From arielmt@thornton2.com Fri Jul 1 03:27:00 2005 From: arielmt@thornton2.com (Ariel Millennium Thornton) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 03:27:00 -0000 Subject: logout from gnome-session over ssh In-Reply-To: <1120156533.4647.52.camel@chum21559> References: <1120156533.4647.52.camel@chum21559> Message-ID: <20050630212953.036bd596.arielmt@thornton2.com> Hello. This seems like a bug with ssh. I get the same thing ssh'ing from Linux to Linux and from Windows to Linux. The problem is that the ssh session won't end until every process started by it ends. If you're using ssh as the client command for starting the X server, one workaround is to log out normally, wait until only the persistent processes are running, then hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to kill the server. If someone knows the real solution, I'd like to know it too. What I present is only a workaround, not a solution. -ArielMT On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:35:33 -0400 Jerome Asselin wrote: > I want to be able to run gnome-session on a remote linux server from a > Windows XP workstation. I also want to have decent security, so I'm > trying to avoid using XDMCP. > > I've just installed cygwin, selecting these packages (and default > dependencies): openssh, vim, xorg-x11-base. > > >From a cygwin bash shell, I run these commands: > > Xwin & > export DISPLAY=:0 > ssh -Y remoteserver -l user gnome-session > > This works fine until I try to logout from gnome-session. Logging out > doesn't kill nautilus nor ssh (nor firefox). I have to manually kill > the ssh command to terminate the gnome-session. > > How can I make it so that I can cleanly logout from gnome-session? > > Thanks. > > -- > Jerome Asselin, Agent de recherche, RHCE > CHUM -- Centre de recherche > 3875 rue St-Urbain, 3e etage // Montreal QC H2W 1V1 > Tel.: 514-890-8000 Poste 15914; Fax: 514-412-7106 > > -- "The most humbling achievement of the past millennium, I believe, is the evolution of the simplest form of communication: the written letter. >From courier to post to telegram to fax to email, each advancement has made the awesome power of writing more accessible than ever before." -Ariel Millennium Thornton, Spokesman and Mascot, Thornton 2 Productions From polzin_spamprotect_@gmx.de Fri Jul 1 10:09:00 2005 From: polzin_spamprotect_@gmx.de (Tobias Polzin) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 10:09:00 -0000 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Spooky_Tooltips_after_Minimizing?= Message-ID: <26887.1120212507@www2.gmx.net> I just want to report another minor bug. It??s not really a problem, but perhaps it has something to do with the AltGr-Minimizing bug. After minimizing a window, "sometimes/rarely" the tooltips that where visibible in the window still appear on the pale windows desktop if the mouse is on a position where the tooltip would appear if the window woudn??t have been minimized. Unfortunately I cannot reproduce this behaviour, thus I can not figure out details. Regards, Tobias -- Weitersagen: GMX DSL-Flatrates mit Tempo-Garantie! Ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Jul 1 11:10:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 11:10:00 -0000 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Spooky_Tooltips_after_Minimizing?= In-Reply-To: <26887.1120212507@www2.gmx.net> References: <26887.1120212507@www2.gmx.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Tobias Polzin wrote: > I just want to report another minor bug. It??s not really a problem, but > perhaps it has something to do with the AltGr-Minimizing bug. > > After minimizing a window, "sometimes/rarely" the tooltips that where > visibible in the window still appear on the pale windows desktop if the > mouse is on a position where the tooltip would appear if the window woudn??t > have been minimized. This has already been reported. This happens becasue the xserver is notified about mouse movement even if the pointer is outside any visible window. I've not yet been able to track this completly down. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From doublon@free.fr Fri Jul 1 14:38:00 2005 From: doublon@free.fr (Doublon) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 14:38:00 -0000 Subject: Startx crashes while program running in xterm window Message-ID: <009901c57e4a$88653160$fa084f82@ustrasbg.fr> Hi: Startx crashes while program running in xterm window. Circumstances of crash: - Running xstart in a cygwin command window - Running homemade program GrafxDemo in the xterm window launched by startx - While GrafxDemo is running, crash occurs: xterm window closed, startx ends. See below Startx dialog and XWin.log file. Thank you, D. Oublon Startx dialog: ***************************** $ startx Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-2 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: X :0 -multiwindow -clipboard _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information (==) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ CID/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine - Multi Window or Rootless => ShadowGDI winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1280 height: 1024 depth: 32 winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 null screen fn ReparentWindow null screen fn RestackWindow InitQueue - Calling pthread_mutex_init InitQueue - pthread_mutex_init returned InitQueue - Calling pthread_cond_init InitQueue - pthread_cond_init returned winInitMultiWindowWM - Hello winInitMultiWindowWM - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Hello winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "0000040C" (0000040c) (--) Using preset keyboard for "French (Standard)" (40c), type "4" Rules = "xorg" Model = "pc105" Layout = "fr" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null)" (--) 8 mouse buttons found Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 640 512 winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_lock () returned. winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_lock () returned. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. winInitMultiWindowWM - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 cat: /home/Frechet/.Xauthority: No such file or directory winInitClipboard () winProcEstablishConnection - winInitClipboard returned. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winInitMultiWindowWM - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winClipboardProc - Hello DetectUnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP winClipboardProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winClipboardProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winProcSetSelectionOwner - Clipboard not yet started, aborting. winProcSetSelectionOwner - Clipboard not yet started, aborting. xinit: connection to X server lost. xterm: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) or KillClient on X server ":0.0" xinit: Bad file descriptor (errno 9): can't send HUP to process group 1332 $ XWin.log file: ***************************** Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-2 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: X :0 -multiwindow -clipboard ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information (==) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1280 height: 1024 depth: 32 winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 null screen fn ReparentWindow null screen fn RestackWindow InitQueue - Calling pthread_mutex_init InitQueue - pthread_mutex_init returned InitQueue - Calling pthread_cond_init InitQueue - pthread_cond_init returned winInitMultiWindowWM - Hello winInitMultiWindowWM - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Hello winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "0000040C" (0000040c) (--) Using preset keyboard for "French (Standard)" (40c), type "4" (--) 8 mouse buttons found Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list! winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_lock () returned. winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_lock () returned. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. winInitMultiWindowWM - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winInitClipboard () winProcEstablishConnection - winInitClipboard returned. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winInitMultiWindowWM - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winClipboardProc - Hello DetectUnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP winClipboardProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winClipboardProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winProcSetSelectionOwner - Clipboard not yet started, aborting. winProcSetSelectionOwner - Clipboard not yet started, aborting. From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Jul 1 16:44:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:44:00 -0000 Subject: Startx crashes while program running in xterm window In-Reply-To: <009901c57e4a$88653160$fa084f82@ustrasbg.fr> References: <009901c57e4a$88653160$fa084f82@ustrasbg.fr> Message-ID: On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Doublon wrote: > Hi: > > Startx crashes while program running in xterm window. > > Circumstances of crash: > - Running xstart in a cygwin command window > - Running homemade program GrafxDemo in the xterm window launched by startx > - While GrafxDemo is running, crash occurs: xterm window closed, startx ends. Can you provide the program so I can try to reproduce the bug? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From bg573@lafn.org Fri Jul 1 23:16:00 2005 From: bg573@lafn.org (richard goldstein) Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 23:16:00 -0000 Subject: "cannot open display" Message-ID: <42C5CEB6.5040607@lafn.org> Hello, I have recently installed the entire Cywin package on my Dell Dimension 3000, Windows XP. It works fine until I run xmgrace, or xfig. Then I get the error message "cannot open display". I have tried "export DISPLAY=localhost:0.0", and "startxwin.bat". They give me the message below: Any advice you can send me will be most welcome. Thanks, Richard Goldstein (bg573@lafn.org) Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-2 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning (WW) /tmp mounted int textmode _XSERVTransSocketCreateListener: listen() failed _XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to create listener for inet _XSERVTransmkdir: Cannot create /tmp/.X11-unix with root ownership _XSERVTransSocketCreateListener: listen() failed _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to create listener for local Fatal server error: Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't already running winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Sat Jul 2 11:42:00 2005 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 11:42:00 -0000 Subject: Startx crashes while program running in xterm window In-Reply-To: <009901c57e4a$88653160$fa084f82@ustrasbg.fr> References: <009901c57e4a$88653160$fa084f82@ustrasbg.fr> Message-ID: Doublon wrote: > Hi: > > Startx crashes while program running in xterm window. > > Circumstances of crash: > - Running xstart in a cygwin command window > - Running homemade program GrafxDemo in the xterm window launched by startx > - While GrafxDemo is running, crash occurs: xterm window closed, startx ends. The problem is a drawing request which exceeds the stack memory limit. I'll provide a fixed package next week. details: a polygon fill function tries to allocate memory on the stack, but it requested size exceeds the stack size. Instead of returning NULL which alloca is supposed to, it crashes with a segfault. The workaround is to disable the usage of alloca in those regions of XWin and fallback to malloc and free instead. bye ago NP: Laibach - Alle Gegen Alle -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Sat Jul 2 11:44:00 2005 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 11:44:00 -0000 Subject: "cannot open display" In-Reply-To: <42C5CEB6.5040607@lafn.org> References: <42C5CEB6.5040607@lafn.org> Message-ID: richard goldstein wrote: > (WW) /tmp mounted int textmode > _XSERVTransSocketCreateListener: listen() failed > _XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed > _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to create listener for inet > _XSERVTransmkdir: Cannot create /tmp/.X11-unix with root ownership > _XSERVTransSocketCreateListener: listen() failed > _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed > _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to create listener for local Neither the TCP interface nor the unix sockets could be initialized. Maybe you have some kind of firewall, virus scanner or vpn software which breaks the windows network layers. bye ago NP: Laibach - Alle Gegen Alle -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From bg573@lafn.org Sat Jul 2 16:06:00 2005 From: bg573@lafn.org (richard goldstein) Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 16:06:00 -0000 Subject: "cannot open display" Message-ID: <42C6BB77.7010708@lafn.org> Hello, Thanks for helping me. I turned off my McAfee firewall and virus scans, but, unfortunately, running "startxwin.bat" gave the same error message as before (reproduced below). Can you give some further advice? Thanks, Richard Goldstein ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I have recently installed the entire Cywin package on my Dell Dimension 3000, Windows XP. It works fine until I run xmgrace, or xfig. Then I get the error message "cannot open display". I have tried "export DISPLAY=localhost:0.0", and "startxwin.bat". They give me the message below: Any advice you can send me will be most welcome. Thanks, Richard Goldstein Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-2 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning (WW) /tmp mounted int textmode _XSERVTransSocketCreateListener: listen() failed _XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to create listener for inet _XSERVTransmkdir: Cannot create /tmp/.X11-unix with root ownership _XSERVTransSocketCreateListener: listen() failed _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to create listener for local Fatal server error: Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't already running winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in pro gress From doublon@free.fr Sat Jul 2 16:08:00 2005 From: doublon@free.fr (Doublon) Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 16:08:00 -0000 Subject: Startx crashes while program running in xterm window References: <009901c57e4a$88653160$fa084f82@ustrasbg.fr> Message-ID: <04db01c57f20$52919200$7900a8c0@ustrasbg.fr> Thanks a lot for the detailed and fast explanation. Indeed the program tried to fill a large polygon (of the order of 50,000 points). I'll try your fixed package when available. Best wishes, D. Oublon Alexander Gottwald wrote: > > Doublon wrote: > >> Hi: >> >> Startx crashes while program running in xterm window. >> >> Circumstances of crash: >> - Running xstart in a cygwin command window >> - Running homemade program GrafxDemo in the xterm window launched by startx >> - While GrafxDemo is running, crash occurs: xterm window closed, startx ends. > > The problem is a drawing request which exceeds the stack memory limit. I'll > provide a fixed package next week. > > details: > a polygon fill function tries to allocate memory on the stack, but it requested > size exceeds the stack size. Instead of returning NULL which alloca is supposed > to, it crashes with a segfault. > > The workaround is to disable the usage of alloca in those regions of XWin and > fallback to malloc and free instead. > > bye > ago From mrdna@eircom.net Sun Jul 3 16:26:00 2005 From: mrdna@eircom.net (mrdna@eircom.net) Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 16:26:00 -0000 Subject: Changing colours of XTerm Message-ID: Thanks, It was a problem to do with line endings. I sent my .Xdefaults file to my remote UNIX account and opened it with vim. It looked OK. I opened it with vi and it had ^M appended to each line, so I removed each one and sent the file back to my PC where it worked without errors with Cygwin. I ran dos2unix on the file on my UNIX account but it seemed to make no difference. dos2unix does not seem to be in my Cygwin installation and I couldn't find it using the download utility, setup.exe. Also, should the -g geometry command work with Cygwin? I tried opening an xterm& with -g and something like 600x500 and it restarted my Win98 PC. Another thing: When I single click with left or right mouse button on an XTerm window Cygwin freezes and has to be Ctrl+Alt+Delled. I can click and drag text to copy it and all, but when I single click the window to remove the highlighting Cygwin will freeze. This happens consistently. - Liam. - Original Message - Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:55:18 +0200 (MEST) From: Alexander Gottwald To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: cygwin-xfree Digest - How do I change colours in Xterm etc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 mrdna@eircom.net wrote: > > Thanks. That works in .Xdefaults. I must have been doing something wrong. Even though the colours are right I get strange messages when I open a new xterm (typing "xterm&" or "xterm") though. Like this: > > " is not defineding: Color name "black > " to type Booleanonvert string "false > " to type Intot convert string "10 > " to type Booleanonvert string "true > " is not definedame "green4 > " is not definedame "#00E000 Try converting the file to unix line endings dos2unix ~/.Xdefaults bye ago _________________________________________________________________ eircom broadband is now up to four times faster than before. Phone 1850 73 00 73 or visit http://home.eircom.net/broadbandoffer From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Sun Jul 3 16:50:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 16:50:00 -0000 Subject: Changing colours of XTerm Message-ID: On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 mrdna@eircom.net wrote: > > Thanks, > > It was a problem to do with line endings. I sent my .Xdefaults file to my remote UNIX account and opened it with vim. It looked OK. I opened it with vi and it had ^M appended to each line, so I removed each one and sent the file back to my PC where it worked without errors with Cygwin. you can handle it in vim too. Open the file :e filename change format :set fileformat=unix write changes :w > I ran dos2unix on the file on my UNIX account but it seemed to make no difference. dos2unix does not seem to be in my Cygwin installation and I couldn't find it using the download utility, setup.exe. it is in package cygutils http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-cat.cgi?file=cygutils%2Fcygutils-1.2.8-1&grep=dos2unix > Also, should the -g geometry command work with Cygwin? I tried opening an xterm& with -g and something like 600x500 and it restarted my Win98 PC. Get a decent OS. xterm uses characters instead of pixels for geometry settings. So you requested a window of size 4800x4000 which was way to much for Win98 to handle. > Another thing: When I single click with left or right mouse button on an XTerm window Cygwin freezes and has to be Ctrl+Alt+Delled. I can click and drag text to copy it and all, but when I single click the window to remove the highlighting Cygwin will freeze. This happens consistently. Does this happen too without the -clipboard parameter for XWin? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From gustav@indiana.edu Mon Jul 4 23:48:00 2005 From: gustav@indiana.edu (Zdzislaw Meglicki) Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 23:48:00 -0000 Subject: Emacs still crashing Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The X11 version of Emacs (*not* xemacs, mind you) still crashes with the following message X protocol error: BadIDChoice (invalid resource ID chosen for this connection) on protocol request 1 after the latest upgrades to: cygwin 1.5.18-1 xorg-x11-base 6.8.2.0-1 xorg-x11-bin 6.8.2.0-1 xorg-x11-bin-dlls 6.8.2.0-1 xorg-x11-bin-lndir 6.8.2.0-1 xorg-x11-devel 6.8.2.0-2 xorg-x11-etc 6.8.2.0-1 xorg-x11-f100 6.8.1.0-3 xorg-x11-fcyr 6.8.1.0-2 xorg-x11-fenc 6.8.1.0-2 xorg-x11-fnts 6.8.1.0-3 xorg-x11-fscl 6.8.1.0-2 xorg-x11-fsrv 6.8.2.0-1 xorg-x11-libs-data 6.8.2.0-1 xorg-x11-man-pages 6.8.2.0-1 xorg-x11-man-pages-html 6.8.2.0-1 xorg-x11-nest 6.8.2.0-2 xorg-x11-vfb 6.8.2.0-2 xorg-x11-xwin 6.8.2.0-3 xorg-x11-xwin-gl 6.8.2.0-3 emacs 21.2-13 emacs-el 21.2-13 emacs-leim 21.3.50-2 emacs-X11 21.2-13 Windows config is XP Service Pack 2, Intel Pentium III, 863 MHz, 240MB RAM - -- Zdzislaw (Gustav) Meglicki, Office of the Vice President for Information Technology, Indiana University, 601 E. Kirkwood Ave., Room 116, Bloomington, IN 47405-1223, USA, http://beige.ucs.indiana.edu/gustav, ph: 812-856-5597 (o), 812-345-3284 (m), 812-856-3147 (fax) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (Cygwin) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 iD8DBQFCycrAmWA2y7s1YXMRAp10AJ95Dcw3k+JGyE4So93pW8ljXjgQawCgo8qd Oj8CRg+l+oSvcaNCi6t9wPQ= =oBGT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From s368121@student.uq.edu.au Wed Jul 6 15:09:00 2005 From: s368121@student.uq.edu.au (Angus Veitch) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:09:00 -0000 Subject: Errors: "Duplicate invocation" and can't find dll's Message-ID: <42CBF440.90208@student.uq.edu.au> I have just installed the X components of Cygwin and am hoping to eventually connect with XDMCP to my Linux machine. But I'm having some serious teething problems. First, XWin seems to be having difficulty finding the dlls. If I run "XWin -query [computer name]" I First I get an error message saying that it can't find cygwin1.dll. If I copy that dll file from the cygwin\bin\ directory into C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin, the error message changes to another dll. If I copy that dll to the X11R6\bin directory, it moves onto yet another one that it can't find. If I run "startxwin.bat" instead, I don't get the dll error. But when I try to run startx, I get: > winCheckDisplayNumber - Cygwin/X is already running on display 0 > > Fatal server error: > InitOutput - Duplicate invocation on display number: 0. Exiting. If I try "startxdmcp.bat", I get a similar result: > mkdir: Cannot create /tmp/.X11-unix with root ownership > winCheckDisplayNumber - Cygwin/X is already running on display 0 > > Fatal server error: > InitOutput - Duplicate invocation on display number: 0. Exiting. The supposed cause of this error is that I am running two sessions of XWin, but that is simply not the case. I get the same results if I add :1 to the batch files. Any suggestions? PS. This may be relevant: When I installed Cygwin/X, selected all of the X components, rather than just the ones that are automatically selected by the x-org base package or whatever it was called. Is this bad? From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Jul 6 15:31:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:31:00 -0000 Subject: Errors: "Duplicate invocation" and can't find dll's In-Reply-To: <42CBF440.90208@student.uq.edu.au> References: <42CBF440.90208@student.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Angus Veitch wrote: > First, XWin seems to be having difficulty finding the dlls. If I run > "XWin -query [computer name]" I First I get an error message saying that > it can't find cygwin1.dll. If I copy that dll file from the cygwin\bin\ > directory into C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin, the error message changes to > another dll. If I copy that dll to the X11R6\bin directory, it moves > onto yet another one that it can't find. > > If I run "startxwin.bat" instead, I don't get the dll error. You must have the cygwin /bin directory listed in $PATH. If you use startxwin.bat or run XWin from the bash shell this is done for you. If you intend to start xwin manually you have to take care of this. But don't ever copy cygwin1.dll around as this will cause problems when updating the cygwin package. > But when I > try to run startx, I get: > > > Fatal server error: > > InitOutput - Duplicate invocation on display number: 0. Exiting. > > The supposed cause of this error is that I am running two sessions of > XWin, but that is simply not the case. I get the same results if I add > :1 to the batch files. Technicly speaking XWin checks is a mutex named CYGWINX_DISPLAY:0 does already exist and set it. This is global to all windows programs but only XWin.exe and Xming.exe should set it. Your logfile indicates that this mutex does exist, so another XWin.exe or Xming.exe process must exist. You can check this with the windows task manager. > This may be relevant: When I installed Cygwin/X, selected all of the X > components, rather than just the ones that are automatically selected by > the x-org base package or whatever it was called. Is this bad? It should not cause any problems. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Wed Jul 6 15:32:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:32:00 -0000 Subject: Errors: "Duplicate invocation" and can't find dll's In-Reply-To: <42CBF440.90208@student.uq.edu.au> References: <42CBF440.90208@student.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Angus Veitch wrote: > I have just installed the X components of Cygwin and am hoping to > eventually connect with XDMCP to my Linux machine. But I'm having some > serious teething problems. > > First, XWin seems to be having difficulty finding the dlls. If I run > "XWin -query [computer name]" I First I get an error message saying that > it can't find cygwin1.dll. If I copy that dll file from the cygwin\bin\ > directory into C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin, the error message changes to > another dll. If I copy that dll to the X11R6\bin directory, it moves > onto yet another one that it can't find. NO, NO, NO! Please don't do that. Remove the DLLs you copied and instead add C:\cygwin\bin to your PATH. > If I run "startxwin.bat" instead, I don't get the dll error. That's because startxwin.bat adds C:\cygwin\bin to the PATH. > But when I try to run startx, I get: > > > winCheckDisplayNumber - Cygwin/X is already running on display 0 > > > > Fatal server error: > > InitOutput - Duplicate invocation on display number: 0. Exiting. And what's cryptic about that message? You've already run X on display 0 -- use display 1 if you want another instance. > If I try "startxdmcp.bat", I get a similar result: > > > mkdir: Cannot create /tmp/.X11-unix with root ownership > > winCheckDisplayNumber - Cygwin/X is already running on display 0 > > > > Fatal server error: > > InitOutput - Duplicate invocation on display number: 0. Exiting. Ditto. > The supposed cause of this error is that I am running two sessions of > XWin, but that is simply not the case. I get the same results if I add > :1 to the batch files. Is someone else running X on that machine? Are you using terminal services? > Any suggestions? Hmm, what does "ps -W | grep -i xwin" show? > PS. > This may be relevant: When I installed Cygwin/X, selected all of the X > components, rather than just the ones that are automatically selected by > the x-org base package or whatever it was called. Is this bad? Shouldn't be. Please see the Cygwin problem reporting guidelines at for the right way of reporting your installation information (particularly the part about attaching the output of "cygcheck -svr"). Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! "The Sun will pass between the Earth and the Moon tonight for a total Lunar eclipse..." -- WCBS Radio Newsbrief, Oct 27 2004, 12:01 pm EDT From dlandry@denharco.com Wed Jul 6 17:09:00 2005 From: dlandry@denharco.com (Daniel Landry) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:09:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard Message-ID: >From /tmp/XWin.log (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00001009" (00001009) (EE) Keyboardlayout "Francais (Canada)" (00001009) is unknown The XKB layout code is "ca" or "fr_CA" >From Microsoft Global Dev select "Canadian French" Thanks, Daniel Landry ing., M.ing. Superviseur general - Systeme de controle General Supervisor - Control System Denharco inc - Canada 5110 av Beaudry Saint-Hyacinthe (Quebec) J2S 8A2 Canada Tel.: (450) 773-5454 ext 243 Fax: (450) 773-8099 dlandry@denharco.com From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Jul 6 17:35:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:35:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Daniel Landry wrote: > From /tmp/XWin.log > (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00001009" (00001009) > (EE) Keyboardlayout "Francais (Canada)" (00001009) is unknown > The XKB layout code is "ca" or "fr_CA" > From Microsoft Global Dev select "Canadian French" I've recently added "ca_enhanced" as French (Canada), but from the french group (0000??0c) instead of the english group (0000??09). A few months ago I also added "ca" but removed it again since it did not match the actual layout. Is there a difference between those two? Which is more correct? ca, ca_enhanced or fr_CA. Judging from a short test ca_enhanced matches the layout from the website best (the key left to 1 produces / instead of # with "ca"). you can set the layouts with setxkbmap ca_enhanced. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Jul 6 17:54:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:54:00 -0000 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Xfree_covers_"always_on_top"_taskbar?= In-Reply-To: <16652.1120056926@www60.gmx.net> References: <16652.1120056926@www60.gmx.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Tobias Polzin wrote: > I configured my win-taskbar to be "always on top" and other windows respect > this, but any Xfree window (e.g. an xterm) can be put above the taskbar, > which is quite annoying. I've checked this but can not come up with a solution. Actually it seems the taskbar explicitly hides from those windows and does even expose windows which were below the taskbar before when the Cygwin/X window (even the root window) gets activated. But I could not find a place where such an behaviour is forced. It seems you'll have to live with that. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From dlandry@denharco.com Wed Jul 6 18:43:00 2005 From: dlandry@denharco.com (Daniel Landry) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 18:43:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Daniel Landry wrote: > From /tmp/XWin.log > (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00001009" (00001009) > (EE) Keyboardlayout "Francais (Canada)" (00001009) is unknown > The XKB layout code is "ca" or "fr_CA" > From Microsoft Global Dev select "Canadian French" On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > I've recently added "ca_enhanced" as French (Canada), but from the french > group (0000??0c) instead of the english group (0000??09). A few months > ago I also added "ca" but removed it again since it did not match the actual > layout. > Is there a difference between those two? Which is more correct? ca, ca_enhanced > or fr_CA. Judging from a short test ca_enhanced matches the layout from the > website best (the key left to 1 produces / instead of # with "ca"). > you can set the layouts with setxkbmap ca_enhanced. Running setxkbmap with each layouts (ca, fr_CA, ca_enhanced) don't fix the problem. In all case, the French accents are replaced by a BEEP and any character is displayed. However, I can make a cut and paste from WinXP without any problem. Concerning the key mapping, I'm using fr_CA on my Debian at home and it's working great. However, as Cygwin run on Windows, I presume that the best would be to keep the same keyboard mapping that Windows uses. From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Jul 6 18:56:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 18:56:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Daniel Landry wrote: > Running setxkbmap with each layouts (ca, fr_CA, ca_enhanced) don't fix the > problem. In all case, the French accents are replaced by a BEEP and any > character is displayed. However, I can make a cut and paste from WinXP > without any problem. ca_enhanced uses deadkeys. I get this layout (not printing modifier, backspace and stuff) #1234567890-= qwertyuiop^ asdfghjkl;`< ??zxcvbnm,.?? ^,` are deadkeys. pressing ^ and A will compose ?? > Concerning the key mapping, I'm using fr_CA on my Debian at home and it's > working great. This must be a debian special. There is no such layout in Cygwin/X > However, as Cygwin run on Windows, I presume that the best > would be to keep the same keyboard mapping that Windows uses. At least in the autedetection list. You can override the defaults with the -xkblayout parameter anyway and set a different layout. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From castlehill@alum.mit.edu Wed Jul 6 19:17:00 2005 From: castlehill@alum.mit.edu (Larry Griffith) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:17:00 -0000 Subject: Problems running OpenGL program on Cygwin Message-ID: <000301c5825f$511bd650$6500a8c0@MaujasHouse> Dear List Members, I'm a newbie to Cygwin who is trying to learn how to run an OpenGL program under Cygwin-X. I used a standard program written by SGI (called cube.c) that I know runs correctly under Solaris 9, using gcc and the Mesa library, so I don't think the program itself is the problem. I ran xinit to get a bash shell, cd'd to the proper directory, and ran the following command: gcc cube.c -o cube -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lglut -lGLU -lGL -lX11 which compiles correctly (thanks to some assistance from your mailing list archives). When I type ./cube I get a black rectangle with no picture (and in particular no cube) and no error messages. I can click the shell window and press CTRL-C to get out. I've checked the FAQ, the user guide, and the archives (which did give me some help), but I can't get past this point. As already mentioned, I know this program works on Solaris/gcc/Mesa, so I'm wondering if there is a problem with my cygwin installation, libraries, or commands. I'm running the latest version of the Cygwin system as far as I can tell on Windows XP SP2. From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Jul 6 19:31:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:31:00 -0000 Subject: Problems running OpenGL program on Cygwin In-Reply-To: <000301c5825f$511bd650$6500a8c0@MaujasHouse> References: <000301c5825f$511bd650$6500a8c0@MaujasHouse> Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Larry Griffith wrote: > I get a black rectangle with no picture (and in particular no cube) and > no error messages. I can click the shell window and press CTRL-C > to get out. Are you using XWin or XWin_GL, the version with accelerated OpenGL. For XWin_GL you'll need additional OpenGL drivers from your vendor. The drivers installed by Windows will not work properly. To test you should run glxinfo | grep "OpenGL vendor string". If this is something like "Windows GDI" then you're using the Windows supplied drivers which do not work. Another good program for testing is glxgears. It is installed with Cygwin/X and should always show running gears. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Reid.Thompson@ateb.com Wed Jul 6 20:24:00 2005 From: Reid.Thompson@ateb.com (Reid Thompson) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:24:00 -0000 Subject: Problems running OpenGL program on Cygwin Message-ID: Larry Griffith wrote: > Dear List Members, > > I'm a newbie to Cygwin who is trying to learn how to run > an OpenGL program under Cygwin-X. I used a standard program > written by SGI (called cube.c) that I know runs correctly > under Solaris 9, using gcc and the Mesa library, so I don't > think the program itself is the problem. > > I ran xinit to get a bash shell, cd'd to the proper directory, > and ran the > following command: > > gcc cube.c -o cube -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lglut -lGLU > -lGL -lX11 > > which compiles correctly (thanks to some assistance from your mailing > list archives). > > When I type > > ./cube > > I get a black rectangle with no picture (and in particular no > cube) and no error messages. I can click the shell window and press > CTRL-C to get out. > > I've checked the FAQ, the user guide, and the archives (which > did give me some help), but I can't get past this point. As > already mentioned, I know this program works on > Solaris/gcc/Mesa, so I'm wondering if there is a problem with > my cygwin installation, libraries, or commands. > > I'm running the latest version of the Cygwin system as far as > I can tell on Windows XP SP2. as info - i dl'd cube.c, pasted your compile command above, called ./cube -- all worked as expected. do you have any cygwin precompiled x binaries available ( xclock??? ), if you call xclock, what is the result? reid From dlandry@denharco.com Wed Jul 6 20:40:00 2005 From: dlandry@denharco.com (Daniel Landry) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:40:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard Message-ID: I'm familiar with deadkeys, but they don't work on my Cygwin installation. The character is a special key that doesn't request any deadkey and it doesn't work either. Using any accented character give always the same result: BEEP without any character displayed. All other characters seem to work correctly. I give a try to the "fr" mapping with the same result. One of my co-workers has also installed Cygwin on his computer and he obtained the same results as mine. I made an upgrade this morning to be certain that I'm having the last Cygwin version. If it can help, my computer is a Dell Latitude C840. The first time that I saw the fr_CA layout on Linux was with Redhat using Xfree86 and I also recently saw it with Gentoo (2005.0) using Xorg. I'm presuming it is part of the Xfree86 and Xorg projects. You can also find a reference in the Cygwin file /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86. However, running "setxkbmap fr_CA" in Cygwin give " Error loading new keyboard description". Note that I can adapt myself to use ca or ca_enhanced without problem. It is easy to adapt us if only few keys are to a different place. Thanks for your support -----Message d'origine----- De: Alexander Gottwald Date: 6 juillet 2005 14:56 A: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'; Daniel Landry Objet: RE: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Daniel Landry wrote: > Running setxkbmap with each layouts (ca, fr_CA, ca_enhanced) don't fix the > problem. In all case, the French accents are replaced by a BEEP and any > character is displayed. However, I can make a cut and paste from WinXP > without any problem. ca_enhanced uses deadkeys. I get this layout (not printing modifier, backspace and stuff) #1234567890-= qwertyuiop^ asdfghjkl;`< "zxcvbnm,.e ^,` are deadkeys. pressing ^ and A will compose A > Concerning the key mapping, I'm using fr_CA on my Debian at home and it's > working great. This must be a debian special. There is no such layout in Cygwin/X > However, as Cygwin run on Windows, I presume that the best > would be to keep the same keyboard mapping that Windows uses. At least in the autedetection list. You can override the defaults with the -xkblayout parameter anyway and set a different layout. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From dlandry@denharco.com Wed Jul 6 23:28:00 2005 From: dlandry@denharco.com (Daniel Landry) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 23:28:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard Message-ID: I have found my problem. I had tried cut and paste functions in Emacs but try the new keyboard mapping in Xterm. In fact, "ca_enhanced" keyboard was working in some application, but not on others. Emacs, vim, nano see well the new mapping. Xterm and some other applications like python interpreter environment don't see it, but I can't make any cut and paste with accented character either. I'll see case by case for the configuration of these applications but it is no more a keyboard-mapping problem. Take note also that "ca_enhanced " keyboard is a nice one that fit exactly with the symbol on my decking keyboard. It seems that the comment in the ca_enhanced description is right: "Most of the french canadian keyboards available on PCs are mapped like this." It will be great if this mapping is selected automatically in the future. That will help the new users. Thanks again for your support. -----Message d'origine----- De: Daniel Landry Date: 6 juillet 2005 16:34 A: 'Alexander Gottwald'; 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Objet: RE: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard I'm familiar with deadkeys, but they don't work on my Cygwin installation. The character is a special key that doesn't request any deadkey and it doesn't work either. Using any accented character give always the same result: BEEP without any character displayed. All other characters seem to work correctly. I give a try to the "fr" mapping with the same result. One of my co-workers has also installed Cygwin on his computer and he obtained the same results as mine. I made an upgrade this morning to be certain that I'm having the last Cygwin version. If it can help, my computer is a Dell Latitude C840. The first time that I saw the fr_CA layout on Linux was with Redhat using Xfree86 and I also recently saw it with Gentoo (2005.0) using Xorg. I'm presuming it is part of the Xfree86 and Xorg projects. You can also find a reference in the Cygwin file /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86. However, running "setxkbmap fr_CA" in Cygwin give " Error loading new keyboard description". Note that I can adapt myself to use ca or ca_enhanced without problem. It is easy to adapt us if only few keys are to a different place. Thanks for your support -----Message d'origine----- De: Alexander Gottwald Date: 6 juillet 2005 14:56 A: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'; Daniel Landry Objet: RE: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Daniel Landry wrote: > Running setxkbmap with each layouts (ca, fr_CA, ca_enhanced) don't fix the > problem. In all case, the French accents are replaced by a BEEP and any > character is displayed. However, I can make a cut and paste from WinXP > without any problem. ca_enhanced uses deadkeys. I get this layout (not printing modifier, backspace and stuff) #1234567890-= qwertyuiop^ asdfghjkl;`< "zxcvbnm,.e ^,` are deadkeys. pressing ^ and A will compose A > Concerning the key mapping, I'm using fr_CA on my Debian at home and it's > working great. This must be a debian special. There is no such layout in Cygwin/X > However, as Cygwin run on Windows, I presume that the best > would be to keep the same keyboard mapping that Windows uses. At least in the autedetection list. You can override the defaults with the -xkblayout parameter anyway and set a different layout. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Thu Jul 7 01:45:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 01:45:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ugh, top-posting. Reformatted. On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Daniel Landry wrote: > -----Message d'origine----- > De: Daniel Landry > Date: 6 juillet 2005 16:34 > A: 'Alexander Gottwald'; 'cygwin-xfreecygwin.com' Also, . Thanks. > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De: Alexander Gottwald > > Date: 6 juillet 2005 14:56 > > > > > On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Daniel Landry wrote: > > > > > > > Running setxkbmap with each layouts (ca, fr_CA, ca_enhanced) don't > > > > fix the problem. In all case, the French accents are replaced by > > > > a BEEP and any character is displayed. However, I can make a cut > > > > and paste from WinXP without any problem. > > > > > > ca_enhanced uses deadkeys. > > > ^,` are deadkeys. pressing ^ and A will compose A > > > [snip] > > > > I'm familiar with deadkeys, but they don't work on my Cygwin > > installation. The character is a special key that doesn't request > > any deadkey and it doesn't work either. Using any accented character > > give always the same result: BEEP without any character displayed. > > All other characters seem to work correctly. I give a try to the "fr" > > mapping with the same result. One of my co-workers has also installed > > Cygwin on his computer and he obtained the same results as mine. I > > made an upgrade this morning to be certain that I'm having the last > > Cygwin version. If it can help, my computer is a Dell Latitude C840. > > [snip] > > I have found my problem. I had tried cut and paste functions in Emacs > but try the new keyboard mapping in Xterm. In fact, "ca_enhanced" > keyboard was working in some application, but not on others. Emacs, > vim, nano see well the new mapping. Xterm and some other applications > like python interpreter environment don't see it, but I can't make any > cut and paste with accented character either. I'll see case by case for > the configuration of these applications but it is no more a > keyboard-mapping problem. > [snip] Ah. I'm going to venture a guess and say that it's not simply an xterm, but an xterm running bash[*] that doesn't work, and direct you to . HTH, Igor [*] bash uses readline, and, most likely, so does the python interpreter environment (top-level?). -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! "The Sun will pass between the Earth and the Moon tonight for a total Lunar eclipse..." -- WCBS Radio Newsbrief, Oct 27 2004, 12:01 pm EDT From brian@dessent.net Thu Jul 7 04:45:00 2005 From: brian@dessent.net (Brian Dessent) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 04:45:00 -0000 Subject: Compiling xorg-x11-fonts References: <000701c582ab$355616a0$e12fb5d5@keloasc60pobkb> Message-ID: <42CCB479.84516126@dessent.net> Alireza Ghasemi wrote: > I have downloaded xorg-x11-fonts-6.8 but I don't know how to compile > it.There is no typical Makefile and no configure script.Please explain me > step by step how to compile it and get use of X11 in Cygwin.I need X! 1. You sent this to the wrong address. For X11 questions you should use the cygwin-xfree cygwin.com mailing list. 2. There is no need to compile anything to use the X server in Cygwin. Just install the binary packages. Run setup.exe and select the "xorg-x11-base" package, which in turn will select all the other necessary packages. This is all documented in the Cygwin/X Users Guide: . 3. The particular package, xorg-x11-fonts, cannot be compiled because it consists of font files and nothing else. It is only one component of many that is required to use the X11 server. Brian From ali.foolad@gmail.com Thu Jul 7 11:26:00 2005 From: ali.foolad@gmail.com (Alireza Ghasemi) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:26:00 -0000 Subject: Help about xorg-x11-fnts Message-ID: <000201c582e6$a5a5c280$8d2fb5d5@keloasc60pobkb> Hello, I have downloaded xorg-x11-fonts-6.8 but I don't know how to compile it.There is no typical Makefile and no configure script.Please explain me step by step how to compile it and get use of X11 in Cygwin.I have downloaded all other needed packages But it is very difficult for me to download huge 16 MB xorg-x11-fnts binary file. I copied the package to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts but again When I try to run X I get error about 'fixed font'. What should I do? Thanks From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Thu Jul 7 13:02:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:02:00 -0000 Subject: Help about xorg-x11-fnts In-Reply-To: <000201c582e6$a5a5c280$8d2fb5d5@keloasc60pobkb> References: <000201c582e6$a5a5c280$8d2fb5d5@keloasc60pobkb> Message-ID: On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Alireza Ghasemi wrote: > Hello, > I have downloaded xorg-x11-fonts-6.8 but I don't know how to compile > it.There is no typical Makefile and no configure script.Please explain me > step by step how to compile it and get use of X11 in Cygwin.I have > downloaded all other needed packages But it is very difficult for me to > download huge 16 MB xorg-x11-fnts binary file. > I copied the package to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts Don't copy it -- use the Cygwin setup program to install it. The X.Org X packages use Imakefiles instead of Makefiles -- there's adequate documentation on X.org. But read on. > but again When I try to run X I get error about 'fixed font'. > What should I do? Normally, you'd be referred to the Cygwin/X FAQ at . However, in this case, that would be useless, as you didn't use a prescribed procedure to install the packages, so anything could be happening. This kind of installation isn't (and cannot be) supported on the Cygwin lists. Igor P.S. Your spacebar key seems to be malfunctioning. -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! "The Sun will pass between the Earth and the Moon tonight for a total Lunar eclipse..." -- WCBS Radio Newsbrief, Oct 27 2004, 12:01 pm EDT From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Jul 7 13:47:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:47:00 -0000 Subject: Help about xorg-x11-fnts In-Reply-To: <000201c582e6$a5a5c280$8d2fb5d5@keloasc60pobkb> References: <000201c582e6$a5a5c280$8d2fb5d5@keloasc60pobkb> Message-ID: On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Alireza Ghasemi wrote: > Hello, > I have downloaded xorg-x11-fonts-6.8 but I don't know how to compile > it.There is no typical Makefile and no configure script.Please explain me > step by step how to compile it and get use of X11 in Cygwin.I have > downloaded all other needed packages But it is very difficult for me to > download huge 16 MB xorg-x11-fnts binary file. The fonts are built from a large source distribution containing everything from X. The xorg-x11-*-src packages are just snippets of the large distribution. The build from the source packages does not properly work and requires good knowledge of make and the directory layout of X11. Download xorg-x11-fnts-6.8.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2 Unpack tar xvjf xorg-x11-fnts-6.8.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2 tar xvjf xorg-x11-fenc-6.8.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2 Fix references to xorg-x11-base-6.8.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2 ed xc/fonts/bdf/misc/Imakefile < Hi all, I actually use Cygwin/X to display software from remote Unix servers. It really works fine except with matlab 6 : When I launch matlab, the main window appears on my local display but the keyboard seems inactive. (I cannot type anything inside the matlab's command window) Moreover, a left click is a "paste" (?), middle is also "paste" while the right click opens correctly the context menu. I can also notice that the statusbar (at the bottom of the matlab window) stays on "initializing" and never switches to "Ready". I've found some keyboard problems on the mathworks' web site, but only for some specific keys like numpad and those workarounds don't work for me. Is it a known problem ? Is there something to do ? Regards. (See Xwin.log below) -- Mathieu OUDART -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: XWin.log URL: From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Jul 7 14:33:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 14:33:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin-Xfree 6.8.2.0-1 - Keyboard problem with Matlab 6.X In-Reply-To: <200507071349.j67Dnt322860@cnes.fr> References: <200507071349.j67Dnt322860@cnes.fr> Message-ID: On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Mathieu OUDART wrote: > Hi all, > > I actually use Cygwin/X to display software from remote Unix servers. > > It really works fine except with matlab 6 : > When I launch matlab, the main window appears on my local display but > the keyboard seems inactive. > (I cannot type anything inside the matlab's command window) > > Moreover, a left click is a "paste" (?), middle is also "paste" while > the right click opens correctly the context menu. Maybe a problem with modifier keys. Try disabling numlock. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From castlehill@alum.mit.edu Thu Jul 7 14:37:00 2005 From: castlehill@alum.mit.edu (Larry Griffith) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 14:37:00 -0000 Subject: Problems running OpenGL program on Cygwin Message-ID: <000701c58301$1e9f00b0$6500a8c0@MaujasHouse> Dear List Members, Thanks for the responses from Alexander Gottwald and Reid Thompson. Before I could try their suggestions out, I had a crash and had to reinstall Cygwin. While doing so, I noticed that the User's Guide suggested starting Cygwin-X with the MS-DOS batch file startxwin.bat rather than with xinit. Now everything works just fine and I see the cube from "cube.c"! Larry Griffith From s368121@student.uq.edu.au Thu Jul 7 15:50:00 2005 From: s368121@student.uq.edu.au (Angus Veitch) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:50:00 -0000 Subject: Duplication error upon startx with XWin :0; No terminal with XWin :1 Message-ID: <42CD4F1D.6060707@student.uq.edu.au> First of all, thanks to Alexander and Igor for responding to my last message. I'm edging my way forward, but haven't seen the light just yet. I'm still not having much success running startx or xdmcp. It's even possible that some of what I am observing is perfectly healthy, and it is my expectations or understanding of the program that are wrong. Since I don't know whether all my problems are related, I'll deal with startxwin.bat in this email and with startxdmcp.bat in the next one. Sorry for all the logs! I'm running a freshly downloaded cygwin/x, and am trying to connect WinXP to a (nearly) freshly installed Linux box running MEPIS. If I run startxwin.bat with the line "XWin :0 -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error", I successfully load a terminal, but attempting to run startx invokes: "Fatal server error: InitOutput - Duplicate invocation on display number: 0." The full XWin.log follows: --------------------------------------------------------- Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-3 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin :0 -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1600 h 1200 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information (==) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1600 height: 1200 depth: 32 winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 null screen fn ReparentWindow null screen fn RestackWindow InitQueue - Calling pthread_mutex_init InitQueue - pthread_mutex_init returned InitQueue - Calling pthread_cond_init InitQueue - pthread_cond_init returned winInitMultiWindowWM - Hello winInitMultiWindowWM - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Hello winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000409" (00000409) (--) Using preset keyboard for "English (USA)" (409), type "4" (--) 5 mouse buttons found Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_lock () returned. winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winInitClipboard () winClipboardProc - Hello DetectUnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP winProcEstablishConnection - winInitClipboard returned. winClipboardProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_lock () returned. winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. winInitMultiWindowWM - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winInitMultiWindowWM - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winClipboardProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winProcSetSelectionOwner - Clipboard not yet started, aborting. winProcSetSelectionOwner - Clipboard not yet started, aborting. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. --------------------------------------------------------- . . . and when I execute "startx" from the terminal . . . --------------------------------------------------------- Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-3 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: X :0 -multiwindow -clipboard ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1600 h 1200 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winCheckDisplayNumber - Cygwin/X is already running on display 0 Fatal server error: InitOutput - Duplicate invocation on display number: 0. Exiting. winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress --------------------------------------------------------- I can't find any other xwin processes running (perhaps I don't know what to look for), but to keep xwin happy, I instead run startxwin.bat with "XWin :1 (...etc)". The result is that I get no terminal at all -- the cygwin/x window is just a blank grey screen. The XWin.log follows: --------------------------------------------------------- Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-3 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin :1 -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1600 h 1200 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information (==) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1600 height: 1200 depth: 32 winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 null screen fn ReparentWindow null screen fn RestackWindow InitQueue - Calling pthread_mutex_init InitQueue - pthread_mutex_init returned InitQueue - Calling pthread_cond_init InitQueue - pthread_cond_init returned winInitMultiWindowWM - Hello winInitMultiWindowWM - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Hello winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000409" (00000409) (--) Using preset keyboard for "English (USA)" (409), type "4" (--) 5 mouse buttons found Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_lock () returned. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_lock () returned. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. winInitMultiWindowWM - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:1.0 winMultiWindowXMsgProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:1.0 winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winInitClipboard () winClipboardProc - Hello DetectUnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP winProcEstablishConnection - winInitClipboard returned. winClipboardProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:1.0 winInitMultiWindowWM - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winClipboardProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress winClipboardProc - winClipboardFlushWindowsMessageQueue trapped WM_QUIT message, exiting main loop. winClipboardProc - XDestroyWindow succeeded. winClipboardIOErrorHandler! winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress --------------------------------------------------------- So, my question is: Why is the terminal missing when I run startwinx.bat with display number :1 rather than :0? 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The full XWin.log follows: --------------------------------------------------------- Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-3 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin :0 -query 192.168.0.111 -nodecoration -lesspointer ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1600 h 1200 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information (==) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000409" (00000409) (--) Using preset keyboard for "English (USA)" (409), type "4" (--) 5 mouse buttons found Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! Fatal server error: XDMCP fatal error: Manager unwilling Host unwilling winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress --------------------------------------------------------- Now, I'm new to both Linux and XDMCP, so I'm still feeling my way in this area. But I have managed to track down "/etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc" and modify the approriate line to: [Xdmcp] Enable=true I have also done a few other things specified in the "XDMCP HowTo" available at http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/. But due to the specifics of MEPIS combined with my inexperience with Linux, there is still a reasonable chance that I have missed something. Also, I think (but am not sure) that I have set up GuardDog (firewall) on MEPIS to allow the XDMCP requests. At least I am now getting the same results with the firewall turned off as when it is turned on. What is the likely cause of the fatal error in this case? What steps should I take to overcome it? Thanks, Angus. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: cygcheck.out URL: From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Thu Jul 7 16:37:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:37:00 -0000 Subject: Duplication error upon startx with XWin :0; No terminal with XWin :1 In-Reply-To: <42CD4F1D.6060707@student.uq.edu.au> References: <42CD4F1D.6060707@student.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Angus Veitch wrote: > First of all, thanks to Alexander and Igor for responding to my last > message. I'm edging my way forward, but haven't seen the light just yet. > I'm still not having much success running startx or xdmcp. It's even > possible that some of what I am observing is perfectly healthy, and it > is my expectations or understanding of the program that are wrong. > Since I don't know whether all my problems are related, I'll deal with > startxwin.bat in this email and with startxdmcp.bat in the next one. > Sorry for all the logs! > > I'm running a freshly downloaded cygwin/x, and am trying to connect WinXP to a > (nearly) freshly installed Linux box running MEPIS. > > If I run startxwin.bat with the line "XWin :0 -multiwindow -clipboard > -silent-dup-error", I successfully load a terminal, but attempting to run > startx invokes: "Fatal server error: InitOutput - Duplicate invocation on > display number: 0." The full XWin.log follows: > [snip] If it really is a duplicate invocation on the same window station, you should have an "X" icon in your system tray. You could quit the current X server, and your new one would come up. > I can't find any other xwin processes running (perhaps I don't know what to > look for), ps -W | grep -i xwin > but to keep xwin happy, I instead run startxwin.bat with "XWin :1 > (...etc)". The result is that I get no terminal at all -- the cygwin/x > window is just a blank grey screen. The XWin.log follows: > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Welcome to the XWin X Server > Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project > Release: 6.8.2.0-3 > > Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > XWin was started with the following command line: > > /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin :1 -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error > [snip] > winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress > winClipboardProc - winClipboardFlushWindowsMessageQueue trapped WM_QUIT > message, exiting main loop. > winClipboardProc - XDestroyWindow succeeded. > > winClipboardIOErrorHandler! > > winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress > --------------------------------------------------------- > > So, my question is: Why is the terminal missing when I run startwinx.bat > with display number :1 rather than :0? You're basically attempting to start two multiwindow window managers on the same underlying Windows desktop. If I understand this correctly, the multiwindow manager needs some sort of exclusive access to the underlying Windows interface to delegate all of the window handling, and having more than one of them makes them interfere with each other. Try starting the second XWin without the -multiwindow parameter, and see if it helps. You don't want -multiwindow for XDMCP anyway. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! "The Sun will pass between the Earth and the Moon tonight for a total Lunar eclipse..." -- WCBS Radio Newsbrief, Oct 27 2004, 12:01 pm EDT From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Jul 7 16:37:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:37:00 -0000 Subject: Duplication error upon startx with XWin :0; No terminal with XWin :1 In-Reply-To: <42CD4F1D.6060707@student.uq.edu.au> References: <42CD4F1D.6060707@student.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Angus Veitch wrote: > If I run startxwin.bat with the line "XWin :0 -multiwindow -clipboard > -silent-dup-error", I successfully load a terminal, but attempting to > run startx invokes: "Fatal server error: InitOutput - Duplicate > invocation on display number: 0." The full XWin.log follows: Maybe because you've already started the xserver with startxwin.bat? startxwin.bat and startxwin.sh and startx all do the same. > > . . . and when I execute "startx" from the terminal . . . Why do you want this. With startxwin.bat, the xserver is already started > So, my question is: Why is the terminal missing when I run startwinx.bat > with display number :1 rather than :0? because at the start of startxwin.bat there is line SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 ^^ which must match the display number used with XWin bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Jul 7 16:38:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:38:00 -0000 Subject: How do I fix "XDMCP fatal error: Manager unwilling Host unwilling"? In-Reply-To: <42CD4F44.6070800@student.uq.edu.au> References: <42CD4F44.6070800@student.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Angus Veitch wrote: > Running the default startxdmcp.bat with "XWin :0 -query %REMOTE_HOST% > -nodecoration -lesspointer" fails at: "Fatal server error: XDMCP fatal > error: Manager unwilling Host unwilling". The full XWin.log follows: > > Fatal server error: > XDMCP fatal error: Manager unwilling Host unwilling > Now, I'm new to both Linux and XDMCP, so I'm still feeling my way in > this area. But I have managed to track down "/etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc" and > modify the approriate line to: > > [Xdmcp] > Enable=true > > I have also done a few other things specified in the "XDMCP HowTo" > available at http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/. But due to the > specifics of MEPIS combined with my inexperience with Linux, there is > still a reasonable chance that I have missed something. http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-xdmcp-query XDMCP and firewalls XDMCP will not work correctly if you have a personal firewall installed or the built-in firewall of Windows is activated. The XDMCP protocol will send and receive data on port 177/UDP. But the actual connections will be made to the local port 6000/TCP. It is safe to allow connections since the xserver has an own security layer. An overview of used ports is given in Table 2. Table 2. Ports used with XDMCP connections Port Protocol Direction Comment 177 UDP Incoming/Outgoing Actual XDMCP connection 6000+display TCP Incoming Connection for X11 clients. display is usally 0 except you specify it on the commandline. Special Note: XDMCP does not work with any kind of network address translation There are configuration files for xdm which control which host can connect to the xdmcp server. They are usally located in /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess. KDM may use different locations. The default will allow any host access. But I don't know how the installed files differ from the defaults. You might want to ask the distributor of MEPIS how to get XDMCP access to the system. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Jul 7 16:45:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:45:00 -0000 Subject: Duplication error upon startx with XWin :0; No terminal with XWin :1 In-Reply-To: References: <42CD4F1D.6060707@student.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > You're basically attempting to start two multiwindow window managers on > the same underlying Windows desktop. If I understand this correctly, the > multiwindow manager needs some sort of exclusive access to the underlying > Windows interface to delegate all of the window handling, and having more > than one of them makes them interfere with each other. > > Try starting the second XWin without the -multiwindow parameter, and see > if it helps. You don't want -multiwindow for XDMCP anyway. No. It's not the window manager. It's the network layer of X11. The display number refers to the TCP port (6000+$n) and the unix socket /tmp/.X11-unix/X$n. If you try to start more than one xserver with the same display it will fail to bind to the TCP port but create the unix socket anyway. This leads to strange results, so we added the check with the mutex. So the rule is: Different display numbers per XWin or xserver process. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From mrdna@eircom.net Thu Jul 7 18:34:00 2005 From: mrdna@eircom.net (mrdna@eircom.net) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:34:00 -0000 Subject: Crash when single-click Xterm window Message-ID: Originally posted by me and by Alexander.Gottwald: > Another thing: When I single click with left or right mouse button on an XTerm window Cygwin freezes and has to be Ctrl+Alt+Delled. I can click and drag text to copy it and all, but when I single click the window to remove the highlighting Cygwin will freeze. This happens consistently. > Does this happen too without the -clipboard parameter for XWin? Thanks. I tried running without -clipboard and there seems to be no problem when I right or left click an XTerm window. Stragely, with the -clipboard option only single clicks caused the problem. A left click-and-drag (and presumably a copy to the clipboard in the background) caused no problem. - Liam. _________________________________________________________________ eircom broadband is now up to four times faster than before. Phone 1850 73 00 73 or visit http://home.eircom.net/broadbandoffer From dlandry@denharco.com Thu Jul 7 22:12:00 2005 From: dlandry@denharco.com (Daniel Landry) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 22:12:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: >Ah. I'm going to venture a guess and say that it's not simply an xterm, >but an xterm running bash[*] that doesn't work, and direct you to >. >[*] bash uses readline, and, most likely, so does the python interpreter environment (top-level?). Your guess is right. I have followed the link and adapt to my specific need but it seems that I have missed something. Accented characters are printed as if convert-meta is set to on. As an example e (e acute) is displayed as \351. These are my home configuration files # .bashrc ? alias less='less -r' alias ls='ls -F --color=tty --show-control-chars' export LANG="fr" export LC_ALL="fr_CA" export LC_CTYPE="iso-8859-1" export OUTPUT_CHARSET="iso-8859-1" export LESSCHARSET="iso8859" setxkbmap ca_enhanced # .inputrc set meta-flag on # enable 8-bit input set convert-meta off # don't strip 8-bit characters set input-meta on # enable 8-bit input set output-meta on # display 8-bit characters correctly Daniel Landry From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Thu Jul 7 22:28:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 22:28:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Daniel, Please make sure your mailer respects the Reply-To: header -- I set it for a reason. There was no need to Cc: me -- I read the list. On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Daniel Landry wrote: > On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > >Ah. I'm going to venture a guess and say that it's not simply an xterm, > >but an xterm running bash[*] that doesn't work, and direct you to > >. > > >[*] bash uses readline, and, most likely, so does the python interpreter > >environment (top-level?). > > Your guess is right. At which point this stops being an X-related problem, and is better discussed on the main list. I've set the Reply-To: accordingly (though the xfree list is likely to add another pointing to itself). > I have followed the link and adapt to my specific need but it seems that > I have missed something. Accented characters are printed as if > convert-meta is set to on. As an example e (e acute) is displayed as > \351. Displayed by what? If you type "echo ??" at the bash prompt, does that display properly? What about "echo -e '\0351'"? > These are my home configuration files > > # .bashrc > ? ^ Huh? > alias less='less -r' > alias ls='ls -F --color=tty --show-control-chars' > export LANG="fr" > export LC_ALL="fr_CA" > export LC_CTYPE="iso-8859-1" > export OUTPUT_CHARSET="iso-8859-1" > export LESSCHARSET="iso8859" > setxkbmap ca_enhanced > > # .inputrc > set meta-flag on # enable 8-bit input > set convert-meta off # don't strip 8-bit characters > set input-meta on # enable 8-bit input > set output-meta on # display 8-bit characters correctly What does "bind -v | grep meta" show when run from bash? Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! "The Sun will pass between the Earth and the Moon tonight for a total Lunar eclipse..." -- WCBS Radio Newsbrief, Oct 27 2004, 12:01 pm EDT From dlandry@denharco.com Fri Jul 8 01:13:00 2005 From: dlandry@denharco.com (Daniel Landry) Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 01:13:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin doesn't recognize the Canadian French keyboard Message-ID: In Xterm, running bash, the result is: $ echo \351 e (e acute is displayed correctly) $ bind -v | grep meta set convert-meta off set input-meta off set meta-flag off set output-meta off My complete .bashrc is (I have removed only the line beginning by #): # User dependent .bashrc file eval 'dircolors -b' alias whereis=which alias xterm='xterm -sl 5000' # Requis pour accent francais dans certaines applications alias less='less -r' alias ls='ls -F --color=tty --show-control-chars' export LANG="fr" export LC_ALL="fr_CA" export LC_CTYPE="iso-8859-1" export OUTPUT_CHARSET="iso-8859-1" export LESSCHARSET="iso8859" # Requis lorsque la dedection automatique de Xwin ne fonctionne pas setxkbmap ca_enhanced On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: >At which point this stops being an X-related problem, and is better >discussed on the main list. I've set the Reply-To: accordingly (though >the xfree list is likely to add another pointing to itself). >> I have followed the link and adapt to my specific need but it seems that >> I have missed something. Accented characters are printed as if >> convert-meta is set to on. As an example e (e acute) is displayed as >> \351. >Displayed by what? If you type "echo e" at the bash prompt, does that >display properly? What about "echo -e '\0351'"? >> These are my home configuration files >> >> # .bashrc ? >> # .inputrc ? >What does "bind -v | grep meta" show when run from bash? From Mathieu.Oudart@cnes.fr Fri Jul 8 06:47:00 2005 From: Mathieu.Oudart@cnes.fr (Mathieu OUDART) Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 06:47:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin-Xfree 6.8.2.0-1 - Keyboard problem with Matlab 6.X Message-ID: <200507080647.j686l8r06636@cnes.fr> >> Hi all, >> >> I actually use Cygwin/X to display software from remote Unix servers. >> >> It really works fine except with matlab 6 : >> When I launch matlab, the main window appears on my local display but >> the keyboard seems inactive. >> (I cannot type anything inside the matlab's command window) >> >> Moreover, a left click is a "paste" (?), middle is also "paste" while >> the right click opens correctly the context menu. > > > Maybe a problem with modifier keys. Try disabling numlock. > > bye > ago Quite simple and it works .. thanks ! and if anyone knows how I could get a working numpad that would be great ! -- Mathieu OUDART From fooladgh@gmail.com Fri Jul 8 11:24:00 2005 From: fooladgh@gmail.com (Alireza Ghasemi) Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 11:24:00 -0000 Subject: Gnome problem Message-ID: <000501c583af$884fbe10$dc2fb5d5@keloasc60pobkb> Hello I tried to compile gnome-libs with cygwin and in configuration phase I got the following error : " checking for gmodule support... no configure: error: Dynamic linking is not available on this platform. Some apps,like panel, will not run properly. " Is there any idea about solving it ? And at all,What should I do if I want to have Gnome in my cygwin ? What packages should I download ? Thanks. From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Fri Jul 8 13:29:00 2005 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:29:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin-Xfree 6.8.2.0-1 - Keyboard problem with Matlab 6.X In-Reply-To: <200507080647.j686l8r06636@cnes.fr> Message-ID: This thread from several years ago may be what you're looking for... http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00307.html -Tom >From: Mathieu OUDART >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Re: Cygwin-Xfree 6.8.2.0-1 - Keyboard problem with Matlab 6.X >Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:43:04 +0200 > > >>>Hi all, >>> >>>I actually use Cygwin/X to display software from remote Unix servers. >>> >>>It really works fine except with matlab 6 : >>>When I launch matlab, the main window appears on my local display but >>>the keyboard seems inactive. >>>(I cannot type anything inside the matlab's command window) >>> >>>Moreover, a left click is a "paste" (?), middle is also "paste" while >>>the right click opens correctly the context menu. >> >> >>Maybe a problem with modifier keys. Try disabling numlock. >> >>bye >>ago > >Quite simple and it works .. thanks ! >and if anyone knows how I could get a working numpad that would be great ! > >-- >Mathieu OUDART > From gerrit@familiehaase.de Fri Jul 8 14:42:00 2005 From: gerrit@familiehaase.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 14:42:00 -0000 Subject: Gnome problem In-Reply-To: <000501c583af$884fbe10$dc2fb5d5@keloasc60pobkb> References: <000501c583af$884fbe10$dc2fb5d5@keloasc60pobkb> Message-ID: <42CE9003.3020102@familiehaase.de> Redirected to cygwin-xfree list. Alireza Ghasemi wrote: > Hello > I tried to compile gnome-libs with cygwin and in configuration phase I got > the following error : > " checking for gmodule support... no > configure: error: Dynamic linking is not available on this platform. Some > apps,like panel, will not run properly. " > Is there any idea about solving it ? And at all,What should I do if I want > to have Gnome in my cygwin ? What packages should I download ? > Thanks. There are several Gnome packages available in the GNOME category of Cygwin Setup, just start it: http://cygwqin.com/setup.exe and tell me which packages you are missing. From purban@kfa-inc.com Fri Jul 8 15:01:00 2005 From: purban@kfa-inc.com (Peter Urban) Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:01:00 -0000 Subject: Newbie needs help getting GUI Message-ID: <000501c583cd$da74f700$2101a8c0@KFA18> I installed Cygwin/X on an XP computer. I'm trying to connect to a Redhat workstation that allows an SSH connection. Launching Cygwin, I get the shell. Typing "ssh -Y - username hostname", I can successfully connect to the workstation and get a shell. Pardon what may be a simple question, but how do I get a GUI? I'm a *NIX newbie, so please speak slowly and be gentle. I've unsuccessfully tried to find the solution in the Cygwin documentation and the FAQs and the mailing lists. Thanks in advance for your help. -Peter From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Jul 8 15:35:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:35:00 -0000 Subject: Newbie needs help getting GUI In-Reply-To: <000501c583cd$da74f700$2101a8c0@KFA18> References: <000501c583cd$da74f700$2101a8c0@KFA18> Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Peter Urban wrote: > I installed Cygwin/X on an XP computer. I'm trying to connect to a > Redhat workstation that allows an SSH connection. Launching Cygwin, I > get the shell. Typing "ssh -Y - username hostname", I can successfully > connect to the workstation and get a shell. Pardon what may be a simple > question, but how do I get a GUI? Depending on the desktop environment you have to run different programs which startup the GUI: Gnome: gnome-session KDE: startkde CDE: dtsession X11: ~/.xinitrc (this will do the same as startx) You can start a single program by typing it's name: $ mozilla $ gimp You can add this to the ssh commandline for easy access: ssh -Y username@hostname gnome-session This will login and start the remote gnome desktop. Please note that running the remote desktop with multiwindow mode will result in a strange window layout, so are best used in the windowed mode (omiting the -multiwindow parameter). bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From purban@kfa-inc.com Fri Jul 8 19:41:00 2005 From: purban@kfa-inc.com (Peter Urban) Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 19:41:00 -0000 Subject: Newbie needs help getting GUI Message-ID: <000001c583f4$f8ebf7c0$2101a8c0@KFA18> Thanks for the quick response! I'm not certain which environment is available on the Red Hat machine and I don't have physical access to it. It's running Red Hat Enterprise 4. I tried 'ssh -Y username@hostname gnome-session' and get the following... (gnome-session:6144): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: Then, I tried 'ssh -Y username@hostname startkde' and get the following... /usr/bin/startkde: line 70: xsetroot: command not found /usr/bin/startkde: line 189: xset: command not found /usr/bin/startkde: line 192: xset: command not found /usr/bin/startkde: line 202: xsetroot: command not found startkde: Starting up... ksplash: cannot connect to X server kdeinit: Abortin. $DISPLAY is not set. Warning: connect() failed: :No such file or directory ksmserver: cannot connect to X server startkde: Shutting down... Warning: connect() failed: :No such file or directory Error: Can't contact kdeinit! startkde: Running shutdown scripts... startkde: Done. Is there something that must be configured on the Red Hat workstation? Thanks again! -Peter > -----Original Message----- > From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de > Subject: Newbie needs help getting GUI > > > Depending on the desktop environment you have to run different > programs > which startup the GUI: > > Gnome: gnome-session > KDE: startkde > CDE: dtsession > X11: ~/.xinitrc > (this will do the same as startx) > > You can start a single program by typing it's name: > > $ mozilla > $ gimp > > You can add this to the ssh commandline for easy access: > > ssh -Y username@hostname gnome-session > > This will login and start the remote gnome desktop. > Please note that running the remote desktop with multiwindow mode will > result in a strange window layout, so are best used in the windowed > mode (omiting the -multiwindow parameter). > > bye > ago > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Fri Jul 8 20:32:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 20:32:00 -0000 Subject: Newbie needs help getting GUI In-Reply-To: <000001c583f4$f8ebf7c0$2101a8c0@KFA18> References: <000001c583f4$f8ebf7c0$2101a8c0@KFA18> Message-ID: Ugh, top-posting. Reformatted... On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Peter Urban wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alexander.Gottwald@XXXXX.XX-XXXXXXXX.XX . Thanks. > > Subject: Newbie needs help getting GUI > > > > Depending on the desktop environment you have to run different > > programs which startup the GUI: > > > > Gnome: gnome-session > > KDE: startkde > > CDE: dtsession > > X11: ~/.xinitrc > > (this will do the same as startx) > > > > You can start a single program by typing it's name: > > > > $ mozilla > > $ gimp > > > > You can add this to the ssh commandline for easy access: > > > > ssh -Y username@hostname gnome-session > > > > This will login and start the remote gnome desktop. > > Please note that running the remote desktop with multiwindow mode will > > result in a strange window layout, so are best used in the windowed > > mode (omiting the -multiwindow parameter). > > Thanks for the quick response! I'm not certain which environment is > available on the Red Hat machine and I don't have physical access to it. > It's running Red Hat Enterprise 4. > > I tried 'ssh -Y username@hostname gnome-session' and get the > following... > > (gnome-session:6144): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: Either run the ssh command from an xterm that pops up when you start X, or set your DISPLAY in the shell that you run ssh from (i.e., run it as DISPLAY=:0 ssh -Y username@hostname gnome-session ). > Then, I tried 'ssh -Y username@hostname startkde' and get the > following... > > /usr/bin/startkde: line 70: xsetroot: command not found > /usr/bin/startkde: line 189: xset: command not found > /usr/bin/startkde: line 192: xset: command not found > /usr/bin/startkde: line 202: xsetroot: command not found > startkde: Starting up... > ksplash: cannot connect to X server > kdeinit: Abortin. $DISPLAY is not set. > Warning: connect() failed: :No such file or directory > ksmserver: cannot connect to X server > startkde: Shutting down... > Warning: connect() failed: :No such file or directory > Error: Can't contact kdeinit! > startkde: Running shutdown scripts... > startkde: Done. Same as above. > Is there something that must be configured on the Red Hat workstation? No, it's your local thing. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA From Phil.Betts@heis.co.uk Mon Jul 11 09:55:00 2005 From: Phil.Betts@heis.co.uk (Phil Betts) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 09:55:00 -0000 Subject: logout from gnome-session over ssh Message-ID: On Friday, July 01, 2005 4:30 AM, Ariel Millennium Thornton wrote: > >On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:35:33 -0400 Jerome Asselin wrote: > >> >From a cygwin bash shell, I run these commands: >> >> Xwin & >> export DISPLAY=:0 >> ssh -Y remoteserver -l user gnome-session >> >> This works fine until I try to logout from gnome-session. Logging out >> doesn't kill nautilus nor ssh (nor firefox). I have to manually kill >> the ssh command to terminate the gnome-session. >> >> How can I make it so that I can cleanly logout from gnome-session? >> > > This seems like a bug with ssh. I get the same thing ssh'ing from Linux > to Linux and from Windows to Linux. The problem is that the ssh session > won't end until every process started by it ends. If you're using ssh > as the client command for starting the X server, one workaround is to > log out normally, wait until only the persistent processes are running, > then hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to kill the server. > > If someone knows the real solution, I'd like to know it too. What I > present is only a workaround, not a solution. > > -ArielMT IIRC, my old Mandrake installation used to have, somewhere in its labyrinthine set of login scripts, a "shopt huponexit on" with a comment to the effect that it "fixed" the ssh logout problem. You could try putting something like the following in your ~/.bash_profile (assuming bash is your login shell in /etc/passwd) if [ -n "$SSH_CONNECTION" ];then shopt huponexit on fi I'm not sure how much you can rely on the SSH_CONNECTION variable being set, YMMV. Phil -- ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** From asselinj@exchange.umontreal.ca Mon Jul 11 22:11:00 2005 From: asselinj@exchange.umontreal.ca (Jerome Asselin) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:11:00 -0000 Subject: logout from gnome-session over ssh References: Message-ID: Phil Betts heis.co.uk> writes: <...snip...> > > IIRC, my old Mandrake installation used to have, somewhere in its > labyrinthine set of login scripts, a "shopt huponexit on" with a > comment to the effect that it "fixed" the ssh logout problem. > > You could try putting something like the following in your > ~/.bash_profile (assuming bash is your login shell in /etc/passwd) > > if [ -n "$SSH_CONNECTION" ];then > shopt huponexit on > fi > > I'm not sure how much you can rely on the SSH_CONNECTION variable > being set, YMMV. > > Phil > As you suggested, I've tried running shopt -s huponexit on the remote server I've ssh'ed to, but when I run gnome-session afterwards I still cannot completely logout interactively from gnome-session. For example, the firefox windows remain open after I attempt to logout interactively. Any other suggestions beside Ctrl-Alt-Backspace? Thanks, Jerome From ml@hpcaz.com Tue Jul 12 23:08:00 2005 From: ml@hpcaz.com (Thomas Smith) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:08:00 -0000 Subject: =?us-ascii?Q?Initial_run_of_BASH_doesn't_initialize_home_directory?= Message-ID: <200507122307.j6CN7d9i016140@hpcaz.hpcaz.com> I was able to get Cygwin to run without problems and then decided to try Cygwin/X to take advantage of X. I completely uninstalled Cygwin as follows: - Deleted the Desktop and Start Menu shortcuts. - Deleted C:\cygwin - Deleted Cygnus Solutions from the Registry. I removed all of the downloaded source Cygwin files and started the Cygwin/X installer--everything seems to install correctly. The only non-default packages I select are: gcc vim nano inetutils openssh xorg-x11-base xorg-x11-devel xorg-x11-man-pages When I start the Cygwin Bash Shell for the first, I get dropped to a shell prompt and placed in /usr/bin. My Home directory isn't created and the general Cygwin environment doesn't work--that is, I'm not able to execute any commands. In fact, no files even appear in /usr/bin. I've researched this problem and haven't been able to locate a solution. I'm also not sure how to start troubleshooting it. Any ideas as to how I can start troubleshooting this problem? Thanks in advance! Tom From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Wed Jul 13 05:25:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 05:25:00 -0000 Subject: =?us-ascii?Q?Initial_run_of_BASH_doesn't_initialize_home_directory?= In-Reply-To: <200507122307.j6CN7d9i016140@hpcaz.hpcaz.com> References: <200507122307.j6CN7d9i016140@hpcaz.hpcaz.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Thomas Smith wrote: > I was able to get Cygwin to run without problems and then decided to try > Cygwin/X to take advantage of X. > > I completely uninstalled Cygwin... Why?! > ...as follows: > > - Deleted the Desktop and Start Menu shortcuts. > - Deleted C:\cygwin > - Deleted Cygnus Solutions from the Registry. > > I removed all of the downloaded source Cygwin files and started the > Cygwin/X installer--everything seems to install correctly. The only There is no such thing as a Cygwin/X installer. There is a Cygwin installer which installs the xorg-* family of Cygwin packages. > non-default packages I select are: > > gcc > vim > nano > inetutils > openssh > xorg-x11-base > xorg-x11-devel > xorg-x11-man-pages > > When I start the Cygwin Bash Shell for the first, I get dropped to a > shell prompt and placed in /usr/bin. My Home directory isn't created and > the general Cygwin environment doesn't work--that is, I'm not able to > execute any commands. In fact, no files even appear in /usr/bin. This isn't an X-related problem, and thus belongs on the main Cygwin list. Please remove cygwin-xfree from further messages. > I've researched this problem and haven't been able to locate a solution. > I'm also not sure how to start troubleshooting it. > > Any ideas as to how I can start troubleshooting this problem? Please read and follow the Cygwin problem reporting guidelines at . Please pay particular attention to the part that asks you to attach the output of "cygcheck -svr". It might also help to know how you're starting bash. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA From ml@hpcaz.com Wed Jul 13 06:22:00 2005 From: ml@hpcaz.com (Tom Smith) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 06:22:00 -0000 Subject: Initial run of BASH doesn't initialize home directory In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200507130622.j6D6Ma9i015546@hpcaz.hpcaz.com> With all due respect, Igor, I think you missed my point. The point is this: 1) I ran the Cygwin "setup.exe" and the Cygwin/X "setup.exe" (a distinction made by the cygwin.com web site itself) on the same computer. 2) The Cygwin/X installation gave me grief as mentioned in my initial post. 3) The Cygwin installation gave me no grief and worked perfectly. Therefore, my conclusion was that there's something different between the two installation routines--is this not a rational conclusion? I apologize for not including the output of "cygcheck -svr". I no longer have Cygwin/X installed so this will have to wait until tomorrow. Based on what I mentioned above, is this still something I should take to the Cygwin list? On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Thomas Smith wrote: > I was able to get Cygwin to run without problems and then decided to try > Cygwin/X to take advantage of X. > > I completely uninstalled Cygwin... Why?! > ...as follows: > > - Deleted the Desktop and Start Menu shortcuts. > - Deleted C:\cygwin > - Deleted Cygnus Solutions from the Registry. > > I removed all of the downloaded source Cygwin files and started the > Cygwin/X installer--everything seems to install correctly. The only There is no such thing as a Cygwin/X installer. There is a Cygwin installer which installs the xorg-* family of Cygwin packages. > non-default packages I select are: > > gcc > vim > nano > inetutils > openssh > xorg-x11-base > xorg-x11-devel > xorg-x11-man-pages > > When I start the Cygwin Bash Shell for the first, I get dropped to a > shell prompt and placed in /usr/bin. My Home directory isn't created and > the general Cygwin environment doesn't work--that is, I'm not able to > execute any commands. In fact, no files even appear in /usr/bin. This isn't an X-related problem, and thus belongs on the main Cygwin list. Please remove cygwin-xfree from further messages. > I've researched this problem and haven't been able to locate a solution. > I'm also not sure how to start troubleshooting it. > > Any ideas as to how I can start troubleshooting this problem? Please read and follow the Cygwin problem reporting guidelines at . Please pay particular attention to the part that asks you to attach the output of "cygcheck -svr". It might also help to know how you're starting bash. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA From Klaus.Kassner@physik.uni-magdeburg.de Wed Jul 13 11:10:00 2005 From: Klaus.Kassner@physik.uni-magdeburg.de (Klaus Kassner) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:10:00 -0000 Subject: Initial run of BASH doesn't initialize home directory In-Reply-To: <200507130622.j6D6Ma9i015546@hpcaz.hpcaz.com> References: <200507130622.j6D6Ma9i015546@hpcaz.hpcaz.com> Message-ID: Tom Smith schrieb: > With all due respect, Igor, I think you missed my point. > > The point is this: > > 1) I ran the Cygwin "setup.exe" and the Cygwin/X "setup.exe" (a distinction > made by the cygwin.com web site itself) on the same computer. This distinction is apparently confusing. The two files setup.exe are identical. > 2) The Cygwin/X installation gave me grief as mentioned in my initial post. > 3) The Cygwin installation gave me no grief and worked perfectly. From Reid.Thompson@ateb.com Wed Jul 13 13:41:00 2005 From: Reid.Thompson@ateb.com (Reid Thompson) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:41:00 -0000 Subject: Initial run of BASH doesn't initialize home directory Message-ID: Tom Smith wrote: > With all due respect, Igor, I think you missed my point. > > The point is this: > > 1) I ran the Cygwin "setup.exe" and the Cygwin/X "setup.exe" > (a distinction made by the cygwin.com web site itself) on the > same computer. It's the same installer, just linked to different pages with different text. > 2) The Cygwin/X installation gave me grief as mentioned in my initial > post. 3) The Cygwin installation gave me no grief and worked > perfectly. Run the installer once selecting all the non-X stuff you want. Setup your environment like you want it. Run the installer again, selecting all the X stuff you want. > > Therefore, my conclusion was that there's something different > between the two installation routines--is this not a rational > conclusion? > > I apologize for not including the output of "cygcheck -svr". > I no longer have Cygwin/X installed so this will have to wait > until tomorrow. > > Based on what I mentioned above, is this still something I > should take to the Cygwin list? reid From lisandro@weissheimer.eti.br Thu Jul 14 17:29:00 2005 From: lisandro@weissheimer.eti.br (Lisandro Weissheimer) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:29:00 -0000 Subject: How do I add my site as a mirror Message-ID: <42D6A1EC.7020706@weissheimer.eti.br> Hi! What do I have to do to add my website as a mirror? Thanks! -- ______________________________________ Lisandro Weissheimer lisandro@weissheimer.eti.br http://www.weissheimer.eti.br MSN: lisandroweissheimer@hotmail.com ICQ: 124160866 Skype: lisandrow _______________________________________ From ross_macgillivray@yahoo.ca Thu Jul 14 18:01:00 2005 From: ross_macgillivray@yahoo.ca (Ross MacGillivray) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:01:00 -0000 Subject: KDE Init X client not Communicating with Cygwin X server Message-ID: I am getting the following error from kdeinit 3.4.1 Xclient running on Cywin(see below at end of listing)when it tries to communicate with the Cygwin/X server: winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 400 300 winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_lock () returned. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_lock () returned. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. winInitMultiWindowWM - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winProcEstablishConnection - Clipboard is not enabled, returning. access control disabled, clients can connect from any host / winMultiWindowXMsgProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winInitMultiWindowWM - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. kdeinit: Launched DCOPServer, pid = 1028 result = 0 DCOP: register 'anonymous-1028' -> number of clients is now 1 DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-1028' kdeinit: Launched KLauncher, pid = 224 result = 0 DCOP: register 'klauncher' -> number of clients is now 1 DCOP: new daemon klauncher kdeinit: Launched KDED, pid = 3436 result = 0 DCOP: register 'kded' -> number of clients is now 1 DCOP: unregister 'kded' DCOP: register 'kded' -> number of clients is now 1 DCOP: register 'anonymous-3436' -> number of clients is now 2 kio (KDirWatch): Available methods: Stat kdeinit: Got EXT_EXEC 'kbuildsycoca' from launcher. Unknown ClientMessage Unknown ClientMessage Unknown ClientMessage Unknown ClientMessage Unknown ClientMessage kio (KLauncher): kbuildsycoca (pid 1076) up and running. winMultiWindowXMsgProcErrorHandler - ERROR: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) Unknown ClientMessage Unknown ClientMessage As can be seen in the listing above the Cygwin Xserver is opening correctly. The Xserver is visable in the windows XP system tray, but there are no KDE windows visable in the Xserver only the grey root display. How do I configure my choice of window manager with KDE on Cygwin and could that be the problem here? Is there a method to get more detailed diagnosic messages from the Cygwin Xserver? /Ross From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Jul 14 18:26:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:26:00 -0000 Subject: KDE Init X client not Communicating with Cygwin X server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Ross MacGillivray wrote: > As can be seen in the listing above the Cygwin Xserver is opening > correctly. The Xserver is visable in the windows XP system tray, but > there are no KDE windows visable in the Xserver only the grey root > display. kde usually starts with startkde. But I don't know how kde works on cygwin. > How do I configure my choice of window manager with KDE on Cygwin > and could that be the problem here? First you have to start Cygwin/X in windowed mode (remove -multiwindow from the XWin commandline). Then use the method kde provides. > Is there a method to get more detailed diagnosic messages from > the Cygwin Xserver? Compile it with enabled debug messages. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Thu Jul 14 18:34:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:34:00 -0000 Subject: How do I add my site as a mirror In-Reply-To: <42D6A1EC.7020706@weissheimer.eti.br> References: <42D6A1EC.7020706@weissheimer.eti.br> Message-ID: This has nothing to do with Cygwin/X. Redirecting to the main cygwin list. Please remove cygwin-xfree from further messages in this thread. On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Lisandro Weissheimer wrote: > What do I have to do to add my website as a mirror? See , last sentence before "Site List". 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From hyousefi@yahoo.com Sun Jul 17 07:05:00 2005 From: hyousefi@yahoo.com (Homayoun Yousefi'zadeh) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 07:05:00 -0000 Subject: Setup Version 2.457.2.2: SSH X11 Forwarding McAfee Message-ID: <20050717070546.30795.qmail@web53502.mail.yahoo.com> Hello there, I have two identical full installations of cygwin that came with setup version 2.457.2.2 on two XP machines. One machine is running Zonealarm basic and the second McAfee security center. Both firewalls have properly assigned permissions to X11 programs and ssh. I use these machines to access Redhat servers using ssh -X and ssh -Y to enable X11 forwarding. I open an xterm from within a cygwin wmaker session and issue ssh commands. The machine with Zonealarm has no problem, i.e., it does login and function properly. The second machine with McAfee is able to login using ssh without any -X or -Y switch but the xterm hangs after I have entered the passwd when -X or -Y switches are included. I have performed another test scenario on the machine with McAfee. When I open an ssh session from putty and enable X11 tunneling, I can login and issue X commands from my putty session which results in executing those commands inside my wmaker session with no problem. Can somebody shed some light on how I can fix the problem with my XP machine running McAfee, i.e, I want to be able to run ssh command from within wmaker while enabling -X or -Y switches. Regards, HY __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Angelo.Graziosi@roma1.infn.it Sun Jul 17 23:56:00 2005 From: Angelo.Graziosi@roma1.infn.it (Angelo Graziosi) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 23:56:00 -0000 Subject: Emacs problem after rebaseall: some progresses? Message-ID: As you can see in the mailing lists, I have posted this question a few times. Now I have discovered somethings at which you can give a more adeguate answer. The problem is that after "rebaseall" Emacs does not works, it takes all the CPU and its window does not appear so that one can only kill its process. After the new release of rebase-2.4-1, the problem remains BUT this time reinstalling, with "setup", ONLY the package libncurses7 (whose current release is 5.3-4), EMACS works again! Rebasing all and then reinstalling a package that has just rebased : is it a valid procedure? Or should one expect that some other application does not work any more? Best regards, angelo. From per.opstad@tandberg.net Mon Jul 18 09:14:00 2005 From: per.opstad@tandberg.net (Per Otto Opstad) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:14:00 -0000 Subject: X cannot open connection Message-ID: <707B122EB5A55444ABBB0B2909CC98F12B12FF@47mail.eu.tandberg.int> I have used X for a while now and everything worked fine until now. Suddenly i only get the "disconnected" screen all the time. This is the same screen you get when you plug out your LAN cable. I have tried to restart my computer - no change. When i use cygwin i can ssh to the computer i try to connect to. I use no firewall. I try to run: C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe -query 10.0.0.62 Do you have eny idea on what's causing this? I get no warnings when starting up. Per Otto From gdidi@hyperroll.com Mon Jul 18 12:20:00 2005 From: gdidi@hyperroll.com (Yariv Gdidi) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:20:00 -0000 Subject: icewm - Xlib: unexpected async reply Message-ID: <007401c58b92$ece05ca0$1601010a@int.hyperroll.com> Hi, I need help with a strange problem I'm having with IceWM on Cygwin. I have had this problem for a long time, though I have made several updates to the X server since I first stumbled upon it. Basically, after working with IceWM with no problems for months on end, Cygwin X server suddenly freezes (can't open new /resize the xterm, etc.) and not even a reinstallation of Cygwin has solved this problem. When starting IceWM manually, then xterm, I receive the following error: Xlib: sequence lost (0x10041 > 0x735) in reply type 0x90! Xlib: sequence lost (0x10000 > 0x735) in reply type 0x1! Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x0)! FYI - this has happened on several machines (win2k, winxp, hyper threading and non hyper threading), while the same installation works well on others. regards Yariv Gdidi From per.opstad@tandberg.net Mon Jul 18 13:26:00 2005 From: per.opstad@tandberg.net (Per Otto Opstad) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:26:00 -0000 Subject: Cannot start X, please advice Message-ID: <707B122EB5A55444ABBB0B2909CC98F12B13C4@47mail.eu.tandberg.int> Please see log: Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-4 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin_GL -query 10.0.0.62 _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information (==) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TT F/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X1 1R6/lib/ X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff glWinInitVisuals:1476: glWinInitVisuals glWinInitVisualConfigs:1383: glWinInitVisualConfigs glWinSetVisualConfigs:1461: glWinSetVisualConfigs init_visuals:906: init_visuals MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shar ed memory support in the kernel glWinScreenProbe:1270: glWinScreenProbe fixup_visuals:1160: fixup_visuals init_screen_visuals:1193: init_screen_visuals (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000414" (00000414) (--) Using preset keyboard for "Norwegian" (414), type "4" Rules = "xorg" Model = "pc105" Layout = "no" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null )" (--) 6 mouse buttons found Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from li st! glWinRealizeWindow:709: glWinRealizeWindow winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 637 473 XDM: too many retransmissions, declaring session dead glWinResetExtension:1369: glWinResetExtension (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information (==) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TT F/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X1 1R6/lib/ X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff glWinInitVisuals:1476: glWinInitVisuals glWinInitVisualConfigs:1383: glWinInitVisualConfigs glWinSetVisualConfigs:1461: glWinSetVisualConfigs init_visuals:906: init_visuals MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shar ed memory support in the kernel glWinScreenProbe:1270: glWinScreenProbe fixup_visuals:1160: fixup_visuals init_screen_visuals:1193: init_screen_visuals (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000414" (00000414) (--) Using preset keyboard for "Norwegian" (414), type "4" Rules = "xorg" Model = "pc105" Layout = "no" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null )" (--) 6 mouse buttons found Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from li st! glWinRealizeWindow:709: glWinRealizeWindow XDM: too many retransmissions, declaring session dead glWinResetExtension:1369: glWinResetExtension (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information (==) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TT F/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X1 1R6/lib/ X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff glWinInitVisuals:1476: glWinInitVisuals glWinInitVisualConfigs:1383: glWinInitVisualConfigs glWinSetVisualConfigs:1461: glWinSetVisualConfigs init_visuals:906: init_visuals MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shar ed memory support in the kernel glWinScreenProbe:1270: glWinScreenProbe fixup_visuals:1160: fixup_visuals init_screen_visuals:1193: init_screen_visuals (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000414" (00000414) (--) Using preset keyboard for "Norwegian" (414), type "4" Rules = "xorg" Model = "pc105" Layout = "no" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null )" (--) 6 mouse buttons found Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from li st! glWinRealizeWindow:709: glWinRealizeWindow What is wrong? I have tried to reinstall the fonts, and I have checked if there is a old .dll file somewhere. Please advice. I know this chould work, since my colleguas have the exact same setup. From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Jul 18 15:22:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:22:00 -0000 Subject: Cannot start X, please advice In-Reply-To: <707B122EB5A55444ABBB0B2909CC98F12B13C4@47mail.eu.tandberg.int> References: <707B122EB5A55444ABBB0B2909CC98F12B13C4@47mail.eu.tandberg.int> Message-ID: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Per Otto Opstad wrote: > Please see log: > > Welcome to the XWin X Server > Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project > Release: 6.8.2.0-4 > > Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > XWin was started with the following command line: > > /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin_GL -query 10.0.0.62 first: The accelerated opengl server is quite useless without running in multiwindow mode. Using -query requires a windowed (not multiwindow mode) so this setup will lead to trouble anyway. > XDM: too many retransmissions, declaring session dead > What is wrong? I have tried to reinstall the fonts, and I have checked > if there is a old .dll file somewhere. Check the FAQ about XDMCP and -query problems. You can't reach the xdm server maybe -from does help bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From colin.harrison@virgin.net Mon Jul 18 19:07:00 2005 From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (Colin Harrison) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:07:00 -0000 Subject: Stacktrace on XWin with latest cygwin snapshots Message-ID: <200507181907.j6IJ77T4012686@StraightRunning.com> Hi, Since about 5th July, cygwin snapshots have caused my setup to stacktrace when I run a client to XWin (6.8.2.0-4 multiwindow gl). Is this just happening to me? Either way could be an upstream problem somewhere? Thanks Colin Harrison From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Mon Jul 18 19:27:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:27:00 -0000 Subject: Stacktrace on XWin with latest cygwin snapshots In-Reply-To: <200507181907.j6IJ77T4012686@StraightRunning.com> References: <200507181907.j6IJ77T4012686@StraightRunning.com> Message-ID: <20050718192718.GA12921@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 08:07:07PM +0100, Colin Harrison wrote: >Since about 5th July, cygwin snapshots have caused my setup to stacktrace >when I run a client to XWin (6.8.2.0-4 multiwindow gl). WJFFM. >Is this just happening to me? Either way could be an upstream problem >somewhere? If it is, you're going to have to provide more details. From colin.harrison@virgin.net Mon Jul 18 21:45:00 2005 From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (Colin Harrison) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:45:00 -0000 Subject: Stacktrace on XWin with latest cygwin snapshots Message-ID: <200507182145.j6ILjqQo005840@StraightRunning.com> Hi, Thanks for the clue, installed and tested on another system, XP sp2, OK. Faulty system is a Windows Server 2003 sp1. stackdumps with cygwin1.dll's after Build date 2005-07-02 22:44. I'll delve deeper after checking the installation is OK. Thanks Colin Harrison From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Tue Jul 19 00:14:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 00:14:00 -0000 Subject: Stacktrace on XWin with latest cygwin snapshots In-Reply-To: <200507182145.j6ILjqQo005840@StraightRunning.com> References: <200507182145.j6ILjqQo005840@StraightRunning.com> Message-ID: <20050719001432.GA18687@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 10:45:52PM +0100, Colin Harrison wrote: >Thanks for the clue, installed and tested on another system, XP sp2, >OK. Faulty system is a Windows Server 2003 sp1. stackdumps with >cygwin1.dll's after Build date 2005-07-02 22:44. I'll delve deeper >after checking the installation is OK. Once again: it works just fine for me. http://cygwin.com/problems.html might be instructive about what I meant re "details". Please provide the info mentioned there as well as the info implied there, like what *exactly* you are doing to cause the problem. If you're getting a stackdump, then please also provide the stackdump. From colin.harrison@virgin.net Tue Jul 19 07:54:00 2005 From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (Colin Harrison) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 07:54:00 -0000 Subject: Stacktrace on XWin with latest cygwin snapshots Message-ID: <200507190754.j6J7sWDg021287@StraightRunning.com> Hi, Tried a completely fresh install from the net. Still stacks. Steps to reproduce. 1) Running cygserver as a service with 'latest' cygwin1.dll snapshot (16th July) 2) Start X11 (multiwindow) using run XWin :2 -emulate3buttons -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error -clipupdates 5 -fp tcp/verbier.straightrunning.com:7100 3) Run xeyes from cygwin shell. stackdump text:- Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=00000000 eax=00000000 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=7C82EEC6 esi=00000000 edi=00000000 ebp=0022E0B4 esp=0022E094 program=C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe, pid 3252, thread main cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003B gs=0000 ss=0023 Stack trace: Frame Function Args End of stack trace cygcheck.out attached. Thanks Colin Harrison -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: cygcheck.out Type: application/octet-stream Size: 21195 bytes Desc: not available URL: From swp5jhu02@sneakemail.com Tue Jul 19 18:52:00 2005 From: swp5jhu02@sneakemail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Peter_Valdemar_M=F8rch?=) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:52:00 -0000 Subject: Xlib: unexpected async reply Message-ID: <42DD4BDD.9060300@sneakemail.com> When using CygwinX I get this error message when trying to start my very simple java application (that I got verbatim from a SUN example): Xlib: unexpected async reply(sequence 0x7c)! (The number 0x7d has also been seen) The java application does not start and the window doesn't appear at all. Using another X server e.g. Xorg the same java application using the same java virtual machine does not generate this error. The logs do not contain anything from after start-up of the server is complete. I've seen the answer when searching this list that it may be a network problem, but the client and server are connencted on the same hub, and it happens regardless if I have a direct X connection with DISPLAY=xserver:0 or if I tunnel it inside ssh. I haven't yet seen this with any other X applications. And I have the exact same setup on another windows host, where it also happens, and I've tried starting the java app from two different Linux servers too running the exact same version of java - same result. There are some java virtual machine versions where it fails, and some where it works... It works with the latest jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin but fails with j2sdk-1_4_2_08-linux-i586.bin both from SUN. Regardless, it should either fail with all X-servers or work with all of them, right? (We're stuck with the old version, of course :-D) Any ideas why this is happening? (I don't mind giving ssh access to my server to a developer to try it out, but not to the world! :-D) Peter Here: http://www.morch.com/misc/cygwinX/XlibUnexpectedAsyncReply/ is a link to supporting information: -rw-r--r-- 1 pvm users 311 Jul 19 19:45 HelloWorldSwing$1.class -rw-r--r-- 1 pvm users 961 Jul 19 19:45 HelloWorldSwing.class -rw-r--r-- 1 pvm users 1158 Jul 19 19:23 HelloWorldSwing.java -rw-r--r-- 1 pvm users XXXX Jul 19 19:55 Posting.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 pvm users 2941 Jul 19 19:37 XWin.log -rw-r--r-- 1 pvm users 3333 Jul 19 19:37 XWin.out -rw-r--r-- 1 pvm users 13909 Jul 19 19:42 cygcheckDashS.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 pvm users 58 Jul 19 19:42 cygcheckDashS_STDERR.txt -rwx------ 1 pvm users 8737 Jul 19 19:43 startxwin.bat -rw-r--r-- 1 pvm users 498 Jul 19 19:47 xterm.out -- Peter Valdemar M??rch http://www.morch.com From sronan@ctcnet.org Wed Jul 20 03:59:00 2005 From: sronan@ctcnet.org (Stephen Ronan) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:59:00 -0000 Subject: Change of contact info Message-ID: <200507200358.j6K3wG480354@ctcnet.org> Hi I am no longer on CTCNet staff and do not receive email directed to this address. I can now be reached at sronan2005@comcast.net. For any CTCNet-related business, please contact CTCNet's Executive Director, Kavita Singh, at ks2005@ctcnet.org. Thanks, Steve Ronan From stephen.p.harris@sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 20 06:01:00 2005 From: stephen.p.harris@sbcglobal.net (Stephen Harris) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 06:01:00 -0000 Subject: flpsed Message-ID: <002301c58cf0$5478f4e0$0301a8c0@textonyx> Hello, I am looking for an alternative to Adobe Writer Pro and Adobe Acrobat Reader for annotating pdf or ps files. I tried to compile flpsed and it failed maybe due to the fltk dependency being unsatisfied with X11. I am currently using xfree86 for the X server for the Windows cygwin LyX version. Cygwin is most recent. Has anyone made progress with compiling flpsed? http://www.ecademix.com/JohannesHofmann/ flpsed see the annotation at bottom of the page on tiger.ps I first installed fltk 1.1.6 which appeared to work but flpsed would not configure. I removed fltk 1.1.6 and tried with 1.1 which was the version number of the dependency found at the flpsed website. It also seemed to configure --with-cygwin ; then make and make install without a hitch. But when I progressed to the flpsed-0.3.5 ./configure --with-cygwin , it went aways and then exited with the last two lines after checking and finding fltk-config: checking for open in -lX11 ... no Error LibX11.so not found I use xfree86 as my x server for my cygwin windows lyx, perhaps there is a conflict? I have all the files for both Xfree and X11 org installed and the compatibility file. There is no LibXll.so native to my computer. I stole one from a Debian Xlib file, desperately, as it didn't work without one. Nor do I have LibX11.so.6 or LibX11.so.6.2 though I see them mentioned; they don't come in any currently available Cygwin package (even obsolete). I am weak on command line ./configure syntax ; I tried exporting the path to the X11 directory from the command line. It didn't seem to make any difference. The only discrepancy was I saw a mention of no png.h found and I have two. I looked in the mailing archives and found no mention of libx11.so and a few mentions of -lX11 and it was recommended to use this list. Best regards, Stephen From brian@dessent.net Wed Jul 20 08:12:00 2005 From: brian@dessent.net (Brian Dessent) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 08:12:00 -0000 Subject: compiling flpsed under Cygwin References: <42DDB680.30303@alltel.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050719225728.03ce4120@pop.prospeed.net> Message-ID: <42DE0837.A91E1C80@dessent.net> "Stephen P. Harris" wrote: > Well I installed LyX 1.3.1 before the current port to native Windows, > LyX 1.3.6. So I used the recommendation found at the porter's website. What he means is that Cygwin/X long ago transitioned from XFree86 to X.org for the X server. If you are still using the ancient XFree86 packages you would be very well advised to remove them and install the xorg-x11-* packages. From the standpoint of the application it doesn't matter, X11 is X11. > I think fltk compiles and installs ok. The ./configure for > flpsed fails after finding fltk-config at the next two lines: > > Checking for open in -lX11 ... no > Error LixXll.so not found [doesn't come with Cygwin] You need the -devel package installed (xorg-x11-devel) and then you can link with -lX11. Again, this is why we ask for people to post the output of "cygcheck -svr" when asking for help so that we can see what packages you have installed. Brian From Dr.Volker.Zell@oracle.com Wed Jul 20 11:36:00 2005 From: Dr.Volker.Zell@oracle.com (Dr. Volker Zell) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 11:36:00 -0000 Subject: AltGr doesn't produce @|{[]}\~ Message-ID: <87fyu9d7tg.fsf@vzell-de.de.oracle.com> Hi list My AltGr-Key doesn't produce the following chars @|{[]}\~ anymore under X. This is on a german keyboard (Toshiba Laptop - Tecra) after an upgrade to the latest bash, XWin, coreutils and a rebaseall afterwards. Everything is fine in a non-X bash window. Any ideas how to debug this. Here my XWin.log: Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-4 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: X -ac -nodecoration -rootless -nowinkill -clipboard -fp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X1 1R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/local/share/emacs/fonts/,/ usr/local/share/emacs/fonts/bdf/,/usr/local/share/emacs/fonts/Type1/,/usr/local/share/emacs/fonts/TrueType/,/c/WINNT/Font s/,/usr/local/share/fonts/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Ethiopic/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyri llic/ ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information (++) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/10 0dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/loca l/share/emacs/fonts/,/usr/local/share/emacs/fonts/bdf/,/usr/local/share/emacs/fonts/Type1/,/usr/local/share/emacs/fonts/T rueType/,/c/WINNT/Fonts/,/usr/local/share/fonts/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Ethiopic/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X1 1R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/" (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=250, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000407" (00000407) (--) Using preset keyboard for "German (Germany)" (407), type "4" (--) 3 mouse buttons found winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winInitClipboard () winClipboardProc - Hello winProcEstablishConnection - winInitClipboard returned. DetectUnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP winClipboardProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winClipboardProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. Ciao Volker From Dr.Volker.Zell@oracle.com Wed Jul 20 18:48:00 2005 From: Dr.Volker.Zell@oracle.com (Dr. Volker Zell) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:48:00 -0000 Subject: AltGr doesn't produce @|{[]}\~ In-Reply-To: <87fyu9d7tg.fsf@vzell-de.de.oracle.com> (Volker Zell's message of "Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:40:27 +0200") References: <87fyu9d7tg.fsf@vzell-de.de.oracle.com> Message-ID: <87ackh9uqd.fsf@vzell-de.de.oracle.com> >>>>> Volker Zell writes: > Hi list > My AltGr-Key doesn't produce the following chars @|{[]}\~ anymore under X. This > is on a german keyboard (Toshiba Laptop - Tecra) after an upgrade to the > latest bash, XWin, coreutils and a rebaseall afterwards. > Everything is fine in a non-X bash window. > Any ideas how to debug this. Some more info from xev when pressing for example AltGr and the | sign: This is from my Laptop: ----------------------- KeyPress event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x1200001, root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 40663360, (72,-11), root:(97,540), state 0x0, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyPress event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x1200001, root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 40663360, (72,-11), root:(97,540), state 0x4, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyPress event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x1200001, root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 40666194, (72,-11), root:(97,540), state 0x84, keycode 94 (keysym 0x7c, bar), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (1c) "" XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (1c) "" XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x1200001, root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 40666295, (72,-11), root:(97,540), state 0x84, keycode 94 (keysym 0x7c, bar), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (1c) "" KeyRelease event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x1200001, root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 40666675, (72,-11), root:(97,540), state 0x84, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: KeyRelease event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x1200001, root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 40666685, (72,-11), root:(97,540), state 0x80, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: This is from my PC where it works OK: ------------------------------------- KeyPress event, serial 21, synthetic NO, window 0x1400001, root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 221288, (8,184), root:(717,207), state 0x0, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyPress event, serial 24, synthetic NO, window 0x1400001, root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 222740, (8,184), root:(717,207), state 0x80, keycode 94 (keysym 0x7c, bar), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (7c) "|" XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (7c) "|" XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 24, synthetic NO, window 0x1400001, root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 222870, (8,184), root:(717,207), state 0x80, keycode 94 (keysym 0x7c, bar), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (7c) "|" KeyRelease event, serial 24, synthetic NO, window 0x1400001, root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 223120, (8,184), root:(717,207), state 0x80, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: KeyPress event, serial 24, synthetic NO, window 0x1400001, root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 270198, (8,184), root:(717,207), state 0x0, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 24, synthetic NO, window 0x1400001, root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 271480, (8,184), root:(717,207), state 0x8, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: Ciao Volker From Stephen_P_Harris@hotmail.com Wed Jul 20 19:03:00 2005 From: Stephen_P_Harris@hotmail.com (Stephen P. Harris) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:03:00 -0000 Subject: compiling flpsed under Cygwin References: <42DDB680.30303@alltel.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050719225728.03ce4120@pop.prospeed.net> <42DE0837.A91E1C80@dessent.net> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Dessent" To: "Cygwin List" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 1:15 AM Subject: Re: compiling flpsed under Cygwin > "Stephen P. Harris" wrote: >> I think fltk compiles and installs ok. The ./configure for >> flpsed fails after finding fltk-config at the next two lines: >> >> Checking for open in -lX11 ... no >> Error LixXll.so not found [doesn't come with Cygwin] > > You need the -devel package installed (xorg-x11-devel) and then you can > link with -lX11. Again, this is why we ask for people to post the > output of "cygcheck -svr" when asking for help so that we can see what > packages you have installed. > > Brian > You are responding on the mailing list in which I posted: "I use xfree86 as my x server for my cygwin windows lyx, perhaps there is a conflict? I have all the files for both Xfree and X11 org installed and the compatibility file. There is no LibXll.so native to my computer." Since all includes (xorg-x11-devel) your advice must be speculative since that is not the solution. I only want speculative advice from someone who has succeeded in compiling flpsed. You use the term "we" ... I hope you are not representative of the caliber of support available on this mailing list. Brian wrote: "If you are still using the ancient XFree86 packages you would be very well advised to remove them and install the xorg-x11-* packages. From the standpoint of the application it doesn't matter, X11 is X11." Previously SH wrote: Claus also includes a startxwin.bat; so maybe I could change it easily or maybe not, it it ain't broke don't fix it. I don't see how you could be sure that the script will work just as well with either X-org or Xfree?? Unless you know the syntax for both services are exactly the same; otherwise you would have to read the script in order to know that and I don't believe that somebody who can't be bothered to read this thread before posting took the time to examine the content of startwinx.bat so that you could be in a position to make an informed remark to the effect that the script is universal because the syntax of the script is exactly the same for both servers. I did not ask whether Xfree was deprecated in favor of Xorg. What you wrote indicates that it is not the choice of active server which dictates whether flpsed will compile or not, as long as the requisite libraries are installed for Xorg-devel. I did not ask for your opinion on matters that did not have a direct bearing on the compilation of flsped. Nor do I value anyone's speculative opinion who has not compiled flpsed, and you especially since you are inattentive to detail. I'm being polite; however I have no confidence that a word to the wise will be sufficient. You come across as a college kid. Brian wrote: If you are still using the ancient XFree86 packages you would be very well advised to remove them and install the xorg-x11-* packages. Pontificate on your own dime. My point has nothing to do with the correctness of your advice, but the irrelevancy of it to flpsed. Don't you or any of your ilk waste my time any more, Stephen From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Jul 20 20:15:00 2005 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:15:00 -0000 Subject: AltGr doesn't produce @|{[]}\~ In-Reply-To: <87ackh9uqd.fsf@vzell-de.de.oracle.com> References: <87fyu9d7tg.fsf@vzell-de.de.oracle.com> <87ackh9uqd.fsf@vzell-de.de.oracle.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Dr. Volker Zell wrote: > KeyPress event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x1200001, > root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 40663360, (72,-11), root:(97,540), > state 0x0, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, > XLookupString gives 0 bytes: > XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: > XFilterEvent returns: False An alt-gr is usually reported as control + alt keypress. There is special code which tries to identify those wrong messages from real control + alt keypresses. Somehow the distinction does not work properly for you because 1) the control and alt messages have different timestamps 2) the extended key flag for the control key is set 3) a message in the range from [WM_KEYDOWN..WM_SYSKEYDOWN] is reported between the control and alt message. Those messages are WM_KEYUP, WM_CHAR, WM_DEADCHAR If reverting to xorg-x11-xwin-6.8.2.0-3 does fix the problem then it's most likely the third case. I hope I can provide a fix in the next days. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Wed Jul 20 20:37:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:37:00 -0000 Subject: compiling flpsed under Cygwin In-Reply-To: References: <42DDB680.30303@alltel.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050719225728.03ce4120@pop.prospeed.net> <42DE0837.A91E1C80@dessent.net> Message-ID: <20050720203712.GA12065@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 12:02:55PM -0700, Stephen P. Harris wrote: >I did not ask for your opinion on matters that did not have a direct >bearing on the compilation of flsped. Nor do I value anyone's >speculative opinion who has not compiled flpsed, and you especially >since you are inattentive to detail. I'm being polite; however I have >no confidence that a word to the wise will be sufficient. You come >across as a college kid. Actually, sorry but you are not being polite. You are not providing enough details to debug your problem so any attempts to help you are going to be purely speculative. The details you have provided are 0. You can't configure flpsed: "But when I progressed to the flpsed-0.3.5 ./configure --with-cygwin , it went aways and then exited with the last two lines after checking and finding fltk-config: checking for open in -lX11 ... no Error LibX11.so not found" 1. you may be using an old version of X11 "I use xfree86 as my x server for my cygwin windows lyx" (sic) 2. but you also X11.org installed "I have all the files for both Xfree and X11 org installed..." 3. but not to worry because you also have "the compatibility file". 4. You think you're missing a LibX11.so (sic) file, so you've copied one from a linux system to your windows system. "There is no LibXll.so native to my computer. I stole one from a Debian Xlib file (sic), desperately..." 5. You are unclear on how to use ./configure. "I am weak on command line ./configure syntax" To take these in order: 0. Cygwin/Windows do not use .so files. Windows uses dlls. xorg-devel distributes a libX11.dll.a file which should have been found by the configure script. The fact that it was not found suggests that you have not installed the xorg-devel package. Hence Brian's suggestion and his lament that if you'd provided the details requested at http://cygwin.com/problems we'd know just what you do or don't have installed. 1. If you are truly using XFree86 then you're off-topic for this mailing list. We don't support XFree86 anymore. 2. If you have somehow managed to install both XFree86 and Xorg on the same system, then you are, again, on your own as far as configuration problems go. 3. I doubt that anyone knows what "the compatibility file" is. 4. Assuming that a linux shared library will work on Windows demonstrates that you should not be casting aspersions on people who are trying to help you because you obviously need a lot of help. 5. Ditto. >Don't you or any of your ilk waste my time any more, I'm afraid that I probably qualify as being of Brian's "ilk" so you probably think your time is being wasted by this message but I suspect that the legion of flpsed-capable people waiting in the wings to help you must have better things to do with their time than give you the detailed instructions you are apparently expecting. So, that just leaves people like Brian who try to help by first getting you into a known state and then trying to help figure out what is going on from general principles. When I have a problem, I usually expect that no one is going to have my exact setup and hope that someone might try to help me figure things out. I find someones of that sort of "ilk" relatively rare and I'm usually rather grateful for their help. Apparently, YMMV. cgf From charles.w.martin@baesystems.com Wed Jul 20 21:20:00 2005 From: charles.w.martin@baesystems.com (Martin, Charles W (US SSA)) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:20:00 -0000 Subject: Errors when attempting 'xwin -query edeptpgrid20' Message-ID: <0C193661146AB240925A7835E7247B320167BA6F@blums0010> XWin.log file contains the following: Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.1.0-5 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: xwin -query edeptpgrid20 ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winCheckDisplayNumber - Cygwin/X is already running on display 0 Fatal server error: InitOutput - Duplicate invocation on display number: 0. 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Name: XWin.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 3167 bytes Desc: XWin.log URL: From kdibble@alltel.net Wed Jul 20 23:28:00 2005 From: kdibble@alltel.net (Ken Dibble) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:28:00 -0000 Subject: Errors when attempting 'xwin -query edeptpgrid20' In-Reply-To: <0C193661146AB240925A7835E7247B320167BA6F@blums0010> References: <0C193661146AB240925A7835E7247B320167BA6F@blums0010> Message-ID: <42DEDBF9.9080303@alltel.net> Martin, Charles W (US SSA) wrote: >XWin.log file contains the following: > >Welcome to the XWin X Server >Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project >Release: 6.8.1.0-5 > >Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > >XWin was started with the following command line: > >xwin -query edeptpgrid20 > >ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens >winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024 >winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning >_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root >winCheckDisplayNumber - Cygwin/X is already running on display 0 > >Fatal server error: >InitOutput - Duplicate invocation on display number: 0. Exiting. > >winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ >____________________________________________________________winDeinitMul >tiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress >winClipboardProc - winClipboardFlushWindowsMessageQueue trapped WM_QUIT >message, exiting main loop. >winClipboardProc - XDestroyWindow succeeded. > >winClipboardIOErrorHandler! > >winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress > > <> > > Fatal server error: InitOutput - Duplicate invocation on display number: 0. Exiting. see http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#duplicate-invocation From brian@dessent.net Wed Jul 20 23:41:00 2005 From: brian@dessent.net (Brian Dessent) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:41:00 -0000 Subject: compiling flpsed under Cygwin References: <42DDB680.30303@alltel.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050719225728.03ce4120@pop.prospeed.net> <42DE0837.A91E1C80@dessent.net> Message-ID: <42DEE1F5.1A6AB394@dessent.net> "Stephen P. Harris" wrote: > "I use xfree86 as my x server for my cygwin windows lyx, > perhaps there is a conflict? I have all the files for both > Xfree and X11 org installed and the compatibility file. > There is no LibXll.so native to my computer." There will never be a "libX11.so" on your computer because that's not the correct name. The configure script may print an error message saying that it can't find "libX11.so", but that is an error that the authors of that script made. On Cygwin/Windows, shared libraries do not end in .so. The file libX11.dll.a is the name of the X11 import library under Cygwin, and it is included in the -devel package, and if setup properly it will be found when a program tries to link with -lX11. > Since all includes (xorg-x11-devel) your advice must be > speculative since that is not the solution. I only want When people do not provide complete details (such as cygcheck output) or provide contradicting information (such as "I'm using both XFree86 and Xorg servers"), all replies are going to be speculative in nature. > you are not representative of the caliber of support > available on this mailing list. Brian wrote: I'm not. Most people would not bother replying. > Previously SH wrote: > Claus also includes a startxwin.bat; so maybe I could > change it easily or maybe not, it it ain't broke don't fix it. > > I don't see how you could be sure that the script will > work just as well with either X-org or Xfree?? Unless startxwin.bat is a script that is packaged WITH the X11 packages. It it not special to flpsed in any way. Thus if you install the xorg-x11-* packages you will have a working startxwin.bat. Even if you used an old startxwin.bat from the XFree86 packages with the X.org server, it would work. The X.org server is an evolution/fork of the XFree86 code. The XWin.exe command line arguments are the same. > I did not ask whether Xfree was deprecated in favor of Xorg. > What you wrote indicates that it is not the choice of active > server which dictates whether flpsed will compile or not, as > long as the requisite libraries are installed for Xorg-devel. I mentioned it because the XFree86 packages are old and out of date. If you are trying to use them, you are on your own. Cygwin does not support them and hasn't for a long time. It's naturally your choice, but don't expect any help from this list if you're not using the X.org server. > I did not ask for your opinion on matters that did not have > a direct bearing on the compilation of flsped. Nor do I You asked for help compiling flpsed. flpsed is an X11 application. Using old and unsupported X11 packages is relevent to compiling X11 applications. > Pontificate on your own dime. My point has nothing to do with > the correctness of your advice, but the irrelevancy of it to flpsed. > > Don't you or any of your ilk waste my time any more, *plonk* Brian From brian@dessent.net Thu Jul 21 02:22:00 2005 From: brian@dessent.net (Brian Dessent) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 02:22:00 -0000 Subject: compiling flpsed under Cygwin References: <42DDB680.30303@alltel.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050719225728.03ce4120@pop.prospeed.net> <42DE0837.A91E1C80@dessent.net> Message-ID: <42DF07AA.13BC13B4@dessent.net> "Stephen P. Harris" wrote: > Pontificate on your own dime. My point has nothing to do with > the correctness of your advice, but the irrelevancy of it to flpsed. FYI, I was able to build flpsed just fine. The actual hard part is building a X11 fltk. The Cygwin packaged version uses win32/GDI and the configure scripts will try to force this if configured under Cygwin so you have to do some surgery to get a true X11 library. The steps I used were roughly: # uninstall Cygwin fltk package $ tar jxvf fltk-1.1.6-source.tar.bz2 $ cd fltk-1.1.6 $ CFLAGS="-UWIN32" CXXFLAGS="-UWIN32" LDFLAGS="-L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11" \ ./configure --with-x --enable-cygwin --disable-gl $ make # edit fltk-config to get correct library order: --- fltk-config.orig 2005-07-20 19:06:38.171875000 -0700 +++ fltk-config 2005-07-20 19:16:11.359375000 -0700 @@ -52,8 +52,8 @@ # flags for C++ compiler: CFLAGS="-mwindows -DWIN32 -UWIN32" CXXFLAGS="-mwindows -DWIN32 -UWIN32" -LDFLAGS="-mwindows -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11" -LDLIBS=" -lole32 -luuid -lcomctl32 -lwsock32 -lsupc++" +LDFLAGS="-mwindows" +LDLIBS=" -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lole32 -luuid -lcomctl32 -lwsock32 -lsupc++" if test -d $includedir/FL/images; then CFLAGS="-I$includedir/FL/images $CFLAGS" $ make install $ cd .. $ tar zxvf flpsed-0.3.5.tar.gz $ cd flpsed-0.3.5 $ ./configure $ make The result is a working flpsed. Now take your rude, craptastic attitude towards volunteers that are trying to help you in their spare time and shove it. Brian From Stephen_P_Harris@hotmail.com Thu Jul 21 04:20:00 2005 From: Stephen_P_Harris@hotmail.com (Stephen P. Harris) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 04:20:00 -0000 Subject: compiling flpsed under Cygwin References: <42DDB680.30303@alltel.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050719225728.03ce4120@pop.prospeed.net> <42DE0837.A91E1C80@dessent.net> <20050720203712.GA12065@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Faylor" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 1:37 PM Subject: Re: compiling flpsed under Cygwin > On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 12:02:55PM -0700, Stephen P. Harris wrote: >>I did not ask for your opinion on matters that did not have a direct >>bearing on the compilation of flsped. Nor do I value anyone's >>speculative opinion who has not compiled flpsed, and you especially >>since you are inattentive to detail. I'm being polite; however I have >>no confidence that a word to the wise will be sufficient. You come >>across as a college kid. > > Actually, sorry but you are not being polite. > Polite is relative to what I thought about saying. > You are not providing enough details to debug your problem so any > attempts to help you are going to be purely speculative. > Oh, really? I don't agree. You have provided them. > The details you have provided are > > To take these in order: > > 0. Cygwin/Windows do not use .so files. Windows uses dlls. xorg-devel > distributes > a libX11.dll.a file which should have been found by the configure > script. > The fact that it was not found suggests that you have not installed the > xorg-devel > package. Hence Brian's suggestion and his lament that if you'd provided > the details requested at http://cygwin.com/problems we'd know just what > you do or don't have installed. > I know that some Linux apps will install on Windows/Cygwin and others will not. I made the purpose of my email clear early on: "Has anyone made progress with compiling flpsed?" > 1. If you are truly using XFree86 then you're off-topic for this mailing > list. We don't support XFree86 anymore. > That may be, but how am I to know that? The FAQ says: "Almost anything related to Cygwin is on-topic here. Please note, that this is not a mailing list for the discussion of general Windows topics. There are many many other places for that on the Internet. Also note, that if you are interested in the Cygwin XFree86 project which is porting the XFree86 code to Windows, then the correct mailing list for this discussion is cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. " SH: So change the FAQ and the name of the mailing list. Why is your sayso tobe considered authoritative and the FAQ dismissed? > 2. If you have somehow managed to install both XFree86 and Xorg > on the same system, then you are, again, on your own as far as > configuration problems go. Are you implying that flpsed is not compiling because there is a configuration problem generated by a conflict between X servers? But I stated that I had installed all X11 packages. That indicates the problem is caused by "0. Cygwin/Windows do not use .so files. Windows uses dlls. xorg-devel distributes a libX11.dll.a file which should have been found by the configure script." SH: You people have been beating on a dead strawhorse argument by harping on whether I use Xfree or Xorg. That choice has not prevented other Linux originated programs (Xemacs) from compiling on my computer so it points to the libX11.dll.a answer. > > 3. I doubt that anyone knows what "the compatibility file" is. > I didn't identify it as an 'X11 compatibility file' I suppose that requires a tremendous leap of insight when taken in the context of mentioning I have all the X11 packages. Not _obsolete "Category X11 XFree86-lib-compat: Cygwin/X 4.2.0 shared libraries." That doesn't mean that package is needed, but that it eliminates not having some particular resource when troubleshooting. The package is found under View when setup displays the available list of packages. > 4. Assuming that a linux shared library will work on Windows demonstrates > that > you should not be casting aspersions on people who are trying to help > you > because you obviously need a lot of help. > Go fyitaysp. Now do you the difference between restraining myself to politeness and saying what I think?? I see people like Brian all the time on WinXP.general. Somebody will post a problem and a half-baked expert will respond with a wrong solution because they don't know what the actual problem is. The type that always wants to ask a question when they don't know what the answer is. I did not assume flpsed would work. I considered it possible, ditto "Has anyone made progress with compiling flpsed?" Since flpsed is a gem of a program if someone managed to compile under Cygwin, or modified the code sufficiently, then my remark would have elicited a response. > 5. Ditto. > >>Don't you or any of your ilk waste my time any more, > > I'm afraid that I probably qualify as being of Brian's "ilk" so you > probably think your time is being wasted by this message but I suspect > that the legion of flpsed-capable people waiting in the wings to help > you must have better things to do with their time than give you the > detailed instructions you are apparently expecting. > You are correct to fear that. But unlike Brian you provided one good piece of information which was relevant to the error message about libX11.so that I provided, explaining it. The rest of your post is dismal: 1) You display either ignorance of the FAQ or presume that others should regard your interpretation of the FAQ as superior to that doc. It is one thing to state that Xfree has been deprecated and another to claim that Xfree is off-topic. Why don't you demand that whoever is in charge of putting the files (such as LyX) into the list of available downloads remove all reference to Xfree? It seems inconsistent to me that a mailing list should refuse to discuss a package which is provided in the download setup of Cygwin, whether or not it is _obsolete. 2) There you go creating a strawman argument. I made no report of evidence establishing a configuration conflict between Xfree and Xorg impacting the compilation of flpsed. The choice of X servers certainly appears to be superflous to compiling flpsed. 3) Sombody must be in charge of putting files on the download list. So I presume there is at least one person besides me who would recognize what the the term "compatility file" refers to when used in the context of X11 library package files. To me, your statement demonstrates your personal lack of knowledge. > So, that just leaves people like Brian who try to help by first getting > you into a known state and then trying to help figure out what is going > on from general principles. When I have a problem, I usually expect > that no one is going to have my exact setup and hope that someone might > try to help me figure things out. I find someones of that sort of "ilk" > relatively rare and I'm usually rather grateful for their help. > Brian's help should have consisted of remarking, as you did in 0) that the error message about libX11.so meant that flpsed was not going to compile. His entire post, though meant as well-intended help was a waste of time. Your points are 1,2,3... are mostly garbage; (let me politely rephrase that) _erroneous_ with the exception of 0). Your persistence seems worthy, but your discrimination falls short. "When I have a problem, I usually expect that no one is going to have my exact setup and hope that someone mighttry to help me figure things out." SH: Your statement does not preclude a package like preview-latex from compiling on 99% of Windows/Cygwin machines and zero reports of flspsed installing on even one Windows/Cygwin. Not even one which says, 'I got it to work but I'm not gonna tell you because you are a cranky curmudgeon!' The relevant general principle is .dll vs. .so not X Server, the battle of titans, Xfree or Xorg. So your argument is specious. This particular issue is not at the categorical level wherein your advice applies. The problem of the so error message jumped out at you. It didn't need a first-level tier help script approach used by technicians of limited experience. Also I didn't know .so files were forbidden to Cygwin since my Apache directory is full of them, installed by Cygwin. So from 0) your statement "Cygwin/Windows do not use .so files" seems less than precise, certainly makes it hard for me to generalize to "xorg-devel distributes a libX11.dll.a file which should have been found by the configure script." I suppose you mean in place of the -lx11 reference to libX11.so which seems accurate. From Google: "Hallo, Cygwin changed the naming scheme for X binaries and importlibraries, this means the X11 is not found by configure without this change: diff -Nurd ocaml-3.07beta2~/configure ocaml-3.07beta2/configure --- ocaml-3.07beta2~/configure 2003-08-20 17:10:58.000000000 +0200 +++ ocaml-3.07beta2/configure 2003-08-29 15:23:24.000000000 +0200 @@ -1194,6 +1194,7 @@ do if test -f $dir/libX11.a || \ test -f $dir/libX11.so || \ + test -f $dir/libX11.dll.a || \ test -f $dir/libX11.sa; then if test $dir = /usr/lib; then x11_link="-lX11" #END Besides this it builds clean. Are there testsuites available to test the different generated executables for regression? Gerrit " > Apparently, YMMV. > > cgf 1. "If you are truly using XFree86 then you're off-topic for this mailing list. "We don't support XFree86 anymore." Unless you are in charge of this list with the power of refuting the FAQ the use of "we" seems yet another case of the "we" consisting of an X-man with a mouse in his pocket. People with little qualification habitually use the term "we" to hide their inexperience. It advertises their feeling of being on insecure ground. I will be moving on, Stephen From Dr.Volker.Zell@oracle.com Thu Jul 21 06:15:00 2005 From: Dr.Volker.Zell@oracle.com (Dr. Volker Zell) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 06:15:00 -0000 Subject: AltGr doesn't produce @|{[]}\~ In-Reply-To: (Alexander Gottwald's message of "Wed, 20 Jul 2005 22:15:38 +0200 (MEST)") References: <87fyu9d7tg.fsf@vzell-de.de.oracle.com> <87ackh9uqd.fsf@vzell-de.de.oracle.com> Message-ID: <87pstcsmur.fsf@vzell-de.de.oracle.com> >>>>> Alexander Gottwald writes: > Somehow the distinction does not work properly for you because > 1) the control and alt messages have different timestamps > 2) the extended key flag for the control key is set > 3) a message in the range from [WM_KEYDOWN..WM_SYSKEYDOWN] is reported between > the control and alt message. Those messages are WM_KEYUP, WM_CHAR, WM_DEADCHAR > If reverting to xorg-x11-xwin-6.8.2.0-3 does fix the problem then it's most likely > the third case. I hope I can provide a fix in the next days. I just reverted to xorg-x11-xwin-6.8.2.0-3 but the problem still persists. I know it was working before with that version. I just noticed that a backup program which came with my new Maxtor external HD (Dantz-Retrospect Express HD) installed the Microsoft.NET Framework on my laptop. Also the latest security fix from MS was pushed on my computer between the working AltGr and now. > bye > ago Ciao Volker From Stephen_P_Harris@hotmail.com Thu Jul 21 06:48:00 2005 From: Stephen_P_Harris@hotmail.com (Stephen P. Harris) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 06:48:00 -0000 Subject: compiling flpsed under Cygwin References: <42DDB680.30303@alltel.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050719225728.03ce4120@pop.prospeed.net> <42DE0837.A91E1C80@dessent.net> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Dessent" To: "Cygwin List" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 1:15 AM Subject: Re: compiling flpsed under Cygwin I owe you an apology. I thought at first that you just were spread too think to give much attention to any one email. I was wrong, very wrong. I haven't followed your directions yet, but I will. I think the flpsed package is a significant contribution. There is no fool like an old fool, Stephen From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Jul 21 08:03:00 2005 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:03:00 -0000 Subject: compiling flpsed under Cygwin In-Reply-To: References: <42DDB680.30303@alltel.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050719225728.03ce4120@pop.prospeed.net> <42DE0837.A91E1C80@dessent.net> <20050720203712.GA12065@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Message-ID: Stephen P. Harris wrote: > Also I didn't know .so files were forbidden to Cygwin They are not forbidden. But standard shared library naming on windows is .dll and this is used by most cygwin packages. > since my > Apache directory is full of them, installed by Cygwin. So from 0) > your statement "Cygwin/Windows do not use .so files" seems > less than precise, certainly makes it hard for me to generalize to > "xorg-devel distributes a libX11.dll.a file which should have been > found by the configure script." I suppose you mean in place of the > -lx11 reference to libX11.so which seems accurate. From Google: > > "Hallo, > Cygwin changed the naming scheme for X binaries and importlibraries, > this means the X11 is not found by configure without this change: > > diff -Nurd ocaml-3.07beta2~/configure ocaml-3.07beta2/configure > --- ocaml-3.07beta2~/configure 2003-08-20 17:10:58.000000000 +0200 > +++ ocaml-3.07beta2/configure 2003-08-29 15:23:24.000000000 +0200 > @@ -1194,6 +1194,7 @@ > do > if test -f $dir/libX11.a || \ > test -f $dir/libX11.so || \ > + test -f $dir/libX11.dll.a || \ > test -f $dir/libX11.sa; then > if test $dir = /usr/lib; then > x11_link="-lX11" > #END This is just true for a single application which has a broken configure. Usually configure does not check for specific files but tries to actually link the libraries. This does work even with the import libraries. > 1. "If you are truly using XFree86 then you're off-topic for this mailing > list. "We don't support XFree86 anymore." Unless you are in charge of this > list with the power of refuting the FAQ the use of "we" seems yet another > case of the "we" consisting of an X-man with a mouse in his pocket. People > with little qualification habitually use the term "we" to hide their > inexperience. It advertises their feeling of being on insecure ground. Cygwin is a project were many people gather to work together. Those people usually have a very good insight of what is going on. If you want someone speak up who is the head of cygwin then you should ask Chris Faylor. Or you want a word from the Cygwin/X maintainer (thats me)? | We do not support XFree86 for some time now. We changed to Xorg. The | compatibility package is just for applications which use older shared | libraries which are binary incompatible with the current. (But I guess | this is something you figured out yourself with your experience) get lost ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Mathieu.Oudart@cnes.fr Thu Jul 21 13:23:00 2005 From: Mathieu.Oudart@cnes.fr (Mathieu OUDART) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:23:00 -0000 Subject: OpenGL compatibility with Cygwin/X Message-ID: <200507211322.j6LDMxF04112@cnes.fr> Hi all, I use cygwin on my desktop PC (WinXP with graphic controller Intel 82815 and the latest drivers). I actually have problems running OpenGL programs like Tecplot or GLUT demos. Here is a summary of the tests I've made : Using Xwin : - glxinfo : OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect - glxgears => OK (slow) - Tecplot animation => NO (framer error) - GLUT demo => NO GLUT: Fatal Error in (unamed): visual with necessary capabilities not found. Using Xwin_GL - glxinfo : OpenGL vendor string: Intel OpenGL renderer string: Intel Solano - glxgears => OK (very fluent) - GLUT demo => NO GLUT: Fatal Error in (unamed): visual with necessary capabilities not found. - Tecplot animation => NO (X Protocol error: GLXBadContext) Using Exceed 3D : - Tecplot animation => OK - GLUT demo => OK Does it miss something with my Cygwin/X to get necessary extensions ? Regards. -- Mathieu OUDART From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Thu Jul 21 14:21:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:21:00 -0000 Subject: compiling flpsed under Cygwin In-Reply-To: References: <42DDB680.30303@alltel.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050719225728.03ce4120@pop.prospeed.net> <42DE0837.A91E1C80@dessent.net> <20050720203712.GA12065@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Message-ID: On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Stephen P. Harris wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher Faylor" > To: . > [snip] > SH: So change the FAQ and the name of the mailing list. Why is > your sayso tobe considered authoritative and the FAQ dismissed? > > [snip] > 1) You display either ignorance of the FAQ or presume that others > should regard your interpretation of the FAQ as superior to that doc. See . > [snip] > 3) Sombody must be in charge of putting files on the download > list. So I presume there is at least one person besides me who > would recognize what the the term "compatility file" refers to > when used in the context of X11 library package files. To me, > your statement demonstrates your personal lack of knowledge. > > [snip] > Your persistence seems worthy, but your discrimination falls short. > [snip] > The problem of the so error message jumped out at you. It didn't need a > first-level tier help script approach used by technicians of limited > experience. > > Also I didn't know .so files were forbidden to Cygwin since my > Apache directory is full of them, installed by Cygwin. So from 0) > your statement "Cygwin/Windows do not use .so files" seems Cygwin/Windows does not use *Linux* .so files. Copying a *Linux* .so file to Cygwin and expecting it to work shows total ignorance of what Cygwin is and how it works (see the "What isn't Cygwin" section at the top of the Cygwin web page). As for the rest of your points, see below. > [snip] > > 1. "If you are truly using XFree86 then you're off-topic for this mailing > list. "We don't support XFree86 anymore." Unless you are in charge of this > list with the power of refuting the FAQ the use of "we" seems yet another case > of the "we" consisting of an X-man with a mouse in his pocket. People with > little qualification habitually use the term "we" to hide their inexperience. > It advertises their feeling of being on insecure ground. As a matter of fact, he *is* in charge. See . FYI, Brian Dessent, whose very valid help you so frivolously dismissed as "first-level tier help script approach", is the maintainer of Cygwin's apache packages, as well as the Cygwin install program, so he's well aware of the issues of compiling programs in Cygwin. > I will be moving on, Stephen Yes, I think you'd better. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Jul 21 15:54:00 2005 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:54:00 -0000 Subject: OpenGL compatibility with Cygwin/X In-Reply-To: <200507211322.j6LDMxF04112@cnes.fr> References: <200507211322.j6LDMxF04112@cnes.fr> Message-ID: Mathieu OUDART wrote: > Using Xwin_GL > - glxinfo : > OpenGL vendor string: Intel > OpenGL renderer string: Intel Solano > - glxgears => OK (very fluent) > - GLUT demo => NO > GLUT: Fatal Error in (unamed): visual with necessary capabilities > not found. > - Tecplot animation => NO (X Protocol error: GLXBadContext) > > Using Exceed 3D : > - Tecplot animation => OK > - GLUT demo => OK > > Does it miss something with my Cygwin/X to get necessary extensions ? The accelerated OpenGL support does still require some work. Maybe running a different colordepth can help. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Stephen_P_Harris@hotmail.com Thu Jul 21 20:53:00 2005 From: Stephen_P_Harris@hotmail.com (Stephen P. Harris) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 20:53:00 -0000 Subject: compiling flpsed under Cygwin References: <42DDB680.30303@alltel.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050719225728.03ce4120@pop.prospeed.net> <42DE0837.A91E1C80@dessent.net> <20050720203712.GA12065@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexander Gottwald" To: Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 1:02 AM Subject: Re: compiling flpsed under Cygwin > Stephen P. Harris wrote: > >> Also I didn't know .so files were forbidden to Cygwin > > They are not forbidden. But standard shared library naming on windows > is .dll and this is used by most cygwin packages. > Chris Faylor wrote: "0. Cygwin/Windows do not use .so files." SH: Perhaps you think saying .so files are not standard or used by most is equivalent to "0. Cygwin/Windows do not use .so files." Since Cygwin Apache comes with .so files your remark does not clarify Chris Faylor's comment, but contradicts it. It is the difference between "all" and "most". >> 1. "If you are truly using XFree86 then you're off-topic for this mailing >> list. "We don't support XFree86 anymore." Unless you are in charge of >> this >> list with the power of refuting the FAQ the use of "we" seems yet another >> case of the "we" consisting of an X-man with a mouse in his pocket. >> People >> with little qualification habitually use the term "we" to hide their >> inexperience. It advertises their feeling of being on insecure ground. > > Cygwin is a project were many people gather to work together. Those people > usually have a very good insight of what is going on. If you want someone > speak up who is the head of cygwin then you should ask Chris Faylor. Or > you want a word from the Cygwin/X maintainer (thats me)? > I suppose then that you are the best person to mention this to. It was Chris Faylor who wrote: > 1. If you are truly using XFree86 then you're off-topic for this mailing > list. We don't support XFree86 anymore. > That may be, but how am I to know that? The FAQ says: "Almost anything related to Cygwin is on-topic here. Please note, that this is not a mailing list for the discussion of general Windows topics. There are many many other places for that on the Internet. Also note, that if you are interested in the Cygwin XFree86 project which is porting the XFree86 code to Windows, then the correct mailing list for this discussion is cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. " SH: I assume then that the FAQ does not need to be amended and that Chris Faylor can contradict the FAQ whenever he chooses. > | We do not support XFree86 for some time now. We changed to Xorg. The > | compatibility package is just for applications which use older shared > | libraries which are binary incompatible with the current. (But I guess > | this is something you figured out yourself with your experience) > I don't think it takes experience to realize the above statement does not justify Chris Faylor's statement: > 3. I doubt that anyone knows what "the compatibility file" is. > SH: I didn't identify it as an 'X11 compatibility file' I suppose that requires a tremendous leap of insight when taken in the context of mentioning that I have all the X11 packages. Not _obsolete "Category X11 XFree86-lib-compat: Cygwin/X 4.2.0 shared libraries." SH: I don't think it takes an unusual degree of intelligence to realize that lib-compat stands for library compatibility. I do think it takes an unusual degree of intelligence to think that understanding is difficult for someone else, or requires Cygwin experience. > get lost > ago Do you mean me or the author of the paragraph you quote below? > | We do not support XFree86 for some time now. We changed to Xorg. The > | compatibility package is just for applications which use older shared > | libraries which are binary incompatible with the current. (But I guess > | this is something you figured out yourself with your experience) > Chris Furman: 3. I doubt that anyone knows what "the compatibility file" is. There is only one of this type: "Category X11 XFree86-lib-compat: Cygwin/X 4.2.0 shared libraries." Chris Furman's post was 90% wrong. It would be very charitable to merely call it sloppy. He appears to be unacquainted with the FAQ and the list of download files available in setup.exe. I suppose that is a qualification for Chris Furman ..."who is the head of cygwin". Maybe he is like a lot of Department Heads, in charge of funding. I suppose a benefit is the ability to remove his posts of dubious quality. CF wrote: "4. Assuming that a linux shared library will work on Windows demonstrates that you should not be casting aspersions on people who are trying to help you because you obviously need a lot of help." SH: Well, fltk is platform independent so that is a major hurdle passed. >From my level, the ./configure switches passed on were complicated and required a lot of experience with Cygwin, so I did need a lot of help. But since the correct syntax and ordering of libraries was sufficient, it means the assumption flpsed would work under Cygwin was fairly reasonable and CF questioned that assumption with "demonstrates". The actual help I received came from Brian Dessent who I wrongfully maligned (maybe Furman is guilty of no more than dismal sarcasm). Brian's effort was very clever and I also appreciate the package installment method used for setup.exe (no matter who gets credit). I added an "fi", Stephen > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > From Stephen_P_Harris@hotmail.com Thu Jul 21 22:02:00 2005 From: Stephen_P_Harris@hotmail.com (Stephen P. Harris) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:02:00 -0000 Subject: compiling flpsed under Cygwin References: <42DDB680.30303@alltel.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050719225728.03ce4120@pop.prospeed.net> <42DE0837.A91E1C80@dessent.net> <20050720203712.GA12065@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Igor Pechtchanski" To: Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 7:21 AM Subject: Re: compiling flpsed under Cygwin > On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Stephen P. Harris wrote: > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Christopher Faylor" >> To: > > . > >> [snip] >> SH: So change the FAQ and the name of the mailing list. Why is >> your sayso tobe considered authoritative and the FAQ dismissed? >> >> [snip] >> 1) You display either ignorance of the FAQ or presume that others >> should regard your interpretation of the FAQ as superior to that doc. > > See . > I suppose this is an appeal to authority type of argument. I criticized the fact that the Cygwin FAQ and CGF's statements contradict each other. Do you think mentioning his title erases the contradiction? It was Chris Faylor who wrote: "1. If you are truly using XFree86 then you're off-topic for this mailing list. We don't support XFree86 anymore. SH: That may be, but how am I to know that? The FAQ says: "Almost anything related to Cygwin is on-topic here. Please note, that this is not a mailing list for the discussion of general Windows topics. There are many many other places for that on the Internet. Also note, that if you are interested in the Cygwin XFree86 project which is porting the XFree86 code to Windows, then the correct mailing list for this discussion is cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. " SH: I assume then that the FAQ does not need to be amended and that Chris Faylor can contradict the FAQ whenever he chooses. SH: Igor, bring up titles does not refute evidence of a written contradiction in policy. Your point about qualifications does nothing to rebut my point that the policies are contradictory. Do you think you make the point that such contradictions are ok, depending on who makes them? You are replying to an imaginary issue, his qualifications, rather than my point which is that the statements are contradictory. And so on. I do think CFG should not make statements contradictory to the FAQ, or assume the responsibility of editing the FAQ so that it does not mislead users; not when you push reading the documentation. > If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity > of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA > From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Thu Jul 21 23:41:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 23:41:00 -0000 Subject: compiling flpsed under Cygwin In-Reply-To: References: <42DDB680.30303@alltel.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050719225728.03ce4120@pop.prospeed.net> <42DE0837.A91E1C80@dessent.net> <20050720203712.GA12065@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Message-ID: On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Stephen P. Harris wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Igor Pechtchanski" > To: . > > On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Stephen P. Harris wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Christopher Faylor" > > > To: > > > > . > > > > > [snip] > > > SH: So change the FAQ and the name of the mailing list. Why is > > > your sayso tobe considered authoritative and the FAQ dismissed? > > > > > > [snip] > > > 1) You display either ignorance of the FAQ or presume that others > > > should regard your interpretation of the FAQ as superior to that doc. > > > > See . > > I suppose this is an appeal to authority type of argument. I criticized > the fact that the Cygwin FAQ and CGF's statements contradict each other. > Do you think mentioning his title erases the contradiction? It's not his title that is in question here. The Cygwin project is run by volunteers. Chris and Corinna and others make their contributions to Cygwin on their own time. There is no official support for Cygwin (unless you buy a Red Hat license). So it's quite understandable that documentation is sometimes incomplete, and that other users contribute support when and to the extent that they are able. > It was Chris Faylor who wrote: > "1. If you are truly using XFree86 then you're off-topic for this mailing > list. We don't support XFree86 anymore. > > SH: That may be, but how am I to know that? The FAQ says: > > "Almost anything related to Cygwin is on-topic here. Please note, > that this is not a mailing list for the discussion of general Windows > topics. There are many many other places for that on the Internet. > > Also note, that if you are interested in the Cygwin XFree86 project > which is porting the XFree86 code to Windows, then the correct > mailing list for this discussion is cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. " > > SH: I assume then that the FAQ does not need to be amended and > that Chris Faylor can contradict the FAQ whenever he chooses. No, the point is that the FAQ *does* need to be amended, but . Unless someone volunteers their time to make changes to the FAQ, this isn't going to happen. > SH: Igor, bring up titles does not refute evidence of a written > contradiction in policy. Your point about qualifications does nothing to > rebut my point that the policies are contradictory. Do you think you > make the point that such contradictions are ok, depending on who makes > them? Yes, precisely. The point I make is that Chris, by the virtue of being the project leader, is the ultimate authority on all things Cygwin. If he contradicts the FAQ, then the FAQ is wrong. By contradicting it publicly, the issue is now on the mailing lists, and there is a chance that someone will volunteer their time to produce the corrections to the FAQ (which, BTW, Chris does not maintain). > You are replying to an imaginary issue, his qualifications, rather than > my point which is that the statements are contradictory. I do not dispute that his statements are contradictory. What I was trying to tell you by showing you his qualifications is that if he contradicts the FAQ, he's most probably right. > And so on. I do think CFG should not make statements contradictory to > the FAQ, or assume the responsibility of editing the FAQ so that it does > not mislead users; not when you push reading the documentation. Again, Cygwin is a volunteer-run project. Until the Cygwin FAQ maintainer has the time to take CGF's statements and incorporate them into the FAQ, the FAQ will be out of date. FAQ updates do happen occasionally, and this information will likely find its way into the FAQ at some point. Nobody knows when. Cygwin users should try reading the mailing list archives to see if any documentation is out of date. If they don't read the archives, they should not be surprised when FAQ errors are pointed out to them on the mailing lists. If they are surprised or offended by the documentation being out of date, they can return the product for a full refund. Instead of complaining that the FAQ is out of date, you can help the cause by coming up with the proper wording and creating a patch against the FAQ sources (which are publicly available in CVS). You don't even need a copyright assignment for this, IIRC. It would make the FAQ maintainer's job much easier, and is likely to bring those particular FAQ entries up-to-date sooner. If you are unwilling to do that, you cannot demand that someone else spend their time doing it. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA From Stephen_P_Harris@hotmail.com Fri Jul 22 01:12:00 2005 From: Stephen_P_Harris@hotmail.com (Stephen P. Harris) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 01:12:00 -0000 Subject: compiling flpsed under Cygwin References: <42DDB680.30303@alltel.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050719225728.03ce4120@pop.prospeed.net> <42DE0837.A91E1C80@dessent.net> <20050720203712.GA12065@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Igor Pechtchanski" To: Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 4:41 PM Subject: Re: compiling flpsed under Cygwin > On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Stephen P. Harris wrote: > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Igor Pechtchanski" >> To: > > . > >> > On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Stephen P. Harris wrote: >> > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Christopher Faylor" >> > > To: >> > >> > . >> > >> > > [snip] >> > > SH: So change the FAQ and the name of the mailing list. Why is >> > > your sayso tobe considered authoritative and the FAQ dismissed? >> > > >> > > [snip] >> > > 1) You display either ignorance of the FAQ or presume that others >> > > should regard your interpretation of the FAQ as superior to that doc. >> > >> > See . >> >> SH: That may be, but how am I to know that? The FAQ says: >> I am going to edit the order of this post a bit to get to your reply to this question. > Igor wrote: Cygwin users should try reading the mailing list archives to > see > if any documentation is out of date. If they don't read the archives, > they > should not be surprised when FAQ errors are pointed out to them on the > mailing lists. If they are surprised or offended by the documentation > being out of date, they can return the product for a full refund. > This sounds like a reasonable approach. The new user, accustomed to finding needed information in FAQs, intuitively recognizes the superior approach used by Cygwin; read the FAQ, investigate the hierarchy of Cygwin honchos, make a list of important issues, and cross-index these issues against the several thousands of post created by these leaders who exercise a type of papal authority paying particular attention to the dates of the posts in case somebody with higher authority decides to establish a new guideline. Yes, quite a reasonable expectation. > > No, the point is that the FAQ *does* need to be amended, but > . Unless someone volunteers their time > to make changes to the FAQ, this isn't going to happen. > >> SH: Igor, bring up titles does not refute evidence of a written >> contradiction in policy. Your point about qualifications does nothing to >> rebut my point that the policies are contradictory. Do you think you >> make the point that such contradictions are ok, depending on who makes >> them? > > Yes, precisely. The point I make is that Chris, by the virtue of being > the project leader, is the ultimate authority on all things Cygwin. If he > contradicts the FAQ, then the FAQ is wrong. By contradicting it publicly, > the issue is now on the mailing lists, and there is a chance that someone > will volunteer their time to produce the corrections to the FAQ (which, > BTW, Chris does not maintain). > If Chris is project leader, then ultimately he is responsible for the consistency of the project. Do you mean there is no specified FAQ maintainer? Nobody for CFG to direct to this task? This reflects on the priority assigned to documentation. You appear to describing a Linux-like apathy for documentation. Did you know that poor documentation is regarded by most of world as a major reason Linux has floundered. Eric Raymond's article does not rescue this. This attitude is going to isolate Cygwin into a virtual game for intellectuals. >> You are replying to an imaginary issue, his qualifications, rather than >> my point which is that the statements are contradictory. > > I do not dispute that his statements are contradictory. What I was trying > to tell you by showing you his qualifications is that if he contradicts > the FAQ, he's most probably right. > That is likely so. But I think it is negligent to expect to expect new users to research the qualifcations of posters, especially to discover if they have a privileged status. I suppose we will not agree on this. The long term members of the list will agree with you, but most others will adhere to an ethical principle of principles before personalities. >> And so on. I do think CFG should not make statements contradictory to >> the FAQ, or assume the responsibility of editing the FAQ so that it does >> not mislead users; not when you push reading the documentation. > > Again, Cygwin is a volunteer-run project. Until the Cygwin FAQ maintainer > has the time to take CGF's statements and incorporate them into the FAQ, > the FAQ will be out of date. FAQ updates do happen occasionally, and this > information will likely find its way into the FAQ at some point. Nobody > knows when. > Oh, there is a Cygwin FAQ maintainer? Why isn't he/she doing their job? Why doesn't CFG notice this? Your solution is that the newcomer who was belittled for not being aware of CFG's policy decisions should volunteer to search the archives and take notes from CFG's posts and then change the FAQ to be in accordance with them. > Instead of complaining that the FAQ is out of date, you can help the cause > by coming up with the proper wording and creating a patch against the FAQ > sources (which are publicly available in CVS). You don't even need a > copyright assignment for this, IIRC. It would make the FAQ maintainer's > job much easier, and is likely to bring those particular FAQ entries > up-to-date sooner. If you are unwilling to do that, you cannot demand > that someone else spend their time doing it. > Igor Again you escalate what I said in order to reply to an imaginary issue. It is called making a strawman argument which is similar to equivocation. I did not demand that somebody else spend their time to do it. If there is a project leader, documentation comes under his/her purview, or failing that, to the individual who has volunteered to maintain the FAQ. You think a better idea is that somebody new to Cygwin takes over updating the FAQ after that newbie is chastised for reading the FAQ instead of a mass of personal pronouncements found in the archives. Did you want to make the FAQ into a Wiki? You have attempted to make a clever argument but I find it a bit sadly humorous. You are going to get your way, though. I will immediately unsubscribe from this list. It is really obvious that I don't fit it. I subscribed to his list because it was advertised as dealing with X11 issues including Xfree and the FAQ says these issues don't belown on the main Cygwin mailing list. Yet the authorities regularly cross-post between mailing lists. The rationale goes right over my head unless it is the do as I say not as I do syndrome a species of romance addiction. A la proclaime, Stephen > -- > http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ > |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu > ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! > > If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity > of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA > From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Fri Jul 22 01:30:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 01:30:00 -0000 Subject: compiling flpsed under Cygwin In-Reply-To: References: <42DDB680.30303@alltel.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050719225728.03ce4120@pop.prospeed.net> <42DE0837.A91E1C80@dessent.net> <20050720203712.GA12065@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Message-ID: <20050722012925.GA32707@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Still here swinging away, huh? Haven't you already made these points? I was going to let this slide because you had the courtesy to apologize, even if you tried to retroactively justify your rude behavior. However, if you want to keep this going, I guess I can comply. I love pointing out fractured thinking to people. On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 01:52:47PM -0700, Stephen P. Harris wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Alexander Gottwald" >To: >Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 1:02 AM >Subject: Re: compiling flpsed under Cygwin > > >>Stephen P. Harris wrote: >> >>>Also I didn't know .so files were forbidden to Cygwin >> >>They are not forbidden. But standard shared library naming on windows >>is .dll and this is used by most cygwin packages. >> >Chris Faylor wrote: "0. Cygwin/Windows do not use .so files." > >SH: Perhaps you think saying .so files are not standard or used by >most is equivalent to "0. Cygwin/Windows do not use .so files." >Since Cygwin Apache comes with .so files your remark does not >clarify Chris Faylor's comment, but contradicts it. It is the difference >between "all" and "most". I'm sorry for my imprecise language. Let me clarify. As you have so cleverly discovered (after many frantic hours of digging, I'm sure) it is possible to use other extensions for shared libraries on Windows. Yes, cygwin does have a couple of packages which do not use the ".dll" extension for their shared libraries. Regardless of the *extension* however, the files are still Windows DLLs, not ELF shared libraries as are found on Linux. You are obviously unclear on this and are now, apparently, thrashing about rather comically trying to wildly move off the topic of your own ignorance. >>>1. "If you are truly using XFree86 then you're off-topic for this mailing >>>list. "We don't support XFree86 anymore." Unless you are in charge of >>>this >>>list with the power of refuting the FAQ the use of "we" seems yet another >>>case of the "we" consisting of an X-man with a mouse in his pocket. >>>People >>>with little qualification habitually use the term "we" to hide their >>>inexperience. It advertises their feeling of being on insecure ground. >> >>Cygwin is a project were many people gather to work together. Those people >>usually have a very good insight of what is going on. If you want someone >>speak up who is the head of cygwin then you should ask Chris Faylor. Or >>you want a word from the Cygwin/X maintainer (thats me)? > >I suppose then that you are the best person to mention this to. >It was Chris Faylor who wrote: > >>1. If you are truly using XFree86 then you're off-topic for this mailing >> list. We don't support XFree86 anymore. > >That may be, but how am I to know that? I said that it was so just above after the 1. Here, let me say it for you again: 1. If you are truly using XFree86 then you're off-topic for this mailing list. We don't support XFree86 anymore. Did you see it this time? I hope so, because I hate to keep repeating myself. >The FAQ says: > >"Almost anything related to Cygwin is on-topic here. Please note, >that this is not a mailing list for the discussion of general Windows >topics. There are many many other places for that on the Internet. > >Also note, that if you are interested in the Cygwin XFree86 project >which is porting the XFree86 code to Windows, then the correct >mailing list for this discussion is cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. " > >SH: I assume then that the FAQ does not need to be amended and >that Chris Faylor can contradict the FAQ whenever he chooses. Wow, yeah, if the Cygwin FAQ actually said anything like that it would be the cause of some confusion. That is the information you get if you send a command to ezmlm asking for the FAQ for the cygwin-at-cygwin mailing list. The real Cygwin FAQ at http://cygwin.com/faq.html doesn't mention XFree86. http://cygwin.com/lists.html gets it right. The FAQ at x.cygwin.com only mentions XFree86 appropriately. Nevertheless, I have now eliminated the source of your confusion. As embarrassing as it is to admit, I had to ask Igor where in the world this text came from. It is particularly embarrassing because I wrote the words years ago when we were still using XFree86. >>| We do not support XFree86 for some time now. We changed to Xorg. The >>| compatibility package is just for applications which use older shared >>| libraries which are binary incompatible with the current. (But I guess >>| this is something you figured out yourself with your experience) >> > >I don't think it takes experience to realize the above statement does not >justify Chris Faylor's statement: > >>3. I doubt that anyone knows what "the compatibility file" is. >> > >SH: I didn't identify it as an 'X11 compatibility file' No, you didn't. You're correct. You identified it as "the compatibility file". That's why I said "the compatibility file". >I suppose that requires a tremendous leap of insight when taken in the >context of mentioning that I have all the X11 packages. You keep claiming that, but as it turns out, you probably didn't have all of the packages, which is why Brian callously insulted you by asking you for your configuration information. >Not _obsolete "Category X11 XFree86-lib-compat: Cygwin/X 4.2.0 shared >libraries." So, "the compatibility file" equates to "Not _obsolete "Category X11 XFree86-lib-compat: Cygwin/X 4.2.0 shared libraries." I'm not sure where the "Not _obsolete" comes from but let me clarify this for you: these libraries are deprecated and unsupported. How would you know that??????? Well, you could search the mailing list archives or you could just take my word for it. Regardless, when one uses imprecise language like "the compatibility file" to mean "the XFree86 compatibility libraries" it makes people think (correctly in your case) that you have no idea what you're talking about. That's why they ask you for clarification. We now understand that asking you for clarification is akin to questioning your manhood and is bound to evoke outraged and rude behavior on your part. So, I doubt that anyone will make the mistake of asking you to clarify your imprecise terminology again. >SH: I don't think it takes an unusual degree of intelligence to realize >that lib-compat stands for library compatibility. I do think it takes >an unusual degree of intelligence to think that understanding is >difficult for someone else, or requires Cygwin experience. Does it take an unusual degree of intelligence to realize that didn't use the term "lib-compat"? If you had said something like "lib-compat" then, possibly, we could have inferred what you were talking about. However since you were claiming to have both XFree86 and X.org installed on your system, it was entirely possible that both "lib-compat" and "the compatibility file" meant something else entirely. The only way to know for sure would be to ask you for... Uh. Nevermind. >Do you mean me or the author of the paragraph you quote below? > >>| We do not support XFree86 for some time now. We changed to Xorg. The >>| compatibility package is just for applications which use older shared >>| libraries which are binary incompatible with the current. (But I guess >>| this is something you figured out yourself with your experience) >> >Chris Furman: 3. I doubt that anyone knows what "the compatibility file" is. >There is only one of this type: >"Category X11 XFree86-lib-compat: Cygwin/X 4.2.0 shared libraries." So are you now somehow making fun of my name or is this YA case of your problem with using properly descriptive terms like *names*? >Chris Furman's post was 90% wrong. It would be very charitable to >merely call it sloppy. He appears to be unacquainted with the FAQ and >the list of download files available in setup.exe. I suppose that is a >qualification for Chris Furman ..."who is the head of cygwin". Maybe >he is like a lot of Department Heads, in charge of funding. I suppose >a benefit is the ability to remove his posts of dubious quality. The only posts of dubious quality that I remove are viruses, occasionally spam. So, never fear, your messages are safe. >CF wrote: "4. Assuming that a linux shared library will work on Windows >demonstrates that you should not be casting aspersions on people who are >trying to help you because you obviously need a lot of help." > >SH: Well, fltk is platform independent so that is a major hurdle passed. Many software packages are platform independent. That doesn't mean that you can take a binary executable from the package on one platform and make it run on another. And, since you are a fan of documentation, you might be interested in these words right at the top of the cygwin web site: # Cygwin is not a way to run native linux apps on Windows. You have to rebuild your application from source if you want to get it running on Windows. >From my level, the ./configure switches passed on were complicated >and required a lot of experience with Cygwin, so I did need a lot of help. Right. You needed a lot of help. That's what I was saying. >But since the correct syntax and ordering of libraries was sufficient, >it means the assumption flpsed would work under Cygwin was fairly >reasonable and CF questioned that assumption with "demonstrates". Since Cygwin has hundreds of packages running on it, OF COURSE it is reasonable to assume that one would be able to *port* another package to it. However, of the hundreds of packages running on Cygwin, how many of them do you think are just straight copies of linux executables from a Debian system to Windows. Zero. Once again, let me point out that moving a linux/ELF shared library to Windows shows that you don't know what you're doing. There's nothing wrong with not knowing what you're doing. Everyone starts out not knowing. I've tried hard not to call you stupid. You're obviously ignorant but, then, you have admitted that. Being as ignorant as you are, you'd really be rather well served to stop digging yourself deeper and deeper into this ludicrous hole and just think about being slightly more humble when someone like Brian tries to help you. That's all that I was saying. >The actual help I received came from Brian Dessent who I wrongfully >maligned (maybe Furman is guilty of no more than dismal sarcasm). The actual help you received came from someone who was trying to help you technically. I was trying to improve your behavior and defend someone you maligned and whom I respect. If you thought that anything in my message was actually intended to help you port flpsed then you completely misread my intent. >Brian's effort was very clever and I also appreciate the package >installment method used for setup.exe (no matter who gets credit). Um, yeah. Kissing up now are we? I guess that's better than being rude. cgf From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Fri Jul 22 01:45:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 01:45:00 -0000 Subject: compiling flpsed under Cygwin In-Reply-To: <20050722012925.GA32707@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> References: <42DDB680.30303@alltel.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050719225728.03ce4120@pop.prospeed.net> <42DE0837.A91E1C80@dessent.net> <20050720203712.GA12065@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> <20050722012925.GA32707@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Message-ID: <20050722014414.GA1787@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 09:29:25PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >>The FAQ says: >> >>"Almost anything related to Cygwin is on-topic here. Please note, >>that this is not a mailing list for the discussion of general Windows >>topics. There are many many other places for that on the Internet. >> >>Also note, that if you are interested in the Cygwin XFree86 project >>which is porting the XFree86 code to Windows, then the correct >>mailing list for this discussion is cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. " >> >>SH: I assume then that the FAQ does not need to be amended and >>that Chris Faylor can contradict the FAQ whenever he chooses. > >Wow, yeah, if the Cygwin FAQ actually said anything like that it would >be the cause of some confusion. > >That is the information you get if you send a command to ezmlm asking >for the FAQ for the cygwin-at-cygwin mailing list. Just to clarify, this isn't the information that you get when you ask the mailing list manager for the FAQ. This was what you got when you send email to "cygwin-info@cygwin.com". So, the word "FAQ" doesn't really apply here. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From stephen.p.harris@sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 22 10:40:00 2005 From: stephen.p.harris@sbcglobal.net (Stephen Harris) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:40:00 -0000 Subject: compiling flpsed under Cyg Message-ID: <001101c58ea9$a41f5060$0301a8c0@textonyx> *From: Christopher Faylor *To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com *Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 21:29:25 -0400 *Subject: Re: compiling flpsed under Cygwin >SH: I assume then that the FAQ does not need to be amended and >that Chris Faylor can contradict the FAQ whenever he chooses. CGF: "Wow, yeah, if the Cygwin FAQ actually said anything like that it would be the cause of some confusion. That is the information you get if you send a command to ezmlm asking for the FAQ for the cygwin-at-cygwin mailing list. The real Cygwin FAQ at http://cygwin.com/faq.html doesn't mention XFree86. http://cygwin.com/lists.html gets it right. The FAQ at x.cygwin.com only mentions XFree86 appropriately. Nevertheless, I have now eliminated the source of your confusion. As embarrassing as it is to admit, I had to ask Igor where in the world this text came from. It is particularly embarrassing because I wrote the words years ago when we were still using XFree86." SH: I had unsubscribed from this mailing list before I read this which annoyed me enough to resubscribe. I remembered reading this in the FAQ, and I thought I was losing my marbles so I took the time to reread the FAQ. Sure enough I found: http://www.cygwin.com/faq/faq_3.html#SEC28 "What Cygwin mailing lists can I join? Comprehensive information about the Cygwin mailing lists can be found at http://cygwin.com/lists.html. "There are a few exceptions to the "all things cygwin" nature of this list: Questions about the Cygwin/X project (or any X-related questions for cygwin) should go to the cygwin-xfree mailing list (see below). cygwin-xfree: a list for discussion of all things related to X on Cygwin (Cygwin/X). If you have questions about how to use, configure, install, build, or develop with Cygwin/X, this is the list for you. If you have general questions about using Cygwin/X, please see the Cygwin/X User's Guide or the Cygwin/X FAQ." SH: I suppose you could make a technical argument that although the FAQ is located at different pages at the same website and the lists.html is located at the same website, perhaps they are not stored in the same directory so therefore not part of the FAQ. But the FAQ uses the word "comprehensive" to describe what you might want to term supplemental documentation, not part of the FAQ. But you mistakenly describe this condition with dismal sarcasm again. CGF writes: "Wow, yeah, if the Cygwin FAQ actually said anything like that it would be the cause of some confusion." SH: I think the FAQ giving providing a "comprehensive" reference and a link to the information falls under the umbrella of "saying anything like that". CGF: Nevertheless, I have now eliminated the source of your confusion. SH: Do you mean by claiming that the source of my confusion was due to my reading ezmlm rather than the same information linked to in the FAQ? The link to lists.html is still in the FAQ. So I imagine you mean that you changed the information in lists.html so that it is indeed "comprehensive" and no longer in need of updating. I read this edited information again: "cygwin-xfree: a list for discussion of all things related to X on Cygwin (Cygwin/X). If you have questions about how to use, configure, install, build, or develop with Cygwin/X, this is the list for you." SH: I think it would suprise most people to know that by "all things" you meant only the ,Xorg X server, and that XFree86 was off-topic. I can't imagine how this is hard to foresee as a source of confusion which you did not eliminate. My problem with flpsed was totally an X problem, how to write the ./configure syntax to enable -lX11 and so falls under having questions about how to use, configure, install build or develop with Cygwin/X. It was solved without any .so files. It was solved without changing my X server, all it needed was the Xorg libraries etc. I told you I had all of them installed which you question out of sheer perveristy later in this post which I will snip. Unlike you, I don't use the word "all" to mean one or some and I suppose that is the source of your confusion since you continue to practice it while you 'eliminate the source of my confusion' which was the misinformation in the contradictory documentation which you as project leader are responsible for. While I was writing I thought about how old you are. I don't think you deliberately and deceitfully presented a less than half-truth. Your sarcasm needs a lot of work. The end of an era is coming, Stephen -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From fooladgh@gmail.com Fri Jul 22 10:44:00 2005 From: fooladgh@gmail.com (Alireza Ghasemi) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:44:00 -0000 Subject: Problem about window managers Message-ID: <000201c58e9d$c9828130$a62fb5d5@keloasc60pobkb> Hello, I compiled Fvwm95 and I tried to run it using " startx -e fvwm95.exe " but it failed and said that " there is Another window manager running " . What's wrong and what should I do to solve it ? Thanks. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From brian@dessent.net Fri Jul 22 11:12:00 2005 From: brian@dessent.net (Brian Dessent) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:12:00 -0000 Subject: Problem about window managers References: <000201c58e9d$c9828130$a62fb5d5@keloasc60pobkb> Message-ID: <42E0D584.D43CA075@dessent.net> Alireza Ghasemi wrote: > I compiled Fvwm95 and I tried to run it using " startx -e fvwm95.exe " but > it failed and said that " there is Another window manager running " . What's > wrong and what should I do to solve it ? You're probably using -multiwindow mode when starting XWin.exe which means that Windows itself is the window manager and you cannot use an external WM. You will need to start with -fullscreen or -rootless (or maybe -mwextwm ??) Brian -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Mathieu.Oudart@cnes.fr Fri Jul 22 11:31:00 2005 From: Mathieu.Oudart@cnes.fr (Mathieu OUDART) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:31:00 -0000 Subject: OpenGL compatibility with Cygwin/X In-Reply-To: References: <200507211322.j6LDMxF04112@cnes.fr> Message-ID: <200507221131.j6MBVH803501@cnes.fr> I've already tried to run Xwin with "-depth 8" and "-fullscreen" without much success. So, the solution is .. to be patient ? Thanks. Alexander Gottwald a ??crit : >Mathieu OUDART wrote: > > > >>Using Xwin_GL >>- glxinfo : >> OpenGL vendor string: Intel >> OpenGL renderer string: Intel Solano >>- glxgears => OK (very fluent) >>- GLUT demo => NO >> GLUT: Fatal Error in (unamed): visual with necessary capabilities >>not found. >>- Tecplot animation => NO (X Protocol error: GLXBadContext) >> >>Using Exceed 3D : >>- Tecplot animation => OK >>- GLUT demo => OK >> >>Does it miss something with my Cygwin/X to get necessary extensions ? >> >> > >The accelerated OpenGL support does still require some work. Maybe running >a different colordepth can help. > >bye > ago > > -- Mathieu OUDART - OSIATIS D??tach?? au CNES pour DSI/EP/ST Support Unix Mail: mathieu.oudart@cnes.fr Tel : 73150 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Fri Jul 22 11:49:00 2005 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:49:00 -0000 Subject: OpenGL compatibility with Cygwin/X In-Reply-To: <200507221131.j6MBVH803501@cnes.fr> References: <200507211322.j6LDMxF04112@cnes.fr> <200507221131.j6MBVH803501@cnes.fr> Message-ID: <1122032951.9227.34.camel@jetpack.demon.co.uk> Mathieu, I had a test version of XWin_GL on my homepage - available at http://www.fairlite.demon.co.uk/XWin_GL.exe Give that a try, and see if it helps. Alan. On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 13:31 +0200, Mathieu OUDART wrote: > I've already tried to run Xwin with "-depth 8" and "-fullscreen" without > much success. > So, the solution is .. to be patient ? > Thanks. > > Alexander Gottwald a ?crit : > > >Mathieu OUDART wrote: > > > > > > > >>Using Xwin_GL > >>- glxinfo : > >> OpenGL vendor string: Intel > >> OpenGL renderer string: Intel Solano > >>- glxgears => OK (very fluent) > >>- GLUT demo => NO > >> GLUT: Fatal Error in (unamed): visual with necessary capabilities > >>not found. > >>- Tecplot animation => NO (X Protocol error: GLXBadContext) > >> > >>Using Exceed 3D : > >>- Tecplot animation => OK > >>- GLUT demo => OK > >> > >>Does it miss something with my Cygwin/X to get necessary extensions ? > >> > >> > > > >The accelerated OpenGL support does still require some work. Maybe running > >a different colordepth can help. > > > >bye > > ago > > > > > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Mathieu.Oudart@cnes.fr Fri Jul 22 13:04:00 2005 From: Mathieu.Oudart@cnes.fr (Mathieu OUDART) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:04:00 -0000 Subject: OpenGL compatibility with Cygwin/X In-Reply-To: <1122032951.9227.34.camel@jetpack.demon.co.uk> References: <200507211322.j6LDMxF04112@cnes.fr> <200507221131.j6MBVH803501@cnes.fr> <1122032951.9227.34.camel@jetpack.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <200507221303.j6MD3s222712@cnes.fr> Thanks Alan, your Xwin_GL seems to greatly improve OpenGL support ! Most of GLUT demos now run perfectly. Only a few of them return a "GLXBadContext" Unfortunately Tecplot also quit with "GLXBadContext". I'll try to contact support about this problem. Be sure I'll get you informed if I find a solution. Regards. Alan Hourihane a ??crit : >Mathieu, > >I had a test version of XWin_GL on my homepage - available at > >http://www.fairlite.demon.co.uk/XWin_GL.exe > >Give that a try, and see if it helps. > >Alan. > >On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 13:31 +0200, Mathieu OUDART wrote: > > >>I've already tried to run Xwin with "-depth 8" and "-fullscreen" without >>much success. >>So, the solution is .. to be patient ? >>Thanks. >> >>Alexander Gottwald a ??crit : >> >> >> >>>Mathieu OUDART wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Using Xwin_GL >>>>- glxinfo : >>>> OpenGL vendor string: Intel >>>> OpenGL renderer string: Intel Solano >>>>- glxgears => OK (very fluent) >>>>- GLUT demo => NO >>>> GLUT: Fatal Error in (unamed): visual with necessary capabilities >>>>not found. >>>>- Tecplot animation => NO (X Protocol error: GLXBadContext) >>>> >>>>Using Exceed 3D : >>>>- Tecplot animation => OK >>>>- GLUT demo => OK >>>> >>>>Does it miss something with my Cygwin/X to get necessary extensions ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>The accelerated OpenGL support does still require some work. Maybe running >>>a different colordepth can help. >>> >>>bye >>> ago >>> >>> >>> >>> > >-- >Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple >Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html >Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ >FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ > > > > > > -- Mathieu OUDART - OSIATIS D??tach?? au CNES pour DSI/EP/ST Support Unix Mail: mathieu.oudart@cnes.fr Tel : 73150 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Fri Jul 22 13:15:00 2005 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:15:00 -0000 Subject: OpenGL compatibility with Cygwin/X In-Reply-To: <200507221303.j6MD3s222712@cnes.fr> References: <200507211322.j6LDMxF04112@cnes.fr> <200507221131.j6MBVH803501@cnes.fr> <1122032951.9227.34.camel@jetpack.demon.co.uk> <200507221303.j6MD3s222712@cnes.fr> Message-ID: <1122038127.9227.66.camel@jetpack.demon.co.uk> Have you got a copy of the XWin output when you run Tecplot. That might help me track things down. I don't think it's a problem with the application if Exceed runs perfectly well with it, so contacting their support may well be fruitless. Alan. On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 15:03 +0200, Mathieu OUDART wrote: > Thanks Alan, > > your Xwin_GL seems to greatly improve OpenGL support ! > > Most of GLUT demos now run perfectly. Only a few of them return a > "GLXBadContext" > > Unfortunately Tecplot also quit with "GLXBadContext". > I'll try to contact support about this problem. > > Be sure I'll get you informed if I find a solution. > > Regards. > > > Alan Hourihane a ?crit : > > >Mathieu, > > > >I had a test version of XWin_GL on my homepage - available at > > > >http://www.fairlite.demon.co.uk/XWin_GL.exe > > > >Give that a try, and see if it helps. > > > >Alan. > > > >On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 13:31 +0200, Mathieu OUDART wrote: > > > > > >>I've already tried to run Xwin with "-depth 8" and "-fullscreen" without > >>much success. > >>So, the solution is .. to be patient ? > >>Thanks. > >> > >>Alexander Gottwald a ?crit : > >> > >> > >> > >>>Mathieu OUDART wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Using Xwin_GL > >>>>- glxinfo : > >>>> OpenGL vendor string: Intel > >>>> OpenGL renderer string: Intel Solano > >>>>- glxgears => OK (very fluent) > >>>>- GLUT demo => NO > >>>> GLUT: Fatal Error in (unamed): visual with necessary capabilities > >>>>not found. > >>>>- Tecplot animation => NO (X Protocol error: GLXBadContext) > >>>> > >>>>Using Exceed 3D : > >>>>- Tecplot animation => OK > >>>>- GLUT demo => OK > >>>> > >>>>Does it miss something with my Cygwin/X to get necessary extensions ? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>The accelerated OpenGL support does still require some work. Maybe running > >>>a different colordepth can help. > >>> > >>>bye > >>> ago > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > >-- > >Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > >Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > >Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ > >FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Klaus.Kassner@physik.uni-magdeburg.de Fri Jul 22 16:01:00 2005 From: Klaus.Kassner@physik.uni-magdeburg.de (Klaus Kassner) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:01:00 -0000 Subject: fonts in Cygwin Message-ID: I have xfig installed under cygwin. The program runs fine, but if I try to input text at size 30 in font Helvetica (which I often do for transparencies), then it does not find the fonts and displays the text as an ugly 12pt times roman. A similar problem on my work computer running under linux was solved by the administrator doing an atp-get to install gsfonts-X11. How do I do a similar thing with cygwin? (Ghostscript and ghostview are installed, but apparently that does not automatically provide the fonts mentioned.) -- Klaus Kassner -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From denk@fmi.uni-passau.de Fri Jul 22 16:24:00 2005 From: denk@fmi.uni-passau.de (Michael Denk) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:24:00 -0000 Subject: fonts in Cygwin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, Klaus Kassner wrote: > I have xfig installed under cygwin. The program runs fine, but if I try > to input text at size 30 in font Helvetica (which I often do for > transparencies), then it does not find the fonts and displays the text > as an ugly 12pt times roman. WJFFM. I have installed all font packages for the X Server, though. I'm guessing the fonts you are lacking are in the package xorg-x11-fnts. You can find it under the category X11 in the Cygwin setup program. If installing this package doesn't help try installing the other font packages as well. Bye, Michael -- Michael Denk Fakult?t f?r Mathematik und Informatik Tel. +49 (0851) 509-3136 Universit?t Passau, Raum K08 IM (Aquarium) denk at fmi.uni-passau.de http://www.fmi.uni-passau.de/~denk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From frederick.baksik@honeywell.com Fri Jul 22 19:08:00 2005 From: frederick.baksik@honeywell.com (Baksik, Frederick (NM75)) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:08:00 -0000 Subject: compiling flpsed under Cyg Message-ID: <0B9EBBE7CA79D7118FD00002B3B2B9B910632B39@nm75ex51.das.honeywell.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-ownerOn Behalf Of Stephen Harris > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:39 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: compiling flpsed under Cyg > SH: I think it would suprise most people to know that by "all things" > you meant only the ,Xorg X server, and that XFree86 was off-topic. > I can't imagine how this is hard to foresee as a source of > confusion which you did not eliminate. My problem with flpsed > was totally an X problem, how to write the ./configure syntax > to enable -lX11 and so falls under having questions about how > to use, configure, install build or develop with Cygwin/X. It > was solved without any .so files. > It was solved without changing my X server, all it needed was > the Xorg libraries etc. I told you I had all of them > installed which you question out of sheer perveristy later in > this post which I will snip. > Unlike you, I don't use the word "all" to mean one or some > and I suppose that is the source of your confusion since you > continue to practice it while you 'eliminate the source of my > confusion' which was the misinformation in the contradictory > documentation which you as project leader are responsible > for. While I was writing I thought about how old you are. I > don't think you deliberately and deceitfully presented a less > than half-truth. Your sarcasm needs a lot of work. > > The end of an era is coming, > Stephen I was going to counter your argument, but there is no point. However, I need to make this comment. You are acting like an ignorant jerk. I'm not saying this to be mean, but so you can understand and correct your behavior. You've insulted everyone who has tried to help, and utterly disregarded their requests for further details into the problem. Next time, You could just provide the requested information with a more humble attitude instead of insulting them. You've whined about the FAQ being incorrect and misleading, but apparently have not read it. I've just finished looking at all referenced portions of the FAQ, it is quite clear. The mailing list is about Cygwin/X. Cygwin/X used to be XFree86, it is now Xorg. Therefore, One can assume that no one is really going to help you with XFree86 questions as it has nothing to do with Cygwin/X anymore, except for some historical perspective. Again, several people asked for technical details, about a technical issue. Most of your replies have been filled with vitriol speech, I would advice in the future that you be a little more polite. I would like to apologize to Brian, Christopher, Alexander, Igor, and all of the other contributors to this project. As a user of Cygwin/X, I must say that you are doing excellent work, I've been using these tools for several months now, and could not be happier. I'm appalled by Stephen Harris's behavior and attitude towards a group of people who devout their precious free time to the benefit of this community. Stephen I can only hope that in the future you act with a little bit more kindness towards these people. The world has enough hate, contempt, and callous behavior going round, do we really need to add to it? -- Frodak -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From dmasterson@vmware.com Fri Jul 22 19:57:00 2005 From: dmasterson@vmware.com (David Masterson) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:57:00 -0000 Subject: 1.5.18-1: Cygwin-X programs immediately crash Message-ID: <1151EBFEB760994A96A622B835374E0F1385D7@PA-ECLUSTER1.vmware.com> This is probably "operator error", but I wonder... I'm trying to (re)install Cygwin (and Cygwin-X) onto a Windows-XP (SP2) system. After installation, X does not seem to work. Can someone tell me why? Here is what I did. First, I ensured that I had removed Cygwin from my system: * I used setup.exe to uninstall everything. * I removed C:\Cygwin * I removed all desktop icons related to Cygwin * I removed the Cygwin and Cygwin-X menu items from Start * I emptied the Recycle Bin * I used regedit to delete "Software\Cygnus Solutions" from HKCU and HKLM Next, I reinstalled Cygwin using setup.exe. I already had everything downloaded to a local drive, so I did a local install (it's up-to-date). I did an install of everything (set All to "Install"). I then used mkpasswd/mkgroup to create passwd/group in /etc. After that, I ran /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh to try to bring up X. The X server comes up and then the Xterm comes up, but the Xterm (almost) immediately crashes. The following is the output in the startxwin window and the output of cygcheck is attached: ==== $ Welcome to the XWin X Server Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project Release: 6.8.2.0-4 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com XWin was started with the following command line: XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error _XSERVTransmkdir: Cannot create /tmp/.X11-unix with root ownership winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information (==) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TT F/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X11R6/l ib/ X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000007 winSetEngine - Multi Window or Rootless => ShadowGDI winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1280 height: 1024 depth: 32 winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 null screen fn ReparentWindow null screen fn RestackWindow InitQueue - Calling pthread_mutex_init InitQueue - pthread_mutex_init returned InitQueue - Calling pthread_cond_init InitQueue - pthread_cond_init returned winInitMultiWindowWM - Hello winInitMultiWindowWM - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Hello winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shar ed memory support in the kernel (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000409" (00000409) (--) Using preset keyboard for "English (USA)" (409), type "4" Rules = "xorg" Model = "pc105" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null )" (--) 5 mouse buttons found Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from li st! winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 640 512 winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_lock () returned. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_lock () returned. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned. winInitMultiWindowWM - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winProcEstablishConnection - Hello winInitClipboard () winClipboardProc - Hello DetectUnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP winClipboardProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 winProcEstablishConnection - winInitClipboard returned. winInitMultiWindowWM - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the disp lay. winMultiWindowXMsgProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the di splay. winClipboardProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display. winProcSetSelectionOwner - Clipboard not yet started, aborting. winProcSetSelectionOwner - Clipboard not yet started, aborting. xterm: warning, error event received: X Error of failed request: 205 Major opcode of failed request: 0 () Serial number of failed request: 205 Current serial number in output stream: 145 ==== ---- David Masterson <> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: cygcheck.out Type: application/octet-stream Size: 56523 bytes Desc: cygcheck.out URL: -------------- next part -------------- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From buckycowpie@yahoo.com Fri Jul 22 20:14:00 2005 From: buckycowpie@yahoo.com (bcp) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:14:00 -0000 Subject: how to get tilde to work with cygwin xterm + bash Message-ID: <20050722201411.72451.qmail@web31002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi, using the combination of cygwin xterm + bash with a local session, the tilde key is dead (pressing it results in nothing on screen). backquote works. if i switch to an alternate shell (sh or zsh), the tilde key will start working again (~ appear on the screen). i'd be glad to rtfm, if someone could point me there - i haven't found anything that was applicable. system: dell latitude D600, win xp sp2, patched up to most recent, cygwin patched up to most recent. thanks, bcp ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cyberdiction@hotmail.com Fri Jul 22 20:20:00 2005 From: cyberdiction@hotmail.com (Mulcyber) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:20:00 -0000 Subject: FAQtual midemeanors Message-ID: *From: Christopher Faylor *To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com *Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 21:29:25 -0400 *Subject: Re: compiling flpsed under Cygwin >SH: I assume then that the FAQ does not need to be amended and >that Chris Faylor can contradict the FAQ whenever he chooses. CGF: "Wow, yeah, if the Cygwin FAQ actually said anything like that it would be the cause of some confusion." That is the information you get if you send a command to ezmlm asking for the FAQ for the cygwin-at-cygwin mailing list. The real Cygwin FAQ at http://cygwin.com/faq.html doesn't mention XFree86. http://cygwin.com/lists.html gets it right. The FAQ at x.cygwin.com only mentions XFree86 appropriately. Nevertheless, I have now eliminated the source of your confusion. As embarrassing as it is to admit, I had to ask Igor where in the world this text came from. It is particularly embarrassing because I wrote the words years ago when we were still using XFree86." SH: I had unsubscribed from this mailing list before I read this which annoyed me enough to resubscribe. I remembered reading this in the FAQ, and I thought I was losing my marbles so I took the time to reread the FAQ. Sure enough I found: http://www.cygwin.com/faq/faq_3.html#SEC28 "What Cygwin mailing lists can I join? Comprehensive information about the Cygwin mailing lists can be found at http://cygwin.com/lists.html. "There are a few exceptions to the "all things cygwin" nature of this list: Questions about the Cygwin/X project (or any X-related questions for cygwin) should go to the cygwin-xfree mailing list (see below). cygwin-xfree: a list for discussion of all things related to X on Cygwin (Cygwin/X). If you have questions about how to use, configure, install, build, or develop with Cygwin/X, this is the list for you. If you have general questions about using Cygwin/X, please see the Cygwin/X User's Guide or the Cygwin/X FAQ." SH: I suppose you could make a technical argument that although the FAQ is located at different pages at the same website and the lists.html is located at the same website, perhaps they are not stored in the same directory so therefore not part of the FAQ. But the FAQ uses the word "comprehensive" to describe what you might want to term supplemental documentation, not part of the FAQ. But you mistakenly describe this condition with dismal sarcasm again. CGF writes: "Wow, yeah, if the Cygwin FAQ actually said anything like that it would be the cause of some confusion." SH: I think the FAQ giving providing a "comprehensive" reference and a link to the information falls under the umbrella of "saying anything like that". CGF: Nevertheless, I have now eliminated the source of your confusion. SH: Do you mean by claiming that the source of my confusion was due to my reading ezmlm rather than the same information linked to in the FAQ? The link to lists.html is still in the FAQ. So I imagine you mean that you changed the information in lists.html so that it is indeed "comprehensive" and no longer in need of updating. I read this edited information again: "cygwin-xfree: a list for discussion of all things related to X on Cygwin (Cygwin/X). If you have questions about how to use, configure, install, build, or develop with Cygwin/X, this is the list for you." SH: I think it would suprise most people to know that by "all things" you mean only, the Xorg X server, and that XFree86 was off-topic. I can't imagine how this is hard to foresee as a source of confusion which you did not eliminate. My problem with flpsed was totally an X problem, how to write the ./configure syntax to enable -lX11 and so falls under having questions about how to use, configure, install build or develop with Cygwin/X. It was solved without any .so files. It was solved without changing my X server, or downloading any additional libraries, all it needed was the already acquired gcc* and Xorg libraries etc. I told you I had all of them installed which you question out of sheer perveristy later in this post which I will snip. Unlike you, I don't use the word "all" to mean one or some and I suppose that is the source of your confusion since you continue to practice it while you 'eliminate the source of my confusion' which was the misinformation in the contradictory documentation which you as project leader are responsible for. While I was writing I thought about how old you are. I don't think you deliberately and deceitfully presented a less than half-truth. Your sarcasm needs a lot of work. This wasn't the first package I worked on that had an involved command line. I installed the preview-latex package for Xemacs. When I said I "desperately" extracted an .so from a Debian package the word desperately was intended to convey I realized this had a very remote chance of success. But my strategy is to leave no stone unturned and the decision could hardly make the compile fail more. You know something about Cygwin, but it is a good thing you are not in charge of documentation since you are linguistically challenged. Let me put that another way: you don't know what words implicate and you have a hard time writing an honest descriptive sentence. Apparently you don't think a supplementary document recommended as "comprehensive" within the FAQ with a link, inherits the FAQ's authoritative permissions as a source of reliable information. CGF wrote: "Wow, yeah, if the Cygwin FAQ actually said anything like that it would be the cause of some confusion." If you don't think the FAQ actually says "anything like that" and no longer serves as a possible cause of some confusion, then you with you budyy, Igor, have the same fine grasp upon reality. Comprehensively, the end of an era is coming, Stephen -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Fri Jul 22 22:05:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 22:05:00 -0000 Subject: how to get tilde to work with cygwin xterm + bash In-Reply-To: <20050722201411.72451.qmail@web31002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050722201411.72451.qmail@web31002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050722220514.GA7968@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 01:14:11PM -0700, bcp wrote: >using the combination of cygwin xterm + bash with a local session, the >tilde key is dead (pressing it results in nothing on screen). >backquote works. if i switch to an alternate shell (sh or zsh), the >tilde key will start working again (~ appear on the screen). > >i'd be glad to rtfm, if someone could point me there - i haven't found >anything that was applicable. > >system: dell latitude D600, win xp sp2, patched up to most recent, >cygwin patched up to most recent. My knowledge may be dated but, IIRC, this is often a readline problem. Do you have a ~/.inputrc file? If so, make sure that the lines in it end only with unix newlines and not with MS-DOS CRLFs. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Fri Jul 22 22:23:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 22:23:00 -0000 Subject: compiling flpsed under Cyg In-Reply-To: <0B9EBBE7CA79D7118FD00002B3B2B9B910632B39@nm75ex51.das.honeywell.com> References: <0B9EBBE7CA79D7118FD00002B3B2B9B910632B39@nm75ex51.das.honeywell.com> Message-ID: <20050722222345.GH459@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 12:07:17PM -0700, Baksik, Frederick (NM75) wrote: >I would like to apologize to Brian, Christopher, Alexander, Igor, and >all of the other contributors to this project. As a user of Cygwin/X, >I must say that you are doing excellent work, I've been using these >tools for several months now, and could not be happier. I'm appalled >by Stephen Harris's behavior and attitude towards a group of people who >devout their precious free time to the benefit of this community. Thanks for the kind words. In this mailing list, most of the kudos belong to Alexander but I am content to bask in his reflected glow. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Sat Jul 23 16:57:00 2005 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:57:00 -0000 Subject: New Cygwin/X and Xming maintainer wanted Message-ID: Hi all, I've signed a working contract with StarNet a few days ago and will not be able to continue working on and maintaining Cygwin/X and Xming. I hope there are users of Cygwin/X who will continue maintaining the cygwin packages and provide fixes and enhancements for the projects. So if you want to continue the work, please email me. I've worked on Cygwin/X for 4 years now. It was an interesting task and I've gained much experience. Getting the opportunity to turn my hobby into professional work is a rare chance I don't want to miss. It was nice time working with you. bye ago -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From 3rdshift@comcast.net Sun Jul 24 04:13:00 2005 From: 3rdshift@comcast.net (Vladislav Grinchenko) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 04:13:00 -0000 Subject: Getting TrueType fonts with cygwin Message-ID: <1122178330.2698.7.camel@dedalus.3rdShift.com> Hi, I have ported one of you Gtkmm GUI apps to cygwin. The only problem is that I can't find how make X11 server use truetype fonts. The expected place to look for xorg.conf would be /etc/X11. Do I need to have font server running? I run X11 in a multi-windows mode with 'startx' and my application is multilingual. Would there be any problem with switching keyboard to different language layout? thanks, -- Vlad _____________________________________________________________ Vladislav Grinchenko http://home.comcast.net/~3rdshift/ e-mail: 3rdshift@comcast.net Focus on quality, and productivity will follow. _____________________________________________________________ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From Klaus.Kassner@physik.uni-magdeburg.de Sun Jul 24 16:58:00 2005 From: Klaus.Kassner@physik.uni-magdeburg.de (Klaus Kassner) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 16:58:00 -0000 Subject: fonts in Cygwin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Michael Denk wrote (schrieb, a ??crit): > On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, Klaus Kassner wrote: > > >>I have xfig installed under cygwin. The program runs fine, but if I try >>to input text at size 30 in font Helvetica (which I often do for >>transparencies), then it does not find the fonts and displays the text >>as an ugly 12pt times roman. > > WJFFM. I have installed all font packages for the X Server, though. I'm > guessing the fonts you are lacking are in the package xorg-x11-fnts. You > can find it under the category X11 in the Cygwin setup program. If > installing this package doesn't help try installing the other font > packages as well. I looked at my installation. I have the xorg-x11-fnts (and I believe all other font packages), and reinstalling them did not change things. However, I noted that I did not completely realize the nature of the problem: I do get most fonts correctly, including, incidentally, the normal Helvetica. But some of the fonts are not there, in particular Helvetica-Narrow. This was just the first font problem I noticed, since Helvetica-Narrow is the font I most often use in transparencies, and I had taken some xfig-generated transparencies from my work computer to my home computer to modify them, which I could not do for lack of the font. I then generalized the problem incorrectly, assuming that *all* larger fonts were missing, probably, because xfig does not replace a missing font by a similar one but just by Times-Roman, size 12. So I don't get Helvetica-Narrow, nor, I believe ZapfChancery. In any case there are several fonts missing, including Helvetica-Narrow. Are there people out there who have them in their default cygwin installation? Now I'm asking myself, whether the font files are different on different linux systems. Since I have fonts in the same directories on my work computer (running under linux) as under cygwin on my home computer, and they seem to have the same names (I'll have to verify that in detail), I wonder whether the problem could be simply solved by copying the missing font files by hand from my work computer to my home computer... -- Klaus Kassner -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Sun Jul 24 17:01:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 17:01:00 -0000 Subject: New Cygwin/X and Xming maintainer wanted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050724170127.GA6168@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Sat, Jul 23, 2005 at 06:56:15PM +0200, Alexander Gottwald wrote: >I've signed a working contract with StarNet a few days ago and will not be >able to continue working on and maintaining Cygwin/X and Xming. Thanks for your contributions to Cygwin/X, Alexander. >I hope there are users of Cygwin/X who will continue maintaining the cygwin >packages and provide fixes and enhancements for the projects. So if you >want to continue the work, please email me. Please cc me as well so that I can be aware of what's happening. I'll need to set up whomever volunteers with new privileges on sourceware.org eventually. me at cgf dot cx. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From dmasterson@vmware.com Mon Jul 25 19:39:00 2005 From: dmasterson@vmware.com (David Masterson) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:39:00 -0000 Subject: 1.5.18: I give up... Message-ID: <1151EBFEB760994A96A622B835374E0F1385F8@PA-ECLUSTER1.vmware.com> Well, I've tried to install the latest version of Cygwin from mirrors.kernel.org onto my Windows-XP (SP2) system several times now without much luck. I'm pretty sure (based on previous usage and all the other people using it) that its a problem in my environment, but I don't know what. I'm wasting too much time to try to solve this, so I'll have to look for another way. My goal was to install the Cygwin X server so that I could display X programs from other systems locally. Along the way, I ran into a number of issues (minor to large) that I'll mention here: * I chose to use setup.exe (v2.457.2.2) to download everything to a local directory and then install my choices (usually everything) from the local directory. This generally works well and I have no problems with the process, but... * At my work, I have to use a proxy server with (I guess) a weird port number. Although I filled this information into setup.exe and it worked fine with it, setup forgot the port number on subsequent runs (it fell back to port 80). * When looking at the categorized list of things to select to install, I would expand a category by clicking on the "+". Most systems would change the "+" to a "-", but not setup.exe (a very minor issue). * After installing everything, if I couldn't get X to work properly (see below), I would immediately use setup.exe to uninstall everything. While doing the uninstall of some packages, setup.exe would report missing DLL(s), but it didn't give an indication of what to do about it (other than acknowledge the error). * After I installed everything and had modified my /etc/passwd and /etc/group, I tried to bring up the X server via /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh. It brought up the X server and tried to bring up the xterm, but the xterm died before it finished printing my prompt. I've posted about this before, but no replies to this and I haven't got the time to do the serious debugging necessary. * Previously with 1.5.17, the xterm did come up properly, but Emacs (started locally or remotely) would immediately fail. XEmacs (started locally or remotely) would seem to work until you tried to exit and then would crash. I guess I'll give Cygwin some time to "mature" and come back to it in the future. ---- David Masterson -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From kdibble@alltel.net Mon Jul 25 20:04:00 2005 From: kdibble@alltel.net (Ken Dibble) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:04:00 -0000 Subject: gv: Unable to open the display. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42E5459F.3010701@alltel.net> lin q wrote: > Hi, > I just installed gv using the cygwin installer, I select "Download > from the internet" option and the install process runs for quite a while. > > After that I run "/usr/X11R6/bin/gv.exe" and I saw this error, > > gv: Unable to open the display. > > What does that mean? > > Should I install something else for gv to run? Shoudn't cygwin > installer already consider that? > > Thanks. Moved to Cygwin-Xfree . Is X running or are you trying to run gv from a cmd-type shell? You'll probably get more help if you follow the problem reporting guidelines at http://cygwin.com/problems.html Tthe XWin log file would be helpful as well. Regards, Ken -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From linq936@hotmail.com Mon Jul 25 21:41:00 2005 From: linq936@hotmail.com (lin q) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:41:00 -0000 Subject: gv: Unable to open the display. In-Reply-To: <42E5459F.3010701@alltel.net> Message-ID: >From: Ken Dibble >To: cygwin , cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Re: gv: Unable to open the display. >Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:03:43 -0500 > > > > > >lin q wrote: > >>Hi, >> I just installed gv using the cygwin installer, I select "Download from >>the internet" option and the install process runs for quite a while. >> >> After that I run "/usr/X11R6/bin/gv.exe" and I saw this error, >> >>gv: Unable to open the display. >> >> What does that mean? >> >> Should I install something else for gv to run? Shoudn't cygwin installer >>already consider that? >> >>Thanks. > >Moved to Cygwin-Xfree . > >Is X running or are you trying to run gv from a cmd-type shell? > >You'll probably get more help if you follow the problem reporting >guidelines at >http://cygwin.com/problems.html > >Tthe XWin log file would be helpful as well. > >Regards, >Ken > It seems I should know a lot more to make gv running... My only purpose is to view a postscript file content and as I know I should run gv, so i installed gv package and then in cygwin shell I type "/usr/X11R6/bin/gv.exe". In the installation process there is nothing obvious wrong. You mentioned I should run X first, what that mean? Is there some program I should run before I fire up gv? Thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From lh-no-personal-replies-please@cygwin.com Mon Jul 25 23:04:00 2005 From: lh-no-personal-replies-please@cygwin.com (Larry Hall) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 23:04:00 -0000 Subject: gv: Unable to open the display. In-Reply-To: References: <42E5459F.3010701@alltel.net> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050725185554.03d513e0@pop.prospeed.net> At 05:41 PM 7/25/2005, you wrote: >>From: Ken Dibble >>To: cygwin , cygwin-xfree@foo.bar ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>Subject: Re: gv: Unable to open the display. >>Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:03:43 -0500 >> >> >> >> >> >>lin q wrote: >> >>>Hi, >>> I just installed gv using the cygwin installer, I select "Download from the internet" option and the install process runs for quite a while. >>> >>> After that I run "/usr/X11R6/bin/gv.exe" and I saw this error, >>> >>>gv: Unable to open the display. >>> >>> What does that mean? >>> >>> Should I install something else for gv to run? Shoudn't cygwin installer already consider that? >>> >>>Thanks. >> >>Moved to Cygwin-Xfree . >> >>Is X running or are you trying to run gv from a cmd-type shell? >> >>You'll probably get more help if you follow the problem reporting guidelines at >>http://cygwin.com/problems.html >> >>Tthe XWin log file would be helpful as well. >> >>Regards, >>Ken >It seems I should know a lot more to make gv running... > >My only purpose is to view a postscript file content and as I know I should run gv, so i installed gv package and then in cygwin shell I type "/usr/X11R6/bin/gv.exe". 'gv' is an X program. It requires the X-server to run before it will display. You need to start the server first. Type 'startxwin' and that should help. For more info, see: >In the installation process there is nothing obvious wrong. There isn't anything wrong. 'setup.exe' knows 'gv' is a X program. It knew to install the X-server for you. But you have to know to run the server. >You mentioned I should run X first, what that mean? Is there some program I should run before I fire up gv? Yep, as I mentioned above. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 838 Washington Street (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From m.hadfield@niwa.co.nz Tue Jul 26 00:00:00 2005 From: m.hadfield@niwa.co.nz (Mark Hadfield) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: gv: Unable to open the display. In-Reply-To: References: <42E5459F.3010701@alltel.net> Message-ID: lin q wrote: > ... > My only purpose is to view a postscript file content and as I know I > should run gv, so i installed gv package and then in cygwin shell I type > "/usr/X11R6/bin/gv.exe". If your only purpose is to view a Postscript file, have you considered using the native windows version of Ghostscript and the viewer Gsview: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/ I mean, Cygwin is a marvellous package for emulating Unix on Windows *where necessary* but in this case I don't think it's necessary. Disclaimer: I am not trying to start an "X sucks/X rules" flame war here. -- Mark Hadfield "Kei puwaha te tai nei, Hoea tahi tatou" m.hadfield@niwa.co.nz National Institute for Water and Atmospheric Research (NIWA) -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From boaz@hishome.net Tue Jul 26 06:40:00 2005 From: boaz@hishome.net (Boaz Harrosh) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 06:40:00 -0000 Subject: 1.5.18: I give up... In-Reply-To: <1151EBFEB760994A96A622B835374E0F1385F8@PA-ECLUSTER1.vmware.com> References: <1151EBFEB760994A96A622B835374E0F1385F8@PA-ECLUSTER1.vmware.com> Message-ID: <42E5E9EC.30707@hishome.net> David Masterson wrote: >... >I guess I'll give Cygwin some time to "mature" and come back to it in the >future. > > It is all working here very well. (XP SP2 latest updates) It is obviously something with your setup. Maybe an old cygwin1.dll somewhere. Or an extra local Firewall, or all local ports close, or ... But if it is only X you need try out Xming (googleit) . It has a nice simple Installer and not so many things to break up. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From rajagopk@deshaw.com Tue Jul 26 08:37:00 2005 From: rajagopk@deshaw.com (Rajagopalan, Karthik) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 08:37:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86 command line installation Message-ID: <206C1A53A7F2834DBB7F4BDEBA2DC9E801291D03@mshyd3.hyd.deshaw.com> Hi, This is a question about Cygwin-XFree86 installation. I am trying to install XFree86 from command line in silent mode without any user interface. But on using the command structure setup.exe -L -R "c:\test\xfree86" -q -l "c:\cygwin" -n -5 I am seeing the progress bar dialog. Is it not possible to install completely in silent mode? Regards, Karthik. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From colin.harrison@virgin.net Tue Jul 26 13:29:00 2005 From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (Colin Harrison) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 13:29:00 -0000 Subject: New Cygwin/X and Xming maintainer wanted Message-ID: <200507261329.j6QDT3ZD004671@StraightRunning.com> Hi, Thanks Alexander. I think, like me, the users of Cygwin/X and Xming will miss the fantastic job you've been doing. I compile my own versions, for my own use, and latterly am migrated to Xming on re-builds/new machines. If it wasn't for the daily chore of answering loadsa mail (of which I am guilty myself of many a lazy plea for help when I should RFM), I'd have a go myself at running, at least part, of the shop. I currently am set up to build phreads 2-7-0 and Xming (current CVS xorg) cross compiled using:- MinGW (binutils-2.15.91-20040904-1 gcc-core-3.4.2-20040916-1 gcc-g++-3.4.2-20040916-1 mingw-runtime-3.7 w32api-3.2 ++) on a Mandrake 10.2 based linux machine. The built 'latest and greatest' phreadGC2.dll and Xming.exe (built console less) are stripped and parachuted over an 'out-of the-box' installation and used with a remote linux font server in multiwindow and XDMCP modes (en_GB or en). More details can be supplied, if anyone is keen on DIY, as this setup is more up-to-date, and universal, than Alex's Xming build notes on the web http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Xming_2fBuilding Also these built images could be made freely available on an ad hoc basis..when I need to keep up with Xwin patches or feel the urge for a shiny new system to play with. No promises, but this project should not be left to rust away, and I will be using it for a long time to come. Colin Harrison -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From dmasterson@vmware.com Tue Jul 26 15:35:00 2005 From: dmasterson@vmware.com (David Masterson) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:35:00 -0000 Subject: 1.5.18: I give up... Message-ID: <1151EBFEB760994A96A622B835374E0F138603@PA-ECLUSTER1.vmware.com> Boaz Harrosh scribbled on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:45 AM: > David Masterson wrote: >> I guess I'll give Cygwin some time to "mature" and come back to it >> in the future. > It is all working here very well. (XP SP2 latest updates) It is > obviously something with your setup. I agree. The word "mature" was probably not the best -- I intended it to mean my environment more than Cygwin. > Maybe an old cygwin1.dll somewhere. Or an extra local Firewall, or all > local ports close, or ... I recently found out that my IP address had two names and I'm still investigating the effects of that. > But if it is only X you need try out Xming (googleit) . It has a nice > simple Installer and not so many things to break up. Hmmm. Thanks. ---- David Masterson -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From denk@fmi.uni-passau.de Tue Jul 26 17:19:00 2005 From: denk@fmi.uni-passau.de (Michael Denk) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:19:00 -0000 Subject: fonts in Cygwin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 24 Jul 2005, Klaus Kassner wrote: > I do get most fonts correctly, including, incidentally, the normal > Helvetica. But some of the fonts are not there, in particular > Helvetica-Narrow. Ah, now I see your problem. Doesn't work for me either with Helvetica-Narrow. > So I don't get Helvetica-Narrow, nor, I believe ZapfChancery. In any > case there are several fonts missing, including Helvetica-Narrow. Are > there people out there who have them in their default cygwin > installation? I did some research: The Postscript fonts that Ghostscript uses aren't normally available to X programs, e.g. Xfig. This causes the error messages about missing fonts you mentioned. You mentioned the Debian package gsfonts-x11. This package solves the above problem by telling X of the existence of the Ghostscript fonts. I'm currently working on a similar solution for Cygwin---stay tuned. 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Please send your answers to the following address : MuftaSoft(TM) 92-21-4980523 92-333-2335380 C-55 Block A KDA Officers Karachi 75260 Pakistan. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From muftasoft_1004@yahoo.com Tue Jul 26 22:43:00 2005 From: muftasoft_1004@yahoo.com (muftasoft_1004@yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 22:43:00 -0000 Subject: Commercial Support for Free Software Message-ID: <20050726224542.AF2F640400C@happy3.com> Introducing MuftaSoft(TM) For the past 40 years since the dawn of the computer age, many people made software for fun. A lot of the software is available for free. The only thing lacking in the widespread use of such softwares is guaranteed availability of serious support from either the developers, maintainers or any third party. 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Some of the free softwares which we provide support for : Office Softwares OpenOffice.org KOffice AbiWord Gnumeric OpenOffice writer OpenOffice Calc OpenOffice Impress OpenOffice Draw Group wares Kolab eGroupWare Kroupware phpGroupware PHProjekt Browsers Mozilla.org Firefox Galeon Firebird Konqueror Epiphany Email Clients Thunderbird Evolution Kmail Kontact Remote Administration Rfbdrake VNC RDP telnet ssh Dial-in to tty Dial-in to pppd rdesktop TightVNC Web Servers Apache apache.org Web Server Status AWStats Webalizer Telephony servers Asterisk DNS Server BIND Anti virus Clam Anti virus ERP Softwares Compiere SMTP Servers Courier MTA Postfix postfix.org Exim Sendmail sendmail.org Qmail Print Servers CUPS Network Monitoring Ethereal MRTG Nessus nmap snort Chatting Softwares Gaim Kopete Skype Chatting Servers Jabber ircd PDF and PostScript softwares. Ghostscript Xpdf Kghostview Desktops Gnome KDE Accounting Softwares GNUCash Terminal Servers LTSP K12LTSP Multimedia Softwares MPlayer Kaffine Xine Databases MySQL PostgreSQL Security Softwares OpenSSL OpenVPN Network Authentication OpenLDAP File and Print Sharing Samba SMB4K Nautilus Lineighborhood Desktop Publishing Scribus Administration Webmin Windows Emulators Wine Games Doom SuperTux Chromium Lbreakout2 Frozen Bubbles Web Editors Quanta Plus Screem Mozilla Text Editors Gedit mc joe vi Kwrite FTP Servers wu-fptd profptd vsftpd FTP clients mc Internet Explorer gftp ncftp Project, Task and Time Management Karm Korganizer Imendio Planner Kalarm Accessories Kcalc Video Conferencing Gnomemeeting Scanning Xsane scan_to_file CD Writing xcdroast cdrecord copy_dir_to_cd K3b Graphics Editing Gimp Graphing Gnuplot If you fill out and send us the following information then you shall be entered into a draw to win FREE CDs, Books, Seminars, Consultancy, Presentations and Courses from Muftasoft(TM). Name, Designation, Phone Number, Office Address, Email How many computers are used in your office. What percentage of computers are using Licenced software but the licence is not paid for or has expired. What percentage of computers are using Free and OpenSource Software (FOSS) How many new computers are planned and which kinds of OpenSource softwares are required for them. How many people are there in the computer department. What percentage of computer department people are interested in acquiring training and support for using OpenSource softwares now or in the future. What is the size of the Internet connection currently and the planned size next year. Please send your answers to the following address : MuftaSoft(TM) 92-21-4980523 92-333-2335380 C-55 Block A KDA Officers Karachi 75260 Pakistan. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From gerrit@familiehaase.de Tue Jul 26 23:02:00 2005 From: gerrit@familiehaase.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 23:02:00 -0000 Subject: 1.5.18: I give up... In-Reply-To: <1151EBFEB760994A96A622B835374E0F1385F8@PA-ECLUSTER1.vmware.com> References: <1151EBFEB760994A96A622B835374E0F1385F8@PA-ECLUSTER1.vmware.com> Message-ID: <42E6C10E.3040100@familiehaase.de> David Masterson wrote: > * At my work, I have to use a proxy server with (I guess) a weird port > number. Although I filled this information into setup.exe and it worked fine > with it, setup forgot the port number on subsequent runs (it fell back to > port 80). There is an option to use the same settings as used within Internet Explorer where you define a proxy too. Works automatically for me, actually I only need IE for setup.exe to remember the proxy settings ;) Gerrit -- =^..^= -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From rajagopk@deshaw.com Wed Jul 27 06:21:00 2005 From: rajagopk@deshaw.com (Rajagopalan, Karthik) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 06:21:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86 command line installation Message-ID: <206C1A53A7F2834DBB7F4BDEBA2DC9E801291D25@mshyd3.hyd.deshaw.com> Hi, This is a question about Cygwin-XFree86 installation. I am trying to install XFree86 from command line in silent mode without any user interface. But on using the command structure setup.exe -L -R "c:\test\xfree86" -q -l "c:\cygwin" -n -5 I am seeing the progress bar dialog. Is it not possible to install completely in silent mode? Regards, Karthik. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From colin.harrison@virgin.net Wed Jul 27 09:12:00 2005 From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (Colin Harrison) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:12:00 -0000 Subject: Make XWinrc work on Xming Message-ID: <200507270912.j6R9ChiT007508@StraightRunning.com> Hi, I have a crude patch to make XWinrc work on Xming (for use when crosscompiled using MinGW):- --- programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/save_winprefs.c 2005-07-26 22:22:03.000000000 +0100 +++ programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winprefs.c 2005-07-27 09:58:51.000000000 +0100 @@ -380,7 +380,16 @@ else return TRUE; break; -#endif +#else + case CMD_EXEC: + { + char buffer[MAX_PATH]; + snprintf(buffer, sizeof(buffer), "cmd /c \"%s\"", m->menuItem[j].param); + buffer[sizeof(buffer)-1] = 0; + system(buffer); + } + return TRUE; +#endif case CMD_ALWAYSONTOP: if (!hwnd) return FALSE; Colin Harrison -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Wed Jul 27 14:20:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:20:00 -0000 Subject: Make XWinrc work on Xming In-Reply-To: <200507270912.j6R9ChiT007508@StraightRunning.com> References: <200507270912.j6R9ChiT007508@StraightRunning.com> Message-ID: <20050727142009.GD10041@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 10:12:47AM +0100, Colin Harrison wrote: >Hi, > >I have a crude patch to make XWinrc work on Xming (for use when >crosscompiled using MinGW):- Wrong mailing list. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Wed Jul 27 15:17:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:17:00 -0000 Subject: XFree86 command line installation In-Reply-To: <206C1A53A7F2834DBB7F4BDEBA2DC9E801291D25@mshyd3.hyd.deshaw.com> References: <206C1A53A7F2834DBB7F4BDEBA2DC9E801291D25@mshyd3.hyd.deshaw.com> Message-ID: Karthik, Reposting the same question every 24 hours will not get you closer to the answer. On Wed, 27 Jul 2005, Rajagopalan, Karthik wrote: > Hi, > > This is a question about Cygwin-XFree86 installation. To dispell a myth, there is no such thing as a separate XFree86 installation. There is a Cygwin installer, named setup.exe, which can be used to install *any* Cygwin packages, including the Cygwin/X ones. Which, BTW, makes this question less appropriate for the cygwin-xfree list, and more appropriate for the main Cygwin list, which is where I'm redirecting this reply. Please remove cygwin-xfree from further discussion unless it comes to Cygwin/X-specific points. > I am trying to install XFree86 from command line in silent mode without > any user interface. Another note: the Cygwin/X implementation has switched from the XFree86 codebase to the X.org codebase a long while ago. I suspect you want to install the current versions of the X packages. Calling them XFree86 is likely to result in confusion. > But on using the command structure > > setup.exe -L -R "c:\test\xfree86" -q -l "c:\cygwin" -n -5 > > I am seeing the progress bar dialog. Is it not possible to install > completely in silent mode? No, it is currently not possible. The Cygwin installer is a graphical application. You can run it in unattended mode, but you cannot tell it to not create a Window. That said, there may be other tools that allow opening a GUI application without a window. You could use one of those tools to invoke setup.exe, which will hide the main window. Before you ask, I'm not aware of any Cygwin tools that would do this. I'd suggest checking the MS Knowledge Base. HTH, Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From colin.harrison@virgin.net Wed Jul 27 17:00:00 2005 From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (Colin Harrison) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:00:00 -0000 Subject: Make XWinrc work on Xming Message-ID: <200507271700.j6RH02Vi020843@StraightRunning.com> Hi, >Wrong mailing list. Same code base as Cygwin/X..break one and you break both Xming and Xwin. Is the code to be maintained solely under freedesktop, or is it to fork? http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Xming doesn't seem to have it's own mailinglist..it hijacks mailto:win32-x11@sources.redhat.com, so confused. All under a RedHat/X11 GPL? Colin Harrison -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Wed Jul 27 17:50:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:50:00 -0000 Subject: Make XWinrc work on Xming In-Reply-To: <200507271700.j6RH02Vi020843@StraightRunning.com> References: <200507271700.j6RH02Vi020843@StraightRunning.com> Message-ID: <20050727175017.GI31984@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 06:00:09PM +0100, Colin Harrison wrote: >>Wrong mailing list. > >Same code base as Cygwin/X..break one and you break both Xming and Xwin. >Is the code to be maintained solely under freedesktop, or is it to fork? >http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Xming doesn't seem to have it's own >mailinglist..it hijacks mailto:win32-x11 AT sources..., Yes, the win32-x11 mailing list is where xming is discussed. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From colin.harrison@virgin.net Wed Jul 27 18:51:00 2005 From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (Colin Harrison) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:51:00 -0000 Subject: Make XWinrc work on Xming Message-ID: <200507271851.j6RIpSAB026868@StraightRunning.com> Hi, OK we have a dilemma here. The codebase needs maintaining. Cygwin/X (server and full X11 installation) is too useful to neglect, Xming is fairly new and little known ('simple' server only) and lacks a 'proper' home (i.e. mail on obsolete site http://sourceware.org/win32-x11/, wiki on http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Xming). My view is that both 'products' are too useful to be homed separate because of their differences in compilation and dependencies. We need a debate here to stimulate interest in improving the code base, as well as provisioning help for user problems. Any opinions? How should we proceed? How/where should the codebase be maintained/improved/homed? Colin Harrison -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Wed Jul 27 19:02:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 19:02:00 -0000 Subject: Make XWinrc work on Xming In-Reply-To: <200507271851.j6RIpSAB026868@StraightRunning.com> References: <200507271851.j6RIpSAB026868@StraightRunning.com> Message-ID: <20050727190216.GC8798@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 07:51:36PM +0100, Colin Harrison wrote: >OK we have a dilemma here. The codebase needs maintaining. There is no dilemma. If you have a xming specific patch, then send email to the xming mailing list. Things have been working like this for some time. We are currently in need of a maintainer but that doesn't mean that we suddenly need to change the rules. >Cygwin/X (server and full X11 installation) is too useful to neglect, Xming >is fairly new and little known ('simple' server only) and lacks a 'proper' >home (i.e. mail on obsolete site http://sourceware.org/win32-x11/, sourceware.org is not an obsolete site. The mailing list has been working for months. The win32-x11 web page has not been maintained but there is no reason why it couldn't be. >wiki on http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Xming). This reflects the preferences of the previous maintainer. I'm not going to debate policy if we don't have a maintainer. >My view is that both 'products' are too useful to be homed separate >because of their differences in compilation and dependencies. We will be sticking with the consistent policy that has been used for all of the cygwin mailing lists. We discuss cygwin-specific issues in the cygwin mailing lists. We don't discuss non-cygwin issues in the cygwin mailing lists. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From colin.harrison@virgin.net Wed Jul 27 23:52:00 2005 From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (Colin Harrison) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 23:52:00 -0000 Subject: Make XWinrc work on Xming Message-ID: <200507272352.j6RNqVSc000837@StraightRunning.com> Hi, I've not seen a patch for Xming that was not for Cygwin/X. win32-x11 is a dead parrot, anyone using it please stand up now! This is open source, all the previous maintainers, of Xwin, got a job with companies with an interest in selling X servers, and got the 'no longer do that, I own you, and everything you do' contract, or maybe, more generously, have no more spare time? Let's all get a proper job then in the Cathedral. Colin Harrison -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From ron_geis@yahoo.com Thu Jul 28 17:06:00 2005 From: ron_geis@yahoo.com (Ron Geis) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:06:00 -0000 Subject: Translucency Support? Message-ID: <20050728170555.68288.qmail@web53309.mail.yahoo.com> Has anyone been able to get transparent terminal windows working under Cygwin? I've been spending lots of time trying to figure out how to do so, or even if it's possible. I'm running Cygwin on Windows XP, and using MRXVT terminal. I've read that I need to add entries to my xorg.conf file and compile xcompmgr and transset. I have not been able to compile xcompmgr. Is that program even necessary? Is it even possible to get transparent xterms running under Cygwin on Windows XP? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From colin.harrison@virgin.net Thu Jul 28 17:43:00 2005 From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (Colin Harrison) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:43:00 -0000 Subject: Make XWinrc work on Xming Message-ID: <200507281001.j6SA1Vmw012517@StraightRunning.com> Hi, Patches will be taken elsewhere. They should be given to freedesktop and are not under RedHat's GPL. Hey, just noticed, X.org is sponsored by Hummingbird and Starnet, I bet they just love Xwin and Xming! It's been fun. Bye Colin -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com Thu Jul 28 17:50:00 2005 From: cgf-no-personal-reply-please@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:50:00 -0000 Subject: Make XWinrc work on Xming In-Reply-To: <200507281001.j6SA1Vmw012517@StraightRunning.com> References: <200507281001.j6SA1Vmw012517@StraightRunning.com> Message-ID: <20050728174957.GA21149@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 11:01:34AM +0100, Colin Harrison wrote: >Patches will be taken elsewhere. Wow. You sure are making a big deal out of a simple request to use a different mailing list. >They should be given to freedesktop and are not under RedHat's GPL. Red Hat's GPL? The GPL is an FSF invention and Red Hat has nothing to do with cygwin-xfree in any way. There are no Red Hat licensing issues with Cygwin/X or Xming. >Hey, just noticed, X.org is sponsored by Hummingbird and Starnet, I bet >they just love Xwin and Xming! Yeah, and I'll bet StarNet loves Hummingbird and vice versa. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From albattil@tin.it Thu Jul 28 23:34:00 2005 From: albattil@tin.it (albattil@tin.it) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:34:00 -0000 Subject: X/cygwin keymap load error Message-ID: <42E108AC00003B31@ims9c.cp.tin.it> Can you help me to solve the keybord load error? in /tmp/XWin.log the message is: (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: "00000410" (00000410) (--) Using preset keyboard for "Italian" (410), type "4" (EE) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap When I try to use (from FAQ) $ setxkbmap.exe de -model pc105 Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property Use defaults: rules - 'xorg' model - 'pc101' layout - 'us' Aborted (core dumped) $ xkbcomp -w 3 -xkm -m it /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 localhost:0.0 Error: Can't find file "xfree86" for keycodes include Exiting Abandoning keycodes file "it Thank you in advance Alessandro -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From oyvind.harboe@zylin.com Fri Jul 29 08:08:00 2005 From: oyvind.harboe@zylin.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D8yvind?= Harboe) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:08:00 -0000 Subject: Crash in CygWin/X Message-ID: <1122624459.6325.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Last I checked it wasn't possible to debug CygWin/X using Insight, but Xming which uses the same codebase in all interesting respects, can be debugged using CygWin Insight. Please advise if there is a change in this situation. Until proven otherwise, experience shows that it is prudent to assume that rendering crashes will happen with both CygWin/X & Xming. Here is a crash that was caught and debugged with Xming 20050705: http://sourceware.org/ml/win32-x11/2005-q3/msg00015.html -- ?yvind Harboe http://www.zylin.com -------------- next part -------------- gdb) thread apply all bt Thread 5 (thread 1452.0x814): #0 0x77f82870 in ntdll!ZwWaitForSingleObject () from /ecos-c/WINNT/system32/NTDLL.DLL #1 0x74fd1275 in DCISetSrcDestClip () from /ecos-c/WINNT/system32/msafd.dll #2 0x000001c8 in ?? () #3 0x00000001 in ?? () #4 0x020beb3c in ?? () #5 0x020bef08 in ?? () #6 0x020bebc4 in ?? () #7 0x020bebb4 in ?? () #8 0x000000d0 in ?? () #9 0x000201c8 in ?? () #10 0xffb3b4c0 in ?? () #11 0xffffffff in ?? () #12 0x00295a00 in ?? () #13 0x00000000 in ?? () from Thread 4 (thread 1452.0x724): #0 0x77f82870 in ntdll!ZwWaitForSingleObject () from /ecos-c/WINNT/system32/NTDLL.DLL #1 0x74fd1275 in DCISetSrcDestClip () from /ecos-c/WINNT/system32/msafd.dll #2 0x00000174 in ?? () #3 0x00000001 in ?? () #4 0x01cbe17c in ?? () #5 0x01cbe328 in ?? () #6 0x01cbe204 in ?? () #7 0x01cbe1f4 in ?? () #8 0x34b8b930 in ?? () #9 0x01c5940f in ?? () #10 0xffb3b4c0 in ?? () #11 0xffffffff in ?? () #12 0x0026dfc8 in ?? () #13 0x00000000 in ?? () from Thread 3 (thread 1452.0x720): #0 0x77f8287e in ntdll!ZwWaitForMultipleObjects () from /ecos-c/WINNT/system32/NTDLL.DLL #1 0x7c59a1af in WaitForMultipleObjectsEx () from /ecos-c/WINNT/system32/KERNEL32.DLL #2 0x7c59a0c2 in WaitForMultipleObjects () from /ecos-c/WINNT/system32/KERNEL32.DLL #3 0x01abfd80 in ?? () #4 0x00000001 in ?? () #5 0x00000000 in ?? () from Thread 2 (thread 1452.0x738): #0 0x77f8287e in ntdll!ZwWaitForMultipleObjects () from /ecos-c/WINNT/system32/NTDLL.DLL #1 0x7c59a1af in WaitForMultipleObjectsEx () from /ecos-c/WINNT/system32/KERNEL32.DLL #2 0x7c59a0c2 in WaitForMultipleObjects () from /ecos-c/WINNT/system32/KERNEL32.DLL #3 0x012afd48 in ?? () #4 0x00000001 in ?? () #5 0x00000000 in ?? () from Thread 1 (thread 1452.0x5a4): #0 0x0049143e in fbRasterizeEdges8 (buf=0x24261c8, width=280, stride=70, l=0x22fd80, r=0x22fd50, t=2184, b=849782) at fbedgeimp.h:111 #1 0x00491d74 in fbRasterizeEdges (buf=0x24261c8, bpp=8, width=280, stride=70, l=0x22fd80, r=0x22fd50, t=2184, b=849782) at fbedge.c:130 #2 0x00477838 in fbRasterizeTrapezoid (pPicture=0x2380050, trap=0x23bf248, x_off=-1, y_off=0) at fbtrap.c:143 #3 0x005aae69 in miTrapezoids (op=3 '\003', pSrc=0x24bc0f8, pDst=0x24bb598, maskFormat=0x17c17c8, xSrc=0, ySrc=0, ntrap=1, traps=0x23bf248) at mitrap.c:171 #4 0x0059dcf6 in CompositeTrapezoids (op=3 '\003', pSrc=0x24bc0f8, pDst=0x24bb598, maskFormat=0x17c17c8, xSrc=0, ySrc=0, ntrap=1, traps=0x23bf248) at picture.c:1729 #5 0x005a2c9a in ProcRenderTrapezoids (client=0x184c2a8) at render.c:817 #6 0x005a5a02 in ProcRenderDispatch (client=0x184c2a8) at render.c:1995 #7 0x00409d88 in Dispatch () at dispatch.c:453 #8 0x00401873 in main (argc=4, argv=0x3f23d0, envp=0x3f2c18) at main.c:450 (gdb) info locals __a = 17 xi = 280 __ap = (CARD8 *) 0x2427000
lxs = 0 rxs = 0 lx = 0 rx = 18350080 lxi = 0 rxi = 280 y = 788616 line = (FbBits *) 0x2426ee8 - 0x491422 : movzwl 0xffffffd6(%ebp),%eax - 0x491426 : shr $0x8,%eax - 0x491429 : neg %al - 0x49142b : or %dl,%al - 0x49142d : mov %al,(%ecx) - 0x49142f : lea 0xffffffe0(%ebp),%eax - 0x491432 : incl (%eax) - 0x491434 : lea 0xffffffd0(%ebp),%eax - 0x491437 : incl (%eax) - 0x491439 : jmp 0x491405 - 0x49143b : mov 0xffffffe0(%ebp),%eax !!!!! culprit on line below - 0x49143e : movzbw (%eax),%dx - 0x491442 : mov 0xffffffd8(%ebp),%eax - 0x491445 : lea (%edx,%eax,1),%eax - 0x491448 : mov %ax,0xffffffd6(%ebp) - 0x49144c : mov 0xffffffe0(%ebp),%ecx - 0x49144f : movzwl 0xffffffd6(%ebp),%edx - 0x491453 : movzwl 0xffffffd6(%ebp),%eax - 0x491457 : shr $0x8,%eax - 0x49145a : neg %al - 0x49145c : or %dl,%al - 0x49145e : mov %al,(%ecx) - 0x491460 : mov 0xfffffff8(%ebp),%eax (gdb) info registers eax 0x2427000 37908480 ecx 0x2426fff 37908479 edx 0x11 17 ebx 0x4000 16384 esp 0x22fcc0 0x22fcc0 ebp 0x22fcf0 0x22fcf0 esi 0x6ce48 446024 edi 0x0 0 eip 0x49143e 0x49143e eflags 0x210246 2163270 cs 0x1b 27 ss 0x23 35 ds 0x23 35 es 0x23 35 fs 0x38 56 gs 0x0 0 Evidence that the previous page(4096 bytes) is valid: (gdb) print *((int *)$eax) Error: Cannot access memory at address 0x2427000 (gdb) print *((int *)$eax-4) $1 = 286331153 Fetch info about frames... (gdb) info frame Stack level 0, frame at 0x22fcf8: eip = 0x49143e in fbRasterizeEdges8 (fbedgeimp.h:111); saved eip 0x491d74 called by frame at 0x22fd20 source language c. Arglist at 0x22fcf0, args: buf=0x24261c8, width=280, stride=70, l=0x22fd80, r=0x22fd50, t=2184, b=849782 Locals at 0x22fcf0, Previous frame's sp is 0x22fcf8 Saved registers: ebx at 0x22fcec, ebp at 0x22fcf0, eip at 0x22fcf4 (gdb) info frame Stack level 1, frame at 0x22fd20: eip = 0x491d74 in fbRasterizeEdges (fbedge.c:130); saved eip 0x477838 called by frame at 0x22fdf0, caller of frame at 0x22fcf8 source language c. Arglist at 0x22fd18, args: buf=0x24261c8, bpp=8, width=280, stride=70, l=0x22fd80, r=0x22fd50, t=2184, b=849782 Locals at 0x22fd18, Previous frame's sp is 0x22fd20 Saved registers: ebp at 0x22fd18, eip at 0x22fd1c (gdb) info frame Stack level 2, frame at 0x22fdf0: eip = 0x477838 in fbRasterizeTrapezoid (fbtrap.c:143); saved eip 0x5aae69 called by frame at 0x22fe50, caller of frame at 0x22fd20 source language c. Arglist at 0x22fde8, args: pPicture=0x2380050, trap=0x23bf248, x_off=-1, y_off=0 Locals at 0x22fde8, Previous frame's sp is 0x22fdf0 Saved registers: ebx at 0x22fde4, ebp at 0x22fde8, eip at 0x22fdec (gdb) (gdb) info frame Stack level 3, frame at 0x22fe50: eip = 0x5aae69 in miTrapezoids (mitrap.c:171); saved eip 0x59dcf6 called by frame at 0x22fe90, caller of frame at 0x22fdf0 source language c. Arglist at 0x22fe48, args: op=3 '\003', pSrc=0x24bc0f8, pDst=0x24bb598, maskFormat=0x17c17c8, xSrc=0, ySrc=0, ntrap=1, traps=0x23bf248 Locals at 0x22fe48, Previous frame's sp is 0x22fe50 Saved registers: ebp at 0x22fe48, eip at 0x22fe4c (gdb) info frame Stack level 4, frame at 0x22fe90: eip = 0x59dcf6 in CompositeTrapezoids (picture.c:1729); saved eip 0x5a2c9a called by frame at 0x22fed0, caller of frame at 0x22fe50 source language c. Arglist at 0x22fe88, args: op=3 '\003', pSrc=0x24bc0f8, pDst=0x24bb598, maskFormat=0x17c17c8, xSrc=0, ySrc=0, ntrap=1, traps=0x23bf248 Locals at 0x22fe88, Previous frame's sp is 0x22fe90 Saved registers: ebp at 0x22fe88, eip at 0x22fe8c (gdb) info frame Stack level 5, frame at 0x22fed0: eip = 0x5a2c9a in ProcRenderTrapezoids (render.c:817); saved eip 0x5a5a02 called by frame at 0x22fef0, caller of frame at 0x22fe90 source language c. Arglist at 0x22fec8, args: client=0x184c2a8 Locals at 0x22fec8, Previous frame's sp is 0x22fed0 Saved registers: ebp at 0x22fec8, eip at 0x22fecc -- a bit about the arguments that were used to invoke the fatal fn (gdb) print *l $3 = {x = 0, e = -851968, stepx = 0, signdx = 1, dy = 851968, dx = 0, stepx_small = 0, stepx_big = 0, dx_small = 0, dx_big = 0} (gdb) print *r $4 = {x = 18350080, e = -851968, stepx = 0, signdx = 1, dy = 851968, dx = 0, stepx_small = 0, stepx_big = 0, dx_small = 0, dx_big = 0} (gdb) info frame Stack level 1, frame at 0x22fd20: eip = 0x491d74 in fbRasterizeEdges (fbedge.c:130); saved eip 0x477838 called by frame at 0x22fdf0, caller of frame at 0x22fcf8 source language c. Arglist at 0x22fd18, args: buf=0x24261c8, bpp=8, width=280, stride=70, l=0x22fd80, r=0x22fd50, t=2184, b=849782 Locals at 0x22fd18, Previous frame's sp is 0x22fd20 Saved registers: ebp at 0x22fd18, eip at 0x22fd1c --- more info about the stack frame in the function that caused a segfault (gdb) info frame Stack level 0, frame at 0x22fcf8: eip = 0x49143e in fbRasterizeEdges8 (fbedgeimp.h:111); saved eip 0x491d74 called by frame at 0x22fd20 source language c. Arglist at 0x22fcf0, args: buf=0x24261c8, width=280, stride=70, l=0x22fd80, r=0x22fd50, t=2184, b=849782 Locals at 0x22fcf0, Previous frame's sp is 0x22fcf8 Saved registers: ebx at 0x22fcec, ebp at 0x22fcf0, eip at 0x22fcf4 (gdb) print *r $5 = {x = 18350080, e = -851968, stepx = 0, signdx = 1, dy = 851968, dx = 0, stepx_small = 0, stepx_big = 0, dx_small = 0, dx_big = 0} (gdb) print *l $6 = {x = 0, e = -851968, stepx = 0, signdx = 1, dy = 851968, dx = 0, stepx_small = 0, stepx_big = 0, dx_small = 0, dx_big = 0} -------------- next part -------------- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From 606-0@auswaertiges-amt.de Fri Jul 29 12:18:00 2005 From: 606-0@auswaertiges-amt.de (606-0@auswaertiges-amt.de) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:18:00 -0000 Subject: fatal error occurred. my mozilla installation failed. what to do? Message-ID: <8EE8CCD4A792D3118FCD0E20485A13870EB6EF1D@exch11bln.zentrale.aa> Mit freundlichem Gru? Dr. Alfred Schlicht Vortragender Legationsrat Ausw?rtiges Amt, Ref. 606 Tel. 01888/173247 Fax 01888/1753247 e-mail: 606-0@auswaertiges-amt.de -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Fri Jul 29 13:27:00 2005 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:27:00 -0000 Subject: fatal error occurred. my mozilla installation failed. what to do? In-Reply-To: <8EE8CCD4A792D3118FCD0E20485A13870EB6EF1D@exch11bln.zentrale.aa> References: <8EE8CCD4A792D3118FCD0E20485A13870EB6EF1D@exch11bln.zentrale.aa> Message-ID: First, I just have to cite Heinlein: When in danger, or in doubt -- Run in circles, scream, and shout. Then I'd like to cite the Cygwin problem reporting page at , which has some useful hints on how to report problems properly. For Cygwin/X crashes, it's usually also useful to provide XWin.log. Besides the above, lacking the details of the error, it's quite impossible to help you. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From steamraven@yahoo.com Sat Jul 30 05:16:00 2005 From: steamraven@yahoo.com (Matthew Hawn) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 05:16:00 -0000 Subject: PBuffer status? Message-ID: <20050730051631.25608.qmail@web53801.mail.yahoo.com> What is the status of PBuffer support for Win_GL? Matt Hawn steamraven@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ From denk@fmi.uni-passau.de Sun Jul 31 16:44:00 2005 From: denk@fmi.uni-passau.de (Michael Denk) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 16:44:00 -0000 Subject: Translucency Support? In-Reply-To: <20050728170555.68288.qmail@web53309.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050728170555.68288.qmail@web53309.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 28 Jul 2005, Ron Geis wrote: > Has anyone been able to get transparent terminal windows working under > Cygwin? I've been spending lots of time trying to figure out how to do > so, or even if it's possible. I'm running Cygwin on Windows XP, and > using MRXVT terminal. I just downloaded and compiled the recent version (0.4.1) from the Mrxvt Homepage (http://materm.sourceforge.net/) and it worked quite fine with transparency. The only quirk is, you have to turn it on as its off by default. The source package contains documentation and samples on how to accomplish this and other "useful" features. To just turn transparency on, add the following line to your $HOME/.Xdefaults --- mrxvt*transparent: true --- > I've read that I need to add entries to my xorg.conf file and compile > xcompmgr and transset. Where did you read this? > I have not been able to compile xcompmgr. Is that program even > necessary? Apparently not. Bye, Michael -- Michael Denk Fakult?t f?r Mathematik und Informatik Tel. +49 (0851) 509-3136 Universit?t Passau, Raum K08 IM (Aquarium) denk at fmi.uni-passau.de http://www.fmi.uni-passau.de/~denk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/