From sebastien.cleyet-merle@st.com  Tue Oct  2 06:33:00 2001
From: sebastien.cleyet-merle@st.com (Sebastien Cleyet-Merle)
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 06:33:00 -0000
Subject: Query on project database
References: <C153E5BBF1DBC945BDD2F74BAE053F260FB15B@phoenix.spmtechnologies.com> <002901c167ab$fa8b5b70$36850a0a@west.unispherenetworks.>
Message-ID: <3BEF8614.19009B0F@st.com>

Hi,

I want to interface one of my tcl interface to the sn database. What I need is
to query the project database to get the project root directory.
for exam ple with the file tree

/home/toto/myproject/
                                bin/myproject.proj  <- snavigator project
                                src/*.c                   <-source of my
project
                                include/*.h             <-|

I need to get the path "home/toto/myproject" wich is not the root dir of
"/home/toto/myproject/bin/myproject.proj"

How can I do this ? I need to do this through a "tk send" command.

Thanks in advance for your answers.
Sebastien.

From jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au  Thu Oct  4 01:28:00 2001
From: jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au (Jordan)
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 01:28:00 -0000
Subject: At hair pulling stage
Message-ID: <15345.49777.840935.778549@pride.nsw.cmis.CSIRO.AU>


+ SN 5.0 Windows binaries running on Win2000
+ CYGWIN internet download last night


SNav cannot find "rm", "g++" or any other cygwin based program. It can
only find "make". I am assuming that SNav has its own version of make
and so doesn't need to go looking for it.

/usr/bin is in both my cygwin and windows path, ie. "which rm" yields
"/usr/bin/rm".

What gives? I thought that SNav would drive of at least one of these
paths.  Please help me identify the fix for this error as premature
balding is supposed to be a gift from nature not RH.

Regards,

J.


P.S. Please Cc: me directly in the reply as I have not subscribed to
the list, yet!


-- 
Jordan Howarth				mailto:jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au
CSIRO					p: (07) 3375 9632, (07) 3826 7314
Mathematical and Information Sciences	f: (07) 3826 7304

         -=| For every truth there are a thousand lies |=-


From khamis2@t-online.de  Thu Oct  4 09:47:00 2001
From: khamis2@t-online.de (Khamis Abuelkomboz)
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 09:47:00 -0000
Subject: At hair pulling stage
References: <15345.49777.840935.778549@pride.nsw.cmis.CSIRO.AU>
Message-ID: <3BF262C2.706@t-online.de>

If you are trying to build SN on Win2000, You need first to have 
installed MSVC++,
make sure that cl.exe is in your path and some other environments of 
VC++ are set
correct.
Then in your bash shell set the enviroment:
set CC=cl
configure --prefix=<Your destination for SN>
make

Jordan wrote:

>+ SN 5.0 Windows binaries running on Win2000
>+ CYGWIN internet download last night
>
>
>SNav cannot find "rm", "g++" or any other cygwin based program. It can
>only find "make". I am assuming that SNav has its own version of make
>and so doesn't need to go looking for it.
>
>/usr/bin is in both my cygwin and windows path, ie. "which rm" yields
>"/usr/bin/rm".
>
>What gives? I thought that SNav would drive of at least one of these
>paths.  Please help me identify the fix for this error as premature
>balding is supposed to be a gift from nature not RH.
>
>Regards,
>
>J.
>
>
>P.S. Please Cc: me directly in the reply as I have not subscribed to
>the list, yet!
>
>



From Dautrevaux@microprocess.com  Tue Oct 16 19:42:00 2001
From: Dautrevaux@microprocess.com (Bernard Dautrevaux)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 19:42:00 -0000
Subject: At hair pulling stage
Message-ID: <17B78BDF120BD411B70100500422FC6309E3A3@IIS000>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jordan [mailto:jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:35 AM
> To: sourcenav@sources.redhat.com
> Subject: At hair pulling stage
> 
> 
> 
> + SN 5.0 Windows binaries running on Win2000
> + CYGWIN internet download last night
> 
> 
> SNav cannot find "rm", "g++" or any other cygwin based program. It can
> only find "make". I am assuming that SNav has its own version of make
> and so doesn't need to go looking for it.

I don't know if SN was compiled for CYGWIN, or as a native WIN32 program
(tip: look at the DLLs needed by SN; if you don't find cygwin1.dll then SN
is a pure WIN32 program).

If SN is a pure WIN32 program then he will not be able to find /usr/bin/rm,
as this file, when viewed from Windows, is "C:\cygwin\usr\bin\rm", assuming
you installed cygwin in "C:\cygwin" as the installer propose it.

You must then put "C:\cygwin\usr\bin" in your Windows path, so that SN will
be able to find the cygwin tools.

HTH

	Bernard

PS: Note that with old versions of Cygwin (back to the B20 era), this was
not a problem as cygwin installed in the C: root directory by default; you
also can install newer cygwins there, although you get bored by the
installer that will insist that this is "not recommended", while I never
understand what the problem may be (and I'm using it installed there without
any problem for quite a long time).

> 
> /usr/bin is in both my cygwin and windows path, ie. "which rm" yields
> "/usr/bin/rm".
> 
> What gives? I thought that SNav would drive of at least one of these
> paths.  Please help me identify the fix for this error as premature
> balding is supposed to be a gift from nature not RH.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> J.
> 
> 
> P.S. Please Cc: me directly in the reply as I have not subscribed to
> the list, yet!
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jordan Howarth				
mailto:jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au
CSIRO					p: (07) 3375 9632, (07) 3826 7314
Mathematical and Information Sciences	f: (07) 3826 7304

         -=| For every truth there are a thousand lies |=-


--------------------------------------------
Bernard Dautrevaux
Microprocess Ingenierie
97 bis, rue de Colombes
92400 COURBEVOIE
FRANCE
Tel:	+33 (0) 1 47 68 80 80
Fax:	+33 (0) 1 47 88 97 85
e-mail:	dautrevaux@microprocess.com
		b.dautrevaux@usa.net
-------------------------------------------- 


From spolk@baritoneconsulting.com  Tue Oct 16 20:20:00 2001
From: spolk@baritoneconsulting.com (Syd Polk)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:20:00 -0000
Subject: At hair pulling stage
In-Reply-To: <17B78BDF120BD411B70100500422FC6309E3A3@IIS000>
Message-ID: <8092E564-D930-11D5-B62D-0050E4C09301@baritoneconsulting.com>


On Wednesday, November 14, 2001, at 06:11 , Bernard Dautrevaux wrote:

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jordan [mailto:jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:35 AM
>> To: sourcenav@sources.redhat.com
>> Subject: At hair pulling stage
>>
>>
>>
>> + SN 5.0 Windows binaries running on Win2000
>> + CYGWIN internet download last night
>>
>>
>> SNav cannot find "rm", "g++" or any other cygwin based program. It can
>> only find "make". I am assuming that SNav has its own version of make
>> and so doesn't need to go looking for it.
>
> I don't know if SN was compiled for CYGWIN, or as a native WIN32 program
> (tip: look at the DLLs needed by SN; if you don't find cygwin1.dll then 
> SN
> is a pure WIN32 program).
>
> If SN is a pure WIN32 program then he will not be able to find 
> /usr/bin/rm,
> as this file, when viewed from Windows, is "C:\cygwin\usr\bin\rm", 
> assuming
> you installed cygwin in "C:\cygwin" as the installer propose it.

SN is a pure Win 32 program.

>
> You must then put "C:\cygwin\usr\bin" in your Windows path, so that SN 
> will
> be able to find the cygwin tools.
>

This is the correct diagnosis. The path must have Windows pathnames in 
it for SN to work.

> HTH
>
> 	Bernard
>
> PS: Note that with old versions of Cygwin (back to the B20 era), this 
> was
> not a problem as cygwin installed in the C: root directory by default; 
> you
> also can install newer cygwins there, although you get bored by the
> installer that will insist that this is "not recommended", while I never
> understand what the problem may be (and I'm using it installed there 
> without
> any problem for quite a long time).
>
>>
>> /usr/bin is in both my cygwin and windows path, ie. "which rm" yields
>> "/usr/bin/rm".
>>
>> What gives? I thought that SNav would drive of at least one of these
>> paths.  Please help me identify the fix for this error as premature
>> balding is supposed to be a gift from nature not RH.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> J.
>>
>>
>> P.S. Please Cc: me directly in the reply as I have not subscribed to
>> the list, yet!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jordan Howarth				
> mailto:jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au
> CSIRO					p: (07) 3375 9632, (07) 3826 7314
> Mathematical and Information Sciences	f: (07) 3826 7304
>
>          -=| For every truth there are a thousand lies |=-
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> Bernard Dautrevaux
> Microprocess Ingenierie
> 97 bis, rue de Colombes
> 92400 COURBEVOIE
> FRANCE
> Tel:	+33 (0) 1 47 68 80 80
> Fax:	+33 (0) 1 47 88 97 85
> e-mail:	dautrevaux@microprocess.com
> 		b.dautrevaux@usa.net
> --------------------------------------------
>
>
Syd Polk
QA and Integration Manager, Mac OSX Development Tools
+1 408 974-0577


From jason@axiscorp.com  Wed Oct 17 02:39:00 2001
From: jason@axiscorp.com (Jason Andrews)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 02:39:00 -0000
Subject: direct access to diff
Message-ID: <NFBBJDKPGFMOMPJADCGAIEFHHHAA.jason@axiscorp.com>

Hi,

I use the diff view under the Tools->Revision Control->Compare Revisions
menu, but I am wondering if there is way to access it directly
to diff 2 files.

Thanks,
Jason


From jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au  Wed Oct 17 03:37:00 2001
From: jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au (Jordan)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 03:37:00 -0000
Subject: Cannot build project with windows binary
Message-ID: <15355.20919.39040.782297@pride.nsw.cmis.CSIRO.AU>


Hi,

This is another request for assistance regarding my attempts to build
some simple projects inside the windows release of SN 5.0.

Thanks to Syd, Bernard and Khamis for their comments so
far. Unfortunately, no dice.


My setup:

Windows 2000
Cygwin is located at C:\cygwin
SourceNavigator is located at C:\SourceNavigator

C:\> PATH includes C:\SourceNavigator\H-i686-pc-cygwin\bin;C:\cygwin;C:\cygwin\bin;


I can build the "projects" from the command line in both a Windows
Command prompt window and from a cygwin bash shell proving that in
both cases, gcc is in the search path.


Results from SN:

Clean build of room.proj

rm -f *.o
rm -f libclassroom.a
make: rm: Command not found
make: *** [clean] Error 127
+++ End +++


Build of head.proj

g++ -c main.cpp   
make: g++: Command not found
make: *** [main.o] Error 127
+++ End +++


I can set up these projects in version of SourceNavigator I built from
source on my linux box and the projects build and run OK, proving that
it is not my project build setup inside SN that is the problem.  The
confusing issue in all this is that "make" can be called by SN even
though it exists in the same directory as g++, rm, etc.

So either my Cygwin/Sn setup is skewif on the windows side or the
windows binary hasn't been built properly as it can't locate the tools
with which to build the projects.

I would ideally like somebody to do a fresh install of the SN 5.0
binary to identify if my experience is actually a bug.
 
Any inspiration divine or otherwise gratefully accepted.

J.

P.S. As before please Cc me directly when replying to the list, thanks.


From jazzman@bayarea.net  Wed Oct 17 10:16:00 2001
From: jazzman@bayarea.net (Syd Polk)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:16:00 -0000
Subject: Cannot build project with windows binary
In-Reply-To: <15355.20919.39040.782297@pride.nsw.cmis.CSIRO.AU>
Message-ID: <D24BE932-DEAE-11D5-B5EC-0050E4C09301@bayarea.net>


On Wednesday, November 21, 2001, at 12:56 , Jordan wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> This is another request for assistance regarding my attempts to build
> some simple projects inside the windows release of SN 5.0.
>
> Thanks to Syd, Bernard and Khamis for their comments so
> far. Unfortunately, no dice.
>
>
> My setup:
>
> Windows 2000
> Cygwin is located at C:\cygwin
> SourceNavigator is located at C:\SourceNavigator
>
> C:\> PATH includes C:\SourceNavigator\H-i686-pc-
> cygwin\bin;C:\cygwin;C:\cygwin\bin;

Get rid of the semi-colons in the path.

>
>
> I can build the "projects" from the command line in both a Windows
> Command prompt window and from a cygwin bash shell proving that in
> both cases, gcc is in the search path.
>
>
> Results from SN:
>
> Clean build of room.proj
>
> rm -f *.o
> rm -f libclassroom.a
> make: rm: Command not found
> make: *** [clean] Error 127
> +++ End +++
>
>
> Build of head.proj
>
> g++ -c main.cpp
> make: g++: Command not found
> make: *** [main.o] Error 127
> +++ End +++
>
>
> I can set up these projects in version of SourceNavigator I built from
> source on my linux box and the projects build and run OK, proving that
> it is not my project build setup inside SN that is the problem.  The
> confusing issue in all this is that "make" can be called by SN even
> though it exists in the same directory as g++, rm, etc.
>
> So either my Cygwin/Sn setup is skewif on the windows side or the
> windows binary hasn't been built properly as it can't locate the tools
> with which to build the projects.
>
> I would ideally like somebody to do a fresh install of the SN 5.0
> binary to identify if my experience is actually a bug.
>
> Any inspiration divine or otherwise gratefully accepted.
>
> J.
>
> P.S. As before please Cc me directly when replying to the list, thanks.
>
>
Syd Polk
QA and Integration Manager, Mac OSX Development Tools
+1 408 974-0577


From irox@redhat.com  Wed Oct 17 11:42:00 2001
From: irox@redhat.com (Ian Roxborough)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:42:00 -0000
Subject: Cannot build project with windows binary
References: <15355.20919.39040.782297@pride.nsw.cmis.CSIRO.AU>
Message-ID: <3BFC947F.B82CFDA7@redhat.com>

Jordan wrote:
>
> I can set up these projects in version of SourceNavigator I built from
> source on my linux box and the projects build and run OK, proving that
> it is not my project build setup inside SN that is the problem.  The
> confusing issue in all this is that "make" can be called by SN even
> though it exists in the same directory as g++, rm, etc.

Are you sure that you are running the correct make?
(i.e. you might not be running the same one that is in the
directory with g++, rm, etc.)

could you be running microsoft's version of make?

Make sure the the cygwin stuff is at the start of your path
(or before the MS make.exe).  You should be able to run bash
from you MS-Dos command prompt.

Ian.


From Salim_Belgroune-BSB010@email.mot.com  Wed Oct 17 12:09:00 2001
From: Salim_Belgroune-BSB010@email.mot.com (Salim Belgroune)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:09:00 -0000
Subject: SN 5.0 binary distributions
Message-ID: <3BFCB055.1371CDE5@crm.mot.com>

Hello,

In the mirror download sites, I idid not found a SN 5.0 binary
distributions.

Could please tell me where can i find it ?

Kind regards.

Salim.


From Salim_Belgroune-BSB010@email.mot.com  Fri Oct 19 13:19:00 2001
From: Salim_Belgroune-BSB010@email.mot.com (Salim Belgroune)
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:19:00 -0000
Subject: Automatic indent
Message-ID: <3BFCD7CC.D41EB649@crm.mot.com>

Hello,

I would like to know if SN file editor offer the " Automatic indent "
feature ?

This feature allows the editor to automatically insert indents in each
new line depending on the current C code block hierarchy context.

This feature is very useful ( when the code contain nested block )  and
produce a more readable code.

Kind regards.

Salim



From emthornber@iee.org  Mon Oct 22 23:33:00 2001
From: emthornber@iee.org (Mark Thornber)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 23:33:00 -0000
Subject: Automatic indent
References: <3BFCD7CC.D41EB649@crm.mot.com>
Message-ID: <3BFCDE37.3070106@iee.org>

Salim,

No - its not automatic on keyword but it does indent to the previous line.

There are the keyboard commands CTRL+> and CTRL+< to indent and outdent 
current line or selected text.

HTH
-- 
MarkT

Salim Belgroune wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I would like to know if SN file editor offer the " Automatic indent "
> feature ?
> 
> This feature allows the editor to automatically insert indents in each
> new line depending on the current C code block hierarchy context.
> 
> This feature is very useful ( when the code contain nested block )  and
> produce a more readable code.
> 
> Kind regards.
> 
> Salim
> 
> 
> 
> 



From irox@redhat.com  Tue Oct 23 06:16:00 2001
From: irox@redhat.com (Ian Roxborough)
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 06:16:00 -0000
Subject: SN 5.0 binary distributions
References: <3BFCB055.1371CDE5@crm.mot.com>
Message-ID: <3BFD2CAA.29DE8D2@redhat.com>

Salim Belgroune wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> In the mirror download sites, I idid not found a SN 5.0 binary
> distributions.
> 
> Could please tell me where can i find it ?

Hi,

I picked some random mirrors are had no problem finding
binaries:

http://mirrors.rcn.com/pub/sourceware/sourcenav/releases/binaries/
http://planetmirror.com/pub/sourceware/sourcenav/releases/binaries/

Maybe you've missed some information out, like the platform
you use. (Note that the Windows binaries don't work on HPUX.)
If you are looking for a linux binary, sorry you have to
build it from source.

Ian


From irox@redhat.com  Tue Oct 30 14:42:00 2001
From: irox@redhat.com (Ian Roxborough)
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:42:00 -0000
Subject: SN 5.0 binary distributions
References: <3BFCB055.1371CDE5@crm.mot.com> <3BFD2CAA.29DE8D2@redhat.com> <3BFD1FE1.79D83EF7@crm.mot.com>
Message-ID: <3BFD3461.53F9699C@redhat.com>

Salim Belgroune wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thank you for your reply.
> 
> I've already found archives (*.zip) containing these binaries. But the
> archive does not contain a single installation file as for SN 4.5.2 that
> have a single setup file (SN452Windows.exe).
>
> May I have to uncompress the archive to : " C:\Program Files " and run "
> C:\Program Files\H-i686-pc-cygwin\bin\snavigator.exe " ?

I would avoid using a path name with spaces in it.
But otherwise, yes, you seem have the right idea.
Just unzip the zip file and run snavigator.exe file.

Ian.


From Stephane.Roy@motorola.com  Fri Nov  2 18:18:00 2001
From: Stephane.Roy@motorola.com (Roy Stephane-Y17548)
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 18:18:00 -0000
Subject: Port of Source Navigator to Windows XP?
Message-ID: <8DED8928257DD511B90F0008C7C5A4D034066E@QUB10EXM01.corp.mot.com>

Hi,

Is there any plan to port Source Navigator to Windows XP. Right now, 5.0 has some problem on Windows XP.

Thanks and regards

Stephane


From irox@redhat.com  Mon Nov  5 01:20:00 2001
From: irox@redhat.com (Ian Roxborough)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 01:20:00 -0000
Subject: Port of Source Navigator to Windows XP?
References: <8DED8928257DD511B90F0008C7C5A4D034066E@QUB10EXM01.corp.mot.com>
Message-ID: <3BFEAACA.93726963@redhat.com>


Hi,

The short answer is probably no.

The long answer involves either me finding
a Windows XP machine and a bunch of time to
do the port  OR finding somebody who wants
to port/maintain the Windows/Windows XP version.

Ian.
P.S.:  What are the problems you are having?

Roy Stephane-Y17548 wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is there any plan to port Source Navigator to Windows XP. Right now, 5.0 has some problem on Windows XP.
> 
> Thanks and regards
> 
> Stephane


From pdatta@earthlink.net  Mon Nov  5 08:31:00 2001
From: pdatta@earthlink.net (Pankaj Datta)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 08:31:00 -0000
Subject: Cannot build project with windows binary 
Message-ID: <004501c1746d$41a871a0$9b62f5d1@pancake>

Jordan, Syd, Ian, and others,
    I have run into the same problem that you are discussing in this =
thread.

>> C:\> PATH includes C:\SourceNavigator\H-i686-pc-
>> cygwin\bin;C:\cygwin;C:\cygwin\bin;

> Get rid of the semi-colons in the path.

I do not see how one could get rid of the semi-colons in a Windows/DOS =
path.  Syd could you explain?

>> confusing issue in all this is that "make" can be called by SN even
>> though it exists in the same directory as g++, rm, etc.

>Are you sure that you are running the correct make?
>(i.e. you might not be running the same one that is in the
> directory with g++, rm, etc.)

Ian, I do not see how one could choose which version of make they run, =
since if you use the default option (make) as the SN build command in =
the SN build dialog box,  SN seems to be using its own version of make.

Until someone corrects this problem here's a workaround.  Thought I'd =
share it with you and others who may be in the same situation.=20
My setup is:
    -- Windows 98 + SN5.0 + CYGWIN.
    -- SN is installed in C:\sn
    -- cygwin is installed in C:\cygwin
    -- Windows PATH var is set to =
C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM;C:\CYGWIN\BIN in autoexec.bat

1) Create a batch file, say C:\snmake.bat with the following:

    PATH
    set =
PATH=3DC:\sn\H-i686-pc-cygwin\bin;c:\windows;c:\windows\command;c:\window=
s\system;c:\cygwin\bin
    make %1 %2 %3 %4 %5



2) Use C:\snmake as your "Build command" in the SN build dialog box=20
   =20

The PATH command in the first line of the batch file allows you to =
display the kind of path SN  sees.   Incidentally, on my machine  doing =
2) causes the following output when PATH is executed:

PATH=3DC:/SN/H-I686-PC-CYGWIN/bin:C:/SN/H-I686-PC-CYGWIN/bin:C:\WINDOWS;C=
:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM;C:\CYGWIN\BIN

As you can see from the above, SN seems to be using Unix style path spec =
for its own sub-path and appending it to the Windows path.  If you had =
the same path specification as above in a DOS comand shell, you would =
have no problem accessing rm , g++, or any other cygwin commands.   =
However, I think SN does some kind of parsing on the PATH and looses it! =
 Something for SN gurus to figure out.

The workaround I suggested above has a side-effect:  after the build is =
complete, you will have to press the  "Stop" button before you can do =
another build.


Hope this helps,

Pankaj


From pdatta@earthlink.net  Mon Nov  5 08:50:00 2001
From: pdatta@earthlink.net (Pankaj Datta)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 08:50:00 -0000
Subject: Correction Re: Cannot build project with windows binary 
Message-ID: <005f01c1746e$ba609180$9b62f5d1@pancake>

Sorry, my last msg got garbled.  Here's the correct version


------------------------------------------

Jordan, Syd, Ian, and others,
    I have run into the same problem that you are discussing in this thread.

>> C:\> PATH includes C:\SourceNavigator\H-i686-pc-
>> cygwin\bin;C:\cygwin;C:\cygwin\bin;

> Get rid of the semi-colons in the path.

I do not see how one could get rid of the semi-colons in a Windows/DOS path.
Syd could you explain?

>> confusing issue in all this is that "make" can be called by SN even
>> though it exists in the same directory as g++, rm, etc.

>Are you sure that you are running the correct make?
>(i.e. you might not be running the same one that is in the
> directory with g++, rm, etc.)

Ian, I do not see how one could choose which version of make they run, since
if you use the default option (make) as the SN build command in the SN build
dialog box,  SN seems to be using its own version of make.

Until someone corrects this problem here's a workaround.  Thought I'd share
it with you and others who may be in the same situation.
My setup is:
    -- Windows 98 + SN5.0 + CYGWIN.
    -- SN is installed in C:\sn
    -- cygwin is installed in C:\cygwin
    -- Windows PATH var is set to C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM;C:\CYGWIN\BIN
in autoexec.bat

1) Create a batch file, say C:\snmake.bat with the following:

    PATH
    set
PATH=C:\sn\H-i686-pc-cygwin\bin;c:\windows;c:\windows\command;c:\windows\sys
tem;c:\cygwin\bin
    make %1 %2 %3 %4 %5



2) Use C:\snmake as your "Build command" in the SN build dialog box


The PATH command in the first line of the batch file allows you to display
the kind of path SN  sees.   Incidentally, on my machine  doing 2) causes
the following output when PATH is executed:

PATH=C:/SN/H-I686-PC-CYGWIN/bin:C:/SN/H-I686-PC-CYGWIN/bin:C:\WINDOWS;C:\WIN
DOWS\SYSTEM;C:\CYGWIN\BIN

As you can see from the above, SN seems to be using Unix style path spec for
its own sub-path and appending it to the Windows path.  If you had the same
path specification as above in a DOS comand shell, you would have no problem
accessing rm , g++, or any other cygwin commands.   However, I think SN does
some kind of parsing on the PATH and looses it!  Something for SN gurus to
figure out.

The workaround I suggested above has a side-effect:  after the build is
complete, you will have to press the  "Stop" button before you can do
another build.


Hope this helps,

Pankaj


From William.Gacquer@laposte.net  Mon Nov  5 14:02:00 2001
From: William.Gacquer@laposte.net (William Gacquer)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 14:02:00 -0000
Subject: Port of Source Navigator to Windows XP?
References: <8DED8928257DD511B90F0008C7C5A4D034066E@QUB10EXM01.corp.mot.com> <3BFEAACA.93726963@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3C001842.6010309@laposte.net>

Is the answer a no to the WindowsXP port or is this a no to the future 
Source Navigator developments?

Regards,
William

Ian Roxborough wrote:

>Hi,
>
>The short answer is probably no.
>
>The long answer involves either me finding
>a Windows XP machine and a bunch of time to
>do the port  OR finding somebody who wants
>to port/maintain the Windows/Windows XP version.
>
>Ian.
>P.S.:  What are the problems you are having?
>
>Roy Stephane-Y17548 wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Is there any plan to port Source Navigator to Windows XP. Right now, 5.0 has some problem on Windows XP.
>>
>>Thanks and regards
>>
>>Stephane
>>
>



From irox@redhat.com  Mon Nov  5 14:04:00 2001
From: irox@redhat.com (Ian Roxborough)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 14:04:00 -0000
Subject: Port of Source Navigator to Windows XP?
References: <8DED8928257DD511B90F0008C7C5A4D034066E@QUB10EXM01.corp.mot.com> <3BFEAACA.93726963@redhat.com> <3C001842.6010309@laposte.net>
Message-ID: <3C0032A9.6EC96EDF@redhat.com>


That would be "no" to:
"Is there any plan to port Source Navigator to Windows XP."

It doesn't mean that it's not going to happen.
It doesn't mean no future Source Navigator development.

Ian. 

William Gacquer wrote:
> 
> Is the answer a no to the WindowsXP port or is this a no to the future
> Source Navigator developments?
> 
> Regards,
> William
> 
> Ian Roxborough wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >The short answer is probably no.
> >
> >The long answer involves either me finding
> >a Windows XP machine and a bunch of time to
> >do the port  OR finding somebody who wants
> >to port/maintain the Windows/Windows XP version.
> >
> >Ian.
> >P.S.:  What are the problems you are having?
> >
> >Roy Stephane-Y17548 wrote:
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>Is there any plan to port Source Navigator to Windows XP. Right now, 5.0 has some problem on Windows XP.
> >>
> >>Thanks and regards
> >>
> >>Stephane
> >>
> >


From jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au  Mon Nov  5 14:11:00 2001
From: jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au (Jordan)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 14:11:00 -0000
Subject: SN PATH on windows was Re: Cannot build project with windows binary
Message-ID: <15361.42465.755786.118750@pride.nsw.cmis.CSIRO.AU>

Pankaj,

The "parsing" you mentioned may have to do with the fact that SN
ignores the backslashes in the windows path as per UNIX. Try typing
the full path to gcc in the SN build settings, ie.

C:\cygwin\bin\gcc

Of course the backslashes are ignored since here they actually mean \c
\b and \g and consequently the command for gcc is reduced to
C:cygwinbingcc. 

So if you retype the command to be C:\\cygwin\\bin\\gcc it is parsed
correctly.

Congratulations on the observation!!


So can one of the gurus suggest when this cross platform issue can be
addressed. More to the point, why has this not been raised before???

Regards,

J.

 

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From jazzman@bayarea.net  Mon Nov  5 14:25:00 2001
From: jazzman@bayarea.net (Syd Polk)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 14:25:00 -0000
Subject: Cannot build project with windows binary 
Message-ID: <200111260823.AAA79854@postman.bayarea.net>

Pankaj Datta wrote:

>Jordan, Syd, Ian, and others,
>    I have run into the same problem that you are discussing in this =
>thread.
>
>>> C:\> PATH includes C:\SourceNavigator\H-i686-pc-
>>> cygwin\bin;C:\cygwin;C:\cygwin\bin;
>
>> Get rid of the semi-colons in the path.
>
>I do not see how one could get rid of the semi-colons in a Windows/DOS =
>path.  Syd could you explain?

A simple mistake, that is all.


Syd Polk
jazzman@bayarea.net                 http://www.bayarea.net/~jazzman
"Let the music be your light." -- Dave Edwards, KUHF-FM, 1982


From Salim_Belgroune-BSB010@email.mot.com  Tue Nov  6 05:07:00 2001
From: Salim_Belgroune-BSB010@email.mot.com (Salim Belgroune)
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 05:07:00 -0000
Subject: cursor
Message-ID: <3C034F4C.73122D75@crm.mot.com>

Hello,

I would like to know how to change the cursor colour on Source Navigator
4.5.2 Editor.
Many thanks.

Salim


From shimizu@logirix.com  Wed Nov  7 06:00:00 2001
From: shimizu@logirix.com (Hanako Shimizu)
Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 06:00:00 -0000
Subject: how to add the extended keyword of c++builder
Message-ID: <002301c177a9$658c5ac0$4d01a8c0@Shimizu>

Dear all,
I am using c++builder 5.
Please teach me how to add the extended keyword of c++builder.

 example>

  Since "__published:" is not the keyword of c++ now,
  "viw" is not recognized and the SN's crossing reference function cannot be
used.

  class TClass : public TForm
  {
    __published:
      TView*    viw;
      TStatusr* sts;
      TImage*   img;

    public:
              ?
              ?
    protected:
              ?
              ?

I am using the newest cygwin on Windows 2000.
Source-Navigator's version is 5.0.0.

Best Regards
Hanako Shimizu


From irox@redhat.com  Wed Nov  7 08:48:00 2001
From: irox@redhat.com (Ian Roxborough)
Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 08:48:00 -0000
Subject: [Fwd: failure notice]
References: <3C04495B.96EBA7E8@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <3C045800.6C650541@redhat.com>

Bruce Korb wrote:
> 
> Hi Ian,
> 
> That horrid little "ORBZ" disservice has me blocked again.
> pbi.net has a mail server accepting mail from a mail server
> that accepts mail from an open server, so mine is blocked.
> There are many ways far better than this to filter spam.

Bummer.  But not a lot I can do to correct that, sorry.

> > Subject: How does one add a build rule?
> > To: sourcenav@sourceware.cygnus.com
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > The "build rule" tab on the window that pops up
> > from the edit button of the "build settings" window.
> > (This window has no title, so it is hard to name.)
> >
> > Anyway, I seem to be constrained to a half dozen
> > build tools (compilers and linker).  THere is no
> > obvious mechanism for adding more, even from searching
> > the programmer and user guide indexes.  Such is
> > needed.  How?  Thanks! - Bruce

They are two ways:

Either add a "quick rule", there is an example of
this for lex and yacc.  Look for sn_add_simple_ide_rule
in sn_prop.cfg.in (or sn_prop.cfg if it's installed).

If you are needing something more complex then
you might want to add a "tool chain".  Your best
source of information is to look at the source
code in the "gui" sub directory.  The file is
called toolchain.tcl.  Toolchains are defined
by using the class in toolchain.tcl.

You can find an example of how to define a toolchain
in snavigator/etc/sn_toolchains/gnu-pro-native.

Hope this is of use to you.

 Ian.


From tromey@redhat.com  Thu Nov  8 03:58:00 2001
From: tromey@redhat.com (Tom Tromey)
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 03:58:00 -0000
Subject: [Fwd: failure notice]
In-Reply-To: Ian Roxborough's message of "Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:20:32 -0800"
References: <3C04495B.96EBA7E8@pacbell.net> <3C045800.6C650541@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <873d2ztvb4.fsf@creche.redhat.com>

>>>>> "Ian" == Ian Roxborough <irox@redhat.com> writes:

>> That horrid little "ORBZ" disservice has me blocked again.
>> pbi.net has a mail server accepting mail from a mail server
>> that accepts mail from an open server, so mine is blocked.
>> There are many ways far better than this to filter spam.

Ian> Bummer.  But not a lot I can do to correct that, sorry.

In theory anybody subscribed to a list can post to it, regardless of
what the spam blockers say.  Also, I believe there is a way to
subscribe to a list as "post only" -- i.e., you don't get mail.
We can also whitelist specific individuals.

Tom


From jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au  Mon Nov 12 01:34:00 2001
From: jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au (Jordan)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 01:34:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin GNU tools v's GNUPro native tools
Message-ID: <15366.52385.212640.29419@pride.nsw.cmis.CSIRO.AU>


Hi all,

What is meant by GNUPro (native) in the toolchain options of the build 
setting window?? Does this mean that you cannot use the GNU tools
supplied in the Cygwin distribution with SN but instead need to
purchase the GNUPro toolkit native for windows?

I can understand this from a marketing exercise but logically how can
this be? If SN goes looking for gcc via the PATH variable in windows
the same way it does under Linux, why would it not be satisfied with
C:\cygwin\bin\gcc?

Confused as ever?

J.


From spolk@baritoneconsulting.com  Tue Nov 13 17:35:00 2001
From: spolk@baritoneconsulting.com (Syd Polk)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:35:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin GNU tools v's GNUPro native tools
Message-ID: <200111300745.XAA23611@postman.bayarea.net>

Jordan wrote:

>
>Hi all,
>
>What is meant by GNUPro (native) in the toolchain options of the build 
>setting window?? Does this mean that you cannot use the GNU tools
>supplied in the Cygwin distribution with SN but instead need to
>purchase the GNUPro toolkit native for windows?
>
>I can understand this from a marketing exercise but logically how can
>this be? If SN goes looking for gcc via the PATH variable in windows
>the same way it does under Linux, why would it not be satisfied with
>C:\cygwin\bin\gcc?
>
>Confused as ever?
>
>J.

There is no difference. The only thing is that some versions of gdb don't 
support the command line option that SN needs to run (--external-editor), 
whereas the GnuPro version does.


From jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au  Wed Nov 14 04:22:00 2001
From: jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au (Jordan)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 04:22:00 -0000
Subject: inter project dependencies
Message-ID: <15370.61597.283214.289496@pride.nsw.cmis.CSIRO.AU>


Hi ya,

How do I make one project dependent on another?

Specifically if I create a library in one project (libproj) and an
executable in another (exeproj) that links to it, how do I make sure
that the resulting makefile checks for out of date files in libproj,
compiles them and rebuilds the library before the executable in
exeproj links to it.

Is this achieved, merely by adding the libproj project to the exeproj
project in the project editor of the latter or is this achieved in the 
build settings by adding libproj.a to the list of libraries?

Regards,

J.



 

-- 
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CSIRO					p: (07) 3375 9632, (07) 3826 7314
Mathematical and Information Sciences	f: (07) 3826 7304

         -=| For every truth there are a thousand lies |=-


From irox@redhat.com  Wed Nov 14 06:17:00 2001
From: irox@redhat.com (Ian Roxborough)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 06:17:00 -0000
Subject: inter project dependencies
References: <15370.61597.283214.289496@pride.nsw.cmis.CSIRO.AU>
Message-ID: <3C0B4D4D.73580696@redhat.com>

Jordan wrote:
> 
> Hi ya,
> 
> How do I make one project dependent on another?

Unfortunately, there isn't a way to do this.

Ian.

> Specifically if I create a library in one project (libproj) and an
> executable in another (exeproj) that links to it, how do I make sure
> that the resulting makefile checks for out of date files in libproj,
> compiles them and rebuilds the library before the executable in
> exeproj links to it.
> 
> Is this achieved, merely by adding the libproj project to the exeproj
> project in the project editor of the latter or is this achieved in the
> build settings by adding libproj.a to the list of libraries?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> J.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Jordan Howarth                          mailto:jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au
> CSIRO                                   p: (07) 3375 9632, (07) 3826 7314
> Mathematical and Information Sciences   f: (07) 3826 7304
> 
>          -=| For every truth there are a thousand lies |=-


From jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au  Wed Nov 14 10:50:00 2001
From: jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au (Jordan)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 10:50:00 -0000
Subject: inter project dependencies
In-Reply-To: <3C0B4D4D.73580696@redhat.com>
References: <15370.61597.283214.289496@pride.nsw.cmis.CSIRO.AU>
	<3C0B4D4D.73580696@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <15371.24288.391895.156707@pride.nsw.cmis.CSIRO.AU>


    >> How do I make one project dependent on another?

    Ian> Unfortunately, there isn't a way to do this.

Alas I fear I have spent too long on the dark side :( In MSVC, the
term for the scope of an entire software build is a workspace which
consists of individual projects. So some projects can be libraries and
one can be the responsible for linking these in order to produce the
final executable (apologies for lessons in egg sucking). Mapping this
to SN and you have one project specifying the scope for multiple
targets, no? To me, this reflects a conventional makefile.

Assuming that this is correct, let me rephrase my earlier
question. How do I make one target depend on another in SN?

Thanks,

J.

-- 
Jordan Howarth				mailto:jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au
CSIRO					p: (07) 3375 9632, (07) 3826 7314
Mathematical and Information Sciences	f: (07) 3826 7304

         -=| For every truth there are a thousand lies |=-


From Mike_D_Davies@fmo.com  Fri Nov 16 12:28:00 2001
From: Mike_D_Davies@fmo.com (Mike_D_Davies@fmo.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:28:00 -0000
Subject: inter project dependencies
Message-ID: <OF3D98FF7B.F728E1AB-ON80256B17.0048C0FC@na.fmo.com>








Jordan <jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au>@sources.redhat.com on 03/12/2001
11:30:58

Sent by:  sourcenav-owner@sources.redhat.com


To:   Ian Roxborough <irox@redhat.com>
cc:   sourcenav@sources.redhat.com
Subject:  Re: inter project dependencies



Alas I fear I have spent too long on the dark side :( In MSVC, the
term for the scope of an entire software build is a workspace which
consists of individual projects. So some projects can be libraries and
one can be the responsible for linking these in order to produce the
final executable (apologies for lessons in egg sucking). Mapping this
to SN and you have one project specifying the scope for multiple
targets, no? To me, this reflects a conventional makefile.

Assuming that this is correct, let me rephrase my earlier
question. How do I make one target depend on another in SN?





Hi,

If you start the project editor (Files/Project Editor in the Symbols
window) then there is a button for adding a project (*.proj file).  I
haven't tried it but you could try starting a completely new project (maybe
called workspace ?) and then adding the individual projects that you want
to be part of your workspace to that.   Then the top level build should
build all your parts and the component projects could still be built from
their individual projects ?

You may need to change the build command for the top level project - as I
said I haven't tried this  so it may not work.


Let us know how you get on ;-)


Mike Davies



From emthornber@iee.org  Wed Nov 21 00:56:00 2001
From: emthornber@iee.org (Mark Thornber)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:56:00 -0000
Subject: inter project dependencies
References: <OF3D98FF7B.F728E1AB-ON80256B17.0048C0FC@na.fmo.com>
Message-ID: <3C0B92F9.9010202@iee.org>

Jordan,

Adding projects to an existing SN project just creates a bigger, 
monolithic, project - there is no concept of sub-projects as in SNiFF+

Things work - but the downside is the length of time taken to reparse etc.

HTH
-- 
MarkT

Mike_D_Davies@fmo.com wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jordan <jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au>@sources.redhat.com on 03/12/2001
> 11:30:58
> 
> Sent by:  sourcenav-owner@sources.redhat.com
> 
> 
> To:   Ian Roxborough <irox@redhat.com>
> cc:   sourcenav@sources.redhat.com
> Subject:  Re: inter project dependencies
> 
> 
> 
> Alas I fear I have spent too long on the dark side :( In MSVC, the
> term for the scope of an entire software build is a workspace which
> consists of individual projects. So some projects can be libraries and
> one can be the responsible for linking these in order to produce the
> final executable (apologies for lessons in egg sucking). Mapping this
> to SN and you have one project specifying the scope for multiple
> targets, no? To me, this reflects a conventional makefile.
> 
> Assuming that this is correct, let me rephrase my earlier
> question. How do I make one target depend on another in SN?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If you start the project editor (Files/Project Editor in the Symbols
> window) then there is a button for adding a project (*.proj file).  I
> haven't tried it but you could try starting a completely new project (maybe
> called workspace ?) and then adding the individual projects that you want
> to be part of your workspace to that.   Then the top level build should
> build all your parts and the component projects could still be built from
> their individual projects ?
> 
> You may need to change the build command for the top level project - as I
> said I haven't tried this  so it may not work.
> 
> 
> Let us know how you get on ;-)
> 
> 
> Mike Davies
> 
> 
> 
> 



From jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au  Wed Nov 21 13:33:00 2001
From: jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au (Jordan)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:33:00 -0000
Subject: inter project dependencies
In-Reply-To: <3C0B92F9.9010202@iee.org>
References: <OF3D98FF7B.F728E1AB-ON80256B17.0048C0FC@na.fmo.com>
	<3C0B92F9.9010202@iee.org>
Message-ID: <15372.984.644508.991297@pride.nsw.cmis.CSIRO.AU>


WRT Mike Davies suggestion, Mark's observation was my own - obviously
motivated by the same things that caused "duplicate project" to be
included in SNav interface. 

I think my revised request idenitifies the issue in sufficiently
unambiguous terms, free of my confusion over differences in
terminology between MSVC and SNav.


    Mark> Jordan, Adding projects to an existing SN project just
    Mark> creates a bigger, monolithic, project - there is no concept
    Mark> of sub-projects as in SNiFF+

    Mark> Things work - but the downside is the length of time taken
    Mark> to reparse etc.

    Mark> HTH -- MarkT

    Mark> Mike_D_Davies@fmo.com wrote:

    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >> Jordan <jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au>@sources.redhat.com on
    >> 03/12/2001 11:30:58
    >> 
    >> Sent by: sourcenav-owner@sources.redhat.com
    >> 
    >> 
    >> To: Ian Roxborough <irox@redhat.com> cc:
    >> sourcenav@sources.redhat.com Subject: Re: inter project
    >> dependencies
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >> Alas I fear I have spent too long on the dark side :( In MSVC,
    >> the term for the scope of an entire software build is a
    >> workspace which consists of individual projects. So some
    >> projects can be libraries and one can be the responsible for
    >> linking these in order to produce the final executable
    >> (apologies for lessons in egg sucking). Mapping this to SN and
    >> you have one project specifying the scope for multiple targets,
    >> no? To me, this reflects a conventional makefile.
    >> 
    >> Assuming that this is correct, let me rephrase my earlier
    >> question. How do I make one target depend on another in SN?
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >> Hi,
    >> 
    >> If you start the project editor (Files/Project Editor in the
    >> Symbols window) then there is a button for adding a project
    >> (*.proj file).  I haven't tried it but you could try starting a
    >> completely new project (maybe called workspace ?) and then
    >> adding the individual projects that you want to be part of your
    >> workspace to that.  Then the top level build should build all
    >> your parts and the component projects could still be built from
    >> their individual projects ?
    >> 
    >> You may need to change the build command for the top level
    >> project - as I said I haven't tried this so it may not work.
    >> 
    >> 
    >> Let us know how you get on ;-)
    >> 
    >> 
    >> Mike Davies
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 




-- 
Jordan Howarth				mailto:jordan.howarth@cmis.csiro.au
CSIRO					p: (07) 3375 9632, (07) 3826 7314
Mathematical and Information Sciences	f: (07) 3826 7304

         -=| For every truth there are a thousand lies |=-


From dangelo.sasaman@tiscalinet.it  Wed Nov 21 20:47:00 2001
From: dangelo.sasaman@tiscalinet.it (salvatore d'angelo)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:47:00 -0000
Subject: charset problem with mandrake 8.1
Message-ID: <3C10BCA2.6B699008@tiscalinet.it>


Hi all,

I have a problem with source navigator 4.5.2 installed on a Linux box
with mandrake 8.1. The problem is that I have configured the charset
iso8859-1 and the char " is visualed incorrectly (using an itelian
keyboard).

Befor the migration from 8.0 to 8.1 all worked fine.

Please can anyone help me? I do not if this is the correct mail list
where submit problems, if no please send me back the address where I can
post it.

Thanx.
Bye



From eraffenne@teleline.es  Thu Nov 22 00:00:00 2001
From: eraffenne@teleline.es (Emmanuelle Raffenne)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: charset problem with mandrake 8.1
In-Reply-To: <3C10BCA2.6B699008@tiscalinet.it>
References: <3C10BCA2.6B699008@tiscalinet.it>
Message-ID: <1007736443.2791.1.camel@pinky.homeip.net>

Hi:

I'm using mdk 8.1 too and I got the same problem. I resolved it choosing
a different font in the global preferences:
Fonts -> Editor -> text, choose Family=*, Name=*.
I hope it will work for you.
--
Emmanuelle Raffenne

El vie, 07-12-2001 a las 13:57, salvatore d'angelo escribi?:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have a problem with source navigator 4.5.2 installed on a Linux box
> with mandrake 8.1. The problem is that I have configured the charset
> iso8859-1 and the char " is visualed incorrectly (using an itelian
> keyboard).
> 
> Befor the migration from 8.0 to 8.1 all worked fine.
> 
> Please can anyone help me? I do not if this is the correct mail list
> where submit problems, if no please send me back the address where I can
> post it.
> 
> Thanx.
> Bye
> 
> 


From jameshq@liverpool.ac.uk  Thu Nov 22 02:57:00 2001
From: jameshq@liverpool.ac.uk (HuangQiang)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:57:00 -0000
Subject: Help for setting the source navigator
Message-ID: <KIEBICHBADHFCLGCKOPDGEAMCKAA.jameshq@liv.ac.uk>

Dear all:
   I am just starting use the source navigator 5.0.  I am based on win2000,
I have the cygwin installed and development tools: gcc, gdb, g++, ld, ....
(Net release). Is it possible for me to use source navigator with the
cygwin? I did try to use it, but when I try to build the program it fails.
The following is my setting for the source navigator.

1. Build Rules:
Yacc =>  C:\cygwin\bin\bison.exe
Lex => C:\cygwin\bin\flex.exe
C => C:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe
C++ => C:\cygwin\bin\g++.exe

Include Tab: c:/cygwin/include

2 .Link Rules
Linker:  which should I put in this option: C:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe ?  or
C:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe ?

3.
File -> Project Preference -> others -> Build -> "C:\cygwin\bin\make.exe"
File -> Project Preference -> others -> Insight Debugger command ->
C:\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe

5.
Tools -> Build -> Build Command: C:\cygwin\bin\make.exe (Is this right?)

4.
Simple Application to be built.

/* this is a simple hello world program */
#include <stdio.h>

int main(void)
{
  printf("Hello, eCos world!\n");
  return (0);
}


When I try to build above application I got the following error message:

rm -f *.o
rm -f testbuild.exe
make: rm: Command not found
make: *** [clean] Error 127
+++ End +++

But when I try to type "rm" command in cygwin (bash) it is there. ( I can
excute the rm command in bash)

When I made a force build:

Error message:

c:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe -c /d/Project/test/./hello.c -IC:/cygwin/include
make: C:cygwinbingcc.exe: command not found
make: ***[hello.o] Error 127
make: Target 'all' not remade because of errors
+++ End +++



Thanks for every help.


Best regards!



james


From jameshq@liverpool.ac.uk  Thu Nov 22 03:15:00 2001
From: jameshq@liverpool.ac.uk (HuangQiang)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:15:00 -0000
Subject: Problem about getting mail from mailling list?
Message-ID: <KIEBICHBADHFCLGCKOPDAECACKAA.jameshq@liv.ac.uk>

I have subscribed to the mailling list why I still can't receive any email
from it?

Thanks

james


From devcyg@hotmail.com  Thu Nov 22 07:36:00 2001
From: devcyg@hotmail.com (dev cyg)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 07:36:00 -0000
Subject: Source Navigator
Message-ID: <F271fWb4SaFMwr9y4cp0000061c@hotmail.com>

I'd like to try to rebuild sourcenavi on Windows2000.
Plese send rational build instructions for Windows.
Thanks.


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From David.Robinson@citrix.com.au  Thu Nov 22 08:09:00 2001
From: David.Robinson@citrix.com.au (David Robinson (AU))
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:09:00 -0000
Subject: Source Navigator
Message-ID: <A364502829E6D3119BF400508B2D831F0197E331@sydexch01.citrix.com.au>


Start here:
ftp://sources.redhat.com/pub/sourcenav/releases/README

David.

-----Original Message-----
From: dev cyg [mailto:devcyg@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2001 15:23
To: sourcenav@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: Source Navigator


I'd like to try to rebuild sourcenavi on Windows2000.
Plese send rational build instructions for Windows.
Thanks.


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From David.Robinson@citrix.com.au  Fri Nov 23 09:33:00 2001
From: David.Robinson@citrix.com.au (David Robinson (AU))
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 09:33:00 -0000
Subject: README correction
Message-ID: <A364502829E6D3119BF400508B2D831F0197E332@sydexch01.citrix.com.au>

Hello


The Source Navigator README includes build instructions for the Win32
platform.

ftp://sources.redhat.com/pub/sourcenav/releases/README

Readme extract:
	"- Microsoft Visual C++ 5.0 or 6.0. You must install the software
and
	put the binary directories on your path. You must also set the
	INCLUDE and LIBRARIES variables correctly."

Comments:
	The correct environment variable name is LIB (not LIBRARIES).
	These environment variables are automatically set, and the binary
directories
	are automatically added to your path, when you run VCVARS32.BAT.
	Look for "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual
Studio\VC98\Bin\VCVARS32.BAT"

Hope this helps.


David.


From David.Robinson@citrix.com.au  Fri Nov 23 10:47:00 2001
From: David.Robinson@citrix.com.au (David Robinson (AU))
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:47:00 -0000
Subject: Building SN50 on Win32
Message-ID: <A364502829E6D3119BF400508B2D831F0197E333@sydexch01.citrix.com.au>

Hello


Extracted from "sn50/build/tcl8.1/win/Makefile"

	(Line 354) cvars      = -DWIN32 -D_WIN32
	(Line 355) cvarsmt    = $(cvars) -D_MT
	(Line 356) cvarsdll   = $(cvarsmt) -D_DLL	

The macros "_MT" and "_DLL" are usually predefined by the
compiler when the "/MD" compiler qualifier is used (to enable
multithreading using the MSVCRT.DLL runtime library). However
in this case the /MD qualifier is not used.

It is strange that these macros are manually defined in the
makefile. This is either a mistake, or an obscure trick to fool
the standard header files.

Comments?


David.


From irox@redhat.com  Fri Nov 23 14:08:00 2001
From: irox@redhat.com (Ian Roxborough)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:08:00 -0000
Subject: Update on SN progress....
Message-ID: <20011212010549.61734405.irox@redhat.com>


Hi everybody,

thought I'd post an update on what's going on with Source Navigator.
The short story is, I've not done much.
 
But, I did put SN under CVS (actually I did it a while ago and
didn't tell anybody....).

It's a work in progress but it will build on linux (and maybe
other UNIX systems).  The Window build is pretty broken right
now.  When I get around to fixing it up I'm going to change
the compiler from MSVC++ to gcc.  That should make it a little
easier to build and I don't think they should be any performance
change.

So, if you are interested in having a look at what will hopefully
become  Source-Navigator 5.1 some day, then the first thing you
need to do is checkout all the sources.

Grab all the things that are needed to build Source-Navigator:

[irox@localhost sourcenav]$ export CVSROOT=:pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.cygnus.com:/cvs/src
[irox@localhost sourcenav]$ cvs login
(Logging in to anoncvs@anoncvs.cygnus.com)
CVS password:
{The password is "anoncvs".}
[irox@localhost sourcenav]$ cvs co src-support naked-itcl naked-tk naked-tcl naked-tix naked-libgui
{Big long checkout....}
[irox@localhost sourcenav]$

Now we need to change our CVSROOT and grab the Source-Navigator sources:

[irox@localhost sourcenav]$ export CVSROOT=:pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.cygnus.com:/cvs/sourcenav
[irox@localhost sourcenav]$ cvs login
(Logging in to anoncvs@anoncvs.cygnus.com)
CVS password: 
{Same password again, "anoncvs".}
[irox@localhost sourcenav]$ cvs co snavigator
{Another big long checkout....}
[irox@localhost sourcenav]$

Check to make sure that you have all the required sources and
then build it:
[irox@localhost sourcenav]$ mkdir build
[irox@localhost sourcenav]$ cd build
[irox@localhost build]$ ../src/configure --prefix=/my/install/dir
{Big long configure....}
[irox@localhost build]$ make all-snavigator
{Big long build which breaks......}
[irox@localhost build]$ make all-tix
{A not so long build......}
[irox@localhost build]$ make all-snavigator
{A not so long build......}
[irox@localhost build]$ make install
{A long install thing....}

Now, if everything went well you can run it!

Some know problems:
The layout code that is used by the X-Ref tool to arrange the
calling tree is completely broken.  This is next on my list
of things to fix (it's in libgui).

I'm also planning to submit a patch to add a sn-support
module to the /cvs/src CVS root so we don't have to remember
all those modules each time we do a checkout.

Fix the tix dependency that causes the build to break.

I need to write a web page on how to build from CVS
(once all the kinks are smoothed out a bit).

Then I'll fix the Windows build and change the compiler to gcc.
I'm hoping that building with gcc will make it much easier for
me to maintain the Windows port (and hopefully a better working
Windows port).  Let me know if you think any differently BTW.

>From now on, all Source-Navigator development will be visable
to the public.  If you'd like to keep up with the latest changes
then you should subscribe to sourcenav-cvs@sources.redhat.com.
Might be a low traffic list depending on how much free time
I have for SN hacking.

Last but not least, they are some bug fixes in the CVS
version that are worth checking out.  I can't remember them
off the top of my head, but they include fixing the table
widget to get ride of the black block space and some other anonying
bugs have been fixed.

Anyway, good luck if you attempt to build from CVS.  Please
post to the list if you have success building on a non linux
host.

Thanks,

  Ian.


From leftspin@hotmail.com  Fri Nov 23 14:19:00 2001
From: leftspin@hotmail.com (Left Spin)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:19:00 -0000
Subject: Debugging SourceNavigator
Message-ID: <F1359isZ24dsPkskqed00001d79@hotmail.com>

I'd like to improve on Source Navigator. I've read up on tcl/tk and [incr 
tcl/tk], but now I'm at a loss on how you debug the running application. I'm 
having trouble following the state variables of the megawidgets, and I'd 
really like to be able to set break points in the tcl/tk code and examine 
objects.

Any help would be appreciated. My goal is to provide fixes to the source, 
and add an optional new editor keybindings configuration file (wordstar to 
start with).

Thanks



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From leftspin@hotmail.com  Sat Nov 24 14:01:00 2001
From: leftspin@hotmail.com (Left Spin)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:01:00 -0000
Subject: Debugging SourceNavigator
Message-ID: <F226GVwPGxgelXDeqoM00001de6@hotmail.com>

I'd like to improve on Source Navigator. I've read up on tcl/tk and [incr 
tcl/tk], but now I'm at a loss on how you debug the running application. I'm 
having trouble following the state variables of the megawidgets, and I'd 
really like to be able to set break points in the tcl/tk code and examine 
objects.

Any help would be appreciated. My goal is to provide fixes to the source, 
and add an optional new editor keybindings configuration file (wordstar to 
start with).

Thanks



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From mcf@cobweb.com.au  Sat Nov 24 14:40:00 2001
From: mcf@cobweb.com.au (Mike Fahlbusch)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:40:00 -0000
Subject: Debugging SourceNavigator
In-Reply-To: <F226GVwPGxgelXDeqoM00001de6@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011213120931.00aad080@mail.chariot.net.au>

At 01:19 AM 12/13/01 +0000, you wrote:

Here is my wish list:

- HTML help files included with binary
- list of array variables in menu Symbols-View-Variables
- goto line doesn't seem to work (if patch isn't currently included with d/l)
- iconise all windows command in Window menu
- Goto sel in top level Search menu instead of its own Search-Goto-Goto 
menu.  This to make the goto command easier to get to.
- multiple bookmarks (at least 10), with its own bookmarks menu, instead of 
just the one bookamark in the Search-Goto menu.
- a version of SN with compiled executable tcl/tk files instead of the 
interpreted format for improved execution speed (if not already done).
- and last but not least, reduced memory usage if possible


>I'd like to improve on Source Navigator. I've read up on tcl/tk and [incr 
>tcl/tk], but now I'm at a loss on how you debug the running application. 
>I'm having trouble following the state variables of the megawidgets, and 
>I'd really like to be able to set break points in the tcl/tk code and 
>examine objects.
>
>Any help would be appreciated. My goal is to provide fixes to the source, 
>and add an optional new editor keybindings configuration file (wordstar to 
>start with).


From leftspin@hotmail.com  Sun Nov 25 18:28:00 2001
From: leftspin@hotmail.com (Left Spin)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 18:28:00 -0000
Subject: Debugging SourceNavigator
Message-ID: <F259qkhqntKrUV0hCLw00001ec6@hotmail.com>

Yeah, those would be nice. So far, I've only been able to change simple 
things like changing the default symbol browser combo box to check only 
Functions, and change some key bindings.


>From: Mike Fahlbusch <mcf@cobweb.com.au>
>To: sourcenav@sources.redhat.com
>CC: "Left Spin" <leftspin@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Debugging SourceNavigator
>Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:21:10 +1030
>
>At 01:19 AM 12/13/01 +0000, you wrote:
>
>Here is my wish list:
>
>- HTML help files included with binary
>- list of array variables in menu Symbols-View-Variables
>- goto line doesn't seem to work (if patch isn't currently included with 
>d/l)
>- iconise all windows command in Window menu
>- Goto sel in top level Search menu instead of its own Search-Goto-Goto
>menu.  This to make the goto command easier to get to.
>- multiple bookmarks (at least 10), with its own bookmarks menu, instead of
>just the one bookamark in the Search-Goto menu.
>- a version of SN with compiled executable tcl/tk files instead of the
>interpreted format for improved execution speed (if not already done).
>- and last but not least, reduced memory usage if possible
>
>
>>I'd like to improve on Source Navigator. I've read up on tcl/tk and [incr
>>tcl/tk], but now I'm at a loss on how you debug the running application.
>>I'm having trouble following the state variables of the megawidgets, and
>>I'd really like to be able to set break points in the tcl/tk code and
>>examine objects.
>>
>>Any help would be appreciated. My goal is to provide fixes to the source,
>>and add an optional new editor keybindings configuration file (wordstar to
>>start with).
>




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From jazzman@bayarea.net  Mon Nov 26 00:23:00 2001
From: jazzman@bayarea.net (Syd Polk)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 00:23:00 -0000
Subject: Debugging SourceNavigator
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011213120931.00aad080@mail.chariot.net.au>
Message-ID: <3C184FB1.D481BC77@bayarea.net>



Mike Fahlbusch wrote:
> 
> At 01:19 AM 12/13/01 +0000, you wrote:
> 
> Here is my wish list:
> 
> - HTML help files included with binary

They should be there, actually. They should end up in share/doc/html or
some such place.

> - list of array variables in menu Symbols-View-Variables
> - goto line doesn't seem to work (if patch isn't currently included with d/l)
> - iconise all windows command in Window menu
> - Goto sel in top level Search menu instead of its own Search-Goto-Goto
> menu.  This to make the goto command easier to get to.
> - multiple bookmarks (at least 10), with its own bookmarks menu, instead of
> just the one bookamark in the Search-Goto menu.
> - a version of SN with compiled executable tcl/tk files instead of the
> interpreted format for improved execution speed (if not already done).

Unlikely. Tcl/Tk is much faster now than it used to be. Most of the
slowdowns are in questionable coding practices in the tcl code or the
extensions that were written for SN. We did not have time to fix them
all.

> - and last but not least, reduced memory usage if possible

Difficult at best. SN has a lot of info sitting around.
 
> >I'd like to improve on Source Navigator. I've read up on tcl/tk and [incr
> >tcl/tk], but now I'm at a loss on how you debug the running application.

There is no good way to step SN through a debugger. I would investigate
setting the SN_DEBUG variable and using the logging. I have also spent
time actually in gdb with the C code for the Tcl interpreter figuring
out problems.

> >I'm having trouble following the state variables of the megawidgets, and
> >I'd really like to be able to set break points in the tcl/tk code and
> >examine objects.

One thing you can do is launch the console, load the SN part, and then
selectively replace the pieces you need. tk is a dynamic coding
environment, and you should be able to take advantage of that.

> >Any help would be appreciated. My goal is to provide fixes to the source,
> >and add an optional new editor keybindings configuration file (wordstar to
> >start with).

Good luck to you.


From jameshq@liverpool.ac.uk  Tue Nov 27 05:47:00 2001
From: jameshq@liverpool.ac.uk (HuangQiang)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 05:47:00 -0000
Subject: Can't build the application
Message-ID: <KIEBICHBADHFCLGCKOPDIEEGCKAA.jameshq@liv.ac.uk>

I tried to build the application using SN, I got the error message output:

gcc -o hello.exe
gcc: No input files
make: ***[hello.exe] Error 1
++++End++++


Detail:
OS: win2000
cygwin
SN 5.0

hello.c:    void main(void){ printf("Hello World!");}
hello project

I tried the gcc -o hello.exe in the cygwin it also told me there is some
input file needed. The correct form should be like:
gcc hello.c -o hello.exe ( why the SN generate such command: gcc -o
hello.exe ?)

Thanks for your help

Best regards!

james


From support@internetdiscovery.com  Tue Nov 27 17:10:00 2001
From: support@internetdiscovery.com (Mike Clarkson)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:10:00 -0000
Subject: Debugging SourceNavigator
In-Reply-To: <F1359isZ24dsPkskqed00001d79@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20011214092227.008fb2e0@popd.ix.netcom.com>

At 01:18 AM 12/13/01 +0000, you wrote:
>I'd like to improve on Source Navigator. I've read up on tcl/tk and [incr 
>tcl/tk], but now I'm at a loss on how you debug the running application. I'm 
>having trouble following the state variables of the megawidgets, and I'd 
>really like to be able to set break points in the tcl/tk code and examine 
>objects.

There's a very good debugger/inspector for Tcl/Tk/Tix called TixInspect,
which has a basic but fairly useful debugger built into it. The inspector
lets you see
everything, and modify things on the fly - it's very powerful. Look at

	http://tix.sourceforge.net/Tixapps

To use SN with TixInspect under Unix, you'll have to comply with Tk's
semi-rigorous demands for Xauth authentication and no xhosts, or recompile the
tk dynamic library with this turned off. In the Makefile for tk, look for

# To turn off the security checks that disallow incoming sends when
# the X server appears to be insecure, reverse the comments on the
# following lines:
SECURITY_FLAGS = 
#SECURITY_FLAGS = -DTK_NO_SECURITY

Then in the SN code, if it's not already there, add the following line;

	tk appname "SN#[winfo id .]"

To use SN with TixInspect under Windows, you'll have make sure the 
Tcl tcldde83.dll is available either in the directory with with the tcl83.dll
or in lib/tcl8.3/dde1.0 (replace 83 with whatever verion of Tcl you're using).

Then in the SN code, if it's not already there, add the following lines;

	package require dde
	dde servername "SN#[winfo id .]"

>Any help would be appreciated. My goal is to provide fixes to the source, 
>and add an optional new editor keybindings configuration file (wordstar to 
>start with).

TixInspect is the revised updated version of the time-honoured Tkinspect,
and is built for Tix applications such as SN. OTOH, if I had of known you
were going to use it for adding Wordstar bindings, I would never have
released it:-)

Mike.


From aprea@science.unitn.it  Tue Nov 27 18:07:00 2001
From: aprea@science.unitn.it (Davide Aprea)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:07:00 -0000
Subject: Can't run project with SN 4.5.2 
Message-ID: <3C1A3845.2090000@science.unitn.it>

Hi,

I have some problems with the build command of SN4.5.2 for windows.
If I use the cygwin prompt without SN it's all right, when I use SN
I can't compile anything. I riceive message like
gcc: rm command not found
or
make: gcc not found

I modified the path variable in order to avoid the use of microsoft's 
make.exe file.

Is it a problem of this SN version, or anything else?

Thanks a lot
Davide

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From Rainer.Brestan@sea.ericsson.se  Tue Nov 27 19:41:00 2001
From: Rainer.Brestan@sea.ericsson.se (Rainer Brestan (SEA))
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:41:00 -0000
Subject: SN 5.0 and ClearCase integration
Message-ID: <F0F5F5C6F71AD5119D380008C75DA44CC1324A@eatvint902>

When i try to use the ClearCase (i am using 4.2 on Solaris 8) integration of SN 5.0, it dont really work.

If i want to checkout something, SN crashes with a segmentation fault.
The history has space lines in it, no symbolic tags are displayed, and so on...

I also found no way to tell SN that read only files shouldn?t be modified. It shows me a warning windows, but after that i can change the file.

Has anyone successfull integrated SN 5.0 with ClearCase 4 versions ?
Is there a way to tell SN, when a file is checked in and i want to change it, that it presents me a dialog, if i would check the file out ?

Thanks, Rainer


From bill_brune@ltx.com  Thu Nov 29 16:24:00 2001
From: bill_brune@ltx.com (Bill Brune)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:24:00 -0000
Subject: SN 5.0 and ClearCase integration
References: <F0F5F5C6F71AD5119D380008C75DA44CC1324A@eatvint902>
Message-ID: <3C1A3C38.B12F2EAC@ltx.com>

Hi,

Yes, I ran into that problem also.  I fixed up my version of SN to work with clearcase.    There are fixes to
do in the TCL code that handles revision control, and fixes to the revision control command lines in the configuration file.
Sorry I can't give you any more details right now,  I don't remember all the details.

-Bill


"Rainer Brestan (SEA)" wrote:

> When i try to use the ClearCase (i am using 4.2 on Solaris 8) integration of SN 5.0, it dont really work.
>
> If i want to checkout something, SN crashes with a segmentation fault.
> The history has space lines in it, no symbolic tags are displayed, and so on...
>
> I also found no way to tell SN that read only files shouldn??t be modified. It shows me a warning windows, but after that i can change the file.
>
> Has anyone successfull integrated SN 5.0 with ClearCase 4 versions ?
> Is there a way to tell SN, when a file is checked in and i want to change it, that it presents me a dialog, if i would check the file out ?
>
> Thanks, Rainer


From support@internetdiscovery.com  Thu Nov 29 23:46:00 2001
From: support@internetdiscovery.com (Mike Clarkson)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 23:46:00 -0000
Subject: Debugging SourceNavigator
In-Reply-To: <3C184FB1.D481BC77@bayarea.net>
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011213120931.00aad080@mail.chariot.net.au>
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20011214110857.008fd1a0@popd.ix.netcom.com>

At 10:50 PM 12/12/01 -0800, Syd Polk wrote:
>
>
>Mike Fahlbusch wrote:
> 
>> >I'd like to improve on Source Navigator. I've read up on tcl/tk and [incr
>> >tcl/tk], but now I'm at a loss on how you debug the running application.
>
>There is no good way to step SN through a debugger. I would investigate
>setting the SN_DEBUG variable and using the logging. I have also spent
>time actually in gdb with the C code for the Tcl interpreter figuring
>out problems.

With Tixinspect you are debugging the run-time program by connecting to it
with Tk's send mechanism. After making the SN interpreter "visible" to send
by doing the steps I outlined previously, use File/Select Interpreter/
and look for the interpreter named SN#xxxx where xxxx is the window id.

>> >I'm having trouble following the state variables of the megawidgets, and
>> >I'd really like to be able to set break points in the tcl/tk code and
>> >examine objects.
>
>One thing you can do is launch the console, load the SN part, and then
>selectively replace the pieces you need. tk is a dynamic coding
>environment, and you should be able to take advantage of that.

With Tixinspect use Tcl/TixDebug to bring up the debugger, then click on
Refresh. It takes advantage of the fact that tk is a dynamic coding
environment, and selectively replace the pieces you choose with instrumented
procedures that activate the debugger. You can set breakpoints, or step
through procedures.

Mike.


From peter@ics.com  Sun Dec  2 19:36:00 2001
From: peter@ics.com (peter winston)
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 19:36:00 -0000
Subject: source navigator license
Message-ID: <005101c188df$652b36e0$4bb770d8@ics.com>



Hi,


I'm trying to find out if there is on-going work on source navigator.

If not, I would like to acquire a non-GPL license.  who would I talk to
about this.


thanks

-peter winston


From khamis@gmx.de  Mon Dec  3 00:48:00 2001
From: khamis@gmx.de (Khamis Abuelkomboz)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 00:48:00 -0000
Subject: Add-On: Word Completion
Message-ID: <000b01c188e4$eccaf6d0$897ba8c0@power>

Hi All,

For more information see http://oimanager.de/sn.htm

Text/Word completion
Today every second hand developing application supports keyword completion, when hitting something like Shift-Space (why not Source-Navigator). Since I got a good idea to realize this in Source-Navigator I decided to just implement it and the result is cool. 

Just now it is not integreted in Source-Navigator and it is provided as Add-On. 

   Screen-Shot
     
     Download and Installation
     


You need to download the following files 

rc.tcl and CompleteWord.tcl

and put them into your Source-Navigator Profile directory. This is on

      Windows: %USERPROFILE%/.sn 
      UNIX: $HOME/.sn 

You need also to download the file

bindings.tcl and place it into <SN>/share/sourcenav/gui.

This copy fixes a problem in the search module of the treetable, when Num Lock is on (propably Windows only).



     That's all, just restart Source-Navigator and hit Shift-Space on any word
     
     any recommandation or feedbacks are wormly welcomed.
     


Have fun
Khamis

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From khamis2@t-online.de  Mon Dec  3 03:31:00 2001
From: khamis2@t-online.de (Khamis Abuelkomboz)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 03:31:00 -0000
Subject: Add-On: Word Completion
Message-ID: <002b01c188e5$31808880$897ba8c0@power>

Hi All,

For more information see http://oimanager.de/sn.htm

Text/Word completion 
Today every second hand developing application supports keyword completion, when hitting something like Shift-Space (why not Source-Navigator). Since I got a good idea to realize this in Source-Navigator I decided to just implement it and the result is cool. 

Just now it is not integreted in Source-Navigator and it is provided as Add-On. 

   Screen-Shot
     
     Download and Installation
     


You need to download the following files 

rc.tcl and CompleteWord.tcl

and put them into your Source-Navigator Profile directory. This is on

      Windows: %USERPROFILE%/.sn 
      UNIX: $HOME/.sn 

You need also to download the file

bindings.tcl and place it into <SN>/share/sourcenav/gui.

This copy fixes a problem in the search module of the treetable, when Num Lock is on (propably Windows only).



     That's all, just restart Source-Navigator and hit Shift-Space on any word
     
     any recommandation or feedbacks are wormly welcomed.
     


Have fun
Khamis

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From khamis2@t-online.de  Mon Dec  3 05:32:00 2001
From: khamis2@t-online.de (Khamis Abuelkomboz)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 05:32:00 -0000
Subject: source navigator license
References: <005101c188df$652b36e0$4bb770d8@ics.com>
Message-ID: <3C2125B5.9030307@t-online.de>

peter winston wrote:

>
>Hi,
>
>
>I'm trying to find out if there is on-going work on source navigator.
>
Just now the work on SN is 'officially' frozen but Ian Roxborough is 
doing good work
(in his free time) to get a next better release of Source-Navigator. My 
self is also doing
some stuff, but generally functionality that just fails in SN 
(extensions), like new parsers
or 'must to be fixed' bugs.

>
>If not, I would like to acquire a non-GPL license.  who would I talk to
>about this.
>
As you mentioned Source-Navigator is GPLed (no licenses can be bought). 
But if you really want to
pay money you can order the Package GNUPro XXL.

Just download it and be happy if you find things good in it and don't be 
frostrated
when something doesn't go well as you like. Just hope that you will get 
the next release soon :-)

Khamis

>
>thanks
>
>-peter winston
>
>



From davenportosan@yahoo.com  Mon Dec  3 06:58:00 2001
From: davenportosan@yahoo.com (Daven Portosan)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 06:58:00 -0000
Subject: source navigator license
Message-ID: <20011220004436.87042.qmail@web13509.mail.yahoo.com>

I don't think he is asking as a user.

I'm guessing Peter would like to get a non-GPL license

so he can sell it as part of a proprietary product.
Maybe integrate it with something else or add some
application specific extentions.

It's an interesting idea, let us know if you get
Red Hat to do it.

-----Original Message-----
From: sourcenav-owner@sources.redhat.com
[mailto:sourcenav-owner@sources.redhat.com]On Behalf
Of Khamis
Abuelkomboz
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:42 PM
To: peter@ics.com
Cc: sourcenav@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: source navigator license


peter winston wrote:

>
>Hi,
>
>
>I'm trying to find out if there is on-going work on
source navigator.
>
Just now the work on SN is 'officially' frozen but Ian
Roxborough is 
doing good work
(in his free time) to get a next better release of
Source-Navigator. My 
self is also doing
some stuff, but generally functionality that just
fails in SN 
(extensions), like new parsers
or 'must to be fixed' bugs.

>
>If not, I would like to acquire a non-GPL license. 
who would I talk 
to
>about this.
>
As you mentioned Source-Navigator is GPLed (no
licenses can be bought). 
But if you really want to
pay money you can order the Package GNUPro XXL.

Just download it and be happy if you find things good
in it and don't 
be 
frostrated
when something doesn't go well as you like. Just hope
that you will get 
the next release soon :-)

Khamis

>
>thanks
>
>-peter winston
>
>


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From William.Gacquer@laposte.net  Mon Dec  3 15:07:00 2001
From: William.Gacquer@laposte.net (William Gacquer)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 15:07:00 -0000
Subject: Add-On: Word Completion
References: <000b01c188e4$eccaf6d0$897ba8c0@power>
Message-ID: <3C223E42.9070407@laposte.net>

Let me tell you that you should be honored for that piece of code. I 
expected it for so long!

THANKS!
William

Khamis Abuelkomboz wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>  
>
> For more information see http://oimanager.de/sn.htm
>
>  
>
> Text/Word completion
>
> Today every second hand developing application supports keyword 
> completion, when hitting something like Shift-Space (why not 
> Source-Navigator). Since I got a good idea to realize this in 
> Source-Navigator I decided to just implement it and the result is cool.
>
> Just now it is not integreted in Source-Navigator and it is provided 
> as Add-On.
>
>  
> <cid:part1.02080504.02090908@netscape.com>
>
> * Screen-Shot <http://oimanager.de/sn/CompleteWord.jpg> *
>
> <cid:part2.04040903.09050208@netscape.com>
>
> * Download and Installation*
>
> You need to download the following files 
>
> rc.tcl <http://oimanager.de/sn/gui/rc.tcl> and CompleteWord.tcl 
> <http://oimanager.de/sn/gui/CompleteWord.tcl>
>
> and put them into your Source-Navigator *Profile directory*. This is on
>
> Windows: *%USERPROFILE%/.sn*
> UNIX: *$HOME/.sn*
>
> You need also to download the file
>
> bindings.tcl <http://oimanager.de/sn/gui/bindings.tcl> and place it 
> into *<SN>/share/sourcenav/gui*.
>
> This copy fixes a problem in the search module of the treetable, when 
> *Num Lock* is on (propably Windows only).
>
>  
>
> <cid:part3.03010507.02030404@netscape.com>
>
> That's all, just restart Source-Navigator and hit Shift-Space on any word
>
> <cid:part4.01080808.07030108@netscape.com>
>
> any recommandation or feedbacks are wormly welcomed.
>
>  
>
> Have fun
>
> Khamis
>
>  
>


From tshead@k-3d.com  Fri Dec  7 04:56:00 2001
From: tshead@k-3d.com (Timothy M. Shead)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 04:56:00 -0000
Subject: SN 5.0 Patch: standard C++ keywords
Message-ID: <1008907334.2819.5.camel@kathy>

Gang:

The enclosed patch updates SN5.0.0 highlighting to conform to the
complete set of C++ keywords defined in ISO/IEC 14882-1998, Table 3. 
Specifically, it:

* Adds dynamic_cast, explicit, export, false, mutable, true, typeid,
typename, and wchar_t

* Removes interface and overload

Comments welcome,
Timothy M. Shead





From tshead@k-3d.com  Fri Dec  7 06:46:00 2001
From: tshead@k-3d.com (Timothy M. Shead)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 06:46:00 -0000
Subject: SN 5.0 Patch: standard C++ keywords, take 2
Message-ID: <1008907443.29604.9.camel@kathy>

Gang:

The enclosed patch updates SN5.0.0 highlighting to conform to the
complete set of C++ keywords defined in ISO/IEC 14882-1998, Table 3. 
Specifically, it:

* Adds dynamic_cast, explicit, export, false, mutable, true, typeid,
typename, and wchar_t

* Removes interface and overload

Comments welcome,
Timothy M. Shead



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From tshead@k-3d.com  Fri Dec  7 13:43:00 2001
From: tshead@k-3d.com (Timothy M. Shead)
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 13:43:00 -0000
Subject: SN5.0 Patch: compiling under gcc 3.0
Message-ID: <1008907524.2819.11.camel@kathy>

Enclosed (for real) is a patch to get SN5.0 to compile under gcc 3.0


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From dieter.braisch@nexgo.de  Tue Dec 11 03:49:00 2001
From: dieter.braisch@nexgo.de (dieter.braisch@nexgo.de)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 03:49:00 -0000
Subject: Can't build the application 
Message-ID: <20011224.10352479@mis.configured.host>

Hallo SN users,

I find the SN a very good tool for programming and developping with 
C/C++.
I have used it firstly under Linux and it works very fine.
Then I've downloaded the newest cygwin 1.3.6 and SN 5.0 and tried to use 
it on Win2000. This task wasn't so easy.
I got the same problem with the global path.
Gcc, g++ and make .. no problem from cygwin-bash-shell and win-cmd-shell
But not visible from SN!
Then, uninstall Cygwin.
I tried an older cygwin 1.3.2 download, and voila, the problem is fixed.

Now, I work with the older cygwin.
Please tell me, if you can confirm this approach. 
Or did I a mistake under cygwin 1.3.6?
I havn't tried cygwin 1.3.3 .. 1.3.5 yet.

Merry Christmas and a happy new year 2002 to all of you
Dieter


From irox@redhat.com  Tue Dec 11 20:24:00 2001
From: irox@redhat.com (Ian Roxborough)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 20:24:00 -0000
Subject: Can't build the application
In-Reply-To: <20011224.10352479@mis.configured.host>
References: <20011224.10352479@mis.configured.host>
Message-ID: <20011224124646.406c933b.irox@redhat.com>


Hi,

On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 10:35:24 GMT <dieter.braisch@nexgo.de> wrote:
>
> Hallo SN users,
> 
> I find the SN a very good tool for programming and developping with 
> C/C++.
> I have used it firstly under Linux and it works very fine.
> Then I've downloaded the newest cygwin 1.3.6 and SN 5.0 and tried to use 
> it on Win2000. This task wasn't so easy.
> I got the same problem with the global path.
> Gcc, g++ and make .. no problem from cygwin-bash-shell and win-cmd-shell
> But not visible from SN!

This is a problem many people have reported.

> Then, uninstall Cygwin.
> I tried an older cygwin 1.3.2 download, and voila, the problem is fixed.

Ah! thanks for the information on how to work around the problem.
This is the same version of cygwin I've been using.  Which is
maybe why I couldn't reproduce the problem.

> Now, I work with the older cygwin.
> Please tell me, if you can confirm this approach. 
> Or did I a mistake under cygwin 1.3.6?

Where all the people who where having this problem
running cygwin version 1.3.6? (please speakup so
I can narrow down how much I have to do to fix
the problem..)

> I havn't tried cygwin 1.3.3 .. 1.3.5 yet.

Can any one else comment of these versions?
(Maybe this is a cygwin bug?)


Happy holidays,

  Ian,


From rdparker@butlermfg.com  Tue Dec 11 20:30:00 2001
From: rdparker@butlermfg.com (Parker, Ron)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 20:30:00 -0000
Subject: Bold Text in Hierarchy Browser
Message-ID: <E94FF01DFF6CD31186F4080009DC361503E88508@nttwr2.tower.bldgs.butlermfg.org>

I have been using Source-Navigator and greatly appreciate the work that has
been put into it. Thanks one and all.

Why are some classes in the hierarchy browser shown in bold and others are
not?

If you know, please respond directly to me and to the list since I am not a
subscriber, but I did try to find it in the archives.


From khamis2@t-online.de  Tue Dec 11 20:57:00 2001
From: khamis2@t-online.de (Khamis Abuelkomboz)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 20:57:00 -0000
Subject: Bold Text in Hierarchy Browser
References: <E94FF01DFF6CD31186F4080009DC361503E88508@nttwr2.tower.bldgs.butlermfg.org>
Message-ID: <3C2BB299.1050005@t-online.de>



Parker, Ron wrote:

>I have been using Source-Navigator and greatly appreciate the work that has
>been put into it. Thanks one and all.
>
>Why are some classes in the hierarchy browser shown in bold and others are
>not?
>
>If you know, please respond directly to me and to the list since I am not a
>subscriber, but I did try to find it in the archives.
>
the bold classes contain virtual members!



From David.Robinson@citrix.com.au  Tue Dec 11 21:18:00 2001
From: David.Robinson@citrix.com.au (David Robinson (AU))
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:18:00 -0000
Subject: Building SN50 on Win32
Message-ID: <A364502829E6D3119BF400508B2D831F0197E333@sydexch01.citrix.com.au>

Hello


Extracted from "sn50/build/tcl8.1/win/Makefile"

	(Line 354) cvars      = -DWIN32 -D_WIN32
	(Line 355) cvarsmt    = $(cvars) -D_MT
	(Line 356) cvarsdll   = $(cvarsmt) -D_DLL	

The macros "_MT" and "_DLL" are usually predefined by the
compiler when the "/MD" compiler qualifier is used (to enable
multithreading using the MSVCRT.DLL runtime library). However
in this case the /MD qualifier is not used.

It is strange that these macros are manually defined in the
makefile. This is either a mistake, or an obscure trick to fool
the standard header files.

Comments?


David.


From irox@redhat.com  Wed Dec 12 01:11:00 2001
From: irox@redhat.com (Ian Roxborough)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 01:11:00 -0000
Subject: Update on SN progress....
Message-ID: <20011212010549.61734405.irox@redhat.com>

Hi everybody,

thought I'd post an update on what's going on with Source Navigator.
The short story is, I've not done much.
 
But, I did put SN under CVS (actually I did it a while ago and
didn't tell anybody....).

It's a work in progress but it will build on linux (and maybe
other UNIX systems).  The Window build is pretty broken right
now.  When I get around to fixing it up I'm going to change
the compiler from MSVC++ to gcc.  That should make it a little
easier to build and I don't think they should be any performance
change.

So, if you are interested in having a look at what will hopefully
become  Source-Navigator 5.1 some day, then the first thing you
need to do is checkout all the sources.

Grab all the things that are needed to build Source-Navigator:

[irox@localhost sourcenav]$ export CVSROOT=:pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.cygnus.com:/cvs/src
[irox@localhost sourcenav]$ cvs login
(Logging in to anoncvs@anoncvs.cygnus.com)
CVS password:
{The password is "anoncvs".}
[irox@localhost sourcenav]$ cvs co src-support naked-itcl naked-tk naked-tcl naked-tix naked-libgui
{Big long checkout....}
[irox@localhost sourcenav]$

Now we need to change our CVSROOT and grab the Source-Navigator sources:

[irox@localhost sourcenav]$ export CVSROOT=:pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.cygnus.com:/cvs/sourcenav
[irox@localhost sourcenav]$ cvs login
(Logging in to anoncvs@anoncvs.cygnus.com)
CVS password: 
{Same password again, "anoncvs".}
[irox@localhost sourcenav]$ cvs co snavigator
{Another big long checkout....}
[irox@localhost sourcenav]$

Check to make sure that you have all the required sources and
then build it:
[irox@localhost sourcenav]$ mkdir build
[irox@localhost sourcenav]$ cd build
[irox@localhost build]$ ../src/configure --prefix=/my/install/dir
{Big long configure....}
[irox@localhost build]$ make all-snavigator
{Big long build which breaks......}
[irox@localhost build]$ make all-tix
{A not so long build......}
[irox@localhost build]$ make all-snavigator
{A not so long build......}
[irox@localhost build]$ make install
{A long install thing....}

Now, if everything went well you can run it!

Some know problems:
The layout code that is used by the X-Ref tool to arrange the
calling tree is completely broken.  This is next on my list
of things to fix (it's in libgui).

I'm also planning to submit a patch to add a sn-support
module to the /cvs/src CVS root so we don't have to remember
all those modules each time we do a checkout.

Fix the tix dependency that causes the build to break.

I need to write a web page on how to build from CVS
(once all the kinks are smoothed out a bit).

Then I'll fix the Windows build and change the compiler to gcc.
I'm hoping that building with gcc will make it much easier for
me to maintain the Windows port (and hopefully a better working
Windows port).  Let me know if you think any differently BTW.

>From now on, all Source-Navigator development will be visable
to the public.  If you'd like to keep up with the latest changes
then you should subscribe to sourcenav-cvs@sources.redhat.com.
Might be a low traffic list depending on how much free time
I have for SN hacking.

Last but not least, they are some bug fixes in the CVS
version that are worth checking out.  I can't remember them
off the top of my head, but they include fixing the table
widget to get ride of the black block space and some other anonying
bugs have been fixed.

Anyway, good luck if you attempt to build from CVS.  Please
post to the list if you have success building on a non linux
host.

Thanks,

  Ian.


From leftspin@hotmail.com  Wed Dec 12 17:18:00 2001
From: leftspin@hotmail.com (Left Spin)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:18:00 -0000
Subject: Debugging SourceNavigator
Message-ID: <F1359isZ24dsPkskqed00001d79@hotmail.com>

I'd like to improve on Source Navigator. I've read up on tcl/tk and [incr 
tcl/tk], but now I'm at a loss on how you debug the running application. I'm 
having trouble following the state variables of the megawidgets, and I'd 
really like to be able to set break points in the tcl/tk code and examine 
objects.

Any help would be appreciated. My goal is to provide fixes to the source, 
and add an optional new editor keybindings configuration file (wordstar to 
start with).

Thanks



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From leftspin@hotmail.com  Wed Dec 12 17:19:00 2001
From: leftspin@hotmail.com (Left Spin)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:19:00 -0000
Subject: Debugging SourceNavigator
Message-ID: <F226GVwPGxgelXDeqoM00001de6@hotmail.com>

I'd like to improve on Source Navigator. I've read up on tcl/tk and [incr 
tcl/tk], but now I'm at a loss on how you debug the running application. I'm 
having trouble following the state variables of the megawidgets, and I'd 
really like to be able to set break points in the tcl/tk code and examine 
objects.

Any help would be appreciated. My goal is to provide fixes to the source, 
and add an optional new editor keybindings configuration file (wordstar to 
start with).

Thanks



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From mcf@cobweb.com.au  Wed Dec 12 18:03:00 2001
From: mcf@cobweb.com.au (Mike Fahlbusch)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:03:00 -0000
Subject: Debugging SourceNavigator
References: <F226GVwPGxgelXDeqoM00001de6@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011213120931.00aad080@mail.chariot.net.au>

At 01:19 AM 12/13/01 +0000, you wrote:

Here is my wish list:

- HTML help files included with binary
- list of array variables in menu Symbols-View-Variables
- goto line doesn't seem to work (if patch isn't currently included with d/l)
- iconise all windows command in Window menu
- Goto sel in top level Search menu instead of its own Search-Goto-Goto 
menu.  This to make the goto command easier to get to.
- multiple bookmarks (at least 10), with its own bookmarks menu, instead of 
just the one bookamark in the Search-Goto menu.
- a version of SN with compiled executable tcl/tk files instead of the 
interpreted format for improved execution speed (if not already done).
- and last but not least, reduced memory usage if possible


>I'd like to improve on Source Navigator. I've read up on tcl/tk and [incr 
>tcl/tk], but now I'm at a loss on how you debug the running application. 
>I'm having trouble following the state variables of the megawidgets, and 
>I'd really like to be able to set break points in the tcl/tk code and 
>examine objects.
>
>Any help would be appreciated. My goal is to provide fixes to the source, 
>and add an optional new editor keybindings configuration file (wordstar to 
>start with).


From leftspin@hotmail.com  Wed Dec 12 18:06:00 2001
From: leftspin@hotmail.com (Left Spin)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:06:00 -0000
Subject: Debugging SourceNavigator
Message-ID: <F259qkhqntKrUV0hCLw00001ec6@hotmail.com>

Yeah, those would be nice. So far, I've only been able to change simple 
things like changing the default symbol browser combo box to check only 
Functions, and change some key bindings.


>From: Mike Fahlbusch <mcf@cobweb.com.au>
>To: sourcenav@sources.redhat.com
>CC: "Left Spin" <leftspin@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Debugging SourceNavigator
>Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:21:10 +1030
>
>At 01:19 AM 12/13/01 +0000, you wrote:
>
>Here is my wish list:
>
>- HTML help files included with binary
>- list of array variables in menu Symbols-View-Variables
>- goto line doesn't seem to work (if patch isn't currently included with 
>d/l)
>- iconise all windows command in Window menu
>- Goto sel in top level Search menu instead of its own Search-Goto-Goto
>menu.  This to make the goto command easier to get to.
>- multiple bookmarks (at least 10), with its own bookmarks menu, instead of
>just the one bookamark in the Search-Goto menu.
>- a version of SN with compiled executable tcl/tk files instead of the
>interpreted format for improved execution speed (if not already done).
>- and last but not least, reduced memory usage if possible
>
>
>>I'd like to improve on Source Navigator. I've read up on tcl/tk and [incr
>>tcl/tk], but now I'm at a loss on how you debug the running application.
>>I'm having trouble following the state variables of the megawidgets, and
>>I'd really like to be able to set break points in the tcl/tk code and
>>examine objects.
>>
>>Any help would be appreciated. My goal is to provide fixes to the source,
>>and add an optional new editor keybindings configuration file (wordstar to
>>start with).
>




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From jazzman@bayarea.net  Wed Dec 12 22:52:00 2001
From: jazzman@bayarea.net (Syd Polk)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 22:52:00 -0000
Subject: Debugging SourceNavigator
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011213120931.00aad080@mail.chariot.net.au>
Message-ID: <3C184FB1.D481BC77@bayarea.net>

Mike Fahlbusch wrote:
> 
> At 01:19 AM 12/13/01 +0000, you wrote:
> 
> Here is my wish list:
> 
> - HTML help files included with binary

They should be there, actually. They should end up in share/doc/html or
some such place.

> - list of array variables in menu Symbols-View-Variables
> - goto line doesn't seem to work (if patch isn't currently included with d/l)
> - iconise all windows command in Window menu
> - Goto sel in top level Search menu instead of its own Search-Goto-Goto
> menu.  This to make the goto command easier to get to.
> - multiple bookmarks (at least 10), with its own bookmarks menu, instead of
> just the one bookamark in the Search-Goto menu.
> - a version of SN with compiled executable tcl/tk files instead of the
> interpreted format for improved execution speed (if not already done).

Unlikely. Tcl/Tk is much faster now than it used to be. Most of the
slowdowns are in questionable coding practices in the tcl code or the
extensions that were written for SN. We did not have time to fix them
all.

> - and last but not least, reduced memory usage if possible

Difficult at best. SN has a lot of info sitting around.
 
> >I'd like to improve on Source Navigator. I've read up on tcl/tk and [incr
> >tcl/tk], but now I'm at a loss on how you debug the running application.

There is no good way to step SN through a debugger. I would investigate
setting the SN_DEBUG variable and using the logging. I have also spent
time actually in gdb with the C code for the Tcl interpreter figuring
out problems.

> >I'm having trouble following the state variables of the megawidgets, and
> >I'd really like to be able to set break points in the tcl/tk code and
> >examine objects.

One thing you can do is launch the console, load the SN part, and then
selectively replace the pieces you need. tk is a dynamic coding
environment, and you should be able to take advantage of that.

> >Any help would be appreciated. My goal is to provide fixes to the source,
> >and add an optional new editor keybindings configuration file (wordstar to
> >start with).

Good luck to you.


From jameshq@liverpool.ac.uk  Fri Dec 14 07:27:00 2001
From: jameshq@liverpool.ac.uk (HuangQiang)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 07:27:00 -0000
Subject: Can't build the application
Message-ID: <KIEBICHBADHFCLGCKOPDIEEGCKAA.jameshq@liv.ac.uk>

I tried to build the application using SN, I got the error message output:

gcc -o hello.exe
gcc: No input files
make: ***[hello.exe] Error 1
++++End++++


Detail:
OS: win2000
cygwin
SN 5.0

hello.c:    void main(void){ printf("Hello World!");}
hello project

I tried the gcc -o hello.exe in the cygwin it also told me there is some
input file needed. The correct form should be like:
gcc hello.c -o hello.exe ( why the SN generate such command: gcc -o
hello.exe ?)

Thanks for your help

Best regards!

james


From support@internetdiscovery.com  Fri Dec 14 09:25:00 2001
From: support@internetdiscovery.com (Mike Clarkson)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 09:25:00 -0000
Subject: Debugging SourceNavigator
References: <F1359isZ24dsPkskqed00001d79@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20011214092227.008fb2e0@popd.ix.netcom.com>

At 01:18 AM 12/13/01 +0000, you wrote:
>I'd like to improve on Source Navigator. I've read up on tcl/tk and [incr 
>tcl/tk], but now I'm at a loss on how you debug the running application. I'm 
>having trouble following the state variables of the megawidgets, and I'd 
>really like to be able to set break points in the tcl/tk code and examine 
>objects.

There's a very good debugger/inspector for Tcl/Tk/Tix called TixInspect,
which has a basic but fairly useful debugger built into it. The inspector
lets you see
everything, and modify things on the fly - it's very powerful. Look at

	http://tix.sourceforge.net/Tixapps

To use SN with TixInspect under Unix, you'll have to comply with Tk's
semi-rigorous demands for Xauth authentication and no xhosts, or recompile the
tk dynamic library with this turned off. In the Makefile for tk, look for

# To turn off the security checks that disallow incoming sends when
# the X server appears to be insecure, reverse the comments on the
# following lines:
SECURITY_FLAGS = 
#SECURITY_FLAGS = -DTK_NO_SECURITY

Then in the SN code, if it's not already there, add the following line;

	tk appname "SN#[winfo id .]"

To use SN with TixInspect under Windows, you'll have make sure the 
Tcl tcldde83.dll is available either in the directory with with the tcl83.dll
or in lib/tcl8.3/dde1.0 (replace 83 with whatever verion of Tcl you're using).

Then in the SN code, if it's not already there, add the following lines;

	package require dde
	dde servername "SN#[winfo id .]"

>Any help would be appreciated. My goal is to provide fixes to the source, 
>and add an optional new editor keybindings configuration file (wordstar to 
>start with).

TixInspect is the revised updated version of the time-honoured Tkinspect,
and is built for Tix applications such as SN. OTOH, if I had of known you
were going to use it for adding Wordstar bindings, I would never have
released it:-)

Mike.


From aprea@science.unitn.it  Fri Dec 14 09:34:00 2001
From: aprea@science.unitn.it (Davide Aprea)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 09:34:00 -0000
Subject: Can't run project with SN 4.5.2 
Message-ID: <3C1A3845.2090000@science.unitn.it>

Hi,

I have some problems with the build command of SN4.5.2 for windows.
If I use the cygwin prompt without SN it's all right, when I use SN
I can't compile anything. I riceive message like
gcc: rm command not found
or
make: gcc not found

I modified the path variable in order to avoid the use of microsoft's 
make.exe file.

Is it a problem of this SN version, or anything else?

Thanks a lot
Davide

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From Rainer.Brestan@sea.ericsson.se  Fri Dec 14 09:37:00 2001
From: Rainer.Brestan@sea.ericsson.se (Rainer Brestan (SEA))
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 09:37:00 -0000
Subject: SN 5.0 and ClearCase integration
Message-ID: <F0F5F5C6F71AD5119D380008C75DA44CC1324A@eatvint902>

When i try to use the ClearCase (i am using 4.2 on Solaris 8) integration of SN 5.0, it dont really work.

If i want to checkout something, SN crashes with a segmentation fault.
The history has space lines in it, no symbolic tags are displayed, and so on...

I also found no way to tell SN that read only files shouldn????t be modified. It shows me a warning windows, but after that i can change the file.

Has anyone successfull integrated SN 5.0 with ClearCase 4 versions ?
Is there a way to tell SN, when a file is checked in and i want to change it, that it presents me a dialog, if i would check the file out ?

Thanks, Rainer


From bill_brune@ltx.com  Fri Dec 14 09:53:00 2001
From: bill_brune@ltx.com (Bill Brune)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 09:53:00 -0000
Subject: SN 5.0 and ClearCase integration
References: <F0F5F5C6F71AD5119D380008C75DA44CC1324A@eatvint902>
Message-ID: <3C1A3C38.B12F2EAC@ltx.com>

Hi,

Yes, I ran into that problem also.  I fixed up my version of SN to work with clearcase.    There are fixes to
do in the TCL code that handles revision control, and fixes to the revision control command lines in the configuration file.
Sorry I can't give you any more details right now,  I don't remember all the details.

-Bill


"Rainer Brestan (SEA)" wrote:

> When i try to use the ClearCase (i am using 4.2 on Solaris 8) integration of SN 5.0, it dont really work.
>
> If i want to checkout something, SN crashes with a segmentation fault.
> The history has space lines in it, no symbolic tags are displayed, and so on...
>
> I also found no way to tell SN that read only files shouldn????t be modified. It shows me a warning windows, but after that i can change the file.
>
> Has anyone successfull integrated SN 5.0 with ClearCase 4 versions ?
> Is there a way to tell SN, when a file is checked in and i want to change it, that it presents me a dialog, if i would check the file out ?
>
> Thanks, Rainer


From support@internetdiscovery.com  Fri Dec 14 11:14:00 2001
From: support@internetdiscovery.com (Mike Clarkson)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:14:00 -0000
Subject: Debugging SourceNavigator
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011213120931.00aad080@mail.chariot.net.au> <3C184FB1.D481BC77@bayarea.net>
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20011214110857.008fd1a0@popd.ix.netcom.com>

At 10:50 PM 12/12/01 -0800, Syd Polk wrote:
>
>
>Mike Fahlbusch wrote:
> 
>> >I'd like to improve on Source Navigator. I've read up on tcl/tk and [incr
>> >tcl/tk], but now I'm at a loss on how you debug the running application.
>
>There is no good way to step SN through a debugger. I would investigate
>setting the SN_DEBUG variable and using the logging. I have also spent
>time actually in gdb with the C code for the Tcl interpreter figuring
>out problems.

With Tixinspect you are debugging the run-time program by connecting to it
with Tk's send mechanism. After making the SN interpreter "visible" to send
by doing the steps I outlined previously, use File/Select Interpreter/
and look for the interpreter named SN#xxxx where xxxx is the window id.

>> >I'm having trouble following the state variables of the megawidgets, and
>> >I'd really like to be able to set break points in the tcl/tk code and
>> >examine objects.
>
>One thing you can do is launch the console, load the SN part, and then
>selectively replace the pieces you need. tk is a dynamic coding
>environment, and you should be able to take advantage of that.

With Tixinspect use Tcl/TixDebug to bring up the debugger, then click on
Refresh. It takes advantage of the fact that tk is a dynamic coding
environment, and selectively replace the pieces you choose with instrumented
procedures that activate the debugger. You can set breakpoints, or step
through procedures.

Mike.


From peter@ics.com  Wed Dec 19 14:53:00 2001
From: peter@ics.com (peter winston)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:53:00 -0000
Subject: source navigator license
Message-ID: <005101c188df$652b36e0$4bb770d8@ics.com>

Hi,


I'm trying to find out if there is on-going work on source navigator.

If not, I would like to acquire a non-GPL license.  who would I talk to
about this.


thanks

-peter winston


From khamis@gmx.de  Wed Dec 19 15:27:00 2001
From: khamis@gmx.de (Khamis Abuelkomboz)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:27:00 -0000
Subject: Add-On: Word Completion
Message-ID: <000b01c188e4$eccaf6d0$897ba8c0@power>

Hi All,
????
For more information see http://oimanager.de/sn.htm
????
Text/Word completion
Today every second hand developing application 
supports keyword completion, when hitting something like Shift-Space (why not 
Source-Navigator). Since I got a good idea to realize this in Source-Navigator I 
decided to just implement it and the result is cool. 
Just now it is not integreted in Source-Navigator 
and it is provided as Add-On. 
???? 

  
  
    
    
      Screen-Shot
  
    
    
      Download and Installation
You need to download the following 
files????
rc.tcl and CompleteWord.tcl
and put them into your Source-Navigator 
Profile directory . This is on

  
  
    Windows:
    %USERPROFILE%/.sn
  
    UNIX:
    $HOME/.sn
You need also to download the file
bindings.tcl and place it 
into <SN>/share/sourcenav/gui .
This copy fixes a problem in the search module of 
the treetable, when Num Lock is on (propably Windows only).
????

  
  
    
    
      That's all, just restart Source-Navigator 
      and hit Shift-Space on any 
    word
  
    
    
      any recommandation or feedbacks are wormly 
      welcomed.
????
Have fun
Khamis
????



From khamis2@t-online.de  Wed Dec 19 15:31:00 2001
From: khamis2@t-online.de (Khamis Abuelkomboz)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:31:00 -0000
Subject: Add-On: Word Completion
Message-ID: <002b01c188e5$31808880$897ba8c0@power>

Hi All,
????
For more information see http://oimanager.de/sn.htm
????
Text/Word completion 
Today every second hand developing application 
supports keyword completion, when hitting something like Shift-Space (why not 
Source-Navigator). Since I got a good idea to realize this in Source-Navigator I 
decided to just implement it and the result is cool. 
Just now it is not integreted in Source-Navigator 
and it is provided as Add-On. 
???? 

  
  
    
    
      Screen-Shot
  
    
    
      Download and Installation
You need to download the following 
files????
rc.tcl and CompleteWord.tcl
and put them into your Source-Navigator 
Profile directory . This is on

  
  
    Windows:
    %USERPROFILE%/.sn
  
    UNIX:
    $HOME/.sn
You need also to download the file
bindings.tcl and place it 
into <SN>/share/sourcenav/gui .
This copy fixes a problem in the search module of 
the treetable, when Num Lock is on (propably Windows only).
????

  
  
    
    
      That's all, just restart Source-Navigator 
      and hit Shift-Space on any 
    word
  
    
    
      any recommandation or feedbacks are wormly 
      welcomed.
????
Have fun
Khamis
????



From khamis2@t-online.de  Wed Dec 19 15:42:00 2001
From: khamis2@t-online.de (Khamis Abuelkomboz)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:42:00 -0000
Subject: source navigator license
References: <005101c188df$652b36e0$4bb770d8@ics.com>
Message-ID: <3C2125B5.9030307@t-online.de>

peter winston wrote:

>
>Hi,
>
>
>I'm trying to find out if there is on-going work on source navigator.
>
Just now the work on SN is 'officially' frozen but Ian Roxborough is 
doing good work
(in his free time) to get a next better release of Source-Navigator. My 
self is also doing
some stuff, but generally functionality that just fails in SN 
(extensions), like new parsers
or 'must to be fixed' bugs.

>
>If not, I would like to acquire a non-GPL license.  who would I talk to
>about this.
>
As you mentioned Source-Navigator is GPLed (no licenses can be bought). 
But if you really want to
pay money you can order the Package GNUPro XXL.

Just download it and be happy if you find things good in it and don't be 
frostrated
when something doesn't go well as you like. Just hope that you will get 
the next release soon :-)

Khamis

>
>thanks
>
>-peter winston
>
>



From davenportosan@yahoo.com  Wed Dec 19 16:45:00 2001
From: davenportosan@yahoo.com (Daven Portosan)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:45:00 -0000
Subject: source navigator license
Message-ID: <20011220004436.87042.qmail@web13509.mail.yahoo.com>

I don't think he is asking as a user.

I'm guessing Peter would like to get a non-GPL license

so he can sell it as part of a proprietary product.
Maybe integrate it with something else or add some
application specific extentions.

It's an interesting idea, let us know if you get
Red Hat to do it.

-----Original Message-----
From: sourcenav-owner@sources.redhat.com
[ mailto:sourcenav-owner@sources.redhat.com]On Behalf
Of Khamis
Abuelkomboz
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:42 PM
To: peter@ics.com
Cc: sourcenav@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: source navigator license


peter winston wrote:

>
>Hi,
>
>
>I'm trying to find out if there is on-going work on
source navigator.
>
Just now the work on SN is 'officially' frozen but Ian
Roxborough is 
doing good work
(in his free time) to get a next better release of
Source-Navigator. My 
self is also doing
some stuff, but generally functionality that just
fails in SN 
(extensions), like new parsers
or 'must to be fixed' bugs.

>
>If not, I would like to acquire a non-GPL license. 
who would I talk 
to
>about this.
>
As you mentioned Source-Navigator is GPLed (no
licenses can be bought). 
But if you really want to
pay money you can order the Package GNUPro XXL.

Just download it and be happy if you find things good
in it and don't 
be 
frostrated
when something doesn't go well as you like. Just hope
that you will get 
the next release soon :-)

Khamis

>
>thanks
>
>-peter winston
>
>


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From William.Gacquer@laposte.net  Thu Dec 20 11:40:00 2001
From: William.Gacquer@laposte.net (William Gacquer)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:40:00 -0000
Subject: Add-On: Word Completion
References: <000b01c188e4$eccaf6d0$897ba8c0@power>
Message-ID: <3C223E42.9070407@laposte.net>

Let me tell you that you should be honored for that piece of code. I 
expected it for so long!

THANKS!
William

Khamis Abuelkomboz wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>  
>
> For more information see http://oimanager.de/sn.htm
>
>  
>
> Text/Word completion
>
> Today every second hand developing application supports keyword 
> completion, when hitting something like Shift-Space (why not 
> Source-Navigator). Since I got a good idea to realize this in 
> Source-Navigator I decided to just implement it and the result is cool.
>
> Just now it is not integreted in Source-Navigator and it is provided 
> as Add-On.
>
>  
> < cid:part1.02080504.02090908@netscape.com >
>
> * Screen-Shot < http://oimanager.de/sn/CompleteWord.jpg > *
>
> < cid:part2.04040903.09050208@netscape.com >
>
> * Download and Installation*
>
> You need to download the following files 
>
> rc.tcl < http://oimanager.de/sn/gui/rc.tcl > and CompleteWord.tcl 
> < http://oimanager.de/sn/gui/CompleteWord.tcl >
>
> and put them into your Source-Navigator *Profile directory*. This is on
>
> Windows: *%USERPROFILE%/.sn*
> UNIX: *$HOME/.sn*
>
> You need also to download the file
>
> bindings.tcl < http://oimanager.de/sn/gui/bindings.tcl > and place it 
> into *<SN>/share/sourcenav/gui*.
>
> This copy fixes a problem in the search module of the treetable, when 
> *Num Lock* is on (propably Windows only).
>
>  
>
> < cid:part3.03010507.02030404@netscape.com >
>
> That's all, just restart Source-Navigator and hit Shift-Space on any word
>
> < cid:part4.01080808.07030108@netscape.com >
>
> any recommandation or feedbacks are wormly welcomed.
>
>  
>
> Have fun
>
> Khamis
>
>  
>


From tshead@k-3d.com  Thu Dec 20 20:07:00 2001
From: tshead@k-3d.com (Timothy M. Shead)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 20:07:00 -0000
Subject: SN 5.0 Patch: standard C++ keywords
Message-ID: <1008907334.2819.5.camel@kathy>

Gang:

The enclosed patch updates SN5.0.0 highlighting to conform to the
complete set of C++ keywords defined in ISO/IEC 14882-1998, Table 3. 
Specifically, it:

* Adds dynamic_cast, explicit, export, false, mutable, true, typeid,
typename, and wchar_t

* Removes interface and overload

Comments welcome,
Timothy M. Shead





From tshead@k-3d.com  Thu Dec 20 20:09:00 2001
From: tshead@k-3d.com (Timothy M. Shead)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 20:09:00 -0000
Subject: SN 5.0 Patch: standard C++ keywords, take 2
Message-ID: <1008907443.29604.9.camel@kathy>

Gang:

The enclosed patch updates SN5.0.0 highlighting to conform to the
complete set of C++ keywords defined in ISO/IEC 14882-1998, Table 3. 
Specifically, it:

* Adds dynamic_cast, explicit, export, false, mutable, true, typeid,
typename, and wchar_t

* Removes interface and overload

Comments welcome,
Timothy M. Shead




From tshead@k-3d.com  Thu Dec 20 20:10:00 2001
From: tshead@k-3d.com (Timothy M. Shead)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 20:10:00 -0000
Subject: SN5.0 Patch: compiling under gcc 3.0
Message-ID: <1008907524.2819.11.camel@kathy>

Enclosed (for real) is a patch to get SN5.0 to compile under gcc 3.0



From dieter.braisch@nexgo.de  Mon Dec 24 02:38:00 2001
From: dieter.braisch@nexgo.de (dieter.braisch@nexgo.de)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 02:38:00 -0000
Subject: Can't build the application 
Message-ID: <20011224.10352479@mis.configured.host>

Hallo SN users,

I find the SN a very good tool for programming and developping with 
C/C++.
I have used it firstly under Linux and it works very fine.
Then I've downloaded the newest cygwin 1.3.6 and SN 5.0 and tried to use 
it on Win2000. This task wasn't so easy.
I got the same problem with the global path.
Gcc, g++ and make .. no problem from cygwin-bash-shell and win-cmd-shell
But not visible from SN!
Then, uninstall Cygwin.
I tried an older cygwin 1.3.2 download, and voila, the problem is fixed.

Now, I work with the older cygwin.
Please tell me, if you can confirm this approach. 
Or did I a mistake under cygwin 1.3.6?
I havn't tried cygwin 1.3.3 .. 1.3.5 yet.

Merry Christmas and a happy new year 2002 to all of you
Dieter


From irox@redhat.com  Mon Dec 24 12:53:00 2001
From: irox@redhat.com (Ian Roxborough)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 12:53:00 -0000
Subject: Can't build the application
References: <20011224.10352479@mis.configured.host>
Message-ID: <20011224124646.406c933b.irox@redhat.com>

Hi,

On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 10:35:24 GMT <dieter.braisch@nexgo.de> wrote:
>
> Hallo SN users,
> 
> I find the SN a very good tool for programming and developping with 
> C/C++.
> I have used it firstly under Linux and it works very fine.
> Then I've downloaded the newest cygwin 1.3.6 and SN 5.0 and tried to use 
> it on Win2000. This task wasn't so easy.
> I got the same problem with the global path.
> Gcc, g++ and make .. no problem from cygwin-bash-shell and win-cmd-shell
> But not visible from SN!

This is a problem many people have reported.

> Then, uninstall Cygwin.
> I tried an older cygwin 1.3.2 download, and voila, the problem is fixed.

Ah! thanks for the information on how to work around the problem.
This is the same version of cygwin I've been using.  Which is
maybe why I couldn't reproduce the problem.

> Now, I work with the older cygwin.
> Please tell me, if you can confirm this approach. 
> Or did I a mistake under cygwin 1.3.6?

Where all the people who where having this problem
running cygwin version 1.3.6? (please speakup so
I can narrow down how much I have to do to fix
the problem..)

> I havn't tried cygwin 1.3.3 .. 1.3.5 yet.

Can any one else comment of these versions?
(Maybe this is a cygwin bug?)


Happy holidays,

  Ian,


From rdparker@butlermfg.com  Thu Dec 27 09:28:00 2001
From: rdparker@butlermfg.com (Parker, Ron)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:28:00 -0000
Subject: Bold Text in Hierarchy Browser
Message-ID: <E94FF01DFF6CD31186F4080009DC361503E88508@nttwr2.tower.bldgs.butlermfg.org>

I have been using Source-Navigator and greatly appreciate the work that has
been put into it. Thanks one and all.

Why are some classes in the hierarchy browser shown in bold and others are
not?

If you know, please respond directly to me and to the list since I am not a
subscriber, but I did try to find it in the archives.


From khamis2@t-online.de  Thu Dec 27 15:44:00 2001
From: khamis2@t-online.de (Khamis Abuelkomboz)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 15:44:00 -0000
Subject: Bold Text in Hierarchy Browser
References: <E94FF01DFF6CD31186F4080009DC361503E88508@nttwr2.tower.bldgs.butlermfg.org>
Message-ID: <3C2BB299.1050005@t-online.de>

Parker, Ron wrote:

>I have been using Source-Navigator and greatly appreciate the work that has
>been put into it. Thanks one and all.
>
>Why are some classes in the hierarchy browser shown in bold and others are
>not?
>
>If you know, please respond directly to me and to the list since I am not a
>subscriber, but I did try to find it in the archives.
>
the bold classes contain virtual members!