Meeting Minutes - Office Hours for CTI - 2026-08-28

[Andrew Pinski]

On Tue, Sep 8, 2026, 2:34 PM Joseph Myers <josmyers@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 8 Sep 2026, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
>
> > Our current voluntary hosting arrangements listen to and participate in
> > the community.  If we want to try something out, they're normally happy
> > to lend us a hand and make it happen.
> >
> > A professional hosting arrangement will involve a professional
> > relationship, in which only designated parties will be able to submit
> > requests in order to have them as much as listened to.
> >
> > This is not AT ALL in the best interest of the community.
>
> As far as possible, configuration changes for production infrastructure
> *should* be slow and carefully considered, rather than just happening
> because one community member thought a change was a good idea and one
> hosting person then implemented it, possibly disrupting things for other
> people, deviating from a previous community consensus or introducing a
> security vulnerability.
>
> The current hosting arrangements also have their own variant of the
> "synchronous meeting" problem - unless you happen to be on #overseers at
> the time a particular change gets suggested, discussed and implemented,
> you never know about the change or have a chance to give input until you
> see it break something.  I think a slower, more formal system can *also*
> have better community input than at present by moving as many discussions
> of hosting changes as possible to libc-alpha - after, of course, there is
> better isolation of infrastructure so it's genuinely possible for glibc to
> decide what's wanted independently of other projects currently hosted on
> the same system.
>

If you include Emergency actions to allow development to continue then I
guess you missed the whole point there.

The isolation will not full prevent what is going on with respect to the AI
scrapper. Nor it will prevent the unsubscripting due to badly configured
email servers.
This is where most of the configuration changes have been recently. If you
think this would be different from LF IT hosting it, in fact it will be
even more secret changes happening.





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> Joseph S. Myers
> josmyers@redhat.com
>
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