Working together and gaining trust

[Joseph Myers]

On Wed, 18 Feb 2026, Alexandre Oliva wrote:

> >> It's very concerning that you seem so willing to dismiss a key element
> >> of free software philosophy, and so ready to give up our collective
> >> freedoms.
> 
> > I'm not dismissing it, I'm redirecting the discussions of it to more 
> > appropriate locations.
> 
> It seems like you're attempting to censor dissent.
> 
> If this is the place to discuss proposals of moving important parts of
> glibc infrastructure into the hands of third parties, this must also be
> the place to discuss how to ensure alignment of such very proposals with
> our values.

But not the place for very abstract discussions in general of how CI 
systems and forges relate to software freedom, divorced from any 
connection to any current glibc proposal.

As noted by someone else: maybe the GNU ethical repository criteria should 
have a companion discussing software freedom considerations for forges.  
But libc-alpha *is not the place to figure out the answers to such 
questions*.  Once they have been figured out *elsewhere*, then they may be 
a useful input to future discussions of such things for glibc.

Of course the people working on such a companion document need to have 
experience of forge-based / pull-request-based development, and of 
development using CI systems that enforce the "not rocket science rule", 
in order to understand the benefits of those things in practice.  Advice 
on how one way of acheiving those benefits is better than another way for 
software freedom can be useful.  Advice without experience of those 
things, or advice that prevents achieving those benefits, isn't.

-- 
Joseph S. Myers
josmyers@redhat.com