Latest Glibc from CVS has segmentation problems.

Scott Lamb slamb@slamb.org
Sun Mar 7 20:47:00 GMT 2004


On Mar 7, 2004, at 1:26 PM, Ulrich Drepper wrote:
> 8.  Cries like "then at least document what is needed" fall into the
>     same category.  First, it is something which is not necessary to 
> get
>     glibc going for 95% of all people (those using a distribution).
>     Second, you have no right to decide how I spend my time.  If you
>     want something done there are only two ways: do it yourself, or
>     pay somebody to do it.  Documenting the exact requirements is
>     a futile job since it might change daily.  The matrix of
>     architectures cross tools cross OS version is too large.

[...]

> 10. If you've done that and you feel like documenting it, write it up,
>     post it to some website, and send a reference to the list.  You'll
>     see how much time it takes to keep this up-to-date and answering 
> all
>     questions.  I regard my time as far too precious to do this and a
>     disservice to almost all users since every second I spent answering
>     emails about installation issues or writing detailed docs about how
>     to do it is time I cannot spend on fixing bugs, reviewing patches,
>     or develop improvements.

It seems to me that your attitude has significantly changed since 
portions of INSTALL were written, like this one:

"   There are probably bugs in the GNU C library.  There are certainly
errors and omissions in this manual.  If you report them, they will get
fixed.  If you don't, no one will ever know about them and they will
remain unfixed for all eternity, if not longer."

It seems that such reports of errors and omissions in INSTALL are no 
longer welcome. In fact, I almost wonder if the user community would be 
better served by replacing the entire contents of INSTALL with "Don't", 
possibly followed by "And if you absolutely must, copy what the 
distribution makers do."

As Marcus Brinkmann said earlier, "Frustration usually happens because 
of unfulfilled expectations." I wonder if the present contents of 
INSTALL are creating these expectations. Maybe if they were adjusted, 
you would find fewer distractions from your work.

Thanks,
Scott


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