Working together and gaining trust

[Joseph Myers]

On Tue, 17 Feb 2026, Alexandre Oliva wrote:

> On Feb 16, 2026, Joseph Myers <josmyers@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > The relevant criteria for GNU package hosting are the GNU ethical 
> > repository criteria
> 
> Focus on hosting of software repositories, that's publishing and
> therefore non-SaaSS.

The active proposal for glibc is about repository and mailing list 
hosting.  This makes all the SaaSS discussion irrelevant to that proposal.  
All CI run in glibc development is particular people choosing to run CI 
for configurations they care about, and is their own computing, not the 
glibc project's computing and not SaaSS (and we don't have any proposal 
for moving such CI).

> > All the other lengthy discussion about SaaSS philosophy in general seems 
> > offtopic for libc-alpha to me
> 
> It's free software philosophy; SaaSS is just one of the means to deny
> users the essential freedoms they deserve and need to control their
> computing.
> 
> It's very concerning that you seem so willing to dismiss a key element
> of free software philosophy, and so ready to give up our collective
> freedoms.

I'm not dismissing it, I'm redirecting the discussions of it to more 
appropriate locations.  The GNU project has different mailing lists for 
discussion of different topics.  gnu-misc-discuss is the GNU project 
location for discussion of philosophical issues, and discussions about the 
development of glibc are offtopic there.  libc-alpha is the GNU project 
location for discussions related to development of glibc, and general 
philosophical discussions are offtopic there.  We don't have active 
proposals for more use of the Sourceware forge for glibc, but for anything 
about the forge in general, it also has its own mailing list, where 
discussions of the forge not relating to more specific uses for a specific 
project would be appropriate.

-- 
Joseph S. Myers
josmyers@redhat.com