Updating Italian libc translation for ESTALE in glibc

Federico Bruni fede@inventati.org
Tue Apr 18 20:39:55 GMT 2023



Il giorno mar 18 apr 2023 alle 09:42:41 -0400, Carlos O'Donell 
<carlos@redhat.com> ha scritto:
> On 4/17/23 17:15, Federico Bruni wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>  Il giorno lun 17 apr 2023 alle 22:46:35 +0200, Daniele Forsi 
>> <dforsi@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>  Hello Carlos,
>>> 
>>>>   I have an Italian translation for ESTALE that could be used.
>>> 
>>>  the translations that you quoted are wrong because they are
>>>  translating "handle" as "handling"
>>>>   msgstr "Gestione del file NFS interrotta"
>>>>   msgstr "Gestione file obsoleti"
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  the word "handle" is difficult to translate in this context and I
>>>  don't know a translation for "stale" in this context better than 
>>> the
>>>  one in RHEL6 and RHEL7, however I would use a singular form, so I
>>>  suggest:
>>>  msgid "Stale file handle"
>>>  msgstr "Handle di file obsoleto"
>>> 
>>>  I found some hits on search engines for "handle di file" but none 
>>> for
>>>  "handle di file obsoleto"
>>> 
>> 
>>  I think "handle" should be translated.
>>  There's no Italian translation in Wikipedia:
>>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handle_(computing)
>> 
>>  As it's described as an abstract reference to a resource (a file), 
>> I would use the translation of reference, that is:
>> 
>>  "Riferimento obsoleto al file"
> 
> I prefer the first (at least my Argentine brain says it sounds better 
> ;-)).
> 

Yes, I prefer the first as well.
Daniele, what do you think?


>>  "Riferimento al file obsoleto"
>> 
>>  Which one sounds better?
>>  The handle is stale (not the file), right?
> 
> Correct, the inode/handle/descriptor is stale, not the file.
> 
> The process can reopen the file to refresh the handle.
> 
> It would be great to get a translation for this for libc, since 
> ESTALE is
> an important error return for filesystem access functions.
> 
> Is there anything I can do to support adding a translation for 
> Italian?
> 

The translation is managed by the Translation Project?
This one?
https://translationproject.org/domain/libc.html

I see now that the assigned translator Sergio is here in Cc.






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