[ECOS] Hard-Realtime behaviour

R Vamshi Krishna vamshi@cse.iitb.ac.in
Sun Jun 18 23:46:00 GMT 2006


Thank you for the reply. But the fact remains that we would like to have a 
"Hard" real-time OS irrespective of the processor/speed and ram/rom.


Any help regarding hardening of eCos would be welcome.

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, John Carter wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, R Vamshi Krishna wrote:
>
>> Now this hard real-time OS would be for use in Safety-Critical Systems. We 
>> would port the kernel to MISRA-C later stage but currently we are stuck-up 
>> at "hardening" of eCos.
>
> Since currently most of the kernel seems to be C++, that wouldn't be
> "port", that would be "rewrite". ie. If MISRA-C for the kernel is a
> fixed requirement, you have lost right there.
>

My mistake. I indeed did mean re-write.

>> This guarantee I understand cannot be given by an RTOS alone. It is the 
>> combined guarantee by the application + RTOS. i.e. everything depends on 
>> the way the application was developed using the features of an RTOS.
>
> Comment 1: Ecos has met all hard deadline requirements on our app...
> Getting our code to behave has been way more problematical than Ecos.
>
> Comment 2: Given a choice of a "harder RTOS" than ecos, "misra-c"
> kernel, or a faster / smarter CPU with loads of Flash/RAM, I will take
> the faster smarter CPU.
>
> Headroom and flexibility are more important than "guarantees".
> Guarantees can be broken, but headroom lets you cope with any broken
> guarantees and a lot more besides.
>
> Comment 3: Most "hard to meet hard deadlines" I have seen have been the 
> result of
> hardware designers saying "lets skimp a bit and fix it in the software".
>
> So if you have a really hard hard to meet RT deadline, walk over to your
> hardware designers and talk to them about life, the universe, safety and
> trade offs.
>
>
>
>
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>
> Carter's Clarification of Murphy's Law.
>
> "Things only ever go right so that they may go more spectacularly wrong 
> later."
>
> From this principle, all of life and physics may be deduced.
>

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Regards,
Vamshi

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