Blunt Tools (was: cgf does not want private email about cygwin)
Mon Jun 25 13:41:00 GMT 2001
> I really really do not view the act of telling other people how to help
> themselves as "shaming" them. I actually find that attitude both naive
> and frightening. Maybe that is just my conservative political leanings
> showing through.
I think it's all a matter of tone. There are a lot of different ways to
tell someone something.
> I'm wondering why you are involved in this discussion, then? What about
> it makes you think that it will not degenerate into some kind of rude
I'm trying to keep the tone elevated. As such, I'll cut it short, since
I've already made my point.
> don't see how setting up a newbie mailing list would help. Are you
> expecting new people to step forward to answer questions in exhaustive
I'm relatively new, and I would step forward if I didn't think my response
would be preempted by a URL. It takes some time to work up a decent
response. People who have recently solved a problem are usually excited
about it and want to share their knowledge, even if the problem is trivial.
> I would expect that if I set up a cygwin-newbies mailing list we'd just
> see a lot of cross posting between the two lists and it would actually
> end up just adding to the confusion.
Maybe so. The people who are burned out could ignore the cross-postings.
> Actually, the "here's what you should do" attitude is also something
> about this list that bothers me. You very very rarely see that turned
> around to either "What can *I* do?" or even "Here's what I can do".
> That's too bad.
I was more hinting that people shouldn't do things.
> I don't remember what the tone of the mailing list was like in 1997.
> All I know is that if I am using and enjoying something that I've gotten
> for free, I like to see if I can somehow return the favor in a sort of
> "pay it forward" type of scenario. I know that all of the actual
> contributors here are probably similarly motivated. And, nearly all
> of them are probably feeling the strain of the success that cygwin
> has been "suffering".
I've contributed some suggestions. I'm not expecting a tag in the source
for it. It's just something for consideration.
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