MI non-stop mode spec
Pawel Piech
pawel.piech@windriver.com
Mon Mar 24 17:22:00 GMT 2008
Hi Nick,
Thank you for the reply. I'm still rather curious what you, Vladimir,
and anyone else think of the rest of my suggestions.
Nick Roberts wrote:
> > I don't fully understand why disabling CLI commands is desired, but I'm
> > guessing it's because the CLI commands would still rely on the current
> > thread. If so, then keeping the MI protocol stateful would hopefully
> > address that concern and not force you to disable the CLI interface,
> > which would be unfortunate.
>
> It's probably not desired but it's certainly more effort. Perhaps the customer
> in question can be persuaded of it's value: it's certainly important for any
> frontend that wants to keep the console. This still provides access to a lot
> of funtionality in GDB that hasn't yet been properly implemented in MI.
>
I think it would be a great disservice to GDB to disable the console.
Even though the console in the IDE is pretty broken for the reasons you
mention, a lot of our Eclipse users still value it greatly, so fixing
it's interaction with MI would actually be very good for GDB.
> Currently commands like -break-insert gives synchronous MI output for the
> frontend to parse while the CLI command "break" issued under MI,
> "-interpreter-exec console break", say, just gives CLI output. I think this is
> the wrong approach and that -break-insert shouldn't generate the output
> directly but instead MI should generate event notifications informing the
> frontend of changes:
>
> =breakpoints-changed,...
>
> This could be done with observers like Vladimir has done for threads and
> would produce the same notifications regardless of whether the breakpoint
> was created with a CLI or MI command.
>
> Likewise with the new commands for non-stop mode
Thank you for the explanation. I agree. Currently MI lacks out of band
notifications for thread state changes (it has a running event only),
thread lifecycle events, memory changed events, registers changed
events, modules changed events, and as you mention above breakpoints
changed events. Like I said, I'm not familiar with GDB internals, but
since CLI has notifications for most of these I can't imagine it would
be that hard to add them to MI.
One note about the =breakpoints-changed proposed above. I think it
would be a mistake to just replace the ^done reply to
-break-insert/-break-remove with an event alone, because a client would
have no way of knowing whether an event was in response to that client's
request or another client's request. I.e. a client would not be able to
positively determine the ID of the breakpoint he just created. I see
two equally good ways to address this:
1) Add the =breakpoints-changed event in addition to the ^done with
breakpoint info, but the =breakpoints-changed would have to be sent
AFTER the ^done reply.
2) Allow clients to specify their own arbitrary ID for a breakpoint,
with an option such as -client-id="abc". Then have the
=breakpoints-changed event and other query commands echo the client-id
along with the regular breakpoint ID.
Cheers,
Pawel
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