Fosdem Summary (Re: CTI - Making a decision for glibc.)

[Siddhesh Poyarekar]

On 2026-02-02 12:15, DJ Delorie wrote:
> Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@gotplt.org> writes:
>> On 2026-02-02 09:38, Mark Wielaard wrote:
>>> were fine and they had seen these ideas before. Since there was no
>>> real plan for any transition, it would probably all go away anyway
>>> (for better or worse). Some felt their voice didn't count because they
>>
>> There's a lot to unpack in what you've written and I can't engage with
>> it all right now, but really, please stop saying this.  The original
>> email is quite clear in its intent, backed publicly by a significant
>> number of GNU toolchain contributors and maintainers and you constantly
>> misrepresenting the situation is not helping things at all.
> 
> Please assume good intent here.  I read mjw's comment as "some people
> think that since there was no real plan...", which is a perfectly valid
> thing to report on.

I agree it's a valid thing to report on, but that has been repeated 
enough in this thread despite constant clarification to the contrary.

> And while you say intents are clear, I'm one of the doubters.  Folks
> have been "clear on intent" for years now, but it's all behind the
> scenes and so far nothing has come of it.  From the point of view of the
> regular contributors, all we see is two sides saying "our side is better
> and we're doing things our way" but such anti-discussions do not
> generate trust and confidence that something useful will happen.

I get that, and I agree that we share some of the blame for not being 
communicative enough (on my own part it's been mostly to spare myself 
the stress of these engagements since Mark rightly pointed out, they can 
be quite draining), but I thought the responses to this thread (we've 
worked *very* hard to get people at the table this time and not wait at 
the sidelines for something to happen) would have ended this speculation.

We've got the open office hours every Friday and we're trying to ensure 
that we continue the engagement this time, even if just to say that hey, 
this is on track and we're slowly getting closer to it.

Maybe I should have a cron job send out an email every fortnight with a 
reminder that we're doing this :)

Sid