Working together and gaining trust

Alexandre Oliva oliva@gnu.org
Thu Feb 19 01:52:51 GMT 2026


On Feb 18, 2026, Joseph Myers <josmyers@redhat.com> wrote:

> The active proposal for glibc is about repository and mailing list 
> hosting

... for now.

I'm sort of relieved that the proposal seems to (accidentally AFAICT)
not get us into any SaaSS scenarios.

But unless involved people take these issues into account, rather than
come across as dismissive and even hostile to these concerns, sooner or
later there will be proposals to bring us into such undesirable
scenarios.

>> It's very concerning that you seem so willing to dismiss a key element
>> of free software philosophy, and so ready to give up our collective
>> freedoms.

> I'm not dismissing it, I'm redirecting the discussions of it to more 
> appropriate locations.

It seems like you're attempting to censor dissent.

If this is the place to discuss proposals of moving important parts of
glibc infrastructure into the hands of third parties, this must also be
the place to discuss how to ensure alignment of such very proposals with
our values.

We can't afford to only discuss the philosophical issues that these
proposals must abide by elsewhere, especially while people in here show
time and again that they're significantly unaware of and unfamiliar with
foundational principles of the movement that incide directly on choices
being proposed and discussed here.

Discussing those values elsewhere will NOT solve this unawareness
problem that's become evident HERE.

If you wish to have such infrastructure proposals brought to the glibc
community and discussed in glibc fora where they belong, arguments both
for and against will be brought to glibc fora.  Neither infrastructure
nor GNU nor glibc are merely technical issues, so the discussion around
them is not to be limited to technical matters.

GNU and glibc's goals are not technical, they're social and political
*through* technical means, so pushing out the social and political
matters would be a severe mistake.

-- 
Alexandre Oliva, happy hacker            https://blog.lx.oliva.nom.br/
Free Software Activist     FSFLA co-founder     GNU Toolchain Engineer
Learn the truth about Richard Stallman at https://stallmansupport.org/


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