How to keep a dependency from [continually] appearing in setup

Ryan Johnson
Thu Aug 2 14:02:00 GMT 2012

On 02/08/2012 9:18 AM, Ken Brown wrote:
> On 8/2/2012 5:14 AM, Adam Dinwoodie wrote:
>> Ken Brown wrote:
>>> On 8/1/2012 10:18 AM, Ryan Johnson wrote:
>>>> It can be argued that emacs-auctex should not pull in texlive. Most
>>>> users installing emacs-auctex will already have some flavor of tex in
>>>> place, and not necessarily the cygwin one (like the OP, or perhaps a
>>>> MikTex user). Plus, the error message is pretty intuitive and the
>>>> solution very simple, if latex is not there: "latex: no such command"
>>>> ==> "maybe I should install latex." Therefore, the expected aggregate
>>> There's more to it than that.  emacs-auctex installs stuff needed for
>>> its preview feature in /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/preview/. This won't
>>> be found by native texlive or by MikTeX.
>>>> frustration of users who installed auctex without latex available 
>>>> would
>>>> likely be far lower than the aggregate frustration of users wanting to
>>>> install auctex and getting saddled with an unwanted redundant texlive
>>>> distribution (for which there is no easy solution).
>>> Why is this so frustrating?  It doesn't do any harm (except waste a
>>> small amount of disk space) to install Cygwin's texlive in parallel 
>>> with
>>> native texlive.  Just make sure the bin directory of the latter 
>>> precedes
>>> /usr/bin in PATH.  I myself have both installed, since I sometimes find
>>> it useful for testing purposes to be able to switch from one to the
>>> other (by temporarily changing PATH).
>> I'd draw a parallel between the emacs-auctex's dependency on latex 
>> and libX11's
>> dependency on xorg-server: while xorg-server is certainly the 
>> preferred X
>> server for Cygwin, it's not the only option[0].
>> [0]:
> The situations aren't parallel.  Cygwin's libX11 will work with X 
> servers other than xorg-server.  But Cygwin's emacs-auctex, as I 
> explained above, will not work OOTB with tex installations other than 
> Cygwin's texlive.  The preview feature will be broken.
> Users who prefer a different tex installation and want to use auctex 
> should build and install auctex themselves.  During installation, 
> auctex will find the appropriate texmf tree and put its preview files 
> there.
Fair enough. I was just throwing the idea out there in case it made 
sense to the people who know what's going on. Sound like it doesn't make 
sense to remove that dependency.


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