make existing mips files multi-ABI

Nicholas Wourms nwourms@myrealbox.com
Fri Mar 14 20:53:00 GMT 2003


Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@redhat.com> writes:
[SNIP]
> 
>>How about letting the rest in, while I investigate what (if anything)
>>needs changing in these headers?
> 
> 
> Ok - but let's wait for Uli's comments first.
> Andreas

Who cares what Uli thinks?  He is not looking at this in an 
objective or rational manner.  He has already passed 
judgment and apparently will not listen to any reason.  I 
don't think he has the right to reject code on superfluous 
reasons such as he doesn't like the ABI or the way it looks. 
  At the very least, I'd like hear that someone else agrees 
with him based on his points.  I find that, in each 
objection, his comments are petulant and have no 
argumentative merit.  Alexandre has continued to make every 
effort to satisfy Uli, but it seems it is still not good 
enough for him.  Why can't he be a little more open to 
compromise?  This is, after all, not his project alone. 
Yes, I know that he made a significant amount of 
contributions to glibc2, but that doesn't mean he owns the 
code.  Instead of whining about the mips ABI and code 
readability, why not make reasonable, constructive 
suggestions on what he feels needs to be done?  Also, what 
is achieved by doing an implementation which is totally 
divergent from accepted standards (however broken he may 
feel they are)?  Isn't it a goal to be compliant with 
generally accepted platform standards?

I've been lurking on this list for awhile now, so I'm not 
just "trolling".  Also, I am not a glibc contributor, mostly 
because my plate is full in other areas.  However, as a user 
and supporter of glibc, I feel that I have the right to make 
my opinion known.  This is not my opinion alone, as I know 
many others who grow weary of Uli's arrogance and 
unwillingness to cooperate with contributors for other 
platforms which are not as popular as sparc*/ppc*/axp/x86* 
(his little tirade back at the beginning of January is 
case&point).  Doesn't the glibc homepage make it quite clear 
that one of the current goals/projects is to port glibc to 
other platforms/operating systems?  I see Alexandre's work 
as a step in that direction, in that it rounds out a port 
which has been, up until now, incomplete.  Am I wrong in 
this assumption?

Cheers,
Nicholas

( Flame away if you want, I don't care :-P )



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