From komanek@natur.cuni.cz Tue Apr 1 11:50:00 2003 From: komanek@natur.cuni.cz (David Komanek) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 11:50:00 -0000 Subject: How to off automatic detection of non-U.S. keyboard configurations ? Message-ID: <3E897CFC.7050105@natur.cuni.cz> Hi all, please, is there any way to switch back to us-keyborad mapping on the non-us WinXP ? It seems there is an automatic detection of non-U.S. keyboard configurations in Cygwin XFree (4.2.0, downloaded and installed today) and I have no idea how to switch it off. I didn't find an answer neither in maillist archives nor XFree faq. Or is there at least a way to pass charactesr via ASCII codes to the xterm window ? Thanks in advance, David Komanek From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Apr 1 12:39:00 2003 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 12:39:00 -0000 Subject: How to off automatic detection of non-U.S. keyboard configurations ? In-Reply-To: <3E897CFC.7050105@natur.cuni.cz> Message-ID: On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, David Komanek wrote: > > Hi all, > > please, is there any way to switch back to us-keyborad mapping on the > non-us WinXP ? It seems there is an automatic detection of non-U.S. > keyboard configurations in Cygwin XFree (4.2.0, downloaded and installed > today) and I have no idea how to switch it off. I didn't find an answer > neither in maillist archives nor XFree faq. get the config file from http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/XF86Config.bz2 unpack it to /etc/X11/XF86Config and set the Option "XkbLayout" to "us" bye ago From karheng@softhome.net Tue Apr 1 20:24:00 2003 From: karheng@softhome.net (Chan Kar Heng) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 20:24:00 -0000 Subject: making X server a COM object.. In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030331155505.02b0dac0@pop3.cris.com> References: <3E88D455.8030900@msu.edu> <5.1.0.14.1.20030331225300.00a0c030@pop.softhome.net> <5.1.0.14.1.20030331225300.00a0c030@pop.softhome.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20030402042200.00a3fa40@pop.softhome.net> hmmm... i'd certainly avoid porting XFree86 to use win32 instead of cygwin... i have a feeling it'd be a *lot* of effort... i'm thinking.. if it might work if all the .dll files and XWin.exe required were compiled to .o or .a files.. then using a COM object, statically link in all those .o or .a files... (it would be a pretty huge COM obj though, but it's a start at least?)... At 2003/04/01 07:58, you wrote: >Harold, > >At 15:50 2003-03-31, you wrote: >>KH, >> >>The scope is probably beyond the scope of this mailing list. >> >>I think you would be better off working first on a version of Cygwin/XFree86 that compiled without Cygwin... then, and only then, could you even begin to worry about wrapping XFree86 with a COM interface. > >Cygwin /XFree86 without Cygwin is Win32/XFree86, or some such, is it not? > >It always seemed to me that the target specifier ought to come after the main program name: XFree86/Cygwin, XFree86/Win32, etc. > > >>Harold > >Randall Schulz From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 1 21:25:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 21:25:00 -0000 Subject: making X server a COM object.. In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20030402042200.00a3fa40@pop.softhome.net> References: <3E88D455.8030900@msu.edu> <5.1.0.14.1.20030331225300.00a0c030@pop.softhome.net> <5.1.0.14.1.20030331225300.00a0c030@pop.softhome.net> <5.1.0.14.1.20030402042200.00a3fa40@pop.softhome.net> Message-ID: <3E8A03A6.2070608@msu.edu> Not to be rude... but I don't think you have a firm grasp on the scope of what you are talking about. Harold Chan Kar Heng wrote: > hmmm... i'd certainly avoid porting XFree86 to use win32 instead of cygwin... > i have a feeling it'd be a *lot* of effort... > > i'm thinking.. if it might work if all the .dll files and XWin.exe required were > compiled to .o or .a files.. then using a COM object, statically link in all > those .o or .a files... (it would be a pretty huge COM obj though, but it's > a start at least?)... > > > At 2003/04/01 07:58, you wrote: > >>Harold, >> >>At 15:50 2003-03-31, you wrote: >> >>>KH, >>> >>>The scope is probably beyond the scope of this mailing list. >>> >>>I think you would be better off working first on a version of Cygwin/XFree86 that compiled without Cygwin... then, and only then, could you even begin to worry about wrapping XFree86 with a COM interface. >> >>Cygwin /XFree86 without Cygwin is Win32/XFree86, or some such, is it not? >> >>It always seemed to me that the target specifier ought to come after the main program name: XFree86/Cygwin, XFree86/Win32, etc. >> >> >> >>>Harold >> >>Randall Schulz > > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 1 22:14:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 22:14:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-27 Message-ID: The XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-27 package has been updated in the Cygwin distribution. Changes: 1) Native GDI engine is finished! 100 fold performance improvement! (Harold Hunt, Mickey Mouse) 2) Native Windows version of Cygwin/XFree86 released --- no need for Cygwin. (Harold Hunt, Foo Bar) 3) Windows and X clipboard integration now works flawlessly. (Harold Hunt, Frodo Baggins) :) -- Harold Hunt To update your installation, click on the "Install Cygwin now" link on the http://cygwin.com/ web page. This downloads setup.exe to your system. Save it and run setup, answer the questions and pick up 'XFree86-xserv' from the 'XFree86' category. You may need to click the "Full" button if it doesn't show up. Note that downloads from sources.redhat.com (aka cygwin.com) aren't allowed due to bandwidth limitations. This means that you will need to find a mirror which has this update. In the US, ftp://archive.progeny.com/cygwin/ is a reliable high bandwidth connection. In Japan, ftp://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/gnu/gnu-win32/ is usually up-to-date. In DK, http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/cygwin/ is usually up-to-date. If one of the above doesn't have the latest version of this package you can either wait for the site to be updated or find another mirror. Please send questions or comments to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list at: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com . If you want to subscribe go to: http://cygwin.com/lists.html I would appreciate if you would use this mailing list rather than emailing me directly. This includes ideas and comments about the setup utility or Cygwin/XFree86 in general. If you want to make a point or ask a question the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list is the appropriate place. From rasjidw@openminddev.net Tue Apr 1 23:20:00 2003 From: rasjidw@openminddev.net (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 23:20:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-27 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200304020920.08456.rasjidw@openminddev.net> On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 08:14 am, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > The XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-27 package has been updated in the Cygwin > distribution. > > > Changes: > > 1) Native GDI engine is finished! 100 fold performance improvement! > (Harold Hunt, Mickey Mouse) > > 2) Native Windows version of Cygwin/XFree86 released --- no need > for Cygwin. (Harold Hunt, Foo Bar) > > 3) Windows and X clipboard integration now works flawlessly. > (Harold Hunt, Frodo Baggins) > > :) > > -- > Harold Hunt Do Mickey, Foo and Frodo have PayPal accounts? I'd like to make a donation. Rasjid. From kiwhan@hotmail.com Wed Apr 2 00:28:00 2003 From: kiwhan@hotmail.com (kiwhan chung) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 00:28:00 -0000 Subject: startx from bash can not find cygwin1.dll Message-ID: When I type in 'startx' on Bash shell prompt, I get a windows dialog about 'xinit.exe - Unable To Locate DLL' I noticed this is in the FAQ list, so I tried to search for extra copies of cygwin1.dll files, but I only have one copy in c:\cygwin\bin. FYI, I am running Win 2k, SP2. Thank you for your help. Kiwhan _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From andrew.markebo@telia.com Wed Apr 2 07:52:00 2003 From: andrew.markebo@telia.com (Andrew Markebo) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 07:52:00 -0000 Subject: startx from bash can not find cygwin1.dll In-Reply-To: ("kiwhan chung"'s message of "Tue, 01 Apr 2003 17:28:21 -0700") References: Message-ID: Tried startxwin? /A / "kiwhan chung" wrote: | When I type in 'startx' on Bash shell prompt, I get a windows dialog about | 'xinit.exe - Unable To Locate DLL' I noticed this is in the FAQ list, | so I tried to search for extra copies of cygwin1.dll files, but I only | have one copy in c:\cygwin\bin. | | FYI, I am running Win 2k, SP2. | | Thank you for your help. | | | Kiwhan | | | _________________________________________________________________ | MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* | http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus | | -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From andrew.markebo@telia.com Wed Apr 2 07:56:00 2003 From: andrew.markebo@telia.com (Andrew Markebo) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 07:56:00 -0000 Subject: startx from bash can not find cygwin1.dll In-Reply-To: ("kiwhan chung"'s message of "Tue, 01 Apr 2003 17:28:21 -0700") References: Message-ID: Tried startxwin.sh or startxwin.bat? /A p.s. oops sorry if duplicate had a little problem with mailsystem.. / "kiwhan chung" wrote: | When I type in 'startx' on Bash shell prompt, I get a windows dialog about | 'xinit.exe - Unable To Locate DLL' I noticed this is in the FAQ list, | so I tried to search for extra copies of cygwin1.dll files, but I only | have one copy in c:\cygwin\bin. | | FYI, I am running Win 2k, SP2. | | Thank you for your help. | | | Kiwhan | | | _________________________________________________________________ | MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* | http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus | | -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From komanek@natur.cuni.cz Wed Apr 2 08:19:00 2003 From: komanek@natur.cuni.cz (David Komanek) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 08:19:00 -0000 Subject: How to off automatic detection of non-U.S. keyboard configurations ? References: Message-ID: <3E8A9CDC.6060507@natur.cuni.cz> Yes, it works great in my Czech clone of WinXP. Thank you very much. Best regards, David Komanek Hi all, >>please, is there any way to switch back to us-keyborad mapping on the >>non-us WinXP ? It seems there is an automatic detection of non-U.S. >>keyboard configurations in Cygwin XFree (4.2.0, downloaded and installed >>today) and I have no idea how to switch it off. I didn't find an answer >>neither in maillist archives nor XFree faq. >> >> > >get the config file from http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/XF86Config.bz2 >unpack it to /etc/X11/XF86Config and set the Option "XkbLayout" to "us" > >bye > ago > > From tiroy@poczta.onet.pl Wed Apr 2 09:22:00 2003 From: tiroy@poczta.onet.pl (Tomasz Rojek) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 09:22:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-27 References: <200304020920.08456.rasjidw@openminddev.net> Message-ID: > Do Mickey, Foo and Frodo have PayPal accounts? I'd like to make a donation. For sure you can pass your donation to Harold - he will definitely deliver the money to respective person ;-) -- Tomasz Rojek From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 2 12:28:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 12:28:00 -0000 Subject: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-27 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: By all means :) > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Tomasz Rojek > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 4:21 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-27 > > > > Do Mickey, Foo and Frodo have PayPal accounts? I'd like to make a > donation. > For sure you can pass your donation to Harold - he will definitely deliver > the money to respective person ;-) > > -- > Tomasz Rojek > > > From lkindt@us.ibm.com Wed Apr 2 13:30:00 2003 From: lkindt@us.ibm.com (Louis Kindt) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 13:30:00 -0000 Subject: Root Problmems Message-ID: I can't seem to find the answer I'm looking for in FAQ's, so could somebody help me? I am trying to install Open DX on my computer for use in data analysis. I need a X Server to operate it and XFree86 is recommended by Open DX. However, when I go to install the software, CYGWIN-XFree86 won't let me and gives the message "Sorry you must be root to install this software." There is no ROOT user on my system. I am currently running Windows NT. How do I get around this probelm? I am not a computer programer, so alot of this stuff is pretty Greek to me. Thanks Louis Louis Kindt NGL Mask Infrastructure IBM Microelectronics, Essex Jct, VT Ph: (802) 769-1205 Fax: (802) 769-2110 e-mail: lkindt@us.ibm.com From gp@raaengineers.com Wed Apr 2 14:05:00 2003 From: gp@raaengineers.com (Gerald Pekmezi) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 14:05:00 -0000 Subject: Need help with a glu problem Message-ID: I am trying to build a finite element program from source. All goes well until I get the following error message: gcc -O2 -Wall -I./ -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -c -o setFunktions.o setFunktions.c cc1: warning: changing search order for system directory "/usr/include" cc1: warning: as it has already been specified as a non-system directory setFunktions.c: In function `drawNurl_plot': setFunktions.c:1286: `GLU_ERROR' undeclared (first use in this function) setFunktions.c:1286: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once setFunktions.c:1286: for each function it appears in.) setFunktions.c:1286: warning: passing arg 3 of `gluNurbsCallback' from incompatible pointer type setFunktions.c: In function `drawNurs_plot': setFunktions.c:1353: `GLU_ERROR' undeclared (first use in this function) setFunktions.c:1353: warning: passing arg 3 of `gluNurbsCallback' from incompatible pointer type setFunktions.c: In function `senddata': setFunktions.c:5985: warning: passing arg 4 of `qsort' from incompatible pointer type setFunktions.c:6054: warning: passing arg 4 of `qsort' from incompatible pointer type make: *** [setFunktions.o] Error 1 I can see where GLU_ERROR is defined in /usr/X11R6/include/GL/glu.h so I don't understand the reason for the error. Thanks in advance for any help From bijumaillist@yahoo.com Wed Apr 2 14:57:00 2003 From: bijumaillist@yahoo.com (Biju G C) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 14:57:00 -0000 Subject: startx from bash can not find cygwin1.dll In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030402145704.51472.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> Kiwhan, I dont know what is actual requirement. If you looking to get some sort of activex control which can be embedded in a VB Program. Then try WeirdX java version of XWin. And may be u can get documentation for calling javabean from VB at sun java site. Links:- http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/index.html http://java.sun.com/j2se/vb.development.center.html Cheers Biju CyGNOME - GNOME on Cygwin - http://cygnome.sourceforge.net/ --- Andrew Markebo wrote: > Tried startxwin.sh or startxwin.bat? > > /A > > p.s. oops sorry if duplicate had a little problem with mailsystem.. > > / "kiwhan chung" wrote: > | When I type in 'startx' on Bash shell prompt, I get a windows dialog about > | 'xinit.exe - Unable To Locate DLL' I noticed this is in the FAQ list, > | so I tried to search for extra copies of cygwin1.dll files, but I only > | have one copy in c:\cygwin\bin. > | > | FYI, I am running Win 2k, SP2. > | > | Thank you for your help. > | > | > | Kiwhan __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com From bijumaillist@yahoo.com Wed Apr 2 15:04:00 2003 From: bijumaillist@yahoo.com (Biju G C) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 15:04:00 -0000 Subject: Sorry Kiwhan and Chan Kar Heng In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030402150444.98435.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com> Kiwhan and Chan Kar Heng, I accidently clicked wrong thread to reply. Sorry my previous mail was to Chan Kar Heng. :( Biju --- Andrew Markebo wrote: > Tried startxwin.sh or startxwin.bat? > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com From electabuzz@katamail.com Wed Apr 2 15:24:00 2003 From: electabuzz@katamail.com (kaio) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 15:24:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard non-US Message-ID: Can be used an IT keyboard layout instead? From andrew.markebo@telia.com Wed Apr 2 18:23:00 2003 From: andrew.markebo@telia.com (Andrew Markebo) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 18:23:00 -0000 Subject: Root Problmems References: Message-ID: With cygwin-xfree86, do you mean the cygwin setup.exe? You need to be an Administrator, or power-user on the NT-system.. Yep sounds like a bad formulation of the error. /Andy / Louis Kindt wrote: | [...] | However, when I go to install the software, CYGWIN-XFree86 won't | let me and gives the message "Sorry you must be root to install this | software." There is no ROOT user on my system. I am currently | running Windows NT. How do I get around this probelm? I am not a | computer programer, so alot of this stuff is pretty Greek to me. | -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From andrew.markebo@telia.com Wed Apr 2 18:31:00 2003 From: andrew.markebo@telia.com (Andrew Markebo) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 18:31:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard non-US In-Reply-To: ("kaio"'s message of "Wed, 2 Apr 2003 15:18:48 +0200") References: Message-ID: / "kaio" wrote: | Can be used an IT keyboard layout instead? | If you have a modern xfree it should find your keyboard layout automatically (or it is still beta?), if still problem - throw an eye or two at the faq at http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html 4.4 is probably interesting.. /Andy -- The eye of the compiler rests on the code! From gp@raaengineers.com Wed Apr 2 20:18:00 2003 From: gp@raaengineers.com (Gary Pekmezi) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 20:18:00 -0000 Subject: Need help with a glu problem Message-ID: <40E7F730AEEB184695AF900EB34D418901B631@raaserver.raaengineers.local> I found the solution to this particular problem. I deleted /usr/include and kept /usr/X11R6/include in my makefile. Now if I could only figure out what "make error 255" is. "Gerald Pekmezi" wrote in message news:... > I am trying to build a finite element program from source. All goes > well until I get the following error message: > > gcc -O2 -Wall -I./ -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -c -o > setFunktions.o setFunktions.c > cc1: warning: changing search order for system directory > "/usr/include" > cc1: warning: as it has already been specified as a non-system directory > setFunktions.c: In function `drawNurl_plot': > setFunktions.c:1286: `GLU_ERROR' undeclared (first use in this function) > setFunktions.c:1286: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > setFunktions.c:1286: for each function it appears in.) > setFunktions.c:1286: warning: passing arg 3 of `gluNurbsCallback' from > incompatible pointer type > setFunktions.c: In function `drawNurs_plot': > setFunktions.c:1353: `GLU_ERROR' undeclared (first use in this function) > setFunktions.c:1353: warning: passing arg 3 of `gluNurbsCallback' from > incompatible pointer type > setFunktions.c: In function `senddata': > setFunktions.c:5985: warning: passing arg 4 of `qsort' from incompatible > pointer type > setFunktions.c:6054: warning: passing arg 4 of `qsort' from incompatible > pointer type > make: *** [setFunktions.o] Error 1 > > I can see where GLU_ERROR is defined in /usr/X11R6/include/GL/glu.h so > I don't understand the reason for the error. Thanks in advance for any > help > > > > From ford@vss.fsi.com Wed Apr 2 20:20:00 2003 From: ford@vss.fsi.com (Brian Ford) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 20:20:00 -0000 Subject: What package is GLX OpenGL from? Message-ID: My appologies if this is a FAQ, but I haven't found the answer to this, or the more generic question: "How do I determine what package file x came from?" Help with either is greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- Brian Ford Senior Realtime Software Engineer VITAL - Visual Simulation Systems FlightSafety International Phone: 314-551-8460 Fax: 314-551-8444 From karheng@softhome.net Wed Apr 2 20:30:00 2003 From: karheng@softhome.net (Chan Kar Heng) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 20:30:00 -0000 Subject: making X server a COM object.. In-Reply-To: <3E8A03A6.2070608@msu.edu> References: <5.1.0.14.1.20030402042200.00a3fa40@pop.softhome.net> <3E88D455.8030900@msu.edu> <5.1.0.14.1.20030331225300.00a0c030@pop.softhome.net> <5.1.0.14.1.20030331225300.00a0c030@pop.softhome.net> <5.1.0.14.1.20030402042200.00a3fa40@pop.softhome.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20030403022545.00a4ab30@pop.softhome.net> thank you for the courtesy.. :) .. and i would likely (85%) agree with you that i do not have a firm grasp on the scope... probably more.. probably less.. but if i had a firm grasp, i probably wouldn't need to ask around the gurus here right? :) what i do hope is to be able to get some pointers directly at potential problems... and why it might be impossible to solve... rather than spending the time to research each one of them (cygwin, cygwin xfree, COM, etc) in detail to look for potential problems... if the issue might be a lengthy one... i suppose some urls or general description of the issue would suffice. some potential problems that i can foresee from what i picked up so far: - different and likely conflicting runtimes... atlcrt, msvcrt, cygwin1. if i'm not mistaken, in this case, it's possible to have the cake and still eat it... but it's very very tricky... - threading... - COM on cygwin (even COM on mingw is difficult enough.. and one can't use C++ due to different name mangling technique). do correct me in areas where i might be wrong... havn't been following on cygwin xfree86... so don't know much bout it... comments? rgds, kh >Not to be rude... but I don't think you have a firm grasp on the scope of what you are talking about. > >Harold > >Chan Kar Heng wrote: >>hmmm... i'd certainly avoid porting XFree86 to use win32 instead of cygwin... >>i have a feeling it'd be a *lot* of effort... >>i'm thinking.. if it might work if all the .dll files and XWin.exe required were >>compiled to .o or .a files.. then using a COM object, statically link in all >>those .o or .a files... (it would be a pretty huge COM obj though, but it's >>a start at least?)... >> >>At 2003/04/01 07:58, you wrote: >> >>>Harold, >>> >>>At 15:50 2003-03-31, you wrote: >>> >>>>KH, >>>> >>>>The scope is probably beyond the scope of this mailing list. >>>> >>>>I think you would be better off working first on a version of Cygwin/XFree86 that compiled without Cygwin... then, and only then, could you even begin to worry about wrapping XFree86 with a COM interface. >>> >>>Cygwin /XFree86 without Cygwin is Win32/XFree86, or some such, is it not? >>> >>>It always seemed to me that the target specifier ought to come after the main program name: XFree86/Cygwin, XFree86/Win32, etc. >>> >>> >>> >>>>Harold >>> >>>Randall Schulz >> From karheng@softhome.net Wed Apr 2 20:30:00 2003 From: karheng@softhome.net (Chan Kar Heng) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 20:30:00 -0000 Subject: making X server a COM object.. In-Reply-To: <20030402145704.51472.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20030403022102.00a4dec0@pop.softhome.net> :) thanks... i've already tried weirdx out (as i've mentioned when i first posted this question.) it doesn't completely support X yet... tried running several window managers on it and some didn't function properly... tried some games on it too.. same prob. but my main issue with weirdx is a lack of support for GLX.... i'm hunting for an applet or a COM object that can be embedded into a web page that in turn, can be placed into a web browser... it can be a little bit heavy for now.. but ultimately, it has to be light weight, or require minimal installation. rgds, kh >I dont know what is actual requirement. If you looking to get some sort of activex control which >can be embedded in a VB Program. Then try WeirdX java version of XWin. And may be u can get >documentation for calling javabean from VB at sun java site. > >Links:- >http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/index.html >http://java.sun.com/j2se/vb.development.center.html From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Apr 2 20:39:00 2003 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 20:39:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard non-US In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Andrew Markebo wrote: > / "kaio" wrote: > | Can be used an IT keyboard layout instead? > | > > If you have a modern xfree it should find your keyboard layout No. Italian is not in the list. I've not received information what windows reports for itali keyboards and have not added it. bye ago From davidf@sjsoft.com Wed Apr 2 20:46:00 2003 From: davidf@sjsoft.com (David Fraser) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 20:46:00 -0000 Subject: making X server a COM object.. In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20030403022545.00a4ab30@pop.softhome.net> References: <5.1.0.14.1.20030402042200.00a3fa40@pop.softhome.net> <3E88D455.8030900@msu.edu> <5.1.0.14.1.20030331225300.00a0c030@pop.softhome.net> <5.1.0.14.1.20030331225300.00a0c030@pop.softhome.net> <5.1.0.14.1.20030402042200.00a3fa40@pop.softhome.net> <5.1.0.14.1.20030403022545.00a4ab30@pop.softhome.net> Message-ID: <3E8B4C21.8080505@sjsoft.com> Chan Kar Heng wrote: >thank you for the courtesy.. :) >.. and i would likely (85%) agree with you that i do not have a >firm grasp on the scope... probably more.. probably less.. >but if i had a firm grasp, i probably wouldn't need to ask around >the gurus here right? :) > >what i do hope is to be able to get some pointers directly at >potential problems... and why it might be impossible to solve... >rather than spending the time to research each one of them >(cygwin, cygwin xfree, COM, etc) in detail to look for potential >problems... >if the issue might be a lengthy one... i suppose some urls or >general description of the issue would suffice. > I think you should describe exactly why you want to put XFree86 in a COM object, for what purpose, what you would use it for etc. I presume you mean you want to make it an ActiveX control, is this true? David From rrschulz@cris.com Wed Apr 2 20:52:00 2003 From: rrschulz@cris.com (Randall R Schulz) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 20:52:00 -0000 Subject: What package is GLX OpenGL from? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030402123558.028a16d0@pop3.cris.com> Hi, Everybody! (with a Dr. Nick Riviera intonation) With the Monty Python "Spam" song intonation: FAQ, FAQ, FAQ, FAQ FAQ, FAQ, FAQ, FAQ But in keeping with my policy of not taunting or scolding without including a constructive answer, go here: . For best results, use as much as you know about the name. The search is a non-anchored grep pattern match against the package content lists. File suffixes can help, but beware that some standard command names are symlinks or scripts, so a ".exe" suffix will not be present in those cases. Randall Schulz At 11:05 2003-04-02, you wrote: >My appologies if this is a FAQ, but I haven't found the answer to this, or >the more generic question: "How do I determine what package file x came >from?" > >Help with either is greatly appreciated. Thanks. > >-- >Brian Ford From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Wed Apr 2 20:59:00 2003 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 20:59:00 -0000 Subject: Clipboard bug - Crash Message-ID: Hi, I hope this hasn't already been reported; Steps to reproduce: Use the latest release version of Cygwin-XFree Start any text editor. Repeatedly paste a block of text into the editor until there is more than 30-40 KB of text in there. Select all the text. XWin will fault and be closed by Windows. I am running Windows XP in multiple-monitor mode, although I doubt that really has any effect on this. Thanks. From andrew.markebo@telia.com Wed Apr 2 21:04:00 2003 From: andrew.markebo@telia.com (Andrew Markebo) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 21:04:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard non-US References: Message-ID: Maybe should update the FAQ on this issue.. how the keyboard layout is controlled today.. *Oh you are looking at me?* *okee.. I might throw an eye or two at the faq ;-)* (send some stupid suggestions, and then some other who knows about it will send the correct info and it is just to copy'n'paste) ;-) /Andy / Alexander Gottwald wrote: | On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Andrew Markebo wrote: | |> / "kaio" wrote: |> | Can be used an IT keyboard layout instead? |> | |> |> If you have a modern xfree it should find your keyboard layout | | No. Italian is not in the list. I've not received information what windows reports | for itali keyboards and have not added it. | | bye | ago | | -- The eye of the linker rests on the libs! From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 2 21:11:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 21:11:00 -0000 Subject: making X server a COM object.. In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20030403022545.00a4ab30@pop.softhome.net> References: <5.1.0.14.1.20030402042200.00a3fa40@pop.softhome.net> <3E88D455.8030900@msu.edu> <5.1.0.14.1.20030331225300.00a0c030@pop.softhome.net> <5.1.0.14.1.20030331225300.00a0c030@pop.softhome.net> <5.1.0.14.1.20030402042200.00a3fa40@pop.softhome.net> <5.1.0.14.1.20030403022545.00a4ab30@pop.softhome.net> Message-ID: <3E8B51E0.1050202@msu.edu> KH, What is am saying is that COM, by itself, is something you have to sit down with for a few months before you even realize if what you are suggesting is possible. No amount of pointers from other people are going to help. Similarly, X is something that you have to sit down with for a few months before you can determine if such things are possible. We can talk about threading, ATL, etc... but it won't matter until you are presenting a coherent framework (which would take about 20 pages to describe). At that point, feel free to ask, "what did I forget?". Understand though that asking us "will this work" is too open-ended of a question. We just can't spend time on your question until you demonstrate that you have spent a lot of time with it already. Harold Chan Kar Heng wrote: > thank you for the courtesy.. :) > .. and i would likely (85%) agree with you that i do not have a > firm grasp on the scope... probably more.. probably less.. > but if i had a firm grasp, i probably wouldn't need to ask around > the gurus here right? :) > > what i do hope is to be able to get some pointers directly at > potential problems... and why it might be impossible to solve... > rather than spending the time to research each one of them > (cygwin, cygwin xfree, COM, etc) in detail to look for potential > problems... > if the issue might be a lengthy one... i suppose some urls or > general description of the issue would suffice. > > some potential problems that i can foresee from what i picked up > so far: > > - different and likely conflicting runtimes... atlcrt, msvcrt, cygwin1. > if i'm not mistaken, in this case, it's possible to have the cake > and still eat it... but it's very very tricky... > - threading... > - COM on cygwin (even COM on mingw is difficult enough.. and > one can't use C++ due to different name mangling technique). > > do correct me in areas where i might be wrong... > > havn't been following on cygwin xfree86... so don't know much > bout it... > > comments? > > > rgds, > > kh > > > > >>Not to be rude... but I don't think you have a firm grasp on the scope of what you are talking about. >> >>Harold >> >>Chan Kar Heng wrote: >> >>>hmmm... i'd certainly avoid porting XFree86 to use win32 instead of cygwin... >>>i have a feeling it'd be a *lot* of effort... >>>i'm thinking.. if it might work if all the .dll files and XWin.exe required were >>>compiled to .o or .a files.. then using a COM object, statically link in all >>>those .o or .a files... (it would be a pretty huge COM obj though, but it's >>>a start at least?)... >>> >>>At 2003/04/01 07:58, you wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Harold, >>>> >>>>At 15:50 2003-03-31, you wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>KH, >>>>> >>>>>The scope is probably beyond the scope of this mailing list. >>>>> >>>>>I think you would be better off working first on a version of Cygwin/XFree86 that compiled without Cygwin... then, and only then, could you even begin to worry about wrapping XFree86 with a COM interface. >>>> >>>>Cygwin /XFree86 without Cygwin is Win32/XFree86, or some such, is it not? >>>> >>>>It always seemed to me that the target specifier ought to come after the main program name: XFree86/Cygwin, XFree86/Win32, etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Harold >>>> >>>>Randall Schulz >>> > > From gp@raaengineers.com Wed Apr 2 21:28:00 2003 From: gp@raaengineers.com (Gary Pekmezi) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 21:28:00 -0000 Subject: Need help with a glu problem Message-ID: <40E7F730AEEB184695AF900EB34D418901B633@raaserver.raaengineers.local> Thanks for the reply. I actually figured out this too; somewhere in the makefile, cc was used instead of gcc. My newest problem involves a statement about undefined references to routines in glut.h. Everywhere a glut function is called there is an undefined reference error(might it have something to do with the fact that glut.a is in /lib/w32api). I promise to quit posting if this turns out to be another simple mistake on my part. "Gerald Pekmezi" wrote in message news:... > I am trying to build a finite element program from source. All goes > well until I get the following error message: > > gcc -O2 -Wall -I./ -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -c -o > setFunktions.o setFunktions.c > cc1: warning: changing search order for system directory > "/usr/include" > cc1: warning: as it has already been specified as a non-system directory > setFunktions.c: In function `drawNurl_plot': > setFunktions.c:1286: `GLU_ERROR' undeclared (first use in this function) > setFunktions.c:1286: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > setFunktions.c:1286: for each function it appears in.) > setFunktions.c:1286: warning: passing arg 3 of `gluNurbsCallback' from > incompatible pointer type > setFunktions.c: In function `drawNurs_plot': > setFunktions.c:1353: `GLU_ERROR' undeclared (first use in this function) > setFunktions.c:1353: warning: passing arg 3 of `gluNurbsCallback' from > incompatible pointer type > setFunktions.c: In function `senddata': > setFunktions.c:5985: warning: passing arg 4 of `qsort' from incompatible > pointer type > setFunktions.c:6054: warning: passing arg 4 of `qsort' from incompatible > pointer type > make: *** [setFunktions.o] Error 1 > > I can see where GLU_ERROR is defined in /usr/X11R6/include/GL/glu.h so > I don't understand the reason for the error. Thanks in advance for any > help > > > > From ford@vss.fsi.com Wed Apr 2 22:08:00 2003 From: ford@vss.fsi.com (Brian Ford) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 22:08:00 -0000 Subject: What package is GLX OpenGL from? Message-ID: On Wed, 02 Apr 2003, Randall R Schulz wrote: > But in keeping with my policy of not taunting or scolding without > including a constructive answer, go here: . > For best results, use as much as you know about the name. The search is > a non-anchored grep pattern match against the package content lists. File > suffixes can help, but beware that some standard command names are > symlinks or scripts, so a ".exe" suffix will not be present in those > cases. > For the record, I had already visited that page several times and searched for: opengl OpenGL /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a and probably others in addition to searching the mailing list archives for the specific question and the generic question. All were previously to no avail. Given the additional information about the way the search engine works, I found it by searching for just libGL. Thank you VERY much. Seriously! Begin rant... If everyone would support your policy and give users a little bit of credit, the Cygwin community would be much better off, IMO. It is always difficult for me to determine just how much time to rumage around looking for something before asking a seemingly FAQ like question. Given this lists normal attitude, I try very hard to find the answer myself. But sometimes, a tip toward the right key is just what one needs to avoid wasting everyone's time. End rant... >> At 11:05 2003-04-02, you wrote: >> >> My appologies if this is a FAQ, but I haven't found the answer to this, >> or the more generic question: "How do I determine what package file x >> came from?" >> >> Help with either is greatly appreciated. Thanks. >> -- Brian Ford Senior Realtime Software Engineer VITAL - Visual Simulation Systems FlightSafety International Phone: 314-551-8460 Fax: 314-551-8444 From ford@vss.fsi.com Wed Apr 2 22:17:00 2003 From: ford@vss.fsi.com (Brian Ford) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 22:17:00 -0000 Subject: Need help with a glu problem Message-ID: On Wed, 02 Apr 2003, Gary Pekmezi wrote: > might it have something to do with the fact that glut.a is in > /lib/w32api > Bingo! There is currently no libglut supplied for use with X. I am working in my spare time to change that, but don't hold your breath. Recap: For X: -I /usr/X11R6/include -L /usr/X11R6/lib -lGLU -lGL For native: -lgluix -lglui -lglut32 -lglu32 -lopengl32 and see /usr/doc/opengl-1.1.0/README -- Brian Ford Senior Realtime Software Engineer VITAL - Visual Simulation Systems FlightSafety International Phone: 314-551-8460 Fax: 314-551-8444 From qwarlock@qwarlock.com Thu Apr 3 01:31:00 2003 From: qwarlock@qwarlock.com (Steve Z) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 01:31:00 -0000 Subject: Problem with xdm on cygwin ManageSession dies... Message-ID: <001c01c2f97f$8522ac00$05000006@domain> To Cygwin, I have been using cygwin for a while and I think this is a great tool. I installed KDE on my XP box and it works great and adds a lot. KDE only works on the XP and 2K boxes. Not on any of my 98 boxes. I have been experimenting with xdm however and I am running into some problems. XDM needs su to work in order to function. sincesu was removed this becomes a problem. Is there any work around that can be used for the lack of su? Is there a version of su that is out that I can download somewhere? Is there some patch that can help with this? Another problem I noticed is that when xdm launches it tries to write the Magic Cookie in the form of A:200....as a file name. This is not allowed in either XP or 98 therefore this process fails. Is there any work around for this part? Lastly the result of these errors is that when xdm gets to ManageSession :0 it errors out and starts the process over again. It will just loop through this process on a 98 box. Where on the XP boxes it stops. Interestingly when I do a X -indirect on another box I can see the XP xdm box. (I can never see the 98 boxes) What I want to do is get X and xdm up on all my systems. This way I can control the Windows boxes and linux boxes all from a single terminal the same no matter what operating system I am on. I would apprecialte any help or hints to get to this point. It has been fun trying to figure it out so far but I think I need some help from the experts. Thanks very much for your attention. from steveZ From competition@katamail.com Thu Apr 3 08:52:00 2003 From: competition@katamail.com (competition) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 08:52:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard non-US References: Message-ID: <003c01c2f9be$37ffd210$39218882@io> >I've not received information what windows reports >> for itali keyboards and have not added it. what information you need? regards Max From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Apr 3 11:30:00 2003 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 11:30:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard non-US In-Reply-To: <003c01c2f9be$37ffd210$39218882@io> Message-ID: On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, competition wrote: > > >I've not received information what windows reports > >> for itali keyboards and have not added it. > > what information you need? Just get a program from http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/keyboard.tar.gz and run it. It should print the KeyboardType and a layoutcode. Just send me this output and the xkb keymap you are using for this keyboard (it was "it"?) bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From d.bennett@themunicenter.com Thu Apr 3 14:51:00 2003 From: d.bennett@themunicenter.com (Derek Bennett) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 14:51:00 -0000 Subject: XWin -clipboard and xwinclip bad highlighting behavior Message-ID: I have observed that highlighting with either xwipclip running or Xwin running with the -clipboard switch, vanishes directly after completing a selection. The copy to the X and Windows clipboards happens just fine. However, I would prefer the highlighting to remain until the next mouse click as it does on other X servers. I read in an earlier thread that the vanishing highlighting is expected and normal behavior. I would like to have that behavior changed so that it is at least configurable. I wouldn't mind doing it myself. If this "problem" is already being addressed, please tell me so. Otherwise, please tell me how to get started addressing it; I don't mind doing the work myself. From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Apr 3 15:01:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 15:01:00 -0000 Subject: XWin -clipboard and xwinclip bad highlighting behavior In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E8C4CBE.5010705@msu.edu> Derek, Yes, we know. This is not an easy problem, search the mailing list archives for more details. No one is working on this problem at the moment and we appreciate your offer to help. You might be interested in the XFIXES extension, which almost made it into the XFree86 4.3.0 release but was pulled. It included a mechanism to notify clients when the clipboard contents changed. We can either use this extension to get notification, or we can insert our own hooks into the portion of the X Server that handles the clipboard. Either way, I am beginning to think that providing clipboard integration via an X Client is not the correct way to address this problem. Ask any questions on the list, I will be glad to assist where I can. Harold Derek Bennett wrote: > I have observed that highlighting with either xwipclip running or Xwin > running with the -clipboard switch, vanishes directly after completing a > selection. The copy to the X and Windows clipboards happens just fine. > However, I would prefer the highlighting to remain until the next mouse > click as it does on other X servers. I read in an earlier thread that > the vanishing highlighting is expected and normal behavior. I would like > to have that behavior changed so that it is at least configurable. I > wouldn't mind doing it myself. If this "problem" is already being > addressed, please tell me so. Otherwise, please tell me how to get > started addressing it; I don't mind doing the work myself. From mark@srl-sdl.org Thu Apr 3 15:29:00 2003 From: mark@srl-sdl.org (Mark P. Esplin) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 15:29:00 -0000 Subject: What package is GLX OpenGL from? In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030402123558.028a16d0@pop3.cris.com> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030402123558.028a16d0@pop3.cris.com> Message-ID: <200304031031.28636.mark@srl-sdl.org> A nice addition to cygwin setup.exe would be a search capability for packages and files like is in the KDE package manager KPackage. As the number of packages increases it becomes harder and harder to find what you are looking for. -Mark Esplin On Wednesday 02 April 2003 03:51 pm, Randall R Schulz wrote: > Hi, Everybody! > > (with a Dr. Nick Riviera intonation) > > > With the Monty Python "Spam" song intonation: > > FAQ, FAQ, FAQ, FAQ > FAQ, FAQ, FAQ, FAQ > > > But in keeping with my policy of not taunting or scolding without > including a constructive answer, go here: > . For best results, use as much as you > know about the name. The search is a non-anchored grep pattern match > against the package content lists. File suffixes can help, but beware > that some standard command names are symlinks or scripts, so a ".exe" > suffix will not be present in those cases. From antonv@postikaista.net Thu Apr 3 15:30:00 2003 From: antonv@postikaista.net (Anton Vaaranmaa) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 15:30:00 -0000 Subject: Attn. Karl: multiwindow and rootless Message-ID: <200304041830.35769.antonv@postikaista.net> Karl, I accidentally deleted your messages so I write to the list instead. You mentioned that you have trouble with rootless and multiwindow. IIRC the trick is that you can't use both at the same time. Multiwindow is sort of rootless so you probably want to use that instead of rootless. Then you mentioned that you have no window decorations and can't move windows. That indicates that there is no window manager running. You should intitialize a window manager in any situation except for when using the "-multiwindow" option (multiwindow has it's own built-in window manager). I hope this information is correct, but I could be wrong too. I have not played with Cygwin/Xfree for a while... -- Anton From cygx@cilux.org Thu Apr 3 16:01:00 2003 From: cygx@cilux.org (Duncan Cragg) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 16:01:00 -0000 Subject: Duplicate Keystrokes - Again! Message-ID: <3E8C5A8F.50100@cilux.org> Hello - I've just arrived at this list, so hope I don't break protocol in any way!! I have a problem which can be summarised as 'it's the same as the following past postings': http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=+site:www.cygwin.com+xfree86+duplicate+keystrokes The discussions there mentioned the infrequency of the problem of duplicate keystrokes for the respondents - a couple of times a day. I, however, am getting this problem all the time: as in, every five commands or so, or every five edit keystrokes....!!!! Am I alone? Am I doing something odd? This happens on both my work and home installations (work is 1G, home is 500M laptop; home has VNC running which I can see would make this worse, but work is not overloaded). Both installations are out-of-the-box, running twm. I can supply more details (.Xmodmap, .twmrc, .Xdefaults, etc.) if someone thinks it's relevant. Any help appreciated! Duncan Cragg From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Thu Apr 3 16:12:00 2003 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 16:12:00 -0000 Subject: What package is GLX OpenGL from? In-Reply-To: <200304031031.28636.mark@srl-sdl.org> Message-ID: Mark, As always, patches are thoughtfully considered (eventually). However, this may not be as easy as you think, since the package tarballs themselves aren't downloaded until they are selected by the user in setup. So, that external search page at is there for a reason... Igor On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Mark P. Esplin wrote: > A nice addition to cygwin setup.exe would be a search capability for packages > and files like is in the KDE package manager KPackage. As the number of > packages increases it becomes harder and harder to find what you are looking > for. > -Mark Esplin > > On Wednesday 02 April 2003 03:51 pm, Randall R Schulz wrote: > > Hi, Everybody! > > > > (with a Dr. Nick Riviera intonation) > > > > With the Monty Python "Spam" song intonation: > > > > FAQ, FAQ, FAQ, FAQ > > FAQ, FAQ, FAQ, FAQ > > > > But in keeping with my policy of not taunting or scolding without > > including a constructive answer, go here: > > . For best results, use as much as you > > know about the name. The search is a non-anchored grep pattern match > > against the package content lists. File suffixes can help, but beware > > that some standard command names are symlinks or scripts, so a ".exe" > > suffix will not be present in those cases. -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty. -- Leto II From bijumaillist@yahoo.com Thu Apr 3 17:40:00 2003 From: bijumaillist@yahoo.com (Biju G C) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 17:40:00 -0000 Subject: making X server a COM object.. In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20030403022102.00a4dec0@pop.softhome.net> Message-ID: <20030403174032.67564.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> Chan Kar Heng, WindowMaker, openbox, fvwm2 works fine in with weirdx and wierdx.net only problem I am facing is, Unable to do XForwarding from wierdmind and unable to contact author. Pl. try to contact them at Jcraft.... at info@jcraft.com, support@wiredx.net, feedback@wiredx.net they may be happy to help you. or u may also be able to contact users see http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/index.html if u r able to make progress, please inform me about it. cheers Biju --- Chan Kar Heng wrote: > > :) > > thanks... i've already tried weirdx out (as i've mentioned > when i first posted this question.) > it doesn't completely support X yet... > tried running several window managers on it and some > didn't function properly... > tried some games on it too.. same prob. > > but my main issue with weirdx is a lack of support for > GLX.... > > i'm hunting for an applet or a COM object that can be > embedded into a web page that in turn, can be placed > into a web browser... > it can be a little bit heavy for now.. but ultimately, > it has to be light weight, or require minimal installation. > > > rgds, > > kh > > > > > >I dont know what is actual requirement. If you looking to get some sort of activex control > which > >can be embedded in a VB Program. Then try WeirdX java version of XWin. And may be u can get > >documentation for calling javabean from VB at sun java site. > > > >Links:- > >http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/index.html > >http://java.sun.com/j2se/vb.development.center.html > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com From karheng@softhome.net Thu Apr 3 19:26:00 2003 From: karheng@softhome.net (Chan Kar Heng) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 19:26:00 -0000 Subject: making X server a COM object.. In-Reply-To: <20030403174032.67564.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.1.0.14.1.20030403022102.00a4dec0@pop.softhome.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20030404032014.00a4b8d0@pop.softhome.net> >WindowMaker, openbox, fvwm2 works fine in with weirdx and wierdx.net i c... thanks... i tried icewm.. some of the things didn't work out. >only problem I am facing is, Unable to do XForwarding from wierdmind >and unable to contact author. <------ wow.. big problem... >Pl. try to contact them at Jcraft.... >at info@jcraft.com, support@wiredx.net, feedback@wiredx.net >they may be happy to help you. > >or u may also be able to contact users >see http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/index.html > >if u r able to make progress, please inform me about it. okay, sure... i note that their last release was 2001... hmmm... not very active... anyway, i'm comparing the effort required for adding GLX into weirdx and trying to make xfree an activex.. rgds, kh From karheng@softhome.net Thu Apr 3 19:26:00 2003 From: karheng@softhome.net (Chan Kar Heng) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 19:26:00 -0000 Subject: making X server a COM object.. In-Reply-To: <3E8B4C21.8080505@sjsoft.com> References: <5.1.0.14.1.20030403022545.00a4ab30@pop.softhome.net> <5.1.0.14.1.20030402042200.00a3fa40@pop.softhome.net> <3E88D455.8030900@msu.edu> <5.1.0.14.1.20030331225300.00a0c030@pop.softhome.net> <5.1.0.14.1.20030331225300.00a0c030@pop.softhome.net> <5.1.0.14.1.20030402042200.00a3fa40@pop.softhome.net> <5.1.0.14.1.20030403022545.00a4ab30@pop.softhome.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20030404030010.00a60070@pop.softhome.net> >I think you should describe exactly why you want to put XFree86 in a COM object, for what purpose, what you would use it for etc. I presume you mean you want to make it an ActiveX control, is this true? actually yes, thanks for the more correct term.. an ActiveX control. :) as described in another mail i posted here: > i'm hunting for an applet or a COM object that can be > embedded into a web page that in turn, can be placed > into a web browser... > it can be a little bit heavy for now.. but ultimately, > it has to be light weight, or require minimal installation. > in addtion, this applet or ActiveX control should support GLX or something similar... (GL across network). as of now, i have an entire 3D app built as an ActiveX control (which is rather big and a rather stupid thing.. it's easily larger than 8mb). i want to remove the bulk of the 3D engine now and make it some kind of server process... the client process is an app on a machine that displays 3D graphics rendered by the 3D engine... the client and the server runs on different machines. From karheng@softhome.net Thu Apr 3 19:26:00 2003 From: karheng@softhome.net (Chan Kar Heng) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 19:26:00 -0000 Subject: making X server a COM object.. In-Reply-To: <3E8B51E0.1050202@msu.edu> References: <5.1.0.14.1.20030403022545.00a4ab30@pop.softhome.net> <5.1.0.14.1.20030402042200.00a3fa40@pop.softhome.net> <3E88D455.8030900@msu.edu> <5.1.0.14.1.20030331225300.00a0c030@pop.softhome.net> <5.1.0.14.1.20030331225300.00a0c030@pop.softhome.net> <5.1.0.14.1.20030402042200.00a3fa40@pop.softhome.net> <5.1.0.14.1.20030403022545.00a4ab30@pop.softhome.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20030404031026.00a60540@pop.softhome.net> >KH, > >What is am saying is that COM, by itself, is something you have to sit down with for a few months before you even realize if what you are suggesting is possible. No amount of pointers from other people are going to help. > >Similarly, X is something that you have to sit down with for a few months before you can determine if such things are possible. actually, i have in fact spent a couple of months on COM by itself... on reading and on programming... i have to admit that i've only done some of the simpler parts of COM (the simpler parts aren't really simple either), but enough to write some stuff or go further on. i have an entire 3D application built as an ActiveX control for now... and it's really bulky. otherwise, the area really gray to me is XFree86... my intention is really just to "host" cygwin xfree in the "sandbox" of an ActiveX control... thus: - it's just hopefully 1 simple thin ActiveX control wrapping around cygwin and xfree stuff. - the ActiveX control doesn't need to deal with unnecessary OLE stuff. - hopefully won't need to worry about marshalling and threading/apartment models >We can talk about threading, ATL, etc... but it won't matter until you are presenting a coherent framework (which would take about 20 pages to describe). At that point, feel free to ask, "what did I forget?". Understand though that asking us "will this work" is too open-ended of a question. We just can't spend time on your question until you demonstrate that you have spent a lot of time with it already. hmmm.. okay.. fair enough.. :) i'm just asking opinions and comments. one gets nothing for nothing... no obligations. guess i'll just have to break down the problem and try things out on my own then. thanks... rgds, kh From JDrash@eesus.jnj.com Thu Apr 3 20:33:00 2003 From: JDrash@eesus.jnj.com (Jim Drash) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 20:33:00 -0000 Subject: Multiwindow: way cool! Message-ID: Maybe this is late but I only just tried multiwindow mode today. You all rock! This is extremely cool. Kudos to all that worked on this! jim drash From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Apr 3 20:55:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 20:55:00 -0000 Subject: Multiwindow: way cool! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E8C9FD7.6090108@msu.edu> Jim, Thanks. MultiWindow mode was created by Kensuke Matsuzaki. He has a donations page if you can spare a few bucks in gratitude: http://peppermint.jp/donation.html There is also a link to his donations page on the Cygwin/XFree86 Donations page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/donations.html Thanks for using the Cygwin/XFree86 project, Harold Jim Drash wrote: > Maybe this is late but I only just tried multiwindow mode today. You all > rock! This is extremely cool. > > Kudos to all that worked on this! > > jim drash From abraverman@itms.com Thu Apr 3 21:13:00 2003 From: abraverman@itms.com (Andrew Braverman) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 21:13:00 -0000 Subject: XWin -clipboard and xwinclip bad highlighting behavior In-Reply-To: <3E8C4CBE.5010705@msu.edu> Message-ID: <000c01c2fa25$d8ae9810$1e54cea7@andrew> The one other thing that I notice that I think is related to this is that in some applications (the one I see it in is ddd when compiled with lesstif), the selection does not even hold long enough to select it. If I click and drag (while still holding down the mouse button) the selection disappears. If I try to paste, my buffer has been deleted. I also have a related problem when I want to get a menu relating to an area that is larger than the default area. Normally, I would select the larger area and click (or right click) on it to get the appropriate menu. I can never do that. Does anyone have any ideas? > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:01 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: XWin -clipboard and xwinclip bad highlighting behavior > > > Derek, > > Yes, we know. > > This is not an easy problem, search the mailing list archives > for more > details. > > No one is working on this problem at the moment and we > appreciate your > offer to help. You might be interested in the XFIXES > extension, which > almost made it into the XFree86 4.3.0 release but was pulled. It > included a mechanism to notify clients when the clipboard contents > changed. We can either use this extension to get notification, or we > can insert our own hooks into the portion of the X Server > that handles > the clipboard. Either way, I am beginning to think that providing > clipboard integration via an X Client is not the correct way > to address > this problem. > > Ask any questions on the list, I will be glad to assist where I can. > > Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Apr 3 21:16:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 21:16:00 -0000 Subject: XWin -clipboard and xwinclip bad highlighting behavior In-Reply-To: <000c01c2fa25$d8ae9810$1e54cea7@andrew> References: <000c01c2fa25$d8ae9810$1e54cea7@andrew> Message-ID: <3E8CA4BA.8020105@msu.edu> Andrew, This issue has been beat to death in the mailing list archives since xwinclip was first released. It is not possible to fix xwinclip without a server extension or without modifying the server code directly to support an integrated clipboard system. Search the archives if you are interested. Harold Andrew Braverman wrote: > The one other thing that I notice that I think is related to this is that in > some applications (the one I see it in is ddd when compiled with lesstif), > the selection does not even hold long enough to select it. If I click and > drag (while still holding down the mouse button) the selection disappears. > If I try to paste, my buffer has been deleted. I also have a related > problem when I want to get a menu relating to an area that is larger than > the default area. Normally, I would select the larger area and click (or > right click) on it to get the appropriate menu. I can never do that. Does > anyone have any ideas? > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] >>Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:01 AM >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>Subject: Re: XWin -clipboard and xwinclip bad highlighting behavior >> >> >>Derek, >> >>Yes, we know. >> >>This is not an easy problem, search the mailing list archives >>for more >>details. >> >>No one is working on this problem at the moment and we >>appreciate your >>offer to help. You might be interested in the XFIXES >>extension, which >>almost made it into the XFree86 4.3.0 release but was pulled. It >>included a mechanism to notify clients when the clipboard contents >>changed. We can either use this extension to get notification, or we >>can insert our own hooks into the portion of the X Server >>that handles >>the clipboard. Either way, I am beginning to think that providing >>clipboard integration via an X Client is not the correct way >>to address >>this problem. >> >>Ask any questions on the list, I will be glad to assist where I can. >> >>Harold > > From ecognito1@earthcorp.com Fri Apr 4 00:12:00 2003 From: ecognito1@earthcorp.com (E) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 00:12:00 -0000 Subject: Multiwindow: way cool! References: <3E8C9FD7.6090108@msu.edu> Message-ID: Just wondering, is multiwindow considered stable now? If so, I missed the posting that says so. Thanks. E. From cnst@rbcmail.ru Fri Apr 4 03:24:00 2003 From: cnst@rbcmail.ru (Constantine) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 03:24:00 -0000 Subject: Need some help on running the server on cygwin, and clients on FreeBSD. Message-ID: <3E8CFAD5.70608@rbcmail.ru> Hello! I am trying to run the X server on my cygwin machine, and the clients on my FreeBSD 4.7 box. As of today, to start the session I need to: 1. type "startx" 2. type "xhost + 192.168.0.18" 3. right-click, exit. 4. open ssh session, set display to 192.168.0.1, and run startkde. I do believe that this is a very complicated steps to follow, and I would highly appreciate if someone could explain, how could I set up the system to follow all these steps automatically. A bit of the reference material I was trying to follow: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html http://www.xfree86.org/current/Xserver.1.html#sect6 http://www.xfree86.org/current/xdm.1.html http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth.html On both Cygwin (192.168.0.1) and FreeBSD (192.168.0.18) I use XFree86 4.2.0 (165). Thank you. Constantine. From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Apr 4 03:44:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 03:44:00 -0000 Subject: Need some help on running the server on cygwin, and clients on FreeBSD. In-Reply-To: <3E8CFAD5.70608@rbcmail.ru> References: <3E8CFAD5.70608@rbcmail.ru> Message-ID: <3E8CFF96.4040203@msu.edu> Constantine, You are accidentally trying to combine the steps of the two independent connection methods: 1) telnet 2) ssh Since you have ssh setup, I suggest that you use ssh to tunnel your X connections, with the following command line: ssh -X username@remote_hostname_or_ip_address You shouldn't need to run xhost. If you run 'ssh' within an xterm in Cygwin/XFree86 you shouldn't need to set the DISPLAY variable at all since it will aleady be set. So, the steps to reproduce would be: 1) Using the standard startxwin.bat, launch Cygwin/XFree86 and an xterm (should happen automatically in the standard startxwin.bat) 2) In the xterm, login to your remote machine with X tunnelling enabled. You enable X tunnelling using the -X parameter (it has to be a BIG X, not a little x): ssh -X username@remote_hostname_or_ip_address 3) Launch your X apps and they should appear in Cygwin/XFree86. You may have to enable X tunnelling for ssh on your BSD machine... but you can do a general Google search for how to do that. Good luck, Harold Constantine wrote: > Hello! > > I am trying to run the X server on my cygwin machine, and the clients on > my FreeBSD 4.7 box. As of today, to start the session I need to: > 1. type "startx" > 2. type "xhost + 192.168.0.18" > 3. right-click, exit. > 4. open ssh session, set display to 192.168.0.1, and run startkde. > > I do believe that this is a very complicated steps to follow, and I > would highly appreciate if someone could explain, how could I set up the > system to follow all these steps automatically. > > A bit of the reference material I was trying to follow: > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html > http://www.xfree86.org/current/Xserver.1.html#sect6 > http://www.xfree86.org/current/xdm.1.html > http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth.html > > On both Cygwin (192.168.0.1) and FreeBSD (192.168.0.18) I use XFree86 > 4.2.0 (165). > > Thank you. > Constantine. From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Apr 4 03:47:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 03:47:00 -0000 Subject: Attn. Karl: multiwindow and rootless In-Reply-To: <200304041830.35769.antonv@postikaista.net> References: <200304041830.35769.antonv@postikaista.net> Message-ID: <3E8D002D.5010902@msu.edu> Anton, You hit the nail on the head (your description is correct). Thanks for helping out, Harold Anton Vaaranmaa wrote: > Karl, > > I accidentally deleted your messages so I write to the list instead. You > mentioned that you have trouble with rootless and multiwindow. IIRC the trick > is that you can't use both at the same time. Multiwindow is sort of rootless > so you probably want to use that instead of rootless. > > Then you mentioned that you have no window decorations and can't move windows. > That indicates that there is no window manager running. You should > intitialize a window manager in any situation except for when using the > "-multiwindow" option (multiwindow has it's own built-in window manager). > > I hope this information is correct, but I could be wrong too. I have not > played with Cygwin/Xfree for a while... > From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Apr 4 09:42:00 2003 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 09:42:00 -0000 Subject: making X server a COM object.. In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20030404032014.00a4b8d0@pop.softhome.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Chan Kar Heng wrote: > anyway, i'm comparing the effort required for adding GLX into > weirdx and trying to make xfree an activex.. cygwin/XFree has no 3d acceleration. From rppass@rppass.com Fri Apr 4 17:10:00 2003 From: rppass@rppass.com (Ralph P. Pass III) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 17:10:00 -0000 Subject: CYGWIN and XFREE Message-ID: <3E8DBC7A.4010108@rppass.com> I am new to this. I have gotten 4.1.3 Cygwin and have installed everything I then got OpenDX and installed it. When I run dx I get an error message that it cannot find cygXpm-X4.dll. I do not have this dll on my computer and wondered how or where to get this. My interpretation of this is that this is a dll provided for the cygwin system and is related to X, which is why I posted this request here. Thanks, Ralph From Vince.Hoffman@uk.circle.com Fri Apr 4 17:18:00 2003 From: Vince.Hoffman@uk.circle.com (Vince Hoffman) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 17:18:00 -0000 Subject: CYGWIN and XFREE Message-ID: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA37955014BDA0C@EX-LONDON> hmm the cygwin package search at http://www.cygwin.com/packages/ seems to think its in the package "X11 pixmap library" try installing/reinstalling that. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ralph P. Pass III [mailto:rppass@rppass.com] > Sent: 04 April 2003 18:10 > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: CYGWIN and XFREE > > > I am new to this. I have gotten 4.1.3 Cygwin and have > installed everything > > I then got OpenDX and installed it. When I run dx I get an error > message that it cannot find cygXpm-X4.dll. I do not have > this dll on > my computer and wondered how or where to get this. > > My interpretation of this is that this is a dll provided for > the cygwin > system and is related to X, which is why I posted this request here. > > > > Thanks, > Ralph > > From electabuzz@katamail.com Fri Apr 4 17:21:00 2003 From: electabuzz@katamail.com (kaio) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 17:21:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard non-US References: <003c01c2f9be$37ffd210$39218882@io> Message-ID: KeyboardType: 4: IBM enhanced (101- or 102-key) keyboard KeyboardLayout: 00000410 (i'm using a notebook, acer aspire 1302xc) what is xkb keymap? italian code is IT. "Alexander Gottwald" ha scritto nel messaggio news:Pine.LNX.4.44.0304031326320.5073-100000@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de... > On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, competition wrote: > > > > > >I've not received information what windows reports > > >> for itali keyboards and have not added it. > > > > what information you need? > > Just get a program from http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/keyboard.tar.gz > and run it. It should print the KeyboardType and a layoutcode. Just send me > this output and the xkb keymap you are using for this keyboard (it was "it"?) > > bye > ago > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > > From whitedavida@hotmail.com Fri Apr 4 17:46:00 2003 From: whitedavida@hotmail.com (David White) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 17:46:00 -0000 Subject: Remote Graphical Acesss to SuSE from XP Message-ID: Sirs, I am attempting to access my SuSE 8.1 machine from WinXP by way of CygWin/XFree86 without success. I am able to access the Linux machine with SSH through a standard terminal window though. Unfortunately I am new to Linux, so I am going at this half blind. I have visited the message archives and have tried several suggested listed there, but I still have problems. My setup: (one network card each) Linux Machine: SuSE 8.1 running KDE 3.0 desktop all xfree86 packages installed IP 192.168.0.5 WinXP Machine: CygWin with all xfree86 and KDE2.2.2 packages installed IP 192.168.0.7 I start CygWin through the standard cygwin.bat file from installation. From the terminal window I can connect to 192.168.0.5 through TelNet or SSH to change the DISPLAY variable. In my attempts I have set DISPLAY to both 192.168.0.7:0.0 and 127.0.0.1:0.0. After I logout, I attempt set XHOST with XHOST +192.168.0.7. I get an error message; it is the only response I am ever able to get from XHOST with any IP address or host name entry. The error message is: xhost: unable to open display???? If I run xstart or xwin, a blank graphics window comes up with the X mouse cursor, etc, without an image. I have tried to setup different display variables in startxwin.bat, startxwin.sh, cygwin.bat and others without any change. The one interesting thing is that from a terminal window with in Xwin window I can type XHOST 192.168.0.5 and get an response saying that the address has been added. Still there is not any change in that Xwin window or any other one that is started from that terminal screen. I have followed all instructions I could find on the Internet about installation for CygWin and the KDE2.2.2 package (http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/kde2/installation.php). Now I am at a loss. If someone could please offer ANY suggestions, it will be most appreciated!! Thank you for your time. David White whitedavida@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From andrew.markebo@telia.com Fri Apr 4 17:57:00 2003 From: andrew.markebo@telia.com (Andrew Markebo) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 17:57:00 -0000 Subject: Remote Graphical Acesss to SuSE from XP References: Message-ID: I don't see that you have started X? Meanwhile step by step.. getting an xterm.. | I start CygWin through the standard cygwin.bat file from installation. After starting cygwin.bat, type startxwin.sh in the shell-window.. | From the terminal window I can connect to 192.168.0.5 through TelNet | or SSH to change the DISPLAY variable. In my attempts I have set | DISPLAY to both 192.168.0.7:0.0 and 127.0.0.1:0.0. >From the window opened in the X-window, do "ssh -X 192.168.0.5" and there, do "echo $DISPLAY" (let ssh set the DISPLAY for you), if you get a value like 192.168.0.7:0.0 it should be working, here fire up a xterm. /Andy -- The eye of the linker rests on the libs! From rppass@rppass.com Fri Apr 4 19:45:00 2003 From: rppass@rppass.com (Ralph P. Pass III) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 19:45:00 -0000 Subject: CYGWIN and XFREE References: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA37955014BDA0C@EX-LONDON> Message-ID: <3E8DE0B6.5040603@rppass.com> Thanks, I went back and installed all the components and the dll showed up. I did not see it the first ouple of times through and when I did finally click on view I must have missed it. This cleared the problem. Thanks for the help Ralph Vince Hoffman wrote: >hmm the cygwin package search at http://www.cygwin.com/packages/ seems to >think its in the package "X11 pixmap library" try installing/reinstalling >that. > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Ralph P. Pass III [mailto:rppass@rppass.com] >>Sent: 04 April 2003 18:10 >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>Subject: CYGWIN and XFREE >> >> >>I am new to this. I have gotten 4.1.3 Cygwin and have >>installed everything >> >>I then got OpenDX and installed it. When I run dx I get an error >>message that it cannot find cygXpm-X4.dll. I do not have >>this dll on >>my computer and wondered how or where to get this. >> >>My interpretation of this is that this is a dll provided for >>the cygwin >>system and is related to X, which is why I posted this request here. >> >> >> >>Thanks, >>Ralph >> >> >> >> From ford@vss.fsi.com Fri Apr 4 20:28:00 2003 From: ford@vss.fsi.com (Brian Ford) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 20:28:00 -0000 Subject: generic rootless and multiwindow Message-ID: Saw this message on the Xfree86 devel mailing list and wondered if the multiwindow GURU's were aware: http://www.mail-archive.com/devel@xfree86.org/msg01372.html BTW, is Cygwin Xfree86 headed for 4.3.0 soon? -- Brian Ford Senior Realtime Software Engineer VITAL - Visual Simulation Systems FlightSafety International Phone: 314-551-8460 Fax: 314-551-8444 From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Fri Apr 4 22:32:00 2003 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 22:32:00 -0000 Subject: Transparent terminal window? Message-ID: Hi, I'm running WindowMaker, and I was wondering; does anyone know how to get transparent terminal windows? Can you do it with stock Cygwin-XFree or do you have to download and compile a specific terminal emulator? Thanks in advance. From bijumaillist@yahoo.com Sat Apr 5 01:26:00 2003 From: bijumaillist@yahoo.com (Biju G C) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 01:26:00 -0000 Subject: Transparent terminal window? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030405012648.85803.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com> I have not seen any binary avialable on cygwin try to compile http://aterm.sourceforge.net/ for more screenshots http://xplanet.sourceforge.net/ cheers biju CyGNOME = Cygwin + GNOME http://cygnome.sourceforge.net/ --- Jean-Claude Gervais wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running WindowMaker, and I was wondering; does anyone know how to get > transparent terminal windows? > > Can you do it with stock Cygwin-XFree or do you have to download and > compile a specific terminal emulator? > > Thanks in advance. > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com From bijumaillist@yahoo.com Sat Apr 5 02:35:00 2003 From: bijumaillist@yahoo.com (Biju G C) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 02:35:00 -0000 Subject: making X server a COM object.. In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20030404032014.00a4b8d0@pop.softhome.net> Message-ID: <20030405023502.94008.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> KH, For GLX and OpenGL in java you can try Escher. home page http://escher.sourceforge.net/ docs http://escher.sourceforge.net/current/doc/index.html project page http://sourceforge.net/projects/escher/ downloads http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=9364 cheers biju --- Chan Kar Heng wrote: > > >WindowMaker, openbox, fvwm2 works fine in with weirdx and wierdx.net > i c... thanks... > i tried icewm.. some of the things didn't work out. > > > >only problem I am facing is, Unable to do XForwarding from wierdmind > >and unable to contact author. <------ wow.. big problem... > > > >Pl. try to contact them at Jcraft.... > >at info@jcraft.com, support@wiredx.net, feedback@wiredx.net > >they may be happy to help you. > > > >or u may also be able to contact users > >see http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/index.html > > > >if u r able to make progress, please inform me about it. > > okay, sure... > > i note that their last release was 2001... hmmm... > not very active... > > anyway, i'm comparing the effort required for adding GLX into > weirdx and trying to make xfree an activex.. > > rgds, > > kh > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com From simond@pobox.com Sat Apr 5 04:14:00 2003 From: simond@pobox.com (Simon Dong) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 04:14:00 -0000 Subject: Transparent terminal window? References: <20030405012648.85803.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <046401c2fb29$ae81faa0$460110ac@saab> Aterm doens't work properly on Cygwin/XFree86. It has a problem refreshing the screen. Whatever you type in will not be echoed until you move/resize the window. I got ETerm compile on Cygwin with transparent background. I couldn't get the background image to work (because I couldn't get imlib2 compiled with dll support, I think), but I really don't need it. I had to jump through a lot of hoops though, and didn't get the process documented. For what I can remember, I need to compile edb1.0.3 freetype-1.3.1 imlib2-1.0.6 And apply the kde patch to cygwin for shared mem support, which can be found at kde/cygwin's website. Then I can get Eterm built. -Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Biju G C" To: Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 5:26 PM Subject: Re: Transparent terminal window? > I have not seen any binary avialable on cygwin > try to compile > http://aterm.sourceforge.net/ > > for more screenshots > http://xplanet.sourceforge.net/ > > cheers > biju > CyGNOME = Cygwin + GNOME http://cygnome.sourceforge.net/ > --- Jean-Claude Gervais wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm running WindowMaker, and I was wondering; does anyone know how to get > > transparent terminal windows? > > > > Can you do it with stock Cygwin-XFree or do you have to download and > > compile a specific terminal emulator? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more > http://tax.yahoo.com > From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Sat Apr 5 12:01:00 2003 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 12:01:00 -0000 Subject: Transparent terminal window? In-Reply-To: <046401c2fb29$ae81faa0$460110ac@saab> Message-ID: Thanks Biju, Simon. Simon, you're right; ATerm builds easily on Cygwin, but it does have the display problem you mentioned. And on my system, with a very recent fresh install of Cygwin, it maxes out the CPU the second you start it. I haven't even tried to get it to display the transparent background though, have you? I will send a note to ATerm's author to tell him about the CPU bug. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Simon Dong Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 11:13 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Transparent terminal window? Aterm doens't work properly on Cygwin/XFree86. It has a problem refreshing the screen. Whatever you type in will not be echoed until you move/resize the window. I got ETerm compile on Cygwin with transparent background. I couldn't get the background image to work (because I couldn't get imlib2 compiled with dll support, I think), but I really don't need it. I had to jump through a lot of hoops though, and didn't get the process documented. For what I can remember, I need to compile edb1.0.3 freetype-1.3.1 imlib2-1.0.6 And apply the kde patch to cygwin for shared mem support, which can be found at kde/cygwin's website. Then I can get Eterm built. -Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Biju G C" To: Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 5:26 PM Subject: Re: Transparent terminal window? > I have not seen any binary avialable on cygwin > try to compile > http://aterm.sourceforge.net/ > > for more screenshots > http://xplanet.sourceforge.net/ > > cheers > biju > CyGNOME = Cygwin + GNOME http://cygnome.sourceforge.net/ > --- Jean-Claude Gervais wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm running WindowMaker, and I was wondering; does anyone know how to get > > transparent terminal windows? > > > > Can you do it with stock Cygwin-XFree or do you have to download and > > compile a specific terminal emulator? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more > http://tax.yahoo.com > From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Sat Apr 5 14:09:00 2003 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 14:09:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard non-US In-Reply-To: Message-ID: kaio wrote: I'll add the values to the list. > what is xkb keymap? I meant xkb layout. This is the code of the keyboard layout. And this is it for italy. bye ago NP: VNV Nation - Epicentre -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Sat Apr 5 14:15:00 2003 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 14:15:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard non-US In-Reply-To: Message-ID: kaio wrote: > KeyboardType: 4: IBM enhanced (101- or 102-key) keyboard > KeyboardLayout: 00000410 @Harold: can you apply this patch please? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- winconfig.ol Sat Apr 5 16:13:13 2003 +++ winconfig.c Sat Apr 5 16:11:23 2003 @@ -232,6 +232,7 @@ {0x40b, 4, "pc105", "fi", NULL, NULL, "Finnish"}, {0x40c, 4, "pc105", "fr", NULL, NULL, "French (Standard)"}, {0x80c, 4, "pc105", "be", NULL, NULL, "French (Belgian)"}, + {0x410, 4, "pc105", "it", NULL, NULL, "Italian"}, {0x41d, 4, "pc105", "se", NULL, NULL, "Swedish (Sweden)"}, {-1, -1, NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL} }; -------------------------------------------------------------------------- bye ago NP: VNV Nation - Epicentre -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From electabuzz@katamail.com Sat Apr 5 17:00:00 2003 From: electabuzz@katamail.com (kaio) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 17:00:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard non-US References: Message-ID: winconfig.c: where? > can you apply this patch please? > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- winconfig.ol Sat Apr 5 16:13:13 2003 > +++ winconfig.c Sat Apr 5 16:11:23 2003 > @@ -232,6 +232,7 @@ > {0x40b, 4, "pc105", "fi", NULL, NULL, "Finnish"}, > {0x40c, 4, "pc105", "fr", NULL, NULL, "French (Standard)"}, > {0x80c, 4, "pc105", "be", NULL, NULL, "French (Belgian)"}, > + {0x410, 4, "pc105", "it", NULL, NULL, "Italian"}, > {0x41d, 4, "pc105", "se", NULL, NULL, "Swedish (Sweden)"}, > {-1, -1, NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL} > }; > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From simond@pobox.com Sat Apr 5 18:37:00 2003 From: simond@pobox.com (Simon Dong) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 18:37:00 -0000 Subject: Transparent terminal window? References: Message-ID: <061401c2fba2$65280330$460110ac@saab> Turning on transparency in aterm is trivial and it worked well. I did experience the CPU problem as well, and the echo/refresh problem really made it unusable. -Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Claude Gervais" To: Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 4:00 AM Subject: RE: Transparent terminal window? > Thanks Biju, Simon. > > Simon, you're right; ATerm builds easily on Cygwin, but it does have the > display problem you mentioned. > And on my system, with a very recent fresh install of Cygwin, it maxes out > the CPU the second you start it. > > I haven't even tried to get it to display the transparent background > though, have you? > > I will send a note to ATerm's author to tell him about the CPU bug. > > Thanks > > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On > Behalf Of Simon Dong > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 11:13 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Transparent terminal window? > > > Aterm doens't work properly on Cygwin/XFree86. It has a problem refreshing > the screen. Whatever you type in will not be echoed until you move/resize > the window. > > I got ETerm compile on Cygwin with transparent background. I couldn't get > the background image to work (because I couldn't get imlib2 compiled with > dll support, I think), but I really don't need it. I had to jump through a > lot of hoops though, and didn't get the process documented. > > For what I can remember, I need to compile > > edb1.0.3 > freetype-1.3.1 > imlib2-1.0.6 > > And apply the kde patch to cygwin for shared mem support, which can be found > at kde/cygwin's website. > > Then I can get Eterm built. > > -Simon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Biju G C" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 5:26 PM > Subject: Re: Transparent terminal window? > > > > I have not seen any binary avialable on cygwin > > try to compile > > http://aterm.sourceforge.net/ > > > > for more screenshots > > http://xplanet.sourceforge.net/ > > > > cheers > > biju > > CyGNOME = Cygwin + GNOME http://cygnome.sourceforge.net/ > > --- Jean-Claude Gervais wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm running WindowMaker, and I was wondering; does anyone know how to > get > > > transparent terminal windows? > > > > > > Can you do it with stock Cygwin-XFree or do you have to download and > > > compile a specific terminal emulator? > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more > > http://tax.yahoo.com > > > From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Sat Apr 5 21:22:00 2003 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 21:22:00 -0000 Subject: Need some help on running the server on cygwin, and clients on FreeBSD. Message-ID: This thread might be of interest to you... http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-10/msg00091.html >From: Constantine >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: Need some help on running the server on cygwin, and clients on >FreeBSD. >Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 22:24:05 -0500 > >Hello! > >I am trying to run the X server on my cygwin machine, and the clients on my >FreeBSD 4.7 box. As of today, to start the session I need to: >1. type "startx" >2. type "xhost + 192.168.0.18" >3. right-click, exit. >4. open ssh session, set display to 192.168.0.1, and run startkde. > >I do believe that this is a very complicated steps to follow, and I would >highly appreciate if someone could explain, how could I set up the system >to follow all these steps automatically. > >A bit of the reference material I was trying to follow: >http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html >http://www.xfree86.org/current/Xserver.1.html#sect6 >http://www.xfree86.org/current/xdm.1.html >http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth.html > >On both Cygwin (192.168.0.1) and FreeBSD (192.168.0.18) I use XFree86 4.2.0 >(165). > >Thank you. >Constantine. > _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Sat Apr 5 23:20:00 2003 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 23:20:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard non-US In-Reply-To: Message-ID: kaio wrote: > winconfig.c: where? This was a messgae for Harold Hunt. You could apply this too, but this would require that you compile XWin yourself. If you just want the keyboard to be autodetected, just wait for the next test release. bye ago NP: VNV Nation - Structure -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From whitedavida@hotmail.com Sun Apr 6 01:43:00 2003 From: whitedavida@hotmail.com (David White) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 01:43:00 -0000 Subject: Remote Graphical Acesss to SuSE from XP Continued Message-ID: My great thanks to the quick reply to my message! I did have some success with the suggestion. However, I am still not able to view KDE running on my Linux server on my WinXP machine. Still, now have a new error message, but this is a good thing! It shows that Xfree86 is trying to get info from the server, which I was never able to confirm before. Same setup: WinXP 192.168.0.7 SuSE8.1 192.168.0.5 When I executed startxwin.sh, a new XFree86 window came up with the X cursor and a terminal window. From there I logged onto my linux machine (ssh -x 192.168.0.5) and echoed the display variable (echo $display). A blank line followed. Assuming that the variable was not set, I typed it in manually on the server and tried the process again. The following error was produced: Agent pid 1200 Xlib: connection to "192.168.0.5:0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified twm: unable to open display "192.168.0.5:0.0" Xlib: connection to "192.168.0.5:0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified xsetroot: unable to open display '192.168.0.5:0.0' My startxwin.bat file contains the following commands #! /bin/sh export DISPLAY=192.168.0.5:0.0 PATH=/usr/X11R6/bin:$PATH eval `ssh-agent` # Cleanup from last run. rm -rf /tmp/.X11-unix # Start the X Server. XWin -screen 0 1024 768 -noreset & # Start the twm window manager. twm & # Set a background color to hide that nasty X stipple. xsetroot -solid aquamarine4 # Start an xterm. xterm -n xterm-1 -j -ls -sb -sl 500 -rightbar -geometry +361+0 -e bash & # Return from sh. exit Any information that anyone would be willing to provide would be very helpful! I thank you for your support of this message list. David White whitedavida@hotmail.com --------------------------------------------- Reply: I don't see that you have started X? Meanwhile step by step.. getting an xterm.. | I start CygWin through the standard cygwin.bat file from installation. After starting cygwin.bat, type startxwin.sh in the shell-window.. | From the terminal window I can connect to 192.168.0.5 through TelNet | or SSH to change the DISPLAY variable. In my attempts I have set | DISPLAY to both 192.168.0.7:0.0 and 127.0.0.1:0.0. >From the window opened in the X-window, do "ssh -X 192.168.0.5" and there, do "echo $DISPLAY" (let ssh set the DISPLAY for you), if you get a value like 192.168.0.7:0.0 it should be working, here fire up a xterm. /Andy -- The eye of the linker rests on the libs! ----------------------------------------------------- Original Message: Sirs, I am attempting to access my SuSE 8.1 machine from WinXP by way of CygWin/XFree86 without success. I am able to access the Linux machine with SSH through a standard terminal window though. Unfortunately I am new to Linux, so I am going at this half blind. I have visited the message archives and have tried several suggested listed there, but I still have problems. My setup: (one network card each) Linux Machine: SuSE 8.1 running KDE 3.0 desktop all xfree86 packages installed IP 192.168.0.5 WinXP Machine: CygWin with all xfree86 and KDE2.2.2 packages installed IP 192.168.0.7 I start CygWin through the standard cygwin.bat file from installation. From the terminal window I can connect to 192.168.0.5 through TelNet or SSH to change the DISPLAY variable. In my attempts I have set DISPLAY to both 192.168.0.7:0.0 and 127.0.0.1:0.0. After I logout, I attempt set XHOST with XHOST +192.168.0.7. I get an error message; it is the only response I am ever able to get from XHOST with any IP address or host name entry. The error message is: xhost: unable to open display?? If I run xstart or xwin, a blank graphics window comes up with the X mouse cursor, etc, without an image. I have tried to setup different display variables in startxwin.bat, startxwin.sh, cygwin.bat and others without any change. The one interesting thing is that from a terminal window with in Xwin window I can type XHOST 192.168.0.5 and get an response saying that the address has been added. Still there is not any change in that Xwin window or any other one that is started from that terminal screen. I have followed all instructions I could find on the Internet about installation for CygWin and the KDE2.2.2 package (http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/kde2/installation.php). Now I am at a loss. If someone could please offer ANY suggestions, it will be most appreciated!! Thank you for your time. David White whitedavida at hotmail dot com _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From andrew.markebo@telia.com Sun Apr 6 05:35:00 2003 From: andrew.markebo@telia.com (Andrew Markebo) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 05:35:00 -0000 Subject: Remote Graphical Acesss to SuSE from XP Continued In-Reply-To: ("David White"'s message of "Sat, 05 Apr 2003 19:43:53 -0600") References: Message-ID: | When I executed startxwin.sh, a new XFree86 window came up with the X | cursor and a terminal window. From there I logged onto my linux | machine (ssh -x | 192.168.0.5) and echoed the display variable (echo $display). A blank ssh -X, capital X to be used.. include a -v switch also to see verbosely what is happening. Uhh checking your startxwin.bat.. you do: (hmm is it bat, not shell-script?) #! /bin/sh export DISPLAY=192.168.0.5:0.0 PATH=/usr/X11R6/bin:$PATH [...] Have you edited it?? I mean 192.168.0.5.. that is the linux machine? And DISPLAY shouldn't be set to that machine, it should point to the local machine.. Start clean, with an unedited startxwn, to get started. /Andy p.s. for starters to quickly get around -- The eye of the linker rests on the libs! From cygx@cilux.org Sun Apr 6 22:29:00 2003 From: cygx@cilux.org (Duncan Cragg) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 22:29:00 -0000 Subject: Duplicate Keystrokes - Again, Again! In-Reply-To: <3E8C5A8F.50100@cilux.org> References: <3E8C5A8F.50100@cilux.org> Message-ID: <3E90AEA7.1060802@cilux.org> Since there's been no response to this, I thought I'd add a little more detail in the hope of triggerring a reaction!!! See after this copy-paste of my original email: > Hello - I've just arrived at this list, so hope I don't break protocol > in any way!! > > I have a problem which can be summarised as 'it's the same as the > following past postings': > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=+site:www.cygwin.com+xfree86+duplicate+keystrokes > > The discussions there mentioned the infrequency of the problem of > duplicate keystrokes for the respondents - a couple of times a day. > > I, however, am getting this problem all the time: as in, every five > commands or so, or every five edit keystrokes....!!!! > > Am I alone? > > Am I doing something odd? > > This happens on both my work and home installations (work is 1G, home > is 500M laptop; home has VNC running which I can see would make this > worse, but work is not overloaded). Both installations are > out-of-the-box, running twm. I can supply more details (.Xmodmap, > .twmrc, .Xdefaults, etc.) if someone thinks it's relevant. > > Any help appreciated! > > > Duncan Cragg > So my work machine is NT and this problem only manifests when doing an ssh to one of my home machines and running up an editor. It's bad enough that it's intolerable for editing - repeated keystrokes occurring every 10 or so. At home it's much worse - this machine is running Windows 2000. Like I said, it's a 500Mhz and running VNC - but I've tried turning off some of the VNC checkboxes, without any improvement. VNC is only using a tiny bit of CPUanyway. I can't see a 'disable VNC' checkbox or option anywhere to completely switch it off though. I get repeated chars even on a bash prompt on the local machine - and it's about every five or so keystrokes, biased towards carriage returns and big events like shifting down half a page. It occurs equally on ssh's to other machines on local xterms as to xterms launched from those machines. The thing these setups have in common is the .xinitrc, .twmrc, .Xdefaults and .Xmodmap files. Can anyone suggest one of these to start adjusting? I can supply relevant sections - if anyone has a clue what's relevant!! Thanks in advance for any help with this one!! OK - I'll look at building from source and fiddling with code, if that'll prove I'm serious!! I'm going to have to get Exceed (shput!) if I can't resolve this... If no-one responds to this email, I'll keep the list informed of how I'm getting on. It'll be a riveting saga, I'm sure... =0) Oh - if we can fix that problem where alt-Tabbing into or out of Xfree splatters tabs over the in-focus window, it'll be a bonus. This has been suggested as related in the above threads... Duncan Cragg From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Apr 7 00:12:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 00:12:00 -0000 Subject: Duplicate Keystrokes - Again, Again! In-Reply-To: <3E90AEA7.1060802@cilux.org> References: <3E8C5A8F.50100@cilux.org> <3E90AEA7.1060802@cilux.org> Message-ID: <3E90C286.8090909@msu.edu> Duncan, Sorry, I haven't got a clue how to help you. I spent hours investigating the duplicate keystrokes problem many months ago. I described some of what I learned in the following email: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00195.html All I could see is that for certain instances of Windows keypress messages we were generating two keystrokes in the X Client with the focus. I followed this as low as I could with gdb and it was always a single keystroke as far as I could see, but it magically turned into two keystrokes at some level beyond where I could look. I speculated that perhaps this was something in the MI layer trying to do an "autorepeat" for us, which we don't want it to do. It could be the delay between the down message and the up message that is causing this. But, like I said, I looked through almost all of the code and nowhere could I find a part that looped and created extra keypresses in the X Client. I don't have enough time to look into this again... but I would be glad to help you if you would look into it. Harold Duncan Cragg wrote: > Since there's been no response to this, I thought I'd add a little more > detail in the hope of > triggerring a reaction!!! > See after this copy-paste of my original email: > >> Hello - I've just arrived at this list, so hope I don't break protocol >> in any way!! >> >> I have a problem which can be summarised as 'it's the same as the >> following past postings': >> >> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=+site:www.cygwin.com+xfree86+duplicate+keystrokes >> >> >> The discussions there mentioned the infrequency of the problem of >> duplicate keystrokes for the respondents - a couple of times a day. >> >> I, however, am getting this problem all the time: as in, every five >> commands or so, or every five edit keystrokes....!!!! >> >> Am I alone? >> >> Am I doing something odd? >> >> This happens on both my work and home installations (work is 1G, home >> is 500M laptop; home has VNC running which I can see would make this >> worse, but work is not overloaded). Both installations are >> out-of-the-box, running twm. I can supply more details (.Xmodmap, >> .twmrc, .Xdefaults, etc.) if someone thinks it's relevant. >> >> Any help appreciated! >> >> >> Duncan Cragg >> > So my work machine is NT and this problem only manifests when doing an > ssh to one of my home machines and running up an editor. It's bad > enough that it's intolerable for editing - repeated keystrokes occurring > every 10 or so. > > At home it's much worse - this machine is running Windows 2000. Like I > said, it's a 500Mhz and running VNC - but I've tried turning off some of > the VNC checkboxes, without any improvement. VNC is only using a tiny > bit of CPUanyway. I can't see a 'disable VNC' checkbox or option > anywhere to completely switch it off though. I get repeated chars even > on a bash prompt on the local machine - and it's about every five or so > keystrokes, biased towards carriage returns and big events like shifting > down half a page. It occurs equally on ssh's to other machines on local > xterms as to xterms launched from those machines. > > The thing these setups have in common is the .xinitrc, .twmrc, > .Xdefaults and .Xmodmap files. Can anyone suggest one of these to start > adjusting? I can supply relevant sections - if anyone has a clue what's > relevant!! > > Thanks in advance for any help with this one!! > > OK - I'll look at building from source and fiddling with code, if > that'll prove I'm serious!! I'm going to have to get Exceed (shput!) if > I can't resolve this... If no-one responds to this email, I'll keep the > list informed of how I'm getting on. It'll be a riveting saga, I'm > sure... =0) > Oh - if we can fix that problem where alt-Tabbing into or out of Xfree > splatters tabs over the in-focus window, it'll be a bonus. This has been > suggested as related in the above threads... > > > Duncan Cragg > > > > > > From renan.canoas@bol.com.br Mon Apr 7 02:11:00 2003 From: renan.canoas@bol.com.br (renan.canoas) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 02:11:00 -0000 Subject: Basic doubts... Message-ID: I am using Cygwin to run XFree86. I have some basic doubts: 1 - Can I run GTK, in order to use gimp? 2 - How do I install programs? Just download they to any directory and run "tar xf blablabla.tar"? 3 - Can I run XFree automatically at Windows bootup? []s __________________________________________________________________________ E-mail Premium BOL Antiv?rus, anti-spam e at? 100 MB de espa?o. Assine j?! http://email.bol.com.br/ From andrew.markebo@telia.com Mon Apr 7 09:43:00 2003 From: andrew.markebo@telia.com (Andrew Markebo) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 09:43:00 -0000 Subject: Basic doubts... In-Reply-To: ("renan.canoas"'s message of "Sun, 6 Apr 2003 23:11:05 -0300") References: Message-ID: / "renan.canoas" wrote: | I am using Cygwin to run XFree86. | I have some basic doubts: | | 1 - Can I run GTK, in order to use gimp? Hmm, haven't seen GTK on cygwin, but there exists a Win32-version of GTK, maybe gimp can be used that way? | 2 - How do I install programs? Just download they to any | directory and run "tar xf blablabla.tar"? Which programs? The Cygwin XFree ones? Through cygwins setup-program, findable at http://www.cygwin.com/ | 3 - Can I run XFree automatically at Windows bootup? Yep you can.. drag it (the startxwin.bat) into your startup.. /Andy -- "I [..] am rarely happier than when spending an entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand." -- Douglas Adams, "Last Chance to See" From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Apr 7 10:49:00 2003 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 10:49:00 -0000 Subject: Basic doubts... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 6 Apr 2003, renan.canoas wrote: > I am using Cygwin to run XFree86. > I have some basic doubts: > > 1 - Can I run GTK, in order to use gimp? Yes. http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2003-03/msg00030.html > 2 - How do I install programs? Just download they to any > directory and run "tar xf blablabla.tar"? Those packages that are in the core distribution are installed via cygwin setup. Some additional package can be installed via the setup too (afair kde-cygwin uses this). Some binary packages are unpacked via tar xvzf package.tar.gz and some even have to be compiled. > 3 - Can I run XFree automatically at Windows bootup? To start it after login you'll have to create a shortcut and place this in the autostart folder. To start it after boot (on NT, 2k and XP) you might want to take a look at cygrunsrv. bye ago From hj.beckers@kreis-steinfurt.de Mon Apr 7 11:26:00 2003 From: hj.beckers@kreis-steinfurt.de (hj.beckers@kreis-steinfurt.de) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 11:26:00 -0000 Subject: Antwort: Re: Basic doubts... Message-ID: >/ "renan.canoas" wrote: >| I am using Cygwin to run XFree86. >| I have some basic doubts: >| >| 1 - Can I run GTK, in order to use gimp? > >Hmm, haven't seen GTK on cygwin, but there exists a Win32-version of >GTK, maybe gimp can be used that way? There is already a compiled version of gimp for Win32, which relies on the Win32-GTK-version (http://gnuwin.epfl.ch/apps/gimp/en/index.html). Yours hjb From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Mon Apr 7 14:18:00 2003 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 14:18:00 -0000 Subject: Duplicate Keystrokes - Again, Again! In-Reply-To: <3E90C286.8090909@msu.edu> Message-ID: Harold, guys, I'm just about certain that the repeated keys are caused by latency, not by load: When I use Netmeeting to control a machine running Cygwin-XFree and I see the duplicated-keystroke problem often. When this happens, almost without exception, it is NOT the machine running Cygwin-XFree nor the machine running Linux who are under high load. Even the machine I am using to remote control is not under heavy load. It is rather, without fail, when the telecommunications link the Netmeeting session is routed over is running at capacity. Is it a workable hypothesis to suggest that what might be happening is this: A keydown message is arriving at Cygwin-XFree, and it takes too long for a key-up message to arrive, so Windows generates another key event? I seem to remember that Windows works like this - WM_KEYDOWN WM_CHAR if a pause of X milliseconds occurs here, Windows does this - WM_KEYDOWN WM_CHAR WM_KEYDOWN WM_CHAR ... More WM_KEYDOWNs and WM_CHARs until a WM_KEYUP arrives. WM_KEYUP The interesting part is that both the WM_KEYDOWN and WM_CHAR messages have a flag in them called 'fRepeat' that will be set to 1 (true) if this is the case. Anyhow, I downloaded the code for Cygwin's X server and I will spelunk it soon. I'd appreciate any ideas in the meantime. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II It could be the delay between the down message and the up message that is causing this. But, like I said, I looked through almost all of the code and nowhere could I find a part that looped and created extra keypresses in the X Client. From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Apr 7 14:42:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 14:42:00 -0000 Subject: Duplicate Keystrokes - Again, Again! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E918E62.5070600@msu.edu> Jean-Claude, Jean-Claude Gervais wrote: > Harold, guys, > > I'm just about certain that the repeated keys are caused by latency, not by > load: > > When I use Netmeeting to control a machine running Cygwin-XFree and I see > the duplicated-keystroke problem often. > Yeah, that is what I meant by high-load causing the problem. Basically, anything that causes a delay between keystrokes is causing the problem. > When this happens, almost without exception, it is NOT the machine running > Cygwin-XFree nor the machine running Linux who are under high load. Even the > machine I am using to remote control is not under heavy load. > > It is rather, without fail, when the telecommunications link the Netmeeting > session is routed over is running at capacity. > > Is it a workable hypothesis to suggest that what might be happening is this: > > A keydown message is arriving at Cygwin-XFree, and it takes too long for a > key-up message to arrive, so Windows generates another key event? > No, that most certainly is not it. I have said, many many times, that I followed a single key press message (WM_KEYDOWN) all the way down as far as I could with gdb. When I hit 'continue', BAM! I get two key strokes in the X Client. gdb then looped around to the breakpoint set in the WM_KEYDOWN message processing. So, there is no way that a WM_KEYDOWN could have snuck by me. I can say for certain that this was one WM_KEYDOWN causing two keystrokes to appear. > I seem to remember that Windows works like this - > > WM_KEYDOWN > > WM_CHAR > > if a pause of X milliseconds occurs here, Windows does this - > > WM_KEYDOWN > WM_CHAR > > WM_KEYDOWN > WM_CHAR > ... More WM_KEYDOWNs and WM_CHARs until a WM_KEYUP arrives. > WM_KEYUP > > The interesting part is that both the WM_KEYDOWN and WM_CHAR messages have a > flag in them called 'fRepeat' that will be set to 1 (true) if this is the > case. > > Anyhow, I downloaded the code for Cygwin's X server and I will spelunk it > soon. > > I'd appreciate any ideas in the meantime. > Let us know what you can figure out. Harold > > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On > Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II > > It could be the delay between the > down message and the up message that is causing this. But, like I said, > I looked through almost all of the code and nowhere could I find a part > that looped and created extra keypresses in the X Client. > From ihok@hotmail.com Mon Apr 7 23:16:00 2003 From: ihok@hotmail.com (Jack Tanner) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 23:16:00 -0000 Subject: two new -multiwindow bugs In-Reply-To: <001d01c2f1fb$a33e7560$340000c0@HESTIA> References: <001d01c2f1fb$a33e7560$340000c0@HESTIA> Message-ID: <3E92059A.4040607@hotmail.com> Nick Crabtree: >> Presumably, the xterm should get positioned on the same monitor regardless >> whether I use -rootless or -multiwindow. > Which of your monitors is the primary? I'm guessing it is the right hand one > (note that monitor 1 is not necessarily the primary, you have the choice). > If you set the primary monitor to be the left hand one then the xterm will > appear on the same monitor for both cases below. > > If it really matters to you then I could have a look at the code. Sorry about taking so long to respond. I didn't think this was a problem, but it is. As I described earlier in the thread, a new xterm gets positioned on the wrong monitor with -multiwindow -multiplemonitors (it shows up on the primary monitor, instead of at the origin on the leftmost monitor). The problem is that the mouse pointer gets positioned in the correct spot -- at the origin of the leftmost monitor. It's the two being out of sync that's bothersome. Best, JT From Roman.Adar@TycoHealthcare.com Tue Apr 8 03:05:00 2003 From: Roman.Adar@TycoHealthcare.com (Adar, Roman) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 03:05:00 -0000 Subject: XWin question Message-ID: <15365A9712EBD846A52E5CBB825A8AB703311635@pleasa1elm1.global1.mkg.com> Hi Cygwin/XFree86 Users I'm using the command "XWin -query &" to connect my PC to SUN using XFree86. When I connect to "ZEUS" I'm able to display the UNIX session on my windows. However when I try to login "HERA" in the same fashion, the display just hangs-up after the initial screen is displayed but it never goes to the "login-in" prompt. I've used both the IP for the systems and their aliases. In both cases I get the same results. ZEUS works OK but HERA is NOK. ZEUS is using SunOS 5.6 and HERA is using SunOS 5.8. Can someone recommend what else I should check to make sure that the X connection is made to the HERA machine as well? Thanks for your help. Roman From Vince.Hoffman@uk.circle.com Tue Apr 8 09:49:00 2003 From: Vince.Hoffman@uk.circle.com (Vince Hoffman) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 09:49:00 -0000 Subject: XWin question Message-ID: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA37955014BDA1B@EX-LONDON> does any of the stuff in the FAQ help ? http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-remote-solaris > -----Original Message----- > From: Adar, Roman [mailto:Roman.Adar@TycoHealthcare.com] > Sent: 08 April 2003 04:06 > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: XWin question > > > Hi Cygwin/XFree86 Users > > I'm using the command "XWin -query > &" to connect my > PC to SUN using XFree86. > > When I connect to "ZEUS" I'm able to display the UNIX session > on my windows. > However when I try to login "HERA" in the same fashion, the > display just > hangs-up after the initial screen is displayed but it never > goes to the > "login-in" prompt. > > I've used both the IP for the systems and their aliases. In > both cases I get > the same results. ZEUS works OK but HERA is NOK. > > ZEUS is using SunOS 5.6 and HERA is using SunOS 5.8. > > Can someone recommend what else I should check to make sure that the X > connection is made to the HERA machine as well? > > Thanks for your help. > > Roman > > From david_e_williams@gmx.net Tue Apr 8 17:28:00 2003 From: david_e_williams@gmx.net (David Williams) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 17:28:00 -0000 Subject: Another "Can't find libX11.dll" problem Message-ID: <20030408101615.27E4.DAVID_E_WILLIAMS@gmx.net> I have been all over the internet, and found lots of people getting the same error message as I am. Unfortunately, I have not been able to find a solution that works for me. My appologies to anyone thinking "not again". I am running the most current version of Cygwin on a WIN2K machine. When run locally, the X Window system seems to be working fine. At least I do not get any pop-up error messages, and my X Window session opens up and functions. I am trying to use remote XDM on a Debian (Woody) system, where X is also functioning locally. Using the command: "C:\Program Files\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe" -query with the start path of: "C:\Program Files\cygwin\bin" I get a pop-up telling me that it cannot find "libX11.dll". After clicking on "OK", I get my XDM login screen, and everything works perfectly. I just can't figure out how to get rid of that error pop-up. Any ideas? From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Tue Apr 8 18:00:00 2003 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 18:00:00 -0000 Subject: Another "Can't find libX11.dll" problem In-Reply-To: <20030408101615.27E4.DAVID_E_WILLIAMS@gmx.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 8 Apr 2003, David Williams wrote: > I have been all over the internet, and found lots of people getting the > same error message as I am. Unfortunately, I have not been able to find > a solution that works for me. My appologies to anyone thinking "not > again". > > I am running the most current version of Cygwin on a WIN2K machine. > When run locally, the X Window system seems to be working fine. At > least I do not get any pop-up error messages, and my X Window session > opens up and functions. > > I am trying to use remote XDM on a Debian (Woody) system, where X is > also functioning locally. > > Using the command: > > "C:\Program Files\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe" -query system> > > with the start path of: > > "C:\Program Files\cygwin\bin" > > I get a pop-up telling me that it cannot find "libX11.dll". > > After clicking on "OK", I get my XDM login screen, and everything works > perfectly. I just can't figure out how to get rid of that error pop-up. > > Any ideas? David, libX11.dll is in "/usr/X11R6/bin". Try adding both "c:\cygwin\bin" and "c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin" to your Windows PATH. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty. -- Leto II From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Apr 8 18:06:00 2003 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 18:06:00 -0000 Subject: Another "Can't find libX11.dll" problem In-Reply-To: <20030408101615.27E4.DAVID_E_WILLIAMS@gmx.net> Message-ID: David Williams wrote: > > "C:\Program Files\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe" -query system> > > with the start path of: > > "C:\Program Files\cygwin\bin" > > I get a pop-up telling me that it cannot find "libX11.dll". > > After clicking on "OK", I get my XDM login screen, and everything works > perfectly. I just can't figure out how to get rid of that error pop-up. This is a path issue. A program searches dll in - directory where exe is located (a) - current working dir (b) - path (c) - windows directories (d) For XWin.exe this is ok. It finds its dlls in (a) and (b). But xwin runs another program: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp. And this program can't find cygX11.dll in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb nor in /usr/bin. So you'll have to add c:\Program Files\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin to the default path (c). bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From david_e_williams@gmx.net Tue Apr 8 18:33:00 2003 From: david_e_williams@gmx.net (David Williams) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 18:33:00 -0000 Subject: Another "Can't find libX11.dll" problem In-Reply-To: References: <20030408101615.27E4.DAVID_E_WILLIAMS@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20030408112954.9245.DAVID_E_WILLIAMS@gmx.net> > > I get a pop-up telling me that it cannot find "libX11.dll". > > > > After clicking on "OK", I get my XDM login screen, and everything works > > perfectly. I just can't figure out how to get rid of that error pop-up. > > > > Any ideas? This simplest solutions work best. :) Thank you. That cleared it up. From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 8 19:24:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 19:24:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard non-US In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E9321CC.4090301@msu.edu> Alexander, Okay, I applied the patch and have released XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-29. I don't know that I will make a formal release announcement or not. Kaio - Please test this to see if it works. Harold Alexander Gottwald wrote: > kaio wrote: > > >>KeyboardType: 4: IBM enhanced (101- or 102-key) keyboard >>KeyboardLayout: 00000410 > > > @Harold: > > can you apply this patch please? > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- winconfig.ol Sat Apr 5 16:13:13 2003 > +++ winconfig.c Sat Apr 5 16:11:23 2003 > @@ -232,6 +232,7 @@ > {0x40b, 4, "pc105", "fi", NULL, NULL, "Finnish"}, > {0x40c, 4, "pc105", "fr", NULL, NULL, "French (Standard)"}, > {0x80c, 4, "pc105", "be", NULL, NULL, "French (Belgian)"}, > + {0x410, 4, "pc105", "it", NULL, NULL, "Italian"}, > {0x41d, 4, "pc105", "se", NULL, NULL, "Swedish (Sweden)"}, > {-1, -1, NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL} > }; > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > bye > ago > NP: VNV Nation - Epicentre From Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com Tue Apr 8 19:24:00 2003 From: Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com (Cary Jamison) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 19:24:00 -0000 Subject: XWin -clipboard and xwinclip bad highlighting behavior Message-ID: "Andrew Braverman" wrote in message news:<000c01c2fa25$d8ae9810$1e54cea7@andrew>... > The one other thing that I notice that I think is related to this is > that in some applications (the one I see it in is ddd when compiled > with lesstif), the selection does not even hold long enough to select > it. If I click and drag (while still holding down the mouse button) > the selection disappears. If I try to paste, my buffer has been > deleted. I also have a related problem when I want to get a menu > relating to an area that is larger than the default area. Normally, I > would select the larger area and click (or right click) on it to get > the appropriate menu. I can never do that. Does anyone have any > ideas? I find that the times I actually need to cut/paste between Windows and X to be very few. I'm mostly doing it within windows or within X but not between them. Because of this I only start xwinclip when I need it. I have a shortcut on my desktop so I can quickly start it when I want and then close it when I'm done. That way I don't get bothered by the weird selection problems in X. It's a bit of a pain, but if it bothered me too much, I suppose I would dig in and fix X to do it right. I'm sure Harold keeps hoping someone will dig in and do it so this issue will go away! Cary From bijumaillist@yahoo.com Wed Apr 9 03:30:00 2003 From: bijumaillist@yahoo.com (Biju G C) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 03:30:00 -0000 Subject: XWin -clipboard and xwinclip bad highlighting behavior In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030409033044.71472.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, > between them. Because of this I only start xwinclip when I need it. I > have a shortcut on my desktop so I can quickly start it when I want and This is a good idea, So why not we have a GUI option for "xwinclip" So who ever wants it can "Enable" and "Disable" Clipboard sharing on the fly. A "copy one time at click" option will also be good. Cheers Biju --- Cary Jamison wrote: > "Andrew Braverman" wrote in message > > The one other thing that I notice that I think is related to this is > > that in some applications (the one I see it in is ddd when compiled ......... > between them. Because of this I only start xwinclip when I need it. I > have a shortcut on my desktop so I can quickly start it when I want and .......... > Cary __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com From civario@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr Wed Apr 9 05:55:00 2003 From: civario@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr (gilles civario) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 05:55:00 -0000 Subject: XWin -clipboard and xwinclip bad highlighting behavior Message-ID: <3E93B5BD.5090600@mimosa.ceng.cea.fr> Cary Jamison wrote: > I find that the times I actually need to cut/paste between Windows and X > to be very few. I'm mostly doing it within windows or within X but not > between them. Because of this I only start xwinclip when I need it. I > have a shortcut on my desktop so I can quickly start it when I want and > then close it when I'm done. That way I don't get bothered by the weird > selection problems in X. My usage of the clipboard it exactly the same as yours. That's why I think that the standalone xwinclip package should evolve as the integrated one does. I however recognise that I don't feel I can do it myself... Nevertheless, here is tow cool stuff that xwinclip could have: - To be launched with the command line argument in XWin, but to be activated only when needed, may be with a particular keyboard shortcut, or a special right-click on the windows tool bar XWin icon - When the clipboard is activated, to be able to force the copy/past to/from the clipboard with keyboards shortcuts (particularly useful for copying X-selection to windows clipboard when the selection is made in a terminal. I'm usually have to open a text editor to past the selection on it, and to reselect it, to force it to be store on the windows clipboard) Does anybody think it could be possible? Gilles. From Peter.Reimann@deu.xerox.com Wed Apr 9 11:44:00 2003 From: Peter.Reimann@deu.xerox.com (Reimann, Peter) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 11:44:00 -0000 Subject: Mozilla crashes using a x terminal on solaris Message-ID: <31C3BDC47886D511916D00508B2C391FDF7B4F@deuhbsms02.hbs.deu.xerox.com> Hallo, I use cygwin on Windows 2000. If I make a x-terminal for a solaris host and starts mozilla there the browser crashes by clicking on any input field with: >moz [1] 2913 (mozilla comes up, I click to the adress input field, mozilla crashes ...) X Error of failed request: BadAtom (invalid Atom parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 17 (X_GetAtomName) Atom id in failed request: 0xc2000000 Serial number of failed request: 3338 Current serial number in output stream: 3338 [1] Exit 1 /import/mozilla-1.1/mozilla I call the x terminal in a batch using the XWinTest79.exe with: start /B XWin.exe nologo -engine 4 -once -query hal9000 -fp tcp/HAL9000:7100 -ac -clipboard If I do not use -clipboard mozilla works fine. The remote host is a solaris host: OS version: 5.8 Processor type: sparc Hardware: SUNW,Ultra-4 What is my fault? Thanks for your help. Peter This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) or relevant Xerox entity named above. If you are not the named or intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. From nhughes@iastate.edu Wed Apr 9 16:06:00 2003 From: nhughes@iastate.edu (Hughes, Noah) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 16:06:00 -0000 Subject: Strange Question: Xfree86 on Terminal Services(RDP) Message-ID: <3303663DAAB3F747A35A38278EFC92248B70@myles.eng.iastate.edu> We have students that logon to a Terminal Server and sometimes want to use unix resources. We have been using X-Win32 and I thought I would give Xfree86 a try. From my computer cygwin-Xfree86 works fine. From the Terminal Server using cygwin-Xfree86 we experience no stability and many crashes. The XWinrl.log files did not have anything suspect, however, I did find a stack dump (below). This happens whether I am using the Test79 Server or the latest Standard Xwin.exe Server. Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=0041E2D5 eax=102DF598 ebx=B0558B00 ecx=00000001 edx=104DA0E4 esi=10008FFF edi=10450B8C ebp=0022FE18 esp=0022FDF0 program=C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin-Test79.exe cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs=0000 ss=0023 Stack trace: Frame Function Args 0022FE18 0041E2D5 (00000001, 00000000, 00000029, 00000000) 0022FE48 0041E1E8 (4020004B, 20000009, 104DA0A0, 10450A48) 0022FE68 0042C156 (104DA0A0, 00000010, 0022FEA8, 00408022) 0022FE78 00429DC3 (10450A48, 00000056, 00000000, 00000000) 0022FEA8 00408022 (00000002, 00000000, 615F2058, 00000001) 0022FEF0 0040179A (00000004, 615F2058, 100F0328, 0022FF24) 0022FF40 61007408 (610D1F58, FFFFFFFE, 00000054, 610D1E7C) 0022FF90 610076ED (00000000, 00000000, FFFFFFFF, 80430990) 0022FFB0 006FD222 (00401490, 037F0009, 0022FFF0, 77EA847C) 0022FFC0 0040103C (0022E7A0, 0022F840, 7FFDF000, 0022E8C8) 0022FFF0 77EA847C (00401000, 00000000, 000000C8, 00000100) End of stack trace Does anyone have an idea of how to increase the stability of cygwin-Xfree86 in a Terminal Service session. Thanks --------------------------------------------------------- Noah Hughes Systems Administrator Engineering Computing Support Services nhughes@iastate.edu From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 9 16:13:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 16:13:00 -0000 Subject: Strange Question: Xfree86 on Terminal Services(RDP) In-Reply-To: <3303663DAAB3F747A35A38278EFC92248B70@myles.eng.iastate.edu> References: <3303663DAAB3F747A35A38278EFC92248B70@myles.eng.iastate.edu> Message-ID: <3E9446A6.7050008@msu.edu> Noah, Your problem is likely unrelated to RDP. To test this hypothesis, login to the console of the Terminal Server and run Cygwin/XFree86. See if you can make it crash. I suspect that it will crash just as easily on console as it will through RDP. Now, what I suspect is that you have multiple versions and copies of cygwin1.dll on your Terminal Server. Lots of projects come with a copy of cygwin1.dll and it doesn't matter that many of them may not appear to be in your path. You need to make sure that there is one copy of cygwin1.dll on your machine, and one copy alone. There is more information about this topic here: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-status-access-violation At the risk of being crude, I have told many people this before and it often results in some sort of response claiming that having multiple copies of cygwin1.dll on their machine shouldn't be causing problems for them. I then restate what I said, they delete the extra copies, and everything works. Please, if you have multiple copies of cygwin1.dll, take my word for it that they are the culprit. If not, we will need some more information to figure out what is causing your problem. Harold Hughes, Noah wrote: > We have students that logon to a Terminal Server and sometimes want to use > unix resources. We have been using X-Win32 and I thought I would give > Xfree86 a try. From my computer cygwin-Xfree86 works fine. From the > Terminal Server using cygwin-Xfree86 we experience no stability and many > crashes. > > > The XWinrl.log files did not have anything suspect, however, I did find a > stack dump (below). This happens whether I am using the Test79 Server or > the latest Standard Xwin.exe Server. > > > Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=0041E2D5 > eax=102DF598 ebx=B0558B00 ecx=00000001 edx=104DA0E4 esi=10008FFF > edi=10450B8C > ebp=0022FE18 esp=0022FDF0 program=C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin-Test79.exe > cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs=0000 ss=0023 > > Stack trace: > > Frame Function Args > > 0022FE18 0041E2D5 (00000001, 00000000, 00000029, 00000000) > 0022FE48 0041E1E8 (4020004B, 20000009, 104DA0A0, 10450A48) > 0022FE68 0042C156 (104DA0A0, 00000010, 0022FEA8, 00408022) > 0022FE78 00429DC3 (10450A48, 00000056, 00000000, 00000000) > 0022FEA8 00408022 (00000002, 00000000, 615F2058, 00000001) > 0022FEF0 0040179A (00000004, 615F2058, 100F0328, 0022FF24) > 0022FF40 61007408 (610D1F58, FFFFFFFE, 00000054, 610D1E7C) > 0022FF90 610076ED (00000000, 00000000, FFFFFFFF, 80430990) > 0022FFB0 006FD222 (00401490, 037F0009, 0022FFF0, 77EA847C) > 0022FFC0 0040103C (0022E7A0, 0022F840, 7FFDF000, 0022E8C8) > 0022FFF0 77EA847C (00401000, 00000000, 000000C8, 00000100) > > End of stack trace > > > Does anyone have an idea of how to increase the stability of cygwin-Xfree86 > in a Terminal Service session. > > > > Thanks > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Noah Hughes > Systems Administrator > Engineering Computing Support Services > nhughes@iastate.edu > > From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Wed Apr 9 16:16:00 2003 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 16:16:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, nuno Cerqueira wrote: > Hello once again: > > I have a problem when I am runing wmaker. > I am Portuguese and the keyboard is ok in the Cygwin shell, but when I run > the wmaker and I open a shell the keyboard is no longer portuguese. > Can anyone helpme. Yes. There are plenty of helpful and knowledgeable people on the list, where questions regarding XFree86 should be sent. I've redirected this query there, and reset the Reply-To appropriately. Please remove from further replies. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty. -- Leto II From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Apr 9 16:35:00 2003 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 16:35:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, nuno Cerqueira wrote: > > > Hello once again: > > > > I have a problem when I am runing wmaker. > > I am Portuguese and the keyboard is ok in the Cygwin shell, but when I run > > the wmaker and I open a shell the keyboard is no longer portuguese. > > Can anyone helpme. get http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/XF86Config.bz2, unpack it to /etc/X11R/Xf86Config and replace the line # Option "XkbLayout" "de" with Option "XkbLayout" "pt" If this works for you, can you please run the program from http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/keyboard.tar.gz and send me the output? It queries windows for the installed keyboard and keyboardlayout. If I know these values, I can add them to the preset XFree keyboardlayouts. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Wed Apr 9 16:55:00 2003 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 16:55:00 -0000 Subject: Strange Question: Xfree86 on Terminal Services(RDP) In-Reply-To: <3E9446A6.7050008@msu.edu> Message-ID: If I may pipe up - Also, I *think* you'll probably have to run -engine 1 to get a proper display on Terminal Server. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:13 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Strange Question: Xfree86 on Terminal Services(RDP) Noah, Your problem is likely unrelated to RDP. To test this hypothesis, login to the console of the Terminal Server and run Cygwin/XFree86. See if you can make it crash. I suspect that it will crash just as easily on console as it will through RDP. Now, what I suspect is that you have multiple versions and copies of cygwin1.dll on your Terminal Server. Lots of projects come with a copy of cygwin1.dll and it doesn't matter that many of them may not appear to be in your path. You need to make sure that there is one copy of cygwin1.dll on your machine, and one copy alone. There is more information about this topic here: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-status-access-vio lation At the risk of being crude, I have told many people this before and it often results in some sort of response claiming that having multiple copies of cygwin1.dll on their machine shouldn't be causing problems for them. I then restate what I said, they delete the extra copies, and everything works. Please, if you have multiple copies of cygwin1.dll, take my word for it that they are the culprit. If not, we will need some more information to figure out what is causing your problem. Harold Hughes, Noah wrote: > We have students that logon to a Terminal Server and sometimes want to use > unix resources. We have been using X-Win32 and I thought I would give > Xfree86 a try. From my computer cygwin-Xfree86 works fine. From the > Terminal Server using cygwin-Xfree86 we experience no stability and many > crashes. > > > The XWinrl.log files did not have anything suspect, however, I did find a > stack dump (below). This happens whether I am using the Test79 Server or > the latest Standard Xwin.exe Server. > > > Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=0041E2D5 > eax=102DF598 ebx=B0558B00 ecx=00000001 edx=104DA0E4 esi=10008FFF > edi=10450B8C > ebp=0022FE18 esp=0022FDF0 program=C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin-Test79.exe > cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs=0000 ss=0023 > > Stack trace: > > Frame Function Args > > 0022FE18 0041E2D5 (00000001, 00000000, 00000029, 00000000) > 0022FE48 0041E1E8 (4020004B, 20000009, 104DA0A0, 10450A48) > 0022FE68 0042C156 (104DA0A0, 00000010, 0022FEA8, 00408022) > 0022FE78 00429DC3 (10450A48, 00000056, 00000000, 00000000) > 0022FEA8 00408022 (00000002, 00000000, 615F2058, 00000001) > 0022FEF0 0040179A (00000004, 615F2058, 100F0328, 0022FF24) > 0022FF40 61007408 (610D1F58, FFFFFFFE, 00000054, 610D1E7C) > 0022FF90 610076ED (00000000, 00000000, FFFFFFFF, 80430990) > 0022FFB0 006FD222 (00401490, 037F0009, 0022FFF0, 77EA847C) > 0022FFC0 0040103C (0022E7A0, 0022F840, 7FFDF000, 0022E8C8) > 0022FFF0 77EA847C (00401000, 00000000, 000000C8, 00000100) > > End of stack trace > > > Does anyone have an idea of how to increase the stability of cygwin-Xfree86 > in a Terminal Service session. > > > > Thanks > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Noah Hughes > Systems Administrator > Engineering Computing Support Services > nhughes@iastate.edu > > From nhughes@iastate.edu Wed Apr 9 17:15:00 2003 From: nhughes@iastate.edu (Hughes, Noah) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 17:15:00 -0000 Subject: Strange Question: Xfree86 on Terminal Services(RDP) Message-ID: <3303663DAAB3F747A35A38278EFC9224978E@myles.eng.iastate.edu> There is only one cygwin1.dll on the system, however after more testing I found that X-server at 16bit color is stable and works, but at 8bit color it still crashes. Also I have tired engine 1-4 and I get the same results. Thanks -------------------------------------------------------- Noah Hughes Systems Administrator Engineering Computing Support Services nhughes@iastate.edu -----Original Message----- From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:13 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Strange Question: Xfree86 on Terminal Services(RDP) Noah, Your problem is likely unrelated to RDP. To test this hypothesis, login to the console of the Terminal Server and run Cygwin/XFree86. See if you can make it crash. I suspect that it will crash just as easily on console as it will through RDP. Now, what I suspect is that you have multiple versions and copies of cygwin1.dll on your Terminal Server. Lots of projects come with a copy of cygwin1.dll and it doesn't matter that many of them may not appear to be in your path. You need to make sure that there is one copy of cygwin1.dll on your machine, and one copy alone. There is more information about this topic here: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-status-access-vio lation At the risk of being crude, I have told many people this before and it often results in some sort of response claiming that having multiple copies of cygwin1.dll on their machine shouldn't be causing problems for them. I then restate what I said, they delete the extra copies, and everything works. Please, if you have multiple copies of cygwin1.dll, take my word for it that they are the culprit. If not, we will need some more information to figure out what is causing your problem. Harold Hughes, Noah wrote: > We have students that logon to a Terminal Server and sometimes want to use > unix resources. We have been using X-Win32 and I thought I would give > Xfree86 a try. From my computer cygwin-Xfree86 works fine. From the > Terminal Server using cygwin-Xfree86 we experience no stability and many > crashes. > > > The XWinrl.log files did not have anything suspect, however, I did find a > stack dump (below). This happens whether I am using the Test79 Server or > the latest Standard Xwin.exe Server. > > > Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=0041E2D5 > eax=102DF598 ebx=B0558B00 ecx=00000001 edx=104DA0E4 esi=10008FFF > edi=10450B8C > ebp=0022FE18 esp=0022FDF0 program=C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin-Test79.exe > cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs=0000 ss=0023 > > Stack trace: > > Frame Function Args > > 0022FE18 0041E2D5 (00000001, 00000000, 00000029, 00000000) > 0022FE48 0041E1E8 (4020004B, 20000009, 104DA0A0, 10450A48) > 0022FE68 0042C156 (104DA0A0, 00000010, 0022FEA8, 00408022) > 0022FE78 00429DC3 (10450A48, 00000056, 00000000, 00000000) > 0022FEA8 00408022 (00000002, 00000000, 615F2058, 00000001) > 0022FEF0 0040179A (00000004, 615F2058, 100F0328, 0022FF24) > 0022FF40 61007408 (610D1F58, FFFFFFFE, 00000054, 610D1E7C) > 0022FF90 610076ED (00000000, 00000000, FFFFFFFF, 80430990) > 0022FFB0 006FD222 (00401490, 037F0009, 0022FFF0, 77EA847C) > 0022FFC0 0040103C (0022E7A0, 0022F840, 7FFDF000, 0022E8C8) > 0022FFF0 77EA847C (00401000, 00000000, 000000C8, 00000100) > > End of stack trace > > > Does anyone have an idea of how to increase the stability of cygwin-Xfree86 > in a Terminal Service session. > > > > Thanks > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Noah Hughes > Systems Administrator > Engineering Computing Support Services > nhughes@iastate.edu > > From nhughes@iastate.edu Wed Apr 9 17:44:00 2003 From: nhughes@iastate.edu (Hughes, Noah) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 17:44:00 -0000 Subject: Strange Question: Xfree86 on Terminal Services(RDP) Message-ID: <3303663DAAB3F747A35A38278EFC92248B72@myles.eng.iastate.edu> To add to what I said the 16bit and 8bit color is the color depth for the Terminal Server Session. Does anyone know why running at 8bit color would crash X? Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Hughes, Noah [mailto:nhughes@iastate.edu] There is only one cygwin1.dll on the system, however after more testing I found that X-server at 16bit color is stable and works, but at 8bit color it still crashes. Also I have tired engine 1-4 and I get the same results. Thanks -------------------------------------------------------- Noah Hughes Systems Administrator Engineering Computing Support Services nhughes@iastate.edu -----Original Message----- From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:13 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Strange Question: Xfree86 on Terminal Services(RDP) Noah, Your problem is likely unrelated to RDP. To test this hypothesis, login to the console of the Terminal Server and run Cygwin/XFree86. See if you can make it crash. I suspect that it will crash just as easily on console as it will through RDP. Now, what I suspect is that you have multiple versions and copies of cygwin1.dll on your Terminal Server. Lots of projects come with a copy of cygwin1.dll and it doesn't matter that many of them may not appear to be in your path. You need to make sure that there is one copy of cygwin1.dll on your machine, and one copy alone. There is more information about this topic here: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-status-access-vio lation At the risk of being crude, I have told many people this before and it often results in some sort of response claiming that having multiple copies of cygwin1.dll on their machine shouldn't be causing problems for them. I then restate what I said, they delete the extra copies, and everything works. Please, if you have multiple copies of cygwin1.dll, take my word for it that they are the culprit. If not, we will need some more information to figure out what is causing your problem. Harold Hughes, Noah wrote: > We have students that logon to a Terminal Server and sometimes want to use > unix resources. We have been using X-Win32 and I thought I would give > Xfree86 a try. From my computer cygwin-Xfree86 works fine. From the > Terminal Server using cygwin-Xfree86 we experience no stability and many > crashes. > > > The XWinrl.log files did not have anything suspect, however, I did find a > stack dump (below). This happens whether I am using the Test79 Server or > the latest Standard Xwin.exe Server. > > > Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=0041E2D5 > eax=102DF598 ebx=B0558B00 ecx=00000001 edx=104DA0E4 esi=10008FFF > edi=10450B8C > ebp=0022FE18 esp=0022FDF0 program=C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin-Test79.exe > cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs=0000 ss=0023 > > Stack trace: > > Frame Function Args > > 0022FE18 0041E2D5 (00000001, 00000000, 00000029, 00000000) > 0022FE48 0041E1E8 (4020004B, 20000009, 104DA0A0, 10450A48) > 0022FE68 0042C156 (104DA0A0, 00000010, 0022FEA8, 00408022) > 0022FE78 00429DC3 (10450A48, 00000056, 00000000, 00000000) > 0022FEA8 00408022 (00000002, 00000000, 615F2058, 00000001) > 0022FEF0 0040179A (00000004, 615F2058, 100F0328, 0022FF24) > 0022FF40 61007408 (610D1F58, FFFFFFFE, 00000054, 610D1E7C) > 0022FF90 610076ED (00000000, 00000000, FFFFFFFF, 80430990) > 0022FFB0 006FD222 (00401490, 037F0009, 0022FFF0, 77EA847C) > 0022FFC0 0040103C (0022E7A0, 0022F840, 7FFDF000, 0022E8C8) > 0022FFF0 77EA847C (00401000, 00000000, 000000C8, 00000100) > > End of stack trace > > > Does anyone have an idea of how to increase the stability of cygwin-Xfree86 > in a Terminal Service session. > > > > Thanks > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Noah Hughes > Systems Administrator > Engineering Computing Support Services > nhughes@iastate.edu > > From Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com Wed Apr 9 18:30:00 2003 From: Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com (Cary Jamison) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 18:30:00 -0000 Subject: XWin -clipboard and xwinclip bad highlighting behavior Message-ID: "Biju G C" wrote in message news:<20030409033044.71472.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com>... > Hi, > > between them. Because of this I only start xwinclip when I need it. I > > have a shortcut on my desktop so I can quickly start it when I > want and > > This is a good idea, So why not we have a GUI option for "xwinclip" > So who ever wants it can "Enable" and "Disable" Clipboard sharing > on the fly. > > A "copy one time at click" option will also be good. That would be a better work-around. Personally, though, I would rather spend my time trying to fix it right than working on a work-around. Unless fixing it right turns out to be way too tough - which may be the case and may be why Harold hasn't done it already. Also, Harold has recently done the work to integrate xwinclip into the server, so doing more work on it may be viewed as a step backward. > Cheers > Biju Cary From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 9 20:54:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 20:54:00 -0000 Subject: XWin -clipboard and xwinclip bad highlighting behavior In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E94889E.6020005@msu.edu> Cary, Cary Jamison wrote: > "Biju G C" wrote in message > news:<20030409033044.71472.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com>... > >>Hi, >> > between them. Because of this I only start xwinclip when I need > > it. I > >> > have a shortcut on my desktop so I can quickly start it when I >>want and >> >>This is a good idea, So why not we have a GUI option for "xwinclip" >>So who ever wants it can "Enable" and "Disable" Clipboard sharing >>on the fly. >> >>A "copy one time at click" option will also be good. > > > That would be a better work-around. Personally, though, I would rather > spend my time trying to fix it right than working on a work-around. > Unless fixing it right turns out to be way too tough - which may be the > case and may be why Harold hasn't done it already. > Yeah, kinda sounds pointless in the grand scheme of things > Also, Harold has recently done the work to integrate xwinclip into the > server, so doing more work on it may be viewed as a step backward. > I have now realized that the real way to integrate the X and Windows clipboards is with hooks in the general X server code that call routines in the Windows-specific code and so forth. It is highly unlikely that the clipboard integration will require an X client application, and this removes many of the short comings of the current clipboard application. For example, the nightmares people have using xwinclip or -clipboard with XDMCP will go away with server-side code handling the integration. I am not sure if the integration would be provided by an X Server extension or if we would have to have some #ifdef __CYGWIN__ sections in the general X server code. In any case, I haven't got time to work on it and I am unlikely to for months, or even forever. Hopefully someone else will find clipboard integration interesting to them. Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 9 21:01:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 21:01:00 -0000 Subject: Strange Question: Xfree86 on Terminal Services(RDP) In-Reply-To: <3303663DAAB3F747A35A38278EFC92248B72@myles.eng.iastate.edu> References: <3303663DAAB3F747A35A38278EFC92248B72@myles.eng.iastate.edu> Message-ID: <3E948A08.8070005@msu.edu> Noah, When you run with 8 bit color in windowed (non-fullscreen) mode the engine is forced to be engine 1, which is Shadow GDI DIB. If you look at the log file, you will see a report that the engine passed on the command line is being ignored for that very reason. GDI DIB is the only engine that supports a mostly correct color pallette in 8 bit color. DirectDraw forces several of the colors in an 8 bit pallette to be reserved, which causes a problem with the way that X needs the pallette to be allocated. So, DirectDraw 8 bit color is only available in fullscreen mode. With all of that said, I have no idea what the problem is. I would like you to run XWin.exe in 8 bit color on the console of the Terminal Server. Please report your results. If it is stable on the console then I can maybe add some printf's to figure out what is happening. If not, then we can conclude that the video driver for your video card is buggy or you have some similar sort of problem. Harold Hughes, Noah wrote: > To add to what I said the 16bit and 8bit color is the color depth for the > Terminal Server Session. Does anyone know why running at 8bit color would > crash X? > > Thanks > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hughes, Noah [mailto:nhughes@iastate.edu] > > There is only one cygwin1.dll on the system, however after more testing I > found that X-server at 16bit color is stable and works, but at 8bit color it > still crashes. > > Also I have tired engine 1-4 and I get the same results. > > Thanks > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Noah Hughes > Systems Administrator > Engineering Computing Support Services > nhughes@iastate.edu > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:13 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Strange Question: Xfree86 on Terminal Services(RDP) > > Noah, > > Your problem is likely unrelated to RDP. > > To test this hypothesis, login to the console of the Terminal Server and > run Cygwin/XFree86. See if you can make it crash. I suspect that it > will crash just as easily on console as it will through RDP. > > Now, what I suspect is that you have multiple versions and copies of > cygwin1.dll on your Terminal Server. Lots of projects come with a copy > of cygwin1.dll and it doesn't matter that many of them may not appear to > be in your path. You need to make sure that there is one copy of > cygwin1.dll on your machine, and one copy alone. There is more > information about this topic here: > > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-status-access-vio > lation > > > At the risk of being crude, I have told many people this before and it > often results in some sort of response claiming that having multiple > copies of cygwin1.dll on their machine shouldn't be causing problems for > them. I then restate what I said, they delete the extra copies, and > everything works. Please, if you have multiple copies of cygwin1.dll, > take my word for it that they are the culprit. If not, we will need > some more information to figure out what is causing your problem. > > > Harold > > Hughes, Noah wrote: > >>We have students that logon to a Terminal Server and sometimes want to use >>unix resources. We have been using X-Win32 and I thought I would give >>Xfree86 a try. From my computer cygwin-Xfree86 works fine. From the >>Terminal Server using cygwin-Xfree86 we experience no stability and many >>crashes. >> >> >>The XWinrl.log files did not have anything suspect, however, I did find a >>stack dump (below). This happens whether I am using the Test79 Server or >>the latest Standard Xwin.exe Server. >> >> >>Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=0041E2D5 >>eax=102DF598 ebx=B0558B00 ecx=00000001 edx=104DA0E4 esi=10008FFF >>edi=10450B8C >>ebp=0022FE18 esp=0022FDF0 program=C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin-Test79.exe >>cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs=0000 ss=0023 >> >>Stack trace: >> >>Frame Function Args >> >>0022FE18 0041E2D5 (00000001, 00000000, 00000029, 00000000) >>0022FE48 0041E1E8 (4020004B, 20000009, 104DA0A0, 10450A48) >>0022FE68 0042C156 (104DA0A0, 00000010, 0022FEA8, 00408022) >>0022FE78 00429DC3 (10450A48, 00000056, 00000000, 00000000) >>0022FEA8 00408022 (00000002, 00000000, 615F2058, 00000001) >>0022FEF0 0040179A (00000004, 615F2058, 100F0328, 0022FF24) >>0022FF40 61007408 (610D1F58, FFFFFFFE, 00000054, 610D1E7C) >>0022FF90 610076ED (00000000, 00000000, FFFFFFFF, 80430990) >>0022FFB0 006FD222 (00401490, 037F0009, 0022FFF0, 77EA847C) >>0022FFC0 0040103C (0022E7A0, 0022F840, 7FFDF000, 0022E8C8) >>0022FFF0 77EA847C (00401000, 00000000, 000000C8, 00000100) >> >>End of stack trace >> >> >>Does anyone have an idea of how to increase the stability of > > cygwin-Xfree86 > >>in a Terminal Service session. >> >> >> >>Thanks >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------- >>Noah Hughes >>Systems Administrator >>Engineering Computing Support Services >>nhughes@iastate.edu >> >> > > > From pedrobelchi@yahoo.es Thu Apr 10 12:54:00 2003 From: pedrobelchi@yahoo.es (Pedro) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 12:54:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard Message-ID: Hello, > On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, nuno Cerqueira wrote: > > > Hello once again: > > > > I have a problem when I am runing wmaker. > > I am Portuguese and the keyboard is ok in the Cygwin shell, but when I run > > the wmaker and I open a shell the keyboard is no longer portuguese. > > Can anyone helpme. >get http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/XF86Config.bz2, unpack it >to /etc/X11R/Xf86Config and replace the line ># Option "XkbLayout" "de" with > Option "XkbLayout" "pt" I have the a simlar problem (instead with wmaker i do have it once the window server is runnig and I open a xterm) , but trying to find the spanish keyboard. Following the previous email I have replaced # Option "XkbLayout" "de" with Option "XkbLayout" "es" But it does not work properly, I still have the us keyboard Could anyboy help me, Pedro From duncan@cilux.org Thu Apr 10 13:21:00 2003 From: duncan@cilux.org (Duncan Cragg) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 13:21:00 -0000 Subject: Duplicate Keystrokes - Again, Again! In-Reply-To: <3E90C286.8090909@msu.edu> References: <3E8C5A8F.50100@cilux.org> <3E90AEA7.1060802@cilux.org> <3E90C286.8090909@msu.edu> Message-ID: <3E95745D.3050606@cilux.org> > > Sorry, I haven't got a clue how to help you. I spent hours > investigating the duplicate keystrokes problem many months ago. I > described some of what I learned in the following email: > > http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00195.html Yup: as my original email indicated with the Google link, I have read the history!! > > > All I could see is that for certain instances of Windows keypress > messages we were generating two keystrokes in the X Client with the > focus. I followed this as low as I could with gdb and it was always a > single keystroke as far as I could see, but it magically turned into > two keystrokes at some level beyond where I could look. I speculated > that perhaps this was something in the MI layer trying to do an > "autorepeat" for us, which we don't want it to do. It could be the > delay between the down message and the up message that is causing > this. But, like I said, I looked through almost all of the code and > nowhere could I find a part that looped and created extra keypresses > in the X Client. > In support of your conclusion, I tried a simple 'xset r off'. This fixes the problem for me (or, at least, makes it so much reduced that I haven't seen it yet), and, of course, I still get key repeats off Windows. Thanks for replying; I still find it hard to believe that this is such a rare problem that it is given low priority. Must be one of my '.*' files that's making it worse! Cheers Duncan Cragg > >> Since there's been no response to this, I thought I'd add a little >> more detail in the hope of >> triggerring a reaction!!! >> See after this copy-paste of my original email: >> >>> Hello - I've just arrived at this list, so hope I don't break >>> protocol in any way!! >>> >>> I have a problem which can be summarised as 'it's the same as the >>> following past postings': >>> >>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=+site:www.cygwin.com+xfree86+duplicate+keystrokes >>> >>> The discussions there mentioned the infrequency of the problem of >>> duplicate keystrokes for the respondents - a couple of times a day. >>> >>> I, however, am getting this problem all the time: as in, every five >>> commands or so, or every five edit keystrokes....!!!! >>> >>> Am I alone? >>> >>> Am I doing something odd? >>> >>> This happens on both my work and home installations (work is 1G, >>> home is 500M laptop; home has VNC running which I can see would make >>> this worse, but work is not overloaded). Both installations are >>> out-of-the-box, running twm. I can supply more details (.Xmodmap, >>> .twmrc, .Xdefaults, etc.) if someone thinks it's relevant. >>> >>> Any help appreciated! >>> >>> >>> Duncan Cragg >>> >> So my work machine is NT and this problem only manifests when doing >> an ssh to one of my home machines and running up an editor. It's bad >> enough that it's intolerable for editing - repeated keystrokes >> occurring every 10 or so. >> >> At home it's much worse - this machine is running Windows 2000. Like >> I said, it's a 500Mhz and running VNC - but I've tried turning off >> some of the VNC checkboxes, without any improvement. VNC is only >> using a tiny bit of CPUanyway. I can't see a 'disable VNC' checkbox >> or option anywhere to completely switch it off though. I get >> repeated chars even on a bash prompt on the local machine - and it's >> about every five or so keystrokes, biased towards carriage returns >> and big events like shifting down half a page. It occurs equally on >> ssh's to other machines on local xterms as to xterms launched from >> those machines. >> >> The thing these setups have in common is the .xinitrc, .twmrc, >> .Xdefaults and .Xmodmap files. Can anyone suggest one of these to >> start adjusting? I can supply relevant sections - if anyone has a >> clue what's relevant!! >> >> Thanks in advance for any help with this one!! >> >> OK - I'll look at building from source and fiddling with code, if >> that'll prove I'm serious!! I'm going to have to get Exceed (shput!) >> if I can't resolve this... If no-one responds to this email, I'll >> keep the list informed of how I'm getting on. It'll be a riveting >> saga, I'm sure... =0) Oh - if we can fix that problem where >> alt-Tabbing into or out of Xfree splatters tabs over the in-focus >> window, it'll be a bonus. This has been suggested as related in the >> above threads... >> >> >> Duncan Cragg >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Apr 10 13:39:00 2003 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 13:39:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Pedro wrote: > I have the a simlar problem (instead with wmaker i do have it once the > window server is runnig and I open a xterm) , but trying to find the spanish > keyboard. > Following the previous email I have replaced > # Option "XkbLayout" "de" with > Option "XkbLayout" "es" > > But it does not work properly, I still have the us keyboard > Could anyboy help me, What does the logfile (/tmp/Xwinrl.log) tell? Do you have the xkb definitions in /etc/X11/xkb and a symlink to /etc/X11/xkb in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb? bye ago From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Apr 10 14:04:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:04:00 -0000 Subject: Duplicate Keystrokes - Again, Again! [Alan Hourihane, please comment] In-Reply-To: <3E95745D.3050606@cilux.org> References: <3E8C5A8F.50100@cilux.org> <3E90AEA7.1060802@cilux.org> <3E90C286.8090909@msu.edu> <3E95745D.3050606@cilux.org> Message-ID: <3E9579FE.3030402@msu.edu> Duncan, Duncan Cragg wrote: > >> >> Sorry, I haven't got a clue how to help you. I spent hours >> investigating the duplicate keystrokes problem many months ago. I >> described some of what I learned in the following email: >> >> http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00195.html > > > > Yup: as my original email indicated with the Google link, I have read > the history!! > I know, I just wanted to make sure that you had read that particular message. >> >> >> All I could see is that for certain instances of Windows keypress >> messages we were generating two keystrokes in the X Client with the >> focus. I followed this as low as I could with gdb and it was always a >> single keystroke as far as I could see, but it magically turned into >> two keystrokes at some level beyond where I could look. I speculated >> that perhaps this was something in the MI layer trying to do an >> "autorepeat" for us, which we don't want it to do. It could be the >> delay between the down message and the up message that is causing >> this. But, like I said, I looked through almost all of the code and >> nowhere could I find a part that looped and created extra keypresses >> in the X Client. >> > > In support of your conclusion, I tried a simple 'xset r off'. This > fixes the problem for me (or, at least, makes it so much reduced that I > haven't seen it yet), and, of course, I still get key repeats off Windows. > > Thanks for replying; I still find it hard to believe that this is such a > rare problem that it is given low priority. Must be one of my '.*' files > that's making it worse! > Ah ha! You have found the mysterious repeating of keys that I have been looking for! I kept saying, "I give up... must be some sort of internal repeat mechanism". My Google searches for such a mechanism kept coming up empty... but with "xset r" I was able to find out that xset uses the XF86Misc extension to set the repeat rate, among other things. I started working on turning off the repeat rate in the server initialization, but I ran into a problem. See, we don't have the XF86MISC extension compiled in, so I can't figure out how xset is causing an effect when it sets the repeat rate. Furthermore, I have looked at the hw/xfree86/common/ implementation of xf86SetKbdRate... most of them use setb () or ioctl ()'s which wouldn't seem to apply to use. My understanding of setb () is that it is used to set flags in hardware... but I could be wrong. [Alan, please comment:] Does anyone know if setb () in this case is just setting a hard-wired memory address used by the X Server to store the repeat rate internally? Thanks for your investigative work, Harold > Cheers > > > Duncan Cragg > > >> >>> Since there's been no response to this, I thought I'd add a little >>> more detail in the hope of >>> triggerring a reaction!!! >>> See after this copy-paste of my original email: >>> >>>> Hello - I've just arrived at this list, so hope I don't break >>>> protocol in any way!! >>>> >>>> I have a problem which can be summarised as 'it's the same as the >>>> following past postings': >>>> >>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=+site:www.cygwin.com+xfree86+duplicate+keystrokes >>>> >>>> >>>> The discussions there mentioned the infrequency of the problem of >>>> duplicate keystrokes for the respondents - a couple of times a day. >>>> >>>> I, however, am getting this problem all the time: as in, every five >>>> commands or so, or every five edit keystrokes....!!!! >>>> >>>> Am I alone? >>>> >>>> Am I doing something odd? >>>> >>>> This happens on both my work and home installations (work is 1G, >>>> home is 500M laptop; home has VNC running which I can see would make >>>> this worse, but work is not overloaded). Both installations are >>>> out-of-the-box, running twm. I can supply more details (.Xmodmap, >>>> .twmrc, .Xdefaults, etc.) if someone thinks it's relevant. >>>> >>>> Any help appreciated! >>>> >>>> >>>> Duncan Cragg >>>> >>> So my work machine is NT and this problem only manifests when doing >>> an ssh to one of my home machines and running up an editor. It's bad >>> enough that it's intolerable for editing - repeated keystrokes >>> occurring every 10 or so. >>> >>> At home it's much worse - this machine is running Windows 2000. Like >>> I said, it's a 500Mhz and running VNC - but I've tried turning off >>> some of the VNC checkboxes, without any improvement. VNC is only >>> using a tiny bit of CPUanyway. I can't see a 'disable VNC' checkbox >>> or option anywhere to completely switch it off though. I get >>> repeated chars even on a bash prompt on the local machine - and it's >>> about every five or so keystrokes, biased towards carriage returns >>> and big events like shifting down half a page. It occurs equally on >>> ssh's to other machines on local xterms as to xterms launched from >>> those machines. >>> >>> The thing these setups have in common is the .xinitrc, .twmrc, >>> .Xdefaults and .Xmodmap files. Can anyone suggest one of these to >>> start adjusting? I can supply relevant sections - if anyone has a >>> clue what's relevant!! >>> >>> Thanks in advance for any help with this one!! >>> >>> OK - I'll look at building from source and fiddling with code, if >>> that'll prove I'm serious!! I'm going to have to get Exceed (shput!) >>> if I can't resolve this... If no-one responds to this email, I'll >>> keep the list informed of how I'm getting on. It'll be a riveting >>> saga, I'm sure... =0) Oh - if we can fix that problem where >>> alt-Tabbing into or out of Xfree splatters tabs over the in-focus >>> window, it'll be a bonus. This has been suggested as related in the >>> above threads... >>> >>> >>> Duncan Cragg >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > From achang@mdacc.tmc.edu Thu Apr 10 14:39:00 2003 From: achang@mdacc.tmc.edu (Allen Chang) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:39:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 remote session failed via XDMCP from a w2000 host Message-ID: <3E958202.9070106@mdacc.tmc.edu> To whom it may concern: I just installed Cygwin/XFree86 a week ago and it was working great. I could use Cygwin/XFree86 to access any of our Unix/Linux servers via XDMCP. But, it stops working now. I will get the following message at the end of "/tmp/XWinr1.log" when I issuse the following command from Cygwin DOS shell: XWin -query $name ($name is a Unix/Linux host) (EE) No primary keyboard configured (==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null)" Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap winBlockHandler - Releasing pmServerStarted winBlockHandler - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned Fatal server error: XDMCP fatal error: Session failed Session 324128198 failed for display 0.0.0.0:0: Cannot open display Here is my system information: OS Name Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional Version 5.0.2195 Service Pack 3 Build 2195 Installed Cygwin infomation: CYGWIN_NT-5.0 -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: cygcheck.out URL: From nhughes@iastate.edu Thu Apr 10 15:12:00 2003 From: nhughes@iastate.edu (Hughes, Noah) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:12:00 -0000 Subject: Strange Question: Xfree86 on Terminal Services(RDP) Message-ID: <3303663DAAB3F747A35A38278EFC92248B77@myles.eng.iastate.edu> I just tired running locally in 8bit color using Xwin.exe -fullscreen -depth 8 & and I got the same results as the Terminal Server. What I am doing is running matlab over the X11 connection. Every time I try to run a demo in Matlab the X11 session crashes. The matlab graphical demos in particular. --------------------------------------------------------- Noah Hughes Systems Administrator Engineering Computing Support Services nhughes@iastate.edu -----Original Message----- From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 4:01 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Strange Question: Xfree86 on Terminal Services(RDP) Noah, When you run with 8 bit color in windowed (non-fullscreen) mode the engine is forced to be engine 1, which is Shadow GDI DIB. If you look at the log file, you will see a report that the engine passed on the command line is being ignored for that very reason. GDI DIB is the only engine that supports a mostly correct color pallette in 8 bit color. DirectDraw forces several of the colors in an 8 bit pallette to be reserved, which causes a problem with the way that X needs the pallette to be allocated. So, DirectDraw 8 bit color is only available in fullscreen mode. With all of that said, I have no idea what the problem is. I would like you to run XWin.exe in 8 bit color on the console of the Terminal Server. Please report your results. If it is stable on the console then I can maybe add some printf's to figure out what is happening. If not, then we can conclude that the video driver for your video card is buggy or you have some similar sort of problem. Harold Hughes, Noah wrote: > To add to what I said the 16bit and 8bit color is the color depth for the > Terminal Server Session. Does anyone know why running at 8bit color would > crash X? > > Thanks > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hughes, Noah [mailto:nhughes@iastate.edu] > > There is only one cygwin1.dll on the system, however after more testing I > found that X-server at 16bit color is stable and works, but at 8bit color it > still crashes. > > Also I have tired engine 1-4 and I get the same results. > > Thanks > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Noah Hughes > Systems Administrator > Engineering Computing Support Services > nhughes@iastate.edu > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:13 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Strange Question: Xfree86 on Terminal Services(RDP) > > Noah, > > Your problem is likely unrelated to RDP. > > To test this hypothesis, login to the console of the Terminal Server and > run Cygwin/XFree86. See if you can make it crash. I suspect that it > will crash just as easily on console as it will through RDP. > > Now, what I suspect is that you have multiple versions and copies of > cygwin1.dll on your Terminal Server. Lots of projects come with a copy > of cygwin1.dll and it doesn't matter that many of them may not appear to > be in your path. You need to make sure that there is one copy of > cygwin1.dll on your machine, and one copy alone. There is more > information about this topic here: > > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-status-access-vio > lation > > > At the risk of being crude, I have told many people this before and it > often results in some sort of response claiming that having multiple > copies of cygwin1.dll on their machine shouldn't be causing problems for > them. I then restate what I said, they delete the extra copies, and > everything works. Please, if you have multiple copies of cygwin1.dll, > take my word for it that they are the culprit. If not, we will need > some more information to figure out what is causing your problem. > > > Harold > > Hughes, Noah wrote: > >>We have students that logon to a Terminal Server and sometimes want to use >>unix resources. We have been using X-Win32 and I thought I would give >>Xfree86 a try. From my computer cygwin-Xfree86 works fine. From the >>Terminal Server using cygwin-Xfree86 we experience no stability and many >>crashes. >> >> >>The XWinrl.log files did not have anything suspect, however, I did find a >>stack dump (below). This happens whether I am using the Test79 Server or >>the latest Standard Xwin.exe Server. >> >> >>Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=0041E2D5 >>eax=102DF598 ebx=B0558B00 ecx=00000001 edx=104DA0E4 esi=10008FFF >>edi=10450B8C >>ebp=0022FE18 esp=0022FDF0 program=C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin-Test79.exe >>cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs=0000 ss=0023 >> >>Stack trace: >> >>Frame Function Args >> >>0022FE18 0041E2D5 (00000001, 00000000, 00000029, 00000000) >>0022FE48 0041E1E8 (4020004B, 20000009, 104DA0A0, 10450A48) >>0022FE68 0042C156 (104DA0A0, 00000010, 0022FEA8, 00408022) >>0022FE78 00429DC3 (10450A48, 00000056, 00000000, 00000000) >>0022FEA8 00408022 (00000002, 00000000, 615F2058, 00000001) >>0022FEF0 0040179A (00000004, 615F2058, 100F0328, 0022FF24) >>0022FF40 61007408 (610D1F58, FFFFFFFE, 00000054, 610D1E7C) >>0022FF90 610076ED (00000000, 00000000, FFFFFFFF, 80430990) >>0022FFB0 006FD222 (00401490, 037F0009, 0022FFF0, 77EA847C) >>0022FFC0 0040103C (0022E7A0, 0022F840, 7FFDF000, 0022E8C8) >>0022FFF0 77EA847C (00401000, 00000000, 000000C8, 00000100) >> >>End of stack trace >> >> >>Does anyone have an idea of how to increase the stability of > > cygwin-Xfree86 > >>in a Terminal Service session. >> >> >> >>Thanks >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------- >>Noah Hughes >>Systems Administrator >>Engineering Computing Support Services >>nhughes@iastate.edu >> >> > > > From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Apr 10 15:31:00 2003 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:31:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 remote session failed via XDMCP from a w2000 host In-Reply-To: <3E958202.9070106@mdacc.tmc.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Allen Chang wrote: > XWin -query $name ($name is a Unix/Linux host) try XWin -query $name -from localip bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From pedrobelchi@yahoo.es Thu Apr 10 15:42:00 2003 From: pedrobelchi@yahoo.es (Pedro) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:42:00 -0000 Subject: Keyboard Message-ID: Hello again, >> I have the a simlar problem (instead with wmaker i do have it once the >> window server is runnig and I open a xterm) , but trying to find the spanish >> keyboard. >> Following the previous email I have replaced >> # Option "XkbLayout" "de" with >> Option "XkbLayout" "es" >> >> But it does not work properly, I still have the us keyboard >> Could anyboy help me, >What does the logfile (/tmp/Xwinrl.log) tell? I gues everything is Ok, but attached you will find it >Do you have the xkb definitions in>/etc/X11/xkb I gues I have them, but I am not sure how to check excatly what this directory need. >and a symlink to /etc/X11/xkb in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb? Yes, Thanks a lot, -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: XWinrl.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2578 bytes Desc: not available URL: From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Apr 10 16:17:00 2003 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 16:17:00 -0000 Subject: Keyboard In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Pedro wrote: > >What does the logfile (/tmp/Xwinrl.log) tell? > I gues everything is Ok, but attached you will find it > > >Do you have the xkb definitions in>/etc/X11/xkb > I gues I have them, but I am not sure how to check excatly what this > directory need. can you please run xkbcomp -xkm -m es /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/de.xkm for me it reports a lot of warnings like Warning: No symbols defined for (keycode 244) bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From pedrobelchi@yahoo.es Thu Apr 10 16:41:00 2003 From: pedrobelchi@yahoo.es (Pedro) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 16:41:00 -0000 Subject: Keyboard Message-ID: >> >What does the logfile (/tmp/Xwinrl.log) tell? >> I gues everything is Ok, but attached you will find it >> >> >Do you have the xkb definitions in>/etc/X11/xkb >> I gues I have them, but I am not sure how to check excatly what this >> directory need. >can you please run >xkbcomp -xkm -m es /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/de.xkm >for me it reports a lot of warnings like >Warning: No symbols defined for (keycode 244) I obtain more or less the same, a lot of warnigns , the last one: Warning: No symbols defined for (keycode 255) Thanks a lot, Pedro From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Apr 10 17:33:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 17:33:00 -0000 Subject: Strange Question: Xfree86 on Terminal Services(RDP) In-Reply-To: <3303663DAAB3F747A35A38278EFC92248B77@myles.eng.iastate.edu> References: <3303663DAAB3F747A35A38278EFC92248B77@myles.eng.iastate.edu> Message-ID: <3E95AAFA.7040303@msu.edu> Noah, So, you are running XWin.exe on your own machine now, not in the machine that is providing Terminal Services? I will assume that that is the case. What OS are you running it on now? Could you check /tmp/XWinrl.log and see what engine it reported to be running with? In fact, just send in /tmp/XWinrl.log. (Notice, XWin.log is used by older versions which you should not have.) Harold Hughes, Noah wrote: > I just tired running locally in 8bit color using > Xwin.exe -fullscreen -depth 8 & > and I got the same results as the Terminal Server. > > What I am doing is running matlab over the X11 connection. Every time I try > to run a demo in Matlab the X11 session crashes. The matlab graphical demos > in particular. > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Noah Hughes > Systems Administrator > Engineering Computing Support Services > nhughes@iastate.edu > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 4:01 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Strange Question: Xfree86 on Terminal Services(RDP) > > Noah, > > When you run with 8 bit color in windowed (non-fullscreen) mode the > engine is forced to be engine 1, which is Shadow GDI DIB. If you look > at the log file, you will see a report that the engine passed on the > command line is being ignored for that very reason. GDI DIB is the only > engine that supports a mostly correct color pallette in 8 bit color. > DirectDraw forces several of the colors in an 8 bit pallette to be > reserved, which causes a problem with the way that X needs the pallette > to be allocated. So, DirectDraw 8 bit color is only available in > fullscreen mode. > > > With all of that said, I have no idea what the problem is. > > > I would like you to run XWin.exe in 8 bit color on the console of the > Terminal Server. Please report your results. If it is stable on the > console then I can maybe add some printf's to figure out what is > happening. If not, then we can conclude that the video driver for your > video card is buggy or you have some similar sort of problem. > > > Harold > > Hughes, Noah wrote: > >>To add to what I said the 16bit and 8bit color is the color depth for the >>Terminal Server Session. Does anyone know why running at 8bit color would >>crash X? >> >>Thanks >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Hughes, Noah [mailto:nhughes@iastate.edu] >> >>There is only one cygwin1.dll on the system, however after more testing I >>found that X-server at 16bit color is stable and works, but at 8bit color > > it > >>still crashes. >> >>Also I have tired engine 1-4 and I get the same results. >> >>Thanks >> >>-------------------------------------------------------- >>Noah Hughes >>Systems Administrator >>Engineering Computing Support Services >>nhughes@iastate.edu >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] >>Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:13 AM >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>Subject: Re: Strange Question: Xfree86 on Terminal Services(RDP) >> >>Noah, >> >>Your problem is likely unrelated to RDP. >> >>To test this hypothesis, login to the console of the Terminal Server and >>run Cygwin/XFree86. See if you can make it crash. I suspect that it >>will crash just as easily on console as it will through RDP. >> >>Now, what I suspect is that you have multiple versions and copies of >>cygwin1.dll on your Terminal Server. Lots of projects come with a copy >>of cygwin1.dll and it doesn't matter that many of them may not appear to >>be in your path. You need to make sure that there is one copy of >>cygwin1.dll on your machine, and one copy alone. There is more >>information about this topic here: >> >> > > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-status-access-vio > >>lation >> >> >>At the risk of being crude, I have told many people this before and it >>often results in some sort of response claiming that having multiple >>copies of cygwin1.dll on their machine shouldn't be causing problems for >>them. I then restate what I said, they delete the extra copies, and >>everything works. Please, if you have multiple copies of cygwin1.dll, >>take my word for it that they are the culprit. If not, we will need >>some more information to figure out what is causing your problem. >> >> >>Harold >> >>Hughes, Noah wrote: >> >> >>>We have students that logon to a Terminal Server and sometimes want to use >>>unix resources. We have been using X-Win32 and I thought I would give >>>Xfree86 a try. From my computer cygwin-Xfree86 works fine. From the >>>Terminal Server using cygwin-Xfree86 we experience no stability and many >>>crashes. >>> >>> >>>The XWinrl.log files did not have anything suspect, however, I did find a >>>stack dump (below). This happens whether I am using the Test79 Server or >>>the latest Standard Xwin.exe Server. >>> >>> >>>Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=0041E2D5 >>>eax=102DF598 ebx=B0558B00 ecx=00000001 edx=104DA0E4 esi=10008FFF >>>edi=10450B8C >>>ebp=0022FE18 esp=0022FDF0 program=C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin-Test79.exe >>>cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs=0000 ss=0023 >>> >>>Stack trace: >>> >>>Frame Function Args >>> >>>0022FE18 0041E2D5 (00000001, 00000000, 00000029, 00000000) >>>0022FE48 0041E1E8 (4020004B, 20000009, 104DA0A0, 10450A48) >>>0022FE68 0042C156 (104DA0A0, 00000010, 0022FEA8, 00408022) >>>0022FE78 00429DC3 (10450A48, 00000056, 00000000, 00000000) >>>0022FEA8 00408022 (00000002, 00000000, 615F2058, 00000001) >>>0022FEF0 0040179A (00000004, 615F2058, 100F0328, 0022FF24) >>>0022FF40 61007408 (610D1F58, FFFFFFFE, 00000054, 610D1E7C) >>>0022FF90 610076ED (00000000, 00000000, FFFFFFFF, 80430990) >>>0022FFB0 006FD222 (00401490, 037F0009, 0022FFF0, 77EA847C) >>>0022FFC0 0040103C (0022E7A0, 0022F840, 7FFDF000, 0022E8C8) >>>0022FFF0 77EA847C (00401000, 00000000, 000000C8, 00000100) >>> >>>End of stack trace >>> >>> >>>Does anyone have an idea of how to increase the stability of >> >>cygwin-Xfree86 >> >> >>>in a Terminal Service session. >>> >>> >>> >>>Thanks >>> >>> >>>--------------------------------------------------------- >>>Noah Hughes >>>Systems Administrator >>>Engineering Computing Support Services >>>nhughes@iastate.edu >>> >>> >> >> >> > From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Apr 10 17:44:00 2003 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 17:44:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard In-Reply-To: Message-ID: nuno Cerqueira wrote: > KeyboardType: 4: IBM enhanced (101- or 102-key) keyboard > keyboardLayout: 00000816 And the patch for portuguese and brazilian keyboards --- winconfig.ol Thu Apr 10 19:41:54 2003 +++ winconfig.c Thu Apr 10 19:39:08 2003 @@ -233,6 +233,8 @@ {0x40c, 4, "pc105", "fr", NULL, NULL, "French (Standard)"}, {0x80c, 4, "pc105", "be", NULL, NULL, "French (Belgian)"}, {0x410, 4, "pc105", "it", NULL, NULL, "Italian"}, + {0x416, 4, "pc105", "pt", NULL, NULL, "Portuguese (Brazil)"}, + {0x816, 4, "pc105", "pt", NULL, NULL, "Portuguese (Portugal)"}, {0x41d, 4, "pc105", "se", NULL, NULL, "Swedish (Sweden)"}, {-1, -1, NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL} }; bye ago NP: VNV Nation - Structure -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Apr 10 17:47:00 2003 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 17:47:00 -0000 Subject: Keyboard In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pedro wrote: > I obtain more or less the same, a lot of warnigns , the last one: > > Warning: No symbols defined for (keycode 255) This means the xkb layout definitons are in place and xkbcomp works. I don't know why you've still an us keyboard layout :( NP: VNV Nation - Fearless -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com Thu Apr 10 19:22:00 2003 From: Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com (Cary Jamison) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 19:22:00 -0000 Subject: XWin -clipboard and xwinclip bad highlighting behavior Message-ID: "Harold L Hunt II" wrote in message news:<3E94889E.6020005@msu.edu>... > > I have now realized that the real way to integrate the X and Windows > clipboards is with hooks in the general X server code that call routines > in the Windows-specific code and so forth. It is highly unlikely that > the clipboard integration will require an X client application, and this > removes many of the short comings of the current clipboard application. > For example, the nightmares people have using xwinclip or -clipboard > with XDMCP will go away with server-side code handling the integration. > > I am not sure if the integration would be provided by an X Server > extension or if we would have to have some #ifdef __CYGWIN__ sections in > the general X server code. In any case, I haven't got time to work on > it and I am unlikely to for months, or even forever. Hopefully someone > else will find clipboard integration interesting to them. Do you think Xdarwin has done anything along these lines that would be of benefit? I got this idea from the message that was posted here a couple days ago : http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2003-04/msg00060.html They have probably fought some of the same issues and are trying to genericize their code now. Cary From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Apr 10 19:31:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 19:31:00 -0000 Subject: XWin -clipboard and xwinclip bad highlighting behavior In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E95C68C.1030309@msu.edu> Cary, Yes, I am aware of the Xdarwin project and I quite often look at their code for ideas. Unfortunately, they have not done anything innovative with clipboard integration. In fact, they are using the cut buffers approach that everyone here complains about whenever I mention it. Futhermore, the original xwinclip used cut buffers and everyone said that that was not the way to do things, so we don't do it that way anymore. Harold Cary Jamison wrote: > "Harold L Hunt II" wrote in message > news:<3E94889E.6020005@msu.edu>... > >>I have now realized that the real way to integrate the X and Windows >>clipboards is with hooks in the general X server code that call > > routines > >>in the Windows-specific code and so forth. It is highly unlikely that > > >>the clipboard integration will require an X client application, and > > this > >>removes many of the short comings of the current clipboard > > application. > >> For example, the nightmares people have using xwinclip or -clipboard > > >>with XDMCP will go away with server-side code handling the > > integration. > >>I am not sure if the integration would be provided by an X Server >>extension or if we would have to have some #ifdef __CYGWIN__ sections > > in > >>the general X server code. In any case, I haven't got time to work on > > >>it and I am unlikely to for months, or even forever. Hopefully > > someone > >>else will find clipboard integration interesting to them. > > > Do you think Xdarwin has done anything along these lines that would be > of benefit? I got this idea from the message that was posted here a > couple days ago : > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2003-04/msg00060.html > > They have probably fought some of the same issues and are trying to > genericize their code now. > > > Cary From gp@raaengineers.com Thu Apr 10 21:32:00 2003 From: gp@raaengineers.com (Gerald Pekmezi) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 21:32:00 -0000 Subject: opendx on cygwin Message-ID: I saw a discussion, about this earlier. It appeared the problem I am coming across did not occur. After I install the opendx binaries, the program will start fine. However if I try to import files I get an error that says : _dxl_ReadPortNumber: Bad file descriptor timeout waiting for response from dx Internal error detected at MacroDefinition.C":631 Would appreciate any help on this. From ronald@landheer.com Fri Apr 11 14:24:00 2003 From: ronald@landheer.com (Ronald Landheer-Cieslak) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:24:00 -0000 Subject: Love Cygwin, Why do I need Xfree86?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Apr 2003, zzapper wrote: > >There are some packages that have X11 versions that need X11 to run. > I've not been on "real" Unix for 7 years so I've never even heard of > these X11 Apps. Where can I get an overview? Just take a look in Setup under the XFree86 categorie - besides XFree itself, a bunch of apps that need X are listed there. There's also the X-versions of diverse apps (like ghostscript, for example).. rlc FWIW, you can find all the information you want in the archives of http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/ and here: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ also: this thread is off-topic here. I've redirected it to cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com and moved cygwin at cygwin dot com to bcc. Please make sure you don't reply to cygwin at cygwin dot com. From bijumaillist@yahoo.com Fri Apr 11 19:35:00 2003 From: bijumaillist@yahoo.com (Biju G C) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 19:35:00 -0000 Subject: Love Cygwin, Why do I need Xfree86?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030411193535.52698.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> See even more at http://cygnome.sourceforge.net/ http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net http://lassauge.free.fr/cygwin/en_cygwin.htm http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley/1596/en/cygwin.html --- Ronald Landheer-Cieslak wrote: > On Fri, 11 Apr 2003, zzapper wrote: > > >There are some packages that have X11 versions that need X11 to run. > > I've not been on "real" Unix for 7 years so I've never even heard of > > these X11 Apps. Where can I get an overview? > Just take a look in Setup under the XFree86 categorie - besides XFree > itself, a bunch of apps that need X are listed there. > > There's also the X-versions of diverse apps (like ghostscript, for > example).. > > rlc > > FWIW, you can find all the information you want in the archives of > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/ > and here: > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ > > also: this thread is off-topic here. I've redirected it to > cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com and moved cygwin at cygwin dot com to bcc. > Please make sure you don't reply to cygwin at cygwin dot com. > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com From bilinc6@yahoo.com Fri Apr 11 23:26:00 2003 From: bilinc6@yahoo.com (bilinc6@yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 23:26:00 -0000 Subject: C / C++ editor Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030411182247.00b1a3f8@localhost> I need a C/C++ editor running in xfree. But, it must let me to inspection step-by-step.. Thanks a lot... bilinc6 From cant_reed@yahoo.com Fri Apr 11 23:40:00 2003 From: cant_reed@yahoo.com (Cant) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 23:40:00 -0000 Subject: Love Cygwin, Why do I need Xfree86?? References: Message-ID: well thats easy to answer if you want to connect or host an xserver for one reason... plus.. why not... it pisses bill gates off... [; Uzytkownik "Ronald Landheer-Cieslak" napisal w wiadomosci news:Pine.LNX.4.44.0304111531440.18674-100000@localhost.localdomain... > On Fri, 11 Apr 2003, zzapper wrote: > > >There are some packages that have X11 versions that need X11 to run. > > I've not been on "real" Unix for 7 years so I've never even heard of > > these X11 Apps. Where can I get an overview? > Just take a look in Setup under the XFree86 categorie - besides XFree > itself, a bunch of apps that need X are listed there. > > There's also the X-versions of diverse apps (like ghostscript, for > example).. > > rlc > > FWIW, you can find all the information you want in the archives of > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/ > and here: > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ > > also: this thread is off-topic here. I've redirected it to > cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com and moved cygwin at cygwin dot com to bcc. > Please make sure you don't reply to cygwin at cygwin dot com. > > > From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Sat Apr 12 13:12:00 2003 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 13:12:00 -0000 Subject: C / C++ editor In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030411182247.00b1a3f8@localhost> Message-ID: Emacs or xemacs? -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of bilinc6@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 7:26 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: C / C++ editor I need a C/C++ editor running in xfree. But, it must let me to inspection step-by-step.. Thanks a lot... bilinc6 From pedrobelchi@yahoo.es Sat Apr 12 14:38:00 2003 From: pedrobelchi@yahoo.es (Pedro) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 14:38:00 -0000 Subject: Keyboard Message-ID: <3E981703.6090205@yahoo.es> Hello again, May be this info can help: I have installed cygwin-xfree on a compact armada notebook, and the keyboard works nice, even when there is not XFree86 config file. I have tried that on the desktop pc, and i still do have an us keyboard. In case this info do not help, please could you give me a couple of advises (or www address) to compile the spanish keyboard on the desktop pc? Thanks Pedro >> I obtain more or less the same, a lot of warnigns , the last one: >> >> Warning: No symbols defined for (keycode 255) > >This means the xkb layout definitons are in place and xkbcomp works. >I don't know why you've still an us keyboard layout :( -- From hoten@jstel.net Sat Apr 12 15:05:00 2003 From: hoten@jstel.net (situ) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 15:05:00 -0000 Subject: mobile phone accessories Message-ID: Dear Sirs/Madam: Through the CETRA , we have learned your name and address. 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I have tried that on the desktop pc, and i still do have an us keyboard. > In case this info do not help, please could you give me a couple of advises (or www address) to compile the spanish keyboard > on the desktop pc? The xserver compiles the keymap on startup. If xkbcomp works on the command line, it should also work for the server. So I'm stuck and have no idea why it does not work. Just a few things to look after: - is /tmp is a binary mount? run mount an see if there is an entry for /tmp with binmode or an entry for / with binmode. If not, then mount at least the /tmp directory in binmode. - the xserver uses /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkbcomp (not the one in /usr/X11R6/bin). Try the xkbcomp commandline with this binary. bye ago NP: grauzone.03-02-03 -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From joshudson@hotmail.com Sat Apr 12 19:33:00 2003 From: joshudson@hotmail.com (Joshua Hudson) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:33:00 -0000 Subject: XWin starts then stops Message-ID: What does it mean when XWin starts, flashes a window border, and exits with code 1? _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From rmugnere@hotmail.com Sat Apr 12 20:14:00 2003 From: rmugnere@hotmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?B?UmFwaGHrbCBNdWduZXJldA==?=) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 20:14:00 -0000 Subject: transparent + tinted terminal aterm compiled & works OK Message-ID: Hi, I have compiled the Afterstep terminal ATERM (0.4.2) under the latest Cygwin and Xfree86. To get rid of the bug that causes aterm to use > 90% of cpu and not refresh properly, pick-up the latest source file command.c (v1.9) at this address: "http://cvs.afterstep.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/aterm/src/?only_with_tag=HEAD" The bug was fixed monthes ago but never released. Cheers Rapha??l _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger : discutez en direct avec vos amis ! http://www.msn.fr/msger/default.asp From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Sat Apr 12 22:02:00 2003 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 22:02:00 -0000 Subject: transparent + tinted terminal aterm compiled & works OK In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Rapha??l, Cool! Is the "Term window only displays contents when you move or resize it" bug also fixed? Thanks -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Rapha??l Mugneret Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 4:15 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: transparent + tinted terminal aterm compiled & works OK Hi, I have compiled the Afterstep terminal ATERM (0.4.2) under the latest Cygwin and Xfree86. To get rid of the bug that causes aterm to use > 90% of cpu and not refresh properly, pick-up the latest source file command.c (v1.9) at this address: "http://cvs.afterstep.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/aterm/src/?only_with_tag=HEAD" The bug was fixed monthes ago but never released. Cheers Rapha??l _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger : discutez en direct avec vos amis ! http://www.msn.fr/msger/default.asp From bupooc@hypnotist.com Sun Apr 13 02:18:00 2003 From: bupooc@hypnotist.com (Natalie Vixen) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 02:18:00 -0000 Subject: Angst Message-ID: <20030412122025.hkGvsTStP5Sl@hypnotist.com> http://peedoumook.cryingirls.com From fxian@fxian.mine.nu Sun Apr 13 03:18:00 2003 From: fxian@fxian.mine.nu (Feng Xian) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 03:18:00 -0000 Subject: XWin starts then stops References: Message-ID: <004a01c3016b$3cc6b610$6402a8c0@xjzhou> once when I have the /tmp and/or /tmp/.X11-unix permission wrong, the xwin won't start for different user if they can not access those directories. maybe that's the problem? good luck! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Hudson" To: Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 3:33 PM Subject: XWin starts then stops > What does it mean when XWin starts, flashes a window border, and exits > with code 1? > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > From bestofbreed441@hotmail.com Sun Apr 13 14:16:00 2003 From: bestofbreed441@hotmail.com (Duhee Lee) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 14:16:00 -0000 Subject: Can not open a session... help me..... Message-ID: Hello! I failed when I try to open an XDMCP session with a remote linux machine(redhat 8). This is the log message. Can you give me any clue? Thanks, Duhee Lee $ cat /tmp/XWinrl.log ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0 _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root (EE) Unable to locate/open config file InitOutput - Error reading config file winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0000001f InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pixel winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1024 h: 768 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1024 h: 768 winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l 0 b 715 t 0 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Returning winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Creating primary surface winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Created primary surface winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Attached clipper to primary surface winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 2036 winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - Created shadow pitch: 2036 winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - Created shadow stride: 1018 winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f $ winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winFinishScreenInitFB - returning winScreenInit - returning InitOutput - Returning. (EE) No primary keyboard configured (==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(n ull)" winBlockHandler - Releasing pmServerStarted winBlockHandler - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned AUDIT: Sun Apr 13 23:10:18 2003: 696 XWin: client 1 rejected from IP 192.168.2.2 port 32833 Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: -1 Fatal server error: XDMCP fatal error: Session declined Maximum number of open sessions from your ho st reached _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From jay@JaySmith.com Sun Apr 13 16:58:00 2003 From: jay@JaySmith.com (Jay Smith) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 16:58:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip: non-ascii characters truncate copy/paste Message-ID: <3E999769.8060501@JaySmith.com> Hi, My apologies if this has been previously discussed, but have not found a recent reference to this problem. When copying/pasting text containing non-ascii characters, such as ??, or ??, or publishers/curly quote marks, etc., when I do the paste the content is truncated stating at where the non-ascii character would have been; neither that character or anything after it is pasted. (I have no way of knowing what was copied into the buffer). I see this problem when copying/pasting within my linux applications (specifically Mozilla mail) or when I copy from Mozilla Mail to a Windows 95 application like Notepad. Since a large portion of my correspondence is with non-American people, this is a serious productivity problem for me. My environment is: Windows 95 running Cygwin .... XFree86-base 4.2.0-1 -lib 4.2.0-5 -xserv 4.2.0-28 (that's what it says: 28) -xwinclip 4.2.0-8 I am using XDM to get to RedHat Linux 8 which has been kept up to date, using up2date, to just BEFORE the point a couple weeks ago that they screwed things up with the glib disaster. (I feel like I have been Microsoft'ed; my faith in RH has been devastated.) Any ideas/suggestions or fixes? If more environment info is needed, please advise. Jay -- Jay Smith e-mail: Jay@JaySmith.com mailto:Jay@JaySmith.com website: http://www.JaySmith.com Jay Smith & Associates P.O. Box 650 Snow Camp, NC 27349 USA Phone: Int+US+336-376-9991 Toll-Free Phone in US & Canada: 1-800-447-8267 Fax: Int+US+336-376-6750 From jay@JaySmith.com Sun Apr 13 17:21:00 2003 From: jay@JaySmith.com (Jay Smith) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 17:21:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip: unable to paste INTO a highlighted area (linux -> linux and windows -> linux) Message-ID: <3E999CBD.9030008@JaySmith.com> Hi, I know that "copy highlighting" has been discussed to death, but I have not found any recent references to the problem of, WITHIN LINUX or from WINDOWS TO LINUX, not being able to do a copy and *then* highlight an area and *paste* into the highlighted to *replace* the highlighted text. If I copy/paste from Linux -> Windows95, it works properly, I can highlight source text and then highlight the target and paste into the target thus replacing the highlighted text in the target with the source text. However, if I am copy/pasting between two LINUX applications, i.e. Mozilla Mail, anytime I highlight anything, that goes into the "buffer". If I highlight target text that I want to replace with source text I have copied, the source text that I originally copied is gone and instead the text in the target is in the buffer. If I am copy/pasting from Windows95 -> Linux I also have the problem. The bottom line is that for linux -> linux copy/paste, xwinclip *breaks* the copy/paste behavior in Linux. Without xwinclip, I can highlight target text and replace it with source text that I have copied by highlighting and doing a ctrl-c. I find it odd that this problem has not *seemed* to get more attention. 95% of the copy/paste that I do involves a) copying source text, b) then highlighting another block of text (i.e the target), and c) pasting the copied source text into the highlighted target. Because of this problem, I have to reverse the order of things (not natural) and delete the text in the target area before pasting into the target area. If I am doing repeated pastes of the same content, perhaps into multiple documents, this is a huge pain. I understand that xwinclip seems to use the concept that any text highlighted is automatically copied. I suppose that the reason for this has to do with various applications using different ctrl and alt keystrokes for their own purposes. For example, a ctrl-c in a kshell cancels the command line. However, there really should be a way to deal with this problem. Is there and I have just missed it? Maybe if some ctrl-alt-shift, etc., key was held down while highlighting, that action would block xwinclip from putting the highlighted text into the buffer. My environment is: Windows 95 running Cygwin .... XFree86-base 4.2.0-1 -lib 4.2.0-5 -xserv 4.2.0-28 (that's what it says: 28) -xwinclip 4.2.0-8 I am using XDM to get to RedHat Linux 8 which has been kept up to date, using up2date, to just BEFORE the point a couple weeks ago that they screwed things up with the glib disaster. (I feel like I have been Microsoft'ed; my faith in RH has been devastated.) Any ideas/suggestions or fixes? If more environment info is needed, please advise. Jay -- Jay Smith e-mail: Jay@JaySmith.com mailto:Jay@JaySmith.com website: http://www.JaySmith.com Jay Smith & Associates P.O. Box 650 Snow Camp, NC 27349 USA Phone: Int+US+336-376-9991 Toll-Free Phone in US & Canada: 1-800-447-8267 Fax: Int+US+336-376-6750 From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Sun Apr 13 18:13:00 2003 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 18:13:00 -0000 Subject: Can not open a session... help me..... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Duhee Lee wrote: > winBlockHandler - Releasing pmServerStarted > winBlockHandler - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned > AUDIT: Sun Apr 13 23:10:18 2003: 696 XWin: client 1 rejected from IP > 192.168.2.2 > port 32833 > Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: -1 is 192.168.2.2 your windows or your mandrake host? > Fatal server error: > XDMCP fatal error: Session declined Maximum number of open sessions from > your host reached Misconfigured xdm? What Displaymanager is running on your mandrake host? bye ago NP: grauzone.03-02-03 -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From alexkuklin@niivo.ru Sun Apr 13 18:29:00 2003 From: alexkuklin@niivo.ru (=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CC=C5=CB=D3=C5=CA_=EB=D5=CB=CC=C9=CE?=) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 18:29:00 -0000 Subject: How can I disable/alter Alt-Tab win32 switching behavour? Message-ID: <3E99ACA0.1040508@niivo.ru> Hello Have a need to run X-terminals with minimalistic windows programs running, just XWin in fullscreen. How can I make window manager recieve Alt-Tab/Alt-Shift-Tab pressings? WBR, Alex Kuklin From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Sun Apr 13 19:30:00 2003 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 19:30:00 -0000 Subject: How can I disable/alter Alt-Tab win32 switching behavour? In-Reply-To: <3E99ACA0.1040508@niivo.ru> Message-ID: ????? ????? ?? ???????????? wrote: > Hello > > Have a need to run X-terminals with minimalistic windows programs > running, just XWin in fullscreen. How can I make window manager recieve > Alt-Tab/Alt-Shift-Tab pressings? Windows will always handle taskswitch with alt-tab. You can not disable it. How the window manager handles keys depends on the window manager. Check the documentation and the config files for the window manager. bye ago NP: grauzone.03-02-03 -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From rrschulz@cris.com Sun Apr 13 20:36:00 2003 From: rrschulz@cris.com (Randall R Schulz) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 20:36:00 -0000 Subject: How can I disable/alter Alt-Tab win32 switching behavour? In-Reply-To: References: <3E99ACA0.1040508@niivo.ru> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20030413133345.0212f330@pop3.cris.com> Alexander, At 12:30 2003-04-13, Alexander Gottwald wrote: >??????? ?????? wrote: > > > Hello > > > > Have a need to run X-terminals with minimalistic windows programs > > running, just XWin in fullscreen. How can I make window manager recieve > > Alt-Tab/Alt-Shift-Tab pressings? > >Windows will always handle taskswitch with alt-tab. You can not disable it. >How the window manager handles keys depends on the window manager. Check >the documentation and the config files for the window manager. Gee, that sounds like a challenge... - - - - etc. () However, IANAW32P. Randall Schulz >bye > ago From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Apr 13 23:57:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 23:57:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip: unable to paste INTO a highlighted area (linux -> linux and windows -> linux) In-Reply-To: <3E999CBD.9030008@JaySmith.com> References: <3E999CBD.9030008@JaySmith.com> Message-ID: <3E99F970.8070308@msu.edu> Jay, That is just the way that X is designed. Stupid? Yes. When you select text, you copy it into the buffer, displacing whatever you had just copied before. Harold Jay Smith wrote: > Hi, > > I know that "copy highlighting" has been discussed to death, but I have > not found any recent references to the problem of, WITHIN LINUX or from > WINDOWS TO LINUX, not being able to do a copy and *then* highlight an > area and *paste* into the highlighted to *replace* the highlighted text. > > If I copy/paste from Linux -> Windows95, it works properly, I can > highlight source text and then highlight the target and paste into the > target thus replacing the highlighted text in the target with the source > text. > > However, if I am copy/pasting between two LINUX applications, i.e. > Mozilla Mail, anytime I highlight anything, that goes into the "buffer". > If I highlight target text that I want to replace with source text I > have copied, the source text that I originally copied is gone and > instead the text in the target is in the buffer. > > If I am copy/pasting from Windows95 -> Linux I also have the problem. > > The bottom line is that for linux -> linux copy/paste, xwinclip *breaks* > the copy/paste behavior in Linux. Without xwinclip, I can highlight > target text and replace it with source text that I have copied by > highlighting and doing a ctrl-c. > > I find it odd that this problem has not *seemed* to get more attention. > 95% of the copy/paste that I do involves a) copying source text, b) then > highlighting another block of text (i.e the target), and c) pasting the > copied source text into the highlighted target. > > Because of this problem, I have to reverse the order of things (not > natural) and delete the text in the target area before pasting into the > target area. If I am doing repeated pastes of the same content, perhaps > into multiple documents, this is a huge pain. > > I understand that xwinclip seems to use the concept that any text > highlighted is automatically copied. I suppose that the reason for this > has to do with various applications using different ctrl and alt > keystrokes for their own purposes. For example, a ctrl-c in a kshell > cancels the command line. > > However, there really should be a way to deal with this problem. Is > there and I have just missed it? > > Maybe if some ctrl-alt-shift, etc., key was held down while > highlighting, that action would block xwinclip from putting the > highlighted text into the buffer. > > My environment is: > > Windows 95 running Cygwin .... > XFree86-base 4.2.0-1 > -lib 4.2.0-5 > -xserv 4.2.0-28 (that's what it says: 28) > -xwinclip 4.2.0-8 > > I am using XDM to get to RedHat Linux 8 which has been kept up to date, > using up2date, to just BEFORE the point a couple weeks ago that they > screwed things up with the glib disaster. (I feel like I have been > Microsoft'ed; my faith in RH has been devastated.) > > Any ideas/suggestions or fixes? If more environment info is needed, please > advise. > > Jay > From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Apr 14 00:00:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: How can I disable/alter Alt-Tab win32 switching behavour? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20030413133345.0212f330@pop3.cris.com> References: <3E99ACA0.1040508@niivo.ru> <5.2.1.1.2.20030413133345.0212f330@pop3.cris.com> Message-ID: <3E99FA34.1080207@msu.edu> I don't think our problem is so much trapping Alt+Tab as it is presenting a comprehensive way to get out of Cygwin/XFree86 when Alt+Tab is disabled. That would be the real challenge. It is doable, but it is bigger than just disabling Alt+Tab. Harold Randall R Schulz wrote: > Alexander, > > At 12:30 2003-04-13, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > >> ????? ????? ?? ???????????? wrote: >> >> > Hello >> > >> > Have a need to run X-terminals with minimalistic windows programs >> > running, just XWin in fullscreen. How can I make window manager recieve >> > Alt-Tab/Alt-Shift-Tab pressings? >> >> Windows will always handle taskswitch with alt-tab. You can not >> disable it. >> How the window manager handles keys depends on the window manager. Check >> the documentation and the config files for the window manager. > > > > Gee, that sounds like a challenge... > > - > - > > > - > - > > etc. () > > > However, IANAW32P. > > > Randall Schulz > > >> bye >> ago > > From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Apr 14 01:24:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 01:24:00 -0000 Subject: keyboard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E9A0DBE.3090306@msu.edu> XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-30 has been released. When it appears on the mirrors it will support Portuguese keyboard detection. Thanks Alexander. Harold Alexander Gottwald wrote: > nuno Cerqueira wrote: > > >>KeyboardType: 4: IBM enhanced (101- or 102-key) keyboard >>keyboardLayout: 00000816 > > > And the patch for portuguese and brazilian keyboards > > --- winconfig.ol Thu Apr 10 19:41:54 2003 > +++ winconfig.c Thu Apr 10 19:39:08 2003 > @@ -233,6 +233,8 @@ > {0x40c, 4, "pc105", "fr", NULL, NULL, "French (Standard)"}, > {0x80c, 4, "pc105", "be", NULL, NULL, "French (Belgian)"}, > {0x410, 4, "pc105", "it", NULL, NULL, "Italian"}, > + {0x416, 4, "pc105", "pt", NULL, NULL, "Portuguese (Brazil)"}, > + {0x816, 4, "pc105", "pt", NULL, NULL, "Portuguese (Portugal)"}, > {0x41d, 4, "pc105", "se", NULL, NULL, "Swedish (Sweden)"}, > {-1, -1, NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL} > }; > > bye > ago > NP: VNV Nation - Structure From martin.chong@austco.com Mon Apr 14 04:20:00 2003 From: martin.chong@austco.com (Martin VM Chong) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 04:20:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree86 installation Message-ID: <006301c3023d$640ed4a0$8c00a8c0@int.austco.com> Hi there I have followed the exact instructions to install Cygwin (a few times) and also hoping to get the XFree86 for it. However even though the Xfree component is ticked during installation, there seem to be no XFree86 files/components (no startxwin.bat and no Xwin.exe nothing) existing in my local directory after installation??? Have I missed out something? At the time I was installing the Latest Cygwin DLL release version is 1.3.22-1. Martin VM Chong martin.chong@austco.com From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Mon Apr 14 05:15:00 2003 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 05:15:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree86 installation In-Reply-To: <006301c3023d$640ed4a0$8c00a8c0@int.austco.com> Message-ID: <20030414051510.18092.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> You said you installed Cygwin, but did you install the Xfree packages ? --- Martin VM Chong a ??crit??: > Hi there I have followed the exact instructions to install Cygwin (a > few > times) and also hoping to get the XFree86 for it. However even though > the Xfree component is ticked during installation, there seem to be > no > XFree86 files/components (no startxwin.bat and no Xwin.exe nothing) > existing in my local directory after installation??? Have I missed > out > something? > > At the time I was installing the Latest Cygwin DLL release version is > 1.3.22-1. > > Martin VM Chong > martin.chong@austco.com > ===== Sylvain Petreolle (spetreolle at users dot sourceforge dot net) ICQ #170597259 No more War ! "What if tomorrow the War could be over ?" Morpheus, in "Reloaded". For the Law of Oil and Fire, Im an European that lives in France. For all my Brothers and friends, Im a human living on Earth. ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From FRANZW@dk.ibm.com Mon Apr 14 07:40:00 2003 From: FRANZW@dk.ibm.com (Franz Wolfhagen) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 07:40:00 -0000 Subject: How can I disable/alter Alt-Tab win32 switching behavour? Message-ID: >> Hello >> >> Have a need to run X-terminals with minimalistic windows programs >> running, just XWin in fullscreen. How can I make window manager recieve >> Alt-Tab/Alt-Shift-Tab pressings? > >Windows will always handle taskswitch with alt-tab. You can not disable it. >How the window manager handles keys depends on the window manager. Check >the documentation and the config files for the window manager. > >bye > ago Some windows applications that needs this kind functionality eg. VMWARE are able to catch the taskswitch when in focus (ie. before they are sent to windows). >From the very little knowledge of windows programing knowledge posses, I guess the have a hook into the the main message queue and retrieves the Alt-Tab etc. keystroke messages and sends them to their own application queue effectively filtering them from windows. It is probably possible to do the same for XFREE86 - so anybody with the skills ar free to use this idea (I would do if I had the time to aquire the necessary skills, but I am afraid this will not happen...:-(. Med venlig hilsen / Regards Franz Wolfhagen From alexkuklin@niivo.ru Mon Apr 14 09:40:00 2003 From: alexkuklin@niivo.ru (=?windows-1252?Q?=22=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F_=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F_=28?= =?windows-1252?Q?Alex_Kuklin=29=22?=) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 09:40:00 -0000 Subject: How can I disable/alter Alt-Tab win32 switching behavour? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E9A8215.4030704@niivo.ru> Alexander Gottwald writes: >>Have a need to run X-terminals with minimalistic windows programs >>running, just XWin in fullscreen. How can I make window manager recieve >>Alt-Tab/Alt-Shift-Tab pressings? > > > Windows will always handle taskswitch with alt-tab. You can not disable it. > How the window manager handles keys depends on the window manager. Check > the documentation and the config files for the window manager. Are you sure? As for WinNT SP3a and later the solution in described here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/0700/win32/default.aspx. Don't know if it works in Win98SE, etc. As for Win98SE, there are some apps blocking Alt-Tab, but window manager does not recieve it anyway. I know i can bind another key to window switching, but i need Alt-Tab to avoid users' questions..... WBR, Alex. From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Apr 14 10:03:00 2003 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 10:03:00 -0000 Subject: How can I disable/alter Alt-Tab win32 switching behavour? In-Reply-To: <3E9A8215.4030704@niivo.ru> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, [windows-1252] "??????? ?????? ([windows-1252] Alex Kuklin)" wrote: > Are you sure? No. > As for WinNT SP3a and later the solution in described here: > http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/0700/win32/default.aspx. > Don't know if it works in Win98SE, etc. I've now read some of the pages about the hooks the were sent to the list. But I doubt catching alt-tab is a good solution. You will no longer allow your users to switch applications. If Xwin is the only application which will be running on the system, you could consider installing linux since the xserver is much faster. You can of course alter the source code and add this hook to xwin. But I doubt you can convice any developer to add this. bye ago From alexkuklin@niivo.ru Mon Apr 14 10:42:00 2003 From: alexkuklin@niivo.ru (=?windows-1252?Q?=22=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F_=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F_=28?= =?windows-1252?Q?Alex_Kuklin=29=22?=) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 10:42:00 -0000 Subject: How can I disable/alter Alt-Tab win32 switching behavour? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E9A9074.4010204@niivo.ru> Alexander Gottwald ?????: > I've now read some of the pages about the hooks the were sent to the list. > But I doubt catching alt-tab is a good solution. You will no longer allow > your users to switch applications. If Xwin is the only application which > will be running on the system, you could consider installing linux since > the xserver is much faster. > > You can of course alter the source code and add this hook to xwin. But > I doubt you can convice any developer to add this. There are some problems with linux boxes. Not all drivers are available and so on. Also, I working in a mixed enviroment, Win98 and X running from my main server. Alt-Tab is much more convinient to work in both systems separately. I think alt-tab catching could be added as option, as AltF4 catching is. Also, there could be added alternative such as CtrlAltTab instead of AltTab. WBR, Alex From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Apr 14 12:06:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 12:06:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree86 installation In-Reply-To: <006301c3023d$640ed4a0$8c00a8c0@int.austco.com> References: <006301c3023d$640ed4a0$8c00a8c0@int.austco.com> Message-ID: <3E9AA425.7020705@msu.edu> Martin, When you select the XFree86-base version it should automatically select several other XFree86 packages. Make sure that the "Bin" column is selected for each of these packages, or else nothing will be installed at all. Also, make sure that you know how to start Cygwin/XFree86 once it is installed; note that there is not a new icon when XFree86 is installed, you have to find the batch file yourself: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html#using-starting Harold Martin VM Chong wrote: > Hi there I have followed the exact instructions to install Cygwin (a few > times) and also hoping to get the XFree86 for it. However even though > the Xfree component is ticked during installation, there seem to be no > XFree86 files/components (no startxwin.bat and no Xwin.exe nothing) > existing in my local directory after installation??? Have I missed out > something? > > At the time I was installing the Latest Cygwin DLL release version is > 1.3.22-1. > > Martin VM Chong > martin.chong@austco.com From bijumaillist@yahoo.com Mon Apr 14 15:18:00 2003 From: bijumaillist@yahoo.com (Biju G C) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 15:18:00 -0000 Subject: C / C++ editor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030414151843.92172.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> U can also try Anjuta on Cygwin/CyGNOME from http://cygnome.sourceforge.net/ Ajutha home page http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/ Screen Shots http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/screenshots/anjuta-shot1.jpg Or KDevelop on Cygwin/KDE http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net Screen shots http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/kde2/screenshots.php?img=kde-2.2.1-kdevelop-hello.jpg Cheers Biju -- Jean-Claude Gervais wrote: Emacs or xemacs? -----Original Message----- From: bilinc6@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 7:26 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: C / C++ editor I need a C/C++ editor running in xfree. But, it must let me to inspection step-by-step.. Thanks a lot... bilinc6 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Mon Apr 14 20:35:00 2003 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 20:35:00 -0000 Subject: C / C++ editor In-Reply-To: <20030414151843.92172.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: That's pretty interesting Biju, I'd be curious to know; will it be possible to install Cygnome using Cygwin's SETUP some day? Anyone have any info on that? I posted a message to that effect in the Cygnome forum, but haven't received an answer yet. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Biju G C Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:19 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: C / C++ editor U can also try Anjuta on Cygwin/CyGNOME from http://cygnome.sourceforge.net/ Ajutha home page http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/ Screen Shots http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/screenshots/anjuta-shot1.jpg Or KDevelop on Cygwin/KDE http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net Screen shots http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/kde2/screenshots.php?img=kde-2.2.1-kdevelo p-hello.jpg Cheers Biju -- Jean-Claude Gervais wrote: Emacs or xemacs? -----Original Message----- From: bilinc6@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 7:26 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: C / C++ editor I need a C/C++ editor running in xfree. But, it must let me to inspection step-by-step.. Thanks a lot... bilinc6 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Mon Apr 14 22:30:00 2003 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 22:30:00 -0000 Subject: C / C++ editor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030414223020.63252.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> Its already doable today. see http://cygnome.sourceforge.net/install.html > I'd be curious to know; will it be possible to install Cygnome using > Cygwin's SETUP some day? ===== Sylvain Petreolle (spetreolle at users dot sourceforge dot net) ICQ #170597259 No more War ! "What if tomorrow the War could be over ?" Morpheus, in "Reloaded". For the Law of Oil and Fire, Im an European that lives in France. For all my Brothers and friends, Im a human living on Earth. ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Mon Apr 14 22:45:00 2003 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 22:45:00 -0000 Subject: C / C++ editor In-Reply-To: <20030414223020.63252.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thank you Sylvain, But that's my point exactly; did you see the amount of manual steps you'd need to do to get this puppy (no offense, Pookie) installed? I mean as an option in the Cygwin SETUP. Unless I misunderstood your reply. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Sylvain Petreolle Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 6:30 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: C / C++ editor Its already doable today. see http://cygnome.sourceforge.net/install.html > I'd be curious to know; will it be possible to install Cygnome using > Cygwin's SETUP some day? ===== Sylvain Petreolle (spetreolle at users dot sourceforge dot net) ICQ #170597259 No more War ! "What if tomorrow the War could be over ?" Morpheus, in "Reloaded". For the Law of Oil and Fire, Im an European that lives in France. For all my Brothers and friends, Im a human living on Earth. ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Mon Apr 14 22:48:00 2003 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 22:48:00 -0000 Subject: C / C++ editor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030414224825.54946.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> that what I mean too... right after seeing your first message I were gone on that page and have seen the "Installation" chapter. it talks about Cygwin's setup.exe. > I mean as an option in the Cygwin SETUP. ===== Sylvain Petreolle (spetreolle at users dot sourceforge dot net) ICQ #170597259 No more War ! "What if tomorrow the War could be over ?" Morpheus, in "Reloaded". For the Law of Oil and Fire, Im an European that lives in France. For all my Brothers and friends, Im a human living on Earth. ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran??ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From markem@ev1.net Tue Apr 15 02:39:00 2003 From: markem@ev1.net (Mark Manning) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 02:39:00 -0000 Subject: Slow graphics and no libSM.a Message-ID: <3E9B8E6F.1050208@ev1.net> I downloaded and burned three CDs with cygwin on it. Then I installed Cygwin onto my computer (the November release). After installation I found (as before) that I could not compile my programs from Linux. These programs are really fairly simple but they make two types of calls: 1) X-Window Graphics, and 2)Calls to the "system" function. The errors received were all about "_Smsxxxx" functions. After some research, I learned that libXt.a was attempting to call libSM.a. After looking for libSM.a I found that the size of the library was zero (0). Obviously the library had not been installed for some reason. I thought that I needed to download and re-install the library but upon going through the zip files I found libSM.a and it was complete! So the question is - why did it install as a zero length file? Onwards: After correcting the above problem I then found that my programs also needed the libICE.a library. After adding these two libraries to the call line everything compiled. That was when I ran into the second problem. But let me digress for a moment. I was running everything on a 200mhz Macintosh at first (SUSE Linux) but in 2001 I purchased an 850mhz IBM PC clone. I ran standard RedHat Linux on that machine and everything was great. I even downloaded and installed Cygwin on it and that is where I first ran into the above problem with libSM.a (but could not figure out the problem at the time). I recently purchased a 3.0GHz IBM PC clone and, because it is almost four times the speed of the 850mhz system - I thought things would go a bit faster. (Now back to the second problem.) However, once the programs were compiled and I began running them I was amazed to see that I could actually watch each dot being drawn on the screen. So the second question is - any ideas why it is going so slow? I know that Cygwin (last time I read the FAQ and bug reports) does not use hardware acceleration but this stuff is rather trivial. I'm talking about drawing a grid on a black background here - not Quake. The only thing I can think of is that I am using XmUpdateDisplay every time I draw one of the rectangles on the screen. Granted I could draw everything and then just display the screen once but that would defeat the purpose of the game. (Which is to simply attempt to click on the rectangles as they appear.) It could also be that I am filling up the graphics pipeline or something along those lines. But I didn't think drawing simple rectangles could do that to X Windows (and it doesn't under Linux). Am I doomed not to be able to do this under Cygwin? I was hoping otherwise (as then I could do Windows and Linux development at the same time). Please write and let me know. Thanks! Mark Manning From jrwolfe@northropgrumman.com Tue Apr 15 14:39:00 2003 From: jrwolfe@northropgrumman.com (Wolfe, James R.) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 14:39:00 -0000 Subject: installation on a "non networked" machine Message-ID: <7F21D7A9E7D9D51192CB0002A53F93C703E8FB22@xcgmd024.md.essd.northgrum.com> An ISO image of the distribution would work Is there better way? Is an ISO image of the Cygwin code available somewhere? James R. Wolfe pls. note new mail address jrwolfe@northropgrumman.com From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Tue Apr 15 15:43:00 2003 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 15:43:00 -0000 Subject: installation on a "non networked" machine In-Reply-To: <7F21D7A9E7D9D51192CB0002A53F93C703E8FB22@xcgmd024.md.essd.northgrum.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Apr 2003, Wolfe, James R. wrote: > An ISO image of the distribution would work > Is there better way? > Is an ISO image of the Cygwin code available somewhere? > > James R. Wolfe This issue has been discussed multiple times on . Please search the list archives and move the discussion there. For your convenience, I've set the Reply-To: field to point to the correct list. Please remove from further discussion (unless it drifts towards Cygwin/XFree86 at some point ;-) ). Igor P.S. Be aware that cygwin-xfree list munges the Reply-To: field. -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty. -- Leto II From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Apr 15 21:34:00 2003 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 21:34:00 -0000 Subject: generic rootless and multiwindow In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030415213438.GI915@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Just to take this furthur, for Kensuke and Harold. In the current CVS there is now actual code for this in xc/programs/Xserver/miext/rootless. It would be good if factoring out code in hw/xwin and using this generic code could be done, and if necessary, extend the rootless common code. Alan. On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 02:27:58PM -0600, Brian Ford wrote: > Saw this message on the Xfree86 devel mailing list and wondered if the > multiwindow GURU's were aware: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/devel@xfree86.org/msg01372.html > > BTW, is Cygwin Xfree86 headed for 4.3.0 soon? > > -- > Brian Ford > Senior Realtime Software Engineer > VITAL - Visual Simulation Systems > FlightSafety International > Phone: 314-551-8460 > Fax: 314-551-8444 > From aligk@bricole.com Wed Apr 16 06:39:00 2003 From: aligk@bricole.com (Nina West) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 06:39:00 -0000 Subject: Bedroom thriller Message-ID: <20030415135028.RmKqTIiI4bVF@bricole.com> Shocking bedroom incidents http://ipotoofs.cryingirls.com From alutc@poley.com Wed Apr 16 06:39:00 2003 From: alutc@poley.com (Natalie Lee) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 06:39:00 -0000 Subject: Bathroom violence Message-ID: <20030415144027.0WYfYPpoumOy@poley.com> Real bedroom incidents http://ipeadexl.cryingirls.com/ From clyons@crosspaths.net Wed Apr 16 17:50:00 2003 From: clyons@crosspaths.net (Christopher M. Lyons) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 17:50:00 -0000 Subject: Angst References: <20030412122025.hkGvsTStP5Sl@hypnotist.com> Message-ID: <001901c30440$beb7a3f0$6c5c0043@entropy> What's with the spams on the mailing list? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Vixen" To: Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 1:20 PM Subject: Angst > http://peedoumook.cryingirls.com > > From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Apr 16 17:59:00 2003 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 17:59:00 -0000 Subject: Angst In-Reply-To: <001901c30440$beb7a3f0$6c5c0043@entropy> Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Apr 2003, Christopher M. Lyons wrote: > What's with the spams on the mailing list? Got catched by spam assasin. If you'd have not answered it, I'd have never noticed it. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From rrschulz@cris.com Wed Apr 16 17:59:00 2003 From: rrschulz@cris.com (Randall R Schulz) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 17:59:00 -0000 Subject: Angst In-Reply-To: <001901c30440$beb7a3f0$6c5c0043@entropy> References: <20030412122025.hkGvsTStP5Sl@hypnotist.com> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20030416105748.02ce1e18@pop3.cris.com> Christopher, Imperfect filtering. If you only knew how many came in but were deflected. Chris F. What's the typical daily rejected spam count these days? Randall Schulz At 10:51 2003-04-16, Christopher M. Lyons wrote: >What's with the spams on the mailing list? From axosv@rockdog.com Wed Apr 16 19:10:00 2003 From: axosv@rockdog.com (Morgana Pawlovski) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 19:10:00 -0000 Subject: Bathroom constraint Message-ID: <20030416035825.avqcz3ezmMry@rockdog.com> Shocking bathroom incidents http://ginobef.homethrill.com/ From cgf@redhat.com Thu Apr 17 00:21:00 2003 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 00:21:00 -0000 Subject: Angst In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20030416105748.02ce1e18@pop3.cris.com> References: <20030412122025.hkGvsTStP5Sl@hypnotist.com> <5.2.1.1.2.20030416105748.02ce1e18@pop3.cris.com> Message-ID: <20030417002204.GE3827@redhat.com> On Wed, Apr 16, 2003 at 10:59:15AM -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote: >Christopher, > >Imperfect filtering. > >If you only knew how many came in but were deflected. > >Chris F. What's the typical daily rejected spam count these days? I haven't run the numbers recently but here are the figures as of 2003-03-29: Spam Blocked: 1 RBLed: SpamHaus 2 local deny 7 RBLed: OsirusSoft 10 RBLed: ORDB 15 RBLed: DSBL 24 local subject 57 owner mail 80 no recipient 142 invalid from 180 global sender 186 too many recipients 232 invalid email address 250 RBLed: OsiruSoft 474 global body 1434 RBLed: SpamCop 2372 global from 2736 global deny 3888 no listname 4728 global subject ----- 16818 total blocked by RBL = 1717 total messages = 60223 Spam percentage 28% Most of these are getting through spamassassin for me, too. There seems to be a big increase in spam recently. I'm noticing it on my personal email, as well. I do add each and every spam message that I see to our filters. I block the specific address, add YA regex to our subject filters, when possible add a regex to the body filters, and, when possible add a generic "block this regex in an email address" also. cgf From Andreas.Erb@siemens.com Thu Apr 17 09:23:00 2003 From: Andreas.Erb@siemens.com (Andreas Erb) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 09:23:00 -0000 Subject: XDM-Trouble Message-ID: <3E9E72A6.1050003@siemens.com> Hi, I have an ugly problem with XFree86 and xdm. xdm is activated on my linux-system. The xdm-logon works with the StarNet's X-win32. But with XFree86 it doesn't. When looking at the open TCP ports, XFree86 isn't even attempting to connect to the remote host. The bug must lie within my laptop setup. Unfortunately I can't find any hint, how I could find the problem. Do you have any idea what the problem may be or how I could gether the right information? Thank you very much for your help! Kind regards Hearp From alexkuklin@niivo.ru Thu Apr 17 09:36:00 2003 From: alexkuklin@niivo.ru (=?windows-1252?Q?=22=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F_=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F_=28?= =?windows-1252?Q?Alex_Kuklin=29=22?=) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 09:36:00 -0000 Subject: XDM-Trouble In-Reply-To: <3E9E72A6.1050003@siemens.com> References: <3E9E72A6.1050003@siemens.com> Message-ID: <3E9E7589.1060808@niivo.ru> Andreas Erb ?????: > I have an ugly problem with XFree86 and xdm. > xdm is activated on my linux-system. The xdm-logon works with the > StarNet's X-win32. But with XFree86 it doesn't. > When looking at the open TCP ports, XFree86 isn't even attempting to > connect to the remote host. > The bug must lie within my laptop setup. Unfortunately I can't find any > hint, how I could find the problem. > Do you have any idea what the problem may be or how I could gether the > right information? Check if you have Remote Access Controller installed on you windows host. Got the same problem once. Try to reinstall it. If it helps, it's time to write bug report. :) WBR, Alex. From nikolai@humbug.org.au Thu Apr 17 09:57:00 2003 From: nikolai@humbug.org.au (Nikolai Lusan) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 09:57:00 -0000 Subject: XDM-Trouble In-Reply-To: <3E9E72A6.1050003@siemens.com> References: <3E9E72A6.1050003@siemens.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Apr 2003, Andreas Erb wrote: > I have an ugly problem with XFree86 and xdm. > xdm is activated on my linux-system. The xdm-logon works with the > StarNet's X-win32. But with XFree86 it doesn't. > When looking at the open TCP ports, XFree86 isn't even attempting to > connect to the remote host. > The bug must lie within my laptop setup. Unfortunately I can't find any > hint, how I could find the problem. > Do you have any idea what the problem may be or how I could gether the > right information? I noticed this problem when i first started playing with cygwin XFree86, I found that adding the -from my.ip option fixed it. If you look at the logs you should see that xdm cannot resolve the address 0.0.0.0 Nikolai From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Apr 17 14:36:00 2003 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 14:36:00 -0000 Subject: XDM-Trouble In-Reply-To: <3E9E72A6.1050003@siemens.com> Message-ID: Andreas Erb wrote: > I have an ugly problem with XFree86 and xdm. > xdm is activated on my linux-system. The xdm-logon works with the > StarNet's X-win32. But with XFree86 it doesn't. > When looking at the open TCP ports, XFree86 isn't even attempting to > connect to the remote host. > The bug must lie within my laptop setup. Unfortunately I can't find any > hint, how I could find the problem. > Do you have any idea what the problem may be or how I could gether the > right information? You have most likely two network adater configured. One for local network and one for dialup-networking. XWin has sometimes problems determining the right adapter and chooses the dialup network which has no IP address asignend. You can tell XWin which interface to use with the -from parameter. bye ago NP: grauzone.03-02-24 -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Britishsmokers@yahoo.co.uk Thu Apr 17 16:39:00 2003 From: Britishsmokers@yahoo.co.uk (British Smokers) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 16:39:00 -0000 Subject: Beat the budget! Message-ID: Dear Sir/Madam Don't pay high prices for tobacco in the UK or Ireland! We can send you legally, by registered airmail direct to your UK or Irish address, 800 cigarettes or 30x50g pouches of rolling tobacco (all brands available) from as little as 170 Euros fully inclusive of postage, packing and all taxes. This works out at approximately ??2.75 or 4.25 Euros per packet. 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It seems that the spams with the randomness at the beginning or the end of the subject line are getting through most often. Oh well... I am pretty damn impressed with the quality of the spam blocking for cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. No need to do anything more. Harold Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Wed, Apr 16, 2003 at 10:59:15AM -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote: > >>Christopher, >> >>Imperfect filtering. >> >>If you only knew how many came in but were deflected. >> >>Chris F. What's the typical daily rejected spam count these days? > > > I haven't run the numbers recently but here are the figures as of > 2003-03-29: > > Spam Blocked: > > 1 RBLed: SpamHaus > 2 local deny > 7 RBLed: OsirusSoft > 10 RBLed: ORDB > 15 RBLed: DSBL > 24 local subject > 57 owner mail > 80 no recipient > 142 invalid from > 180 global sender > 186 too many recipients > 232 invalid email address > 250 RBLed: OsiruSoft > 474 global body > 1434 RBLed: SpamCop > 2372 global from > 2736 global deny > 3888 no listname > 4728 global subject > ----- > 16818 > > total blocked by RBL = 1717 > total messages = 60223 > > Spam percentage 28% > > Most of these are getting through spamassassin for me, too. > There seems to be a big increase in spam recently. I'm noticing > it on my personal email, as well. > > I do add each and every spam message that I see to our filters. > I block the specific address, add YA regex to our subject filters, > when possible add a regex to the body filters, and, when possible > add a generic "block this regex in an email address" also. > > cgf From aclrk@umich.edu Sat Apr 19 15:00:00 2003 From: aclrk@umich.edu (Clark, Anthony) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 15:00:00 -0000 Subject: redhat 9 style anti-aliasing? Message-ID: Hi, I was wondering what sort of steps one would have to take to enable redhat 9 style pretty font rendering? As far as I know, cygwin doesn't have any of the /usr/share/fonts or /etc/fonts style font management. In fact, I couldn't even find an XF86Config, which is strange. Any pointers on what I'd need to get this working? Thanks! Anthony Clark From sb@dod.no Sat Apr 19 22:11:00 2003 From: sb@dod.no (Steinar Bang) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 22:11:00 -0000 Subject: XWin -clipboard and xwinclip bad highlighting behavior References: <3E94889E.6020005@msu.edu> Message-ID: <87wuhqf89d.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> >>>>> Harold L Hunt II : > [snip!] For example, the nightmares people have using xwinclip or > -clipboard with XDMCP "Nightmare" is a bit strong. "Flaky and unpredictable" is a better description. :-) > will go away with server-side code handling the integration. Kewl. From hzhr@linuxforum.net Sun Apr 20 05:33:00 2003 From: hzhr@linuxforum.net (David Huang) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 05:33:00 -0000 Subject: redhat 9 style anti-aliasing? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EA231F1.60001@linuxforum.net> Clark, Anthony wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering what sort of steps one would have to take to enable redhat 9 style pretty font rendering? > > As far as I know, cygwin doesn't have any of the /usr/share/fonts or /etc/fonts style font management. In fact, I couldn't even find an XF86Config, which is strange. > > Any pointers on what I'd need to get this working? Sounds like you need Xft 2, fontconfig, which are parts of XFree86 4.3. See http://fontconfig.org/. I've put some patches for Xft, fontconfig, freetype getting worked on XFree86 4.2 on http://cygnome2.sourceforge.net/test-patches/. Hope helpful. > > Thanks! > > Anthony Clark > From amandapx@katie.com Sun Apr 20 12:49:00 2003 From: amandapx@katie.com (amandapx@katie.com) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:49:00 -0000 Subject: Hi! Message-ID: Hey Sugar, I have been trying to talk to you in my chatroom for months. We were talking about my website and didn't want to give you the URL to my site. its not because I didnt like you it's 'cause I didn't want you to think badly of me we were having nice chat I'm not very ashamed of the site I just didnt know if you'd want to see me in all of my glory LOL. Don't be angry come back it's no fun with out you :( Talk to you in the chat room Love, Mary Here is the site http://www.hosting24-7.org/z/mnw/?id=bysin Or go here http://www.hosting24-7.org/jb/nomore.html if you wouldnt want me to mail you anymore From cgf@redhat.com Sun Apr 20 15:31:00 2003 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:31:00 -0000 Subject: rootless X server, wow! In-Reply-To: <3EA2BEF7.9030501@kegel.com> References: <3EA2BEF7.9030501@kegel.com> Message-ID: <20030420153147.GB18243@redhat.com> On Sun, Apr 20, 2003 at 08:38:31AM -0700, Dan Kegel wrote: >The XFree86 4.3.0 release notes mention: >"Various Cygwin support updates, including an experimental rootless X >server for Cygwin/XFree86." >which made me drool, but the latest Cygwin is still at XFree86 4.2.0. > >A little poking around, though, showed that the rootless mode is already >in Cygwin as of Jan 2003; see http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ >I verified that Xwin -rootless does seem to kind of work, >but I couldn't figure out how to make it start with 'startx'. > >Seems like that ought to be an FAQ, but it's not in >http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html > >One possible answer is at >http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2003-03/msg00040.html >namely, create ~/.xserverrc containing > exec X -rootless > >I just tried this, and it works! This is so cool! >It might just get rid of one big objection my wife >has to using cygwin: "that icky big X window". > >BTW, I only just discovered the cygwin-xfree-faq. >Shouldn't the main Cygwin FAQ point to that document with big flashing >arrows? Your search was a little off. You found the cygwin XFree86 FAQ but apparently didn't find the Cygwin XFree86 mailing list where XFree86 is intended to be discussed. There is an XFree86 link on just about every page at the cygwin site. I can't imagine why that would be insufficient for leading you to XFree86 resources. If you have questions about cygwin-xfree please use the appropriate mailing list. I've cc'ed this message there and will close off further discussion on this subject shortly. cgf From cowboyenvy@yahoo.com Tue Apr 22 03:27:00 2003 From: cowboyenvy@yahoo.com (Barrow Kevin) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 03:27:00 -0000 Subject: rootless & multiwindow mode & Windows 2000sp1 Message-ID: <20030422032719.43990.qmail@web11904.mail.yahoo.com> I've been searching the Mailing list for Xfree and I've not found any reference to my problem, it still seems like a newbie question however, I'm running Windows 2000 SP1 I have only found sniplets of information on the operation of rootless & multi window operation, I'm running Xwin.exe directly from the start menu for debuging purposes, I intend to put it in run eventualy. I run with the command line: C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\run.exe C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe -rootless -multiwindow -nowinkill -unixkill -clipboard -emualte3buttons 50 When I do this X apps are not managed by windows, however, I took the rootless out, and it works fine, however there is a dummy rootwindow. when the root window is then opened the X apps are unmanaged.. is this a bug or a feature? Kevin AKA CowBoyEnvy __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 22 03:33:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 03:33:00 -0000 Subject: rootless & multiwindow mode & Windows 2000sp1 In-Reply-To: <20030422032719.43990.qmail@web11904.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030422032719.43990.qmail@web11904.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3EA4B81B.5000904@msu.edu> Barrow, First of all, you do NOT want to use "run.exe" with "XWin.exe". run.exe is not only not needed, but it in fact is known to cause problems with XWin.exe. -rootless and -multiwindow are mutually exclusive --- you use one or the other, but never both. -emulate3buttons is misspelled. You should be running without -rootless and yes, there should be a dummy root window. Harold Barrow Kevin wrote: > I've been searching the Mailing list for Xfree and > I've not found any reference to my problem, it still > seems like a newbie question however, > > I'm running Windows 2000 SP1 I have only found > sniplets of information on the operation of rootless & > multi window operation, > > I'm running Xwin.exe directly from the start menu for > debuging purposes, I intend to put it in run > eventualy. > > I run with the command line: > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\run.exe > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe -rootless > -multiwindow -nowinkill -unixkill -clipboard > -emualte3buttons 50 > > When I do this X apps are not managed by windows, > however, I took the rootless out, and it works fine, > however there is a dummy rootwindow. when the root > window is then opened the X apps are unmanaged.. is > this a bug or a feature? > > Kevin AKA CowBoyEnvy > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo > http://search.yahoo.com From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Tue Apr 22 06:17:00 2003 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 06:17:00 -0000 Subject: New KDE-cygwin 3.1.1 Beta 1 release Message-ID: <013001c30896$c9199740$0a1c440a@BRAMSCHE> Hi all, we are proud to present the first KDE 3.1.1 release of the KDE desktop environment for cygwin/xfree. See http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/kde3/ for further informations. Read what a user reports about this new release: "Kudos for the new KDE 3.1.1 beta. My first install on Windows 2000 with this went perfectly and it runs *very stable*. Very impressive. Ironic that I ran KDE 3.1.1 before I had it running on a linux box.:)" Because KDE is based on cygwin and the xfree server, this is also a success for the whole cygwin and cygwin-xfree team. Thank you for all your efforts. Regards Ralf From Ruth.Ivimey-Cook@ivimey.org Tue Apr 22 13:31:00 2003 From: Ruth.Ivimey-Cook@ivimey.org (Ruth Ivimey-Cook) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:31:00 -0000 Subject: Problems configuring cygwin-xfree for XDM and non-US kbd` Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030422141147.01fc83c0@mailhost.ivimey.org> Hi folks, I have a Sony Vaio GRX laptop and have installed Cygwin using the setup.exe program; almost all is well, except that one of the main reasons I installed it was to use the laptop as an x-terminal for my Linux 2.4.20 desktop. Although I have perused the help and mailing lists I haven't been able to set it up properly. Out of the box, the server runs up ok and, given a command such as: "X -dpi 100 -query sharra :0" it will create a display and connect to the Linux box's gdm server. However, the keyboard layout is "us" and, as my laptop is a uk model, that is a bit irritating. I've tried creating my own XF86Config file, and also downloading the one from tu-chemnitz.de, and when used both result in the XDMCP stuff failing: I get an X display that I can create local xterm's on, but XDMCP doesn't work. Enabling Debug in GDM reveals that XDMCP request is happening, that gdm then says "I'm willing", but nothing more happens. The request--willing response is repeated a few times. I tried doing "X -dpi 100 -query sharra -keyboard gb :0", but this resulted in the server even failing to draw the default grey background, although the window border is displayed. I saw the post about keyboard.exe: it's output is: Robinton:~ 264> ./keyboard.exe KeyboardType: 4: IBM enhanced (101- or 102-key) keyboard KeyboardLayout: 00000809 The keyboard is physically a standard laptop variety, with no physical numeric pad or "Internet" type keys but it does have the Windows and Menu keys and a "Fn" key for Sony extensions. Can anyone help please? Thanks Ruth P.S. It would be nice if someone in the know could improve the XWin.exe man page, as it is rather terse at present. In particular, reference to the ways that you can use the XF86Config file would be good. From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Apr 22 13:52:00 2003 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:52:00 -0000 Subject: Problems configuring cygwin-xfree for XDM and non-US kbd` In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030422141147.01fc83c0@mailhost.ivimey.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Ruth Ivimey-Cook wrote: > I've tried creating my own XF86Config file, and also downloading the one > from tu-chemnitz.de, and when used both result in the XDMCP stuff failing: > I get an X display that I can create local xterm's on, but XDMCP doesn't > work. Enabling Debug in GDM reveals that XDMCP request is happening, that > gdm then says "I'm willing", but nothing more happens. The request--willing > response is repeated a few times. This is very strange. The config file does only change the preset for rgb file, fontpath and keyboard layout. Can you try changing the keyboardlayout after login via setxkbmap gb. If this does not work then I expect a problem with your installation. > I tried doing "X -dpi 100 -query sharra -keyboard gb :0", but this resulted > in the server even failing to draw the default grey background, although > the window border is displayed. the -keyboard switch names the configuration to use if multiple keyboard sections are found in the config file. Default is the first on, but you can also name the section and select them by name. > I saw the post about keyboard.exe: it's output is: > > Robinton:~ 264> ./keyboard.exe > KeyboardType: 4: IBM enhanced (101- or 102-key) keyboard > KeyboardLayout: 00000809 Don't know if I've already added it to the list of known layouts. But I'll add it if not. > The keyboard is physically a standard laptop variety, with no physical > numeric pad or "Internet" type keys but it does have the Windows and Menu > keys and a "Fn" key for Sony extensions. The windows function I used does can only distinguish between PC-XT (83 key), Olivetti (102 key), PC-AT (84 key), IBM enhanced (101/102-key), Nokia 1050, Nokia 9140 and japanese keyboard. So every keyboard that is IBM + Windows keys + special useless internet keys is reported as IBM. Since Notebook keyboards emulate IBM keyboards this mapping should not introduce any problems. > P.S. It would be nice if someone in the know could improve the XWin.exe man > page, as it is rather terse at present. In particular, reference to the > ways that you can use the XF86Config file would be good. Hm, you're right. But you know, documentation is always done when nothing else can be found and the programmer is bored *g* bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Ruth.Ivimey-Cook@ivimey.org Tue Apr 22 14:04:00 2003 From: Ruth.Ivimey-Cook@ivimey.org (Ruth Ivimey-Cook) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:04:00 -0000 Subject: Problems configuring cygwin-xfree for XDM and non-US kbd` In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030422141147.01fc83c0@mailhost.ivimey.org> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030422150000.01ffcca8@mailhost.ivimey.org> At 14:52 22/04/2003, you wrote: >On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Ruth Ivimey-Cook wrote: > > gdm then says "I'm willing", but nothing more happens. The > request--willing > > response is repeated a few times. > >This is very strange. The config file does only change the preset for rgb >file, >fontpath and keyboard layout. > >Can you try changing the keyboardlayout after login via setxkbmap gb. If this >does not work then I expect a problem with your installation. I tried this twice: once using the setxkbmap in RedHat 9, which failed with a simple error (unknon map, or something like that), the other time using setxkbmap.exe from cygwin, which crashed the X server with a segfault (core dumped). The latter is why I can't say exactly what the former error message was! I do have an /etc/X11/xkb directory, and it does have a file "gb". All files there are as installed using setup.exe. >the -keyboard switch names the configuration to use if multiple keyboard >sections >are found in the config file. Default is the first on, but you can also name >the section and select them by name. So that wont help me then. Regards, Ruth From Ruth.Ivimey-Cook@ivimey.org Tue Apr 22 14:06:00 2003 From: Ruth.Ivimey-Cook@ivimey.org (Ruth Ivimey-Cook) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:06:00 -0000 Subject: Problems configuring cygwin-xfree for XDM and non-US kbd` In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030422150000.01ffcca8@mailhost.ivimey.org> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030422141147.01fc83c0@mailhost.ivimey.org> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030422150518.01f6fc38@mailhost.ivimey.org> At 15:04 22/04/2003, Ruth Ivimey-Cook wrote: >which crashed the X server with a segfault (core dumped). The latter is >why I can't say Sorry, this wasn't clear: The client failed because the server connection died. The server crashed with a coredump. Ruth From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Apr 22 14:15:00 2003 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:15:00 -0000 Subject: Problems configuring cygwin-xfree for XDM and non-US kbd` In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030422150000.01ffcca8@mailhost.ivimey.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Ruth Ivimey-Cook wrote: > I tried this twice: once using the setxkbmap in RedHat 9, which failed with > a simple error (unknon map, or something like that), the other time using > setxkbmap.exe from cygwin, which crashed the X server with a segfault (core > dumped). The latter is why I can't say exactly what the former error > message was! How is /tmp mounted? I always recommend binmode. A textmode mount has led to errors a while ago. I don't know if they can still crash the server but mounting /tmp in binmode will remove this point of failure. Does xkbcomp -xkm -m gb /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/gb.xkm work? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From antonv@postikaista.net Tue Apr 22 16:01:00 2003 From: antonv@postikaista.net (Anton Vaaranmaa) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:01:00 -0000 Subject: Where the heck are the header files??? Message-ID: <200304231859.52934.antonv@postikaista.net> I'm trying to compile an KDE3.1 app. Configure complains that it can't find X. When I browse the dirs I find no ".h" files for X anywhere. I thought they were in XFree-libs, but the bzipped tarball does not have them either. Neither is there any XFree-devel package available, at least not available in the Cygwin setup. This is probably a FAQ, but please point me to the direction of where I can get hold of the headers. Cheers, -- Anton From antonv@postikaista.net Tue Apr 22 16:08:00 2003 From: antonv@postikaista.net (Anton Vaaranmaa) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:08:00 -0000 Subject: Found them (Re: Where the heck are the header files???) In-Reply-To: <200304231859.52934.antonv@postikaista.net> References: <200304231859.52934.antonv@postikaista.net> Message-ID: <200304231907.48199.antonv@postikaista.net> On Wednesday 23 April 2003 18:59, Anton Vaaranmaa spat: > This is probably a FAQ, but please point me to the direction of where I can > get hold of the headers. Ok... "XFree86-devel" is "XFree86-prog" under Cygwin ;-) I'm sorry for flooding this mailing list. The question is is "devel" a Redhatism or is "prog" a Debianism/some other "ism" for naming of packages with c-header files? -- Anton From cowboyenvy@yahoo.com Tue Apr 22 16:36:00 2003 From: cowboyenvy@yahoo.com (Barrow Kevin) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:36:00 -0000 Subject: rootless & multiwindow mode & Windows 2000sp1 In-Reply-To: <3EA4B81B.5000904@msu.edu> Message-ID: <20030422163658.29443.qmail@web11904.mail.yahoo.com> Thank you, I appreicate the help/info, I don't know if there are already plans to implement this solution but running them in congunction whould be an option, to get rid of the dummy root window, maybe placing an icon in the icon tray?? that way, someone who wants the dummy root window still has it there, and/or someone who doesn't want it can get rid of it but still be able to control the X session Kevin AKA cowboyhat PS were should the emulate3buttons go if not on the end? Kevin --- Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Barrow, > > First of all, you do NOT want to use "run.exe" with > "XWin.exe". run.exe > is not only not needed, but it in fact is known to > cause problems with > XWin.exe. > > -rootless and -multiwindow are mutually exclusive > --- you use one or the > other, but never both. > > -emulate3buttons is misspelled. > > You should be running without -rootless and yes, > there should be a dummy > root window. > > Harold > > Barrow Kevin wrote: > > I've been searching the Mailing list for Xfree and > > I've not found any reference to my problem, it > still > > seems like a newbie question however, > > > > I'm running Windows 2000 SP1 I have only found > > sniplets of information on the operation of > rootless & > > multi window operation, > > > > I'm running Xwin.exe directly from the start menu > for > > debuging purposes, I intend to put it in run > > eventualy. > > > > I run with the command line: > > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\run.exe > > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe -rootless > > -multiwindow -nowinkill -unixkill -clipboard > > -emualte3buttons 50 > > > > When I do this X apps are not managed by windows, > > however, I took the rootless out, and it works > fine, > > however there is a dummy rootwindow. when the root > > window is then opened the X apps are unmanaged.. > is > > this a bug or a feature? > > > > Kevin AKA CowBoyEnvy > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo > > http://search.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 22 16:41:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:41:00 -0000 Subject: rootless & multiwindow mode & Windows 2000sp1 In-Reply-To: <20030422163658.29443.qmail@web11904.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030422163658.29443.qmail@web11904.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3EA570AD.9010108@msu.edu> Kevin, No, running them in conjunction will never be an option. The dummy root window is there because multiwindow is not yet finished. When it is finished, it will be removed. There will never be a reason, nor will it be supported, to run with -rootless and -multiwindow. -emulate3buttons can go anywhere... you just mispelled it (not misplaced it). Harold Barrow Kevin wrote: > Thank you, > I appreicate the help/info, I don't know if there > are already plans to implement this solution but > running them in congunction whould be an option, to > get rid of the dummy root window, maybe placing an > icon in the icon tray?? that way, someone who wants > the dummy root window still has it there, and/or > someone who doesn't want it can get rid of it but > still be able to control the X session > > Kevin AKA cowboyhat > > PS were should the emulate3buttons go if not on the > end? > > Kevin > > --- Harold L Hunt II wrote: > >>Barrow, >> >>First of all, you do NOT want to use "run.exe" with >>"XWin.exe". run.exe >>is not only not needed, but it in fact is known to >>cause problems with >>XWin.exe. >> >>-rootless and -multiwindow are mutually exclusive >>--- you use one or the >>other, but never both. >> >>-emulate3buttons is misspelled. >> >>You should be running without -rootless and yes, >>there should be a dummy >>root window. >> >>Harold >> >>Barrow Kevin wrote: >> >>>I've been searching the Mailing list for Xfree and >>>I've not found any reference to my problem, it >> >>still >> >>>seems like a newbie question however, >>> >>>I'm running Windows 2000 SP1 I have only found >>>sniplets of information on the operation of >> >>rootless & >> >>>multi window operation, >>> >>>I'm running Xwin.exe directly from the start menu >> >>for >> >>>debuging purposes, I intend to put it in run >>>eventualy. >>> >>>I run with the command line: >>>C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\run.exe >>>C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe -rootless >>>-multiwindow -nowinkill -unixkill -clipboard >>>-emualte3buttons 50 >>> >>>When I do this X apps are not managed by windows, >>>however, I took the rootless out, and it works >> >>fine, >> >>>however there is a dummy rootwindow. when the root >>>window is then opened the X apps are unmanaged.. >> >>is >> >>>this a bug or a feature? >>> >>>Kevin AKA CowBoyEnvy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>__________________________________________________ >>>Do you Yahoo!? >>>The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo >>>http://search.yahoo.com >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo > http://search.yahoo.com From kiwhan@hotmail.com Tue Apr 22 17:02:00 2003 From: kiwhan@hotmail.com (kiwhan chung) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:02:00 -0000 Subject: can not start 'startx' from the prompt and missing files Message-ID: Howdy, I am posting two questions thinking the two may be related.... I appreciate your help. Kiwhan Question 1: I am trying to find out why command 'startx' at the prompt gives me an error message and won't start the xwindow. Cygwin1.dll is installed only in C:\cygwin\bin. Below is the error message on the screen. >$ startx > >xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): no server "X" in PATH > >Use the -- option, or make sure that /usr/X11R6/bin is in your path and >that "X" is a program or a link to the right type of server >for your display. Possible server names include: > > XFree86 XFree86 displays > >giving up. >xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server >xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. Question 2: My .xinitrc file in my home directory says this. My question is... shouldn't I have the .Xresources and .Xmodmap files in the /usr/X11R6/X11/xinit directory also? I checked and I don't have that directory at all. >$ more .xinitrc >#!/bin/sh ># $Xorg: xinitrc.cpp,v 1.3 2000/08/17 19:54:30 cpqbld Exp $ ># PATH=%PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin > >userresources=$HOME/.Xresources >usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap >sysresources=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xresources <============ >??>sysmodmap=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap <================= ?? _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From Ruth.Ivimey-Cook@ivimey.org Tue Apr 22 18:12:00 2003 From: Ruth.Ivimey-Cook@ivimey.org (Ruth Ivimey-Cook) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:12:00 -0000 Subject: Problems configuring cygwin-xfree for XDM and non-US kbd` In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030422150000.01ffcca8@mailhost.ivimey.org> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030422190720.00b2b778@mailhost.ivimey.org> At 15:15 22/04/2003, you wrote: >On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Ruth Ivimey-Cook wrote: >How is /tmp mounted? I always recommend binmode. A textmode mount has led >to errors a while ago. I don't know if they can still crash the server but >mounting /tmp in binmode will remove this point of failure. How do I change what is mounted? I don't know where it's set up. I have this so far: Robinton:~ 276> mount C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts on /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts type system (binmode) C:\cygwin\bin on /usr/bin type system (textmode) C:\cygwin\lib on /usr/lib type system (textmode) C:\cygwin on / type system (textmode) c: on /cygdrive/c type user (textmode,noumount) d: on /cygdrive/d type user (textmode,noumount) >Does xkbcomp -xkm -m gb /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/gb.xkm work? I get this: Robinton:~ 277> xkbcomp -xkm -m gb /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/gb.xkm Warning: Attempt to alias to non-existent key Ignored Warning: Attempt to alias to non-existent key Ignored Warning: Attempt to alias to non-existent key Ignored Warning: No symbols defined for (keycode 118) Warning: No symbols defined for (keycode 119) Warning: No symbols defined for (keycode 120) Warning: No symbols defined for (keycode 121) Warning: No symbols defined for (keycode 122) Warning: No symbols defined for (keycode 123) Warning: No symbols defined for (keycode 129) Warning: No symbols defined for (keycode 130) Warning: No symbols defined for (keycode 131) Warning: No symbols defined for (keycode 132) Warning: No symbols defined for (keycode 133) Warning: No symbols defined for (keycode 134) [more Warning lines omitted] Warning: No symbols defined for (keycode 254) Warning: No symbols defined for (keycode 255) Robinton:~ 278> ls -l !$ ls -l /tmp/gb.xkm -rw-rw-rw- 1 Ruth Ivi None 7520 Apr 22 19:09 /tmp/gb.xkm Regards, Ruth From andrew.markebo@telia.com Tue Apr 22 19:04:00 2003 From: andrew.markebo@telia.com (Andrew Markebo) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:04:00 -0000 Subject: can not start 'startx' from the prompt and missing files References: Message-ID: | Question 1: | I am trying to find out why command 'startx' at the prompt gives me an | error message and won't start the xwindow. Cygwin1.dll is installed | only in C:\cygwin\bin. Below is the error message on the screen. | |>$ startx You should use "startxwin.bat" or "startxwin.sh", depending on from where you start.. [...] | Question 2: | | My .xinitrc file in my home directory says this. My question | is... shouldn't I have the .Xresources and .Xmodmap files in the | /usr/X11R6/X11/xinit directory also? I checked and I don't have that | directory at all. Who made your .xinitrc file? Normally it is you, the user who does it if my memory doesn't fail me, or your sysadm, so this is a small difference in how installations handles this if my memory doesn't fail me. /Andy -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From kiwhan@hotmail.com Tue Apr 22 19:40:00 2003 From: kiwhan@hotmail.com (kiwhan chung) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:40:00 -0000 Subject: can not start 'startx' from the prompt and missing files Message-ID: Andy, Thank you for replying. The .xinitrc file in my home directory is copied from another directory (I don't remember) that was created by the automatic installation. The installation guide stated that the file should be copied to the home directory and edited as necessary. My question is that... the variables defined in the file directs to a file which doesn't exist. The entire subdirectory /usr/X11R6/X11/xinit doesn't exist. I was wondering if that is caused by a faulty installation. Kiwhan _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From andrew.markebo@telia.com Tue Apr 22 19:53:00 2003 From: andrew.markebo@telia.com (Andrew Markebo) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:53:00 -0000 Subject: can not start 'startx' from the prompt and missing files In-Reply-To: ("kiwhan chung"'s message of "Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:40:26 -0700") References: Message-ID: Hi! Hmm where does it say to copy .xinitrc to your home subdir? Nothing I have seen.. To get it running, I don't need to do anything.. ;-) Maybe a small modification of the cygwin-stuff on your site? Shortly, seems like you are using someone else's instructions. /Andy / "kiwhan chung" wrote: | Andy, | | Thank you for replying. | | The .xinitrc file in my home directory is copied from another | directory (I don't remember) that was created by the automatic | installation. The installation guide stated that the file should be | copied to the home directory and edited as necessary. My question is | that... the variables defined in the file directs to a file which | doesn't exist. The entire subdirectory /usr/X11R6/X11/xinit doesn't | exist. I was wondering if that is caused by a faulty installation. | | Kiwhan | | | | _________________________________________________________________ | The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* | http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail | | -- All people are equal, but some are more equal that the others - Someone more equal From kiwhan@hotmail.com Tue Apr 22 20:37:00 2003 From: kiwhan@hotmail.com (kiwhan chung) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:37:00 -0000 Subject: can not start 'startx' from the prompt and missing files Message-ID: Hey Andy, The installation Guide on page 15 says the following. I followed the exact instruction, but still no success.... ======================================== startx - Use the standard XFree86 startx script with its attendant ~/.xinitrc configuration file. First you need to create ~/.xinitrc from the template in /etc/X11/xinit/: Username@CygwinHost ~ $ cp /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc ~/.xinitrc Now you may customize ~/.xinitrc and start Cygwin/XFree86 with: Username@CygwinHost ~ $ cd /usr/X11R6/bin && startx Or, you can run startx by first adding /usr/X11R6/bin/ to the search path: Username@CygwinHost ~ $ PATH=%PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin Username@CygwinHost ~ $ startx Or, you can run startx by first changing directories to /usr/X11R6/bin/: Username@CygwinHost ~ $ cd /usr/X11R6/bin Username@CygwinHost /usr/X11R6/bin $ startx ======================= I copied the .xinitrc file from /etc/X11/xinit/ and it was in this .xinitrc file that some of the variables defined in the file ( sysresources=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xresources and sysmodmap=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap ) weren't found. BTW, whether I add the PATH=%PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin in the .xinitrc file or not didn't make difference. 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Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From fxian@fxian.mine.nu Tue Apr 22 20:52:00 2003 From: fxian@fxian.mine.nu (Feng Xian) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:52:00 -0000 Subject: can not start 'startx' from the prompt and missing files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1051044756.2385.99.camel@camelot-015> Hi, first, the user local .xinitrc is not a must. you have it or not, you should be able to start xwindows unless you have problem with your xinitrc. second, i checked with /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc, before it loads any resource file, it always check if that resource file exists or not, like if [ -f $sysresources ]; then xrdb -merge $sysresources fi so if you have the right xinitrc, you should not see the error like 'file not found' third, there're no the system modmap/resources files .Xresources and .Xmodmap under either /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/ or /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/ from a standard cygwin installation, i think. so maybe you check the permission of your /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc and temporally remove/rename your local $HOME/.xinitrc, then have another try. good luck! On Tue, 2003-04-22 at 16:37, kiwhan chung wrote: > Hey Andy, > > The installation Guide on page 15 says the following. I followed the exact > instruction, but still no success.... > > ======================================== > startx - Use the standard XFree86 startx script with its attendant > ~/.xinitrc configuration file. First you need to create ~/.xinitrc from the > template in /etc/X11/xinit/: > > Username@CygwinHost ~ > $ cp /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc ~/.xinitrc > > > Now you may customize ~/.xinitrc and start Cygwin/XFree86 with: > > Username@CygwinHost ~ > $ cd /usr/X11R6/bin && startx > > > Or, you can run startx by first adding /usr/X11R6/bin/ to the search path: > > Username@CygwinHost ~ > $ PATH=%PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin > > Username@CygwinHost ~ > $ startx > > > Or, you can run startx by first changing directories to /usr/X11R6/bin/: > > Username@CygwinHost ~ > $ cd /usr/X11R6/bin > > Username@CygwinHost /usr/X11R6/bin > $ startx > > ======================= > > I copied the .xinitrc file from /etc/X11/xinit/ and it was in this .xinitrc > file that some of the variables defined in the file ( > sysresources=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xresources and > sysmodmap=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap ) weren't found. > > BTW, whether I add the PATH=%PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin in the .xinitrc file or not > didn't make difference. > > Thanks, > > Kiwhan > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From andrew.markebo@telia.com Tue Apr 22 21:12:00 2003 From: andrew.markebo@telia.com (Andrew Markebo) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:12:00 -0000 Subject: can not start 'startx' from the prompt and missing files In-Reply-To: ("kiwhan chung"'s message of "Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:37:49 -0700") References: Message-ID: Hi! Sorry for blaming you too quick.. I should probably read the problems some more, as well as some other people reading the docs.. I am having the same problems with you regarding startx, unfortunetaly the docs are not updated, so it could be those instructions that are not uptodate. Meanwhile, have you gotten startxwin.bat/sh up and running? I don't have any problems with it, and well.. doesn't it provide the functionality you need? | I copied the .xinitrc file from /etc/X11/xinit/ and it was in this | .xinitrc file that some of the variables defined in the file ( | sysresources=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xresources and | sysmodmap=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap ) weren't found. A quick note about these, they are in the .xinitrc/xinitrc file to be read _if_ they exist, they don't need to exist, just a cosy configuration setup.. or similar. /Andy -- Your fault -- core dumped From hyperaesthetic@hotmail.com Tue Apr 22 21:21:00 2003 From: hyperaesthetic@hotmail.com (hyperaesthetic hypra) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:21:00 -0000 Subject: can not start 'startx' from the prompt and missing files Message-ID: Well... strange thing is that startxwin.sh does work on the prompt. The 'automatic' installation has been very problematic for me in that I had to manually tweak .profile or .bashrc files to create a home directory and stuff. And the fact that I am having trouble with 'startx' did not give me a whole lot of confidence. Hence my question about it. I can probably live with this but not for long. Thanks Andy and Feng, Kiwhan _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Apr 23 11:11:00 2003 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 11:11:00 -0000 Subject: Problems configuring cygwin-xfree for XDM and non-US kbd` In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030422190720.00b2b778@mailhost.ivimey.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Ruth Ivimey-Cook wrote: > At 15:15 22/04/2003, you wrote: > >On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Ruth Ivimey-Cook wrote: > >How is /tmp mounted? I always recommend binmode. A textmode mount has led > >to errors a while ago. I don't know if they can still crash the server but > >mounting /tmp in binmode will remove this point of failure. > > How do I change what is mounted? I don't know where it's set up. > > I have this so far: > > Robinton:~ 276> mount > C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts on /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts type system > (binmode) > C:\cygwin\bin on /usr/bin type system (textmode) > C:\cygwin\lib on /usr/lib type system (textmode) > C:\cygwin on / type system (textmode) > c: on /cygdrive/c type user (textmode,noumount) > d: on /cygdrive/d type user (textmode,noumount) It's mounted in textmode. Best thing (IMO) is mount -b -s 'c:\WINNT\TEMP' /tmp If you have your temp directory anywhere else, replace the path with your tempdir. Or (to keep the cygwin tempfile in the cygwin dir) mount -b -s 'c:\cygwin\tmp' /tmp > >Does xkbcomp -xkm -m gb /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/gb.xkm work? > > I get this: > > Robinton:~ 277> xkbcomp -xkm -m gb /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/gb.xkm > Warning: No symbols defined for (keycode 130) This is ok. I guess it's the textmode mount which is the problem. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Ruth.Ivimey-Cook@ivimey.org Wed Apr 23 11:30:00 2003 From: Ruth.Ivimey-Cook@ivimey.org (Ruth Ivimey-Cook) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 11:30:00 -0000 Subject: Problems configuring cygwin-xfree for XDM and non-US kbd` In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1051097328.7404.4.camel@sharra.ivimey.org> On Wed, 2003-04-23 at 12:11, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > Iempdir. Or (to keep the cygwin tempfile in the cygwin dir) > mount -b -s 'c:\cygwin\tmp' /tmp OK, I'll do this. Thanks. Will this be persistent -- if not how do I make it so? Can I suggest that some way is found to make this mount happen binmode as part of "setup"? Ruth From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Wed Apr 23 11:44:00 2003 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 11:44:00 -0000 Subject: Problems configuring cygwin-xfree for XDM and non-US kbd` In-Reply-To: <1051097328.7404.4.camel@sharra.ivimey.org> Message-ID: On 23 Apr 2003, Ruth Ivimey-Cook wrote: > On Wed, 2003-04-23 at 12:11, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > > > Iempdir. Or (to keep the cygwin tempfile in the cygwin dir) > > mount -b -s 'c:\cygwin\tmp' /tmp > > OK, I'll do this. Thanks. Will this be persistent -- if not how do I > make it so? Cygwin's "mount" is persistent. > Can I suggest that some way is found to make this mount happen binmode > as part of "setup"? > Ruth This particular mount -- no. There is a way to make all mounts binmode -- select "Unix" line endings in the "Choose Installation Directory" box in "setup". Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty. -- Leto II From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Apr 23 11:47:00 2003 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 11:47:00 -0000 Subject: Problems configuring cygwin-xfree for XDM and non-US kbd` In-Reply-To: <1051097328.7404.4.camel@sharra.ivimey.org> Message-ID: On 23 Apr 2003, Ruth Ivimey-Cook wrote: > On Wed, 2003-04-23 at 12:11, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > > > Iempdir. Or (to keep the cygwin tempfile in the cygwin dir) > > mount -b -s 'c:\cygwin\tmp' /tmp > > OK, I'll do this. Thanks. Will this be persistent -- if not how do I > make it so? It will be persistent. > Can I suggest that some way is found to make this mount happen binmode > as part of "setup"? You can change the checkbox "unix" or "dos" in setup to select the install type. But I don't know if you can change this after you've installed cygwin. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de Wed Apr 23 13:07:00 2003 From: Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de (Benjamin Riefenstahl) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:07:00 -0000 Subject: Problems configuring cygwin-xfree for XDM and non-US kbd` In-Reply-To: <1051097328.7404.4.camel@sharra.ivimey.org> References: <1051097328.7404.4.camel@sharra.ivimey.org> Message-ID: Hi Ruth, Ruth Ivimey-Cook writes: > Can I suggest that some way is found to make this mount happen > binmode as part of "setup"? If you ask me, it would be much better to spend the time in fixing the buggy application that currently requires a binmode mount. so long, benny From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Apr 23 13:52:00 2003 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:52:00 -0000 Subject: Problems configuring cygwin-xfree for XDM and non-US kbd` In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 23 Apr 2003, Benjamin Riefenstahl wrote: > If you ask me, it would be much better to spend the time in fixing the > buggy application that currently requires a binmode mount. AFAIR it is in CVS. The 4.3.0 release should not suffer from this problem anymore. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From Ruth.Ivimey-Cook@ivimey.org Wed Apr 23 16:47:00 2003 From: Ruth.Ivimey-Cook@ivimey.org (Ruth Ivimey-Cook) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 16:47:00 -0000 Subject: Problems configuring cygwin-xfree for XDM and non-US kbd` In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030423174638.022a2ec8@mailhost.ivimey.org> At 14:52 23/04/2003, you wrote: >AFAIR it is in CVS. The 4.3.0 release should not suffer from this problem >anymore. When will we see XFree86 4.3 downloadable? Ruth From cusoop@abraxas.com Wed Apr 23 18:18:00 2003 From: cusoop@abraxas.com (Elizabeth Berry) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 18:18:00 -0000 Subject: Dog-Geisha Mating Message-ID: <20030423072001.Fn3MloOdAdD3@abraxas.com> http://dufibood.hornybeasts.net From alexkuklin@niivo.ru Wed Apr 23 18:19:00 2003 From: alexkuklin@niivo.ru (=?windows-1252?Q?=22=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F_=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F_=28?= =?windows-1252?Q?Alex_Kuklin=29=22?=) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 18:19:00 -0000 Subject: Problems configuring cygwin-xfree for XDM and non-US kbd` In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030423174638.022a2ec8@mailhost.ivimey.org> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030423174638.022a2ec8@mailhost.ivimey.org> Message-ID: <3EA6D934.4020108@niivo.ru> About non-us kb: I solved this problem by adding "xkbcomp /etc/X11/ru.xkm $DISPLAY" into /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99xfree86-common_start ru.xkm contains compiled params. Try this: $ cat > ru xkb_keycodes { include "xfree86" }; xkb_types { include "default" }; xkb_compatibility { include "default" }; xkb_symbols { include "en_US(pc105)+ru" }; xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc102)" }; ^D $ xkbcomp ru ru.xkm Now all it work fine :) WBR, Alex From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Apr 23 18:30:00 2003 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 18:30:00 -0000 Subject: Problems configuring cygwin-xfree for XDM and non-US kbd` In-Reply-To: <3EA6D934.4020108@niivo.ru> Message-ID: On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, [windows-1252] "??????? ?????? ([windows-1252] Alex Kuklin)" wrote: > About non-us kb: > > I solved this problem by adding > "xkbcomp /etc/X11/ru.xkm $DISPLAY" > into /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99xfree86-common_start This will only work for local startup. With xdm you won't get the russian layout. But it's a nice, simple idea. Thanks. > ru.xkm contains compiled params. Try this: > > $ cat > ru > xkb_keycodes { include "xfree86" }; > xkb_types { include "default" }; > xkb_compatibility { include "default" }; > xkb_symbols { include "en_US(pc105)+ru" }; > xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc102)" }; > ^D > > $ xkbcomp ru ru.xkm in most cases you could also use "setxkbmap ru". This is a bit shorter and simpler. bye ago From sb@dod.no Wed Apr 23 18:33:00 2003 From: sb@dod.no (Steinar Bang) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 18:33:00 -0000 Subject: Problems configuring cygwin-xfree for XDM and non-US kbd` References: <1051097328.7404.4.camel@sharra.ivimey.org> Message-ID: <874r4pax1v.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> >>>>> Igor Pechtchanski : > This particular mount -- no. There is a way to make all mounts > binmode -- select "Unix" line endings in the "Choose Installation > Directory" box in "setup". Is this mount thing something only cygwin programs sees, or does it affect the rest of a Win32 system? I would have thought the former, but when I changed the mount of c:\cygwin\home to be text, it seemed to me that files in a CVS directory immediately started displaying correctly in notepad (ie. without doing a CVS update, or anything). Or was I hallucinating about this...? :-) From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Apr 23 18:43:00 2003 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 18:43:00 -0000 Subject: Problems configuring cygwin-xfree for XDM and non-US kbd` In-Reply-To: <874r4pax1v.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> Message-ID: On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Steinar Bang wrote: > Is this mount thing something only cygwin programs sees, or does it > affect the rest of a Win32 system? The mount affects only cygwin programs. > I would have thought the former, but when I changed the mount of > c:\cygwin\home to be text, it seemed to me that files in a CVS > directory immediately started displaying correctly in notepad > (ie. without doing a CVS update, or anything). > > Or was I hallucinating about this...? :-) I think yes :-P But after doing a cvs update this might happen. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Apr 25 09:02:00 2003 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 09:02:00 -0000 Subject: alternative to xwinclip Message-ID: Hi, I was wondering if there is an opensource alternative to xwinclip? We have one X application where for some reason, I can't copy text from(using -clipboard) directly to windows. Instead, I have to copy and paste to an xterm first, and then copy the same text again from that xterm, before being able to paste it into windows. Unfortunately this method doesn't always work because, if you try to copy a shellscript and paste that into an xterm, it then tries to run that script! The users here also report that sometimes the paste doesn't paste all the text that was copied. I would really like to find a solution to this, as its blocking the use of XFree at my work. So any help would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks, JS. _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/mobile From alexkuklin@niivo.ru Fri Apr 25 09:07:00 2003 From: alexkuklin@niivo.ru (=?windows-1252?Q?=22=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F_=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F_=28?= =?windows-1252?Q?Alex_Kuklin=29=22?=) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 09:07:00 -0000 Subject: Problems configuring cygwin-xfree for XDM and non-US kbd` In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EA8FACF.1020404@niivo.ru> Alexander Gottwald ?????: > On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, [windows-1252] "??????? ?????? ([windows-1252] Alex Kuklin)" wrote: > > >>About non-us kb: >> >>I solved this problem by adding >>"xkbcomp /etc/X11/ru.xkm $DISPLAY" >>into /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99xfree86-common_start > > > This will only work for local startup. With xdm you won't get the russian > layout. What?! I have the number of gdm-managed x-terminals, both win and linux-based. All of them work with russian xkb this way > But it's a nice, simple idea. Thanks. Not at all :) From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Fri Apr 25 14:16:00 2003 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:16:00 -0000 Subject: alternative to xwinclip In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 25 Apr 2003, J S wrote: > Hi, > I was wondering if there is an opensource alternative to xwinclip? > > We have one X application where for some reason, I can't copy text > from(using -clipboard) directly to windows. Instead, I have to copy and > paste to an xterm first, and then copy the same text again from that xterm, > before being able to paste it into windows. Unfortunately this method > doesn't always work because, if you try to copy a shellscript and paste that > into an xterm, it then tries to run that script! The users here also report > that sometimes the paste doesn't paste all the text that was copied. > > I would really like to find a solution to this, as its blocking the use of > XFree at my work. So any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Many thanks, > JS. JS, This is not a solution, but a workaround that'll allow you to paste into an xterm: run "cat >/dev/null" first. Then paste into "cat", select and paste into Windows, then press Ctrl-C to get out of "cat". If this is a frequent problem, you might want to simply keep the xterm around with "cat" running, and use that for all your pastes. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty. -- Leto II From CHRIS.PRINGLE@INNOGY.COM Fri Apr 25 14:33:00 2003 From: CHRIS.PRINGLE@INNOGY.COM (Chris Pringle) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:33:00 -0000 Subject: Citrix Metaframe, Cygwin and X11 Message-ID: <8B6C7F755B0ED611B83F0002A58CA1F42D497E@trn2623.natpower.co.uk> Hi All, Trying to get Cygwin XFree86 to work across Citrix Metaframe. The windowing system works perfectly, however the Windows cursor is always on top of the X cursor. I have tried the -lesspointer switch and it makes no difference. 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Harold J S wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if there is an opensource alternative to xwinclip? > > We have one X application where for some reason, I can't copy text > from(using -clipboard) directly to windows. Instead, I have to copy and > paste to an xterm first, and then copy the same text again from that > xterm, before being able to paste it into windows. Unfortunately this > method doesn't always work because, if you try to copy a shellscript and > paste that into an xterm, it then tries to run that script! The users > here also report that sometimes the paste doesn't paste all the text > that was copied. > > I would really like to find a solution to this, as its blocking the use > of XFree at my work. So any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Many thanks, > > JS. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/mobile From bumag@cableone.net Fri Apr 25 17:51:00 2003 From: bumag@cableone.net (Catherine Richens) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 17:51:00 -0000 Subject: High school harassment sightings Message-ID: <20030425053129.65w1pGwIGKR0@cableone.net> http://zukeapim.scaredgirls.com/ From ADeFaria@Salira.com Fri Apr 25 18:51:00 2003 From: ADeFaria@Salira.com (Andrew DeFaria) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 18:51:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP broke Message-ID: The following situation was working: I have Windows XP running 1.3.22 and XFree85-xser 4.2.0-28. I also have another machine with Mandrake 9.1 and had configured it to host XDMCP sessions. I created a little script: rm -rf /tmp/.X11-unix xdmcp_server=earth XWin \ -fullscreen \ -screen 0 1600 1200 \ -once \ -query $xdmcp_server & When I run this script in the past I would get a fullscreen X server running and be presented with a login session. Now it just starts the X server and no XDMCP session starts. Looking over on the Mandrake system I find the following in /var/log/mdkkdm.log: Apr 25 11:49:07 mdkkdm_config[1540] error: Unrecognized section name [Desktop0] at /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc:1 The beginning of /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc looks like: [root@earth root]# head /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc [Desktop0] BackgroundMode=Flat BlendBalance=100 BlendMode=NoBlending ChangeInterval=60 Color1=33,68,156 Color2=192,192,192 CurrentWallpaper=0 LastChange=0 MinOptimizationDepth=1 Any ideas? From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Apr 25 18:56:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 18:56:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP broke In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EA984D6.5040409@msu.edu> Andrew, Sounds like a problem with your kdmrc file. Try commenting out the [Desktop0] section, or creating a backup of the original file and removing it from kdmrc. You will then have to restart kdm. I believe you can do that on Mandrake with (as root): 'service xdm restart' or perhaps 'service kdm restart'. Of course, you can always do 'init 3' followed by an 'init 5' about a minute later. Or, you can reboot. Harold Andrew DeFaria wrote: > The following situation was working: > > I have Windows XP running 1.3.22 and XFree85-xser 4.2.0-28. I also have > another machine with Mandrake 9.1 and had configured it to host XDMCP > sessions. I created a little script: > > rm -rf /tmp/.X11-unix > xdmcp_server=earth > > XWin \ > -fullscreen \ > -screen 0 1600 1200 \ > -once \ > -query $xdmcp_server & > > When I run this script in the past I would get a fullscreen X server > running and be presented with a login session. Now it just starts the X > server and no XDMCP session starts. > > Looking over on the Mandrake system I find the following in > /var/log/mdkkdm.log: > > Apr 25 11:49:07 mdkkdm_config[1540] error: Unrecognized section name > [Desktop0] at /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc:1 > > The beginning of /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc looks like: > > [root@earth root]# head /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc > [Desktop0] > BackgroundMode=Flat > BlendBalance=100 > BlendMode=NoBlending > ChangeInterval=60 > Color1=33,68,156 > Color2=192,192,192 > CurrentWallpaper=0 > LastChange=0 > MinOptimizationDepth=1 > > Any ideas? > From booker@lava.net Fri Apr 25 19:07:00 2003 From: booker@lava.net (Booker Apelin) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 19:07:00 -0000 Subject: New KDE-cygwin 3.1.1 Beta 1 release In-Reply-To: <013001c30896$c9199740$0a1c440a@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <016101c30b5d$dd8bb310$c17f4140@chocolatemeat> I've been using blackbox for months and installed the kde-cygwin beta after the announcement. It's been working good so far. It's not as fast a blackbox but so far so good. Great work. Booker > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] > On Behalf Of Ralf Habacker > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 8:17 PM > To: Kde-Cygwin; Cygwin-Xfree@Cygwin. Com > Subject: New KDE-cygwin 3.1.1 Beta 1 release > > Hi all, > > we are proud to present the first KDE 3.1.1 release of the KDE desktop > environment for cygwin/xfree. See http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/kde3/ > for > further informations. > > Read what a user reports about this new release: > > "Kudos for the new KDE 3.1.1 beta. My first install on Windows 2000 with > this went perfectly and it runs *very stable*. Very impressive. Ironic > that I ran KDE 3.1.1 before I had it running on a linux box.:)" > > Because KDE is based on cygwin and the xfree server, this is also a > success for > the whole cygwin and cygwin-xfree team. > > Thank you for all your efforts. > > Regards > Ralf > From vervoom@hotmail.com Fri Apr 25 19:32:00 2003 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 19:32:00 -0000 Subject: alternative to xwinclip Message-ID: Harold, Thanks for your reply. I wasn't aware that there were any modifications of xwinclip. I will have a search for those, though Igor's suggestion about doing 'cat > /dev/null' to paste the shellscripts into an xterm works well. The issues I have been told are : 1. You can't copy directly from the X-application to Windows. 2. You can't copy at all from windows to the X-application (even using an x-term). 3. Sometimes the text selected doesn't all get copied to the clipboard. By the way, I know xwinclip is opensource, I meant is there another opensource clipboard? I looked on sourceforge and freshmeat and found something called netclip, but development on that has now stopped, and I couldn't get it to work anyway. As for the rewrite of xwinclip, I take it noone here is working on that at the moment? What sort of things would one need to know before embarking on that (a knowledge of C goes without saying) ? JS. > >JS, > >I have talked many times about how xwinclip's functionality needs to be >rewritten in order to work somewhat properly. Check the mailing list >archives for details. > >xwinclip is opensource. Not quite sure what you meant there. > >Although, others have in the past released their own modifications to >xwinclip, some of which have not been incorporated into xwinclip. You can >search the mailing list archives for some of those versions and see if you >find one that works better for you. > >Harold > >J S wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I was wondering if there is an opensource alternative to xwinclip? >> >>We have one X application where for some reason, I can't copy text >>from(using -clipboard) directly to windows. Instead, I have to copy and >>paste to an xterm first, and then copy the same text again from that >>xterm, before being able to paste it into windows. Unfortunately this >>method doesn't always work because, if you try to copy a shellscript and >>paste that into an xterm, it then tries to run that script! The users here >>also report that sometimes the paste doesn't paste all the text that was >>copied. >> >>I would really like to find a solution to this, as its blocking the use of >>XFree at my work. So any help would be greatly appreciated. >> >>Many thanks, >> >>JS. >> >> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/mobile > _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From dan@htmlcodetutorial.com Fri Apr 25 21:16:00 2003 From: dan@htmlcodetutorial.com (Dan) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 21:16:00 -0000 Subject: Your link to validator.w3.org Message-ID: I saw your link to validator.w3.org on your webpage http://www.cygwin.com/xfree/ and thought that our site www.HTMLCodeTutorial.com may be of help to your visitors. Our users commonly comment that HTML Code Tutorial is one of the best on the web; and we recently added a Help Forum, which you can click on from the home page and get personalized help. We would be grateful for a link to our site from your site. Email me if you have any questions. Thanks, Dan From ADeFaria@Salira.com Fri Apr 25 21:54:00 2003 From: ADeFaria@Salira.com (Andrew DeFaria) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 21:54:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP broke In-Reply-To: <3EA984D6.5040409@msu.edu> References: <3EA984D6.5040409@msu.edu> Message-ID: Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Andrew, > > Sounds like a problem with your kdmrc file. Try commenting out the > [Desktop0] section, or creating a backup of the original file and > removing it from kdmrc. I tried deleting the [Desktop0] line to no avail. Also, this still works at my job where I have, again, and XP box and a Linux box running Mandrake 9.1. In comparing the kdmrc files I see that the first line is [Desktop0] both at home and at work. Don't understand why it works at work and complains at home. > You will then have to restart kdm. I believe you can do that on > Mandrake with (as root): 'service xdm restart' or perhaps 'service > kdm restart'. Actually I found that what get's run is mdkkdm and have killed it and restarted it, again, to no avail. > Of course, you can always do 'init 3' followed by an 'init 5' about a > minute later. Or, you can reboot. I've even downloaded my working kdmrc file from work to no avail. I don't think I tried rebooting yet. Note that the differences between my home kdmrc and my work kdmrc seems to be minor and trivial - thinks like users shown on the login screen and who can reboot. The README states: The configuration files in this directory were automatically generated. As the used algorithms are pretty dumb, the configuration may be broken. This configuration consists of the following files: - /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xservers - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xaccess - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xwilling - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xresources - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xsetup - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xstartup - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xreset - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xsession - /usr/share/config/kdm/backgroundrc This configuration was derived from the following files: - /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc - /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers - /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess - /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources Have a look at the program /kdm/kfrontend/genkdmconf if you want to generate another configuration. Kinda odd that /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc is generated from the same file! Also I don't have with which to generate another configuration! From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Apr 25 21:59:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 21:59:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP broke In-Reply-To: References: <3EA984D6.5040409@msu.edu> Message-ID: <3EA9AFD3.4030402@msu.edu> Andrew DeFaria wrote: > Harold L Hunt II wrote: > >> Andrew, >> >> Sounds like a problem with your kdmrc file. Try commenting out the >> [Desktop0] section, or creating a backup of the original file and >> removing it from kdmrc. > > > I tried deleting the [Desktop0] line to no avail. Also, this still works > at my job where I have, again, and XP box and a Linux box running > Mandrake 9.1. In comparing the kdmrc files I see that the first line is > [Desktop0] both at home and at work. Don't understand why it works at > work and complains at home. > Not just the line... the whole section until the next [section] label. >> You will then have to restart kdm. I believe you can do that on >> Mandrake with (as root): 'service xdm restart' or perhaps 'service >> kdm restart'. > > > Actually I found that what get's run is mdkkdm and have killed it and > restarted it, again, to no avail. > That doesn't actually work as you might think. kdm is started by a script that spawns a new kdm each time a user connects. You might have now moved your system into a sort of inconsistent state. I recommend restarting. >> Of course, you can always do 'init 3' followed by an 'init 5' about a >> minute later. Or, you can reboot. > > > I've even downloaded my working kdmrc file from work to no avail. I > don't think I tried rebooting yet. Note that the differences between my > home kdmrc and my work kdmrc seems to be minor and trivial - thinks like > users shown on the login screen and who can reboot. > > The README states: > > The configuration files in this directory were automatically generated. > As the used algorithms are pretty dumb, the configuration may be broken. > This configuration consists of the following files: > - /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc > - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xservers > - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xaccess > - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xwilling > - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xresources > - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xsetup > - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xstartup > - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xreset > - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xsession > - /usr/share/config/kdm/backgroundrc > This configuration was derived from the following files: > - /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc > - /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers > - /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess > - /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources > Have a look at the program /kdm/kfrontend/genkdmconf > if you want to generate another configuration. > > Kinda odd that /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc is generated from the same > file! Also I don't have with which to generate another > configuration! > isn't a program, it is the base of your path to KDE-Base programs. Thus, it could be /usr/bin/kdm/kfrontend/genkdmconf or /opt/kd3/bin/kdm/kfrontend/genkdmconf. Have another look around for the file. Harold From kenneth.g.lafond@intel.com Fri Apr 25 22:05:00 2003 From: kenneth.g.lafond@intel.com (Lafond, Kenneth G) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 22:05:00 -0000 Subject: X works, but xterm doesn't stay open Message-ID: <64F0F24E4646E644B6AF14331D69F841D056DD@orsmsx403.jf.intel.com> > Hey all - > I'm new to Cygwin. I've searched the web for two days, and have gone through the archives and FAQ without finding the answer to my issue. > > I have the latest Cygwin 1.3.22-1, running on Windows 2000 Sp2. I've installed all default items as well as a few others (like vim) and the full XFree subcategory. This is a fresh install. > > The symptoms: The bash shell when launched form the desktop icon works fine (mostly). It does say that "id: cannot find name for user ID 59893" and " I have no name!@ $ ". I don't know if this is a problem for xterm, since I've seen rumblings of a user/SID problem in the lists that's supposed to be fixed by a later release (which I have the latest), so I *guessing* that this is not an issue. (although if you know how to fix it, please let me know) > I used the default startxwin.bat to start X, and it came up and initialized twm and I got the outline for xterm, but when I placed the window it disappeared. I started xterm again from within twm with the same result. I set the DISPLAY variable from the bash shell (launched from windows) and tried again with the same result. > So, I changed the startxwin.bat to start wmaker instead. I got the same result with the xterm (opens and immediately closes). I'm able to run the calculator and prefrences windows in wmaker just fine, but xterm will not stay open from X or from the windows bash shell (making this slightly different symptoms than I've seen already in the list archives). > There are no error messages or error files for me to analyze (that I can find anyway). Any idea what's going on? I've posted the Xwinrl.log and the setup.log below. > > > Kenneth G Lafond > System Validation Group > 503-677-4735 - Desk > 503-677-5683 - Lab > > There are 10 kinds of people in this world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't. > > ************ BEGIN Xwinrl.log ***************** > ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens > winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 > winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning > ddxProcessArgument - screen - Found ``W D'' arg > (EE) Unable to locate/open config file > InitOutput - Error reading config file > winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP > winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines - Allowing PrimaryDD > winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0000001f > InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 > winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1024 h: 768 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1024 h: 768 > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l 0 b 715 t 0 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Returning > winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Creating primary surface > winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Created primary surface > winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Attached clipper to primary surface > winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 4072 > winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - Created shadow pitch: 4072 > winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - Created shadow stride: 1018 > winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 > winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > winFinishScreenInitFB - returning > winScreenInit - returning > InitOutput - Returning. > (EE) No primary keyboard configured > (==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard > Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null)" > winBlockHandler - Releasing pmServerStarted > winBlockHandler - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned> > ************ END Xwinrl.log ***************** > > > ************ BEGIN setup.log ***************** > 2003/04/23 14:33:29 Starting cygwin install, version 2.340.2.5 > 2003/04/23 14:33:29 Current Directory: C:\Documents and Settings\\Desktop > 2003/04/23 14:33:29 Found McAfee anti virus program > 2003/04/23 14:34:00 Disabled Anti Virus software > 2003/04/23 14:34:12 source: network install > 2003/04/23 14:34:29 root: C:\cygwin binary system > 2003/04/23 14:34:43 Selected local directory: C:\Documents and Settings\\Desktop\temp > 2003/04/23 14:34:53 net: IE5 > 2003/04/23 14:35:52 site: ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/cygwin << snipped download section >> > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 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-c /etc/postinstall/cron.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:40 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/cygwin-doc-postinstall.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:42 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/gcc-mingw.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:43 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/gnugo.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:43 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/grace.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:44 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/libgdbm-devel.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:44 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/passwd-grp.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:45 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/pinfo.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:45 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/readline.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:45 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/terminfo.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:46 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/update-info-dir.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:50 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/xerces-c-devel.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:50 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/XFree86-f100.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:51 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/XFree86-fcyr.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:51 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/XFree86-fenc.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:51 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/XFree86-fnts.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:51 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/XFree86-fscl.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:51 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/XFree86-lib.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:52 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/XFree86-xserv.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:53 Enabled Anti Virus software > 2003/04/23 15:41:53 mbox note: Installation Complete > 2003/04/23 15:41:58 Ending cygwin install > 2003/04/23 17:31:48 Starting cygwin install, version 2.340.2.5 > 2003/04/23 17:31:48 Current Directory: C:\Documents and Settings\\Desktop > 2003/04/23 17:31:48 Found McAfee anti virus program > 2003/04/23 17:31:55 Disabled Anti Virus software > 2003/04/23 17:31:56 source: network install > 2003/04/23 17:31:57 root: C:\cygwin binary system > 2003/04/23 17:32:02 Selected local directory: C:\Documents and Settings\\Desktop\temp > 2003/04/23 17:32:05 net: IE5 > 2003/04/23 17:32:14 site: ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/cygwin > 2003/04/23 17:35:12 Downloaded C:\Documents and Settings\\Desktop\temp/ftp%3a%2f%2fcsociety-ftp.ecn.purdue. edu%2fpub%2fcygwin/release/vim/vim-6.1.300-1.tar.bz2 > 2003/04/23 17:35:12 Installing file://C:\Documents and Settings\\Desktop\temp/ftp%3a%2f%2fcsociety-ftp.ecn.purdue. edu%2fpub%2fcygwin/release/vim/vim-6.1.300-1.tar.bz2 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 Visited: 113 nodes out of 264. > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 Dependency ordered install: > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 base-passwd > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libintl1 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 texinfo > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 _update-info-dir > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libiconv2 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libintl2 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 cygwin > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 ash > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 terminfo > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libncurses5 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 fileutils> > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 termcap > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 bash > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 sh-utils > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 textutils > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 findutils > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 sed > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 base-files > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 binutils > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libbz2_1 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 bzip2 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libncurses6 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 zlib > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 gettext > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libintl > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 pcre > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-xserv > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-startup-scripts > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-fnts > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-fenc > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-lib > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-etc > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-bin > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-base > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 gnugo > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 cgoban > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 clear > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 cron > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libpopt0 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 cygutils > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 less > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 groff > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 mktemp > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 gawk > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 man > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 gzip > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 newlib-man > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 cygwin-doc > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 diffutils > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 expat > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 fvwm > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 w32api > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 mingw-runtime > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 gcc-mingw > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 gcc > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libgdbm > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libgdbm3 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 gdbm > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 jpeg > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libpng12 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 openssl096 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 openssl > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 lynx > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 grace > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 grep > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 guile-doc > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 lesstif > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libdb3.1 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libgdbm-devel > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libncurses7 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libpng10 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libPropList > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libreadline4 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libreadline5 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libxerces-c21 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libxml2 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libxslt > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 lilypond-doc > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 login > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 ncurses > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 openbox > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 patch > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 perl > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 perl_manpages > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 pinfo > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 tcltk > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 python > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 readline > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 rebase > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 tar > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 tetex-doc > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 tiff > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 vim > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 which > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 WindowMaker > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 x2x > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 Xaw3d > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 xerces-c-devel > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 xerces-c-doc > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-doc > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-f100 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-fcyr > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-fscl > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-fsrv > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-html > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-jdoc > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-man > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-nest > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-prog > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-prt > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-ps > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-vfb > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-xwinclip > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 Enabled Anti Virus software > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 mbox note: Installation Complete > 2003/04/23 17:35:27 Ending cygwin install > ************ END setup.log ***************** From ADeFaria@Salira.com Fri Apr 25 22:41:00 2003 From: ADeFaria@Salira.com (Andrew DeFaria) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 22:41:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP broke In-Reply-To: <3EA9AFD3.4030402@msu.edu> References: <3EA984D6.5040409@msu.edu> <3EA9AFD3.4030402@msu.edu> Message-ID: Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Andrew DeFaria wrote: > >> Harold L Hunt II wrote: >> >>> Andrew, >>> >>> Sounds like a problem with your kdmrc file. Try commenting out the >>> [Desktop0] section, or creating a backup of the original file and >>> removing it from kdmrc. >> >> I tried deleting the [Desktop0] line to no avail. Also, this still >> works at my job where I have, again, and XP box and a Linux box >> running Mandrake 9.1. In comparing the kdmrc files I see that the >> first line is [Desktop0] both at home and at work. Don't understand >> why it works at work and complains at home. > > Not just the line... the whole section until the next [section] label. Well again the odd thing is that this section appears in my kdmrc file at work and it works fine. I first got this stuff working at work between my Mandrake Linux 9.1 box and my Windows XP box. Then I performed similar configurations at home and again, as I said before, it was working fine. Then it broke and now it complains about this [Desktop0] section (yet it does not complain about this [Desktop0] section at work). > >>> You will then have to restart kdm. I believe you can do that on >>> Mandrake with (as root): 'service xdm restart' or perhaps >>> 'service kdm restart'. >> >> Actually I found that what get's run is mdkkdm and have killed it and >> restarted it, again, to no avail. > > That doesn't actually work as you might think. kdm is started by a > script that spawns a new kdm each time a user connects. You might > have now moved your system into a sort of inconsistent state. I > recommend restarting. Well I will try restarting however when I started this there was no kdm process running other than the mdkkdm, which appears to be Mandrake's (mdk) version of kdm. Also, in the past I was able to kill and restart mdkkdm and get things working. It would be nice if man mdkkdm worked! :-( > >>> Of course, you can always do 'init 3' followed by an 'init 5' about >>> a minute later. Or, you can reboot. >> >> I've even downloaded my working kdmrc file from work to no avail. I >> don't think I tried rebooting yet. Note that the differences between >> my home kdmrc and my work kdmrc seems to be minor and trivial - >> thinks like users shown on the login screen and who can reboot. >> >> The README states: >> >> The configuration files in this directory were automatically generated. >> As the used algorithms are pretty dumb, the configuration may be broken. >> This configuration consists of the following files: >> - /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc >> - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xservers >> - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xaccess >> - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xwilling >> - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xresources >> - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xsetup >> - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xstartup >> - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xreset >> - /usr/share/config/kdm/Xsession >> - /usr/share/config/kdm/backgroundrc >> This configuration was derived from the following files: >> - /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc >> - /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers >> - /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess >> - /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources >> Have a look at the program /kdm/kfrontend/genkdmconf >> if you want to generate another configuration. >> >> Kinda odd that /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc is generated from the same >> file! Also I don't have with which to generate >> another configuration! > > isn't a program, it is the base of your path to > KDE-Base programs. Thus, it could be > /usr/bin/kdm/kfrontend/genkdmconf or > /opt/kd3/bin/kdm/kfrontend/genkdmconf. I realize that is a path name and not a program. I took to mean the base of where you put the sources for kde. I have not installed the sources for kde! A search for a file named genkdmconf yeilds nothing! BTW service [xdm|kdm|mdkkdm] restart all yeild: Cannot find [xdm|kdm|mdkkdm] service. man service yeilds No manual entry for service From lopezmurphy@recrear.org.ar Fri Apr 25 23:53:00 2003 From: lopezmurphy@recrear.org.ar (Lopez Murphy) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 23:53:00 -0000 Subject: Porque Votar a Lopez Murphy Message-ID: <2453374-220034525232642540@athlon-2g> Por que votar a Lopez Murphy? La vigencia plena de la Constitucion, la etica en la administracion de lo publico, una justicia independiente y el respeto absoluto de las libertades, derechos y garantias de los ciudadanos son principios que no estan ligados a ninguna ideologia ni plataforma electoral. A lo largo de muchas decadas, los argentinos hemos peleado por esos principios desde diferentes espacios. Despues de veinte anos de democracia, sin embargo, estos principios parecen haberse perdido en el olvido. Una ruptura ilegitima en el orden democratico dio paso a la pelea entre caudillos por el poder. Hoy nos encontramos frente a una encrucijada que definira el futuro de nuestro pais, y que puede significar una oportunidad para el reestablecimiento de esos principios o la continuidad de una decadencia que supo gestarse a traves de mafias y desilusiones. Hoy, entonces, los argentinos debemos tomar algunas decisiones fundamentales. La primera de ellas es consolidar de manera indubitable, plena, lisa, llana y sin condiciones, el ordenamiento juridico constitucional del pais y reconocer a las normas y a la ley como principio superior a cualquier interes o conveniencia. Las siguientes son la reinstauracion cierta de la etica administrativa y una justicia sana e independiente, sin cuya vigilancia el caracter ejemplificador de la vida publica se transforma en el contra-ejemplo de descomposicion, al mostrar a los ciudadanos la inoperancia de la ley frente a quienes la transgreden. Lo ocurrido en Catamarca es un ejemplo que puede generalizarse. Frente a tales desafios, la indeferencia es una deslealtad a nuestra historia y a nuestros compatriotas. En realidad no puede llevarnos a restar el apoyo que podamos brindar a un llamado patriotico, como sera la eleccion presidencial proxima, en la que debemos poner el cimiento de la reconstruccion argentina ofreciendo una opcion posible frente a todo lo que no queremos y que esta a la vista. Por esas consideraciones, por la Constitucion Nacional, por el estado de derecho, por la moral administrativa, por la justicia sana e independiente, por una convivencia en la que el hombre sea la base igualitaria del orden juridico y social, por el respeto a las libertades, derechos y garantias de las personas, en sintesis, por los ideales de toda nuestra vida, es que hoy respaldamos la candidatura presidencial de Ricardo Lopez Murphy, a quien consideramos, tanto por su ideario como por su testimonio de coherencia y valentia, la mejor opcion para conducir una argentina moderna, racional, respetuosa y respetada no solo en la region y en el mundo, sino -y principalmente- por sus propios ciudadanos. From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Apr 26 03:16:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (huntharo@msu.edu) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 03:16:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 Message-ID: BULLSHIT.... HEHEHEHE From cgf@cygwin.com Sat Apr 26 03:45:00 2003 From: cgf@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 03:45:00 -0000 Subject: [ADMINISTRIVIA] request to cygwin-xfree readers Message-ID: <20030426034602.GA16811@redhat.com> Could I ask everyone who is so inclined to send email to abuse@pacbell.net complaining about this email? 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Thanks. cgf On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 08:16:05PM -0700, huntharo@msu.edu wrote: >Return-Path: >X-Sieve: cmu-sieve 2.0 >Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) > by pobox.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h3Q3GEB31540 > for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2003 23:16:14 -0400 >Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [172.16.48.31]) > by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h3Q3GEq12051 > for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2003 23:16:14 -0400 >Received: from sources.redhat.com (sources.redhat.com [66.187.233.205]) > by mx1.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h3Q3GED23930 > for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2003 23:16:14 -0400 >Message-Id: <200304260316.h3Q3GED23930@mx1.redhat.com> >Received: (qmail 25793 invoked by alias); 26 Apr 2003 03:16:08 -0000 >Mailing-List: contact cygwin-xfree-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: > >List-Subscribe: >List-Archive: >List-Post: >List-Help: , >Sender: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com >Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Received: (qmail 25776 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2003 03:16:06 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO ) (63.204.119.30) > by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 26 Apr 2003 03:16:06 -0000 >From: huntharo@msu.edu >To: "cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com" >Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 >Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 20:16:05 -0700 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >X-Priority: 3 >X-GCMulti: 1 >X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.1 required=5.0 > tests=BAYES_30,MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_2,NO_REAL_NAME, > PRIORITY_NO_NAME,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL,X_GCMULTI > version=2.53 >X-Spam-Level: *** >X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) > >BULLSHIT.... HEHEHEHE __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From early@respower.com Sat Apr 26 19:51:00 2003 From: early@respower.com (Early Ehlinger) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 19:51:00 -0000 Subject: REPOST: -multiwindow so very close to what's really needed.... Message-ID: Sorry for the repost - It's been a few days and I haven't seen my original post show up on the newsserver, so.... OK, Just installed latest cygwin+Xfree86. With the -multiwindow option in place it's *extremely* close to what I really want, which is an X server that really feels like it's a part of Windows. Right now it still betrays the fact that it sits on top of cygwin, which is a shame, IMHO. Here are the two things that I think keep it from being exactly dead-on: 1. Root Window is still there. Ideally, when -multiwindow is used, no root window would be visible at all. No icon in the taskbar, nothing. I suppose a tray icon would be acceptible, but would certainly not be preferable. My reasoning for this is that Windows already has a root window (the desktop) and to be fully integrated, X programs should behave like Windows programs and use it. Or at least, they should *appear* to use it. Bottom line, get rid of/hide the root window in -multiwindow mode and you've made a *huge* step forward. Another consequence of this issue is that Cygwin/XFree86 shows up in the alt+tab list even though you don't do anything with it directly. 2. Applications have the wrong icons Sure, now I've got my apps all running on the honest-to-goodness Windows desktop, but they all have the X icon rather than the icons that they would have on an actual X desktop (e.g., the one in Linux). This is more of a cosmetic issue than a functional one, so I'd say that it should get less priority than the first issue above. If somebody wants to point me to the general location in XWin's source, I wouldn't mind taking a crack at implementing a fix for both of these issues. Thanks in advance -- -- Early Ehlinger CEO, ResPower Inc - Toll-Free : 866-737-7697 -- www.respower.com -- 500+ GHz Supercomputer Starting At USD$0.50/GHz*Hour From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Apr 26 19:58:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 19:58:00 -0000 Subject: REPOST: -multiwindow so very close to what's really needed.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EAAE4F4.3050307@msu.edu> Early, Early Ehlinger wrote: > Sorry for the repost - It's been a few days and I haven't seen my original > post show up on the newsserver, so.... > > OK, > > Just installed latest cygwin+Xfree86. With the -multiwindow option in place > it's *extremely* close to what I really want, which is an X server that > really feels like it's a part of Windows. Right now it still betrays the > fact that it sits on top of cygwin, which is a shame, IMHO. > > Here are the two things that I think keep it from being exactly dead-on: > > 1. Root Window is still there. > > Ideally, when -multiwindow is used, no root window would be visible at all. > No icon in the taskbar, nothing. I suppose a tray icon would be acceptible, > but would certainly not be preferable. My reasoning for this is that > Windows already has a root window (the desktop) and to be fully integrated, > X programs should behave like Windows programs and use it. Or at least, > they should *appear* to use it. Bottom line, get rid of/hide the root > window in -multiwindow mode and you've made a *huge* step forward. > Ideally, you will be spending a few hours looking at hiding the root window. :) Search the mailing list archives for information on why it is not hidden yet. Also note that MultiWindow mode is still experimental. That is, it is not complete. > Another consequence of this issue is that Cygwin/XFree86 shows up in the > alt+tab list even though you don't do anything with it directly. > > 2. Applications have the wrong icons > > Sure, now I've got my apps all running on the honest-to-goodness Windows > desktop, but they all have the X icon rather than the icons that they would > have on an actual X desktop (e.g., the one in Linux). This is more of a > cosmetic issue than a functional one, so I'd say that it should get less > priority than the first issue above. > This wouldn't be too tough to implement, but I haven't got time for it. > If somebody wants to point me to the general location in XWin's source, I > wouldn't mind taking a crack at implementing a fix for both of these issues. > First, check the Contributor's Guide, which tells you how to get the source, the architecture of the server (doesn't talk about MultiWindow mode), and how to build the source: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/ Perhaps you are using Cygwin/XFree86 for commercial purposes... if that is the case then I know that either myself, Kensuke Matsuzaki (the developer of MultiWindow mode), or others may be interested in working on these features for a fee. Let us know if you are interested, otherwise we will assume that you are not interested. Harold > Thanks in advance > > -- > -- Early Ehlinger CEO, ResPower Inc - Toll-Free : 866-737-7697 > -- www.respower.com -- 500+ GHz Supercomputer Starting At USD$0.50/GHz*Hour > > > > > From bijumaillist@yahoo.com Sun Apr 27 15:30:00 2003 From: bijumaillist@yahoo.com (Biju G C) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 15:30:00 -0000 Subject: Unofficial Newsgroups In-Reply-To: <3EAAE4F4.3050307@msu.edu> Message-ID: <20030427153013.78611.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> To who ever maintains pages at http://cygwin.com/ Unofficial Newsgroup is mentioned on the menu at http://cygwin.com/ Can you also provide the same at http://cygwin.com/xfree/ And we could change the links to http://news.gmane.org/?match=cygwin to do filter on "cygwin" Also under http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-newsgroup >>1.8. Is there a Cygwin/XFree86 newsgroup? >> >>No, Cygwin/XFree86 does not have a newsgroup; however, >>we do have a mailing list. See Q: 1.9. Why not mention the following as Unofficial Newsgroup nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.cygwin.xfree http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.os.cygwin.xfree Alternately we can maintain a page showing list of all unofficial newsgroups and maillist for Cygwin. It will be useful for those who are looking for information on a specific area Like one for postgresql & KDE http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.comp.db.postgresql.cygwin http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.comp.kde.devel.cygwin I am ready to contribute my time for this. cheers biju __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From bijumaillist@yahoo.com Sun Apr 27 17:48:00 2003 From: bijumaillist@yahoo.com (Biju G C) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 17:48:00 -0000 Subject: REPOST: -multiwindow so very close to what's really needed.... In-Reply-To: <3EAAE4F4.3050307@msu.edu> Message-ID: <20030427174811.9474.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> Early, currenly -rootless option will prevent showing the root window. (I prefer showing root window as in -multiwindow option but I face some problem while draging in -multiwindow mode) Harold, can we have an option at "control box menu" of Cygwin/XFree86 to switch -rootless option on/off cheers biju PS: control box menu :- the menu we see when we right click a taskbar item. to do "Restore", "Move", "Size", "Close" etc. --- Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Early, > > Early Ehlinger wrote: > > Sorry for the repost - It's been a few days and I haven't seen my original > > post show up on the newsserver, so.... > > > > OK, > > > > Just installed latest cygwin+Xfree86. With the -multiwindow option in place > > it's *extremely* close to what I really want, which is an X server that > > really feels like it's a part of Windows. Right now it still betrays the > > fact that it sits on top of cygwin, which is a shame, IMHO. > > > > Here are the two things that I think keep it from being exactly dead-on: > > > > 1. Root Window is still there. > > > > Ideally, when -multiwindow is used, no root window would be visible at all. > > No icon in the taskbar, nothing. I suppose a tray icon would be acceptible, > > but would certainly not be preferable. My reasoning for this is that > > Windows already has a root window (the desktop) and to be fully integrated, > > X programs should behave like Windows programs and use it. Or at least, > > they should *appear* to use it. Bottom line, get rid of/hide the root > > window in -multiwindow mode and you've made a *huge* step forward. > > > > Ideally, you will be spending a few hours looking at hiding the root > window. :) Search the mailing list archives for information on why it > is not hidden yet. Also note that MultiWindow mode is still > experimental. That is, it is not complete. > > > Another consequence of this issue is that Cygwin/XFree86 shows up in the > > alt+tab list even though you don't do anything with it directly. > > > > 2. Applications have the wrong icons > > > > Sure, now I've got my apps all running on the honest-to-goodness Windows > > desktop, but they all have the X icon rather than the icons that they would > > have on an actual X desktop (e.g., the one in Linux). This is more of a > > cosmetic issue than a functional one, so I'd say that it should get less > > priority than the first issue above. > > > > This wouldn't be too tough to implement, but I haven't got time for it. > > > If somebody wants to point me to the general location in XWin's source, I > > wouldn't mind taking a crack at implementing a fix for both of these issues. > > > > First, check the Contributor's Guide, which tells you how to get the > source, the architecture of the server (doesn't talk about MultiWindow > mode), and how to build the source: > > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/ > > > Perhaps you are using Cygwin/XFree86 for commercial purposes... if that > is the case then I know that either myself, Kensuke Matsuzaki (the > developer of MultiWindow mode), or others may be interested in working > on these features for a fee. Let us know if you are interested, > otherwise we will assume that you are not interested. > > Harold > > > Thanks in advance __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From ihok@hotmail.com Sun Apr 27 18:15:00 2003 From: ihok@hotmail.com (Jack Tanner) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 18:15:00 -0000 Subject: xfree crash Message-ID: 1. ssh -X into Redhat 9 box. 2. run OpenOffice.org (oowriter [document]) 3. Edit-Select All (or Ctrl-A). 4. boom. Xfree86-serv 4.2.0-30. xwinrl.log attached. -JT _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: XWinrl.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 3318 bytes Desc: not available URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Apr 27 19:56:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 19:56:00 -0000 Subject: REPOST: -multiwindow so very close to what's really needed.... In-Reply-To: <20030427174811.9474.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030427174811.9474.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3EAC35FA.4020704@msu.edu> Biju, Biju G C wrote: > Early, > currenly -rootless option will prevent showing the root window. > (I prefer showing root window as in -multiwindow option > but I face some problem while draging in -multiwindow mode) > You should not use -rootless and -multiwindow together. They are not compatible. > Harold, > can we have an option at "control box menu" of Cygwin/XFree86 > to switch -rootless option on/off > Easy to talk about... but still takes many hours to implement. Harold > cheers > biju > > PS: control box menu :- > the menu we see when we right click a taskbar item. > to do "Restore", "Move", "Size", "Close" etc. > > > --- Harold L Hunt II wrote: > >>Early, >> >>Early Ehlinger wrote: >> >>>Sorry for the repost - It's been a few days and I haven't seen my original >>>post show up on the newsserver, so.... >>> >>>OK, >>> >>>Just installed latest cygwin+Xfree86. With the -multiwindow option in place >>>it's *extremely* close to what I really want, which is an X server that >>>really feels like it's a part of Windows. Right now it still betrays the >>>fact that it sits on top of cygwin, which is a shame, IMHO. >>> >>>Here are the two things that I think keep it from being exactly dead-on: >>> >>>1. Root Window is still there. >>> >>>Ideally, when -multiwindow is used, no root window would be visible at all. >>>No icon in the taskbar, nothing. I suppose a tray icon would be acceptible, >>>but would certainly not be preferable. My reasoning for this is that >>>Windows already has a root window (the desktop) and to be fully integrated, >>>X programs should behave like Windows programs and use it. Or at least, >>>they should *appear* to use it. Bottom line, get rid of/hide the root >>>window in -multiwindow mode and you've made a *huge* step forward. >>> >> >>Ideally, you will be spending a few hours looking at hiding the root >>window. :) Search the mailing list archives for information on why it >>is not hidden yet. Also note that MultiWindow mode is still >>experimental. That is, it is not complete. >> >> >>>Another consequence of this issue is that Cygwin/XFree86 shows up in the >>>alt+tab list even though you don't do anything with it directly. >>> >>>2. Applications have the wrong icons >>> >>>Sure, now I've got my apps all running on the honest-to-goodness Windows >>>desktop, but they all have the X icon rather than the icons that they would >>>have on an actual X desktop (e.g., the one in Linux). This is more of a >>>cosmetic issue than a functional one, so I'd say that it should get less >>>priority than the first issue above. >>> >> >>This wouldn't be too tough to implement, but I haven't got time for it. >> >> >>>If somebody wants to point me to the general location in XWin's source, I >>>wouldn't mind taking a crack at implementing a fix for both of these issues. >>> >> >>First, check the Contributor's Guide, which tells you how to get the >>source, the architecture of the server (doesn't talk about MultiWindow >>mode), and how to build the source: >> >>http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/ >> >> >>Perhaps you are using Cygwin/XFree86 for commercial purposes... if that >>is the case then I know that either myself, Kensuke Matsuzaki (the >>developer of MultiWindow mode), or others may be interested in working >>on these features for a fee. Let us know if you are interested, >>otherwise we will assume that you are not interested. >> >>Harold >> >> >>>Thanks in advance > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > http://search.yahoo.com From cgf@redhat.com Mon Apr 28 01:08:00 2003 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 01:08:00 -0000 Subject: REPOST: -multiwindow so very close to what's really needed.... In-Reply-To: <3EAC35FA.4020704@msu.edu> References: <20030427174811.9474.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> <3EAC35FA.4020704@msu.edu> Message-ID: <20030428010920.GA24568@redhat.com> On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 03:56:42PM -0400, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >>can we have an option at "control box menu" of Cygwin/XFree86 to switch >>-rootless option on/off > >Easy to talk about... but still takes many hours to implement. It's been many hours since that message. I assume you're nearing completion, right? :-) cgf From cgf@redhat.com Mon Apr 28 01:11:00 2003 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 01:11:00 -0000 Subject: Unofficial Newsgroups In-Reply-To: <20030427153013.78611.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3EAAE4F4.3050307@msu.edu> <20030427153013.78611.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030428011228.GA24469@redhat.com> On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 08:30:13AM -0700, Biju G C wrote: >And we could change the links to http://news.gmane.org/?match=cygwin >to do filter on "cygwin" Done. cgf From huntharo@excite.com Mon Apr 28 01:38:00 2003 From: huntharo@excite.com (Harold) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 01:38:00 -0000 Subject: [ANOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/Xfree new Server Message-ID: <20030428013806.450213DD5@xmxpita.excite.com> NEW Server is OUT FOR BULLSHITERS TO TRY..... HEHEHEHE _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! From huntharo@excite.com Mon Apr 28 01:39:00 2003 From: huntharo@excite.com (Harold) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 01:39:00 -0000 Subject: REPOST: -multiwindow so very close to what's really needed.... Message-ID: <20030428013858.47AF33DE0@xmxpita.excite.com> BULLSHIT HEHEHEHE -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 6:09 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: REPOST: -multiwindow so very close to what's really needed.... On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 03:56:42PM -0400, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >>can we have an option at "control box menu" of Cygwin/XFree86 to switch >>-rootless option on/off > >Easy to talk about... but still takes many hours to implement. It's been many hours since that message. I assume you're nearing completion, right? :-) cgf Biju, Biju G C wrote: > Early, > currenly -rootless option will prevent showing the root window. > (I prefer showing root window as in -multiwindow option > but I face some problem while draging in -multiwindow mode) > You should not use -rootless and -multiwindow together. They are not compatible. > Harold, > can we have an option at "control box menu" of Cygwin/XFree86 > to switch -rootless option on/off > Easy to talk about... but still takes many hours to implement. Harold > cheers > biju > > PS: control box menu :- > the menu we see when we right click a taskbar item. > to do "Restore", "Move", "Size", "Close" etc. > > > --- Harold L Hunt II wrote: > >>Early, >> >>Early Ehlinger wrote: >> >>>Sorry for the repost - It's been a few days and I haven't seen my original >>>post show up on the newsserver, so.... >>> >>>OK, >>> >>>Just installed latest cygwin+Xfree86. With the -multiwindow option in place >>>it's *extremely* close to what I really want, which is an X server that >>>really feels like it's a part of Windows. Right now it still betrays the >>>fact that it sits on top of cygwin, which is a shame, IMHO. >>> >>>Here are the two things that I think keep it from being exactly dead-on: >>> >>>1. Root Window is still there. >>> >>>Ideally, when -multiwindow is used, no root window would be visible at all. >>>No icon in the taskbar, nothing. I suppose a tray icon would be acceptible, >>>but would certainly not be preferable. My reasoning for this is that >>>Windows already has a root window (the desktop) and to be fully integrated, >>>X programs should behave like Windows programs and use it. Or at least, >>>they should *appear* to use it. Bottom line, get rid of/hide the root >>>window in -multiwindow mode and you've made a *huge* step forward. >>> >> >>Ideally, you will be spending a few hours looking at hiding the root >>window. :) Search the mailing list archives for information on why it >>is not hidden yet. Also note that MultiWindow mode is still >>experimental. That is, it is not complete. >> >> >>>Another consequence of this issue is that Cygwin/XFree86 shows up in the >>>alt+tab list even though you don't do anything with it directly. >>> >>>2. Applications have the wrong icons >>> >>>Sure, now I've got my apps all running on the honest-to-goodness Windows >>>desktop, but they all have the X icon rather than the icons that they would >>>have on an actual X desktop (e.g., the one in Linux). This is more of a >>>cosmetic issue than a functional one, so I'd say that it should get less >>>priority than the first issue above. >>> >> >>This wouldn't be too tough to implement, but I haven't got time for it. >> >> >>>If somebody wants to point me to the general location in XWin's source, I >>>wouldn't mind taking a crack at implementing a fix for both of these issues. >>> >> >>First, check the Contributor's Guide, which tells you how to get the >>source, the architecture of the server (doesn't talk about MultiWindow >>mode), and how to build the source: >> >>http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/ >> >> >>Perhaps you are using Cygwin/XFree86 for commercial purposes... if that >>is the case then I know that either myself, Kensuke Matsuzaki (the >>developer of MultiWindow mode), or others may be interested in working >>on these features for a fee. Let us know if you are interested, >>otherwise we will assume that you are not interested. >> >>Harold >> >> >>>Thanks in advance > > > _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! From huntharo@excite.com Mon Apr 28 01:46:00 2003 From: huntharo@excite.com (Harold) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 01:46:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin/xfree Help Message-ID: <20030428014602.349E53DB1@xmxpita.excite.com> Cygwin/Xfree86 System Error!!! Microsoft Windows Sexually Desparate Protection Mode Rejected A Message Sent From You!!! Kiss my bullshit and Try Someone Else!!! Bye!!! _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! From huntharo@excite.com Mon Apr 28 01:55:00 2003 From: huntharo@excite.com (Harold) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 01:55:00 -0000 Subject: REPOST: -multiwindow so very close to what's really needed.... Message-ID: <20030428015535.A257E3DB1@xmxpita.excite.com> Early, BUULSHIT..... I AINT GONNA HELP UNLESS YA PAY ME $$$$$$ HEHEHEHEHE Early Ehlinger wrote: Sorry for the repost - It's been a few days and I haven't seen my original post show up on the newsserver, so.... OK, Just installed latest cygwin+Xfree86. With the -multiwindow option in place it's *extremely* close to what I really want, which is an X server that really feels like it's a part of Windows. Right now it still betrays the fact that it sits on top of cygwin, which is a shame, IMHO. Here are the two things that I think keep it from being exactly dead-on: 1. Root Window is still there. Ideally, when -multiwindow is used, no root window would be visible at all. No icon in the taskbar, nothing. I suppose a tray icon would be acceptible, but would certainly not be preferable. My reasoning for this is that Windows already has a root window (the desktop) and to be fully integrated, X programs should behave like Windows programs and use it. Or at least, they should *appear* to use it. Bottom line, get rid of/hide the root window in -multiwindow mode and you've made a *huge* step forward. Ideally, you will be spending a few hours looking at hiding the root window. :) Search the mailing list archives for information on why it is not hidden yet. Also note that MultiWindow mode is still experimental. That is, it is not complete. Another consequence of this issue is that Cygwin/XFree86 shows up in the alt+tab list even though you don't do anything with it directly. 2. Applications have the wrong icons Sure, now I've got my apps all running on the honest-to-goodness Windows desktop, but they all have the X icon rather than the icons that they would have on an actual X desktop (e.g., the one in Linux). This is more of a cosmetic issue than a functional one, so I'd say that it should get less priority than the first issue above. This wouldn't be too tough to implement, but I haven't got time for it. If somebody wants to point me to the general location in XWin's source, I wouldn't mind taking a crack at implementing a fix for both of these issues. First, check the Contributor's Guide, which tells you how to get the source, the architecture of the server (doesn't talk about MultiWindow mode), and how to build the source: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/ Perhaps you are using Cygwin/XFree86 for commercial purposes... if that is the case then I know that either myself, Kensuke Matsuzaki (the developer of MultiWindow mode), or others may be interested in working on these features for a fee. Let us know if you are interested, otherwise we will assume that you are not interested. Harold Thanks in advance -- -- Early Ehlinger CEO, ResPower Inc - Toll-Free : 866-737-7697 -- www.respower.com -- 500+ GHz Supercomputer Starting At USD$0.50/GHz*Hour _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! From bmj2001@bellsouth.net Mon Apr 28 02:09:00 2003 From: bmj2001@bellsouth.net (Robert McNulty Junior) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 02:09:00 -0000 Subject: REPOST: -multiwindow so very close to what's really needed.... In-Reply-To: <20030428015535.A257E3DB1@xmxpita.excite.com> Message-ID: shut up, impersonator. YOU ARE THE BULLSHIT ARTIST. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 8:56 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: REPOST: -multiwindow so very close to what's really needed.... Early, BUULSHIT..... I AINT GONNA HELP UNLESS YA PAY ME $$$$$$ HEHEHEHEHE Early Ehlinger wrote: Sorry for the repost - It's been a few days and I haven't seen my original post show up on the newsserver, so.... OK, Just installed latest cygwin+Xfree86. With the -multiwindow option in place it's *extremely* close to what I really want, which is an X server that really feels like it's a part of Windows. Right now it still betrays the fact that it sits on top of cygwin, which is a shame, IMHO. Here are the two things that I think keep it from being exactly dead-on: 1. Root Window is still there. Ideally, when -multiwindow is used, no root window would be visible at all. No icon in the taskbar, nothing. I suppose a tray icon would be acceptible, but would certainly not be preferable. My reasoning for this is that Windows already has a root window (the desktop) and to be fully integrated, X programs should behave like Windows programs and use it. Or at least, they should *appear* to use it. Bottom line, get rid of/hide the root window in -multiwindow mode and you've made a *huge* step forward. Ideally, you will be spending a few hours looking at hiding the root window. :) Search the mailing list archives for information on why it is not hidden yet. Also note that MultiWindow mode is still experimental. That is, it is not complete. Another consequence of this issue is that Cygwin/XFree86 shows up in the alt+tab list even though you don't do anything with it directly. 2. Applications have the wrong icons Sure, now I've got my apps all running on the honest-to-goodness Windows desktop, but they all have the X icon rather than the icons that they would have on an actual X desktop (e.g., the one in Linux). This is more of a cosmetic issue than a functional one, so I'd say that it should get less priority than the first issue above. This wouldn't be too tough to implement, but I haven't got time for it. If somebody wants to point me to the general location in XWin's source, I wouldn't mind taking a crack at implementing a fix for both of these issues. First, check the Contributor's Guide, which tells you how to get the source, the architecture of the server (doesn't talk about MultiWindow mode), and how to build the source: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/ Perhaps you are using Cygwin/XFree86 for commercial purposes... if that is the case then I know that either myself, Kensuke Matsuzaki (the developer of MultiWindow mode), or others may be interested in working on these features for a fee. Let us know if you are interested, otherwise we will assume that you are not interested. Harold Thanks in advance -- -- Early Ehlinger CEO, ResPower Inc - Toll-Free : 866-737-7697 -- www.respower.com -- 500+ GHz Supercomputer Starting At USD$0.50/GHz*Hour _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Apr 28 03:41:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 03:41:00 -0000 Subject: REPOST: -multiwindow so very close to what's really needed.... In-Reply-To: <20030428010920.GA24568@redhat.com> References: <20030427174811.9474.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> <3EAC35FA.4020704@msu.edu> <20030428010920.GA24568@redhat.com> Message-ID: <3EACA304.50701@msu.edu> Heh heh... Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 03:56:42PM -0400, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > >>>can we have an option at "control box menu" of Cygwin/XFree86 to switch >>>-rootless option on/off >> >>Easy to talk about... but still takes many hours to implement. > > > It's been many hours since that message. I assume you're nearing completion, > right? :-) > > cgf From kenneth.g.lafond@intel.com Mon Apr 28 17:07:00 2003 From: kenneth.g.lafond@intel.com (Lafond, Kenneth G) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 17:07:00 -0000 Subject: X works, but xterm doesn't stay open Message-ID: <64F0F24E4646E644B6AF14331D69F841D056FE@orsmsx403.jf.intel.com> I think I found part of the bug. Does anyone know the maximum number of users (ie the highest UID) Cygwin can handle before 'wrapping', specifically in a domain environment? Ken -----Original Message----- From: Lafond, Kenneth G Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:06 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: X works, but xterm doesn't stay open > Hey all - > I'm new to Cygwin. I've searched the web for two days, and have gone through the archives and FAQ without finding the answer to my issue. > > I have the latest Cygwin 1.3.22-1, running on Windows 2000 Sp2. I've installed all default items as well as a few others (like vim) and the full XFree subcategory. This is a fresh install. > > The symptoms: The bash shell when launched form the desktop icon works fine (mostly). It does say that "id: cannot find name for user ID 59893" and " I have no name!@ $ ". I don't know if this is a problem for xterm, since I've seen rumblings of a user/SID problem in the lists that's supposed to be fixed by a later release (which I have the latest), so I *guessing* that this is not an issue. (although if you know how to fix it, please let me know) > I used the default startxwin.bat to start X, and it came up and initialized twm and I got the outline for xterm, but when I placed the window it disappeared. I started xterm again from within twm with the same result. I set the DISPLAY variable from the bash shell (launched from windows) and tried again with the same result. > So, I changed the startxwin.bat to start wmaker instead. I got the same result with the xterm (opens and immediately closes). I'm able to run the calculator and prefrences windows in wmaker just fine, but xterm will not stay open from X or from the windows bash shell (making this slightly different symptoms than I've seen already in the list archives). > There are no error messages or error files for me to analyze (that I can find anyway). Any idea what's going on? I've posted the Xwinrl.log and the setup.log below. > > > Kenneth G Lafond > System Validation Group > 503-677-4735 - Desk > 503-677-5683 - Lab > > There are 10 kinds of people in this world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't. > > ************ BEGIN Xwinrl.log ***************** > ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens > winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 > winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning > ddxProcessArgument - screen - Found ``W D'' arg > (EE) Unable to locate/open config file > InitOutput - Error reading config file > winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP > winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines - Allowing PrimaryDD > winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0000001f > InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 > winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1024 h: 768 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1024 h: 768 > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l 0 b 715 t 0 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Returning > winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Creating primary surface > winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Created primary surface > winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Attached clipper to primary surface > winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 4072 > winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - Created shadow pitch: 4072 > winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - Created shadow stride: 1018 > winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 > winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > winFinishScreenInitFB - returning > winScreenInit - returning > InitOutput - Returning. > (EE) No primary keyboard configured > (==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard > Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(null)" > winBlockHandler - Releasing pmServerStarted > winBlockHandler - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned> > ************ END Xwinrl.log ***************** > > > ************ BEGIN setup.log ***************** > 2003/04/23 14:33:29 Starting cygwin install, version 2.340.2.5 > 2003/04/23 14:33:29 Current Directory: C:\Documents and Settings\\Desktop > 2003/04/23 14:33:29 Found McAfee anti virus program > 2003/04/23 14:34:00 Disabled Anti Virus software > 2003/04/23 14:34:12 source: network install > 2003/04/23 14:34:29 root: C:\cygwin binary system > 2003/04/23 14:34:43 Selected local directory: C:\Documents and Settings\\Desktop\temp > 2003/04/23 14:34:53 net: IE5 > 2003/04/23 14:35:52 site: ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/cygwin << snipped download section >> > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 Visited: 112 nodes out of 264. > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 Dependency ordered install: > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 ash > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 base-files > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 base-passwd > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 bash > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 binutils > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 bzip2 > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 cgoban > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 clear > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 cron > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 cygutils > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 cygwin > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 cygwin-doc > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 diffutils > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 expat > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 fileutils > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 findutils > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 fvwm > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 gawk > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 gcc > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 gcc-mingw > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 gdbm > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 gettext > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 gnugo > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 grace > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 grep > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 groff > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 guile-doc > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 gzip > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 jpeg > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 less > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 lesstif > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 libbz2_1 > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 libdb3.1 > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 libgdbm > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 libgdbm-devel > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 libgdbm3 > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 libiconv2 > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 libintl > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 libintl1 > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 libintl2 > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 libncurses5 > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 libncurses6 > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 libncurses7 > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 libpng10 > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 libpng12 > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 libpopt0 > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 libPropList > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 libreadline4 > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 libreadline5 > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 libxerces-c21 > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 libxml2 > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 libxslt > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 lilypond-doc > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 login > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 lynx > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 man > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 mingw-runtime > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 mktemp > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 ncurses > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 newlib-man > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 openbox > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 openssl > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 openssl096 > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 patch > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 pcre > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 perl > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 perl_manpages > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 pinfo > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 python > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 readline > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 rebase > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 sed > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 sh-utils > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 tar > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 tcltk > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 termcap > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 terminfo > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 tetex-doc > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 texinfo > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 textutils > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 tiff > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 w32api > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 which > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 WindowMaker > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 x2x > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 Xaw3d > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 xerces-c-devel > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 xerces-c-doc > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-base > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-bin > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-doc > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-etc > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-f100 > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-fcyr > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-fenc > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-fnts > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-fscl > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-fsrv > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-html > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-jdoc > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-lib> > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-man > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-nest > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-prog > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-prt > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-ps > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-startup-scripts > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-vfb > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-xserv > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-xwinclip > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 zlib > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 _update-info-dir > 2003/04/23 15:41:30 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/base-files-mketc.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:37 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/base-files-profile.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:39 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/bzip2.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:39 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/cgoban.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:40 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/cron.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:40 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/cygwin-doc-postinstall.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:42 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/gcc-mingw.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:43 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/gnugo.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:43 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/grace.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:44 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/libgdbm-devel.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:44 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/passwd-grp.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:45 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/pinfo.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:45 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/readline.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:45 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/terminfo.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:46 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/update-info-dir.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:50 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/xerces-c-devel.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:50 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/XFree86-f100.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:51 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/XFree86-fcyr.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:51 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/XFree86-fenc.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:51 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/XFree86-fnts.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:51 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/XFree86-fscl.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:51 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/XFree86-lib.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:52 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/XFree86-xserv.sh > 2003/04/23 15:41:53 Enabled Anti Virus software > 2003/04/23 15:41:53 mbox note: Installation Complete > 2003/04/23 15:41:58 Ending cygwin install > 2003/04/23 17:31:48 Starting cygwin install, version 2.340.2.5 > 2003/04/23 17:31:48 Current Directory: C:\Documents and Settings\\Desktop > 2003/04/23 17:31:48 Found McAfee anti virus program > 2003/04/23 17:31:55 Disabled Anti Virus software > 2003/04/23 17:31:56 source: network install > 2003/04/23 17:31:57 root: C:\cygwin binary system > 2003/04/23 17:32:02 Selected local directory: C:\Documents and Settings\\Desktop\temp > 2003/04/23 17:32:05 net: IE5 > 2003/04/23 17:32:14 site: ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/cygwin > 2003/04/23 17:35:12 Downloaded C:\Documents and Settings\\Desktop\temp/ftp%3a%2f%2fcsociety-ftp.ecn.purdue. edu%2fpub%2fcygwin/release/vim/vim-6.1.300-1.tar.bz2 > 2003/04/23 17:35:12 Installing file://C:\Documents and Settings\\Desktop\temp/ftp%3a%2f%2fcsociety-ftp.ecn.purdue. edu%2fpub%2fcygwin/release/vim/vim-6.1.300-1.tar.bz2 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 Visited: 113 nodes out of 264. > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 Dependency ordered install: > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 base-passwd > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libintl1 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 texinfo > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 _update-info-dir > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libiconv2 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libintl2 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 cygwin > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 ash > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 terminfo > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libncurses5 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 fileutils> > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 termcap > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 bash > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 sh-utils > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 textutils > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 findutils > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 sed > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 base-files > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 binutils > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libbz2_1 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 bzip2 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libncurses6 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 zlib > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 gettext > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libintl > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 pcre > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-xserv > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-startup-scripts > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-fnts > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-fenc > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-lib > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-etc > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-bin > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-base > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 gnugo > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 cgoban > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 clear > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 cron > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libpopt0 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 cygutils > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 less > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 groff > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 mktemp > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 gawk > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 man > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 gzip > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 newlib-man > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 cygwin-doc > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 diffutils > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 expat > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 fvwm > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 w32api > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 mingw-runtime > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 gcc-mingw > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 gcc > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libgdbm > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libgdbm3 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 gdbm > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 jpeg > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libpng12 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 openssl096 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 openssl > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 lynx > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 grace > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 grep > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 guile-doc > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 lesstif > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libdb3.1 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libgdbm-devel > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libncurses7 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libpng10 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libPropList > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libreadline4 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libreadline5 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libxerces-c21 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libxml2 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 libxslt > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 lilypond-doc > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 login > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 ncurses > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 openbox > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 patch > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 perl > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 perl_manpages > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 pinfo > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 tcltk > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 python > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 readline > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 rebase > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 tar > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 tetex-doc > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 tiff > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 vim > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 which > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 WindowMaker > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 x2x > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 Xaw3d > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 xerces-c-devel > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 xerces-c-doc > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-doc > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-f100 > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-fcyr > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-fscl > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-fsrv > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-html > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-jdoc > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-man > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-nest > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-prog > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-prt > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-ps > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-vfb > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-xwinclip > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 Enabled Anti Virus software > 2003/04/23 17:35:25 mbox note: Installation Complete > 2003/04/23 17:35:27 Ending cygwin install > ************ END setup.log ***************** From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Apr 28 17:26:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 17:26:00 -0000 Subject: X works, but xterm doesn't stay open In-Reply-To: <64F0F24E4646E644B6AF14331D69F841D056FE@orsmsx403.jf.intel.com> References: <64F0F24E4646E644B6AF14331D69F841D056FE@orsmsx403.jf.intel.com> Message-ID: <3EAD6460.3030606@msu.edu> Ken, Sounds like you have a generic Cygwin setup issue. What you need to do is, from a Cygwin bash shell: mkpasswd -d -u %my_user_name% >> /etc/passwd This will append info for your domain user account to the /etc/passwd file. You need to do this for every domain user that will use Cygwin on that machine. Alternatively, you can leave off the -u and get a complete list of domain users. You should also run the following to get a complete list of domain groups: mkgroup -d >> /etc/passwd I think that xterm has a problem with starting when your user account cannot be found. This likely explains your problem. Harold PS. A guy in the MSU CS Master's program said he was going to an internship for Intel in one validation group or another. Is your group in Oregon... I am pretty sure that is where he was heading? Lafond, Kenneth G wrote: > I think I found part of the bug. Does anyone know the maximum number of > users (ie the highest UID) Cygwin can handle before 'wrapping', specifically > in a domain environment? > > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lafond, Kenneth G > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:06 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: X works, but xterm doesn't stay open > > > >>Hey all - >> I'm new to Cygwin. I've searched the web for two days, and have > > gone through the archives and FAQ without finding the answer to my issue. > >> I have the latest Cygwin 1.3.22-1, running on Windows 2000 Sp2. > > I've installed all default items as well as a few others (like vim) and the > full XFree subcategory. This is a fresh install. > >> The symptoms: The bash shell when launched form the desktop icon > > works fine (mostly). It does say that "id: cannot find name for user ID > 59893" and " I have no name!@ $ ". I don't know if this is a > problem for xterm, since I've seen rumblings of a user/SID problem in the > lists that's supposed to be fixed by a later release (which I have the > latest), so I *guessing* that this is not an issue. (although if you know > how to fix it, please let me know) > >> I used the default startxwin.bat to start X, and it came up and > > initialized twm and I got the outline for xterm, but when I placed the > window it disappeared. I started xterm again from within twm with the same > result. I set the DISPLAY variable from the bash shell (launched from > windows) and tried again with the same result. > >> So, I changed the startxwin.bat to start wmaker instead. I got the > > same result with the xterm (opens and immediately closes). I'm able to run > the calculator and prefrences windows in wmaker just fine, but xterm will > not stay open from X or from the windows bash shell (making this slightly > different symptoms than I've seen already in the list archives). > >> There are no error messages or error files for me to analyze (that I > > can find anyway). Any idea what's going on? I've posted the Xwinrl.log and > the setup.log below. > >> >>Kenneth G Lafond >>System Validation Group >>503-677-4735 - Desk >>503-677-5683 - Lab >> >>There are 10 kinds of people in this world: Those who understand binary, > > and those who don't. > >>************ BEGIN Xwinrl.log ***************** >>ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens >>winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1024 h 768 >>winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning >>ddxProcessArgument - screen - Found ``W D'' arg >>(EE) Unable to locate/open config file >>InitOutput - Error reading config file >>winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP >>winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed >>winDetectSupportedEngines - Allowing PrimaryDD >>winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed >>winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0000001f >>InitOutput - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1 >>winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking >>winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per > > pixel > >>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1024 h: 768 >>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1024 h: 768 >>winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 >>winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 >>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l 0 b > > 715 t 0 > >>winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Returning >>winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Creating primary surface >>winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Created primary surface >>winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Attached clipper to primary surface >>winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 4072 >>winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - Created shadow pitch: 4072 >>winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - Created shadow stride: 1018 >>winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff >>winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 > > bpp 32 > >>winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () >>winFinishScreenInitFB - returning >>winScreenInit - returning >>InitOutput - Returning. >>(EE) No primary keyboard configured >>(==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard >>Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options > > = "(null)" > >>winBlockHandler - Releasing pmServerStarted >>winBlockHandler - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned> >>************ END Xwinrl.log ***************** >> >> >>************ BEGIN setup.log ***************** >>2003/04/23 14:33:29 Starting cygwin install, version 2.340.2.5 >>2003/04/23 14:33:29 Current Directory: C:\Documents and > > Settings\\Desktop > >>2003/04/23 14:33:29 Found McAfee anti virus program >>2003/04/23 14:34:00 Disabled Anti Virus software >>2003/04/23 14:34:12 source: network install >>2003/04/23 14:34:29 root: C:\cygwin binary system >>2003/04/23 14:34:43 Selected local directory: C:\Documents and > > Settings\\Desktop\temp > >>2003/04/23 14:34:53 net: IE5 >>2003/04/23 14:35:52 site: ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/cygwin > > << snipped download section >> > >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 Visited: 112 nodes out of 264. >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 Dependency ordered install: >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 ash >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 base-files >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 base-passwd >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 bash >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 binutils >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 bzip2 >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 cgoban >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 clear >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 cron >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 cygutils >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 cygwin >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 cygwin-doc >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 diffutils >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 expat >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 fileutils >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 findutils >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 fvwm >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 gawk >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 gcc >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 gcc-mingw >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 gdbm >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 gettext >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 gnugo >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 grace >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 grep >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 groff >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 guile-doc >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 gzip >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 jpeg >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 less 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XFree86-fcyr >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-fenc >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-fnts >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-fscl >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-fsrv >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-html >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-jdoc >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-lib> >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-man >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-nest >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-prog >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-prt >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-ps >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-startup-scripts >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-vfb >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-xserv >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 XFree86-xwinclip >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 zlib >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 _update-info-dir >>2003/04/23 15:41:30 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c > > /etc/postinstall/base-files-mketc.sh > >>2003/04/23 15:41:37 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c > > /etc/postinstall/base-files-profile.sh > >>2003/04/23 15:41:39 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c > > /etc/postinstall/bzip2.sh > >>2003/04/23 15:41:39 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c > > 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/etc/postinstall/update-info-dir.sh > >>2003/04/23 15:41:50 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c > > /etc/postinstall/xerces-c-devel.sh > >>2003/04/23 15:41:50 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c > > /etc/postinstall/XFree86-f100.sh > >>2003/04/23 15:41:51 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c > > /etc/postinstall/XFree86-fcyr.sh > >>2003/04/23 15:41:51 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c > > /etc/postinstall/XFree86-fenc.sh > >>2003/04/23 15:41:51 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c > > /etc/postinstall/XFree86-fnts.sh > >>2003/04/23 15:41:51 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c > > /etc/postinstall/XFree86-fscl.sh > >>2003/04/23 15:41:51 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c > > /etc/postinstall/XFree86-lib.sh > >>2003/04/23 15:41:52 running: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c > > /etc/postinstall/XFree86-xserv.sh > >>2003/04/23 15:41:53 Enabled Anti Virus software >>2003/04/23 15:41:53 mbox note: Installation Complete >>2003/04/23 15:41:58 Ending cygwin install >>2003/04/23 17:31:48 Starting cygwin install, version 2.340.2.5 >>2003/04/23 17:31:48 Current Directory: C:\Documents and > > Settings\\Desktop > >>2003/04/23 17:31:48 Found McAfee anti virus program >>2003/04/23 17:31:55 Disabled Anti Virus software >>2003/04/23 17:31:56 source: network install >>2003/04/23 17:31:57 root: C:\cygwin binary system >>2003/04/23 17:32:02 Selected local directory: C:\Documents and > > Settings\\Desktop\temp > >>2003/04/23 17:32:05 net: IE5 >>2003/04/23 17:32:14 site: ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/cygwin >>2003/04/23 17:35:12 Downloaded C:\Documents and > > Settings\\Desktop\temp/ftp%3a%2f%2fcsociety-ftp.ecn.purdue. > edu%2fpub%2fcygwin/release/vim/vim-6.1.300-1.tar.bz2 > >>2003/04/23 17:35:12 Installing file://C:\Documents and > > Settings\\Desktop\temp/ftp%3a%2f%2fcsociety-ftp.ecn.purdue. > edu%2fpub%2fcygwin/release/vim/vim-6.1.300-1.tar.bz2 > >>2003/04/23 17:35:25 Visited: 113 nodes out of 264. >>2003/04/23 17:35:25 Dependency ordered install: >>2003/04/23 17:35:25 base-passwd >>2003/04/23 17:35:25 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>>2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-doc >>2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-f100 >>2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-fcyr >>2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-fscl >>2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-fsrv >>2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-html >>2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-jdoc >>2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-man >>2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-nest >>2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-prog >>2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-prt >>2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-ps >>2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-vfb >>2003/04/23 17:35:25 XFree86-xwinclip >>2003/04/23 17:35:25 Enabled Anti Virus software >>2003/04/23 17:35:25 mbox note: Installation Complete >>2003/04/23 17:35:27 Ending cygwin install >>************ END setup.log ***************** From kenneth.g.lafond@intel.com Mon Apr 28 17:45:00 2003 From: kenneth.g.lafond@intel.com (Lafond, Kenneth G) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 17:45:00 -0000 Subject: X works, but xterm doesn't stay open (solution/bug report) Message-ID: <64F0F24E4646E644B6AF14331D69F841D05700@orsmsx403.jf.intel.com> There is a limitation in Cygwin in for userIDs (although it may actually lie within 'id'). I've found the issue. Here was the problem: The Cygwin installer gave me a user ID of 190965 (in /etc/passwd). That's 10000 more than in my SID. The group also got 10000 added to it, so I'm assuming this is a magic number indicating a domain account (which I have - a LARGE domain). Whenever I tried to log in, I'd always get the error I described below: "id: cannot find name for user ID 59893" and " I have no name!@ $ " I didn't know where the 59893 was coming from. After much messing around I noticed that the number in the error tracker the userID. I finally decided to change my userID to 1 in /etc/passwd to see what number I got back from 'id' - and the whole thing JUST WORKED. I was suprised, so I did some testing to make sure it works, and then did a little math: My ID was 190956, minus the error given 59893 gives: 19065-59893 = 131072. >From the ntsec discussion on the web, "If another user (or a Windows group, treated as a user) is not present in /etc/passwd, the user id of that user will have a special value of -1 (which would be shown by ls as 65535)." I knew the point at which a positive number becomes negative (ie Cygwin uses a SIGNED SHORT for the userID) it's at 65535. Add one to 65535 because 0 is one of the integers. Well, guess what: 65536*2 = 131072. That matches the number above and finds the relationship and discrepency between the 'id' error and my user ID. Changing the user ID to 1 made it smaller than the critical wrapping number and so it works. It works with any ID between 1 and 65534 (65535 is the ?????? user per the ntsec docs, and 65536 starts this wrapping bug giving an error of not being able to find user 0). Wrapping issues are not uncommon - rsync and pop3 had the same problem about a year or two ago. Suggestion: Extend the userID field to be a signed INT instead of a SHORT. That'll give 2147483648 users before we run into problems. If the issue is with 'id' then maybe someone can tell me who to talk to to fix it? Kenneth G Lafond System Validation Group Validation Lead Intel Corporation -----Original Message----- From: Lafond, Kenneth G Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 10:06 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: RE: X works, but xterm doesn't stay open I think I found part of the bug. Does anyone know the maximum number of users (ie the highest UID) Cygwin can handle before 'wrapping', specifically in a domain environment? Ken -----Original Message----- From: Lafond, Kenneth G Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:06 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: X works, but xterm doesn't stay open > Hey all - > I'm new to Cygwin. I've searched the web for two days, and have gone through the archives and FAQ without finding the answer to my issue. > > I have the latest Cygwin 1.3.22-1, running on Windows 2000 Sp2. I've installed all default items as well as a few others (like vim) and the full XFree subcategory. This is a fresh install. > > The symptoms: The bash shell when launched form the desktop icon works fine (mostly). It does say that "id: cannot find name for user ID 59893" and " I have no name!@ $ ". I don't know if this is a problem for xterm, since I've seen rumblings of a user/SID problem in the lists that's supposed to be fixed by a later release (which I have the latest), so I *guessing* that this is not an issue. (although if you know how to fix it, please let me know) > I used the default startxwin.bat to start X, and it came up and initialized twm and I got the outline for xterm, but when I placed the window it disappeared. I started xterm again from within twm with the same result. I set the DISPLAY variable from the bash shell (launched from windows) and tried again with the same result. > So, I changed the startxwin.bat to start wmaker instead. I got the same result with the xterm (opens and immediately closes). I'm able to run the calculator and prefrences windows in wmaker just fine, but xterm will not stay open from X or from the windows bash shell (making this slightly different symptoms than I've seen already in the list archives). > There are no error messages or error files for me to analyze (that I can find anyway). Any idea what's going on? I've posted the Xwinrl.log and the setup.log below. > > > Kenneth G Lafond > System Validation Group From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Apr 28 17:51:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 17:51:00 -0000 Subject: X works, but xterm doesn't stay open (solution/bug report) In-Reply-To: <64F0F24E4646E644B6AF14331D69F841D05700@orsmsx403.jf.intel.com> References: <64F0F24E4646E644B6AF14331D69F841D05700@orsmsx403.jf.intel.com> Message-ID: <3EAD6A3B.8090804@msu.edu> Ken, Sounds like you have found a legitimate problem. However, this problem is with Cygwin proper, not with Cygwin/XFree86. As such, it should probably be discussed on the Cygwin mailing list (cygwin@cygwin.com). Additionally, you should do a search of the Cygiwn mailing list archives to see if the issue has already been discussed: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/ If not, could you please resend your message to cygwin@cygwin.com? I would rather that you resend it, as opposed to me forwarding it, since forwarded messages between these lists tend to get ignored. Thanks for using Cygwin/XFree86, Harold Lafond, Kenneth G wrote: > There is a limitation in Cygwin in for userIDs (although it may actually lie > within 'id'). I've found the issue. Here was the problem: > > The Cygwin installer gave me a user ID of 190965 (in /etc/passwd). That's > 10000 more than in my SID. The group also got 10000 added to it, so I'm > assuming this is a magic number indicating a domain account (which I have - > a LARGE domain). Whenever I tried to log in, I'd always get the error I > described below: > "id: cannot find name for user ID 59893" and " I have no name!@ > $ " > I didn't know where the 59893 was coming from. After much messing around I > noticed that the number in the error tracker the userID. I finally decided > to change my userID to 1 in /etc/passwd to see what number I got back from > 'id' - and the whole thing JUST WORKED. > > I was suprised, so I did some testing to make sure it works, and then did a > little math: > > My ID was 190956, minus the error given 59893 gives: > 19065-59893 = 131072. > > From the ntsec discussion on the web, > "If another user (or a Windows group, treated as a user) is not present in > /etc/passwd, the user id of that user will have a special value of -1 (which > would be shown by ls as 65535)." > I knew the point at which a positive number becomes negative (ie Cygwin uses > a SIGNED SHORT for the userID) it's at 65535. Add one to 65535 because 0 is > one of the integers. > Well, guess what: > 65536*2 = 131072. > > That matches the number above and finds the relationship and discrepency > between the 'id' error and my user ID. Changing the user ID to 1 made it > smaller than the critical wrapping number and so it works. It works with > any ID between 1 and 65534 (65535 is the ?????? user per the ntsec docs, and > 65536 starts this wrapping bug giving an error of not being able to find > user 0). > > Wrapping issues are not uncommon - rsync and pop3 had the same problem about > a year or two ago. > > Suggestion: Extend the userID field to be a signed INT instead of a SHORT. > That'll give 2147483648 users before we run into problems. If the issue is > with 'id' then maybe someone can tell me who to talk to to fix it? > > Kenneth G Lafond > System Validation Group > Validation Lead > Intel Corporation > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lafond, Kenneth G > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 10:06 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: X works, but xterm doesn't stay open > > > I think I found part of the bug. Does anyone know the maximum number of > users (ie the highest UID) Cygwin can handle before 'wrapping', specifically > in a domain environment? > > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lafond, Kenneth G > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:06 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: X works, but xterm doesn't stay open > > > >>Hey all - >> I'm new to Cygwin. I've searched the web for two days, and have > > gone through the archives and FAQ without finding the answer to my issue. > >> I have the latest Cygwin 1.3.22-1, running on Windows 2000 Sp2. > > I've installed all default items as well as a few others (like vim) and the > full XFree subcategory. This is a fresh install. > >> The symptoms: The bash shell when launched form the desktop icon > > works fine (mostly). It does say that "id: cannot find name for user ID > 59893" and " I have no name!@ $ ". I don't know if this is a > problem for xterm, since I've seen rumblings of a user/SID problem in the > lists that's supposed to be fixed by a later release (which I have the > latest), so I *guessing* that this is not an issue. (although if you know > how to fix it, please let me know) > >> I used the default startxwin.bat to start X, and it came up and > > initialized twm and I got the outline for xterm, but when I placed the > window it disappeared. I started xterm again from within twm with the same > result. I set the DISPLAY variable from the bash shell (launched from > windows) and tried again with the same result. > >> So, I changed the startxwin.bat to start wmaker instead. I got the > > same result with the xterm (opens and immediately closes). I'm able to run > the calculator and prefrences windows in wmaker just fine, but xterm will > not stay open from X or from the windows bash shell (making this slightly > different symptoms than I've seen already in the list archives). > >> There are no error messages or error files for me to analyze (that I > > can find anyway). Any idea what's going on? I've posted the Xwinrl.log and > the setup.log below. > >> >>Kenneth G Lafond >>System Validation Group From kenneth.g.lafond@intel.com Mon Apr 28 18:47:00 2003 From: kenneth.g.lafond@intel.com (Lafond, Kenneth G) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 18:47:00 -0000 Subject: X works, but xterm doesn't stay open (solution/bug report) Message-ID: <64F0F24E4646E644B6AF14331D69F841D05703@orsmsx403.jf.intel.com> Ok, thanks. Will do. Ken -----Original Message----- From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 10:52 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: X works, but xterm doesn't stay open (solution/bug report) Ken, Sounds like you have found a legitimate problem. However, this problem is with Cygwin proper, not with Cygwin/XFree86. As such, it should probably be discussed on the Cygwin mailing list (cygwin@cygwin.com). Additionally, you should do a search of the Cygiwn mailing list archives to see if the issue has already been discussed: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/ If not, could you please resend your message to cygwin@cygwin.com? I would rather that you resend it, as opposed to me forwarding it, since forwarded messages between these lists tend to get ignored. Thanks for using Cygwin/XFree86, Harold Lafond, Kenneth G wrote: > There is a limitation in Cygwin in for userIDs (although it may actually lie > within 'id'). I've found the issue. Here was the problem: > > The Cygwin installer gave me a user ID of 190965 (in /etc/passwd). That's > 10000 more than in my SID. The group also got 10000 added to it, so I'm > assuming this is a magic number indicating a domain account (which I have - > a LARGE domain). Whenever I tried to log in, I'd always get the error I > described below: > "id: cannot find name for user ID 59893" and " I have no name!@ > $ " > I didn't know where the 59893 was coming from. After much messing around I > noticed that the number in the error tracker the userID. I finally decided > to change my userID to 1 in /etc/passwd to see what number I got back from > 'id' - and the whole thing JUST WORKED. > > I was suprised, so I did some testing to make sure it works, and then did a > little math: > > My ID was 190956, minus the error given 59893 gives: > 19065-59893 = 131072. > > From the ntsec discussion on the web, > "If another user (or a Windows group, treated as a user) is not present in > /etc/passwd, the user id of that user will have a special value of -1 (which > would be shown by ls as 65535)." > I knew the point at which a positive number becomes negative (ie Cygwin uses > a SIGNED SHORT for the userID) it's at 65535. Add one to 65535 because 0 is > one of the integers. > Well, guess what: > 65536*2 = 131072. > > That matches the number above and finds the relationship and discrepency > between the 'id' error and my user ID. Changing the user ID to 1 made it > smaller than the critical wrapping number and so it works. It works with > any ID between 1 and 65534 (65535 is the ?????? user per the ntsec docs, and > 65536 starts this wrapping bug giving an error of not being able to find > user 0). > > Wrapping issues are not uncommon - rsync and pop3 had the same problem about > a year or two ago. > > Suggestion: Extend the userID field to be a signed INT instead of a SHORT. > That'll give 2147483648 users before we run into problems. If the issue is > with 'id' then maybe someone can tell me who to talk to to fix it? > > Kenneth G Lafond > System Validation Group > Validation Lead > Intel Corporation > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lafond, Kenneth G > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 10:06 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: X works, but xterm doesn't stay open > > > I think I found part of the bug. Does anyone know the maximum number of > users (ie the highest UID) Cygwin can handle before 'wrapping', specifically > in a domain environment? > > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lafond, Kenneth G > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:06 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: X works, but xterm doesn't stay open > > > >>Hey all - >> I'm new to Cygwin. I've searched the web for two days, and have > > gone through the archives and FAQ without finding the answer to my issue. > >> I have the latest Cygwin 1.3.22-1, running on Windows 2000 Sp2. > > I've installed all default items as well as a few others (like vim) and the > full XFree subcategory. This is a fresh install. > >> The symptoms: The bash shell when launched form the desktop icon > > works fine (mostly). It does say that "id: cannot find name for user ID > 59893" and " I have no name!@ $ ". I don't know if this is a > problem for xterm, since I've seen rumblings of a user/SID problem in the > lists that's supposed to be fixed by a later release (which I have the > latest), so I *guessing* that this is not an issue. (although if you know > how to fix it, please let me know) > >> I used the default startxwin.bat to start X, and it came up and > > initialized twm and I got the outline for xterm, but when I placed the > window it disappeared. I started xterm again from within twm with the same > result. I set the DISPLAY variable from the bash shell (launched from > windows) and tried again with the same result. > >> So, I changed the startxwin.bat to start wmaker instead. I got the > > same result with the xterm (opens and immediately closes). I'm able to run > the calculator and prefrences windows in wmaker just fine, but xterm will > not stay open from X or from the windows bash shell (making this slightly > different symptoms than I've seen already in the list archives). > >> There are no error messages or error files for me to analyze (that I > > can find anyway). Any idea what's going on? I've posted the Xwinrl.log and > the setup.log below. > >> >>Kenneth G Lafond >>System Validation Group From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Mon Apr 28 19:08:00 2003 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:08:00 -0000 Subject: xfree crash In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hijack! Ooops, sorry; Hi Jack. I *think* I reported the same bug a while ago. I believe it is due to XWin crashing when it tries to copy a big block of text into the clipboard. Try a small document, and it'll probably work instead. Alternatively, if you MUST copy a huge block of text, do it one small block at a time. I'm not a cygwin developer, but I am in the process of putting together a development environment to investigate this and other strange things I've noticed. Sadly though, as I have very little time these days, it might be a while before I arrive at any result. -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jack Tanner Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 2:15 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: xfree crash 1. ssh -X into Redhat 9 box. 2. run OpenOffice.org (oowriter [document]) 3. Edit-Select All (or Ctrl-A). 4. boom. Xfree86-serv 4.2.0-30. xwinrl.log attached. -JT _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From early@respower.com Mon Apr 28 21:33:00 2003 From: early@respower.com (Early Ehlinger) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:33:00 -0000 Subject: REPOST: -multiwindow so very close to what's really needed.... References: <3EAAE4F4.3050307@msu.edu> Message-ID: "Harold L Hunt II" wrote: > Ideally, you will be spending a few hours looking at hiding the root > window. :) Search the mailing list archives for information on why it > is not hidden yet. Also note that MultiWindow mode is still > experimental. That is, it is not complete. It's close enough to complete to be of general utility to me :) I've got a patch written but am waiting for what seems like an eternity to get the thing compiled. If only cygwin's make supported distributed compiling; I've only got 250+ computers at my disposal :) The patch took all of 10 minutes once I figured out where it was supposed to go. Of course, if I'm wrong about where it goes it will take me a bit longer to figure out where to hack it in, but I'm reasonably confident that the basic code is correct... Basically, it creates a tray icon and then hides the root window. When you right-click on the icon, it should pop up a menu with one item on it, "Exit." Anyways, once it finishes compiling I'll test it out and report my results; if I've got it right, I'll post some code. -- -- Early Ehlinger CEO, ResPower Inc - Toll-Free : 866-737-7697 -- www.respower.com -- 500+ GHz Supercomputer Starting At USD$0.50/GHz*Hour From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Apr 28 21:49:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:49:00 -0000 Subject: REPOST: -multiwindow so very close to what's really needed.... In-Reply-To: References: <3EAAE4F4.3050307@msu.edu> Message-ID: <3EADA1CB.4040605@msu.edu> Early, That sounds great! I always try to encourage people to write patches on their own. It really is surprisingly easy if you just dive in and start reading the code and the comments (plus the Contributor's Guide holds your hand through building the source). Let us know if you have any trouble getting your patch to work. We can definitely help out on the details. Eager to see your results, Harold Early Ehlinger wrote: > "Harold L Hunt II" wrote: > >>Ideally, you will be spending a few hours looking at hiding the root >>window. :) Search the mailing list archives for information on why it >>is not hidden yet. Also note that MultiWindow mode is still >>experimental. That is, it is not complete. > > > It's close enough to complete to be of general utility to me :) > > I've got a patch written but am waiting for what seems like an eternity to > get the thing compiled. If only cygwin's make supported distributed > compiling; I've only got 250+ computers at my disposal :) > > The patch took all of 10 minutes once I figured out where it was supposed to > go. Of course, if I'm wrong about where it goes it will take me a bit > longer to figure out where to hack it in, but I'm reasonably confident that > the basic code is correct... Basically, it creates a tray icon and then > hides the root window. When you right-click on the icon, it should pop up a > menu with one item on it, "Exit." > > Anyways, once it finishes compiling I'll test it out and report my results; > if I've got it right, I'll post some code. > > -- > -- Early Ehlinger CEO, ResPower Inc - Toll-Free : 866-737-7697 > -- www.respower.com -- 500+ GHz Supercomputer Starting At USD$0.50/GHz*Hour > > > > From John.Morrison@uk.experian.com Tue Apr 29 07:15:00 2003 From: John.Morrison@uk.experian.com (Morrison, John) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 07:15:00 -0000 Subject: REPOST: -multiwindow so very close to what's really needed... . Message-ID: Early Ehlinger wrote: > I've got a patch written but am waiting for what seems like an > eternity to get the thing compiled. If only cygwin's make supported > distributed compiling; I've only got 250+ computers at my disposal :) distcc (apparently) works OOTB. It'd be nice to have that as a package if you're offering ;) "distcc is developed on GNU/Linux, but has been reported to work on other systems including FreeBSD, Solaris, and Cygwin." J. ======================================================================= Information in this email and any attachments are confidential, and may not be copied or used by anyone other than the addressee, nor disclosed to any third party without our permission. There is no intention to create any legally binding contract or other commitment through the use of this email. Experian Limited (registration number 653331). Registered office: Talbot House, Talbot Street, Nottingham NG1 5HF From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 29 15:50:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 15:50:00 -0000 Subject: REPOST: -multiwindow so very close to what's really needed... . In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EAE9F4B.5080209@msu.edu> Oh yeah... Early, I forgot to tell you to copy xc/config/cf/xf86site.def to xc/config/cf/host.def. Then uncomment the line around 410 that reads: #define BuildFonts NO That will save you, potentially, hours of compile time. The fonts don't need to be rebuilt because you aren't working on them and you should already have a copy of them installed. Harold Morrison, John wrote: > Early Ehlinger wrote: > >>I've got a patch written but am waiting for what seems like an >>eternity to get the thing compiled. If only cygwin's make supported >>distributed compiling; I've only got 250+ computers at my disposal :) > > > distcc (apparently) works OOTB. It'd be nice to have that as > a package if you're offering ;) > > > > "distcc is developed on GNU/Linux, but has been reported to work on > other systems including FreeBSD, Solaris, and Cygwin." > > J. > > > ======================================================================= > Information in this email and any attachments are confidential, and may > not be copied or used by anyone other than the addressee, nor disclosed > to any third party without our permission. There is no intention to > create any legally binding contract or other commitment through the use > of this email. > Experian Limited (registration number 653331). > Registered office: Talbot House, Talbot Street, Nottingham NG1 5HF From karl@waclawek.net Tue Apr 29 20:36:00 2003 From: karl@waclawek.net (Karl Waclawek) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 20:36:00 -0000 Subject: "no buffer space available" on Win2K Message-ID: <003a01c30e8f$02a759e0$9e539696@citkwaclaww2k> I just downloaded the newest XFree86 packages from Cygwin. My system is Win2K Pro, ServicePack 3. I am connecting remotely to a RedHat 7.3 box. All seems to work fine at first, but after a while I get a "no buffer space available" error, and from then on most Internet access gets hosed and I have to reboot the machine. I tried connecting through telnet and ssh from within the X session, as well as using PuTTY from Windows directly (in both, Telnet and SSH mode). In all cases do I get the same error, however, it seems that it happens more quickly when using SSH. Where should I be looking to fix my setup/configuration, that is, if it can be fixed? I would be grateful for any pointers, Karl From early@respower.com Tue Apr 29 20:45:00 2003 From: early@respower.com (Early Ehlinger) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 20:45:00 -0000 Subject: PATCH: -multiwindow with root window hidden... Message-ID: Alright! I'm having good results with my attempt to hide the root window when running in -multiwindow mode. I've got it to where when I use the startxwin batch file that gets set up during the cygwin install, XWin.exe adds a tray icon and hides its root window. The batch file then launches an xterm and it shows up and works fine. I can then launch more xterms, ssl sessions, redirect galeon from my linux box, etc. The patch needs a few tweaks before I will feel comfortable releasing it: 1. Right now simply clicking on the icon closes it. This was more a matter of laziness than anything else. It takes a half a second to put the WM_CLOSE post and a *lot* longer to generate the menus and whatnot. 2. It currently hides the root window indiscriminately. That is, it assumes that -multiwindow is on the command line, creates the tray icon and hides the root window without checking that assumption at all. This was more due to my lack of familiarity with the code. I didn't quite know what variables to look for and frankly didn't care since I'm only planning on running with the -multiwindow switch anyway ;) If somebody wants to tackle this, my approach would be to add a new command line switch, say -trayicon, so that you would launch XWin.exe with: XWin.exe -trayicon -multiwindow -nowinkill -clipboard Except for these two caveats, I'm quite happy with the new behavior. I'd still like to see different icons for each X Window, but that is much less important to me than getting rid of that annoying root window, so I won't tackle that one for a *very* long time, if ever. I won't be able to work on this again for a while - I've got it where I need it for my purposes and my time is *very* limited. So, if anybody wants to try it out with the knowledge that these two problems exist, or wants to take over development to remove these problems, here are the changes I made: in x-devel/build/std/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winwndproc.c: add the following just after the other #includes: #include void init_notify_icon( HWND hwnd ) { NOTIFYICONDATA nid = {0}; nid.cbSize = sizeof( nid ); nid.hWnd = hwnd; nid.uID = 0; nid.uFlags = NIF_ICON | NIF_MESSAGE | NIF_TIP /* | NIF_INFO */; nid.uCallbackMessage = WM_APP; nid.hIcon = LoadIcon(g_hInstance, MAKEINTRESOURCE(IDI_XWIN)); strncpy( nid.szTip , "Cygwin/XFree86 Server" , sizeof( nid.szTip ) ); if ( ! Shell_NotifyIcon( NIM_ADD , &nid ) ) ErrorF( "Shell_NotifyIcon Failed, dammit" ); } LRESULT handle_icon_message( HWND hwnd , UINT message , WPARAM wParam , LPARAM lParam ) { switch( lParam ) { case WM_LBUTTONUP: PostMessage( hwnd , WM_CLOSE , 0 , 0 ); } return 0; } in winWindowProc( ... ), add this to the switch(message) : case WM_APP: return handle_icon_message( hwnd , message , wParam , lParam ); And add this to the case WM_CREATE in the switch(message), just above the return 0 : init_notify_icon( hwnd ); -- -- Early Ehlinger CEO, ResPower Inc - Toll-Free : 866-737-7697 -- www.respower.com -- 500+ GHz Supercomputer Starting At USD$0.50/GHz*Hour From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 29 20:47:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 20:47:00 -0000 Subject: "no buffer space available" on Win2K In-Reply-To: <003a01c30e8f$02a759e0$9e539696@citkwaclaww2k> References: <003a01c30e8f$02a759e0$9e539696@citkwaclaww2k> Message-ID: <3EAEE4D1.4070505@msu.edu> Karl, This is the first time I have ever heard of such an error. Could you please elaborate on where you recieve this error? Is it a popup window? If so, please include the full text. Is it in /tmp/XWinrl.log or /tmp/XWin.log? If so, please include the full text of that file. Is it at a command prompt? If so, which program generated the error and what was its text? With more info we may be able to help. Harold Karl Waclawek wrote: > I just downloaded the newest XFree86 packages from Cygwin. > My system is Win2K Pro, ServicePack 3. > I am connecting remotely to a RedHat 7.3 box. > > All seems to work fine at first, but after a while > I get a "no buffer space available" error, and from > then on most Internet access gets hosed and I have to > reboot the machine. > > I tried connecting through telnet and ssh from within > the X session, as well as using PuTTY from Windows directly > (in both, Telnet and SSH mode). > In all cases do I get the same error, however, it seems that > it happens more quickly when using SSH. > > Where should I be looking to fix my setup/configuration, > that is, if it can be fixed? > > I would be grateful for any pointers, > > Karl > From early@respower.com Tue Apr 29 20:51:00 2003 From: early@respower.com (Early Ehlinger) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 20:51:00 -0000 Subject: REPOST: -multiwindow so very close to what's really needed... . References: <3EAE9F4B.5080209@msu.edu> Message-ID: "Harold L Hunt II" wrote: > That will save you, potentially, hours of compile time. The fonts don't > need to be rebuilt because you aren't working on them and you should > already have a copy of them installed. Too late! I ended up letting my laptop choke on it all night. Spent about 1/2 hour debugging today - I had chosen the window proc for X clients' windows rather than the root window (D'oh!) but once I figured out that there was a second window proc it was a snap. -- -- Early Ehlinger CEO, ResPower Inc - Toll-Free : 866-737-7697 -- www.respower.com -- 500+ GHz Supercomputer Starting At USD$0.50/GHz*Hour From early@respower.com Tue Apr 29 21:06:00 2003 From: early@respower.com (Early Ehlinger) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:06:00 -0000 Subject: REPOST: -multiwindow so very close to what's really needed... . References: Message-ID: "Morrison, John" wrote: > distcc (apparently) works OOTB. It'd be nice to have that as > a package if you're offering ;) > > > > "distcc is developed on GNU/Linux, but has been reported to work on > other systems including FreeBSD, Solaris, and Cygwin." I wasn't aware of this... I've considered offering a distributed compilation service on the farm, but there are a number of problems, like the fact that make is arguably considerably less than secure, since you could conceivably upload the code for a malicious program, make it, and then in the same makefile launch it!! I have some ideas on how to get around this, but I don't think they'll get any use for a *very long* time, if ever. -- -- Early Ehlinger CEO, ResPower Inc - Toll-Free : 866-737-7697 -- www.respower.com -- 500+ GHz Supercomputer Starting At USD$0.50/GHz*Hour From karl@waclawek.net Tue Apr 29 21:21:00 2003 From: karl@waclawek.net (Karl Waclawek) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:21:00 -0000 Subject: "no buffer space available" on Win2K References: <003a01c30e8f$02a759e0$9e539696@citkwaclaww2k> <3EAEE4D1.4070505@msu.edu> Message-ID: <001201c30e95$595d7980$9e539696@citkwaclaww2k> > Karl, > > This is the first time I have ever heard of such an error. > > Could you please elaborate on where you recieve this error? Is it a > popup window? If so, please include the full text. Is it in > /tmp/XWinrl.log or /tmp/XWin.log? If so, please include the full text > of that file. Is it at a command prompt? If so, which program > generated the error and what was its text? I saw it twice, once in a Cygwin shell, the other time in a pop-up window created by PuTTY. File is attached from last attempt. There is no XWin.log, only XWinrl.log. However, it may not be very useful, since when trying it his time, the X server froze completely and I don't think it wrote anything to the file at this point, considering the timestamp of the log file. The text is pretty much exact (as seen with PuTTY): Socket error: "no buffer space available". There was an old entry in the mailing list archives, but nothing that helped me. > > With more info we may be able to help. > > Harold > If you have a specific thing you want me to try I will do it, even though it is a pain - every time this happens I need to reboot so that I can send the e-mail out. Regards, Karl -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: XWinrl.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1933 bytes Desc: not available URL: From early@respower.com Tue Apr 29 21:30:00 2003 From: early@respower.com (Early Ehlinger) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:30:00 -0000 Subject: PATCH: -multiwindow with root window hidden... References: Message-ID: "Early Ehlinger" wrote: > Alright! I'm having good results with my attempt to hide the root window > when running in -multiwindow mode. Even launched Borland's Kylix Open Edition, redirected to my windows box. Works like a charm. Very nice :) -- -- Early Ehlinger CEO, ResPower Inc - Toll-Free : 866-737-7697 -- www.respower.com -- 500+ GHz Supercomputer Starting At USD$0.50/GHz*Hour From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 29 21:38:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:38:00 -0000 Subject: PATCH: -multiwindow with root window hidden... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EAEF0C2.7030701@msu.edu> Early, I think you forgot to show what you changed to hide the root window. Please show me what you changed to handle that. Thanks for you patch, Harold Early Ehlinger wrote: > Alright! I'm having good results with my attempt to hide the root window > when running in > -multiwindow mode. I've got it to where when I use the startxwin batch file > that gets set up during the cygwin install, XWin.exe adds a tray icon and > hides its root window. The batch file then launches an xterm and it shows > up and works fine. I can then launch more xterms, ssl sessions, redirect > galeon from my linux box, etc. > > The patch needs a few tweaks before I will feel comfortable releasing it: > > 1. Right now simply clicking on the icon closes it. This was more a matter > of laziness than anything else. It takes a half a second to put the > WM_CLOSE post and a *lot* longer to generate the menus and whatnot. > > 2. It currently hides the root window indiscriminately. That is, it assumes > that > -multiwindow is on the command line, creates the tray icon and hides the > root window without checking that assumption at all. This was more due to > my lack of familiarity with the code. I didn't quite know what variables to > look for and frankly didn't care since I'm only planning on running with > the -multiwindow switch anyway ;) If somebody wants to tackle this, my > approach would be to add a new command line switch, say -trayicon, so that > you would launch XWin.exe with: > > XWin.exe -trayicon -multiwindow -nowinkill -clipboard > > Except for these two caveats, I'm quite happy with the new behavior. I'd > still like to see different icons for each X Window, but that is much less > important to me than getting rid of that annoying root window, so I won't > tackle that one for a *very* long time, if ever. > > I won't be able to work on this again for a while - I've got it where I need > it for my purposes and my time is *very* limited. So, if anybody wants to > try it out with the knowledge that these two problems exist, or wants to > take over development to remove these problems, here are the changes I made: > > in x-devel/build/std/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winwndproc.c: > > add the following just after the other #includes: > > #include > > void init_notify_icon( HWND hwnd ) > { > NOTIFYICONDATA nid = {0}; > nid.cbSize = sizeof( nid ); > nid.hWnd = hwnd; > nid.uID = 0; > nid.uFlags = NIF_ICON | NIF_MESSAGE | NIF_TIP /* | NIF_INFO */; > nid.uCallbackMessage = WM_APP; > nid.hIcon = LoadIcon(g_hInstance, MAKEINTRESOURCE(IDI_XWIN)); > > strncpy( nid.szTip , "Cygwin/XFree86 Server" , sizeof( nid.szTip ) ); > > if ( ! Shell_NotifyIcon( NIM_ADD , &nid ) ) > ErrorF( "Shell_NotifyIcon Failed, dammit" ); > } > > LRESULT handle_icon_message( HWND hwnd , UINT message , WPARAM wParam , > LPARAM lParam ) > { > switch( lParam ) > { > case WM_LBUTTONUP: > PostMessage( hwnd , WM_CLOSE , 0 , 0 ); > } > return 0; > } > > in winWindowProc( ... ), add this to the switch(message) : > > case WM_APP: > return handle_icon_message( hwnd , message , wParam , lParam ); > > And add this to the case WM_CREATE in the switch(message), just above the > return 0 : > > init_notify_icon( hwnd ); > > > -- > -- Early Ehlinger CEO, ResPower Inc - Toll-Free : 866-737-7697 > -- www.respower.com -- 500+ GHz Supercomputer Starting At USD$0.50/GHz*Hour > > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 29 21:48:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:48:00 -0000 Subject: PATCH: -multiwindow with root window hidden... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EAEF30E.7060601@msu.edu> Early, By the way, I have applied your patch to my local tree (except for hiding the root window). I like it. I have changed the tooltip message to print the display and screen number (e.g., Cygwin/XFree86 Server - 0:0) to help identify which screen each icon is associated with. I also added checks to enable the feature only when Rootless or MultiWindow mode is active. Hmm... actually I don't think that is necessary. The icon should be active in all modes. It certainly doesn't hurt to have it there at all times. Thoughts? I am going to take a peek at adding a menu with an Exit button so that users don't kill their session on accident. If it can be done easily I will go ahead and do it. I really want to release this soon... this is the first big change we have had in a while. It turned out to be relatively simple, but your time and effort put into actually creating the feature is highly valuable to all of us. Thanks again, Harold Early Ehlinger wrote: > "Early Ehlinger" wrote: > >>Alright! I'm having good results with my attempt to hide the root window >>when running in -multiwindow mode. > > > Even launched Borland's Kylix Open Edition, redirected to my windows box. > Works like a charm. Very nice :) > > > -- > -- Early Ehlinger CEO, ResPower Inc - Toll-Free : 866-737-7697 > -- www.respower.com -- 500+ GHz Supercomputer Starting At USD$0.50/GHz*Hour > > > > From early@respower.com Tue Apr 29 22:43:00 2003 From: early@respower.com (Early Ehlinger) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 22:43:00 -0000 Subject: PATCH: -multiwindow with root window hidden... References: <3EAEF0C2.7030701@msu.edu> Message-ID: "Harold L Hunt II" wrote: > I think you forgot to show what you changed to hide the root window. > > Please show me what you changed to handle that. D'oh! Like an idiot I didn't keep the original around so I had nothing to diff against. in winWindowProc->switch(message)->case WM_SIZE: ShowWindow( hwnd , SW_HIDE ); -- -- Early Ehlinger CEO, ResPower Inc - Toll-Free : 866-737-7697 -- www.respower.com -- 500+ GHz Supercomputer Starting At USD$0.50/GHz*Hour From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 30 00:06:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 00:06:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 80 Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 80 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ You can install the Test 80 package via setup.exe by selecting the following version of the XFree86-xserv package: 4.2.0-31 Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test80.exe.bz2 (1203 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20030429-1932.tar.bz2 (110 KiB) xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin (all files) diff against Test79 source code: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-Test79-to-Test80.diff (19 KiB) Changes: 1) Add automatic keyboard detection for ``Portuguese (Brazil)'', ``Portuguese (Portugal)'', and ``Italian''. (Alexander Gottwald) 2) Add taskbar notification area (tray) icon. Exit on double-click of icon. (Early Ehlinger) 3) Add popup menu for right-click on tray icon. Add menu item for ``Exit''. (Harold L Hunt II) 4) Add -[no]trayicon command-line parameters. The default is for the tray icon to be created for each screen (as if -trayicon were passed). You can turn tray icons off by placing -notrayicon at the beginning of the parameter list to XWin.exe (must be before any -screen x parameters). You can then enable the tray icon on a screen-by-screen basis by placing -trayicon after any -screen x parameter that you wish to have tray icons enabled for. For example, ``XWin.exe -notrayicon -screen 0 -screen 1 -screen 2 -trayicon'', would create three screens, two of which (screens 0 and 1) would not have tray icons, while the third (screen 2) would. 5) Hide root window in MultiWindow mode. (Early Ehlinger) 6) Add some initial support files that might eventually hold code for the X Video Extension. These files do not currently affect the operation of the server and I have stopped working on them for the time, but I will leave them there as a place holder. (Harold L Hunt II) Enjoy, Harold From STEPHEN.Bovy@ca.com Wed Apr 30 01:14:00 2003 From: STEPHEN.Bovy@ca.com (Bovy, Stephen J) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 01:14:00 -0000 Subject: XWin-Test80.exe.bz2 is corrupt and will not bunzip Message-ID: <8C6B052884783549B5D30C166853A514029885F4@usilms21.ca.com> XWin-Test80.exe.bz2 is corrupt and will not bunzip From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 30 02:02:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (huntharo@msu.edu) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 02:02:00 -0000 Subject: XWin-Test80.exe.bz2 is corrupt and will not bunzip Message-ID: HEHEHEHE BULLSHIT -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Bovy, Stephen J Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 6:14 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: XWin-Test80.exe.bz2 is corrupt and will not bunzip XWin-Test80.exe.bz2 is corrupt and will not bunzip From cbrown1@s-mail.com Wed Apr 30 03:09:00 2003 From: cbrown1@s-mail.com (C Brown) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 03:09:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Test Server 81 Released Message-ID: <3eaf3e57.1c56f18a@s-mail.com> BULLSHIT..... HEHEHE ________________________________________________________________________ This letter has been delivered unencrypted. We'd like to remind you that the full protection of e-mail correspondence is provided by S-mail encryption mechanisms if only both, Sender and Recipient use S-mail. Register at S-mail.com: http://www.s-mail.com From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 30 03:22:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 03:22:00 -0000 Subject: XWin-Test80.exe.bz2 is corrupt and will not bunzip In-Reply-To: <8C6B052884783549B5D30C166853A514029885F4@usilms21.ca.com> References: <8C6B052884783549B5D30C166853A514029885F4@usilms21.ca.com> Message-ID: <3EAF417D.9070008@msu.edu> Stephen, Thanks. I forgot to switch ftp to binary mode when I uploaded the files. My local file isn't corrupt, so that must have been the problem. Harold Bovy, Stephen J wrote: > XWin-Test80.exe.bz2 is corrupt and will not bunzip From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 30 04:11:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 04:11:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 81 Message-ID: <3EAF4CF0.6000203@msu.edu> Links: I just posted Test 81 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ You can install the Test 81 package via setup.exe by selecting the following version of the XFree86-xserv package: 4.2.0-32 Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test81.exe.bz2 (1203 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20030429-2347.tar.bz2 (110 KiB) xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin (all files) diff against Test80 source code: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-Test80-to-Test81.diff (5 KiB) Changes: 1) Fix tray icon right-click menu to make sure that it disappears when you click outside of the menu. (Harold L Hunt II) 2) Delete the tray icon in the per-screen close procedure, which ensures that every tray icon is deleted. This also causes the tray icons to be deleted when the server is reset, which is required since the tray icons are recreated when the server is reset. (Harold L Hunt II) Enjoy, Harold From cbrown1@s-mail.com Wed Apr 30 04:51:00 2003 From: cbrown1@s-mail.com (C Brown) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 04:51:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUCEMENT] Servet Test 82 Message-ID: <3eaf563f.4b64bfb7@s-mail.com> BULLSHIT.... hehe hehehehe ________________________________________________________________________ This letter has been delivered unencrypted. We'd like to remind you that the full protection of e-mail correspondence is provided by S-mail encryption mechanisms if only both, Sender and Recipient use S-mail. Register at S-mail.com: http://www.s-mail.com From cbrown1@s-mail.com Wed Apr 30 04:54:00 2003 From: cbrown1@s-mail.com (C Brown) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 04:54:00 -0000 Subject: XWin-Test80.exe.bz2 is corrupt and will not bunzip Message-ID: <3eaf56ef.f0479461@s-mail.com> BULLSHIT..... From: Harold L Hunt II To: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 23:22:37 -0400 Subject: Re: XWin-Test80.exe.bz2 is corrupt and will not bunzip References: <8C6B052884783549B5D30C166853A514029885F4@usilms21.ca.com> Reply-to: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Stephen, Thanks. I forgot to switch ftp to binary mode when I uploaded the files. My local file isn't corrupt, so that must have been the problem. Harold Bovy, Stephen J wrote: XWin-Test80.exe.bz2 is corrupt and will not bunzip ________________________________________________________________________ This letter has been delivered unencrypted. We'd like to remind you that the full protection of e-mail correspondence is provided by S-mail encryption mechanisms if only both, Sender and Recipient use S-mail. Register at S-mail.com: http://www.s-mail.com From colin.harrison@virgin.net Wed Apr 30 06:40:00 2003 From: colin.harrison@virgin.net (Colin Harrison) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 06:40:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 81 Message-ID: <000001c30ee3$66361010$0200a8c0@nt.straightrunning.com> Hi, Works fine for me, multiwindow+clipboard and XDMCP. More testing underway... Thanks Colin From bijumaillist@yahoo.com Wed Apr 30 07:34:00 2003 From: bijumaillist@yahoo.com (Biju G C) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 07:34:00 -0000 Subject: Root Window click In-Reply-To: <3EAF4CF0.6000203@msu.edu> Message-ID: <20030430073408.28734.qmail@web14605.mail.yahoo.com> SysTray Icon works fine. (81) // case WM_LBUTTONDBLCLK: // if(.....) ShowWindow (hwnd, SW_SHOWNORMAL); // else ShowWindow (hwnd, SW_HIDE); In winHandleIconMessage, closing root window when left mouse double click is DANGEROUS !!!. Can v have toggling of SHOW/HIDE of root window for the left mouse double click. That way we will be also able to use Root Window click functionaly. And it will give us time to make a better menus later. Cheers Biju __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From Vince.Hoffman@uk.circle.com Wed Apr 30 09:54:00 2003 From: Vince.Hoffman@uk.circle.com (Vince Hoffman) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:54:00 -0000 Subject: "no buffer space available" on Win2K Message-ID: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA37955014BDA86@EX-LONDON> Finaly someone else who has had this problem, however I have experienced it using just cygwin ssh and just cygwin ncftp as well as once using x with ssh forwarding. So i have only ever reported it on the cygwin list (to no responce.) I can give cygcheck etc if anyone wants them. > -----Original Message----- > From: Karl Waclawek [mailto:karl@waclawek.net] > Sent: 29 April 2003 21:36 > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Cc: Karl Waclawek (IStop) > Subject: "no buffer space available" on Win2K > > > I just downloaded the newest XFree86 packages from Cygwin. > My system is Win2K Pro, ServicePack 3. > I am connecting remotely to a RedHat 7.3 box. > > All seems to work fine at first, but after a while > I get a "no buffer space available" error, and from > then on most Internet access gets hosed and I have to > reboot the machine. > > I tried connecting through telnet and ssh from within > the X session, as well as using PuTTY from Windows directly > (in both, Telnet and SSH mode). > In all cases do I get the same error, however, it seems that > it happens more quickly when using SSH. > > Where should I be looking to fix my setup/configuration, > that is, if it can be fixed? > > I would be grateful for any pointers, > > Karl > > From andrew.markebo@telia.com Wed Apr 30 11:31:00 2003 From: andrew.markebo@telia.com (Andrew Markebo) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 11:31:00 -0000 Subject: "no buffer space available" on Win2K References: <003a01c30e8f$02a759e0$9e539696@citkwaclaww2k> <3EAEE4D1.4070505@msu.edu> <001201c30e95$595d7980$9e539696@citkwaclaww2k> Message-ID: Hmm any firewall? uh.. stuff sliding in in the network stack? (whats their name, you know distributing networks encrypted, killing spam?) /Andy -- The eye of the linker rests on the libs! From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 30 12:24:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:24:00 -0000 Subject: "no buffer space available" on Win2K In-Reply-To: References: <003a01c30e8f$02a759e0$9e539696@citkwaclaww2k> <3EAEE4D1.4070505@msu.edu> <001201c30e95$595d7980$9e539696@citkwaclaww2k> Message-ID: <3EAFC05B.7030900@msu.edu> Andrew, Good point. Have either of you ever installed any VPN or firewall software on your computers? (Note: I did not ask "are you running" any such software. I want to know if it has ever, in the history of your Windows installation, been installed.) Harold Andrew Markebo wrote: > Hmm any firewall? uh.. stuff sliding in in the network stack? (whats > their name, you know distributing networks encrypted, killing spam?) > > /Andy > From Vince.Hoffman@uk.circle.com Wed Apr 30 12:26:00 2003 From: Vince.Hoffman@uk.circle.com (Vince Hoffman) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:26:00 -0000 Subject: "no buffer space available" on Win2K Message-ID: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA37955014BDA8F@EX-LONDON> Nope, to the best of my knowledge there has been nothing that has altered the IP stack ( note the to the best of my knowledge as I am not the only person with access to these machines) > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: 30 April 2003 13:24 > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: "no buffer space available" on Win2K > > > Andrew, > > Good point. > > Have either of you ever installed any VPN or firewall > software on your > computers? (Note: I did not ask "are you running" any such > software. I > want to know if it has ever, in the history of your Windows > installation, been installed.) > > > Harold > > Andrew Markebo wrote: > > Hmm any firewall? uh.. stuff sliding in in the network stack? (whats > > their name, you know distributing networks encrypted, killing spam?) > > > > /Andy > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 30 13:00:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 13:00:00 -0000 Subject: "no buffer space available" on Win2K In-Reply-To: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA37955014BDA8F@EX-LONDON> References: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA37955014BDA8F@EX-LONDON> Message-ID: <3EAFC8EC.9000006@msu.edu> Vince, Hmm... what sort of network card have you got on your machine? Can you take a look around for software in the start menu and add/remove programs that sounds like it might provide VPN or firewall services? Harold Vince Hoffman wrote: > Nope, to the best of my knowledge there has been nothing that has altered > the IP stack ( note the to the best of my knowledge as I am not the only > person with access to these machines) > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] >>Sent: 30 April 2003 13:24 >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>Subject: Re: "no buffer space available" on Win2K >> >> >>Andrew, >> >>Good point. >> >>Have either of you ever installed any VPN or firewall >>software on your >>computers? (Note: I did not ask "are you running" any such >>software. I >>want to know if it has ever, in the history of your Windows >>installation, been installed.) >> >> >>Harold >> >>Andrew Markebo wrote: >> >>>Hmm any firewall? uh.. stuff sliding in in the network stack? (whats >>>their name, you know distributing networks encrypted, killing spam?) >>> >>> /Andy >>> >> From karl@waclawek.net Wed Apr 30 13:59:00 2003 From: karl@waclawek.net (Karl Waclawek) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 13:59:00 -0000 Subject: "no buffer space available" on Win2K References: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA37955014BDA86@EX-LONDON> Message-ID: <000401c30f20$b336d0b0$9e539696@citkwaclaww2k> > Finaly someone else who has had this problem, however I have experienced it > using just cygwin ssh and just cygwin ncftp as well as once using x with ssh > forwarding. So i have only ever reported it on the cygwin list (to no > responce.) I can give cygcheck etc if anyone wants them. I tried to duplicate it from home (over a VPN connection), but could not get it to trigger. Btw, does anyone know about performance problems with XWindows over VPN? It ran so slow it was unusable - data speed was about 1KB/sec, whereas my ADSL is capable of much better. VNC was a lot more usable, but should it not be the other way around? Anyway, got it again this morning. The X session just crashed. When I tried to start it again (using startxwin.sh), the shell returned: listen: No buffer space available xsetroot: unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0' Could it be caused by the window manager? I was using wmaker, not twm. Karl From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 30 15:31:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:31:00 -0000 Subject: "no buffer space available" on Win2K In-Reply-To: <000401c30f20$b336d0b0$9e539696@citkwaclaww2k> References: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA37955014BDA86@EX-LONDON> <000401c30f20$b336d0b0$9e539696@citkwaclaww2k> Message-ID: <3EAFEC4F.2060403@msu.edu> Karl, It is well-known that various VPN software causes problems with Cygwin/XFree86. The reasons for this are numerous, but it primarily has to do with the fact that these VPN packages replace various Windows system DLLs with their own versions that do not correctly duplicate all of the functionality of the Windows networking DLLs. There isn't anything we can do to fix this problem, as we certainly cannot write code to deal with x number of networking layers for Windows. The only real solution here is to never install the VPN software to begin with, as most of them leave their modified DLLs in place when you uninstall them. The problem would have nothing to do with the window manager. I consider your problem solved, as there is nothing I can do to help. You could ask the Cygwin list (cygwin@cygwin.com) if you have further questions, but I would expect it to get toasty in there if you aren't offering to help :) Harold Karl Waclawek wrote: >>Finaly someone else who has had this problem, however I have experienced it >>using just cygwin ssh and just cygwin ncftp as well as once using x with ssh >>forwarding. So i have only ever reported it on the cygwin list (to no >>responce.) I can give cygcheck etc if anyone wants them. > > > I tried to duplicate it from home (over a VPN connection), but > could not get it to trigger. Btw, does anyone know about performance > problems with XWindows over VPN? It ran so slow it was unusable - data speed > was about 1KB/sec, whereas my ADSL is capable of much better. > VNC was a lot more usable, but should it not be the other way around? > > Anyway, got it again this morning. The X session just crashed. > When I tried to start it again (using startxwin.sh), the shell returned: > > listen: No buffer space available > xsetroot: unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0' > > Could it be caused by the window manager? I was using wmaker, not twm. > > Karl From karl@waclawek.net Wed Apr 30 15:43:00 2003 From: karl@waclawek.net (Karl Waclawek) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:43:00 -0000 Subject: "no buffer space available" on Win2K References: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA37955014BDA86@EX-LONDON> <000401c30f20$b336d0b0$9e539696@citkwaclaww2k> <3EAFEC4F.2060403@msu.edu> Message-ID: <00a201c30f2f$31bdd5b0$9e539696@citkwaclaww2k> > Karl, > > It is well-known that various VPN software causes problems with > Cygwin/XFree86. The reasons for this are numerous, but it primarily has > to do with the fact that these VPN packages replace various Windows > system DLLs with their own versions that do not correctly duplicate all > of the functionality of the Windows networking DLLs. There isn't > anything we can do to fix this problem, as we certainly cannot write > code to deal with x number of networking layers for Windows. > > The only real solution here is to never install the VPN software to > begin with, as most of them leave their modified DLLs in place when you > uninstall them. You misunderstood: I didn't get the "no buffer space available" error with the VPN in place. I only had very slow performance. The error happened at work, no VPN, both machines inside the firewall. > The problem would have nothing to do with the window manager. > > I consider your problem solved, as there is nothing I can do to help. > You could ask the Cygwin list (cygwin@cygwin.com) if you have further > questions, but I would expect it to get toasty in there if you aren't > offering to help :) What kind of help did you have in mind? Karl From jc.gervais@videotron.ca Wed Apr 30 15:45:00 2003 From: jc.gervais@videotron.ca (Jean-Claude Gervais) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:45:00 -0000 Subject: "no buffer space available" on Win2K In-Reply-To: <3EAFEC4F.2060403@msu.edu> Message-ID: Harold, Does "VPN software causes problems with Cygwin" apply to the VPN software that COMES with Windows? For example, if someone is running W2K server and is using it as a VPN server, will Cygwin still work correctly if the server receives calls from W2K client machines using the Microsoft built-in VPN client? -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 11:31 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: "no buffer space available" on Win2K Karl, It is well-known that various VPN software causes problems with Cygwin/XFree86. The reasons for this are numerous, but it primarily has to do with the fact that these VPN packages replace various Windows system DLLs with their own versions that do not correctly duplicate all of the functionality of the Windows networking DLLs. There isn't anything we can do to fix this problem, as we certainly cannot write code to deal with x number of networking layers for Windows. The only real solution here is to never install the VPN software to begin with, as most of them leave their modified DLLs in place when you uninstall them. The problem would have nothing to do with the window manager. I consider your problem solved, as there is nothing I can do to help. You could ask the Cygwin list (cygwin@cygwin.com) if you have further questions, but I would expect it to get toasty in there if you aren't offering to help :) Harold Karl Waclawek wrote: >>Finaly someone else who has had this problem, however I have experienced it >>using just cygwin ssh and just cygwin ncftp as well as once using x with ssh >>forwarding. So i have only ever reported it on the cygwin list (to no >>responce.) I can give cygcheck etc if anyone wants them. > > > I tried to duplicate it from home (over a VPN connection), but > could not get it to trigger. Btw, does anyone know about performance > problems with XWindows over VPN? It ran so slow it was unusable - data speed > was about 1KB/sec, whereas my ADSL is capable of much better. > VNC was a lot more usable, but should it not be the other way around? > > Anyway, got it again this morning. The X session just crashed. > When I tried to start it again (using startxwin.sh), the shell returned: > > listen: No buffer space available > xsetroot: unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0' > > Could it be caused by the window manager? I was using wmaker, not twm. > > Karl From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 30 16:05:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 16:05:00 -0000 Subject: "no buffer space available" on Win2K In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EAFF44A.30001@msu.edu> Jean-Claude, I should think that the Microsoft VPN software would not cause problems. My reasoning here is that they don't have to replace the standard network DLLs to provide the VPN functionality. The main problem Cygwin/XFree86 has with other VPN software is that just a few operations give slightly different results with the VPN software's stack than with the standard stack. As you know, Cygwin is an interesting bit of glue that depends on the Windows interface being relatively well known so that it can provide a UNIX-like API on top of it. Any weirdness in that Windows interface makes it almost impossible to implement something like Cygwin. Harold Jean-Claude Gervais wrote: > Harold, > > Does "VPN software causes problems with Cygwin" apply to the VPN software > that COMES with Windows? > > For example, if someone is running W2K server and is using it as a VPN > server, will Cygwin still work correctly if the server receives calls from > W2K client machines using the Microsoft built-in VPN client? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On > Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 11:31 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: "no buffer space available" on Win2K > > Karl, > > It is well-known that various VPN software causes problems with > Cygwin/XFree86. The reasons for this are numerous, but it primarily has > to do with the fact that these VPN packages replace various Windows > system DLLs with their own versions that do not correctly duplicate all > of the functionality of the Windows networking DLLs. There isn't > anything we can do to fix this problem, as we certainly cannot write > code to deal with x number of networking layers for Windows. > > The only real solution here is to never install the VPN software to > begin with, as most of them leave their modified DLLs in place when you > uninstall them. > > The problem would have nothing to do with the window manager. > > I consider your problem solved, as there is nothing I can do to help. > You could ask the Cygwin list (cygwin@cygwin.com) if you have further > questions, but I would expect it to get toasty in there if you aren't > offering to help :) > > > Harold > > Karl Waclawek wrote: > >>>Finaly someone else who has had this problem, however I have experienced > > it > >>>using just cygwin ssh and just cygwin ncftp as well as once using x with > > ssh > >>>forwarding. So i have only ever reported it on the cygwin list (to no >>>responce.) I can give cygcheck etc if anyone wants them. >> >> >>I tried to duplicate it from home (over a VPN connection), but >>could not get it to trigger. Btw, does anyone know about performance >>problems with XWindows over VPN? It ran so slow it was unusable - data > > speed > >>was about 1KB/sec, whereas my ADSL is capable of much better. >>VNC was a lot more usable, but should it not be the other way around? >> >>Anyway, got it again this morning. The X session just crashed. >>When I tried to start it again (using startxwin.sh), the shell returned: >> >>listen: No buffer space available >>xsetroot: unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0' >> >>Could it be caused by the window manager? I was using wmaker, not twm. >> >>Karl From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 30 16:11:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 16:11:00 -0000 Subject: "no buffer space available" on Win2K In-Reply-To: <00a201c30f2f$31bdd5b0$9e539696@citkwaclaww2k> References: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA37955014BDA86@EX-LONDON> <000401c30f20$b336d0b0$9e539696@citkwaclaww2k> <3EAFEC4F.2060403@msu.edu> <00a201c30f2f$31bdd5b0$9e539696@citkwaclaww2k> Message-ID: <3EAFF5C2.1090704@msu.edu> Karl, Right, but has the VPN software *ever* been installed on your Windows machine at work? Can you try another Windows machine at work and see if it gets the same problem? Such a test would help to uncover anything specific to your general computer configuration at work (such as some sort of software installed on all of them, etc.). As for help --- They would at least want you to be running debug versions of some Cygwin components. Ideally you would do some tracking down to try to figure out an exact sequence of events that reproduces the problem in a short amount of time. Harold Karl Waclawek wrote: >>Karl, >> >>It is well-known that various VPN software causes problems with >>Cygwin/XFree86. The reasons for this are numerous, but it primarily has >>to do with the fact that these VPN packages replace various Windows >>system DLLs with their own versions that do not correctly duplicate all >>of the functionality of the Windows networking DLLs. There isn't >>anything we can do to fix this problem, as we certainly cannot write >>code to deal with x number of networking layers for Windows. >> >>The only real solution here is to never install the VPN software to >>begin with, as most of them leave their modified DLLs in place when you >>uninstall them. > > > You misunderstood: > I didn't get the "no buffer space available" error with the VPN in place. > I only had very slow performance. > > The error happened at work, no VPN, both machines inside the firewall. > > >>The problem would have nothing to do with the window manager. >> >>I consider your problem solved, as there is nothing I can do to help. >>You could ask the Cygwin list (cygwin@cygwin.com) if you have further >>questions, but I would expect it to get toasty in there if you aren't >>offering to help :) > > > What kind of help did you have in mind? > > Karl From Vince.Hoffman@uk.circle.com Wed Apr 30 16:30:00 2003 From: Vince.Hoffman@uk.circle.com (Vince Hoffman) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 16:30:00 -0000 Subject: "no buffer space available" on Win2K Message-ID: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA37955014BDA95@EX-LONDON> Harold, Its a Compaq NS3161 fast ethernet. The closest I can find to something that could have modified the tcp stack is IIS URLscan but I'm not sure that would have changed anything but IIS. I'm working on finding something that will easily replicate the problem but its not easy. I have an strace of an ncftp that was running at the time it happened but it just shows 1192 1291766386 [main] ncftp 1044 start_thread_socket: listen failed, Win32 error 10055 (which is the out of buffer error) Its been a while since i had it happen with X (i dont use it as much as I did) but i'll keep trying and let people know if I find anything. Vince > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: 30 April 2003 14:00 > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: "no buffer space available" on Win2K > > > Vince, > > Hmm... what sort of network card have you got on your > machine? Can you > take a look around for software in the start menu and add/remove > programs that sounds like it might provide VPN or firewall services? > > Harold > > Vince Hoffman wrote: > > Nope, to the best of my knowledge there has been nothing > that has altered > > the IP stack ( note the to the best of my knowledge as I am > not the only > > person with access to these machines) > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > >>Sent: 30 April 2003 13:24 > >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > >>Subject: Re: "no buffer space available" on Win2K > >> > >> > >>Andrew, > >> > >>Good point. > >> > >>Have either of you ever installed any VPN or firewall > >>software on your > >>computers? (Note: I did not ask "are you running" any such > >>software. I > >>want to know if it has ever, in the history of your Windows > >>installation, been installed.) > >> > >> > >>Harold > >> > >>Andrew Markebo wrote: > >> > >>>Hmm any firewall? uh.. stuff sliding in in the network > stack? (whats > >>>their name, you know distributing networks encrypted, > killing spam?) > >>> > >>> /Andy > >>> > >> > From S.Wiesner@surrey.ac.uk Wed Apr 30 16:38:00 2003 From: S.Wiesner@surrey.ac.uk (S.Wiesner@surrey.ac.uk) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 16:38:00 -0000 Subject: being an idiot, transferring files 'tween PC and remote server via cygwin Message-ID: OK, so I'm an idiot, and I've looked everywhere and tried contacting my IT guys at school numerous times, but to no avail. Here's the deal: I connect to the unix server at school using cygwin Xfree86 (the preferred method acc'd to the IT guys...my other option in Exceed). It works great as far as driging down to the server I need, getting to my app and files, etc. What I'm having trouble with, however, is transferring files. Do I need to mount my PC's c: drive somehow so that the unix server recognizes it? Or mount the school's server to my PC? I'm sorry to be so stupid, but I am NOT a technoweenie (my doctoral research is in Dance Writing and AI descriptions of motion). I'm lost. Please help.I tried ftp, but I'm having connection probs(not your problem...just letting you know I tried and if this SHOULD work please let me know and I'll get back on it (using Winftp pro). thanks ever for any advice (other than telling me I'm stupid which I already know). SLW --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using UNIS MailSystem. From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 30 17:28:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 17:28:00 -0000 Subject: being an idiot, transferring files 'tween PC and remote server via cygwin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EB007CB.1060707@msu.edu> Are they having you login with the -query parameter for XWin.exe, or are they having you run 'ssh' to connect to the remote machine and then launch programs running on that machine that display in Cygwin/XFree86? If they are having you use ssh, then you are in luck because you can use sftp to get something very similar to the way that ftp works (but it is secure). If you are not using ssh, then I think you will need to talk to your IT department again to find out if they support mapping drives via Samba or SMB (same thing). For example, here at MSU I can map a drive at home that points to my Computer Science department drive by pointing to \\samba.cse.msu.edu\homes ... they may have something similar setup, but you will have to ask. Harold S.Wiesner@surrey.ac.uk wrote: > OK, so I'm an idiot, and I've looked everywhere and tried contacting my IT > guys at school numerous times, but to no avail. Here's the deal: I connect to > the unix server at school using cygwin Xfree86 (the preferred method acc'd to > the IT guys...my other option in Exceed). It works great as far as driging > down to the server I need, getting to my app and files, etc. What I'm having > trouble with, however, is transferring files. Do I need to mount my PC's c: > drive somehow so that the unix server recognizes it? Or mount the school's > server to my PC? I'm sorry to be so stupid, but I am NOT a technoweenie (my > doctoral research is in Dance Writing and AI descriptions of motion). I'm > lost. Please help.I tried ftp, but I'm having connection probs(not your > problem...just letting you know I tried and if this SHOULD work please let me > know and I'll get back on it (using Winftp pro). thanks ever for any advice > (other than telling me I'm stupid which I already know). > SLW > > > --------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using UNIS MailSystem. > From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 30 17:31:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 17:31:00 -0000 Subject: "no buffer space available" on Win2K In-Reply-To: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA37955014BDA95@EX-LONDON> References: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA37955014BDA95@EX-LONDON> Message-ID: <3EB0087F.7010606@msu.edu> Vince, Is your machine under heavy load or under heavy network load? I am wondering if some buffer on your network card is actually being overfilled, rather than Windows reporting that a socket-layer buffer is being overfilled. Harold Vince Hoffman wrote: > Harold, > Its a Compaq NS3161 fast ethernet. > The closest I can find to something that could have modified the tcp stack > is IIS URLscan but I'm not sure that would have changed anything but IIS. > I'm working on finding something that will easily replicate the > problem but its not easy. I have an strace of an ncftp that was running at > the time it happened but it just shows > 1192 1291766386 [main] ncftp 1044 start_thread_socket: listen failed, Win32 > error 10055 (which is the out of buffer error) > Its been a while since i had it happen with X (i dont use it as much as I > did) but i'll keep trying and let people know if I find anything. > > Vince > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] >>Sent: 30 April 2003 14:00 >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>Subject: Re: "no buffer space available" on Win2K >> >> >>Vince, >> >>Hmm... what sort of network card have you got on your >>machine? Can you >>take a look around for software in the start menu and add/remove >>programs that sounds like it might provide VPN or firewall services? >> >>Harold >> >>Vince Hoffman wrote: >> >>>Nope, to the best of my knowledge there has been nothing >> >>that has altered >> >>>the IP stack ( note the to the best of my knowledge as I am >> >>not the only >> >>>person with access to these machines) >>> >>> >>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] >>>>Sent: 30 April 2003 13:24 >>>>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>>>Subject: Re: "no buffer space available" on Win2K >>>> >>>> >>>>Andrew, >>>> >>>>Good point. >>>> >>>>Have either of you ever installed any VPN or firewall >>>>software on your >>>>computers? (Note: I did not ask "are you running" any such >>>>software. I >>>>want to know if it has ever, in the history of your Windows >>>>installation, been installed.) >>>> >>>> >>>>Harold >>>> >>>>Andrew Markebo wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hmm any firewall? uh.. stuff sliding in in the network >> >>stack? (whats >> >>>>>their name, you know distributing networks encrypted, >> >>killing spam?) >> >>>>> /Andy >>>>> >>>> From Vince.Hoffman@uk.circle.com Wed Apr 30 17:57:00 2003 From: Vince.Hoffman@uk.circle.com (Vince Hoffman) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 17:57:00 -0000 Subject: "no buffer space available" on Win2K Message-ID: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA37955014BDA96@EX-LONDON> it shouldnt be, but it'll monitor it for a bit with perfmon to check (this is something that doesnt happen if i am not running cygwin apps though.) > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: 30 April 2003 18:32 > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: "no buffer space available" on Win2K > > > Vince, > > Is your machine under heavy load or under heavy network load? I am > wondering if some buffer on your network card is actually being > overfilled, rather than Windows reporting that a socket-layer > buffer is > being overfilled. > > Harold > > Vince Hoffman wrote: > > Harold, > > Its a Compaq NS3161 fast ethernet. > > The closest I can find to something that could have > modified the tcp stack > > is IIS URLscan but I'm not sure that would have changed > anything but IIS. > > I'm working on finding something that will easily replicate the > > problem but its not easy. I have an strace of an ncftp that > was running at > > the time it happened but it just shows > > 1192 1291766386 [main] ncftp 1044 start_thread_socket: > listen failed, Win32 > > error 10055 (which is the out of buffer error) > > Its been a while since i had it happen with X (i dont use > it as much as I > > did) but i'll keep trying and let people know if I find anything. > > > > Vince > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > >>Sent: 30 April 2003 14:00 > >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > >>Subject: Re: "no buffer space available" on Win2K > >> > >> > >>Vince, > >> > >>Hmm... what sort of network card have you got on your > >>machine? Can you > >>take a look around for software in the start menu and add/remove > >>programs that sounds like it might provide VPN or firewall services? > >> > >>Harold > >> > >>Vince Hoffman wrote: > >> > >>>Nope, to the best of my knowledge there has been nothing > >> > >>that has altered > >> > >>>the IP stack ( note the to the best of my knowledge as I am > >> > >>not the only > >> > >>>person with access to these machines) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>From: Harold L Hunt II [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > >>>>Sent: 30 April 2003 13:24 > >>>>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > >>>>Subject: Re: "no buffer space available" on Win2K > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Andrew, > >>>> > >>>>Good point. > >>>> > >>>>Have either of you ever installed any VPN or firewall > >>>>software on your > >>>>computers? (Note: I did not ask "are you running" any such > >>>>software. I > >>>>want to know if it has ever, in the history of your Windows > >>>>installation, been installed.) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Harold > >>>> > >>>>Andrew Markebo wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Hmm any firewall? uh.. stuff sliding in in the network > >> > >>stack? (whats > >> > >>>>>their name, you know distributing networks encrypted, > >> > >>killing spam?) > >> > >>>>> /Andy > >>>>> > >>>> > From karl@waclawek.net Wed Apr 30 18:05:00 2003 From: karl@waclawek.net (Karl Waclawek) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 18:05:00 -0000 Subject: "no buffer space available" on Win2K References: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA37955014BDA95@EX-LONDON> <3EB0087F.7010606@msu.edu> Message-ID: <002301c30f43$03b98060$9e539696@citkwaclaww2k> > Vince, > > Is your machine under heavy load or under heavy network load? I am > wondering if some buffer on your network card is actually being > overfilled, rather than Windows reporting that a socket-layer buffer is > being overfilled. Even though this question wasn't directed at me, it seems I should report that the buffer error was happening almost exclusively when I was running Kylix remotely. I did observe that Kylix is very heavy on XWindows load and - with a slow VPN connection - was much more affected by the speed of the connection than any of the other apps, like Mozilla or Konqueror. Karl From andrew.markebo@telia.com Wed Apr 30 18:33:00 2003 From: andrew.markebo@telia.com (Andrew Markebo) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 18:33:00 -0000 Subject: "no buffer space available" on Win2K References: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA37955014BDA95@EX-LONDON> Message-ID: BTW Google is your friend, did some googling, and seems like others have found this.. :-) "You can increase buffer by setsockopt with SO_SNDBUF/SO_RCVBUF , but if you close gracefully you shouldn't have such problem so check your code." Saw some comment about not enough memory.. So maybe it isn't the VPN's.. Drats, we can't always blame it :-) /Andy -- Don't walk in front of me, I might be unable to follow you. Don't walk after me, I might be unable to lead you. Just walk by my side and be my friend. From gsw@agere.com Wed Apr 30 19:09:00 2003 From: gsw@agere.com (Williams, Gerald S (Jerry)) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 19:09:00 -0000 Subject: PATCH: -multiwindow with root window hidden... Message-ID: <937756AF9E0BDC4396C09F32D8B41F2B2FE1BF@PAUEX2KU01.ags.agere.com> > D'oh! Like an idiot I didn't keep the original around so I > had nothing to diff against. Perhaps you should try "cvs diff" gsw From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Wed Apr 30 19:33:00 2003 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 19:33:00 -0000 Subject: being an idiot, transferring files 'tween PC and remote server via cygwin In-Reply-To: <3EB007CB.1060707@msu.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > If they are having you use ssh, then you are in luck because you can use > sftp to get something very similar to the way that ftp works (but it is Or scp, which is very similar to cp... :-) This should work even if you don't use ssh to log in (try it and see). FYI, ssh, scp and sftp are all in the openssh Cygwin package. Ftp to a unix machine *should* work, unless they've explicitly disabled the ftp daemon. You could try using Cygwin's command line ftp tool (found in the inetutils package) and see if it fares better than WinFTP... Or you could try Samba, as Harold mentioned. FWIW, I use all three on a regular basis. Igor On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Are they having you login with the -query parameter for XWin.exe, or are > they having you run 'ssh' to connect to the remote machine and then > launch programs running on that machine that display in Cygwin/XFree86? > > If they are having you use ssh, then you are in luck because you can use > sftp to get something very similar to the way that ftp works (but it is > secure). If you are not using ssh, then I think you will need to talk > to your IT department again to find out if they support mapping drives > via Samba or SMB (same thing). For example, here at MSU I can map a > drive at home that points to my Computer Science department drive by > pointing to \\samba.cse.msu.edu\homes ... they may have something > similar setup, but you will have to ask. > > > Harold > > S.Wiesner@surrey.ac.uk wrote: > > OK, so I'm an idiot, and I've looked everywhere and tried contacting my IT > > guys at school numerous times, but to no avail. Here's the deal: I connect to > > the unix server at school using cygwin Xfree86 (the preferred method acc'd to > > the IT guys...my other option in Exceed). It works great as far as driging > > down to the server I need, getting to my app and files, etc. What I'm having > > trouble with, however, is transferring files. Do I need to mount my PC's c: > > drive somehow so that the unix server recognizes it? Or mount the school's > > server to my PC? I'm sorry to be so stupid, but I am NOT a technoweenie (my > > doctoral research is in Dance Writing and AI descriptions of motion). I'm > > lost. Please help.I tried ftp, but I'm having connection probs(not your > > problem...just letting you know I tried and if this SHOULD work please let me > > know and I'll get back on it (using Winftp pro). thanks ever for any advice > > (other than telling me I'm stupid which I already know). > > SLW -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty. -- Leto II From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 30 21:26:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 21:26:00 -0000 Subject: PATCH: -multiwindow with root window hidden... In-Reply-To: <937756AF9E0BDC4396C09F32D8B41F2B2FE1BF@PAUEX2KU01.ags.agere.com> References: <937756AF9E0BDC4396C09F32D8B41F2B2FE1BF@PAUEX2KU01.ags.agere.com> Message-ID: <3EB03F9E.1030602@msu.edu> Jerry, Heh... the only problem with that would be that, in this case, CVS is way out of date :) I will probably synch up with CVS again soon. Harold Williams, Gerald S (Jerry) wrote: >>D'oh! Like an idiot I didn't keep the original around so I >>had nothing to diff against. > > > Perhaps you should try "cvs diff" > > gsw From karl@waclawek.net Wed Apr 30 22:51:00 2003 From: karl@waclawek.net (Karl Waclawek) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 22:51:00 -0000 Subject: "no buffer space available" on Win2K References: <3500515B75D9D311948800508BA37955014BDA86@EX-LONDON> <000401c30f20$b336d0b0$9e539696@citkwaclaww2k> <3EAFEC4F.2060403@msu.edu> <00a201c30f2f$31bdd5b0$9e539696@citkwaclaww2k> <3EAFF5C2.1090704@msu.edu> Message-ID: <005701c30f6b$c0ca0c10$0207a8c0@karl> > Karl, > > Right, but has the VPN software *ever* been installed on your Windows > machine at work? No, as I am the one who installed everything except for the SMS and the Terminal Services client. However, I cannot exclude with 100% certainty that my TCP/IP implementation is still virgin, since I have installed/uninstalled quite a number of software components. OTH, I do not log in as Administrator, as a rule, so it is not *that* easy for me to mess it up. > Can you try another Windows machine at work and see if it gets the same > problem? Such a test would help to uncover anything specific to your > general computer configuration at work (such as some sort of software > installed on all of them, etc.). I was thinking of that myself - just have to find a willing developer colleague or a free machine. I do have the option to use one of the Exceed licenses we have, but I thought I try it with OpenSource first, as I am involved with it myself. > As for help --- They would at least want you to be running debug > versions of some Cygwin components. Ideally you would do some tracking > down to try to figure out an exact sequence of events that reproduces > the problem in a short amount of time. Sounds reasonable - mostly a matter of finding the time. Karl From cbrown1@s-mail.com Wed Apr 30 23:01:00 2003 From: cbrown1@s-mail.com (C Brown) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 23:01:00 -0000 Subject: Buffer over run... Message-ID: <3eb055b1.2c5f6ac5@s-mail.com> This error is because of bullshit programmin in Cygwin/Xfree not VPN eheh hehehehe ________________________________________________________________________ This letter has been delivered unencrypted. We'd like to remind you that the full protection of e-mail correspondence is provided by S-mail encryption mechanisms if only both, Sender and Recipient use S-mail. Register at S-mail.com: http://www.s-mail.com From early@respower.com Wed Apr 30 23:43:00 2003 From: early@respower.com (Early Ehlinger) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 23:43:00 -0000 Subject: PATCH: -multiwindow with root window hidden... References: <937756AF9E0BDC4396C09F32D8B41F2B2FE1BF@PAUEX2KU01.ags.agere.com> <3EB03F9E.1030602@msu.edu> Message-ID: Actually, I believe Jerry is right. Had I been aware of this command I could have compared my local copy against the repository and sent the report in my email (no need for another copy on my end to pass to e.g., windiff). Unfortunately, I am still a newbie to CVS and things like this often go unnoticed by newbies (that's right, all I had read was the howto for getting the source.) Thanks for the tip Jerry. "Harold L Hunt II" wrote in message news:3EB03F9E.1030602@msu.edu... > Jerry, > > Heh... the only problem with that would be that, in this case, CVS is > way out of date :) I will probably synch up with CVS again soon. > > Harold > > Williams, Gerald S (Jerry) wrote: > >>D'oh! Like an idiot I didn't keep the original around so I > >>had nothing to diff against. > > > > > > Perhaps you should try "cvs diff" > > > > gsw > > From knodlep@arizona.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: knodlep@arizona.edu (Knodle, Patrick) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Window Maker received signal 11 Message-ID: I just installed the latest version of XFree86 and made 2 changes to the startxwin.bat file to access our servers. When I open this file I get the message: Fatal error Window maker received signal 11. This fatal error occurred probably due to a bug. Please fill the included BUGFORM and report it to bugs@windowmaker.org. Do you know of a fix to this? Thank you, Patrick H. Knodle ************************ University of Arizona FSO- Computing knodlep@arizona.edu 626-7409 Office 440-8752 Wireless 626-3072 Computing ************************ From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP Problem (must be connected to internet) In-Reply-To: <002801c2b470$a76e3670$0100a8c0@envelope> Message-ID: Tim Kelly wrote: > Hello. > > I have a Debian 3.0 box, and W2k box. > > I start an xwin session on my W2K box like so: > > xwin -query 192.168.0.2 (this is the address of the linux box). > > I find that I get my nice kde login window only while my W2K internet > connection is active. Once I can see the KDE login screen I can saftly > disconnect from the internet. Both my computers are on my LAN so I see no > reason why I need to be on the internet. Can anybody explain?! have you tried the -from localip parameter? Maybe this helps. bye ago NP: VNV Nation - Prologue -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless Mode References: <8C6B052884783549B5D30C166853A5140175D270@usilms21.ca.com> Message-ID: <3E1E1A4D.1020001@msu.edu> Stephen, What was that all about? We are working on a Windows-based window manager. Need I say that again? If Window Maker is broken, then use one of twm, mwm (lesstif package), openbox, etc. Harold Bovy, Stephen wrote: FYI I have been experimenting with "exceed" window manager and "cygwin" Integration/synergy. It is "interesting" to note that I can execute the "windowmaker" cygwin-port and get it To work natively with the "exceed" X-window server. The clip , the dock , ect all Pop-up as "icons" on my windows desktop. Now if this capability could be further refined to work with "cygwin" in rootless mode, In a manner that is complimentry/compatible/integrated and non-disruptive with the Normal windows desktop and/or other windows, and maybee even try to integrate it With the "task/bar" .. Then we would have a very powerfull "integration" technology. Of course "unfortunately" the window-maker port is currently "broken" so it is hard To do further "experiments" -----Original Message----- From: Bovy, Stephen Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:07 PM To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Subject: Rootless Mode I have tried the server test series with "rootless" mode. I find it very usefull. Here is my dumb opinion. We need a Native Microsft-Cygwin "Window Manager" designed to work in "rootless mode". Also FYI. The "Window Maker" "port" isnt working with the most recent "builds" Of the cygwin libraries. From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: website link error In-Reply-To: <5AAA3DB471413C438F8ACEA91C983E4B60C9B0@exchange.ivast.com> References: <5AAA3DB471413C438F8ACEA91C983E4B60C9B0@exchange.ivast.com> Message-ID: <3E14ABA1.2070405@msu.edu> Martin, Thanks. For now, just use one of the ten links to the User's Guide that is correct :) I will fix the link in the news item when I get home. Harold Martin Toeller wrote: >Regarding the page at >http://www.cygwin.com/xfree/ > >The link to the user's guide is incorrect - it points to the contributor's guide. > > From staf.verhaegen@imec.be Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: staf.verhaegen@imec.be (Staf Verhaegen) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit fullscreen still problematic Message-ID: <3E1BF61B.8040909@imec.be> Hello, I still have problems with 8 bit of XFree86. I'm using the latest version available with setup. Also checked to see if there are conflicting cygwin.dlls and this is not the case. I'm running on an NT4 machine. I try to start XWin in fullscreen mode with a depth of 8. (Xwin -fullscreen -depth 8). With engine 1 the XWin crashes. With engine 2 and 4 is starts up but I only get a black and white display when doing XDMCP to RH7.2 with gdm or to HPUX10.20 with CDE. (screen grabs are available and I will post them on request, around 40KB in total). The problem is that cadence Virtuoso needs an 8 bit display. I tried running 24bit XWin with -emulatepseudo option but then the program still complains that it can't handle 24 planes. greets, +----------------------------------------+-----------------------------+ |Staf Verhaegen (staf.verhaegen@imec.be) |ADRESS: IMEC vzw. - ASP/LITHO| |tel: 016/ 281 783 | Kapeldreef 75 | |fax: 016/ 281 214 | 3001 Leuven (Belgium)| +----------------------------------------+-----------------------------+ For every tool there are at least 2 uses: the one it was designed for and the other for which it wasn't. From vervoom@hotmail.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 70 Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 70 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ You can install the Test 70 package via setup.exe by selecting the 'test' package (and be sure to check the 'Bin' box): XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-18 Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network ( http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html ) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror ( http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html ). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test70.exe.bz2 (1196 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20030112-1434.tar.bz2 (95 KiB) Changes: 1) EXPERIMENTAL: New multiwindow mode (invoked with the ``-multiwindow'' command-line parameter) that creates each top-level X window in a Microsoft Windows window. Note that there are still debugging options on in this release, so do not expect multiwindow mode to be polished enough for everyday use. (Kensuke Matsuzaki) Enjoy, Harold Hi Harold, I've just tried to test it out on my windows machine at home and got a sefmentation fault. $ xwin -multiwindow Segmentation fault (core dumped) Nothing is written to /tmp/xwin.log and there isn't even a core file. Not sure what else I can do to debug this. FYI, I'm using Windows 98 SE, and all my cygwin packages are up to date. Cheers, JS. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From cgf@redhat.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: .bat from xterm opens cmd.exe window In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030109075926.GA14216@redhat.com> On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 07:01:08PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: >On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > >> On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: >> >> > > > echo sleep 10 > test.bat >> > > > ./test.bat >> >> I had not verified that. How, after Igor stated that cmd shows up in xterm I >> tried this too and it works for me. Even the snippet above displays in the >> xterm window. >> >> bye >> ago > >FWIW, I'm getting the same behavior as reported by the original poster >(i.e., any cygwin program called from a batch file from an xterm pops up a >new window). > >However, I believe I have an explanation of what's happening, though not a >solution: >Cygwin programs running in an xterm have a tty that does not have a >console window associated with it. When any cygwin program is invoked, it >checks (through a part of cygwin1.dll) whether it's running in a tty, and >if so, does not try to manipulate the console at all. However, when >cmd.exe is run in such a setting, it loses the tty information. Thus, a >program invoked from this cmd.exe session has neither a tty nor a console >window, so it has to allocate one. Hope this makes sense. That sounds like exactly what is going on, Igor. Thank you for explaining it so well. >To the original poster: since there is no way to propagate tty information >through a cmd.exe session, I suppose the best solution would still be the >one Alexander proposed, i.e., live with it. Why would one want to call a >batch file from an xterm, anyway? Especially a .bat file that is calling cygwin programs. cgf From Dr.Volker.Zell@oracle.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: Dr.Volker.Zell@oracle.com (Dr. Volker Zell) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip In-Reply-To: ("Harold L Hunt II"'s message of "Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:18:45 -0500") References: Message-ID: <87u1gqwcs3.fsf@vzell-de.de.oracle.com> Hi This version of xwinclip works fine but makes for example xemacs and nedit unusuable because the highlighted selection isn't preserved. Ciao Volker From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Cross Compiling - Annoying warnings Message-ID: I sat down tonight to do a great amount of programming. Instead, I have been tracking annoying build warnings and fighting with Windows XP to try to tell it, no, I really do want to search every single file, not just the ones that Microsoft products are known to store text in... anyway... The build warnings are below; they repeat for every Imakefile that is processed during the build. Okay, forget about HasMakefileSafeInclude... I want to fix UseInstalledOnCrossCompile first. Now, UseInstalledOnCrossCompile is a YES/NO define, it is not a flag that is either defined or not defined. Thus, the following lines that declare it are stupid: /* * X-specific things */ #if CrossCompiling # if defined UseInstalled && !defined UseInstalledOnCrossCompile # define UseInstalledOnCrossCompile YES # endif #endif So, if you aren't cross compiling, or if you are but you didn't specify UseInstalled, then the flag will simply not be defined. It won't be defined to NO, like it should be. I made the following changes that seemed to clear up this set of error messages: /* * X-specific things */ #if CrossCompiling # if defined UseInstalled && !defined UseInstalledOnCrossCompile # define UseInstalledOnCrossCompile YES # else # define UseInstalledOnCrossCompile NO # endif #else # define UseInstalledOnCrossCompile NO #endif Any comments? Harold make[3]: Entering directory `/home/harold/x-devel/build/std/include' In file included from ../../config/cf/cygwin.cf:358, from ../../config/cf/Imake.tmpl:104, from Imakefile.c:14: ../../config/cf/cygwin.rules:408: warning: `HasMakefileSafeInclude' is not defined In file included from ../../config/cf/Imake.tmpl:1999, from Imakefile.c:14: ../../config/cf/X11.tmpl:1589: warning: `UseInstalledOnCrossCompile' is not defined In file included from ../../config/cf/Imake.tmpl:1999, from Imakefile.c:14: ../../config/cf/X11.tmpl:3383: warning: `UseInstalledOnCrossCompile' is not defined ../../config/cf/X11.tmpl:3538: warning: `UseInstalledOnCrossCompile' is not defined ../../config/cf/X11.tmpl:3559: warning: `UseInstalledOnCrossCompile' is not defined ../../config/cf/X11.tmpl:3581: warning: `UseInstalledOnCrossCompile' is not defined ../../config/cf/X11.tmpl:3633: warning: `UseInstalledOnCrossCompile' is not defined ../../config/cf/X11.tmpl:3652: warning: `UseInstalledOnCrossCompile' is not defined ../../config/cf/X11.tmpl:3724: warning: `UseInstalledOnCrossCompile' is not defined ../../config/cf/X11.tmpl:3754: warning: `UseInstalledOnCrossCompile' is not defined ../../config/cf/X11.tmpl:3770: warning: `UseInstalledOnCrossCompile' is not defined ../../config/cf/X11.tmpl:3812: warning: `UseInstalledOnCrossCompile' is not defined make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/harold/x-devel/build/std/include' From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Multiwindow mode References: Message-ID: <3E21BF47.8030002@msu.edu> Kensuke, Great! Thanks, Harold Kensuke Matsuzaki wrote: From zakki@peppermint.jp Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: zakki@peppermint.jp (Kensuke Matsuzaki) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Multiwindow mode References: Message-ID: Hi, This patch solve a problem another way. X Server move/resize window. instead of window manager. Perhaps this patch is smarter than a previous patch. Kensuke Matsuzaki -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: multiwindow.tar.bz2 Type: application/x-bzip2 Size: 12485 bytes Desc: not available URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip In-Reply-To: <87u1gqwcs3.fsf@vzell-de.de.oracle.com> References: <87u1gqwcs3.fsf@vzell-de.de.oracle.com> Message-ID: <3E159A4B.7070903@msu.edu> Thanks Volker. Of course, we know about the selection highlighting problem :) Harold Dr. Volker Zell wrote: >Hi > >This version of xwinclip works fine but makes for example >xemacs and nedit unusuable because the highlighted selection isn't >preserved. > >Ciao > Volker > > > > From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: .bat from xterm opens cmd.exe window In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > > > > > echo sleep 10 > test.bat > > > > ./test.bat > > I had not verified that. How, after Igor stated that cmd shows up in xterm I > tried this too and it works for me. Even the snippet above displays in the > xterm window. > > bye > ago FWIW, I'm getting the same behavior as reported by the original poster (i.e., any cygwin program called from a batch file from an xterm pops up a new window). However, I believe I have an explanation of what's happening, though not a solution: Cygwin programs running in an xterm have a tty that does not have a console window associated with it. When any cygwin program is invoked, it checks (through a part of cygwin1.dll) whether it's running in a tty, and if so, does not try to manipulate the console at all. However, when cmd.exe is run in such a setting, it loses the tty information. Thus, a program invoked from this cmd.exe session has neither a tty nor a console window, so it has to allocate one. Hope this makes sense. To the original poster: since there is no way to propagate tty information through a cmd.exe session, I suppose the best solution would still be the one Alexander proposed, i.e., live with it. Why would one want to call a batch file from an xterm, anyway? Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! Oh, boy, virtual memory! Now I'm gonna make myself a really *big* RAMdisk! -- /usr/games/fortune From cgf@redhat.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: state of multiwindow mode In-Reply-To: <3E15EB70.4020909@msu.edu> References: <3E15EB70.4020909@msu.edu> Message-ID: <20030103201006.GA1262@redhat.com> On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 02:58:40PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >I have not released a new test version because I have been bogged down >in compilation problems and updating the documentation. > >Patience... patience... But, but... I want it nnnooowwwwwww! Please provide hourly updates of your progress or I withhold further payment. cgf From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: .bat from xterm opens cmd.exe window In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, McEligot, Sean (contractor) wrote: > > > Lately, running batch files (and perhaps other programs) from xterm or rxvt > > have been opening new cmd.exe windows. they used to output directly to the > > xterm console. To recreate from xterm run: > > > > echo sleep 10 > test.bat > > ./test.bat > > > > On my machine, a cmd.exe window pops up for 10 seconds then disappears. > > > > What I expect to happen is the xterm would run the batch file without > > popping up a new window and any output would go to the xterm. > > The only interpreter for batch files is cmd.exe. After being started, cmd > check if it has console (the windows terminal window) attached and creates > one if not. > > Xterm (or better the bash running in xterm) has no possibility to tell cm.exe > to use the xterm window. > > Solution: live with it or use shell scripts. > bye > ago That's not quite what's happening. Windows cmd.exe has no problem with running within an xterm, as can be easily verified by typing cmd.exe at a bash prompt. However, once cmd.exe is running, any *cygwin* program started from that cmd (e.g., bash) will pop up a new window. ISTR some discussion of this on the cygwin list, but don't remember whether there was any resolution. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! Oh, boy, virtual memory! Now I'm gonna make myself a really *big* RAMdisk! -- /usr/games/fortune From aremick@pacbell.net Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: aremick@pacbell.net (aremick) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: opening a X session with linux box breaks routing on both client and server Message-ID: Hi all, I have a linux box running Red Hat 7.3, and Cygwin-XFree running on a Win2000 machine. Both are running in a private 192.168 subnet. Initially, both boxes can happily connect to the internet via the gateway at 192.168.0.1. Then I open a cygwin shell and connect with: XWin -query The X window opens appropriately with window manager niceties, and everything works fine between the two. However, now neither one can ping the gateway or get out to the internet. Though they can reach other machines in the 192.168. network. Does anyone have an approach for debugging this? I'm at a loss and can find nothing relevant on the Cygwin-XFree site or the Red Hat site. thanks, aaron remick -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Aaron Remick.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 857 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sanori@sanori.net Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: sanori@sanori.net (Joo-won Jung) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip-Test07 does not work with XWin -query Message-ID: <20030107135919.GA19975@sanori.net> > Sanori, > > Let me tell you, I wrote xwinclip and I still don't fully understand how to > make it work well when using -query. > > I can tell you that running xhost on your Windows machine won't help > anything. What you need to do is run xhost in a terminal that is running > within your -query session. That should setup XWin.exe on your machine to > accept connections from local clients. The reason you can run xhost on your > Windows machine is that not even xhost has permission to connect to XWin.exe > at that point, so xhost cannot modify the access control list. I know that only the clients on XDM host have control on control list of the X server when I run X with '-query' option, and I did so. > I hope that helps, let us know if it does. > > Harold Now I found the problem. xwinclip.exe does not process '-display' option. I found this after seeing the source code of xwinclip. I think it would be better if xwinclip process '-display' option as other X clients do, or give error message if the option is not recognized. (Someone may say that it's the bash's fault since bash does not set DISPLAY environment variable.) I tried 'export DISPLAY=:0' and 'xwinclip' instead of doing 'xwinclip -display :0', then it works. Of course, I did 'xhost win_host_name' on the terminal before doing this. One more feature request: It would be better if the option for silent or designate the log file. Anyway, thank you for xwinclip. It helps me a lot. I hope my tip help others. -Sanori > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Joo-won Jung > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 8:49 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: xwinclip-Test07 does not work with XWin -query > > > Hello list, > > Thank you, the developers and users of XFree86-cygwin. > Most of the cases XFree86-cygwin works fine on my computer. > But, I want to tell a problem that I have got in stuck. > > I'm using Windows XP. I succeeded copy&paste text between Windows > and X window using xwinclip. But I failed copy&paste when I start X > with -query option. The error messages of xwinclip is as follows: > > UnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP > Could not open display, try: 1, sleeping: 4 > Could not open display, try: 2, sleeping: 4 > Could not open display, try: 3, sleeping: 4 > Failed opening the display, giving up > > I added my host to X control list, using "xhost" and tried > "xwinclip -display :0" but it gives same error message. > Since "xclipboard -display :0" worked, I bet I did not wrong > in X control list. > > I don't know how the xwinclip.exe works. > Please give me some information or pointers about this problem. > > -Sanori From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Error linking GLUT References: <20030110185322.84133.qmail@web13904.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3E1F1EC8.8010308@msu.edu> Manuel, Yes, it is very possible. You need to grab the XFree86-prog package, and you need to make sure that your -L link flags are in the correct order. Output from the compiler (with the actual commands shown) would help us figure out what is wrong. Harold Manuel Garcia Rodriguez wrote: I'm trying to compile Redbook examples, but ld is unable to resolve glut calls. I'm trying to use X11/GL, not Win32, is it possible?. I've installed ALL packages (including XFree and Opengl). I've got Windows XP SP1, videocard Radeon 9000, cygwin is installed on c:\cygwin. Thanks. Manuel. ___________________________________________________ Yahoo! Postales Felicita las Navidades con las postales m????s divertidas desde http://postales.yahoo.es From manueluniversidad@yahoo.es Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: manueluniversidad@yahoo.es (Manuel Garcia Rodriguez) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Error linking GLUT Message-ID: <20030110185322.84133.qmail@web13904.mail.yahoo.com> I'm trying to compile Redbook examples, but ld is unable to resolve glut calls. I'm trying to use X11/GL, not Win32, is it possible?. I've installed ALL packages (including XFree and Opengl). I've got Windows XP SP1, videocard Radeon 9000, cygwin is installed on c:\cygwin. Thanks. Manuel. ___________________________________________________ Yahoo! Postales Felicita las Navidades con las postales m????s divertidas desde http://postales.yahoo.es From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: .bat from xterm opens cmd.exe window In-Reply-To: <6318D0028701D3119DB30000D11BB1A902B08460@hq10.army.mil> Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, McEligot, Sean (contractor) wrote: > Lately, running batch files (and perhaps other programs) from xterm or rxvt > have been opening new cmd.exe windows. they used to output directly to the > xterm console. To recreate from xterm run: > > echo sleep 10 > test.bat > ./test.bat > > On my machine, a cmd.exe window pops up for 10 seconds then disappears. > > What I expect to happen is the xterm would run the batch file without > popping up a new window and any output would go to the xterm. The only interpreter for batch files is cmd.exe. After being started, cmd check if it has console (the windows terminal window) attached and creates one if not. Xterm (or better the bash running in xterm) has no possibility to tell cm.exe to use the xterm window. Solution: live with it or use shell scripts. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: alexander.gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: .bat from xterm opens cmd.exe window In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > > > echo sleep 10 > test.bat > > > ./test.bat I had not verified that. How, after Igor stated that cmd shows up in xterm I tried this too and it works for me. Even the snippet above displays in the xterm window. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Default OS Versions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030103085227.GC866@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 11:27:43PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Alan, > > I doubt that this was the intended effect of using the default OS versions: > ============== > make[1]: Entering directory `/home/harold/x-devel/build/std' > > Building on Cygwin > (DefaultOSMajorVersion.DefaultOSMinorVersion.DefaultOSTeenyVersion). > > GCC version: 2.95 > ============== > > Any ideas? It works here. Are you cross-compiling ? Alan. From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Cross Compiling host.def In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Harold L Hunt II wrote: > I just updated the Contributor's Guide yesterday and I meant to check if we > still needed a host.def file. I seem to have messed up somewhere and left > with the impression that we did not need a host.def file anymore... but it > seems that I didn't actually delete the host.def file and now I don't know > if we need it or not. So, as a sanity check, I want to ask if other cross > compilers out there are using a host.def file. I do. But mainly for setting the debug build, the Pseudo relocation stuff and those include dirs you have defined too. I'll check if we can somehow remove them. bye ago NP: VNV Nation - Amhran Comhrac -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Patch for multiple monitors References: <000d01c2b8c4$aeb259e0$340000c0@HESTIA> Message-ID: <3E1EF61B.3060400@msu.edu> Nick, Wow! I like it alot! I am currently trying to get a build of Kensuke's latest multiwindow patch posted and a patch to xwinclip to handle the -display parameter. Once I get those done I will start merging your patch. Or, I may merge them both at once, but it would probably be wiser to wait so we have two versions to assign bug blame :) Thanks for the patch, Harold Nick Crabtree wrote: Hi, I attach a patch for multiple monitors, diffed against xwin-20021107-0015. I have added a command-line flag -multiplemonitors which activates the extra code. This works on my machine in both windowed and rootless modes for engines 1, 2 and 4. It does not work in fullscreen mode because the defaults for the fullscreen dimensions are calculated before the command line parameters are parsed (as far as I could figure out). It should be possible to make this behaviour the default (SM_CXSCREEN == SM_CXVIRTUALSCREEN etc. if there is only one monitor), which would remove many of the if {} else {} blocks, and also might make fullscreen mode work My machine is running Windows 2000. Both my graphics cards are set at 1600x1200 32bit colour. It's great - I'm running KDE in rootless mode, and I get the kicker across the bottom of both monitors, and I can drag X windows from one monitor to the other ... Comments? Nick diff -uw ./InitOutput.c ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/InitOutput.c --- ./InitOutput.c 2002-11-07 05:21:18.000000000 +0000 +++ ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/InitOutput.c 2003-01-09 16:51:10.000000000 +0000 @@ -114,7 +114,8 @@ /* Zero the memory used for storing the screen info */ ZeroMemory (g_ScreenInfo, MAXSCREENS * sizeof (winScreenInfo)); - /* Get default width and height */ + /* Get default width and height. These will just be for the primary + monitor in the case that we have multiple monitors. */ dwWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXSCREEN); dwHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYSCREEN); @@ -139,6 +140,7 @@ g_ScreenInfo[i].fFullScreen = FALSE; g_ScreenInfo[i].fDecoration = TRUE; g_ScreenInfo[i].fRootless = FALSE; + g_ScreenInfo[i].fMultiplemonitors = FALSE; g_ScreenInfo[i].fLessPointer = FALSE; g_ScreenInfo[i].fScrollbars = FALSE; g_ScreenInfo[i].iE3BTimeout = WIN_E3B_OFF; @@ -303,6 +305,10 @@ ErrorF ("-rootless\n" "\tEXPERIMENTAL: Run the server in pseudo-rootless mode.\n"); + ErrorF ("-multiplemonitors\n" + "\tEXPERIMENTAL: Use the entire virtual screen if multiple\n" + "\tmonitors are present.\n"); + ErrorF ("-scrollbars\n" "\tIn windowed mode, allow screens bigger than the Windows desktop.\n" "\tMoreover, if the window has decorations, one can now resize\n" @@ -653,6 +659,32 @@ } /* + * Look for the '-multiplemonitors' argument + */ + if (strcmp (argv[i], "-multiplemonitors") == 0) + { + /* Is this parameter attached to a screen or is it global? */ + if (-1 == g_iLastScreen) + { + int j; + + /* Parameter is for all screens */ + for (j = 0; j < MAXSCREENS; j++) + { + g_ScreenInfo[j].fMultiplemonitors = TRUE; + } + } + else + { + /* Parameter is for a single screen */ + g_ScreenInfo[g_iLastScreen].fMultiplemonitors = TRUE; + } + + /* Indicate that we have processed this argument */ + return 1; + } + + /* * Look for the '-scrollbars' argument */ if (strcmp (argv[i], "-scrollbars") == 0) diff -uw ./win.h ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/win.h --- ./win.h 2002-11-07 05:33:17.000000000 +0000 +++ ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/win.h 2003-01-09 16:51:38.000000000 +0000 @@ -390,6 +390,7 @@ Bool fFullScreen; Bool fDecoration; Bool fRootless; + Bool fMultiplemonitors; Bool fLessPointer; Bool fScrollbars; int iE3BTimeout; diff -uw ./wincreatewnd.c ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/wincreatewnd.c --- ./wincreatewnd.c 2002-10-19 04:56:52.000000000 +0100 +++ ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/wincreatewnd.c 2003-01-10 15:11:26.000000000 +0000 @@ -31,16 +31,17 @@ #include "win.h" #include "shellapi.h" /* * Local function prototypes */ static Bool +winGetWorkArea (RECT *prcWorkArea, winScreenInfo *pScreenInfo); +static Bool winAdjustForAutoHide (RECT *prcWorkArea); - /* * Create a full screen window */ @@ -155,7 +156,7 @@ RegisterClass (&wc); /* Get size of work area */ - SystemParametersInfo (SPI_GETWORKAREA, 0, &rcWorkArea, 0); + winGetWorkArea (&rcWorkArea, pScreenInfo); /* Adjust for auto-hide taskbars */ winAdjustForAutoHide (&rcWorkArea); @@ -206,10 +207,18 @@ * In this case we have to ignore the requested width and height * and instead use the largest possible window that we can. */ + if (pScreenInfo->fMultiplemonitors) + { + iWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXVIRTUALSCREEN); + iHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYVIRTUALSCREEN); + } + else + { iWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXSCREEN); iHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYSCREEN); } } + } else { /* By default, we are creating a window that is as large as possible */ @@ -217,6 +226,12 @@ ErrorF ("winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User did not give " "height and width\n"); #endif + /* Defaults are wrong if we have multiple monitors */ + if (pScreenInfo->fMultiplemonitors) + { + iWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXVIRTUALSCREEN); + iHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYVIRTUALSCREEN); + } } /* Clean up the scrollbars flag, if necessary */ @@ -368,6 +383,59 @@ /* + * Find the work area of all attached monitors + */ +static Bool +winGetWorkArea (RECT *prcWorkArea, winScreenInfo *pScreenInfo) +{ + /* SPI_GETWORKAREA only gets the work area of the primary screen. */ + SystemParametersInfo (SPI_GETWORKAREA, 0, prcWorkArea, 0); + if (pScreenInfo->fMultiplemonitors) + { + int iPrimaryWidth, iPrimaryHeight, iWidth, iHeight; + int iLeft, iTop, iPrimaryNonWorkAreaWidth, iPrimaryNonWorkAreaHeight; + + ErrorF ("winGetWorkArea - Original WorkArea: %d %d %d %d\n", + prcWorkArea->top, prcWorkArea->left, + prcWorkArea->bottom, prcWorkArea->right); + /* Get info on full virtual screen */ + iWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXVIRTUALSCREEN); + iHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYVIRTUALSCREEN); + ErrorF("winGetWorkArea - Virtual screen is %d x %d\n", iWidth, iHeight); + iLeft = GetSystemMetrics (SM_XVIRTUALSCREEN); + iTop = GetSystemMetrics (SM_YVIRTUALSCREEN); + ErrorF("winGetWorkArea - Virtual screen origin is %d, %d\n", iLeft, iTop); + + /* Get info on primary screen */ + iPrimaryWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXSCREEN); + iPrimaryHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYSCREEN); + ErrorF("winGetWorkArea - Primary screen is %d x %d\n", iPrimaryWidth, iPrimaryHeight); + + /* Work out how much of the primary screen we aren't using */ + iPrimaryNonWorkAreaWidth = iPrimaryWidth - (prcWorkArea->right - prcWorkArea->left); + iPrimaryNonWorkAreaHeight = iPrimaryHeight - (prcWorkArea->bottom - prcWorkArea->top); + + /* Update the rectangle to include all monitors */ + if (iLeft < 0) + { + prcWorkArea->left = iLeft; + } + if (iTop < 0) + { + prcWorkArea->top = iTop; + } + prcWorkArea->right = prcWorkArea->left + iWidth - iPrimaryNonWorkAreaWidth; + prcWorkArea->bottom = prcWorkArea->top + iHeight - iPrimaryNonWorkAreaHeight; + + ErrorF ("winGetWorkArea - Adjusted WorkArea for multiple monitors: %d %d %d %d\n", + prcWorkArea->top, prcWorkArea->left, + prcWorkArea->bottom, prcWorkArea->right); + } + return TRUE; +} + + +/* * Adjust the client area so that any auto-hide toolbars * will work correctly. */ diff -uw ./winscrinit.c ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winscrinit.c --- ./winscrinit.c 2002-11-07 05:21:18.000000000 +0000 +++ ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winscrinit.c 2003-01-10 09:27:45.000000000 +0000 @@ -113,6 +113,16 @@ #endif } + /* Check all monitors have the same display depth if we are using + multiple monitors */ + if (pScreenInfo->fMultiplemonitors + && ! GetSystemMetrics (SM_SAMEDISPLAYFORMAT)) + { + ErrorF ("Monitors do not all have same pixel format / display depth.\n" + "Using primary display only.\n"); + pScreenInfo->fMultiplemonitors = FALSE; + } + /* Create display window */ if (!(*pScreenPriv->pwinCreateBoundingWindow) (pScreen)) { @@ -123,8 +133,28 @@ /* Store the initial height, width, and depth of the display */ hdc = GetDC (pScreenPriv->hwndScreen); + /* Are we using multiple monitors? */ + if (pScreenInfo->fMultiplemonitors) + { + pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXVIRTUALSCREEN); + pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYVIRTUALSCREEN); + /* In this case, some of the defaults set in + winInitializeDefaultScreens() are not correct ... */ + if (!pScreenInfo->fUserGaveHeightAndWidth) + { + pScreenInfo->dwWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXVIRTUALSCREEN); + pScreenInfo->dwHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYVIRTUALSCREEN); + pScreenInfo->dwWidth_mm = (pScreenInfo->dwWidth / WIN_DEFAULT_DPI) + * 25.4; + pScreenInfo->dwHeight_mm = (pScreenInfo->dwHeight / WIN_DEFAULT_DPI) + * 25.4; + } + } + else + { pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXSCREEN); pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYSCREEN); + } pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsBitsPixel = GetDeviceCaps (hdc, BITSPIXEL); ReleaseDC (pScreenPriv->hwndScreen, hdc); diff -uw ./winshaddd.c ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winshaddd.c --- ./winshaddd.c 2002-10-19 04:56:53.000000000 +0100 +++ ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winshaddd.c 2003-01-10 09:48:28.000000000 +0000 @@ -230,6 +230,7 @@ { DDSURFACEDESC ddsdCurrent; DWORD dwRefreshRateCurrent = 0; + DWORD dwWidth, dwHeight; HDC hdc = NULL; /* Set the cooperative level to full screen */ @@ -289,8 +290,18 @@ } /* Only change the video mode when different than current mode */ - if (pScreenInfo->dwWidth != GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXSCREEN) - || pScreenInfo->dwHeight != GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYSCREEN) + if (pScreenInfo->fMultiplemonitors) + { + dwWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXVIRTUALSCREEN); + dwHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYVIRTUALSCREEN); + } + else + { + dwWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXSCREEN); + dwHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYSCREEN); + } + if (pScreenInfo->dwWidth != dwWidth + || pScreenInfo->dwHeight != dwHeight || pScreenInfo->dwBPP != GetDeviceCaps (hdc, BITSPIXEL) || pScreenInfo->dwRefreshRate != 0) { diff -uw ./winshadddnl.c ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winshadddnl.c --- ./winshadddnl.c 2002-10-19 04:56:53.000000000 +0100 +++ ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winshadddnl.c 2003-01-10 09:51:55.000000000 +0000 @@ -248,6 +248,7 @@ { DDSURFACEDESC2 ddsdCurrent; DWORD dwRefreshRateCurrent = 0; + DWORD dwWidth, dwHeight; HDC hdc = NULL; /* Set the cooperative level to full screen */ @@ -307,8 +308,18 @@ } /* Only change the video mode when different than current mode */ - if (pScreenInfo->dwWidth != GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXSCREEN) - || pScreenInfo->dwHeight != GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYSCREEN) + if (pScreenInfo->fMultiplemonitors) + { + dwWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXVIRTUALSCREEN); + dwHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYVIRTUALSCREEN); + } + else + { + dwWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXSCREEN); + dwHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYSCREEN); + } + if (pScreenInfo->dwWidth != dwWidth + || pScreenInfo->dwHeight != dwHeight || pScreenInfo->dwBPP != GetDeviceCaps (hdc, BITSPIXEL) || pScreenInfo->dwRefreshRate != 0) { diff -uw ./winwndproc.c ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winwndproc.c --- ./winwndproc.c 2002-10-19 04:56:53.000000000 +0100 +++ ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winwndproc.c 2003-01-10 09:45:48.000000000 +0000 @@ -137,8 +137,20 @@ * We do this here for future compatibility in case we * ever allow switching from fullscreen to windowed mode. */ - s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXSCREEN); - s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYSCREEN); + if (s_pScreenInfo->fMultiplemonitors) + { + s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsWidth + = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXVIRTUALSCREEN); + s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsHeight + = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYVIRTUALSCREEN); + } + else + { + s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsWidth + = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXSCREEN); + s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsHeight + = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYSCREEN); + } s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsBitsPixel = GetDeviceCaps (s_pScreenPriv->hdcScreen, BITSPIXEL); break; @@ -280,8 +292,18 @@ } /* Store the new display dimensions and depth */ + if (s_pScreenInfo->fMultiplemonitors) + { + s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsWidth + = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXVIRTUALSCREEN); + s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsHeight + = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYVIRTUALSCREEN); + } + else + { s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXSCREEN); s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYSCREEN); + } s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsBitsPixel = GetDeviceCaps (s_pScreenPriv->hdcScreen, BITSPIXEL); break; From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: state of multiwindow mode In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E15EB70.4020909@msu.edu> Yadin, I have not released a new test version because I have been bogged down in compilation problems and updating the documentation. Patience... patience... Harold Yadin Y. Goldschmidt wrote: >Harold, >On 12/24 Kensuke advertised for a patch for the multiwindow mode problem. >Why is the code not distributed with setup? If it works now when is it going >to be available to a larger audience? > > > > > > From sanori@sanori.net Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: sanori@sanori.net (Joo-won Jung) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip-Test07 does not work with XWin -query Message-ID: <20030105134912.GA15421@sanori.net> Hello list, Thank you, the developers and users of XFree86-cygwin. Most of the cases XFree86-cygwin works fine on my computer. But, I want to tell a problem that I have got in stuck. I'm using Windows XP. I succeeded copy&paste text between Windows and X window using xwinclip. But I failed copy&paste when I start X with -query option. The error messages of xwinclip is as follows: UnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP Could not open display, try: 1, sleeping: 4 Could not open display, try: 2, sleeping: 4 Could not open display, try: 3, sleeping: 4 Failed opening the display, giving up I added my host to X control list, using "xhost" and tried "xwinclip -display :0" but it gives same error message. Since "xclipboard -display :0" worked, I bet I did not wrong in X control list. I don't know how the xwinclip.exe works. Please give me some information or pointers about this problem. -Sanori From kumarchi@attbi.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: kumarchi@attbi.com (kumarchi@attbi.com) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: xwindow to the foreground Message-ID: gurus: when I have multiple windows open, I had to click on the title bar on a window to bring it to the foreground. Is there way I can change this behavior so that whenever I click on a window it automaticlly brings it to the foreground? thanx From vervoom@hotmail.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 70 Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 70 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ You can install the Test 70 package via setup.exe by selecting the 'test' package (and be sure to check the 'Bin' box): XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-18 Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network ( http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html ) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror ( http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html ). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test70.exe.bz2 (1196 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20030112-1434.tar.bz2 (95 KiB) Changes: 1) EXPERIMENTAL: New multiwindow mode (invoked with the ``-multiwindow'' command-line parameter) that creates each top-level X window in a Microsoft Windows window. Note that there are still debugging options on in this release, so do not expect multiwindow mode to be polished enough for everyday use. (Kensuke Matsuzaki) Enjoy, Harold Hi Harold, I've just tried to test it out on my windows machine at home and got a sefmentation fault. $ xwin -multiwindow Segmentation fault (core dumped) Nothing is written to /tmp/xwin.log and there isn't even a core file. Not sure what else I can do to debug this. FYI, I'm using Windows 98 SE, and all my cygwin packages are up to date. Cheers, JS. Sorry just found /tmp/Xwinrl.log is used instead of /tmp/xwin.log. This is all I got though: winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 24 winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () null screen fn ReparentWindow null screen fn RestackWindow Queue Size 0 0 winScreenInit - returning (EE) No primary keyboard configured (==) Using compiletime defaults for keyboard Rules = "xfree86" Model = "pc101" Layout = "us" Variant = "(null)" Options = "(n ull)" DISPLAY=:0.0 Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! 10104218:winCreateWindowMultiWindow 10104218:winPositionWindowMultiWindow 10104218:winChangeWindowAttributesMultiWindow 10104218:winMapWindowMultiWindow winUpdateWindowsWindow -winUpdateWindowsWindow _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Missing Lesstif source file in cygwin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030103161756.GD31270@redhat.com> Redirecting to the cygwin-xfree mailing list. On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 05:13:17PM +0100, Dimitri Pissarenko wrote: >Hello! > >I'm trying to use a cygwin system with X-windows (Lesstif window >manager) in order to run an image processing environmtent XMW >(http://amiserver.dis.ulpgc.es/). > >When I run the script, which compiles an XMW file (this script mostly >complies a C program with gcc; see attachment, file cxmw), I get >several errors - the gcc compiler can not find some of the Lesstif >source files: > > >... >/usr/X11R6/include/Xm/XmP.h:29:28: X11/IntrinsicP.h: No such file or >directory >... >/usr/X11R6/include/Xm/Xm.h:32:27: X11/Intrinsic.h: No such file or >directory >/usr/X11R6/include/Xm/Xm.h:33:23: X11/Shell.h: No such file or >directory >/usr/X11R6/include/Xm/Xm.h:34:23: X11/Xatom.h: No such file or >directory >... >/usr/X11R6/include/Xm/XmStrDefs.h:29:28: X11/StringDefs.h: No such >file or directory >... > > >Is it possible to solve this problem or is migration to a "real" linux >system inevitable? Would the corresponding files from, say SuSE linux, >be suitable? > >Thanks in advance > >Dimitri Pissarenko From zakki@peppermint.jp Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: zakki@peppermint.jp (Kensuke Matsuzaki) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Multiwindow mode References: Message-ID: Harold, I wraped debug code with #if CYGMULTIWINDOW_DEBUG out, and defined CYGMULTIWINDOW_DEBUG in winwindow.h. Kensuke Matsuzaki -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test70.exe.bz2 (1196 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20030112-1434.tar.bz2 (95 KiB) Changes: 1) EXPERIMENTAL: New multiwindow mode (invoked with the ``-multiwindow'' command-line parameter) that creates each top-level X window in a Microsoft Windows window. Note that there are still debugging options on in this release, so do not expect multiwindow mode to be polished enough for everyday use. (Kensuke Matsuzaki) Enjoy, Harold From jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk (Jeremy Wilkins) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: -display patch for xwinclip Message-ID: <3E1C54D7.4010307@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk> Hi, Attached is a patch which adds support for the -display and --display command line parameters to xwinclip. Its my first attempt at C coding so I've got no idea if its good coding practice, it runs fine on my machine. It emits a warning when compiling about how I've declared a character array, not sure how to fix this, any suggestions?? Its diffed against xwinclip-20021229-2344.tar.bz2, not sure if its the correct diff format - never used that before either. comments? jeremy -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: xwinclip.diff URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip-Test07 does not work with XWin -query In-Reply-To: <20030107135919.GA19975@sanori.net> References: <20030107135919.GA19975@sanori.net> Message-ID: <3E1ADEE1.7040408@msu.edu> Your advice consists of ``it would be better if someone had some time to polish some rough edges in xwinclip.'' Are you suggesting that you have some time to polish those rough edges? As you said yourself, none of it is hard to do. Harold Joo-won Jung wrote: >>Sanori, >> >>Let me tell you, I wrote xwinclip and I still don't fully understand how to >>make it work well when using -query. >> >>I can tell you that running xhost on your Windows machine won't help >>anything. What you need to do is run xhost in a terminal that is running >>within your -query session. That should setup XWin.exe on your machine to >>accept connections from local clients. The reason you can run xhost on your >>Windows machine is that not even xhost has permission to connect to XWin.exe >>at that point, so xhost cannot modify the access control list. >> >> > >I know that only the clients on XDM host have control on control >list of the X server when I run X with '-query' option, and I did so. > > > >>I hope that helps, let us know if it does. >> >>Harold >> >> > >Now I found the problem. xwinclip.exe does not process '-display' option. >I found this after seeing the source code of xwinclip. >I think it would be better if xwinclip process '-display' option as >other X clients do, or give error message if the option is not >recognized. >(Someone may say that it's the bash's fault since bash does not set > DISPLAY environment variable.) > >I tried 'export DISPLAY=:0' and 'xwinclip' instead of doing >'xwinclip -display :0', then it works. Of course, I did >'xhost win_host_name' on the terminal before doing this. > >One more feature request: It would be better if the option for silent >or designate the log file. > >Anyway, thank you for xwinclip. It helps me a lot. > >I hope my tip help others. > >-Sanori > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com >>[mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Joo-won Jung >>Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 8:49 AM >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>Subject: xwinclip-Test07 does not work with XWin -query >> >> >>Hello list, >> >>Thank you, the developers and users of XFree86-cygwin. >>Most of the cases XFree86-cygwin works fine on my computer. >>But, I want to tell a problem that I have got in stuck. >> >>I'm using Windows XP. I succeeded copy&paste text between Windows >>and X window using xwinclip. But I failed copy&paste when I start X >>with -query option. The error messages of xwinclip is as follows: >> >> UnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP >> Could not open display, try: 1, sleeping: 4 >> Could not open display, try: 2, sleeping: 4 >> Could not open display, try: 3, sleeping: 4 >> Failed opening the display, giving up >> >>I added my host to X control list, using "xhost" and tried >>"xwinclip -display :0" but it gives same error message. >>Since "xclipboard -display :0" worked, I bet I did not wrong >>in X control list. >> >>I don't know how the xwinclip.exe works. >>Please give me some information or pointers about this problem. >> >>-Sanori >> >> > > > > From asimha@asimha-w2k.cisco.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: asimha@asimha-w2k.cisco.com (Ajay Simha) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: cut & paste from window apps Message-ID: <20030103185358.GD2272@cisco.com> Hi all, I installed cygwin last night: $ uname -a CYGWIN_NT-5.0 ASIMHA-W2K 1.3.18(0.69/3/2) 2002-12-25 15:37 i686 unknown I also installed kde2. Everything was great until I restarted my pc for something. Now all of a sudden my cut & paste from window apps don't work and also my middle mouse does not paste like it did last night. Any ideas where I should start looking? Thanks in advance. -ajay From mtoeller@ivast.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: mtoeller@ivast.com (Martin Toeller) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: website link error Message-ID: <5AAA3DB471413C438F8ACEA91C983E4B60C9B0@exchange.ivast.com> Regarding the page at http://www.cygwin.com/xfree/ The link to the user's guide is incorrect - it points to the contributor's guide. From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit fullscreen still problematic Message-ID: Have you tried dropping the Windows Desktop down to 256 colors and running XWin WITHOUT the -engine or -fullscreen flags? When all else fails, this usually works (but of couse has the undesireable effect of making your Windows programs look ugly). >From: Staf Verhaegen >Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Subject: 8 bit fullscreen still problematic >Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 10:57:47 +0100 > >Hello, > >I still have problems with 8 bit of XFree86. I'm using the latest version >available with setup. Also checked to see if there are conflicting >cygwin.dlls and this is not the case. I'm running on an NT4 machine. >I try to start XWin in fullscreen mode with a depth of 8. (Xwin -fullscreen >-depth 8). >With engine 1 the XWin crashes. >With engine 2 and 4 is starts up but I only get a black and white display >when doing XDMCP to RH7.2 with gdm or to HPUX10.20 with CDE. (screen grabs >are available and I will post them on request, around 40KB in total). >The problem is that cadence Virtuoso needs an 8 bit display. I tried >running 24bit XWin with -emulatepseudo option but then the program still >complains that it can't handle 24 planes. > >greets, > >+----------------------------------------+-----------------------------+ >|Staf Verhaegen (staf.verhaegen@imec.be) |ADRESS: IMEC vzw. - ASP/LITHO| >|tel: 016/ 281 783 | Kapeldreef 75 | >|fax: 016/ 281 214 | 3001 Leuven (Belgium)| >+----------------------------------------+-----------------------------+ > For every tool there are at least 2 uses: the one it was designed for > and the other for which it wasn't. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From STEPHEN.Bovy@ca.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: STEPHEN.Bovy@ca.com (Bovy, Stephen) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless Mode Message-ID: <8C6B052884783549B5D30C166853A5140175D270@usilms21.ca.com> FYI I have been experimenting with "exceed" window manager and "cygwin" Integration/synergy. It is "interesting" to note that I can execute the "windowmaker" cygwin-port and get it To work natively with the "exceed" X-window server. The clip , the dock , ect all Pop-up as "icons" on my windows desktop. Now if this capability could be further refined to work with "cygwin" in rootless mode, In a manner that is complimentry/compatible/integrated and non-disruptive with the Normal windows desktop and/or other windows, and maybee even try to integrate it With the "task/bar" .. Then we would have a very powerfull "integration" technology. Of course "unfortunately" the window-maker port is currently "broken" so it is hard To do further "experiments" -----Original Message----- From: Bovy, Stephen Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:07 PM To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' Subject: Rootless Mode I have tried the server test series with "rootless" mode. I find it very usefull. Here is my dumb opinion. We need a Native Microsft-Cygwin "Window Manager" designed to work in "rootless mode". Also FYI. The "Window Maker" "port" isnt working with the most recent "builds" Of the cygwin libraries. From yadin@pitt.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: yadin@pitt.edu (Yadin Y Goldschmidt) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless Mode References: <8C6B052884783549B5D30C166853A5140175D239@usilms21.ca.com> <3E1E0FAD.1020404@msu.edu> Message-ID: I have Window Maker working fine with the recent built. (including rootless) I don't know what stephen is refering to. Yadin. "Harold L Hunt II" wrote in message news: 3E1E0FAD.1020404@msu.edu ... > Stephen, > > Kensuke Matsuzaki is working on the Windows-based window manager. > > If Window Maker is broke, then someone else is gonna have to fix it. I > released a few packages with the intention that others would take them > over, but no one has. So, if Window Maker is broke, then I will have to > pull the package from distribution. > > Any takers? > > Harold > > Bovy, Stephen wrote: > > >I have tried the server test series with "rootless" mode. > > > >I find it very usefull. Here is my dumb opinion. > > > >We need a Native Microsft-Cygwin "Window Manager" designed to work in > >"rootless mode". > > > >Also FYI. The "Window Maker" "port" isnt working with the most recent > >"builds" > >Of the cygwin libraries. > > > > > > From nhsave@rcn.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: nhsave@rcn.com (Mingdong Huang) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: how to change the background of xterm? Message-ID: The default background of xterm is white. I tried to change it to black by editing /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm-color file, but did not work. Any hints? Ming From Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com (Cary Jamison) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Transparent term background Message-ID: I have gnome-terminal's displayed from my Linux box. I can set the background transparent, but if I also click to make it shaded it just goes to black. Not sure what would cause this or where to even begin looking. Is it a missing extension in the server? Cary ---- Cary Jamison Cary.Jamison@PowerQuest.com (801) 705-8685 voice (801) 705-4685 fax From yadin@pitt.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: yadin@pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: state of multiwindow mode Message-ID: Harold, On 12/24 Kensuke advertised for a patch for the multiwindow mode problem. Why is the code not distributed with setup? If it works now when is it going to be available to a larger audience? From Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: Alexander.Gottwald@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Cross Compiling host.def In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Alexander Gottwald wrote: > Harold L Hunt II wrote: > > > I just updated the Contributor's Guide yesterday and I meant to check if we > > still needed a host.def file. I seem to have messed up somewhere and left > > with the impression that we did not need a host.def file anymore... but it > > seems that I didn't actually delete the host.def file and now I don't know > > if we need it or not. So, as a sanity check, I want to ask if other cross > > compilers out there are using a host.def file. > > I do. But mainly for setting the debug build, the Pseudo relocation stuff > and those include dirs you have defined too. I'll check if we can somehow > remove them. I've stripped my host.def to #define CygwinPseudoReloc YES #ifndef DefaultCDebugFlags #define DefaultCDebugFlags -ggdb3 #endif #ifndef Freetype2Dir #define Freetype2Dir /usr/i686-pc-cygwin32 #endif #if 1 # undef BuildDebug # undef XFree86Devel # define BuildDebug YES # define XFree86Devel YES #endif As you can see these are only local defines and are not needed to do a crosscompilation (only the freetype thing might be a problem). bye ago NP: VNV Nation - Electronaut -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Multiwindow mode References: Message-ID: <3E1DAC22.2020101@msu.edu> Kensuke, Sounds good. The last patch description didn't exactly inspire any confidence that the problem had been solved :) Harold Kensuke Matsuzaki wrote: Hi, This patch solve a problem another way. X Server move/resize window. instead of window manager. Perhaps this patch is smarter than a previous patch. Kensuke Matsuzaki From pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu (Igor Pechtchanski) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: .bat from xterm opens cmd.exe window References: <6318D0028701D3119DB30000D11BB1A902B08461@hq10.army.mil> Message-ID: On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Sean McEligot wrote: > >To the original poster: since there is no way to propagate tty information > >through a cmd.exe session, I suppose the best solution would still be the > >one Alexander proposed, i.e., live with it. Why would one want to call a > >batch file from an xterm, anyway? > > Some programs use batch files on windows. In my case, an ant build script to > pops up a window when weblogic rmic is called. Another user had similar > issues with Jam in Sept. 2001. If I don't use cmd.exe, I won't see errors. > We also use batch files internally so developers can use either cygwin or > cmd.exe depending on their own personal preference. This used to work, and > still works for developers who don't upgrade as often as I do. Something > changed. I can always use cmd.exe, but I prefer to work in xterm. Ah, I guess I meant something like Christopher Faylor's followup comment: why would one want to call a batch file that calls cygwin programs (from Cygwin)? I don't see why you'd need to use batch files for internal development... As long as Cygwin's /bin directory is in the Windows path, they can invoke shell scripts through 'sh scriptname.sh' from either cmd.exe or xterm with the output going to the right console. There's no need for a batch file. The ant build script is a harder case. Here, if I understood correctly, you actually utilize a Windows program (WebLogic RMIC) from a Cygwin program (ANT). However, the problem you describe only appears if a Cygwin program is used from a batch file, which is in turn called by a Cygwin program. So either the RMIC process calls some Cygwin program (instead of its Windows equivalent), which is probably an error anyway, or something else is happening that was not intended to happen. Perhaps someone else on the list might have a better idea on how to deal with this, or you might provide further details. I still think that, as long as you cleanly separate Windows programs from Cygwin, you will not be affected by the tty problem. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! Oh, boy, virtual memory! Now I'm gonna make myself a really *big* RAMdisk! -- /usr/games/fortune From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Default OS Versions In-Reply-To: <20030103085227.GC866@fairlite.demon.co.uk> References: <20030103085227.GC866@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <3E158EA8.6080600@msu.edu> Alan, Yes, I was cross compiling. Harold Alan Hourihane wrote: >On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 11:27:43PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > > >>Alan, >> >>I doubt that this was the intended effect of using the default OS versions: >>============== >>make[1]: Entering directory `/home/harold/x-devel/build/std' >> >>Building on Cygwin >>(DefaultOSMajorVersion.DefaultOSMinorVersion.DefaultOSTeenyVersion). >> >>GCC version: 2.95 >>============== >> >>Any ideas? >> >> > >It works here. Are you cross-compiling ? > >Alan. > > From McEligotS@MTMC.ARMY.MIL Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: McEligotS@MTMC.ARMY.MIL (McEligot, Sean (contractor)) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: .bat from xterm opens cmd.exe window Message-ID: <6318D0028701D3119DB30000D11BB1A902B08460@hq10.army.mil> Lately, running batch files (and perhaps other programs) from xterm or rxvt have been opening new cmd.exe windows. they used to output directly to the xterm console. To recreate from xterm run: echo sleep 10 > test.bat ./test.bat On my machine, a cmd.exe window pops up for 10 seconds then disappears. What I expect to happen is the xterm would run the batch file without popping up a new window and any output would go to the xterm. I'm posting to cygwin-xfree because only xfree users are affected, but the bug/feature may be in cygwin itself. Thanks, Sean From tim@tirius.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: tim@tirius.com (Tim Kelly) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP Problem (must be connected to internet) Message-ID: <002801c2b470$a76e3670$0100a8c0@envelope> Hello. I have a Debian 3.0 box, and W2k box. I start an xwin session on my W2K box like so: xwin -query 192.168.0.2 (this is the address of the linux box). I find that I get my nice kde login window only while my W2K internet connection is active. Once I can see the KDE login screen I can saftly disconnect from the internet. Both my computers are on my LAN so I see no reason why I need to be on the internet. Can anybody explain?! For bonus points: xwin -fullscreen brings up an x-windows server on my primary display. I have a secondary display which I would prefer to use. As a workaround for now I am using windowed mode and dragging the window onto my secondary monitor. Any help much appreciated, TK From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless Mode References: <8C6B052884783549B5D30C166853A5140175D239@usilms21.ca.com> Message-ID: <3E1E0FAD.1020404@msu.edu> Stephen, Kensuke Matsuzaki is working on the Windows-based window manager. If Window Maker is broke, then someone else is gonna have to fix it. I released a few packages with the intention that others would take them over, but no one has. So, if Window Maker is broke, then I will have to pull the package from distribution. Any takers? Harold Bovy, Stephen wrote: I have tried the server test series with "rootless" mode. I find it very usefull. Here is my dumb opinion. We need a Native Microsft-Cygwin "Window Manager" designed to work in "rootless mode". Also FYI. The "Window Maker" "port" isnt working with the most recent "builds" Of the cygwin libraries. From andrew.markebo@telia.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: andrew.markebo@telia.com (Andrew Markebo) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Missing Lesstif source file in cygwin In-Reply-To: (Dimitri Pissarenko's message of "Fri, 03 Jan 2003 17:13:17 +0100") References: Message-ID: Hello, have you installed the lesstif development package??? Grabbing the missing files from linux is probably not a good idea, because you would then be missing the libraries.. Hmm seems to be the normal X11 include-files that are missing.. Have you installed XFree86-prog and XFree86-lib? /Andy [...] | | ... | /usr/X11R6/include/Xm/XmP.h:29:28: X11/IntrinsicP.h: No such file or | directory | ... [...] /Andy -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From tim@tirius.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: tim@tirius.com (Tim Kelly) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: XDMCP Problem (must be connected to internet) Message-ID: <001a01c2b4d1$997fcf90$0100a8c0@envelope> First of all I must correct my original message. I can get remote X clients, running on my Linux box to appear on my W2K box providing that my Dial Up Networking is connected to the internet. If I disconnect then the X-Client disappears off my screen. I now believe that this has something to do with the dynamic IP address that my ISP gives me when I connect. I think that the X-Client on my Linux box is using my dynamically allocated IP from my ISP to communicate with my W2K box. It is not using the 192.168.X.X one. This explains why I need to be connected to the internet for xwin to work. I tried this experiment: If I type: xwin -query 192.168.0.2 -from 192.168.0.1 it doesn't work However: xwin -query 192.168.0.2 -from ...
then it works. This confirms to me that LAN network addresses do not work for some reason. I thought maybe this has something to do with firewall settings, but I don't think iptables is even compiled into my debian kernel. This might be a good time to let people know that my W2K box is setup for Internet Connection Sharing (The linux box uses 192.168.0.1 as it's gateway to the internet). Anyone have any ideas! Regards, TK From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: state of multiwindow mode In-Reply-To: <20030103201006.GA1262@redhat.com> References: <3E15EB70.4020909@msu.edu> <20030103201006.GA1262@redhat.com> Message-ID: <3E15EF5E.9010501@msu.edu> Too late, you are fired. Harold Christopher Faylor wrote: >On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 02:58:40PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > > >>I have not released a new test version because I have been bogged down >>in compilation problems and updating the documentation. >> >>Patience... patience... >> >> > >But, but... I want it nnnooowwwwwww! > >Please provide hourly updates of your progress or I withhold further >payment. > >cgf > > From Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com (Cary Jamison) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: XFree and File Systems Message-ID: "Mart?n De Marchi" wrote in message news:<3E1084FB.DEEA5A2@fi.uba.ar>... > Hi! > > I'm developing a linux application, but the majority > of the pc's in my organization have installed windows > system, so Im going to install cigwin's xfree in the > machines and use the linux application remotely. Can you port it to cygwin? Have one executable for your Linux machines and one for your Windows machines. Cary From Juguetero2003@yahoo.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: Juguetero2003@yahoo.com (Busco juguetes) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: PAGO 700 pesos por 8 juguetes que podes tener! Message-ID: <4119-2200311682930737@yahoo.com> Hola!! Soy un coleccionista de juguetes y estoy buscando 8 mu?ecos de 1980 de la serie GIJOE y HEMAN. PAGO 700$ (pesos) EN EL ACTO A QUIEN DESEE VENDERLOS !! Podes ver las fotos de lo que busco clickeando en la direccion de abajo http://cablemodem.fibertel.com.ar/msn/buscados/index.htm Tambien busco EX EMPLEADOS DE LA EMPRESA PLASTIRAMA de juguetes, que estaba en San Luis - cualquier dato sera recompensado - PAGO POR BUSCAR: Como realmente quiero encontrarlos, y necesito ayuda en la busqueda, estoy dispuesto a pagar hasta 25$ por c/mu?eco que tenga la persona a quien le mandas este mail. Es decir, te podes ganar 25 * 8 = 200$ PESOS solo por mandar este mail si resultase que esa persona los tiene. Esta propuesta es 100% seria! Me comprometo a contactarme con la persona que re-envio este mail para pagarle 25$ POR CADA figura encontrada. - NO RESPONDER ESTE MAIL - ESCRIBIME A ESTA DIRECCION *UNICAMENTE* SI TENES LOS MU?ECOS Y QUERES VENDERLOS LaBase@Fibertel.com.ar Desde ya muchas gracias!! Sebastian From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: cut & paste from window apps In-Reply-To: <20030103185358.GD2272@cisco.com> References: <20030103185358.GD2272@cisco.com> Message-ID: <3E15DC65.80605@msu.edu> You need to run xwinclip. You probably accidentally ran it last night then forgot to run it today. xwinclip is available via setup.exe in the XFree86-xwinclip package. On the other hand, you could have just gotten confused and thought that you were cutting and pasting back and forth between Windows and KDE when you were actually just cutting and pasting in only Windows or only in KDE. That happens to people all the time. Harold Ajay Simha wrote: >Hi all, > >I installed cygwin last night: > >$ uname -a >CYGWIN_NT-5.0 ASIMHA-W2K 1.3.18(0.69/3/2) 2002-12-25 15:37 i686 unknown > >I also installed kde2. Everything was great until I restarted my pc for something. > >Now all of a sudden my cut & paste from window apps don't work and also my middle mouse does >not paste like it did last night. > >Any ideas where I should start looking? > >Thanks in advance. > >-ajay > > From spetreolle@yahoo.fr Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (Sylvain Petreolle) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Window Maker received signal 11 References: Message-ID: <20030109235634.61892.qmail@web10107.mail.yahoo.com> ... Perhaps you forgot to attach the file ? --- "Knodle, Patrick" a ????crit : > I just installed the latest version of XFree86 and made 2 changes to > the startxwin.bat file to access our servers. When I open this file > I get the message: > > Fatal error > > Window maker received signal 11. > > This fatal error occurred probably due to a bug. Please fill the > included BUGFORM and report it to bugs@windowmaker.org. > > > Do you know of a fix to this? ===== Sylvain Petreolle spetreolle@users.sourceforge.net Fight against Spam ! http://www.euro.cauce.org/en/index.html ICQ #170597259 "Don't think you are. Know you are." Morpheus, in "Matrix". ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran????ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From drasey@cox.net Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: drasey@cox.net (Dennis Rasey) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Lockup Starting X Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20030104152223.00b2e0b8@pop.west.cox.net> Hi Folks, I just installed all the latest files from from Cygwin, including Xfree, just last night. When I try to start X (using /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh), I see the X window open up, I can see a terminal window open up, but then my entire PC freezes up hard! I've tried this a couple of times (last time with no other apps running except the normal startup stuff), and it still locks the PC hard each time (needing a reset/reboot to recover). No errors visible, and I'm not sure if there is a log file regarding this (or where). I looked through this list, Google & Dejanews, but didn't see anyone else having a similar problem! Does anyone have any ideas where I can look, or what's next in trouble-shooting this? PC is a WinXP (sp1 + all patches), 768mb RAM, about 30g free on the drive that Cygwin runs from (and about 13g free on my boot drive). nVidia TNT card (the old, 16mb original). Thanks, Dennis From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: -display patch for xwinclip References: <3E1C54D7.4010307@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: <3E1C583F.5040206@msu.edu> Jeremy, Excellent work! We need more people like you that just dive in and write a feature when they want it, even if they have some hurdles to jump, such as learning how to program in C and use diff. I think you did a spectacular job. I will commit the patch and release a new version of xwinclip when I get a chance. Harold Jeremy Wilkins wrote: > Hi, > > Attached is a patch which adds support for the -display and --display > command line parameters to xwinclip. > > Its my first attempt at C coding so I've got no idea if its good coding > practice, it runs fine on my machine. It emits a warning when compiling > about how I've declared a character array, not sure how to fix this, any > suggestions?? > > Its diffed against xwinclip-20021229-2344.tar.bz2, not sure if its the > correct diff format - never used that before either. > > comments? > > jeremy > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > --- xwinclip.c 2002-12-30 04:39:36.000000000 +0000 > +++ xwinclip.new.c 2003-01-08 16:22:44.000000000 +0000 > @@ -159,6 +159,23 @@ > Bool fReturn; > int iRetries; > Bool fUnicodeSupport; > + char *displayAddress; > + int iLoop = 1; > + > + /* Sets X server if -display or --display is present */ > + displayAddress = NULL; > + while (iLoop < (argc - 1)) > + { > + if ((!strcmp(argv[iLoop], "-display")) || (!strcmp(argv[iLoop],"--display"))) > + { > + displayAddress = argv[iLoop + 1] ; > + iLoop = argc ; > + } > + else > + { > + iLoop++ ; > + } > + } > > /* Set jump point for IO Error exits */ > iReturn = setjmp (g_jmpEntry); > @@ -208,7 +225,7 @@ > /* Open the X display */ > do > { > - pDisplay = XOpenDisplay (NULL); > + pDisplay = XOpenDisplay(displayAddress); > if (pDisplay == NULL) > { > printf ("Could not open display, try: %d, sleeping: %d\n", From nickc@scopic.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: nickc@scopic.com (Nick Crabtree) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Patch for multiple monitors Message-ID: <000d01c2b8c4$aeb259e0$340000c0@HESTIA> Hi, I attach a patch for multiple monitors, diffed against xwin-20021107-0015. I have added a command-line flag -multiplemonitors which activates the extra code. This works on my machine in both windowed and rootless modes for engines 1, 2 and 4. It does not work in fullscreen mode because the defaults for the fullscreen dimensions are calculated before the command line parameters are parsed (as far as I could figure out). It should be possible to make this behaviour the default (SM_CXSCREEN == SM_CXVIRTUALSCREEN etc. if there is only one monitor), which would remove many of the if {} else {} blocks, and also might make fullscreen mode work My machine is running Windows 2000. Both my graphics cards are set at 1600x1200 32bit colour. It's great - I'm running KDE in rootless mode, and I get the kicker across the bottom of both monitors, and I can drag X windows from one monitor to the other ... Comments? Nick diff -uw ./InitOutput.c ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/InitOutput.c --- ./InitOutput.c 2002-11-07 05:21:18.000000000 +0000 +++ ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/InitOutput.c 2003-01-09 16:51:10.000000000 +0000 @@ -114,7 +114,8 @@ /* Zero the memory used for storing the screen info */ ZeroMemory (g_ScreenInfo, MAXSCREENS * sizeof (winScreenInfo)); - /* Get default width and height */ + /* Get default width and height. These will just be for the primary + monitor in the case that we have multiple monitors. */ dwWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXSCREEN); dwHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYSCREEN); @@ -139,6 +140,7 @@ g_ScreenInfo[i].fFullScreen = FALSE; g_ScreenInfo[i].fDecoration = TRUE; g_ScreenInfo[i].fRootless = FALSE; + g_ScreenInfo[i].fMultiplemonitors = FALSE; g_ScreenInfo[i].fLessPointer = FALSE; g_ScreenInfo[i].fScrollbars = FALSE; g_ScreenInfo[i].iE3BTimeout = WIN_E3B_OFF; @@ -303,6 +305,10 @@ ErrorF ("-rootless\n" "\tEXPERIMENTAL: Run the server in pseudo-rootless mode.\n"); + ErrorF ("-multiplemonitors\n" + "\tEXPERIMENTAL: Use the entire virtual screen if multiple\n" + "\tmonitors are present.\n"); + ErrorF ("-scrollbars\n" "\tIn windowed mode, allow screens bigger than the Windows desktop.\n" "\tMoreover, if the window has decorations, one can now resize\n" @@ -653,6 +659,32 @@ } /* + * Look for the '-multiplemonitors' argument + */ + if (strcmp (argv[i], "-multiplemonitors") == 0) + { + /* Is this parameter attached to a screen or is it global? */ + if (-1 == g_iLastScreen) + { + int j; + + /* Parameter is for all screens */ + for (j = 0; j < MAXSCREENS; j++) + { + g_ScreenInfo[j].fMultiplemonitors = TRUE; + } + } + else + { + /* Parameter is for a single screen */ + g_ScreenInfo[g_iLastScreen].fMultiplemonitors = TRUE; + } + + /* Indicate that we have processed this argument */ + return 1; + } + + /* * Look for the '-scrollbars' argument */ if (strcmp (argv[i], "-scrollbars") == 0) diff -uw ./win.h ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/win.h --- ./win.h 2002-11-07 05:33:17.000000000 +0000 +++ ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/win.h 2003-01-09 16:51:38.000000000 +0000 @@ -390,6 +390,7 @@ Bool fFullScreen; Bool fDecoration; Bool fRootless; + Bool fMultiplemonitors; Bool fLessPointer; Bool fScrollbars; int iE3BTimeout; diff -uw ./wincreatewnd.c ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/wincreatewnd.c --- ./wincreatewnd.c 2002-10-19 04:56:52.000000000 +0100 +++ ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/wincreatewnd.c 2003-01-10 15:11:26.000000000 +0000 @@ -31,16 +31,17 @@ #include "win.h" #include "shellapi.h" /* * Local function prototypes */ static Bool +winGetWorkArea (RECT *prcWorkArea, winScreenInfo *pScreenInfo); +static Bool winAdjustForAutoHide (RECT *prcWorkArea); - /* * Create a full screen window */ @@ -155,7 +156,7 @@ RegisterClass (&wc); /* Get size of work area */ - SystemParametersInfo (SPI_GETWORKAREA, 0, &rcWorkArea, 0); + winGetWorkArea (&rcWorkArea, pScreenInfo); /* Adjust for auto-hide taskbars */ winAdjustForAutoHide (&rcWorkArea); @@ -206,10 +207,18 @@ * In this case we have to ignore the requested width and height * and instead use the largest possible window that we can. */ + if (pScreenInfo->fMultiplemonitors) + { + iWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXVIRTUALSCREEN); + iHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYVIRTUALSCREEN); + } + else + { iWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXSCREEN); iHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYSCREEN); } } + } else { /* By default, we are creating a window that is as large as possible */ @@ -217,6 +226,12 @@ ErrorF ("winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User did not give " "height and width\n"); #endif + /* Defaults are wrong if we have multiple monitors */ + if (pScreenInfo->fMultiplemonitors) + { + iWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXVIRTUALSCREEN); + iHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYVIRTUALSCREEN); + } } /* Clean up the scrollbars flag, if necessary */ @@ -368,6 +383,59 @@ /* + * Find the work area of all attached monitors + */ +static Bool +winGetWorkArea (RECT *prcWorkArea, winScreenInfo *pScreenInfo) +{ + /* SPI_GETWORKAREA only gets the work area of the primary screen. */ + SystemParametersInfo (SPI_GETWORKAREA, 0, prcWorkArea, 0); + if (pScreenInfo->fMultiplemonitors) + { + int iPrimaryWidth, iPrimaryHeight, iWidth, iHeight; + int iLeft, iTop, iPrimaryNonWorkAreaWidth, iPrimaryNonWorkAreaHeight; + + ErrorF ("winGetWorkArea - Original WorkArea: %d %d %d %d\n", + prcWorkArea->top, prcWorkArea->left, + prcWorkArea->bottom, prcWorkArea->right); + /* Get info on full virtual screen */ + iWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXVIRTUALSCREEN); + iHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYVIRTUALSCREEN); + ErrorF("winGetWorkArea - Virtual screen is %d x %d\n", iWidth, iHeight); + iLeft = GetSystemMetrics (SM_XVIRTUALSCREEN); + iTop = GetSystemMetrics (SM_YVIRTUALSCREEN); + ErrorF("winGetWorkArea - Virtual screen origin is %d, %d\n", iLeft, iTop); + + /* Get info on primary screen */ + iPrimaryWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXSCREEN); + iPrimaryHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYSCREEN); + ErrorF("winGetWorkArea - Primary screen is %d x %d\n", iPrimaryWidth, iPrimaryHeight); + + /* Work out how much of the primary screen we aren't using */ + iPrimaryNonWorkAreaWidth = iPrimaryWidth - (prcWorkArea->right - prcWorkArea->left); + iPrimaryNonWorkAreaHeight = iPrimaryHeight - (prcWorkArea->bottom - prcWorkArea->top); + + /* Update the rectangle to include all monitors */ + if (iLeft < 0) + { + prcWorkArea->left = iLeft; + } + if (iTop < 0) + { + prcWorkArea->top = iTop; + } + prcWorkArea->right = prcWorkArea->left + iWidth - iPrimaryNonWorkAreaWidth; + prcWorkArea->bottom = prcWorkArea->top + iHeight - iPrimaryNonWorkAreaHeight; + + ErrorF ("winGetWorkArea - Adjusted WorkArea for multiple monitors: %d %d %d %d\n", + prcWorkArea->top, prcWorkArea->left, + prcWorkArea->bottom, prcWorkArea->right); + } + return TRUE; +} + + +/* * Adjust the client area so that any auto-hide toolbars * will work correctly. */ diff -uw ./winscrinit.c ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winscrinit.c --- ./winscrinit.c 2002-11-07 05:21:18.000000000 +0000 +++ ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winscrinit.c 2003-01-10 09:27:45.000000000 +0000 @@ -113,6 +113,16 @@ #endif } + /* Check all monitors have the same display depth if we are using + multiple monitors */ + if (pScreenInfo->fMultiplemonitors + && ! GetSystemMetrics (SM_SAMEDISPLAYFORMAT)) + { + ErrorF ("Monitors do not all have same pixel format / display depth.\n" + "Using primary display only.\n"); + pScreenInfo->fMultiplemonitors = FALSE; + } + /* Create display window */ if (!(*pScreenPriv->pwinCreateBoundingWindow) (pScreen)) { @@ -123,8 +133,28 @@ /* Store the initial height, width, and depth of the display */ hdc = GetDC (pScreenPriv->hwndScreen); + /* Are we using multiple monitors? */ + if (pScreenInfo->fMultiplemonitors) + { + pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXVIRTUALSCREEN); + pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYVIRTUALSCREEN); + /* In this case, some of the defaults set in + winInitializeDefaultScreens() are not correct ... */ + if (!pScreenInfo->fUserGaveHeightAndWidth) + { + pScreenInfo->dwWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXVIRTUALSCREEN); + pScreenInfo->dwHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYVIRTUALSCREEN); + pScreenInfo->dwWidth_mm = (pScreenInfo->dwWidth / WIN_DEFAULT_DPI) + * 25.4; + pScreenInfo->dwHeight_mm = (pScreenInfo->dwHeight / WIN_DEFAULT_DPI) + * 25.4; + } + } + else + { pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXSCREEN); pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYSCREEN); + } pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsBitsPixel = GetDeviceCaps (hdc, BITSPIXEL); ReleaseDC (pScreenPriv->hwndScreen, hdc); diff -uw ./winshaddd.c ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winshaddd.c --- ./winshaddd.c 2002-10-19 04:56:53.000000000 +0100 +++ ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winshaddd.c 2003-01-10 09:48:28.000000000 +0000 @@ -230,6 +230,7 @@ { DDSURFACEDESC ddsdCurrent; DWORD dwRefreshRateCurrent = 0; + DWORD dwWidth, dwHeight; HDC hdc = NULL; /* Set the cooperative level to full screen */ @@ -289,8 +290,18 @@ } /* Only change the video mode when different than current mode */ - if (pScreenInfo->dwWidth != GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXSCREEN) - || pScreenInfo->dwHeight != GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYSCREEN) + if (pScreenInfo->fMultiplemonitors) + { + dwWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXVIRTUALSCREEN); + dwHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYVIRTUALSCREEN); + } + else + { + dwWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXSCREEN); + dwHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYSCREEN); + } + if (pScreenInfo->dwWidth != dwWidth + || pScreenInfo->dwHeight != dwHeight || pScreenInfo->dwBPP != GetDeviceCaps (hdc, BITSPIXEL) || pScreenInfo->dwRefreshRate != 0) { diff -uw ./winshadddnl.c ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winshadddnl.c --- ./winshadddnl.c 2002-10-19 04:56:53.000000000 +0100 +++ ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winshadddnl.c 2003-01-10 09:51:55.000000000 +0000 @@ -248,6 +248,7 @@ { DDSURFACEDESC2 ddsdCurrent; DWORD dwRefreshRateCurrent = 0; + DWORD dwWidth, dwHeight; HDC hdc = NULL; /* Set the cooperative level to full screen */ @@ -307,8 +308,18 @@ } /* Only change the video mode when different than current mode */ - if (pScreenInfo->dwWidth != GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXSCREEN) - || pScreenInfo->dwHeight != GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYSCREEN) + if (pScreenInfo->fMultiplemonitors) + { + dwWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXVIRTUALSCREEN); + dwHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYVIRTUALSCREEN); + } + else + { + dwWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXSCREEN); + dwHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYSCREEN); + } + if (pScreenInfo->dwWidth != dwWidth + || pScreenInfo->dwHeight != dwHeight || pScreenInfo->dwBPP != GetDeviceCaps (hdc, BITSPIXEL) || pScreenInfo->dwRefreshRate != 0) { diff -uw ./winwndproc.c ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winwndproc.c --- ./winwndproc.c 2002-10-19 04:56:53.000000000 +0100 +++ ../../x-devel/build/opt/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winwndproc.c 2003-01-10 09:45:48.000000000 +0000 @@ -137,8 +137,20 @@ * We do this here for future compatibility in case we * ever allow switching from fullscreen to windowed mode. */ - s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXSCREEN); - s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYSCREEN); + if (s_pScreenInfo->fMultiplemonitors) + { + s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsWidth + = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXVIRTUALSCREEN); + s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsHeight + = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYVIRTUALSCREEN); + } + else + { + s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsWidth + = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXSCREEN); + s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsHeight + = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYSCREEN); + } s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsBitsPixel = GetDeviceCaps (s_pScreenPriv->hdcScreen, BITSPIXEL); break; @@ -280,8 +292,18 @@ } /* Store the new display dimensions and depth */ + if (s_pScreenInfo->fMultiplemonitors) + { + s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsWidth + = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXVIRTUALSCREEN); + s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsHeight + = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYVIRTUALSCREEN); + } + else + { s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsWidth = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CXSCREEN); s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsHeight = GetSystemMetrics (SM_CYSCREEN); + } s_pScreenPriv->dwLastWindowsBitsPixel = GetDeviceCaps (s_pScreenPriv->hdcScreen, BITSPIXEL); break; From staf.verhaegen@imec.be Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: staf.verhaegen@imec.be (Staf Verhaegen) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: 8 bit fullscreen still problematic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E1D2B90.9050700@imec.be> Thomas Chadwick wrote: > Have you tried dropping the Windows Desktop down to 256 colors and > running XWin WITHOUT the -engine or -fullscreen flags? When all else > fails, this usually works (but of couse has the undesireable effect of > making your Windows programs look ugly). I know this workaround but it is unacceptable for rolling out Cygwin/XFree86 in our company. greets, Staf. -- +----------------------------------------+-----------------------------+ |Staf Verhaegen (staf.verhaegen@imec.be) |ADRESS: IMEC vzw. - ASP/LITHO| |tel: 016/ 281 783 | Kapeldreef 75 | |fax: 016/ 281 214 | 3001 Leuven (Belgium)| +----------------------------------------+-----------------------------+ For every tool there are at least 2 uses: the one it was designed for and the other for which it wasn't. From McEligotS@MTMC.ARMY.MIL Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: McEligotS@MTMC.ARMY.MIL (McEligot, Sean (contractor)) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: .bat from xterm opens cmd.exe window Message-ID: <6318D0028701D3119DB30000D11BB1A902B08461@hq10.army.mil> >To the original poster: since there is no way to propagate tty information >through a cmd.exe session, I suppose the best solution would still be the >one Alexander proposed, i.e., live with it. Why would one want to call a >batch file from an xterm, anyway? Some programs use batch files on windows. In my case, an ant build script to pops up a window when weblogic rmic is called. Another user had similar issues with Jam in Sept. 2001. If I don't use cmd.exe, I won't see errors. We also use batch files internally so developers can use either cygwin or cmd.exe depending on their own personal preference. This used to work, and still works for developers who don't upgrade as often as I do. Something changed. I can always use cmd.exe, but I prefer to work in xterm. Sept 2001: strange behavior regarding new cygwin 1.3.3 and cmd.exe http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2001-09/msg01697.html From rrschulz@cris.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: rrschulz@cris.com (Randall R Schulz) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: xwindow to the foreground In-Reply-To: <200301041251.h04Cp0O09173@buckpalace.concentric.net> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030104075954.01e831c8@pop3.cris.com> Kumarchi, Probably. Window activation / deactivation and raising / lowering are functions of the window manager. Without knowing which one you're running, it won't be possible to give you specific information on how to enable the option you want. Or you could do something like read the documentation or explore and experiment... (No gurus required!) Randall Schulz At 04:50 2003-01-04, kumarchi@attbi.com wrote: >When I have multiple windows open, I had to click on the title bar on a >window >to bring it to the foreground. Is there way I can change this behavior so >that >whenever I click on a window it automaticlly brings it to the foreground? > >Thanx From yadin@pitt.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: yadin@pitt.edu (Yadin Y Goldschmidt) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless Mode References: <8C6B052884783549B5D30C166853A5140175D239@usilms21.ca.com> <3E1E0FAD.1020404@msu.edu> Message-ID: BTW, you have to add to the top of startxwin.bat the line set HOME=XXX where XXX is your home directory, otherwise wmaker is trying to use the variable HOME from windows environment c:\Documents and settings\... which does not work. "Yadin Y Goldschmidt" wrote in message news: avl7kv$tup$1@main.gmane.org ... > I have Window Maker working fine with the recent built. (including rootless) > I don't know what stephen is refering to. > Yadin. > "Harold L Hunt II" wrote in message > news: 3E1E0FAD.1020404@msu.edu ... > > Stephen, > > > > Kensuke Matsuzaki is working on the Windows-based window manager. > > > > If Window Maker is broke, then someone else is gonna have to fix it. I > > released a few packages with the intention that others would take them > > over, but no one has. So, if Window Maker is broke, then I will have to > > pull the package from distribution. > > > > Any takers? > > > > Harold > > > > Bovy, Stephen wrote: > > > > >I have tried the server test series with "rootless" mode. > > > > > >I find it very usefull. Here is my dumb opinion. > > > > > >We need a Native Microsft-Cygwin "Window Manager" designed to work in > > >"rootless mode". > > > > > >Also FYI. The "Window Maker" "port" isnt working with the most recent > > >"builds" > > >Of the cygwin libraries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From gsw@agere.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: gsw@agere.com (Gerald S. Williams) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Window Maker received signal 11 References: Message-ID: Patrick Knodle wrote: > I just installed the latest version of XFree86 and made 2 changes to the > startxwin.bat file to access our servers. When I open this file I get > the message: I think I saw this when I was using text-mounted file systems. Switching to binary mounts corrected it for me. I'm pretty sure this is in a FAQ someplace. Or you can always search/google the archives. -Jerry From STEPHEN.Bovy@ca.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: STEPHEN.Bovy@ca.com (Bovy, Stephen) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Rootless Mode Message-ID: <8C6B052884783549B5D30C166853A5140175D239@usilms21.ca.com> I have tried the server test series with "rootless" mode. I find it very usefull. Here is my dumb opinion. We need a Native Microsft-Cygwin "Window Manager" designed to work in "rootless mode". Also FYI. The "Window Maker" "port" isnt working with the most recent "builds" Of the cygwin libraries. From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Cross Compiling host.def Message-ID: I just updated the Contributor's Guide yesterday and I meant to check if we still needed a host.def file. I seem to have messed up somewhere and left with the impression that we did not need a host.def file anymore... but it seems that I didn't actually delete the host.def file and now I don't know if we need it or not. So, as a sanity check, I want to ask if other cross compilers out there are using a host.def file. I am, of course, going to do another build test before I update the documentation again. For now, here are the contents of the host.def file that I may have used: /* * Cygwin/XFree86 - host.def file, to be placed in xc/config/cf/host.def * when cross compiling XFree86 for Cygwin. * * Sample build command for cross compilation: * make CROSSCOMPILEDIR="/cygwin/bin" World > World.log 2>&1 * * Harold Hunt - 2003/01/01 */ /* * Point to our Cygwin headers that we copied over. */ #define PreIncDir #define StdIncDir /cygwin/i686-pc-cygwin/include #define ExtraIncDir /cygwin/i686-pc-cygwin/include/w32api /* Harold */ :) From fdiaz@landata.payma.es Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: fdiaz@landata.payma.es (FELIX DIAZ DE RADA QUINTANA) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: xkbmap option not working with XDMCP Message-ID: Hi all: I have tried to run XWin in XDMCP mode using the -query option. Due to I don't have a US keyboard, I compiled the spanish map using the xkbcomp utility and then I left the resulting file (es.xkm) at the /tmp directory. But when I run XWin using "+kb -xkbmap es" options, the server doesn't read this map file (error opening.. reverting to defaults...), and even, the file disappears in the /tmp directory. It seems that XWin deletes the es.xkm file! If somebody knows what I am doing wrong, please help me. Thanks in advance, Felix D????az de Rada From keith@keithtyler.com Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: keith@keithtyler.com (Keith D. Tyler) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: how to change the background of xterm? In-Reply-To: from "Mingdong Huang" at Jan 03, 2003 05:31:53 PM Message-ID: <200301032251.h03MpFY10828@shell.faradic.net> Mingdong Huang was recently quoted as saying... > > The default background of xterm is white. I tried to change it to black by > editing /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm-color file, but did not work. > > Any hints? > > Ming > > Add this to your .xdefaults file: XTerm*background: black XTerm*foreground: white Kdt From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Default OS Versions Message-ID: Alan, I doubt that this was the intended effect of using the default OS versions: ============== make[1]: Entering directory `/home/harold/x-devel/build/std' Building on Cygwin (DefaultOSMajorVersion.DefaultOSMinorVersion.DefaultOSTeenyVersion). GCC version: 2.95 ============== Any ideas? Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: xwinclip-Test07 does not work with XWin -query In-Reply-To: <20030105134912.GA15421@sanori.net> Message-ID: Sanori, Let me tell you, I wrote xwinclip and I still don't fully understand how to make it work well when using -query. I can tell you that running xhost on your Windows machine won't help anything. What you need to do is run xhost in a terminal that is running within your -query session. That should setup XWin.exe on your machine to accept connections from local clients. The reason you can run xhost on your Windows machine is that not even xhost has permission to connect to XWin.exe at that point, so xhost cannot modify the access control list. I hope that helps, let us know if it does. Harold -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Joo-won Jung Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 8:49 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: xwinclip-Test07 does not work with XWin -query Hello list, Thank you, the developers and users of XFree86-cygwin. Most of the cases XFree86-cygwin works fine on my computer. But, I want to tell a problem that I have got in stuck. I'm using Windows XP. I succeeded copy&paste text between Windows and X window using xwinclip. But I failed copy&paste when I start X with -query option. The error messages of xwinclip is as follows: UnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP Could not open display, try: 1, sleeping: 4 Could not open display, try: 2, sleeping: 4 Could not open display, try: 3, sleeping: 4 Failed opening the display, giving up I added my host to X control list, using "xhost" and tried "xwinclip -display :0" but it gives same error message. Since "xclipboard -display :0" worked, I bet I did not wrong in X control list. I don't know how the xwinclip.exe works. Please give me some information or pointers about this problem. -Sanori From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 1 00:00:00 2003 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt II) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:00:00 -0000 Subject: Multiwindow mode References: Message-ID: Kensuke, I just tried to make a release of XWin.exe with your patches incorporated. I got everything in place... the source code, the binary, the web page updates, etc. Then I noticed that my XWinrl.log was over 400 KB for only two minutes of running XWin.exe. I then tried to go back through your code and #if CYGDEBUG the ErrorF messages... but that got to be pointless because you may have updated the code since sending it in. Could you please go through the code and wrap each of the ErrorF messages with something like #if CYGMULTIWINDOW_DEBUG ? Then define CYGMULTIWINDOW_DEBUG in win.h to be YES, or NO, just like the other flags that we use (like CYGDEBUG). Then you can have the debug messages for multiwindow mode print out, and I can easily disable all of them (except the really important ones) when I try to make a test release. Thanks in advance, Harold -----Original Message----- From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Kensuke Matsuzaki Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:33 AM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Multiwindow mode Hi, This patch solve a problem another way. X Server move/resize window. instead of window manager. Perhaps this patch is smarter than a previous patch. Kensuke Matsuzaki