"shouted down", "shot down", apologies
Sat Jun 30 12:39:00 GMT 2001
>>I wasn't the one interested in building Cygwin; I think that was John.
> You were apparently responding to my query as to why CVS checkout,
> configuring, and building were an apparent big deal here but not in
> other mailing lists.
The applicable quote was:
I guess the problem that I have with all of this is you almost never
see anyone in the gcc, or gdb projects professing that cvs checkout
and building to be a major obstacle. I don't know what is so different
This project seems to attract more "newbies". Maybe the "oldbies" are
all using linux and disdaining Windows.
I said in my initial message that you had said "somewhere in the thread",
because I couldn't find the message when I went looking for it, even though
I had just read it a few minutes before (I found the quote above in the
archives. I didn't look in the archives the other night because I had just
read the message in my email ten minutes before and thought I remembered it.
Goes to show what memory's good for at 2:00am). So, what I remembered of
your question was the *last* paragraph above, not the first one. Thus, I
was addressing the "more newbies" comment, not specifically the checking out
and building. So, by relying on memory, and not having your full quote in
front of me, I seized on the wrong statement. My apologies. I was
responding to the wrong question.
>>You may not say "use the source" when you know the answer, but many
> Ok, but you seemed to be accusing me, specifically, of being unhelpful.
I have no idea how you came to that conclusion, but it is incorrect. I have
just reviewed my entire message, and absolutely nowhere do I either
explicitly or implicitly accuse you of such, nor was that my intention, nor
was that my thought. In fact, I said the opposite -- that I agree with your
philosophy. I also said at the end that that one paragraph digression on
"community" wasn't even the reason I wrote, it was to respond to the
original question (which we've already established I mis-targeted).
Let me spell it out -- I appreciate you and the work you do a great deal. I
appreciate D.J. and Ernie and Charles and all the rest of the developers
with the skills to improve Cygwin from a code perspective, who work for
nothing. (I even agree with you *completely* about the zip thread <g>). I
appreciate it enough I *don't* ask questions here. I just lurk. Or I did
before my original message. I think I'll get back to that. The lurking
that is. My deepest sincere apologies to anyone else I've offended.
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