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Re: Requesting a cool down period.
- From: Waldemar Brodkorb <wbx at openadk dot org>
- To: Carlos O'Donell <carlos at redhat dot com>
- Cc: Torvald Riegel <triegel at redhat dot com>, Alexandre Oliva <aoliva at redhat dot com>, Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh at gotplt dot org>, Rich Felker <dalias at aerifal dot cx>, Richard Stallman <rms at gnu dot org>, Zack Weinberg <zackw at panix dot com>, Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval dot zanella at linaro dot org>, DJ Delorie <dj at redhat dot com>, Patsy Franklin <pfrankli at redhat dot com>, Rafal Luzynski <digitalfreak at lingonborough dot com>, Paul Eggert <eggert at cs dot ucla dot edu>, Andreas Schwab <schwab at suse dot de>, "Joseph S. Myers" <joseph at codesourcery dot com>, "Dmitry V. Levin" <ldv at altlinux dot org>, Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com>, Mark Wielaard <mjw at redhat dot com>, Javiera Serrano Polo <javier at jasp dot net>, "Federico Leva (Nemo)" <nemowiki at gmail dot com>, Jeff Law <law at redhat dot com>, Mark Brown <ms_brown at sbcglobal dot net>, Jakub Jelinek <jakub at redhat dot com>, "Ryan S. Arnold" <ryan dot arnold at gmail dot com>, Maxim Kuvyrkov <maxim dot kuvyrkov at linaro dot org>, GNU C Library <libc-alpha at sourceware dot org>
- Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 21:15:03 +0200
- Subject: Re: Requesting a cool down period.
- References: <1aa2c730-681c-3c07-7e90-d0f36e294120@redhat.com>
Hi Carlos, Hi all,
Carlos O'Donell wrote,
> As a GNU project maintainer for the GNU C Library, I would like
> to request a cool down period in discussions relating to the
> abort() warning cartouche, the commit to remove it, and the
> reversal. That is to say that within the next 24 hours we stop
> writing and responding in order to cool down.
>
> There are only 7 weeks until the ABI freeze for glibc 2.28,
> only 11 weeks until the release, and we owe our users the best
> release possible.
>
> I suggest that the cool down period on this topic last until
> August 1st, *after* we release glibc 2.28. Yes, this means the
> 2.28 release will include the text in the cartouche, but in this
> community we don't need to rush things, and we follow consensus.
>
> I know that this request may disappoint some of you. We should
> not remove the abort() warning cartouche until we have consensus
> again, and it should be well summarized. This community abides by
> consensus rules, and consensus on this issue may take long enough
> to tally that it may disrupt the release of 2.28, and for the sake
> of our users we should not allow that to happen.
>
> I suggest we all take the next ~11 weeks to cool down, reflect,
> study, consult with others, and come back with ideas related to
> both the abort() warning cartouche and project governance.
>
> Please lend me your support by abiding by a cooling down period,
> and preparing for a proper discussion after the cool down.
>
> Please also lend me your support in making 2.28 the best glibc
> release possible.
That is a really good idea and I sent over 3 euro/dollar to every
libc developer/maintainer (including RMS and Rich Felker, just to be
fair) involved in this discussion via Paypal so that you get an ice
cream, chill in the sun and cool down!
Sunshine,
Waldemar, just a user and regular consumer of GNU C Library code...
P.s.: just sent me a personal mail to wbx@openadk.org if you want to
get your ice cream.