From cgf@redhat.com  Sat Feb  1 01:48:00 2003
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 01:48:00 -0000
Subject: fatal IO error 104:
In-Reply-To: <3E3B289A.4070804@wubios.wustl.edu>
References: <3E3B289A.4070804@wubios.wustl.edu>
Message-ID: <20030201014832.GF3759@redhat.com>

On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 07:53:30PM -0600, Aldi Kraja wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I Open x windows: three open by default. I connect with one of them 
>through ssh to a server. After some work I exit from each window with 
>"exit". Cygwin at the end it reports a problem:
>The problem:
>XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
>waiting for X server to shut down X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit 
>kill or
>server shutdown).
>
>What does it mean this error and how to eliminate it?
>TIA,
>Aldi

Hard to say.  Why not ask the experts in the correct mailing list?

I've redirected this email there.

cgf


From sewall@umit.maine.edu  Sat Feb  1 02:55:00 2003
From: sewall@umit.maine.edu (Jason Sewall)
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 02:55:00 -0000
Subject: ./configure trouble with X
Message-ID: <20030129215449.000005dd.sewall@umit.maine.edu>

In everything I've tried to install that needs X - like gnuplot and TeXmacs, I can't get past a problem with ./configure. Every time I run the script, I get this error after some regular-looking output:

checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for string.h... yes
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for working const... yes
checking for inline... inline
checking for preprocessor stringizing operator... yes
checking if compiler handles warn and error directives correctly... yes
checking for X... eval: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected

I've tried hacking open the scripts and so forth, to no avail. I looks like an interpreter problem, but hell if I know what it means. X works fine under my cygwin install, but I can't compile anything for it!

I have the x headers installed and so on...

Any help would be appreciated!

Jason


From info@fabiorossetti.com  Sat Feb  1 13:39:00 2003
From: info@fabiorossetti.com (Fabio Rossetti)
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 13:39:00 -0000
Subject: Kylix 3 OE / Xfree86 error
Message-ID: <NCBBJNKBMJADJCEDEJOEKEMBIHAA.info@fabiorossetti.com>

I'm testing Kylix 3 OE running on a Redhat 8 box, using a remote XFree86 via
XDM on my W2K machine (kinda awkward on paper but practical in my
situation). It's the latest XFree86 in the cygwin distribution.
Gnome/KDE runs apparently very fine, Kylix IDE starts, but as soon as I get
to
the code window there comes a requester with a 'Division by Zero Error'. On
the local linux X-Server there is no error. Using the commercial X-Win32
also via XDM does NOT give the error (but the graphical rendering is
poorer).
I have tried all the window managers I had on hand, same error, I've tried
switching xdm with gdm etc, same error. The only way to circumvent the error
is to start XFree86 locally with one of its local windows managers, login
via ssh on the RH box and start Kylix redirecting it to the remote Xfree via
the DISPLAY environment variable.
Any hint or possible workaround ? The rest of graphical applications I have
tried seem to run
fine.



From Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com  Sat Feb  1 20:14:00 2003
From: Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com (Cary Jamison)
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 20:14:00 -0000
Subject: xterm Page-Up -- does it work?
Message-ID: <DBB106D1C9FDAC408B360E2D0A5673823EABEF@pqorex02.powerquest.pq>

"f" <fredma@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:<3E3A149F.8090501@sympatico.ca>...
> > From: "Cary Jamison" <Cary dot Jamison at powerquest dot com>
> > Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:38:19 -0700
> > Subject: Re: xterm Page-Up -- does it work?
> >
> > Is your num-lock on?
> 
> 
> No.  And also, page up seems to work on xterms
> running on remote sun boxes.  I access the remote
> twm desktop from the same laptop, using VNC.
> Same PageUp keys.  Exact same Xresources
> and .twmrc .  Go figure.
> 
> Fred
> 
> P.S.  I gather that it works for you?


Yes, though I hit shift-pgup.  Works the same in a regular xterm or a
remote gnome-terminal, etc.

Cary


From fma@doe.carleton.ca  Sat Feb  1 22:31:00 2003
From: fma@doe.carleton.ca (Shing-Fat Fred Ma)
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 22:31:00 -0000
Subject: xterm Page-Up -- does it work?
References: <1044130482.14693.ezmlm@cygwin.com>
Message-ID: <3E3C4AC9.C6EA3F8A@doe.carleton.ca>

> > No.  And also, page up seems to work on xterms
> > running on remote sun boxes.  I access the remote
> > twm desktop from the same laptop, using VNC.
> > Same PageUp keys.  Exact same Xresources
> > and .twmrc .  Go figure.
> >
> > Fred
> >
> > P.S.  I gather that it works for you?
>
> Yes, though I hit shift-pgup.  Works the same in a regular xterm or a
> remote gnome-terminal, etc.
>
> Cary

Actually......Shift-PageUp works for me too!  That's
different from twm on the sun boxes (solaris 8).
Thanks alot!

Fred

--
Fred Ma, fma@doe.carleton.ca
Carleton University, Dept. of Electronics
1125 Colonel By Drive, Ottawa, Ontario
Canada, K1S 5B6




From fma@doe.carleton.ca  Sun Feb  2 04:26:00 2003
From: fma@doe.carleton.ca (fred)
Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 04:26:00 -0000
Subject: What do people use Xfree86 for?
Message-ID: <3E3C9D79.6060207@doe.carleton.ca>

Hello,

I just ran Xfree86.  Very, very nice.
Just like sitting on the sun boxes
at school.  All the twm setup files
and Xresources work the same.  It was
so alike (and tons faster) that I got
carried away and starting to invoke
apps like I do from school.  That's
where the similarity ended.  All the
apps fired up outside of Xwindows.
That's OK, my relationship with windows
is one of like-hate.  It has some pretty
handy features, but I tear my head off
about some things.

But, given that cygwin's X runs within
Windows, and any apps you invoke fire
up in MS windows (that's the way it
should be because the apps were written
to use the MS windows features), what
do people actually use X for?  I've
found that despite the mighty coolness,
all I do is open up an xterm and start
an ssh tunnel to school, with port
forwarding.  Then I do everything else
from MS windows.  With the virtual
scrolling of the touchpad, and the
rather effortless cut-and-paste, I
don't mind it at all.  But it sort of
makes me wonder....why?

Fred

P.S.  This is not a knock down of X
on cygwin, I think it's really cool.
It's astounding that it was even
possible.  I'm wondering if I'm not
making as much use of it as I could.


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Feb  2 05:01:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 05:01:00 -0000
Subject: What do people use Xfree86 for?
In-Reply-To: <3E3C9D79.6060207@doe.carleton.ca>
References: <3E3C9D79.6060207@doe.carleton.ca>
Message-ID: <3E3CA6BE.2020801@msu.edu>

Fred,

I actually use Cygwin/XFree86 to run xfig on my laptop while I am doing 
my math and computer science homework at the library.  That is the most 
useful local app that I use.  Other than that I tend to open XDMCP 
sessions to my linux boxen so that I can login and use KDE.  That's 
about it.

Harold

fred wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I just ran Xfree86.  Very, very nice.
> Just like sitting on the sun boxes
> at school.  All the twm setup files
> and Xresources work the same.  It was
> so alike (and tons faster) that I got
> carried away and starting to invoke
> apps like I do from school.  That's
> where the similarity ended.  All the
> apps fired up outside of Xwindows.
> That's OK, my relationship with windows
> is one of like-hate.  It has some pretty
> handy features, but I tear my head off
> about some things.
> 
> But, given that cygwin's X runs within
> Windows, and any apps you invoke fire
> up in MS windows (that's the way it
> should be because the apps were written
> to use the MS windows features), what
> do people actually use X for?  I've
> found that despite the mighty coolness,
> all I do is open up an xterm and start
> an ssh tunnel to school, with port
> forwarding.  Then I do everything else
> from MS windows.  With the virtual
> scrolling of the touchpad, and the
> rather effortless cut-and-paste, I
> don't mind it at all.  But it sort of
> makes me wonder....why?
> 
> Fred
> 
> P.S.  This is not a knock down of X
> on cygwin, I think it's really cool.
> It's astounding that it was even
> possible.  I'm wondering if I'm not
> making as much use of it as I could.
> 


From j-ttompkins@hotmail.com  Sun Feb  2 05:10:00 2003
From: j-ttompkins@hotmail.com (j-ttompkins@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 05:10:00 -0000
Subject: What do people use Xfree86 for?
Message-ID: <mailman.4.1583650294.51897.cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com>

BULLSHIT!!!! 

NOT A GOOD EXPLAINATION!!!!

USE FOR REMTELY CONNECTING TO A UNIX BOX N USE REMOTE APPLICATIONS.....
YA CAN DOWNLOAD FREE XSERVER FROM
http://www.thecyborg.com/howto/xserver.html



>Fred,

>I actually use Cygwin/XFree86 to run xfig on my laptop while I am doing 
>my math and computer science homework at the library.  That is the most 
>useful local app that I use.  Other than that I tend to open XDMCP 
>sessions to my linux boxen so that I can login and use KDE.  That's 
>about it.

>Harold

>fred wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I just ran Xfree86.  Very, very nice.
> Just like sitting on the sun boxes
> at school.  All the twm setup files
> and Xresources work the same.  It was
> so alike (and tons faster) that I got
> carried away and starting to invoke
> apps like I do from school.  That's
> where the similarity ended.  All the
> apps fired up outside of Xwindows.
> That's OK, my relationship with windows
> is one of like-hate.  It has some pretty
> handy features, but I tear my head off
> about some things.
> 
> But, given that cygwin's X runs within
> Windows, and any apps you invoke fire
> up in MS windows (that's the way it
> should be because the apps were written
> to use the MS windows features), what
> do people actually use X for?  I've
> found that despite the mighty coolness,
> all I do is open up an xterm and start
> an ssh tunnel to school, with port
> forwarding.  Then I do everything else
> from MS windows.  With the virtual
> scrolling of the touchpad, and the
> rather effortless cut-and-paste, I
> don't mind it at all.  But it sort of
> makes me wonder....why?
> 
> Fred
> 
> P.S.  This is not a knock down of X
> on cygwin, I think it's really cool.
> It's astounding that it was even
> possible.  I'm wondering if I'm not
> making as much use of it as I could.
> 




From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Feb  2 05:24:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 05:24:00 -0000
Subject: What do people use Xfree86 for? [cgf]
In-Reply-To: <E18fCOp-000BZ3-00@sys03.mail.msu.edu>
References: <E18fCOp-000BZ3-00@sys03.mail.msu.edu>
Message-ID: <3E3CAC04.50906@msu.edu>

Chris,

You wanna ban this troll?

Harold

j-ttompkins@hotmail.com wrote:
> BULLSHIT!!!! 
> 
> NOT A GOOD EXPLAINATION!!!!
> 
> USE FOR REMTELY CONNECTING TO A UNIX BOX N USE REMOTE APPLICATIONS.....
> YA CAN DOWNLOAD FREE XSERVER FROM
> http://www.thecyborg.com/howto/xserver.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>Fred,
> 
> 
>>I actually use Cygwin/XFree86 to run xfig on my laptop while I am doing 
>>my math and computer science homework at the library.  That is the most 
>>useful local app that I use.  Other than that I tend to open XDMCP 
>>sessions to my linux boxen so that I can login and use KDE.  That's 
>>about it.
> 
> 
>>Harold
> 
> 
>>fred wrote:
>>Hello,
>>
>>I just ran Xfree86.  Very, very nice.
>>Just like sitting on the sun boxes
>>at school.  All the twm setup files
>>and Xresources work the same.  It was
>>so alike (and tons faster) that I got
>>carried away and starting to invoke
>>apps like I do from school.  That's
>>where the similarity ended.  All the
>>apps fired up outside of Xwindows.
>>That's OK, my relationship with windows
>>is one of like-hate.  It has some pretty
>>handy features, but I tear my head off
>>about some things.
>>
>>But, given that cygwin's X runs within
>>Windows, and any apps you invoke fire
>>up in MS windows (that's the way it
>>should be because the apps were written
>>to use the MS windows features), what
>>do people actually use X for?  I've
>>found that despite the mighty coolness,
>>all I do is open up an xterm and start
>>an ssh tunnel to school, with port
>>forwarding.  Then I do everything else
>>from MS windows.  With the virtual
>>scrolling of the touchpad, and the
>>rather effortless cut-and-paste, I
>>don't mind it at all.  But it sort of
>>makes me wonder....why?
>>
>>Fred
>>
>>P.S.  This is not a knock down of X
>>on cygwin, I think it's really cool.
>>It's astounding that it was even
>>possible.  I'm wondering if I'm not
>>making as much use of it as I could.
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Feb  2 05:41:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (huntharo@msu.edu)
Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 05:41:00 -0000
Subject: What do people use Xfree86 for? [cgf]
Message-ID: <mailman.5.1583650294.51897.cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com>


BULLSHIT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FUCKIN TROLL KIDZ CANT TAKE A COMMENT....... LOL









-----Original Message-----
From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]
On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 9:26 PM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: What do people use Xfree86 for? [cgf]

Chris,

You wanna ban this troll?

Harold

j-ttompkins@hotmail.com wrote:
> BULLSHIT!!!! 
> 
> NOT A GOOD EXPLAINATION!!!!
> 
> USE FOR REMTELY CONNECTING TO A UNIX BOX N USE REMOTE APPLICATIONS.....
> YA CAN DOWNLOAD FREE XSERVER FROM
> http://www.thecyborg.com/howto/xserver.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>Fred,
> 
> 
>>I actually use Cygwin/XFree86 to run xfig on my laptop while I am doing 
>>my math and computer science homework at the library.  That is the most 
>>useful local app that I use.  Other than that I tend to open XDMCP 
>>sessions to my linux boxen so that I can login and use KDE.  That's 
>>about it.
> 
> 
>>Harold
> 
> 
>>fred wrote:
>>Hello,
>>
>>I just ran Xfree86.  Very, very nice.
>>Just like sitting on the sun boxes
>>at school.  All the twm setup files
>>and Xresources work the same.  It was
>>so alike (and tons faster) that I got
>>carried away and starting to invoke
>>apps like I do from school.  That's
>>where the similarity ended.  All the
>>apps fired up outside of Xwindows.
>>That's OK, my relationship with windows
>>is one of like-hate.  It has some pretty
>>handy features, but I tear my head off
>>about some things.
>>
>>But, given that cygwin's X runs within
>>Windows, and any apps you invoke fire
>>up in MS windows (that's the way it
>>should be because the apps were written
>>to use the MS windows features), what
>>do people actually use X for?  I've
>>found that despite the mighty coolness,
>>all I do is open up an xterm and start
>>an ssh tunnel to school, with port
>>forwarding.  Then I do everything else
>>from MS windows.  With the virtual
>>scrolling of the touchpad, and the
>>rather effortless cut-and-paste, I
>>don't mind it at all.  But it sort of
>>makes me wonder....why?
>>
>>Fred
>>
>>P.S.  This is not a knock down of X
>>on cygwin, I think it's really cool.
>>It's astounding that it was even
>>possible.  I'm wondering if I'm not
>>making as much use of it as I could.
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 



From cgf@redhat.com  Sun Feb  2 06:01:00 2003
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 06:01:00 -0000
Subject: What do people use xfree86 for? [cgf]
In-Reply-To: <3E3CAC04.50906@msu.edu>
References: <E18fCOp-000BZ3-00@sys03.mail.msu.edu> <3E3CAC04.50906@msu.edu>
Message-ID: <20030202060151.GA27823@redhat.com>

On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 12:26:28AM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
>You wanna ban this troll?

Done.

FWIW, the pathetic little idiot tried three times to send his
inarticulate response before he hit on the clever plan of masquerading
as you.  I'll be sending a complaint to his ISP about this.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Feb  2 06:47:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 06:47:00 -0000
Subject: What do people use xfree86 for? [cgf]
In-Reply-To: <20030202060151.GA27823@redhat.com>
References: <E18fCOp-000BZ3-00@sys03.mail.msu.edu> <3E3CAC04.50906@msu.edu> <20030202060151.GA27823@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3E3CBF8C.3070301@msu.edu>

Chris,

Thanks.  I just don't understand some people.

Harold

Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 12:26:28AM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
> 
>>You wanna ban this troll?
> 
> 
> Done.
> 
> FWIW, the pathetic little idiot tried three times to send his
> inarticulate response before he hit on the clever plan of masquerading
> as you.  I'll be sending a complaint to his ISP about this.
> 
> cgf


From vervoom@hotmail.com  Sun Feb  2 11:31:00 2003
From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S)
Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 11:31:00 -0000
Subject: convert exceed keymaps to xfree
Message-ID: <F69svHuSOO1ZobKry8w00018c29@hotmail.com>

Hi,

I would like to set up the key mappings for a VMS user on XFree86. He 
currently uses Exceed. Unfortunately I can't get his F4 key to work which is 
supposed to EXIT a panel on the application he is using. He sent me his 
Exceed key map (see below) but I can't really figure out what changes I need 
to make to the XFree mappings to make them the same as those in Exceed. Does 
anyone here know? If you could explain the logic to me I might have a go at 
writing a c program to convert Exceed keys maps to XFree!

On XFree86:

KeyRelease event, serial 16, synthetic NO, window 0x400001,
    root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 4927190, (167,-11), root:(173,14),
    state 0x10, keycode 70 (keysym 0xffc1, F4), same_screen YES,
    XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""

xmodmap.uk:  keycode  70 = F4 F14
keysymdef.h: #define XK_F4                       0xFFC1


Exceed:

keymap.kbf:
115   XK_F19                         XK_F4
3E=R FFD0@F19 FFC1@F4 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol





ows
# the Forms Menu to be displayed.
# N.B.  Information on the LEFT is for the HOST whilst Information on the 
RIGHT is for the CLIENT (PC)
# The next time this file is likely to be changed is when FORMS 4.0 goes 
live !!

# U.K. 102 English Keyboard

#   The Right Alt key has been assigned as a ModeSwitch.  Use this key
#   to access the third glyphs found on certain keys

#   if you DO NOT wish to use NumLock locally, place a comment indicator (#) 
in
#   front of the next statement.

Symbol NumLockIsLocal	1

#   if the BackSpace key does not work but <Shift>+BackSpace does, remove
#   the comment indicator (#) from the next statement.

#Symbol  BSunshifted	1

Symbol Pause 126

Include Info keysyms.sym

LATCH   ScrollLock CapsLock NumLock

VALIDMOD CapsLock Lshift Rshift Lctrl Rctrl Lalt Ralt NumLock

MOD LOCK    CapsLock
MOD SHIFT   Lshift Rshift
MOD CONTROL Lctrl Rctrl
MOD MOD1    Lalt Ralt
MOD MOD3    Ralt

ifdef NumLockIsLocal

compose NumLock+91   XK_KP_7  XK_Home
compose NumLock+92   XK_KP_4  XK_Left
compose NumLock+93   XK_KP_1  XK_End
compose NumLock+96   XK_KP_8  XK_Up
compose NumLock+97   XK_KP_5  XK_KP_Space
compose NumLock+98   XK_KP_2  XK_Down
compose NumLock+99   XK_KP_0  XK_Insert
compose NumLock+101  XK_KP_9  XK_Prior
compose NumLock+102  XK_KP_6  XK_Right
compose NumLock+103  XK_KP_3  XK_Next
compose NumLock+104  XK_KP_Decimal  XK_Delete

else    # NumLockIsLocal

MOD MOD2    NumLock

endif   # NumLockIsLocal

#   note that modifiers are automatically 'repeat' disabled

REPEAT   * -ScrollLock -Pause

1     XK_grave                       XK_notsign                    \
XK_bar
2     XK_1                           XK_exclam
3     XK_2                           XK_quotedbl                   \
XK_at
4     XK_3                           XK_sterling                   \
XK_numbersign
5     XK_4                           XK_dollar
6     XK_5                           XK_percent
7     XK_6                           XK_asciicircum
8     XK_7                           XK_ampersand
9     XK_8                           XK_asterisk
10    XK_9                           XK_parenleft
11    XK_0                           XK_parenright
12    XK_minus                       XK_underscore
13    XK_equal                       XK_plus
# ifndef BSunshifted
# 15    XK_Delete                      XK_BackSpace
# else
15    XK_Delete     XK_Delete
# endif
16    XK_Tab                         XK_KP_Tab
17    XK_q                           XK_Q
18    XK_w                           XK_W
19    XK_e                           XK_E
20    XK_r                           XK_R
21    XK_t                           XK_T
22    XK_y                           XK_Y
23    XK_u                           XK_U
24    XK_i                           XK_I
25    XK_o                           XK_O
26    XK_p                           XK_P
27    XK_bracketleft                 XK_braceleft
28    XK_bracketright                XK_braceright
30    XK_Caps_Lock                   XK_Caps_Lock
31    XK_a                           XK_A
32    XK_s                           XK_S
33    XK_d                           XK_D
34    XK_f                           XK_F
35    XK_g                           XK_G
36    XK_h                           XK_H
37    XK_j                           XK_J
38    XK_k                           XK_K
39    XK_l                           XK_L
40    XK_semicolon                   XK_colon
41    XK_apostrophe                  XK_at
42    XK_numbersign                  XK_asciitilde
43    XK_Return                      XK_Return
44    XK_Shift_L                     XK_Shift_L
45    XK_backslash                   XK_bar
46    XK_z                           XK_Z
47    XK_x                           XK_X
48    XK_c                           XK_C
49    XK_v                           XK_V
50    XK_b                           XK_B
51    XK_n                           XK_N
52    XK_m                           XK_M
53    XK_comma                       XK_less
54    XK_period                      XK_greater
55    XK_slash                       XK_question
57    XK_Shift_R                     XK_Shift_R
58    XK_Control_L                   XK_Control_L
60    XK_Alt_L                       XK_Alt_L
61    XK_space                       XK_space

62    Modeswitch
64    XK_Control_R                   XK_Control_R

75    XK_Insert                      XK_Insert
76    XK_Delete                      XK_Delete
79    XK_Left                        XK_Left
80    XK_Home                        XK_Home
81    XK_End                         XK_End
83    XK_Up                          XK_Up
84    XK_Down                        XK_Down
85    XK_Prior                       XK_Prior
86    XK_Next                        XK_Next
89    XK_Right                       XK_Right
ifndef NumLockIsLocal
90    XK_KP_F1                    XK_Num_Lock
endif  # NumLockIsLocal
91    XK_F14                        XK_KP_7
92    XK_Left                        XK_KP_4
93    XK_KP_1                XK_End
95    XK_KP_Divide                   XK_KP_Divide
96    XK_Up                          XK_KP_8
97    XK_KP_Space                    XK_KP_5
98    XK_KP_2                        XK_Down
99    XK_Insert                      XK_KP_0
100   XK_KP_Multiply		     XK_KP_Multiply
101   XK_Prior                       XK_KP_9
102   XK_Right                       XK_KP_6
103   XK_Next                        XK_KP_3
104   XK_Delete                      XK_KP_Decimal
105   XK_KP_F4                 XK_KP_Subtract
106   XK_KP_Separator                      XK_KP_Add
108   XK_KP_Enter                    XK_KP_Enter
110   XK_Escape                      XK_Escape
112   XK_F15                          XK_F1
113   XK_F17                         XK_F2
114   XK_F18                         XK_F3
115   XK_F19                         XK_F4
116   XK_F20                         XK_F5
117   XK_F16                         XK_F6
118   XK_F7                          XK_F7
119   XK_F8                          XK_F8
120   XK_F9                          XK_F9
121   XK_F10                         XK_F10
122   XK_F11                         XK_F11
123   XK_F12                         XK_F12
124   XK_Print                       XK_Print
125   XK_Scroll_Lock                 XK_Scroll_Lock
126   XK_Pause                       XK_Pause

[main]
KeyboardLayout=102key.kbt
name=UK102
desc=U.K. 102 English Keyboard
maxcolumns=3
localnumlock=1
UnlatchedNumLock=0
UnlatchedScrollLock=0
UnlatchedCapsLock=0

[keys]
1=R FF1B@Escape 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
3B=R FFCC@F15 FFB1@KP_1 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
3C=R FFCE@F17 FFBF@F2 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
3D=R FFCF@F18 FFC0@F3 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
3E=R FFD0@F19 FFC1@F4 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
3F=R FFD1@F20 FFC2@F5 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
40=R FFCD@F16 FFC3@F6 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
41=R FFC4@F7 FFB2@KP_2 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
42=R FFC5@F8 FFB5@KP_5 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
43=R FFC6@F9 FFB6@KP_6 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
44=R FFC7@F10 FFB7@KP_7 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
57=R FFC8@F11 FFB8@KP_8 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
58=R FFC9@F12 FFB9@KP_9 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
46=N FF14@Scroll_Lock FF92@KP_F2 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
29=R 60@grave AC@notsign 7C@bar 0@NoSymbol
2=R 31@1 21@exclam 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
3=R 32@2 22@quotedbl 40@at 0@NoSymbol
4=R 33@3 A3@sterling 23@numbersign 0@NoSymbol
5=R 34@4 24@dollar 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
6=R 35@5 25@percent 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
7=R 36@6 5E@asciicircum 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
8=R 37@7 26@ampersand 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
9=R 38@8 2A@asterisk 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
A=R 39@9 28@parenleft 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
B=R 30@0 29@parenright 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
C=R 2D@minus 5F@underscore 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
D=R 3D@equal 2B@plus 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
E=R FFFF@Delete FF08@BackSpace 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
F=R FF09@Tab FF89@KP_Tab 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
10=R 51@Q 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
11=R 57@W 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
12=R 45@E 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
13=R 52@R 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
14=R 54@T 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
15=R 59@Y 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
16=R 55@U 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
17=R 49@I 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
19=R 50@P 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
1A=R 5B@bracketleft 7B@braceleft 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
1B=R 5D@bracketright 7D@braceright 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
3A=L FFE5@Caps_Lock 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
1E=R 41@A 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
1F=R 53@S 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
20=R 44@D 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
21=R 46@F 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
22=R 47@G 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
23=R 48@H 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
24=R 4A@J 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
25=R 4B@K 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
26=R 4C@L 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
27=R 3B@semicolon 3A@colon 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
28=R 27@apostrophe 40@at 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
2B=R 23@numbersign 7E@asciitilde 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
1C=R FF0D@Return 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
2A=S FFE1@Shift_L 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
56=R 5C@backslash 7C@bar 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
2C=R 5A@Z 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
2D=R 58@X 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
2E=R 43@C 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
2F=R 56@V 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
30=R 42@B 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
31=R 4E@N 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
32=R 4D@M 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
33=R 2C@comma 3C@less 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
34=R 2E@period 3E@greater 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
35=R 2F@slash 3F@question 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
36=S FFE2@Shift_R 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
1D=C FFE3@Control_L 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
38=1 FFE9@Alt_L FFE7@Meta_L 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
138=13 FF7E@ModeSwitch 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
39=R 20@space 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
11D=C FFE4@Control_R 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
152=R FF63@Insert 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
147=R FF68@Find FF50@Home 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
149=R FF55@Prior 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
153=R 1000FF00@DRemove 1000FF00@DRemove 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
14F=R FF60@Select FF57@End 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
151=R FF56@Next 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
148=R FF52@Up 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
14B=R FF51@Left 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
150=R FF54@Down 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
14D=R FF53@Right 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
145=R FF7F@Num_Lock 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
135=R FFAF@KP_Divide 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
37=R FFAA@KP_Multiply 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
4A=R FF94@KP_F4 FFAD@KP_Subtract 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
47=R FFCB@F14 FFB7@KP_7 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
48=R FF52@Up FFB8@KP_8 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
49=R FF55@Prior FFB9@KP_9 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
4B=R FF51@Left FFB4@KP_4 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
4C=R FF80@KP_Space FFB5@KP_5 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
4D=R FF53@Right FFB6@KP_6 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
4F=R FFB1@KP_1 FF57@End 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
50=R FFB2@KP_2 FF54@Down 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
51=R FF56@Next FFB3@KP_3 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
52=R FF63@Insert FFB0@KP_0 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
53=R FFFF@Delete FFAE@KP_Decimal 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
4E=R FFAC@KP_Separator FFAB@KP_Add 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
11C=R FF8D@KP_Enter 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
18=R 4F@O 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
45=N FF67@Menu FF91@KP_F1 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol



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From vervoom@hotmail.com  Sun Feb  2 12:26:00 2003
From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S)
Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 12:26:00 -0000
Subject: convert exceed keymaps to xfree
Message-ID: <F13rdUWhn65DWG6tACf00018cb8@hotmail.com>

I may have been a bit naieve. Is the exceed file below saying that I need to 
map F4 to keycode 115?

Thanks,

JS.

>
>Hi,
>
>I would like to set up the key mappings for a VMS user on XFree86. He 
>currently uses Exceed. Unfortunately I can't get his F4 key to work which 
>is supposed to EXIT a panel on the application he is using. He sent me his 
>Exceed key map (see below) but I can't really figure out what changes I 
>need to make to the XFree mappings to make them the same as those in 
>Exceed. Does anyone here know? If you could explain the logic to me I might 
>have a go at writing a c program to convert Exceed keys maps to XFree!
>
>On XFree86:
>
>KeyRelease event, serial 16, synthetic NO, window 0x400001,
>    root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 4927190, (167,-11), root:(173,14),
>    state 0x10, keycode 70 (keysym 0xffc1, F4), same_screen YES,
>    XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""
>
>xmodmap.uk:  keycode  70 = F4 F14
>keysymdef.h: #define XK_F4                       0xFFC1
>
>
>Exceed:
>
>keymap.kbf:
>115   XK_F19                         XK_F4
>3E=R FFD0@F19 FFC1@F4 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>
>
>
>
>
>ows
># the Forms Menu to be displayed.
># N.B.  Information on the LEFT is for the HOST whilst Information on the 
>RIGHT is for the CLIENT (PC)
># The next time this file is likely to be changed is when FORMS 4.0 goes 
>live !!
>
># U.K. 102 English Keyboard
>
>#   The Right Alt key has been assigned as a ModeSwitch.  Use this key
>#   to access the third glyphs found on certain keys
>
>#   if you DO NOT wish to use NumLock locally, place a comment indicator 
>(#) in
>#   front of the next statement.
>
>Symbol NumLockIsLocal	1
>
>#   if the BackSpace key does not work but <Shift>+BackSpace does, remove
>#   the comment indicator (#) from the next statement.
>
>#Symbol  BSunshifted	1
>
>Symbol Pause 126
>
>Include Info keysyms.sym
>
>LATCH   ScrollLock CapsLock NumLock
>
>VALIDMOD CapsLock Lshift Rshift Lctrl Rctrl Lalt Ralt NumLock
>
>MOD LOCK    CapsLock
>MOD SHIFT   Lshift Rshift
>MOD CONTROL Lctrl Rctrl
>MOD MOD1    Lalt Ralt
>MOD MOD3    Ralt
>
>ifdef NumLockIsLocal
>
>compose NumLock+91   XK_KP_7  XK_Home
>compose NumLock+92   XK_KP_4  XK_Left
>compose NumLock+93   XK_KP_1  XK_End
>compose NumLock+96   XK_KP_8  XK_Up
>compose NumLock+97   XK_KP_5  XK_KP_Space
>compose NumLock+98   XK_KP_2  XK_Down
>compose NumLock+99   XK_KP_0  XK_Insert
>compose NumLock+101  XK_KP_9  XK_Prior
>compose NumLock+102  XK_KP_6  XK_Right
>compose NumLock+103  XK_KP_3  XK_Next
>compose NumLock+104  XK_KP_Decimal  XK_Delete
>
>else    # NumLockIsLocal
>
>MOD MOD2    NumLock
>
>endif   # NumLockIsLocal
>
>#   note that modifiers are automatically 'repeat' disabled
>
>REPEAT   * -ScrollLock -Pause
>
>1     XK_grave                       XK_notsign                    \
>XK_bar
>2     XK_1                           XK_exclam
>3     XK_2                           XK_quotedbl                   \
>XK_at
>4     XK_3                           XK_sterling                   \
>XK_numbersign
>5     XK_4                           XK_dollar
>6     XK_5                           XK_percent
>7     XK_6                           XK_asciicircum
>8     XK_7                           XK_ampersand
>9     XK_8                           XK_asterisk
>10    XK_9                           XK_parenleft
>11    XK_0                           XK_parenright
>12    XK_minus                       XK_underscore
>13    XK_equal                       XK_plus
># ifndef BSunshifted
># 15    XK_Delete                      XK_BackSpace
># else
>15    XK_Delete     XK_Delete
># endif
>16    XK_Tab                         XK_KP_Tab
>17    XK_q                           XK_Q
>18    XK_w                           XK_W
>19    XK_e                           XK_E
>20    XK_r                           XK_R
>21    XK_t                           XK_T
>22    XK_y                           XK_Y
>23    XK_u                           XK_U
>24    XK_i                           XK_I
>25    XK_o                           XK_O
>26    XK_p                           XK_P
>27    XK_bracketleft                 XK_braceleft
>28    XK_bracketright                XK_braceright
>30    XK_Caps_Lock                   XK_Caps_Lock
>31    XK_a                           XK_A
>32    XK_s                           XK_S
>33    XK_d                           XK_D
>34    XK_f                           XK_F
>35    XK_g                           XK_G
>36    XK_h                           XK_H
>37    XK_j                           XK_J
>38    XK_k                           XK_K
>39    XK_l                           XK_L
>40    XK_semicolon                   XK_colon
>41    XK_apostrophe                  XK_at
>42    XK_numbersign                  XK_asciitilde
>43    XK_Return                      XK_Return
>44    XK_Shift_L                     XK_Shift_L
>45    XK_backslash                   XK_bar
>46    XK_z                           XK_Z
>47    XK_x                           XK_X
>48    XK_c                           XK_C
>49    XK_v                           XK_V
>50    XK_b                           XK_B
>51    XK_n                           XK_N
>52    XK_m                           XK_M
>53    XK_comma                       XK_less
>54    XK_period                      XK_greater
>55    XK_slash                       XK_question
>57    XK_Shift_R                     XK_Shift_R
>58    XK_Control_L                   XK_Control_L
>60    XK_Alt_L                       XK_Alt_L
>61    XK_space                       XK_space
>
>62    Modeswitch
>64    XK_Control_R                   XK_Control_R
>
>75    XK_Insert                      XK_Insert
>76    XK_Delete                      XK_Delete
>79    XK_Left                        XK_Left
>80    XK_Home                        XK_Home
>81    XK_End                         XK_End
>83    XK_Up                          XK_Up
>84    XK_Down                        XK_Down
>85    XK_Prior                       XK_Prior
>86    XK_Next                        XK_Next
>89    XK_Right                       XK_Right
>ifndef NumLockIsLocal
>90    XK_KP_F1                    XK_Num_Lock
>endif  # NumLockIsLocal
>91    XK_F14                        XK_KP_7
>92    XK_Left                        XK_KP_4
>93    XK_KP_1                XK_End
>95    XK_KP_Divide                   XK_KP_Divide
>96    XK_Up                          XK_KP_8
>97    XK_KP_Space                    XK_KP_5
>98    XK_KP_2                        XK_Down
>99    XK_Insert                      XK_KP_0
>100   XK_KP_Multiply		     XK_KP_Multiply
>101   XK_Prior                       XK_KP_9
>102   XK_Right                       XK_KP_6
>103   XK_Next                        XK_KP_3
>104   XK_Delete                      XK_KP_Decimal
>105   XK_KP_F4                 XK_KP_Subtract
>106   XK_KP_Separator                      XK_KP_Add
>108   XK_KP_Enter                    XK_KP_Enter
>110   XK_Escape                      XK_Escape
>112   XK_F15                          XK_F1
>113   XK_F17                         XK_F2
>114   XK_F18                         XK_F3
>115   XK_F19                         XK_F4
>116   XK_F20                         XK_F5
>117   XK_F16                         XK_F6
>118   XK_F7                          XK_F7
>119   XK_F8                          XK_F8
>120   XK_F9                          XK_F9
>121   XK_F10                         XK_F10
>122   XK_F11                         XK_F11
>123   XK_F12                         XK_F12
>124   XK_Print                       XK_Print
>125   XK_Scroll_Lock                 XK_Scroll_Lock
>126   XK_Pause                       XK_Pause
>
>[main]
>KeyboardLayout=102key.kbt
>name=UK102
>desc=U.K. 102 English Keyboard
>maxcolumns=3
>localnumlock=1
>UnlatchedNumLock=0
>UnlatchedScrollLock=0
>UnlatchedCapsLock=0
>
>[keys]
>1=R FF1B@Escape 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>3B=R FFCC@F15 FFB1@KP_1 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>3C=R FFCE@F17 FFBF@F2 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>3D=R FFCF@F18 FFC0@F3 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>3E=R FFD0@F19 FFC1@F4 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>3F=R FFD1@F20 FFC2@F5 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>40=R FFCD@F16 FFC3@F6 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>41=R FFC4@F7 FFB2@KP_2 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>42=R FFC5@F8 FFB5@KP_5 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>43=R FFC6@F9 FFB6@KP_6 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>44=R FFC7@F10 FFB7@KP_7 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>57=R FFC8@F11 FFB8@KP_8 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>58=R FFC9@F12 FFB9@KP_9 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>46=N FF14@Scroll_Lock FF92@KP_F2 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>29=R 60@grave AC@notsign 7C@bar 0@NoSymbol
>2=R 31@1 21@exclam 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>3=R 32@2 22@quotedbl 40@at 0@NoSymbol
>4=R 33@3 A3@sterling 23@numbersign 0@NoSymbol
>5=R 34@4 24@dollar 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>6=R 35@5 25@percent 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>7=R 36@6 5E@asciicircum 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>8=R 37@7 26@ampersand 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>9=R 38@8 2A@asterisk 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>A=R 39@9 28@parenleft 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>B=R 30@0 29@parenright 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>C=R 2D@minus 5F@underscore 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>D=R 3D@equal 2B@plus 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>E=R FFFF@Delete FF08@BackSpace 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>F=R FF09@Tab FF89@KP_Tab 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>10=R 51@Q 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>11=R 57@W 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>12=R 45@E 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>13=R 52@R 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>14=R 54@T 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>15=R 59@Y 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>16=R 55@U 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>17=R 49@I 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>19=R 50@P 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>1A=R 5B@bracketleft 7B@braceleft 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>1B=R 5D@bracketright 7D@braceright 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>3A=L FFE5@Caps_Lock 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>1E=R 41@A 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>1F=R 53@S 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>20=R 44@D 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>21=R 46@F 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>22=R 47@G 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>23=R 48@H 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>24=R 4A@J 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>25=R 4B@K 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>26=R 4C@L 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>27=R 3B@semicolon 3A@colon 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>28=R 27@apostrophe 40@at 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>2B=R 23@numbersign 7E@asciitilde 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>1C=R FF0D@Return 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>2A=S FFE1@Shift_L 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>56=R 5C@backslash 7C@bar 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>2C=R 5A@Z 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>2D=R 58@X 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>2E=R 43@C 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>2F=R 56@V 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>30=R 42@B 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>31=R 4E@N 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>32=R 4D@M 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>33=R 2C@comma 3C@less 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>34=R 2E@period 3E@greater 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>35=R 2F@slash 3F@question 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>36=S FFE2@Shift_R 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>1D=C FFE3@Control_L 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>38=1 FFE9@Alt_L FFE7@Meta_L 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>138=13 FF7E@ModeSwitch 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>39=R 20@space 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>11D=C FFE4@Control_R 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>152=R FF63@Insert 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>147=R FF68@Find FF50@Home 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>149=R FF55@Prior 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>153=R 1000FF00@DRemove 1000FF00@DRemove 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>14F=R FF60@Select FF57@End 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>151=R FF56@Next 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>148=R FF52@Up 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>14B=R FF51@Left 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>150=R FF54@Down 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>14D=R FF53@Right 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>145=R FF7F@Num_Lock 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>135=R FFAF@KP_Divide 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>37=R FFAA@KP_Multiply 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>4A=R FF94@KP_F4 FFAD@KP_Subtract 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>47=R FFCB@F14 FFB7@KP_7 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>48=R FF52@Up FFB8@KP_8 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>49=R FF55@Prior FFB9@KP_9 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>4B=R FF51@Left FFB4@KP_4 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>4C=R FF80@KP_Space FFB5@KP_5 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>4D=R FF53@Right FFB6@KP_6 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>4F=R FFB1@KP_1 FF57@End 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>50=R FFB2@KP_2 FF54@Down 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>51=R FF56@Next FFB3@KP_3 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>52=R FF63@Insert FFB0@KP_0 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>53=R FFFF@Delete FFAE@KP_Decimal 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>4E=R FFAC@KP_Separator FFAB@KP_Add 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>11C=R FF8D@KP_Enter 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>18=R 4F@O 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
>45=N FF67@Menu FF91@KP_F1 0@NoSymbol 0@NoSymbol
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From sderrien@irisa.fr  Sun Feb  2 16:18:00 2003
From: sderrien@irisa.fr (Steven Derrien)
Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 16:18:00 -0000
Subject: Pb starting X-server on a win98 machine 
Message-ID: <3E3D44A9.DCE3E7@irisa.fr>

Hello,

I'm having problems starting Xfree X-server on my machine, 
(win95 upgreded to win98). when I run startx (or
startxwin.sh)
I get the following error message :

_X11TransSocketOpen : socket() failed for local
_X11TransSocketOpenCOTSClient : unable to open socket for
local
_X11TransOpen : transport open failed for local/mymachine:0
giving up
xinit : Adress family not supported by protocol (errno 106)
: unable to connect to X server

I have browsed through the FAQ and mailing list archive but
did not 
found anything related to this.

thank you in advance for any hint ...

Steven


From marbelman201@yahoo.com  Mon Feb  3 01:27:00 2003
From: marbelman201@yahoo.com (Marble Man)
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 01:27:00 -0000
Subject: What do people use xfree86 for? [cgf]
Message-ID: <20030203012706.39872.qmail@web14611.mail.yahoo.com>

DUH!!!!  YA DONT UNDERSTAND BECAZ YA HAVE NO
BRAIN...... LOL

HEY, BULLSHIT!!!! IT IS CALLED SPOOFIN, NOT
"masquerading."  YA CAN 
COMPLAIN TO ISP SOME POOR

BABE GUY WILL CRY THAT HE AINT WRITTEN IT..... LOL....

 

>Chris,
>Thanks.  I just don't understand some people.
>Harold
>Christopher Faylor wrote:

On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 12:26:28AM -0500, Harold L
Hunt II wrote:

You wanna ban this troll?

Done.FWIW, the pathetic little idiot tried three times
to send 
hisinarticulate response before he hit on the clever
plan of masqueradingas 
you.  I'll be sending a complaint to his ISP about
this.cgf






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From marbelman201@yahoo.com  Mon Feb  3 01:27:00 2003
From: marbelman201@yahoo.com (Marble Man)
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 01:27:00 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <20030203012744.12460.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com>

DUH!!!!  YA DONT UNDERSTAND BECAZ YA HAVE NO
BRAIN...... LOL

HEY, BULLSHIT!!!! IT IS CALLED SPOOFIN, NOT
"masquerading."  YA CAN 
COMPLAIN TO ISP SOME POOR

BABE GUY WILL CRY THAT HE AINT WRITTEN IT..... LOL....

 

>Chris,
>Thanks.  I just don't understand some people.
>Harold
>Christopher Faylor wrote:

On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 12:26:28AM -0500, Harold L
Hunt II wrote:

You wanna ban this troll?

Done.FWIW, the pathetic little idiot tried three times
to send 
hisinarticulate response before he hit on the clever
plan of masqueradingas 
you.  I'll be sending a complaint to his ISP about
this.cgf






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From arnstein@panix.com  Mon Feb  3 01:31:00 2003
From: arnstein@panix.com (David Arnstein)
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 01:31:00 -0000
Subject: Problem: Storm of zero-length IP connections
Message-ID: <3E3DC67C.76540C5D@panix.com>

I have a recurring problem with cygwin-xfree.  I am currently running
the latest version of all cygwin and xfree binaries, including
Xfree86-xserv 4.2.0-25.  I have been having this problem for several
versions back, though.  I am running Windows 2000 Professional service
pack 3.  My Dell computer has an 866 MHz Pentium III CPU and 256 MBytes
of SDRAM.

The problem is that for no apparent reason, my computer will begin
making IP connections to consecutive ports and transmitting zero bytes. 
Localhost port 3795 to localhost port 3796, then localhost port 3796 to
localhost port 3797, etc.  The connections come serveral times per
second and use up most of my CPU power.  I think that my network
bandwidth is affected too, but I can't prove it.

I don't know if those port connections are TCP or UDP, my firewall
(Norton Internet Security) doesn't tell me in its log file.

Today I was able to halt the connection storm by closing X11 windows one
by one, until a certain xterm window was closed.  It seemed to be the
culprit, but I don't know why.  The window was idle at the time.

Here is my startup script for cygwin-xfree:
rm -rf /tmp/.X11-unix
XWin -screen 0 1280 1024 -ac -nopn -clipboard &
sleep 5
twm &
xsetroot -solid navy
xterm -n `hostname` -j -ls -sb -sl 500 -rightbar +cn -cb \
    -bg black -fg white -geometry +361+0 -e bash &

Has anyone else seen this problem?  Is there a workaround?

Thanks for any ideas!
--
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From fredma@sympatico.ca  Mon Feb  3 01:43:00 2003
From: fredma@sympatico.ca (f)
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 01:43:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin-xfree Digest 3 Feb 2003 01:27:14 -0000 Issue 996
References: <1044235634.11241.ezmlm@cygwin.com>
Message-ID: <3E3DC8BE.5060500@sympatico.ca>

>
> Subject:
> Re: What do people use Xfree86 for?
> From:
> Harold L Hunt II <huntharo@msu.edu>
> Date:
> Sun, 02 Feb 2003 00:03:58 -0500
> To:
> cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>
>
> Fred,
>
> I actually use Cygwin/XFree86 to run xfig on my laptop while I am 
> doing my math and computer science homework at the library.  That is 
> the most useful local app that I use.  Other than that I tend to open 
> XDMCP sessions to my linux boxen so that I can login and use KDE.  
> That's about it.
>
> Harold


Thanks, Harold.  I use VNC for connecting to unix boxes.
I can send it through an ssh tunnel, and it's like mobile
computing (connect from anywhere that has ssh).
Cool nevertheless.  The boundary between windows
and unix is blurring, at least on the surface.

Fred


From rkarcher@frey.de  Mon Feb  3 07:53:00 2003
From: rkarcher@frey.de (Reinhard Karcher)
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 07:53:00 -0000
Subject: convert exceed keymaps to xfree
In-Reply-To: <F69svHuSOO1ZobKry8w00018c29@hotmail.com>
References: <F69svHuSOO1ZobKry8w00018c29@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <200302021303.45864.rkarcher@frey.de>

J S wrote:
> I would like to set up the key mappings for a VMS user on XFree86. He 
> currently uses Exceed. Unfortunately I can't get his F4 key to work which is 
> supposed to EXIT a panel on the application he is using. He sent me his 
> Exceed key map (see below) but I can't really figure out what changes I need 
> to make to the XFree mappings to make them the same as those in Exceed. Does 
> anyone here know? If you could explain the logic to me I might have a go at 
> writing a c program to convert Exceed keys maps to XFree!
> 
Hi,
I used the following keymap (including only the relevant parts). Exit is on
F10. Numlock is the gold key for eve.

Reinhard

!
! This is an `xmodmap' input file for PC 102 key #2 (Linux/XFree86; German) 
keyboards.
! Automatically generated on Sat Jan 16 18:16:36 1999 by re with
! XKeyCaps 2.42; Copyright (c) 1998 Jamie Zawinski <jwz@netscape.com>.
! http://people.netscape.com/jwz/xkeycaps/
!
! This file makes the following changes:
!
! The "F5" key generates F5 and Help
! The "F6" key generates F6 and Menu
! The "F7" key generates F7 and F17
! The "F8" key generates F8 and F18
! The "F9" key generates F9 and F19
! The "F10" key generates apExit
! The "F11" key generates Help
! The "F12" key generates Menu
! The "Druck S-Abf" key generates Print and Execute
! The "Rollen" key generates Scroll_Lock, and the Mod5 modifier
! The "Pause Untbr" key generates Pause and Break
! The "Backspace" key generates Delete, BackSpace, and 3270_DeleteWord
! The "Einfg" key generates Insert
! The "Pos1" key generates Find
! The "Num Lock" key generates KP_F1 and Num_Lock, and has no modifiers
! The "/" key generates KP_F2
! The "*" key generates KP_F3
! The "-" key generates KP_F4
! The "Tab" key generates Tab and ISO_Left_Tab
! The "Entf" key generates apLineDel
! The "Ende" key generates Select
! The "7 Pos1" key generates KP_Home and KP_7
! The "8 UpArrow" key generates KP_Up and KP_8
! The "9 Bild ^" key generates KP_Prior and KP_9
! The "+" key generates KP_Separator and KP_Subtract
! The "4 LeftArrow" key generates KP_Left and KP_4
! The "5" key generates KP_Begin and KP_5
! The "6 RightArrow" key generates KP_Right and KP_6
! The "1 Ende" key generates KP_End and KP_1
! The "2 DownArrow" key generates KP_Down and KP_2
! The "3 Bild v" key generates KP_Next and KP_3
! The "Alt" key generates Meta_L, and the Mod1 modifier
! The "Alt Gr" key generates Mode_switch and Multi_key, and the Mod3 modifier
! The "Strg" key generates Multi_key
! The "0 Einfg" key generates KP_Insert and KP_0
! The ", Entf" key generates KP_Delete and KP_Decimal

keycode 0x09 =	Escape
keycode 0x46 =	F4
keycode 0x47 =	F5		Help
keycode 0x48 =	F6		Menu
keycode 0x49 =	F7		F17
keycode 0x4A =	F8		F18
keycode 0x4B =	F9		F19
keycode 0x4C =	apExit
keycode 0x5F =	Help
keycode 0x60 =	Menu
keycode 0x6F =	Print		Execute
keycode 0x4E =	Scroll_Lock
keycode 0x6E =	Pause		Break
keycode 0x16 =	Delete		BackSpace	3270_DeleteWord
keycode 0x6A =	Insert
keycode 0x61 =	Find
keycode 0x63 =	Prior
keycode 0x4D =	KP_F1		Num_Lock
keycode 0x70 =	KP_F2
keycode 0x3F =	KP_F3
keycode 0x52 =	KP_F4
keycode 0x17 =	Tab		ISO_Left_Tab
keycode 0x6B =	apLineDel
keycode 0x67 =	Select
keycode 0x69 =	Next
keycode 0x4F =	KP_Home		KP_7
keycode 0x50 =	KP_Up		KP_8
keycode 0x51 =	KP_Prior	KP_9
keycode 0x56 =	KP_Separator	KP_Subtract
keycode 0x53 =	KP_Left		KP_4
keycode 0x54 =	KP_Begin	KP_5
keycode 0x55 =	KP_Right	KP_6
keycode 0x62 =	Up
keycode 0x57 =	KP_End		KP_1
keycode 0x58 =	KP_Down		KP_2
keycode 0x59 =	KP_Next		KP_3
keycode 0x6C =	KP_Enter
keycode 0x25 =	Control_L
keycode 0x40 =	Meta_L
keycode 0x71 =	Mode_switch	Multi_key
keycode 0x6D =	Multi_key
keycode 0x64 =	Left
keycode 0x68 =	Down
keycode 0x66 =	Right
keycode 0x5A =	KP_Insert	KP_0
keycode 0x5B =	KP_Delete	KP_Decimal

clear Shift
clear Lock
clear Control
clear Mod1
clear Mod2
clear Mod3
clear Mod4
clear Mod5

add    Shift   = Shift_L Shift_R
add    Lock    = Caps_Lock
add    Control = Control_L Multi_key
add    Mod1    = Meta_L
add    Mod3    = Mode_switch
add    Mod4    = Super_L Super_R
add    Mod5    = Scroll_Lock Hyper_R


From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com  Mon Feb  3 08:24:00 2003
From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bizvdm))
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 08:24:00 -0000
Subject: What do people use Xfree86 for?
Message-ID: <2FAEFC2A851BD211AD820008C7286BA4031E5A8F@NBIZ205>

You should feed your braincell more regularly, give it some water too.

The page you refer to is full of broken links and is trying to sell the
antique MI/X server.  Which was never able to handle multinational
keyboards.  Of course, this wouldn't be a problem, since yours is uppercase
only.  Still working on that Tandy?

-----Original Message-----
From: j-ttompkins@hotmail.com [mailto:j-ttompkins@hotmail.com]
Sent: zondag 2 februari 2003 6:10
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: What do people use Xfree86 for?


BULLSHIT!!!! 

NOT A GOOD EXPLAINATION!!!!

USE FOR REMTELY CONNECTING TO A UNIX BOX N USE REMOTE APPLICATIONS.....
YA CAN DOWNLOAD FREE XSERVER FROM
http://www.thecyborg.com/howto/xserver.html



>Fred,

>I actually use Cygwin/XFree86 to run xfig on my laptop while I am doing 
>my math and computer science homework at the library.  That is the most 
>useful local app that I use.  Other than that I tend to open XDMCP 
>sessions to my linux boxen so that I can login and use KDE.  That's 
>about it.

>Harold

>fred wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I just ran Xfree86.  Very, very nice.
> Just like sitting on the sun boxes
> at school.  All the twm setup files
> and Xresources work the same.  It was
> so alike (and tons faster) that I got
> carried away and starting to invoke
> apps like I do from school.  That's
> where the similarity ended.  All the
> apps fired up outside of Xwindows.
> That's OK, my relationship with windows
> is one of like-hate.  It has some pretty
> handy features, but I tear my head off
> about some things.
> 
> But, given that cygwin's X runs within
> Windows, and any apps you invoke fire
> up in MS windows (that's the way it
> should be because the apps were written
> to use the MS windows features), what
> do people actually use X for?  I've
> found that despite the mighty coolness,
> all I do is open up an xterm and start
> an ssh tunnel to school, with port
> forwarding.  Then I do everything else
> from MS windows.  With the virtual
> scrolling of the touchpad, and the
> rather effortless cut-and-paste, I
> don't mind it at all.  But it sort of
> makes me wonder....why?
> 
> Fred
> 
> P.S.  This is not a knock down of X
> on cygwin, I think it's really cool.
> It's astounding that it was even
> possible.  I'm wondering if I'm not
> making as much use of it as I could.
> 





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From john@io.com  Mon Feb  3 09:06:00 2003
From: john@io.com (John Buttery)
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 09:06:00 -0000
Subject: What do people use Xfree86 for?
In-Reply-To: <2FAEFC2A851BD211AD820008C7286BA4031E5A8F@NBIZ205>
References: <2FAEFC2A851BD211AD820008C7286BA4031E5A8F@NBIZ205>
Message-ID: <20030203090627.GB16780@io.com>

* "Pille Geert (bizvdm)" <geert.pille@vandemoortele.com> [2003-02-03 09:21:42 +0100]:
> The page you refer to is full of broken links and is trying to sell
> the antique MI/X server.  Which was never able to handle multinational
> keyboards.  Of course, this wouldn't be a problem, since yours is
> uppercase only.  Still working on that Tandy?

  You know, getting this guy's Yahoo mail account shut down might be a
little satisfying, but wouldn't reporting him to the Feds for fraud be
even better?  I doubt he's a legal Microimages reseller.  :)
  Apologies to the list manager(s) (and everyone else) for posting to
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From magus1011ca@yahoo.ca  Mon Feb  3 14:07:00 2003
From: magus1011ca@yahoo.ca (Magus)
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:07:00 -0000
Subject: Beginners questions.
Message-ID: <159127744898.20030203080705@yahoo.ca>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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Hi All,

  I think I've got Cygwin and XFree installed correctly on my
  Win98 SE box. I type "think" because I have no standard to go
  by. How can I tell when Cygwin is correctly installed? It
  currently runs and I can access info, man, sh, bc and most
  other good things that I know about.

  I'm in the same position with the X window stuff. I have no
  idea what I'm supposed to see. Since there are at least three
  ways of starting X detailed in the FAQ/User Manual, I'd like to
  try and tell you folks what I see when I try them and then you
  can tell me if this is normal or not, OK?

  First attempt was the startxwin.bat I get a full screen window
  with a bash window. When I left clicked the mouse and selected
  "exit" the bash window lost it's title. When I clicked the
  Windows Close button the Full Screen window went away and was
  replaced with another one. This one had no sub-windows and the
  mouse was not clickable but it did move.

  The next attempt was to start Cygwin and then type "startx" at
  the command prompt. Other than giving me a Xclock, unresponsive
  xterm and two bash windows this one behaved the same as the
  above.

  The last one was to start Cygwin and type:
  "sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh" (without the quotes) on the
  command prompt. This gave me a nice aquamarine (?) window with
  an Xclock and a bash window. Once again exit removes the
  windows titles, but this time close does close the window
  without a second one opening.

  OK, are these normal? If not, what is wrong with my install
  that is causing the problem and how do I go about fixing it?
  This is a totally fresh install, no files added.

- --
Best regards,
 Magus

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From dilcher@yahoo.com  Mon Feb  3 16:23:00 2003
From: dilcher@yahoo.com (Jeff Dilcher)
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 16:23:00 -0000
Subject: Problem with remote KDE apps
Message-ID: <20030203162309.77799.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com>

I am having a problem that I guess is X related.  I
ssh into another computer, then run "kmail", and the
application displays, however much of the toolbars and
other aspects of the display run off the screen.  Like
here:

http://hiddenworld.net:81/images/cygwin.jpg

I have fiddled with the "kmail -geometry" options, but
can't seem to change this behaviour.  

This is probably simple to remedy, but I can't find
the answer.

Thanks!


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From marbelman2001@yahoo.com  Tue Feb  4 06:34:00 2003
From: marbelman2001@yahoo.com (Marbel Man)
Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 06:34:00 -0000
Subject: What do people use Xfree86 for?
Message-ID: <20030204063449.71507.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com>

UMMMM............ DO YA FEED WATER TO YAR BRAIN
CELLS????  KEWL!!!!  I THOUGHT YA FEED GRASS TO YAR
BRAINCELLS THEREFORE YA COULD NOT GET LINK WRKING.....
LOL 

RE: What do people use Xfree86 for?From: "Pille Geert
(bizvdm)"  To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com Date:
Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:21:42 +0100 Subject: RE: What do
people use Xfree86 for? Reply-to: cygwin-xfree at
cygwin dot com 


You should feed your braincell more regularly, give it
some water too.The page you refer to is full of broken
links and is trying to sell theantique MI/X server. 
Which was never able to handle multinationalkeyboards.
 Of course, this wouldn't be a problem, since yours is
uppercaseonly.  Still working on that Tandy?From: John
Buttery  To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com Date: Mon,
3 Feb 2003 03:06:28 -0600 Subject: Re: What do people
use Xfree86 for? References:  Reply-to: cygwin-xfree
at cygwin dot com Reply-to: John Buttery  * "Pille
Geert (bizvdm)"  [2003-02-03 09:21:42 +0100]:> The
page you refer to is full of broken links and is
trying to sell> the antique MI/X server.  Which was
never able to handle multinational> keyboards.  Of
course, this wouldn't be a problem, since yours is>
uppercase only.  Still working on that Tandy?  You
know, getting this guy's Yahoo mail account shut down
might be alittle satisfying, but wouldn't reporting
him to the Feds for fraud beeven better?  I doubt he's
a legal Microimages reseller.  :)  Apologies to the
list manager(s) (and everyone else) for posting tothis
thread; please send replies to this message (if any)
to mepersonally and not the list.--
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From fma@doe.carleton.ca  Tue Feb  4 07:34:00 2003
From: fma@doe.carleton.ca (Shing-Fat Fred Ma)
Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 07:34:00 -0000
Subject: Beginners questions.
References: <1044340492.5721.ezmlm@cygwin.com>
Message-ID: <3E3F6D02.87FCA8A7@doe.carleton.ca>

> Subject: Beginners questions.
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:07:05 -0600
> From: Magus <magus1011ca@yahoo.ca>
> To: Cygwin-XFree Mailing List <cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com>
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Hi All,
>
>   I think I've got Cygwin and XFree installed correctly on my
>   Win98 SE box. I type "think" because I have no standard to go
>   by. How can I tell when Cygwin is correctly installed? It
>   currently runs and I can access info, man, sh, bc and most
>   other good things that I know about.
>
>   I'm in the same position with the X window stuff. I have no
>   idea what I'm supposed to see. Since there are at least three
>   ways of starting X detailed in the FAQ/User Manual, I'd like to
>   try and tell you folks what I see when I try them and then you
>   can tell me if this is normal or not, OK?- --
> Best regards,
>  Magus

Hey, Magus,

I don't think there's a "normal" X window.  It depends
on what's in your ~/.xinitrc.  I copied it from /etc/X11/xinit.
This is one of the ways of starting up X, using the startx
command.  I found that I had to run startx from /usr/X11R6/bin.
Simply putting the directory into my path didn't work.

In ~/.xinitrc, twm starts the window manqager.  You will see 3
commands to start xterms, and 1 to start a clock.  That's
what you should get on your desktop.   The first thing I did
was replace all that stuff with stuff I normally start up on
the sun boxes (I use twm instead of the sun desktop).  That
varies from individual to individual.

The capabilities of twm are in the man page, but it's kind of
hard to read.  I would search for a tutorial on the web.  But
a bit of experimenation reveals pretty all there is (it's a
bare bones windows manager).  Most of the functionality
can be seen in the popup menus, which show up when you
click the mouse on the desktop, away from any windows.
Some xterm options menus can be seen by pressing
control-mouse-button in the xterm.

The good thing about twm is that it's easier than other
window managers to customize, since everything is in
the man page.  It's not light reading, and requires
experimentation, but probably way simpler than
customizing, say, Sun's CDE.

Good luck.  And hope it's an interesting experience,
exploring the vagaries of X, though it's admittedly not
always straightforward.

Fred

--
Fred Ma, fma@doe.carleton.ca
Carleton University, Dept. of Electronics
1125 Colonel By Drive, Ottawa, Ontario
Canada, K1S 5B6




From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Feb  4 13:01:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 13:01:00 -0000
Subject: What do people use Xfree86 for?
In-Reply-To: <20030204063449.71507.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030204063449.71507.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E3FBA71.7030005@msu.edu>

Nothing to see here folks.  Move along... move along.

Marbel Man wrote:
> UMMMM............ DO YA FEED WATER TO YAR BRAIN
> CELLS????  KEWL!!!!  I THOUGHT YA FEED GRASS TO YAR
> BRAINCELLS THEREFORE YA COULD NOT GET LINK WRKING.....
> LOL 
> 
> RE: What do people use Xfree86 for?From: "Pille Geert
> (bizvdm)"  To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com Date:
> Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:21:42 +0100 Subject: RE: What do
> people use Xfree86 for? Reply-to: cygwin-xfree at
> cygwin dot com 
> 
> 
> You should feed your braincell more regularly, give it
> some water too.The page you refer to is full of broken
> links and is trying to sell theantique MI/X server. 
> Which was never able to handle multinationalkeyboards.
>  Of course, this wouldn't be a problem, since yours is
> uppercaseonly.  Still working on that Tandy?From: John
> Buttery  To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com Date: Mon,
> 3 Feb 2003 03:06:28 -0600 Subject: Re: What do people
> use Xfree86 for? References:  Reply-to: cygwin-xfree
> at cygwin dot com Reply-to: John Buttery  * "Pille
> Geert (bizvdm)"  [2003-02-03 09:21:42 +0100]:> The
> page you refer to is full of broken links and is
> trying to sell> the antique MI/X server.  Which was
> never able to handle multinational> keyboards.  Of
> course, this wouldn't be a problem, since yours is>
> uppercase only.  Still working on that Tandy?  You
> know, getting this guy's Yahoo mail account shut down
> might be alittle satisfying, but wouldn't reporting
> him to the Feds for fraud beeven better?  I doubt he's
> a legal Microimages reseller.  :)  Apologies to the
> list manager(s) (and everyone else) for posting tothis
> thread; please send replies to this message (if any)
> to mepersonally and not the list.--
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From kengifford@hotmail.com  Tue Feb  4 14:34:00 2003
From: kengifford@hotmail.com (Ken Gifford)
Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 14:34:00 -0000
Subject: Tk apps under cygwin
Message-ID: <F222OPTeLjet47I5pyN000067fe@hotmail.com>



>From a search of the archives I gather that the cywgin implementation
of tk is implemented to display tk widgets as native win-32 rather
than via XFree86. I have a ported Tk app which "contains" an X-window
using a BLT extension; Does any one know if it's possible to contain
a Cygwin/XFree86 window within a Win32 Tk application and if so, would
they be willing to share some example code.

Cheers,

   Ken



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From magus1011ca@yahoo.ca  Wed Feb  5 01:04:00 2003
From: magus1011ca@yahoo.ca (Magus)
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 01:04:00 -0000
Subject: Beginners questions.
In-Reply-To: <3E3F6D02.87FCA8A7@doe.carleton.ca>
References: <1044340492.5721.ezmlm@cygwin.com>
 <3E3F6D02.87FCA8A7@doe.carleton.ca>
Message-ID: <1069807893.20030204190416@yahoo.ca>

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Hello Fred,

  Thanks for the reply, it eased my mind a _lot_. I think I have
  a fairly workable install of Cygwin and Xfree on my machine.

  I grabbed the same xinitrc file you mentioned and then took a
  look at the startxwin.sh file. A few cuts and pastes in Ultra
  Edit, a funnily formatted save as command (I'm not used to
  saving as ".xinitrc" i.e. extension only in Windows or hidden
  file in Unix, on my Windows box) and both startxwin.bat and
  running startx from the command prompt work the same and pretty
  much the way I want. I'll have a look at the man page for
  startx fairly soon to see if I can get a non full screen window
  like the startxwin.sh does.

SFFM> I found that I had to run startx from /usr/X11R6/bin.
SFFM> Simply putting the directory into my path didn't work.

  Interesting you should mention that. I have absolutely no
  problem here on Win98 SE. Do you, like me, have the latest
  version of Cygwin1.dll?

  The next step will be getting KDE 2 to run here. Once I have
  that then I will feel more confident that I can get the
  programming project I'm working on started in a real
  programming environment instead of on paper. I want this
  program to be a go in both UNIX derived and Windows
  environments.

  I notice that you are with or in the Dept. of Electronics at
  Carleton. Interesting coincidence, I'm a C. Tech. in
  Electronics. Unemployed right now while I await an operation,
  but still a C. Tech. I don't know how you knew, but I'm glad
  you did. Thanks once again for the help and a belated "Happy
  New Year" of the sheep.


Best regards,
 Magus

- --
Tuesday, February 4, 2003, 1:34:26 AM, you wrote:

>> Subject: Beginners questions.
>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:07:05 -0600
>> From: Magus <magus1011ca@yahoo.ca>
>> To: Cygwin-XFree Mailing List <cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com>
>>
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>> Hi All,
>>
>>   I think I've got Cygwin and XFree installed correctly on my
>>   Win98 SE box. I type "think" because I have no standard to go
>>   by. How can I tell when Cygwin is correctly installed? It
>>   currently runs and I can access info, man, sh, bc and most
>>   other good things that I know about.
>>
>>   I'm in the same position with the X window stuff. I have no
>>   idea what I'm supposed to see. Since there are at least three
>>   ways of starting X detailed in the FAQ/User Manual, I'd like to
>>   try and tell you folks what I see when I try them and then you
>>   can tell me if this is normal or not, OK?- --
>> Best regards,
>>  Magus

SFFM> Hey, Magus,

SFFM> I don't think there's a "normal" X window.  It depends
SFFM> on what's in your ~/.xinitrc.  I copied it from /etc/X11/xinit.
SFFM> This is one of the ways of starting up X, using the startx
SFFM> command.  I found that I had to run startx from /usr/X11R6/bin.
SFFM> Simply putting the directory into my path didn't work.

SFFM> In ~/.xinitrc, twm starts the window manqager.  You will see 3
SFFM> commands to start xterms, and 1 to start a clock.  That's
SFFM> what you should get on your desktop.   The first thing I did
SFFM> was replace all that stuff with stuff I normally start up on
SFFM> the sun boxes (I use twm instead of the sun desktop).  That
SFFM> varies from individual to individual.

SFFM> The capabilities of twm are in the man page, but it's kind of
SFFM> hard to read.  I would search for a tutorial on the web.  But
SFFM> a bit of experimenation reveals pretty all there is (it's a
SFFM> bare bones windows manager).  Most of the functionality
SFFM> can be seen in the popup menus, which show up when you
SFFM> click the mouse on the desktop, away from any windows.
SFFM> Some xterm options menus can be seen by pressing
SFFM> control-mouse-button in the xterm.

SFFM> The good thing about twm is that it's easier than other
SFFM> window managers to customize, since everything is in
SFFM> the man page.  It's not light reading, and requires
SFFM> experimentation, but probably way simpler than
SFFM> customizing, say, Sun's CDE.

SFFM> Good luck.  And hope it's an interesting experience,
SFFM> exploring the vagaries of X, though it's admittedly not
SFFM> always straightforward.

SFFM> Fred

SFFM> --
SFFM> Fred Ma, fma@doe.carleton.ca
SFFM> Carleton University, Dept. of Electronics
SFFM> 1125 Colonel By Drive, Ottawa, Ontario
SFFM> Canada, K1S 5B6

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From danilo.turina@alcatel.it  Wed Feb  5 11:06:00 2003
From: danilo.turina@alcatel.it (Danilo Turina)
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 11:06:00 -0000
Subject: wrong app-defaults in fresh installation
Message-ID: <b1qr46$fac$1@main.gmane.org>

Hi,
	in in a fresh installation of Cygwin on my new XP PC, I noticed that 
xcalc (and other X apps) didn't work properly. I have had this problem 
some time ago: within the directory  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults has 
been created a link to /etc/X11/app-defaults (where the app-defaults of 
many applications are).
So while in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults there are on the 
app-defaults of Mwm all the other app-defaults are in 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/app-defaults and the various X apps 
(e.g. xcalc) can't find them.

	Last time I thought that this problem was my fault in that I installed 
X, lessTiff, WindowMaker as separate packages before they were included 
in setup and then, when they become available in setup, I replaced them 
with the setup versions. So I thought some re-packaging would have 
caused that problem and simply replaced /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults 
with a link to /etc/X11/app-defaults.

	Now, with a fresh Cygwin installation, I have the some problem (that I 
will solve in the same way) so I think there is some problem with the 
installation of some X package.

	Ciao,

				Danilo Turina

Here is the output of cygcheck -s:


Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics
Current System Time: Wed Feb 05 12:05:52 2003

Windows XP Professional Ver 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1

Path:	.
	C:\cygwin\bin
	C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin
	C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin
	C:\cygwin\bin
	C:\cygwin\bin
	c:\Windows\system32
	c:\Windows
	c:\Windows\System32\Wbem
	c:\Program Files\Rational\common
	c:\Program Files\Rational\Rose\TopLink\
	C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin

SysDir: C:\Windows\System32
WinDir: C:\Windows

HOME = `C:\cygwin\home\Administrator'
MAKE_MODE = `unix'
PWD = `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults'
USER = `Administrator'

Use `-r' to scan registry

a:  fd           N/A    N/A
c:  hd  NTFS   17351Mb  47% CP CS UN PA FC
d:  cd  CDFS     634Mb 100%    CS UN           HotBurn_Sep17_02

C:\cygwin                          /                         system  binmode
C:\cygwin/bin                      /usr/bin                  system  binmode
C:\cygwin/lib                      /usr/lib                  system  binmode
C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts  system  binmode
.                                  /cygdrive                 user 
binmode,cygdrive

Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe
Not Found: gdb
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\make.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe

    58k 2002/05/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz2-1.dll
     6k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcharset-1.dll
   847k 2003/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcrypto-0.9.7.dll
   644k 2002/12/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcrypto.dll
    45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll
    35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll
    19k 2002/02/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll
    17k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory4.dll
    20k 2002/10/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory5.dll
   929k 2002/06/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygiconv-2.dll
    22k 2001/12/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-1.dll
    28k 2002/09/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-2.dll
    21k 2001/06/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl.dll
   119k 2002/02/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll
    32k 2003/01/04 C:\cygwin\bin\cygltdl-3.dll
    26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll
    20k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu6.dll
   156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll
   175k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll
   226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll
   202k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll
    15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll
    12k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel6.dll
    40k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcre.dll
    39k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcreposix.dll
   175k 2002/07/22 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng10.dll
    22k 2002/06/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpopt-0.dll
   108k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline4.dll
   127k 2002/10/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline5.dll
   177k 2003/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygssl-0.9.7.dll
   165k 2002/12/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygssl.dll
   253k 2002/02/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll
    41k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-noX4.dll
    46k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-X4.dll
    50k 2002/03/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll
   885k 2003/01/24 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll
     Cygwin DLL version info:
         DLL version: 1.3.19
         DLL epoch: 19
         DLL bad signal mask: 19005
         DLL old termios: 5
         DLL malloc env: 28
         API major: 0
         API minor: 71
         Shared data: 3
         DLL identifier: cygwin1
         Mount registry: 2
         Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions
         Cygwin registry name: Cygwin
         Program options name: Program Options
         Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2
         Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags
         Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix
         Cygdrive default prefix:
         Build date: Thu Jan 23 21:31:48 EST 2003
         CVS tag: cygwin-1-3-19-1
         Shared id: cygwin1S3

    41k 2002/05/14 C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\cygPropList-0.dll

Cygwin Package Information
Package             Version
WindowMaker         0.80.0-2
XFree86-base        4.2.0-1
XFree86-bin         4.2.0-2
XFree86-doc         4.2.0-1
XFree86-etc         4.2.0-1
XFree86-f100        4.2.0-2
XFree86-fenc        4.2.0-2
XFree86-fnts        4.2.0-2
XFree86-fscl        4.2.0-2
XFree86-lib         4.2.0-3
XFree86-man         4.2.0-1
XFree86-nest        4.2.0-1
XFree86-prog        4.2.0-1
XFree86-startup-scripts4.2.0-3
XFree86-vfb         4.2.0-1
XFree86-xserv       4.2.0-25
XFree86-xwinclip    4.2.0-8
Xaw3d               1.5-1
_update-info-dir    00129-1
agetty              2.1-1
ash                 20020731-1
astyle              1.15.3-3
autoconf            2.54-1
autoconf-devel      2.57-1
autoconf-stable     2.13-4
automake            1.7.1-1
automake-devel      1.7.2-1
automake-stable     1.4p5-5
base-files          1.1-1
base-passwd         1.0-1
bash                2.05b-8
binutils            20021117-1
bison               1.875-1
byacc               1.9-1
bzip2               1.0.2-2
chkconfig           1.2.24h-1
clear               1.0-1
cpio                2.5-1
cron                3.0.1-7
crypt               1.0-1
cygrunsrv           0.95-1
cygutils            1.1.3-1
cygwin              1.3.19-1
cygwin-doc          1.3-2
diff                1.0-1
diffutils           2.8.1-1
ed                  0.2-1
expect              20030128-1
file                3.37-1
fileutils           4.1-1
findutils           4.1.7-4
flex                2.5.4-2
fortune             1.8-2
gawk                3.1.1-5
gcc                 3.2-3
gcc-mingw           20020817-5
gdbm                1.8.0-4
gettext             0.11.5-1
gperf               2.7.2-1
grep                2.5-1
groff               1.18.1-2
gzip                1.3.3-4
inetutils           1.3.2-20
initscripts         0.9-1
jpeg                6b-7
less                378-1
lesstif             0.93.18-3
libPropList         0.10.1-3
libbz2_1            1.0.2-2
libcharset1         1.8-2
libiconv2           1.8-2
libintl             0.10.38-3
libintl1            0.10.40-1
libintl2            0.11.5-1
libltdl3            20030103-1
libncurses5         5.2-1
libncurses6         5.2-8
libpng10            1.0.14-2
libpopt0            1.6.4-4
libreadline4        4.1-2
libreadline5        4.3-2
libtool             20020705-1
libtool-devel       20030103-1
libtool-stable      1.4.3-1
login               1.7-1
lynx                2.8.4-5
m4                  1.4-1
make                3.79.1-7
man                 1.5j-1
mc                  4.5.55-1
mingw-runtime       2.3-1
mktemp              1.4-1
more                2.11o-1
nasm                0.98.35-1
ncurses             5.2-8
newlib-man          20020801
opengl              1.1.0-6
openssl             0.9.7-1
openssl096          0.9.6h-1
patch               2.5.8-2
pcre                3.7-1
perl                5.6.1-2
perl_manpages       5.8.0-1
pinfo               0.6.6p1-1
pkgconfig           0.14.0-1
popt                1.6.4-4
procmail            3.22-7
procps              010801-2
readline            4.3-2
rxvt                2.7.9-4
sed                 4.0.5-1
sh-utils            2.0.15-3
sharutils           4.2.1-2
shutdown            1.2-2
sysvinit            2.84-3
tar                 1.13.25-1
tcltk               20030128-3
tcp_wrappers        7.6-1
termcap             20020930-1
terminfo            5.2-3
texinfo             4.2-4
textutils           2.0.21-1
tiff                3.5.7-1
time                1.7-1
units               1.77-1
unzip               5.50-1
vim                 6.1-2
w32api              2.1-1
wget                1.8.2-2
which               1.5-1
whois               4.6.1-1
x2x                 1.27-2
xinetd              2.3.9-1
xpm-nox             4.2.0-1
zip                 2.3-2
zlib                1.1.4-1

Use -h to see help about each section



From fma@doe.carleton.ca  Wed Feb  5 16:16:00 2003
From: fma@doe.carleton.ca (Shing-Fat Fred Ma)
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 16:16:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin-xfree Digest 5 Feb 2003 11:06:42 -0000 Issue 998
References: <1044443202.11086.ezmlm@cygwin.com>
Message-ID: <3E4138E5.F8D840F6@doe.carleton.ca>

> Subject: Re[2]: Beginners questions.
> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:04:16 -0600
> From: Magus <magus1011ca@yahoo.ca>
> To: Shing-Fat Fred Ma <cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com>
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Hello Fred,
>
>   Thanks for the reply, it eased my mind a _lot_. I think I have
>   a fairly workable install of Cygwin and Xfree on my machine.

No problem.

SFFM> command.  I found that I had to run startx from /usr/X11R6/bin.
SFFM> Simply putting the directory into my path didn't work.

>  Interesting you should mention that. I have absolutely no
>   problem here on Win98 SE. Do you, like me, have the latest
>   version of Cygwin1.dll?

A few days old as of my posting date, same as on the web.
"cygcheck -cvr" gives

    cygwin              1.3.19-1

Doesn't seem like a -cvr kind of problem, it complains
that I have a badly formed file inquiry.  I've seen that
message with shell scripts that have and if(....), where
the shell mistook the "if"  logical expression as a query
for file existence, or something similar.  It happens
between the time startx calls xinit and the time when
my .xiinitrc script *starts* to run.  Since xinit is a binary
executable, I can't see what's going on in there.

>   I notice that you are with or in the Dept. of Electronics at
>   Carleton. Interesting coincidence, I'm a C. Tech. in
>   Electronics. Unemployed right now while I await an operation,
>   but still a C. Tech. I don't know how you knew, but I'm glad
>   you did. Thanks once again for the help and a belated "Happy
>   New Year" of the sheep.
>
> Best regards,
>  Magus

What's a C. Tech?
Thanks for the wishes.  Good luck in your job hunt.

Fred

--
Fred Ma, fma@doe.carleton.ca
Carleton University, Dept. of Electronics
1125 Colonel By Drive, Ottawa, Ontario
Canada, K1S 5B6




From fma@doe.carleton.ca  Wed Feb  5 16:18:00 2003
From: fma@doe.carleton.ca (Shing-Fat Fred Ma)
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 16:18:00 -0000
Subject: Beginners questions.
References: <1044443202.11086.ezmlm@cygwin.com>
Message-ID: <3E413936.8AC14F06@doe.carleton.ca>

Sorry for the 2nd mailing.  I forgot to change
the subject line, as often happens.

> Subject: Re[2]: Beginners questions.
> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:04:16 -0600
> From: Magus <magus1011ca@yahoo.ca>
> To: Shing-Fat Fred Ma <cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com>
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Hello Fred,
>
>   Thanks for the reply, it eased my mind a _lot_. I think I have
>   a fairly workable install of Cygwin and Xfree on my machine.

No problem.

SFFM> command.  I found that I had to run startx from /usr/X11R6/bin.
SFFM> Simply putting the directory into my path didn't work.

>  Interesting you should mention that. I have absolutely no
>   problem here on Win98 SE. Do you, like me, have the latest
>   version of Cygwin1.dll?

A few days old as of my posting date, same as on the web.
"cygcheck -cvr" gives

    cygwin              1.3.19-1

Doesn't seem like a -cvr kind of problem, it complains
that I have a badly formed file inquiry.  I've seen that
message with shell scripts that have and if(....), where
the shell mistook the "if"  logical expression as a query
for file existence, or something similar.  It happens
between the time startx calls xinit and the time when
my .xiinitrc script *starts* to run.  Since xinit is a binary
executable, I can't see what's going on in there.

>   I notice that you are with or in the Dept. of Electronics at
>   Carleton. Interesting coincidence, I'm a C. Tech. in
>   Electronics. Unemployed right now while I await an operation,
>   but still a C. Tech. I don't know how you knew, but I'm glad
>   you did. Thanks once again for the help and a belated "Happy
>   New Year" of the sheep.
>
> Best regards,
>  Magus

What's a C. Tech?
Thanks for the wishes.  Good luck in your job hunt.

Fred

--
Fred Ma, fma@doe.carleton.ca
Carleton University, Dept. of Electronics
1125 Colonel By Drive, Ottawa, Ontario
Canada, K1S 5B6


From vervoom@hotmail.com  Wed Feb  5 16:37:00 2003
From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S)
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 16:37:00 -0000
Subject: xwin parameter for xmodmap?
Message-ID: <F34Yw3BtU3jyHcSavAT0002869a@hotmail.com>

Quick question.

Do I always have to do 'xmodmap /etc/xmodmap/xmodmap.uk' to set my keys on 
XFree, or is it possible to do this from an Xwin command flag? I found the 
flags -xkbdb, -keyboard and -xkbdb but they don't seem to be connected to 
the keycode map.

Thanks,

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From pcolovas@lucent.com  Wed Feb  5 22:27:00 2003
From: pcolovas@lucent.com (Peter W. Colovas)
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 22:27:00 -0000
Subject: overlapping windows [was Re: Some undesirable behaviour in Test77]
Message-ID: <3E418FB7.6090208@lucent.com>

I am running Xwin 4.2.0-25, and I am seeing the overlapping window problem. I am running the freeware window manager multiDesk. I like the multiwindow mode, and the integrated clipboard is very nice also. 

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From magus1011ca@yahoo.ca  Thu Feb  6 04:21:00 2003
From: magus1011ca@yahoo.ca (Magus)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 04:21:00 -0000
Subject: Pre-Installation Questions.
Message-ID: <3510572612.20030205222046@yahoo.ca>

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  How do I know I've got all of the correct versions of the
  requirements: bzip2, jpeg, libpng2, libxml2, libxslt, openssl,
  pcre, and zlib? I installed all of Cygwin and my "startx -v"
  says it's XFree86 4.2.0(165). I'm running on Windows 98 SE.
  I've downloaded all the manual files and put them in a
  directory convenient to the download. I do not understand the
  line "tar -xjf /.tar.bz2". Does this mean that the "local dir"
  mentioned on the Manual Installation page should be the Cygwin
  root e.g. "C:\cygwin" or "/" or is it some other directory?

  Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

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From cgf-cygwin@cygwin.com  Thu Feb  6 04:30:00 2003
From: cgf-cygwin@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 04:30:00 -0000
Subject: Pre-Installation Questions.
In-Reply-To: <3510572612.20030205222046@yahoo.ca>
References: <3510572612.20030205222046@yahoo.ca>
Message-ID: <20030206043143.GA16102@redhat.com>

On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 10:20:46PM -0600, Magus wrote:
>How do I know I've got all of the correct versions of the requirements:
>bzip2, jpeg, libpng2, libxml2, libxslt, openssl, pcre, and zlib?  I
>installed all of Cygwin and my "startx -v" says it's XFree86
>4.2.0(165).  I'm running on Windows 98 SE.  I've downloaded all the
>manual files and put them in a directory convenient to the download.  I
>do not understand the line "tar -xjf /.tar.bz2".  Does this mean that
>the "local dir" mentioned on the Manual Installation page should be the
>Cygwin root e.g.  "C:\cygwin" or "/" or is it some other directory?
>
>Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

Go to the cygwin web site and click on the "Install Cygwin Now!" link.
*That* is how you install cygwin.  There is no need to download and
install things by hand.

Select the packages you need from the "Select Packages" screen by
clicking on the "+" to expand the categories.

This is how you ensure that you have the latest version of everything.
setup.exe (the program you download when you click on Install Cygwin
Now!) does it for you automatically.

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From magus1011ca@yahoo.ca  Thu Feb  6 04:49:00 2003
From: magus1011ca@yahoo.ca (Magus)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 04:49:00 -0000
Subject: Pre-Installation Questions. Sorry, message was posted to wrong group.
In-Reply-To: <3510572612.20030205222046@yahoo.ca>
References: <3510572612.20030205222046@yahoo.ca>
Message-ID: <13512305715.20030205224939@yahoo.ca>

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M>   pcre, and zlib? I installed all of Cygwin and my "startx -v"
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M>   mentioned on the Manual Installation page should be the Cygwin
M>   root e.g. "C:\cygwin" or "/" or is it some other directory?

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From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Feb  6 05:06:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 05:06:00 -0000
Subject: overlapping windows [was Re: Some undesirable behaviour in Test77]
In-Reply-To: <3E418FB7.6090208@lucent.com>
References: <3E418FB7.6090208@lucent.com>
Message-ID: <3E41ED61.5030200@msu.edu>

Peter,

Are you saying that you are passing -multiwindow to XWin.exe AND running 
the window manager multiDesk?  If that is the case, then you are doing 
something that is not intended: you are running two window managers. 
Obviously, this causes problems.

Please explain what you are doing.

Harold

Peter W. Colovas wrote:
> I am running Xwin 4.2.0-25, and I am seeing the overlapping window 
> problem. I am running the freeware window manager multiDesk. I like the 
> multiwindow mode, and the integrated clipboard is very nice also.


From vervoom@hotmail.com  Thu Feb  6 10:38:00 2003
From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 10:38:00 -0000
Subject: (fwd) non us keyboards and cygwin xfree86
Message-ID: <F791Djw8I1JcDO8OP3g0000cdd6@hotmail.com>

Hi Tom,

I tried that but got:

$ xkbcomp -xkm -m gb /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 
/etc/X11/xkb/keymap/gb
Error:            Include file wrong type (expected KeyNames, got Keymap)
                  Include file "xfree86" ignored
                  Abandoning keycodes file "gb"

This is what /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 says for gb:

xkb_keymap "gb" {
    xkb_keycodes        { include "xfree86"             };
    xkb_types           { include "default"             };
    xkb_compatibility   { include "default"             };
    xkb_symbols         { include "en_US(pc105)+gb"     };
    xkb_geometry        { include "pc(pc102)"           };


Can you see what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks,

JS.



>just because i often ran across it an due to my earlier question
>on that list which seems to pop up in google if you search for
>that topic i'd like to write down how to make cygwin's XWin work
>natively with a non us keyboard (tested with the german keyboard
>but should also work for other languages)
>
>* first you have to compile a keymap for your language - for german
>   this looks like
>
>     xkbcomp -xkm -m de /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 \
>       /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/de
>
>   in older versions of cygwin xfree86 it had to be /tmp/de.xkm
>   instead of /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/de
>
>* then you can start your xserver like
>
>     XWin.exe -xkbmap de
>
>   and you should have your keyboard (btw. don't be surprised that
>   in the shell not all charackters are shown - like for instance
>   the german umlauts - thats the default bash behavior as used in
>   cygwin - just open a vi inside that bash and you should be able
>   to see all the other charackters too
>
>* if you want to know what the name for your keyboard is or
>   which ones are available: just have a look at
>
>     /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86
>
>hope that helps someone and maybe this should be added to the
>cygwin/XFree86 faq ... i hope everything is correct and i have
>not missed anything - best wishes
>
>t
>
>--
>thomas graichen <tgr@spoiled.org> ... perfection is reached, not
>when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no
>longer anything to take away. --- antoine de saint-exupery
>-- end of forwarded message --
>
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From moser@decodon.com  Thu Feb  6 10:40:00 2003
From: moser@decodon.com (Frank-Michael Moser)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 10:40:00 -0000
Subject: wrong app-defaults in fresh installation
In-Reply-To: <b1qr46$fac$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <b1qr46$fac$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <3E423B94.4080805@decodon.com>

It is the lesstif package which creates a folder

  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults

when /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Mwm is extracted. When there is 
already a link

   app-defaults -> /etc/X11/app-defaults/

the everything is fine - otherwise later you will get the app-defaults 
link to /etc/X11/app-defaults/ inside the usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults 
folder.

I had the same problem sometime ago and "complained" ;) to the list. 
Don't know whether the lesstif maintainer or somebody else could fix it.

Frank-Michael

Danilo Turina wrote:
> Hi,
>     in in a fresh installation of Cygwin on my new XP PC, I noticed that 
> xcalc (and other X apps) didn't work properly. I have had this problem 
> some time ago: within the directory  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults has 
> been created a link to /etc/X11/app-defaults (where the app-defaults of 
> many applications are).
> So while in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults there are on the 
> app-defaults of Mwm all the other app-defaults are in 
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/app-defaults and the various X apps 
> (e.g. xcalc) can't find them.
> 
>     Last time I thought that this problem was my fault in that I 
> installed X, lessTiff, WindowMaker as separate packages before they were 
> included in setup and then, when they become available in setup, I 
> replaced them with the setup versions. So I thought some re-packaging 
> would have caused that problem and simply replaced 
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults with a link to /etc/X11/app-defaults.
> 
>     Now, with a fresh Cygwin installation, I have the some problem (that 
> I will solve in the same way) so I think there is some problem with the 
> installation of some X package.
> 
>     Ciao,
> 
>                 Danilo Turina


From vervoom@hotmail.com  Thu Feb  6 10:47:00 2003
From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 10:47:00 -0000
Subject: numlock 
Message-ID: <F93AA6vbbtYBL8N87f60001cd5f@hotmail.com>

Is there a way to run XFree with the numlock key on without stopping the 
keys from working? I followed the instructions from Harold's post at:

http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00307.html

but that solution didn't seem to work for me.

Thanks,

JS.



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From vervoom@hotmail.com  Thu Feb  6 13:12:00 2003
From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 13:12:00 -0000
Subject: (fwd) non us keyboards and cygwin xfree86
Message-ID: <F841wdi3qZLOkEiQFhL00009dc7@hotmail.com>

I get the same error even if I try to compile the German keyboard:

xkb_keymap "de" {
    xkb_keycodes        { include "xfree86"             };
    xkb_types           { include "default"             };
    xkb_compatibility   { include "default"             };
    xkb_symbols         { include "en_US(pc105)+de"     };
    xkb_geometry        { include "pc(pc102)"           };


$ xkbcomp -xkm -m de /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 
/etc/X11/xkb/keymap/de
Error:            Include file wrong type (expected KeyNames, got Keymap)
                  Include file "xfree86" ignored
                  Abandoning keycodes file "de"





>ho - i can only say that it worked for german (de) - maybe you
>should compare the entries and files for those two to see what
>the difference is ... if you find out anything - please let me
>know ...
>
>t
>
>On Thursday 06 February 2003 11:38, you wrote:
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > I tried that but got:
> >
> > $ xkbcomp -xkm -m gb /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86
> > /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/gb
> > Error:            Include file wrong type (expected KeyNames,
> > got Keymap) Include file "xfree86" ignored
> >                   Abandoning keycodes file "gb"
> >
> > This is what /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 says for gb:
> >
> > xkb_keymap "gb" {
> >     xkb_keycodes        { include "xfree86"             };
> >     xkb_types           { include "default"             };
> >     xkb_compatibility   { include "default"             };
> >     xkb_symbols         { include "en_US(pc105)+gb"     };
> >     xkb_geometry        { include "pc(pc102)"           };
> >
> >
> > Can you see what I'm doing wrong?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > JS.
> >
> > >just because i often ran across it an due to my earlier
> > > question on that list which seems to pop up in google if you
> > > search for that topic i'd like to write down how to make
> > > cygwin's XWin work natively with a non us keyboard (tested
> > > with the german keyboard but should also work for other
> > > languages)
> > >
> > >* first you have to compile a keymap for your language - for
> > > german this looks like
> > >
> > >     xkbcomp -xkm -m de /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86
> > > \ /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/de
> > >
> > >   in older versions of cygwin xfree86 it had to be
> > > /tmp/de.xkm instead of /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/de
> > >
> > >* then you can start your xserver like
> > >
> > >     XWin.exe -xkbmap de
> > >
> > >   and you should have your keyboard (btw. don't be surprised
> > > that in the shell not all charackters are shown - like for
> > > instance the german umlauts - thats the default bash behavior
> > > as used in cygwin - just open a vi inside that bash and you
> > > should be able to see all the other charackters too
> > >
> > >* if you want to know what the name for your keyboard is or
> > >   which ones are available: just have a look at
> > >
> > >     /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86
> > >
> > >hope that helps someone and maybe this should be added to the
> > >cygwin/XFree86 faq ... i hope everything is correct and i have
> > >not missed anything - best wishes
> > >
> > >t
> > >
> > >--
> > >thomas graichen <tgr@spoiled.org> ... perfection is reached,
> > > not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there
> > > is no longer anything to take away. --- antoine de
> > > saint-exupery -- end of forwarded message --
> > >
> > >--
> > >thomas graichen <tgr@spoiled.org> ... perfection is reached,
> > > not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there
> > > is no longer anything to take away. --- antoine de
> > > saint-exupery
> >
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From LHebblethwaite@transoft.com  Thu Feb  6 13:37:00 2003
From: LHebblethwaite@transoft.com (Leigh Hebblethwaite)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 13:37:00 -0000
Subject: (fwd) non us keyboards and cygwin xfree86
Message-ID: <03Feb6.133640gmt.117123@tsfire.transoft.com>

The command below worked for me:

$ xkbcomp -xkm -m gb /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 \
/etc/X11/xkb/keymap/gb

It may be nothing to do with your problem but neither of your examples of the xkbcomp commands you have tried show the '\' at the end of the 1st line of the command. Are you typing the command in as one line? If not you'll need the '\'.

Leigh.

-----Original Message-----
From: J S [mailto:vervoom@hotmail.com]
Sent: 06 February 2003 13:12
To: tgr@spoiled.org
Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: (fwd) non us keyboards and cygwin xfree86


I get the same error even if I try to compile the German keyboard:

xkb_keymap "de" {
    xkb_keycodes        { include "xfree86"             };
    xkb_types           { include "default"             };
    xkb_compatibility   { include "default"             };
    xkb_symbols         { include "en_US(pc105)+de"     };
    xkb_geometry        { include "pc(pc102)"           };


$ xkbcomp -xkm -m de /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 
/etc/X11/xkb/keymap/de
Error:            Include file wrong type (expected KeyNames, got Keymap)
                  Include file "xfree86" ignored
                  Abandoning keycodes file "de"





>ho - i can only say that it worked for german (de) - maybe you
>should compare the entries and files for those two to see what
>the difference is ... if you find out anything - please let me
>know ...
>
>t
>
>On Thursday 06 February 2003 11:38, you wrote:
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > I tried that but got:
> >
> > $ xkbcomp -xkm -m gb /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86
> > /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/gb
> > Error:            Include file wrong type (expected KeyNames,
> > got Keymap) Include file "xfree86" ignored
> >                   Abandoning keycodes file "gb"
> >
> > This is what /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 says for gb:
> >
> > xkb_keymap "gb" {
> >     xkb_keycodes        { include "xfree86"             };
> >     xkb_types           { include "default"             };
> >     xkb_compatibility   { include "default"             };
> >     xkb_symbols         { include "en_US(pc105)+gb"     };
> >     xkb_geometry        { include "pc(pc102)"           };
> >
> >
> > Can you see what I'm doing wrong?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > JS.
> >
> > >just because i often ran across it an due to my earlier
> > > question on that list which seems to pop up in google if you
> > > search for that topic i'd like to write down how to make
> > > cygwin's XWin work natively with a non us keyboard (tested
> > > with the german keyboard but should also work for other
> > > languages)
> > >
> > >* first you have to compile a keymap for your language - for
> > > german this looks like
> > >
> > >     xkbcomp -xkm -m de /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86
> > > \ /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/de
> > >
> > >   in older versions of cygwin xfree86 it had to be
> > > /tmp/de.xkm instead of /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/de
> > >
> > >* then you can start your xserver like
> > >
> > >     XWin.exe -xkbmap de
> > >
> > >   and you should have your keyboard (btw. don't be surprised
> > > that in the shell not all charackters are shown - like for
> > > instance the german umlauts - thats the default bash behavior
> > > as used in cygwin - just open a vi inside that bash and you
> > > should be able to see all the other charackters too
> > >
> > >* if you want to know what the name for your keyboard is or
> > >   which ones are available: just have a look at
> > >
> > >     /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86
> > >
> > >hope that helps someone and maybe this should be added to the
> > >cygwin/XFree86 faq ... i hope everything is correct and i have
> > >not missed anything - best wishes
> > >
> > >t
> > >
> > >--
> > >thomas graichen <tgr@spoiled.org> ... perfection is reached,
> > > not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there
> > > is no longer anything to take away. --- antoine de
> > > saint-exupery -- end of forwarded message --
> > >
> > >--
> > >thomas graichen <tgr@spoiled.org> ... perfection is reached,
> > > not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there
> > > is no longer anything to take away. --- antoine de
> > > saint-exupery
> >
> > _______________________________________________________________
> >__ Stay in touch with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.co.uk
>
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From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Thu Feb  6 13:45:00 2003
From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 13:45:00 -0000
Subject: (fwd) non us keyboards and cygwin xfree86
In-Reply-To: <F791Djw8I1JcDO8OP3g0000cdd6@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302061442400.27385-100000@herein.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>

On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, J S wrote:

> Hi Tom,
> 
> I tried that but got:
> 
> $ xkbcomp -xkm -m gb /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 
> /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/gb
> Error:            Include file wrong type (expected KeyNames, got Keymap)
>                   Include file "xfree86" ignored
>                   Abandoning keycodes file "gb"

Why are still people working with this way? The keyboard is configurable
in the config file /etc/X11/XF86Config. A sample config file can be found
at http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/XF86Config-4.bz2

bye
	ago


From abraverman@itms.com  Thu Feb  6 14:11:00 2003
From: abraverman@itms.com (Andrew Braverman)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:11:00 -0000
Subject: overlapping windows [was Re: Some undesirable behaviour in Test77]
In-Reply-To: <3E41ED61.5030200@msu.edu>
Message-ID: <000401c2cde9$9e6b9580$1e54cea7@andrew>

I am also running Xwin 4.2.0-25 under XP.  I do not run another window
manager (tried it and realized just how bad it would be).  I am running
Xwin -multiwindow -clipboard.  I am running X all day at work.  Though I do
not have the overlapping problem at the beginning of my session, it often
does show itself at some time during the day.  I have also been noticing
another problem that have been reported on this list.  If I try to run
different X apps on different virtual desktops (using MS Virtual Desktop
Manager), all X apps just start to blink very quickly and the apps become
unusable.

I also noticed two other things that I have not seen reported here yet.
First, as I bring up an X app (most often xterm), it often reacts as if the
enter key is being held down.  This will usually stop if I hit enter.  The
second thing that I have noticed is that in some apps (ddd is the one that I
can easily reproduce this in), I can select data by double or triple
clicking, but if I try to drag the mouse over words, the selection gets
confused and ends up just emptying the clipboard.  I have not yet tried this
without the -clipboard setting, but I assume that this is the root cause.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:07 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: overlapping windows [was Re: Some undesirable
> behaviour in
> Test77]
>
>
> Peter,
>
> Are you saying that you are passing -multiwindow to XWin.exe
> AND running
> the window manager multiDesk?  If that is the case, then you
> are doing
> something that is not intended: you are running two window managers.
> Obviously, this causes problems.
>
> Please explain what you are doing.
>
> Harold
>
> Peter W. Colovas wrote:
> > I am running Xwin 4.2.0-25, and I am seeing the overlapping window
> > problem. I am running the freeware window manager
> multiDesk. I like the
> > multiwindow mode, and the integrated clipboard is very nice also.
>
>



From vervoom@hotmail.com  Thu Feb  6 14:12:00 2003
From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:12:00 -0000
Subject: (fwd) non us keyboards and cygwin xfree86
Message-ID: <F895Q2JpokIc6E5SI2t0002d51e@hotmail.com>

Wow that works!

Thanks Alex.



>
>On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, J S wrote:
>
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > I tried that but got:
> >
> > $ xkbcomp -xkm -m gb /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86
> > /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/gb
> > Error:            Include file wrong type (expected KeyNames, got 
>Keymap)
> >                   Include file "xfree86" ignored
> >                   Abandoning keycodes file "gb"
>
>Why are still people working with this way? The keyboard is configurable
>in the config file /etc/X11/XF86Config. A sample config file can be found
>at http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/XF86Config-4.bz2
>
>bye
>	ago


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From list-cygwin.xfree@spoiled.org  Thu Feb  6 14:28:00 2003
From: list-cygwin.xfree@spoiled.org (thomas graichen)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:28:00 -0000
Subject: (fwd) non us keyboards and cygwin xfree86
References: <F791Djw8I1JcDO8OP3g0000cdd6@hotmail.com> <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302061442400.27385-100000@herein.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>
Message-ID: <news2mail-20030206142808.4FD0070A.NOFFLE@tecklenburg2.spmtechnologies.com>

Alexander Gottwald <alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, J S wrote:

>> Hi Tom,
>> 
>> I tried that but got:
>> 
>> $ xkbcomp -xkm -m gb /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 
>> /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/gb
>> Error:            Include file wrong type (expected KeyNames, got Keymap)
>>                   Include file "xfree86" ignored
>>                   Abandoning keycodes file "gb"

> Why are still people working with this way? The keyboard is configurable
> in the config file /etc/X11/XF86Config. A sample config file can be found
> at http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/XF86Config-4.bz2

maybe because it is notwhere really documented - this should definiteley
go into the cygwin xfree86 faq and maybe a sample XF86Config should be
part of the cygwin xfree86 distrib ... definitely this way is much
better and cleaner than the xkbcomp thing by hand ...

t

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longer anything to take away. --- antoine de saint-exupery


From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Thu Feb  6 14:37:00 2003
From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:37:00 -0000
Subject: (fwd) non us keyboards and cygwin xfree86
In-Reply-To: <news2mail-20030206142808.4FD0070A.NOFFLE@tecklenburg2.spmtechnologies.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302061534340.27385-100000@herein.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>

On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, thomas graichen wrote:

> maybe because it is notwhere really documented - this should definiteley
> go into the cygwin xfree86 faq and maybe a sample XF86Config should be
> part of the cygwin xfree86 distrib ... definitely this way is much
> better and cleaner than the xkbcomp thing by hand ...

It's at least documented in the mailing list archive. Every month someone 
asks why XWin -keymap does not work anymore and I always tell to use the
configfile. But it seems nobody searches the list archives.

bye
	ago  
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Feb  6 14:47:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:47:00 -0000
Subject: (fwd) non us keyboards and cygwin xfree86
In-Reply-To: <000401c2cde9$9e6b9580$1e54cea7@andrew>
References: <000401c2cde9$9e6b9580$1e54cea7@andrew>
Message-ID: <3E427588.5000605@msu.edu>

Andrew,

The selection becoming unhighlighted is the expected, though undesirable 
behavior of -clipboard.  There has been much discussion of this on the 
list.  Just search the mailing list archives for "xwinclip" if you want 
the full explanation.

No comments on the other bugs.  Kensuke will need to look at those.

Harold

Andrew Braverman wrote:
> I am also running Xwin 4.2.0-25 under XP.  I do not run another window
> manager (tried it and realized just how bad it would be).  I am running
> Xwin -multiwindow -clipboard.  I am running X all day at work.  Though I do
> not have the overlapping problem at the beginning of my session, it often
> does show itself at some time during the day.  I have also been noticing
> another problem that have been reported on this list.  If I try to run
> different X apps on different virtual desktops (using MS Virtual Desktop
> Manager), all X apps just start to blink very quickly and the apps become
> unusable.
> 
> I also noticed two other things that I have not seen reported here yet.
> First, as I bring up an X app (most often xterm), it often reacts as if the
> enter key is being held down.  This will usually stop if I hit enter.  The
> second thing that I have noticed is that in some apps (ddd is the one that I
> can easily reproduce this in), I can select data by double or triple
> clicking, but if I try to drag the mouse over words, the selection gets
> confused and ends up just emptying the clipboard.  I have not yet tried this
> without the -clipboard setting, but I assume that this is the root cause.
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
>>Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:07 AM
>>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>>Subject: Re: overlapping windows [was Re: Some undesirable
>>behaviour in
>>Test77]
>>
>>
>>Peter,
>>
>>Are you saying that you are passing -multiwindow to XWin.exe
>>AND running
>>the window manager multiDesk?  If that is the case, then you
>>are doing
>>something that is not intended: you are running two window managers.
>>Obviously, this causes problems.
>>
>>Please explain what you are doing.
>>
>>Harold
>>
>>Peter W. Colovas wrote:
>>
>>>I am running Xwin 4.2.0-25, and I am seeing the overlapping window
>>>problem. I am running the freeware window manager
>>
>>multiDesk. I like the
>>
>>>multiwindow mode, and the integrated clipboard is very nice also.
>>
>>
> 
> 


From pcolovas@lucent.com  Thu Feb  6 15:04:00 2003
From: pcolovas@lucent.com (Peter W. Colovas)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 15:04:00 -0000
Subject: overlapping windows [was Re: Some undesirable behaviour in Test77]
In-Reply-To: <3E41ED61.5030200@msu.edu>
References: <3E418FB7.6090208@lucent.com> <3E41ED61.5030200@msu.edu>
Message-ID: <3E42792C.9070700@lucent.com>

Whoops, I misspoke. multidesk is a windows based virtual desktop program. When I put X windows apps in more than one virtual desktop, they overlap so that the contents are muddled. Actually, you can still access the windows from the "wrong" virtual DT, I.e., a window that is supposed to be in DT 2 is still accessible in DT3, and obscures the contents of the "proper" window.
-Pete

Harold L Hunt II wrote:
> Peter,
> 
> Are you saying that you are passing -multiwindow to XWin.exe AND running 
> the window manager multiDesk?  If that is the case, then you are doing 
> something that is not intended: you are running two window managers. 
> Obviously, this causes problems.
> 
> Please explain what you are doing.
> 
> Harold
> 
> Peter W. Colovas wrote:
> 
>> I am running Xwin 4.2.0-25, and I am seeing the overlapping window 
>> problem. I am running the freeware window manager multiDesk. I like 
>> the multiwindow mode, and the integrated clipboard is very nice also.
> 
> 

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From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Thu Feb  6 16:41:00 2003
From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:41:00 -0000
Subject: [PATCH] default XKB settings 
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302061736590.1337-200000@lupus.ago.vpn>

Hi,

This is a patch to change the default settings for XKB depending on the 
settings windows reported. I've added the following keyboardtypes 
cz: Czech
dk: Danish
de: German (Germany)
gb: English (United Kingdom)
es: Spanish (Spain, Traditional Sort)
fi: Finnish
fr: French (Standard)
be: French (Belgian)
se: Swedish (Sweden)

Harold, can you add this to your builds?

bye
    ago

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-------------- next part --------------
Index: winconfig.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winconfig.c,v
retrieving revision 1.1
diff -u -r1.1 winconfig.c
--- winconfig.c	2002/10/17 08:18:22	1.1
+++ winconfig.c	2003/02/06 16:36:34
@@ -213,9 +213,35 @@
 
 /* Set the keyboard configuration */
 
+typedef struct {
+    int winlayout;
+    int winkbtype;
+    char *xkbmodel;
+    char *xkblayout;
+    char *xkbvariant;
+    char *xkboptions;
+    char *layoutname;
+} WinKBLayoutRec, *WinKBLayoutPtr;
+
+WinKBLayoutRec winKBLayouts[] = {
+    {0x405, 4, "pc105", "cz", NULL,         NULL, "Czech"},
+    {0x406, 4, "pc105", "dk", NULL,         NULL, "Danish"},
+    {0x407, 4, "pc105", "de", "nodeadkeys", NULL, "German (Germany)"},
+    {0x809, 4, "pc105", "gb", NULL,         NULL, "English (United Kingdom)"},
+    {0x40a, 4, "pc105", "es", NULL,         NULL, "Spanish (Spain, Traditional Sort)"},
+    {0x40b, 4, "pc105", "fi", NULL,         NULL, "Finnish"},
+    {0x40c, 4, "pc105", "fr", NULL,         NULL, "French (Standard)"},
+    {0x80c, 4, "pc105", "be", NULL,         NULL, "French (Belgian)"},
+    {0x41d, 4, "pc105", "se", NULL,         NULL, "Swedish (Sweden)"},
+    {-1, -1, NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL}
+};
+
 Bool
 winConfigKeyboard (DeviceIntPtr pDevice)
 {
+  char                          layoutName[KL_NAMELENGTH];
+  int                           layoutNum;
+  int                           keyboardType;  
   XF86ConfInputPtr		kbd = NULL;
   XF86ConfInputPtr		input_list = NULL;
   MessageType			from = X_DEFAULT;
@@ -237,6 +263,31 @@
   g_winInfo.xkb.variant = NULL;
   g_winInfo.xkb.options = NULL;
 # endif	/* PC98 */
+
+  
+
+  keyboardType = GetKeyboardType(0);
+  if (keyboardType > 0 && GetKeyboardLayoutName(layoutName)) 
+  {
+    layoutNum = strtol(layoutName, (char **)NULL, 16);   
+    WinKBLayoutPtr pLayout = winKBLayouts;
+    for (pLayout = winKBLayouts; pLayout->winlayout != -1; pLayout++) {
+      if (pLayout->winlayout != layoutNum)
+        continue;
+      if (pLayout->winkbtype > 0 && pLayout->winkbtype != keyboardType)
+        continue;
+      
+	  winMsg (X_DEFAULT, "Using preset keyboard for \"%s\" (%s), type \"%d\"\n",
+              pLayout->layoutname, layoutName, keyboardType);
+
+      g_winInfo.xkb.model = pLayout->xkbmodel;
+      g_winInfo.xkb.layout = pLayout->xkblayout;
+      g_winInfo.xkb.variant = pLayout->xkbvariant;
+      g_winInfo.xkb.options = pLayout->xkboptions; 
+      break;
+    } 
+  }  
+  
   g_winInfo.xkb.initialMap = NULL;
   g_winInfo.xkb.keymap = NULL;
   g_winInfo.xkb.types = NULL;

From frandsen@lsu.edu  Thu Feb  6 18:34:00 2003
From: frandsen@lsu.edu (Jannette Frandsen)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 18:34:00 -0000
Subject: Running Xfig on XP problem
Message-ID: <000401c2ce0e$78b83f80$6b1d2782@engrad>

 Hi,
 
 I have uninstalled/reinstalled cygwin + xfig trying to overcome various
problems
 I haven't manage to resolve the problems which are:
 
 First, I am assuming the cygwin installed properly.
 I have tried to install both the versions of xfig (3.2.4 and 3.2.3d).
When I 
 try to import a Figure (I have tried with a GIF format) I get the 
 following error: can't find giftopnm and ppmtopcx.
 
  What I should do to fix this error? (there may be problems with 
  importing/exporting other formats).
 
 Also when I open Xfig I get following message prompted:
 "App-defaults old version. Go to xfig directory and type "make install"
".
 This does not work, do you know what is the problem?
 
 Also, I can only run Xfig as administrator on XP not as a user. I am 
 prompted "/usr/shar/texmf/web2c/textmf.cnf: permission denied". I am 
 puzzled about this because when I installed cygwin I clicked on "all 
 users" and "DOS".
 
 Can anyone help?

 
 Regards,
 
 -Jannette Frandsen


From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Thu Feb  6 20:47:00 2003
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 20:47:00 -0000
Subject: numlock
Message-ID: <F92X96k3Bv6no4y4Vds0000b628@hotmail.com>

Actually, the instructions were mine, not Harold's (they were in response to 
a note from Harold).

Try this...

Start X without the NumLock modification.  In an xterm, run "xmodmap -pm".  
You should see something that resembles the following:

xmodmap:  up to 2 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):

shift       Shift_L (0x32),  Shift_R (0x3e)
lock        Caps_Lock (0x42)
control     Control_L (0x25),  Control_R (0x6d)
mod1        Alt_L (0x40),  Alt_R (0x71)
mod2        Num_Lock (0x4d)
mod3
mod4
mod5        Scroll_Lock (0x4e)


If "Num_Lock" shows up next to something other than mod2, then you'll need 
to change what comes after "clear" when you run xmodmap.

Alternatively, you might experiment with the following scriptlet which tries 
to figure out which mod key is assigned to NumLock...

numlock=`xmodmap -pm | grep -i num_lock | awk '{print $1}'`
if [ "$numlock" != "" ]
then
  xmodmap -e "clear $numlock" ${HOME}/.Xmodmap
fi


Of course, if your NumLock key was already assigned to mod2, then I'm not 
sure what's going on.  You might want to experiment with running xev.  If 
you've cleared NumLock from the keymap, then the value of "state" inside a 
KeyPress/Release event resulting from pressing a key on the numeric keypad 
should be 0x0 regardless of whether NumLock is on or off.


>From: "J S" <vervoom@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>Subject: numlock Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 10:46:58 +0000
>
>Is there a way to run XFree with the numlock key on without stopping the 
>keys from working? I followed the instructions from Harold's post at:
>
>http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00307.html
>
>but that solution didn't seem to work for me.
>
>Thanks,
>
>JS.
>
>
>
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From vervoom@hotmail.com  Fri Feb  7 09:23:00 2003
From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S)
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 09:23:00 -0000
Subject: numlock
Message-ID: <F13pHbn2MjdAfTtYJRg000310a1@hotmail.com>

Hi Thomas,

Thanks for your reply. I get the same as you if I run xmodmap -pm. Also if I 
do: xmodmap -e "clear mod2" that clears mod2, but on the XDM login screen I 
still can't type any letters.

Here's the value of the NumLock key before clearing mod2:

KeyRelease event, serial 21, synthetic NO, window 0x600001,
    root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 3663237, (570,393), root:(576,418),
    state 0x10, keycode 77 (keysym 0xff7f, Num_Lock), same_screen YES,
    XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""

Here's the value after clearing mod2:

KeyRelease event, serial 21, synthetic NO, window 0x600001,
    root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 3594839, (105,139), root:(111,164),
    state 0x10, keycode 77 (keysym 0xff7f, Num_Lock), same_screen YES,
    XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""

The state value seems to be the same.

JS.


>Actually, the instructions were mine, not Harold's (they were in response 
>to a note from Harold).
>
>Try this...
>
>Start X without the NumLock modification.  In an xterm, run "xmodmap -pm".  
>You should see something that resembles the following:
>
>xmodmap:  up to 2 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):
>
>shift       Shift_L (0x32),  Shift_R (0x3e)
>lock        Caps_Lock (0x42)
>control     Control_L (0x25),  Control_R (0x6d)
>mod1        Alt_L (0x40),  Alt_R (0x71)
>mod2        Num_Lock (0x4d)
>mod3
>mod4
>mod5        Scroll_Lock (0x4e)
>
>
>If "Num_Lock" shows up next to something other than mod2, then you'll need 
>to change what comes after "clear" when you run xmodmap.
>
>Alternatively, you might experiment with the following scriptlet which 
>tries to figure out which mod key is assigned to NumLock...
>
>numlock=`xmodmap -pm | grep -i num_lock | awk '{print $1}'`
>if [ "$numlock" != "" ]
>then
>  xmodmap -e "clear $numlock" ${HOME}/.Xmodmap
>fi
>
>
>Of course, if your NumLock key was already assigned to mod2, then I'm not 
>sure what's going on.  You might want to experiment with running xev.  If 
>you've cleared NumLock from the keymap, then the value of "state" inside a 
>KeyPress/Release event resulting from pressing a key on the numeric keypad 
>should be 0x0 regardless of whether NumLock is on or off.
>
>
>>From: "J S" <vervoom@hotmail.com>
>>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>>Subject: numlock Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 10:46:58 +0000
>>
>>Is there a way to run XFree with the numlock key on without stopping the 
>>keys from working? I followed the instructions from Harold's post at:
>>
>>http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00307.html
>>
>>but that solution didn't seem to work for me.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>JS.
>>
>>
>>
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From Satya.Neelakantan@state.nm.us  Fri Feb  7 21:02:00 2003
From: Satya.Neelakantan@state.nm.us (Neelakantan, Satya)
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 21:02:00 -0000
Subject: xterm error
Message-ID: <83FC3C78A4D5D211A0250008C7F4CFE602941495@ex3.state.nm.us>

When i try to run xterm i get the following error and the terminal does not
open.  How do i fix it


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From rmarc@copacetic.net  Fri Feb  7 21:34:00 2003
From: rmarc@copacetic.net (R. Marc)
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 21:34:00 -0000
Subject: X forwarding from Windomaker menu item (problem)
Message-ID: <20030207163412.A8625@copacetic.net>


I just recently upgraded to Win2K from WinNT.  In doing so, I also
upgraded to the latest and greatest cygwin release.

After doing this, everything works fine (most things better) accept
for my X forwarding of apps via menu items from WindowMaker.

Here is how I have my environment set up:

First I start X with ssh-agent, and use ssh-add to authenticate to the
agent.

I have menu items in windowmaker that look like:

ssh -X <user>@<unix box> <some X program>.

I use this to run various things, usually off a Linux box.

This worked fine until I upgraded.

If I issue the above command from an xterm, it works.

I've run sshd in debug mode as well as the client redirecting the
output to a file and according to the output, the commands work and
the X programs are forwarding somewhere, but they don't show up
on my local display for some reason.

I have to go kill them on the remote machines too, they don't die
when I shut down X locally.

The only thing I see that is different (other than the obvious version
differences) is I get the following now on any X forwarding session:

Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding.

But I get that even when the X Forwarding works.

Attached is some output from sshd runing netscape off a sun box.
Anybody with a clue, please help.  I'm plum out of cluefulness.

R. Marc

debug1: sshd version OpenSSH_3.4p1
debug1: private host key: #0 type 0 RSA1
debug1: read PEM private key done: type RSA
debug1: private host key: #1 type 1 RSA
debug1: read PEM private key done: type DSA
debug1: private host key: #2 type 2 DSA
debug1: Bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0.
Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22.
Generating 768 bit RSA key.
RSA key generation complete.
debug1: Server will not fork when running in debugging mode.
Connection from 1.1.1.5 port 2187
debug1: Client protocol version 2.0; client software version OpenSSH_3.5p1
debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.5p1 pat OpenSSH*
Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0
debug1: Local version string SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_3.4p1
debug1: list_hostkey_types: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received
debug1: kex: client->server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none
debug1: kex: server->client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST received
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP sent
debug1: dh_gen_key: priv key bits set: 121/256
debug1: bits set: 1557/3191
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT
debug1: bits set: 1551/3191
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY sent
debug1: kex_derive_keys
debug1: newkeys: mode 1
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent
debug1: waiting for SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS
debug1: newkeys: mode 0
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received
debug1: KEX done
debug1: userauth-request for user someuser service ssh-connection method none
debug1: attempt 0 failures 0
debug1: Starting up PAM with username "someuser"
debug1: PAM setting rhost to "1.1.1-5.somedomain.com"
Failed none for someuser from 1.1.1.5 port 2187 ssh2
debug1: userauth-request for user someuser service ssh-connection method publickey
debug1: attempt 1 failures 1
debug1: test whether pkalg/pkblob are acceptable
debug1: temporarily_use_uid: 100/100 (e=0)
debug1: trying public key file /export/home/someuser/.ssh/authorized_keys
debug1: restore_uid
debug1: temporarily_use_uid: 100/100 (e=0)
debug1: trying public key file /export/home/someuser/.ssh/authorized_keys2
debug1: matching key found: file /export/home/someuser/.ssh/authorized_keys2, line 1
Found matching DSA key: 00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00
debug1: restore_uid
Postponed publickey for someuser from 1.1.1.5 port 2187 ssh2
debug1: userauth-request for user someuser service ssh-connection method publickey
debug1: attempt 2 failures 1
debug1: temporarily_use_uid: 100/100 (e=0)
debug1: trying public key file /export/home/someuser/.ssh/authorized_keys
debug1: restore_uid
debug1: temporarily_use_uid: 100/100 (e=0)
debug1: trying public key file /export/home/someuser/.ssh/authorized_keys2
debug1: matching key found: file /export/home/someuser/.ssh/authorized_keys2, line 1
Found matching DSA key: 00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00
debug1: restore_uid
debug1: ssh_dss_verify: signature correct
Accepted publickey for someuser from 1.1.1.5 port 2187 ssh2
debug1: Entering interactive session for SSH2.
debug1: fd 7 setting O_NONBLOCK
debug1: fd 8 setting O_NONBLOCK
debug1: server_init_dispatch_20
debug1: server_input_channel_open: ctype session rchan 0 win 131072 max 32768
debug1: input_session_request
debug1: channel 0: new [server-session]
debug1: session_new: init
debug1: session_new: session 0
debug1: session_open: channel 0
debug1: session_open: session 0: link with channel 0
debug1: server_input_channel_open: confirm session
debug1: server_input_channel_req: channel 0 request x11-req reply 0
debug1: session_by_channel: session 0 channel 0
debug1: session_input_channel_req: session 0 req x11-req
debug1: bind port 6010: Address already in use
debug1: bind port 6011: Address already in use
debug1: bind port 6012: Address already in use
debug1: fd 9 setting O_NONBLOCK
debug1: channel 1: new [X11 inet listener]
debug1: server_input_channel_req: channel 0 request auth-agent-req@openssh.com reply 0
debug1: session_by_channel: session 0 channel 0
debug1: session_input_channel_req: session 0 req auth-agent-req@openssh.com
debug1: temporarily_use_uid: 100/100 (e=0)
debug1: restore_uid
debug1: fd 10 setting O_NONBLOCK
debug1: channel 2: new [auth socket]
debug1: server_input_channel_req: channel 0 request exec reply 0
debug1: session_by_channel: session 0 channel 0
debug1: session_input_channel_req: session 0 req exec
debug1: PAM establishing creds
debug1: fd 4 setting TCP_NODELAY
debug1: fd 12 setting O_NONBLOCK
debug1: fd 14 setting O_NONBLOCK
debug1: X11 connection requested.
debug1: fd 11 setting TCP_NODELAY
debug1: channel 3: new [X11 connection from 127.0.0.1 port 8657]
debug1: X11 connection requested.
debug1: fd 13 setting TCP_NODELAY


From carlroy@uiuc.edu  Fri Feb  7 23:18:00 2003
From: carlroy@uiuc.edu (Carl L. Roy)
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 23:18:00 -0000
Subject: rxvt v2.7.9-04 crashes when an xterm change pixmap sequence is
  sent.
Message-ID: <5.1.1.5.2.20030207165445.02f324f8@staff.uiuc.edu>

Rxvt v2.7.9 - released: 04 OCTOBER 2002


When I enter an xterm escape sequence to change the pixmap in the current 
window, rxvt crashes.  Below is the command that I enter to do this.

echo '^[]20;/home/user/alexhat^G'

I have attempted this in numerous ways, with the same results each time.
         1) as above
         2) just the name alexhat
         3) just the name with extension (alexhat.xpm)
         4) full path with name and extension.

If I load the pixmap with the -pixmap argument in the command line to rxvt, 
it works just fine.
I can move the pixmap around in the window using the escape sequence as 
shown below.

         echo '^[]20;;+20+20^G'

So the problem just seems to be with loading the file.  Given that the 
image can be loaded form the command line, this indicates that the .xpm 
file is good.

I have included a stack dump from the last attempt.

Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=6103E038
eax=00000000 ebx=00025C98 ecx=0A04C5F0 edx=46524650 esi=0A04C5F8 edi=0A072288
ebp=0022FC68 esp=0022FC50 program=C:\cygwin\bin\rxvt.exe
cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs=0000 ss=0023
Stack trace:
Frame     Function  Args
0022FC68  6103E038  (00000000, 00025F0C, 00000000, 00000000)
0022FC98  6103EA86  (0A04C5F8, 0A04C5F8, 0022FD08, 62A43646)
0022FCA8  62A47715  (0A04C5F8, 00000000, 00000000, 00000141)
0022FD08  62A43646  (0A041B10, 0A042A88, 0A1C13C8, 00000141)
0022FD28  00423954  (0A041B10, 0A042A88, 0A1C13C8, 0A04BCA0)
0022FE18  004124D6  (0A040438, 0A041AC0, 0A04BB78, 0A04072C)
0022FE48  00412B73  (0A040438, 0A04BC38, 0022FE78, 610782FB)
0022FE78  00404895  (0A040438, 00000014, 0A04BC38, 00000007)
0022FEA8  004045EA  (0A040438, 0A040D68, 00000001, 00000003)
0022FED8  00405373  (0A040438, 615F1B60, 61009620, 00000002)
0022FEF0  004010C8  (00000004, 615F1B60, 0A040330, 0022FF24)
0022FF40  610072E8  (610CBAA8, FFFFFFFE, 00000048, 610CB9CC)
0022FF90  610075CD  (00000000, 00000000, 80430F47, 00000000)
0022FFB0  004255B2  (00401090, 037F0009, 0022FFF0, 77EA847C)
0022FFC0  0040103C  (65720062, 00005C64, 7FFDF000, 0022E6B0)
0022FFF0  77EA847C  (00401000, 00000000, 000000C8, 00000100)
End of stack trace (more stack frames may be present)



______________________________________________________________
Carl L. Roy
Network Design Office                          Phone:    (217)244-6836
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From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu  Sat Feb  8 00:35:00 2003
From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski)
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 00:35:00 -0000
Subject: rxvt v2.7.9-04 crashes when an xterm change pixmap sequence is
  sent.
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20030207165445.02f324f8@staff.uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302071909230.12312-100000@slinky.cs.nyu.edu>

Carl,

I don't normally use rxvt, but this intrigued me for some reason.  Well,
I've been unable to reproduce your problem (in both the X and the non-X
modes).  I'm running Win2k SP3, with Exceed as my X server.  The relevant
versions are:

$ rxvt -v
...
Rxvt v2.7.9 - released: 04 OCTOBER 2002
Options: XPM,transparent,menubar,multichar_languages,scrollbars=rxvt+NeXT+xterm,.Xdefaults
...
$

And the cygwin1.dll was compiled from CVS today.

This brings up three possibilities:
1) Your pixmap has something wrong with it.
2) This action triggered a bug in Cygwin that is fixed in the latest
   snapshot.
3) This is a bug in XFree86 (as this works under Exceed).

If you post the pixmap you're trying to use, I'll try to eliminate the
first possibility.  You trying out the latest snapshot of Cygwin will
(probably) eliminate the second.  Someone else with XFree86 will have to
eliminate the third (you could also try rxvt in non-X mode to see if this
still crashes it).
	Igor
P.S. The stack trace you posted was absolutely useless without the output
of "cygcheck -svr" attached to the message, since the function addresses
change with every version of the cygwin DLL (and some of them weren't from
the DLL anyway, although the top frame looks like it was).  FYI, read "man
addr2line" and try using it to debug the stack dump.

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Carl L. Roy wrote:

> Rxvt v2.7.9 - released: 04 OCTOBER 2002

> When I enter an xterm escape sequence to change the pixmap in the current
> window, rxvt crashes.  Below is the command that I enter to do this.
>
> echo '^[]20;/home/user/alexhat^G'
>
> I have attempted this in numerous ways, with the same results each time.
>          1) as above
>          2) just the name alexhat
>          3) just the name with extension (alexhat.xpm)
>          4) full path with name and extension.
>
> If I load the pixmap with the -pixmap argument in the command line to rxvt,
> it works just fine.
> I can move the pixmap around in the window using the escape sequence as
> shown below.
>
>          echo '^[]20;;+20+20^G'
>
> So the problem just seems to be with loading the file.  Given that the
> image can be loaded form the command line, this indicates that the .xpm
> file is good.
>
> I have included a stack dump from the last attempt.
> [stack dump snipped]

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  -- /usr/games/fortune


From aw8346@sbc.com  Sat Feb  8 00:44:00 2003
From: aw8346@sbc.com (WU, ALEX (SBCSI))
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 00:44:00 -0000
Subject: xman cannot display manpage
Message-ID: <1AD1721C5DBBD34CA7721E46C73BD9BF5FFF8F@CASNRM1MSGUSR03.ITServices.sbc.com>

My system is Win2000, running cygwin 1.3.18.

I could start xman to display the first manpage, but it failed to
display the next manpage. 

The symptom is:
error message displayed in concole: 
cannot create /tmp/xman002444: permission denied

xman displays "PleaseStandby" dialog with the following warning message in 
the xman main window:
Something went wrong trying to run the command: cd /usr/man; tbl ... | neqn
| nroff -man > /tmp/xman002444 2> /dev/null

I checked strace output, it seemed that it did access
c:\cygwin\tmp\xman002444, 
I have correct permission for /tmp:
drwxrwxrwt+  23 admin    adminstr    28672 Feb  7 16:40 /tmp

Does anyone experience the same problem w/ xman?

Thanks in advance,
-Alex 


From abraham@backus.com  Sat Feb  8 01:00:00 2003
From: abraham@backus.com (Abraham Backus)
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 01:00:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86 lockup with screensaver
Message-ID: <00c401c2cf0d$6ab02b50$0100a8c0@abackusdell2>

Hello,

I've encountered this once today and a coworker of mine is encountering it
frequenty.  When the windows system goes into screensaver mode and he comes
back, X is locked up and he can't do anything.  He has to forcibly kill the
X processes and restart.  It happens every time for him and I had him do
various things like minimizing and restoring the XFree86 window, as well as
checking with XFree86 in the foreground, background, or minimized.  Also, he
says it happens regardless of which screensaver is selected.

When it happened to me, I noticed that XWin.exe was taking up a considerable
amount of CPU (it was at 100%) from windows task manager.  I haven't been
able to reproduce it since then.

I've searched the mailing list archives and wasn't able to find anything
related to this.  Maybe someone else has encountered this or knows what's
up?

thanks!
-Abe

His box:
Windows 2000 SP3
cygwin-1.3.18-1
fvwm-2.4.7-2
XFree86-base-4.2.0-1
XFree86-bin-4.2.0-2
XFree86-etc-4.2.0-1
XFree86-fenc-4.2.0-2
XFree86-fnts-4.2.0-2
XFree86-lib-4.2.0-3
XFree86-startup-scripts-4.2.0-3
XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-15
X startup parameters: "C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe --login -c startx"

My box:
Windows XP Home SP1
cygwin 1.3.19-1
fvwm-2.4.14-1
XFree86-base-4.2.0-1
XFree86-bin-4.2.0-2
XFree86-etc-4.2.0-1
XFree86-fenc-4.2.0-2
XFree86-fnts-4.2.0-2
XFree86-lib-4.2.0-3
XFree86-man-4.2.0-1
XFree86-prog-4.2.0-1
XFree86-startup-scripts-4.2.0-3
XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-25
X startup parameters: "C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe --login -c
"XWin -rootless -emulate3buttons -clipboard""



From huntharo@msu.edu  Sat Feb  8 01:35:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 01:35:00 -0000
Subject: xman cannot display manpage
In-Reply-To: <1AD1721C5DBBD34CA7721E46C73BD9BF5FFF8F@CASNRM1MSGUSR03.ITServices.sbc.com>
References: <1AD1721C5DBBD34CA7721E46C73BD9BF5FFF8F@CASNRM1MSGUSR03.ITServices.sbc.com>
Message-ID: <3E445EF2.7020309@msu.edu>

I don't think anyone has guaranteed that xman works properly in 
Cygwin/XFree86.  I have launched it a few times and been generally 
disappointed everytime.  Other than that, I haven't really used it.

Someone will have to be annoyned enough with xman to search for the 
problem on their own...

Harold

WU, ALEX (SBCSI) wrote:
> My system is Win2000, running cygwin 1.3.18.
> 
> I could start xman to display the first manpage, but it failed to
> display the next manpage. 
> 
> The symptom is:
> error message displayed in concole: 
> cannot create /tmp/xman002444: permission denied
> 
> xman displays "PleaseStandby" dialog with the following warning message in 
> the xman main window:
> Something went wrong trying to run the command: cd /usr/man; tbl ... | neqn
> | nroff -man > /tmp/xman002444 2> /dev/null
> 
> I checked strace output, it seemed that it did access
> c:\cygwin\tmp\xman002444, 
> I have correct permission for /tmp:
> drwxrwxrwt+  23 admin    adminstr    28672 Feb  7 16:40 /tmp
> 
> Does anyone experience the same problem w/ xman?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> -Alex 


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sat Feb  8 01:38:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 01:38:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86 lockup with screensaver
In-Reply-To: <00c401c2cf0d$6ab02b50$0100a8c0@abackusdell2>
References: <00c401c2cf0d$6ab02b50$0100a8c0@abackusdell2>
Message-ID: <3E445F98.1060005@msu.edu>

The XFree86-4.2.0-23 (Test75) package contained a fix that could be 
related to your coworker's problems:

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/changelog.html

You don't seem to be having as many propblems, so please upgrade your 
coworker to XFree86-4.2.0-25 (the latest release) and see if that helps 
at all.

Let us know how it works,

Harold

Abraham Backus wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've encountered this once today and a coworker of mine is encountering it
> frequenty.  When the windows system goes into screensaver mode and he comes
> back, X is locked up and he can't do anything.  He has to forcibly kill the
> X processes and restart.  It happens every time for him and I had him do
> various things like minimizing and restoring the XFree86 window, as well as
> checking with XFree86 in the foreground, background, or minimized.  Also, he
> says it happens regardless of which screensaver is selected.
> 
> When it happened to me, I noticed that XWin.exe was taking up a considerable
> amount of CPU (it was at 100%) from windows task manager.  I haven't been
> able to reproduce it since then.
> 
> I've searched the mailing list archives and wasn't able to find anything
> related to this.  Maybe someone else has encountered this or knows what's
> up?
> 
> thanks!
> -Abe
> 
> His box:
> Windows 2000 SP3
> cygwin-1.3.18-1
> fvwm-2.4.7-2
> XFree86-base-4.2.0-1
> XFree86-bin-4.2.0-2
> XFree86-etc-4.2.0-1
> XFree86-fenc-4.2.0-2
> XFree86-fnts-4.2.0-2
> XFree86-lib-4.2.0-3
> XFree86-startup-scripts-4.2.0-3
> XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-15
> X startup parameters: "C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe --login -c startx"
> 
> My box:
> Windows XP Home SP1
> cygwin 1.3.19-1
> fvwm-2.4.14-1
> XFree86-base-4.2.0-1
> XFree86-bin-4.2.0-2
> XFree86-etc-4.2.0-1
> XFree86-fenc-4.2.0-2
> XFree86-fnts-4.2.0-2
> XFree86-lib-4.2.0-3
> XFree86-man-4.2.0-1
> XFree86-prog-4.2.0-1
> XFree86-startup-scripts-4.2.0-3
> XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-25
> X startup parameters: "C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe --login -c
> "XWin -rootless -emulate3buttons -clipboard""
> 
> 


From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu  Sat Feb  8 01:44:00 2003
From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski)
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 01:44:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86 lockup with screensaver
In-Reply-To: <00c401c2cf0d$6ab02b50$0100a8c0@abackusdell2>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302072037250.12312-100000@slinky.cs.nyu.edu>

Abe,

Next time this happens, try attaching to the 100% CPU process with strace
(see "strace --help" for options) and see what it's spending its time on.
If it's reproducible for your friend, have him run "xev" while this
happens, and see what events X gets.  It might also be worth it to try the
latest snapshot of Cygwin (although you probably might as well just wait a
bit for 1.3.20 to come out).
	Igor

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Abraham Backus wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I've encountered this once today and a coworker of mine is encountering it
> frequenty.  When the windows system goes into screensaver mode and he comes
> back, X is locked up and he can't do anything.  He has to forcibly kill the
> X processes and restart.  It happens every time for him and I had him do
> various things like minimizing and restoring the XFree86 window, as well as
> checking with XFree86 in the foreground, background, or minimized.  Also, he
> says it happens regardless of which screensaver is selected.
>
> When it happened to me, I noticed that XWin.exe was taking up a considerable
> amount of CPU (it was at 100%) from windows task manager.  I haven't been
> able to reproduce it since then.
>
> I've searched the mailing list archives and wasn't able to find anything
> related to this.  Maybe someone else has encountered this or knows what's
> up?
>
> thanks!
> -Abe
>
> His box:
> Windows 2000 SP3
> cygwin-1.3.18-1
> fvwm-2.4.7-2
> XFree86-base-4.2.0-1
> XFree86-bin-4.2.0-2
> XFree86-etc-4.2.0-1
> XFree86-fenc-4.2.0-2
> XFree86-fnts-4.2.0-2
> XFree86-lib-4.2.0-3
> XFree86-startup-scripts-4.2.0-3
> XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-15
> X startup parameters: "C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe --login -c startx"
>
> My box:
> Windows XP Home SP1
> cygwin 1.3.19-1
> fvwm-2.4.14-1
> XFree86-base-4.2.0-1
> XFree86-bin-4.2.0-2
> XFree86-etc-4.2.0-1
> XFree86-fenc-4.2.0-2
> XFree86-fnts-4.2.0-2
> XFree86-lib-4.2.0-3
> XFree86-man-4.2.0-1
> XFree86-prog-4.2.0-1
> XFree86-startup-scripts-4.2.0-3
> XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-25
> X startup parameters: "C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe --login -c "XWin -rootless -emulate3buttons -clipboard""

-- 
				http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/
      |\      _,,,---,,_		pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu
ZZZzz /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_		igor@watson.ibm.com
     |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'		Igor Pechtchanski
    '---''(_/--'  `-'\_) fL	a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-.  Meow!

Oh, boy, virtual memory! Now I'm gonna make myself a really *big* RAMdisk!
  -- /usr/games/fortune


From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Sat Feb  8 15:30:00 2003
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick)
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 15:30:00 -0000
Subject: numlock
Message-ID: <F91e3nJIxA0hkWNjwzy0000e271@hotmail.com>

Just had a thought.  Make sure NumLock is OFF when you run the 'xmodmap -e 
"clear mod2"' command.  Otherwise, it will get stuck in the ON state.

Also, run xev and hit a keypad key other than NumLock.  If you've properly 
cleared NumLock from the keypad, all numeric keypad keypresses will have a 
state of 0x0 whether NumLock (as indicated by the status light on the 
keyboard itself) is ON or OFF.  Normally you'd get a status of 0x0 when 
NumLock is OFF and 0x10 when NumLock is ON.

>From: "J S" <vervoom@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>Subject: Re: numlock
>Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 09:23:34 +0000
>
>Hi Thomas,
>
>Thanks for your reply. I get the same as you if I run xmodmap -pm. Also if 
>I do: xmodmap -e "clear mod2" that clears mod2, but on the XDM login screen 
>I still can't type any letters.
>
>Here's the value of the NumLock key before clearing mod2:
>
>KeyRelease event, serial 21, synthetic NO, window 0x600001,
>    root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 3663237, (570,393), root:(576,418),
>    state 0x10, keycode 77 (keysym 0xff7f, Num_Lock), same_screen YES,
>    XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""
>
>Here's the value after clearing mod2:
>
>KeyRelease event, serial 21, synthetic NO, window 0x600001,
>    root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 3594839, (105,139), root:(111,164),
>    state 0x10, keycode 77 (keysym 0xff7f, Num_Lock), same_screen YES,
>    XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""
>
>The state value seems to be the same.
>
>JS.
>
>
>>Actually, the instructions were mine, not Harold's (they were in response 
>>to a note from Harold).
>>
>>Try this...
>>
>>Start X without the NumLock modification.  In an xterm, run "xmodmap -pm". 
>>  You should see something that resembles the following:
>>
>>xmodmap:  up to 2 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):
>>
>>shift       Shift_L (0x32),  Shift_R (0x3e)
>>lock        Caps_Lock (0x42)
>>control     Control_L (0x25),  Control_R (0x6d)
>>mod1        Alt_L (0x40),  Alt_R (0x71)
>>mod2        Num_Lock (0x4d)
>>mod3
>>mod4
>>mod5        Scroll_Lock (0x4e)
>>
>>
>>If "Num_Lock" shows up next to something other than mod2, then you'll need 
>>to change what comes after "clear" when you run xmodmap.
>>
>>Alternatively, you might experiment with the following scriptlet which 
>>tries to figure out which mod key is assigned to NumLock...
>>
>>numlock=`xmodmap -pm | grep -i num_lock | awk '{print $1}'`
>>if [ "$numlock" != "" ]
>>then
>>  xmodmap -e "clear $numlock" ${HOME}/.Xmodmap
>>fi
>>
>>
>>Of course, if your NumLock key was already assigned to mod2, then I'm not 
>>sure what's going on.  You might want to experiment with running xev.  If 
>>you've cleared NumLock from the keymap, then the value of "state" inside a 
>>KeyPress/Release event resulting from pressing a key on the numeric keypad 
>>should be 0x0 regardless of whether NumLock is on or off.
>>
>>
>>>From: "J S" <vervoom@hotmail.com>
>>>Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>>>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>>>Subject: numlock Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 10:46:58 +0000
>>>
>>>Is there a way to run XFree with the numlock key on without stopping the 
>>>keys from working? I followed the instructions from Harold's post at:
>>>
>>>http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-06/msg00307.html
>>>
>>>but that solution didn't seem to work for me.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>JS.
>>>
>>>
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Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 15:44:00 -0000
Subject: [MPlayer-dev-eng] packaging cygwin mplayer
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Sat Feb  8 16:10:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 16:10:00 -0000
Subject: [PATCH] default XKB settings 
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302061736590.1337-200000@lupus.ago.vpn>
Message-ID: <NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCCECLDGAA.huntharo@msu.edu>

Alexander,

Patch noted.  Will be in the next Test release.  I don't know for sure when
the next Test release will be, but I will go ahead and release this by
itself if no other patches show up this next week.

Thanks for the good work!

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Alexander Gottwald
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:41 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: [PATCH] default XKB settings
>
>
> Hi,
>
> This is a patch to change the default settings for XKB depending on the
> settings windows reported. I've added the following keyboardtypes
> cz: Czech
> dk: Danish
> de: German (Germany)
> gb: English (United Kingdom)
> es: Spanish (Spain, Traditional Sort)
> fi: Finnish
> fr: French (Standard)
> be: French (Belgian)
> se: Swedish (Sweden)
>
> Harold, can you add this to your builds?
>
> bye
>     ago
>
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>


From aperrier@free.fr  Sun Feb  9 17:46:00 2003
From: aperrier@free.fr (alain perrier)
Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:46:00 -0000
Subject: altGR key problem with windows XP
Message-ID: <3E4694C6.4040609@free.fr>

Hello,

I use the latest version of cygwin and Xfree86 4.2.0-15 with a french
xmodmap on a Windows 2000 Workstation without any problem .
When I try to run the same version ( same xmodmap.fr) on a windows XP
workstation, I can't get any #{[|`\^@]} symbol. I tried
running it with XF86Config-4 unsuccessfuly and definitevely have this
strange problem with AltGr handling... I saw in the mailling list
archive that some people had the same problem near November 2002. Could
anybody give me the rigth way to have AltGR key working ???

Thanks a lot

Alain





From mg@trash.net  Sun Feb  9 17:49:00 2003
From: mg@trash.net (Mathias Gygax)
Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:49:00 -0000
Subject: altGR key problem with windows XP
In-Reply-To: <3E4694C6.4040609@free.fr>
References: <3E4694C6.4040609@free.fr>
Message-ID: <20030209175116.GA3210@zeus.eniac.ch.eu.org>

On Son, Feb 09, 2003 at 06:49:58 +0100, alain perrier wrote:
> Hello,

hello,

> I use the latest version of cygwin and Xfree86 4.2.0-15 with a french
> xmodmap on a Windows 2000 Workstation without any problem .
> When I try to run the same version ( same xmodmap.fr) on a windows XP
> workstation, I can't get any #{[|`\^@]} symbol. I tried
> running it with XF86Config-4 unsuccessfuly and definitevely have this
> strange problem with AltGr handling... I saw in the mailling list
> archive that some people had the same problem near November 2002. Could
> anybody give me the rigth way to have AltGR key working ???

try the 

	Option		"XkbVariant"	"nodeadkeys"

option in XFree86-4 config. xmodmap is obsolete as of the release of
xfree4.x

HTH

 - regards, turrican


From spetreolle@yahoo.fr  Sun Feb  9 18:02:00 2003
From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=)
Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:02:00 -0000
Subject: Time to update the docu for XF86Config ?
Message-ID: <20030209180225.68253.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com>

Reading two last posts about keyboard,
I see that docu about XF86Config is not online.

In fact the relevant section pretends we dont have an XF86Config at
all.
See
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-why-no-xf86config
and
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-non-U.S.-keyboard-layout

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From aperrier@free.fr  Sun Feb  9 19:00:00 2003
From: aperrier@free.fr (alain perrier)
Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 19:00:00 -0000
Subject: altGR key problem with windows XP
References: <3E4694C6.4040609@free.fr> <20030209175116.GA3210@zeus.eniac.ch.eu.org>
Message-ID: <3E46A634.8010007@free.fr>

Thanks for your help but XF86Config or xmodmap works fine to map to a 
french keyboard but don't solve the AltGR problem. It seem this problem
was encountered by other people. I found a message thread ont it in 
mailling list archive...

On November 03 , Andreas Schessner wrote :
"I use the X server of Cygwin/XFree86 (XWin) and it is working fine on 
my Windows 2000 Workstation but running the same version on my Notebook 
(Windows XP) causes problems with the AltGr handling.

I've noticed that pressing the AltGr Key produces a
      KeyPress-Control_L
      KeyPress-Mode_switch
      KeyRelease-Control_L
      KeyRelease-Mode_switch
event sequence (see xev output at the end of this mail).

I began to trace the code (winkeybd.c, function winIsFakeCtrl_L) and
found out that on my XP notebook the windows messages VK_CONTROL (the
faked Control_L) and VK_MENU don't have the same timestamp and it is not
always possible to get the following VK_MENU message by issuing the
PeekMessage().
I don't know if this problem is relating to my Notebook (Dell Latitude)
or to Windows XP. Are there other people having the same problems?"

And Harold L Hunt II answered:
"Interesting. I think you may have found the reason (and solution) for 
why a select few users with non-U.S. keyboard layouts are still having 
problems with fake Control_L presses and releases."

Does Harold ( or anybody ) made a patch in the current release to solve 
this problem ? Is there other people still having the same problem?


Mathias Gygax a ??crit:
> On Son, Feb 09, 2003 at 06:49:58 +0100, alain perrier wrote:
> 
>>Hello,
> 
> 
> hello,
> 
> 
>>I use the latest version of cygwin and Xfree86 4.2.0-15 with a french
>>xmodmap on a Windows 2000 Workstation without any problem .
>>When I try to run the same version ( same xmodmap.fr) on a windows XP
>>workstation, I can't get any #{[|`\^@]} symbol. I tried
>>running it with XF86Config-4 unsuccessfuly and definitevely have this
>>strange problem with AltGr handling... I saw in the mailling list
>>archive that some people had the same problem near November 2002. Could
>>anybody give me the rigth way to have AltGR key working ???
> 
> 
> try the 
> 
> 	Option		"XkbVariant"	"nodeadkeys"
> 
> option in XFree86-4 config. xmodmap is obsolete as of the release of
> xfree4.x
> 
> HTH
> 
>  - regards, turrican
> 
> 



From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Feb  9 19:15:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 19:15:00 -0000
Subject: Time to update the docu for XF86Config ?
In-Reply-To: <20030209180225.68253.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030209180225.68253.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E46A8BA.4030605@msu.edu>

Sylvain,

Those sections don't pretend that we don't have XF86Config support, they 
simply have not been updated since 2002-05-26.

The XF86Config support should be generic to XFree86, right?  So we could 
probably point to the XFree86 documentation for XF86Config.  However, I 
hesitate to do this myself because I really struggle trying to write 
documentation for things that I cannot test out on my own.  It is very 
difficult to write when you have no idea what you are writing about and 
cannot verify that it works for yourself.  Thus, I would appreciate it 
if someone would send a patch against the current documentation source 
with updates for XF86Config.  In the worst case, I would appreciate it 
if someone would write a paragraph or two (complete with some links to 
other documentation) that described what users with non-US keyboards 
should do.  I can handle marking that text up to DocBook, but writing it 
on my own will probably continue to be put off.

I am sorry, but I really don't feel qualified to write documentation for 
non-US keyboard users.

Harold

Sylvain Petreolle wrote:
> Reading two last posts about keyboard,
> I see that docu about XF86Config is not online.
> 
> In fact the relevant section pretends we dont have an XF86Config at
> all.
> See
> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-why-no-xf86config
> and
> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-non-U.S.-keyboard-layout
> 
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Feb  9 19:18:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 19:18:00 -0000
Subject: altGR key problem with windows XP
In-Reply-To: <3E46A634.8010007@free.fr>
References: <3E4694C6.4040609@free.fr> <20030209175116.GA3210@zeus.eniac.ch.eu.org> <3E46A634.8010007@free.fr>
Message-ID: <3E46A994.8020301@msu.edu>

Alain,

The problem with Andreas Schessner's patch was that it modified 
functions that were not being compiled in the default build.  I asked 
him where the missing parts of the patch were, but he never responded. 
I don't know if he just gave up or if he realized that his patch maybe 
didn't have the effect that he thought it did.  In any case, we no 
longer have a valid report of that problem... if you can contact Andreas 
Schessner and ask him for the rest of his patch, then perhaps we can get 
somewhere.  Until then, I can only assume that he made some sort of 
mistake and decided to keep quiet about it :)  Seriously, what else can 
I think when someone stops helping to get their patch committed?

Harold


alain perrier wrote:
> Thanks for your help but XF86Config or xmodmap works fine to map to a 
> french keyboard but don't solve the AltGR problem. It seem this problem
> was encountered by other people. I found a message thread ont it in 
> mailling list archive...
> 
> On November 03 , Andreas Schessner wrote :
> "I use the X server of Cygwin/XFree86 (XWin) and it is working fine on 
> my Windows 2000 Workstation but running the same version on my Notebook 
> (Windows XP) causes problems with the AltGr handling.
> 
> I've noticed that pressing the AltGr Key produces a
>      KeyPress-Control_L
>      KeyPress-Mode_switch
>      KeyRelease-Control_L
>      KeyRelease-Mode_switch
> event sequence (see xev output at the end of this mail).
> 
> I began to trace the code (winkeybd.c, function winIsFakeCtrl_L) and
> found out that on my XP notebook the windows messages VK_CONTROL (the
> faked Control_L) and VK_MENU don't have the same timestamp and it is not
> always possible to get the following VK_MENU message by issuing the
> PeekMessage().
> I don't know if this problem is relating to my Notebook (Dell Latitude)
> or to Windows XP. Are there other people having the same problems?"
> 
> And Harold L Hunt II answered:
> "Interesting. I think you may have found the reason (and solution) for 
> why a select few users with non-U.S. keyboard layouts are still having 
> problems with fake Control_L presses and releases."
> 
> Does Harold ( or anybody ) made a patch in the current release to solve 
> this problem ? Is there other people still having the same problem?
> 
> 
> Mathias Gygax a ??crit:
> 
>> On Son, Feb 09, 2003 at 06:49:58 +0100, alain perrier wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> hello,
>>
>>
>>> I use the latest version of cygwin and Xfree86 4.2.0-15 with a french
>>> xmodmap on a Windows 2000 Workstation without any problem .
>>> When I try to run the same version ( same xmodmap.fr) on a windows XP
>>> workstation, I can't get any #{[|`\^@]} symbol. I tried
>>> running it with XF86Config-4 unsuccessfuly and definitevely have this
>>> strange problem with AltGr handling... I saw in the mailling list
>>> archive that some people had the same problem near November 2002. Could
>>> anybody give me the rigth way to have AltGR key working ???
>>
>>
>>
>> try the
>>     Option        "XkbVariant"    "nodeadkeys"
>>
>> option in XFree86-4 config. xmodmap is obsolete as of the release of
>> xfree4.x
>>
>> HTH
>>
>>  - regards, turrican
>>
>>
> 
> 


From aperrier@free.fr  Sun Feb  9 20:12:00 2003
From: aperrier@free.fr (alain perrier)
Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 20:12:00 -0000
Subject: altGR key problem with windows XP
References: <3E4694C6.4040609@free.fr> <20030209175116.GA3210@zeus.eniac.ch.eu.org> <3E46A634.8010007@free.fr> <3E46A994.8020301@msu.edu>
Message-ID: <3E46B6F3.8030603@free.fr>

Harold,

Thank for your answer, I will try to contact Andreas. In very few case, 
I get the pipe symbol or other and I think this is a key timing problem 
like reported by Andreas, but perhaps this trouble is due to some 
keyboard or system.  I will try at my office on another XP machine... I 
use cygwin at home and at work, it's very important for me and I'll keep 
you informed trying to do a usefull report...

XF86 documentation:
I found some informations on XF86Config and xmodmap for non US keyboard 
on the following link:
http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/?jump=xfree

Perhaps you could ask the author to add this link in Xfree86 faq as a 
first help for non US keyboard users.

Alain

Harold L Hunt II a ??crit:
> Alain,
> 
> The problem with Andreas Schessner's patch was that it modified 
> functions that were not being compiled in the default build.  I asked 
> him where the missing parts of the patch were, but he never responded. I 
> don't know if he just gave up or if he realized that his patch maybe 
> didn't have the effect that he thought it did.  In any case, we no 
> longer have a valid report of that problem... if you can contact Andreas 
> Schessner and ask him for the rest of his patch, then perhaps we can get 
> somewhere.  Until then, I can only assume that he made some sort of 
> mistake and decided to keep quiet about it :)  Seriously, what else can 
> I think when someone stops helping to get their patch committed?
> 
> Harold
> 
> 



From colin.harrison@virgin.net  Sun Feb  9 20:20:00 2003
From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (Colin Harrison)
Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 20:20:00 -0000
Subject: Minimum functionality for XWin
Message-ID: <000001c2d078$b4577a80$0200a8c0@STRAIGHTRUNNING.COM>

Hi,

As an exercise in minimalism (cygwin in full is now nearly as big as a 
'reasonable' Linux installation!) I have cut down the installed software to
give a XWin server
for remote XDMCP (KDE login to redhat 8.0 and 7.3 servers)
and (using PuTTY as ssh client) to display 'windows framed' X windows on a
XP Pro (SP1) client.
I have managed to get the size of the cygwin installation down to ~20MB (+
PuTTY ~1.8MB).
This includes the 'core' set of fonts and XKB (for gb keyboard in my case).

Directory contents are 
cygwin/bin:-
cygwin1.dll  cygz.dll  sh.exe

cygwin/etc/X11
XF86Config  xkb(dir)

cygwin/usr/X11R6/bin:-
libX11.dll  libXmuu.dll  multixwin.bat  XWin.exe  xsetroot.exe

cygwin/usr/X11R6/lib/X11
fonts(dir)  locale(dir)  rgb.txt  xkb

And that?s about all you need! OK if I want to do Unix stuff 'directly' on
my Windows
machine I can't..but I already have linux to work with elsewhere. As a
remote admin. system (KVM substitute?)
it can't be beat.

I'll provide more details (of my hack!) if anyone interested!

Thanks for a great product (especially XWin -multiwindow -clipboard)

Colin


From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Sun Feb  9 20:30:00 2003
From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 20:30:00 -0000
Subject: Minimum functionality for XWin
In-Reply-To: <000001c2d078$b4577a80$0200a8c0@STRAIGHTRUNNING.COM>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302092128470.2694-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>

Colin Harrison wrote:

> This includes the 'core' set of fonts 

You can skip this too if you setup a font server on the remote machine. Most 
likely the font server is already installed. 
Try XWin -fp tcp/remotehost:7100

bye
    ago
NP: Silke Bischoff - Blues Eyes
-- 
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From colin.harrison@virgin.net  Sun Feb  9 21:08:00 2003
From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (Colin Harrison)
Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 21:08:00 -0000
Subject: Minimum functionality for XWin
Message-ID: <000001c2d07f$7524df90$0200a8c0@STRAIGHTRUNNING.COM>

Hi

Nice one ... got the total cygwin size down to ~3MB (from ~20MB)

(Once I got my remote xfs server to accept tcp listens!)

Colin


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From cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Feb 10 18:03:00 2003
From: cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:03:00 -0000
Subject: xfs corrupt
In-Reply-To: <D30121FCD4ADD51181D10002A587391687DAFC@M0000S0E>
References: <D30121FCD4ADD51181D10002A587391687DAFC@M0000S0E>
Message-ID: <20030210180449.GB9777@redhat.com>

On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 05:44:09PM +0100, "Preu?, J?rgen" wrote:
>Hi Readers,
>
>I'm trying to use XFree86/cygwin with fontserver. I've found it unusable.
>
>Starting xfs from bash console gives
>
>	$ xfs
>	_FontTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.font-unix should be set to root
>	_FontTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed
>	_FontTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running
>	xfs notice: listening on port 7100
>	xfs error: Cannot establish any listening sockets
>	Aborted (core dumped)
>
>Using of external xfs (Linux, Solaris, HP-UX) makes the GUI blocking without
>recovery. I used the command "xset +fp tcp/<host>:<port>".
>
>So it seems to be an more xfs-library-related problem.
>
>I don't hope to be an victim of the crippled/reduced IP-Stack on WinNT 4.0 +
>SP5.
>
>Thanks in advance for your hints + fixes.

One hint might be that you should use the appropriate mailing list for
Cygwin/XFree86 questions - cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com .

Redirected.

cgf


From Juergen.Preuss@izb.de  Mon Feb 10 18:26:00 2003
From: Juergen.Preuss@izb.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Preu=DF=2C_J=FCrgen=22?=)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:26:00 -0000
Subject: AW: xfs corrupt
Message-ID: <D30121FCD4ADD51181D10002A587391687DB00@M0000S0E>

Ok, thanks for your hints. 

But I was a bit confused on the webpages, it was not clear for me from
naming convention. But now I'm looking forward, where the mistake really
resides.

Thanks for your reply.

With regards,

Juergen

> ----------
> Von: 	Christopher Faylor[SMTP:cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com]
> Antwort an: 	cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Gesendet: 	Montag, 10. Februar 2003 19:04
> An: 	Preu?, J?rgen
> Cc: 	cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Betreff: 	Re: xfs corrupt
> 
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 05:44:09PM +0100, "Preu?, J?rgen" wrote:
> >Hi Readers,
> >
> >I'm trying to use XFree86/cygwin with fontserver. I've found it unusable.
> >
> >Starting xfs from bash console gives
> >
> >	$ xfs
> >	_FontTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.font-unix should be set to root
> >	_FontTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed
> >	_FontTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running
> >	xfs notice: listening on port 7100
> >	xfs error: Cannot establish any listening sockets
> >	Aborted (core dumped)
> >
> >Using of external xfs (Linux, Solaris, HP-UX) makes the GUI blocking
> without
> >recovery. I used the command "xset +fp tcp/<host>:<port>".
> >
> >So it seems to be an more xfs-library-related problem.
> >
> >I don't hope to be an victim of the crippled/reduced IP-Stack on WinNT
> 4.0 +
> >SP5.
> >
> >Thanks in advance for your hints + fixes.
> 
> One hint might be that you should use the appropriate mailing list for
> Cygwin/XFree86 questions - cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com .
> 
> Redirected.
> 
> cgf
> 


From eric_a_benson@yahoo.com  Tue Feb 11 00:02:00 2003
From: eric_a_benson@yahoo.com (Eric Benson)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 00:02:00 -0000
Subject: Resize problem with xemacs on XWin-Test77 -multiwindow
Message-ID: <20030211000228.48192.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com>

I'm running XWin-Test77 using the -multiwindow
feature. I can't seem to resize XEmacs's windows. This
is true when running XEmacs 21.4.8 displaying remotely
from a Red Hat 8.0 machine or running XEmacs 21.4.12
running locally compiled under Cygwin. It's easy to
reproduce:

start XWin -multiwindow
start xemacs
try to resize your xemacs window
you'll see that it always snaps back to its original
size.

I haven't had trouble resizing any other applications'
windows, and I haven't had any trouble resizing xemacs
windows when using icewm in Cygwin/XFree86 instead of
XWin's builtin -multiwindow window manager functionality.

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From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Feb 11 00:09:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 00:09:00 -0000
Subject: Resize problem with xemacs on XWin-Test77 -multiwindow [Kensuke
 please respond]
In-Reply-To: <20030211000228.48192.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030211000228.48192.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E483F1C.1000706@msu.edu>

Eric,

Kensuke, the author of the multi-window mode, will have to take a look 
at this.

Thanks for the report,

Harold

Eric Benson wrote:
> I'm running XWin-Test77 using the -multiwindow
> feature. I can't seem to resize XEmacs's windows. This
> is true when running XEmacs 21.4.8 displaying remotely
> from a Red Hat 8.0 machine or running XEmacs 21.4.12
> running locally compiled under Cygwin. It's easy to
> reproduce:
> 
> start XWin -multiwindow
> start xemacs
> try to resize your xemacs window
> you'll see that it always snaps back to its original
> size.
> 
> I haven't had trouble resizing any other applications'
> windows, and I haven't had any trouble resizing xemacs
> windows when using icewm in Cygwin/XFree86 instead of
> XWin's builtin -multiwindow window manager functionality.
> 
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From vervoom@hotmail.com  Tue Feb 11 21:04:00 2003
From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:04:00 -0000
Subject: multiwindow mode 
Message-ID: <F90d7ncY2Wag3nog1R70001753c@hotmail.com>

I've started to find that a lot of the X apps we use in our company actually 
work better in multiwindow mode.

For example, one application we have was practically unusable before because 
some of the pop up windows it opened were greater in size than the desktop, 
and these windows didn't have scrollbars either. Despite changing the window 
properties in my window manager (windowmaker) they still got oversized.

Now with multiwindow mode, the window behaviour is much better. Can someone 
explain that to me please?! What makes me slightly nervous though is that so 
many of my customers want to use multiwindow mode yet this is still 
relatively new and development on it seems to have slowed down recently.

Anyway the main reason I've written is because in multiwindow mode the  
window resizing doesn't always work as expected, and also I have one 
particular problem where the window menu bars (on the pop up windows) are 
placed just above the desktop so I have to resize the window to get at them. 
Has anyone else seen that? Would really like to get a fix for that if anyone 
can help.

Thanks,

JS.

Is this the impression you get that most xfree users now are running in 
multiwindow mode? Also is there still development going on with multiwindows 
mode or has that come to a halt for some reason now? I only ask since I 
haven't seen quite so many emails on it lately.

JS.





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From clewis@mobilecom.com  Tue Feb 11 21:29:00 2003
From: clewis@mobilecom.com (Cary Lewis)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:29:00 -0000
Subject: FW: file manager xfm, or similar for xfree86 under cygwin
Message-ID: <3E2D8043936AD611AF7D00508B5E9F4B30D0A3@server3.mobilecom.com>

Hello, I am trying to locate a graphical file manager for Xfree86 running
under cygwin

 

I have tried to compile xfm 1.4.3 and got it working under xfree86 under
cygwin, but it does not allow access to non cygwin directories.

 

It complains saying Directory is Unreadable.

 

/cygdrive doesn't show up in the root, so I created a symlink with:

 

ln -s /cygdrive/c /cygdrivec

 

I'm guessing it has trouble following a symlink from /cydrivec to
/cygdrive/c/

 

Can anyone suggest a working file manager?

 

Thanks.

 

If anyone wants the Imake.options I can post or email.

 

Does anyone know where I can find a compiled binary for xfm or a similar
client.

 

I don't want to have to install the kde files or xfce.

 

My plan is to use cygwin / xfree86 via ssh to do remote support of windows
machines.

 

Thanks for any help.

 


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Feb 11 22:25:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:25:00 -0000
Subject: multiwindow mode
In-Reply-To: <F90d7ncY2Wag3nog1R70001753c@hotmail.com>
References: <F90d7ncY2Wag3nog1R70001753c@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3E497839.4020100@msu.edu>

JS,

Applications can have problems reading information about the screen size 
(which comes from the X Server itself) or understanding the Window 
Manager hints about the size of the window borders, etc.  Those problems 
could be because the author of those applications did not pay enough 
attention to making sure that their app works with multiple X Servers 
and Window Manager; rather, they may have checked it with one X Server 
and with one Window Manager and just assumed that they implemetned 
everything correctly.  Thus, certain X Server and certain Window 
Managers may exhibit problems in the application that are not apparent 
on other platforms.

With all of that being said, it is also entirely possible that there is 
something wrong with Cygwin/XFree86's X Server or with our Multi-Window 
Window Manager.

The Multi-Window Window Manager (MWWM) was developed by Kensuke 
Matsuzaki.  I have no idea what his schedule is like, but I know that he 
said he could not finish the entire MWWM on his own and that he would 
appreciate some help.

I would not say that the MWWM is done by any means.  I would also not 
assume that most users are using it since the default startup scripts do 
not use invoke it.  I cannot switch us to using the MWWM until someone 
sits down with the code and is able to tell me that it implements most 
of what a window manager should implement.  I am thinking mostly about 
window manager hints here; I don't think the MWWM implements them at 
all, though I could be mistaken.

You mention that you have customers.  Having customers implies to me 
that it might be worth *your* while to spend a little of your own time 
on the MWWM.  Think about it, if you are going to benefit from the MWWM 
being more stable, then shouldn't you be contributing to making it more 
stable?  On the other hand, you could contact Kensuke and see if he will 
setup a tip jar so that you (or anyone else) can donate some money to 
him to encourage him to work on the MWWM.  The current list of 
Cygwin/XFree86 developers with a donations page is at:

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/donations.html

However, I am currently the only developer that has setup such a page. 
I strongly recommend that people ask Kensuke to setup a tip jar.

Well, I hope that helps.  I could give you one of my old analogies about 
how I am not going to drop my beer to run inside and code on 
Cygwin/XFree86, but I think you get the point that not much is going to 
happen unless people make it happen.

Harold

J S wrote:
> I've started to find that a lot of the X apps we use in our company 
> actually work better in multiwindow mode.
> 
> For example, one application we have was practically unusable before 
> because some of the pop up windows it opened were greater in size than 
> the desktop, and these windows didn't have scrollbars either. Despite 
> changing the window properties in my window manager (windowmaker) they 
> still got oversized.
> 
> Now with multiwindow mode, the window behaviour is much better. Can 
> someone explain that to me please?! What makes me slightly nervous 
> though is that so many of my customers want to use multiwindow mode yet 
> this is still relatively new and development on it seems to have slowed 
> down recently.
> 
> Anyway the main reason I've written is because in multiwindow mode the  
> window resizing doesn't always work as expected, and also I have one 
> particular problem where the window menu bars (on the pop up windows) 
> are placed just above the desktop so I have to resize the window to get 
> at them. Has anyone else seen that? Would really like to get a fix for 
> that if anyone can help.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> JS.
> 
> Is this the impression you get that most xfree users now are running in 
> multiwindow mode? Also is there still development going on with 
> multiwindows mode or has that come to a halt for some reason now? I only 
> ask since I haven't seen quite so many emails on it lately.
> 
> JS.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> http://messenger.msn.co.uk
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From Vince.Hoffman@uk.circle.com  Tue Feb 11 23:34:00 2003
From: Vince.Hoffman@uk.circle.com (Vince Hoffman)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 23:34:00 -0000
Subject: file manager xfm, or similar for xfree86 under cygwin
Message-ID: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA37955014BD863@EX-LONDON>

out of interest what happens if you "mount c: /cygdrivec" ?  (ie can it
handle mount points rather than symlinks) 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cary Lewis [mailto:clewis@mobilecom.com]
> Sent: 11 February 2003 21:29
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: FW: file manager xfm, or similar for xfree86 under cygwin
> 
> 
> Hello, I am trying to locate a graphical file manager for 
> Xfree86 running
> under cygwin
> 
>  
> 
> I have tried to compile xfm 1.4.3 and got it working under 
> xfree86 under
> cygwin, but it does not allow access to non cygwin directories.
> 
>  
> 
> It complains saying Directory is Unreadable.
> 
>  
> 
> /cygdrive doesn't show up in the root, so I created a symlink with:
> 
>  
> 
> ln -s /cygdrive/c /cygdrivec
> 
>  
> 
> I'm guessing it has trouble following a symlink from /cydrivec to
> /cygdrive/c/
> 
>  
> 
> Can anyone suggest a working file manager?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>  
> 
> If anyone wants the Imake.options I can post or email.
> 
>  
> 
> Does anyone know where I can find a compiled binary for xfm 
> or a similar
> client.
> 
>  
> 
> I don't want to have to install the kde files or xfce.
> 
>  
> 
> My plan is to use cygwin / xfree86 via ssh to do remote 
> support of windows
> machines.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
>  
> 


From hzhr@linuxforum.net  Wed Feb 12 00:43:00 2003
From: hzhr@linuxforum.net (David Huang)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 00:43:00 -0000
Subject: FW: file manager xfm, or similar for xfree86 under cygwin
In-Reply-To: <3E2D8043936AD611AF7D00508B5E9F4B30D0A3@server3.mobilecom.com>
References: <3E2D8043936AD611AF7D00508B5E9F4B30D0A3@server3.mobilecom.com>
Message-ID: <3E499998.2060405@linuxforum.net>

Cary Lewis write:
> Hello, I am trying to locate a graphical file manager for Xfree86 running
> under cygwin
> 
>  
> 
> I have tried to compile xfm 1.4.3 and got it working under xfree86 under
> cygwin, but it does not allow access to non cygwin directories.
> 
>  
> 
> It complains saying Directory is Unreadable.
> 
>  
> 
> /cygdrive doesn't show up in the root, so I created a symlink with:
Why not create a dir /cygdrive? ls /cygdrive will show all c, d, e... drivers.
And I create a dir /dev, link cdrom to scd0, then use /dev/cdrom I have raw access
to the first CD-ROM.
> 
>  
> 
> ln -s /cygdrive/c /cygdrivec
> 
>  
> 
> I'm guessing it has trouble following a symlink from /cydrivec to
> /cygdrive/c/
> 
>  
> 
> Can anyone suggest a working file manager?
I use xfce.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>  
> 
> If anyone wants the Imake.options I can post or email.
> 
>  
> 
> Does anyone know where I can find a compiled binary for xfm or a similar
> client.
> 
>  
> 
> I don't want to have to install the kde files or xfce.
> 
>  
> 
> My plan is to use cygwin / xfree86 via ssh to do remote support of windows
> machines.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
>  
> 
> 







From imaq@21cn.com  Wed Feb 12 12:58:00 2003
From: imaq@21cn.com (=?GB2312?Q?=B0=A2=B9=F3?=)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:58:00 -0000
Subject: FW: file manager xfm, or similar for xfree86 under cygwin
Message-ID: <vK969787789072.15383@send5.inner-21cn.com>

Hi, Cary,

>Hello, I am trying to locate a graphical file manager for Xfree86 running
>under cygwin
>
>I have tried to compile xfm 1.4.3 and got it working under xfree86 under
>cygwin, but it does not allow access to non cygwin directories.
>
>It complains saying Directory is Unreadable.
>
>/cygdrive doesn't show up in the root, so I created a symlink with:
>
>
>ln -s /cygdrive/c /cygdrivec
>
>
>I'm guessing it has trouble following a symlink from /cydrivec to
>/cygdrive/c/
>
> 
>
>Can anyone suggest a working file manager?
>
You may try gnome-commander, if you like the style of NC and MC (like me, but I can't bare gmc :-).
You can find gnome-commander-0.9.8 for Cygwin GNOME at http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/cygnome
But this will pull in a lot of GNOME libraries. 
At least you need the cygnome-libs-1.4b1-3, gnome-vfs-1.0.5-patch package.
Read more info on intallation at http://cygnome.sourceforge.net/install.html.

> 
>
>Thanks.
>
> 
>
>If anyone wants the Imake.options I can post or email.
>
> 
>
>Does anyone know where I can find a compiled binary for xfm or a similar
>client.
>
> 
>
>I don't want to have to install the kde files or xfce.
>
> 
>
>My plan is to use cygwin / xfree86 via ssh to do remote support of windows
>machines.
>
> 
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
> 

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =



From samir.gupta@Barra.COM  Wed Feb 12 17:50:00 2003
From: samir.gupta@Barra.COM (Samir Gupta)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 17:50:00 -0000
Subject: Using Multiple X Windows
Message-ID: <5A1F6B8E14097144AF309F36A29327220F7209@iris.win.barra.com>

Hello,

I have a question which I could not find the answer to in searching the
archives...

I am trying to make window management in cygwin/xfree the same way I have it
set up in exceed.  I start up tcsh in exceed with my xterm command which
opens up an x window with the tcsh prompt.  From this prompt, every time I
type "emacs &", it will bring up a new xwindow with the emacs program.

I cannot figure out how to do this in cygwin/xfree.  From my tcsh prompt, I
type "xwin" to start the xfree window.  Now, every time I type "emacs &", it
opens up an emacs in the same xfree window.  I am wondering how I can get it
to open up a separate xfree window each time I type "emacs &" as I can in
exceed?

I tried messing around with the xwin -screen option, but I could not come up
with anything...

Thanks



From agrimm@redwood.rsc.raytheon.com  Wed Feb 12 18:14:00 2003
From: agrimm@redwood.rsc.raytheon.com (Andrew Grimm)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 18:14:00 -0000
Subject: problem with XFree86-bin-4.2.0-2
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302121052360.6573-100000@dragon>

Actually it is a very minor sort of problem, but a bug nonetheless.

The csh startup script /etc/profile.d/00xfree.csh is usually sourced
before the shell has a complete path.  This is the case for the stock
Cygwin tcsh install.  However, the "path adding" script does not use full
pathnames for system executables.  The sh version /etc/profile.d/00xfree.sh
does use full pathnames (I guess most testing defaulted to bash).

Taking a min-mods approach /etc/profile.d/00xfree.csh should be altered to
look this way:

----------
# the script name starts with 00 to ensure that it is executed before any
# other scripts because one of them may need to know where X is to run
# properly.

set X11PATH="/usr/X11R6/bin"

if ( $?PATH ) then
  eval "/bin/echo ${PATH} | /bin/grep -q ${X11PATH}"
  if ( $status ) then
    setenv PATH "${PATH}:${X11PATH}"
  endif
else
  setenv PATH ":${X11PATH}"
endif
----------

This incorporates two changes.  The first is to use full pathnames just as
/etc/profile.d/00xfree.sh does.  (Note that this is not really needed for
echo as the shell builtin works fine but it's good practice to have both
shell scripts function as identically as possible.)  The second is to use
$status as $? only exists in tcsh, and in theory this script should be
csh-compatible.

Without this change, the script fails to operate correctly under tcsh.
Many people use tcsh instead of bash so it is probably a worthwhile fix.

-Andy

PS.  Sorry to have written so many words about such a simple thing =)


From kirschpe@utrc.utc.com  Wed Feb 12 19:16:00 2003
From: kirschpe@utrc.utc.com (Paul Kirschner)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 19:16:00 -0000
Subject: multiple xpm instances
Message-ID: <200302121416.31483.kirschpe@utrc.utc.com>

In compiling an X11 application I found multiple instances of xpm. One
version comes from XFree86-prog-4.2.0-1 (dated 1/21/2002 and in
/usr/X11R6/{lib,include}) and the other from xpm-4.0.0-2 (dated 12/8/2000
and in /usr/{lib,include)). "cygcheck -c" shows the xpm installation. (I
also have the xpm-nox version installed which is OK.)

Is the XFree86-prog the "correct" version to use? Should I remove the older
one? How do I remove it properly?

thanks...

-- 

Paul Kirschner                            #include <disclaimer.std>
Systems Department
United Technologies Research Center
kirschpe@utrc.utc.com
(860)610-7119


From andrew.markebo@telia.com  Wed Feb 12 21:04:00 2003
From: andrew.markebo@telia.com (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:04:00 -0000
Subject: multiple xpm instances
References: <200302121416.31483.kirschpe@utrc.utc.com>
Message-ID: <m3of5hdy5o.fsf@telia.com>

/ Paul Kirschner <kirschpe@utrc.utc.com> wrote:
| In compiling an X11 application I found multiple instances of xpm. One
| version comes from XFree86-prog-4.2.0-1 (dated 1/21/2002 and in
| /usr/X11R6/{lib,include}) and the other from xpm-4.0.0-2 (dated 12/8/2000
| and in /usr/{lib,include)). "cygcheck -c" shows the xpm installation. (I
| also have the xpm-nox version installed which is OK.)
|
| Is the XFree86-prog the "correct" version to use? Should I remove the older
| one? How do I remove it properly?

I suppose it is the package "xpm-nox" you see in /usr, basically a
version not needing X, and is provided if you just need to do some
conversions (is it gs?) and don't want the X-servers..

How to remove it.. uninstall it through setup :-) Hmm weird that it
isn't updated, there seems to be a 4.2.0 'out'.

    /Andy

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From KirschPE@UTRCCT.res.utc.com  Wed Feb 12 21:25:00 2003
From: KirschPE@UTRCCT.res.utc.com (Kirschner, Paul E.        UTRC)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:25:00 -0000
Subject: multiple xpm instances
Message-ID: <62835D8790DBD111981100805FA7E4C405605A50@EXPRESS1>


The xpm package I have is NOT listed in the setup (so I cannot uninstall or
reinstall from there). It is NOT listed as part of the xpm-nox package.

Could it be a remnant from the pre-cygwin setup days when we separately
downloaded tgz files for scripted installs?

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Markebo [mailto:andrew.markebo@telia.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:47 PM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: multiple xpm instances


/ Paul Kirschner <kirschpe@utrc.utc.com> wrote:
| In compiling an X11 application I found multiple instances of xpm. One
| version comes from XFree86-prog-4.2.0-1 (dated 1/21/2002 and in
| /usr/X11R6/{lib,include}) and the other from xpm-4.0.0-2 (dated 12/8/2000
| and in /usr/{lib,include)). "cygcheck -c" shows the xpm installation. (I
| also have the xpm-nox version installed which is OK.)
|
| Is the XFree86-prog the "correct" version to use? Should I remove the
older
| one? How do I remove it properly?

I suppose it is the package "xpm-nox" you see in /usr, basically a
version not needing X, and is provided if you just need to do some
conversions (is it gs?) and don't want the X-servers..

How to remove it.. uninstall it through setup :-) Hmm weird that it
isn't updated, there seems to be a 4.2.0 'out'.

    /Andy

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From abraverman@itms.com  Wed Feb 12 21:34:00 2003
From: abraverman@itms.com (Andrew Braverman)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:34:00 -0000
Subject: Using Multiple X Windows
In-Reply-To: <5A1F6B8E14097144AF309F36A29327220F7209@iris.win.barra.com>
Message-ID: <001701c2d2de$7d0cd1c0$1e54cea7@andrew>


Though I do not use emacs, I have used exceed.  What I think is happening is
that you are not correctly setting your DISPLAY variable.  From what I am
told, if you have no DISPLAY set, emacs starts as a standard app in the
terminal it is in.  If it is set, emacs starts as an X app.  Exceed sets
this variable when it starts up the first window.  From what I can tell,
xfree does not.  What happens if you set an appropriate DISPLAY and then run
emacs& ?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Samir Gupta [mailto:samir.gupta@Barra.COM]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 12:50 PM
> To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
> Subject: Using Multiple X Windows
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a question which I could not find the answer to in
> searching the
> archives...
>
> I am trying to make window management in cygwin/xfree the
> same way I have it
> set up in exceed.  I start up tcsh in exceed with my xterm
> command which
> opens up an x window with the tcsh prompt.  From this prompt,
> every time I
> type "emacs &", it will bring up a new xwindow with the emacs program.
>
> I cannot figure out how to do this in cygwin/xfree.  From my
> tcsh prompt, I
> type "xwin" to start the xfree window.  Now, every time I
> type "emacs &", it
> opens up an emacs in the same xfree window.  I am wondering
> how I can get it
> to open up a separate xfree window each time I type "emacs &"
> as I can in
> exceed?
>
> I tried messing around with the xwin -screen option, but I
> could not come up
> with anything...
>
> Thanks
>
>
>



From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Feb 12 22:03:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:03:00 -0000
Subject: Using Multiple X Windows
In-Reply-To: <5A1F6B8E14097144AF309F36A29327220F7209@iris.win.barra.com>
References: <5A1F6B8E14097144AF309F36A29327220F7209@iris.win.barra.com>
Message-ID: <3E4AC4B1.4000703@msu.edu>

Remove all other command line parameters for XWin.exe, and add the 
single command line parameter "-multiwindow".  This is not documented 
because this feature is not considered completely stable.  Also, the 
documentation simply has not been written yet.

Harold

Samir Gupta wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have a question which I could not find the answer to in searching the
> archives...
> 
> I am trying to make window management in cygwin/xfree the same way I have it
> set up in exceed.  I start up tcsh in exceed with my xterm command which
> opens up an x window with the tcsh prompt.  From this prompt, every time I
> type "emacs &", it will bring up a new xwindow with the emacs program.
> 
> I cannot figure out how to do this in cygwin/xfree.  From my tcsh prompt, I
> type "xwin" to start the xfree window.  Now, every time I type "emacs &", it
> opens up an emacs in the same xfree window.  I am wondering how I can get it
> to open up a separate xfree window each time I type "emacs &" as I can in
> exceed?
> 
> I tried messing around with the xwin -screen option, but I could not come up
> with anything...
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Feb 12 22:05:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:05:00 -0000
Subject: problem with XFree86-bin-4.2.0-2
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302121052360.6573-100000@dragon>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302121052360.6573-100000@dragon>
Message-ID: <3E4AC523.8040703@msu.edu>

Andrew,

Thanks for the report.

People have reported this to me before, but I keep forgetting to fix the 
problem and release a new package.

Please email me again if I have not taken care of it in four days, in 
which case I probably will have forgotten again.

Thanks again,

Harold

Andrew Grimm wrote:
> Actually it is a very minor sort of problem, but a bug nonetheless.
> 
> The csh startup script /etc/profile.d/00xfree.csh is usually sourced
> before the shell has a complete path.  This is the case for the stock
> Cygwin tcsh install.  However, the "path adding" script does not use full
> pathnames for system executables.  The sh version /etc/profile.d/00xfree.sh
> does use full pathnames (I guess most testing defaulted to bash).
> 
> Taking a min-mods approach /etc/profile.d/00xfree.csh should be altered to
> look this way:
> 
> ----------
> # the script name starts with 00 to ensure that it is executed before any
> # other scripts because one of them may need to know where X is to run
> # properly.
> 
> set X11PATH="/usr/X11R6/bin"
> 
> if ( $?PATH ) then
>   eval "/bin/echo ${PATH} | /bin/grep -q ${X11PATH}"
>   if ( $status ) then
>     setenv PATH "${PATH}:${X11PATH}"
>   endif
> else
>   setenv PATH ":${X11PATH}"
> endif
> ----------
> 
> This incorporates two changes.  The first is to use full pathnames just as
> /etc/profile.d/00xfree.sh does.  (Note that this is not really needed for
> echo as the shell builtin works fine but it's good practice to have both
> shell scripts function as identically as possible.)  The second is to use
> $status as $? only exists in tcsh, and in theory this script should be
> csh-compatible.
> 
> Without this change, the script fails to operate correctly under tcsh.
> Many people use tcsh instead of bash so it is probably a worthwhile fix.
> 
> -Andy
> 
> PS.  Sorry to have written so many words about such a simple thing =)
> 


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Feb 12 22:07:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:07:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Test77 multiwindow mouse weirdness
Message-ID: <3E4AC595.2030204@msu.edu>

Here is a message from Piers Haken reporting a problem with mutliwindow 
mode.  His emails get bounced because Exchange insists on munging his email.

Harold

 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Piers Haken
 > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:22 PM
 > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
 > Subject: Test77 multiwindow mouse weirdness
 >
 >
 > I'm seeing some weirdness with the mouse cursor in Test77's multiwindow
 > mode.
 >
 > Note: I have my windows taskbar attached to the left-hand edge of the
 > screen instead of the bottom.
 >
 > Here's how to see what I'm seeing:
 > 1) install test77
 > 2) unlock the taskbar.
 > 3) dock the taskbar to the left-hand side of the screen
 > 4) run 'XWin-Test77 -multiwindow'
 > 5) open an xterm
 > 6) look at the position of the xterm window.
 > 7) now click on the 'Cygwin/XFree86 rl' window so the root is visible.
 >         Notice how the position of the xterm window is different
 > depending on whether or not the root window is shown. When the root
 > window is shown the xterm jumps to the right exactly by the width of the
 > taskbar.
 >
 > 8) while the root window is on top, move the mouse around.
 >         Notice that the mouse cursor occasionally jumps to the right,
 > again by the same amount as the width of the taskbar.
 >
 > 9) show both the root window AND the xterm, so the multiwindow xterm
 > with the windows decorations is on top of the root window.
 >
 >         Notice that the two versions of the xterm window do not line up.
 >
 > I know this isn't a very common or very severe bug but it does seem to
 > indicate an underlying problem in the calculation of the desktop
 > bounding rectangle. Perhaps you're assuming, incorrectly in general,
 > that the desktop starts at (0,0)?
 >
 > Piers.
 >


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Feb 12 22:08:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:08:00 -0000
Subject: multiple xpm instances
In-Reply-To: <62835D8790DBD111981100805FA7E4C405605A50@EXPRESS1>
References: <62835D8790DBD111981100805FA7E4C405605A50@EXPRESS1>
Message-ID: <3E4AC5F6.7020600@msu.edu>

Paul,

Good theory.  I think that if you have been around since the pre-setup 
days then it is most likely a left-over binary.

Harold

Kirschner, Paul E. UTRC wrote:
> The xpm package I have is NOT listed in the setup (so I cannot uninstall or
> reinstall from there). It is NOT listed as part of the xpm-nox package.
> 
> Could it be a remnant from the pre-cygwin setup days when we separately
> downloaded tgz files for scripted installs?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Markebo [mailto:andrew.markebo@telia.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:47 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: multiple xpm instances
> 
> 
> / Paul Kirschner <kirschpe@utrc.utc.com> wrote:
> | In compiling an X11 application I found multiple instances of xpm. One
> | version comes from XFree86-prog-4.2.0-1 (dated 1/21/2002 and in
> | /usr/X11R6/{lib,include}) and the other from xpm-4.0.0-2 (dated 12/8/2000
> | and in /usr/{lib,include)). "cygcheck -c" shows the xpm installation. (I
> | also have the xpm-nox version installed which is OK.)
> |
> | Is the XFree86-prog the "correct" version to use? Should I remove the
> older
> | one? How do I remove it properly?
> 
> I suppose it is the package "xpm-nox" you see in /usr, basically a
> version not needing X, and is provided if you just need to do some
> conversions (is it gs?) and don't want the X-servers..
> 
> How to remove it.. uninstall it through setup :-) Hmm weird that it
> isn't updated, there seems to be a 4.2.0 'out'.
> 
>     /Andy
> 


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Feb 12 22:13:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:13:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Test77 multiwindow mouse weirdness
In-Reply-To: <3E4AC595.2030204@msu.edu>
References: <3E4AC595.2030204@msu.edu>
Message-ID: <3E4AC717.80104@msu.edu>

Piers,

Yes, that is strange.  I think the problem is that, as you said, the 
multiwindow mode is assuming that the screen is based at 0, 0.  That 
isn't a problem for the non-multiwindow mode, but there was obviously 
some sort of oversight in the multiwindow mode that caused this problem 
to show up.  I may look into it eventually, but if you have any 
inclination to peek at the source yourself (it is accessible via cvsweb 
and well commented) then I would appreciate it if you could try to 
locate the problem for me.

Harold

Harold L Hunt II wrote:
> Here is a message from Piers Haken reporting a problem with mutliwindow 
> mode.  His emails get bounced because Exchange insists on munging his 
> email.
> 
> Harold
> 
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Piers Haken
>  > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:22 PM
>  > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
>  > Subject: Test77 multiwindow mouse weirdness
>  >
>  >
>  > I'm seeing some weirdness with the mouse cursor in Test77's multiwindow
>  > mode.
>  >
>  > Note: I have my windows taskbar attached to the left-hand edge of the
>  > screen instead of the bottom.
>  >
>  > Here's how to see what I'm seeing:
>  > 1) install test77
>  > 2) unlock the taskbar.
>  > 3) dock the taskbar to the left-hand side of the screen
>  > 4) run 'XWin-Test77 -multiwindow'
>  > 5) open an xterm
>  > 6) look at the position of the xterm window.
>  > 7) now click on the 'Cygwin/XFree86 rl' window so the root is visible.
>  >         Notice how the position of the xterm window is different
>  > depending on whether or not the root window is shown. When the root
>  > window is shown the xterm jumps to the right exactly by the width of the
>  > taskbar.
>  >
>  > 8) while the root window is on top, move the mouse around.
>  >         Notice that the mouse cursor occasionally jumps to the right,
>  > again by the same amount as the width of the taskbar.
>  >
>  > 9) show both the root window AND the xterm, so the multiwindow xterm
>  > with the windows decorations is on top of the root window.
>  >
>  >         Notice that the two versions of the xterm window do not line up.
>  >
>  > I know this isn't a very common or very severe bug but it does seem to
>  > indicate an underlying problem in the calculation of the desktop
>  > bounding rectangle. Perhaps you're assuming, incorrectly in general,
>  > that the desktop starts at (0,0)?
>  >
>  > Piers.
>  >
> 


From samir.gupta@Barra.COM  Wed Feb 12 22:16:00 2003
From: samir.gupta@Barra.COM (Samir Gupta)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:16:00 -0000
Subject: Using Multiple X Windows
Message-ID: <5A1F6B8E14097144AF309F36A29327220F720A@iris.win.barra.com>

When the display variable is set correctly, any emacs process that I launch
still goes to the same xwin window.  I think it has something to do with
multiple window support in xwin, and I'm not sure how to turn it on.




-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Braverman [mailto:abraverman@itms.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 1:34 PM
To: 'Samir Gupta'; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: RE: Using Multiple X Windows



Though I do not use emacs, I have used exceed.  What I think is happening is
that you are not correctly setting your DISPLAY variable.  From what I am
told, if you have no DISPLAY set, emacs starts as a standard app in the
terminal it is in.  If it is set, emacs starts as an X app.  Exceed sets
this variable when it starts up the first window.  From what I can tell,
xfree does not.  What happens if you set an appropriate DISPLAY and then run
emacs& ?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Samir Gupta [mailto:samir.gupta@Barra.COM]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 12:50 PM
> To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
> Subject: Using Multiple X Windows
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a question which I could not find the answer to in
> searching the
> archives...
>
> I am trying to make window management in cygwin/xfree the
> same way I have it
> set up in exceed.  I start up tcsh in exceed with my xterm
> command which
> opens up an x window with the tcsh prompt.  From this prompt,
> every time I
> type "emacs &", it will bring up a new xwindow with the emacs program.
>
> I cannot figure out how to do this in cygwin/xfree.  From my
> tcsh prompt, I
> type "xwin" to start the xfree window.  Now, every time I
> type "emacs &", it
> opens up an emacs in the same xfree window.  I am wondering
> how I can get it
> to open up a separate xfree window each time I type "emacs &"
> as I can in
> exceed?
>
> I tried messing around with the xwin -screen option, but I
> could not come up
> with anything...
>
> Thanks
>
>
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Feb 12 22:21:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:21:00 -0000
Subject: Using Multiple X Windows
In-Reply-To: <5A1F6B8E14097144AF309F36A29327220F720A@iris.win.barra.com>
References: <5A1F6B8E14097144AF309F36A29327220F720A@iris.win.barra.com>
Message-ID: <3E4AC8F8.4080707@msu.edu>

You turn on multi window mode with -multiwindow.  This has nothing to do 
with the DISPLAY variable.

Harold

Samir Gupta wrote:
> When the display variable is set correctly, any emacs process that I launch
> still goes to the same xwin window.  I think it has something to do with
> multiple window support in xwin, and I'm not sure how to turn it on.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Braverman [mailto:abraverman@itms.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 1:34 PM
> To: 'Samir Gupta'; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: Using Multiple X Windows
> 
> 
> 
> Though I do not use emacs, I have used exceed.  What I think is happening is
> that you are not correctly setting your DISPLAY variable.  From what I am
> told, if you have no DISPLAY set, emacs starts as a standard app in the
> terminal it is in.  If it is set, emacs starts as an X app.  Exceed sets
> this variable when it starts up the first window.  From what I can tell,
> xfree does not.  What happens if you set an appropriate DISPLAY and then run
> emacs& ?
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Samir Gupta [mailto:samir.gupta@Barra.COM]
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 12:50 PM
>>To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
>>Subject: Using Multiple X Windows
>>
>>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I have a question which I could not find the answer to in
>>searching the
>>archives...
>>
>>I am trying to make window management in cygwin/xfree the
>>same way I have it
>>set up in exceed.  I start up tcsh in exceed with my xterm
>>command which
>>opens up an x window with the tcsh prompt.  From this prompt,
>>every time I
>>type "emacs &", it will bring up a new xwindow with the emacs program.
>>
>>I cannot figure out how to do this in cygwin/xfree.  From my
>>tcsh prompt, I
>>type "xwin" to start the xfree window.  Now, every time I
>>type "emacs &", it
>>opens up an emacs in the same xfree window.  I am wondering
>>how I can get it
>>to open up a separate xfree window each time I type "emacs &"
>>as I can in
>>exceed?
>>
>>I tried messing around with the xwin -screen option, but I
>>could not come up
>>with anything...
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 


From samir.gupta@Barra.COM  Wed Feb 12 22:33:00 2003
From: samir.gupta@Barra.COM (Samir Gupta)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:33:00 -0000
Subject: Using Multiple X Windows
Message-ID: <5A1F6B8E14097144AF309F36A29327220F720B@iris.win.barra.com>

Harold:

Sorry, I did not see your message when I replied to the other one...

Yes, that is the solution I was looking for.  Thanks a lot.

Just a quick question, is there any way to hide the initial window that
opens up after running XWin -multiwindow so that it does not show in my
taskbar?  Exceed has some feature that hides it from the taskbar and puts it
as one of the small icons next to the clock, and so I'm just wondering if
there is any way to do something similar with xwin.  Nothing too important,
but I thought I'd ask :)

Thanks


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Feb 12 22:45:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:45:00 -0000
Subject: Using Multiple X Windows
In-Reply-To: <5A1F6B8E14097144AF309F36A29327220F720B@iris.win.barra.com>
References: <5A1F6B8E14097144AF309F36A29327220F720B@iris.win.barra.com>
Message-ID: <3E4ACE79.7010402@msu.edu>

No, the root window is still shown because multiwindow mode is not yet 
complete.  It may take quite an amount of work to hide the root window, 
or it may be trivial.  I have not really looked into it.

Harold

Samir Gupta wrote:
> Harold:
> 
> Sorry, I did not see your message when I replied to the other one...
> 
> Yes, that is the solution I was looking for.  Thanks a lot.
> 
> Just a quick question, is there any way to hide the initial window that
> opens up after running XWin -multiwindow so that it does not show in my
> taskbar?  Exceed has some feature that hides it from the taskbar and puts it
> as one of the small icons next to the clock, and so I'm just wondering if
> there is any way to do something similar with xwin.  Nothing too important,
> but I thought I'd ask :)
> 
> Thanks


From nickc@scopic.com  Thu Feb 13 08:25:00 2003
From: nickc@scopic.com (Nick Crabtree)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:25:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Test77 multiwindow mouse weirdness
In-Reply-To: <3E4AC717.80104@msu.edu>
Message-ID: <000201c2d338$e741be70$340000c0@HESTIA>

Harold,

The assumption that the screen origin is 0,0 is one of the things I had
to fix for the multiple monitors patch. In general SM_XSCREEN and
SM_YSCREEN should _always_ be used to discover the origin (or more
generally SM_XVIRTUALSCREEN ...). In most configurations this will
indeed return 0,0 but it should not be assumed that this is the case.

I had also noticed this problem with multiwindow mode on my twin monitor
set-up. If I set my left screen to be the primary then the origin is 0,0
and multiwindow mode stretches across both monitors. If the right screen
is primary then the origin is -1200,0 and mutiwindow mode only works on
the right monitor.

I was going to have a look at this in a few weeks when I should have
some spare time.

Nick

-----Original Message-----
From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
[mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II
Sent: 12 February 2003 22:14
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: FW: Test77 multiwindow mouse weirdness


Piers,

Yes, that is strange.  I think the problem is that, as you said, the 
multiwindow mode is assuming that the screen is based at 0, 0.  That 
isn't a problem for the non-multiwindow mode, but there was obviously 
some sort of oversight in the multiwindow mode that caused this problem 
to show up.  I may look into it eventually, but if you have any 
inclination to peek at the source yourself (it is accessible via cvsweb 
and well commented) then I would appreciate it if you could try to 
locate the problem for me.

Harold

Harold L Hunt II wrote:
> Here is a message from Piers Haken reporting a problem with 
> mutliwindow
> mode.  His emails get bounced because Exchange insists on munging his 
> email.
> 
> Harold
> 
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Piers Haken
>  > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:22 PM
>  > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
>  > Subject: Test77 multiwindow mouse weirdness
>  >
>  >
>  > I'm seeing some weirdness with the mouse cursor in Test77's 
> multiwindow  > mode.  >
>  > Note: I have my windows taskbar attached to the left-hand edge of
the
>  > screen instead of the bottom.
>  >
>  > Here's how to see what I'm seeing:
>  > 1) install test77
>  > 2) unlock the taskbar.
>  > 3) dock the taskbar to the left-hand side of the screen
>  > 4) run 'XWin-Test77 -multiwindow'
>  > 5) open an xterm
>  > 6) look at the position of the xterm window.
>  > 7) now click on the 'Cygwin/XFree86 rl' window so the root is
visible.
>  >         Notice how the position of the xterm window is different
>  > depending on whether or not the root window is shown. When the root
>  > window is shown the xterm jumps to the right exactly by the width
of the
>  > taskbar.
>  >
>  > 8) while the root window is on top, move the mouse around.
>  >         Notice that the mouse cursor occasionally jumps to the
right,
>  > again by the same amount as the width of the taskbar.
>  >
>  > 9) show both the root window AND the xterm, so the multiwindow
xterm
>  > with the windows decorations is on top of the root window.
>  >
>  >         Notice that the two versions of the xterm window do not
line up.
>  >
>  > I know this isn't a very common or very severe bug but it does seem
to
>  > indicate an underlying problem in the calculation of the desktop
>  > bounding rectangle. Perhaps you're assuming, incorrectly in
general,
>  > that the desktop starts at (0,0)?
>  >
>  > Piers.
>  >
> 


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From piersh@friskit.com  Thu Feb 13 09:53:00 2003
From: piersh@friskit.com (Piers Haken)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:53:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Test77 multiwindow mouse weirdness
Message-ID: <9891913C5BFE87429D71E37F08210CB92C74F9@zeus.sfhq.friskit.com>

Resend....

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Piers Haken 
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 1:46 AM
> To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
> Subject: RE: FW: Test77 multiwindow mouse weirdness
> 
> 
> Can you drag a multiwindow so half of it show on one desktop 
> and the other hald on another?
> 
> This probably should be a somewhat lofty goal...
> 
> Piers.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nick Crabtree [mailto:nickc@scopic.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:21 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: RE: FW: Test77 multiwindow mouse weirdness
> > 
> > 
> > Harold,
> > 
> > The assumption that the screen origin is 0,0 is one of the
> > things I had to fix for the multiple monitors patch. In 
> > general SM_XSCREEN and SM_YSCREEN should _always_ be used to 
> > discover the origin (or more generally SM_XVIRTUALSCREEN 
> > ...). In most configurations this will indeed return 0,0 but 
> > it should not be assumed that this is the case.
> > 
> > I had also noticed this problem with multiwindow mode on my
> > twin monitor set-up. If I set my left screen to be the 
> > primary then the origin is 0,0 and multiwindow mode stretches 
> > across both monitors. If the right screen is primary then the 
> > origin is -1200,0 and mutiwindow mode only works on the 
> right monitor.
> > 
> > I was going to have a look at this in a few weeks when I
> > should have some spare time.
> > 
> > Nick
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II
> > Sent: 12 February 2003 22:14
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: FW: Test77 multiwindow mouse weirdness
> > 
> > 
> > Piers,
> > 
> > Yes, that is strange.  I think the problem is that, as you said, the
> > multiwindow mode is assuming that the screen is based at 0, 
> 0.  That 
> > isn't a problem for the non-multiwindow mode, but there was 
> obviously 
> > some sort of oversight in the multiwindow mode that caused 
> > this problem 
> > to show up.  I may look into it eventually, but if you have any 
> > inclination to peek at the source yourself (it is accessible 
> > via cvsweb 
> > and well commented) then I would appreciate it if you could try to 
> > locate the problem for me.
> > 
> > Harold
> > 
> > Harold L Hunt II wrote:
> > > Here is a message from Piers Haken reporting a problem with 
> > > mutliwindow mode.  His emails get bounced because 
> Exchange insists 
> > > on
> > munging his
> > > email.
> > > 
> > > Harold
> > > 
> > >  > -----Original Message-----
> > >  > From: Piers Haken
> > >  > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:22 PM
> > >  > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
> > >  > Subject: Test77 multiwindow mouse weirdness
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > I'm seeing some weirdness with the mouse cursor in Test77's 
> > > multiwindow  > mode.  >  > Note: I have my windows 
> taskbar attached 
> > > to the left-hand edge of
> > the
> > >  > screen instead of the bottom.
> > >  >
> > >  > Here's how to see what I'm seeing:
> > >  > 1) install test77
> > >  > 2) unlock the taskbar.
> > >  > 3) dock the taskbar to the left-hand side of the 
> screen  > 4) run 
> > > 'XWin-Test77 -multiwindow'  > 5) open an xterm
> > >  > 6) look at the position of the xterm window.
> > >  > 7) now click on the 'Cygwin/XFree86 rl' window so the root is
> > visible.
> > >  >         Notice how the position of the xterm window is 
> different
> > >  > depending on whether or not the root window is shown.
> > When the root
> > > > window is shown the xterm jumps to the right exactly by 
> the width
> > of the
> > >  > taskbar.
> > >  >
> > >  > 8) while the root window is on top, move the mouse around.
> > >  >         Notice that the mouse cursor occasionally jumps to the
> > right,
> > >  > again by the same amount as the width of the taskbar.
> > >  >
> > >  > 9) show both the root window AND the xterm, so the multiwindow
> > xterm
> > >  > with the windows decorations is on top of the root window.  >
> > >  >         Notice that the two versions of the xterm window do not
> > line up.
> > >  >
> > >  > I know this isn't a very common or very severe bug but
> > it does seem
> > to
> > >  > indicate an underlying problem in the calculation of the
> > desktop  >
> > > bounding rectangle. Perhaps you're assuming, incorrectly in
> > general,
> > >  > that the desktop starts at (0,0)?
> > >  >
> > >  > Piers.
> > >  >
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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From nickc@scopic.com  Thu Feb 13 12:50:00 2003
From: nickc@scopic.com (Nick Crabtree)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:50:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Test77 multiwindow mouse weirdness
In-Reply-To: <9891913C5BFE87429D71E37F08210CB92C74F9@zeus.sfhq.friskit.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c2d35e$8c8777b0$340000c0@HESTIA>

By desktop do you mean monitor? If so, yes you can using the current
code - if you choose the correct one as primary.

Nick


-----Original Message-----
From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
[mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Piers Haken
Sent: 13 February 2003 09:53
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: RE: FW: Test77 multiwindow mouse weirdness


Resend....

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Piers Haken
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 1:46 AM
> To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
> Subject: RE: FW: Test77 multiwindow mouse weirdness
> 
> 
> Can you drag a multiwindow so half of it show on one desktop
> and the other hald on another?
> 
> This probably should be a somewhat lofty goal...
> 
> Piers.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nick Crabtree [mailto:nickc@scopic.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:21 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: RE: FW: Test77 multiwindow mouse weirdness
> > 
> > 
> > Harold,
> > 
> > The assumption that the screen origin is 0,0 is one of the things I 
> > had to fix for the multiple monitors patch. In general SM_XSCREEN 
> > and SM_YSCREEN should _always_ be used to discover the origin (or 
> > more generally SM_XVIRTUALSCREEN ...). In most configurations this 
> > will indeed return 0,0 but it should not be assumed that this is the

> > case.
> > 
> > I had also noticed this problem with multiwindow mode on my twin 
> > monitor set-up. If I set my left screen to be the primary then the 
> > origin is 0,0 and multiwindow mode stretches across both monitors. 
> > If the right screen is primary then the origin is -1200,0 and 
> > mutiwindow mode only works on the
> right monitor.
> > 
> > I was going to have a look at this in a few weeks when I should have

> > some spare time.
> > 
> > Nick
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com 
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II
> > Sent: 12 February 2003 22:14
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: FW: Test77 multiwindow mouse weirdness
> > 
> > 
> > Piers,
> > 
> > Yes, that is strange.  I think the problem is that, as you said, the

> > multiwindow mode is assuming that the screen is based at 0,
> 0.  That
> > isn't a problem for the non-multiwindow mode, but there was
> obviously
> > some sort of oversight in the multiwindow mode that caused
> > this problem 
> > to show up.  I may look into it eventually, but if you have any 
> > inclination to peek at the source yourself (it is accessible 
> > via cvsweb 
> > and well commented) then I would appreciate it if you could try to 
> > locate the problem for me.
> > 
> > Harold
> > 
> > Harold L Hunt II wrote:
> > > Here is a message from Piers Haken reporting a problem with
> > > mutliwindow mode.  His emails get bounced because 
> Exchange insists
> > > on
> > munging his
> > > email.
> > > 
> > > Harold
> > > 
> > >  > -----Original Message-----
> > >  > From: Piers Haken
> > >  > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:22 PM
> > >  > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
> > >  > Subject: Test77 multiwindow mouse weirdness
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > I'm seeing some weirdness with the mouse cursor in Test77's
> > > multiwindow  > mode.  >  > Note: I have my windows 
> taskbar attached
> > > to the left-hand edge of
> > the
> > >  > screen instead of the bottom.
> > >  >
> > >  > Here's how to see what I'm seeing:
> > >  > 1) install test77
> > >  > 2) unlock the taskbar.
> > >  > 3) dock the taskbar to the left-hand side of the
> screen  > 4) run
> > > 'XWin-Test77 -multiwindow'  > 5) open an xterm
> > >  > 6) look at the position of the xterm window.
> > >  > 7) now click on the 'Cygwin/XFree86 rl' window so the root is
> > visible.
> > >  >         Notice how the position of the xterm window is 
> different
> > >  > depending on whether or not the root window is shown.
> > When the root
> > > > window is shown the xterm jumps to the right exactly by
> the width
> > of the
> > >  > taskbar.
> > >  >
> > >  > 8) while the root window is on top, move the mouse around.
> > >  >         Notice that the mouse cursor occasionally jumps to the
> > right,
> > >  > again by the same amount as the width of the taskbar.  >
> > >  > 9) show both the root window AND the xterm, so the multiwindow
> > xterm
> > >  > with the windows decorations is on top of the root window.  >
> > >  >         Notice that the two versions of the xterm window do not
> > line up.
> > >  >
> > >  > I know this isn't a very common or very severe bug but
> > it does seem
> > to
> > >  > indicate an underlying problem in the calculation of the
> > desktop  >
> > > bounding rectangle. Perhaps you're assuming, incorrectly in
> > general,
> > >  > that the desktop starts at (0,0)?
> > >  >
> > >  > Piers.
> > >  >
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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From andreas@schessner.de  Thu Feb 13 13:47:00 2003
From: andreas@schessner.de (Andreas Schessner)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:47:00 -0000
Subject: altGR key problem with windows XP
Message-ID: <3E4BA1DA.5040603@schessner.de>

Hello Alain and Harold,

sorry, I had a lot of work last month's and today I just returned out 
from vacation.

Harold L Hunt II wrote:

 >Alain,
 >
 >The problem with Andreas Schessner's patch was that it modified functions
 >that were not being compiled in the default build. I asked him where the
 >missing parts of the patch were, but he never responded. I don't know 
if he
 >just gave up or if he realized that his patch maybe didn't have the effect
 >that he thought it did. In any case, we no longer have a valid report of
 >that problem... if you can contact Andreas Schessner and ask him for the
 >rest of his patch, then perhaps we can get somewhere. Until then, I can
 >only assume that he made some sort of mistake and decided to keep quiet
 >about it :) Seriously, what else can I think when someone stops helping
 >to get their patch committed?
 >
 >Harold
 
Harold, that's not true.
I sent you all the modified sources and the patch worked fine for me and 
some of my friends.

Ok. Back to our AltGr problem:

First of all: I've found the reason why some "non-US-keyboards" are 
misbehaving.

The problem is due to the Microsoft PowerToys for XP (and the 
"Alt-Tab-Taskswitch")
The PowerToys are manipulating the Windows-Event-Queue.
I think they need to do this for their extended 
"Alt-Tab-Taskswitch"-Feature.
Probably they globaly catch some keyboard-events (specially the Ctrl and 
Alt events) before these are "resend" to the window with the current 
focus (with modified/actual timestamp).
So if the Ctrl and Alt events don't have the same timestamp (because the 
PowerToys manipulated/delayed these events) your current algorithm isn't 
able to detect an AltGr event.

The simpliest way to solve the problem is to deinstall the PowerToys.
(this worked for me and some other people, which contacted me directly 
after my posting in the cgwin-xfree mailing list)

If you want to keep the PowerToys or if you are using some other tool 
wich is also manipulationg your event-queue in the described manner, 
then you will have to change the AltGr-detection-algorithm.

I had a suggestion, about how it could be implemented.
The core idea of my suggestion was the implementation of an FSM (finite 
state machine) keeping track of the current state of Alt_R and Control_L.
I gave all the modified sources (win.h,  winkeybd.c, winwndproc.c) to 
Harold.
I thought he could run a diff over these files in order to to see what 
I've done and to build a patch.
I'm sorry, but I'm not (yet) familiar with open source projects.
I thought Harold didn't like my modifications because I made some more 
changes than really nescessary (I just wanted to keep it a little bit 
more modular).

So if you are really interested in my patch, contact me.
I will get the lastest sources, put in my modifications and send you the 
modified sources (and a diff ;-).
Unfortunally this will take some days, because I'm out of office till 
next week and I'm using Windows XP only on computers at work.

Andreas


Remark (out of my mail from 5.Nov.2002):
[If you use the alternate AltGr-detection]  The output of a "Control_L 
press" is delayed.
This seems to be the only weakness (IMHO) of the algorithm.
But it's not so bad as it's looking at the first sight. Normally a 
"Control_L press" key is mostly followed by another key press, which
will end the delay. In worst case another "Control_L press" caused by 
the automatic repeat capability of your keyboard will end the delay.
So the maximum delay for a "Control_L press" (for example if your are 
just holding down your left Control key) is the typmatic delay.
In all other cases (a "Control_L press" followed by any other key press 
or release) the following key breaks the delay.






From cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Thu Feb 13 14:57:00 2003
From: cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:57:00 -0000
Subject: copy text from xterm to browser
In-Reply-To: <200302131454.h1DEsiO01172@sdf.lonestar.org>
References: <200302131454.h1DEsiO01172@sdf.lonestar.org>
Message-ID: <20030213145856.GG27226@redhat.com>

On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 02:54:44PM +0000, David wrote:
>I get email which I view on my pc using a cygwin xterm.

Wrong mailing list.

Redirected.

>For junkmail, there usually is an unsubscribe line in
>the email like this:
>
>
> > To unsubscribe just click on this link:
> > http://www.bestxxxweb.com/cgi-bin/subscribe.cgi?unsubscribe=cupcake@sdf.lonestar.org
>
>What I have to do now is retype the entire link into my
>browser.
>
>Is there a way to do this without having to retype it?
>
>Please reply also to cupcake@sdf.lonestar.org.
>
>Thanks,
>
>David


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Feb 13 14:58:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:58:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Test77 multiwindow mouse weirdness
In-Reply-To: <000201c2d338$e741be70$340000c0@HESTIA>
References: <000201c2d338$e741be70$340000c0@HESTIA>
Message-ID: <3E4BB27F.3080209@msu.edu>

Nick,

The problem here is not so much the "origin" of the screen; I just used 
Piers's term because thats what he would understand.  The real problem 
here is that we calculate the useable portion of the screen and we use 
that as our virtual origin of the screen.  This correctly handled 
staying away from a taskbar that was on the left of the screen before, 
but the multi-window mode is not using the offset that is calculate 
earlier in the code.

Granted, using SM_XSCREEN or SM_XVIRTUALSCREEN is still correct, but 
that isn't really the issue here.

Harold

Nick Crabtree wrote:
> Harold,
> 
> The assumption that the screen origin is 0,0 is one of the things I had
> to fix for the multiple monitors patch. In general SM_XSCREEN and
> SM_YSCREEN should _always_ be used to discover the origin (or more
> generally SM_XVIRTUALSCREEN ...). In most configurations this will
> indeed return 0,0 but it should not be assumed that this is the case.
> 
> I had also noticed this problem with multiwindow mode on my twin monitor
> set-up. If I set my left screen to be the primary then the origin is 0,0
> and multiwindow mode stretches across both monitors. If the right screen
> is primary then the origin is -1200,0 and mutiwindow mode only works on
> the right monitor.
> 
> I was going to have a look at this in a few weeks when I should have
> some spare time.
> 
> Nick
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II
> Sent: 12 February 2003 22:14
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: FW: Test77 multiwindow mouse weirdness
> 
> 
> Piers,
> 
> Yes, that is strange.  I think the problem is that, as you said, the 
> multiwindow mode is assuming that the screen is based at 0, 0.  That 
> isn't a problem for the non-multiwindow mode, but there was obviously 
> some sort of oversight in the multiwindow mode that caused this problem 
> to show up.  I may look into it eventually, but if you have any 
> inclination to peek at the source yourself (it is accessible via cvsweb 
> and well commented) then I would appreciate it if you could try to 
> locate the problem for me.
> 
> Harold
> 
> Harold L Hunt II wrote:
> 
>>Here is a message from Piers Haken reporting a problem with 
>>mutliwindow
>>mode.  His emails get bounced because Exchange insists on munging his 
>>email.
>>
>>Harold
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Piers Haken
>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:22 PM
>> > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
>> > Subject: Test77 multiwindow mouse weirdness
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm seeing some weirdness with the mouse cursor in Test77's 
>>multiwindow  > mode.  >
>> > Note: I have my windows taskbar attached to the left-hand edge of
> 
> the
> 
>> > screen instead of the bottom.
>> >
>> > Here's how to see what I'm seeing:
>> > 1) install test77
>> > 2) unlock the taskbar.
>> > 3) dock the taskbar to the left-hand side of the screen
>> > 4) run 'XWin-Test77 -multiwindow'
>> > 5) open an xterm
>> > 6) look at the position of the xterm window.
>> > 7) now click on the 'Cygwin/XFree86 rl' window so the root is
> 
> visible.
> 
>> >         Notice how the position of the xterm window is different
>> > depending on whether or not the root window is shown. When the root
>> > window is shown the xterm jumps to the right exactly by the width
> 
> of the
> 
>> > taskbar.
>> >
>> > 8) while the root window is on top, move the mouse around.
>> >         Notice that the mouse cursor occasionally jumps to the
> 
> right,
> 
>> > again by the same amount as the width of the taskbar.
>> >
>> > 9) show both the root window AND the xterm, so the multiwindow
> 
> xterm
> 
>> > with the windows decorations is on top of the root window.
>> >
>> >         Notice that the two versions of the xterm window do not
> 
> line up.
> 
>> >
>> > I know this isn't a very common or very severe bug but it does seem
> 
> to
> 
>> > indicate an underlying problem in the calculation of the desktop
>> > bounding rectangle. Perhaps you're assuming, incorrectly in
> 
> general,
> 
>> > that the desktop starts at (0,0)?
>> >
>> > Piers.
>> >
>>
> 
> 
> _____________________________________________________________________
> This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the WorldCom Internet
> Managed Scanning Service - powered by MessageLabs. For further
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From cupcake@sdf.lonestar.org  Thu Feb 13 15:46:00 2003
From: cupcake@sdf.lonestar.org (David)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:46:00 -0000
Subject: copy text from xterm to browser
Message-ID: <200302131546.h1DFkOP09876@sdf.lonestar.org>

Hi,

I use windows2000 running cygwin and xfree86 and xterm.

I want to copy from the xterm and paste into netscape browser or 
internet explorer running directly on windows2000.

Does this answer your questioN?

David


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Feb 13 15:49:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:49:00 -0000
Subject: copy text from xterm to browser
In-Reply-To: <200302131546.h1DFkOP09876@sdf.lonestar.org>
References: <200302131546.h1DFkOP09876@sdf.lonestar.org>
Message-ID: <3E4BBE69.2030808@msu.edu>

Run XWin.exe with the -clipboard parameter.

Harold

David wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I use windows2000 running cygwin and xfree86 and xterm.
> 
> I want to copy from the xterm and paste into netscape browser or 
> internet explorer running directly on windows2000.
> 
> Does this answer your questioN?
> 
> David
> 


From pcolovas@lucent.com  Thu Feb 13 15:54:00 2003
From: pcolovas@lucent.com (Peter W. Colovas)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:54:00 -0000
Subject: copy text from xterm to browser
In-Reply-To: <3E4BBE69.2030808@msu.edu>
References: <200302131546.h1DFkOP09876@sdf.lonestar.org> <3E4BBE69.2030808@msu.edu>
Message-ID: <3E4BBF9D.8030200@lucent.com>

I've found that using the -clipboard parameter only allows copying from windows -> Xwindows, but not the other way. has anyone else seen this behavior? I'm running -multiwindow -clipboard.
Thanks,
-Pete

Harold L Hunt II wrote:
> Run XWin.exe with the -clipboard parameter.
> 
> Harold
> 
> David wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> I use windows2000 running cygwin and xfree86 and xterm.
>>
>> I want to copy from the xterm and paste into netscape browser or 
>> internet explorer running directly on windows2000.
>>
>> Does this answer your questioN?
>>
>> David
>>
> 

-- 
Peter W. Colovas
RNC Traffic Processing Department
cPSB Development
Lucent Technologies
Naperville, IL 
+1 630 224-2181



From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Feb 13 16:24:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:24:00 -0000
Subject: copy text from xterm to browser
In-Reply-To: <3E4BBF9D.8030200@lucent.com>
References: <200302131546.h1DFkOP09876@sdf.lonestar.org> <3E4BBE69.2030808@msu.edu> <3E4BBF9D.8030200@lucent.com>
Message-ID: <3E4BC6B4.4060909@msu.edu>

Peter,

The copying is supposed to work both ways.  Make sure that you are 
actually performing an action in an X act that will cause copying. 
Also, try copying it twice or copy something else in X, then copy what 
you want to copy and see if it works.  Let me know what sort of work 
around you come up with.

Harold

Peter W. Colovas wrote:
> I've found that using the -clipboard parameter only allows copying from 
> windows -> Xwindows, but not the other way. has anyone else seen this 
> behavior? I'm running -multiwindow -clipboard.
> Thanks,
> -Pete
> 
> Harold L Hunt II wrote:
> 
>> Run XWin.exe with the -clipboard parameter.
>>
>> Harold
>>
>> David wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I use windows2000 running cygwin and xfree86 and xterm.
>>>
>>> I want to copy from the xterm and paste into netscape browser or 
>>> internet explorer running directly on windows2000.
>>>
>>> Does this answer your questioN?
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>
> 


From arasu.kannapiran@jcu.edu.au  Fri Feb 14 01:38:00 2003
From: arasu.kannapiran@jcu.edu.au (arasu)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:38:00 -0000
Subject: XFree installation problem?
Message-ID: <000501c2d3c9$cda19080$a035db89@jcu.edu.au>

I get the following error after installing XFree86.

XWin.exe command not found.

Can any one help me? Thanks.

-arasu


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Feb 14 01:48:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:48:00 -0000
Subject: XFree installation problem?
In-Reply-To: <000501c2d3c9$cda19080$a035db89@jcu.edu.au>
References: <000501c2d3c9$cda19080$a035db89@jcu.edu.au>
Message-ID: <3E4C4ADA.6080302@msu.edu>

Yeah, follow the instructions this time, it will work much better:

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/setup.html


Harold

arasu wrote:
> I get the following error after installing XFree86.
> 
> XWin.exe command not found.
> 
> Can any one help me? Thanks.
> 
> -arasu
> 


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Feb 14 05:08:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 05:08:00 -0000
Subject: CVS cross compile
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302061736590.1337-200000@lupus.ago.vpn>
Message-ID: <NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCMEEJDGAA.huntharo@msu.edu>

Alexander,

Could you cross compile the latest CVS and make sure that it mostly builds
correctly?  I don't have a cross compile environment setup because I am out
of space on my Linux machine.  We just committed all of the changes that
have happened to Cygwin/XFree86 over the past few weeks/months.  The changes
were committed yesterday so they should be available if you do an update.

I will put your patch for the keyboard in a build soon.

Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Feb 14 05:17:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 05:17:00 -0000
Subject: problem with XFree86-bin-4.2.0-2
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302121052360.6573-100000@dragon>
Message-ID: <NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCCEEKDGAA.huntharo@msu.edu>

Andrew,

Okay, I have made a 4.2.0-3 release of XFree86-bin that includes your new
00xfree.csh script.

I did, however, forget to put you name in as a credit.  Huh... I guess
that's okay for now since there aren't any credits in there at all :)

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Andrew Grimm
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 1:14 PM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: problem with XFree86-bin-4.2.0-2
>
>
> Actually it is a very minor sort of problem, but a bug nonetheless.
>
> The csh startup script /etc/profile.d/00xfree.csh is usually sourced
> before the shell has a complete path.  This is the case for the stock
> Cygwin tcsh install.  However, the "path adding" script does not use full
> pathnames for system executables.  The sh version
> /etc/profile.d/00xfree.sh
> does use full pathnames (I guess most testing defaulted to bash).
>
> Taking a min-mods approach /etc/profile.d/00xfree.csh should be altered to
> look this way:
>
> ----------
> # the script name starts with 00 to ensure that it is executed before any
> # other scripts because one of them may need to know where X is to run
> # properly.
>
> set X11PATH="/usr/X11R6/bin"
>
> if ( $?PATH ) then
>   eval "/bin/echo ${PATH} | /bin/grep -q ${X11PATH}"
>   if ( $status ) then
>     setenv PATH "${PATH}:${X11PATH}"
>   endif
> else
>   setenv PATH ":${X11PATH}"
> endif
> ----------
>
> This incorporates two changes.  The first is to use full pathnames just as
> /etc/profile.d/00xfree.sh does.  (Note that this is not really needed for
> echo as the shell builtin works fine but it's good practice to have both
> shell scripts function as identically as possible.)  The second is to use
> $status as $? only exists in tcsh, and in theory this script should be
> csh-compatible.
>
> Without this change, the script fails to operate correctly under tcsh.
> Many people use tcsh instead of bash so it is probably a worthwhile fix.
>
> -Andy
>
> PS.  Sorry to have written so many words about such a simple thing =)
>


From cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Fri Feb 14 13:28:00 2003
From: cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:28:00 -0000
Subject: Big Problem about keyboard/mapping
Message-ID: <20030214132641.GE307@redhat.com>

Go back to http://cygwin.com/lists.html and you'll see a specific
mailing list for Cygwin/XFree86 questions.

I am redirecting this message there.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:57:04AM +0200, riku@titanix.d2g.com wrote:
>ok. lets start by the system specs:
>i have here on my work several server, but now im talking about clients
>and one server.
>
>Computer1(clients): Cygwin newest version. running under windows2000
>Computer2(servers): HP-UX 10.20 i gues is that version. but anyway HP-UX
>witch X
>
>So i need to make keyboard to work on hp-ux via x instance.. (this
>charters ???) cygwin as Xserver..
>
>i have tryied all by xmodmap but that not helps.
>MAIN QUESTION:
>Last choice is modifying cygwin itself keymap to layout FI. So how i
>change that on cygwin CONSOLE? also needed know the mapping sources to
>modifying if nessesury. i have already readed faqs and documents :) i have
>tryied to make keyboards working one week on X. (and worked but none on
>dtterm)
>
>We will use cygwin on future becouse it's free, now we use exceed and that
>is very expencive to our company witch lot of licensess.
>
>so i give many thanks for reading this and helping. im sorry about my
>english too (it's not good)


From cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Fri Feb 14 14:19:00 2003
From: cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:19:00 -0000
Subject: Big Problem about keyboard/mapping
In-Reply-To: <43465.195.156.92.8.1045232065.squirrel@titanix.net>
Message-ID: <20030214141659.GA17843@redhat.com>

On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 04:14:25PM +0200, riku@titanix.net wrote:
>no you don't understanded my question, read all before starting redirect.
>look my main question!
>
>--------
>MAIN QUESTION:
>Last choice is modifying cygwin itself keymap to layout FI. So how i
>change that on cygwin CONSOLE?
>--------
>
>sorry but i did not asken anything about X. i only writted like faq says
>(to write all to give much information as possible)

You're asking me to accept your premise that xmodmap doesn't help.
Sorry, but I don't believe you.

AFAICT, you have an X-based problem here.  Use the cygwin-xfree mailing
list for help.

As far as Cygwin is concerned, there is no "mapping" performed by cygwin.
It uses whatever Windows offers.  The code in fhandler_console.cc controls
how some keystrokes are handled but I doubt that is what you want.  You
want to use X mechanisms to solve your problem.

>> Go back to http://cygwin.com/lists.html and you'll see a specific
>> mailing list for Cygwin/XFree86 questions.
>>
>> I am redirecting this message there.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:57:04AM +0200, riku@titanix.d2g.com wrote:
>>>ok. lets start by the system specs:
>>>i have here on my work several server, but now im talking about clients
>>> and one server.
>>>
>>>Computer1(clients): Cygwin newest version. running under windows2000
>>> Computer2(servers): HP-UX 10.20 i gues is that version. but anyway
>>> HP-UX witch X
>>>
>>>So i need to make keyboard to work on hp-ux via x instance.. (this
>>> charters ???) cygwin as Xserver..
>>>
>>>i have tryied all by xmodmap but that not helps.
>>>MAIN QUESTION:
>>>Last choice is modifying cygwin itself keymap to layout FI. So how i
>>> change that on cygwin CONSOLE? also needed know the mapping sources to
>>> modifying if nessesury. i have already readed faqs and documents :) i
>>> have tryied to make keyboards working one week on X. (and worked but
>>> none on dtterm)
>>>
>>>We will use cygwin on future becouse it's free, now we use exceed and
>>> that is very expencive to our company witch lot of licensess.
>>>
>>>so i give many thanks for reading this and helping. im sorry about my
>>> english too (it's not good)


From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Fri Feb 14 17:07:00 2003
From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 17:07:00 -0000
Subject: CVS cross compile
In-Reply-To: <NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCMEEJDGAA.huntharo@msu.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302141500110.12948-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>

Harold L Hunt II wrote:

> Could you cross compile the latest CVS and make sure that it mostly builds
> correctly?  I don't have a cross compile environment setup because I am out
> of space on my Linux machine.  We just committed all of the changes that
> have happened to Cygwin/XFree86 over the past few weeks/months.  The changes
> were committed yesterday so they should be available if you do an update.

a make World with todays cvs build without problems

bye
    ago
-- 
 Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Feb 14 17:11:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 17:11:00 -0000
Subject: CVS cross compile
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302141500110.12948-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302141500110.12948-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>
Message-ID: <3E4D235B.9080909@msu.edu>

Great, thanks.

I applied your keyboard patch to my local tree, FYI.

Harold

Alexander Gottwald wrote:
> Harold L Hunt II wrote:
> 
> 
>>Could you cross compile the latest CVS and make sure that it mostly builds
>>correctly?  I don't have a cross compile environment setup because I am out
>>of space on my Linux machine.  We just committed all of the changes that
>>have happened to Cygwin/XFree86 over the past few weeks/months.  The changes
>>were committed yesterday so they should be available if you do an update.
> 
> 
> a make World with todays cvs build without problems
> 
> bye
>     ago


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Feb 14 17:36:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 17:36:00 -0000
Subject: altGR key problem with windows XP
In-Reply-To: <3E4BA1DA.5040603@schessner.de>
Message-ID: <NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCCEENDGAA.huntharo@msu.edu>

Andreas,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Andreas Schessner
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 8:47 AM
> To: alain perrier; Harold L Hunt II; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: altGR key problem with windows XP
>
>
> Hello Alain and Harold,
>
> sorry, I had a lot of work last month's and today I just returned out
> from vacation.
>
> Harold L Hunt II wrote:
>
>  >Alain,
>  >
>  >The problem with Andreas Schessner's patch was that it modified
> functions
>  >that were not being compiled in the default build. I asked him where the
>  >missing parts of the patch were, but he never responded. I don't know
> if he
>  >just gave up or if he realized that his patch maybe didn't have
> the effect
>  >that he thought it did. In any case, we no longer have a valid report of
>  >that problem... if you can contact Andreas Schessner and ask him for the
>  >rest of his patch, then perhaps we can get somewhere. Until then, I can
>  >only assume that he made some sort of mistake and decided to keep quiet
>  >about it :) Seriously, what else can I think when someone stops helping
>  >to get their patch committed?
>  >
>  >Harold
>
> Harold, that's not true.
> I sent you all the modified sources and the patch worked fine for me and
> some of my friends.
>

The message I sent was:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-11/msg00137.html


Granted, looking back at that message I obviously joined two sentences
together and dropped out a few words so it is pretty confusing.

What I was trying to say was that the patch you sent me modified a function
that was not being compiled in the default compile.  It is as simple as
that.

There are one of two explanations for how this happened:

1) You updated an old or odd version of the source code that only had one
version of the function that was not being compiled.  When you made a diff
it looked like you were updating the version that was #if def'd out, when in
fact you were updating a file that only had one version of the function and
your file had no such #if def's in it.

2) You modified other files, most likely win.h, and flipped some flags that
told that #if def'd out version of the function to be compiled.


Either way, I spent two hours back in November trying to get your patch to
apply cleanly.  I eventually gave up and sent you the above message, to
which I never noticed a response (doesn't mean that there was not a
response).


>From your new explanation I believe that your patch certainly works, but I
still need you to download the latest code from CVS and apply your patch to
that code by hand.  Then run the following:

cd xc/programs/Xserver/hw
cvs -z3 diff -U3 xwin > xwin-altgr.diff

Then send me altgr.diff.  That way I will be sure to have any and all files
that were updated.

Oh yeah, and please follow the style that is used in the current files, as I
really don't want to spend time reformatting and renaming variables, etc.

Also, try to make only the changes that are necessary.

Thanks for your contribution,

Harold


From tdager@secureworks.com  Fri Feb 14 18:02:00 2003
From: tdager@secureworks.com (Tom Dager)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 18:02:00 -0000
Subject: Using Multiple X Windows
Message-ID: <1720D5C9CF7AD411B30700010226ECC9073763CC@atlexchange.internal.secureworks.net>

I have tried this and when I type xterm at the prompt after doing "Xwin
-multiwindow" I get an "xterm Xt error: Can'topen disply:"

Does this have something to do with the DISPLAY variable which I have read
the FAQ and User Guide and it tells me know where how to set that variable.


Tom Dager



-----Original Message-----
From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 5:45 PM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Using Multiple X Windows


No, the root window is still shown because multiwindow mode is not yet 
complete.  It may take quite an amount of work to hide the root window, 
or it may be trivial.  I have not really looked into it.

Harold

Samir Gupta wrote:
> Harold:
> 
> Sorry, I did not see your message when I replied to the other one...
> 
> Yes, that is the solution I was looking for.  Thanks a lot.
> 
> Just a quick question, is there any way to hide the initial window that
> opens up after running XWin -multiwindow so that it does not show in my
> taskbar?  Exceed has some feature that hides it from the taskbar and puts
it
> as one of the small icons next to the clock, and so I'm just wondering if
> there is any way to do something similar with xwin.  Nothing too
important,
> but I thought I'd ask :)
> 
> Thanks


From andrew.markebo@telia.com  Fri Feb 14 19:25:00 2003
From: andrew.markebo@telia.com (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:25:00 -0000
Subject: Big Problem about keyboard/mapping
References: <20030214132641.GE307@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <m3bs1eekbz.fsf@telia.com>

Hello

xkeycaps is a great tool for messing around with the keyboard layout
in your X-session.

   /Andy

[...]
|>Last choice is modifying cygwin itself keymap to layout FI. So how i
|>change that on cygwin CONSOLE? also needed know the mapping sources to
|>modifying if nessesury. i have already readed faqs and documents :) i have
|>tryied to make keyboards working one week on X. (and worked but none on
|>dtterm)

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From aperrier@free.fr  Fri Feb 14 20:56:00 2003
From: aperrier@free.fr (alain perrier)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 20:56:00 -0000
Subject: altGR key problem with windows XP
References: <NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCCEENDGAA.huntharo@msu.edu>
Message-ID: <3E4D58BE.5080500@free.fr>

Andreas and Harold,

I still have the same trouble but I am very busy at work and didn't have 
sufficient time to try Cygwin on another XP workstation the last week. 
Andreas seem to locate the bug and found that is related to the way 
Windows XP send keystrokes so I think it is not related to the hardware.
Let me know if I can help you trying on other workstations...
I hope Harold could apply this diff patch on the next cygwin/xfree 
release. Thanks a lot for all foreign user of cygwin/xfree!

Alain

>>From your new explanation I believe that your patch certainly works, but I
> still need you to download the latest code from CVS and apply your patch to
> that code by hand.  Then run the following:
> 
> cd xc/programs/Xserver/hw
> cvs -z3 diff -U3 xwin > xwin-altgr.diff
> 
> Then send me altgr.diff.  That way I will be sure to have any and all files
> that were updated.
> 
> Oh yeah, and please follow the style that is used in the current files, as I
> really don't want to spend time reformatting and renaming variables, etc.
> 
> Also, try to make only the changes that are necessary.
> 
> Thanks for your contribution,
> 
> Harold
> 
> 
> 



From samir.gupta@Barra.COM  Fri Feb 14 21:23:00 2003
From: samir.gupta@Barra.COM (Samir Gupta)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 21:23:00 -0000
Subject: Lynx in Xfree
Message-ID: <5A1F6B8E14097144AF309F36A29327220F7210@iris.win.barra.com>

Hello,

How do I get Lynx to run in an xfree window instead of my current shell?

Thanks


From samir.gupta@Barra.COM  Fri Feb 14 21:26:00 2003
From: samir.gupta@Barra.COM (Samir Gupta)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 21:26:00 -0000
Subject: Using Multiple X Windows
Message-ID: <5A1F6B8E14097144AF309F36A29327220F7211@iris.win.barra.com>

Tom:

I think you need to set your DISPLAY environment variable to:

${HOST}:0

HOST contains your computer name, but for me it is already set when I run my
shell


From wilper-8@ludd.luth.se  Fri Feb 14 21:38:00 2003
From: wilper-8@ludd.luth.se (Wilhelm Person)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 21:38:00 -0000
Subject: Lynx in Xfree
In-Reply-To: <5A1F6B8E14097144AF309F36A29327220F7210@iris.win.barra.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.33.0302142237580.26747-100000@speedy.ludd.luth.se>

xterm -e lynx &

/W

On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Samir Gupta wrote:

> Hello,
>
> How do I get Lynx to run in an xfree window instead of my current shell?
>
> Thanks
>

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From samir.gupta@Barra.COM  Fri Feb 14 22:02:00 2003
From: samir.gupta@Barra.COM (Samir Gupta)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 22:02:00 -0000
Subject: Lynx in Xfree
Message-ID: <5A1F6B8E14097144AF309F36A29327220F7212@iris.win.barra.com>

Wilhelm ,
Thanks a lot, don't know why I couldn't find a solution to something like
that searching the internet.


From rjs2@hkem.com  Sat Feb 15 14:58:00 2003
From: rjs2@hkem.com (RJS)
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:58:00 -0000
Subject: Attention!!
Message-ID: <mailman.6.1583650295.51897.cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com>

REQUEST
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From arasu.kannapiran@jcu.edu.au  Sun Feb 16 05:08:00 2003
From: arasu.kannapiran@jcu.edu.au (arasu)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 05:08:00 -0000
Subject: I tried to login 
Message-ID: <000501c2d579$bf2c3620$a035db89@jcu.edu.au>

I tried to login to remote unix machine using the following command.

$ ssh -X -l username remote_hostname_or_ip_address

by giving my username and host name. I have successfully installed 
Cygwin/XFree. All it says is command not found. I am not sure whether
the path name was to be given in this case. In this situation, any further 
comments? Thanks.

-arasu



From rasjidw@openminddev.net  Sun Feb 16 06:00:00 2003
From: rasjidw@openminddev.net (Rasjid Wilcox)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 06:00:00 -0000
Subject: I tried to login
In-Reply-To: <000501c2d579$bf2c3620$a035db89@jcu.edu.au>
References: <000501c2d579$bf2c3620$a035db89@jcu.edu.au>
Message-ID: <200302161701.58684.rasjidw@openminddev.net>

On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 4:10 pm, arasu wrote:
> I tried to login to remote unix machine using the following command.
>
> $ ssh -X -l username remote_hostname_or_ip_address
>
> by giving my username and host name. I have successfully installed
> Cygwin/XFree. All it says is command not found. I am not sure whether
> the path name was to be given in this case. In this situation, any further
> comments? Thanks.

ssh is not installed by default.  Try rerunning setup, and then select and 
install openssh.

Rasjid.

-- 
Rasjid Wilcox
Canberra, Australia (UTC +11 hrs)
http://www.openminddev.net


From douglasykwon@yahoo.com  Mon Feb 17 16:22:00 2003
From: douglasykwon@yahoo.com (yiduk kwon)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:22:00 -0000
Subject: errno111 and errno 3
Message-ID: <20030217002234.72713.qmail@web41205.mail.yahoo.com>

Dear Cygwin/XFree86 users:

I finally downloaded files and installed all files, I
thought. When I typed $startx, it gave me following
error messages:

[:hostname/.xinitrc:unknowm operand
[:hostname/.xserverrc:unknown operand
export: /hostname/.Xauthority: bad variable name

giving up.
xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to
connnect to X server
xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error.

I can see the X was trying to start up, then
disappears with the above error message.
What can I do to resove this issue? Your answers are
greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

yiduk
yidukkwon@aol.com

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From lev@serebryakov.spb.ru  Mon Feb 17 20:37:00 2003
From: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru (Lev Serebryakov)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 20:37:00 -0000
Subject: XKB config?
Message-ID: <1488756765.20030217233844@serebryakov.spb.ru>

Hello, cygwin-xfree! How are you?

  How I specify this XKB config:

Section "InputDevice"
 Identifier "RuKeyboard"
 Driver     "Keyboard"
 Option "XkbRules"   "xfree86"
 Option "XkbModel"   "pc101"
 Option "XkbLayout"  "ru"
 Option "XkbOptions" "grp:ctrl_shift_toggle"
EndSection

  If I prepare /etc/X11/XF86Config with this section and run X:

/usr/X11R6/bin/X -noreset -xf86config /etc/X11/XF86Config -keyboard RuKeybiard
  
It complains about missed "Device" section... What should I put in
"Device" section? Which driver, etc?

               Lev Serebryakov
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From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Feb 17 21:18:00 2003
From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 21:18:00 -0000
Subject: XKB config?
In-Reply-To: <1488756765.20030217233844@serebryakov.spb.ru>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302172216060.1614-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>

Lev Serebryakov wrote:

> Hello, cygwin-xfree! How are you?
> 
>   How I specify this XKB config:
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
>  Identifier "RuKeyboard"
>  Driver     "Keyboard"
>  Option "XkbRules"   "xfree86"
>  Option "XkbModel"   "pc101"
>  Option "XkbLayout"  "ru"
>  Option "XkbOptions" "grp:ctrl_shift_toggle"
> EndSection
> 
>   If I prepare /etc/X11/XF86Config with this section and run X:
> 
> /usr/X11R6/bin/X -noreset -xf86config /etc/X11/XF86Config -keyboard RuKeybiard
>   
> It complains about missed "Device" section... What should I put in
> "Device" section? Which driver, etc?

I've used the parse from the XFree86 server and unfortunatly it requires 
some special sections which we do not need. 

A minimal config file is:

Section "InputDevice"
 Identifier "RuKeyboard"
 Driver     "Keyboard"
 Option "XkbRules"   "xfree86"
 Option "XkbModel"   "pc101"
 Option "XkbLayout"  "ru"
 Option "XkbOptions" "grp:ctrl_shift_toggle"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "dummy"
    Driver      "dummy"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier  "dummy"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier  "dummy"
    Device      "dummy"
    Monitor     "dummy"
EndSection


bye
    ago
NP: Oomph! - Filthy Playground
-- 
 Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723


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From aw8346@sbc.com  Tue Feb 18 20:42:00 2003
From: aw8346@sbc.com (WU, ALEX (SBCSI))
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:42:00 -0000
Subject: Autoraise in Test77 multiwindow mode
Message-ID: <F20CE7D9C747804B9359EDF4D98CD2D15849CB@CAFRFD1MSGUSR07.itservices.sbc.com>

Hi, 

I'm using XWin Test77 w/ multiwindow mode on.

I also have tweakui to have focus follow the mouse, but
not autoraise the window when activating.

Moving the mouse over to pure MS windows will just
have the focus on them. But moving the mouse to an
X window, such as xterm, will also raise the window,
although I did not enable "Autoraise when activating"
in tweakui.

Regards,
-Alex


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Feb 18 20:46:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:46:00 -0000
Subject: Autoraise in Test77 multiwindow mode
In-Reply-To: <F20CE7D9C747804B9359EDF4D98CD2D15849CB@CAFRFD1MSGUSR07.itservices.sbc.com>
References: <F20CE7D9C747804B9359EDF4D98CD2D15849CB@CAFRFD1MSGUSR07.itservices.sbc.com>
Message-ID: <3E529B97.3050309@msu.edu>

Alex,

Thanks for the report.

Just be warned that someone will have to care enough about that to fix 
the problem, but I don't care about it so I won't be fixing it :)  Maybe 
someone else will be sufficiently annoyned by it.

Harold

WU, ALEX (SBCSI) wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> I'm using XWin Test77 w/ multiwindow mode on.
> 
> I also have tweakui to have focus follow the mouse, but
> not autoraise the window when activating.
> 
> Moving the mouse over to pure MS windows will just
> have the focus on them. But moving the mouse to an
> X window, such as xterm, will also raise the window,
> although I did not enable "Autoraise when activating"
> in tweakui.
> 
> Regards,
> -Alex


From spetreolle@yahoo.fr  Tue Feb 18 20:50:00 2003
From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:50:00 -0000
Subject: Autoraise in Test77 multiwindow mode
In-Reply-To: <F20CE7D9C747804B9359EDF4D98CD2D15849CB@CAFRFD1MSGUSR07.itservices.sbc.com>
Message-ID: <20030218205012.56958.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com>

Bug in tweakui ? Wrong list then.
> Moving the mouse over to pure MS windows will just
> have the focus on them. But moving the mouse to an
> X window, such as xterm, will also raise the window,
> although I did not enable "Autoraise when activating"
> in tweakui.


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Feb 18 21:00:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:00:00 -0000
Subject: Autoraise in Test77 multiwindow mode
In-Reply-To: <20030218205012.56958.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030218205012.56958.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E529EDD.6020203@msu.edu>

Oh, I think that the problem is most likely due to the what that 
multi-window mode handles the mouse, but it only seems to cause problems 
with TweakUI.  Thus, you can basically say that TweakUI is unsupported 
so it doesn't matter if we have problems with it.  But, the underlying 
problem is definitley ours.  I would not doubt it if the problem 
manifests itself in some other way later.  I think I will wait to fix it 
until then though.

Harold

Sylvain Petreolle wrote:
> Bug in tweakui ? Wrong list then.
> 
>>Moving the mouse over to pure MS windows will just
>>have the focus on them. But moving the mouse to an
>>X window, such as xterm, will also raise the window,
>>although I did not enable "Autoraise when activating"
>>in tweakui.
> 
> 
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From aw8346@sbc.com  Tue Feb 18 21:12:00 2003
From: aw8346@sbc.com (WU, ALEX (SBCSI))
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:12:00 -0000
Subject: Autoraise in Test77 multiwindow mode
Message-ID: <F20CE7D9C747804B9359EDF4D98CD2D15849CC@CAFRFD1MSGUSR07.itservices.sbc.com>

It is not a bug in tweakui, it is in XWin Test77.
As Harold stated, it is not serious one, a lot of
people do not use tweakui, they may never
ask for a fix, although I like tweakui a lot, it
makes my desktop almost the same as Linux/Solaris.

I used to use XWin w/ fvwm2 on cygwin before trying
Test77, fvwm2 works pretty well w/ rootless mode
feature thanks to Mr. Matsuzaki.

XWin/fvwm2 does not have autoraise problem as in 
Test77. I can move the mouse to an xterm window 
which does not have to be fully visible and type a command.
The only minor annoyance is when you click on
an x window, all of the x windows raise to the top
because they have a transparent root window. But you
can move the focus to an xterm and type but still have 
the xterm partially visible under XWin/fvwm2.

Regards,
-Alex

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Sylvain Petreolle [mailto:spetreolle@yahoo.fr] 
Sent:	Tuesday, February 18, 2003 12:50 PM
To:	cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject:	Re: Autoraise in Test77 multiwindow mode

Bug in tweakui ? Wrong list then.
> Moving the mouse over to pure MS windows will just
> have the focus on them. But moving the mouse to an
> X window, such as xterm, will also raise the window,
> although I did not enable "Autoraise when activating"
> in tweakui.


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From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Tue Feb 18 21:50:00 2003
From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:50:00 -0000
Subject: Autoraise in Test77 multiwindow mode
In-Reply-To: <3E529EDD.6020203@msu.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302182246010.1378-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>

Harold L Hunt II wrote:

> Oh, I think that the problem is most likely due to the what that 
> multi-window mode handles the mouse, but it only seems to cause problems 
> with TweakUI.  Thus, you can basically say that TweakUI is unsupported 
> so it doesn't matter if we have problems with it.  But, the underlying 
> problem is definitley ours.  I would not doubt it if the problem 
> manifests itself in some other way later.  I think I will wait to fix it 
> until then though.

I'm using TweakUI too. And if I ever find the multiwindow mode useful, 
I'll not rest until the bug is fixed. But unfortunatly I'm quite happy
without multiwindow. *g* 

If I've got some time, I'll look into it. But I can't tell how soon this 
will be.

bye
    ago
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From dcorking@yahoo.fr  Tue Feb 18 22:05:00 2003
From: dcorking@yahoo.fr (David)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:05:00 -0000
Subject: how to enable magic cookies on W2K cygwin X11?
Message-ID: <20030218155222.D17416@swanage.dol.net>

I wanted to make my cygwin xfree86 server as secure as possible, and I
have the perception that the following would help.

1. Stop the tcp listener
2. Enable the authentication cookies 


Although I did not see it documented it seems I can successfully stop
the tcp listener by modifying 1 line in my startxwin.bat as follows 
 start XWin -nolisten tcp
and adding this line below it
 set DISPLAY=:0.0

However I trawled the man pages about the cookies, and found the X
startup scripts in SuSE Linux (which has cookies) to be complex enough
that it would be a small project to convert them to cygwin.

Can you suggest a howto or simpler example scripts to enforce cookies?

Thanks in advance.
David


From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Wed Feb 19 00:19:00 2003
From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 00:19:00 -0000
Subject: how to enable magic cookies on W2K cygwin X11?
In-Reply-To: <20030218155222.D17416@swanage.dol.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302190107350.1378-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>

David wrote:

> I wanted to make my cygwin xfree86 server as secure as possible, and I
> have the perception that the following would help.
> 
> 1. Stop the tcp listener

That means unix sockets must work correctly. If they do you can use the
-nolisten tcp and :0.0 display

> 2. Enable the authentication cookies 
> 
> However I trawled the man pages about the cookies, and found the X
> startup scripts in SuSE Linux (which has cookies) to be complex enough
> that it would be a small project to convert them to cygwin.

AUTHFILE=`mktemp /tmp/auth.XXXXXX`
COOKIE=`dd if=/dev/random count=1 | md5sum | cut -f1 -d\ `
xauth -f $AUTHFILE add :0.0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 $COOKIE
XWin -auth $AUTHFILE
rm $AUTHFILE

maybe 
XWin -cookie `dd if=/dev/random count=1 | md5sum | cut -f1 -d\ `

will work too.

Both methods are not tested but may help as a starting point. I even
don't know if /dev/random exists in cygwin. If not, /dev/windows should
be fine too.

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    ago
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From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Wed Feb 19 01:47:00 2003
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 01:47:00 -0000
Subject: how to enable magic cookies on W2K cygwin X11?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302190107350.1378-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>
References: <20030218155222.D17416@swanage.dol.net> <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302190107350.1378-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>
Message-ID: <3E52E221.8060804@ece.gatech.edu>

Alexander Gottwald wrote:
[some stuff about magic cookies]

cygutils contains the mcookie program from util-linux, if that helps. 
(It may not; I don't know much about X)

NAME
        mcookie - generate magic cookies for xauth

SYNOPSIS
        mcookie [-v] [-f filename ]

DESCRIPTION
        mcookie  generates a 128-bit random hexadecimal number for use 
with the
        X authority system.  Typical usage:
               xauth add :0 . `mcookie`

--Chuck


From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu  Wed Feb 19 03:12:00 2003
From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 03:12:00 -0000
Subject: how to enable magic cookies on W2K cygwin X11?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302190107350.1378-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302182211130.7773-100000@slinky.cs.nyu.edu>

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Alexander Gottwald wrote:

> I even don't know if /dev/random exists in cygwin.

FYI, it does.
	Igor
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From douglasykwon@yahoo.com  Wed Feb 19 06:27:00 2003
From: douglasykwon@yahoo.com (yiduk kwon)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 06:27:00 -0000
Subject: errno 111 and 3
Message-ID: <20030219062740.76985.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello Cygwin/XFree86:

Could anyone solve this puzzle for me please? I have
checked, I beleive, FAQs, users guide, mailing list
but couldn't find answers. I have error messages at
the $ startx command:

giving up.
xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to
connnect to X server
xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error.

I can see the X was trying to start up but disappears
after the error message. Your answers are greatly
appreciated. Thanks in advance.

yiduk
yidukkwon@aol.com


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From andrew.markebo@telia.com  Wed Feb 19 10:05:00 2003
From: andrew.markebo@telia.com (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 10:05:00 -0000
Subject: Autoraise in Test77 multiwindow mode
References: <F20CE7D9C747804B9359EDF4D98CD2D15849CC@CAFRFD1MSGUSR07.itservices.sbc.com>
Message-ID: <m31y247fgi.fsf@telia.com>

Humm my view.. This is actually a 'feature', they say it works with
FVWM, yeah.. but it is configurable in fvwm, and other window managers
to raise or not on focus, so well see it as feature wish in the
multiwindow 'window manager'.

Just being picky.. or something.. 

            /Andy

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From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Wed Feb 19 12:40:00 2003
From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:40:00 -0000
Subject: Autoraise in Test77 multiwindow mode
In-Reply-To: <m31y247fgi.fsf@telia.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302191335530.3686-100000@herein.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Andrew Markebo wrote:

> Humm my view.. This is actually a 'feature', they say it works with
> FVWM, yeah.. but it is configurable in fvwm, and other window managers
> to raise or not on focus, so well see it as feature wish in the
> multiwindow 'window manager'.

It's a windows thing. Some application in windows do an autoraise on 
setfocus (eg. Borland C++ Builder). I think this is a option for the
windowclass of the application. In multiwindowmode fvwm is not running. 
It's the builtin window manager which would do such a thing. 

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From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Feb 19 14:09:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:09:00 -0000
Subject: Thanks for donations
Message-ID: <3E53901C.6090209@msu.edu>

To anyone who has made a donation: thanks!

I was able to get a new 120 GB 7200 RPM hard drive for my Linux computer 
this weekend, which was a nice upgrade from my constantly full 20 GB 
5400 RPM drive.  I have now setup a cross compiling environment again 
since I finally have the room to do so.

An interesting note about the drive: The drive is a $150 Maxtor 100 GB 
with "20 GB free" for 120 GB total... plus I got a $50 mail-in rebate, 
bringing the total price down to $100.  Their actual 120 GB drive was 
$150 (no rebate) but had an 8 MB cache instead of a 2 MB cache.  I 
figured that the cache would be nice, but it wasn't worth a 50% price 
increase.

Anywho, thanks again for the donations.

Harold


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Wed Feb 19 14:53:00 2003
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:53:00 -0000
Subject: Thanks for donations
In-Reply-To: <3E53901C.6090209@msu.edu>
References: <3E53901C.6090209@msu.edu>
Message-ID: <20030219141745.GC9694@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 09:09:32 -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
> To anyone who has made a donation: thanks!
> 
> I was able to get a new 120 GB 7200 RPM hard drive for my Linux computer 
> this weekend, which was a nice upgrade from my constantly full 20 GB 
> 5400 RPM drive.  I have now setup a cross compiling environment again 
> since I finally have the room to do so.
> 
> An interesting note about the drive: The drive is a $150 Maxtor 100 GB 
> with "20 GB free" for 120 GB total... plus I got a $50 mail-in rebate, 
> bringing the total price down to $100.  Their actual 120 GB drive was 
> $150 (no rebate) but had an 8 MB cache instead of a 2 MB cache.  I 
> figured that the cache would be nice, but it wasn't worth a 50% price 
> increase.
> 
> Anywho, thanks again for the donations.

Just a question Harold, have you offered any donations to Kensuke or
to Alexander for their work ?

Alan.


From dcorking@yahoo.fr  Wed Feb 19 14:55:00 2003
From: dcorking@yahoo.fr (David)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:55:00 -0000
Subject: how to enable magic cookies on W2K cygwin X11?
In-Reply-To: <20030218155222.D17416@swanage.dol.net>
References: <20030218155222.D17416@swanage.dol.net>
Message-ID: <20030218235638.A20129@swanage.dol.net>

Alexander wrote:

> > 1. Stop the tcp listener
> > 

> That means unix sockets must work correctly. If they do you can use the
> -nolisten tcp and :0.0 display

Yes the code I gave works fine (I am definitely a newbie to unix
sockets - I don't even know if they are implemented by cygwin or by
W2K, but thanks to someone it is working right.)


> > 2. Enable the authentication cookies 
> > 
> > However I trawled the man pages about the cookies, and found the X
> > startup scripts in SuSE Linux (which has cookies) to be complex enough
> > that it would be a small project to convert them to cygwin.
> 
> AUTHFILE=`mktemp /tmp/auth.XXXXXX`
> COOKIE=`dd if=/dev/random count=1 | md5sum | cut -f1 -d\ `
> xauth -f $AUTHFILE add :0.0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 $COOKIE
> XWin -auth $AUTHFILE
> rm $AUTHFILE

This code worked right first time (thanks Igor for the mcookie
reference too.)

It also made the xauth man page go from opaque to almost lucid.

I needed to add one line before the rm $AUTHFILE
cat $AUTHFILE >>.Xauthority
or the clients could not connect, with the message:

$ xeyes
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

(I guess that in production 
mv $AUTHFILE .Xauthority
or just start with
AUTHFILE=.Xauthority
would be better.)

I think this fixes the openssh warning about fake cookies though I
can't recall how to reproduce it.

> maybe 
> XWin -cookie `dd if=/dev/random count=1 | md5sum | cut -f1 -d\ `
> 
> will work too.

probably not as it seems to me (a real newbie at writing startx
scripts) that the cookie needs to be available to the clients and to
ssh.

David


From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Wed Feb 19 15:12:00 2003
From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:12:00 -0000
Subject: how to enable magic cookies on W2K cygwin X11?
In-Reply-To: <20030218235638.A20129@swanage.dol.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302191606140.3686-100000@herein.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>

On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, David wrote:

> I needed to add one line before the rm $AUTHFILE
> cat $AUTHFILE >>.Xauthority
> or the clients could not connect, with the message:
> 
> $ xeyes
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: No protocol specified

Of course. Missed that.

> (I guess that in production 
> mv $AUTHFILE .Xauthority
> or just start with
> AUTHFILE=.Xauthority
> would be better.)

I'd append it to the .Xaurthority file. Someone might already have 
cookies for other servers stored.

COOKIE=`mcookie`
xauth -f $AUTHFILE add :0.0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 $COOKIE
xauth add :0.0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 $COOKIE
XWin -auth $AUTHFILE
rm $AUTHFILE

or

COOKIE=`mcookie`
xauth add :0.0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 $COOKIE
XWin -cookie $COOKIE

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From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Feb 19 15:34:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:34:00 -0000
Subject: Thanks for donations
In-Reply-To: <20030219141745.GC9694@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
References: <3E53901C.6090209@msu.edu> <20030219141745.GC9694@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <3E53A3F1.4060304@msu.edu>

Yeah, I keep asking (on this list) if anyone needs me to buy them 
anything or transfer money to their accounts, and I encourage them to 
setup their own donations account (which would get a link on the 
donations page).  So far, no takers :(

Harold

Alan Hourihane wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 09:09:32 -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
> 
>>To anyone who has made a donation: thanks!
>>
>>I was able to get a new 120 GB 7200 RPM hard drive for my Linux computer 
>>this weekend, which was a nice upgrade from my constantly full 20 GB 
>>5400 RPM drive.  I have now setup a cross compiling environment again 
>>since I finally have the room to do so.
>>
>>An interesting note about the drive: The drive is a $150 Maxtor 100 GB 
>>with "20 GB free" for 120 GB total... plus I got a $50 mail-in rebate, 
>>bringing the total price down to $100.  Their actual 120 GB drive was 
>>$150 (no rebate) but had an 8 MB cache instead of a 2 MB cache.  I 
>>figured that the cache would be nice, but it wasn't worth a 50% price 
>>increase.
>>
>>Anywho, thanks again for the donations.
> 
> 
> Just a question Harold, have you offered any donations to Kensuke or
> to Alexander for their work ?
> 
> Alan.


From cgf@redhat.com  Wed Feb 19 15:36:00 2003
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:36:00 -0000
Subject: Thanks for donations
In-Reply-To: <20030219141745.GC9694@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
References: <3E53901C.6090209@msu.edu> <20030219141745.GC9694@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20030219153616.GF410@redhat.com>

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 02:17:45PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote:
>On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 09:09:32 -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
>> To anyone who has made a donation: thanks!
>> 
>> I was able to get a new 120 GB 7200 RPM hard drive for my Linux computer 
>> this weekend, which was a nice upgrade from my constantly full 20 GB 
>> 5400 RPM drive.  I have now setup a cross compiling environment again 
>> since I finally have the room to do so.
>> 
>> An interesting note about the drive: The drive is a $150 Maxtor 100 GB 
>> with "20 GB free" for 120 GB total... plus I got a $50 mail-in rebate, 
>> bringing the total price down to $100.  Their actual 120 GB drive was 
>> $150 (no rebate) but had an 8 MB cache instead of a 2 MB cache.  I 
>> figured that the cache would be nice, but it wasn't worth a 50% price 
>> increase.
>> 
>> Anywho, thanks again for the donations.
>
>Just a question Harold, have you offered any donations to Kensuke or
>to Alexander for their work ?

Hasn't Harold suggested that people could contribute links for their own
donations?  I don't think it makes sense for someone to be attempting to
dole out money.  What would the criteria be?  Better to let the users
decide.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Feb 19 15:39:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:39:00 -0000
Subject: Thanks for donations
In-Reply-To: <20030219153616.GF410@redhat.com>
References: <3E53901C.6090209@msu.edu> <20030219141745.GC9694@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20030219153616.GF410@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3E53A538.5090109@msu.edu>

Right, that is the optimum solution.  But if a developer says, "hey, I 
need book [foo] for feature [bar]", then I would surely make sure that 
it found its way to them :)

Harold

Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 02:17:45PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote:
> 
>>On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 09:09:32 -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
>>
>>>To anyone who has made a donation: thanks!
>>>
>>>I was able to get a new 120 GB 7200 RPM hard drive for my Linux computer 
>>>this weekend, which was a nice upgrade from my constantly full 20 GB 
>>>5400 RPM drive.  I have now setup a cross compiling environment again 
>>>since I finally have the room to do so.
>>>
>>>An interesting note about the drive: The drive is a $150 Maxtor 100 GB 
>>>with "20 GB free" for 120 GB total... plus I got a $50 mail-in rebate, 
>>>bringing the total price down to $100.  Their actual 120 GB drive was 
>>>$150 (no rebate) but had an 8 MB cache instead of a 2 MB cache.  I 
>>>figured that the cache would be nice, but it wasn't worth a 50% price 
>>>increase.
>>>
>>>Anywho, thanks again for the donations.
>>
>>Just a question Harold, have you offered any donations to Kensuke or
>>to Alexander for their work ?
> 
> 
> Hasn't Harold suggested that people could contribute links for their own
> donations?  I don't think it makes sense for someone to be attempting to
> dole out money.  What would the criteria be?  Better to let the users
> decide.
> 
> cgf


From karln@surdex.com  Wed Feb 19 15:55:00 2003
From: karln@surdex.com (Karl North)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:55:00 -0000
Subject: using rxvt with other shells 
Message-ID: <F6E7117DB7DA234D9CC81B391DA8BEE10327C1@emailserver.surdex.com>

Has anyone out there ever used the MKS Korn shell or any other
non-BASH shell in the RXVT terminal emulator on Windows 2000?

Mine seems to _work_ fine, ie. commands work and output from both
intenal and external commands is displayed fine, but I can't get
the shell to show me a prompt.

Any help (advice, tricks, links to web info.) will be much appreciated.

Thanx,

K. North

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From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Wed Feb 19 16:01:00 2003
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:01:00 -0000
Subject: Thanks for donations
In-Reply-To: <20030219153616.GF410@redhat.com>
References: <3E53901C.6090209@msu.edu> <20030219141745.GC9694@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20030219153616.GF410@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20030219160110.GK9694@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 10:36:16 -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 02:17:45PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote:
> >On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 09:09:32 -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
> >> To anyone who has made a donation: thanks!
> >> 
> >> I was able to get a new 120 GB 7200 RPM hard drive for my Linux computer 
> >> this weekend, which was a nice upgrade from my constantly full 20 GB 
> >> 5400 RPM drive.  I have now setup a cross compiling environment again 
> >> since I finally have the room to do so.
> >> 
> >> An interesting note about the drive: The drive is a $150 Maxtor 100 GB 
> >> with "20 GB free" for 120 GB total... plus I got a $50 mail-in rebate, 
> >> bringing the total price down to $100.  Their actual 120 GB drive was 
> >> $150 (no rebate) but had an 8 MB cache instead of a 2 MB cache.  I 
> >> figured that the cache would be nice, but it wasn't worth a 50% price 
> >> increase.
> >> 
> >> Anywho, thanks again for the donations.
> >
> >Just a question Harold, have you offered any donations to Kensuke or
> >to Alexander for their work ?
> 
> Hasn't Harold suggested that people could contribute links for their own
> donations?  I don't think it makes sense for someone to be attempting to
> dole out money.  What would the criteria be?  Better to let the users
> decide.

I understand your point, but who in the user community would know who
to donate too if there are multiple paypal accounts. Unless you read
CHANGELOG's the user community wouldn't know who to donate to.

Alan.


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Feb 19 16:04:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:04:00 -0000
Subject: Thanks for donations
In-Reply-To: <20030219160110.GK9694@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
References: <3E53901C.6090209@msu.edu> <20030219141745.GC9694@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20030219153616.GF410@redhat.com> <20030219160110.GK9694@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <3E53AB18.8000106@msu.edu>

I don't think it would be a huge problem.  I would put a nice 
description of each developers contributions on the donations page.  I 
am sure that people would be able to figure out whom is most deserving 
of their praise.

Harold

Alan Hourihane wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 10:36:16 -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> 
>>On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 02:17:45PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 09:09:32 -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
>>>
>>>>To anyone who has made a donation: thanks!
>>>>
>>>>I was able to get a new 120 GB 7200 RPM hard drive for my Linux computer 
>>>>this weekend, which was a nice upgrade from my constantly full 20 GB 
>>>>5400 RPM drive.  I have now setup a cross compiling environment again 
>>>>since I finally have the room to do so.
>>>>
>>>>An interesting note about the drive: The drive is a $150 Maxtor 100 GB 
>>>>with "20 GB free" for 120 GB total... plus I got a $50 mail-in rebate, 
>>>>bringing the total price down to $100.  Their actual 120 GB drive was 
>>>>$150 (no rebate) but had an 8 MB cache instead of a 2 MB cache.  I 
>>>>figured that the cache would be nice, but it wasn't worth a 50% price 
>>>>increase.
>>>>
>>>>Anywho, thanks again for the donations.
>>>
>>>Just a question Harold, have you offered any donations to Kensuke or
>>>to Alexander for their work ?
>>
>>Hasn't Harold suggested that people could contribute links for their own
>>donations?  I don't think it makes sense for someone to be attempting to
>>dole out money.  What would the criteria be?  Better to let the users
>>decide.
> 
> 
> I understand your point, but who in the user community would know who
> to donate too if there are multiple paypal accounts. Unless you read
> CHANGELOG's the user community wouldn't know who to donate to.
> 
> Alan.


From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu  Wed Feb 19 16:26:00 2003
From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:26:00 -0000
Subject: using rxvt with other shells 
In-Reply-To: <F6E7117DB7DA234D9CC81B391DA8BEE10327C1@emailserver.surdex.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302191122110.11788-100000@slinky.cs.nyu.edu>

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Karl North wrote:

> Has anyone out there ever used the MKS Korn shell or any other
> non-BASH shell in the RXVT terminal emulator on Windows 2000?
>
> Mine seems to _work_ fine, ie. commands work and output from both
> intenal and external commands is displayed fine, but I can't get
> the shell to show me a prompt.
>
> Any help (advice, tricks, links to web info.) will be much appreciated.
>
> Thanx,
> K. North

Karl,

It's hard to do this with as little information as you provided, but, as a
hint, you set the prompt in the shell's ${SHELL}rc file (read the man/info
page for the shell, especially the initialization section).  See
/etc/profile.default for examples.
FYI, rxvt works for me with sh (ash), tcsh, and ksh (PDksh), both using
the -e option and making the shell the default in /etc/passwd, and shows
the prompt just fine.

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Umm, *what* is *that*?
	Igor
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Oh, boy, virtual memory! Now I'm gonna make myself a really *big* RAMdisk!
  -- /usr/games/fortune


From andrew.markebo@telia.com  Wed Feb 19 19:11:00 2003
From: andrew.markebo@telia.com (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:11:00 -0000
Subject: using rxvt with other shells
References: <F6E7117DB7DA234D9CC81B391DA8BEE10327C1@emailserver.surdex.com> <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302191122110.11788-100000@slinky.cs.nyu.edu>
Message-ID: <m3bs1884v0.fsf@telia.com>

/ Igor Pechtchanski <pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu> wrote:
| On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Karl North wrote:
|
|> Has anyone out there ever used the MKS Korn shell or any other
|> non-BASH shell in the RXVT terminal emulator on Windows 2000?

I don't think the problem is non-BASH, I think it is non-Cygwin. "MKS"
I think meaning mkssoftware port of Korn shell to Windows, and well what
they do.. we don't know.

     /Andy

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From antonv@postikaista.net  Wed Feb 19 20:19:00 2003
From: antonv@postikaista.net (Anton Vaaranmaa)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:19:00 -0000
Subject: Rootless and multiwindow
Message-ID: <200302192215.52871.antonv@postikaista.net>

Hello,

Judging by this screenshot <URL: 
http://www.cygwin.com/xfree/screenshots/cygwin-xfree86-multiwindow.png > I 
got the impression that nowadays one can run X-applications in Cygwin XFree 
without a window manager (like Twm, WindowMaker), and that X-apps sort of 
blend in in the MS-Windows GUI like they were native Win32 apps.

In the screenshot those WinXP window decorations and the fact that those 
x-apps are present in the windows taskbar suggest they are managed by Windows 
XP, but when I tried the latest stable Cygwin-XFree myself I had to use a 
standard *nix window manager or else no frame and wm buttons etc would be 
present and windows could not be moved like they are supposed to. 

I'm confused: what* is* it actually that I'm seeing? Just some WinXP theme for 
some standard *nix wm or are those apps *really* managed by MS-Windows? If 
they are, then what is the magic thing I have to do in order to enable this? 
Now I have used "-rootless" and "-multiwindow'' as arguments for Xwin in my 
startxwin.bat script.

-- 
Anton


From antonv@postikaista.net  Wed Feb 19 20:35:00 2003
From: antonv@postikaista.net (Anton Vaaranmaa)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:35:00 -0000
Subject: Discregard the previous (Re: Rootless and multiwindow)
In-Reply-To: <200302192215.52871.antonv@postikaista.net>
References: <200302192215.52871.antonv@postikaista.net>
Message-ID: <200302192231.50843.antonv@postikaista.net>

Viestiss? Keskiviikko 19. Helmikuuta 2003 22:15, Anton Vaaranmaa kirjoitti:

> If they are, then what is the magic thing I have to do in order to enable
> this? Now I have used "-rootless" and "-multiwindow'' as arguments for Xwin
> in my startxwin.bat script.

Ok, I have it working now :) Only bad thing is that this a little flaky: CPU 
usage got quite heavy (30-90%).

-- 
Anton


From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu  Wed Feb 19 20:38:00 2003
From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:38:00 -0000
Subject: using rxvt with other shells
In-Reply-To: <m3bs1884v0.fsf@telia.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302191536100.11788-100000@slinky.cs.nyu.edu>

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Andrew Markebo wrote:

> / Igor Pechtchanski <pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu> wrote:
> | On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Karl North wrote:
> |
> |> Has anyone out there ever used the MKS Korn shell or any other
> |> non-BASH shell in the RXVT terminal emulator on Windows 2000?
>
> I don't think the problem is non-BASH, I think it is non-Cygwin. "MKS"
> I think meaning mkssoftware port of Korn shell to Windows, and well what
> they do.. we don't know.
>      /Andy

Hey, I was answering the non-BASH part...  I didn't think anyone would be
silly enough to run 'rxvt -e "MKSksh"' (or any non-Cygwin shell -- that
would be like running 'rxvt -e "cmd.exe"')...
	Igor
-- 
				http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/
      |\      _,,,---,,_		pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu
ZZZzz /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_		igor@watson.ibm.com
     |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'		Igor Pechtchanski
    '---''(_/--'  `-'\_) fL	a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-.  Meow!

Oh, boy, virtual memory! Now I'm gonna make myself a really *big* RAMdisk!
  -- /usr/games/fortune


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Feb 19 20:59:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:59:00 -0000
Subject: Rootless and multiwindow
In-Reply-To: <200302192215.52871.antonv@postikaista.net>
References: <200302192215.52871.antonv@postikaista.net>
Message-ID: <3E53F048.9090706@msu.edu>

Anton,

You have to use a window manager.  You can use the internal window 
manager by passing the -multiwindow flag to XWin.exe

Harold

Anton Vaaranmaa wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Judging by this screenshot <URL: 
> http://www.cygwin.com/xfree/screenshots/cygwin-xfree86-multiwindow.png > I 
> got the impression that nowadays one can run X-applications in Cygwin XFree 
> without a window manager (like Twm, WindowMaker), and that X-apps sort of 
> blend in in the MS-Windows GUI like they were native Win32 apps.
> 
> In the screenshot those WinXP window decorations and the fact that those 
> x-apps are present in the windows taskbar suggest they are managed by Windows 
> XP, but when I tried the latest stable Cygwin-XFree myself I had to use a 
> standard *nix window manager or else no frame and wm buttons etc would be 
> present and windows could not be moved like they are supposed to. 
> 
> I'm confused: what* is* it actually that I'm seeing? Just some WinXP theme for 
> some standard *nix wm or are those apps *really* managed by MS-Windows? If 
> they are, then what is the magic thing I have to do in order to enable this? 
> Now I have used "-rootless" and "-multiwindow'' as arguments for Xwin in my 
> startxwin.bat script.
> 


From karln@surdex.com  Wed Feb 19 21:10:00 2003
From: karln@surdex.com (Karl North)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:10:00 -0000
Subject: using rxvt with other shells
Message-ID: <F6E7117DB7DA234D9CC81B391DA8BEE1032881@emailserver.surdex.com>

Thanks for the input . . .

Yes, I'm silly (or desperate) enough to be running a non-CYGWIN shell
in a CYGWIN rxvt window.  Some of our heritage application software
depends on this shell.  It's a long and ugly story.

But, I found the problem, or at least a working solution.  So in case
someone out there gives a damn, here's the skinny.

* does NOT work:	rxvt -e c:/mksnt/sh.exe -L

* does work:	rxvt -e c:/mksnt/sh.exe -i -L

The problem was not in my initialization steps, although there might well
have been a cure to the problem along those lines.

According to the MKS documentation, the default behavior of the shell is
to run as an interactive shell, so the use of "-i" should be redundant.
Well, it appears that you can modify the shell behavior by explicitly using
the "-i" parameter.  It's not clear to me, but I'm not going to dig any
further right now.  It's now behaving as desired.

I'm still curious though.  Maybe someday when I have more time to kill.

Again, thanks to all for the input!

K. North


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From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu  Wed Feb 19 22:00:00 2003
From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:00:00 -0000
Subject: using rxvt with other shells
In-Reply-To: <F6E7117DB7DA234D9CC81B391DA8BEE1032881@emailserver.surdex.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302191659230.11788-100000@slinky.cs.nyu.edu>

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Karl North wrote:

> Thanks for the input . . .
>
> Yes, I'm silly (or desperate) enough to be running a non-CYGWIN shell
> in a CYGWIN rxvt window.  Some of our heritage application software
> depends on this shell.  It's a long and ugly story.
>
> But, I found the problem, or at least a working solution.  So in case
> someone out there gives a damn, here's the skinny.
>
> * does NOT work:        rxvt -e c:/mksnt/sh.exe -L
>
> * does work:    rxvt -e c:/mksnt/sh.exe -i -L
>
> The problem was not in my initialization steps, although there might well
> have been a cure to the problem along those lines.
>
> According to the MKS documentation, the default behavior of the shell is
> to run as an interactive shell, so the use of "-i" should be redundant.
> Well, it appears that you can modify the shell behavior by explicitly using
> the "-i" parameter.  It's not clear to me, but I'm not going to dig any
> further right now.  It's now behaving as desired.
>
> I'm still curious though.  Maybe someday when I have more time to kill.
>
> Again, thanks to all for the input!
>
> K. North

MKS ksh does not understand that rxvt provides it with a tty (it's geared
towards a Windows console window), so it doesn't switch to interactive
mode.
FYI, pdksh (<http://web.cs.mun.ca/~michael/pdksh/>) compiles OOTB on
Cygwin and is a fully conformant ksh implementation.  If all you need is
ksh, there you go.
	Igor
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Oh, boy, virtual memory! Now I'm gonna make myself a really *big* RAMdisk!
  -- /usr/games/fortune


From thord.schibler@xcellenet.com  Wed Feb 19 22:05:00 2003
From: thord.schibler@xcellenet.com (Schibler, Thord)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:05:00 -0000
Subject: Win2000 vs .NET
Message-ID: <64419A3566D0C34BA1E4EA3D060CB2E73D9E3F@xukxchg1.uk.xcellenet.com>

Hi,

I have run my cygwin installation successfully on NT, W2k
(workstations and servers) and XP and have now upgraded to
a version containing cygwin1.dll with version 1003.20.0.0.

Then when I try any command from the CygWin package from a .NET
server nothing happens, e.g. if I try to run 'ls.exe' then it
freezes and when hitting CTRL-C, a whole lot of assertion messages
appear:
assertion "!wait_sig_inited" failed: file
"/netrel/src/cygwin/-1.3.20-1/winsup/cygwin/sigproc.cc", line 657

Has anyone any idea on how to make it work on .NET servers?


Thanks anyway
 Thord

PS
 By the way the 'your' regtool.exe does not act like the (older)
 one from RedHat, but you probably knew that


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Feb 19 22:27:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:27:00 -0000
Subject: Win2000 vs .NET
In-Reply-To: <64419A3566D0C34BA1E4EA3D060CB2E73D9E3F@xukxchg1.uk.xcellenet.com>
References: <64419A3566D0C34BA1E4EA3D060CB2E73D9E3F@xukxchg1.uk.xcellenet.com>
Message-ID: <3E5404E8.7060501@msu.edu>

Thord,

I think you probably want the more general cygwin@cygwin.com mailing 
list.  This mailing list deals only with XFree86 issues for Cygwin.

With that being said, if .NET Server has not been released, then I can 
tell you in advance that it will not be worth your while to ask on 
cygwin@cygwin.com.  The problem is that .NET Server is a moving target 
(if not released yet) and trying to support it is almost impossible.  It 
can't be supported until it is released as a stable product.  Now I will 
probably be told that .NET Server was released 8 years ago and that I am 
an idiot :)

Harold

Schibler, Thord wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have run my cygwin installation successfully on NT, W2k
> (workstations and servers) and XP and have now upgraded to
> a version containing cygwin1.dll with version 1003.20.0.0.
> 
> Then when I try any command from the CygWin package from a .NET
> server nothing happens, e.g. if I try to run 'ls.exe' then it
> freezes and when hitting CTRL-C, a whole lot of assertion messages
> appear:
> assertion "!wait_sig_inited" failed: file
> "/netrel/src/cygwin/-1.3.20-1/winsup/cygwin/sigproc.cc", line 657
> 
> Has anyone any idea on how to make it work on .NET servers?
> 
> 
> Thanks anyway
>  Thord
> 
> PS
>  By the way the 'your' regtool.exe does not act like the (older)
>  one from RedHat, but you probably knew that


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Feb 19 22:28:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:28:00 -0000
Subject: Discregard the previous (Re: Rootless and multiwindow)
In-Reply-To: <200302192231.50843.antonv@postikaista.net>
References: <200302192215.52871.antonv@postikaista.net> <200302192231.50843.antonv@postikaista.net>
Message-ID: <3E540515.4010402@msu.edu>

You remembered to stop running your other window manager right?

Harold

Anton Vaaranmaa wrote:
> Viestiss? Keskiviikko 19. Helmikuuta 2003 22:15, Anton Vaaranmaa kirjoitti:
> 
> 
>>If they are, then what is the magic thing I have to do in order to enable
>>this? Now I have used "-rootless" and "-multiwindow'' as arguments for Xwin
>>in my startxwin.bat script.
> 
> 
> Ok, I have it working now :) Only bad thing is that this a little flaky: CPU 
> usage got quite heavy (30-90%).
> 


From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Wed Feb 19 22:34:00 2003
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:34:00 -0000
Subject: Thanks for donations
In-Reply-To: <20030219160110.GK9694@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <009901c2d867$1a809260$c66307d5@BRAMSCHE>

> > Hasn't Harold suggested that people could contribute links for their own
> > donations?  I don't think it makes sense for someone to be attempting to
> > dole out money.  What would the criteria be?  Better to let the users
> > decide.
>
> I understand your point, but who in the user community would know who
> to donate too if there are multiple paypal accounts. Unless you read
> CHANGELOG's the user community wouldn't know who to donate to.
>
I think this too. Relating to this i've got a hint, that some people doesn't
like paypal because of security problems and that some projects are using
another donation system for example www.kagi.com. This should be only a note.

Ralf




From cgf@redhat.com  Wed Feb 19 22:44:00 2003
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:44:00 -0000
Subject: using rxvt with other shells
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302191659230.11788-100000@slinky.cs.nyu.edu>
References: <F6E7117DB7DA234D9CC81B391DA8BEE1032881@emailserver.surdex.com> <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302191659230.11788-100000@slinky.cs.nyu.edu>
Message-ID: <20030219224421.GA9184@redhat.com>

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 05:00:51PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
>FYI, pdksh (<http://web.cs.mun.ca/~michael/pdksh/>) compiles OOTB on
>Cygwin and is a fully conformant ksh implementation.  If all you need is
>ksh, there you go.

Anyone want to provide pdksh as a package?  It seems like last year's
offer to provide the real AT&T ksh has dried up.

cgf


From antonv@postikaista.net  Wed Feb 19 23:01:00 2003
From: antonv@postikaista.net (Anton Vaaranmaa)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:01:00 -0000
Subject: Discregard the previous (Re: Rootless and multiwindow)
In-Reply-To: <3E540515.4010402@msu.edu>
References: <200302192215.52871.antonv@postikaista.net> <200302192231.50843.antonv@postikaista.net> <3E540515.4010402@msu.edu>
Message-ID: <200302200057.24644.antonv@postikaista.net>

Viestiss? Torstai 20. Helmikuuta 2003 00:28, Harold L Hunt II kirjoitti:

> You remembered to stop running your other window manager right?

Yes, I commented out "wmaker", but still cpu usage is at a 30-100% level all 
the time. With a "real" window manager the cpu usage is normal. 

One funny thing I noticed when I ran kmail (through an ssh session to my Red 
Hat Linux laptop) is that I can't make selected text stay selected if I 
release mouse button 1.

But there has been a lot of improvements to Cygwin-XFree since I last time 
tried it (6 months ago or so). It feels much faster now although I am using a 
slower box (400Mhz PII) than the one I have at work (900Mhz Celeron, which 
has the old XFree on it). Then the rootless mode is a feature that has long 
been on the wishlist.

-- 
Anton


From elfyn-cygwin@exposure.org.uk  Thu Feb 20 00:33:00 2003
From: elfyn-cygwin@exposure.org.uk (Elfyn McBratney)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:33:00 -0000
Subject: using rxvt with other shells
References: <F6E7117DB7DA234D9CC81B391DA8BEE1032881@emailserver.surdex.com> <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302191659230.11788-100000@slinky.cs.nyu.edu> <20030219224421.GA9184@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <002701c2d877$dbbc6520$775f4e51@webdev>

> On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 05:00:51PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> >FYI, pdksh (<http://web.cs.mun.ca/~michael/pdksh/>) compiles OOTB on
> >Cygwin and is a fully conformant ksh implementation.  If all you need is
> >ksh, there you go.
>
> Anyone want to provide pdksh as a package?  It seems like last year's
> offer to provide the real AT&T ksh has dried up.

Perhaps I'm showing my getopt weakness' but I'm getting an error originating
in sh.h from a redef of struct option? Igor did you do anything special to
get rid of this, or is it my lack of getopt'ness knowledge?

> cgf


Regards,

Elfyn McBratney
elfyn@exposure.org.uk
www.exposure.org.uk



From john@io.com  Thu Feb 20 06:35:00 2003
From: john@io.com (John Buttery)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 06:35:00 -0000
Subject: using rxvt with other shells
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302191122110.11788-100000@slinky.cs.nyu.edu>
References: <F6E7117DB7DA234D9CC81B391DA8BEE10327C1@emailserver.surdex.com> <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302191122110.11788-100000@slinky.cs.nyu.edu>
Message-ID: <20030220063508.GC10515@io.com>

* Igor Pechtchanski <pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu> [2003-02-19 11:26:41 -0500]:
> Umm, *what* is *that*?

  MS Outlook/Exchange crap.  It's not a virus, just annoying (although I
suppose that could be up for debate, depending on your definition of
virus :p).

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From electabuzz@katamail.com  Thu Feb 20 09:30:00 2003
From: electabuzz@katamail.com (kkk)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:30:00 -0000
Subject: where are Xlib.h Xutil.h Xatom.h ecc???
Message-ID: <b326t8$906$1@main.gmane.org>

i'm trying to compile a small program (that uses Xforms)
make requests:
X11/Xlib.h
X11/Xutil.h
X11/Xatom.h
X11/keysum.h
X11/Xresource.h
X11/cursorfont.h

where are they placed?
/usr/include/X11 is absent!






From spetreolle@yahoo.fr  Thu Feb 20 09:39:00 2003
From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:39:00 -0000
Subject: where are Xlib.h Xutil.h Xatom.h ecc???
In-Reply-To: <b326t8$906$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <20030220093923.83436.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com>

you forgot to install the headers!
install the XFree86-prog package with setup.exe.
see http://www.cygwin.com/packages
 --- kkk <electabuzz@katamail.com> a ??crit : > i'm trying to compile a
small program (that uses Xforms)
> make requests:
> X11/Xlib.h
> X11/Xutil.h
> X11/Xatom.h
> X11/keysum.h
> X11/Xresource.h
> X11/cursorfont.h
> 
> where are they placed?
> /usr/include/X11 is absent!
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  

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From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu  Thu Feb 20 15:14:00 2003
From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:14:00 -0000
Subject: using rxvt with other shells
In-Reply-To: <002701c2d877$dbbc6520$775f4e51@webdev>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302201009320.16682-100000@slinky.cs.nyu.edu>

On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Elfyn McBratney wrote:

> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 05:00:51PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > >FYI, pdksh (<http://web.cs.mun.ca/~michael/pdksh/>) compiles OOTB on
> > >Cygwin and is a fully conformant ksh implementation.  If all you need is
> > >ksh, there you go.
> >
> > Anyone want to provide pdksh as a package?  It seems like last year's
> > offer to provide the real AT&T ksh has dried up.
> > cgf
>
> Perhaps I'm showing my getopt weakness' but I'm getting an error originating
> in sh.h from a redef of struct option? Igor did you do anything special to
> get rid of this, or is it my lack of getopt'ness knowledge?
> Elfyn McBratney

Umm, no, I didn't do anything special.  But I haven't compiled pdksh since
last June.  It seems that in the meantime, unistd.h included getopt.h, and
now the "struct option" defined by pdksh (which doesn't use getopt at all)
conflicts with getopt's.  I'm sure I could get it to compile.  The easiest
would be to rename the struct, I suppose...  I'd like to have a minimal
patch if I intend to package it...
	Igor
P.S. I'll report to the cygwin-apps list when I make progress on this one.
-- 
				http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/
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ZZZzz /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_		igor@watson.ibm.com
     |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'		Igor Pechtchanski
    '---''(_/--'  `-'\_) fL	a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-.  Meow!

Oh, boy, virtual memory! Now I'm gonna make myself a really *big* RAMdisk!
  -- /usr/games/fortune


From starksb@ebi.ac.uk  Thu Feb 20 18:11:00 2003
From: starksb@ebi.ac.uk (David Starks-Browning)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:11:00 -0000
Subject: (fwd) non us keyboards and cygwin xfree86
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302061442400.27385-100000@herein.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>
References: <F791Djw8I1JcDO8OP3g0000cdd6@hotmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.44.0302061442400.27385-100000@herein.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>
Message-ID: <9285-Thu20Feb2003181116+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk>

On Thursday 6 Feb 03, Alexander Gottwald writes:
> On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, J S wrote:
> 
> > Hi Tom,
> > 
> > I tried that but got:
> > 
> > $ xkbcomp -xkm -m gb /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 
> > /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/gb
> > Error:            Include file wrong type (expected KeyNames, got Keymap)
> >                   Include file "xfree86" ignored
> >                   Abandoning keycodes file "gb"
> 
> Why are still people working with this way? The keyboard is configurable
> in the config file /etc/X11/XF86Config. A sample config file can be found
> at http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/XF86Config-4.bz2

But how do we use /etc/X11/XF86Config?  I don't have one there
already.  I downloaded your sample, but there was a lot of other stuff
besides the keyboard options.  Is there a trick to getting it to work?
I tried deleting everything in your sample except:

Section "InputDevice"
    Option "XkbRules"	"xfree86"
    Option "XkbModel"	"pc105"
    Option "XkbLayout"	"gb"
EndSection

(I'm trying to use a UK keyboard layout.)  Did I delete too much?

Note the FAQ (4.5) talks about this, but doesn't say anything about
XF86Config.  I also have no XF86Config man page.  I use
/usr/X11R6/bin/startx to start X.

Thanks for your help!

Regards,
David


From colin.harrison@virgin.net  Thu Feb 20 18:58:00 2003
From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (Colin Harrison)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:58:00 -0000
Subject: (fwd) non us keyboards and cygwin xfree86
Message-ID: <000001c2d912$0edf5030$0200a8c0@STRAIGHTRUNNING.COM>


Hi

You will need more than that in your /etc/X11/XF86Config file:-

Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier	"dummy"
	Screen	"dummy"
	InputDevice	"Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier	"Keyboard1"
	Driver	"Keyboard"
	Option	"XkbRules" "xfree86"
	Option	"XkbModel" "pc105"
	Option	"XkbLayout" "gb"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier	"dummy"
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier	"dummy"
	Driver	"dummy"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier	"dummy"
	Device	"dummy"
	Monitor	"dummy"
EndSection


Works for me.

The X system is fussy..so use dos2unix if you used a Windows editor to
create it.

Colin Harrison



From lev@serebryakov.spb.ru  Thu Feb 20 20:37:00 2003
From: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru (Lev Serebryakov)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:37:00 -0000
Subject: XKB config?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302172216060.1614-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302172216060.1614-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>
Message-ID: <152374484.20030220233846@serebryakov.spb.ru>

Hello, Alexander!
Tuesday, February 18, 2003, 12:17:56 AM, you wrote:

AG> I've used the parse from the XFree86 server and unfortunatly it requires
AG> some special sections which we do not need. 

AG> A minimal config file is:

AG> Section "InputDevice"
AG>  Identifier "RuKeyboard"
AG>  Driver     "Keyboard"
AG>  Option "XkbRules"   "xfree86"
AG>  Option "XkbModel"   "pc101"
AG>  Option "XkbLayout"  "ru"
AG>  Option "XkbOptions" "grp:ctrl_shift_toggle"
AG> EndSection

AG> Section "Device"
AG>     Identifier  "dummy"
AG>     Driver      "dummy"
AG> EndSection

AG> Section "Monitor"
AG>     Identifier  "dummy"
AG> EndSection

AG> Section "Screen"
AG>     Identifier  "dummy"
AG>     Device      "dummy"
AG>     Monitor     "dummy"
AG> EndSection
 Thank you! It works! May be, it will be good idea to put something
 like this (not for Russian keyboard, but, for example, for default)
 into XFree86-etc-4.2.0-x.tar.bz2?

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From lev@serebryakov.spb.ru  Thu Feb 20 20:45:00 2003
From: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru (Lev Serebryakov)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:45:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86-cygwin & KDE & national keybord layouts
Message-ID: <262888765.20030220234721@serebryakov.spb.ru>

Hello, cygwin-xfree! How are you?

  Does somebody use KDE under cygwin XFree86 (of course, KDE is
  started on UNIX, not on Win+cygwin) and national keyboard layout?

  I've setup russian keyboard (thanks to Alexander Gottwald), and it
  works under twm + xterm.

  No I'm trying to make it work under KDE.

  KDE is configured for two keyboard layouts: English and Russian.
  I've configured `ctrl+shift' group toggle in KDE. But it doen't work
  -- it allows to switch layouts via clicing on flag icon on dock, but
  it doesn't do anything when I press ctrl+shift.

  Is it problem of KDE or XFree86-cygwin or something else?

               Lev Serebryakov
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From starksb@ebi.ac.uk  Thu Feb 20 20:52:00 2003
From: starksb@ebi.ac.uk (David Starks-Browning)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:52:00 -0000
Subject: (fwd) non us keyboards and cygwin xfree86
In-Reply-To: <000001c2d912$0edf5030$0200a8c0@STRAIGHTRUNNING.COM>
References: <000001c2d912$0edf5030$0200a8c0@STRAIGHTRUNNING.COM>
Message-ID: <2890-Thu20Feb2003205241+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk>

On Thursday 20 Feb 03, Colin Harrison writes:
> 
> Hi
> 
> You will need more than that in your /etc/X11/XF86Config file:-
> 
> ...
> 
> Works for me.

Fantastic.  That did it.  Thanks very much!

David


From andrew.markebo@telia.com  Thu Feb 20 21:24:00 2003
From: andrew.markebo@telia.com (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:24:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86-cygwin & KDE & national keybord layouts
References: <262888765.20030220234721@serebryakov.spb.ru>
Message-ID: <m365re4pdx.fsf@telia.com>

/ Lev Serebryakov <lev@serebryakov.spb.ru> wrote:
| [...]
|   KDE is configured for two keyboard layouts: English and Russian.
|   I've configured `ctrl+shift' group toggle in KDE. But it doen't work
|   -- it allows to switch layouts via clicing on flag icon on dock, but
|   it doesn't do anything when I press ctrl+shift.
|
|   Is it problem of KDE or XFree86-cygwin or something else?

Something else I think, if my memory doesn't fail me, MS Windows can't
provide all the nifty keyboard-combinations (like C-S-[something])
that are available under for example linux..

     /Andy

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Thu Feb 20 21:32:00 2003
From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:32:00 -0000
Subject: (fwd) non us keyboards and cygwin xfree86
In-Reply-To: <9285-Thu20Feb2003181116+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302202222030.2380-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>

David Starks-Browning wrote:

> But how do we use /etc/X11/XF86Config?  I don't have one there
> already.  I downloaded your sample, but there was a lot of other stuff
> besides the keyboard options.  

The other stuff is not used, but partly required. The easiest way is to 
add/replace the options you already mentioned in your mail. 

bye
    ago

NP: Blutengel - No god
-- 
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 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723


From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Thu Feb 20 21:44:00 2003
From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:44:00 -0000
Subject: (fwd) non us keyboards and cygwin xfree86
In-Reply-To: <9285-Thu20Feb2003181116+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302202242250.2380-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>

David Starks-Browning wrote:

> But how do we use /etc/X11/XF86Config?  I don't have one there
> already.  I downloaded your sample, but there was a lot of other stuff
> besides the keyboard options. 

I have replaced the configfile with a version, where all unused sections 
were replaced with the minimal (dummy) sections.

http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/XF86Config.bz2

bye
    ago
NP: Blutengel - No god
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From gp@familiehaase.de  Fri Feb 21 07:45:00 2003
From: gp@familiehaase.de (Gerrit P. Haase)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 07:45:00 -0000
Subject: Problem compiling Perl Tk800.024
In-Reply-To: <000c01c2d416$90a581d0$152ca8c0@int.mediasurface.com>
References: <000c01c2d416$90a581d0$152ca8c0@int.mediasurface.com>
Message-ID: <16471714199.20030221084735@familiehaase.de>

Hallo Jon,

CC to cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com

Am Freitag, 14. Februar 2003 um 11:48 schriebst du:


> Hello,

> Has anyone successfully built Perl Tk800.024 under cygwin? I'm using
> Cygwin 1.3.20-1, gcc 3.2 and Perl 5.6.1 (Cygwin Perl, not ActiveState)
> and Cygwin XFree86 4.2.0-1/2/3 (according to the Cygwin setup.exe, some
> Xfree packages are 4.2.0-1, some are 4.2.0-2 and some 4.2.0-3 - I'm
> using the latest packages that Setup offers). The documentation seems to
> imply that this is possible.

> I'm trying to build it to work with X, so am doing:

[...]

> cc1: warning:   as it has already been specified as a non-system
> directory

Theses are no errors.

[...]

> stubs.c:47: conflicting types for `XChangeProperty'
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:2337: previous declaration of
> `XChangeProperty'
> stubs.c: In function `XCreateGlyphCursor':
> stubs.c:68: argument `foreground_color' doesn't match prototype
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:1642: prototype declaration
> stubs.c:68: argument `background_color' doesn't match prototype
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:1642: prototype declaration
> stubs.c: In function `XCreateIC':
> stubs.c:74: number of arguments doesn't match prototype
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:4644: prototype declaration
> stubs.c: At top level:
> stubs.c:94: conflicting types for `XDeleteProperty'
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:2551: previous declaration of
> `XDeleteProperty'
> stubs.c:115: conflicting types for `XForceScreenSaver'
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:2898: previous declaration of
> `XForceScreenSaver'
> stubs.c:122: conflicting types for `XFreeCursor'
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:2928: previous declaration of
> `XFreeCursor'
> stubs.c:184: conflicting types for `XNextEvent'
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:3330: previous declaration of `XNextEvent'
> stubs.c:191: conflicting types for `XPutBackEvent'
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:3410: previous declaration of
> `XPutBackEvent'
> stubs.c:198: conflicting types for `XQueryColor'
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:3484: previous declaration of
> `XQueryColor'
> stubs.c:231: conflicting types for `XRefreshKeyboardMapping'
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:3618: previous declaration of
> `XRefreshKeyboardMapping'
> stubs.c:245: conflicting types for `XSelectInput'
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:3704: previous declaration of
> `XSelectInput'
> stubs.c:264: conflicting types for `XSetCommand'
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:3782: previous declaration of
> `XSetCommand'
> stubs.c:280: conflicting types for `XSetIconName'
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:3856: previous declaration of
> `XSetIconName'
> stubs.c:288: conflicting types for `XSetWindowBackground'
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:3970: previous declaration of
> `XSetWindowBackground'
> stubs.c:296: conflicting types for `XSetWindowBackgroundPixmap'
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:3978: previous declaration of
> `XSetWindowBackgroundPixmap'
> stubs.c:304: conflicting types for `XSetWindowBorder'
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:3986: previous declaration of
> `XSetWindowBorder'
> stubs.c:312: conflicting types for `XSetWindowBorderPixmap'
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:3994: previous declaration of
> `XSetWindowBorderPixmap'
> stubs.c:320: conflicting types for `XSetWindowBorderWidth'
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:4002: previous declaration of
> `XSetWindowBorderWidth'
> stubs.c:328: conflicting types for `XSetWindowColormap'
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:4010: previous declaration of
> `XSetWindowColormap'
> stubs.c:351: conflicting types for `XWindowEvent'
> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:4236: previous declaration of
> `XWindowEvent'
> make[1]: *** [stubs.o] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jon/src/perlModules/Tk800.024/pTk'
> make: *** [pTk/libpTk.a] Error 2

Hmmm, I tried Tk800.23 without X, there were only minor problems,
does it compile without X?


> Any thoughts?

There are some declarations duplicated in stubs.c, try to comment
these.


Gerrit
-- 
=^..^=


From lev@serebryakov.spb.ru  Fri Feb 21 09:12:00 2003
From: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru (Lev Serebryakov)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:12:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86-cygwin & KDE & national keybord layouts
In-Reply-To: <m365re4pdx.fsf@telia.com>
References: <262888765.20030220234721@serebryakov.spb.ru>
 <m365re4pdx.fsf@telia.com>
Message-ID: <597784937.20030221121231@serebryakov.spb.ru>

Hello, Andrew!
Friday, February 21, 2003, 12:24:10 AM, you wrote:

AM> |   KDE is configured for two keyboard layouts: English and Russian.
AM> |   I've configured `ctrl+shift' group toggle in KDE. But it doen't work
AM> |   -- it allows to switch layouts via clicing on flag icon on dock, but
AM> |   it doesn't do anything when I press ctrl+shift.
AM> |
AM> |   Is it problem of KDE or XFree86-cygwin or something else?
AM> Something else I think, if my memory doesn't fail me, MS Windows can't
AM> provide all the nifty keyboard-combinations (like C-S-[something])
AM> that are available under for example linux..
 Again: it works for twm+xterm (they are run from remote host too).
 There is problem in KDE+Xfrtee86-cygwin pair, not in XFree86-cygwin
 itself.

               Lev Serebryakov
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From vschmidt@ldeo.columbia.edu  Fri Feb 21 16:55:00 2003
From: vschmidt@ldeo.columbia.edu (Val Schmidt)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:55:00 -0000
Subject: Porting an application to Cygwin Lesstif issues for a Newbie
Message-ID: <003b01c2d9c9$fedfd110$0500fea9@valldeo>

Hello,

I'm trying to compile a set of open source software for processing sonar
data (MB-System) on cygwin.

The software comes with an install script that asks one to specify a few
directories for Lesstif/Motif.  On a RedHat Linux box, the lines would look
like this:

$MOTIFINCDIR = "/usr/X11R6/LessTif/Motif1.2/include";
$MOTIFLIBS = "-L/usr/X11R6/LessTif/Motif1.2/lib -lXm -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXt
-lX11";

I'm not at all knowledgeable regarding these details, but in trying to find
comparable places under cygwin I note the following:
1) There is no Motif1.2 dir under /usr/X11R6/LessTif, in fact, there is only
documentation there.
2) There's an "Install" file that reads, in part:

   On windows using Cygwin, U/WIN or Interix, LessTif must be built as
   static libraries.
   Because, one of the biggest issues with X on Win32 is the moronic DLL
   format. Specifically - it is not possible to export data from a Win32
   DLL in a form that can be used to statically initialize another global
   variable. Data access from a DLL requires at least one pointer
   indirection, and hence executable code. This is why X11R6 doesn't have
   DLLs for Xt/Xmu/Xaw (and Motif) on Win32

My Questions:

1) Does the text above imply, since the sonar processing software requires
Xt and X11R6 on Cygwin doesn't have a dll for it, that this software is
incompatible and not compilable?  Am I wasting my time? 
2) If it's still possible to get this to work, would anyone have any idea,
based on the example for Linux, what to specify for Cygwin?

Thanks in advance,

-Val
________________________________________________
Val Schmidt
Lamont Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University
61 Route 9W
Palisades, NY 10964
m: 614 286 3726



From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Fri Feb 21 18:49:00 2003
From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 18:49:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86-cygwin & KDE & national keybord layouts
In-Reply-To: <597784937.20030221121231@serebryakov.spb.ru>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302211830400.1292-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>

Lev Serebryakov wrote:

> Hello, Andrew!
> Friday, February 21, 2003, 12:24:10 AM, you wrote:
> 
> AM> |   KDE is configured for two keyboard layouts: English and Russian.
> AM> |   I've configured `ctrl+shift' group toggle in KDE. But it doen't work
> AM> |   -- it allows to switch layouts via clicing on flag icon on dock, but
> AM> |   it doesn't do anything when I press ctrl+shift.
> AM> |
> AM> |   Is it problem of KDE or XFree86-cygwin or something else?
> AM> Something else I think, if my memory doesn't fail me, MS Windows can't
> AM> provide all the nifty keyboard-combinations (like C-S-[something])
> AM> that are available under for example linux..
>  Again: it works for twm+xterm (they are run from remote host too).

How can layout change from KDE work in twm, when KDE is not loaded?

>  There is problem in KDE+Xfrtee86-cygwin pair, not in XFree86-cygwin
>  itself.

Until proven otherwise I'd assume that _KDE_ does not react on the keypress.
As you wrote the layout change via clicking the icon does work, so the XKB
part is working.

bye
    ago
NP: t.A.T.u. - Clowns
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 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723


From lev@serebryakov.spb.ru  Fri Feb 21 23:15:00 2003
From: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru (Lev Serebryakov)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 23:15:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86-cygwin & KDE & national keybord layouts
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302211830400.1292-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302211830400.1292-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>
Message-ID: <1519721265.20030222021609@serebryakov.spb.ru>

Hello, Alexander!
Friday, February 21, 2003, 8:35:40 PM, you wrote:

>> AM> |   KDE is configured for two keyboard layouts: English and Russian.
>> AM> |   I've configured `ctrl+shift' group toggle in KDE. But it doen't work
>> AM> |   -- it allows to switch layouts via clicing on flag icon on dock, but
>> AM> |   it doesn't do anything when I press ctrl+shift.
>> AM> |
>> AM> |   Is it problem of KDE or XFree86-cygwin or something else?
>> AM> Something else I think, if my memory doesn't fail me, MS Windows can't
>> AM> provide all the nifty keyboard-combinations (like C-S-[something])
>> AM> that are available under for example linux..
>>  Again: it works for twm+xterm (they are run from remote host too).
AG> How can layout change from KDE work in twm, when KDE is not loaded?
  Not from KDE, but from keyboard!

  Here are two situations:

  (1) twm + xterm (remote), XFree86-cygwin with config where group
      change is ctrl+shift (local).
      When I press ctrl+shift TWO things happens:
         (a) Windows' keyboard layout is being changed for XFree86 window -- it
             could be seen by changing letters on tray
         (b) XFree86 XKB's layout is being changed: xterm shows
             RUSSIAN letters on next keypresses.
             
  (2) KDE with group change is ctrl+shift (remote), XFree86-cygwin with
      config where group change is ctrl+shift (local).
      When I press ctrl+shift ONE things happens:
         (a) Windows' keyboard layout is being changed for XFree86 window -- it
             could be seen by changing letters on tray
             
      KDE's (XKB) layout is not changed! But clicking on switch icon
      in KDE works!

  It is ONE server and ONE server's config.

  Or even better: I start xterm (without any WM), and ctrl+shift
  works, then I start `startkde' from xterm and when KDE loading is
  finished ctrl+shift doesn't work anymore. After that I'm logging out
  from KDE (only xterm still to be live) and ctrl+shift DON'T work!

  It seems, that KDE corrupt XKB config... But I have KDE configured
  to have "Ctrl+Shift" as group change!

>>  There is problem in KDE+Xfrtee86-cygwin pair, not in XFree86-cygwin
>>  itself.
AG> Until proven otherwise I'd assume that _KDE_ does not react on the keypress.
AG> As you wrote the layout change via clicking the icon does work, so the XKB
AG> part is working.
  How could I prove my words? ;-)

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From gbguei@juno.com  Fri Feb 21 23:38:00 2003
From: gbguei@juno.com (Adolphus Benedict Yakubba Guei)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 23:38:00 -0000
Subject: priority assistance
Message-ID: <mailman.8.1583650295.51897.cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com>

19-02-03

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From electabuzz@katamail.com  Sat Feb 22 02:58:00 2003
From: electabuzz@katamail.com (kkk)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 02:58:00 -0000
Subject: non-US keyboards
Message-ID: <b36p08$b5v$1@main.gmane.org>

yeah i'm very very newbie but... i won't a keyboard for my language!




From rrschulz@cris.com  Sat Feb 22 03:17:00 2003
From: rrschulz@cris.com (Randall R Schulz)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 03:17:00 -0000
Subject: non-US keyboards
In-Reply-To: <b36p08$b5v$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030221190900.029238c0@pop3.cris.com>

Hi,

I guess based on your email address that you're in Italy, so probably 
you don't know that "KKK" has a very, very bad connotation in the 
United States where many of the Cygwin subscribers reside.

KKK is short for the Ku Klux Klan, a violently racist vigilante group 
that originated in the American South. It formed after our Civil War 
when American chattel slavery became unconstitutional and its members 
terrorized black Americans (and others) for decades. The organization 
still exists, sadly, and still perpetrates violent acts, though far 
fewer than it did in the early and mid 20th century.

The name KKK is extremely offensive to many people, most of all to 
black Americans, but many non-black people find it offensive, too.

I'd like to respectfully suggest that you change the name portion of 
your email address to something will a less distasteful connotation.

Sincerely,

Randall Schulz
Mountain View, CA USA


At 18:58 2003-02-21, kkk wrote:
>yeah i'm very very newbie but... i won't a keyboard for my language!


From manuele.rampazzo@infocamere.it  Sat Feb 22 09:19:00 2003
From: manuele.rampazzo@infocamere.it (Manuele Rampazzo)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:19:00 -0000
Subject: graphical login to a remote HP-UX server
Message-ID: <3E574DD9.4080804@infocamere.it>

Hi there,
I'm trying to connect to a remote HP-UX.

Everything works fine, except two details.

1) In the local system I can use my italian keyboard, in console and 
under X too, but I can have only the US layout when I work with the 
remote HP-(s)UX. I have a doubt: do I have to change something on the 
remote Xserver? it's not a good option for me, but if it's the only way 
to make the keyboard work...

2) Some applications, like Enterprise Controlstations, works fine, but 
some windows backgrounds look black instead of white: is it a matter of 
colour depth? I have the same trouble when I connect from linux.

Thanks you in advance,
best regards.

Manu


From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Sat Feb 22 12:32:00 2003
From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 12:32:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86-cygwin & KDE & national keybord layouts
In-Reply-To: <1519721265.20030222021609@serebryakov.spb.ru>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302221247460.1499-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>

Lev Serebryakov wrote:

>   Not from KDE, but from keyboard!
> 
>   Here are two situations:
> 
>   (1) twm + xterm (remote), XFree86-cygwin with config where group
>       change is ctrl+shift (local).
>       When I press ctrl+shift TWO things happens:
>          (a) Windows' keyboard layout is being changed for XFree86 window -- it
>              could be seen by changing letters on tray
>          (b) XFree86 XKB's layout is being changed: xterm shows
>              RUSSIAN letters on next keypresses.

I don't know how this could happen. XWin receives just the raw keycodes
with no symbol information. It's more like the 2nd key on the 3rd row was
pressed. This is translated into X11 keycodes and the XKB/modmap settings
produces symbols from these (eg. latin_a or cyrillic_ya or whatever)

I've just tried an found no such behaviour. The change of the keyboard
layout from windows had no effect on a running Xserver. Or did you mean
the layout changed after the server restart?
    
>   (2) KDE with group change is ctrl+shift (remote), XFree86-cygwin with
>       config where group change is ctrl+shift (local).
>       When I press ctrl+shift ONE things happens:
>          (a) Windows' keyboard layout is being changed for XFree86 window -- it
>              could be seen by changing letters on tray
>              
>       KDE's (XKB) layout is not changed! But clicking on switch icon
>       in KDE works!

>   Or even better: I start xterm (without any WM), and ctrl+shift
>   works, then I start `startkde' from xterm and when KDE loading is
>   finished ctrl+shift doesn't work anymore. After that I'm logging out
>   from KDE (only xterm still to be live) and ctrl+shift DON'T work!
> 
>   It seems, that KDE corrupt XKB config... But I have KDE configured
>   to have "Ctrl+Shift" as group change!

Can you please run xev during this test and mail me the output?

bye
    ago
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From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Sat Feb 22 12:32:00 2003
From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 12:32:00 -0000
Subject: non-US keyboards
In-Reply-To: <b36p08$b5v$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302221325310.1499-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>

kk wrote:

> yeah i'm very very newbie but... i won't a keyboard for my language!

Get the file from http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/XF86Config.bz2
unpackit with bunzip and copy the file to /etc/X11/XF86Config.
Now search for the line
    Option "XkbRules"   "xfree86"
    Option "XkbModel"   "pc105"
    Option "XkbLayout"  "de"

and replace 
    Option "XkbLayout"  "de"
with (assuming you wan't an italian keyboard config)
    Option "XkbLayout"  "it"

That's it

bye
    ago
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From electabuzz@katamail.com  Sat Feb 22 12:44:00 2003
From: electabuzz@katamail.com (kaio)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 12:44:00 -0000
Subject: sorry for the name
References: <b36p08$b5v$1@main.gmane.org> <5.2.0.9.2.20030221190900.029238c0@pop3.cris.com>
Message-ID: <b37r91$tvj$1@main.gmane.org>





From rrschulz@cris.com  Sat Feb 22 17:25:00 2003
From: rrschulz@cris.com (Randall R Schulz)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 17:25:00 -0000
Subject: sorry for the name
In-Reply-To: <b37r91$tvj$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <b36p08$b5v$1@main.gmane.org>
 <5.2.0.9.2.20030221190900.029238c0@pop3.cris.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030222092059.01dad680@pop3.cris.com>

Kaio,

That's OK. I assumed it was not intentional.

Randall Schulz


From lemkemch@t-online.de  Sat Feb 22 19:27:00 2003
From: lemkemch@t-online.de (Michael Lemke)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 19:27:00 -0000
Subject: ctwm + xmkmf II
Message-ID: <CBWVVSXT85TQPKRLVPKIASQMHNLIFU.3e57cf01@micha>

Now that cygwin-xfree is getting better and better I really like to get
ctwm compiled.  However, imake still can't cope with ctwm's Imakefile.
I posted about this in September 2001 but the problem hadn't been
resolved then. I am still not able to solve this myself, maybe someone
can take another look. This is the original post:


http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q3/msg00881.html

>Last night I tried to build ctwm3.5.2 after I just installed the
>4.1.0 release of xfree86/cygwin.  Build instructions say to
>run xmkmf followed by make.  However, the generated Makefile seems
>very incomplete.  I tried the same on Linux to make sure it isn't
>a ctwm issue but it ran just fine.  Is there a problem with xmkmf?
>I attach the Imakefile in case it helps to track down the problem.
>I am not really familiar with Imakefiles.  But I am really impressed
>by xfree86 on cygwin, execllent work!  I managed to build pgplot
>and everything runs great.  And so do xsessions to Solaris, brilliant.


For what has been done plese see 

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q3/msg00889.html

and follow the thread.  Also for generated Makefiles.


Thanks,
Michael



From rickowen@yahoo.com  Sat Feb 22 23:51:00 2003
From: rickowen@yahoo.com (Rick Owen)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 23:51:00 -0000
Subject: Where can I find xf86config
Message-ID: <20030222235142.64053.qmail@web13902.mail.yahoo.com>

Greetings,

I have installed cygwin/xfree86.  Everything is working fine.  I tried to run
xf86config and I cannot locate it.  I installed xfree86 using the cygwin
installer and selected xfree86-base, xfree86-bin, xfree86-doc, xfree86-etc,
plus almost every other xfre86 option there was (i skipped the 100dpi font
option and a couple of others that I didn't think matter).  Where would I find
xf86config?

Thanks for any help.

Rick.

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From spetreolle@yahoo.fr  Sun Feb 23 00:30:00 2003
From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 00:30:00 -0000
Subject: Where can I find xf86config
In-Reply-To: <20030222235142.64053.qmail@web13902.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20030223003024.20053.qmail@web10108.mail.yahoo.com>

It doesnt exist for cygwin. why would you need it ?
> I have installed cygwin/xfree86.  Everything is working fine.  I
> tried to run xf86config and I cannot locate it.  


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From rickowen@yahoo.com  Sun Feb 23 00:56:00 2003
From: rickowen@yahoo.com (Rick Owen)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 00:56:00 -0000
Subject: Where can I find xf86config
In-Reply-To: <20030223003024.20053.qmail@web10108.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20030223005605.12124.qmail@web13904.mail.yahoo.com>

Sylvan,

Thanks for the quick answer.  I'm looking at the directions for installing a
font designed for nedit.  The last instruction says

If you like the font, edit the XF86Config file and add the new subdirectory
there. The fonts will be available the next time you start a X session.

I don't know enought about X and cygwin to know if I need to do that.  That is
why I was looking for XF86config. The instructions I was following are at:

http://www.loohuis-consulting.nl/projects/nedit-fonts.html

Thanks,
Rick.

--- Sylvain Petreolle <spetreolle@yahoo.fr> wrote:
> It doesnt exist for cygwin. why would you need it ?
> > I have installed cygwin/xfree86.  Everything is working fine.  I
> > tried to run xf86config and I cannot locate it.  
> 
> 
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From brion@pobox.com  Sun Feb 23 08:13:00 2003
From: brion@pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 08:13:00 -0000
Subject: 4.2.0-25 documentation note: -multiplemonitors
Message-ID: <1045992900.3363.10.camel@frank.vibber.org>

I'm happy to report that (at least for the last few minutes ;) the
-multiwindow and -multiplemonitors options work together. (Windows 2000,
Matrox G450 dual-head)

I have just one teensy nit: -multiplemonitors doesn't seem to appear in
the documentation; I discovered it from the changelog, which incorrectly
states that the option for spanning all available screens is
"-multimonitor".

Thanks to the developers for all your work!

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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From Daniel.Daboul@motorola.com  Sun Feb 23 08:58:00 2003
From: Daniel.Daboul@motorola.com (Daniel Daboul)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 08:58:00 -0000
Subject: ctwm + xmkmf II
In-Reply-To: <CBWVVSXT85TQPKRLVPKIASQMHNLIFU.3e57cf01@micha>
References: <CBWVVSXT85TQPKRLVPKIASQMHNLIFU.3e57cf01@micha>
Message-ID: <20030223085802.GE26113@legend.msil.sps.mot.com>

On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 08:26:57PM +0100, Michael Lemke wrote:
> Now that cygwin-xfree is getting better and better I really like to get
> ctwm compiled.  However, imake still can't cope with ctwm's Imakefile.
> I posted about this in September 2001 but the problem hadn't been
> resolved then. I am still not able to solve this myself, maybe someone
> can take another look. This is the original post:
[...]

To me this looks more like a problem with ctwm than with cygwin,
because I had essentially the same problems when building ctwm-3.6 on
Solaris (SunOS 5.8). But with some tweaking I got it compiled and
running on both (instructions follow).

If you read ctwm's mailing list, you will have seen that ctwm got a
new and highly motivated developer. I've seen the Imakefile on his
TODO-list, so we can hope for improvements in version 3.7. As an
interim solution you may try what I did.

Another problem is that the latest bison has problems with gram.y. I
don't remember, but I guess I used an older version to produce
gram.{c,h}, which I attached to this e-mail. With that the following
works for me on Win2k with an up-to-date cygwin distribution. Hope it
helps. -- Daniel

tar zxvf ctwm-3.6.tgz 
tar zxvf ctwm-3.6-gram.tgz 
cd ctwm-3.6
xmkmf 
echo "COBJS = gram.o lex.o deftwmrc.o add_window.o gc.o list.o ctwm.o parse.o menus.o events.o resize.o util.o version.o iconmgr.o cursor.o icons.o workmgr.o windowbox.o clicktofocus.o" >>Makefile
echo 'cob: $(COBJS)' >>Makefile
cp ../ctwm-3.6-gram/gram.? .
make cob
make ctwm.exe

# Now test it:
XWin.exe :1&
./ctwm.exe -display :1&
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From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Sun Feb 23 13:21:00 2003
From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 13:21:00 -0000
Subject: Where can I find xf86config
In-Reply-To: <20030223005605.12124.qmail@web13904.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302231417020.1404-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>

Rick Owen wrote:

> Sylvan,
> 
> Thanks for the quick answer.  I'm looking at the directions for installing a
> font designed for nedit.  The last instruction says
> 
> If you like the font, edit the XF86Config file and add the new subdirectory
> there. The fonts will be available the next time you start a X session.
> 
> I don't know enought about X and cygwin to know if I need to do that.  That is
> why I was looking for XF86config. The instructions I was following are at:

The XF86Config file is not installed by default since it's not needed for
XWin. But you can get a sample from 
http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/XF86Config.bz2
unpack it and place it in /etc/X11/XF86Config. There you can add the nedit 
fontdirectory. 

@Harold: Can you include the sample file in the 4.3.0 release when you'll
pack it?

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From septimus@armory.com  Sun Feb 23 21:49:00 2003
From: septimus@armory.com (Derrick Jobidon)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 21:49:00 -0000
Subject: 4.2.0-25 crash with ShadowGDI(Any resolution)
Message-ID: <Pine.SCO.3.96.1030223133846.4646A-100000@deepthought.armory.com>

Have WIndows 98 (not SE). the x server will always crash with ShadowGDI.
My video card is a ATI AIW-128. I noticed the height: -811 in the log
and wondered if the problem could be around there. Here isthe
stackdump from test77 binaries
from the website and the log.

Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=00465CC3
eax=00000000 ebx=102B90F0 ecx=102B90F0 edx=00000010 esi=00000000
edi=00000001
ebp=00ABFA48 esp=00ABF9E8
program=C:\CYGWIN\USR\X11R6\BIN\XWIN.EXE
cs=016F ds=0177 es=0177 fs=5787 gs=0000 ss=0177
Stack trace:
Frame     Function  Args
00ABFA48  00465CC3  (00000000, 00000000, 00000000, 102B90F0)
00ABFAB8  0046B603  (10100A40, 102B90B0, 102B98F8, 00ABFBD0)
00ABFB48  0046BCA8  (10100A40, 102B90B0, 102B98F8, 00ABFBD0)
00ABFBF8  0046C1E3  (10100A40, 102B90B0, 102B98F8, 0000022E)
00ABFC38  0046C3EE  (10100A40, 102B90B0, 102B98F8, 0000022E)
00ABFC78  0047F30E  (100F7118, 0000022E, 00000186, 00000020)
00ABFCA8  004A0CDA  (100F7118, 102BD610, 0000023D, 00000195)
00ABFCE8  0047A5A3  (10100A40, 0000047A, 00ABFD28, 00417B0E)
00ABFCF8  0047A23B  (100F7118, 102BD610, 00000195, 00000000)
00ABFD28  00417B0E  (10100A40, 00000000, 615E1EAC, 00000000)
00ABFD68  00401774  (00000003, 615E1EAC, 100F0328, 00ABFD9C)
00ABFDB8  610073E8  (610C39E8, FFFFFFFE, 00000008, 610C390C)
00ABFE08  610076CD  (00000000, 00000000, BFFC9490, 00ABFF78)
00ABFE28  006FCC52  (00401490, 037F2330, 00ABFF78, BFF8B537)
00ABFE38  0040103C  (00000000, 817722D0, 008B0000, 6E697758)
00ABFF78  BFF8B537  (88428284, 817722D0, 00000008, 00000000)
End of stack trace (more stack frames may be present)

ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1152 h 864
winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
(EE) Unable to locate/open config file
InitOutput - Error reading config file
winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000017
InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
winSetEngine - Using user's preference: 1
winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per
pixel
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1152 h: 864
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1152 h: 864
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 836 1152
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 836 1152
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1146 h 811 r 1146 l 0 b
811 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1146 height: 811 depth:
16
winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1146 height: -811 depth: 16
size image: 1858812
winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Created shadow stride: 0
winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f



From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Feb 23 22:29:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 22:29:00 -0000
Subject: 4.2.0-25 crash with ShadowGDI(Any resolution)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SCO.3.96.1030223133846.4646A-100000@deepthought.armory.com>
References: <Pine.SCO.3.96.1030223133846.4646A-100000@deepthought.armory.com>
Message-ID: <3E594B60.2080602@msu.edu>

Derrick,

That is really strange.  the biHeight memeber of the DIBSECTION 
structure is passed in as a negative, but Windows sets it back to a 
positive when the DIB is created.  In your case the DIB is being created 
but the height sign is not being toggled back to positive.  I don't know 
if the solution to this is easy or hard, but I have a start.  That start 
is just to toggle the sign back when computing the stride (which you 
will notice is being reported as zero)... this should at least result in 
the correct stride being calculated.

Try this executable and send in your log file/results:

http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test77-DEBUG-2.exe.bz2 
(1202 KiB)

Harold

Derrick Jobidon wrote:
> Have WIndows 98 (not SE). the x server will always crash with ShadowGDI.
> My video card is a ATI AIW-128. I noticed the height: -811 in the log
> and wondered if the problem could be around there. Here isthe
> stackdump from test77 binaries
> from the website and the log.
> 
> Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=00465CC3
> eax=00000000 ebx=102B90F0 ecx=102B90F0 edx=00000010 esi=00000000
> edi=00000001
> ebp=00ABFA48 esp=00ABF9E8
> program=C:\CYGWIN\USR\X11R6\BIN\XWIN.EXE
> cs=016F ds=0177 es=0177 fs=5787 gs=0000 ss=0177
> Stack trace:
> Frame     Function  Args
> 00ABFA48  00465CC3  (00000000, 00000000, 00000000, 102B90F0)
> 00ABFAB8  0046B603  (10100A40, 102B90B0, 102B98F8, 00ABFBD0)
> 00ABFB48  0046BCA8  (10100A40, 102B90B0, 102B98F8, 00ABFBD0)
> 00ABFBF8  0046C1E3  (10100A40, 102B90B0, 102B98F8, 0000022E)
> 00ABFC38  0046C3EE  (10100A40, 102B90B0, 102B98F8, 0000022E)
> 00ABFC78  0047F30E  (100F7118, 0000022E, 00000186, 00000020)
> 00ABFCA8  004A0CDA  (100F7118, 102BD610, 0000023D, 00000195)
> 00ABFCE8  0047A5A3  (10100A40, 0000047A, 00ABFD28, 00417B0E)
> 00ABFCF8  0047A23B  (100F7118, 102BD610, 00000195, 00000000)
> 00ABFD28  00417B0E  (10100A40, 00000000, 615E1EAC, 00000000)
> 00ABFD68  00401774  (00000003, 615E1EAC, 100F0328, 00ABFD9C)
> 00ABFDB8  610073E8  (610C39E8, FFFFFFFE, 00000008, 610C390C)
> 00ABFE08  610076CD  (00000000, 00000000, BFFC9490, 00ABFF78)
> 00ABFE28  006FCC52  (00401490, 037F2330, 00ABFF78, BFF8B537)
> 00ABFE38  0040103C  (00000000, 817722D0, 008B0000, 6E697758)
> 00ABFF78  BFF8B537  (88428284, 817722D0, 00000008, 00000000)
> End of stack trace (more stack frames may be present)
> 
> ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
> winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1152 h 864
> winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
> OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
> (EE) Unable to locate/open config file
> InitOutput - Error reading config file
> winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me
> winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000017
> InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
> winSetEngine - Using user's preference: 1
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per
> pixel
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1152 h: 864
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1152 h: 864
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 836 1152
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 836 1152
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1146 h 811 r 1146 l 0 b
> 811 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1146 height: 811 depth:
> 16
> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1146 height: -811 depth: 16
> size image: 1858812
> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Created shadow stride: 0
> winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f
> 
> 


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Feb 24 13:23:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:23:00 -0000
Subject: altGR key problem with windows XP
In-Reply-To: <3E4BA1DA.5040603@schessner.de>
Message-ID: <NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCIEJCDGAA.huntharo@msu.edu>

Andreas,

I think I did reply to this email and I know that you have been out of town,
but did you send in a new patch that I missed?  Just checking.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Andreas Schessner
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 8:47 AM
> To: alain perrier; Harold L Hunt II; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: altGR key problem with windows XP
>
>
> Hello Alain and Harold,
>
> sorry, I had a lot of work last month's and today I just returned out
> from vacation.
>
> Harold L Hunt II wrote:
>
>  >Alain,
>  >
>  >The problem with Andreas Schessner's patch was that it modified
> functions
>  >that were not being compiled in the default build. I asked him where the
>  >missing parts of the patch were, but he never responded. I don't know
> if he
>  >just gave up or if he realized that his patch maybe didn't have
> the effect
>  >that he thought it did. In any case, we no longer have a valid report of
>  >that problem... if you can contact Andreas Schessner and ask him for the
>  >rest of his patch, then perhaps we can get somewhere. Until then, I can
>  >only assume that he made some sort of mistake and decided to keep quiet
>  >about it :) Seriously, what else can I think when someone stops helping
>  >to get their patch committed?
>  >
>  >Harold
>
> Harold, that's not true.
> I sent you all the modified sources and the patch worked fine for me and
> some of my friends.
>
> Ok. Back to our AltGr problem:
>
> First of all: I've found the reason why some "non-US-keyboards" are
> misbehaving.
>
> The problem is due to the Microsoft PowerToys for XP (and the
> "Alt-Tab-Taskswitch")
> The PowerToys are manipulating the Windows-Event-Queue.
> I think they need to do this for their extended
> "Alt-Tab-Taskswitch"-Feature.
> Probably they globaly catch some keyboard-events (specially the Ctrl and
> Alt events) before these are "resend" to the window with the current
> focus (with modified/actual timestamp).
> So if the Ctrl and Alt events don't have the same timestamp (because the
> PowerToys manipulated/delayed these events) your current algorithm isn't
> able to detect an AltGr event.
>
> The simpliest way to solve the problem is to deinstall the PowerToys.
> (this worked for me and some other people, which contacted me directly
> after my posting in the cgwin-xfree mailing list)
>
> If you want to keep the PowerToys or if you are using some other tool
> wich is also manipulationg your event-queue in the described manner,
> then you will have to change the AltGr-detection-algorithm.
>
> I had a suggestion, about how it could be implemented.
> The core idea of my suggestion was the implementation of an FSM (finite
> state machine) keeping track of the current state of Alt_R and Control_L.
> I gave all the modified sources (win.h,  winkeybd.c, winwndproc.c) to
> Harold.
> I thought he could run a diff over these files in order to to see what
> I've done and to build a patch.
> I'm sorry, but I'm not (yet) familiar with open source projects.
> I thought Harold didn't like my modifications because I made some more
> changes than really nescessary (I just wanted to keep it a little bit
> more modular).
>
> So if you are really interested in my patch, contact me.
> I will get the lastest sources, put in my modifications and send you the
> modified sources (and a diff ;-).
> Unfortunally this will take some days, because I'm out of office till
> next week and I'm using Windows XP only on computers at work.
>
> Andreas
>
>
> Remark (out of my mail from 5.Nov.2002):
> [If you use the alternate AltGr-detection]  The output of a "Control_L
> press" is delayed.
> This seems to be the only weakness (IMHO) of the algorithm.
> But it's not so bad as it's looking at the first sight. Normally a
> "Control_L press" key is mostly followed by another key press, which
> will end the delay. In worst case another "Control_L press" caused by
> the automatic repeat capability of your keyboard will end the delay.
> So the maximum delay for a "Control_L press" (for example if your are
> just holding down your left Control key) is the typmatic delay.
> In all other cases (a "Control_L press" followed by any other key press
> or release) the following key breaks the delay.
>
>
>
>
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Feb 24 13:49:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:49:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 78
Message-ID: <NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCOEJCDGAA.huntharo@msu.edu>

Links:

I just posted Test 78 to the server development page:
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/

You can install the Test 78 package via setup.exe by selecting the
'test' package (and be sure to check the 'Bin' box): XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-26

Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now
available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network
(http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the
pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory.  You may wish to note the
desired filename in the links below, then download from your
closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html).

Server binary, direct link:
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test78.exe.bz2 (1202 KiB)

Server source, direct link:
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20030224-0828.tar.bz2 (108
KiB)

xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin (all files) diff against Test77 source code:
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-Test77-to-Test78.diff (9 KiB)


Changes:

1) Automatically detect several non-U.S. keyboard configurations by
querying Windows for the current locale.  (Alexander Gottwald)

2) Add a check for the height not being toggled to a positive integer
when the Shadow GDI DIB is created.  One user has reported it so far,
so it may be due to a single video card or driver version.  Also, this
may not fix the problem.  (Harold Hunt)


Enjoy,

Harold


From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com  Mon Feb 24 13:49:00 2003
From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bizvdm))
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:49:00 -0000
Subject: priority assistance
Message-ID: <2FAEFC2A851BD211AD820008C7286BA4031E5AD6@NBIZ205>

Imagine being trapped in a refugee camp with US$ 15.6M on your bank account,
and no cash dispenser in sight.

The irony!

Sic transit gloria mundi.

-----Original Message-----
From: Adolphus Benedict Yakubba Guei [mailto:gbguei@juno.com]
Sent: zaterdag 22 februari 2003 0:37
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: priority assistance


19-02-03

The International Red Cross Society
Refugee Rehabilitation Center
BP 6042 Ougadougou
BURKINA FASO


Dear Honourable friend,

First I must give thanks to Almighty God for
preserving my life  for this moment. And by his
special grace I got your contact
in a local directory. I am  Adolphus Benedict Guei, 
son of Late General Robert Guei former Ivorian
military Head of State killed on 19th September 2002 in
an abortive coup bymembers of the Patriotic Movement for 
Cote d'Ivoire PMCI.  My country once noted to be the most peaceful 
in Africa suddenly  descended intoanarchy turning to a  
theatre of war . More thanks to United Nations High Commission
 for Refugees UNHCR, Economic Community  of WestAfrica
States ECOWAS ,International Red Cross Society IRCS,
and Government of Burkina Faso  for their hospitality
towards thousands of displaced  Ivorians in the 
refugee camps.

I am camped in one of the United Nations Refugee
Rehabilitation Centers in Burkina Faso and hope of
returning to mycountry Cote D'Ivoire is not  in sight 
as governmentand  rebel forces have not arrived at a 
peacefultreaty. My greatest source of worry
is that our family  are target for elimination by 
same PMCI rebels who killed my father, hence we are
accorded extra security in this camp. Among
 valuables I took  with me is details of our family
account in the sum of US$15. 6million  invested  in my
name with a bank in European Union  which my father  
entrusted to my  custody,  ifwe (the family) ever find 
ourselves  in a situation ofthis nature. My father was a 
man of great foresight. Although I suspect this money was
illegaly  acquired at the expense of our country 
while he was the military head of state, but under
this scenario you will  believe with me that  the  end
have  justified the means.

Presently, as a registered refugee  under a special
protection programme my movement is restricted. I have
no access  and  funds to travel to Europe to negotiate
for the release of this money.  I now solicit  your unreserved
assistance and with vital agreements to act as proxy
on behalf of our family  and  sign out  the money  to
your custody. My family attorney is aware of our predicament. He
will  liase with financial bodies concerned to
transfer funds to your ownership on our behalf.  Once
funds gets to your country you establish  a medium scale  industry  with
the funds under my supervision. I promise on my honour
to give you 20% of this funds in question,
 and 20% share in any  investment we will  jointly
embark upon if you eventually assist me. 

Acknowledge receipt of this mail while I eagerly look
forward to your  sincere and prompt  opinion.

Yours sincerely

Adolphus Benedict Yakubba Guei




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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Feb 24 13:53:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:53:00 -0000
Subject: priority assistance
In-Reply-To: <2FAEFC2A851BD211AD820008C7286BA4031E5AD6@NBIZ205>
Message-ID: <NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCOEJDDGAA.huntharo@msu.edu>

Of course, every rufegee camp has email, but alas, no ATMs?!?  :)

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Pille Geert (bizvdm)
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 8:49 AM
> To: 'gbguei@juno.com'; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: priority assistance
> 
> 
> Imagine being trapped in a refugee camp with US$ 15.6M on your 
> bank account,
> and no cash dispenser in sight.
> 
> The irony!
> 
> Sic transit gloria mundi.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adolphus Benedict Yakubba Guei [mailto:gbguei@juno.com]
> Sent: zaterdag 22 februari 2003 0:37
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: priority assistance
> 
> 
> 19-02-03
> 
> The International Red Cross Society
> Refugee Rehabilitation Center
> BP 6042 Ougadougou
> BURKINA FASO
> 
> 
> Dear Honourable friend,
> 
> First I must give thanks to Almighty God for
> preserving my life  for this moment. And by his
> special grace I got your contact
> in a local directory. I am  Adolphus Benedict Guei, 
> son of Late General Robert Guei former Ivorian
> military Head of State killed on 19th September 2002 in
> an abortive coup bymembers of the Patriotic Movement for 
> Cote d'Ivoire PMCI.  My country once noted to be the most peaceful 
> in Africa suddenly  descended intoanarchy turning to a  
> theatre of war . More thanks to United Nations High Commission
>  for Refugees UNHCR, Economic Community  of WestAfrica
> States ECOWAS ,International Red Cross Society IRCS,
> and Government of Burkina Faso  for their hospitality
> towards thousands of displaced  Ivorians in the 
> refugee camps.
> 
> I am camped in one of the United Nations Refugee
> Rehabilitation Centers in Burkina Faso and hope of
> returning to mycountry Cote D'Ivoire is not  in sight 
> as governmentand  rebel forces have not arrived at a 
> peacefultreaty. My greatest source of worry
> is that our family  are target for elimination by 
> same PMCI rebels who killed my father, hence we are
> accorded extra security in this camp. Among
>  valuables I took  with me is details of our family
> account in the sum of US$15. 6million  invested  in my
> name with a bank in European Union  which my father  
> entrusted to my  custody,  ifwe (the family) ever find 
> ourselves  in a situation ofthis nature. My father was a 
> man of great foresight. Although I suspect this money was
> illegaly  acquired at the expense of our country 
> while he was the military head of state, but under
> this scenario you will  believe with me that  the  end
> have  justified the means.
> 
> Presently, as a registered refugee  under a special
> protection programme my movement is restricted. I have
> no access  and  funds to travel to Europe to negotiate
> for the release of this money.  I now solicit  your unreserved
> assistance and with vital agreements to act as proxy
> on behalf of our family  and  sign out  the money  to
> your custody. My family attorney is aware of our predicament. He
> will  liase with financial bodies concerned to
> transfer funds to your ownership on our behalf.  Once
> funds gets to your country you establish  a medium scale  industry  with
> the funds under my supervision. I promise on my honour
> to give you 20% of this funds in question,
>  and 20% share in any  investment we will  jointly
> embark upon if you eventually assist me. 
> 
> Acknowledge receipt of this mail while I eagerly look
> forward to your  sincere and prompt  opinion.
> 
> Yours sincerely
> 
> Adolphus Benedict Yakubba Guei
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Feb 24 13:55:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:55:00 -0000
Subject: [PATCH] default XKB settings 
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302061736590.1337-200000@lupus.ago.vpn>
Message-ID: <NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCCEJEDGAA.huntharo@msu.edu>

Alexander,

I released this in Test78/4.2.0-26.  Please test and make sure that it
functions as you intended.  Once we get a few reports that it works we can
make it the default release.

On a side note, are users that are specifying their own keyboard settings
going to have a problem, or does the auto-detection get over-ridden by user
settings?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Alexander Gottwald
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:41 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: [PATCH] default XKB settings
>
>
> Hi,
>
> This is a patch to change the default settings for XKB depending on the
> settings windows reported. I've added the following keyboardtypes
> cz: Czech
> dk: Danish
> de: German (Germany)
> gb: English (United Kingdom)
> es: Spanish (Spain, Traditional Sort)
> fi: Finnish
> fr: French (Standard)
> be: French (Belgian)
> se: Swedish (Sweden)
>
> Harold, can you add this to your builds?
>
> bye
>     ago
>
> NP: VNV Nation - Electronaut
> --
>  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
>  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
>


From John.Morrison@uk.experian.com  Mon Feb 24 14:06:00 2003
From: John.Morrison@uk.experian.com (Morrison, John)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:06:00 -0000
Subject: [PATCH] default XKB settings 
Message-ID: <CCD084B0E779D411A70300508B66222605A32D39@exchukahis02.experian.co.uk>

Harold,

Works for me (w2k, sp3, Microsoft Natural keyboard, English layout).  Only
thing is the ? (GB pound) doesn't print anything, but that doesn't bother
me overly atm.

J.

> From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
> 
> Alexander,
> 
> I released this in Test78/4.2.0-26.  Please test and make sure that it
> functions as you intended.  Once we get a few reports that it 
> works we can
> make it the default release.
> 
> On a side note, are users that are specifying their own 
> keyboard settings
> going to have a problem, or does the auto-detection get 
> over-ridden by user
> settings?
> 
> Harold


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From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Feb 24 14:22:00 2003
From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:22:00 -0000
Subject: [PATCH] default XKB settings 
In-Reply-To: <NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCCEJEDGAA.huntharo@msu.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302241519510.27357-100000@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>

On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote:

> I released this in Test78/4.2.0-26.  Please test and make sure that it
> functions as you intended.  Once we get a few reports that it works we can
> make it the default release.

For me it printed correctly that it would use a german layout. The message 
can be found in the logfile.

> On a side note, are users that are specifying their own keyboard settings
> going to have a problem, or does the auto-detection get over-ridden by user
> settings?

The new code only overrides the compiled-in default of en-us. Any setting the
user does make will override this default value.

bye
	ago
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From colin.harrison@virgin.net  Mon Feb 24 14:40:00 2003
From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (Colin Harrison)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:40:00 -0000
Subject: [PATCH] default XKB settings
Message-ID: <000001c2dc12$afa8ea00$0200a8c0@STRAIGHTRUNNING.COM>

Hi,

Works for me with and without XF86Config file.
I'm gb (UK) pc105 wxpsp1.
My pound sign works OK for me (I can type 'em but I can't keep 'em!)

Thanks
Colin


From vervoom@hotmail.com  Mon Feb 24 14:54:00 2003
From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:54:00 -0000
Subject: distorted menus with multiwindow
Message-ID: <F91Yn83KsIno0NM2nSS0000b8f7@hotmail.com>

I am running a VMS application on XFree86 (version Server-Test 78) which 
ideally I'd like to run on multiwindows, but when I click on some of the 
menus e.g. File, Edit, Help, not all of the options are displayed, or 
sometimes after the menu has dropped down and back up again, fragments of it 
remain behind on my screen. Is this a bug or is there a flag I can set to 
stop this happening.

If I use rootless mode with window maker I don't get this problem though.

Thanks,

JS.

_________________________________________________________________
Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 
http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=186&DI=1059


From FRANZW@dk.ibm.com  Mon Feb 24 14:57:00 2003
From: FRANZW@dk.ibm.com (Franz Wolfhagen)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:57:00 -0000
Subject: [PATCH] default XKB settings
Message-ID: <OF8EE1A705.808E2299-ONC1256CD7.0052214F-C1256CD7.005229BE@sto.se.ibm.com>


It seems to work with Danish as well.....

Med venlig hilsen / Regards
Franz Wolfhagen


From jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk  Mon Feb 24 15:23:00 2003
From: jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk (Jeremy Wilkins)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 15:23:00 -0000
Subject: [PATCH] default XKB settings
In-Reply-To: <000001c2dc12$afa8ea00$0200a8c0@STRAIGHTRUNNING.COM>
References: <000001c2dc12$afa8ea00$0200a8c0@STRAIGHTRUNNING.COM>
Message-ID: <3E5A38C8.9030709@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk>

I've just been playing around with test78.

I have a UK keyboard on a toshiba laptop.

GB Pound symbol works fine in ;
* Netscape (forwarded via ssh from Solaris server)
* xedit (forwarded via ssh from Solaris server)
* xedit (local cygwin copy)

It doesn't work (seems to print has followed by carrige return);
* local rxvt
* local xterm
* remote xterm (ssh from Solaris box)

I also tried under Mandrake Linux 9 - xterm handles the GB pound symbol 
correctly when run under gnome and blackbox window managers.

jeb


Colin Harrison wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Works for me with and without XF86Config file.
> I'm gb (UK) pc105 wxpsp1.
> My pound sign works OK for me (I can type 'em but I can't keep 'em!)
> 
> Thanks
> Colin
> 
> 
> 



From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Feb 24 15:33:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 15:33:00 -0000
Subject: distorted menus with multiwindow
In-Reply-To: <F91Yn83KsIno0NM2nSS0000b8f7@hotmail.com>
References: <F91Yn83KsIno0NM2nSS0000b8f7@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3E5A3B53.6060203@msu.edu>

JS,

I am pretty sure that is a bug.  Sometimes with emacs you can cause a 
clipping region to become orphaned such that no application will be able 
to draw in that region until you restart XFree86.  Your bug may be 
related, or not.  I have learned to live with the bug, for now :)

Harold

J S wrote:
> I am running a VMS application on XFree86 (version Server-Test 78) which 
> ideally I'd like to run on multiwindows, but when I click on some of the 
> menus e.g. File, Edit, Help, not all of the options are displayed, or 
> sometimes after the menu has dropped down and back up again, fragments 
> of it remain behind on my screen. Is this a bug or is there a flag I can 
> set to stop this happening.
> 
> If I use rootless mode with window maker I don't get this problem though.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> JS.
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
> Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 
> http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=186&DI=1059 
> 
> 


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Feb 24 15:34:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 15:34:00 -0000
Subject: [PATCH] default XKB settings
In-Reply-To: <3E5A38C8.9030709@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk>
References: <000001c2dc12$afa8ea00$0200a8c0@STRAIGHTRUNNING.COM> <3E5A38C8.9030709@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk>
Message-ID: <3E5A3B8F.1020102@msu.edu>

Great, thanks for the confirmations guys.

Harold

Jeremy Wilkins wrote:
> I've just been playing around with test78.
> 
> I have a UK keyboard on a toshiba laptop.
> 
> GB Pound symbol works fine in ;
> * Netscape (forwarded via ssh from Solaris server)
> * xedit (forwarded via ssh from Solaris server)
> * xedit (local cygwin copy)
> 
> It doesn't work (seems to print has followed by carrige return);
> * local rxvt
> * local xterm
> * remote xterm (ssh from Solaris box)
> 
> I also tried under Mandrake Linux 9 - xterm handles the GB pound symbol 
> correctly when run under gnome and blackbox window managers.
> 
> jeb
> 
> 
> Colin Harrison wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> Works for me with and without XF86Config file.
>> I'm gb (UK) pc105 wxpsp1.
>> My pound sign works OK for me (I can type 'em but I can't keep 'em!)
>>
>> Thanks
>> Colin
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 


From ford@vss.fsi.com  Mon Feb 24 17:10:00 2003
From: ford@vss.fsi.com (Brian Ford)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:10:00 -0000
Subject: Lesstif update?
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302241106200.19283-100000@eos>

Cygwin's version of LessTif seems about a year behind.  Are there any
plans to update it?  Is it simply a matter of compiling and bundling for
setup, or are there significant local changes that need to ported forward?

I could really use some of the newer layout bug fixes.  Let me know if I
can help.  Thanks.

-- 
Brian Ford
Senior Realtime Software Engineer
VITAL - Visual Simulation Systems
FlightSafety International
Phone: 314-551-8460
Fax:   314-551-8444


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Feb 24 17:36:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:36:00 -0000
Subject: Lesstif update?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302241106200.19283-100000@eos>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302241106200.19283-100000@eos>
Message-ID: <3E5A57FC.2030301@msu.edu>

Nope.  I released it just to get people started with a few 
Cygwin/XFree86 packages.  Nobody has really stepped up to start 
maintaining packages for Cygwin/XFree86, so there won't be any new 
releases from me.  Of course, we are always looking for volunteers to 
start releasing new and updated packages.  It wasn't hard... took me 
less than two hours.

Harold

Brian Ford wrote:
> Cygwin's version of LessTif seems about a year behind.  Are there any
> plans to update it?  Is it simply a matter of compiling and bundling for
> setup, or are there significant local changes that need to ported forward?
> 
> I could really use some of the newer layout bug fixes.  Let me know if I
> can help.  Thanks.
> 


From Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de  Mon Feb 24 17:48:00 2003
From: Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de (Benjamin Riefenstahl)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:48:00 -0000
Subject: default XKB settings
In-Reply-To: <3E5A38C8.9030709@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk>
References: <000001c2dc12$afa8ea00$0200a8c0@STRAIGHTRUNNING.COM>
	<3E5A38C8.9030709@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk>
Message-ID: <m365r9lgcx.fsf@cicero.benny.turtle-trading.net>

Hi all,

Jeremy Wilkins <jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
> It doesn't work (seems to print has followed by carrige return);
> * local rxvt
> * local xterm
> * remote xterm (ssh from Solaris box)

The pound is U+00A3 according to charmap.exe.  Are you sure that it's
not just a wrong readline setting?  The following lines in ~/.inputrc
or /etc/inputrc would help if that were the case:

  set convert-meta Off
  set output-meta On

so long, benny


From ford@vss.fsi.com  Mon Feb 24 18:07:00 2003
From: ford@vss.fsi.com (Brian Ford)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:07:00 -0000
Subject: Lesstif update?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302241106200.19283-100000@eos>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302241202400.19283-100000@eos>

On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote:

> Nope. I released it just to get people started with a few Cygwin/XFree86
> packages. Nobody has really stepped up to start maintaining packages for
> Cygwin/XFree86, so there won't be any new releases from me. Of course, we
> are always looking for volunteers to start releasing new and updated
> packages. It wasn't hard... took me less than two hours.
>
Well, I don't know if I can really maintain it for the long term, but I
would be happy to update it this time and deal with any short term issues
that result.  Would that be ok?

I am still confused, though.  Are there any Cygwin specific patches in the
current release?  I guess I can just download the source and do a diff.

Please CC me on the reply.  Thanks.

> On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Brian Ford wrote:
>
> > Cygwin's version of LessTif seems about a year behind.  Are there any
> > plans to update it?  Is it simply a matter of compiling and bundling
> > for setup, or are there significant local changes that need to ported
> > forward?
> >
> > I could really use some of the newer layout bug fixes.  Let me know if  I
> > can help.  Thanks.
>

-- 
Brian Ford
Senior Realtime Software Engineer
VITAL - Visual Simulation Systems
FlightSafety International
Phone: 314-551-8460
Fax:   314-551-8444


From gegub@alectoris.com  Mon Feb 24 18:14:00 2003
From: gegub@alectoris.com (Denise Novak)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:14:00 -0000
Subject: Experienced maniacs mastrubate when showing their victim a gun
Message-ID: <20030224011506.cRjiKh2VS6ZG@alectoris.com>

Victim cries when rapisd inserts a gun between her titts

http://gibakem.jakulator.com/


From ford@vss.fsi.com  Mon Feb 24 18:30:00 2003
From: ford@vss.fsi.com (Brian Ford)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:30:00 -0000
Subject: Lesstif update?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302241202400.19283-100000@eos>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302241228570.19283-100000@eos>

On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Brian Ford wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
>
> > Nope. I released it just to get people started with a few Cygwin/XFree86
> > packages. Nobody has really stepped up to start maintaining packages for
> > Cygwin/XFree86, so there won't be any new releases from me. Of course, we
> > are always looking for volunteers to start releasing new and updated
> > packages. It wasn't hard... took me less than two hours.
> >
> Well, I don't know if I can really maintain it for the long term, but I
> would be happy to update it this time and deal with any short term issues
> that result.  Would that be ok?
>
> I am still confused, though.  Are there any Cygwin specific patches in the
> current release?  I guess I can just download the source and do a diff.
>
I answered my own question here.

Why did you choose to disable shared?

> Please CC me on the reply.  Thanks.
>

-- 
Brian Ford
Senior Realtime Software Engineer
VITAL - Visual Simulation Systems
FlightSafety International
Phone: 314-551-8460
Fax:   314-551-8444


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Feb 24 19:09:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:09:00 -0000
Subject: Lesstif update?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302241202400.19283-100000@eos>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302241202400.19283-100000@eos>
Message-ID: <3E5A6DED.2070708@msu.edu>



Brian Ford wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
> 
> 
>>Nope. I released it just to get people started with a few Cygwin/XFree86
>>packages. Nobody has really stepped up to start maintaining packages for
>>Cygwin/XFree86, so there won't be any new releases from me. Of course, we
>>are always looking for volunteers to start releasing new and updated
>>packages. It wasn't hard... took me less than two hours.
>>
> 
> Well, I don't know if I can really maintain it for the long term, but I
> would be happy to update it this time and deal with any short term issues
> that result.  Would that be ok?
> 

Yes, that is fine with me.  So long as the new package passes a few 
initial tests.  I belong to the camp that thinks that "maintenance mode" 
for a package means that it won't be pulled from distribution unless it 
actively destroys your system, regardless of how out of date it becomes 
(until someone releases a newer package, that is).  So yeah, that is 
fine with me.


> I am still confused, though.  Are there any Cygwin specific patches in the
> current release?  I guess I can just download the source and do a diff.
> 

I don't think there were any Cygwin specific patches.  You might notice 
that the Lesstif guys say that they are Cygwin compatible... so you 
should not need to many modifications if they have kept that promise.

Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Feb 24 19:12:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:12:00 -0000
Subject: Lesstif update?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302241228570.19283-100000@eos>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302241228570.19283-100000@eos>
Message-ID: <3E5A6E8F.2050702@msu.edu>

Brian Ford wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Brian Ford wrote:
> 
> 
>>On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Nope. I released it just to get people started with a few Cygwin/XFree86
>>>packages. Nobody has really stepped up to start maintaining packages for
>>>Cygwin/XFree86, so there won't be any new releases from me. Of course, we
>>>are always looking for volunteers to start releasing new and updated
>>>packages. It wasn't hard... took me less than two hours.
>>>
>>
>>Well, I don't know if I can really maintain it for the long term, but I
>>would be happy to update it this time and deal with any short term issues
>>that result.  Would that be ok?
>>
>>I am still confused, though.  Are there any Cygwin specific patches in the
>>current release?  I guess I can just download the source and do a diff.
>>
> 
> I answered my own question here.
> 
> Why did you choose to disable shared?
> 
> 

Simple.  Lesstif didn't build or run with shared libraries.  Building 
shared libraries on Windows/Cygwin is significantly different than 
building shared libraries on *nix.  Lesstif was using one of those 
things that was just not compatible with what the Cygwin shared library 
tools could support at the time.  There has been a lot going on with 
shared library support on Cygwin in the past year, so it is possible 
that with the correct incantations Lesstif could use shared libraries. 
Be care though... just because it builds doesn't mean that it will run 
correctly without crashing.  Always do a test run.

Harold


>>Please CC me on the reply.  Thanks.
>>
> 
> 


From ai26@sternwarte.uni-erlangen.de  Mon Feb 24 19:47:00 2003
From: ai26@sternwarte.uni-erlangen.de (Michael Lemke)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:47:00 -0000
Subject: ctwm + xmkmf II
Message-ID: <XT4WJHC8LXTZVMH85ECEBLRQRMFD.3e5a769d@micha>

Wow, thanks.  That certainly helped a lot.  Now I have an apparantly
working ctwm on my Winows box.  Looks like at work...

However, shouldn't the xmkmf have produces exactly the line that
you added manually?  At least on Linux it does.
And gcc spewed out a lot of warnings but that is certainly something 
for the ctwm mailing list.

Anyway, thanks again,
Michael


On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 08:26:57PM +0100, Michael Lemke wrote:
> Now that cygwin-xfree is getting better and better I really like to get
> ctwm compiled.  However, imake still can't cope with ctwm's Imakefile.
> I posted about this in September 2001 but the problem hadn't been
> resolved then. I am still not able to solve this myself, maybe someone
> can take another look. This is the original post:
[...]

To me this looks more like a problem with ctwm than with cygwin,
because I had essentially the same problems when building ctwm-3.6 on
Solaris (SunOS 5.8). But with some tweaking I got it compiled and
running on both (instructions follow).

If you read ctwm's mailing list, you will have seen that ctwm got a
new and highly motivated developer. I've seen the Imakefile on his
TODO-list, so we can hope for improvements in version 3.7. As an
interim solution you may try what I did.

Another problem is that the latest bison has problems with gram.y. I
don't remember, but I guess I used an older version to produce
gram.{c,h}, which I attached to this e-mail. With that the following
works for me on Win2k with an up-to-date cygwin distribution. Hope it
helps. -- Daniel

tar zxvf ctwm-3.6.tgz
tar zxvf ctwm-3.6-gram.tgz
cd ctwm-3.6
xmkmf
echo "COBJS = gram.o lex.o deftwmrc.o add_window.o gc.o list.o ctwm.o parse.o menus.o events.o resize.o util.o version.o iconmgr.o cursor.o 
icons.o workmgr.o windowbox.o clicktofocus.o" >>Makefile
echo 'cob: $(COBJS)' >>Makefile
cp ../ctwm-3.6-gram/gram.? .
make cob
make ctwm.exe

# Now test it:
XWin.exe :1&
./ctwm.exe -display :1&



From ford@vss.fsi.com  Mon Feb 24 21:01:00 2003
From: ford@vss.fsi.com (Brian Ford)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:01:00 -0000
Subject: Lesstif update?
In-Reply-To: <3E5A6E8F.2050702@msu.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302241457300.19283-100000@eos>

I have lesstif-0.93.40-1-src.tar.bz2 and lesstif-0.93.40-1.tar.bz2 ready
to roll.

I read on the lesstif installation page about the dll issues, so it is
still static.

It passes various sanity checks for our applications.

I do not have a public place to post it, so let me know how you would like
to retrieve it.

-- 
Brian Ford
Senior Realtime Software Engineer
VITAL - Visual Simulation Systems
FlightSafety International
Phone: 314-551-8460
Fax:   314-551-8444


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Feb 24 21:57:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:57:00 -0000
Subject: Lesstif update?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302241457300.19283-100000@eos>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302241457300.19283-100000@eos>
Message-ID: <3E5A9562.8010409@msu.edu>

Brian,

Do you have AIM?  If so, email me privately and I will email you my 
screen name, then we can do the transfer via AIM.  If not, then just 
email the files to me in an attachment (make sure not to mail them to 
the mailing list).  I can take attachments up to about 50 MB.

Harold

Brian Ford wrote:
> I have lesstif-0.93.40-1-src.tar.bz2 and lesstif-0.93.40-1.tar.bz2 ready
> to roll.
> 
> I read on the lesstif installation page about the dll issues, so it is
> still static.
> 
> It passes various sanity checks for our applications.
> 
> I do not have a public place to post it, so let me know how you would like
> to retrieve it.
> 


From stefan.thiede@philips.com  Tue Feb 25 00:01:00 2003
From: stefan.thiede@philips.com (stefan.thiede@philips.com)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:01:00 -0000
Subject: XWin-Test78 lockup withXP screensaver
Message-ID: <OF20555E96.07D583D5-ON88256CD7.00834F4D@diamond.philips.com>

Hi Folks,

I'm using XWin-Test78 and when I get out of the XP screensaver,
the machine completely locks up. Not even Ctrl-Del-Alt will help
anymore, I'll have to use the power switch to get it back.

I consistently had this behaviour with Test76/77/78

Any hint on how to track it down ?

Toshiba 5005-507 with NVidia GeForce 440 Go, latest Bios/drivers.

Best Regards

Stefan



From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Feb 25 00:04:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:04:00 -0000
Subject: XWin-Test78 lockup withXP screensaver
In-Reply-To: <OF20555E96.07D583D5-ON88256CD7.00834F4D@diamond.philips.com>
References: <OF20555E96.07D583D5-ON88256CD7.00834F4D@diamond.philips.com>
Message-ID: <3E5AB323.7030207@msu.edu>

Stefan,

I would assume that the last few messages printed in /tmp/XWinrl.log 
would be useful.  On the other hand, XWin.exe may be dying before it 
logs any messages.  In any case, send in /temp/XWinrl.log and let us see 
what we have got.

Thanks for testing,

Harold

stefan.thiede@philips.com wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> 
> I'm using XWin-Test78 and when I get out of the XP screensaver,
> the machine completely locks up. Not even Ctrl-Del-Alt will help
> anymore, I'll have to use the power switch to get it back.
> 
> I consistently had this behaviour with Test76/77/78
> 
> Any hint on how to track it down ?
> 
> Toshiba 5005-507 with NVidia GeForce 440 Go, latest Bios/drivers.
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Stefan
> 
> 


From stefan.thiede@philips.com  Tue Feb 25 00:04:00 2003
From: stefan.thiede@philips.com (stefan.thiede@philips.com)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:04:00 -0000
Subject: XWin-Test78 lockup withXP screensaver
Message-ID: <OF660A928F.F2C60333-ON88256CD8.000039A0@diamond.philips.com>

I'm using

X -mulitwindow

Stefan




From Stefan.Thiede@gmx.net  Tue Feb 25 00:15:00 2003
From: Stefan.Thiede@gmx.net (Stefan Thiede)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:15:00 -0000
Subject: XWin-Test78 lockup withXP screensaver
Message-ID: <26307.1046132102@www6.gmx.net>

Please find /tmp/XWinrl.log attached

Stefan

-- 
+++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more  http://www.gmx.net +++
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From rbelenov@yandex.ru  Tue Feb 25 07:45:00 2003
From: rbelenov@yandex.ru (Roman Belenov)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 07:45:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86-cygwin & KDE & national keybord layouts
In-Reply-To: <262888765.20030220234721@serebryakov.spb.ru> (Lev
 Serebryakov's message of "Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:47:21 +0300")
References: <262888765.20030220234721@serebryakov.spb.ru>
Message-ID: <usmucolbi.fsf@yandex.ru>

Lev Serebryakov <lev@serebryakov.spb.ru> writes:

> Hello, cygwin-xfree! How are you?
>
>   Does somebody use KDE under cygwin XFree86 (of course, KDE is
>   started on UNIX, not on Win+cygwin) and national keyboard layout?

Works for me. It seems that KDE settings can only disable
international layout - I don't have keyboard switcher applet on the
panel, switching via control-shift (as defined by local xkb settings)
works.

-- 
 							With regards, Roman.


From vervoom@hotmail.com  Tue Feb 25 16:46:00 2003
From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 16:46:00 -0000
Subject: multiwindow crash on resolution 1280
Message-ID: <F80zTT4BcHIlUKphKkB00011e49@hotmail.com>

Harold,

Sorry to reply to this so late. If he starts xwin with -engine 1 that works 
fine. The problem is that multiwindow seems to be the only mode that works 
with his application and it has to be run with this resolution.


>
>JS,
>
>What happens if he runs in 1280x1024 with "-engine 1" instead of
>"-multiwindow"?
>
>Please send in a log from that run.  I suspect it will be the same.
>
>Is 1280x1024 the maximum resolution that he can run in, or is there a 
>higher
>resolution that works just fine with -multiwindow?  I am just trying to
>figure out if this is a problem where the largest size is not possible but
>anything smaller than that is okay, or if it is just that one size in the
>middle has problems but all the rest are okay.
>
>Oh yeah, and this was done with 4.2.0-25, right?
>
>Thanks for testing,
>
>Harold
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
>[mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of J S
>Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:30 AM
>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>Subject: multiwindow crash on resolution 1280
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I have a customer trying out multiwindow mode on windows 95. He usually has
>his resolution set to 1280 x 1024, but for some reason multiwindow won't
>work with this. If I change his display settings to anything else though, 
>it
>does work. Here is the log:
>
>ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
>winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024
>winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
>OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
>(EE) Unable to locate/open config file
>InitOutput - Error reading config file
>winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me
>winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
>winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000013
>InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
>winSetEngine - Multi Window => ShadowGDI
>winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per
>pixel
>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1280 h: 1024
>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1280 h: 1024
>winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1280 h 1024 r 1280 l 0 b
>1024 t 0
>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1280 height: 1024 depth:
>16
>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1280 height: -1024 depth: 16 
>size
>image: 2621440
>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Shadow blit failure
>winFinishScreenInitFB - Could not allocate framebuffer
>winScreenInit - winFinishScreenInit () failed
>
>Fatal server error:
>InitOutput - Couldn't add screen 0
>
>Thanks for any help,
>
>JS.
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>Stay in touch with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.co.uk


_________________________________________________________________
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Feb 25 17:53:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 17:53:00 -0000
Subject: multiwindow crash on resolution 1280
In-Reply-To: <F80zTT4BcHIlUKphKkB00011e49@hotmail.com>
References: <F80zTT4BcHIlUKphKkB00011e49@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3E5BAD8F.1010503@msu.edu>

JS,

That doesn't make any sense.  There should not be any difference at all 
when running with ``-engine 1'' instead of ``-multiwindow'', as far as 
the DIB creation is concerned.  The only thing I can think of is that 
this is perhaps running on a system with very little available memory at 
the time of startup... multiwindow mode might take just enough memory to 
make the allocation of memory for the DIB fail.  That is the only thing 
that makes any sense.

Oh yeah, and I ask you to send in the log file from -engine 1, which 
would help in diagnosing this problem.

Harold

J S wrote:
> Harold,
> 
> Sorry to reply to this so late. If he starts xwin with -engine 1 that 
> works fine. The problem is that multiwindow seems to be the only mode 
> that works with his application and it has to be run with this resolution.
> 
> 
>>
>> JS,
>>
>> What happens if he runs in 1280x1024 with "-engine 1" instead of
>> "-multiwindow"?
>>
>> Please send in a log from that run.  I suspect it will be the same.
>>
>> Is 1280x1024 the maximum resolution that he can run in, or is there a 
>> higher
>> resolution that works just fine with -multiwindow?  I am just trying to
>> figure out if this is a problem where the largest size is not possible 
>> but
>> anything smaller than that is okay, or if it is just that one size in the
>> middle has problems but all the rest are okay.
>>
>> Oh yeah, and this was done with 4.2.0-25, right?
>>
>> Thanks for testing,
>>
>> Harold
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
>> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of J S
>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:30 AM
>> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>> Subject: multiwindow crash on resolution 1280
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a customer trying out multiwindow mode on windows 95. He 
>> usually has
>> his resolution set to 1280 x 1024, but for some reason multiwindow won't
>> work with this. If I change his display settings to anything else 
>> though, it
>> does work. Here is the log:
>>
>> ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
>> winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024
>> winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
>> OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
>> (EE) Unable to locate/open config file
>> InitOutput - Error reading config file
>> winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me
>> winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
>> winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000013
>> InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
>> winSetEngine - Multi Window => ShadowGDI
>> winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per
>> pixel
>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1280 h: 1024
>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1280 h: 1024
>> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1280 h 1024 r 1280 l 0 b
>> 1024 t 0
>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1280 height: 1024 
>> depth:
>> 16
>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1280 height: -1024 depth: 
>> 16 size
>> image: 2621440
>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Shadow blit failure
>> winFinishScreenInitFB - Could not allocate framebuffer
>> winScreenInit - winFinishScreenInit () failed
>>
>> Fatal server error:
>> InitOutput - Couldn't add screen 0
>>
>> Thanks for any help,
>>
>> JS.
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> Stay in touch with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.co.uk
> 
> 
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
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> 


From ed@scrunge.org  Tue Feb 25 18:10:00 2003
From: ed@scrunge.org (ed)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 18:10:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86: Removing dummy root window on Rootless/Multiwindow mode
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10302251005050.31054-100000@zarquon>

To The Esteemed List:

	I've been using Cygwin ever since the release of the multiwindow
test server. It's been excellent! Thanks for all the hard work, especially
Kensuke Matsuzaki for putting it all together in the beginning.

	My question is this: Is it possible to run Cygwin Xfree
-rootless without having to have the dummy root window? If not, why
not?



From AnChizhik@ekmail.com  Tue Feb 25 20:10:00 2003
From: AnChizhik@ekmail.com (Chizhik, Andrew)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:10:00 -0000
Subject: Problem with installing XFree86 on Win 2000
Message-ID: <31A0379C50ACD511848F00306E11876B37F00E@ny01snt05.ekis.com>

Hi everybody.

When I try to install XFree86-base (and, consequently, the files that option
selects), the installation process hangs. Specifically, the two options that
cause the installation to hang are XFree86-fenc and XFree86-fnts (both
versions of these two options fail to install).

The version of the installer is 2.249.2.5 (which, I believe, is the latest
version). 

When installing XFree86-fenc, the installations hangs on the file
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/adobe-dingbats.enc.gz
When installing XFree86-fnts, the installations hangs on the file
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/charB08.pcf.gz

If it's of any help, my machine is a Pentium 3, running Windows 2000. If
there is any more additional info I can provide, please let me know.

Andrew Chizhik


From lev@serebryakov.spb.ru  Tue Feb 25 20:23:00 2003
From: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru (Lev Serebryakov)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:23:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86-cygwin & KDE & national keybord layouts
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302221247460.1499-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302221247460.1499-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>
Message-ID: <140107308031.20030225232235@serebryakov.spb.ru>

Hello, Alexander!
Saturday, February 22, 2003, 3:24:37 PM, you wrote:

AG> Can you please run xev during this test and mail me the output?
  Here it is.

  Here are two logs:

  xev-nokde.log:
    (1) xev started
    (2) xev clicked
    (3) "qaz" typed (without quotes, of course)
    (4) Ctrl+Shift pressed (layout change)
    (5) "qaz" typed (three Russian letters, really)
    (6) Ctrl+Shift pressed (layout change)
    (7) "qaz" typed

  xev-kde.log:
    (1) xev started in background
    (2) startkde started
    (3) xev clicked
    (4) "qaz" typed (without quotes, of course)
    (5) Ctrl+Shift pressed (layout change)
    (6) "qaz" typed (three Russian letters, really)
    (7) Ctrl+Shift pressed (layout change)
    (8) "qaz" typed

  I've removed all mouse and mapping events from logs.
  It seems, it is KDE 3.1 problem, not XFree86/cygwin :(

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From lev@serebryakov.spb.ru  Tue Feb 25 20:55:00 2003
From: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru (Lev Serebryakov)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:55:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86-cygwin & KDE & national keybord layouts
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302221247460.1499-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302221247460.1499-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>
Message-ID: <1851063265.20030225235646@serebryakov.spb.ru>

Hello, Alexander!
Saturday, February 22, 2003, 3:24:37 PM, you wrote:

AG> Can you please run xev during this test and mail me the output?
  And here is third logs:

  xev-kdeswt.log:
    (1) xev started in background
    (2) startkde started
    (3) xev clicked
    (4) "qaz" typed (without quotes, of course)
    (5) KDE switch icon clicked (layout change)
    (6) "qaz" typed (three Russian letters, really)
    (7) KDE switch icon clicked (layout change)
    (8) "qaz" typed

  I've removed all mouse and mapping events from logs.

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From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu  Tue Feb 25 21:15:00 2003
From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:15:00 -0000
Subject: Building/running GIMP under Cygwin
In-Reply-To: <200302251529.AA60358914@mail.technologease.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302251611570.27438-100000@slinky.cs.nyu.edu>

On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Chris Olive wrote:

> Well, I've searched the 'net high and low for information on this, and
> have found nothing that fully resolves the issue, but...  Has anyone
> successfully built and run GIMP under Cygwin?  I know there exists a
> Win32 version of GIMP, but I want to run under Cygwin in XFree.
>
> GIMP uses GTK+, glib and who knows what else.  I've visited a few pages
> that purport GIMP's ability to run under Cygwin (with the supposed
> dependances), but normal ./configure's and ./make's of the packages
> involved end up returning errors.  If anyone has worked through all this
> and has a STEP BY STEP w/success, I'd be glad to see it.  A few days of
> dinking with it have not produced success on my part.  There's gotta be
> a secret incantation...
>
> chris

Chris,

You may get a better answer from the <cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com>
list, which is intended for discussing all things X-related (on Cygwin).
I've redirected this message there, and reset the Reply-To: for your
convenience.  Please remove <cygwin at cygwin dot com> from follow-up
messages.
	Igor
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  -- /usr/games/fortune


From rama@arl.wustl.edu  Tue Feb 25 22:08:00 2003
From: rama@arl.wustl.edu (Ramaprabhu Janakiraman)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 22:08:00 -0000
Subject: compiling gv
Message-ID: <3E5BE955.6040602@arl.wustl.edu>

Hi,
    I am trying to compile gv-3.5.8 on cygwin 1.3.20-1, and
have the following problems: ld complains when
I compile the source with --enable-auto-imports,
and the compile went through when i turned on
--enable-runtime-pseudo-reloc, but gv exits with
"Error: Unresolved inheritance operation" when  I
run it. I suspect this is related to the problem
discussed in this thread on this list: 
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-12/msg00189.html

Could someone help me find a way to fix this without having
to compile cygwin/Xfree86 myself? Did the proposed
code (to redefine _XtInherit to a constant) not make
it into the release yet?

thanks in advance,
-ram


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Feb 26 00:15:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 00:15:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86: Removing dummy root window on Rootless/Multiwindow mode
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10302251005050.31054-100000@zarquon>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10302251005050.31054-100000@zarquon>
Message-ID: <3E5C072C.1040208@msu.edu>

There isn't a dummy root window when you run with -rootless.

There is, however, a dummy root window when you run with -multiwindow.

Search the mailing list archives to my multiple responses on how 
easy/hard removing that dummy window may be.

Harold

ed wrote:
> To The Esteemed List:
> 
> 	I've been using Cygwin ever since the release of the multiwindow
> test server. It's been excellent! Thanks for all the hard work, especially
> Kensuke Matsuzaki for putting it all together in the beginning.
> 
> 	My question is this: Is it possible to run Cygwin Xfree
> -rootless without having to have the dummy root window? If not, why
> not?
> 
> 


From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Wed Feb 26 11:50:00 2003
From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:50:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86-cygwin & KDE & national keybord layouts
In-Reply-To: <140107308031.20030225232235@serebryakov.spb.ru>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302261236010.1704-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>

Lev Serebryakov wrote:

> Hello, Alexander!
> Saturday, February 22, 2003, 3:24:37 PM, you wrote:
> 
> AG> Can you please run xev during this test and mail me the output?
>   Here it is.

With KDE

KeyPress event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x200001,
    root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 106982015, (61,104), root:(65,127),
    state 0x4, keycode 50 (keysym 0xffe1, Shift_L), same_screen YES,
    XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""

Without KDE

KeyPress event, serial 21, synthetic NO, window 0x200001,
    root 0x36, subw 0x0, time 106512875, (18,118), root:(20,120),
    state 0x4, keycode 50 (keysym 0xfe0a, ISO_Prev_Group), same_screen YES,
    XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""

This means KDE does reset the ISO_Prev_Group keycode. 

With KDE you can select the keyboard layout from the control center. 
Please try the russian layouts there if they work. If not, you can
also try resetting the keymap to the one the server used from the config 
file via setxkbmap.

bye
    ago

NP: Blutengel - Wonderland
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From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info  Wed Feb 26 13:24:00 2003
From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:24:00 -0000
Subject: Fonts install in wrong directory
Message-ID: <3E5CC004.1010606@email-server.info>

Hello.

I just downloaded the cygwin installer, because I wanted to install
cygwin (who would have thought that? *G*).

Well, I told the installer, to install to C:\cygnus instead of the
default C:\cygwin.  Nonetheless, some files ended up in C:\cygwin, for
example the files from XFree86-fnts and XFree86-f100.


Alexander Skwar
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");
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From Daniel.Daboul@motorola.com  Wed Feb 26 13:32:00 2003
From: Daniel.Daboul@motorola.com (Daniel Daboul)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:32:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86: Removing dummy root window on Rootless/Multiwindow mode
In-Reply-To: <3E5C072C.1040208@msu.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10302251005050.31054-100000@zarquon> <3E5C072C.1040208@msu.edu>
Message-ID: <20030226133150.GS26113@legend.msil.sps.mot.com>

On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 07:15:40PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
[...]
> There is, however, a dummy root window when you run with -multiwindow.
> 
> Search the mailing list archives to my multiple responses on how 
> easy/hard removing that dummy window may be.
> 
> ed wrote:
[...]
> >	My question is this: Is it possible to run Cygwin Xfree
> >-rootless without having to have the dummy root window? If not, why
> >not?

In case somebody ever takes steps to remove the root window, I want to
suggest to keep it as an option. I like to de-iconify it to quickly
hide all windows not on that display, including all window manager
decorations. This is potentially useful to get a kind of "presentation
mode" for applications that don't have a "full-screen" mode built
in. One can even use xsetroot.

In the current version the root window also covers Windows' task
bar. Does that make the task manager the only common tool to get it
back to the iconified state? -- Daniel


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Feb 26 14:51:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 14:51:00 -0000
Subject: Fonts install in wrong directory
In-Reply-To: <3E5CC004.1010606@email-server.info>
References: <3E5CC004.1010606@email-server.info>
Message-ID: <3E5CD47C.6050508@msu.edu>

Alexander,

That is because you had installed Cygwin/XFree86 before and your mount 
paths are still in the registry.  Take a look... run mount.

Harold

Alexander Skwar wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I just downloaded the cygwin installer, because I wanted to install
> cygwin (who would have thought that? *G*).
> 
> Well, I told the installer, to install to C:\cygnus instead of the
> default C:\cygwin.  Nonetheless, some files ended up in C:\cygwin, for
> example the files from XFree86-fnts and XFree86-f100.
> 
> 
> Alexander Skwar


From vervoom@hotmail.com  Wed Feb 26 15:10:00 2003
From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:10:00 -0000
Subject: multiwindow crash on resolution 1280
Message-ID: <F66b3LG1UZmFSbYhNM000016557@hotmail.com>

Here you go Harold. This is the log from running

Xwin -ac -engine 1

ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024
winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
(EE) Unable to locate/open config file
InitOutput - Error reading config file
winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000013
InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
winSetEngine - Multi Window => ShadowGDI
winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per 
pixel
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1280 h: 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1280 h: 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1280 h 1024 r 1280 l 0 b 
1024 t
0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1280 height: 1024 depth: 
16
winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1280 height: -1024 depth: 16 size 
ima
ge: 2621440
winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Shadow blit failure
winFinishScreenInitFB - Could not allocate framebuffer

winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Shadow blit failure
winFinishScreenInitFB - Could not allocate framebuffer
winScreenInit - winFinishScreenInit () failed

Fatal server error:
InitOutput - Couldn't add screen 0


>
>JS,
>
>That doesn't make any sense.  There should not be any difference at all 
>when running with ``-engine 1'' instead of ``-multiwindow'', as far as the 
>DIB creation is concerned.  The only thing I can think of is that this is 
>perhaps running on a system with very little available memory at the time 
>of startup... multiwindow mode might take just enough memory to make the 
>allocation of memory for the DIB fail.  That is the only thing that makes 
>any sense.
>
>Oh yeah, and I ask you to send in the log file from -engine 1, which would 
>help in diagnosing this problem.
>
>Harold
>
>J S wrote:
>>Harold,
>>
>>Sorry to reply to this so late. If he starts xwin with -engine 1 that 
>>works fine. The problem is that multiwindow seems to be the only mode that 
>>works with his application and it has to be run with this resolution.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>JS,
>>>
>>>What happens if he runs in 1280x1024 with "-engine 1" instead of
>>>"-multiwindow"?
>>>
>>>Please send in a log from that run.  I suspect it will be the same.
>>>
>>>Is 1280x1024 the maximum resolution that he can run in, or is there a 
>>>higher
>>>resolution that works just fine with -multiwindow?  I am just trying to
>>>figure out if this is a problem where the largest size is not possible 
>>>but
>>>anything smaller than that is okay, or if it is just that one size in the
>>>middle has problems but all the rest are okay.
>>>
>>>Oh yeah, and this was done with 4.2.0-25, right?
>>>
>>>Thanks for testing,
>>>
>>>Harold
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
>>>[mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of J S
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:30 AM
>>>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>>>Subject: multiwindow crash on resolution 1280
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I have a customer trying out multiwindow mode on windows 95. He usually 
>>>has
>>>his resolution set to 1280 x 1024, but for some reason multiwindow won't
>>>work with this. If I change his display settings to anything else though, 
>>>it
>>>does work. Here is the log:
>>>
>>>ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
>>>winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024
>>>winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
>>>OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
>>>(EE) Unable to locate/open config file
>>>InitOutput - Error reading config file
>>>winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me
>>>winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
>>>winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000013
>>>InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
>>>winSetEngine - Multi Window => ShadowGDI
>>>winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per
>>>pixel
>>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1280 h: 1024
>>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1280 h: 1024
>>>winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>>winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1280 h 1024 r 1280 l 0 b
>>>1024 t 0
>>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
>>>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1280 height: 1024 
>>>depth:
>>>16
>>>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1280 height: -1024 depth: 16 
>>>size
>>>image: 2621440
>>>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Shadow blit failure
>>>winFinishScreenInitFB - Could not allocate framebuffer
>>>winScreenInit - winFinishScreenInit () failed
>>>
>>>Fatal server error:
>>>InitOutput - Couldn't add screen 0
>>>
>>>Thanks for any help,
>>>
>>>JS.
>>>
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From shlomo.tzidkani@discretix.com  Wed Feb 26 15:12:00 2003
From: shlomo.tzidkani@discretix.com (Shlomo Tzidkani)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:12:00 -0000
Subject: install All packages - Unable to locate DLL
Message-ID: <000101c2dda9$3c99f750$f70810ac@discretix.com>

Hello,

I installed all Cygwin packages  (2.249.2.5)
But then while start I got the following windows error message: grep.exe
Unable to locate DLL: the dynamic link library cygpcre.dll could not be
found in the specific path ?
( the cygwin shell message : bash: mkdir: command not found
bash: cd: /home/shlomot: No such file or directory)

Why ?
Best Regards,
Shlomo





From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Feb 26 15:27:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:27:00 -0000
Subject: multiwindow crash on resolution 1280
In-Reply-To: <F66b3LG1UZmFSbYhNM000016557@hotmail.com>
References: <F66b3LG1UZmFSbYhNM000016557@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3E5CDCDA.8000304@msu.edu>

JS,

Nope, you made a mistake.  See this line from the log file:
winSetEngine - Multi Window => ShadowGDI

You sent in your -multiwindow log file again.  Notice that the log file 
ends in failure.

Harold

J S wrote:
> Here you go Harold. This is the log from running
> 
> Xwin -ac -engine 1
> 
> ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
> winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024
> winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
> OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
> (EE) Unable to locate/open config file
> InitOutput - Error reading config file
> winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me
> winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000013
> InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
> winSetEngine - Multi Window => ShadowGDI
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per 
> pixel
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1280 h: 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1280 h: 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1280 h 1024 r 1280 l 0 
> b 1024 t
> 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1280 height: 1024 
> depth: 16
> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1280 height: -1024 depth: 16 
> size ima
> ge: 2621440
> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Shadow blit failure
> winFinishScreenInitFB - Could not allocate framebuffer
> 
> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Shadow blit failure
> winFinishScreenInitFB - Could not allocate framebuffer
> winScreenInit - winFinishScreenInit () failed
> 
> Fatal server error:
> InitOutput - Couldn't add screen 0
> 
> 
>>
>> JS,
>>
>> That doesn't make any sense.  There should not be any difference at 
>> all when running with ``-engine 1'' instead of ``-multiwindow'', as 
>> far as the DIB creation is concerned.  The only thing I can think of 
>> is that this is perhaps running on a system with very little available 
>> memory at the time of startup... multiwindow mode might take just 
>> enough memory to make the allocation of memory for the DIB fail.  That 
>> is the only thing that makes any sense.
>>
>> Oh yeah, and I ask you to send in the log file from -engine 1, which 
>> would help in diagnosing this problem.
>>
>> Harold
>>
>> J S wrote:
>>
>>> Harold,
>>>
>>> Sorry to reply to this so late. If he starts xwin with -engine 1 that 
>>> works fine. The problem is that multiwindow seems to be the only mode 
>>> that works with his application and it has to be run with this 
>>> resolution.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> JS,
>>>>
>>>> What happens if he runs in 1280x1024 with "-engine 1" instead of
>>>> "-multiwindow"?
>>>>
>>>> Please send in a log from that run.  I suspect it will be the same.
>>>>
>>>> Is 1280x1024 the maximum resolution that he can run in, or is there 
>>>> a higher
>>>> resolution that works just fine with -multiwindow?  I am just trying to
>>>> figure out if this is a problem where the largest size is not 
>>>> possible but
>>>> anything smaller than that is okay, or if it is just that one size 
>>>> in the
>>>> middle has problems but all the rest are okay.
>>>>
>>>> Oh yeah, and this was done with 4.2.0-25, right?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for testing,
>>>>
>>>> Harold
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
>>>> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of J S
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:30 AM
>>>> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>>>> Subject: multiwindow crash on resolution 1280
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have a customer trying out multiwindow mode on windows 95. He 
>>>> usually has
>>>> his resolution set to 1280 x 1024, but for some reason multiwindow 
>>>> won't
>>>> work with this. If I change his display settings to anything else 
>>>> though, it
>>>> does work. Here is the log:
>>>>
>>>> ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
>>>> winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024
>>>> winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
>>>> OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
>>>> (EE) Unable to locate/open config file
>>>> InitOutput - Error reading config file
>>>> winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me
>>>> winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
>>>> winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000013
>>>> InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
>>>> winSetEngine - Multi Window => ShadowGDI
>>>> winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits 
>>>> per
>>>> pixel
>>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1280 h: 1024
>>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1280 h: 1024
>>>> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>>> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1280 h 1024 r 1280 
>>>> l 0 b
>>>> 1024 t 0
>>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
>>>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1280 height: 1024 
>>>> depth:
>>>> 16
>>>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1280 height: -1024 depth: 
>>>> 16 size
>>>> image: 2621440
>>>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Shadow blit failure
>>>> winFinishScreenInitFB - Could not allocate framebuffer
>>>> winScreenInit - winFinishScreenInit () failed
>>>>
>>>> Fatal server error:
>>>> InitOutput - Couldn't add screen 0
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>>
>>>> JS.
>>>>
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From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info  Wed Feb 26 17:26:00 2003
From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:26:00 -0000
Subject: Fonts install in wrong directory
In-Reply-To: <3E5CD47C.6050508@msu.edu>
References: <3E5CC004.1010606@email-server.info> <3E5CD47C.6050508@msu.edu>
Message-ID: <3E5CF8D6.7040302@email-server.info>

Harold L Hunt II schrieb:
> Alexander,
> 
> That is because you had installed Cygwin/XFree86 before and your mount 
> paths are still in the registry.  Take a look... run mount.

Okay, that's true - however, why do all the other packages install in
C:\cygnus?  Or rather, I'd expect cygwin to be installed into the
directory I specified when installing.


Alexander Skwar
-- 
# Okay, what on Earth is this one supposed to be used for?
        2.4.0 linux/drivers/char/cp437.uni


From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info  Wed Feb 26 17:38:00 2003
From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:38:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 78
In-Reply-To: <NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCOEJCDGAA.huntharo@msu.edu>
References: <NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCOEJCDGAA.huntharo@msu.edu>
Message-ID: <3E5CFB94.5060701@email-server.info>

Harold L Hunt II schrieb:
> Links:
> 
> I just posted Test 78 to the server development page:
> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/
> 
> You can install the Test 78 package via setup.exe by selecting the
> 'test' package (and be sure to check the 'Bin' box): XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-26

How do I install the Test 78 package via setup.exe?  I downloaded
setup.exe and entered http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ as a User
URL.  I then clicked on Add and selected the URL I just entered.  This
results in an error: "Unable to get setup.ini from
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/".  I also tried to use one of
the mirror URLs;
ftp://ftp.univie.ac.at/packages/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/.  With this
URL, I don't get an error - however, there's no "test" package in the list.



Alexander Skwar
-- 
/* Fuck.  The f-word is here so you can grep for it :-)  */
        2.4.3 linux/include/asm-mips/mmu_context.h


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Feb 26 18:33:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:33:00 -0000
Subject: Fonts install in wrong directory
In-Reply-To: <3E5CF8D6.7040302@email-server.info>
References: <3E5CC004.1010606@email-server.info> <3E5CD47C.6050508@msu.edu> <3E5CF8D6.7040302@email-server.info>
Message-ID: <3E5D0879.7090004@msu.edu>

Alexander,

Well, I can sympathize with what you would expect.  However, we have 
limited time here... so we have to pay attention to the issues that 
matter.  You must be about the 3rd user in over a year to complain about 
this "problem".  So, I don't think that devoting any time to burying 
this issue will be worthwhile.

Harold

Alexander Skwar wrote:
> Harold L Hunt II schrieb:
> 
>>Alexander,
>>
>>That is because you had installed Cygwin/XFree86 before and your mount 
>>paths are still in the registry.  Take a look... run mount.
> 
> 
> Okay, that's true - however, why do all the other packages install in
> C:\cygnus?  Or rather, I'd expect cygwin to be installed into the
> directory I specified when installing.
> 
> 
> Alexander Skwar


From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info  Wed Feb 26 18:58:00 2003
From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:58:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 78
In-Reply-To: <3E5CFB94.5060701@email-server.info>
References: <NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCOEJCDGAA.huntharo@msu.edu> <3E5CFB94.5060701@email-server.info>
Message-ID: <3E5D0E54.8080900@email-server.info>

Alexander Skwar schrieb:

> How do I install the Test 78 package via setup.exe?  I downloaded

Found it.  In the package selection dialog, you've got to click on the
version number and repeat clicking until you see 4.2.0-26.  That's Test
78, isn't it?

Alexander Skwar
-- 
if (user_specified)
    /* Didn't work, but the user is convinced this is the
     * place. */
        2.4.0-test2 /usr/src/linux/drivers/parport/parport_pc.c


From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu  Wed Feb 26 19:12:00 2003
From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 19:12:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 78
In-Reply-To: <3E5D0E54.8080900@email-server.info>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302261411310.8104-100000@slinky.cs.nyu.edu>

On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Alexander Skwar wrote:

> Alexander Skwar schrieb:
>
> > How do I install the Test 78 package via setup.exe?  I downloaded
>
> Found it.  In the package selection dialog, you've got to click on the
> version number and repeat clicking until you see 4.2.0-26.  That's Test
> 78, isn't it?
>
> Alexander Skwar

Umm, yes, it says so right in the announcement...
	Igor
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Oh, boy, virtual memory! Now I'm gonna make myself a really *big* RAMdisk!
  -- /usr/games/fortune


From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info  Wed Feb 26 19:41:00 2003
From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 19:41:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 78
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302261411310.8104-100000@slinky.cs.nyu.edu>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302261411310.8104-100000@slinky.cs.nyu.edu>
Message-ID: <3E5D186F.4090205@email-server.info>

Igor Pechtchanski schrieb:

> Umm, yes, it says so right in the announcement...

Hm, okay, I didn't understand it that way.  I looked for a package
called "test", because it says:

| You can install the Test 78 package via setup.exe by selecting the
| 'test' package....

Maybe I'm too dumb, but how about a different wording?

Like:

You can install the Test 78 package via setup.exe by selecting version
4.2.0-26 of the XFree86-xserv package.

Or maybe:

You can install the Test 78 package via setup.exe by selecting the
following version of the XFree86-xserv package:		4.2.0-26


Alexander Skwar
-- 
/*
 * Hash table gook..
 */
	2.4.0-test2 /usr/src/linux/fs/buffer.c


From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info  Wed Feb 26 19:42:00 2003
From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 19:42:00 -0000
Subject: Fonts install in wrong directory
In-Reply-To: <3E5D0879.7090004@msu.edu>
References: <3E5CC004.1010606@email-server.info> <3E5CD47C.6050508@msu.edu> <3E5CF8D6.7040302@email-server.info> <3E5D0879.7090004@msu.edu>
Message-ID: <3E5D18A1.9090501@email-server.info>

Harold L Hunt II schrieb:

> limited time here... so we have to pay attention to the issues that 
> matter.  You must be about the 3rd user in over a year to complain about 

Okay, I can live with that.

How about a note on the setup screen?  Something like:

Note: If you previously installed Cygwin to another directory, parts of
Cygwin might be installed to this location.

Alexander Skwar
-- 
panic("Attempted to kill the idle task!");
	2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/kernel/exit.c


From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info  Wed Feb 26 20:13:00 2003
From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:13:00 -0000
Subject: Fonts install in wrong directory
In-Reply-To: <m33cmax106.fsf@telia.com>
References: <3E5CC004.1010606@email-server.info> <3E5CD47C.6050508@msu.edu>	<3E5CF8D6.7040302@email-server.info> <3E5D0879.7090004@msu.edu>	<3E5D18A1.9090501@email-server.info> <m33cmax106.fsf@telia.com>
Message-ID: <3E5D1FCA.2040701@email-server.info>

Andrew Markebo schrieb:
> So the 'missing' files aren't placed in the correct subdir? What does

Correct.  I specified C:\cygnus as the installation target, and some
files/package (the XFree86 font packages to be exact) installed in
C:\cygwin, because that's where I had cygwin previously installed.

> mount say in bash?

I since removed C:\cygwin and C:\cygnus and re-installed in the
"correct" directory C:\cygwin:

$ mount
C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts on /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts type
system (binmode)
C:\cygwin\bin on /usr/bin type user (binmode)
C:\cygwin\lib on /usr/lib type user (binmode)
C:\cygwin on / type user (binmode)
c: on /cygdrive/c type user (binmode,noumount)
h: on /cygdrive/h type user (binmode,noumount)
m: on /cygdrive/m type user (binmode,noumount)
s: on /cygdrive/s type user (binmode,noumount)

> Or well.. naah not in the main screen, there would be loads of text
> then, the users have to teach to look through the mailinglist :-) 

Well, a weekly FAQ would help ;)  No, I don't volunteer :)
Alexander Skwar
-- 
/* Nobody will ever see this message :-) */
panic("Cannot initialize video hardware
");
	2.0.38 /usr/src/linux/arch/m68k/atari/atafb.c


From dangkevin@hotmail.com  Wed Feb 26 20:40:00 2003
From: dangkevin@hotmail.com (Kevin Dang)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:40:00 -0000
Subject: How to link GCC to compile X Window programs
Message-ID: <F96gu59Vvjvxo6AmX3q000143f8@hotmail.com>

Hi all,

I have been trying to get GCC to compile my X Window programs, but it could 
not find the library. I try to create a makefile and use "gccmakedep" to 
link up the X lib, and X include file, so that I can compile and run X 
program. I have been unsuccessful so far, can somebody please help me? If 
possible, can somebody send me their make file or show me how to link up the 
library to be able to compile and run X window programs. Any help will be 
appreciated. Than You

Kevin Dang

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From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Wed Feb 26 20:57:00 2003
From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:57:00 -0000
Subject: How to link GCC to compile X Window programs
In-Reply-To: <F96gu59Vvjvxo6AmX3q000143f8@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302262155440.6068-100000@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>

On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Kevin Dang wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I have been trying to get GCC to compile my X Window programs, but it could 
> not find the library. I try to create a makefile and use "gccmakedep" to 
> link up the X lib, and X include file, so that I can compile and run X 
> program. I have been unsuccessful so far, can somebody please help me? If 
> possible, can somebody send me their make file or show me how to link up the 
> library to be able to compile and run X window programs. Any help will be 
> appreciated. Than You

add -I/usr/X11R6/include to the compile commandline and -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 
to the link commandline.

bye	
	ago


From qisu@lanl.gov  Thu Feb 27 00:36:00 2003
From: qisu@lanl.gov (Qisu Zou)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 00:36:00 -0000
Subject: problem of middle button in xfig
Message-ID: <3E5D5E7B.2060200@lanl.gov>

Hi,    I have a problem with the middle button of the mouse  in xfig 
with cygwin.

    Dell Work station, Windows2000,  cygwin  1.3.20-1,   xfig  3.2.4,

    It works to draw rectangular, circle, but as has problem to draw 
lines,  clicking left button starts  to draw a line, the upper right of 
the xfig window indecates that the middle button sets the final point, 
but  clicking the middle button does not have any effect, the line is 
continue to be drawn. The right button cancels the drawing.  I have 
tried emulating 3 button, did not work.  The middle button is set as 
"paste" from control pannel.

    xfig works in my laptop,  with windowXP,  cygwin 1.3.19, xfig 3.2.4.

    Appreciated any help.

    Thank you
     Qisu Zou


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Feb 27 05:42:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 05:42:00 -0000
Subject: Lesstif update II
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302261126190.19283-102000@eos>
Message-ID: <NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCKEKNDGAA.huntharo@msu.edu>

Brian,

Thanks for the packages.  I am posting them now.  That is great that you
caught that bug.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Ford
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 12:34 PM
> To: Harold L Hunt II
> Subject: Lesstif update II
>
>
> I am sorry to fill your mail box once again.
>
> Here is an updated package.  Changes include:
> Added configure options --disable-debug and --enable-production
> lib/Xm/Textf.c (expose): Check for null pointer before dereferencing.
>
> The second fix resulted from our internal testing.  I have submitted the
> trivial patch upstream to lesstif and am awaiting comment.
>
> I chose not to bump the revision number because I believe you have not
> released my previous package.  Is there anything particular holding this
> up?
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Brian Ford


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Feb 27 05:50:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 05:50:00 -0000
Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-26
Message-ID: <NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCAEKODGAA.huntharo@msu.edu>

The XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-26 package has been updated in the Cygwin
distribution.


Changes:

1) Automatically detect several non-U.S. keyboard configurations by
querying Windows for the current locale.  (Alexander Gottwald)

2) Add a check for the height not being toggled to a positive integer
when the Shadow GDI DIB is created.  One user has reported it so far,
so it may be due to a single video card or driver version.  Also, this
may not fix the problem.  (Harold Hunt)


--
Harold Hunt

To update your installation, click on the "Install Cygwin now" link
on the http://cygwin.com/ web page.  This downloads setup.exe to
your system.  Save it and run setup, answer the questions and pick
up 'XFree86-xserv' from the 'XFree86' category.  You may need to
click the "Full" button if it doesn't show up.

Note that downloads from sources.redhat.com (aka cygwin.com) aren't
allowed due to bandwidth limitations.  This means that you will need
to find a mirror which has this update.

In the US, ftp://archive.progeny.com/cygwin/
is a reliable high bandwidth connection.

In Japan, ftp://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/gnu/gnu-win32/ is usually
up-to-date.

In DK, http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/cygwin/ is usually up-to-date.

If one of the above doesn't have the latest version of this package
you can either wait for the site to be updated or find another
mirror.

Please  send questions or comments to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list at:
cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com .  If you want to subscribe go to:
http://cygwin.com/lists.html I would appreciate if you would use
this mailing list rather than emailing me directly.  This includes
ideas and comments about the setup utility or Cygwin/XFree86 in general.

If you want to make a point or ask a question the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing
list is the appropriate place.


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Feb 27 05:53:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 05:53:00 -0000
Subject: problem of middle button in xfig
In-Reply-To: <3E5D5E7B.2060200@lanl.gov>
Message-ID: <NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCEEKODGAA.huntharo@msu.edu>

The middle button is set as paste within which control panel?  I have used
xfig on both Windows 2000 and Windows XP and I never had any problems with
the middle mouse button.  Sounds like you may have a problem that is
specified to your mouse/driver/settings.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Qisu Zou
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:40 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: problem of middle button in xfig
>
>
> Hi,    I have a problem with the middle button of the mouse  in xfig
> with cygwin.
>
>     Dell Work station, Windows2000,  cygwin  1.3.20-1,   xfig  3.2.4,
>
>     It works to draw rectangular, circle, but as has problem to draw
> lines,  clicking left button starts  to draw a line, the upper right of
> the xfig window indecates that the middle button sets the final point,
> but  clicking the middle button does not have any effect, the line is
> continue to be drawn. The right button cancels the drawing.  I have
> tried emulating 3 button, did not work.  The middle button is set as
> "paste" from control pannel.
>
>     xfig works in my laptop,  with windowXP,  cygwin 1.3.19, xfig 3.2.4.
>
>     Appreciated any help.
>
>     Thank you
>      Qisu Zou
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Feb 27 05:55:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 05:55:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 78
In-Reply-To: <3E5D186F.4090205@email-server.info>
Message-ID: <NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCCEKPDGAA.huntharo@msu.edu>

I will take that into consideration the next time I make a release
announcement.  In fact, the only reason I wouldn't do anything about it is
if I forget to update the wording when I copy and paste from an old release
announcement.  That is correct, I do not have a template for those :)

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Alexander Skwar
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 2:42 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 78
>
>
> Igor Pechtchanski schrieb:
>
> > Umm, yes, it says so right in the announcement...
>
> Hm, okay, I didn't understand it that way.  I looked for a package
> called "test", because it says:
>
> | You can install the Test 78 package via setup.exe by selecting the
> | 'test' package....
>
> Maybe I'm too dumb, but how about a different wording?
>
> Like:
>
> You can install the Test 78 package via setup.exe by selecting version
> 4.2.0-26 of the XFree86-xserv package.
>
> Or maybe:
>
> You can install the Test 78 package via setup.exe by selecting the
> following version of the XFree86-xserv package:		4.2.0-26
>
>
> Alexander Skwar
> --
> /*
>  * Hash table gook..
>  */
> 	2.4.0-test2 /usr/src/linux/fs/buffer.c
>


From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info  Thu Feb 27 08:56:00 2003
From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 08:56:00 -0000
Subject: Cannot recompile X
Message-ID: <3E5DD29C.2000809@email-server.info>

Hi.

I tried to recompil X 4.2.0.  So I downloaded X420src-1.tgz, -2 and -3
from ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.2.0/source/ and unpacked it in
~/X-Sources.

Next I created a dir ~/X-Sources/build/std, cd'd to this directory and
did lndir ../../xc, as described in the Cygwin/XFree86 Contributor's
Guide on http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/cygwin-xfree-cg.html.

I then ran "make World > World.log 2>&1 && make install > install.log
2>&1 && make install.man > install.man.log 2>&1".  After quite some
time, everything was done.  Besides quite a lot of "<command line>:1:1:
warning: "__STDC__" redefined" messages, there were no errors (I
searched the World.log for "error").

Now, when I start "startx" on the Cygwin bash prompt, I get a Windows
error message box:

Die Anwendung konnte nicht richtig initialisiert werden (0xc0000022).

There's no /tmp/XWinrl.log file which I could post here :(

Any ideas about what went wrong during compilation?  I used gcc 3.2.

Thanks a lot,



Alexander Skwar
-- 
panic("IRQ, you lose...");
	2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/arch/mips/sgi/kernel/indy_int.c


From vervoom@hotmail.com  Thu Feb 27 10:56:00 2003
From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:56:00 -0000
Subject: multiwindow crash on resolution 1280
Message-ID: <F741j8S5KEtRIQl3LHs000689f0@hotmail.com>

And now, the correct error log! Sorry about that Harold. I'm told that Xwin 
failed to start this time as you said would happen:


ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024
winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
(EE) Unable to locate/open config file
InitOutput - Error reading config file
winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000013
InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
winSetEngine - Using user's preference: 1
winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per 
pixel
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1280 h: 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1280 h: 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1274 h 994 r 1274 l 0 b 994 
t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1274 height: 994 depth: 16
winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1274 height: -994 depth: 16 size 
imag
e: 2532712
winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Created shadow stride: 0
winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00007c00 000003e0 0000001f
winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00007c00 000003e0 0000001f BPRGB 5 d 15 bpp 
16
winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00007c00 000003e0 0000001f
winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00007c00 000003e0 0000001f BPRGB 5 d 15 bpp 
16
winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winFinishScreenInitFB - returning
winScreenInit - returning
InitOutput - Returning.
(EE) No primary keyboard configured
(==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard
Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options = 
"(n
ull)"
Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing 
from
list!
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing 
from
list!
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing 
from
list!


>JS,
>
>Nope, you made a mistake.  See this line from the log file:
>winSetEngine - Multi Window => ShadowGDI
>
>You sent in your -multiwindow log file again.  Notice that the log file 
>ends in failure.
>
>Harold
>
>J S wrote:
>>Here you go Harold. This is the log from running
>>
>>Xwin -ac -engine 1
>>
>>ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
>>winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024
>>winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
>>OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
>>(EE) Unable to locate/open config file
>>InitOutput - Error reading config file
>>winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me
>>winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
>>winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000013
>>InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
>>winSetEngine - Multi Window => ShadowGDI
>>winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per 
>>pixel
>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1280 h: 1024
>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1280 h: 1024
>>winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1280 h 1024 r 1280 l 0 b 
>>1024 t
>>0
>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
>>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1280 height: 1024 depth: 
>>16
>>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1280 height: -1024 depth: 16 
>>size ima
>>ge: 2621440
>>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Shadow blit failure
>>winFinishScreenInitFB - Could not allocate framebuffer
>>
>>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Shadow blit failure
>>winFinishScreenInitFB - Could not allocate framebuffer
>>winScreenInit - winFinishScreenInit () failed
>>
>>Fatal server error:
>>InitOutput - Couldn't add screen 0
>>
>>
>>>
>>>JS,
>>>
>>>That doesn't make any sense.  There should not be any difference at all 
>>>when running with ``-engine 1'' instead of ``-multiwindow'', as far as 
>>>the DIB creation is concerned.  The only thing I can think of is that 
>>>this is perhaps running on a system with very little available memory at 
>>>the time of startup... multiwindow mode might take just enough memory to 
>>>make the allocation of memory for the DIB fail.  That is the only thing 
>>>that makes any sense.
>>>
>>>Oh yeah, and I ask you to send in the log file from -engine 1, which 
>>>would help in diagnosing this problem.
>>>
>>>Harold
>>>
>>>J S wrote:
>>>
>>>>Harold,
>>>>
>>>>Sorry to reply to this so late. If he starts xwin with -engine 1 that 
>>>>works fine. The problem is that multiwindow seems to be the only mode 
>>>>that works with his application and it has to be run with this 
>>>>resolution.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>JS,
>>>>>
>>>>>What happens if he runs in 1280x1024 with "-engine 1" instead of
>>>>>"-multiwindow"?
>>>>>
>>>>>Please send in a log from that run.  I suspect it will be the same.
>>>>>
>>>>>Is 1280x1024 the maximum resolution that he can run in, or is there a 
>>>>>higher
>>>>>resolution that works just fine with -multiwindow?  I am just trying to
>>>>>figure out if this is a problem where the largest size is not possible 
>>>>>but
>>>>>anything smaller than that is okay, or if it is just that one size in 
>>>>>the
>>>>>middle has problems but all the rest are okay.
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh yeah, and this was done with 4.2.0-25, right?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for testing,
>>>>>
>>>>>Harold
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
>>>>>[mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of J S
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:30 AM
>>>>>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>>>>>Subject: multiwindow crash on resolution 1280
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>I have a customer trying out multiwindow mode on windows 95. He usually 
>>>>>has
>>>>>his resolution set to 1280 x 1024, but for some reason multiwindow 
>>>>>won't
>>>>>work with this. If I change his display settings to anything else 
>>>>>though, it
>>>>>does work. Here is the log:
>>>>>
>>>>>ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
>>>>>winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024
>>>>>winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
>>>>>OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
>>>>>(EE) Unable to locate/open config file
>>>>>InitOutput - Error reading config file
>>>>>winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me
>>>>>winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
>>>>>winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000013
>>>>>InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
>>>>>winSetEngine - Multi Window => ShadowGDI
>>>>>winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits 
>>>>>per
>>>>>pixel
>>>>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1280 h: 1024
>>>>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1280 h: 1024
>>>>>winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>>>>winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>>>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1280 h 1024 r 1280 l 0 
>>>>>b
>>>>>1024 t 0
>>>>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
>>>>>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1280 height: 1024 
>>>>>depth:
>>>>>16
>>>>>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1280 height: -1024 depth: 16 
>>>>>size
>>>>>image: 2621440
>>>>>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Shadow blit failure
>>>>>winFinishScreenInitFB - Could not allocate framebuffer
>>>>>winScreenInit - winFinishScreenInit () failed
>>>>>
>>>>>Fatal server error:
>>>>>InitOutput - Couldn't add screen 0
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for any help,
>>>>>
>>>>>JS.
>>>>>
>>>>>_________________________________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
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>


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From askwar@email-server.info  Thu Feb 27 11:27:00 2003
From: askwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:27:00 -0000
Subject: Cannot recompile X
In-Reply-To: <3E5DD29C.2000809@email-server.info>
References: <3E5DD29C.2000809@email-server.info>
Message-ID: <3E5DF606.2020609@email-server.info>

Alexander Skwar schrieb:

> Now, when I start "startx" on the Cygwin bash prompt, I get a Windows
> error message box:

Hmm, I tried running /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit in gdb, but somehow that's not
successful:

$ gdb /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit
GNU gdb 2003-02-19-cvs (cygwin-special)
Copyright 2003 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain
conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i686-pc-cygwin"...(no debugging symbols
found)...
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.

Program exited with code 0200.
You can't do that without a process to debug.
(gdb) backtrace
No stack.

Any ideas?
Alexander Skwar
-- 
/* So there I am, in the middle of my `netfilter-is-wonderful'
   talk in Sydney, and someone asks `What happens if you try
   to enlarge a 64k packet here?'.  I think I said something
   eloquent like `fuck'. */
        2.4.3 linux/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_nat_ftp.c


From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Thu Feb 27 11:29:00 2003
From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:29:00 -0000
Subject: Cannot recompile X
In-Reply-To: <3E5DF606.2020609@email-server.info>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302271228340.6068-100000@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>

On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Alexander Skwar wrote:

> Alexander Skwar schrieb:
> 
> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
> 
> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
> 
> Program exited with code 0200.
> You can't do that without a process to debug.
> (gdb) backtrace
> No stack.

Are the dlls all executable? 

bye
	ago
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From eabuxc@broadwise.com  Thu Feb 27 11:45:00 2003
From: eabuxc@broadwise.com (Paula Dickinson)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:45:00 -0000
Subject: Bonking the Dog
Message-ID: <20030226062205.1r52Yzyr36IU@broadwise.com>

2 guyz and a gerl doing a Goat

http://nakoowim.blowdog.info/


From askwar@email-server.info  Thu Feb 27 12:46:00 2003
From: askwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 12:46:00 -0000
Subject: Cannot recompile X
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302271228340.6068-100000@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302271228340.6068-100000@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>
Message-ID: <3E5E0876.7090603@email-server.info>

Alexander Gottwald schrieb:

> Are the dlls all executable? 

No.

After changing this, I can run startx.
Alexander Skwar
-- 
printk(KERN_WARNING "Multi-volume CD somehow got mounted.
");
	2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/fs/isofs/inode.c


From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info  Thu Feb 27 13:25:00 2003
From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:25:00 -0000
Subject: Debug build of X doesn't seem to load XF86Config
Message-ID: <3E5E11A2.9010109@email-server.info>

Hi.

As described in the first posting of "Cannot recompile X", I also
compiled a debug build of X.  For this, I ran "./config/util/makeg.sh
World".

When I now run "startx" to start the debug build of X, it seems to
ignore my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.  I think so, because if it would load
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4, it would read the FontPath entries I specified
there.  Now, both with and without XF86Config, I get the same number of
fonts (xlsfonts | wc -l).  In the build provided by cygwin, there's a
difference if XF86Config-4 is present.

I also tried renaming the file to /etc/X11/XF86Config.

Did I miss something when compiling X?

Thanks,

Alexander Skwar
-- 
printk("ufs_read_super: fucking Sun blows me
");
	2.0.38 /usr/src/linux/fs/ufs/ufs_super.c


From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Thu Feb 27 13:34:00 2003
From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:34:00 -0000
Subject: Debug build of X doesn't seem to load XF86Config
In-Reply-To: <3E5E11A2.9010109@email-server.info>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302271432190.6068-100000@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>

On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Alexander Skwar wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> As described in the first posting of "Cannot recompile X", I also
> compiled a debug build of X.  For this, I ran "./config/util/makeg.sh
> World".
> 
> When I now run "startx" to start the debug build of X, it seems to
> ignore my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. 

What does the logfile tell?


> I think so, because if it would load
> /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, it would read the FontPath entries I specified
> there.  Now, both with and without XF86Config, I get the same number of
> fonts (xlsfonts | wc -l).  

xset q does list the fontpath directly.

bye
	ago
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From hzhr@linuxforum.net  Thu Feb 27 13:46:00 2003
From: hzhr@linuxforum.net (David Huang)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:46:00 -0000
Subject: Debug build of X doesn't seem to load XF86Config
In-Reply-To: <3E5E11A2.9010109@email-server.info>
References: <3E5E11A2.9010109@email-server.info>
Message-ID: <3E5E1706.7050306@linuxforum.net>

Alexander Skwar wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> As described in the first posting of "Cannot recompile X", I also
> compiled a debug build of X.  For this, I ran "./config/util/makeg.sh
> World".
> 
> When I now run "startx" to start the debug build of X, it seems to
> ignore my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.  I think so, because if it would load
> /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, it would read the FontPath entries I specified
> there.  Now, both with and without XF86Config, I get the same number of
> fonts (xlsfonts | wc -l).  In the build provided by cygwin, there's a
> difference if XF86Config-4 is present.
> 
> I also tried renaming the file to /etc/X11/XF86Config.
> 
> Did I miss something when compiling X?
What's the version number of the xc source are you use?
Perhaps you need update the xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin sources from
  http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/
or try xc CVS snapshots?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Alexander Skwar



From hzhr@linuxforum.net  Thu Feb 27 14:07:00 2003
From: hzhr@linuxforum.net (David Huang)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:07:00 -0000
Subject: Lesstif update II
Message-ID: <3E5E1C06.2020504@linuxforum.net>

On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 00:42:18 -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
> Brian,
> 
> Thanks for the packages.  I am posting them now.  That is great that you
> caught that bug.
> 
> Harold
Hi! Thanks for the update.
But has this problem too:
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2003-02/msg00029.html

Please fix.

Thanks.


From askwar@email-server.info  Thu Feb 27 14:14:00 2003
From: askwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:14:00 -0000
Subject: Debug build of X doesn't seem to load XF86Config
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302271432190.6068-100000@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302271432190.6068-100000@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>
Message-ID: <3E5E1D1C.3080800@email-server.info>

Alexander Gottwald schrieb:

> What does the logfile tell?

/tmp/XWin.log:

ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1600 h 1200
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits
per pixel
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1136 1600
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1136 1600
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1594 h 1104 r 1594 l
0 b 1104 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 6376
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 32
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winCloseScreenShadowDDNL () - Freeing screen resources

> xset q does list the fontpath directly.

Thanks.  It doesn't list my directories.

However, I'm not after setting the FontPath.  That was just an example.

As I already said in November 2002 (Thread "xkbcomp.exe segfaults"), I'm
having problems getting a german keyboard layout, because xkbcomp.exe
segfaults.

So I tried to redo what I did way back then.  And there I also just
build a Debug build - IIRC.


Alexander Skwar
-- 
/* James M doesn't say fuck enough. */
        2.4.3 linux/net/core/netfilter.c


From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Thu Feb 27 14:18:00 2003
From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:18:00 -0000
Subject: Debug build of X doesn't seem to load XF86Config
In-Reply-To: <3E5E1D1C.3080800@email-server.info>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302271517240.6068-100000@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>

On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Alexander Skwar wrote:

> Alexander Gottwald schrieb:
> 
> > What does the logfile tell?
> 
> /tmp/XWin.log:
> 
> ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
> winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1600 h 1200
> _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits
> per pixel
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1136 1600
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1136 1600
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1594 h 1104 r 1594 l
> 0 b 1104 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 6376
> winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 32
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winCloseScreenShadowDDNL () - Freeing screen resources

This seems to be an old version. Are these CVS sources?

bye
	ago
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 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723


From askwar@email-server.info  Thu Feb 27 14:37:00 2003
From: askwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:37:00 -0000
Subject: Debug build of X doesn't seem to load XF86Config
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302271517240.6068-100000@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302271517240.6068-100000@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>
Message-ID: <3E5E22AB.1010500@email-server.info>

Alexander Gottwald schrieb:

> This seems to be an old version. Are these CVS sources?

No.  Just like back in November 2002, I used X420.

Alexander Skwar
-- 
/*
 * For moronic filesystems that do not allow holes in file.
 * We may have to extend the file.
 */
	2.4.0-test2 /usr/src/linux/fs/buffer.c


From Klaus.Moschner@gmx.de  Thu Feb 27 14:39:00 2003
From: Klaus.Moschner@gmx.de (Klaus.Moschner@gmx.de)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:39:00 -0000
Subject: WMaker crashes when starting with startxwin.bat
Message-ID: <7511.1046356780@www5.gmx.net>

Hi all,

I just installed Cygwin using the Internet installation including XFree86
and wmaker.
I can start X without any problem and I can start wmaker from the bash
prompt.

The only problem I have is with startxwin.bat. I changed the window manager
in this file from twm to wmaker, but whenever I try, I get the following
error:
Window Maker received signal 11.
I see that X is up and it even changed the background color according to the
settings in startxwin.bat.

In the archive for this mailing list I found the suggestion to change the
HOME path settings, but either I did something wrong there, or the problem is
something else.

I can start wmaker using startxwin.sh and startx - no problem with this.
Just startxwin.bat is the problem and just with wmaker.

I'm really sorry if this is the wrong mailing list, or this is a real bug I
should have reported somewhere else. I just think this is probably not a bug,
because wmaker is running fine when started from the bash.

Thanks very much for any help.

Cheers,
Klaus

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From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Thu Feb 27 15:23:00 2003
From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:23:00 -0000
Subject: Debug build of X doesn't seem to load XF86Config
In-Reply-To: <3E5E22AB.1010500@email-server.info>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302271620440.1286-100000@lupus.ago.vpn>

Alexander Skwar wrote:

> Alexander Gottwald schrieb:
> 
> > This seems to be an old version. Are these CVS sources?
> 
> No.  Just like back in November 2002, I used X420.

4.2.0 had no configfile support
Use the CVS sources. They include a lot of fixes and changes since 4.2.0 
BTW: today 4.3.0 was released  

bye
    ago
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From ford@vss.fsi.com  Thu Feb 27 15:56:00 2003
From: ford@vss.fsi.com (Brian Ford)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:56:00 -0000
Subject: Lesstif update II
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302270943392.19283-100000@eos>

On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 22:09:10 +0800, David Huang wrote:

> Hi! Thanks for the update.
> But has this problem too:
> http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2003-02/msg00029.html
>
> Please fix.
>

I will try, but I need to understand what creates the link:
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults -> /etc/X11/app-defaults

I assume it is Cygwin standard then to use /etc/X11/app-defaults instead
of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults?

I seem to have this problem also, but did not notice because all our
applications use XAPPLRESDIR to find their app-defaults.  I do not believe
that my new package caused it, though.

I really need to know what creates that link and why so it can be fixed
in the proper place.  Lesstif does not current seem to me like that
place, but I could be convinced otherwise.

Thanks.

-- 
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Senior Realtime Software Engineer
VITAL - Visual Simulation Systems
FlightSafety International
Phone: 314-551-8460
Fax:   314-551-8444


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Feb 27 16:41:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:41:00 -0000
Subject: multiwindow crash on resolution 1280
In-Reply-To: <F741j8S5KEtRIQl3LHs000689f0@hotmail.com>
References: <F741j8S5KEtRIQl3LHs000689f0@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3E5E3FAF.4000504@msu.edu>

JS,

 > winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Created shadow stride: 0

Well, at the least they have the problem where the stride is being 
calculated as zero... they shouldn't be able to run at all.  Also... I 
don't understand why winAllocateFBShadowGDI is being called twice.

Here is what that section of the log should look like:

winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1394 height: 978 depth: 32
winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1394 height: 978 depth: 32 
size image: 5453328
winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Created shadow stride: 1394
winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff
winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 
bpp 32
winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()


Note the positive shadow stride and the fact that 
winInitVisualsShadowGDI is only being called once.

I have no clue what is going on here.  Basically I think that you have a 
less-than-cluefull user that is not telling you things that they have 
changed.  I won't say anything more about this issue until I see their 
startxwin.bat file mailed in.

Harold

J S wrote:
> And now, the correct error log! Sorry about that Harold. I'm told that 
> Xwin failed to start this time as you said would happen:
> 
> 
> ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
> winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024
> winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
> OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
> (EE) Unable to locate/open config file
> InitOutput - Error reading config file
> winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me
> winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000013
> InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
> winSetEngine - Using user's preference: 1
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per 
> pixel
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1280 h: 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1280 h: 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1274 h 994 r 1274 l 0 b 
> 994 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1274 height: 994 
> depth: 16
> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1274 height: -994 depth: 16 
> size imag
> e: 2532712
> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Created shadow stride: 0
> winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00007c00 000003e0 0000001f
> winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00007c00 000003e0 0000001f BPRGB 5 d 15 
> bpp 16
> winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00007c00 000003e0 0000001f
> winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00007c00 000003e0 0000001f BPRGB 5 d 15 
> bpp 16
> winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winFinishScreenInitFB - returning
> winScreenInit - returning
> InitOutput - Returning.
> (EE) No primary keyboard configured
> (==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard
> Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" 
> Options = "(n
> ull)"
> Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap
> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, 
> removing from
> list!
> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, 
> removing from
> list!
> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, 
> removing from
> list!
> 
> 
>> JS,
>>
>> Nope, you made a mistake.  See this line from the log file:
>> winSetEngine - Multi Window => ShadowGDI
>>
>> You sent in your -multiwindow log file again.  Notice that the log 
>> file ends in failure.
>>
>> Harold
>>
>> J S wrote:
>>
>>> Here you go Harold. This is the log from running
>>>
>>> Xwin -ac -engine 1
>>>
>>> ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
>>> winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024
>>> winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
>>> OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
>>> (EE) Unable to locate/open config file
>>> InitOutput - Error reading config file
>>> winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me
>>> winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
>>> winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000013
>>> InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
>>> winSetEngine - Multi Window => ShadowGDI
>>> winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits 
>>> per pixel
>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1280 h: 1024
>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1280 h: 1024
>>> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1280 h 1024 r 1280 l 
>>> 0 b 1024 t
>>> 0
>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
>>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1280 height: 1024 
>>> depth: 16
>>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1280 height: -1024 depth: 
>>> 16 size ima
>>> ge: 2621440
>>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Shadow blit failure
>>> winFinishScreenInitFB - Could not allocate framebuffer
>>>
>>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Shadow blit failure
>>> winFinishScreenInitFB - Could not allocate framebuffer
>>> winScreenInit - winFinishScreenInit () failed
>>>
>>> Fatal server error:
>>> InitOutput - Couldn't add screen 0
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> JS,
>>>>
>>>> That doesn't make any sense.  There should not be any difference at 
>>>> all when running with ``-engine 1'' instead of ``-multiwindow'', as 
>>>> far as the DIB creation is concerned.  The only thing I can think of 
>>>> is that this is perhaps running on a system with very little 
>>>> available memory at the time of startup... multiwindow mode might 
>>>> take just enough memory to make the allocation of memory for the DIB 
>>>> fail.  That is the only thing that makes any sense.
>>>>
>>>> Oh yeah, and I ask you to send in the log file from -engine 1, which 
>>>> would help in diagnosing this problem.
>>>>
>>>> Harold
>>>>
>>>> J S wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Harold,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry to reply to this so late. If he starts xwin with -engine 1 
>>>>> that works fine. The problem is that multiwindow seems to be the 
>>>>> only mode that works with his application and it has to be run with 
>>>>> this resolution.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JS,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What happens if he runs in 1280x1024 with "-engine 1" instead of
>>>>>> "-multiwindow"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please send in a log from that run.  I suspect it will be the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is 1280x1024 the maximum resolution that he can run in, or is 
>>>>>> there a higher
>>>>>> resolution that works just fine with -multiwindow?  I am just 
>>>>>> trying to
>>>>>> figure out if this is a problem where the largest size is not 
>>>>>> possible but
>>>>>> anything smaller than that is okay, or if it is just that one size 
>>>>>> in the
>>>>>> middle has problems but all the rest are okay.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh yeah, and this was done with 4.2.0-25, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for testing,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Harold
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
>>>>>> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of J S
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:30 AM
>>>>>> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>>>>>> Subject: multiwindow crash on resolution 1280
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a customer trying out multiwindow mode on windows 95. He 
>>>>>> usually has
>>>>>> his resolution set to 1280 x 1024, but for some reason multiwindow 
>>>>>> won't
>>>>>> work with this. If I change his display settings to anything else 
>>>>>> though, it
>>>>>> does work. Here is the log:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
>>>>>> winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024
>>>>>> winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
>>>>>> OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
>>>>>> (EE) Unable to locate/open config file
>>>>>> InitOutput - Error reading config file
>>>>>> winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me
>>>>>> winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
>>>>>> winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000013
>>>>>> InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
>>>>>> winSetEngine - Multi Window => ShadowGDI
>>>>>> winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 16 
>>>>>> bits per
>>>>>> pixel
>>>>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1280 h: 1024
>>>>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1280 h: 1024
>>>>>> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>>>>> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>>>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1280 h 1024 r 
>>>>>> 1280 l 0 b
>>>>>> 1024 t 0
>>>>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
>>>>>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1280 height: 
>>>>>> 1024 depth:
>>>>>> 16
>>>>>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1280 height: -1024 
>>>>>> depth: 16 size
>>>>>> image: 2621440
>>>>>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Shadow blit failure
>>>>>> winFinishScreenInitFB - Could not allocate framebuffer
>>>>>> winScreenInit - winFinishScreenInit () failed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fatal server error:
>>>>>> InitOutput - Couldn't add screen 0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JS.
>>>>>>
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Feb 27 16:43:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:43:00 -0000
Subject: Cannot recompile X
In-Reply-To: <3E5DF606.2020609@email-server.info>
References: <3E5DD29C.2000809@email-server.info> <3E5DF606.2020609@email-server.info>
Message-ID: <3E5E402E.30801@msu.edu>

The problem here is that you have to continue (press 'c') through the 
first two SIGSEGVs.  They are just C++ exceptions that are caught and 
handled by the pthread code... gdb is just telling you about them.  You 
have to tell gdb to just continue on and let the exception handling code 
handle the problem.

Harold

Alexander Skwar wrote:
> Alexander Skwar schrieb:
> 
> 
>>Now, when I start "startx" on the Cygwin bash prompt, I get a Windows
>>error message box:
> 
> 
> Hmm, I tried running /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit in gdb, but somehow that's not
> successful:
> 
> $ gdb /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit
> GNU gdb 2003-02-19-cvs (cygwin-special)
> Copyright 2003 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
> welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain
> conditions.
> Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
> There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
> This GDB was configured as "i686-pc-cygwin"...(no debugging symbols
> found)...
> (gdb) run
> Starting program: /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit
> 
> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
> 
> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
> 
> Program exited with code 0200.
> You can't do that without a process to debug.
> (gdb) backtrace
> No stack.
> 
> Any ideas?
> Alexander Skwar


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Feb 27 16:45:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:45:00 -0000
Subject: Debug build of X doesn't seem to load XF86Config
In-Reply-To: <3E5E11A2.9010109@email-server.info>
References: <3E5E11A2.9010109@email-server.info>
Message-ID: <3E5E408F.2010402@msu.edu>

Which branch did you checkout?  Did you get the default branch (would 
have XF86Config support) or the 4.2.0 branch (would not have XF86Config 
support)?

Harold

Alexander Skwar wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> As described in the first posting of "Cannot recompile X", I also
> compiled a debug build of X.  For this, I ran "./config/util/makeg.sh
> World".
> 
> When I now run "startx" to start the debug build of X, it seems to
> ignore my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.  I think so, because if it would load
> /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, it would read the FontPath entries I specified
> there.  Now, both with and without XF86Config, I get the same number of
> fonts (xlsfonts | wc -l).  In the build provided by cygwin, there's a
> difference if XF86Config-4 is present.
> 
> I also tried renaming the file to /etc/X11/XF86Config.
> 
> Did I miss something when compiling X?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Alexander Skwar


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Feb 27 16:47:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:47:00 -0000
Subject: Debug build of X doesn't seem to load XF86Config
In-Reply-To: <3E5E22AB.1010500@email-server.info>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302271517240.6068-100000@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> <3E5E22AB.1010500@email-server.info>
Message-ID: <3E5E413C.9090407@msu.edu>

Let me sum this up: I compiled Microsoft Windows 3.1 but it doesn't have 
  Internet Explorer 6.0... what happened?  Get it?

Harold

Alexander Skwar wrote:
> Alexander Gottwald schrieb:
> 
> 
>>This seems to be an old version. Are these CVS sources?
> 
> 
> No.  Just like back in November 2002, I used X420.
> 
> Alexander Skwar


From stefan.thiede@philips.com  Thu Feb 27 19:14:00 2003
From: stefan.thiede@philips.com (stefan.thiede@philips.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 19:14:00 -0000
Subject: XWin-Test78 lockup withXP screensaver
Message-ID: <OF4D07EE6A.0D4CCF84-ON88256CDA.006916C8@diamond.philips.com>

Hi Folks,

some more experiements (and reboots) later:

when I get out of the XP screensaver and have a xterm open then
I get the following line in XWinrl.log as the last entry before the
machine completely locks up.

winTopLevelWindowProc - BitBlt failed: The handle is invalid.

If I don't have any X-application running, I don't get this.

So I have to switch of the XP screen saver or to close all X-windows
before the screensaver get's activated. I'm using Test 78 and don't
use any startup script, just X -mulitwindow

Am I the only one seeing this ?
Any suggestion on how to debug it ?

Best Regards

Stefan



From Vince.Hoffman@uk.circle.com  Thu Feb 27 20:15:00 2003
From: Vince.Hoffman@uk.circle.com (Vince Hoffman)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:15:00 -0000
Subject: Lesstif update II
Message-ID: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA37955014BD8D9@EX-LONDON>

A quick grep in /etc/postinstall gives
$ more XFree86-lib.sh.done
#!/bin/sh

ETCLINKS="app-defaults fs lbxproxy proxymngr rstart twm xdm xinit xsm
xserver"
for f in $ETCLINKS; do
    ln -sf /etc/X11/$f /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/$f
done

do I'd guess it to be the Xfree86 libraries package that creates the links.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Ford [mailto:ford@vss.fsi.com]
> Sent: 27 February 2003 15:56
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Cc: David Huang; Danilo Turina
> Subject: RE: Lesstif update II
> 
> 
> On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 22:09:10 +0800, David Huang wrote:
> 
> > Hi! Thanks for the update.
> > But has this problem too:
> > http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2003-02/msg00029.html
> >
> > Please fix.
> >
> 
> I will try, but I need to understand what creates the link:
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults -> /etc/X11/app-defaults
> 
> I assume it is Cygwin standard then to use 
> /etc/X11/app-defaults instead
> of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults?
> 
> I seem to have this problem also, but did not notice because all our
> applications use XAPPLRESDIR to find their app-defaults.  I 
> do not believe
> that my new package caused it, though.
> 
> I really need to know what creates that link and why so it 
> can be fixed
> in the proper place.  Lesstif does not current seem to me like that
> place, but I could be convinced otherwise.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -- 
> Brian Ford
> Senior Realtime Software Engineer
> VITAL - Visual Simulation Systems
> FlightSafety International
> Phone: 314-551-8460
> Fax:   314-551-8444
> 


From vervoom@hotmail.com  Thu Feb 27 20:45:00 2003
From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:45:00 -0000
Subject: multiwindow crash on resolution 1280
Message-ID: <F33AkgqQD8PEQKbd7cM0000e858@hotmail.com>

Harold,

Not sure why that call's there twice although I suspect the user may have 
sent me a bad cut and paste job of the log!

About startxwin.bat: Actually I just told him to start Xwin manually from 
the bash prompt as 'Xwin -ac -engine 1'.

I noticed this line also in his log where the depth is negative:

>>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1274 height: -994 depth:

Does that seem strange? Do you know what causes the stride to come out as 
zero?

Thanks for your help as always,

JS.


>JS,
>
> > winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Created shadow stride: 0
>
>Well, at the least they have the problem where the stride is being 
>calculated as zero... they shouldn't be able to run at all.  Also... I 
>don't understand why winAllocateFBShadowGDI is being called twice.
>
>Here is what that section of the log should look like:
>
>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1394 height: 978 depth: 
>32
>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1394 height: 978 depth: 32 size 
>image: 5453328
>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Created shadow stride: 1394
>winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff
>winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 
>32
>winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
>
>
>Note the positive shadow stride and the fact that winInitVisualsShadowGDI 
>is only being called once.
>
>I have no clue what is going on here.  Basically I think that you have a 
>less-than-cluefull user that is not telling you things that they have 
>changed.  I won't say anything more about this issue until I see their 
>startxwin.bat file mailed in.
>
>Harold
>
>J S wrote:
>>And now, the correct error log! Sorry about that Harold. I'm told that 
>>Xwin failed to start this time as you said would happen:
>>
>>
>>ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
>>winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024
>>winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
>>OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
>>(EE) Unable to locate/open config file
>>InitOutput - Error reading config file
>>winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me
>>winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
>>winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000013
>>InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
>>winSetEngine - Using user's preference: 1
>>winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per 
>>pixel
>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1280 h: 1024
>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1280 h: 1024
>>winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1274 h 994 r 1274 l 0 b 
>>994 t 0
>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
>>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1274 height: 994 depth: 
>>16
>>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1274 height: -994 depth: 16 
>>size imag
>>e: 2532712
>>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Created shadow stride: 0
>>winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00007c00 000003e0 0000001f
>>winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00007c00 000003e0 0000001f BPRGB 5 d 15 
>>bpp 16
>>winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00007c00 000003e0 0000001f
>>winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00007c00 000003e0 0000001f BPRGB 5 d 15 
>>bpp 16
>>winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
>>winFinishScreenInitFB - returning
>>winScreenInit - returning
>>InitOutput - Returning.
>>(EE) No primary keyboard configured
>>(==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard
>>Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options 
>>= "(n
>>ull)"
>>Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap
>>Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, 
>>removing from
>>list!
>>Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing 
>>from
>>list!
>>Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, 
>>removing from
>>list!
>>
>>
>>>JS,
>>>
>>>Nope, you made a mistake.  See this line from the log file:
>>>winSetEngine - Multi Window => ShadowGDI
>>>
>>>You sent in your -multiwindow log file again.  Notice that the log file 
>>>ends in failure.
>>>
>>>Harold
>>>
>>>J S wrote:
>>>
>>>>Here you go Harold. This is the log from running
>>>>
>>>>Xwin -ac -engine 1
>>>>
>>>>ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
>>>>winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024
>>>>winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
>>>>OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
>>>>(EE) Unable to locate/open config file
>>>>InitOutput - Error reading config file
>>>>winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me
>>>>winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
>>>>winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000013
>>>>InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
>>>>winSetEngine - Multi Window => ShadowGDI
>>>>winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per 
>>>>pixel
>>>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1280 h: 1024
>>>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1280 h: 1024
>>>>winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>>>winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1280 h 1024 r 1280 l 0 
>>>>b 1024 t
>>>>0
>>>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
>>>>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1280 height: 1024 
>>>>depth: 16
>>>>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1280 height: -1024 depth: 16 
>>>>size ima
>>>>ge: 2621440
>>>>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Shadow blit failure
>>>>winFinishScreenInitFB - Could not allocate framebuffer
>>>>
>>>>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Shadow blit failure
>>>>winFinishScreenInitFB - Could not allocate framebuffer
>>>>winScreenInit - winFinishScreenInit () failed
>>>>
>>>>Fatal server error:
>>>>InitOutput - Couldn't add screen 0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>JS,
>>>>>
>>>>>That doesn't make any sense.  There should not be any difference at all 
>>>>>when running with ``-engine 1'' instead of ``-multiwindow'', as far as 
>>>>>the DIB creation is concerned.  The only thing I can think of is that 
>>>>>this is perhaps running on a system with very little available memory 
>>>>>at the time of startup... multiwindow mode might take just enough 
>>>>>memory to make the allocation of memory for the DIB fail.  That is the 
>>>>>only thing that makes any sense.
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh yeah, and I ask you to send in the log file from -engine 1, which 
>>>>>would help in diagnosing this problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>Harold
>>>>>
>>>>>J S wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Harold,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sorry to reply to this so late. If he starts xwin with -engine 1 that 
>>>>>>works fine. The problem is that multiwindow seems to be the only mode 
>>>>>>that works with his application and it has to be run with this 
>>>>>>resolution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>JS,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What happens if he runs in 1280x1024 with "-engine 1" instead of
>>>>>>>"-multiwindow"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Please send in a log from that run.  I suspect it will be the same.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Is 1280x1024 the maximum resolution that he can run in, or is there a 
>>>>>>>higher
>>>>>>>resolution that works just fine with -multiwindow?  I am just trying 
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>figure out if this is a problem where the largest size is not 
>>>>>>>possible but
>>>>>>>anything smaller than that is okay, or if it is just that one size in 
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>middle has problems but all the rest are okay.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Oh yeah, and this was done with 4.2.0-25, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for testing,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Harold
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
>>>>>>>[mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of J S
>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:30 AM
>>>>>>>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>>>>>>>Subject: multiwindow crash on resolution 1280
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have a customer trying out multiwindow mode on windows 95. He 
>>>>>>>usually has
>>>>>>>his resolution set to 1280 x 1024, but for some reason multiwindow 
>>>>>>>won't
>>>>>>>work with this. If I change his display settings to anything else 
>>>>>>>though, it
>>>>>>>does work. Here is the log:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
>>>>>>>winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024
>>>>>>>winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
>>>>>>>OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
>>>>>>>(EE) Unable to locate/open config file
>>>>>>>InitOutput - Error reading config file
>>>>>>>winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me
>>>>>>>winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
>>>>>>>winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000013
>>>>>>>InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
>>>>>>>winSetEngine - Multi Window => ShadowGDI
>>>>>>>winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits 
>>>>>>>per
>>>>>>>pixel
>>>>>>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1280 h: 1024
>>>>>>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1280 h: 1024
>>>>>>>winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>>>>>>winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>>>>>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1280 h 1024 r 1280 l 
>>>>>>>0 b
>>>>>>>1024 t 0
>>>>>>>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
>>>>>>>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1280 height: 1024 
>>>>>>>depth:
>>>>>>>16
>>>>>>>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1280 height: -1024 depth: 
>>>>>>>16 size
>>>>>>>image: 2621440
>>>>>>>winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Shadow blit failure
>>>>>>>winFinishScreenInitFB - Could not allocate framebuffer
>>>>>>>winScreenInit - winFinishScreenInit () failed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Fatal server error:
>>>>>>>InitOutput - Couldn't add screen 0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for any help,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>JS.
>>>>>>>
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From qisu@lanl.gov  Thu Feb 27 20:49:00 2003
From: qisu@lanl.gov (Qisu Zou)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:49:00 -0000
Subject: mouse button problem in xfig solved
Message-ID: <3E5E7ABC.1020508@lanl.gov>

Hi,

The mouse button problem I posted yesterday is solved.

 for your information:  I replaced 
my Dell mouse with an MS inteligent  Explorer (optical), installed its 
drive, and it works now.

 Qisu


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: problem of middle button in xfig
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:40:27 -0700
From: Qisu Zou <qisu@lanl.gov>
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com



Hi,    I have a problem with the middle button of the mouse  in xfig 
with cygwin.

    Dell Work station, Windows2000,  cygwin  1.3.20-1,   xfig  3.2.4,

    It works to draw rectangular, circle, but as has problem to draw 
lines,  clicking left button starts  to draw a line, the upper right of 
the xfig window indecates that the middle button sets the final point, 
but  clicking the middle button does not have any effect, the line is 
continue to be drawn. The right button cancels the drawing.  I have 
tried emulating 3 button, did not work.  The middle button is set as 
"paste" from control pannel.

    xfig works in my laptop,  with windowXP,  cygwin 1.3.19, xfig 3.2.4.

    Appreciated any help.

    Thank you
     Qisu Zou






From vervoom@hotmail.com  Thu Feb 27 21:02:00 2003
From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 21:02:00 -0000
Subject: WMaker crashes when starting with startxwin.bat
Message-ID: <F43TkUD5euwdUTaGmvS0001cf74@hotmail.com>

Hi Klaus,

This answer probably won't help because I'm probably speaking rubbish, but I 
have got the same problem as you, so I know what you're talking about.

You can start wmaker from the cygwin window, but not from a batch file (or 
more specifically a windows command window). I think this probably has 
something to do with the user $HOME, because in Cygwin it knows your $HOME 
is /home/user, and under there you have the GNUstep folder with your 
WindowMaker settings. However your windows home is probably pointing 
somewhere else, so WindowMaker can't find the GNUstep folder in your home 
directory, causing it to crash?

JS.

>
>Hi all,
>
>I just installed Cygwin using the Internet installation including XFree86
>and wmaker.
>I can start X without any problem and I can start wmaker from the bash
>prompt.
>
>The only problem I have is with startxwin.bat. I changed the window manager
>in this file from twm to wmaker, but whenever I try, I get the following
>error:
>Window Maker received signal 11.
>I see that X is up and it even changed the background color according to 
>the
>settings in startxwin.bat.
>
>In the archive for this mailing list I found the suggestion to change the
>HOME path settings, but either I did something wrong there, or the problem 
>is
>something else.
>
>I can start wmaker using startxwin.sh and startx - no problem with this.
>Just startxwin.bat is the problem and just with wmaker.
>
>I'm really sorry if this is the wrong mailing list, or this is a real bug I
>should have reported somewhere else. I just think this is probably not a 
>bug,
>because wmaker is running fine when started from the bash.
>
>Thanks very much for any help.
>
>Cheers,
>Klaus
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From ford@vss.fsi.com  Thu Feb 27 22:17:00 2003
From: ford@vss.fsi.com (Brian Ford)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 22:17:00 -0000
Subject: Lesstif update II
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302271608510.19283-100000@eos>

On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:15:40 -0000, Vince Hoffman wrote:

> A quick grep in /etc/postinstall gives
> $ more XFree86-lib.sh.done
> #!/bin/sh
>
> ETCLINKS="app-defaults fs lbxproxy proxymngr rstart twm xdm xinit xsm
> xserver"
> for f in $ETCLINKS; do
>     ln -sf /etc/X11/$f /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/$f
> done
>
> so I'd guess it to be the Xfree86 libraries package that creates the
> links.
>
Ok.  That seems to be the who.  Now how about the why?  Harold?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Ford [mailto:ford at vss dot fsi dot com]
> Sent: 27 February 2003 15:56
> To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com
> Cc: David Huang; Danilo Turina
> Subject: RE: Lesstif update II
>
>
> On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 22:09:10 +0800, David Huang wrote:
>
> > Hi! Thanks for the update.
> > But has this problem too:
> > http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2003-02/msg00029.html
> >
> > Please fix.
> >
>
> I will try, but I need to understand what creates the link:
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults -> /etc/X11/app-defaults
>
> I assume it is Cygwin standard then to use
> /etc/X11/app-defaults instead
> of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults?
>
> I seem to have this problem also, but did not notice because all our
> applications use XAPPLRESDIR to find their app-defaults.  I
> do not believe
> that my new package caused it, though.
>
> I really need to know what creates that link and why so it
> can be fixed
> in the proper place.  Lesstif does not current seem to me like that
> place, but I could be convinced otherwise.
>

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From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Feb 28 01:24:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 01:24:00 -0000
Subject: multiwindow crash on resolution 1280
In-Reply-To: <F33AkgqQD8PEQKbd7cM0000e858@hotmail.com>
References: <F33AkgqQD8PEQKbd7cM0000e858@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3E5EBA5E.70202@msu.edu>

JS,

The negative height was the subject of my recent bugfix.  Please have 
your user install the latest XFree86-xserv package and see what happens.

Harold

J S wrote:
> Harold,
> 
> Not sure why that call's there twice although I suspect the user may 
> have sent me a bad cut and paste job of the log!
> 
> About startxwin.bat: Actually I just told him to start Xwin manually 
> from the bash prompt as 'Xwin -ac -engine 1'.
> 
> I noticed this line also in his log where the depth is negative:
> 
>>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1274 height: -994 depth:
> 
> 
> Does that seem strange? Do you know what causes the stride to come out 
> as zero?
> 
> Thanks for your help as always,
> 
> JS.
> 
> 
>> JS,
>>
>> > winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Created shadow stride: 0
>>
>> Well, at the least they have the problem where the stride is being 
>> calculated as zero... they shouldn't be able to run at all.  Also... I 
>> don't understand why winAllocateFBShadowGDI is being called twice.
>>
>> Here is what that section of the log should look like:
>>
>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1394 height: 978 
>> depth: 32
>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1394 height: 978 depth: 32 
>> size image: 5453328
>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Created shadow stride: 1394
>> winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff
>> winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 
>> 24 bpp 32
>> winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
>>
>>
>> Note the positive shadow stride and the fact that 
>> winInitVisualsShadowGDI is only being called once.
>>
>> I have no clue what is going on here.  Basically I think that you have 
>> a less-than-cluefull user that is not telling you things that they 
>> have changed.  I won't say anything more about this issue until I see 
>> their startxwin.bat file mailed in.
>>
>> Harold
>>
>> J S wrote:
>>
>>> And now, the correct error log! Sorry about that Harold. I'm told 
>>> that Xwin failed to start this time as you said would happen:
>>>
>>>
>>> ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
>>> winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024
>>> winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
>>> OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
>>> (EE) Unable to locate/open config file
>>> InitOutput - Error reading config file
>>> winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me
>>> winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
>>> winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000013
>>> InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
>>> winSetEngine - Using user's preference: 1
>>> winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits 
>>> per pixel
>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1280 h: 1024
>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1280 h: 1024
>>> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1274 h 994 r 1274 l 
>>> 0 b 994 t 0
>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
>>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1274 height: 994 
>>> depth: 16
>>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1274 height: -994 depth: 
>>> 16 size imag
>>> e: 2532712
>>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Created shadow stride: 0
>>> winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00007c00 000003e0 0000001f
>>> winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00007c00 000003e0 0000001f BPRGB 5 d 
>>> 15 bpp 16
>>> winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00007c00 000003e0 0000001f
>>> winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00007c00 000003e0 0000001f BPRGB 5 d 
>>> 15 bpp 16
>>> winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
>>> winFinishScreenInitFB - returning
>>> winScreenInit - returning
>>> InitOutput - Returning.
>>> (EE) No primary keyboard configured
>>> (==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard
>>> Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" 
>>> Options = "(n
>>> ull)"
>>> Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap
>>> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, 
>>> removing from
>>> list!
>>> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, 
>>> removing from
>>> list!
>>> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, 
>>> removing from
>>> list!
>>>
>>>
>>>> JS,
>>>>
>>>> Nope, you made a mistake.  See this line from the log file:
>>>> winSetEngine - Multi Window => ShadowGDI
>>>>
>>>> You sent in your -multiwindow log file again.  Notice that the log 
>>>> file ends in failure.
>>>>
>>>> Harold
>>>>
>>>> J S wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here you go Harold. This is the log from running
>>>>>
>>>>> Xwin -ac -engine 1
>>>>>
>>>>> ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
>>>>> winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024
>>>>> winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
>>>>> OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
>>>>> (EE) Unable to locate/open config file
>>>>> InitOutput - Error reading config file
>>>>> winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me
>>>>> winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
>>>>> winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000013
>>>>> InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
>>>>> winSetEngine - Multi Window => ShadowGDI
>>>>> winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 16 
>>>>> bits per pixel
>>>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1280 h: 1024
>>>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1280 h: 1024
>>>>> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>>>> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1280 h 1024 r 1280 
>>>>> l 0 b 1024 t
>>>>> 0
>>>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
>>>>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1280 height: 1024 
>>>>> depth: 16
>>>>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1280 height: -1024 
>>>>> depth: 16 size ima
>>>>> ge: 2621440
>>>>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Shadow blit failure
>>>>> winFinishScreenInitFB - Could not allocate framebuffer
>>>>>
>>>>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Shadow blit failure
>>>>> winFinishScreenInitFB - Could not allocate framebuffer
>>>>> winScreenInit - winFinishScreenInit () failed
>>>>>
>>>>> Fatal server error:
>>>>> InitOutput - Couldn't add screen 0
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JS,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That doesn't make any sense.  There should not be any difference 
>>>>>> at all when running with ``-engine 1'' instead of 
>>>>>> ``-multiwindow'', as far as the DIB creation is concerned.  The 
>>>>>> only thing I can think of is that this is perhaps running on a 
>>>>>> system with very little available memory at the time of startup... 
>>>>>> multiwindow mode might take just enough memory to make the 
>>>>>> allocation of memory for the DIB fail.  That is the only thing 
>>>>>> that makes any sense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh yeah, and I ask you to send in the log file from -engine 1, 
>>>>>> which would help in diagnosing this problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Harold
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J S wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Harold,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry to reply to this so late. If he starts xwin with -engine 1 
>>>>>>> that works fine. The problem is that multiwindow seems to be the 
>>>>>>> only mode that works with his application and it has to be run 
>>>>>>> with this resolution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> JS,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What happens if he runs in 1280x1024 with "-engine 1" instead of
>>>>>>>> "-multiwindow"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please send in a log from that run.  I suspect it will be the same.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is 1280x1024 the maximum resolution that he can run in, or is 
>>>>>>>> there a higher
>>>>>>>> resolution that works just fine with -multiwindow?  I am just 
>>>>>>>> trying to
>>>>>>>> figure out if this is a problem where the largest size is not 
>>>>>>>> possible but
>>>>>>>> anything smaller than that is okay, or if it is just that one 
>>>>>>>> size in the
>>>>>>>> middle has problems but all the rest are okay.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh yeah, and this was done with 4.2.0-25, right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for testing,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Harold
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
>>>>>>>> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of J S
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:30 AM
>>>>>>>> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: multiwindow crash on resolution 1280
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a customer trying out multiwindow mode on windows 95. He 
>>>>>>>> usually has
>>>>>>>> his resolution set to 1280 x 1024, but for some reason 
>>>>>>>> multiwindow won't
>>>>>>>> work with this. If I change his display settings to anything 
>>>>>>>> else though, it
>>>>>>>> does work. Here is the log:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
>>>>>>>> winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024
>>>>>>>> winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
>>>>>>>> OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
>>>>>>>> (EE) Unable to locate/open config file
>>>>>>>> InitOutput - Error reading config file
>>>>>>>> winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows 95/98/Me
>>>>>>>> winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
>>>>>>>> winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000013
>>>>>>>> InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
>>>>>>>> winSetEngine - Multi Window => ShadowGDI
>>>>>>>> winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 16 
>>>>>>>> bits per
>>>>>>>> pixel
>>>>>>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1280 h: 1024
>>>>>>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1280 h: 1024
>>>>>>>> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>>>>>>> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
>>>>>>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1280 h 1024 r 
>>>>>>>> 1280 l 0 b
>>>>>>>> 1024 t 0
>>>>>>>> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
>>>>>>>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1280 height: 
>>>>>>>> 1024 depth:
>>>>>>>> 16
>>>>>>>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Dibsection width: 1280 height: -1024 
>>>>>>>> depth: 16 size
>>>>>>>> image: 2621440
>>>>>>>> winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Shadow blit failure
>>>>>>>> winFinishScreenInitFB - Could not allocate framebuffer
>>>>>>>> winScreenInit - winFinishScreenInit () failed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fatal server error:
>>>>>>>> InitOutput - Couldn't add screen 0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> JS.
>>>>>>>>
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From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info  Fri Feb 28 05:19:00 2003
From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 05:19:00 -0000
Subject: Debug build of X doesn't seem to load XF86Config
In-Reply-To: <3E5E413C.9090407@msu.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302271517240.6068-100000@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> <3E5E22AB.1010500@email-server.info> <3E5E413C.9090407@msu.edu>
Message-ID: <20030228051923.GI1685@teich.Garten.DigitalProjects.com>

So sprach Harold L Hunt II am 2003-02-27 um 11:47:56 -0500 :
> Let me sum this up: I compiled Microsoft Windows 3.1 but it doesn't have 
>  Internet Explorer 6.0... what happened?  Get it?

Yes.  I'm getting Xfree86 4.3.0 now - hopefully I'm a little more
successful with the new release ;)
and it had IE 6.0

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From Klaus.Moschner@gmx.de  Fri Feb 28 07:52:00 2003
From: Klaus.Moschner@gmx.de (Klaus.Moschner@gmx.de)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:52:00 -0000
Subject: WMaker crashes when starting with startxwin.bat
References: <F43TkUD5euwdUTaGmvS0001cf74@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <747.1046418724@www65.gmx.net>

JS,

yes, you're probably right. But now the tricky question:
How can I change the windows home to point to my $HOME in cygwin to solve
that problem?

Klaus

> Hi Klaus,
> 
> This answer probably won't help because I'm probably speaking rubbish, but
> I 
> have got the same problem as you, so I know what you're talking about.
> 
> You can start wmaker from the cygwin window, but not from a batch file (or
> 
> more specifically a windows command window). I think this probably has 
> something to do with the user $HOME, because in Cygwin it knows your $HOME
> 
> is /home/user, and under there you have the GNUstep folder with your 
> WindowMaker settings. However your windows home is probably pointing 
> somewhere else, so WindowMaker can't find the GNUstep folder in your home 
> directory, causing it to crash?
> 
> JS.
> 
> >
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I just installed Cygwin using the Internet installation including XFree86
> >and wmaker.
> >I can start X without any problem and I can start wmaker from the bash
> >prompt.
> >
> >The only problem I have is with startxwin.bat. I changed the window
> manager
> >in this file from twm to wmaker, but whenever I try, I get the following
> >error:
> >Window Maker received signal 11.
> >I see that X is up and it even changed the background color according to 
> >the
> >settings in startxwin.bat.
> >
> >In the archive for this mailing list I found the suggestion to change the
> >HOME path settings, but either I did something wrong there, or the
> problem 
> >is
> >something else.
> >
> >I can start wmaker using startxwin.sh and startx - no problem with this.
> >Just startxwin.bat is the problem and just with wmaker.
> >
> >I'm really sorry if this is the wrong mailing list, or this is a real bug
> I
> >should have reported somewhere else. I just think this is probably not a 
> >bug,
> >because wmaker is running fine when started from the bash.
> >
> >Thanks very much for any help.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Klaus
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From hj.beckers@kreis-steinfurt.de  Fri Feb 28 08:02:00 2003
From: hj.beckers@kreis-steinfurt.de (hj.beckers@kreis-steinfurt.de)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:02:00 -0000
Subject: Antwort: Re: WMaker crashes when starting with startxwin.bat
Message-ID: <OF5D2B8671.6083E913-ONC1256CDB.002BAB0E@kreis-steinfurt.de>

Hi Klaus

> yes, you're probably right. But now the tricky question:
> How can I change the windows home to point to my $HOME in cygwin to 
solve
> that problem?

take my startxwin.bat as an example. Cygwin is installed on d:\cygwin. The 
only customized lines are "SET HOME", "SET CYGWIN_ROOT", the rest is 
standard startxwin.bat with different WM-calls REMmed on and off.

HTH
hjb


@echo off
D:
SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
SET HOME=/CYGDRIVE/D/cygwin/home/DV105

REM 
REM The path in the CYGWIN_ROOT environment variable assignment assume
REM that Cygwin is installed in a directory called 'cygwin' in the root
REM directory of the current drive.  You will only need to modify
REM CYGWIN_ROOT if you have installed Cygwin in another directory.  For
REM example, if you installed Cygwin in \foo\bar\baz\cygwin, you will need 

REM to change \cygwin to \foo\bar\baz\cygwin.
REM 
REM This batch file will almost always be run from the same drive (and
REM directory) as the drive that contains Cygwin/XFree86, therefore you 
will
REM not need to add a drive letter to CYGWIN_ROOT.  For example, you do
REM not need to change \cygwin to c:\cygwin if you are running this
REM batch file from the C drive.
REM 

SET CYGWIN_ROOT=D:\cygwin

SET PATH=.;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\bin;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\usr\X11R6\bin;%PATH%


REM
REM Cleanup after last run.
REM

if not exist %CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 goto CLEANUP-FINISH
attrib -s %CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix\X0
del %CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix\X0

:CLEANUP-FINISH
if exist %CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix rmdir %CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix


REM
REM Startup the X Server, the twm window manager, and an xterm.
REM 
...
skipped
....

if "%OS%" == "Windows_NT" goto OS_NT

REM Windows 95/98/Me
echo startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows 95/98/Me

goto STARTUP

:OS_NT

REM Windows NT/2000/XP
echo startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows NT/2000/XP

:STARTUP


REM
REM Startup the programs
REM 

REM Startup the X Server.

REM start XWin %1
REM start XWin -fullscreen
start XWin  -rootless
REM start XWin -broadcast

REM Startup an xterm, using bash as the shell.
REM run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e 
/usr/bin/bash

REM setxkbmap de
REM Startup the twm window manager.

REM run twm
REM run fvwm2
REM run openbox
run wmaker

xrdb -merge .Xresources

REM Set a background color.

REM run xsetroot -solid aquamarine4

exit



From Klaus.Moschner@gmx.de  Fri Feb 28 09:09:00 2003
From: Klaus.Moschner@gmx.de (Klaus.Moschner@gmx.de)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 09:09:00 -0000
Subject: Antwort: Re: WMaker crashes when starting with startxwin.bat
References: <OF5D2B8671.6083E913-ONC1256CDB.002BAB0E@kreis-steinfurt.de>
Message-ID: <31322.1046423393@www65.gmx.net>

Hi hjb,

this was the sollution!
Actually I had two problems:
1. When I installed cygwin, it didn't create a 'good' home directory. It
cretared a directory '/usr/bin/%USERPROFILE%' because my Windows Home is on a
different drive than my cygwin installation.
2. The correct path to HOME had to be set.
I've done that and now it works.

Cheers,
Klaus


> Hi Klaus
> 
> > yes, you're probably right. But now the tricky question:
> > How can I change the windows home to point to my $HOME in cygwin to 
> solve
> > that problem?
> 
> take my startxwin.bat as an example. Cygwin is installed on d:\cygwin. The
> 
> only customized lines are "SET HOME", "SET CYGWIN_ROOT", the rest is 
> standard startxwin.bat with different WM-calls REMmed on and off.
> 
> HTH
> hjb
> 
> 
> @echo off
> D:
> SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
> SET HOME=/CYGDRIVE/D/cygwin/home/DV105
> 
> REM 
> REM The path in the CYGWIN_ROOT environment variable assignment assume
> REM that Cygwin is installed in a directory called 'cygwin' in the root
> REM directory of the current drive.  You will only need to modify
> REM CYGWIN_ROOT if you have installed Cygwin in another directory.  For
> REM example, if you installed Cygwin in \foo\bar\baz\cygwin, you will need
> 
> 
> REM to change \cygwin to \foo\bar\baz\cygwin.
> REM 
> REM This batch file will almost always be run from the same drive (and
> REM directory) as the drive that contains Cygwin/XFree86, therefore you 
> will
> REM not need to add a drive letter to CYGWIN_ROOT.  For example, you do
> REM not need to change \cygwin to c:\cygwin if you are running this
> REM batch file from the C drive.
> REM 
> 
> SET CYGWIN_ROOT=D:\cygwin
> 
> SET PATH=.;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\bin;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\usr\X11R6\bin;%PATH%
> 
> 
> REM
> REM Cleanup after last run.
> REM
> 
> if not exist %CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 goto CLEANUP-FINISH
> attrib -s %CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix\X0
> del %CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix\X0
> 
> :CLEANUP-FINISH
> if exist %CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix rmdir %CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix
> 
> 
> REM
> REM Startup the X Server, the twm window manager, and an xterm.
> REM 
> ...
> skipped
> ....
> 
> if "%OS%" == "Windows_NT" goto OS_NT
> 
> REM Windows 95/98/Me
> echo startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows 95/98/Me
> 
> goto STARTUP
> 
> :OS_NT
> 
> REM Windows NT/2000/XP
> echo startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows NT/2000/XP
> 
> :STARTUP
> 
> 
> REM
> REM Startup the programs
> REM 
> 
> REM Startup the X Server.
> 
> REM start XWin %1
> REM start XWin -fullscreen
> start XWin  -rootless
> REM start XWin -broadcast
> 
> REM Startup an xterm, using bash as the shell.
> REM run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e 
> /usr/bin/bash
> 
> REM setxkbmap de
> REM Startup the twm window manager.
> 
> REM run twm
> REM run fvwm2
> REM run openbox
> run wmaker
> 
> xrdb -merge .Xresources
> 
> REM Set a background color.
> 
> REM run xsetroot -solid aquamarine4
> 
> exit
> 
> 

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From Gunnar.Bostrom@kiconsulting.se  Fri Feb 28 09:16:00 2003
From: Gunnar.Bostrom@kiconsulting.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Gunnar_Bostr=F6m?=)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 09:16:00 -0000
Subject: Swedish kb please help
Message-ID: <C42E3A12C85D6F43BA7D6FF7E89B053A1D9950@ant02exc.ant-it.com>

Do you have an XF86Config file for swedish that you can share with me?
I've tried to modify the german Config file but no luck.

I have a swedish Microsoft Natural keyboard.
:-)


From lists.ASkwar@email-server.info  Fri Feb 28 11:45:00 2003
From: lists.ASkwar@email-server.info (Alexander Skwar)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:45:00 -0000
Subject: How has rxvt-2.7.9-4 been packaged?
Message-ID: <3E5F4BE1.6080606@email-server.info>

Hello.

I'm now successfully running XFree86 4.3.0 - however, because of this, I
need to recompile some packages, as they simply die because library
names have changed.  One of these packages is rxvt.

With WindowMaker, I had good luck downloading the src package with the
setup program.  I was then able to run "/usr/src/WindowMaker-0.80.0-2.sh
all" to get a tar.bz2 file which I could install.

However, downloading rxvt-2.7.9-4-src results in a /usr/src/rxvt
directory.  How would I build something installable from this?  Just the
usual "./configure && make && make install" or did you apply any
patches/configure options when packaging the rxvt-2.7.9-4.tar.bz2 for
cygwin?

Thanks a lot,

Alexander Skwar
-- 
/*
 *   Should be panic but... (Why are BSD people panic obsessed ??)
 */
	2.0.38 /usr/src/linux/net/ipv4/ip_fw.c


From taarhaug@mercury.chembio.ntnu.no  Fri Feb 28 12:51:00 2003
From: taarhaug@mercury.chembio.ntnu.no (Thor Anders Aarhaug)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:51:00 -0000
Subject: laptop performace
Message-ID: <uheao7f1g.fsf@mercury.chembio.ntnu.no>

hi,

just installed 1.3.20-1 on one laptop and one stationary.  full
install on both, no modifications.

I experience a slow performance on the laptop, FS Lifebook E 2.2 GHz
with a Ati Radeon Mobility 7500.  for instance, emacs hardly starts
(unless i put it in the startxwin.bat) and the screen updates are
slow.

I tried messing with the -depth  and -refresh parameters to no avail.

my Dell Optiplex 1.8 GHz shows a completely different behaviour.

I was looking for hardware drivers, but could not find any.

suggestions?

TAA



From jon@mediasurface.com  Fri Feb 28 13:08:00 2003
From: jon@mediasurface.com (jon ewing)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:08:00 -0000
Subject: Problem compiling Perl Tk800.024
In-Reply-To: <16471714199.20030221084735@familiehaase.de>
Message-ID: <001201c2df2a$8ce62a30$152ca8c0@int.mediasurface.com>


Hi Gerrit,

Sorry for the delay in replying...

> Hmmm, I tried Tk800.23 without X, there were only minor 
> problems, does it compile without X?

No.

Firstly I removed the duplicated methods from stubs.c. Then when
'make'ing, I first got:

...
...
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jon/src/perlModules/Tk800.024/pTk'
gcc -c -I..  -I. -Ibitmaps  -DPERL_USE_SAFE_PUTENV -fno-strict-aliasing
-I/usr/local/include -DUSEIMPORTLIB -O2   -DVERSION=\"800.024\"
-DXS_VERSION=\"800.024\"  -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/cygwin-multi/CORE
-D__WIN32__ -Wall -Wno-implicit-int -Wno-comment -Wno-unused
-D__USE_FIXED_PROTOTYPES__ stubs.c
cc1: warning: changing search order for system directory
"/usr/local/include"
cc1: warning:   as it has already been specified as a non-system
directory
In file included from /usr/include/w32api/windows.h:87,
                 from Lang.h:194,
                 from tkPort.h:24,
                 from tk.h:71,
                 from tkInt.h:21,
                 from stubs.c:7:
/usr/include/w32api/winspool.h:239: unnamed fields of type other than
struct or union are not allowed
/usr/include/w32api/winspool.h:254: unnamed fields of type other than
struct or union are not allowed
/usr/include/w32api/winspool.h:275: unnamed fields of type other than
struct or union are not allowed
/usr/include/w32api/winspool.h:300: unnamed fields of type other than
struct or union are not allowed
/usr/include/w32api/winspool.h:446: unnamed fields of type other than
struct or union are not allowed
/usr/include/w32api/winspool.h:469: unnamed fields of type other than
struct or union are not allowed
make[1]: *** [stubs.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jon/src/perlModules/Tk800.024/pTk'
make: *** [pTk/libpTk.a] Error 2



I figured the stuff from winspool.h probably wasn't used, so edited
windows.h and commented out that line. The compilation then got further,
but stopped with:

...
...
gcc -c -I..  -I. -Ibitmaps  -DPERL_USE_SAFE_PUTENV -fno-strict-aliasing
-I/usr/local/include -DUSEIMPORTLIB -O2   -DVERSION=\"800.024\"
-DXS_VERSION=\"800.024\"  -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/cygwin-multi/CORE
-D__WIN32__ -Wall -Wno-implicit-int -Wno-comment -Wno-unused
-D__USE_FIXED_PROTOTYPES__ tixUnixDraw.c
cc1: warning: changing search order for system directory
"/usr/local/include"
cc1: warning:   as it has already been specified as a non-system
directory
tixUnixDraw.c: In function `TixpStartSubRegionDraw':
tixUnixDraw.c:152: structure has no member named `rectUsed'
tixUnixDraw.c:153: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:154: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:155: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:156: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:158: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:161: structure has no member named `rectUsed'
tixUnixDraw.c: In function `TixpEndSubRegionDraw':
tixUnixDraw.c:178: structure has no member named `rectUsed'
tixUnixDraw.c:179: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:180: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:181: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:182: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:183: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c: In function `TixpSubRegDrawImage':
tixUnixDraw.c:268: structure has no member named `rectUsed'
tixUnixDraw.c:269: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:270: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:271: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:272: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:274: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:274: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:275: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:275: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:278: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:279: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:280: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:281: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:283: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:283: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:284: structure has no member named `rect'
tixUnixDraw.c:284: structure has no member named `rect'
make[1]: *** [tixUnixDraw.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jon/src/perlModules/Tk800.024/pTk'
make: *** [pTk/libpTk.a] Error 2



I tried again with 'perl Makefile.PL x'. Again I edited the stubs.c, and
this time it compiled ok, but failed nearly all the tests, with all test
failing for the same reason, eg:

t/zzTixGrid.........X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid
Window parameter)
  Major opcode of failed request:  1 (X_CreateWindow)
  Resource id in failed request:  0x0
  Serial number of failed request:  5
  Current serial number in output stream:  6
t/zzTixGrid.........dubious

        Test returned status 1 (wstat 256, 0x100)
DIED. FAILED tests 1-36
        Failed 36/36 tests, 0.00% okay
Failed Test     Status Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of Failed
------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------
t/Trace.t          1   256     5    5 100.00%  1-5
t/autoload.t       1   256     5    5 100.00%  1-5
t/balloon.t        1   256     8    8 100.00%  1-8
t/browseentry.t    1   256    15   13  86.67%  3-15
t/create.t         1   256   419  418  99.76%  2-419
t/dash.t           1   256    ??   ??       %  ??
t/fbox.t           1   256     6    4  66.67%  3-6
t/fileevent.t     13  3328     1    1 100.00%  1
t/fileselect.t     1   256     5    3  60.00%  3-5
t/font.t           1   256     9    9 100.00%  1-9
t/geomgr.t         1   256    19   19 100.00%  1-19
t/list.t           1   256    ??   ??       %  ??
t/mega.t           1   256     8    8 100.00%  1-8
t/mwm.t            1   256     2    2 100.00%  1-2
t/optmenu.t        1   256    24   22  91.67%  3-24
t/photo.t          1   256    ??   ??       %  ??
t/progbar.t        1   256    15   15 100.00%  1-15
t/widget.t         1   256     7    7 100.00%  1-7
t/zzHList.t        1   256    22   22 100.00%  1-22
t/zzPhoto.t        1   256    27   27 100.00%  1-27
t/zzScrolled.t     1   256    94   94 100.00%  1-94
t/zzText.t         1   256    22   22 100.00%  1-22
t/zzTixGrid.t      1   256    36   36 100.00%  1-36
Failed 23/25 test scripts, 8.00% okay. 740/838 subtests failed, 11.69%
okay.
make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 2


Have you been able to compile 800.024?

Thanks lots for your help,

Jon.



From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Fri Feb 28 13:39:00 2003
From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:39:00 -0000
Subject: Swedish kb please help
In-Reply-To: <C42E3A12C85D6F43BA7D6FF7E89B053A1D9950@ant02exc.ant-it.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302281439100.6068-200000@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>

On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Gunnar Bostr??m wrote:

> Do you have an XF86Config file for swedish that you can share with me?

attached

bye
	ago
-------------- next part --------------
# File generated by xf86config.

#
# NOTICE: This file was shipped with a experimental version of the
# XFree86 XServer for Windows.
#
# The following sections are supported:
# 
# Files: 
#   FontPath is correctly set
#   RgbPath is read (setting not tested)
#
# Device - Keyboard:
#   The first keyboard section is used for configuration. You can specify
#   a special name via the -keyboard switch.
#   All XKB settings are supported 
#
# Other sections are not supported
#   For support of a special section, ask the porter on
#   mailto:cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
#
# If you report errors to <cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com>, please make a clear
# note that you're running an experimental version.
#

#
# Copyright (c) 1999 by The XFree86 Project, Inc.
#
# Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
# copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"),
# to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
# the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
# and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
# Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
# 
# The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
# all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
# 
# THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
# IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
# FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT.  IN NO EVENT SHALL
# THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY,
# WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF
# OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
# SOFTWARE.
# 
# Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall
# not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other
# dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the
# XFree86 Project.
#

# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of 
# this file.
# **********************************************************************

# **********************************************************************
# Module section -- this  section  is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.
# **********************************************************************
#
Section "Module"

# This loads the DBE extension module.

    Load        "dbe"  	# Double buffer extension

# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
    SubSection  "extmod"
      Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
    EndSubSection

# This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules
    Load        "type1"
    Load        "freetype"

# This loads the GLX module
    Load       "glx"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Files section.  This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"

# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db").  There is normally
# no need to change the default.

    RgbPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)
# 
# If you don't have a floating point coprocessor and emacs, Mosaic or other
# programs take long to start up, try moving the Type1 and Speedo directory
# to the end of this list (or comment them out).
# 

    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
#    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
#    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"

# Fontserver support

#   FontPath    "tcp/localhost:7100"    
    
# The module search path.  The default path is shown here.

#    ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Server flags section.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"

# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is 
# received.  This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging

#    Option "NoTrapSignals"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><BS> server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.

#    Option "DontZap"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> mode switching
# sequences.  This allows clients to receive these key events.

#    Option "Dont Zoom"

# Uncomment this to disable tuning with the xvidtune client. With
# it the client can still run and fetch card and monitor attributes,
# but it will not be allowed to change them. If it tries it will
# receive a protocol error.

#    Option "DisableVidModeExtension"

# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local xvidtune client. 

#    Option "AllowNonLocalXvidtune"

# Uncomment this to disable dynamically modifying the input device
# (mouse and keyboard) settings. 

#    Option "DisableModInDev"

# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local client to
# change the keyboard or mouse settings (currently only xset).

#    Option "AllowNonLocalModInDev"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Input devices
# **********************************************************************

# **********************************************************************
# Core keyboard's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

    Identifier	"Keyboard1"
    Driver	"Keyboard"
# For most OSs the protocol can be omitted (it defaults to "Standard").
# When using XQUEUE (only for SVR3 and SVR4, but not Solaris),
# uncomment the following line.

#    Option     "Protocol"      "Xqueue"

    Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
#    Option	"Xleds"      "1 2 3"

#    Option "LeftAlt"     "Meta"
#    Option "RightAlt"    "ModeShift"

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
#    Option "XkbModel"    "pc102"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#    Option "XkbModel"    "microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#    Option "XkbLayout"   "de"
# or:
#    Option "XkbLayout"   "de"
#    Option "XkbVariant"  "nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
#    Option "XkbOptions"  "ctrl:swapcaps"

# These are the default XKB settings for XFree86
#    Option "XkbRules"    "xfree86"
#    Option "XkbModel"    "pc101"
#    Option "XkbLayout"   "us"
#    Option "XkbVariant"  ""
#    Option "XkbOptions"  ""

#    Option "XkbDisable"

    Option "XkbRules"	"xfree86"
    Option "XkbModel"	"pc105"
    Option "XkbLayout"	"se"

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Core Pointer's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

# Identifier and driver

    Identifier	"Mouse1"
    Driver	"mouse"
    Option "Protocol"    "imps/2"
    Option "Device"      "/dev/mouse"

# When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment
# the following line.

#    Option "Protocol"	"Xqueue"

# Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice. In
# almost every case these lines should be omitted.

#    Option "BaudRate"	"9600"
#    Option "SampleRate"	"150"

# Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice
# Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)

    Option "Emulate3Buttons"
#    Option "Emulate3Timeout"    "50"

# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice

#    Option "ChordMiddle"

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Other input device sections 
# this is optional and is required only if you
# are using extended input devices.  This is for example only.  Refer
# to the XF86Config man page for a description of the options.
# **********************************************************************
#
# Section "InputDevice" 
#    Identifier  "Mouse2"
#    Driver      "mouse"
#    Option      "Protocol"      "MouseMan"
#    Option      "Device"        "/dev/mouse2"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "spaceball"
#    Driver     "magellan"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/cua0"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "spaceball2"
#    Driver     "spaceorb"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/cua0"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "touchscreen0"
#    Driver     "microtouch"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/ttyS0"
#    Option     "MinX"          "1412"
#    Option     "MaxX"          "15184"
#    Option     "MinY"          "15372"
#    Option     "MaxY"          "1230"
#    Option     "ScreenNumber"  "0"
#    Option     "ReportingMode" "Scaled"
#    Option     "ButtonNumber"  "1"
#    Option     "SendCoreEvents"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "touchscreen1"
#    Driver     "elo2300"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/ttyS0"
#    Option     "MinX"          "231"
#    Option     "MaxX"          "3868"
#    Option     "MinY"          "3858"
#    Option     "MaxY"          "272"
#    Option     "ScreenNumber"  "0"
#    Option     "ReportingMode" "Scaled"
#    Option     "ButtonThreshold"       "17"
#    Option     "ButtonNumber"  "1"
#    Option     "SendCoreEvents"
# EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of monitor sections may be present

Section "Monitor"

    Identifier  "Fujitsu 19inch"

# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY.  REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

    HorizSync   30 - 95

#    HorizSync	30-64         # multisync
#    HorizSync	31.5, 35.2    # multiple fixed sync frequencies
#    HorizSync	15-25, 30-50  # multiple ranges of sync frequencies

# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY.  REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

    VertRefresh 50 - 160

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of graphics device sections may be present

# Standard VGA Device:

Section "Device"
    Identifier	"Standard VGA"
    VendorName	"Unknown"
    BoardName	"Unknown"

# The chipset line is optional in most cases.  It can be used to override
# the driver's chipset detection, and should not normally be specified.

#    Chipset	"generic"

# The Driver line must be present.  When using run-time loadable driver
# modules, this line instructs the server to load the specified driver
# module.  Even when not using loadable driver modules, this line
# indicates which driver should interpret the information in this section.

    Driver     "svga"
# The BusID line is used to specify which of possibly multiple devices
# this section is intended for.  When this line isn't present, a device
# section can only match up with the primary video device.  For PCI
# devices a line like the following could be used.  This line should not
# normally be included unless there is more than one video device
# intalled.

#    BusID      "PCI:0:10:0"

#    VideoRam	256

#    Clocks	25.2 28.3

EndSection

# Device configured by xf86config:

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Matrox G400"
    Driver      "mga"
	# unsupported card
    VideoRam    16384
    # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of screen sections may be present.  Each describes
# the configuration of a single screen.  A single specific screen section
# may be specified from the X server command line with the "-screen"
# option.
Section "Screen"
    Identifier  "Screen 1"
    Device      "Matrox G400"
    Monitor     "Fujitsu 19inch"
    DefaultDepth 16

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       8
        Modes       "1280x1024" "1600x1200" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes       "1280x1024" "1600x1200" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes       "1280x1024" "1600x1200" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# ServerLayout sections.
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of ServerLayout sections may be present.  Each describes
# the way multiple screens are organised.  A specific ServerLayout
# section may be specified from the X server command line with the
# "-layout" option.  In the absence of this, the first section is used.
# When now ServerLayout section is present, the first Screen section
# is used alone.

Section "ServerLayout"

# The Identifier line must be present
    Identifier  "Simple Layout"

# Each Screen line specifies a Screen section name, and optionally
# the relative position of other screens.  The four names after
# primary screen name are the screens to the top, bottom, left and right
# of the primary screen.  In this example, screen 2 is located to the
# right of screen 1.

    Screen "Screen 1"

# Each InputDevice line specifies an InputDevice section name and
# optionally some options to specify the way the device is to be
# used.  Those options include "CorePointer", "CoreKeyboard" and
# "SendCoreEvents".

    InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"

EndSection


From Gunnar.Bostrom@kiconsulting.se  Fri Feb 28 14:28:00 2003
From: Gunnar.Bostrom@kiconsulting.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Gunnar_Bostr=F6m?=)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:28:00 -0000
Subject: Swedish kb please help
Message-ID: <C42E3A12C85D6F43BA7D6FF7E89B053A777D9F@ant02exc.ant-it.com>

I can't get it to work.
My installation of cygwin is in D:\gb\cygwin
I saved the file in D:\gb\cygwin\etc\X11\XF86Config-4
I start x by double-click the file D:\gb\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\startxwin.bat

I still have an american keyboard.
What is wrong?
:-)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander Gottwald 
> [mailto:alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de] 
> Sent: den 28 februari 2003 14:40
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: Swedish kb please help
> 
> 
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Gunnar Bostr?m wrote:
> 
> > Do you have an XF86Config file for swedish that you can 
> share with me?
> 
> attached
> 
> bye
> 	ago
> 


From martin.buck@ascom.ch  Fri Feb 28 14:35:00 2003
From: martin.buck@ascom.ch (Martin Buck)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:35:00 -0000
Subject: XWin hangs when accessing font server
Message-ID: <3E5F73AC.2000102@ascom.ch>

Hi,

I'm trying to use XWin 4.2.0-26 on Win 2k to log in to a few
Linux/Solaris boxes using XDMCP. Everything works fine (i.e. I'm getting
the login window and I can enter my user name and password) until I
reach the point in my xsession where I'm adding a font server to the
font path using this command:

xset fp+ tcp/fonts:7100

As soon as the xset commands runs, XWin locks up and consumes 100% CPU
time. The same happens if I don't use XDMCP and only start XWin and a
single xterm in which I type the xset command.

Needless to say that the font server works fine with other X-Servers
(XFree86 3.x and 4.x on Linux and XSun on Solaris). In case it matters,
it's a simple xfs 3.3.6 which serves a few PostScript fonts.

Any idea on how to prevent the lock-up? Alternatively, if I could
distinguish XWin from other X-Servers in my xsession, I could simply
skip the xset command for XWin. But the output from xpdyinfo looks
identical for XWin and XFree86/Linux.

Thanks,
Martin


From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de  Fri Feb 28 14:45:00 2003
From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:45:00 -0000
Subject: Swedish kb please help
In-Reply-To: <C42E3A12C85D6F43BA7D6FF7E89B053A777D9F@ant02exc.ant-it.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302281544170.6068-100000@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>

On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Gunnar Bostr??m wrote:

> I can't get it to work.
> My installation of cygwin is in D:\gb\cygwin
> I saved the file in D:\gb\cygwin\etc\X11\XF86Config-4
> I start x by double-click the file D:\gb\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\startxwin.bat
> 
> I still have an american keyboard.
> What is wrong?

What does the logfile tell

bye
	ago
-- 
 Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723


From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu  Fri Feb 28 15:07:00 2003
From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 15:07:00 -0000
Subject: WMaker crashes when starting with startxwin.bat
In-Reply-To: <747.1046418724@www65.gmx.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302281003470.25599-100000@slinky.cs.nyu.edu>

Klaus,

FYI, HOME is set in the default /etc/profile...  When you start from the
Cygwin bash window, bash will have executed /etc/profile, and you have the
right $HOME.  If you run from a batch file, /etc/profile would not have
been executed, and $HOME not set.  Try putting 'bash --login -c "wmaker"',
for example, in your batch file...
	Igor

On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 Klaus.Moschner@gmx.de wrote:

> JS,
>
> yes, you're probably right. But now the tricky question:
> How can I change the windows home to point to my $HOME in cygwin to solve
> that problem?
>
> Klaus
>
> > Hi Klaus,
> >
> > This answer probably won't help because I'm probably speaking rubbish,
> > but I have got the same problem as you, so I know what you're talking
> > about.
> >
> > You can start wmaker from the cygwin window, but not from a batch file
> > (or more specifically a windows command window). I think this probably
> > has something to do with the user $HOME, because in Cygwin it knows
> > your $HOME is /home/user, and under there you have the GNUstep folder
> > with your WindowMaker settings. However your windows home is probably
> > pointing somewhere else, so WindowMaker can't find the GNUstep folder
> > in your home directory, causing it to crash?
> >
> > JS.
> >
> > >Hi all,
> > >
> > >I just installed Cygwin using the Internet installation including
> > >XFree86 and wmaker.  I can start X without any problem and I can
> > >start wmaker from the bash prompt.
> > >
> > >The only problem I have is with startxwin.bat. I changed the window
> > >manager in this file from twm to wmaker, but whenever I try, I get
> > >the following error:
> > >Window Maker received signal 11.
> > >I see that X is up and it even changed the background color according
> > >to the settings in startxwin.bat.
> > >
> > >In the archive for this mailing list I found the suggestion to change
> > >the HOME path settings, but either I did something wrong there, or
> > >the problem is something else.
> > >
> > >I can start wmaker using startxwin.sh and startx - no problem with
> > >this. Just startxwin.bat is the problem and just with wmaker.
> > >
> > >I'm really sorry if this is the wrong mailing list, or this is a real
> > >bug I should have reported somewhere else. I just think this is
> > >probably not a bug, because wmaker is running fine when started from
> > >the bash.
> > >
> > >Thanks very much for any help.
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >Klaus

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  -- /usr/games/fortune


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Feb 28 15:16:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 15:16:00 -0000
Subject: How has rxvt-2.7.9-4 been packaged?
In-Reply-To: <3E5F4BE1.6080606@email-server.info>
References: <3E5F4BE1.6080606@email-server.info>
Message-ID: <3E5F7D2B.8080306@msu.edu>

Actually, the rxct packager lurks on cygwin@cygwin.com... don't know if 
he listens here or not.

Harold

Alexander Skwar wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I'm now successfully running XFree86 4.3.0 - however, because of this, I
> need to recompile some packages, as they simply die because library
> names have changed.  One of these packages is rxvt.
> 
> With WindowMaker, I had good luck downloading the src package with the
> setup program.  I was then able to run "/usr/src/WindowMaker-0.80.0-2.sh
> all" to get a tar.bz2 file which I could install.
> 
> However, downloading rxvt-2.7.9-4-src results in a /usr/src/rxvt
> directory.  How would I build something installable from this?  Just the
> usual "./configure && make && make install" or did you apply any
> patches/configure options when packaging the rxvt-2.7.9-4.tar.bz2 for
> cygwin?
> 
> Thanks a lot,
> 
> Alexander Skwar


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Feb 28 15:29:00 2003
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 15:29:00 -0000
Subject: Lesstif update II
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302280922260.19283-100000@eos>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302280922260.19283-100000@eos>
Message-ID: <3E5F804C.1090402@msu.edu>

Oh... I don't think that will work because I don't believe that the 
Cygwin installer guarantees installation order (or maybe it was the 
order that the post-install scripts were run in)... but I could be wrong.

On the other hand, you could just add the same code that creates the 
links to the lesstif package... that way the links would be sure to 
exist no matter what.

Harold

Brian Ford wrote:
> It seems to me that a simple and maybe correct solution would just be to
> have the lesstif package require the Xlib package.  That seems to make
> sense and would assure that the links are made before lesstif (mwm) tries
> to put something there.  What do you think about that?
> 
> On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
> 
> 
>>I honestly don't know why.  I think it was something that was done by
>>the Xinstall.sh script.  Someone else with more X knowledge will have to
>>answer this question... however, I am perfectly willing to accept a
>>patch that maybe prevents the links from being created if the
>>directories already exist.  Or something along those lines.
>>
> 
> 


From yadin@pitt.edu  Fri Feb 28 15:51:00 2003
From: yadin@pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 15:51:00 -0000
Subject: compiling gv
References: <3E5BE955.6040602@arl.wustl.edu>
Message-ID: <b3o0f4$utm$1@main.gmane.org>

I also tried to compile this code with --enabe-runtime-pseudo reloc. It
compiles, but when invoking the exe I get instead
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown event type :   EnterWindow
Warning: ... found while parsing '<EnterWindow>:        highlight()
'
Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown event type :   EnterWindow
Warning: ... found while parsing '<EnterWindow>:highlight()'
Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown modifier name:   Any
Warning: ... found while parsing 'Any<BtnDown>:set()PopupMenu()'
Warning: String to TranslationTable conversion encountered errors
Error: attempt to add non-widget child "fileButton" to parent "control"
which supports only widgets
and it dies.
any clues?
"Ramaprabhu Janakiraman" <rama@arl.wustl.edu> wrote in message
news:3E5BE955.6040602@arl.wustl.edu...
> Hi,
>     I am trying to compile gv-3.5.8 on cygwin 1.3.20-1, and
> have the following problems: ld complains when
> I compile the source with --enable-auto-imports,
> and the compile went through when i turned on
> --enable-runtime-pseudo-reloc, but gv exits with
> "Error: Unresolved inheritance operation" when  I
> run it. I suspect this is related to the problem
> discussed in this thread on this list:
> http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-12/msg00189.html
>
> Could someone help me find a way to fix this without having
> to compile cygwin/Xfree86 myself? Did the proposed
> code (to redefine _XtInherit to a constant) not make
> it into the release yet?
>
> thanks in advance,
> -ram
>
>




From arnstein@panix.com  Fri Feb 28 16:33:00 2003
From: arnstein@panix.com (David Arnstein)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 16:33:00 -0000
Subject: Focus problem with -multiwindow
Message-ID: <3E5F8F6B.B2C37087@panix.com>

When I use the -multiwindow option in XWin, I get an intermitent focus 
problem.  What happens is one of the windows will get the keyboard 
focus and won't let it go, no matter what.  This makes all other 
windows useless.

I don't know what triggers this behavior, but netscape seems to have
something to do with it.

Any suggestions?

Here is my startxwin.sh file:

#! /usr/bin/bash
export PATH=/usr/X11R6/bin:/cygdrive/j/Bin:/cygdrive/j/Bin32:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/cygdrive/h/MKS/bin:/cygdrive/h/MKS/bin/x11:/cygdrive/h/MKS/mksnt:/cygdrive/k/Program\ Files/Resource\ Pro\ Kit/:/cygdrive/i/WINNT/system32:/cygdrive/i/WINNT

eval `ssh-agent`

# Cleanup from last run.
rm -rf /tmp/.X11-unix

# Start the X Server.
XWin -screen 0 1280 1024 -ac -nopn -multiwindow &
sleep 12

# Start clipboard server
xwinclip &

# Start an xterm.
xterm -n `hostname` -j -ls -sb -sl 500 -rightbar +cn -cb \
    -bg black -fg white -geometry +361+0 -e bash &
--
David Arnstein
arnstein@pobox.com


From mecklen@cimsoft.com  Fri Feb 28 16:34:00 2003
From: mecklen@cimsoft.com (Robert Mecklenburg)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 16:34:00 -0000
Subject: Trouble getting shift keypad events
Message-ID: <200302281633.h1SGXwAF028677@wolf.cimsoft.com>

I'm not sure if this is a cygwin emacs problem or a cygwin XFree
problem, but here goes.


Using emacs under xfree started with:

    start XWin -screen 0 830 1124 -rootless -clipboard

I am not getting shift-keypad events as expected.  When I type C-h c
<keypad 3> I get the message "<kp-next> runs the command ..." in the
minibuffer display area.  When I type C-h c <shift keypad 3> I get the
message "<next> runs the command ..." in the minibuffer display area.
Under nt emacs 


I run xev in an xterm and when I press keypad 3 I get:

KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xe00001,
    root 0x36, subw 0xe00002, time 342208796, (44,51), root:(153,118),
    state 0x0, keycode 89 (keysym 0xff9b, KP_Next), same_screen YES,
    XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""

KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xe00001,
    root 0x36, subw 0xe00002, time 342208968, (44,51), root:(153,118),
    state 0x0, keycode 89 (keysym 0xff9b, KP_Next), same_screen YES,
    XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""


when I press shift keypad three I get:

KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xe00001,
    root 0x36, subw 0xe00002, time 342277421, (31,30), root:(140,97),
    state 0x0, keycode 50 (keysym 0xffe1, Shift_L), same_screen YES,
    XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""

KeyPress event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xe00001,
    root 0x36, subw 0xe00002, time 342277609, (31,30), root:(140,97),
    state 0x1, keycode 89 (keysym 0xffb3, KP_3), same_screen YES,
    XLookupString gives 1 characters:  "3"

KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xe00001,
    root 0x36, subw 0xe00002, time 342277734, (31,30), root:(140,97),
    state 0x1, keycode 89 (keysym 0xffb3, KP_3), same_screen YES,
    XLookupString gives 1 characters:  "3"

KeyRelease event, serial 22, synthetic NO, window 0xe00001,
    root 0x36, subw 0xe00002, time 342277937, (31,30), root:(140,97),
    state 0x1, keycode 50 (keysym 0xffe1, Shift_L), same_screen YES,
    XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""


I have no idea if the xev output is correct.

Debugging this issue is made slightly more complex by an interesting
feature of emacs.  If a function is not bound to a keypad key, C-h c
reports a different keypress than if a function is bound.  If no
function is bound to keypad Enter C-h c reports RET as the keypress.
If a function is bound C-h c reports kp-enter.  So to reproduce the
problem I'm seeing you must bind some function to the keypad key:

	(global-set-key [kp-next] 'forward-word)
	(global-set-key [S-kp-next] 'forward-word)


Any suggestions on how to get cygwin emacs to recognize shift-keypad-3
as <S-kp-next> as nt emacs does?

Thanks,
-- 
Robert


From ford@vss.fsi.com  Fri Feb 28 18:44:00 2003
From: ford@vss.fsi.com (Brian Ford)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 18:44:00 -0000
Subject: Lesstif update II
In-Reply-To: <3E5F804C.1090402@msu.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302281104510.19283-200000@eos>

On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote:

> Oh... I don't think that will work because I don't believe that the
> Cygwin installer guarantees installation order (or maybe it was the
> order that the post-install scripts were run in)... but I could be wrong.
>
Doh!  It is the post install installation order that is not guaranteed.  I
think the actual install order does take into account dependencies.

> On the other hand, you could just add the same code that creates the
> links to the lesstif package... that way the links would be sure to
> exist no matter what.
>
This just seems like a hack.  Surely lesstif is not the only package that
tries to install its app-defaults in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults.

Attached is a new XFree86-lib.sh post install script that implements the
method described in programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/doc/Install section 4.2
"Installing over an old installation".  Please release a new XFree86-lib
with this fix.

I will consider changing the lesstif package to install its app-defaults
in /etc/X11 in the future if it does not appear to be too painful.

Thanks.

> Brian Ford wrote:
>
> > It seems to me that a simple and maybe correct solution would just be to
> > have the lesstif package require the Xlib package.  That seems to make
> > sense and would assure that the links are made before lesstif (mwm) tries
> > to put something there.  What do you think about that?
> >
> > On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
> >
> >>I honestly don't know why.  I think it was something that was done by
> >>the Xinstall.sh script.  Someone else with more X knowledge will have to
> >>answer this question... however, I am perfectly willing to accept a
> >>patch that maybe prevents the links from being created if the
> >>directories already exist.  Or something along those lines.
> >>

-- 
Brian Ford
Senior Realtime Software Engineer
VITAL - Visual Simulation Systems
FlightSafety International
Phone: 314-551-8460
Fax:   314-551-8444

-------------- next part --------------
#!/bin/sh

Xconfig=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11
etcXconfig=/etc/X11

mkdir -p $etcXconfig

subconfigs="app-defaults fs lbxproxy proxymngr rstart twm xdm xinit xsm xserver"
for dir in $subconfigs; do
    mkdir -p $etcXconfig/$dir
    if test -d $Xconfig/$dir; then
	tar -C $Xconfig/$dir -cf - . | tar -C $etcXconfig/$dir -xvpUf - && \
	rm -rf $Xconfig/$dir
    fi
    ln -sf $etcXconfig/$dir $Xconfig
done

From AnChizhik@ekmail.com  Fri Feb 28 19:08:00 2003
From: AnChizhik@ekmail.com (Chizhik, Andrew)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 19:08:00 -0000
Subject: More on my problem with installing XFree86 on Win2000
Message-ID: <31A0379C50ACD511848F00306E11876B37F013@ny01snt05.ekis.com>

After some digging around and manual unzipping and untaring, I've narrowed
down my installation problem to this: I can't make a directory named "fonts"
in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11, which is where it would be put by the installer. The
funny thing is that if I were to call it "font", it works just fine. When I
try to mkdir, I get the following error:

AnChizhik@NY02WDELC1C0801 ~
$ cd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/

AnChizhik@NY02WDELC1C0801 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11
$ ls
XErrorDB      app-defaults  fs        proxymngr  x11perfcomp  xkb
XKeysymDB     config        lbxproxy  rgb.txt    xdm          xman.help
XftConfig     doc           locale    rstart     xedit        xserver
app-defaults  etc           mwm       twm        xinit        xsm

AnChizhik@NY02WDELC1C0801 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11
$ mkdir fonts
mkdir: cannot create directory `fonts': no medium

If I create the folder in Windows Explorer, the creation works fine, and if
I do "ls", the folder name shows up. However, if I try to do ANYTHING to it
in Cygwin, it gives me a "No such file or directory" error.

Does anyone know what this stuff means? Is there some specific information
about my system/setup that I could give that would help in figuring out this
problem?

Thanks in advance.

Andrew Chizhik


From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu  Fri Feb 28 19:30:00 2003
From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 19:30:00 -0000
Subject: More on my problem with installing XFree86 on Win2000
In-Reply-To: <31A0379C50ACD511848F00306E11876B37F013@ny01snt05.ekis.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302281426060.25599-100000@slinky.cs.nyu.edu>

On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Chizhik, Andrew wrote:

> After some digging around and manual unzipping and untaring, I've narrowed
> down my installation problem to this: I can't make a directory named "fonts"
> in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11, which is where it would be put by the installer. The
> funny thing is that if I were to call it "font", it works just fine. When I
> try to mkdir, I get the following error:
>
> AnChizhik@NY02WDELC1C0801 ~
> $ cd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/
>
> AnChizhik@NY02WDELC1C0801 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11
> $ ls
> XErrorDB      app-defaults  fs        proxymngr  x11perfcomp  xkb
> XKeysymDB     config        lbxproxy  rgb.txt    xdm          xman.help
> XftConfig     doc           locale    rstart     xedit        xserver
> app-defaults  etc           mwm       twm        xinit        xsm
>
> AnChizhik@NY02WDELC1C0801 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11
> $ mkdir fonts
> mkdir: cannot create directory `fonts': no medium
>
> If I create the folder in Windows Explorer, the creation works fine, and if
> I do "ls", the folder name shows up. However, if I try to do ANYTHING to it
> in Cygwin, it gives me a "No such file or directory" error.
>
> Does anyone know what this stuff means? Is there some specific information
> about my system/setup that I could give that would help in figuring out this
> problem?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Andrew Chizhik

Andrew,

It doesn't work because this directory is a mount.  Installing the
XFree86-fnts package also mounts c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts on
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts (to force binary mode).  If the directory for
some reason disappears, the existence of the mount will not let you do
anything with it in Cygwin.

You could try to do the following:

$ umount -s /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts
$ mkdir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts
$ /etc/postinstall/XFree86-fnts.sh.done

	Igor
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  -- /usr/games/fortune


From AnChizhik@ekmail.com  Fri Feb 28 19:56:00 2003
From: AnChizhik@ekmail.com (Chizhik, Andrew)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 19:56:00 -0000
Subject: More on my problem with installing XFree86 on Win2000
Message-ID: <31A0379C50ACD511848F00306E11876B37F016@ny01snt05.ekis.com>

Thak you so much, Igor. That problem is resolved, thanks to your help.

What really brings a smile to my face, though, is your e-mail address. See,
I'm a first-semester sophmore in NYU, and for some reason I find great irony
in that the person who helped me with this problem was another NYU student.

Andrew

P.S. The reason I wanted XWindows is to make the configuration for uClinux
easier. I'm working on an embedded project, you see. So now, I'm gonna
bounce from the errors with Cygwin back to errors with uClinux. Once again,
thanks a lot.


-----Original Message-----
From: Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu]
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 2:31 PM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: More on my problem with installing XFree86 on Win2000


On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Chizhik, Andrew wrote:

> After some digging around and manual unzipping and untaring, I've narrowed
> down my installation problem to this: I can't make a directory named
"fonts"
> in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11, which is where it would be put by the installer.
The
> funny thing is that if I were to call it "font", it works just fine. When
I
> try to mkdir, I get the following error:
>
> AnChizhik@NY02WDELC1C0801 ~
> $ cd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/
>
> AnChizhik@NY02WDELC1C0801 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11
> $ ls
> XErrorDB      app-defaults  fs        proxymngr  x11perfcomp  xkb
> XKeysymDB     config        lbxproxy  rgb.txt    xdm          xman.help
> XftConfig     doc           locale    rstart     xedit        xserver
> app-defaults  etc           mwm       twm        xinit        xsm
>
> AnChizhik@NY02WDELC1C0801 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11
> $ mkdir fonts
> mkdir: cannot create directory `fonts': no medium
>
> If I create the folder in Windows Explorer, the creation works fine, and
if
> I do "ls", the folder name shows up. However, if I try to do ANYTHING to
it
> in Cygwin, it gives me a "No such file or directory" error.
>
> Does anyone know what this stuff means? Is there some specific information
> about my system/setup that I could give that would help in figuring out
this
> problem?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Andrew Chizhik

Andrew,

It doesn't work because this directory is a mount.  Installing the
XFree86-fnts package also mounts c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts on
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts (to force binary mode).  If the directory for
some reason disappears, the existence of the mount will not let you do
anything with it in Cygwin.

You could try to do the following:

$ umount -s /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts
$ mkdir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts
$ /etc/postinstall/XFree86-fnts.sh.done

	Igor
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     |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'		Igor Pechtchanski
    '---''(_/--'  `-'\_) fL	a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-.  Meow!

Oh, boy, virtual memory! Now I'm gonna make myself a really *big* RAMdisk!
  -- /usr/games/fortune


From andrew.markebo@telia.com  Fri Feb 28 20:13:00 2003
From: andrew.markebo@telia.com (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 20:13:00 -0000
Subject: Mount of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts..`??
Message-ID: <m3znogtbab.fsf@telia.com>

Just a quick question, why is /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts separately
mounted? Is it to make sure that it is binary mounted or?

         /Andy
-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu  Fri Feb 28 21:07:00 2003
From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 21:07:00 -0000
Subject: Mount of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts..`??
In-Reply-To: <m3znogtbab.fsf@telia.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0302281606520.25599-100000@slinky.cs.nyu.edu>

On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Andrew Markebo wrote:

> Just a quick question, why is /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts separately
> mounted? Is it to make sure that it is binary mounted or?
>          /Andy

Yes.
	Igor
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ZZZzz /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_		igor@watson.ibm.com
     |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'		Igor Pechtchanski
    '---''(_/--'  `-'\_) fL	a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-.  Meow!

Oh, boy, virtual memory! Now I'm gonna make myself a really *big* RAMdisk!
  -- /usr/games/fortune


From millueradfa@yahoo.com  Fri Feb 28 22:17:00 2003
From: millueradfa@yahoo.com (Milscvaer)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 22:17:00 -0000
Subject: X 4.2.0-26 Bug, problems related to popup menus in applications
Message-ID: <20030228221754.68183.qmail@web41107.mail.yahoo.com>

There is a problem with menus in the -multiwindow
mode, i have noticed in emacs. Try starting emacs
-display :0 and then clicking many menus, you should
eventually see blocks of windows that do not go away.
There are drawing problems, the emacs window becomes
corrupted, blocks of the emacs window are still
displayed in emacs and other X app windows even if you
minimise it. 

I think the -multiwindow mode is great though, thank
you, thank you so much to those who have worked on
this. This is greatly apprieciated, it is so good as
well to have a complete X system on Windows, with all
of the standard X clients.

I like the dummy window feature a lot. It asbolutely
should continue to be included. I do think maybe there
should be an option to have it hidden, a great idea
would be to put an icon for it on the icon tray (next
to the taskbar clock), there it is out of the way from
the users of the computers I administer from
accidently clicking on it, and wondering what
happened. The -rootless mode is also great, but the
downside is the X applications are not accessible on
the taskbar, it would be nice if there were an option
to make them appear on the taskbar, if thats possible.
Perhaps the -rootless mode should also have an
optional dummy window, for accessing the window
managers desktop right click menus, etc. 

Agian, thank you so much, for this wonderful and
complete X implementation, it very much apprieciated. 

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