[PATCH] Revert Abortion joke removal.

[Alexandre Oliva]

On May 10, 2018, "Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 05/10/2018 12:41 AM, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
>> On May 10, 2018, "Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> In a community, particularly a community one contributes to actively,
>>> and is involved in on day-to-day functioning.
>> 
>> Hey, Torvald, you might want to complain about the snarky remark above,
>> in addition to my present response ;-)

> Sorry, I didn't intend it to be snarky, just instructive. I see how it
> might be perceived that way by you though. Sorry about that.

Then I, in turn, apologize for misunderstanding your intent (I must say
I was surprised indeed to see that coming from you :-), and for
returning in (perceived) kind what you did not deserve.

>> Unless you want to pretend that we really had consensus, and all the
>> debate that ensued was just violent agreement.

> I don't follow. Are you making a joke here?

Yeah, the "pretend" and the "violent agreement" were meant as humorous,
to soften my opposite opinion and understanding of the situation.

Despite the (ambiguous, I guess from your question) attempt at humor, I
really meant that whatever apparent consensus there was was not real:
there's no doubt that there were objections that hadn't been posted
quickly enough (Richard's came in shortly after the patch made it), and
the ongoing discussion is more than proof that there really was no
consensus in the usual sense.  I acknowledge, however, that,
disregarding enough stuff for various reasons, one might have concluded
that there was consensus, but that conclusion, even if apparently
correct, would be a mistake, given the subsequent debate.  That was not
the only mistake in the process that led to the installation of the
patch.  But that's ok.  Those mistakes are now fixed, and we can focus
on the upcoming release, and then get the consensus-seeking process on
this issue back underway.

Thanks a lot for suggesting the cool down period, BTW.  Really
appreciated.  Until the consensus-building efforts are restarted, I
won't post to the list messages about the debates on the removal of the
joke, or about restoring the initial conditions while the debate plays
out. or even about the process issues around them.  I guess a reasonable
exception to that might be further posts about my suggestions for
improvement of the consensus-building process, but even that, I'll only
post if prompted to do so, and entirely outside the context of the
aforementioned debates.

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