Release timelines: 2.15.1 and 2.16

[Andreas Jaeger]

On 04/13/2012 10:00 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Andreas Jaeger<aj@suse.com>  wrote:
>> On 04/13/2012 09:48 PM, Jeff Law wrote:
>>>
>>> On 04/13/2012 01:36 PM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In the past Fedora was following git head and testing it heavily - and
>>>> thus make a release for Fedora was a win-win for both Fedora and glibc.
>>>> I think Fedora is not doing this anymore, so we're not bound here
>>>> anymore.
>>>
>>> Not exactly :( Merges were going from upstream GIT into the Fedora beta
>>> trees, which caused *major* headaches. At the same time merges from GIT
>>> to Fedora Rawhide were not occurring. It was the worst of both worlds.
>>
>>
>> ;-(
>>
>>
>>> In the new world order (F17 and beyond), we're going to be locking down
>>> glibc from major changes earlier in the development cycle. It's not
>>> formalized, but I'd expect to stop doing major glibc changes for any
>>> particular Fedora release once that release branches.
>>
>>
>> So, a glibc major release at the *beginning* of the Fedora 17 release cycle
>> with a minor release more at the end, would be perfect for you? This means
>> the minor release would benefit from the Fedora testing, correct?
>
> Fedora 17 is already at Beta (it will release next week).  Do you mean F18?

I meant "at the beginning of a Fedora release cycle - and therefore F18 
would be the indeed the right reference.

>>> Merges from upstream GIT to Fedora Rawhide should occur more rapidly
>>> than they are right now. It's a known problem, but hasn't bubbled up far
>>> enough yet.
>>
>>
>> Please help me to understand this a bit better:
>> Would have glibc git head in Rawhide and the latest glibc release in Fedora?
>> I thought Rawhide was closer to Fedora...
>
> Rawhide is Fedora.  It is simply the main development branch of Fedora.  Think
> "as bleeding edge as you can get in Fedora".  Our release branches (e.g. F16,
> F17, F18) all were rawhide at some point and then branched off to stabilize.
> Right now, rawhide is what will become F18 eventually.

So, what Jeff is saying is that the merges happened to late in the 
release cycle - not to Rawhide but when it was already branched off to 
stabilize?

Andreas
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