From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Apr 1 04:25:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 04:25:00 -0000 Subject: FW: Problems starting XFree86 => Problem Solved Message-ID: Naveen forgot to cc the list. -----Original Message----- From: Naveen Kansara [mailto:nkansara@primus.com.au] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 2:44 AM To: Harold Hunt Subject: Re: Problems starting XFree86 => Problem Solved Thanks Harold. After readig the XWin.log from /tmp I found out that it was the 'classical' error 'Can't find default font 'fixed''. After a revisit to mail acrhives again, I realised that I had to remount cygwin root into binary mode(which was in text mode initially), then reinstall and wow it worked. I still can't start X from bash but works fine from dos(good enough for me :-). Great work guys. Keep up the good work. Many thanks to everyone associated in developing XFree86 and Cygwin. Naveen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Hunt" To: "Naveen Kansara" ; Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 5:22 AM Subject: RE: Problems starting XFree86 > First off, look in the log file: > > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-log-file-location > > Then, send in that log file to the mailing list if you can't figure out what > to do. > > I suspect that you may need to update DirectX, since it sounds like the > server is having a problem allocating memory for drawing the graphics. > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Naveen Kansara > > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 8:04 AM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: Problems starting XFree86 > > > > > > Hi > > > > I have recently installed XFree86 4.2 on my PC which has WIN 98 and cygwin > > version 2.194.2.21. I have read the mail archives and have tried all the > > available options but nothing seems to work. I am giving the results when > > startx is envoked under bash or startxwin under dos. Both startx and > > startxwin.bat are as supplied by the installation(which was troublefree). > > > > The output when running startxwin.bat from dos command prompt > > >>startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows 95/98/Me > > X connection to 127.0.0.1:0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown) > > > > The output when running startx from bash prompt > > >>startx > > waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . > > .. > > giving up. > > xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server > > xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. > > > > $ XWin -query 127.0.0.1:0.0 > > opens up the Cygwin/XFree86 window but closes it after a few secs without > > any error messages. Trying to run Xwin -query to a remote host (which is a > > Solaris machine) has the same effect. > > > > Trying xterm on it's own gives the can't open display error. > > $ xterm > > xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1 > > > > > > In both instances the Cygwin/XFree86 window opens but is completely > > blank(white background), remains for few seconds and then closes. However > > running XWin has the same response but no error message is printed. > > > > I have a PPP and a Realtek RTL8029(AS) Ethernet adapter. > > Below is the output of ipconfig /all > > > > Windows 98 IP Configuration > > > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . : NKANSARA > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 203.134.24.70 > > 203.134.26.70 > > Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast > > NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . : > > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No > > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No > > NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No > > > > 0 Ethernet adapter : > > > > Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter. > > Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00 > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes > > IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 210.50.202.191 > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > > Default Gateway . . . . . . : 210.50.202.191 > > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 > > Primary WINS Server . . . . : > > Secondary WINS Server . . . : > > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 01 01 80 12:00:00 > > Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 01 01 80 12:00:00 > > > > 1 Ethernet adapter : > > Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8029(AS) Ethernet Adapt > > Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-4F-49-00-73-37 > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes > > IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 169.254.14.92 > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 > > Default Gateway . . . . . . : > > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 > > Primary WINS Server . . . . : > > Secondary WINS Server . . . : > > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 03 30 02 10:50:46 > > Lease Expires . . . . . . . : > > > > Below is the output of netstat -a > > $ netstat -a > > > > Active Connections > > > > Proto Local Address Foreign Address State > > TCP nkansara:1088 NKANSARA:0 LISTENING > > TCP nkansara:137 NKANSARA:0 LISTENING > > TCP nkansara:138 NKANSARA:0 LISTENING > > TCP nkansara:nbsession NKANSARA:0 LISTENING > > TCP nkansara:137 NKANSARA:0 LISTENING > > TCP nkansara:138 NKANSARA:0 LISTENING > > TCP nkansara:nbsession NKANSARA:0 LISTENING > > UDP nkansara:1088 *:* > > UDP nkansara:nbname *:* > > UDP nkansara:nbdatagram *:* > > UDP nkansara:nbname *:* > > UDP nkansara:nbdatagram *:* > > > > Though the ping works well on 127.0.0.1 > > $ ping 127.0.0.1 > > > > Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data: > > > > Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128 > > Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128 > > Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128 > > Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128 > > > > Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1: > > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), > > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: > > Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 0ms > > > > Some of the solutions tried by me are: > > 1)setting the ecvironment valiable OS and DISPLAY > > 2)trying various sets of ip address such as 0.0.0.0 > > > > It seems to me that either it cannot connect to 127.0.0.1 or the > > connection > > can't be maintained. Any suggestions/pointers/references would be highly > > appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > > > Naveen > > > > > From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com Mon Apr 1 07:29:00 2002 From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (James Tetazoo) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 07:29:00 -0000 Subject: Thought on /tmp/XWin.log Message-ID: Just out of curiosity, why was XWin.exe changed to write output to /tmp/XWin.log? I liked the previous behavior of sending it to STDOUT. Seems to me this was more flexible since I could see the output in real time, redirect to a file ("> /tmp/XWin.log"), or both ("| tee /tmp/XWin.log"). I also just ran an experiment running 2 instances of XWin with "-screen 0 x y" and "-screen 1 x y" arguments. The log file from the first instance get overwritten by the log file from the second. If you don't want to go back to STDOUT, perhaps you could add the screen number somewhere in the logfile name to fix the overwriting problem (e.g. "/tmp/XWin.0.log", "/tmp/XWin.1.log", etc.)? _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Apr 1 10:46:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 10:46:00 -0000 Subject: Thought on /tmp/XWin.log In-Reply-To: Message-ID: James, The discussion of why we went to /tmp/XWin.log is in the mailing list archives. The reason was primarily that we wanted to make XWin.exe a GUI application instead of a command-line application... this is necessary to quiet the thousands of questions of "why does XWin.exe open a command prompt window when I run it?". There are difficulties in improving the log file system as we don't know what screen numbers will be used when we create the log file. We could send initial messages to XWin.log, then redirect each screen to XWin-screenXX.log, but can you imagine having to tell users "Okay, if you have a problem that occurs early in XWin.exe initialization then you need to look at XWin.log... otherwise you need to look at XWin-screenXX.log where XX is the screen that had the problem." Yeah right, we have people that think that a sentence that reads "don't use Winzip" means that they should use Winzip. Hope that clears things up, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of James Tetazoo > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:30 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Thought on /tmp/XWin.log > > > Just out of curiosity, why was XWin.exe changed to write output to > /tmp/XWin.log? I liked the previous behavior of sending it to STDOUT. > Seems to me this was more flexible since I could see the output in real > time, redirect to a file ("> /tmp/XWin.log"), or both ("| tee > /tmp/XWin.log"). > > I also just ran an experiment running 2 instances of XWin with > "-screen 0 x > y" and "-screen 1 x y" arguments. The log file from the first > instance get > overwritten by the log file from the second. > > If you don't want to go back to STDOUT, perhaps you could add the screen > number somewhere in the logfile name to fix the overwriting problem (e.g. > "/tmp/XWin.0.log", "/tmp/XWin.1.log", etc.)? > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > From rasjidw@bigpond.com Tue Apr 2 04:40:00 2002 From: rasjidw@bigpond.com (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 04:40:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin-XFree86 package? Message-ID: <200204021240.WAA26549@cts01.webone.com.au> Just curious as to how the progress is going on the setup.exe packaging? I haven't seen any updates for a couple of weeks... Rasjid. From tim@lesher.ws Tue Apr 2 08:06:00 2002 From: tim@lesher.ws (Tim Lesher) Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 08:06:00 -0000 Subject: Status of "seamless" integration? Message-ID: <20020402154033.GD19156@pit.lesher.ws> Is anyone working on the "seamless" integrated server mentioned on the TODO list? This feature is probably the one keeping me from using XFree instead of commercial alternatives like XWin32. -- Tim Lesher http://www.lesher.ws For more information on the WinDev mailing list, see the WinDev archive pages at http://arc.windev.org From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 2 10:16:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 10:16:00 -0000 Subject: Status of "seamless" integration? In-Reply-To: <20020402154033.GD19156@pit.lesher.ws> Message-ID: Tim, No one is working on it. In fact, no one has been working on much of anything related to Cygwin/XFree86 lately. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Tim Lesher > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:41 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Status of "seamless" integration? > > > Is anyone working on the "seamless" integrated server mentioned on the > TODO list? This feature is probably the one keeping me from using > XFree instead of commercial alternatives like XWin32. > > -- > Tim Lesher > http://www.lesher.ws > For more information on the WinDev mailing list, > see the WinDev archive pages at http://arc.windev.org From ulrich.diez@student.uni-tuebingen.de Tue Apr 2 14:19:00 2002 From: ulrich.diez@student.uni-tuebingen.de (Ulrich Diez) Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 14:19:00 -0000 Subject: correct place for xmodmap / how to automize keyboard-layout-setting for Xfree86 ? Message-ID: <002301c1da95$d47e16e0$01e30286@oemcomputer> Hello ! I installed Cygwin and Xfree86 these days on my computer. Actually I have no experience with them. I wanted to make the X-Window-System accepting german keyboard-layout, therefore I downloaded a german Xmodmap-file. When I use the command "xmodmap /path-to-modmap-file/xmodmad.de" in bash or xterm, I have the german keyboard-settings. But when I try to automize the Xmodmap-procedure for startup, I mess up as I actually do not know all to much about the corresponding mechanisms. So I tried to do everything as said in the FAQ (see below). Neither did I find the mentioned file "/etc/X11/xdm/XSetup" nor a similar one. There was no "XSetup"-file on my Computer at all. I created one and put it into the mentioned directory but that didn't help. (Somebody already told me that under UNIX-systems upper- and lower-case-spelling is important.) Any hints will be greafully accepted. Yours sincerely Ulrich ________________________________________________________________________ 4.5. How do I get my non-U.S. keyboard modmap to be installed when using xdmcp? This answer assumes that your non-U.S. keyboard modmap is located in /etc/X11 and is called xmodmap.country_code, where country_code is your two-letter standardized country code (e.g. Australia = au, Deutschland = de, France = fr, Japan = jp, United Kingdom = uk). First, you must create a script that tells xmodmap to load the modmap for your non-U.S. keyboard layout. One way to run xmodmap on X Server startup when using xdmcp is to add the following two lines to /etc/X11/xdm/XSetup: #!/bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap /etc/X11/xmodmap.country_code Now you must tell xdm to run the screen setup script on startup. In /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config, add the following line: DisplayManager*setup: /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup. From iburrell@stanfordalumni.org Tue Apr 2 14:45:00 2002 From: iburrell@stanfordalumni.org (Ian Burrell) Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 14:45:00 -0000 Subject: correct place for xmodmap / how to automize keyboard-layout-setting for Xfree86 ? In-Reply-To: <002301c1da95$d47e16e0$01e30286@oemcomputer>; from ulrich.diez@student.uni-tuebingen.de on Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 12:28:22AM +0200 References: <002301c1da95$d47e16e0$01e30286@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <20020402144344.A14314@stanfordalumni.org> On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 12:28:22AM +0200, Ulrich Diez wrote: > > I installed Cygwin and Xfree86 these days on my computer. Actually I have no > experience with them. > I wanted to make the X-Window-System accepting german keyboard-layout, > therefore I downloaded a german Xmodmap-file. > When I use the command "xmodmap /path-to-modmap-file/xmodmad.de" in bash or > xterm, I have the german keyboard-settings. > > But when I try to automize the Xmodmap-procedure for startup, I mess up as I > actually do not know all to much about the corresponding mechanisms. > So I tried to do everything as said in the FAQ (see below). Neither did I > find the mentioned file "/etc/X11/xdm/XSetup" nor a similar one. There was > no "XSetup"-file on my Computer at all. > I created one and put it into the mentioned directory but that didn't help. > (Somebody already told me that under UNIX-systems upper- and > lower-case-spelling is important.) > How are you starting XFree? XDMCP is used to create a session from another computer; xdm runs on the other computer. It isn't needed on the Cygwin computer. If you are starting the X server with startx, then the xmodmap file goes in ~/.Xmodmap. You can also put it in /etc/X11/Xmodmap to make it the global setting. The instructions in the FAQ regarding xdm are what to do on the remote machine. - Ian -- iburrell@stanfordalumni.org http://www.znark.com/ From iburrell@stanfordalumni.org Tue Apr 2 15:07:00 2002 From: iburrell@stanfordalumni.org (Ian Burrell) Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 15:07:00 -0000 Subject: Status of "seamless" integration? References: Message-ID: <3CAA394C.9020104@stanfordalumni.org> Harold Hunt wrote: > > No one is working on it. > > In fact, no one has been working on much of anything related to > Cygwin/XFree86 lately. > What would be needed to do it? How much work would it be? - Ian -- iburrell@stanfordalumni.org http://www.znark.com/ From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Apr 2 15:10:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 15:10:00 -0000 Subject: Status of "seamless" integration? In-Reply-To: <3CAA394C.9020104@stanfordalumni.org> References: <3CAA394C.9020104@stanfordalumni.org> Message-ID: <20020402231048.GK1115@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 03:05:48PM -0800, Ian Burrell wrote: > Harold Hunt wrote: > > > >No one is working on it. > > > >In fact, no one has been working on much of anything related to > >Cygwin/XFree86 lately. > > > > What would be needed to do it? How much work would it be? > A lot of work. I've done most of the re-writing of the span functions into their native GDI counterparts. That's a good start. We need to implement the rest of the server into native GDI calls, then we can start looking at 'rootless' modes. It's by no means a small task to do the conversion to native GDI first though. Alan. From iburrell@znark.com Tue Apr 2 16:41:00 2002 From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell) Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 16:41:00 -0000 Subject: Status of "seamless" integration? References: <3CAA394C.9020104@stanfordalumni.org> <20020402231048.GK1115@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <3CAA4FA7.1060504@znark.com> Alan Hourihane wrote: > > A lot of work. I've done most of the re-writing of the span > functions into their native GDI counterparts. That's a good start. > Where can I find the native GDI changes? Are they checked in? My impression is that mode isn't included into the server by default. What is needed to get it to compile. > We need to implement the rest of the server into native GDI calls, > then we can start looking at 'rootless' modes. It's by no means > a small task to do the conversion to native GDI first though. > I wonder why native GDI is required for rootless modes. There would need to be support for creating Win32 windows for each X window. Plus, drawing (or blitting) into those Win32 windows instead of one single window or full screen. An internal window manager would also be needed. - Ian From mbardiaux@peaktime.be Wed Apr 3 00:20:00 2002 From: mbardiaux@peaktime.be (Michel Bardiaux) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 00:20:00 -0000 Subject: Status of "seamless" integration? References: <3CAA394C.9020104@stanfordalumni.org> <20020402231048.GK1115@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <3CAA4FA7.1060504@znark.com> Message-ID: <3CAABB49.5D208B4C@peaktime.be> Ian Burrell wrote: > > Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > > A lot of work. I've done most of the re-writing of the span > > functions into their native GDI counterparts. That's a good start. > > > > Where can I find the native GDI changes? Are they checked in? My > impression is that mode isn't included into the server by default. What > is needed to get it to compile. > > > We need to implement the rest of the server into native GDI calls, > > then we can start looking at 'rootless' modes. It's by no means > > a small task to do the conversion to native GDI first though. > > > > I wonder why native GDI is required for rootless modes. There would need > to be support for creating Win32 windows for each X window. Plus, > drawing (or blitting) into those Win32 windows instead of one single > window or full screen. An internal window manager would also be needed. Aye, there's the rub. When the X application pops up a menu, it must grab the keyboard and the *whole* screen. In other words, a "system modal" window is required, which means one can't use an internal WM but must use MS-Windows as WM - while still being responsive to ICCM. > > - Ian -- Michel Bardiaux Peaktime Belgium S.A. Bd. du Souverain, 191 B-1160 Bruxelles Tel : +32 2 790.29.41 From steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com Wed Apr 3 03:03:00 2002 From: steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com (Steven O'Brien) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 03:03:00 -0000 Subject: gnome desktop on cygwin-xfree86 Message-ID: <000b01c1daff$34f6f500$0300a8c0@emerald> There has been some interest in porting gnome to cygwin on this list in the past. I have succeeded in getting (most of) the gnome 1.4 base libraries and desktop ported. I do not have sufficient web space to distribute binaries, but the source modifications I made are available as patches from: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.obrien2/ I did post this as new software on the cygwin home page, and it appeared for a few hours yesterday but now has been removed. Anyway, If anyone has the time to build gnome for cygwin using these patches then please have a go. The panel, control center, midnight commander file manager, and many applets are working. Steven From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 3 15:02:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 15:02:00 -0000 Subject: Michigan State University is using Cygwin/XFree86 in the Public Microcomputer Labs Message-ID: Imagine my surprise when I walked into a computer lab at Michigan State University today, logged in, and found Cygwin/XFree86 in the Start menu of my very own university (40,000+ students). I was utterly amazed. I haven't got a link for MSU that shows Cygwin/XFree86 is being used, but I am trying to reach the people responsible for choosing Cygwin/XFree86 to see if they can put up some sort of page saying that Cygwin/XFree86 is being used. More on this later, Harold From cgf@redhat.com Wed Apr 3 15:05:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 15:05:00 -0000 Subject: Michigan State University is using cygwin/xfree86 in the Public Microcomputer Labs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020403230508.GC16248@redhat.com> On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 06:02:34PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote: >Imagine my surprise when I walked into a computer lab at Michigan State >University today, logged in, and found Cygwin/XFree86 in the Start menu of >my very own university (40,000+ students). I was utterly amazed. I haven't >got a link for MSU that shows Cygwin/XFree86 is being used, but I am trying >to reach the people responsible for choosing Cygwin/XFree86 to see if they >can put up some sort of page saying that Cygwin/XFree86 is being used. > >More on this later, That's really cool. cgf From BillT@VideoTele.com Wed Apr 3 16:23:00 2002 From: BillT@VideoTele.com (Trost, Bill) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 16:23:00 -0000 Subject: XWarpCursor doesn't "stick" Message-ID: Hi, All, I just started trying out ("evaluating", if you'll pardon the phrase) XFree86 under Windows 2000, and have noticed a problem. I have a program (wily, you can download it here and there) that does a fair amount of pointer warps. I have noticed, however, that the pointer warps are really only for show -- as soon as you try to move the cursor with the mouse, the pointer immediately jumps back to where it was before the warp. Ugh! This happens in both fullscreen and in-a-Window mode. Thanks for any help, Bill From iburrell@stanfordalumni.org Wed Apr 3 17:14:00 2002 From: iburrell@stanfordalumni.org (Ian Burrell) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 17:14:00 -0000 Subject: Status of "seamless" integration? References: <3CAA394C.9020104@stanfordalumni.org> <20020402231048.GK1115@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <3CAA4FA7.1060504@znark.com> <3CAABB49.5D208B4C@peaktime.be> Message-ID: <3CABA8DA.30002@stanfordalumni.org> Michel Bardiaux wrote: > > Aye, there's the rub. When the X application pops up a menu, it must > grab the keyboard and the *whole* screen. In other words, a "system > modal" window is required, which means one can't use an internal WM but > must use MS-Windows as WM - while still being responsive to ICCM. > Does the menu need to be truly modal on the Windows side? The menu window has the focus so it will get keyboard events. It can be modal with respect to all the other X server-owned windows. It is harder to make it modal relative to Windows. Just to make sure we are using the same terms, what I mean by an internal window manager one running inside the X server. I am taking my cue from the eXcursion2 design document. Windows is generating the move, resize, etc events. The window manager hooks into the X server Windows event loop and handles window state events. The internal window manager should act as proper window manager which presumably means talking to the server. The other way I can see to handle a rootless X server is with a separate X client window manager. For each root-level X window, there is a corresponding Windows window. But without any frame at all. The window manager draws the frame and handles moving, resizing, and all that. The X server is responsible of moving the Windows window. Does any of this make sense? - Ian -- iburrell@stanfordalumni.org http://www.znark.com/ From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 3 17:43:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 17:43:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 54 Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 54 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test54.exe.bz2 (1077 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20020403-2033.tar.bz2 (69 KiB) Changes: 1) Attempt to make WarpCursor function correctly by adding function winWarpCursor. The new function calls SetCursorPos () with the x and y coordinates passed to winWarpCursor. Hopefully this works. Enjoy, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 3 17:44:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 17:44:00 -0000 Subject: XWarpCursor doesn't "stick" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Bill, I'd like you to try the new Test 54 server that I just put together and announced to the list. Please let me know if it fixes your problem. http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Trost, Bill > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:24 PM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: XWarpCursor doesn't "stick" > > > Hi, All, > > I just started trying out ("evaluating", if you'll pardon the phrase) > XFree86 under Windows 2000, and have noticed a problem. I have a program > (wily, you can download it here and there) that does a fair amount of > pointer warps. I have noticed, however, that the pointer warps are really > only for show -- as soon as you try to move the cursor with the mouse, the > pointer immediately jumps back to where it was before the warp. Ugh! > > This happens in both fullscreen and in-a-Window mode. > > Thanks for any help, > Bill From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 3 21:55:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 21:55:00 -0000 Subject: Unable to type letters in login to AIX box using XFree86 4.2.0 on W2K In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pavel, I finally got around to adding a FAQ entry regarding the X Keyboard Extension and AIX. I attributed the answer to you. http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-aix-xkb Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of > Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 1:33 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: Unable to type letters in login to AIX box using XFree86 > 4.2.0 on W2K > > > > Known problem. You have to use '-kb' parameter, keyboard extension doesn't > work with AIX. The keyboard is not "out of order" completely, but the > system behaves like AltGr key is permanently pressed. By the way this is > the reason I have to change my keyboard layout manually after every logon > to the system, what's really silly. > > To Harold: I think this should be included in FAQ (and fixed, if you have > an AIX machine to test it :-))) > > Pavel > > > > > > "Harold Hunt" > > To: "Moore, > Billiam" , > > Sent by: cc: > > cygwin-xfree-owner@ Subject: RE: > Unable to type letters in login to AIX box using XFree86 4.2.0 on > W2K > cygwin.com > > > > > > 06.02.2002 22:51 > > > > > > > > > > I've never seen this problem. Best of luck. > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Moore, Billiam > > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:29 PM > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > Subject: Unable to type letters in login to AIX box using XFree86 4.2.0 > > on W2K > > > > > > I have XFree86 installed on Windows 2000 SP 2 using all the defaults > (no > > mods to any config files for X) and can run local X programs (e.g. LyX) > > > > when I run > > > > XWin -screen 0 1024 768 -query 172.16.11.155 -from 172.16.46.120 > > > > to get a CDE session on an AIX box, I get the login screen but cannot > type > > in letters in the login name text box. > > > > - I can type in spaces and backspaces and the tab and enter > > buttons work so > > the keyboard is at least partially recognized. > > - The mouse is fully functional. > > - I can get to the AIX box through Hummingbirds Exceed so I am fairly > sure > > that is confgured correctly > > > > Everything I have found in the FAQs and web searches deals with > > not being > > able to connect at all or having the wrong key map. I am using > no key map > > which I understand means I am using the default US one which > > should be fine. > > Has anyone run into this before or can anyone point me in a direction to > > further trouble shoot? > > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 3 21:58:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 21:58:00 -0000 Subject: missing telnet, solution In-Reply-To: <002401c1d1c1$6c49e540$640aa8c0@topdog> Message-ID: Phil, I updated the User's Guide to say that most users will find the default package list sufficient, but that you want to make sure that openssh and inetutils are selected if you wish to use telnet or ssh. Hope that helps. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Phil Burk > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:49 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: missing telnet, solution > > > I followed all the steps to install Cygwin/XFree from the user guide. > Everything worked great until I got to the part about telnet. It > was missing > from my installation. I spent about two hours looking over the Cygwin site > trying to figure out how to get and install telnet. I noticed in > this forum > that other folks had the same problem but no working solution was offered. > > I finally figured it out. Here's how: > > - re-run the SETUP.EXE program that you used to install Cygwin, > > - select "Install from Internet" option, > > - select same install directory as before, > > - choose a download site as before, > > - when you get a list of packages, click the '+' next to the > "Net" category, > > - select the "inetutils" package and the "openssh" package, > > - continue downloading. > > Your installation will be updated with those new packages. > > Perhaps the Cygwin/XFree86 User Guide could be modified to make > sure telnet > and ssh get included in the installation the first time. It > currently tells > people to leave the default settings alone but the default does > not include > telnet. > > Phil Burk > > > > > > From mshley@csee.wvu.edu Wed Apr 3 21:58:00 2002 From: mshley@csee.wvu.edu (Marc) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 21:58:00 -0000 Subject: Win2k/Remote Login Display Message-ID: Hey all, Pretty new at working with Cygwin/XFree86, but didn't see anything on the web or in the FAQs. It seems that after 2 default installations of Cygwin and Xfree86, that running $ ./XWin.exe -query host.ip.address brings up the X window, but the pointer just moves a little and nothing comes up for any of the known-to-work machines I'm trying to grab a display from. I'm not running any firewalling either... Any suggestions? Thanks, Marc From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 3 22:00:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 22:00:00 -0000 Subject: Win2k/Remote Login Display In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Marc, Look at the log file in /tmp/XWin.log. Mail the file to the list if you can't figure out what to do (most error messages are in the FAQ). Be sure to mail the list and tell us what the solution was. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Marc > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:58 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Win2k/Remote Login Display > > > Hey all, > > Pretty new at working with Cygwin/XFree86, but didn't see anything on the > web or in the FAQs. > > It seems that after 2 default installations of Cygwin and Xfree86, that > running $ ./XWin.exe -query host.ip.address brings up the X window, but > the pointer just moves a little and nothing comes up for any of the > known-to-work machines I'm trying to grab a display from. > > I'm not running any firewalling either... > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Marc > > From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 3 22:33:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 22:33:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 54 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oops, the following should have been part of the original announcement: 2) Change winkeybd.c/winKeybdBell () to call MessageBeep (MB_OK) instead of Beep (0, 0). Beep () uses the PC speaker on Windows NT/2000, which isn't desireable. It also seems that Beep () may have been causing freezes for some users. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:44 PM > To: cygx > Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 54 > > > Links: > > I just posted Test 54 to the server development page: > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ > > Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now > available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network > (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the > pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the > desired filename in the links below, then download from your > closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). > > Server binary, direct link: > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test54.exe.bz2 (1077 KiB) > > Server source, direct link: > http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20020403-2033.tar.bz 2 (69 KiB) Changes: 1) Attempt to make WarpCursor function correctly by adding function winWarpCursor. The new function calls SetCursorPos () with the x and y coordinates passed to winWarpCursor. Hopefully this works. Enjoy, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 3 22:35:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 22:35:00 -0000 Subject: Sound makes cygwin/xfree86 lock up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'd like Joe and Tom to try Test54, as I have included the change described below in this build. http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ Thanks, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 12:01 AM > To: bozackt1@ridgecrest.ca.us; Perches, Joe > Cc: cygx > Subject: RE: Sound makes cygwin/xfree86 lock up > > > Tom, > > I changed xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winkeybd.c/winKeybdBell() to the > following a few weeks ago: > /* > * We can't use Beep () here because it uses the PC speaker > * on NT/2000. MessageBeep (MB_OK) will play the default system > * sound on systems with a sound card or it will beep the PC speaker > * on systems that do not have a sound card. > */ > MessageBeep (MB_OK); > > The previous function called Beep (), which doesn't really work, according > to the message that I put in above. > > You could make the function do nothing and see if that helps. I > assume that > you know how to compile Cygwin/XFree86 (if not, see the Contributor's > Guide). > > As for XDMCP stability, I and several other people (probably over > hundreds) > use XDMCP all the time without any stability problems. Is there anything > strange about your machine (low RAM, weird NIC (possibly token ring?), or > are you running under Windows 95 or have you had lots of software > installed > and uninstalled on your machine (that can cause DLL mismatches, > etc.)). You > could always visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and install all > updates available (that will take several reboots) to see if that helps. > > Anyhow, I have to go, > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tom Bozack [mailto:bozackt1@ridgecrest.ca.us] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:31 PM > > To: Perches, Joe > > Cc: 'huntharo@msu.edu' > > Subject: Re: Sound makes cygwin/xfree86 lock up > > > > > > I have no insight into how to debug this problem. However, I have > > notices that it has the appearance of a massive memory leak. Whatever > > triggers the problem causes system memory to be rapidly used up at which > > point xfree86 becomes unresponsive. If left in that state xfree86 will > > sometimes crash with a segmentation fault. > > > > I hope someone can figure out how to fix the problem. As it is xfree86 > > using xdmcp isn't stable enough on my systems for routine use. > > > > Tom > > > > Perches, Joe wrote: > > > I have an identical problem, and can't figure it out. > > > I've looked through the X code looking for how "ctrl-g" > > > bells are forwarded, but don't see why it's failing. > > > > > > I've looked round through the xfree 86 code and don't > > > see a particular failure mode. > > > > > > Do either of you have a debugging methodology I should > > > follow to trace down this? > > > > > > > From mshley@csee.wvu.edu Wed Apr 3 22:36:00 2002 From: mshley@csee.wvu.edu (Marc) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 22:36:00 -0000 Subject: Log file for Win2k/Remote Login Screen Message-ID: Here's what /tmp/XWin.log has to say... but I can't pick anything out of it that looks like an error message.. ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1280 h 1024 _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits per pix el winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280 winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide winAdjustForAutoHide - Found BOTTOM auto-hide taskbar winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1023 1280 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1274 h 998 r 1274 l 0 b 998 t 0 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Returning winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 3824 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24 winRandRInit () winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit () - returning And thats where it ends... Thanks for the help! --Marc From jaelong@lge.com Wed Apr 3 22:37:00 2002 From: jaelong@lge.com (=?euc-kr?B?sejA57/r?=) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 22:37:00 -0000 Subject: Any enlightenment package? Message-ID: I have tried to install enlightenment and installed various library and program for that. But I met error during make enlightenment.. like this -- /home/Administrator/src/enlight/dox/ttfont.c:574: undefined reference to `XShmCreateImage' /home/Administrator/src/enlight/dox/ttfont.c:589: undefined reference to `shmget' /home/Administrator/src/enlight/dox/ttfont.c:601: undefined reference to `shmat' /home/Administrator/src/enlight/dox/ttfont.c:609: undefined reference to `shmget' I have no idea how to solve this problem. And please let me know where I can find enlightenment package. if any. And another question. I have loved fvwm2 in Solaris a few years ago and have used Gnome+enllghtenment for a while in Redhat. I heard enlightenment is very new window manager. and is it better than fvwm2? Please answer. From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Apr 3 22:41:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 22:41:00 -0000 Subject: Log file for Win2k/Remote Login Screen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Marc, You're right, there are no errors in the log file. What sort of machine are you trying to connect to? Are you using a command line as described in the User's Guide? http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html Can you ping the remote machines in question? Are they connected via ethernet or over a cable-modem or telephone line? How do you know that they are "known-good", have you used Exceed or X-Win32 or some such X Server to connect to those machines? Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Marc > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 1:36 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Log file for Win2k/Remote Login Screen > > > Here's what /tmp/XWin.log has to say... but I can't pick anything out of > it that looks like an error message.. > > ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens > winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1280 h 1024 > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits > per pix > el > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280 > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found BOTTOM auto-hide taskbar > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1023 1280 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1274 h 998 r 1274 l 0 > b 998 > t 0 > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Returning > winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 3824 > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d > 24 > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24 > winRandRInit () > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > winScreenInit () - returning > > And thats where it ends... > > Thanks for the help! > --Marc > From mshley@csee.wvu.edu Wed Apr 3 22:48:00 2002 From: mshley@csee.wvu.edu (Marc) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 22:48:00 -0000 Subject: Log file for Win2k/Remote Login Screen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1017902953.31089.16.camel@trilogy> Thansk for the help Harold. I'm an admin for our CS dept at WVU. A few people on my staff and I have it working under Win98 on a few machines, and on another two Win2000 machines, all with default installations. The machines that I know are working fine are a RedHat 7.2 machine and a Sun Solaris machine. Both remote login windows open fine, as do logging in and running applications. But for some reason, the same default installation on my machine isn't working to grab their displays. I'm going to check the link you sent also. Thanks, Marc From mbardiaux@peaktime.be Thu Apr 4 01:05:00 2002 From: mbardiaux@peaktime.be (Michel Bardiaux) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 01:05:00 -0000 Subject: Status of "seamless" integration? References: <3CAA394C.9020104@stanfordalumni.org> <20020402231048.GK1115@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <3CAA4FA7.1060504@znark.com> <3CAABB49.5D208B4C@peaktime.be> <3CABA8DA.30002@stanfordalumni.org> Message-ID: <3CAC174B.A85620C5@peaktime.be> Ian Burrell wrote: > > Michel Bardiaux wrote: > > > > Aye, there's the rub. When the X application pops up a menu, it must > > grab the keyboard and the *whole* screen. In other words, a "system > > modal" window is required, which means one can't use an internal WM but > > must use MS-Windows as WM - while still being responsive to ICCM. > > > > Does the menu need to be truly modal on the Windows side? The menu > window has the focus so it will get keyboard events. It can be modal > with respect to all the other X server-owned windows. It is harder to > make it modal relative to Windows. But one *has* to. Otherwise the "feel" of menus would be wrong (you could click in some parts of the screen without dismissing the menu). > > Just to make sure we are using the same terms, what I mean by an > internal window manager one running inside the X server. I am taking my > cue from the eXcursion2 design document. Windows is generating the move, > resize, etc events. The window manager hooks into the X server Windows > event loop and handles window state events. The internal window manager > should act as proper window manager which presumably means talking to > the server. > > The other way I can see to handle a rootless X server is with a separate > X client window manager. For each root-level X window, there is a > corresponding Windows window. But without any frame at all. The window > manager draws the frame It would have to know the appropriate MS-Windows look. Because IMHO "seamless" means that you *don't* have to know whether a window is X or 'true MS-Windows'. > and handles moving, resizing, and all that. Wouldn't that be very inefficient; and also prevent things like outline move/resize? > The > X server is responsible of moving the Windows window. > > Does any of this make sense? Perfect sense. > > - Ian > -- > iburrell@stanfordalumni.org > http://www.znark.com/ HaND -- Michel Bardiaux Peaktime Belgium S.A. Bd. du Souverain, 191 B-1160 Bruxelles Tel : +32 2 790.29.41 From k.vriezen@vgelder.com Thu Apr 4 03:02:00 2002 From: k.vriezen@vgelder.com (Koos Vriezen) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 03:02:00 -0000 Subject: XFree speed problems with W2k Message-ID: Hi, I read serveral mailings about speed problems, but none seem to solve my problem. In our network we have a Linux box (RH7,1) configured for xdm. Xwin runs fine on the Win98 and WinNT boxes, but it's very slow on W2k. I use this script for starting Xwin: SET MAKE_MODE=UNIX SET PATH=s:\develop\unix\cygwin\bin;s:\develop\unix\cygwin\usr\bin;s:\develop\unix\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin;%windir%\system32;%windir%\command mount -f s:/develop/unix/cygwin / mount -f "%tmp%" /tmp SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 SET HOME=z:\ XWin -query 192.168.1.200 -nowinkill -unixkill -once -fp tcp/192.168.1.200:7100 On W2k it takes minutes to get de xdm login screen, while eating a lot of CPU time. Everyting you do from then is slow and CPU expensive. The W2k boxes have SP2 installed. Another strange thing is the contents of xwin.log, it only contains two lines: ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768 On win98 I see a lot more: ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768 ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 16 i: 3 _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000017 winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 1 winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pixel winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l 0 b 715 t 0 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - Returning winInitVisualsGDI () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16 winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 16 winRandRInit () winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () winScreenInit () - returning Any ideas? Regards, Koos Vriezen From edi@serbski-institut.de Thu Apr 4 03:57:00 2002 From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 03:57:00 -0000 Subject: XFree speed problems with W2k In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020404.135312.74720575.edi@serbski-institut.de> > On W2k it takes minutes to get de xdm login screen, while eating a lot of > CPU time. Everyting you do from then is slow and CPU expensive. > The W2k boxes have SP2 installed. What is SP2? I have experienced speed problems with win98 which went away after - disabling virus scanners running in background like McAffee - disabling ATI Graphic utilities (disable and remove from registry) which do next to nothing but eat up to 85% of the resources. Hope this helps Edi From list-cygwin.xfree@spoiled.org Thu Apr 4 04:05:00 2002 From: list-cygwin.xfree@spoiled.org (thomas graichen) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 04:05:00 -0000 Subject: Status of "seamless" integration? References: <3CAA394C.9020104@stanfordalumni.org> <20020402231048.GK1115@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <3CAA4FA7.1060504@znark.com> <3CAABB49.5D208B4C@peaktime.be> <3CABA8DA.30002@stanfordalumni.org> <3CAC174B.A85620C5@peaktime.be> Message-ID: just a sidenote: it might be a good idea to have a look at the rootless x-server for macos-x in xfree86 (but maybe there everything is completely different) ... just an idea t -- thomas graichen ... perfection is reached, not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away. --- antoine de saint-exupery From k.vriezen@vgelder.com Thu Apr 4 04:22:00 2002 From: k.vriezen@vgelder.com (Koos Vriezen) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 04:22:00 -0000 Subject: XFree speed problems with W2k In-Reply-To: <20020404.135312.74720575.edi@serbski-institut.de> Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, PD Dr. Edward Wornar wrote: > > On W2k it takes minutes to get de xdm login screen, while eating a lot of > > CPU time. Everyting you do from then is slow and CPU expensive. > > The W2k boxes have SP2 installed. > > What is SP2? I have experienced speed problems with win98 which went away > after > - disabling virus scanners running in background like McAffee > - disabling ATI Graphic utilities (disable and remove from registry) > which do next to nothing but eat up to 85% of the resources. Thanks, it was Norten AV's auto protect. Funny, only W2k suffers from it. BTW, SP2 comes from W2ksp2.exe of 103 Mb (don't ask me more). Regards, Koos Vriezen From flognat@flognat.myip.org Thu Apr 4 04:41:00 2002 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 04:41:00 -0000 Subject: XFree speed problems with W2k In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: | BTW, SP2 comes from W2ksp2.exe of 103 Mb (don't ask me more). SP2, Servicepack 2, downloadable from IE, tools->windows update.. /Andy -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Apr 4 04:48:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 04:48:00 -0000 Subject: FW: missing telnet, solution Message-ID: Phil Burk sent this to me. Harold -----Original Message----- From: Phil Burk [mailto:philburk@softsynth.com] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 2:16 AM To: Harold Hunt Subject: Re: missing telnet, solution Hello Harold, Thanks for updating the doc! It seems like a minor thing but it will save folks like me from many hours of head scratching. Phill Burk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Hunt" To: "Phil Burk" ; Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 9:58 PM Subject: RE: missing telnet, solution > Phil, > > I updated the User's Guide to say that most users will find the default > package list sufficient, but that you want to make sure that openssh and > inetutils are selected if you wish to use telnet or ssh. > > Hope that helps. > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Phil Burk > > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:49 AM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: missing telnet, solution > > > > > > I followed all the steps to install Cygwin/XFree from the user guide. > > Everything worked great until I got to the part about telnet. It > > was missing > > from my installation. I spent about two hours looking over the Cygwin site > > trying to figure out how to get and install telnet. I noticed in > > this forum > > that other folks had the same problem but no working solution was offered. > > > > I finally figured it out. Here's how: > > > > - re-run the SETUP.EXE program that you used to install Cygwin, > > > > - select "Install from Internet" option, > > > > - select same install directory as before, > > > > - choose a download site as before, > > > > - when you get a list of packages, click the '+' next to the > > "Net" category, > > > > - select the "inetutils" package and the "openssh" package, > > > > - continue downloading. > > > > Your installation will be updated with those new packages. > > > > Perhaps the Cygwin/XFree86 User Guide could be modified to make > > sure telnet > > and ssh get included in the installation the first time. It > > currently tells > > people to leave the default settings alone but the default does > > not include > > telnet. > > > > Phil Burk > > > > > > > > > > > > > From BillT@VideoTele.com Thu Apr 4 07:49:00 2002 From: BillT@VideoTele.com (Trost, Bill) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 07:49:00 -0000 Subject: XWarpCursor doesn't "stick" Message-ID: From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] I'd like you to try the new Test 54 server that I just put together and announced to the list. Please let me know if it fixes your problem. That's better, but still not quite right -- it looks as though the pointer is being visually warped to a window location, but logically warped to a screen location. That is, the pointer now jumps by the X server window's distance from the screen's <0, 0> location when I move the mouse. From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Apr 4 08:02:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 08:02:00 -0000 Subject: XWarpCursor doesn't "stick" Message-ID: <200204041602.g34G2id25202@pilot13.cl.msu.edu> Bill, So lets say that the Windows cursor is at 100, 100 (screen coords), the upper left-hand corner of the Cygwin/XFree86 client area is at 25, 25 (screen coords) and a warp request comes in to move to the X cursor to 200, 200 (X windows coords). I am thinking of two things that you could be saying: 1) The cursor stays in the same place because the request was for a translation of 100, 100, which is the same location that the cursor is presently at. (In other words, I am receiving an offset to move the mouse by and I'm instead treating those values as the final destination coordinates). 2) Or, I receive a request to move the cursor to a final location of 200, 200 and I do so, which fails to take into account that the X cursor root is at 25, 25 in Windows screen coodinates. Which one is it? I think it sounds like #2, in which case the (x,y) that I get in winWarpCursor are the final destination values, but I need to query for the upper-left hand corner of the Cygwin/XFree86 client area before calling SetCursorPos so that I can offset the final destination. We'll get it right eventually. Notice that no one has really request the WarpCursor functionality before, that's why it doesn't work yet. :) Harold "Trost, Bill" said: > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > > I'd like you to try the new Test 54 server that I just put > together and announced to the list. Please let me know if it fixes your > problem. > > That's better, but still not quite right -- it looks as though the pointer > is being visually warped to a window location, but logically warped to a > screen location. That is, the pointer now jumps by the X server window's > distance from the screen's <0, 0> location when I move the mouse. > From BillT@VideoTele.com Thu Apr 4 08:42:00 2002 From: BillT@VideoTele.com (Trost, Bill) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 08:42:00 -0000 Subject: XWarpCursor doesn't "stick" Message-ID: From: Harold L Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] So lets say that the Windows cursor is at 100, 100 (screen coords), the upper left-hand corner of the Cygwin/XFree86 client area is at 25, 25 (screen coords) and a warp request comes in to move to the X cursor to 200, 200 (X windows coords). I am thinking of two things that you could be saying: 1) ... 2) Or, I receive a request to move the cursor to a final location of 200, 200 and I do so, which fails to take into account that the X cursor root is at 25, 25 in Windows screen coodinates. It looks like #2 to me. Email sure makes it hard to explain some things, doesn't it? Visually, the effect is, if I simply run "XWin" (so that the X root occupies a maximized Windows window), after a large warp, tweaking the mouse will cause the pointer to jump up one title-bar height. ...I need to query for the upper-left hand corner of the Cygwin/XFree86 client area before calling SetCursorPos so that I can offset the final destination. That's what I guess needs fixing. Notice that no one has really request the WarpCursor functionality before, that's why it doesn't work yet. :) Really? I'm shocked! (-: From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Apr 4 19:15:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 19:15:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 55 Message-ID: Links: I just posted Test 55 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test55.exe.bz2 (1078 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20020404-2206.tar.bz2 (70 KiB) Changes: 1) Try to fix winPointerWarpCursor by offsetting by the coordinates of the Cygwin/XFree86 client area upper left-hand corner. Enjoy, Harold From mykbourassa@cogeco.ca Thu Apr 4 19:24:00 2002 From: mykbourassa@cogeco.ca (Mike) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 19:24:00 -0000 Subject: App Unable to Access X Display Message-ID: <3CAD1A08.AD0A8B44@cogeco.ca> Hello. My name is Mike. I am running Win 2000 Pro. I have recently tried to install the Lyx Latex editor. I had a successful XFree86/Cygwin and, by all indications, Lyx install. When I try to launch Lyx, I receive the error "cannot access X display, exiting." I raise the issue here because it does not seem to have been resolved at the "Lyx" end of things and thus may be a bigger problem than just the app itself. The pat response to the query from the Lyx side of the house is to modify the Lyx config file. Specifically, to change the variable "DISPLAY =" from " localhost:0.0" to the computer's IP address e.g. "192.168.0.102:0.0". Unfortunately, several posts seem to indicate that this does not necessarily work. Certainly, in my case it hasn't. The other pat answer is to make sure any firewalls allow local port access. This does not seem to resolve the issue either. I have searched the internet and mail archives and still haven't found a solution. Again, I raise the issue simply in case it matters to you. If you have an insight it would be appreciated. Meanwhile, I will return to trying to convince my department that even if it isn't WYSIWYG, Latex is still worth a shot. Cheers. Mike From flognat@flognat.myip.org Thu Apr 4 21:30:00 2002 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 21:30:00 -0000 Subject: App Unable to Access X Display In-Reply-To: <3CAD1A08.AD0A8B44@cogeco.ca> References: <3CAD1A08.AD0A8B44@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: Have you ran startxwin.bat/.sh first? Tried it from a xterm? Hmm weird lyx has display in a config-file.. /Andy | | The pat response to the query from the Lyx side of the house is to | modify the Lyx config file. Specifically, to change the variable | "DISPLAY =" from " localhost:0.0" to the computer's IP address e.g. | "192.168.0.102:0.0". Unfortunately, several posts seem to indicate that -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From saunup@hotmail.com Thu Apr 4 22:01:00 2002 From: saunup@hotmail.com (Saurabh Nupur) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 22:01:00 -0000 Subject: cx-logos Message-ID: hello all, i made some logos. http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_2.jpg http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_3.jpg http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_4.jpg http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_1.jpg suggestions and comments are welcome nupur From starksb@ebi.ac.uk Fri Apr 5 03:34:00 2002 From: starksb@ebi.ac.uk (David Starks-Browning) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 03:34:00 -0000 Subject: cx-logos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5497-Fri05Apr2002113432+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk> On Thursday 4 Apr 02, Saurabh Nupur writes: > hello all, > > i made some logos. > > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_2.jpg > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_3.jpg > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_4.jpg > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_1.jpg > > suggestions and comments are welcome Personally, I don't find that "CX" conveys "Cygwin/XFree86" very well. But I don't have other suggestions, sorry. David From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Apr 5 03:48:00 2002 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 03:48:00 -0000 Subject: cx-logos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Saurabh Nupur wrote: > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_4.jpg I like this one. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From briangenisio@yahoo.com Fri Apr 5 04:01:00 2002 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 04:01:00 -0000 Subject: cx-logos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020405120108.61875.qmail@web20805.mail.yahoo.com> Yes, I like this one the best as well. I believe it is very important to convey that this is a port of the XFree86 software. This logo does it well with it's "86". Might I suggest also incorporating some identification of Cygwin? There are two logos I have seen (www.cygwin.com), the one that looks like a copyright symbol with an arrow, and the BlackAndGreen, ugly Cygwin icon. Possibly, you can incorporate one of those feels? Also, have you seen the X logo? (Open the X server, and run xlogo.exe) This is kind of a standard X-windows protocol logo. You might want to incorporate that somehow. Just my 2 cents, Brian --- Alexander Gottwald wrote: > On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Saurabh Nupur wrote: > > > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_4.jpg > > I like this one. > > bye > ago > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Apr 5 05:05:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 05:05:00 -0000 Subject: cx-logos In-Reply-To: <20020405120108.61875.qmail@web20805.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm not so sure that we are allowed to use the X logo. That would have to be looked into before we started using it. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Brian Genisio > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 7:01 AM > To: Alexander Gottwald; Saurabh Nupur > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: cx-logos > > > Yes, I like this one the best as well. I believe it is very important to > convey that this is a port of the XFree86 software. This logo > does it well > with it's "86". Might I suggest also incorporating some identification of > Cygwin? There are two logos I have seen (www.cygwin.com), the > one that looks > like a copyright symbol with an arrow, and the BlackAndGreen, > ugly Cygwin icon. > Possibly, you can incorporate one of those feels? > > Also, have you seen the X logo? (Open the X server, and run > xlogo.exe) This is > kind of a standard X-windows protocol logo. You might want to > incorporate that > somehow. > > Just my 2 cents, > Brian > > --- Alexander Gottwald > wrote: > > On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Saurabh Nupur wrote: > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_4.jpg > > > > I like this one. > > > > bye > > ago > > -- > > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > > phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Fri Apr 5 05:36:00 2002 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 05:36:00 -0000 Subject: App Unable to Acceess X Display In-Reply-To: <3CAD02D1.40A73FFC@cogeco.ca> References: <3CAD02D1.40A73FFC@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <20020405133649.GB11818@redhat.com> Redirected to proper mailing list. On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 08:50:10PM -0500, Mike wrote: >Hello. My name is Mike. I am running Win 2000 Pro. I have recently >tried to install the Lyx Latex editor. I had a successful Cygwin and, >by all indications, Lyx install. When I try to launch Lyx, I receive >the error "cannot access X display, exiting." I raise the issue here >because it does not seem to have been resolved at the "Lyx" end of >things and thus may be a bigger problem than just the app itself. >The pat response to the query from the Lyx side of the house is to >modify the Lyx config file. Specifically, to change the variable >"DISPLAY =" from " localhost:0.0" to the computer's IP address e.g. >"192.168.0.102:0.0". Unfortunately, several posts seem to indicate that >this does not necessarily work. Certainly, in my case it hasn't. The >other pat answer is to make sure any firewalls allow local port access. >This does not seem to resolve the issue either. I have searched the >internet and mail archives and still haven't found a solution. > >Again, I raise the issue simply in case it matters to you. If you have >an insight it would be appreciated. Meanwhile, I will return to trying >to convince my department that even if it isn't WYSIWYG, Latex is still >worth a shot. Cheers. From bax3@bigfoot.com Fri Apr 5 06:48:00 2002 From: bax3@bigfoot.com (Michael) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 06:48:00 -0000 Subject: Missing terminfo data in XFree86 4.2.0 Message-ID: Hi I ran into the following problem with the current XFree86 distribution, but could not find any mention of any solution here or elsewhere. SYMPTOMS -------- * "vt102" terminal setting (TERM) in xterm windows instead of "xterm" * "WARNING: terminal is not fully functional" error messages from /bin/less * Missing /usr/share/terminfo/x/xterm and other terminfo data files CAUSE ----- 1. The current XFree86 for Cygwin distribution is missing the file xterm.terminfo (but not xterm.termcap) in Xlib.tgz. (However this is not true for other distributions, eg FreeBSD.) It is missing in the distribution available from the Cygwin mirrors and the distribution available directly from XFree86. 2. After unpacking the distribution files, the script Xinstall.sh asks the user whether to update the terminfo entries. The default is no, but the blurb notes that new features will be unavailable otherwise. If the user says yes: 3. The script moves a number of existing terminfo entries to *.bak 4. The script tries to run tic on /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/etc/xterm.terminfo to replace them 5. Since this file is not present, tic fails 6. The following terminfo files are subsequently effectively missing: xterm, xterms, xterm-24, xterm-vi, xterm-65, xterm-bold, xtermm, xterm-boldso, xterm-ic, xterm-r6, xterm-old, xterm-r5, vs100 INTERIM SOLUTIONS ----------------- During install (pre-emptive): * Do not elect to update terminfo entries After install (treatment): * Setting the TERM variable to another value such as cygwin or ansi is a temporary workaround * Moving the renamed files back to their original names reverses the damage ("mv xterm.bak xterm" etc) DISTRIBUTION FIX? ----------------- Include the file or change the installation script QUESTIONS --------- * Is there some reason xterm.terminfo is missing, or is this an error? * Is it possible to use e.g. the FreeBSD distribution's xterm.terminfo file? * Is it advised against updating the terminfo data? * If so, then what about updating termcap entries (suggested by Xinstall.h)? * What is lost by not using the new terminfo data? Thanks Michael From salexander@taz.qinetiq.com Fri Apr 5 07:24:00 2002 From: salexander@taz.qinetiq.com (Scott Alexander) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 07:24:00 -0000 Subject: kde 3.0 no icons Message-ID: <000701c1dcb6$292d7c90$2153b80a@gooshy> Hi, My server has just been upgraded to kde 3.0 running redhat 7.2. I use = cygwin with xfree86 to connect to this server using x -query I have been doing this for a while with kde 2.2.2 with no problems. = However when i connect to it now with kde 3 my screen has no icons or = icons on the kicker bar at the bottom. =20 Does anyone know of this problem and a solution for it. My machine runs w2k with up 2 date cygwin and xfree86. Cheers Scott Alexander From jozsefke@freemail.hu Fri Apr 5 07:32:00 2002 From: jozsefke@freemail.hu (jozsefke@freemail.hu) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 07:32:00 -0000 Subject: Help on XDM with Solaris Host Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020405172708.00a72270@freemail.hu> Hi everybody! I have exactly the same problem, but the solution mentioned below I don't understand. What does it mean 'tcp/solaris_box:7100'? Is it a path, or what? Bo, please be more specific. Thanks, joco >Thanks to derk.steggewentz. The problem was solved. >I only need to point the font path to the font server which is >already running on my Solaris box. > XWin -query solaris_box -fp tcp/solaris_box:7100 >Bo > -----Original Message----- > From: Zhang, Bo > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:01 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree86.cygwin.com' > Subject: Help on XDM with Solaris Host > > > I found in the Cygwin/Xfree86 FAQ there is a similar issue, which > was supposed to have been solved by installing the latest Solaris > patches. > > I did install all the recommended patches. And my XWin still can't > come up with XDMCP. > > I got the following error messages after XWin hang for a long time > and timed-out: > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1274 h 970 r 1274 > l 0 b 970 t 0 > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d > 32 > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > AUDIT: Wed Dec 12 16:50:25 2001: 255 XWin: client 1 rejected from IP > 172.16.33.210 port 33748 > Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: -1 > XDM: too many keepalive retransmissions, declaring session dead > > Can anyone help me out? > > Thanks, > > Bo > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Zhang, Bo > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 6:37 PM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree86.cygwin.com' > Subject: Help on XDM with Solaris Host > > > Hello, everyone, > > I have installed Cygwin/Xfree86 on my NT machine. XWin worked fine > as a standalone X-server. However, I couldn't get XDM to work with > my > Solaris 2.8. The root window is opened, but it hangs there. It looks > like > some kind of infinite loop (CPU ustilization on my PC goes 100% for > a > very long time), but Alt-F4 still works. > > Has anyone experienced this before? Does anyone has solutions to it? > > Thanks, > > Bo Zhang From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Apr 5 08:36:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 08:36:00 -0000 Subject: Missing terminfo data in XFree86 4.2.0 Message-ID: <200204051636.g35Gaex36888@pilot16.cl.msu.edu> Michael, You already know way more about the problem than I do. I have never seen the problem described so completely. Reasoning from what you have said leads me to believe that the packaging script that we use (same as all of the other XFree86 platforms) may be misbehaving and accidentally leaving out said file. I guess what needs to happen is for Alan or I to take a look at the packaging process and see if there is an error that indicates that this is indeed happening. Or, you could take a look for yourself (since you know more about the problem), by following the build and packing instructions in the Cygwin/XFree86 Contributor's Guide: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/ Harold Michael said: > Hi > > I ran into the following problem with the current XFree86 distribution, but > could not find any mention of any solution here or elsewhere. > > SYMPTOMS > -------- > * "vt102" terminal setting (TERM) in xterm windows instead of "xterm" > * "WARNING: terminal is not fully functional" error messages from /bin/less > * Missing /usr/share/terminfo/x/xterm and other terminfo data files > > CAUSE > ----- > 1. The current XFree86 for Cygwin distribution is missing the file > xterm.terminfo (but not xterm.termcap) in Xlib.tgz. (However this is > not true for other distributions, eg FreeBSD.) It is missing in the > distribution available from the Cygwin mirrors and the distribution > available directly from XFree86. > 2. After unpacking the distribution files, the script Xinstall.sh asks the > user whether to update the terminfo entries. The default is no, but the > blurb notes that new features will be unavailable otherwise. > > If the user says yes: > 3. The script moves a number of existing terminfo entries to *.bak > 4. The script tries to run tic on /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/etc/xterm.terminfo to > replace them > 5. Since this file is not present, tic fails > 6. The following terminfo files are subsequently effectively missing: xterm, > xterms, xterm-24, xterm-vi, xterm-65, xterm-bold, xtermm, xterm-boldso, > xterm-ic, xterm-r6, xterm-old, xterm-r5, vs100 > > INTERIM SOLUTIONS > ----------------- > During install (pre-emptive): > * Do not elect to update terminfo entries > After install (treatment): > * Setting the TERM variable to another value such as cygwin or ansi is > a temporary workaround > * Moving the renamed files back to their original names reverses the > damage ("mv xterm.bak xterm" etc) > > DISTRIBUTION FIX? > ----------------- > Include the file or change the installation script > > QUESTIONS > --------- > * Is there some reason xterm.terminfo is missing, or is this an error? > * Is it possible to use e.g. the FreeBSD distribution's xterm.terminfo file? > * Is it advised against updating the terminfo data? > * If so, then what about updating termcap entries (suggested by Xinstall.h)? > * What is lost by not using the new terminfo data? > > Thanks > Michael > > From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Apr 5 08:42:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 08:42:00 -0000 Subject: Help on XDM with Solaris Host Message-ID: <200204051642.g35Ggix47996@pilot16.cl.msu.edu> Joco, The question has been answered more specifically: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-solaris-fonts Harold jozsefke@freemail.hu said: > Hi everybody! > > I have exactly the same problem, but the solution > mentioned below I don't understand. > What does it mean 'tcp/solaris_box:7100'? > Is it a path, or what? > Bo, please be more specific. > > Thanks, > joco > > > >Thanks to derk.steggewentz. The problem was solved. > >I only need to point the font path to the font server which is > >already running on my Solaris box. > > XWin -query solaris_box -fp tcp/solaris_box:7100 > >Bo > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Zhang, Bo > > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:01 AM > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree86.cygwin.com' > > Subject: Help on XDM with Solaris Host > > > > > > I found in the Cygwin/Xfree86 FAQ there is a similar issue, which > > was supposed to have been solved by installing the latest Solaris > > patches. > > > > I did install all the recommended patches. And my XWin still can't > > come up with XDMCP. > > > > I got the following error messages after XWin hang for a long time > > and timed-out: > > > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD > > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b > > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw > > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1274 h 970 r 1274 > > l 0 b 970 t 0 > > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d > > 32 > > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () > > AUDIT: Wed Dec 12 16:50:25 2001: 255 XWin: client 1 rejected from IP > > 172.16.33.210 port 33748 > > Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: -1 > > XDM: too many keepalive retransmissions, declaring session dead > > > > Can anyone help me out? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bo > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Zhang, Bo > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 6:37 PM > > To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree86.cygwin.com' > > Subject: Help on XDM with Solaris Host > > > > > > Hello, everyone, > > > > I have installed Cygwin/Xfree86 on my NT machine. XWin worked fine > > as a standalone X-server. However, I couldn't get XDM to work with > > my > > Solaris 2.8. The root window is opened, but it hangs there. It looks > > like > > some kind of infinite loop (CPU ustilization on my PC goes 100% for > > a > > very long time), but Alt-F4 still works. > > > > Has anyone experienced this before? Does anyone has solutions to it? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bo Zhang > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Apr 5 08:48:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 08:48:00 -0000 Subject: kde 3.0 no icons Message-ID: <200204051648.g35GmEx48722@pilot16.cl.msu.edu> Scott, That doesn't sound good. I haven't yet installed KDE 3.0 and I won't have time to for at least a week, so I won't have a chance to look into this for some time. I know you say that Cygwin/XFree86 is up-to-date, but are you running Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0? You can check by running 'xdpyinfo' in a local Cygwin/XFree86 session or in a terminal when you are logged into another machine via XDMCP. Awaiting a chance to investiage this, Harold Scott Alexander said: > Hi, > > My server has just been upgraded to kde 3.0 running redhat 7.2. I use = > cygwin with xfree86 to connect to this server using > > x -query > > I have been doing this for a while with kde 2.2.2 with no problems. = > However when i connect to it now with kde 3 my screen has no icons or = > icons on the kicker bar at the bottom. =20 > > Does anyone know of this problem and a solution for it. > > My machine runs w2k with up 2 date cygwin and xfree86. > > Cheers > > Scott Alexander > > From nik@bates-haus.org Fri Apr 5 09:02:00 2002 From: nik@bates-haus.org (Nikolaus Bates-Haus) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 09:02:00 -0000 Subject: cx-logos In-Reply-To: <5497-Fri05Apr2002113432+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk> References: <5497-Fri05Apr2002113432+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20020405170203.GA542@rover.bates-haus.org> Thanks for taking the time to put these together; I even have a suggestion! I agree that a plain "CX" doesn't really convey Cygwin/XFree86; but the Cygwin logo ( http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/cygwin-icon.gif ) combined with the X logo ( generally available in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/xlogo64 ) _would_ be clear. -nik On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 11:34:32AM +0000, David Starks-Browning wrote: > On Thursday 4 Apr 02, Saurabh Nupur writes: > > hello all, > > > > i made some logos. > > > > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_2.jpg > > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_3.jpg > > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_4.jpg > > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_1.jpg > > > > suggestions and comments are welcome > > Personally, I don't find that "CX" conveys "Cygwin/XFree86" very > well. But I don't have other suggestions, sorry. > > David > From cgf@redhat.com Fri Apr 5 09:04:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 09:04:00 -0000 Subject: cx-logos In-Reply-To: <20020405170203.GA542@rover.bates-haus.org> References: <5497-Fri05Apr2002113432+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk> <20020405170203.GA542@rover.bates-haus.org> Message-ID: <20020405170425.GB13495@redhat.com> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:02:04PM -0500, Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote: >Thanks for taking the time to put these together; I even have a suggestion! > >I agree that a plain "CX" doesn't really convey Cygwin/XFree86; but the >Cygwin logo ( http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/cygwin-icon.gif ) >combined with the X logo ( generally available in >/usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/xlogo64 ) _would_ be clear. Didn't someone post a really cool 3-d version of the cygwin icon + X a couple of weeks ago? cgf From nik@bates-haus.org Fri Apr 5 09:13:00 2002 From: nik@bates-haus.org (Nikolaus Bates-Haus) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 09:13:00 -0000 Subject: cx-logos In-Reply-To: <20020405170425.GB13495@redhat.com> References: <5497-Fri05Apr2002113432+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk> <20020405170203.GA542@rover.bates-haus.org> <20020405170425.GB13495@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20020405171336.GA692@rover.bates-haus.org> You're right. I missed the message when it came through; http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00234.html Logo by Tucker McLean; I like it. -nik On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:04:25PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:02:04PM -0500, Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote: > >Thanks for taking the time to put these together; I even have a suggestion! > > > >I agree that a plain "CX" doesn't really convey Cygwin/XFree86; but the > >Cygwin logo ( http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/cygwin-icon.gif ) > >combined with the X logo ( generally available in > >/usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/xlogo64 ) _would_ be clear. > > Didn't someone post a really cool 3-d version of the cygwin icon + X a > couple of weeks ago? > > cgf From starksb@ebi.ac.uk Fri Apr 5 09:24:00 2002 From: starksb@ebi.ac.uk (David Starks-Browning) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 09:24:00 -0000 Subject: cx-logos In-Reply-To: <20020405171336.GA692@rover.bates-haus.org> References: <5497-Fri05Apr2002113432+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk> <20020405170203.GA542@rover.bates-haus.org> <20020405170425.GB13495@redhat.com> <20020405171336.GA692@rover.bates-haus.org> Message-ID: <2052-Fri05Apr2002172418+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk> On Friday 5 Apr 02, Nikolaus Bates-Haus writes: > You're right. I missed the message when it came through; > http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00234.html > > Logo by Tucker McLean; I like it. Yes, this one is very good IMO. David From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Apr 5 10:31:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 10:31:00 -0000 Subject: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem Message-ID: I recently stumbled across a message you wrote way back in March 2001: http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200103/msg00082.html I notice that you say that cygwin.cf shouldn't be defining __STDC__ in StandardDefines. I can see that linux.cf and darwin.cf do not define __STDC__ in StandardDefines, but I don't know why we should not be defining it either. A quick and explanation would get this problem quickly remedied (I like to do things correctly, so I'd like to fix this problem). Thanks, Harold From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Fri Apr 5 10:51:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 10:51:00 -0000 Subject: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem In-Reply-To: ; from huntharo@msu.edu on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 01:31:48 -0500 References: Message-ID: <20020405195141.B27469@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 01:31:48 -0500, Harold Hunt wrote: > I recently stumbled across a message you wrote way back in March 2001: > http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200103/msg00082.html > > I notice that you say that cygwin.cf shouldn't be defining __STDC__ in > StandardDefines. I can see that linux.cf and darwin.cf do not define > __STDC__ in StandardDefines, but I don't know why we should not be defining > it either. > > A quick and explanation would get this problem quickly remedied (I like to > do things correctly, so I'd like to fix this problem). > Good point. The compiler should define __STDC__ depending on the flags passed to it. Alan. From cgf@redhat.com Fri Apr 5 11:07:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 11:07:00 -0000 Subject: cx-logos In-Reply-To: <20020405171336.GA692@rover.bates-haus.org> References: <5497-Fri05Apr2002113432+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk> <20020405170203.GA542@rover.bates-haus.org> <20020405170425.GB13495@redhat.com> <20020405171336.GA692@rover.bates-haus.org> Message-ID: <20020405190727.GA15346@redhat.com> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:13:37PM -0500, Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote: >You're right. I missed the message when it came through; >http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00234.html > >Logo by Tucker McLean; I like it. Me too. A lot. I don't know if Tucker is still listen, but I'm wondering if he would like to send just the cygwin logo part. I'd like to use it for the cygwin stuff. In fact, I'd like to use it for Cygwin Setup. cgf >On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:04:25PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:02:04PM -0500, Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote: >> >Thanks for taking the time to put these together; I even have a suggestion! >> > >> >I agree that a plain "CX" doesn't really convey Cygwin/XFree86; but the >> >Cygwin logo ( http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/cygwin-icon.gif ) >> >combined with the X logo ( generally available in >> >/usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/xlogo64 ) _would_ be clear. >> >> Didn't someone post a really cool 3-d version of the cygwin icon + X a >> couple of weeks ago? >> >> cgf From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Apr 5 11:17:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 11:17:00 -0000 Subject: FW: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem Message-ID: Here is what Paul had to say. Put together with what Alan said it sounds like __STDC__ will be coming out of StandardDefines. Alan, do you want to commit this directly, or would you like me to submit a patch? Harold -----Original Message----- From: Paul Stodghill [mailto:stodghil@cs.cornell.edu] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:53 PM To: Harold Hunt Subject: RE: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem It's been over a year, but I believe that my reasoning was as follows, I guess it is not technically a bug. However, the C standard (or at least the c9x draft that I have) says that __STDC__ is a predefined implementation specific macro. The GCC manual discusses how __STDC__ is set depending upon the use of the -traditional flag. I don't believe that it makes sense to set or unset __STDC__ either from the command line or using preprocessor directives. Hope this helps. > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:32 PM > To: Paul Stodghill > Cc: cygx > Subject: RE: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem > > > I recently stumbled across a message you wrote way back in March 2001: > http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200103/msg00082.html > > I notice that you say that cygwin.cf shouldn't be defining __STDC__ in > StandardDefines. I can see that linux.cf and darwin.cf do not define > __STDC__ in StandardDefines, but I don't know why we should > not be defining > it either. > > A quick and explanation would get this problem quickly > remedied (I like to > do things correctly, so I'd like to fix this problem). > > Thanks, > > Harold > > From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Fri Apr 5 11:31:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 11:31:00 -0000 Subject: FW: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem In-Reply-To: ; from huntharo@msu.edu on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 02:17:29 -0500 References: Message-ID: <20020405203119.C27469@fairlite.demon.co.uk> I can remove it - no problem. Have you tried building the tree without it first though ? Alan. On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 02:17:29 -0500, Harold Hunt wrote: > Here is what Paul had to say. Put together with what Alan said it sounds > like __STDC__ will be coming out of StandardDefines. > > Alan, do you want to commit this directly, or would you like me to submit a > patch? > > Harold > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Stodghill [mailto:stodghil@cs.cornell.edu] > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:53 PM > To: Harold Hunt > Subject: RE: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem > > > It's been over a year, but I believe that my reasoning was as follows, > > I guess it is not technically a bug. However, the C standard (or at least > the c9x draft that I have) says that __STDC__ is a predefined implementation > specific macro. The GCC manual discusses how __STDC__ is set depending upon > the use of the -traditional flag. I don't believe that it makes sense to set > or unset __STDC__ either from the command line or using preprocessor > directives. > > Hope this helps. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:32 PM > > To: Paul Stodghill > > Cc: cygx > > Subject: RE: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem > > > > > > I recently stumbled across a message you wrote way back in March 2001: > > http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200103/msg00082.html > > > > I notice that you say that cygwin.cf shouldn't be defining __STDC__ in > > StandardDefines. I can see that linux.cf and darwin.cf do not define > > __STDC__ in StandardDefines, but I don't know why we should > > not be defining > > it either. > > > > A quick and explanation would get this problem quickly > > remedied (I like to > > do things correctly, so I'd like to fix this problem). > > > > Thanks, > > > > Harold > > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Apr 5 14:31:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 14:31:00 -0000 Subject: kde 3.0 no icons In-Reply-To: <000701c1dcb6$292d7c90$2153b80a@gooshy> Message-ID: Scott, I couldn't resist installing KDE3, so I did. I didn't have any problems. I suspect that something went wrong during installation of KDE3 on your machine. Here is a screenshot: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/screenshots/cygwin-xfree86-remote-kde3.png I added that shot to the screenshots page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/screenshots/ I hope you get the problem figured out, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Scott Alexander > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:26 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: kde 3.0 no icons > > > Hi, > > My server has just been upgraded to kde 3.0 running redhat 7.2. I use = > cygwin with xfree86 to connect to this server using > > x -query > > I have been doing this for a while with kde 2.2.2 with no problems. = > However when i connect to it now with kde 3 my screen has no icons or = > icons on the kicker bar at the bottom. =20 > > Does anyone know of this problem and a solution for it. > > My machine runs w2k with up 2 date cygwin and xfree86. > > Cheers > > Scott Alexander > From mshley@csee.wvu.edu Fri Apr 5 14:39:00 2002 From: mshley@csee.wvu.edu (Marc) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 14:39:00 -0000 Subject: Log file for Win2k/Remote Login Screen References: Message-ID: <001f01c1dcf2$5111c540$0100a8c0@mgtnwv.adelphia.net> Just a recap, I wasn't getting my remote login window when grabbing a display from a machine running xdm stuff.. Turns out my installation was ok, but there was an old DNS entry associated with my IP address and it must have been trying some funky reverse look up stuff before giving me my display. I changed the IP to one with no DNS entry and everything is fine now. I need to figure out how to tunnel these remote displays through ssh or another type of encryption, but I don't see any possibilities. I don't like sending my password in the clear via xdmcp. Anyone working with this? Thanks! Marc ----- Original Message ----- From: Harold Hunt To: Marc ; Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 1:41 AM Subject: RE: Log file for Win2k/Remote Login Screen > Marc, > > You're right, there are no errors in the log file. > > What sort of machine are you trying to connect to? Are you using a command > line as described in the User's Guide? > > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html > > Can you ping the remote machines in question? Are they connected via > ethernet or over a cable-modem or telephone line? How do you know that they > are "known-good", have you used Exceed or X-Win32 or some such X Server to > connect to those machines? > From tae.lee@attws.com Fri Apr 5 15:08:00 2002 From: tae.lee@attws.com (Lee, Tae) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 15:08:00 -0000 Subject: Hi, I have question on cygwin configuration. Message-ID: <8303A3EE6BF6D411A74300D0B7DF75F3059A4832@wa-msg10.entp.attws.com> I have created a .profile file with the following lines: Export PS1='$:$:>' To see the working directory in my prompt, but it does now work and it displays $:$:> as prompt. How can I make it to work? I have Windows 2000. I don't if that makes difference.. Thanks! Tae. From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Apr 5 15:27:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 15:27:00 -0000 Subject: FW: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem In-Reply-To: <20020405203119.C27469@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Alan, Yup. I just built it with no problems. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Alan Hourihane > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 2:31 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: FW: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem > > > I can remove it - no problem. > > Have you tried building the tree without it first though ? > > Alan. > > On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 02:17:29 -0500, Harold Hunt wrote: > > Here is what Paul had to say. Put together with what Alan said > it sounds > > like __STDC__ will be coming out of StandardDefines. > > > > Alan, do you want to commit this directly, or would you like me > to submit a > > patch? > > > > Harold > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Paul Stodghill [mailto:stodghil@cs.cornell.edu] > > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:53 PM > > To: Harold Hunt > > Subject: RE: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem > > > > > > It's been over a year, but I believe that my reasoning was as follows, > > > > I guess it is not technically a bug. However, the C standard > (or at least > > the c9x draft that I have) says that __STDC__ is a predefined > implementation > > specific macro. The GCC manual discusses how __STDC__ is set > depending upon > > the use of the -traditional flag. I don't believe that it makes > sense to set > > or unset __STDC__ either from the command line or using preprocessor > > directives. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > > > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:32 PM > > > To: Paul Stodghill > > > Cc: cygx > > > Subject: RE: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem > > > > > > > > > I recently stumbled across a message you wrote way back in March 2001: > > > http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200103/msg00082.html > > > > > > I notice that you say that cygwin.cf shouldn't be defining __STDC__ in > > > StandardDefines. I can see that linux.cf and darwin.cf do not define > > > __STDC__ in StandardDefines, but I don't know why we should > > > not be defining > > > it either. > > > > > > A quick and explanation would get this problem quickly > > > remedied (I like to > > > do things correctly, so I'd like to fix this problem). > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Harold > > > > > > From iburrell@znark.com Fri Apr 5 17:05:00 2002 From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 17:05:00 -0000 Subject: Log file for Win2k/Remote Login Screen References: <001f01c1dcf2$5111c540$0100a8c0@mgtnwv.adelphia.net> Message-ID: <3CAE49E8.4030907@znark.com> Marc wrote: > Just a recap, I wasn't getting my remote login window when grabbing a > display from a machine running xdm stuff.. > > Turns out my installation was ok, but there was an old DNS entry associated > with my IP address and it must have been trying some funky reverse look up > stuff before giving me my display. I changed the IP to one with no DNS > entry and everything is fine now. > > I need to figure out how to tunnel these remote displays through ssh or > another type of encryption, but I don't see any possibilities. I don't like > sending my password in the clear via xdmcp. Anyone working with this? > According to the Linux XDMCP howto, it isn't possible to forward XDMCP over SSH because XDMCP uses UDP. You could ssh to the remote system with X forwarding and start the session manually. The X server would be started without any clients or window manager; you might have to adjust authorization to allow the remote machine to connect. - Ian -- iburrell@stanfordalumni.org http://www.znark.com/ From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Apr 5 17:14:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 17:14:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 logged into KDE3 causes strange Cygwin error Message-ID: This is the first time I have every seen anything like this in Cygwin/XFree86. I just installed KDE3 on my Linux box and when I login via XDMCP and run Konsole I get this error message in Windows: --------------------------- Error --------------------------- Failed assertion fds_on_hold != NULL at line 643 of file /cygnus/netrel/src/cygwin-1.3.10-1/winsup/cygwin/dtable.cc --------------------------- OK --------------------------- So far this has happened only when I launch Konsole. Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't crash when this happens, but things seem to get sketchy after it happens a few times. Any ideas? Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Apr 5 17:22:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 17:22:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 logged into KDE3 causes strange Cygwin error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oh yeah, by "sketchy" I meant that after it happens a few times and I switch the focus away from Cygwin/XFree86 two things happen: 1) Cygwin/XFree86 freezes solid. 2) The Windows mouse cursor disappears and the Windows mouse doesn't work until I reboot. The mouse doesn't even start to work again when you press Ctrl+Alt+Del and get the Windows Security box that usually works perfectly even when programs have crashed. Yeah... that's pretty sketchy. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 8:15 PM > To: cygx > Cc: cygwin > Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 logged into KDE3 causes strange Cygwin error > > > This is the first time I have every seen anything like this in > Cygwin/XFree86. > > I just installed KDE3 on my Linux box and when I login via XDMCP and run > Konsole I get this error message in Windows: > > --------------------------- > Error > --------------------------- > Failed assertion > fds_on_hold != NULL > at line 643 of file > /cygnus/netrel/src/cygwin-1.3.10-1/winsup/cygwin/dtable.cc > --------------------------- > OK > --------------------------- > > > So far this has happened only when I launch Konsole. > Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't > crash when this happens, but things seem to get sketchy after it happens a > few times. > > Any ideas? > > Harold > From a1dfulman@aol.com Fri Apr 5 17:57:00 2002 From: a1dfulman@aol.com (GIBSON) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 17:57:00 -0000 Subject: cataloger GPxZbal Message-ID: <200204060157.g361vO592126@jgdesign.net> Below is the result of your feedback form. 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Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't >crash when this happens, but things seem to get sketchy after it happens a >few times. > >Any ideas? It's coming from vfork. Something's stomping on memory that is supposed to hold a copy of the fd table. cgf From cgf@redhat.com Fri Apr 5 22:39:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 22:39:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin/xfree86 logged into KDE3 causes strange cygwin error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020406064002.GG12535@redhat.com> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 08:22:26PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote: >Oh yeah, by "sketchy" I meant that after it happens a few times and I >switch the focus away from Cygwin/XFree86 two things happen: > >1) Cygwin/XFree86 freezes solid. > >2) The Windows mouse cursor disappears and the Windows mouse doesn't >work until I reboot. The mouse doesn't even start to work again when >you press Ctrl+Alt+Del and get the Windows Security box that usually >works perfectly even when programs have crashed. > >Yeah... that's pretty sketchy. It sounds like typical memory overwrite problems. I have never seen that error show up in any other application. I thought I had actually turned off assertions in the released version of cygwin. Guess I was mistaken. There are only two popular users of vfork that I'm aware of: sh and make. It's possible that their needs are simple enough that they're not triggering a cygwin bug that kde is triggering. It's also possible that kde is just doing a plain old fashioned overwriting of memory. It should be fairly simple to figure out what's stomping on the memory but it will have to (obviously?) be done by someone who has kde and feels up to debugging the cygwin DLL. Just watching what happens to cygheap->fdtab.fds_on_hold during a vfork should pinpoint it pretty quickly. cgf From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Sat Apr 6 01:28:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 01:28:00 -0000 Subject: kde 3.0 no icons In-Reply-To: <200204051648.g35GmEx48722@pilot16.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <002801c1dd4d$56e9aea0$066007d5@BRAMSCHE> > I know you say that Cygwin/XFree86 is up-to-date, > but are you running > Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0? You can check by running > 'xdpyinfo' in a local > Cygwin/XFree86 session or in a terminal when you > are logged into another > machine via XDMCP. qt3, which is used by kde3, does not work with the xfree 4.1.x server, so I can confirm, that an update to xfree 4.2.0 is absolutly nesessary. Ralf From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Sat Apr 6 04:31:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 04:31:00 -0000 Subject: Building from CVS Message-ID: Hi, I tried to build from CVS on http://sourceforge.net/projects/xoncygwin using the instructions from http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/prog-build-native.html. I've attached the bzip2'd log file from a standard build.. The summary is that it's failing to build the server binaries. All the .o compilations are showing a warning on alloca redefinition, but not actual errors are shown. Any thoughts? Rob -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: World.log.bz2 Type: application/octet-stream Size: 26650 bytes Desc: World.log.bz2 URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Apr 6 04:49:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 04:49:00 -0000 Subject: Building from CVS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Rob, We forgot to tell you that you have to pull the windows-1-branch, which has that fix. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Robert Collins > Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 7:31 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Building from CVS > > > Hi, > I tried to build from CVS on > http://sourceforge.net/projects/xoncygwin using the instructions from > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/prog-build-native.html. I've attached > the bzip2'd log file from a standard build.. > > The summary is that it's failing to build the server binaries. All the > .o compilations are showing a warning on alloca redefinition, but not > actual errors are shown. > > Any thoughts? > > Rob > From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Sat Apr 6 05:15:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 05:15:00 -0000 Subject: Building from CVS Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 10:49 PM > To: Robert Collins; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: Building from CVS > > > Rob, > > We forgot to tell you that you have to pull the > windows-1-branch, which has that fix. Thanks Harold, I assume it also has the GDI engine improvements, which is what I intend to have a quick eyeball at? Rob From notify@ornis.com Sat Apr 6 05:39:00 2002 From: notify@ornis.com (notify@ornis.com) Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 05:39:00 -0000 Subject: Virus Alert Message-ID: <200204061339.PAA14058@mailgate1.ornis.com> Have detected a virus (WORM_KLEZ.E) in your mail traffic on 04/06/2002 15:39:13 with an action deleted. From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Sat Apr 6 06:04:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 06:04:00 -0000 Subject: Hi, I have question on cygwin configuration. In-Reply-To: <8303A3EE6BF6D411A74300D0B7DF75F3059A4832@wa-msg10.entp.attws.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Lee, Tae wrote: > I have created a .profile file with the following lines: > Export PS1='$:$:>' this should be (at least for bash) export PS1='\h:\w:>' bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4 From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Apr 6 11:45:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 11:45:00 -0000 Subject: Building from CVS Message-ID: <200204061945.g36JjbP64788@pilot20.cl.msu.edu> That is correct. Harold Robert Collins said: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > > Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 10:49 PM > > To: Robert Collins; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: RE: Building from CVS > > > > > > Rob, > > > > We forgot to tell you that you have to pull the > > windows-1-branch, which has that fix. > > Thanks Harold, I assume it also has the GDI engine improvements, which > is what I intend to have a quick eyeball at? > > Rob > From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Sat Apr 6 14:56:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 14:56:00 -0000 Subject: Building from CVS Message-ID: Harold... We're getting places. Found this this time round: make[5]: *** No rule to make target `winrop.o', needed by `libXwin.a' I forgot to re-run the recursive link maker after updating the tag. I'm starting another run now - thanks for the help so far. Rob > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold L Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 5:46 AM > To: Robert Collins; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: Building from CVS > > > That is correct. > > Harold > > Robert Collins said: > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > > > Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 10:49 PM > > > To: Robert Collins; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > > Subject: RE: Building from CVS > > > > > > > > > Rob, > > > > > > We forgot to tell you that you have to pull the > > > windows-1-branch, which has that fix. > > > > Thanks Harold, I assume it also has the GDI engine > improvements, which > > is what I intend to have a quick eyeball at? > > > > Rob > > > > > > From tucker@noodleroni.com Sat Apr 6 18:45:00 2002 From: tucker@noodleroni.com (Tucker McLean) Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 18:45:00 -0000 Subject: cx-logos References: <5497-Fri05Apr2002113432+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk> <20020405170203.GA542@rover.bates-haus.org> <20020405170425.GB13495@redhat.com> <20020405171336.GA692@rover.bates-haus.org> <20020405190727.GA15346@redhat.com> Message-ID: <3CAFB266.6090804@noodleroni.com> Hey, I sure as heck am listening! I got a big ego trip when I read this message. The GIMP .xcf file is attached to this message. Tucker PS: Keep me updated as I am not subscribed to the mailing list Christopher Faylor wrote: >On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:13:37PM -0500, Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote: > >>You're right. I missed the message when it came through; >>http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00234.html >> >>Logo by Tucker McLean; I like it. >> > >Me too. A lot. I don't know if Tucker is still listen, but I'm wondering >if he would like to send just the cygwin logo part. I'd like to use it for >the cygwin stuff. > >In fact, I'd like to use it for Cygwin Setup. > >cgf > >>On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:04:25PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> >>>On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:02:04PM -0500, Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote: >>> >>>>Thanks for taking the time to put these together; I even have a suggestion! >>>> >>>>I agree that a plain "CX" doesn't really convey Cygwin/XFree86; but the >>>>Cygwin logo ( http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/cygwin-icon.gif ) >>>>combined with the X logo ( generally available in >>>>/usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/xlogo64 ) _would_ be clear. >>>> >>>Didn't someone post a really cool 3-d version of the cygwin icon + X a >>>couple of weeks ago? >>> >>>cgf >>> > -- Did you know that Democrats prefer Almond Joy? http://www.noodleroni.com/survey.html Go to http://www.noodleroni.com/ for some free software and other miscellaneous madness. See you there! -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GIT/O d-@ s+: a--- C++ UL++++>$ P+++ L+++ E W++ N+ w--- O PS- PE+ Y+ PGP- R-- tv+ b G- e-> h! ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: xfree.xcf.gz Type: application/x-gzip Size: 197818 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cgf@redhat.com Sat Apr 6 19:48:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 19:48:00 -0000 Subject: cx-logos In-Reply-To: <3CAFB266.6090804@noodleroni.com> References: <5497-Fri05Apr2002113432+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk> <20020405170203.GA542@rover.bates-haus.org> <20020405170425.GB13495@redhat.com> <20020405171336.GA692@rover.bates-haus.org> <20020405190727.GA15346@redhat.com> <3CAFB266.6090804@noodleroni.com> Message-ID: <20020407034853.GA29235@redhat.com> On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 06:43:50PM -0800, Tucker McLean wrote: >Hey, > >I sure as heck am listening! I got a big ego trip when I read this >message. The GIMP .xcf file is attached to this message. This is the dual logo, right? Could you separate out just the Cygwin part? cgf From tucker@noodleroni.com Sat Apr 6 20:09:00 2002 From: tucker@noodleroni.com (Tucker McLean) Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 20:09:00 -0000 Subject: cx-logos References: <5497-Fri05Apr2002113432+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk> <20020405170203.GA542@rover.bates-haus.org> <20020405170425.GB13495@redhat.com> <20020405171336.GA692@rover.bates-haus.org> <20020405190727.GA15346@redhat.com> <3CAFB266.6090804@noodleroni.com> <20020407034853.GA29235@redhat.com> Message-ID: <3CAFC604.5040109@noodleroni.com> Hi, This is a GIMP .xcf file, if you want just the Cygwin part, just use that set of layers. If you would like me to separate them, I'll be happy to do that. Tucker Christopher Faylor wrote: >On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 06:43:50PM -0800, Tucker McLean wrote: > >>Hey, >> >>I sure as heck am listening! I got a big ego trip when I read this >>message. The GIMP .xcf file is attached to this message. >> > >This is the dual logo, right? Could you separate out just the Cygwin >part? > >cgf > -- Did you know that Democrats prefer Almond Joy? http://www.noodleroni.com/survey.html Go to http://www.noodleroni.com/ for some free software and other miscellaneous madness. See you there! -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GIT/O d-@ s+: a--- C++ UL++++>$ P+++ L+++ E W++ N+ w--- O PS- PE+ Y+ PGP- R-- tv+ b G- e-> h! ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From eugenius@dingoblue.net.au Sat Apr 6 23:07:00 2002 From: eugenius@dingoblue.net.au (Eugene Rosenzweig) Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 23:07:00 -0000 Subject: Missing terminfo data in XFree86 4.2.0 References: Message-ID: <036801c1de02$d4206c00$0300a8c0@bluebox> Good observation. I never really missed the xterm entries, but now that you mentioned it, they are not there. I noticed it also because of the handy script from Alan Dobkin (re ncftp missing libs). The original files are in terminfo-5.2-1 package. The setup text (in the Xinstall.sh) states that new termcap entries are needed to take advantage of some new features of xterm, whatever they are. There is a way to generate most of those entries from the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/etc/xterm.termcap: captoinfo /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/etc/xterm.termcap "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/etc/xterm.terminfo", line 90, terminal 'xterm-color': enter_alt_charset_mode but no acs_chars "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/etc/xterm.terminfo", line 90, terminal 'xterm-color': exit_alt_charset_mode but no acs_chars "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/etc/xterm.terminfo", line 144, terminal 'xterm-sco': enter_alt_charset_mode but no acs_chars "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/etc/xterm.terminfo", line 144, terminal 'xterm-sco': exit_alt_charset_mode but no acs_chars These will generate all missing files except for xtermm. Comparing these files to their backed up namesakes shows that they are different. Could these be the files that were intended to be generated originally by setup? I do not know anything about mechanics of xterminfo to be able to go beyond the mechanical regeneration of the files. I am not even sure what the errors mean. Something to do with acsc@ part of the definition which man terminfo mentiones but even then I am not sure what the manpage is talking about. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael" To: Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 12:48 AM Subject: Missing terminfo data in XFree86 4.2.0 > Hi > > I ran into the following problem with the current XFree86 distribution, but > could not find any mention of any solution here or elsewhere. > > SYMPTOMS > -------- > * "vt102" terminal setting (TERM) in xterm windows instead of "xterm" > * "WARNING: terminal is not fully functional" error messages from /bin/les s > * Missing /usr/share/terminfo/x/xterm and other terminfo data files > > CAUSE > ----- > 1. The current XFree86 for Cygwin distribution is missing the file > xterm.terminfo (but not xterm.termcap) in Xlib.tgz. (However this is > not true for other distributions, eg FreeBSD.) It is missing in the > distribution available from the Cygwin mirrors and the distribution > available directly from XFree86. > 2. After unpacking the distribution files, the script Xinstall.sh asks the > user whether to update the terminfo entries. The default is no, but the > blurb notes that new features will be unavailable otherwise. > > If the user says yes: > 3. The script moves a number of existing terminfo entries to *.bak > 4. The script tries to run tic on /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/etc/xterm.terminfo to > replace them > 5. Since this file is not present, tic fails > 6. The following terminfo files are subsequently effectively missing: xterm, > xterms, xterm-24, xterm-vi, xterm-65, xterm-bold, xtermm, xterm-boldso, > xterm-ic, xterm-r6, xterm-old, xterm-r5, vs100 > > INTERIM SOLUTIONS > ----------------- > During install (pre-emptive): > * Do not elect to update terminfo entries > After install (treatment): > * Setting the TERM variable to another value such as cygwin or ansi is > a temporary workaround > * Moving the renamed files back to their original names reverses the > damage ("mv xterm.bak xterm" etc) > > DISTRIBUTION FIX? > ----------------- > Include the file or change the installation script > > QUESTIONS > --------- > * Is there some reason xterm.terminfo is missing, or is this an error? > * Is it possible to use e.g. the FreeBSD distribution's xterm.terminfo file? > * Is it advised against updating the terminfo data? > * If so, then what about updating termcap entries (suggested by Xinstall.h)? > * What is lost by not using the new terminfo data? > > Thanks > Michael > From eugenius@dingoblue.net.au Sat Apr 6 23:33:00 2002 From: eugenius@dingoblue.net.au (Eugene Rosenzweig) Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 23:33:00 -0000 Subject: cx-logos References: <5497-Fri05Apr2002113432+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk> <20020405170203.GA542@rover.bates-haus.org> <20020405170425.GB13495@redhat.com> <20020405171336.GA692@rover.bates-haus.org> Message-ID: <042901c1de06$8ff14b90$0300a8c0@bluebox> It is a good point that maybe just CX is not enough and it should be Cygwin + X logos but nupur's logo is also much easier on the eye than Chris's. Vivid red and green on a bright blue background - that is violent on the eyes. Long ago in the time of eight-color displays there were no other options but now we have more range to work with. Maybe some sort of compromise between the two? Nupur's color scheme was simple but, I thought, good. From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Sun Apr 7 00:03:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 00:03:00 -0000 Subject: X11/Xlib.h not found? Message-ID: Does the build recipe expect the X11 headers to be installed? The following is a sample error (there are many similar ones) indicating that X11/Xlib.h is not found, and I not thate /usr/X11R6/include is in the include path. I don't have X currently installed. If it needs those headers, and installing them is a safe bet, then I'm happy to do that. It does seem strange to me that it looks at system headers though.. Rob ==== rm -f wincutpaste.o gcc -c -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -Wpointer-arith -I. -I../../../../expor ts/include/X11 -I../../../../include/fonts -I../../../../programs/Xserve r/fb -I../../../../programs/Xserver/mi -I../../../../programs/Xserver/miext/ shadow -I../../../../programs/Xserver/miext/layer -I../../../../program s/Xserver/include -I../../../../programs/Xserver/os -I../../../../in clude/extensions -I../../../../exports/include/X11 -I../../../../program s/Xserver/render -I../../../../programs/Xserver/randr -I../../../.. -I../../../ ../exports/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -D__i386__ -DWIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN -DX_LO CALE -D_X86_ -D__STDC__ -DNO_TCP_H -D__CYGWIN__ -D_XOPEN_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURC E=199309L -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -DNO_ALLOCA -DSHAPE -DXINPU T -DXKB -DLBX -DXAPPGROUP -DXCSECURITY -DTOGCUP -DXF86BIGFONT -DRENDER -DR ANDR -DGCCUSESGAS -DAVOID_GLYPHBLT -DPIXPRIV -DSINGLEDEPTH -DXvExtension -DXFr ee86Server -DXF86VIDMODE -DXvMCExtension -DX_BYTE_ORDER=X_LITTLE_ENDIAN -DNDE BUG -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -DAVOID_GLYPHBLT -DPIXPRIV -DSINGLEDEPTH -D XvExtension -DXFree86Server -DXF86VIDMODE -DXvMCExtension -DX_BYTE_ORDER=X_L ITTLE_ENDIAN -DDDXTIME -DFD_SETSIZE=256 -DDDXOSINIT -DDDXOSVERRORF -DDDXOSFATALE RROR -DHAS_MMAP -UXFree86LOADER -UXF86DRI wincutpaste.c wincutpaste.c:50: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory make[5]: *** [wincutpaste.o] Error 1 From saunup@hotmail.com Sun Apr 7 00:24:00 2002 From: saunup@hotmail.com (Nupur Saurabh) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 00:24:00 -0000 Subject: cx-logos References: <20020405120108.61875.qmail@web20805.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: hi all, i made some changes as per suggestion. these are modified from the previous logo4.jpg. i made, with 'C' with arrow as cygwin banner has. http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_6.jpg http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_7.jpg these are logo with cygwin c with arrow and 'X' as in www.x.org. http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_8.jpg http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_9.jpg But Brian i'm not sure about copyright issue. suggestion and comments are welcome. nupur ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Genisio" To: "Alexander Gottwald" ; "Saurabh Nupur" Cc: Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 4:01 AM Subject: Re: cx-logos > Yes, I like this one the best as well. I believe it is very important to > convey that this is a port of the XFree86 software. This logo does it well > with it's "86". Might I suggest also incorporating some identification of > Cygwin? There are two logos I have seen (www.cygwin.com), the one that looks > like a copyright symbol with an arrow, and the BlackAndGreen, ugly Cygwin icon. > Possibly, you can incorporate one of those feels? > > Also, have you seen the X logo? (Open the X server, and run xlogo.exe) This is > kind of a standard X-windows protocol logo. You might want to incorporate that > somehow. > > Just my 2 cents, > Brian > > --- Alexander Gottwald wrote: > > On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Saurabh Nupur wrote: > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_4.jpg > > > > I like this one. > > > > bye > > ago > > -- > > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > > phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Sun Apr 7 05:10:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 05:10:00 -0000 Subject: Missing file for libexpat.dll Message-ID: Hi, The file expat-def.cpp which is needed for building libexpat.dll on cygwin is missing. I attached a file with all exports from the object files. 2002-04-07 Alexander Gottwald * expat-def.cpp (new): Export definitions for building libexpat.dll -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4 -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: expat-def.cpp URL: From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Sun Apr 7 05:24:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 05:24:00 -0000 Subject: Missing file for libfontconfig.dll Message-ID: Hi, The file fontconfig-def.cpp which is needed for building libfontconfig.dll on cygwin is missing. I attached a file with all exports from the object files. 2002-04-07 Alexander Gottwald * fontconfig-def.cpp (new): Export definitions for building libfontconfig.dll -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4 -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: fontconfig-def.cpp URL: From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Sun Apr 7 07:18:00 2002 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 07:18:00 -0000 Subject: FW: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem In-Reply-To: <20020405203119.C27469@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Alan Hourihane wrote: > I can remove it - no problem. > > Have you tried building the tree without it first though ? I've removed the __STDC__ define a long time ago (shortly after gcc3.0 was out, which complained the redefine) and had no problems without it. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4 From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Apr 7 20:18:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 20:18:00 -0000 Subject: cx-logos In-Reply-To: <3CAFB266.6090804@noodleroni.com> Message-ID: Tucker, It would be best if you didn't send 193 KB attachments to the entire mailing list (I don't know how many people that is, but it could be a few hundred). If you need to send a file to others, try to upload the file to a web site or ftp site and post a link to the file in your message. If you don't have a web site or ftp site to do this with, email the file to me and I'll post it to a site for you. Thanks, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Tucker McLean > Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 9:44 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: cx-logos > > > Hey, > > I sure as heck am listening! I got a big ego trip when I read this > message. The GIMP .xcf file is attached to this message. > > Tucker > > PS: Keep me updated as I am not subscribed to the mailing list > > Christopher Faylor wrote: > > >On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:13:37PM -0500, Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote: > > > >>You're right. I missed the message when it came through; > >>http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00234.html > >> > >>Logo by Tucker McLean; I like it. > >> > > > >Me too. A lot. I don't know if Tucker is still listen, but I'm > wondering > >if he would like to send just the cygwin logo part. I'd like to > use it for > >the cygwin stuff. > > > >In fact, I'd like to use it for Cygwin Setup. > > > >cgf > > > >>On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:04:25PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >> > >>>On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:02:04PM -0500, Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote: > >>> > >>>>Thanks for taking the time to put these together; I even have > a suggestion! > >>>> > >>>>I agree that a plain "CX" doesn't really convey > Cygwin/XFree86; but the > >>>>Cygwin logo ( http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/cygwin-icon.gif ) > >>>>combined with the X logo ( generally available in > >>>>/usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/xlogo64 ) _would_ be clear. > >>>> > >>>Didn't someone post a really cool 3-d version of the cygwin icon + X a > >>>couple of weeks ago? > >>> > >>>cgf > >>> > > > > -- > Did you know that Democrats prefer Almond Joy? > http://www.noodleroni.com/survey.html > > Go to http://www.noodleroni.com/ for some free software and other > miscellaneous madness. See you there! > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.1 > GIT/O d-@ s+: a--- C++ UL++++>$ P+++ L+++ E W++ N+ w--- O PS- PE+ Y+ PGP- > R-- tv+ b G- e-> h! > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Apr 7 20:20:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 20:20:00 -0000 Subject: X11/Xlib.h not found? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Rob, Yes, the cut down tree depends on the installed headers because building the headers requires building the libraries, which the BuildServersOnly (or something like that) flag does. We only build the servers because it keeps the builds quick. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Robert Collins > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 4:04 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: X11/Xlib.h not found? > > > Does the build recipe expect the X11 headers to be installed? The > following is a sample error (there are many similar ones) indicating > that X11/Xlib.h is not found, and I not thate /usr/X11R6/include is in > the include path. I don't have X currently installed. > > If it needs those headers, and installing them is a safe bet, then I'm > happy to do that. It does seem strange to me that it looks at system > headers though.. > > > Rob > > > > ==== > > rm -f wincutpaste.o > gcc -c -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -Wpointer-arith -I. > -I../../../../expor > ts/include/X11 -I../../../../include/fonts > -I../../../../programs/Xserve > r/fb -I../../../../programs/Xserver/mi > -I../../../../programs/Xserver/miext/ > shadow -I../../../../programs/Xserver/miext/layer > -I../../../../program > s/Xserver/include -I../../../../programs/Xserver/os > -I../../../../in > clude/extensions -I../../../../exports/include/X11 > -I../../../../program > s/Xserver/render -I../../../../programs/Xserver/randr -I../../../.. > -I../../../ > ../exports/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -D__i386__ > -DWIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN -DX_LO > CALE -D_X86_ -D__STDC__ -DNO_TCP_H -D__CYGWIN__ -D_XOPEN_SOURCE > -D_POSIX_C_SOURC > E=199309L -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -DNO_ALLOCA -DSHAPE > -DXINPU > T -DXKB -DLBX -DXAPPGROUP -DXCSECURITY -DTOGCUP -DXF86BIGFONT > -DRENDER -DR > ANDR -DGCCUSESGAS -DAVOID_GLYPHBLT -DPIXPRIV -DSINGLEDEPTH > -DXvExtension -DXFr > ee86Server -DXF86VIDMODE -DXvMCExtension > -DX_BYTE_ORDER=X_LITTLE_ENDIAN -DNDE > BUG -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -DAVOID_GLYPHBLT -DPIXPRIV > -DSINGLEDEPTH -D > XvExtension -DXFree86Server -DXF86VIDMODE -DXvMCExtension > -DX_BYTE_ORDER=X_L > ITTLE_ENDIAN -DDDXTIME -DFD_SETSIZE=256 -DDDXOSINIT -DDDXOSVERRORF > -DDDXOSFATALE > RROR -DHAS_MMAP -UXFree86LOADER -UXF86DRI wincutpaste.c > wincutpaste.c:50: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory > make[5]: *** [wincutpaste.o] Error 1 From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Apr 7 20:21:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 20:21:00 -0000 Subject: cx-logos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nupur, I like these... keep it up. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Nupur Saurabh > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 4:38 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Cc: Brian Genisio > Subject: Re: cx-logos > > > hi all, > i made some changes as per suggestion. > > these are modified from the previous logo4.jpg. > i made, with 'C' with arrow as cygwin banner has. > > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_6.jpg > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_7.jpg > > these are logo with cygwin c with arrow and 'X' as in www.x.org. > > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_8.jpg > > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_9.jpg > > But Brian i'm not sure about copyright issue. > > suggestion and comments are welcome. > > nupur > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Genisio" > To: "Alexander Gottwald" ; > "Saurabh Nupur" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 4:01 AM > Subject: Re: cx-logos > > > > Yes, I like this one the best as well. I believe it is very > important to > > convey that this is a port of the XFree86 software. This logo does it > well > > with it's "86". Might I suggest also incorporating some > identification of > > Cygwin? There are two logos I have seen (www.cygwin.com), the one that > looks > > like a copyright symbol with an arrow, and the BlackAndGreen, > ugly Cygwin > icon. > > Possibly, you can incorporate one of those feels? > > > > Also, have you seen the X logo? (Open the X server, and run xlogo.exe) > This is > > kind of a standard X-windows protocol logo. You might want to > incorporate > that > > somehow. > > > > Just my 2 cents, > > Brian > > > > --- Alexander Gottwald > wrote: > > > On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Saurabh Nupur wrote: > > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_4.jpg > > > > > > I like this one. > > > > > > bye > > > ago > > > -- > > > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > > > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > > > phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax > > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > > From cgf@redhat.com Sun Apr 7 20:22:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 20:22:00 -0000 Subject: cx-logos In-Reply-To: References: <3CAFB266.6090804@noodleroni.com> Message-ID: <20020408032249.GA2908@redhat.com> On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 11:18:12PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: >It would be best if you didn't send 193 KB attachments to the entire mailing >list (I don't know how many people that is, but it could be a few hundred). 518, actually! Wow. That includes 122 who are subscribed to the digest. cgf From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Apr 7 20:22:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 20:22:00 -0000 Subject: cx-logos In-Reply-To: <3CAFC604.5040109@noodleroni.com> Message-ID: Tucker, Oh yeah, I also like your work too. Keep it up. Hopefully we'll be able to get some new icons soon. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Tucker McLean > Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 11:08 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: cx-logos > > > Hi, > > This is a GIMP .xcf file, if you want just the Cygwin part, just use > that set of layers. If you would like me to separate them, I'll be happy > to do that. > > Tucker > > Christopher Faylor wrote: > > >On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 06:43:50PM -0800, Tucker McLean wrote: > > > >>Hey, > >> > >>I sure as heck am listening! I got a big ego trip when I read this > >>message. The GIMP .xcf file is attached to this message. > >> > > > >This is the dual logo, right? Could you separate out just the Cygwin > >part? > > > >cgf > > > > -- > Did you know that Democrats prefer Almond Joy? > http://www.noodleroni.com/survey.html > > Go to http://www.noodleroni.com/ for some free software and other > miscellaneous madness. See you there! > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.1 > GIT/O d-@ s+: a--- C++ UL++++>$ P+++ L+++ E W++ N+ w--- O PS- PE+ Y+ PGP- > R-- tv+ b G- e-> h! > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Apr 7 20:25:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 20:25:00 -0000 Subject: FW: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My mouse problems were due to my mouse getting flaky at exactly the same time as I tested the removal of the __STDC__ flag. The mouse has since completely given up the ghost, so I know that no problems were caused by removing the __STDC__ flag. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Alexander Gottwald > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 10:19 AM > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: FW: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem > > > On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > I can remove it - no problem. > > > > Have you tried building the tree without it first though ? > > I've removed the __STDC__ define a long time ago (shortly after gcc3.0 > was out, which complained the redefine) and had no problems without it. > > bye > ago > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 > 4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4 > From tucker@noodleroni.com Sun Apr 7 22:07:00 2002 From: tucker@noodleroni.com (Tucker McLean) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 22:07:00 -0000 Subject: cx-logos References: Message-ID: <3CB12525.6020300@noodleroni.com> Sorry about the attachment, it could have been worse. I almost forgot to gzip it, and it would have been over 1 MB. Thank goodness I didn't forget. BTW, what kind of icons for which applications are you looking for? I'd be happy to do up some of those too. Also, which size and color depth? Harold Hunt wrote: >Tucker, > >It would be best if you didn't send 193 KB attachments to the entire mailing >list (I don't know how many people that is, but it could be a few hundred). > >If you need to send a file to others, try to upload the file to a web site >or ftp site and post a link to the file in your message. If you don't have >a web site or ftp site to do this with, email the file to me and I'll post >it to a site for you. > >Thanks, > >Harold > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com >>[mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Tucker McLean >>Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 9:44 PM >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >>Subject: Re: cx-logos >> >> >>Hey, >> >>I sure as heck am listening! I got a big ego trip when I read this >>message. The GIMP .xcf file is attached to this message. >> >>Tucker >> >>PS: Keep me updated as I am not subscribed to the mailing list >> >>Christopher Faylor wrote: >> >>>On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:13:37PM -0500, Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote: >>> >>>>You're right. I missed the message when it came through; >>>>http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00234.html >>>> >>>>Logo by Tucker McLean; I like it. >>>> >>>Me too. A lot. I don't know if Tucker is still listen, but I'm >>> >>wondering >> >>>if he would like to send just the cygwin logo part. I'd like to >>> >>use it for >> >>>the cygwin stuff. >>> >>>In fact, I'd like to use it for Cygwin Setup. >>> >>>cgf >>> >>>>On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:04:25PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:02:04PM -0500, Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Thanks for taking the time to put these together; I even have >>>>>> >>a suggestion! >> >>>>>>I agree that a plain "CX" doesn't really convey >>>>>> >>Cygwin/XFree86; but the >> >>>>>>Cygwin logo ( http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/cygwin-icon.gif ) >>>>>>combined with the X logo ( generally available in >>>>>>/usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/xlogo64 ) _would_ be clear. >>>>>> >>>>>Didn't someone post a really cool 3-d version of the cygwin icon + X a >>>>>couple of weeks ago? >>>>> >>>>>cgf >>>>> >>-- >>Did you know that Democrats prefer Almond Joy? >>http://www.noodleroni.com/survey.html >> >>Go to http://www.noodleroni.com/ for some free software and other >>miscellaneous madness. See you there! >> >>-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- >>Version: 3.1 >>GIT/O d-@ s+: a--- C++ UL++++>$ P+++ L+++ E W++ N+ w--- O PS- PE+ Y+ PGP- >>R-- tv+ b G- e-> h! >>------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ >> >> >> > > -- Did you know that Democrats prefer Almond Joy? http://www.noodleroni.com/survey.html Go to http://www.noodleroni.com/ for some free software and other miscellaneous madness. See you there! -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GIT/O d-@ s+: a--- C++ UL++++>$ P+++ L+++ E W++ N+ w--- O PS- PE+ Y+ PGP- R-- tv+ b G- e-> h! ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Sun Apr 7 23:03:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 23:03:00 -0000 Subject: Native GDI Message-ID: Just a question: how does X cope with region invalidate - say with the Xnest engine? I'm wondering how the native GDI engine will handle having regions invalidated by win32 apps in front of it, without an off-screen buffer. Rob From edi@serbski-institut.de Sun Apr 7 23:55:00 2002 From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 23:55:00 -0000 Subject: cx-logos In-Reply-To: <20020405171336.GA692@rover.bates-haus.org> References: <20020405170203.GA542@rover.bates-haus.org> <20020405170425.GB13495@redhat.com> <20020405171336.GA692@rover.bates-haus.org> Message-ID: <20020408.085037.74722959.edi@serbski-institut.de> From: nik@bates-haus.org (Nikolaus Bates-Haus) Subject: Re: cx-logos Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 12:13:37 -0500 > http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00234.html > > Logo by Tucker McLean; I like it. Yes, that's a nice one. From edi@serbski-institut.de Mon Apr 8 00:06:00 2002 From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 00:06:00 -0000 Subject: cx-logos In-Reply-To: References: <20020405120108.61875.qmail@web20805.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020408.090554.41664510.edi@serbski-institut.de> From: "Nupur Saurabh" Subject: Re: cx-logos Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 00:38:21 -0800 > hi all, > i made some changes as per suggestion. > > these are modified from the previous logo4.jpg. > i made, with 'C' with arrow as cygwin banner has. > > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_6.jpg > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_7.jpg > > these are logo with cygwin c with arrow and 'X' as in www.x.org. > > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_8.jpg > > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_9.jpg > Hmmm, these are nice, too, I just find the c and the X too small and the green background square too big and dominating (it's even stressed by the thick border). Cheers Edi From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 8 01:04:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 01:04:00 -0000 Subject: Native GDI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020408080447.GA1149@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:03:40 +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > Just a question: how does X cope with region invalidate - say with the > Xnest engine? I'm wondering how the native GDI engine will handle having > regions invalidated by win32 apps in front of it, without an off-screen > buffer. > I believe WM_PAINT is our friend here. Then we can issue the X calls inside the server to repaint the region(s). Alan. From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Mon Apr 8 01:07:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 01:07:00 -0000 Subject: Native GDI Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 6:05 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Native GDI > > > On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:03:40 +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > > Just a question: how does X cope with region invalidate - > say with the > > Xnest engine? I'm wondering how the native GDI engine will handle > > having regions invalidated by win32 apps in front of it, without an > > off-screen buffer. > > > I believe WM_PAINT is our friend here. Then we can issue the > X calls inside the server to repaint the region(s). Yes, that's the mechanics of getting alerted... but unless we have a backing store, we need to issue Expose events to the X clients (which is a potential performance issue). Rob From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Mon Apr 8 01:12:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 01:12:00 -0000 Subject: rootless mode Message-ID: I've been thinking about rootless mode. Here's my current thoughts: 1) We create a real win32 window for each X window. 2) We use SetWindowLong to store the X window pointer in the WIN32 struct, so that when a message arrives to that windowclass's WindowProc, we can lookup the X window the message belongs to. 3) We use WindowPrivates to store the WIN32 related window HANDLE and other gunk. I don't know how we go about telling X it's rootless - Alan, I'm hoping you can jump in here and say 'do X, Y and Z'. Anyway, whilst I won't have time to be a significant contributor, I hope to have a proof-of-concept patch against the Native GDI engine shortly. Rob From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 8 01:16:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 01:16:00 -0000 Subject: Native GDI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020408081627.GB1149@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 06:07:51 +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk] > > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 6:05 PM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: Re: Native GDI > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:03:40 +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > > > Just a question: how does X cope with region invalidate - > > say with the > > > Xnest engine? I'm wondering how the native GDI engine will handle > > > having regions invalidated by win32 apps in front of it, without an > > > off-screen buffer. > > > > > I believe WM_PAINT is our friend here. Then we can issue the > > X calls inside the server to repaint the region(s). > > Yes, that's the mechanics of getting alerted... but unless we have a > backing store, we need to issue Expose events to the X clients (which is > a potential performance issue). > Correct. At the moment I don't care about performance in the Native GDI server. That'll come later. There are many bugs and unimplemented functions to do first. Alan. From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 8 01:21:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 01:21:00 -0000 Subject: rootless mode In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020408082104.GC1149@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 06:12:33 +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > I've been thinking about rootless mode. > > Here's my current thoughts: > > 1) We create a real win32 window for each X window. > 2) We use SetWindowLong to store the X window pointer in the WIN32 > struct, so that when a message arrives to that windowclass's WindowProc, > we can lookup the X window the message belongs to. > 3) We use WindowPrivates to store the WIN32 related window HANDLE and > other gunk. > > I don't know how we go about telling X it's rootless - Alan, I'm hoping > you can jump in here and say 'do X, Y and Z'. > > Anyway, whilst I won't have time to be a significant contributor, I hope > to have a proof-of-concept patch against the Native GDI engine shortly. > Robert, I agree with your above suggestions, but we are still a way off doing anything 'rootless' yet. We need a fully functional native GDI server, which it currently isn't and there's still many bugs. Again, I'm not too worried about performance until we are fully functional. Once we have a Native GDI server and it passes the xtest suite then, we should start looking at 'rootless' modes, but feel free to continue down your path. I just don't want to clutter up code yet with something else until we're done with a primary objective. And I certainly don't want my focus to change to anything else yet. Alan. From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Mon Apr 8 01:28:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 01:28:00 -0000 Subject: rootless mode Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 6:21 PM > Robert, > > I agree with your above suggestions, but we are still a way > off doing anything 'rootless' yet. We need a fully functional > native GDI server, which it currently isn't and there's still > many bugs. Again, I'm not too worried about performance until > we are fully functional. That's cool. I am new to the X codebase, so knowing that I'm on a generally ok track is all I needed. > Once we have a Native GDI server and it passes the xtest > suite then, we should start looking at 'rootless' modes, but > feel free to continue down your path. I just don't want to > clutter up code yet with something else until we're done with > a primary objective. And I certainly don't want my focus to > change to anything else yet. That's not a problem. I'll #define all the rootless related changes as such. And I'm not asking your focus to change! My initial goal is to prove the concept, and then depending on time constraints, I'll either *) work with you and Harold to get an acceptable patch ready *) maintain the patch every week or two but not try to get it included. *) drop the patch to the list, for posterity, and forget the whole thing Given the amount of interest here in rootless mode, I (naively) assume that if something functional can be shown we may see some folk actively helping. I also suspect that my recent adventures in building will help, as they allow Harolds doco + the archives to get folk building the test server. Rob From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 8 01:31:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 01:31:00 -0000 Subject: rootless mode In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020408083150.GE1149@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 06:28:23 +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > > Once we have a Native GDI server and it passes the xtest > > suite then, we should start looking at 'rootless' modes, but > > feel free to continue down your path. I just don't want to > > clutter up code yet with something else until we're done with > > a primary objective. And I certainly don't want my focus to > > change to anything else yet. > > That's not a problem. I'll #define all the rootless related changes as > such. And I'm not asking your focus to change! > Sorry Robert, I don't mean to put you off doing this work. It's much appreciated for anyone else to help out ! > My initial goal is to prove the concept, and then depending on time > constraints, I'll either > *) work with you and Harold to get an acceptable patch ready > *) maintain the patch every week or two but not try to get it included. > *) drop the patch to the list, for posterity, and forget the whole thing > > Given the amount of interest here in rootless mode, I (naively) assume > that if something functional can be shown we may see some folk actively > helping. I also suspect that my recent adventures in building will help, > as they allow Harolds doco + the archives to get folk building the test > server. > That's good. I'll look forward to seeing your patch. Thanks. Alan. From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Mon Apr 8 04:40:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 04:40:00 -0000 Subject: rootless mode Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 6:32 PM > > That's not a problem. I'll #define all the rootless related > changes as > > such. And I'm not asking your focus to change! > > > Sorry Robert, I don't mean to put you off doing this work. No fear, I'm rather thick skinned. > It's much appreciated for anyone else to help out ! Yeah, it can be a shock eh :}. Rob From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Apr 8 04:54:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 04:54:00 -0000 Subject: FW: kde 3.0 no icons Message-ID: Scott forgot to cc the list on this. Harold -----Original Message----- From: Scott Alexander [mailto:salexander@taz.qinetiq.com] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:21 AM To: Harold L Hunt Subject: Re: kde 3.0 no icons Hi Harold, Yes I am running the latest version of Cygwin/XFree86 its 4.2.0. Cheers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold L Hunt" To: "Scott Alexander" ; Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 5:48 PM Subject: Re: kde 3.0 no icons > Scott, > > That doesn't sound good. > > I haven't yet installed KDE 3.0 and I won't have time to for at least a week, > so I won't have a chance to look into this for some time. > > I know you say that Cygwin/XFree86 is up-to-date, but are you running > Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0? You can check by running 'xdpyinfo' in a local > Cygwin/XFree86 session or in a terminal when you are logged into another > machine via XDMCP. > > Awaiting a chance to investiage this, > > Harold > > Scott Alexander said: > > > Hi, > > > > My server has just been upgraded to kde 3.0 running redhat 7.2. I use = > > cygwin with xfree86 to connect to this server using > > > > x -query > > > > I have been doing this for a while with kde 2.2.2 with no problems. = > > However when i connect to it now with kde 3 my screen has no icons or = > > icons on the kicker bar at the bottom. =20 > > > > Does anyone know of this problem and a solution for it. > > > > My machine runs w2k with up 2 date cygwin and xfree86. > > > > Cheers > > > > Scott Alexander > > > > > > > From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Mon Apr 8 06:42:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 06:42:00 -0000 Subject: X11/Xlib.h not found? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:20 PM > To: Robert Collins; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: X11/Xlib.h not found? > > > Rob, > > Yes, the cut down tree depends on the installed headers > because building the headers requires building the libraries, > which the BuildServersOnly (or something like that) flag > does. We only build the servers because it keeps the builds quick. Thanks Harold, that was the key. Are you interested in a patch to change remove most of the static vars from the WindowProcRoutine, and replace them with a lookup into the WindowPrivRec? This is essential for rootless mode (and in some respects the most instrusive code change), and also helps keep things clean for running multiple screens in the future... Rob From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 8 06:45:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 06:45:00 -0000 Subject: X11/Xlib.h not found? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020408134515.GI1149@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:42:15 +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > Are you interested in a patch to change remove most of the static vars > from the WindowProcRoutine, and replace them with a lookup into the > WindowPrivRec? > > This is essential for rootless mode (and in some respects the most > instrusive code change), and also helps keep things clean for running > multiple screens in the future... > Rob, submit away ! Alan. From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Mon Apr 8 06:58:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 06:58:00 -0000 Subject: X11/Xlib.h not found? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:45 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: X11/Xlib.h not found? > > > On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:42:15 +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > > Are you interested in a patch to change remove most of the > static vars > > from the WindowProcRoutine, and replace them with a lookup into the > > WindowPrivRec? > > > > This is essential for rootless mode (and in some respects the most > > instrusive code change), and also helps keep things clean > for running > > multiple screens in the future... > > > Rob, > > submit away ! I'll see what I can do. There is a chance that I can't do it correctly without removing the bounding window - if that's the case then I'll simply leave this is my working dir for now. Rob From xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz Mon Apr 8 07:27:00 2002 From: xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz (David Komanek) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 07:27:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree and OpenGL In-Reply-To: <1018275606.7709.ezmlm@cygwin.com> Message-ID: Hi, sorry to vaste your time, but please, can me somebody explain how to use the OpenGL support in Xfree ? I have installed the complete cygwin distribution (includes opengl libraries), downloaded and installed complete Xfree. It works fine with classical X-servers. However, connecting to SGI workstation, many of its graphical apps don't work. Have I edit /etc/X11/XftConfig some way to get the OpenGL libraries loaded ? Is there some OpenGL application ported for CygWin to test the functionality localy ? Latest versions of CygWin and Xfree (downloaded just today), Windows 2000 Pro SP2. Thanks in advance for any help, David Komanek From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Mon Apr 8 08:19:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 08:19:00 -0000 Subject: rootless mode In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c1df10$be7bcde0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf > Of Robert Collins > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:13 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: rootless mode > > > I've been thinking about rootless mode. > > Here's my current thoughts: > > 1) We create a real win32 window for each X window. > 2) We use SetWindowLong to store the X window > pointer in the WIN32 > struct, so that when a message arrives to that > windowclass's WindowProc, > we can lookup the X window the message belongs to. > 3) We use WindowPrivates to store the WIN32 > related window HANDLE and > other gunk. It may be that you already know this, but do you have seen the links about the ntxlib (and perhaps the libw11 project) on http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/. The rxvt port is based on this stuff. There is a basic implementation of creating windows within a x client lib. Perhaps you can use it for your goal. Regards Ralf From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Apr 8 08:26:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 08:26:00 -0000 Subject: X11/Xlib.h not found? Message-ID: <200204081526.g38FQkP64788@pilot20.cl.msu.edu> Yes, that is essential. Submit away, as Alan said. Harold Robert Collins said: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:20 PM > > To: Robert Collins; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: RE: X11/Xlib.h not found? > > > > > > Rob, > > > > Yes, the cut down tree depends on the installed headers > > because building the headers requires building the libraries, > > which the BuildServersOnly (or something like that) flag > > does. We only build the servers because it keeps the builds quick. > > Thanks Harold, that was the key. > > Are you interested in a patch to change remove most of the static vars > from the WindowProcRoutine, and replace them with a lookup into the > WindowPrivRec? > > This is essential for rootless mode (and in some respects the most > instrusive code change), and also helps keep things clean for running > multiple screens in the future... > > Rob > From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Apr 8 08:36:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 08:36:00 -0000 Subject: rootless mode Message-ID: <200204081535.g38FZwP35610@pilot20.cl.msu.edu> Ralf, In a single word, the ntxlib project is "worthless" as far as Cygwin/XFree86 is concerned. There are a few functions, such as line drawing, where looking at how ntxlib calls the GDI function may be interesting, but the data structures and overall architecture of ntxlib (and libw11) are completely different than Cygwin/XFree86 and, in my opinion, not applicable at all to our situation. Thanks for mentioning it though... it doesn't hurt to have a look at new things, Harold Ralf Habacker said: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf > > Of Robert Collins > > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:13 AM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: rootless mode > > > > > > I've been thinking about rootless mode. > > > > Here's my current thoughts: > > > > 1) We create a real win32 window for each X window. > > 2) We use SetWindowLong to store the X window > > pointer in the WIN32 > > struct, so that when a message arrives to that > > windowclass's WindowProc, > > we can lookup the X window the message belongs to. > > 3) We use WindowPrivates to store the WIN32 > > related window HANDLE and > > other gunk. > > It may be that you already know this, but do you have seen > the links about the ntxlib (and perhaps the libw11 project) > on http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/. > The rxvt port is based on this stuff. There is a basic > implementation of creating windows within a x client lib. > Perhaps you can use it for your goal. > > Regards > Ralf > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Apr 8 08:39:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 08:39:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree and OpenGL Message-ID: <200204081539.g38FdpP11254@pilot20.cl.msu.edu> David, Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't have OpenGL, it has Mesa. You can run 'xdpyinfo' in Cygwin/XFree86 and look for the GLX and SGI-GLX extensions. Both of those should be present in a default installation. I'm not sure if Mesa is completely compatible with OpenGL apps on SGI... you'll have to find that out for yourself or hope that someone on the list with an SGI machine answers. Harold David Komanek said: > > Hi, > > sorry to vaste your time, but please, can me somebody explain how to use > the OpenGL support in Xfree ? I have installed the complete cygwin > distribution (includes opengl libraries), downloaded and installed > complete Xfree. It works fine with classical X-servers. However, > connecting to SGI workstation, many of its graphical apps don't work. > > Have I edit /etc/X11/XftConfig some way to get the OpenGL libraries loaded > ? > > Is there some OpenGL application ported for CygWin to test the > functionality localy ? > > Latest versions of CygWin and Xfree (downloaded just today), Windows 2000 > Pro SP2. > > Thanks in advance for any help, > > David Komanek > > From iburrell@stanfordalumni.org Mon Apr 8 12:29:00 2002 From: iburrell@stanfordalumni.org (Ian Burrell) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 12:29:00 -0000 Subject: rootless mode References: Message-ID: <3CB1EFA4.50204@stanfordalumni.org> Robert Collins wrote: > I've been thinking about rootless mode. > > Here's my current thoughts: > > 1) We create a real win32 window for each X window. I think we only need a Win32 window for each top-level X window. > 2) We use SetWindowLong to store the X window pointer in the WIN32 > struct, so that when a message arrives to that windowclass's WindowProc, > we can lookup the X window the message belongs to. > 3) We use WindowPrivates to store the WIN32 related window HANDLE and > other gunk. > > I don't know how we go about telling X it's rootless - Alan, I'm hoping > you can jump in here and say 'do X, Y and Z'. > > Anyway, whilst I won't have time to be a significant contributor, I hope > to have a proof-of-concept patch against the Native GDI engine shortly. > It would be nice if the rootless mode was orthogonal to the engine. I think this is doable. For the shadow modes, the image is blitted from the framebuffer into the individual windows instead of the screen window. I can see problems with X and Win32 having different ideas about clipping and overlapping. I have been looking at the XDarwin code. They have a rootless mode. Some of the ideas for wrapping - Ian -- iburrell@stanfordalumni.org http://www.znark.com/ From KGreen@ida.org Mon Apr 8 13:02:00 2002 From: KGreen@ida.org (Green, Keith) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 13:02:00 -0000 Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin? Message-ID: <5100B747F3C9D311B3210050DA839D0E9967A7@ntexch-1801a.ida.org> We have an application that requires an X-Server. The application was developed on SGI, but has been successfully ported to Linux and Sun. We also run it on PC's using the Exceed. However, we would prefer to give customers an environment they could use for this. Some months ago I downloaded cygwin/xfree86 onto my system (with some help) and installed it on my pc. It appears to support everything we want to do. Unfortunately, the entire thing seems pretty large. I note that we don't really need cygwin, per se, except that xfree86 seems to require it as an API. Is a single install package for cygwin/xfree86 in which the cygwin has been scaled-down (without the games, man pages, extraneous - for our needs - libraries, plethora of great unix commands)? I've been browsing the mail archives for this list. I don't entirely understand everything I'm reading, but it sounds like there is somewhere a single installation for cygwin and xfree86, although it doesn't sound scaled back. k ____________________________________________________ Keith Green, Research Staff Member / Simulation Center Institute for Defense Analyses 4850 Mark Center Drive / Alexandria, VA 22311-1882 Wk: (703) 845-6815 Fax: (703) 845-6809 From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Mon Apr 8 13:57:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 13:57:00 -0000 Subject: rootless mode Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Burrell [mailto:iburrell@stanfordalumni.org] > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 5:30 AM > To: Robert Collins > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: rootless mode > > > Robert Collins wrote: > > I've been thinking about rootless mode. > > > > Here's my current thoughts: > > > > 1) We create a real win32 window for each X window. > > I think we only need a Win32 window for each top-level X window. As I know nothing about the Xserver internals, I'm going to avoid any 'optimisations' like this as being premature. Wiser folk than I can tweak what I create - if it works. > > Anyway, whilst I won't have time to be a significant contributor, I > > hope to have a proof-of-concept patch against the Native GDI engine > > shortly. > > > > It would be nice if the rootless mode was orthogonal to the engine. I > think this is doable. For the shadow modes, the image is blitted from > the framebuffer into the individual windows instead of the screen > window. I can see problems with X and Win32 having different > ideas about > clipping and overlapping. It's probably going to be orthogonal, but I am not going to spend time trying to make it so. If it works - great, if it doesn't - well as soon as I have something prettier than a dozen blank windows on the task bar (The current state :}) you'll get a patch and can play to your hearts content. All the needed doco to build the test tree is now on record.. Rob From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Apr 8 14:00:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 14:00:00 -0000 Subject: rootless mode In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Rob, One Win32 window per top-level X windows isn't an optimization... it's just necessary. A top-level window is like a Windows window with a blue border... any other window could be a button or a scrollbar, etc. We certainly don't want to create a Win32 window for each of those (just picture an X window with a bounding Win32 window and a Win32 window for each button it has... won't work). Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Robert Collins > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:58 PM > To: Ian Burrell > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: rootless mode > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ian Burrell [mailto:iburrell@stanfordalumni.org] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 5:30 AM > > To: Robert Collins > > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: Re: rootless mode > > > > > > Robert Collins wrote: > > > I've been thinking about rootless mode. > > > > > > Here's my current thoughts: > > > > > > 1) We create a real win32 window for each X window. > > > > I think we only need a Win32 window for each top-level X window. > > As I know nothing about the Xserver internals, I'm going to avoid any > 'optimisations' like this as being premature. Wiser folk than I can > tweak what I create - if it works. > > > > Anyway, whilst I won't have time to be a significant contributor, I > > > hope to have a proof-of-concept patch against the Native GDI engine > > > shortly. > > > > > > > It would be nice if the rootless mode was orthogonal to the engine. I > > think this is doable. For the shadow modes, the image is blitted from > > the framebuffer into the individual windows instead of the screen > > window. I can see problems with X and Win32 having different > > ideas about > > clipping and overlapping. > > It's probably going to be orthogonal, but I am not going to spend time > trying to make it so. If it works - great, if it doesn't - well as soon > as I have something prettier than a dozen blank windows on the task bar > (The current state :}) you'll get a patch and can play to your hearts > content. All the needed doco to build the test tree is now on record.. > > Rob From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Mon Apr 8 14:07:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 14:07:00 -0000 Subject: rootless mode Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 7:01 AM > To: Robert Collins; Ian Burrell > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: rootless mode > > > Rob, > > One Win32 window per top-level X windows isn't an > optimization... it's just necessary. A top-level window is > like a Windows window with a blue border... any other window > could be a button or a scrollbar, etc. We certainly don't > want to create a Win32 window for each of those (just picture > an X window with a bounding Win32 window and a Win32 window > for each button it has... won't work). Actually Win32 uses CreateWindow to create all the buttons and scrollbars you see in (say) outlook or wordpad. Based on that I see little or no reason it shouldn't work. However, I imagine that only top-level windows will need to show on the task bar. Anyway, my first goal is simply proof of concept - the native engine rendering into each window based on picking up the pWin from GetWindowLong. What is a good way to detect top-lvel X windows given a WindowPtr (so I can test this rather than being stubborn :}). The top level windows I'm creating have no win32 decoration - no close button etc. That's a window manager consideration and one of the pdfs you've gather documents a good way to handle that. Rob From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Mon Apr 8 14:43:00 2002 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 14:43:00 -0000 Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin? In-Reply-To: <5100B747F3C9D311B3210050DA839D0E9967A7@ntexch-1801a.ida.org> References: <5100B747F3C9D311B3210050DA839D0E9967A7@ntexch-1801a.ida.org> Message-ID: <20020408214321.GA17954@redhat.com> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:02:06PM -0400, Green, Keith wrote: >However, we would prefer to give customers an environment they could >use for this. Some months ago I downloaded cygwin/xfree86 onto my >system (with some help) and installed it on my pc. It appears to >support everything we want to do. Unfortunately, the entire thing >seems pretty large. I note that we don't really need cygwin, per se, >except that xfree86 seems to require it as an API. > >Is a single install package for cygwin/xfree86 in which the cygwin has >been scaled-down (without the games, man pages, extraneous - for our >needs - libraries, plethora of great unix commands)? The base cygwin install provides, er, a base cygwin install. That's the default for the Cygwin installation. There is currently no XFree86 package in the cygwin installation at all. >I've been browsing the mail archives for this list. I don't entirely >understand everything I'm reading, but it sounds like there is >somewhere a single installation for cygwin and xfree86, although it >doesn't sound scaled back. Not that I'm aware of. It's been a goal but movement on it is pretty slow. I would love for someone to post a proposal for inclusion of a XFree86 package to the cygwin-apps mailing list using the guidelines at http://cygwin.com/setup.html but so far no one has been willing to do that. Once that happened, then you'd be able to just install XFree86 via the standard cygwin installation. cgf From KGreen@ida.org Mon Apr 8 15:42:00 2002 From: KGreen@ida.org (Green, Keith) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 15:42:00 -0000 Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin? tx Message-ID: <5100B747F3C9D311B3210050DA839D0E9967A8@ntexch-1801a.ida.org> Heya, Christopher, Thanks for the quick response. k ____________________________________________________ Keith Green, Research Staff Member / Simulation Center Institute for Defense Analyses 4850 Mark Center Drive / Alexandria, VA 22311-1882 Wk: (703) 845-6815 Fax: (703) 845-6809 -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:43 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Cc: KGreen@ida.org Subject: Re: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin? On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:02:06PM -0400, Green, Keith wrote: >However, we would prefer to give customers an environment they could >use for this. Some months ago I downloaded cygwin/xfree86 onto my >system (with some help) and installed it on my pc. It appears to >support everything we want to do. Unfortunately, the entire thing >seems pretty large. I note that we don't really need cygwin, per se, >except that xfree86 seems to require it as an API. > >Is a single install package for cygwin/xfree86 in which the cygwin has >been scaled-down (without the games, man pages, extraneous - for our >needs - libraries, plethora of great unix commands)? The base cygwin install provides, er, a base cygwin install. That's the default for the Cygwin installation. There is currently no XFree86 package in the cygwin installation at all. >I've been browsing the mail archives for this list. I don't entirely >understand everything I'm reading, but it sounds like there is >somewhere a single installation for cygwin and xfree86, although it >doesn't sound scaled back. Not that I'm aware of. It's been a goal but movement on it is pretty slow. I would love for someone to post a proposal for inclusion of a XFree86 package to the cygwin-apps mailing list using the guidelines at http://cygwin.com/setup.html but so far no one has been willing to do that. Once that happened, then you'd be able to just install XFree86 via the standard cygwin installation. cgf From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Mon Apr 8 15:44:00 2002 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 15:44:00 -0000 Subject: rootless mode In-Reply-To: <200204081535.g38FZwP35610@pilot20.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <000e01c1df4f$009faf00$4e6607d5@BRAMSCHE> Thank you for pointing this out. :-) I doesn't know that in this detail Regards Ralf From iburrell@znark.com Mon Apr 8 16:57:00 2002 From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 16:57:00 -0000 Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin? References: <5100B747F3C9D311B3210050DA839D0E9967A7@ntexch-1801a.ida.org> <20020408214321.GA17954@redhat.com> Message-ID: <3CB22E4C.80100@znark.com> Christopher Faylor wrote: > > The base cygwin install provides, er, a base cygwin install. That's the > default for the Cygwin installation. There is currently no XFree86 > package in the cygwin installation at all. > They could create a custom install if they wanted. The Cygwin setup program can download packages from any site. They would need to select the packages for a minimal install, create a new setup.ini, and mirror those packages on their download site. > > I would love for someone to post a proposal for inclusion of a XFree86 > package to the cygwin-apps mailing list using the guidelines at > http://cygwin.com/setup.html but so far no one has been willing to do > that. > The first step is to build Cygwin-style packages. The second step is to create a local install directory with custom setup.ini and packages. The third step is to get it included into the standard cygwin install. I thought someone already did the packaging. One question is do we want to separate it into multiple packages. Another is what to name the packages; xfree86 or xoncygwin would be good choices. I think multiple packages is a good idea. Mainly so the server executable can be updated without updating the other files. - Ian -- iburrell@znark.com http://www.znark.com/ From cgf@redhat.com Mon Apr 8 17:13:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 17:13:00 -0000 Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin? In-Reply-To: <3CB22E4C.80100@znark.com> References: <5100B747F3C9D311B3210050DA839D0E9967A7@ntexch-1801a.ida.org> <20020408214321.GA17954@redhat.com> <3CB22E4C.80100@znark.com> Message-ID: <20020409001316.GE20382@redhat.com> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:57:00PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote: >>I would love for someone to post a proposal for inclusion of a XFree86 >>package to the cygwin-apps mailing list using the guidelines at >>http://cygwin.com/setup.html but so far no one has been willing to do >>that. > >The first step is to build Cygwin-style packages. The second step is to >create a local install directory with custom setup.ini and packages. The >third step is to get it included into the standard cygwin install. I don't care how you want to get things ready. Someone has to take ownership and it has to be proposed/discussed in cygwin-apps. cgf From m.manohar@attbi.com Mon Apr 8 19:43:00 2002 From: m.manohar@attbi.com (M Manohar) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 19:43:00 -0000 Subject: kde 3.0 no icons Message-ID: <3CB25505.1080903@attbi.com> Hi, I recently installed KDE 3.0 on my linux box and have the same problem, that is certain icons don't get displayed on Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0 (version confirmed by running xdpyinfo). I poked around a little more and found that icons that are in PNG format are the ones that don't get displayed. I checked my Cygwin installation for libpng.dll and it does exist (I manually copied cygpng2.dll to libpng.dll). I'm not sure if this library is required though. Hoping somebody can help me on this. Thanks Manohar ---------------- Scott, That doesn't sound good. I haven't yet installed KDE 3.0 and I won't have time to for at least a week, so I won't have a chance to look into this for some time. I know you say that Cygwin/XFree86 is up-to-date, but are you running Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0? You can check by running 'xdpyinfo' in a local Cygwin/XFree86 session or in a terminal when you are logged into another machine via XDMCP. Awaiting a chance to investiage this, Harold Scott Alexander said: > Hi, > > My server has just been upgraded to kde 3.0 running redhat 7.2. I use = > cygwin with xfree86 to connect to this server using > > x -query > > I have been doing this for a while with kde 2.2.2 with no problems. = > However when i connect to it now with kde 3 my screen has no icons or = > icons on the kicker bar at the bottom. =20 > > Does anyone know of this problem and a solution for it. > > My machine runs w2k with up 2 date cygwin and xfree86. > > Cheers > > Scott Alexander > > From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Mon Apr 8 21:35:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 21:35:00 -0000 Subject: drawables Message-ID: For rootless, I'd ideally be able to go from a pdrawable to a pWin. Is there a reliable way to do this? Some scenarios where this makes sense: 1) Anything passed a pDrawable + a pGC - if it's a window we want a HDC for that window. 2) Clipping. If we are drawing a window we need a win32 clipping context so that we don't overwrite other onscreen windows that happen to be in front of us. (At the moment we draw onto the win32 screen DC, because I can't go from pDrawable to pWin in the setspans/fillspans routines. BTW, I have rootless mode happily drawing all the windows, with a win32 window on the task bar. I'm deliberatly not writing a 'internal window manager' at this point. So we're nearly at my proof-of-concept target. Rob From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Apr 8 22:11:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 22:11:00 -0000 Subject: drawables In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Rob, If you have a pDrawable and pDrawable->type == DRAWABLE_WINDOW then you actually have a pWindow already and pWindow == pDrawable. Just look at xc/programs/Xserver/include/windowstr.h/WindowRec and you'll see that the first member in a WindowRec is actually a DrawableRec, so the address of that DrawableRec is the same as the address of the WindowRec. The exact same thing is true for PixmapRec's and we have to use that knowledge in winfillsp.c/winFillSpansNativeGDI to get a pixmap pointer when pDrawable->type == DRAWBLE_PIXMAP via pPixmap = (PixmapPtr) pDrawable; I hope that clarifies things. This may actually be documented in the Porting Layer Definition, but I don't remember for sure. Sounds like you are making good progress. Keep it up and I hope to see what you have soon, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Robert Collins > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 12:36 AM > To: Cygwin-Xfree > Subject: drawables > > > For rootless, I'd ideally be able to go from a pdrawable to a pWin. Is > there a reliable way to do this? > > Some scenarios where this makes sense: > 1) Anything passed a pDrawable + a pGC - if it's a window we want a HDC > for that window. > 2) Clipping. If we are drawing a window we need a win32 clipping context > so that we don't overwrite other onscreen windows that happen to be in > front of us. (At the moment we draw onto the win32 screen DC, because I > can't go from pDrawable to pWin in the setspans/fillspans routines. > > BTW, I have rootless mode happily drawing all the windows, with a win32 > window on the task bar. I'm deliberatly not writing a 'internal window > manager' at this point. > > So we're nearly at my proof-of-concept target. > > Rob From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Apr 8 22:34:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 22:34:00 -0000 Subject: XWarpCursor doesn't "stick" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Bill, Did Server Test 55 solve your problem? I don't recall seeing an email from you stating that the problem was fixed. Let me know for sure and I'll get the patch committed. http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ Thanks, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Trost, Bill > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 11:43 AM > To: 'Harold L Hunt' > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: XWarpCursor doesn't "stick" > > > From: Harold L Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > > So lets say that the Windows cursor is at 100, 100 (screen > coords), the upper left-hand corner of the Cygwin/XFree86 > client area is > at > 25, 25 (screen coords) and a warp request comes in to move to the X > cursor > to 200, 200 (X windows coords). I am thinking of two things that you > could be saying: > > 1) ... > > 2) Or, I receive a request to move the cursor to a final > location of 200, 200 and I do so, which fails to take into > account that > the X > cursor root is at 25, 25 in Windows screen coodinates. > > It looks like #2 to me. Email sure makes it hard to explain some things, > doesn't it? > > Visually, the effect is, if I simply run "XWin" (so that the X > root occupies > a maximized Windows window), after a large warp, tweaking the mouse will > cause the pointer to jump up one title-bar height. > > ...I need to query for the > upper-left hand corner of the Cygwin/XFree86 client area > before calling SetCursorPos so that I can offset the final > destination. > > That's what I guess needs fixing. > > Notice that no one has really request the WarpCursor > functionality before, that's why it doesn't work yet. :) > > Really? I'm shocked! (-: > > From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Apr 8 22:36:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 22:36:00 -0000 Subject: kde 3.0 no icons In-Reply-To: <3CB25505.1080903@attbi.com> Message-ID: Manohar, I just logged into KDE3 via one of the computers in our campus labs today (running 4.1.99 which is either some unknown test release or 4.1.0) and saw the problem that you mentioned. I noticed that two desktop icons show up (one was the "Internet" icon for Konq) but no bottom-bar buttons showed up. I'm not sure what causes the problem but at least now I have some sort of test environment. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of M Manohar > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:42 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: kde 3.0 no icons > > > Hi, > > I recently installed KDE 3.0 on my linux box and have the same > problem, that is certain icons don't get displayed > on Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0 (version confirmed by running xdpyinfo). > > I poked around a little more and found that icons that are in PNG > format are the ones that > don't get displayed. I checked my Cygwin installation for > libpng.dll and it does exist > (I manually copied cygpng2.dll to libpng.dll). I'm not sure if > this library is required though. > > Hoping somebody can help me on this. > > Thanks > Manohar > > ---------------- > Scott, > > That doesn't sound good. > > I haven't yet installed KDE 3.0 and I won't have time to for at > least a week, > so I won't have a chance to look into this for some time. > > I know you say that Cygwin/XFree86 is up-to-date, but are you running > Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0? You can check by running 'xdpyinfo' in a local > Cygwin/XFree86 session or in a terminal when you are logged into another > machine via XDMCP. > > Awaiting a chance to investiage this, > > Harold > > Scott Alexander said: > > > Hi, > > > > My server has just been upgraded to kde 3.0 running redhat 7.2. I use = > > cygwin with xfree86 to connect to this server using > > > > x -query > > > > I have been doing this for a while with kde 2.2.2 with no problems. = > > However when i connect to it now with kde 3 my screen has no icons or = > > icons on the kicker bar at the bottom. =20 > > > > Does anyone know of this problem and a solution for it. > > > > My machine runs w2k with up 2 date cygwin and xfree86. > > > > Cheers > > > > Scott Alexander > > > > > > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Apr 8 22:39:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 22:39:00 -0000 Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin? In-Reply-To: <20020409001316.GE20382@redhat.com> Message-ID: Chris, Did we ever get "meta" packages enabled in Cygwin setup that are essentially file-less packages (e.g. XFree86 Minimum Install, XFree86 Standard Install, etc.) that depend on other packages? Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 8:13 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin? > > > On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:57:00PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote: > >>I would love for someone to post a proposal for inclusion of a XFree86 > >>package to the cygwin-apps mailing list using the guidelines at > >>http://cygwin.com/setup.html but so far no one has been willing to do > >>that. > > > >The first step is to build Cygwin-style packages. The second step is to > >create a local install directory with custom setup.ini and packages. The > >third step is to get it included into the standard cygwin install. > > I don't care how you want to get things ready. Someone has to take > ownership and it has to be proposed/discussed in cygwin-apps. > > cgf From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Mon Apr 8 22:40:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 22:40:00 -0000 Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin? Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 3:39 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: RE: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin? > > > Chris, > > Did we ever get "meta" packages enabled in Cygwin setup that > are essentially file-less packages (e.g. XFree86 Minimum > Install, XFree86 Standard Install, > etc.) that depend on other packages? Yes. Uhmm, two versions back. Cheers, Rob (Cygwin Setup maintainer) From Joerg.Schaible@gft.com Tue Apr 9 01:01:00 2002 From: Joerg.Schaible@gft.com (Schaible, Jorg) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 01:01:00 -0000 Subject: rootless mode Message-ID: <1264BCF4F426D611B0B00050DA782A501117D5@mail.gft.com> Hi Rob, >> One Win32 window per top-level X windows isn't an >> optimization... it's just necessary. A top-level window is >> like a Windows window with a blue border... any other window >> could be a button or a scrollbar, etc. We certainly don't >> want to create a Win32 window for each of those (just picture >> an X window with a bounding Win32 window and a Win32 window >> for each button it has... won't work). > >Actually Win32 uses CreateWindow to create all the buttons and >scrollbars you see in (say) outlook or wordpad. Based on that I see >little or no reason it shouldn't work. However, I imagine that only >top-level windows will need to show on the task bar. Anyway, my first >goal is simply proof of concept - the native engine rendering into each >window based on picking up the pWin from GetWindowLong. What is a good >way to detect top-lvel X windows given a WindowPtr (so I can test this >rather than being stubborn :}). > >The top level windows I'm creating have no win32 decoration - no close >button etc. That's a window manager consideration and one of the pdfs >you've gather documents a good way to handle that. please keep also in mind, that the decoration of a window in X is coming from the X Window Manager. Windows always counts the border as part ot the Window itself. If you try to use native Windows controls for the X controls you may run here in major sizing prtoblems. Even for the top-level windows you may always keep the inner window size of the Windows based window in sync with the X size. I've developed and maintained for some years a cross-platform C++-GUI lib (Win16/Win32/OS2/Motif), so I know what I am talking about. Please don't get me wrong. I don't wanna tell you, what you should prove with your concept. I just want to give you a hint where some major problems will arise ;-) Regards, Jorg From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Tue Apr 9 01:50:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 01:50:00 -0000 Subject: drawables Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 3:11 PM > I hope that clarifies things. > > This may actually be documented in the Porting Layer > Definition, but I don't remember for sure. Yes it is sortof - some frameworks have defined mechanisms for RTTI, and I hate to guess wrong... > Sounds like you are making good progress. Keep it up and I > hope to see what you have soon, So do I :}. As soon as I get the mouse going again I think I'll send the patch in. Rob From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Tue Apr 9 02:02:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 02:02:00 -0000 Subject: rootless mode Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Schaible, Jorg [mailto:Joerg.Schaible@gft.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:02 PM > please keep also in mind, that the decoration of a window in > X is coming from the X Window Manager. Windows always counts > the border as part ot the Window itself. If you try to use > native Windows controls for the X controls you may run here > in major sizing prtoblems. Even for the top-level windows > you may always keep the inner window size of the Windows > based window in sync with the X size. Of course. That's a problem whenever a decorator may work on your window. > I've developed and maintained for some years a cross-platform > C++-GUI lib (Win16/Win32/OS2/Motif), so I know what I am > talking about. Please don't get me wrong. I don't wanna tell > you, what you should prove with your concept. I just want to > give you a hint where some major problems will arise ;-) I've actually run into this before. CreateWindowEx (WS_EX_TOOLWINDOW, someclass, sometitle, WS_POPUP, x1, y1, width, height, (HWND) NULL, (HMENU) NULL, GetModuleHandle (NULL), pPrivateData); creates a completely borderless window that is not visible in the task list but sits behind everying - so it needs a parent. WS_CHILD also creates a borderless window IIRC - and that's used for controls. Changing the WS_EX_TOOLWINDOW to 0 creates a completely borderless window that is visible in the task list and participates in the Z-order... Thanks for taking the time to point out a possible problem though, I do appreciate the input. Rob From xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz Tue Apr 9 05:43:00 2002 From: xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz (David Komanek) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 05:43:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree and OpenGL In-Reply-To: <200204081539.g38FdpP11254@pilot20.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: Dear Harold, thank you for the reply. xdpyinfo shows that both named extensions are present. Is there some possibility to trace where is the problem (some debug mode for Xfree or so ?) David > David, > > Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't have OpenGL, it has Mesa. > > You can run 'xdpyinfo' in Cygwin/XFree86 and look for the GLX and SGI-GLX > extensions. Both of those should be present in a default installation. > > I'm not sure if Mesa is completely compatible with OpenGL apps on SGI... > you'll have to find that out for yourself or hope that someone on the list > with an SGI machine answers. > > Harold > > David Komanek said: > > > > > Hi, > > > > sorry to vaste your time, but please, can me somebody explain how to use > > the OpenGL support in Xfree ? I have installed the complete cygwin > > distribution (includes opengl libraries), downloaded and installed > > complete Xfree. It works fine with classical X-servers. However, > > connecting to SGI workstation, many of its graphical apps don't work. > > > > Have I edit /etc/X11/XftConfig some way to get the OpenGL libraries loaded > > ? > > > > Is there some OpenGL application ported for CygWin to test the > > functionality localy ? > > > > Latest versions of CygWin and Xfree (downloaded just today), Windows 2000 > > Pro SP2. > > > > Thanks in advance for any help, > > > > David Komanek > > > > > > > From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Apr 9 05:46:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 05:46:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree and OpenGL In-Reply-To: References: <200204081539.g38FdpP11254@pilot20.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20020409124624.GG11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:43:13PM +0200, David Komanek wrote: > Dear Harold, > > thank you for the reply. xdpyinfo shows that both named extensions are > present. Is there some possibility to trace where is the problem (some > debug mode for Xfree or so ?) > David, There is a sample program called 'glxgears' which will draw three depth buffered rotating gears. If this works, you've got it all running. What's your application reporting ? Alan. From cgf@redhat.com Tue Apr 9 06:02:00 2002 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 06:02:00 -0000 Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin? In-Reply-To: References: <20020409001316.GE20382@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20020409130227.GA2005@redhat.com> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 01:39:18AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: >Chris, > >Did we ever get "meta" packages enabled in Cygwin setup that are essentially >file-less packages (e.g. XFree86 Minimum Install, XFree86 Standard Install, >etc.) that depend on other packages? Yep, as Robert indicated, this has been possible for a while. For Cygwin/XFree86, what I'd like to do is have you all come up with a few .tar.bz2 files which install into a /usr/X11R6, /etc/X11, etc. The hierarchy would be something like: xfree base setup.hint XFree-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 XFree-4.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2 doc setup.hint XFree-doc-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 devel setup.hint XFree86-devel-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2 XFree86-devel-4.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2 (borrowing from the apparent Red Hat package names) The setup hint file for base would be something like: sdesc: "The basic fonts, programs and docs for an X workstation." requires: cygwin termcap libncurses6 terminfo category: XFree86 ldesc: "he X Window System provides the base technology for developing graphical user interfaces. Simply stated, X draws the elements of the GUI on the user's screen and builds methods for sending user interactions back to the application. X also supports remote application deployment--running an application on another computer while viewing the input/output on your machine. X is a powerful environment which supports many different applications, such as games, programming tools, graphics programs, text editors, etc. XFree86 is the version of X which runs on Linux, as well as on other platforms. This package contains the basic fonts, programs and documentation for an X workstation. However, this package doesn't provide the program which you will need to drive your video hardware. To control your video card, you'll need the particular X server package which corresponds to your computer's video card. Additionally, you will need to install the Xconfigurator package, the xfs X font server package and the XFree86-libs package. You may also need to install one or more of the XFree86 fonts packages. And finally, if you are going to develop applications that run as X clients, you will also need to install XFree86-devel." cgf From xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz Tue Apr 9 08:07:00 2002 From: xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz (David Komanek) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 08:07:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree and OpenGL In-Reply-To: <20020409124624.GG11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Dear Alan, thanks for your comments/advices. I tried glxgears and it works. The gears are not rotating fluent enough on my 800MHz pentium, but I don't expect this is related to my problem. I am able to start xterm, swmgr, toolchest connecting to SGI 6.5.14 box which probably use classical X11 and Motif library only. Trying to start i.e. "jot", it claims: dgl error (protocol): remote machine not DGL capable - meda:10.0 dgl error (default init): default dglopen(meda:10.0,4) returned -13 Connecting to another box, running IRIX 6.2, it is even worse - swmgr shows only the first "Wait please ...." window and then you can wait for hours and the main window does not appear. In the xterm you can see following message: WARNING: Not all colors for application icons could be allocated. Some interface elements may have different colors. Warning: creating new shape image Jot coredumps, many others too. Toolchest starts fine, but no apps called invoked from its menus. When I run this apps on the local graphics console of an SGI box, it works fine. Well, this problem is not connection type related (both ssh and telnet+xhost produce same results). Probably should I install something on the SGI boxes to translate DGL requests into the X11 protocol (rendered on the server side, but at least working) ? Any ideas are appreciated. David > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:43:13PM +0200, David Komanek wrote: > > Dear Harold, > > > > thank you for the reply. xdpyinfo shows that both named extensions are > > present. Is there some possibility to trace where is the problem (some > > debug mode for Xfree or so ?) > > > David, > > There is a sample program called 'glxgears' which will draw three > depth buffered rotating gears. If this works, you've got it all running. > > What's your application reporting ? > > Alan. > From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Apr 9 08:16:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 08:16:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree and OpenGL In-Reply-To: References: <20020409124624.GG11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020409151607.GN11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 05:07:27PM +0200, David Komanek wrote: > Dear Alan, > > thanks for your comments/advices. I tried glxgears and it works. The gears > are not rotating fluent enough on my 800MHz pentium, but I don't expect > this is related to my problem. > > I am able to start xterm, swmgr, toolchest connecting to SGI 6.5.14 box > which probably use classical X11 and Motif library only. Trying to start > i.e. "jot", it claims: > > dgl error (protocol): remote machine not DGL capable - meda:10.0 > dgl error (default init): default dglopen(meda:10.0,4) returned -13 > Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't have the DGL extension. If you do an 'xdpyinfo' on your SGI box, you'll probably see it. I suspect you won't be able to get this app working on anything but SGI boxes. > Connecting to another box, running IRIX 6.2, it is even worse - swmgr > shows only the first "Wait please ...." window and then you can wait for > hours and the main window does not appear. In the xterm you can see > following message: > > WARNING: Not all colors for application icons could be allocated. Some > interface elements may have different colors. > Warning: creating new shape image > > Jot coredumps, many others too. > Toolchest starts fine, but no apps called invoked from its menus. > > When I run this apps on the local graphics console of an SGI box, it works > fine. > > Well, this problem is not connection type related (both ssh and > telnet+xhost produce same results). Probably should I install something on > the SGI boxes to translate DGL requests into the X11 protocol (rendered on > the server side, but at least working) ? > How many colours is your Windows screen set up in ? Try changing the depth to 24bit (i.e. 16million colours) Alan. From xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz Tue Apr 9 08:27:00 2002 From: xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz (David Komanek) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 08:27:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree and OpenGL In-Reply-To: <20020409151607.GN11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: > > dgl error (protocol): remote machine not DGL capable - meda:10.0 > > dgl error (default init): default dglopen(meda:10.0,4) returned -13 > > > Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't have the DGL extension. If you do an 'xdpyinfo' > on your SGI box, you'll probably see it. Eh, I thought, DGL is SGI name for OpenGL. Sorry. > I suspect you won't be able to get this app working on anything but > SGI boxes. O.k., I'll trz VNC if it can handle it on the copy of local display. Not Xfree related anymore. > > WARNING: Not all colors for application icons could be allocated. Some > > interface elements may have different colors. > > Warning: creating new shape image > > > > Jot coredumps, many others too. > > Toolchest starts fine, but no apps called invoked from its menus. > > > > When I run this apps on the local graphics console of an SGI box, it works > > fine. > > > > Well, this problem is not connection type related (both ssh and > > telnet+xhost produce same results). Probably should I install something on > > the SGI boxes to translate DGL requests into the X11 protocol (rendered on > > the server side, but at least working) ? > > > How many colours is your Windows screen set up in ? > > Try changing the depth to 24bit (i.e. 16million colours) Using TrueColor(32bit) on the desktop and starting Xfree with start XWin -screen 0 1024 768 so I don't expect problems here. Probably something in color translation. Most important I see the "creating new shape image" warning which I get not on the native SGI display. David From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Apr 9 08:33:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 08:33:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree and OpenGL In-Reply-To: References: <20020409151607.GN11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020409153336.GP11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 05:27:28PM +0200, David Komanek wrote: > > > > dgl error (protocol): remote machine not DGL capable - meda:10.0 > > > dgl error (default init): default dglopen(meda:10.0,4) returned -13 > > > > > Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't have the DGL extension. If you do an 'xdpyinfo' > > on your SGI box, you'll probably see it. > > Eh, I thought, DGL is SGI name for OpenGL. Sorry. > I think you'll find DGL is IrixGL which pre-dated OpenGL, but still supported on SGI boxes. Did you do an 'xdpyinfo' on the SGI box ? Did it list DGL ? > > I suspect you won't be able to get this app working on anything but > > SGI boxes. > > O.k., I'll trz VNC if it can handle it on the copy of local display. Not > Xfree related anymore. > VNC is probably your only hope. Alan. From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Tue Apr 9 08:48:00 2002 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 08:48:00 -0000 Subject: Just a note - nativegdi engine Message-ID: I've made serious progress, but I'm having trouble with two things. 1) The mouse - I'm not getting any WM_MOUSEMOVE messages to the app windows. Anyone seen this before? 2) I've broken fillspans for DRAWABLE_WINDOWs. I can fix it by drawing into the root window hdc always, but that's defeating the purpose - all we gain is the pretty task bar entries :[. 2) I'm working on, I suspect it's a coordinate translation thing. I get lovely background stipple but not (AFAICT solid fills). Anyway, the reason for the email: Harold: I thought you might like to see the little todo: I've added. Creating a single combined clipping region using CombineRgn will allow you to move the for (iX= ..)loop from within the while (nbox--) loop, thus saving multiple selectClipRgn+deleteObject + bitblt calls, which may make the native engine quite a bit faster. I *will* do this optimisation here and elsewhere, but only after I get the fills working for 'native' windows first. Rob /* TODO: create a single commbined clipping region */ nbox = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pClip); pbox = REGION_RECTS (pClip); while (nbox--) { hrgn = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2, pbox->y2); SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdcMem, hrgn); DeleteObject (hrgn); hrgn = NULL; for (iX = fullX1; iX < fullX2; iX += pStipple->drawable.width) { int width; if ((iX + pStipple->drawable.width) > fullX2) width = fullX2 - iX; else width = pStipple->drawable.width; BitBlt (pGCPriv->hdcMem, iX, fullY1, width, 1, hdcStipple, 0, fullY1 % pStipple->drawable.height, g_copyROP[pGC->alu]); } pbox++; } From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Apr 9 08:56:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 08:56:00 -0000 Subject: Just a note - nativegdi engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020409155639.GQ11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:47:58AM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > 2) I'm working on, I suspect it's a coordinate translation thing. I get > lovely background stipple but not (AFAICT solid fills). > Rob, Take a look at wingc.c and set miTranslate to 0 (FALSE). Alan. From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Apr 9 09:00:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 09:00:00 -0000 Subject: Just a note - nativegdi engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020409160002.GR11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:47:58AM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > Creating a single combined clipping region using CombineRgn will allow > you to move the for (iX= ..)loop from within the while (nbox--) loop, > thus saving multiple selectClipRgn+deleteObject + bitblt calls, which > may make the native engine quite a bit faster. I *will* do this > optimisation here and elsewhere, but only after I get the fills working > for 'native' windows first. > Forgot about this.... Robert, this loop is not a single blt. It's a span of small blits of a part of the stipple/tile. You won't be able to just do a single blit for this. Alan. From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Apr 9 09:12:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 09:12:00 -0000 Subject: Just a note - nativegdi engine In-Reply-To: <20020409160002.GR11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk> References: <20020409160002.GR11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020409161215.GS11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:47:58AM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > Creating a single combined clipping region using CombineRgn will allow > you to move the for (iX= ..)loop from within the while (nbox--) loop, > thus saving multiple selectClipRgn+deleteObject + bitblt calls, which > may make the native engine quite a bit faster. I *will* do this > optimisation here and elsewhere, but only after I get the fills working > for 'native' windows first. > Shucks... Re-read it. I understand what your saying now. Ignore that last one. Alan. From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 9 09:23:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 09:23:00 -0000 Subject: Xfree and OpenGL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: David, Just as a sanity check, you have run non OpenGL applications from your SGI machine using Cygwin/XFree86, right? I mean, it wouldn't make much sense to jump right into debugging complex applications if an xterm doesn't work correctly. Just let us know that you have in fact done this. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of David Komanek > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:07 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Xfree and OpenGL > > > > Dear Alan, > > thanks for your comments/advices. I tried glxgears and it works. The gears > are not rotating fluent enough on my 800MHz pentium, but I don't expect > this is related to my problem. > > I am able to start xterm, swmgr, toolchest connecting to SGI 6.5.14 box > which probably use classical X11 and Motif library only. Trying to start > i.e. "jot", it claims: > > dgl error (protocol): remote machine not DGL capable - meda:10.0 > dgl error (default init): default dglopen(meda:10.0,4) returned -13 > > Connecting to another box, running IRIX 6.2, it is even worse - swmgr > shows only the first "Wait please ...." window and then you can wait for > hours and the main window does not appear. In the xterm you can see > following message: > > WARNING: Not all colors for application icons could be allocated. Some > interface elements may have different colors. > Warning: creating new shape image > > Jot coredumps, many others too. > Toolchest starts fine, but no apps called invoked from its menus. > > When I run this apps on the local graphics console of an SGI box, it works > fine. > > Well, this problem is not connection type related (both ssh and > telnet+xhost produce same results). Probably should I install something on > the SGI boxes to translate DGL requests into the X11 protocol (rendered on > the server side, but at least working) ? > > Any ideas are appreciated. > > David > > > > > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:43:13PM +0200, David Komanek wrote: > > > Dear Harold, > > > > > > thank you for the reply. xdpyinfo shows that both named extensions are > > > present. Is there some possibility to trace where is the problem (some > > > debug mode for Xfree or so ?) > > > > > David, > > > > There is a sample program called 'glxgears' which will draw three > > depth buffered rotating gears. If this works, you've got it all running. > > > > What's your application reporting ? > > > > Alan. > > > From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 9 09:24:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 09:24:00 -0000 Subject: Just a note - nativegdi engine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Rob, > I've made serious progress, but I'm having trouble with two things. > > 1) The mouse - I'm not getting any WM_MOUSEMOVE messages to the app > windows. Anyone seen this before? > 2) I've broken fillspans for DRAWABLE_WINDOWs. I can fix it by drawing > into the root window hdc always, > but that's defeating the purpose - all we gain is the pretty task bar > entries :[. > > 2) I'm working on, I suspect it's a coordinate translation thing. I get > lovely background stipple but not (AFAICT solid fills). Interesting... I'll say more when I have time to think about it (working today). > Creating a single combined clipping region using CombineRgn will allow > you to move the for (iX= ..)loop from within the while (nbox--) loop, > thus saving multiple selectClipRgn+deleteObject + bitblt calls, which > may make the native engine quite a bit faster. I *will* do this > optimisation here and elsewhere, but only after I get the fills working > for 'native' windows first. That's Alan's domain... I'll let him look into it. Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Robert Collins > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:48 AM > To: Cygwin-Xfree > Subject: Just a note - nativegdi engine > > > I've made serious progress, but I'm having trouble with two things. > > 1) The mouse - I'm not getting any WM_MOUSEMOVE messages to the app > windows. Anyone seen this before? > 2) I've broken fillspans for DRAWABLE_WINDOWs. I can fix it by drawing > into the root window hdc always, > but that's defeating the purpose - all we gain is the pretty task bar > entries :[. > > 2) I'm working on, I suspect it's a coordinate translation thing. I get > lovely background stipple but not (AFAICT solid fills). > > Anyway, the reason for the email: > > Harold: > I thought you might like to see the little todo: I've added. > > Creating a single combined clipping region using CombineRgn will allow > you to move the for (iX= ..)loop from within the while (nbox--) loop, > thus saving multiple selectClipRgn+deleteObject + bitblt calls, which > may make the native engine quite a bit faster. I *will* do this > optimisation here and elsewhere, but only after I get the fills working > for 'native' windows first. > > Rob > > /* TODO: create a single commbined clipping region */ > nbox = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pClip); > pbox = REGION_RECTS (pClip); > while (nbox--) > { > hrgn = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2, > pbox->y2); > SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdcMem, hrgn); > DeleteObject (hrgn); > hrgn = NULL; > > for (iX = fullX1; iX < fullX2; iX += > pStipple->drawable.width) > { > int width; > > if ((iX + pStipple->drawable.width) > fullX2) > width = fullX2 - iX; > else > width = pStipple->drawable.width; > > BitBlt (pGCPriv->hdcMem, > iX, fullY1, > width, 1, > hdcStipple, > 0, > fullY1 % pStipple->drawable.height, > g_copyROP[pGC->alu]); > } > > pbox++; > } From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 9 09:54:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 09:54:00 -0000 Subject: Latest XFree86 CVS build failures? Message-ID: Is anyone else getting a build failure from the latest XFree86 CVS tree? I'm getting a problem where in the gcc command for building imake.exe the defines DefaultGcc2i386Opt and GccWarningOptions don't get expanded out to "-O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -Wpointer-arith". There were several recent changes to the imake files to allow better cross compiling... I'm wondering if something got broken on Cygwin in the process? Build log follows. Harold Building Release 6.6 of the X Window System. I hope you checked the configuration parameters in ./config/cf to see if you need to pass BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS. Tue Apr 9 11:18:08 2002 cd ./config/imake && make - --unix -f Makefile.ini BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS="" CC="gcc" clean make[1]: Entering directory `/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/imake' rm -f ccimake imake.o imake rm -f *.CKP *.ln *.BAK *.bak *.o core errs ,* *~ *.a tags TAGS make.log \#* rm -f -r Makefile.proto Makefile Makefile.dep bootstrap rm -f imakemdep_cpp.h make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/imake' make - --unix Makefile.boot make[1]: Entering directory `/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std' cd ./config/imake && make - --unix -w -f Makefile.ini BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS="" CC="gcc" make[2]: Entering directory `/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/imake' making imake with BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS= and CROSSCOMPILEFLAGS=-DCROSSCOMPILEDIR="" in config/imake if [ -n "" ] ; then \ /cc -E `./ccimake` \ -DCROSSCOMPILE_CPP imakemdep.h > imakemdep_cpp.h; \ else touch imakemdep_cpp.h; fi gcc -c -O -I../../include -I../../imports/x11/include/X11 `./ccimake` imake.c gcc -o imake -O -I../../include -I../../imports/x11/include/X11 imake.o make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/imake' rm -f ./config/makedepend/Makefile.proto ./config/imake/imake -I./config/cf -s ./config/makedepend/Makefile.proto -f ./config/makedepend/Imakefile -DTOPDIR=../.. -DCURDIR=./config/makedepend cd ./config/makedepend && rm -f -r Makefile Makefile.dep makedepend *.o bootstrap cd ./config/makedepend && make -f Makefile.proto bootstrap make[2]: Entering directory `/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/makedepend' make[2]: Nothing to be done for `bootstrap'. make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/makedepend' ./config/imake/imake -I./config/cf -s ./config/imake/Makefile.proto -f ./config/imake/Imakefile -DTOPDIR=../.. -DCURDIR=./config/imake -DBootStrap cd ./config/imake && make -f Makefile.proto bootstrapdepend make[2]: Entering directory `/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/imake' make[2]: Nothing to be done for `bootstrapdepend'. make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/imake' cd ./config/imake && make - --unix -w -f Makefile.ini BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS="" CC="gcc" bootstrap make[2]: Entering directory `/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/imake' + mkdir bootstrap mv *.o bootstrap + mv imake.exe bootstrap make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/imake' cd ./config/imake && make -f Makefile.proto all make[2]: Entering directory `/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/imake' gcc DefaultGcc2i386Opt GccWarningOptions -I../../include -I../../exports/include/X11 -I../.. -I. ./../exports/include -D__i386__ -DWIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN -DX_LOCALE -D_X86_ - DNO_TCP_H -D__CYGWIN__ -D_XOPEN_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_BSD_SOUR CE -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -DNO_ALLOCA -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -L/lib/automode.o -DCPP_PROGRAM="\"cpp\"" -c -o imake.o imake.c gcc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations make[2]: *** [imake.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/imake' make[1]: *** [imake.bootstrap] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std' make: *** [World] Error 2 From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Apr 9 10:57:00 2002 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 10:57:00 -0000 Subject: Latest XFree86 CVS build failures? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020409175708.GW11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 12:54:47PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > Is anyone else getting a build failure from the latest XFree86 CVS tree? > > I'm getting a problem where in the gcc command for building imake.exe the > defines DefaultGcc2i386Opt and GccWarningOptions don't get expanded out to > "-O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -Wpointer-arith". There were several recent > changes to the imake files to allow better cross compiling... I'm wondering > if something got broken on Cygwin in the process? > It looks like it broke somewhere Harold. You need to define #define HasGcc2 YES in your cygwin.cf now. Alan. From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 9 11:37:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 11:37:00 -0000 Subject: Latest XFree86 CVS build failures? In-Reply-To: <20020409175708.GW11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Interesting. I tried it and it does indeed work. I sure am glad that we have a guru around here :) Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Alan Hourihane > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 1:57 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: Latest XFree86 CVS build failures? > > > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 12:54:47PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote: > > Is anyone else getting a build failure from the latest XFree86 CVS tree? > > > > I'm getting a problem where in the gcc command for building > imake.exe the > > defines DefaultGcc2i386Opt and GccWarningOptions don't get > expanded out to > > "-O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -Wpointer-arith". There were > several recent > > changes to the imake files to allow better cross compiling... > I'm wondering > > if something got broken on Cygwin in the process? > > > It looks like it broke somewhere Harold. > > You need to define > > #define HasGcc2 YES > > in your cygwin.cf now. > > Alan. From jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk Tue Apr 9 11:37:00 2002 From: jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk (Jeremy Wilkins) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 11:37:00 -0000 Subject: XDM: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake Message-ID: <00cb01c1dff6$1c9525d0$0a00a8c0@bytenet> Hi, I'm trying to get X to connect to linux mandrake running in a virtual machine (sadly I don't have access to multiple computers). I'm using the command line Xwin -once -query linux -from nt but X times out with the error XDM: too many retransmissions. It seems that the linux box is refusing the XDMCP connection. The archives and FAQ both state that I only need to change the [Xdmcp] section in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc file to Enabled=true. Which I have done. But still no luck, I've also tried modifying the settings for xdm, setting the port to connect to as 177, and moving the /usr/bin/kdm program. My Xaccess file should allow direct connections from any machines (that seems to be the default setup). Any thoughts? Jeremy From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Apr 9 11:45:00 2002 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 11:45:00 -0000 Subject: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake In-Reply-To: <00cb01c1dff6$1c9525d0$0a00a8c0@bytenet> Message-ID: Jeremy, For starters, did you restart kdm after you changed the setting in kdmrc? You should be able to leave out the -from parameer now. Do you have multiple network cards in your NT machine, or token ring? Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jeremy Wilkins > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 2:41 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: XDM: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake > > > Hi, > > I'm trying to get X to connect to linux mandrake running in a virtual > machine (sadly I don't have access to multiple computers). I'm using the > command line > Xwin -once -query linux -from nt > > but X times out with the error XDM: too many retransmissions. > > It seems that the linux box is refusing the XDMCP connection. > > The archives and FAQ both state that I only need to change the [Xdmcp] > section in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc file to Enabled=true. Which I have > done. But still no luck, I've also tried modifying the settings for xdm, > setting the port to connect to as 177, and moving the > /usr/bin/kdm program. > > My Xaccess file should allow direct connections from any machines (that > seems to be the default setup). > > Any thoughts? > > Jeremy > From jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk Tue Apr 9 12:09:00 2002 From: jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk (Jeremy Wilkins) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 12:09:00 -0000 Subject: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake References: Message-ID: <00d901c1dffa$8bc69570$0a00a8c0@bytenet> Hi, Yeh, I've restarted both by changing run levels (down to 3, then back up to 5) and by restarting the virtual machine. The networking on the nt box (the host machine) is complicated, theres a physical network card, IP 192.168.0.10 not connected to anything with no name, and a virtual network card for VMWare, IP 192.168.78.1, called nt in the hosts file. Jeremy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Hunt" To: "Jeremy Wilkins" ; Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 7:45 PM Subject: RE: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake > Jeremy, > > For starters, did you restart kdm after you changed the setting in kdmrc? > > You should be able to leave out the -from parameer now. > > Do you have multiple network cards in your NT machine, or token ring? > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jeremy Wilkins > > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 2:41 PM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: XDM: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to get X to connect to linux mandrake running in a virtual > > machine (sadly I don't have access to multiple computers). I'm using the > > command line > > Xwin -once -query linux -from nt > > > > but X times out with the error XDM: too many retransmissions. > > > > It seems that the linux box is refusing the XDMCP connection. > > > > The archives and FAQ both state that I only need to change the [Xdmcp] > > section in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc file to Enabled=true. Which I have > > done. But still no luck, I've also tried modifying the settings for xdm, > > setting the port to connect to as 177, and moving the > > /usr/bin/kdm program. > > > > My Xaccess file should allow direct connections from any machines (that > > seems to be the default setup). > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Jeremy > > > From jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk Tue Apr 9 12:11:00 2002 From: jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk (Jeremy Wilkins) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 12:11:00 -0000 Subject: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake References: Message-ID: <00dd01c1dffa$eb8981c0$0a00a8c0@bytenet> Hi, Just thinking, I'm fairly sure the network is working happily, I can use ssh with out problem, and run X apps on the linux box, displaying on the NT box. I can even use launch cygwin X, ssh into the linux bottom, set DISPLAY and run startkde, at which point KDE loads happily on the cygwin display, it's just the XDMCP stuff thats not running. Jeremy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Hunt" To: "Jeremy Wilkins" ; Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 7:45 PM Subject: RE: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake > Jeremy, > > For starters, did you restart kdm after you changed the setting in kdmrc? > > You should be able to leave out the -from parameer now. > > Do you have multiple network cards in your NT machine, or token ring? > > Harold > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jeremy Wilkins > > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 2:41 PM > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > > Subject: XDM: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to get X to connect to linux mandrake running in a virtual > > machine (sadly I don't have access to multiple computers). I'm using the > > command line > > Xwin -once -query linux -from nt > > > > but X times out with the error XDM: too many retransmissions. > > > > It seems that the linux box is refusing the XDMCP connection. > > > > The archives and FAQ both state that I only need to change the [Xdmcp] > > section in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc file to Enabled=true. Which I have > > done. But still no luck, I've also tried modifying the settings for xdm, > > setting the port to connect to as 177, and moving the > > /usr/bin/kdm program. > > > > My Xaccess file should allow direct connections from any machines (that > > seems to be the default setup). > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Jeremy > > > From health_n_wealth@comcast.net Tue Apr 9 14:01:00 2002 From: health_n_wealth@comcast.net (health_n_wealth@comcast.net) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 14:01:00 -0000 Subject: New Weight Loss Product Message-ID: 

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From: health_n_wealth@comcast.net (health_n_wealth@comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 14:02:00 -0000
Subject: New Weight Loss Product
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From: health_n_wealth@comcast.net (health_n_wealth@comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 14:03:00 -0000
Subject: New Weight Loss Product
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From: health_n_wealth@comcast.net (health_n_wealth@comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 14:03:00 -0000
Subject: New Weight Loss Product
Message-ID: 



Dear cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com,

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??	No Ephedra! No Ma Huang! No harmful stimulants!
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??	Preliminary results are better than those published by the weight loss leaders!
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From: health_n_wealth@comcast.net (health_n_wealth@comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 14:03:00 -0000
Subject: New Weight Loss Product
Message-ID: 



Dear cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com,

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??	No Ephedra! No Ma Huang! No harmful stimulants!
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??	Preliminary results are better than those published by the weight loss leaders!
??	Clinical trials show significant and consistent weight loss, plus bonus health benefits! 
??	Participants reporting successful weight loss where other programs failed!
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From: health_n_wealth@comcast.net (health_n_wealth@comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 14:03:00 -0000
Subject: New Weight Loss Product
Message-ID: 



Dear cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com,

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??	Nutritional fuel formulated to activate the body's natural Power Centers that fight FAT!
??	No Ephedra! No Ma Huang! No harmful stimulants!
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??	Preliminary results are better than those published by the weight loss leaders!
??	Clinical trials show significant and consistent weight loss, plus bonus health benefits! 
??	Participants reporting successful weight loss where other programs failed!
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From: health_n_wealth@comcast.net (health_n_wealth@comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 14:05:00 -0000
Subject: New Weight Loss Product
Message-ID: 



Dear cygwin-xfree@xfree86.cygwin.com,

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??	A safe, consistent, long lasting way to lose weight, maintain muscle and become healthier.
??	Nutritional fuel formulated to activate the body's natural Power Centers that fight FAT!
??	No Ephedra! No Ma Huang! No harmful stimulants!
OASIS BEATS THE "HEAVYWEIGHTS" OF THE INDUSTRY!
??	Preliminary results are better than those published by the weight loss leaders!
??	Clinical trials show significant and consistent weight loss, plus bonus health benefits! 
??	Participants reporting successful weight loss where other programs failed!
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From health_n_wealth@comcast.net  Tue Apr  9 14:05:00 2002
From: health_n_wealth@comcast.net (health_n_wealth@comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 14:05:00 -0000
Subject: New Weight Loss Product
Message-ID: 



Dear cygwin-xfree@xfree86.cygwin.com,

IT'S COMING!!!
GET READY TO LOOSE WEIGHT
 ANABOLIC WEIGHT LOSS !!!!
IN LESS THAN 10 DAYS OASIS WILL LAUNCH A NEW ROCKET !
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??	A double blind, placebo controlled, clinically tested Weight Management System developed to Throw The Fat-Burning Switch!
??	A safe, consistent, long lasting way to lose weight, maintain muscle and become healthier.
??	Nutritional fuel formulated to activate the body's natural Power Centers that fight FAT!
??	No Ephedra! No Ma Huang! No harmful stimulants!
OASIS BEATS THE "HEAVYWEIGHTS" OF THE INDUSTRY!
??	Preliminary results are better than those published by the weight loss leaders!
??	Clinical trials show significant and consistent weight loss, plus bonus health benefits! 
??	Participants reporting successful weight loss where other programs failed!
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From elik@bhphotovideo.com  Tue Apr  9 14:53:00 2002
From: elik@bhphotovideo.com (Eli Kleinman)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 14:53:00 -0000
Subject: How do I change fonts in xfree86?
Message-ID: <3CB32B66.22789.49D41558@localhost>

Hi all

I am using my CDE form a Solaris box on my local PC by ruining 
xfree86 this is what I type
#xwin -noreset -screen 0 1152 864 -query "server ip" -from "my pc 
ip"
And the fonts that I get are bold.
How do I change the font size, bold, not bold, different font etc.

Please help
Thanks in advance
Eli


From dlee@managedobjects.com  Tue Apr  9 15:46:00 2002
From: dlee@managedobjects.com (Lee, David S.)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 15:46:00 -0000
Subject: some help with xWin
Message-ID: <3E89CD1EE5814142A6278A6F7077C3F6036F36@mailman2.mosol.com>


All -


I have succesfully installed cygwin/xfree and when attempting to use XWin
with XDM for solaris even using the -fp tcp/box:7100, I get a creen that is
grey with a X as the cursor.  Can anyone help on what I am doing wrong?  I
have attached 2 snapshots 


David S. Lee
Manager, Technical Operations

Managed Objects, Inc.
7925 Westpark Drive
McLean, VA 22102
Office: 703-208-3330
Cell:    415-250-6115



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David S. Lee
Manager, Technical Operations

Managed Objects, Inc.
7925 Westpark Drive
McLean, VA 22102
Office: 703-208-3330
Cell:    415-250-6115

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From iburrell@znark.com  Tue Apr  9 16:49:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 16:49:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
References: <20020409001316.GE20382@redhat.com>  <20020409130227.GA2005@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3CB37DEB.3040409@znark.com>

Christopher Faylor wrote:
> 
> Yep, as Robert indicated, this has been possible for a while.
> 
> For Cygwin/XFree86, what I'd like to do is have you all come up with
> a few .tar.bz2 files which install into a /usr/X11R6,
> /etc/X11, etc.
> 

I repackaged the current .tgz files as .tar.bz2 files. I created a 
rudimentary setup.ini file and was able to install them with setup.exe 
from a local directory. I haven't yet created a proper hierarchy 
setup.hint files.

> The hierarchy would be something like:
> 
> xfree
>   base
>     setup.hint
>     XFree-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
>     XFree-4.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2
>   doc
>     setup.hint
>     XFree-doc-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
>   devel
>     setup.hint
>     XFree86-devel-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
>     XFree86-devel-4.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2
> 
> 

The packages I made were:

xfree-base-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (11MB; Xbin, Xman, Xlib, Xxserv, Xetc)
xfree-devel-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (595kB; Xprog)
xfree-doc-txt-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (1.3MB; Xdoc)
xfree-doc-html-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (905kB; Xhtml)
xfree-doc-ps-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (4.4MB; Xps)
xfree-fonts-100dpi-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (12MB; Xf100)
xfree-fonts-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (18MB; Xfnts, Xfscl, Xfenc; required)
xfree-fonts-cyrillic-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (364kB, Xfcyr)
xfree-xfs-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (202kB; Xfsrv)
xfree-xnest-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (1.1MB; Xnest)
xfree-xprt-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (791kB; Xprt)
xfree-xvfb-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (1.2MB; Xvfb)

Is it possible to have multiple packages in a subdirectory and 
setup.hint file? Or does each package needs its own directory? For a 
hierarchy, I was thinking: base, devel, doc, fonts, and progs (for the 
optional servers).

There are a couple of refinements that can be made to the repackaging. 
First, the 75dpi fonts make up the bulk (10MB) of the fonts package and 
aren't strictly required. They could be made their own package. The 
miscellaneous fonts could be folded into the base package so there is 
only one required package.

Second, move the man3 man pages into the devel package. Also, move the 
.a files in /usr/X11R6/lib into devel. That reduces the base package by 
a couple MB.

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Tue Apr  9 17:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 17:00:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Burrell [mailto:iburrell@znark.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:49 AM

> Is it possible to have multiple packages in a subdirectory and 
> setup.hint file? Or does each package needs its own directory? 

Each package needs it's own directory.

> For a 
> hierarchy, I was thinking: base, devel, doc, fonts, and progs 
> (for the 
> optional servers). 

I'm not clear not the hierarchy there - that reads like a list to me. 
You've got two clauses you can independently use to make a hierarchy and
package dependencies - category:(i.e. the devel tarball belongs in
XFree86 and in Devel) and requires: (i.e. the server package requires
the fonts and the programs and ...)

> There are a couple of refinements that can be made to the 
> repackaging. 
> First, the 75dpi fonts make up the bulk (10MB) of the fonts 
> package and 
> aren't strictly required. They could be made their own package. The 
> miscellaneous fonts could be folded into the base package so there is 
> only one required package.
> 
> Second, move the man3 man pages into the devel package. Also, 
> move the 
> .a files in /usr/X11R6/lib into devel. That reduces the base 
> package by 
> a couple MB.

Those refinements can be made at any point - there's no need to have it
perfect on first release. Setup.exe is quite capable of handling files
moving from one package to another now.

Rob


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Tue Apr  9 17:18:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 17:18:00 -0000
Subject: Just a note - nativegdi engine
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:57 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: Just a note - nativegdi engine
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:47:58AM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> > 2) I'm working on, I suspect it's a coordinate translation thing. I 
> > get lovely background stipple but not (AFAICT solid fills).
> > 
> Rob,
> 
> Take a look at wingc.c and set miTranslate to 0 (FALSE).

Already tried that :}. Does that intelligently translate - i.e. will
code for pixmaps be unaffected, and only window drawables get
translated/not translated?

Rob


From iburrell@znark.com  Tue Apr  9 17:56:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 17:56:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
References: 
Message-ID: <3CB38DC4.4090204@znark.com>

Robert Collins wrote:
> 
> I'm not clear not the hierarchy there - that reads like a list to me. 
> You've got two clauses you can independently use to make a hierarchy and
> package dependencies - category:(i.e. the devel tarball belongs in
> XFree86 and in Devel) and requires: (i.e. the server package requires
> the fonts and the programs and ...)
> 

That is a list of subdirectories. But it won't work since the each 
package needs its own subdirectory. A better hiearchy would use the 
components from the package names. Hopefully, multiple levels of 
subdirectories will work.

xfree:
   base:
     xfree-base-4.2.0.tar.bz2
   devel:
     xfree-devel-4.2.0.tar.bz2
   doc:
     html:
       xfree-doc-html-4.2.0.tar.bz2
     ps:
       xfree-doc-ps-4.2.0.tar.bz2
     txt:
       xfree-doc-txt-4.2.0.tar.bz2
   fonts:
     100dpi:
       xfree-fonts-100dpi-4.2.0.tar.bz2
     75dpi:
       xfree-fonts-75dpi-4.2.0.tar.bz2
     misc:
       xfree-fonts-misc-4.2.0.tar.bz2
   xfs:
     xfree-xfs-4.2.0.tar.bz2
   xnest:
     xfree-xnest-4.2.0.tar.bz2
   xprt:
     xfree-xprt-4.2.0.tar.bz2
   xvfb:
     xfree-xvfb-4.2.0.tar.bz2

> 
> Those refinements can be made at any point - there's no need to have it
> perfect on first release. Setup.exe is quite capable of handling files
> moving from one package to another now.
> 

They were simple changes to the script I wrote to repackage the 
distributed archives. I'll try to write proper setup.hint files for all 
the packages.

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Tue Apr  9 18:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:00:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Burrell [mailto:iburrell@znark.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:57 AM
> That is a list of subdirectories. But it won't work since the each 
> package needs its own subdirectory. A better hiearchy would use the 
> components from the package names. Hopefully, multiple levels of 
> subdirectories will work.
> 
> xfree:
>    base:
...
>    xvfb:
>      xfree-xvfb-4.2.0.tar.bz2

As a directory layout, that should be fine.
 
> > 
> > Those refinements can be made at any point - there's no 
> need to have it
> > perfect on first release. Setup.exe is quite capable of 
> handling files
> > moving from one package to another now.
> > 
> 
> They were simple changes to the script I wrote to repackage the 
> distributed archives. I'll try to write proper setup.hint 
> files for all 
> the packages.

Cool.

Rob


From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr  9 18:03:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:03:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <3CB38DC4.4090204@znark.com>
References:  <3CB38DC4.4090204@znark.com>
Message-ID: <20020410010316.GD23551@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 05:56:36PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
>Robert Collins wrote:
>>
>>I'm not clear not the hierarchy there - that reads like a list to me. 
>>You've got two clauses you can independently use to make a hierarchy and
>>package dependencies - category:(i.e. the devel tarball belongs in
>>XFree86 and in Devel) and requires: (i.e. the server package requires
>>the fonts and the programs and ...)
>>
>
>That is a list of subdirectories. But it won't work since the each 
>package needs its own subdirectory. A better hiearchy would use the 
>components from the package names. Hopefully, multiple levels of 
>subdirectories will work.
>
>xfree:
>  base:
>    xfree-base-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>  devel:
>    xfree-devel-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>  doc:
>    html:
>      xfree-doc-html-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>    ps:
>      xfree-doc-ps-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>    txt:
>      xfree-doc-txt-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>  fonts:
>    100dpi:
>      xfree-fonts-100dpi-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>    75dpi:
>      xfree-fonts-75dpi-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>    misc:
>      xfree-fonts-misc-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>  xfs:
>    xfree-xfs-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>  xnest:
>    xfree-xnest-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>  xprt:
>    xfree-xprt-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>  xvfb:
>    xfree-xvfb-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>
>>
>>Those refinements can be made at any point - there's no need to have it
>>perfect on first release. Setup.exe is quite capable of handling files
>>moving from one package to another now.
>>
>
>They were simple changes to the script I wrote to repackage the 
>distributed archives. I'll try to write proper setup.hint files for all 
>the packages.

There's no need to go into too much information in the ldesc, fwiw.
And, the sdesc field can be pretty brief, too, IMO.  If you have Red Hat
linux installed somewhere, you might be able to get some info from the
'rpm -q -i' command, applying it to various installed XFree86 packages.

Btw, should the directory be called xfree or xfree86 or XFree86?

I assume the category for this should be XFree86, right?

cgf


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Tue Apr  9 18:16:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:16:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
References:  <3CB38DC4.4090204@znark.com>
Message-ID: <3CB3925C.80806@ece.gatech.edu>



Ian Burrell wrote:


> That is a list of subdirectories. But it won't work since the each 
> package needs its own subdirectory. A better hiearchy would use the 
> components from the package names. Hopefully, multiple levels of 
> subdirectories will work.


Yep.  Subdirs work fine.  For instance, the following are *currently* in 
use:

cygwin/latest/ncurses/
cygwin/latest/ncurses/setup.hint
cygwin/latest/ncurses/ncurses-5.2-?.tar.bz2
cygwin/latest/ncurses/ncurses-5.2-?-src.tar.bz2
cygwin/latest/ncurses/libncurses5/
cygwin/latest/ncurses/libncurses5/setup.hint
cygwin/latest/ncurses/libncurses5/libncurses5-5.2-?.tar.bz2
cygwin/latest/ncurses/libncurses5/libncurses5-5.2-?.tar.bz2
cygwin/latest/ncurses/libncurses6/
cygwin/latest/ncurses/libncurses6/setup.hint
cygwin/latest/ncurses/libncurses6/libncurses6-5.2-?.tar.bz2
cygwin/latest/ncurses/libncurses6/libncurses6-5.2-?.tar.bz2

Also, see gettext/libintl, readline/libreadline, etc.

--Chuck



From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Tue Apr  9 18:22:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:22:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
References: 
Message-ID: <3CB393D6.4030405@ece.gatech.edu>



Robert Collins wrote:


>>They were simple changes to the script I wrote to repackage the 
>>distributed archives. I'll try to write proper setup.hint 
>>files for all 
>>the packages.
>>
> 
> Cool.


I'm unclear about how the -src packages (are/should be) handled, since 
there are a great many "binary" packages in XFree, but only a few 
original "source" packages.  In the past, when multiple "binary" 
packages are generated from a single "source" package, we've done the 
following:

ncurses-5.2-?-src.tar.bz2
   contains the actual src dist for ncurses/libncurses, with
   cygwin patches, build scripts, etc

However, building this -src generates two "binary" packages:
   ncurses-5.2-?.tar.bz2
   libncurses6-5.2-?.tar.bz2

So, we create an empty
   libncurses6-5.2-?-src.tar.bz2
that contains only a single README that says "go look over there, in 
ncurses-5.2-?-src.tar.bz2".

Now, this works, and upset/setup are happy (every binary package has a 
"src" package) but it is hackish, ugly, and a pain to maintain.  Is 
there a better solution?  (Or can we discard the psuedo-src packages 
without repurcussion?  Won't upset be upset by the "bin without src" 
problem?)

--Chuck




From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr  9 18:26:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:26:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <3CB393D6.4030405@ece.gatech.edu>
References:  <3CB393D6.4030405@ece.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <20020410012626.GI23551@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:22:30PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote:
>Now, this works, and upset/setup are happy (every binary package has a 
>"src" package) but it is hackish, ugly, and a pain to maintain.  Is 
>there a better solution?  (Or can we discard the psuedo-src packages 
>without repurcussion?  Won't upset be upset by the "bin without src" 
>problem?)

If it is upset I'll be upset.

It should be acceptable to have bin without source.

If it causes a problem, I'll fix it.

cgf


From iburrell@znark.com  Tue Apr  9 18:34:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:34:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
References: 
Message-ID: <3CB396A5.1070803@znark.com>

Is the script for building setup.ini files from a directory hierarchy 
available anywhere? I want to setup a test install directory with the 
full hierarchy and setup.hint files.

Also, I ran into a problem with the xfree-fonts-100dpi and 
xfree-fonts-75dpi packages. With a hand-generated setup.ini, they 
weren't being displayed. This might be because the last component starts 
with a number and something is confused about where the version starts. 
The lines in my setup.ini are:

@ xfree-fonts-100dpi
sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 100dpi fonts"
category: XFree86
requires: xfree-base
version: 4.2.0-1


@ xfree-fonts-75dpi
sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 75pi fonts"
category: XFree86
requires: xfree-base
version: 4.2.0-1


  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Tue Apr  9 18:43:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:43:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
References:  <3CB393D6.4030405@ece.gatech.edu> <20020410012626.GI23551@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3CB398DA.2010202@ece.gatech.edu>

Christopher Faylor wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:22:30PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote:
> 
>>Now, this works, and upset/setup are happy (every binary package has a 
>>"src" package) but it is hackish, ugly, and a pain to maintain.  Is 
>>there a better solution?  (Or can we discard the psuedo-src packages 
>>without repurcussion?  Won't upset be upset by the "bin without src" 
>>problem?)
>>
> 
> If it is upset I'll be upset.
> 
> It should be acceptable to have bin without source.
> 
> If it causes a problem, I'll fix it.


That's great.  (I'm not planning on needlessly changing my packages, but 
perhaps the next time they must be updated for other reasons, I'll drop 
the psuedo-src packages).

However, is there any way we can add to the setup/upset grammar an 
optional keyword like:

(within libncurses6's setup.hint)
    external-src: ncurses

which instructs upset to fill the setup.ini thus:

@ ncurses
sdesc: blah blah
ldesc: blah blah
category: Base Libs
requires: cygwin terminfo libncurses6
version: 5.2-8
install: latest/ncurses/ncurses-5.2-8.tar.bz2
source: latest/ncurses/ncurses-5.2-8-src.tar.bz2
[prev]
install: latest/ncurses/ncurses-5.2-7.tar.bz2
source: latest/ncurses/ncurses-5.2-7-src.tar.bz2

@libncurses6
sdesc: blah blah
ldesc: blah blah
category: Base Libs
requires: cygwin terminfo
version: 5.2-8
install: latest/ncurses/libncurses6/libncurses6-5.2-8.tar.bz2
source: latest/ncurses/ncurses-5.2-8-src.tar.bz2
[prev]
install: latest/ncurses/libncurses6/libncurses6-5.2-7.tar.bz2
source: latest/ncurses/ncurses-5.2-7-src.tar.bz2

e.g. keying off the version of libncurses, find the matching versioned 
-src package of whatever is specified in the external-src: field in 
libncurses6's setup.hint...

This would require conflict avoidance within setup.exe, too -- the src 
chkboxes for ncurses and libncurses6 should be tied together in this case...

Or is this just not worth worrying about?

--Chuck




From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr  9 18:47:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:47:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <3CB398DA.2010202@ece.gatech.edu>
References:  <3CB393D6.4030405@ece.gatech.edu> <20020410012626.GI23551@redhat.com> <3CB398DA.2010202@ece.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <20020410014703.GM23551@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:43:54PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote:
>>If it is upset I'll be upset.
>>
>>It should be acceptable to have bin without source.
>>
>>If it causes a problem, I'll fix it.
>
>That's great.  (I'm not planning on needlessly changing my packages, but 
>perhaps the next time they must be updated for other reasons, I'll drop 
>the psuedo-src packages).
>
>However, is there any way we can add to the setup/upset grammar an 
>optional keyword like:
>
>(within libncurses6's setup.hint)
>   external-src: ncurses
>
>This would require conflict avoidance within setup.exe, too -- the src 
>chkboxes for ncurses and libncurses6 should be tied together in this case...
>
>Or is this just not worth worrying about?

I like the idea as far as upset is concerned.  It would be easy to add.

However, maybe the setup.exe part would be hairy.

cgf


From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr  9 18:53:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:53:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <3CB396A5.1070803@znark.com>
References:  <3CB396A5.1070803@znark.com>
Message-ID: <20020410015334.GO23551@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 06:34:29PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
>Is the script for building setup.ini files from a directory hierarchy 
>available anywhere? I want to setup a test install directory with the 
>full hierarchy and setup.hint files.
>
>Also, I ran into a problem with the xfree-fonts-100dpi and 
>xfree-fonts-75dpi packages. With a hand-generated setup.ini, they 
>weren't being displayed. This might be because the last component starts 
>with a number and something is confused about where the version starts. 

Yes, a -75dpi part of a tar file will look like a version number.

Can you use an underscore instead?

Just to be clear, you shouldn't be including the '@ xfree-fonts-100dpi'
or the version: in the setup.hint.  Those are only needed if you are
overriding defaults.

cgf

>The lines in my setup.ini are:
>
>@ xfree-fonts-100dpi
>sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 100dpi fonts"
>category: XFree86
>requires: xfree-base
>version: 4.2.0-1
>
>
>@ xfree-fonts-75dpi
>sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 75pi fonts"
>category: XFree86
>requires: xfree-base
>version: 4.2.0-1
>
>
> - Ian
>
>-- 
>iburrell@znark.com
>http://www.znark.com/


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Tue Apr  9 19:07:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 19:07:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Wilson [mailto:cwilson@ece.gatech.edu] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 11:23 AM

> Now, this works, and upset/setup are happy (every binary 
> package has a 
> "src" package) but it is hackish, ugly, and a pain to maintain.  Is 
> there a better solution?  (Or can we discard the psuedo-src packages 
> without repurcussion?  Won't upset be upset by the "bin without src" 
> problem?)

Setup won't be. It won't allow the src box to be ticked unless it knows
of a src package details.

Rob


From iburrell@znark.com  Tue Apr  9 19:10:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 19:10:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
References:  <3CB396A5.1070803@znark.com> <20020410015334.GO23551@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3CB39F07.7030203@znark.com>

Christopher Faylor wrote:
> 
> Yes, a -75dpi part of a tar file will look like a version number.
> 
> Can you use an underscore instead?
> 

I could use an underscore. I got it to work by changing it to dpi75. 
Shouldn't the name in the setup.ini file override that version number 
parsing?

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Tue Apr  9 19:20:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 19:20:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
References:  <3CB396A5.1070803@znark.com> <20020410015334.GO23551@redhat.com> <3CB39F07.7030203@znark.com>
Message-ID: <3CB3A10A.5000301@ece.gatech.edu>

Ian Burrell wrote:

> Christopher Faylor wrote:
> 
>>
>> Yes, a -75dpi part of a tar file will look like a version number.
>>
>> Can you use an underscore instead?
>>
> 
> I could use an underscore. I got it to work by changing it to dpi75. 
> Shouldn't the name in the setup.ini file override that version number 
> parsing?


Yeah, but cygcheck.exe also needs to be able to, at minimum, parse the 
version string of a given package (cygcheck -c).  We're not yet at the 
point of requiring setup.ini for proper cygcheck operation (and cygcheck 
doesn't REALLY need to know about package dependencies and -src tarballs 
and category information....)

I don't think it's that big a deal to require cygwin packages to follow 
a parseable naming scheme; ours is pretty lenient...when it fails, it's 
not a terrible imposition to either change a '-' to a '_', or swap some 
digits and alphabetics within a -XXXX- word.

--Chuck



From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Tue Apr  9 19:23:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 19:23:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Wilson [mailto:cwilson@ece.gatech.edu] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 12:19 PM

> I don't think it's that big a deal to require cygwin packages 
> to follow 
> a parseable naming scheme; ours is pretty lenient...when it 
> fails, it's 
> not a terrible imposition to either change a '-' to a '_', or 
> swap some 
> digits and alphabetics within a -XXXX- word.

And package file names are not directly used by humans 99% of the time.
That's what setup + cygcheck + upset are for.

Rob


From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr  9 19:42:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 19:42:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <3CB39F07.7030203@znark.com>
References:  <3CB396A5.1070803@znark.com> <20020410015334.GO23551@redhat.com> <3CB39F07.7030203@znark.com>
Message-ID: <20020410024203.GX23551@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 07:10:15PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>Yes, a -75dpi part of a tar file will look like a version number.
>>
>>Can you use an underscore instead?
>
>I could use an underscore.  I got it to work by changing it to dpi75.
>Shouldn't the name in the setup.ini file override that version number
>parsing?

Name?  Do you mean version?  If you put a version in setup.hint it
is currently ignored.

If you try to use something like

curr: 4.2.0-1

I believe that may confuse the upset parser.

cgf


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Tue Apr  9 19:42:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 19:42:00 -0000
Subject: makeNativeRgn
Message-ID: 

Alan,
  this may be of use to you: It's the region optimisation I mentioned
before. It seems a little faster to me, which indicates that some
(most?) of the calls have mulitple clip regions. 

There's a little extra stuff for the rootless mode in win.h, but it
won't hurt to have that committed - if you're willing.

There is also some rootless stuff (the #if 1-else-end and #if
0-else-end's) in winsetsp and winfillsp, and that stuff should NOT go
into CVS, but I didn't want to corrupt the patch by hand removing. You
should be able to do it easily in your sandbox... (it's only 2-3 lines
to delete).

Index: win.h
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvsroot/xoncygwin/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/win.h,v
retrieving revision 1.1.1.1.2.2
diff -u -p -r1.1.1.1.2.2 win.h
--- win.h	5 Feb 2002 18:47:39 -0000	1.1.1.1.2.2
+++ win.h	10 Apr 2002 02:39:46 -0000
@@ -268,7 +268,8 @@ typedef Bool (*winHotKeyAltTabPtr)(Scree
 
 typedef struct
 {
-  DWORD			dwDummy;
+  HWND			hwnd;
+  HDC			hdc;
 } winPrivWinRec, *winPrivWinPtr;
 
 typedef struct
@@ -414,6 +415,7 @@ extern miPointerScreenFuncRec	g_winPoint
 extern DWORD			g_dwEvents;
 extern int			g_fdMessageQueue;
 extern int			g_iScreenPrivateIndex;
+extern int			g_iWindowPrivateIndex;
 extern int			g_iCmapPrivateIndex;
 extern int			g_iGCPrivateIndex;
 extern int			g_iPixmapPrivateIndex;
@@ -553,6 +555,8 @@ winBlockHandler (int nScreen,
 
 RegionPtr
 winPixmapToRegionNativeGDI (PixmapPtr pPix);
+HRGN
+makeNativeRgn (RegionPtr const pRegion);
 
 
 /*
Index: winclip.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvsroot/xoncygwin/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winclip.c,v
retrieving revision 1.1.1.1.2.1
diff -u -p -r1.1.1.1.2.1 winclip.c
--- winclip.c	7 Feb 2002 21:34:19 -0000	1.1.1.1.2.1
+++ winclip.c	10 Apr 2002 02:39:46 -0000
@@ -248,3 +248,33 @@ winPixmapToRegionNativeGDI (PixmapPtr pP
 #endif
   return(pReg);
 }
+
+HRGN
+makeNativeRgn (RegionPtr const pRegion)
+{
+  BoxPtr pbox;
+  int nbox;
+  HRGN rv;
+  nbox = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pRegion);
+  pbox = REGION_RECTS (pRegion);
+  rv = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2, pbox->y2);
+  --nbox;
+  ++pbox;
+  while (nbox--)
+    {
+      int combinerv;
+      HRGN tempRgn;
+      tempRgn = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2, pbox->y2);
+      combinerv = CombineRgn (rv, rv, tempRgn, RGN_OR);
+      if (combinerv == ERROR)
+	{
+	  ErrorF ("makeNativeRgn: Failed to create native region %u\n",
GetLastError());
+	  DeleteObject (rv);
+	  return NULL;
+	}
+      DeleteObject (tempRgn);
+      ++pbox;
+    }
+  return rv;
+}
+
Index: winsetsp.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvsroot/xoncygwin/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winsetsp.c,v
retrieving revision 1.1.1.1.2.8
diff -u -p -r1.1.1.1.2.8 winsetsp.c
--- winsetsp.c	19 Feb 2002 20:31:25 -0000	1.1.1.1.2.8
+++ winsetsp.c	10 Apr 2002 02:39:46 -0000
@@ -27,6 +27,7 @@
  *
  * Authors:	Harold L Hunt II
  * 		Alan Hourihane 
+ *		Robert Collins 
  */
 /* $XFree86: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winsetsp.c,v 1.6 2001/10/22
15:21:12 alanh Exp $ */
 
@@ -48,8 +49,6 @@ winSetSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDrawa
   HBITMAP		hbmpOrig = NULL;
   BITMAPINFO		bmi;
   HRGN			hrgn;
-  int			n;
-  BoxPtr	 	pbox;
 
   /* Branch on the drawable type */
   switch (pDrawable->type)
@@ -67,8 +66,6 @@ winSetSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDrawa
 
       while (iSpans--)
         {
-	  n = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pGC->pCompositeClip);
-	  pbox = REGION_RECTS (pGC->pCompositeClip);
 
 	  ZeroMemory (&bmi, sizeof (BITMAPINFO));
 	  bmi.bmiHeader.biSize = sizeof (BITMAPINFOHEADER);
@@ -85,14 +82,14 @@ winSetSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDrawa
       	      bmi.bmiColors[1].rgbGreen = 255;
       	      bmi.bmiColors[1].rgbRed = 255;
     	    }
-
-	  while (n--)
+	  
+	  hrgn = makeNativeRgn (pGC->pCompositeClip);
+	  if (hrgn)
 	    {
-	      hrgn = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2,
pbox->y2);
 	      SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdcMem, hrgn);
 	      DeleteObject (hrgn);
 	      hrgn = NULL;
-
+	      
 	      StretchDIBits (pGCPriv->hdcMem, 
 			     pPoints->x, pPoints->y,
 			     *piWidths, 1,
@@ -102,7 +99,6 @@ winSetSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDrawa
 			     (BITMAPINFO *) &bmi,
 			     DIB_RGB_COLORS,
 			     g_copyROP[pGC->alu]);
-	      pbox++;
 	    }
 
 	  pSrcs += PixmapBytePad (*piWidths, pDrawable->depth);
@@ -118,10 +114,18 @@ winSetSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDrawa
       break;
 
     case DRAWABLE_WINDOW:
+      {
+	HDC hdc;
+	WindowPtr pWin = (WindowPtr) pDrawable;
+	winPrivWinRec *pPrivWin;
+	pPrivWin = (winPrivWinRec
*)(pWin->devPrivates[g_iWindowPrivateIndex].ptr);
+#if 0
+        hdc = pPrivWin->hdc;
+#else
+        hdc = pGCPriv->hdc;
+#endif
       while (iSpans--)
         {
-	  n = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pGC->pCompositeClip);
-	  pbox = REGION_RECTS (pGC->pCompositeClip);
 
 	  ZeroMemory (&bmi, sizeof (BITMAPINFO));
 	  bmi.bmiHeader.biSize = sizeof (BITMAPINFOHEADER);
@@ -139,14 +143,14 @@ winSetSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDrawa
       	      bmi.bmiColors[1].rgbRed = 255;
     	    }
 
-	  while (n--)
+	  hrgn = makeNativeRgn (pGC->pCompositeClip);
+	  if (hrgn)
 	    {
-	      hrgn = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2,
pbox->y2);
-	      SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdc, hrgn);
+	      SelectClipRgn (hdc, hrgn);
 	      DeleteObject (hrgn);
 	      hrgn = NULL;
-
-	      StretchDIBits (pGCPriv->hdc, 
+	      
+	      StretchDIBits (hdc, 
 			     pPoints->x, pPoints->y,
 			     *piWidths, 1,
 			     0, 0,
@@ -155,7 +159,6 @@ winSetSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDrawa
 			     (BITMAPINFO *) &bmi,
 			     DIB_RGB_COLORS,
 			     g_copyROP[pGC->alu]);
-	      pbox++;
 	    }
 
 	  pSrcs += PixmapBytePad (*piWidths, pDrawable->depth);
@@ -164,7 +167,9 @@ winSetSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDrawa
         }
 
       /* Reset the clip region */
-      SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdc, NULL);
+      /* TODO: Restore a saved region */
+      SelectClipRgn (hdc, NULL);
+      }
       break;
 
     case UNDRAWABLE_WINDOW:
Index: winfillsp.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvsroot/xoncygwin/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winfillsp.c,v
retrieving revision 1.1.1.1.2.13
diff -u -p -r1.1.1.1.2.13 winfillsp.c
--- winfillsp.c	19 Feb 2002 20:31:24 -0000	1.1.1.1.2.13
+++ winfillsp.c	10 Apr 2002 02:39:46 -0000
@@ -143,21 +143,19 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	
 	      if (fullX1 >= fullX2)
 		continue;
-	
-	      nbox = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pClip);
-	      pbox = REGION_RECTS (pClip);
-	      while (nbox--)
+
+	      hrgn = makeNativeRgn (pClip);
+	      if (hrgn)
 		{
-	      	  hrgn = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2,
pbox->y2);
 		  SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdcMem, hrgn);
-		  DeleteObject (hrgn);
-		  hrgn = NULL;
+	    	  DeleteObject (hrgn);
+    		  hrgn = NULL;
 
-	      	  MoveToEx (pGCPriv->hdcMem, fullX1, fullY1, NULL);
-	      	  LineTo (pGCPriv->hdcMem, fullX2, fullY1);
-		  pbox++;
+		  MoveToEx (pGCPriv->hdcMem, fullX1, fullY1, NULL);
+		  LineTo (pGCPriv->hdcMem, fullX2, fullY1);
 		}
 	    }
+	    
 
           SetROP2 (pGCPriv->hdcMem, R2_COPYPEN);
 
@@ -258,24 +256,20 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	      if (fullX1 >= fullX2)
 		continue;
 	
-	      nbox = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pClip);
-	      pbox = REGION_RECTS (pClip);
- 	      while (nbox--)
-	        {
-	     	  hrgn = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2,
pbox->y2);
+	      hrgn = makeNativeRgn (pClip);
+	      if (hrgn)
+		{
 		  SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdcMem, hrgn);
 		  DeleteObject (hrgn);
 		  hrgn = NULL;
-
+		  
 		  for (iX = fullX1; iX < fullX2; iX +=
pStipple->drawable.width)
 		    {
 		      int width;
-
 		      if ((iX + pStipple->drawable.width) > fullX2)
 			width = fullX2 - iX;
 		      else
 			width = pStipple->drawable.width;
-
 		      BitBlt (pGCPriv->hdcMem,
 			      iX, fullY1,
 			      width, 1,
@@ -284,8 +278,6 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 			      fullY1 % pStipple->drawable.height,
 			      g_copyROP[pGC->alu]);
 		    }
-
-		  pbox++;
 		}
 	    }
 
@@ -333,25 +325,22 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	
 	      if (fullX1 >= fullX2)
 		continue;
-	
-	      nbox = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pClip);
-	      pbox = REGION_RECTS (pClip);
- 	      while (nbox--)
-	        {
-	     	  hrgn = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2,
pbox->y2);
+
+	      hrgn = makeNativeRgn (pClip);
+	      if (hrgn)
+		{
 		  SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdcMem, hrgn);
-	    	  DeleteObject (hrgn);
+		  DeleteObject (hrgn);
 		  hrgn = NULL;
 
-	    	  for (iX = fullX1; iX < fullX2; iX +=
pTile->drawable.width)
-	      	    {
+		  for (iX = fullX1; iX < fullX2; iX +=
pTile->drawable.width)
+		    {
 		      int width;
 
 		      if ((iX + pTile->drawable.width) > fullX2)
 			width = fullX2 - iX;
 		      else
 			width = pTile->drawable.width;
-
 		      BitBlt (pGCPriv->hdcMem,
 			      iX, fullY1,
 			      width, 1,
@@ -360,7 +349,6 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 			      fullY1 % pTile->drawable.height,
 			      g_copyROP[pGC->alu]);
 		    }
-		  pbox++;
 		}
 	    }
 
@@ -384,20 +372,36 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
       break;
       
     case DRAWABLE_WINDOW:
+      {
+	HDC hdc;
+	WindowPtr pWin = (WindowPtr) pDrawable;
+	winPrivWinRec *pPrivWin;
+	BoxPtr pBoundingBox;
+	pPrivWin = (winPrivWinRec
*)(pWin->devPrivates[g_iWindowPrivateIndex].ptr);
+	
+#if 0
+	hdc = pPrivWin->hdc;
+	/* Translating the GC is unreliable? */
+	pBoundingBox = REGION_EXTENTS ((pWin->winSize.pScreen),
&(pWin->winSize));
+/*	SetViewportOrgEx (hdc, pBoundingBox->x1, pBoundingBox->y1,
NULL);
+ */
+#else
+	hdc = pGCPriv->hdc;
+#endif
       /* Branch on fill style */
       switch (pGC->fillStyle)
 	{
 	case FillSolid:
 
-          ROP16 (pGCPriv->hdc, pGC->alu);
+          ROP16 (hdc, pGC->alu);
 
 	  if (pDrawable->depth == 1) 
 	    {
 	      if (pGC->fgPixel == 0)
-		hPenOrig = SelectObject (pGCPriv->hdc, 
+		hPenOrig = SelectObject (hdc, 
 					 GetStockObject (BLACK_PEN));
 	      else
-		hPenOrig = SelectObject (pGCPriv->hdc,
+		hPenOrig = SelectObject (hdc,
 					 GetStockObject (WHITE_PEN));
 	    } 
 	  else 
@@ -405,11 +409,12 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	      fg = pGC->fgPixel;
 	      TRANSLATE_COLOR (fg);
 	      hPen = CreatePen (PS_SOLID, 0, fg);
-	      hPenOrig = SelectObject (pGCPriv->hdc, hPen);
+	      hPenOrig = SelectObject (hdc, hPen);
 	    }
 
 	  while (iSpans--)
 	    {
+	      HRGN clipRegion;
 	      fullX1 = pPoints->x;
 	      fullY1 = pPoints->y;
 	      fullX2 = fullX1 + (int) *piWidths;
@@ -426,26 +431,23 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	
 	      if (fullX1 >= fullX2)
 		continue;
-	
-	      nbox = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pClip);
-	      pbox = REGION_RECTS (pClip);
-	      while (nbox--)
+
+	      hrgn = makeNativeRgn (pClip);
+	      if (hrgn)
 		{
-	      	  hrgn = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2,
pbox->y2);
-		  SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdc, hrgn);
+		  SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdcMem, hrgn);
 		  DeleteObject (hrgn);
 		  hrgn = NULL;
 
-	     	  MoveToEx (pGCPriv->hdc, fullX1, fullY1, NULL);
-	     	  LineTo (pGCPriv->hdc, fullX2, fullY1);
-		  pbox++;
+		  MoveToEx (hdc, fullX1, fullY1, NULL);
+		  LineTo (hdc, fullX2, fullY1);
 		}
 	    }
 
-          SetROP2 (pGCPriv->hdc, R2_COPYPEN);
+          SetROP2 (hdc, R2_COPYPEN);
 
 	  /* Give back the Brush */
-	  SelectObject (pGCPriv->hdc, hPenOrig);
+	  SelectObject (hdc, hPenOrig);
 
 	  if (pDrawable->depth != 1)
 	    DeleteObject (hPen);
@@ -465,7 +467,7 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 				    DIB_RGB_COLORS);
 
 	  /* Create a memory DC to hold the stipple */
-	  hdcStipple = CreateCompatibleDC (pGCPriv->hdc);
+	  hdcStipple = CreateCompatibleDC (hdc);
 
 	  /* Select the stipple bitmap into the stipple DC */
 	  hbmpOrigStipple = SelectObject (hdcStipple, hBitmap);
@@ -487,8 +489,8 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	   */
 	  if (pGC->bgPixel != -1 && pGC->fgPixel != -1) 
 	    {
-	      SetTextColor (pGCPriv->hdc, fg);
-	      SetBkColor (pGCPriv->hdc, bg);
+	      SetTextColor (hdc, fg);
+	      SetBkColor (hdc, bg);
 	      BitBlt (hdcStipple,
 		      0, 0,
 		      pStipple->drawable.width,
pStipple->drawable.height,
@@ -498,8 +500,8 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	    } 
 	  else if (pGC->bgPixel == -1) 
 	    {
-	      SetTextColor (pGCPriv->hdc, fg);
-	      SetBkMode (pGCPriv->hdc, TRANSPARENT);
+	      SetTextColor (hdc, fg);
+	      SetBkMode (hdc, TRANSPARENT);
 	      BitBlt (hdcStipple,
 		      0, 0,
 		      pStipple->drawable.width,
pStipple->drawable.height,
@@ -509,8 +511,8 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	    } 
 	  else if (pGC->fgPixel == -1) 
 	    {
-	      SetTextColor (pGCPriv->hdc, bg);
-	      SetBkMode (pGCPriv->hdc, TRANSPARENT);
+	      SetTextColor (hdc, bg);
+	      SetBkMode (hdc, TRANSPARENT);
 #if 0
 	      BitBlt (hdcStipple,
 		      0, 0,
@@ -539,26 +541,23 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	
 	      if (fullX1 >= fullX2)
 		continue;
-	
-	      nbox = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pClip);
-	      pbox = REGION_RECTS (pClip);
- 	      while (nbox--)
-	        {
-	     	  hrgn = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2,
pbox->y2);
-		  SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdc, hrgn);
+
+	      hrgn = makeNativeRgn (pClip);
+	      if (hrgn)
+		{
+		  /* TODO: should we intersect the clip region? */
+		  SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdcMem, hrgn);
 		  DeleteObject (hrgn);
 		  hrgn = NULL;
 
 		  for (iX = fullX1; iX < fullX2; iX +=
pStipple->drawable.width)
 		    {
 		      int width;
-
 		      if ((iX + pStipple->drawable.width) > fullX2)
 			width = fullX2 - iX;
 		      else
 			width = pStipple->drawable.width;
-
-		      BitBlt (pGCPriv->hdc,
+		      BitBlt (hdc,
 			      iX, fullY1,
 			      width, 1,
 			      hdcStipple,
@@ -566,8 +565,6 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 			      fullY1 % pStipple->drawable.height,
 			      g_copyROP[pGC->alu]);
 		    }
-
-		  pbox++;
 		}
 	    }
 
@@ -579,7 +576,7 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	  DeleteObject (hBitmap);
 
 	  /* Restore the background mode */
-	  SetBkMode (pGCPriv->hdc, OPAQUE);	  
+	  SetBkMode (hdc, OPAQUE);	  
 	  break;
 
 	case FillTiled:
@@ -611,26 +608,22 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	
 	      if (fullX1 >= fullX2)
 		continue;
-	
-	      nbox = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pClip);
-	      pbox = REGION_RECTS (pClip);
- 	      while (nbox--)
-	        {
-	     	  hrgn = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2,
pbox->y2);
-		  SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdc, hrgn);
-	    	  DeleteObject (hrgn);
+
+	      hrgn = makeNativeRgn (pClip);
+	      if (hrgn)
+		{
+		  SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdcMem, hrgn);
+		  DeleteObject (hrgn);
 		  hrgn = NULL;
 
-	    	  for (iX = fullX1; iX < fullX2; iX +=
pTile->drawable.width)
-	      	    {
+		  for (iX = fullX1; iX < fullX2; iX +=
pTile->drawable.width)
+		    {
 		      int width;
-
 		      if ((iX + pTile->drawable.width) > fullX2)
 			width = fullX2 - iX;
 		      else
 			width = pTile->drawable.width;
-
-		      BitBlt (pGCPriv->hdc,
+		      BitBlt (hdc,
 			      iX, fullY1,
 			      width, 1,
 			      pGCPriv->hdcMem,
@@ -638,8 +631,6 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 			      fullY1 % pTile->drawable.height,
 			      g_copyROP[pGC->alu]);
 		    }
-
-		  pbox++;
 		}
 	    }
 
@@ -653,7 +644,9 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	}
 
       /* Reset clip region */
-      SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdc, NULL);
+      /* TODO: restore saved region as opposed to a NULL region */
+      SelectClipRgn (hdc, NULL);
+      }
       break;
 
     case UNDRAWABLE_WINDOW:


From iburrell@znark.com  Tue Apr  9 19:50:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 19:50:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
References:  <3CB396A5.1070803@znark.com> <20020410015334.GO23551@redhat.com> <3CB39F07.7030203@znark.com> <20020410024203.GX23551@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3CB3A85C.90602@znark.com>

Christopher Faylor wrote:
> 
> Name?  Do you mean version?  If you put a version in setup.hint it
> is currently ignored.
> 

The name from the "@" line and the version header could be used to 
override the parsing of file names into name and version.

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr  9 20:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 20:00:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <3CB3A85C.90602@znark.com>
References:  <3CB396A5.1070803@znark.com> <20020410015334.GO23551@redhat.com> <3CB39F07.7030203@znark.com> <20020410024203.GX23551@redhat.com> <3CB3A85C.90602@znark.com>
Message-ID: <20020410030023.GB23551@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 07:50:04PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>Name?  Do you mean version?  If you put a version in setup.hint it is
>>currently ignored.
>
>The name from the "@" line and the version header could be used to
>override the parsing of file names into name and version.

No, the name doesn't override this, currently.

cgf


From iburrell@znark.com  Tue Apr  9 21:40:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 21:40:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
Message-ID: <3CB3C24E.9060803@znark.com>

I finished making some xfree packages. They are distributed binary 
archives repackaged as cygwin packages. I made a package directory that 
can be used with setup.exe from a local directory and over the network.

I changed my mind about the division of the packages I proposed. I got 
rid of the multiple doc and fonts packages cause I was having trouble 
with the naming and directories. Plus, I assumed the people would want 
to install them together. The packages are now:

xfree-base
xfree-devel
xfree-docs
xfree-fonts
xfree-xfs
xfree-xnest
xfree-xvfb
xfree-xprt

I don't have a machine that people can easily download the full files 
from. I can post the setup.* files and scripts I used to build the packages.

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr  9 22:34:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 22:34:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <3CB3C24E.9060803@znark.com>
References: <3CB3C24E.9060803@znark.com>
Message-ID: <20020410053447.GA15157@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:40:46PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
>I finished making some xfree packages. They are distributed binary 
>archives repackaged as cygwin packages. I made a package directory that 
>can be used with setup.exe from a local directory and over the network.
>
>I changed my mind about the division of the packages I proposed. I got 
>rid of the multiple doc and fonts packages cause I was having trouble 
>with the naming and directories. Plus, I assumed the people would want 
>to install them together. The packages are now:
>
>xfree-base
>xfree-devel
>xfree-docs
>xfree-fonts
>xfree-xfs
>xfree-xnest
>xfree-xvfb
>xfree-xprt
>
>I don't have a machine that people can easily download the full files 
>from. I can post the setup.* files and scripts I used to build the packages.

Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.

I think that these files should be called XFree86-base (or just
XFree86), etc.  The project is the Cygwin/XFree86 project and I
think the package names should reflect that.

cgf


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Tue Apr  9 22:35:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 22:35:00 -0000
Subject: makeNativeRgn
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Collins 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 12:42 PM
> To: Cygwin-Xfree
> Subject: makeNativeRgn
> 
> 
> Alan,
>   this may be of use to you: It's the region optimisation I 
> mentioned before. It seems a little faster to me, which 
> indicates that some
> (most?) of the calls have mulitple clip regions. 

There's more that can be done, like moving the clipboard selection
before the spans iteration, but the biggest improvement I've achieved so
far is making native Rgn's for the FILLTILED routine. I'll make a patch
for this once I clean a little other code in winfillsp.c up. The
background rendering is instantaneous with this for me.

Rob

in winclip.c (perhaps we need a winrgn.c? )
HRGN
makeNativeRgnFromSpans (int iSpans, DDXPointPtr pPoints, int *piWidths)
{
  HRGN rv;
  if (!iSpans)
    return NULL;
  rv = CreateRectRgn (pPoints->x, pPoints->y, pPoints->x + *piWidths,
pPoints->y
+1);
  ++pPoints;
  ++piWidths;
  while (iSpans--)
    {
      HRGN tempRgn;
      int combinerv;
      tempRgn = CreateRectRgn (pPoints->x, pPoints->y, pPoints->x +
*piWidths, p
Points->y+1);
      combinerv = CombineRgn (rv, rv, tempRgn, RGN_OR);
      if (combinerv == ERROR)
        {
          ErrorF ("makeNativeRgn: Failed to create native region %u\n",
GetLastE
rror());
          DeleteObject (rv);
          return NULL;
        }
      DeleteObject (tempRgn);
      ++pPoints;
      ++piWidths;
    }
  return rv;
}


and in winfillsp.c

        case FillTiled:
          hrgn = makeNativeRgn (pClip);
          if (hrgn)
            {
              HBRUSH aBrush,oldBrush;

              /* TODO: should we intersect the clip region? */
              SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdcMem, hrgn);
              DeleteObject (hrgn);
              hrgn = NULL;

          /* Get a pixmap pointer from the tile pointer, and fetch
privates  */
          pTile = (PixmapPtr) pGC->tile.pixmap;
          pTilePriv = winGetPixmapPriv (pTile);

          /* create a brush */

          aBrush = CreatePatternBrush(pTilePriv->hBitmap);
          oldBrush = SelectObject (hdc, aBrush);

          hrgn = makeNativeRgnFromSpans (iSpans, pPoints,piWidths);
          if (hrgn)
            {
              PaintRgn (hdc, hrgn);
              DeleteObject (hrgn);
            }

          /* Cleanup */
          SelectObject (hdc, oldBrush);
          DeleteObject (aBrush);

            }
          break;


From joshualokken@attbi.com  Tue Apr  9 23:32:00 2002
From: joshualokken@attbi.com (Joshua Lokken)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 23:32:00 -0000
Subject: cygpng2.dll missing
Message-ID: <000501c1e122$ad2e60c0$dbf9e10c@churgeon>

Hello, all:

Cygwin is great so far!!

Question:  After installing KDE and all of the required stuff, when I
run kdeinit, I get an error message:
    The application was not started...cygpng2.dll was not
    found.  Reinstalling the application could solve this
    problem.

Which package installs this dll?  I first noticed the error after
installing kdelibs, and before installing kdebase.

Also, where does the kde startup script need to reside?


TIA,

@@@@@@@@@@@!!

Joshua Lokken
joshualokken@attbi.com


%%%%%%%%%%%%%!!



From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Tue Apr  9 23:53:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 23:53:00 -0000
Subject: clipping questions
Message-ID: 

In the span functions,
if pGc->CompositeClip has
(nbox = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pRegion)) == 0, what does that indicate?

Should we skip rendering the span? Grab 1 rect and hope we can read it?

Something else?

Rob


From janneke@gnu.org  Wed Apr 10 00:35:00 2002
From: janneke@gnu.org (Jan Nieuwenhuizen)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:35:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <20020410053447.GA15157@redhat.com> (Christopher Faylor's
 message of "Wed, 10 Apr 2002 01:34:47 -0400")
References: <3CB3C24E.9060803@znark.com> <20020410053447.GA15157@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Christopher Faylor  writes:

> I think that these files should be called XFree86-base (or just
> XFree86), etc.  The project is the Cygwin/XFree86 project and I
> think the package names should reflect that.

Oh no, please reconsider allowing capitals in package names?  You'll
set a precedent for teTeX, GUILE, MySQL etc.  I'd vote for xfree86.

Jan.

-- 
Jan Nieuwenhuizen  | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter
http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien       | http://www.lilypond.org


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Wed Apr 10 00:37:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:37:00 -0000
Subject: makeNativeRgn
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020410073753.GH11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 12:42:23PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> Alan,
>   this may be of use to you: It's the region optimisation I mentioned
> before. It seems a little faster to me, which indicates that some
> (most?) of the calls have mulitple clip regions. 
> 
Robert,

Thanks for the patch. I'll apply it.

Like I said though, I haven't even started at looking at optimizations
until the span functions are working correctly. So your gonna find
lots and lots of places that can be optimized.

Alan.


From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Wed Apr 10 00:38:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:38:00 -0000
Subject: cygpng2.dll missing
In-Reply-To: <000501c1e122$ad2e60c0$dbf9e10c@churgeon>
Message-ID: <001d01c1e062$ac2e0b00$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf
> Of Joshua Lokken
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 8:33 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: cygpng2.dll missing
>
>
> Hello, all:
>
> Cygwin is great so far!!
>
> Question:  After installing KDE and all of the
> required stuff, when I
> run kdeinit, I get an error message:
>     The application was not started...cygpng2.dll was not
>     found.  Reinstalling the application could solve this
>     problem.
>
> Which package installs this dll?  I first noticed
> the error after
> installing kdelibs, and before installing kdebase.

Install the libpng package from the cygwin setup

> Also, where does the kde startup script need to reside?
>
The startup script "startkde" resides in /opt/kde2/bin. See
http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/faq.php#B12
for detailed instructions to start kde with startx

Regards
Ralf









From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Wed Apr 10 00:38:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:38:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
Message-ID: 

Setup is case insensitive to package names. I don't see any technical
issue either way.

Rob


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Wed Apr 10 00:44:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:44:00 -0000
Subject: makeNativeRgn
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020410074419.GI11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 03:35:06PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> There's more that can be done, like moving the clipboard selection
> before the spans iteration, but the biggest improvement I've achieved so
> far is making native Rgn's for the FILLTILED routine. I'll make a patch
> for this once I clean a little other code in winfillsp.c up. The
> background rendering is instantaneous with this for me.
> 
O.k.

I'll hang off applying that other patch until you've done the above.

Can you send the patch as an attachment. At my end windows nicely
put in the good old =20 and =3D expansions into the last email.

Alan.


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Wed Apr 10 00:45:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:45:00 -0000
Subject: clipping questions
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020410074549.GJ11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 04:53:07PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> In the span functions,
> if pGc->CompositeClip has
> (nbox = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pRegion)) == 0, what does that indicate?
> 
> Should we skip rendering the span? Grab 1 rect and hope we can read it?
> 
> Something else?
> 
That would suggest to me no rendering and skip the span.

Alan.


From janneke@gnu.org  Wed Apr 10 00:47:00 2002
From: janneke@gnu.org (Jan Nieuwenhuizen)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:47:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To:  ("Robert
 Collins"'s message of "Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:38:00 +1000")
References: 
Message-ID: 

"Robert Collins"  writes:

> Setup is case insensitive to package names. I don't see any technical
> issue either way.

Me neither, I only see a social issue: it's just plain irritating for
people?

   tar xjf releases/mysTABTAB  ^U
   tar xjf releases/MyTABTAB  ^U

etc, aargh?  It's ever more annoying when you're using wget, and try
to guess the name.

Well, it's only a minor pain, and maybe it's just me.
   
Jan.
-- 
Jan Nieuwenhuizen  | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter
http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien       | http://www.lilypond.org


From edi@serbski-institut.de  Wed Apr 10 00:49:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:49:00 -0000
Subject: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake
In-Reply-To: <00dd01c1dffa$eb8981c0$0a00a8c0@bytenet>
References: 
	<00dd01c1dffa$eb8981c0$0a00a8c0@bytenet>
Message-ID: <20020410.094548.74727385.edi@serbski-institut.de>

From: "Jeremy Wilkins" 
Subject: Re: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 20:15:30 +0100

> Hi,
> 
> Just thinking, I'm fairly sure the network is working happily, I can use ssh
> with out problem, and run X apps on the linux box, displaying on the NT box.
> I can even use launch cygwin X, ssh into the linux bottom, set DISPLAY and
> run startkde, at which point KDE loads happily on the cygwin display, it's
> just the XDMCP stuff thats not running.

Have you tried with IP addresses instead of hostnames?

Edi


From edi@serbski-institut.de  Wed Apr 10 00:49:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:49:00 -0000
Subject: some help with xWin
In-Reply-To: <3E89CD1EE5814142A6278A6F7077C3F6036F36@mailman2.mosol.com>
References: <3E89CD1EE5814142A6278A6F7077C3F6036F36@mailman2.mosol.com>
Message-ID: <20020410.094704.41658217.edi@serbski-institut.de>

> I have succesfully installed cygwin/xfree and when attempting to use XWin
> with XDM for solaris even using the -fp tcp/box:7100, I get a creen that is
> grey with a X as the cursor.  Can anyone help on what I am doing wrong?  I
> have attached 2 snapshots 

Nothing wrong so far. Your X has started but you don't have a connection yet.
How are you starting XWin (which command line parameters)?

Edi


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Wed Apr 10 00:54:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:54:00 -0000
Subject: Just a note - nativegdi engine
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020410075450.GK11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 10:18:39AM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:57 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: Just a note - nativegdi engine
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:47:58AM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> > > 2) I'm working on, I suspect it's a coordinate translation thing. I 
> > > get lovely background stipple but not (AFAICT solid fills).
> > > 
> > Rob,
> > 
> > Take a look at wingc.c and set miTranslate to 0 (FALSE).
> 
> Already tried that :}. Does that intelligently translate - i.e. will
> code for pixmaps be unaffected, and only window drawables get
> translated/not translated?
> 
pDrawable->x, y should always be 0 on a pixmap. On a window they're
different, but I understand should be 0 too with that set.

Alan.


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Wed Apr 10 01:28:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 01:28:00 -0000
Subject: makeNativeRgn
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:44 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: makeNativeRgn
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 03:35:06PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> > There's more that can be done, like moving the clipboard selection 
> > before the spans iteration, but the biggest improvement 
> I've achieved 
> > so far is making native Rgn's for the FILLTILED routine. 
> I'll make a 
> > patch for this once I clean a little other code in 
> winfillsp.c up. The 
> > background rendering is instantaneous with this for me.
> > 
> O.k.
> 
> I'll hang off applying that other patch until you've done the above.
> 
> Can you send the patch as an attachment. At my end windows 
> nicely put in the good old =20 and =3D expansions into the last email.

Will do.

Rob


From jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk  Wed Apr 10 03:30:00 2002
From: jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk (Jeremy Wilkins)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 03:30:00 -0000
Subject: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake
References: <00cb01c1dff6$1c9525d0$0a00a8c0@bytenet> 
Message-ID: <001401c1e07b$4fcbcc80$0a00a8c0@bytenet>

Hi,

My Xaccess is set to allow any host to connect, looking through the settings
this would appear to be default under Linux Mandrake.

my xdm-config is set as it should be but, since I am using KDM I don't think
it gets used.

The KDM config file has Enabled=true in the [Xdmcp] section.

I've tried to connect using both IP's and hostnames, I was originally  using
IPs, thought this might be the problem so changed to use hostnames.

Help??

Jeb
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Baer" 
To: "Jeremy Wilkins" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake


> Jeremy..
>
> Are you trying to get the full desktop.. KDE or GNOME ??
> If you are.. you can try the fallowing command.. this is what I have been
> using the last year with no problems.. to a SuSE 7.3.. from other
linux's..
> cygwin..  cd boot- linux...(wich is great...)
>
> X -query host_name_of_destination {or IP }
> you can try the fallowing also....
>
> X -broadcast   <-this should bring up the first box on your sub..
>
> This is assuming you have already modified..
>
> your
>
> /etc/X11/xdm-config      their should be a "!" in front of
> DisplayManager.requestPort:   0
>       This should be the last entery in this file
>
> &
>
> /etc/X11/Xaccess
>
> you should remove the "#" from the fallowing line
>
> #*                             CHOOSER BROADCAST
> #bla bla bla....
> to be:
> *                             CHOOSER BROADCAST
> #bla bla bla....
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeremy Wilkins" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 2:40 PM
> Subject: XDM: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to get X to connect to linux mandrake running in a virtual
> > machine (sadly I don't have access to multiple computers). I'm using the
> > command line
> >     Xwin -once -query linux -from nt
> >
> > but X times out with the error XDM: too many retransmissions.
> >
> > It seems that the linux box is refusing the XDMCP connection.
> >
> > The archives and FAQ both state that I only need to change the [Xdmcp]
> > section in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc file to Enabled=true. Which I
have
> > done. But still no luck, I've also tried modifying the settings for xdm,
> > setting the port to connect to as 177, and moving the /usr/bin/kdm
> program.
> >
> > My Xaccess file should allow direct connections from any machines (that
> > seems to be the default setup).
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
> >
>



From dlee@managedobjects.com  Wed Apr 10 04:35:00 2002
From: dlee@managedobjects.com (Lee, David S.)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 04:35:00 -0000
Subject: some help with xWin
Message-ID: <3E89CD1EE5814142A6278A6F7077C3F6036F3A@mailman2.mosol.com>

Edi -

I am starting for Solaris using:

xwin -query solarix_box -fp tcp/solaris_box:7100

Thanks
David

-----Original Message-----
From: PD Dr. Edward Wornar [mailto:edi@serbski-institut.de]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 3:47 AM
To: dlee@managedobjects.com
Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: some help with xWin


> I have succesfully installed cygwin/xfree and when attempting to use XWin
> with XDM for solaris even using the -fp tcp/box:7100, I get a creen that
is
> grey with a X as the cursor.  Can anyone help on what I am doing wrong?  I
> have attached 2 snapshots 

Nothing wrong so far. Your X has started but you don't have a connection
yet.
How are you starting XWin (which command line parameters)?

Edi


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 10 04:51:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 04:51:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <20020410053447.GA15157@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Yes, we try to keep things regularized around here, so XFree86 is the way
that the package names need to be spelled.

Also, I request that you keep the XFree86-xserv package, as that will allow
us to realize the immediate benefit of being able to release the Test-**
server or updates to the stable server as small downloads that everyone can
keep up to date with.

Thanks for you great work,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:35 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com; cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: xfree packages
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:40:46PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
> >I finished making some xfree packages. They are distributed binary
> >archives repackaged as cygwin packages. I made a package directory that
> >can be used with setup.exe from a local directory and over the network.
> >
> >I changed my mind about the division of the packages I proposed. I got
> >rid of the multiple doc and fonts packages cause I was having trouble
> >with the naming and directories. Plus, I assumed the people would want
> >to install them together. The packages are now:
> >
> >xfree-base
> >xfree-devel
> >xfree-docs
> >xfree-fonts
> >xfree-xfs
> >xfree-xnest
> >xfree-xvfb
> >xfree-xprt
> >
> >I don't have a machine that people can easily download the full files
> >from. I can post the setup.* files and scripts I used to build
> the packages.
>
> Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
>
> I think that these files should be called XFree86-base (or just
> XFree86), etc.  The project is the Cygwin/XFree86 project and I
> think the package names should reflect that.
>
> cgf


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Wed Apr 10 05:36:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 05:36:00 -0000
Subject: makeNativeRgn
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020410123649.GN11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 06:28:11PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:44 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: makeNativeRgn
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 03:35:06PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> > > There's more that can be done, like moving the clipboard selection 
> > > before the spans iteration, but the biggest improvement 
> > I've achieved 
> > > so far is making native Rgn's for the FILLTILED routine. 
> > I'll make a 
> > > patch for this once I clean a little other code in 
> > winfillsp.c up. The 
> > > background rendering is instantaneous with this for me.
> > > 
> > O.k.
> > 
> > I'll hang off applying that other patch until you've done the above.
> > 
> > Can you send the patch as an attachment. At my end windows 
> > nicely put in the good old =20 and =3D expansions into the last email.
> 
> Will do.
> 
Actually Rob, don't worry about it. I've already implemented what
you've suggested.

Alan.


From earnie_boyd@yahoo.com  Wed Apr 10 05:59:00 2002
From: earnie_boyd@yahoo.com (Earnie Boyd)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 05:59:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
References: 
Message-ID: <3CB436DF.2939396D@yahoo.com>

Let's be real picky:

XFree86-xserv-major.minor-portrelease.tar.bz2 is what is required for
the binary release.
XFree86-xserv-major.minor-portrelease-src.tar.bz2 is what is required
for the source release.

I've used xserv only as an example scenario and I'm not picking on it
specifically.

Earnie.

Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> Yes, we try to keep things regularized around here, so XFree86 is the way
> that the package names need to be spelled.
> 
> Also, I request that you keep the XFree86-xserv package, as that will allow
> us to realize the immediate benefit of being able to release the Test-**
> server or updates to the stable server as small downloads that everyone can
> keep up to date with.
> 
> Thanks for you great work,
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:35 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com; cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: xfree packages
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:40:46PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
> > >I finished making some xfree packages. They are distributed binary
> > >archives repackaged as cygwin packages. I made a package directory that
> > >can be used with setup.exe from a local directory and over the network.
> > >
> > >I changed my mind about the division of the packages I proposed. I got
> > >rid of the multiple doc and fonts packages cause I was having trouble
> > >with the naming and directories. Plus, I assumed the people would want
> > >to install them together. The packages are now:
> > >
> > >xfree-base
> > >xfree-devel
> > >xfree-docs
> > >xfree-fonts
> > >xfree-xfs
> > >xfree-xnest
> > >xfree-xvfb
> > >xfree-xprt
> > >
> > >I don't have a machine that people can easily download the full files
> > >from. I can post the setup.* files and scripts I used to build
> > the packages.
> >
> > Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
> >
> > I think that these files should be called XFree86-base (or just
> > XFree86), etc.  The project is the Cygwin/XFree86 project and I
> > think the package names should reflect that.
> >
> > cgf

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From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Wed Apr 10 06:03:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 06:03:00 -0000
Subject: makeNativeRgn
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:37 PM

> > Will do.
> > 
> Actually Rob, don't worry about it. I've already implemented 
> what you've suggested.

Heh, the next version is nearly ready which is what the delay is. I'll
send in the patch anyway once I fix one last bug. You can use or not at
your discretion.

Rob


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Wed Apr 10 06:08:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 06:08:00 -0000
Subject: makeNativeRgn
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020410130752.GO11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 11:02:45PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:37 PM
> 
> > > Will do.
> > > 
> > Actually Rob, don't worry about it. I've already implemented 
> > what you've suggested.
> 
> Heh, the next version is nearly ready which is what the delay is. I'll
> send in the patch anyway once I fix one last bug. You can use or not at
> your discretion.
> 
No problem. Your help is appreciated.

I certainly don't get mega speedups that you've talked about. And I
wouldn't expect them from the span routines, so I don't know what your
seeing on your machine.

Alan.


From edi@serbski-institut.de  Wed Apr 10 06:23:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 06:23:00 -0000
Subject: some help with xWin
In-Reply-To: <3E89CD1EE5814142A6278A6F7077C3F6036F3A@mailman2.mosol.com>
References: <3E89CD1EE5814142A6278A6F7077C3F6036F3A@mailman2.mosol.com>
Message-ID: <20020410.152157.59677888.edi@serbski-institut.de>

From: "Lee, David S." 
Subject: RE: some help with xWin
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 07:34:55 -0400

> Edi -
> 
> I am starting for Solaris using:
> 
> xwin -query solarix_box -fp tcp/solaris_box:7100

You need at least

xwin -query solarix_box -from windows_box_or_ip
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Cheers

Edi


From Olivier.Crumeyrolle@univ-lehavre.fr  Wed Apr 10 07:40:00 2002
From: Olivier.Crumeyrolle@univ-lehavre.fr (Olivier Crumeyrolle)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 07:40:00 -0000
Subject: KiB MiB are not SI prefixes but IEC ones
Message-ID: <3CB44DD5.6D8EC54C@univ-lehavre.fr>

I can read on the page  http://cygwin.com/xfree/
"We are now using the SI prefixes  for binary files sizes, according to"



But according to this NIST  web page,
"It is important to recognize that the new prefixes for binary multiples
are not part of the
International System of Units (SI), the modern metric system. "


Yours,


O Crumeyrolle.



From elik@bhphotovideo.com  Wed Apr 10 09:43:00 2002
From: elik@bhphotovideo.com (Eli Kleinman)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 09:43:00 -0000
Subject: Please help in xFree86
Message-ID: <3CB43448.15594.4DDEC9FA@localhost>


I am using xwin to start a xdmc window (CDE) from my Solaris box
and it works perfect, but for some reason when I am trying to copy
with CTRL+INSERT or CTRL+C form cygwin to any windows
program, it doesn?t work. I don?t know if this is my problem or that
this is the way it works in cygwin-xfree86,
Please help
Thanks Eli



From dlee@managedobjects.com  Wed Apr 10 10:10:00 2002
From: dlee@managedobjects.com (Lee, David S.)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:10:00 -0000
Subject: Please help in xFree86
Message-ID: <3E89CD1EE5814142A6278A6F7077C3F6036F42@mailman2.mosol.com>

try usig xwinclip .. you can download this from the cygwin page.

-----Original Message-----
From: Eli Kleinman [mailto:elik@bhphotovideo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 12:47 PM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Please help in xFree86



I am using xwin to start a xdmc window (CDE) from my Solaris box 
and it works perfect, but for some reason when I am trying to copy 
with CTRL+INSERT or CTRL+C form cygwin to any windows 
program, it doesn't work. I don't know if this is my problem or that 
this is the way it works in cygwin-xfree86,
Please help
Thanks Eli


From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Wed Apr 10 10:12:00 2002
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:12:00 -0000
Subject: Window Manager Performance...
Message-ID: 

I've been using Cygwin/Xfree some some time now, and until recently, always 
ran the window manager as a local client (as is the case with the stock 
startxwin scripts).  I started out using twm, then moved on the fvwm2, and 
then most recently Lesstif's mwm.

However, a few days ago I ran the window manager off a remote machine with a 
command sequence something like this:

bash> XWin.exe &
(wait for server to finish starting up)
bash> xhost $remote_host
bash> rsh $remote_host xterm -display $local_host:0 &
bash> rsh $remote_host mwm   -display $local_host:0

[Note: $local_host is an IBM ThinkPad iSeries w/ 700MHz PIII + 256MB SDRAM 
running Win2k SP2; $remote_host is an IBM RS/6000 Model 170 running AIX4.3; 
network is 100BaseT Ethernet]

After doing this, I noticed a dramatic improvement in the "response" of X my 
session (e.g. typing seems to have less lag, movement of windows, scroll 
bars, etc. appears to be more "fluid").

I find it surprising that the additional communications overhead of running 
the window manager remotely is more than made up for by the fact that it's 
running in a "native" unix environment (vs. cygwin).

I'm curious if other people have had a similar experience.


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From david.w.dawson@lmco.com  Wed Apr 10 11:07:00 2002
From: david.w.dawson@lmco.com (Dawson, David W)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:07:00 -0000
Subject: Window Manager Performance...
Message-ID: <0C73AA5F720CD311AC2A0008C7DBA9B403BDF6F1@emss09m13.ems.lmco.com>

Well, I also used the lesstif mwm for a while and noticed (using the MS Task
Manager) that mwm was consuming an *extraordinary* amount of the CPU.  

When I first used lesstif, I compiled it all myself, and had no such
problems. That, however, was several versions of lesstif ago, and being the
lazy soul that I am, I now use the precompiled binaries.

I don't know if this is related to the manner in which the latest binaries
have been created, or if it is related to code changes in the version
upgrades.  I never pursued this, having moved on since to IceWM.

Good hunting....
	-D.
---------------------
David Dawson
david.w.dawson@lmco.com
703-367-3885


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Thomas Chadwick [SMTP:j_tetazoo@hotmail.com]
> Sent:	Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:12 PM
> To:	cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject:	Window Manager Performance...
> 
> I've been using Cygwin/Xfree some some time now, and until recently,
> always 
> ran the window manager as a local client (as is the case with the stock 
> startxwin scripts).  I started out using twm, then moved on the fvwm2, and
> 
> then most recently Lesstif's mwm.
> 
> However, a few days ago I ran the window manager off a remote machine with
> a 
> command sequence something like this:
> 
> bash> XWin.exe &
> (wait for server to finish starting up)
> bash> xhost $remote_host
> bash> rsh $remote_host xterm -display $local_host:0 &
> bash> rsh $remote_host mwm   -display $local_host:0
> 
> [Note: $local_host is an IBM ThinkPad iSeries w/ 700MHz PIII + 256MB SDRAM
> 
> running Win2k SP2; $remote_host is an IBM RS/6000 Model 170 running
> AIX4.3; 
> network is 100BaseT Ethernet]
> 
> After doing this, I noticed a dramatic improvement in the "response" of X
> my 
> session (e.g. typing seems to have less lag, movement of windows, scroll 
> bars, etc. appears to be more "fluid").
> 
> I find it surprising that the additional communications overhead of
> running 
> the window manager remotely is more than made up for by the fact that it's
> 
> running in a "native" unix environment (vs. cygwin).
> 
> I'm curious if other people have had a similar experience.
> 
> 
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 10 11:10:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:10:00 -0000
Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Joan,

Don't forget to cc the list.

Your solution is interesting.

I wonder what the underlying problem is.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joan Bertran [mailto:jbertran@cirsa.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 8:40 AM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Subject: RE: kde 3.0 no icons
>
>
>   I have the same problem and i have found a workaround,
> just reducing the M$-windows color depth from 32 bit to 15 bits
> per pixel (it's the only high-color options on my driver) solves this
> and all icons are displayed fine.
>
> 		Joan Bertran.
>
>
> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00132.html
>     * From: "Harold Hunt" 
>     * To: "M Manohar" ,  cygwin dot com>
>     * Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 01:36:49 -0400
>     * Subject: RE: kde 3.0 no icons
>
> >
> > Manohar,
> >
> > I just logged into KDE3 via one of the computers in our campus
> labs today
> > (running 4.1.99 which is either some unknown test release or 4.1.0) and
> saw
> > the problem that you mentioned.  I noticed that two desktop
> icons show up
> >(one was the "Internet" icon for Konq) but no bottom-bar buttons
> showed up.
>
> > I'm not sure what causes the problem but at least now I have
> some sort of
> > test environment.
> > Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of M Manohar
> > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:42 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: RE: kde 3.0 no icons
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I recently installed KDE 3.0 on my linux box and have the same
> > problem, that is certain icons don't get displayed
> > on Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0 (version confirmed by running xdpyinfo).
> >
> > I poked around a little more and found that icons that are in PNG
> > format are the ones that
> > don't get displayed. I checked my Cygwin installation for
> > libpng.dll and it does exist
> > (I manually copied cygpng2.dll to libpng.dll). I'm not sure if
> > this library is required though.
> >
> > Hoping somebody can help me on this.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Manohar
> >
> > ----------------
> > Scott,
> >
> > That doesn't sound good.
> >
> > I haven't yet installed KDE 3.0 and I won't have time to for at
> > least a week,
> > so I won't have a chance to look into this for some time.
> >
> > I know you say that Cygwin/XFree86 is up-to-date, but are you running
> > Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0?  You can check by running 'xdpyinfo' in a local
> > Cygwin/XFree86 session or in a terminal when you are logged into another
> > machine via XDMCP.
> >
> > Awaiting a chance to investiage this,
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > Scott Alexander  said:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > My server has just been upgraded to kde 3.0 running redhat
> 7.2.  I use =
> > > cygwin with xfree86 to connect to this server using
> > >
> > > x -query 
> > >
> > > I have been doing this for a while with kde 2.2.2 with no problems.  =
> > > However when i connect to it now with kde 3 my screen has no
> icons or =
> > > icons on the kicker bar at the bottom. =20
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of this problem and a solution for it.
> > >
> > > My machine runs w2k with up 2 date cygwin and xfree86.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Scott Alexander
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 10 11:11:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:11:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <3CB436DF.2939396D@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

Earnie,

> Let's be real picky:
>
> XFree86-xserv-major.minor-portrelease.tar.bz2 is what is required for
> the binary release.
> XFree86-xserv-major.minor-portrelease-src.tar.bz2 is what is required
> for the source release.
>
> I've used xserv only as an example scenario and I'm not picking on it
> specifically.

That's pretty close, but XFree86 specifies three version number, so it would
actually have to be:

XFree86-xserv-major.minor.other-portrelease.tar.bz2

XFree86-xserv-major.minor.other-portrelease-src.tar.bz2

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Earnie Boyd [mailto:earnie_boyd@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 8:58 AM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: xfree packages
>
>
> Let's be real picky:
>
> XFree86-xserv-major.minor-portrelease.tar.bz2 is what is required for
> the binary release.
> XFree86-xserv-major.minor-portrelease-src.tar.bz2 is what is required
> for the source release.
>
> I've used xserv only as an example scenario and I'm not picking on it
> specifically.
>
> Earnie.
>
> Harold Hunt wrote:
> >
> > Yes, we try to keep things regularized around here, so XFree86
> is the way
> > that the package names need to be spelled.
> >
> > Also, I request that you keep the XFree86-xserv package, as
> that will allow
> > us to realize the immediate benefit of being able to release the Test-**
> > server or updates to the stable server as small downloads that
> everyone can
> > keep up to date with.
> >
> > Thanks for you great work,
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:35 AM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com; cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Re: xfree packages
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:40:46PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
> > > >I finished making some xfree packages. They are distributed binary
> > > >archives repackaged as cygwin packages. I made a package
> directory that
> > > >can be used with setup.exe from a local directory and over
> the network.
> > > >
> > > >I changed my mind about the division of the packages I
> proposed. I got
> > > >rid of the multiple doc and fonts packages cause I was having trouble
> > > >with the naming and directories. Plus, I assumed the people
> would want
> > > >to install them together. The packages are now:
> > > >
> > > >xfree-base
> > > >xfree-devel
> > > >xfree-docs
> > > >xfree-fonts
> > > >xfree-xfs
> > > >xfree-xnest
> > > >xfree-xvfb
> > > >xfree-xprt
> > > >
> > > >I don't have a machine that people can easily download the full files
> > > >from. I can post the setup.* files and scripts I used to build
> > > the packages.
> > >
> > > Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
> > >
> > > I think that these files should be called XFree86-base (or just
> > > XFree86), etc.  The project is the Cygwin/XFree86 project and I
> > > think the package names should reflect that.
> > >
> > > cgf
>
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 10 11:15:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:15:00 -0000
Subject: some help with xWin
In-Reply-To: <20020410.152157.59677888.edi@serbski-institut.de>
Message-ID: 

Edi,

Actually, you don't need the -from parameter anymore.  It usually doesn't
even help when you have multiple network card, if I recall correctly.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of PD Dr. Edward Wornar
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:22 AM
> To: dlee@managedobjects.com
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: some help with xWin
>
>
> From: "Lee, David S." 
> Subject: RE: some help with xWin
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 07:34:55 -0400
>
> > Edi -
> >
> > I am starting for Solaris using:
> >
> > xwin -query solarix_box -fp tcp/solaris_box:7100
>
> You need at least
>
> xwin -query solarix_box -from windows_box_or_ip
>                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Cheers
>
> Edi


From elik@bhphotovideo.com  Wed Apr 10 12:02:00 2002
From: elik@bhphotovideo.com (Eli Kleinman)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:02:00 -0000
Subject: help with xwinclip
Message-ID: <3CB454C1.2675.4E5DA1C9@localhost>


I download the xwinclip-Test03.exe.bz2 from cygwin-xFree86 web 
site, and installed it by bunzip2 and coping it to /usr/X11R6/bin 
Now I am trying to start it by running xwinclip.exe, first it gave me 
can not open DISPLAY so I set my DISPLAY to my local hosts 
(this is where I am currently running my xFree86 - CDE), but this is 
the error what I got.

$ export DISPLAY=192.9.200.136:0.0
$ xwinclip.exe -display 192.9.200.136:0.0
Xlib: connection to "192.9.200.136:0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

any help is appreciate
Eli


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Wed Apr 10 12:04:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:04:00 -0000
Subject: Window Manager Performance...
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Thomas Chadwick wrote:

> I find it surprising that the additional communications overhead of running 
> the window manager remotely is more than made up for by the fact that it's 
> running in a "native" unix environment (vs. cygwin).

There is no additional communication overhead. You have to send the data
packets from the Xserver to the windowmanager anyway. You might notice
a lag with very slow network connections (<10MBit, maybe <64kBit), but 
ethernet is fast enough to transport simple X communication.
X11 was developed when 10MBit was a high-end connection. 

On the other hand, you now have parallel processing. Machine A encodes
the protocol and machine B decodes it. Its faster than machine A en- and 
decodes.

bye
	ago 
-- 
 Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017


From dlee@managedobjects.com  Wed Apr 10 12:07:00 2002
From: dlee@managedobjects.com (Lee, David S.)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:07:00 -0000
Subject: help with xwinclip
Message-ID: <3E89CD1EE5814142A6278A6F7077C3F6036F4D@mailman2.mosol.com>

Eli -

You have to add it to your ./xinitrc file 

xwinclip.exe /B

or something like that

-----Original Message-----
From: Eli Kleinman [mailto:elik@bhphotovideo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 3:06 PM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: help with xwinclip



I download the xwinclip-Test03.exe.bz2 from cygwin-xFree86 web 
site, and installed it by bunzip2 and coping it to /usr/X11R6/bin 
Now I am trying to start it by running xwinclip.exe, first it gave me 
can not open DISPLAY so I set my DISPLAY to my local hosts 
(this is where I am currently running my xFree86 - CDE), but this is 
the error what I got.

$ export DISPLAY=192.9.200.136:0.0
$ xwinclip.exe -display 192.9.200.136:0.0
Xlib: connection to "192.9.200.136:0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

any help is appreciate
Eli


From nik@bates-haus.org  Wed Apr 10 12:17:00 2002
From: nik@bates-haus.org (Nikolaus Bates-Haus)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:17:00 -0000
Subject: help with xwinclip
In-Reply-To: <3CB454C1.2675.4E5DA1C9@localhost>
References: <3CB454C1.2675.4E5DA1C9@localhost>
Message-ID: <20020410191612.GA1212@rover.bates-haus.org>

If you set DISPLAY to an IP address, xwinclip tries to connect as a remote
client, and XFree is finicky about security.
Set DISPLAY to ":0.0" instead; this will connect as a local client instead,
so you won't get refused.

-nik

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 03:05:37PM -0400, Eli Kleinman wrote:
> 
> I download the xwinclip-Test03.exe.bz2 from cygwin-xFree86 web 
> site, and installed it by bunzip2 and coping it to /usr/X11R6/bin 
> Now I am trying to start it by running xwinclip.exe, first it gave me 
> can not open DISPLAY so I set my DISPLAY to my local hosts 
> (this is where I am currently running my xFree86 - CDE), but this is 
> the error what I got.
> 
> $ export DISPLAY=192.9.200.136:0.0
> $ xwinclip.exe -display 192.9.200.136:0.0
> Xlib: connection to "192.9.200.136:0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: No protocol specified
> 
> any help is appreciate
> Eli


From edi@serbski-institut.de  Wed Apr 10 13:14:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:14:00 -0000
Subject: some help with xWin
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020410.152157.59677888.edi@serbski-institut.de>
	
Message-ID: <20020410.221354.74741647.edi@serbski-institut.de>

From: "Harold Hunt" 
Subject: RE: some help with xWin
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:15:09 -0400

> Edi,
> 
> Actually, you don't need the -from parameter anymore.  It usually doesn't
> even help when you have multiple network card, if I recall correctly.
> 

Thanks. But we're still running XFree 4.1 and therefore definitely
need it (and I'm not in a mood to upgrade 30 Windows boxes).

Edi


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 10 13:14:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:14:00 -0000
Subject: KiB MiB are not SI prefixes but IEC ones
In-Reply-To: <3CB44DD5.6D8EC54C@univ-lehavre.fr>
Message-ID: 

Olivier,

I never thought someone would catch me on that one... but you are correct.
KiB and MiB are not SI prefixes, they are IEC prefices.  I changed the news
item accordingly.

Thanks,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Olivier Crumeyrolle
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:36 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: KiB MiB are not SI prefixes but IEC ones
>
>
> I can read on the page  http://cygwin.com/xfree/
> "We are now using the SI prefixes  for binary files sizes, according to"
>
> 
>
> But according to this NIST  web page,
> "It is important to recognize that the new prefixes for binary multiples
> are not part of the
> International System of Units (SI), the modern metric system. "
>
>
> Yours,
>
>
> O Crumeyrolle.
>
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 10 13:18:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:18:00 -0000
Subject: some help with xWin
In-Reply-To: <20020410.221354.74741647.edi@serbski-institut.de>
Message-ID: 

Edi,

That sounds reasonable.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of PD Dr. Edward Wornar
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 4:14 PM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Cc: dlee@managedobjects.com; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: some help with xWin
> 
> 
> From: "Harold Hunt" 
> Subject: RE: some help with xWin
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:15:09 -0400
> 
> > Edi,
> > 
> > Actually, you don't need the -from parameter anymore.  It 
> usually doesn't
> > even help when you have multiple network card, if I recall correctly.
> > 
> 
> Thanks. But we're still running XFree 4.1 and therefore definitely
> need it (and I'm not in a mood to upgrade 30 Windows boxes).
> 
> Edi
> 


From iburrell@znark.com  Wed Apr 10 13:22:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:22:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
References: <3CB3C24E.9060803@znark.com> <20020410053447.GA15157@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3CB49F1C.7000604@znark.com>

Christopher Faylor wrote:
> 
> Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
> 

Check out http://www.znark.com/cygwin/. It doesn't include the archive 
files; my web account doesn't have the bandwidth or quota for them. To 
generate the packages, download the *.tgz files from 
cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0


> I think that these files should be called XFree86-base (or just
> XFree86), etc.  The project is the Cygwin/XFree86 project and I
> think the package names should reflect that.
> 

I renamed all the packages to use xfree86 instead of xfree.

I couldn't get upset to work properly. I figured out that it needs a 
list of packages as input. If there is no version: line in setup.hint 
files, then the generated version is incorrect (xfree-base-4.2.0-1) for 
example. If I put it in the setup.hint files, no install: line is 
generated. I had to hand edit the generated setup.ini.

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From AndrewW@ViAir.com  Wed Apr 10 13:35:00 2002
From: AndrewW@ViAir.com (Andrew Wilson)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:35:00 -0000
Subject: Xmod.tgz?
Message-ID: 


 Hi all,
 
 My apologies for the wide broadcast of this question, but 
 this is the email address listed on the cygwin/xfree homepage.
 
 I just downloaded V4.2.0 of Xfree86 from the primary mirror, 
 but Xmod.tgz seems to be missing from the mirror, while 
 Xinstall.sh still expects the file to exist. I've checked a 
 few other mirrors at random (nas.nasa.gov/mirrors and 
 uiarchive.uiuc.edu) but it isn't on any of those mirrors 
 either. I've also noticed that Xmod.tgz is no longer 
 referenced by the user guide 
 (cygwin.com/xfree/docs/ug/setup-cygwin-xfree-downloading.html) either.

 Is Xinstall.sh out of date, or is Xmod.tgz missing?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 -atw
 


From iburrell@znark.com  Wed Apr 10 13:49:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:49:00 -0000
Subject: Xmod.tgz?
References: 
Message-ID: <3CB4A567.8090907@znark.com>

Andrew Wilson wrote:
>  
>  My apologies for the wide broadcast of this question, but 
>  this is the email address listed on the cygwin/xfree homepage.
>  
>  I just downloaded V4.2.0 of Xfree86 from the primary mirror, 
>  but Xmod.tgz seems to be missing from the mirror, while 
>  Xinstall.sh still expects the file to exist. I've checked a 
>  few other mirrors at random (nas.nasa.gov/mirrors and 
>  uiarchive.uiuc.edu) but it isn't on any of those mirrors 
>  either. I've also noticed that Xmod.tgz is no longer 
>  referenced by the user guide 
>  (cygwin.com/xfree/docs/ug/setup-cygwin-xfree-downloading.html) either.
> 
>  Is Xinstall.sh out of date, or is Xmod.tgz missing?
>  

Xmod.tgz shouldn't be used on Cygwin since it doesn't use modules. The 
Xinstall.sh script I have checks for Cygwin and removes Xmod.tgz from 
the files that need to be installed.

  - Ian

-- 
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http://www.znark.com/


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Wed Apr 10 14:27:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:27:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
References: <3CB3C24E.9060803@znark.com> <20020410053447.GA15157@redhat.com> <3CB49F1C.7000604@znark.com>
Message-ID: <3CB4AE32.6000108@ece.gatech.edu>

Ian, Chris wants the setup hint files IN the mailing list archive 
permanently.  Not sitting on an external, subject-to-change website.

I've pasted them here.

--Chuck


--- xfree86-base ---
sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 base"
category: XFree86
requires: cygwin ash xfree86-fonts
ldesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 is a port of the X Window System to Cygwin. The
X server runs under Windows and displays X clients running on the
local or other machines. It can run in full screen and single window
modes.

This package contains the programs, libraries, and config files to run
the X server and other X clients. The xfree86-fonts package is also
required. The other packages contain headers, programs, and
documentation for development."


--- xfree86-devel ---
sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 development files"
category: XFree86
requires: xfree86-base
ldesc: "This package contains the libraries, headers, and man pages
for compiling X Windows programs."


--- xfree86-doc ---
sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 text documentation"
category: XFree86
ldesc: "XFree86 development documentation in text, HTML, and PostScript 
formats."

--- xfree86-fonts ---
sdesc: "Cygwin-XFree86 fonts"
category: XFree86
requires: xfree86-base
ldesc: "This package contains fonts for XFree86. It contains the
100dpi, 75dpi, misc, scaled, and cyrillic sets. This package is
required."


--- xfree86-xfs ---
sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 font server"
category: XFree86
requires: cygwin xfree86-base
version: 4.2.0-1
ldesc: "This package contains the font server for XFree86."


--- xfree86-xnest ---
sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 nested server"
category: XFree86
requires: cygwin xfree86-base
version: 4.2.0-1
ldesc: "Xnest is an X server that runs as a client for another X
server. It is used for testing X clients and servers."


--- xfree86-xprt ---
sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 printing server"
category: XFree86
requires: cygwin xfree86-base
version: 4.2.0-1
ldesc: "Xprt is an X server that prints the display to a PostScript file."


--- xfree86-xvfb ---
sdesc: "Cygwin-XFree86 virtual framebuffer server"
category: XFree86
requires: cygwin xfree86-base
version: 4.2.0-1
ldesc: "Xvfb is an X server that runs without any display using a
virtual framebuffer. This server runs without any display. It is used
for testing X clients and servers."







From iburrell@znark.com  Wed Apr 10 14:37:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:37:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
References: 
Message-ID: <3CB4B09C.1070606@znark.com>

Harold Hunt wrote:
> Yes, we try to keep things regularized around here, so XFree86 is the way
> that the package names need to be spelled.
> 
> Also, I request that you keep the XFree86-xserv package, as that will allow
> us to realize the immediate benefit of being able to release the Test-**
> server or updates to the stable server as small downloads that everyone can
> keep up to date with.
> 

Good idea. I'm going to call it xfree86-xwin though. I think I'll put 
the startup-scripts.tgz in this package.

  - Ian

-- 
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http://www.znark.com/


From elik@bhphotovideo.com  Wed Apr 10 14:43:00 2002
From: elik@bhphotovideo.com (Eli Kleinman)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:43:00 -0000
Subject: still having a problem with xwinclip 
Message-ID: <3CB47A88.1525.4EF134B8@localhost>

I tried setting DISPLAY to :0.0 but this did not solve my problem
this is what I use to start CDE
$ export DISPLAY=192.9.200.136:0.0
xwin -noreset -screen 0 1152 864 -query 192.9.200.6 -fp 
tcp/192.9.200.6:7100 -from 192.9.200.136 &
[1] 600

this is what I try to use to start xwinclip and this is what i get 
$ export DISPLAY=:0.0
$ xwinclip.exe
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

Could not open display

Could some one please help me


From iburrell@stanfordalumni.org  Wed Apr 10 14:47:00 2002
From: iburrell@stanfordalumni.org (Ian Burrell)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:47:00 -0000
Subject: still having a problem with xwinclip
References: <3CB47A88.1525.4EF134B8@localhost>
Message-ID: <3CB4B2CF.2090507@stanfordalumni.org>

Eli Kleinman wrote:
> I tried setting DISPLAY to :0.0 but this did not solve my problem
> this is what I use to start CDE
> $ export DISPLAY=192.9.200.136:0.0
> xwin -noreset -screen 0 1152 864 -query 192.9.200.6 -fp 
> tcp/192.9.200.6:7100 -from 192.9.200.136 &
> [1] 600
> 
> this is what I try to use to start xwinclip and this is what i get 
> $ export DISPLAY=:0.0
> $ xwinclip.exe
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: No protocol specified
> 
> Could not open display
> 
> Could some one please help me
> 

When you use -query, the X server doesn't allow connection from the 
local machine. I think it uses xauth cookies. You need to enable 
connections with xhost from an xterm running in the X server. Something 
like this should work:

xhost local:
xhost 

  - Ian





-- 
iburrell@stanfordalumni.org
http://www.znark.com/


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 10 14:49:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:49:00 -0000
Subject: still having a problem with xwinclip 
In-Reply-To: <3CB47A88.1525.4EF134B8@localhost>
Message-ID: 

Eli,

xwinclip is going to have problems in your scenario because CDE owns the
display when you use XDMCP.  I think someone may have figured out how to use
xwinclip at the same time as an XDMCP session... you can search the mailing
list archives for an answer to that.

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Eli Kleinman
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:47 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: still having a problem with xwinclip
>
>
> I tried setting DISPLAY to :0.0 but this did not solve my problem
> this is what I use to start CDE
> $ export DISPLAY=192.9.200.136:0.0
> xwin -noreset -screen 0 1152 864 -query 192.9.200.6 -fp
> tcp/192.9.200.6:7100 -from 192.9.200.136 &
> [1] 600
>
> this is what I try to use to start xwinclip and this is what i get
> $ export DISPLAY=:0.0
> $ xwinclip.exe
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: No protocol specified
>
> Could not open display
>
> Could some one please help me


From iburrell@znark.com  Wed Apr 10 15:11:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 15:11:00 -0000
Subject: Close window with multiple screens exits server
Message-ID: <3CB4B877.8040507@znark.com>

I noticed unexpected behaviour when running with multiple screens in 
windowed mode. Closing one of the windows exits the server. A more 
expected behaviour would be to close that screen but leave the server 
running until all screens have been closed. Is there a way to close a 
screen while the server is running?

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 10 15:13:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 15:13:00 -0000
Subject: Close window with multiple screens exits server
In-Reply-To: <3CB4B877.8040507@znark.com>
Message-ID: 

Ian,

That is the expected behavior.  It is, of course, possible to exit only when
all windows have been closed, but that hasn't been a request feature yet...
and no one has volunteered to write it.  I might give it a shot soon...

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ian Burrell
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 6:11 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Close window with multiple screens exits server
>
>
> I noticed unexpected behaviour when running with multiple screens in
> windowed mode. Closing one of the windows exits the server. A more
> expected behaviour would be to close that screen but leave the server
> running until all screens have been closed. Is there a way to close a
> screen while the server is running?
>
>   - Ian
>
> --
> iburrell@znark.com
> http://www.znark.com/
>


From iburrell@znark.com  Wed Apr 10 15:40:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 15:40:00 -0000
Subject: Installation of xkb files 
Message-ID: <3CB4BF49.6040605@znark.com>

There is some difference in how the xkb files are organized and I want 
it cleared up for the packages.

In the distributed archives and after running Xinstall.sh, the files are 
in /etc/X11/xkb, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb is a symlink to that, and 
/etc/X11/xkb/compiled is a broken symlink. The symlink looks like it was 
meant to be in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb.

With "make install", /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb contains the files, 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compile is a symlink to /etc/X11/xkb.

On Linux, the files are in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb, /etc/X11/xkb is a 
symlink to that, and /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb is a symlink to /var/lib/xkb.

Anyone understand what is going on. Has anyone used XKB and have a 
preference?

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From mmanohar@attbi.com  Wed Apr 10 17:16:00 2002
From: mmanohar@attbi.com (M Manohar)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:16:00 -0000
Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
Message-ID: <200204101705.42781.mmanohar@attbi.com>


Just tried this out, the solution works for me too.... thanks

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joan,

Don't forget to cc the list.

Your solution is interesting.

I wonder what the underlying problem is.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joan Bertran [mailto:jbertran@cirsa.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 8:40 AM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Subject: RE: kde 3.0 no icons
>
>
>   I have the same problem and i have found a workaround,
> just reducing the M$-windows color depth from 32 bit to 15 bits
> per pixel (it's the only high-color options on my driver) solves this
> and all icons are displayed fine.
>
>               Joan Bertran.
>
>
> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00132.html
>     * From: "Harold Hunt" 
>     * To: "M Manohar" ,  cygwin dot com>
>     * Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 01:36:49 -0400
>     * Subject: RE: kde 3.0 no icons
>
> >
> > Manohar,
> >
> > I just logged into KDE3 via one of the computers in our campus
> labs today
> > (running 4.1.99 which is either some unknown test release or 4.1.0) and
> saw
> > the problem that you mentioned.  I noticed that two desktop
> icons show up
> >(one was the "Internet" icon for Konq) but no bottom-bar buttons
> showed up.
>
> > I'm not sure what causes the problem but at least now I have
> some sort of
> > test environment.
> > Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of M Manohar
> > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:42 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: RE: kde 3.0 no icons
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I recently installed KDE 3.0 on my linux box and have the same
> > problem, that is certain icons don't get displayed
> > on Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0 (version confirmed by running xdpyinfo).
> >
> > I poked around a little more and found that icons that are in PNG
> > format are the ones that
> > don't get displayed. I checked my Cygwin installation for
> > libpng.dll and it does exist
> > (I manually copied cygpng2.dll to libpng.dll). I'm not sure if
> > this library is required though.
> >
> > Hoping somebody can help me on this.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Manohar
> >
> > ----------------
> > Scott,
> >
> > That doesn't sound good.
> >
> > I haven't yet installed KDE 3.0 and I won't have time to for at
> > least a week,
> > so I won't have a chance to look into this for some time.
> >
> > I know you say that Cygwin/XFree86 is up-to-date, but are you running
> > Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0?  You can check by running 'xdpyinfo' in a local
> > Cygwin/XFree86 session or in a terminal when you are logged into another
> > machine via XDMCP.
> >
> > Awaiting a chance to investiage this,
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > Scott Alexander  said:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > My server has just been upgraded to kde 3.0 running redhat
> 7.2.  I use =
> > > cygwin with xfree86 to connect to this server using
> > >
> > > x -query 
> > >
> > > I have been doing this for a while with kde 2.2.2 with no problems.  =
> > > However when i connect to it now with kde 3 my screen has no
> icons or =
> > > icons on the kicker bar at the bottom. =20
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of this problem and a solution for it.
> > >
> > > My machine runs w2k with up 2 date cygwin and xfree86.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Scott Alexander
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>



From cgf@redhat.com  Wed Apr 10 17:29:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:29:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
Message-ID: <20020411002953.GA14903@redhat.com>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 09:47:31AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
>"Robert Collins"  writes:
>
>> Setup is case insensitive to package names. I don't see any technical
>> issue either way.
>
>Me neither, I only see a social issue: it's just plain irritating for
>people?
>
>   tar xjf releases/mysTABTAB  ^U
>   tar xjf releases/MyTABTAB  ^U
>
>etc, aargh?  It's ever more annoying when you're using wget, and try
>to guess the name.

I thought I'd replied to this but I guess I hadn't.

I really don't think we should use tab completion as a justification for
picking package names.  The package names should reflect what the
authors want to call the package.  If the name of the package is XFree86,
it should be called XFree86.  Ditto, TeX, or any other package.

AFAICT, both Red Hat and Debian allow upper/lower case, so there's no
reason for us to restrict things.

cgf


From lhall@rfk.com  Wed Apr 10 18:11:00 2002
From: lhall@rfk.com (Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc))
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 18:11:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <20020411002953.GA14903@redhat.com>
References: 
 
 
Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20020410210406.02315e10@pop.ma.ultranet.com>

At 08:29 PM 4/10/2002, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 09:47:31AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
> >"Robert Collins"  writes:
> >
> >> Setup is case insensitive to package names. I don't see any technical
> >> issue either way.
> >
> >Me neither, I only see a social issue: it's just plain irritating for
> >people?
> >
> >   tar xjf releases/mysTABTAB  ^U
> >   tar xjf releases/MyTABTAB  ^U
> >
> >etc, aargh?  It's ever more annoying when you're using wget, and try
> >to guess the name.
>
>I thought I'd replied to this but I guess I hadn't.
>
>I really don't think we should use tab completion as a justification for
>picking package names.  The package names should reflect what the
>authors want to call the package.  If the name of the package is XFree86,
>it should be called XFree86.  Ditto, TeX, or any other package.
>
>AFAICT, both Red Hat and Debian allow upper/lower case, so there's no
>reason for us to restrict things.


I went so far as to type a response and then trash it, since I thought it
was getting off-topic for this list.  But thinking again, it supports 
Chris's position, even though it has been mentioned many a time
on the Cygwin list.  I'm thinking of the 'completion-ignore-case' option
in bash.  Seems to me that this addresses the concern.  

I'm certainly all for mixed-case names.





Larry Hall                              lhall@rfk.com
RFK Partners, Inc.                      http://www.rfk.com
838 Washington Street                   (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office
Holliston, MA 01746                     (508) 893-9889 - FAX


From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz  Wed Apr 10 22:28:00 2002
From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 22:28:00 -0000
Subject: still having a problem with xwinclip
Message-ID: 


Hi

I used this in my start.bat:

@echo off
SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
SET PATH=d:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin;d:\cygwin\bin;d:\cygwin\usr\bin;%PATH%
start XWin -screen 0 1280 1024 -depth 32 -engine 4 -kb -query myAIXmachine
-fp tcp/myfontserver:7500 -fullscreen -once -ac
start /B xwinclip.exe

 and it worked, but there is another problem - when I use xwinclip such
way, it's impossible to logoff correctly and I have to shutdown XWin using
Alt-F4 key.
So I avoided using xwinclip.

Pavel



                                                                                                                          
                    "Harold Hunt"                                                                                         
                             To:     "Eli Kleinman" ,   
                    Sent by:                   cc:                                                                        
                    cygwin-xfree-owner@        Subject:     RE: still having a problem with xwinclip                      
                    cygwin.com                                                                                            
                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                          
                    10.04.2002 23:48                                                                                      
                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                          




Eli,

xwinclip is going to have problems in your scenario because CDE owns the
display when you use XDMCP.  I think someone may have figured out how to
use
xwinclip at the same time as an XDMCP session... you can search the mailing
list archives for an answer to that.

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Eli Kleinman
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:47 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: still having a problem with xwinclip
>
>
> I tried setting DISPLAY to :0.0 but this did not solve my problem
> this is what I use to start CDE
> $ export DISPLAY=192.9.200.136:0.0
> xwin -noreset -screen 0 1152 864 -query 192.9.200.6 -fp
> tcp/192.9.200.6:7100 -from 192.9.200.136 &
> [1] 600
>
> this is what I try to use to start xwinclip and this is what i get
> $ export DISPLAY=:0.0
> $ xwinclip.exe
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: No protocol specified
>
> Could not open display
>
> Could some one please help me





From darko.palic@gmx.de  Thu Apr 11 04:06:00 2002
From: darko.palic@gmx.de (Palic, Darko)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 04:06:00 -0000
Subject: still having a problem with xwinclip
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Hi,

could you please try to use:
start /B XWin -ac -screen ........
sleep 15 (or set a 'pause' and wait for about 15 Secs, now press any key)
start /B xwinclip.exe

best regards,
Darko Palic

>
> Hi
>
> I used this in my start.bat:
>
> @echo off
> SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
> SET PATH=d:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin;d:\cygwin\bin;d:\cygwin\usr\bin;%PATH%
> start XWin -screen 0 1280 1024 -depth 32 -engine 4 -kb -query myAIXmachine
> -fp tcp/myfontserver:7500 -fullscreen -once -ac
> start /B xwinclip.exe
>
>  and it worked, but there is another problem - when I use xwinclip such
> way, it's impossible to logoff correctly and I have to shutdown XWin using
> Alt-F4 key.
> So I avoided using xwinclip.
>
> Pavel
>
>
>
>
>
>                     "Harold Hunt"
>
>                              To:     "Eli
> Kleinman" , 
>                     Sent by:                   cc:
>
>                     cygwin-xfree-owner@        Subject:     RE:
> still having a problem with xwinclip
>                     cygwin.com
>
>
>
>
>
>                     10.04.2002 23:48
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Eli,
>
> xwinclip is going to have problems in your scenario because CDE owns the
> display when you use XDMCP.  I think someone may have figured out how to
> use
> xwinclip at the same time as an XDMCP session... you can search
> the mailing
> list archives for an answer to that.
>
> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Eli Kleinman
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:47 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: still having a problem with xwinclip
> >
> >
> > I tried setting DISPLAY to :0.0 but this did not solve my problem
> > this is what I use to start CDE
> > $ export DISPLAY=192.9.200.136:0.0
> > xwin -noreset -screen 0 1152 864 -query 192.9.200.6 -fp
> > tcp/192.9.200.6:7100 -from 192.9.200.136 &
> > [1] 600
> >
> > this is what I try to use to start xwinclip and this is what i get
> > $ export DISPLAY=:0.0
> > $ xwinclip.exe
> > Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> > Xlib: No protocol specified
> >
> > Could not open display
> >
> > Could some one please help me
>
>
>
>


From janneke@gnu.org  Thu Apr 11 04:08:00 2002
From: janneke@gnu.org (Jan Nieuwenhuizen)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 04:08:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <20020411002953.GA14903@redhat.com> (Christopher Faylor's
 message of "Wed, 10 Apr 2002 20:29:53 -0400")
References: 
	
	<20020411002953.GA14903@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Christopher Faylor  writes:

> AFAICT, both Red Hat and Debian allow upper/lower case, so there's no
> reason for us to restrict things.

All Debian packages are lower case, of course.  TAB completion is a
silly argument against using mixed case, but I just couldn't imagine
anyone would want mixed case package names, if they had a choice.
Probably a matter of taste, I'll try to get used to it :-)

Jan.

-- 
Jan Nieuwenhuizen  | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter
http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien       | http://www.lilypond.org


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Thu Apr 11 04:48:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 04:48:00 -0000
Subject: Installation of xkb files 
In-Reply-To: <3CB4BF49.6040605@znark.com>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Ian Burrell wrote:

> On Linux, the files are in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb, /etc/X11/xkb is a 
> symlink to that, and /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb is a symlink to /var/lib/xkb.

I'm using /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb for the xkb files. /etc/X11/xkb as a 
symlink to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb.  

xkbcomp itself uses /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb for the files.

bye
	ago
-- 
 Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr 11 05:54:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 05:54:00 -0000
Subject: fds_on_hold :o)
In-Reply-To: <004601c1e155$9093f550$6745a8c0@ALINEA.FR>
Message-ID: 

Nicolas,

A very good tip.  The error message doesn't show up when I use -xkb.  Now I
need to find out why.

Thanks,

Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: Escuder Nicolas [mailto:n.escuder@alineanet.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 8:37 AM
To: huntharo@msu.edu
Subject: fds_on_hold :o)


Hello

just start XWin with -kb option and konsole will work fine :)

see you

Nicolas


From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Thu Apr 11 08:39:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 08:39:00 -0000
Subject: Problems installing cygwin-xfree86 on a Dell WIN2K box
In-Reply-To: <200204111516.g3BFGdN1270631@mail.hiwaay.net>
References: <200204111516.g3BFGdN1270631@mail.hiwaay.net>
Message-ID: <20020411153944.GC11232@redhat.com>

Redirecting to the proper mailing list.

cgf

On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 10:17:28AM -0500, Dr. Lawrence Ward Spradley wrote:
>Sirs:
>
>	This is a (hopefully more illuminating) follow-up to a post from yesterday. 
>I am midstroke in installing cygwin-XFree86 on a Dell Win2000 box. As of 
>yesterday, I had followed the directions on the webpage detailing the 
>installation process verbatim. This meant that I had a limited cygwin install 
>(no vi, no grep, etc.). I have installed more of the tools as of this A.M. 
>and am able to provide more info on my status as of now. I attach the output 
>of "cygcheck -s -r -v" to describe my install as of now. I also looked 
>through the Xinstall.sh script to try to assess why it was stopping. It 
>appears to need a program called extract, which I think is part of the 
>XFree86 download. The script also contains comments about linking extract to 
>gnu-tar. I did an "ls -l" on my bin directory, which contains the extract 
>executable as well as the tar executable, & observed that they are different 
>(different sizes & date stamps). I want the XFree86 to be able to use rxvt as 
>a shell to begin with, but we will be possibly wanting to do more later. I am 
>still stuck in the XFree86 install with error messages from the Xinstall.sh 
>script complaining about the extract program being bad. Thanks in advance for 
>your time. I will be happy to provide any more info if needed.
>
>Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics
>Current System Time: Thu Apr 11 09:56:29 2002
>
>Windows 2000 Professional Ver 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1
>
>Path:	C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin
>	C:\cygwin\bin
>	C:\cygwin\bin
>	c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\Tools
>	c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\Msdev98\BIN
>	c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\DF98\BIN
>	c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\BIN
>	c:\WINNT\system32
>	c:\WINNT
>	c:\WINNT\System32\Wbem
>	c:\
>	c:\dell
>	c:\Program Files\Dell\Resolution Assistant\Common\bin
>	c:\TEC75\BIN
>	c:\ABSOFT\BIN
>
>SysDir: C:\WINNT\System32
>WinDir: C:\WINNT
>
>HOME = `c:\'
>MAKE_MODE = `unix'
>PWD = `/cygdrive/c/cygwin'
>USER = `lws'
>
>ABSOFT = `C:\ABSOFT'
>ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users'
>APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\Dr. Lawrence W. Spra\Application Data'
>COMMONPROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files\Common Files'
>COMPUTERNAME = `DELL'
>COMSPEC = `C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe'
>CPU = `i386'
>HOMEDRIVE = `C:'
>HOMEPATH = `\'
>INCLUDE = `C:\ABSOFT\CINCLUDE'
>LIB = `C:\ABSOFT\LIB'
>LINK_F90 = `imsl.lib imsls_err.lib imslmpistub.lib'
>LOGONSERVER = `\\DELL'
>MANPATH = `:/usr/ssl/man'
>NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1'
>OLDPWD = `/cygdrive/c/cygwin/tmp'
>OS2LIBPATH = `C:\WINNT\system32\os2\dll;'
>OS = `Windows_NT'
>PATHEXT = `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH'
>PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = `x86'
>PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 6, GenuineIntel'
>PROCESSOR_LEVEL = `6'
>PROCESSOR_REVISION = `0806'
>PROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files'
>PROMPT = `$P$G'
>PS1 = `\[\033]0;\w\007
>\033[32m\]\u@\h \[\033[33m\w\033[0m\]
>$ '
>SHLVL = `1'
>SYSTEMDRIVE = `C:'
>SYSTEMROOT = `C:\WINNT'
>TEC75HOME = `C:\TEC75'
>TEMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\DRLAWR~1.SPR\LOCALS~1\Temp'
>TERM = `cygwin'
>TMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\DRLAWR~1.SPR\LOCALS~1\Temp'
>TMPDIR = `c:\DOCUME~1\DRLAWR~1.SPR\LOCALS~1\Temp'
>USERDOMAIN = `DELL'
>USERNAME = `lws'
>USERPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\Dr. Lawrence W. Spra'
>VIM = `C:\PGI\cygusr\share\vim'
>VNI_F90_MSG = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\DF98\IMSL\MESSAGE'
>WINDIR = `C:\WINNT'
>_ = `/usr/bin/cygcheck.exe'
>
>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions
>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
>  (default) = `/cygdrive'
>  cygdrive flags = 0x00000022
>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options
>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup
>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0
>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts
>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\00
>  (default) = `C:'
>  unix = `/'
>  fbinary = 0x00000000
>  fsilent = 0x00000000
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/
>  (default) = `C:\cygwin'
>  flags = 0x0000000a
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/bin
>  (default) = `C:\cygwin/bin'
>  flags = 0x0000000a
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/lib
>  (default) = `C:\cygwin/lib'
>  flags = 0x0000000a
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\00
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\01
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\02
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\03
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\04
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\05
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\06
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\07
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\08
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\09
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0A
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0B
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0C
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0D
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0E
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0F
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\10
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\11
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\12
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\13
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\14
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\15
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\16
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\17
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\18
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\19
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\1A
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\1B
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\1C
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\1D
>
>a:  fd           N/A    N/A                    
>c:  hd  FAT32  57201Mb  32% CP    UN           
>d:  cd           N/A    N/A                    
>
>.              /cygdrive  user    binmode,noumount
>C:\cygwin      /          system  binmode
>C:\cygwin/bin  /usr/bin   system  binmode
>C:\cygwin/lib  /usr/lib   system  binmode
>
>Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe
>Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe
>Not Found: cpp (good!)
>Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe
>Not Found: gcc
>Not Found: gdb
>Not Found: ld
>Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe
>Not Found: make
>Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe
>Found: \bin\sh.exe
>Warning: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe hides \bin\sh.exe
>
>  390k 2001/01/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygtcl80.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/17 22:44
>    5k 2001/01/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>   10k 2001/01/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygtclreg80.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/17 22:44
>   19k 2002/02/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cyggdbm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/19 21:05
>   45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygform5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 0:28
>   26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygmenu5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 0:27
>  156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygncurses++5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 0:29
>  226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygncurses5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 0:17
>   15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygpanel5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 0:27
>   35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygform6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 0:03
>   20k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygmenu6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 0:03
>  175k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygncurses++6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 0:03
>  202k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygncurses6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 0:03
>   12k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygpanel6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 0:03
>   17k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cyghistory4.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/6 22:34
>  108k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygreadline4.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/6 22:34
>   20k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cyghistory5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/12 19:27
>  121k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygreadline5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/12 19:27
>   50k 2002/03/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygz.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/11 22:38
>   45k 2002/02/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygjbig1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/7 17:59
>  119k 2002/02/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygjpeg6b.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/8 23:19
>   22k 2001/12/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygintl-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/12/13 3:28
>  170k 2002/01/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygpng2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 19:05
>  621k 2002/01/16 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcrypto.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygcrypto.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/16 3:54
>  156k 2002/01/16 C:\cygwin\bin\cygssl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygssl.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/16 3:54
>   40k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcre.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygpcre.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 16:15
>   39k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcreposix.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygpcreposix.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 16:15
>  253k 2002/02/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygtiff3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/10 2:34
>  751k 2002/02/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygwin1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/25 10:14
>    Cygwin DLL version info:
>        DLL version: 1.3.10
>        DLL epoch: 19
>        DLL bad signal mask: 19005
>        DLL old termios: 5
>        DLL malloc env: 28
>        API major: 0
>        API minor: 51
>        Shared data: 3
>        DLL identifier: cygwin1
>        Mount registry: 2
>        Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions
>        Cygwin registry name: Cygwin
>        Program options name: Program Options
>        Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2
>        Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags
>        Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix
>        Cygdrive default prefix: 
>        Build date: Mon Feb 25 11:14:34 EST 2002
>        Shared id: cygwin1S3
>
>
>Cygwin Package Information
>Last downloaded files to: C:\cyginstall
>Last downloaded files from: ftp://archive.progeny.com/cygwin
>
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>diff                0.0                 
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>gzip                1.3.2-1             
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>jpeg                6b-7                
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>libintl1            0.10.40-1           
>libncurses5         5.2-1               
>libncurses6         5.2-8               
>libpng2             1.0.12-1            
>libreadline4        4.1-2               
>libreadline5        4.2a-1              
>login               1.4-3               
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>more                2.11o-1             
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>newlib-man          20001118-1          
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>pcre                3.7-1               
>perl                5.6.1-2             
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>tar                 1.13.19-1           
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>terminfo            5.2-1               
>textutils           2.0.21-1            
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>vim                 6.1-2               
>w32api              1.3-2               
>which               1.5-1               
>zlib                1.1.4-1             
>
>Use -h to see help about each section

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From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr 11 09:46:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 09:46:00 -0000
Subject: Problems installing cygwin-xfree86 on a Dell WIN2K box
In-Reply-To: <20020411153944.GC11232@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

If you read the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide instructions on installation
then you would know exactly what to do.

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:40 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Cc: cygwin@cygwin.com; lws@HiWAAY.net
> Subject: Re: Problems installing cygwin-xfree86 on a Dell WIN2K box
>
>
> Redirecting to the proper mailing list.
>
> cgf
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 10:17:28AM -0500, Dr. Lawrence Ward
> Spradley wrote:
> >Sirs:
> >
> >	This is a (hopefully more illuminating) follow-up to a post
> from yesterday.
> >I am midstroke in installing cygwin-XFree86 on a Dell Win2000 box. As of
> >yesterday, I had followed the directions on the webpage detailing the
> >installation process verbatim. This meant that I had a limited
> cygwin install
> >(no vi, no grep, etc.). I have installed more of the tools as of
> this A.M.
> >and am able to provide more info on my status as of now. I
> attach the output
> >of "cygcheck -s -r -v" to describe my install as of now. I also looked
> >through the Xinstall.sh script to try to assess why it was stopping. It
> >appears to need a program called extract, which I think is part of the
> >XFree86 download. The script also contains comments about
> linking extract to
> >gnu-tar. I did an "ls -l" on my bin directory, which contains
> the extract
> >executable as well as the tar executable, & observed that they
> are different
> >(different sizes & date stamps). I want the XFree86 to be able
> to use rxvt as
> >a shell to begin with, but we will be possibly wanting to do
> more later. I am
> >still stuck in the XFree86 install with error messages from the
> Xinstall.sh
> >script complaining about the extract program being bad. Thanks
> in advance for
> >your time. I will be happy to provide any more info if needed.
> >
> >Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics
> >Current System Time: Thu Apr 11 09:56:29 2002
> >
> >Windows 2000 Professional Ver 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1
> >
> >Path:	C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin
> >	C:\cygwin\bin
> >	C:\cygwin\bin
> >	c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\Tools
> >	c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\Msdev98\BIN
> >	c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\DF98\BIN
> >	c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\BIN
> >	c:\WINNT\system32
> >	c:\WINNT
> >	c:\WINNT\System32\Wbem
> >	c:\
> >	c:\dell
> >	c:\Program Files\Dell\Resolution Assistant\Common\bin
> >	c:\TEC75\BIN
> >	c:\ABSOFT\BIN
> >
> >SysDir: C:\WINNT\System32
> >WinDir: C:\WINNT
> >
> >HOME = `c:\'
> >MAKE_MODE = `unix'
> >PWD = `/cygdrive/c/cygwin'
> >USER = `lws'
> >
> >ABSOFT = `C:\ABSOFT'
> >ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users'
> >APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\Dr. Lawrence W.
> Spra\Application Data'
> >COMMONPROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files\Common Files'
> >COMPUTERNAME = `DELL'
> >COMSPEC = `C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe'
> >CPU = `i386'
> >HOMEDRIVE = `C:'
> >HOMEPATH = `\'
> >INCLUDE = `C:\ABSOFT\CINCLUDE'
> >LIB = `C:\ABSOFT\LIB'
> >LINK_F90 = `imsl.lib imsls_err.lib imslmpistub.lib'
> >LOGONSERVER = `\\DELL'
> >MANPATH = `:/usr/ssl/man'
> >NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1'
> >OLDPWD = `/cygdrive/c/cygwin/tmp'
> >OS2LIBPATH = `C:\WINNT\system32\os2\dll;'
> >OS = `Windows_NT'
> >PATHEXT = `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH'
> >PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = `x86'
> >PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 6, GenuineIntel'
> >PROCESSOR_LEVEL = `6'
> >PROCESSOR_REVISION = `0806'
> >PROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files'
> >PROMPT = `$P$G'
> >PS1 = `\[\033]0;\w\007
> >\033[32m\]\u@\h \[\033[33m\w\033[0m\]
> >$ '
> >SHLVL = `1'
> >SYSTEMDRIVE = `C:'
> >SYSTEMROOT = `C:\WINNT'
> >TEC75HOME = `C:\TEC75'
> >TEMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\DRLAWR~1.SPR\LOCALS~1\Temp'
> >TERM = `cygwin'
> >TMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\DRLAWR~1.SPR\LOCALS~1\Temp'
> >TMPDIR = `c:\DOCUME~1\DRLAWR~1.SPR\LOCALS~1\Temp'
> >USERDOMAIN = `DELL'
> >USERNAME = `lws'
> >USERPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\Dr. Lawrence W. Spra'
> >VIM = `C:\PGI\cygusr\share\vim'
> >VNI_F90_MSG = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual
> Studio\DF98\IMSL\MESSAGE'
> >WINDIR = `C:\WINNT'
> >_ = `/usr/bin/cygcheck.exe'
> >
> >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions
> >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
> >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
> >  (default) = `/cygdrive'
> >  cygdrive flags = 0x00000022
> >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options
> >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup
> >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0
> >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts
> >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\00
> >  (default) = `C:'
> >  unix = `/'
> >  fbinary = 0x00000000
> >  fsilent = 0x00000000
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/
> >  (default) = `C:\cygwin'
> >  flags = 0x0000000a
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/bin
> >  (default) = `C:\cygwin/bin'
> >  flags = 0x0000000a
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/lib
> >  (default) = `C:\cygwin/lib'
> >  flags = 0x0000000a
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\00
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\01
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\02
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\03
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\04
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\05
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\06
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\07
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\08
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\09
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\0A
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\0B
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\0C
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\0D
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\0E
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\0F
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\10
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\11
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\12
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\13
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\14
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\15
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\16
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\17
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\18
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\19
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\1A
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\1B
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\1C
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\1D
> >
> >a:  fd           N/A    N/A
> >c:  hd  FAT32  57201Mb  32% CP    UN
> >d:  cd           N/A    N/A
> >
> >.              /cygdrive  user    binmode,noumount
> >C:\cygwin      /          system  binmode
> >C:\cygwin/bin  /usr/bin   system  binmode
> >C:\cygwin/lib  /usr/lib   system  binmode
> >
> >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe
> >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe
> >Not Found: cpp (good!)
> >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe
> >Not Found: gcc
> >Not Found: gdb
> >Not Found: ld
> >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe
> >Not Found: make
> >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe
> >Found: \bin\sh.exe
> >Warning: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe hides \bin\sh.exe
> >
> >  390k 2001/01/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygtcl80.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/17 22:44
> >    5k 2001/01/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >   10k 2001/01/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygtclreg80.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/17 22:44
> >   19k 2002/02/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cyggdbm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/19 21:05
> >   45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygform5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 0:28
> >   26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygmenu5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 0:27
> >  156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll - os=4.0
> img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygncurses++5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 0:29
> >  226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygncurses5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 0:17
> >   15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygpanel5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 0:27
> >   35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygform6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 0:03
> >   20k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygmenu6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 0:03
> >  175k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll - os=4.0
> img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygncurses++6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 0:03
> >  202k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygncurses6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 0:03
> >   12k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygpanel6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 0:03
> >   17k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cyghistory4.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/6 22:34
> >  108k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygreadline4.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/6 22:34
> >   20k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cyghistory5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/12 19:27
> >  121k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygreadline5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/12 19:27
> >   50k 2002/03/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygz.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/11 22:38
> >   45k 2002/02/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygjbig1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/7 17:59
> >  119k 2002/02/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygjpeg6b.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/8 23:19
> >   22k 2001/12/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygintl-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/12/13 3:28
> >  170k 2002/01/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygpng2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 19:05
> >  621k 2002/01/16 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcrypto.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygcrypto.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/16 3:54
> >  156k 2002/01/16 C:\cygwin\bin\cygssl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygssl.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/16 3:54
> >   40k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcre.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygpcre.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 16:15
> >   39k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcreposix.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygpcreposix.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 16:15
> >  253k 2002/02/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygtiff3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/10 2:34
> >  751k 2002/02/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygwin1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/25 10:14
> >    Cygwin DLL version info:
> >        DLL version: 1.3.10
> >        DLL epoch: 19
> >        DLL bad signal mask: 19005
> >        DLL old termios: 5
> >        DLL malloc env: 28
> >        API major: 0
> >        API minor: 51
> >        Shared data: 3
> >        DLL identifier: cygwin1
> >        Mount registry: 2
> >        Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions
> >        Cygwin registry name: Cygwin
> >        Program options name: Program Options
> >        Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2
> >        Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags
> >        Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix
> >        Cygdrive default prefix:
> >        Build date: Mon Feb 25 11:14:34 EST 2002
> >        Shared id: cygwin1S3
> >
> >
> >Cygwin Package Information
> >Last downloaded files to: C:\cyginstall
> >Last downloaded files from: ftp://archive.progeny.com/cygwin
> >
> >Package             Version
> >ash                 20020131-1
> >bash                2.05a-3
> >crypt               1.0-1
> >cygwin              1.3.10-1
> >diff                0.0
> >ed                  0.2-1
> >expect              20010117-1
> >fileutils           4.1-1
> >findutils           4.1
> >gawk                3.0.4-1
> >gdbm                1.8.0-4
> >grep                2.5-1
> >groff               1.17.2-1
> >gzip                1.3.2-1
> >jbigkit             1.2-6
> >jpeg                6b-7
> >less                374-1
> >libintl1            0.10.40-1
> >libncurses5         5.2-1
> >libncurses6         5.2-8
> >libpng2             1.0.12-1
> >libreadline4        4.1-2
> >libreadline5        4.2a-1
> >login               1.4-3
> >m4                  0.0
> >man                 1.5g-2
> >more                2.11o-1
> >ncurses             5.2-8
> >newlib-man          20001118-1
> >opengl              1.1.0-6
> >openssl             0.9.6c-3
> >pcre                3.7-1
> >perl                5.6.1-2
> >readline            4.2a-1
> >rxvt                2.7.2-10
> >sed                 3.02-1
> >sh-utils            2.0-2
> >tar                 1.13.19-1
> >tcsh                6.11.00-4
> >termcap             20020403-1
> >terminfo            5.2-1
> >textutils           2.0.21-1
> >tiff                3.5.7-1
> >vim                 6.1-2
> >w32api              1.3-2
> >which               1.5-1
> >zlib                1.1.4-1
> >
> >Use -h to see help about each section
>
> >--
> >Unsubscribe info:      http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
> >Bug reporting:         http://cygwin.com/bugs.html
> >Documentation:         http://cygwin.com/docs.html
> >FAQ:                   http://cygwin.com/faq/


From cgf@redhat.com  Thu Apr 11 13:56:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:56:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <3CB4AE32.6000108@ece.gatech.edu>
References: <3CB3C24E.9060803@znark.com> <20020410053447.GA15157@redhat.com> <3CB49F1C.7000604@znark.com> <3CB4AE32.6000108@ece.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <20020411205654.GB14586@redhat.com>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 05:27:14PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote:
>Ian, Chris wants the setup hint files IN the mailing list archive 
>permanently.  Not sitting on an external, subject-to-change website.
>
>I've pasted them here.

These look ok except the "version:" field is a no-op in setup.hint and
should be removed.

Has anyone looked at the packages themselves?

cgf

>--- xfree86-base ---
>sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 base"
>category: XFree86
>requires: cygwin ash xfree86-fonts
>ldesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 is a port of the X Window System to Cygwin. The
>X server runs under Windows and displays X clients running on the
>local or other machines. It can run in full screen and single window
>modes.
>
>This package contains the programs, libraries, and config files to run
>the X server and other X clients. The xfree86-fonts package is also
>required. The other packages contain headers, programs, and
>documentation for development."
>
>
>--- xfree86-devel ---
>sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 development files"
>category: XFree86
>requires: xfree86-base
>ldesc: "This package contains the libraries, headers, and man pages
>for compiling X Windows programs."
>
>
>--- xfree86-doc ---
>sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 text documentation"
>category: XFree86
>ldesc: "XFree86 development documentation in text, HTML, and PostScript 
>formats."
>
>--- xfree86-fonts ---
>sdesc: "Cygwin-XFree86 fonts"
>category: XFree86
>requires: xfree86-base
>ldesc: "This package contains fonts for XFree86. It contains the
>100dpi, 75dpi, misc, scaled, and cyrillic sets. This package is
>required."
>
>
>--- xfree86-xfs ---
>sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 font server"
>category: XFree86
>requires: cygwin xfree86-base
>version: 4.2.0-1
>ldesc: "This package contains the font server for XFree86."
>
>
>--- xfree86-xnest ---
>sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 nested server"
>category: XFree86
>requires: cygwin xfree86-base
>version: 4.2.0-1
>ldesc: "Xnest is an X server that runs as a client for another X
>server. It is used for testing X clients and servers."
>
>
>--- xfree86-xprt ---
>sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 printing server"
>category: XFree86
>requires: cygwin xfree86-base
>version: 4.2.0-1
>ldesc: "Xprt is an X server that prints the display to a PostScript file."
>
>
>--- xfree86-xvfb ---
>sdesc: "Cygwin-XFree86 virtual framebuffer server"
>category: XFree86
>requires: cygwin xfree86-base
>version: 4.2.0-1
>ldesc: "Xvfb is an X server that runs without any display using a
>virtual framebuffer. This server runs without any display. It is used
>for testing X clients and servers."


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr 11 14:06:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:06:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <3CB4B09C.1070606@znark.com>
Message-ID: 

Ian,

> Good idea. I'm going to call it xfree86-xwin though. I think I'll put
> the startup-scripts.tgz in this package.

That sounds fine.

Can I also request that you use a seperate variable for the server version
number?  I'd ask that because the server will tend to get updated often
while most of the other packages will never be updated.

I'm really looking forward to these packages getting finished.

Do you think you've got a handle on creating the symlinks that Xinstall.sh
creates?

Harold


> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ian Burrell
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:38 PM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: xfree packages
>
>
> Harold Hunt wrote:
> > Yes, we try to keep things regularized around here, so XFree86
> is the way
> > that the package names need to be spelled.
> >
> > Also, I request that you keep the XFree86-xserv package, as
> that will allow
> > us to realize the immediate benefit of being able to release the Test-**
> > server or updates to the stable server as small downloads that
> everyone can
> > keep up to date with.
> >
>
> Good idea. I'm going to call it xfree86-xwin though. I think I'll put
> the startup-scripts.tgz in this package.
>
>   - Ian
>
> --
> iburrell@znark.com
> http://www.znark.com/
>


From iburrell@znark.com  Thu Apr 11 16:10:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 16:10:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
References: 
Message-ID: <3CB617C1.9040001@znark.com>

Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> That sounds fine.
> 
> Can I also request that you use a seperate variable for the server version
> number?  I'd ask that because the server will tend to get updated often
> while most of the other packages will never be updated.
> 
> I'm really looking forward to these packages getting finished.
> 
> Do you think you've got a handle on creating the symlinks that Xinstall.sh
> creates?
> 

Did you notice any symlinks that were missing? The build.sh script is 
supposed to create and package the links that Xinstall.sh makes. I don't 
think Xinstall.sh behaviour is quite right for the xkb files.

I posted the xfree86-xwin package and modified xfree86-base to my web 
site. I have appended the new setup.hint files.

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


xfree86-base:

sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 base"
category: XFree86
requires: cygwin ash xfree86-fonts xfree86-xwin
ldesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 is a port of the X Window System to Cygwin.

This package contains the programs, libraries, and config files needed
to run an X server and clients. It also include the X clients from the
standard X distribution like xterm and twm. You will need to install
the xfree86-xwin package with the Windows X server. The xfree86-fonts
package is also required. The other packages contain headers,
programs, and documentation for development."


xfree86-xwin:

sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 Windows X server"
category: XFree86
requires: cygwin xfree86-base
ldesc: "XWin is the X server for Windows. It can run in two different
modes, full screen or inside Windows window. It has four different
engines to drawing, Shadow GDI, Shadow DirectDraw, and Native GDI."



From iburrell@znark.com  Thu Apr 11 17:30:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 17:30:00 -0000
Subject: Installation of xkb files
References: 
Message-ID: <3CB62A7E.8020209@znark.com>

Alexander Gottwald wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Ian Burrell wrote:
> 
> 
>>On Linux, the files are in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb, /etc/X11/xkb is a 
>>symlink to that, and /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb is a symlink to /var/lib/xkb.
> 
> 
> I'm using /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb for the xkb files. /etc/X11/xkb as a 
> symlink to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb.  
> 
> xkbcomp itself uses /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb for the files.
> 

Where does /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled point?

I think the layout from "make install" is correct. The files are 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb, compiled is a link to /etc/X11/xkb, and 
/etc/X11/xkb just contains a README file. I don't know why the binary 
distribution is different. I can't see anything in the makefiles or 
bindist scripts that be different.

I changed the packaging to reflect the "make install".

  - Ian

-- 
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From saunup@hotmail.com  Thu Apr 11 20:26:00 2002
From: saunup@hotmail.com (Nupur Saurabh)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 20:26:00 -0000
Subject: logos
Message-ID: 

hi all,

attached are some logos 

with some graphics 

http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logog.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logod.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logof.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logoc.jpg



without graphics

http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logoa.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logoe.jpg


suggestions, comments and feedback are welcome

nupur


From eugenius@dingoblue.net.au  Thu Apr 11 22:54:00 2002
From: eugenius@dingoblue.net.au (Eugene Rosenzweig)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 22:54:00 -0000
Subject: logos
References: 
Message-ID: <023c01c1e1e6$89967070$0300a8c0@bluebox>

I think they look quite good. In the last logo thread I got the impression
that people wanted the established Cygwin logo for letter C, maybe you can
add a variation on that to your list.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nupur Saurabh" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:40 PM
Subject: logos


> hi all,
>
> attached are some logos
>
> with some graphics
>
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logog.jpg
>
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logod.jpg
>
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logof.jpg
>
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logoc.jpg
>
>
>
> without graphics
>
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logoa.jpg
>
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logoe.jpg
>
>
> suggestions, comments and feedback are welcome
>
> nupur


From cgf@redhat.com  Thu Apr 11 23:06:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 23:06:00 -0000
Subject: logos
In-Reply-To: <023c01c1e1e6$89967070$0300a8c0@bluebox>
References:  <023c01c1e1e6$89967070$0300a8c0@bluebox>
Message-ID: <20020412060623.GA28380@redhat.com>

On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 03:54:39PM +1000, Eugene Rosenzweig wrote:
>I think they look quite good.  In the last logo thread I got the
>impression that people wanted the established Cygwin logo for letter C,
>maybe you can add a variation on that to your list.

That's correct.  The logo that is being used is apparently the old
"Cyg*nus*" logo.

While I like the logo, I'd prefer the current Cygwin one.  Or even an a
completely new Cygwin logo, for that matter.

This is just my preference for the Cygwin part of Cygwin/XFree86.

cgf

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Nupur Saurabh" 
>To: 
>Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:40 PM
>Subject: logos
>
>
>> hi all,
>>
>> attached are some logos
>>
>> with some graphics
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logog.jpg
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logod.jpg
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logof.jpg
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logoc.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>> without graphics
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logoa.jpg
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logoe.jpg
>>
>>
>> suggestions, comments and feedback are welcome
>>
>> nupur


From jesse@fractalgraphics.com.au  Fri Apr 12 00:21:00 2002
From: jesse@fractalgraphics.com.au (Jesse Pepper)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 00:21:00 -0000
Subject: Windows placed directly onto desktop (dream or reality)
Message-ID: <005c01c1e1f2$afeaa410$6b173bcb@peppo>

Hi All,

Sorry in advance if this issue has already been discussed, but I
couldn't find any info on it.

I have a recollection of running XWin on a windows box, and being able
to display windows directly onto the desktop.

That is, one "ms windows" window per x-window.  Is this actually a dream
I had, or is it really possible.  If so, how does one go about achieving
this high state.

I want to be able to overlay "ms windows" windows and "x windows" over
one another.

Thanks,

Jesse

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From Tim.Huckvale@Charteris.com  Fri Apr 12 02:32:00 2002
From: Tim.Huckvale@Charteris.com (Tim Huckvale)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 02:32:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
Message-ID: 

I'm interested in a minimal cygwin / xfree86 package since I'm only
using it to control my SuSE Linux fileserver and internet gateway which
sits in a corner with no keyboard or monitor. I connect via xdm and run
KDE desktop. The total cygwin and xfree86 installation takes up 100
Mbyte disk space, which seems excessive.

I removed the 75dpi fonts in response to Ian's remark below, but had to
put them back when I found that the KDE desktop looked horrible. (It
still doesn't display SuSE's yast2 windows properly, but that's another
story.)

I guess you can't come up with a minimal package that suits everyone,
but perhaps it's worth recording experiences such as mine in the
archive.

Thanks to all involved in cygwin/xfree86 development - you're doing a
super job!

Regards,
Tim



> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ian Burrell
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:49
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Cc: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
> ....
> There are a couple of refinements that can be made to the 
> repackaging. 
> First, the 75dpi fonts make up the bulk (10MB) of the fonts 
> package and 
> aren't strictly required. They could be made their own package. The 
> miscellaneous fonts could be folded into the base package so there is 
> only one required package.
> ...

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From mbradford@bahaigear.com  Fri Apr 12 03:26:00 2002
From: mbradford@bahaigear.com (Matthew Bradford)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 03:26:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
Message-ID: <006a01c1e20c$72375b80$0a00a8c0@henry>

I am having quite a time trying to get cygwin-xfree to log into my redhat
7.2 server via XDMCP.  I have read (and reread) a couple of howto's on the
subject and so AFAIK all the config files are set properly.  (and yes, I
have restarted kdm and even the whole server just to be absolutely sure)  So
here are the details of the problem:

command used to launch xfree:
XWin.exe -ac -query 192.168.0.11

and after running top at a high refresh speed on the server and trying to
start X on my winXP box I see that kdm starts and then it times out
eventually.  I can connect to this server with another Linux box via XDMCP
with no problems so I am at a loss as to what could be going on.

Oh, as for versions of everything:
Client:
    WinXP
    Latest CygWin (just downloaded it today as a fresh install)
    Latest CygWin-XFree (4.2.0)

Server:
    RedHat 7.2
    KDE 3.0
    running KDM (whatever would come with RedHat 7.2 or KDE 3.. not sure if
it is attached to KDE or not)

Any help would be much appreciated.

TIA
    Matt


From xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz  Fri Apr 12 04:55:00 2002
From: xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz (David Komanek)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 04:55:00 -0000
Subject: Xfree and OpenGL
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 


Harold,

as I wrote before, I AM able to run xterm. Probably I don't know which
SGI applications are powered by OpenGL, and there is possibility, some of
the apps I cannot run are not these, but it is obvious that standard X11
apps are running and SGI specials (i.e. management utilities started from
toolchest) aren't.

BR,

  David



> David,
> 
> Just as a sanity check, you have run non OpenGL applications from your SGI
> machine using Cygwin/XFree86, right?  I mean, it wouldn't make much sense to
> jump right into debugging complex applications if an xterm doesn't work
> correctly.
> 
> Just let us know that you have in fact done this.
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of David Komanek
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:07 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: Xfree and OpenGL
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Alan,
> >
> > thanks for your comments/advices. I tried glxgears and it works. The gears
> > are not rotating fluent enough on my 800MHz pentium, but I don't expect
> > this is related to my problem.
> >
> > I am able to start xterm, swmgr, toolchest connecting to SGI 6.5.14 box
> > which probably use classical X11 and Motif library only. Trying to start
> > i.e. "jot", it claims:
> >
> > dgl error (protocol): remote machine not DGL capable - meda:10.0
> > dgl error (default init): default dglopen(meda:10.0,4) returned -13
> >
> > Connecting to another box, running IRIX 6.2, it is even worse - swmgr
> > shows only the first "Wait please ...." window and then you can wait for
> > hours and the main window does not appear. In the xterm you can see
> > following message:
> >
> > WARNING: Not all colors for application icons could be allocated.  Some
> > interface elements may have different colors.
> > Warning: creating new shape image
> >
> > Jot coredumps, many others too.
> > Toolchest starts fine, but no apps called invoked from its menus.
> >
> > When I run this apps on the local graphics console of an SGI box, it works
> > fine.
> >
> > Well, this problem is not connection type related (both ssh and
> > telnet+xhost produce same results). Probably should I install something on
> > the SGI boxes to translate DGL requests into the X11 protocol (rendered on
> > the server side, but at least working) ?
> >
> > Any ideas are appreciated.
> >
> > David
> >
kk


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr 12 04:56:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 04:56:00 -0000
Subject: Windows placed directly onto desktop (dream or reality)
In-Reply-To: <005c01c1e1f2$afeaa410$6b173bcb@peppo>
Message-ID: 

Jesse,

You were dreaming.

Robert Collins is working on the feature, but it is complex, so don't hold
your breath waiting.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jesse Pepper
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 3:22 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Windows placed directly onto desktop (dream or reality)
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Sorry in advance if this issue has already been discussed, but I
> couldn't find any info on it.
>
> I have a recollection of running XWin on a windows box, and being able
> to display windows directly onto the desktop.
>
> That is, one "ms windows" window per x-window.  Is this actually a dream
> I had, or is it really possible.  If so, how does one go about achieving
> this high state.
>
> I want to be able to overlay "ms windows" windows and "x windows" over
> one another.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jesse
>
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From xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz  Fri Apr 12 05:17:00 2002
From: xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz (David Komanek)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 05:17:00 -0000
Subject: Xfree and OpenGL
In-Reply-To: <20020412120924.3832.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 


Thank to all people who sent answers to my problem. I think, we can close
this thread just now, after you told me OpenGL, and GL are two different
things and after you confirmed I'll will never be able to send some SGI
apps to non-SGI display.

Thanks again.

  David



Suhaib Siddiqi wrote:

>  Most (NOT ALL) of those management utilities on SGI (IRIX) are in
> fact not OpenGL applications.  Thay are GL and they wont run under
> Xfree86, in fact under almost all X-servers.  you will get error "gl
> error display.  remote display does not support gl".  GL is SGI
> propretary extension.  For example if you try to display jot on a
> Linux or Solaris, you will never work.  You MAY remotely display SGI
> applications liked GL libraries, only if you but SGI hardware with SGI
> version of RedHat Linux installed on it.  From Windows, most of the
> time you are up in the air if you are trying to an application which
> uses SGI GL exntension.




From ssiddiqi.no.spam@ssiddiqi.net  Fri Apr 12 05:22:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi.no.spam@ssiddiqi.net (ssiddiqi.no.spam@ssiddiqi.net)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 05:22:00 -0000
Subject: XFree and OpenGL
Message-ID: 

Most of the SGI special utilities are linked to SGI propretary GL 
libraries and they wont display on XFree86 - in fact on any remote 
x-server. For example if you start jot, you will get an error gl not
supported 
on remote display. GL is SGI old propretary extension and IRIX is 
still shipped with many utilities linked to old GL libraries (NOT OpenGL).
They cannot 
be displayed on any remote X-server, except a remote SGI workstation, 
period. It is not XFree86 fault.

Suhaib
David Komanek  wrote: 

Harold,

as I wrote before, I AM able to run xterm. Probably I don't know which
SGI applications are powered by OpenGL, and there is possibility, some of
the apps I cannot run are not these, but it is obvious that standard X11
apps are running and SGI specials (i.e. management utilities started from
toolchest) aren't.

BR,

David



> David,
> 
> Just as a sanity check, you have run non OpenGL applications from your SGI
> machine using Cygwin/XFree86, right? I mean, it wouldn't make much sense
to
> jump right into debugging complex applications if an xterm doesn't work
> correctly.
> 
> Just let us know that you have in fact done this.
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of David Komanek
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:07 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: Xfree and OpenGL
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Alan,
> >
> > thanks for your comments/advices. I tried glxgears and it works. The
gears
> > are not rotating fluent enough on my 800MHz pentium, but I don't expect
> > this is related to my problem.
> >
> > I am able to start xterm, swmgr, toolchest connecting to SGI 6.5.14 box
> > which probably use classical X11 and Motif library only. Trying to start
> > i.e. "jot", it claims:
> >
> > dgl error (protocol): remote machine not DGL capable - meda:10.0
> > dgl error (default init): default dglopen(meda:10.0,4) returned -13
> >
> > Connecting to another box, running IRIX 6.2, it is even worse - swmgr
> > shows only the first "Wait please ...." window and then you can wait for
> > hours and the main window does not appear. In the xterm you can see
> > following message:
> >
> > WARNING: Not all colors for application icons could be allocated. Some
> > interface elements may have different colors.
> > Warning: creating new shape image
> >
> > Jot coredumps, many others too.
> > Toolchest starts fine, but no apps called invoked from its menus.
> >
> > When I run this apps on the local graphics console of an SGI box, it
works
> > fine.
> >
> > Well, this problem is not connection type related (both ssh and
> > telnet+xhost produce same results). Probably should I install something
on
> > the SGI boxes to translate DGL requests into the X11 protocol (rendered
on
> > the server side, but at least working) ?
> >
> > Any ideas are appreciated.
> >
> > David
> >
kk



From salexander@taz.qinetiq.com  Fri Apr 12 06:46:00 2002
From: salexander@taz.qinetiq.com (Scott Alexander)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 06:46:00 -0000
Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
References: <200204101705.42781.mmanohar@attbi.com>
Message-ID: <001301c1e228$a2121db0$2153b80a@gooshy>

Thanks a lot this solved my problem also.

Cheers for the help
Scott Alexander.


 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Joan Bertran [mailto:jbertran@cirsa.com]
 > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 8:40 AM
 > To: huntharo@msu.edu
 > Subject: RE: kde 3.0 no icons
 >
 >
 >   I have the same problem and i have found a workaround,
 > just reducing the M$-windows color depth from 32 bit to 15 bits
 > per pixel (it's the only high-color options on my driver) solves this
 > and all icons are displayed fine.
 >
 >               Joan Bertran.
 >
 >



From eugenius@dingoblue.net.au  Fri Apr 12 07:12:00 2002
From: eugenius@dingoblue.net.au (Eugene Rosenzweig)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 07:12:00 -0000
Subject: Windows placed directly onto desktop (dream or reality)
References: <005c01c1e1f2$afeaa410$6b173bcb@peppo>
Message-ID: <02aa01c1e22c$0c1dea10$0300a8c0@bluebox>

X-Win32 from www.starnet.com and Hummingbird Exceed X server provide native
window modes but they are both pricey commercial products and they don't
have the advantage of the having the whole cygwin environment. It is handy
to be have the ability to have native X windows, provides more seamless
integration with native GUI. I look forward to XFree86 support for it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jesse Pepper" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 5:21 PM
Subject: Windows placed directly onto desktop (dream or reality)


> Hi All,
>
> Sorry in advance if this issue has already been discussed, but I
> couldn't find any info on it.
>
> I have a recollection of running XWin on a windows box, and being able
> to display windows directly onto the desktop.
>
> That is, one "ms windows" window per x-window.  Is this actually a dream
> I had, or is it really possible.  If so, how does one go about achieving
> this high state.
>
> I want to be able to overlay "ms windows" windows and "x windows" over
> one another.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jesse
>
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From lws@hiwaay.net  Fri Apr 12 07:16:00 2002
From: lws@hiwaay.net (Dr. Lawrence  W. Spradley)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 07:16:00 -0000
Subject: Problems installing cygwin-xfree86 on a Dell WIN2K box
References: 
Message-ID: <002601c1e22c$c537ee60$2204b4d8@default>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
Subject: RE: Problems installing cygwin-xfree86 on a Dell WIN2K box

Harold:

    Thanks for your response. I was, in fact, following those directions
verbatim, on that very web page, when the Xinstall.sh script exited with an
error meassage saying that the extract command wasn't working properly &
admonishing me to fix that & try again. I had just downloaded the entire
XFree86 package Wednesday A.M. from ftp.nas.nasa.gov using the ftp command
from the cygwin bash shell command line ("mget *" from the
.../xfree/4.2.0/binaries directory). This download included the extract
command which I believe Xinstall.sh tried to use to unpack everything (after
I copied it to the /bin directory from the bash command line). I guess my
question is "what do I need to do to 'fix' the extract command & try again"
? Would the regular tar command downloaded earlier & included w/ the basic
cygwin package work ? Thanks in advance.

> If you read the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide instructions on installation
> then you would know exactly what to do.
>
> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/
>
> Harold
>



From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Fri Apr 12 08:43:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 08:43:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: <006a01c1e20c$72375b80$0a00a8c0@henry>
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Matthew Bradford wrote:

> start X on my winXP box I see that kdm starts and then it times out
> eventually.  I can connect to this server with another Linux box via XDMCP

What do you mean with "times out"?

bye
    ago
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From mbradford@bahaigear.com  Fri Apr 12 11:11:00 2002
From: mbradford@bahaigear.com (Matthew Bradford)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 11:11:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
References: 
Message-ID: <00e601c1e24d$5eaeaeb0$0a00a8c0@henry>

Just that a new version of kdm is spawned and then eventually it dies.  I am
assuming this is a timeout because it cannot connect to the X server.  (see
my second message on this subject)  To sum up, I can run remote X programs
when using SSH -X, however if I telnet in and set the DISPLAY variable it
refuses the connection no matter what.

    - Matt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Gottwald" 
To: "Matthew Bradford" 
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2


> On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Matthew Bradford wrote:
>
> > start X on my winXP box I see that kdm starts and then it times out
> > eventually.  I can connect to this server with another Linux box via
XDMCP
>
> What do you mean with "times out"?
>
> bye
>     ago
> --
>  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
>  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
>  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017
>  4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr 12 11:18:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 11:18:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: <00e601c1e24d$5eaeaeb0$0a00a8c0@henry>
Message-ID: 

Matt,

Did we already ask if you have multiple network cards in your Windows
machine, or any token ring cards?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:11 PM
> To: Alexander Gottwald
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
>
>
> Just that a new version of kdm is spawned and then eventually it
> dies.  I am
> assuming this is a timeout because it cannot connect to the X
> server.  (see
> my second message on this subject)  To sum up, I can run remote X programs
> when using SSH -X, however if I telnet in and set the DISPLAY variable it
> refuses the connection no matter what.
>
>     - Matt
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alexander Gottwald" 
> To: "Matthew Bradford" 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:43 AM
> Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
>
>
> > On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Matthew Bradford wrote:
> >
> > > start X on my winXP box I see that kdm starts and then it times out
> > > eventually.  I can connect to this server with another Linux box via
> XDMCP
> >
> > What do you mean with "times out"?
> >
> > bye
> >     ago
> > --
> >  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
> >  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
> >  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017
> >  4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4
>


From jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk  Fri Apr 12 13:03:00 2002
From: jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk (Jim George)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 13:03:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
References: 
Message-ID: <009101c1e25c$e559a2d0$0100a8c0@gateway>

If you SuSE Linux box is only acting as a fileserver, gateway why run X on
it?  If you make it run at runlevel 3 then it only needs the command prompt
and you won't need xfree86 under cygwin to access it.

Indeed you don't anyway, simply ssh or telnet to Linux box.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Huckvale" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?


I'm interested in a minimal cygwin / xfree86 package since I'm only
using it to control my SuSE Linux fileserver and internet gateway which
sits in a corner with no keyboard or monitor. I connect via xdm and run
KDE desktop. The total cygwin and xfree86 installation takes up 100
Mbyte disk space, which seems excessive.

I removed the 75dpi fonts in response to Ian's remark below, but had to
put them back when I found that the KDE desktop looked horrible. (It
still doesn't display SuSE's yast2 windows properly, but that's another
story.)

I guess you can't come up with a minimal package that suits everyone,
but perhaps it's worth recording experiences such as mine in the
archive.

Thanks to all involved in cygwin/xfree86 development - you're doing a
super job!

Regards,
Tim



> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ian Burrell
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:49
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Cc: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
> ....
> There are a couple of refinements that can be made to the
> repackaging.
> First, the 75dpi fonts make up the bulk (10MB) of the fonts
> package and
> aren't strictly required. They could be made their own package. The
> miscellaneous fonts could be folded into the base package so there is
> only one required package.
> ...

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From mbradford@bahaigear.com  Fri Apr 12 13:06:00 2002
From: mbradford@bahaigear.com (Matthew Bradford)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 13:06:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
References: 
Message-ID: <00fe01c1e25d$6f8a8730$0a00a8c0@henry>

No you haven't asked, but no.  Only one card that gets its address from the
DHCP server on my network.  (Also a linux box)

Good question though.. I am assuming you thought perhaps I was tryin to
access the wrong network?
    - Matt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: "Matthew Bradford" 
Cc: "cygx" 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2


> Matt,
>
> Did we already ask if you have multiple network cards in your Windows
> machine, or any token ring cards?
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:11 PM
> > To: Alexander Gottwald
> > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> >
> >
> > Just that a new version of kdm is spawned and then eventually it
> > dies.  I am
> > assuming this is a timeout because it cannot connect to the X
> > server.  (see
> > my second message on this subject)  To sum up, I can run remote X
programs
> > when using SSH -X, however if I telnet in and set the DISPLAY variable
it
> > refuses the connection no matter what.
> >
> >     - Matt
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alexander Gottwald"

> > To: "Matthew Bradford" 
> > Cc: 
> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> >
> >
> > > On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > >
> > > > start X on my winXP box I see that kdm starts and then it times out
> > > > eventually.  I can connect to this server with another Linux box via
> > XDMCP
> > >
> > > What do you mean with "times out"?
> > >
> > > bye
> > >     ago
> > > --
> > >  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
> > >  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
> > >  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017
> > >  4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4
> >


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr 12 13:28:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 13:28:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: <00fe01c1e25d$6f8a8730$0a00a8c0@henry>
Message-ID: 

Matt,

> No you haven't asked, but no.

Good.

> Good question though.. I am assuming you thought perhaps I was tryin to
> access the wrong network?

Not quite.  The Cygwin folks (esp. Alexander Gottwald) have been working for
some time to make sure that cygwin1.dll is able to return correct
information on the available network interfaces.  The problem situations
have been when a machine has more than one network card, or a token ring
network card.  You don't have either so this isn't a problem.

> Only one card that gets its address from the
> DHCP server on my network.  (Also a linux box)

Hmm... perhaps you should try using the -from parameter with the IP address
of the Windows machine that you are using Cygwin/XFree86 on.  I suspect that
there may be a problem with Windows reporting a certain hostname that your
Linux box can't find an IP address for.  Here's  an example command line:

XWin -query linux_ip_address -from windows_ip_address

Let me know,

Harold


> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 4:06 PM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygx
> Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
>
>
> No you haven't asked, but no.  Only one card that gets its
> address from the
> DHCP server on my network.  (Also a linux box)
>
> Good question though.. I am assuming you thought perhaps I was tryin to
> access the wrong network?
>     - Matt
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harold Hunt" 
> To: "Matthew Bradford" 
> Cc: "cygx" 
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:18 PM
> Subject: RE: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
>
>
> > Matt,
> >
> > Did we already ask if you have multiple network cards in your Windows
> > machine, or any token ring cards?
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:11 PM
> > > To: Alexander Gottwald
> > > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > >
> > >
> > > Just that a new version of kdm is spawned and then eventually it
> > > dies.  I am
> > > assuming this is a timeout because it cannot connect to the X
> > > server.  (see
> > > my second message on this subject)  To sum up, I can run remote X
> programs
> > > when using SSH -X, however if I telnet in and set the DISPLAY variable
> it
> > > refuses the connection no matter what.
> > >
> > >     - Matt
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Alexander Gottwald"
> 
> > > To: "Matthew Bradford" 
> > > Cc: 
> > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:43 AM
> > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > start X on my winXP box I see that kdm starts and then it
> times out
> > > > > eventually.  I can connect to this server with another
> Linux box via
> > > XDMCP
> > > >
> > > > What do you mean with "times out"?
> > > >
> > > > bye
> > > >     ago
> > > > --
> > > >  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
> > > >  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
> > > >  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017
> > > >  4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4
> > >
>


From mbradford@bahaigear.com  Fri Apr 12 14:06:00 2002
From: mbradford@bahaigear.com (Matthew Bradford)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 14:06:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
References: 
Message-ID: <013201c1e265$da54cf50$0a00a8c0@henry>

Harold,

First, thank you very much for your time and attention.  Now onto the
results of your last email:

I've tried that before, but I tried it again just to be sure... and still no
go.

did you get my previous email talking about the connection refused issue?  I
think this is related.  The only way I can get any remote X app to run is
when I tunnel it through SSH.  Setting the export variable doesn't work.
(even when i run xhost + and/or pass the -ac option to the X server)  It is
acting as if access control is on still.

Any ideas on how to fix that?  I'll put ya money on it that is the issue.  I
just have no idea how to fix it.

    - Matt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: "Matthew Bradford" 
Cc: "cygx" 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 4:28 PM
Subject: RE: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2


> Matt,
>
> > No you haven't asked, but no.
>
> Good.
>
> > Good question though.. I am assuming you thought perhaps I was tryin to
> > access the wrong network?
>
> Not quite.  The Cygwin folks (esp. Alexander Gottwald) have been working
for
> some time to make sure that cygwin1.dll is able to return correct
> information on the available network interfaces.  The problem situations
> have been when a machine has more than one network card, or a token ring
> network card.  You don't have either so this isn't a problem.
>
> > Only one card that gets its address from the
> > DHCP server on my network.  (Also a linux box)
>
> Hmm... perhaps you should try using the -from parameter with the IP
address
> of the Windows machine that you are using Cygwin/XFree86 on.  I suspect
that
> there may be a problem with Windows reporting a certain hostname that your
> Linux box can't find an IP address for.  Here's  an example command line:
>
> XWin -query linux_ip_address -from windows_ip_address
>
> Let me know,
>
> Harold
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 4:06 PM
> > To: Harold Hunt
> > Cc: cygx
> > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> >
> >
> > No you haven't asked, but no.  Only one card that gets its
> > address from the
> > DHCP server on my network.  (Also a linux box)
> >
> > Good question though.. I am assuming you thought perhaps I was tryin to
> > access the wrong network?
> >     - Matt
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Harold Hunt" 
> > To: "Matthew Bradford" 
> > Cc: "cygx" 
> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:18 PM
> > Subject: RE: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> >
> >
> > > Matt,
> > >
> > > Did we already ask if you have multiple network cards in your Windows
> > > machine, or any token ring cards?
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:11 PM
> > > > To: Alexander Gottwald
> > > > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Just that a new version of kdm is spawned and then eventually it
> > > > dies.  I am
> > > > assuming this is a timeout because it cannot connect to the X
> > > > server.  (see
> > > > my second message on this subject)  To sum up, I can run remote X
> > programs
> > > > when using SSH -X, however if I telnet in and set the DISPLAY
variable
> > it
> > > > refuses the connection no matter what.
> > > >
> > > >     - Matt
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Alexander Gottwald"
> > 
> > > > To: "Matthew Bradford" 
> > > > Cc: 
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:43 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > start X on my winXP box I see that kdm starts and then it
> > times out
> > > > > > eventually.  I can connect to this server with another
> > Linux box via
> > > > XDMCP
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you mean with "times out"?
> > > > >
> > > > > bye
> > > > >     ago
> > > > > --
> > > > >  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
> > > > >  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
> > > > >  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017
> > > > >  4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4
> > > >
> >


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr 12 17:14:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 17:14:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: <013201c1e265$da54cf50$0a00a8c0@henry>
Message-ID: 

Matt,

Do you own a commercial X-server product, such as Exceed or X-Win32?

Do you have firewall software installed on your computer?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 5:06 PM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygx
> Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
>
>
> Harold,
>
> First, thank you very much for your time and attention.  Now onto the
> results of your last email:
>
> I've tried that before, but I tried it again just to be sure...
> and still no
> go.
>
> did you get my previous email talking about the connection
> refused issue?  I
> think this is related.  The only way I can get any remote X app to run is
> when I tunnel it through SSH.  Setting the export variable doesn't work.
> (even when i run xhost + and/or pass the -ac option to the X
> server)  It is
> acting as if access control is on still.
>
> Any ideas on how to fix that?  I'll put ya money on it that is
> the issue.  I
> just have no idea how to fix it.
>
>     - Matt
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harold Hunt" 
> To: "Matthew Bradford" 
> Cc: "cygx" 
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 4:28 PM
> Subject: RE: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
>
>
> > Matt,
> >
> > > No you haven't asked, but no.
> >
> > Good.
> >
> > > Good question though.. I am assuming you thought perhaps I
> was tryin to
> > > access the wrong network?
> >
> > Not quite.  The Cygwin folks (esp. Alexander Gottwald) have been working
> for
> > some time to make sure that cygwin1.dll is able to return correct
> > information on the available network interfaces.  The problem situations
> > have been when a machine has more than one network card, or a token ring
> > network card.  You don't have either so this isn't a problem.
> >
> > > Only one card that gets its address from the
> > > DHCP server on my network.  (Also a linux box)
> >
> > Hmm... perhaps you should try using the -from parameter with the IP
> address
> > of the Windows machine that you are using Cygwin/XFree86 on.  I suspect
> that
> > there may be a problem with Windows reporting a certain
> hostname that your
> > Linux box can't find an IP address for.  Here's  an example
> command line:
> >
> > XWin -query linux_ip_address -from windows_ip_address
> >
> > Let me know,
> >
> > Harold
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 4:06 PM
> > > To: Harold Hunt
> > > Cc: cygx
> > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > >
> > >
> > > No you haven't asked, but no.  Only one card that gets its
> > > address from the
> > > DHCP server on my network.  (Also a linux box)
> > >
> > > Good question though.. I am assuming you thought perhaps I
> was tryin to
> > > access the wrong network?
> > >     - Matt
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Harold Hunt" 
> > > To: "Matthew Bradford" 
> > > Cc: "cygx" 
> > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:18 PM
> > > Subject: RE: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > >
> > >
> > > > Matt,
> > > >
> > > > Did we already ask if you have multiple network cards in
> your Windows
> > > > machine, or any token ring cards?
> > > >
> > > > Harold
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of
> Matthew Bradford
> > > > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:11 PM
> > > > > To: Alexander Gottwald
> > > > > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Just that a new version of kdm is spawned and then eventually it
> > > > > dies.  I am
> > > > > assuming this is a timeout because it cannot connect to the X
> > > > > server.  (see
> > > > > my second message on this subject)  To sum up, I can run remote X
> > > programs
> > > > > when using SSH -X, however if I telnet in and set the DISPLAY
> variable
> > > it
> > > > > refuses the connection no matter what.
> > > > >
> > > > >     - Matt
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Alexander Gottwald"
> > > 
> > > > > To: "Matthew Bradford" 
> > > > > Cc: 
> > > > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:43 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > start X on my winXP box I see that kdm starts and then it
> > > times out
> > > > > > > eventually.  I can connect to this server with another
> > > Linux box via
> > > > > XDMCP
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What do you mean with "times out"?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > bye
> > > > > >     ago
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
> > > > > >  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
> > > > > >  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017
> > > > > >  4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4
> > > > >
> > >
>


From iburrell@znark.com  Fri Apr 12 19:08:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 19:08:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
References:  <013201c1e265$da54cf50$0a00a8c0@henry>
Message-ID: <3CB792FD.8050800@znark.com>

Matthew Bradford wrote:
> 
> First, thank you very much for your time and attention.  Now onto the
> results of your last email:
> 
> I've tried that before, but I tried it again just to be sure... and still no
> go.
> 
> did you get my previous email talking about the connection refused issue?  I
> think this is related.  The only way I can get any remote X app to run is
> when I tunnel it through SSH.  Setting the export variable doesn't work.
> (even when i run xhost + and/or pass the -ac option to the X server)  It is
> acting as if access control is on still.
> 
> Any ideas on how to fix that?  I'll put ya money on it that is the issue.  I
> just have no idea how to fix it.
> 

Also, check if you have any .Xauthority files. Try moving the existing 
ones are regenerating them. If you are running an X server, "xauth 
generate " connects to the server and generates new cookies. You 
can copy the resulting .Xauthority file to Red Hat 7.2 machine.

One thing to try is turn on debugging in the XDMCP server. I don't know 
how this is done with kdm. xdm has a -debug flag.

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From flip@mrflip.com  Fri Apr 12 21:30:00 2002
From: flip@mrflip.com (Philip Flip Kromer)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 21:30:00 -0000
Subject: Clipboard inspector in X?
Message-ID: <3CB7B0EB.2080204@mrflip.com>

Hello,

I am trying to debug an issue with cutting and pasting between 
XFree86/Cygwin and eXceed.  I have the latest xwinclip from
   http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/
   ftp://ftp.sunsite.utk.edu/pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/xwinclip/

I am sure there must be an X equivalent of the Windows Clipboard Viewer 
(C:\WINDOWS\system32\clipbrd.exe): something that will sit and poll the 
x-windows clipboard(s) and show the current contents.

Unless I am missing the boat, this doesn't seem to be the purpose of 
either xcutsel or xclipboard.  I built xwinclip with debug information on 
but wanted even yet still more verbosity, and preferably something that is 
pure X.

So: Can you point me to a utility that will continuously poll the X 
PRIMARY clipboard, reflecting and displaying the current state?

Thanks!

flip




From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr 12 22:04:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 22:04:00 -0000
Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
In-Reply-To: <001301c1e228$a2121db0$2153b80a@gooshy>
Message-ID: 

I'm submitting a bug report to KDE to gather more information.

I can reproduce this bug when I put my graphics card into 32 bit color mode,
but I need to know if any user out there with a graphics card capable of 24
bit color mode has this problem when they are in 24 bit color mode.

Please respond ASAP if you can tell me whether or not 24 bit color produces
the same problem of no icons in KDE 3.

Thanks,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Scott Alexander
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:48 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: kde 3.0 no icons
>
>
> Thanks a lot this solved my problem also.
>
> Cheers for the help
> Scott Alexander.
>
>
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Joan Bertran [mailto:jbertran@cirsa.com]
>  > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 8:40 AM
>  > To: huntharo@msu.edu
>  > Subject: RE: kde 3.0 no icons
>  >
>  >
>  >   I have the same problem and i have found a workaround,
>  > just reducing the M$-windows color depth from 32 bit to 15 bits
>  > per pixel (it's the only high-color options on my driver) solves this
>  > and all icons are displayed fine.
>  >
>  >               Joan Bertran.
>  >
>  >
>
>


From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Sat Apr 13 03:52:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 03:52:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: <00e601c1e24d$5eaeaeb0$0a00a8c0@henry>
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Matthew Bradford wrote:

> Just that a new version of kdm is spawned and then eventually it dies.  I am
> assuming this is a timeout because it cannot connect to the X server.  

You you use XDMCP from Linux with Xnest?

What dose the kdm errorlog state? Is there any session trace in 
~/.xsession-errors? Can you trace the .xinitrc or .xsession by adding 
a "set -x" at the beginning and check the output in ~/.xsession-errors


> To sum up, I can run remote X programs
> when using SSH -X, however if I telnet in and set the DISPLAY variable it
> refuses the connection no matter what.

Thats normal. See man Xsecurity

bye
    ago
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From tim.huckvale@bcs.org.uk  Sat Apr 13 05:34:00 2002
From: tim.huckvale@bcs.org.uk (Tim Huckvale)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 05:34:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <009101c1e25c$e559a2d0$0100a8c0@gateway>
Message-ID: <000301c1e2e7$840c35c0$0200a8c0@local>

Sorry, I simplified a bit. I do telnet for simple tasks, but I'm playing
around with Linux for other things as well. This is a home network, and we
were using Wingate on a Windows 95 machine as internet gateway. The
all-family frustration this was generating became my excuse to build a Linux
box over Christmas and revisit my unix-hacking roots. I went for KDE because
I'm getting to old to re-learn all that vi finger-work. Now if I could just
get DNS to work properly... - but that's another mailing list.

Tim


> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jim George
> Sent: Friday, 12 April 2002 21:02
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
>
>
> If you SuSE Linux box is only acting as a fileserver, gateway
> why run X on
> it?  If you make it run at runlevel 3 then it only needs the
> command prompt
> and you won't need xfree86 under cygwin to access it.
>
> Indeed you don't anyway, simply ssh or telnet to Linux box.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Huckvale" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:31 AM
> Subject: RE: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
>
>
> I'm interested in a minimal cygwin / xfree86 package since I'm only
> using it to control my SuSE Linux fileserver and internet
> gateway which
> sits in a corner with no keyboard or monitor. I connect via
> xdm and run
> KDE desktop. The total cygwin and xfree86 installation takes up 100
> Mbyte disk space, which seems excessive.
> ...


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sat Apr 13 08:20:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 08:20:00 -0000
Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

I submitted a bug report to KDE for this:

http://bugs.kde.org/db/40/40875.html

Hopefully we'll be able to figure out what is going on.

Harold


From warren-postma@rogers.com  Sat Apr 13 19:48:00 2002
From: warren-postma@rogers.com (Warren Postma)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 19:48:00 -0000
Subject: The usual 'could not open default font 'fixed''.
Message-ID: <003601c1e35e$cb37fe80$312a2a0a@CR551617A>

I read the cygwin-xfree installation and FAQ, and read the entry about the
Could Not Open Default Font, then I re-ran setup.exe to change the default
file type to Unix, then I reinstalled the 100dpi fonts.  Then I thought,
maybe a setting in the Cygwin.DLL is still loaded and I need to reboot.  I
rebooted, and still no luck.

So, what do you do if the FAQ doesn't help you and startx still gives the
default font error? Should I boot into linux to unpack the fonts?  This
seems pretty weird.

Warren



From gcruzicka@earthlink.net  Sun Apr 14 10:52:00 2002
From: gcruzicka@earthlink.net (Gene C. Ruzicka)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 10:52:00 -0000
Subject: Problems installing cygwin-xfree86 on a Dell WIN2K box
References:  <002601c1e22c$c537ee60$2204b4d8@default>
Message-ID: <00b601c1e3de$9df74f40$802bf4d8@HUNG>

>
>     Thanks for your response. I was, in fact, following those directions
> verbatim, on that very web page, when the Xinstall.sh script exited with
an
> error meassage saying that the extract command wasn't working properly &
> admonishing me to fix that & try again. I had just downloaded the entire
> XFree86 package Wednesday A.M. from ftp.nas.nasa.gov using the ftp command
> from the cygwin bash shell command line ("mget *" from the
> .../xfree/4.2.0/binaries directory). This download included the extract
> command which I believe Xinstall.sh tried to use to unpack everything
(after
> I copied it to the /bin directory from the bash command line). I guess my
> question is "what do I need to do to 'fix' the extract command & try
again"
> ? Would the regular tar command downloaded earlier & included w/ the basic
> cygwin package work ? Thanks in advance.
>

i had problems with the xfree-86 i downloaded from  ftp.nas.nasa.gov .
it seemed that the output from Xinstall, complained about packages that
should have been downloaded but weren't. and i think i posted a message
about that to this mailing list about problems at that ftp site.  everything
worked fine when i shfited to another ftp site, i believe it was the one at
uiuc.
 i'm not sure if this is applicable to your problem, though.







From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Sun Apr 14 14:41:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 14:41:00 -0000
Subject: The usual 'could not open default font 'fixed''.
In-Reply-To: <003601c1e35e$cb37fe80$312a2a0a@CR551617A>
Message-ID: 

On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Warren Postma wrote:

> then I reinstalled the 100dpi fonts.  

Sure that you need the 100dpi fonts? Fixed is located in the misc directory
and may be in an other package than the 100dpi fonts.

bye
    ago
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From warren-postma@rogers.com  Sun Apr 14 16:19:00 2002
From: warren-postma@rogers.com (Warren Postma)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 16:19:00 -0000
Subject: Suggested FAQ Update: 6.5. Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'
Message-ID: <001301c1e40a$d8998470$312a2a0a@CR551617A>

The FAQ listing for section 6.5. Fatal server error: could not open default
font 'fixed'
does not work. For one thing, the suggested remedy does NOT change the
mounting of the /usr directory.

A more direct fix would be to update the Xinstall.sh to do the following:

1. Check mount output for either / or /usr mounted as textmode.

2. Unmount the offending partition:
    umount /usr
    umount /
3. Remount root or usr :
    mount --binary c:/cygwin           /
    mount --binary c:/cygwin/usr     /usr


Warren






From cgf@redhat.com  Sun Apr 14 16:29:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 16:29:00 -0000
Subject: Suggested FAQ Update: 6.5. Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'
In-Reply-To: <001301c1e40a$d8998470$312a2a0a@CR551617A>
References: <001301c1e40a$d8998470$312a2a0a@CR551617A>
Message-ID: <20020414232943.GB31296@redhat.com>

On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 07:19:37PM -0400, Warren Postma wrote:
>The FAQ listing for section 6.5. Fatal server error: could not open default
>font 'fixed'
>does not work. For one thing, the suggested remedy does NOT change the
>mounting of the /usr directory.
>
>A more direct fix would be to update the Xinstall.sh to do the following:
>
>1. Check mount output for either / or /usr mounted as textmode.
>
>2. Unmount the offending partition:
>    umount /usr
>    umount /
>3. Remount root or usr :
>    mount --binary c:/cygwin           /
>    mount --binary c:/cygwin/usr     /usr

If it is just a problem with the font directory then mounting just the
font directory would be less intrusive.

Less intrusive still might be to build xfs/XFree86 with /usr/lib/binmode.o .

This will force all reads to be in binmode automatically.

cgf


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Apr 14 19:12:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 19:12:00 -0000
Subject: The usual 'could not open default font 'fixed''.
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Yeah, the default is 75 dpi fonts (and misc, etc.) unless you specifically
use the -dpi parameter.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Alexander Gottwald
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 5:52 AM
> To: Warren Postma
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: The usual 'could not open default font 'fixed''.
>
>
> On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Warren Postma wrote:
>
> > then I reinstalled the 100dpi fonts.
>
> Sure that you need the 100dpi fonts? Fixed is located in the misc
> directory
> and may be in an other package than the 100dpi fonts.
>
> bye
>     ago
> --
>  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
>  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
>  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017
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>


From mbradford@bahaigear.com  Sun Apr 14 20:07:00 2002
From: mbradford@bahaigear.com (Matthew Bradford)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 20:07:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: <3CB792FD.8050800@znark.com>
References:  <013201c1e265$da54cf50$0a00a8c0@henry> <3CB792FD.8050800@znark.com>
Message-ID: <200204142304.20670.mbradford@bahaigear.com>

I have finally solved the problem.  However, this raises another question...

The solution by the way was to add :1 to the Xwin.exe.  Don't know why it 
worked, but it worked like a charm.  So then the question is... why? :-P

	- Matt


On Friday 12 April 2002 10:07 pm, Ian Burrell wrote:
> Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > First, thank you very much for your time and attention.  Now onto the
> > results of your last email:
> >
> > I've tried that before, but I tried it again just to be sure... and still
> > no go.
> >
> > did you get my previous email talking about the connection refused issue?
> >  I think this is related.  The only way I can get any remote X app to run
> > is when I tunnel it through SSH.  Setting the export variable doesn't
> > work. (even when i run xhost + and/or pass the -ac option to the X
> > server)  It is acting as if access control is on still.
> >
> > Any ideas on how to fix that?  I'll put ya money on it that is the issue.
> >  I just have no idea how to fix it.
>
> Also, check if you have any .Xauthority files. Try moving the existing
> ones are regenerating them. If you are running an X server, "xauth
> generate " connects to the server and generates new cookies. You
> can copy the resulting .Xauthority file to Red Hat 7.2 machine.
>
> One thing to try is turn on debugging in the XDMCP server. I don't know
> how this is done with kdm. xdm has a -debug flag.
>
>   - Ian


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Apr 14 21:19:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:19:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: <200204142304.20670.mbradford@bahaigear.com>
Message-ID: 

Matt,

Perhaps some process already owns port 6000 on your Windows machine before
you launch XWin.  Adding :1 changes the screen number to 1 (from 0) which
changes the port number to, I believe, 6001.

You can find out what ports are open by running 'netstat -a' in a 'cmd' box
on Windows XP (if that has the command prompt).

One thing that could cause port 6000 to be taken would be if you have a
commercial X Server installed.  On April 12 I asked if you had any
commercial X Servers installed:
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00273.html

You never answered.  So, do you have any commercial X Servers installed?

It makes perfect sense that port 6000 is already owned, since you can run
remote clients via ssh forwarding (which doesn't use port 6000), but you
can't run remote clients via telnet (which does use port 6000).

Let me know what you find,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:04 PM
> To: Ian Burrell
> Cc: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
>
>
> I have finally solved the problem.  However, this raises another
> question...
>
> The solution by the way was to add :1 to the Xwin.exe.  Don't know why it
> worked, but it worked like a charm.  So then the question is... why? :-P
>
> 	- Matt
>
>
> On Friday 12 April 2002 10:07 pm, Ian Burrell wrote:
> > Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > > First, thank you very much for your time and attention.  Now onto the
> > > results of your last email:
> > >
> > > I've tried that before, but I tried it again just to be
> sure... and still
> > > no go.
> > >
> > > did you get my previous email talking about the connection
> refused issue?
> > >  I think this is related.  The only way I can get any remote
> X app to run
> > > is when I tunnel it through SSH.  Setting the export variable doesn't
> > > work. (even when i run xhost + and/or pass the -ac option to the X
> > > server)  It is acting as if access control is on still.
> > >
> > > Any ideas on how to fix that?  I'll put ya money on it that
> is the issue.
> > >  I just have no idea how to fix it.
> >
> > Also, check if you have any .Xauthority files. Try moving the existing
> > ones are regenerating them. If you are running an X server, "xauth
> > generate " connects to the server and generates new cookies. You
> > can copy the resulting .Xauthority file to Red Hat 7.2 machine.
> >
> > One thing to try is turn on debugging in the XDMCP server. I don't know
> > how this is done with kdm. xdm has a -debug flag.
> >
> >   - Ian
>


From mbradford@bahaigear.com  Sun Apr 14 22:21:00 2002
From: mbradford@bahaigear.com (Matthew Bradford)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 22:21:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <200204150118.03126.mbradford@bahaigear.com>

Harold,
	Sorry for not responding to the commercial X server question.  The answer to 
that one is no as well.  I was going to try and get exceed, but then saw this 
and I couldn't pass up free.  (Also, I like the codebase in XFree much better 
than any commercial X server I've seen for win32)  I knew that :1 changed the 
screen to 1 rather than 0, and after performing the netstat -a.. sure enough 
there is something listening on port 6000.  

	My best guess is that annoying pc-anywhere thing built into XP.  I don't know 
though.  I feel much better now that everything works though. :-)

Thank you very much for your help.
	- Matt


On Monday 15 April 2002 12:18 am, Harold Hunt wrote:
> Matt,
>
> Perhaps some process already owns port 6000 on your Windows machine before
> you launch XWin.  Adding :1 changes the screen number to 1 (from 0) which
> changes the port number to, I believe, 6001.
>
> You can find out what ports are open by running 'netstat -a' in a 'cmd' box
> on Windows XP (if that has the command prompt).
>
> One thing that could cause port 6000 to be taken would be if you have a
> commercial X Server installed.  On April 12 I asked if you had any
> commercial X Servers installed:
> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00273.html
>
> You never answered.  So, do you have any commercial X Servers installed?
>
> It makes perfect sense that port 6000 is already owned, since you can run
> remote clients via ssh forwarding (which doesn't use port 6000), but you
> can't run remote clients via telnet (which does use port 6000).
>
> Let me know what you find,
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:04 PM
> > To: Ian Burrell
> > Cc: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> >
> >
> > I have finally solved the problem.  However, this raises another
> > question...
> >
> > The solution by the way was to add :1 to the Xwin.exe.  Don't know why it
> > worked, but it worked like a charm.  So then the question is... why? :-P
> >
> > 	- Matt
> >
> > On Friday 12 April 2002 10:07 pm, Ian Burrell wrote:
> > > Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > > > First, thank you very much for your time and attention.  Now onto the
> > > > results of your last email:
> > > >
> > > > I've tried that before, but I tried it again just to be
> >
> > sure... and still
> >
> > > > no go.
> > > >
> > > > did you get my previous email talking about the connection
> >
> > refused issue?
> >
> > > >  I think this is related.  The only way I can get any remote
> >
> > X app to run
> >
> > > > is when I tunnel it through SSH.  Setting the export variable doesn't
> > > > work. (even when i run xhost + and/or pass the -ac option to the X
> > > > server)  It is acting as if access control is on still.
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas on how to fix that?  I'll put ya money on it that
> >
> > is the issue.
> >
> > > >  I just have no idea how to fix it.
> > >
> > > Also, check if you have any .Xauthority files. Try moving the existing
> > > ones are regenerating them. If you are running an X server, "xauth
> > > generate " connects to the server and generates new cookies. You
> > > can copy the resulting .Xauthority file to Red Hat 7.2 machine.
> > >
> > > One thing to try is turn on debugging in the XDMCP server. I don't know
> > > how this is done with kdm. xdm has a -debug flag.
> > >
> > >   - Ian


From perryh@pluto.rain.com  Mon Apr 15 00:11:00 2002
From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 00:11:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
Message-ID: <10204150655.AA14507@pluto.rain.com>

OK, I've installed Cygwin and XFree86 on a Windows 95 system.  When
I try to run C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe, I get an error box:

    Error Starting Program

              A required .DLL file, CYGWIN1.DLL, was not found.

That file does exist, in C:\cygwin\bin.  Rebooting does not help.
What part of the installation process did I miss?

The only things I found in the FAQ that seem even remotely related are
1.8 and 2.3.  They mention a startxwin.bat, which I can't find on my
system.  There's also a mention of a HOW-TO, but the only such file I
can find is HOW-TO-CONTRIBUTE which is a little beyond where I've been
able to get to so far :)


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 15 04:27:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 04:27:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: <200204150118.03126.mbradford@bahaigear.com>
Message-ID: 

Matt,

It's good to know that something is listening on port 6000; however, I don't
think that it is Windows XP's  Remote Assistance feature.  The only port
number I can find mentioned with documents on that feature is 3389.
Besides, if Microsoft did something so stupid as to set the default port
number the same as the well-known X Window System port number then we would
have surely heard about it by now.  Not to mention the fact that all of our
Windows XP users would be having the same problem that you are having.

I'd be interested to know what program on your computer is actually taking
port 6000, for future reference.

Thanks,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:18 AM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
>
>
> Harold,
> 	Sorry for not responding to the commercial X server
> question.  The answer to
> that one is no as well.  I was going to try and get exceed, but
> then saw this
> and I couldn't pass up free.  (Also, I like the codebase in XFree
> much better
> than any commercial X server I've seen for win32)  I knew that :1
> changed the
> screen to 1 rather than 0, and after performing the netstat -a..
> sure enough
> there is something listening on port 6000.
>
> 	My best guess is that annoying pc-anywhere thing built into
> XP.  I don't know
> though.  I feel much better now that everything works though. :-)
>
> Thank you very much for your help.
> 	- Matt
>
>
> On Monday 15 April 2002 12:18 am, Harold Hunt wrote:
> > Matt,
> >
> > Perhaps some process already owns port 6000 on your Windows
> machine before
> > you launch XWin.  Adding :1 changes the screen number to 1
> (from 0) which
> > changes the port number to, I believe, 6001.
> >
> > You can find out what ports are open by running 'netstat -a' in
> a 'cmd' box
> > on Windows XP (if that has the command prompt).
> >
> > One thing that could cause port 6000 to be taken would be if you have a
> > commercial X Server installed.  On April 12 I asked if you had any
> > commercial X Servers installed:
> > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00273.html
> >
> > You never answered.  So, do you have any commercial X Servers installed?
> >
> > It makes perfect sense that port 6000 is already owned, since
> you can run
> > remote clients via ssh forwarding (which doesn't use port 6000), but you
> > can't run remote clients via telnet (which does use port 6000).
> >
> > Let me know what you find,
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:04 PM
> > > To: Ian Burrell
> > > Cc: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > >
> > >
> > > I have finally solved the problem.  However, this raises another
> > > question...
> > >
> > > The solution by the way was to add :1 to the Xwin.exe.  Don't
> know why it
> > > worked, but it worked like a charm.  So then the question
> is... why? :-P
> > >
> > > 	- Matt
> > >
> > > On Friday 12 April 2002 10:07 pm, Ian Burrell wrote:
> > > > Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > > > > First, thank you very much for your time and attention.
> Now onto the
> > > > > results of your last email:
> > > > >
> > > > > I've tried that before, but I tried it again just to be
> > >
> > > sure... and still
> > >
> > > > > no go.
> > > > >
> > > > > did you get my previous email talking about the connection
> > >
> > > refused issue?
> > >
> > > > >  I think this is related.  The only way I can get any remote
> > >
> > > X app to run
> > >
> > > > > is when I tunnel it through SSH.  Setting the export
> variable doesn't
> > > > > work. (even when i run xhost + and/or pass the -ac option to the X
> > > > > server)  It is acting as if access control is on still.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any ideas on how to fix that?  I'll put ya money on it that
> > >
> > > is the issue.
> > >
> > > > >  I just have no idea how to fix it.
> > > >
> > > > Also, check if you have any .Xauthority files. Try moving
> the existing
> > > > ones are regenerating them. If you are running an X server, "xauth
> > > > generate " connects to the server and generates new
> cookies. You
> > > > can copy the resulting .Xauthority file to Red Hat 7.2 machine.
> > > >
> > > > One thing to try is turn on debugging in the XDMCP server.
> I don't know
> > > > how this is done with kdm. xdm has a -debug flag.
> > > >
> > > >   - Ian
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 15 04:29:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 04:29:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
In-Reply-To: <10204150655.AA14507@pluto.rain.com>
Message-ID: 

Perry,

You're reading the ancient FAQ.  You need the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide
and the newer FAQ located at:

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/

To better design our site, can I ask how you happened to completely miss the
documentation page while still finding your way to the old FAQ?

Thanks,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Perry Hutchison
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 2:56 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: How do I run it?
>
>
> OK, I've installed Cygwin and XFree86 on a Windows 95 system.  When
> I try to run C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe, I get an error box:
>
>     Error Starting Program
>
>               A required .DLL file, CYGWIN1.DLL, was not found.
>
> That file does exist, in C:\cygwin\bin.  Rebooting does not help.
> What part of the installation process did I miss?
>
> The only things I found in the FAQ that seem even remotely related are
> 1.8 and 2.3.  They mention a startxwin.bat, which I can't find on my
> system.  There's also a mention of a HOW-TO, but the only such file I
> can find is HOW-TO-CONTRIBUTE which is a little beyond where I've been
> able to get to so far :)
>


From michaelr@sedata.com  Mon Apr 15 08:27:00 2002
From: michaelr@sedata.com (Michael Reaser)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 08:27:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86 4.2.0 under Cygwin on Win98 w/ i810 won't display CDE fro
	m HPUX
Message-ID: <1E5BB4E16573714B9A0CB774B2AB0CC6164691@mailserver.sedata.com>


I've got a Dell PC running Win98 on which I've installed Cygwin from 
 followed by XFree86 from 
(specifically, archive.progeny.com, and for X I grabbed the binaries
from /cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0).  I only brought down the binaries,
as I *really* didn't want to compile Linux or X myself to sit on top of
Win98 (no, I can't just take the PCs to Linux, they have to stay on some
flavor of Windoze) nor any of the X pieces, since someone else had 
already "invented the wheel".

Unfortunately, the PC has an i810, so XWin is giving me fits.  It works
fine from another PC without the Intel 810 chipset, and works right 
if I just invoke it from the Bash shell using 

XWin -screen 0 1024 768 

I get a standard X desktop, can telnet to my "main" Unix system (a 9000
running HP-UX 11.11), and throw clients back to the server running on 
the PC.

However, if I invoke XWin using

XWin -query aa.bb.cc.dd -fp tcp/aa.bb.cc.dd:7000 

(where aa.bb.cc.dd is the IP address of my HP 9000 system)

to try to get HP-UX to throw a CDE login screen back at me via xdm, 
XWin runs, it changes to a gray stippled screen, and there I sit.  No
change to the black screen that indicates I've connected to the 9000,
no login screen from the HP, no nothing.  Just a big ol' hang that will
eventually time out.

Contents of the "bad" /tmp/XWin.log:

ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000017
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per
pixel
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l 0 b
715 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 2036
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 16
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning

Fatal server error:
XDMCP fatal error: Session failed Session 6 failed for display 0.0.0.0:0:
Cannot open display


On another Dell PC, with the only difference (that I can discover) 
being that it has an 82810-DC100 Graphics controller, XWin runs and 
lets the HP show first its black background, followed by the CDE 
login screen, with no complaint.  I can then login to the HPUX system 
and "go to town", so to speak.

Contents of the "good" /tmp/XWin.log:

ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 800 h 600
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000017
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits per
pixel
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 572 800
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 572 800
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 794 h 547 r 794 l 0 b
547 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 2384
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winCloseScreenShadowDDNL () - Freeing screen resources


I've searched the XFree86 archives, and see a lot of references to getting 
a copy of agpgart.o and compiling it into your kernel to get an i810 to
play nicely.  Well, (a) I really don't want to have to re-compile Cygwin
for Win98 if someone else already has, (b) I have no idea where to
get a copy of agpgart.o which would work in that instance, anyway, and 
(c) since the HP can communicate to XFree86 just fine in "normal"
mode, I can't believe this is because of a driver issue.

Can anyone give me any pointers on what I should do to get XFree86
on an i810 chipset to give me an xdm-based login from another system?
And/or tell me what further information I should have included in my
message that y'all expect?

Thanks,

Mike Reaser
Southeastern Data Cooperative
Tucker, GA



From n.escuder@alineanet.com  Mon Apr 15 09:54:00 2002
From: n.escuder@alineanet.com (Escuder Nicolas)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:54:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
References: 
Message-ID: <001c01c1e49c$dceb8c20$6745a8c0@ALINEA.FR>

The port 3389 is the port for RDP connection
not for remote assistance ...
and on mine XP the port 6000 is not listening
I have Assistance enable
and RDP enable :o)
see you :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: "Matthew Bradford" 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:27 PM
Subject: RE: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2


> Matt,
>
> It's good to know that something is listening on port 6000; however, I
don't
> think that it is Windows XP's  Remote Assistance feature.  The only port
> number I can find mentioned with documents on that feature is 3389.
> Besides, if Microsoft did something so stupid as to set the default port
> number the same as the well-known X Window System port number then we
would
> have surely heard about it by now.  Not to mention the fact that all of
our
> Windows XP users would be having the same problem that you are having.
>
> I'd be interested to know what program on your computer is actually taking
> port 6000, for future reference.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:18 AM
> > To: Harold Hunt
> > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> >
> >
> > Harold,
> > Sorry for not responding to the commercial X server
> > question.  The answer to
> > that one is no as well.  I was going to try and get exceed, but
> > then saw this
> > and I couldn't pass up free.  (Also, I like the codebase in XFree
> > much better
> > than any commercial X server I've seen for win32)  I knew that :1
> > changed the
> > screen to 1 rather than 0, and after performing the netstat -a..
> > sure enough
> > there is something listening on port 6000.
> >
> > My best guess is that annoying pc-anywhere thing built into
> > XP.  I don't know
> > though.  I feel much better now that everything works though. :-)
> >
> > Thank you very much for your help.
> > - Matt
> >
> >
> > On Monday 15 April 2002 12:18 am, Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > Matt,
> > >
> > > Perhaps some process already owns port 6000 on your Windows
> > machine before
> > > you launch XWin.  Adding :1 changes the screen number to 1
> > (from 0) which
> > > changes the port number to, I believe, 6001.
> > >
> > > You can find out what ports are open by running 'netstat -a' in
> > a 'cmd' box
> > > on Windows XP (if that has the command prompt).
> > >
> > > One thing that could cause port 6000 to be taken would be if you have
a
> > > commercial X Server installed.  On April 12 I asked if you had any
> > > commercial X Servers installed:
> > > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00273.html
> > >
> > > You never answered.  So, do you have any commercial X Servers
installed?
> > >
> > > It makes perfect sense that port 6000 is already owned, since
> > you can run
> > > remote clients via ssh forwarding (which doesn't use port 6000), but
you
> > > can't run remote clients via telnet (which does use port 6000).
> > >
> > > Let me know what you find,
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:04 PM
> > > > To: Ian Burrell
> > > > Cc: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have finally solved the problem.  However, this raises another
> > > > question...
> > > >
> > > > The solution by the way was to add :1 to the Xwin.exe.  Don't
> > know why it
> > > > worked, but it worked like a charm.  So then the question
> > is... why? :-P
> > > >
> > > > - Matt
> > > >
> > > > On Friday 12 April 2002 10:07 pm, Ian Burrell wrote:
> > > > > Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > > > > > First, thank you very much for your time and attention.
> > Now onto the
> > > > > > results of your last email:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've tried that before, but I tried it again just to be
> > > >
> > > > sure... and still
> > > >
> > > > > > no go.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > did you get my previous email talking about the connection
> > > >
> > > > refused issue?
> > > >
> > > > > >  I think this is related.  The only way I can get any remote
> > > >
> > > > X app to run
> > > >
> > > > > > is when I tunnel it through SSH.  Setting the export
> > variable doesn't
> > > > > > work. (even when i run xhost + and/or pass the -ac option to the
X
> > > > > > server)  It is acting as if access control is on still.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any ideas on how to fix that?  I'll put ya money on it that
> > > >
> > > > is the issue.
> > > >
> > > > > >  I just have no idea how to fix it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, check if you have any .Xauthority files. Try moving
> > the existing
> > > > > ones are regenerating them. If you are running an X server, "xauth
> > > > > generate " connects to the server and generates new
> > cookies. You
> > > > > can copy the resulting .Xauthority file to Red Hat 7.2 machine.
> > > > >
> > > > > One thing to try is turn on debugging in the XDMCP server.
> > I don't know
> > > > > how this is done with kdm. xdm has a -debug flag.
> > > > >
> > > > >   - Ian
> >


From mbradford@bahaigear.com  Mon Apr 15 11:06:00 2002
From: mbradford@bahaigear.com (Matthew Bradford)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:06:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86 4.2.0 under Cygwin on Win98 w/ i810 won't display CDE fro m HPUX
In-Reply-To: <1E5BB4E16573714B9A0CB774B2AB0CC6164691@mailserver.sedata.com>
References: <1E5BB4E16573714B9A0CB774B2AB0CC6164691@mailserver.sedata.com>
Message-ID: <200204151403.06635.mbradford@bahaigear.com>

Mike,
	Try adding -from your_ip_address in your XWin.exe command.  Windows may be 
reporting a hostname that your sun box doesn't know how to translate back to 
an IP.  And 0.0.0.0 in that error log seems to go well with that.  So then 
the full command you'd want to try would be:

XWin -query aa.bb.cc.dd -fp tcp/aa.bb.cc.dd:7000 -from aa.bb.cc.dd

Hope that works for you.
	- Matt

On Monday 15 April 2002 11:26 am, Michael Reaser wrote:
> I've got a Dell PC running Win98 on which I've installed Cygwin from
>  followed by XFree86 from 
> (specifically, archive.progeny.com, and for X I grabbed the binaries
> from /cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0).  I only brought down the binaries,
> as I *really* didn't want to compile Linux or X myself to sit on top of
> Win98 (no, I can't just take the PCs to Linux, they have to stay on some
> flavor of Windoze) nor any of the X pieces, since someone else had
> already "invented the wheel".
>
> Unfortunately, the PC has an i810, so XWin is giving me fits.  It works
> fine from another PC without the Intel 810 chipset, and works right
> if I just invoke it from the Bash shell using
>
> XWin -screen 0 1024 768
>
> I get a standard X desktop, can telnet to my "main" Unix system (a 9000
> running HP-UX 11.11), and throw clients back to the server running on
> the PC.
>
> However, if I invoke XWin using
>
> XWin -query aa.bb.cc.dd -fp tcp/aa.bb.cc.dd:7000
>
> (where aa.bb.cc.dd is the IP address of my HP 9000 system)
>
> to try to get HP-UX to throw a CDE login screen back at me via xdm,
> XWin runs, it changes to a gray stippled screen, and there I sit.  No
> change to the black screen that indicates I've connected to the 9000,
> no login screen from the HP, no nothing.  Just a big ol' hang that will
> eventually time out.
>
> Contents of the "bad" /tmp/XWin.log:
>
> ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
> winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
> _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000017
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits
> per pixel
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l 0 b
> 715 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 2036
> winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 16
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
>
> Fatal server error:
> XDMCP fatal error: Session failed Session 6 failed for display 0.0.0.0:0:
> Cannot open display
>
>
> On another Dell PC, with the only difference (that I can discover)
> being that it has an 82810-DC100 Graphics controller, XWin runs and
> lets the HP show first its black background, followed by the CDE
> login screen, with no complaint.  I can then login to the HPUX system
> and "go to town", so to speak.
>
> Contents of the "good" /tmp/XWin.log:
>
> ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
> winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 800 h 600
> _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000017
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits
> per pixel
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 572 800
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 572 800
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 794 h 547 r 794 l 0 b
> 547 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 2384
> winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winCloseScreenShadowDDNL () - Freeing screen resources
>
>
> I've searched the XFree86 archives, and see a lot of references to getting
> a copy of agpgart.o and compiling it into your kernel to get an i810 to
> play nicely.  Well, (a) I really don't want to have to re-compile Cygwin
> for Win98 if someone else already has, (b) I have no idea where to
> get a copy of agpgart.o which would work in that instance, anyway, and
> (c) since the HP can communicate to XFree86 just fine in "normal"
> mode, I can't believe this is because of a driver issue.
>
> Can anyone give me any pointers on what I should do to get XFree86
> on an i810 chipset to give me an xdm-based login from another system?
> And/or tell me what further information I should have included in my
> message that y'all expect?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Reaser
> Southeastern Data Cooperative
> Tucker, GA


From iburrell@znark.com  Mon Apr 15 11:19:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:19:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86 4.2.0 under Cygwin on Win98 w/ i810 won't display CDE
 fro	m HPUX
References: <1E5BB4E16573714B9A0CB774B2AB0CC6164691@mailserver.sedata.com>
Message-ID: <3CBB199E.8020305@znark.com>

Michael Reaser wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately, the PC has an i810, so XWin is giving me fits.  It works
> fine from another PC without the Intel 810 chipset, and works right 
> if I just invoke it from the Bash shell using 
> 

The chipset shouldn't matter one bit. XWin doesn't use the XFree86 video 
drivers.

> 
> I've searched the XFree86 archives, and see a lot of references to getting 
> a copy of agpgart.o and compiling it into your kernel to get an i810 to
> play nicely.  Well, (a) I really don't want to have to re-compile Cygwin
> for Win98 if someone else already has, (b) I have no idea where to
> get a copy of agpgart.o which would work in that instance, anyway, and 
> (c) since the HP can communicate to XFree86 just fine in "normal"
> mode, I can't believe this is because of a driver issue.
> 
> Can anyone give me any pointers on what I should do to get XFree86
> on an i810 chipset to give me an xdm-based login from another system?
> And/or tell me what further information I should have included in my
> message that y'all expect?
> 

The first thing to check is that the server works locally. The second 
thing to check is that you can connect from the remote machine without 
XDMCP.

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From S.Opitz@gmx.de  Mon Apr 15 11:20:00 2002
From: S.Opitz@gmx.de (Sven Opitz)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:20:00 -0000
Subject: 2 screens and XDMCP
Message-ID: 

Hi all,

I have a small problem with XFree 4.2:

I have two screens on my WinNT SP6a with a screen resolution of 2560x1024.
When I open via XDMCP a linux kde window, it opens at 1280x1024, that is 
absolutely ok, but when the mouse goes down and the hidden task bar comes 
up, the kde window is redrawn at 2560x1024 in the 1280x1024 window.
I even could live with that and be absolutely happy.

But the kde really gives me a 2560x1024 window, so that some windows are 
out of reach.

I use this line to start the connection:
XWin -query ipaddress

I tried XWin 0 1280 1024 -query ipaddress, but that didn't work at all

Thanx
Sven



From iburrell@znark.com  Mon Apr 15 11:20:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:20:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
References: <10204150655.AA14507@pluto.rain.com>
Message-ID: <3CBB19EE.7040802@znark.com>

Perry Hutchison wrote:
> OK, I've installed Cygwin and XFree86 on a Windows 95 system.  When
> I try to run C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe, I get an error box:
> 
>     Error Starting Program
> 
>               A required .DLL file, CYGWIN1.DLL, was not found.
> 
> That file does exist, in C:\cygwin\bin.  Rebooting does not help.
> What part of the installation process did I miss?
> 
> The only things I found in the FAQ that seem even remotely related are
> 1.8 and 2.3.  They mention a startxwin.bat, which I can't find on my
> system.  There's also a mention of a HOW-TO, but the only such file I
> can find is HOW-TO-CONTRIBUTE which is a little beyond where I've been
> able to get to so far :)
> 

Check your PATH. It needs to include c:\cygwin\bin. How are you trying 
to run XWin? From a bash shell? From the run box?

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From S.Opitz@gmx.de  Mon Apr 15 11:28:00 2002
From: S.Opitz@gmx.de (Sven Opitz)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:28:00 -0000
Subject: 2 screens and XDMCP
References: 
Message-ID: 

Sorry, found the answer:

Sven Opitz  wrote in news:a9f57u$jig$1@main.gmane.org:

> I tried XWin 0 1280 1024 -query ipaddress, but that didn't work at all

I changed this line to XWin -screen 0 1280 1024 -query ipaddress

Thanx anyway
Sven



From michaelr@sedata.com  Mon Apr 15 11:36:00 2002
From: michaelr@sedata.com (Michael Reaser)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:36:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86 4.2.0 under Cygwin on Win98 w/ i810 won't display CDE
	 fro m HPUX
Message-ID: <1E5BB4E16573714B9A0CB774B2AB0CC6164693@mailserver.sedata.com>


Thanks, Matt!

Adding "-from <>" on the unsociable PC's let them begin
"playing nicely on the playground" with my HP-UX system and CDE.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Mike Reaser
Southeastern Data Cooperative
Tucker, GA

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Bradford [mailto:mbradford@bahaigear.com]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 2:03 PM
To: Michael Reaser; 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
Subject: Re: XFree86 4.2.0 under Cygwin on Win98 w/ i810 won't display
CDE fro m HPUX


Mike,
	Try adding -from your_ip_address in your XWin.exe command.  Windows
may be 
reporting a hostname that your sun box doesn't know how to translate back to

an IP.  And 0.0.0.0 in that error log seems to go well with that.  So then 
the full command you'd want to try would be:

XWin -query aa.bb.cc.dd -fp tcp/aa.bb.cc.dd:7000 -from aa.bb.cc.dd

Hope that works for you.
	- Matt

On Monday 15 April 2002 11:26 am, Michael Reaser wrote:
> I've got a Dell PC running Win98 on which I've installed Cygwin from
>  followed by XFree86 from 
> (specifically, archive.progeny.com, and for X I grabbed the binaries
> from /cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0).  I only brought down the binaries,
> as I *really* didn't want to compile Linux or X myself to sit on top of
> Win98 (no, I can't just take the PCs to Linux, they have to stay on some
> flavor of Windoze) nor any of the X pieces, since someone else had
> already "invented the wheel".
>
> Unfortunately, the PC has an i810, so XWin is giving me fits.  It works
> fine from another PC without the Intel 810 chipset, and works right
> if I just invoke it from the Bash shell using
>
> XWin -screen 0 1024 768
>
> I get a standard X desktop, can telnet to my "main" Unix system (a 9000
> running HP-UX 11.11), and throw clients back to the server running on
> the PC.
>
> However, if I invoke XWin using
>
> XWin -query aa.bb.cc.dd -fp tcp/aa.bb.cc.dd:7000
>
> (where aa.bb.cc.dd is the IP address of my HP 9000 system)
>
> to try to get HP-UX to throw a CDE login screen back at me via xdm,
> XWin runs, it changes to a gray stippled screen, and there I sit.  No
> change to the black screen that indicates I've connected to the 9000,
> no login screen from the HP, no nothing.  Just a big ol' hang that will
> eventually time out.
>
> Contents of the "bad" /tmp/XWin.log:
>
> ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
> winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
> _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000017
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits
> per pixel
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l 0
b
> 715 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 2036
> winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d
16
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 16
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
>
> Fatal server error:
> XDMCP fatal error: Session failed Session 6 failed for display 0.0.0.0:0:
> Cannot open display
>
>
> On another Dell PC, with the only difference (that I can discover)
> being that it has an 82810-DC100 Graphics controller, XWin runs and
> lets the HP show first its black background, followed by the CDE
> login screen, with no complaint.  I can then login to the HPUX system
> and "go to town", so to speak.
>
> Contents of the "good" /tmp/XWin.log:
>
> ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
> winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 800 h 600
> _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000017
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits
> per pixel
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 572 800
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 572 800
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 794 h 547 r 794 l 0 b
> 547 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 2384
> winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winCloseScreenShadowDDNL () - Freeing screen resources
>
>
> I've searched the XFree86 archives, and see a lot of references to getting
> a copy of agpgart.o and compiling it into your kernel to get an i810 to
> play nicely.  Well, (a) I really don't want to have to re-compile Cygwin
> for Win98 if someone else already has, (b) I have no idea where to
> get a copy of agpgart.o which would work in that instance, anyway, and
> (c) since the HP can communicate to XFree86 just fine in "normal"
> mode, I can't believe this is because of a driver issue.
>
> Can anyone give me any pointers on what I should do to get XFree86
> on an i810 chipset to give me an xdm-based login from another system?
> And/or tell me what further information I should have included in my
> message that y'all expect?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Reaser
> Southeastern Data Cooperative
> Tucker, GA


From gp@familiehaase.de  Mon Apr 15 13:39:00 2002
From: gp@familiehaase.de (Gerrit P. Haase)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:39:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
In-Reply-To: <10204150655.AA14507@pluto.rain.com>
References: <10204150655.AA14507@pluto.rain.com>
Message-ID: <14184251447.20020415223912@familiehaase.de>

Hallo Perry,

Am 2002-04-15 um 08:55 schriebst du:

> OK, I've installed Cygwin and XFree86 on a Windows 95 system.  When
> I try to run C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe, I get an error box:

>     Error Starting Program

>               A required .DLL file, CYGWIN1.DLL, was not found.

> That file does exist, in C:\cygwin\bin.  Rebooting does not help.
> What part of the installation process did I miss?

> The only things I found in the FAQ that seem even remotely related are
> 1.8 and 2.3.  They mention a startxwin.bat, which I can't find on my
> system.  There's also a mention of a HOW-TO, but the only such file I
> can find is HOW-TO-CONTRIBUTE which is a little beyond where I've been
> able to get to so far :)


Use startxwin.sh to start the X server.
Add \cygwin\bin to your PATH in Windows.
Add \cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin to your PATH in Windows.

To start Xwin with startxwin.sh you need to open a Cygwin shell
(double-click on the Cygwin shortcut at desktop) or double-click
\cygwin\cygwin.bat
Then enter in the shell:
$ cd /usr/X11R6/bin
$ startxwin.sh

Is it running now?


Gerrit
-- 
=^..^=


From staf.verhaegen@imec.be  Tue Apr 16 00:11:00 2002
From: staf.verhaegen@imec.be (Staf Verhaegen)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 00:11:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
References: <10204151555.AA17839@pluto.rain.com>
Message-ID: <3CBBCEA9.4D208157@imec.be>

Perry Hutchison wrote:
> 

Perry,
Please reply to the mailing list.

> > > OK, I've installed Cygwin and XFree86 on a Windows 95 system.  When
> > > I try to run C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe, I get an error box:
> > >
> > >     Error Starting Program
> > >
> > >               A required .DLL file, CYGWIN1.DLL, was not found.
> > >
> > > That file does exist, in C:\cygwin\bin.  Rebooting does not help.
> > > What part of the installation process did I miss?
> >
> > Is C:\cygwin\bin in your Windows PATH ? If not he will not be able to find the
> > DLL.
> 
> Now it seems to do nothing at all.  No sign of it on the screen, nor on
> the taskbar, nor in the tray.  Is there a "getting started" doc somewhere?
> 
> I wonder if there's something wrong with the way I went about getting
> it into the path (PATH=%PATH%;C:\CYGWIN\BIN prior to starting Windows).
> In NT, PATH and other environment settings can be adjusted in Control
> Panel/System; but 95 doesn't seem to work that way.

On 95 you have to set the path in autoexec.bat.
It works from here when I start XWin out of a DOS window so other people will
need to help you.
What is the output of the 'mount' command ?
What if you type 'ls /usr/X11R6'

Staf.


From perryh@pluto.rain.com  Tue Apr 16 00:14:00 2002
From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 00:14:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
Message-ID: <10204160705.AA24159@pluto.rain.com>

> From: "Harold Hunt" 
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 07:29:29 -0400

> You're reading the ancient FAQ ...
> To better design our site, can I ask how you happened to completely miss
> the documentation page while still finding your way to the old FAQ?

The path I followed is:

Start at http://www.cygwin.com/

Follow the XFree86 link (16th entry in the gray box on the left) to
http://cygwin.com/xfree/

Follow the Frequently Asked Questions link (15th entry in the gray box
on the left) to http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/

Download the .TXT format;
Also follow the link to http://xfree86.cygwin.com/faq.html

I looked through both.  The only entries which seemed relevant
to the problem at hand were in what seems to be the "old" FAQ.
Of course, it's possible that I missed something.


From perryh@pluto.rain.com  Tue Apr 16 00:50:00 2002
From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 00:50:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
Message-ID: <10204160745.AA24518@pluto.rain.com>

> > I try to run C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe, I get an error box:
> >     Error Starting Program
> >               A required .DLL file, CYGWIN1.DLL, was not found.
...
> > What part of the installation process did I miss?
...
> Use startxwin.sh to start the X server.
> Add \cygwin\bin to your PATH in Windows.
> Add \cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin to your PATH in Windows.

startxwin.sh did not get installed.  Neither did startxwin.bat,
mentioned in one of the FAQ's.  I have to wonder what else may be
missing.

I did add C:\cygwin\bin and C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin to the Windows
PATH.  Now when I try to run XWin.exe from Start/Run, the mouse cursor
changes to arrow+hourglass for a few seconds, then changes back to a
plain arrow leaving no sign of anything having been started.  There's
no window, nothing added to the taskbar, nothing added to the system
tray.  Running it from Cygwin bash is the same, adding only the report
"Exit 1" when it terminates.


From perryh@pluto.rain.com  Tue Apr 16 01:40:00 2002
From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 01:40:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
Message-ID: <10204160831.AA24971@pluto.rain.com>

> What is the output of the 'mount' command ?
C:\cygwin\bin on /usr/bin type system (binmode)
C:\cygwin\lib on /usr/lib type system (binmode)
C:\cygwin on / type system (binmode)
c: on /cygdrive/c type user (binmode,noumount)
d: on /cygdrive/d type user (binmode,noumount)

> What if you type 'ls /usr/X11R6'
bin  include  lib  man


From U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de  Tue Apr 16 04:41:00 2002
From: U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de (Uwe Schmidtmann)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 04:41:00 -0000
Subject: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing Xfree
Message-ID: <3CBC0F5F.30204@visicon-online.de>


Hello.

I have one question about speed issues concerning different "Host" 
operating systems of the cygwin environment.

Here at work I am using cygwin with the latest X11 binaries on an 800 
MHz PIII and an Nvideo Vanta Graphics adaptor. X11 is quite usable with 
this setup although the speed loss compared to LinuX on this machine 
(even when "just" displaying softawre from our server) is high. But 
nothing to complain here.

But with the same configuration of Cygwin and X11 (this one was updated 
5 days ago) on my 800 MHz Athlon at home (freshly intalled 6 days ago, 
ATI Graphics) X11 is almost unsable (e.g. I can type almost faster than 
nedit can diplays it).

The main difference is that the slow system has Win98SE installed. Oh 
yes - there is also a difference in RAM: this machine has 512 MB, the 
slower one at home "only" has 256 MB which I would assume should suffice...

What is interesting though is, that when I use the demo version of MiX 
(Micro Images X Server) I get the same performance as with the NT 
machine, while on the NT box MiX and X11 running on Cygwin perform 
almost the same.

So now the question: is that a known issue or have I made a mistake when 
instlling the system?

Regards,

Uwe


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 16 04:55:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 04:55:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
In-Reply-To: <10204160705.AA24159@pluto.rain.com>
Message-ID: 

Perry,

> The path I followed is:
>
> Start at http://www.cygwin.com/
>
> Follow the XFree86 link (16th entry in the gray box on the left) to
> http://cygwin.com/xfree/
>
> Follow the Frequently Asked Questions link (15th entry in the gray box
> on the left) to http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
>
> Download the .TXT format;
> Also follow the link to http://xfree86.cygwin.com/faq.html

That won't happen again.  I removed the link to the old FAQ.  Let me tell
you, it is giving you false hope.

[To others who are helping answer this question - stop talking about how to
set your path, etc.  The real problem here is that the user was unable to
find the installation instructions that have already been prepared.]

You *have* to follow the step-by-step installation instructions in the
Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide or we cannot help you:
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/

The User's Guide tells you how to install Cygwin/XFree86, including the
startup batch files and shell scripts.  I can guarantee that you will not be
successful in installing Cygwin/XFree86 until you follow those instructions.

I recommend that you revert all PATH changes that were made in your
autoexec.bat or through the environment settings in Windows.  The
startxwin.bat and startxwin.sh scripts automatically set the path to what it
needs to be.  Much time was spent on those scripts to save users from having
to mess with the path statements themselves.

Good luck,

Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 16 05:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 05:00:00 -0000
Subject: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing Xfree
In-Reply-To: <3CBC0F5F.30204@visicon-online.de>
Message-ID: 

Uwe,

Yes, the performance difference is known and expected.  Some of the
difference is due to optimizations in Cygwin that cannot be used on Windows
95/98/Me and some of the difference is due to the speed of the graphics
libraries in Windows 95/98/Me vs. Windows NT/2000.  MI/X doesn't run into
the graphics speed differences because they use GDI drawing functions which
can be significantly accelerated by the graphics card and driver, whereas
Cygwin/XFree86 primarily uses large bit block transfers which appear to just
be slower on Windows 95/98/Me.

We have been working on a version of Cygwin/XFree86 that uses GDI drawing
functions directly, but the work is nowhere near complete or even usable.
The development of that server can be followed at:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/xoncygwin

Hope that helps,

Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 16 06:07:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 06:07:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing Xfree
Message-ID: 

Uwe forgot to cc the mailing list in his response.

Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: Uwe Schmidtmann [mailto:U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de]
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 8:54 AM
To: Harold Hunt
Subject: Re: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing
Xfree


Hello.

Thanks for the extremely fast answer - it was about what I feared to
hear. It would have been more pleasant to hear about a configuration
trap I stumbled into - so it depends on how to define "it helps".

My problem is, that I try to develop a "CCD" Camera for astronomical
purposes (not really CCD for the moment as I want to try a CMOS imaging
sensor). The control software is running under X11 (a very early version
can be found on my homepage http://www.brunsteinobs.de.vu/, an update
about the project will be done after a short introduction on a meeting
in Mai), but the hardware programming environment uses Windows - so I
was hoping to use cygwin and X11 to run my control application and nedit
  to test changes in the hardware.

Here at work I use the system to monitor and configure our server and
gateway...


Anyway: is there any cheap workaround with free or at least cheap server
software apart from MiX? Xwin32 runs extremely well but is much to
expensive for being used only once a week as a private person?

Apart from that: All programmers supporting the cygwin project did a
great job. The whole system is getting better and better...

I do not much about X-Server internals or Windows internals - but if you
need a guinnea pig (hope the spelling is right, I just mean someone to
be willing to crash his system - after backing it up) to run some tests,
feel free to contact me.

Regards,

Uwe

Harold Hunt wrote:

> Uwe,
>
> Yes, the performance difference is known and expected.  Some of the
> difference is due to optimizations in Cygwin that cannot be used on
Windows
> 95/98/Me and some of the difference is due to the speed of the graphics
> libraries in Windows 95/98/Me vs. Windows NT/2000.  MI/X doesn't run into
> the graphics speed differences because they use GDI drawing functions
which
> can be significantly accelerated by the graphics card and driver, whereas
> Cygwin/XFree86 primarily uses large bit block transfers which appear to
just
> be slower on Windows 95/98/Me.
>
> We have been working on a version of Cygwin/XFree86 that uses GDI drawing
> functions directly, but the work is nowhere near complete or even usable.
> The development of that server can be followed at:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/xoncygwin
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Harold
>
>
>
>



From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 16 06:09:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 06:09:00 -0000
Subject: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing Xfree
In-Reply-To: <3CBC1EE1.2040203@visicon-online.de>
Message-ID: 

One thing I forgot to mention is that you may want to make sure that
DirectX, etc. are up to date by visiting http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
and installing whatever updates they have there (might require several
reboots).  Some of those updates may affect the performance of
Cygwin/XFree86, or they may not :)

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Uwe Schmidtmann [mailto:U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 8:54 AM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Subject: Re: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing
> Xfree
>
>
> Hello.
>
> Thanks for the extremely fast answer - it was about what I feared to
> hear. It would have been more pleasant to hear about a configuration
> trap I stumbled into - so it depends on how to define "it helps".
>
> My problem is, that I try to develop a "CCD" Camera for astronomical
> purposes (not really CCD for the moment as I want to try a CMOS imaging
> sensor). The control software is running under X11 (a very early version
> can be found on my homepage http://www.brunsteinobs.de.vu/, an update
> about the project will be done after a short introduction on a meeting
> in Mai), but the hardware programming environment uses Windows - so I
> was hoping to use cygwin and X11 to run my control application and nedit
>   to test changes in the hardware.
>
> Here at work I use the system to monitor and configure our server and
> gateway...
>
>
> Anyway: is there any cheap workaround with free or at least cheap server
> software apart from MiX? Xwin32 runs extremely well but is much to
> expensive for being used only once a week as a private person?
>
> Apart from that: All programmers supporting the cygwin project did a
> great job. The whole system is getting better and better...
>
> I do not much about X-Server internals or Windows internals - but if you
> need a guinnea pig (hope the spelling is right, I just mean someone to
> be willing to crash his system - after backing it up) to run some tests,
> feel free to contact me.
>
> Regards,
>
> Uwe
>
> Harold Hunt wrote:
>
> > Uwe,
> >
> > Yes, the performance difference is known and expected.  Some of the
> > difference is due to optimizations in Cygwin that cannot be
> used on Windows
> > 95/98/Me and some of the difference is due to the speed of the graphics
> > libraries in Windows 95/98/Me vs. Windows NT/2000.  MI/X
> doesn't run into
> > the graphics speed differences because they use GDI drawing
> functions which
> > can be significantly accelerated by the graphics card and
> driver, whereas
> > Cygwin/XFree86 primarily uses large bit block transfers which
> appear to just
> > be slower on Windows 95/98/Me.
> >
> > We have been working on a version of Cygwin/XFree86 that uses
> GDI drawing
> > functions directly, but the work is nowhere near complete or
> even usable.
> > The development of that server can be followed at:
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/xoncygwin
> >
> > Hope that helps,
> >
> > Harold
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>


From k.vriezen@vgelder.com  Tue Apr 16 07:51:00 2002
From: k.vriezen@vgelder.com (Koos Vriezen)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 07:51:00 -0000
Subject: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing Xfree
Message-ID: 

On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Uwe Schmidtmann wrote:
> But with the same configuration of Cygwin and X11 (this one was updated 
> 5 days ago) on my 800 MHz Athlon at home (freshly intalled 6 days ago, 
> ATI Graphics) X11 is almost unsable (e.g. I can type almost faster than 
> nedit can diplays it).
> 
> The main difference is that the slow system has Win98SE installed. Oh 
> yes - there is also a difference in RAM: this machine has 512 MB, the 
> slower one at home "only" has 256 MB which I would assume should suffice...

I don't see this speed difference. I type this on a P466 Celeron Win98SE 
with a remote KDE session via xdm on a RH7.1 (and I can type very fast). 
We have different Windows NT,98,2000 and on all XFree performs quite well. 
Did found some speed impacts caused by Norton AV on W2k and ZoneAlert on 
W98. Seems that processes watching network traffic slows down Windows 
dramatically.

Regards,

Koos Vriezen



From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Tue Apr 16 08:16:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 08:16:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
In-Reply-To: <3CBBCEA9.4D208157@imec.be>
References: <10204151555.AA17839@pluto.rain.com> <3CBBCEA9.4D208157@imec.be>
Message-ID: 

My first impression was that you clicked on xwin.exe, have you tried
the batch-file, or shell-script, startxwin.bat/-sh?

        /Andy

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Tue Apr 16 08:21:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 08:21:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing Xfree
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

A hint, give vnc a try when connecting from your home-pc, can do quite
good transfer :-)

What link is used BTW when working from home? (could it be something
like MI/X running 8bit, while cygwin runs 16bit or more)

        /Andy

| 
| -----Original Message-----
| From: Uwe Schmidtmann [mailto:U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de]
| Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 8:54 AM
| To: Harold Hunt
| Subject: Re: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing
| Xfree
| 
| 
| Hello.
| 
| Thanks for the extremely fast answer - it was about what I feared to
| hear. It would have been more pleasant to hear about a configuration
| trap I stumbled into - so it depends on how to define "it helps".

[...]

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From mbradford@bahaigear.com  Tue Apr 16 10:26:00 2002
From: mbradford@bahaigear.com (Matthew Bradford)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 10:26:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <200204161322.42136.mbradford@bahaigear.com>

Harold,
	Well, I feel like an idiot, but hey... it happens to all of us I guess, 
right?  right?  please? :-)  Like an idiot I didn't check to see if all of 
the failed attempts to start the X server to connect to the XDMCP server 
actually terminated themselves.  Looked at the process list and sure enough I 
found 2 rouge servers running.  You may be wondering just how that can 
happen... well, here is how:

$XWin.exe -fullscreen &
$xhost +

The window will go away making me believe the server had crashed.  I thought 
it was just a minor bug in the fullscreen portion of the X server.  In 
reality it stays running in the background.  And what is more interesting is 
that the X server will not complain that it cannot get the port.  Is THIS is 
bug too?  Or is it how it is supposed to work for some reason?

	- Matt


On Monday 15 April 2002 07:27 am, Harold Hunt wrote:
> Matt,
>
> It's good to know that something is listening on port 6000; however, I
> don't think that it is Windows XP's  Remote Assistance feature.  The only
> port number I can find mentioned with documents on that feature is 3389.
> Besides, if Microsoft did something so stupid as to set the default port
> number the same as the well-known X Window System port number then we would
> have surely heard about it by now.  Not to mention the fact that all of our
> Windows XP users would be having the same problem that you are having.
>
> I'd be interested to know what program on your computer is actually taking
> port 6000, for future reference.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:18 AM
> > To: Harold Hunt
> > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> >
> >
> > Harold,
> > 	Sorry for not responding to the commercial X server
> > question.  The answer to
> > that one is no as well.  I was going to try and get exceed, but
> > then saw this
> > and I couldn't pass up free.  (Also, I like the codebase in XFree
> > much better
> > than any commercial X server I've seen for win32)  I knew that :1
> > changed the
> > screen to 1 rather than 0, and after performing the netstat -a..
> > sure enough
> > there is something listening on port 6000.
> >
> > 	My best guess is that annoying pc-anywhere thing built into
> > XP.  I don't know
> > though.  I feel much better now that everything works though. :-)
> >
> > Thank you very much for your help.
> > 	- Matt
> >
> > On Monday 15 April 2002 12:18 am, Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > Matt,
> > >
> > > Perhaps some process already owns port 6000 on your Windows
> >
> > machine before
> >
> > > you launch XWin.  Adding :1 changes the screen number to 1
> >
> > (from 0) which
> >
> > > changes the port number to, I believe, 6001.
> > >
> > > You can find out what ports are open by running 'netstat -a' in
> >
> > a 'cmd' box
> >
> > > on Windows XP (if that has the command prompt).
> > >
> > > One thing that could cause port 6000 to be taken would be if you have a
> > > commercial X Server installed.  On April 12 I asked if you had any
> > > commercial X Servers installed:
> > > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00273.html
> > >
> > > You never answered.  So, do you have any commercial X Servers
> > > installed?
> > >
> > > It makes perfect sense that port 6000 is already owned, since
> >
> > you can run
> >
> > > remote clients via ssh forwarding (which doesn't use port 6000), but
> > > you can't run remote clients via telnet (which does use port 6000).
> > >
> > > Let me know what you find,
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:04 PM
> > > > To: Ian Burrell
> > > > Cc: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have finally solved the problem.  However, this raises another
> > > > question...
> > > >
> > > > The solution by the way was to add :1 to the Xwin.exe.  Don't
> >
> > know why it
> >
> > > > worked, but it worked like a charm.  So then the question
> >
> > is... why? :-P
> >
> > > > 	- Matt
> > > >
> > > > On Friday 12 April 2002 10:07 pm, Ian Burrell wrote:
> > > > > Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > > > > > First, thank you very much for your time and attention.
> >
> > Now onto the
> >
> > > > > > results of your last email:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've tried that before, but I tried it again just to be
> > > >
> > > > sure... and still
> > > >
> > > > > > no go.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > did you get my previous email talking about the connection
> > > >
> > > > refused issue?
> > > >
> > > > > >  I think this is related.  The only way I can get any remote
> > > >
> > > > X app to run
> > > >
> > > > > > is when I tunnel it through SSH.  Setting the export
> >
> > variable doesn't
> >
> > > > > > work. (even when i run xhost + and/or pass the -ac option to the
> > > > > > X server)  It is acting as if access control is on still.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any ideas on how to fix that?  I'll put ya money on it that
> > > >
> > > > is the issue.
> > > >
> > > > > >  I just have no idea how to fix it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, check if you have any .Xauthority files. Try moving
> >
> > the existing
> >
> > > > > ones are regenerating them. If you are running an X server, "xauth
> > > > > generate " connects to the server and generates new
> >
> > cookies. You
> >
> > > > > can copy the resulting .Xauthority file to Red Hat 7.2 machine.
> > > > >
> > > > > One thing to try is turn on debugging in the XDMCP server.
> >
> > I don't know
> >
> > > > > how this is done with kdm. xdm has a -debug flag.
> > > > >
> > > > >   - Ian


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Tue Apr 16 10:35:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 10:35:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing Xfree
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
Message-ID: 

/ Andrew Markebo  wrote:
| A hint, give vnc a try when connecting from your home-pc, can do quite
| good transfer :-)
| 
| What link is used BTW when working from home? (could it be something

And link I mean media, connection, whatever, how do you connect
between the computers.. 

        /Andy

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 16 10:58:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 10:58:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: <200204161322.42136.mbradford@bahaigear.com>
Message-ID: 

Matt,

Are you telling me that you had several failed Cygwin/XFree86 launch
attempts and you happened to never reboot (or at least to start out with a
command line that would fail after rebooting) thus you were never able to
connect to your remote machine via XDMCP?  Man, that is some bad luck.

So, tell me now if you can connect to your remote machine via XDMCP on
display 0.  Is everything normal for you now?

The point you raise about no error being reported is interesting.  The
portion of the X Server that opens port 6000 is operating system independent
(we didn't write it in other words) so I haven't checked if it tries to
verify that port 6000 can be owned on startup.  I'll look into it, as it
does make sense to abort the session and warn the user, rather than to
silently fail in the background.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 1:23 PM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
>
>
> Harold,
> 	Well, I feel like an idiot, but hey... it happens to all of
> us I guess,
> right?  right?  please? :-)  Like an idiot I didn't check to see
> if all of
> the failed attempts to start the X server to connect to the XDMCP server
> actually terminated themselves.  Looked at the process list and
> sure enough I
> found 2 rouge servers running.  You may be wondering just how that can
> happen... well, here is how:
>
> $XWin.exe -fullscreen &
> $xhost +
>
> The window will go away making me believe the server had crashed.
>  I thought
> it was just a minor bug in the fullscreen portion of the X server.  In
> reality it stays running in the background.  And what is more
> interesting is
> that the X server will not complain that it cannot get the port.
> Is THIS is
> bug too?  Or is it how it is supposed to work for some reason?
>
> 	- Matt
>
>
> On Monday 15 April 2002 07:27 am, Harold Hunt wrote:
> > Matt,
> >
> > It's good to know that something is listening on port 6000; however, I
> > don't think that it is Windows XP's  Remote Assistance feature.
>  The only
> > port number I can find mentioned with documents on that feature is 3389.
> > Besides, if Microsoft did something so stupid as to set the default port
> > number the same as the well-known X Window System port number
> then we would
> > have surely heard about it by now.  Not to mention the fact
> that all of our
> > Windows XP users would be having the same problem that you are having.
> >
> > I'd be interested to know what program on your computer is
> actually taking
> > port 6000, for future reference.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:18 AM
> > > To: Harold Hunt
> > > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > >
> > >
> > > Harold,
> > > 	Sorry for not responding to the commercial X server
> > > question.  The answer to
> > > that one is no as well.  I was going to try and get exceed, but
> > > then saw this
> > > and I couldn't pass up free.  (Also, I like the codebase in XFree
> > > much better
> > > than any commercial X server I've seen for win32)  I knew that :1
> > > changed the
> > > screen to 1 rather than 0, and after performing the netstat -a..
> > > sure enough
> > > there is something listening on port 6000.
> > >
> > > 	My best guess is that annoying pc-anywhere thing built into
> > > XP.  I don't know
> > > though.  I feel much better now that everything works though. :-)
> > >
> > > Thank you very much for your help.
> > > 	- Matt
> > >
> > > On Monday 15 April 2002 12:18 am, Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > > Matt,
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps some process already owns port 6000 on your Windows
> > >
> > > machine before
> > >
> > > > you launch XWin.  Adding :1 changes the screen number to 1
> > >
> > > (from 0) which
> > >
> > > > changes the port number to, I believe, 6001.
> > > >
> > > > You can find out what ports are open by running 'netstat -a' in
> > >
> > > a 'cmd' box
> > >
> > > > on Windows XP (if that has the command prompt).
> > > >
> > > > One thing that could cause port 6000 to be taken would be
> if you have a
> > > > commercial X Server installed.  On April 12 I asked if you had any
> > > > commercial X Servers installed:
> > > > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00273.html
> > > >
> > > > You never answered.  So, do you have any commercial X Servers
> > > > installed?
> > > >
> > > > It makes perfect sense that port 6000 is already owned, since
> > >
> > > you can run
> > >
> > > > remote clients via ssh forwarding (which doesn't use port 6000), but
> > > > you can't run remote clients via telnet (which does use port 6000).
> > > >
> > > > Let me know what you find,
> > > >
> > > > Harold
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of
> Matthew Bradford
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:04 PM
> > > > > To: Ian Burrell
> > > > > Cc: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have finally solved the problem.  However, this raises another
> > > > > question...
> > > > >
> > > > > The solution by the way was to add :1 to the Xwin.exe.  Don't
> > >
> > > know why it
> > >
> > > > > worked, but it worked like a charm.  So then the question
> > >
> > > is... why? :-P
> > >
> > > > > 	- Matt
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday 12 April 2002 10:07 pm, Ian Burrell wrote:
> > > > > > Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > > > > > > First, thank you very much for your time and attention.
> > >
> > > Now onto the
> > >
> > > > > > > results of your last email:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've tried that before, but I tried it again just to be
> > > > >
> > > > > sure... and still
> > > > >
> > > > > > > no go.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > did you get my previous email talking about the connection
> > > > >
> > > > > refused issue?
> > > > >
> > > > > > >  I think this is related.  The only way I can get any remote
> > > > >
> > > > > X app to run
> > > > >
> > > > > > > is when I tunnel it through SSH.  Setting the export
> > >
> > > variable doesn't
> > >
> > > > > > > work. (even when i run xhost + and/or pass the -ac
> option to the
> > > > > > > X server)  It is acting as if access control is on still.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any ideas on how to fix that?  I'll put ya money on it that
> > > > >
> > > > > is the issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > > >  I just have no idea how to fix it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, check if you have any .Xauthority files. Try moving
> > >
> > > the existing
> > >
> > > > > > ones are regenerating them. If you are running an X
> server, "xauth
> > > > > > generate " connects to the server and generates new
> > >
> > > cookies. You
> > >
> > > > > > can copy the resulting .Xauthority file to Red Hat 7.2 machine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One thing to try is turn on debugging in the XDMCP server.
> > >
> > > I don't know
> > >
> > > > > > how this is done with kdm. xdm has a -debug flag.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   - Ian
>


From mbradford@bahaigear.com  Tue Apr 16 11:11:00 2002
From: mbradford@bahaigear.com (Matthew Bradford)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 11:11:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <200204161407.30364.mbradford@bahaigear.com>

Harold,

That is exactly what I'm telling you.  lol.  I would see the x server shut 
down and I assumed all the resources it had got freed.  Guess not. :-)  But 
yeah, since noticing that and killing the appropriate processes I have been 
able to connect on :0 just fine.  

About the error reporting.  I find it very odd that nothing is generated as 
well, because the Linux version will complain and kill itself if there is 
another app that has port 6000.  You sure nobody modified that code?  Or 
perhaps the networking wrappers (i assume you'd be using something like that) 
need to be looked at more closely.  Oh well, I am willing to offer any help I 
can... and yes, I will reboot when needed from now on! :-P

	- Matt


On Tuesday 16 April 2002 01:58 pm, Harold Hunt wrote:
> Matt,
>
> Are you telling me that you had several failed Cygwin/XFree86 launch
> attempts and you happened to never reboot (or at least to start out with a
> command line that would fail after rebooting) thus you were never able to
> connect to your remote machine via XDMCP?  Man, that is some bad luck.
>
> So, tell me now if you can connect to your remote machine via XDMCP on
> display 0.  Is everything normal for you now?
>
> The point you raise about no error being reported is interesting.  The
> portion of the X Server that opens port 6000 is operating system
> independent (we didn't write it in other words) so I haven't checked if it
> tries to verify that port 6000 can be owned on startup.  I'll look into it,
> as it does make sense to abort the session and warn the user, rather than
> to silently fail in the background.
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 1:23 PM
> > To: Harold Hunt
> > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> >
> >
> > Harold,
> > 	Well, I feel like an idiot, but hey... it happens to all of
> > us I guess,
> > right?  right?  please? :-)  Like an idiot I didn't check to see
> > if all of
> > the failed attempts to start the X server to connect to the XDMCP server
> > actually terminated themselves.  Looked at the process list and
> > sure enough I
> > found 2 rouge servers running.  You may be wondering just how that can
> > happen... well, here is how:
> >
> > $XWin.exe -fullscreen &
> > $xhost +
> >
> > The window will go away making me believe the server had crashed.
> >  I thought
> > it was just a minor bug in the fullscreen portion of the X server.  In
> > reality it stays running in the background.  And what is more
> > interesting is
> > that the X server will not complain that it cannot get the port.
> > Is THIS is
> > bug too?  Or is it how it is supposed to work for some reason?
> >
> > 	- Matt
> >
> > On Monday 15 April 2002 07:27 am, Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > Matt,
> > >
> > > It's good to know that something is listening on port 6000; however, I
> > > don't think that it is Windows XP's  Remote Assistance feature.
> >
> >  The only
> >
> > > port number I can find mentioned with documents on that feature is
> > > 3389. Besides, if Microsoft did something so stupid as to set the
> > > default port number the same as the well-known X Window System port
> > > number
> >
> > then we would
> >
> > > have surely heard about it by now.  Not to mention the fact
> >
> > that all of our
> >
> > > Windows XP users would be having the same problem that you are having.
> > >
> > > I'd be interested to know what program on your computer is
> >
> > actually taking
> >
> > > port 6000, for future reference.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:18 AM
> > > > To: Harold Hunt
> > > > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Harold,
> > > > 	Sorry for not responding to the commercial X server
> > > > question.  The answer to
> > > > that one is no as well.  I was going to try and get exceed, but
> > > > then saw this
> > > > and I couldn't pass up free.  (Also, I like the codebase in XFree
> > > > much better
> > > > than any commercial X server I've seen for win32)  I knew that :1
> > > > changed the
> > > > screen to 1 rather than 0, and after performing the netstat -a..
> > > > sure enough
> > > > there is something listening on port 6000.
> > > >
> > > > 	My best guess is that annoying pc-anywhere thing built into
> > > > XP.  I don't know
> > > > though.  I feel much better now that everything works though. :-)
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much for your help.
> > > > 	- Matt
> > > >
> > > > On Monday 15 April 2002 12:18 am, Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > > > Matt,
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps some process already owns port 6000 on your Windows
> > > >
> > > > machine before
> > > >
> > > > > you launch XWin.  Adding :1 changes the screen number to 1
> > > >
> > > > (from 0) which
> > > >
> > > > > changes the port number to, I believe, 6001.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can find out what ports are open by running 'netstat -a' in
> > > >
> > > > a 'cmd' box
> > > >
> > > > > on Windows XP (if that has the command prompt).
> > > > >
> > > > > One thing that could cause port 6000 to be taken would be
> >
> > if you have a
> >
> > > > > commercial X Server installed.  On April 12 I asked if you had any
> > > > > commercial X Servers installed:
> > > > > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00273.html
> > > > >
> > > > > You never answered.  So, do you have any commercial X Servers
> > > > > installed?
> > > > >
> > > > > It makes perfect sense that port 6000 is already owned, since
> > > >
> > > > you can run
> > > >
> > > > > remote clients via ssh forwarding (which doesn't use port 6000),
> > > > > but you can't run remote clients via telnet (which does use port
> > > > > 6000).
> > > > >
> > > > > Let me know what you find,
> > > > >
> > > > > Harold
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of
> >
> > Matthew Bradford
> >
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:04 PM
> > > > > > To: Ian Burrell
> > > > > > Cc: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have finally solved the problem.  However, this raises another
> > > > > > question...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The solution by the way was to add :1 to the Xwin.exe.  Don't
> > > >
> > > > know why it
> > > >
> > > > > > worked, but it worked like a charm.  So then the question
> > > >
> > > > is... why? :-P
> > > >
> > > > > > 	- Matt
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Friday 12 April 2002 10:07 pm, Ian Burrell wrote:
> > > > > > > Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > > > > > > > First, thank you very much for your time and attention.
> > > >
> > > > Now onto the
> > > >
> > > > > > > > results of your last email:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've tried that before, but I tried it again just to be
> > > > > >
> > > > > > sure... and still
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > no go.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > did you get my previous email talking about the connection
> > > > > >
> > > > > > refused issue?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  I think this is related.  The only way I can get any remote
> > > > > >
> > > > > > X app to run
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > is when I tunnel it through SSH.  Setting the export
> > > >
> > > > variable doesn't
> > > >
> > > > > > > > work. (even when i run xhost + and/or pass the -ac
> >
> > option to the
> >
> > > > > > > > X server)  It is acting as if access control is on still.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any ideas on how to fix that?  I'll put ya money on it that
> > > > > >
> > > > > > is the issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  I just have no idea how to fix it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, check if you have any .Xauthority files. Try moving
> > > >
> > > > the existing
> > > >
> > > > > > > ones are regenerating them. If you are running an X
> >
> > server, "xauth
> >
> > > > > > > generate " connects to the server and generates new
> > > >
> > > > cookies. You
> > > >
> > > > > > > can copy the resulting .Xauthority file to Red Hat 7.2 machine.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One thing to try is turn on debugging in the XDMCP server.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know
> > > >
> > > > > > > how this is done with kdm. xdm has a -debug flag.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   - Ian


From sb@dod.no  Tue Apr 16 12:30:00 2002
From: sb@dod.no (Steinar Bang)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 12:30:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
References:  <3CB4B09C.1070606@znark.com>
Message-ID: <87bscjjvhj.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no>

>>>>> Ian Burrell :

> Harold Hunt wrote:

>> Also, I request that you keep the XFree86-xserv package, as that
>> will allow us to realize the immediate benefit of being able to
>> release the Test-** server or updates to the stable server as small
>> downloads that everyone can keep up to date with.

> Good idea. I'm going to call it xfree86-xwin though. I think I'll
> put the startup-scripts.tgz in this package.

An extra bonus with this package would be to create minimized installs
that just talk XDMCP to some display manager, and has no X
applications or fonts by its own.

That's how I used CygWin/XFree86 anyway.



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From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr 16 19:20:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 19:20:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <3CB49F1C.7000604@znark.com>
References: <3CB3C24E.9060803@znark.com> <20020410053447.GA15157@redhat.com> <3CB49F1C.7000604@znark.com>
Message-ID: <20020417022045.GA3967@redhat.com>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:22:52PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>
>>Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
>>
>
>Check out http://www.znark.com/cygwin/. It doesn't include the archive 
>files; my web account doesn't have the bandwidth or quota for them. To 
>generate the packages, download the *.tgz files from 
>cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0

If someone wants to repackage these files into .bz2 format, I'll upload
them to a temporary area on sourceware.

cgf


From roland@steeltorch.com  Tue Apr 16 20:23:00 2002
From: roland@steeltorch.com (Roland Glenn McIntosh)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:23:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <20020417022045.GA3967@redhat.com>
References: <3CB49F1C.7000604@znark.com>
 <3CB3C24E.9060803@znark.com>
 <20020410053447.GA15157@redhat.com>
 <3CB49F1C.7000604@znark.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020416232018.05d606c8@lnxmain>

cgf - 
If I understood you correctly you wanted the Xfree gzipped archives turned into bzipped archives.  I have done this using the 4.2.0 cygwin binaries provided at xfree86.org.  I stuck with the .tar.bz2 convention most cygwin packages seem to use.  Please note that the Xfnts package seems to have .gz files in it (I'm assuming that's gzipped fonts) and didn't compress well.

For the rest of the week they can be accessed at:
        ftp://rgm.nu/pub/cygwin-xfree/

File list follows.
-rgm

04/17/2002 03:01AM      8,857,283 Xbin.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:01AM      1,259,910 Xdoc.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:08AM        480,598 Xetc.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:10AM     12,191,610 Xf100.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:10AM        371,828 Xfcyr.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:10AM        344,796 Xfenc.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:12AM     16,276,234 Xfnts.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:13AM      1,958,413 Xfscl.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:13AM        206,528 Xfsrv.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:13AM        891,043 Xhtml.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:13AM         85,524 Xjdoc.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:13AM         83,977 Xlib.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:13AM        559,304 Xman.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:13AM      1,122,895 Xnest.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:13AM        607,955 Xprog.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:13AM        809,720 Xprt.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:14AM      4,429,150 Xps.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:14AM      1,246,500 Xvfb.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:14AM      1,243,049 Xxserv.tar.bz2



At 10:20 PM 04.16.2002 -0400, you wrote:
>On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:22:52PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
>>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>>
>>>Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
>>>
>>
>>Check out http://www.znark.com/cygwin/. It doesn't include the archive 
>>files; my web account doesn't have the bandwidth or quota for them. To 
>>generate the packages, download the *.tgz files from 
>>cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0
>
>If someone wants to repackage these files into .bz2 format, I'll upload
>them to a temporary area on sourceware.
>
>cgf 




From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 16 20:27:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:27:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020416232018.05d606c8@lnxmain>
Message-ID: 

Hang on just a minute... I've been making some changes and will have them
finished shortly.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Roland Glenn McIntosh
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 11:24 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: xfree packages
>
>
> cgf -
> If I understood you correctly you wanted the Xfree gzipped
> archives turned into bzipped archives.  I have done this using
> the 4.2.0 cygwin binaries provided at xfree86.org.  I stuck with
> the .tar.bz2 convention most cygwin packages seem to use.  Please
> note that the Xfnts package seems to have .gz files in it (I'm
> assuming that's gzipped fonts) and didn't compress well.
>
> For the rest of the week they can be accessed at:
>         ftp://rgm.nu/pub/cygwin-xfree/
>
> File list follows.
> -rgm
>
> 04/17/2002 03:01AM      8,857,283 Xbin.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:01AM      1,259,910 Xdoc.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:08AM        480,598 Xetc.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:10AM     12,191,610 Xf100.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:10AM        371,828 Xfcyr.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:10AM        344,796 Xfenc.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:12AM     16,276,234 Xfnts.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM      1,958,413 Xfscl.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM        206,528 Xfsrv.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM        891,043 Xhtml.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM         85,524 Xjdoc.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM         83,977 Xlib.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM        559,304 Xman.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM      1,122,895 Xnest.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM        607,955 Xprog.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM        809,720 Xprt.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:14AM      4,429,150 Xps.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:14AM      1,246,500 Xvfb.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:14AM      1,243,049 Xxserv.tar.bz2
>
>
>
> At 10:20 PM 04.16.2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:22:52PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
> >>Christopher Faylor wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Check out http://www.znark.com/cygwin/. It doesn't include the archive
> >>files; my web account doesn't have the bandwidth or quota for them. To
> >>generate the packages, download the *.tgz files from
> >>cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0
> >
> >If someone wants to repackage these files into .bz2 format, I'll upload
> >them to a temporary area on sourceware.
> >
> >cgf
>
>
>


From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr 16 20:33:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:33:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020416232018.05d606c8@lnxmain>
References: <3CB49F1C.7000604@znark.com> <3CB3C24E.9060803@znark.com> <20020410053447.GA15157@redhat.com> <3CB49F1C.7000604@znark.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20020416232018.05d606c8@lnxmain>
Message-ID: <20020417033306.GA5165@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 11:23:37PM -0400, Roland Glenn McIntosh wrote:
>If I understood you correctly you wanted the Xfree gzipped archives
>turned into bzipped archives.  I have done this using the 4.2.0 cygwin
>binaries provided at xfree86.org.  I stuck with the .tar.bz2 convention
>most cygwin packages seem to use.  Please note that the Xfnts package
>seems to have .gz files in it (I'm assuming that's gzipped fonts) and
>didn't compress well.

I don't know if it is that simple.  The files should still conform to
the conventions at the oft mentioned: http://cygwin.com/setup.html .
I haven't verified that is the case for the standard .tgz files, though.

I know that Harold is working on this, but I just thought I'd answer
this question.

Regardless, thank you! for taking the initiative.  That was a quick
response.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 16 20:37:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:37:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020416232018.05d606c8@lnxmain>
Message-ID: 

Roland,

Ooos... upon actually looking at the list of files I realized that you
converted the standard XFree86 tar-gzip files into tar-bz2 files, which
isn't really what we are trying to do here.  Chris was asking that the
XFree86 Cygwin-Setup package files be turned into tar-bz2 files; these
packages can be used with Cygwin's Setup to install Cygwin/XFree86 and they
are altogether different than the standard XFree86 tar-gzip files.

Hope that clears things up,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Roland Glenn McIntosh
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 11:24 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: xfree packages
>
>
> cgf -
> If I understood you correctly you wanted the Xfree gzipped
> archives turned into bzipped archives.  I have done this using
> the 4.2.0 cygwin binaries provided at xfree86.org.  I stuck with
> the .tar.bz2 convention most cygwin packages seem to use.  Please
> note that the Xfnts package seems to have .gz files in it (I'm
> assuming that's gzipped fonts) and didn't compress well.
>
> For the rest of the week they can be accessed at:
>         ftp://rgm.nu/pub/cygwin-xfree/
>
> File list follows.
> -rgm
>
> 04/17/2002 03:01AM      8,857,283 Xbin.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:01AM      1,259,910 Xdoc.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:08AM        480,598 Xetc.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:10AM     12,191,610 Xf100.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:10AM        371,828 Xfcyr.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:10AM        344,796 Xfenc.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:12AM     16,276,234 Xfnts.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM      1,958,413 Xfscl.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM        206,528 Xfsrv.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM        891,043 Xhtml.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM         85,524 Xjdoc.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM         83,977 Xlib.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM        559,304 Xman.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM      1,122,895 Xnest.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM        607,955 Xprog.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM        809,720 Xprt.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:14AM      4,429,150 Xps.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:14AM      1,246,500 Xvfb.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:14AM      1,243,049 Xxserv.tar.bz2
>
>
>
> At 10:20 PM 04.16.2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:22:52PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
> >>Christopher Faylor wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Check out http://www.znark.com/cygwin/. It doesn't include the archive
> >>files; my web account doesn't have the bandwidth or quota for them. To
> >>generate the packages, download the *.tgz files from
> >>cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0
> >
> >If someone wants to repackage these files into .bz2 format, I'll upload
> >them to a temporary area on sourceware.
> >
> >cgf
>
>
>


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Tue Apr 16 20:40:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:40:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
References: <3CB3C24E.9060803@znark.com> <20020410053447.GA15157@redhat.com> <3CB49F1C.7000604@znark.com> <20020417022045.GA3967@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3CBCEEB4.5040006@ece.gatech.edu>

I can do this -- but what was the outcome of the package name argument? 
  Was it "xfree-foo-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2" or "xfree86-..." or "XFree86-..."?

I'll need to modify the znark script accordingly.

--Chuck


Christopher Faylor wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:22:52PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
> 
>>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
>>>
>>>
>>Check out http://www.znark.com/cygwin/. It doesn't include the archive 
>>files; my web account doesn't have the bandwidth or quota for them. To 
>>generate the packages, download the *.tgz files from 
>>cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0
>>
> 
> If someone wants to repackage these files into .bz2 format, I'll upload
> them to a temporary area on sourceware.
> 
> cgf
> 



From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 16 20:43:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:43:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <3CBCEEB4.5040006@ece.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: 

Charles,

Don't bother... I'm already on it.  The scripts are modified and I'm just
working on packaging it up.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Charles Wilson
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 11:41 PM
> To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: xfree packages
>
>
> I can do this -- but what was the outcome of the package name argument?
>   Was it "xfree-foo-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2" or "xfree86-..." or "XFree86-..."?
>
> I'll need to modify the znark script accordingly.
>
> --Chuck
>
>
> Christopher Faylor wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:22:52PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
> >
> >>Christopher Faylor wrote:
> >>
> >>>Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Check out http://www.znark.com/cygwin/. It doesn't include the archive
> >>files; my web account doesn't have the bandwidth or quota for them. To
> >>generate the packages, download the *.tgz files from
> >>cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0
> >>
> >
> > If someone wants to repackage these files into .bz2 format, I'll upload
> > them to a temporary area on sourceware.
> >
> > cgf
> >
>
>


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Tue Apr 16 20:46:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:46:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
References: 
Message-ID: <3CBCEFFA.90006@ece.gatech.edu>

Oh okay -- then I can go home (nothin to see here; nope, NOT using the 
superfast net connection at work for non-work related stuff...nope, not 
me...)

--Chuck


Harold Hunt wrote:

> Charles,
> 
> Don't bother... I'm already on it.  The scripts are modified and I'm just
> working on packaging it up.
> 
> Harold
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
>>[mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Charles Wilson
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 11:41 PM
>>To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
>>Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>>Subject: Re: xfree packages
>>
>>
>>I can do this -- but what was the outcome of the package name argument?
>>  Was it "xfree-foo-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2" or "xfree86-..." or "XFree86-..."?
>>
>>I'll need to modify the znark script accordingly.
>>
>>--Chuck
>>
>>
>>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:22:52PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Check out http://www.znark.com/cygwin/. It doesn't include the archive
>>>>files; my web account doesn't have the bandwidth or quota for them. To
>>>>generate the packages, download the *.tgz files from
>>>>cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>If someone wants to repackage these files into .bz2 format, I'll upload
>>>them to a temporary area on sourceware.
>>>
>>>cgf
>>>
>>>
>>
> 



From iburrell@znark.com  Tue Apr 16 20:47:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:47:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
References: 
Message-ID: <3CBCF025.6060700@znark.com>

Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> Ooos... upon actually looking at the list of files I realized that you
> converted the standard XFree86 tar-gzip files into tar-bz2 files, which
> isn't really what we are trying to do here.  Chris was asking that the
> XFree86 Cygwin-Setup package files be turned into tar-bz2 files; these
> packages can be used with Cygwin's Setup to install Cygwin/XFree86 and they
> are altogether different than the standard XFree86 tar-gzip files.
> 

I have uploaded the .tar.bz2 packages to http://www.znark.com/cygwin/. 
The site is limited in bandwidth so it would be best if someone copied 
them somewhere permanent.

If anyone wants to build their own copies, they can use the build.sh 
scripts in that directory. It basically unpacks the .tgz files, 
repackages them in .tar.bz2 files, and shuffles around some of the files.

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From Narasimhak@mascotsystems.com  Tue Apr 16 20:48:00 2002
From: Narasimhak@mascotsystems.com (Narasimha Reddy K)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:48:00 -0000
Subject: Problem on using system libs
Message-ID: <5575473D4532D411BE4C009027E8C838068E6718@MASBLREXC02>

it is throwing following error on building XFREE86 source.
LIBCMTD.lib(dosmap.obj) : error LNK2005: __errno already defined in
MSVCRT.LIB(MSVCRT.dll)


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From roland@steeltorch.com  Tue Apr 16 20:52:00 2002
From: roland@steeltorch.com (Roland Glenn McIntosh)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:52:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020416235240.05d6a558@lnxmain>

thanks guys :)
I figured it seemed a little simplistic of a thing to ask.  no worries.
Sorry 'bout that.

G'luck Harold.  I'm going to free some disk space on my server now.

-rgm 



From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 16 21:19:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 21:19:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

I need a sample command line for upset.  I have searched and searched and I
haven't found a single example of how to tell it which setup.hint files to
look at and which setup.ini file to generate.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 11:43 PM
> To: Charles Wilson; cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: xfree packages
>
>
> Charles,
>
> Don't bother... I'm already on it.  The scripts are modified and I'm just
> working on packaging it up.
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Charles Wilson
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 11:41 PM
> > To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: xfree packages
> >
> >
> > I can do this -- but what was the outcome of the package name argument?
> >   Was it "xfree-foo-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2" or "xfree86-..." or "XFree86-..."?
> >
> > I'll need to modify the znark script accordingly.
> >
> > --Chuck
> >
> >
> > Christopher Faylor wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:22:52PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
> > >
> > >>Christopher Faylor wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>Check out http://www.znark.com/cygwin/. It doesn't include the archive
> > >>files; my web account doesn't have the bandwidth or quota for them. To
> > >>generate the packages, download the *.tgz files from
> > >>cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0
> > >>
> > >
> > > If someone wants to repackage these files into .bz2 format,
> I'll upload
> > > them to a temporary area on sourceware.
> > >
> > > cgf
> > >
> >
> >
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 16 22:49:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 22:49:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <3CBCF025.6060700@znark.com>
Message-ID: 

Ian,

Okay, I've gotten the Cygwin/XFree86 packages to install via Cygwin's
setup.exe, but there is a slight problem: the usr/X11R6/bin, etc.
directories are created relative to the location of setup.exe, not in the
root of the Cygwin installation.  Any ideas as to what is causing this?

Harold


From U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de  Tue Apr 16 23:30:00 2002
From: U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de (Uwe Schmidtmann)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 23:30:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing Xfree
References: 	 
Message-ID: <3CBD17EC.7020809@visicon-online.de>


Hello.

Thanks for all the good hints. I am trying to comment them all at once:

First of all: The comparison was running Xfree, icewm, nedit and an own 
application completely under cygwin on the same machine - not outgoing 
connections. That is exactly my problem: I want to avoid using two 
computers for my project.

Second: Good hint is network listening: my own application (you can find 
a very early stage on http://www.brunsteinobs.de.vu/ under the XCCD 
section) uses TCP/IP socket communication to cummunicate with a rabbit 
core module. While XCCD is running under LinuX (or cygwin), the rabbit 
programming environtment needs Windows.

Third: both systems were compared just ruuning Xfee, icewm and nedit 
under cygwin without extra IP stuff running. Opening the IP port does 
not even change anything.

Forth: My Win98 machine has DirectX 8.1 which seems to be the latest 
version available from M$.

So I guess it is the difference between NT optimization and Win9x.


Best regards,

Uwe


Andrew Markebo wrote:

> / Andrew Markebo  wrote:
> | A hint, give vnc a try when connecting from your home-pc, can do quite
> | good transfer :-)
> | 
> | What link is used BTW when working from home? (could it be something
> 
> And link I mean media, connection, whatever, how do you connect
> between the computers.. 
> 
>         /Andy
> 
> 



From iburrell@znark.com  Tue Apr 16 23:39:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 23:39:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing Xfree
References: 	  <3CBD17EC.7020809@visicon-online.de>
Message-ID: <3CBD18AE.2010502@znark.com>

Uwe Schmidtmann wrote:
> 
> So I guess it is the difference between NT optimization and Win9x.
> 

It could also be a difference in multitasking. I wouldn't be surprised 
if Win98 was slower in multitasking between the X server and clients 
especially with the Cygwin library and socket communication.

You could test this by running an X client from another machine and 
comparing NT and Win98 performance.

  - Ian

-- 
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http://www.znark.com/


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Tue Apr 16 23:44:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 23:44:00 -0000
Subject: Problem on using system libs
In-Reply-To: <5575473D4532D411BE4C009027E8C838068E6718@MASBLREXC02>
References: <5575473D4532D411BE4C009027E8C838068E6718@MASBLREXC02>
Message-ID: 

/ Narasimha Reddy K  wrote:
| it is throwing following error on building XFREE86 source.
| LIBCMTD.lib(dosmap.obj) : error LNK2005: __errno already defined in
| MSVCRT.LIB(MSVCRT.dll)

Doesn't feel like you try to build it with cygwin?? Smells visual c++
(sorry for swearing ;-)

        /A

-- 
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From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Wed Apr 17 00:45:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 00:45:00 -0000
Subject: Problem on using system libs
In-Reply-To: <5575473D4532D411BE4C009027E8C838068E6718@MASBLREXC02>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Narasimha Reddy K wrote:

> it is throwing following error on building XFREE86 source.
> LIBCMTD.lib(dosmap.obj) : error LNK2005: __errno already defined in
> MSVCRT.LIB(MSVCRT.dll)

You're trying to build with VisualC++? Then this is the wrong mailing list.
There is a project for compiling Xfree with MSVC on sources.redhat.com
http://sources.redhat.com/win32-x11/

bye
	ago
-- 
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From edi@serbski-institut.de  Wed Apr 17 07:00:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 07:00:00 -0000
Subject: xkb configuration (slightly off-topic)
Message-ID: <20020417.153900.74743907.edi@serbski-institut.de>

Hello,

this is slightly off-topic but has anyone got a good configuration tool
for tweaking these xkb files? I'd like a Sorbian keyboard for cygwin/xfree86
similar to the one our windows people are using but I can't find any suitable
documentation how to tweak this xkb stuff.

Cheers

Edi


From wilper-8@ludd.luth.se  Wed Apr 17 07:04:00 2002
From: wilper-8@ludd.luth.se (Wilhelm Person)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 07:04:00 -0000
Subject: xkb configuration (slightly off-topic)
In-Reply-To: <20020417.153900.74743907.edi@serbski-institut.de>
Message-ID: 

xkeycaps?
/W

On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, PD Dr. Edward Wornar wrote:

> Hello,
>
> this is slightly off-topic but has anyone got a good configuration tool
> for tweaking these xkb files? I'd like a Sorbian keyboard for cygwin/xfree86
> similar to the one our windows people are using but I can't find any suitable
> documentation how to tweak this xkb stuff.
>
> Cheers
>
> Edi
>

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From edi@serbski-institut.de  Wed Apr 17 08:24:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 08:24:00 -0000
Subject: xkb configuration (slightly off-topic)
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020417.153900.74743907.edi@serbski-institut.de>
	
Message-ID: <20020417.172250.74741538.edi@serbski-institut.de>

Thanks for the answer.

Already tried that, didn't work for me. I don't want to simply remap
individual keys, I need different dead-keys and stuff: For instance,
I want asciigravis to behave like dead_caron and produce scaron for
`s so that applications like kmail get the idea. I thought the xkb extensions
where for me but w.o. proper docs these files are pretty scary :-(

Furthermore, I need to to this on my *local* (=cygwin) box as some people sometimes
connect via VNC and xmodmap and VNC don't agree with each other.

Edi

> xkeycaps?
> /W
> 
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, PD Dr. Edward Wornar wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > this is slightly off-topic but has anyone got a good configuration tool
> > for tweaking these xkb files? I'd like a Sorbian keyboard for cygwin/xfree86
> > similar to the one our windows people are using but I can't find any suitable
> > documentation how to tweak this xkb stuff.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Edi
> >
> 
> +-------------------------------+
> | Home:   http://wilper.cjb.net |
> | E-mail: wilper@home.se        |
> | ICQ:    18390479              |
> +-------------------------------+
> 


From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Wed Apr 17 11:02:00 2002
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 11:02:00 -0000
Subject: Curious refresh rate behavior...
Message-ID: 

My Windows 2000 desktop is set at 1024x768x24 @ 75Hz.  However, when I 
specify the following, I get a screen @ 60Hz:

    XWin -fullscreen -depth 8

Adding "-refresh 75" doesn't help, I still get 60Hz.

If I do this, I get 75Hz, but not the 8-bit depth I want:

    XWin -fullscreen

If I do this, I get 75Hz and 8-bit depth, but have to give up the DirectDraw 
engine:

    XWin -engine 1 -fullscreen -depth 8

Curious.


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From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Wed Apr 17 11:27:00 2002
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 11:27:00 -0000
Subject: Curious refresh rate behavior...
Message-ID: 

>From: "Thomas Chadwick" 

[snip]

>If I do this, I get 75Hz and 8-bit depth, but have to give up the 
>DirectDraw
>engine:
>
>    XWin -engine 1 -fullscreen -depth 8

I take it back.  This command-line gives me 75Hz, but not 8-bit depth (I get 
24-bit).


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From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Wed Apr 17 12:45:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 12:45:00 -0000
Subject: Fonts not found
Message-ID: 

I just installed the Type 1 font package that comes with Cygwin,
Xfscl.tgz. The x-server still can't find the fonts. Is there some
configuration file I need to edit also to make Cygwin aware of the
fonts?

This is what I did:

cd /usr/X11R6
extract.exe zxf Xfscl.tgz

Thanks,
Lars.

--
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Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592



From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Wed Apr 17 14:39:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 14:39:00 -0000
Subject: Fonts not found
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

/ Lars Jensen  wrote:
| I just installed the Type 1 font package that comes with Cygwin,
| Xfscl.tgz. The x-server still can't find the fonts. Is there some
| configuration file I need to edit also to make Cygwin aware of the
| fonts?
| 
| This is what I did:
| 
| cd /usr/X11R6
| extract.exe zxf Xfscl.tgz

You probably need to run mkfontdir lib/X11/fonts/[whatever the
fontdirs name was..]

And doublecheck so it is in the fontpath when X fires up, check the
log in /tmp

        /Andy

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 17 15:45:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 15:45:00 -0000
Subject: Curious refresh rate behavior...
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Thomas,

Well, answer me this one question:

What refresh rates does Windows 2000 allow when you set the Windows color
depth to 8 bits?

If the answer is that Windows only allows a 60 Hz refresh rate then you have
found that your driver only supports a 60 Hz refresh rate when in 8 bit
mode.  If Windows allows higher refresh rates in 8 bit mode then you have
found that DirectDraw )or the DirectDraw drivers for your video card) does
not allow a refresh rate higher than 60 Hz.  I would believe either of these
scenarios, as moving 8 bit colors to the screen requires a table lookup for
each pixel to find the associated rgb triple for that pixel.  I have no idea
how much overhead, if any, that that involves.

When you run with 'XWin -engine 1 -fullscreen -depth ?', the '-depth ?'
parameter is ignored because the GDI engine just opens a large GDI window
that covers the entire desktop.  No color depth switching takes place.  Thus
your discovery that you were actually running at 24 bits per pixel.

May I suggest that, if you can set Windows to a display depth of 8 bits with
a refresh rate of 75 Hz that you simply do this before and while running
XWin and switch back afterwards?  I really don't think there is anything
that we can do to help you other than this, as DirectDraw is simply not
allowing a 75 Hz refresh rate at 8 bits per pixel.

Hope that helps,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Chadwick
> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 2:27 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: Curious refresh rate behavior...
>
>
> >From: "Thomas Chadwick" 
>
> [snip]
>
> >If I do this, I get 75Hz and 8-bit depth, but have to give up the
> >DirectDraw
> >engine:
> >
> >    XWin -engine 1 -fullscreen -depth 8
>
> I take it back.  This command-line gives me 75Hz, but not 8-bit
> depth (I get
> 24-bit).
>
>
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 17 18:14:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 18:14:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
Message-ID: 

I have setup an anonymous ftp site with preliminary Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe
packages:
ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/

These is based entirely off of Ian Burrell's work.

My primary concerns that I don't know how to resolve are:
1) I didn't do the XFree86-base "meta" package properly.  setup.exe does not
list XFree86-base as a package and it doesn't enforce the dependencies of
the other packages on XFree86-base.

2) I'm not sure why, but uninstalling packages often leaves files around.
For example, uninstalling XFree86-f100 delete all files from
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ except for "UTRG__24.pcf.gz".  Weird.

3) We may need a short post-install script, based off of Xinstall.sh, that
runs mkfontdir in the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local and
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc font directories.  Xinstall.sh says it does
this to make sure that these directories are "up to date".  I guess that
every font package has the right to install fonts in local or misc, but it
seems that none of them do.  Perhaps this won't matter.


That's it for now.

I'm awaiting feedback,

Harold



From brad.boyd@hpa.com.au  Wed Apr 17 18:26:00 2002
From: brad.boyd@hpa.com.au (brad.boyd@hpa.com.au)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 18:26:00 -0000
Subject: Make Error
Message-ID: 

> Hi All, Im trying to install icewm build 1.0.9 for Xfree86
> Im getting the following error and would appreciate any help in finding a
> solution.
> Thank You.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------------------------------------
> make[1]: Entering directory `/tmp/Gnome Patches/icewm-1.0.9/src'
> Compiling misc.o...
> In file included from /usr/include/fcntl.h:14,
>                  from sysdep.h:41,
>                  from misc.cc:7:
> /usr/include/sys/fcntl.h:51: warning: `O_BINARY' redefined
> sysdep.h:18: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
> /usr/include/sys/fcntl.h:52: warning: `O_TEXT' redefined
> sysdep.h:15: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
> misc.cc:457: warning: ANSI C++ forbids declaration `basename' with no type
> misc.cc: In function `const int * basename(const char *)':
> misc.cc:457: new declaration `const int * basename(const char *)'
> base.h:172: ambiguates old declaration `char * basename(const char *)'
> misc.cc: In function `const int * basename(const char *)':
> misc.cc:459: return to `const int *' from `const char *'
> make[1]: *** [misc.o] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/Gnome Patches/icewm-1.0.9/src'
> make: *** [base] Error 2
> 
> 


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From cgf@redhat.com  Wed Apr 17 19:55:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 19:55:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020418025451.GA23633@redhat.com>

On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 09:14:30PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>I have setup an anonymous ftp site with preliminary Cygwin/XFree86
>setup.exe packages: ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/

Looks like you figured out upset.  Sorry about not responding.

>These is based entirely off of Ian Burrell's work.
>
>My primary concerns that I don't know how to resolve are:
>1) I didn't do the XFree86-base "meta" package properly.  setup.exe
>does not list XFree86-base as a package and it doesn't enforce the
>dependencies of the other packages on XFree86-base.

It needs at least an empty tar file.

>2) I'm not sure why, but uninstalling packages often leaves files
>around.  For example, uninstalling XFree86-f100 delete all files from
>/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ except for "UTRG__24.pcf.gz".  Weird.

There was another report of cygwin not removing files in the cygwin
mailing list.  Was that possibly the last in the list from a
/etc/setup/whatever.lst.gz file?

>3) We may need a short post-install script, based off of Xinstall.sh,
>that runs mkfontdir in the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local and
>/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc font directories.  Xinstall.sh says it
>does this to make sure that these directories are "up to date".  I
>guess that every font package has the right to install fonts in local
>or misc, but it seems that none of them do.  Perhaps this won't matter.

How about mounting the font directory in binmode, too?

cgf


From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Wed Apr 17 21:47:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 21:47:00 -0000
Subject: Fonts not found
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

The problem persists - I even tried to re-install all of cygwin/xfree86 
including the Xfscl package, and the problem persists. Here are the details:

I have set up xdmcp on my linux box and I connect with my PC running
Cygwin/xfree86. I connect fine to the linux box, and applications that
use standard 75dpi and 100dpi fonts run fine, but Abiword apparently use
Type 1 fonts, and complains that it cannot find the Times Roman fonts,
and then Abiword crashes. I can see that the fonts are presnt on my
Cygwin/xfree86 PC, so why can't Abiword find them?

Lars.


On 17 Apr 2002, Andrew Markebo wrote:

> / Lars Jensen  wrote:
> | I just installed the Type 1 font package that comes with Cygwin,
> | Xfscl.tgz. The x-server still can't find the fonts. Is there some
> | configuration file I need to edit also to make Cygwin aware of the
> | fonts?
> | 
> | This is what I did:
> | 
> | cd /usr/X11R6
> | extract.exe zxf Xfscl.tgz
> 
> You probably need to run mkfontdir lib/X11/fonts/[whatever the
> fontdirs name was..]
> 
> And doublecheck so it is in the fontpath when X fires up, check the
> log in /tmp
> 
>         /Andy
> 
> -- 
>  The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!
> 

--
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Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 17 22:02:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:02:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: <20020418025451.GA23633@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

> Looks like you figured out upset.  Sorry about not responding.

Actually, I did the same thing that Ian did and reverted to the upset from:
anoncvs@sources.redhat.com:/cvs/src

in the directory:
winsup/cinstall/temp

That version of upset reports the version number as the whole file name
before the .tar.bz2 (i.e. XFree86-bin-4.2.0-1 instead of 4.2.0-1) and also
manages to mangle the version reported from setup.exe:
setup-version: 2.194.2.24^@ %d.%d.%d.%d^@Can't

Oh well, at least I got the script to do a little bit of what I needed it
for.  :)


> It needs at least an empty tar file.

Okay.  I'm working on that now.


> >2) I'm not sure why, but uninstalling packages often leaves files
> >around.  For example, uninstalling XFree86-f100 delete all files from
> >/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ except for "UTRG__24.pcf.gz".  Weird.
>
> There was another report of cygwin not removing files in the cygwin
> mailing list.  Was that possibly the last in the list from a
> /etc/setup/whatever.lst.gz file?

Yes.  That is it exactly.  I also tried this with the XFree86-bin file and
it failed to remove libXxf86vm.a, which was the last file in
XFree86-bin.lst.gz.


> >3) We may need a short post-install script, based off of Xinstall.sh,
> >that runs mkfontdir in the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local and
> >/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc font directories.  Xinstall.sh says it
> >does this to make sure that these directories are "up to date".  I
> >guess that every font package has the right to install fonts in local
> >or misc, but it seems that none of them do.  Perhaps this won't matter.
>
> How about mounting the font directory in binmode, too?

Excellent idea.  Now I just need someone to write that script.  Shouldn't be
too hard.  Any takers?


Harold


From cgf@redhat.com  Wed Apr 17 22:12:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:12:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020418025451.GA23633@redhat.com> 
Message-ID: <20020418051220.GA26031@redhat.com>

On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 01:02:51AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>>Looks like you figured out upset.  Sorry about not responding.
>
>Actually, I did the same thing that Ian did and reverted to the upset
>from: anoncvs@sources.redhat.com:/cvs/src
>
>in the directory: winsup/cinstall/temp

I'd forgotten about that directory.  It's nuked now.

The syntax for upset should just be "upset dir" where `dir' is the
directory containing the distribution.  setup.ini will go to stdout.

  upset -u setup.ini dir

will update an existing setup.ini.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 17 22:18:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:18:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: <20020418051220.GA26031@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

> The syntax for upset should just be "upset dir" where `dir' is the
> directory containing the distribution.  setup.ini will go to stdout.
>
>   upset -u setup.ini dir
>
> will update an existing setup.ini.

I beg to differ.  From my "packages" directory that contains contrib,
release, etc. I have run:
upset .
upset ./
upset ../packages
upset contrib/

You get the idea.  Every single time I get:
$ ../upset/infra/bin/cygwin/upset .
# This file is automatically generated.  If you edit it, your
# edits will be discarded next time the file is generated.
# See http://cygwin.com/setup.html for details.
#
setup-timestamp: 1019106912
setup-version: 2.194.2.24


The new upset doesn't seem to work for me.  Perhaps it is just a problem
with the structure of our package tree.

Harold


From cgf@redhat.com  Wed Apr 17 22:28:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:28:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020418051220.GA26031@redhat.com> 
Message-ID: <20020418052804.GA26250@redhat.com>

On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 01:18:19AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>> The syntax for upset should just be "upset dir" where `dir' is the
>> directory containing the distribution.  setup.ini will go to stdout.
>>
>>   upset -u setup.ini dir
>>
>> will update an existing setup.ini.
>
>I beg to differ.

Try setting it up like sourceware then.  The directory defaults to 'release'.
Just do 'upset -u setup.ini' in a directory containing a the 'release' directory.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 17 22:30:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:30:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe packages with dependencies
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

I just updated the packages at
ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/

to have a working dependency between XFree86-base and the base XFree86
packages, such as XFree86-xserv, XFree86-fnts, etc.

There were two changes required:

1) 'touch contrib/XFree86/XFree86-base/XFree86-base-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2'

2) upset took the list of requirements from XFree86-base/setup.hint and put
them in quotes ("cygwin ...") when it created setup.ini.  upset didn't do
this for any other packages and the Cygwin setup.ini doesn't have quotes
around dependency lists, so I guess that the quotes were peculiar to this
version of upset, perhaps combined with a list of dependencies that is
longer than one line.  I removed the quotes from the 'requires' list from
XFree86-base and all is now well.


Dependencies work for installing.  The behavior I noticed when uninstalling
is that dependencies are ignored.  I'm guessing that setup.exe was designed
that way because there isn't really a good way to handle dependencies when
uninstalling.


Harold


From cgf@redhat.com  Wed Apr 17 22:34:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:34:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages with dependencies
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
Message-ID: <20020418053416.GA26362@redhat.com>

On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 01:30:22AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>2) upset took the list of requirements from XFree86-base/setup.hint and put
>them in quotes ("cygwin ...") when it created setup.ini.  upset didn't do
>this for any other packages and the Cygwin setup.ini doesn't have quotes
>around dependency lists, so I guess that the quotes were peculiar to this
>version of upset, perhaps combined with a list of dependencies that is
>longer than one line.  I removed the quotes from the 'requires' list from
>XFree86-base and all is now well.

That version of upset is an obsolete, buggy version.  That's why I removed
it.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 17 22:37:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:37:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: <20020418052804.GA26250@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

> Try setting it up like sourceware then.  The directory defaults 
> to 'release'.
> Just do 'upset -u setup.ini' in a directory containing a the 
> 'release' directory.

I just moved contrib to release and the new upset works like a dream!

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:28 AM
> To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available
> for comments and testing
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 01:18:19AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
> >> The syntax for upset should just be "upset dir" where `dir' is the
> >> directory containing the distribution.  setup.ini will go to stdout.
> >>
> >>   upset -u setup.ini dir
> >>
> >> will update an existing setup.ini.
> >
> >I beg to differ.
> 
> Try setting it up like sourceware then.  The directory defaults 
> to 'release'.
> Just do 'upset -u setup.ini' in a directory containing a the 
> 'release' directory.
> 
> cgf


From cgf@redhat.com  Wed Apr 17 22:40:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:40:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020418052804.GA26250@redhat.com> 
Message-ID: <20020418053950.GA26388@redhat.com>

On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 01:37:08AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>>Try setting it up like sourceware then.  The directory defaults to
>>'release'.  Just do 'upset -u setup.ini' in a directory containing a
>>the 'release' directory.
>
>I just moved contrib to release and the new upset works like a dream!

Good.  I think I fixed the bug with reading directories, too.  That
was a "feature" that I added in the last week.  Never tested it and,
surprise!, it didn't work.

cgf


From cgf@redhat.com  Wed Apr 17 22:52:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:52:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <20020410030023.GB23551@redhat.com>
References:  <3CB396A5.1070803@znark.com> <20020410015334.GO23551@redhat.com> <3CB39F07.7030203@znark.com> <20020410024203.GX23551@redhat.com> <3CB3A85C.90602@znark.com> <20020410030023.GB23551@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20020418055231.GA26591@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 11:00:23PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 07:50:04PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
>>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>>Name?  Do you mean version?  If you put a version in setup.hint it is
>>>currently ignored.
>>
>>The name from the "@" line and the version header could be used to
>>override the parsing of file names into name and version.
>
>No, the name doesn't override this, currently.

But now it does.  If you have something like this:

foo/
   foo-bob-27-1.tar.bz2

Then the version of the package will be "bob27-1" where previously it
would have been 27-1.

cgf


From iburrell@znark.com  Wed Apr 17 23:01:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 23:01:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for
 comments and testing
References: <20020418025451.GA23633@redhat.com>  <20020418051220.GA26031@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3CBE613E.9050609@znark.com>

Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 01:02:51AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
>>>Looks like you figured out upset.  Sorry about not responding.
>>
>>Actually, I did the same thing that Ian did and reverted to the upset
>>from: anoncvs@sources.redhat.com:/cvs/src
>>
>>in the directory: winsup/cinstall/temp
> 
> 
> I'd forgotten about that directory.  It's nuked now.
> 

Where is the real version? That was the only upset in that CVS 
repository. Is there some other CVS repository?

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From iburrell@stanfordalumni.org  Wed Apr 17 23:20:00 2002
From: iburrell@stanfordalumni.org (Ian Burrell)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 23:20:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for
 comments and testing
References:  <20020418025451.GA23633@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3CBE658B.2030406@stanfordalumni.org>

Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 09:14:30PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>>My primary concerns that I don't know how to resolve are:
>>1) I didn't do the XFree86-base "meta" package properly.  setup.exe
>>does not list XFree86-base as a package and it doesn't enforce the
>>dependencies of the other packages on XFree86-base.
> 
> 
> It needs at least an empty tar file.
> 

XFree86-base would be the perfect place to put Cygwin specific 
documentation.

>>3) We may need a short post-install script, based off of Xinstall.sh,
>>that runs mkfontdir in the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local and
>>/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc font directories.  Xinstall.sh says it
>>does this to make sure that these directories are "up to date".  I
>>guess that every font package has the right to install fonts in local
>>or misc, but it seems that none of them do.  Perhaps this won't matter.
> 
> 
> How about mounting the font directory in binmode, too?
> 

Is there a way to detect if the fonts directory is already mounted in 
binmode? That is the default, isn't it.

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@stanfordalumni.org
http://www.znark.com/


From David.Billinghurst@riotinto.com  Wed Apr 17 23:42:00 2002
From: David.Billinghurst@riotinto.com (Billinghurst, David (CRTS))
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 23:42:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe packages with dependencies
Message-ID: 

i have just downloaded and installed.  

I needed to add /usr/X11R6/bin to PATH, and set DISPLAY.  
Client apps work fine using Exceed as server.  I have 
"real work" going on so I can't fiddle too much.


-----Original Message-----
From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
Sent: Thursday, 18 April 2002 3:30 
To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
Cc: cygx
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe packages with
dependencies


I just updated the packages at
ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/

to have a working dependency between XFree86-base and the base XFree86
packages, such as XFree86-xserv, XFree86-fnts, etc.


From francois.perrot@cgey.com  Thu Apr 18 00:48:00 2002
From: francois.perrot@cgey.com (Francois Perrot)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 00:48:00 -0000
Subject: Display problem after update to cygwin 1.3.10 xfree 4.2.
Message-ID: <007701c1e6ac$956608a0$9b4e430a@cgey.cgey.fr>

Hi everyone,

I've updated from cygwin 1.3.3 / xfree 4.1 to cygwin 1.3.10 xfree 4.2.
With cygwin 1.3.3 / xfree 4.1, I was able to open an xterm on my machine by
setting the remote DISPLAY to "fperrot:0.0" (name of my machine).
I've 'xhost +host_name' declarations done to allow those machines to open
display on my machine.
Anyway I receive :

Xlib: connection to "fperrot:0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

When I try to connect. Do I have to configure something else ?

Regards

Francois



From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Thu Apr 18 00:55:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 00:55:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe packages with dependencies
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:30 PM
>
> Dependencies work for installing.  The behavior I noticed 
> when uninstalling is that dependencies are ignored.  I'm 
> guessing that setup.exe was designed that way because there 
> isn't really a good way to handle dependencies when uninstalling.

Yeah. On uninstalling we need some user interaction, and the chooser
isn't quite there to do that cleanly (yet).

Rob


From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com  Thu Apr 18 00:55:00 2002
From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bkarnd))
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 00:55:00 -0000
Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-keys = 
	caps-lock
Message-ID: 

Hello,

when I use alt-tab to switch from XWin to a window outside of XWin, the
currently active client window receives every tab I hit to get to the other
window.

Inside XWin, I'm using an old version of mwm (running on a HP/UX 11) to
manage the windows, and I switch with CTRL-TAB.  My installation of cygwin
and XFree86 on it are hardly a week old, so I suppose I am fairly up to
date.  The client windows are cygwin/XFree86's xterm  (the HP/UX xterm seems
unable to handle dead keys inside XWin, although it had no problem with that
using Kea!X, I'm using a belgian keyboard through xkb).

Then I have another special feature: when I accidentally (or on purpose)
press both shift keys, characters remain in uppercase, I have to switch that
of by hitting the shift keys separately.  It happens quite often by
accident, when typing a short word in uppercase, say WHAT?

Great products, both cygwin and the XFree86 port, I feel more at home at
work now ;-)

Gerard


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr 18 06:06:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 06:06:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe packages with dependencies
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

David,

> I needed to add /usr/X11R6/bin to PATH, and set DISPLAY.

So you didn't use startxwin.bat?

startxwin.bat is still included in the distribution and it is the preferred
way to start.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Billinghurst, David (CRTS)
> [mailto:David.Billinghurst@riotinto.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 2:42 AM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygx
> Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe packages with
> dependencies
>
>
> i have just downloaded and installed.
>
> I needed to add /usr/X11R6/bin to PATH, and set DISPLAY.
> Client apps work fine using Exceed as server.  I have
> "real work" going on so I can't fiddle too much.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, 18 April 2002 3:30
> To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> Cc: cygx
> Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe packages with
> dependencies
>
>
> I just updated the packages at
> ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
>
> to have a working dependency between XFree86-base and the base XFree86
> packages, such as XFree86-xserv, XFree86-fnts, etc.


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr 18 06:10:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 06:10:00 -0000
Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-keys = caps-lock
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Gerard,

I've flagged these behaviors for a follow up later.

Very interesting problems.  I've not yet heard of pressing both shift-keys
== caps-lock.

I'll get back to you when I have a look at these.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Pille Geert (bkarnd)
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:55 AM
> To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
> Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-keys
> = caps-lock
>
>
> Hello,
>
> when I use alt-tab to switch from XWin to a window outside of XWin, the
> currently active client window receives every tab I hit to get to
> the other
> window.
>
> Inside XWin, I'm using an old version of mwm (running on a HP/UX 11) to
> manage the windows, and I switch with CTRL-TAB.  My installation of cygwin
> and XFree86 on it are hardly a week old, so I suppose I am fairly up to
> date.  The client windows are cygwin/XFree86's xterm  (the HP/UX
> xterm seems
> unable to handle dead keys inside XWin, although it had no
> problem with that
> using Kea!X, I'm using a belgian keyboard through xkb).
>
> Then I have another special feature: when I accidentally (or on purpose)
> press both shift keys, characters remain in uppercase, I have to
> switch that
> of by hitting the shift keys separately.  It happens quite often by
> accident, when typing a short word in uppercase, say WHAT?
>
> Great products, both cygwin and the XFree86 port, I feel more at home at
> work now ;-)
>
> Gerard
>
>
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From arg@cyberscience.com  Thu Apr 18 06:51:00 2002
From: arg@cyberscience.com (Adam Gundy)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 06:51:00 -0000
Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020418143208.00ac55b0@pop3>

 > I'm submitting a bug report to KDE to gather more information.
 >
 > I can reproduce this bug when I put my graphics card into 32 bit color mode,
 > but I need to know if any user out there with a graphics card capable of 24
 > bit color mode has this problem when they are in 24 bit color mode.
 >
 > Please respond ASAP if you can tell me whether or not 24 bit color produces
 > the same problem of no icons in KDE 3.

hi.. I've just discovered this bug when I upgraded to KDE 3 (and spent ages
installing every single KDE package, thinking I was missing the icons :-( )

Switching to 24 bit truecolor (instead of my default 32 bit truecolor) has 
fixed
the problem. Using XVision on the 32 bit display meant that the pictures 
displayed
OK (there are other bugs in XVision though!). I suspect that the fact that 
XVision
doesn't offer 32 bit pixmaps is what makes the difference.

xdpyinfo output for cygwin XFree86 on a 24 bit display:

name of display:    cleveland:0.0
version number:    11.0
vendor string:    The XFree86 Project, Inc
vendor release number:    40200000
XFree86 version: 4.2.0
maximum request size:  4194300 bytes
motion buffer size:  256
bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    32, LSBFirst, 32
image byte order:    LSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats:    7
supported pixmap formats:
     depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
     depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
     depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
     depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
     depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
     depth 24, bits_per_pixel 24, scanline_pad 32
     depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
keycode range:    minimum 8, maximum 255
focus:  window 0x1600017, revert to PointerRoot
number of extensions:    22
     BIG-REQUESTS
     DEC-XTRAP
     DOUBLE-BUFFER
     Extended-Visual-Information
     FontCache
     GLX
     LBX
     MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
     RANDR
     RECORD
     RENDER
     SECURITY
     SGI-GLX
     SHAPE
     SYNC
     TOG-CUP
     XC-APPGROUP
     XC-MISC
     XFree86-Bigfont
     XKEYBOARD
     XTEST
     XVideo
default screen number:    0
number of screens:    1

screen #0:
   dimensions:    1146x811 pixels (388x275 millimeters)
   resolution:    75x75 dots per inch
   depths (7):    24, 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 32
   root window id:    0x36
   depth of root window:    24 planes
   number of colormaps:    minimum 1, maximum 1
   default colormap:    0x20
   default number of colormap cells:    256
   preallocated pixels:    black 0, white 16777215
   options:    backing-store NO, save-unders NO
   largest cursor:    1146x811
   current input event mask:    0xd84031
     KeyPressMask             EnterWindowMask          LeaveWindowMask 

     KeymapStateMask          SubstructureNotifyMask 
SubstructureRedirectMask
     PropertyChangeMask       ColormapChangeMask
   number of visuals:    2
   default visual id:  0x22
   visual:
     visual id:    0x22
     class:    TrueColor
     depth:    24 planes
     available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
     red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
     significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
   visual:
     visual id:    0x23
     class:    TrueColor
     depth:    24 planes
     available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
     red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
     significant bits in color specification:    8 bits


xdpyinfo output for XVision on a 32 bit display:

name of display:    localhost:1.0
version number:    11.0
vendor string:    Santa Cruz Operation Inc.
vendor release number:    730
maximum request size:  4194300 bytes
motion buffer size:  0
bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    8, MSBFirst, 16
image byte order:    MSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats:    2
supported pixmap formats:
     depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 16
     depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
keycode range:    minimum 8, maximum 140
focus:  PointerRoot
number of extensions:    10
     BIG-REQUESTS
     DOUBLE-BUFFER
     GLX
     LBX
     MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
     SCO(C)1996-VisionResumeExtension
     SHAPE
     SYNC
     XC-MISC
     XIE
default screen number:    0
number of screens:    1

screen #0:
   dimensions:    1152x864 pixels (304x228 millimeters)
   resolution:    96x96 dots per inch
   depths (2):    1, 24
   root window id:    0x24
   depth of root window:    24 planes
   number of colormaps:    minimum 1, maximum 1
   default colormap:    0x22
   default number of colormap cells:    256
   preallocated pixels:    black 0, white 16777215
   options:    backing-store YES, save-unders NO
   largest cursor:    32x32
   current input event mask:    0x0
   number of visuals:    2
   default visual id:  0x20
   visual:
     visual id:    0x20
     class:    TrueColor
     depth:    24 planes
     available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
     red, green, blue masks:    0xff, 0xff00, 0xff0000
     significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
   visual:
     visual id:    0x21
     class:    TrueColor
     depth:    24 planes
     available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
     red, green, blue masks:    0xff, 0xff00, 0xff0000
     significant bits in color specification:    8 bits


Seeya,
  Adam
--
Real Programmers don't comment their code. If it was hard to write,
it should be hard to read, and even harder to modify.
These are all my own opinions.


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr 18 07:07:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 07:07:00 -0000
Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020418143208.00ac55b0@pop3>
Message-ID: 

Adam,

What I'd also like to see if the xdpyinfo output for Cygwin/XFree86 on a 32
bit display.

Thanks,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Adam Gundy
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:51 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: kde 3.0 no icons
>
>
>  > I'm submitting a bug report to KDE to gather more information.
>  >
>  > I can reproduce this bug when I put my graphics card into 32
> bit color mode,
>  > but I need to know if any user out there with a graphics card
> capable of 24
>  > bit color mode has this problem when they are in 24 bit color mode.
>  >
>  > Please respond ASAP if you can tell me whether or not 24 bit
> color produces
>  > the same problem of no icons in KDE 3.
>
> hi.. I've just discovered this bug when I upgraded to KDE 3 (and
> spent ages
> installing every single KDE package, thinking I was missing the
> icons :-( )
>
> Switching to 24 bit truecolor (instead of my default 32 bit
> truecolor) has
> fixed
> the problem. Using XVision on the 32 bit display meant that the pictures
> displayed
> OK (there are other bugs in XVision though!). I suspect that the
> fact that
> XVision
> doesn't offer 32 bit pixmaps is what makes the difference.
>
> xdpyinfo output for cygwin XFree86 on a 24 bit display:
>
> name of display:    cleveland:0.0
> version number:    11.0
> vendor string:    The XFree86 Project, Inc
> vendor release number:    40200000
> XFree86 version: 4.2.0
> maximum request size:  4194300 bytes
> motion buffer size:  256
> bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    32, LSBFirst, 32
> image byte order:    LSBFirst
> number of supported pixmap formats:    7
> supported pixmap formats:
>      depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
>      depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
>      depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
>      depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
>      depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
>      depth 24, bits_per_pixel 24, scanline_pad 32
>      depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
> keycode range:    minimum 8, maximum 255
> focus:  window 0x1600017, revert to PointerRoot
> number of extensions:    22
>      BIG-REQUESTS
>      DEC-XTRAP
>      DOUBLE-BUFFER
>      Extended-Visual-Information
>      FontCache
>      GLX
>      LBX
>      MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
>      RANDR
>      RECORD
>      RENDER
>      SECURITY
>      SGI-GLX
>      SHAPE
>      SYNC
>      TOG-CUP
>      XC-APPGROUP
>      XC-MISC
>      XFree86-Bigfont
>      XKEYBOARD
>      XTEST
>      XVideo
> default screen number:    0
> number of screens:    1
>
> screen #0:
>    dimensions:    1146x811 pixels (388x275 millimeters)
>    resolution:    75x75 dots per inch
>    depths (7):    24, 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 32
>    root window id:    0x36
>    depth of root window:    24 planes
>    number of colormaps:    minimum 1, maximum 1
>    default colormap:    0x20
>    default number of colormap cells:    256
>    preallocated pixels:    black 0, white 16777215
>    options:    backing-store NO, save-unders NO
>    largest cursor:    1146x811
>    current input event mask:    0xd84031
>      KeyPressMask             EnterWindowMask          LeaveWindowMask
>
>      KeymapStateMask          SubstructureNotifyMask
> SubstructureRedirectMask
>      PropertyChangeMask       ColormapChangeMask
>    number of visuals:    2
>    default visual id:  0x22
>    visual:
>      visual id:    0x22
>      class:    TrueColor
>      depth:    24 planes
>      available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
>      red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
>      significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
>    visual:
>      visual id:    0x23
>      class:    TrueColor
>      depth:    24 planes
>      available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
>      red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
>      significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
>
>
> xdpyinfo output for XVision on a 32 bit display:
>
> name of display:    localhost:1.0
> version number:    11.0
> vendor string:    Santa Cruz Operation Inc.
> vendor release number:    730
> maximum request size:  4194300 bytes
> motion buffer size:  0
> bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    8, MSBFirst, 16
> image byte order:    MSBFirst
> number of supported pixmap formats:    2
> supported pixmap formats:
>      depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 16
>      depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
> keycode range:    minimum 8, maximum 140
> focus:  PointerRoot
> number of extensions:    10
>      BIG-REQUESTS
>      DOUBLE-BUFFER
>      GLX
>      LBX
>      MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
>      SCO(C)1996-VisionResumeExtension
>      SHAPE
>      SYNC
>      XC-MISC
>      XIE
> default screen number:    0
> number of screens:    1
>
> screen #0:
>    dimensions:    1152x864 pixels (304x228 millimeters)
>    resolution:    96x96 dots per inch
>    depths (2):    1, 24
>    root window id:    0x24
>    depth of root window:    24 planes
>    number of colormaps:    minimum 1, maximum 1
>    default colormap:    0x22
>    default number of colormap cells:    256
>    preallocated pixels:    black 0, white 16777215
>    options:    backing-store YES, save-unders NO
>    largest cursor:    32x32
>    current input event mask:    0x0
>    number of visuals:    2
>    default visual id:  0x20
>    visual:
>      visual id:    0x20
>      class:    TrueColor
>      depth:    24 planes
>      available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
>      red, green, blue masks:    0xff, 0xff00, 0xff0000
>      significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
>    visual:
>      visual id:    0x21
>      class:    TrueColor
>      depth:    24 planes
>      available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
>      red, green, blue masks:    0xff, 0xff00, 0xff0000
>      significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
>
>
> Seeya,
>   Adam
> --
> Real Programmers don't comment their code. If it was hard to write,
> it should be hard to read, and even harder to modify.
> These are all my own opinions.
>


From arg@cyberscience.com  Thu Apr 18 07:17:00 2002
From: arg@cyberscience.com (Adam Gundy)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 07:17:00 -0000
Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
In-Reply-To: 
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020418143208.00ac55b0@pop3>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020418151500.00ac2110@pop3>

At 10:07 18/04/02 -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>Adam,
>
>What I'd also like to see if the xdpyinfo output for Cygwin/XFree86 on a 32
>bit display.

sorry... I assumed you'd already have that. Here it is:

name of display:    localhost:0.0
version number:    11.0
vendor string:    The XFree86 Project, Inc
vendor release number:    40200000
XFree86 version: 4.2.0
maximum request size:  4194300 bytes
motion buffer size:  256
bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    32, LSBFirst, 32
image byte order:    LSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats:    7
supported pixmap formats:
     depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
     depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
     depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
     depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
     depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
     depth 24, bits_per_pixel 24, scanline_pad 32
     depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
keycode range:    minimum 8, maximum 255
focus:  PointerRoot
number of extensions:    22
     BIG-REQUESTS
     DEC-XTRAP
     DOUBLE-BUFFER
     Extended-Visual-Information
     FontCache
     GLX
     LBX
     MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
     RANDR
     RECORD
     RENDER
     SECURITY
     SGI-GLX
     SHAPE
     SYNC
     TOG-CUP
     XC-APPGROUP
     XC-MISC
     XFree86-Bigfont
     XKEYBOARD
     XTEST
     XVideo
default screen number:    0
number of screens:    1

screen #0:
   dimensions:    1146x811 pixels (388x275 millimeters)
   resolution:    75x75 dots per inch
   depths (7):    32, 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 24
   root window id:    0x36
   depth of root window:    32 planes
   number of colormaps:    minimum 1, maximum 1
   default colormap:    0x20
   default number of colormap cells:    2048
   preallocated pixels:    black 0, white 16777215
   options:    backing-store NO, save-unders NO
   largest cursor:    1146x811
   current input event mask:    0x0
   number of visuals:    2
   default visual id:  0x22
   visual:
     visual id:    0x22
     class:    TrueColor
     depth:    32 planes
     available colormap entries:    2048 per subfield
     red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
     significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
   visual:
     visual id:    0x23
     class:    TrueColor
     depth:    32 planes
     available colormap entries:    2048 per subfield
     red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
     significant bits in color specification:    8 bits



Seeya,
  Adam
--
Real Programmers don't comment their code. If it was hard to write,
it should be hard to read, and even harder to modify.
These are all my own opinions.


From holger.vogt@ims.fhg.de  Thu Apr 18 08:10:00 2002
From: holger.vogt@ims.fhg.de (Holger Vogt)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 08:10:00 -0000
Subject: Subject: Re: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing 
 Xfree 
Message-ID: <3CBEE1DE.A1BFEDD6@ims.fhg.de>

My display slowed down dramatically  when I moved from a 1024x768 screen
to a new display with 1280x1024 resolution (both with ME).

Holger Vogt


From gmiller@cs.sunysb.edu  Thu Apr 18 12:00:00 2002
From: gmiller@cs.sunysb.edu (Jerry Miller)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 12:00:00 -0000
Subject: Pixmap practical size limitation?
Message-ID: <001601c1e70a$ca519d00$1e0ef582@cs.sunysb.edu>

In modifying an existing application, which contained
one (scrolled) DrawingArea and two (scrolled) Text
widgets, I wanted to use multicolor text and decided
to use two more DrawingArea widgets to accomplish
this.  However, only the 2000x2000 original Pixmap
is reliably written for the refreshment of the original
DrawingArea.

In order to accommodate the potentially long and/or
wide range of text in the emulated Text widgets, I
created a Pixmap of size 5000x4000 and 10000x2000,
respectively.  To be sure it wasn't something in the
rendition of the text strings that was at fault in their
unpredictable behavior, I drew a black 20x100
rectangle in the upper left corner of each Pixmap
immediately after creation.  Only the one for the
2000x2000 Pixmap appears in the associated
DrawingArea window.

Other than their sizes (and the variable names,
of course), there is virtually no difference between
these Pixmaps.  In fact, if I temporarily change
the dimensions of the other two to 2000x2000,
I find that their behavior becomes reliable once
again.

None of the X documentation mentions any
size limitations for the Pixmap, whose datatype
is "opaque."  (Thanks a lot, MIT!)  Even if
there were one, it should generate a predictable
error message, rather than an unpredictable
behavior.  Anyway, even if "unsigned int"
referred to 16 bits on my computer (which it
does not), these dimensions would still be
within range - for that matter, they would even
be accommodated by "signed short"!

Is this a known bug?  If so, can I get around it,
albeit kludgily, by declaring 21 variables of type
Pixmap and doing redundant XDrawString()
calls to be sure that any that might fall withing
the bounds of the write will be updated, or is
there a limit on the _total_ amount of memory
available for Pixmap data?

I am running under Windows NT4, SP3, with
the Hummingbird Window Manager, v.6.1.
(The window manager supplied with cygwin
is impractical for any sophisticated applications.)



From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr 18 12:16:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 12:16:00 -0000
Subject: Pixmap practical size limitation?
In-Reply-To: <001601c1e70a$ca519d00$1e0ef582@cs.sunysb.edu>
Message-ID: 

Jerry,

This is a Cygwin/XFree86-specific mailing list.  Your question about whether
40 MB to 80 MB pixmaps are allowed is a general XFree86/X question that
should be asked and answered by general XFree86/X mailing lists or
documentation.

Please check out these websites for more information and mailing list
addresses:
http://xfree86.org/
http://www.x.org/

You might also want to look in books, etc. for an answer.

Sorry we can't help,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jerry Miller
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 2:57 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Pixmap practical size limitation?
>
>
> In modifying an existing application, which contained
> one (scrolled) DrawingArea and two (scrolled) Text
> widgets, I wanted to use multicolor text and decided
> to use two more DrawingArea widgets to accomplish
> this.  However, only the 2000x2000 original Pixmap
> is reliably written for the refreshment of the original
> DrawingArea.
>
> In order to accommodate the potentially long and/or
> wide range of text in the emulated Text widgets, I
> created a Pixmap of size 5000x4000 and 10000x2000,
> respectively.  To be sure it wasn't something in the
> rendition of the text strings that was at fault in their
> unpredictable behavior, I drew a black 20x100
> rectangle in the upper left corner of each Pixmap
> immediately after creation.  Only the one for the
> 2000x2000 Pixmap appears in the associated
> DrawingArea window.
>
> Other than their sizes (and the variable names,
> of course), there is virtually no difference between
> these Pixmaps.  In fact, if I temporarily change
> the dimensions of the other two to 2000x2000,
> I find that their behavior becomes reliable once
> again.
>
> None of the X documentation mentions any
> size limitations for the Pixmap, whose datatype
> is "opaque."  (Thanks a lot, MIT!)  Even if
> there were one, it should generate a predictable
> error message, rather than an unpredictable
> behavior.  Anyway, even if "unsigned int"
> referred to 16 bits on my computer (which it
> does not), these dimensions would still be
> within range - for that matter, they would even
> be accommodated by "signed short"!
>
> Is this a known bug?  If so, can I get around it,
> albeit kludgily, by declaring 21 variables of type
> Pixmap and doing redundant XDrawString()
> calls to be sure that any that might fall withing
> the bounds of the write will be updated, or is
> there a limit on the _total_ amount of memory
> available for Pixmap data?
>
> I am running under Windows NT4, SP3, with
> the Hummingbird Window Manager, v.6.1.
> (The window manager supplied with cygwin
> is impractical for any sophisticated applications.)
>
>


From a.rburgers@freeler.nl  Thu Apr 18 13:40:00 2002
From: a.rburgers@freeler.nl (Teun Burgers)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 13:40:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe packages available for 
 comments and testing
References: 
Message-ID: <3CBF2D86.60C40E08@freeler.nl>

Harold Hunt wrote:
 
> I'm awaiting feedback,

This is the first time I installed/used xfree86 at all. I used setup on
the URL you gave and everything went smoothly (including the
dependencies).

I downloaded and installed just the basic set, added /usr/X11R6/bin
to my path, ran startx (got a lot of warnings from Zonealarm which
makes sense of cause) and started twm after that.

Very good job!

regards

Teun



From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Thu Apr 18 14:00:00 2002
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:00:00 -0000
Subject: Curious refresh rate behavior...
Message-ID: 

>From: "Harold Hunt" 
>To: "Thomas Chadwick" , 
>Subject: RE: Curious refresh rate behavior...
>Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 18:45:07 -0400
>
>Thomas,
>
>Well, answer me this one question:
>
>What refresh rates does Windows 2000 allow when you set the Windows color
>depth to 8 bits?
>

I switched Windows to 1024x768x8 and got 75Hz.
I then ran XWin -fullscreen and got 1024x768x8 @ 75Hz.
I then quit XWin and reset Windows to 1024x768x24 @ 75Hz.
I then ran XWin -fullscreen -depth 8 and got 1024x768x8 @ 75Hz!

Strange.  I'll chaulk it up to some funny business with DirectDraw or the 
Video Driver.

Thanks.


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From cgf@redhat.com  Thu Apr 18 19:02:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 19:02:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: <3CBF2D86.60C40E08@freeler.nl>
References:  <3CBF2D86.60C40E08@freeler.nl>
Message-ID: <20020419020233.GK7323@redhat.com>

On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 10:33:10PM +0200, Teun Burgers wrote:
>Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
>> I'm awaiting feedback,
>
>This is the first time I installed/used xfree86 at all. I used setup on
>the URL you gave and everything went smoothly (including the
>dependencies).
>
>I downloaded and installed just the basic set, added /usr/X11R6/bin
>to my path, ran startx (got a lot of warnings from Zonealarm which
>makes sense of cause) and started twm after that.
>
>Very good job!

Shall we add this to the cygwin distro or are we still waiting for
some postinstall shell script work?

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr 18 22:24:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:24:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: <20020419020233.GK7323@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Chris,

> Shall we add this to the cygwin distro or are we still waiting for
> some postinstall shell script work?

These will forever be known as Harold's Famous Last Words:
	Sure Chris, why not?  Go ahead and add the packages to the distro.

Be aware, I just updated XFree86-xserv to 4.2.0-2, so you'll need to grab
the latest packages off of ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/

That's all for now.

I can't wait to see how many people use Cygwin/XFree86 now!

Oh, we can wait for the postinstall shell script.  That will really be just
icing on the cake.

Harold


From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com  Fri Apr 19 06:33:00 2002
From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bkarnd))
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 06:33:00 -0000
Subject: key repeats when other window pops up
Message-ID: 

>From the keyboard testing department, April 19 2002.

Today we noticed the following behaviour from XWin:

Whilst typing merrily away in an xterm-client, all of a sudden a message
window popped up, as message windows are wont to do.  The xterm-client lost
control, and did not notice that the end user had released the key he was
pressing in xterm, in this case, the "a"-key.  Under the impression that the
end-user was still holding the "a"-key, the xterm-client continued
displaying "a"-characters, and would still be doing so, had he not been
stopped by the end-user himself.

Please ignore this message if the behaviour described above is not, as is
often much to hastily concluded, a bug, but rather a feature to occupy the
clients while the end user is being distracted.

With the utmost respect,

we remain,

yours faithfully,

etc. etc.


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From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Fri Apr 19 07:26:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 07:26:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86 4.2.0 under Cygwin on Win98 w/ i810 won't display CDE
 fro m HPUX
In-Reply-To: <1E5BB4E16573714B9A0CB774B2AB0CC6164691@mailserver.sedata.com>
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Michael Reaser wrote:

> 
> XWin -query aa.bb.cc.dd -fp tcp/aa.bb.cc.dd:7000 
> 
> Fatal server error:
> XDMCP fatal error: Session failed Session 6 failed for display 0.0.0.0:0:
> Cannot open display

you need the -from parameter.

XWin -query aa.bb.cc.dd -from localip (not 127.0.0.1)

bye
    ago
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From cgf@redhat.com  Fri Apr 19 09:52:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:52:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020419020233.GK7323@redhat.com> 
Message-ID: <20020419165227.GH20463@redhat.com>

On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:24:48AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>Chris,
>
>> Shall we add this to the cygwin distro or are we still waiting for
>> some postinstall shell script work?
>
>These will forever be known as Harold's Famous Last Words:
>	Sure Chris, why not?  Go ahead and add the packages to the distro.
>
>Be aware, I just updated XFree86-xserv to 4.2.0-2, so you'll need to grab
>the latest packages off of ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
>
>That's all for now.
>
>I can't wait to see how many people use Cygwin/XFree86 now!

Ditto.  Hope you're ready for this.

cgf


From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Fri Apr 19 10:05:00 2002
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 10:05:00 -0000
Subject: New Xfree Cygwin Package...
Message-ID: 

I've been watching with interest all this work on packaging the Xfree/XWin 
stuff.  Now that it appears to be a reality, what do you recommend for those 
of us who already have Xfree installed via the "old" method?

I for one would like to move over the the Cygwin package method becaused I 
like being able to into the Cygwin setup program to see what's changed.  
However, I'm a little hesitant to go installing the new packages until I 
understand what the impact on my existing setup might be.


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From cgf@redhat.com  Fri Apr 19 10:15:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 10:15:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: <20020419165227.GH20463@redhat.com>
References: <20020419020233.GK7323@redhat.com>  <20020419165227.GH20463@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20020419171504.GA23436@redhat.com>

On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 12:52:27PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:24:48AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>>Chris,
>>
>>> Shall we add this to the cygwin distro or are we still waiting for
>>> some postinstall shell script work?
>>
>>These will forever be known as Harold's Famous Last Words:
>>	Sure Chris, why not?  Go ahead and add the packages to the distro.
>>
>>Be aware, I just updated XFree86-xserv to 4.2.0-2, so you'll need to grab
>>the latest packages off of ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
>>
>>That's all for now.
>>
>>I can't wait to see how many people use Cygwin/XFree86 now!
>
>Ditto.  Hope you're ready for this.

It's up there.  Should be on mirrors shortly.

One thing I just noticed, though (by looking at
http://cygwin.com/packages/), was that the source tar.bz2 files don't
seem to be part of this.  There should probably be fewer source tar
balls than binary but they should be part of the distribution, right?
If not, we'll inevitably get questions.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr 19 13:56:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 13:56:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: <20020419171504.GA23436@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Chris,

> It's up there.  Should be on mirrors shortly.

Very cool.

> One thing I just noticed, though (by looking at
> http://cygwin.com/packages/), was that the source tar.bz2 files don't
> seem to be part of this.  There should probably be fewer source tar
> balls than binary but they should be part of the distribution, right?
> If not, we'll inevitably get questions.

I've thought about this enough to make my head spin.  The only real solution
I could come up with is to tell folks to go to the XFree86 CVS tree.

The main problem with -src packages for us is that almost nothing will
change after an XFree86 release except for the xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin
directory, where I make modifications to the XWin server.  So, what do I do
for packaging?  Which of the XFree86-* packages do I include source with?
Do I include one huge tarball with everything and another small tarball that
has just the hw/xwin directory so that it can be easily updated?  I'm
confused.

I didn't quite gather from the earlier discussions whether we can have a
source package seperate from any binary packages.  i.e., could we have
XFree86-full-src without an associated binary package?  Or would we have to
make XFree86-base-src the package that contained the full source archive.


In a related question that has to do with my laziness, I need a way to
tarball a CVS tree without including the CVS directories.  I'm sure this can
be done with a simple script, but I'm a programmer not a script writer.
Anyone want to point me to an existing script that does this, or write one
for me?


Later,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 1:15 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com; cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available
> for comments and testing
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 12:52:27PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> >On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:24:48AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
> >>Chris,
> >>
> >>> Shall we add this to the cygwin distro or are we still waiting for
> >>> some postinstall shell script work?
> >>
> >>These will forever be known as Harold's Famous Last Words:
> >>	Sure Chris, why not?  Go ahead and add the packages to the distro.
> >>
> >>Be aware, I just updated XFree86-xserv to 4.2.0-2, so you'll
> need to grab
> >>the latest packages off of ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> >>
> >>That's all for now.
> >>
> >>I can't wait to see how many people use Cygwin/XFree86 now!
> >
> >Ditto.  Hope you're ready for this.
>
> It's up there.  Should be on mirrors shortly.
>
> One thing I just noticed, though (by looking at
> http://cygwin.com/packages/), was that the source tar.bz2 files don't
> seem to be part of this.  There should probably be fewer source tar
> balls than binary but they should be part of the distribution, right?
> If not, we'll inevitably get questions.
>
> cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr 19 14:05:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:05:00 -0000
Subject: New Xfree Cygwin Package...
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Thomas,

> I've been watching with interest all this work on packaging the
> Xfree/XWin
> stuff.  Now that it appears to be a reality, what do you
> recommend for those
> of us who already have Xfree installed via the "old" method?
>
> I for one would like to move over the the Cygwin package method
> becaused I
> like being able to into the Cygwin setup program to see what's changed.
> However, I'm a little hesitant to go installing the new packages until I
> understand what the impact on my existing setup might be.

You have an excellent point.  Unfortunately, the answer is, "I don't know".
I haven't yet tried installing Cygwin/XFree86 via setup.exe overtop of an
existing Cygwin/XFree86 installation.  I'd like to know what happens, but
I'm not sure that I would recommend doing it.

I think the recommended course of action is to move /usr/X11R6 and /etc/X11
to backup directories and install Cygwin/XFree86 via setup.exe.  Be sure
that the new Cygwin/XFree86 installation works and that you have copied over
any modified files, etc. to the new directories, then get rid of the old
directories.  I have to do this all the time during development on
Cygwin/XFree86.  Here are the commands I use:

mv /usr/X11R6 /usr/X11R6_works
mv /etc/X11 /etc/X11_works


Hope that helps,

Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr 19 14:17:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:17:00 -0000
Subject: key repeats when other window pops up
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Gerard,

Yes, we have been aware of that behavior for some time now.  In fact, it is
listed as the first item on the Development To-Do List:
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/todo.html

We have a patch for this problem.  However, in the course of applying this
patch I realized that there is a second problem that was originally thought
to be a bug of the patch that fixes your problem.  This other bug is that
when Cygwin/XFree86 gets bogged down in processing, such as when running the
test Native GDI server (which is really slow right now because it does every
single graphics operations as a set of thousands of simple line draws).

For example:
1) Open the test Cygwin/XFree86 server in Native GDI mode.  (you can't do
this unless you build from CVS)

2) Run 'xdpyinfo', 'ls' on /usr/X11R6/bin, or some other program that will
fill an xterm's scroll buffer with lines of text.  Notice that there is an
extra blank command line after the output.  This is because somewhere along
the way the 'enter' key gets fired twice.

3) Scroll to the top of the xterm scroll buffer (this will take seconds).

4) Type 'exit' or any other word, but do not press enter.  This will cause
xterm to scroll down to the command line.  (this will take seconds).

5) Notice that 'exit' comes out as 'eexit'.  No, this is not because the 'e'
that you typed is being echoed late.  This is an actual duplicate key event,
because if you press 'enter' xterm will report that 'eexit' cannot be found.


I did much investigating into this problem using printf's sprinkled
throughout the code.  I was able to figure out that it wasn't the hw/xwin
code that processes Windows keyboard messages that was duplicating events.
Rather, there is a procedure deep in the server that seems to be duplicating
the events.  I built a debug version of the tree and tried to debug it but
gdb kept crashing and I ran out of time.


To make a long story short, after all that excitement I kinda put off those
patches for awhile.  I should go ahead and apply them since they solve a
very real and current problem, and I have determined that the patch is not
the cause of the mystery key repeat problem.


I hope that muddies things up for you :)

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Pille Geert (bkarnd)
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 10:33 AM
> To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
> Subject: key repeats when other window pops up
>
>
> >From the keyboard testing department, April 19 2002.
>
> Today we noticed the following behaviour from XWin:
>
> Whilst typing merrily away in an xterm-client, all of a sudden a message
> window popped up, as message windows are wont to do.  The
> xterm-client lost
> control, and did not notice that the end user had released the key he was
> pressing in xterm, in this case, the "a"-key.  Under the
> impression that the
> end-user was still holding the "a"-key, the xterm-client continued
> displaying "a"-characters, and would still be doing so, had he not been
> stopped by the end-user himself.
>
> Please ignore this message if the behaviour described above is not, as is
> often much to hastily concluded, a bug, but rather a feature to occupy the
> clients while the end user is being distracted.
>
> With the utmost respect,
>
> we remain,
>
> yours faithfully,
>
> etc. etc.
>
>
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From Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de  Fri Apr 19 14:38:00 2002
From: Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de (Benjamin Riefenstahl)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:38:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

"Harold Hunt"  writes:
> Excellent idea.  Now I just need someone to write that script.
> Shouldn't be too hard.  Any takers?

How about

  fontdir=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts
  wfontdir=`cygpath -w $fontdir`
  mount -bfs $wfontdir $fontdir 2> /dev/null || mount -bfu $wfontdir $fontdir

IOW, create a system mount in binary mode on the font directory,
disregarding any existing mount on the same place.  If the user is not
allowed to create a system mount, create a user mount instead.

This would break when there already is a user mount in text mode.
That seems pretty unlikely, though.


so long, benny


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Fri Apr 19 15:28:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 15:28:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 6:56 AM


> In a related question that has to do with my laziness, I need 
> a way to tarball a CVS tree without including the CVS 
> directories.  I'm sure this can be done with a simple script, 
> but I'm a programmer not a script writer. Anyone want to 
> point me to an existing script that does this, or write one for me?

Grab the -src for one of the packages that Chuck or I maintain - say
libxslt. There is a tar command in the .sh that filters out various
directories... I'm sure you can adapt it easily.

Rob


From cgf@redhat.com  Fri Apr 19 15:47:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 15:47:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020419171504.GA23436@redhat.com> 
Message-ID: <20020419224747.GA30212@redhat.com>

On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 04:55:57PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>The main problem with -src packages for us is that almost nothing will
>change after an XFree86 release except for the
>xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin directory, where I make modifications to
>the XWin server.  So, what do I do for packaging?  Which of the
>XFree86-* packages do I include source with?  Do I include one huge
>tarball with everything and another small tarball that has just the
>hw/xwin directory so that it can be easily updated?  I'm confused.

I had the same thoughts and hoped you'd have a brilliant solution.  :-)

>I didn't quite gather from the earlier discussions whether we can have
>a source package seperate from any binary packages.  i.e., could we
>have XFree86-full-src without an associated binary package?  Or would
>we have to make XFree86-base-src the package that contained the full
>source archive.

Hmm.  Yes.  I think this would work.  That might be the best solution.

In fact, it may be a nice trend setter.

>
>In a related question that has to do with my laziness, I need a way to
>tarball a CVS tree without including the CVS directories.  I'm sure this can
>be done with a simple script, but I'm a programmer not a script writer.
>Anyone want to point me to an existing script that does this, or write one
>for me?

 From my "generate a package" script:

find $package_src/* -print -follow | egrep -v '\.cvsignore|\.bak$|\.orig$|~$|^.#|CVS|%redact|/tags$' | egrep -v "$src_exclude" |
 sort | tar -T - --no-recursion -cjf "$tarstem"-src.tar.bz2

cgf


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Fri Apr 19 16:21:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:21:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:cgf@redhat.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 8:48 AM

> >I didn't quite gather from the earlier discussions whether 
> we can have 
> >a source package seperate from any binary packages.  i.e., could we 
> >have XFree86-full-src without an associated binary package?  
> Or would 
> >we have to make XFree86-base-src the package that contained the full 
> >source archive.
> 
> Hmm.  Yes.  I think this would work.  That might be the best solution.
> 
> In fact, it may be a nice trend setter.

I think setup.exe needs a little work before doing this, but it's a good
direction. (i.e. setup.exe should have a view to only show src packages,
and a view to only show binaries - to avoid confusing folk). (Think
apt-get source vs apt-get install).

Rob


From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Fri Apr 19 16:25:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:25:00 -0000
Subject: qt 2.3.1 beta 1 release available
Message-ID: <002301c1e7f9$71e4af50$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>

Hi all,

the kde-cygwin team has released the qt 2.3.1 beta 1 release.
This release is an update to the official qt 2.3.1 with all cygwin related
patches from the 2.3.0 release applied.
The most imported change is optimized qdir/qfile code, which speeds up qt file
dialog displaying.

You can found qt-cygwin under http://kde-cygwin.sf.net.

Ralf


From cgf@redhat.com  Fri Apr 19 17:44:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 17:44:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
Message-ID: <20020420004448.GD28399@redhat.com>

On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 11:17:56PM +0200, Benjamin Riefenstahl wrote:
>"Harold Hunt"  writes:
>> Excellent idea.  Now I just need someone to write that script.
>> Shouldn't be too hard.  Any takers?
>
>How about
>
>  fontdir=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts
>  wfontdir=`cygpath -w $fontdir`
>  mount -bfs $wfontdir $fontdir 2> /dev/null || mount -bfu $wfontdir $fontdir
>
>IOW, create a system mount in binary mode on the font directory,
>disregarding any existing mount on the same place.  If the user is not
>allowed to create a system mount, create a user mount instead.
>
>This would break when there already is a user mount in text mode.
>That seems pretty unlikely, though.

This looks pretty good to me.

How about something like this, though:

  fontdir=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts
  wfontdir=`cygpath -w $fontdir`
  umount -u $fontdir 2>/dev/null
  mount -bfs $wfontdir $fontdir 2> /dev/null || mount -bfu $wfontdir $fontdir

Just to ensure that there is no user mount?

Btw, I like the use of the fontdir variable in this context.  It's a
little thing, but...

cgf


From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Fri Apr 19 19:03:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 19:03:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: <20020420015932.57897.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20020420015932.57897.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020420020340.GF28399@redhat.com>

And here it begins...

Cygwin/XFree86 has its own mailing list:  cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com.

If you want help you should ask the experts.

I've redirected this message there.

cgf

On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 03:59:32AM +0200, Sylvain Petreolle wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I wanted to update my existing Xfree86-4.2.0-1
>installation.
>So i choose a "default" Xfree86 installation.
>All files downloaded correct,
>and i was told that everything was ok.
>
>But at reboot,
>a 65497 bytes wininit.ini wants to rename/rewrite 627
>files, and no one is replaced (wininit.ini isn't even
>renamed to .bak)
>
>This damn thing makes windows write "Please wait while
>updating your configuration files..." every time
>I reboot if I don't rename the file.
>could the fact that wininit.ini is too big make it
>fail ?
>
>I'm running it under Windows Me.


From cgf@redhat.com  Fri Apr 19 19:12:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 19:12:00 -0000
Subject: Send an announcement to cygwin-announce?
Message-ID: <20020420021206.GA500@redhat.com>

Harold, do you want to send an announcement to cygwin-announce?

If so, I'd appreciate it if you'd pattern it on one of the announcements
that you find in the cygwin-announce archives, e.g., see below.

The important bit is to set Reply-To to cygwin-xfree and mention
cygwin-xfree in the announcement.

I'll set up a cygwin-xfree-announce in the next couple of days,
too.

Should there be a link to setup.exe on the Cygwin/XFree86 web page.

cgf
(who's so happy that this is part of the main installation now)

From: Harold Hunt 
To: cygwin-announce@cygwin.com
Subject: New package: XFree86 4.2.0
Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com

The XFree86 package developed by the Cygwin/XFree86 project is now
part of the standard distribution.  You can select it by clicking on
the XFree86 portion of the package selection after clicking on
the "Install Cygwin Now!" link at the main cygwin web page.

Blah, blah.

If you have questions or comments, please send them to the Cygwin
mailing list at: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com .  I would appreciate it if you
would use this mailing list rather than emailing me directly.

If you want to make a point or ask a question, the cygwin-xfree mailing
list is the appropriate place.

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From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr 19 19:47:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 19:47:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: <20020420020340.GF28399@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Robert,

Cygwin's setup.exe doesn't use wininit.ini, does it?  I'm going to guess
that the answer is something along the lines of "no way in hell", but I
figure I had better check with you.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 10:04 PM
> To: cygwin@cygwin.com
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
>
>
> And here it begins...
>
> Cygwin/XFree86 has its own mailing list:  cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com.
>
> If you want help you should ask the experts.
>
> I've redirected this message there.
>
> cgf
>
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 03:59:32AM +0200, Sylvain Petreolle wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I wanted to update my existing Xfree86-4.2.0-1
> >installation.
> >So i choose a "default" Xfree86 installation.
> >All files downloaded correct,
> >and i was told that everything was ok.
> >
> >But at reboot,
> >a 65497 bytes wininit.ini wants to rename/rewrite 627
> >files, and no one is replaced (wininit.ini isn't even
> >renamed to .bak)
> >
> >This damn thing makes windows write "Please wait while
> >updating your configuration files..." every time
> >I reboot if I don't rename the file.
> >could the fact that wininit.ini is too big make it
> >fail ?
> >
> >I'm running it under Windows Me.


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Fri Apr 19 19:56:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 19:56:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 12:47 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Cc: Robert Collins
> Subject: RE: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
> 
> 
> Robert,
> 
> Cygwin's setup.exe doesn't use wininit.ini, does it?  I'm 
> going to guess that the answer is something along the lines 
> of "no way in hell", but I figure I had better check with you.

It does, via the proscribed windows API to perform copy-on-reboot for
in-use files in win95.

Windows is meant to perform the copies before loading the GUI, and then
remove the ini entries after it does that.

If I could get some details - the /var/log/setup.log and setup.log.full,
and the machine layout (where windows cygwin etc are), and a copy of the
ineffective wininit.ini, I will see what I can figure out.

As to why this happened, I assume that the user was running X at the
same time as installing it via setup.exe.

Rob


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Fri Apr 19 19:56:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 19:56:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
References: 
Message-ID: <3CC0D991.4000203@ece.gatech.edu>

Robert Collins wrote:


>>>we have to make XFree86-base-src the package that contained the full 
>>>source archive.
>>>
>>Hmm.  Yes.  I think this would work.  That might be the best solution.
>>
>>In fact, it may be a nice trend setter.
>>
> 
> I think setup.exe needs a little work before doing this, but it's a good
> direction. (i.e. setup.exe should have a view to only show src packages,
> and a view to only show binaries - to avoid confusing folk). (Think
> apt-get source vs apt-get install).


How about my 'external-src: ' idea?

setup hint for XFree86-[anything but base]-...
   external-src: XFree86-base
setup hint for XFree86-base-
   

and both upset and setup will understand this and "do the right thing": 
upset needs to, for those pkgs with an external-src in their setup hint, 
find the -src tarball for the indicated package, whose VER-REL string 
matches the package-under-consideration, and put THAT into setup.hint, 
so (for the fonts "package") you get
   install: release/xfree/xfree86-fonts/XFree86-fonts-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2
   source: release/xfree/xfree86-base/XFree86-base-4.2.0-2-src.tar.bz2
[prev]
   install: release/xfree/xfree86-fonts/XFree86-fonts-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
   source: release/xfree/xfree86-base/XFree86-base-4.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2

Also, setup must do the following (even without new 'views' and whatnot)
   1) all XFree86-...- indicate that src is available (that is, 
'presence of a -src tarball' == 'no -src tarball but external-src: 
marker in setup.hint'
   2) clicking on any one (or multiple) of the 'src' checkboxes in setup 
will trigger a download (and only one download) of the actual 
XFree86-base-4.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2 package


---------
Later, we can get even fancier, and allow the specification of multiple 
-src packages...then the monolithic 'XFree86-base-4.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2' 
can be split into "the stuff that cygwin-xfree doesn't change" and "the 
stuff that changes frequently" (e.g. .../hw/xwin). e.g.

setup hint for XFree86-[anything but base]-...
   external-src: XFree86-base
setup hint for XFree86-base-
   
   extra-src: XFree86-base2

in release/xfree/xfree86-base/
   XFree86-base-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
   XFree86-base-4.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2
   XFree86-base2-4.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2

But that (or something like it) can be later....
---------

--Chuck

P.S.  Chris, where'd upset go?  the current version used to be in 
htdocs, but it's gone now.  AND, the old version which lived in 
cinstall/temp, is still there -- and you said you were going to remove it.

Did you remove the wrong one?




From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Fri Apr 19 20:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 20:00:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Wilson [mailto:cwilson@ece.gatech.edu] 
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 12:59 PM

> Also, setup must do the following (even without new 'views' 
> and whatnot)

Setup should already do that, why not make a test setup.ini and see what
happens :]. It's all data driven and there is no requirement for -src
packages to follow the same name as the base.

Rob


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Fri Apr 19 20:07:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 20:07:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
Message-ID: 

I realised the ini file was present in Sylvain's email.

Sylvain - do the .NEW files exist? Are the paths correct?


ROb


From cgf@redhat.com  Fri Apr 19 20:12:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 20:12:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: <3CC0D991.4000203@ece.gatech.edu>
References:  <3CC0D991.4000203@ece.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <20020420031238.GA1544@redhat.com>

On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 10:59:29PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote:
>P.S.  Chris, where'd upset go?  the current version used to be in 
>htdocs, but it's gone now.  AND, the old version which lived in 
>cinstall/temp, is still there -- and you said you were going to remove it.

http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2002-02/msg00028.html

cinstall/temp is an empty directory.

>Did you remove the wrong one?

Nope.

upset2 is gone now, though.  It is now 'upset'.

cgf


From spetreolle@yahoo.fr  Fri Apr 19 21:08:00 2002
From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 21:08:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020420040759.46533.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com>

> It does, via the proscribed windows API to perform
> copy-on-reboot for
> in-use files in win95.
> Windows is meant to perform the copies before
> loading the GUI, and then
> remove the ini entries after it does that.
Already know this (I develop for Wine Emulator :))
But that's ok to review point after point to see a
failure somewhere.
> 
> If I could get some details - the /var/log/setup.log
> and setup.log.full, and the machine layout (where
windows cygwin etc
> are), and a copy of the
> ineffective wininit.ini, I will see what I can
> figure out.
Ok, I attached them.

cygcheck -s -r -v follows separately (Yahoo doesn't
allow >3 attachments per message).

> 
> As to why this happened, I assume that the user was
> running X at the
> same time as installing it via setup.exe.
> 
> Rob 
I just updated Cygwin via typing
http://www.cygwin.com/setup.exe in IE 6.

Cygwin-X wasn't running at the time.
Even Cygwin itself wasn't running.


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From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 21:10:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: 
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As I wrote in last message, I attached output of
cygcheck.


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From spetreolle@yahoo.fr  Fri Apr 19 21:15:00 2002
From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 21:15:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020420041507.47731.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com>

 --- Robert Collins  a
??crit??: > I realised the ini file was present in
Sylvain's
> email.
> 
> Sylvain - do the .NEW files exist? Are the paths
> correct?
> 
> 
> ROb 
Yes, I checked for some of these, the .new exists in
the correct paths (checked in dos box too to see if
8.3
names are correct, and they are).

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From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Fri Apr 19 21:22:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 21:22:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sylvain Petreolle [mailto:spetreolle@yahoo.fr] 
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 2:15 PM

> Yes, I checked for some of these, the .new exists in
> the correct paths (checked in dos box too to see if
> 8.3
> names are correct, and they are).

Hmm. What happens if you supply a (say) 16Kb subset of the wininit.ini
file to windows ME - does it process it correctly?

Rob


From Shaddy.Baddah@myrealbox.com  Sat Apr 20 04:02:00 2002
From: Shaddy.Baddah@myrealbox.com (Shaddy Baddah)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 04:02:00 -0000
Subject: Extract.exe source code
Message-ID: <001201c1e85b$35b16250$0100a8c0@TOKYO>

Can someone assure me that the source for extract.exe is included in the
cygwin-xfree source code before I pull it down? I have the archived binary
distribution of cygwin-xfree 4.1.0, but I didn't hold on to the extract.exe
when I archived these. Now, unfortunately, the extract.exe available appears
to have been built to a new version of the cygwin.dll (as appears to have
the entire distribution. The way this is done doesn't seem to be tracked
very well), and as you can tell, I do not have broadband access to upgrade
my Cygwin distribution.

If someone has an extract.exe that will work with the a Cygwin distribution
for the following system, could they point me to where I could get it?


$ uname -a
CYGWIN_NT-5.0 TOKYO 1.1.8(0.34/3/2) 2001-01-31 10:08 i686 unknown


Thanks in advance,
Shaddy


From spetreolle@yahoo.fr  Sat Apr 20 05:51:00 2002
From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 05:51:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020420125152.18819.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com>

 --- Robert Collins  a
??crit??: > 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sylvain Petreolle
> [mailto:spetreolle@yahoo.fr] 
> > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 2:15 PM
> 
> > Yes, I checked for some of these, the .new exists
> in
> > the correct paths (checked in dos box too to see
> if
> > 8.3
> > names are correct, and they are).
> 
> Hmm. What happens if you supply a (say) 16Kb subset
> of the wininit.ini
> file to windows ME - does it process it correctly?
> 
> Rob 

Hi Rob,

Renaming is done - but now renamed file haved 8.3
names with ~ and are unusable, I think, by X,
since names are incorrect - too bad.

Nom@SNOOP /etc/X11/app-defaults
$ ls
BITMAP    EDITRE~1  XCLOCK    XEDIT-~1  XLOGO-~1  XSM
BITMAP~1  VIEWRES   XCONSOLE  XFD       XMAG     
XTerm
CHOOSER   XCALC     XDITVIEW  XFONTSEL  XMAN     
XTerm-color
CLOCK-~1  XCALC-~1  XDITVI~1  XGC       XMESSAGE 
XVIDTUNE
EDITRES   XCLIPB~1  XEDIT     XLOGO     XMH



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From cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Sat Apr 20 09:45:00 2002
From: cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 09:45:00 -0000
Subject: Extract.exe source code
In-Reply-To: <001201c1e85b$35b16250$0100a8c0@TOKYO>
References: <001201c1e85b$35b16250$0100a8c0@TOKYO>
Message-ID: <20020420164520.GA6480@redhat.com>

On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 09:03:44PM +1000, Shaddy Baddah wrote:
>Can someone assure me that the source for extract.exe is included in the
>cygwin-xfree source code before I pull it down? I have the archived binary
>distribution of cygwin-xfree 4.1.0, but I didn't hold on to the extract.exe
>when I archived these. Now, unfortunately, the extract.exe available appears
>to have been built to a new version of the cygwin.dll (as appears to have
>the entire distribution. The way this is done doesn't seem to be tracked
>very well), and as you can tell, I do not have broadband access to upgrade
>my Cygwin distribution.

The cygwin DLL part of the distribution is 896850 bytes.  I suggest that you
start the install and go get a cup of coffee.  Even at modem speeds, it won't
take that long to download.

It's also very possible that extract.exe will work fine no matter what version
of the DLL you're using.  If it doesn't work, then it will be very obvious right
away -- you'll get a dialog box telling you something is wrong.

cgf

>If someone has an extract.exe that will work with the a Cygwin distribution
>for the following system, could they point me to where I could get it?
>
>
>$ uname -a
>CYGWIN_NT-5.0 TOKYO 1.1.8(0.34/3/2) 2001-01-31 10:08 i686 unknown
>
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Shaddy


From cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Sat Apr 20 09:48:00 2002
From: cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 09:48:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: <20020420040759.46533.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com>
References:  <20020420040759.46533.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020420164808.GA6535@redhat.com>

On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 06:07:58AM +0200, Sylvain Petreolle wrote:
>>It does, via the proscribed windows API to perform copy-on-reboot for
>>in-use files in win95.  Windows is meant to perform the copies before
>>loading the GUI, and then remove the ini entries after it does that.
>
>Already know this (I develop for Wine Emulator :)) But that's ok to
>review point after point to see a failure somewhere.

So, you are reporting this problem for an actual version of Windows,
then, i.e., you're not trying to run setup.exe on Wine, right?

cgf


From perryh@pluto.rain.com  Sat Apr 20 15:00:00 2002
From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 15:00:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
Message-ID: <10204202151.AA04453@pluto.rain.com>

Finally getting back to this after a very busy week.

> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/
> 
> The User's Guide tells you how to install Cygwin/XFree86, including the
> startup batch files and shell scripts.  I can guarantee that you will not be
> successful in installing Cygwin/XFree86 until you follow those instructions.

Got it.  It turns out I had muddled through steps 1-5, but not 6-8.

I have now extracted the startup scripts, and subsequently tried all
3 startup methods from Chapter 4, without success.  There seems to be
some kind of problem in getting the X server to start.

startxwin.bat in a command window says

    startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows 95/98/Me

then a window titled xterm appears.  After a few seconds a window
titled twm appears, then both close.  After a few more seconds this
appears in the command window, followed by the command prompt:

    /USR/X11R6/BIN/XSETROOT: unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0'

startxwin.sh in a bash window says

    X connection to 127.0.0.1:0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).

and the prompt appears, followed a few seconds later by this message:

    xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0

startx in a bash window says

    xinit: not found


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sat Apr 20 15:15:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 15:15:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
In-Reply-To: <10204202151.AA04453@pluto.rain.com>
Message-ID: 

Perry,

Take a look at /tmp/XWin.log... my suspicion is that you goofed on
installing the fonts.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Perry Hutchison
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 5:51 PM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: How do I run it?
>
>
> Finally getting back to this after a very busy week.
>
> > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/
> >
> > The User's Guide tells you how to install Cygwin/XFree86, including the
> > startup batch files and shell scripts.  I can guarantee that
> you will not be
> > successful in installing Cygwin/XFree86 until you follow those
> instructions.
>
> Got it.  It turns out I had muddled through steps 1-5, but not 6-8.
>
> I have now extracted the startup scripts, and subsequently tried all
> 3 startup methods from Chapter 4, without success.  There seems to be
> some kind of problem in getting the X server to start.
>
> startxwin.bat in a command window says
>
>     startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows 95/98/Me
>
> then a window titled xterm appears.  After a few seconds a window
> titled twm appears, then both close.  After a few more seconds this
> appears in the command window, followed by the command prompt:
>
>     /USR/X11R6/BIN/XSETROOT: unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0'
>
> startxwin.sh in a bash window says
>
>     X connection to 127.0.0.1:0.0 broken (explicit kill or server
> shutdown).
>
> and the prompt appears, followed a few seconds later by this message:
>
>     xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0
>
> startx in a bash window says
>
>     xinit: not found
>


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Sat Apr 20 15:30:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 15:30:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
References: 
Message-ID: <3CC1ECB5.9030706@ece.gatech.edu>



Robert Collins wrote:

> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Charles Wilson [mailto:cwilson@ece.gatech.edu] 
>>Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 12:59 PM
>>
> 
>>Also, setup must do the following (even without new 'views' 
>>and whatnot)
>>
> 
> Setup should already do that, why not make a test setup.ini and see what
> happens :]. It's all data driven and there is no requirement for -src
> packages to follow the same name as the base.

Whaddaya know.  It works.  point setup.exe here:

http://www.neuro.gatech.edu/users/cwilson/cygutils/testing/

There are 3 packages, bob, bobx, and boby.  only bob has a -src package, 
the other two have source: lines that explicitly specify bob's source 
package.

It seems to work perfectly -- with only a single niggle:

if you select the source for more than one of [bob|bobx|boby], then it 
is downloaded only once (good) but is unpacked three times.  This isn't 
a terrible thing, but it is a waste of effort....

If you play around with this, you can clean up by uninstalling the 
"binary" packages, and deleting the file /usr/src/bob.file.src.  (Or, 
you can delete /bob.file, /bobx.file, /boby.file, and 
/usr/src/bob.file.src, and remove the bob, bobx, and boby entries from 
/etc/setup/installed.db)

So, except for the niggle above, if upset were modified to allow the 
external-src: keyword, then multiple-binary-packages from one -src 
package would work!  (and the niggle isn't a show stopper).

--Chuck



From cgf@redhat.com  Sat Apr 20 15:57:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 15:57:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <20020410015334.GO23551@redhat.com>
References:  <3CB396A5.1070803@znark.com> <20020410015334.GO23551@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20020420225701.GA10168@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:53:34PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 06:34:29PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
>>Is the script for building setup.ini files from a directory hierarchy 
>>available anywhere? I want to setup a test install directory with the 
>>full hierarchy and setup.hint files.
>>
>>Also, I ran into a problem with the xfree-fonts-100dpi and 
>>xfree-fonts-75dpi packages. With a hand-generated setup.ini, they 
>>weren't being displayed. This might be because the last component starts 
>>with a number and something is confused about where the version starts. 
>
>Yes, a -75dpi part of a tar file will look like a version number.
>
>Can you use an underscore instead?

Btw, the new version of 'upset' does the right thing with things like this.
If you have a directory called 'XFree86-fonts-100dpi' it will no longer
assume that 100dpi is part of the version string.  It just uses the directory
name as a prefix for the .tar.bz2 files.

cgf


From perryh@pluto.rain.com  Sat Apr 20 16:12:00 2002
From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 16:12:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
Message-ID: <10204202312.AA05219@pluto.rain.com>

> Take a look at /tmp/XWin.log... my suspicion is that you goofed on
> installing the fonts.

No font complaints, but it evidently won't run with the "standard VGA"
display driver.  /tmp/XWin.log says:

winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 640 h 480
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw not installed
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow GDI DIB
winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI () - Using Windows display depth of 1 bits per pixel
winScreenInit () - Unsupported display depth: 1
Change your Windows display depth to 15, 16, 24, or 32 bits per pixel.
winScreenInit () - Supported depths: 8080c080

Fatal server error:
Couldn't add screen 0


but the only choices available in display properties are 16-color
(selected) and monochrome.  Time to drag out the Win 95 CD and see
what might work with a Trident TGUI9440-3


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sat Apr 20 16:59:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 16:59:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
In-Reply-To: <10204202312.AA05219@pluto.rain.com>
Message-ID: 

Perry,


I don't know that the Windows 95 CD will be of help, but I found Trident's
page for the card:
http://www.tridentmicro.com/drivers/download/tgui9440.html

The Windows 95 driver is here:
http://www.tridentmicro.com/drivers/download/tgui_tvga/w95-9440.exe

Hope that helps.  Let me know if this fixes the problem.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Perry Hutchison [mailto:perryh@pluto.rain.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 7:12 PM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: How do I run it?
>
>
> > Take a look at /tmp/XWin.log... my suspicion is that you goofed on
> > installing the fonts.
>
> No font complaints, but it evidently won't run with the "standard VGA"
> display driver.  /tmp/XWin.log says:
>
> winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 640 h 480
> _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw not installed
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow GDI DIB
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI () - Using Windows display depth of 1
> bits per pixel
> winScreenInit () - Unsupported display depth: 1
> Change your Windows display depth to 15, 16, 24, or 32 bits per pixel.
> winScreenInit () - Supported depths: 8080c080
>
> Fatal server error:
> Couldn't add screen 0
>
>
> but the only choices available in display properties are 16-color
> (selected) and monochrome.  Time to drag out the Win 95 CD and see
> what might work with a Trident TGUI9440-3
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sat Apr 20 17:01:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 17:01:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <20020420225701.GA10168@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Chris,

> Btw, the new version of 'upset' does the right thing with things
> like this.
> If you have a directory called 'XFree86-fonts-100dpi' it will no longer
> assume that 100dpi is part of the version string.  It just uses
> the directory
> name as a prefix for the .tar.bz2 files.

That's good for completeness.  But I am a stickler for tradition, so I stuck
with the old -f100 package name in that case. :)

Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sat Apr 20 18:24:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 18:24:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: <20020420125152.18819.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

Robert,

> > Hmm. What happens if you supply a (say) 16Kb subset
> > of the wininit.ini
> > file to windows ME - does it process it correctly?
> >
> > Rob
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> Renaming is done - but now renamed file haved 8.3
> names with ~ and are unusable, I think, by X,
> since names are incorrect - too bad.


What's your prognosis on this?  Is this a problem that is specific to
Sylvain's machine or is this going to be a problem because Cygwin/XFree86
has over 4000 files in the font directories?

Is there some limit to the allowed size of wininit.ini, or did you suggest
testing a subset simply to see if one of the commands in the latter part of
the file was invalid?

Basically: do we need to pull the Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe release for now,
or can I go on with making changes to the web page, etc to announce the
release?

Harold


From cgf@redhat.com  Sat Apr 20 19:56:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 19:56:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020420225701.GA10168@redhat.com> 
Message-ID: <20020421025555.GD9745@redhat.com>

On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 08:01:12PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>>Btw, the new version of 'upset' does the right thing with things like
>>this.  If you have a directory called 'XFree86-fonts-100dpi' it will no
>>longer assume that 100dpi is part of the version string.  It just uses
>>the directory name as a prefix for the .tar.bz2 files.
>
>That's good for completeness.  But I am a stickler for tradition, so I
>stuck with the old -f100 package name in that case.  :)

That's fine.  I was just mentioning this for the archives.  I think that
the new 'upset' behavior allows a lot more flexibility in naming.

cgf


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Sat Apr 20 19:59:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 19:59:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 11:25 AM
> To: Sylvain Petreolle; Robert Collins; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
> 
> 
> Robert,
> 
> > > Hmm. What happens if you supply a (say) 16Kb subset
> > > of the wininit.ini
> > > file to windows ME - does it process it correctly?
> > >
> > > Rob
> >
> > Hi Rob,
> >
> > Renaming is done - but now renamed file haved 8.3
> > names with ~ and are unusable, I think, by X,
> > since names are incorrect - too bad.
> 
> 
> What's your prognosis on this?  Is this a problem that is 
> specific to Sylvain's machine or is this going to be a 
> problem because Cygwin/XFree86 has over 4000 files in the 
> font directories?

I haven't come to a root cause yet.
 
> Is there some limit to the allowed size of wininit.ini, or 
> did you suggest testing a subset simply to see if one of the 
> commands in the latter part of the file was invalid?

The wininit.ini size seems to be a problem. I'm not sure how to solve
that though - we are using the windows API to create it, but somehow I
don't think MS will fix it :[.
 
> Basically: do we need to pull the Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe 
> release for now, or can I go on with making changes to the 
> web page, etc to announce the release?

No need to pull it IMO.

Rob


From cgf@redhat.com  Sat Apr 20 20:14:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 20:14:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020421031430.GE9745@redhat.com>

On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 12:59:26PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
>> What's your prognosis on this?  Is this a problem that is 
>> specific to Sylvain's machine or is this going to be a 
>> problem because Cygwin/XFree86 has over 4000 files in the 
>> font directories?
>
>I haven't come to a root cause yet.

Have you actually duplicated the problem, Robert?

Maybe I've missed something but I don't think I've seen an indication
that this isn't just a Wine problem.

cgf 


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Sat Apr 20 20:15:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 20:15:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:cgf@redhat.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 1:15 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 12:59:26PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> >> What's your prognosis on this?  Is this a problem that is
> >> specific to Sylvain's machine or is this going to be a 
> >> problem because Cygwin/XFree86 has over 4000 files in the 
> >> font directories?
> >
> >I haven't come to a root cause yet.
> 
> Have you actually duplicated the problem, Robert?
> 
> Maybe I've missed something but I don't think I've seen an 
> indication that this isn't just a Wine problem.

The user reported the problem as being under Windows ME.

Rob


From perryh@pluto.rain.com  Sat Apr 20 22:00:00 2002
From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 22:00:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
Message-ID: <10204210458.AA07123@pluto.rain.com>

> I don't know that the Windows 95 CD will be of help, but
> I found Trident's page for the card:
> http://www.tridentmicro.com/drivers/download/tgui9440.html
> 
> The Windows 95 driver is here:
> http://www.tridentmicro.com/drivers/download/tgui_tvga/w95-9440.exe
> 
> Hope that helps.  Let me know if this fixes the problem.

Yes, that fixes it.  The "Trident SVGA" driver on the original Windows
95 (OSR2) CD works after a fashion, but the version 4.something from
this download is considerably better.  I was amazed to discover that
the ancient unknown-origin monitor I've been using handles 1024x768
with no trouble :)

I've still got some xauth issues to work through when connecting
from other hosts, but that's generic X rather than CygWin/XFree.

Now to track down a CygWin port of fvwm2 ...


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Sat Apr 20 22:24:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 22:24:00 -0000
Subject: open-file replacements with win9x
Message-ID: 

We've got a problem folks:

>From MSDN

===
To rename or delete a file on Windows 95/98/Me 

Check for the existence of the WININIT.INI file in the Windows
directory. 
If WININIT.INI exists, open it and add new entries to the existing
[rename] section. If the file does not exist, create the file and create
a [rename] section. 
Add lines of the following format to the [rename] section: 
DestinationFileName=SourceFileName
Both DestinationFileName and SourceFileName must be short file names. To
delete a file, use NUL as the value for DestinationFileName. 
===

Note that both files must be shortnames. I had _assumed_ that the OS
would preserve the attached long file name. But (as the list records
show)... I had not been able to test it to see that this was indeed the
behaviour we would get.

If anyone with a 16 bit windows box out there has the time to do some
test cases and see if my assumption was wrong, or if the current
reported case was a fluke that went wrong, that would be great.

As to _why_ 600 odd files needed replacing, I've yet to look closely at
that aspect.

Rob


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Sat Apr 20 23:47:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 23:47:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Wilson [mailto:cwilson@ece.gatech.edu] 
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 8:33 AM

>if you select the source for more than one of [bob|bobx|boby], then it 
>is downloaded only once (good) but is unpacked three times.  This isn't

>a terrible thing, but it is a waste of effort....

This won't change anytime soon. Long term we'll have the concept of a
source package - as opposed to a src attribute of an existing package.
This will require setup.ini changes to represent properly, so I want all
the kinks out first...

Rob


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Sun Apr 21 00:06:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 00:06:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
References: 
Message-ID: <3CC26570.6090302@ece.gatech.edu>

Robert Collins wrote:

> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Charles Wilson [mailto:cwilson@ece.gatech.edu] 
>>Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 8:33 AM
>>
> 
>>if you select the source for more than one of [bob|bobx|boby], then it 
>>is downloaded only once (good) but is unpacked three times.  This isn't
>>
> 
>>a terrible thing, but it is a waste of effort....
>>
> 
> This won't change anytime soon. Long term we'll have the concept of a
> source package - as opposed to a src attribute of an existing package.
> This will require setup.ini changes to represent properly, so I want all
> the kinks out first...


Like I said, NOT a showstopper.  you ONLY see this behavior if you click 
the src checkbox for multiple packages that all share the same source. 
It's only downloaded once.  When setup is done, you have the source. 
Behind the scenes, that source package gets installed multiple times. 
Big deal.

IMO, if upset gets the ability to do the right thing with an 
'external-src:' directive in setup.hint, then everything necessary for 
multiple-bin/single-src packages would be in place.

--Chuck


--Chuck



From spetreolle@yahoo.fr  Sun Apr 21 10:41:00 2002
From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 10:41:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: <20020420164808.GA6535@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20020421174147.26702.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com>

> >Already know this (I develop for Wine Emulator :))
> But that's ok to
> >review point after point to see a failure
> somewhere.
> 
> So, you are reporting this problem for an actual
> version of Windows,
> then, i.e., you're not trying to run setup.exe on
> Wine, right?
> 
> cgf
No, it's a real Windows :)
I'm having these problems on my own workstation.
I'm afraid kde-cygwin 2.2.1-alpha has no setup.ini at
this time, this would be great :=).


Off-topic :

Think that Wine doesn't need wininit to function :
every file can be overwritten even if in use
and wininit has a replacement because it doesn't
function (it reports that it cannot be launched from 
Windows)

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From goldin+@pitt.edu  Sun Apr 21 11:00:00 2002
From: goldin+@pitt.edu (Ilya Goldin)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 11:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
References: <20020420125152.18819.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com> 
Message-ID: 

"Harold Hunt"  wrote in message
news:NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCCECFCNAA.huntharo@msu.edu...
> Basically: do we need to pull the Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe release for
now,
> or can I go on with making changes to the web page, etc to announce the
> release?


Personal experience: I installed Xfree via the new setup.exe routine over an
existing 4.2.0 installation. At the time, I was running rxvt and openssh,
but not running Xfree. Cygwin warned me I'd have to restart to replace
files.

When I restarted, Win2K (which is what I'm running here, with all the latest
patches), got stuck at the end of its second start-up screen (the first one
is text-mode, the second one has the pretty W2K logo and a blue progress
indicator). I could see my HD light blinking, and the PC was obviously doing
something, but it remained "stuck" on this screen for several minutes. This
repeated after a hard reset (couldn't do a soft one). Ultimately, I had to
boot into the F8-on-startup screen, and go with "last known good config".
Only that got me back into W2K. (I was getting pretty worried by this time!)

Having read the list since, I surmise that the WININIT.INI routine was
replacing files during that start-up screen delay, but it took so
ridiculously long (on a Pentium II 400, w/ 256 RAM), that I had to do
several hard restarts to get anywhere, and ended up aborting that procedure
anyway. (After which I deleted my entire Cygwin setup and reinstalled from
scratch.)

Notes from the field,
ig
P.S. I guess the other burning question is why did setup.exe decide that it
couldn't overwrite the Xfree files even though Xfree wasn't in use?

-- Ilya Goldin 





From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Apr 21 12:15:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 12:15:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Ilya,

Very interesting.

On Windows NT 3.1, 4.0, Windows 2000, and (I believe) Windows XP you don't
use the wininit.ini approach.  There is a new function (only about 8 years
old now) called MoveFileEx that can be passed the flag
MOVEFILE_DELAY_UNTIL_REBOOT which stores a list of files to be moved upon
reboot in the registry at:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session
Manager\PendingFileRenameOperations


Robert may want to comment on whether this method is used or not in
setup.exe.

In any case the list of files to move could contain several thousand entries
if the XFree86 fonts packages are to be replaced upon reboot.  This would
take several minutes to move.  It was probably not a good thing that you
aborted this process... my guess is that it would have completed
successfully in ten to twenty minutes :)

> P.S. I guess the other burning question is why did setup.exe
> decide that it
> couldn't overwrite the Xfree files even though Xfree wasn't in use?

Think about your programmatic options here.  You are trying to determine if
the files in the XFree86 packages are being used, so you can:

1) Assume that if cygwin1.dll is being used then *all* packages are being
used.  When cygwin1.dll is not being used this allows you to install each
file with a single function call (i.e. MoveFile).  However, when cygwin1.dll
is being used you have to either use wininit.ini or use MoveFileEx with
MOVEFILE_DELAY_UNTIL_REBOOT for every single file.

2) Attempt to move each file individually; upon failure, add the file to the
wininit.ini list or call MoveFileEx with MOVEFILE_DELAY_UNTIL_REBOOT.
You've got a problem here: what if a program opens a file, reads part of it,
closes the file, then opens it again later and resumes reading where it left
off?  You're going to get into trouble if you replace such a file out from
under a running process.  On the other hand, Linux seems to think that this
is allowable, as Linux lets you overwrite any file, regardless of whether it
is being used.  The main problem with this method is that for every file
that is being used (could be thousands) you have to make two functions calls
instead of just one (one to find out it is being used, one to add it to the
list of files to replace upon reboot).


I'm guessing that Cygwin's setup.exe uses a method similar to the method I
described in (1), but I'll wait for Robert to comment on this.  Perhaps
Cygwin's setup.exe should consider using a method similar to (2), if it
doesn't already.

In related news: I think I'm going to hold off on making any wide-spread
announcements about Cygwin/XFree86 being available via setup.exe.  I'm not
comfortable with the installation process causing several minute delays in
starting the PC and in the possibility of the wininit.ini becoming too large
or not preserving long filenames.


Harold


> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ilya Goldin
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 1:52 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
>
>
> "Harold Hunt"  wrote in message
> news:NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCCECFCNAA.huntharo@msu.edu...
> > Basically: do we need to pull the Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe release for
> now,
> > or can I go on with making changes to the web page, etc to announce the
> > release?
>
>
> Personal experience: I installed Xfree via the new setup.exe
> routine over an
> existing 4.2.0 installation. At the time, I was running rxvt and openssh,
> but not running Xfree. Cygwin warned me I'd have to restart to replace
> files.
>
> When I restarted, Win2K (which is what I'm running here, with all
> the latest
> patches), got stuck at the end of its second start-up screen (the
> first one
> is text-mode, the second one has the pretty W2K logo and a blue progress
> indicator). I could see my HD light blinking, and the PC was
> obviously doing
> something, but it remained "stuck" on this screen for several
> minutes. This
> repeated after a hard reset (couldn't do a soft one). Ultimately, I had to
> boot into the F8-on-startup screen, and go with "last known good config".
> Only that got me back into W2K. (I was getting pretty worried by
> this time!)
>
> Having read the list since, I surmise that the WININIT.INI routine was
> replacing files during that start-up screen delay, but it took so
> ridiculously long (on a Pentium II 400, w/ 256 RAM), that I had to do
> several hard restarts to get anywhere, and ended up aborting that
> procedure
> anyway. (After which I deleted my entire Cygwin setup and reinstalled from
> scratch.)
>
> Notes from the field,
> ig
> P.S. I guess the other burning question is why did setup.exe
> decide that it
> couldn't overwrite the Xfree files even though Xfree wasn't in use?
>
> -- Ilya Goldin 
>
>
>
>


From cgf@redhat.com  Sun Apr 21 14:27:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 14:27:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
Message-ID: <20020421212726.GD1121@redhat.com>

On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 03:15:05PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>In related news: I think I'm going to hold off on making any wide-spread
>announcements about Cygwin/XFree86 being available via setup.exe.  I'm not
>comfortable with the installation process causing several minute delays in
>starting the PC and in the possibility of the wininit.ini becoming too large
>or not preserving long filenames.

FWIW, I agree.  We don't want a flood of requests from people reporting
problems.

cgf


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Sun Apr 21 16:23:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 16:23:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ilya Goldin [mailto:goldin+@pitt.edu] 
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 3:52 AM

> When I restarted, Win2K (which is what I'm running here, with 
> all the latest patches), got stuck at the end of its second 
...

> Having read the list since, I surmise that the WININIT.INI 

There is no WININIT.INI on NT. There is an equivalent on-boot process
however.

> P.S. I guess the other burning question is why did setup.exe 
> decide that it couldn't overwrite the Xfree files even though 
> Xfree wasn't in use?

Send in your /var/logs/setup.log.full and /var/logs/setup.log and I'll
see what I can tell you.

Rob


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Sun Apr 21 16:29:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 16:29:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 5:15 AM

> Robert may want to comment on whether this method is used or 
> not in setup.exe.

It is. Long file names are used there as well. Works like a dream.
 
> 2) Attempt to move each file individually; upon failure, add 

This is what we do. If an app is performing open-read-close on lots of
small files and we collide, well uhmm, oops.
 
> I'm guessing that Cygwin's setup.exe uses a method similar to 
> the method I described in (1), but I'll wait for Robert to 
> comment on this.  Perhaps Cygwin's setup.exe should consider 
> using a method similar to (2), if it doesn't already.
> 
> In related news: I think I'm going to hold off on making any 
> wide-spread announcements about Cygwin/XFree86 being 
> available via setup.exe.  I'm not comfortable with the 
> installation process causing several minute delays in 
> starting the PC and in the possibility of the wininit.ini 
> becoming too large or not preserving long filenames.

Ok. I'm not sure what we can do about it on win9x though. Maybe we just
want to fail noisily?

Rob


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 22 19:36:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 19:36:00 -0000
Subject: KDE no icons: The problem only happens in 32 bit color mode and more information
Message-ID: 

THE REASON I NEED HELP FROM KDE FOLKS IS THAT THIS PROBLEM DID NOT HAPPEN
WITH KDE 2.X AND CYGWIN/XFREE86


I need someone that is familiar with how the icons are displayed in KDE to
tell me why our pixmap and visual formats were ok with KDE 2.X but not with
KDE 3.0.


Selected 'xdypinfo' output follows at the bottom of the email for
Cygwin/XFree86 and a comparison server running in 32 bit mode.


The problem of no icons being display only happens in 32 bit color mode and
it appears to be due to the way that our visual or pixmaps are setup.

It seems that there is a problem in either or both of:

1) The way the Cygwin/XFree86 pixmap formats are defined, specifically the
fact that we have both depth 24, bits_per_pixel 24 pixmap and a depth 32,
bits_per_pixel 32 pixmaps.  This is compared to XVisions's depth 24,
bits_per_pixel 32 pixmap.

2) The fact that our visual has depth '32 planes' at 32 bits per pixel
compared to XVision's '24 planes' at 32 bits per pixel.


I have tried altering our pixmap formats to be similar to XVision's with no
success.  I tried all combinations of 24 and 32 bits for the two values,
just to be thorough.  Our pixmap definitions are right at the top of
http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/InitOutput.c

I have tried altering our call to miSetVisualTypesAndMasks in
http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winshadddnl.c
to pass '24' as the depth when the screen depth is actually 32.

I have also passed 24 to fbSetupScreen and fbFinishScreenInit in our
winFinishScreenInitFB function in
http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winscrinit.c
to no avail.


The general result of any of these modifications is that the server crashes
on startup or the visual type hasn't actually changed.


That's all for now,

Harold Hunt
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/





Cygwin/XFree86 running at 32 bits per pixel:
============================================
bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    32, LSBFirst, 32
image byte order:    LSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats:    7
supported pixmap formats:
     depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
     depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
     depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
     depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
     depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
     depth 24, bits_per_pixel 24, scanline_pad 32
     depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
   visual:
     visual id:    0x22
     class:    TrueColor
     depth:    32 planes
     available colormap entries:    2048 per subfield
     red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
     significant bits in color specification:    8 bits


XVision running at 32 bits per pixel:
=====================================
bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    8, MSBFirst, 16
image byte order:    MSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats:    2
supported pixmap formats:
     depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 16
     depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
   visual:
     visual id:    0x20
     class:    TrueColor
     depth:    24 planes
     available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
     red, green, blue masks:    0xff, 0xff00, 0xff0000
     significant bits in color specification:    8 bits


From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Mon Apr 22 21:01:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 21:01:00 -0000
Subject: New xfree install: twm doesn't work
Message-ID: 

I just installed xfree with the new setup program, and I foung that twm
doesn't work - it complains that some lib dll file is missing. Has
anyone else had problems with twm with the new install?

Thanks for any help
Lars.

--
Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 22 21:07:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 21:07:00 -0000
Subject: New xfree install: twm doesn't work
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Lars,

Did you install overtop of you existing Cygwin/XFree86 installation, or did
you move /usr/X11R6 and /etc/X11 out of the way before installing via
setup.exe?

For the record, twm worked fine during my testing of the setup.exe
installation method.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:51 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: New xfree install: twm doesn't work
>
>
> I just installed xfree with the new setup program, and I foung that twm
> doesn't work - it complains that some lib dll file is missing. Has
> anyone else had problems with twm with the new install?
>
> Thanks for any help
> Lars.
>
> --
> Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
>


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Tue Apr 23 04:37:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 04:37:00 -0000
Subject: New xfree install: twm doesn't work
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Lars Jensen wrote:

> I just installed xfree with the new setup program, and I foung that twm
> doesn't work - it complains that some lib dll file is missing. Has
> anyone else had problems with twm with the new install?

Which dll?

bye
	ago
-- 
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 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017


From jdrash@eesus.jnj.com  Tue Apr 23 12:00:00 2002
From: jdrash@eesus.jnj.com (jdrash)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 12:00:00 -0000
Subject: Kudos to all for the new XFree86 packages
Message-ID: 

You all have done a tremendous job in 1) making a Windows X-Windows server
with real performance and 2) now installable via the Cygwin set program!!

Let me extend a Laurel and Hardy handshake (apologies to Mel Brooks) to
all involved

jim drash



From jdrash@eesus.jnj.com  Tue Apr 23 12:05:00 2002
From: jdrash@eesus.jnj.com (jdrash)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 12:05:00 -0000
Subject: Kudos message
Message-ID: 

smal typo: "set program" should be "setup program".  Sorry, brain moves
quicker than fingers (or maybe the other way 'round)



From thesnake1978@yahoo.com  Tue Apr 23 21:49:00 2002
From: thesnake1978@yahoo.com (Peter None)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 21:49:00 -0000
Subject: Error Installing imlib 1.9.14
Message-ID: <20020424044950.25700.qmail@web14309.mail.yahoo.com>

Whilst installing this package, I get this configure
error: *** TIFF Library not found ***
I've installed ImageMagick-5.4.4 which seems to have
gone fine.
Below is the contents of the configure log.

Any help finding a solution would be fantastic.

Thank You.

----------------------

This file contains any messages produced by compilers
while
running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes
a mistake.

configure:750: checking for a BSD compatible install
configure:803: checking whether build environment is
sane
configure:860: checking whether make sets ${MAKE}
configure:906: checking for working aclocal
configure:919: checking for working autoconf
configure:932: checking for working automake
configure:945: checking for working autoheader
configure:958: checking for working makeinfo
configure:974: checking for gcc
configure:1087: checking whether the C compiler (gcc
-O2 ) works
configure:1103: gcc -o conftest -O2   conftest.c  1>&5
configure:1129: checking whether the C compiler (gcc
-O2 ) is a cross-compiler
configure:1134: checking whether we are using GNU C
configure:1162: checking whether gcc accepts -g
configure:1205: checking for Cygwin environment
configure:1238: checking for mingw32 environment
configure:1267: checking how to run the C preprocessor
configure:1422: checking host system type
configure:1443: checking build system type
configure:1472: checking for ld used by GCC
configure:1540: checking if the linker
(/usr/i686-pc-cygwin/bin/ld.exe) is GNU ld
configure:1557: checking for
/usr/i686-pc-cygwin/bin/ld.exe option to reload object
files
configure:1569: checking for BSD-compatible nm
configure:1607: checking whether ln -s works
configure:1628: checking how to recognise dependant
libraries
configure:1805: checking for object suffix
configure:1831: checking for executable suffix
configure:1872: checking command to parse /bin/nm -B
output
configure:2055: checking for dlfcn.h
configure:2233: checking for ranlib
configure:2300: checking for strip
configure:2543: checking for objdir
configure:2570: checking for gcc option to produce PIC
configure:2722: checking if gcc PIC flag  -DDLL_EXPORT
works
configure:2788: checking if gcc static flag -static
works
configure:2830: checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o
configure:2878: checking if gcc supports -c -o file.lo
configure:2946: checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti
-fno-exceptions
configure:2959: gcc -c -O2 -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions
-c conftest.c  conftest.c 1>&5
configure:2986: checking whether the linker
(/usr/i686-pc-cygwin/bin/ld.exe) supports shared
libraries
configure:3671: checking how to hardcode library paths
into programs
configure:3699: checking whether stripping libraries
is possible
configure:3713: checking dynamic linker
characteristics
configure:4114: checking if libtool supports shared
libraries
configure:4118: checking whether to build shared
libraries
configure:4141: checking whether to build static
libraries
configure:5280: checking whether to enable
maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles
configure:5362: checking for gtk-config
configure:5397: checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.1
configure:5498: gcc -o conftest.exe -O2
-I/opt/gnome/include/gtk-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/include/glib-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include  
conftest.c -L/opt/gnome/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk
-lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lintl -lXext -lX11  1>&5
Warning: resolving _gtk_major_version by linking to
__imp__gtk_major_version (auto-import)
Warning: resolving _gtk_minor_version by linking to
__imp__gtk_minor_version (auto-import)
Warning: resolving _gtk_micro_version by linking to
__imp__gtk_micro_version (auto-import)
configure:5585: checking whether to build gmodulized
imlib
configure:5629: gcc -o conftest.exe -O2
-I/opt/gnome/include/glib-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/lib/glib/include   conftest.c 
-L/opt/gnome/lib -lgmodule -lglib 1>&5
configure:5686: checking for ANSI C header files
configure:5794: checking for dirent.h that defines DIR
configure:5832: checking for opendir in -ldir
configure:5851: gcc -o conftest.exe -O2   conftest.c
-ldir   1>&5
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/2.95.3-5/../../../../i686-pc-cygwin/bin/ld:
cannot find -ldir
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 5840 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"
/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an
error.  */
/* We use char because int might match the return type
of a gcc2
    builtin and then its argument prototype would
still apply.  */
char opendir();

int main() {
opendir()
; return 0; }
configure:5915: checking for sys/wait.h that is
POSIX.1 compatible
configure:5936: gcc -c -O2  conftest.c 1>&5
configure:5958: checking return type of signal
handlers
configure:6002: checking for vsnprintf
configure:6057: checking for snprintf
configure:6112: checking for basename
configure:6140: gcc -o conftest.exe -O2   conftest.c 
1>&5
/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/TEMP/cccq1jJN.o(.text+0xc):conftest.c:
undefined reference to `basename'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 6117 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"
/* System header to define __stub macros and hopefully
few prototypes,
    which can conflict with char basename(); below. 
*/
#include 
/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an
error.  */
/* We use char because int might match the return type
of a gcc2
    builtin and then its argument prototype would
still apply.  */
char basename();

int main() {

/* The GNU C library defines this for functions which
it implements
    to always fail with ENOSYS.  Some functions are
actually named
    something starting with __ and the normal name is
an alias.  */
#if defined (__stub_basename) || defined
(__stub___basename)
choke me
#else
basename();
#endif

; return 0; }
configure:6168: checking for blumfrub
configure:6196: gcc -o conftest.exe -O2   conftest.c 
1>&5
/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/TEMP/cch8amCU.o(.text+0xc):conftest.c:
undefined reference to `blumfrub'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 6173 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"
/* System header to define __stub macros and hopefully
few prototypes,
    which can conflict with char blumfrub(); below. 
*/
#include 
/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an
error.  */
/* We use char because int might match the return type
of a gcc2
    builtin and then its argument prototype would
still apply.  */
char blumfrub();

int main() {

/* The GNU C library defines this for functions which
it implements
    to always fail with ENOSYS.  Some functions are
actually named
    something starting with __ and the normal name is
an alias.  */
#if defined (__stub_blumfrub) || defined
(__stub___blumfrub)
choke me
#else
blumfrub();
#endif

; return 0; }
configure:6223: checking for buckets_of_erogenous_nym
configure:6251: gcc -o conftest.exe -O2   conftest.c 
1>&5
/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/TEMP/ccaxLFkm.o(.text+0xc):conftest.c:
undefined reference to `buckets_of_erogenous_nym'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 6228 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"
/* System header to define __stub macros and hopefully
few prototypes,
    which can conflict with char
buckets_of_erogenous_nym(); below.  */
#include 
/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an
error.  */
/* We use char because int might match the return type
of a gcc2
    builtin and then its argument prototype would
still apply.  */
char buckets_of_erogenous_nym();

int main() {

/* The GNU C library defines this for functions which
it implements
    to always fail with ENOSYS.  Some functions are
actually named
    something starting with __ and the normal name is
an alias.  */
#if defined (__stub_buckets_of_erogenous_nym) ||
defined (__stub___buckets_of_erogenous_nym)
choke me
#else
buckets_of_erogenous_nym();
#endif

; return 0; }
configure:6278: checking for buttox
configure:6306: gcc -o conftest.exe -O2   conftest.c 
1>&5
/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/TEMP/ccRDvvml.o(.text+0xc):conftest.c:
undefined reference to `buttox'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 6283 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"
/* System header to define __stub macros and hopefully
few prototypes,
    which can conflict with char buttox(); below.  */
#include 
/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an
error.  */
/* We use char because int might match the return type
of a gcc2
    builtin and then its argument prototype would
still apply.  */
char buttox();

int main() {

/* The GNU C library defines this for functions which
it implements
    to always fail with ENOSYS.  Some functions are
actually named
    something starting with __ and the normal name is
an alias.  */
#if defined (__stub_buttox) || defined
(__stub___buttox)
choke me
#else
buttox();
#endif

; return 0; }
configure:6333: checking for stdarg.h
configure:6370: checking for string.h
configure:6403: checking for strings.h
configure:6440: checking for X
configure:6754: checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet
configure:6795: checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet_stub
configure:6843: checking for gethostbyname
configure:6941: checking for connect
configure:7033: checking for remove
configure:7125: checking for shmat
configure:7174: checking for shmat in -lipc
configure:7226: checking for IceConnectionNumber in
-lICE
configure:7277: checking for XShmAttach in -lXext
configure:7316: checking for XShmAttach in -lXextSam
configure:7377: checking for sys/ipc.h
configure:7414: checking for sys/shm.h
configure:7513: checking X11/extensions/XShm.h
configure:7533: checking for jpeg_destroy_decompress
in -ljpeg
configure:7552: gcc -o conftest.exe -O2 
-I/opt/gnome/include/gtk-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/include/glib-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include
-I${prefix}/include -I/opt/gnome/include  conftest.c
-ljpeg -L/opt/gnome/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk
-lgmodule -lglib -lintl -lXext -lX11  1>&5
configure:7576: checking for jpeglib.h
configure:7586: gcc -E  -I/opt/gnome/include/gtk-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/include/glib-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include
-I${prefix}/include -I/opt/gnome/include conftest.c
>/dev/null 2>conftest.out
configure:7612: checking for TIFFReadScanline in
-ltiff
configure:7631: gcc -o conftest.exe -O2 
-I/opt/gnome/include/gtk-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/include/glib-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include
-I${prefix}/include -I/opt/gnome/include  conftest.c
-ltiff -L/opt/gnome/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk
-lgmodule -lglib -lintl -lXext -lX11  1>&5
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/2.95.3-5/../../../../i686-pc-cygwin/bin/ld:
cannot find -ltiff
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 7620 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"
/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an
error.  */
/* We use char because int might match the return type
of a gcc2
    builtin and then its argument prototype would
still apply.  */
char TIFFReadScanline();

int main() {
TIFFReadScanline()
; return 0; }
configure:7687: checking for TIFFWriteScanline in
-ltiff
configure:7706: gcc -o conftest.exe -O2 
-I/opt/gnome/include/gtk-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/include/glib-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include
-I${prefix}/include -I/opt/gnome/include  conftest.c
-ltiff -ljpeg -lz -L/opt/gnome/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib
-lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lintl -lXext -lX11  1>&5
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/2.95.3-5/../../../../i686-pc-cygwin/bin/ld:
cannot find -ltiff
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 7695 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"
/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an
error.  */
/* We use char because int might match the return type
of a gcc2
    builtin and then its argument prototype would
still apply.  */
char TIFFWriteScanline();

int main() {
TIFFWriteScanline()
; return 0; }
configure:7762: checking for TIFFFlushData in -ltiff34
configure:7781: gcc -o conftest.exe -O2 
-I/opt/gnome/include/gtk-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/include/glib-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include
-I${prefix}/include -I/opt/gnome/include  conftest.c
-ltiff34 -ljpeg -lz -L/opt/gnome/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib
-lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lintl -lXext -lX11  1>&5
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/2.95.3-5/../../../../i686-pc-cygwin/bin/ld:
cannot find -ltiff34
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 7770 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"
/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an
error.  */
/* We use char because int might match the return type
of a gcc2
    builtin and then its argument prototype would
still apply.  */
char TIFFFlushData();

int main() {
TIFFFlushData()
; return 0; }


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From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr 23 23:55:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 23:55:00 -0000
Subject: Error Installing imlib 1.9.14
In-Reply-To: <20020424044950.25700.qmail@web14309.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20020424044950.25700.qmail@web14309.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020424065449.GA20557@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 09:49:50PM -0700, Peter None wrote:
>Whilst installing this package, I get this configure
>error: *** TIFF Library not found ***
>I've installed ImageMagick-5.4.4 which seems to have
>gone fine.
>Below is the contents of the configure log.
>
>Any help finding a solution would be fantastic.

http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-grep.cgi?grep=libtiff

cgf


From sid@bms.umist.ac.uk  Wed Apr 24 07:18:00 2002
From: sid@bms.umist.ac.uk (Khushwant Sidhu)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:18:00 -0000
Subject: bash ...
Message-ID: <3CC6BE90.944FB261@bms.umist.ac.uk>

I'm trying to install xfree but 
when I type in (for example)

>XWin.exe query 

I get

> bash: XWin.exe:command not found

any ideas
-- 
Dr Khushwant Sidhu

e-mail ....... sid@bms.umist.ac.uk				  	
url    ....... http://wolf.bms.umist.ac.uk/~sid/

tel (work).... (+44) (0)161 200 5821					
mobile	  ....	0787 661 3861
fax (work).... (+44) (0)161 236 0409

address ...... Dept of Biomolecular Sciences	
               P.O. Box 88
               Manchester
               M60 1QD


From salexander@taz.qinetiq.com  Wed Apr 24 07:59:00 2002
From: salexander@taz.qinetiq.com (Scott Alexander)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:59:00 -0000
Subject: bash ...
References: <3CC6BE90.944FB261@bms.umist.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <000701c1eba0$c4cb3130$2153b80a@gooshy>

Check to see if you have the file XWin installed on your hard disk should be
in: /usr/X11R6/bin.  Also check that you have /usr/X11R6/bin in your path,
check by typing "echo %PATH" if its not add it by typing "export PATH =
$PATH: /usr/X11R6/bin" or set it up in your bash_profile.

Hope this helps.

Scott Alexander.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Khushwant Sidhu" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:17 PM
Subject: bash ...


> I'm trying to install xfree but
> when I type in (for example)
>
> >XWin.exe query 
>
> I get
>
> > bash: XWin.exe:command not found
>
> any ideas
> --
> Dr Khushwant Sidhu
>
> e-mail ....... sid@bms.umist.ac.uk
> url    ....... http://wolf.bms.umist.ac.uk/~sid/
>
> tel (work).... (+44) (0)161 200 5821
> mobile   .... 0787 661 3861
> fax (work).... (+44) (0)161 236 0409
>
> address ...... Dept of Biomolecular Sciences
>                P.O. Box 88
>                Manchester
>                M60 1QD


From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Wed Apr 24 09:41:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:41:00 -0000
Subject: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
Message-ID: 


Sometimes I experience a strange problem with not being able to start
up a windows program when I have cygwin/xfree running. When I click on a
windows program while running Cygwin/xfree the windows program first
comes up after I ghave shut down Cygwin/xfree. This is an intermittent
problem that only occurs about half the time. Has anyone had this
problem?

Thanks,
Lars.

--
Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592



From jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk  Wed Apr 24 10:20:00 2002
From: jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk (Jeremy Wilkins)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:20:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86
Message-ID: <001301c1ebb4$e927e0f0$0a00a8c0@bytenet>

Hi,

I've put together a very simple frontend to launch XWin with when used to
connect to XDMCP. The front end will handle passing font paths (and will
convert from windows to cygwin style paths) and the path to the colours
database. This means that XWin can be moved out of the directory structure
it would normally expect, so can be used as a normal windows app, just one
dependant on cygwin1.dll and cygz.dll.

I've got a couple of know issues with it though,

1) XWin insists on the existance of a /tmp/.X11-unix folder, are there any
commandline options, or compile options I can use to change this (so I can
put it in %TEMP%/.X11-unix).

2) The keyboard is always set to US. I've not managed to use the command
line option to change the keyboard layout, could someone please explain this
(where are the xmodmap files I should be using). Once I can do this, I can
make the frontend detect the windows keyboard layout and set Xwin
accordingly. At the moment XKeyboard extension is disabled because xkbcomp,
etc isn't available.

Finally could someone please clarify where I stand on licenses, what license
is Cygwin under, what is cygwin/xfree86 under, can I put my frontend under
GPL without conflicting with the other components.

http://www.jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk/extend/index.html

Any comments would be appreciated

Jeb




From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 24 10:45:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:45:00 -0000
Subject: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Lars,

In answer to your question: no, no one else has reported this problem.

We're going to need information on *exactly* which programs this problem
happens with.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:32 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
>
>
>
> Sometimes I experience a strange problem with not being able to start
> up a windows program when I have cygwin/xfree running. When I click on a
> windows program while running Cygwin/xfree the windows program first
> comes up after I ghave shut down Cygwin/xfree. This is an intermittent
> problem that only occurs about half the time. Has anyone had this
> problem?
>
> Thanks,
> Lars.
>
> --
> Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
>
>


From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Wed Apr 24 10:50:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:50:00 -0000
Subject: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Harold,

It happens when I run LyX - It doesn't happen when I run the default
startxwin.bat file coming with cygwin/xfree86.

Lars.

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:

> Lars,
> 
> In answer to your question: no, no one else has reported this problem.
> 
> We're going to need information on *exactly* which programs this problem
> happens with.
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:32 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
> >
> >
> >
> > Sometimes I experience a strange problem with not being able to start
> > up a windows program when I have cygwin/xfree running. When I click on a
> > windows program while running Cygwin/xfree the windows program first
> > comes up after I ghave shut down Cygwin/xfree. This is an intermittent
> > problem that only occurs about half the time. Has anyone had this
> > problem?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lars.
> >
> > --
> > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> > Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> >
> >
> 
> 

--
Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 24 10:56:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:56:00 -0000
Subject: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Lars,

Wait a minute, do you mean:
1) running LyX within Cygwin/XFree86 prevents Windows applications from
launching, or
2) attempting to launch a Windows version of Lyx is unsuccessful when
Cygwin/XFree86 is running?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:40 PM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
>
>
> Harold,
>
> It happens when I run LyX - It doesn't happen when I run the default
> startxwin.bat file coming with cygwin/xfree86.
>
> Lars.
>
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
>
> > Lars,
> >
> > In answer to your question: no, no one else has reported this problem.
> >
> > We're going to need information on *exactly* which programs this problem
> > happens with.
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:32 PM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sometimes I experience a strange problem with not being able to start
> > > up a windows program when I have cygwin/xfree running. When I
> click on a
> > > windows program while running Cygwin/xfree the windows program first
> > > comes up after I ghave shut down Cygwin/xfree. This is an intermittent
> > > problem that only occurs about half the time. Has anyone had this
> > > problem?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Lars.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> > > Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
>


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Wed Apr 24 10:58:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:58:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86
In-Reply-To: <001301c1ebb4$e927e0f0$0a00a8c0@bytenet>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Jeremy Wilkins wrote:

> 1) XWin insists on the existance of a /tmp/.X11-unix folder, are there any
> commandline options, or compile options I can use to change this (so I can
> put it in %TEMP%/.X11-unix).

Can't remember having seen such a feature. AFAIR, the server code (at 
least the xkb part) writes all temporary files to /tmp. But you can 
configure this at compiletime.
 
> 2) The keyboard is always set to US. I've not managed to use the command
> line option to change the keyboard layout, could someone please explain this
> (where are the xmodmap files I should be using). Once I can do this, I can
> make the frontend detect the windows keyboard layout and set Xwin
> accordingly. At the moment XKeyboard extension is disabled because xkbcomp,
> etc isn't available.

It think -xkbmap does this. But I'm not sure. 
The option requires one parameter which is a file in /tmp. Either this 
was a compiled keympa file as produced by xkbcomp or the description needed
as input for xkbcomp (I can't verify this since I have no system at hand
where I can test this, but I guess it was the first one) 
> 
> Finally could someone please clarify where I stand on licenses, what license
> is Cygwin under, what is cygwin/xfree86 under, can I put my frontend under
> GPL without conflicting with the other components.
> 
> http://www.jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk/extend/index.html

I'm not a lawyer but taken into account what software projects exist, GPL 
should be ok. 

- A lot of GPL programs use X11 (eg. Gnome)
- A lot of GPL programs use cygwin 

These examples don't prove that its legal, but I doubt its illegal. The
best is to wait for other responses.

bye
	ago
-- 
 Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017


From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Wed Apr 24 11:05:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:05:00 -0000
Subject: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Harold,

Actually, I think I have to correct myself - I now think it is
xwinclip that hangs up things. I found a way to reproduce the problem.

1) Add the line
	start xwinclip 
   after the start twm line in startxwin.bat.

2) start cygwin/xfree with the new startxwin.bat

3) Go down and click on the windows meny bar and issue the command
   WindowsKey-E (to bring up windows Explorer). (WindowsKey is the key with 
   a MSWindow on it).

4) After this I can't bring any windows programs up (at least for a
   while). Try to click the Start button, for example. The windows side
   of the machine become very sluggish.


   Lars.


On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:

> Lars,
> 
> In answer to your question: no, no one else has reported this problem.
> 
> We're going to need information on *exactly* which programs this problem
> happens with.
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:32 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
> >
> >
> >
> > Sometimes I experience a strange problem with not being able to start
> > up a windows program when I have cygwin/xfree running. When I click on a
> > windows program while running Cygwin/xfree the windows program first
> > comes up after I ghave shut down Cygwin/xfree. This is an intermittent
> > problem that only occurs about half the time. Has anyone had this
> > problem?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lars.
> >
> > --
> > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> > Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> >
> >
> 
> 

--
Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 24 11:14:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:14:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86
In-Reply-To: <001301c1ebb4$e927e0f0$0a00a8c0@bytenet>
Message-ID: 

Jeremy,

I just tried 'XWin -nolisten local'.  This prevented /tmp/.X11-unix from
being created, but I didn't test the method thoroughly to make sure that
everything (remote clients, etc.) still works.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jeremy Wilkins
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:24 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I've put together a very simple frontend to launch XWin with when used to
> connect to XDMCP. The front end will handle passing font paths (and will
> convert from windows to cygwin style paths) and the path to the colours
> database. This means that XWin can be moved out of the directory structure
> it would normally expect, so can be used as a normal windows app, just one
> dependant on cygwin1.dll and cygz.dll.
>
> I've got a couple of know issues with it though,
>
> 1) XWin insists on the existance of a /tmp/.X11-unix folder, are there any
> commandline options, or compile options I can use to change this (so I can
> put it in %TEMP%/.X11-unix).
>
> 2) The keyboard is always set to US. I've not managed to use the command
> line option to change the keyboard layout, could someone please
> explain this
> (where are the xmodmap files I should be using). Once I can do this, I can
> make the frontend detect the windows keyboard layout and set Xwin
> accordingly. At the moment XKeyboard extension is disabled
> because xkbcomp,
> etc isn't available.
>
> Finally could someone please clarify where I stand on licenses,
> what license
> is Cygwin under, what is cygwin/xfree86 under, can I put my frontend under
> GPL without conflicting with the other components.
>
> http://www.jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk/extend/index.html
>
> Any comments would be appreciated
>
> Jeb
>
>
>


From jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk  Wed Apr 24 12:25:00 2002
From: jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk (Jeremy Wilkins)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:25:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86
References: <001301c1ebb4$e927e0f0$0a00a8c0@bytenet> <005c01c1ebb9$40aa1510$1300a8c0@pmb>
Message-ID: <005701c1ebc6$51367560$0a00a8c0@bytenet>

Thanks, but this is kind of aimed at people who only want Cygwin/XFree for
just the XDMCP stuff (ie to get to another machine), which, from watching
the list, seems to be quite a few people.

Thanks

jeremy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Bradford" 
To: "Jeremy Wilkins" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86


> Well, one way to get around needing to do any of that is to make a
shortcut
> with the command line being:
>
> c:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe -login -c "XWin.exe -query
> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -fullscreen [-whatever]"
>
> with the working directory being c:\cygwin\bin
>
> This will leave a blank CygWin window which can be safely closed.
>
>     - Matt
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeremy Wilkins" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:24 PM
> Subject: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've put together a very simple frontend to launch XWin with when used
to
> > connect to XDMCP. The front end will handle passing font paths (and will
> > convert from windows to cygwin style paths) and the path to the colours
> > database. This means that XWin can be moved out of the directory
structure
> > it would normally expect, so can be used as a normal windows app, just
one
> > dependant on cygwin1.dll and cygz.dll.
> >
> > I've got a couple of know issues with it though,
> >
> > 1) XWin insists on the existance of a /tmp/.X11-unix folder, are there
any
> > commandline options, or compile options I can use to change this (so I
can
> > put it in %TEMP%/.X11-unix).
> >
> > 2) The keyboard is always set to US. I've not managed to use the command
> > line option to change the keyboard layout, could someone please explain
> this
> > (where are the xmodmap files I should be using). Once I can do this, I
can
> > make the frontend detect the windows keyboard layout and set Xwin
> > accordingly. At the moment XKeyboard extension is disabled because
> xkbcomp,
> > etc isn't available.
> >
> > Finally could someone please clarify where I stand on licenses, what
> license
> > is Cygwin under, what is cygwin/xfree86 under, can I put my frontend
under
> > GPL without conflicting with the other components.
> >
> > http://www.jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk/extend/index.html
> >
> > Any comments would be appreciated
> >
> > Jeb
> >
> >
>
>




From jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk  Wed Apr 24 12:25:00 2002
From: jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk (Jeremy Wilkins)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:25:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86
References: 
Message-ID: <005801c1ebc6$52851570$0a00a8c0@bytenet>

Hi,

That solves the local socket problem, is the Xserver likely to need the temp
folder for anything else (log files spring to mind, can I switch these off).

If so, where in the code do I change the /tmp default - I spent most of this
morning looking through the code but drew a blank (I don't know either C or
makefiles so I was probably looking past it or in the wrong place).

Thanks

Jeb
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: "Jeremy Wilkins" 
Cc: "cygx" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 7:14 PM
Subject: RE: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86


> Jeremy,
>
> I just tried 'XWin -nolisten local'.  This prevented /tmp/.X11-unix from
> being created, but I didn't test the method thoroughly to make sure that
> everything (remote clients, etc.) still works.
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jeremy Wilkins
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:24 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've put together a very simple frontend to launch XWin with when used
to
> > connect to XDMCP. The front end will handle passing font paths (and will
> > convert from windows to cygwin style paths) and the path to the colours
> > database. This means that XWin can be moved out of the directory
structure
> > it would normally expect, so can be used as a normal windows app, just
one
> > dependant on cygwin1.dll and cygz.dll.
> >
> > I've got a couple of know issues with it though,
> >
> > 1) XWin insists on the existance of a /tmp/.X11-unix folder, are there
any
> > commandline options, or compile options I can use to change this (so I
can
> > put it in %TEMP%/.X11-unix).
> >
> > 2) The keyboard is always set to US. I've not managed to use the command
> > line option to change the keyboard layout, could someone please
> > explain this
> > (where are the xmodmap files I should be using). Once I can do this, I
can
> > make the frontend detect the windows keyboard layout and set Xwin
> > accordingly. At the moment XKeyboard extension is disabled
> > because xkbcomp,
> > etc isn't available.
> >
> > Finally could someone please clarify where I stand on licenses,
> > what license
> > is Cygwin under, what is cygwin/xfree86 under, can I put my frontend
under
> > GPL without conflicting with the other components.
> >
> > http://www.jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk/extend/index.html
> >
> > Any comments would be appreciated
> >
> > Jeb
> >
> >
> >
>
>



From jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk  Wed Apr 24 12:25:00 2002
From: jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk (Jeremy Wilkins)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:25:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86
References: 
Message-ID: <005901c1ebc6$53980c10$0a00a8c0@bytenet>

Hi Ago,

I'll have another go with the XKB stuff, can you point me to some docs on
this?

You say that /tmp is a compile time option, where do I find this?

Thanks

jeb

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Gottwald" 
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86


> On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Jeremy Wilkins wrote:
>
> > 1) XWin insists on the existance of a /tmp/.X11-unix folder, are there
any
> > commandline options, or compile options I can use to change this (so I
can
> > put it in %TEMP%/.X11-unix).
>
> Can't remember having seen such a feature. AFAIR, the server code (at
> least the xkb part) writes all temporary files to /tmp. But you can
> configure this at compiletime.
>
> > 2) The keyboard is always set to US. I've not managed to use the command
> > line option to change the keyboard layout, could someone please explain
this
> > (where are the xmodmap files I should be using). Once I can do this, I
can
> > make the frontend detect the windows keyboard layout and set Xwin
> > accordingly. At the moment XKeyboard extension is disabled because
xkbcomp,
> > etc isn't available.
>
> It think -xkbmap does this. But I'm not sure.
> The option requires one parameter which is a file in /tmp. Either this
> was a compiled keympa file as produced by xkbcomp or the description
needed
> as input for xkbcomp (I can't verify this since I have no system at hand
> where I can test this, but I guess it was the first one)
> >
> > Finally could someone please clarify where I stand on licenses, what
license
> > is Cygwin under, what is cygwin/xfree86 under, can I put my frontend
under
> > GPL without conflicting with the other components.
> >
> > http://www.jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk/extend/index.html
>
> I'm not a lawyer but taken into account what software projects exist, GPL
> should be ok.
>
> - A lot of GPL programs use X11 (eg. Gnome)
> - A lot of GPL programs use cygwin
>
> These examples don't prove that its legal, but I doubt its illegal. The
> best is to wait for other responses.
>
> bye
> ago
> --
>  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
>  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
>  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017
>
>


From david.w.dawson@lmco.com  Wed Apr 24 13:34:00 2002
From: david.w.dawson@lmco.com (Dawson, David W)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:34:00 -0000
Subject: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
Message-ID: <0C73AA5F720CD311AC2A0008C7DBA9B403BDF70C@emss09m13.ems.lmco.com>

I have to agree with xwinclip as the culprit.
I have experienced this problem for some time, on 3 different platforms (98,
NT and 2K) with the same symptoms, and the added evidence that killing
xwinclip (kill -9 ) allows the desired program to come up right away.
(Actually my experience is that double-clicking a file in Windows Explorer
will often result in such a "hung" program.)

I have been following the discussion about xwinclip and how it tries to
determine when things are added to the clipboard, and wonder if this is the
root of the problem.

Anyway, since I have no time to help contribute to the solution, I have been
reluctant to bring it up as a problem.  (I just kill xwinclip, then restart
it.)

	-D.
---------------------
David Dawson
david.w.dawson@lmco.com
703-367-3885


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Lars Jensen [SMTP:jensen@physics.unr.edu]
> Sent:	Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:55 PM
> To:	Harold Hunt
> Cc:	cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject:	RE: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
> 
> Harold,
> 
> Actually, I think I have to correct myself - I now think it is
> xwinclip that hangs up things. I found a way to reproduce the problem.
> 
> 1) Add the line
> 	start xwinclip 
>    after the start twm line in startxwin.bat.
> 
> 2) start cygwin/xfree with the new startxwin.bat
> 
> 3) Go down and click on the windows meny bar and issue the command
>    WindowsKey-E (to bring up windows Explorer). (WindowsKey is the key
> with 
>    a MSWindow on it).
> 
> 4) After this I can't bring any windows programs up (at least for a
>    while). Try to click the Start button, for example. The windows side
>    of the machine become very sluggish.
> 
> 
>    Lars.
> 
> 
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> > Lars,
> > 
> > In answer to your question: no, no one else has reported this problem.
> > 
> > We're going to need information on *exactly* which programs this problem
> > happens with.
> > 
> > Harold
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:32 PM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sometimes I experience a strange problem with not being able to start
> > > up a windows program when I have cygwin/xfree running. When I click on
> a
> > > windows program while running Cygwin/xfree the windows program first
> > > comes up after I ghave shut down Cygwin/xfree. This is an intermittent
> > > problem that only occurs about half the time. Has anyone had this
> > > problem?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Lars.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> > > Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> 
> --
> Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
> Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592


From kmpm@telia.com  Wed Apr 24 14:21:00 2002
From: kmpm@telia.com (Peter Magnusson)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:21:00 -0000
Subject: Failed assertion bug using OpenOffice.org
Message-ID: <200204242121.g3OLL1M18116@d1o1006.telia.com>

I have a setup with cygwin 1.3.9-1 and 4.2.0 of cygwin-xfree.
I have a little problem when using openoffice.org (641c) both with and 
without a windowmanager. I use SuSE 7.3 Pro Linux distribution with 
KDE. I use Windows 2000 Pro, SP2 (english).

When accessing any of the menuitems a Windows(ms) dialog box pops up 
saying ...
---------------------
Faild assertion 
   fds_on_hold !NULL
at line 601 of /cygnus/netrel/src/cygwin-1.3.9-1/winsup/cygwin/dtable.cc
---------------------
This seems to be a similar bug that has been reported when using KDE3 
but I am not sertain.
I get the same results using the T55 version of XWin.exe.

I use openoffice.org a lot and it would be a lot simpler if I could use 
the same environment (XWindows) when using my Windows box as well.


======================================
            Peter Magnusson
         mailto:kmpm@telia.com
======================================


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From Christian.MOMON@one2team.com  Thu Apr 25 02:32:00 2002
From: Christian.MOMON@one2team.com (Christian P. Momon)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 02:32:00 -0000
Subject: "F1" binding on twm failed.
Message-ID: <3CC7CD1C.9020200@one2team.com>


  Hi,

  I am trying to configure my twmrc, so i add:
"F1" =  : all : f.iconify

  But, it doesnt work.

I use Xfree86 4.2.0 with xwinclip-Test03.exe.bz2.

Nothing in guide, archive and google. I need help.

  Thanks.

  Cpm.
-- 
Christian MOMON
ONE2TEAM R&D
cmomon@ONE2TEAM.com


From gh@herbort-rottschaefer.de  Thu Apr 25 02:41:00 2002
From: gh@herbort-rottschaefer.de (Gregor Herbort)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 02:41:00 -0000
Subject: Installation Problems
Message-ID: 

Hello,

i downloaded Cygwin/XFree86. When i try to install with ./Xinstall i get a
Windows Error Message that the cygintl-1.dll is missing.
Nevertheless the Xinstall script starts and examined the file extract.exe
and comes to the conclusion that this file si not correct renamed it and
then the script stops.
Any tips?

greetings
Gregor


From salexander@taz.qinetiq.com  Thu Apr 25 04:00:00 2002
From: salexander@taz.qinetiq.com (Scott Alexander)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 04:00:00 -0000
Subject: bash ...
References: <3CC6BE90.944FB261@bms.umist.ac.uk> <000701c1eba0$c4cb3130$2153b80a@gooshy> <3CC7DBE6.399B2CBE@bms.umist.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <001b01c1ec48$9acd49b0$2153b80a@gooshy>

If you have XWin.exe in the /usr/x11R6/bin directory then it should be
installed.  Im not sure what doesn't exist when you say:

"and X is a soft link to XWin (which doesn't exist)"

If you go to the /usr/X11R6/bin directory and type "./XWin.exe" what
happens?



----- Original Message -----
From: "Khushwant Sidhu" 
To: "Scott Alexander" 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: bash ...


> Thanks Scott
>
> I have XWin.exe in the /usr/x11R6/bin directory
> and X is a soft link to XWin (which doesn't exist)
>
> how can I install XWin
>
> sid
> --
> Dr Khushwant Sidhu
>
> e-mail ....... sid@bms.umist.ac.uk
> url    ....... http://wolf.bms.umist.ac.uk/~sid/
>
> tel (work).... (+44) (0)161 200 5821
> mobile   .... 0787 661 3861
> fax (work).... (+44) (0)161 236 0409
>
> address ...... Dept of Biomolecular Sciences
>                P.O. Box 88
>                Manchester
>                M60 1QD


From salexander@taz.qinetiq.com  Thu Apr 25 04:20:00 2002
From: salexander@taz.qinetiq.com (Scott Alexander)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 04:20:00 -0000
Subject: bash ...
References: <3CC6BE90.944FB261@bms.umist.ac.uk> <000701c1eba0$c4cb3130$2153b80a@gooshy> <3CC7DBE6.399B2CBE@bms.umist.ac.uk> <001b01c1ec48$9acd49b0$2153b80a@gooshy> <3CC7E366.D5E42878@bms.umist.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <000d01c1ec4b$5da102e0$2153b80a@gooshy>

The grey blank window that you are seeing is X.  You just have to figure
what you want to put on it. :-)

Have fun.
Scott.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Khushwant Sidhu" 
To: "Scott Alexander" 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: bash ...


> Scott Alexander wrote:
> >
> > If you have XWin.exe in the /usr/x11R6/bin directory then it should be
> > installed.  Im not sure what doesn't exist when you say:
> >
> > "and X is a soft link to XWin (which doesn't exist)"
> >
> > If you go to the /usr/X11R6/bin directory and type "./XWin.exe" what
> > happens?
>
>
> Scott,
>
> I get a full screen (grey) blank window labelled Cygwin/XFree86
>
>
> (thanks for your time)
>
> sid
>
> --
> Dr Khushwant Sidhu
>
> e-mail ....... sid@bms.umist.ac.uk
> url    ....... http://wolf.bms.umist.ac.uk/~sid/
>
> tel (work).... (+44) (0)161 200 5821
> mobile   .... 0787 661 3861
> fax (work).... (+44) (0)161 236 0409
>
> address ...... Dept of Biomolecular Sciences
>                P.O. Box 88
>                Manchester
>                M60 1QD


From jmlee@optusnet.com.au  Thu Apr 25 04:52:00 2002
From: jmlee@optusnet.com.au (Mike Daffey)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 04:52:00 -0000
Subject: xfree impossibly slow with hummingbird socks installed
Message-ID: <3CC7EDE1.7ACBA4F5@optusnet.com.au>

I'm new to cygwin & xfree and pretty ignorant of Win2K; apologies if
this is so well-known it doesn't  rate a mention.
It's also not a problem for me - I can live without SOCKS most of the
time.
I installed cygwin & xfree from the net on a win2k (service pack 2)
laptop a few days ago. 256MB, 650MHz PIII.  startxwin.sh gets XWin, twm
and xterm running, but amazingly slow. (xsetroot takes 22seconds to
run...)  Only other effect is that menu fonts seem to be invisible -
green fg on green background?

Cygwin performance seems ok. A few experiments strongly suggest that
XWin is being scheduled very briefly once per second and this behaviour
is independent of mouse movement. Another laptop with the same h/w & O/S
is fine.
Considerably later....
Noticed that an unconfigured Hummingbird SOCKS client has a DLL loaded.
Deinstall SOCKS with XWin running and get the interesting message to the
effect that cygwin/xfree should be stopped before proceeding with the
deinstall.
Obey orders, restart XWin; everything fine (including menus).
Reinstalled/deinstalled  SOCKS to verify that this is reproducible.
The SOCKs client is a version 7.10 - (socks_v71_releasd.exe), a free
download from www.hummingbird.com. Dunno whether 7.10 is the latest
version; it's certainly only a few months old.
below are the outputs of xdpyinfo and the XWin log. diff tells me
there's no difference with or without SOCKS.

Mike

xdpyinfo output:
===========
name of display:    127.0.0.1:0.0
version number:    11.0
vendor string:    The XFree86 Project, Inc
vendor release number:    40200000
XFree86 version: 4.2.0
maximum request size:  4194300 bytes
motion buffer size:  256
bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    32, LSBFirst, 32
image byte order:    LSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats:    7
supported pixmap formats:
    depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
    depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
    depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
    depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
    depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
    depth 24, bits_per_pixel 24, scanline_pad 32
    depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
keycode range:    minimum 8, maximum 255
focus:  window 0x20000e, revert to PointerRoot
number of extensions:    22
    BIG-REQUESTS
    DEC-XTRAP
    DOUBLE-BUFFER
    Extended-Visual-Information
    FontCache
    GLX
    LBX
    MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
    RANDR
    RECORD
    RENDER
    SECURITY
    SGI-GLX
    SHAPE
    SYNC
    TOG-CUP
    XC-APPGROUP
    XC-MISC
    XFree86-Bigfont
    XKEYBOARD
    XTEST
    XVideo
default screen number:    0
number of screens:    1

screen #0:
  dimensions:    1018x715 pixels (345x242 millimeters)
  resolution:    75x75 dots per inch
  depths (7):    32, 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 24
  root window id:    0x36
  depth of root window:    32 planes
  number of colormaps:    minimum 1, maximum 1
  default colormap:    0x20
  default number of colormap cells:    2048
  preallocated pixels:    black 0, white 16777215
  options:    backing-store NO, save-unders NO
  largest cursor:    1018x715
  current input event mask:    0xd0001d
    KeyPressMask             ButtonPressMask          ButtonReleaseMask
    EnterWindowMask          SubstructureRedirectMask PropertyChangeMask

    ColormapChangeMask
  number of visuals:    2
  default visual id:  0x22
  visual:
    visual id:    0x22
    class:    TrueColor
    depth:    32 planes
    available colormap entries:    2048 per subfield
    red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
    significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
  visual:
    visual id:    0x23
    class:    TrueColor
    depth:    32 planes
    available colormap entries:    2048 per subfield
    red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
    significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
XWin.log (from just running XWin at the bash prompt)
====================================
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits
per pixel
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l
0 b 715 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 4072
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
32
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 32
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
error opening security policy file
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,
removing from list!
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,
removing from list!
winWindowProc () - Closekey hit, quitting
winCloseScreenShadowDDNL () - Freeing screen resources



From Christian.MOMON@one2team.com  Thu Apr 25 05:11:00 2002
From: Christian.MOMON@one2team.com (Christian P. Momon)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 05:11:00 -0000
Subject: "F1" binding on twm failed.
References: <3CC7CD1C.9020200@one2team.com>
Message-ID: <3CC7F23D.9040906@one2team.com>

Christian P. Momon wrote:
> 
>  Hi,
> 
>  I am trying to configure my twmrc, so i add:
> "F1" =  : all : f.iconify
> 
>  But, it doesnt work.
> 
> I use Xfree86 4.2.0 with xwinclip-Test03.exe.bz2.

On Windows2000, 800mhz and 700Mo RAM.


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Thu Apr 25 05:38:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 05:38:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86
In-Reply-To: <005901c1ebc6$53980c10$0a00a8c0@bytenet>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Jeremy Wilkins wrote:

> Hi Ago,
> 
> I'll have another go with the XKB stuff, can you point me to some docs on
> this?

only the man pages for X.
man xkbcomp
man X
man XFree86

> You say that /tmp is a compile time option, where do I find this?

You could only change the path from /tmp to something else. 
The easiest way to create the /tmp dir is to mount $TEMP or $TMP to /tmp.

bye
	ago
-- 
 Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017


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From jerome.bauwens@steria.com  Thu Apr 25 07:37:00 2002
From: jerome.bauwens@steria.com (jerome bauwens)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 07:37:00 -0000
Subject: keyboard problem starting XFree86
Message-ID: 

I installed cygwin/xfree86 on windows 2000 to have a x-server (with the
default selection of packages and the packages from xfree/binaries/4.2.0)
The cygwin environment runs fine but the x-environment (using startx) has an
american keyboard (I use a french keyboard).
Could you tell me how to get my keyboard to work fine under the
x-environment.

Thanks.

Jerome BAUWENS.
jerome.bauwens@steria.com


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr 25 10:38:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 10:38:00 -0000
Subject: [2]  Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Lars,

I probably won't have time to look at this soon.  Maybe next week.

Don't forget to cc the cygwin-xfree mailing list when you mail me, because
you're not having a conversation with me (even though I wrote xwinclip) you
are having a conversation with the Cygwin/XFree86 project and we like to
keep these conversations public so that others can pitch in.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lars Jensen [mailto:jensen@physics.unr.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:11 PM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Subject: RE:[2] Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
>
>
> Harold,
>
> xwinclip seems to be the problem program. Did you try the steps
> below - I have
> tried them on several machines by now, and on all the "lock up"
> windows, at
> kleast for a while, so I can't launch MSWindows programs. When I stop
> xwinclip the problem goes away.
>
> Lars.
>
> 1) start cygwin/cfree with startxwin.bat.
>
> 2) in the xterm window, start xwinclip
>
> 3) Go down and click on the windows meny bar and issue the command
> WindowsKey-E (to bring up windows Explorer). (WindowsKey is the key with
> a MSWindow on it).
>
> 4) After this I can't bring any windows programs up (at least for
> a while). Try to
> click the Start button, for example. The windows side of the
> machine become
> very sluggish. Lars.
>
> >We're??going??to??need??information??on??*exactly*??which??programs??this??problem
> > happens??with.
>
>


From emu@emu.no-ip.org  Thu Apr 25 11:11:00 2002
From: emu@emu.no-ip.org (Edmund Urbani)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 11:11:00 -0000
Subject: XKB not working
Message-ID: <3CC84735.E39D39D@emu.no-ip.org>


Hi!

Yesterday i installed cygwin with XFree 4.2.0. Everything worked fine
from the start except that I could not set it up for my german keyboard
layout. All I get, when I try to use eg. setxkbmap is a popup window
(outside the X server as a normal Win2000-window) with this error
message:

Failed assertion
fds_on_hold !=NULL
at line 643 of file
/cygnus/netrel/src/cygwin-1.3.10-1/winsup/cygwin/dtable.cc

Other tools using XKB (like Kde Control Center) cause the same error.

I found an earlier post from Charles L. Werner on this list, who appears
to have (had?) the same problem, but there does not seem to be a helpful
reply to that one.
As a workaround I am currently using xmodmap in the X server's startup
scripts, but I would really prefer to use XKB instead.

So, any ideas what might be wrong with my X server? What is this
fds_on_hold variable and that dtable.cc file all about, anyway?

 Edmund


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr 25 12:02:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:02:00 -0000
Subject: XKB not working
In-Reply-To: <3CC84735.E39D39D@emu.no-ip.org>
Message-ID: 

Edmund,

You have stumbled across a bug that we have recently noticed.  We do not yet
know what causes it to happen, but we do have several reproducible test
cases.  Please watch the mailing list for news on how the fixing of this bug
is progressing.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Edmund Urbani
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:13 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: XKB not working
>
>
>
> Hi!
>
> Yesterday i installed cygwin with XFree 4.2.0. Everything worked fine
> from the start except that I could not set it up for my german keyboard
> layout. All I get, when I try to use eg. setxkbmap is a popup window
> (outside the X server as a normal Win2000-window) with this error
> message:
>
> Failed assertion
> fds_on_hold !=NULL
> at line 643 of file
> /cygnus/netrel/src/cygwin-1.3.10-1/winsup/cygwin/dtable.cc
>
> Other tools using XKB (like Kde Control Center) cause the same error.
>
> I found an earlier post from Charles L. Werner on this list, who appears
> to have (had?) the same problem, but there does not seem to be a helpful
> reply to that one.
> As a workaround I am currently using xmodmap in the X server's startup
> scripts, but I would really prefer to use XKB instead.
>
> So, any ideas what might be wrong with my X server? What is this
> fds_on_hold variable and that dtable.cc file all about, anyway?
>
>  Edmund
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr 25 12:09:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:09:00 -0000
Subject: xfree impossibly slow with hummingbird socks installed
In-Reply-To: <3CC7EDE1.7ACBA4F5@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: 

Mike,

Cygwin and Cygwin/XFree86 use tcp/ip sockets extensively.  Therefore, it
makes perfect sense that any additional overhead in the sockets layer would
show a large effect on the performance of Cygwin/XFree86.  I have no
experience with Hummingbird's SOCKS package, but from the nature of what the
package does (it is essentially a firewall product) I can guess that it
would slow down the responsiveness of tcp/ip sockets significantly.

Prognosis: don't install Hummingbird's SOCKS :)

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Mike Daffey
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 7:52 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com
> Subject: xfree impossibly slow with hummingbird socks installed
>
>
> I'm new to cygwin & xfree and pretty ignorant of Win2K; apologies if
> this is so well-known it doesn't  rate a mention.
> It's also not a problem for me - I can live without SOCKS most of the
> time.
> I installed cygwin & xfree from the net on a win2k (service pack 2)
> laptop a few days ago. 256MB, 650MHz PIII.  startxwin.sh gets XWin, twm
> and xterm running, but amazingly slow. (xsetroot takes 22seconds to
> run...)  Only other effect is that menu fonts seem to be invisible -
> green fg on green background?
>
> Cygwin performance seems ok. A few experiments strongly suggest that
> XWin is being scheduled very briefly once per second and this behaviour
> is independent of mouse movement. Another laptop with the same h/w & O/S
> is fine.
> Considerably later....
> Noticed that an unconfigured Hummingbird SOCKS client has a DLL loaded.
> Deinstall SOCKS with XWin running and get the interesting message to the
> effect that cygwin/xfree should be stopped before proceeding with the
> deinstall.
> Obey orders, restart XWin; everything fine (including menus).
> Reinstalled/deinstalled  SOCKS to verify that this is reproducible.
> The SOCKs client is a version 7.10 - (socks_v71_releasd.exe), a free
> download from www.hummingbird.com. Dunno whether 7.10 is the latest
> version; it's certainly only a few months old.
> below are the outputs of xdpyinfo and the XWin log. diff tells me
> there's no difference with or without SOCKS.
>
> Mike
>
> xdpyinfo output:
> ===========
> name of display:    127.0.0.1:0.0
> version number:    11.0
> vendor string:    The XFree86 Project, Inc
> vendor release number:    40200000
> XFree86 version: 4.2.0
> maximum request size:  4194300 bytes
> motion buffer size:  256
> bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    32, LSBFirst, 32
> image byte order:    LSBFirst
> number of supported pixmap formats:    7
> supported pixmap formats:
>     depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
>     depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
>     depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
>     depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
>     depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
>     depth 24, bits_per_pixel 24, scanline_pad 32
>     depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
> keycode range:    minimum 8, maximum 255
> focus:  window 0x20000e, revert to PointerRoot
> number of extensions:    22
>     BIG-REQUESTS
>     DEC-XTRAP
>     DOUBLE-BUFFER
>     Extended-Visual-Information
>     FontCache
>     GLX
>     LBX
>     MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
>     RANDR
>     RECORD
>     RENDER
>     SECURITY
>     SGI-GLX
>     SHAPE
>     SYNC
>     TOG-CUP
>     XC-APPGROUP
>     XC-MISC
>     XFree86-Bigfont
>     XKEYBOARD
>     XTEST
>     XVideo
> default screen number:    0
> number of screens:    1
>
> screen #0:
>   dimensions:    1018x715 pixels (345x242 millimeters)
>   resolution:    75x75 dots per inch
>   depths (7):    32, 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 24
>   root window id:    0x36
>   depth of root window:    32 planes
>   number of colormaps:    minimum 1, maximum 1
>   default colormap:    0x20
>   default number of colormap cells:    2048
>   preallocated pixels:    black 0, white 16777215
>   options:    backing-store NO, save-unders NO
>   largest cursor:    1018x715
>   current input event mask:    0xd0001d
>     KeyPressMask             ButtonPressMask          ButtonReleaseMask
>     EnterWindowMask          SubstructureRedirectMask PropertyChangeMask
>
>     ColormapChangeMask
>   number of visuals:    2
>   default visual id:  0x22
>   visual:
>     visual id:    0x22
>     class:    TrueColor
>     depth:    32 planes
>     available colormap entries:    2048 per subfield
>     red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
>     significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
>   visual:
>     visual id:    0x23
>     class:    TrueColor
>     depth:    32 planes
>     available colormap entries:    2048 per subfield
>     red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
>     significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
> XWin.log (from just running XWin at the bash prompt)
> ====================================
> winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
> _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits
> per pixel
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l
> 0 b 715 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 4072
> winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
> 32
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 32
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> error opening security policy file
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,
> removing from list!
> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,
> removing from list!
> winWindowProc () - Closekey hit, quitting
> winCloseScreenShadowDDNL () - Freeing screen resources
>
>


From iburrell@znark.com  Thu Apr 25 16:36:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 16:36:00 -0000
Subject: bash ...
References: <3CC6BE90.944FB261@bms.umist.ac.uk> <000701c1eba0$c4cb3130$2153b80a@gooshy> <3CC7DBE6.399B2CBE@bms.umist.ac.uk> <001b01c1ec48$9acd49b0$2153b80a@gooshy>
Message-ID: <3CC89307.3050108@znark.com>

Scott Alexander wrote:
> If you have XWin.exe in the /usr/x11R6/bin directory then it should be
> installed.  Im not sure what doesn't exist when you say:
> 
> "and X is a soft link to XWin (which doesn't exist)"
> 

In the .tgz packages, /usr/X11R6/bin/X was a symlink to XWin. With 
Cygwin, XWin doesn't exist, XWin.exe does. This is fixed in the setup 
packages.

  - Ian
-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Thu Apr 25 16:53:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 16:53:00 -0000
Subject: Error Installing imlib 1.9.14
In-Reply-To: <20020425234813.85354.qmail@web14304.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20020425234813.85354.qmail@web14304.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020425235301.GD28862@redhat.com>

I've redirected your comment to the cygwin-xfree mailing list.

cgf

On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 04:48:13PM -0700, Peter None wrote:
>Thanks for your reply, Ive installed tiff-3.5.7.1 and
>tried to install imlib again, and now receive this
>error
>
>checking for jpeg_destroy_decompress in -ljpeg... yes
>checking for jpeglib.h... yes
>checking for TIFFReadScanline in -ltiff... yes
>checking for tiffio.h... (cached) no
>configure: error: *** TIFF header files not found ***
>
>Any Ideas?
>Thanks for your assistance.
>
>
>
>On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 09:49:50PM -0700, Peter None
>wrote:
>>Whilst installing this package, I get this configure
>>error: *** TIFF Library not found ***
>>I've installed ImageMagick-5.4.4 which seems to have
>>gone fine.
>>Below is the contents of the configure log.
>>
>>Any help finding a solution would be fantastic.
>
>http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-grep.cgi?grep=libtiff
>
>cgf
>
>
>
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From U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de  Thu Apr 25 23:58:00 2002
From: U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de (Uwe Schmidtmann)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 23:58:00 -0000
Subject: XKB not working
References: <3CC84735.E39D39D@emu.no-ip.org>
Message-ID: <3CC8FA7D.90908@visicon-online.de>

Hello.

I had a lot of problems with keyboard layouts as well with the older 
version of X on cygnu. Since them I am still using the following lines 
in my local .xinitrc:

sysmodmap=/etc/german.key

if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then
     xmodmap $sysmodmap
fi


This is a workaround but it works. The Keyboard mapping was read with 
xmodmap from my linux box...

I do not want to post the keyboard file here, but in case you need it, 
just let me know.

Regards,

Uwe

Edmund Urbani wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> Yesterday i installed cygwin with XFree 4.2.0. Everything worked fine
> from the start except that I could not set it up for my german keyboard
> layout. All I get, when I try to use eg. setxkbmap is a popup window
> (outside the X server as a normal Win2000-window) with this error
> message:
> 
> Failed assertion
> fds_on_hold !=NULL
> at line 643 of file
> /cygnus/netrel/src/cygwin-1.3.10-1/winsup/cygwin/dtable.cc
> 
> Other tools using XKB (like Kde Control Center) cause the same error.
> 
> I found an earlier post from Charles L. Werner on this list, who appears
> to have (had?) the same problem, but there does not seem to be a helpful
> reply to that one.
> As a workaround I am currently using xmodmap in the X server's startup
> scripts, but I would really prefer to use XKB instead.
> 
> So, any ideas what might be wrong with my X server? What is this
> fds_on_hold variable and that dtable.cc file all about, anyway?
> 
>  Edmund
> 
> 
> 
> 



From yuga@yuga.ru  Fri Apr 26 00:26:00 2002
From: yuga@yuga.ru (=?koi8-r?B?+sHRwyDhLuEu?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 00:26:00 -0000
Subject: Some nice screen shots
Message-ID: <944625821.20020426112544@yuga.ru>

Hello cygwin-xfree,

Some nice screen shots.. :0)

http://www.yuga.ru/img/kde/cygwin-kde0.gif
http://www.yuga.ru/img/kde/cygwin-kde1.gif
http://www.yuga.ru/img/kde/cygwin-kde3.gif
http://www.yuga.ru/img/kde/cygwin-kde4.gif  

-- 
Best regards,
 ????????                          mailto:yuga@yuga.ru


From emre.turkay@bilten.metu.edu.tr  Fri Apr 26 00:45:00 2002
From: emre.turkay@bilten.metu.edu.tr (Emre Turkay)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 00:45:00 -0000
Subject: gnome
Message-ID: <006901c1ecf7$7a06d570$45f67a90@aiur>

Hi, all.

Just wandering does anybody has tried to build Gnome for Cygwin ?  
Yes, I plan to..

emre


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From salexander@taz.qinetiq.com  Fri Apr 26 04:50:00 2002
From: salexander@taz.qinetiq.com (Scott Alexander)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 04:50:00 -0000
Subject: KDE 3.0 icons
Message-ID: 

Hi,

Im not sure if this is a XFree86 problem or not.  I use the command

x -query 

to hook up to a linux server so I can use kde via xfree86 and cygwin.  This
has been working great for me with the server running Redhat 7.2 and KDE
2.2.2,  however the server has just been updated to KDE 3.0 and now all my
icons have disapeared.

Does anyone know a solution/workaround for this or experienced it yet?

Cheers.
Scott Alexander


From exodus@psyon.org  Fri Apr 26 04:54:00 2002
From: exodus@psyon.org (Psyon)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 04:54:00 -0000
Subject: gnome
References: <006901c1ecf7$7a06d570$45f67a90@aiur>
Message-ID: <3CC93FFA.40700@psyon.org>

Yes, I have built it, it runs fine.

Emre Turkay wrote:

>Hi, all.
>
>Just wandering does anybody has tried to build Gnome for Cygwin ?  
>Yes, I plan to..
>
>emre
>
>
>




From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com  Fri Apr 26 05:05:00 2002
From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bkarnd))
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 05:05:00 -0000
Subject: XKB not working
Message-ID: 

I'm very satisfied with this solution to get my belgian keyboard working:

 xkbcomp -xkm -m be /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/be.xkm

 XWin +kb -xkbmap be -auth "$HOME/.Xauthority" -emulate3buttons 

-----Original Message-----
From: Edmund Urbani [mailto:emu@emu.no-ip.org]
Sent: donderdag 25 april 2002 19:13
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: XKB not working



Hi!

Yesterday i installed cygwin with XFree 4.2.0. Everything worked fine
from the start except that I could not set it up for my german keyboard
layout. All I get, when I try to use eg. setxkbmap is a popup window
(outside the X server as a normal Win2000-window) with this error
message:

Failed assertion
fds_on_hold !=NULL
at line 643 of file
/cygnus/netrel/src/cygwin-1.3.10-1/winsup/cygwin/dtable.cc

Other tools using XKB (like Kde Control Center) cause the same error.

I found an earlier post from Charles L. Werner on this list, who appears
to have (had?) the same problem, but there does not seem to be a helpful
reply to that one.
As a workaround I am currently using xmodmap in the X server's startup
scripts, but I would really prefer to use XKB instead.

So, any ideas what might be wrong with my X server? What is this
fds_on_hold variable and that dtable.cc file all about, anyway?

 Edmund



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From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com  Fri Apr 26 05:05:00 2002
From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bkarnd))
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 05:05:00 -0000
Subject: keyboard problem starting XFree86
Message-ID: 

peut-?tre comme ci-dessous?  (clavier belge)

 xkbcomp -xkm -m be /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/be.xkm

 XWin +kb -xkbmap be -auth "$HOME/.Xauthority" -emulate3buttons 

bonne chance

-----Original Message-----
From: jerome bauwens [mailto:jerome.bauwens@steria.com]
Sent: donderdag 25 april 2002 15:37
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: keyboard problem starting XFree86


I installed cygwin/xfree86 on windows 2000 to have a x-server (with the
default selection of packages and the packages from xfree/binaries/4.2.0)
The cygwin environment runs fine but the x-environment (using startx) has an
american keyboard (I use a french keyboard).
Could you tell me how to get my keyboard to work fine under the
x-environment.

Thanks.

Jerome BAUWENS.
jerome.bauwens@steria.com



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From cw@gamma-rs.ch  Fri Apr 26 05:12:00 2002
From: cw@gamma-rs.ch (Charles L. Werner)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 05:12:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin-xfree  performance using 127.0.0.1:0.0  vs computer_ip:0.0
Message-ID: <3CC94254.7040800@gamma-rs.ch>

Greetings,

I have noticed a significant speed penelty (factors of 2 to 10) when 
using 127.0.0.1 (localhost) versus my machines assigned IP
with cygwiw-xfree. This has been tested and verified for NT-4 SP5 and 
Win2K (SP2) on different PCs.

Any explanation?
remedy?

Cheers

Charles



From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr 26 06:54:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 06:54:00 -0000
Subject: KDE 3.0 icons
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Scott,

Drop your Windows screen depth from 32 bits per pixel to 24 or 16 bits per
pixel.

We're trying to work with the KDE folks to find out why thre is suddenly a
problem, but we've heard nothing from them so far.

Here is the KDE bug report status:
http://bugs.kde.org/db/40/40875.html


Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Scott Alexander
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 6:12 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: KDE 3.0 icons
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Im not sure if this is a XFree86 problem or not.  I use the command
>
> x -query 
>
> to hook up to a linux server so I can use kde via xfree86 and
> cygwin.  This
> has been working great for me with the server running Redhat 7.2 and KDE
> 2.2.2,  however the server has just been updated to KDE 3.0 and now all my
> icons have disapeared.
>
> Does anyone know a solution/workaround for this or experienced it yet?
>
> Cheers.
> Scott Alexander
>


From peter.kovacs@sysdata.siemens.hu  Fri Apr 26 07:43:00 2002
From: peter.kovacs@sysdata.siemens.hu (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Kov=E1cs_P=E9ter?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 07:43:00 -0000
Subject: CDE problem with Solaris 8
Message-ID: <000601c1ed29$b387d470$5dedca95@sysdata.siemens.hu>

Hi,

I am trying to connect to our Solaris 8 server with the following command to
no avail (the X server seems to restart over and over again):

/usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -noreset -ac -screen 0 1024 768 -query 158.226.199.9
-from 149.202.237.93 -fp tcp/158.226.199.9:7100&

(I can successfully connect with Exceed to the seem machine using CDE login.
With the same Cygwin setup I am also able to successfully use CDE with a
Solaris 2.6 server.)

For the Solaris 8 server, Xwin outputs the following log

ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 13 i: 3
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits per
pixel
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winWindowProc () - Closekey hit, quitting

Any idea?

Thank you

Peter


From emu@emu.no-ip.org  Fri Apr 26 08:35:00 2002
From: emu@emu.no-ip.org (Edmund Urbani)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 08:35:00 -0000
Subject: XKB not working
References: 
Message-ID: <3CC967E9.53415F3D@emu.no-ip.org>


"Pille Geert (bkarnd)" wrote:

> I'm very satisfied with this solution to get my belgian keyboard working:
>
>  xkbcomp -xkm -m be /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/be.xkm
>
>  XWin +kb -xkbmap be -auth "$HOME/.Xauthority" -emulate3buttons
>

Thanks a lot. That works perfectly fine for me too.

 Edmund


From huntharo@pilot.msu.edu  Fri Apr 26 09:26:00 2002
From: huntharo@pilot.msu.edu (Harold Leatherman Hunt II)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:26:00 -0000
Subject: CDE problem with Solaris 8
In-Reply-To: <000601c1ed29$b387d470$5dedca95@sysdata.siemens.hu> from "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Kov=E1cs_P=E9ter?=" at Apr 26, 2002 03:53:10 pm
Message-ID: <200204261533.g3QFXfn37204@pilot24.cl.msu.edu>

Peter,

To rule out any problems with bash... please use a modified startxwin.bat
(which you should have in /usr/X11R6/bin if you installed the startup-scripts
package as per the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide installation instructions).

You should only have to change the line:
start /B XWin ...

to:
start /B XWin -query 158.226.199.9 -fp tcp/158.226.199.9:7100

Note: do not use the -screen 0 1024 768 parameter, and to start with do not
use the -noreset and -ac parameters.

It seems that the X Server is trying to create about 10 screens, as it
initializes several of them without ever closing any of them.  So, it isn't
really reseting, it's just spawning tons of screens.

Also, please make sure that Exceed is not running *at all* when you are trying
to run Cygwin/XFree86, as they both try to listen on the same network port, so
this will obviously cause problems.

Also, please reboot your Windows machine before experimenting, as we've had at
least one user report troubles only to realize that he had several failed
XWin.exe processes still running, thus preventing new processes from running
correctly.

Let us know what happens,

Harold


>
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to connect to our Solaris 8 server with the following command to
> no avail (the X server seems to restart over and over again):
>
> /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -noreset -ac -screen 0 1024 768 -query 158.226.199.9
> -from 149.202.237.93 -fp tcp/158.226.199.9:7100&
>
> (I can successfully connect with Exceed to the seem machine using CDE login.
> With the same Cygwin setup I am also able to successfully use CDE with a
> Solaris 2.6 server.)
>
> For the Solaris 8 server, Xwin outputs the following log
>
> ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
> winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
> ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 13 i: 3
> _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits per
> pixel
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
> 742 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
> 742 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
> 742 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
> 742 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
> 742 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
> 742 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
> 742 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
> 742 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
> 742 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
> 742 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winWindowProc () - Closekey hit, quitting
>
> Any idea?
>
> Thank you
>
> Peter
>
>


From peter.kovacs@sysdata.siemens.hu  Fri Apr 26 09:39:00 2002
From: peter.kovacs@sysdata.siemens.hu (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Kov=E1cs_P=E9ter?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:39:00 -0000
Subject: CDE problem with Solaris 8
References: <200204261533.g3QFXfn37204@pilot24.cl.msu.edu>
Message-ID: <000501c1ed3f$0d8e59c0$5dedca95@sysdata.siemens.hu>

Hi,

I am trying to connect to our Solaris 8 server with the following command to
no avail (the X server seems to restart over and over again):

/usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -noreset -ac -screen 0 1024 768 -query 158.226.199.9
-from 149.202.237.93 -fp tcp/158.226.199.9:7100&

(I can successfully connect with Exceed to the seem machine using CDE login.
With the same Cygwin setup I am also able to successfully use CDE with a
Solaris 2.6 server.)

For the Solaris 8 server, Xwin outputs the following log

ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 13 i: 3
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits per
pixel
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winWindowProc () - Closekey hit, quitting

Any idea?

Thank you

Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Leatherman Hunt II" 
To: ; 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: CDE problem with Solaris 8


> Peter,
>
> To rule out any problems with bash... please use a modified startxwin.bat
> (which you should have in /usr/X11R6/bin if you installed the
startup-scripts
> package as per the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide installation instructions).
>
> You should only have to change the line:
> start /B XWin ...
>
> to:
> start /B XWin -query 158.226.199.9 -fp tcp/158.226.199.9:7100
>
> Note: do not use the -screen 0 1024 768 parameter, and to start with do
not
> use the -noreset and -ac parameters.
>
> It seems that the X Server is trying to create about 10 screens, as it
> initializes several of them without ever closing any of them.  So, it
isn't
> really reseting, it's just spawning tons of screens.
>
> Also, please make sure that Exceed is not running *at all* when you are
trying
> to run Cygwin/XFree86, as they both try to listen on the same network
port, so
> this will obviously cause problems.
>
> Also, please reboot your Windows machine before experimenting, as we've
had at
> least one user report troubles only to realize that he had several failed
> XWin.exe processes still running, thus preventing new processes from
running
> correctly.
>
> Let us know what happens,
>
> Harold
>
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am trying to connect to our Solaris 8 server with the following
command to
> > no avail (the X server seems to restart over and over again):
> >
> > /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -noreset -ac -screen 0 1024 768 -query 158.226.199.9
> > -from 149.202.237.93 -fp tcp/158.226.199.9:7100&
> >
> > (I can successfully connect with Exceed to the seem machine using CDE
login.
> > With the same Cygwin setup I am also able to successfully use CDE with a
> > Solaris 2.6 server.)
> >
> > For the Solaris 8 server, Xwin outputs the following log
> >
> > ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
> > winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
> > ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 13 i: 3
> > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits
per
> > pixel
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b
> > 742 t 0
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b
> > 742 t 0
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b
> > 742 t 0
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b
> > 742 t 0
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b
> > 742 t 0
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b
> > 742 t 0
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b
> > 742 t 0
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b
> > 742 t 0
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b
> > 742 t 0
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b
> > 742 t 0
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> > winWindowProc () - Closekey hit, quitting
> >
> > Any idea?
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
>


From peter.kovacs@sysdata.siemens.hu  Fri Apr 26 09:46:00 2002
From: peter.kovacs@sysdata.siemens.hu (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Kov=E1cs_P=E9ter?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:46:00 -0000
Subject: CDE problem with Solaris 8
References: <200204261533.g3QFXfn37204@pilot24.cl.msu.edu>
Message-ID: <001201c1ed40$e5058a80$5dedca95@sysdata.siemens.hu>

Harold,

Thank you for your reply. I tried what you suggested and observed a
similar behaviour as previously. As much as I can tell the XWin.log is
also very similar except for the AUDIT entries:

ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits
per pixel
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b 742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
AUDIT: Fri Apr 26 17:55:43 2002: 248 XWin: client 1 rejected from IP
127.0.0.1 port 3598
AUDIT: Fri Apr 26 17:55:43 2002: 248 XWin: client 2 rejected from IP
127.0.0.1 port 3599
AUDIT: Fri Apr 26 17:55:43 2002: 248 XWin: client 1 rejected from IP
127.0.0.1 port 3600
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b 742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b 742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning

Any more tips?

Thank you.

Peter


From peter.kovacs@sysdata.siemens.hu  Fri Apr 26 13:56:00 2002
From: peter.kovacs@sysdata.siemens.hu (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Kov=E1cs_P=E9ter?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 13:56:00 -0000
Subject: Mail problem
Message-ID: <000b01c1ed41$d8195300$5dedca95@sysdata.siemens.hu>

Hi,

Sorry for this being very far off topic but I keep getting this kind of
error messages (see below) in response to my mails when I try to send them
from Outlook. This is despite the fact that I think I am sending TEXT-format
messages. I have to switch between Outlook (for receiving) and Outlook
Express (for sending) the latter not producing this kind of error. (I have
never had this kind of problem with Outlook with any other mailing lists
bevor.)

Please, could someone tell me what to do?

Thank you

Peter


Hi. This is the qmail-send program at sources.redhat.com.

I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.

This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

:

ezmlm-reject: fatal: Sorry, a message part has an unacceptable MIME
Content-Type: text/html (#5.2.3)



From freeweb@nyckelpiga.de  Fri Apr 26 22:23:00 2002
From: freeweb@nyckelpiga.de (Gerrit P. Haase)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 22:23:00 -0000
Subject: Error Installing imlib 1.9.14
In-Reply-To: <20020425235301.GD28862@redhat.com>
References: <20020425234813.85354.qmail@web14304.mail.yahoo.com>
 <20020425235301.GD28862@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1881257754945.20020426225538@familiehaase.de>

>>Thanks for your reply, Ive installed tiff-3.5.7.1 and
>>tried to install imlib again, and now receive this
>>error
>>
>>checking for jpeg_destroy_decompress in -ljpeg... yes
>>checking for jpeglib.h... yes
>>checking for TIFFReadScanline in -ltiff... yes
>>checking for tiffio.h... (cached) no
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>configure: error: *** TIFF header files not found ***

Remove config.cache and reconfigure.
And make sure that tiffio.h is in place.


Gerrit
-- 
=^..^=


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sat Apr 27 01:53:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 01:53:00 -0000
Subject: "F1" binding on twm failed.
In-Reply-To: <3CC7CD1C.9020200@one2team.com>
Message-ID: 

Christian,

This question is really off-topic for this mailing list.  twm is a window
manager that is included with several X distributions, including XFree86.
Abundant documentation exists for twm from twm-specific sources.

On Google I found tons of twm resources, such as the man page and some
sample .twmrc files:
http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/X11R6.1/man/programs/twm.html
http://physics.wm.edu/unix_intro/loginmht/twmrc.html
http://www.strath.ac.uk/CC/Courses/oldXC/subsection3_9_2.html


I was able to get the iconify function mapped to F1 like so:
cp /etc/X11/twm/system.twmrc ~/.twmrc

Then, I edited ~/.twmrc with emacs and added the line that you had to the
end of the file.  I started up Cygwin/XFree86 and the iconify function
worked correctly.  You have to be aware, however, that using f.iconify from
the keyboard is a little different than using the iconify function on the
twm menu.  When you press F1 the mouse cursor has to be over the root window
and the mouse cursor does not change to a black circle like it does with the
iconify menu command.  However, the next window title that you click on
(yes, it has to be the title) will get iconified.

So, the behavior is a little strange, but I can't tell you if this is
different than the way binding F1 to inconify would work on, say, Linux.


Good luck,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christian P. Momon
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 5:32 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: "F1" binding on twm failed.
>
>
>
>   Hi,
>
>   I am trying to configure my twmrc, so i add:
> "F1" =  : all : f.iconify
>
>   But, it doesnt work.
>
> I use Xfree86 4.2.0 with xwinclip-Test03.exe.bz2.
>
> Nothing in guide, archive and google. I need help.
>
>   Thanks.
>
>   Cpm.
> --
> Christian MOMON
> ONE2TEAM R&D
> cmomon@ONE2TEAM.com
>


From sam.edge@ntlworld.com  Sat Apr 27 20:17:00 2002
From: sam.edge@ntlworld.com (Sam Edge)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 20:17:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe package problem
Message-ID: <0bokcu4kvh73ffmi36s99rv5vkh2pgle8q@4ax.com>

I've just expunged a working /etc/X11 and /usr/X11R6 and used
SETUP.EXE to install XFree86 4.2.0 via setup.exe on a Windows 95
Cygwin installation.

Everything went well except that several symbolic links were missing
and I had to enter the following by hand;

ln -s /etc/X11/app-defaults /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults
ln -s /etc/X11/fs /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fs
ln -s /etc/X11/lbxproxy /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/lbxproxy
ln -s /etc/X11/proxymngr /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/proxymngr
ln -s /etc/X11/rstart /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rstart
ln -s /etc/X11/twm /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/twm
ln -s /etc/X11/xdm /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm
ln -s /etc/X11/xinit /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit
ln -s /etc/X11/xserver /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver
ln -s /etc/X11/xsm /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xsm

These are the directories that are more normally copied or links from
Xinstall.sh as the ETCDLINKS list.

Why not have either a post-install script or have the XFree86-base tar
archive contain them?

-- 
Sam Edge


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sat Apr 27 21:32:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 21:32:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe package problem
In-Reply-To: <0bokcu4kvh73ffmi36s99rv5vkh2pgle8q@4ax.com>
Message-ID: 

Sam,

That's because I screwed up when I modified Ian's build.sh script.  I forgot
to make the symbolic links part of the Xlib package... and I think I
accidentally made the Xetc package contain invalid links.  Oh well.  I fixed
it now, I think.

I put a new setup.ini and XFree86-lib-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2 at
ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/

Chris: What do I do to get the new XFree86-lib file onto the mirrors?  Do
you want to take care of that (in general), or should I be updating my
packages via ssh?  Would I have the necessary premissions for that?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Sam Edge
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 4:51 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe package problem
>
>
> I've just expunged a working /etc/X11 and /usr/X11R6 and used
> SETUP.EXE to install XFree86 4.2.0 via setup.exe on a Windows 95
> Cygwin installation.
>
> Everything went well except that several symbolic links were missing
> and I had to enter the following by hand;
>
> ln -s /etc/X11/app-defaults /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults
> ln -s /etc/X11/fs /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fs
> ln -s /etc/X11/lbxproxy /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/lbxproxy
> ln -s /etc/X11/proxymngr /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/proxymngr
> ln -s /etc/X11/rstart /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rstart
> ln -s /etc/X11/twm /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/twm
> ln -s /etc/X11/xdm /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm
> ln -s /etc/X11/xinit /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit
> ln -s /etc/X11/xserver /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver
> ln -s /etc/X11/xsm /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xsm
>
> These are the directories that are more normally copied or links from
> Xinstall.sh as the ETCDLINKS list.
>
> Why not have either a post-install script or have the XFree86-base tar
> archive contain them?
>
> --
> Sam Edge


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sat Apr 27 23:05:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 23:05:00 -0000
Subject: build.sh
In-Reply-To: <3CC89307.3050108@znark.com>
Message-ID: 

Ian,

ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/build.sh

Here's a link to my most recent modification of your build.sh for packaging
Cygwin/XFree86.  You might want to take a look at it... I think it's pretty
interesting.

I've been thinking that maybe a Makefile version of this might be more
useful, as it would prevent the rebuilding of packages that haven't had
their XFree86 package updated.

What are your thoughts on that one?

Others: feel free to chime in.

Harold


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Sun Apr 28 03:33:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 03:33:00 -0000
Subject: build.sh
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 2:33 PM

> I've been thinking that maybe a Makefile version of this 
> might be more useful, as it would prevent the rebuilding of 
> packages that haven't had their XFree86 package updated.

Makes sense to me.

Rob


From sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com  Sun Apr 28 07:31:00 2002
From: sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com (Sam Edge)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 07:31:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe package problem
In-Reply-To: 
References: <0bokcu4kvh73ffmi36s99rv5vkh2pgle8q@4ax.com> 
Message-ID: 

You wrote in 
in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Sat, 27 Apr 2002 23:17:07 -0400:

> That's because I screwed up when I modified Ian's build.sh script.  I forgot
> to make the symbolic links part of the Xlib package... and I think I
> accidentally made the Xetc package contain invalid links.  Oh well.  I fixed
> it now, I think.

Anything that makes less work for me. Thanks. :-)

(All five symbolic links under /etc/X11 seem to be valid, by the way.)

-- 
Sam Edge


From lukekendall@optushome.com.au  Sun Apr 28 07:38:00 2002
From: lukekendall@optushome.com.au (lukekendall@optushome.com.au)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 07:38:00 -0000
Subject: A small contribution
Message-ID: <200204281431.g3SEVJ910599@posh.localdomain>

I read through the contributors guide, but couldn't find any mention of
how to contribute a binary port of a utility.  So after considerable
hunting around the web site, trying to find out how to make such a
contribution, I found the above vaguely-likely address.

If that's wrong, could someone be kind enough to forward this on to the
relevant person?

The contribution is simply a build of the Window Maker window manager
(http://www.windowmaker.org/) for Cygwin/Xfree86.  It's linked to from
a write-up on setting up your X on Windows, and using it to display
parts of your Unix desktop on your windows machine, at:
http://members.optushome.com.au/lukekendall/xwin-network.html

My initial (5MB) binary package for Window Maker is
http://members.optushome.com.au/lukekendall/bins/wmaker-0.80.0-cygwin.tar.gz
(I'm going to try it out at work in a few days on a "cold"
installation, and see if I managed to collect all the components
together properly.)

Please let me know if *any* of this is useful.  Personally I think one
thing that might be holding back Cygwin-Xfree86's usefulness is the very
primitive twm window manager that comes as the default with the
installation.

Would a better place for extra binaries (for a judicious assortment of
a few window managers), be
ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0/ ?
I have limited space on my web site, so the 5MB WM package, above, is
stretching it a bit.

Oh, and so this isn't entirely off the proper topic:  the link for
Sergey Orkhapin on the page http://cygwin.com/xfree/ is borken:
http://miracle.geol.msu.ru/sos/ doesn't exist.

luke


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Sun Apr 28 11:14:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 11:14:00 -0000
Subject: A small contribution
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: lukekendall@optushome.com.au 
> [mailto:lukekendall@optushome.com.au] 
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:31 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Cc: Luke at work
> Subject: A small contribution
> 
> 
> I read through the contributors guide, but couldn't find any 
> mention of how to contribute a binary port of a utility.  So 
> after considerable hunting around the web site, trying to 
> find out how to make such a contribution, I found the above 
> vaguely-likely address.

Have a look at http://www.cygwin.com/setup.html.
 
Cheers,
Rob


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Apr 28 17:03:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 17:03:00 -0000
Subject: A small contribution
In-Reply-To: <200204281431.g3SEVJ910599@posh.localdomain>
Message-ID: 

Luke,

> Oh, and so this isn't entirely off the proper topic:  the link for
> Sergey Orkhapin on the page http://cygwin.com/xfree/ is borken:
> http://miracle.geol.msu.ru/sos/ doesn't exist.

Okay, I removed the link.  That was pretty much the only option since
searching Google for the roman spelling of his name (he's Russian) only
produced the link to that page, which as you said is no longer existent.  I
couldn't find him listed anywhere on Moscow State University's Geology site,
so I'll just have to assume that he's moved on...

> My initial (5MB) binary package for Window Maker is
> http://members.optushome.com.au/lukekendall/bins/wmaker-0.80.0-cyg
> win.tar.gz

I've put this package on the mirror network.  It should should up within 24
hours.  The directory is xfree/contrib/, so a sample URL would be:
http://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/xfree/contrib/wmaker-0.80.0-cyg
win.tar.gz

I've also added Window Maker to the Ported Software page:
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ported-software.html


Hope that helps,

Harold


From thesnake1978@yahoo.com  Sun Apr 28 17:26:00 2002
From: thesnake1978@yahoo.com (Peter None)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 17:26:00 -0000
Subject: Error Installing imlib 1.9.14
In-Reply-To: <1881257754945.20020426225538@familiehaase.de>
Message-ID: <20020429000312.36086.qmail@web14306.mail.yahoo.com>

Gerrit, your suggestions fixed my problem, thanks!
Although now I get an error during the compile process
and Im unsure why ?? Any ideas ?
Thank You

libtool: link: warning: undefined symbols not allowed
in i686-pc-cygwin shared l
ibraries
rm -fr .libs/libimlib-gif.la .libs/libimlib-gif.*
.libs/libimlib-gif.*
ar cru .libs/libimlib-gif.a  io-gif.o
ranlib .libs/libimlib-gif.a
creating libimlib-gif.la
(cd .libs && rm -f libimlib-gif.la && ln -s
../libimlib-gif.la libimlib-gif.la)
cd .libs && PREFIX=/opt/gnome sh ../../mkdll.sh
libimlib-gif.la -L/usr/local/lib
 -lungif -L. -lgdk_imlib $(gtk-config --libs)
gcc -shared -o cygimlib-gif.dll
-Wl,--out-implib=libimlib-gif.dll.a -Wl,--export
-all-symbols -Wl,--whole-archive libimlib-gif.a
-Wl,--no-whole-archive -L/usr/lo
cal/lib -lungif -L. -lgdk_imlib -L/opt/gnome/lib
-L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -l
gmodule -lglib -lintl -lXext -lX11
Creating library file: libimlib-gif.dll.a
libimlib-gif.a(io-gif.o.b)(.text+0x146):io-gif.c:
undefined reference to `_gdk_m
alloc_image'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [libimlib-gif.la] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/gnome/build/imlib-1.9.14/gdk_imlib'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/gnome/build/imlib-1.9.14'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2




--- "Gerrit P. Haase"  wrote:
> >>Thanks for your reply, Ive installed tiff-3.5.7.1
> and
> >>tried to install imlib again, and now receive this
> >>error
> >>
> >>checking for jpeg_destroy_decompress in -ljpeg...
> yes
> >>checking for jpeglib.h... yes
> >>checking for TIFFReadScanline in -ltiff... yes
> >>checking for tiffio.h... (cached) no
>                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >>configure: error: *** TIFF header files not found
> ***
> 
> Remove config.cache and reconfigure.
> And make sure that tiffio.h is in place.
> 
> 
> Gerrit
> -- 
> =^..^=
> 


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Apr 28 18:10:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 18:10:00 -0000
Subject: Error Installing imlib 1.9.14
In-Reply-To: <20020429000312.36086.qmail@web14306.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

Peter,

In this command,
> gcc -shared -o cygimlib-gif.dll
> -Wl,--out-implib=libimlib-gif.dll.a -Wl,--export
> -all-symbols -Wl,--whole-archive libimlib-gif.a
> -Wl,--no-whole-archive -L/usr/lo
> cal/lib -lungif -L. -lgdk_imlib -L/opt/gnome/lib
> -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -l
> gmodule -lglib -lintl -lXext -lX11

you are getting the error,
> undefined reference to `_gdk_m
> alloc_image'

which means that you have to move the -lgdk or -lgdk_imlib so that it
appears in the link sequence after all libraries that depend on it.

The reason for this is simple: the list of things to link is walked from
left to right creating a list of references, which are checked against the
remaining libraries on the list that might have those symbols defined.  At
no point does the linker say, "Ah ha, I've got a symbol here that is
undefined, let me go back and check the list of things to link for this
symbol".  That would result in ridiculus link times.  Move the gdk or
gdk_imlib libs towards the end of the list (experiment with this) and the
linker will be happy.


Now, you can gain some additional insight by figuring out which library or
object file contains io-gif.c, as this file has the undefined reference to
_gdk_malloc_image.  Then find out which library contains gdk_malloc_image
(probably gdk or gdk_imlib).  Then move the corresponding library later in
the list.

There is one other possibility: the version of imlib-gif that you are trying
to build depends on a newer (or older) version of gdk or gdk-imlib that
contains gdk_malloc_image, while your version of gdk or gdk_imlib does not
have that symbol.  Look into this and report.


Harold


From redhatcat@fastdial.net  Sun Apr 28 19:20:00 2002
From: redhatcat@fastdial.net (redhatcat)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 19:20:00 -0000
Subject: fyi - another choice : openbox works on cygwin/xfree86. 
Message-ID: <002201c1ef1a$b69bb350$1608f3d8@americas.cpqcorp.net>

fyi - another choice : openbox works on cygwin/xfree86.  The "stable code"
complied out of the box for me.  ( Blackbox derivative)

http://openbox.sunsite.dk/





From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Apr 28 21:06:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 21:06:00 -0000
Subject: fyi - another choice : openbox works on cygwin/xfree86. 
In-Reply-To: <002201c1ef1a$b69bb350$1608f3d8@americas.cpqcorp.net>
Message-ID: 

I just made a Cygwin setup.exe package (and accompanying setup.ini) for
this.  Could somebody please point setup.exe at this site and verify that it
works for them (works for me):
ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/openbox/

Heh... that was pretty easy.

I haven't quite mastered making a source package yet... that will come later
(it's finals week).

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of redhatcat
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 9:11 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: fyi - another choice : openbox works on cygwin/xfree86.
>
>
> fyi - another choice : openbox works on cygwin/xfree86.  The "stable code"
> complied out of the box for me.  ( Blackbox derivative)
>
> http://openbox.sunsite.dk/
>
>
>
>


From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr 29 01:58:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 01:58:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe package problem
In-Reply-To: 
References: <0bokcu4kvh73ffmi36s99rv5vkh2pgle8q@4ax.com> 
Message-ID: <20020429040608.GA28200@redhat.com>

On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 11:17:07PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>Chris: What do I do to get the new XFree86-lib file onto the mirrors?  Do
>you want to take care of that (in general), or should I be updating my
>packages via ssh?  Would I have the necessary premissions for that?

You have the permissions to update yourself, Harold.  The directory in
question is /sourceware/ftp/anonftp/pub/cygwin/release/XFree86/ .

Go for it!

cgf


From strube@physik3.gwdg.de  Mon Apr 29 07:30:00 2002
From: strube@physik3.gwdg.de (Hans Werner Strube)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 07:30:00 -0000
Subject: XKB not working
Message-ID: <200204290857.KAA27545@r2d2.physik3.gwdg.de>

> From: Edmund Urbani 
>
> "Pille Geert (bkarnd)" wrote:
> 
> > I'm very satisfied with this solution to get my belgian keyboard working:
> >
> >  xkbcomp -xkm -m be /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/be.xkm
> >
> >  XWin +kb -xkbmap be -auth "$HOME/.Xauthority" -emulate3buttons
> >
> 
> Thanks a lot. That works perfectly fine for me too.

This also works for German (de instead of be), although xkbcomp issued
many warnings about missing keycodes (possibly due to the laptop keyboard,
having less keys). But how can one make de.xkm the default, without
having to specify -xkbmap de each time? According to /etc/X11/xkm/README,
I tried copying de.xkm to /etc/X11/xkb/X0-default.xkm or
/etc/X11/xkb/compiled/X0-default.xkm, but without success. (Of course, I first
made the missing symlink /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb -> /etc/X11/xkb, removed the
looping symlink /etc/X11/xkb/compiled and made this a real directory.)


From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Mon Apr 29 07:31:00 2002
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 07:31:00 -0000
Subject: XWin -help behavior
Message-ID: 

I just noticed today that if I run "XWin -help", I don't see anything at the 
command-line.  I have to go look in /tmp/XWin.log to see the results.

Would it make send to print this information to STERR instead of the log 
file?


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 07:40:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 07:40:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox setup.exe packages available for testing
Message-ID: 

Point setup.exe at:
ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/

There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86 packages plus
WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.

I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do an install on
there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.

Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the generic Cygwin
build script), so each of these new packages has a source file as well (if
you wish to see what was changed to make them compile on Cygwin).

Enjoy,

Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 07:41:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 07:41:00 -0000
Subject: XWin -help behavior
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Thomas,

Yes, that's a great idea.  There is one problem though.  We redirect the
ErrorF function (which prints out all messages, including the --help
message) before we know that a --help parameter is coming down the line.
When the --help is processed is calls a UseMsg function that then calls a
module-UseMsg function for each part of the XFree86 server.  By the time
that ddxUseMsg (that's the hardware layer's (our's) UseMsg function) gets
called we have already printed out 90% of the help text, so there is very
little point in redirecting our portion of the help message to STDERR.

The solution lies in creating an overly-complicated ErrorF system that
buffers the output until we have processed all command-line parameters.  I
don't have time to do that, do you?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Chadwick
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:31 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: XWin -help behavior
>
>
> I just noticed today that if I run "XWin -help", I don't see
> anything at the
> command-line.  I have to go look in /tmp/XWin.log to see the results.
>
> Would it make send to print this information to STERR instead of the log
> file?
>
>
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From sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com  Mon Apr 29 07:44:00 2002
From: sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com (Sam Edge)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 07:44:00 -0000
Subject: XWin -help behavior
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <0jmqcuk95gujm3eo3ffcvvrvn086eq3v01@4ax.com>

Thomas Chadwick wrote in 
in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Mon, 29 Apr 2002 10:30:40 -0400:

> I just noticed today that if I run "XWin -help", I don't see anything at the 
> command-line.  I have to go look in /tmp/XWin.log to see the results.
> Would it make send to print this information to STERR instead of the log 
> file?

XWin.exe is linked as a Windows GUI application to stop it requiring
the creation of a console window so it doesn't have redirectable
standard I/O.

-- 
Sam Edge


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 07:48:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 07:48:00 -0000
Subject: XWin -help behavior
In-Reply-To: <0jmqcuk95gujm3eo3ffcvvrvn086eq3v01@4ax.com>
Message-ID: 

Sam,

Thanks, I forgot that point.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Sam Edge
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:40 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: XWin -help behavior
> 
> 
> Thomas Chadwick wrote in 
> in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Mon, 29 Apr 2002 10:30:40 -0400:
> 
> > I just noticed today that if I run "XWin -help", I don't see 
> anything at the 
> > command-line.  I have to go look in /tmp/XWin.log to see the results.
> > Would it make send to print this information to STERR instead 
> of the log 
> > file?
> 
> XWin.exe is linked as a Windows GUI application to stop it requiring
> the creation of a console window so it doesn't have redirectable
> standard I/O.
> 
> -- 
> Sam Edge


From rrdrake@sandia.gov  Mon Apr 29 08:04:00 2002
From: rrdrake@sandia.gov (Richard Drake)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:04:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox
 setup.exepackages available for testing
References: 
Message-ID: <3CCD5D36.4DBC9599@sandia.gov>

Harold,

I tried pointing setup.exe to ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to connect and then comes back with "Unable to get setup.ini from ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/".  I'm a relative newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see that directory with my browser).

-rich

PS:  Love the cygwin & cygwin/xfree products!


Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> Point setup.exe at:
> ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> 
> There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86 packages plus
> WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
> 
> I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do an install on
> there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
> 
> Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the generic Cygwin
> build script), so each of these new packages has a source file as well (if
> you wish to see what was changed to make them compile on Cygwin).
> 
> Enjoy,
> 
> Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 08:20:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:20:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox setup.exepackages available for testing
In-Reply-To: <3CCD5D36.4DBC9599@sandia.gov>
Message-ID: 

Richard,

Hmm... you mention that you can see the directory with your browser... that
means that your browser has a connection open to my ftp server... and I'm
not sure how many connections my server allows per host.  Thus, you may want
to close your browser, wait a few minutes, then open setup.exe and try to
connect again (without opening your web browser to that address).  That may
help...

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:48 AM
> To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox
> setup.exepackages available for testing
>
>
> Harold,
>
> I tried pointing setup.exe to
> ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to connect
> and then comes back with "Unable to get setup.ini from
> ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/".  I'm a relative
> newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see that
> directory with my browser).
>
> -rich
>
> PS:  Love the cygwin & cygwin/xfree products!
>
>
> Harold Hunt wrote:
> >
> > Point setup.exe at:
> > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> >
> > There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86 packages plus
> > WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
> >
> > I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do an
> install on
> > there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
> >
> > Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the
> generic Cygwin
> > build script), so each of these new packages has a source file
> as well (if
> > you wish to see what was changed to make them compile on Cygwin).
> >
> > Enjoy,
> >
> > Harold
>


From rrdrake@sandia.gov  Mon Apr 29 08:28:00 2002
From: rrdrake@sandia.gov (Richard Drake)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:28:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
 Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
References: 
Message-ID: <3CCD64BC.46472A22@sandia.gov>

Harold,

still no luck.  we need another data point to isolate the problem .. somebody else needs to try to point setup.exe to that location...

-rich

Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> Richard,
> 
> Hmm... you mention that you can see the directory with your browser... that
> means that your browser has a connection open to my ftp server... and I'm
> not sure how many connections my server allows per host.  Thus, you may want
> to close your browser, wait a few minutes, then open setup.exe and try to
> connect again (without opening your web browser to that address).  That may
> help...
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:48 AM
> > To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox
> > setup.exepackages available for testing
> >
> >
> > Harold,
> >
> > I tried pointing setup.exe to
> > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to connect
> > and then comes back with "Unable to get setup.ini from
> > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/".  I'm a relative
> > newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see that
> > directory with my browser).
> >
> > -rich
> >
> > PS:  Love the cygwin & cygwin/xfree products!
> >
> >
> > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > >
> > > Point setup.exe at:
> > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> > >
> > > There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86 packages plus
> > > WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
> > >
> > > I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do an
> > install on
> > > there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
> > >
> > > Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the
> > generic Cygwin
> > > build script), so each of these new packages has a source file
> > as well (if
> > > you wish to see what was changed to make them compile on Cygwin).
> > >
> > > Enjoy,
> > >
> > > Harold
> >


From salexander@taz.qinetiq.com  Mon Apr 29 08:31:00 2002
From: salexander@taz.qinetiq.com (Scott Alexander)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:31:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
References:  <3CCD64BC.46472A22@sandia.gov>
Message-ID: <002101c1ef93$246a9400$2153b80a@gooshy>

Just pointed my setup.exe to Harold's ftp server and I get no response from
it.  I can access it from ncftp and get

ncftp / > ls
pub/

ncftp /pub > ls
cygwin/  mth496/

ncftp /pub/cygwin > ls
Xbin.tgz                  Xfsrv.tgz                 Xps.tgz
Xdoc.tgz                  Xhtml.tgz                 Xvfb.tgz
Xetc.tgz                  Xjdoc.tgz                 Xxserv.tgz
Xf100.tgz                 Xlib.tgz                  build.sh
Xfcyr.tgz                 Xman.tgz                  move.sh
Xfenc.tgz                 Xnest.tgz                 release/
Xfnts.tgz                 Xprog.tgz                 setup.ini
Xfscl.tgz                 Xprt.tgz                  startup-scripts.tgz

Cheers
Scott Alexander
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Drake" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing


> Harold,
>
> still no luck.  we need another data point to isolate the problem ..
somebody else needs to try to point setup.exe to that location...
>
> -rich
>
> Harold Hunt wrote:
> >
> > Richard,
> >
> > Hmm... you mention that you can see the directory with your browser...
that
> > means that your browser has a connection open to my ftp server... and
I'm
> > not sure how many connections my server allows per host.  Thus, you may
want
> > to close your browser, wait a few minutes, then open setup.exe and try
to
> > connect again (without opening your web browser to that address).  That
may
> > help...
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:48 AM
> > > To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox
> > > setup.exepackages available for testing
> > >
> > >
> > > Harold,
> > >
> > > I tried pointing setup.exe to
> > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to connect
> > > and then comes back with "Unable to get setup.ini from
> > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/".  I'm a relative
> > > newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see that
> > > directory with my browser).
> > >
> > > -rich
> > >
> > > PS:  Love the cygwin & cygwin/xfree products!
> > >
> > >
> > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Point setup.exe at:
> > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> > > >
> > > > There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86 packages plus
> > > > WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
> > > >
> > > > I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do an
> > > install on
> > > > there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
> > > >
> > > > Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the
> > > generic Cygwin
> > > > build script), so each of these new packages has a source file
> > > as well (if
> > > > you wish to see what was changed to make them compile on Cygwin).
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy,
> > > >
> > > > Harold
> > >
>


From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Mon Apr 29 08:31:00 2002
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:31:00 -0000
Subject: XWin -help behavior
Message-ID: 

Aha.  I see now that "man XWin" and "man Xserver" are a preferable 
alternative to "Xwin -help" anyway.

>From: "Harold Hunt" 
>To: 
>Subject: RE: XWin -help behavior
>Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 10:44:36 -0400
>
>Sam,
>
>Thanks, I forgot that point.
>
>Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Sam Edge
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:40 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: XWin -help behavior
> >
> >
> > Thomas Chadwick wrote in 
> > in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Mon, 29 Apr 2002 10:30:40 -0400:
> >
> > > I just noticed today that if I run "XWin -help", I don't see
> > anything at the
> > > command-line.  I have to go look in /tmp/XWin.log to see the results.
> > > Would it make send to print this information to STERR instead
> > of the log
> > > file?
> >
> > XWin.exe is linked as a Windows GUI application to stop it requiring
> > the creation of a console window so it doesn't have redirectable
> > standard I/O.
> >
> > --
> > Sam Edge


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 08:42:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:42:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
In-Reply-To: <3CCD64BC.46472A22@sandia.gov>
Message-ID: 

Rich,

I was able to connect to huntharo-4 and grab setup.ini with setup.exe from
my other machine just fine.

Do you have a firewall or proxy server?  Have you told setup.exe to use your
proxy server?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:20 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
>
>
> Harold,
>
> still no luck.  we need another data point to isolate the problem
> .. somebody else needs to try to point setup.exe to that location...
>
> -rich
>
> Harold Hunt wrote:
> >
> > Richard,
> >
> > Hmm... you mention that you can see the directory with your
> browser... that
> > means that your browser has a connection open to my ftp
> server... and I'm
> > not sure how many connections my server allows per host.  Thus,
> you may want
> > to close your browser, wait a few minutes, then open setup.exe
> and try to
> > connect again (without opening your web browser to that
> address).  That may
> > help...
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:48 AM
> > > To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox
> > > setup.exepackages available for testing
> > >
> > >
> > > Harold,
> > >
> > > I tried pointing setup.exe to
> > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to connect
> > > and then comes back with "Unable to get setup.ini from
> > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/".  I'm a relative
> > > newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see that
> > > directory with my browser).
> > >
> > > -rich
> > >
> > > PS:  Love the cygwin & cygwin/xfree products!
> > >
> > >
> > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Point setup.exe at:
> > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> > > >
> > > > There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86 packages plus
> > > > WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
> > > >
> > > > I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do an
> > > install on
> > > > there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
> > > >
> > > > Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the
> > > generic Cygwin
> > > > build script), so each of these new packages has a source file
> > > as well (if
> > > > you wish to see what was changed to make them compile on Cygwin).
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy,
> > > >
> > > > Harold
> > >
>


From salexander@taz.qinetiq.com  Mon Apr 29 08:45:00 2002
From: salexander@taz.qinetiq.com (Scott Alexander)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:45:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
References: 
Message-ID: <007501c1ef94$bf68a8b0$2153b80a@gooshy>

Just muddled arround with my proxy settings and have connected and done the
update.

Scott.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: "Richard Drake" ; 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing


> Rich,
>
> I was able to connect to huntharo-4 and grab setup.ini with setup.exe from
> my other machine just fine.
>
> Do you have a firewall or proxy server?  Have you told setup.exe to use
your
> proxy server?
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:20 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> >
> >
> > Harold,
> >
> > still no luck.  we need another data point to isolate the problem
> > .. somebody else needs to try to point setup.exe to that location...
> >
> > -rich
> >
> > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > >
> > > Richard,
> > >
> > > Hmm... you mention that you can see the directory with your
> > browser... that
> > > means that your browser has a connection open to my ftp
> > server... and I'm
> > > not sure how many connections my server allows per host.  Thus,
> > you may want
> > > to close your browser, wait a few minutes, then open setup.exe
> > and try to
> > > connect again (without opening your web browser to that
> > address).  That may
> > > help...
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:48 AM
> > > > To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox
> > > > setup.exepackages available for testing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Harold,
> > > >
> > > > I tried pointing setup.exe to
> > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to connect
> > > > and then comes back with "Unable to get setup.ini from
> > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/".  I'm a relative
> > > > newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see that
> > > > directory with my browser).
> > > >
> > > > -rich
> > > >
> > > > PS:  Love the cygwin & cygwin/xfree products!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Point setup.exe at:
> > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86 packages plus
> > > > > WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do an
> > > > install on
> > > > > there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the
> > > > generic Cygwin
> > > > > build script), so each of these new packages has a source file
> > > > as well (if
> > > > > you wish to see what was changed to make them compile on Cygwin).
> > > > >
> > > > > Enjoy,
> > > > >
> > > > > Harold
> > > >
> >
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 08:46:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:46:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
In-Reply-To: <007501c1ef94$bf68a8b0$2153b80a@gooshy>
Message-ID: 

Scott,

So, does WindowMaker work?  Does Openbox work?  I need to know before I
release the packages into the wild...

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Scott Alexander
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:44 AM
> To: Harold Hunt; Richard Drake; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
>
>
> Just muddled arround with my proxy settings and have connected
> and done the
> update.
>
> Scott.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harold Hunt" 
> To: "Richard Drake" ; 
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:31 PM
> Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
>
>
> > Rich,
> >
> > I was able to connect to huntharo-4 and grab setup.ini with
> setup.exe from
> > my other machine just fine.
> >
> > Do you have a firewall or proxy server?  Have you told setup.exe to use
> your
> > proxy server?
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:20 AM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> > >
> > >
> > > Harold,
> > >
> > > still no luck.  we need another data point to isolate the problem
> > > .. somebody else needs to try to point setup.exe to that location...
> > >
> > > -rich
> > >
> > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Richard,
> > > >
> > > > Hmm... you mention that you can see the directory with your
> > > browser... that
> > > > means that your browser has a connection open to my ftp
> > > server... and I'm
> > > > not sure how many connections my server allows per host.  Thus,
> > > you may want
> > > > to close your browser, wait a few minutes, then open setup.exe
> > > and try to
> > > > connect again (without opening your web browser to that
> > > address).  That may
> > > > help...
> > > >
> > > > Harold
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:48 AM
> > > > > To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox
> > > > > setup.exepackages available for testing
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Harold,
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried pointing setup.exe to
> > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to connect
> > > > > and then comes back with "Unable to get setup.ini from
> > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/".  I'm a relative
> > > > > newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see that
> > > > > directory with my browser).
> > > > >
> > > > > -rich
> > > > >
> > > > > PS:  Love the cygwin & cygwin/xfree products!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Point setup.exe at:
> > > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86
> packages plus
> > > > > > WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do an
> > > > > install on
> > > > > > there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the
> > > > > generic Cygwin
> > > > > > build script), so each of these new packages has a source file
> > > > > as well (if
> > > > > > you wish to see what was changed to make them compile
> on Cygwin).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Enjoy,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harold
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>


From salexander@taz.qinetiq.com  Mon Apr 29 08:52:00 2002
From: salexander@taz.qinetiq.com (Scott Alexander)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:52:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
References:  <007501c1ef94$bf68a8b0$2153b80a@gooshy>
Message-ID: <007b01c1ef95$39b826e0$2153b80a@gooshy>

Well I have managed to connect its still trying to get the first file.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Alexander" 
To: "Harold Hunt" ; "Richard Drake" ;

Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing


> Just muddled arround with my proxy settings and have connected and done
the
> update.
>
> Scott.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harold Hunt" 
> To: "Richard Drake" ; 
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:31 PM
> Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
>
>
> > Rich,
> >
> > I was able to connect to huntharo-4 and grab setup.ini with setup.exe
from
> > my other machine just fine.
> >
> > Do you have a firewall or proxy server?  Have you told setup.exe to use
> your
> > proxy server?
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:20 AM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> > >
> > >
> > > Harold,
> > >
> > > still no luck.  we need another data point to isolate the problem
> > > .. somebody else needs to try to point setup.exe to that location...
> > >
> > > -rich
> > >
> > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Richard,
> > > >
> > > > Hmm... you mention that you can see the directory with your
> > > browser... that
> > > > means that your browser has a connection open to my ftp
> > > server... and I'm
> > > > not sure how many connections my server allows per host.  Thus,
> > > you may want
> > > > to close your browser, wait a few minutes, then open setup.exe
> > > and try to
> > > > connect again (without opening your web browser to that
> > > address).  That may
> > > > help...
> > > >
> > > > Harold
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:48 AM
> > > > > To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox
> > > > > setup.exepackages available for testing
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Harold,
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried pointing setup.exe to
> > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to connect
> > > > > and then comes back with "Unable to get setup.ini from
> > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/".  I'm a relative
> > > > > newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see that
> > > > > directory with my browser).
> > > > >
> > > > > -rich
> > > > >
> > > > > PS:  Love the cygwin & cygwin/xfree products!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Point setup.exe at:
> > > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86 packages
plus
> > > > > > WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do an
> > > > > install on
> > > > > > there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the
> > > > > generic Cygwin
> > > > > > build script), so each of these new packages has a source file
> > > > > as well (if
> > > > > > you wish to see what was changed to make them compile on
Cygwin).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Enjoy,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harold
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>


From salexander@taz.qinetiq.com  Mon Apr 29 09:09:00 2002
From: salexander@taz.qinetiq.com (Scott Alexander)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:09:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
References: 
Message-ID: <008b01c1ef96$15b04150$2153b80a@gooshy>

Harold,

I just got a message saying install incomplete try again?  Im not getting
any of the files, it can connect ok though and i see the packages available
but dont actually get the transfer started.  Could this be a read permission
on the directory or files?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:45 PM
Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing


> Scott,
>
> So, does WindowMaker work?  Does Openbox work?  I need to know before I
> release the packages into the wild...
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Scott Alexander
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:44 AM
> > To: Harold Hunt; Richard Drake; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> >
> >
> > Just muddled arround with my proxy settings and have connected
> > and done the
> > update.
> >
> > Scott.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Harold Hunt" 
> > To: "Richard Drake" ; 
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:31 PM
> > Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> >
> >
> > > Rich,
> > >
> > > I was able to connect to huntharo-4 and grab setup.ini with
> > setup.exe from
> > > my other machine just fine.
> > >
> > > Do you have a firewall or proxy server?  Have you told setup.exe to
use
> > your
> > > proxy server?
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:20 AM
> > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > > > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Harold,
> > > >
> > > > still no luck.  we need another data point to isolate the problem
> > > > .. somebody else needs to try to point setup.exe to that location...
> > > >
> > > > -rich
> > > >
> > > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard,
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmm... you mention that you can see the directory with your
> > > > browser... that
> > > > > means that your browser has a connection open to my ftp
> > > > server... and I'm
> > > > > not sure how many connections my server allows per host.  Thus,
> > > > you may want
> > > > > to close your browser, wait a few minutes, then open setup.exe
> > > > and try to
> > > > > connect again (without opening your web browser to that
> > > > address).  That may
> > > > > help...
> > > > >
> > > > > Harold
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:48 AM
> > > > > > To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
Openbox
> > > > > > setup.exepackages available for testing
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harold,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I tried pointing setup.exe to
> > > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to
connect
> > > > > > and then comes back with "Unable to get setup.ini from
> > > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/".  I'm a relative
> > > > > > newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see
that
> > > > > > directory with my browser).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -rich
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PS:  Love the cygwin & cygwin/xfree products!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Point setup.exe at:
> > > > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86
> > packages plus
> > > > > > > WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do
an
> > > > > > install on
> > > > > > > there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the
> > > > > > generic Cygwin
> > > > > > > build script), so each of these new packages has a source file
> > > > > > as well (if
> > > > > > > you wish to see what was changed to make them compile
> > on Cygwin).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Enjoy,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Harold
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


From goldin+@pitt.edu  Mon Apr 29 09:11:00 2002
From: goldin+@pitt.edu (Ilya Goldin)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:11:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox setup.exe packages available for testing
References: 
Message-ID: 

"Harold Hunt"  wrote in message
news:NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCGEEMCNAA.huntharo@msu.edu...
> Point setup.exe at:
> ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/


I'm now running Openbox. It looks great!

I had problems downloading from your site, Harold. You have newer XFree
packages (4.2.0-2 vs 4.2.0-1), but once I deselected those and downloaded
only Openbox, the download went fine.

I manually edited startxwin.bat to run openbox instead of twm (this should
probably be documented somewhere).

I don't know if it makes sense for setup to make it too easy to download a
whole bunch of different window managers (you don't really need more than 1,
right?). Perhaps there could be a base window manager much like there's a
base shell. But this is starting to look like a ridiculous can of worms.

--
-- Ilya Goldin   --
   Intelligent Systems Program
   Learning Research & Development Center
   University of Pittsburgh
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From salexander@taz.qinetiq.com  Mon Apr 29 09:17:00 2002
From: salexander@taz.qinetiq.com (Scott Alexander)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:17:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
References: 
Message-ID: <009c01c1ef98$b6ec4710$2153b80a@gooshy>

Hi Harold,

Im not sure if you just changed the setup.ini, but setup just reported that
it was an older version that I was using and there were a few other packages
like swig.  These downloaded ok but the XFree stuff did not eg:

XFree86-fnts-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2
XFree86-lib-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:45 PM
Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing


> Scott,
>
> So, does WindowMaker work?  Does Openbox work?  I need to know before I
> release the packages into the wild...
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Scott Alexander
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:44 AM
> > To: Harold Hunt; Richard Drake; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> >
> >
> > Just muddled arround with my proxy settings and have connected
> > and done the
> > update.
> >
> > Scott.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Harold Hunt" 
> > To: "Richard Drake" ; 
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:31 PM
> > Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> >
> >
> > > Rich,
> > >
> > > I was able to connect to huntharo-4 and grab setup.ini with
> > setup.exe from
> > > my other machine just fine.
> > >
> > > Do you have a firewall or proxy server?  Have you told setup.exe to
use
> > your
> > > proxy server?
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:20 AM
> > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > > > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Harold,
> > > >
> > > > still no luck.  we need another data point to isolate the problem
> > > > .. somebody else needs to try to point setup.exe to that location...
> > > >
> > > > -rich
> > > >
> > > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard,
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmm... you mention that you can see the directory with your
> > > > browser... that
> > > > > means that your browser has a connection open to my ftp
> > > > server... and I'm
> > > > > not sure how many connections my server allows per host.  Thus,
> > > > you may want
> > > > > to close your browser, wait a few minutes, then open setup.exe
> > > > and try to
> > > > > connect again (without opening your web browser to that
> > > > address).  That may
> > > > > help...
> > > > >
> > > > > Harold
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:48 AM
> > > > > > To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
Openbox
> > > > > > setup.exepackages available for testing
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harold,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I tried pointing setup.exe to
> > > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to
connect
> > > > > > and then comes back with "Unable to get setup.ini from
> > > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/".  I'm a relative
> > > > > > newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see
that
> > > > > > directory with my browser).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -rich
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PS:  Love the cygwin & cygwin/xfree products!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Point setup.exe at:
> > > > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86
> > packages plus
> > > > > > > WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do
an
> > > > > > install on
> > > > > > > there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the
> > > > > > generic Cygwin
> > > > > > > build script), so each of these new packages has a source file
> > > > > > as well (if
> > > > > > > you wish to see what was changed to make them compile
> > on Cygwin).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Enjoy,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Harold
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


From eugenius@dingoblue.net.au  Mon Apr 29 09:31:00 2002
From: eugenius@dingoblue.net.au (Eugene Rosenzweig)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:31:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox setup.exe packages available for testing
References: 
Message-ID: <007201c1ef99$619a9540$0300a8c0@bluebox>

Had no problems connecting or getting setup.ini. I have an older version of
setup.exe though, if that matters at all.

One funny side-effect: I only wanted windowmaker so I tried selecting skip
for all X packages. Clicking down the column would work for the first couple
but then all the 'Skip' status' would revert back to version numbers. I
fiddled trying to select 'Skip' on packages in different order and after a
while succedded in disabling all but windowmaker. Maybe it is something to
do with the older version of the setup.exe?

Eugene.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: "cygx" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:31 AM
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox setup.exe
packages available for testing


> Point setup.exe at:
> ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
>
> There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86 packages plus
> WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
>
> I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do an install on
> there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
>
> Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the generic Cygwin
> build script), so each of these new packages has a source file as well (if
> you wish to see what was changed to make them compile on Cygwin).
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Harold
>


From eugenius@dingoblue.net.au  Mon Apr 29 09:46:00 2002
From: eugenius@dingoblue.net.au (Eugene Rosenzweig)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:46:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
References: 
Message-ID: <009401c1ef9b$5c28c670$0300a8c0@bluebox>

WindowMaker is working OK. Had a glitch in the beginning. I could not see
wmaker in /usr/local where all other window managers I have compiled (or
tried to compile) live (openbox, blackbox, icewm). I tried to run it from
the command line and got a dialog from wmaker saying it could not find
libX11.dll. I put it into my .xinitrc file and ran startx. I got same error
then a series of errors same or similar dialogues from wdwrite.exe but then,
after all that, I got the windowmaker desktop and never been able to
reproduce the error, it starts every time now. Anyone else had a similar
problem?

Also, I am wondering. All other window managers seem to default to
/usr/local and so does the Makefile to the WindowMaker. Is there a
particular reason it installs into /bin? (I have tried to compile it but
failed with unresolved reference to Xsetlocale at linktime. This might be
simple but I am without a clue in this area so far.)

Eugene.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 1:45 AM
Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing


> Scott,
>
> So, does WindowMaker work?  Does Openbox work?  I need to know before I
> release the packages into the wild...
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Scott Alexander
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:44 AM
> > To: Harold Hunt; Richard Drake; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> >
> >
> > Just muddled arround with my proxy settings and have connected
> > and done the
> > update.
> >
> > Scott.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Harold Hunt" 
> > To: "Richard Drake" ; 
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:31 PM
> > Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> >
> >
> > > Rich,
> > >
> > > I was able to connect to huntharo-4 and grab setup.ini with
> > setup.exe from
> > > my other machine just fine.
> > >
> > > Do you have a firewall or proxy server?  Have you told setup.exe to
use
> > your
> > > proxy server?
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:20 AM
> > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > > > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Harold,
> > > >
> > > > still no luck.  we need another data point to isolate the problem
> > > > .. somebody else needs to try to point setup.exe to that location...
> > > >
> > > > -rich
> > > >
> > > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard,
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmm... you mention that you can see the directory with your
> > > > browser... that
> > > > > means that your browser has a connection open to my ftp
> > > > server... and I'm
> > > > > not sure how many connections my server allows per host.  Thus,
> > > > you may want
> > > > > to close your browser, wait a few minutes, then open setup.exe
> > > > and try to
> > > > > connect again (without opening your web browser to that
> > > > address).  That may
> > > > > help...
> > > > >
> > > > > Harold
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:48 AM
> > > > > > To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
Openbox
> > > > > > setup.exepackages available for testing
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harold,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I tried pointing setup.exe to
> > > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to
connect
> > > > > > and then comes back with "Unable to get setup.ini from
> > > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/".  I'm a relative
> > > > > > newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see
that
> > > > > > directory with my browser).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -rich
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PS:  Love the cygwin & cygwin/xfree products!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Point setup.exe at:
> > > > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86
> > packages plus
> > > > > > > WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do
an
> > > > > > install on
> > > > > > > there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the
> > > > > > generic Cygwin
> > > > > > > build script), so each of these new packages has a source file
> > > > > > as well (if
> > > > > > > you wish to see what was changed to make them compile
> > on Cygwin).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Enjoy,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Harold
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 11:54:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:54:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
In-Reply-To: <009401c1ef9b$5c28c670$0300a8c0@bluebox>
Message-ID: 

Eugene,

Thanks for the confirmation.

> WindowMaker is working OK. Had a glitch in the beginning. I could not see
> wmaker in /usr/local where all other window managers I have compiled (or
> tried to compile) live (openbox, blackbox, icewm). I tried to run it from
> the command line and got a dialog from wmaker saying it could not find
> libX11.dll. I put it into my .xinitrc file and ran startx. I got
> same error
> then a series of errors same or similar dialogues from
> wdwrite.exe but then,
> after all that, I got the windowmaker desktop and never been able to
> reproduce the error, it starts every time now. Anyone else had a similar
> problem?

WindowMaker is not installed in /usr/local (more on this below).

You had a path problem from the command line because /usr/bin
(c:/cygwin/bin) is not in your DOS path... so it is expected that wmaker
could not be found.

The "errors" that you saw from the first startup of wmaker were, if you
actually read them, a bunch of messages saying that a configuration was
being created for you.  A bunch of this messages have "WARNING" in them,
such as "Warning: creating user profile..."  so it looks like something has
gone wrong at first glance, but actually wmaker is doing precisely what you
want.

Once the configuration profile is created it doesn't have to be created
again, thus no more messages.

> Also, I am wondering. All other window managers seem to default to
> /usr/local and so does the Makefile to the WindowMaker. Is there a
> particular reason it installs into /bin?

/usr/local/* is not in the path of 99% of Cygwin users (I'm guessing at this
one), and all Cygwin packages are supposed to be installed to /usr/*
(http://cygwin.com/setup.html).  /usr/local is really for user compiled
stuff, while /usr is for system stuff.  WindowMaker et al are now system
stuff, since they are installed via setup.exe, thus they go in /usr.

> (I have tried to compile it but
> failed with unresolved reference to Xsetlocale at linktime. This might be
> simple but I am without a clue in this area so far.)

The contents of my patch are below.  My fix was very simple... I wouldn't
submit this one to WindowMaker.org.

Harold


diff -urN -x .build -x .inst -x .sinst
WindowMaker-0.80.0-orig/WINGs/Examples/Makefile.am
WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs/Examples/Makefile.am
--- WindowMaker-0.80.0-orig/WINGs/Examples/Makefile.am	Thu Oct 11 05:59:54
2001
+++ WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs/Examples/Makefile.am	Mon Apr 29 09:43:06 2002
@@ -17,12 +17,12 @@
 connect_DEPENDENCIES = $(top_builddir)/WINGs/libWUtil.a

 connect_LDADD = $(top_builddir)/WINGs/libWUtil.a @LIBRARY_SEARCH_PATH@ \
-	@NETLIBS@ @INTLIBS@
+	@NETLIBS@ @INTLIBS@ @XLIBS@

 server_DEPENDENCIES = $(top_builddir)/WINGs/libWUtil.a

 server_LDADD = $(top_builddir)/WINGs/libWUtil.a @LIBRARY_SEARCH_PATH@ \
-	@NETLIBS@ @INTLIBS@
+	@NETLIBS@ @INTLIBS@ @XLIBS@


 INCLUDES = -I$(top_srcdir)/WINGs -I$(top_srcdir)/wrlib -I$(top_srcdir)/src
\
diff -urN -x .build -x .inst -x .sinst
WindowMaker-0.80.0-orig/WindowMaker/Icons/Makefile.am
WindowMaker-0.80.0/WindowMaker/Icons/Makefile.am
--- WindowMaker-0.80.0-orig/WindowMaker/Icons/Makefile.am	Sat Dec 30
20:33:10 2000
+++ WindowMaker-0.80.0/WindowMaker/Icons/Makefile.am	Mon Apr 29 10:04:13
2002
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@

 defsdata_DATA = \
 	BitchX.tiff\
-	DefaultAppIcon.tiff\
+	defaultAppIcon.tiff\
 	Ftp.png\
 	GNUstep.tiff\
 	GNUstep3D.tiff\
diff -urN -x .build -x .inst -x .sinst
WindowMaker-0.80.0-orig/util/Makefile.am WindowMaker-0.80.0/util/Makefile.am
--- WindowMaker-0.80.0-orig/util/Makefile.am	Thu Oct 11 05:59:54 2001
+++ WindowMaker-0.80.0/util/Makefile.am	Mon Apr 29 09:51:58 2002
@@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
 # X_EXTRA_LIBS is for libproplist in systems that need -lsocket
 # remove after we require lPL 0.10.2 which automatically resolves its
 # library dependancies using the libPropList.la file
-liblist= @LIBRARY_SEARCH_PATH@ @X_EXTRA_LIBS@ @INTLIBS@
+liblist= @LIBRARY_SEARCH_PATH@ @XLIBS@ @INTLIBS@

 wdwrite_LDADD = $(top_builddir)/WINGs/libWUtil.a $(liblist)


From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Mon Apr 29 11:56:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:56:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
Message-ID: 

When I try to start wmaker I get the eerror CYGJPEG6B.DLL not found. I
checked that this file indeed is not in my \cygwin directory. Which
package is it supposed to come in?

Openbox works great.

Lars.

--
Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 12:21:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:21:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Lars,

You've gotta start wmaker via some script that sets your paths correctly.

The startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh scripts do this.

You can't just run wmaker from any old command line.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:43 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
> 
> 
> When I try to start wmaker I get the eerror CYGJPEG6B.DLL not found. I
> checked that this file indeed is not in my \cygwin directory. Which
> package is it supposed to come in?
> 
> Openbox works great.
> 
> Lars.
> 
> --
> Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
> Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> 


From rrdrake@sandia.gov  Mon Apr 29 12:37:00 2002
From: rrdrake@sandia.gov (Richard Drake)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:37:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
References: 
Message-ID: <3CCD9D2E.1A3D40E6@sandia.gov>

Lars,

same thing here .. i just ran setup.exe and got the jpeg package in the list. after that, it failed to find a tiff dll, so i ran setup.exe again and got the tiff package.  wmaker worked for me after that.

-rich

Lars Jensen wrote:
> 
> When I try to start wmaker I get the eerror CYGJPEG6B.DLL not found. I
> checked that this file indeed is not in my \cygwin directory. Which
> package is it supposed to come in?
> 
> Openbox works great.
> 
> Lars.
> 
> --
> Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592


From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Mon Apr 29 12:43:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:43:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Harold,

Did you read more than the subject title of my posting?  ;-)

The message states that cygjpeg6b.dll is not in my \cygwin directory tree
at all. Further I am using startxwin.bat to start wmaker!

Where does the cygjpeg.dll come from?

Lars.


On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:

> Lars,
> 
> You've gotta start wmaker via some script that sets your paths correctly.
> 
> The startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh scripts do this.
> 
> You can't just run wmaker from any old command line.
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:43 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
> > 
> > 
> > When I try to start wmaker I get the eerror CYGJPEG6B.DLL not found. I
> > checked that this file indeed is not in my \cygwin directory. Which
> > package is it supposed to come in?
> > 
> > Openbox works great.
> > 
> > Lars.
> > 
> > --
> > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
> > Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> > 
> 

--
Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592


From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr 29 12:54:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:54:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
Message-ID: <20020429194303.GA27882@redhat.com>

On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 12:26:10PM -0700, Lars Jensen wrote:
>Harold,
>
>Did you read more than the subject title of my posting?  ;-)
>
>The message states that cygjpeg6b.dll is not in my \cygwin directory tree
>at all. Further I am using startxwin.bat to start wmaker!
>
>Where does the cygjpeg.dll come from?

http://cygwin.com/packages/

will give you a clue.

cgf


From david.w.dawson@lmco.com  Mon Apr 29 12:59:00 2002
From: david.w.dawson@lmco.com (Dawson, David W)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:59:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
Message-ID: <0C73AA5F720CD311AC2A0008C7DBA9B403BDF718@emss09m13.ems.lmco.com>

Goodness!!

> cygjpeg6b.dll is part of the jpeg package of Cygwin.
WindowMaker depends upon this package.
As noted in another post, WindowMaker also depends on the tiff package.

Anytime you suspect you are missing a .dll go to http://cygwin.com/packages/
and search for the missing item.
This page will tell you which package contains the file.

Apparently jpeg and tiff are not part of the "default" cygwin installation.

Many of us have a more complete installation of cygwin, and it is often
difficult to know which packages you should automatically have, if you have
correctly installed cygwin and are correctly using the
(offending/complaining) tool.

Now that it has become evident that WindowMaker also needs these
(non-default) packages, it could be so-noted in Howard's setup.ini file.
(IIF he wants to.)

	-D.
---------------------
David Dawson
david.w.dawson@lmco.com
703-367-3885


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Lars Jensen [SMTP:jensen@physics.unr.edu]
> Sent:	Monday, April 29, 2002 3:26 PM
> To:	Harold Hunt
> Cc:	cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject:	RE: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
> 
> Harold,
> 
> Did you read more than the subject title of my posting?  ;-)
> 
> The message states that cygjpeg6b.dll is not in my \cygwin directory tree
> at all. Further I am using startxwin.bat to start wmaker!
> 
> Where does the cygjpeg.dll come from?
> 
> Lars.
> 
> 
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> > Lars,
> > 
> > You've gotta start wmaker via some script that sets your paths
> correctly.
> > 
> > The startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh scripts do this.
> > 
> > You can't just run wmaker from any old command line.
> > 
> > Harold
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:43 PM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
> > > 
> > > 
> > > When I try to start wmaker I get the eerror CYGJPEG6B.DLL not found. I
> > > checked that this file indeed is not in my \cygwin directory. Which
> > > package is it supposed to come in?
> > > 
> > > Openbox works great.
> > > 
> > > Lars.
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
> > > Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> > > 
> > 
> 
> --
> Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
> Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 13:10:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 13:10:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Lars,

Yeah, I read it.  But I read it as, "I checked and cygjpeg6b.dll IS in my
/cygwin directory."

No need to get pissy.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 3:26 PM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
>
>
> Harold,
>
> Did you read more than the subject title of my posting?  ;-)
>
> The message states that cygjpeg6b.dll is not in my \cygwin directory tree
> at all. Further I am using startxwin.bat to start wmaker!
>
> Where does the cygjpeg.dll come from?
>
> Lars.
>
>
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
>
> > Lars,
> >
> > You've gotta start wmaker via some script that sets your paths
> correctly.
> >
> > The startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh scripts do this.
> >
> > You can't just run wmaker from any old command line.
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:43 PM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
> > >
> > >
> > > When I try to start wmaker I get the eerror CYGJPEG6B.DLL not found. I
> > > checked that this file indeed is not in my \cygwin directory. Which
> > > package is it supposed to come in?
> > >
> > > Openbox works great.
> > >
> > > Lars.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> > > Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> > >
> >
>
> --
> Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
>


From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Mon Apr 29 13:12:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 13:12:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Harold,

I guess a crucial "not" was missing. -Anyhow, it was only meant as a
joke. I hope you didn't take any offense.

Anyway, where does cygjpeg6b.dll come from?

Lars.

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:

> Lars,
> 
> Yeah, I read it.  But I read it as, "I checked and cygjpeg6b.dll IS in my
> /cygwin directory."
> 
> No need to get pissy.
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 3:26 PM
> > To: Harold Hunt
> > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: RE: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
> >
> >
> > Harold,
> >
> > Did you read more than the subject title of my posting?  ;-)
> >
> > The message states that cygjpeg6b.dll is not in my \cygwin directory tree
> > at all. Further I am using startxwin.bat to start wmaker!
> >
> > Where does the cygjpeg.dll come from?
> >
> > Lars.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
> >
> > > Lars,
> > >
> > > You've gotta start wmaker via some script that sets your paths
> > correctly.
> > >
> > > The startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh scripts do this.
> > >
> > > You can't just run wmaker from any old command line.
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:43 PM
> > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > When I try to start wmaker I get the eerror CYGJPEG6B.DLL not found. I
> > > > checked that this file indeed is not in my \cygwin directory. Which
> > > > package is it supposed to come in?
> > > >
> > > > Openbox works great.
> > > >
> > > > Lars.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> > > > Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > > > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> > Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> >
> 
> 

--
Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592


From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr 29 13:17:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 13:17:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
Message-ID: <20020429201255.GA835@redhat.com>

On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 12:59:52PM -0700, Lars Jensen wrote:
>I guess a crucial "not" was missing. -Anyhow, it was only meant as a
>joke. I hope you didn't take any offense.
>
>Anyway, where does cygjpeg6b.dll come from?

Wow.  This thread is getting painful now.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 14:08:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:08:00 -0000
Subject: Best place for WindowMaker, Openbox, etc.?
Message-ID: 

I've created Cygwin setup.exe packages for the X11 window managers
WindowMaker and Openbox.  I have tentatively put them in
release/XFree86/WindowMaker and release/XFree86/openbox... is that a good
idea?  Or, should I give each X package a toplevel directory in release/?

Harold



From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 14:08:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:08:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Lars,

Two people answered this in the last five emails or so:

http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-grep.cgi?grep=cygjpeg6b.dll

You have to install the jpeg package.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:00 PM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
> 
> 
> Harold,
> 
> I guess a crucial "not" was missing. -Anyhow, it was only meant as a
> joke. I hope you didn't take any offense.
> 
> Anyway, where does cygjpeg6b.dll come from?
> 
> Lars.
> 
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> > Lars,
> > 
> > Yeah, I read it.  But I read it as, "I checked and 
> cygjpeg6b.dll IS in my
> > /cygwin directory."
> > 
> > No need to get pissy.
> > 
> > Harold
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 3:26 PM
> > > To: Harold Hunt
> > > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: RE: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
> > >
> > >
> > > Harold,
> > >
> > > Did you read more than the subject title of my posting?  ;-)
> > >
> > > The message states that cygjpeg6b.dll is not in my \cygwin 
> directory tree
> > > at all. Further I am using startxwin.bat to start wmaker!
> > >
> > > Where does the cygjpeg.dll come from?
> > >
> > > Lars.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
> > >
> > > > Lars,
> > > >
> > > > You've gotta start wmaker via some script that sets your paths
> > > correctly.
> > > >
> > > > The startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh scripts do this.
> > > >
> > > > You can't just run wmaker from any old command line.
> > > >
> > > > Harold
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:43 PM
> > > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > > Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > When I try to start wmaker I get the eerror CYGJPEG6B.DLL 
> not found. I
> > > > > checked that this file indeed is not in my \cygwin 
> directory. Which
> > > > > package is it supposed to come in?
> > > > >
> > > > > Openbox works great.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lars.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 
> 89512-3999.
> > > > > Internet: , 
http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > > > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> > Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> >
> 
> 

--
Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Mon Apr 29 14:14:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:14:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
References: <0C73AA5F720CD311AC2A0008C7DBA9B403BDF718@emss09m13.ems.lmco.com>
Message-ID: <3CCDB6EE.7050101@ece.gatech.edu>

Dawson, David W wrote:

> Goodness!!
> 
> 
>>cygjpeg6b.dll is part of the jpeg package of Cygwin.
>>
> WindowMaker depends upon this package.
> As noted in another post, WindowMaker also depends on the tiff package.

> Now that it has become evident that WindowMaker also needs these
> (non-default) packages, it could be so-noted in Howard's setup.ini file.
> (IIF he wants to.)


Actually, this is a packaging error in windowmaker.  The setup.hint / 
setup.ini MUST list the required dependencies, for packages intended for 
distribution via the offiical mirror network.

requires:  ....  tiff jpeg

should appear in the setup.hint.  Then, when the website maintainer runs 
upset, setup.ini will specify the correct dependencies -- and when a 
users runs setup.exe and selects windowmaker, setep will automatically 
select the tiff and jpeg packages to satisfy those dependencies.

Cool, huh?

--Chuck


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 14:20:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:20:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
In-Reply-To: <3CCDB6EE.7050101@ece.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: 

Chuck,

Actually, I *just* made that change to setup.hint on my side... right before
you emailed :)  I added dependencies for jpeg and tiff to WindowMaker.

Now I just need to find out if there are any other dependencies that I am
forgetting.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Charles Wilson
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 5:11 PM
> To: Dawson, David W; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
>
>
> Dawson, David W wrote:
>
> > Goodness!!
> >
> >
> >>cygjpeg6b.dll is part of the jpeg package of Cygwin.
> >>
> > WindowMaker depends upon this package.
> > As noted in another post, WindowMaker also depends on the tiff package.
>
> > Now that it has become evident that WindowMaker also needs these
> > (non-default) packages, it could be so-noted in Howard's setup.ini file.
> > (IIF he wants to.)
>
>
> Actually, this is a packaging error in windowmaker.  The setup.hint /
> setup.ini MUST list the required dependencies, for packages intended for
> distribution via the offiical mirror network.
>
> requires:  ....  tiff jpeg
>
> should appear in the setup.hint.  Then, when the website maintainer runs
> upset, setup.ini will specify the correct dependencies -- and when a
> users runs setup.exe and selects windowmaker, setep will automatically
> select the tiff and jpeg packages to satisfy those dependencies.
>
> Cool, huh?
>
> --Chuck
>


From sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com  Mon Apr 29 14:20:00 2002
From: sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com (Sam Edge)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:20:00 -0000
Subject: Best place for WindowMaker, Openbox, etc.?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

Harold Hunt wrote in 
in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Mon, 29 Apr 2002 17:08:12 -0400:

> I've created Cygwin setup.exe packages for the X11 window managers
> WindowMaker and Openbox.  I have tentatively put them in
> release/XFree86/WindowMaker and release/XFree86/openbox... is that a good
> idea?  Or, should I give each X package a toplevel directory in release/?

Maybe "Shells" along with rxvt and the command interpreters. Certainly
not "XFree86" because they're not part of XFree86 itself - they just
run under it.

-- 
Sam Edge


From lhall@rfk.com  Mon Apr 29 14:36:00 2002
From: lhall@rfk.com (Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc))
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:36:00 -0000
Subject: Best place for WindowMaker, Openbox, etc.?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20020429171709.02d0e6f8@pop.ma.ultranet.com>

At 05:08 PM 4/29/2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
>I've created Cygwin setup.exe packages for the X11 window managers
>WindowMaker and Openbox.  I have tentatively put them in
>release/XFree86/WindowMaker and release/XFree86/openbox... is that a good
>idea?  Or, should I give each X package a toplevel directory in release/?


The latter please.

Thanks,



Larry Hall                              lhall@rfk.com
RFK Partners, Inc.                      http://www.rfk.com
838 Washington Street                   (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office
Holliston, MA 01746                     (508) 893-9889 - FAX


From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr 29 14:39:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:39:00 -0000
Subject: Clarifying xfree86 package rules
Message-ID: <20020429213652.GA2331@redhat.com>

This is probably pretty obvious but I want to make it clear that Harold
and Suhaib (if he's interested) have automony in the release/Xfree86
hierarchy.  That means that they can put packages there, remove
packages, or whatever, without asking for permission in cygwin-apps.

So, this is an exemption to the usual post it to cygwin-apps and ask for
permission policy.

I would appreciate notification of when things go in but, again, that's
obvious, too.  I assume that will happen in the cygwin-xfree mailing list,
as always.

FYI,
cgf


From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr 29 23:10:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 23:10:00 -0000
Subject: Best place for WindowMaker, Openbox, etc.?
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
Message-ID: <20020429213920.GA2051@redhat.com>

On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 10:20:00PM +0100, Sam Edge wrote:
>Harold Hunt wrote in 
>in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Mon, 29 Apr 2002 17:08:12 -0400:
>>I've created Cygwin setup.exe packages for the X11 window managers
>>WindowMaker and Openbox.  I have tentatively put them in
>>release/XFree86/WindowMaker and release/XFree86/openbox...  is that a
>>good idea?  Or, should I give each X package a toplevel directory in
>>release/?
>
>Maybe "Shells" along with rxvt and the command interpreters.  Certainly
>not "XFree86" because they're not part of XFree86 itself - they just
>run under it.

If they run under it, they belong in the XFree86 hierarchy.  That's
why I created it.

Please put the packages in XFree86/WindowMaker and XFree86/openbox.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 23:26:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 23:26:00 -0000
Subject: upset stumper [cgf, Robert Collins, please comment]
Message-ID: 

I'm packaging up Gnome, but upset chokes on finding the version of gtk+.  It
takes this setup.hint:

sdesc: "gtk+"
category: XFree86
requires: XFree86-base glib
ldesc: "GTK+ is a multi-platform toolkit for creating graphical user
interfaces. Offering a complete set of widgets, GTK+ is suitable for
projects ranging from small one-off projects to complete application
suites.

GTK+ is free software and part of the GNU Project. However, the
licensing terms for GTK+, the GNU LGPL, allow it to be used by all
developers, including those developing proprietary software, without
any license fees or royalties."


And turns it into this setup.ini entry:

@ gtk+
sdesc: "Gtk+"
ldesc: "GTK+ is a multi-platform toolkit for creating graphical user
interfaces. Offering a complete set of widgets, GTK+ is suitable for
projects ranging from small one-off projects to complete application
suites.

GTK+ is free software and part of the GNU Project. However, the
licensing terms for GTK+, the GNU LGPL, allow it to be used by all
developers, including those developing proprietary software, without
any license fees or royalties."
category: XFree86
requires: XFree86-base glib
version: -1.2.10-1
install: release/XFree86/gtk+/gtk+-1.2.10-1.tar.bz2 2566794
source: release/XFree86/gtk+/gtk+-1.2.10-1-src.tar.bz2 2884874


Notice that the version is thought to be "-1.2.10-1", rather than
"1.2.10-1".

Robert, can setup.exe handle a '+' in the package name?

Harold



From gis90545@cis.nctu.edu.tw  Mon Apr 29 23:31:00 2002
From: gis90545@cis.nctu.edu.tw (daylong)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 23:31:00 -0000
Subject: bad setup.exe
Message-ID: 

can you reprogram the cygwin installer (setup.exe)!!!
I can see a some buttons or some labels
There are a lot of bugs , 
for example , when I add a wrong url to add site,
I can't fix it and can't find it in any place !!!
plz tell me how to fix it 

From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 23:32:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 23:32:00 -0000
Subject: bad setup.exe
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

No.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com 
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of daylong
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:26 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: bad setup.exe
> 
> 
> can you reprogram the cygwin installer (setup.exe)!!!
> I can see a some buttons or some labels
> There are a lot of bugs , 
> for example , when I add a wrong url to add site,
> I can't fix it and can't find it in any place !!!
> plz tell me how to fix it 


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 23:45:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 23:45:00 -0000
Subject: mkdll.sh
Message-ID: 

Steve,

I'm working on creating Cygwin setup.exe packages for Gnome... I know, it's
buggy but I'd like to get a start.  One problem I'm having with your patches
is that they use mkdll.sh but they don't cause configure to copy the file to
a build directory.

For example:

tar xzf glib-1.2.10.tar.gz
cd glib-1.2.10
patch -p1 < ../glib-1.2.10-cygwin.patch
mkdir build
cd build
../configure
[yada yada yada]
make
[yada yada yada]
mkdir .libs
ar cru .libs/libglib.a  garray.o gcache.o gcompletion.o gdataset.o gdate.o
gerro
r.o ghash.o ghook.o giochannel.o giounix.o glist.o gmain.o gmem.o
gmessages.o gm
utex.o gnode.o gprimes.o grel.o gscanner.o gslist.o gstrfuncs.o gstring.o
gtimer
.o gtree.o gutils.o
ranlib .libs/libglib.a
creating libglib.la
(cd .libs && rm -f libglib.la && ln -s ../libglib.la libglib.la)
cd .libs && PREFIX=/usr sh ../mkdll.sh libglib.la
../mkdll.sh: Can't open ../mkdll.sh: No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [libglib.la] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
10/.build'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
10/.build'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2


Eventually I always reach a point where mkdll.sh can't be found because
configure didn't copy it to the out-of-the-tree build directory.

Got any ideas on how to fix this?

Harold


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Mon Apr 29 23:46:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 23:46:00 -0000
Subject: mkdll.sh
References: 
Message-ID: <3CCE3E34.3040401@ece.gatech.edu>

You could probably do the following:

get rid of mkdll.sh
relibtoolize/autoconf using the "-devel" tools (e.g. make sure that 
configure.in has "AC_PREREQ(2.52)")

./configure; make;

It oughta work. 

--chuck


Harold Hunt wrote:

> Steve,
> 
> I'm working on creating Cygwin setup.exe packages for Gnome... I know, it's
> buggy but I'd like to get a start.  One problem I'm having with your patches
> is that they use mkdll.sh but they don't cause configure to copy the file to
> a build directory.
> 
> For example:
> 
> tar xzf glib-1.2.10.tar.gz
> cd glib-1.2.10
> patch -p1 < ../glib-1.2.10-cygwin.patch
> mkdir build
> cd build
> ../configure
> [yada yada yada]
> make
> [yada yada yada]
> mkdir .libs
> ar cru .libs/libglib.a  garray.o gcache.o gcompletion.o gdataset.o gdate.o
> gerro
> r.o ghash.o ghook.o giochannel.o giounix.o glist.o gmain.o gmem.o
> gmessages.o gm
> utex.o gnode.o gprimes.o grel.o gscanner.o gslist.o gstrfuncs.o gstring.o
> gtimer
> .o gtree.o gutils.o
> ranlib .libs/libglib.a
> creating libglib.la
> (cd .libs && rm -f libglib.la && ln -s ../libglib.la libglib.la)
> cd .libs && PREFIX=/usr sh ../mkdll.sh libglib.la
> ../mkdll.sh: Can't open ../mkdll.sh: No such file or directory
> make[2]: *** [libglib.la] Error 2
> make[2]: Leaving directory
> `/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
> 10/.build'
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory
> `/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
> 10/.build'
> make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
> 
> 
> Eventually I always reach a point where mkdll.sh can't be found because
> configure didn't copy it to the out-of-the-tree build directory.
> 
> Got any ideas on how to fix this?
> 
> Harold
> 
> 
> 



From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 30 01:12:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 01:12:00 -0000
Subject: By the way...
Message-ID: 

... I added a link to your Cygwin Gnome page to Cygwin/XFree86's Ported
Software page:
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ported-software.html

I'm very impressed with your work to compile Gnome with DLLs.  Keep it up!

Harold


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Tue Apr 30 02:08:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 02:08:00 -0000
Subject: mkdll.sh
References: 
Message-ID: <3CCE3E34.3040401@ece.gatech.edu>

You could probably do the following:

get rid of mkdll.sh
relibtoolize/autoconf using the "-devel" tools (e.g. make sure that 
configure.in has "AC_PREREQ(2.52)")

./configure; make;

It oughta work. 

--chuck


Harold Hunt wrote:

> Steve,
> 
> I'm working on creating Cygwin setup.exe packages for Gnome... I know, it's
> buggy but I'd like to get a start.  One problem I'm having with your patches
> is that they use mkdll.sh but they don't cause configure to copy the file to
> a build directory.
> 
> For example:
> 
> tar xzf glib-1.2.10.tar.gz
> cd glib-1.2.10
> patch -p1 < ../glib-1.2.10-cygwin.patch
> mkdir build
> cd build
> ../configure
> [yada yada yada]
> make
> [yada yada yada]
> mkdir .libs
> ar cru .libs/libglib.a  garray.o gcache.o gcompletion.o gdataset.o gdate.o
> gerro
> r.o ghash.o ghook.o giochannel.o giounix.o glist.o gmain.o gmem.o
> gmessages.o gm
> utex.o gnode.o gprimes.o grel.o gscanner.o gslist.o gstrfuncs.o gstring.o
> gtimer
> .o gtree.o gutils.o
> ranlib .libs/libglib.a
> creating libglib.la
> (cd .libs && rm -f libglib.la && ln -s ../libglib.la libglib.la)
> cd .libs && PREFIX=/usr sh ../mkdll.sh libglib.la
> ../mkdll.sh: Can't open ../mkdll.sh: No such file or directory
> make[2]: *** [libglib.la] Error 2
> make[2]: Leaving directory
> `/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
> 10/.build'
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory
> `/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
> 10/.build'
> make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
> 
> 
> Eventually I always reach a point where mkdll.sh can't be found because
> configure didn't copy it to the out-of-the-tree build directory.
> 
> Got any ideas on how to fix this?
> 
> Harold
> 
> 
> 




From gh@herbort-rottschaefer.de  Tue Apr 30 05:41:00 2002
From: gh@herbort-rottschaefer.de (Gregor Herbort)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 05:41:00 -0000
Subject: Installation Problems
Message-ID: 

Hello,

here what i got from Aaron Newcomb as an answer for the problem i described
on 25. April. I tried it and it works.


Gregor,

I happend to read your post on the cygwin/XFree mailing list archive. I ran
into the same problem and was able to fix it. It seems that the new cygwin
install program does not install all the necessary libraries that are needed
to run the XFree86 install. Here is what I had to do.

INSTALLATION:

To update your installation, click on the "Install Cygwin now" link
on the http://cygwin.com/ web page.  This downloads setup.exe to
your system.  Save it and run setup, answer the questions and pick
up 'gettext' from the 'Libs' category.  You may need to
click the "Full" (or "View") button if it doesn't show up.  You might want
to make sure you update/install ALL of the following three packages:
  gettext-0.10.40-1
  libintl1-0.10.40-1
  libintl-0.10.38-3

I also had to install pcre to get the script to run properly. I hope this
helps. You might want to pass this info back to the mailing list if you are
still subscribed since I do not plan on subscribing right now.

Thanks,
Aaron Newcomb
http://www.newcombnet.com
aaron@newcombnet.com

-----Urspr??ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
[mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]Im Auftrag von Gregor Herbort
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. April 2002 11:41
An: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Betreff: Installation Problems


Hello,

i downloaded Cygwin/XFree86. When i try to install with ./Xinstall i get a
Windows Error Message that the cygintl-1.dll is missing.
Nevertheless the Xinstall script starts and examined the file extract.exe
and comes to the conclusion that this file si not correct renamed it and
then the script stops.
Any tips?

greetings
Gregor

Herbort und Rottsch??fer - IT-Konzeptionen
http://www.herbort-rottschaefer.de
Antoniuskirchplatz 16
48151 M??nster
tel:0251-1367594 fax:0251-1367595


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Tue Apr 30 06:20:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 06:20:00 -0000
Subject: upset stumper [cgf, Robert Collins, please comment]
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:10 PM

> install: release/XFree86/gtk+/gtk+-1.2.10-1.tar.bz2 2566794
> source: release/XFree86/gtk+/gtk+-1.2.10-1-src.tar.bz2 2884874
> 
> 
> Notice that the version is thought to be "-1.2.10-1", rather 
> than "1.2.10-1".
> 
> Robert, can setup.exe handle a '+' in the package name?

It should be able to. What do you see in the chooser if you point setup
at your setup.ini file (after correcting the version entry).

Rob 


From arun2202@hotmail.com  Tue Apr 30 06:54:00 2002
From: arun2202@hotmail.com (arun)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 06:54:00 -0000
Subject: newbie
Message-ID: 

hello,

I have an x windows application compiled for linux.This application
extensively uses graphics Can I directly port it to windows using
Cygwin/xfree86 ??

thanx


From sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com  Tue Apr 30 07:12:00 2002
From: sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com (Sam Edge)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:12:00 -0000
Subject: Best place for WindowMaker, Openbox, etc.?
In-Reply-To: <20020429213920.GA2051@redhat.com>
References:   <20020429213920.GA2051@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Christopher Faylor wrote in <20020429213920.GA2051@redhat.com>
in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Mon, 29 Apr 2002 17:39:20 -0400:

> If they run under it, they belong in the XFree86 hierarchy.  That's
> why I created it.

I didn't mean to tread on any toes. I was expressing an opinion.
Perhaps I should have made that clearer. Sorry.

Most packages "run under" Cygwin itself, but they're not all
sub-directories of release/cygwin.

XFree86 is a distinct entity in its own right. Everything currently
under that folder is part of the XFree86 project. 

Other things that can use X such as rxvt and WindowMaker aren't part
of XFree86 itself. In my opinion they should have their own
directories and perhaps a new category such as "Xapps."

* shrug *

It's a minor detail.

-- 
Sam Edge


From FRANZW@dk.ibm.com  Tue Apr 30 07:20:00 2002
From: FRANZW@dk.ibm.com (Franz Wolfhagen)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:20:00 -0000
Subject: Best place for WindowMaker, Openbox, etc.?
Message-ID: 


>Other things that can use X such as rxvt and WindowMaker aren't part
>of XFree86 itself. In my opinion they should have their own
>directories and perhaps a new category such as "Xapps."

I think a category of Xmanagers for WindowMaker and Openbox etc. would be
better.

Xapps should be applications ported such as GIMP, lynx etc.

Med venlig hilsen / Regards
Franz Wolfhagen


From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr 30 07:25:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:25:00 -0000
Subject: Best place for WindowMaker, Openbox, etc.?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020430141215.GA11819@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 03:53:13PM +0200, Franz Wolfhagen wrote:
>>Other things that can use X such as rxvt and WindowMaker aren't part of
>>XFree86 itself.  In my opinion they should have their own directories
>>and perhaps a new category such as "Xapps."
>
>I think a category of Xmanagers for WindowMaker and Openbox etc.  would
>be better.

We are not talking about categories.  The question was where to physically
put the actual tar balls.

cgf


From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr 30 07:29:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:29:00 -0000
Subject: upset stumper [cgf, Robert Collins, please comment]
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020430142016.GA12043@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 02:09:56AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>version: -1.2.10-1
>install: release/XFree86/gtk+/gtk+-1.2.10-1.tar.bz2 2566794
>source: release/XFree86/gtk+/gtk+-1.2.10-1-src.tar.bz2 2884874
>
>
>Notice that the version is thought to be "-1.2.10-1", rather than
>"1.2.10-1".
>
>Robert, can setup.exe handle a '+' in the package name?

upset was confused by the fact that '+' is a regex meta character.
I've checked in a fix so it should work better now.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 30 07:30:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:30:00 -0000
Subject: upset stumper [cgf, Robert Collins, please comment]
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Robert,

I forgot to reply last night that I had hand-fixed the setup.ini file and
setup.exe ran fine after that.

Thanks,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Robert Collins
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 5:08 AM
> To: Harold Hunt; cygx
> Subject: RE: upset stumper [cgf, Robert Collins, please comment]
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:10 PM
>
> > install: release/XFree86/gtk+/gtk+-1.2.10-1.tar.bz2 2566794
> > source: release/XFree86/gtk+/gtk+-1.2.10-1-src.tar.bz2 2884874
> >
> >
> > Notice that the version is thought to be "-1.2.10-1", rather
> > than "1.2.10-1".
> >
> > Robert, can setup.exe handle a '+' in the package name?
>
> It should be able to. What do you see in the chooser if you point setup
> at your setup.ini file (after correcting the version entry).
>
> Rob


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 30 07:33:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:33:00 -0000
Subject: upset stumper [cgf, Robert Collins, please comment]
In-Reply-To: <20020430142016.GA12043@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Chris,

Much better, thanks.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 10:20 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: upset stumper [cgf, Robert Collins, please comment]
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 02:09:56AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
> >version: -1.2.10-1
> >install: release/XFree86/gtk+/gtk+-1.2.10-1.tar.bz2 2566794
> >source: release/XFree86/gtk+/gtk+-1.2.10-1-src.tar.bz2 2884874
> >
> >
> >Notice that the version is thought to be "-1.2.10-1", rather than
> >"1.2.10-1".
> >
> >Robert, can setup.exe handle a '+' in the package name?
> 
> upset was confused by the fact that '+' is a regex meta character.
> I've checked in a fix so it should work better now.
> 
> cgf


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Tue Apr 30 07:34:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:34:00 -0000
Subject: newbie
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

/ "arun"  wrote:
| hello,
| 
| I have an x windows application compiled for linux.This application
| extensively uses graphics Can I directly port it to windows using
| Cygwin/xfree86 ??

If it is clean portable c/c++ code - yep. If you do a bunch os-specific
stuff and so on, you have to put some work on it.

        /Andy

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 30 07:41:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:41:00 -0000
Subject: Failed assertion bug using OpenOffice.org
In-Reply-To: <200204242121.g3OLL1M18116@d1o1006.telia.com>
Message-ID: 

Peter,

Yes, we are aware of that bug.  We're slowly getting around to working on
it.

Several other cases produce that same failed assertation message.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Peter Magnusson
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:21 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Failed assertion bug using OpenOffice.org
>
>
> I have a setup with cygwin 1.3.9-1 and 4.2.0 of cygwin-xfree.
> I have a little problem when using openoffice.org (641c) both with and
> without a windowmanager. I use SuSE 7.3 Pro Linux distribution with
> KDE. I use Windows 2000 Pro, SP2 (english).
>
> When accessing any of the menuitems a Windows(ms) dialog box pops up
> saying ...
> ---------------------
> Faild assertion
>    fds_on_hold !NULL
> at line 601 of /cygnus/netrel/src/cygwin-1.3.9-1/winsup/cygwin/dtable.cc
> ---------------------
> This seems to be a similar bug that has been reported when using KDE3
> but I am not sertain.
> I get the same results using the T55 version of XWin.exe.
>
> I use openoffice.org a lot and it would be a lot simpler if I could use
> the same environment (XWindows) when using my Windows box as well.
>
>
> ======================================
>             Peter Magnusson
>          mailto:kmpm@telia.com
> ======================================


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 30 07:42:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:42:00 -0000
Subject: newbie
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

That all depends.  Your chances are pretty good.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com 
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of arun
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:42 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: newbie
> 
> 
> hello,
> 
> I have an x windows application compiled for linux.This application
> extensively uses graphics Can I directly port it to windows using
> Cygwin/xfree86 ??
> 
> thanx


From sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com  Tue Apr 30 07:43:00 2002
From: sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com (Sam Edge)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:43:00 -0000
Subject: Best place for WindowMaker, Openbox, etc.?
In-Reply-To: <20020430141215.GA11819@redhat.com>
References:  <20020430141215.GA11819@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Christopher Faylor wrote in <20020430141215.GA11819@redhat.com>
in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:12:15 -0400:

> >>Other things that can use X such as rxvt and WindowMaker aren't part of
> >>XFree86 itself.  In my opinion they should have their own directories
> >>and perhaps a new category such as "Xapps."
> >
> >I think a category of Xmanagers for WindowMaker and Openbox etc.  would
> >be better.
> 
> We are not talking about categories.  The question was where to physically
> put the actual tar balls.

The categories could be discussed as well. ;-) I'm not sure we need a
distinction between window managers and other applications in terms of
categories. They all just need an X server - pretty much any X server
- although some do rely on certain parts of the XFree86 distribution
on the machine where they're executing. (Where this is the case they
should have dependencies in setup.hint/setup.ini of course.)

-- 
Sam Edge


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 30 07:53:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:53:00 -0000
Subject: mkdll.sh
In-Reply-To: <3CCE3E34.3040401@ece.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: 

Chuck,

Could you give a few more notes on "relibtoolize"?  A pointer to some good
documentation would be helpful...

Is the general idea here that I would just be working on the config files
and makefiles, rather than having to make extensive internal changes to the
way that libraries are loaded?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Charles Wilson
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:48 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Cc: cygx
> Subject: Re: mkdll.sh
>
>
> You could probably do the following:
>
> get rid of mkdll.sh
> relibtoolize/autoconf using the "-devel" tools (e.g. make sure that
> configure.in has "AC_PREREQ(2.52)")
>
> ./configure; make;
>
> It oughta work. 
>
> --chuck
>
>
> Harold Hunt wrote:
>
> > Steve,
> >
> > I'm working on creating Cygwin setup.exe packages for Gnome...
> I know, it's
> > buggy but I'd like to get a start.  One problem I'm having with
> your patches
> > is that they use mkdll.sh but they don't cause configure to
> copy the file to
> > a build directory.
> >
> > For example:
> >
> > tar xzf glib-1.2.10.tar.gz
> > cd glib-1.2.10
> > patch -p1 < ../glib-1.2.10-cygwin.patch
> > mkdir build
> > cd build
> > ../configure
> > [yada yada yada]
> > make
> > [yada yada yada]
> > mkdir .libs
> > ar cru .libs/libglib.a  garray.o gcache.o gcompletion.o
> gdataset.o gdate.o
> > gerro
> > r.o ghash.o ghook.o giochannel.o giounix.o glist.o gmain.o gmem.o
> > gmessages.o gm
> > utex.o gnode.o gprimes.o grel.o gscanner.o gslist.o gstrfuncs.o
> gstring.o
> > gtimer
> > .o gtree.o gutils.o
> > ranlib .libs/libglib.a
> > creating libglib.la
> > (cd .libs && rm -f libglib.la && ln -s ../libglib.la libglib.la)
> > cd .libs && PREFIX=/usr sh ../mkdll.sh libglib.la
> > ../mkdll.sh: Can't open ../mkdll.sh: No such file or directory
> > make[2]: *** [libglib.la] Error 2
> > make[2]: Leaving directory
> > `/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
> > 10/.build'
> > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > make[1]: Leaving directory
> > `/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
> > 10/.build'
> > make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
> >
> >
> > Eventually I always reach a point where mkdll.sh can't be found because
> > configure didn't copy it to the out-of-the-tree build directory.
> >
> > Got any ideas on how to fix this?
> >
> > Harold
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 30 07:55:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:55:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] New Cygwin setup.exe package: lesstif
Message-ID: 

Lesstif, http://www.lesstif.org/,  is now available via setup.exe.

Enjoy,

Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 30 07:59:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:59:00 -0000
Subject: Installation Problems
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Gregor,

Thanks, I updated the setup.hint file to list this dependencies for
XFree86-base.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Gregor Herbort
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:40 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: Installation Problems
>
>
> Hello,
>
> here what i got from Aaron Newcomb as an answer for the problem i
> described
> on 25. April. I tried it and it works.
>
>
> Gregor,
>
> I happend to read your post on the cygwin/XFree mailing list
> archive. I ran
> into the same problem and was able to fix it. It seems that the new cygwin
> install program does not install all the necessary libraries that
> are needed
> to run the XFree86 install. Here is what I had to do.
>
> INSTALLATION:
>
> To update your installation, click on the "Install Cygwin now" link
> on the http://cygwin.com/ web page.  This downloads setup.exe to
> your system.  Save it and run setup, answer the questions and pick
> up 'gettext' from the 'Libs' category.  You may need to
> click the "Full" (or "View") button if it doesn't show up.  You might want
> to make sure you update/install ALL of the following three packages:
>   gettext-0.10.40-1
>   libintl1-0.10.40-1
>   libintl-0.10.38-3
>
> I also had to install pcre to get the script to run properly. I hope this
> helps. You might want to pass this info back to the mailing list
> if you are
> still subscribed since I do not plan on subscribing right now.
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron Newcomb
> http://www.newcombnet.com
> aaron@newcombnet.com
>
> -----Urspr??ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]Im Auftrag von Gregor Herbort
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. April 2002 11:41
> An: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Betreff: Installation Problems
>
>
> Hello,
>
> i downloaded Cygwin/XFree86. When i try to install with ./Xinstall i get a
> Windows Error Message that the cygintl-1.dll is missing.
> Nevertheless the Xinstall script starts and examined the file extract.exe
> and comes to the conclusion that this file si not correct renamed it and
> then the script stops.
> Any tips?
>
> greetings
> Gregor
>
> Herbort und Rottsch??fer - IT-Konzeptionen
> http://www.herbort-rottschaefer.de
> Antoniuskirchplatz 16
> 48151 M??nster
> tel:0251-1367594 fax:0251-1367595
>


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Tue Apr 30 08:43:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:43:00 -0000
Subject: By the way...
References: 
Message-ID: <3CCEB0EA.7020804@ece.gatech.edu>

Harold Hunt wrote:

> ... I added a link to your Cygwin Gnome page to Cygwin/XFree86's Ported
> Software page:
> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ported-software.html
> 
> I'm very impressed with your work to compile Gnome with DLLs.  Keep it up!


A couple of things:

1) pkgconfig.  I'm the cygwin pkgconfig maintainer, and I'd like to 
insure that you can use the "official" version in your port.  You are 
using a patched version of 0.8.0; cygwin distributes 0.10.0; but 0.12.0 
is now available.  Could you try 0.12.0 (unpatched and/or patched) and 
see if that works for you?

If you must use a patched version of 0.12.0, then I'd consider 
incorporating that patch into the official cygwin dist; also, in that 
case, we could submit your patch upstream for incorporation into the 
"real" 0.13.0...

2) libiconv/gettext: If someone 'adopts' my setup-compatible package for 
libiconv -- see thes3 messages:
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-04/msg01558.html
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-02/msg00467.html

and it is included in the official cygwin dist, then I would rebuild the 
official gettext package to use it.  (Yes, I'm also the cygwin gettext 
maintainer).

3) cygextras: why not submit these as patches to the cygwin DLL? If it 
is because the code is from gnu libc, then you could in partnership with 
someone else, reimplement them and submit the result: your partner would 
actually write the code to the specifications you develop; you would 
verify that the result operates the same as the current version. 
("Chinese Firewall").  Then, assign copyright on the reimplementations 
to Red Hat/Cygwin, and submit!

4) berkeley db: folks have been asking for this for a long time.  Would 
you consider packaging it up and submitting it as an official package? 
(Don't worry about the tcl thing; you needn't be able to run the test 
suite on an "official ports only" system).  side note: any idea why 
Gnome doesn't use the GNU database instead? gdbm?

5) libungif: just like libiconv, I have a setup-compatible package for 
this.  If someone wants to adopt it and submit it for official 
inclusion, contact me offline.

--Chuck


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Tue Apr 30 08:43:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:43:00 -0000
Subject: By the way...
References: 
Message-ID: <3CCEB0EA.7020804@ece.gatech.edu>

Harold Hunt wrote:

> ... I added a link to your Cygwin Gnome page to Cygwin/XFree86's Ported
> Software page:
> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ported-software.html
> 
> I'm very impressed with your work to compile Gnome with DLLs.  Keep it up!


A couple of things:

1) pkgconfig.  I'm the cygwin pkgconfig maintainer, and I'd like to 
insure that you can use the "official" version in your port.  You are 
using a patched version of 0.8.0; cygwin distributes 0.10.0; but 0.12.0 
is now available.  Could you try 0.12.0 (unpatched and/or patched) and 
see if that works for you?

If you must use a patched version of 0.12.0, then I'd consider 
incorporating that patch into the official cygwin dist; also, in that 
case, we could submit your patch upstream for incorporation into the 
"real" 0.13.0...

2) libiconv/gettext: If someone 'adopts' my setup-compatible package for 
libiconv -- see thes3 messages:
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-04/msg01558.html
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-02/msg00467.html

and it is included in the official cygwin dist, then I would rebuild the 
official gettext package to use it.  (Yes, I'm also the cygwin gettext 
maintainer).

3) cygextras: why not submit these as patches to the cygwin DLL? If it 
is because the code is from gnu libc, then you could in partnership with 
someone else, reimplement them and submit the result: your partner would 
actually write the code to the specifications you develop; you would 
verify that the result operates the same as the current version. 
("Chinese Firewall").  Then, assign copyright on the reimplementations 
to Red Hat/Cygwin, and submit!

4) berkeley db: folks have been asking for this for a long time.  Would 
you consider packaging it up and submitting it as an official package? 
(Don't worry about the tcl thing; you needn't be able to run the test 
suite on an "official ports only" system).  side note: any idea why 
Gnome doesn't use the GNU database instead? gdbm?

5) libungif: just like libiconv, I have a setup-compatible package for 
this.  If someone wants to adopt it and submit it for official 
inclusion, contact me offline.

--Chuck




From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr 30 08:45:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:45:00 -0000
Subject: Best place for WindowMaker, Openbox, etc.?
In-Reply-To: 
References:  <20020430141215.GA11819@redhat.com> 
Message-ID: <20020430145927.GA21634@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 03:39:40PM +0100, Sam Edge wrote:
>Christopher Faylor wrote in <20020430141215.GA11819@redhat.com>
>in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:12:15 -0400:
>>>>Other things that can use X such as rxvt and WindowMaker aren't part of
>>>>XFree86 itself.  In my opinion they should have their own directories
>>>>and perhaps a new category such as "Xapps."
>>>
>>>I think a category of Xmanagers for WindowMaker and Openbox etc.  would
>>>be better.
>>
>>We are not talking about categories.  The question was where to
>>physically put the actual tar balls.
>
>The categories could be discussed as well.  ;-)

So start another thread rather than confuse the issue by responding as
if you are actually answering a question that was never asked.

cgf


From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Tue Apr 30 09:01:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:01:00 -0000
Subject: problems with kde 1.1.2 kcontrol solved
Message-ID: <001801c1f05d$b0a3bcb0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>

Hi,

some month ago I've encountered a problem with kde 1.1.2 kcontol.

The problem was, that a once called kcontrol page was hidden for further calls.
Currently I have checked this with the xfree 4.2.0 release and recognizes that
it this problem is gone away.

Thanks for this good work.

Ralf Habacker



From pcolovas@lucent.com  Tue Apr 30 11:54:00 2002
From: pcolovas@lucent.com (Peter W. Colovas)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:54:00 -0000
Subject: cut and paste from MS windows app to xfree (xfce) app
Message-ID: <3CCEBB88.2E1D3858@lucent.com>

How do I cut and paste from MS windows app to xfree (xfce) app? I can't
find anything about it in the docs or archives. Is it specific to each
WM?
Thanks,
-Pete
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From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Tue Apr 30 11:58:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:58:00 -0000
Subject: mkdll.sh
References: 
Message-ID: <3CCEBCAD.30904@ece.gatech.edu>

Harold Hunt wrote:

 > Chuck,
 >
 > Could you give a few more notes on "relibtoolize"?  A pointer to some 
good
 > documentation would be helpful...


Well, there's the goat book http://sources.redhat.com/autobook/ but it's 
a bit out of date, now...

Here's the procedure I used to "relibtoolize" libiconv.  Libiconv is a 
worst-case example: they distribute their own fork of autoconf itself, 
they redistribute system m4 macros, ... they're just plain evil.  But, 
if you can understand *this*, then "relibtoolizing" anything else should 
be a piece of cake...

Short version: remove autogenerated files.  Replace "standard" files 
with the newest versions (install-sh, mkinstalldirs, config.guess, 
config.sub) -- you can also just remove these and let the autotools copy 
in what they need (use the --force --c -a switches, or their analog: not 
every tool has exactly the same syntax).  Rerun the the autotools in the 
proper order (more later).

#1) libiconv actually ships its OWN VERSION of autoconf.  This is dumb.

rm autoconf/acgeneral.m4
rm autoconf/acspecific.m4
rm autoconf/aclocal.m4
rm autoconf/autoconf
rm autoconf/autoconf.m4
rm autoconf/mbstate_t.m4

#2) remove the "normal" distribution files that are created by autoconf.

rm autoconf/install-sh
rm autoconf/config.guess
rm autoconf/config.sub
rm configure

#3) remove the obsolete libtool files (libtool no longer uses "ltmain.sh")

rm autoconf/ltmain.sh

#4) I don't like hiding the autofiles, so I removed the subdir and will 
change configure.in appropriately, but you don't have to do that.

rmdir autoconf

#5) libiconv doesn't use automake, but it does distribute some scripts 
from automake.  Replace them with the current versions.  (Actually, 
libiconv only distributed install-sh; it used the mkinstalldirs from the 
libcharset subdirectory, "proper" auto* usage requires that each 
separately configure project have its own copy...and of course, I put 
install-sh in the top directory, libiconv had it in the autoconf subdir)

cp /usr/autotool/devel/share/automake/mkinstalldirs .
cp /usr/autotool/devel/share/automake/install-sh .

#6) repeat steps 1-4 for the libcharset subdirectory.  Normally, this is 
unnecessary, but libiconv actually treats libcharset as a separate 
project, with it's own configure script and suchlike...

rm libcharset/autoconf/aclocal.m4
rm libcharset/autoconf/mkinstalldirs
rm libcharset/autoconf/install-sh
rm libcharset/autoconf/config.guess
rm libcharset/autoconf/config.sub
rm libcharset/autoconf/ltmain.sh
rm libcharset/configure
rmdir libcharset/autoconf

#7) libcharset also includes its own copies of some .m4 scripts that are 
part of gettext.  Use the system ones.

rm libcharset/m4/codeset.m4
rm libcharset/m4/glibc21.m4

#8) AND we're going to use the system libtool...and cleanup.

rm libcharset/m4/libtool.m4
rm libcharset/m4/ChangeLog
rmdir libcharset/m4

#9) Similar to step #5, replace the "automake" files with the latest 
version (even though libcharset doesn't use automake...).  Both 
mkinstalldirs and install-sh WERE in the autoconf subdir of libcharset; 
I put them in the top level (of libcharset).  Each separately configured 
project needs its own copy...

cp /usr/autotool/devel/share/automake/mkinstalldirs libcharset/
cp /usr/autotool/devel/share/automake/install-sh libcharset/

#10) As promised, I need to change a few items in configure.in (e.g. 
don't use the "autoconf" subdir (or libcharset/autoconf or 
libcharset/m4).  Also, since the "special" versions of the autoconf 
files that libiconv distributes were slightly modified -- okay, they 
were distributing a fork -- I parsed out the differences they had, and 
put those macros into acinclude.m4...

The patch is attached.

The patch also AC_PREREQ's 2.52 instead of 2.13 (I want to use the 
-devel tree), but that required a few other changes due to 
incompatibilities (AC_OUTPUT_SUBDIRS ---> AC_CONFIG_SUBDIRS, etc)

Normally, you'd also re-run autoheader at some point, but that didn't 
work (thanks to the fact that libiconv uses a forked autoconf dist...) 
So I patched libcharset/config.h.in by hand...

#11) Okay, here's the meat:  First, we relibtoolize libcharset:

cd libcharset
aclocal
libtoolize -c -f
aclocal # (again)
autoconf

cd 
aclocal
libtoolize -c -f
aclocal # (again)
autoconf

Why the second aclocal step?  Because libtoolize adds additional stuff 
in configure.in, which require additional macros to be pulled into 
aclocal.m4.  Why not run libtoolize first, and then aclocal?  Because 
libtoolize needs a pre-existing aclocal.m4...

Normally, you'd run "automake -a -c" between the second aclocal and 
autoconf, but libiconv doesn't use automake.  Also, you'd normally run 
autoheader after the second aclocal -- but we can't because libiconv sucks.

Finally, you should be able to configure and make as "normal":

conf() {
   (cd ${objdir} && \
   ${srcdir}/configure --build=${host} --target=${target} \
   --srcdir=${srcdir} --prefix=${prefix} \
   --exec-prefix=${prefix} --sysconfdir=${sysconfdir} \
   --libdir=${prefix}/lib --includedir=${prefix}/include \
   --enable-shared --enable-static )
}


 > Is the general idea here that I would just be working on the config files
 > and makefiles, rather than having to make extensive internal changes 
to the
 > way that libraries are loaded?


Yes.

--Chuck


Harold Hunt wrote:

> Chuck,
> 
> Could you give a few more notes on "relibtoolize"?  A pointer to some good
> documentation would be helpful...
> 
> Is the general idea here that I would just be working on the config files
> and makefiles, rather than having to make extensive internal changes to the
> way that libraries are loaded?
> 
> Harold
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
>>[mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Charles Wilson
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:48 AM
>>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>>Cc: cygx
>>Subject: Re: mkdll.sh
>>
>>
>>You could probably do the following:
>>
>>get rid of mkdll.sh
>>relibtoolize/autoconf using the "-devel" tools (e.g. make sure that
>>configure.in has "AC_PREREQ(2.52)")
>>
>>./configure; make;
>>
>>It oughta work. 
>>
>>--chuck
>>
>>
>>Harold Hunt wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Steve,
>>>
>>>I'm working on creating Cygwin setup.exe packages for Gnome...
>>>
>>I know, it's
>>
>>>buggy but I'd like to get a start.  One problem I'm having with
>>>
>>your patches
>>
>>>is that they use mkdll.sh but they don't cause configure to
>>>
>>copy the file to
>>
>>>a build directory.
>>>
>>>For example:
>>>
>>>tar xzf glib-1.2.10.tar.gz
>>>cd glib-1.2.10
>>>patch -p1 < ../glib-1.2.10-cygwin.patch
>>>mkdir build
>>>cd build
>>>../configure
>>>[yada yada yada]
>>>make
>>>[yada yada yada]
>>>mkdir .libs
>>>ar cru .libs/libglib.a  garray.o gcache.o gcompletion.o
>>>
>>gdataset.o gdate.o
>>
>>>gerro
>>>r.o ghash.o ghook.o giochannel.o giounix.o glist.o gmain.o gmem.o
>>>gmessages.o gm
>>>utex.o gnode.o gprimes.o grel.o gscanner.o gslist.o gstrfuncs.o
>>>
>>gstring.o
>>
>>>gtimer
>>>.o gtree.o gutils.o
>>>ranlib .libs/libglib.a
>>>creating libglib.la
>>>(cd .libs && rm -f libglib.la && ln -s ../libglib.la libglib.la)
>>>cd .libs && PREFIX=/usr sh ../mkdll.sh libglib.la
>>>../mkdll.sh: Can't open ../mkdll.sh: No such file or directory
>>>make[2]: *** [libglib.la] Error 2
>>>make[2]: Leaving directory
>>>`/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
>>>10/.build'
>>>make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>>>make[1]: Leaving directory
>>>`/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
>>>10/.build'
>>>make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
>>>
>>>
>>>Eventually I always reach a point where mkdll.sh can't be found because
>>>configure didn't copy it to the out-of-the-tree build directory.
>>>
>>>Got any ideas on how to fix this?
>>>
>>>Harold
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 

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From francois.perrot@cgey.com  Tue Apr 30 12:08:00 2002
From: francois.perrot@cgey.com (Francois Perrot)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:08:00 -0000
Subject: cut and paste from MS windows app to xfree (xfce) app
References: <3CCEBB88.2E1D3858@lucent.com>
Message-ID: <014001c1f05f$564f6e10$9b4e430a@cgey.cgey.fr>

Hi Peter,

What about using xwinclip ? It's definitly a GREAT improuvement in cygwin
users everyday's life.
You'll find it in the xfree page...

Fran??ois "The Happy xwinclip User..." Perrot

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter W. Colovas" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 5:43 PM
Subject: cut and paste from MS windows app to xfree (xfce) app


> How do I cut and paste from MS windows app to xfree (xfce) app? I can't
> find anything about it in the docs or archives. Is it specific to each
> WM?
> Thanks,
> -Pete


From steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com  Tue Apr 30 13:55:00 2002
From: steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com (Steven O'Brien)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 13:55:00 -0000
Subject: mkdll.sh
In-Reply-To: <3CCE3E34.3040401@ece.gatech.edu>
References: 
	<3CCE3E34.3040401@ece.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <20020430195347.137a7949.steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com>

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 02:48:20 -0400
Charles Wilson  wrote:

> You could probably do the following:
> 
> get rid of mkdll.sh
> relibtoolize/autoconf using the "-devel" tools (e.g. make sure that 
> configure.in has "AC_PREREQ(2.52)")
> 
> ./configure; make;
> 
> It oughta work. 
> 
> --chuck
> 
> 
> Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> > Steve,
> > 
> > I'm working on creating Cygwin setup.exe packages for Gnome... I know, it's
> > buggy but I'd like to get a start.  One problem I'm having with your patches
> > is that they use mkdll.sh but they don't cause configure to copy the file to
> > a build directory.

> > Eventually I always reach a point where mkdll.sh can't be found because
> > configure didn't copy it to the out-of-the-tree build directory.
> > 
> > Got any ideas on how to fix this?
> > 
> > Harold

This port is really an experiment. It was started before the cygwin libtool was available, and before the auto-import function of ld was available, and it's showing that age. Chuck is right, mkdll is not at all suitable for a general distribution. 
There are in fact several different incarnations of the mkdll script in the various gnome patches. glib was one of the first packages I played with, so it was done with the least knowledge and experience, and hence is one of the most inflexible.
You could try making the path to mkdll relative to the source tree rather than the current working directory, for example by using $(top_srcdir)/mkdll.sh instead of ../mkdll.sh in Makefile.in
Actually the next phase of my plan was to understand the use of autotools, and apply them to the gnome 2 packages. It should be easier there because gnome 2 has standardised on autoconf 2.5.x, whereas the gnome 1.4 packages use various old autoconf/automake versions. I have not been in any hurry though because gnome 2 is still changing much too quickly for me to have a hope of keeping up. 

Steven


From steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com  Tue Apr 30 21:20:00 2002
From: steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com (Steven O'Brien)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:20:00 -0000
Subject: By the way...
In-Reply-To: <3CCEB0EA.7020804@ece.gatech.edu>
References: 
	<3CCEB0EA.7020804@ece.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <20020430195848.42728ae1.steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com>

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:57:46 -0400
Charles Wilson  wrote:

> Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> > ... I added a link to your Cygwin Gnome page to Cygwin/XFree86's Ported
> > Software page:
> > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ported-software.html
> > 
> > I'm very impressed with your work to compile Gnome with DLLs.  Keep it up!
> 
> 
> A couple of things:
> 
> 1) pkgconfig.  I'm the cygwin pkgconfig maintainer, and I'd like to 
> insure that you can use the "official" version in your port.  You are 
> using a patched version of 0.8.0; cygwin distributes 0.10.0; but 0.12.0 
> is now available.  Could you try 0.12.0 (unpatched and/or patched) and 
> see if that works for you?

I'll add that to the list of jobs ...
When I started work on gnome-vfs pkg-config was not in the "official" cygwin distribution and 0.8.0 was the latest version. I patched it to remove the included glib, so that it uses my glib port. When pkgconfig was added to cygwin I tried it, but gnome-vfs would not build, so I just ignored it. My focus was, and still is, on gnome so doing more work on pkgconfig was of no interest. But I'll certainly try the new one.

> If you must use a patched version of 0.12.0, then I'd consider 
> incorporating that patch into the official cygwin dist; also, in that 
> case, we could submit your patch upstream for incorporation into the 
> "real" 0.13.0...
 
As the patch just removes the embedded glib, I think its of no use to the "real" pkgconfig.


> 3) cygextras: why not submit these as patches to the cygwin DLL? If it 
> is because the code is from gnu libc, then you could in partnership with 
> someone else, reimplement them and submit the result: your partner would 
> actually write the code to the specifications you develop; you would 
> verify that the result operates the same as the current version. 
> ("Chinese Firewall").  Then, assign copyright on the reimplementations 
> to Red Hat/Cygwin, and submit!

cygextras contains strptime and getdelim. I understand the strptime is "coming soon" to cygwin anyway, so I'll just drop mine then. getdelim came from the gnu C library. Again its just a distraction from working on gnome, and I'll leave it to others to add it to cygwin.

> 
> 4) berkeley db: folks have been asking for this for a long time.  Would 
> you consider packaging it up and submitting it as an official package? 
> (Don't worry about the tcl thing; you needn't be able to run the test 
> suite on an "official ports only" system).  side note: any idea why 
> Gnome doesn't use the GNU database instead? gdbm?

No. I don't have any free time to support cygwin packages, although I do have great respect for those, such as yourself, who do. I think that gnome no longer requires version 2.7.7, but has moved on to version 3.x.x. This patched version did actually pass its test suite when I first did it, but I no longer have access to the cygwin tcl port I used, so I cannot reproduce the result.

Steven


From Nils.Lichtenfeld@gmx.net  Tue Apr 30 21:28:00 2002
From: Nils.Lichtenfeld@gmx.net (Nils Lichtenfeld)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:28:00 -0000
Subject: Display CDE through ssh?
Message-ID: <015d01c1f07a$a60b9da0$9603a8c0@Gundy>

Hello there!

I am totaly new to this project. Installed cygwin/XFree86 like told in
the documentation. Also managed to connect to my university through ssh
and started some x-applications like mozill etc. by following the
documentation. Beautifull!

The machines at the university run HPUX with CDE. Is it possible to get
the CDE-userinterface shown remoteley (like realy sitting infront of
one).

Greetings, Nils


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Tue Apr 30 22:55:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 22:55:00 -0000
Subject: By the way...
References: 	<3CCEB0EA.7020804@ece.gatech.edu> <20020430195848.42728ae1.steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <3CCF04D6.30005@ece.gatech.edu>

Steven O'Brien wrote:
 >> 1) pkgconfig.  I'm the cygwin pkgconfig maintainer, and I'd like
 >
 > I'll add that to the list of jobs ... When I started work on
 > gnome-vfs pkg-config was not in the "official" cygwin distribution
 > and 0.8.0 was the latest version. I patched it to remove the
 > included glib, so that it uses my glib port. When pkgconfig was
 > added to cygwin I tried it, but gnome-vfs would not build, so I
 > just ignored it. My focus was, and still is, on gnome so doing more
 >  work on pkgconfig was of no interest. But I'll certainly try the
 > new one.

What was the rationale for removing the included glib?  It was put into 
pkgconfig in order to break the recursive dependence: glib requires 
pkgconfig which requires glib which ...

Granted, the version of glib included in pkgconfig is old (but it's 
capable enough for what pkgconfig needs) and has a one-line bug when 
compiling on cygwin; I just patch that and move on...

Anyway, if your version of pkgconfig (0.8.0 + local glib) compiled 
gnome-vfs (on a particular date), yet the "official" cygwin version of 
pkgconfig (0.10.0) failed to do so:

I would think the problem is either:
   something broke in the real pkgconfig sources between 0.8.0 and 0.10.0
or
   gnome-vfs (on the particular date) was either exploiting a bug in 
pkgconfig-0.8.0, or was otherwise broken.

I don't think the answer is to use (and recommend) that cygwinners who 
want gnome use a old version of pkgconfig with a circular dependency...

Thanks for offering to try with "real" pkgconfig-0.12.0.  You'll 
probably need to apply this patch (if you keep the included static glib):

--- pkgconfig-0.10.0-orig/glib-1.2.8/gstrfuncs.c        Mon Apr 17 
11:05:16 2000
+++ pkgconfig-0.10.0/glib-1.2.8/gstrfuncs.c     Sat Feb 23 01:38:15 2002
@@ -671,7 +671,7 @@
    char *msg;

  #ifdef HAVE_STRSIGNAL
-  extern char *strsignal (int sig);
+  extern const char *strsignal (int sig);
    return strsignal (signum);
  #elif NO_SYS_SIGLIST
    switch (signum)

I look forward to seeing the results of your experiment.

 >> If you must use a patched version of 0.12.0, then I'd consider 
incorporating
 >>  that patch into the official cygwin dist; also, in that  case,
 >> we could submit your patch upstream for incorporation into the  "real"
 >>  0.13.0...
 >>
 >
 > As the patch just removes the embedded glib, I think its of no use
 > to the "real" pkgconfig.

Yep, you're right.

 >> 3) cygextras: why not submit these as patches to the cygwin DLL?
 >
 > cygextras contains strptime and getdelim. I understand the strptime
 > is "coming soon" to cygwin anyway, so I'll just drop mine then.
 > getdelim came from the gnu C library. Again its just a distraction
 > from working on gnome, and I'll leave it to others to add it to
 > cygwin.

Understood.

 >> 4) berkeley db: folks have been asking for this for a long time.
 >
 > No. I don't have any free time to support cygwin packages, although
 > I do have great respect for those, such as yourself, who do. I
 > think that gnome no longer requires version 2.7.7, but has moved on
 >  to version 3.x.x. This patched version did actually pass its test
 > suite when I first did it, but I no longer have access to the
 > cygwin tcl port I used, so I cannot reproduce the result.

'Kay.  Looks like there's a volunteer on the case...

--Chuck


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 30 23:58:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 23:58:00 -0000
Subject: mkdll.sh
In-Reply-To: <3CCEBCAD.30904@ece.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: 

Chuck,

Excellent.  You know that your write-up won't be a wasted effort on me.  :)

I'll be looking at this next week.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Wilson [mailto:cwilson@ece.gatech.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 11:48 AM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygx
> Subject: Re: mkdll.sh
>
>
> Harold Hunt wrote:
>
>  > Chuck,
>  >
>  > Could you give a few more notes on "relibtoolize"?  A pointer to some
> good
>  > documentation would be helpful...
>
>
> Well, there's the goat book http://sources.redhat.com/autobook/ but it's
> a bit out of date, now...
>
> Here's the procedure I used to "relibtoolize" libiconv.  Libiconv is a
> worst-case example: they distribute their own fork of autoconf itself,
> they redistribute system m4 macros, ... they're just plain evil.  But,
> if you can understand *this*, then "relibtoolizing" anything else should
> be a piece of cake...
>
> Short version: remove autogenerated files.  Replace "standard" files
> with the newest versions (install-sh, mkinstalldirs, config.guess,
> config.sub) -- you can also just remove these and let the autotools copy
> in what they need (use the --force --c -a switches, or their analog: not
> every tool has exactly the same syntax).  Rerun the the autotools in the
> proper order (more later).
>
> #1) libiconv actually ships its OWN VERSION of autoconf.  This is dumb.
>
> rm autoconf/acgeneral.m4
> rm autoconf/acspecific.m4
> rm autoconf/aclocal.m4
> rm autoconf/autoconf
> rm autoconf/autoconf.m4
> rm autoconf/mbstate_t.m4
>
> #2) remove the "normal" distribution files that are created by autoconf.
>
> rm autoconf/install-sh
> rm autoconf/config.guess
> rm autoconf/config.sub
> rm configure
>
> #3) remove the obsolete libtool files (libtool no longer uses "ltmain.sh")
>
> rm autoconf/ltmain.sh
>
> #4) I don't like hiding the autofiles, so I removed the subdir and will
> change configure.in appropriately, but you don't have to do that.
>
> rmdir autoconf
>
> #5) libiconv doesn't use automake, but it does distribute some scripts
> from automake.  Replace them with the current versions.  (Actually,
> libiconv only distributed install-sh; it used the mkinstalldirs from the
> libcharset subdirectory, "proper" auto* usage requires that each
> separately configure project have its own copy...and of course, I put
> install-sh in the top directory, libiconv had it in the autoconf subdir)
>
> cp /usr/autotool/devel/share/automake/mkinstalldirs .
> cp /usr/autotool/devel/share/automake/install-sh .
>
> #6) repeat steps 1-4 for the libcharset subdirectory.  Normally, this is
> unnecessary, but libiconv actually treats libcharset as a separate
> project, with it's own configure script and suchlike...
>
> rm libcharset/autoconf/aclocal.m4
> rm libcharset/autoconf/mkinstalldirs
> rm libcharset/autoconf/install-sh
> rm libcharset/autoconf/config.guess
> rm libcharset/autoconf/config.sub
> rm libcharset/autoconf/ltmain.sh
> rm libcharset/configure
> rmdir libcharset/autoconf
>
> #7) libcharset also includes its own copies of some .m4 scripts that are
> part of gettext.  Use the system ones.
>
> rm libcharset/m4/codeset.m4
> rm libcharset/m4/glibc21.m4
>
> #8) AND we're going to use the system libtool...and cleanup.
>
> rm libcharset/m4/libtool.m4
> rm libcharset/m4/ChangeLog
> rmdir libcharset/m4
>
> #9) Similar to step #5, replace the "automake" files with the latest
> version (even though libcharset doesn't use automake...).  Both
> mkinstalldirs and install-sh WERE in the autoconf subdir of libcharset;
> I put them in the top level (of libcharset).  Each separately configured
> project needs its own copy...
>
> cp /usr/autotool/devel/share/automake/mkinstalldirs libcharset/
> cp /usr/autotool/devel/share/automake/install-sh libcharset/
>
> #10) As promised, I need to change a few items in configure.in (e.g.
> don't use the "autoconf" subdir (or libcharset/autoconf or
> libcharset/m4).  Also, since the "special" versions of the autoconf
> files that libiconv distributes were slightly modified -- okay, they
> were distributing a fork -- I parsed out the differences they had, and
> put those macros into acinclude.m4...
>
> The patch is attached.
>
> The patch also AC_PREREQ's 2.52 instead of 2.13 (I want to use the
> -devel tree), but that required a few other changes due to
> incompatibilities (AC_OUTPUT_SUBDIRS ---> AC_CONFIG_SUBDIRS, etc)
>
> Normally, you'd also re-run autoheader at some point, but that didn't
> work (thanks to the fact that libiconv uses a forked autoconf dist...)
> So I patched libcharset/config.h.in by hand...
>
> #11) Okay, here's the meat:  First, we relibtoolize libcharset:
>
> cd libcharset
> aclocal
> libtoolize -c -f
> aclocal # (again)
> autoconf
>
> cd 
> aclocal
> libtoolize -c -f
> aclocal # (again)
> autoconf
>
> Why the second aclocal step?  Because libtoolize adds additional stuff
> in configure.in, which require additional macros to be pulled into
> aclocal.m4.  Why not run libtoolize first, and then aclocal?  Because
> libtoolize needs a pre-existing aclocal.m4...
>
> Normally, you'd run "automake -a -c" between the second aclocal and
> autoconf, but libiconv doesn't use automake.  Also, you'd normally run
> autoheader after the second aclocal -- but we can't because
> libiconv sucks.
>
> Finally, you should be able to configure and make as "normal":
>
> conf() {
>    (cd ${objdir} && \
>    ${srcdir}/configure --build=${host} --target=${target} \
>    --srcdir=${srcdir} --prefix=${prefix} \
>    --exec-prefix=${prefix} --sysconfdir=${sysconfdir} \
>    --libdir=${prefix}/lib --includedir=${prefix}/include \
>    --enable-shared --enable-static )
> }
>
>
>  > Is the general idea here that I would just be working on the
> config files
>  > and makefiles, rather than having to make extensive internal changes
> to the
>  > way that libraries are loaded?
>
>
> Yes.
>
> --Chuck
>
>
> Harold Hunt wrote:
>
> > Chuck,
> >
> > Could you give a few more notes on "relibtoolize"?  A pointer
> to some good
> > documentation would be helpful...
> >
> > Is the general idea here that I would just be working on the
> config files
> > and makefiles, rather than having to make extensive internal
> changes to the
> > way that libraries are loaded?
> >
> > Harold
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> >>[mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Charles Wilson
> >>Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:48 AM
> >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> >>Cc: cygx
> >>Subject: Re: mkdll.sh
> >>
> >>
> >>You could probably do the following:
> >>
> >>get rid of mkdll.sh
> >>relibtoolize/autoconf using the "-devel" tools (e.g. make sure that
> >>configure.in has "AC_PREREQ(2.52)")
> >>
> >>./configure; make;
> >>
> >>It oughta work. 
> >>
> >>--chuck
> >>
> >>
> >>Harold Hunt wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Steve,
> >>>
> >>>I'm working on creating Cygwin setup.exe packages for Gnome...
> >>>
> >>I know, it's
> >>
> >>>buggy but I'd like to get a start.  One problem I'm having with
> >>>
> >>your patches
> >>
> >>>is that they use mkdll.sh but they don't cause configure to
> >>>
> >>copy the file to
> >>
> >>>a build directory.
> >>>
> >>>For example:
> >>>
> >>>tar xzf glib-1.2.10.tar.gz
> >>>cd glib-1.2.10
> >>>patch -p1 < ../glib-1.2.10-cygwin.patch
> >>>mkdir build
> >>>cd build
> >>>../configure
> >>>[yada yada yada]
> >>>make
> >>>[yada yada yada]
> >>>mkdir .libs
> >>>ar cru .libs/libglib.a  garray.o gcache.o gcompletion.o
> >>>
> >>gdataset.o gdate.o
> >>
> >>>gerro
> >>>r.o ghash.o ghook.o giochannel.o giounix.o glist.o gmain.o gmem.o
> >>>gmessages.o gm
> >>>utex.o gnode.o gprimes.o grel.o gscanner.o gslist.o gstrfuncs.o
> >>>
> >>gstring.o
> >>
> >>>gtimer
> >>>.o gtree.o gutils.o
> >>>ranlib .libs/libglib.a
> >>>creating libglib.la
> >>>(cd .libs && rm -f libglib.la && ln -s ../libglib.la libglib.la)
> >>>cd .libs && PREFIX=/usr sh ../mkdll.sh libglib.la
> >>>../mkdll.sh: Can't open ../mkdll.sh: No such file or directory
> >>>make[2]: *** [libglib.la] Error 2
> >>>make[2]: Leaving directory
> >>>`/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
> >>>10/.build'
> >>>make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> >>>make[1]: Leaving directory
> >>>`/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
> >>>10/.build'
> >>>make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Eventually I always reach a point where mkdll.sh can't be found because
> >>>configure didn't copy it to the out-of-the-tree build directory.
> >>>
> >>>Got any ideas on how to fix this?
> >>>
> >>>Harold
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>


From steve_obrien@hp.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: steve_obrien@hp.com (O'BRIEN,STEVE (HP-UnitedKingdom,ex1))
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xclients using tcp protocol
Message-ID: <72FAAE98015DD511B42600D0B747AC7F01471E2B@kipling.br.itc.hp.com>


I've just found the problem - its the firewall. If I disable the firewall,
then everything works fine from both local and remote hosts

> Hi
> Using Xfree86 4.2.0 with latest cygwin, I see the following problem whcih
> may relate to the xdmcp connection problems reported by several people
> recently, although I am not using xdmcp.
>
> I set up the DISPLAY variable:
> export DISPLAY=ntbox:0 
>
> I start the X server with:
> XWin -ac -noreset&
>
> then a test client with:
> xclock&
>
> the xclock appears as expected. Then I try a second client:
> xeyes
>
> This fails to appear, eventually timing out with a "could not connect"
> error.
> This behaviour is consistent, whether the clients are started on the same
> machine as the server, or on some remote linux box, for any clients
(xclock
> & xeyes are for example only). Note that, on the local NT box, if I use
> "DISPLAY=localhost:0" or "DISPLAY=:0" then there is no problem and the
> clients all start OK.
>
> It is as if the first tcp connection is accepted, but then the server
stops
> listening for further tcp requests. If that is the case, then it would
> explain exactly the "black screen" syndrome experienced by the xdmcp users
-
> the first client is probably an "xsetroot -solid black" which succeeds,
but
> then all further requests are rejected.
>
> Can anyone else reproduce this problem? Is it an error in my local X
> configuration, or is there anything else I can change to fix it?

Steven


From matthew.donald@motile.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: matthew.donald@motile.net (Matthew Donald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xwinclip authorisation problem with remote hosts using XDMCP
Message-ID: <000b01c19d2d$b90164d0$2102a8c0@motile.net>

Hi,

There is a problem when using xwinclip with an X server which connects to a
remote host using XDMCP.

Basically the sequence is this:

1.  Execute "XWin :0 -query some.host.system".  Initially, the authorisation
file contains no records, so the localhost
has access to the X server by default.  I quote from the Xserver man page:

    If this file contains  any  authorization  records,  the
    local  host  is  not  automatically  allowed access to the server, and
only clients
    which send one of the authorization records contained in the file in the
connection
    setup  information  will be allowed access.

2.  XDMCP is used to query some.host.system, which then opens a connection
to the local PC.  The first
thing done is that XDMCP adds an auth record for some.host.system  This
means that localhost loses access
to the X server.

3.  After XWin starts, xwinclip executes on the local host.  It fails with
the error message: "Could not open display"

Ok, so I added an xhost command, to explicitly allow access:

    xhost +127.0.0.1

I failed with the error messages:

    Xlib: connection to "127.0.0.1:0.0" refused by server
    Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server

I read some more about host access, and I created a /etc/X0.hosts file, and
I deleted the .Xauthority file.
This caused a different error.  XWin failed with the message: "X connection
to 127.0.0.1:3.0 broken
(explicit kill or server shutdown)."

I tried running XWin with the '-ac' command line parameter.  This is meant
to open access to all hosts.
Xwinclip still couldn't open the display.

If XWin is used with a local window manager, this xwinclip (and any other
client program which runs on the PC)
will run sucessfully.  However, if XDMCP is used to connect to another
system, then it fails.

I'm completely stuck.  Any help would be very appreciated.

regards Matthew




From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: (patch seq: 5151) config file support for cygwin port
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:

> The code looks fine to me, but, I don't want the patch committed until some
> effort is made to follow the formatting of the other files in hw/xwin.
> Also, I've got a few problems with the Imakefile changes, as well as with
> the InitOutput.c changes.

Do you have a "styleguide"? Or maybe just the indent settings?
 
> #
> # Coding style complaints - winkeybd.c, winconfig.c, winmsg.c
> #
[snip]

> I could count hundreds of instances of the above example in winconfig.c;
> however, there are whole blocks of your code that do put each '{}' on their
> own lines, so I'd just like to see the nonconforming lines fixed.

took that from hw/xfree86/common :)

> Function types are not always on the line above the function name, and the
> space between the function name and the opening '(' is missing.  (see
> winmsg.c).
> 
> Furthermore, I'd like you to run each file through Emacs, selecting all
> text, then run "C->Indent Line or Region"; this will get the parameter lists
> lined up correctly, etc.
> 

Ok, I think ident can fix this easily

> # Imakefile complaints
> 
> I don't think that your changes to programs/Xserver/Imakefile are correct.
> Platform-specific changes to the SUBDIRS list should be avoided at all
> costs.  Try to find some other way to add XWINPARSEDIR to the list of
> directories to be compiled.
 
I followed the example of the other platforms :)

> # InitOutput.c
> 
> You've got #define macro definitions on line 247 or so, when they should be
> up at the top of the file.
> 

I choosed to place it near the function, since it's only used there and
does imo belong to the function

bye
    ago
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From sage@wallst.ru  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: sage@wallst.ru (Sergey A. Galin)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: KDE 2 running problems
Message-ID: <996637614.20020317185241@wallst.ru>

Hello,

I  have  a  problem running KDE 2 under Cygwin 1.3.9 / XFree 4.2.0: it
says "The procedure entry point XShmAttach could not be located in the
dynamic link library libXext.dll". Really, there's no such entry point
in  that  DLL.  I've  tried to use DLL from XFree 4.1.0 but it doesn't
have  that  entry  point  either. Can anyone help? Is there version of
XFree  allowing  to run KDE 2? Is there version of KDE 2 which can run
in XFree 4.2?

--
Yours faithfully,
Sergey

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Homepage: http://sage.wallst.ru
ICQ: 110345832
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From sharminkabir@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: sharminkabir@hotmail.com (Sharmin Kabir)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X in cygwin problem
Message-ID: 

Hi,
To start X in cygwin, I do the command "sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh at 
the bash prompt all the time, otherwise I dont get X! Could you pl tell me 
where is the place to set up this path?

Thanks in advance


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From Darko.Palic@gmx.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Darko.Palic@gmx.de (Darko.Palic@gmx.de)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: XWin w2k xdmcp-query - no valid address
References: 
Message-ID: <24198.1012991344@www39.gmx.net>

Hi,

could you please reconfigure your Mailclient to use the international "Re:"
on reply instead the german "Antwort:". The mailfilter won??t work if you
break the mail thread.

Okay seems to be odd! Why does your eth0 and eth1 do not have any IP?
I do not have any more my TK card to test my connection.
Could you also post the "ipconfig /all"?

Could you deactivate the PGPnet device?

Have you the actual XWin binary from Harold Hunt?



> lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1
> eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0
> eth1: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0

> bDescr=PGPnet Virtual Identity Adapter

> bDescr=FE575 Ethernet Adapter

> bDescr=MADGE_TR_MINIPORT_DRIVER: MDGNDIS5 5.95.90

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From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X crashes without any error message
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020307094406.GC1112@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 01:39:26AM -0800, Sung-Ryul Kim wrote:
> I have installed the cygwin and xfree86 pgms on my Windows XP (a Korean 
> language version). All others work fine. I have even tested usinf other 
> commercial X servers and they work fine.
> 
> But if I try to run the XWin.exe, it crashes without a message. The X 
> server window appears for about a second, and then all is gone. Have anyone 
> experienced something like this? I have looked around in the list and 
> documentation but I cannot find any information.
> 
Sounds like you've not mounted your drives in binary mode, as the fonts
can't be read by the server and exits immediately.

I hope Chris Faylor is reading this, is there any chance of cygwin 
defaulting to binary mounts ? or is there some sinister reason for not
doing this ?

Alan.


From Michael.Anderson@centurytel.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Michael.Anderson@centurytel.com (Michael Anderson)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Xterm Lock up
Message-ID: 

I have attempted to look through the message archive with no luck, so
now I will post my problem.

We are currently using the following

Lastest Version of Cygwin/XFree
KDE 1.x
Windows 2000 Professional

We connect to both Linux and HP/UX boxes using either telnet or rlogin.

The problem that occurs is when doing an ls on a large directory or 
using less on a large file the xterm will lock up and never return.
This is the only problem we are experiencing but it has become a very 
annoying one. I hope there is a solution out there!


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
In-Reply-To: <20020306174227.RXWE780.tomts24-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209.226.175.20]>
References: <20020306174227.RXWE780.tomts24-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209.226.175.20]>
Message-ID: <20020306175752.GW1112@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

There is no ldconfig on Cygwin.

You set the PATH enviroment up to point to /usr/X11R6/bin

Alan.

On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 12:42:32PM -0500, egon.phillips@sympatico.ca wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to install cygwin/XFree86. I have run into trouble during the last 
> two steps of the installation procedure, contained in the following document.
> 
> Installation Details for XFree86[tm] 4.2.0
> The XFree86 Project, Inc
> 16 January 2002, Abstract
> (AKA INSTALL)
> 
> Development Environment
> Win 2K, cygwin 1.3.10, Visual C++ EE, Progres 7.2
> 
> Here is the output from the final two steps:
> .........
> 
> admin@BigRed@GOONMUNSTER /home/TEMP
> $ /sbin/ldconfig /usr/X11R6/lib # For Linux
> bash: /sbin/ldconfig: No such file or directory
> 
> admin@BigRed /home/TEMP
> $ /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/X11R6/lib # For FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD
> bash: /sbin/ldconfig: No such file or directory
> 
> 
> Can someone tell us how to solve this problem without compiling any code?
> 
> Is the ldconfig utility somewhere in the cygwin distribution? If not where can 
> we get a binary?
> 
> 
> Thanx Egon.


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Create icons and project logo
Message-ID: 

I've posted the attached graphic online for review by the Cygwin/XFree86
project:
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/logo-ideas/mclean-20020221-0940.png


Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: Tucker McLean [mailto:tucker@noodleroni.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:39 PM
To: Harold Hunt
Subject: Re: Create icons and project logo


Here's my idea for a logo, tell me what you think.

Tucker

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From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: problem with using xsetroot without window manager 
Message-ID: <008e01c19a72$6537ceb0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>

Hi,

I'm using the latest Xserver Test Release and have recognized a problem, when starting some
apps without any window manager.

For starting kde/kde2 I'm using setxroot to choose another background at the start of the
launching process, which needs some time. At this time no window manager is running. With
this configuration the color isn't set, but the xserver seems to be restarted. (The window
seems to be closed for a little while and comes back)
After startung twm, kwm or kwin color setting works.
The same effect occurs, when I'm starting for example xdpyinfo without any window manager.
When the end of the listing is reached the server "restarts".

Any ideas ?

Regards
Ralf


From roger_maillist@alltel.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: roger_maillist@alltel.net (Roger)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1015974825.22601.5.camel@localhost2.localdomain>


> The format of a symlink in a tar archive is exactly defined. So if you 
> tar up a cygwin symlink, you can get two results:
> 
> - using cygwin) The file in the archive is a symlink
> - using linux or windows) The file in the archive is a textfile with the 
> symlink as text
> 
> For extracting a symlink, there are 3 versions
> 
> - using cygwin) The file is a cygwin symlink
> - using linux) The file is a symlink or not created as fat does not allow
> symlinks
> - using windows) The file is just a copy of the first file
>     

so the rule is, whenever performing system file restoration and backup,
use cygwin explicitly. ...(?)

thanx. eh. now i have to scuttle along with my tail between my legs and
do a reinstall of cygwin. :-)

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From philippe.bastiani@wanadoo.fr  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: philippe.bastiani@wanadoo.fr (Philippe Bastiani)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: BUG: startup & keyboard
Message-ID: <001701c1cf11$1938c8b0$2cb0f8c1@JUPITER>

setup.exe: version 2.125.2.10
WinXP

Sometimes the '.Xmodmap' file is not loaded on startup :(

Philippe Bastiani



From listenmann@elrond.lohmann-services.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: listenmann@elrond.lohmann-services.de (Peter Lohmann)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: The old 104 problem?
Message-ID: <20020215120128.GB16695@elrond.lohmann-services.de>

Hi folks!

I seem to encounter the (known) 104-error, but the solution mentioned
in the FAQ (upgrading to a newer XWin.exe version) does not work.
I tried v.53, 52, and 49, but I get the same error anyways:

nicole@NICOLE ~
$ /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh
XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server
"127.0.0.1:0.0"
      after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server
"127.0.0.1:0.0"
      after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.

nicole@NICOLE ~
$

I'm using v. 4.2.0 of Xfree86... and cygwin1.dll version 1003.9.0.0

Any hints on this?

Bye

Peter


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)
Message-ID: 

Throw a browser at:
        http://flognat.myip.org/xbase 
                (ehm cable-modem, so it is not that fast, would
        apreciate if someone with faster connection could mirror it ;-))

xbase, one package with all the required files.. 

There are couple of small quirks, but I thought you should throw an
eye on it before I fixed those.. ;-) at least it fires up when I start
startxwin.bat.

A couple of setup questions...  

* Is it ok to ask the user questions and so on in the postinstall
  script??

* there are some questions in the xinstall script about manually
  adding stuff to the termcap database, asks if it should replace some
  files.. do we need to do anything there?

Some of the files are read-only, meaning that overwriting them can't
be done, don't know if it is anything to worry about? (It was just me
who had problems continuing a aborted installation)

I am just mainly exercising :-) Feeling around with the setup and so
on, assuming that I would do the version where we took all the
tgz-files and made setup.hints for them all, where in the hierarchy
should they be put??

cygwin/contrib/xfree/Xbin/setup.hint
                     Xbin/Xbin.tgz   
                     Xetc/setup.hint
                     Xetc/Xetc.tgz
or  

cygwin/contrib/Xbin/setup.hint
               Xbin/Xbin.tgz   
               Xetc/setup.hint
               Xetc/Xetc.tgz

When planning for this, I have the thought of basically,
startup-scripts requires Xbin.tgz Xdoc.tgz Xetc.tgz Xfenc.tgz Xfnts.tgz Xlib.tgz Xman.tgz 
Xxserv.tgz.. these require startup-scripts (hmm maybe rename to xstartupscripts?)

the other packages like Xf100, Xfscl, Xnext.. requires
startup-scripts.. 

        /Andy

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From Matthew.Codd@sita.int  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Matthew.Codd@sita.int (Matthew.Codd@sita.int)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Problem with Solaris
Message-ID: 

I've tried this and it's solved my problem too.

Thanks David

Matthew




                                                                                                                         
                      "Dawson, David W"                                                                                  
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                      Sent by:                  Subject:  RE: Problem with Solaris                                       
                      cygwin-xfree-owner                                                                                 
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>*My* problem in this situation turned out to be that the XDMCP session
from
>Solaris needed Solaris fonts which are not available by default on
>Cygwin/XFree86.
>
>I solved my problem by having my XWin use the font server on the Solaris
>box:
>            XWin -from "$MyPC" -query "$SolarisBox" -fp
tcp/$SolarisBox:7100 &
>
>Alternatively, there are publicly-available font conversion programs which
>would allow you to convert the Solaris fonts into Cygwin/XFree86 fonts and
>install them on your PC.  This is not nearly as easy as using a font
server,
>however.
>
>            -D.
>---------------------
>David Dawson
>david.w.dawson@lmco.com.
>703-367-3885

<---- Snip ---->






From VenkateshB@mascotsystems.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: VenkateshB@mascotsystems.com (Venkatesh Ballani)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Porting Xfree 86 to  Windows 2000
Message-ID: <5575473D4532D411BE4C009027E8C83806E23D38@MASBLREXC02>

Hi,
	I would like to port Xfree86 into window2000. Xfree*6 mean only i
want port XServer and Xlin package into windows.
Please send some info on this

waiting for early reply

Thanks & regards
Ba



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From mbardiaux@peaktime.be  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: mbardiaux@peaktime.be (Michel Bardiaux)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: This mailing list
References: 
Message-ID: <3C6A2F1E.8FB1C87B@peaktime.be>

Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz wrote:
> 
> Sorry about that:-(
> 
> Is it possible to set Reply-To: field to list address?
> 
Good idea. And when reconfiguring the list server, it would be nice to
have Subjects prefixed with [CYGWIN-XFREE]. I know that is not so easy,
because the list server must ensure the prefix is not 'stuttered'. But
whan you are subscribed to say 6 lists, even one like cygwin-xfree that
does not show the origin of messages, makes management of one's inbox
rather hard. If there were two... .

Greetings,
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From G.Schulz@MIDATA.DE  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: G.Schulz@MIDATA.DE (Schulz Georges)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP
Message-ID: 

I have installed cygwin-xfree on SuSE 7.0 and it works fine.
But I can not get it to work with SuSE 7.3. I compared all
the adjustments that I made on 7.0 and I keep getting time 
out errors. Also I can telnet and ftp to the 7.3. Can someone
help me.

Roger Gardner
r.gardner@midata.de
Telefon:06145-506 590


From nigel_phillips@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nigel_phillips@hotmail.com (Egon Phillips)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
Message-ID: 

Yes, that's a good idea, but I tried it and it doesn't work.  I also 
upgraded to zonealarm 3.0, and so far that hasn't worked either.  I sent 
email to zonelabs, the  zonealarm and awaiting a reply.  Surely, someone 
must have managed to get Xfree86 working with zonealarm installed?  Anyone?  
Anyone?


>From: Andrew Markebo 
>To: egon.phillips@sympatico.ca, nigel_phillips@hotmail.com
>CC: huntharo@msu.edu, cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>Subject: Re: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
>Date: 07 Mar 2002 17:31:23 +0100
>
>hmm just a thought, if you can config zonealarm to allow traffic on
>port 6000 and/or 6001 it might be possible to get them working
>together?  or?
>
>check the zonealarm logs and see what zonealarm blocks and if you can
>tell it to allow the X-traffic.
>
>or does zonealarm do more to the network interface??
>
>         /Andy
>
>
>/ "Egon Phillips"  wrote:
>| >Why are you telling me this?
>| Because you answered my earlier query.
>|
>| >  I really don't care... you need to send all
>| >Cygwin/XFree86 related mails to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list.
>| >  I will reply to such mailings if I believe I can contribute.
>| >
>| >Having said that... ZoneAlarm is the problem and it must be removed (if 
>I
>| >remember correctly).  If you don't believe me then follow these steps:
>| >
>| >1) Admit that ZoneAlarm is the problem.
>| >
>| >2) Remove ZoneAlarm software from your system.
>| >
>| >3) In the event that step (1) fails, see step (1).
>| >
>| I guess you don't like zonealarm? ;-) Ok, Ok, I'll contact zonelabs
>| and see if they have a work around.  If not I'll get rid of it.
>| Pitty, we run TPF at the router, and zonealarm on our client computers.
>|
>| THANX
>|
>| >Harold
>| >
>| > > -----Original Message-----
>| > > From: Egon Phillips [mailto:nigel_phillips@hotmail.com]
>| > > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 12:46 AM
>| > > To: huntharo@msu.edu
>| > > Subject: RE: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
>| > >
>| > >
>| > > Thanx Harold,
>| > >
>| > > It is installed but won't run.  Apparently there is a problem
>| > > with Zonalarm.
>| > >   I was unable to find a solution in the archives.  That is
>| > > without deleting
>| > > zonealarm from my system.
>| > >
>| > > Which ports are used during the startup, shutdown and maintenance of
>| > > cygwin-Xfree86?  Maybe if I open the associated ports xfree86
>| > > will startup?
>| > >
>| > > Here is my output from the startx command:
>| > >
>| > > $ startx
>| > >
>| > > giving up.
>| > > xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X 
>server
>| > > xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
>| > >
>| > >
>| > > >From: "Harold Hunt" 
>| > > >To: 
>| > > >Subject: RE: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
>| > > >Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:38:02 -0500
>| > > >
>| > > >You need to be following the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide
>| > instructions for
>| > > >installation... not the XFree86 general instructions.  The
>| > Cygwin/XFree86
>| > > >User's Guide is located at:
>| > > >
>| > > >http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/
>| > > >
>| > > >Harold
>| > > >
>
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From wilvil@rogers.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: wilvil@rogers.com (Wilfred Villegas)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xterm problems
Message-ID: <002901c1a6a9$5eb3a580$e04d9d18@wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com>

I just recently installed the newest xfree86 (4.2.0).  I have cygwin
installed on a Windows 98 machine.  I have two problems:

1) The startx script doesn't seem to work for me.  Whenever I try to run it,
it says
    xinit: not found
Why doesn't this work?

2) Even though startx doesn't work, startxwin.sh works, and that's what I
use now.  But when I'm in xterm, and open one of the man pages, I get this
message:
WARNING: terminal is not fully functional
- (press RETURN)

When I press return, the man pages open, but there's no color or bolding,
and the page up and page down keys don't work.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.


From rouilj@cs.umb.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rouilj@cs.umb.edu (John P. Rouillard)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Using XRunner with cygwin-xfree XFree86 - 4.1.99.1
Message-ID: <200201190045.TAA01381@cs.umb.edu>


Hello all:

I hope somebody has some ideas about this because it is driving me
batty.  We are using XRunner to automate testing of some of our
apps. Using XFree-86 version 4 on linux with the RECORD and XTEST
extentions works fine. I am able to map the gui and identify the
items, send mouse presses and keystrokes.

However using the cygwin version fails. I can't map the gui and find
the widgets in the tree. So XRunner kind of throws up its hands.
What is funny is that XRunner usually reportswhen the needed extentions
aren't present. So my guess is that the extentions are present but
not operating properly somehow.

I have compared the /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy files, the server
startup command arguments. I have looked for issues with XRunner on
the web. I have also looked at docs on the record and xtest extentions
to see if I get any bright ideas.

Does anybody have any programs working that use the XTEST and RECORD
extentions of XFree86-cygwin?

Here is my xdpyinfo in case anybody is interested.

name of display:    :0.0
version number:    11.0
vendor string:    The XFree86 Project, Inc
vendor release number:    40199001
XFree86 version: 4.1.99.1
maximum request size:  4194300 bytes
motion buffer size:  256
bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    32, LSBFirst, 32
image byte order:    LSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats:    7
supported pixmap formats:
    depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
    depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
    depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
    depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
    depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
    depth 24, bits_per_pixel 24, scanline_pad 32
    depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
keycode range:    minimum 8, maximum 255
focus:  PointerRoot
number of extensions:    20
    BIG-REQUESTS
    DOUBLE-BUFFER
    Extended-Visual-Information
    FontCache
    GLX
    LBX
    MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
    RECORD
    RENDER
    SECURITY
    SGI-GLX
    SHAPE
    SYNC
    TOG-CUP
    XC-APPGROUP
    XC-MISC
    XFree86-Bigfont
    XKEYBOARD
    XTEST
    XVideo
default screen number:    0
number of screens:    1

screen #0:
  dimensions:    1018x742 pixels (345x251 millimeters)
  resolution:    75x75 dots per inch
  depths (7):    16, 1, 4, 8, 15, 24, 32
  root window id:    0x2e
  depth of root window:    16 planes
  number of colormaps:    minimum 1, maximum 1
  default colormap:    0x20
  default number of colormap cells:    64
  preallocated pixels:    black 0, white 65535
  options:    backing-store NO, save-unders NO
  largest cursor:    1018x742
  current input event mask:    0xd0001d
    KeyPressMask             ButtonPressMask          ButtonReleaseMask        
    EnterWindowMask          SubstructureRedirectMask PropertyChangeMask       
    ColormapChangeMask       
  number of visuals:    2
  default visual id:  0x22
  visual:
    visual id:    0x22
    class:    TrueColor
    depth:    16 planes
    available colormap entries:    64 per subfield
    red, green, blue masks:    0xf800, 0x7e0, 0x1f
    significant bits in color specification:    6 bits
  visual:
    visual id:    0x23
    class:    TrueColor
    depth:    16 planes
    available colormap entries:    64 per subfield
    red, green, blue masks:    0xf800, 0x7e0, 0x1f
    significant bits in color specification:    6 bits

				-- rouilj
John Rouillard
===============================================================================
My employers don't acknowledge my existence much less my opinions.


From michael_bourgon@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: michael_bourgon@yahoo.com (Michael Bourgon)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Has anyone compiled Rox successfully?
In-Reply-To: <1014227285.2574.17.camel@localhost2.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20020220180854.69549.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com>

I did that, and it worked.

Thanks.  
Michael

> > find.c:32: fnmatch.h: No such file or directory

> yup.  a missing header file.
> 
> > I've found a copy of fnmatch.h in my gtk+ tarball,
> and
> > have tried putting it in the /src directory, the
> 
> make sure you have that dir included as to where to
> look for include
> files within your gcc/g++ compile line. something
> like -I./ or -I./src
> or even better, specify the true location such as
> -I/usr/src/rox-{%version}/src


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X browser
In-Reply-To: <20020125154041.A5152@nimbus.dmillard.com>
Message-ID: 

Phil,

There isn't much interest around here in getting compilcated browser
software to work with Cygwin/XFree86, as you can just as easily use IE,
Mozilla, Netscape, or whatever you choose directly in Windows, rather than
through the multiple layers of Cygwin/XFree86.

So, if you want to use an X web browser under Cygwin/XFree86, you'd better
be ready for the enjoyment of getting such a web browser to work.  :)

Note: The kde-on-cygwin project may have Konqueror working.

http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/

Hope that helps,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Phil Humpherys
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:41 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: X browser
>
>
> I'd sure like to get an X browser running in xfree.  I don't seem to be
> able to get netscape or mozilla to work in cygwin-xfree.
>
> Any suggestion?  Thanks in advance.
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: (patch seq: 5151) config file support for cygwin port
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Alexander,

> I've little time at the moment. So I'll not fix these small style errors
> and submit the patch again but will add new features and submit a 
> new patch
> later with the style fixed and other topics (mouse, maybe layout) 
> complete.

No rush.  Whenever you have time is fine.

Harold


From philburk@softsynth.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: philburk@softsynth.com (Phil Burk)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: missing telnet, solution
Message-ID: <002401c1d1c1$6c49e540$640aa8c0@topdog>

I followed all the steps to install Cygwin/XFree from the user guide.
Everything worked great until I got to the part about telnet. It was missing
from my installation. I spent about two hours looking over the Cygwin site
trying to figure out how to get and install telnet. I noticed in this forum
that other folks had the same problem but no working solution was offered.

I finally figured it out. Here's how:

- re-run the SETUP.EXE program that you used to install Cygwin,

- select "Install from Internet" option,

- select same install directory as before,

- choose a download site as before,

- when you get a list of packages, click the '+' next to the "Net" category,

- select the "inetutils" package and the "openssh" package,

- continue downloading.

Your installation will be updated with those new packages.

Perhaps the Cygwin/XFree86 User Guide could be modified to make sure telnet
and ssh get included in the installation the first time. It currently tells
people to leave the default settings alone but the default does not include
telnet.

Phil Burk







From fmz@physics.rutgers.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: fmz@physics.rutgers.edu (Frank Zimmermann)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: problem with cygwin-xfree
Message-ID: <006e01c1bb75$46f4f170$5fc9e6a5@SILICON>

Hi, I installed cygwin-xfree86 on my PC running Windows XP, following the online instructions step-by-step. I can run it, but can't use telnet or ssh (telnet.exe and ssh.exe cannot be found anywhere, and the /usr/bin directory is missing). I already tried reinstalling it, unsuccessfully. What could be going wrong? 

Frank Zimmermann

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From VenkateshB@mascotsystems.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: VenkateshB@mascotsystems.com (Venkatesh Ballani)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: HI,
Message-ID: <5575473D4532D411BE4C009027E8C83806EA22C6@MASBLREXC02>

Hi,
	I would like to build only Xserver in Xfree86. how to do? any there
any cut down source code for Xfree86 4.0.3.
Please let me know

Thanks & regards
Ballani



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From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Wanted: MS-Windows Icon file with "X" icon...
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683240@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>

make your own using any graphics software.  Or search internet for an X
icon.

Suhaib

> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Tetazoo [mailto:j_tetazoo@hotmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:09 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Wanted: MS-Windows Icon file with "X" icon...
> 
> 
> Anyone know where I can get an MS-Windows icon file with the 
> "X" icon?  I 
> have a shortcut on my Win2k desktop that I use to launch 
> XWin, and I want to 
> set the icon to something appropriate.
> 
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at 
> http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
> 


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XWin terminates immediately under W2K
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20020205172813.024b26c0@pop>
Message-ID: 

> Is there any log file I can look at? Or maybe there's a debug version of
> XWin that I can try without having to recompile it myself...

Just look at /tmp/XWin.log, and send the contents of the file to the mailing
list.

Harold


From machicaoeduardo@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: machicaoeduardo@yahoo.com (Eduardo Machicao)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Help: OpenDx-Cygwin-Xfree86
In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831E9@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: <20020103150506.37260.qmail@web20405.mail.yahoo.com>

Dear list,

I have followed the next steps to complete my
Cygwin-XFree86-OpenDx installation:

1. I downloaded and installed tsch 6.11.00-3 and
renamed tsch.exe to sch.exe.

2. Then I installed xpm-nox 4.1.0-1 (initially the
file CYGXPM-X4.DLL was not found).

Now, when I type dx at the $ prompt, I can see the
main menu of OpenDx. But when I try to open any
example file, the next message appears at the $
prompt:
---------------------------------------------------
$ dx
_dxl_ReadPortNumber: Bad file number
timeout waiting for response from DX
Internal error detected at "MacroDefinition.C":631.
No files needed to be saved.
---------------------------------------------------

And a window message:
---------------------------------------------------
"Unable to connect to dxexec"
---------------------------------------------------



Any suggestion would be appreciated,


Eduardo Machicao




--- Suhaib Siddiqi  wrote:
> If I remember correctly, "not found" can be for two
> reasons:
> 
> 1) you may have a text mounted cygwin disk or your
> dxworker script may be in
> DOS format.
> 
> 2) you also need to install tcsh for cygwin else
> edit dxworker script
> 
> Suhaib
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eduardo Machicao
> [mailto:machicaoeduardo@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 12:53 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Help: OpenDx-Cygwin-Xfree86
> > 
> > I am trying to install OpenDx for Cygwin-Xfree86
> under
> > Windows 98. All was according to the instructions
> > given in http://cygwin.com. I used the file called
> > "setup.exe" for Cygwin. For OpenDx, I used
> > "opendx-4.1.3-2-WIN32-setup.zip".
> > I start the X server using "sh
> > /usr/X11r6/bin/startxwin.sh".
> > Typing "dx" at the $ prompt the next message
> appears:
> > 
> > "exec: /usr/local/dx/bin/dxworker: not found"
> > 
> > And calling the *.bat files Buider, Editor, Menu,
> > Prompter, Tutor appears:
> > 
> > "CYGWIN1.DLL: Not Found"
> > 
> > (But I can see "dxworker" and "cygwin.dll" in
> > "c:\cygwin\usr\local\dx\bin\" and "c:\cygwin\bin\"
> > respectively).
> > 
> > The output for the "mount" command at the $ prompt
> is:
> > 
> > $ mount
> > C:\cygwin\bin on /usr/bin type user (binmode)
> > C:\cygwin\lib on /usr/lib type user (binmode)
> > C:\cygwin on / type user (binmode)
> > c: on /cygdrive/c type user (binmode,noumount)
> > d: on /cygdrive/d type user (binmode,noumount)
> > 
> > And my "cygwin.bat" file is:
> > 
> > @echo on
> > C:
> > chdir \cygwin\bin
> > SET oldpath=%path%
> > SET
> >
>
PATH=C:\cygwin\bin;C:\cygwin\usr\X11r6\bin;C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin;%ol
> > dpath%PATH
> > bash --login -i
> > 
> > I know similar questions were posted here before.
> > 
> > Thanks for any help,
> > 
> > Eduardo Machicao Valencia
> > 
> > 
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Darryl,

Probably a problem with your network configuration.  I had problems like
that when DHCP and WINS were not configured properly.  Check your
hubs/switches for activity levels (lots of activity when no one is using the
network is a good sign that WINS is chattering aimlessly and wasting
bandwidth).

Oh, what kind of network do you have?  Are you connecting over a cable modem
or are you using a local area network?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Darryl Wagoner
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 4:17 PM
> To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> Yep change the port to 177 start to show packets moving back and forth.
> At some point a login screen came up.  I repeated and got the login
> screen fairly quickly.  Try again and it has been waiting for about
> 10 mins and still no screen.  I can see packets, but that is about it?
>
> Any ideas?
>
> --
> Darryl Wagoner - WA1GON
>
> Your phone line can be the life line for the unemployed. Sign up
> today at:
> http://www.proud-americans.org/
>
> *** Please pass the word to at least three others. ***
>
> "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing."  - Edmund Burke [1729-1797]
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt
> > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:25 PM
> > To: Darryl Wagoner; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: RE: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
> >
> >
> > Darryl,
> >
> > According to the Linux XMDCP HOWTO
> > (http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/gdm.html), the port number is
> > 177, not 117.
> >
> > I don't know what else to tell you.  Try using kdm instead.
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Darryl Wagoner
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:03 PM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
> > >
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > I think I have followed all the directions, but all I get is a
> > > blank X screen with a pointer cursors.
> > >
> > > The request doesn't seem to be getting to the Linux system.
> > >
> > > I did a "tcpdump port 117" and I don't see any packets at all going
> > > to Linux.
> > >
> > > In the docs it says to change gdm.conf
> > >
> > > [xdmcp]
> > > Enable=1
> > >
> > > but all the other options have the Boolean true so I followed suit.
> > >
> > > [xdmcp]
> > > Enable=true
> > >
> > > I did do a netstat to make sure xdm was listening on the correct port.
> > >
> > > Is it possible that Xwin.exe is sending to a different port?
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > --
> > > Darryl Wagoner - WA1GON
> > >
> > > Your phone line can be the life line for the unemployed. Sign up
> > > today at:
> > > http://www.proud-americans.org/
> > >
> > > *** Please pass the word to at least three others. ***
> > >
> > > "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing."  - Edmund Burke [1729-1797]
> > >
> > >


From matthew.donald@motile.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: matthew.donald@motile.net (Matthew Donald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xwinclip authorisation problem with remote hosts using XDMCP
References: 
Message-ID: <022301c19dba$917534e0$2102a8c0@motile.net>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Gottwald" 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: xwinclip authorisation problem with remote hosts using XDMCP


> This is wrong. 127.0.0.1 is the ip adress for localhost. On every
computer,
> 127.0.0.1 points to itself. Say you have a windows host with ip
192.168.26.201
> and a unix host with ip 192.168.26.202, they can only communicate with
these
> ip adresses. Connecting 127.0.0.1 from the windows host will connect to
the
> windows host and connecting 127.0.0.1 from the unix host will connect to
the
> unix host.
>
> The correct way is to run xhost windows.host.ip and xwinclip -display
> windows.host.ip:0

I use 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost or windows.host.ip because I can't
guarentee that
these names will be defined.  While I agree that 127.0.0.1 is inelegant, it
has the advantage
that it will always work even if the PC is configured with a broken host
file and DNS is
not configured.

Running 'xhost +127.0.0.1' (or 'xhost +localhost') results in an X access
error, as I
explained previously

>
> >
> > to 127.0.0.1:3.0 broken
>
> Why are you connecting to display 3? this should be 127.0.0.1:0

Sorry, the ':3' was a typo.

regards Matthew.



From slod@isd.dp.ua  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: slod@isd.dp.ua (Sergei Lodyagin)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfs under Win2k
References: 
Message-ID: <3C8C7BF2.5020907@isd.dp.ua>

I have no problems with starting up xfs and my /etc/X11/fs/config is OK.
I have problems with accessing this server from the X server. It seams
like it has
predefined font path and I don't known how to change it.

In Linux I can write the line in my /etc/X11/XF86Config:

"unix/:7100"

to use the xfs.

My question is: how I can do it under Win2k?

Alexander Gottwald wrote:

 >XftConfig? afair this was introduced after xfree 4.2.0 release.
 >Before and in xfree 4.2.0 the config file is /etc/X11/fs/config
 >or /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fs/config
 >
 >bye
 >	ago
 >




From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Blackbox ?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020307160547.GE10147@redhat.com>

On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 03:34:05PM +0100, Rick Oosterling wrote:
>Anybody know where to download this windowsmanager ?
>
>The original site is up but the download links are down :-(
>
>Thanks

Wrong mailing list.

cgf


From spetreolle@yahoo.fr  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X browser
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020126151715.84275.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Harold and all,

You're right, 
Konqueror is working under KDE.


> Note: The kde-on-cygwin project may have Konqueror
> working.
> 
> http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Hope that helps,
> 
> Harold




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From fftdsp@yahoo.com.cn  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: fftdsp@yahoo.com.cn (=?gb2312?q?=C0=C9=20=CF=CC=B5=C0?=)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: to subaib siddiqi
Message-ID: <20020105025525.77836.qmail@web15003.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>

the output message
ddxProcessArgument ()
ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 5 i: 1
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported
engines 0000001f
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows
display depth of 32 bits per pix
el
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w
1018 h 708 r 1018 l 0 b 708
t 0
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 4072
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00
000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to
fbCreateDefColormap ()
and it told me that:
xterm.exe ????twm.exe????xsetrot.exe can not find
libx11.dll



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From mbardiaux@peaktime.be  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: mbardiaux@peaktime.be (Michel Bardiaux)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: This mailing list
References: 
Message-ID: <3C6A6559.22445A38@peaktime.be>

Alexander Gottwald wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Michel Bardiaux wrote:
> 
> > Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry about that:-(
> > >
> > > Is it possible to set Reply-To: field to list address?
> > >
> > Good idea. And when reconfiguring the list server, it would be nice to
> > have Subjects prefixed with [CYGWIN-XFREE]. I know that is not so easy,
> > because the list server must ensure the prefix is not 'stuttered'. But
> > whan you are subscribed to say 6 lists, even one like cygwin-xfree that
> > does not show the origin of messages, makes management of one's inbox
> > rather hard. If there were two... .
> 
> These two topics have already been discussed. And we agreed to leave the
> settings as they are now.
> 
> bye
>     ago

Roger wilco.

Greetings,
-- 
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Tel : +32 10 65.44.15  Fax : +32 10 65.44.10


From wilvil@rogers.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: wilvil@rogers.com (Wilfred Villegas)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xterm problems
References: 
Message-ID: <002901c1a6b1$560561a0$e04d9d18@wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com>

I set the TERM variable to vt100 and it works.  But it gets changed to vt102
everytime i restart cygwin.  Where am I supposed to change it so it's
permanent?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tzafrir Cohen" 
To: "Wilfred Villegas" 
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: xterm problems


> On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Wilfred Villegas wrote:
>
> > I just recently installed the newest xfree86 (4.2.0).I have cygwin
> > installed on a Windows 98 machine.I have two problems:
>
> > 2) Even though startx doesn't work, startxwin.sh works, and that's what
I
> > use now.But when I'm in xterm, and open one of the man pages, I get this
> > message:
> > WARNING: terminal is not fully functional
> > - (press RETURN)
>
> This is related to the terminal definitions.
>
> Immediate workaround:
>
> run:
>
>   TERM=vt100
>
> (or 'set term=vt100' on tcsh)
>
> Gives you almost all of what you need, and is defined just about anywhere.
>
> What is your current value of TERM? ('echo $TERM')
>
> BTW:
> The terminfo definition file of xterm is /usr/share/termonfo/x/xterm
>
> --
> Tzafrir Cohen
> mailto:tzafrir@technion.ac.il
> http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir
>
>
>


From "gala"@zoran.co.il  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: "gala"@zoran.co.il (Gal Aviel)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Win98 Error - "Could not create primary surface"
Message-ID: <200202071130.NAA08205@zoran.co.il>

hi All!

I'm trying to install xfree 4.0.2 on Win98/cygwin.

When I run the startxwin.bat (or .sh, same result),
A window appears for about 1 sec, then disappears.

I get errors like "unable to open dispaly 127.0.0.1:0.0"
etc.

A more specific error message is given in
the xwin.log file (attached). Also, the cygwin.out file
(result of running 'cygcheck -s -v -r > cygcheck.out').
is attached.

I could not find anything similar in the mailing list
archieve.

I would greatly appreciate any help as
I have no clue (althoug I am a relatively
experienced linux user ...)


TIA

Gal.
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ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 5 i: 1
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000017
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per pixel
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 715 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 715 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 800 h 600 r 800 l 0 b 600 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - Could not create primary surface: 8876024e
winFinishScreenInitFB () - Could not allocate framebuffer
winScreenInit () - winFinishScreenInit () failed

Fatal server error:
Couldn't add screen 0
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Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics
Current System Time: Thu Feb 07 11:10:00 2002

Windows 98 SE Ver 4.10 Build 2222 

Path:	C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin
	C:\cygwin\bin
	C:\cygwin\bin
	c:\PERL\BIN
	c:\WINDOWS
	c:\WINDOWS\COMMAND
	c:\EXEMPLAR\ALTERA\BIN\WIN32

SysDir: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
WinDir: C:\WINDOWS

HOME = `C:\cygwin\bin\herbert\herbert'
MAKE_MODE = `unix'
PWD = `/usr/bin/herbert'
USER = `herbert'

CMDLINE = `bash --login -i'
COMSPEC = `C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND.COM'
GHS_LMHOST = `@zmlnt01'
OLDPWD = `/usr/bin'
PROMPT = `$p$g'
PS1 = `\[\033]0;\w\007
\033[32m\]\u@\h \[\033[33m\w\033[0m\]
$ '
SHLVL = `1'
TEMP = `c:\WINDOWS\TEMP'
TERM = `cygwin'
TMP = `c:\WINDOWS\TEMP'
WINBOOTDIR = `C:\WINDOWS'
WINDIR = `C:\WINDOWS'
_ = `/usr/bin/cygcheck'

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
  (default) = `/cygdrive'
  cygdrive flags = 0x00000022
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Cygnus Solutions
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/
  (default) = `C:/cygwin'
  flags = 0x0000000a
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/bin
  (default) = `C:/cygwin/bin'
  flags = 0x0000000a
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/lib
  (default) = `C:/cygwin/lib'
  flags = 0x0000000a
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options

a:  fd           N/A    N/A                    
c:  hd  FAT32   8016Mb  32% CP    UN           
d:  cd           N/A    N/A                    
s:  net NTFS   31001Mb  64% CP CS UN PA FC     
u:  net Samba     16Mb  46% CP    UN           raid

.              /cygdrive  user    binmode,noumount
C:/cygwin      /          system  binmode
C:/cygwin/bin  /usr/bin   system  binmode
C:/cygwin/lib  /usr/lib   system  binmode

Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe
Not Found: cpp (good!)
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe
Found: c:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\find.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe hides c:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\find.exe
Not Found: gcc
Not Found: gdb
Not Found: ld
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe
Not Found: make
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe

   18k 2000/10/23 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cyggdbm.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/10/23 4:26
   45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygform5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 7:28
   26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygmenu5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 7:27
  156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygncurses++5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 7:29
  226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygncurses5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 7:17
   15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygpanel5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 7:27
   35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygform6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 8:03
   20k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygmenu6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 8:03
  175k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygncurses++6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 8:03
  202k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygncurses6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 8:03
   12k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygpanel6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 8:03
   17k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cyghistory4.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/7 6:34
  108k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygreadline4.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/7 6:34
   20k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cyghistory5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/13 3:27
  121k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygreadline5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/13 3:27
   50k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygz.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 21:41
  751k 2002/01/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
                  "cygwin1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/21 19:48
    Cygwin DLL version info:
        DLL version: 1.3.9
        DLL epoch: 19
        DLL bad signal mask: 19005
        DLL old termios: 5
        DLL malloc env: 28
        API major: 0
        API minor: 51
        Shared data: 3
        DLL identifier: cygwin1
        Mount registry: 2
        Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions
        Cygwin registry name: Cygwin
        Program options name: Program Options
        Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2
        Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags
        Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix
        Cygdrive default prefix: 
        Build date: Mon Jan 21 12:48:41 EST 2002
        Shared id: cygwin1S3


Cygwin Package Information
Last downloaded files to: C:\zips\cygwin xfree\packages
Last downloaded files from: http://planetmirror.com/pub/sourceware/cygwin

Package             Version             
ash                 20020131-1          
bash                2.05a-2             
cygwin              1.3.9-1             
diff                0.0                 
fileutils           4.1-1               
findutils           4.1                 
gawk                3.0.4-1             
gdbm                1.8.0-3             
grep                2.4.2-1             
gzip                1.3.2-1             
inetutils           1.3.2-16            
libncurses5         5.2-1               
libncurses6         5.2-8               
libreadline4        4.1-2               
libreadline5        4.2a-1              
login               1.4-3               
ncurses             5.2-8               
readline            4.2a-1              
sed                 3.02-1              
sh-utils            2.0-2               
tar                 1.13.19-1           
termcap             20010825-1          
terminfo            5.2-1               
textutils           2.0.16-1            
which               1.5-1               
zlib                1.1.3-7             

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From spetreolle@yahoo.fr  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Log filling up
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020227124743.34078.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com>

Why couldn't this be done by putting several
">/dev/null" in startxwin ?

> But this can only be done by patching the binary.
> Replace "/tmp/XWin.log"
> "/dev/null\0log" (the \0 marks the character with
> ascii code 0.
> 
> bye
> 	ago
> -- 
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>  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017
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From harvey.richard@videotron.ca  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: harvey.richard@videotron.ca (richard harvey)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP : Cannot open display - fatal error problem
Message-ID: <000901c197fa$ed324f40$36e1c818@videotron.ca>

Hello all,

I have been running Cygwin with Xfree for a while now, querying the XDMCP
server at my work's machine without a hitch - eveything worked just fine. I
recently installed a second network adapter to share my Internet connection
with my wife's computer and things still worked fine with Cygwin for a
while, but I *now* get this message:

"XDMCP fatal error: Session failed Session 13 failed for display
myhostname.ca:0: Cannot open display."

I'm almost sure it worked OK for a while after I installed the 2nd NIC, but
now I get the X gray stippled background and nothing else!

I'm baffled now as to what happened. I searched the mailing archives to no
avail. Has someone out there found and possibly resolved this type of
problem?

Thanks,

Richard Harvey

Montreal, Qu??bec




From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Question
In-Reply-To: <1DD75DB3A008D311A3250008C707C5EE0A317D37@mcncmdm1exis6.marriott.com>
Message-ID: 

Chet,

> > I want to start an x-session on my windows/NT machine and get into KDE
> > running on my Linux S/390 machine. Can Xfree86 do this? I went


The simple answer is yes.  You can use XDMCP to open a remote session of KDE
using Cygwin/XFree86.  The process is documented at:
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html


However, the answer in your case will have to do with whether XDMCP is
enabled on your mainframe and on whether you have access to enable it if it
is disabled.

There is a lot of information about XDMCP available on the Internet.  Look
in the Cygwin/XFree86 FAQ or seach Google for 'XDMCP'.

Good luck,

Harold


From Darko.Palic@gmx.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Darko.Palic@gmx.de (Darko.Palic@gmx.de)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Antwort: Re: XWin w2k xdmcp-query - no valid address
References: 
Message-ID: <15395.1012989638@www39.gmx.net>

Okay,

Exceed is running fine in XDMCP?
I read something about problems with machines with multiple NICs, do you
have some?
Have you a tunneling device enabled, like the PGP VPN and so on?

> Thanks - yes, this works quite well. If there's no way to do it via XDMCP,
> then this is how I'll do it ...

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From rice@math.ukans.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rice@math.ukans.edu (Glenn Rice)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: ORBit install
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020220184148.00952ad0@titania.math.ukans.edu>

I am trying to install ORBit and I read the directions I found in the
ported software section on the CYGWIN website.  It said to install ORBit
run make with skipping the test directory.
How do I do this?
Thank you,
Glenn Rice 


From Patrick@JGSullivan.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Patrick@JGSullivan.com (Patrick Jaromin)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP to Solaris Hangs on specific W2k systems, not all
In-Reply-To: 
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020208093013.029ae868@mail01.jgsullivan.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020209194250.025fd690@mail.jgsullivan.com>

Harold-

Yes. I've had no problems running XFree86 locally.
In addition, I've been able to run remote X apps on the
machines that don't do XDMCP via ssh and setting DISPLAY.

- Patrick

At 06:25 PM 2/9/2002 -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
>Patrick,
>
>One question for starters: can you start a local Cygwin/XFree86 session
>(without XDMCP) on the machines that will not connect with XDMCP?
>
>Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Patrick Jaromin
> > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 3:50 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: XDMCP to Solaris Hangs on specific W2k systems, not all
> >
> >
> > I'm posting this to the newsgroup after what I believe was an
> > exhaustive search
> > of the archives...my apologies if I've missed a previously posted
> > solution.
> >
> > I've got 3 W2k systems attempting to connect to a couple Solaris 8 boxes.
> > One system connected immediately, without any fuss using the basic:
> > XWin.exe -query  -from 
> >
> > When I attempt this with the other two, the program hangs shortly after
> > displaying the black screen and hourglass cursor. Only right-click-close
> > or task manager will kill the app.
> >
> > After reading a few posts and the FAQ (on Sun's lack of 24-bit
> > color depth
> > support),
> > I noticed that the two that didn't work have video cards that
> > only support
> > 8, 16 and 24 bit color depth
> > -- while the working system supported and was set to 32 bit.
> >
> > Changing the other two systems to 16 or 8 bit didn't help....same hang.
> >
> > Replacing the video card on one with an NVidia with 32-bit support didn't
> > work either...same hang.
> >
> > I also attempted the -fp parameter even though it didn't appear to be a
> > font issue.
> >
> > The logs I'm familiar with (through previous postings) don't seem to
> > provide much information...and
> > look nearly identical in both the working and hanging case...with, of
> > course the major exception that
> > the log stops after the hang while the working system logs
> > additional info.
> >
> >
> > The XWin.log file looks like this: (with the -audit option)
> >
> > ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
> > winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1280 h 1024
> > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits
> > per pixel
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 996 1024
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found LEFT auto-hide taskbar
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - FwinCloseScreenShadowDDNL () - Freeing
> > screen resources
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> > winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - Not changing video mode
> > winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 5120
> > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff
> > BPRGB 8 d 32
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 32
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> > winCloseScreenShadowDDNL () - Freeing screen resources
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> > winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - Not changing video mode
> > winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 5120
> > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff
> > BPRGB 8 d 32
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 32
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> > :22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 disconnected
> > AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3
> > connected from IP
> > 192.168.2.27 port 34622
> >    Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: 58
> > AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 disconnected
> > AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3
> > connected from IP
> > 192.168.2.27 port 34623
> >    Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: 58
> > AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 disconnected
> > AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3
> > connected from IP
> > 192.168.2.27 port 34624
> >    Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: 58
> > AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 disconnected
> > AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3
> > connected from IP
> > 192.168.2.27 port 34625
> >    Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: 58
> > AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 disconnected
> > AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3
> > connected from IP
> > 192.168.2.27 port 34626
> >    Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: 58
> > AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 disconnected
> > AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:17 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3
> > connected from IP
> > 192.168.2.27 port 34627
> >    Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: 58
> >
> >
> > and /var/dt/Xerrors looks the same (until the hang) for the
> > working machine
> > and the ones
> > that don't:
> >
> > X Error of failed request:  86
> >    Major opcode of failed request:  51 (X_SetFontPath)
> >    Serial number of failed request:  10
> >    Current serial number in output stream:  12
> > X Error of failed request:  86
> >    Major opcode of failed request:  51 (X_SetFontPath)
> >    Serial number of failed request:  10
> >    Current serial number in output stream:  12
> > X Error of failed request:  86
> >    Major opcode of failed request:  51 (X_SetFontPath)
> >    Serial number of failed request:  10
> >    Current serial number in output stream:  12
> > X Error of failed request:  86
> >    Major opcode of failed request:  51 (X_SetFontPath)
> >    Serial number of failed request:  10
> >    Current serial number in output stream:  12
> > X Error of failed request:  86
> >    Major opcode of failed request:  51 (X_SetFontPath)
> >    Serial number of failed request:  10
> >    Current serial number in output stream:  12
> >
> >
> >
> > Is there anything else I can try? Did I miss something or are there other
> > logs to check?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > - Patrick
> >
> >
> >

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From barrysr@bcdwest.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: barrysr@bcdwest.com (barrysr@bcdwest.com)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Off lease computers and monitors for sale at incredible prices.
Message-ID: <2116613818_Au2Email>





From Darko.Palic@gmx.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Darko.Palic@gmx.de (Darko.Palic@gmx.de)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: problem with cygwin-xfree
References: <006e01c1bb75$46f4f170$5fc9e6a5@SILICON>
Message-ID: <31265.1014369418@www12.gmx.net>

Hi,

take a look at http://cygwin.com/packages/, you can find there the packages
needed for telnet.exe and ssh.exe.

The packages are:
- inetutils
- openssh

best regards,
Darko

> Hi, I installed cygwin-xfree86 on my PC running Windows XP, following 
> the online instructions step-by-step. I can run it, but can't use telnet 
> or ssh (telnet.exe and ssh.exe cannot be found anywhere, and the 
> /usr/bin directory is missing). I already tried reinstalling it, 
> unsuccessfully. What could be going wrong? 
> 
> Frank Zimmermann

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From paul@msunix.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: paul@msunix.co.uk (paul@msunix.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: crypt() 
Message-ID: <001001c19f7f$4d422cd0$7f6638d4@seraphina>

> hiya,
> 
> ive included #include 
> 
> and am using crypt() - why can't i compile? - libcrypt.a is in /usr/lib
> 
> gcc -lcrypt file.c -o file
> 
> unresolved linker error (crypt undefined?)
> 
> thanks.
> 
> paul@uk



From das@teegra.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: das@teegra.net (Dwight Schauer)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Invisible X client window borders
Message-ID: <200203250331.g2P3Vuj22861@star.vcsd.net>

I'm not sure if this is an Xserver problem or a a window manager on. In TWM 
and in Afterstep I don't get the rectangle or grid when moving or resizing 
client windows. The proper window decoration does show up on the x clients.
 
I have an Nvidia GeForce II MX and Windows XP. (On an Athlon Thunderbird).
 
I installed the latest Cygwin and Xfree a few days ago. I'm running AfterStep 
v. 1.8.11 compiled and running under Cygwin/XFree.

I did the same at work a week ago on a different machine, and resizing, 
placing, and moving windows is fine. (I don't have window contents shown on 
resize or move, and I use manual window placement if there is no room to 
display the window). At work on Cygwin/XFree the grid/rectangle shows up 
correctly in Afterstep, as it does on a native Linux XFree86 server.

Apart from that, XFree and Afterstep seem to be running fine on Cygwin. I 
can't get aterm to work, (it compiles and run and can get as far as 
displaying the shell prompt, but then it locks up) so I'm using the cygwin 
provided rxvt instead and it runs fine under X.


From a-goebel@gmx.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: a-goebel@gmx.de (Andreas Goebel)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Installation on CD-Rom, Copying a whole installation
Message-ID: 

Hello,

I am using the geometry-software "kseg" (www.mit.edu/~ibaran) at school, 
where it is installed on a solaris-system.

Unfortunately, most of my students do not have linux on their computer at 
home, only windows. So I tried to compile kseg on cygwin, and it worked fine 
(for those interested, see below). Now the problem is, that the 
installation-process is not so easy for people who are used to self-starting 
installation-cds only (which is the case for most pupils, I am sorry to say). 
So my questions are:

- is it possible to install cygwin/xfree on CD-rom and run it from CD-rom 
without installing it? (I guess not, probably some directorys must be 
writable)
- is it possible just to copy a whole cygwin-installation to CD-rom and copy 
it back to a local directory on a different computer? Of course, I have 
already tried so, and it did not work (startxwin.bat started, it ended with 
"could not connect to x-server..."), but maybe the only problem with this 
was, that I have installed cygwin on Drive E, while most people will copy it 
back to Drive C
- if all this is not possible, is there anybody out there who has written a 
nice installation-skript that installs xfree after cygwin is installed (this 
should not be too difficult for the average pupil) and can be edited to 
install some software too? If not, I will probably try to write one myself, 
but of course I??m not interested in reinventing the wheel...

Best regards, Andreas

For those interested, steps nessecary to install kseg on cygwin/xfree:

- Install cygwin as described in manual, don??t forget libjpg, libpng, gcc and 
make
- Install xfree as described in manual
- Install qt 2.? from kde on cygwin-project as described in readme
- edit profile (or whatever you use to configure your environment) and extend 
path to qt-binary directory and (this is not described in readme) set QTDIR 
(for instance QTDIR = /usr/local/lib/qt2, export QTDIR)
- extending LD_LIBRARY_PATH seems not to be necessary, as QT-dlls are in the 
QT-bin-directory
- download and extract kseg, edit makefile and replace gcc with g++
- type make, It should compile
- If you want, you can copy the binary "kseg" to a directory in your path


From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Log filling up
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020226173530.50628.qmail@web20806.mail.yahoo.com>

You could always redirect the log file to /dev/null ... 


--- Cary Jamison  wrote:
> I have just installed Cygwin/X 4.2.0 from binaries and am enjoying accessing
> both my Windows (XP Pro) and Linux boxes from one machine.  However, I found
> that I cannot leave X running too long or my log fills up with the following
> message:
>   winCursorOffScreen () - hmm...
> This can fill up a couple gigs worth of space overnight, when I have my
> machine locked.
> 
> Is there a way to disable this message?
> 
> Cary
> ---
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> Cary.Jamison@PowerQuest.com
> (801) 705-8685 voice
> (801) 705-4685 fax


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From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin X11
In-Reply-To: <3C34E8C7.DDC8F00A@integrix.com>
References: <3C34E8C7.DDC8F00A@integrix.com>
Message-ID: <20020104003751.N27340@cygbert.vinschen.de>

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 03:27:03PM -0800, Joseph I. Davida wrote:
> I am running latest Cygwin with X11 which were
> downloaded from 
> programming.ccp14.ac.uk
> 
> I am running on win2K with all the latest patches.
> 
> After some time (I think about an hour or more)
> the Cygwin window in which I start X gets filled
> with this inifinitely repeating message:
> winShadowUpdateDDNL () - IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt () failed: 887601c2
> 
> Is this a known bug?

It's the wrong mailing list.  Try cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com.

-- 
Corinna Vinschen                  Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to
Cygwin Developer                                mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com
Red Hat, Inc.


From cabineteaz@excel.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cabineteaz@excel.net (cabineteaz@excel.net)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Do you sell cabinets?
Message-ID: 


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product is well worth looking into.

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     2.  The faces of the cabinets will be flush, the tops and bottoms even;
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     4.  One man cabinet installation with Micro Adjusting accuracy.

These are only a few benefits.

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     Your name
     Your image
     Your product

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From rasjidw@bigpond.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rasjidw@bigpond.com (Rasjid Wilcox)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 00:12, Schulz Georges wrote:
> I have installed cygwin-xfree on SuSE 7.0 and it works fine.
> But I can not get it to work with SuSE 7.3. I compared all
> the adjustments that I made on 7.0 and I keep getting time
> out errors. Also I can telnet and ftp to the 7.3. Can someone
> help me.
>
> Roger Gardner
> r.gardner@midata.de
> Telefon:06145-506 590

$ netstat -u -a | grep xdm
udp        0      0 *:xdmcp                 *:*

OR

$ netstat -u -a -n | grep 177
udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:177             0.0.0.0:*

If you don't get these, then you don't have xdmcp listening, no matter what 
adjustments you have made.

I'm guessing here, but if you are using KDE's kdm, then you will probably 
find a kdmrc file somewhere (/etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc on RedHat) which says...
...
[Xdmcp]
# Whether KDM should listen to XDMCP requests. Default is true.
Enable=false
...

Either comment out the enable line, or make it say 'true'.

This kdmrc file is a new feature in KDE 2.2 - previously KDE just used xdm's 
configuration.

A similar edit in gdm.conf needs to be made if you are using GNOME's gdm.

Cheers,

Rasjid.


From guillot@eresmas.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: guillot@eresmas.net (guillot@eresmas.net)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Importante leer
Message-ID: 

Imprima y lea atentamente hasta el final. Es importante y le llevar?? 5 min. empezar a ganar 80.000 euros

(13.300.000 Pts/73.900 Us$)

Esto no es ninguna loteria ni sorteo, es una operaci??n real.

??Cuanto dinero se gasta usted en loteria, en salir un rato un dia o en cualquier cosa que no le reporta nada?

Este es un programa muy sencillo. El tiempo que le llevar?? es m??nimo para el dinero que va a recibir en dos semanas o menos.

Un poco de su tiempo y una inversi??n de 10 euros.



Aviso importante

Si usted rompe la cadena generada y no envia su regalo y envia el e-mail y trata de enga??ar, no recibir?? nada, no pierda el tiempo, son las matem??ticas. 

No pierda la oportunidad por una tonteria de 10 euros y un sello de correos.

 SI LO HACE HOY, EMPEZAR?? A RECIBIR SU DINERO UN DIA ANTES QUE SI LO HACE MA??ANA. SI LO HACE DENTRO DE DIEZ DIAS, EMPEZAR?? A RECIBIRLO DIEZ DIAS DESPUES QUE SI LO HACE HOY. SI NO LO HACE NUNCA, NUNCA RECIBIR?? NINGUN DINERO, SEGUIR?? SIN ??L

Hay gente que por no ir a por el sello queda pobre, pero en este mundo hay gente que consigue dinero y gente que aunque lo quiere, no lo consigue y se pasa la vida llorando porque no ha tenido la oportunidad.

No sea igual. usted ya no tiene excusa para lamentarse.

 





--------Esto es lo que Usted tiene que hacer--------

Solo tiene que hacer 50 copias de este e-mail ( si quiere puede hacer m??s, 100, 500, 1000...). Mientras m??s env??e m??s es la probabilidad de respuesta y m??s es el  dinero que recibir??.


Env??elo a amigos, o a cualquier otra persona que considere oportuno. 



Con 2 horas de trabajo puede hacer m??s de 80.000 euros en las pr??ximas semanas... y ??con una inversi??n de ??NICAMENTE 10 euros ?? 10 US$ ?? equivalente en su moneda! Un dinero que cualquier dia puede gastar en una comida basura o en una tonteria le puede proporcionar dinero que sus amigos que no participen no tendr??n.



SEGURIDAD

CUANDO RECIBA SU REGALO LA PERSONA A LA QUE SE LO ENVI??, ESTA LE ENVIAR?? EL INFORME PUBLICIDAD GRATIS. EN CASO DE QUE NO LO RECIBA, ESA PERSONA HABR?? ENGA??ADO PUES NO ENVI?? SU REGALO, NO RECIBI?? DICHO INFORME Y NO SE LO HA PODIDO ENVIAR. PROXIMAMENTE SE ORGANIZAR?? UNA LISTA DE ESAS PERSONAS CON SUS e-MAIL PARA REALIZAR UNA LISTA Y QUE SEAN CONOCIDOS POR TODOS.


----PASO A PASO----

Siga estas instrucciones Simples

1.      En una hoja de papel en blanco escriba: "Por favor env??eme por e-mail el informe de Publicidad GRATIS". 

2.     Escriba SU NOMBRE, DIRECCI??N Y E-MAIL claramente en la hoja, d??blela cubriendo SU REGALO DE 10 euros ?? EQUIVALENTE  y enviela por correo convencional (sobre y sello) al nombre y direcci??n de la persona que aparece como Primero (#1) en la lista QUE VIENE M??S ABAJO. S??lo env??ela a la PRIMERA PERSONA en la lista y solo 10 euros, 10 US$ o equivalente en su moneda (Solo billetes). 

3.      Modifique la lista de nombres, QUITANDO, EL NOMBRE DE LA PERSONA EN LA PRIMERA POSICION (#1) EN LA LISTA, SUBA LOS OTROS DOS NOMBRES DE POSICI??N Y AGREGUE SU NOMBRE Y DATOS A LA LISTA EN LA TERCERA (#3) POSICI??N. 

4.      Envie como m??nimo 50 COPIAS DE ESTA CARTA por e-mail a aquellas personas que haya elegido. Si env??a m??s(100, 500 ?? 1000, mejor para usted). (Enviandolo v??a E-mail el tiempo de respuesta es m??s r??pido se ahorra el gasto de sobres, sellos, y fotocopias)


Considere esto: MILLONES de Personas navegan en el Internet todos los d??as, todo el d??a, por todo el ??Mundo!??CINCUENTA MIL nuevas personas son usuarios nuevos en el Internet todos los meses! 


Una fuente excelente de nuevos nombres para enviar la carta, es la de las personas que le env??an a usted otros programas, y los listados de e-mail a los que tenga acceso.  Busque en internet.


Para enviar su carta por e-mail: 

[1.] En la barra de men??, en edici??n escoja Seleccionar Todo. 
[2.] Nuevamente en Edici??n escoja COPIAR (este documento) 
[3], Busque el ??cono de "un nuevo mensaje" de e-mail. 
[4.] Llene la direcci??n del nuevo e-mail y el t??tulo del Asunto 
[5.]Coloque el cursor en el cuerpo del e-mail, en la barra del men?? escoja Pegar . 

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 
Recuerde revisar los nombres y direcciones, anulando el nombre que aparece en primer lugar y suba el n??meros dos (al uno) y tres (al dos) una posici??n arriba, anote su propio nombre y direcci??n en la posici??n n??. 3. 

?? NO HAY NADA MAS QUE HACER.!

Cuando su nombre alcance la primera posici??n en unos d??as, ser?? su oportunidad de recibir SU DINERO. Vendr??n de otras 500 a 2,000 personas emprendedoras como usted y que han invertido un billete 10 euros y un par de horas de su tiempo para recibir 80.000 euros en dinero en efectivo. ??Eso es todo! Podr??a tener ese dinero en su buz??n entre una y dos semanas. 

 

Pienso que vale la pena el hacerlo. ??Adelante y pruebe usted mismo! 
Aun si s??lo hiciera la mitad, ??No ser??a suficiente?



----??Puedo participar varias veces?-----

Cada vez que ejecute este programa, simplemente siga los pasos del (1) al (3) y los cambios de nombres en la lista principal de regalo! ??Simple verdad? Puede repetir la operaci??n cuantas veces quiera en el futuro. Use siempre este e-mail como base de partida.

La gente a la que usted se lo envie usar?? el suyo y de repente encontrar?? dinero en su buz??n sin haber movido un dedo.

-----Considere esto-----

La ??nica manera de que este programa pueda funcionar y ganar dinero honesta y justamente es que cada uno de nosotros haga su parte. 



LISTA ACTUAL A MODIFICAR POR USTED. ENVIE 10 euros, 10 US$ o equivalente en su moneda AL 1?? DE LA LISTA, BORRELO Y PONGASE EL TERCERO ( CORRIENDO EL SEGUNDO AL 1?? Y EL TERCERO AL 2??) COPIE EL E-MAIL PARA ENVIAR A 50 PERSONAS ?? VEINTE ?? MIL ?? LO QUE ESTIME OPORTUNO:

[1] ?? Luz Macho
C/ Marques de Viana 57. 4??c
C.P. 28039. Prov. DE MADRID

ESPA??A

Emailto: luzmaro@wanadoo.es

 

[2] ?? Peter Ulhmann
Marques de Viana 57, 3?? C.
28039. Madrid.
SPAIN

Emailto: peul@wanadoo.es

 

[3] ?? Guillermo Zapata
Infanta Mercedes, 99. 28020. Madrid.
SPAIN

Emailto: guillot@eresmas.net 

 

Haga esto, envie sus e-mail cuanto antes para recibir sus beneficios lo m??s pronto posible. 
Saludos cordiales, guillot@eresmas.net



Aclaraci??n del funcionamiento: 

SI TIENE PREGUNTAS REM??TALAS A guillot@eresmas.net (cambie esta direcci??n por la suya una vez haya entendido el proceso, envie los 10 euros., pongas?? usted el tercero borrando al primero y corriendo a los dem??s y empiece a enviar este e-mail).

No olvide cambiar las direcciones de este e-mail por el del tercer colocado que ser?? usted tanto arriba como abajo de esta nota para garantizar que le pregunten a usted, el primer interesado y que una persona que quiera evitar que le env??e e-mails tenga derecho a ello.

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From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Please remove "sourcemaster" link from cygwin-xfree page
Message-ID: <20020106003218.GA16828@redhat.com>

I'd like to request that the 'sourcemaster@cygnus.com" address be
removed from the cygwin-xfree web pages.  In 99.99% of the cases, I've
found that people send inappropriate mail there -- mail that should
really go to the project mailing list.

My theory is that "sourcemaster" sounds like an individual while a
"mailing list" is a potentially frightening place filled with hostile
users.

Regardless, I've removed it from the cygwin mailing list.  I was
surprised to get some email today at sourcemaster@cygnus.com regarding
cygwin.  A grep revealed this address on the cygwin-xfree web pages.

Even if you disagree with the need to advertise this link, the address
is wrong.  It should be sourcemaster@sources.redhat.com.  I would still
rather not advertise it however.

cgf


From epconrad@acsu.buffalo.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: epconrad@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ed Conrad)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: "X connection to 127.0. ...explicit kill..."
References: <20020326014057.65843.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com>
		
		<3CA0641A.9786EDBF@acsu.buffalo.edu> 
Message-ID: <3CA07145.7AB4C71E@acsu.buffalo.edu>

Why don't you please re-read the original message.   I explained what happens
when I run the bat files.

The path in the bat files are correct or it would not open the xwindow in the
first place!  You cant even open startx with the wrong path. I get the startx
window, the window after that and then the xwin pops up for a second or so
before it crashes.

Something is going wrong when the xwindow is first opend.  The fact that I
can't run XWin.exe is just a clue I included because the user guide says I
should be able to run it.
Andrew Markebo wrote:

> / Ed Conrad  wrote:
> | cygwin is installd.  This is a bug or somekind or config problem i have.
>
> *bonk* you are trying to run Xwin.exe, what happens if you run
>  startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh??
>
> Basically the problem is that the environment variable PATH doesn't
> contain c:\cygwin\bin, or where you installed cygwin. If I recall
> right the startxwin-scripts sets this, but if you want to run without
> them, you have to set the path yourself.
>
> [...]
>
> | > | If I try to run XWin.exe, it says that it cant find
> | > | cygwin1.dll.
>
>         /Andy
> --
>  The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Remote tasks sleeping after 'su'
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Rob,

What you describe sounds logical.  Remember, it is your username, not root,
that has setup the X tunnelling through ssh.  Therefore, it makes sense that
an X client launched by root would not display.

I'm not a great X user, so I could be wrong... but I do think that the above
makes sense.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Rob Haines
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 12:32 PM
> To: Cygwin Xfree86 Maillist
> Subject: Remote tasks sleeping after 'su'
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been using Cygwin for a while now but am new to cygwin-xfree. I hope
> this question hasn't been answered before but I did check the archives and
> didn't find anything pertinent.
>
> I use this system to log into other systems (via ssh -X) and have the
> windows displayed on my cygwin-xfree desktop. If I run something as myself
> then everything is fine. If I log in, then 'su' to root, then run
> something
> the window never appears. If I look at 'top' then the task I just
> started is
> flagged as sleeping. This problem does not occur when using the
> putty/exceed
> combination to log in to my remote machine. I haven't tried
> logging straight
> in as root, because our security policy does not allow it. Is this a
> cygwin-xfree issue, or something else?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Rob Haines
> --
> hainesr7@hotmail.com
>


From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Schulz Georges wrote:

> I have installed cygwin-xfree on SuSE 7.0 and it works fine.
> But I can not get it to work with SuSE 7.3. I compared all
> the adjustments that I made on 7.0 and I keep getting time 
> out errors. Also I can telnet and ftp to the 7.3. Can someone
> help me.

Which Displaymanager is running? If you have kdm running, please check the 
FAQ for a query with KDM and Mandrake. I think this applies to you too.

In short:
edit /opt/kde2/share/config/kdmrc and modify the following lines:
: [Xdmcp]
: Enable=false
to
: [Xdmcp]
: Enable=true


HTH
    ago
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From moser@decodon.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: moser@decodon.com (Frank-Michael Moser)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: aterm under Cygwin/Xfree
References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683203@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: <3C39A1B5.9070200@decodon.com>

I encountered exactly the same problem.
So I downloaded the most recent aterm sources and
compiled it without problems against the latest cygwin
and cygwin-xfree but the problem resists.

Frank-Michael.


Suhaib Siddiqi wrote:

 > X 3.3.6 had X11R6.3 libraries, the latest cygwin-xfree is X11R6.4 based.
 > Try recompiling aterm and linking to newer version of X libraries.
 >
 > Suhaib
 >
 >
 >>-----Original Message-----
 >>From: Yaron [mailto:jethro@freakzilla.com]
 >>Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 2:39 PM
 >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
 >>Subject: aterm under Cygwin/Xfree
 >>
 >>  Hey all,
 >>
 >>I've been using Cygwin for ages, and had installed the xfree package
 >>around a year ago. I wasn't actually running the xserver under Cygwin
 >>because a year ago it wasn't all that usable yet. I was using Exceed,
 >>which is a commercial X server, and was using the cygwin/xfree X
 >>applications.
 >>
 >>I had also compiled aterm under cygwin and was using that.
 >>
 >>Lately I installed a new machine, and decided to try cygwin/xfree on
 >>it. I
 >>was delighted to see that the X server is now perfectly usable!
 >>However,
 >>aterm no longer worked correctly. The aterm seems to be waiting for
 >>some
 >>sort of buffer to fill before it refreshes it's display. Either that
 >>or
 >>there's some sort of timing issue. Either way, it makes aterm almost
 >>unusable.
 >>
 >>The thing is, I thought this was a cygwin/xfree problem, since my old
 >>machine had not had cygwin updated on it in a while, and still had X
 >>3.3.6
 >>on it. But about a week ago I upgraded cygwin (and NOT xfree) on my
 >>old
 >>machine, and aterm started exhibiting the same problem.
 >>
 >>I don't know if this is the right mailing list for this since it
 >>doesn't
 >>seem to be an xfree problem, but I figure people on this list might
 >>have
 >>encountered this sort of problem. I saw a similar question in the
 >>archive,
 >>but with no solution.
 >>
 >>
 >>TIA,
 >>
 >>
 >>-Yaron
 >>
 >>--
 >>


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From spam@blackandwhiterainbow.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: spam@blackandwhiterainbow.com (matt rice)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: gnome-libs-1.4.1.1 configure: error please help
References: <3C987BFA.1786.1F6E7BF2@localhost>
Message-ID: <3C98F75A.6010100@blackandwhiterainbow.com>

when configuring libdb
add --enable-compat185 to your existing configure switches..

Eli Kleinman wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I tried to compile on cygwin gnome-libs I got a configure: error
> This is the error
> 
> checking for __db185_open in -ldb-3... no
> configure: error: Your db library is missing db 1.85 compatibility 
> mode
> 
> I did  install db-4.0.14 and I am still getting this configure: error
> 
> If any one could tell me what to modify in the configure, or what to 
> fix that I should be able to compile it
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Eli
> 
> 
> 





From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Installation on CD-Rom, Copying a whole installation
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Markebo [mailto:flognat@flognat.myip.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 6:44 PM

> First thoughts, do a package with all required tgz's and then 
> do packages with the fonts not required.. docs.. 
> 
> Hmm what more is needed?? ;-)

Here's the easiest way to get started:
* 1 package (and one setup.hint) per binary tarball.
* make sure that each package lists all it's dependencies.
* edit the install script you've got, to remove any tarball extraction
stuff, and put it in a new tarball called 'X11-install' or something as
a postinstall script, and make sure that the server/client packages
depend on that.

That should do it. Oh, explicitly list the source for all the packages
as the same source tarball (if that's what exists for X).

Cheers,
Rob


From roger.maillist@starband.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: roger.maillist@starband.net (Roger)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Tips?
Message-ID: <1012940570.8808.40.camel@localhost2.localdomain>

Cygwin is really cool when it is executing under winxp with a 2x750P3
and >256MB ram!  

using rxvt and bash shell with Lucida Console font.

also have blackbox-0.62.0 on xfree-4.1 installed (xfree-4.2 as soon as i
get it compiled).

1) It is truely nice to be able to manipulate files as easily on my
linux o/s.  i've always hated the dos shell (is command.com & cmd.com)
as it's difficult to actually use them.

2) It is really really nice to be able to compile windows exe files
without spending $$$ on a windows compiler!

2) xfree86 works nicely also!


Are there anymore tips on integrating cygwin with windows more
someplace? like a faq? i've already reviewed all of cygwin.com.

If you can, cc stuff to my roger@linuxfreemail.com account as my
starband.com account it in the process of being cancelled. thanx.


- Roger
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From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Do I need X11/R6....... on KDE? Pls confirm
In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268323B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: 

On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote:

> > You mean I CANNOT run KDE WITHOUT X11R6???
> 
> Yes, you cannot run KDE on any OPERATING SYSTEM with X11R6.  KDE is a
> desktop environment, not a Windowing system itself.
> 

Let's say it this way: You need X11R6 to run KDE.

bye
	ago
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From atkinson@syrres.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: atkinson@syrres.com (Victor Atkinson)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under v4.2.0?
Message-ID: 

Greetings,

Thanks to all for the quick replies.  Unfortunately, I haven't been able to
get a workable configuration together yet.  I have tried both combinations
of screen 0 & 1 designations with XWin:

Separate invocations:

	start /B XWin -screen 0   -query 
	start /B XWin -screen 1   -query 

Single invocation:

	start /B XWin -screen 0   -query  -screen 1 
 -query 

And I have also tried setting the display to alternate values:

	start /B XWin -display :0 -query 
	start /B XWin -display :1 -query 

as well as all combinations of display & screen (0.0, 1.0, 1.1, etc) for the
two sessions, both via the command line and the DISPLAY environment
variable.

The results are almost always identical, first XWin starts and connects to
host1.  However, when the second server starts, the first screen appears to
be reset to and empty X server session (just blank background) while the
second server connects to host2.  When I am finished with host2 and quit the
second session (close the window), then the first session gives me a login
prompt at host1 again.

It appears as though there is some hardwired common display behavior that is
common among all server instances, even if they are started from separate
XWin processes.

I'll keep plugging away at it.  I did setup VNC on the remote hosts again,
to do what I needed to do simultaneously on host1 and host2.  It does seem
that VNC is much more of a bandwidth and processor load than XFree86, which
doesn't really surprise me.  (If my remote host screen saver kicks in within
a VNC client window, it nearly brings my laptop to its knees, but in the
same circumstance XFree86 is smooth.)

Victor Atkinson
Syracuse, NY, USA


>
> On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Staf Verhaegen wrote:
>
> > Use a different screen number for every session
> > % XWin -screen 0 width height -query host1 &
> > % XWin -screen 1 width height -query host2 &
> > % ...
>
> I don't expect this to work. Both will try to listen on port 6000. You
have
> to modify the _display_ not the _screen_number.
>
> bye
> 	ago
> --
>  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
>  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
>  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017
>



From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Virus reported when downloadig xfnts.tgz
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26832E9@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>


There is no virus in xfnts.tgz as far as I know.

Suhaib

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Lounsbury [mailto:rlounsbury@progeny.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:08 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Virus reported when downloadig xfnts.tgz
> 
> 
> When I was downloading the file xfnts.tgz, my McAfee virus 
> scan reported an unnamed virus in the file.  I have Virus 
> Scan version 4.50, with definitions file 4.0.4180 (dated 
> 1/9/02) and scan engine 4.1.60.  Is this a real virus, or 
> just a mistake on McAfee's part?
> 
> Thank you
> Ron Lounsbury
> rlounsbury@progeny.net
> 
> 


From Max.Buvry@enseeiht.fr  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Max.Buvry@enseeiht.fr (Max Buvry)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Xfig and xfree
Message-ID: <3C8506C5.87D1FC30@enseeiht.fr>



Hi,

I use XFree/Cygwin without problem.

I install xfig (with wfig-3.2.3d-cygwin-1.1-bin.tar.gz) now. When I
execute xfig,
the message error is cygjpeg6b.dll is missing. 

Must I install something else ?

In advance, thanks.

mb


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin XFree web page looks odd in Mozilla
References: 
Message-ID: <01c301c19f5b$c3cdf6a0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
>  I'm kind of surprised that there were
> errors at all, as I usually run the validator after submitting.

Cool. I was surprised too, but I didn't look further than the surface of
the issue.

> I've already made lots of changes to get the page to look as well as
it does
> in Mozilla... I'm going to wait for 1.0 before I make more drastic
> Mozilla-specific changes.  Don't worry, I'm not holding my breath... I
have
> been watching Mozilla since March 2000, when 1.0 was going to be
released,
> "any day now".  :)

Lol. And then some more.

Rob


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Launching Term
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

/ "Robert Mark Bram"  wrote:
| Howdy all!
| 
| I am one of those unfortunates that is trying to manage Rational Rose on the
| same machine as cygwin-XFree.

Get rid of rose.. get rid of rose.. (ehm you might notice that I am
working one of the Rational enemies) ;-) Or well, maybe.. wrap rose
into a script to, so the environment variables is only set when
you start rose, or Xfree..

I think it should be (not "\"):

SET TERMCAP=/etc/termcap
SET TERMINFO=/lib/terminfo
set SHELL=/bin/bash.exe
set TERM=cygwin
 
what happens if you try bash instead of bash.exe?

| When I click on the new desktop and select XTERM, it comes back with an
| error message:
| 
|   Could not exec /cygwin/bin/bash.exe: no such file or directory.

Xfree desktop? click in twm menu?? ( it should be /bin/bash.exe it
should try to start ) What happens if you type the xtermish stuff in
the xterm popped up??

Its not so that you have another xterm somewhere on the system??

| Is it the case that XFree wants to launch a different bash? (I searhced the
| cygwin directory heirarchy and found only one bash.exe though.)

Shouldn't be.. 

        /Andy
-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Wierd keymappings and missing Meta
In-Reply-To: <200201281534.g0SFYC017345@jeeves.brpj.co.uk>
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Nigel Hathaway wrote:

> The **REAL** answer to your question is found in the mail archives.
> 
> See "Re: xmodmap, xkb and XF86Config" by Laurent Pinchart dated Wed, 24
> Oct 2001 17:25:56 +0200.
> 
> To answer the "what happens if..." below: the answer is it crashes with a 
> horrible error message, which translated means "Please develop me more. I 
> don't feel comfortable under Windows."

Have you set /tmp to binary mount? The server otherwise reads the files 
generated by xkbcomp in a different way and may crash.

bye
    ago
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Thanks for the message
In-Reply-To: <00c401c1b267$965df480$141ea8c0@amdk63450>
Message-ID: 

Jeff,

> Yes, I'm enjoying Cygwin/XFree86, but in Qwerty
> I have tried
> xmodmap xmodmap.fr
> setxkbmap -layout fr
> XWin -query "my server" +xb -xkbmap fr
> Nothing works : "Could'nt connect to server" or other message
> In your FAQ, it's very simple, but it doesn't work in my configuration, I
> think xdm-config is not read (I put an echo "here xdm-config" put
> it doesn't
> appear)
>
> So no one at my work don't want to use Cygwin/XFree86
> I use when I want to use graphical application
>
> Thanks for your very good job on Cygwin/XFree86

I haven't got a lot of experience with xkbmap and xmdcp (though Alexander
Gottwald has answered this question a million times), so I am redirecting
your question to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list.

Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP to Solaris Hangs on specific W2k systems, not all
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020209194250.025fd690@mail.jgsullivan.com>
Message-ID: 

Patrick,

> Yes. I've had no problems running XFree86 locally.
> In addition, I've been able to run remote X apps on the
> machines that don't do XDMCP via ssh and setting DISPLAY.

Okay, then you want to run xdm in debug mode to get some more information.
Alexander Gottwald has described this process many times... one of them is
at:
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-01/msg00253.html

Let us know what you find out from xdm.

Harold


From nik@bates-haus.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nik@bates-haus.org (Nikolaus Bates-Haus)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: In XFree, WIN-E to start Windows Exporer causes taskbar hang
In-Reply-To: ; from huntharo@msu.edu on Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 05:09:34PM -0500
References: <20020220134200.D895@rover.bates-haus.org> 
Message-ID: <20020220172559.A1560@rover.bates-haus.org>

eh, sorry - forgot to mention that bit.
I'm on Win98SE: 4.10.2222 A

-nik

On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 05:09:34PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
> I cannot duplicate that behavior on Windows 2000.
> 
> Works for me.
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Nikolaus Bates-Haus
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 1:42 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: In XFree, WIN-E to start Windows Exporer causes taskbar hang
> > 
> > 
> > I didn't see anything about this in the mailing list archives:
> > Cygwin/XFree 4.2.0 (and prior versions)
> > Cygwin DLL 1.3.9 (and prior versions)
> > When I try to open a Windows Explorer using the Win-E keyboard shortcut
> > (Windows key, E), the explorer window doesn't open and the 
> > taskbar freezes.
> > I can still Alt-TAB between applications, and start things from 
> > the desktop,
> > but can't do a thing with the taskbar.
> > After a long time (1/2 hour to an hour; not sure if it's the 
> > length of time
> > or me doing something) Explorer will start, and the taskbar will 
> > come back.
> > 
> > This ONLY happens when Cygwin has keyboard focus.
> > It only happens when using the keyboard shortcut; starting from the start
> > menu, desktop or existing window doesn't do it.
> > Once it happens, I can still start Windows Explorer from the desktop.
> > Don't know about other keyboard shortcuts.
> > 
> > -nik


From spetreolle@yahoo.fr  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Installation on CD-Rom, Copying a whole installation
In-Reply-To: <3C965464.7000103@blackandwhiterainbow.com>
Message-ID: <20020319061545.17455.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com>

 --- matt rice  a ??crit??:
> dont do that Andreas!! the XFree86 4.2.0 binaries
> can easily be 
> converted into a cygwin installer package..

if this is so easy, why don't we have now one official
?
XFree86 4.2.0 is on the servers since several months
if I remember correct...
... and at this day we only have Xinstall.sh .
> 
> you need to do 2 things... create a cygwin package
> and create a hint 
> file to install it...
> 
> download the cygwin binaries
> uncompress them all...
> this should convert the cygwin Xfree86 binary into a
> package usable by 
> the installer.... (not that i've tested it)
> 
> mkdir -p /tmp/usr/X11R6
> mv ./* /tmp/usr
> cd /tmp
> tar -C /tmp -czvf XPackage.tgz usr
> 
> create the setup.hint
> the cygwin contributors guide:
> http://cygwin.com/setup.html
> 
> Note: you'll have to install packages from a local
> directory.


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From nkansara@primus.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nkansara@primus.com.au (Naveen Kansara)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Problems starting XFree86 
Message-ID: <000701c1d8b4$eb8724e0$6a16fea9@nkansara>

Hi

I have recently installed XFree86 4.2 on my PC which has WIN 98 and cygwin
version 2.194.2.21. I have read the mail archives and have tried all the
available options but nothing seems to work. I am giving the results when
startx is envoked under bash or startxwin under dos. Both startx and
startxwin.bat are as supplied by the installation(which was troublefree).

The output when running startxwin.bat from dos command prompt
>>startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows 95/98/Me
X connection to 127.0.0.1:0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)

The output when running startx from bash prompt
>>startx
waiting for X server to begin accepting connections .
..
giving up.
xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.

$ XWin -query 127.0.0.1:0.0
opens up the Cygwin/XFree86 window but closes it after a few secs without
any error messages. Trying to run Xwin -query to a remote host (which is a
Solaris machine) has the same effect.

Trying xterm on it's own gives the can't open display error.
$ xterm
xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1


In both instances the Cygwin/XFree86 window opens but is completely
blank(white background), remains for few seconds and then closes. However
running XWin has the same response but no error message is printed.

I have a PPP and a Realtek RTL8029(AS) Ethernet adapter.
Below is the output of ipconfig /all

Windows 98 IP Configuration

 Host Name . . . . . . . . . : NKANSARA
 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 203.134.24.70
                                       203.134.26.70
 Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
 NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
 IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
 WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
 NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No

0 Ethernet adapter :

 Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
 Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
 IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 210.50.202.191
 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
 Default Gateway . . . . . . : 210.50.202.191
 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
 Primary WINS Server . . . . :
 Secondary WINS Server . . . :
 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 01 01 80 12:00:00
 Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 01 01 80 12:00:00

1 Ethernet adapter :
 Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8029(AS) Ethernet Adapt
 Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-4F-49-00-73-37
 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
 IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 169.254.14.92
 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
 Default Gateway . . . . . . :
 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
 Primary WINS Server . . . . :
 Secondary WINS Server . . . :
 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 03 30 02 10:50:46
 Lease Expires . . . . . . . :

Below is the output of netstat -a
$ netstat -a

Active Connections

  Proto  Local Address          Foreign Address        State
  TCP    nkansara:1088          NKANSARA:0             LISTENING
  TCP    nkansara:137           NKANSARA:0             LISTENING
  TCP    nkansara:138           NKANSARA:0             LISTENING
  TCP    nkansara:nbsession     NKANSARA:0             LISTENING
  TCP    nkansara:137           NKANSARA:0             LISTENING
  TCP    nkansara:138           NKANSARA:0             LISTENING
  TCP    nkansara:nbsession     NKANSARA:0             LISTENING
  UDP    nkansara:1088          *:*
  UDP    nkansara:nbname        *:*
  UDP    nkansara:nbdatagram    *:*
  UDP    nkansara:nbname        *:*
  UDP    nkansara:nbdatagram    *:*

Though the ping works well  on 127.0.0.1
$ ping 127.0.0.1

Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum =  1ms, Average =  0ms

Some of the solutions tried by me are:
1)setting the ecvironment valiable OS and DISPLAY
2)trying various sets of ip address such as 0.0.0.0

It seems to me that either it cannot connect to 127.0.0.1 or the connection
can't be maintained. Any suggestions/pointers/references would be highly
appreciated.

Thanks

Naveen



From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin XFree web page looks odd in Mozilla
Message-ID: 

> > Rob - The errors you reported were trivial and are fixed now; they did
not
> > affect the rendering of the page.  I'm kind of surprised that there were
> > errors at all, as I usually run the validator after submitting.
>                                      ^^^^^^^^^
> Is this an open source tool ?
>
> Ralf

Basically.  The HTML document type definition is open source, it can be
downloaded from http://w3c.org/.

Checking a document against a given type definition is usually done with the
open source tool NSGMLS: http://www.jclark.com/sp/nsgmls.htm.

The HTML Validator provided by http://w3c.org/ is simply a web interface to
a program that compares a document with the dtd.  I'm not sure if the actual
validator front-end is open source, but that doesn't really matter.

The address of the W3C HTML Validator is:
http://validator.w3.org/

Does that clear things up?

Harold


From julians@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: julians@redhat.com (Julian Smart)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XWin terminates immediately under W2K
In-Reply-To: 
References: <4.2.0.58.20020205172813.024b26c0@pop>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020205181344.029cfe40@pop>

At 06:59 PM 2/5/02 +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote:
 >On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Julian Smart wrote:
 >
 >> Is there any log file I can look at? 
 >
 >Yes. It should be created in /tmp/XWin.log

Excellent, I'll be able to get a lot further now, and the error
messages are documented in the FAQ.

Many thanks!

Julian
-- 
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From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86 4.2.0
In-Reply-To: <20020121084543.H2502@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
References:  <20020121084543.H2502@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20020121164828.V2502@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 08:45:43AM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote:
> > I'm pulling the xf-4_2-branch tree right now.  I might build a distribution
> > within a couple days.
> > 
> I'll do it today and get it up on ftp.xfree86.org. If anyone else can
> pull it across to the cygwin machine that'd be good.
> 
They're up on ftp.xfree86.org:/pub/XFree86/4.2.0/binaries/Cygwin

If anyone can test them beside me - that'd be good (mirrors should be
updated soon).

Alan.


From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: install cygwin
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683259@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>

Wrong list.  Ask at cygwin@cygwin.com please

Suhaib

> -----Original Message-----
> From: refreshh@mit.edu [mailto:refreshh@mit.edu]
> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 9:21 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: install cygwin
> 
> To whom it may concern
> 
> I've installed cygwin, and then I delete them by deleting directory
> cygwin and
> cyginstall.  And then I tried again to install cygwin again.  But I
> got bugges
> to install.  Please let me know how to install cygwin again.
> 
> Regards,
> Yeonjoo Kim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
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From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: This mailing list
In-Reply-To: <3C6A2F1E.8FB1C87B@peaktime.be>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Michel Bardiaux wrote:

> Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz wrote:
> > 
> > Sorry about that:-(
> > 
> > Is it possible to set Reply-To: field to list address?
> > 
> Good idea. And when reconfiguring the list server, it would be nice to
> have Subjects prefixed with [CYGWIN-XFREE]. I know that is not so easy,
> because the list server must ensure the prefix is not 'stuttered'. But
> whan you are subscribed to say 6 lists, even one like cygwin-xfree that
> does not show the origin of messages, makes management of one's inbox
> rather hard. If there were two... .

These two topics have already been discussed. And we agreed to leave the
settings as they are now.

bye
    ago
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From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window.
In-Reply-To: <20020111155909.19544.qmail@web13507.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020111160756.26973.qmail@web20804.mail.yahoo.com>

Yes, but did you try it anyways?  Most Linux distributions set XDMCP up as
default when it sets up X.  I would simply try it, before you worry about
setting it up on the Linux system.

Another thought about the Netscape problem you are having... How much time are
you giving it to come up?  How far away is the remote machine?  (What is the
ping rate?)  If you have a ping rate of 70ms or so, Netscape will be dog slow,
and could take as long as 10 minutes to come up.... X programs dont work too
well over networks with latency (ie cable modem).

The other thought, if you think your window manager is the problem... kill off
twm, and run a window manager from the remote machine, and try it again.

Brian



--- Raber Chris  wrote:
> > 
> > So did you try running an XDMCP desktop with the
> command line 
> > interface that I
> > mentioned in the last mail?
> 
> Unfortunately the machine is physically remote from me
> and I am not root, so I haven't been able to try this
> yet. I do intend to try this, but it's going to take a
> little while...
> 
> The documentation on XDMCP present on the cygwin site
> shows how to use XDMCP, but not how to set it up...
> 
> > 
> > Brian
> 
> 
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From julians@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: julians@redhat.com (Julian Smart)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XWin terminates immediately under W2K
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020205172813.024b26c0@pop>

Hi,

I'm using latest Cygwin and Cygwin XFree on W2K, and after following
all the instructions, it seems to be installed OK and paths are as they
should be. However on running XWin manually, using the .bat file or the .sh
script, it the window pops up for a second and then closes. There
are no error messages given.

Is there any log file I can look at? Or maybe there's a debug version of
XWin that I can try without having to recompile it myself...

The only installation thing I might have got wrong was answering No
when it asked me if I wanted the emulated framebuffer engine
(or something like that, I can't remember the exact terminology).

Thanks for any advice -- I'd love to get this running so I can try
writing an X11 port of wxWindows using Cygwin.

Julian
-- 
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From john.turner@pobox.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: john.turner@pobox.com (John A. Turner)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X browser
References: <20020125154041.A5152@nimbus.dmillard.com>
Message-ID: <3C51EE1A.74BA8E21@pobox.com>

Phil Humpherys wrote:
> 
> I'd sure like to get an X browser running in xfree.  I don't seem to be
> able to get netscape or mozilla to work in cygwin-xfree.

why in the world would you want to do such a thing??

-John Turner


From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xserver crashes on kde 2.2.1's kate
In-Reply-To: <20020102080559.GA610@kar.berlin.frey.de>
Message-ID: <002e01c19372$27ea35e0$865c07d5@BRAMSCHE>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Reinhard Karcher
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:06 AM
> To: Cygwin-Xfree
> Subject: Re: xserver crashes on kde 2.2.1's kate
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 24, 2001 at 09:21:23AM +0100, Ralf Habacker wrote
> > while porting kde 2.2.1 to cygwin I recognized a xserver crash while starting kate. 
> > The error is: 
> > 	Fatal server error:
> > 	negative sized edge?
> 
> I saw messages like this last summer, they had dissapeared when I
> returned from holidays August the 20th. Check, if you are using the latest
> X-Server. Try Harold's latest Testversion.
> 
Thanks for this. I'm sorry for this stupid question. 
Of course I should have looked in the xfree website. Somebody other told me this too :-(

BTW: Can anyone tell me, when this patch will go into the official cygwin xfree release ?

Thanks 

Regards 
Ralf 
> Reinhard
> 
> 


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From roger_maillist@alltel.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: roger_maillist@alltel.net (Roger)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Tips?
In-Reply-To: <20020205211015.GC8527@redhat.com>
References: <1012940570.8808.40.camel@localhost2.localdomain> 
	<20020205211015.GC8527@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1013010849.8727.7.camel@localhost2.localdomain>

On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 16:10, Christopher Faylor wrote:

> 
> Huh?  There are FAQs on the Cygwin site.  If you have reviewed the site,
> you've found the FAQs.

faq's. yup read them. many packages under development sometimes have
special interest sites seperate from the main website. ie: 

http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley/1596/en/cygwin.html
This person details his notes on compiling & installing allot of the
main gnome libraries under cygwin.

> 
> If you have specific questions that aren't in the FAQs then ask them.
> 
> >If you can, cc stuff to my roger@linuxfreemail.com account as my
> >starband.com account it in the process of being cancelled. thanx.
> 
> http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> 
> cgf

mmm...thanx for shooting up my compliment.


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From scharn@bluewin.ch  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: scharn@bluewin.ch (Nicolas Scharnagl)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: try to run astrolog X version
Message-ID: <3C975A7F.68F9D0AA@bluewin.ch>


i offer some astrological sourcecode at
http://www.geocities.com/masegand
it is quite crappy maybe but works for me on linux.
i would like to run also a cygwin-xfree86 version on windows.
now i managed to compile the code using mingw-gcc on Windows 2000
(it is file xastrolog.exe in al542f-win.zip) but it crashes
in/after XOpenDisplay as i can see from gdb.
if i hardcode the display name in XOpenDisplay, it still crashes , gdb
says in the last function of all object files,
even this cannot be possible from the logic of the code.

i tried cygwin 1.3.9-1 and cygwin 1.3.10-1 binary release as mentioned
in FAQ. I downloaded the Cygwin/Xfree86 release on Mar 5

it is also not the X server because it crashes also with reflection as
the xserver or display on a unix box.
now if anyone on this list would like to check his horoscope with cygwin
i would be happy if he/she told me how he/she
did it.



From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Wierd keymappings and missing Meta
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

> What happens if you use:
> 
>   setxkbmap uk
> 
> instead?

For this, make sure the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/* exists and that /tmp 
is mounted in binary mode.

bye
	ago 
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From eric.chastan@netcelo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: eric.chastan@netcelo.com (Eric Chastan)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: building gnu emacs under xfree ?
References: <200203051718.g25HIbu08483@cate0-223.reshall.ou.edu>
Message-ID: <3C8500B0.A273191F@netcelo.com>



Jon Cast wrote:

> Eric Chastan  wrote:
>
> > Is someone allready manage to build emacs under xfree ?
>
> Just about everyone who's built Emacs on a free Un*x has built it
> under xfree.
>
> To the best of my knowledge, though, no one has done such a thing on
> Cygwin, though.
>
> > Is someone have some tips on how doing it ?
>
> Yes.  Modify Emacs' configure.in file, s/cygwin.h file (not included
> in stock CVS), and (possibly) source code to support Cygwin and
> Cygwin/XFree.  Then, build it.  Or, wait for me to finish doing the
> required modifications.  (Which may take a while; I don't /need/ Emacs
> on Cygwin, so I probably won't have as much resources to devote to it
> as you might.)
>

Jon , thanks for your response. I will  wait that you've done the
modification because I'm afraid that i will not be able to go throught the
source code to do the "required" modifications !

Eric.

>
> > Eric.
>
> Jon Cast


From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Dvorak keyboard
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020210121730.00a538c0@pop.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Ken wrote:

> I'm running GAIM, on cygwin, with xf86, glib, gtk, and window maker 
> installed. When I run X, the keyboard layout is qwerty. How can I change it 
> to dvorak?

Yes, either by loading the dvorak keyboardlayout with xmodmap or setxkbmap.
But as I never needed to set a dvorak keyboard layout, I can not tell you
exactly which arguments are needed for setxkbmap. But maybe others on 
the list can.

bye
    ago
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From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cyg xfree86 webpage suggestion
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020116175811.GI25452@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 11:46:13AM -0600, David Kohn wrote:
>Hi Cygwin and Christopher Faylor,

There is no reason to personally address email to a mailing list.

>Just a quick suggestion, from someone who just went through
>downloading/installing Cygwin/Xfree86:
>
>It might cut down on confusion,etc, if on the Cygwin/Xfree86 page where it
>mentions downloads, you warn people in advance of problems they may
>encounter.

Hmm.  You apparently found the XFree86 web page but you are sending
email to the wrong mailing list.

I have very little to do cygwin-xfree.  It is maintained by other
people.

I've redirected this message to the correct list.

cgf

>Before they try installing Cyg/XFree86, they should first do the following
>w/ their CygWin:
>	- update their cygwin to something reasonably current
>	- subsequently grab the older version of ncurses (to avoid that
>cygncurses5.dll problem when launching X)
>	- in the cygwin installer, make sure they select "Unix" linefeeds instead
>of "DOS" (to avoid that "font not found" problem)
>
>I found these links helpful in tracking down help and instructions, FWIW:
>
>http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2001/msg00124.html
>http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-error-font-eof
>
>Other than that, the installation was straightforward and the install
>instructions in the User Guide worked great!
>
>Thanks for your excellent work and generosity in making these packages
>available to the public!
>Dave Kohn 


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: ssh2 in xterm problem
In-Reply-To: <200203141718.SAA26395@r2d2.physik3.gwdg.de>
Message-ID: 

Hans,

Don't forget to cc the list in all replies.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hans Werner Strube [mailto:strube@physik3.gwdg.de]
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:19 PM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Subject: RE: ssh2 in xterm problem
>
>
> > That sounds like normal behavior for Windows applications.
> ssh2 would have
> > to be *specifically* designed in order to be usable from an xterm in
> > Cygwin/XFree86.  The reason that it runs in a Cygwin shell is that the
> > Cygwin shell is actually an MS command prompt that is running
> bash... but
> > the xterm is not an instance of an MS command prompt, so ssh2 no longer
> > runs.
> >
> > I hope that makes sense.
>
> This sounds plausible. But "ssh2 no longer runs" is not true, it runs but
> outputs its prompt to the Cygwin shell and can be killed by ^C in
> the xterm
> shell. But why can it write to the Cygwin shell but not read the password
> from there?
>
> (BTW, as an easy workaround I can set the DISPLAY environment in
> the Cygwin
> shell and call ssh2 from there. Remote X clients then appear in the Cygwin
> X window.)


From Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com (Cary Jamison)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Log filling up
Message-ID: 

I have just installed Cygwin/X 4.2.0 from binaries and am enjoying accessing both my Windows (XP Pro) and Linux boxes from one machine.  However, I found that I cannot leave X running too long or my log fills up with the following message:
  winCursorOffScreen () - hmm...
This can fill up a couple gigs worth of space overnight, when I have my machine locked.

Is there a way to disable this message?

Cary
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From darko.palic@gmx.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: darko.palic@gmx.de (Palic, Darko)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XFree without TCP
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Hi,

try to install the "Microsoft loopback device", which is on every Windows
version available.
You can assign a IP address to your MSloDev and xfree should see now a
network device.

best regards,
Darko

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Janne Naukkarinen [mailto:kiviapaja@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 5:44 PM
> To: darko.palic@gmx.de
> Subject: XFree without TCP
>
>
>
> >sure just follow the Harolds HowTo and you hava a standalone XFree!
>
> Why the system installs right, but
> start causes many errors from TCP/IP and
> lack of display? The default is, that system need some
> kind of network support. Yhe system (server) tries to
> connect to net automatically and cannot do
> that, so system goes down.
>
> The installinng sh script is executed properly.
>
>
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From freeweb@nyckelpiga.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: freeweb@nyckelpiga.de (Gerrit P. Haase)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: dillo-0.6.3
In-Reply-To: <2219723480.20020107155746@familiehaase.de>
References: <2219723480.20020107155746@familiehaase.de>
Message-ID: <113744510.20020108105217@familiehaase.de>

> I have uploaded dillo-0.6.3 http://dillo.sourceforge.net/
> to my website.

BTW, `dillo' is a web browser: The web browser;)

> Fetch your copy now:
> http://familiehaase.de/cywgin/dillo/

> This version requires Xfree86 for Cygwin && the
> following Cygwin packages to be installed:
> - jpeg
> - png
> - zlib
> - libintl1

> Also required (with shared libs):
> - glib
> - gtk+

> Please see the xfree-cygwin archives for the patches of Steve
> I used and the updated patch I made some weeks ago if you want
> to build them yourself.

> I use selfbuilt binaries, but there are some builds around
> in the web which should work too.  Please report back to me if not.

> After unpacking from the Cygwin root dir `/' the binary dillo.exe
> lives in /usr/local/bin.

> Then fire up X and type:
> $ dillo &
> at some prompt.

> From the README:

>   Here's a list of some well known problems:

>       * no FRAMES rendering
>       * no cookies
>       * no FTP
>       * no https

> Have fun!


> Gerrit


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin/XFree86: telnet and ssh
In-Reply-To: <000401c1af2f$6aa6e210$0201a8c0@w633l>
Message-ID: 

Send all of your questions to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list, where I have
forwarded this question:
cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jean-Paul Laberge [mailto:jplaberge@magenta.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 11:58 AM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Subject: Cygwin/XFree86: telnet and ssh
>
>
> Hi Harold,
>
> Sorry to bother you with my questions.
>
> I just installed the Cygwin/Xfree86 package by following your
> documentation
> word by word (2 times).  Everything went well, until page 19 when
> I tried to
> use telnet and ssh.  I don??t find these programs in my /usr/bin directory
> (or any other directories under C:\Cygwin).  Where should I find these
> programs?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jean-Paul Laberge
> Montreal, Quebec
>
>


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:cgf@redhat.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:40 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Cc: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are 
> they called?)
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 11:27:18PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
> >Okay, I mirrored the files: 
> >http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/xbase-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
> >http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/setup.hint
> >http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/md5.sum
..
> I assume that these are just for people to play with but that 
> will require a little bit of customization of local 
> setup.ini's if you want to do anything useful.

Harold...
If I can be so bold, can I suggest that you add a setup.ini to the
collection of files - just include the setup.hint contents (see
http://www.cygwin.com/setup.html for the setup.ini format.

This will let folk grab the X install via setup.exe with NO
customisation of local files - all they have to do is run setup.exe,
click on "Add" in the mirror screen and put
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase in as the URL. Then setup.exe will
merge the main setup.exe and the xbase one into one seamless view.

If you are going to have http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase and
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xclient and
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/... (while testing) then put the setup.ini
at http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo and include the path in the install:
rule.

Rob


From jmp@micromuse.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jmp@micromuse.com (Jean-Marc Paulin)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ?
Message-ID: <013f01c1a8b1$87f67bc0$d527a8c0@CACHAREL>

Hi there

I've just completed installing XFree...
Added the ice window manager (need full screen and 16 bits color depth, but
fair enough).

And the whole thing is running slow, really slow.

Ok, this is not a trivial piece of code (it is quite impressive to be
honnest), but with a dual PIII 1Ghz, 1G of RAM, Matrox G450, I wouldn't
expect any perf problem.

any ideas ?

thanks

JM


From gabrielarcos@cantv.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: gabrielarcos@cantv.net (Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Geomview on Cygwin+Xfree
References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C266AAAF@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: <009c01c1c5d6$a6821260$0400000a@CANTV.NET>

there is something like make log? I can see in the console all the error
report

----- Original Message -----
From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" 
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:25 PM
Subject: RE: Geomview on Cygwin+Xfree


> Lesstif  (MOTIF) cannot be dynamic of Windows.... Read it in FAQ, I
> mentioed it a long time ago.  X11 libraries are not static, they are
> dynamic  (I guess DLLs mean dynamic library, right?)
>
>
> Post your linker error, someone might be able to help you.  Simple
> words, "did not compile..."  "I got a linker error" does not give any
> information to anyone.
>
> Suhaib
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
> > owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta
> > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:19 AM
> > To: Andrew Markebo
> > Cc: Georges-Pierre Bonneau; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: Geomview on Cygwin+Xfree
> >
> > the last time I try it, the configuration was successfully, but when I
> > try
> > to make it the linker stop it with errors. I think is a problem when
> > trying
> > to link against dinamicaly linked libraries becouse lesstif and X11
> > libraries are static on cygwin.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andrew Markebo" 
> > To: "Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta" 
> > Cc: "Georges-Pierre Bonneau" ;
> > 
> > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: Geomview on Cygwin+Xfree
> >
> >
> > > / "Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta"  wrote:
> > > | I try to compile but a can't. I will apreciate a cygwin-xfree
> > binary
> > version
> > > | of geomview, or hints to get it compiled.
> > >
> > > How far have you come (could it be that you miss lesstif)?? This I
> > > think is more like a question for the geomview project.
> > >
> > > Try google ;-)
> > >
> > >         /Andy
> > >
> > > |
> > > | ----- Original Message -----
> > > | From: "Georges-Pierre Bonneau" 
> > > | To: 
> > > | Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 11:52 AM
> > > | Subject: Geomview on Cygwin+Xfree
> > > |
> > > |
> > > | > Hy,
> > > | >
> > > | > Does anyone have tried to compile geomview
> > > | > (http://sourceforge.net/projects/geomview) on cygwin-xfree?
> > > | > Would someone be interested by a cygwin-xfree version of
> > geomview?
> > > | >
> > > | > Thks,
> > > | > -- GP
> > > |
> > > |
> > >
> > > --
> > >  The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!
>
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From spam@blackandwhiterainbow.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: spam@blackandwhiterainbow.com (matt rice)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xbase
References: <3C9B73F5.2050703@blackandwhiterainbow.com> 
Message-ID: <3C9B981B.3070603@blackandwhiterainbow.com>

just ran through it..
after modifying my setup.ini
i had varying results:

a install over my existing cygwin install which was installed with 
Xinstall.sh while installing returned a bunch of "could not 
overwrite..." yet ran..

a install into a new directry installed without any input and ran (after 
i added it to my PATH)

a "upgrade" over the above install worked fine

Andrew Markebo wrote:
> / matt rice  wrote:
> | http://flognat.myip.org/xbase/
> | 
> 
> Weeh I am published.. I am published.. :-)
> 
> Hmm anyone tried it and managed to get it working?? Is the silence a
> good sign?? Or is it a sign that I have managed to do something that
> destroys the computers so much that the poor users can't get back and
> warn the others??
> 
>         /Andy
> 





From lhall@rfk.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: lhall@rfk.com (Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc))
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: proper version of dll
In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268332C@ins-exch.inspirepha
 rm.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20020205094315.01d19a20@pop.ma.ultranet.com>

Still the wrong mailing list.  This problem is application specific.  The
application in question needs to provide the specific Cygwin DLL version
it requires.  The Cygwin community is not responsible for maintaining or 
providing unknown third party versions of the Cygwin DLL.  Also, to be 
complaint with the Cygwin open-source license, it would need to provide 
the source to the version of the Cygwin DLL that the application uses.  
Since I don't even know the name of the application, I can't say whether 
this is already being done or not.  If not though, it is in violation of 
the license terms.  

The original poster should contact the distributor of the application with 
this problem.  This list is for questions and issues about Cygwin as 
distributed by Cygwin community.  Folks looking for support for 
applications not distributed by the Cygwin community but happen to use
the Cygwin DLL still need to consult the application provider.


Larry Hall                              lhall@rfk.com
RFK Partners, Inc.                      http://www.rfk.com
838 Washington Street                   (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office
Holliston, MA 01746                     (508) 893-9889 - FAX



At 09:20 AM 2/5/2002, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote:
>Wrong mailing list,  I forwarded your message to cygwin mailing list
>
> > 
> > Hello Sir,
> > 
> > I am finding problem with not having the proper version of 
> > cygwin.dll. 
> > If I install the cygwi, from the "www.cygwin.com", I get the 
> > file cygwin1.dll and not cygwin.dll. My application needs cygwin.dll
> > 
> > This is the error I get when I run my application under bash.
> > 
> > Z:\1200\tools\ekmdc_pc.exe: *** cygwin DLL and APP are out of 
> > sync -- DLL version mismatch 17 < 19
> > 
> > Can you please tell me how can I get the proper version of 
> > the cygwin.dll required for my application.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > With regards
> > 
> > Nagaraj Rao S.D.
> > GEMS-IT Engineering
> > Wipro GE Medical Systems Ltd.
> > #4, Kadugodi Industrial Area
> > Sadaramangala
> > Bangalore - 560 067
> > INDIA
> > Ph: +91-80-8452923 extn 1457
> > Fax:+91-80-8452924
> > email:nagaraj.rao@geind.ge.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE ALONG WITH ANY ATTACHMENTS IS INTENDED 
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From bmargulies@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: bmargulies@yahoo.com (Benson Margulies)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: problem with xterm with 4.2.0 and w2k sp2 current security patches
Message-ID: <20020302024916.65678.qmail@web20309.mail.yahoo.com>

most attempts to start xterms on my W2K SP2 with current security patches
fail with the following. Starting from a non-X cygwin window succeeds.



      0 [main] xterm 1456 sync_with_child: child 1492(0x388) died before
initial
ization with status code 0x18B00
    163 [main] xterm 1456 sync_with_child: *** child state child loading
dlls
xterm: Error 29, errno 11: Resource temporarily unavailable


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From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Windows based app.server
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020206213502.37955.qmail@web20804.mail.yahoo.com>

Nah... they were quick and dirty hacks to see if it worked... basically, in the
init code, there is a section that connects to the DC of the root Windows
Window... I changed it to take the taskbar name of the window, and used the
window's DC instead.  And then there were a few other size things, so it was
looking at the size of the window, instead of the desktop.  I dont have them
any more, as they were just my own little experimentation if such a concept
could work.  I determined : Yes, a concept could work, as long as no other
window were blocking the window you wanted to display.... I would guess you
could fix this so it woulnt depend on that, but I never looked that far...  I
have since deleted the source code...

It wouldnt be that hard to do something like this, I would immagine, but I dont
know.  I also got xwinx to display across to another Cygwin X server... just
dont try to display from your desktop to your fullsized windows server... You
will get nested image updates, causing a very unhappy and confusing display :)

Ok... enough rambling.
B




--- Jared P Bostic  wrote:
> 
> Brian Genisio wrote:
> 
> > I have looked at the code, and for fun, poked at it a bit.  I have
> > gotten it to display a single window, instead of a full desktop.
> > Possibly, this type of idea could be extended, and wrapped in a nice
> > little spawining script, where if you wanted to run something... say
> > MS Word, you could ship MS Word across your network to your X server.
> 
> Hey Brian,
> 
> OT a bit but, is there a way someone could get a look at those mods you
> made? :-) :-)  BTW, has anyone tried displaying this remote svc (xwinx)
> on cygwin/xfree86 (ie. windows to windows) with/without success?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jared
> 
> 
> -- 
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Jared P. Bostic
> Oklahoma Climatological Survey Operations Center
> Email:	jpbostic@operations.ocs.ou.edu
> ----------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 


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From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin XFree web page looks odd in Mozilla
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <003501c1a014$aa7307e0$7ca907d5@BRAMSCHE>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 5:27 AM
> To: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de
> Cc: cygx
> Subject: RE: Cygwin XFree web page looks odd in Mozilla
> 
> 
> > > Rob - The errors you reported were trivial and are fixed now; they did
> not
> > > affect the rendering of the page.  I'm kind of surprised that there were
> > > errors at all, as I usually run the validator after submitting.
> >                                      ^^^^^^^^^
> > Is this an open source tool ?
> >
> > Ralf
> 
> Basically.  The HTML document type definition is open source, it can be
> downloaded from http://w3c.org/.
> 
> Checking a document against a given type definition is usually done with the
> open source tool NSGMLS: http://www.jclark.com/sp/nsgmls.htm.
> 
> The HTML Validator provided by http://w3c.org/ is simply a web interface to
> a program that compares a document with the dtd.  I'm not sure if the actual
> validator front-end is open source, but that doesn't really matter.
> 
> The address of the W3C HTML Validator is:
> http://validator.w3.org/
> 
> Does that clear things up?
> 
Yes Thanks

> Harold
> 
> 


From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: problem with keyobord on AIX
Message-ID: 


Hi Fiorenzo

Yes, I tried that and you are absolutely right!! I have NumLock on
permanently.
When I omit -kb parameter and let the NumLock key off, everything is OK and
XWin uses English keyboard layout.
When I omit -kb parameter and let the NumLock key on, it works like AltGr
is permanently pressed and XWin uses Czech keyboard layout (my Windows
default), that means I can write special characters only - like \|[]{}#<>

Harold, is there any way I can help you to fix this bug? (I cannot provide
you AIX machine, but I can run some tests and send you the results.)

Pavel Rybnicek

PS: Send next mails to the mailing list, please.



                                                                                                                                         
                    "Fiorenzo                                                                                                            
                    Zanotti"             To:                                                                    
                               Subject:     problem with keyobord on AIX                                                       
                                                                                                                                         
                    11.02.2002                                                                                                           
                    19:00                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                         




Hi. I have had the same problem.
I think it's a Bug that happen only when we use CDE. (on linux All is OK)
It seems that BlockNum act as Alt_Gr.
Be sure that BlockNum is Off.

Fiorenzo Zanotti.





From fftdsp@yahoo.com.cn  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: fftdsp@yahoo.com.cn (=?gb2312?q?=C0=C9=20=CF=CC=B5=C0?=)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: how to add a specified path to PATH
Message-ID: <20020105053901.45877.qmail@web15005.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>

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From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: (patch seq: 5151) config file support for cygwin port
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:

> The code looks fine to me, but, I don't want the patch committed until some
> effort is made to follow the formatting of the other files in hw/xwin.
> Also, I've got a few problems with the Imakefile changes, as well as with
> the InitOutput.c changes.

I've little time at the moment. So I'll not fix these small style errors
and submit the patch again but will add new features and submit a new patch
later with the style fixed and other topics (mouse, maybe layout) complete.

bye
    ago
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From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Do I need X11/R6....... on KDE? Pls confirm
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268323B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>

keep the mails to list only please!

Yes, you cannot run KDE on any OPERATING SYSTEM with X11R6.  KDE is a
desktop environment, not a Windowing system itself.

Suhaib

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Tang [mailto:mtang1@oslo.westerngeco.slb.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 7:34 AM
> To: Suhaib Siddiqi
> Subject: RE: Do I need X11/R6....... on KDE? Pls confirm
> 
> 
> You mean I CANNOT run KDE WITHOUT X11R6???
> 
> Can I confirm that ? Thanks...
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
>  >
> 
> >You cannot run KDE with X11R6 on any Operating Systems.
> >
> >
> > > Thanks and regards,
> > > Michael
> > >
> 
> 


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From marcw@onlymooo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: marcw@onlymooo.com (Marc Williams)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xdmcp login
Message-ID: <1013353545.1945.13.camel@fred.williams.etc>

I was pleasantly surprised to find almost no difficulty in using the
XWin -query command from one of my Win98 machines to get to the Gnome
login screen on one of my Linux machines.  Thanks Cygwin people!!

My question is this: when using this method (XWin), is there a way to
bypass the Gnome login and get right to the Gnome desktop i.e. passing
the Windows authentication info on to the Linux machine?  Thanks!



From joseph.d.bronkema@lmco.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: joseph.d.bronkema@lmco.com (Joe Bronkema)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XWin core dump
References: 
Message-ID: <3CA35A00.F65E0B01@lmco.com>

Harold,

I did an actual file search.

Joe

Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> Joe,
> 
> Have you done an actual file search for multiple versions of cygwin1.dll, or
> have you just assumed that since you only installed Cygwin once that you
> only have one copy of cygwin1.dll?  If you've just assumed, then you need to
> do a file search, as lots of software comes with its own copy of
> cygwin1.dll.
> 
> Let us know which it is,
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Joe Bronkema
> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 9:41 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: XWin core dump
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I tried Cygwin/XFree for the first time today, and was unpleasantly
> > surprised with a core dump when I tried to start the server.
> >
> > I'm running Windows 95 with Cygwin 1.3.10 and the 4.2.0 binaries from
> > mirrors.rcn.net.  Here's the stack dump:
> >
> > $ cat XWIN.EXE.stackdump
> > Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=19E0C48A
> > eax=82BBAE20 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00A4EBE8 esi=82BBA00C
> > edi=82BBA040
> > ebp=00A4EC00 esp=00A4EBBC program=C:\CYGWIN\USR\X11R6\BIN\XWIN.EXE
> > cs=0157 ds=015F es=015F fs=361F gs=0000 ss=015F
> > Stack trace:
> > Frame     Function  Args
> > 00A4EC00  19E0C48A  (00000000, 000000C0, 46000000, 82BBA00C)
> > 017D1AC8  00021401  (FFFFFFFF, FFFFFFFF, FFFFFFFF, FFFFFFFF)
> > 0179E578  01786E3A  (017D1AC8, 0974F18B, 2BC4E856, C483FFFC)
> > 6029107 [main] XWin 586635 handle_exceptions: Error while dumping state
> > (probabl
> > y corrupted stack)
> >
> > I checked the FAQ.  The entry for STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION suggested
> > multiple conflicting versions of cygwin1.dll.  I have only the one.
> >
> > Any ideas?  Any additional info I could provide that would help?


From BaerRS@Hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: BaerRS@Hotmail.com (R. Soctt Baer)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: x -query problems after update to xfree86 4.2
References: 
Message-ID: <000001c1ca8d$68bb0110$3cc8047e@softdev.liebert.com>

I hate to be a bother.. but has anyone else had this problem...  if not were
do I submit a bug report ??

Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Baer" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:54 PM
Subject: x -query problems after update to xfree86 4.2


>
> I have upgraded my Linux box to XFree86 4.2.. and now when I try to
connect
> to it from cygwin, on a NT 4.o box.. it will not connect....
> here is the command I am using...
> /usr/X11R6/bin/X -query hostnameOfLinuxbox(..or IP)
> This just gives me the x window(black/white checkerd... but no log-in like
> it use to.
> I just upgraded to Xfree 4.2 on the Linux box(SuSE 7.3)
> and first though this might be where the problme was.. but I if I go to
> another Linux box ..(both other SuSE & other Linux Distros..Red Hat..)..
> that has not had the X server upgraded.. I can still log into the SuSE
Box..
> and bring up the X desktop(KDE)...(the whole desktop... not just an app)
> I have sence upgraded my cygwin & Xfree86 on my windows to the current
> releses.
> I can run the startxwin.bat fine.. and then ssh in to the Linux box.. and
> bring up an application fine..
> I can do the X -query in to a none upgraded SuSE box from cygwin
> I can do the X -query in to a upgraded SuSE boxe from a non-upgraded SuSE
> 7.3 and Red Hat 7.2 box
> So this leaves me kind of stuck... I am wondering if their has been a but
> reported between xfree86 4.1 & 4.2 /cygwin and xfree86 4.2 /linux..
> anyone have any ideas...
> I am getting this on the upgraded SuSE box...
> /var/log/warn
> kdm[1149]: Abnormal helper termination, code 1, signal 0
> kdm[1149]: fatal IO error 32 (broken pipe)
> .. I dont see any error on the cygwin side....though I'm not real sure
where
> to look either...
>
>
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From david.w.dawson@lmco.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: david.w.dawson@lmco.com (Dawson, David W)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: problem with using xsetroot without window manager
Message-ID: <0C73AA5F720CD311AC2A0008C7DBA9B403BDF609@emss09m13.ems.lmco.com>

Pardon my earlier mistake (re: ability to turn off XWin reset).  The
-noreset command line option appears to be undocumented(?)
	-D.
---------------------
David Dawson
david.w.dawson@lmco.com
703-367-3885


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Alexander Gottwald
> [SMTP:alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de]
> Sent:	Friday, January 11, 2002 4:19 AM
> Cc:	Cygwin-Xfree
> Subject:	Re: problem with using xsetroot without window manager
> 
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Ralf Habacker wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm using the latest Xserver Test Release and have recognized a problem,
> 
> > when starting some apps without any window manager.
> > 
> > For starting kde/kde2 I'm using setxroot to choose another background at
> 
> > the start of the launching process, which needs some time. At this time
> no 
> > window manager is running. With this configuration the color isn't set, 
> > but the xserver seems to be restarted. (The window seems to be closed
> for 
> > a little while and comes back) After startung twm, kwm or kwin color 
> > setting works. The same effect occurs, when I'm starting for example 
> > xdpyinfo without any window manager. When the end of the listing is 
> > reached the server "restarts".
> 
> This is the normal behavior. After the last client disconnected, the 
> Xserver resets. Normally xinit is the first process that connects to the 
> Xserver, exec the .xinitrc scripts and exits after the last program from 
> xinitrc (normally the windowmanger) has ended.
> 
> You can switch the Xserver to not resetting by adding the switch -noreset 
> to the XWin commandline. This is not recommend if you use the Xserver for
> terminals, since all settings that are made in a session are not reset
> until 
> the next session starts.
>  
> bye
> 	ago 
> -- 
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From cpraber@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cpraber@yahoo.com (Raber Chris)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Newbie question: trying to get remote netscape window...
Message-ID: <20020111040345.20901.qmail@web13505.mail.yahoo.com>

First, thanks for Xfree/cygwin. Just what I needed to
do some remote Linux work from my PC...

I have cygwin/xfree and can start remote xterms from a
linux server just fine. I'd like to be able to run a
netscape or other browser from my remote linux
machine, but trying to run netscape doesn't seem to
work.

I am using the twm. Do I have to run kde or gnome to
pull this off? What is the simplest way to use some
other window manager? I'd prefer not to have to
install another wm on my pc if I don't have to.

Suggestions are much appreciated.

TIA,

-Chris.

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From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Installation on CD-Rom, Copying a whole installation
In-Reply-To: <20020319061545.17455.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Sylvain Petreolle wrote:

> if this is so easy, why don't we have now one official?
> XFree86 4.2.0 is on the servers since several months
> if I remember correct...
> ... and at this day we only have Xinstall.sh .

Because nobody had the time to do and test it. You
are welcome to do it.

bye
	ago
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From Ralf.Boetnagel@dvg.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Boetnagel@dvg.de (Ralf.Boetnagel@dvg.de)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XWin w2k xdmcp-query - no valid address
Message-ID: 

Hi,

I know this has been around for some time, couldn't find a solution yet,
though.

My Machine: W2K, running most cygwin installed via setup.exe with
setting:current on Feb 5th 02.
And yes: I use TokenRing. But: If there are problems with Token Ring - why
are there udp-packets (at
least a few - see below) exchanged between server and client ?

Without XDMCP (like: ssh to host and startkde there) works fine.

I start XWin like this:

XWin.exe -query  -from  -ac

/tmp/XWin says:

ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits
per pixel
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 4072
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 32
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
error opening security policy file
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy       (I moved that one, just in
case, didn't work before either)

Fatal server error:
XDMCP fatal error: Session declined No valid address

Ok. Now I just read about a debug-Version auf XWin, which i promptly
downloaded and tried:

/usr/X11R6/bin/debug>./XWin-debug.exe -query  -from  -ac
InitConnectionLimits: MaxClients = 255
ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
Xserver: DefineSelf(): ifname = lo, addr = 127.0.0.1
Xserver: DefineSelf(): ifname = eth0, addr = 0.0.0.0
Xserver: DefineSelf(): ifname = eth0, baddr = 255.255.255.255
Xserver: DefineSelf(): ifname = eth1, addr = 0.0.0.0
get_xdmcp_sock: binding xdmcp socket to addr :0
(EE) Unable to locate/open config file
Error reading config file
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000f
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits
per pixel
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 4072
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
error opening security policy file
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

.... probably some other error ? but it looks like the ip comes out fine

Now - I also have Exceed installed on this machine and the
Destination-Server has Solaris 8, so
i dumped the IP-Packets for both X-Servers that got sent to the Host:

This is with cygwin-XFree, the startup-command was:

XWin -query chekov -from 6.201.253.220 -class HCLpcXserver -displayID
HCLpcXserver:8CF0463DB -noreset
(the class and displayID-stuff went in the invocation because it made the
whole thing look more exceedish
on a packet-level - wild guessing)

Me is my machine with Xfree86 and TheServer is the Solaris-box which I want
to contact via XDMCP.

In Packet 3 things start to differ...

  1   0.00000 Me -> TheServer     UDP D=177 S=1442 LEN=15

           0: 1040 0800 20a2 ae7d 0000 f682 baa8 aaaa    .@.. ..}........
          16: 0300 0000 0800 4500 0023 2245 0000 8011    ......E..#"E....
          32: 1783 XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX 05a2 00b1 000f    ................
          48: f876 0001 0002 0001 00                     .v.......

  2   0.00141     TheServer -> Me UDP D=1442 S=177 LEN=56

           0: 0040 0000 f682 baa8 0800 20a2 ae7d aaaa    .@........ ..}..
          16: 0300 0000 0800 4500 004c f253 4000 ff11    ......E..L.S@...
          32: 884a XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX 00b1 05a2 0038    .J.............8
          48: 50a7 0001 0005 002a 0000 0008 7530 3130    P......*....u010
          64: 3231 3132 001c 3220 7573 6572 7320 206c    2112..2 users  l
          80: 6f61 643a 2030 2e30 2c20 302e 302c 2030    oad: 0.0, 0.0, 0
          96: 2e30                                       .0

  3   0.77793 Me -> TheServer     UDP D=177 S=1442 LEN=88

           0: 1040 0800 20a2 ae7d 0000 f682 baa8 aaaa    .@.. ..}........
          16: 0300 0000 0800 4500 006c 224c 0000 8011    ......E..l"L....
          32: 1733 XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX 05a2 00b1 0058    .3..?..........X
          48: 87b3 0001 0007 004a 0000 0000 0000 0000    .......J........
          64: 0200 124d 4954 2d4d 4147 4943 2d43 4f4f    ...MIT-MAGIC-COO
          80: 4b49 452d 3100 1358 432d 5155 4552 592d    KIE-1..XC-QUERY-
          96: 5345 4355 5249 5459 2d31 0016 4843 4c70    SECURITY-1..HCLp
         112: 6358 7365 7276 6572 3a38 4346 3034 3633    cXserver:8CF0463
         128: 4442                                       DB

  4   0.00020     TheServer -> Me UDP D=1442 S=177 LEN=36

           0: 0040 0000 f682 baa8 0800 20a2 ae7d aaaa    .@........ ..}..
          16: 0300 0000 0800 4500 0038 f254 4000 ff11    ......E..8.T@...
          32: 885d XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX 00b1 05a2 0024    .]......?......$
          48: 53cc 0001 0009 0016 0010 4e6f 2076 616c    S.........No val
          64: 6964 2061 6464 7265 7373 0000 0000         id address....


When I do it with Exceed it looks like:


  1   0.00000 Me -> TheServer          UDP D=177 S=1462 LEN=15

           0: 1040 0800 20a2 ae7d 0000 f682 baa8 aaaa    .@.. ..}........
          16: 0300 0000 0800 4500 0023 2329 0000 8011    ......E..##)....
          32: 169f XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX 05b6 00b1 000f    ................
          48: f862 0001 0002 0001 00                     .b.......

  2   0.00128     TheServer -> Me UDP D=1462 S=177 LEN=56

           0: 0040 0000 f682 baa8 0800 20a2 ae7d aaaa    .@........ ..}..
          16: 0300 0000 0800 4500 004c f257 4000 ff11    ......E..L.W@...
          32: 8846 XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX 00b1 05b6 0038    .F.............8
          48: 5093 0001 0005 002a 0000 0008 7530 3130    P......*....u010
          64: 3231 3132 001c 3220 7573 6572 7320 206c    2112..2 users  l
          80: 6f61 643a 2030 2e30 2c20 302e 302c 2030    oad: 0.0, 0.0, 0
          96: 2e30                                       .0

  3   0.04664 Me -> TheServer          UDP D=177 S=1462 LEN=75

           0: 1040 0800 20a2 ae7d 0000 f682 baa8 aaaa    .@.. ..}........
          16: 0300 0000 0800 4500 005f 232a 0000 8011    ......E.._#*....
          32: 1662 XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX 05b6 00b1 004b    .b..?..........K
          48: 0711 0001 0007 003d 0000 0100 0001 0004    .......=........
          64: 06c9 fddc 0000 0000 0100 124d 4954 2d4d    ..?........MIT-M
          80: 4147 4943 2d43 4f4f 4b49 452d 3100 1648    AGIC-COOKIE-1..H
          96: 434c 7063 5873 6572 7665 723a 3843 4630    CLpcXserver:8CF0
         112: 3436 3344 42                               463DB

  4   0.00867     TheServer -> Me UDP D=1462 S=177 LEN=60

           0: 0040 0000 f682 baa8 0800 20a2 ae7d aaaa    .@........ ..}..
          16: 0300 0000 0800 4500 0050 f258 4000 ff11    ......E..P.X@...
          32: 8841 XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX 00b1 05b6 003c    .A......?......<
          48: d969 0001 0008 002e 0000 0046 0000 0000    .i.........F....
          64: 0012 4d49 542d 4d41 4749 432d 434f 4f4b    ..MIT-MAGIC-COOK
          80: 4945 2d31 0010 XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX    IE-1..unreadable
          96: XXXX XXXX XXXX                             cookie-junk :)


Is it possible that the cause of my troubles is the
XC-QUERY-SECURITY-1-part
of the package ?

I tried with and without -auth, -ac -noreset, -class, -displayID, :0,
Env-var OS=WinNT/"", -sp,
-from, -broadcast, -query.

Maybe someone can help me, thanks in advance             Bye Ralf


From Georges-Pierre.Bonneau@imag.fr  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Georges-Pierre.Bonneau@imag.fr (Georges-Pierre Bonneau)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Geomview on Cygwin+Xfree
Message-ID: <3C878CD9.1909CB6@imag.fr>

Hy,

Does anyone have tried to compile geomview
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/geomview) on cygwin-xfree?
Would someone be interested by a cygwin-xfree version of geomview?

Thks,
-- GP


From darko.palic@gmx.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: darko.palic@gmx.de (Palic, Darko)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP connection dog-slow (hopefully solved)
In-Reply-To: <20020328.135730.74730706.edi@serbski-institut.de>
Message-ID: 

really odd :-)


>
> I think I've tracked down the problem to a ATI graphic card utility called
> ati2evxx.exe. As it seems, it doesn't do anything but eats a lot of system
> resources. After throwing it out, at least the two machines I've
> tried started
> networking with cygwin at normal speed. Anyway, thanks a lot for
> your help.
>
> Cheers
>
> Edi
>


From lassauge@mail.dotcom.fr  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: lassauge@mail.dotcom.fr (E. Lassauge)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: image viewer?
References: <20020131140215.A21277@nimbus.dmillard.com>
Message-ID: <3C5ACA20.75B5D0B1@mail.dotcom.fr>

Phil Humpherys a ??crit :
> 
> I'd sure like to have an image viewer of some kind in cygwin-xfree.
> I couldn't get xv to compile...  anyone have any suggestions?


	Of course, I compiled several image viewers:
- xv
- gqview
- xli
- xloadimage

	You can find binary versions on my web site:

	http://lassauge.free.fr/cygwin/

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	|      Eric Lassauge       |   ext.zxmul0g2i001@astrium-space.com |
	|                          | TRASYS-G2I                           |
	+--------------------------+  eric.lassauge@g2i.com               |
	| lassauge@mail.dotcom.fr  | GIE ADELE                            |
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	+--------------------------+--------------------------------------+


From rancon@gmx.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rancon@gmx.net (NGUYEN DINH Quoc-Huy)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Languages under Cygwin/XFree
Message-ID: <3C83EEC5.2020500@gmx.net>

Hi,

I want to use Cygwin/Xfree86 with a French Keyboard, but when
connecting to a remote host through XDMCP the input are in
US kbd format.

How can I reconf this ?
Thnx


From darryl@shecora.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: darryl@shecora.com (Darryl Wagoner)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Greetings,

Thanks to Harold I do see packets going to the server and being answered,
but only once in awhile will I get a log in screen.  Any suggestions
on how to debug this?

thanks

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:25 PM
> To: Darryl Wagoner; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
> 
> 
> Darryl,
> 
> According to the Linux XMDCP HOWTO
> (http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/gdm.html), the port number is
> 177, not 117.
> 
> I don't know what else to tell you.  Try using kdm instead.
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Darryl Wagoner
> > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:03 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
> >
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I think I have followed all the directions, but all I get is a
> > blank X screen with a pointer cursors.
> >
> > The request doesn't seem to be getting to the Linux system.
> >
> > I did a "tcpdump port 117" and I don't see any packets at all going
> > to Linux.
> >
> > In the docs it says to change gdm.conf
> >
> > [xdmcp]
> > Enable=1
> >
> > but all the other options have the Boolean true so I followed suit.
> >
> > [xdmcp]
> > Enable=true
> >
> > I did do a netstat to make sure xdm was listening on the correct port.
> >
> > Is it possible that Xwin.exe is sending to a different port?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > --
> > Darryl Wagoner - WA1GON
> >
> > Your phone line can be the life line for the unemployed. Sign up
> > today at:
> > http://www.proud-americans.org/
> >
> > *** Please pass the word to at least three others. ***
> >
> > "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing."  - Edmund Burke [1729-1797]
> >
> >


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Using XFree without any network connection
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

| Is it possible to use XFree86 for Cygwin without
| any network connection in single computer?

Yes it is, but you probably need to have tcp-ip/winsock installed, the
easiest way to do this is to add a dummy dial up networking icon.. 

        /Andy

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From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Problem with Solaris
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020328113903.40372.qmail@web20802.mail.yahoo.com>

Take a look at your .xsession-errors file on the solaris machine AFTER your
loging fails.  There is probably something wrong with your .xinitrc or
.xsession files.  Possibly go downt to minimal files there, and try again?  But
the .xsession-errors very often will give you a hint in that case.

Brian


--- Matthew.Codd@sita.int wrote:
> Stuart
> 
> Are you connecting to a Solaris 2.8 system?
> 
> I have exactly the same problem on 2.8, but can connect to Solaris systems
> running 2.6 without any errors.
> 
> Matthew Codd
> 
> 
> 
>                                                                              
>                                            
>                       Stuart Gaunt                                           
>                                            
>                        "'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'"           
>                       .co.uk>                   cc:                          
>                                            
>                       Sent by:                  Subject:  Problem with
> Solaris                                           
>                       cygwin-xfree-owner                                     
>                                            
>                       @cygwin.com                                            
>                                            
>                                                                              
>                                            
>                                                                              
>                                            
>                       27/03/02 18:31                                         
>                                            
>                                                                              
>                                            
>                                                                              
>                                            
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >I'm trying to get cygwin/xfree working using XDMCP from Solaris (on
> sparc),
> >but all I get is a black screen with an egg-timer.
> >
> >It works fine using XDMCP from a Linux host.
> >
> >Using X-Win32 on the same PC works fine to Linux AND Solaris.
> >
> >Under X-Win32, when I first connect I get the black egg-timer window, then
> >almost immediately I get the CDE login prompt.
> >Under cygwin/xfree, I get the black egg timer, but no prompt.  The
> egg-timer
> >follows my mouse around, so there is obviously some X stuff going on, but
> >not quite enough.
> >
> >Any ideas ?????
> >
> >Thanks
> >Stuart
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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From jbertran@cirsa.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jbertran@cirsa.com (Joan Bertran)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin Xfree 4.1.0 or 4.2.0 with old clients
Message-ID: 

 Recent cygwin Xfree implementations work great with Linux clients
 but unfortunately I have some old HP-Ux 9.x computers on the network
 and the mouse pointer does not work properly, it's imposible to move
 or resize windows or to activate the focus by click, only buttons
 respond to mouse. (I guess that HP-UX 9.x uses Xlib X11R5 or R6)
 With Cygwin Xfree 4.0.1 (XWin.exe 4.731.361 bytes 01/october/2000 16:25)
 the mouse works but too beta. Any hint ?


 Second Topic i like this seeting for the spanish keyboard if it's of any
help
 to somebody.
xkb_keymap "es_105"	{
    xkb_keycodes		{ include "xfree86"	};
    xkb_types		{ include "default"	};
    xkb_compatibility	{ include "default+pc"	};
    xkb_symbols		{ include
"en_US(pc105)+es+altwin(meta_alt)+ralt(mode_switch)" };
    xkb_geometry 		{ include "pc(pc105)"	};
};

Thankyou,
jbertran@cirsa.com


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: ORBit install
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: O'BRIEN,STEVE (HP-UnitedKingdom,ex1) 

> Hi Rob
> I didn't mean to suggest that there is a problem with the 
> cygwin pthread
> implementation. 

There may be :}. I'm not concerned if there is or is not, but rather with the fault you see - when we examine that we can lay blame :}.

> Sometimes I get:
> GThread-ERROR **: file gthread-posix.c: line 55 
> (g_mutex_new_posix_impl):
> error Device or resource busy during pthread_mutex_init 
> ((pthread_mutex_t *)
> result, ((void *)0))

What does gthread-posix.c line 55 look like.
 
> Sometimes I get a segmentation fault

Can you duplicate this with gdb, or with strace, or with JIT debugging (see how-debuging-works.txt in the cygwin source directory.You'll need a debug cygwin1.dll for tracking this down.
 
> Sometimes the test completes ok
> 
> Failures appear at different points in the program, so I 
> can't even say that
> the "resource busy" always occurs at X and segmentation fault 
> always occurs
> at Y.

Thats ok. If we can pin one down with a good backtrace, it may make the fault visible.
 
> When running in gdb the debug symbol table becomes corrupted, so the
> function names it reports do not match the file:lineno 
> reported - so the
> program is clearly trashing memory on its way.

Optimisation can also cause that, I wouldn't assume that the symbol table is necessarily corrupt. What does bt full, and info threads show?
 
> I *think* that a mutex is not being set properly, or is being 
> corrupted when
> the memory managment error kicks in, so that two threads 
> attempt to free the
> same memory, or one uses memory that is already freed by another. All
> guesswork though, because I have not been able to trace the 
> execution in
> gdb.

Yah, single stepping with threads is iffy at best, they tend not do show the fault. Breakpoints are your friend :}.

ROb


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Dose any one know if gnome works on cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <3C971995.31330.1A061EC6@localhost>
Message-ID: 

Eli,

There is a link to the following site under Cygwin/XFree86 - Ported
Software:
http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley/1596/en/cygwin.html

The site includes instructions for compiling each Gnome package for
Cygwin/XFree86.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Eli Kleinman
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:57 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Dose any one know if gnome works on cygwin?
>
>
> Hi all
>
> I tried compiling gtk+2.0 on cygwin and I keep on getting errors did
> any one successfully compiled gnome on cygwin?
>
> Please help, Thanks in advance
> Eli


From dunkel@ScienceSoft.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: dunkel@ScienceSoft.net (Reinhard Dunkel)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Position of initial XWin window on the screen?
Message-ID: <3C4627A5.6DDAE610@ScienceSoft.net>

My XWin.exe server window is smaller than my PC screen. Using its
[-screen screen_number width height ...] command line option, I can set
its window size. Is there a command line option to set where this
initial server window will appear on the Windows desktop?

ThanX,
Reinhard


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Xlib: No protocol specified (connection refused by server)
In-Reply-To: <3c59f37f.6802.1804289383@subdimension.com>
Message-ID: 

Were you following the instructions at:

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-apps.html


If not, follow them and see what happens.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of mielikki1
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:47 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Xlib: No protocol specified (connection refused by server)
> 
> 
> I just installed cygwin (version 2.125.2.10) and xfree
> (4.2.0) and have run into a problem. It seems to work okay
> locally (that is I can start the server and launch new
> clients from my xterm window whether DISPLAY is set to
> 127.0.0.0:0 or my real IP address), but when I try to start
> a client on a remote Red Hat Linux machine (over the
> Internet or through a VPN) I get the following error:
> 
>   Xlib: connection to "x.y.z.t:0.0" refused by server
>   Xlib: No protocol specified
>   Error: Can't open display: x.y.z.t:0.0
> 
> I am running Windows ME and Zone Alarm. I get the same
> problem if I turn Zone Alarm down to Low or even shut it
> down. I can ping my Windows machine from the Linux box.
> 
> I couldn't find anything searching the archives here and
> various Web engines.
> 
> Any thoughts? Any tests to try to narrow it down? I guess
> I'll figure out what ports the X server is listening on and
> see if I can connect to them...
> _____________________________________________________________________
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From ssiddiqi@ssiddiqi.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@ssiddiqi.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: fixed font
In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2B4F0A9@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C266AA6E@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com 
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of jun
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 7:34 AM
> To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com'
> Subject: Re: fixed font
> 
> 
> 
> > >
> > > I've installed Cygwin 1.3.6 and xfree 4.1.0 on an XP 
> machine, but X 
> > > fails to start saying that the fixed font is missing. 
> What does that 
> > > mean? What can I do?
> >
> > It means you probably did not install fonts.  Did you follow exact 
> > instructions in the User's Guide?
> >
> > Suhaib
> >
> not necessarily. if the fonts are installed, they should be 
> reinstalled and 
> unpacked with WinZip or Powerarc.
> maybe this was ment by Suhaib...
> 


At least do not unpack with Winzip.  Use gzip and tar.... I absoultely
did not mean to reinstall using WinZip and/or Powerarc...  No idea how
did you come to specifics....



From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: aterm under Cygwin/Xfree
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683219@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yaron [mailto:jethro@freakzilla.com] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:15 PM
> To: Suhaib Siddiqi
> Subject: RE: aterm under Cygwin/Xfree
> 
> 
>   Hey,
> 
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote:
> 
> > X 3.3.6 had X11R6.3 libraries, the latest cygwin-xfree is X11R6.4 
> > based. Try recompiling aterm and linking to newer version of X 
> > libraries.
> 
> Should've mentioned, I did try that before posting to the 
> list. I wouldn't waste peoples' time if I didn't try recompiling (:
> 
> -Yaron
> 
> --
> 

Ok, but how about building a debug version of aterm and debuging it using
GDB?  Many times when porting a code from one platform to another, you need
to fix it for that particular OS.

Suhaib


From muller@cerbere.u-strasbg.fr  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: muller@cerbere.u-strasbg.fr (Pierre Muller)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: dillo-0.6.3
In-Reply-To: <113744510.20020108105217@familiehaase.de>
References: <2219723480.20020107155746@familiehaase.de>
 <2219723480.20020107155746@familiehaase.de>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020108110346.020b9008@ics.u-strasbg.fr>

At 10:52 08/01/2002 , Gerrit P. Haase a ??crit:
> > I have uploaded dillo-0.6.3 http://dillo.sourceforge.net/
> > to my website.
>
>BTW, `dillo' is a web browser: The web browser;)
>
> > Fetch your copy now:
> > http://familiehaase.de/cywgin/dillo/
>
> > This version requires Xfree86 for Cygwin && the
> > following Cygwin packages to be installed:
> > - jpeg
> > - png
> > - zlib
> > - libintl1
>
> > Also required (with shared libs):
> > - glib
> > - gtk+

Where do I find those libs, they don't seem to be 
loadable using Cygwin Setup utility,
nor are they part of the Cygwin XFree suite.




Pierre Muller
Institut Charles Sadron
6,rue Boussingault
F 67083 STRASBOURG CEDEX (France)
mailto:muller@ics.u-strasbg.fr
Phone : (33)-3-88-41-40-07  Fax : (33)-3-88-41-40-99


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: All text being echoed in Xterms
In-Reply-To: <20020206101610.A29383@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: 

Steve,

No ideas here.  I'm guessing it is a problem with xterm.  You can also, I
think, run the latest version of Cygwin's 'rxvt' as an X Client.  Note: rxvt
is including with the Cygwin distribution, not with the Cygwin/XFree86
tarballs.

I'd give rxvt a shot and see what happens.  Report back when finished.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Steven T. Zydek
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 11:16 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: All text being echoed in Xterms
>
>
> I posted this a little while back with no response. Anyone have any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> +Steve
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 11:52:20AM -0600, Steven T. Zydek wrote:
> > Hi There,
> >
> > I'm a newbie to Cygwin/XFree. I just installed Cygwin
> 1.3.7/Xfree v4.2 on my
> > sunpci card (basically, an Intel-based motherboard w/AMD
> processor running in
> > a Sun box) running WinNT 4.0. All the software has installed
> perfectly. I can
> > start up bash shells within Cygwin just fine, X starts up
> without any error
> > messages (using the default startx scripts) and xterms/xclock
> appear fine.
> >
> > My trouble is that anytime I try to type (enter commands) in an xterm,
> > all text gets echoed twice. So, if I type: 'ls -al[ENTER]' , I get the
> > following spewed back:
> >
> > llss  --aall [CR]
> > [CR]
> > me@machine bash>
> >
> >
> > me@machine bash>
> >
> > ---
> > I tried to determine whether it's Xwin or the xterm. (NOTE: the
> Cygwin shells
> > do NOT have this problem). From what I can tell it is Xwin
> causing the problem.
> > I was able to display a remote xterm window from a Sun box and
> had the same
> > trouble where everything was echoed. I checked newsgroups,
> faqs, web, etc. and
> > no luck. Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks for any help you could provide!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > +Steve
>
> --
> Steven Zydek
> EWS System Manager / CCSO
> University of Illinois
> 217-244-7468 - szydek@uiuc.edu


From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: briangenisio@yahoo.com
In-Reply-To: <20020111175341.75579.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Brian Genisio wrote:

> Almost all Motif widgets use XSync calls, as well as calls that are not
> streamlined for latency.  I would make a gross assumption that Netscape uses
> Motif, 

Yes, it uses Motif. There is (was) always a version linked staticly and 
one linked dynamicly against libXm. 

bye
    ago
-- 
 Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017
 4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4


From Ralf.Boetnagel@dvg.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Boetnagel@dvg.de (Ralf.Boetnagel@dvg.de)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Antwort: Re: XWin w2k xdmcp-query - no valid address
Message-ID: 


Hi,

>I have not watched the previous posts, but have you tried to start the
>XServer XFree without XDMCP? And then to connect via telnet + export
Display to
>your host? (or even easier with "ssh -X") Is this possible?

Thanks - yes, this works quite well. If there's no way to do it via XDMCP,
then this is how I'll do it ...

Ciao        Ralf




From tzafrir@technion.ac.il  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: tzafrir@technion.ac.il (Tzafrir Cohen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xterm problems
In-Reply-To: <002901c1a6a9$5eb3a580$e04d9d18@wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com>
Message-ID: 

On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Wilfred Villegas wrote:

> I just recently installed the newest xfree86 (4.2.0).I have cygwin
> installed on a Windows 98 machine.I have two problems:

> 2) Even though startx doesn't work, startxwin.sh works, and that's what I
> use now.But when I'm in xterm, and open one of the man pages, I get this
> message:
> WARNING: terminal is not fully functional
> - (press RETURN)

This is related to the terminal definitions.

Immediate workaround:

run:

  TERM=vt100

(or 'set term=vt100' on tcsh)

Gives you almost all of what you need, and is defined just about anywhere.

What is your current value of TERM? ('echo $TERM')

BTW:
The terminfo definition file of xterm is /usr/share/termonfo/x/xterm

-- 
Tzafrir Cohen
mailto:tzafrir@technion.ac.il
http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir



From jbertran@cirsa.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jbertran@cirsa.com (Joan Bertran)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: proposing a different aproach for XwinClip (but need some help)
Message-ID: 

 Hi,

  I have implemented a different aproach about
copying clipboard contents between XFree86 and Windows based on
 the original xwinclip.
 It's less automatic but allows the user to control when to copy.
 There is a windows trayicon with a menu to copy from Windows
 or from X11. As it is possible to have several Xfree running
connected to different XClients (machines) there is submenu
to select which client you want to use.

 But i have a problem when copying from windows to X11
(only tested with Kde 2.2.1) the new selection added to the Klipper
is not "activated" (so no paste with mouse middle button )
and if i do a message loop for "selectionrequest"
events, it receives an infinite number of those events:
---
XLoop new event
xevent.xselectionrequest.property _QT_SELECTION
target type TARGETS 334

XLoop new event
xevent.xselectionrequest.property _QT_SELECTION
target type XA_STRING 31
...
---

The function that performs this is "CopyFromWindows"

Below is the code:

// Standard library headers
#include 
#include 
#include 
//
#include 


// X headers */
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
//------------------------------------------------------------------


// Fixups to prevent collisions between Windows and X headers
#undef MINSHORT
#undef MAXSHORT

// Flags for Windows header options
#define NONAMELESSUNION
#ifndef WIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN
#define WIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN
#endif

// Windows headers
#include 
#include 
#include 

//-----------------------------------------------
#define MYWM_NOTIFYICON		(WM_APP+100)
#define IDM_EXIT                        1000
#define IDM_FROM                         100
#define IDM_TO                           200

#define ID_ICON_APP                       1
#define ID_ICON_TRAY                      4
#define MAX_DISPLAYS   9

//------------------------------------------------

#ifndef ARRAYSIZE
#define ARRAYSIZE(a)    (sizeof(a)/sizeof(a[0]))
#endif

// Application constants
#define WINDOW_CLASS		"XWinClip"
#define WINDOW_TITLE		"xwinclip"


// Global variables
BOOL DisplayIds[MAX_DISPLAYS] = {FALSE, };

//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
//  MS-Windows Global Vars
HINSTANCE       ghInstance;
HINSTANCE       ghResInst;
HMENU           hPopupMnu;
HMENU           hmToWin;
HMENU           hmToX11;
HWND		hAppWnd;

// Function prototypes
HWND CreateMessagingWindow(void);
LRESULT CALLBACK WindowProc(HWND hWnd, UINT message, WPARAM wParam, LPARAM
lParam);
void DOStoUNIX (char *pszData, int iLength);
void UNIXtoDOS (unsigned char **ppszData, int iLength);
//---------


//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
BOOL DoCopyFromX11(Display *pDisplay, Window iMyWindow, unsigned char
**ppszReturnData)
{
 Atom	 atomReturnType;
 Atom	 atomLocalProperty;
 Atom	 atomUTF8String;
 int		iReturnFormat;
 unsigned long	ulReturnItems, ulReturnBytesLeft;
 int		iReturn;
 BOOL GotIt;

  // Local property to hold pasted data
  atomLocalProperty = XInternAtom (pDisplay, "CYGX_CUT_BUFFER", False);
  if (atomLocalProperty == None)
  {
     MessageBox(hAppWnd, "Could not create CYGX_CUT_BUFFER atom",
"XWinClip", MB_OK);
     return FALSE;
  }

  iReturn = XConvertSelection (pDisplay, XA_PRIMARY, XA_STRING,
			       atomLocalProperty, iMyWindow, CurrentTime);
  if (iReturn == BadAtom || iReturn == BadWindow)
  {
	      printf ("From X11 - XConvertSelection () failed\n");
	      return FALSE;
  }

  GotIt = FALSE;
  // Loop for X events
  while (!GotIt)
  {
   XEvent xevent;
      // Block until the next X event
      XNextEvent (pDisplay, &xevent);
      //printf("XLoop new event\n");
      // Branch on the event type
      switch (xevent.type)
      {
      	case SelectionNotify:
                GotIt = TRUE;
                //printf("Getting Size of property of Window %d\n",
iMyWindow);
                // Retrieve the size of the stored data
                iReturn = XGetWindowProperty (pDisplay,	iMyWindow,
                			      atomLocalProperty,
                			      0,
                			      0, // Don't get data, just get size */
                			      False,
                			      AnyPropertyType,
                			      &atomReturnType,
                			      &iReturnFormat,
                			      &ulReturnItems,
                			      &ulReturnBytesLeft,
                			      ppszReturnData);
                if (iReturn != Success)
                {
                   MessageBox(hAppWnd, "From X11 - XGetWindowProperty ()
failed", "XWinClip", MB_OK);
                   return FALSE;
                }
                //printf("From X11 - returned data %d left %d\n",
ulReturnItems, ulReturnBytesLeft);

                if (ulReturnBytesLeft <= 0)
                {
                   MessageBox(hAppWnd, "XGetWindowProperty() returned 0
bytes", "XWinClip", MB_OK);
                   return FALSE;
                }
                // Request the selection data
                iReturn = XGetWindowProperty (pDisplay, iMyWindow,
                			      atomLocalProperty,
                			      0,
                			      ulReturnBytesLeft,
                			      False,
                			      AnyPropertyType,
                			      &atomReturnType,
                			      &iReturnFormat,
                			      &ulReturnItems,
                			      &ulReturnBytesLeft,
                			      ppszReturnData);
                if (iReturn != Success)
                {
                   MessageBox(hAppWnd, "SelectionNotify - XGetWindowProperty
() failed", "XWinClip", MB_OK);
                   return FALSE;
                }
                break;

        default:
                // ++ if GotIt = TRUE  (some kind of timeout);
                break;
      }
  }
  //printf("exiting XLoop\n");
  //printf("From X11 - returned data %s, %d\n", *ppszReturnData,
strlen(*ppszReturnData) );
  return TRUE;
}


//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
BOOL DoPasteToWindows(char *pszReturnData)
{
 HGLOBAL  hGlobal;
 char	  *pszGlobalData;
 BOOL     result = TRUE;

  // Access the Windows clipboard
  if (!OpenClipboard (hAppWnd))
  {
     printf ("OpenClipboard () failed\n");
     return FALSE;
  }
  // Take ownership of the Window clipboard
  if (!EmptyClipboard ())
  {
     MessageBox(hAppWnd, "EmptyClipboard () failed", "XWinClip", MB_OK);
     result = FALSE;
  }
  // Allocate global memory for the X clipboard data
  if (result)
      hGlobal = GlobalAlloc (GMEM_MOVEABLE, strlen(pszReturnData) + 1);
  result = !(hGlobal == NULL);

  // Obtain a pointer to the global memory
  if (result)
       pszGlobalData = GlobalLock(hGlobal);
  else MessageBox(hAppWnd, "Could not lock global memory for clipboard
transfer",
                           "XWinClip", MB_OK);
  result = !(pszGlobalData == NULL);

  if (result)
  {
    // Copy the returned string into the global memory
    strcpy(pszGlobalData, pszReturnData);
    // Release the pointer to the global memory
    GlobalUnlock(hGlobal);
    pszGlobalData = NULL;
    // Push the selection data to the Windows clipboard
    SetClipboardData(CF_TEXT, hGlobal);
    // NOTE: Do not try to free pszGlobalData, it is owned by
    // Windows after the call to SetClipboardData ().
  }
  // Release the clipboard
  if (!CloseClipboard ())
        printf ("CloseClipboard () failed\n");
  return(result);
}

//---------------------------------------------------------
//---------------------------------------------------------
void CopyFromX11(char * DisplayName)
{
 Display *pDisplay;
 Window iMyWindow;
 unsigned char	*pszReturnData = NULL;

  pDisplay = XOpenDisplay(DisplayName);
  if (pDisplay == NULL)
  {
     MessageBox(hAppWnd, "Could not open display", "XWinClip", MB_OK);
     return;
  }

  // Create a messaging window
  iMyWindow = XCreateSimpleWindow (pDisplay,
				 RootWindow (pDisplay, 0),
				 1, 1,
				 500, 500,
				 0,
				 BlackPixel (pDisplay, 0),
				 BlackPixel (pDisplay, 0));

  XFlush (pDisplay);
  if (iMyWindow == 0)
  {
    MessageBox(hAppWnd, "Could not create a X11 window", "XWinClip", MB_OK);
  }
  else
  {
    XSelectInput (pDisplay, iMyWindow, ExposureMask);
    if (DoCopyFromX11(pDisplay, iMyWindow, &pszReturnData) )
    {
      // Convert the X clipboard string to DOS format
      UNIXtoDOS(&pszReturnData, strlen(pszReturnData));
      DoPasteToWindows(pszReturnData);
      // Free the data returned from XGetWindowProperty
      XFree(pszReturnData);
      pszReturnData = NULL;
    }
    XDestroyWindow (pDisplay, iMyWindow);
  }
  // Close the connection to X11
  XCloseDisplay(pDisplay);
}


//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
char * GetDisplayMachine(int DisplayNum)
{
 static char buf[250];
 Display *pDisplay;
 Window   iWindow;
 Window  root_return, parent_return;
 Window  *children_return;
 int     nchildren_return;
 XTextProperty ClientMachine;
 int           iReturn;

    sprintf(buf, ":%d.0", DisplayNum);
    pDisplay = XOpenDisplay(buf);
    if (pDisplay == NULL)
    {
     strncat(buf, " can't open display", sizeof(buf) -1 - 4);
     return(buf);
    }
    iWindow = XDefaultRootWindow(pDisplay);
    if ( (iWindow == BadWindow) || (iWindow == None) )
    {
     strncpy(buf, "Could not get Root Window", sizeof(buf) -1);
     return(buf);
    }
    buf[0] = '\0';
    XQueryTree(pDisplay, iWindow, &root_return, &parent_return,
&children_return, &nchildren_return);
    if (nchildren_return > 0)
    {
      iWindow = children_return[0];
      XFree(children_return);
    }
    else
    {
      return(buf);
    }
    iReturn = XGetWMClientMachine(pDisplay, iWindow, &ClientMachine);
    if (iReturn == 0)
    {
     //strncpy(buf, "Could not get WMClientMachine", sizeof(buf) -1);
     return(buf);
    }
    strncpy(buf, ClientMachine.value, sizeof(buf) -1);
    XFree(ClientMachine.value);
    XCloseDisplay(pDisplay);
    buf[255] = '\0';
    return(buf);
}

//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
void CopyFromWindows(char * DisplayName)
{
 Display *pDisplay;
 Window   iWindow;
 Window   iMyWindow;
 XSelectionEvent   eventSelection;
 int      iReturn;
 char    *pszGlobalData;
 HGLOBAL  hGlobal;
 Atom     TargetsAtom;
 //Atom     atomClipboard;
 Atom	  atomUTF8String;
 BOOL     XLoopDone = FALSE;

 XTextProperty ClientMachine;
 int i;
 char * tmpstr;
 BOOL IsSelectionRequest = FALSE;

    pDisplay = XOpenDisplay(DisplayName);
    if (pDisplay == NULL)
    {
     MessageBox(hAppWnd, "Could not open display", "XWinClip", MB_OK);
     return;
    }

    // Create a messaging window
    iMyWindow = XCreateSimpleWindow (pDisplay,
				 RootWindow (pDisplay, 0),
				 1, 1,
				 500, 500,
				 0,
				 BlackPixel (pDisplay, 0),
				 BlackPixel (pDisplay, 0));

    if (iMyWindow == 0)
    {
      MessageBox(hAppWnd, "Could not create a X11 window", "XWinClip",
MB_OK);
    }
    XSelectInput (pDisplay, iMyWindow, StructureNotifyMask+ExposureMask);
    XFlush (pDisplay);

    atomUTF8String = XInternAtom (pDisplay, "UTF8_STRING", False);
    if (atomUTF8String == None)
    {
      printf ("Could not create UTF8_STRING atom\n");
    }

    TargetsAtom = XInternAtom(pDisplay, "TARGETS", False);
    if (TargetsAtom == None)
    {
         printf ("Could not create TARGETS atom\n");
         // return;
    }

    iReturn = XSetSelectionOwner (pDisplay, XA_PRIMARY,
				  iMyWindow, CurrentTime);
    if (iReturn == BadAtom || iReturn == BadWindow)
    {
      printf ("Could not set XA_PRIMARY owner to Our window\n");
    }

    while (!XLoopDone /*|| IsSelectionRequest*/ )
    {
     XEvent xevent;
     XSelectionEvent	eventSelection;
      // Block until the next X event
      XNextEvent(pDisplay, &xevent);
      printf("\nXLoop new event\n");

      // Branch on the event type
      switch (xevent.type)
      {
        case SelectionRequest:
          IsSelectionRequest = TRUE;
          tmpstr = XGetAtomName(pDisplay,
xevent.xselectionrequest.property);
          printf("xevent.xselectionrequest.property %s\n", tmpstr);
          XFree(tmpstr);
          tmpstr = NULL;

	  if (xevent.xselectionrequest.target == TargetsAtom)
	  {
              Atom atTargetArr[2] = {atomUTF8String, XA_STRING};
              XLoopDone = FALSE;
              printf("target type TARGETS %d\n",
xevent.xselectionrequest.target);

 	      iReturn = XChangeProperty (pDisplay,
	      			     xevent.xselectionrequest.requestor,
	      			     xevent.xselectionrequest.property,
	      			     xevent.xselectionrequest.target,
	      			     8,
	      			     PropModeReplace,
	      			     (char *)(atTargetArr),
	      			     sizeof(atTargetArr));
	      if (iReturn == BadAlloc || iReturn == BadAtom
	          || iReturn == BadMatch || iReturn == BadValue
	          || iReturn == BadWindow)
	        {
	          printf ("SelectionRequest - XChangeProperty failed: %d\n",
	      	      iReturn);
	        }

	      // Setup selection notify xevent
	      eventSelection.type = SelectionNotify;
	      eventSelection.send_event = True;
	      eventSelection.display   = pDisplay;
	      eventSelection.requestor = xevent.xselectionrequest.requestor;
	      eventSelection.selection = xevent.xselectionrequest.selection;
	      eventSelection.target    = xevent.xselectionrequest.target;
	      eventSelection.property  = xevent.xselectionrequest.property;
	      eventSelection.time      = xevent.xselectionrequest.time;

	      // Notify the requesting window that the operation has completed
	      iReturn = XSendEvent (pDisplay,
	      			eventSelection.requestor,
	      			False,
	      			0L,
	      			(XEvent *) &eventSelection);
	      if (iReturn == BadValue || iReturn == BadWindow)
              {
	  	      printf ("XSendEvent () failed\n");
	      }
              XFlush(pDisplay);
          }
          else if (xevent.xselectionrequest.target == XA_STRING)
          {
              printf("target type XA_STRING %d\n",
xevent.xselectionrequest.target);
              XLoopDone = TRUE;
              // Access the clipboard
              if (!OpenClipboard (hAppWnd))
              {
                  printf ("OpenClipboard () failed\n");
                  return;
              }
              // Get a pointer to the clipboard text
              hGlobal = GetClipboardData (CF_TEXT);
              if (!hGlobal)
                {
                  printf ("GetClipboardData () failed\n");
                  return;
                }
              pszGlobalData = (char *) GlobalLock (hGlobal);

              // Convert DOS string to UNIX string */
              DOStoUNIX(pszGlobalData, strlen(pszGlobalData));

	      iReturn = XChangeProperty (pDisplay,
	      			     xevent.xselectionrequest.requestor,
	      			     xevent.xselectionrequest.property,
	      			     xevent.xselectionrequest.target,
	      			     8,
	      			     PropModeReplace,
	      			     pszGlobalData,
	      			     strlen(pszGlobalData) );
	      if (iReturn == BadAlloc || iReturn == BadAtom
	          || iReturn == BadMatch || iReturn == BadValue
	          || iReturn == BadWindow)
	        {
	          printf ("SelectionRequest - XChangeProperty failed: %d\n",
	      	      iReturn);
	        }
              // Release the clipboard data
              GlobalUnlock(hGlobal);
              pszGlobalData = NULL;
              CloseClipboard();

	      // Setup selection notify xevent
	      eventSelection.type = SelectionNotify;
	      eventSelection.send_event = True;
	      eventSelection.display   = pDisplay;
	      eventSelection.requestor = xevent.xselectionrequest.requestor;
	      eventSelection.selection = xevent.xselectionrequest.selection;
	      eventSelection.target    = xevent.xselectionrequest.target;
	      eventSelection.property  = xevent.xselectionrequest.property;
	      eventSelection.time      = xevent.xselectionrequest.time;

	      // Notify the requesting window that the operation has completed
	      iReturn = XSendEvent (pDisplay,
	      			eventSelection.requestor,
	      			False,
	      			0L,
	      			(XEvent *) &eventSelection);
	      if (iReturn == BadValue || iReturn == BadWindow)
              {
	  	      printf ("XSendEvent () failed\n");
	  	      //return;
	      }
              XFlush(pDisplay);
          }
          else
          {
              // Abort if invalid target type
              XLoopDone = TRUE;
              printf("invalid target type %d\n",
xevent.xselectionrequest.target);
	      // Setup selection notify xevent
	      eventSelection.type       = SelectionNotify;
	      eventSelection.send_event = True;
	      eventSelection.display    = pDisplay;
	      eventSelection.requestor  = xevent.xselectionrequest.requestor;
	      eventSelection.selection  = xevent.xselectionrequest.selection;
	      eventSelection.target     = xevent.xselectionrequest.target;
	      eventSelection.property   = None;
	      eventSelection.time       = xevent.xselectionrequest.time;

	      // Notify the requesting window that the operation is complete
	      iReturn = XSendEvent (pDisplay,
				    eventSelection.requestor,
				    False,
				    0L,
				    (XEvent *) &eventSelection);
	      if (iReturn == BadValue || iReturn == BadWindow)
              {
		  printf ("XSendEvent () failed\n");
		  //return;
	      }
              XFlush(pDisplay);
             /******************
             iReturn = XSetSelectionOwner (pDisplay, XA_PRIMARY,
				eventSelection.requestor, CurrentTime);
             if (iReturn == BadAtom || iReturn == BadWindow)
             {
               printf ("Could not set XA_PRIMARY owner back to last
window\n");
             }
              XFlush(pDisplay);
             **********/
          }
          break;

        case SelectionClear:
          IsSelectionRequest = FALSE;
          printf("SelectionClear message handler\n");
          break;
        default:
          IsSelectionRequest = FALSE;
          printf("default message handler\n");
          break;
      } // case
   }  // while

   XDestroyWindow(pDisplay, iMyWindow);
   XCloseDisplay(pDisplay);
}

//---------------------------------------------------------

//---------------------------------------------
// * Change \n to \r\n.  Reallocate string if necessary.
// ---------------------------------------------
void UNIXtoDOS (unsigned char **ppszData, int iLength)
{
  int			iNewlineCount = 0;
  unsigned char		*pszSrc = *ppszData;
  unsigned char		*pszEnd = pszSrc + iLength;
  unsigned char		*pszDest = NULL, *pszDestBegin = NULL;

#if 0
  printf ("UNIXtoDOS () - Original data:\n%s\n", *ppszData);
#endif

  // Count \n characters without leading \r */
  while (pszSrc < pszEnd)
    {
      // Skip ahead two character if found set of \r\n */
      if (*pszSrc == '\r' && pszSrc + 1 < pszEnd && *(pszSrc + 1) == '\n')
	{
	  pszSrc += 2;
	  continue;
	}

      // Increment the count if found naked \n */
      if (*pszSrc == '\n')
	{
	  iNewlineCount++;
	}

      pszSrc++;
    }

  // Return if no naked \n's */
  if (iNewlineCount == 0)
    return;

  // Allocate a new string */
  pszDestBegin = pszDest = malloc (iLength + iNewlineCount + 1);

  // Set source pointer to beginning of data string */
  pszSrc = *ppszData;

  // Loop through all characters in source string */
  while (pszSrc < pszEnd)
    {
      // Copy line endings that are already valid */
      if (*pszSrc == '\r' && pszSrc + 1 < pszEnd && *(pszSrc + 1) == '\n')
	{
	  *pszDest = *pszSrc;
	  *(pszDest + 1) = *(pszSrc + 1);
	  pszDest += 2;
	  pszSrc += 2;
	  continue;
	}

      // Add \r to naked \n's */
      if (*pszSrc == '\n')
	{
	  *pszDest = '\r';
	  *(pszDest + 1) = *pszSrc;
	  pszDest += 2;
	  pszSrc += 1;
	  continue;
	}

      // Copy normal characters */
      *pszDest = *pszSrc;
      pszSrc++;
      pszDest++;
    }

  // Put terminating null at end of new string */
  *pszDest = '\0';

  // Swap string pointers */
  free (*ppszData);
  *ppszData = pszDestBegin;

#if 0
  printf ("UNIXtoDOS () - Final string:\n%s\n", pszDestBegin);
#endif
}


//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
//  This was heavily inspired by, if not down right stolen from, Cygwin's
//  winsup/cygwin/fhandler.cc/fhandler_base::read ()
//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
void DOStoUNIX (char *pszSrc, int iLength)
{
  char			*pszDest = pszSrc;
  char			*pszEnd = pszSrc + iLength;

  // Loop until the last character */
  while (pszSrc < pszEnd)
    {
      // Copy the current source character to current destination character
*/
      *pszDest = *pszSrc;

      // Advance to the next source character */
      pszSrc++;

      // Don't advance the destination character if we need to drop an \r */
      if (*pszDest != '\r' || *pszSrc != '\n')
	pszDest++;
    }

  // Move the terminating null */
  *pszDest = '\0';
}



// -------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
int main (int argc, char *argv[])
{
  HWND			hWnd;
  MSG			msg;

  ghInstance = GetModuleHandle (NULL);
  ghResInst  = LoadLibraryEx(/*C:\\cygwinDEV\\xwinclip\\*/"XWinclip.DLL",
NULL, LOAD_LIBRARY_AS_DATAFILE);
  printf("ghResInst = %d\n", ghResInst);

  // Create Windows messaging window
  hWnd = CreateMessagingWindow();

  // Loop for Windows events
  // Acquire and dispatch messages until a WM_QUIT message is received.
  while (GetMessage(&msg, NULL, 0, 0))
  {
            TranslateMessage(&msg);
            DispatchMessage(&msg);
  }

  ////printf("Exiting xwinclip\n");
  CreateTrayIcon(hWnd, NIM_DELETE, 0, NULL, NULL);
  FreeLibrary(ghResInst);
  UnregisterClass(WINDOW_CLASS, ghInstance);

  return 0;
}


//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
// supported only local Displays from 0 to 9
//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
int SelectDir(const struct dirent * current)
{
         //(strlen(current->d_name) <= 2) &&
 return (
         (current->d_name[0] == 'X') &&
         (current->d_name[1] >= '0') &&
         (current->d_name[1] <= '9') &&
         (current->d_name[2] == '\0')
        );
}


//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
// to find displays
//---     /tpm/.X11-unix/X0  .. X4 .. Xn
//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
void RebuildTrayMenus(void)
{
 char buf[260];
 struct dirent **namelist;
 int i, n;

  for (i = 0; i < ARRAYSIZE(DisplayIds); i++)
  {
    if (DisplayIds[i])
    {
      DeleteMenu(hmToWin, 0, MF_BYPOSITION);
      DeleteMenu(hmToX11, 0, MF_BYPOSITION);
    }
  }

  i = scandir("/tmp/.X11-unix/", &namelist, SelectDir, alphasort);
  if (i < 0)
        printf("error scandir\n");
  else
  {
    bzero( (void *)DisplayIds, sizeof(DisplayIds));
    while (i--)
    {
      int n = namelist[i]->d_name[1] - '0';
      DisplayIds[n] = TRUE;
      /////////printf("%s\n", namelist[i]->d_name);
      free(namelist[i]);
    }
    free(namelist);
  }

  for (i = 0; i < ARRAYSIZE(DisplayIds); i++)
  {
    if (DisplayIds[i])
    {
      char * MachineName = GetDisplayMachine(i);
      sprintf(buf, "From %d (%s)", i, MachineName);
      AppendMenu(hmToWin, MF_ENABLED | MF_STRING, IDM_FROM + i, buf);
      sprintf(buf, "To %d (%s)", i, MachineName);
      AppendMenu(hmToX11, MF_ENABLED | MF_STRING, IDM_TO + i, buf);
    }
  }
}



//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
LRESULT CALLBACK WindowProc (HWND hWnd, UINT uMessage, WPARAM wParam, LPARAM
lParam)
{
 static BOOL bShowing = TRUE;
 POINT Point;
 int CommandId;
    // cases for application messages
    switch (uMessage)
    {
        // command from application menu
        case WM_COMMAND:
            //use the GET_WM_COMMAND macro to unpack the commnad
            CommandId = GET_WM_COMMAND_ID(wParam, lParam);
            if ( (CommandId >= IDM_FROM) && (CommandId < IDM_FROM +
MAX_DISPLAYS) )
            {
                 // Copy From X11
                 char dispName[8];
                 sprintf(dispName, ":%d.0", CommandId - IDM_FROM);
                 CopyFromX11(dispName);
                 //printf("Done Copy From X11 %d\n", CommandId);
            }
            else if ( (CommandId >= IDM_TO) && (CommandId < IDM_TO +
MAX_DISPLAYS) )
            {
                // Copy To X11
                char dispName[8];
                sprintf(dispName, ":%d.0", CommandId - IDM_TO);
                CopyFromWindows(dispName);
                //printf("Done Copy To X11 %d\n", CommandId);
            }
            else if (CommandId == IDM_EXIT)
            {
               DestroyWindow(hWnd);
            }
            else
            {
               return DefWindowProc(hWnd, uMessage, wParam, lParam);
            }
            break;

	case MYWM_NOTIFYICON:
		switch (lParam)
		{
		case WM_LBUTTONDBLCLK:
                        if (bShowing)
                        {
			        ShowWindow(hWnd, SW_HIDE);
                        }
                        else
                        {
			        ShowWindow(hWnd, SW_SHOW);
			        SetForegroundWindow(hWnd);	// make us come to the front
                        }
                        bShowing = !bShowing;
			break;

		/*case WM_LBUTTONDOWN:
			switch (wParam)
			{
			}
			break; */

                case WM_RBUTTONDOWN:
                        RebuildTrayMenus();
                        DrawMenuBar(hWnd);
			break;

		case WM_RBUTTONUP:
                        GetCursorPos(&Point);
                        if ( !TrackPopupMenuEx(hPopupMnu,
                            /*TPM_RIGHTBUTTON |*/ TPM_RIGHTALIGN,	//
screen-position and mouse-button flags
                            Point.x, Point.y, hWnd, NULL)	// points to RECT
that specifies no-dismissal area
                         ) printf("popup menu failed at X:%d, Y:%d\n",
Point.x, Point.y);
		        break;

		default:
			break;
		}
		break;

        case WM_DESTROY:  // message: window being destroyed
            PostQuitMessage(0);
            break;

        default:          // Passes it on if unproccessed
            return DefWindowProc(hWnd, uMessage, wParam, lParam);
    }
    return 0;
}

//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------
//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
BOOL CreateTrayIcon(HWND hWnd, DWORD dwMessage, UINT uID, HICON hIcon, PSTR
pszTip)
{
 BOOL res;
 NOTIFYICONDATA tnd;

	tnd.cbSize		= sizeof(NOTIFYICONDATA);
	tnd.hWnd		= hWnd;
	tnd.uID			= uID;

	tnd.uFlags		= NIF_MESSAGE|NIF_ICON|NIF_TIP;
	tnd.uCallbackMessage	= MYWM_NOTIFYICON;
	tnd.hIcon		= hIcon;
	if (pszTip)
	{
		lstrcpyn(tnd.szTip, pszTip, sizeof(tnd.szTip));
	}
	else
	{
		tnd.szTip[0] = '\0';
	}
	res = Shell_NotifyIcon(dwMessage, &tnd);

	return res;
}


//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
void CreateTrayMenu(void)
{
  hPopupMnu = CreatePopupMenu();
  hmToWin = CreatePopupMenu();
  hmToX11 = CreatePopupMenu();
  AppendMenu(hPopupMnu, MF_ENABLED | MF_POPUP | MF_STRING, (UINT)hmToWin,
"Copy TO Windows");
  AppendMenu(hPopupMnu, MF_ENABLED | MF_POPUP | MF_STRING, (UINT)hmToX11,
"Copy TO X11");
  AppendMenu(hPopupMnu, MF_SEPARATOR, 0, NULL);
  AppendMenu(hPopupMnu, MF_ENABLED | MF_STRING, IDM_EXIT, "Exit (Alt+F4)");
}

//--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
HWND CreateMessagingWindow(void)
{
 WNDCLASS  wc;
 HICON hIconApp;
 HICON hIconTray;

  hIconApp  = (HICON)LoadImage(ghResInst, MAKEINTRESOURCE(ID_ICON_APP),
IMAGE_ICON, 16, 16, 0);
  hIconTray = (HICON)LoadImage(ghResInst, MAKEINTRESOURCE(ID_ICON_TRAY),
IMAGE_ICON, 16, 16, 0);
  //printf("hIconApp = %d\n", hIconApp);
  //printf("hIconTray = %d\n", hIconTray);

  CreateTrayMenu();
  //printf("hPopupMnu %d\n", hPopupMnu);

  // Setup our window class */
  wc.style = CS_HREDRAW | CS_VREDRAW;
  wc.lpfnWndProc = WindowProc;
  wc.cbClsExtra = 0;
  wc.cbWndExtra = 0;
  wc.hInstance = ghInstance;
  wc.hIcon = hIconApp;
  wc.hCursor = 0;
  wc.hbrBackground = (HBRUSH) GetStockObject (WHITE_BRUSH);
  wc.lpszMenuName = NULL;
  wc.lpszClassName = WINDOW_CLASS;
  RegisterClass (&wc);

  // Create the window
  hAppWnd = CreateWindowExA (0,	// Extended styles
			  WINDOW_CLASS,		// Class name
			  WINDOW_TITLE,		// Window name
			  WS_OVERLAPPED,	// Not visible anyway
			  CW_USEDEFAULT,	// Horizontal position
			  CW_USEDEFAULT,	// Vertical position
			  50,	// Right edge   CW_USEDEFAULT
			  50,	// Bottom edge CW_USEDEFAULT
			  (HWND) NULL,		// No parent or owner window
			  (HMENU) NULL,		// No menu
			  ghInstance,// Instance handle
			  NULL);		// ScreenPrivates
  assert (hAppWnd != NULL);

  CreateTrayIcon(hAppWnd, NIM_ADD, 0, hIconTray, "XClipboard 2 Win");

  return(hAppWnd);
}

Any advice ?
			Thanks.


From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 work with Japanese characters?
In-Reply-To: <20020326.184547.41637619.edi@serbski-institut.de>
References: <20020326164144.GA6601@redhat.com> <20020326.184547.41637619.edi@serbski-institut.de>
Message-ID: <20020326194417.GD10851@redhat.com>

On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 06:45:47PM +0100, PD Dr. Edward Wornar wrote:
>For me (emacs/mew, mozilla, konqueror) it does.

xterm, too?

cgf


From atkinson@syrres.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: atkinson@syrres.com (Victor Atkinson)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under v4.2.0?
Message-ID: 

Greetings,

I recently installed Cygwin and XFree86 v4.2.0 on my Windows 2000 laptop.
My intent is to use it to remotely manage and use my small lab of 6 (and
growing) PCs running RH Linux v7.2, from my office.  I am familiar with VNC,
to the extent that I have set it up and used it for about a year.  However,
I am always looking to simplify my installations as much as possible, and
would like to maintain a more "native" approach, with as few daemons (e.g.
vnc-server) as possible running on my Linux boxes.

I have set up all of the Linux boxes to use xdm (well, gdm actually) and can
start the XFree86 X Server on my Win2K laptop, and use -query and -indirect
with XWin to connect to any desired Linux host.  This work very well.

My question is:  Is it possible to create multiple simultaneous sessions,
which are are resident in separate windows on my Win2K display, yet each
connected to a different Linux host?  As it stands now, I must use a single
server window, with which I can only sequentially log into one Linux machine
at a time.  (I can get a second window up, by launching a second server with
XWin, but it appears either inactive, or at best I can get clients to
display, but not on the session that I want in any predictable fashion.)

I have researched everything that I can find on X and the servers and client
interactions at Red Hat, Linux Doc, your mailing list archives, Google, etc.
I have also experimented with various methods of specifying the display and
screen parameters to the X Server.  However, at this point, I am frustrated
and out of ideas.

Reading over the To-Do List, it seems as though this capability may not
exist in Cygwin-Xfree86 yet.  However, the man files, and other
documentation included with the Xfree86 package seem to indicate that this
is all possible.

Any guidance in this matter would be appreciated.  (I am working very hard
on out engineers here to consider Linux as a much better way of getting our
job done that Windows, and am looking at many different ways to ease the
transition.)

Thank you.

Victor Atkinson
Syracuse, NY, USA



From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DLL liblCE.dll not found
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020222160940.GF15032@redhat.com>

On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 10:51:50AM +0100, Kurt.Bachmann2@leica-geosystems.com wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>I have installed Xfree 4.2.0,  LessTif 0.93.18 and DDD 3.3  at the the
>latest cygwin on my Window NT PC.
>
>Starting DDD causes the error message DLL "liblCE.dll" not found in the
>path. There is no such library on my PC.
>
>Is there anybody how can tell me what is going wrong?

Wrong mailing list.

Go to http://cygwin.com/lists.html and see if you can find a more appropriate
one.

cgf


From lee.1801@osu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: lee.1801@osu.edu (hongxun lee)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfree doesn't work
Message-ID: <002501c197e9$c77cbee0$928e1941@alleluja>

Hi all

My script works well on the PCs in our Lab on campus but doesn't at home
(Roadrunner).
Here is the script, named xg

~~~~~~~~~~
#!/bin/bash
TERM=vt100
export TERM

XWin.exe -query  unix_sys_IP  -from  IP_working_on
~~~~~~~~~~~~

When i run this script, i only changed 'IP_working_on', nothing else.
Below is the response when it is run at home (it took long time to finish):

$ . xg
ddxProcessArgument ()
ddxProcessArgument ()
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per
pix
el
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 794 h 546 r 794 l 0 b
546 t
0
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 1588
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winCloseScreenShadowDDNL () - Freeing screen resources
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 794 h 546 r 794 l 0 b
546 t
0
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 1588
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
XDM: too many retransmissions
XDM: too many retransmissions
XDM: too many retransmissions
XDM: too many retransmissions

Fatal server error:
XDMCP fatal error: Session failed Session 430752026 failed for display
dhcp065-0
25-142-146.columbus.rr.com:0: Cannot open display

Administrator@ALLELUJA /cygdrive/d
$


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XFree 4.2.0 on Windows 98 on Laptop SCENIC Mobile 360
In-Reply-To: <001301c1cdfb$77ea1740$0201a8c0@oemcomputer>
References: <001301c1cdfb$77ea1740$0201a8c0@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: 

| [...]
| Fatal server error:
| could not open default font 'fixed'
| --
| 
| /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi   ---->  is not installed.  ----> should

No problem, nope, it seems to die due to problems finding fixed.

Where and how did you unpack the fonts.tgz-balls??

        /Andy

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From cygwin@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygprce.dll missing from one of my friends postgreSQL-installation?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020326134108.GE3228@redhat.com>

On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 11:05:30AM +0200, mika.laitio@sysline.com wrote:
>is there any fast method for checking which package contains dll which is
>missing from the cygwin-installation?

Wrong mailing list (redirected) but to answer your question, go to
http://cygwin.com/ and click on "setup.exe Package Listing".

cgf


From david.w.dawson@lmco.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: david.w.dawson@lmco.com (Dawson, David W)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: problem with using xsetroot without window manager
Message-ID: <0C73AA5F720CD311AC2A0008C7DBA9B403BDF608@emss09m13.ems.lmco.com>

As a matter of fact, that is how it works.

It is a design feature of XFree86 (and most other X-Servers) to perform a
reset when the number of client connections goes to zero.  In your case (and
as discussed before) the xsetroot program is the only client connected, so
after it set's the root background, it disconnects and XWin resets.  AFIK
this behavior is not optional.  You need to re-order the sequence of client
starts, so that there is a "persistent" client (like an xterm or the window
manager, or...) 

	-D
---------------------
David Dawson
david.w.dawson@lmco.com
703-367-3885


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Ralf Habacker [SMTP:Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de]
> Sent:	Friday, January 11, 2002 2:34 AM
> To:	Cygwin-Xfree
> Subject:	problem with using xsetroot without window manager
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm using the latest Xserver Test Release and have recognized a problem,
> when starting some
> apps without any window manager.
> 
> For starting kde/kde2 I'm using setxroot to choose another background at
> the start of the
> launching process, which needs some time. At this time no window manager
> is running. With
> this configuration the color isn't set, but the xserver seems to be
> restarted. (The window
> seems to be closed for a little while and comes back)
> After startung twm, kwm or kwin color setting works.
> The same effect occurs, when I'm starting for example xdpyinfo without any
> window manager.
> When the end of the listing is reached the server "restarts".
> 
> Any ideas ?
> 
> Regards
> Ralf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: 8-bit PseudoColor 
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020201155005.02c38f50@mail.verizon.net>
Message-ID: 

Mark,

I finally looked at the source code and realized that I had already set the
code to use the Shadow GDI engine in windowed mode, which means that your
problem should not be happening and that you shouldn't have to
pass -fullscreen -depth 8 to the XWin.exe.

However, the problem was only corrected in the Server Test Series and in
Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0.  The problem was probably still present in
Cygwin/XFree86 4.1.0 and I know it was present in all earlier versions.

Which version of Cygwin/XFree86 are you running?

Harold


From none  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: none (=?gb2312?q?=BC=B0=CA=B1=D3=EA=D6=A4=C8=AF=D0=C5=CF=A2=D2=FD=C7=E6_)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: =?gb2312?q?=D7=F0=BE=B4=B5=C4=D0=C2=A1=A2=C0=CF=BF=CD=BB=A7=A3=AC=C4=FA=BA=C3=A3=A1?=
Message-ID: 

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??????????????3.5??????????????????????????????

???????????????????????
????http://www.szbal.com
????http://szbal.vip.sina.com  

From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Window manager?
In-Reply-To: <003701c1ad8c$11141500$1009a8c0@extrememotivation.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c1ad94$46b1ff80$01000001@BRAMSCHE>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Sean LeBlanc
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 3:56 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Window manager?
> 
> 
> I see in the FAQ that XFCE and vtwm are available as pre-compiled binaries.
> The FAQ doesn't mention where to get them, though. Also, I'm not really
> familiar with these window managers (I run KDE on my FreeBSD box, and GNOME
> on my Linux box; I have limited exposure to some others like CDE, olwm and
> blackbox), so are there any other window managers that people have as
> favorites? I see there is a KDE-Cygwin project, but I haven't installed that
> yet - anyone have any experiences to share about KDE on Cygwin/XFree86? I
> realize a window manager can be a religious issue, but I'm looking for
> something a little more robust than twm, and easy to install...

Try kde 1.1.2 on http://kde-cygwin.sf.net. Is small (compared with kde2) and is easy to install. :-)

Ralf 



From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Keyboard problem
In-Reply-To: <000001c19920$1cba0200$46e3000a@c0000fi59>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Michael Anderson wrote:

> 
> I am having a problem with my text turning to uppercase, sometimes I can
> toggle it with CAPs-Lock, but there are other times that no matter what I
> attempt to press I can not get the text to return to lowercase. I have seen
> some issues that are similar on the archive but nothing exactly to this
> nature. Is there any workarounds? Any help would be appreciated.

Most times I can switch it off again by pressing the right shift key. 
But if this does not help, you have to restart XWin :-(

bye
	ago
-- 
 Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017


From chrish@gmx.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: chrish@gmx.co.uk (Chris Howells)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Windows based app.server
Message-ID: <200202061327.SM00180@itst38.denefield.org.uk>

> From: Rasjid Wilcox 
> This will at least partly do what you want (although only for one user at
a 
> time, due to windows single user structure).

Yes, that is the problem :(

I need it to support multiple users on the network, so unfortunately VNC
isn't really an option.

Thanks
Chris Howells


From eric.chastan@netcelo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: eric.chastan@netcelo.com (Eric Chastan)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: building gnu emacs under xfree ?
References: <3C84EAA4.A2CEFDDB@netcelo.com> <200203060843.TAA24813@cts01.webone.com.au>
Message-ID: <3C85DAF5.E0936D9B@netcelo.com>



Rasjid Wilcox wrote:

> On Wed, 6 Mar 2002 2:56 am, Eric Chastan wrote:
> > Is someone allready manage to build emacs under xfree ?
> > Is someone have some tips on how doing it ?
> >
>
> Have a look at the following links.
>
> http://jagor.srce.hr/%7Ehniksic/xemacs-on-windows-faq.txt
> http://www.xemacs.org/faq/xemacs-faq.html#SEC255
> http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/windows/ntemacs.html
>
> Have a bit more of a Google.  It looks like there are plenty of people who
> have built XEmacs under Cygwin, and a reasonable amount of doco around too.
>
> Rasjid.

Thanks for your response,
My question was not realy clear , in fact I want to build emacs as a X11
application running under cygwin/xfree not as a MSWindows application. Why ?
because I'd like to have my emacs managed by the X11 window manager and I can't
use directly Linux on my computer.

All thinks I found about compiling emacs with cygwin was about building a
MSWindows application.

Eric.


From cpraber@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cpraber@yahoo.com (Raber Chris)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window.
Message-ID: <20020111141018.64988.qmail@web13504.mail.yahoo.com>

Reposting, I don't need a direct email response. I
found the WEB UI to the list archive...

First, thanks for Xfree/cygwin. Just what I needed to
do some remote Linux work from my PC.

I have cygwin/xfree and can start remote xterms from a
linux server just fine. I'd like to be able to run a
netscape or other browser from my remote linux
machine, but trying to run netscape doesn't seem to
work.

I am using the twm. Do I have to run kde or gnome to
pull this off? What is the simplest way to use some
other window manager? I'd prefer not to have to
install another wm on my pc if I don't have to.

Suggestions are much appreciated.

TIA,

-Chris.


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Window manager?
In-Reply-To: <003701c1ad8c$11141500$1009a8c0@extrememotivation.com>
Message-ID: 

Sean,

The list of Cygwin/XFree86 ports is at:

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ported-software.html

Be sure to check out Eric Lassauge's extensive list of ports:
http://lassauge.free.fr/cygwin/

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Sean LeBlanc
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:56 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Window manager?
>
>
> I see in the FAQ that XFCE and vtwm are available as pre-compiled
> binaries.
> The FAQ doesn't mention where to get them, though. Also, I'm not really
> familiar with these window managers (I run KDE on my FreeBSD box,
> and GNOME
> on my Linux box; I have limited exposure to some others like CDE, olwm and
> blackbox), so are there any other window managers that people have as
> favorites? I see there is a KDE-Cygwin project, but I haven't
> installed that
> yet - anyone have any experiences to share about KDE on Cygwin/XFree86? I
> realize a window manager can be a religious issue, but I'm looking for
> something a little more robust than twm, and easy to install...
>
> TIA,
>


From nigel@bprj.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nigel@bprj.co.uk (Nigel Hathaway)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Feature request: clipboard transfer
Message-ID: <200201290839.g0T8d4023540@jeeves.brpj.co.uk>

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From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ?
In-Reply-To: <003201c1a8bd$ad574eb0$d527a8c0@CACHAREL>
References: <20020129115059.41932.qmail@web20809.mail.yahoo.com>
	<003201c1a8bd$ad574eb0$d527a8c0@CACHAREL>
Message-ID: 

/ "Jean-Marc Paulin"  wrote:
| OS: Win2000 SP2
| How do I start the damn thing: startx from cygwin
| I am running engine 4.2.0

Any difference using startxwin.sh or startxwin.bat?

        /Andy
-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From david.w.dawson@lmco.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: david.w.dawson@lmco.com (Dawson, David W)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Problem with Solaris
Message-ID: <0C73AA5F720CD311AC2A0008C7DBA9B403BDF6CF@emss09m13.ems.lmco.com>

*My* problem in this situation turned out to be that the XDMCP session from
Solaris needed Solaris fonts which are not available by default on
Cygwin/XFree86.

I solved my problem by having my XWin use the font server on the Solaris
box:
	XWin -from "$MyPC" -query "$SolarisBox" -fp tcp/$SolarisBox:7100 &

Alternatively, there are publicly-available font conversion programs which
would allow you to convert the Solaris fonts into Cygwin/XFree86 fonts and
install them on your PC.  This is not nearly as easy as using a font server,
however.

	-D.
---------------------
David Dawson
david.w.dawson@lmco.com
703-367-3885


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Brian Genisio [SMTP:briangenisio@yahoo.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, March 28, 2002 6:39 AM
> To:	Matthew.Codd@sita.int; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject:	Re: Problem with Solaris
> 
> Take a look at your .xsession-errors file on the solaris machine AFTER
> your
> loging fails.  There is probably something wrong with your .xinitrc or
> .xsession files.  Possibly go downt to minimal files there, and try again?
> But
> the .xsession-errors very often will give you a hint in that case.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> --- Matthew.Codd@sita.int wrote:
> > Stuart
> > 
> > Are you connecting to a Solaris 2.8 system?
> > 
> > I have exactly the same problem on 2.8, but can connect to Solaris
> systems
> > running 2.6 without any errors.
> > 
> > Matthew Codd
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> 
> >                                            
> >                       Stuart Gaunt
> 
> >                                            
> >                        > "'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'"           
> >                       .co.uk>                   cc:
> 
> >                                            
> >                       Sent by:                  Subject:  Problem with
> > Solaris                                           
> >                       cygwin-xfree-owner
> 
> >                                            
> >                       @cygwin.com
> 
> >                                            
> >
> 
> >                                            
> >
> 
> >                                            
> >                       27/03/02 18:31
> 
> >                                            
> >
> 
> >                                            
> >
> 
> >                                            
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >I'm trying to get cygwin/xfree working using XDMCP from Solaris (on
> > sparc),
> > >but all I get is a black screen with an egg-timer.
> > >
> > >It works fine using XDMCP from a Linux host.
> > >
> > >Using X-Win32 on the same PC works fine to Linux AND Solaris.
> > >
> > >Under X-Win32, when I first connect I get the black egg-timer window,
> then
> > >almost immediately I get the CDE login prompt.
> > >Under cygwin/xfree, I get the black egg timer, but no prompt.  The
> > egg-timer
> > >follows my mouse around, so there is obviously some X stuff going on,
> but
> > >not quite enough.
> > >
> > >Any ideas ?????
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >Stuart
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)
In-Reply-To: 
References:   <20020320043934.GA8470@redhat.com> 
Message-ID: <20020320053412.GA29768@redhat.com>

On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 06:16:31AM +0100, Andrew Markebo wrote:
>separate .tgz? I The executable tgz's of the xfree package? I am
>considering giving it a try using them instead.. small ptoblem might
>be version numbering, can I put version numbers in the hints file?
>(the dist tgz files today is automagically built by xfree makefile(?)
>and therefore I don't want to change their name, to get it as easy as
>possible)

We've moved away from non-versioned tar files.  We're also moving rapidly
away from gzipped tar files.

My question was really to Suhaib or Harold.  I didn't know if they saw
any value in maintaining a separate installation tree using the "old
method", with tgz files.  If they did then we wouldn't be able to
abrogate the xfree directory on sourceware.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Lesstiff link
In-Reply-To: <3C7E597E.7050207@bestweb.net>
Message-ID: 

James,

Done.

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ported-software.html

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of James E. LaBarre
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:23 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com
> Subject: Lesstiff link
> 
> 
> FYI: you may want to change your link for the Cygwin binaries to point 
> directly to the Sourceforge site, as it is not obvious where to get it 
> from on the lesstif main site (it's a brief message at the bottom of 
> their downloads page).
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=8596
> 


From eric.chastan@netcelo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: eric.chastan@netcelo.com (Eric Chastan)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: crash when modifying .profile in NT and Xserver is running.
Message-ID: <3C878D98.855BCCE2@netcelo.com>

> Hi,
>
> I have a system crash that occured every time I try to modify my
> /etc/profile with my NT editor while my Xserver is running.
> I'm using XFree/Xfce.
> My dump file is attached to the mail.
>
> Eric.

I have more information about my system crash:

- It occured systematically when I saving /etc/profile and XFree is
running. It didn't occure with other files or if XFree is not running.
- I'm using emacs in Unix mode (no CR/LF) pb.

Following a dump analyze that shows that emacs cause the crash.
I' m going to post the message in emacs list also.

Eric.


kd> !analyze -v
*******************************************************************************

*
*
*                        Bugcheck
Analysis                                    *
*
*
*******************************************************************************

IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (a)
An attempt was made to access a pagable (or completely invalid) address
at an
interrupt request level (IRQL) that is too high.  This is usually
caused by drivers using improper addresses.
If a kernel debugger is available get the stack backtrace.
Arguments:
Arg1: 00000014, memory referenced
Arg2: 00000002, IRQL
Arg3: 00000000, value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation
Arg4: 80454c5d, address which referenced memory

Debugging Details:
------------------


READ_ADDRESS:  00000014 Unknown

CURRENT_IRQL:  2

FAULTING_IP:
nt!PsChargePoolQuota+50
80454c5d 0374bb10         add     esi,[ebx+edi*4+0x10]

DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  DRIVER_FAULT

BUGCHECK_STR:  A

TRAP_FRAME:  be1e7e40 -- (.trap ffffffffbe1e7e40)
ErrCode = 00000000
eax=00000000 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=e24cb160 esi=00000020
edi=00000001
eip=80454c5d esp=be1e7eb4 ebp=be1e7ec8 iopl=0         nv up ei pl zr na
po nc
cs=0008  ss=0010  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=0030  gs=0000
efl=00010246
nt!PsChargePoolQuota+50:
80454c5d 0374bb10         add     esi,[ebx+edi*4+0x10]
Resetting default context

LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER:  from 804b5d4f to 80454c5d

STACK_TEXT:
be1e7ec8 804b5d4f 812279e0 00000001 00000020 nt!PsChargePoolQuota+0x50
be1e7f6c bff74184 8189f728 8186d8f8 e2641fb8
nt!FsRtlNotifyFullReportChange+0x46d
be1e7fe4 bff654d0 8114dc88 811afb88 e2641ea8
Fastfat!FatSupersedeOrOverwriteFile+0x264
be1e807c bff68dbe 8114dc88 811afb88 8186d758
Fastfat!FatOpenExistingFcb+0x35e
be1e886c bff650d7 8114dc88 81113008 8186d660
Fastfat!FatCommonCreate+0x858
be1e88b0 8041f61f 8186d660 81113008 81113198 Fastfat!FatFsdCreate+0x79
be1e88c4 f3eab500 81374ce0 81113008 be1e8c84 nt!IopfCallDriver+0x35
WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may be
wrong.
be1e88f8 f3ea9923 81374ce0 81113008 8041f61f NaiFiltr+0x3500
be1e8aa0 80450cd0 81805ad0 00000000 be1e8b4c NaiFiltr+0x1923
be1e8b0c 8049daf9 00000000 be1e8c00 00000040
nt!ObpLookupObjectName+0x4c4
be1e8c1c 804a073f 00000000 00000000 81186501 nt!ObOpenObjectByName+0xc5
be1e8cf0 804a0e71 0082ea6c 40110080 0082eb28 nt!IoCreateFile+0x3ec
be1e8d30 804649a1 0082ea6c 40110080 0082eb28 nt!NtCreateFile+0x2e
be1e8d30 7846969f 0082ea6c 40110080 0082eb28 nt!KiSystemService+0xc4
0082e63c 77e8b1d8 0082ea6c 40110080 0082eb28 ntdll!ZwCreateFile+0xb
0082eb5c 77e8abbc 7ffdec00 00000100 80000000
KERNEL32!BaseCopyStream+0x551
0082f178 77e8acbe 7ffdec00 00834e90 00000000
KERNEL32!BasepCopyFileExW+0x5a1
0082f1d4 77e8da8c 7ffdec00 00834e90 00000000 KERNEL32!CopyFileExW+0x52
0082f200 0103ed58 0134da7c 0134da98 00000000 KERNEL32!CopyFileA+0x42
0082f250 0104cd49 31be93b4 31c2be74 1123b434 emacs!Fcopy_file+0x1a0
0082f288 0104c6f2 0082f29c 40000000 11265464 emacs!Ffuncall+0x249
0082f2cc 0104cd24 00000002 0082f310 50000000 emacs!Fapply+0x177
0082f2fc 0104849a 0082f310 40000000 1125ce74 emacs!Ffuncall+0x224
0082f34c 0104d199 01b5a988 41b5a980 00000005 emacs!Fbyte_code+0x38a
0082f384 0104cdf1 41b65a00 00000005 0082f3cc emacs!funcall_lambda+0x22c
0082f3b8 0104cabd 0082f3cc 40000000 11b5b7c4 emacs!Ffuncall+0x2f1
0082f3e0 0103ec7c 11b5b7c4 11265464 31be93b4 emacs!call5+0x35
0082f43c 0104cd49 31be93b4 31c2be74 1123b434 emacs!Fcopy_file+0xc4
0082f474 0104849a 0082f488 40000000 11265464 emacs!Ffuncall+0x249
0082f4c4 0104c3d2 011983dc 411983d4 00000005 emacs!Fbyte_code+0x38a
0082f528 0104b485 511983ac 01198327 0082f5e8 emacs!Feval+0x2e6
0082f5cc 0104884c 512c9884 1123b404 51289c04 emacs!Fcondition_case+0x1a5

0082f624 0104c3d2 01198350 41198348 00000004 emacs!Fbyte_code+0x73c
0082f688 0104b485 511982c4 0119821a 0082f748 emacs!Feval+0x2e6
0082f72c 0104884c 51289c0c 1123b404 51289c6c emacs!Fcondition_case+0x1a5

0082f788 0104c3d2 0119824c 41198244 00000005 emacs!Fbyte_code+0x73c
0082f7ec 0104b485 511981e8 0000004a 0082f8ac emacs!Feval+0x2e6
0082f890 0104884c 5128931c 1123b404 512893bc emacs!Fcondition_case+0x1a5

0082f8f0 0104d199 01198184 4119817c 00000006 emacs!Fbyte_code+0x73c
0082f928 0104cdf1 41198100 00000000 0082f970 emacs!funcall_lambda+0x22c
0082f95c 0104849a 0082f970 40000000 112541e4 emacs!Ffuncall+0x2f1
0082f9b4 0104d199 0119a1a0 4119a198 00000007 emacs!Fbyte_code+0x38a
0082f9ec 0104cdf1 4119a070 00000000 0082fa34 emacs!funcall_lambda+0x22c
0082fa20 0104849a 0082fa34 40000000 1125fa44 emacs!Ffuncall+0x2f1
0082fa60 0104d199 01199fe0 41199fd8 00000001 emacs!Fbyte_code+0x38a
0082fa98 0104cdf1 41199fa0 00000000 0082fae0 emacs!funcall_lambda+0x22c
0082facc 0104849a 0082fae0 40000000 1125fa14 emacs!Ffuncall+0x2f1
0082fb1c 0104d199 01199d18 41199d10 0000000a emacs!Fbyte_code+0x38a
0082fb54 0104cdf1 41199bcc 00000000 0082fb9c emacs!funcall_lambda+0x22c
0082fb88 0104849a 0082fb9c 40000000 1125f954 emacs!Ffuncall+0x2f1


FOLLOWUP_IP:
NaiFiltr+3500
f3eab500 8bf0             mov     esi,eax

FOLLOWUP_NAME:  MachineOwner

SYMBOL_NAME:  NaiFiltr+3500

MODULE_NAME:  NaiFiltr

IMAGE_NAME:  NaiFiltr

STACK_COMMAND:  .trap ffffffffbe1e7e40 ; kb

BUCKET_ID:  0xA_NaiFiltr+3500

Followup: MachineOwner
---------



From sean@nutros.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: sean@nutros.com (Sean LeBlanc)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Window manager?
Message-ID: <003701c1ad8c$11141500$1009a8c0@extrememotivation.com>

I see in the FAQ that XFCE and vtwm are available as pre-compiled binaries.
The FAQ doesn't mention where to get them, though. Also, I'm not really
familiar with these window managers (I run KDE on my FreeBSD box, and GNOME
on my Linux box; I have limited exposure to some others like CDE, olwm and
blackbox), so are there any other window managers that people have as
favorites? I see there is a KDE-Cygwin project, but I haven't installed that
yet - anyone have any experiences to share about KDE on Cygwin/XFree86? I
realize a window manager can be a religious issue, but I'm looking for
something a little more robust than twm, and easy to install...

TIA,


From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] XDMCP and tokenring
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

I've made an patched cygwin1.dll available. Can you please test?

http://www-usercgi.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/cygwin1-tokenring.dll.bz2

And the diff (for those who love compiling cygwin ;))
http://www-usercgi.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/cygwin1-tokenring.diff.bz2

bye
    ago
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From nazario98@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nazario98@yahoo.com (Nazario Tartaglione)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: fixed font
Message-ID: <20020305221312.49323.qmail@web13007.mail.yahoo.com>

I had the same problem. When I installed Xfree, the
installer asked me if I wish update term (or terminfo,
I don't remember), if I answered  yes, the installer
didn't update terminfo file because tic doesn't work,(
but I don't know why) and the updating of fonts was
not done, as well.
So,the answer must be "no". Now Xfree works. 

bye
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From relaxedrob@optushome.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: relaxedrob@optushome.com.au (Robert Mark Bram)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Copy and paste mouse settings?
Message-ID: 

Howdy all!

I have been using Cygwin for a few weeks now and I must say I love it! I
have only just started using XFree and I can say right away that I am at
least excited about seeing xman, but unsure what else I can get from the
system (I installed it for Xemacs, which I haven't got working yet - but
that's another story).

What is the default copy and paste keys for a bash xterm under xfree?

The first thing I would like to do is have the same mouse settings in an
XFree term that I have in Cygwin - namely being able to right click on
selected text to copy and right click when no text is selected to paste.

Is there a particular config file I should create/edit to allow this?

Bash is my xterm of choice.


Rob

:)
:-}
;->


From keh112@york.ac.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: keh112@york.ac.uk (Kirsty Hollingworth)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Wierd keymappings and missing Meta
Message-ID: 

I have installed Cygwin/Xfree86 according to the instructions.  As I live
in the UK I got hold of a Xmodmap for the keymappings.  I tried running

%  xmodmap Xmodmap.uk

where Xmodmap.uk is the mapping file from a bash prompt.  I now get rather
wierd behaviour.  In bash windows (and in xterms running telnet to a linux
box) I find that shift-3 sends #CTRL-M so that # is entered to the prompt.
Also my backspace key prints a ~.  CTRL-H still backspaces though.
However in xedit everthing works fine.  Backspace backspaces and shift-3
prints a pound sign.  Any suggestions?  

On a similar note (and possibly related) I can't seem to work out what my
Meta key in Xedit is.  I've tried pressing the ESC key and sending CTRL-],
CTRL-[ and CTRL-@ before the other keypress.  I don't make use of anything
else that needs a Meta key so I haven't tried anything else.  This didn't
work before I got hold of a keymapping file and it doesn't work
afterwards.

Any help would be very much appreciated - I only really use cygwin/xfree
as an X display but it doesn't work locally either.

 ----------------------------------------------------------
|  Kirsty Hollingworth      | This space is traditionally  | 
|        |    reserved for comments.    |
|                           |   /*  */  |
 ----------------------------------------------------------
 



From relaxedrob@optushome.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: relaxedrob@optushome.com.au (Robert Mark Bram)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Launching Term
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Thank you to Andy and Eugene for their help!

>I think it should be (not "\"):

>SET TERMCAP=/etc/termcap
>SET TERMINFO=/lib/terminfo
>set SHELL=/bin/bash.exe
>set TERM=cygwin

Well turn me purple, wrap me in a curtain and call me Garfield it works!!

I thought the system translates directory separators but it turns out I was
wrong for XFree - thanks for leading me true!

Rob

:)

-----Original Message-----
From: flognat@localhost.localdomain
[mailto:flognat@localhost.localdomain]On Behalf Of Andrew Markebo
Sent: Friday, 22 March 2002 7:39 PM
To: Robert Mark Bram
Cc: XFree
Subject: Re: Launching Term


/ "Robert Mark Bram"  wrote:
| Howdy all!
|
| I am one of those unfortunates that is trying to manage Rational Rose on
the
| same machine as cygwin-XFree.

Get rid of rose.. get rid of rose.. (ehm you might notice that I am
working one of the Rational enemies) ;-) Or well, maybe.. wrap rose
into a script to, so the environment variables is only set when
you start rose, or Xfree..

I think it should be (not "\"):

SET TERMCAP=/etc/termcap
SET TERMINFO=/lib/terminfo
set SHELL=/bin/bash.exe
set TERM=cygwin

what happens if you try bash instead of bash.exe?

| When I click on the new desktop and select XTERM, it comes back with an
| error message:
|
|   Could not exec /cygwin/bin/bash.exe: no such file or directory.

Xfree desktop? click in twm menu?? ( it should be /bin/bash.exe it
should try to start ) What happens if you type the xtermish stuff in
the xterm popped up??

Its not so that you have another xterm somewhere on the system??

| Is it the case that XFree wants to launch a different bash? (I searhced
the
| cygwin directory heirarchy and found only one bash.exe though.)

Shouldn't be..

        /Andy
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From matthew.donald@motile.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: matthew.donald@motile.net (Matthew Donald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xwinclip authorisation problem with remote hosts using XDMCP
Message-ID: <00fa01c19d86$9f0a85d0$2102a8c0@motile.net>

Hi Brian,

The DISPLAY variable is set to "127.0.0.1:0"  The ".3" value is a typo.

My previous tests were showing that xwinclip always failed to open the
display.  This time, I waited until the kdm
logon screen was displayed.  Provided that the localhost was specified in
/etc/X0.hosts, xwinclip would run.
Clearly, there is a timing problem here.

I added a 30 second delay (some kludges really make me gag :-) and xwinclip
runs sucessfully.

Does anyone know why xterm waits for the server while xwinclip doesn't?

regards Matthew

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Genisio" 
To: "Matthew Donald" ; 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: xwinclip authorisation problem with remote hosts using XDMCP


> What is your DISPLAY variable set to?  I am a bit confused, since one
output
> talks about a server going to 127.0.0.1:3.0 . If your X server is on :0,
> xwinclip will never be able to connect, regardless of the authorities.
>
> Will other local X programs run?  xterm, xeyes, xwininfo, etc?
>
> Brian
>
>
> --- Matthew Donald  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > There is a problem when using xwinclip with an X server which connects
to a
> > remote host using XDMCP.
> >
> > Basically the sequence is this:
> >
> > 1.  Execute "XWin :0 -query some.host.system".  Initially, the
authorisation
> > file contains no records, so the localhost
> > has access to the X server by default.  I quote from the Xserver man
page:
> >
> >     If this file contains  any  authorization  records,  the
> >     local  host  is  not  automatically  allowed access to the server,
and
> > only clients
> >     which send one of the authorization records contained in the file in
the
> > connection
> >     setup  information  will be allowed access.
> >
> > 2.  XDMCP is used to query some.host.system, which then opens a
connection
> > to the local PC.  The first
> > thing done is that XDMCP adds an auth record for some.host.system  This
> > means that localhost loses access
> > to the X server.
> >
> > 3.  After XWin starts, xwinclip executes on the local host.  It fails
with
> > the error message: "Could not open display"
> >
> > Ok, so I added an xhost command, to explicitly allow access:
> >
> >     xhost +127.0.0.1
> >
> > I failed with the error messages:
> >
> >     Xlib: connection to "127.0.0.1:0.0" refused by server
> >     Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
> >
> > I read some more about host access, and I created a /etc/X0.hosts file,
and
> > I deleted the .Xauthority file.
> > This caused a different error.  XWin failed with the message: "X
connection
> > to 127.0.0.1:3.0 broken
> > (explicit kill or server shutdown)."
> >
> > I tried running XWin with the '-ac' command line parameter.  This is
meant
> > to open access to all hosts.
> > Xwinclip still couldn't open the display.
> >
> > If XWin is used with a local window manager, this xwinclip (and any
other
> > client program which runs on the PC)
> > will run sucessfully.  However, if XDMCP is used to connect to another
> > system, then it fails.
> >
> > I'm completely stuck.  Any help would be very appreciated.
> >
> > regards Matthew
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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From slod@isd.dp.ua  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: slod@isd.dp.ua (Sergei Lodyagin)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfs under Win2k
References: 
Message-ID: <3C864467.2010409@isd.dp.ua>

Alexander and Sergey,

I have no problems with starting up xfs and my /etc/X11/fs/config is OK.
I have problems with accessing this server from the X server. It seams 
like it has
predefined font path and I don't known how to change it.

In Linux I can write the line in my /etc/X11/XF86Config:

"unix/:7100"

to use the xfs.

My question is: how I can do it under Win2k?

Alexander Gottwald wrote:

>XftConfig? afair this was introduced after xfree 4.2.0 release.
>Before and in xfree 4.2.0 the config file is /etc/X11/fs/config
>or /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fs/config
>
>bye
>	ago
>



From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268323D@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralf Habacker [mailto:Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 8:32 AM
> To: Cygwin-Xfree
> Subject: RE: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file
> 
> 
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ralf Habacker" 
> > >
> > > There are some basic libs like qt, libxml2, audiofile and may be 
> > > some
> > other, which are be
> > > installed in /usr/local/... because they are not part of the 
> > > official
> > cygwin release. If
> > > these package will be introduced
> > > in the cygwin release, it may be changed to /usr.
> >
> > libxml2 is already in the cygwin release.
> 
> That are good news. I have seen that libxslt is also 
> released. What about xfree ? Are there any plans to add xfree 
> to the distribution ?
> 
> I'm asking because then it makes sense to add qt and so on.
> 
> Ralf
> 

I will look at setup.exe.  In December Rob posted about changes to setup.exe
code which could allow adding xfree to distribution.  Due to tragidies in my
family I was out of country.  I will have a look at it within a few days.

Suhaib


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
In-Reply-To: <20020312194635.GB8592@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

> Do you have even a tiny bit of information about these "certain
> functions" that you'd like to impart?  Or is this an even higher level
> version of the "I don't see why they don't..."
>
> I'm really surprised to see this attitude.  It's quite disappointing.

Dick-head mode detected... aborting conversation.

You should be surprised to see that attitude because you are completely
misinterpreting what I have said.  Just forget it.

Harold


From bmoore@a4healthsystems.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: bmoore@a4healthsystems.com (Moore, Billiam)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Unable to type letters in login to AIX box using XFree86 4.2.0 on
	 W2K
Message-ID: <0135721076EED111A2FA00805F0DAF5B02419A97@phobos.a4healthsystems.com>

  I have XFree86 installed on Windows 2000 SP 2 using all the defaults (no
mods to any config files for X) and can run local X programs (e.g. LyX)

when I run

    XWin -screen 0 1024 768 -query 172.16.11.155 -from 172.16.46.120

to get a CDE session on an AIX box, I get the login screen but cannot type
in letters in the login name text box. 

- I can type in spaces and backspaces and the tab and enter buttons work so
the keyboard is at least partially recognized. 
- The mouse is fully functional. 
- I can get to the AIX box through Hummingbirds Exceed so I am fairly sure
that is confgured correctly

  Everything I have found in the FAQs and web searches deals with not being
able to connect at all or having the wrong key map. I am using no key map
which I understand means I am using the default US one which should be fine.
Has anyone run into this before or can anyone point me in a direction to
further trouble shoot?


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Using XShm and cygipc
In-Reply-To: <008901c1ab36$fc0abb70$0e00000a@athlon>
Message-ID: 

Jeremy,

You need to do two things:

1) Create the file xc/config/cf/host.def.  Put the following line in the
file:
#define UseCygIPC 1

2) Follow the instructions for compilation in the Cygwin/XFree86
Contributor's Guide.


I don't recall if we decided that the Shm support was stable or not...
you'll find out though, I am sure.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jeremy Wilkins
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 10:42 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Using XShm and cygipc
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Looking through the archives I've found various references to XShm, but
> haven't been able to work out how to set it up. I've currently got cygipc
> compiled and installed, I'm trying to work out how to compile in XShm
> support - the archive mentions changing command lines, but which ones?
>
> Sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm not overly familiar with
> Makefiles.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jeremy
>
>


From epconrad@acsu.buffalo.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: epconrad@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ed Conrad)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: "X connection to 127.0. ...explicit kill..."
References: <20020326014057.65843.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com>  <3CA0641A.9786EDBF@acsu.buffalo.edu>  <3CA07145.7AB4C71E@acsu.buffalo.edu> <20020326164529.GA5061@rover.bates-haus.org>
Message-ID: <3CA10FD4.3B10E7C6@acsu.buffalo.edu>


Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote:

> I ran into something like this setting up my home machine, to which I
> don't have access right now.
> It ended up being an issue with host / DISPLAY configuration; check out
> your /etc/hosts and make sure the entries make sense. I remember I had
> to do something with localhost and/or my chosen hostname, and 127.0.0.1,
> to get it to work.

I dont have that directory.
The only host files I found are in a perl scripts folders about 5 levels under the
root.  I did not see any display stuff like you talk about in any of them.  Is
there no one who knows why I cant get my window up?

>
> I think that what's happening is that XWin.exe starts, but all clients
> fail to connect, so it just shuts down immediately.
> I ended up setting my DISPLAY to something other than the default, as well
> (try setting your DISPLAY to be just ":0" rather than "127.0.0.1:0")
>

I tried that in bash, nota.

> -nik
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 08:01:58AM -0500, Ed Conrad wrote:
> > Why don't you please re-read the original message.   I explained what happens
> > when I run the bat files.
> >
> > The path in the bat files are correct or it would not open the xwindow in the
> > first place!  You cant even open startx with the wrong path. I get the startx
> > window, the window after that and then the xwin pops up for a second or so
> > before it crashes.
> >
> > Something is going wrong when the xwindow is first opend.  The fact that I
> > can't run XWin.exe is just a clue I included because the user guide says I
> > should be able to run it.
> > Andrew Markebo wrote:
> >
> > > / Ed Conrad  wrote:
> > > | cygwin is installd.  This is a bug or somekind or config problem i have.
> > >
> > > *bonk* you are trying to run Xwin.exe, what happens if you run
> > >  startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh??
> > >
> > > Basically the problem is that the environment variable PATH doesn't
> > > contain c:\cygwin\bin, or where you installed cygwin. If I recall
> > > right the startxwin-scripts sets this, but if you want to run without
> > > them, you have to set the path yourself.
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > | > | If I try to run XWin.exe, it says that it cant find
> > > | > | cygwin1.dll.
> > >
> > >         /Andy
> > > --
> > >  The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!
> >


From erotariu@integrasoft.ro  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: erotariu@integrasoft.ro (Eugen Rotariu)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: fixed font
Message-ID: 

Hi,

I've installed Cygwin 1.3.6 and xfree 4.1.0 on an XP
machine, but X fails to start saying that the fixed font
is missing. What does that mean? What can I do?

Thank you,
Eugen Rotariu


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfs under Win2k
In-Reply-To: <3C8C7BF2.5020907@isd.dp.ua>
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Sergei Lodyagin wrote:

> In Linux I can write the line in my /etc/X11/XF86Config:
> "unix/:7100"
> to use the xfs.
> My question is: how I can do it under Win2k?

Haven't I answered such a question last week? Anyway: The cygwin/xfree 
Xserver does not support the XF86Config file. To use the fontserver you
have to start XWin with the parameter -fp tcp/hostname:7100 maybe the unix
notation will work too, but I have not verified it.

bye
	ago
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From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xdmcp login
In-Reply-To: <1013353545.1945.13.camel@fred.williams.etc>
Message-ID: 

On 10 Feb 2002, Marc Williams wrote:

> I was pleasantly surprised to find almost no difficulty in using the
> XWin -query command from one of my Win98 machines to get to the Gnome
> login screen on one of my Linux machines.  Thanks Cygwin people!!

Thank you.

 
> My question is this: when using this method (XWin), is there a way to
> bypass the Gnome login and get right to the Gnome desktop i.e. passing
> the Windows authentication info on to the Linux machine?  Thanks!

No. Not via xdmcp. 

But you can use ssh to build an other session managment. 
- Create RSA/DSA keys for ssh.  This will allow you to connect to the linux
  host without providing a password (but the private RSA key)
- start X with 
  export WINDOWMANAGER=gnome
  xinit /usr/bin/ssh -X remotehost .xsession -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin :0
    
This starts the Xserver adn connects via ssh to the remote host and starts a
X session with the local server as output device.

Maybe you have to give some extra options to .xsession or use another startup
file like .xinitrc or /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc or even better 
/etc/X11/xdm/Xsession gnome.

bye
    ago
  

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From ppayami@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ppayami@yahoo.com (payam payami)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xterm Xt error
Message-ID: <20020306131051.5355.qmail@web14908.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,
    I'm installing cygwin/xfree. when i telnet from
windows machine to linux machine then do
"DISPLAY=192.168.1.26:0.0" and then do "export
DISPLAY"
and then do "xterm &" but when i do "xterm &" command
i get this error:" xterm Xt error: Can't open display:
192.168.1.26:0.0 "

PS: I can ping from windows machine to linux machine
or viceversa.
192.168.1.26=IP for windows machine

what can i do with this problem?

Thanks
payam


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From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (James Tetazoo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Ttmkfdir TrueType font directory prep tool (binary for Cygwin)
Message-ID: 

I tried the following:

XWin -fp /cygdrive/c/WINNT/Fonts -fn "-*-courier 
new-medium-r-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*"

This got me passed the error about not finding a font named "fixed", but I 
got a  new error about not being able to get the default cursor font.  I'm 
not sure if Windows has a curosr font.  For kicks, I tried this:

XWin -fp /cygdrive/c/WINNT/Fonts -fn "-*-courier 
new-medium-r-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" -fc "-*-wingdings-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*"

This time, XWin fired up just fine.  However, I didn't get much farther 
because my window manager, fvwm2, croaked because it couldn't get the font 
"fixed".  It must be hard-coded in there somewhere.

I suppose I could fix this problem by somehow aliasing "fixed" to, say, 
"Courier".  However, I chose to simply add the "misc" fonts to the path (has 
the added benefit that the default cursor font lives there as well, so I 
could ditch WingDings):

XWin -fp "/cygdrive/c/WINNT/Fonts,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" -fn 
"-*-courier new-medium-r-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*"

Works like a charm!

>From: "Harold Hunt" 
>To: "Sam Edge" , 
>Subject: RE: Ttmkfdir TrueType font directory prep tool (binary for Cygwin)
>Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:11:04 -0500
>
>Sam,
>
>Very interesting.
>
>I downloaded ttmkfdir, ran it, and successfully added my TrueType fonts to
>the available fonts in XWin using xset.  However, I have tried numerous
>times, all unsuccessful, to start XWin with only the TrueType fonts via
>the -fp and -fn parameters to XWin.
>
>The first modification to make is obviously:
>
>XWin -fp /cygdrive/c/WINNT/Fonts
>
>I know that the above is correct, because if you drop the trailing 's'
>you'll get an error that the font path can't be added.  Thus, the font path
>command is correct.  However, you then get the "could not open default font
>'fixed'" error.
>
>To fix the default font error I have tried to change the default font with
>the -fn paramter:
>
>XWin -fp /cygdrive/c/WINNT/Fonts -fn "Microsoft Sans Serif"
>
>or
>
>XWin -fp /cygdrive/c/WINNT/Fonts -fn Verdana
>
>I have tried tons of variations on the above, including lower case versions
>of the font names, quotes, no quotes, etc., but all of them result in the
>error of the form "could not open default font 'Microsoft Sans Serif'".
>
>I'm stumped.  I can't understand why I can see the Microsoft Sans Serif
>(albeit, in all lower-case) font in the list of fonts provided by
>'xfontsel', yet I can't seem to specify a new default font.
>
>Specifying the font path and a new default font on the command line is
>highly desireable for the people that are trying to develop the absolute
>minimum size Cygwin/XFree86 distribution as possible.
>
>If anyone has any hints, I'd appreciate it.
>
>Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Sam Edge
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:18 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Ttmkfdir TrueType font directory prep tool (binary for Cygwin)
> >
> >
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > For anyone who's interested, I've uploaded a Cygwin binary for Joerg
> > Pommnitz's ttmkfdir to http://fundin.f2g.net/?download so you don't
> > have to bother downloading and compiling the source for it and for
> > the FreeType 1.1 library that it uses. (This program reads TTF files
> > and automatically creates the appropriate fonts.scale file that
> > XFree86 needs before it can use new TrueType fonts.)
> >
> > The archive also contains a README explaining one way to use all your
> > Windows fonts with Cygwin/XFree86 without having to copy, move or
> > convert them.
> >
> > Since I'm new to Cygwin I'll apologize in advance if this is the
> > wrong place for this or if the execuatable is already out there.
> >
> > - --
> > Sam Edge
> >
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> > Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use 
> >
> > iQA/AwUBPI25hjHHXnAhdFsfEQL2WgCg9lXpJAK6clNsNpm3hm51T1qFz/0Ani1w
> > doc7kt8j2qTJKHtNcmOrYY5e
> > =M4Eh
> > -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Egon,

Why are you telling me this?  I really don't care... you need to send all
Cygwin/XFree86 related mails to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list.  I will
reply to such mailings if I believe I can contribute.

Having said that... ZoneAlarm is the problem and it must be removed (if I
remember correctly).  If you don't believe me then follow these steps:

1) Admit that ZoneAlarm is the problem.

2) Remove ZoneAlarm software from your system.

3) In the event that step (1) fails, see step (1).

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Egon Phillips [mailto:nigel_phillips@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 12:46 AM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Subject: RE: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
>
>
> Thanx Harold,
>
> It is installed but won't run.  Apparently there is a problem
> with Zonalarm.
>   I was unable to find a solution in the archives.  That is
> without deleting
> zonealarm from my system.
>
> Which ports are used during the startup, shutdown and maintenance of
> cygwin-Xfree86?  Maybe if I open the associated ports xfree86
> will startup?
>
> Here is my output from the startx command:
>
> $ startx
>
> giving up.
> xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
> xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
>
>
> >From: "Harold Hunt" 
> >To: 
> >Subject: RE: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
> >Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:38:02 -0500
> >
> >You need to be following the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide instructions for
> >installation... not the XFree86 general instructions.  The Cygwin/XFree86
> >User's Guide is located at:
> >
> >http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/
> >
> >Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of
> > > egon.phillips@sympatico.ca
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 12:43 PM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm trying to install cygwin/XFree86. I have run into trouble
> > > during the last
> > > two steps of the installation procedure, contained in the
> > > following document.
> > >
> > > Installation Details for XFree86[tm] 4.2.0
> > > The XFree86 Project, Inc
> > > 16 January 2002, Abstract
> > > (AKA INSTALL)
> > >
> > > Development Environment
> > > Win 2K, cygwin 1.3.10, Visual C++ EE, Progres 7.2
> > >
> > > Here is the output from the final two steps:
> > > .........
> > >
> > > admin@BigRed@GOONMUNSTER /home/TEMP
> > > $ /sbin/ldconfig /usr/X11R6/lib # For Linux
> > > bash: /sbin/ldconfig: No such file or directory
> > >
> > > admin@BigRed /home/TEMP
> > > $ /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/X11R6/lib # For FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD
> > > bash: /sbin/ldconfig: No such file or directory
> > >
> > >
> > > Can someone tell us how to solve this problem without compiling any
> >code?
> > >
> > > Is the ldconfig utility somewhere in the cygwin distribution? If
> > > not where can
> > > we get a binary?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanx Egon.
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: 8-bit PseudoColor 
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020201040408.00ae9500@mail.verizon.net>
Message-ID: 

Mark,

I need you to do two things for me:

1) Run XWin.exe as you usually do with Windows in 8 bit mode.

2) Run 'XWin -fullscreen -depth 8'.

For each of the above, send in /tmp/XWin.log and the output of 'xdpyinfo',
which can be run from an xterm.  Also, report on whether Cadence, etc.
displays correctly.

Thanks,

Harold


From tzafrir@technion.ac.il  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: tzafrir@technion.ac.il (Tzafrir Cohen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Wierd keymappings and missing Meta
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Kirsty Hollingworth wrote:

> I have installed Cygwin/Xfree86 according to the instructions.As I live
> in the UK I got hold of a Xmodmap for the keymappings.I tried running
>
> %xmodmap Xmodmap.uk
>
> where Xmodmap.uk is the mapping file from a bash prompt.I now get rather
> wierd behaviour.In bash windows (and in xterms running telnet to a linux
> box) I find that shift-3 sends #CTRL-M so that # is entered to the prompt.
> Also my backspace key prints a ~.CTRL-H still backspaces though.
> However in xedit everthing works fine. Backspace backspaces and shift-3
> prints a pound sign.Any suggestions?

What happens if you use:

  setxkbmap uk

instead?

Some other pointers:

  http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Intkeyb/

  And the oh-so-confusing:
  http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/BackspaceDelete/

cygwin is not linux, but both use XFree and both use posix and gnu, so
there are enough points of similarity.

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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin XFree web page looks odd in Mozilla
Message-ID: 

> > Anyone else noticing that the XFree86 web page looks odd in Mozilla?
> > Maybe it's because I'm using the latest snapshot but the Project
> > Overview is showing up under the "left bar".
>
> It fails validation - usually a sign of some HTML oddity somewhere (just
> click on the HTML4 icon).
>
> Rob

Rob - The errors you reported were trivial and are fixed now; they did not
affect the rendering of the page.  I'm kind of surprised that there were
errors at all, as I usually run the validator after submitting.  I found a
few more trivial errors scattered around the site and fixed them as well.

The problem with Mozilla rendering is that the site looks fine on a 1024x768
screen with Mozilla maximized.  If you then restore Mozilla and start
shrinking the window you'll notice that Mozilla decides, at some point, to
move the main body of the web page starting with "Project Overview" to
beneath the left menu bar.  Is that a kosher move on Mozilla's part?  I have
no idea.  All I know is that you can create the smallest window possible in
IE and it never takes the liberty of moving the page's main body.

I've already made lots of changes to get the page to look as well as it does
in Mozilla... I'm going to wait for 1.0 before I make more drastic
Mozilla-specific changes.  Don't worry, I'm not holding my breath... I have
been watching Mozilla since March 2000, when 1.0 was going to be released,
"any day now".  :)

Harold


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Porting X applications using Pseudo-ttys, x server won't start
In-Reply-To: <004f01c1c44b$b8eb3c60$8ede1b3f@wamontgomery>
Message-ID: 

On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, warren montgomery wrote:

> Can someone point me at the info I need for this?
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-error-font-eof

bye
	ago
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From santhi.guntupalli@digital.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: santhi.guntupalli@digital.com (Guntupalli, Santhi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: problem - system api on winnt
Message-ID: <177E503C4DA3D311BC9D0008C791C30607253C75@diexch01.xko.dec.com>


> Hi,
> 	I installed Cygwin Dll 1.3.6. I am working on Win NT.
> 	I built the sources in cygwin sucessfully.
> 	I have to use this application executable on some other win nt
> system which does not have cygwin.
> 	
> 	When i run my application from winnt promt it is returning for
> system api return code 127.
> 	I copied only cygwin1.dll to that system.
> 	This is sample program.
> 	Implementation of copy command.
> 
> 	sample.cpp:
> 
> 	int main()
> 	{
> 
> 	int exit_code=::system("cp test.cpp test1.cpp");
> 	cout< 	}
> 
> 	I built the sample.cpp in cygwin. i got the executable. when run
> executable from cygwin prompt system api is executing the 	command
> properly and returns exit_code as 0.
> 
> 	When i copy the same executable to some other machine which does not
> have cygwin and i run it from winnt cmd promt
> 
> 	system api is returning error code as 127.  It is not executing
> system api. 
> 	cygwin1.dll is in path.
> 	Not only cp command, it is returning same error code for all other
> commands.
> 	
> 	What could be the problem. i need to copy any other cygwin dlls to
> my application?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> - Santhi
> 	
> 		
> 	


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: question about develop X Server
Message-ID: <200201050557.g055v2r27534@pilot28.cl.msu.edu>

Liu,

The Cygwin/XFree86 Contributor's Guide will be helpful:

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/


Also, I have compiled links to other documentation on the Contributing page 
of the Cygwin/XFree86 web site:

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/contributing/


There is a list of things that need work:

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/todo.html

That should be enough to get you started, if you are serious about helping.

Harold


liu  said:

> hello! Harold Hunt.
> I'm a chinese university student. From you web page I know that you are the 
developer of
> X Window System Server for Cygwin. Now I am very interest in X Server, I 
want to know
> that how can I develop a X Server. Can you tell how you do that?
> ( If you find there are some error on my sentence please don't surprise, 
because my english
> is not good. )
> Waiting for your letter  ; )
> 




From jcast@ou.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jcast@ou.edu (Jon Cast)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: building gnu emacs under xfree ? 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 05 Mar 2002 16:56:20 +0100."
             <3C84EAA4.A2CEFDDB@netcelo.com> 
Message-ID: <200203051718.g25HIbu08483@cate0-223.reshall.ou.edu>


Eric Chastan  wrote:

> Is someone allready manage to build emacs under xfree ?  

Just about everyone who's built Emacs on a free Un*x has built it
under xfree.

To the best of my knowledge, though, no one has done such a thing on
Cygwin, though.

> Is someone have some tips on how doing it ?

Yes.  Modify Emacs' configure.in file, s/cygwin.h file (not included
in stock CVS), and (possibly) source code to support Cygwin and
Cygwin/XFree.  Then, build it.  Or, wait for me to finish doing the
required modifications.  (Which may take a while; I don't /need/ Emacs
on Cygwin, so I probably won't have as much resources to devote to it
as you might.)

> Eric.

Jon Cast


From r_g@lycos.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: r_g@lycos.com (ganesan ramachandran)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cannot find xwin/xterm/twm 
Message-ID: 

hi,
  i have windows xp pro. i downloaded & installed cygwin and xfree86 as per the step by step given in the webpage. when i try to open startxwin.bat from windows explorer, i get error messages like, cannot find xwin,xterm,twm.. i tried searching for the corresponding .exe files through windows search, but couldn't find them. a part of cygcheck -s -v -r > cygcheck.out gives the following details:

Found: D:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe
Found: D:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe
Not Found: cpp (good!)
Found: D:\cygwin\bin\find.exe
Not Found: gcc
Not Found: gdb
Not Found: ld
Found: D:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe
Not Found: make
Found: D:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe

Cygwin Package Information
Last downloaded files to: 
Last downloaded files from: 8>=

Package             Version             
ash                 20011018-1          
bash                2.05a-2             
cygwin              1.3.6-6             
diff                0.0                 
fileutils           4.1-1               
findutils           4.1                 
gawk                3.0.4-1             
gdbm                1.8.0-3             
grep                2.4.2-1             
gzip                1.3.2-1             
libncurses5         5.2-1               
libncurses6         5.2-2               
login               1.4-2               
ncurses             5.2-7               
readline            4.2-3               
sed                 3.02-1              
sh-utils            2.0-2               
tar                 1.13.19-1           
termcap             20010825-1          
terminfo            5.2-1               
textutils           2.0.16-1            
which               1.5-1               
zlib                1.1.3-6    

any suggestions?
thanks in advance
ganesan.


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From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DirectDrawCreate
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:

> I basically implemented the process described in the MSDN Library and
> Platform SDK about how to check that DirectDraw is present.  I'm not sure
> that there is any other way to do this.

I now think that the FARPROC is wrong in w32api. Borland CBuilder has a
FARPROC() too. I'll ask the people from w32api about this.

bye
    ago
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From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Integrating xwinclip support
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020203165056.62426.qmail@web20805.mail.yahoo.com>


> man XSetIOErrorHandler:
> 
>        The XSetIOErrorHandler sets the fatal I/O error handler.
>        Xlib calls the program's supplied error handler if any
>        sort of system call error occurs (for example, the connec
>        tion to the server was lost).  This is assumed to be a
>        fatal condition, and the called routine should not return.
>        If the I/O error handler does return, the client process
>        exits.
>       
> To avoid the return you might return via setjmp/longjmp back to the startup
> code (and maybe sleep a while before doing so)
>     

I am not sure that would be the best programming practice... (I could be wrong)
 Wont that leave the IOErrorHandler function call still on the stack, causing
problems on multiple restarts of the server?  

Or does that setjmp/longjmp change the address of the return completely?  Will
that leave other calls on the stack?  If I am wrong on this, could you explain
this practice please?  I have never used such a technique, and I am curious.

Brian
   
> HTH
>     ago
> -- 
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From ross_s@excel.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ross_s@excel.net (Ross Snoeyenbos)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Program shuts down after trying to start
Message-ID: <001201c1975f$e827e320$4938fea9@Prsnoeye>



-----Original Message-----
From: Corinna Vinschen [mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:34 AM
To: Ross Snoeyenbos
Cc: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Program shuts down after trying to start


On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 03:21:25AM -0600, Ross Snoeyenbos wrote:
> I just installed Xfree on Cygwin following the instructions in the
> Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide exactly, and I get a message that scrolls off
> the screen about /tmp/.X11~unix should be set to root when I run "startx".
> Also there are messages about /home/username/.Xauthority: No such file or
> directory, and a message that says xterm Xt error: Can't open display:
> :0xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :0, the rest goes off the right side
> of the box.
>
> I am running Windows 98 Second Edition with all the latest updates and
> patches as of today.
> Please help!! Send reply to ross_s@excel.net as I don't have time to check
> the archives every day, and I want to install XEmacs once the X11R6
install
> is working.

Wrong mailing list.  Go to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com.

Corinna

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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: placing launched MAGIC 7.1 & app dissappears
In-Reply-To: <20020329205310.67304.qmail@web20102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

Ed,

Because Magic 7.1 only works when you have Windows in 8 bit color mode, or
if you run in fullscreen mode at 8 bits per pixel, or if you tell Magic that
you want it to use OpenGL for graphics.

You can start Cygwin/XFree86 in fullscreen mode at 8 bits per pixel like so:

XWin -fullscreen -depth 8


Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ed Conrad
> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 3:53 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: placing launched MAGIC 7.1 & app dissappears
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I got magic 7.1 installed and trying to run it about
> 10 times only got the magic window to open once.
> After that, I can't open it at all.  The full-screen
> window opens, the app window is on the mouse cusor,
> but when I place it, it vanishes.
>
> Does anyone know why windows vanish like that?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ed
>
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From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file
In-Reply-To: <015c01c199bb$25ea7120$0200a8c0@lifelesswks>
Message-ID: <007a01c199db$27109410$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ralf Habacker" 
> >
> > There are some basic libs like qt, libxml2, audiofile and may be some
> other, which are be
> > installed in /usr/local/... because they are not part of the official
> cygwin release. If
> > these package will be introduced
> > in the cygwin release, it may be changed to /usr.
>
> libxml2 is already in the cygwin release.

That are good news. I have seen that libxslt is also released. What about xfree ? Are there
any plans to add xfree to the distribution ?

I'm asking because then it makes sense to add qt and so on.

Ralf


From jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk (Jeremy Wilkins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Using XShm and cygipc
Message-ID: <008901c1ab36$fc0abb70$0e00000a@athlon>

Hi,

Looking through the archives I've found various references to XShm, but
haven't been able to work out how to set it up. I've currently got cygipc
compiled and installed, I'm trying to work out how to compile in XShm
support - the archive mentions changing command lines, but which ones?

Sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm not overly familiar with
Makefiles.

Thanks

Jeremy



From edi@serbski-institut.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Please help: XDMCP connection dog-slow
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020322.102803.74731878.edi@serbski-institut.de>
	
Message-ID: <20020325.100013.74748104.edi@serbski-institut.de>

Hi,

thanks for your answer. I'll mail this personally since I'm not
sure it's of common interest for the list.

> how do you connect to the mandrake? Via DNS names or via IP?

IP. Novell stuff (IPX) performs normally, so does ping and VNC. 
everything else (ftp, xdm) is terribly slow.

> Then the login appears, are tere any differences in the performance during
> the session?

The login screen appears *very slowly* and after quite some time.
Login, wait two minutes for your desktop (just fvwm) to appear.
Open a terminal, wait for the window, wait for the shell. And so on ...

Cheers

Edi


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: using print screen
In-Reply-To: <20020330123803.95954.qmail@web20802.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

Robert,

Actually, the colors in those 8 bit captures were done with print screen and
the colors are completely distorted.  That's what I was trying to tell you.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Coit [mailto:rc_coit@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 7:38 AM
> To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: using print screen
>
>
> I saw those 8-bit captures and they look great.  But
> what did they use to capture them?  If you use print
> screen, the colors are completely distorted and
> useless.
>
> RC
> --- Harold Hunt  wrote:
> > If you're running at 8 bits per pixel, then you'll
> > pretty much always have
> > problems.  Just look at the screen captures on the
> > website:
> >
> > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/screenshots/
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of
> > Robert Coit
> > > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 9:04 PM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: using print screen
> > >
> > >
> > > Why are the colors changed when i use print screen
> > to
> > > capture the image in an xwindow?
> > >
> > > how do i get the actual colors?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > >
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From chrish@gmx.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: chrish@gmx.co.uk (Chris Howells)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Windows based app.server
Message-ID: <200202061338.SM00180@itst38.denefield.org.uk>

> From: Gilgamesh Nootebos 
> Citrix Metaframe (http://www.citrix.com ) sounds more like what Chris
wants,
> but it's not a low budget solution I think. The ICA client is supported
on
> virtually every major platform in use today. I haven't heard of similar
> products using X yet.

Unfortunately the problem with Citrix is as you've mentioned, cost lots of
money :(

I'm really looking for a low-buget freely distributable implementation.

Chris Howells


From valeriyg@lrpeople.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: valeriyg@lrpeople.com (Valeriy Glushkov)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Ttmkfdir TrueType font directory 
References: 
Message-ID: <004101c1ca9d$02ed31e0$4902010a@gvv>

Hi James and Harold,

To see standard cursors on your X server you have to copy cursor.pcf.gz from
misc directory to yor windows fonts directory (windows hasn't any suitable
cursor font)

Execute mkfontdir to add cursor font to your fonts,
or do it manually in fonts.dir file - insert the following line:
cursor.pcf.gz cursor

Then, create a simple fonts.alias file in the fonts dir:
fixed        "-*-Courier New-medium-r-normal-*-12-120-*-*-*-*-*-*"
variable     -*-arial-bold-r-normal-*-12-120-*-*-*-*-*-*

Use:
XWin -fp /cygdrive/c/WINNT/Fonts

It works perfectly well.

Best regards,
Valeriy Glushkov

> I tried the following:
>
> XWin -fp /cygdrive/c/WINNT/Fonts -fn "-*-courier
> new-medium-r-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*"
>
> This got me passed the error about not finding a font named "fixed", but I
> got a  new error about not being able to get the default cursor font.  I'm
> not sure if Windows has a curosr font.  For kicks, I tried this:
>
> XWin -fp /cygdrive/c/WINNT/Fonts -fn "-*-courier
> new-medium-r-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" -fc
"-*-wingdings-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*"
>
> This time, XWin fired up just fine.  However, I didn't get much farther
> because my window manager, fvwm2, croaked because it couldn't get the font
> "fixed".  It must be hard-coded in there somewhere.
>
> I suppose I could fix this problem by somehow aliasing "fixed" to, say,
> "Courier".  However, I chose to simply add the "misc" fonts to the path
(has
> the added benefit that the default cursor font lives there as well, so I
> could ditch WingDings):
>
> XWin -fp "/cygdrive/c/WINNT/Fonts,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" -fn
> "-*-courier new-medium-r-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*"
>
> Works like a charm!



From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86 4.2.0
Message-ID: <20020121002245.F2502@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

XFree86 4.2.0 has been tagged and the binaries are showing up on
ftp.xfree86.org now.

Are we bothering with a distribution as per the normal XFree86 approach?
or is anyone working on distributing XFree86 4.2.0 via the setup.exe
mechanism ?

Alan.


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: need help
In-Reply-To: <5575473D4532D411BE4C009027E8C838068E6686@MASBLREXC02>
Message-ID: 

RTFM

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Narasimha Reddy K
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:23 AM
> To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
> Subject: need help
>
>
> Please send the build instructions of XFREE86 on windows.
>
> Regards,
>
> N Reddy
>
>
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From nagyt@otpbank.hu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nagyt@otpbank.hu (Nagy Tibor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory
References: 
Message-ID: <3C4FB722.C1F2348A@otpbank.hu>

Hi Harold,

I am logging into KDE on a remote machine via XDMCP.

Tibor

Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> Nagy,
> 
> Are you running KDE under Cygwin or are you logging into KDE on a remote
> machine via XMDCP?  I'm assuming that you are running KDE locally.  In that
> case, you problem is most likely specific to KDE, not to Cygwin/XFree86.
> So, you're going to have to ask the kde-on-cygwin folks the same question in
> order to get some answers.
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Nagy Tibor
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:25 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory
> >
> >
> > Did somebody observed that Cygwin/Xfree86's memory usage suddenly
> > increases, causing Windows getting slow?
> >
> > I start Cygwin/Xfree86 and 50 konsole (KDE console) in it. I see in
> > Win98 performance monitor that CPU usage is 15%, memory usage is  70MB,
> > free physical memory 20MB and swap file size is 30MB. Than I start 5
> > konsoles more and sudenly CPU usage is 60%, memory usage is 96MB, free
> > physical memory 0MB and swap file size is 280MB!!! and the whole system
> > is getting very slow.
> >
> > What is this?
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Tibor Nagy
> > E-mail: nagyt@otpbank.hu
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
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National Savings and Commercial Bank Ltd (OTP Bank)
H-1051 Budapest Nador u. 16.
Tel: 00 36 1 374 6990	Fax: 00 36 1 374 6981	E-mail: nagyt@otpbank.hu
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From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86
In-Reply-To: <716F1BFAA0C9D5119BA50002A5C8A05A55F823@nt-ohclemsx1003.ntl-city.com>
References: <716F1BFAA0C9D5119BA50002A5C8A05A55F823@nt-ohclemsx1003.ntl-city.com>
Message-ID: <20020207194525.GI1323@redhat.com>

Wrong mailing list.

cgf

On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 02:31:39PM -0500, Sosa, Angel wrote:
>	I have a question about getting a session started with XFREE86 with
>HP OpenView . I have succesfully installed on XFREE86 within CYGWIN. on
>WIN2000. The products works rather well. (I take my hat off to the
>programmer(s)). I would like to start a session with Openview. It lives on a
>Unix box running X as its graphical environment. I have read a lot the
>information that is out their but I will admit I do not have even a good
>clue on how to connect the two through an IP session. Can you help.
>
>
>	Thanks in advance 
>	Angel Sosa
>	xtended@ameritech.net 
>
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From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin XFree web page looks odd in Mozilla
References: <20020117040333.GA5586@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <190a01c19f20$e62db6d0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks>


===
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Faylor" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 3:03 PM
Subject: Cygwin XFree web page looks odd in Mozilla


> Anyone else noticing that the XFree86 web page looks odd in Mozilla?
> Maybe it's because I'm using the latest snapshot but the Project
> Overview is showing up under the "left bar".

It fails validation - usually a sign of some HTML oddity somewhere (just
click on the HTML4 icon).

Rob


From rob@chesler.absol.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rob@chesler.absol.com (Robert Chesler)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XTrap -- xcygwin libXETrap.a
Message-ID: <200202280128.g1S1SAV04316@chesler.absol.com>

The library has been provided by Harold Hunt who reports that this is a
packaging problem.

--Robert


From jethro@freakzilla.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jethro@freakzilla.com (Yaron)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: aterm under Cygwin/Xfree
In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683219@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: 

  Hello,

On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote:

> Ok, but how about building a debug version of aterm and debuging it using
> GDB?  Many times when porting a code from one platform to another, you need
> to fix it for that particular OS.

I got a few suggestions to try that, so I did (;

Unfortunately, I'm either not very good with gdb or something weird is
happening... I built with -ggdb in CFLAGS to get native gdb info.

What happens is, it does a lot of initializing stuff and then enters the
main_loop function. Then gdb pauses itself in a constant hourglass thing.
It doesn't move into the file main_loop is in (command.c) and thus becomes
useless ):

I got it to set a breakpoint inside main_loop (way to be intuitive, gdb!
(: ), and discovered it sits around in a loop looking to "ch =
*cmdbuf_ptr++;", which I guess is where it waits for me to type stuff...
which seems like a good idea.

My C/C++ is not too strong, and isn't good enough for me to know what the
heck the problem is here. I see it is waiting for a buffer to fill, then
going through it... I guess I'll try and figure out what the buffer is and
why it needs to fill up!

Any help from someone who KNOWS C would be appreciated (;



-Yaron

--


From spam@blackandwhiterainbow.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: spam@blackandwhiterainbow.com (spam@blackandwhiterainbow.com)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cancel <3C9B73F5.2050703@blackandwhiterainbow.com>
References: <3C9B73F5.2050703@blackandwhiterainbow.com>
Message-ID: 

This message was cancelled from within Mozilla.




From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X Root Window
In-Reply-To: <1013723205.875.5.camel@bridge>
Message-ID: 

On 14 Feb 2002, Claudemir Todo Bom wrote:

> Is there any hope (or if it is already possible) to have such this
> behaviour from Cygwin-XFree86?

It's not yet possible. But if you need this feature soon I'm sure Harold 
can point you to some work which has to be done in the Xserver to implement
it.

bye
    ago
-- 
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From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Darryl Wagoner wrote:

[problems with xdmcp]

Maybe xdm can give us some information.

Do you have root access to the remote machine?

If so, kill kdm and start xdm -nodaemon -debug 10

This will start the xdmcp server and print out a lot of debug information.

Start the xserver with XWin -query 

If you have no root access, you can copy the xdm config file 
(/etc/X11/xdm-config) and change the pidFile, keyFile, authDir to some 
writable files/dirs and requestPort to a value above 1024,

then start xdm -nodaemon -debug 10

The xserver must be started with XWin -query  -port 

bye
    ago
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Question
In-Reply-To: <1DD75DB3A008D311A3250008C707C5EE0A317D33@mcncmdm1exis6.marriott.com>
Message-ID: 

Chet,

> I know this isn't the proper way to ask you a question about
> cygwin/xfree86,

It's not.  Please send all Cygwin/XFree86 questions to the Cygwin/XFree86
mailing list:
cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Norris, Chet [mailto:Chet.Norris@marriott.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 12:07 PM
> To: 'huntharo@msu.edu'
> Subject: Question
>
>
> I know this isn't the proper way to ask you a question about
> cygwin/xfree86,
> but I don't even know if it's what I think it is.
> I'm a mainframe systems programmer with very little Linux an Unix
> knowledge.
> I want to start an x-session on my windows/NT machine and get into KDE
> running on my Linux S/390 machine. Can Xfree86 do this? I went through the
> installation process and started Cygwin using startx, but all I
> see is three
> window sessions inside a desktop, all showing the same Cygwin Unix type
> command prompt.
>
> Chet Norris
> Marriott International
> IR Technical Services
> 301-696-2769
>


From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: missing telnet, solution
In-Reply-To: <008e01c1d304$b7c0f290$640aa8c0@topdog>
References: <20020322203721.GM25487@redhat.com>  <20020324024635.GB11351@redhat.com> <008e01c1d304$b7c0f290$640aa8c0@topdog>
Message-ID: <20020325065921.GA14014@redhat.com>

On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 11:22:55PM -0800, Phil Burk wrote:
>I don't understand why there has been so much resistance from this
>group to making a couple lines of change to the docs.  They are simply
>out of date and could easily be corrected.

Harold has already responded here so there is only one thing that I need
to make clear: I'm not a Cygwin/XFree86 developer.  I don't have
anything to do with either the code or the documentation.

So, any resistance you detected from me towards making documentation
changes was 100% on target.  Not my yob.

cgf


From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: can't start xterm
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683235@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>

update you Cygwin, please.

Suhaib

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jari timonen [mailto:jaritifi@yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:59 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: can't start xterm
> 
> 
> My xterm (and some other applications) won't start.
> Windows just hang and i must end xterm task. Twm and
> Xclock seems working OK. I have Win98 with 1.1.8
> cygwin and latest XFree86. 
> 
> --jari
> 
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From ken.foskey@salmat.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ken.foskey@salmat.com.au (Ken Foskey)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: 6.1. A required DLL file: cygncurses5.dll cannot be found
Message-ID: <3481378521@salmat.com.au>


The FAQ present information on how to avoid this problem but not on how to
correct the problem once you are there.

To solve the problem (using the latest setup...)  go into setup, once you are at
the screen 'select packages to download', select base, find libnurses5, click in
the new column, going through a cycle, it should show either retrieve or the
version number 5.2.1.   Clicking next will download the package and all will be
well.

Now if I can change my xterm background from white so that I can read the text I
will be a happy man....   RTFM.

copyright released,  use as you will....
-- 

Thanks
Ken Foskey
Research & development
ken.foskey@salmat.com.au   -  0413 059 066



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From ssiddiqi@ssiddiqi.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@ssiddiqi.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Blackbox ?
In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2B4FA17@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C266AAB2@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>


People need to look into "contrib" directory on Cygwin-xfree before
asking.  


> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com 
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Hack Kampbj?rn
> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 5:11 AM
> To: Rick Oosterling
> Cc: cygwin@cygwin.com; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: Blackbox ?
> 
> 
> Rick Oosterling wrote:
> > 
> > "Christopher Faylor"  wrote in message 
> > news:20020307160547.GE10147@redhat.com...
> > > On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 03:34:05PM +0100, Rick Oosterling wrote:
> > > >Anybody know where to download this windowsmanager ?
> > > >
> > > >The original site is up but the download links are down :-(
> > > >
> > > >Thanks
> > >
> > > Wrong mailing list.
> > >
> > > cgf
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > Oh ?
> > 
> > I want to install it on cygwin but first i need to download 
> it !! So 
> > off-topic ?
> 
> YES !!! (And if you too want to unsubscribe nobody cares)
> 
> Somehow you found the cygwin@cygwin.com list without reading 
> the Cygwin mailing lists page (http://cygwin.com/lists.html) 
> and missed the existence of the Cygwin/Xfree list.
> 
> Since you know that blackbox is a windowsmanager you know 
> enough about Unix and X as to claim ignorance about XFree 
> here. And the need of a X client library and a running X 
> server to get anything out of blackbox.
> 
> -- 
> Med venlig hilsen / Kind regards
> 
> Hack Kampbj?rn
> 


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)
In-Reply-To: <20020320043934.GA8470@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

For now I was just mirroring Andrew's files so that other people could
comment on them.  I haven't looked at them myself.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:40 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Cc: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they
> called?)
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 11:27:18PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
> >Okay, I mirrored the files:
> >http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/xbase-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
> >http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/setup.hint
> >http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/md5.sum
>
> I'm not clear on whether these (mirrored) files are being formally
> offered for the cygwin release or not.
>
> I assume that these are just for people to play with but that will
> require a little bit of customization of local setup.ini's if
> you want to do anything useful.
>
> If they are intended for the release then please follow the instructions
> at http://cygwin.com/setup.html under "Submitting a package".
>
> It seems like there were originally some questions that are best dealt
> with in the cygwin-apps mailing list (cc'ed), where discussion about
> that kind of stuff is commonplace.
>
> I am excited about getting this into the cygwin distribution.  I wonder
> how many people will discover it when it becomes part of the main
> distro.
>
> My inclination is to just add the xfree directory in the ftp area to the
> list of directories that setup scans for files to install.  Then you can
> create your hierarchy under that.
>
> Or, were you planning on keeping the separate .tgz files around too?
>
> cgf


From gcruzicka@earthlink.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: gcruzicka@earthlink.net (Gene C. Ruzicka)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: newbie questiions: mouse and command line problems
References: <006301c1c2fd$78943da0$d72af4d8@HUNG> <1015196524.21557.1.camel@localhost2.localdomain>
Message-ID: <004701c1c353$8ca4ff90$49c1b3d1@HUNG>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger" 
To: "Gene C. Ruzicka" 
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: newbie questios: mouse and command line problems


> On Sun, 2002-03-03 at 16:50, Gene C. Ruzicka wrote:
> > i just installed xfree, and i'm running into some weird problems. first,
> > using the left and center mouse buttons to cut and the center to paste
> > doesn't work when i invoke the xterm that's on my PC .  but when i
> > log onto my office UNIX workstation from home and run xterm
> > there with DISPLAY set to my PC, the cut/paste sequence works
> > fine.
>
> although i have yet to work with the latest version of xterm, seems to
> copy/paste seems to work just fine with xterm.
>
> using winxp pro here.  believe it also worked fine in winme but am
> unsure.
>
> --
> Roger

it looks like i found out what was wrong.  there were at least two problems:

1.  it seems that some of the files, at least the Xlib.tgz and Xman.tgz at
the ftp.nas.nasa.gov mirror
     have been corrupted.  i re-executed the install script, and there a
number of files that could not
     be gunzipped.  the problem persisted even after i downloaded
replacements, so i don't think it
     was the dlownload that corrupted the files.  i corrected all this by
downloading files from the
     ftp.uiuc.archive site.

2. there seems to be an inconsistency between the names of the files
specified in Xinstall.sh and the
    actual files. one of the steps in Xinstall.sh is processing the termcap
file.  the scipt uses the
    instruction "tic $RUNDIR/lib/X11/etc/xterm.terminfo" to create the xterm
termcap file. but
    the file that was actually placed in that directory was named
xterm.termcap .  thus, the
    Xinstall.sh script generated an error, and no xterm termcap file was
generated. that was
    the cause of all the problems i experienced earlier.

was the Xinstall.sh problem a bug in the system, or a byproduct of the
corrupted files?
anyway, it looks like the system now works fine.

gene



From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X Root Window
In-Reply-To: <1013723205.875.5.camel@bridge>
Message-ID: 

Claudemir,

It will be implemented as soon as you finish it.

No one on the project has offered their time to complete that feature.

The feature has been on the To-Do List for a long time:
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/todo.html

We get about one request per week for this feature, so I am sure that many
people would be grateful if you implemented it.

Good luck,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Claudemir Todo Bom
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 4:47 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: X Root Window
>
>
> Hi,
>
> please cc: me in replies, since I'm not subscribed to this list yet.
>
> Many of my customers need X services on windows desktops, for now, all
> of them are using WeirdX http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/, that is written
> in Java, and because of this, uses a lot of resources and is somewhat
> slow.
>
> WeirdX is both a XServer and a WM, and because of this, it can open
> individual windows without using the root window as a 'canvas'. The root
> window can be hidden or minimized, and all the windows that stack on it
> appears as individual windows.
>
> Is there any hope (or if it is already possible) to have such this
> behaviour from Cygwin-XFree86?
>
> Best regards,
> --
> Claudemir Todo Bom
> devel@wiredway.com.br
> http://www.wiredway.com.br/~allgood
>


From spetreolle@yahoo.fr  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Xfig and xfree
In-Reply-To: <3C8506C5.87D1FC30@enseeiht.fr>
Message-ID: <20020305183744.11207.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com>

Install the package jpeg with setup.exe

 --- Max Buvry  a ??crit : > 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I use XFree/Cygwin without problem.
> 
> I install xfig (with
> wfig-3.2.3d-cygwin-1.1-bin.tar.gz) now. When I
> execute xfig,
> the message error is cygjpeg6b.dll is missing. 
> 
> Must I install something else ?
> 
> In advance, thanks.
> 
> mb 

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From agb@bogdanov.fsbusiness.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: agb@bogdanov.fsbusiness.co.uk (Alex Bogdanov)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: 8+24 bit display for XFree Cygwin ?
Message-ID: <3C6E6989.8020700@bogdanov.fsbusiness.co.uk>

    Hello Cygwin XFree experts,
Does anyone know if it's possible to setup cygwin XFree Xserver to run 
in 8+24 bit mode similar
to Sun Solaris one ?
Problem that I am facing now is that when I try to run package from Sun 
workstation were there
are some modules that requires 24 bit (OpenGL ones) and some supports 
only 8 bit.
    Regards,
    Alex


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: crypt()
In-Reply-To: <001001c19f7f$4d422cd0$7f6638d4@seraphina>
References: <001001c19f7f$4d422cd0$7f6638d4@seraphina>
Message-ID: 

The wrong order, it should be

gcc -o file file.c  -lcrypt  

Basically, the library switch should be after the usage of functions
in it.. 

        /Andy

| > 
| > gcc -lcrypt file.c -o file
| > 
| > unresolved linker error (crypt undefined?)

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: missing telnet, solution
In-Reply-To: <002401c1d1c1$6c49e540$640aa8c0@topdog>
Message-ID: 

Phil,

You are referring to the process of "installing that which you wish to use".
I don't see any problem here.

I can't update the User's Guide to say "install inetutils and ssh" because
Cygwin is always changes its mind about which packages to include in the
default installation (they dropped bzip2 awhile back) and I don't have the
time to follow their changes and continue to make updates accordingly.
Also, the user interface to the Cygwin installer keeps changing, so I don't
want to have to rewrite the instructions every time that happens.

Note that Cygwin/XFree86 works just fine without inetutils and ssh, so
plenty of users out there will not need inetutils and ssh.

I will perhaps add a note that extra Cygwin packages may be selected and
installed by the user.  That should at least get people to look at the list
of packages that they might want.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Phil Burk
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:49 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: missing telnet, solution
>
>
> I followed all the steps to install Cygwin/XFree from the user guide.
> Everything worked great until I got to the part about telnet. It
> was missing
> from my installation. I spent about two hours looking over the Cygwin site
> trying to figure out how to get and install telnet. I noticed in
> this forum
> that other folks had the same problem but no working solution was offered.
>
> I finally figured it out. Here's how:
>
> - re-run the SETUP.EXE program that you used to install Cygwin,
>
> - select "Install from Internet" option,
>
> - select same install directory as before,
>
> - choose a download site as before,
>
> - when you get a list of packages, click the '+' next to the
> "Net" category,
>
> - select the "inetutils" package and the "openssh" package,
>
> - continue downloading.
>
> Your installation will be updated with those new packages.
>
> Perhaps the Cygwin/XFree86 User Guide could be modified to make
> sure telnet
> and ssh get included in the installation the first time. It
> currently tells
> people to leave the default settings alone but the default does
> not include
> telnet.
>
> Phil Burk
>
>
>
>
>
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Start Problem
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

First things first: don't email me, email the mailing list.

> Thanks for the pointer, But this doesnt seem to be a
> solution to the problem!

You wouldn't be asking for help if you knew what was going on, would you?
It's not like we haven't seen this very same problem about 10 times before.

> Is there some other solution to the problem?? I didnt find
> anything else on the mailing list too. I did install and uninstall
> ZoneAlarm once, and that might be the problem! But now how do
> I get rid of it??

Your ZoneAlarm software is specifically mentioned in the FAQ entry that I
sent you.  ZoneAlarm makes some changes that it does not reverse when you
uninstall it.

You could always try updating to the latest cygwin1.dll version, as there
may have been some fixes regarding this problem in the last few months...
but I don't remember.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Piyush Kumar [mailto:piyush@acm.org]
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:00 AM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Subject: RE: Start Problem
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the pointer, But this doesnt seem to be a
> solution to the problem!
>
> Reformatting the hard disk and installing every software
> till Xfree doesnt work!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Is there some other solution to the problem?? I didnt find
> anything else on the mailing list too. I did install and uninstall
> ZoneAlarm once, and that might be the problem! But now how do
> I get rid of it??
>
> Thanks,
> --Piyush
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:10 PM
> > To: Piyush Kumar
> > Cc: cygx
> > Subject: RE: Start Problem
> >
> >
> > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-cannot-
> > open-displ
> > ay
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Piyush Kumar
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:45 PM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Start Problem
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm getting the same problem as the mail stated below,
> > > Anyone has ideas how to solve it??
> > >
> > > =====================================================
> > > $ ./startxwin.bat
> > > startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows NT/2000
> > > xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0
> > > twm:  unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0.0"
> > > xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0
> > > xsetroot:  unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0'
> > > =====================================================
> > >
> > > Other startup scripts too fail, giving one or the other
> > > similar result,
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > --Piyush
> > >
> > > hi,
> > >
> > > I just install the latest versions of cygwin and XFree86.
> > > I use a medion notebook with XP Window.
> > >
> > > I meet a problem to start the server X.
> > >
> > > -> If I try "sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh" the error message is :
> > >
> > > xsetroot : unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0'
> > > twm : unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0.0"
> > >
> > > -> If I try "startx" the error message is now :
> > >
> > > xinit : Connection refused (errno 111) : unavble to connect
> to X server
> > > xinit : no such process (errno 3) : Server error
> > >
> > >
> > > I find some thing about the first message in the FAQ but this does not
> > > help me.
> > >
> > > Thanks you for your help and your proposals
> > >
> > > mb
> > >
> > >
> >


From Ralf.Boetnagel@dvg.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Boetnagel@dvg.de (Ralf.Boetnagel@dvg.de)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XWin w2k xdmcp-query - no valid address
Message-ID: 


Hi !

Sorry for the 'Antwort:'-stuff ... corporate mailsystem. I'll delete it
manually.

>Have you the actual XWin binary from Harold Hunt?

I downloaded the files via ftp from the university of erlangen, following
the guidelines on http://cygwin.com/xfree/

>Okay seems to be odd! Why does your eth0 and eth1 do not have any IP?

The interfaces do have an IP alright, but the ls_netdev-tool won't show
them, therefore I use the -from - parameter on XWin.exe

>Could you deactivate the PGPnet device?

I deactivated the PGPnet device - I had no idea that I once installed it
with pgp :(, sorry. Problem stays the same, though.

This is the current ls_netdev-output:

OS Version: Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2
Querying devices using ioctl
lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1
eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0
Querying devices using internal function
dwAddr=00000000
dwIndex=16777220
dwMask=00000000
dwBCastAddr=00000001
dwReasmSize=65535
dwAddr=dcfdc906
dwIndex=33554437
dwMask=00f0ffff
dwBCastAddr=00000001
dwReasmSize=65535
dwAddr=0100007f
dwIndex=1
dwMask=000000ff
dwBCastAddr=00000001
dwReasmSize=65535
wszName=
dwIndex=1
dwType=24
bDescr=MS TCP Loopback interface
wszName=
dwIndex=16777220
dwType=6
bDescr=FE575 Ethernet Adapter
wszName=
dwIndex=33554437
dwType=9
bDescr=MADGE_TR_MINIPORT_DRIVER: MDGNDIS5 5.95.90
eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0
lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1

>Could you also post the "ipconfig /all"?

This it ipconfig /all - sorry, german version.

Windows 2000-IP-Konfiguration

        Hostname. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 
        Prim"res DNS-Suffix . . . . . . . :
        Knotentyp . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybridadapter
        IP-Routing aktiviert. . . . . . . : Nein
        WINS-Proxy aktiviert. . . . . . . : Nein
        DNS-Suffixsuchliste . . . . . . . : 

Ethernetadapter "LAN-Verbindung 3":

        Medienstatus. . . . . . . . . . . : Kabel nicht angeschlossen
        Beschreibung. . . . . . . . . . . : FE575C-3COM 10/100
LAN-CardBus-Fast Ethernet
        Physikalische Adresse . . . . . . : 00-01-03-... looks good

Token Ring-Adapter  "LAN-Verbindung 2":

        Verbindungsspezifisches DNS-Suffix: 
        Beschreibung. . . . . . . . . . . : Madge Smart 16/4
PCMCIA-Ringknotenpunkt Mk2
        Physikalische Adresse . . . . . . : 00-00-F6-... looks good
        DHCP-aktiviert. . . . . . . . . . : Ja
        Autokonfiguration aktiviert . . . : Ja
        IP-Adresse. . . . . . . . . . . . : x.x.x.x
        Subnetzmaske. . . . . . . . . . . : x.x.x.x
        Standardgateway . . . . . . . . . : x.x.x.x
        DHCP-Server . . . . . . . . . . . : x.x.x.x
        DNS-Server. . . . . . . . . . . . : x.x.x.x
                                            x.x.x.x
                                            x.x.x.x
        Prim"rer WINS-Server. . . . . . . : x.x.x.x
        Sekund"rer WINS-Server. . . . . . : x.x.x.x
        Lease erhalten. . . . . . . . . . : Mittwoch, 6. Februar 2002
07:02:34
        Lease l"uft ab. . . . . . . . . . : Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2002
07:02:34

as you can see, this is with DHCP on. So: I tried to turn it off - but: no
difference, same problem and still ls_netdev won't show the IPs.

Ciao       Ralf






From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Building Enlightenment 
Message-ID: 

> + _IceLastMajorOpcode

Why does this symbol need to be exported?  I need some description to put in
the patch submission if I'm going to send this on to XFree86.

Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Integrating xwinclip support
Message-ID: 

One trick must be solved in order to integrate the xwinclip functionality
into XWin.exe:

We need a way to cause XNextEvent to return when the X Server is about to be
shutdown.  The X Server shutdown can either be caused by the user clicking
the close button in the upper right-hand corner of the X Server window, or
it can happen by the last X Client exiting and causing the X Server to
reset.  The latter case is particularly important to catch... otherwise Xlib
will call IOErrorHandler which must call exit ().  You may get the clever
idea of just writing an IOErrorHandler that does not call exit (), however,
Xlib will call exit () for you if your IOErrorHandler does return.  Thus,
that clever idea doesn't work.

There may be a way to get a DestroyNotify event or something similar to be
sent to the xwinclip client, however, the following mask does not cause the
desired result:
StructureNotifyMask | PropertyChangeMask | SubstructureNotifyMask

In fact, that same event mask on the root window does not cause an event to
occur before the X Server shuts down.

I'm at a loss for anymore ideas, and I really need an X guru to step forward
and tell me a way to get notified that the X Server is about to shutdown.

Harold

P.S. It should be self-evident that xwinclip cannot be integrated into the X
Server if, upon X Server reset, xwinclip will call exit (), because then you
would have an X Server that exited upon every reset...


From roger_maillist@alltel.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: roger_maillist@alltel.net (Roger)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Dose any one know if gnome works on cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <3C971995.31330.1A061EC6@localhost>
References: <3C971995.31330.1A061EC6@localhost>
Message-ID: <1016567643.2714.2.camel@localhost2.localdomain>

(sorry list. @#$@#$ email headers don't auto-insert
cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com into the cc: on reply!)

On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 10:57, Eli Kleinman wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> I tried compiling gtk+2.0 on cygwin and I keep on getting errors 
i have yet to try to compile gtk+2.0 on my cygwin install.  you might be
missing libs/includes.

please post the errors as well. (ie, the last compiler output line that
includes the beginning of the line "g++" or "gcc" ,etc

> did 
> any one successfully compiled gnome on cygwin?
> 
yes. i have blackbox compiled on my cgywin install and and it compiled
nicely. you can find blackbox on www.sf.net

also, a guy has a website up with a detailed journal/log of his install
of allot of gnome related packages.

do a search on www.google.com

cygwin > gnome

i don't have the link here at hand, but the site contains about 20-30
packages that he attempted to compile & install.
(as i send this copy to the list, i see that somebody has provided you
with the url. keep that url handy...it's a great site!)

> Please help, Thanks in advance
> Eli
-- 
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From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: questions
In-Reply-To: <25176.1012837425@www25.gmx.net>
References: 
	<25176.1012837425@www25.gmx.net>
Message-ID: 

/ Darko.Palic@gmx.de wrote:
| Hi,
| 
| your first question could be answerd easily, AFAIK there is no way to do it
| with XFree. On the list have been some discussions about the native MS window

[...]

Not yet.. not yet.. what is left is that someone sits down and does
the hard work :-)

        /Andy

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xwinclip authorisation problem with remote hosts using XDMCP
In-Reply-To: <000b01c19d2d$b90164d0$2102a8c0@motile.net>
Message-ID: 

On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Matthew Donald wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> There is a problem when using xwinclip with an X server which connects to a
> remote host using XDMCP.
> 
> Basically the sequence is this:
> 
> 1.  Execute "XWin :0 -query some.host.system".  Initially, the authorisation
> file contains no records, so the localhost
> has access to the X server by default.  I quote from the Xserver man page:
> 
>     If this file contains  any  authorization  records,  the
>     local  host  is  not  automatically  allowed access to the server, and
> only clients
>     which send one of the authorization records contained in the file in the
> connection
>     setup  information  will be allowed access.
> 
> 2.  XDMCP is used to query some.host.system, which then opens a connection
> to the local PC.  The first
> thing done is that XDMCP adds an auth record for some.host.system  This
> means that localhost loses access
> to the X server.
> 
> 3.  After XWin starts, xwinclip executes on the local host.  It fails with
> the error message: "Could not open display"
> 
> Ok, so I added an xhost command, to explicitly allow access:
> 
>     xhost +127.0.0.1

This is wrong. 127.0.0.1 is the ip adress for localhost. On every computer,
127.0.0.1 points to itself. Say you have a windows host with ip 192.168.26.201
and a unix host with ip 192.168.26.202, they can only communicate with these
ip adresses. Connecting 127.0.0.1 from the windows host will connect to the 
windows host and connecting 127.0.0.1 from the unix host will connect to the 
unix host. 

The correct way is to run xhost windows.host.ip and xwinclip -display 
windows.host.ip:0

> 
> to 127.0.0.1:3.0 broken

Why are you connecting to display 3? this should be 127.0.0.1:0

bye
	ago
-- 
 Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017


From nik@bates-haus.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nik@bates-haus.org (Nikolaus Bates-Haus)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: "X connection to 127.0. ...explicit kill..."
In-Reply-To: <3CA07145.7AB4C71E@acsu.buffalo.edu>
References: <20020326014057.65843.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com>  <3CA0641A.9786EDBF@acsu.buffalo.edu>  <3CA07145.7AB4C71E@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Message-ID: <20020326164529.GA5061@rover.bates-haus.org>

I ran into something like this setting up my home machine, to which I
don't have access right now.
It ended up being an issue with host / DISPLAY configuration; check out
your /etc/hosts and make sure the entries make sense. I remember I had
to do something with localhost and/or my chosen hostname, and 127.0.0.1,
to get it to work.
I think that what's happening is that XWin.exe starts, but all clients
fail to connect, so it just shuts down immediately.
I ended up setting my DISPLAY to something other than the default, as well
(try setting your DISPLAY to be just ":0" rather than "127.0.0.1:0")

-nik

On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 08:01:58AM -0500, Ed Conrad wrote:
> Why don't you please re-read the original message.   I explained what happens
> when I run the bat files.
> 
> The path in the bat files are correct or it would not open the xwindow in the
> first place!  You cant even open startx with the wrong path. I get the startx
> window, the window after that and then the xwin pops up for a second or so
> before it crashes.
> 
> Something is going wrong when the xwindow is first opend.  The fact that I
> can't run XWin.exe is just a clue I included because the user guide says I
> should be able to run it.
> Andrew Markebo wrote:
> 
> > / Ed Conrad  wrote:
> > | cygwin is installd.  This is a bug or somekind or config problem i have.
> >
> > *bonk* you are trying to run Xwin.exe, what happens if you run
> >  startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh??
> >
> > Basically the problem is that the environment variable PATH doesn't
> > contain c:\cygwin\bin, or where you installed cygwin. If I recall
> > right the startxwin-scripts sets this, but if you want to run without
> > them, you have to set the path yourself.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > | > | If I try to run XWin.exe, it says that it cant find
> > | > | cygwin1.dll.
> >
> >         /Andy
> > --
> >  The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!
> 


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Problem with french Keyboard
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, EXT / EUREKA LE CUNFF Laurent wrote:

> When I start Cygwin-Xfree with this command (in startwinx.bat) to work on
> remote host
> 
> Xstart /B XWin -query 10.27.252.90 -from 10.27.252.165 -screen 1 1280 1024 
> 
> I haven't got french keyboard.
> 
> How can I solve my problem ?

http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/#config
http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/#modmap

bye
	ago
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From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfree in cygwin Setup program
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683326@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>


at www.cygwin.com  

Suhaib


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rasjid Wilcox [mailto:rasjidw@bigpond.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 7:14 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: xfree in cygwin Setup program
> 
> 
> On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 7:03 am, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 09:48:31PM +1100, Rasjid Wilcox wrote:
> > >Just wondering what the status of getting XFree into the 
> Cygwin Setup 
> > >program?  I followed the discussion on 21st Jan, and a few 
> weeks ago 
> > >I saw some binaries up on the ftp site that looked like 
> they were in 
> > >progress,  but they are no longer there.
> > >
> > >I'd be willing to help.
> >
> > They're not there yet.  You can help by downloading and trying the 
> > setup.exe snapshots that Robert Collins has been making available.  
> > I'm sure he would love feedback.
> >
> > Once the new version of setup.exe is available, we'll be able to 
> > incorporate XFree86 into the distribution.
> >
> > cgf
> 
> Okay.  I'm in.  Where do I get the snapshots from Robert?
> 
> Rasjid.
> 


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Ttmkfdir TrueType font directory prep tool (binary for Cygwin)
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Sam,

Very interesting.

I downloaded ttmkfdir, ran it, and successfully added my TrueType fonts to
the available fonts in XWin using xset.  However, I have tried numerous
times, all unsuccessful, to start XWin with only the TrueType fonts via
the -fp and -fn parameters to XWin.

The first modification to make is obviously:

XWin -fp /cygdrive/c/WINNT/Fonts

I know that the above is correct, because if you drop the trailing 's'
you'll get an error that the font path can't be added.  Thus, the font path
command is correct.  However, you then get the "could not open default font
'fixed'" error.

To fix the default font error I have tried to change the default font with
the -fn paramter:

XWin -fp /cygdrive/c/WINNT/Fonts -fn "Microsoft Sans Serif"

or

XWin -fp /cygdrive/c/WINNT/Fonts -fn Verdana

I have tried tons of variations on the above, including lower case versions
of the font names, quotes, no quotes, etc., but all of them result in the
error of the form "could not open default font 'Microsoft Sans Serif'".

I'm stumped.  I can't understand why I can see the Microsoft Sans Serif
(albeit, in all lower-case) font in the list of fonts provided by
'xfontsel', yet I can't seem to specify a new default font.

Specifying the font path and a new default font on the command line is
highly desireable for the people that are trying to develop the absolute
minimum size Cygwin/XFree86 distribution as possible.

If anyone has any hints, I'd appreciate it.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Sam Edge
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:18 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Ttmkfdir TrueType font directory prep tool (binary for Cygwin)
>
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>
> For anyone who's interested, I've uploaded a Cygwin binary for Joerg
> Pommnitz's ttmkfdir to http://fundin.f2g.net/?download so you don't
> have to bother downloading and compiling the source for it and for
> the FreeType 1.1 library that it uses. (This program reads TTF files
> and automatically creates the appropriate fonts.scale file that
> XFree86 needs before it can use new TrueType fonts.)
>
> The archive also contains a README explaining one way to use all your
> Windows fonts with Cygwin/XFree86 without having to copy, move or
> convert them.
>
> Since I'm new to Cygwin I'll apologize in advance if this is the
> wrong place for this or if the execuatable is already out there.
>
> - --
> Sam Edge
>
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>
>


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xwinclip authorisation problem with remote hosts using XDMCP
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Alexander Gottwald wrote:

> This is wrong. 127.0.0.1 is the ip adress for localhost. On every computer,
> 127.0.0.1 points to itself. Say you have a windows host with ip 192.168.26.201
> and a unix host with ip 192.168.26.202, they can only communicate with these
> ip adresses. Connecting 127.0.0.1 from the windows host will connect to the 
> windows host and connecting 127.0.0.1 from the unix host will connect to the 
> unix host. 

Ooops, I should not write mails that early. Since the XServer is running on
the windows host, xhost 127.0.0.1 will allow the windows host to connect to
the Xserver.

bye
	ago
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 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017


From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Integrating xwinclip support
In-Reply-To: <200202030103.g1313SE57674@pilot26.cl.msu.edu>
Message-ID: 

On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Harold L Hunt wrote:
> The problem is that XNextEvent () is a blocking function, just like Win32's 
> GetMessage () function.  The problem here is when the X Server exits or 
> resets while XNextEvent () is blocking... in that case our X Client 
> (xwinclip) gets no notification that the X Server is exiting or resetting and 
> Xlib calls exit () for the X Client.  I'm trying to find a way around that... 
> primarily by seeing if there is a way to get notification before Xlib calls 
> exit (), that way we could close down the connection in a proper fashion.

man XSetIOErrorHandler:

       The XSetIOErrorHandler sets the fatal I/O error handler.
       Xlib calls the program's supplied error handler if any
       sort of system call error occurs (for example, the connec?
       tion to the server was lost).  This is assumed to be a
       fatal condition, and the called routine should not return.
       If the I/O error handler does return, the client process
       exits.
      
To avoid the return you might return via setjmp/longjmp back to the startup
code (and maybe sleep a while before doing so)
       
HTH
    ago
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From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020313043244.GC24420@redhat.com>

On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 03:14:53PM +1100, Robert Collins wrote:
>>I'm glad it sounds logical.  Cygwin already has lots of code that is NT
>>specific, e.g., CYGWIN=ntsec.
>
>I agree.  I got the impression from Corinna's email that what Ralf was
>suggesting needed a 9x equivalent to be seriously considered.  I'm not
>100% sure why I got that impression though....

Ok.  The horse is starting to decompose.  I'm not going to whack it anymore.

This is all actually off-topic for this mailing list anyway.

I assume that Suhaib and Harold are just being too polite to inform us of
that fact.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86 4.2.0
Message-ID: 

> XFree86 4.2.0 has been tagged and the binaries are showing up on
> ftp.xfree86.org now.
>
> Are we bothering with a distribution as per the normal XFree86 approach?
> or is anyone working on distributing XFree86 4.2.0 via the setup.exe
> mechanism ?
>
> Alan.

Alan,

Well, we have to make a standard XFree86-style distribution for now,
regardless of the state of anyone working on using setup.exe to install
Cygwin/XFree86.  See, the documentation won't get re-written over night, so
we'll be providing a standard XFree86 distribution until a setup.exe-based
distribution is working and documented.

That's pretty logical right?

I'm pulling the xf-4_2-branch tree right now.  I might build a distribution
within a couple days.

Harold


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Mouse-click focus in X ?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Sun, 3 Mar 2002, Lars Jensen wrote:

> How do I get the MS windows-like mouse-click focus behavior in X windows? I
> want a window to become active first when I click within the window area.
> (Presently a window becomes active when I place the mouse within the
> window area.) I'm using standard Cygwin-xfree setup with twm.

This is a twm setting. How to set this is described here:
http://ua1vm.ua.edu/cgi-bin/man-cgi?twm

bye
	ago
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From abruns@ftk.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: abruns@ftk.de (Alexander Bruns)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: german umlauts etc in xterm ofer ssh
Message-ID: <004701c1ae6c$34559710$580eb084@evel>

Hi,

on my german Windows 2000 installation I have a running XWIN and cygwin-
installation. When I make a SSH-connection with Secure-CRT to a
Linux-SSH-Server, I can forwart X11 to my local X-Server Running on
xfree under cygwin! That works fine!

But for example, I open in the ssh-bash an "xterm &" and the xterm opens on
my localy xfree/cygwin, I have a different language in the xterm-bash.

I cannot user the "??????" etc.

When I make this with a booted linux on my side instead of windows and make
a ssh and the x11-forwarding to my local linux-xfree, I have the german
umlauts etc.

How Do I get this running under cygwin?


Greetings


Alex




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From NikolayMetchev@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: NikolayMetchev@hotmail.com (Nikolay Metchev)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cannot start XServer
References:  <20020221231016.J2567@fairlite.demon.co.uk>  <20020221234810.L2567@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: 

That was a tough bug to track down. Perhaps this should be mentioned in the
installation instructions which are on the XFree86 web page.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hourihane" 
To: "Nikolay Metchev" 
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: Cannot start XServer


> Sounds like you need to mount your drives in binary mode, and
> retry the installation as the font files don't quite work right
> in text mode.
>
> Alan.
>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 11:39:21PM -0000, Nikolay Metchev wrote:
> > This is what XWin.log says:
> > ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
> > winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
> > ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 5 i: 1
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits
per
> > pixel
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 716 1024
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 716 1024
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 691 r 1018 l
0 b
> > 691 t 0
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> > winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 4072
> > winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
32
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 32
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> >
> > Fatal server error:
> > could not open default font 'fixed'
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alan Hourihane" 
> > To: "Nikolay Metchev" 
> > Cc: 
> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Cannot start XServer
> >
> >
> > > What does /tmp/XWin.log have to say ?
> > >
> > > Alan.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 10:37:49PM -0000, Nikolay Metchev wrote:
> > > > I sent the e-mail below .  I have been asked to provide additional
> > > > information. I am using Windows XP. I have a TCP/IP LAN using
internet
> > > > connection sharing. I do not use Zone Alarm or any other personal
> > firewall
> > > > tool. I still get the error message listed below.
> > > >
> > > > > I have installed the 4.2.0 version of Cygwin/XFree86 on my Windows
XP
> > > > laptop
> > > > > using a second monitor and when I tried to run the XServer a
window of
> > > > some
> > > > > sort appeared and then disappeared leaving this message:
> > > > > $ ./startxwin.bat
> > > > > startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows NT/2000
> > > > > XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server
> > > > > "127.0.0.1:0.0"
> > > > > XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server
> > > > > "127.0.0.1:0.0"
> > > > >
> > > > >       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events
remaining.
> > > > >       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events
remaining.
> > > > >       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events
remaining.
> > > > >
> > > > > any ideas what I am doing wrong?
> > > > >
> > >
>


From mika.laitio@sysline.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: mika.laitio@sysline.com (mika.laitio@sysline.com)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Creation of postgres user to cygwin fails.
Message-ID: 

I tried to install postgreSQL to service as mentioned in the document
      /usr/doc/Cygwin/postgresql-7.2.README
but I can not get it working properly because I have problem in the
creation and login in as postgres-user to cygwin.
After creating the postgres-user to Cygwin and trying to login to Cygwin as
a postgres-user, I am getting following kind of error:

      Administrator@NERIAH /usr/X11R6/bin
      $ login
      login: postgres
      Password:
      Fanfare!!!
      You are successfully logged in to this server!!!
      login: no shell: /bin/bash: Permission denied

      Administrator@NERIAH ~
      $

I am running Windows 2000, and I am logged to Windows as a as a user which
is local Administrator and belongs
to my companys NT-Domain. The postgres user which I created to Windows, is
local user.

If I logon to Windows 2000 as a local postgres-user, and open
cygwin-console, then it shows in the console that I am
logged in as a postgres-user just fine.(If I then would try to login as an
Administrator, I would get the same permission denied
message what I explained above.)

I tried to read documentation from ntsec in
      http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ntsec.html
but I really did not catch up what I should do...

Mika


From ssiddiqi@ssiddiqi.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@ssiddiqi.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: How can i link to X11 with gcc?
In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2AF4801@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C266AA06@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>

link to -L/usr/X11R6/lib not /usr/lib

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com 
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Oleg Giwodiorow
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 4:44 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: How can i link to X11 with gcc?
> 
> 
> Hi,
> I suppose this question is stupid, but i can not figure it 
> out myself...
> 
> How can i link to X11 libraries with gcc ?
> 
> if i try to compile with :
> "gcc -L/usr/lib -lX11 ..." i recieve the error message : 
> "cannot find -lX11"
> 
> If i change the makefile, so the path is setted, where the 
> libX11.a is : "gcc -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 ..." i recieve lots 
> of errors like : "undefined refernce to 'XDrawPoint'" Most of 
> the listed Functions are includet with Xlib.h (i suppose all, 
> but they are to many to verify each of them).
> 
> Excuseme for my weak english and
> thank You;
> Oleg
> 


From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: problem - system api on winnt
In-Reply-To: <177E503C4DA3D311BC9D0008C791C30607253C75@diexch01.xko.dec.com>
Message-ID: <20020117132158.29370.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com>

Wrong Group.  I have forwarded your question to cygwin@cygwin.com.  This group
is for XFree related questions.  I did not have any problems compiling your
example code in Win2K.  (I linked against stdc++) Hopefully they can help you.

Brian

--- "Guntupalli, Santhi"  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 	I installed Cygwin Dll 1.3.6. I am working on Win NT.
> > 	I built the sources in cygwin sucessfully.
> > 	I have to use this application executable on some other win nt
> > system which does not have cygwin.
> > 	
> > 	When i run my application from winnt promt it is returning for
> > system api return code 127.
> > 	I copied only cygwin1.dll to that system.
> > 	This is sample program.
> > 	Implementation of copy command.
> > 
> > 	sample.cpp:
> > 
> > 	int main()
> > 	{
> > 
> > 	int exit_code=::system("cp test.cpp test1.cpp");
> > 	cout< > 	}
> > 
> > 	I built the sample.cpp in cygwin. i got the executable. when run
> > executable from cygwin prompt system api is executing the 	command
> > properly and returns exit_code as 0.
> > 
> > 	When i copy the same executable to some other machine which does not
> > have cygwin and i run it from winnt cmd promt
> > 
> > 	system api is returning error code as 127.  It is not executing
> > system api. 
> > 	cygwin1.dll is in path.
> > 	Not only cp command, it is returning same error code for all other
> > commands.
> > 	
> > 	What could be the problem. i need to copy any other cygwin dlls to
> > my application?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > - Santhi
> > 	
> > 		
> > 	


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From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: missing telnet, solution
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: mstucky5 [mailto:mstucky5@cox.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 10:10 AM
> To: Cygwin@Cygwin.Com; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: missing telnet, solution
> 
> 
> This whole thread got me thinking about possible ways
> to avoid this "xxx is missing" problem...
> 
> I thought that I'd throw an idea out for discussion...
> 
> Would it make sense to have setup install a dummy
> script for some of the common utilities and then
> overwrite that script with the actual utility if
> it is selected from the gui as it should be?

In debian, there is a package that will do this - I think it that when a
binary is not found it queries dpkg to see if a package that can provide
it exists.

Anyway, I think that an _automated_ approach to this could be quite
useful, but not a manual one. (I realise that you didn't imply either,
I'm simply getting there first :}).

Rob


From marcw@onlymooo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: marcw@onlymooo.com (Marc Williams)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xdmcp login
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1013387142.4218.7.camel@fred.williams.etc>

Thanks for the reply.  Using the info you provided, I started to do some
reading and info gathering on ssh, etc.  Holy mackerel!  That's a lot of
stuff especially for a relative newbie like me.  I must say, it looks
quite daunting, at least at this stage of my Linux education.  So I'll
just plug along on a spare machine and see if I can't figure this out.

Btw, would you know if all that encrytion / decryption going on would
cause my Win machines to take a performance hit?  Thanks!


On Sun, 2002-02-10 at 10:15, Alexander Gottwald wrote:
> > My question is this: when using this method (XWin), is there a way to
> > bypass the Gnome login and get right to the Gnome desktop i.e. passing
> > the Windows authentication info on to the Linux machine?  Thanks!
> 
> No. Not via xdmcp. 
> 
> But you can use ssh to build an other session managment. 
> - Create RSA/DSA keys for ssh.  This will allow you to connect to the linux
>   host without providing a password (but the private RSA key)
> - start X with 
>   export WINDOWMANAGER=gnome
>   xinit /usr/bin/ssh -X remotehost .xsession -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin :0
>     
> This starts the Xserver adn connects via ssh to the remote host and starts a
> X session with the local server as output device.
> 
> Maybe you have to give some extra options to .xsession or use another startup
> file like .xinitrc or /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc or even better 
> /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession gnome.




From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 not working with 1.3.10-1
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020331183429.GA17092@redhat.com>

On Sun, Mar 31, 2002 at 01:15:08PM -0800, Bob Calco wrote:
>Anybody:
>
>I just tried to install XFree86, and I'm getting the "Cannot open display
>127.0.0.1:0.0" error described as a bug in some versions of cygwin1.dll in
>the startxwin.sh startup script.
>
>I have the latest greatest cygwin 1.3.10-1 (just checked in fact) and I was
>wondering if this is a known issue, and whether I just need to wait for a
>new cygwin1.dll?

You'd be much better off asking this question in the mailing list that
deals with Cygwin/Xfree86 questions.

I've redirected this discussion there.

cgf


From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window.
In-Reply-To: <20020111144546.83630.qmail@web13506.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020111150122.42227.qmail@web20808.mail.yahoo.com>

Well, running a browser should be as easy as running it with a display set :

netscape -display winmachine:0

Or setting the display variable, and running netscape :

setenv DISPLAY winmachine:0
netscape

To run XDMCP, if you have it enabled in the linux box (I think most
distributions have it on by default), simply use the following command line
variables when starting the X server (This is in the user's manual):

-query linuxIP -from windowsIP

Brian


--- Raber Chris  wrote:
> Brian,
> 
> You are a bit confused by my question because I am
> confused and propagating confusion!
> 
> I am not sure if I want to run a different window
> manager or not. What I want is to be able to run a
> browser window from the remote Linux machine on my
> XWin client on cygwin. The reason is that I am going
> to be doing some installs via that browser and it
> makes my life easier (i.e. easier than using lynx that
> is).
> 
> If I need to run a different window manager, then so
> be it. I have been reading about XDMCP but I don't
> fully get it. Can you point me to the best place to
> learn how to set up XDMCP for the Linux box? Is this a
> good reference:
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> -Chris.
> 
> --- Brian Genisio  wrote:
> > Well, I am a bit confused about your question.  If
> > you are looking to run
> > annother window manager, but not run it from the
> > Windows box, then run it from
> > the the linux box...
> > 
> > Get the XFree/Cygwin server up
> > From the Linux box, run the windows manager... (ex.
> > fvwm -display windows:0)
> > 
> > I like using the XDMCP feature, documented on the
> > website.  XDMCP allows you to
> > log in remotely, and ship your desktop to the
> > XFree/Cygwin server.  It works
> > well.  
> > 
> > Brian
> > 
> > 
> > --- Raber Chris  wrote:
> > > Reposting, I don't need a direct email response. I
> > > found the WEB UI to the list archive...
> > > 
> > > First, thanks for Xfree/cygwin. Just what I needed
> > to
> > > do some remote Linux work from my PC.
> > > 
> > > I have cygwin/xfree and can start remote xterms
> > from a
> > > linux server just fine. I'd like to be able to run
> > a
> > > netscape or other browser from my remote linux
> > > machine, but trying to run netscape doesn't seem
> > to
> > > work.
> > > 
> > > I am using the twm. Do I have to run kde or gnome
> > to
> > > pull this off? What is the simplest way to use
> > some
> > > other window manager? I'd prefer not to have to
> > > install another wm on my pc if I don't have to.
> > > 
> > > Suggestions are much appreciated.
> > > 
> > > TIA,
> > > 
> > > -Chris.
> > > 
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From edi@serbski-institut.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Please help: XDMCP connection dog-slow
In-Reply-To: <20020326211002.23003.qmail@web20804.mail.yahoo.com>
References: 
	<20020326211002.23003.qmail@web20804.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020327.082148.41648857.edi@serbski-institut.de>

From: Brian Genisio 
Subject: RE: Please help: XDMCP connection dog-slow
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:10:02 -0800 (PST)

> Are you connected through dialup, or some sort of WAN?  X doesnt work too well
> across long distances... even if there is a lot of bandwidth... it's a latency
> thing.

Nothing of the sort. 100MBit LAN. At home, a much slower notebook with much less RAM
performs perfectly ok on 10MBit. Right now, I'm logged in from home over a DSL line
and the performance is still acceptable.

> --- "Palic, Darko"  wrote:
> > Do you use a novell logon?

Yes, all our windows computers do.

> > If so I?m not sure if it is the problem, but could you try to resolve the
> > names of both computers?

Works.

> > Try to logon onto your linux and try to resolve the other computer name, and
> > also the other way (logon on client try to resolve the linux box)

The other way I can't try right now, but the windows clients only use the IP address
anyway. Can it still be an issue? 

Anyway, thanks to both of you

Edi


From mbardiaux@peaktime.be  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: mbardiaux@peaktime.be (Michel Bardiaux)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: This mailing list
References: 
		<3C6A2F1E.8FB1C87B@peaktime.be> 
Message-ID: <3C6A465D.8586B16C@peaktime.be>

Andrew Markebo wrote:
> 
> [...]
> | Good idea. And when reconfiguring the list server, it would be nice to
> | have Subjects prefixed with [CYGWIN-XFREE]. I know that is not so easy,
> | because the list server must ensure the prefix is not 'stuttered'. But
> | whan you are subscribed to say 6 lists, even one like cygwin-xfree that
> | does not show the origin of messages, makes management of one's inbox
> | rather hard. If there were two... .
> 
> Well you can always find cygwin-xfree in the To: or CC: field of the
> email.. or?? Thats how I sort them and I never get such beast in my
> normal inbox.

I should have given more details: I meant managing inbox *without having
to open each message*, i.e. just by looking at the Subject. I am using
Netscape, and in the subwindow listing folder contents, the 'sender' of
a message is the *real* sender, not cygwin-xfree. Hence, one has to open
a message to know it came from cygwin-xfree.

Greetings,
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From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Building Enlightenment 
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <013d01c19e11$e2014050$fe6207d5@BRAMSCHE>

>
> > + _IceLastMajorOpcode
>
> Why does this symbol need to be exported?  I need some description to put in
> the patch submission if I'm going to send this on to XFree86.
>
I've got some errors from people who were compiling the kdelibs 2.1.1 from the kde-cygwin cvs
area and the dcopserver depends on this.

For kde 2.2.x this isn't recommended, because the dcopserver uses a patched ICE lib, which
was located in kdelibs/dcop/KDE-ICE and does not need the origin libICE. I have added this
patched lib to the kde-xlib package to support those people.

Only for kde I think this patch is not absolutly nessessary to submit to the xfree group,
because kde 2.1.1 is obsolate and today I have send a request to the sourceforge stuff to
remove the kde 2.1.1 source release from the cvs area.

But it may be other apps who like to use this and this seems to me the only symbol which
isn't exported yet.
Does this have any specific reason ? Why should this symbol not be exported anyway ? This
would reduce some question about why this was not exported in the future. What about if
someone is going to use the kde 2.1.1 dcopserver for another project. He has to ask again
about this missing symbol.

Any comments ?

Ralf


From nigel_phillips@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nigel_phillips@hotmail.com (Egon Phillips)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
Message-ID: 


Hi,

The problem was not related to Zone Alarm Pro 3.X, but was the font error 
described in the FAQ.  I fixed it by using winrar to extract the following 
files:

xf100.tgz
xfcyr.tgz
xfnts.tgz
xfscl.tgz

and copy the files on top of the associated cygwin-xfree directories:

\usr\X11R6\lib\X11\fonts.

Thanx Andrew, Harold, Alan and others for all your help, it is greatly 
appreciated.

Egon

>From: Andrew Markebo 
>To: egon.phillips@sympatico.ca
>Subject: Re: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
>Date: 08 Mar 2002 08:34:32 +0100
>
>There were a positive answer in the list, could it be that he used
>zonealarm pro?? Doublecheck with him.
>
>         /Andy
>
>/ "Egon Phillips"  wrote:
>| Yes, that's a good idea, but I tried it and it doesn't work.  I also
>| upgraded to zonealarm 3.0, and so far that hasn't worked either.  I
>| sent email to zonelabs, the  zonealarm and awaiting a reply.  Surely,
>| someone must have managed to get Xfree86 working with zonealarm
>| installed?  Anyone?  Anyone?
>|
>|
>| >From: Andrew Markebo 
>| >To: egon.phillips@sympatico.ca, nigel_phillips@hotmail.com
>| >CC: huntharo@msu.edu, cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>| >Subject: Re: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
>| >Date: 07 Mar 2002 17:31:23 +0100
>| >
>| >hmm just a thought, if you can config zonealarm to allow traffic on
>| >port 6000 and/or 6001 it might be possible to get them working
>| >together?  or?
>| >
>| >check the zonealarm logs and see what zonealarm blocks and if you can
>| >tell it to allow the X-traffic.
>| >
>| >or does zonealarm do more to the network interface??
>| >
>| >         /Andy
>| >
>| >
>| >/ "Egon Phillips"  wrote:
>| >| >Why are you telling me this?
>| >| Because you answered my earlier query.
>| >|
>| >| >  I really don't care... you need to send all
>| >| >Cygwin/XFree86 related mails to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list.
>| >| >  I will reply to such mailings if I believe I can contribute.
>| >| >
>| > | >Having said that... ZoneAlarm is the problem and it must be
>| > removed (if I
>| >| >remember correctly).  If you don't believe me then follow these 
>steps:
>| >| >
>| >| >1) Admit that ZoneAlarm is the problem.
>| >| >
>| >| >2) Remove ZoneAlarm software from your system.
>| >| >
>| >| >3) In the event that step (1) fails, see step (1).
>| >| >
>| >| I guess you don't like zonealarm? ;-) Ok, Ok, I'll contact zonelabs
>| >| and see if they have a work around.  If not I'll get rid of it.
>| >| Pitty, we run TPF at the router, and zonealarm on our client 
>computers.
>| >|
>| >| THANX
>| >|
>| >| >Harold
>| >| >
>| >| > > -----Original Message-----
>| >| > > From: Egon Phillips [mailto:nigel_phillips@hotmail.com]
>| >| > > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 12:46 AM
>| >| > > To: huntharo@msu.edu
>| >| > > Subject: RE: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
>| >| > >
>| >| > >
>| >| > > Thanx Harold,
>| >| > >
>| >| > > It is installed but won't run.  Apparently there is a problem
>| >| > > with Zonalarm.
>| >| > >   I was unable to find a solution in the archives.  That is
>| >| > > without deleting
>| >| > > zonealarm from my system.
>| >| > >
>| >| > > Which ports are used during the startup, shutdown and maintenance 
>of
>| >| > > cygwin-Xfree86?  Maybe if I open the associated ports xfree86
>| >| > > will startup?
>| >| > >
>| >| > > Here is my output from the startx command:
>| >| > >
>| >| > > $ startx
>| >| > >
>| >| > > giving up.
>| > | > > xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to
>| > X server
>| >| > > xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
>| >| > >
>| >| > >
>| >| > > >From: "Harold Hunt" 
>| >| > > >To: 
>| >| > > >Subject: RE: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
>| >| > > >Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:38:02 -0500
>| >| > > >
>| >| > > >You need to be following the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide
>| >| > instructions for
>| >| > > >installation... not the XFree86 general instructions.  The
>| >| > Cygwin/XFree86
>| >| > > >User's Guide is located at:
>| >| > > >
>| >| > > >http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/
>| >| > > >
>| >| > > >Harold
>| >| > > >
>| >
>| >--
>| >  The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!
>|
>|
>|
>|
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From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Font Path
In-Reply-To: <3C639F2C.1F093795@merkur.hrz.tu-freiberg.de>
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Tim Bause wrote:

> dear all,
> 
> recently I tried to install the cygwin/XFree86 and run into Problems.
> First of all I was suprised not to find the XF86Config file. 

The configfile is not used.

> Starting the xserver, a fatal server error occured: "could not open 
> default font 'fixed'.  Seems that the font path is broken. So, how do 
>I configure the font path?

Please check the faq. This problem is discussed there.

bye
	ago
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From ppayami@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ppayami@yahoo.com (payam payami)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xterm Xt error
Message-ID: <20020306133249.17013.qmail@web14903.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,
    I'm installing cygwin/xfree. when i telnet from
windows machine to linux machine then do
"DISPLAY=192.168.1.26:0.0" and then do "export
DISPLAY"
and then do "xterm &" but when i do "xterm &" command
i get this error:" xterm Xt error: Can't open display:
192.168.1.26:0.0 "

PS: I can ping from windows machine to linux machine
or viceversa.
192.168.1.26=IP for windows machine

what can i do with this problem?

Thanks,
payam


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Gnome Win 2000 Cygwin-XFRee86
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Yes, you missed something:

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ported-software.html

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Egon Phillips
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 8:37 PM
> To: cygwin-XFree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Gnome Win 2000 Cygwin-XFRee86
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for a gnome, cygwin-XFree86 Win2k (Windows 2000) binary, that
> will run ontop of cygwin.  I noticed discussion in the mailing
> list, but was
> wondering if anyone has a working version gnome, on  cygwin-xfree86, or
> native Win 2k gnome? I must have missed something?
>
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DirectDrawCreate
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Alexander,

The calls to DirectDrawCreate in Cygwin/XFree86 files are exactly as they
would be if using Visual C++.

> I now changed the code from calling (*fpDirectDrawCreate)(...) to
> DirectDrawCreate(...) (fpDirectDrawCreate is a FARPROC from
> GetProcAddress).
> Is this correct?

What are you talking about?  I never got an address to DirectDrawCreate from
GetProcAddress.  Is there something in the ddraw.h or objbase.h that causes
this to happen?

Remember that those two headers came from the Wine project so they may have
to be modified to follow new w32api conventions.

Please explain what is going on a little more clearly...

Harold


From rasjidw@bigpond.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rasjidw@bigpond.com (Rasjid Wilcox)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: can my X-WIN 32 be causing my server shutdown prob?
In-Reply-To: <20020328044806.83970.qmail@web20110.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20020328044806.83970.qmail@web20110.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200203281137.WAA20352@cts01.webone.com.au>

On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 3:48 pm, Ed Conrad wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I removed 4.2.0 and installed 4.1.0 and I still have
> the same problems.  I have X-WIN 32 installed on my
> comp and it occurred to me that this could be causing
> some conflict.
>

If you are trying to run them at the same time, make sure they are using 
different display numbers.  By default they will probably both try and grab 
display 0.

I have successfully had both running on different display numbers at the same 
time, so I'm not aware of any other conflict.

Rasjid.


From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: missing telnet, solution
In-Reply-To: <002401c1d1c1$6c49e540$640aa8c0@topdog>
References: <002401c1d1c1$6c49e540$640aa8c0@topdog>
Message-ID: <20020322183421.GJ25487@redhat.com>

On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 08:48:41AM -0800, Phil Burk wrote:
>Perhaps the Cygwin/XFree86 User Guide could be modified to make sure
>telnet and ssh get included in the installation the first time.  It
>currently tells people to leave the default settings alone but the
>default does not include telnet.

I'm at a loss understanding why Cygwin/XFree86 would need to tell people
that ssh and telnet are required.  Neither is needed for X applications.

cgf


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)
In-Reply-To: <20020320043934.GA8470@redhat.com>
References: 
	
	<20020320043934.GA8470@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

/ Christopher Faylor  wrote:
| On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 11:27:18PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
| >Okay, I mirrored the files:
| >http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/xbase-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
| >http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/setup.hint
| >http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/md5.sum
| 
| I'm not clear on whether these (mirrored) files are being formally
| offered for the cygwin release or not.

Thanx!

At the moment they are just me playing around, getting accustomed to
cygwin setup, hoping to get some feedback to see if I got it right.

| It seems like there were originally some questions that are best dealt
| with in the cygwin-apps mailing list (cc'ed), where discussion about
| that kind of stuff is commonplace.

will join ;-)

| My inclination is to just add the xfree directory in the ftp area to the
| list of directories that setup scans for files to install.  Then you can
| create your hierarchy under that.
| 
| Or, were you planning on keeping the separate .tgz files around too?

separate .tgz? I The executable tgz's of the xfree package? I am
considering giving it a try using them instead.. small ptoblem might
be version numbering, can I put version numbers in the hints file?
(the dist tgz files today is automagically built by xfree makefile(?)
and therefore I don't want to change their name, to get it as easy as
possible)

        /Andy

-- 
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From Ralf.Boetnagel@dvg.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Boetnagel@dvg.de (Ralf.Boetnagel@dvg.de)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: XWin w2k xdmcp-query - no valid address
Message-ID: 


Hi,

thanks again - for the fast response.

Exceed runs just fine. I do have a TR-Card which is active, a deactivated
Ethernet-Card (no connection to network) and a loopback device. No problems
with Exceed there, tho.
I do not have any tunneling device enabled.

ls_netdev says:

(the from-option should take care of the missing IP-Addr. imo)

A101188@W0010B3D:/tmp/ls_netdev>./ls_netdev
OS Version: Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2
Querying devices using ioctl
lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1
eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0
eth1: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0
Querying devices using internal function
dwAddr=00000000
dwIndex=2
dwMask=00000000
dwBCastAddr=00000001
dwReasmSize=65535
dwAddr=00000000
dwIndex=16777220
dwMask=00000000
dwBCastAddr=00000001
dwReasmSize=65535
dwAddr=dcfdc906
dwIndex=33554437
dwMask=00f0ffff
dwBCastAddr=00000001
dwReasmSize=65535
dwAddr=0100007f
dwIndex=1
dwMask=000000ff
dwBCastAddr=00000001
dwReasmSize=65535
wszName=
dwIndex=1
dwType=24
bDescr=MS TCP Loopback interface
wszName=
dwIndex=2
dwType=6
bDescr=PGPnet Virtual Identity Adapter
wszName=
dwIndex=16777220
dwType=6
bDescr=FE575 Ethernet Adapter
wszName=
dwIndex=33554437
dwType=9
bDescr=MADGE_TR_MINIPORT_DRIVER: MDGNDIS5 5.95.90
eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0
eth1: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0
lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1


Ciao  Ralf




From roger123@alltel.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: roger123@alltel.net (Roger)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Window manager?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1012940008.8802.27.camel@localhost2.localdomain>

blackbox-0.62.0 (even compiled it from source on cygwin current code)
and it works like a dream.

oh, you may need some additionals like gtk and gnome stuff but there's a
site that specifie's notes on how to get allot of the gnome libraries
and packages to compile on cygwin.

blackbox-0.62.0 works like a dream here! you can find it on
sourceforge.net

there are also several method of starting xfree86 under cygwin and i
strongly believe that this blackbox and gnome libraries should be
included on the cygwin-xfree site! 

-roger


On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 14:25, Harold Hunt wrote:
> Sean,
> 
> The list of Cygwin/XFree86 ports is at:
> 
> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ported-software.html
> 
> Be sure to check out Eric Lassauge's extensive list of ports:
> http://lassauge.free.fr/cygwin/
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Sean LeBlanc
> > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:56 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Window manager?
> >
> >
> > I see in the FAQ that XFCE and vtwm are available as pre-compiled
> > binaries.
> > The FAQ doesn't mention where to get them, though. Also, I'm not really
> > familiar with these window managers (I run KDE on my FreeBSD box,
> > and GNOME
> > on my Linux box; I have limited exposure to some others like CDE, olwm and
> > blackbox), so are there any other window managers that people have as
> > favorites? I see there is a KDE-Cygwin project, but I haven't
> > installed that
> > yet - anyone have any experiences to share about KDE on Cygwin/XFree86? I
> > realize a window manager can be a religious issue, but I'm looking for
> > something a little more robust than twm, and easy to install...
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> 
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From Chet.Norris@marriott.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Chet.Norris@marriott.com (Norris, Chet)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Question
Message-ID: <1DD75DB3A008D311A3250008C707C5EE0A317D37@mcncmdm1exis6.marriott.com>

> I'm a mainframe systems programmer with very little Linux an Unix
> knowledge. 
> I want to start an x-session on my windows/NT machine and get into KDE
> running on my Linux S/390 machine. Can Xfree86 do this? I went through the
> installation process and started Cygwin using startx, but all I see is
> three window sessions inside a desktop, all showing the same Cygwin Unix
> type command prompt.
> 
> 


From steve_obrien@hp.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: steve_obrien@hp.com (O'BRIEN,STEVE (HP-UnitedKingdom,ex1))
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xclients using tcp protocol
Message-ID: <72FAAE98015DD511B42600D0B747AC7F01471E2A@kipling.br.itc.hp.com>

Hi
Using Xfree86 4.2.0 with latest cygwin, I see the following problem whcih
may relate to the xdmcp connection problems reported by several people
recently, although I am not using xdmcp.

I set up the DISPLAY variable:
export DISPLAY=ntbox:0 

I start the X server with:
XWin -ac -noreset&

then a test client with:
xclock&

the xclock appears as expected. Then I try a second client:
xeyes

This fails to appear, eventually timing out with a "could not connect"
error.
This behaviour is consistent, whether the clients are started on the same
machine as the server, or on some remote linux box, for any clients (xclock
& xeyes are for example only). Note that, on the local NT box, if I use
"DISPLAY=localhost:0" or "DISPLAY=:0" then there is no problem and the
clients all start OK.

It is as if the first tcp connection is accepted, but then the server stops
listening for further tcp requests. If that is the case, then it would
explain exactly the "black screen" syndrome experienced by the xdmcp users -
the first client is probably an "xsetroot -solid black" which succeeds, but
then all further requests are rejected.

Can anyone else reproduce this problem? Is it an error in my local X
configuration, or is there anything else I can change to fix it?

Thanks,
Steven O'Brien


From strube@physik3.gwdg.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: strube@physik3.gwdg.de (Hans Werner Strube)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Shell survives killing xterm
Message-ID: <200203201540.QAA05553@r2d2.physik3.gwdg.de>

> From strube Mon Mar 18 11:27:45 2002
> 
> When an xterm (running bash) is killed, e.g. by twm menu or by exiting the
> xinitrc, the bash survives in the background with PPID 1 and has to be killed
> manually with kill -HUP. The only way to exit xterm neatly seems to be
> calling "exit" in its shell. This is very annoying. Is there a workaround?
> As the man page of bash says SIGTERM and SIGQUIT are ignored by an
> interactive bash, I tried setting
> trap "exit 0" TERM QUIT
> in .bashrc, but without success.

The same happens with tcsh.


From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: help notes for downloading cygwin
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020107035150.GA32055@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 12:38:51PM +1000, Williams, Allyson wrote:
>
>
>In the help notes there is an error on the following page re downloading
>cygwin:
>
>http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/xfree/docs/ug/cygwin-downloading.html
>
>The window used as an example of which pakages to download is actually taken
>from the "install" process rather than the "download" process. This may seem
>trivial but for someone new to the system it's not completely obvious (a)
>how to select packages (b) which ones to select.

You found the cygwin-xfree web site.  The next step is to find the cygwin-xfree
web site where this type of report should go.

cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com

cgf


From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin XFree web page looks odd in Mozilla
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <000001c19f95$e84983c0$7ca907d5@BRAMSCHE>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 2:35 PM
> To: cygx
> Subject: Re: Cygwin XFree web page looks odd in Mozilla
> > 
> > > Anyone else noticing that the XFree86 web page looks odd in Mozilla?
> > > Maybe it's because I'm using the latest snapshot but the Project
> > > Overview is showing up under the "left bar".
> >
> > It fails validation - usually a sign of some HTML oddity somewhere (just
> > click on the HTML4 icon).
> >
> > Rob
> 
> Rob - The errors you reported were trivial and are fixed now; they did not
> affect the rendering of the page.  I'm kind of surprised that there were
> errors at all, as I usually run the validator after submitting.  
                                      ^^^^^^^^^
Is this an open source tool ?

Ralf 



From jhobro@gatwick.westerngeco.slb.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jhobro@gatwick.westerngeco.slb.com (James Hobro)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Window manager?
References: <003701c1ad8c$11141500$1009a8c0@extrememotivation.com>
Message-ID: <3C5EB40C.1070201@gatwick.westerngeco.slb.com>

I have tried using KDE 1.2, but found it rather sluggish under Cygwin/XFree.

I now use fvwm2, which is very robust and very fast. It is also 
extremely configurable, although you do this by editing a text file 
rather than through the GUI-style interface offered by 
GNOME/Enlightenment & KDE.

As far as I remember, fvwm2 compiled from source with no problems under 
Cygwin/XFree.

If you need a sample config file, I think that there are several 
available if you follow the 'Links' link from the fvwm home page ( 
http://www.fvwm.org/ ).

James.


Sean LeBlanc wrote:

>I see in the FAQ that XFCE and vtwm are available as pre-compiled binaries.
>The FAQ doesn't mention where to get them, though. Also, I'm not really
>familiar with these window managers (I run KDE on my FreeBSD box, and GNOME
>on my Linux box; I have limited exposure to some others like CDE, olwm and
>blackbox), so are there any other window managers that people have as
>favorites? I see there is a KDE-Cygwin project, but I haven't installed that
>yet - anyone have any experiences to share about KDE on Cygwin/XFree86? I
>realize a window manager can be a religious issue, but I'm looking for
>something a little more robust than twm, and easy to install...
>
>TIA,
>
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From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:46 AM
> To: cygx
> Subject: RE: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
> 
> 
> Ralf,
> 
> Those are some very interesting results.  I especially like 
> the ones where Cygwin is 10 to 1000 times slower than Linux 
> :)  Oh well... I can't bitch anymore for fear of obligating 
> myself to contribute to Cygwin proper.
> 

Lol! Seriously though, I'm quite excited by what Ralf has been working
on, and the cygserver is in HEAD now, so cygwin 1.11 will have it, and
Ralf's patches don't need to be against a development branch.

Rob


From sgaunt@softwright.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: sgaunt@softwright.co.uk (Stuart Gaunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Problem with Solaris
Message-ID: <07E0E649A9C3D411A80A0020350804BD4E13A1@exch002.softwright.co.uk>

I'm trying to get cygwin/xfree working using XDMCP from Solaris (on sparc),
but all I get is a black screen with an egg-timer.

It works fine using XDMCP from a Linux host.

Using X-Win32 on the same PC works fine to Linux AND Solaris.

Under X-Win32, when I first connect I get the black egg-timer window, then
almost immediately I get the CDE login prompt.
Under cygwin/xfree, I get the black egg timer, but no prompt.  The egg-timer
follows my mouse around, so there is obviously some X stuff going on, but
not quite enough.

Any ideas ?????

Thanks
Stuart


From cpraber@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cpraber@yahoo.com (Raber Chris)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window.
Message-ID: <20020111153230.97318.qmail@web13506.mail.yahoo.com>

Brian,

> 
> Well, running a browser should be as easy as running
it with 
> a display set :
> 
> netscape -display winmachine:0

Tried this, does not work. No window ever is
displayed.

> 
> Or setting the display variable, and running
netscape :
> 
> setenv DISPLAY winmachine:0
> netscape

Same problem.

> 
> To run XDMCP, if you have it enabled in the linux
box (I think most
> distributions have it on by default), simply use the

> following command line
> variables when starting the X server (This is in the
user's manual):
> 
> -query linuxIP -from windowsIP
> 
> Brian


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From tvoverbe@cistron.nl  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: tvoverbe@cistron.nl (Ton van Overbeek)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Problems with xterm as distributed (Error 14, errno 2: No such file or 
 directory) and solution
Message-ID: <3C396A6E.649FD452@cistron.nl>

Hello,

I've been using the Cygwin Xfree86 release to port a large Unix based
application
to the Cygwin/Xfree environment.
The application uses a Tcl/Tk based front-end which starts up an xterm
to do the
actual work.
The startup of the xterm fails with 'xterm: Error 14, errno 2: No such
file or directory'.
This issue came up also early last year on the mailing list: see the
thread starting
with http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q1/msg00-275.html.
This thread did not give the cause of the problem. Some more looking
around on the
net showed that the problem is caused when xterm is started without a
controlling
terminal. This is exactly what happens in my case when started from a
Tcl/Tk procedure.
Looking at the xterm XFree86 sourcecode in the CVS at www.xfree86.org it
turns out
the problem has already been solved with CYGWIN specific code in main.c
(accepts ENOENT as a return code when trying to open /dev/tty in
function spawn()).
So I grabbed a copy of the xterm sources (xc/programs/xterm), recompiled
and it is working now.

An other issue is that the xterm application defaults are not installed.
They are not in the cygwin/xfree86 distribution and also did not get
installed
by 'make install' after my recompilation.
After doing a 'touch' on XTerm.ad and XTerm-col.ad they got installed.
Some date/time confusion between Windows & Cygwin ??

I would suggest to replace the xterm in the distribution by the one from
the current xf_4_1 branch and also to include the app default files.

Regards,

Ton van Overbeek


From mark.jones106@verizon.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: mark.jones106@verizon.net (Mark Jones)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: 8-bit PseudoColor 
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020201040408.00ae9500@mail.verizon.net>

The XFree port for Cygwin has some issues with color depths that I was 
curious as to whether there were any plans to solve in the next few releases.

Currently when using it as an X-Server, if one tries to start Cadence IC 
design tools on a remote host an error is given and it fails to start:
Failed to find 8-plane PseudoColor visual

8-plane I assume means 8-bit.  This happens no matter how many colors I 
have windows set to display and it does not go away if I try to force the 
depth to 8 bit with "-depth 8".  When using Linux instead, if I have X in 
16bit color, I get the same error, but not if in 8 bit.

Cadence is not the only software I have seen run into problems with 
this.  Another commercial (but smaller in terms of sales) IC design tool 
will start, but comes up with very distorted graphics, including pull down 
menus that are doubled up, so you see two of each at the top of the window, 
along with horrible colors.  This does not occur when using Exceed (or 
Linux).  This software also is not helped by setting windows depth to 8 
bit, along with X's depth to 8 bit, the results are the same.

I personally do not know much about how X handles its colors.  Though I 
have always thought it was in need of a major rework.  However, right now I 
think it would be good to get the Cygwin port working the same as the Linux 
version when it comes to this issue.

Does anyone know anything about this?

Thanks,

Mark


From Regnirps@aol.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Regnirps@aol.com (Regnirps@aol.com)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: KDE under cygwin?
Message-ID: <21.1a24d57e.29b8f024@aol.com>


In a message dated 3/7/02 8:04:30 AM, cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com writes:

>On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 09:43:05AM +0100, Ralf Habacker wrote:
>>> Is anyone using KDE, KOffice, (especially)
>>> KDevelop with Cygwin? I assume it
>>> would need the qt library. Is this all workable?
>>>
>>Look at http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net. There are alpha
>>releases of some kde packages
>
>And this is the wrong mailing list for discussing KDE.


There is always at least one isn't there? I suppose this is not the place to 
ask questions related to cygwin? Do you have an answer? Can I run KDE under 
cygwin? Maybe you have some more useless responses unrelated to the question?

I just did a complete install of Redhat that turned out to be the "publishers 
release"  with  no KDevelop or KOffice, supposed features of KDE 2.0+. So I'm 
back to cygwin where I already have cross development set up in a command 
line environment and want to test IDE and debug options.

I have wasted a lot of time and don't need any smoke from anal retentive list 
monitors. What's next, detention? If you don't like it and this is the 
quality of help here, I'll gladly unsubscribe.

Yours,
Charlie Springer


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xwinclip not waiting for x server startup (was xwinclip authorisation)
Message-ID: 

> Hi Shane,
>
> Cygwin/Xfree and XDMCP work correctly.  I only get a problem when running
a
> local X client at the same time as a remote X client (via XDMCP).  It
turns
> out a /etc/X0.hosts file containing a 'localhost' entry is needed.  Also
> xwinclip does not wait for the X server to complete startup, while some
> other clients (such as xterm) do.
>
> Any ideas why xwinclip does wait for X server startup?
>
> cheers Matthew

I wrote xwinclip.  The reason that it behaves differently than 'xterm' is
that xterm uses the XToolkit library, which xwinclip cannot use.  xwinclip
cannot use XT because we need to have a specialized event loop that
processes both X events and Win32 messages.  xwinclip needs the extra
options provided by using the X11 api directly, rather than through a
toolkit.

Now, you ask "why xwinclip [doesn't] wait for X server startup?"  I can
answer that question simply: because not enough is known about how we need
to "wait".  In other words, the issue is not well enough defined for it to
be solved.

I just added a loop that retries opening the X display several times.  That
change didn't really do anything.

Part of the problem is that the X Server (in a part of the code that we did
not write) accepts the xwinclip connection before  xdmcp connects to the
remote host.  xdmcp causes the server to reset when it gets a connection to
the remote host, so xwinclip is shutdown after xdmcp connects.

Now, two ideas come to mind to solve that problem, neither of which will
work:
1) Don't exit when we receive a message that the server is going to reset.
Instead, try to reconnect for about ten seconds.

   The problem here is that the error is generated by a libX11 function,
which calls _XDefaultIOError to report the error.  The problem with
_XDefaultIOError is that it then calls exit(1), so xwinclip never has a
chance to handle the error on its own.

2) Delay connecting to the X server by a number of seconds, regardless of
whether xdmcp is being used or not (as we have no way of knowing).  Perhaps
even allow a parameter to specify how many seconds to delay.

   This solution only duplicates the functionality of the 'sleep x' command,
where x is the timeout in seconds.  There is no point in duplicating
functionality.


The only way that I know of to get xwinclip to work with XDMCP is to change
your batch file (startxwin.bat) to something like the following:

start /B XWin -noreset -ac -query huntharo-4.user.msu.edu
sleep 8
start /B xwinclip

That's it for now,

Harold


From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ?
In-Reply-To: <013f01c1a8b1$87f67bc0$d527a8c0@CACHAREL>
Message-ID: <20020129115059.41932.qmail@web20809.mail.yahoo.com>

What OS?  How are you starting the X server?  What engine are you using?  I run
with a PII 300 Mghz in Win2K, and it runs quite well.  Make sure you are
running engine 4.  See the user's guide for more info :

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/


--- Jean-Marc Paulin  wrote:
> Hi there
> 
> I've just completed installing XFree...
> Added the ice window manager (need full screen and 16 bits color depth, but
> fair enough).
> 
> And the whole thing is running slow, really slow.
> 
> Ok, this is not a trivial piece of code (it is quite impressive to be
> honnest), but with a dual PIII 1Ghz, 1G of RAM, Matrox G450, I wouldn't
> expect any perf problem.
> 
> any ideas ?
> 
> thanks
> 
> JM
> 


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From quetschke@scytek.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: quetschke@scytek.de (Volker Quetschke)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfree in cygwin Setup program
References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683326@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> <200202051241.XAA13106@cts01.webone.com.au>
Message-ID: <3C5FDEA8.2070508@scytek.de>

> Okay, okay, I should have been more specific in my question.
> 
> So, to be more specific:
> When told to look at the snapshots of setup.exe that Robert has been making 
> available, does this mean I grab the code from the CVS tree and make it 
> myself from the source, or does it mean something else??


Have a look at:

http://www.cygwin.com/setup-snapshots/


Volker


From "gala"@zoran.co.il  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: "gala"@zoran.co.il (Gal Aviel)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Start Problem
References: 
Message-ID: <200202210951.LAA20592@zoran.co.il>

Hi Piyush Kumar,

I'm not sure I will be able to help you,
but if you provide the /tmp/XWin.log file
to the mailing list, it's a big help, since
the current error messages are very general.

Also, you might want to 'cygcheck -s -v -r > cygcheck.out'
and attach the cygcheck.out file in your message
to the mailing list.

Good Luck !

Gal.


Piyush Kumar wrote:

> I'm getting the same problem as the mail stated below,
> Anyone has ideas how to solve it??
>
> =====================================================
> $ ./startxwin.bat
> startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows NT/2000
> xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0
> twm:  unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0.0"
> xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0
> xsetroot:  unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0'
> =====================================================
>
> Other startup scripts too fail, giving one or the other
> similar result,
>
> Thanks,
> --Piyush
>
> hi,
>
> I just install the latest versions of cygwin and XFree86.
> I use a medion notebook with XP Window.
>
> I meet a problem to start the server X.
>
> -> If I try "sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh" the error message is :
>
> xsetroot : unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0'
> twm : unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0.0"
>
> -> If I try "startx" the error message is now :
>
> xinit : Connection refused (errno 111) : unavble to connect to X server
> xinit : no such process (errno 3) : Server error
>
> I find some thing about the first message in the FAQ but this does not
> help me.
>
> Thanks you for your help and your proposals
>
> mb
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From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: briangenisio@yahoo.com
In-Reply-To: <20020111171357.80859.qmail@web20802.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Brian Genisio wrote:

> OpenDisplay
> CreateWindow

CreateWindow does not need Serverresponse. But the pixmap's needed for 
Netscape cause the high traffic 
> GetGC
> GetFont

bye
	ago
-- 
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 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017


From FRANZW@dk.ibm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: FRANZW@dk.ibm.com (Franz Wolfhagen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
Message-ID: 

Do you have to ?

You could allow more functional platform in the source tree to have
this new functionality while leaving the DOS based Windows at the current
support.

Yes - this will complicat matters and will probably need some kind of
abstraction layer in the source to 'hide' the difference for
most developer, but the gain for the more advanced platforms is certainly
worth it....



>On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 09:30:05AM +0100, Ralf Habacker wrote:
>> I have done some analysing work with this and with the
>> cygwin daemon (cygserver transport classes) there may be a
>> way in the future to implement unix domain sockets with
>> named pipes which speed up unix domain sockets up to 250
>> MB/s, as I have measured with a quick an dirty sample
>
>Fine.  But how do you implement them on 9x/Me?
>
>Corinna


Med venlig hilsen / Regards
Franz Wolfhagen


From Darko.Palic@gmx.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Darko.Palic@gmx.de (Darko.Palic@gmx.de)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: questions
References: 
Message-ID: <25176.1012837425@www25.gmx.net>

Hi,

your first question could be answerd easily, AFAIK there is no way to do it
with XFree. On the list have been some discussions about the native MS window
support for X windows, but it seems to be a greater problem to realize this.
Maybe a developer could explain the problems.

Your second question: take a look at
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/

regards,
Darko

> Hello!
> 
> 1. How can I start XFree.exe so the Cygnus/XFree window doesn't appear,
>    not even when I start an X client (e.g xterm). I'd like X clients'
>    toplevel windows appear as normal, `native' Windows(R) windows.
> 
> 2. How can I transfer the selection between X11 and Windows? (So I can
>    select the URL in Internet Explorer, and start wget inside an xterm
>    inside XFree.exe without typing the URL again.)
> 
> I'm not a member of the mailing list, so please also reply personally.
> 
> pts
> 

-- 
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http://www.gmx.net


From Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com (Cary Jamison)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Update on log filling up
Message-ID: 

Well, I was wrong.  I thought I was getting tons of

  winCursorOffScreen () - hmm...

messages in my log file, when actually the culprit is

  winShadowUpdateDDNL () - IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt () failed: 887601c2

The thing is my log was so big I could not tail or more it.  I was using head and saw a few of the "hmm" messages and assumed those were the problem.  Turns out I always get those occasionally as I move the mouse around, but they're not a significant problem.

Also, the problem is not related to the virtual desktop manager (goScreen) that I am using.  (And I do still get "hmm"s whether or not I am running goScreen.)

These messages appear when I press CTL-ALT-DEL to get to the XP "Lock Workstation" button and any X window is being updated (including the X screen saver, which never goes completely blank since it can't go to power-saving mode).

I believe my workaround will be to disable the X screen saver, don't need it anyway--it was just going by default, and make sure I don't have any other animations or anything going when I lock my screen.

Cary

---
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Cary.Jamison@PowerQuest.com
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(801) 705-4685 fax


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xserver crashes on kde 2.2.1's kate
In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831F8@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831F8@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: <20020102144440.H2553@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 08:37:44AM -0500, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote:
> > From dawes@XFree86.Org Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:16:22 -0800 (PST)
> > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:16:22 -0800 (PST)
> > From: David Dawes dawes@XFree86.Org
> > Subject: CVS Update: xc (branch: xf-4_1-branch)
> > 
> > CVSROOT:        /home/x-cvs
> > Module name:    xc
> > Changes by:     dawes@public.xfree86.org.       01/12/21 13:16:21
> > 
> > Log message:
> >   Update the version/date for the 4.1 branch, in preparation 
> > to tag a 4.1.0.1
> >   snapshot.  Note: this doesn't imply a 4.1.1 release will be coming.
> > 
> > So you see we'll have 4.1.0 around some time. Maybe we should 
> > have a note 
> > in the installation instructions that newer server releases 
> > are available.
> 
> 4.1.x? or 4.2.o?  I am lost.
> 
It means that there have been bug fixes on the xf-4_1-branch since
XFree86 4.1.0 was released, but I doubt a 4.1.1 that ONLY fixes bugs
against 4.1.0 will ever make it out. This branch indicates a stable
4.1.x line of servers.

XFree86 4.2.0 will be the next release, it may have new bugs etc and
there will be a xf-4_2-branch that will maintain the 4.2.x for stable
servers.

etc, etc, etc.....

Alan.


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfs under Win2k
In-Reply-To: <3C864467.2010409@isd.dp.ua>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Sergei Lodyagin wrote:

> Alexander and Sergey,
> 
> I have no problems with starting up xfs and my /etc/X11/fs/config is OK.
> I have problems with accessing this server from the X server. It seams 
> like it has
> predefined font path and I don't known how to change it.
> 
> In Linux I can write the line in my /etc/X11/XF86Config:
> 
> "unix/:7100"
> 
> to use the xfs.
> 
> My question is: how I can do it under Win2k?

start Xwin with the option -fp unix/:7100. This sets the font path. 
Parsing of XF86Config is not available in the official Cygwin/Xfree86 
server.

bye
	ago
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From rlounsbury@progeny.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rlounsbury@progeny.net (Ron Lounsbury)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Virus reported when downloadig xfnts.tgz
Message-ID: <000401c1aa58$409a9100$490210ac@PSC0525>

When I was downloading the file xfnts.tgz, my McAfee virus scan reported
an unnamed virus in the file.  I have Virus Scan version 4.50, with
definitions file 4.0.4180 (dated 1/9/02) and scan engine 4.1.60.  Is
this a real virus, or just a mistake on McAfee's part?

Thank you
Ron Lounsbury
rlounsbury@progeny.net



From kk@eq.ufrj.br  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: kk@eq.ufrj.br (Marcus Vinicius Eiffle Duarte)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: How to compile WindowMaker?
Message-ID: <00b201c19912$26242a90$7747a492@eq.ufrj.br>

Hi, folks!

I am trying to compile WindowMaker 0.80 under Cygwin.
I have read the README and INSTALL files and did all the things they tell me
to do (at least, I guess I did).
However, after running the configure utility, I ran the make utility and, at
the end of the compiling process I get an error and the program is not
built. The lines that show the error are:
" ....
    Making all in Examples
    make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/wm/WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs/Examples'
    /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link gcc  -g -O2  -o connect.exe  connect.o
../../WINGs/libWUtil.a -L/usr/local/lib  -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lintl
    gcc -g -O2 -o connect.exe connect.o
 ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lintl
    ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a(wapplication.o): In function
`WMInitializeApplication':
    /tmp/wm/WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs/wapplication.c:39: undefined reference
to `_Xsetlocale'
    collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
    make[2]: *** [connect.exe] Error 1
    make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/wm/WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs/Examples'
    make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
    make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/wm/WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs'
    make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
"
I also figured that, even though the INSTALL file tells me to run a program
called ldconfig after I run make, I do not have a ldconfig.exe in my Cygwin
distribution.
I am not a C programmer, nor I am a Linux experienced user.
Can anybody

a) help me and tell me how to successfully compile WindowMaker under Cygwin?
b) tell what is the program ldconfig?

I tried searching for these answers in the mailing lists archives, but (for
some reason I don't know) the pages in the archive do not open in my
computer (I always get a time-out after a minute or two).
I am running Cygwin 1.3.6 under Windows 2000 SP2 (Brazilian Portuguese). I
downloaded WindowMaker-0.80.0.tar.gz from windowmaker.org.

Thanks in advence,

Marcus Vinicius Eiffle Duarte, M.Sc.

Escola de Qu??mica/UFRJ
Centro de Tecnologia, Bloco E, Lab. 113
Cidade Universit??ria, Rio de Janeiro, RJ, CEP 20949-900
Brasil
Tel: +55 21 2562-7622
eiffleduarte@ufrj.br
eiffleduarte@hotmail.com
ICQ # 20259520



From spetreolle@yahoo.fr  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: setxkbmap failure with cygwin-xfree 4.2.0
In-Reply-To: <3C8729F1.6050600@gamma-rs.ch>
Message-ID: <20020307093924.82543.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com>

Gzip your attachements please !

 --- "Charles L. Werner"  a ??crit??: >
Greetings,
> 
> I have attempted to use setxkbmap to change the
> keyboard layout to a 
> swiss-german layout. Just using the default layout
> leads to getting 
> standard key codes within the XFree desktop apps
> (xterm...). Our 
> installation is the latest 4.2.0 XFree86 , up to
> date cygwin 
> installation (see output of cygcheck attached) under
> NT-4 sp5 and WIN2K. 
>   With the command:
> 
> setxkbmap -layout de_CH
> 
> you get the setxkbmap error message:
> 
> Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property
> Use defaults: rules - 'xfree86' model - 'pc101'
> layout - 'us'
> Error loading new keyboard description
> 
> There was also a MS error box that popped up with
> the message:
> 
> Failed assertion
> fds_on_hold !=NULL
> at line 643 of file 
>
/cygnus/netrel/src/cygwin-1.3.10-1/winsup/cygwin/dtable.cc
> 
> I tried other arguments to setxkbmap but all give
> the same response, 
> even using the default arguments. xkb files are in
> /etc/lib/X11/xkb
> 
> Any suggestions? is some environment variable
> wrongly set?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Charles
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dr. Charles L. Werner
> Gamma Remote Sensing AG
> Thunstrasse 130
> CH-3074 Muri b. Bern, Switzerland
> 
> Tel: +41 31 951.7005
> FAX: +41 31 951.7008
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: MI keyboard input - automatic repeat?
Message-ID: 

In regards to some users noticing duplicate key strokes upon switching into
and out of Cygwin/XFree86...


Do the MI keyboard input routines have some sort of automatic key repeat
feature?

I have noticed the following behavior with the Native GDI engine, which is
extremely slow:

1) Open an xterm

2) Run 'xdpyinfo' to generate a few screens of output

3) Scroll xterm to the top of the output

4) Type 'exit' in the xterm.  This causes xterm to automatically scroll back
to the user input line, which takes a few seconds.

5) Notice that the xterm command line is 'eexit' not 'exit'.

6) This isn't a problem with xterm echoing part of the command late...
because if you press enter you get an error about 'eexit' not being found.

7) A similar sort of behavior can be exhibited by typing 'ls' followed by
enter.  In this case it takes 'ls' a second or two to do the directory
listing; when the listing is finished the xterm display two command lines
instead of just one (an extra enter causes the first one to execute nothing,
so a second one then appears).


I believe that this behavior is due to the MI keyboard input code looking at
the lag between the 'e' and 'enter' presses and releases, then it probably
is dividing by some sort of key-repeat interval to determine how many key
strokes to actually send.  This would also cause the extra keystrokes on
switching into and out of Cygwin/XFree86 that some people have noticed.

Perhaps this functionality isn't part of MI at all... rather, it may be part
of a lower level that reads the input event queue that MI generates.

The VNC project's method of handling user input is starting to make a lot
more sense:

1) Ignore WM_KEYUP/WM_SYSKEYUP messages.

2) In WM_KEYDOWN/WM_SYSKEYDOWN messages - discard mode key presses (Alt,
Ctrl, AltGr, Shift, etc.)

3) In WM_KEYDOWN/WM_SYSKEYDOWN messages - read the mode key states, send
down events for each pressed mode key, send the actual key down event, send
the actual key up event, then send key up events for each of the pressed
mode keys.


That system prevents the delay between processing the key down and key up
events from causing duplicate key presses when the server is very busy
between the key being pushed and the key being released.


What I need to know is:

1) Does this make sense to the other developers?

2) Is there actually some mechanism in X that is causing the simulated key
repeats?

3) Is there a way to disable any such mechanism in [3]?

4) Is someone willing to rework the keyboard input code to more closely
follow the VNC input code?


That's all for now,

Harold


From nigel_phillips@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nigel_phillips@hotmail.com (Egon Phillips)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
Message-ID: 

>Why are you telling me this?
Because you answered my earlier query.

>  I really don't care... you need to send all
>Cygwin/XFree86 related mails to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list.
>  I will reply to such mailings if I believe I can contribute.
>
>Having said that... ZoneAlarm is the problem and it must be removed (if I
>remember correctly).  If you don't believe me then follow these steps:
>
>1) Admit that ZoneAlarm is the problem.
>
>2) Remove ZoneAlarm software from your system.
>
>3) In the event that step (1) fails, see step (1).
>
I guess you don't like zonealarm? ;-) Ok, Ok, I'll contact zonelabs and see 
if they have a work around.  If not I'll get rid of it.  Pitty, we run TPF 
at the router, and zonealarm on our client computers.

THANX

>Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Egon Phillips [mailto:nigel_phillips@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 12:46 AM
> > To: huntharo@msu.edu
> > Subject: RE: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
> >
> >
> > Thanx Harold,
> >
> > It is installed but won't run.  Apparently there is a problem
> > with Zonalarm.
> >   I was unable to find a solution in the archives.  That is
> > without deleting
> > zonealarm from my system.
> >
> > Which ports are used during the startup, shutdown and maintenance of
> > cygwin-Xfree86?  Maybe if I open the associated ports xfree86
> > will startup?
> >
> > Here is my output from the startx command:
> >
> > $ startx
> >
> > giving up.
> > xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
> > xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Harold Hunt" 
> > >To: 
> > >Subject: RE: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
> > >Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:38:02 -0500
> > >
> > >You need to be following the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide instructions 
>for
> > >installation... not the XFree86 general instructions.  The 
>Cygwin/XFree86
> > >User's Guide is located at:
> > >
> > >http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/
> > >
> > >Harold
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of
> > > > egon.phillips@sympatico.ca
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 12:43 PM
> > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > Subject: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to install cygwin/XFree86. I have run into trouble
> > > > during the last
> > > > two steps of the installation procedure, contained in the
> > > > following document.
> > > >
> > > > Installation Details for XFree86[tm] 4.2.0
> > > > The XFree86 Project, Inc
> > > > 16 January 2002, Abstract
> > > > (AKA INSTALL)
> > > >
> > > > Development Environment
> > > > Win 2K, cygwin 1.3.10, Visual C++ EE, Progres 7.2
> > > >
> > > > Here is the output from the final two steps:
> > > > .........
> > > >
> > > > admin@BigRed@GOONMUNSTER /home/TEMP
> > > > $ /sbin/ldconfig /usr/X11R6/lib # For Linux
> > > > bash: /sbin/ldconfig: No such file or directory
> > > >
> > > > admin@BigRed /home/TEMP
> > > > $ /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/X11R6/lib # For FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD
> > > > bash: /sbin/ldconfig: No such file or directory
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can someone tell us how to solve this problem without compiling any
> > >code?
> > > >
> > > > Is the ldconfig utility somewhere in the cygwin distribution? If
> > > > not where can
> > > > we get a binary?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanx Egon.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DirectDrawCreate
Message-ID: 

Hi,

The next version of of w32api will define FARPROC as int (*FARPROC)(void)
which causes problems compiling xfree. Calling one of the functions (eg
DirectDrawCreate) with parameters will now fail. 

I now changed the code from calling (*fpDirectDrawCreate)(...) to 
DirectDrawCreate(...) (fpDirectDrawCreate is a FARPROC from GetProcAddress).
Is this correct?

bye
    ago
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From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: fixed font
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683210@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eugen Rotariu [mailto:erotariu@integrasoft.ro] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:12 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com
> Subject: fixed font
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've installed Cygwin 1.3.6 and xfree 4.1.0 on an XP
> machine, but X fails to start saying that the fixed font
> is missing. What does that mean? What can I do?
> 

It means you probably did not install fonts.  Did you follow exact
instructions in the User's Guide?

Suhaib

> Thank you,
> Eugen Rotariu
> 


From tilps@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: tilps@hotmail.com (Gareth Pearce)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: briangenisio@yahoo.com
References: <20020111175341.75579.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

Just as a 'case'
I have used netscape on Cygwin Xfree - over a 33.6k MODEM :P
yes it was dog slow ... (300ms latency i think...)
but it Did work ...
ssh X compression helped ALOT - i managed to get my marks from a university
server which includes filling out 4-5 forms - a few dialog boxes poping up.
etc in only 2 and a half hours. *snicker*
if my university let people access their internal database servers by proxy
server - life would be sooo much better... :P
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Genisio" 
To: "Alexander Gottwald" 
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 4:53 AM
Subject: Re: briangenisio@yahoo.com


> Yeah... I didnt know for sure which ones did, and which ones didnt cause
round
> trip... I was simply giving examples.... Regardless, there are PLENTY of
> round-trip messages in Netscape.  (xmond will show them.)
>
> Pixmaps cause high net traffic, but arent effected as much by latency as
they
> are bandwidth.  A DSL Cable modem usually doesnt have a problem with the
pixmap
> transfer...  Unless there is a lot of pixmap transfer, such as annimation.
> Still, it is a straight push, and latency matters much less in these
cases.
>
> I have written applications that were able to load large pixmaps quickly
across
> DSL or Cablemodem, but have also written programs with too many XSync
calls
> (roundtrip wrapper that uses GetInputFocus), causing them to be unusable
over
> Cable or DSL... It all depends if the designer cared about round-trip or
not.
>
> Almost all Motif widgets use XSync calls, as well as calls that are not
> streamlined for latency.  I would make a gross assumption that Netscape
uses
> Motif, or other widget sets that are probably not extremely efficient.
>
> A possible help to the problem might be ssh X compression.  It does a bit
for
> pixmap transfer.  LBX also can help a little on latency... There is a
plain old
> X compressor out there as well... but I cant remember the name.
>
> Brian
>
>
> --- Alexander Gottwald 
wrote:
> > On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Brian Genisio wrote:
> >
> > > OpenDisplay
> > > CreateWindow
> >
> > CreateWindow does not need Serverresponse. But the pixmap's needed for
> > Netscape cause the high traffic
> > > GetGC
> > > GetFont
> >
> > bye
> > ago
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> >
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From rdicaire@ardynet.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rdicaire@ardynet.com (R Dicaire)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: ssh X11 Forwarding from menu in window manager
References: 
Message-ID: <3C4AFB5D.D7B1AC68@ardynet.com>

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

Tzafrir, thanks for responding.

> > All my ssh keys are correctly configured,
> 
> This is probably irrelevant. X11 forwarding is generally not related to
> how you authenticated.

Not sure what you mean here. In linux, I use ssh-agent, every terminal
and xterm I log into sources a file at login that sets two ssh variables
so I dont have to keep typing the passphrase for authentication to a
remote host. Passwordless access. As I'd previously mentioned, this
setup works fine in X11 under linux. I have this setup in Cygwin as
well, and it works fine,
except for executing ssh -X from window manager menu items.
 
> > ssh -X works when executed
> > from an xterm inside X11 Cygwin, just not from the window manager menu.

> Try running this command from an xterm and not from a menu item (at least
> until you get it working), because this way you can immediately see any
> error messages.

As stated above, this works from an xterm.
 
> First thing you should do is to use the "-v" (verbose) option of ssh to
> get more information.
> Maybe the remote server does not allow X11 forwarding?

Since this works under Linux, its not a server issue.
 
> Maybe you need to generate an initial xauthority token in your startx
> script. My .xinitrc currently includes:
> 
>   export DISPLAY=localhost:0
>   xauth generate $DISPLAY
>   xhost -

I tried adding this to .xinitrc, it didn't work. Same behaviour as
before.
 
> BTW: if you always use X11 forwarding (or always use it with some hosts)
> consider setting in your config file:

My servers and clients configurations are fine. Everything works fine
under the various *nix platforms I run, just not under X11 Cygwin.

I even tried sourcing the file that contains the two ssh vars for
ssh-agent functionality from .xinitrc, no go. Neither did it work when I
tried sourcing it as part of the window manager menu item itself.

Under Linux, when one starts X, it looks like the shells environment is
inherited by X, I'm thinking when X is started in Cygwin, such is not
the case?


From jd@iqstor.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jd@iqstor.com (Joseph I. Davida)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Scrolling error message from XWin server
Message-ID: <3C3A17C5.A81B0BA4@iqstor.com>

	After starting the XWin server, from the cygwin dos window,
	by running xinit, XWin emits the following messages:

winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits
per pix
el
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1272 h 993 r 1272 l
0 b 993
t 0
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 5088
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
32
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
> Error:            Can't find file "unknown" for geometry include
>                   Exiting
>                   Abandoning geometry file "(null)"
Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server


After a while (about 10 - 20 minutes), XWin starts to continuously
and rapidly emit this error message out on the dos cygwin window
where xinit was invoked:

winShadowUpdateDDNL () - IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt () failed: 887601c2


Cheers,

Joe


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From bozackt1@ridgecrest.ca.us  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: bozackt1@ridgecrest.ca.us (Tom Bozack)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Sound makes cygwin/xfree86 lock up
References: 
Message-ID: <3C93C04E.6020508@ridgecrest.ca.us>

Harold

Thanks for the tip.  xdpyinfo tells me I'm running XFree86 version 
4.2.0.  This sure sounds like the problem you describe, though.  I used 
sound as the example because the problem occurs with RealPlayer and web 
sites with sound.  I also know that it happens when I set certain KDE 
configuration options such as fade menus.  Do you think that 4.2.0 may 
still have vestages of the problem?

Tom


 > Harold Hunt wrote:
> Tom,
> 
> Sound is not a service provided by *any* X Server (sound is not part of the
> X Protocol).  Therefore it makes little sense that sound events would cause
> Cygwin/XFree86 to lock up.  I suspect that something else is going on.  Are
> you running Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0?  You can check by running
> /usr/X11R6/bin/xdpyinfo from an xterm within Cygwin/XFree86.  I ask this
> because there were problems with versions prior to 4.2.0 where certain
> graphics requests caused the server to freeze... those problems have long
> since been fixed.
> 
> Harold
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
>>[mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Tom Bozack
>>Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 1:13 AM
>>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>>Subject: Sound makes cygwin/xfree86 lock up
>>
>>
>>I'm using cygwin/Xfree86 to login to a KDE session on a Linux host using
>>XDMCP.  Everything works fine until the client requests a service that
>>the server can't provide such as sound.  When that happens the server
>>locks up and becomes unresponsive.  The only way to recover is to
>>restart the cygwin/XFree86 server and login again to the nost compter.
>>Needless to say this is very frustrating.
>>
>>Does anyone know of a way to prevent this from happening other than not
>>do anything that requests sound support (or any other service that
>>cygwin?XFree86 can't provide)?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Tom
>>
> 
> 




From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xwinclip comment
In-Reply-To: <3CDC98910B38EA49AB404A73ACAF70FF18D87C@exmbx03sj.global.cadence.com>
Message-ID: 

Josh,

Originally, I was going to answer your suggestion of using separate threads
with the boilerplate response that, "threads don't fix anything, and they
usually just complicate things".  However, I started thinking about the
problem, and it turns out that threads are pretty useful in this
circumstance.

The reason that xwinclip steals the XA_PRIMARY selection as soon as a client
(xterm) modifies that selection is that xwinclip needs to be the owner of
the XA_PRIMARY selection in order to receive notification when the selection
is updated.  If xwinclip doesn't receive notification of a selection update,
then xwinclip can't copy the new selection data to the Windows clipboard.
The end result would be that you would select data in an X client, but that
data would not be available in Windows.  Actually, the first time that you
select data in an X client it would be available in Windows (as xwinclip
would receive notification upon losing ownership of XA_PRIMARY), however,
subsequent modifications of XA_PRIMARY by either the same X client or
another X client would not cause xwinclip to be notified, thus preventing
the subsequent selections from being available in Windows.

I went ahead and rewrote xwinclip using threads.  Threads make xwinclip a
little less kludgy, but, unfortunately, they don't solve the problem
described above.  That is, we still need a way for xwinclip to be notified
when *any* X client modifies XA_PRIMARY, not just when xwinclip loses
ownership of XA_PRIMARY because an X client has modified it.  Only then will
xwinclip be able to stop stealing ownership of the XA_PRIMARY selection.

It is possible that a simple solution exists... but I haven't yet come
across it.  I'm sure Alan H. will email me immediately afterwards with a
suggestion :)

Hope that helps to explain the undesired behavior,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Josh Baudhuin [mailto:joshb@cadence.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:48 PM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Subject: xwinclip comment
>
>
> Hi, Harold
>
>    Thanks for the xwinclip--I just came across it yesterday and am
> (mostly!) lovin' it. The sole complaint I have is that it seems to
> hijack the selection immediately after it's established in another X
> app. Thus, for example, if I select something in an XTerm, the highlight
> vanishes after I let go of the mouse button.
>    Is this something that requires integration w/ the X server app? Or
> is the problem that you need to avoid having two event loops (one for X
> and one for Windoze)? You might try putting them in separate threads, in
> case of the latter...
>
> --Josh


From gabrielarcos@cantv.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: gabrielarcos@cantv.net (Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Geomview on Cygwin+Xfree
References: <3C878CD9.1909CB6@imag.fr>
Message-ID: <003101c1c5b2$2edef9e0$0400000a@CANTV.NET>

I try to compile but a can't. I will apreciate a cygwin-xfree binary version
of geomview, or hints to get it compiled.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Georges-Pierre Bonneau" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 11:52 AM
Subject: Geomview on Cygwin+Xfree


> Hy,
>
> Does anyone have tried to compile geomview
> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/geomview) on cygwin-xfree?
> Would someone be interested by a cygwin-xfree version of geomview?
>
> Thks,
> -- GP


From cpraber@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cpraber@yahoo.com (Raber Chris)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window.
Message-ID: <20020111155909.19544.qmail@web13507.mail.yahoo.com>

> 
> So did you try running an XDMCP desktop with the
command line 
> interface that I
> mentioned in the last mail?

Unfortunately the machine is physically remote from me
and I am not root, so I haven't been able to try this
yet. I do intend to try this, but it's going to take a
little while...

The documentation on XDMCP present on the cygwin site
shows how to use XDMCP, but not how to set it up...

> 
> Brian


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From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Mouse-click focus in X ?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020303231716.68899.qmail@web20807.mail.yahoo.com>

This is all up to the Windows Manager you are using... twm doesnt have too many
options... Try IceWM, or KDE.  They have a ton of options, and you can
configure windows actions the way you want.  I *think* IceWM will do it by
default. 

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ported-software.html

B



--- Lars Jensen  wrote:
> How do I get the MS windows-like mouse-click focus behavior in X windows? I
> want a window to become active first when I click within the window area.
> (Presently a window becomes active when I place the mouse within the
> window area.) I'm using standard Cygwin-xfree setup with twm.
> 
> Thanks for any answers,
> Lars.
> 
> --
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From rkarcher@frey.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rkarcher@frey.de (Reinhard Karcher)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xserver crashes on kde 2.2.1's kate
In-Reply-To: <003a01c18c53$f935a060$205c07d5@BRAMSCHE>
References: <003a01c18c53$f935a060$205c07d5@BRAMSCHE>
Message-ID: <20020102080559.GA610@kar.berlin.frey.de>

On Mon, Dec 24, 2001 at 09:21:23AM +0100, Ralf Habacker wrote
> while porting kde 2.2.1 to cygwin I recognized a xserver crash while starting kate. 
> The error is: 
> 	Fatal server error:
> 	negative sized edge?

I saw messages like this last summer, they had dissapeared when I
returned from holidays August the 20th. Check, if you are using the latest
X-Server. Try Harold's latest Testversion.

Reinhard


From phil@dmillard.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: phil@dmillard.com (Phil Humpherys)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X browser
Message-ID: <20020125154041.A5152@nimbus.dmillard.com>

I'd sure like to get an X browser running in xfree.  I don't seem to be
able to get netscape or mozilla to work in cygwin-xfree.

Any suggestion?  Thanks in advance.


From nicolae_santean@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nicolae_santean@hotmail.com (Nicolae Santean)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xdvi question
Message-ID: 


Hi, has anybody installed xdvi on XFree86/cygwin?

I have tried it using xdvi 22.53 downloaded from

   http://www.math.berkeley.edu/~vojta/xdvi.html
   ftp.math.berkeley.edu

and it gives runtime errors. Does anybody have a
success story?

Nic.

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From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: alternate display number
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020208165436.21997.qmail@web20808.mail.yahoo.com>

Yes, simply modify the script you run X from to contain the command line
paramater of :N

Example : Xwin.exe :12 -ac -terminate

This exmple will start the X server as server 12 instead of the default of 0,
without access control, and terminate when the last client leaves.

Brian


--- John Bay  wrote:
> Is it possible to bring up the X server under a display number other than 0
> (e.g. ...:1.0 instead of ...:0.0)?  This would be useful for those of us
> with a home LAN talking to the internet through a router and forwarding
> incoming X traffic based on port number.
> 
> --
> 
> Thanks,
> John Bay
> 


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From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: How can i link to X11 with gcc?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020218214246.81711.qmail@web20806.mail.yahoo.com>

You are on the right track by using -L/usr/X11R6/lib as your library.  Also,
-lX11 is correct, but you are missing some others...  For instance, XDrawPoint
is located in (I think) libXaw.a, so you also need -lXaw .  I have noticed that
some X calls are located in libraries that you wouldnt normally expect on other
*nix platforms.  Just keep adding libraries, until you have no more
dependencies.  Very often, for a smiple X app, I often find libraries such as
ICE and SM are also needed.

The way I find the lib to use, I use `nm /usr/X11RC/lib/*.a > ~/nmout`.  This
finds the symbols that the libraries use, and puts it to a text file.  I then
search for the symbol gcc is complaining about, and then search up for the
library associated with it.  There might be a better way, but this works pretty
well for me.

Brian


--- Oleg Giwodiorow  wrote:
> Hi,
> I suppose this question is stupid, but i can not figure it out myself...
> 
> How can i link to X11 libraries with gcc ?
> 
> if i try to compile with :
> "gcc -L/usr/lib -lX11 ..." i recieve the error message :
> "cannot find -lX11"
> 
> If i change the makefile, so the path is setted, where the libX11.a is :
> "gcc -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 ..." i recieve lots of errors like :
> "undefined refernce to 'XDrawPoint'"
> Most of the listed Functions are includet with Xlib.h (i suppose all, but
> they are to many to verify each of them).
> 
> Excuseme for my weak english and
> thank You;
> Oleg
> 


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From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Geomview on Cygwin+Xfree
In-Reply-To: <009c01c1c5d6$a6821260$0400000a@CANTV.NET>
References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C266AAAF@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
	<009c01c1c5d6$a6821260$0400000a@CANTV.NET>
Message-ID: 

/ "Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta"  wrote:
| there is something like make log? I can see in the console all the error
| report

Hey copy'n'paste from the console.. ;-)

Hmm maybe you can do "make > logfile.txt 2>&1" in bash

        /Andy

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From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DirectDrawCreate
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:

> The calls to DirectDrawCreate in Cygwin/XFree86 files are exactly as they
> would be if using Visual C++.

The parameters to the calls are ok. I'm just wondering if the change from
late to early binding might cause some trouble.

> What are you talking about?  I never got an address to DirectDrawCreate from
> GetProcAddress.  Is there something in the ddraw.h or objbase.h that causes
> this to happen?

in winengine.c, line 86. Via GetProcAddress you get the symbol from the dll

      /* Try to get the DirectDrawCreate address */
      fpDirectDrawCreate = GetProcAddress (hmodDirectDraw,
              "DirectDrawCreate");

and in line 110, you the call the function. 

      ddrval = (fpDirectDrawCreate*)(NULL, &lpdd, NULL);

I replace this call with

      ddrval = DirectDrawCreate(NULL, &lpdd, NULL);

which causes the symbol DirectDrawCreate to be linked explicitly into the
code at link-time instead of the first variant, where it is linked at run-
time.

bye
    ago
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From jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk (Jeremy Wilkins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Windows based app.server
References: <200202061327.SM00180@itst38.denefield.org.uk>
Message-ID: <02f401c1af19$9ca3d3b0$0e00000a@athlon>

Sounds like your best bet is a MS server with Terminal Services + RDesktop
as the linux client.

I had a look on the RDesktop site and it supports Win2k as the server. For
NT4 you'll need NT Terminal Server. I'm not sure about Win2k, I know 2k
Server includes Terminal Services, but I'm not sure if this is enabled for
multiple logons, I'd guess it is though.

You could also use citrix metaframe, but it'll probably cost quite a bit
more (but more functionality, such as sound across the network).

Jeb

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Howells" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: Windows based app.server


> > From: Rasjid Wilcox 
> > This will at least partly do what you want (although only for one user
at
> a
> > time, due to windows single user structure).
>
> Yes, that is the problem :(
>
> I need it to support multiple users on the network, so unfortunately VNC
> isn't really an option.
>
> Thanks
> Chris Howells
>
>


From Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com (Cary Jamison)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Log filling up
Message-ID: 

Modifying the code to put the log in /dev/null certainly doesn't seem like an attractive solution.  If I were to go that far, I would rather just search for where the particular message is output that is causing the problem and disable it.

Do others not have this problem?  The only unique thing about my setup is that I use Andrei Gourianov's goScreen as a virtual desktop manager under windows.  I haven't tested to see if this affects the XWin.log or not.  I can't imagine that it would, since the log fills up even when my desktop is set to the one where X is running, so it shouldn't see any difference.

What is the purpose of this message (winCursorOffScreen () - hmm...)?  It seems pretty useless.

It would seem like a good idea to be able to configure where the log file goes, though.  I never like seeing such things hard coded in a program.

Cary

---
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Cary.Jamison@PowerQuest.com
(801) 705-8685 voice
(801) 705-4685 fax


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: In XFree, WIN-E to start Windows Exporer causes taskbar hang
In-Reply-To: <20020220134200.D895@rover.bates-haus.org>
Message-ID: 

I cannot duplicate that behavior on Windows 2000.

Works for me.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Nikolaus Bates-Haus
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 1:42 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: In XFree, WIN-E to start Windows Exporer causes taskbar hang
> 
> 
> I didn't see anything about this in the mailing list archives:
> Cygwin/XFree 4.2.0 (and prior versions)
> Cygwin DLL 1.3.9 (and prior versions)
> When I try to open a Windows Explorer using the Win-E keyboard shortcut
> (Windows key, E), the explorer window doesn't open and the 
> taskbar freezes.
> I can still Alt-TAB between applications, and start things from 
> the desktop,
> but can't do a thing with the taskbar.
> After a long time (1/2 hour to an hour; not sure if it's the 
> length of time
> or me doing something) Explorer will start, and the taskbar will 
> come back.
> 
> This ONLY happens when Cygwin has keyboard focus.
> It only happens when using the keyboard shortcut; starting from the start
> menu, desktop or existing window doesn't do it.
> Once it happens, I can still start Windows Explorer from the desktop.
> Don't know about other keyboard shortcuts.
> 
> -nik


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
Message-ID: 

You need to be following the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide instructions for
installation... not the XFree86 general instructions.  The Cygwin/XFree86
User's Guide is located at:

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of
> egon.phillips@sympatico.ca
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 12:43 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to install cygwin/XFree86. I have run into trouble
> during the last
> two steps of the installation procedure, contained in the
> following document.
>
> Installation Details for XFree86[tm] 4.2.0
> The XFree86 Project, Inc
> 16 January 2002, Abstract
> (AKA INSTALL)
>
> Development Environment
> Win 2K, cygwin 1.3.10, Visual C++ EE, Progres 7.2
>
> Here is the output from the final two steps:
> .........
>
> admin@BigRed@GOONMUNSTER /home/TEMP
> $ /sbin/ldconfig /usr/X11R6/lib # For Linux
> bash: /sbin/ldconfig: No such file or directory
>
> admin@BigRed /home/TEMP
> $ /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/X11R6/lib # For FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD
> bash: /sbin/ldconfig: No such file or directory
>
>
> Can someone tell us how to solve this problem without compiling any code?
>
> Is the ldconfig utility somewhere in the cygwin distribution? If
> not where can
> we get a binary?
>
>
> Thanx Egon.
>


From strube@physik3.gwdg.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: strube@physik3.gwdg.de (Hans Werner Strube)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: ssh2 in xterm problem
Message-ID: <200203140919.KAA24151@r2d2.physik3.gwdg.de>

I have the Windows version of ssh2 (SSHWinClient-3.1.0-build235 from ssh.com)
installed. Besides the Windows GUI client, there is also a command line
client ssh2. This works well from the Cygwin login shell. But when I call
it from an xterm shell in XFree86-4.2.0, the password prompt appears not
in this shell but in the login shell from which X was started. I tried to
enter the password there but without any effect. When I enter the password
in the xterm, it is echoed and has no effect either.
What is the reason for this strange behaviour, and can it be circumvented?
(Well, don't tell me I could install openssh; this seems to indicate a basic
problem to be solved!)


From spetreolle@yahoo.fr  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X browser
In-Reply-To: <000d01c1a69e$596a0b10$b66607d5@BRAMSCHE>
Message-ID: <20020126233828.17522.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Ralf and others,

KDE is alpha, that's a fact.
But I wait the installation of cygwin/XFree as
packages...
Then you'll be able to put KDE installable as a cygwin
package ! 
* sad because m$ programs reinstall every library they
need whithout any notion of packaging *

 --- Ralf Habacker  a
??crit??: > > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of
> Sylvain Petreolle
> > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 4:17 PM
> > To: cygx
> > Subject: RE: X browser
> >
> >
> > Hi Harold and all,
> >
> > You're right,
> > Konqueror is working under KDE.
> 
> But please note that this is currently in alpha
> state :-)
> 
> Ralf
> 
> > 
> > > Note: The kde-on-cygwin project may have
> Konqueror
> > > working.
> > >
> > > http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/
> > >
> > > Hope that helps,
> > >
> > > Harold
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>  

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From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Corinna Vinschen [mailto:cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 5:06 AM
> To: Cygwin-Xfree
> Subject: Re: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 09:30:05AM +0100, Ralf Habacker wrote:
> > I have done some analysing work with this and with the
> > cygwin daemon (cygserver transport classes) there may be a 
> way in the 
> > future to implement unix domain sockets with named pipes 
> which speed 
> > up unix domain sockets up to 250 MB/s, as I have measured 
> with a quick 
> > an dirty sample
> 
> Fine.  But how do you implement them on 9x/Me?

Perhaps the same way I implemented FIFO's, but easier as the semantics
seem less complex to me. 

Anyway, sure we don't need to have bot NT and 9x all at the same time...

Rob


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Geomview on Cygwin+Xfree
In-Reply-To: <003101c1c5b2$2edef9e0$0400000a@CANTV.NET>
References: <3C878CD9.1909CB6@imag.fr>
	<003101c1c5b2$2edef9e0$0400000a@CANTV.NET>
Message-ID: 

/ "Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta"  wrote:
| I try to compile but a can't. I will apreciate a cygwin-xfree binary version
| of geomview, or hints to get it compiled.

How far have you come (could it be that you miss lesstif)?? This I
think is more like a question for the geomview project.

Try google ;-)

        /Andy

| 
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Georges-Pierre Bonneau" 
| To: 
| Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 11:52 AM
| Subject: Geomview on Cygwin+Xfree
| 
| 
| > Hy,
| >
| > Does anyone have tried to compile geomview
| > (http://sourceforge.net/projects/geomview) on cygwin-xfree?
| > Would someone be interested by a cygwin-xfree version of geomview?
| >
| > Thks,
| > -- GP
| 
| 

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Andrew,

I'm mirroring it right now... nobody else download from the link below.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Andrew Markebo
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 4:50 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)
> 
> 
> Throw a browser at:
>         http://flognat.myip.org/xbase 
>                 (ehm cable-modem, so it is not that fast, would
>         apreciate if someone with faster connection could mirror it ;-))
> 
> xbase, one package with all the required files.. 
> 
> There are couple of small quirks, but I thought you should throw an
> eye on it before I fixed those.. ;-) at least it fires up when I start
> startxwin.bat.
> 
> A couple of setup questions...  
> 
> * Is it ok to ask the user questions and so on in the postinstall
>   script??
> 
> * there are some questions in the xinstall script about manually
>   adding stuff to the termcap database, asks if it should replace some
>   files.. do we need to do anything there?
> 
> Some of the files are read-only, meaning that overwriting them can't
> be done, don't know if it is anything to worry about? (It was just me
> who had problems continuing a aborted installation)
> 
> I am just mainly exercising :-) Feeling around with the setup and so
> on, assuming that I would do the version where we took all the
> tgz-files and made setup.hints for them all, where in the hierarchy
> should they be put??
> 
> cygwin/contrib/xfree/Xbin/setup.hint
>                      Xbin/Xbin.tgz   
>                      Xetc/setup.hint
>                      Xetc/Xetc.tgz
> or  
> 
> cygwin/contrib/Xbin/setup.hint
>                Xbin/Xbin.tgz   
>                Xetc/setup.hint
>                Xetc/Xetc.tgz
> 
> When planning for this, I have the thought of basically,
> startup-scripts requires Xbin.tgz Xdoc.tgz Xetc.tgz Xfenc.tgz 
> Xfnts.tgz Xlib.tgz Xman.tgz 
> Xxserv.tgz.. these require startup-scripts (hmm maybe rename to 
> xstartupscripts?)
> 
> the other packages like Xf100, Xfscl, Xnext.. requires
> startup-scripts.. 
> 
>         /Andy
> 
> -- 
>  The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!
> 


From tzafrir@technion.ac.il  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: tzafrir@technion.ac.il (Tzafrir Cohen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 4.2.0
In-Reply-To: <20020121070130.GA12251@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Christopher Faylor wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 08:51:52AM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> >On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Robert Collins wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> All that should be needed (as a starting point) for a setup.exe based
> >> distribution (if your current tarballs are rooted at / ) is to
> >> * Create a src package(s) as appropriate. You can have one for all the
> >> binaries (*)
> >> * Rename any hardcoded config files that users might change to
> >> foo.default or similar.
> >> * If you've got scripts to do post-extraction tasks, such as create
> >> desktop icons or the like, place them in /etc/postinstall/packagename.sh
> >
> >But examine them first, and decide if they can't be run earlier (while
> >creating the package). A complecated post-install script calls for
> >troubles.
> >
> >> * Create setup.hint files - one per .tar.gz|bz2/
> >> * Check with http://www.cygwin.com/setup.html to see if anything has
> >> been missed.
> >>
> >> (*) via a little trickery.
> >
> >The X server needs to be in a seperate binary package (as it is likely to
> >change). The libraries should be in a seperate package, as I might be
> >using them to run programs with a different X server.
> >
> >Further separations can probably made (separate fonts packages, separate
> >documentation packages, etc. Think of all the choices that the install
> >script gives youon what to install).
> >
> >I hope someone cares enough to take this task. Installing this bunch of
> >tarballs with the strange install script (that required me write
> >permission to the directory of the tarballs, for instance) proved to be a
> >real pain. And I'm a bit afraid of upgrading it...
>
> Why not use the current RPM layout?  This is what I have on my system right now:
>
> XFree86-Xvfb-4.0.3-1
> XFree86-doc-4.0.2-0.2
> XFree86-Xnest-4.0.3-1
> XFree86-4.0.3-1
> XFree86-libs-4.0.3-1
> XFree86-xf86cfg-4.0.3-1
> XFree86-devel-4.0.3-1
> XFree86-tools-4.0.2-0.2
> XFree86-xfs-4.0.3-1

Fonts are also in a seperate package, IIRC.

Anyway, these are the packages from Mandrake 8.1:

XFree86-100dpi-fonts
XFree86
XFree86-75dpi-fonts
XFree86-cyrillic-fonts
XFree86-devel
XFree86-doc
XFree86-glide-module
XFree86-libs
XFree86-server
XFree86-static-libs
XFree86-xfs
XFree86-Xnest
XFree86-Xvfb

(version is 4.1.0-17mdk)

But the most important is to separate the X server to another package from
the X clients. This will enable people to easily test a new X server.
Other parts of the package are quite mature.

-- 
Tzafrir Cohen
mailto:tzafrir@technion.ac.il
http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir




From piyush@acm.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: piyush@acm.org (Piyush Kumar)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Start Problem
Message-ID: 


I'm getting the same problem as the mail stated below,
Anyone has ideas how to solve it??

=====================================================
$ ./startxwin.bat
startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows NT/2000
xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0
twm:  unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0.0"
xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0
xsetroot:  unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0'
=====================================================

Other startup scripts too fail, giving one or the other
similar result,

Thanks,
--Piyush

hi,

I just install the latest versions of cygwin and XFree86.
I use a medion notebook with XP Window.

I meet a problem to start the server X.

-> If I try "sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh" the error message is :

xsetroot : unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0'
twm : unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0.0"

-> If I try "startx" the error message is now :

xinit : Connection refused (errno 111) : unavble to connect to X server
xinit : no such process (errno 3) : Server error


I find some thing about the first message in the FAQ but this does not
help me.

Thanks you for your help and your proposals

mb



From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfree as part of the Cygwin net distro
Message-ID: <20020111164002.L12057@cygbert.vinschen.de>

Hi,

is there any effort to pack the XFree stuff so that it can become
part of the Cygwin net distro at one point?

That would allow to extend the net distro by all that nice X stuff
as glib, gtk+, gvim, xchat, (just to name some of them) etc.

Corinna

-- 
Corinna Vinschen                  Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to
Cygwin Developer                                mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com
Red Hat, Inc.


From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: IceWM?
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683340@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>


maybe your IceWM failed to start.  Try starting it from xterm window.  It
should show you errors if it is crashing.

Suhaib

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sean LeBlanc [mailto:sean@nutros.com] 
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 11:15 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: IceWM?
> 
> 
> Earlier I asked about window managers - I'm trying to get 
> IceWM working for the time being. I downloaded binary 
> edition, changed startxwin.sh according to directions, and 
> run startxwin.sh. The server comes up with a green 
> background, and an xterm...but the xterm doesn't look right 
> (no edges or title bar), and there is nothing else on the 
> screen.  Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong here?
> 
> Cheers,
> Sean
> 


From kk@eq.ufrj.br  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: kk@eq.ufrj.br (Marcus Vinicius Eiffle Duarte)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: How to compile WindowMaker?
References: <00b201c19912$26242a90$7747a492@eq.ufrj.br> <7113429480.20020109145451@familiehaase.de>
Message-ID: <008b01c199da$f38ed930$7747a492@eq.ufrj.br>

Thanks, Gerrit. Yet, it seems I did not know where to append the -lX11
option. However, I solved the compilation problem disabling the locale
setting, by running the configure utility with the --disable-locale option.

Marcus Vinicius Eiffle Duarte

> Marcus,
>
> 2002-01-09 14:43:55, du schriebst:
>
> > I am trying to compile WindowMaker 0.80 under Cygwin.
> [...]
>
> >  ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lintl
> >     ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a(wapplication.o): In function
> > `WMInitializeApplication':
> >     /tmp/wm/WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs/wapplication.c:39: undefined
reference
> > to `_Xsetlocale'
>
> > a) help me and tell me how to successfully compile WindowMaker under
Cygwin?
>
> You probably want to add libX11.a (-lX11) to your link line?
>
> > b) tell what is the program ldconfig?
>
> You don't need that for Cygwin.  The shared libraries are in /usr/bin or
> /usr/local/bin and are looked up via PATH by the linker.
>
>
> Gerrit
> --
> =^..^=
>


From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Please help: XDMCP connection dog-slow
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020326211002.23003.qmail@web20804.mail.yahoo.com>

Are you connected through dialup, or some sort of WAN?  X doesnt work too well
across long distances... even if there is a lot of bandwidth... it's a latency
thing.

B


--- "Palic, Darko"  wrote:
> Do you use a novell logon?
> If so I?m not sure if it is the problem, but could you try to resolve the
> names of both computers?
> Try to logon onto your linux and try to resolve the other computer name, and
> also the other way (logon on client try to resolve the linux box)
> 
> best regards,
> Darko
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > thanks for your answer. I'll mail this personally since I'm not
> > sure it's of common interest for the list.
> >
> > > how do you connect to the mandrake? Via DNS names or via IP?
> >
> > IP. Novell stuff (IPX) performs normally, so does ping and VNC.
> > everything else (ftp, xdm) is terribly slow.
> >
> > > Then the login appears, are tere any differences in the
> > performance during
> > > the session?
> >
> > The login screen appears *very slowly* and after quite some time.
> > Login, wait two minutes for your desktop (just fvwm) to appear.
> > Open a terminal, wait for the window, wait for the shell. And so on ...
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Edi
> >
> 


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From rkarcher@frey.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rkarcher@frey.de (Reinhard Karcher)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xserver crashes on kde 2.2.1's kate
In-Reply-To: <002e01c19372$27ea35e0$865c07d5@BRAMSCHE>
References: <20020102080559.GA610@kar.berlin.frey.de> <002e01c19372$27ea35e0$865c07d5@BRAMSCHE>
Message-ID: <20020102095543.GB610@kar.berlin.frey.de>

On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 10:45:04AM +0100, Ralf Habacker wrote
> BTW: Can anyone tell me, when this patch will go into the official cygwin xfree release ?

IIRC, XFree86 4.2.0 is approaching. So, we wont't see any new 4.1.0 releases
and we have to wait for 4.2.0

Reinhard


From chrish@gmx.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: chrish@gmx.co.uk (Chris Howells)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Windows based app.server
Message-ID: <200202061144.SM00180@lib15.denefield.org.uk>

With an X server running on a Win32 machine, it's possible to run X
applications (e.g. on Linux) and have them sent over the network to appear
on the Win32 machine.

However, has anybody tried the other way around -- having Windows
applications appearing on a Linux desktop, the Windows applications all
being run through a specific Windows (NT) based application server?

For example, imagine a network running almost entirely Linux, but needing
to run a few legacy Windows applications. What I would like is for the user
(sitting in front of Linux box with X) to be able to click on an icon for a
Windows application, causing the application to start running on a Windows
(NT) based application server. The program would entirely run on the
Windows server, but the screen output would be sent over the network so it
could be controlled by the user sitting on their Linux/X machine.

I'm just wondering if this is possible?

Many thanks,
Chris Howells


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: How can i link to X11 with gcc?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

/ "Oleg Giwodiorow"  wrote:
| Hi,
| I suppose this question is stupid, but i can not figure it out myself...

No questions is stupid.. just the answers.. or ehm.. ;-) well dumb I
suppose.. 

First error, telling gcc which libs to use have to be in the end of
the link command, so instead of "gcc -lX11 foo.c" it should be "gcc
foo.c -lX11", I have seen this 'problem' many times now, why do you
have the libs first?? Inheritance from VisualC/C++?

Secondly well the X11 libs is in /usr/X11R6/lib, so that should be in
the linkpath yep.. 

If the two above comments don't help you, add  -lXext -lICE -lXaw and
maybe -lXmu to the link line.

        /Andy

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From jbertran@cirsa.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jbertran@cirsa.com (Joan Bertran)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin Xfree 4.1.0 or 4.2.0 with old clients
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 


  From Linux machine running XFree86 4.1.0 or 3.3.6 HPP boxes
  work properly, I think that mounts are correct
  as I don't have any problems reading SecurityPolicy file
  or rgb.txt (though i had to change them by linux versions
  without CR-LF)

  Also the cygwin-Xfree86 (4.2.0) doesn't process the third mouse
  button depending on which mouse driver you have on NT4
  (emulate3buttons always works). The mouse is a 3 button Logitech
  and the logitech drivers changes the behaviour even with windows
  programs like Netscape 6.2.1, with the standard PS/2 the third
  button is correct. The bad news is that this doesn't solve
  the problem with HP boxes



----------------
Notes:

My stripped down installation looks like

C:.
+---bin
+---etc
?   +---X11
+---tmp
?   +---.X11-unix
+---usr
    +---X11R6
        +---bin
        ?   +---401
        +---lib
            +---X11
                +---fonts
                ?   +---100dpi
                ?   +---75dpi
                ?   +---CID
                ?   +---local
                ?   +---misc
                ?   +---Speedo
                ?   +---Type1
                ?   +---util
                +---xserver
                +---xsm


----- Command line
START "XFree86" /B XWin420 -ac +kb -xkbmap %XKEYBOARD% -query
%1 -wm -fullscreen\
 -dpi 100 -once -unixkill -nowinkill -class HCLpcXserver -emulate3buttons
(with bc parameter HP is the same)

------ XWin.log
ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1152 h 864
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per
pixel
winAllocateFBShadowDD () - Not changing video mode
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 32
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
--------------------------------

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
> Enviado el: martes 29 de enero de 2002 18:02
> Para: Joan Bertran; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Asunto: RE: Cygwin Xfree 4.1.0 or 4.2.0 with old clients
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Try this:
>
> From Linux machine running XFree86 4.1.0 or XFree86 4.2.0, see
> how remote X
> Clients running on your HP boxes work.
>
> Interpretation of results:
>
> 1) If the behavior of the Linux box is the same as Cygwin/XFree86
> 4.1.0/4.2.0 then the problem has to do with XFree86 and its underlying
> libraries (but has nothing to do with the Cygwin/XFree86 X Server).  This
> does not mean there is a bug in XFree86.  It could be that Xlib from HP-UX
> is known not to be compatible with the X standard (that's the way it is
> with
> Sun's Xlib, I believe).  In this case, your best bet is either to search
> for
> an updated X Window System from HP, or to install XFree86 for HP-UX (I
> believe it exists).
>
> 2) If the behavior of the Linux box is the same as Cygwin/XFree86 4.0.1,
> then there may be some sort of compile time error being built into
> Cygwin/XFree86's libraries, or perhaps you've got an issue with
> binary/text
> mounts on your Cygwin installation (I'm not certain that could affect the
> mouse in X).
>
>
> So, go forth and test!  :)
>
> Harold
>
>


From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Please remove "sourcemaster" link from cygwin-xfree page
In-Reply-To: <20020106003218.GA16828@redhat.com>
References: <20020106003218.GA16828@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20020106005823.GA17177@redhat.com>

On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 07:32:18PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>I'd like to request that the 'sourcemaster@cygnus.com" address be
>removed from the cygwin-xfree web pages.  In 99.99% of the cases, I've
>found that people send inappropriate mail there -- mail that should
>really go to the project mailing list.
>
>My theory is that "sourcemaster" sounds like an individual while a
>"mailing list" is a potentially frightening place filled with hostile
>users.
>
>Regardless, I've removed it from the cygwin mailing list.  I was
                                             web page.

cgf


From gdenis@fr.uu.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: gdenis@fr.uu.net (Gabriel DENIS)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Languages under Cygwin/XFree
References: <3C83EEC5.2020500@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <001201c1c41e$a79cd220$c32e62c2@gdenis>

You can type setxkbmap fr , or put this in your .bashrc off your remote
host. It's not the best solution but I don't find where is the default
parameter....

Gab


----- Message d'origine -----
De : "NGUYEN DINH Quoc-Huy" 
?? : 
Envoy?? : lundi 4 mars 2002 23:01
Objet : Languages under Cygwin/XFree


> Hi,
>
> I want to use Cygwin/Xfree86 with a French Keyboard, but when
> connecting to a remote host through XDMCP the input are in
> US kbd format.
>
> How can I reconf this ?
> Thnx
>


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ?
In-Reply-To: <20020129115059.41932.qmail@web20809.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

Brian,

> Make sure you are running engine 4.

That is somewhat misleading advice.  There is code in the server that
detects which engines types are supported.  Engine 4, the best performing
engine, is used whenever it is supported.  Thus, to tell the user to use
engine 4 is likely to just send them on a wild goose chase.  Jean-Marc has
Windows 2000 which means that DirectX 4+ is installed, so XWin will always
use engine 4 on his system.

Harold


From philburk@softsynth.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: philburk@softsynth.com (Phil Burk)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: missing telnet, solution
References: <002401c1d1c1$6c49e540$640aa8c0@topdog> <20020322183421.GJ25487@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <00e501c1d1d6$634ad660$640aa8c0@topdog>


> I'm at a loss understanding why Cygwin/XFree86 would need to tell people
> that ssh and telnet are required.  Neither is needed for X applications.

Many people use XWindows on a PC to communicate to remote Unix computers.
This is very common for telecommuters. The Installation Guide tells you how
to do this but the instructions do not work.

http://cygwin.com/xfree/docs/ug/using-remote-apps.html

They fails because these instructions do not tell you to download telnet:

http://cygwin.com/xfree/docs/ug/setup-cygwin-downloading.html

It says "All packages, downloaded size of 56.1 MiB as of 2001-04-19, are
selected for download by default; I do not recommend changing the list of
packages to download unless you really know what you are doing." But in my
case, only some of the packages were selected by default. Perhaps SETUP.EXE
has changed. So I had to go back and get telnet and ssh.

Perhaps the instructions could say that IF you plan to use telnet or ssh you
have to select them and then tell how. It would haved me several hours time.

Thanks!
Phil Burk




From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: missing telnet, solution
In-Reply-To: <008e01c1d304$b7c0f290$640aa8c0@topdog>
Message-ID: 

Phil,

I'll change the wording in that section of the User's Guide to reflect that
not all Cygwin packages are selected by default.  Thanks for pointing that
out to me.

Sorry, it gets a little rough around here sometimes because we don't have
many contributors.  :(

Note, the update won't go in immediately, but it shouldn't take more than a
few weeks.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Phil Burk
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 2:23 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: missing telnet, solution
>
>
> From: "Christopher Faylor" 
> > wasn't.  It never occurred to us that people wouldn't be able to figure
> > out that you could click on things and see packages to install.  But,
> > that was the case.
>
> Give me a break. I'm not stupid.  The documentation for Cygwin/XFree said
> "All packages, downloaded size of 56.1 MiB as of 2001-04-19, are selected
> for download by default; I do not recommend changing the list of
> packages to
> download unless you really know what you are doing:". This is on page:
>
>    http://cygwin.com/xfree/docs/ug/setup-cygwin-downloading.html
>
> I just followed the docs and it didn't work because telnet was
> missing. All
> I am suggesting is that the documents be updated so that if people follow
> them then they will be successful. I also suggested adding a line to the
> Cygwin package list that says "You can use SETUP.EXE from the installer to
> add packages from this list.". It was not obvious to me that the same
> installer is used for installation and also for adding packages after
> installation.
>
> I also publish free software so I appreciate the eforts that have
> gone into
> Cygwin and XFree86. But when people tell me that they have
> problems with my
> docs, then I try to correct them (the docs, not the people). I don't
> understand why there has been so much resistance from this group
> to making a
> couple lines of change to the docs.  They are simply out of date and could
> easily be corrected.
>
> Sometimes things seem obvious to the developer but only because the
> developer already knows them. It is possible that reasonably intelligent
> people cannot read the developers mind and may need to read the docs
> instead.
>
> Phil Burk
>
>


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From nik@bates-haus.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nik@bates-haus.org (Nikolaus Bates-Haus)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: In XFree, WIN-E to start Windows Exporer causes taskbar hang
Message-ID: <20020220134200.D895@rover.bates-haus.org>

I didn't see anything about this in the mailing list archives:
Cygwin/XFree 4.2.0 (and prior versions)
Cygwin DLL 1.3.9 (and prior versions)
When I try to open a Windows Explorer using the Win-E keyboard shortcut
(Windows key, E), the explorer window doesn't open and the taskbar freezes.
I can still Alt-TAB between applications, and start things from the desktop,
but can't do a thing with the taskbar.
After a long time (1/2 hour to an hour; not sure if it's the length of time
or me doing something) Explorer will start, and the taskbar will come back.

This ONLY happens when Cygwin has keyboard focus.
It only happens when using the keyboard shortcut; starting from the start
menu, desktop or existing window doesn't do it.
Once it happens, I can still start Windows Explorer from the desktop.
Don't know about other keyboard shortcuts.

-nik


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Scrolling error message from XWin server
In-Reply-To: <200201081702.g08H2Iq04376@davida.com>
Message-ID: 

On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Joseph Davida wrote:

> 	The XKB is a one shot error message, and it always appears.
> 	I have commented out all xkb... settings from /etc/X11/XF86Config,
> 	so I dont know where they are comming from.
> 	Also, should not the xkb files be part of the Win32 XFree86
> 	distribution? I installed all of the stuff in the distribution
> 	using the Xinstall.sh script. If the dist does not have these
> 	xkb files, where can I obtain them from?

I don't know if they are, but for some development releases they are
needed. 

I guess you still have the original XWin.exe installed by Xinstall.sh. 
So XF86Config is not used. If you're using a test release, then use the
switch XkbDisable in XF86Config.

But the Xkb problem should not cause the other error message.

> winShadowUpdateDDNL () - IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt () failed: 887601c2

Please try starting XWin with the config switch -engine 16
If it does not work, replace the 16 by 8, 4, 2 and 1 and see if anything 
changes.


> 	I have tried to use xdm. The login banner comes up, but
> 	it does not recognize the passwords. Using the passwd
> 	command to set a particular password does not help. 

Xdm does not work properly on Windows.

> xset q > /dev/null 2>&1 &

What's this? you request status information and direct the output to
/dev/null? That's strange.

Please keep responses to the mailing list. It will help _you_ that more 
people can follow the troubleshooting and may give hints.

bye
	ago
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 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017


From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:

> Alexander,
> 
> Because the following article:
> 
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/wcegmm/htm/
> ddover_51.asp
> 
> states that:
> 
> "BltFast cannot be used on surfaces that have an attached clipper."

Ok.
 
> We use a clipper to account for any other Windows window overlaying our
> window, which would cause a portion of our blit destiation to be
> undrawable... which would mean that we wouldn't be allowed to use BltFast.
> 
> Now... could we use BltFast in DirectDraw fullscreen modes?  

Not needed. The blitting does not slow down the server significantly. I
think the cygwin socket layer slow much more. 

> But, you are welcome to try it...

Hell no ;) It was just a thought. 

bye
    ago
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From rdicaire@ardynet.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rdicaire@ardynet.com (R Dicaire)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: ssh X11 Forwarding from menu in window manager
Message-ID: <3C4AE4C6.41FD521E@ardynet.com>

Hi, I'm trying to get ssh X11 forwarding working via a menu item in
a window manager (fvwm2) under X11 Cygwin. For the record, it works fine
under X11 Linux/blackbox.
In Cygwin, I startx, fvwm2 starts, my menu items for ssh -X are there,
but when I execute them, they just don't work. I watch the cygwin term I
started X from for errors, there are none, the Taskbar button for the
cygwin terminal however indicates "xauth", and the remote app does not
start up in my X11 session.
All my ssh keys are correctly configured, ssh -X works when executed
from an xterm inside X11 Cygwin, just not from the window manager menu.

I use ssh -X as a replacement for rsh to start remote X11 apps.

Am I missing something?

Please reply direct as I'm not on the list, thanks.


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygprce.dll missing from one of my friends postgreSQL-installation?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

Not really xfree problem, but /etc/setup contains lists of which
modules contained which files.. 

do a zgrep for cygprce.dll there and voila ;-)

        /Andy

| is there any fast method for checking which package contains dll which is
| missing from the cygwin-installation?

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From hainesr7@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: hainesr7@hotmail.com (Rob Haines)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Remote tasks sleeping after 'su'
Message-ID: 

Hi,

I've been using Cygwin for a while now but am new to cygwin-xfree. I hope
this question hasn't been answered before but I did check the archives and
didn't find anything pertinent.

I use this system to log into other systems (via ssh -X) and have the
windows displayed on my cygwin-xfree desktop. If I run something as myself
then everything is fine. If I log in, then 'su' to root, then run something
the window never appears. If I look at 'top' then the task I just started is
flagged as sleeping. This problem does not occur when using the putty/exceed
combination to log in to my remote machine. I haven't tried logging straight
in as root, because our security policy does not allow it. Is this a
cygwin-xfree issue, or something else?

Thanks in advance,

Rob Haines
--
hainesr7@hotmail.com


From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xwinclip not waiting for x server startup (was xwinclip
 authorisation)
In-Reply-To: <032a01c19e08$3fcbeaa0$2102a8c0@motile.net>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Matthew Donald wrote:

> I'm still puzzled by the security issues.  Does XDMCP cause the localhost to
> lose access to the X server?  I'm creating a /etc/X0.hosts file to ensure
> that localhost retains access.  Is there a better way?

Yes. Getting the autorization via xauth/Xauthority. But this is quite tricky
for our need. 

Maybe a solution with windows-clipboardserver and unix-clipboardclient 
(running as native X11 application on solaris/linux/cygwin) would be the best
but requires some time and developers.
    
bye
    ago
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From tzafrir@technion.ac.il  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: tzafrir@technion.ac.il (Tzafrir Cohen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:

> Tzafrir,
>
> > A simpler suggestion:
> >
> > telnet to port 6000 of the windows machine from the linux server.
> >
> > A connection should be established (whatever the X configuration is). If
> > no connection is established then something is wrong.
>
> That's not a simpler test... it won't give any new information.
>
> We already know that something is wrong, the issue now is to find out what
> is causing the problem.
>
> If you noticed, he said that he _sometimes_ gets an XDM login screen.The
> test you describe will probably _sometimes_ work, which does nothing to tell
> us where the problem is coming from.

If a cleint is not able to connect to an X server it may be because the
client or the server processes are misconfigured, or because the network
configuration below is screwed-up.

telnet to port 6000 verifies that the network layer probably works.

Also try doing a large file transfer, to verify that the connection is not
very bad and gets disconnected.

I believe that this will eliminate any networking wierdness and allow to
focus on X (mis)configuration issues.

(And it is much simpler than setting a seprate network with static IPs)

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From agb@bogdanov.fsbusiness.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: agb@bogdanov.fsbusiness.co.uk (Alex Bogdanov)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: 8+24 bit display for XFree Cygwin ?
References: 
Message-ID: <3C7AB0A8.7080701@bogdanov.fsbusiness.co.uk>

    Harold,
Sorry for delay with my reply. Unfortunately I do not know such 
solution. Exceed have such ability - so I think that it's
possible.
    I will try to continue looking for solution and will let you know if 
I will be able to find one.
        Regards,
        Alex

Harold Hunt wrote:

>Alex,
>
>I implemented the 8 bit color support in Cygwin/XFree86 and I've looked at
>several ways of running with support for two color depths at once... I was
>unsuccessful.
>
>If there is such a method, I would like to know about it.
>
>Harold
>



From IMN383@compuserve.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: IMN383@compuserve.de (Mike)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Did you get your check ?
Message-ID: 

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From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: "X connection to 127.0. ...explicit kill..."
In-Reply-To: <3CA07145.7AB4C71E@acsu.buffalo.edu>
References: <20020326014057.65843.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com>
	
	<3CA0641A.9786EDBF@acsu.buffalo.edu>
	
	<3CA07145.7AB4C71E@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Message-ID: 

/ Ed Conrad  wrote:
| Why don't you please re-read the original message.   I explained what happens
| when I run the bat files.

sorry, I became blind on the issue when starting xwin.exe, missing
cygwin1.dll, that wasnt the error you received first..

hmm checking the log files at my end shows much more info about
graphics and so on after those two lines, what computer/os/shoesize do
you have?

        /Andy 

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: MI keyboard input - automatic repeat?
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020219213248.B2658@fairlite.demon.co.uk> 
Message-ID: <20020219223231.D2658@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 04:48:02PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
> Alan,
> 
> I tried that just now.  It didn't make any difference... which makes perfect
> sense.
> 
That's what I thought too.  Although we should still remove the 
BlockHandler code.

Alan.


From phil@dmillard.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: phil@dmillard.com (Phil Humpherys)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: image viewer?
Message-ID: <20020131140215.A21277@nimbus.dmillard.com>

I'd sure like to have an image viewer of some kind in cygwin-xfree.
I couldn't get xv to compile...  anyone have any suggestions?


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Problems getting xfree up and running was: Re: question
In-Reply-To: <20020314114238.85695.qmail@web14901.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20020314114238.85695.qmail@web14901.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

/ payam payami  wrote:
| Hi,
|    How can i send a question to mailing list?
| I'm subscribe in your site with enclosed e-mail  

Well this mail came there so you managed to do it :-) Lets get started!

Gentlemen, this fellow of ours is having a problem, he have downloaded
xfree, installed it, I think all by the manual.. (I assisted him a
little and can fill out with some of my thoughts)

When he runs startxwin.bat/sh the X-window pops up, but then
closes. Reading the /tmp/Xlog.txt (or what the file is called) the
last thing printed there was that it couldn't find font fixed, when
doublechecking he seemed to have the font 6x13-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz in
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc

(dug up the fontfilename from my fonts.alias and fonts.dir)

(Payam, send the logfile to the list)

He has two network cards, could it be something there messing up??

        /Andy

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Brian,

Oops... there wasn't a note about W2K in the original message... I just saw
it there even though it wasn't :)

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 1:52 PM
> To: Brian Genisio; Jean-Marc Paulin; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ?
>
>
> Brian,
>
> No problem.  Hey, the funny thing is that I didn't know what OS he was
> running either.  As I was writing, I glanced back to his original message
> and saw W2K... kinda weird that we both missed that on our first read.
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Brian Genisio
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:18 PM
> > To: Harold Hunt; Jean-Marc Paulin; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: RE: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ?
> >
> >
> > Appologies... This is something I knew, but worded my statement
> > wrong.  At the
> > time, I did not know the OS, or how he was starting the X server
> > (could have
> > been command line)... My statement was more to explain that the
> -engine 1
> > option should not have been used.... One of those "I knew what I meant"
> > statements...
> >
> > Anyways,  sorry... not good at getting my point across.
> > B
> >
> >
> > --- Harold Hunt  wrote:
> > > Brian,
> > >
> > > > Make sure you are running engine 4.
> > >
> > > That is somewhat misleading advice.  There is code in the server that
> > > detects which engines types are supported.  Engine 4, the best
> > performing
> > > engine, is used whenever it is supported.  Thus, to tell the
> user to use
> > > engine 4 is likely to just send them on a wild goose chase.
> > Jean-Marc has
> > > Windows 2000 which means that DirectX 4+ is installed, so XWin
> > will always
> > > use engine 4 on his system.
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions!
> > http://auctions.yahoo.com
>


From busicomputers@nosend.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: busicomputers@nosend.com (BCA)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: A lo hecho, ¡pecho! (y te ayudamos un poco más...)
Message-ID: 

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From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
In-Reply-To: <002d01c1c9a0$1ce1b970$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>
References:  <002d01c1c9a0$1ce1b970$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>
Message-ID: <20020312190601.J29574@cygbert.vinschen.de>

On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 09:30:05AM +0100, Ralf Habacker wrote:
> I have done some analysing work with this and with the
> cygwin daemon (cygserver transport classes) there may be a
> way in the future to implement unix domain sockets with
> named pipes which speed up unix domain sockets up to 250
> MB/s, as I have measured with a quick an dirty sample

Fine.  But how do you implement them on 9x/Me?

Corinna

-- 
Corinna Vinschen                  Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to
Cygwin Developer                                mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com
Red Hat, Inc.


From agb@bogdanov.fsbusiness.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: agb@bogdanov.fsbusiness.co.uk (Alex Bogdanov)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: glib & gtk+ software under Cygwin ... 
Message-ID: <3C7AB3D4.5070302@bogdanov.fsbusiness.co.uk>

    Hello gtk+/glib Cygwin experts,
I am trying to get gpsdrive software work under Cygwin. I managed to 
compile it (minor changes to source code)  but
when I try to run it - I got very slow results (graphics _very_ slow) 
and I got following errors when I start it:

---cut---
** WARNING **: Unable to load module: libpixbufloader-png.so: dlopen: 
Win32 error 126
---cut---

System uses gtk+ / glib (1.2.10)

Regards,
Alex

BTW gpsdrive homepage http://freshmeat.net/projects/gpsdrive/



From kiviapaja@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: kiviapaja@hotmail.com (Janne Naukkarinen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Using XFree without any network connection
Message-ID: 

Is it possible to use XFree86 for Cygwin without
any network connection in single computer?

If this is not, how *this* is possible,  if some want
to develop X applications on home?

               Janne Naukkarinen
               kiviapaja@hotmail.com



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From kathy@artaxi.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: kathy@artaxi.org (kathy)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: www.Aerotaxi.net
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From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Using XShm and cygipc
In-Reply-To: 
References: <008901c1ab36$fc0abb70$0e00000a@athlon> 
Message-ID: <20020201173511.T2617@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

You also need the cygipc libraries which are not part of the standard
cygwin distribution mechanisms before the modification below will work.

Alan.

On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 12:07:36PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
> Jeremy,
> 
> You need to do two things:
> 
> 1) Create the file xc/config/cf/host.def.  Put the following line in the
> file:
> #define UseCygIPC 1
> 
> 2) Follow the instructions for compilation in the Cygwin/XFree86
> Contributor's Guide.
> 
> 
> I don't recall if we decided that the Shm support was stable or not...
> you'll find out though, I am sure.
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jeremy Wilkins
> > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 10:42 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Using XShm and cygipc
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Looking through the archives I've found various references to XShm, but
> > haven't been able to work out how to set it up. I've currently got cygipc
> > compiled and installed, I'm trying to work out how to compile in XShm
> > support - the archive mentions changing command lines, but which ones?
> >
> > Sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm not overly familiar with
> > Makefiles.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
> >


From staf.verhaegen@imec.be  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: staf.verhaegen@imec.be (Staf Verhaegen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfs under Win2k
References: 
Message-ID: <3C8CA73F.D9534832@imec.be>

Alexander Gottwald wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Sergei Lodyagin wrote:
> 
> > In Linux I can write the line in my /etc/X11/XF86Config:
> > "unix/:7100"
> > to use the xfs.
> > My question is: how I can do it under Win2k?
> 
> Haven't I answered such a question last week? Anyway: The cygwin/xfree
> Xserver does not support the XF86Config file. To use the fontserver you
> have to start XWin with the parameter -fp tcp/hostname:7100 maybe the unix
> notation will work too, but I have not verified it.

I think documenting the -fp option in the command line parameters section of
the User's guide can reduce the numbers of these posts.

Staf.


From tzafrir@technion.ac.il  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: tzafrir@technion.ac.il (Tzafrir Cohen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: ssh X11 Forwarding from menu in window manager
In-Reply-To: <3C4AE4C6.41FD521E@ardynet.com>
Message-ID: 

On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, R Dicaire wrote:

> Hi, I'm trying to get ssh X11 forwarding working via a menu item in
> a window manager (fvwm2) under X11 Cygwin. For the record, it works fine
> under X11 Linux/blackbox.
> In Cygwin, I startx, fvwm2 starts, my menu items for ssh -X are there,
> but when I execute them, they just don't work. I watch the cygwin term I
> started X from for errors, there are none, the Taskbar button for the
> cygwin terminal however indicates "xauth", and the remote app does not
> start up in my X11 session.
> All my ssh keys are correctly configured,

This is probably irrelevant. X11 forwarding is generally not related to
how you authenticated.

> ssh -X works when executed
> from an xterm inside X11 Cygwin, just not from the window manager menu.
>
> I use ssh -X as a replacement for rsh to start remote X11 apps.
>
> Am I missing something?

Try running this command from an xterm and not from a menu item (at least
until you get it working), because this way you can immediately see any
error messages.

First thing you should do is to use the "-v" (verbose) option of ssh to
get more information.
Maybe the remote server does not allow X11 forwarding?

Maybe you need to generate an initial xauthority token in your startx
script. My .xinitrc currently includes:


  export DISPLAY=localhost:0
  xauth generate $DISPLAY
  xhost -

('xhost -' is not mandatory, but can help prevent some neighbours from
sniffing your dipplay)

There are probably better ways of doing this (suggestions anybody?), but
it currently works for me.

BTW: if you always use X11 forwarding (or always use it with some hosts)
consider setting in your config file:

Host = *
  ForwardX11 = yes

or:

Host = somehost
  ForwardX11 = yes

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From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XWin w2k xdmcp-query - no valid address
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Alexander Gottwald wrote:

> is tok0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=6.201.253.220 correct?
> 
> If so then I can create support for tokenring in the cygwin library.

Can you please download ls_netdev again. I small changes and token ring
is accepted now (at least by this tool, but this is the first step toward 
a cygwin patch)

bye
    ago
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From kelly@atlitics.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: kelly@atlitics.org (kelly)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: www.Aerotaxi.net
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
In-Reply-To: <002d01c1c9a0$1ce1b970$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>
Message-ID: 

Ralf,

Those are some very interesting results.  I especially like the ones where
Cygwin is 10 to 1000 times slower than Linux :)  Oh well... I can't bitch
anymore for fear of obligating myself to contribute to Cygwin proper.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ralf Habacker
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:30 AM
> To: Cygwin-Xfree
> Subject: RE: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
>
>
> >
> > On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
> >
> > > Alexander,
> > >
> > > Because the following article:
> > >
> > >
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=
> > /library/en-us/wcegmm/htm/
> > > ddover_51.asp
> > >
> > > states that:
> > >
> > > "BltFast cannot be used on surfaces that have
> > an attached clipper."
> >
> > Ok.
> >
> > > We use a clipper to account for any other
> > Windows window overlaying our
> > > window, which would cause a portion of our blit
> > destiation to be
> > > undrawable... which would mean that we wouldn't
> > be allowed to use BltFast.
> > >
> > > Now... could we use BltFast in DirectDraw
> > fullscreen modes?
> >
> > Not needed. The blitting does not slow down the
> > server significantly. I
> > think the cygwin socket layer slow much more.
>
> Do you have seen the lmbench results on the cygwin list
> http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2002-01/msg01719.html
> This confirm your statement.
>
> *Local* Communication bandwidths in MB/s - bigger is better
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Host                OS  Pipe AF    TCP  File   Mmap  Bcopy
> Bcopy  Mem   Mem
>                              UNIX      reread reread (libc)
> (hand) read write
> --------- ------------- ---- ---- ---- ------ ------ ------
> ------ ---- -----
> BRAMSCHE  CYGWIN_NT-5.0 93.9 17.6 40.7  335.0  477.7  145.0
> 134.0 477. 195.9
> BRAMSCHE   Linux 2.2.18 343. 235. 64.4  177.7  238.5   71.5
> 61.4 238.  75.3
>
> I have done some analysing work with this and with the
> cygwin daemon (cygserver transport classes) there may be a
> way in the future to implement unix domain sockets with
> named pipes which speed up unix domain sockets up to 250
> MB/s, as I have measured with a quick an dirty sample
> implementation. (Unfortunally currently I have no time to
> work on)
>
> Another way seems to me in using local connection for the
> xtrans layer, but there are two ioctl functions missing in
> cygwin I_FDINSERT and I_RECVFD.
>
> I_FDINSERT
> Creates a message from specified buffer(s), adds information
> about another STREAM, and sends the message downstream.
>
> I_RECVFD
> Retrieves the reference to an open file description from a
> message written to a STREAMS-based pipe using the I_SENDFD
> command, and allocates a new file descriptor in the calling
> process that refers to this open file description.
>
> In any case there is some work to do.
>
> Regards
> Ralf
>
>


From sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com (Sam Edge)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Ttmkfdir TrueType font directory prep tool (binary for Cygwin)
References: 
Message-ID: 

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"Harold Hunt"  wrote in message
news:NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCKEEHCMAA.huntharo@msu.edu...

> I downloaded ttmkfdir, ran it, and successfully added my TrueType
> fonts to the available fonts in XWin using xset.  However, I have
> tried numerous times, all unsuccessful, to start XWin with only the
> TrueType fonts via the -fp and -fn parameters to XWin.
> The first modification to make is obviously:
> XWin -fp /cygdrive/c/WINNT/Fonts
> I know that the above is correct, because if you drop the trailing
> 's' you'll get an error that the font path can't be added.  Thus,
> the font path command is correct.  However, you then get the "could
> not open default font 'fixed'" error.
> To fix the default font error I have tried to change the default
> font with the -fn paramter:
> XWin -fp /cygdrive/c/WINNT/Fonts -fn "Microsoft Sans Serif"
> or
> XWin -fp /cygdrive/c/WINNT/Fonts -fn Verdana
> I have tried tons of variations on the above, including lower case
> versions of the font names, quotes, no quotes, etc., but all of
> them result in the error of the form "could not open default font
> 'Microsoft Sans Serif'". I'm stumped.  I can't understand why I can
> see the Microsoft Sans Serif (albeit, in all lower-case) font in
> the list of fonts provided by
> 'xfontsel', yet I can't seem to specify a new default font.
> Specifying the font path and a new default font on the command line
> is highly desireable for the people that are trying to develop the
> absolute minimum size Cygwin/XFree86 distribution as possible.
> If anyone has any hints, I'd appreciate it.

Harold,

I'm glad you're finding it useful. It's certainly made my X desktop a
little less bland. I'm using Comic Sans for the font specifications
in system.twmrc! ;-)

Anyway, back to the problem.

First of all, you need to use X font naming for parameters like "-fn"
so the line you want might be something like;

XWin -fp  -fn
'-*-verdana-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1' &

Make sure that you include the quotes otherwise the shell (or
cygwin1.dll) will expand the font name as a filename. You can use the
interactive xfontsel program to choose which font you want and to
copy the resultant name to the X clipboard using the "Select" button.
(If you're using a non-X editor, run xwinclip first to copy the X
clipboard to the Windows one as well.)

I've not tried it but XWin is probably assuming that certain basic
fonts are always available. You may therefore need to keep some of
the supplied X fonts. Either check the source or do a little more
trial and error to eliminate first the unneeded font directories and
then the unneeded fonts from the remaining ones.

Remember that if you use the "-fp" parameter you need to include all
the font directories i.e. it doesn't add the directory you specify to
the default font path that it already has.

I'm using something very similar to the following in startxwin.sh;

# Assemble the font path string
addfp () {
  if [ -r "$1/fonts.dir" ]; then
    if [ -z "$fp" ]; then
      fp="$1"
    else
      fp="$fp,$1"
    fi
  fi
}
unset fp
addfp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc
addfp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
addfp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
addfp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID
addfp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
addfp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
addfp /cygdrive/c/WINNT/Fonts
addfp /cygdrive/c/WINNT/Fonts/Uninstalled
# Start the X Server.
XWin -fp $fp &

The small shell function allows me to look in various places for X
font directories without lots of empty ones needlessly slowing things
down. It also makes editing the script less error prone. (The
Uninstalled folder is created by a ZDNet Windows utility called
FontViewer 2.0, by the way.)

- -- 
Sam Edge

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From szydek@uiuc.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: szydek@uiuc.edu (Steven T. Zydek)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: All text being echoed in Xterms
Message-ID: <20020130115220.C9338@uiuc.edu>

Hi There,

I'm a newbie to Cygwin/XFree. I just installed Cygwin 1.3.7/Xfree v4.2 on my 
sunpci card (basically, an Intel-based motherboard w/AMD processor running in 
a Sun box) running WinNT 4.0. All the software has installed perfectly. I can 
start up bash shells within Cygwin just fine, X starts up without any error 
messages (using the default startx scripts) and xterms/xclock appear fine.

My trouble is that anytime I try to type (enter commands) in an xterm, 
all text gets echoed twice. So, if I type: 'ls -al[ENTER]' , I get the 
following spewed back:

llss  --aall [CR]
[CR]
me@machine bash>


me@machine bash>

---
I tried to determine whether it's Xwin or the xterm. (NOTE: the Cygwin shells
do NOT have this problem). From what I can tell it is Xwin causing the problem. 
I was able to display a remote xterm window from a Sun box and had the same 
trouble where everything was echoed. I checked newsgroups, faqs, web, etc. and
no luck. Any ideas?

Thanks for any help you could provide!

Thanks,
+Steve


From jhobro@gatwick.westerngeco.slb.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jhobro@gatwick.westerngeco.slb.com (James Hobro)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: image viewer?
References: <20020131140215.A21277@nimbus.dmillard.com>
Message-ID: <3C5A7B47.9000502@gatwick.westerngeco.slb.com>

Phil Humpherys wrote:

> I'd sure like to have an image viewer of some kind in cygwin-xfree.
> I couldn't get xv to compile... anyone have any suggestions?


I found that xv 3.10a required only minor configuration tweaks before it 
compiled under Cygwin/XFree. Try the procedure outlined below.

James Hobro.

----------

Edit xv.h and comment out some lines as follows:

| 65c65
< #ifdef LINUX
---
 > /* #ifdef LINUX
69c69
< #endif
---
 > #endif*/
118c118
< # ifndef __NetBSD__
---
 > /* # ifndef __NetBSD__
120c120
< # endif
---
 > /*# endif */
|

Then edit the Makefile and make the following changes:
|
4,5c4,5
< CC = cc
< # CC = gcc -ansi
---
 > #CC = cc
 > CC = gcc -ansi
105c105
< #MCHN = -DLINUX
---
 > MCHN = -DLINUX -L/usr/X11R6/lib -I/usr/X11R6/include
|

Finally, make sure that /bin/csh is symlinked to /bin/tcsh:
|
cd /bin
ln -sf tcsh.exe csh.exe
|
Source code available from http://www.trilon.com/xv/downloads.html.


-- 
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Project Geophysicist, Earth Models Development
WesternGeco, Schlumberger House, Gatwick Airport
Tel: +44 (0)1293 556119, Fax: +44 (0)1293 556800



From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xwinclip comment
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020123135606.17362.qmail@web20802.mail.yahoo.com>

Yeah, my comment was meant more for brainstorming, than a "best" solution...

Is the lastest xwinclip source (the one with threads) available?  I've got some
pretty good X programmers at my office (including myself).  I might be able to
look at it, and talk it over with my peeps :)  

Brian 


--- Harold Hunt  wrote:
> I think it goes without saying that the primary goal is to avoid all polling
> solutions until any other feasible solution has been ruled out.  We're still
> in the stages of ruling out other possibilities.
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian Genisio [mailto:briangenisio@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 7:34 AM
> > To: Harold Hunt; Josh Baudhuin
> > Cc: cygx
> > Subject: RE: xwinclip comment
> >
> >
> > Well, I havent seen the code in a while, but I assume that you you use a
> > standard X event loop...
> >
> > while(!done)
> > {
> >   wait_for_events()
> >   if(is_property_notify)
> >     read_and_handle_property()
> >   send_event_to_x()
> > }
> >
> > Might you, instead, change this from event driven to polling?
> >
> > while(!done)
> > {
> >   read_property()
> >   if(new_property != known_property)
> >     copy_property()
> >   sleep
> > }
> >
> > This way, you dont need to register for events on the property.
> >
> > You could sleep for 250 ms for instance, which, in worst case, is
> > probably long
> > enough. (warning : usleep() is not thread safe, so you could probably use
> > signals to handle a timeout).  OR, you could throw this into xt,
> > and use the
> > timout capability, but that seems like too much for too little.
> > Also, dont
> > forget to use semaphores when copying (and reading from the
> > windows thread) the
> > known_property.
> >
> >
> > I hope this helps in the brainstorming process, at least,
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Harold Hunt  wrote:
> > > Josh,
> > >
> > > Originally, I was going to answer your suggestion of using
> > separate threads
> > > with the boilerplate response that, "threads don't fix
> > anything, and they
> > > usually just complicate things".  However, I started thinking about the
> > > problem, and it turns out that threads are pretty useful in this
> > > circumstance.
> > >
> > > The reason that xwinclip steals the XA_PRIMARY selection as
> > soon as a client
> > > (xterm) modifies that selection is that xwinclip needs to be
> > the owner of
> > > the XA_PRIMARY selection in order to receive notification when
> > the selection
> > > is updated.  If xwinclip doesn't receive notification of a
> > selection update,
> > > then xwinclip can't copy the new selection data to the Windows
> > clipboard.
> > > The end result would be that you would select data in an X
> > client, but that
> > > data would not be available in Windows.  Actually, the first
> > time that you
> > > select data in an X client it would be available in Windows (as xwinclip
> > > would receive notification upon losing ownership of
> > XA_PRIMARY), however,
> > > subsequent modifications of XA_PRIMARY by either the same X client or
> > > another X client would not cause xwinclip to be notified, thus
> > preventing
> > > the subsequent selections from being available in Windows.
> > >
> > > I went ahead and rewrote xwinclip using threads.  Threads make
> > xwinclip a
> > > little less kludgy, but, unfortunately, they don't solve the problem
> > > described above.  That is, we still need a way for xwinclip to
> > be notified
> > > when *any* X client modifies XA_PRIMARY, not just when xwinclip loses
> > > ownership of XA_PRIMARY because an X client has modified it.
> > Only then will
> > > xwinclip be able to stop stealing ownership of the XA_PRIMARY selection.
> > >
> > > It is possible that a simple solution exists... but I haven't yet come
> > > across it.  I'm sure Alan H. will email me immediately afterwards with a
> > > suggestion :)
> > >
> > > Hope that helps to explain the undesired behavior,
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Josh Baudhuin [mailto:joshb@cadence.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:48 PM
> > > > To: huntharo@msu.edu
> > > > Subject: xwinclip comment
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi, Harold
> > > >
> > > >    Thanks for the xwinclip--I just came across it yesterday and am
> > > > (mostly!) lovin' it. The sole complaint I have is that it seems to
> > > > hijack the selection immediately after it's established in another X
> > > > app. Thus, for example, if I select something in an XTerm,
> > the highlight
> > > > vanishes after I let go of the mouse button.
> > > >    Is this something that requires integration w/ the X server app? Or
> > > > is the problem that you need to avoid having two event loops
> > (one for X
> > > > and one for Windoze)? You might try putting them in separate
> > threads, in
> > > > case of the latter...
> > > >
> > > > --Josh
> > >
> >
> >
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From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Window Maker compilation
In-Reply-To: <200202091156.LAA25351@boothp3.ecs>
Message-ID: 

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, William Greenland wrote:

> I noticed that you have had the same compilation error as me when
> making Window Maker under Cygwin/XFree, namely:

I can not remember ever having built windowmaker. Neither for Linux
nor for cygwin. 

> undefined reference to `_Xsetlocale'
> 
> If you found a fix for this could you let me know the details please?

Recalling what I once read on the mailing list: the X11 library is
either not referenced or the -lX11 switch is at a position.

Checking the archives of the cygwin-xfree mailinglist will give you 
a lot of exacter explanations than I can recall.

CCed to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com

bye
    ago
BTW: I would be pleased if you would send cygwin-xfree specific question 
always to the mailinglist instead of contacting me directly. This will 
raise the chances for getting an answer to your question.
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: FW: problem with keyobord on AIX
Message-ID: 

Pavel forgot to cc the list.

Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz [mailto:Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 1:28 AM
To: Harold Hunt
Subject: RE: problem with keyobord on AIX





> Pavel,

> I still have no idea what is going on.  Is your AIX machine configured to
> expect the Czech keyboard layout?  Or, does your AIX machine expect a US
> keyboard layout?

I don't know which layout it expects, if any. But I use several AIX
machines.
When I logon on console, some of them have Czech layout and some of them
have
US layout. But from cygwin the behaviour is the same
- US layout with -kb parameter
- US layout without -kb parameter and NumLock off
- Czech-with-AltGr layout without -kb and NumLock on

> In fact, I barely understand how the various keyboard layout systems
work...
> nor do I have time to learn the intricacies of them.

> I don't think I'll have any time within the next year to learn keyboard
> layouts, so you'd better just work on it yourself if you want any changes
> made.

May be...

> Sorry, but I am incredibly busy now because I am in my last semester of
> college.

OK, I remember this from my school :-)

Pavel




From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: "X connection to 127.0. ...explicit kill..."
In-Reply-To: <3CA0641A.9786EDBF@acsu.buffalo.edu>
References: <20020326014057.65843.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com>
	
	<3CA0641A.9786EDBF@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Message-ID: 

/ Ed Conrad  wrote:
| cygwin is installd.  This is a bug or somekind or config problem i have.

*bonk* you are trying to run Xwin.exe, what happens if you run
 startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh?? 

Basically the problem is that the environment variable PATH doesn't
contain c:\cygwin\bin, or where you installed cygwin. If I recall
right the startxwin-scripts sets this, but if you want to run without
them, you have to set the path yourself.

[...]

| > | If I try to run XWin.exe, it says that it cant find
| > | cygwin1.dll.

        /Andy
-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From pts@math.bme.hu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: pts@math.bme.hu (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Szab=F3_P=E9ter?=)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: questions
Message-ID: 

Hello!

1. How can I start XFree.exe so the Cygnus/XFree window doesn't appear,
   not even when I start an X client (e.g xterm). I'd like X clients'
   toplevel windows appear as normal, `native' Windows(R) windows.

2. How can I transfer the selection between X11 and Windows? (So I can
   select the URL in Internet Explorer, and start wget inside an xterm
   inside XFree.exe without typing the URL again.)

I'm not a member of the mailing list, so please also reply personally.

pts


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cannot find xwin/xterm/twm
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

What packages did you install? xwin, xterm and twm should be in
/usr/X11R6/bin

Did you search for xwin.exe, twm.exe?? 

If you have them, doublecheck startxwin.bat to make sure it adds the
directory where you installed xwin, xterm and twm


        /Andy


/ "ganesan ramachandran"  wrote:
| hi, i have windows xp pro. i downloaded & installed cygwin and
| xfree86 as per the step by step given in the webpage. when i try to
| open startxwin.bat from windows explorer, i get error messages like,
| cannot find xwin,xterm,twm.. i tried searching for the corresponding
| .exe files through windows search, but couldn't find them. a part of
| cygcheck -s -v -r > cygcheck.out gives the following details:

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From tzafrir@technion.ac.il  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: tzafrir@technion.ac.il (Tzafrir Cohen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X server hangs when adding fonts server
In-Reply-To: <20020116184004.GA27836@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Christopher Faylor wrote:

> This must be a new record.
>
> This is the WRONG MAILING LIST.

Sorry

>
> I've redirected your request to the proper mailing list.

Thanks


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From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Markebo [mailto:flognat@flognat.myip.org] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:17 PM

> | Or, were you planning on keeping the separate .tgz files around too?
> 
> separate .tgz? I The executable tgz's of the xfree package? I 
> am considering giving it a try using them instead.. small 
> ptoblem might be version numbering, can I put version numbers 
> in the hints file? (the dist tgz files today is automagically 
> built by xfree makefile(?) and therefore I don't want to 
> change their name, to get it as easy as
> possible)

Yes, the version number for a file can be explicitly given, but if your
files are non-versioned, you will have mirror site headaches when
updates within an Xfree official release are done.

Versioning the tarballs takes only a couple of seconds - and can be
scripted.

Rob


From darko.palic@gmx.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: darko.palic@gmx.de (Palic, Darko)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xwinclip not waiting for x server startup (was xwinclip authorisation)
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Hello Herold,

I have no idea how to solve the problem with the xwinclip, but I use
xwinclip with XDMCP since it is available. I??m running on different
machines, and a delay of 10 seconds is too short for some machines!
I??m using a sleep 15 directly after starting XWin in XDMCP. The slowest
machine a TP770X (P3-300) had no more problems after setting the delay to 15
seconds, maybe some slower machines could need a longer delay. A mechanism
would be helpfull, there the xwinclip retries to connect to the XServer
every x seconds in overall time of lets say 30 seconds. But, that seems to
be the problem with the libX11. :-(

regards,
Darko


From mika.laitio@sysline.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: mika.laitio@sysline.com (mika.laitio@sysline.com)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygprce.dll missing from one of my friends postgreSQL-installation?
Message-ID: 

Hi,

is there any fast method for checking which package contains dll which is
missing from the cygwin-installation?
I have itself installed cygwin and postgreSQL couple of times to different
computers without big problems.

But now I have noticed that for 3 other people who has tryed to do the
same, has had all kind of problems because of some missing libraries and
dll's.
For now it takes from me a long time to try to quess which package certain
dll which is still missing.

Just for example some minutes ago, one of my friend installed cygwin, and
received message from missing cygprce.dll.
He got this error when he started to initializing postgre-database. Can
somebody tell to me which package contains this dll?
(Or how to search them fastly would be even better...)

Mika


From vervoom@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: getting xfree86 to work without the whole cygwin package
Message-ID: 

Hi,

I've been asked to create an xfree86 package at work which can be installed 
without having to install cygwin as well. I realise I will need the 
cygwin.dll to even have a chance of getting this to work, but wondered if 
anyone could tell me which other components I would need to build this?

JS.


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From nigel@bprj.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nigel@bprj.co.uk (Nigel Hathaway)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Fw: Xfree86 4.2.0: Shell_NofifyIcon Fail
Message-ID: <001901c1a771$3697b6e0$6a01a8c0@bprj.co.uk>

Every few minutes or so (e.g. 10 minutes?) 3 dialog boxes sequentially
appear in Windows: the Xfree86 fullscreen is minimised to do this. The
dialog box is entitled 'Error' and the message is 'Shell_NofifyIcon Fail'.

 I am using w2k with the following command line (from a Windows shortcut):
C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe -fullscreen -nowinkill -once -query
jeeves -xkbmap gb

 My screen is 1600x1200x24bpp Nvidia (DirectDraw - the latest - DirectX 8.1,
I think).

 This error is usually associated with a shell icon (those little ones by
the clock), switch back to windows reveals an ordinary minimised button with
no icon, not a shell icon.

 The version of Cywin/xfree is the latest release, non-development issue,
which corresponds to the latest 4.2.0 of Xfree.

 Regards,
Nigel Hathaway

 ************************************
Barnabas Projects Limited
Tel: +44 117 937 4197
Internet: www.bprj.co.uk



From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Launching Term
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

/ "Robert Mark Bram"  wrote:
| Thank you to Andy and Eugene for their help!
| 
| >I think it should be (not "\"):
| 
| >SET TERMCAP=/etc/termcap
| >SET TERMINFO=/lib/terminfo
| >set SHELL=/bin/bash.exe
| >set TERM=cygwin
| 
| Well turn me purple, wrap me in a curtain and call me Garfield it works!!
| 
| I thought the system translates directory separators but it turns out I was
| wrong for XFree - thanks for leading me true!

It is wrong for XFree, and wrong for Bash.. but there is a small
exception.. bash translates PATH, TMP and TEMP and maybe some
more.. if my memory doesn't fail me as usual.

        /Andy

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: startx.bat missing
In-Reply-To: <20020110105542.24017.qmail@web20105.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20020110105542.24017.qmail@web20105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

The installation guide includes info where to get it from.. 

        http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/setup-cygwin-xfree-installing.html

startup-scripts..

        /Andy

/ dave hmm  wrote:
| I just installed xfree, and i'm missing startx.bat. I
| don't have startx.sh either. How do I make a
| startx.bat file?

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From spam@blackandwhiterainbow.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: spam@blackandwhiterainbow.com (matt rice)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: lieb@sou.edu
Message-ID: <3C9B73F5.2050703@blackandwhiterainbow.com>


http://flognat.myip.org/xbase/




From epconrad@acsu.buffalo.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: epconrad@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ed Conrad)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: "X connection to 127.0. ...explicit kill..."
References: <20020326014057.65843.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com>  <3CA0641A.9786EDBF@acsu.buffalo.edu>  <3CA07145.7AB4C71E@acsu.buffalo.edu> <20020326164529.GA5061@rover.bates-haus.org> <3CA10FD4.3B10E7C6@acsu.buffalo.edu> <20020328191218.GB1022@rover.bates-haus.org>
Message-ID: <3CA3B1A1.75F9E52B@acsu.buffalo.edu>

Hello,
I know I'm not the only one with this prob...here is what i did to get it up.  I'm not
sure how much of this is overkill though...
 (for some reason, just reinstalling xfree didn't fix it)
1. delete cygwin and all shortcuts
2. run regedit, delete all "cygwin" entries
3. reinstall cygwin
4. install xfree: FOR THE TERMCAP AND LINK PROMPS, JUST SAY NO, i.e default enter at
prompt
5. goto /usr/X11R6/bin
6. sh startxwin.sh

This got it working, I haven't checked other ways of launching yet...

Ed

Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote:

> I finally got a chance to check out the config on my home machine.
> I don't have /etc/hosts, either; what I did do was modify startxwin.bat
> (and startxwin.sh) to set DISPLAY to :0.0 - try that.
>
> -nik
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 07:18:29PM -0500, Ed Conrad wrote:
> >
> > Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote:
> >
> > > I ran into something like this setting up my home machine, to which I
> > > don't have access right now.
> > > It ended up being an issue with host / DISPLAY configuration; check out
> > > your /etc/hosts and make sure the entries make sense. I remember I had
> > > to do something with localhost and/or my chosen hostname, and 127.0.0.1,
> > > to get it to work.
> >
> > I dont have that directory.
> > The only host files I found are in a perl scripts folders about 5 levels under the
> > root.  I did not see any display stuff like you talk about in any of them.  Is
> > there no one who knows why I cant get my window up?
> >
> > >
> > > I think that what's happening is that XWin.exe starts, but all clients
> > > fail to connect, so it just shuts down immediately.
> > > I ended up setting my DISPLAY to something other than the default, as well
> > > (try setting your DISPLAY to be just ":0" rather than "127.0.0.1:0")
> > >
> >
> > I tried that in bash, nota.
> >
> > > -nik
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 08:01:58AM -0500, Ed Conrad wrote:
> > > > Why don't you please re-read the original message.   I explained what happens
> > > > when I run the bat files.
> > > >
> > > > The path in the bat files are correct or it would not open the xwindow in the
> > > > first place!  You cant even open startx with the wrong path. I get the startx
> > > > window, the window after that and then the xwin pops up for a second or so
> > > > before it crashes.
> > > >
> > > > Something is going wrong when the xwindow is first opend.  The fact that I
> > > > can't run XWin.exe is just a clue I included because the user guide says I
> > > > should be able to run it.
> > > > Andrew Markebo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > / Ed Conrad  wrote:
> > > > > | cygwin is installd.  This is a bug or somekind or config problem i have.
> > > > >
> > > > > *bonk* you are trying to run Xwin.exe, what happens if you run
> > > > >  startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh??
> > > > >
> > > > > Basically the problem is that the environment variable PATH doesn't
> > > > > contain c:\cygwin\bin, or where you installed cygwin. If I recall
> > > > > right the startxwin-scripts sets this, but if you want to run without
> > > > > them, you have to set the path yourself.
> > > > >
> > > > > [...]
> > > > >
> > > > > | > | If I try to run XWin.exe, it says that it cant find
> > > > > | > | cygwin1.dll.
> > > > >
> > > > >         /Andy
> > > > > --
> > > > >  The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!
> > > >
> >


From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: How to compile WindowMaker?
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683233@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>

you need to link to libX11, and other libs as needed.

Suhaib

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcus Vinicius Eiffle Duarte [mailto:kk@eq.ufrj.br] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 8:33 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: How to compile WindowMaker?
> 
> 
> Hi, folks!
> 
> I am trying to compile WindowMaker 0.80 under Cygwin.
> I have read the README and INSTALL files and did all the 
> things they tell me to do (at least, I guess I did). However, 
> after running the configure utility, I ran the make utility 
> and, at the end of the compiling process I get an error and 
> the program is not built. The lines that show the error are: " ....
>     Making all in Examples
>     make[2]: Entering directory 
> `/tmp/wm/WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs/Examples'
>     /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link gcc  -g -O2  -o 
> connect.exe  connect.o ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a 
> -L/usr/local/lib  -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lintl
>     gcc -g -O2 -o connect.exe connect.o
>  ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lintl
>     ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a(wapplication.o): In function
> `WMInitializeApplication':
>     /tmp/wm/WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs/wapplication.c:39: 
> undefined reference to `_Xsetlocale'
>     collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
>     make[2]: *** [connect.exe] Error 1
>     make[2]: Leaving directory 
> `/tmp/wm/WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs/Examples'
>     make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>     make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/wm/WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs'
>     make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> "
> I also figured that, even though the INSTALL file tells me to 
> run a program called ldconfig after I run make, I do not have 
> a ldconfig.exe in my Cygwin distribution. I am not a C 
> programmer, nor I am a Linux experienced user. Can anybody
> 
> a) help me and tell me how to successfully compile 
> WindowMaker under Cygwin?
> b) tell what is the program ldconfig?
> 
> I tried searching for these answers in the mailing lists 
> archives, but (for some reason I don't know) the pages in the 
> archive do not open in my computer (I always get a time-out 
> after a minute or two). I am running Cygwin 1.3.6 under 
> Windows 2000 SP2 (Brazilian Portuguese). I downloaded 
> WindowMaker-0.80.0.tar.gz from windowmaker.org.
> 
> Thanks in advence,
> 
> Marcus Vinicius Eiffle Duarte, M.Sc.
> 
> Escola de Qu?mica/UFRJ
> Centro de Tecnologia, Bloco E, Lab. 113
> Cidade Universit?ria, Rio de Janeiro, RJ, CEP 20949-900
> Brasil
> Tel: +55 21 2562-7622
> eiffleduarte@ufrj.br
> eiffleduarte@hotmail.com
> ICQ # 20259520
> 
> 


From kahn1@optonline.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: kahn1@optonline.net (Stephen Kahn)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin-xfree with cygwin 1.3.10
Message-ID: <000901c1c32a$d05bbb80$6501a8c0@optonline.net>

I just installed cygwin 1.3.10 and I find that Xfree86 does not work as it used to (with cygwin 1.3.9)
I attempted to start xfree with the standard script "startxwin.sh".  It seems to execute
      XWin -screen 0 1024 768 &
      twm &

When it tries 
      xsetroot -solid aquamarine4      (or any other color)
it stays there indefinitely.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.   Please find XWin.log file attached.  Thanks.
Steve Kahn

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From ssiddiqi@ssiddiqi.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@ssiddiqi.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Geomview on Cygwin+Xfree
In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2B4F9F4@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C266AAAF@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>

Lesstif  (MOTIF) cannot be dynamic of Windows.... Read it in FAQ, I
mentioed it a long time ago.  X11 libraries are not static, they are
dynamic  (I guess DLLs mean dynamic library, right?)


Post your linker error, someone might be able to help you.  Simple
words, "did not compile..."  "I got a linker error" does not give any
information to anyone.

Suhaib

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
> owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta
> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:19 AM
> To: Andrew Markebo
> Cc: Georges-Pierre Bonneau; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: Geomview on Cygwin+Xfree
> 
> the last time I try it, the configuration was successfully, but when I
> try
> to make it the linker stop it with errors. I think is a problem when
> trying
> to link against dinamicaly linked libraries becouse lesstif and X11
> libraries are static on cygwin.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Markebo" 
> To: "Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta" 
> Cc: "Georges-Pierre Bonneau" ;
> 
> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Geomview on Cygwin+Xfree
> 
> 
> > / "Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta"  wrote:
> > | I try to compile but a can't. I will apreciate a cygwin-xfree
> binary
> version
> > | of geomview, or hints to get it compiled.
> >
> > How far have you come (could it be that you miss lesstif)?? This I
> > think is more like a question for the geomview project.
> >
> > Try google ;-)
> >
> >         /Andy
> >
> > |
> > | ----- Original Message -----
> > | From: "Georges-Pierre Bonneau" 
> > | To: 
> > | Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 11:52 AM
> > | Subject: Geomview on Cygwin+Xfree
> > |
> > |
> > | > Hy,
> > | >
> > | > Does anyone have tried to compile geomview
> > | > (http://sourceforge.net/projects/geomview) on cygwin-xfree?
> > | > Would someone be interested by a cygwin-xfree version of
> geomview?
> > | >
> > | > Thks,
> > | > -- GP
> > |
> > |
> >
> > --
> >  The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


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From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X11 includes and libraries path configuration
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268325A@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta [mailto:gabrielarcos@cantv.net]
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 5:25 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: X11 includes and libraries path configuration
> 
> Hi all !!
> 
> I have installed xfree binaries on cygwin, and I try to compile a
> simple
> piece of code:
> 
> #include 
> 
> int main()
> { return 0;}
> 
> and the compiler fail, becouse it can find the file Intrinsic.h
> 
> Actually the file is in /usr/X11R6/include
> 
> what enviroment variable I have to set to the compiler can find it?
> and what
> is the variable to the linker can find the X11 libraries?

e.g gcc -O2 -g mysimple.c -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib 

Suhaib


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Sound makes cygwin/xfree86 lock up
In-Reply-To: <3CA29C7D.3040400@ridgecrest.ca.us>
Message-ID: 

Tom,

I changed xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winkeybd.c/winKeybdBell() to the
following a few weeks ago:
  /*
   * We can't use Beep () here because it uses the PC speaker
   * on NT/2000.  MessageBeep (MB_OK) will play the default system
   * sound on systems with a sound card or it will beep the PC speaker
   * on systems that do not have a sound card.
   */
  MessageBeep (MB_OK);

The previous function called Beep (), which doesn't really work, according
to the message that I put in above.

You could make the function do nothing and see if that helps.  I assume that
you know how to compile Cygwin/XFree86 (if not, see the Contributor's
Guide).

As for XDMCP stability, I and several other people (probably over hundreds)
use XDMCP all the time without any stability problems.  Is there anything
strange about your machine (low RAM, weird NIC (possibly token ring?), or
are you running under Windows 95 or have you had lots of software installed
and uninstalled on your machine (that can cause DLL mismatches, etc.)).  You
could always visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and install all
updates available (that will take several reboots) to see if that helps.

Anyhow, I have to go,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Bozack [mailto:bozackt1@ridgecrest.ca.us]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:31 PM
> To: Perches, Joe
> Cc: 'huntharo@msu.edu'
> Subject: Re: Sound makes cygwin/xfree86 lock up
>
>
> I have no insight into how to debug this problem.  However, I have
> notices that it has the appearance of a massive memory leak.  Whatever
> triggers the problem causes system memory to be rapidly used up at which
> point xfree86 becomes unresponsive.  If left in that state xfree86 will
>   sometimes crash with a segmentation fault.
>
> I hope someone can figure out how to fix the problem.  As it is xfree86
> using xdmcp isn't stable enough on my systems for routine use.
>
> Tom
>
> Perches, Joe wrote:
> > I have an identical problem, and can't figure it out.
> > I've looked through the X code looking for how "ctrl-g"
> > bells are forwarded, but don't see why it's failing.
> >
> > I've looked round through the xfree 86 code and don't
> > see a particular failure mode.
> >
> > Do either of you have a debugging methodology I should
> > follow to trace down this?
>
>
>


From elik@bhphotovideo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: elik@bhphotovideo.com (Eli Kleinman)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: nome-libs-1.4.1.1 make: error please help
Message-ID: <3C98C5FF.13661.208F9DBF@localhost>

Hi

Finally I the configure want with out a problem

But now I do a make and here are the errors that I get

X11 -lm -lz -lm
mkdir .libs
test: no: unknown operand
test: no: unknown operand
test: yes: unknown operand
test: no: unknown operand
test: yes: unknown operand
test: no: unknown operand
test: yes: unknown operand
test: no: unknown operand
test: no: unknown operand
test: no: unknown operand
test: yes: unknown operand
test: no: unknown operand
test: yes: unknown operand
test: no: unknown operand
test: no: unknown operand
test: no: unknown operand
libtool: link: warning: undefined symbols not allowed in i686-pc-
cygwin shared l
ibraries

/usr/local/lib/libgdk_imlib.a(misc.o): In function 
`gdk_imlib_set_color_map':
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/misc.c:79: undefined reference to 
`_imp__gdk_root_pa
rent'
/usr/local/lib/libgdk_imlib.a(misc.o): In function `gdk_imlib_init':
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/misc.c:139: undefined reference to 
`_imp__gdk_displa
y'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/misc.c:594: undefined reference to 
`shmget'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/misc.c:607: undefined reference to 
`shmat'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/misc.c:622: undefined reference to 
`shmdt'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/misc.c:623: undefined reference to 
`shmctl'
/usr/local/lib/libgdk_imlib.a(misc.o): In function 
`gdk_imlib_init_params':
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/misc.c:654: undefined reference to 
`_imp__gdk_displa
y'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/misc.c:1132: undefined reference to 
`shmget'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/misc.c:1143: undefined reference to 
`shmat'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/misc.c:1158: undefined reference to 
`shmdt'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/misc.c:1159: undefined reference to 
`shmctl'
/usr/local/lib/libgdk_imlib.a(utils.o): In function 
`gdk_imlib_create_image_from
_drawable':
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/utils.c:1974: undefined reference to 
`shmget'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/utils.c:1986: undefined reference to 
`shmat'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/utils.c:1991: undefined reference to 
`shmctl'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/utils.c:2006: undefined reference to 
`shmget'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/utils.c:2018: undefined reference to 
`shmat'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/utils.c:2023: undefined reference to 
`shmctl'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/utils.c:2197: undefined reference to 
`shmdt'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/utils.c:2198: undefined reference to 
`shmctl'
/usr/local/lib/libgdk_imlib.a(rend.o): In function `gdk_imlib_render':
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6624: undefined reference to 
`shmget'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6636: undefined reference to 
`shmat'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6642: undefined reference to 
`shmctl'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6666: undefined reference to 
`shmdt'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6673: undefined reference to 
`shmget'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6680: undefined reference to 
`shmdt'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6689: undefined reference to 
`shmat'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6696: undefined reference to 
`shmdt'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6699: undefined reference to 
`shmctl'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6736: undefined reference to 
`shmget'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6748: undefined reference to 
`shmat'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6755: undefined reference to 
`shmctl'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6777: undefined reference to 
`shmdt'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6778: undefined reference to 
`shmctl'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6785: undefined reference to 
`shmget'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6792: undefined reference to 
`shmdt'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6801: undefined reference to 
`shmat'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6808: undefined reference to 
`shmdt'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6811: undefined reference to 
`shmctl'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6933: undefined reference to 
`shmdt'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6934: undefined reference to 
`shmctl'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6937: undefined reference to 
`shmdt'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6938: undefined reference to 
`shmctl'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6963: undefined reference to 
`shmdt'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6964: undefined reference to 
`shmctl'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6967: undefined reference to 
`shmdt'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:6968: undefined reference to 
`shmctl'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:7014: undefined reference to 
`shmdt'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:7015: undefined reference to 
`shmctl'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:7034: undefined reference to 
`shmdt'
/tmp/imlib-1.9.10/gdk_imlib/rend.c:7035: undefined reference to 
`shmctl'
/usr/local/lib/libgdk.a(gdkimage.o): In function `gdk_image_new':
/tmp/gtk+-1.2.10/gdk/gdkimage.c:214: undefined reference to 
`shmget'
/tmp/gtk+-1.2.10/gdk/gdkimage.c:239: undefined reference to 
`shmat'
/tmp/gtk+-1.2.10/gdk/gdkimage.c:247: undefined reference to 
`shmctl'
/tmp/gtk+-1.2.10/gdk/gdkimage.c:270: undefined reference to 
`shmdt'
/tmp/gtk+-1.2.10/gdk/gdkimage.c:271: undefined reference to 
`shmctl'
/tmp/gtk+-1.2.10/gdk/gdkimage.c:287: undefined reference to 
`shmctl'
/usr/local/lib/libgdk.a(gdkimage.o): In function `gdk_image_destroy':
/tmp/gtk+-1.2.10/gdk/gdkimage.c:434: undefined reference to 
`shmdt'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [gnome_segv] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-libs-1.4.1.1/libgnomeui'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-libs-1.4.1.1/libgnomeui'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/gnome-libs-1.4.1.1'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2

Please help thanks
Eli


From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin XFree web page looks odd in Mozilla
Message-ID: <20020117040333.GA5586@redhat.com>

Anyone else noticing that the XFree86 web page looks odd in Mozilla?
Maybe it's because I'm using the latest snapshot but the Project
Overview is showing up under the "left bar".

Btw, I was wondering if you would mind putting a big flashing "Send
Questions Here!" somewhere at the top of the site.  We got three
messages today at cygwin@cygwin.com and I got one at
postmaster@cygwin.com.

This came after I revamped the main cygwin lists.html page to make it
clear that people should think carefully before posting, of course.

Anyway, anything you can do to redirect the clueless will be
appreciated.

cgf


From matthew.donald@motile.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: matthew.donald@motile.net (Matthew Donald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xwinclip not waiting for x server startup (was xwinclip authorisation)
Message-ID: <023701c19dbd$d9cb3e80$2102a8c0@motile.net>

Hi Shane,

Cygwin/Xfree and XDMCP work correctly.  I only get a problem when running a
local X client at the same time as a remote X client (via XDMCP).  It turns
out a /etc/X0.hosts file containing a 'localhost' entry is needed.  Also
xwinclip does not wait for the X server to complete startup, while some
other clients (such as xterm) do.

Any ideas why xwinclip does wait for X server startup?

cheers Matthew

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shane Shields" 
To: "Matthew Donald" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: xwinclip authorisation problem with remote hosts using XDMCP


>
> --- Matthew Donald  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > There is a problem when using xwinclip with an X
> > server which connects to a
> > remote host using XDMCP.
> >
> > Basically the sequence is this:
> >
> > 1.  Execute "XWin :0 -query some.host.system".
> > Initially, the authorisation
> > file contains no records, so the localhost
> > has access to the X server by default.  I quote from
> > the Xserver man page:
> >
> >     If this file contains  any  authorization
> > records,  the
> >     local  host  is  not  automatically  allowed
> > access to the server, and
> > only clients
> >     which send one of the authorization records
> > contained in the file in the
> > connection
> >     setup  information  will be allowed access.
> >
> > 2.  XDMCP is used to query some.host.system, which
> > then opens a connection
> > to the local PC.  The first
> > thing done is that XDMCP adds an auth record for
> > some.host.system  This
> > means that localhost loses access
> > to the X server.
> >
> > 3.  After XWin starts, xwinclip executes on the
> > local host.  It fails with
> > the error message: "Could not open display"
> >
> > Ok, so I added an xhost command, to explicitly allow
> > access:
> >
> >     xhost +127.0.0.1
> >
> > I failed with the error messages:
> >
> >     Xlib: connection to "127.0.0.1:0.0" refused by
> > server
> >     Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to
> > Server
> >
> > I read some more about host access, and I created a
> > /etc/X0.hosts file, and
> > I deleted the .Xauthority file.
> > This caused a different error.  XWin failed with the
> > message: "X connection
> > to 127.0.0.1:3.0 broken
> > (explicit kill or server shutdown)."
> >
> > I tried running XWin with the '-ac' command line
> > parameter.  This is meant
> > to open access to all hosts.
> > Xwinclip still couldn't open the display.
> >
> > If XWin is used with a local window manager, this
> > xwinclip (and any other
> > client program which runs on the PC)
> > will run sucessfully.  However, if XDMCP is used to
> > connect to another
> > system, then it fails.
> >
> > I'm completely stuck.  Any help would be very
> > appreciated.
> >
> > regards Matthew
> >
> >
> >
>
> have you opened up the xdmcp port in hosts.allow
> otherwise it wont let you in
>
>
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From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (James Tetazoo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Which XWin engine is "best"?
Message-ID: 

There seems to be precious little documentation on exactly what 
differentiates one XWin engine from the other (ie. GDI, DirectDraw, 
DirectDraw4, NativeGDI).  This makes it impossible to determine which engine 
it the "best" one to use under which circumstances.

I'd appreciate it if someone could shed a little light on this subject.

Thanks.


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From epconrad@acsu.buffalo.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: epconrad@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ed Conrad)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: placing launched MAGIC 7.1 & app dissappears
References: 
Message-ID: <3CA4EE58.7492AE27@acsu.buffalo.edu>

I have been using the given bat file to launch it.  The line you refer to as
stated in the MAGICXF.bat that launches MAGIC:

start XWin -fullscreen -depth 8 -emulate3buttons

This launches its own window and you can tell it's 8-bit.
I was wondering if I need more RAM on my comp to run it?

I did have it up once and it was slow...
I can't get it back up though.

Ed


Harold Hunt wrote:

> Ed,
>
> Because Magic 7.1 only works when you have Windows in 8 bit color mode, or
> if you run in fullscreen mode at 8 bits per pixel, or if you tell Magic that
> you want it to use OpenGL for graphics.
>
> You can start Cygwin/XFree86 in fullscreen mode at 8 bits per pixel like so:
>
> XWin -fullscreen -depth 8
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ed Conrad
> > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: placing launched MAGIC 7.1 & app dissappears
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I got magic 7.1 installed and trying to run it about
> > 10 times only got the magic window to open once.
> > After that, I can't open it at all.  The full-screen
> > window opens, the app window is on the mouse cusor,
> > but when I place it, it vanishes.
> >
> > Does anyone know why windows vanish like that?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ed
> >
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From rasjidw@bigpond.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rasjidw@bigpond.com (Rasjid Wilcox)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP : Cannot open display - fatal error problem
In-Reply-To: <000901c197fa$ed324f40$36e1c818@videotron.ca>
References: <000901c197fa$ed324f40$36e1c818@videotron.ca>
Message-ID: 

On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:14, richard harvey wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I have been running Cygwin with Xfree for a while now, querying the XDMCP
> server at my work's machine without a hitch - eveything worked just fine. I
> recently installed a second network adapter to share my Internet connection
> with my wife's computer and things still worked fine with Cygwin for a
> while, but I *now* get this message:
>
> "XDMCP fatal error: Session failed Session 13 failed for display
> myhostname.ca:0: Cannot open display."
>
> I'm almost sure it worked OK for a while after I installed the 2nd NIC, but
> now I get the X gray stippled background and nothing else!

Are you sure it worked once the second network card was configured?

Are you using the --from IP.Address.Of.Nic.You.Want.To.Use flag when starting 
XWin.exe?

Failing that, have a look at Alexander Gottwald's ls_netdev at 
http://www-usercgi.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/ at it may help diagnose the 
problem (assuming that it is something to do with the network card and not 
something else).

> I'm baffled now as to what happened. I searched the mailing archives to no
> avail. Has someone out there found and possibly resolved this type of
> problem?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Richard Harvey
>
> Montreal, Qu??bec


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Corinna Vinschen [mailto:cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 5:06 AM
> To: Cygwin-Xfree
> Subject: Re: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 09:30:05AM +0100, Ralf Habacker wrote:
> > I have done some analysing work with this and with the
> > cygwin daemon (cygserver transport classes) there may be a 
> way in the 
> > future to implement unix domain sockets with named pipes 
> which speed 
> > up unix domain sockets up to 250 MB/s, as I have measured 
> with a quick 
> > an dirty sample
> 
> Fine.  But how do you implement them on 9x/Me?

Perhaps the same way I implemented FIFO's, but easier as the semantics
seem less complex to me. 

Anyway, sure we don't need to have bot NT and 9x all at the same time...

Rob


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Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
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From machicaoeduardo@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: machicaoeduardo@yahoo.com (Eduardo Machicao)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Help: OpenDx-Cygwin-Xfree86
Message-ID: <20020107004031.5040.qmail@web20408.mail.yahoo.com>

Dear list,

I have followed the next steps to complete my
Cygwin-XFree86-OpenDx installation:

1. I downloaded and installed tsch 6.11.00-3 and
renamed tsch.exe to sch.exe.

2. Then I installed xpm-nox 4.1.0-1 (initially the
file CYGXPM-X4.DLL was not found).

Now, when I type dx at the $ prompt, I can see the
main menu of OpenDx. But when I try to open any
example file, the next message appears at the $
prompt:
---------------------------------------------------
$ dx
_dxl_ReadPortNumber: Bad file number
timeout waiting for response from DX
Internal error detected at "MacroDefinition.C":631.
No files needed to be saved.
---------------------------------------------------

And a window message:
---------------------------------------------------
"Unable to connect to dxexec"
---------------------------------------------------



Any suggestion would be appreciated,


Eduardo Machicao




--- Suhaib Siddiqi  wrote:
> If I remember correctly, "not found" can be for two
> reasons:
> 
> 1) you may have a text mounted cygwin disk or your
> dxworker script may be in
> DOS format.
> 
> 2) you also need to install tcsh for cygwin else
> edit dxworker script
> 
> Suhaib
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eduardo Machicao
> [mailto:machicaoeduardo@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 12:53 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Help: OpenDx-Cygwin-Xfree86
> > 
> > I am trying to install OpenDx for Cygwin-Xfree86
> under
> > Windows 98. All was according to the instructions
> > given in http://cygwin.com. I used the file called
> > "setup.exe" for Cygwin. For OpenDx, I used
> > "opendx-4.1.3-2-WIN32-setup.zip".
> > I start the X server using "sh
> > /usr/X11r6/bin/startxwin.sh".
> > Typing "dx" at the $ prompt the next message
> appears:
> > 
> > "exec: /usr/local/dx/bin/dxworker: not found"
> > 
> > And calling the *.bat files Buider, Editor, Menu,
> > Prompter, Tutor appears:
> > 
> > "CYGWIN1.DLL: Not Found"
> > 
> > (But I can see "dxworker" and "cygwin.dll" in
> > "c:\cygwin\usr\local\dx\bin\" and "c:\cygwin\bin\"
> > respectively).
> > 
> > The output for the "mount" command at the $ prompt
> is:
> > 
> > $ mount
> > C:\cygwin\bin on /usr/bin type user (binmode)
> > C:\cygwin\lib on /usr/lib type user (binmode)
> > C:\cygwin on / type user (binmode)
> > c: on /cygdrive/c type user (binmode,noumount)
> > d: on /cygdrive/d type user (binmode,noumount)
> > 
> > And my "cygwin.bat" file is:
> > 
> > @echo on
> > C:
> > chdir \cygwin\bin
> > SET oldpath=%path%
> > SET
> >
>
PATH=C:\cygwin\bin;C:\cygwin\usr\X11r6\bin;C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin;%ol
> > dpath%PATH
> > bash --login -i
> > 
> > I know similar questions were posted here before.
> > 
> > Thanks for any help,
> > 
> > Eduardo Machicao Valencia

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From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Do I need X11/R6....... on KDE?
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020110113057.02484ef0@wgmail3.oslo.eur.slb.com>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020110113057.02484ef0@wgmail3.oslo.eur.slb.com>
Message-ID: 

Yep KDE wants X11..

        /Andy

| Question:
| Do I still need X11/R6 X-stuff before I can use KDE? I would like to
| removed them if KDE runs without these X11/R6 binaries.... I am

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From john.turner@pobox.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: john.turner@pobox.com (John A. Turner)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
References: 
Message-ID: <3C87E6AB.3C8B9128@pobox.com>

Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> Egon,
> 
> Why are you telling me this?  I really don't care... you need to send all
> Cygwin/XFree86 related mails to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list.  I will
> reply to such mailings if I believe I can contribute.
> 
> Having said that... ZoneAlarm is the problem and it must be removed (if I
> remember correctly).  If you don't believe me then follow these steps:
> 
> 1) Admit that ZoneAlarm is the problem.
> 
> 2) Remove ZoneAlarm software from your system.
> 
> 3) In the event that step (1) fails, see step (1).

I have no problems running both ZoneAlarm and Cygwin/XFree86 on several
Win2k systems.  Maybe it's because I'm using ZoneAlarm Pro, or maybe it's
that I answered "yes" when I started XWin and ZoneAlarm asked if I wanted
to allow it to access the net and act as a server.

In any event, I thought I should mention that I don't specifically recall
having any trouble getting it to work...

-John Turner


From edi@serbski-institut.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP connection dog-slow (hopefully solved)
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020327.082148.41648857.edi@serbski-institut.de>
	
Message-ID: <20020328.135730.74730706.edi@serbski-institut.de>

> If you are using IPX, and I think you have told me so, the Novell client
> resets the order for the name resolution . Usually the timeout is about 1-2
> minutes. Could you try to uninstall the whole novell client with IPX on a
> client?

I think I've tracked down the problem to a ATI graphic card utility called
ati2evxx.exe. As it seems, it doesn't do anything but eats a lot of system
resources. After throwing it out, at least the two machines I've tried started
networking with cygwin at normal speed. Anyway, thanks a lot for your help.

Cheers

Edi


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: placing launched MAGIC 7.1 & app dissappears
In-Reply-To: <3CA4EE58.7492AE27@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Message-ID: 

Ed,

I have no idea if you need more memory.  I kinda doubt it.  Why don't you
remove the "-fullscreen -depth 8" parameters, run Windows in 8 bit per pixel
mode, and add the parameter "-screen 0 320 240".  That will give you a much
smaller window and it might allow Magic to work (just do it as a test).

Other than that you can look on the Magic website about the OpenGL version
(or command line parameter... I don't remember if it was the same executable
or not).

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ed Conrad
> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 5:45 PM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: Ed Conrad; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: placing launched MAGIC 7.1 & app dissappears
>
>
> I have been using the given bat file to launch it.  The line you
> refer to as
> stated in the MAGICXF.bat that launches MAGIC:
>
> start XWin -fullscreen -depth 8 -emulate3buttons
>
> This launches its own window and you can tell it's 8-bit.
> I was wondering if I need more RAM on my comp to run it?
>
> I did have it up once and it was slow...
> I can't get it back up though.
>
> Ed
>
>
> Harold Hunt wrote:
>
> > Ed,
> >
> > Because Magic 7.1 only works when you have Windows in 8 bit
> color mode, or
> > if you run in fullscreen mode at 8 bits per pixel, or if you
> tell Magic that
> > you want it to use OpenGL for graphics.
> >
> > You can start Cygwin/XFree86 in fullscreen mode at 8 bits per
> pixel like so:
> >
> > XWin -fullscreen -depth 8
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ed Conrad
> > > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 3:53 PM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: placing launched MAGIC 7.1 & app dissappears
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I got magic 7.1 installed and trying to run it about
> > > 10 times only got the magic window to open once.
> > > After that, I can't open it at all.  The full-screen
> > > window opens, the app window is on the mouse cusor,
> > > but when I place it, it vanishes.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know why windows vanish like that?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Yahoo! Greetings - send holiday greetings for Easter, Passover
> > > http://greetings.yahoo.com/
>


From Max.Buvry@enseeiht.fr  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Max.Buvry@enseeiht.fr (Max Buvry)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: start problem
Message-ID: <3C637E35.83CED160@enseeiht.fr>

hi,

I just install the latest versions of cygwin and XFree86.
I use a medion notebook with XP Window.

I meet a problem to start the server X.

-> If I try "sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh" the error message is :

xsetroot : unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0'
twm : unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0.0"

-> If I try "startx" the error message is now :

xinit : Connection refused (errno 111) : unavble to connect to X server
xinit : no such process (errno 3) : Server error


I find some thing about the first message in the FAQ but this does not
help me.

Thanks you for your help and your proposals

mb


From rodneykelly@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rodneykelly@hotmail.com (Rodney Kelly)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: can't load javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalLookAndFeel
Message-ID: 

I'm using XFree86 to connect to a Sun Solaris box using XDMCP.  All apps run 
fine except for one java app.  This app runs fine with eXceed.  Does anyone 
have any suggestions/workarounds?


Exception in thread "main" java.lang.Error: can't load 
javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalLookAndFeel
        at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace(Native Method)
        at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace(Compiled Code)
        at java.lang.Throwable.(Compiled Code)
        at java.lang.Error.(Error.java:50)
        at javax.swing.UIManager.initializeDefaultLAF(UIManager.java:856)
        at javax.swing.UIManager.initialize(UIManager.java:926)
        at javax.swing.UIManager.maybeInitialize(UIManager.java:948)
        at javax.swing.UIManager.getDefaults(UIManager.java:447)
        at javax.swing.UIManager.put(UIManager.java:549)
        at com.vitria.est.console.ConsoleLib.main(Compiled Code)


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From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: KDE under cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <21.1a24d57e.29b8f024@aol.com>
References: <21.1a24d57e.29b8f024@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20020307213452.GA16711@redhat.com>

On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 11:32:36AM -0500, Regnirps@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 3/7/02 8:04:30 AM, cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com writes:
>>On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 09:43:05AM +0100, Ralf Habacker wrote:
>>>>Is anyone using KDE, KOffice, (especially) KDevelop with Cygwin?  I
>>>>assume it would need the qt library.  Is this all workable?
>>>
>>>Look at http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net.  There are alpha releases of
>>>some kde packages
>>
>>And this is the wrong mailing list for discussing KDE.
>
>There is always at least one isn't there?  I suppose this is not the
>place to ask questions related to cygwin?

We tried to make this very clear here: http://cygwin.com/lists.html

>Do you have an answer?

No, I do not have an answer.  However, I guess you didn't notice that
I'd redirected your mail to the appropriate mailing list where this
response showed up.  The assumption is that if there is a discussion
about KDE it should be in the cygwin-xfree mailing list.

However, it sure seems to me like you already have gotten an answer to
your question above.

>I have wasted a lot of time and don't need any smoke from anal
>retentive list monitors.  What's next, detention?  If you don't like it
>and this is the quality of help here, I'll gladly unsubscribe.

Well, hmm, I don't like people sending off-topic messages to the cygwin
mailing list, so you can do whatever you like.  Please don't worry that
I will be upset if you unsubscribe.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Remote tasks sleeping after 'su'
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Robert,

I found a document that may be of help:
Remote X Apps mini-HOWTO (http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth.html)

In particular, the section called "X Applications from Another User-id" may
be useful:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth-7.html

That should explain some related difficulties, even though you are using
ssh...

Harold


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Haines [mailto:hainesr7@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:09 AM
> To: Tzafrir Cohen; Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygx
> Subject: Re: Remote tasks sleeping after 'su'
>
>
> > > > I've been using Cygwin for a while now but am new to cygwin-xfree. I
> hope
> > > > this question hasn't been answered before but I did check
> the archives
> and
> > > > didn't find anything pertinent.
> > > >
> > > > I use this system to log into other systems (via ssh -X)
> and have the
> > > > windows displayed on my cygwin-xfree desktop. If I run something as
> myself
> > > > then everything is fine. If I log in, then 'su' to root, then run
> > > > something
> > > > the window never appears. If I look at 'top' then the task I just
> > > > started is
> > > > flagged as sleeping. This problem does not occur when using the
> > > > putty/exceed
> >
>
> Thanks for your responses guys. I have now had chance to do a little
> research using a Linux box in place of my Cygwin/XFree box and the end
> result is the same. Once I have su'd I can't expect X forwarding to work.
> Now I think about it, this is hardly strange. The only difference in the
> whole process was that I did actually get an error when using two Linux
> boxes and the task was terminated, unlike on the Cygwin/XFree
> setup where no
> error was received and the task simply went to sleep.
>
> Now I know that this is normal behaviour, I'll not try it again :-)
>
> Thanks again,
> Robert Haines.
>


From rasjidw@bigpond.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rasjidw@bigpond.com (Rasjid Wilcox)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfree in cygwin Setup program
In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683326@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683326@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: <200202051241.XAA13106@cts01.webone.com.au>

On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 11:15 pm, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote:
> at www.cygwin.com
>
> Suhaib
>

Okay, okay, I should have been more specific in my question.

So, to be more specific:
When told to look at the snapshots of setup.exe that Robert has been making 
available, does this mean I grab the code from the CVS tree and make it 
myself from the source, or does it mean something else??

Rasjid.


From nigel@bprj.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nigel@bprj.co.uk (Nigel Hathaway)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Wierd keymappings and missing Meta
Message-ID: <200201281534.g0SFYC017345@jeeves.brpj.co.uk>

The **REAL** answer to your question is found in the mail archives.

See "Re: xmodmap, xkb and XF86Config" by Laurent Pinchart dated Wed, 24
Oct 2001 17:25:56 +0200.

To answer the "what happens if..." below: the answer is it crashes with a 
horrible error message, which translated means "Please develop me more. I 
don't feel comfortable under Windows."

Nigel Hathaway

***********************************
Barnabas Projects Limited
Tel: +44 117 937 4197
Internet: www.bprj.co.uk

On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Kirsty Hollingworth wrote:

> I have installed Cygwin/Xfree86 according to the instructions.As I live
> in the UK I got hold of a Xmodmap for the keymappings.I tried running
>
> %xmodmap Xmodmap.uk
>
> where Xmodmap.uk is the mapping file from a bash prompt.I now get rather
> wierd behaviour.In bash windows (and in xterms running telnet to a linux
> box) I find that shift-3 sends #CTRL-M so that # is entered to the prompt.
> Also my backspace key prints a ~.CTRL-H still backspaces though.
> However in xedit everthing works fine. Backspace backspaces and shift-3
> prints a pound sign.Any suggestions?

What happens if you use:

  setxkbmap uk

instead?

Some other pointers:

  http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Intkeyb/

  And the oh-so-confusing:
  http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/BackspaceDelete/

cygwin is not linux, but both use XFree and both use posix and gnu, so
there are enough points of similarity.

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From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: x -query problems after update to xfree86 4.2
In-Reply-To: <000001c1ca8d$68bb0110$3cc8047e@softdev.liebert.com>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, R. Soctt Baer wrote:

> I hate to be a bother.. but has anyone else had this problem...  if not were
> do I submit a bug report ??

Can you please try xdm instead of kdm? Just edit in /etc/rc.config the line 
DISPLAYMANGER=kdm to DISPLAYMANAGER=xdm


bye
	ago
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From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: startxwin.bat gone?
Message-ID: 

A file, startxwin.bat used to be included with earlier versions of
cygwin-xfree. I just installed the (required) packages of cygwin-xfree
4.2, and couldn't find the file. Has it been removed? startxwin is a
convelient way of starting up X because it also starts up twm and xterm
on the same time.


Thanks,
Lars.

--
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Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592



From NikolayMetchev@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: NikolayMetchev@hotmail.com (Nikolay Metchev)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: fixed font
References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C266AA6E@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: 

mount your drives in binary mode and reinstall XFree86.....I had the same
problem.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 12:38 PM
Subject: RE: fixed font




> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of jun
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 7:34 AM
> To: 'cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com'
> Subject: Re: fixed font
>
>
>
> > >
> > > I've installed Cygwin 1.3.6 and xfree 4.1.0 on an XP
> machine, but X
> > > fails to start saying that the fixed font is missing.
> What does that
> > > mean? What can I do?
> >
> > It means you probably did not install fonts.  Did you follow exact
> > instructions in the User's Guide?
> >
> > Suhaib
> >
> not necessarily. if the fonts are installed, they should be
> reinstalled and
> unpacked with WinZip or Powerarc.
> maybe this was ment by Suhaib...
>


At least do not unpack with Winzip.  Use gzip and tar.... I absoultely
did not mean to reinstall using WinZip and/or Powerarc...  No idea how
did you come to specifics....




From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:cgf@redhat.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:52 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 06:06:16PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
> >> > Fine.  But how do you implement them on 9x/Me?
> >>Perhaps the same way I implemented FIFO's, but easier as 
> the semantics 
> >>seem less complex to me.
> >>
> >>Anyway, sure we don't need to have bot NT and 9x all at the same 
> >>time...
> >
> >Sounds logical to me.  There is no reason to limit the 
> performance on 
> >Windows NT/2000/XP just because there would need to be a seperate 
> >routine for Windows 95/98/Me.
> 
> I'm glad it sounds logical.  Cygwin already has lots of code 
> that is NT specific, e.g., CYGWIN=ntsec.

I agree. I got the impression from Corinna's email that what Ralf was
suggesting needed a 9x equivalent to be seriously considered. I'm not
100% sure why I got that impression though....

Rob


From tzafrir@technion.ac.il  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: tzafrir@technion.ac.il (Tzafrir Cohen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86 4.2.0
In-Reply-To: <036901c1a231$010cae30$0200a8c0@lifelesswks>
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Robert Collins wrote:

>
> All that should be needed (as a starting point) for a setup.exe based
> distribution (if your current tarballs are rooted at / ) is to
> * Create a src package(s) as appropriate. You can have one for all the
> binaries (*)
> * Rename any hardcoded config files that users might change to
> foo.default or similar.
> * If you've got scripts to do post-extraction tasks, such as create
> desktop icons or the like, place them in /etc/postinstall/packagename.sh

But examine them first, and decide if they can't be run earlier (while
creating the package). A complecated post-install script calls for
troubles.

> * Create setup.hint files - one per .tar.gz|bz2/
> * Check with http://www.cygwin.com/setup.html to see if anything has
> been missed.
>
> (*) via a little trickery.

The X server needs to be in a seperate binary package (as it is likely to
change). The libraries should be in a seperate package, as I might be
using them to run programs with a different X server.

Further separations can probably made (separate fonts packages, separate
documentation packages, etc. Think of all the choices that the install
script gives youon what to install).

I hope someone cares enough to take this task. Installing this bunch of
tarballs with the strange install script (that required me write
permission to the directory of the tarballs, for instance) proved to be a
real pain. And I'm a bit afraid of upgrading it...

-- 
Tzafrir Cohen
mailto:tzafrir@technion.ac.il
http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir



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From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 4.2.0
In-Reply-To: 
References: <036901c1a231$010cae30$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> 
Message-ID: <20020121070130.GA12251@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 08:51:52AM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
>On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Robert Collins wrote:
>
>>
>> All that should be needed (as a starting point) for a setup.exe based
>> distribution (if your current tarballs are rooted at / ) is to
>> * Create a src package(s) as appropriate. You can have one for all the
>> binaries (*)
>> * Rename any hardcoded config files that users might change to
>> foo.default or similar.
>> * If you've got scripts to do post-extraction tasks, such as create
>> desktop icons or the like, place them in /etc/postinstall/packagename.sh
>
>But examine them first, and decide if they can't be run earlier (while
>creating the package). A complecated post-install script calls for
>troubles.
>
>> * Create setup.hint files - one per .tar.gz|bz2/
>> * Check with http://www.cygwin.com/setup.html to see if anything has
>> been missed.
>>
>> (*) via a little trickery.
>
>The X server needs to be in a seperate binary package (as it is likely to
>change). The libraries should be in a seperate package, as I might be
>using them to run programs with a different X server.
>
>Further separations can probably made (separate fonts packages, separate
>documentation packages, etc. Think of all the choices that the install
>script gives youon what to install).
>
>I hope someone cares enough to take this task. Installing this bunch of
>tarballs with the strange install script (that required me write
>permission to the directory of the tarballs, for instance) proved to be a
>real pain. And I'm a bit afraid of upgrading it...

Why not use the current RPM layout?  This is what I have on my system right now:

XFree86-Xvfb-4.0.3-1
XFree86-doc-4.0.2-0.2
XFree86-Xnest-4.0.3-1
XFree86-4.0.3-1
XFree86-libs-4.0.3-1
XFree86-xf86cfg-4.0.3-1
XFree86-devel-4.0.3-1
XFree86-tools-4.0.2-0.2
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From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Windows based app.server
In-Reply-To: <200202061144.SM00180@lib15.denefield.org.uk>
References: <200202061144.SM00180@lib15.denefield.org.uk>
Message-ID: 

/ "Chris Howells"  wrote:
| With an X server running on a Win32 machine, it's possible to run X
| applications (e.g. on Linux) and have them sent over the network to appear
| on the Win32 machine.
| 
| However, has anybody tried the other way around -- having Windows
| applications appearing on a Linux desktop, the Windows applications all
| being run through a specific Windows (NT) based application server?

Yep there is a proggy called vnc, that allows you to export your
Windows-desktop to a machine which os has cvs exported to it.

        http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/index.html
or 
        http://www.tridiavnc.com/

        /Andy

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From vlaero@yahoo.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: vlaero@yahoo.com.au (=?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Jansen?=)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xserver windows under windows terminal server
Message-ID: <20020324233346.84352.qmail@web12908.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello.

I'm currently unable to test this as I'm not at work
but I'm wondering whether it's possible to use
cygwin-xfree under a terminal server session (ie: and
RDP or and ICA connection).  I'm hoping that when you
fire up xwin it shows the xserver window in the
terminal server session that fired it up.
There is a windows environment variable for the
'winstation name' which is also the windows screen
number.
What I'm hoping to do is create a batch file that will
fire up the Xserver using a screen number the same as
the users winstation ID.  This way everyone connected
could run xwin and have it displaying in their own
screen.
Anyone know or tired this?
Thanks.


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From ptsekov@syntrex.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ptsekov@syntrex.com (Pavel Tsekov)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Kylix Installation???
References: <003d01c19ac4$564a6c30$7747a492@eq.ufrj.br>
Message-ID: <3C3F2142.6010602@syntrex.com>

Whoa - you're trying to run a linux application on windows!
Maybe you need to visit http://cygwin.com and see what's the
aim of the project...

Marcus Vinicius Eiffle Duarte wrote:

> Hi, folks!
> 
> has anybody installed Kylix under Cygwin/XFree?
> I tried running the installer, but it doesn't seem to like Cygwin, and it
> fails to run complaining of the versions of gcc and a few libraries.
> If anybody knows the way to get it running, I would like to know.



From egon.phillips@sympatico.ca  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: egon.phillips@sympatico.ca (egon.phillips@sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: [Possible Bug] xfree86 4.2.0 ldconfig
Message-ID: <20020306173507.ICCR10853.tomts19-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209.226.175.20]>

Hi,

I'm trying to install cygwin/XFree86. I have run into trouble during the last 
two steps of the installation procedure, contained in the following document.

Installation Details for XFree86[tm] 4.2.0
The XFree86 Project, Inc
16 January 2002, Abstract
(AKA INSTALL)

Development Environment
Win 2K, cygwin 1.3.10, Visual C++ EE, Progres 7.2

Here is the output from the final two steps:
.........

admin@BigRed@GOONMUNSTER /home/TEMP
$ /sbin/ldconfig /usr/X11R6/lib # For Linux
bash: /sbin/ldconfig: No such file or directory

admin@BigRed /home/TEMP
$ /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/X11R6/lib # For FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD
bash: /sbin/ldconfig: No such file or directory


Can someone tell us how to solve this problem without compiling any code?

Is the ldconfig utility somewhere in the cygwin distribution? If not where can 
we get a binary?


Thanx Egon.


From darryl@shecora.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: darryl@shecora.com (Darryl Wagoner)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Greetings,

Yep change the port to 177 start to show packets moving back and forth.
At some point a login screen came up.  I repeated and got the login
screen fairly quickly.  Try again and it has been waiting for about 
10 mins and still no screen.  I can see packets, but that is about it?

Any ideas?

--
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:25 PM
> To: Darryl Wagoner; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
> 
> 
> Darryl,
> 
> According to the Linux XMDCP HOWTO
> (http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/gdm.html), the port number is
> 177, not 117.
> 
> I don't know what else to tell you.  Try using kdm instead.
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Darryl Wagoner
> > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:03 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
> >
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I think I have followed all the directions, but all I get is a
> > blank X screen with a pointer cursors.
> >
> > The request doesn't seem to be getting to the Linux system.
> >
> > I did a "tcpdump port 117" and I don't see any packets at all going
> > to Linux.
> >
> > In the docs it says to change gdm.conf
> >
> > [xdmcp]
> > Enable=1
> >
> > but all the other options have the Boolean true so I followed suit.
> >
> > [xdmcp]
> > Enable=true
> >
> > I did do a netstat to make sure xdm was listening on the correct port.
> >
> > Is it possible that Xwin.exe is sending to a different port?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > --
> > Darryl Wagoner - WA1GON
> >
> > Your phone line can be the life line for the unemployed. Sign up
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> >
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> >
> > "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing."  - Edmund Burke [1729-1797]
> >
> >


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Development - In other news...
Message-ID: 



Alan Hourihane and I have been working a little bit on the NativeGDI
"-engine 16" X Server in Cygwin/XFree86.  The current CVS builds are
completely runable: user input works, drawing graphics works mostly (xterm,
twm, with just a few screwups), and most notable the server no longer
crashes on startup.  However, lots of things don't work: we don't handle
redrawing covered-then-exposed regions of our Window, so you have to keep
the Cygwin/XFree86 window in focus unless you want the window to clear,
opaque stipple-fills don't work yet so the title bar on windows under twm
don't have the hatched pattern, and the performance is not something to brag
about.

That said, we are progressing well on our plan, which goes a little
something like the following:
1) Implement winFillSpans, winGetSpans, and winSetSpans.  These just draw
lines and all graphics functions can be reduced to spans operations.

2) Implement other graphics functions directly.  We haven't even begun to
start this yet.  We have to make a few corrections to the spans routines
first.


Performance sucks right now because *every* graphics operation must be
reduced to a series of line operations.  However, we have to have a perfect
set of spans routines because there are some X graphics functions that
cannot be simply translated into GDI graphics functions.  Thus, some X
graphics functions will always rely on spans functions.

There is one problem that I had not anticipated, but that Alan Hourihane
pointed out.  It turns out that GDI DIB's (Device Independent Bitmap) use a
different byte-order for 1 bit and 4 bit DIBs than they do for 8 bit, 16
bit, 24 bit, and 32 bit DIBs.  Alan flipped the BITMAP_BIT_ORDER flag to
MSBFirst from the default LSBFirst in
xc/programs/Xserver/include/servermd.h.  The problem here is that most
programs just look at IMAGE_BYTE_ORDER or BITMAP_BYTE_ORDER and assume that
they are equal.  For now we have them set to different values, which means
that some programs will assume bitmaps and pixmaps are LSBFirst while others
will assume that they are MSBFirst.  The ultimate solution here is to do
byte-map order translation for 1 bit and 4 bit DIBs when we do certain
operations with them.

However, we have yet to identify exactly when to do the translations.  Alan
and I have been pretty busy with other things lately, so this task has gone
unattended for several weeks.

Well, I guess that's all for now.  I just figured that some people might be
interested in what is going on... and *sigh* possibly helping out.

If you have some spare time, throw an eye at:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/xoncygwin

We've been using that site as a temporary CVS tree for the NativeGDI
development.  We'll be merging things back into XFree86 when we have
something more complete.  We have to fix the BITMAP_BIT_ORDER flag before we
can merge into XFree86, as none of the other engines draw correctly when
BITMAP_BIT_ORDER is set to MSBFirst.

Regards,

Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: 4.2.0
In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268329A@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: 

Suhaib,

Alan built the binaries a couple days ago and uploaded them to the XFree86
ftp site.  I downloaded them, installed them to verify that they work, and
uploaded them to the mirror network under cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0/...
and I made a symbolic link called cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.1.0/ that points
to the old 4.1.0 binaries.

Alan's binaries installed fine, but your set gave errors about 'gnu-tar' not
being found.

Thus, I'm going to go with Alan's binaries.

I'll be updating links and the User's Guide later tonight, after class is
out for the day.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Suhaib Siddiqi
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 1:05 PM
> To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
> Subject: 4.2.0
>
>
>
>
> The Cygwin/Xfree86 4.2.0 are available
>
> ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/xfree/xc-4-binaries/
>
>
> Suhaib


From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Building Enlightenment
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683267@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>


Sure, I will put add to URL

Suhaib

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralf Habacker [mailto:Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de] 
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 5:19 PM
> To: Cygwin-Xfree
> Subject: Building Enlightenment
> 
> 
> Hi Suhaib,
> 
> it is interesting for the xfree people to have a link to a 
> patched libxext relating to this thread 
> http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg01466.html?
> 
> If so I would send a mail to the cygwin-xfree list with a 
> link to the kde-cygwin project on sourcforge, where one can 
> find such a lib.
> 
> Ralf
> 
> 


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:cgf@redhat.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:24 PM

> I don't see any reason to delay adopting XFree86 into the 
> main setup. So, lets not worry about customizing anything or 
> offering alternate setup.ini's.

I don't see any reason either, but then I've been pushing for this for
>6 months.

The reason I'm suggesting have a test setup.ini is so that their
install-script can be tested a little bit...

Rob


From tzafrir@technion.ac.il  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: tzafrir@technion.ac.il (Tzafrir Cohen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Remote tasks sleeping after 'su'
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:

>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Rob Haines
> > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 12:32 PM
> > Subject: Remote tasks sleeping after 'su'
> >
> > I've been using Cygwin for a while now but am new to cygwin-xfree. I hope
> > this question hasn't been answered before but I did check the archives and
> > didn't find anything pertinent.
> >
> > I use this system to log into other systems (via ssh -X) and have the
> > windows displayed on my cygwin-xfree desktop. If I run something as myself
> > then everything is fine. If I log in, then 'su' to root, then run
> > something
> > the window never appears. If I look at 'top' then the task I just
> > started is
> > flagged as sleeping. This problem does not occur when using the
> > putty/exceed

Do you use *any* access limitations with exceed?

IIRC its default is to leave the display totally open. This allows anybody
in the neighbourhood to sniff characters from your display (xwd -display
 is one silly way), characters you type (like the root
password of the su command) and even inject characters.

> > combination to log in to my remote machine. I haven't tried
> > logging straight
> > in as root, because our security policy does not allow it. Is this a
> > cygwin-xfree issue, or something else?
> >
> Rob,

does 'ssh -v -X' give a better clue?

What version of ssh do you have on the remote machine?

Check your definitions of DISPLAY. If you connect to x-server-host to
other-system, then DISPLAY should be set to something like
other-machine:10.0

Try launching a simple X client, like xcalc. I believe that those simple
programs tend to be netter at reporting X protocol errors than many other
programs.

>
> What you describe sounds logical.Remember, it is your username, not root,
> that has setup the X tunnelling through ssh.Therefore, it makes sense that
> an X client launched by root would not display.
>
> I'm not a great X user, so I could be wrong... but I do think that the above
> makes sense.

Some linux distros (e.g.: my mandrake 8.1) come with a pam module
(pam_xauth) that forwards the definition of DISPLAY and the XAUTHORITY  to
the user you are becoming (or only to root?)

Also, maybe the following voodoo would work:

su -c "env DISPLAY=${DISPLAY} XAUTHORITY=${HOME}/.Xauthority $SHELL" -

(Runs a shell as root, with DISPLAY set to the original value of DISPLAY,
and XAUTHORITY set to the user's XAUTHORITY file . As root, you can read
it)

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From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfree in cygwin Setup program
In-Reply-To: <200202041048.VAA16957@cts01.webone.com.au>
References: <200202041048.VAA16957@cts01.webone.com.au>
Message-ID: <20020204200348.GA1308@redhat.com>

On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 09:48:31PM +1100, Rasjid Wilcox wrote:
>Just wondering what the status of getting XFree into the Cygwin Setup 
>program?  I followed the discussion on 21st Jan, and a few weeks ago I saw 
>some binaries up on the ftp site that looked like they were in progress, but 
>they are no longer there.
>
>I'd be willing to help.

They're not there yet.  You can help by downloading and trying the setup.exe
snapshots that Robert Collins has been making available.  I'm sure he
would love feedback.

Once the new version of setup.exe is available, we'll be able to incorporate
XFree86 into the distribution.

cgf


From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window.
In-Reply-To: <20020111153230.97318.qmail@web13506.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020111153351.12039.qmail@web20809.mail.yahoo.com>

So did you try running an XDMCP desktop with the command line interface that I
mentioned in the last mail?

Brian


--- Raber Chris  wrote:
> Brian,
> 
> > 
> > Well, running a browser should be as easy as running
> it with 
> > a display set :
> > 
> > netscape -display winmachine:0
> 
> Tried this, does not work. No window ever is
> displayed.
> 
> > 
> > Or setting the display variable, and running
> netscape :
> > 
> > setenv DISPLAY winmachine:0
> > netscape
> 
> Same problem.
> 
> > 
> > To run XDMCP, if you have it enabled in the linux
> box (I think most
> > distributions have it on by default), simply use the
> 
> > following command line
> > variables when starting the X server (This is in the
> user's manual):
> > 
> > -query linuxIP -from windowsIP
> > 
> > Brian
> 
> 
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From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Windows based app.server
In-Reply-To: <200202061144.SM00180@lib15.denefield.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20020206141227.71125.qmail@web20807.mail.yahoo.com>

I have thought of the same idea... There is a little project in the works,
called xwinx (www.xwinx.org), which is like VNC, but takes the entire desktop
through the X protocol. (It doesnt require a VNC client, only an X server)  

I have looked at the code, and for fun, poked at it a bit.  I have gotten it to
display a single window, instead of a full desktop.  Possibly, this type of
idea could be extended, and wrapped in a nice little spawining script, where if
you wanted to run something... say MS Word, you could ship MS Word across your
network to your X server.

Of course, this means some coding to get it to work, and may not be extremely
feasable, but it could be more of what you are looking for.

Brian


--- Chris Howells  wrote:
> With an X server running on a Win32 machine, it's possible to run X
> applications (e.g. on Linux) and have them sent over the network to appear
> on the Win32 machine.
> 
> However, has anybody tried the other way around -- having Windows
> applications appearing on a Linux desktop, the Windows applications all
> being run through a specific Windows (NT) based application server?
> 
> For example, imagine a network running almost entirely Linux, but needing
> to run a few legacy Windows applications. What I would like is for the user
> (sitting in front of Linux box with X) to be able to click on an icon for a
> Windows application, causing the application to start running on a Windows
> (NT) based application server. The program would entirely run on the
> Windows server, but the screen output would be sent over the network so it
> could be controlled by the user sitting on their Linux/X machine.
> 
> I'm just wondering if this is possible?
> 
> Many thanks,
> Chris Howells
> 


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From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Windows based app.server
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Jared P Bostic wrote:

> OT a bit but, is there a way someone could get a look at those mods you
> made? :-) :-)  BTW, has anyone tried displaying this remote svc (xwinx)
> on cygwin/xfree86 (ie. windows to windows) with/without success?

Yes, I did. 

I displayed the windows desktop on an Xserver running on the same host.
And it worked.  But I had to reduce the colordepth to 16bit. 

bye
    ago
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From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: problem with using xsetroot without window manager 
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <00ab01c19aaf$d120b320$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>

>
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Ralf Habacker wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm using the latest Xserver Test Release and have recognized a problem,
> > when starting some apps without any window manager.
> >
> > For starting kde/kde2 I'm using setxroot to choose another background at
> > the start of the launching process, which needs some time. At this time no
> > window manager is running. With this configuration the color isn't set,
> > but the xserver seems to be restarted. (The window seems to be closed for
> > a little while and comes back) After startung twm, kwm or kwin color
> > setting works. The same effect occurs, when I'm starting for example
> > xdpyinfo without any window manager. When the end of the listing is
> > reached the server "restarts".
>
> This is the normal behavior. After the last client disconnected, the
> Xserver resets. Normally xinit is the first process that connects to the
> Xserver, exec the .xinitrc scripts and exits after the last program from
> xinitrc (normally the windowmanger) has ended.
>
> You can switch the Xserver to not resetting by adding the switch -noreset
> to the XWin commandline. This is not recommend if you use the Xserver for
> terminals, since all settings that are made in a session are not reset until
> the next session starts.
>
Thats sounds good.
...
>
> It is a design feature of XFree86 (and most other X-Servers) to perform a
> reset when the number of client connections goes to zero.  In your case (and
> as discussed before) the xsetroot program is the only client connected, so
> after it set's the root background, it disconnects and XWin resets.  AFIK
> this behavior is not optional.  You need to re-order the sequence of client
> starts, so that there is a "persistent" client (like an xterm or the window
> manager, or...)
> bye

The reason is, I don't like the default background while kde2 starts and this need a while.

Thanks for this hints.
Ralf


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From rmedina@ivic.ve  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rmedina@ivic.ve (Rodrigo Medina)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Some Questions
Message-ID: <200202182028.QAA04568@taquion.ivic.ve>

Hi!

I am a new user of Cygwin/XFree86. It is great to have all the power of unix
at home without fighting with the rest of the family because I have substituted
Windows by Linux!. Thanks to all the people involved in this project. I have
some questions and reports of extrange behavior.

First, my system is 686 ; Windows 95a. cygwin.dll 1.3.9-1 (last update
2002/02/07) , XFree86 is of Jan 2002. I am using twm.

1)Good news:
 Some time ago I reported that if in .xinitrc I put 2 or 3 of xterms
followed by twm there was a confusion and many times the bash shells
were assigned to the wrong xterms and/or did no appear at all (in ps
they appear assigned to no terminal). This extrange behavior apparently
disappeared after I updated cygwin.dll (my previous one was of Dec 2001).

2)Bad news: After updating cygwin.dll, .xinitrc stop working because
xmodmap did not recognize "!" as a comment character in the .Xmodmap
file. This behavior of xmodmap appeared only inside the .xinitrc shell
script (or any other shell script). I reported this to the cygwin mailing
list. Someone told me to try
bash instead of sh in the script and indeed it worked fine. What I then
did was to replace /bin/sh.exe with a link sh.exe->bash.exe. Is this extrage
behavior of sh "normal"? Can the change I performed produce any kind
of problems?

3)While compiling ghostview I got a message from gcc complaining that
the type of sys_errlist was different in sys/errno.h and in /X11/Xos.h
(also inside some internal files of ghostview). 

In errno.h:
#ifdef __CYGWIN__
extern __IMPORT const char * const sys_errlist[};

In Xos.h:
extern char *sys_errlist[];

I am not an expert of gcc, but it seems to me that the second "const"
in errno.h is wrong. I did the following changes:

In errno.h:
extern __IMPORT const char * sys_errlist[];
In Xos.h:
extern const char *sys_errlist[];

With these changes ghostview compiled. Did I do the right thing?

4) Most of the times the Cygwin+XFree SERVER fails to process some
particular actions related to the mouse buttons. I have seen this in
in xterm, where the CTRL-MouseButton menus usually do not appear (the
bell rings). Also in ghostview there are some menu buttons (File, etc..)
that usually do not function. I say usually because occasionally they do
function correctly. I have no idea of when or why this happens. I do
know that the problem is due to the server and not to the client
programs because: i) the same programs behave correctly using the
commertial X-WinPro server running locally, ii) a xterm, that I know is
fine, running remotely from a SunOS machine presents the same problem.
  Have other people observed similar behavior, or it is happening only to me?
  Has anybody any idea of what is going on?

Thanks in advance

Rodrigo Medina
Centro de Fisica IVIC
rmedina@ivic.ve
Subject: Some questions


From bmrevet@igr.fr  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: bmrevet@igr.fr (Bernard Revet)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: grace-5.1.6 cygwin-Xfree   lesstif
Message-ID: <3C7AAED6.7030306@igr.fr>

Dear  cygwinnies

I thougt that someone might be interested with the announcement that 
grace-5.1.6 does compile under the last version of cygwin-Xfree and 
lesstiif-cygwin-0.93.18.tar.gz .Consider the mispelling of lesstif . 
Location of LessTif is not standard under Cygwin-Xfree in comparison 
with Linux
You need after installation of lesstif under cygwin-Xfree to configure 
grace with
./configure --with-motif-includes=/usr/X11R6/include 
--with-motif-libraries=/usr/X11R6/lib
after make you obtain a xmgrace.exe executable
It looks pretty and pleasant to have this program running nicely in this 
environment . Thanks to the Grace developers.
Best regards
Yours
Bernard
PS Grace -5.1.7 should come out soon 








From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP AIX 5L : no keyboard
Message-ID: 


Hi
Known bug, with AIX you have to disable keyboard extension (use -kb
parameter).

Pavel



                                                                                                                                               
                    "Erwann SIMON"                                                                                                             
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                    cygwin-xfree-owner@        Subject:     XDMCP AIX 5L : no keyboard                                                         
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Hi,

I've installed cygwin/xfree (latest version) on my win2k computer to
work with the graphical environment of an AIX 5L.
I modified the startxwin.bat in order to connect to connect to the XDM
of the AIX ("start /B XWin -screen 0 1024 768 -query 192.168.10.25 -from
192.168.10.12") and it works fine... exept I can't write anything :-(
The mouse works, some key maps as "tab" or "return" works but I can't
write my username.
Note that I also tried in modifying the same way the startxwin.sh script
or jsut with the following command line ./XWin -query 192.168.10.25
-from 192.168.10.12


Thanks for your help

Erwann





From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: problem with keyobord on AIX 
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:

> > It seems that XWin produce a wrong "state".

IBM has set them wrong. XWin produces the correct ones. Please compare them
with those of Linux. 

> > State values reported by xev
> >
> > Key    	IBM   XWin
> > ------ 	----- -----
> > Shift		0x1	0x1
> > Lock		0x2	0x2
> > Ctrl		0x4	0x4
> > AltL		0x8	0x8
> > AltGr		0x10	0x2000
> > numLock	0x80	0x10
> >
> > numlock on XWin produces the same state of ALTGR on IBM.
> > This explain why no characters appears when numLock is on.
> >
> > I use this workaround:
> > 1) numLock always off
> > 2) after login or in .dtprofile use :
> > "xmodmap -e 'keysym Mode_switch = Alt_R'"

Switch of numlock with modmap

xmodmap -e 'keycode 77 = '

and map Alt_Gr to mode_switch

xmodmap -e 'keycode 113 = Mode_switch Multi_key'


bye
    ago
-- 
 Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017
 4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4


From egon.phillips@sympatico.ca  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: egon.phillips@sympatico.ca (egon.phillips@sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
Message-ID: <20020306174227.RXWE780.tomts24-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209.226.175.20]>

Hi,

I'm trying to install cygwin/XFree86. I have run into trouble during the last 
two steps of the installation procedure, contained in the following document.

Installation Details for XFree86[tm] 4.2.0
The XFree86 Project, Inc
16 January 2002, Abstract
(AKA INSTALL)

Development Environment
Win 2K, cygwin 1.3.10, Visual C++ EE, Progres 7.2

Here is the output from the final two steps:
.........

admin@BigRed@GOONMUNSTER /home/TEMP
$ /sbin/ldconfig /usr/X11R6/lib # For Linux
bash: /sbin/ldconfig: No such file or directory

admin@BigRed /home/TEMP
$ /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/X11R6/lib # For FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD
bash: /sbin/ldconfig: No such file or directory


Can someone tell us how to solve this problem without compiling any code?

Is the ldconfig utility somewhere in the cygwin distribution? If not where can 
we get a binary?


Thanx Egon.


From ssiddiqi@ssiddiqi.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@ssiddiqi.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: hardware accelerated OpenGL & Cygwin-XFree ?
In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2AF4548@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C266A9EC@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>



You are welcome to contribute an OpenGL driver which would be hardware
accelerated on Windows using wGL.

Suhaib

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
> owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Rolf Schneider
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 5:56 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: hardware accelerated OpenGL & Cygwin-XFree ?
> 
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I'd like to migrate a fairly complex application from IRIX/Linux to
> bloody "windows" using Cygwin-XFree. My app. makes extensive use of
> OpenGL in several different windows. I assume OpenGL in Cygwin-XFree
> means "MESA". Unfortunately, a software implementation of OpenGL isn't
> fast enough to drive my application.
> 
> Hmm, would it be possible to configure XFree, so that Window's OpenGl
> libs/drivers are being used instead of MESA? Since Window's OpenGL
> drivers will almost certianly be hardware accelerated, my application
> would become very fast...
> 
> Thanks for your help!
> 
>     Rolf


From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X-WINDOWS and WINDOWS XP
In-Reply-To: <99.23563e84.29c39244@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20020315184207.14899.qmail@web20805.mail.yahoo.com>

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ has documentation to do it.

As long as you can reach your home machine's IP address from the Unix machine,
this will work.... 

1. Start the X server up in Windows
2. telnet into the Unix machine
3. Run xterm -display :0

This assumes the connection can be made.  If your ISP has a firewall set up to
block it, you may be out of luck.  It also assumes xterm is the program you
want to run, and you started your X server up with the default :0 display.

Good luck,
Brian


--- JayWWood@aol.com wrote:
> Hello ,
> 
>          Please send me any information you may have on installing and 
> running  X-Windows (or something very like it ) on a PC with Win XP .
> 
>           I particulary want to know if there might be potential difficulties
> 
> in getting on to my ISP (dynamic IP address) , and then logging into my 
> College machine (UNIX ).
>           I can do this at present just with Win XP and telnet , but I would 
> 
> like to have something a bit like UNIX on my PC .
> 
> 
>                        Thanks ,
> 
>                      Jim Wood


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From mielikki1@subdimension.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: mielikki1@subdimension.com (mielikki1)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Xlib: No protocol specified (connection refused by server)
Message-ID: <3c59f37f.6802.1804289383@subdimension.com>

I just installed cygwin (version 2.125.2.10) and xfree
(4.2.0) and have run into a problem. It seems to work okay
locally (that is I can start the server and launch new
clients from my xterm window whether DISPLAY is set to
127.0.0.0:0 or my real IP address), but when I try to start
a client on a remote Red Hat Linux machine (over the
Internet or through a VPN) I get the following error:

  Xlib: connection to "x.y.z.t:0.0" refused by server
  Xlib: No protocol specified
  Error: Can't open display: x.y.z.t:0.0

I am running Windows ME and Zone Alarm. I get the same
problem if I turn Zone Alarm down to Low or even shut it
down. I can ping my Windows machine from the Linux box.

I couldn't find anything searching the archives here and
various Web engines.

Any thoughts? Any tests to try to narrow it down? I guess
I'll figure out what ports the X server is listening on and
see if I can connect to them...
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From Matthew.Codd@sita.int  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Matthew.Codd@sita.int (Matthew.Codd@sita.int)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Problem with Solaris
Message-ID: 

Stuart

Are you connecting to a Solaris 2.8 system?

I have exactly the same problem on 2.8, but can connect to Solaris systems
running 2.6 without any errors.

Matthew Codd



                                                                                                                         
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>I'm trying to get cygwin/xfree working using XDMCP from Solaris (on
sparc),
>but all I get is a black screen with an egg-timer.
>
>It works fine using XDMCP from a Linux host.
>
>Using X-Win32 on the same PC works fine to Linux AND Solaris.
>
>Under X-Win32, when I first connect I get the black egg-timer window, then
>almost immediately I get the CDE login prompt.
>Under cygwin/xfree, I get the black egg timer, but no prompt.  The
egg-timer
>follows my mouse around, so there is obviously some X stuff going on, but
>not quite enough.
>
>Any ideas ?????
>
>Thanks
>Stuart






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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Integrating xwinclip support
Message-ID: <200202030103.g1313SE57674@pilot26.cl.msu.edu>

> Can you make it still be an X client? If you can check that there are >1
> clients avaiable, and detach + return when there aren't...
> 
> Rob

The problem is that XNextEvent () is a blocking function, just like Win32's 
GetMessage () function.  The problem here is when the X Server exits or 
resets while XNextEvent () is blocking... in that case our X Client 
(xwinclip) gets no notification that the X Server is exiting or resetting and 
Xlib calls exit () for the X Client.  I'm trying to find a way around that... 
primarily by seeing if there is a way to get notification before Xlib calls 
exit (), that way we could close down the connection in a proper fashion.

Harold



From matthew.donald@motile.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: matthew.donald@motile.net (Matthew Donald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin as a telnet command shell...
References: <20020131140215.A21277@nimbus.dmillard.com> <3C5A7B47.9000502@gatwick.westerngeco.slb.com> <006001c1ab23$680ca9f0$d527a8c0@CACHAREL>
Message-ID: <02b101c1ac82$318329d0$2102a8c0@motile.net>

Hi Jean-Marc,

The Telnet Server Admin Tool has a 'Default Shell' setting.  Change this to
'C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe'.  This should fix your problem.

BTW, if you don't have the Telnet Server Admin Tool, install the full set of
admin tools off the Win2K Server install CD.

regards Matthew

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean-Marc Paulin" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 12:21 AM
Subject: Cygwin as a telnet command shell...


> Hi,
>
> I am running telnet server on Win2000. Does anyone know how to make cygwin
> my default shell when logged-in from telnet ?
>
> thanks
>
> JM
>



From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XWin terminates immediately under W2K
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

My mail seems to be on about a 1 hour delay... I wrote this message 50
minutes before it showed up... and I ended up saying the same thing as
Alexander.  Oh well...

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 1:37 PM
> To: Julian Smart
> Cc: cygx
> Subject: RE: XWin terminates immediately under W2K
>
>
> > Is there any log file I can look at? Or maybe there's a debug version of
> > XWin that I can try without having to recompile it myself...
>
> Just look at /tmp/XWin.log, and send the contents of the file to
> the mailing
> list.
>
> Harold
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

You can't.  You can read the PDF instead.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Egon Phillips [mailto:nigel_phillips@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 8:45 PM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Subject: RE: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Where can I get a zipped up version of the html manuals?
>
>
>
> >From: "Harold Hunt" 
> >To: 
> >Subject: RE: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
> >Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:38:02 -0500
> >
> >You need to be following the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide instructions for
> >installation... not the XFree86 general instructions.  The Cygwin/XFree86
> >User's Guide is located at:
> >
> >http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/
> >
> >Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of
> > > egon.phillips@sympatico.ca
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 12:43 PM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm trying to install cygwin/XFree86. I have run into trouble
> > > during the last
> > > two steps of the installation procedure, contained in the
> > > following document.
> > >
> > > Installation Details for XFree86[tm] 4.2.0
> > > The XFree86 Project, Inc
> > > 16 January 2002, Abstract
> > > (AKA INSTALL)
> > >
> > > Development Environment
> > > Win 2K, cygwin 1.3.10, Visual C++ EE, Progres 7.2
> > >
> > > Here is the output from the final two steps:
> > > .........
> > >
> > > admin@BigRed@GOONMUNSTER /home/TEMP
> > > $ /sbin/ldconfig /usr/X11R6/lib # For Linux
> > > bash: /sbin/ldconfig: No such file or directory
> > >
> > > admin@BigRed /home/TEMP
> > > $ /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/X11R6/lib # For FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD
> > > bash: /sbin/ldconfig: No such file or directory
> > >
> > >
> > > Can someone tell us how to solve this problem without compiling any
> >code?
> > >
> > > Is the ldconfig utility somewhere in the cygwin distribution? If
> > > not where can
> > > we get a binary?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanx Egon.
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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From gcruzicka@earthlink.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: gcruzicka@earthlink.net (Gene C. Ruzicka)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin-xfree newbie woes: of mice and xterm
Message-ID: <003001c1c2f7$a6d48220$d72af4d8@HUNG>

i just installed xfree, and i'm running into some weird problems. first,
using the left and center mouse buttons to cut and the center to paste
doesn't work when i invoke the xterm that's on my PC .  but when i
log onto my office UNIX workstation from home and run xterm
there with DISPLAY set to my PC, the cut/paste sequence works
fine.  

also, when i invoke xterm on my PC, the -title and -n options don
t work  i can't specify the window title even when i make the
request using the windowTitle resource, instead of putting the
request in the command line.

finally, is there a version of Motif somewhere that works with
Cygwin-Xfree?

thanx in advance for any and all help.

geme




From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Problems with BUNZIP2 and CYGWIN for install XFREE86
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268320E@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: pommier [mailto:pommiera@club-internet.fr]
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 4:30 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Problems with BUNZIP2 and CYGWIN for install XFREE86
> 
> I downloaded CYGWIN and XFREE86 but I had some problems when I want to
> launch the instruction BUNZIP2 extract for the XFREE86 archive (E.G
> bunzip2 extract.exe.bz2) . This instruction does'nt work (command not
> found)
> 
> I thing that instruction does'nt  exist into the basic distrib CYGWIN.
> Also, I dont have this software.
> 
> Cant you help me to find BUNZIP2 for CYGWIN into the net for
> downloading
> ?
> 
> What is the download site for BUNZIP2 ?
> 
> Thank


use cygwin setup.exe and make sure you have bzip2 checked when you install
cygwin.  It installs it by default.  Same download site from where you
downloaded Cywin

Suhaib


From fftdsp@yahoo.com.cn  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: fftdsp@yahoo.com.cn (=?gb2312?q?=C0=C9=CF=CC=B5=C0?=)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: question about XWin.exe
Message-ID: <20020105022034.64703.qmail@web15004.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>

when i runing :
XWin.exe -screen 0 800 600 -fullscreen -depth 32
-refresh 85 -emulate3buttons 100 -nowinkill -unixkill 

a gray window appeared
and cygwin stop at 
WinCreateDefColormap()-Deferring to 
fbCreateDefColormap()

who can give me some advise,thank you!

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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: tweak to startxwin.bat
In-Reply-To: <3C96016B.9060902@rhetorical.com>
Message-ID: 

Andrew,

Interesting point.

I'll look into that.

Thanks,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Andrew G. Wilson
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:02 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: tweak to startxwin.bat
> 
> 
> Just a quick note to whoever looks after the startup .bat file:
> 
> You can use the dos %VAR% to set the /B switch or not, thereby reusing 
> the same commands for the nt/2000 as for 95/98.
> 
> cheers
> Andrew
> 
> 
> REM
> REM Use the /B switch only when we can positively confirm that the OS
> REM is Windows NT/2000.  Do not use the switch in any other case.  This
> REM should work fine, as it assumes we cannot use /B, except when a
> REM criteria is met.  A previous verion of this batch file assumed that
> REM we could use /B, except when some criteria was met; needless to say,
> REM that didn't work.
> REM
> 
> 	if "%OS%" == "Windows_NT" set USE_B=/B
> 
> REM Startup the X Server.
> 
> start %USE_B% XWin -screen 0 1152 864
> 
> REM Startup an xterm, using bash as the shell.
> 
> start %USE_B% xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -e /usr/bin/bash
> 
> REM Startup the twm window manager.
> 
> start %USE_B% twm
> 


From andrewmayer@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: andrewmayer@yahoo.com (Dr. Andrew Mayer)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Xterm font changing...
Message-ID: <001001c19fc5$a84c4930$bf5667d8@leverage>



-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Andrew Mayer [mailto:mayer@eecs.berkeley.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:12 PM
To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
Subject: Xterm font changing...

I'm having some trouble dynamically changing fonts inside an xterm (with
the ctrl/rt-mouse menu).

I was able to alter that menu by hand-installing an app-default file for
xterm (N.B. this seems not to be included
In the distribution), but when I select alternate fonts, no action
appears to be taken.  Certainly the fonts do not
change.

However, when I run xfontsel I can select an alternate font and then
successfully choose it via the "selection"
menu entry.  So, only "selection" and default" appear to work.."huge",
"large", etc. appear not to.  But those
fonts do exist.if I create those exact fonts in xfontsel, or if I copy
valid xfontsel strings into my app-defaults
file, I get no improvement in behavior.

I'm sure someone else has encountered and solved this, but after hours
of searching here and google I've had no
luck in developing a set of text keys to pinpoint a solution.  

Thanks in advance,
Andrew


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From: mielikki1@subdimension.com (mielikki1)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Xlib: No protocol specified (connection refused by server)
Message-ID: <3c59fa28.af8.1804289383@subdimension.com>

I noticed this. I don't know why norton antivirus is doing
this (or even what it is doing). I also don't know if this
is the problem.

I have NAV's e-mail checking turned off. I even disabled
"auto-protect" and it still is doing something with the
ports.

C:\WINDOWS>netstat -a
Active Connections
 Proto Local Address Foreign Address State
 TCP   myhost1:6000  0.0.0.0:0       LISTENING
 TCP   myhost1:5000  0.0.0.0:0       LISTENING
 TCP   myhost1:4341  0.0.0.0:0       LISTENING
 TCP   myhost1:4343  0.0.0.0:0       LISTENING
 TCP   myhost1:1088  0.0.0.0:0       LISTENING
 TCP   myhost1:1090  0.0.0.0:0       LISTENING
 TCP   myhost1:4953  0.0.0.0:0       LISTENING
 TCP   myhost1:6000  pop3.norton.antivirus:4341 ESTABLISHED
 TCP   maxwell:6000  pop3.norton.antivirus:4343 ESTABLISHED
 TCP   myhost1:4341  pop3.norton.antivirus:6000 ESTABLISHED
 TCP   myhost1:4343  pop3.norton.antivirus:6000 ESTABLISHED
 TCP   myhost1:4345  pop3.norton.antivirus:6000 TIME_WAIT
 TCP   myhost1:4347  0.0.0.0:0       LISTENING
 UDP   myhost1:1900  *:*


> I just installed cygwin (version 2.125.2.10) and xfree
> (4.2.0) and have run into a problem. It seems to work okay
> locally (that is I can start the server and launch new
> clients from my xterm window whether DISPLAY is set to
> 127.0.0.0:0 or my real IP address), but when I try to
> start a client on a remote Red Hat Linux machine (over
> the Internet or through a VPN) I get the following
> error:
>
>   Xlib: connection to "x.y.z.t:0.0" refused by server
>   Xlib: No protocol specified
>   Error: Can't open display: x.y.z.t:0.0
>
> I am running Windows ME and Zone Alarm. I get the same
> problem if I turn Zone Alarm down to Low or even shut it
> down. I can ping my Windows machine from the Linux box.
>
> I couldn't find anything searching the archives here and
> various Web engines.
>
> Any thoughts? Any tests to try to narrow it down? I guess
> I'll figure out what ports the X server is listening on
> and see if I can connect to them...
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Question
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Cygwin/XFree86 has already been compiled.  The User's Guide tells how to
install the precompiled binaries.  There are no build host and cross
compiling host at all when you are trying to install software.

If, on the other hand, you were trying to compile Cygwin/XFree86, then you
need to look at the Contributor's Guide:
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Kesrin Hanprasert
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:18 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Question
>
>
> Dear Sir/Madam
>      I am learning about cygwin/Xfree86 because I use some model
> (use of C,
> Fortran and perl language) which must compile that on Window98 system.I
> loaded Cygwin/Xfree User's guide already and I try to follow that step by
> step.Now I have some question,Could you tell me?
>     1. I install Cygwin/Xfree on Window98.In this case:
>         -The native host is Window98,is't it?
>         - The build host is Cygwin,is't it?
>     2. In the case of compilling that model  according to use its on
> Window98,I must make cross-compiliing?
>     3. In the cross-compile step,I have some problem which I can't open a
> shell of cross-compile according to build gcc and binutil for
> cross-compilling because I don't understand the instruction in the User's
> guide that "Open a shell".Could you tell me ,the method for open that?
>      In my country ,nobody to recommend me about that,They use only pure
> Unix and Windows system.And it is the first time for me to use
> Cygwin/Xfree.
>     Thank you very much for your kindness.
> Best regards,
> Ms.Kesrin Hanprasert
> Thailand
>
>
>
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From rodneykelly@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rodneykelly@hotmail.com (Rodney Kelly)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: can't load javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalLookAndFeel 
Message-ID: 

Quick follow-up to my previous post.  The java app I was having trouble with 
on Solaris seems to launch fine when in 256 color mode.   It crashes at any 
other resolution.  Unfortunately this (256) makes everything else hard to 
read.  Any Suggestions?

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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: 8-bit PseudoColor 
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020201040408.00ae9500@mail.verizon.net>
Message-ID: 

Mark,

> The XFree port for Cygwin has some issues with color depths that I was
> curious as to whether there were any plans to solve in the next
> few releases.

Reworking the 8 bit color modes is only in the plans for the next release if
you plan on doing the reworking.

> I personally do not know much about how X handles its colors.  Though I
> have always thought it was in need of a major rework.  However,
> right now I
> think it would be good to get the Cygwin port working the same as
> the Linux
> version when it comes to this issue.

I learned everything I needed to know to write the current implementation in
no more than 5 hours.  It should take you much less time, as the code is
heavily commented.

Good luck, and I hope to see your progress soon!

Harold


From rasjidw@bigpond.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rasjidw@bigpond.com (Rasjid Wilcox)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Windows based app.server
In-Reply-To: <200202061144.SM00180@lib15.denefield.org.uk>
References: <200202061144.SM00180@lib15.denefield.org.uk>
Message-ID: <200202061235.XAA15173@cts01.webone.com.au>

On Thu, 1 Jan 1970 10:00 am, Chris Howells wrote:
> With an X server running on a Win32 machine, it's possible to run X
> applications (e.g. on Linux) and have them sent over the network to appear
> on the Win32 machine.
>
> However, has anybody tried the other way around -- having Windows
> applications appearing on a Linux desktop, the Windows applications all
> being run through a specific Windows (NT) based application server?
>
> For example, imagine a network running almost entirely Linux, but needing
> to run a few legacy Windows applications. What I would like is for the user
> (sitting in front of Linux box with X) to be able to click on an icon for a
> Windows application, causing the application to start running on a Windows
> (NT) based application server. The program would entirely run on the
> Windows server, but the screen output would be sent over the network so it
> could be controlled by the user sitting on their Linux/X machine.
>
> I'm just wondering if this is possible?
>
> Many thanks,
> Chris Howells

I don't know if this would work with an NT application server.  However, have 
a look at VNC.

The original version is at:
http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/

There is a low bandwidth version:
http://www.tightvnc.org/

and a supported version:
http://www.tridiavnc.com/

This will at least partly do what you want (although only for one user at a 
time, due to windows single user structure).

Rasjid.


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From jethro@freakzilla.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jethro@freakzilla.com (Yaron)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: aterm under Cygwin/Xfree
Message-ID: 

  Hey all,

I've been using Cygwin for ages, and had installed the xfree package
around a year ago. I wasn't actually running the xserver under Cygwin
because a year ago it wasn't all that usable yet. I was using Exceed,
which is a commercial X server, and was using the cygwin/xfree X
applications.

I had also compiled aterm under cygwin and was using that.

Lately I installed a new machine, and decided to try cygwin/xfree on it. I
was delighted to see that the X server is now perfectly usable! However,
aterm no longer worked correctly. The aterm seems to be waiting for some
sort of buffer to fill before it refreshes it's display. Either that or
there's some sort of timing issue. Either way, it makes aterm almost
unusable.

The thing is, I thought this was a cygwin/xfree problem, since my old
machine had not had cygwin updated on it in a while, and still had X 3.3.6
on it. But about a week ago I upgraded cygwin (and NOT xfree) on my old
machine, and aterm started exhibiting the same problem.

I don't know if this is the right mailing list for this since it doesn't
seem to be an xfree problem, but I figure people on this list might have
encountered this sort of problem. I saw a similar question in the archive,
but with no solution.


TIA,


-Yaron

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From NikolayMetchev@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: NikolayMetchev@hotmail.com (Nikolay Metchev)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cannot start XServer
References: 
Message-ID: 

Harold,

my network is Ethernet.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: "Nikolay Metchev" ;

Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:49 PM
Subject: RE: Cannot start XServer


> Nikolay,
>
> Is your network token-ring or ethernet?
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Nikolay Metchev
> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 5:38 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Cannot start XServer
> >
> >
> > I sent the e-mail below .  I have been asked to provide additional
> > information. I am using Windows XP. I have a TCP/IP LAN using internet
> > connection sharing. I do not use Zone Alarm or any other personal
firewall
> > tool. I still get the error message listed below.
> >
> > > I have installed the 4.2.0 version of Cygwin/XFree86 on my Windows XP
> > laptop
> > > using a second monitor and when I tried to run the XServer a window of
> > some
> > > sort appeared and then disappeared leaving this message:
> > > $ ./startxwin.bat
> > > startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows NT/2000
> > > XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server
> > > "127.0.0.1:0.0"
> > > XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server
> > > "127.0.0.1:0.0"
> > >
> > >       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
> > >       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
> > >       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
> > >
> > > any ideas what I am doing wrong?
> > >
>
>


From cpraber@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cpraber@yahoo.com (Raber Chris)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window.
In-Reply-To: <20020111143359.40568.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020111144546.83630.qmail@web13506.mail.yahoo.com>

Brian,

You are a bit confused by my question because I am
confused and propagating confusion!

I am not sure if I want to run a different window
manager or not. What I want is to be able to run a
browser window from the remote Linux machine on my
XWin client on cygwin. The reason is that I am going
to be doing some installs via that browser and it
makes my life easier (i.e. easier than using lynx that
is).

If I need to run a different window manager, then so
be it. I have been reading about XDMCP but I don't
fully get it. Can you point me to the best place to
learn how to set up XDMCP for the Linux box? Is this a
good reference:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/

Thanks again,

-Chris.

--- Brian Genisio  wrote:
> Well, I am a bit confused about your question.  If
> you are looking to run
> annother window manager, but not run it from the
> Windows box, then run it from
> the the linux box...
> 
> Get the XFree/Cygwin server up
> From the Linux box, run the windows manager... (ex.
> fvwm -display windows:0)
> 
> I like using the XDMCP feature, documented on the
> website.  XDMCP allows you to
> log in remotely, and ship your desktop to the
> XFree/Cygwin server.  It works
> well.  
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> --- Raber Chris  wrote:
> > Reposting, I don't need a direct email response. I
> > found the WEB UI to the list archive...
> > 
> > First, thanks for Xfree/cygwin. Just what I needed
> to
> > do some remote Linux work from my PC.
> > 
> > I have cygwin/xfree and can start remote xterms
> from a
> > linux server just fine. I'd like to be able to run
> a
> > netscape or other browser from my remote linux
> > machine, but trying to run netscape doesn't seem
> to
> > work.
> > 
> > I am using the twm. Do I have to run kde or gnome
> to
> > pull this off? What is the simplest way to use
> some
> > other window manager? I'd prefer not to have to
> > install another wm on my pc if I don't have to.
> > 
> > Suggestions are much appreciated.
> > 
> > TIA,
> > 
> > -Chris.
> > 
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ?
In-Reply-To: <20020129202641.28077.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

Brian,

> So you said earlier that you were running ICE Window manager... 
> Did you compile
> (or acquire binaries) for the most recent version of ICE?  Have 
> you tried twm
> instead?  I am pretty sure that is packaged with the Cygwin/XFree 
> binaries.  I
> know twm is much smaller and less complex than ICE.  If it is 
> not, do a quick
> search through /usr/X11R6/bin for *wm*, and try to run one of the window
> managers you already have.  Possibly ICE is the problem?

Now that is an excellent idea :)

Harold


From bozackt1@ridgecrest.ca.us  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: bozackt1@ridgecrest.ca.us (Tom Bozack)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Sound makes cygwin/xfree86 lock up
Message-ID: <3C92E286.1040900@ridgecrest.ca.us>

I'm using cygwin/Xfree86 to login to a KDE session on a Linux host using 
XDMCP.  Everything works fine until the client requests a service that 
the server can't provide such as sound.  When that happens the server 
locks up and becomes unresponsive.  The only way to recover is to 
restart the cygwin/XFree86 server and login again to the nost compter. 
Needless to say this is very frustrating.

Does anyone know of a way to prevent this from happening other than not 
do anything that requests sound support (or any other service that 
cygwin?XFree86 can't provide)?

Thanks,
Tom


From rasjidw@bigpond.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rasjidw@bigpond.com (Rasjid Wilcox)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: problem with cygwin-xfree
In-Reply-To: <006e01c1bb75$46f4f170$5fc9e6a5@SILICON>
References: <006e01c1bb75$46f4f170$5fc9e6a5@SILICON>
Message-ID: <200202220905.UAA19631@cts01.webone.com.au>

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 6:48 pm, Frank Zimmermann wrote:
> Hi, I installed cygwin-xfree86 on my PC running Windows XP, following the
> online instructions step-by-step. I can run it, but can't use telnet or ssh
> (telnet.exe and ssh.exe cannot be found anywhere, and the /usr/bin
> directory is missing). I already tried reinstalling it, unsuccessfully.
> What could be going wrong?
>

Telnet and SSH are part of Cygwin, and are not particularly related to 
Cygwin-XFree.  You need to select them within the Cygwin Setup, as I don't 
think they are installed by default.

Run the Cygwin setup.exe and have a bit more of a look around.

Rasjid.


From bozackt1@ridgecrest.ca.us  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: bozackt1@ridgecrest.ca.us (Tom Bozack)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xwin.exe stalls and seg faults
Message-ID: <3C5212C9.5080504@ridgecrest.ca.us>

Hi

I just installed cygwin-xfree on a PC to use as an login to a Linux
machine running KDE on Mandrake 8.1.  It works great -- for about 2 
mintutes.  Then is becomes slow and unresponsive and eventually dies 
with a segmentation fault.  The machine I'm running cygwin-xfree86 on is 
a 366 Mhz Pentium with 128 MB of memory.

Here's how I execute XWin.exe:


XWin.exe -screen 0 1024x768 -from 192.168.0.2 -query 192.168.0.1


and here are the resulting messages written to shell window:


ddxProcessArgument ()
ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 9 i: 1
ddxProcessArgument ()
ddxProcessArgument ()
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000017
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits 
per pixel
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 714 r 1018 l 
0 b 714 t 0
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 2036
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00007c00 000003e0 0000001f BPRGB 5 d 16
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:30:40 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 3 rejected from 
IP 192.168.0.1 port 34243
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:30:55 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 4 rejected from 
IP 192.168.0.1 port 34258
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:31:10 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 10 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34269
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:31:25 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 2 rejected from 
IP 192.168.0.1 port 34290
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:31:41 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 2 rejected from 
IP 192.168.0.1 port 34294
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:31:56 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34296
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:32:11 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34301
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:32:26 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34302
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:32:41 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34307
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:32:56 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34321
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:33:11 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34325
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:33:26 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34329
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:33:41 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34333
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:33:56 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34335
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:34:11 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34336
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:34:26 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34337
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:34:41 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34338
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:34:56 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34339
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:35:11 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34355
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:35:26 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34358
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:35:41 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34359
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:35:56 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34360
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:36:11 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34369
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:36:26 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34375
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:36:41 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34376
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:36:56 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34377
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:37:11 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34383
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:37:26 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34386
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:37:41 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34394
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:38:01 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34405
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:38:16 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34406
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:38:34 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34407
AUDIT: Thu Jan 24 20:38:52 2002: 571715 XWin.exe: client 17 rejected 
from IP 192.168.0.1 port 34408

I assume the problem is related to the "AUDIT" message, but I don't know 
the cause or how to correct it.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Tom


From nicolae_santean@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nicolae_santean@hotmail.com (Nicolae Santean)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xdvi/xfree86/cygwin error ...
Message-ID: 


Has anybody given a solution to the problem below? I am
running into the same problem and I would greatly appreciate
any guidance.     -- Nick,   nicolae_santean@hotmail.com
------------------------------------------------------------
I've just setup Cygwin/Latex/XFree86 and am trying
to setup xdvi. I followed the previous threads to
correct the xdvi makefile such that make, and
make install, appear to work correctly.

However, if I startx and try to open a dvi
document, xdvi spits out some errors, and then dies.

The errors I am seeing are:

fcntl F_SETOWN (xdvi): Invalid argument
setsid: Not owner
- mktexpk --mfmode cx --bdpi 300 --mag 'magstep(0)' --dpi 300 cmtt10 '>&3'
xdvi: fcntl F_SETOWN: Invalid argument
xdvi: ! Out of memory (reallocating 134195587 bytes).

I checked on the ownership flags of /usr/bin/xdvi.exe
and they look ok.

What have I overlooked / screwed up!?

Thanks for the help.

Regards,

Dave Hawkins
Caltech
dwh@ovro.caltech.edu

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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xwinclip comment
In-Reply-To: <20020123123347.88735.qmail@web20801.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

I think it goes without saying that the primary goal is to avoid all polling
solutions until any other feasible solution has been ruled out.  We're still
in the stages of ruling out other possibilities.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Genisio [mailto:briangenisio@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 7:34 AM
> To: Harold Hunt; Josh Baudhuin
> Cc: cygx
> Subject: RE: xwinclip comment
>
>
> Well, I havent seen the code in a while, but I assume that you you use a
> standard X event loop...
>
> while(!done)
> {
>   wait_for_events()
>   if(is_property_notify)
>     read_and_handle_property()
>   send_event_to_x()
> }
>
> Might you, instead, change this from event driven to polling?
>
> while(!done)
> {
>   read_property()
>   if(new_property != known_property)
>     copy_property()
>   sleep
> }
>
> This way, you dont need to register for events on the property.
>
> You could sleep for 250 ms for instance, which, in worst case, is
> probably long
> enough. (warning : usleep() is not thread safe, so you could probably use
> signals to handle a timeout).  OR, you could throw this into xt,
> and use the
> timout capability, but that seems like too much for too little.
> Also, dont
> forget to use semaphores when copying (and reading from the
> windows thread) the
> known_property.
>
>
> I hope this helps in the brainstorming process, at least,
> Brian
>
>
>
> --- Harold Hunt  wrote:
> > Josh,
> >
> > Originally, I was going to answer your suggestion of using
> separate threads
> > with the boilerplate response that, "threads don't fix
> anything, and they
> > usually just complicate things".  However, I started thinking about the
> > problem, and it turns out that threads are pretty useful in this
> > circumstance.
> >
> > The reason that xwinclip steals the XA_PRIMARY selection as
> soon as a client
> > (xterm) modifies that selection is that xwinclip needs to be
> the owner of
> > the XA_PRIMARY selection in order to receive notification when
> the selection
> > is updated.  If xwinclip doesn't receive notification of a
> selection update,
> > then xwinclip can't copy the new selection data to the Windows
> clipboard.
> > The end result would be that you would select data in an X
> client, but that
> > data would not be available in Windows.  Actually, the first
> time that you
> > select data in an X client it would be available in Windows (as xwinclip
> > would receive notification upon losing ownership of
> XA_PRIMARY), however,
> > subsequent modifications of XA_PRIMARY by either the same X client or
> > another X client would not cause xwinclip to be notified, thus
> preventing
> > the subsequent selections from being available in Windows.
> >
> > I went ahead and rewrote xwinclip using threads.  Threads make
> xwinclip a
> > little less kludgy, but, unfortunately, they don't solve the problem
> > described above.  That is, we still need a way for xwinclip to
> be notified
> > when *any* X client modifies XA_PRIMARY, not just when xwinclip loses
> > ownership of XA_PRIMARY because an X client has modified it.
> Only then will
> > xwinclip be able to stop stealing ownership of the XA_PRIMARY selection.
> >
> > It is possible that a simple solution exists... but I haven't yet come
> > across it.  I'm sure Alan H. will email me immediately afterwards with a
> > suggestion :)
> >
> > Hope that helps to explain the undesired behavior,
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Josh Baudhuin [mailto:joshb@cadence.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:48 PM
> > > To: huntharo@msu.edu
> > > Subject: xwinclip comment
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, Harold
> > >
> > >    Thanks for the xwinclip--I just came across it yesterday and am
> > > (mostly!) lovin' it. The sole complaint I have is that it seems to
> > > hijack the selection immediately after it's established in another X
> > > app. Thus, for example, if I select something in an XTerm,
> the highlight
> > > vanishes after I let go of the mouse button.
> > >    Is this something that requires integration w/ the X server app? Or
> > > is the problem that you need to avoid having two event loops
> (one for X
> > > and one for Windoze)? You might try putting them in separate
> threads, in
> > > case of the latter...
> > >
> > > --Josh
> >
>
>
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From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: image viewer?
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26832F0@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>

 You can use ImageMagick.  It compiles out of the box under Cygwin/Xfree.
It is a real good one too.

Suhaib

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Humpherys [mailto:phil@dmillard.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:02 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: image viewer?
> 
> 
> I'd sure like to have an image viewer of some kind in 
> cygwin-xfree. I couldn't get xv to compile...  anyone have 
> any suggestions?
> 


From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Egon Phillips wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> The problem was not related to Zone Alarm Pro 3.X, but was the font error 
> described in the FAQ.  I fixed it by using winrar to extract the following 
> files:

Argl. _ONLY_ use the cygwin tar to extract archives. For the fonts it seems
to be no problem. But other archives contain symlinks which are not 
created correctly by winrar, winzip or other non-cygwin archivers.

bye
    ago
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Unable to type letters in login to AIX box using XFree86 4.2.0 on W2K
In-Reply-To: <0135721076EED111A2FA00805F0DAF5B02419A97@phobos.a4healthsystems.com>
Message-ID: 

I've never seen this problem.  Best of luck.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Moore, Billiam
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:29 PM
> To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
> Subject: Unable to type letters in login to AIX box using XFree86 4.2.0
> on W2K
>
>
>   I have XFree86 installed on Windows 2000 SP 2 using all the defaults (no
> mods to any config files for X) and can run local X programs (e.g. LyX)
>
> when I run
>
>     XWin -screen 0 1024 768 -query 172.16.11.155 -from 172.16.46.120
>
> to get a CDE session on an AIX box, I get the login screen but cannot type
> in letters in the login name text box.
>
> - I can type in spaces and backspaces and the tab and enter
> buttons work so
> the keyboard is at least partially recognized.
> - The mouse is fully functional.
> - I can get to the AIX box through Hummingbirds Exceed so I am fairly sure
> that is confgured correctly
>
>   Everything I have found in the FAQs and web searches deals with
> not being
> able to connect at all or having the wrong key map. I am using no key map
> which I understand means I am using the default US one which
> should be fine.
> Has anyone run into this before or can anyone point me in a direction to
> further trouble shoot?


From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268323E@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Collins [mailto:robert.collins@itdomain.com.au] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 8:37 AM
> To: Ralf Habacker; Cygwin-Xfree
> Subject: Re: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ralf Habacker" 
> > That are good news. I have seen that libxslt is also released. What
> about xfree ? Are there
> > any plans to add xfree to the distribution ?
> 
> I hope so. The updated setup that lifted the package 
> moratorium has been out for a couple of months now, so there 
> is no reason not to add X as a package in the net distro.
> 
> Suhaib? What do you think?
> 
> Rob
> 

I will start working on it, pershaps starting from this weekend.  

Suhaib


From kufcffo@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: kufcffo@yahoo.com (dave hmm)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: startx.bat missing
Message-ID: <20020110105542.24017.qmail@web20105.mail.yahoo.com>

I just installed xfree, and i'm missing startx.bat. I
don't have startx.sh either. How do I make a
startx.bat file?

Thanks & regards

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From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Installing extra packages?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

/ Lars Jensen  wrote:
| I juts tried to install Xf100.tgz on top of an initial xfree
| installation. The instructions in the Install file supplied with xfree
| 4.2.0 says to install the fonts by using 
| 
| extract -C /usr/X11R6 Xf100.tgz
| 
| I tried this and get an error that extract needs more flags. Which flags
| should I use to install extra packages?

I believe the included extract in cygwin xfree is gnu tar, so I think:
prompt> cd /usr/X11R6
prompt> tar xvfz Xf100.tgz 

is one correct way.. 

        /Andy

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From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: german keybord with Cygwin Xfree 86
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 rene.pizur@accenture.com wrote:

> Hello Alexander,
> 
> I'm connecting with startxwin.bat to Sun Solaris mashine and I want to have
> german keyboard.
> I have already downloaded xmodmap.de (don't know - where should this file
> be saved)

There is now a much easier way can you please test the xserver from
 and


This modified version uses the xf86config file and sets the keyboard to 
the configured keymap on startup

bye
    ago
BTW: I CCed to the cygwin-xfree mailing list.    
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From vlaero@yahoo.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: vlaero@yahoo.com.au (=?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Jansen?=)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xdm under windows?
Message-ID: <20020324233617.82887.qmail@web12907.mail.yahoo.com>

I relaise this is a bit strange but is it possible to
run xdm under windows?  Everytime I fire it up it says
'only root wants to run xdm'.
Is there any way to do this?  I was thinking of just
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From diffusedmind@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: diffusedmind@yahoo.com (Ken)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Dvorak keyboard
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020210121730.00a538c0@pop.mail.yahoo.com>

I'm running GAIM, on cygwin, with xf86, glib, gtk, and window maker 
installed. When I run X, the keyboard layout is qwerty. How can I change it 
to dvorak?


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From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Log filling up
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020227162247.GF1111@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

You could always do

rm /tmp/XWin.log
ln -s /dev/null /tmp/XWin.log

That should work and dump to /dev/null.

Alan.

On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 09:11:03 -0700, Cary Jamison wrote:
> Modifying the code to put the log in /dev/null certainly doesn't seem like an attractive solution.  If I were to go that far, I would rather just search for where the particular message is output that is causing the problem and disable it.
> 
> Do others not have this problem?  The only unique thing about my setup is that I use Andrei Gourianov's goScreen as a virtual desktop manager under windows.  I haven't tested to see if this affects the XWin.log or not.  I can't imagine that it would, since the log fills up even when my desktop is set to the one where X is running, so it shouldn't see any difference.
> 
> What is the purpose of this message (winCursorOffScreen () - hmm...)?  It seems pretty useless.
> 
> It would seem like a good idea to be able to configure where the log file goes, though.  I never like seeing such things hard coded in a program.
> 
> Cary
> 
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From mtang1@oslo.westerngeco.slb.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: mtang1@oslo.westerngeco.slb.com (Michael Tang)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Do I need X11/R6....... on KDE?
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020110113057.02484ef0@wgmail3.oslo.eur.slb.com>

Hello Gurus,

I have those X11/R6 binaries and am running them. Good stuff. Now, I am 
tempted to installed the KDE 2.2.1 on machine to have a try.

Question:
Do I still need X11/R6 X-stuff before I can use KDE? I would like to 
removed them if KDE runs without these X11/R6 binaries.... I am running 
short of disk space...

Thanks and regards,
Michael


From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020129171808.92838.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com>

Appologies... This is something I knew, but worded my statement wrong.  At the
time, I did not know the OS, or how he was starting the X server (could have
been command line)... My statement was more to explain that the -engine 1
option should not have been used.... One of those "I knew what I meant"
statements...

Anyways,  sorry... not good at getting my point across.
B


--- Harold Hunt  wrote:
> Brian,
> 
> > Make sure you are running engine 4.
> 
> That is somewhat misleading advice.  There is code in the server that
> detects which engines types are supported.  Engine 4, the best performing
> engine, is used whenever it is supported.  Thus, to tell the user to use
> engine 4 is likely to just send them on a wild goose chase.  Jean-Marc has
> Windows 2000 which means that DirectX 4+ is installed, so XWin will always
> use engine 4 on his system.
> 
> Harold
> 


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Cygwin/XFree86 Frequently Asked Questions -- typo
Message-ID: 

I had meant to send this reply to Jeremiah to the list, to address the issue
of 'whom' in a fair manner.

Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:19 PM
To: jkshapiro@alumni.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: RE: Cygwin/XFree86 Frequently Asked Questions -- typo


Jeremiah,

Well, if the usage of 'whom' and 'who' really, really bothers you, then I'll
make a proposal:

I will accept, without argument, a patch from you [or anyone else] against
the freshly released documentation sources that changes the current usage of
'who' and 'whom', with one condition: your patch must make a significant
(non-editorial) contribution to at least one other Q/A item in the FAQ.
(Adding a Q/A item would be considered significant).

Sound fair?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremiah Kivi Shapiro [mailto:jeremiah_shapiro@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 7:56 PM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Subject: RE: Cygwin/XFree86 Frequently Asked Questions -- typo
>
>
> Dear Harold,
>
> Thanks for the link to
> - http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?whom
>
> "Whom" definitely is an English word, and I agree it should be
> used as much
> as possible.  However, I do think its use in sections 9.4-9.6 of
> the FAQ is
> a little overenthusiastic.  Here are some other links on the subject:
> - http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?who
> - http://m-w.com/wftw/00sep/092600.htm
> - http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19970711
> - http://www.guardian.co.uk/styleguide/page/0,5817,184822,00.html
> - http://www.bartleby.com/68/15/6515.html
> - http://www.bartleby.com/68/62/3062.html
>
> Yours sincerely,
> Jeremiah
>
>
>
> >From: "Harold Hunt" 
> >To: 
> >CC: "cygx" 
> >Subject: RE: Cygwin/XFree86 Frequently Asked Questions -- typo
> >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:21:08 -0500
> >
> >Jeremiah,
> >
> > > I did notice a recurring typo, though:  in sections 9.4-9.6, you
> > > have "whom"
> > > where you should have "who".
> >
> >The word 'whom' is not a typo.  The usage of 'whom' is one of the finer
> >points of the English language.  I can assure you that I used it
> correctly,
> >as an interrogative.  The definition and usage of 'whom' is discussed at:
> >http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?whom
> >
> >Thanks all the same,
> >
> >Harold
> >
> >P.S. A link to the sections in question:
> >http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-copyri
ght-cygwin-
>xfree86
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeremiah Kivi Shapiro [mailto:jeremiah_shapiro@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:15 PM
> > To: huntharo@msu.edu
> > Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 Frequently Asked Questions -- typo
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Thanks for the Cygwin/XFree86 FAQ!  It's very handy, and one of
> > the reasons
> > I'll be giving the program(s?) a try.
> >
> > I did notice a recurring typo, though:  in sections 9.4-9.6, you
> > have "whom"
> > where you should have "who".
> >
> > Yours sincerely,
> > Jeremiah
>


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: problem with keyobord on AIX
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Pavel,

> When I omit -kb parameter and let the NumLock key off, everything
> is OK and
> XWin uses English keyboard layout.
> When I omit -kb parameter and let the NumLock key on, it works like AltGr
> is permanently pressed and XWin uses Czech keyboard layout (my Windows
> default), that means I can write special characters only - like \|[]{}#<>

I still have no idea what is going on.  Is your AIX machine configured to
expect the Czech keyboard layout?  Or, does your AIX machine expect a US
keyboard layout?

In fact, I barely understand how the various keyboard layout systems work...
nor do I have time to learn the intricacies of them.

I don't think I'll have any time within the next year to learn keyboard
layouts, so you'd better just work on it yourself if you want any changes
made.

Sorry, but I am incredibly busy now because I am in my last semester of
college.

Good luck,

Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Win98 Error - "Could not create primary surface"
In-Reply-To: <200202071130.NAA08205@zoran.co.il>
Message-ID: 

Gal,

> I'm trying to install xfree 4.0.2 on Win98/cygwin.

Just a quick check before I delve into the details:  you did mean _4.2.0_,
right?  If you meant 4.0.2 then we probably can't help you :)

> A more specific error message is given in
> the xwin.log file (attached). Also, the cygwin.out file
> (result of running 'cygcheck -s -v -r > cygcheck.out').
> is attached.

Thanks for supplying XWin.log, that really helped to diagnose the problem.

I looked up DirectDraw error 8876024e, which is named:
DDERR_UNSUPPORTEDMODE.

Basically I'm going to guess that your video card drivers are not very
cooperative with DirectDraw.  The most likely solution would be to try
upgrading your video drivers and make sure that you have DirectX 8.1
installed.  Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ to upgrade DirectX 8.1
(and to get lots of other Windows bug fixes, etc.).

Let us know if new drivers fix the problem.

Harold


From mstucky5@cox.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: mstucky5@cox.net (mstucky5)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: missing telnet, solution
References: <20020322203721.GM25487@redhat.com>  <20020324024635.GB11351@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <04d301c1d452$26a77500$9c140944@ri.cox.net>

This whole thread got me thinking about possible ways
to avoid this "xxx is missing" problem...

I thought that I'd throw an idea out for discussion...

Would it make sense to have setup install a dummy
script for some of the common utilities and then
overwrite that script with the actual utility if
it is selected from the gui as it should be?

Assume that the missing utility is called "ttt.exe"
Have setup create

   /bin/missing

and link "ttt.exe" to missing

   ln -s /bin/missing /bin/telnet.exe


stuckymb [547] > ls -l missing ttt.exe
-rwxr-xr-x    1 stuckymb mygroup       214 Mar 25 18:00 missing
lrwxrwxrwx    1 stuckymb mygroup        94 Mar 25 17:58 ttt.exe ->
missing
stuckymb [548] >
stuckymb [548] >
stuckymb [548] >
stuckymb [548] > cat missing
#!/bin/sh

echo "If you are seeing this message, it means that the"
echo " "
echo "   $0"
echo " "
echo 'still needs to be selected from within "setup"'
echo " "
echo 'Please re-run "setup"'
echo " "


stuckymb [549] >
stuckymb [549] >
stuckymb [549] >
stuckymb [549] > ttt.exe
If you are seeing this message, it means that the

   ./ttt.exe

still needs to be selected from within "setup"

Please re-run "setup"




When setup is re-run to download the actual ttt.exe
the dummy ttt.exe could be deleted and then replaced
with the correct executable.

Just my 0.02 cents worth...

--Mark



----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Faylor" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: missing telnet, solution


> On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 06:18:05PM +0100, Palic, Darko wrote:
> >Hello Christopher,
> >
> >okay it is nice to follow the request of the users, but why isn't a
> >selectbox available, there something like "basic/minimal,
common/typical and
> >complete" could be selected instead of changing the whole setup? It
would
> >help!
>
> What answer are you expecting?  It's a volunteer project.  We make
> changes as time permits and as people are inclined.  We thought the
> current setup with categories would be an improvement and apparently
it
> wasn't.  It never occurred to us that people wouldn't be able to
figure
> out that you could click on things and see packages to install.  But,
> that was the case.
>
> Once it became clear that there was a problem and that people didn't
> like having to select things individually, I would have liked to see
an
> immediate resolution of the problem but it just didn't happen.  It's
not
> like I can fire anyone for not improving setup for you.  I'm just damn
> grateful that Robert and others are spending time working on it at
all.
>
> Anyway, the new, just released, version of setup has some improvements
> for selecting whole categories.  That should make things much easier.
>
> We're discussing other alternatives all of the time but the basic
> problem is that we have a lot of people who just ask aggrieved
questions
> like the above or who repeat the same observations that have been made
> countless times before, and very few people who are actually willing
to
> help make things better.
>
> If you want to contribute (and apparently you do), then setup.exe
discussions
> are happening in the cygwin-apps mailing lists.  If you have further
questions,
> you should (after reviewing the mail archives there) send them there.
>
> cgf
>
> > I think the change you're referring to was that we added, at the
request
> > of many users, a minimal install.  It's based on the debian "base"
> > category, which does not include bzip2.  The default installation is
a
> > really basic one and it's looking like we need to change that.
> >
> > Anyway, I'll try to keep in this in mind if we change something in
the
> > future that impacts Cygwin/XFree86.  It never occurred to me that
this
> > would be an issue.
>


From edi@serbski-institut.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 work with Japanese characters?
In-Reply-To: <20020326194417.GD10851@redhat.com>
References: <20020326164144.GA6601@redhat.com>
	<20020326.184547.41637619.edi@serbski-institut.de>
	<20020326194417.GD10851@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20020327.081453.74732114.edi@serbski-institut.de>

From: Christopher Faylor 
Subject: Re: xfree86 work with Japanese characters?
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 14:44:17 -0500

> On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 06:45:47PM +0100, PD Dr. Edward Wornar wrote:
> >For me (emacs/mew, mozilla, konqueror) it does.
> 
> xterm, too?

I don't know. The fonts are obviously there.
I don't have a Japanese xterm installed. Why don't you just try?
(Or tell me what I have to do to try and tell you.)

Cheers

Edi


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XWin terminates immediately under W2K
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20020205181344.029cfe40@pop>
Message-ID: 

Julian,

Your question pointed out a deficiancy in the FAQ, so I added a new Q/A for
you:
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-log-file-location

Thanks for catching that one,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Julian Smart
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 1:14 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: XWin terminates immediately under W2K
>
>
> At 06:59 PM 2/5/02 +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote:
>  >On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Julian Smart wrote:
>  >
>  >> Is there any log file I can look at?
>  >
>  >Yes. It should be created in /tmp/XWin.log
>
> Excellent, I'll be able to get a lot further now, and the error
> messages are documented in the FAQ.
>
> Many thanks!
>
> Julian
> --
> Red Hat UK Ltd, Unit 200 Rustat House, 62 Clifton Road,
> Cambridge, UK. CB1 7EG Tel: +44 (1223) 271063


From ssiddiqi@ssiddiqi.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@ssiddiqi.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Porting Xfree 86 to  Windows 2000
In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2B4FD73@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C266AAE4@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>



> On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Venkatesh  Ballani wrote:
> 
> > HI,
> > 	Thanks for information, I have specific problem....i 
> want to convert 
> > whole Xfree86 package into windows 2000..which later ported into 
> > target platform..while porting Xfree86 into windows 2000 
> using nmake 
> > command...
> 
> There is also a project which tries to compile xfree86 with 
> the MS SDK. See http://sources.redhat.com/win32-x11/
> 
> > system generates errors at imake.c .... Please guide 
> me.,... is there 
> > any other way to solve this problem....


I replied to this on win32-x11 mailing list.  A clip of a few error
messages are not going to help diagnose problem.  If you are attempting
to compile xfree86 on Win32 using MSVC, it needs a lot patching... and
as Alexander mentioned a high level of programming skill.  The WIN32-X11
project DOE NOT attempt to port XFree86 to Win32.  It is X11R6.5 based
with server code and patches added to the X11R6.5.x sources tree.
Although, I had been working on patching Xfree86 to compile with MSVC++,
but due to busy schedule it is far from complete.  I had not released
any patches for xfree86 to compile MSVC yet.

Suhaib



> 
> Sorry, I can neither guess what errors you get, nor am I 
> willing to describe C basics. Porting a project as complex as 
> xfree requires a high level of 
> programming skills. 
> 
> If you want to start contributing to this project, please read 
> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/ 
> 
> Maybe this will also help you with your problem.
> 
> bye
> 	ago
> BTW: Please keep replys to the mailing list  
> -- 
>  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
>  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
>  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017
> 


From bernd.hebel@vd-kva.sg.ch  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: bernd.hebel@vd-kva.sg.ch (Hebel Bernd VD_KVA)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Problems with XFree86
Message-ID: <70470420735FD511B4EF00805FF539D27FA6DB@fd-afi-sbiex02.exch.sg.ch>

Dear Cygwin-experts,

I am facing Problems using the Cygwin Bash Shell and XFree86 on a Windows NT
4.0 workstation. Starting XFree with help of the startxwin.bat olny results
in a blanc window with no action. Neither a background nor a pointer or a
terminal window appear. As I however start a XFree for a second time
(leaving the first open), I sometimes (but very rarely) do recieve a correct
window with background, pointer and a terminal window within it (although an
error message appears telling me that the directory \cygwin\tmp\.X11-unix\X0
is not empty).

How can I make this somewhat correct second startup happen regularely and
already with the first regular startup? What is wrong with my
XFree-environment, does anybody have any experience with this?

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From egon.phillips@sympatico.ca  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: egon.phillips@sympatico.ca (egon.phillips@sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Missing File Xvar.tgz on mirror
Message-ID: <20020306174645.IWT14955.tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209.226.175.20]>

Hi,

The Mirror subtree:

mirrors.rcn.net
mirrors/sources.redhat.com/cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0

is missing the file Xvar.tgz

I picked it up from 
/mirrors/sources.redhat.com/cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.1.0/Xvar.tgz

maybe it will work, maybe i won't? In anycase could you drop the correct file 
in the subtree.

Thanx Egon.



From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DirectDrawCreate
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Alexander,

> in winengine.c, line 86. Via GetProcAddress you get the symbol
> from the dll
>
>       /* Try to get the DirectDrawCreate address */
>       fpDirectDrawCreate = GetProcAddress (hmodDirectDraw,
>               "DirectDrawCreate");
>
> and in line 110, you the call the function.
>
>       ddrval = (fpDirectDrawCreate*)(NULL, &lpdd, NULL);
>
> I replace this call with
>
>       ddrval = DirectDrawCreate(NULL, &lpdd, NULL);

Oops, I forgot all about that.

Unfortunately, it has to be done via GetProcAddress because the DLL
containing DirectDrawCreate may not exist on a machine, which would cause
XWin.exe not to run at all, rather than for it to run with the GDI engine.

I basically implemented the process described in the MSDN Library and
Platform SDK about how to check that DirectDraw is present.  I'm not sure
that there is any other way to do this.

Harold


From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Feature request: clipboard transfer
In-Reply-To: <200201290839.g0T8d4023540@jeeves.brpj.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20020129114822.44764.qmail@web20804.mail.yahoo.com>

http://xfree.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/


--- Nigel Hathaway  wrote:
> It would be good if the X clipboard and the Windows clipboard could be
> linked so that you can cut-and-paste between X apps and Windows apps (and 
> vice versa).
> 
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From edi@serbski-institut.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 work with Japanese characters?
In-Reply-To: <20020327171824.GA27219@redhat.com>
References: <20020326194417.GD10851@redhat.com>
	<20020327.081453.74732114.edi@serbski-institut.de>
	<20020327171824.GA27219@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20020328.082401.74736919.edi@serbski-institut.de>

> 
> Because I wouldn't know where to start.  This was just an idle question
> for anyone who'd done this.
> 
> AFAICT, the applications that you have mentioned must all be built by
> yourself or acquired elsewhere rather than parts of the standard
> Cygwin/XFree86 package.

Hmm, I'm not running them on the Cygwin machine. I use cygwin/XFree86 to
connect to a linux box. 

Cheers

Edi


From rmedina@ivic.ve  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rmedina@ivic.ve (Rodrigo Medina)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Child process assigned to wrong parent in xinit
Message-ID: <200201110010.AAA04508@pion.ivic.ve>


Hello,
There is a bug in the control of processes of Cygwin. As I found it while
installing XFree86 I am sending this report to both mail lists.

My system is a Window 95-B with DirectX, CYGWIN_95-4.0, XFree86-4.1.0


I have put in ~/ a shell script .xinitrc for running xninit. The file
is a modification of the one that is provided in /etc/X11/xinit/ in the XFree
distribution.

The end of the shell script is like this

	...
	...
	# start some nice programs

	xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 &
	xterm -geometry 80x40+10+51 &
	xterm -geometry 80x20+250+100 &
	xman -geometry 100x76+1+1 -pagesize 600x400+1+1 &
	exec twm

  After running the xinit command, the resulting Xwindow desk is VARIABLE.
Some times I get 2 xterm windows, some times 1 xterm window and in one case I
even got none. When there are 2 xterm windows some times everything is OK, but
some cases only one of the xterm windows has the bash shell. Some times the bash
shell that apears is the one that corresponds to the other xterm! This
can be deduced because it inherits the wrong number of lines, as it can be verified
by running vi. When this happens if one runs exit the xterm window does not
disappear,and if one exits from the twm menu, action that normally ends the Xwindow
window, twm terminates but the Xwindow desk does not. After closing the Xwindow
the hangging bash still appears in the ps command output with an S in front.
  It seems to me that there is a big problem with the control of processes of
cygwin, including the assignment of a child process to the wrong parent.

I hope that this paternity problem could be solved soon.

Rodrigo Medina
Centro de F??sica
rmedina@ivic.ve


From Patrick@JGSullivan.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Patrick@JGSullivan.com (Patrick Jaromin)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP to Solaris Hangs on specific W2k systems, not all
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020208093013.029ae868@mail01.jgsullivan.com>

I'm posting this to the newsgroup after what I believe was an exhaustive search
of the archives...my apologies if I've missed a previously posted solution.

I've got 3 W2k systems attempting to connect to a couple Solaris 8 boxes.
One system connected immediately, without any fuss using the basic:
XWin.exe -query  -from 

When I attempt this with the other two, the program hangs shortly after
displaying the black screen and hourglass cursor. Only right-click-close
or task manager will kill the app.

After reading a few posts and the FAQ (on Sun's lack of 24-bit color depth 
support),
I noticed that the two that didn't work have video cards that only support 
8, 16 and 24 bit color depth
-- while the working system supported and was set to 32 bit.

Changing the other two systems to 16 or 8 bit didn't help....same hang.

Replacing the video card on one with an NVidia with 32-bit support didn't 
work either...same hang.

I also attempted the -fp parameter even though it didn't appear to be a 
font issue.

The logs I'm familiar with (through previous postings) don't seem to 
provide much information...and
look nearly identical in both the working and hanging case...with, of 
course the major exception that
the log stops after the hang while the working system logs additional info.


The XWin.log file looks like this: (with the -audit option)

ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1280 h 1024
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits 
per pixel
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 996 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found LEFT auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - FwinCloseScreenShadowDDNL () - Freeing screen resources
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - Not changing video mode
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 5120
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 32
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winCloseScreenShadowDDNL () - Freeing screen resources
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - Not changing video mode
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 5120
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 32
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 disconnected
AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 connected from IP 
192.168.2.27 port 34622
   Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: 58
AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 disconnected
AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 connected from IP 
192.168.2.27 port 34623
   Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: 58
AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 disconnected
AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 connected from IP 
192.168.2.27 port 34624
   Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: 58
AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 disconnected
AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 connected from IP 
192.168.2.27 port 34625
   Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: 58
AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 disconnected
AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 connected from IP 
192.168.2.27 port 34626
   Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: 58
AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 disconnected
AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:17 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 connected from IP 
192.168.2.27 port 34627
   Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: 58


and /var/dt/Xerrors looks the same (until the hang) for the working machine 
and the ones
that don't:

X Error of failed request:  86
   Major opcode of failed request:  51 (X_SetFontPath)
   Serial number of failed request:  10
   Current serial number in output stream:  12
X Error of failed request:  86
   Major opcode of failed request:  51 (X_SetFontPath)
   Serial number of failed request:  10
   Current serial number in output stream:  12
X Error of failed request:  86
   Major opcode of failed request:  51 (X_SetFontPath)
   Serial number of failed request:  10
   Current serial number in output stream:  12
X Error of failed request:  86
   Major opcode of failed request:  51 (X_SetFontPath)
   Serial number of failed request:  10
   Current serial number in output stream:  12
X Error of failed request:  86
   Major opcode of failed request:  51 (X_SetFontPath)
   Serial number of failed request:  10
   Current serial number in output stream:  12



Is there anything else I can try? Did I miss something or are there other 
logs to check?

Thank you.

- Patrick




From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (James Tetazoo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Some Questions
Message-ID: 

>From: Rodrigo Medina 
>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>Subject: Some Questions
>Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 16:28:09 -0400 (GMT-0400)

[snip]

>4) Most of the times the Cygwin+XFree SERVER fails to process some
>particular actions related to the mouse buttons. I have seen this in
>in xterm, where the CTRL-MouseButton menus usually do not appear (the
>bell rings). Also in ghostview there are some menu buttons (File, etc..)
>that usually do not function. I say usually because occasionally they do
>function correctly. I have no idea of when or why this happens. I do
>know that the problem is due to the server and not to the client
>programs because: i) the same programs behave correctly using the
>commertial X-WinPro server running locally, ii) a xterm, that I know is
>fine, running remotely from a SunOS machine presents the same problem.
>   Have other people observed similar behavior, or it is happening only to 
>me?
>   Has anybody any idea of what is going on?


Check if NumLock or CapsLock (or some other control key) is on.  I've seen 
that screw up the behavior of the mouse clicks.


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Start Problem
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-cannot-open-displ
ay

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Piyush Kumar
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:45 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Start Problem
>
>
>
> I'm getting the same problem as the mail stated below,
> Anyone has ideas how to solve it??
>
> =====================================================
> $ ./startxwin.bat
> startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows NT/2000
> xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0
> twm:  unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0.0"
> xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0
> xsetroot:  unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0'
> =====================================================
>
> Other startup scripts too fail, giving one or the other
> similar result,
>
> Thanks,
> --Piyush
>
> hi,
>
> I just install the latest versions of cygwin and XFree86.
> I use a medion notebook with XP Window.
>
> I meet a problem to start the server X.
>
> -> If I try "sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh" the error message is :
>
> xsetroot : unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0'
> twm : unable to open display "127.0.0.1:0.0"
>
> -> If I try "startx" the error message is now :
>
> xinit : Connection refused (errno 111) : unavble to connect to X server
> xinit : no such process (errno 3) : Server error
>
>
> I find some thing about the first message in the FAQ but this does not
> help me.
>
> Thanks you for your help and your proposals
>
> mb
>
>


From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: missing telnet, solution
In-Reply-To: 
References: <002401c1d1c1$6c49e540$640aa8c0@topdog> 
Message-ID: <20020322203721.GM25487@redhat.com>

On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 02:10:32PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
>You are referring to the process of "installing that which you wish to use".
>I don't see any problem here.

Ditto.

>I can't update the User's Guide to say "install inetutils and ssh" because
>Cygwin is always changes its mind about which packages to include in the
>default installation (they dropped bzip2 awhile back) and I don't have the
>time to follow their changes and continue to make updates accordingly.
>Also, the user interface to the Cygwin installer keeps changing, so I don't
>want to have to rewrite the instructions every time that happens.

I think the change you're referring to was that we added, at the request
of many users, a minimal install.  It's based on the debian "base"
category, which does not include bzip2.  The default installation is a
really basic one and it's looking like we need to change that.

Anyway, I'll try to keep in this in mind if we change something in the
future that impacts Cygwin/XFree86.  It never occurred to me that this
would be an issue.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: internet browser
In-Reply-To: <20020215095944.45260.qmail@iname.com>
Message-ID: 

Internet Explorer.

Most people don't use a browser with Cygwin/XFree86 because a good one
hasn't been ported yet.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Lin
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 5:00 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: internet browser
>
>
> What internet browsers do people use with cygwin-xfree?
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From ooedoo@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ooedoo@yahoo.com (Ed Conrad)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: can my X-WIN 32 be causing my server shutdown prob?
Message-ID: <20020328044806.83970.qmail@web20110.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I removed 4.2.0 and installed 4.1.0 and I still have
the same problems.  I have X-WIN 32 installed on my
comp and it occurred to me that this could be causing
some conflict.  

Anyone got an idea?

TIA

Ed

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From philburk@softsynth.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: philburk@softsynth.com (Phil Burk)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: missing telnet, solution
References: 
Message-ID: <00fa01c1d1d8$c04764d0$640aa8c0@topdog>

Hello Harold,

> I will perhaps add a note that extra Cygwin packages may be selected and
> installed by the user.  That should at least get people to look at the
list
> of packages that they might want.

Once I realized that telnet was missing, I knew I had to go get it. But I
scoured the Cygwin FAQs and other resoures looking for info on how to
download packages and couldn't find it. I found a list of packages but no
links telling where to get them. There are detailed instruction on how to
develop and contribute new packages, but not on how to download existing
packages. Imagine that you do not know how and try to find that info on the
Gygwin site.

I finally figured out that SETUP.EXE not only installs Cygwin, but it is
also used when adding new packages!!!!!!! This is only obvious in hindsight.
It is an unusual procedure and trying it really did not occur to me until I
saw a vague mention in a Cygwin forum.

Maybe on the Gygwin site, here:
   http://cygwin.com/packages/
there could be a short message:

"You can download and install these packages by running the SETUP.EXE
program that you used to install Cygwin and selecting the desired package."

I'm really just trying to be helpful, here. This simple step of re-running
SETUP.EXE was not obvious to me and I am an experienced system programmer.

THANKS!
Phil



From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: KDE under cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <20020307213452.GA16711@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <001601c1c676$036696a0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>

> >>And this is the wrong mailing list for discussing KDE.
> >
> >There is always at least one isn't there?  I
> suppose this is not the
> >place to ask questions related to cygwin?
>
> We tried to make this very clear here:
> http://cygwin.com/lists.html
>
Hi Chris,

isn't it possible to implement an automatic redirection (and
generating an automatic answer to the sender) identified by
specific keywords in the subject line ?

Regards
Ralf





From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Log filling up
In-Reply-To: <20020226173530.50628.qmail@web20806.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Brian Genisio wrote:

> You could always redirect the log file to /dev/null ...

But this can only be done by patching the binary. Replace "/tmp/XWin.log"
"/dev/null\0log" (the \0 marks the character with ascii code 0.

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	ago
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From ooedoo@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ooedoo@yahoo.com (Ed Conrad)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X connection to 127....broken
Message-ID: <20020326012452.46680.qmail@web20101.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I am assuming this is the list for config
troubleshooting.  

Here is my prob.

I just dl and installed cygwin and xfree today but I
can't get it to run though.
The sceen just pops up for about a second and then it
vanishes.

The startxwin window says:

"X connection to 127.0.0.1:0.0 broken (explicit kill
or server shutdown)"  

The log file says this:

"ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 800 h 600
ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 5 i: 1"

When I try to run XWin, it gives an error message:
"A required .DLL file, CYGWIN1,DLL was not found."

I got all my stuff from:
http://archive.progeny.com/cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0/

TIA

Ed



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From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DirectDrawCreate
References: 
Message-ID: <09bf01c1b4cd$d1488250$0200a8c0@lifelesswks>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 


> > Have a look at autoload.c in the cygwin sources or the setup.exe
> > sources.
> >
> > It provides a symbol to link to for the linker, but doesn't resolve
the
> > .dll until runtime.
>
> Well, that's okay too, but w32api shouldn't be doing things that break
> perfectly legitimate calls to Win32 functions.

Of course. Autoload.c uses w32api too, so if w32api gets broken, so will
setup.exe and cygwin1.dll :}.

Rob


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: "X connection to 127.0. ...explicit kill..."
In-Reply-To: <20020326014057.65843.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20020326014057.65843.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

| If I try to run XWin.exe, it says that it cant find
| cygwin1.dll.

You need to install cygwin1.dll, check the installation instructions
how to install cygwin.

        /Andy

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From pommiera@club-internet.fr  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: pommiera@club-internet.fr (pommier)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Problems with BUNZIP2 and CYGWIN for install XFREE86
Message-ID: <3C38C1F1.21AD0705@club-internet.fr>

I downloaded CYGWIN and XFREE86 but I had some problems when I want to
launch the instruction BUNZIP2 extract for the XFREE86 archive (E.G
bunzip2 extract.exe.bz2) . This instruction does'nt work (command not
found)

I thing that instruction does'nt  exist into the basic distrib CYGWIN.
Also, I dont have this software.

Cant you help me to find BUNZIP2 for CYGWIN into the net for downloading
?

What is the download site for BUNZIP2 ?

Thank
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Create icons and project logo
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Nupur,

I've posted your graphics online for the Cygwin/XFree86 project to review:
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/logo-ideas/saurabh-20020221-0131-cxlogo1.j
pg
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/logo-ideas/saurabh-20020221-0131-cxlogo3.j
pg
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/logo-ideas/saurabh-20020221-0131-cxlogo4.j
pg
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/logo-ideas/saurabh-20020221-0131-logo6.jpg
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/logo-ideas/saurabh-20020221-0131-logo7.jpg
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/logo-ideas/saurabh-20020221-0131-logo8.jpg

By the way, cxlogo3.jpg looks like it is using clipart... do you own the
rights to that clipart, or am I mistaken?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nupur Saurabh [mailto:saunup@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:41 AM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Subject: Re: Create icons and project logo
>
>
> hi,
>
> Attached are some logos  in jpeg format.
>
> The files cx star have  'C' for the cygwin.
> cxlogo1.jpg -- uses the 'C' as in cygwin logo.
>
> cxlogo3.jpg --  'C' is in shadow.
>
> cxlogo4.jpg --'C'is on X.
>
> rest don't have 'C'.
>
> thanks
> nupur
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harold Hunt" 
> To: "josh" ; 
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 3:41 PM
> Subject: RE: Create icons and project logo
>
>
> > The task is still open.  We need the standard set of Windows
> icons for the
> > project executable and we need a project logo.
> >
> > See the current project web site for some ideas:
> > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/
> >
> > You may wish to incorporate some themes from the Cygwin icon:
> > http://www.cygwin.com/
> >
> > Let me know what you come up with.
> >
> > Harold
> >
> >
>


From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: briangenisio@yahoo.com
In-Reply-To: <20020111170018.87903.qmail@web13504.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020111171357.80859.qmail@web20802.mail.yahoo.com>

Yeah, with 100ms - 350ms, I know for a fact that Netscape is very slow.  I am
not sure if you know much about the X protocol, but a simple X program, such as
xterm will send about 20 protocol messages out... Many of the X protocol
messages are roundtrip and serial... Because of this, if you have (pseudo)code
that does something like this :

OpenDisplay
CreateWindow
GetGC
GetFont

Then you have AT_LEAST 4 round trip messages, assuming 1 message per call.
(This is very often not the case)  With low latency, this is not a problem, but
let's assume a latency of 250ms.  4 round-trip messages will take 1 second!!! 
This is huge.

Netscape, unfortuanately, is nowhere near a simple application.  I have done
some playing (using xmond), and found that Netscape makes tens of thousands of
X protocol calls.  Of course, not all of them are round trip, but the ones that
are will hurt :(  You can do the math... It could take close to forever for
Netscape to come up... and when it does, it will be so painful to use, that it
wont be worth it.

You might find a more efficient browser... lnyx, (like you mentioned) would be
one.  You might also try dillo (dillo.sourceforge.net)  It is a very simple
browser that will be much more effiecient to use over a latency such as that.  

If dillo is not enough for you (It might not be), I know that Opera (Opera.com)
boasts to be the fastest Web browser on earth... so we would hope that it has
some more streamlined X communication, but I cant say for sure.

Good luck,
Brian


--- Raber Chris  wrote:
> > 
> > Yes, but did you try it anyways?  Most Linux
> distributions 
> > set XDMCP up as
> > default when it sets up X.  I would simply try it,
> before you 
> > worry about
> > setting it up on the Linux system.
> 
> I did try it. I got "too many retransmissions" errors.
> 
> > 
> > Another thought about the Netscape problem you are
> having... 
> > How much time are
> > you giving it to come up?  How far away is the
> remote 
> > machine?  (What is the
> > ping rate?)  If you have a ping rate of 70ms or so,
> Netscape 
> > will be dog slow,
> > and could take as long as 10 minutes to come up....
> X 
> > programs dont work too
> > well over networks with latency (ie cable modem).
> 
> This is probably the issue. My ping latency is between
> 100 and 350 ms! I am over DSL and through a VPN to the
> server I am connecting too.
> 
> Sounds like my expectations were not in line with
> reality on this. Now where is that lynx browser... ;-)
> 
> > 
> > The other thought, if you think your window manager
> is the 
> > problem... kill off
> > twm, and run a window manager from the remote
> machine, and 
> > try it again.
> > 
> > Brian
> 
> 
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From jamesl@bestweb.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jamesl@bestweb.net (James E. LaBarre)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Lesstiff link
Message-ID: <3C7E597E.7050207@bestweb.net>

FYI: you may want to change your link for the Cygwin binaries to point 
directly to the Sourceforge site, as it is not obvious where to get it 
from on the lesstif main site (it's a brief message at the bottom of 
their downloads page).

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=8596


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: MI keyboard input - automatic repeat?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020219213248.B2658@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

Harold,

Try disabling the BlockHandler, and leave input processing to the 
WakeupHandler. (you should be able to remove the blockhandler code
actually - it may be entering two strokes into the input queue).

Alan.

On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 04:05:28PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
> In regards to some users noticing duplicate key strokes upon switching into
> and out of Cygwin/XFree86...
> 
> 
> Do the MI keyboard input routines have some sort of automatic key repeat
> feature?
> 
> I have noticed the following behavior with the Native GDI engine, which is
> extremely slow:
> 
> 1) Open an xterm
> 
> 2) Run 'xdpyinfo' to generate a few screens of output
> 
> 3) Scroll xterm to the top of the output
> 
> 4) Type 'exit' in the xterm.  This causes xterm to automatically scroll back
> to the user input line, which takes a few seconds.
> 
> 5) Notice that the xterm command line is 'eexit' not 'exit'.
> 
> 6) This isn't a problem with xterm echoing part of the command late...
> because if you press enter you get an error about 'eexit' not being found.
> 
> 7) A similar sort of behavior can be exhibited by typing 'ls' followed by
> enter.  In this case it takes 'ls' a second or two to do the directory
> listing; when the listing is finished the xterm display two command lines
> instead of just one (an extra enter causes the first one to execute nothing,
> so a second one then appears).
> 
> 
> I believe that this behavior is due to the MI keyboard input code looking at
> the lag between the 'e' and 'enter' presses and releases, then it probably
> is dividing by some sort of key-repeat interval to determine how many key
> strokes to actually send.  This would also cause the extra keystrokes on
> switching into and out of Cygwin/XFree86 that some people have noticed.
> 
> Perhaps this functionality isn't part of MI at all... rather, it may be part
> of a lower level that reads the input event queue that MI generates.
> 
> The VNC project's method of handling user input is starting to make a lot
> more sense:
> 
> 1) Ignore WM_KEYUP/WM_SYSKEYUP messages.
> 
> 2) In WM_KEYDOWN/WM_SYSKEYDOWN messages - discard mode key presses (Alt,
> Ctrl, AltGr, Shift, etc.)
> 
> 3) In WM_KEYDOWN/WM_SYSKEYDOWN messages - read the mode key states, send
> down events for each pressed mode key, send the actual key down event, send
> the actual key up event, then send key up events for each of the pressed
> mode keys.
> 
> 
> That system prevents the delay between processing the key down and key up
> events from causing duplicate key presses when the server is very busy
> between the key being pushed and the key being released.
> 
> 
> What I need to know is:
> 
> 1) Does this make sense to the other developers?
> 
> 2) Is there actually some mechanism in X that is causing the simulated key
> repeats?
> 
> 3) Is there a way to disable any such mechanism in [3]?
> 
> 4) Is someone willing to rework the keyboard input code to more closely
> follow the VNC input code?
> 
> 
> That's all for now,
> 
> Harold


From staf.verhaegen@imec.be  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: staf.verhaegen@imec.be (Staf Verhaegen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under v4.2.0?
References: 
Message-ID: <3C9761CC.9276C7B4@imec.be>

Victor Atkinson wrote:
> 
> 
> My question is:  Is it possible to create multiple simultaneous sessions,
> which are are resident in separate windows on my Win2K display, yet each
> connected to a different Linux host?  As it stands now, I must use a single
> server window, with which I can only sequentially log into one Linux machine
> at a time.  (I can get a second window up, by launching a second server with
> XWin, but it appears either inactive, or at best I can get clients to
> display, but not on the session that I want in any predictable fashion.)

Use a different screen number for every session
% XWin -screen 0 width height -query host1 &
% XWin -screen 1 width height -query host2 &
% ...


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XWin terminates immediately under W2K
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20020206145907.06aafa60@pop>
Message-ID: 

Julian,

> Now when I run Xinstall, it complains that it can't create symlinks. Aagh.
> Maybe I shouldn't have made all the mount points binary.

Your mount points should be binary... but I don't know what is causing your
error.  Guess you'll have to investigate this one on your own, unless
someone else knows the solution.

Harold


From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: IceWM?
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683341@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>



> > maybe your IceWM failed to start.  Try starting it from 
> xterm window.  
> > It should show you errors if it is crashing.
> 
> I see icewm running in the Windows task manager -

you can kill it in Taskmanager

> could it 
> still have crashed in that case? Also, do you mean to run 
> icewm from the odd-looked xterm inside of XFree86?

yes! without a window manager, xterm would be odd-looking.

> 
> Thanks,
> Sean
> 
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Sean LeBlanc [mailto:sean@nutros.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 11:15 AM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: IceWM?
> > >
> > >
> > > Earlier I asked about window managers - I'm trying to get IceWM 
> > > working for the time being. I downloaded binary edition, changed 
> > > startxwin.sh according to directions, and run startxwin.sh. The 
> > > server comes up with a green background, and an xterm...but the 
> > > xterm doesn't look right (no edges or title bar), and there is 
> > > nothing else on the screen.  Any ideas on what I'm doing 
> wrong here?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Sean
> > >
> >
> 


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ?
In-Reply-To: <20020129171808.92838.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

Brian,

No problem.  Hey, the funny thing is that I didn't know what OS he was
running either.  As I was writing, I glanced back to his original message
and saw W2K... kinda weird that we both missed that on our first read.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Brian Genisio
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:18 PM
> To: Harold Hunt; Jean-Marc Paulin; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ?
>
>
> Appologies... This is something I knew, but worded my statement
> wrong.  At the
> time, I did not know the OS, or how he was starting the X server
> (could have
> been command line)... My statement was more to explain that the -engine 1
> option should not have been used.... One of those "I knew what I meant"
> statements...
>
> Anyways,  sorry... not good at getting my point across.
> B
>
>
> --- Harold Hunt  wrote:
> > Brian,
> >
> > > Make sure you are running engine 4.
> >
> > That is somewhat misleading advice.  There is code in the server that
> > detects which engines types are supported.  Engine 4, the best
> performing
> > engine, is used whenever it is supported.  Thus, to tell the user to use
> > engine 4 is likely to just send them on a wild goose chase.
> Jean-Marc has
> > Windows 2000 which means that DirectX 4+ is installed, so XWin
> will always
> > use engine 4 on his system.
> >
> > Harold
> >
>
>
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From plymale@bright.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: plymale@bright.net (George D. Plymale)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Hardware Accelerated OpenGL
Message-ID: 

I recently read a note that someone is interested in Hardware Accelerated
OpenGL with Cygwin/Xfree86.  I, too, am very interested in such a project,
but would be unable to write the necessary code to interface the windows
hardware accelerated OpenGL libs and Xfree86.  I am stuck with Windows on
one of my development machines at the moment due to some motherboard
hardware issues and am thus resigned to search for a method to accelerate
some OpenGL work I am planning on doing.  I want to stick with XF86 though
due to my desire to keep this project based in the *nix world (as my entire
project will eventually migrate to either FreeBSD or Linux).

Is there currently a hardware acceleration project for cygwin, and if so,
what is the status?

Thanks much!


From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: proper version of dll
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268332C@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>

Wrong mailing list,  I forwarded your message to cygwin mailing list

> 
> Hello Sir,
> 
> I am finding problem with not having the proper version of 
> cygwin.dll. 
> If I install the cygwi, from the "www.cygwin.com", I get the 
> file cygwin1.dll and not cygwin.dll. My application needs cygwin.dll
> 
> This is the error I get when I run my application under bash.
> 
> Z:\1200\tools\ekmdc_pc.exe: *** cygwin DLL and APP are out of 
> sync -- DLL version mismatch 17 < 19
> 
> Can you please tell me how can I get the proper version of 
> the cygwin.dll required for my application.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> With regards
> 
> Nagaraj Rao S.D.
> GEMS-IT Engineering
> Wipro GE Medical Systems Ltd.
> #4, Kadugodi Industrial Area
> Sadaramangala
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Tzafrir,

> A simpler suggestion:
>
> telnet to port 6000 of the windows machine from the linux server.
>
> A connection should be established (whatever the X configuration is). If
> no connection is established then something is wrong.

That's not a simpler test... it won't give any new information.

We already know that something is wrong, the issue now is to find out what
is causing the problem.

If you noticed, he said that he _sometimes_ gets an XDM login screen.  The
test you describe will probably _sometimes_ work, which does nothing to tell
us where the problem is coming from.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Tzafrir Cohen
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 3:03 PM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: Darryl Wagoner; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
>
>
> On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
>
> > Darryl,
> >
> > If at all possible, as a diagnostic test you should connect only the two
> > computers in question together on a seperate test network,
> making sure to
>
> [snip]
>
> A simpler suggestion:
>
> telnet to port 6000 of the windows machine from the linux server.
>
> A connection should be established (whatever the X configuration is). If
> no connection is established then something is wrong.
>
> To see that a connection is established with the standard unix tellnet:
>
> $ telent windows_machine 6000
> Trying ...
> Connected to  Escape character is '^]'.
>
> At this point a connection was established.
>
> --
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From nigel_phillips@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nigel_phillips@hotmail.com (Egon Phillips)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin-xfree configuration problem, 0.0.0.0
Message-ID: 

Hi,

Does anyone know if there is a way to prevent XWin from broadcasting to 
0.0.0.0 when it starts up?  I would like it to use 127.0.0.1, or 10.0.0.0 is 
either of these possible?



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From rick@seidenmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rick@seidenmail.com (Rick Seiden)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Linux Mandrake and Windows
Message-ID: <001701c1b0b8$df5f7290$0401a8c0@RICSEIIBM>

Hello all,

I'm new to the list, and I'm sorry if this has been answered before.  I =
looked, but couldn't find it.

I have Linux Mandrake running on one machine, with a dual boot to =
Windows 2000.  I have a Windows 98 machine running cygwin/xfree.  When I =
boot to Linux and log in (through X 3.6), I open up a terminal and type=20

xhost +=20

to allow all connections.  Then I go to cygwin/xfree on the Win98 =
machine, and type into the bash window=20

export DISPLAY=3D192.168.1.3:0=20

(the ip of the Linux machine).  Then I try to execute=20

xclock

on the Win98 machine, and it says connection refused.

Reverse the process: =20

xhost +=20

in the cygwin/xfree environment, and=20

export DISPLAY=3D192.168.1.1:0=20

in the Linux environment. =20

xclock=20

in Linux, and I get connection refused.

Then I boot into W2k, and do the same thing all over again, except =
everything is in cygwin/xfree.  Now it works just fine.

What am I doing wrong while under Linux? Is it because Linux is using =
X3.6, and cygwin/xfree is using 4.2.0?

Thanks
Rick Seiden
rick@seidenmail.com


From bozackt1@ridgecrest.ca.us  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: bozackt1@ridgecrest.ca.us (Tom Bozack)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: strange behavior
Message-ID: <3C6620DA.6050107@ridgecrest.ca.us>

Something really strange happens when I do a xhost + command.  The X 
display is immediately taken over by the xdmcp login window to my 
Mandrake Linux machine on the LAN.  I can then login to the KDE and do 
anything I can on the local display.  In a way this is good news since 
I've been trying to get xdmcp to work using "XWin.exe -query 
remote_host_ip -from local_host_ip" with only partial success.

This leads me to beleive there's a bug in XWin when using xdmcp realting 
to client access to the server.  xhost + "fixes" the access problem, but 
causes the strange result of displaying the remote login screen.

Or am I just missing something basic?  Could someone let me know if 
there is a logical explanation for this.

Thanks,
Tom


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Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Desperate to sell my house
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From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: (patch seq: 5151) config file support for cygwin port
In-Reply-To: <20020121002052.E2502@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Alan Hourihane wrote:

> Hi Alexander,
> 
> Thanks for the patch. Is there any chance of bouncing this off the
> cygwin-xfree list first to get some feedback before we commit.... ?
> 

of course, I announced a binary with this patch about one month ago and 
got no negative response. (Actually I got no response, but the binary was
downloaded about 30 times in that month)       

bye
    ago

> > Hi, 
> > 
> > The attached patch allows the cygwin port of the xserver to use the 
> > XF86Config configfile. The support for the configfile is not complete
> > but the keyboard and files section (the most needed ones for the cygwin 
> > port) are fully supported. 
> > 
> > The patch uses the parser from hw/xfree86/parser and the two 4 files
> > implement functions similar to those from the xfree86 xserver.
> >     
> > Changelog for programs/Xserver:
> > 2002-01-20  Alexander Gottwald  
> > 
> >     *Imakefile: Add hw/xfree86/parser to SUBDIRS for cygwin port
> >     
> > Changelog for programs/Xserver/hw/xwin
> > 2002-01-20  Alexander Gottwald  
> > 
> >     *Imakefile: Add winconfig.c and winmsg.c to SOURCES.
> >     Add winconfig.o and winmsg.o to OBJS.
> >     *InitOutput.c: include winconfig.h.
> >     Add macros for commandline argument processing.
> >     Add commandline options -logfile, -xf86config and -keyboard.
> >     Add call winReadConfigfile.
> >     *winkeybd.c: include winconfig.h and XKBsrv.h.
> >     Use configuration from configfile.
> >     *winconfig.c, winconfig.h: Handling of option values from configfile.
> >     *winmsg.c, winmsg.h: Error and log output functions.
> > 

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From nigel_phillips@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nigel_phillips@hotmail.com (Egon Phillips)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Gnome Win 2000 Cygwin-XFRee86
Message-ID: 

Hi,

I'm looking for a gnome, cygwin-XFree86 Win2k (Windows 2000) binary, that 
will run ontop of cygwin.  I noticed discussion in the mailing list, but was 
wondering if anyone has a working version gnome, on  cygwin-xfree86, or 
native Win 2k gnome? I must have missed something?


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Using XShm and cygipc
In-Reply-To: <002301c1ab9f$d6c6ff40$eb8b0ad2@gokhan>
Message-ID: 

That doesn't make any sense at all.  Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't use a web proxy.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gokhan Cil [mailto:rainbow74@mail2me.com.au]
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:13 PM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Subject: Re: Using XShm and cygipc
> 
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> 
> Sorry for excuse 
> But I just wanna ask u something 
> I can not modify the proxy settings on cygwin 
> my proxy setting s is this 'proxy.connect.com.au:8080'
> Can you tell me how can i set this proxy set on cygwin please 
> 
> 


From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DirectDrawCreate
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:

> Oops, I forgot all about that.
> 
> Unfortunately, it has to be done via GetProcAddress because the DLL
> containing DirectDrawCreate may not exist on a machine, which would cause
> XWin.exe not to run at all, rather than for it to run with the GDI engine.

So we have a bigger problem. We already link to ddraw.dll. Cygcheck reported
for the old version:

Found: .\XWin-debug.exe
.\XWin-debug.exe
  C:\WINNT\System32\DDRAW.dll
    C:\WINNT\System32\MSVCRT.dll
      C:\WINNT\System32\KERNEL32.dll
        C:\WINNT\System32\NTDLL.DLL
    C:\WINNT\System32\USER32.dll
      C:\WINNT\System32\GDI32.DLL
    C:\WINNT\System32\DCIMAN32.dll
    C:\WINNT\System32\ADVAPI32.dll
      C:\WINNT\System32\RPCRT4.DLL
  C:\WINNT\System32\SHELL32.DLL
    C:\WINNT\System32\SHLWAPI.DLL
    C:\WINNT\System32\COMCTL32.DLL
  c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll
  c:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll

But on the other hand, Even the win95a (the oldest win32 os I have around) 
had this ddraw.dll (V 4.08.00.0400) . And no one has ever reported that the 
dll was missing. 

The only difference between

    proc = GetProcAddress
    (proc*)(...)
    
and 

    proc(...) 
    
is that the second does not need the dll with the symbol on startup. And even 
if the symbol is not found in the dll, we still have the null-check and can 
(have to) skip the call to DirectDrawCreate.


> I basically implemented the process described in the MSDN Library and
> Platform SDK about how to check that DirectDraw is present.  I'm not sure
> that there is any other way to do this.

Maybe they described a procedure which was needed on win3.11.

bye
    ago
    
NW: Boys Don't Cry - the ending made me kind of upset 
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From ewu@eskimo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ewu@eskimo.com (Enoch W)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Backup X in linux
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <15410.1212.475000.480210@gargle.gargle.HOWL>


Use Linux to back it up :)

Here are the steps:

1) If you have not already done so, subscribe to a Linux mailing list.
2) Ask the Linux mailing list how to back up X in Linux.
3) If you have done the above and got no answer, a quick backup can be
   done by just renaming the X11R6 subdirectory to X11R6-old, and
   renaming any X11 subdirectory to X11-old, for example /etc/X11 --->
   /etc/X11-old

Happy New Year!


Sharmin Kabir writes:
 > Hello:
 > I have an existing X installation in linux/redhat7.1, the installer 
 > Xinstall.sh told me. Before I install it, it is strongly recommended that I 
 > backup the existing installation before proceeding. Could you pl tell me how 
 > can I backup ??? I am very new in linux.
 > 
 > Thanks
 > 
 > Sharmin
 > 
 > 
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From steve_obrien@hp.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: steve_obrien@hp.com (O'BRIEN,STEVE (HP-UnitedKingdom,ex1))
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: ORBit install
Message-ID: <72FAAE98015DD511B42600D0B747AC7F01471E18@kipling.br.itc.hp.com>

Glen Rice wrote:

> I am trying to install ORBit and I read the directions
> I found in the ported software section on the CYGWIN 
> website.  It said to install ORBit run make with skipping
> the test directory.
> How do I do this?
> Thank you,
> Glenn Rice 

I have been working on a port of Gnome to cygwin for some time now. The site
you got these instructions from (I guess
http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley/1596/en/cygwin.html) does not say
whether any of the packages pass their own test suites. In the case of ORBit
this is a serious issue because the idl compiler generated by compiling
unpatched sources is badly broken on cygwin, and so the tests do not even
build correctly. The problem is that memory alignment of multiword datatypes
on Windows does not fit the pattern expected by the ORBit source code. So,
for example, any IDL interface containing a double will be incorrectly
compiled.

I have patches for ORBit and most of the other Gnome libraries that produce
DLLs rather than static libraries, and pass their test suites.
Unfortunately, this does not guarantee that they are correct. I have just
one library left to get working, then I will be able to build a reasonable
selection of apps and use them to find any remaining bugs (and I am sure
there will be many).

The problem library in gnome-vfs, where there appears to be problems with
thread mutexes, although I really have not been able to debug this at all.

Still, the control-center and gnome-core build OK so I can get a Gnome
desktop up, even if I am getting lots of errors generated. Most of
gnome-games builds and runs OK too, so there's some reward for my efforts at
least!

I would like to make my work available to the cygwin community at large,
hopefully so that someone who understands cygwin thread management better
can get a handle on the faults with gnome-vfs. As this is just a hobby and I
get no more than a few hours a month to work on it, I would be happy to hand
over to anyone who is interested to take on proper maintenance of these
packages and can make them available on the web. Please reply to this
mailing list, *not* to me personally.

Steven O'Brien


From Nagaraj.Rao@geind.ge.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Nagaraj.Rao@geind.ge.com (Rao, Nagaraj (MED))
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: proper version of dll
Message-ID: <1C82B8CC4567D51197A600508B62C1304BD8CC@ban04xbindge.geind.ge.com>


Hello Sir,

I am finding problem with not having the proper version of cygwin.dll. 
If I install the cygwi, from the "www.cygwin.com", I get the file
cygwin1.dll and not cygwin.dll.
My application needs cygwin.dll

This is the error I get when I run my application under bash.

Z:\1200\tools\ekmdc_pc.exe: *** cygwin DLL and APP are out of sync -- DLL
version mismatch 17 < 19

Can you please tell me how can I get the proper version of the cygwin.dll
required for my application.

Thanks

With regards

Nagaraj Rao S.D.
GEMS-IT Engineering
Wipro GE Medical Systems Ltd.
#4, Kadugodi Industrial Area
Sadaramangala
Bangalore - 560 067
INDIA
Ph: +91-80-8452923 extn 1457
Fax:+91-80-8452924
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From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: adjust the number of bash windows opened
In-Reply-To: <014d01c19ec5$7f4d68d0$34396ba4@ceegs.ohiostate.edu>
References: <014d01c19ec5$7f4d68d0$34396ba4@ceegs.ohiostate.edu>
Message-ID: <20020116193744.GA28881@redhat.com>

Wrong mailing list.

Redirected to the correct mailing list.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 02:39:19PM -0500, hongxun lee wrote:
>When the command 'startx' is run, 3 bash wins are launched automatically,
>any way to customize this number?
>Thanks
>
>
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From nigel_phillips@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nigel_phillips@hotmail.com (Egon Phillips)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin-xfree configuration problems
Message-ID: 

As I remember there are a number of configuration files that need to be used 
to set up an XServer on Under SCO, Linux, IRIX, and AIX.  I image this is 
also true of cigwin-xfree.  It's been a long time.  I've looked in the man 
pages and I'm finding it a bit difficult to determine which of the following 
files are used and when.

/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
/etc/X11/server/XftConfig
/etc/X11/server/SecurityPolicy
/etc/X11/server/system.xsm
/etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess
/etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config
/etc/X11/xdm/Xresources
/etc/X11/xdm/Xservers
/etc/X11/xdm/Xsession

$HOME/.xinitrc
$HOME/.Xsession
$HOME/.Xauthority
$HOME/.*

I can't find readme's or man pages that explain how to setup each of these 
files, although I have read XWin, X(7), Xserver(1), xdm(1), xinit(1) 
manpages.  Is there any supplementary documentation that can help me.  I'm 
particulary interesetd in configuring security, and optimizing XWin 
performance.

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From aje@callcentereurope.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: aje@callcentereurope.com (Allan Jensen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 hanging at bell event
Message-ID: <5D81C0FAF388D411B9070000E22BCF960310C63A@tjalfe.callcentereurope.dk>

Hi,

I just installed the latest Cygwin and added XFree86 4.2.0 onto it on my
Win2000-Pro machine.

Cygwin version:
$ uname -a
CYGWIN_NT-5.0 MY-PC 1.3.9(0.51/3/2) 2002-01-21 12:48 i686 unknown

Cygwin works just perfect and I can start XFree86, but as soon as there's a
bell, XFree86 freezes completely. I thought it might be a problem with the
XFree86 release and downgraded it to 4.1.0 - but it had the same problem.
Bell (like CTRL+G) works just fine in bash etc. outside X. I have been
trying to silence the bell with termcap entries and with xset -b but it has
had no effect at all. As soon as there's a bell, X hangs completely.

I tried to do an strace to see what system calls were made, and I could tell
that when X hung, it hung completely. No more system calls were made from
that point on. If anyone would like a copy of the trace (_very_ long), feel
free to ask me and I'll mail it.

But have anyone else had this problem? And a solution? 

Thank you very much! 

Best regards,
-Allan Jensen


From relaxedrob@optushome.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: relaxedrob@optushome.com.au (Robert Mark Bram)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Launching Term
Message-ID: 

Howdy all!

I am one of those unfortunates that is trying to manage Rational Rose on the
same machine as cygwin-XFree.

So far I have been able to get around all problems (involving Cygwin alone)
by editing a few scripts to change environment variables to ones Cygwin
likes and I am hoping this problem can be dealt with in the same way for
XFree.

I launch XFree with the startxwin.bat with the following alterations at the
top of the script:

SET TERMCAP=\cygwin\etc\termcap
SET TERMINFO=\cygwin\lib\terminfo
set SHELL=\cygwin\bin\bash.exe
set TERM=cygwin

When I click on the new desktop and select XTERM, it comes back with an
error message:

  Could not exec /cygwin/bin/bash.exe: no such file or directory.

I tried changing the batch file's SHELL variable to this:
  set SHELL=\bin\bash.exe
and then restarted and tried launching XTERM again, only to get a similar
message:

Could not exec /bin/bash.exe: no such file or directory.

I can confirm that the file exists however:

  $ [ -f /bin/bash.exe ] && echo File exists
  $ File exists

What is going on here?

Is it the case that XFree wants to launch a different bash? (I searhced the
cygwin directory heirarchy and found only one bash.exe though.)

Is there perhaps some other variable that I have overlooked that needs
changing too?

Just in case, I have included the output below from a set command.

Secondly, I notice that an XTERM is started from startxwin.bat with the
following command:
start xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e
/usr/bin/bash
I tried changing SHELL to \usr\bin\bash as well and just got the same error
with /usr/bin/bash instead.

Any advice is appreciated!

Rob

:)
:-}
;->



!C:='C:\Documents and Settings\Robert Mark Bram\Desktop'
ALLUSERSPROFILE='C:\Documents and Settings\All Users'
APPDATA='C:\Documents and Settings\Robert Mark Bram\Application Data'
BASH=/usr/bin/bash
BASH_VERSINFO=([0]="2" [1]="05a" [2]="0" [3]="3" [4]="release"
[5]="i686-pc-cygwin")
BASH_VERSION='2.05a.0(3)-release'
CLASSPATH='.;C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.0\QTJava.zip'
COLUMNS=80
COMMONHOME='C:\Program Files\Rational\common'
COMMONPROGRAMFILES='C:\Program Files\Common Files'
COMPUTERNAME=DIJONG
COMSPEC='C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe'
CYGWIN_ROOT='\cygwin'
DIRSTACK=()
DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
EUID=1000
GROUPS=()
HISTFILE=/cygdrive/c/.bash_history
HISTFILESIZE=500
HISTSIZE=500
HOME=/cygdrive/c
HOMEDRIVE=C:
HOMEPATH='\'
HOSTNAME=DIJONG
HOSTTYPE=i686
IFS=$' \t\n'
LINES=24
LOGNAME='Robert Mark Bram'
LOGONSERVER='\\DIJONG'
MACHTYPE=i686-pc-cygwin
MAILCHECK=60
NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS=1
NUTCROOT='C:\PROGRA~1\RATIONAL\RATION~1\NUTCROOT'
NUTSUFFIX=1
NUT_SUFFIXED_SEARCHING=1
OLDPWD='/cygdrive/c/Documents and Settings/Robert Mark Bram/Desktop'
OPTERR=1
OPTIND=1
OS=Windows_NT
OS2LIBPATH='C:\WINNT\system32\os2\dll;'
OSTYPE=cygwin
PATH='.:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/RATIONAL/RATION~1/NUTCR
OOT/bin:/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/RATIONAL/RATION~1/NUTCROOT/bin/x11:/cygdrive/c/
PROGRA~1/RATIONAL/RATION~1/NUTCROOT/mksnt:.:/cygdrive/c/Java/jdk1.4.0/bin:/c
ygdrive/c/WINNT/system32:/cygdrive/c/WINNT:/cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/Wbem:/
cygdrive/c/PROGRA~1/ULTRAE~1:/cygdrive/c/Program
Files/Rational/common:/cygdrive/c/Program
Files/Rational/ClearQuest:/cygdrive/c/Program
Files/Rational/Rose/TopLink/:/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Rational/Rational
Test:/cygdrive/c/Java/JBuilder6/bin:/usr/bin'
PATHEXT='.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH'
PIPESTATUS=([0]="0" [1]="127")
PPID=1012
PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE=x86
PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER='x86 Family 6 Model 7 Stepping 2, GenuineIntel'
PROCESSOR_LEVEL=6
PROCESSOR_REVISION=0702
PROGRAMFILES='C:\Program Files'
PROMPT='$P$G'
PS1='\s-\v\$ '
PS2='> '
PS4='+ '
PWD=/
QTJAVA='"C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.0\QTJava.zip"'
RATL_RTHOME='C:\Program Files\Rational\Rational Test'
ROOTDIR='C:\PROGRA~1\RATIONAL\RATION~1\NUTCROOT'
RQAHOME='C:\Program Files\Rational\Rational Test\QualityArchitect'
SHELL='\bin\bash.exe'
SHELLOPTS=braceexpand:hashall:histexpand:monitor:history:interactive-comment
s:emacs
SHLVL=1
SYSTEMDRIVE=C:
SYSTEMROOT='C:\WINNT'
TEMP=/cygdrive/c/DOCUME~1/ROBERT~1/LOCALS~1/Temp
TERM=vt102
TERMCAP='\cygwin\etc\termcap'
TERMINFO='\cygwin\lib\terminfo'
TMP=/cygdrive/c/DOCUME~1/ROBERT~1/LOCALS~1/Temp
TMPDIR=/cygdrive/c/DOCUME~1/ROBERT~1/LOCALS~1/Temp
UID=1000
USERDOMAIN=DIJONG
USERNAME='Robert Mark Bram'
USERPROFILE='C:\Documents and Settings\Robert Mark Bram'
WINDIR='C:\WINNT'
WINDOWID=4194318
_=


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From Darko.Palic@gmx.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Darko.Palic@gmx.de (Darko.Palic@gmx.de)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XWin w2k xdmcp-query - no valid address
References: 
Message-ID: <6048.1012987856@www39.gmx.net>

Hi,

I have not watched the previous posts, but have you tried to start the
XServer XFree without XDMCP? And then to connect via telnet + export Display to
your host? (or even easier with "ssh -X") Is this possible? 

regards,
Darko

> Hi,
> 
> I know this has been around for some time, couldn't find a solution yet
> ,
> though.
> 
> My Machine: W2K, running most cygwin installed via setup.exe with
> setting:current on Feb 5th 02.
> And yes: I use TokenRing. But: If there are problems with Token Ring - 
> why
> are there udp-packets (at
> least a few - see below) exchanged between server and client ?
> 
> Without XDMCP (like: ssh to host and startkde there) works fine.
> 
> I start XWin like this:
> 
> XWin.exe -query  -from  -ac
> 
> /tmp/XWin says:
> 
> ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
> winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
> _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bit
> s
> per pixel
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
>  0 b
> 742 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 4072
> winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 
> d 32
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 32
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> error opening security policy file
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy       (I moved that one, just
>  in
> case, didn't work before either)
> 
> Fatal server error:
> XDMCP fatal error: Session declined No valid address
> 
> Ok. Now I just read about a debug-Version auf XWin, which i promptly
> downloaded and tried:
> 
> /usr/X11R6/bin/debug>./XWin-debug.exe -query  -from  -ac
> InitConnectionLimits: MaxClients = 255
> ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
> winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
> _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> Xserver: DefineSelf(): ifname = lo, addr = 127.0.0.1
> Xserver: DefineSelf(): ifname = eth0, addr = 0.0.0.0
> Xserver: DefineSelf(): ifname = eth0, baddr = 255.255.255.255
> Xserver: DefineSelf(): ifname = eth1, addr = 0.0.0.0
> get_xdmcp_sock: binding xdmcp socket to addr :
> 0
> (EE) Unable to locate/open config file
> Error reading config file
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000000f
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bit
> s
> per pixel
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
>  0 b
> 742 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 4072
> winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 
> d 32
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> error opening security policy file
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> 
> .... probably some other error ? but it looks like the ip comes out fin
> e
> 
> Now - I also have Exceed installed on this machine and the
> Destination-Server has Solaris 8, so
> i dumped the IP-Packets for both X-Servers that got sent to the Host:
> 
> This is with cygwin-XFree, the startup-command was:
> 
> XWin -query chekov -from 6.201.253.220 -class HCLpcXserver -displayID
> HCLpcXserver:8CF0463DB -noreset
> (the class and displayID-stuff went in the invocation because it made t
> he
> whole thing look more exceedish
> on a packet-level - wild guessing)
> 
> Me is my machine with Xfree86 and TheServer is the Solaris-box which I 
> want
> to contact via XDMCP.
> 
> In Packet 3 things start to differ...
> 
>   1   0.00000 Me -> TheServer     UDP D=177 S=1442 LEN=15
> 
>            0: 1040 0800 20a2 ae7d 0000 f682 baa8 aaaa    .@.. ..}......
> ..
>           16: 0300 0000 0800 4500 0023 2245 0000 8011    ......E..#"E..
> ..
>           32: 1783 XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX 05a2 00b1 000f    ..............
> ..
>           48: f876 0001 0002 0001 00                     .v.......
> 
>   2   0.00141     TheServer -> Me UDP D=1442 S=177 LEN=56
> 
>            0: 0040 0000 f682 baa8 0800 20a2 ae7d aaaa    .@........ ..}
> ..
>           16: 0300 0000 0800 4500 004c f253 4000 ff11    ......E..L.S@.
> ..
>           32: 884a XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX 00b1 05a2 0038    .J............
> .8
>           48: 50a7 0001 0005 002a 0000 0008 7530 3130    P......*....u0
> 10
>           64: 3231 3132 001c 3220 7573 6572 7320 206c    2112..2 users 
>  l
>           80: 6f61 643a 2030 2e30 2c20 302e 302c 2030    oad: 0.0, 0.0,
>  0
>           96: 2e30                                       .0
> 
>   3   0.77793 Me -> TheServer     UDP D=177 S=1442 LEN=88
> 
>            0: 1040 0800 20a2 ae7d 0000 f682 baa8 aaaa    .@.. ..}......
> ..
>           16: 0300 0000 0800 4500 006c 224c 0000 8011    ......E..l"L..
> ..
>           32: 1733 XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX 05a2 00b1 0058    .3..??.......
> ...X
>           48: 87b3 0001 0007 004a 0000 0000 0000 0000    .......J......
> ..
>           64: 0200 124d 4954 2d4d 4147 4943 2d43 4f4f    ...MIT-MAGIC-C
> OO
>           80: 4b49 452d 3100 1358 432d 5155 4552 592d    KIE-1..XC-QUER
> Y-
>           96: 5345 4355 5249 5459 2d31 0016 4843 4c70    SECURITY-1..HC
> Lp
>          112: 6358 7365 7276 6572 3a38 4346 3034 3633    cXserver:8CF04
> 63
>          128: 4442                                       DB
> 
>   4   0.00020     TheServer -> Me UDP D=1442 S=177 LEN=36
> 
>            0: 0040 0000 f682 baa8 0800 20a2 ae7d aaaa    .@........ ..}
> ..
>           16: 0300 0000 0800 4500 0038 f254 4000 ff11    ......E..8.T@.
> ..
>           32: 885d XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX 00b1 05a2 0024    .]......??...
> ...$
>           48: 53cc 0001 0009 0016 0010 4e6f 2076 616c    S.........No v
> al
>           64: 6964 2061 6464 7265 7373 0000 0000         id address....
> 
> 
> 
> When I do it with Exceed it looks like:
> 
> 
>   1   0.00000 Me -> TheServer          UDP D=177 S=1462 LEN=15
> 
>            0: 1040 0800 20a2 ae7d 0000 f682 baa8 aaaa    .@.. ..}......
> ..
>           16: 0300 0000 0800 4500 0023 2329 0000 8011    ......E..##)..
> ..
>           32: 169f XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX 05b6 00b1 000f    ..............
> ..
>           48: f862 0001 0002 0001 00                     .b.......
> 
>   2   0.00128     TheServer -> Me UDP D=1462 S=177 LEN=56
> 
>            0: 0040 0000 f682 baa8 0800 20a2 ae7d aaaa    .@........ ..}
> ..
>           16: 0300 0000 0800 4500 004c f257 4000 ff11    ......E..L.W@.
> ..
>           32: 8846 XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX 00b1 05b6 0038    .F............
> .8
>           48: 5093 0001 0005 002a 0000 0008 7530 3130    P......*....u0
> 10
>           64: 3231 3132 001c 3220 7573 6572 7320 206c    2112..2 users 
>  l
>           80: 6f61 643a 2030 2e30 2c20 302e 302c 2030    oad: 0.0, 0.0,
>  0
>           96: 2e30                                       .0
> 
>   3   0.04664 Me -> TheServer          UDP D=177 S=1462 LEN=75
> 
>            0: 1040 0800 20a2 ae7d 0000 f682 baa8 aaaa    .@.. ..}......
> ..
>           16: 0300 0000 0800 4500 005f 232a 0000 8011    ......E.._#*..
> ..
>           32: 1662 XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX 05b6 00b1 004b    .b..??.......
> ...K
>           48: 0711 0001 0007 003d 0000 0100 0001 0004    .......=....
> ....
>           64: 06c9 fddc 0000 0000 0100 124d 4954 2d4d    ..??........M
> IT-M
>           80: 4147 4943 2d43 4f4f 4b49 452d 3100 1648    AGIC-COOKIE-1.
> .H
>           96: 434c 7063 5873 6572 7665 723a 3843 4630    CLpcXserver:8C
> F0
>          112: 3436 3344 42                               463DB
> 
>   4   0.00867     TheServer -> Me UDP D=1462 S=177 LEN=60
> 
>            0: 0040 0000 f682 baa8 0800 20a2 ae7d aaaa    .@........ ..}
> ..
>           16: 0300 0000 0800 4500 0050 f258 4000 ff11    ......E..P.X@.
> ..
>           32: 8841 XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX 00b1 05b6 003c    .A......??...
> ...<
>           48: d969 0001 0008 002e 0000 0046 0000 0000    .i.........F..
> ..
>           64: 0012 4d49 542d 4d41 4749 432d 434f 4f4b    ..MIT-MAGIC-CO
> OK
>           80: 4945 2d31 0010 XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX    IE-1..unreadab
> le
>           96: XXXX XXXX XXXX                             cookie-junk :)
> 
> 
> 
> Is it possible that the cause of my troubles is the
> XC-QUERY-SECURITY-1-part
> of the package ?
> 
> I tried with and without -auth, -ac -noreset, -class, -displayID, :0,
> Env-var OS=WinNT/"", -sp,
> -from, -broadcast, -query.
> 
> Maybe someone can help me, thanks in advance             Bye Ralf
> 
> 

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From nik@bates-haus.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nik@bates-haus.org (Nikolaus Bates-Haus)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: "X connection to 127.0. ...explicit kill..."
In-Reply-To: <3CA10FD4.3B10E7C6@acsu.buffalo.edu>
References: <20020326014057.65843.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com>  <3CA0641A.9786EDBF@acsu.buffalo.edu>  <3CA07145.7AB4C71E@acsu.buffalo.edu> <20020326164529.GA5061@rover.bates-haus.org> <3CA10FD4.3B10E7C6@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Message-ID: <20020328191218.GB1022@rover.bates-haus.org>

I finally got a chance to check out the config on my home machine.
I don't have /etc/hosts, either; what I did do was modify startxwin.bat
(and startxwin.sh) to set DISPLAY to :0.0 - try that.

-nik

On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 07:18:29PM -0500, Ed Conrad wrote:
> 
> Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote:
> 
> > I ran into something like this setting up my home machine, to which I
> > don't have access right now.
> > It ended up being an issue with host / DISPLAY configuration; check out
> > your /etc/hosts and make sure the entries make sense. I remember I had
> > to do something with localhost and/or my chosen hostname, and 127.0.0.1,
> > to get it to work.
> 
> I dont have that directory.
> The only host files I found are in a perl scripts folders about 5 levels under the
> root.  I did not see any display stuff like you talk about in any of them.  Is
> there no one who knows why I cant get my window up?
> 
> >
> > I think that what's happening is that XWin.exe starts, but all clients
> > fail to connect, so it just shuts down immediately.
> > I ended up setting my DISPLAY to something other than the default, as well
> > (try setting your DISPLAY to be just ":0" rather than "127.0.0.1:0")
> >
> 
> I tried that in bash, nota.
> 
> > -nik
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 08:01:58AM -0500, Ed Conrad wrote:
> > > Why don't you please re-read the original message.   I explained what happens
> > > when I run the bat files.
> > >
> > > The path in the bat files are correct or it would not open the xwindow in the
> > > first place!  You cant even open startx with the wrong path. I get the startx
> > > window, the window after that and then the xwin pops up for a second or so
> > > before it crashes.
> > >
> > > Something is going wrong when the xwindow is first opend.  The fact that I
> > > can't run XWin.exe is just a clue I included because the user guide says I
> > > should be able to run it.
> > > Andrew Markebo wrote:
> > >
> > > > / Ed Conrad  wrote:
> > > > | cygwin is installd.  This is a bug or somekind or config problem i have.
> > > >
> > > > *bonk* you are trying to run Xwin.exe, what happens if you run
> > > >  startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh??
> > > >
> > > > Basically the problem is that the environment variable PATH doesn't
> > > > contain c:\cygwin\bin, or where you installed cygwin. If I recall
> > > > right the startxwin-scripts sets this, but if you want to run without
> > > > them, you have to set the path yourself.
> > > >
> > > > [...]
> > > >
> > > > | > | If I try to run XWin.exe, it says that it cant find
> > > > | > | cygwin1.dll.
> > > >
> > > >         /Andy
> > > > --
> > > >  The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!
> > >
> 


From tdo_nguyen@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: tdo_nguyen@yahoo.com (Thuan Hieu Nguyen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Anomaly in xfree86
Message-ID: <20020305165107.31516.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com>

When I launch a Xwin using startwin.bat, get this
prompt:
 
'bash-2.05a$'

then I type some command

'bash-2.05a$xtartwn'

when I use backspace go back to fix my typo, the Xterm
hangs up when the cursor get past the first character

'bash-2.05a$'

I have Window 2000.

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From rasjidw@bigpond.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rasjidw@bigpond.com (Rasjid Wilcox)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: building gnu emacs under xfree ?
In-Reply-To: <3C84EAA4.A2CEFDDB@netcelo.com>
References: <3C84EAA4.A2CEFDDB@netcelo.com>
Message-ID: <200203060843.TAA24813@cts01.webone.com.au>

On Wed, 6 Mar 2002 2:56 am, Eric Chastan wrote:
> Is someone allready manage to build emacs under xfree ?
> Is someone have some tips on how doing it ?
>

Have a look at the following links.

http://jagor.srce.hr/%7Ehniksic/xemacs-on-windows-faq.txt
http://www.xemacs.org/faq/xemacs-faq.html#SEC255
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/windows/ntemacs.html

Have a bit more of a Google.  It looks like there are plenty of people who 
have built XEmacs under Cygwin, and a reasonable amount of doco around too.

Rasjid.


From sharminkabir@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: sharminkabir@hotmail.com (Sharmin Kabir)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Backup X in linux
Message-ID: 

Hello:
I have an existing X installation in linux/redhat7.1, the installer 
Xinstall.sh told me. Before I install it, it is strongly recommended that I 
backup the existing installation before proceeding. Could you pl tell me how 
can I backup ??? I am very new in linux.

Thanks

Sharmin



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From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: aterm under Cygwin/Xfree
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683203@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>

X 3.3.6 had X11R6.3 libraries, the latest cygwin-xfree is X11R6.4 based.
Try recompiling aterm and linking to newer version of X libraries.

Suhaib

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yaron [mailto:jethro@freakzilla.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 2:39 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: aterm under Cygwin/Xfree
> 
>   Hey all,
> 
> I've been using Cygwin for ages, and had installed the xfree package
> around a year ago. I wasn't actually running the xserver under Cygwin
> because a year ago it wasn't all that usable yet. I was using Exceed,
> which is a commercial X server, and was using the cygwin/xfree X
> applications.
> 
> I had also compiled aterm under cygwin and was using that.
> 
> Lately I installed a new machine, and decided to try cygwin/xfree on
> it. I
> was delighted to see that the X server is now perfectly usable!
> However,
> aterm no longer worked correctly. The aterm seems to be waiting for
> some
> sort of buffer to fill before it refreshes it's display. Either that
> or
> there's some sort of timing issue. Either way, it makes aterm almost
> unusable.
> 
> The thing is, I thought this was a cygwin/xfree problem, since my old
> machine had not had cygwin updated on it in a while, and still had X
> 3.3.6
> on it. But about a week ago I upgraded cygwin (and NOT xfree) on my
> old
> machine, and aterm started exhibiting the same problem.
> 
> I don't know if this is the right mailing list for this since it
> doesn't
> seem to be an xfree problem, but I figure people on this list might
> have
> encountered this sort of problem. I saw a similar question in the
> archive,
> but with no solution.
> 
> 
> TIA,
> 
> 
> -Yaron
> 
> --


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Create icons and project logo
In-Reply-To: <3C79103C.7070303@noodleroni.com>
Message-ID: 

It's a start.  I'm not sure about whether the X logo is copyrighted.  You'd
better check http://www.x.org/ and http://www.opengroup.org/ to figure out
if you can use the X logo without permission.  (I doubt that we can...)

Harold

P.S.  We'd better start cc'ing the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list so others can
take part in this discussion.

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> From: Tucker McLean [mailto:tucker@noodleroni.com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 11:10 AM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Subject: Re: Create icons and project logo
>
>
> Have you received the logo yet?
>
> Tucker
>
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From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory
In-Reply-To: <3C51093C.4D153A6E@otpbank.hu>
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Nagy Tibor wrote:

> It is interesting also, that the keyboard LEDs (NumLock, CapsLock) do
> not work on Win98 but they work on Win2000.

The win32 api is slightly different between win9x and winnt. Maybe this is a
reason for this. 

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From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (James Tetazoo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Windows based app.server
Message-ID: 

I'm surprised no one has mentioned WINE (http://www.winehq.org/). However, 
it does suffer from the limitation of only working on a Linux X-session 
running on x86 hardware (in other words, it's not cross-platform like the 
other solutions metioned in previous replies).

>From: "Chris Howells" 
>To: 
>Subject: Windows based app.server
>Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2050 11:52:05 -0000
>
>With an X server running on a Win32 machine, it's possible to run X
>applications (e.g. on Linux) and have them sent over the network to appear
>on the Win32 machine.
>
>However, has anybody tried the other way around -- having Windows
>applications appearing on a Linux desktop, the Windows applications all
>being run through a specific Windows (NT) based application server?
>
>For example, imagine a network running almost entirely Linux, but needing
>to run a few legacy Windows applications. What I would like is for the user
>(sitting in front of Linux box with X) to be able to click on an icon for a
>Windows application, causing the application to start running on a Windows
>(NT) based application server. The program would entirely run on the
>Windows server, but the screen output would be sent over the network so it
>could be controlled by the user sitting on their Linux/X machine.
>
>I'm just wondering if this is possible?
>
>Many thanks,
>Chris Howells
>


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From sean@nutros.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: sean@nutros.com (Sean LeBlanc)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: IceWM?
In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683341@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: <000301c1b0be$0921f620$1009a8c0@extrememotivation.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Suhaib Siddiqi
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:26 AM
> To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
> Subject: RE: IceWM?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > > maybe your IceWM failed to start.  Try starting it from 
> > xterm window.  
> > > It should show you errors if it is crashing.
> > 
> > I see icewm running in the Windows task manager -
> 
> you can kill it in Taskmanager

It doesn't appear to do anything to kill the old icewm. It dies, 
but even though I ran a new one from xterm, nothing changes.
BTW, the background is green - not the normal black and white background
X has when there is no wm.

> > could it 
> > still have crashed in that case? Also, do you mean to run 
> > icewm from the odd-looked xterm inside of XFree86?
> 
> yes! without a window manager, xterm would be odd-looking.
> 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Sean
> > 
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Sean LeBlanc [mailto:sean@nutros.com]
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 11:15 AM
> > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > Subject: IceWM?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Earlier I asked about window managers - I'm trying to get IceWM 
> > > > working for the time being. I downloaded binary 
> edition, changed 
> > > > startxwin.sh according to directions, and run startxwin.sh. The 
> > > > server comes up with a green background, and an xterm...but the 
> > > > xterm doesn't look right (no edges or title bar), and there is 
> > > > nothing else on the screen.  Any ideas on what I'm doing 
> > wrong here?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Sean
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> 


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XTrap -- xcygwin libXETrap.a
In-Reply-To: <200202280105.g1S15Ff04013@chesler.absol.com>
Message-ID: 

[Remail to Cygwin/XFree86 list of private email I sent with libXTrap.a
attached.]

Are you referring to the file that I have attached?

In XFree86's CVS tree, there is a directory called xc/lib/XTrap with most
file names starting with XE*, such as XETrapInit.c.  This directory is being
built and XTrap.dll is being included by the XFree86 packaging scripts, but
libXTrap.a must be getting missed for some reason...

Mail the list if this is indeed the file needed... in that case we only have
to fix the packaging scripts.

Harold

P.S. I'm going to be mailing the list shortly, without the attachment.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Robert Chesler
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 8:05 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Cc: rob@chesler.absol.com
> Subject: XTrap -- xcygwin libXETrap.a
>
>
> Great job including the XTrap extension in the xcygwin binary release.
> You are missing libXETrap.a - the XTrap client side library with which
> you must have statically linked the XTrap sample clients?
>
> Building the XTrap library requires some Xt internal header files hence
> it would be a heck of a lot easier if you provided this library, or
> perhaps you might include the functions of libXETrap.a within libXExt.a?
>
> I'll be happy to contribute time to this effort if someone can help
> me to reproduce your development build environment!
>
> --Robert
> inventor of XTrap from back in 1988 or so


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: remote xterm hangs when commands produce lots of stdout output
In-Reply-To: <20020111143214.70392.qmail@web13505.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20020111143214.70392.qmail@web13505.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

An alternative might be to try a rxvt from the remote host and see
what happens.. 

        /Andy

/ Raber Chris  wrote:
| If I do a command the produces lots of fast output to
| stdout (like ls -l for a directory with lots of
| entries), my remote xterms hang.
| 
| Local xterms that telnet into the remote site work
| fine.
| 
| Are there some parameters I should be setting on XWin
| to help with this?
| 
| TIA,
| 
| -Chris.
| 
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From jgchiu@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jgchiu@yahoo.com (Julio Chiu)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X programs with tcl/tk compile, but crash
Message-ID: <20020127014207.39644.qmail@web12002.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I wrote a simple tcl/tk that has frame which calls to
my c progra which in turns calls some X functions.

I can compile the program fine, but when I run it,
it core dumps with STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION.  I traced
through the program and it core dumps when it calls
X functions like DefaultScreen() and XGetGeometry.
( however, it works fine under Linux or SunOS ).  

I have the XFree 4.2.0 and tk/tcl 8.0.  Simple
tk/tcl-C program works fine.  Only when I call X stuff
will it coredump.  I search the mailing list for
similar problems, and even made sure that it was not
the /usr/include/X11.

Any insight? 
thanks in advance
jc

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From nagyt@otpbank.hu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nagyt@otpbank.hu (Nagy Tibor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory
Message-ID: <3C4EC7D1.5E4B641@otpbank.hu>

Did somebody observed that Cygwin/Xfree86's memory usage suddenly
increases, causing Windows getting slow?

I start Cygwin/Xfree86 and 50 konsole (KDE console) in it. I see in
Win98 performance monitor that CPU usage is 15%, memory usage is  70MB,
free physical memory 20MB and swap file size is 30MB. Than I start 5
konsoles more and sudenly CPU usage is 60%, memory usage is 96MB, free
physical memory 0MB and swap file size is 280MB!!! and the whole system
is getting very slow.

What is this?

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tibor Nagy
E-mail: nagyt@otpbank.hu
------------------------------------------------------------------------


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Documentation updates
Message-ID: 

I updated the Cygwin/XFree86 FAQ to answer the question about the font path
with Solaris (Q 4.9):
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-solaris-fonts


I also added a Q/A for the slowdown caused by ATI2evxx.exe (Q 6.1):
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-tasklist-programs
-slow


In the User's Guide I added documentation for starting multiple XDMCP
sessions with different hosts:
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html


I gave attributions to Dr. Edward Wornar and David Dawson, so they will want
to look at these updates.

Harold


From michael_bourgon@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: michael_bourgon@yahoo.com (Michael Bourgon)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Has anyone compiled Rox successfully?
Message-ID: <20020220171943.8105.qmail@web11103.mail.yahoo.com>

Howdy.  I'm a newbie to X on Cygwin, but I've gotten
Windowmaker up and running on it, and wanted to try
out Rox after reading about it.  So far, I've
installed/compiled glib, python, gtk+, python,
libxml2, gdk-pixbuf,
libiconv-1.6.1-cygwin-shared-bin.tar, and rox-base. 
When I try to run install.sh inside rox-1.2.0, it
starts compiling ROX-Filer/Apprun, and I get this
error message after a bunch of messages:

find.c:32: fnmatch.h: No such file or directory
make: *** [find.o] Error 1
Compile failed

I've found a copy of fnmatch.h in my gtk+ tarball, and
have tried putting it in the /src directory, the
rox-base directory, the ROX-Filer directory, and in
/tmp, all with no luck.  

Does anyone know what I should do next? 
Many thanks,
Michael


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From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 work with Japanese characters?
In-Reply-To: <20020327.081453.74732114.edi@serbski-institut.de>
References: <20020326164144.GA6601@redhat.com> <20020326.184547.41637619.edi@serbski-institut.de> <20020326194417.GD10851@redhat.com> <20020327.081453.74732114.edi@serbski-institut.de>
Message-ID: <20020327171824.GA27219@redhat.com>

On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 08:14:53AM +0100, PD Dr. Edward Wornar wrote:
>From: Christopher Faylor 
>Subject: Re: xfree86 work with Japanese characters?
>Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 14:44:17 -0500
>
>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 06:45:47PM +0100, PD Dr. Edward Wornar wrote:
>> >For me (emacs/mew, mozilla, konqueror) it does.
>> 
>> xterm, too?
>
>I don't know. The fonts are obviously there.
>I don't have a Japanese xterm installed. Why don't you just try?
>(Or tell me what I have to do to try and tell you.)

Because I wouldn't know where to start.  This was just an idle question
for anyone who'd done this.

AFAICT, the applications that you have mentioned must all be built by
yourself or acquired elsewhere rather than parts of the standard
Cygwin/XFree86 package.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Okay, I mirrored the files:
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/xbase-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/setup.hint
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/md5.sum

Harold


> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Andrew Markebo
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 4:50 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)
> 
> 
> Throw a browser at:
>         http://flognat.myip.org/xbase 
>                 (ehm cable-modem, so it is not that fast, would
>         apreciate if someone with faster connection could mirror it ;-))
> 
> xbase, one package with all the required files.. 
> 
> There are couple of small quirks, but I thought you should throw an
> eye on it before I fixed those.. ;-) at least it fires up when I start
> startxwin.bat.
> 
> A couple of setup questions...  
> 
> * Is it ok to ask the user questions and so on in the postinstall
>   script??
> 
> * there are some questions in the xinstall script about manually
>   adding stuff to the termcap database, asks if it should replace some
>   files.. do we need to do anything there?
> 
> Some of the files are read-only, meaning that overwriting them can't
> be done, don't know if it is anything to worry about? (It was just me
> who had problems continuing a aborted installation)
> 
> I am just mainly exercising :-) Feeling around with the setup and so
> on, assuming that I would do the version where we took all the
> tgz-files and made setup.hints for them all, where in the hierarchy
> should they be put??
> 
> cygwin/contrib/xfree/Xbin/setup.hint
>                      Xbin/Xbin.tgz   
>                      Xetc/setup.hint
>                      Xetc/Xetc.tgz
> or  
> 
> cygwin/contrib/Xbin/setup.hint
>                Xbin/Xbin.tgz   
>                Xetc/setup.hint
>                Xetc/Xetc.tgz
> 
> When planning for this, I have the thought of basically,
> startup-scripts requires Xbin.tgz Xdoc.tgz Xetc.tgz Xfenc.tgz 
> Xfnts.tgz Xlib.tgz Xman.tgz 
> Xxserv.tgz.. these require startup-scripts (hmm maybe rename to 
> xstartupscripts?)
> 
> the other packages like Xf100, Xfscl, Xnext.. requires
> startup-scripts.. 
> 
>         /Andy
> 
> -- 
>  The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!
> 


From jaritifi@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jaritifi@yahoo.com (jari timonen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: can't start xterm
Message-ID: <20020109155854.81859.qmail@web21210.mail.yahoo.com>

My xterm (and some other applications) won't start.
Windows just hang and i must end xterm task. Twm and
Xclock seems working OK. I have Win98 with 1.1.8
cygwin and latest XFree86. 

--jari

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From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X in cygwin problem
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

/etc/profile, or ~/.profile, maybe add something like

if ! echo $PATH | /bin/grep -q "/usr/X11R6/bin" ; then
  PATH="$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin"
fi

(Well it has a bunch of safety-nets but..)

        /Andy

/ "Sharmin Kabir"  wrote:
| Hi,
| To start X in cygwin, I do the command "sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh
| at the bash prompt all the time, otherwise I dont get X! Could you pl
| tell me where is the place to set up this path?

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From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Mouse-click focus in X ?
Message-ID: 

How do I get the MS windows-like mouse-click focus behavior in X windows? I
want a window to become active first when I click within the window area.
(Presently a window becomes active when I place the mouse within the
window area.) I'm using standard Cygwin-xfree setup with twm.

Thanks for any answers,
Lars.

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From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Please remove "sourcemaster" link from cygwin-xfree page
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683204@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>


Removed. We will have some users who like to e-mail at every possible
address they find on URL.

Suhaib

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:cgf@redhat.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 7:32 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Please remove "sourcemaster" link from cygwin-xfree page
> 
> I'd like to request that the 'sourcemaster@cygnus.com" address be
> removed from the cygwin-xfree web pages.  In 99.99% of the cases, I've
> found that people send inappropriate mail there -- mail that should
> really go to the project mailing list.
> 
> My theory is that "sourcemaster" sounds like an individual while a
> "mailing list" is a potentially frightening place filled with hostile
> users.
> 
> Regardless, I've removed it from the cygwin mailing list.  I was
> surprised to get some email today at sourcemaster@cygnus.com regarding
> cygwin.  A grep revealed this address on the cygwin-xfree web pages.
> 
> Even if you disagree with the need to advertise this link, the address
> is wrong.  It should be sourcemaster@sources.redhat.com.  I would
> still
> rather not advertise it however.
> 
> cgf


From joseph.d.bronkema@lmco.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: joseph.d.bronkema@lmco.com (Joe Bronkema)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XWin core dump
Message-ID: <3CA32B91.72899B5E@lmco.com>

Hi,

I tried Cygwin/XFree for the first time today, and was unpleasantly
surprised with a core dump when I tried to start the server.

I'm running Windows 95 with Cygwin 1.3.10 and the 4.2.0 binaries from
mirrors.rcn.net.  Here's the stack dump:

$ cat XWIN.EXE.stackdump
Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=19E0C48A
eax=82BBAE20 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00A4EBE8 esi=82BBA00C
edi=82BBA040
ebp=00A4EC00 esp=00A4EBBC program=C:\CYGWIN\USR\X11R6\BIN\XWIN.EXE
cs=0157 ds=015F es=015F fs=361F gs=0000 ss=015F
Stack trace:
Frame     Function  Args
00A4EC00  19E0C48A  (00000000, 000000C0, 46000000, 82BBA00C)
017D1AC8  00021401  (FFFFFFFF, FFFFFFFF, FFFFFFFF, FFFFFFFF)
0179E578  01786E3A  (017D1AC8, 0974F18B, 2BC4E856, C483FFFC)
6029107 [main] XWin 586635 handle_exceptions: Error while dumping state
(probabl
y corrupted stack)

I checked the FAQ.  The entry for STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION suggested
multiple conflicting versions of cygwin1.dll.  I have only the one.

Any ideas?  Any additional info I could provide that would help?


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
Message-ID: 

Hi,

Is there any reason why we use Blt instead of BltFast for copying the 
shadow surface. I just searched the MSDN and found this article
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/wcegmm/htm/ddover_52.asp

bye
	ago
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From baerrs@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: baerrs@hotmail.com (Scott Baer)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: x -query problems after update to xfree86 4.2
Message-ID: 


I have upgraded my Linux box to XFree86 4.2.. and now when I try to connect 
to it from cygwin, on a NT 4.o box.. it will not connect....
here is the command I am using...
/usr/X11R6/bin/X -query hostnameOfLinuxbox(..or IP)
This just gives me the x window(black/white checkerd... but no log-in like 
it use to.
I just upgraded to Xfree 4.2 on the Linux box(SuSE 7.3)
and first though this might be where the problme was.. but I if I go to 
another Linux box ..(both other SuSE & other Linux Distros..Red Hat..).. 
that has not had the X server upgraded.. I can still log into the SuSE Box.. 
and bring up the X desktop(KDE)...(the whole desktop... not just an app)
I have sence upgraded my cygwin & Xfree86 on my windows to the current 
releses.
I can run the startxwin.bat fine.. and then ssh in to the Linux box.. and 
bring up an application fine..
I can do the X -query in to a none upgraded SuSE box from cygwin
I can do the X -query in to a upgraded SuSE boxe from a non-upgraded SuSE 
7.3 and Red Hat 7.2 box
So this leaves me kind of stuck... I am wondering if their has been a but 
reported between xfree86 4.1 & 4.2 /cygwin and xfree86 4.2 /linux..
anyone have any ideas...
I am getting this on the upgraded SuSE box...
/var/log/warn
kdm[1149]: Abnormal helper termination, code 1, signal 0
kdm[1149]: fatal IO error 32 (broken pipe)
.. I dont see any error on the cygwin side....though I'm not real sure where 
to look either...


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: using print screen
In-Reply-To: <20020330020418.37364.qmail@web20802.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

If you're running at 8 bits per pixel, then you'll pretty much always have
problems.  Just look at the screen captures on the website:

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/screenshots/

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Robert Coit
> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 9:04 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: using print screen
>
>
> Why are the colors changed when i use print screen to
> capture the image in an xwindow?
>
> how do i get the actual colors?
>
> TIA
>
>
>
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From rasjidw@bigpond.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rasjidw@bigpond.com (Rasjid Wilcox)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfree in cygwin Setup program
In-Reply-To: <20020204200348.GA1308@redhat.com>
References: <200202041048.VAA16957@cts01.webone.com.au> <20020204200348.GA1308@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <200202051214.XAA09636@cts01.webone.com.au>

On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 7:03 am, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 09:48:31PM +1100, Rasjid Wilcox wrote:
> >Just wondering what the status of getting XFree into the Cygwin Setup
> >program?  I followed the discussion on 21st Jan, and a few weeks ago I saw
> >some binaries up on the ftp site that looked like they were in progress,
> > but they are no longer there.
> >
> >I'd be willing to help.
>
> They're not there yet.  You can help by downloading and trying the
> setup.exe snapshots that Robert Collins has been making available.  I'm
> sure he would love feedback.
>
> Once the new version of setup.exe is available, we'll be able to
> incorporate XFree86 into the distribution.
>
> cgf

Okay.  I'm in.  Where do I get the snapshots from Robert?

Rasjid.


From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file
In-Reply-To: <20020109174042.45366.qmail@web10108.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <005501c19942$8463f880$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Sylvain Petreolle
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 6:41 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I would install Kde 2.2.1 and i didn't find
> the setup.ini file on
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/kde-cygwin.
>
> Where could I download it ?
>
The alpha release of kde 2.2.1 does not support downloading with setup.exe/setup.ini.

You have to download each archive and the related updates/patches. Read the relating README's
for more information about installing and so on.
I think the beta release would support this. Perhaps if no reaons speek against, it will be
released with the
cygwin mirroring network.

Regards

Ralf



From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Missing File Xvar.tgz on mirror
In-Reply-To: <20020306174645.IWT14955.tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209.226.175.20]>
References: <20020306174645.IWT14955.tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209.226.175.20]>
Message-ID: <20020306175813.GX1112@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

There is no Xvar.tgz on Cygwin either. Cygwin has no /var directory.

Alan.

On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 12:46:45PM -0500, egon.phillips@sympatico.ca wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The Mirror subtree:
> 
> mirrors.rcn.net
> mirrors/sources.redhat.com/cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0
> 
> is missing the file Xvar.tgz
> 
> I picked it up from 
> /mirrors/sources.redhat.com/cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.1.0/Xvar.tgz
> 
> maybe it will work, maybe i won't? In anycase could you drop the correct file 
> in the subtree.
> 
> Thanx Egon.
> 


From darko.palic@gmx.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: darko.palic@gmx.de (Palic, Darko)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Please help: XDMCP connection dog-slow
In-Reply-To: <20020325.100013.74748104.edi@serbski-institut.de>
Message-ID: 

Do you use a novell logon?
If so I?m not sure if it is the problem, but could you try to resolve the
names of both computers?
Try to logon onto your linux and try to resolve the other computer name, and
also the other way (logon on client try to resolve the linux box)

best regards,
Darko

> Hi,
>
> thanks for your answer. I'll mail this personally since I'm not
> sure it's of common interest for the list.
>
> > how do you connect to the mandrake? Via DNS names or via IP?
>
> IP. Novell stuff (IPX) performs normally, so does ping and VNC.
> everything else (ftp, xdm) is terribly slow.
>
> > Then the login appears, are tere any differences in the
> performance during
> > the session?
>
> The login screen appears *very slowly* and after quite some time.
> Login, wait two minutes for your desktop (just fvwm) to appear.
> Open a terminal, wait for the window, wait for the shell. And so on ...
>
> Cheers
>
> Edi
>


From cygwin@wagnertech.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin@wagnertech.de (Michael Wagner)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XFree 4.2.0 on Windows 98 on Laptop SCENIC Mobile 360
References: <001301c1cdfb$77ea1740$0201a8c0@oemcomputer><003201c1ceb5$6b2565e0$0201a8c0@oemcomputer> 
Message-ID: <001c01c1d81d$8ec968e0$0201a8c0@oemcomputer>

Hello everybody,

if you have this problem, as I had:
--
XWin does not start.
/tmp/XWin.log:
ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 5 i: 1
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000017
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per
pix
el
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l 0 b
715
t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 2036
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 16
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing
from
 list!

Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'
--

Here is the solution, that helped in my case:

1) Start Cygwin installation and switch to UNIX file mode (no additional
package installed, see Cygwin/XFree86 Installation Guide p. 9)
2) Mount DOS drive in binary mode. By typing "mount", you can check your
mode. If if is "textmode", you have to
- unmout your system: cd /cygwin/bin   umount /
- remount your system: ./mount -b c: /
3) Reinstall XFree86

====>>>>> BUT my bash-prompt changed. Instead of "$" it has changed to
"bash-2.05a$"  ????

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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory
In-Reply-To: <3C4FB722.C1F2348A@otpbank.hu>
Message-ID: 

Tibor,

How much memory does your system have?  Give me a count of just the physical
memory.  Also, let me know what version of Windows you are running.

It is correct that each window opened in XDMCP needs memory, but that is
expected.  However, I'm running Windows 2000 and I opened 56 konsoles, but
XWin.exe only took 18 MB of memory (according to Task Monitor).  I'm
guessing that you're running Windows 95/98/Me, so the numbers that you are
seeing are actually skewed (Task Monitor does a terrible job of reporting
memory usage, but the tools in 95/98/Me are even worse).

Basically, I'm guessing that you don't have enough physical memory to be
doing what you are trying to do.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Nagy Tibor
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:26 AM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory
>
>
> Hi Harold,
>
> I am logging into KDE on a remote machine via XDMCP.
>
> Tibor
>
> Harold Hunt wrote:
> >
> > Nagy,
> >
> > Are you running KDE under Cygwin or are you logging into KDE on a remote
> > machine via XMDCP?  I'm assuming that you are running KDE
> locally.  In that
> > case, you problem is most likely specific to KDE, not to Cygwin/XFree86.
> > So, you're going to have to ask the kde-on-cygwin folks the
> same question in
> > order to get some answers.
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Nagy Tibor
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:25 AM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory
> > >
> > >
> > > Did somebody observed that Cygwin/Xfree86's memory usage suddenly
> > > increases, causing Windows getting slow?
> > >
> > > I start Cygwin/Xfree86 and 50 konsole (KDE console) in it. I see in
> > > Win98 performance monitor that CPU usage is 15%, memory usage
> is  70MB,
> > > free physical memory 20MB and swap file size is 30MB. Than I start 5
> > > konsoles more and sudenly CPU usage is 60%, memory usage is 96MB, free
> > > physical memory 0MB and swap file size is 280MB!!! and the
> whole system
> > > is getting very slow.
> > >
> > > What is this?
> > >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Tibor Nagy
> > > E-mail: nagyt@otpbank.hu
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Tibor Nagy
> Director of Card and Core Banking Systems Development Project
> National Savings and Commercial Bank Ltd (OTP Bank)
> H-1051 Budapest Nador u. 16.
> Tel: 00 36 1 374 6990	Fax: 00 36 1 374 6981	E-mail: nagyt@otpbank.hu
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------


From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Integrating xwinclip support
In-Reply-To: <20020203165056.62426.qmail@web20805.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Brian Genisio wrote:
> I am not sure that would be the best programming practice... (I could be wrong)
>  Wont that leave the IOErrorHandler function call still on the stack, causing
> problems on multiple restarts of the server?  
> 
> Or does that setjmp/longjmp change the address of the return completely?  Will
> that leave other calls on the stack?  If I am wrong on this, could you explain
> this practice please?  I have never used such a technique, and I am curious.

I never did either. But as far as I know does longjmp does rewind the stack
direkt after the setjmp call. It's like rewinding everything you did last day 
and wake up again :)

xwinclip might look like this

init
SetIOErrorHandler
setjmp
XOpenDisplay <----------------------+ 
while (true)                        |
    XNextEvent                      |  
     |  processEvent                |
     |                              |
     |(on error)                    |  
     +---> IOErrorHandler           |
                CloseConnection     |
                longjmp ------------+


To integrate it into the server, you would have to create a new thread/
process at server statup and start in the diagram at "init"
                
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    ago
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From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cannot start XServer
In-Reply-To: 
References:  <20020221231016.J2567@fairlite.demon.co.uk> 
Message-ID: <20020221234810.L2567@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

Sounds like you need to mount your drives in binary mode, and
retry the installation as the font files don't quite work right
in text mode.

Alan.

On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 11:39:21PM -0000, Nikolay Metchev wrote:
> This is what XWin.log says:
> ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
> winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
> ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 5 i: 1
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per
> pixel
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 716 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 716 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 691 r 1018 l 0 b
> 691 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 4072
> winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 32
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> 
> Fatal server error:
> could not open default font 'fixed'
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan Hourihane" 
> To: "Nikolay Metchev" 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Cannot start XServer
> 
> 
> > What does /tmp/XWin.log have to say ?
> >
> > Alan.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 10:37:49PM -0000, Nikolay Metchev wrote:
> > > I sent the e-mail below .  I have been asked to provide additional
> > > information. I am using Windows XP. I have a TCP/IP LAN using internet
> > > connection sharing. I do not use Zone Alarm or any other personal
> firewall
> > > tool. I still get the error message listed below.
> > >
> > > > I have installed the 4.2.0 version of Cygwin/XFree86 on my Windows XP
> > > laptop
> > > > using a second monitor and when I tried to run the XServer a window of
> > > some
> > > > sort appeared and then disappeared leaving this message:
> > > > $ ./startxwin.bat
> > > > startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows NT/2000
> > > > XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server
> > > > "127.0.0.1:0.0"
> > > > XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server
> > > > "127.0.0.1:0.0"
> > > >
> > > >       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
> > > >       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
> > > >       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
> > > >
> > > > any ideas what I am doing wrong?
> > > >
> >


From philburk@softsynth.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: philburk@softsynth.com (Phil Burk)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: missing telnet, solution
References: <20020322203721.GM25487@redhat.com>  <20020324024635.GB11351@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <008e01c1d304$b7c0f290$640aa8c0@topdog>

From: "Christopher Faylor" 
> wasn't.  It never occurred to us that people wouldn't be able to figure
> out that you could click on things and see packages to install.  But,
> that was the case.

Give me a break. I'm not stupid.  The documentation for Cygwin/XFree said
"All packages, downloaded size of 56.1 MiB as of 2001-04-19, are selected
for download by default; I do not recommend changing the list of packages to
download unless you really know what you are doing:". This is on page:

   http://cygwin.com/xfree/docs/ug/setup-cygwin-downloading.html

I just followed the docs and it didn't work because telnet was missing. All
I am suggesting is that the documents be updated so that if people follow
them then they will be successful. I also suggested adding a line to the
Cygwin package list that says "You can use SETUP.EXE from the installer to
add packages from this list.". It was not obvious to me that the same
installer is used for installation and also for adding packages after
installation.

I also publish free software so I appreciate the eforts that have gone into
Cygwin and XFree86. But when people tell me that they have problems with my
docs, then I try to correct them (the docs, not the people). I don't
understand why there has been so much resistance from this group to making a
couple lines of change to the docs.  They are simply out of date and could
easily be corrected.

Sometimes things seem obvious to the developer but only because the
developer already knows them. It is possible that reasonably intelligent
people cannot read the developers mind and may need to read the docs
instead.

Phil Burk



From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X browser
In-Reply-To: <20020125154041.A5152@nimbus.dmillard.com>
Message-ID: <20020126015414.33475.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com>

dillo works in Cygwin/Windows/XFree.  I compiled it.  It is super fast, but
also extremely new, and doesnt display too many pages correctly.  I think you
can find it on sourceforge.

Brian

--- Phil Humpherys  wrote:
> I'd sure like to get an X browser running in xfree.  I don't seem to be
> able to get netscape or mozilla to work in cygwin-xfree.
> 
> Any suggestion?  Thanks in advance.
> 


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From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
In-Reply-To: <1015974825.22601.5.camel@localhost2.localdomain>
Message-ID: 

On 12 Mar 2002, Roger wrote:
> 
> so the rule is, whenever performing system file restoration and backup,
> use cygwin explicitly. ...(?)

exactly.
 
bye
	ago 
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From darko.palic@gmx.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: darko.palic@gmx.de (Palic, Darko)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: missing telnet, solution
In-Reply-To: <20020322203721.GM25487@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Hello Christopher,

okay it is nice to follow the request of the users, but why isn't a
selectbox available, there something like "basic/minimal, common/typical and
complete" could be selected instead of changing the whole setup? It would
help!

best regards,
Darko

> I think the change you're referring to was that we added, at the request
> of many users, a minimal install.  It's based on the debian "base"
> category, which does not include bzip2.  The default installation is a
> really basic one and it's looking like we need to change that.
>
> Anyway, I'll try to keep in this in mind if we change something in the
> future that impacts Cygwin/XFree86.  It never occurred to me that this
> would be an issue.
>
> cgf
>


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From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Building Enlightenment
Message-ID: <010901c19d4f$2d6cd950$fe6207d5@BRAMSCHE>

> > 
> > 
> > Sure, I will put add to URL
> 
> This is the url to the downloadpage 
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=27249 
> 
> The package is currently named kde-xlib-1.1.tar.gz and contains libXext and libICE 
> (missing ICEConnectionNumber symbol) 
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ups. This is not right. It is IceLastMajorOpcode, that is missing. 

Index: ICE-def.cpp
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/xc/lib/ICE/ICE-def.cpp,v
retrieving revision 1.5
diff -u -b -B -r1.5 ICE-def.cpp
--- ICE-def.cpp 2001/04/18 16:13:18     1.5
+++ ICE-def.cpp 2002/01/14 23:00:34
@@ -69,6 +69,7 @@
  _IceTransGetConnectionNumber
  _IceTransRead
  _IceTransWrite
+ _IceLastMajorOpcode

 /* $Xorg: ICE-def.cpp,v 1.3 2000/08/21 16:42:31 coskrey Exp $ */
 /* $XFree86: xc/lib/ICE/ICE-def.cpp,v 1.5 2001/04/18 16:13:18 dawes Exp $ */

> If the libICE in this package is a problem, let me know. 
> 
> Ralf 
>  
> > 
> > Suhaib
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ralf Habacker [mailto:Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de] 
> > > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 5:19 PM
> > > To: Cygwin-Xfree
> > > Subject: Building Enlightenment
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Suhaib,
> > > 
> > > it is interesting for the xfree people to have a link to a 
> > > patched libxext relating to this thread 
> > > http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg01466.html?
> > > 
> > > If so I would send a mail to the cygwin-xfree list with a 
> > > link to the kde-cygwin project on sourcforge, where one can 
> > > find such a lib.
> > > 
> > > Ralf
> > > 
> > > 
> > 


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfs under Win2k
In-Reply-To: <3C863E6E.9010605@isd.dp.ua>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Sergei Lodyagin wrote:

> Is there any HOWTO how to setup X font server under cygwin on Win2k?
> 
> I've noticed that the line
> 
> dir ":7100"
> 
> in the /etc/X11/XftConfig has no effect.

XftConfig? afair this was introduced after xfree 4.2.0 release.
Before and in xfree 4.2.0 the config file is /etc/X11/fs/config
or /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fs/config

bye
	ago
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From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
In-Reply-To: <20020312190601.J29574@cygbert.vinschen.de>
Message-ID: <014c01c1d0aa$a5b31800$276107d5@BRAMSCHE>

>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 09:30:05AM +0100, Ralf
> Habacker wrote:
> > I have done some analysing work with this and with the
> > cygwin daemon (cygserver transport classes)
> there may be a
> > way in the future to implement unix domain sockets with
> > named pipes which speed up unix domain sockets up to 250
> > MB/s, as I have measured with a quick an dirty sample
>
> Fine.  But how do you implement them on 9x/Me?
>
If 9x/Me does not support named pipes, why not using the
currrent tcp/ip code for this ?

Ralf



From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xserver crashes on kde 2.2.1's kate
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831F8@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>


> From dawes@XFree86.Org Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:16:22 -0800 (PST)
> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:16:22 -0800 (PST)
> From: David Dawes dawes@XFree86.Org
> Subject: CVS Update: xc (branch: xf-4_1-branch)
> 
> CVSROOT:        /home/x-cvs
> Module name:    xc
> Changes by:     dawes@public.xfree86.org.       01/12/21 13:16:21
> 
> Log message:
>   Update the version/date for the 4.1 branch, in preparation 
> to tag a 4.1.0.1
>   snapshot.  Note: this doesn't imply a 4.1.1 release will be coming.
> 
> So you see we'll have 4.1.0 around some time. Maybe we should 
> have a note 
> in the installation instructions that newer server releases 
> are available.
> 


4.1.x? or 4.2.o?  I am lost.

Suhaib



> bye
> 	ago
> -- 
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>  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017
> 


From cygwin@hack.kampbjorn.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin@hack.kampbjorn.com (Hack =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kampbj=F8rn?=)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Blackbox ?
References:  <20020307160547.GE10147@redhat.com> 
Message-ID: <3C888E51.B237069B@hack.kampbjorn.com>

Rick Oosterling wrote:
> 
> "Christopher Faylor"  wrote in message
> news:20020307160547.GE10147@redhat.com...
> > On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 03:34:05PM +0100, Rick Oosterling wrote:
> > >Anybody know where to download this windowsmanager ?
> > >
> > >The original site is up but the download links are down :-(
> > >
> > >Thanks
> >
> > Wrong mailing list.
> >
> > cgf
> >
> >
> 
> Oh ?
> 
> I want to install it on cygwin but first i need to download it !! So
> off-topic ?

YES !!! (And if you too want to unsubscribe nobody cares)

Somehow you found the cygwin@cygwin.com list without reading the Cygwin
mailing lists page (http://cygwin.com/lists.html) and missed the
existence of the Cygwin/Xfree list.

Since you know that blackbox is a windowsmanager you know enough about
Unix and X as to claim ignorance about XFree here. And the need of a X
client library and a running X server to get anything out of blackbox.

-- 
Med venlig hilsen / Kind regards

Hack Kampbj?rn


From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window.
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683249@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>

You can read more about XDMPC at Cygwin/Xfree website.

What is your remote shell?  CSH or BASH.  If it is bash 
then you need 

export DISPLAY=your_windows_ip_address:0.0

Suhaib

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Genisio [mailto:briangenisio@yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: Raber Chris; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Cc: briangenisio@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: Newbie needs help opening browser window.
> 
> 
> So did you try running an XDMCP desktop with the command line 
> interface that I mentioned in the last mail?
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> --- Raber Chris  wrote:
> > Brian,
> > 
> > > 
> > > Well, running a browser should be as easy as running
> > it with
> > > a display set :
> > > 
> > > netscape -display winmachine:0
> > 
> > Tried this, does not work. No window ever is
> > displayed.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Or setting the display variable, and running
> > netscape :
> > > 
> > > setenv DISPLAY winmachine:0
> > > netscape
> > 
> > Same problem.
> > 
> > > 
> > > To run XDMCP, if you have it enabled in the linux
> > box (I think most
> > > distributions have it on by default), simply use the
> > 
> > > following command line
> > > variables when starting the X server (This is in the
> > user's manual):
> > > 
> > > -query linuxIP -from windowsIP
> > > 
> > > Brian
> > 
> > 
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From RGuier@universalballast.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: RGuier@universalballast.com (Guier, Russ)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: FW: File manager help
Message-ID: <49DE422E3AAAD211A11000104BD2449A06BEDA78@NATNMAIL02>

> Would you recommend a file manager which will load with the least amount
> of configuring. I have had a difficult time trying to load several
> different file managers.
> 
> Thank You
> 
> Russ Guier


From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window.
In-Reply-To: <20020111141018.64988.qmail@web13504.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020111143359.40568.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com>

Well, I am a bit confused about your question.  If you are looking to run
annother window manager, but not run it from the Windows box, then run it from
the the linux box...

Get the XFree/Cygwin server up
>From the Linux box, run the windows manager... (ex. fvwm -display windows:0)

I like using the XDMCP feature, documented on the website.  XDMCP allows you to
log in remotely, and ship your desktop to the XFree/Cygwin server.  It works
well.  

Brian


--- Raber Chris  wrote:
> Reposting, I don't need a direct email response. I
> found the WEB UI to the list archive...
> 
> First, thanks for Xfree/cygwin. Just what I needed to
> do some remote Linux work from my PC.
> 
> I have cygwin/xfree and can start remote xterms from a
> linux server just fine. I'd like to be able to run a
> netscape or other browser from my remote linux
> machine, but trying to run netscape doesn't seem to
> work.
> 
> I am using the twm. Do I have to run kde or gnome to
> pull this off? What is the simplest way to use some
> other window manager? I'd prefer not to have to
> install another wm on my pc if I don't have to.
> 
> Suggestions are much appreciated.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> -Chris.
> 
> 
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From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Backup X in linux
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C266A75C@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>

 
You should take this question to Linux mailing list please.

Thanks

Suhaib


-----Original Message-----
From: Sharmin Kabir
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Sent: 1/1/2002 12:26 PM
Subject: Backup X in linux

Hello:
I have an existing X installation in linux/redhat7.1, the installer 
Xinstall.sh told me. Before I install it, it is strongly recommended
that I 
backup the existing installation before proceeding. Could you pl tell me
how 
can I backup ??? I am very new in linux.

Thanks

Sharmin



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From matthew.donald@motile.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: matthew.donald@motile.net (Matthew Donald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin as a telnet command shell...
References: <20020131140215.A21277@nimbus.dmillard.com> <3C5A7B47.9000502@gatwick.westerngeco.slb.com> <006001c1ab23$680ca9f0$d527a8c0@CACHAREL>
Message-ID: <02b101c1ac82$318329d0$2102a8c0@motile.net>

Hi Jean-Marc,

The Telnet Server Admin Tool has a 'Default Shell' setting.  Change this to
'C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe'.  This should fix your problem.

BTW, if you don't have the Telnet Server Admin Tool, install the full set of
admin tools off the Win2K Server install CD.

regards Matthew

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean-Marc Paulin" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 12:21 AM
Subject: Cygwin as a telnet command shell...


> Hi,
>
> I am running telnet server on Win2000. Does anyone know how to make cygwin
> my default shell when logged-in from telnet ?
>
> thanks
>
> JM
>



From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X browser
In-Reply-To: <3C51EE1A.74BA8E21@pobox.com>
References: <20020125154041.A5152@nimbus.dmillard.com>
	<3C51EE1A.74BA8E21@pobox.com>
Message-ID: 

/ "John A. Turner"  wrote:
| Phil Humpherys wrote:
| > 
| > I'd sure like to get an X browser running in xfree.  I don't seem to be
| > able to get netscape or mozilla to work in cygwin-xfree.
| 
| why in the world would you want to do such a thing??

Comeon, why do you need cygwin on your desktop?? :-) Just squeeze
linux into the machine instead.. ;-) One reason could maybe be that he
wants to see how a unix-folk sees a webpage.. maybe not.. 

To the original author.. what do you mean with X browser, yeah I know
netscape/whatever, but should it run on the machine with cygwin, or on
another machine standing beside??

        /Andy

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From rolf@sci-d-vis.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rolf@sci-d-vis.com (Rolf Schneider)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: hardware accelerated OpenGL & Cygwin-XFree ?
Message-ID: <3C6D91FC.5A2DB1AA@sci-d-vis.com>


Hi!

I'd like to migrate a fairly complex application from IRIX/Linux to
bloody "windows" using Cygwin-XFree. My app. makes extensive use of
OpenGL in several different windows. I assume OpenGL in Cygwin-XFree
means "MESA". Unfortunately, a software implementation of OpenGL isn't
fast enough to drive my application.

Hmm, would it be possible to configure XFree, so that Window's OpenGl
libs/drivers are being used instead of MESA? Since Window's OpenGL
drivers will almost certianly be hardware accelerated, my application
would become very fast...

Thanks for your help!

    Rolf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under v4.2.0?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Oops... XWin-works is my known-good copy of XWin.exe.  I do development work
on XWin all the time, so I have to save a copy of XWin that works, thus
XWin-works.  I could have sworn that I removed the '-works' from the file
name, but I guess I didn't.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Victor Atkinson [mailto:atkinson@syrres.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 4:57 PM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Subject: RE: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under
> v4.2.0?
>
>
> Harold,
>
> Thanks for the fast reply.  However, your answer confuses me.  I
> do not have
> any executable, script or batch file called "XWin-works".  However, when I
> modified your example to:
>
> > start /B XWin :0 -query host1
> > start /B XWin :1 -query host2
>
> it works perfectly.
>
> I would swear that I tried that particular combination.  (After being busy
> with other things for a couple of days, then coming back and
> taking a fresh
> look at the documentation, etc, this solution seems obvious to me.  Funny
> how it works out that way sometimes.)
>
> Having had success with your suggestions, I modified the original
> startxwin.bat batch file into something that gives me the
> functionality that
> I have been wanting.  Below is a 4NT (my command-line-interpreter) batch
> file that accepts a name of a host running XDM Chooser, then attempts to
> start XWin on a free display.  I don't yet know BASH script
> programming, but
> feel free to modify and distribute this as you see fit.
>
> begin XWinIndirect.btm
> -----------------------------------------
>
> @ echo off
>
> ::	Check inputs.
> iff %# lt 1 then
> 	echo `Error!  Command-line missing desired remote host for
> XDMCP Chooser
> query.`
> 	quit 1
> endiff
>
> ::	Set global environment variables.
> set CYGWIN_ROOT=d:\cygwin
> set PATH=.;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\bin;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\usr\X11R6\bin;%PATH%
>
> ::	Find unused X-Server display.
> for /l %Counter in (0,1,9) (
> 	set TestFile=%CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix\X%Counter%
> 	iff not exist %TestFile% then
> 		set DisplayNumber=%Counter%
> 		goto DisplayFound
> 	endiff
> )
> echo 'Error!  No unused X-Server display found.'
> quit 2
>
> :DisplayFound
> ::	Set environment variables for specific X-Server instance.
> set DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:%DisplayNumber%
> echo `Found display `%DisplayNumber%` free, attempting to start
> X-Server as
> `%DISPLAY%
>
> ::	Startup the X Server on the specified display.
> start /B XWin :%DisplayNumber% -screen 0 1024 768 -indirect %1
>
> -----------------------------------------
> begin XWinIndirect.btm
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>
> Victor Atkinson
> Syracuse, NY, USA
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 5:28 PM
> > To: Victor Atkinson; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: RE: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under
> > v4.2.0?
> >
> >
> > Victor,
> >
> > > And I have also tried setting the display to alternate values:
> > >
> > > 	start /B XWin -display :0 -query 
> > > 	start /B XWin -display :1 -query 
> >
> > That is gibberish.  It doesn't mean anything.
> >
> > What you want is:
> >
> > start /B XWin-works :0 -query host1
> > start /B XWin-works :1 -query host2
> >
> >
> > I've tested this and gotten two distinct sessions to one machine (say,
> > host1) at the same time.  I don't currently have two XDM hosts,
> > but I'm sure
> > it will work fine with two hosts.
> >
> > Let me know how this works.
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Victor Atkinson
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 5:09 PM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Re: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under
> > > v4.2.0?
> > >
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > Thanks to all for the quick replies.  Unfortunately, I haven't
> > > been able to
> > > get a workable configuration together yet.  I have tried both
> > combinations
> > > of screen 0 & 1 designations with XWin:
> > >
> > > Separate invocations:
> > >
> > > 	start /B XWin -screen 0   -query 
> > > 	start /B XWin -screen 1   -query 
> > >
> > > Single invocation:
> > >
> > > 	start /B XWin -screen 0   -query 
> > > -screen 1 
> > >  -query 
> > >
> > > And I have also tried setting the display to alternate values:
> > >
> > > 	start /B XWin -display :0 -query 
> > > 	start /B XWin -display :1 -query 
> > >
> > > as well as all combinations of display & screen (0.0, 1.0, 1.1,
> > > etc) for the
> > > two sessions, both via the command line and the DISPLAY environment
> > > variable.
> > >
> > > The results are almost always identical, first XWin starts and
> > connects to
> > > host1.  However, when the second server starts, the first screen
> > > appears to
> > > be reset to and empty X server session (just blank
> background) while the
> > > second server connects to host2.  When I am finished with host2
> > > and quit the
> > > second session (close the window), then the first session gives
> > me a login
> > > prompt at host1 again.
> > >
> > > It appears as though there is some hardwired common display
> > > behavior that is
> > > common among all server instances, even if they are started
> > from separate
> > > XWin processes.
> > >
> > > I'll keep plugging away at it.  I did setup VNC on the remote
> > hosts again,
> > > to do what I needed to do simultaneously on host1 and host2.
> > It does seem
> > > that VNC is much more of a bandwidth and processor load than
> > > XFree86, which
> > > doesn't really surprise me.  (If my remote host screen saver
> > > kicks in within
> > > a VNC client window, it nearly brings my laptop to its knees,
> but in the
> > > same circumstance XFree86 is smooth.)
> > >
> > > Victor Atkinson
> > > Syracuse, NY, USA
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Staf Verhaegen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Use a different screen number for every session
> > > > > % XWin -screen 0 width height -query host1 &
> > > > > % XWin -screen 1 width height -query host2 &
> > > > > % ...
> > > >
> > > > I don't expect this to work. Both will try to listen on
> port 6000. You
> > > have
> > > > to modify the _display_ not the _screen_number.
> > > >
> > > > bye
> > > > 	ago
> > > > --
> > > >  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
> > > >  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
> > > >  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Which XWin engine is "best"?
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268322B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Genisio [mailto:briangenisio@yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:09 PM
> To: James Tetazoo; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: Which XWin engine is "best"?
> 
> 
> Dont use NativeGDI, because it is a development engine...
> If you have DirectX 4 or greater, use DirectDraw4... most 
> people do, and it is faster than the old standby of DirectDraw.
> 
> Either DirectDraw engine will work, but if you can use 
> DirectDraw4, then do it.
> 
> PS (to the rest of the group).  If I got anything wrong, 
> please correct me.
> 

Thanks.  That is what I was going to write,

Suhaib

> Brian
> 
> 
> --- James Tetazoo  wrote:
> > There seems to be precious little documentation on exactly what
> > differentiates one XWin engine from the other (ie. GDI, DirectDraw, 
> > DirectDraw4, NativeGDI).  This makes it impossible to 
> determine which engine 
> > it the "best" one to use under which circumstances.
> > 
> > I'd appreciate it if someone could shed a little light on this 
> > subject.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > 
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From tzafrir@technion.ac.il  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: tzafrir@technion.ac.il (Tzafrir Cohen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:

> Darryl,
>
> If at all possible, as a diagnostic test you should connect only the two
> computers in question together on a seperate test network, making sure to

[snip]

A simpler suggestion:

telnet to port 6000 of the windows machine from the linux server.

A connection should be established (whatever the X configuration is). If
no connection is established then something is wrong.

To see that a connection is established with the standard unix tellnet:

$ telent windows_machine 6000
Trying ...
Connected to 
References: 
Message-ID: <1013774155.566.7.camel@bridge>

Em Qui, 2002-02-14 ?s 23:20, Harold Hunt escreveu:
    Claudemir,
    
    It will be implemented as soon as you finish it.
    
    No one on the project has offered their time to complete that feature.
    
    The feature has been on the To-Do List for a long time:
    http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/todo.html
    
    We get about one request per week for this feature, so I am sure that many
    people would be grateful if you implemented it.

Unfortunately I'm not such a good developer to doing this, since I do
not develop anything for windows for a very long time, and even when I
did that, they were simple and small applications. And to make things
worse, I do not have the needed expertise on WM programming (even on
Unix) to do this.

If you find someone that can do this (maybe one of the other people that
requested this feature), I'll be glad to test it, and if I can reach the
needed knowledge, to help on coding it. But in no way I can be the head
of this thing...

Best Regards,
-- 
Claudemir Todo Bom
devel@wiredway.com.br
http://www.wiredway.com.br/~allgood
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From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file
In-Reply-To: <20020110021942.25656.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <006201c199b8$a155c6f0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>

>
>
> Hi Ralf,
>
> So ok, but...
> Could you tell me what packages put files in other
> places
> than /opt/kde ?
> I hate the idea of put files everywhere in my tree...

General KDE will be installed in /usr/local/kde1 (kde1) or (currently) /opt/kde2 (kde2).
Especially the kde installation may be changed due to some requirements like cygwin style
guide, but I think I will not be /usr/bin because of the number of dll's and exe (>200).
Perhaps it will be /usr/local/kde2 or so.

There are some basic libs like qt, libxml2, audiofile and may be some other, which are be
installed in /usr/local/... because they are not part of the official cygwin release. If
these package will be introduced
in the cygwin release, it may be changed to /usr.

For example I've seen that libxml is going to be a part of the cygwin release. This will
propably be installed in /usr/bin and /usr/lib and /usr/include/libxml or so.

Thats all.

Ralf


>
>  --- Ralf Habacker  a
> ??crit??: > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of
> > Sylvain Petreolle
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 6:41 PM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I would install Kde 2.2.1 and i didn't find
> > > the setup.ini file on
> > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/kde-cygwin.
> > >
> > > Where could I download it ?
> > >
> > The alpha release of kde 2.2.1 does not support
> > downloading with setup.exe/setup.ini.
> >
> > You have to download each archive and the related
> > updates/patches. Read the relating README's
> > for more information about installing and so on.
> > I think the beta release would support this. Perhaps
> > if no reaons speek against, it will be
> > released with the
> > cygwin mirroring network.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Ralf
> >
> >
>
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DirectDrawCreate
In-Reply-To: <095601c1b47c$be9c6730$0200a8c0@lifelesswks>
Message-ID: 

> Have a look at autoload.c in the cygwin sources or the setup.exe
> sources.
>
> It provides a symbol to link to for the linker, but doesn't resolve the
> .dll until runtime.

Well, that's okay too, but w32api shouldn't be doing things that break
perfectly legitimate calls to Win32 functions.

Harold


From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xwinclip comment
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020123123347.88735.qmail@web20801.mail.yahoo.com>

Well, I havent seen the code in a while, but I assume that you you use a
standard X event loop...

while(!done)
{
  wait_for_events()
  if(is_property_notify)
    read_and_handle_property()
  send_event_to_x()
}

Might you, instead, change this from event driven to polling?

while(!done)
{
  read_property()
  if(new_property != known_property)
    copy_property()
  sleep
}

This way, you dont need to register for events on the property.

You could sleep for 250 ms for instance, which, in worst case, is probably long
enough. (warning : usleep() is not thread safe, so you could probably use
signals to handle a timeout).  OR, you could throw this into xt, and use the
timout capability, but that seems like too much for too little.  Also, dont
forget to use semaphores when copying (and reading from the windows thread) the
known_property.


I hope this helps in the brainstorming process, at least,
Brian



--- Harold Hunt  wrote:
> Josh,
> 
> Originally, I was going to answer your suggestion of using separate threads
> with the boilerplate response that, "threads don't fix anything, and they
> usually just complicate things".  However, I started thinking about the
> problem, and it turns out that threads are pretty useful in this
> circumstance.
> 
> The reason that xwinclip steals the XA_PRIMARY selection as soon as a client
> (xterm) modifies that selection is that xwinclip needs to be the owner of
> the XA_PRIMARY selection in order to receive notification when the selection
> is updated.  If xwinclip doesn't receive notification of a selection update,
> then xwinclip can't copy the new selection data to the Windows clipboard.
> The end result would be that you would select data in an X client, but that
> data would not be available in Windows.  Actually, the first time that you
> select data in an X client it would be available in Windows (as xwinclip
> would receive notification upon losing ownership of XA_PRIMARY), however,
> subsequent modifications of XA_PRIMARY by either the same X client or
> another X client would not cause xwinclip to be notified, thus preventing
> the subsequent selections from being available in Windows.
> 
> I went ahead and rewrote xwinclip using threads.  Threads make xwinclip a
> little less kludgy, but, unfortunately, they don't solve the problem
> described above.  That is, we still need a way for xwinclip to be notified
> when *any* X client modifies XA_PRIMARY, not just when xwinclip loses
> ownership of XA_PRIMARY because an X client has modified it.  Only then will
> xwinclip be able to stop stealing ownership of the XA_PRIMARY selection.
> 
> It is possible that a simple solution exists... but I haven't yet come
> across it.  I'm sure Alan H. will email me immediately afterwards with a
> suggestion :)
> 
> Hope that helps to explain the undesired behavior,
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Josh Baudhuin [mailto:joshb@cadence.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:48 PM
> > To: huntharo@msu.edu
> > Subject: xwinclip comment
> >
> >
> > Hi, Harold
> >
> >    Thanks for the xwinclip--I just came across it yesterday and am
> > (mostly!) lovin' it. The sole complaint I have is that it seems to
> > hijack the selection immediately after it's established in another X
> > app. Thus, for example, if I select something in an XTerm, the highlight
> > vanishes after I let go of the mouse button.
> >    Is this something that requires integration w/ the X server app? Or
> > is the problem that you need to avoid having two event loops (one for X
> > and one for Windoze)? You might try putting them in separate threads, in
> > case of the latter...
> >
> > --Josh
> 


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From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Win XP and xfree86 : Part 2
Message-ID: <20020316195038.78499.qmail@web20802.mail.yahoo.com>

Once again, please direct all X questions to the xfree mailing list.

What are you asking?  The response you got has to do with how someone is using
cygwin and xfree as their X-Windows server to do remote admin.  This is pretty
much what you want to do, minus the admin part.  It is probably a bit more
complicated than you are interested in, but ... what is the question?

Sorry.  I am confused by this all.  The xfree/cygwin website tells you how to
do it all : http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/.  If you want to run more, take a
look at ported software section :
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ported-software.html. It includes extra apps and
windows managers.

Regardless, you do not need to recompile anything yourself.  All the packages
exist.  You simply need to download them, and install them as per the
instructions, and the instructions are made to be extremely easy.

Brian


--- "J.Wood"  wrote:
>     Hello Brian ,
>
>
>              I asked somewhere on the internet for information on trying to
> get X-Windows to run XP .
>
>
>             I thought you might be interested (amused) by the reply  ; apart
> from the 'english' , what do you
>
>            make of it ?.
>
>
>                       Regards ,
>
>                      Jim Wood
>
>
> well just to boost about my most excellent install on winxp prof:
>
> I have a 2x750P3 (smp) and i recompiled the cygwin, bash, rxvt and other
> packages that i commonly use.  this boosts the executables speed
> performance up quite a bit from the standard compiled for i386 platform.
> (i payed for a P3 cpu's.  as such, i want to use em!)
>
> I then use ssh to log into my remote box thru rxvt (using bash).  I have
> my rxvt setup to use the Lucida Console font.  Note: you do not need a
> functional Xfree to run rxvt window as it is compiled with cygwin and
> will run without xfree86 started (very nice indeed! a nice cmd
> replacement!!)
>
> If you get as far as to install Xfree86 install (i compiled from
> source), then i would suggest you grabbing blackbox from sf.net.  I
> compiled blackbox on my platform without problems, then again, i already
> had allot of the gnome stuff already hacked & installed (...so blackbox
> was like candy to install).
>
> I rarely use Xfree86/blackbox in winxp but it sure is a kick to run in
> windows xp!  I'm trying to hack/compile/port NT XDownloader but there
> are some very minor hangups.  It's an excellent download manager that
> would be kick butt if i could get it running under cygwin.  Gimp & Xsane
> are already mostly ported as well and I use these as well.
>
> To find out how to install gnome packages, do a search on google.com for
> cygwin > gnome and your sure to pull up somebody's site whom is logging
> his gnome install experience in some detail.=20
>
> (sorry for the lack of info but i'm within my native linux enviroment
> and don't have the info at hand.  i just thought i'd pass on this info
> for others to drool over.)
>
> Basically, i use cygwin for remote maintenance of my server if i'm ever
> in windows.  also, if i have to do allot of file handling on my windows
> partitions, i like the ease and flow of bash and linux tools to work
> with files within a rxvt window. I also use cygwin to compile win32
> stuff with gcc.
>
> Roger
> -----
>


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Unable to type letters in login to AIX box using XFree86 4.2.0 on W2K
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Pavel,

> To Harold: I think this should be included in FAQ (and fixed, if you have
> an AIX machine to test it :-)))

This is the first that I have heard of the problem.  I need the problem to
be described in more detail before I can add an entry to the FAQ.  I need to
know how to reproduce the problem (even though I don't have an AIX machine),
I need to know who is affected, and I need to know the exact command-line
for the remedy (and I mean exact!).  (For example, 'use the -kb parameter'
does not help me because I don't know if you need to pass options to -kb,
etc.)

Here's a couple of questions:

1) What keyboard layout is AIX expecting?  In other words, does this happen
on AIX when using US-English as the default keyboard layout, or does this
only happen when AIX is using a non-US keyboard layout?

2) What keyboard layout is the Windows machine using?  In other words, does
this happen regardless of the keyboard layout on the Windows machine, or
does this only occur when the Windows machine is using a non-US layout?
(I'm asking this because I saw AltGr mentioned.)

3) Are there any links to web sites that discuss this problem in more
detail?  Or, is this only a problem when using XFree86 on Windows?

Thanks in advance,

Harold

P.S.  I'll most likely put your name on the FAQ entry if you contribute
enough information for me to document the problem.  (Otherwise, I won't be
able to make a FAQ entry at all...)


From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Exiting xfree
Message-ID: 

One problem I have when I run xfree in Windows mode (which I prefer), is
that sometimes I accidentally hit the exit button in the upper right
hand corner of the my Cygwin/Xfree window. This sometimes causes me to
loose work. I know that a way of avoiding this is to use the fullscreen
flag with XWin.exe. However, I prefer to run in a window, so my question
is whether there is a way to disable the windows exit button so that the
only way to exit is with Alt-F4? (Using the nowinkill flag doesn't help here.)

Thanks,
Lars.

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From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 4.2.0
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

> XFree86-100dpi-fonts
> XFree86
> XFree86-75dpi-fonts
> XFree86-cyrillic-fonts
> XFree86-devel
> XFree86-doc
> XFree86-glide-module
> XFree86-libs
> XFree86-server
> XFree86-static-libs
> XFree86-xfs
> XFree86-Xnest
> XFree86-Xvfb

looks good to me

> But the most important is to separate the X server to another package from
> The X clients. 

this is of course the preferred way. You don't need the server on a compute
server and nearly no X11 libs on a terminal. 

bye
	ago
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From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: strange behavior
In-Reply-To: <3C6620DA.6050107@ridgecrest.ca.us>
Message-ID: 

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Tom Bozack wrote:

> Something really strange happens when I do a xhost + command.  The X 
> display is immediately taken over by the xdmcp login window to my 
> Mandrake Linux machine on the LAN.  I can then login to the KDE and do 
> anything I can on the local display.  In a way this is good news since 
> I've been trying to get xdmcp to work using "XWin.exe -query 
> remote_host_ip -from local_host_ip" with only partial success.
> 
> This leads me to beleive there's a bug in XWin when using xdmcp realting 
> to client access to the server.  xhost + "fixes" the access problem, but 
> causes the strange result of displaying the remote login screen.
> 
> Or am I just missing something basic?  Could someone let me know if 
> there is a logical explanation for this.

You have not started XWin with the -query parameter?

Then xdmcp is querying you host explicitly and with xhost+ you gave it
the right to access it. To turn of the query, check the Xservers config 
file of xdm

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From roland@steeltorch.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: roland@steeltorch.com (roland@steeltorch.com)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X browser
In-Reply-To: <20020125154041.A5152@nimbus.dmillard.com>
Message-ID: 

I wanted to do something similar.  You can try Dillo, which after I got
GTK and GLIB installed compiled without a problem. You'll find it "alpha"
quality and not really that useable however.

http://dillo.sourceforge.net/

A note to those who question why (a rant somewhat, so please take with a
grain of salt):
	Sometimes it doesn't matter why.  Sure, we could just use IE,
Mozilla directly, but that wasn't the question posed and is quite obvious,
so it's much more effective to just answer the question to the best of
your abilities if you feel like contributing.  People have all sorts of
reasons, and even the stupid reasons are valid for that person.  It's a
relative thing, perhaps akin to matters of faith in its personal nature.

As far as non-graphical browsers go, I know someone has gotten w3m
compiled and working nicely in an xterm (mouse support, frames, ssl,
cookies, etc).  this is a really nice terminal browser, but I feel sure
you meant graphical browsers.

Incidentally, check the mailing list archives before posting.
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q4/msg00571.html

-rgm




 On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Phil
Humpherys wrote:

> I'd sure like to get an X browser running in xfree.  I don't seem to be
> able to get netscape or mozilla to work in cygwin-xfree.
>
> Any suggestion?  Thanks in advance.
>


From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: getting xfree86 to work without the whole cygwin package
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831FD@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>

Officially we do not encourage users to do it because it is tricky.
However, some users have done it.  You need to search mail archive.  You
will find the answers.

Suhaib

> -----Original Message-----
> From: J S [mailto:vervoom@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:25 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: getting xfree86 to work without the whole cygwin package
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've been asked to create an xfree86 package at work which can be
> installed
> without having to install cygwin as well. I realise I will need the
> cygwin.dll to even have a chance of getting this to work, but wondered
> if
> anyone could tell me which other components I would need to build
> this?
> 
> JS.
> 
> 
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From Dautrevaux@microprocess.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Dautrevaux@microprocess.com (Bernard Dautrevaux)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: proper version of dll
Message-ID: <17B78BDF120BD411B70100500422FC6309E45B@IIS000>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suhaib Siddiqi [mailto:ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:21 PM
> To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
> Cc: 'cygwin@cygwin.com'
> Subject: RE: proper version of dll
> 
> 
> Wrong mailing list,  I forwarded your message to cygwin mailing list
> 
> > 
> > Hello Sir,
> > 
> > I am finding problem with not having the proper version of 
> > cygwin.dll. 
> > If I install the cygwi, from the "www.cygwin.com", I get the 
> > file cygwin1.dll and not cygwin.dll. My application needs cygwin.dll
> > 
> > This is the error I get when I run my application under bash.
> > 
> > Z:\1200\tools\ekmdc_pc.exe: *** cygwin DLL and APP are out of 
> > sync -- DLL version mismatch 17 < 19

Looks like your APP was compile very far ago, back in the heroic cygwin-B17
days 8-0)

The best you can do is recompile it using th eup-to-date cygwin development
environment; it is MUCH more stable than the old B17 one. 

> > 
> > Can you please tell me how can I get the proper version of 
> > the cygwin.dll required for my application.

I'm afraid you can't, if you don't save cygwin-B17 together with the
compiled APP. ;-(

HTH

	Bernard

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From gp@familiehaase.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: gp@familiehaase.de (Gerrit P. Haase)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Missing File Xvar.tgz on mirror
In-Reply-To: <20020306174645.IWT14955.tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209\.226\.175\.20]>
References: <20020306174645.IWT14955.tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209.226.175.20]>
Message-ID: <39892790574.20020306203858@familiehaase.de>

Hallo egon,

Am 2002-03-06 um 18:46 schriebst du:

> The Mirror subtree:

> mirrors.rcn.net
> mirrors/sources.redhat.com/cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0

> is missing the file Xvar.tgz

> I picked it up from 
> /mirrors/sources.redhat.com/cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.1.0/Xvar.tgz

> maybe it will work, maybe i won't? In anycase could you drop the correct file 
> in the subtree.

Sure does this work;)  The only content in this file is one text file
and two empty dirtectories (lib/xdm & lib/xkb) and in the file is written
this:


The X server uses this directory to store the compiled version of the
current keymap and/or any scratch keymaps used by clients.  The X server
or some other tool might destroy or replace the files in this directory,
so it is not a safe place to store compiled keymaps for long periods of
time.  The default keymap for any server is usually stored in:
     X-default.xkm
where  is the display number of the server in question, which makes
it possible for several servers *on the same host* to share the same 
directory.

Unless the X server is modified, sharing this directory between servers on
different hosts could cause problems.



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From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020312181600.GA7500@redhat.com> 
Message-ID: <20020312194635.GB8592@redhat.com>

On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 01:43:11PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
>>>Those are some very interesting results.  I especially like the ones
>>>where Cygwin is 10 to 1000 times slower than Linux :) Oh well...  I
>>>can't bitch anymore for fear of obligating myself to contribute to
>>>Cygwin proper.
>>
>>Hopefully, it stupefyingly obvious why cygwin is slower than linux.
>
>Yes, but it is also stupefyingly obvious that with a lot of hard work
>certain functions can be sped up, like the speed up done with certain
>types of fork calls.

Do you have even a tiny bit of information about these "certain
functions" that you'd like to impart?  Or is this an even higher level
version of the "I don't see why they don't..."

I'm really surprised to see this attitude.  It's quite disappointing.

cgf


From nicolae_santean@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nicolae_santean@hotmail.com (Nicolae Santean)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xdvi finally solved !
Message-ID: 


I've finally made it: xdvi runs okay under cygwin+XFree86!

Needed a code change in the way read() is called by
mk_pk_get_results() in font_open.c

If you are interested in binaries/details, contact me at

grail@csd.uwo.ca         or
nicolae_santean@hotmail.com

Thanks for your help, folks!

Cordially,

Nic. Santean

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From cpraber@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cpraber@yahoo.com (Raber Chris)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: remote xterm hangs when commands produce lots of 
Message-ID: <20020111145619.88784.qmail@web13503.mail.yahoo.com>

>I do not think so.  If you can find the cause of this
>problem, we maybe able
>to fix it.

>Suhaib

The only thing I can offer is it seems to happen when
lots of stdout output happens "fast".

If I do some shell command that produces a little
output, no problem. If I do some command that products
"lots" of output, really "fast" then the remote xterm
hangs.

Again I don't have this problem if I telnet into the
remote site with a local xterm and issue the same commands.

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From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: XWin w2k xdmcp-query - no valid address
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

n Wed, 6 Feb 2002 Ralf.Boetnagel@dvg.de wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> thanks again - for the fast response.
> 
> Exceed runs just fine. I do have a TR-Card which is active, a deactivated
> Ethernet-Card (no connection to network) and a loopback device. No problems
> with Exceed there, tho.
> I do not have any tunneling device enabled.

Exceed uses an own interface for querying the network devices. Cygwin-xfree
uses the unix layer provided by cygwin1.dll. An in this layer, tokenring
is not handled. 
> 
> ls_netdev says:
> 
> (the from-option should take care of the missing IP-Addr. imo)
> 
> A101188@W0010B3D:/tmp/ls_netdev>./ls_netdev
> OS Version: Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2
> Querying devices using ioctl

This is what cygwin reports 

> lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1
> eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0
> eth1: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0

> Querying devices using internal function

This is what the windows api reveals

eth0 (pgp)
> dwAddr=00000000 
    -> 0.0.0.0
> dwIndex=2
> dwMask=00000000
> dwBCastAddr=00000001
> dwReasmSize=65535

eth1 (fe575)
> dwAddr=00000000
    -> 0.0.0.0
> dwIndex=16777220
> dwMask=00000000
> dwBCastAddr=00000001
> dwReasmSize=65535

tok0 
> dwAddr=dcfdc906 
    ->6.201.253.220
> dwIndex=33554437
> dwMask=00f0ffff
> dwBCastAddr=00000001
> dwReasmSize=65535

lo
> dwAddr=0100007f
    ->127.0.0.1
> dwIndex=1
> dwMask=000000ff
> dwBCastAddr=00000001
> dwReasmSize=65535

Interfaces.

Loopback -> Handled as lo
> wszName=
> dwIndex=1
> dwType=24
> bDescr=MS TCP Loopback interface

eth0 (pgp)
> wszName=
> dwIndex=2
> dwType=6
> bDescr=PGPnet Virtual Identity Adapter

eth1 (fe575)
> wszName=
> dwIndex=16777220
> dwType=6
> bDescr=FE575 Ethernet Adapter

Tokenring adapter? 
> wszName=
> dwIndex=33554437
> dwType=9
> bDescr=MADGE_TR_MINIPORT_DRIVER: MDGNDIS5 5.95.90


> eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0
> eth1: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0
> lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1
is tok0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=6.201.253.220 correct?

If so then I can create support for tokenring in the cygwin library.

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From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Which XWin engine is "best"?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020108170921.2696.qmail@web20801.mail.yahoo.com>

Dont use NativeGDI, because it is a development engine...
If you have DirectX 4 or greater, use DirectDraw4... most people do, and it is
faster than the old standby of DirectDraw.

Either DirectDraw engine will work, but if you can use DirectDraw4, then do it.

PS (to the rest of the group).  If I got anything wrong, please correct me.

Brian


--- James Tetazoo  wrote:
> There seems to be precious little documentation on exactly what 
> differentiates one XWin engine from the other (ie. GDI, DirectDraw, 
> DirectDraw4, NativeGDI).  This makes it impossible to determine which engine 
> it the "best" one to use under which circumstances.
> 
> I'd appreciate it if someone could shed a little light on this subject.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
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From hobroj@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: hobroj@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com (James Hobro)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Wanted: MS-Windows Icon file with "X" icon...
References: 
Message-ID: <3C3DD550.5@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com>

The binary distribution of xemacs-21.4.6 for Windows (Cygwin version) 
comes with a nice X-Windows style "X" icon. You can get the distribution 
from http://www.xemacs.org/Download/win32/

James.


James Tetazoo wrote:

> Anyone know where I can get an MS-Windows icon file with the "X" 
> icon?  I have a shortcut on my Win2k desktop that I use to launch 
> XWin, and I want to set the icon to something appropriate.

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From agun@gmx.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: agun@gmx.net (jun)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: fixed font
In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683210@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683210@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: <20020228143744.6979BAC38@berlinwebmail.de>


> >
> > I've installed Cygwin 1.3.6 and xfree 4.1.0 on an XP
> > machine, but X fails to start saying that the fixed font
> > is missing. What does that mean? What can I do?
>
> It means you probably did not install fonts.  Did you follow exact
> instructions in the User's Guide?
>
> Suhaib
>
not necessarily. if the fonts are installed, they should be reinstalled and 
unpacked with WinZip or Powerarc.
maybe this was ment by Suhaib...


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From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: KDE under cygwin?
In-Reply-To: 
References: <7c.24070563.29b868d7@aol.com> <003d01c1c5b4$19b91670$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>  
Message-ID: <20020308162636.GK32086@redhat.com>

On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 08:59:41AM +0000, Chris January wrote:
>>>> Is anyone using KDE, KOffice, (especially)
>>>> KDevelop with Cygwin? I assume it
>>>> would need the qt library. Is this all workable?
>>>>
>>>Look at http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net. There are alpha
>>>releases of some kde packages
>I would appreciate any feedback you have regarding the KDevelop package on 
>that site (and kde-cygwin in general, for that matter). There is a mailing 
>list for kde-cygwin over at www.kde.org (kde-cygwin@kde.org). I think Chris 
>was a little unfair in blasting you for posting to the wrong list without 
>pointing you in the right direction.

"And this is the wrong mailing list for discussing KDE."

Wow.  What a scorcher.

And, 1) Ralf knows the right mailing list for these discussions, 2) I
redirected discussion to the right mailing list by setting the Reply-To
and changing my From address.

cgf


From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: briangenisio@yahoo.com
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020111175341.75579.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com>

Yeah... I didnt know for sure which ones did, and which ones didnt cause round
trip... I was simply giving examples.... Regardless, there are PLENTY of
round-trip messages in Netscape.  (xmond will show them.)

Pixmaps cause high net traffic, but arent effected as much by latency as they
are bandwidth.  A DSL Cable modem usually doesnt have a problem with the pixmap
transfer...  Unless there is a lot of pixmap transfer, such as annimation. 
Still, it is a straight push, and latency matters much less in these cases.

I have written applications that were able to load large pixmaps quickly across
DSL or Cablemodem, but have also written programs with too many XSync calls
(roundtrip wrapper that uses GetInputFocus), causing them to be unusable over
Cable or DSL... It all depends if the designer cared about round-trip or not.

Almost all Motif widgets use XSync calls, as well as calls that are not
streamlined for latency.  I would make a gross assumption that Netscape uses
Motif, or other widget sets that are probably not extremely efficient.

A possible help to the problem might be ssh X compression.  It does a bit for
pixmap transfer.  LBX also can help a little on latency... There is a plain old
X compressor out there as well... but I cant remember the name.

Brian


--- Alexander Gottwald  wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Brian Genisio wrote:
> 
> > OpenDisplay
> > CreateWindow
> 
> CreateWindow does not need Serverresponse. But the pixmap's needed for 
> Netscape cause the high traffic 
> > GetGC
> > GetFont
> 
> bye
> 	ago
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From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xserver crashes on kde 2.2.1's kate
In-Reply-To: <20020102095543.GB610@kar.berlin.frey.de>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Reinhard Karcher wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 10:45:04AM +0100, Ralf Habacker wrote
> > BTW: Can anyone tell me, when this patch will go into the official cygwin xfree release ?
> 
> IIRC, XFree86 4.2.0 is approaching. So, we wont't see any new 4.1.0 releases
> and we have to wait for 4.2.0

>From cvs-commit@xfree.org:

>From dawes@XFree86.Org Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:16:22 -0800 (PST)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:16:22 -0800 (PST)
From: David Dawes dawes@XFree86.Org
Subject: CVS Update: xc (branch: xf-4_1-branch)

CVSROOT:        /home/x-cvs
Module name:    xc
Changes by:     dawes@public.xfree86.org.       01/12/21 13:16:21

Log message:
  Update the version/date for the 4.1 branch, in preparation to tag a 4.1.0.1
  snapshot.  Note: this doesn't imply a 4.1.1 release will be coming.

So you see we'll have 4.1.0 around some time. Maybe we should have a note 
in the installation instructions that newer server releases are available.

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From m@blackandwhiterainbow.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: m@blackandwhiterainbow.com (matt rice)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: gnome-libs configure: error
References: <3C9771AF.2421.1B5E4439@localhost>
Message-ID: <3C97C4C0.5070401@blackandwhiterainbow.com>

http://www.sleepycat.com/

you'll need to
cd dist
./configure --enable-compat-185
Eli Kleinman wrote:
> Ok so I compiled gnome-libs-1.4.1.1 on cygwin but I got a error
> configure: error: Your db library is missing db 1.85 compatibility 
> mode
> 
> dose any one know whre I could find db 1.85 to download for 
> cygwin?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Eli 
> 
> 
> 





From freeweb@nyckelpiga.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: freeweb@nyckelpiga.de (Gerrit P. Haase)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: dillo-0.6.3
Message-ID: <2219723480.20020107155746@familiehaase.de>

Hallo,

I have uploaded dillo-0.6.3 http://dillo.sourceforge.net/
to my website.

Fetch your copy now:
http://familiehaase.de/cywgin/dillo/

This version requires Xfree86 for Cygwin && the
following Cygwin packages to be installed:
- jpeg
- png
- zlib
- libintl1

Also required (with shared libs):
- glib
- gtk+

Please see the xfree-cygwin archives for the patches of Steve
I used and the updated patch I made some weeks ago if you want
to build them yourself.

I use selfbuilt binaries, but there are some builds around
in the web which should work too.  Please report back to me if not.

After unpacking from the Cygwin root dir `/' the binary dillo.exe
lives in /usr/local/bin.

Then fire up X and type:
$ dillo &
at some prompt.

>From the README:

  Here's a list of some well known problems:

      * no FRAMES rendering
      * no cookies
      * no FTP
      * no https

Have fun!


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From szivan@bitbybit-is.nl  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: szivan@bitbybit-is.nl (Ivan Szanto)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: how to disable closing the X server using the close button?
Message-ID: 


Hi,



we'd like our users to use our product with the Cygwin/XFree86 server.
We tried it with good results, but we have the persistent problem
that our users sometimes accidentally click the close button on the 
Windows-window of the X server, which results in shutting down the
server as well as all the X clients. 

We'd like to prevent that. Is there a way to disable that close button?

I tried -nowinkill, and it changed the behavior of Alt-F4, but not that
of the close button.

Running the server in fullscreen mode would be an option, but we'd like
our users to be able to work with Windows applications (such as WinWord
and Excel) at the same time, and in that case, it would not be convenient
for them to constantly switch between the fullscreen X server and the
Windows applications. So preferably, we'd like our users to be able to
keep using the X server in windowed mode.


Thanks and greetings,

Ivan


From NikolayMetchev@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: NikolayMetchev@hotmail.com (Nikolay Metchev)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cannot start XServer
Message-ID: 

I have installed the 4.2.0 version of Cygwin/XFree86 on my Windows XP laptop
using a second monitor and when I tried to run the XServer a window of some
sort appeared and then disappeared leaving this message:
$ ./startxwin.bat
startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows NT/2000
XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server
"127.0.0.1:0.0"
XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server
"127.0.0.1:0.0"

      after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
      after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
      after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.

any ideas what I am doing wrong?


From rc_coit@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rc_coit@yahoo.com (Robert Coit)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: using print screen
Message-ID: <20020330020418.37364.qmail@web20802.mail.yahoo.com>

Why are the colors changed when i use print screen to
capture the image in an xwindow?

how do i get the actual colors?

TIA



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From eric.chastan@netcelo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: eric.chastan@netcelo.com (Eric Chastan)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xterm Xt error
Message-ID: <3C861E5C.8134CDD4@netcelo.com>

> Hi,
>     I'm installing cygwin/xfree. when i telnet from
> windows machine to linux machine then do
> "DISPLAY=192.168.1.26:0.0" and then do "export
> DISPLAY"
> and then do "xterm &" but when i do "xterm &" command
> i get this error:" xterm Xt error: Can't open display:
> 192.168.1.26:0.0 "
>
> PS: I can ping from windows machine to linux machine
> or viceversa.
> 192.168.1.26=IP for windows machine
>
> what can i do with this problem?
>
> Thanks
> payam
Hi,
I think you forgot to authorize your client to connect to your X server:

    - either with xhost
    - either with xauth.

1) xhost is unsecure because is only based on host name : simple way is
xhost + -> all X client can connect to your X server, you can specify a
host name to restrict access to only some host, and you can use a .xhost
file (man xhost for detail).
2) xauth is more secure but a bit more complex: your X server have a
secret information that X clients who want to connect must give to it.
This information is (by experience but I never read anything about this)
different each time the X server is starting and must be generate by
xauth: xauth generate $DISPLAY . at server start.
After that you must install the authorization information on your
clients with xauth on the clients, most common way is to lauch the
following remote command from your server for each clients:
    xauth extract - $DISPLAY | ssh login@client xauth merge - (this is
an exemple with ssh that is also the most secure way to do it but you
can use rsh or something similar).
On the client the xauthorizations are stored in a file named .Xauthority
(unless some special settings).
See man xauth for details.

Hope this help.
Eric.



From eric.chastan@netcelo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: eric.chastan@netcelo.com (Eric Chastan)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: building gnu emacs under xfree ?
Message-ID: <3C84EAA4.A2CEFDDB@netcelo.com>

Is someone allready manage to build emacs under xfree ?
Is someone have some tips on how doing it ?

Eric.


From Gilgamesh.Nootebos@erd.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Gilgamesh.Nootebos@erd.com (Gilgamesh Nootebos)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Windows based app.server
References: <200202061144.SM00180@lib15.denefield.org.uk> 
Message-ID: <012b01c1af09$2d603210$0201020a@POR026>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Markebo" 
To: "Chris Howells" 
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: Windows based app.server


> / "Chris Howells"  wrote:
> | However, has anybody tried the other way around -- having Windows
> | applications appearing on a Linux desktop, the Windows applications all
> | being run through a specific Windows (NT) based application server?
>
> Yep there is a proggy called vnc, that allows you to export your
> Windows-desktop to a machine which os has cvs exported to it.
>
>         /Andy

Citrix Metaframe (http://www.citrix.com ) sounds more like what Chris wants,
but it's not a low budget solution I think. The ICA client is supported on
virtually every major platform in use today. I haven't heard of similar
products using X yet.

Gilgamesh


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 Frequently Asked Questions -- typo
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Jeremiah,

> I did notice a recurring typo, though:  in sections 9.4-9.6, you
> have "whom"
> where you should have "who".

The word 'whom' is not a typo.  The usage of 'whom' is one of the finer
points of the English language.  I can assure you that I used it correctly,
as an interrogative.  The definition and usage of 'whom' is discussed at:
http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?whom

Thanks all the same,

Harold

P.S. A link to the sections in question:
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-copyright-cygwin-
xfree86

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremiah Kivi Shapiro [mailto:jeremiah_shapiro@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:15 PM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 Frequently Asked Questions -- typo
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Thanks for the Cygwin/XFree86 FAQ!  It's very handy, and one of
> the reasons
> I'll be giving the program(s?) a try.
>
> I did notice a recurring typo, though:  in sections 9.4-9.6, you
> have "whom"
> where you should have "who".
>
> Yours sincerely,
> Jeremiah


From Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com (Cary Jamison)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Log filling up
Message-ID: 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Gottwald
[mailto:alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 3:17 AM
Cc: Cygwin/X list (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Log filling up


On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Brian Genisio wrote:

> You could always redirect the log file to /dev/null ...

But this can only be done by patching the binary. Replace "/tmp/XWin.log"
"/dev/null\0log" (the \0 marks the character with ascii code 0.

bye
	ago
-- 
 Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017
-----End Original Message-----

Oh, you were saying to patch the binary, not the source.  I missed that at first and was wondering why you had the \0 in the middle of the string, now it makes sense.  That would be easier than fixing and recompiling the source, since I have only downloaded the binaries so far.

Cary

---
Cary Jamison
Cary.Jamison@PowerQuest.com
(801) 705-8685 voice
(801) 705-4685 fax


From orlolro@telocity.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: orlolro@telocity.com (Fernain Betancourt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Double (2) Questions
Message-ID: <20020106194933.29771.cpmta@c003.snv.cp.net>

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From gabrielarcos@cantv.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: gabrielarcos@cantv.net (Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Geomview on Cygwin+Xfree
References: <3C878CD9.1909CB6@imag.fr><003101c1c5b2$2edef9e0$0400000a@CANTV.NET> 
Message-ID: <000f01c1c5d2$3c28dec0$0400000a@CANTV.NET>

the last time I try it, the configuration was successfully, but when I try
to make it the linker stop it with errors. I think is a problem when trying
to link against dinamicaly linked libraries becouse lesstif and X11
libraries are static on cygwin.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Markebo" 
To: "Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta" 
Cc: "Georges-Pierre Bonneau" ;

Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Geomview on Cygwin+Xfree


> / "Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta"  wrote:
> | I try to compile but a can't. I will apreciate a cygwin-xfree binary
version
> | of geomview, or hints to get it compiled.
>
> How far have you come (could it be that you miss lesstif)?? This I
> think is more like a question for the geomview project.
>
> Try google ;-)
>
>         /Andy
>
> |
> | ----- Original Message -----
> | From: "Georges-Pierre Bonneau" 
> | To: 
> | Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 11:52 AM
> | Subject: Geomview on Cygwin+Xfree
> |
> |
> | > Hy,
> | >
> | > Does anyone have tried to compile geomview
> | > (http://sourceforge.net/projects/geomview) on cygwin-xfree?
> | > Would someone be interested by a cygwin-xfree version of geomview?
> | >
> | > Thks,
> | > -- GP
> |
> |
>
> --
>  The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DirectDrawCreate
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Alexander,

> So we have a bigger problem. We already link to ddraw.dll.
> Cygcheck reported
> for the old version:

Then that is a mistake.  I just #if0'd the calls to DirectDrawCreate and
DirectDrawCreateClipper in winpfbdd.c, winshaddd.c, and winshadddnl.c with
the result that cygcheck now reports:

$ cygcheck XWin.exe
Found: .\XWin.exe
.\XWin.exe
  C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll
    C:\WINNT\System32\KERNEL32.dll
      C:\WINNT\System32\NTDLL.DLL
  C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll
  C:\WINNT\System32\GDI32.dll
    C:\WINNT\System32\USER32.DLL
  C:\WINNT\System32\SHELL32.DLL
    C:\WINNT\System32\ADVAPI32.DLL
      C:\WINNT\System32\RPCRT4.DLL
    C:\WINNT\System32\SHLWAPI.DLL
      C:\WINNT\System32\msvcrt.dll
    C:\WINNT\System32\COMCTL32.DLL

Notice that ddraw.dll is not linked.  That is the way it should be.  We need
to replace the direct calls to DirectDrawCreate and DirectDrawCreateClipper
with the method using GetProcAddress.  That way we'll be able to safely run
on machines that do not have a dummy version of ddraw.dll (on the off chance
that this would ever happen).

> The only difference between
>
>     proc = GetProcAddress
>     (proc*)(...)
>
> and
>
>     proc(...)
>
> is that the second does not need the dll with the symbol on
> startup. And even
> if the symbol is not found in the dll, we still have the
> null-check and can
> (have to) skip the call to DirectDrawCreate.

Did you mean to say that the first method does not need the dll with the
symbol on startup?

The intention was to prevent ddraw.dll from being linked, so the idea was to
use the first method.  I messed up.  Oops.

In any case, w32api shouldn't be doing something that breaks the
GetProcAddress method, as that is a perfectly valid method.

Harold


From edi@serbski-institut.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86 work with Japanese characters?
In-Reply-To: <20020326164144.GA6601@redhat.com>
References: <20020326164144.GA6601@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20020326.184547.41637619.edi@serbski-institut.de>

For me (emacs/mew, mozilla, konqueror) it does.

Cheers

Edi


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86
In-Reply-To: <20020207194525.GI1323@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Angel,

Read the manual:

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-apps.html
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 2:45 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Cc: cygwin@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: xfree86
> 
> 
> Wrong mailing list.
> 
> cgf
> 
> On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 02:31:39PM -0500, Sosa, Angel wrote:
> >	I have a question about getting a session started with XFREE86 with
> >HP OpenView . I have succesfully installed on XFREE86 within CYGWIN. on
> >WIN2000. The products works rather well. (I take my hat off to the
> >programmer(s)). I would like to start a session with Openview. 
> It lives on a
> >Unix box running X as its graphical environment. I have read a lot the
> >information that is out their but I will admit I do not have even a good
> >clue on how to connect the two through an IP session. Can you help.
> >
> >
> >	Thanks in advance 
> >	Angel Sosa
> >	xtended@ameritech.net 
> >
> >--
> >Unsubscribe info:      http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
> >Bug reporting:         http://cygwin.com/bugs.html
> >Documentation:         http://cygwin.com/docs.html
> >FAQ:                   http://cygwin.com/faq/
> 
> -- 
> Please do not send me personal email with cygwin questions.
> Use the resources at http://cygwin.com/ .


From rob@chesler.absol.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rob@chesler.absol.com (Robert Chesler)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XTrap -- xcygwin libXETrap.a
Message-ID: <200202280105.g1S15Ff04013@chesler.absol.com>

Great job including the XTrap extension in the xcygwin binary release.
You are missing libXETrap.a - the XTrap client side library with which
you must have statically linked the XTrap sample clients?

Building the XTrap library requires some Xt internal header files hence
it would be a heck of a lot easier if you provided this library, or
perhaps you might include the functions of libXETrap.a within libXExt.a?

I'll be happy to contribute time to this effort if someone can help
me to reproduce your development build environment!

--Robert
inventor of XTrap from back in 1988 or so


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: ORBit install
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: O'BRIEN,STEVE (HP-UnitedKingdom,ex1) 

> The problem library in gnome-vfs, where there appears to be 
> problems with
> thread mutexes, although I really have not been able to debug 
> this at all.

Hi, 
	I'm the cygwin pthread maintainer. What seems to be the problem?


Rob


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: MI keyboard input - automatic repeat?
In-Reply-To: <20020219213248.B2658@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: 

Alan,

I tried that just now.  It didn't make any difference... which makes perfect
sense.

If you think about it, when a Windows message (keyup/keydown) is processed,
it gets removed from the Windows message queue, regardless of whether X
actually processes the resulting input event before the next Windows
messages is read.  I mean, you could pump the Windows messages queue in any
location you wanted to and it would never cause a processed message to be
processed again...

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:33 PM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: xoncygwin-devel; cygx
> Subject: Re: MI keyboard input - automatic repeat?
>
>
> Harold,
>
> Try disabling the BlockHandler, and leave input processing to the
> WakeupHandler. (you should be able to remove the blockhandler code
> actually - it may be entering two strokes into the input queue).
>
> Alan.
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 04:05:28PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
> > In regards to some users noticing duplicate key strokes upon
> switching into
> > and out of Cygwin/XFree86...
> >
> >
> > Do the MI keyboard input routines have some sort of automatic key repeat
> > feature?
> >
> > I have noticed the following behavior with the Native GDI
> engine, which is
> > extremely slow:
> >
> > 1) Open an xterm
> >
> > 2) Run 'xdpyinfo' to generate a few screens of output
> >
> > 3) Scroll xterm to the top of the output
> >
> > 4) Type 'exit' in the xterm.  This causes xterm to
> automatically scroll back
> > to the user input line, which takes a few seconds.
> >
> > 5) Notice that the xterm command line is 'eexit' not 'exit'.
> >
> > 6) This isn't a problem with xterm echoing part of the command late...
> > because if you press enter you get an error about 'eexit' not
> being found.
> >
> > 7) A similar sort of behavior can be exhibited by typing 'ls'
> followed by
> > enter.  In this case it takes 'ls' a second or two to do the directory
> > listing; when the listing is finished the xterm display two
> command lines
> > instead of just one (an extra enter causes the first one to
> execute nothing,
> > so a second one then appears).
> >
> >
> > I believe that this behavior is due to the MI keyboard input
> code looking at
> > the lag between the 'e' and 'enter' presses and releases, then
> it probably
> > is dividing by some sort of key-repeat interval to determine
> how many key
> > strokes to actually send.  This would also cause the extra keystrokes on
> > switching into and out of Cygwin/XFree86 that some people have noticed.
> >
> > Perhaps this functionality isn't part of MI at all... rather,
> it may be part
> > of a lower level that reads the input event queue that MI generates.
> >
> > The VNC project's method of handling user input is starting to
> make a lot
> > more sense:
> >
> > 1) Ignore WM_KEYUP/WM_SYSKEYUP messages.
> >
> > 2) In WM_KEYDOWN/WM_SYSKEYDOWN messages - discard mode key presses (Alt,
> > Ctrl, AltGr, Shift, etc.)
> >
> > 3) In WM_KEYDOWN/WM_SYSKEYDOWN messages - read the mode key states, send
> > down events for each pressed mode key, send the actual key down
> event, send
> > the actual key up event, then send key up events for each of the pressed
> > mode keys.
> >
> >
> > That system prevents the delay between processing the key down
> and key up
> > events from causing duplicate key presses when the server is very busy
> > between the key being pushed and the key being released.
> >
> >
> > What I need to know is:
> >
> > 1) Does this make sense to the other developers?
> >
> > 2) Is there actually some mechanism in X that is causing the
> simulated key
> > repeats?
> >
> > 3) Is there a way to disable any such mechanism in [3]?
> >
> > 4) Is someone willing to rework the keyboard input code to more closely
> > follow the VNC input code?
> >
> >
> > That's all for now,
> >
> > Harold


From kk@eq.ufrj.br  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: kk@eq.ufrj.br (Marcus Vinicius Eiffle Duarte)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Kylix Installation???
Message-ID: <003d01c19ac4$564a6c30$7747a492@eq.ufrj.br>

Hi, folks!

has anybody installed Kylix under Cygwin/XFree?
I tried running the installer, but it doesn't seem to like Cygwin, and it
fails to run complaining of the versions of gcc and a few libraries.
If anybody knows the way to get it running, I would like to know.

Thanks,

Marcus Vinicius Eiffle Duarte, M.Sc.

Escola de Qu??mica/UFRJ
Centro de Tecnologia, Bloco E, Lab. 113
Cidade Universit??ria, Rio de Janeiro, RJ, CEP 20949-900
Brasil
Tel: +55 21 2562-7622
eiffleduarte@ufrj.br
eiffleduarte@hotmail.com
ICQ # 20259520



From jmp@micromuse.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jmp@micromuse.com (Jean-Marc Paulin)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ?
References: <20020129115059.41932.qmail@web20809.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003201c1a8bd$ad574eb0$d527a8c0@CACHAREL>

OS: Win2000 SP2
How do I start the damn thing: startx from cygwin
I am running engine 4.2.0

I have attached the startup files I am using. The startx is the shipped one
with the defaultserverargs variable modified.

- Could that be linked to the dual CPU ?

Thanks

JM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Genisio" 
To: "Jean-Marc Paulin" ; 
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ?


> What OS?  How are you starting the X server?  What engine are you using?
I run
> with a PII 300 Mghz in Win2K, and it runs quite well.  Make sure you are
> running engine 4.  See the user's guide for more info :
>
> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/
>
>
> --- Jean-Marc Paulin  wrote:
> > Hi there
> >
> > I've just completed installing XFree...
> > Added the ice window manager (need full screen and 16 bits color depth,
but
> > fair enough).
> >
> > And the whole thing is running slow, really slow.
> >
> > Ok, this is not a trivial piece of code (it is quite impressive to be
> > honnest), but with a dual PIII 1Ghz, 1G of RAM, Matrox G450, I wouldn't
> > expect any perf problem.
> >
> > any ideas ?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > JM
> >
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions!
> http://auctions.yahoo.com
>
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From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: gnome-libs-1.4.1.1 configure: error please help
In-Reply-To: <3C987BFA.1786.1F6E7BF2@localhost>
References: <3C987BFA.1786.1F6E7BF2@localhost>
Message-ID: 

/ "Eli Kleinman"  wrote:
| Hello
| 
| I tried to compile on cygwin gnome-libs I got a configure: error
| This is the error
| 
| checking for __db185_open in -ldb-3... no

It seems to try db-3, db version 3?? if you have a libdb-4.* lying
around somewhere, maybe you should check why that isn't used..

Try temporarily renaming the libdb-3 file and clean up the configure
and redo it.

        /Andy

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020320052344.GB29506@redhat.com>

On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 04:13:06PM +1100, Robert Collins wrote:
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:cgf@redhat.com] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:40 PM
>> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>> Cc: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
>> Subject: Re: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are 
>> they called?)
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 11:27:18PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
>> >Okay, I mirrored the files: 
>> >http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/xbase-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
>> >http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/setup.hint
>> >http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/md5.sum
>..
>> I assume that these are just for people to play with but that 
>> will require a little bit of customization of local 
>> setup.ini's if you want to do anything useful.
>
>Harold...
>If I can be so bold, can I suggest that you add a setup.ini to the
>collection of files - just include the setup.hint contents (see
>http://www.cygwin.com/setup.html for the setup.ini format.

I don't see any reason to delay adopting XFree86 into the main setup.
So, lets not worry about customizing anything or offering alternate
setup.ini's.

cgf


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Scrolling error message from XWin server
In-Reply-To: <3C3A17C5.A81B0BA4@iqstor.com>
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Joseph I. Davida wrote:

> 	After starting the XWin server, from the cygwin dos window,
> 	by running xinit, XWin emits the following messages:
[...]
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
> > Error:            Can't find file "unknown" for geometry include
> >                   Exiting
> >                   Abandoning geometry file "(null)"
> Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server

Where does the xkb message result from. Were there some changes to the 
init scripts or is the server my configuration-test release?

If it's the configuration-test, please make sure you have the xkb files
installed.

bye
	ago
-- 
 Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017


From rc_coit@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rc_coit@yahoo.com (Robert Coit)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: using print screen
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020330123803.95954.qmail@web20802.mail.yahoo.com>

I saw those 8-bit captures and they look great.  But
what did they use to capture them?  If you use print
screen, the colors are completely distorted and
useless.

RC
--- Harold Hunt  wrote:
> If you're running at 8 bits per pixel, then you'll
> pretty much always have
> problems.  Just look at the screen captures on the
> website:
> 
> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/screenshots/
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of
> Robert Coit
> > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 9:04 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: using print screen
> >
> >
> > Why are the colors changed when i use print screen
> to
> > capture the image in an xwindow?
> >
> > how do i get the actual colors?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Greetings - send holiday greetings for
> Easter, Passover
> > http://greetings.yahoo.com/
> 


__________________________________________________
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From m@blackandwhiterainbow.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: m@blackandwhiterainbow.com (matt rice)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Installation on CD-Rom, Copying a whole installation
References: <20020317225326.7716B4A5D@flognat.myip.org> 
Message-ID: <3C965464.7000103@blackandwhiterainbow.com>

dont do that Andreas!! the XFree86 4.2.0 binaries can easily be 
converted into a cygwin installer package..

you need to do 2 things... create a cygwin package and create a hint 
file to install it...

download the cygwin binaries
uncompress them all...
this should convert the cygwin Xfree86 binary into a package usable by 
the installer.... (not that i've tested it)

mkdir -p /tmp/usr/X11R6
mv ./* /tmp/usr
cd /tmp
tar -C /tmp -czvf XPackage.tgz usr

create the setup.hint
the cygwin contributors guide: http://cygwin.com/setup.html

Note: you'll have to install packages from a local directory.



Andrew Markebo wrote:
> | - if all this is not possible, is there anybody out there who has written a 
> | nice installation-skript that installs xfree after cygwin is installed (this 
> | should not be too difficult for the average pupil) and can be edited to 
> | install some software too? If not, I will probably try to write one myself, 
> | but of course I??m not interested in reinventing the wheel...
> 
> The normal Xfree installation is done through a script  
>         [your fav. mirror]/cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0/Xinstall.sh
> 
> What to do I think is like throw a selection of the contents (and
> unpacked extract.exe.gz) of
>         [your fav. mirror]/cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0/ 
> and I think the students will survive running Xinstall.sh from there in
> their bash window.. 
> 
>         /Andy
> 





From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86
Message-ID: 

You have to ask such questions at the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list.

Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: Tagas [mailto:tagas96@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 9:02 PM
To: huntharo@msu.edu
Subject: XFree86


Hi,

I was reading through the mailing list after discovering i have the dreaded
IO error 104.  This is what you suggested to do:

"Sounds like you need to mount your drives in binary mode, and retry the
installation as the font files don't quite work right in text mode."

I tried typing mount -b -f as has been suggested to me but bash complains
that there aren't enough arguments in the command.  Since i am relatively
new to Unix, i was hoping that you could shed some light on what drives to
mount in binary mode, and how to execute the command.. i have read the help
in cygwin and on the net, but it doesn't seem applicable (btw, my XWin.log
is nearly exactly the same as the one that was posted on the net).

Thanks for any help in advance

Tagas


From sean@nutros.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: sean@nutros.com (Sean LeBlanc)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: IceWM?
Message-ID: <000001c1b0bb$c8edb8c0$1009a8c0@extrememotivation.com>

Earlier I asked about window managers - I'm trying to get IceWM working for
the time being.
I downloaded binary edition, changed startxwin.sh according to directions,
and run startxwin.sh.
The server comes up with a green background, and an xterm...but the xterm
doesn't look right
(no edges or title bar), and there is nothing else on the screen.  Any ideas
on what I'm doing wrong here?

Cheers,
Sean


From taarhaug@nuts.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: taarhaug@nuts.edu (Thor Anders Aarhaug)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfree and .Xauth
Message-ID: 

hi,

probably basic stuff, but I could not figure it out:

on a new xfree install 4.2.0 I have created a .Xauthority putting the
following in startx:

dd if=/dev/urandom count=1|md5sum|cut -f1 -d/|sed -e 's/^/add :0
. /'|xauth -q 

now, since -auth is defaulted I did nothing there.

listing the xauth file gives

COMPAQ/unix:0  MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1  7871d50d031031fe9a28883a93ef3304

display is set to:

$ echo $DISPLAY
:0

when I try to start the xserver I get the following error messages:

$ startx
1+0 records in
1+0 records out

Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified


waiting for X server to begin accepting connections .
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

..
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

and so on.


any suggestion on what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks,

TA



From elik@bhphotovideo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: elik@bhphotovideo.com (Eli Kleinman)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: gnome-libs-1.4.1.1 configure: error please help
Message-ID: <3C987BFA.1786.1F6E7BF2@localhost>

Hello

I tried to compile on cygwin gnome-libs I got a configure: error
This is the error

checking for __db185_open in -ldb-3... no
configure: error: Your db library is missing db 1.85 compatibility 
mode

I did  install db-4.0.14 and I am still getting this configure: error

If any one could tell me what to modify in the configure, or what to 
fix that I should be able to compile it

Thanks in advance
Eli



From Ralf.Boetnagel@dvg.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Boetnagel@dvg.de (Ralf.Boetnagel@dvg.de)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] XDMCP and tokenring
Message-ID: 


Thanks ! This works great now !

Bye          Ralf



From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: german keybord with Cygwin Xfree 86
In-Reply-To: <20020214.165426.41633160.edi@serbski-institut.de>
Message-ID: 

On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, PD Dr. Edward Wornar wrote:

> Unfortunately, not for me: It says
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp: Permission denied
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp: Permission denied
> and falls back to pre-XKB keymap. 
> 
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp.exe complains about not finding libX11.dll.
> Is that because I have XFree4.1?

Can you please add /usr/X11R6/bin to PATH? And please check if libX11.dll
is in /usr/X11R6/bin.

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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under v4.2.0?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Victor,

Yes, what you describe is supported... but there are some rough edges that
you will encounter.  The idea is that you start one X Server that runs
multiple screens, each connected to a different host.  The primary problem
that you will encounter is that sometimes the Windows mouse cursor is not
hidden or revealed correctly.

An example command line would be:

XWin -screen 0 1024 768 -query host1 -screen 1 1024 768 -query host2 -screen
2 640 480 -query host3

Unfortunately, you have to specify the width and height of each window (1024
width by 768 height, etc.) when using the -screen parameter.  All
screen-specific parameters that follow one -screen parameter will apply to
that screen only, until another -screen paramter is encountered.  Thus the
first -query parameter applies to screen 0, the second -query applies to
screen 1, etc.  The window will be made as large as will fit on the screen
if you specify a screen size that is as large or larger than the current
graphics mode (i.e. if you are running at 1024x768 then a 1024 768 or larger
screen parameter will create a window slightly smaller than 1024 768 to
account for the Start menu; increasing the parameter to 1280 1024 will not
create a larger window).

Hope that helps,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Victor Atkinson
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:49 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under
> v4.2.0?
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> I recently installed Cygwin and XFree86 v4.2.0 on my Windows 2000 laptop.
> My intent is to use it to remotely manage and use my small lab of 6 (and
> growing) PCs running RH Linux v7.2, from my office.  I am
> familiar with VNC,
> to the extent that I have set it up and used it for about a year.
>  However,
> I am always looking to simplify my installations as much as possible, and
> would like to maintain a more "native" approach, with as few daemons (e.g.
> vnc-server) as possible running on my Linux boxes.
>
> I have set up all of the Linux boxes to use xdm (well, gdm
> actually) and can
> start the XFree86 X Server on my Win2K laptop, and use -query and
> -indirect
> with XWin to connect to any desired Linux host.  This work very well.
>
> My question is:  Is it possible to create multiple simultaneous sessions,
> which are are resident in separate windows on my Win2K display, yet each
> connected to a different Linux host?  As it stands now, I must
> use a single
> server window, with which I can only sequentially log into one
> Linux machine
> at a time.  (I can get a second window up, by launching a second
> server with
> XWin, but it appears either inactive, or at best I can get clients to
> display, but not on the session that I want in any predictable fashion.)
>
> I have researched everything that I can find on X and the servers
> and client
> interactions at Red Hat, Linux Doc, your mailing list archives,
> Google, etc.
> I have also experimented with various methods of specifying the
> display and
> screen parameters to the X Server.  However, at this point, I am
> frustrated
> and out of ideas.
>
> Reading over the To-Do List, it seems as though this capability may not
> exist in Cygwin-Xfree86 yet.  However, the man files, and other
> documentation included with the Xfree86 package seem to indicate that this
> is all possible.
>
> Any guidance in this matter would be appreciated.  (I am working very hard
> on out engineers here to consider Linux as a much better way of
> getting our
> job done that Windows, and am looking at many different ways to ease the
> transition.)
>
> Thank you.
>
> Victor Atkinson
> Syracuse, NY, USA
>
>


From fftdsp@yahoo.com.cn  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: fftdsp@yahoo.com.cn (=?gb2312?q?Jerry=20uu?=)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: how to remove xfree
Message-ID: <20020105072353.50977.qmail@web15005.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>

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From vervoom@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: vervoom@hotmail.com (J S)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: transparent term for cygwin/xfree86
Message-ID: 

Hi,

Can anyone recommend a good term for cygwin/xfree86 that comes with 
transparency? I have got eterm and aterm to compile and run, but eterm is 
having problems with keyboard input, and aterm won't do transparency.

Rgds,

JS.

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From epconrad@acsu.buffalo.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: epconrad@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ed Conrad)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: "X connection to 127.0. ...explicit kill..."
References: <20020326014057.65843.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com> 
Message-ID: <3CA0641A.9786EDBF@acsu.buffalo.edu>

cygwin is installd.  This is a bug or somekind or config problem i have.

Andrew Markebo wrote:

> | If I try to run XWin.exe, it says that it cant find
> | cygwin1.dll.
>
> You need to install cygwin1.dll, check the installation instructions
> how to install cygwin.
>
>         /Andy
>
> --
>  The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file
References: <006201c199b8$a155c6f0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>
Message-ID: <015c01c199bb$25ea7120$0200a8c0@lifelesswks>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralf Habacker" 
>
> There are some basic libs like qt, libxml2, audiofile and may be some
other, which are be
> installed in /usr/local/... because they are not part of the official
cygwin release. If
> these package will be introduced
> in the cygwin release, it may be changed to /usr.

libxml2 is already in the cygwin release.

Rob


From darko.palic@gmx.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: darko.palic@gmx.de (Palic, Darko)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XFree without TCP
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Hi,

just add your adapter under your system, like an normal NIC.
Go to:
- Settings\control panel\add remove hardware
- add/troubleshoot a device
- add new device
- no, I want to select from list
- network adapters
- microsoft
- microsoft loopback adapter

Maybe you have to assign a address to your loopback nic. Use any address of
192.168.x.x with mask 255.255.255.0 or something similar, but use a private
address!

best regards,
Darko

PS: please mail always to the list, not directly to me!


> Where is Microsoft loopback device?
>
> Is it on net or under some windows subdir?


From darko.palic@gmx.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: darko.palic@gmx.de (Palic, Darko)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xterm ofer ssh to my local xfree/xwin on windows 2000 with umlaut-problems
In-Reply-To: <010601c1b3b4$353c3d30$580eb084@evel>
Message-ID: 

Hi,

take a look at
http://www-usercgi.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/index.php3?jump=xfree#modmap

best regards,
Darko


> But for example, I open in the ssh-bash an "xterm &" and the
> xterm opens on
> my localy xfree/cygwin, I have a different language in the xterm-bash.
>
> I cannot user the "??????" etc.
>
> When I make this with a booted linux on my side instead of
> windows and make
> a ssh and the x11-forwarding to my local linux-xfree, I have the german
> umlauts etc.
>
> How Do I get this running under cygwin?


From darko.palic@gmx.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: darko.palic@gmx.de (Palic, Darko)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Please help: XDMCP connection dog-slow
In-Reply-To: <20020322.102803.74731878.edi@serbski-institut.de>
Message-ID: 

Helo,

how do you connect to the mandrake? Via DNS names or via IP?
Then the login appears, are tere any differences in the performance during
the session?

best reards,
Darko

> Hello,
>
> sorry if this is a bit off-topic but I was unable to find information in
> the mailing-list archives/Howtos.
>
> I have a linux server (Mandrake 8.1) and several Windows clients
> running cygwin/xfree-4.1 (plus one linux client). On some of the
> win98 clients,
> XDMCP is *extremely* slow so it literary takes minutes to get the
> login screen
> and log in. They all are in my /etc/hosts file, they
> seem to have exactly the same protocols running, but while some react
> very snappily, others are extremely sluggish. Maybe anyone can give
> me a clue what might be wrong? (I am not familiar with
> TCP/IP interna, so I'm not capable of interpreting the output of
> tcpdump but I can mail it to anybody willing to help.)
>
> Cheers
>
> Edi
>


From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin xfree86 consumes memory
In-Reply-To: <3C4EC7D1.5E4B641@otpbank.hu>
References: <3C4EC7D1.5E4B641@otpbank.hu>
Message-ID: <20020123180224.GK6765@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 03:25:21PM +0100, Nagy Tibor wrote:
>Did somebody observed that Cygwin/Xfree86's memory usage suddenly
>increases, causing Windows getting slow?
>
>I start Cygwin/Xfree86 and 50 konsole (KDE console) in it. I see in
>Win98 performance monitor that CPU usage is 15%, memory usage is  70MB,
>free physical memory 20MB and swap file size is 30MB. Than I start 5
>konsoles more and sudenly CPU usage is 60%, memory usage is 96MB, free
>physical memory 0MB and swap file size is 280MB!!! and the whole system
>is getting very slow.
>
>What is this?

Haven't you seen the rumors?  Red Hat is being acquired by America Online
Memory (AOM).  All of our applications will now consume massive amounts
of memory as a matter of company policy.

So, please buy an extra gigabyte or so of RAM.  It will make us very happy.
Remember, all AOM RAM comes with a shiny installation CD complete with
100 hours of free memory access.

cgf

(Just to stave off the invevitable email:  No.  I'm not serious.)


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
In-Reply-To: <20020312181600.GA7500@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

> >Those are some very interesting results.  I especially like the ones
> >where Cygwin is 10 to 1000 times slower than Linux :) Oh well...  I
> >can't bitch anymore for fear of obligating myself to contribute to
> >Cygwin proper.
>
> Hopefully, it stupefyingly obvious why cygwin is slower than linux.

Yes, but it is also stupefyingly obvious that with a lot of hard work
certain functions can be sped up, like the speed up done with certain types
of fork calls.

Thus my statement that I had better shut up before someone suggests that I
spend a lot of time trying to speed things up.

Harold


From ssiddiqi@ssiddiqi.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@ssiddiqi.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Sourceforge lesstif binaries
In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2BB1E22@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C266AB89@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>


MOTIF 2.0 compatible, which is the default in Lesstif.
You download sorcecode, do ./configure --help to get options for
building MOTIF 1.2 compatible library, then compile it yourself.  It
compiles out of the box.

Suhaib

-----Original Message-----
From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
[mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Gabriel Antonio
Arcos Acosta
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 10:28 AM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Sourceforge lesstif binaries

 Anybody knows if lesstif binaries for cygwin on the sourceforge web
page
are Motif 1.2 compatible? if not, anybody knows where I can get it?



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From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: To-do Item...
Message-ID: <3C7668DE.90C6BD87@hotmail.com>

I've been using cygwin/xfree for some time and thought it was high time
I made a contribution.  I checked out your online to-do list
(http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/todo.html) and decided the first item,
"Release all keys when Cygwin/XFree86 loses focus", was a reasonable
place to start.

I believe I have arrived at a working solution.

So, the question is: How do I submit my fix for review by the
developers? (FYI. I only touched 1 file,
xc/programs/Xserver/xwin/winkeybd.c).

P.S. Perhaps this to-do item is moot in light of your recent note about
overhauling the keyboard event handling to more closely resemble the VNC
approach?


From cw@gamma-rs.ch  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cw@gamma-rs.ch (Charles L. Werner)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: setxkbmap failure with cygwin-xfree 4.2.0
Message-ID: <3C8729F1.6050600@gamma-rs.ch>

Greetings,

I have attempted to use setxkbmap to change the keyboard layout to a 
swiss-german layout. Just using the default layout leads to getting 
standard key codes within the XFree desktop apps (xterm...). Our 
installation is the latest 4.2.0 XFree86 , up to date cygwin 
installation (see output of cygcheck attached) under NT-4 sp5 and WIN2K. 
  With the command:

setxkbmap -layout de_CH

you get the setxkbmap error message:

Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property
Use defaults: rules - 'xfree86' model - 'pc101' layout - 'us'
Error loading new keyboard description

There was also a MS error box that popped up with the message:

Failed assertion
fds_on_hold !=NULL
at line 643 of file 
/cygnus/netrel/src/cygwin-1.3.10-1/winsup/cygwin/dtable.cc

I tried other arguments to setxkbmap but all give the same response, 
even using the default arguments. xkb files are in /etc/lib/X11/xkb

Any suggestions? is some environment variable wrongly set?

Thanks!

Charles


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From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Installing extra packages?
Message-ID: 

I juts tried to install Xf100.tgz on top of an initial xfree
installation. The instructions in the Install file supplied with xfree
4.2.0 says to install the fonts by using 

extract -C /usr/X11R6 Xf100.tgz

I tried this and get an error that extract needs more flags. Which flags
should I use to install extra packages?

Thanks,
Lars.

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From kesrin_h@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: kesrin_h@hotmail.com (Kesrin Hanprasert)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Question
Message-ID: 

Dear Sir/Madam
     I am learning about cygwin/Xfree86 because I use some model (use of C, 
Fortran and perl language) which must compile that on Window98 system.I 
loaded Cygwin/Xfree User's guide already and I try to follow that step by 
step.Now I have some question,Could you tell me?
    1. I install Cygwin/Xfree on Window98.In this case:
        -The native host is Window98,is't it?
        - The build host is Cygwin,is't it?
    2. In the case of compilling that model  according to use its on 
Window98,I must make cross-compiliing?
    3. In the cross-compile step,I have some problem which I can't open a 
shell of cross-compile according to build gcc and binutil for 
cross-compilling because I don't understand the instruction in the User's 
guide that "Open a shell".Could you tell me ,the method for open that?
     In my country ,nobody to recommend me about that,They use only pure 
Unix and Windows system.And it is the first time for me to use Cygwin/Xfree.
    Thank you very much for your kindness.
Best regards,
Ms.Kesrin Hanprasert
Thailand



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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 Documentation 0.9.6
Message-ID: 

Links:

I just posted release 0.9.6 to the documentation development page:
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/documentation/

Documentation, formatted, direct links:
Contributor's Guide http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg
User's Guide http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/
FAQ http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/

Documentation source releases are now available via the
sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network
(http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the
pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/documentation/ directory.  You may wish to
note the desired filename in the links below, then download from
your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html).

Documentation source, direct link:
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/docs/cygwin-xfree-doc-0.9.6.tar.gz (261
KiB)


Changes:

1) CG - Create the initial version of the Documentation chapter.

2) UG - Instruct the user to download extract.exe.gz instead of
extract.exe.bz2.  The bzip2 package is no longer installed by
default.  The simplest solution to the commonly reported problem of
bunzip2 not being present is to use gzip instead.

3) UG - Add more detailed information about each of the
&project;-specific command line parameters.

4) General - Move the Free Documentation License source to a common
location.

5) General - Add a global entities declaration file for entities
common to all documents.


Enjoy,

Harold


From bay@icesat2.gsfc.nasa.gov  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: bay@icesat2.gsfc.nasa.gov (John Bay)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: alternate display number
Message-ID: 

Is it possible to bring up the X server under a display number other than 0
(e.g. ...:1.0 instead of ...:0.0)?  This would be useful for those of us
with a home LAN talking to the internet through a router and forwarding
incoming X traffic based on port number.

--

Thanks,
John Bay


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: problem with keyobord on AIX 
Message-ID: 

Fiorenzo,

Don't tell me.  Tell the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list (I have cc'd the
mailing list).

I have pretty much said that I am not going to be working on keyboard
issues.  I don't have the time, nor would I derive any benefit from keyboard
code that works better with non-US keyboards or with AIX (because I don't
use either).

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fiorenzo Zanotti [mailto:zanottif@iside.bcc.it]
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 12:40 PM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Cc: pavel.rybnicek@intax.cz
> Subject: FW: problem with keyobord on AIX
>
>
> hi harold,
>
> I use Xwin to access AIX using an Italian Keyboard.
>
> At logon time one can choose the preferred language.
> Choosing Italian or Czech enable italian or czech keyboard extensions.
>
> I can give you some hints on what is happening on AIX.
>
> I've used "xev" to test the keyboard behaviour.
>
> It seems that XWin produce a wrong "state".
>
> State values reported by xev
>
> Key    	IBM   XWin
> ------ 	----- -----
> Shift		0x1	0x1
> Lock		0x2	0x2
> Ctrl		0x4	0x4
> AltL		0x8	0x8
> AltGr		0x10	0x2000
> numLock	0x80	0x10
>
> numlock on XWin produces the same state of ALTGR on IBM.
> This explain why no characters appears when numLock is on.
>
> I use this workaround:
> 1) numLock always off
> 2) after login or in .dtprofile use :
> "xmodmap -e 'keysym Mode_switch = Alt_R'"
>
> Hope this will help.
> hi.
> 	fiorenzo.
>


From chaokuo@iname.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: chaokuo@iname.com (Richard Lin)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: internet browser
Message-ID: <20020215095944.45260.qmail@iname.com>

What internet browsers do people use with cygwin-xfree?
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Darryl,

According to the Linux XMDCP HOWTO
(http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/gdm.html), the port number is
177, not 117.

I don't know what else to tell you.  Try using kdm instead.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Darryl Wagoner
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:03 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> I think I have followed all the directions, but all I get is a
> blank X screen with a pointer cursors.
>
> The request doesn't seem to be getting to the Linux system.
>
> I did a "tcpdump port 117" and I don't see any packets at all going
> to Linux.
>
> In the docs it says to change gdm.conf
>
> [xdmcp]
> Enable=1
>
> but all the other options have the Boolean true so I followed suit.
>
> [xdmcp]
> Enable=true
>
> I did do a netstat to make sure xdm was listening on the correct port.
>
> Is it possible that Xwin.exe is sending to a different port?
>
> thanks
>
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From agwilson@rhetorical.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: agwilson@rhetorical.com (Andrew G. Wilson)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: tweak to startxwin.bat
Message-ID: <3C96016B.9060902@rhetorical.com>

Just a quick note to whoever looks after the startup .bat file:

You can use the dos %VAR% to set the /B switch or not, thereby reusing 
the same commands for the nt/2000 as for 95/98.

cheers
Andrew


REM
REM Use the /B switch only when we can positively confirm that the OS
REM is Windows NT/2000.  Do not use the switch in any other case.  This
REM should work fine, as it assumes we cannot use /B, except when a
REM criteria is met.  A previous verion of this batch file assumed that
REM we could use /B, except when some criteria was met; needless to say,
REM that didn't work.
REM

	if "%OS%" == "Windows_NT" set USE_B=/B

REM Startup the X Server.

start %USE_B% XWin -screen 0 1152 864

REM Startup an xterm, using bash as the shell.

start %USE_B% xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -e /usr/bin/bash

REM Startup the twm window manager.

start %USE_B% twm


From nagyt@otpbank.hu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nagyt@otpbank.hu (Nagy Tibor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory
References: 
Message-ID: <3C51093C.4D153A6E@otpbank.hu>

Hi Harold,

you are right, the problem appears on Win98 with 64MB memory. I tried it
yesterday also on Win2000, however with 128MB memory, there wasn't any
problem. I'll try it also on Win98 with 128MB.

It is interesting also, that the keyboard LEDs (NumLock, CapsLock) do
not work on Win98 but they work on Win2000.

Tibor

Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> Tibor,
> 
> How much memory does your system have?  Give me a count of just the physical
> memory.  Also, let me know what version of Windows you are running.
> 
> It is correct that each window opened in XDMCP needs memory, but that is
> expected.  However, I'm running Windows 2000 and I opened 56 konsoles, but
> XWin.exe only took 18 MB of memory (according to Task Monitor).  I'm
> guessing that you're running Windows 95/98/Me, so the numbers that you are
> seeing are actually skewed (Task Monitor does a terrible job of reporting
> memory usage, but the tools in 95/98/Me are even worse).
> 
> Basically, I'm guessing that you don't have enough physical memory to be
> doing what you are trying to do.
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Nagy Tibor
> > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:26 AM
> > To: Harold Hunt
> > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory
> >
> >
> > Hi Harold,
> >
> > I am logging into KDE on a remote machine via XDMCP.
> >
> > Tibor
> >
> > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > >
> > > Nagy,
> > >
> > > Are you running KDE under Cygwin or are you logging into KDE on a remote
> > > machine via XMDCP?  I'm assuming that you are running KDE
> > locally.  In that
> > > case, you problem is most likely specific to KDE, not to Cygwin/XFree86.
> > > So, you're going to have to ask the kde-on-cygwin folks the
> > same question in
> > > order to get some answers.
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Nagy Tibor
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:25 AM
> > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > Subject: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Did somebody observed that Cygwin/Xfree86's memory usage suddenly
> > > > increases, causing Windows getting slow?
> > > >
> > > > I start Cygwin/Xfree86 and 50 konsole (KDE console) in it. I see in
> > > > Win98 performance monitor that CPU usage is 15%, memory usage
> > is  70MB,
> > > > free physical memory 20MB and swap file size is 30MB. Than I start 5
> > > > konsoles more and sudenly CPU usage is 60%, memory usage is 96MB, free
> > > > physical memory 0MB and swap file size is 280MB!!! and the
> > whole system
> > > > is getting very slow.
> > > >
> > > > What is this?
> > > >
> > > >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Tibor Nagy
> > > > E-mail: nagyt@otpbank.hu
> > > >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > --
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Tibor Nagy
> > Director of Card and Core Banking Systems Development Project
> > National Savings and Commercial Bank Ltd (OTP Bank)
> > H-1051 Budapest Nador u. 16.
> > Tel: 00 36 1 374 6990 Fax: 00 36 1 374 6981   E-mail: nagyt@otpbank.hu
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tibor Nagy
Director of Card and Core Banking Systems Development Project
National Savings and Commercial Bank Ltd (OTP Bank)
H-1051 Budapest Nador u. 16.
Tel: 00 36 1 374 6990	Fax: 00 36 1 374 6981	E-mail: nagyt@otpbank.hu
------------------------------------------------------------------------


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cannot start XServer
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020221231016.J2567@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

What does /tmp/XWin.log have to say ?

Alan.

On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 10:37:49PM -0000, Nikolay Metchev wrote:
> I sent the e-mail below .  I have been asked to provide additional
> information. I am using Windows XP. I have a TCP/IP LAN using internet
> connection sharing. I do not use Zone Alarm or any other personal firewall
> tool. I still get the error message listed below.
> 
> > I have installed the 4.2.0 version of Cygwin/XFree86 on my Windows XP
> laptop
> > using a second monitor and when I tried to run the XServer a window of
> some
> > sort appeared and then disappeared leaving this message:
> > $ ./startxwin.bat
> > startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows NT/2000
> > XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server
> > "127.0.0.1:0.0"
> > XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server
> > "127.0.0.1:0.0"
> >
> >       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
> >       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
> >       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
> >
> > any ideas what I am doing wrong?
> >


From cygwin@hack.kampbjorn.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin@hack.kampbjorn.com (Hack =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kampbj=F8rn?=)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Dose any one know if gnome works on cygwin?
References: <3C97100C.28922.19E0E160@localhost>
Message-ID: <3C975BFA.F598A492@hack.kampbjorn.com>

Eli Kleinman wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> I tried compiling gtk+2.0 on cygwin and I keep on getting errors did
> any one successfully compiled gnome on cygwin?

This is off-topic for the cygwin@cygwin.com list, redirected to
cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com. Please next time consider read the
documentation before posting.

http://cygwin.com/lists.html
cygwin: a high volume list for discussion of just about all things
Cygwin-related. If you have questions about how to use Cygwin, or if you
have cygwin-specific (see above) questions about the UNIX tools (bash,
gcc, make, etc.) that come with Cygwin, this is the list for you. There
are two exceptions to the "all things cygwin" nature of this list:
questions about the Cygwin/XFree86 project (or any X-related questions
for cygwin) should go to the cygwin-xfree mailing list (see below).
Also, questions about other Cygwin releases not downloaded from
http://cygwin.com/ or it's mirrors are also strongly discouraged. In
theory, there should be better forums for discussing non-Red Hat
sponsored releases.

> 
> Please help, Thanks in advance
> Eli

-- 
Med venlig hilsen / Kind regards

Hack Kampbj?rn


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: ssh2 in xterm problem
In-Reply-To: <200203140919.KAA24151@r2d2.physik3.gwdg.de>
Message-ID: 

Hans,

That sounds like normal behavior for Windows applications.  ssh2 would have
to be *specifically* designed in order to be usable from an xterm in
Cygwin/XFree86.  The reason that it runs in a Cygwin shell is that the
Cygwin shell is actually an MS command prompt that is running bash... but
the xterm is not an instance of an MS command prompt, so ssh2 no longer
runs.

I hope that makes sense.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Hans Werner Strube
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:19 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: ssh2 in xterm problem
>
>
> I have the Windows version of ssh2 (SSHWinClient-3.1.0-build235
> from ssh.com)
> installed. Besides the Windows GUI client, there is also a command line
> client ssh2. This works well from the Cygwin login shell. But when I call
> it from an xterm shell in XFree86-4.2.0, the password prompt appears not
> in this shell but in the login shell from which X was started. I tried to
> enter the password there but without any effect. When I enter the password
> in the xterm, it is echoed and has no effect either.
> What is the reason for this strange behaviour, and can it be circumvented?
> (Well, don't tell me I could install openssh; this seems to
> indicate a basic
> problem to be solved!)


From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
In-Reply-To: 
References: <002d01c1c9a0$1ce1b970$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> 
Message-ID: <20020312181600.GA7500@redhat.com>

On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 12:46:01PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
>Those are some very interesting results.  I especially like the ones
>where Cygwin is 10 to 1000 times slower than Linux :) Oh well...  I
>can't bitch anymore for fear of obligating myself to contribute to
>Cygwin proper.

Hopefully, it stupefyingly obvious why cygwin is slower than linux.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Alexander,

Because the following article:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/wcegmm/htm/
ddover_51.asp

states that:

"BltFast cannot be used on surfaces that have an attached clipper."

We use a clipper to account for any other Windows window overlaying our
window, which would cause a portion of our blit destiation to be
undrawable... which would mean that we wouldn't be allowed to use BltFast.

Now... could we use BltFast in DirectDraw fullscreen modes?  Probably... but
some coding would have to be done that prevents the clipper from being
allocated, and it would only give a (slight) performance boost if we wrote a
Windowed and FullScreen version of the shadow function (else we'd be doing
the if clipper test that Blt does but BltFast does not do).

I don't think that using BltFast would be worth the effort.  I'm going to
guess that you wouldn't see any measurable improvement, whatsoever.

But, you are welcome to try it...

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Alexander Gottwald
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 10:50 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com
> Subject: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there any reason why we use Blt instead of BltFast for copying the
> shadow surface. I just searched the MSDN and found this article
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/w
cegmm/htm/ddover_52.asp

bye
	ago
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From darko.palic@gmx.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: darko.palic@gmx.de (Palic, Darko)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Using XFree without any network connection
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Hi,

sure just follow the Harolds HowTo and you hava a standalone XFree!
Install your tools, or compile it yourself (under
http://www.cygwin.com/ported.html a list of already ported tools is
available)

best regards,
Darko

> Is it possible to use XFree86 for Cygwin without
> any network connection in single computer?
>
> If this is not, how *this* is possible,  if some want
> to develop X applications on home?
>
>                Janne Naukkarinen


From jpbostic@operations.ocs.ou.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jpbostic@operations.ocs.ou.edu (Jared P Bostic)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Windows based app.server
Message-ID: 


Brian Genisio wrote:

> I have looked at the code, and for fun, poked at it a bit.  I have
> gotten it to display a single window, instead of a full desktop.
> Possibly, this type of idea could be extended, and wrapped in a nice
> little spawining script, where if you wanted to run something... say
> MS Word, you could ship MS Word across your network to your X server.

Hey Brian,

OT a bit but, is there a way someone could get a look at those mods you
made? :-) :-)  BTW, has anyone tried displaying this remote svc (xwinx)
on cygwin/xfree86 (ie. windows to windows) with/without success?

Thanks,

Jared


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From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: question about XWin.exe
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831FE@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>

Open a Cygwin bash shell

Cd to /usr/X11R6/bin
Type ./startxwin.sh
And post the out of error messages from bash shell to the list.  You must
install the startup-script to use startxwin.sh or startxwin.bat files.

Suhaib

> -----Original Message-----
> From: fftdsp@yahoo.com.cn [mailto:fftdsp@yahoo.com.cn]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:21 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: question about XWin.exe
> 
> when i runing :
> XWin.exe -screen 0 800 600 -fullscreen -depth 32
> -refresh 85 -emulate3buttons 100 -nowinkill -unixkill
> 
> a gray window appeared
> and cygwin stop at
> WinCreateDefColormap()-Deferring to
> fbCreateDefColormap()
> 
> who can give me some advise,thank you!
> 
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From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xwinclip authorisation problem with remote hosts using XDMCP
In-Reply-To: <000b01c19d2d$b90164d0$2102a8c0@motile.net>
Message-ID: <20020114192529.7467.qmail@web20809.mail.yahoo.com>

What is your DISPLAY variable set to?  I am a bit confused, since one output
talks about a server going to 127.0.0.1:3.0 . If your X server is on :0,
xwinclip will never be able to connect, regardless of the authorities.

Will other local X programs run?  xterm, xeyes, xwininfo, etc?

Brian


--- Matthew Donald  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> There is a problem when using xwinclip with an X server which connects to a
> remote host using XDMCP.
> 
> Basically the sequence is this:
> 
> 1.  Execute "XWin :0 -query some.host.system".  Initially, the authorisation
> file contains no records, so the localhost
> has access to the X server by default.  I quote from the Xserver man page:
> 
>     If this file contains  any  authorization  records,  the
>     local  host  is  not  automatically  allowed access to the server, and
> only clients
>     which send one of the authorization records contained in the file in the
> connection
>     setup  information  will be allowed access.
> 
> 2.  XDMCP is used to query some.host.system, which then opens a connection
> to the local PC.  The first
> thing done is that XDMCP adds an auth record for some.host.system  This
> means that localhost loses access
> to the X server.
> 
> 3.  After XWin starts, xwinclip executes on the local host.  It fails with
> the error message: "Could not open display"
> 
> Ok, so I added an xhost command, to explicitly allow access:
> 
>     xhost +127.0.0.1
> 
> I failed with the error messages:
> 
>     Xlib: connection to "127.0.0.1:0.0" refused by server
>     Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
> 
> I read some more about host access, and I created a /etc/X0.hosts file, and
> I deleted the .Xauthority file.
> This caused a different error.  XWin failed with the message: "X connection
> to 127.0.0.1:3.0 broken
> (explicit kill or server shutdown)."
> 
> I tried running XWin with the '-ac' command line parameter.  This is meant
> to open access to all hosts.
> Xwinclip still couldn't open the display.
> 
> If XWin is used with a local window manager, this xwinclip (and any other
> client program which runs on the PC)
> will run sucessfully.  However, if XDMCP is used to connect to another
> system, then it fails.
> 
> I'm completely stuck.  Any help would be very appreciated.
> 
> regards Matthew
> 
> 
> 


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From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86 work with Japanese characters?
Message-ID: <20020326164144.GA6601@redhat.com>

Someone is asking me internally at Red Hat if Cygwin/XFree86 correctly
handles Japanese characters.

Can anyone confirm or deny that it does/doesn't?

cgf


From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
Message-ID: <20020320043934.GA8470@redhat.com>

On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 11:27:18PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
>Okay, I mirrored the files:
>http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/xbase-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
>http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/setup.hint
>http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/md5.sum

I'm not clear on whether these (mirrored) files are being formally
offered for the cygwin release or not.

I assume that these are just for people to play with but that will
require a little bit of customization of local setup.ini's if
you want to do anything useful.

If they are intended for the release then please follow the instructions
at http://cygwin.com/setup.html under "Submitting a package".

It seems like there were originally some questions that are best dealt
with in the cygwin-apps mailing list (cc'ed), where discussion about
that kind of stuff is commonplace.

I am excited about getting this into the cygwin distribution.  I wonder
how many people will discover it when it becomes part of the main
distro.

My inclination is to just add the xfree directory in the ftp area to the
list of directories that setup scans for files to install.  Then you can
create your hierarchy under that.

Or, were you planning on keeping the separate .tgz files around too?

cgf


From staf.verhaegen@imec.be  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: staf.verhaegen@imec.be (Staf Verhaegen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Use of font server on another machine
Message-ID: <3C57A6FD.E217EA81@imec.be>

Hello,

Can I use a font server on another (linux) machine in cygwin XFree 4.2.0 ?
I read the command line options but didn't find anything appropriate.
I also tried 'xset +fp pc120:7100' but this also failed with a bad directory
error.

Staf.


From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: missing telnet, solution
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020322203721.GM25487@redhat.com> 
Message-ID: <20020324024635.GB11351@redhat.com>

On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 06:18:05PM +0100, Palic, Darko wrote:
>Hello Christopher,
>
>okay it is nice to follow the request of the users, but why isn't a
>selectbox available, there something like "basic/minimal, common/typical and
>complete" could be selected instead of changing the whole setup? It would
>help!

What answer are you expecting?  It's a volunteer project.  We make
changes as time permits and as people are inclined.  We thought the
current setup with categories would be an improvement and apparently it
wasn't.  It never occurred to us that people wouldn't be able to figure
out that you could click on things and see packages to install.  But,
that was the case.

Once it became clear that there was a problem and that people didn't
like having to select things individually, I would have liked to see an
immediate resolution of the problem but it just didn't happen.  It's not
like I can fire anyone for not improving setup for you.  I'm just damn
grateful that Robert and others are spending time working on it at all.

Anyway, the new, just released, version of setup has some improvements
for selecting whole categories.  That should make things much easier.

We're discussing other alternatives all of the time but the basic
problem is that we have a lot of people who just ask aggrieved questions
like the above or who repeat the same observations that have been made
countless times before, and very few people who are actually willing to
help make things better.

If you want to contribute (and apparently you do), then setup.exe discussions
are happening in the cygwin-apps mailing lists.  If you have further questions,
you should (after reviewing the mail archives there) send them there.

cgf

> I think the change you're referring to was that we added, at the request
> of many users, a minimal install.  It's based on the debian "base"
> category, which does not include bzip2.  The default installation is a
> really basic one and it's looking like we need to change that.
>
> Anyway, I'll try to keep in this in mind if we change something in the
> future that impacts Cygwin/XFree86.  It never occurred to me that this
> would be an issue.


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Unable to type letters in login to AIX box using XFree86 4.2.0 on W2K
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Pavel,

One quick check: you are running Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0, right?  Or at least
the Test53 server?  (Test53 and 4.2.0 are almost, if not entirely,
identical).

I'll add a note to the FAQ sometime soon.

Thanks,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz [mailto:Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz]
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:52 AM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Subject: RE: Unable to type letters in login to AIX box using XFree86
> 4.2.0 on W2K
>
>
>
> Hi Harold
> I sent this problem to the mailing list two or three times, see below:
> http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-11/msg00051.html
> http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg02577.html
> http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg02575.html
> It's not all abaou that in the mailing list.
>
> You don't need any arguments to -kb params, it DISABLES keyboard
> extension.
> I had problems with AIX 4.2 and 4.3 (I had no possibility to test
> any other
> version with xfree).
>
> I want use Czech keyboard layout - it uses AltGr key for characters like
> \|@{}[]#<> etc.
> As far as I remember (but I may be wrong) - the problem appeared with both
> cs_CZ and en_US
> keyboard layout on AIX and both CS and EN keyboard on Windows
> machine. If I
> remember, I tried
> Win98, WinNT workstation and W2K server.
>
> I have found no info about this anywhere - I think it's problem of AIX and
> CygWin/XFree.
>
> example of my start command:
> start XWin -screen 0 1280 1024 -depth 32 -engine 4 -kb -query myAIXmachine
> -fp tcp/anotherAIXmachine:7500 -fullscreen -once -ac
>
> I hope it helps.
>
> Pavel
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                     "Harold Hunt"
>
>
>                      
>
>                     .edu>                cc:     "cygx"
> 
>
>                                          Subject:     RE: Unable
> to type letters in login to AIX box using XFree86 4.2.0 on W2K
>
>                     07.02.2002
>
>
>                     15:40
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Pavel,
>
> > To Harold: I think this should be included in FAQ (and fixed,
> if you have
> > an AIX machine to test it :-)))
>
> This is the first that I have heard of the problem.  I need the problem to
> be described in more detail before I can add an entry to the FAQ.  I need
> to
> know how to reproduce the problem (even though I don't have an AIX
> machine),
> I need to know who is affected, and I need to know the exact command-line
> for the remedy (and I mean exact!).  (For example, 'use the -kb parameter'
> does not help me because I don't know if you need to pass options to -kb,
> etc.)
>
> Here's a couple of questions:
>
> 1) What keyboard layout is AIX expecting?  In other words, does
> this happen
> on AIX when using US-English as the default keyboard layout, or does this
> only happen when AIX is using a non-US keyboard layout?
>
> 2) What keyboard layout is the Windows machine using?  In other
> words, does
> this happen regardless of the keyboard layout on the Windows machine, or
> does this only occur when the Windows machine is using a non-US layout?
> (I'm asking this because I saw AltGr mentioned.)
>
> 3) Are there any links to web sites that discuss this problem in more
> detail?  Or, is this only a problem when using XFree86 on Windows?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Harold
>
> P.S.  I'll most likely put your name on the FAQ entry if you contribute
> enough information for me to document the problem.  (Otherwise, I won't be
> able to make a FAQ entry at all...)
>
>
>
>


From cygwin@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: printing from cygwin-xfree remote printer
In-Reply-To: <3C7AB05C.8010207@igr.fr>
References: <3C7AB05C.8010207@igr.fr>
Message-ID: <20020225154126.GF25838@redhat.com>

I don't see anything in this email that would indicate that this
is an issue for the Cygwin/XFree project.

I think you're sending to the wrong mailing list.

cgf

On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 10:45:00PM +0100, Bernard Revet wrote:
>Dear Cygwinnies
>I am trying to install LPRng program in Cygwin-Xfree under Windows NT.
>It is not  an easy task but I understand that the complexity of 
>Microsoft Windows does not help.
>I followed most of the indications to have LPRng installed but I was 
>stopped by the owner rules
>when I tried checkpc in order to get the corrrect seteuid I got the 
>following
>SYSTEM @MICRO
>/usr/local/sbin/checkpc -V -f
>micro seteuid_wrapper: seteuid() failed !! Not owner
>micro is the name of the machine
>I need to print from micro  on a remote postscript machine which is 
>shared and available on micro
>I compiled LPRng as indicated after installation all commands are set to 
>Admin and group none.
>I have in /etc/passwd and /etc/group the two following lines respectively
>
>daemon:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:1:1:U-MICRO\daemon,S-1-5-21-1711220169-380859561-925700815-1001:/home/daemon:/bin/bash
>daemon:S-1-5-32-545:1
>
>When I configure LPRng with the various uid possibilities. I always end 
>with files belonging to Administ and group none.
>If I  do lpstat I  get Printer 'HPLaserJ@localhost' -cannot open 
>connection - Connection refused Make sure the remote host supports the 
>LPD protocol.
>and accepts connections from this port and from nonprivileged port
>.
>I can print from MICRO on this remote printer. under Windows NT
>
>I would appreciate some help to circumvent the system problem and be 
>able to print from a cygwin-Xfree window.
>I installed Ghostscript and Ghostview as they both have printing 
>possibilities. These 2 programs are running fine but without printing
>
>Best regards
>Yours
>Bernard
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

-- 
Please do not send me personal email with cygwin questions.
Use the resources at http://cygwin.com/ .


From phil@dmillard.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: phil@dmillard.com (Phil Humpherys)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X browser
In-Reply-To: <3C51EE1A.74BA8E21@pobox.com>; from john.turner@pobox.com on Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 04:45:30PM -0700
References: <20020125154041.A5152@nimbus.dmillard.com> <3C51EE1A.74BA8E21@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <20020128140342.A15999@nimbus.dmillard.com>

So that I don't have to leave my X environment because I need a decent
web browser.

On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 04:45:30PM -0700 
John A. Turner(john.turner@pobox.com) wrote:
+--------------------

> Phil Humpherys wrote:
> > 
> > I'd sure like to get an X browser running in xfree.  I don't seem to be
> > able to get netscape or mozilla to work in cygwin-xfree.
> 
> why in the world would you want to do such a thing??
> 
> -John Turner


From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Unable to type letters in login to AIX box using XFree86 4.2.0 on W2K
Message-ID: 


Harold,

I don't know :-)

OK, I have downloaded Test 53 today (for sure)
and the problem is still there.

Pavel




                                                                                                                                              
                    "Harold Hunt"                                                                                                             
                                                                                        
                    .edu>                cc:     "cygx"                                                              
                                         Subject:     RE: Unable to type letters in login to AIX box using XFree86 4.2.0 on W2K               
                    07.02.2002                                                                                                                
                    19:24                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                              




Pavel,

One quick check: you are running Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0, right?  Or at least
the Test53 server?  (Test53 and 4.2.0 are almost, if not entirely,
identical).

I'll add a note to the FAQ sometime soon.

Thanks,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz [mailto:Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz]
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:52 AM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Subject: RE: Unable to type letters in login to AIX box using XFree86
> 4.2.0 on W2K
>
>
>
> Hi Harold
> I sent this problem to the mailing list two or three times, see below:
> http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-11/msg00051.html
> http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg02577.html
> http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg02575.html
> It's not all abaou that in the mailing list.
>
> You don't need any arguments to -kb params, it DISABLES keyboard
> extension.
> I had problems with AIX 4.2 and 4.3 (I had no possibility to test
> any other
> version with xfree).
>
> I want use Czech keyboard layout - it uses AltGr key for characters like
> \|@{}[]#<> etc.
> As far as I remember (but I may be wrong) - the problem appeared with
both
> cs_CZ and en_US
> keyboard layout on AIX and both CS and EN keyboard on Windows
> machine. If I
> remember, I tried
> Win98, WinNT workstation and W2K server.
>
> I have found no info about this anywhere - I think it's problem of AIX
and
> CygWin/XFree.
>
> example of my start command:
> start XWin -screen 0 1280 1024 -depth 32 -engine 4 -kb -query
myAIXmachine
> -fp tcp/anotherAIXmachine:7500 -fullscreen -once -ac
>
> I hope it helps.
>
> Pavel
>
>
>




From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under v4.2.0?
In-Reply-To: <3C9761CC.9276C7B4@imec.be>
Message-ID: 

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Staf Verhaegen wrote:

> Use a different screen number for every session
> % XWin -screen 0 width height -query host1 &
> % XWin -screen 1 width height -query host2 &
> % ...

I don't expect this to work. Both will try to listen on port 6000. You have
to modify the _display_ not the _screen_number. 

bye
	ago
-- 
 Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017


From vincent.arnoux@asml.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: vincent.arnoux@asml.com (Vincent Arnoux)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Error on starting twm
Message-ID: <3C357A53.BCC1E114@rousset.france.asml.nl>

Hello,
I have a NT laptop with Cygwin installed on it.
When I start Cygwin, no problem, but when I try to run startxwin.sh, no
xterm will appear (even if the X server looks started : background,
mouse working).
If I start from Windows startxwin.bat, I get an xterm but with no
prompt, and from this xterm, typing ./xterm will lead to a "xterm: Error
14, errno 2: No such file or directory". but starting a xclock will be
OK.
Is it a problem in my configuration files ?

Thank you for helping me,
Vincent
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From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X browser
In-Reply-To: <20020126151715.84275.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000d01c1a69e$596a0b10$b66607d5@BRAMSCHE>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Sylvain Petreolle
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 4:17 PM
> To: cygx
> Subject: RE: X browser
>
>
> Hi Harold and all,
>
> You're right,
> Konqueror is working under KDE.

But please note that this is currently in alpha state :-)

Ralf

> 
> > Note: The kde-on-cygwin project may have Konqueror
> > working.
> >
> > http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/
> >
> > Hope that helps,
> >
> > Harold
>
>
>
>
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From hainesr7@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: hainesr7@hotmail.com (Rob Haines)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Remote tasks sleeping after 'su'
References: 
Message-ID: 

Harold, Tzafrir, Group,

The key to this problem seems to be in transfering the "magic cookie" from
the old user-id to the new user-id. The link you provided, Harold,
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth.html) was useful but unfortunately did
not hold the solution. I tried the script in section 7 on the off chance but
I got the same behaviour. Tzafrir's hint did yield some joy though: I
googled for every combination of the letters s, u and x and found a little
script called "sux": http://fgouget.free.fr/sux/sux-readme.shtml.

This seems to work:

'sux root xcalc' will bring xcalc up on my desktop - cool. The only problem
is that this doesn't fork so I've lost that shell until I close xcalc.

'sux root 'xcalc &'' returns an error: "env: xcalc &: No such file or
directory". Pity. I though that would work.

'sux root xcalc &' is a disaster, because when you type the root password it
appears in plain text and then the following error is returned: "bash:
: command not found".

If I could get this to fork it would be a bonus, but it doesn't really
matter because I don't need it often (and anyway it might be best not to be
able to leave root's windows open indefinately, having to close them to get
my shell back might be a Good Thing).

The other concern of mine was whether the X stuff is still being sent
through ssh or whether it's now coming down an unsecure connection. It's
beyond my knowledge to know either way!

I hope this helps someone else.

Thanks for all your help,
Robert Haines.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: "Robert Haines" ; "Tzafrir Cohen"

Cc: "cygx" 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 6:37 PM
Subject: RE: Remote tasks sleeping after 'su'


> Robert,
>
> I found a document that may be of help:
> Remote X Apps mini-HOWTO (http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth.html)
>
> In particular, the section called "X Applications from Another User-id"
may
> be useful:
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth-7.html
>
> That should explain some related difficulties, even though you are using
> ssh...
>
> Harold
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Haines [mailto:hainesr7@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:09 AM
> > To: Tzafrir Cohen; Harold Hunt
> > Cc: cygx
> > Subject: Re: Remote tasks sleeping after 'su'
> >
> >
> > > > > I've been using Cygwin for a while now but am new to cygwin-xfree.
I
> > hope
> > > > > this question hasn't been answered before but I did check
> > the archives
> > and
> > > > > didn't find anything pertinent.
> > > > >
> > > > > I use this system to log into other systems (via ssh -X)
> > and have the
> > > > > windows displayed on my cygwin-xfree desktop. If I run something
as
> > myself
> > > > > then everything is fine. If I log in, then 'su' to root, then run
> > > > > something
> > > > > the window never appears. If I look at 'top' then the task I just
> > > > > started is
> > > > > flagged as sleeping. This problem does not occur when using the
> > > > > putty/exceed
> > >
> >
> > Thanks for your responses guys. I have now had chance to do a little
> > research using a Linux box in place of my Cygwin/XFree box and the end
> > result is the same. Once I have su'd I can't expect X forwarding to
work.
> > Now I think about it, this is hardly strange. The only difference in the
> > whole process was that I did actually get an error when using two Linux
> > boxes and the task was terminated, unlike on the Cygwin/XFree
> > setup where no
> > error was received and the task simply went to sleep.
> >
> > Now I know that this is normal behaviour, I'll not try it again :-)
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Robert Haines.
> >
>
>


From sanwa@nns.ne.jp  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: sanwa@nns.ne.jp (sanwa@nns.ne.jp)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJCo4NTUkJEckOSQrGyhC?=
Message-ID: <200201142222.HAA91309@nns.ne.jp>

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From ppayami@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ppayami@yahoo.com (payam payami)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Problems getting xfree up and running was: Re: question
In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C266AAF7@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: <20020316080154.61300.qmail@web14909.mail.yahoo.com>


--- Suhaib Siddiqi  wrote:
> 
> 
> > Well this mail came there so you managed to do it
> :-) Lets 
> > get started!
> > 
> > Gentlemen, this fellow of ours is having a
> problem, he have 
> > downloaded xfree, installed it, I think all by the
> manual.. 
> > (I assisted him a little and can fill out with
> some of my thoughts)
> > 
> > When he runs startxwin.bat/sh the X-window pops
> up, but then 
> > closes. Reading the /tmp/Xlog.txt (or what the
> file is 
> > called) the last thing printed there was that it
> couldn't 
> > find font fixed, when doublechecking he seemed to
> have the 
> > font 6x13-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz in
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc
> 
> 
> Try installing fonts manually... by using gunzip and
> tar xvf
> This problem a few users reported a few times.
> Is Cygwin disk mounted in binary or Text mode?  Do a
> mount command and
> make sure it is in binary mode.
i install it manually but problem existed yet, 
yes i do mount command and it is in binary mode
> 
> > 
> > (dug up the fontfilename from my fonts.alias and
> fonts.dir)
> > 
> > (Payam, send the logfile to the list)
> > 
> > He has two network cards, could it be something
> there messing up??
> 
> 
> I doubt two network cards should report fixed font
> problem.
> 
> Suhaib
> 
> > 
> >         /Andy
> > 
> > -- 
> >  The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!
> > 
> 


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From news-returns@atomice.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: news-returns@atomice.net (Chris January)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: KDE under cygwin?
References: <7c.24070563.29b868d7@aol.com> <003d01c1c5b4$19b91670$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> 
Message-ID: 

>>> Is anyone using KDE, KOffice, (especially)
>>> KDevelop with Cygwin? I assume it
>>> would need the qt library. Is this all workable?
>>>
>>Look at http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net. There are alpha
>>releases of some kde packages
I would appreciate any feedback you have regarding the KDevelop package on 
that site (and kde-cygwin in general, for that matter). There is a mailing 
list for kde-cygwin over at www.kde.org (kde-cygwin@kde.org). I think Chris 
was a little unfair in blasting you for posting to the wrong list without 
pointing you in the right direction.

Chris




From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Darryl,

If at all possible, as a diagnostic test you should connect only the two
computers in question together on a seperate test network, making sure to
set each machine up with a static IP address.  Then try to login via XDMCP
on the test network.  If XDMCP works fine on the test network, then you have
some sort of misconfiguration on your primary network (which is what I
suspect).

You still haven't told us the speed of the network between the machines.
Cable modems do not work as fast as 10Base-T, so XDMCP doesn't usually work
very well over a cable modem.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Darryl Wagoner
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 2:43 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> Thanks to Harold I do see packets going to the server and being answered,
> but only once in awhile will I get a log in screen.  Any suggestions
> on how to debug this?
>
> thanks
>
> --
> Darryl Wagoner - WA1GON
>
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> today at:
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>
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>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
> > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:25 PM
> > To: Darryl Wagoner; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: RE: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
> >
> >
> > Darryl,
> >
> > According to the Linux XMDCP HOWTO
> > (http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/gdm.html), the port number is
> > 177, not 117.
> >
> > I don't know what else to tell you.  Try using kdm instead.
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Darryl Wagoner
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:03 PM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
> > >
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > I think I have followed all the directions, but all I get is a
> > > blank X screen with a pointer cursors.
> > >
> > > The request doesn't seem to be getting to the Linux system.
> > >
> > > I did a "tcpdump port 117" and I don't see any packets at all going
> > > to Linux.
> > >
> > > In the docs it says to change gdm.conf
> > >
> > > [xdmcp]
> > > Enable=1
> > >
> > > but all the other options have the Boolean true so I followed suit.
> > >
> > > [xdmcp]
> > > Enable=true
> > >
> > > I did do a netstat to make sure xdm was listening on the correct port.
> > >
> > > Is it possible that Xwin.exe is sending to a different port?
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > --
> > > Darryl Wagoner - WA1GON
> > >
> > > Your phone line can be the life line for the unemployed. Sign up
> > > today at:
> > > http://www.proud-americans.org/
> > >
> > > *** Please pass the word to at least three others. ***
> > >
> > > "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing."  - Edmund Burke [1729-1797]
> > >
> > >


From Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Cary.Jamison@powerquest.com (Cary Jamison)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Log filling up
Message-ID: 

> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 12:17 PM
> 

> > What is the purpose of this message (winCursorOffScreen () -
> > hmm...)?  It seems pretty useless.
> 
> The message is mostly useless.  The message was put there as sort of a
> "heads up" in case someone every reported seeing the 
> message... then we
> would know that we need to implement the function.  However, 
> something on
> your system is apparently causing bogus mouse movement 
> messages to be sent
> to Cygwin/XFree86.  I think the better solution would be to 
> fix whatever
> program is sending the bogus mouse messages (probably goScreen).

What would this function do if it were implemented?
It doesn't seem like it would need to do anything, anyway.

> have to fix it yourself.  (Of course, the easy solution is to 
> download the
> source as in the Cygwin/XFree86 Contributor's Guide, goto to file
> xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/wincursor.c
> http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/w
> incursor.c,
> #if 0 the ErrorF message that is bothering you, then compile 
> according to
> the instructions in the Contributor's Guide... we're talking 
> *maybe* 30
> minutes of your time)

Thanks for the info on what to change.  I think I'll play around and
try to determine what is causing the message, be it goScreen or whatever,
first.  I'd rather make this change than never have any log output by
redirecting the log to /dev/null.  Of course, things always take longer
than expected - I'm sure I'm missing some other cygwin stuff to be able
to do a quick 30 minute change (like gcc, for one).

Wait, I could just do a binary edit and change that string to null, like
Alexander suggested I do to the "/tmp/XWin.log" string to change it to
"/dev/null\0...".  Outputting a null string shouldn't fill up the log.
I'll give that a try after I figure out if goScreen or what is the culprit.

> Harold

Cary

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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: 8-bit PseudoColor 
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020208155901.023340f8@mail.verizon.net>
Message-ID: 

Mark,

> Now 4.2.0, last week I'm not sure.  I just redid my whole windows
> partition
> and so I have the latest Cygwin/XFree.
>
> I just tried it in non full screen mode with Windows in 16 bit
> color and it
> failed.  Is this what you felt shouldn't happen anymore?  Or just that I
> shouldn't have to run it full screen?

Well, Windows doesn't allow each program to run at a different bit depth, so
if you want Cygwin/XFree86 to run in 8 bit color in windowed mode, you have
to run Windows in 8 bit color.  The -depth 8 parameter only applies
when -fullscreen is used because we can change the bit depth for the screen
when we are running in a DirectDraw-based fullscreen mode.

Does that make sense?

So it makes perfect sense that your 8 bit application would fail when
running Cygwin/XFree86 in windowed mode with Windows in 16 bit color.

What I was saying is that if you run Windows in 8 bit color, then
Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0 should work just fine with your 8 bit color
applications.

So, please run Windows in 8 bit color and let me know what happens.

Harold


From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Building Enlightenment
Message-ID: <010701c19d49$75704530$fe6207d5@BRAMSCHE>

Hi Suhaib,

it is interesting for the xfree people to have a link to a patched libxext relating to this
thread http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg01466.html?

If so I would send a mail to the cygwin-xfree list with a link to the kde-cygwin project on
sourcforge, where one can find such a lib.

Ralf



From darko.palic@gmx.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: darko.palic@gmx.de (Palic, Darko)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Languages under Cygwin/XFree
In-Reply-To: <3C83EEC5.2020500@gmx.net>
Message-ID: 

Hi,

do not know if other linux distris use the same path, but I changed the
behaviour by replacing the Xmodmap.remote under /etc/X11/. Now all clients
have by default the keymap of Xmodmap.remote.

best regards,
Darko


> Hi,
>
> I want to use Cygwin/Xfree86 with a French Keyboard, but when
> connecting to a remote host through XDMCP the input are in
> US kbd format.
>
> How can I reconf this ?
> Thnx
>


From sean@nutros.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: sean@nutros.com (Sean LeBlanc)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: IceWM?
In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683340@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: <000201c1b0bc$f724f860$1009a8c0@extrememotivation.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Suhaib Siddiqi
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:18 AM
> To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
> Subject: RE: IceWM?
>
>
>
> maybe your IceWM failed to start.  Try starting it from xterm
> window.  It
> should show you errors if it is crashing.

I see icewm running in the Windows task manager - could it still have
crashed in that case?
Also, do you mean to run icewm from the odd-looked xterm inside of XFree86?

Thanks,
Sean

>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sean LeBlanc [mailto:sean@nutros.com]
> > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 11:15 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: IceWM?
> >
> >
> > Earlier I asked about window managers - I'm trying to get
> > IceWM working for the time being. I downloaded binary
> > edition, changed startxwin.sh according to directions, and
> > run startxwin.sh. The server comes up with a green
> > background, and an xterm...but the xterm doesn't look right
> > (no edges or title bar), and there is nothing else on the
> > screen.  Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong here?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Sean
> >
>


From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: problem - system api on winnt
In-Reply-To: <20020117132158.29370.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <177E503C4DA3D311BC9D0008C791C30607253C75@diexch01.xko.dec.com> <20020117132158.29370.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020117143619.Q2015@cygbert.vinschen.de>

On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 05:21:58AM -0800, Brian Genisio wrote:
> Wrong Group.  I have forwarded your question to cygwin@cygwin.com.  This group

Unecessarily.  He already cross posted to both groups :-(

Corinna

-- 
Corinna Vinschen                  Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to
Cygwin Developer                                mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com
Red Hat, Inc.


From Narasimhak@mascotsystems.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Narasimhak@mascotsystems.com (Narasimha Reddy K)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: need help
Message-ID: <5575473D4532D411BE4C009027E8C838068E6686@MASBLREXC02>

Please send the build instructions of XFREE86 on windows.

Regards,

N Reddy



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From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Building Enlightenment
In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683267@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: <010801c19d4e$e2b46e50$fe6207d5@BRAMSCHE>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Suhaib Siddiqi
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:23 PM
> To: 'Cygwin-Xfree'
> Subject: RE: Building Enlightenment
>
>
>
> Sure, I will put add to URL

This is the url to the downloadpage
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=27249

The package is currently named kde-xlib-1.1.tar.gz and contains libXext and libICE (missing
ICEConnectionNumber symbol) and based on the xfree 4.1 release. The release number my be
changed

If the libICE in this package is a problem, let me know.

Ralf

>
> Suhaib
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ralf Habacker [mailto:Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de]
> > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 5:19 PM
> > To: Cygwin-Xfree
> > Subject: Building Enlightenment
> >
> >
> > Hi Suhaib,
> >
> > it is interesting for the xfree people to have a link to a
> > patched libxext relating to this thread
> > http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q2/msg01466.html?
> >
> > If so I would send a mail to the cygwin-xfree list with a
> > link to the kde-cygwin project on sourcforge, where one can
> > find such a lib.
> >
> > Ralf
> >
> >
>


From ooedoo@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ooedoo@yahoo.com (Ed Conrad)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: "X connection to 127.0. ...explicit kill..."
Message-ID: <20020326014057.65843.qmail@web20103.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I'm assuming this is the list for config problems.

I dl the prog today from:
http://archive.progeny.com/cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0/

When I run it, the x window pops up for maybe a second
and then vanishes and the startxwin shell says:
"X connection to 127.0.0.1:0 broken (explicit kill or
server shudown)"

If I try to run XWin.exe, it says that it cant find
cygwin1.dll.

TIA
The log file says:
"ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 800 h 600
ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 5 i: 1"






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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under v4.2.0?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Victor,

> And I have also tried setting the display to alternate values:
>
> 	start /B XWin -display :0 -query 
> 	start /B XWin -display :1 -query 

That is gibberish.  It doesn't mean anything.

What you want is:

start /B XWin-works :0 -query host1
start /B XWin-works :1 -query host2


I've tested this and gotten two distinct sessions to one machine (say,
host1) at the same time.  I don't currently have two XDM hosts, but I'm sure
it will work fine with two hosts.

Let me know how this works.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Victor Atkinson
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 5:09 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under
> v4.2.0?
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> Thanks to all for the quick replies.  Unfortunately, I haven't
> been able to
> get a workable configuration together yet.  I have tried both combinations
> of screen 0 & 1 designations with XWin:
>
> Separate invocations:
>
> 	start /B XWin -screen 0   -query 
> 	start /B XWin -screen 1   -query 
>
> Single invocation:
>
> 	start /B XWin -screen 0   -query 
> -screen 1 
>  -query 
>
> And I have also tried setting the display to alternate values:
>
> 	start /B XWin -display :0 -query 
> 	start /B XWin -display :1 -query 
>
> as well as all combinations of display & screen (0.0, 1.0, 1.1,
> etc) for the
> two sessions, both via the command line and the DISPLAY environment
> variable.
>
> The results are almost always identical, first XWin starts and connects to
> host1.  However, when the second server starts, the first screen
> appears to
> be reset to and empty X server session (just blank background) while the
> second server connects to host2.  When I am finished with host2
> and quit the
> second session (close the window), then the first session gives me a login
> prompt at host1 again.
>
> It appears as though there is some hardwired common display
> behavior that is
> common among all server instances, even if they are started from separate
> XWin processes.
>
> I'll keep plugging away at it.  I did setup VNC on the remote hosts again,
> to do what I needed to do simultaneously on host1 and host2.  It does seem
> that VNC is much more of a bandwidth and processor load than
> XFree86, which
> doesn't really surprise me.  (If my remote host screen saver
> kicks in within
> a VNC client window, it nearly brings my laptop to its knees, but in the
> same circumstance XFree86 is smooth.)
>
> Victor Atkinson
> Syracuse, NY, USA
>
>
> >
> > On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Staf Verhaegen wrote:
> >
> > > Use a different screen number for every session
> > > % XWin -screen 0 width height -query host1 &
> > > % XWin -screen 1 width height -query host2 &
> > > % ...
> >
> > I don't expect this to work. Both will try to listen on port 6000. You
> have
> > to modify the _display_ not the _screen_number.
> >
> > bye
> > 	ago
> > --
> >  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
> >  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
> >  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017
> >
>
>


From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Installation on CD-Rom, Copying a whole installation
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020319191650.GE8938@redhat.com>

On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 06:49:05PM +1100, Robert Collins wrote:
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Andrew Markebo [mailto:flognat@flognat.myip.org] 
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 6:44 PM
>
>>First thoughts, do a package with all required tgz's and then 
>>do packages with the fonts not required.. docs.. 
>>
>>Hmm what more is needed?? ;-)
>
>Here's the easiest way to get started:
>* 1 package (and one setup.hint) per binary tarball.
>* make sure that each package lists all it's dependencies.
>* edit the install script you've got, to remove any tarball extraction
>stuff, and put it in a new tarball called 'X11-install' or something as
>a postinstall script, and make sure that the server/client packages
>depend on that.
>
>That should do it. Oh, explicitly list the source for all the packages
>as the same source tarball (if that's what exists for X).

And, please use bzip2 to compress the tar files.  If we can use setup.exe
for installation, we won't have to be bothered with the "Where's bzip2?"
questions here anymore.

http://cygwin.com/setup.html

should help with setting things up for a cygwin package.

FWIW, it's been a long term goal to get setup.exe into a state where
it can install Cygwin/XFree86.

cgf


From wilper-8@ludd.luth.se  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: wilper-8@ludd.luth.se (Wilhelm Person)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: BunZip and an extra question
In-Reply-To: <20020103182213.GC17348@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

IIRC bzip wasn't in the packages selected by default when I installed
cygwin, perhaps if it was added we'd see fewer
newbie-unable-to-unpack-questions.

Or failing that, start to pack the stuff with regular gzip.

/W

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Christopher Faylor wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 04:40:48PM +0000, Mark Himsley wrote:
> >On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:14:27 -0600  you wrote:
> >
> >>------_=_NextPart_000_01C19471.B74767D0
> >>Content-Type: image/gif;
> >>	name="image001.gif"
> >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> >>Content-Disposition: attachment;
> >>	filename="image001.gif"
> >
> >I think we'd all be grateful if you could stop sending HTML/GIF files to the
> >recipients on this list!
> >
> >>Hmm trying to follow the install procedure for Xfree86 and bunzip isn't
> >>happening.  Is this a separate compression app I need to install?  Also
> >>is cygwin blending in with my local windows environment, I right
> >>clicked in the cygwin box and got a lot of registry info and other
> >>stuff as a response to the mouse click.
> >
> >Maybe more information from you would elicit a reply.  I'm sure that
> >you understand that "isn't happening" and "got a lot of registry info
> >and other stuff" does not give the list members much to go on and
> >therefore I expect your request for help will go un-heeded.
>
> Even more important -- use the correct mailing list.
>
> Personally, I'm amazed at the amount of trouble that the simple act of
> un-bzip2ing a tar archive generates for the cygwin-xfree project but
> they're somewhat used to dealing with these questions.
>
> So, send email to the cygwin-xfree mailing list and they'll probably
> help you.
>
> Can I again suggest that people redirect X-related questions to this
> mailing list?
>
> I've Cc'd this message there and reset the reply-to so that replies should
> go there as well.
>
> cgf
>

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From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xbase - was Re: lieb@sou.edu
In-Reply-To: <3C9B73F5.2050703@blackandwhiterainbow.com>
References: <3C9B73F5.2050703@blackandwhiterainbow.com>
Message-ID: 

/ matt rice  wrote:
| http://flognat.myip.org/xbase/
| 

Weeh I am published.. I am published.. :-)

Hmm anyone tried it and managed to get it working?? Is the silence a
good sign?? Or is it a sign that I have managed to do something that
destroys the computers so much that the poor users can't get back and
warn the others??

        /Andy

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: problem with using xsetroot without window manager 
In-Reply-To: <008e01c19a72$6537ceb0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Ralf Habacker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm using the latest Xserver Test Release and have recognized a problem, 
> when starting some apps without any window manager.
> 
> For starting kde/kde2 I'm using setxroot to choose another background at 
> the start of the launching process, which needs some time. At this time no 
> window manager is running. With this configuration the color isn't set, 
> but the xserver seems to be restarted. (The window seems to be closed for 
> a little while and comes back) After startung twm, kwm or kwin color 
> setting works. The same effect occurs, when I'm starting for example 
> xdpyinfo without any window manager. When the end of the listing is 
> reached the server "restarts".

This is the normal behavior. After the last client disconnected, the 
Xserver resets. Normally xinit is the first process that connects to the 
Xserver, exec the .xinitrc scripts and exits after the last program from 
xinitrc (normally the windowmanger) has ended.

You can switch the Xserver to not resetting by adding the switch -noreset 
to the XWin commandline. This is not recommend if you use the Xserver for
terminals, since all settings that are made in a session are not reset until 
the next session starts.
 
bye
	ago 
-- 
 Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017


From jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk (Jeremy Wilkins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Windows based app.server
References: <200202061144.SM00180@lib15.denefield.org.uk>
Message-ID: <02d001c1af09$5e661780$0e00000a@athlon>

Hi,

Is the app your running Win32 or Win16, if it's Win16 you'll have big
problems running multiple copies on an app server (eg one for each connected
user).

I'm not an expert on this but these are the options I'm aware of.

use Windows NT Terminal Server, some apps can be fiddly to get running
though, not sure on prices, probably the cheapest option. Use RDesktop
(www.rdesktop.org) to view on the clients.

Use Win2k Server (or XP), these include the Terminal Services technology
(Hydra) by default. Don't know about compatability with rdesktop.

Use Citrix Metaframe in combination with the above, this has it's own much
more functional Unix (and I presume Linux) client.

Another option is VNC, but this is only single user. You could dedicate  a
few machines to running your app, each only allowing 1 connection, then the
users could use whichever app server is free (theres a browsing tool
somewhere in the addons section of the VNC website).

Hope this helps

Jeremy Wilkins


----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Howells" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2050 11:52 AM
Subject: Windows based app.server


> With an X server running on a Win32 machine, it's possible to run X
> applications (e.g. on Linux) and have them sent over the network to appear
> on the Win32 machine.
>
> However, has anybody tried the other way around -- having Windows
> applications appearing on a Linux desktop, the Windows applications all
> being run through a specific Windows (NT) based application server?
>
> For example, imagine a network running almost entirely Linux, but needing
> to run a few legacy Windows applications. What I would like is for the
user
> (sitting in front of Linux box with X) to be able to click on an icon for
a
> Windows application, causing the application to start running on a Windows
> (NT) based application server. The program would entirely run on the
> Windows server, but the screen output would be sent over the network so it
> could be controlled by the user sitting on their Linux/X machine.
>
> I'm just wondering if this is possible?
>
> Many thanks,
> Chris Howells
>
>


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From spetreolle@yahoo.fr  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file
Message-ID: <20020109174042.45366.qmail@web10108.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I would install Kde 2.2.1 and i didn't find
the setup.ini file on
http://sourceforge.net/projects/kde-cygwin.

Where could I download it ?




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From Patrick@JGSullivan.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Patrick@JGSullivan.com (Patrick Jaromin)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP to Solaris Hangs on specific W2k systems, not all
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020212111846.023b4cf0@mail01.jgsullivan.com>

Harold-

Thanks for the info.

First, some new info -- I accidentally left a "hung" session open overnight
and returned to find the CDE login window! It turns out that it *does* work,
but takes roughly 15 - 20minutes before the actual login window appears
on the "non-working" systems. Additionally, some apps don't appear to work
properly even after the login succeeds. However, if I use the same login on the
working system, all apps work as expected. The error messages lead me to
believe it is a font issue of some kind....which appears to be supported by
looking at a successful login vs. a hung one...the line it's hung up on appears
to do with fonts.

On Solaris 8, we are connecting through the server process dtlogin.
When running that in debug mode, I find that the difference between the 
"hanging" machines
and the working one is:

-- snip --
(chi70:0) setLang() - Current Lang = C
(chi70:0) setLang() - Desired Lang = C
(chi70:0) setLang() - Locale has NOT changed
(chi70:0) LANG=C
(chi70:0) Source(): /usr/dt/config/Xsetup

This is where it "hangs"...when I connect with the working system, it is 
identical (except for IP address)
but continues after the "Source()" line as follows:

--snip--
(chi54:0) ApplyFontPathMods() for chi54.chicago.jgsullivan.com:0
(chi54:0)   Foreign display
(chi54:0) setLang ()
(chi54:0) setLang() - Current Lang = C
(chi54:0) setLang() - Desired Lang = C
(chi54:0) setLang() - Locale has NOT changed
(chi54:0) LANG=C
(chi54:0) Greeter environment:
.
.
.
--snip--

Any further suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

- Patrick


At 09:00 PM 2/9/2002 -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
>Patrick,
>
> > Yes. I've had no problems running XFree86 locally.
> > In addition, I've been able to run remote X apps on the
> > machines that don't do XDMCP via ssh and setting DISPLAY.
>
>Okay, then you want to run xdm in debug mode to get some more information.
>Alexander Gottwald has described this process many times... one of them is
>at:
>http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-01/msg00253.html
>
>Let us know what you find out from xdm.
>
>Harold


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From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
Message-ID: <20020313015204.GL13042@redhat.com>

On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 06:06:16PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
>> > Fine.  But how do you implement them on 9x/Me?
>>Perhaps the same way I implemented FIFO's, but easier as the semantics
>>seem less complex to me.
>>
>>Anyway, sure we don't need to have bot NT and 9x all at the same
>>time...
>
>Sounds logical to me.  There is no reason to limit the performance on
>Windows NT/2000/XP just because there would need to be a seperate
>routine for Windows 95/98/Me.

I'm glad it sounds logical.  Cygwin already has lots of code that is NT
specific, e.g., CYGWIN=ntsec.

cgf


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: This mailing list
In-Reply-To: <3C6A2F1E.8FB1C87B@peaktime.be>
References: 
	<3C6A2F1E.8FB1C87B@peaktime.be>
Message-ID: 

[...]
| Good idea. And when reconfiguring the list server, it would be nice to
| have Subjects prefixed with [CYGWIN-XFREE]. I know that is not so easy,
| because the list server must ensure the prefix is not 'stuttered'. But
| whan you are subscribed to say 6 lists, even one like cygwin-xfree that
| does not show the origin of messages, makes management of one's inbox
| rather hard. If there were two... .

Well you can always find cygwin-xfree in the To: or CC: field of the
email.. or?? Thats how I sort them and I never get such beast in my
normal inbox.

        /Andy

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From nagyt@otpbank.hu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nagyt@otpbank.hu (Nagy Tibor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory
References: <00cd01c1a41f$2340df40$60a407d5@BRAMSCHE>
Message-ID: <3C4FB7E4.9F49B3C5@otpbank.hu>

I am reproducing only the problem of cource with 51 konsoles. The
problem appears usually at normal work also after a while.

Additional info: I am logging into KDE on a remote machine with XDMCP.

Tibor


Ralf Habacker wrote:
> 
> >
> > Did somebody observed that Cygwin/Xfree86's memory usage suddenly
> > increases, causing Windows getting slow?
> >
> > I start Cygwin/Xfree86 and 50 konsole (KDE console) in it. I see in
> > Win98 performance monitor that CPU usage is 15%, memory usage is  70MB,
> > free physical memory 20MB and swap file size is 30MB. Than I start 5
> > konsoles more and sudenly CPU usage is 60%, memory usage is 96MB, free
> > physical memory 0MB and swap file size is 280MB!!! and the whole system
> > is getting very slow.
> >
> > What is this?
> For what you need 55 consoles ?
> 
> Ralf

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From jmp@micromuse.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jmp@micromuse.com (Jean-Marc Paulin)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ?
References: <20020129115059.41932.qmail@web20809.mail.yahoo.com><003201c1a8bd$ad574eb0$d527a8c0@CACHAREL> 
Message-ID: <007401c1a8c3$3e7b1f70$d527a8c0@CACHAREL>

No, not really.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Markebo" 
To: "Jean-Marc Paulin" 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ?


> / "Jean-Marc Paulin"  wrote:
> | OS: Win2000 SP2
> | How do I start the damn thing: startx from cygwin
> | I am running engine 4.2.0
> 
> Any difference using startxwin.sh or startxwin.bat?
> 
>         /Andy
> -- 
>  The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!
> 


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under v4.2.0?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

One more thing.  I just updated the documentation (User's Guide) yesterday
to include an example of how to run multiple XDMCP sessions.  I'm not sure,
but you may have seen the new documentation when you looked at it today;
thus, you didn't miss anything the first time around.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Victor Atkinson [mailto:atkinson@syrres.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 4:57 PM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Subject: RE: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under
> v4.2.0?
>
>
> Harold,
>
> Thanks for the fast reply.  However, your answer confuses me.  I
> do not have
> any executable, script or batch file called "XWin-works".  However, when I
> modified your example to:
>
> > start /B XWin :0 -query host1
> > start /B XWin :1 -query host2
>
> it works perfectly.
>
> I would swear that I tried that particular combination.  (After being busy
> with other things for a couple of days, then coming back and
> taking a fresh
> look at the documentation, etc, this solution seems obvious to me.  Funny
> how it works out that way sometimes.)
>
> Having had success with your suggestions, I modified the original
> startxwin.bat batch file into something that gives me the
> functionality that
> I have been wanting.  Below is a 4NT (my command-line-interpreter) batch
> file that accepts a name of a host running XDM Chooser, then attempts to
> start XWin on a free display.  I don't yet know BASH script
> programming, but
> feel free to modify and distribute this as you see fit.
>
> begin XWinIndirect.btm
> -----------------------------------------
>
> @ echo off
>
> ::	Check inputs.
> iff %# lt 1 then
> 	echo `Error!  Command-line missing desired remote host for
> XDMCP Chooser
> query.`
> 	quit 1
> endiff
>
> ::	Set global environment variables.
> set CYGWIN_ROOT=d:\cygwin
> set PATH=.;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\bin;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\usr\X11R6\bin;%PATH%
>
> ::	Find unused X-Server display.
> for /l %Counter in (0,1,9) (
> 	set TestFile=%CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix\X%Counter%
> 	iff not exist %TestFile% then
> 		set DisplayNumber=%Counter%
> 		goto DisplayFound
> 	endiff
> )
> echo 'Error!  No unused X-Server display found.'
> quit 2
>
> :DisplayFound
> ::	Set environment variables for specific X-Server instance.
> set DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:%DisplayNumber%
> echo `Found display `%DisplayNumber%` free, attempting to start
> X-Server as
> `%DISPLAY%
>
> ::	Startup the X Server on the specified display.
> start /B XWin :%DisplayNumber% -screen 0 1024 768 -indirect %1
>
> -----------------------------------------
> begin XWinIndirect.btm
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>
> Victor Atkinson
> Syracuse, NY, USA
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 5:28 PM
> > To: Victor Atkinson; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: RE: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under
> > v4.2.0?
> >
> >
> > Victor,
> >
> > > And I have also tried setting the display to alternate values:
> > >
> > > 	start /B XWin -display :0 -query 
> > > 	start /B XWin -display :1 -query 
> >
> > That is gibberish.  It doesn't mean anything.
> >
> > What you want is:
> >
> > start /B XWin-works :0 -query host1
> > start /B XWin-works :1 -query host2
> >
> >
> > I've tested this and gotten two distinct sessions to one machine (say,
> > host1) at the same time.  I don't currently have two XDM hosts,
> > but I'm sure
> > it will work fine with two hosts.
> >
> > Let me know how this works.
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Victor Atkinson
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 5:09 PM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Re: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under
> > > v4.2.0?
> > >
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > Thanks to all for the quick replies.  Unfortunately, I haven't
> > > been able to
> > > get a workable configuration together yet.  I have tried both
> > combinations
> > > of screen 0 & 1 designations with XWin:
> > >
> > > Separate invocations:
> > >
> > > 	start /B XWin -screen 0   -query 
> > > 	start /B XWin -screen 1   -query 
> > >
> > > Single invocation:
> > >
> > > 	start /B XWin -screen 0   -query 
> > > -screen 1 
> > >  -query 
> > >
> > > And I have also tried setting the display to alternate values:
> > >
> > > 	start /B XWin -display :0 -query 
> > > 	start /B XWin -display :1 -query 
> > >
> > > as well as all combinations of display & screen (0.0, 1.0, 1.1,
> > > etc) for the
> > > two sessions, both via the command line and the DISPLAY environment
> > > variable.
> > >
> > > The results are almost always identical, first XWin starts and
> > connects to
> > > host1.  However, when the second server starts, the first screen
> > > appears to
> > > be reset to and empty X server session (just blank
> background) while the
> > > second server connects to host2.  When I am finished with host2
> > > and quit the
> > > second session (close the window), then the first session gives
> > me a login
> > > prompt at host1 again.
> > >
> > > It appears as though there is some hardwired common display
> > > behavior that is
> > > common among all server instances, even if they are started
> > from separate
> > > XWin processes.
> > >
> > > I'll keep plugging away at it.  I did setup VNC on the remote
> > hosts again,
> > > to do what I needed to do simultaneously on host1 and host2.
> > It does seem
> > > that VNC is much more of a bandwidth and processor load than
> > > XFree86, which
> > > doesn't really surprise me.  (If my remote host screen saver
> > > kicks in within
> > > a VNC client window, it nearly brings my laptop to its knees,
> but in the
> > > same circumstance XFree86 is smooth.)
> > >
> > > Victor Atkinson
> > > Syracuse, NY, USA
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Staf Verhaegen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Use a different screen number for every session
> > > > > % XWin -screen 0 width height -query host1 &
> > > > > % XWin -screen 1 width height -query host2 &
> > > > > % ...
> > > >
> > > > I don't expect this to work. Both will try to listen on
> port 6000. You
> > > have
> > > > to modify the _display_ not the _screen_number.
> > > >
> > > > bye
> > > > 	ago
> > > > --
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> > > >  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


From szydek@uiuc.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: szydek@uiuc.edu (Steven T. Zydek)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: All text being echoed in Xterms
In-Reply-To: <20020130115220.C9338@uiuc.edu>; from szydek@uiuc.edu on Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 11:52:20AM -0600
References: <20020130115220.C9338@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <20020206101610.A29383@uiuc.edu>

I posted this a little while back with no response. Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
+Steve

On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 11:52:20AM -0600, Steven T. Zydek wrote:
> Hi There,
> 
> I'm a newbie to Cygwin/XFree. I just installed Cygwin 1.3.7/Xfree v4.2 on my 
> sunpci card (basically, an Intel-based motherboard w/AMD processor running in 
> a Sun box) running WinNT 4.0. All the software has installed perfectly. I can 
> start up bash shells within Cygwin just fine, X starts up without any error 
> messages (using the default startx scripts) and xterms/xclock appear fine.
> 
> My trouble is that anytime I try to type (enter commands) in an xterm, 
> all text gets echoed twice. So, if I type: 'ls -al[ENTER]' , I get the 
> following spewed back:
> 
> llss  --aall [CR]
> [CR]
> me@machine bash>
> 
> 
> me@machine bash>
> 
> ---
> I tried to determine whether it's Xwin or the xterm. (NOTE: the Cygwin shells
> do NOT have this problem). From what I can tell it is Xwin causing the problem. 
> I was able to display a remote xterm window from a Sun box and had the same 
> trouble where everything was echoed. I checked newsgroups, faqs, web, etc. and
> no luck. Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks for any help you could provide!
> 
> Thanks,
> +Steve

-- 
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From rmedina@ivic.ve  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rmedina@ivic.ve (Rodrigo Medina)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Configuring UK keyboard and xterm ...
Message-ID: <200201130056.AAA11816@pion.ivic.ve>


Hello,
I have just installed cygwin/xfree, and I have also found that 
control -click /left/middel/right do not function with xterm. I do not
think that  is due to a bug in xterm. I have tried with a  xterm in a remote
macine that I am sure it is OK, and the behavior is the same: Nothing happens.

Rodrigo Medina
rmedina@ivic.ve


From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Unable to type letters in login to AIX box using XFree86 4.2.0 on W2K
Message-ID: 


Known problem. You have to use '-kb' parameter, keyboard extension doesn't
work with AIX. The keyboard is not "out of order" completely, but the
system behaves like AltGr key is permanently pressed. By the way this is
the reason I have to change my keyboard layout manually after every logon
to the system, what's really silly.

To Harold: I think this should be included in FAQ (and fixed, if you have
an AIX machine to test it :-)))

Pavel



                                                                                                                                           
                    "Harold Hunt"                                                                                                          
                             To:     "Moore, Billiam" ,             
                    Sent by:                   cc:                                                                                         
                    cygwin-xfree-owner@        Subject:     RE: Unable to type letters in login to AIX box using XFree86 4.2.0 on W2K      
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I've never seen this problem.  Best of luck.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Moore, Billiam
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:29 PM
> To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
> Subject: Unable to type letters in login to AIX box using XFree86 4.2.0
> on W2K
>
>
>   I have XFree86 installed on Windows 2000 SP 2 using all the defaults
(no
> mods to any config files for X) and can run local X programs (e.g. LyX)
>
> when I run
>
>     XWin -screen 0 1024 768 -query 172.16.11.155 -from 172.16.46.120
>
> to get a CDE session on an AIX box, I get the login screen but cannot
type
> in letters in the login name text box.
>
> - I can type in spaces and backspaces and the tab and enter
> buttons work so
> the keyboard is at least partially recognized.
> - The mouse is fully functional.
> - I can get to the AIX box through Hummingbirds Exceed so I am fairly
sure
> that is confgured correctly
>
>   Everything I have found in the FAQs and web searches deals with
> not being
> able to connect at all or having the wrong key map. I am using no key map
> which I understand means I am using the default US one which
> should be fine.
> Has anyone run into this before or can anyone point me in a direction to
> further trouble shoot?





From gabrielarcos@cantv.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: gabrielarcos@cantv.net (Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X11 includes and libraries path configuration
Message-ID: <002b01c19c1c$7d23cc80$0400000a@CANTV.NET>

Hi all !!

I have installed xfree binaries on cygwin, and I try to compile a simple
piece of code:

#include 

int main()
{ return 0;}

and the compiler fail, becouse it can find the file Intrinsic.h

Actually the file is in /usr/X11R6/include

what enviroment variable I have to set to the compiler can find it? and what
is the variable to the linker can find the X11 libraries?



From cpraber@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cpraber@yahoo.com (Raber Chris)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: remote xterm hangs when commands produce lots of stdout output
Message-ID: <20020111143214.70392.qmail@web13505.mail.yahoo.com>

If I do a command the produces lots of fast output to
stdout (like ls -l for a directory with lots of
entries), my remote xterms hang.

Local xterms that telnet into the remote site work
fine.

Are there some parameters I should be setting on XWin
to help with this?

TIA,

-Chris.

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From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Win XP and xfree86
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020315221625.88446.qmail@web20803.mail.yahoo.com>

Please make sure to "reply to all" when replying, so the communications will
stay on the group.  In order to run Xfree, you need to first install cygwin. 
It mentions it in the documents.  Cygwin is a great way to have a unix-like
environment on your windows PC.  It allows for porting of unix apps to windows
as well, so it is really really nice.

Once it is installed, follow the instructions for installing XFree.  It will
install much like it would on a unix machine.  I suggest that you install it in
the directories that the documentation states.

As for ISPs, I have no clue.  I use cable modem.  If your connection was
working on your DOS based X server, it should work with XFree.  Dial up
connections are always a pain for running remote X applications though.

Brian


--- "J.Wood"  wrote:
>     Hello Brian ,
> 
>               Thanks for replying to my query regarding getting the
> capability to obtain an X_Windows 
> 
>              connection on my PC which has WIN XP.
> 
>               I was thinking of trying to instal software called (I think)
> XAPPEAL (from Italy) .It seemed to
> 
>              work from DOS . I thought my 'old' PC was too small and slow ,
> so I have just got a bigger and
> 
>              faster  PC ; it has Win XP and I am not sure if it has suitable
> DOS .
> 
>               What I do a great deal is work from home , and I log into my
> College UNIX machines .I transfer
> 
>              files using FTP . The files are usually not quite compatible
> with the UNIX machines when they arrive there .
> 
>                I think X-Windows is more UNIX like .
> 
> 
>              At present my ISP is AOL , and I feel sure I wiil have to change
> to a more standard ISP . Do you
> 
>             know of a compatible ISP that offers 24/7 flat-rate ?.
> 
> 
>               I think I would have to dial-up my ISP and 'get on' .Then enter
> xfree86 and telnet or otherwise
> 
>              logon to the College UNIX machine .As I can at present telnet
> and even FTP , I do not think
> 
>              this should cause any big problems  .
> 
>              If I download xfree86 , does it matter which 'folder' I store it
> on in my PC ?.
> 
>               I assume that xfree86 has some software in it that can find out
> itself all the necessary IP
> 
>              addresses , once I get connected to my ISP and to my remote
> logon machine .
> 
> 
>                       Regards ,
> 
>                      Jim Wood
> 


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From roger.maillist@starband.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: roger.maillist@starband.net (Roger)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Window manager?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1012940140.8802.31.camel@localhost2.localdomain>

blackbox-0.62.0 (even compiled it from source on cygwin current code)
and it works like a dream.

oh, you may need some additionals like gtk and gnome stuff but there's a
site that specifie's notes on how to get allot of the gnome libraries
and packages to compile on cygwin.

blackbox-0.62.0 works like a dream here! you can find it on
sourceforge.net

there are also several method of starting xfree86 under cygwin and i
strongly believe that this blackbox and gnome libraries should be
included on the cygwin-xfree site! 





From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: No subject
In-Reply-To: <02032510021701.05608@wsjefe-info>
Message-ID: 

You'll have to ask the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list, where I have redirected
your email.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ERICK LOPEZ [mailto:sinsainf@sinsa.com.ni]
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 11:02 AM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Cc: harold@compasstechnologies.com
> Subject:
>
>
> Hi friends.
>
> I want Know if possible run Cygwin/Xfree86 same both LAN or WAN.
>
> My Server si ReHat linux 7.0
>
> We have problems with Terminal Server Project (WWW.LTSP.COM) with WAN.
>
> Please help us.
>
> Regards.
>
> ERICK.


From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XWin terminates immediately under W2K
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20020205172813.024b26c0@pop>
Message-ID: 

On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Julian Smart wrote:

> Is there any log file I can look at? 

Yes. It should be created in /tmp/XWin.log

> Or maybe there's a debug version of XWin that I can try without having 
> to recompile it myself...

Yes.
http://www-usercgi.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/test-config-1/XWin-debug.exe.bz2

This is an unstripped version of a development-server. It was build from
cvs 3 days before 4.2 got out, so it's quite up-to-date

for details see 
http://www-usercgi.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/index.php3?jump=xfree#config

bye
    ago

-- 
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From edi@serbski-institut.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Please help: XDMCP connection dog-slow
Message-ID: <20020322.102803.74731878.edi@serbski-institut.de>

Hello,

sorry if this is a bit off-topic but I was unable to find information in 
the mailing-list archives/Howtos.

I have a linux server (Mandrake 8.1) and several Windows clients
running cygwin/xfree-4.1 (plus one linux client). On some of the win98 clients,
XDMCP is *extremely* slow so it literary takes minutes to get the login screen
and log in. They all are in my /etc/hosts file, they
seem to have exactly the same protocols running, but while some react
very snappily, others are extremely sluggish. Maybe anyone can give 
me a clue what might be wrong? (I am not familiar with
TCP/IP interna, so I'm not capable of interpreting the output of
tcpdump but I can mail it to anybody willing to help.)

Cheers

Edi


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Windows based app.server
In-Reply-To: <012b01c1af09$2d603210$0201020a@POR026>
References: <200202061144.SM00180@lib15.denefield.org.uk>
	
	<012b01c1af09$2d603210$0201020a@POR026>
Message-ID: 

| > Yep there is a proggy called vnc, that allows you to export your
| > Windows-desktop to a machine which os has cvs exported to it.
| >
| >         /Andy
| 
| Citrix Metaframe (http://www.citrix.com ) sounds more like what Chris wants,
| but it's not a low budget solution I think. The ICA client is supported on
| virtually every major platform in use today. I haven't heard of similar
| products using X yet.

Ok, if it is multiple sessions on the windows machine, yep citrix is
probably the tool, I was thinking of running just one session, then
VNC suites fine.. 

Should probably have read the complete email twice :-)

        /Andy

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From elik@bhphotovideo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: elik@bhphotovideo.com (Eli Kleinman)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Dose any one know if gnome works on cygwin?
Message-ID: <3C971995.31330.1A061EC6@localhost>

Hi all

I tried compiling gtk+2.0 on cygwin and I keep on getting errors did 
any one successfully compiled gnome on cygwin?

Please help, Thanks in advance
Eli


From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: BunZip and an extra question
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
Message-ID: <20020103182213.GC17348@redhat.com>

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 04:40:48PM +0000, Mark Himsley wrote:
>On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:14:27 -0600  you wrote:
>
>>------_=_NextPart_000_01C19471.B74767D0
>>Content-Type: image/gif;
>>	name="image001.gif"
>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
>>Content-Disposition: attachment;
>>	filename="image001.gif"
>
>I think we'd all be grateful if you could stop sending HTML/GIF files to the
>recipients on this list!
>
>>Hmm trying to follow the install procedure for Xfree86 and bunzip isn't
>>happening.  Is this a separate compression app I need to install?  Also
>>is cygwin blending in with my local windows environment, I right
>>clicked in the cygwin box and got a lot of registry info and other
>>stuff as a response to the mouse click.
>
>Maybe more information from you would elicit a reply.  I'm sure that
>you understand that "isn't happening" and "got a lot of registry info
>and other stuff" does not give the list members much to go on and
>therefore I expect your request for help will go un-heeded.

Even more important -- use the correct mailing list.

Personally, I'm amazed at the amount of trouble that the simple act of
un-bzip2ing a tar archive generates for the cygwin-xfree project but
they're somewhat used to dealing with these questions.

So, send email to the cygwin-xfree mailing list and they'll probably
help you.

Can I again suggest that people redirect X-related questions to this
mailing list?

I've Cc'd this message there and reset the reply-to so that replies should
go there as well.

cgf


From gcruzicka@earthlink.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: gcruzicka@earthlink.net (Gene C. Ruzicka)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: newbie questios: mouse and command line problems
Message-ID: <006301c1c2fd$78943da0$d72af4d8@HUNG>

i just installed xfree, and i'm running into some weird problems. first,
using the left and center mouse buttons to cut and the center to paste
doesn't work when i invoke the xterm that's on my PC .  but when i
log onto my office UNIX workstation from home and run xterm
there with DISPLAY set to my PC, the cut/paste sequence works
fine.  

also, when i invoke xterm on my PC, the -title and -n options don
t work  i can't specify the window title even when i make the
request using the windowTitle resource, instead of putting the
request in the command line.

finally, is there a version of Motif somewhere that works with
Cygwin-Xfree?

thanx in advance for any and all help.

geme





From esn@infobi.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: esn@infobi.com (Erwann SIMON)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP AIX 5L : no keyboard
Message-ID: <3C87C808.2080202@infobi.com>

Hi,

I've installed cygwin/xfree (latest version) on my win2k computer to 
work with the graphical environment of an AIX 5L.
I modified the startxwin.bat in order to connect to connect to the XDM 
of the AIX ("start /B XWin -screen 0 1024 768 -query 192.168.10.25 -from 
192.168.10.12") and it works fine... exept I can't write anything :-(
The mouse works, some key maps as "tab" or "return" works but I can't 
write my username.
Note that I also tried in modifying the same way the startxwin.sh script 
or jsut with the following command line ./XWin -query 192.168.10.25 
-from 192.168.10.12


Thanks for your help

Erwann


From mail@wagnertech.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: mail@wagnertech.de (Michael Wagner, Dr.sc.nat)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XFree 4.2.0 on Windows 98 on Laptop SCENIC Mobile 360
Message-ID: <001301c1cdfb$77ea1740$0201a8c0@oemcomputer>

Hello,

I've a problem. XWin does not start.
/tmp/XWin.log:
ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 5 i: 1
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000017
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per
pix
el
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l 0 b
715
t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 2036
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 16
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing
from
 list!

Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'
--

/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi   ---->  is not installed.  ----> should
make no problem.
ls /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts:
75dpi  CID  Speedo  TTF  Type1  encodings  local  misc  util
In the description I found the hint, that the font data must not be
extracted in DOS mode. I checked it. It looks ok:
od -hc /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/fonts.dir
0000000 3938 550a 5254 5f47 5f5f 2e5f 6670 2061
          8   9  \n   U   T   R   G   _   _   _   _   .   p   f   a
0000020 612d 6f64 6562 752d 6f74 6970 2d61 656d
          -   a   d   o   b   e   -   u   t   o   p   i   a   -   m   e
0000040 6964 6d75 722d 6e2d 726f 616d 2d6c 302d
          d   i   u   m   -   r   -   n   o   r   m   a   l   -   -   0
0000060 302d 302d 302d 702d 302d 692d 6f73 3838
          -   0   -   0   -   0   -   p   -   0   -   i   s   o   8   8
0000100 3935 312d 550a 4954 5f5f 5f5f 2e5f 6670
          5   9   -   1  \n   U   T   I   _   _   _   _   _   .   p   f
0000120 2061 612d 6f64 6562 752d 6f74 6970 2d61
          a       -   a   d   o   b   e   -   u   t   o   p   i   a   -
0000140 656d 6964 6d75 692d 6e2d 726f 616d 2d6c
          m   e   d   i   u   m   -   i   -   n   o   r   m   a   l   -
0000160 302d 302d 302d 302d 702d 302d 692d 6f73
          -   0   -   0   -   0   -   0   -   p   -   0   -   i   s   o
0000200 3838 3935 312d 550a 4254 5f5f 5f5f 2e5f
          8   8   5   9   -   1  \n   U   T   B   _   _   _   _   _   .
0000220 6670 2061 612d 6f64 6562 752d 6f74 6970
          p   f   a       -   a   d   o   b   e   -   u   t   o   p   i

...... and so on.

Who can help me ????

Michael.
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Tel: 089/938576
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From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file
References: <007a01c199db$27109410$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>
Message-ID: <030901c199db$dbee2730$0200a8c0@lifelesswks>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralf Habacker" 
> That are good news. I have seen that libxslt is also released. What
about xfree ? Are there
> any plans to add xfree to the distribution ?

I hope so. The updated setup that lifted the package moratorium has been
out for a couple of months now, so there is no reason not to add X as a
package in the net distro.

Suhaib? What do you think?

Rob


From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin/xfree86
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20020319165558.0098e510@mail.univ-reims.fr>
References: <4.2.0.58.20020319165558.0098e510@mail.univ-reims.fr>
Message-ID: <20020319163808.GD8938@redhat.com>

On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 05:30:51PM +0100, Jean-Marc Nuzillard wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have downloaded today's version of cygwin, installed all packages,
>downloaded the todays's files for xfree86, installed as described.
>From bash I went to /usr/X11R6/bin and ran "sh startxwin.sh".
>I got a white window that filled the screen for half a second and then 
>disappeared.
>
>As startup-scripts.tar.gz contains a startxwin.bat file, I opened a dos 
>command window,
>went to\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin and typed startxwin.bat.
>I got shell windows entitled xterm and twm, then the white screen, then 
>nothing.
>My dos shell contains after that :
>startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows 95/98/Me
>X connection to 127.0.0.1:0.0 broken (explicit kill or sever shutdown).
>
>The enclosed file was produced by cygcheck -scv.
>
>Would be fine have X running on my PC/Windows.
>If someone can help, thanks in advance.

I've redirected this message to the proper mailing list.

cgf

>Cygwin Package Information
>Last downloaded files to: C:\Mes documents\Jean-marc\CygInst2
>Last downloaded files from: ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sources.redhat.com/pub/cygwin
>
>Package             Version             
>ash                 20020131-1          
>autoconf            2.53-1              
>autoconf-devel      2.52-4              
>autoconf-stable     2.13-4              
>automake            1.6a-1              
>automake-devel      1.5-5               
>automake-stable     1.4p5-5             
>bash                2.05a-3             
>bc                  1.06-1              
>binutils            20011002-1          
>bison               1.33-1              
>byacc               1.9-1               
>bzip2               1.0.1-6             
>clear               1.0                 
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>crypt               1.0-1               
>ctags               5.2-1               
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>dejagnu             20010117-1          
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>gperf               0.0                 
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>indent              2.2.7-2             
>irc                 20010101-1          
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>jpeg                6b-7                
>less                358-3               
>libintl             0.10.38-3           
>libintl1            0.10.40-1           
>libncurses5         5.2-1               
>libncurses6         5.2-8               
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>login               1.4-3               
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>mt                  2.0.1-1             
>mutt                1.2.5i-6            
>nano                1.0.7-1             
>ncftp               3.1.2-1             
>ncurses             5.2-8               
>newlib-man          20001118-1          
>opengl              1.1.0-5             
>openssh             3.1p1-1             
>openssl             0.9.6c-3            
>openssl-devel       0.9.6c-2            
>patch               2.5-3               
>pcre                3.7-1               
>pkgconfig           0.10.0-1            
>popt                1.6.2-1             
>python              2.2-1               
>rcs                 5.7-2               
>readline            4.2a-1              
>robots              2.0-1               
>rsync               2.5.4-1             
>rxvt                2.7.2-10            
>sed                 3.02-1              
>sh-utils            2.0-2               
>sharutils           4.2.1-2             
>shutdown            1.2-2               
>squid               2.4-STABLE20010508  
>ssmtp               2.38.7-3            
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>terminfo            5.2-1               
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>tiff                3.5.7-1             
>time                1.7-1               
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>units               1.77-1              
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>xpm-nox             4.2.0-1             
>zip                 2.3-1               
>zlib                1.1.4-1             
>
>
>Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics
>Current System Time: Tue Mar 19 17:24:51 2002
>
>Windows 98 SE Ver 4.10 Build 2222 
>
>Path:	C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin
>	C:\cygwin\bin
>	C:\cygwin\bin
>	c:\WINDOWS
>	c:\WINDOWS\COMMAND
>	c:\PROGRA~1\TEX\TEXMF\BIN
>	c:\PROGRA~1\TEX\DVIWIN
>	c:\PROGRA~1\TEX\WINGUT
>	c:\GSTOOLS\GSVIEW
>	c:\PROGRA~1\TCL\BIN
>	c:\PERL\BIN
>	c:\JDK1.3\BIN
>
>SysDir: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
>WinDir: C:\WINDOWS
>
>HOME = `C:\cygwin\home\Pharmacognosie'
>MAKE_MODE = `unix'
>PWD = `/home/Pharmacognosie'
>USER = `Pharmacognosie'
>
>BIBINPUTS = `.;c:/progra~1/tex/texmf/bibtex/bib'
>BLASTER = `A220 I5 D1 T4 P330'
>BSTINPUTS = `.;c:/progra~1/tex/texmf/bibtex/bst'
>CMDLINE = `bash --login -i'
>COMSPEC = `C:\COMMAND.COM'
>DVIFONTS = `c:\progra~1\tex\texmf\fonts\pk\cx'
>EDITEUR = `c:\progra~1\tex\emacs\mewin.exe'
>GUTBS = `c:\progra~1\tex\texmf'
>GUTSL = `c:/progra~1/tex/texmf'
>MAKETEXPK = `C:\COMMAND.COM /E:4096 /C c:\progra~1\tex\texmf\bin\maketexp %n %d %b %m'
>MANPATH = `:/usr/ssl/man'
>MFBASES = `.;c:/progra~1/tex/texmf/ini'
>MFINPUTS = `.;c:/progra~1/tex/texmf/fonts/src//'
>MFPOOL = `c:/progra~1/tex/texmf/ini'
>OLDPWD = `/usr/X11R6/bin'
>PROMPT = `$p$g'
>PS1 = `\[\033]0;\w\007
>\033[32m\]\u@\h \[\033[33m\w\033[0m\]
>$ '
>SHLVL = `1'
>TEMP = `c:\WINDOWS\TEMP'
>TERM = `cygwin'
>TEXCONFIG = `c:/progra~1/tex/texmf/ps'
>TEXFONTS = `c:\progra~1\tex\texmf\fonts\tfm'
>TEXFORMATS = `.;c:/progra~1/tex/texmf/frm/french/tex--xet'
>TEXGUT = `c:/progra~1/tex/texmf'
>TEXINPUTS = `.;c:/progra~1/tex/texmf/tex//;c:/progra~1/tex/texmf/generic/french//;c:/progra~1/tex/texmf/latex//'
>TEXPOOL = `c:/progra~1/tex/texmf/ini/tex--xet'
>TEXROOT = `c:\progra~1\tex\texmf;c:\progra~1\tex\texmf\tex\\;c:\progra~1\tex\texmf\latex\\'
>TEXTFM = `c:\progra~1\tex\texmf\fonts\tfm'
>TEXVFONTS = `c:\progra~1\tex\texmf\fonts\vf'
>TFMFONTS = `.;c:/progra~1/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/'
>TMP = `c:\WINDOWS\TEMP'
>VISION = `c:\progra~1\tex\dviwin\dviwin2.exe'
>VOIR = `c:\progra~1\tex\dviwin'
>WINBOOTDIR = `C:\WINDOWS'
>WINDIR = `C:\WINDOWS'
>WIN_GUT = `c:\progra~1\tex\wingut'
>_ = `/usr/bin/cygcheck'
>
>Use `-r' to scan registry
>
>a:  fd           N/A    N/A                    
>c:  hd  FAT32  10049Mb  45% CP    UN           EURO_TEK
>e:  cd           N/A    N/A                    
>f:  cd           N/A    N/A                    
>
>.              /cygdrive  user    textmode,noumount
>C:/cygwin      /          system  textmode
>C:/cygwin/bin  /usr/bin   system  textmode
>C:/cygwin/lib  /usr/lib   system  textmode
>
>Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe
>Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe
>Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe
>Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe
>Found: c:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\find.exe
>Warning: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe hides c:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\find.exe
>Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe
>Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe
>Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe
>Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe
>Found: C:\cygwin\bin\make.exe
>Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe
>
>  701k 2001/09/13 C:\WINDOWS\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygwin1.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/9/13 5:54
>    Cygwin DLL version info:
>        DLL version: 1.3.3
>        DLL epoch: 19
>        DLL bad signal mask: 19005
>        DLL old termios: 5
>        DLL malloc env: 28
>        API major: 0
>        API minor: 46
>        Shared data: 3
>        DLL identifier: cygwin1
>        Mount registry: 2
>        Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions
>        Cygwin registry name: Cygwin
>        Program options name: Program Options
>        Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2
>        Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags
>        Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix
>        Cygdrive default prefix: 
>        Build date: Wed Sep 12 23:54:31 EDT 2001
>        Shared id: cygwin1S3
>
>   19k 2002/02/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cyggdbm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/20 4:05
>   22k 2001/12/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygintl-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/12/13 10:28
>   45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygform5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 7:28
>   26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygmenu5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 7:27
>  156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygncurses++5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 7:29
>  226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygncurses5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 7:17
>   15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygpanel5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 7:27
>   35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygform6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 7:03
>   20k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygmenu6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 7:03
>  175k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygncurses++6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 7:03
>  202k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygncurses6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 7:03
>   12k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygpanel6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 7:03
>   17k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cyghistory4.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/7 5:34
>  108k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygreadline4.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/7 5:34
>   20k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cyghistory5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/13 2:27
>  121k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygreadline5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/13 2:27
>   40k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcre.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygpcre.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 23:15
>   39k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcreposix.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygpcreposix.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 23:15
>   50k 2002/03/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygz.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/12 5:38
>   56k 2000/12/03 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz21.0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygbz21.0.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/21 0:53
>  107k 2002/03/07 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcurl-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygcurl-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/7 16:03
>  390k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygtcl80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 2:39
>    5k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>   10k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygtclreg80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 2:39
>   81k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitcl30.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygitcl30.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 2:43
>   35k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitk30.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygitk30.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 2:43
>  623k 2000/12/05 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygtk80.dll" v0.0 ts=2000/11/26 2:43
>   45k 2002/02/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygjbig1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/8 0:59
>  119k 2002/02/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygjpeg6b.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/9 6:19
>   21k 2001/06/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygintl.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/6/20 19:09
>  170k 2002/01/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygpng2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/21 2:05
>   35k 2002/02/04 C:\cygwin\bin\cygltdl-3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygltdl-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/4 2:56
> 1248k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxml2-2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygxml2-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 4:45
>   50k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygexslt-0.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygexslt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 7:24
>  152k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxslt-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygxslt-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 7:19
>   15k 2002/03/17 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxsltbreakpoint-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygxsltbreakpoint-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/17 7:24
>  621k 2002/01/16 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcrypto.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygcrypto.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/16 10:54
>  156k 2002/01/16 C:\cygwin\bin\cygssl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygssl.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/16 10:54
>  253k 2002/02/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygtiff3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/10 9:34
>   41k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-noX4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygXpm-noX4.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 19:49
>   46k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-X4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygXpm-X4.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 19:50
>  751k 2002/02/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygwin1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/25 17:14
>    Cygwin DLL version info:
>        DLL version: 1.3.10
>        DLL epoch: 19
>        DLL bad signal mask: 19005
>        DLL old termios: 5
>        DLL malloc env: 28
>        API major: 0
>        API minor: 51
>        Shared data: 3
>        DLL identifier: cygwin1
>        Mount registry: 2
>        Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions
>        Cygwin registry name: Cygwin
>        Program options name: Program Options
>        Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2
>        Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags
>        Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix
>        Cygdrive default prefix: 
>        Build date: Mon Feb 25 11:14:34 EST 2002
>        Shared id: cygwin1S3
>
>Use -h to see help about each section

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From cpraber@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cpraber@yahoo.com (Raber Chris)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window.
Message-ID: <20020111144903.70080.qmail@web13504.mail.yahoo.com>

Well, I am a bit confused about your question.  If you
are looking to run
annother window manager, but not run it from the
Windows box, then run it from
the the linux box...

Get the XFree/Cygwin server up
>From the Linux box, run the windows manager... (ex.
fvwm -display windows:0)

I like using the XDMCP feature, documented on the
website.  XDMCP allows you to
log in remotely, and ship your desktop to the
XFree/Cygwin server.  It works
well.  

Brian


--- Raber Chris  wrote:
> Reposting, I don't need a direct email response. I
> found the WEB UI to the list archive...
> 
> First, thanks for Xfree/cygwin. Just what I needed
to
> do some remote Linux work from my PC.
> 
> I have cygwin/xfree and can start remote xterms from
a
> linux server just fine. I'd like to be able to run a
> netscape or other browser from my remote linux
> machine, but trying to run netscape doesn't seem to
> work.
> 
> I am using the twm. Do I have to run kde or gnome to
> pull this off? What is the simplest way to use some
> other window manager? I'd prefer not to have to
> install another wm on my pc if I don't have to.
> 
> Suggestions are much appreciated.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> -Chris.
> 

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From slod@isd.dp.ua  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: slod@isd.dp.ua (Sergei Lodyagin)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfs under Win2k
Message-ID: <3C863E6E.9010605@isd.dp.ua>

Is there any HOWTO how to setup X font server under cygwin on Win2k?

I've noticed that the line

dir ":7100"

in the /etc/X11/XftConfig has no effect.

Thanks,
Sergei Lodyagin.



From jmp@micromuse.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jmp@micromuse.com (Jean-Marc Paulin)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: IceWM?
References: <000001c1b0bb$c8edb8c0$1009a8c0@extrememotivation.com>
Message-ID: <00c801c1b0bd$d7230ab0$d527a8c0@CACHAREL>

I had to switch the creen to FullScreen and color depth to 16 bits (or 65536
col)
then it worked for me (slowly, but worked)

hth

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean LeBlanc" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 4:15 PM
Subject: IceWM?


> Earlier I asked about window managers - I'm trying to get IceWM working
for
> the time being.
> I downloaded binary edition, changed startxwin.sh according to directions,
> and run startxwin.sh.
> The server comes up with a green background, and an xterm...but the xterm
> doesn't look right
> (no edges or title bar), and there is nothing else on the screen.  Any
ideas
> on what I'm doing wrong here?
>
> Cheers,
> Sean
>



From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: 8+24 bit display for XFree Cygwin ?
In-Reply-To: <3C6E6989.8020700@bogdanov.fsbusiness.co.uk>
Message-ID: 

Alex,

I implemented the 8 bit color support in Cygwin/XFree86 and I've looked at
several ways of running with support for two color depths at once... I was
unsuccessful.

If there is such a method, I would like to know about it.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Alex Bogdanov
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 9:16 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: 8+24 bit display for XFree Cygwin ?
>
>
>     Hello Cygwin XFree experts,
> Does anyone know if it's possible to setup cygwin XFree Xserver to run
> in 8+24 bit mode similar
> to Sun Solaris one ?
> Problem that I am facing now is that when I try to run package from Sun
> workstation were there
> are some modules that requires 24 bit (OpenGL ones) and some supports
> only 8 bit.
>     Regards,
>     Alex
>


From nigel@bprj.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: nigel@bprj.co.uk (Nigel Hathaway)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Wierd keymappings and missing Meta
Message-ID: <200201281534.g0SFYC017345@jeeves.brpj.co.uk>

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From "gala"@zoran.co.il  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: "gala"@zoran.co.il (Gal Aviel)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Win98 Error - "Could not create primary surface"
References: 
Message-ID: <200202071633.SAA09229@zoran.co.il>

Hi Harold,

I updated my display drivers, and the problem is fixed !

I cannot thank you enough !

Now I don't have to ask the system group
to install expensive x-server on my PC, I have full
control !!

(and yet again the myth of "no support/help for free software"
was shattered ... )

Thanks a million times ..

Gal.



Harold Hunt wrote:

> Gal,
>
> > I'm trying to install xfree 4.0.2 on Win98/cygwin.
>
> Just a quick check before I delve into the details:  you did mean _4.2.0_,
> right?  If you meant 4.0.2 then we probably can't help you :)
>
> > A more specific error message is given in
> > the xwin.log file (attached). Also, the cygwin.out file
> > (result of running 'cygcheck -s -v -r > cygcheck.out').
> > is attached.
>
> Thanks for supplying XWin.log, that really helped to diagnose the problem.
>
> I looked up DirectDraw error 8876024e, which is named:
> DDERR_UNSUPPORTEDMODE.
>
> Basically I'm going to guess that your video card drivers are not very
> cooperative with DirectDraw.  The most likely solution would be to try
> upgrading your video drivers and make sure that you have DirectX 8.1
> installed.  Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ to upgrade DirectX 8.1
> (and to get lots of other Windows bug fixes, etc.).
>
> Let us know if new drivers fix the problem.
>
> Harold
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From Patrick@JGSullivan.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Patrick@JGSullivan.com (Patrick Jaromin)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDCMP
In-Reply-To: <20020218132551.8796.JOOPVANDEWEGE@mococo.nl>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020218111743.02365570@mail01.jgsullivan.com>

Joop-

Thanks for the reply. I made the changes you specified, but still no joy.

Digging a little deeper into the Xsetup script, I noticed the call to 
domainname.
This system (as it turns out) was not properly setup on a domain....domainname
was returning null. Running domainname and adding the server to the appropriate
domain resolved my problem.

I'm still uncertain why it worked properly on one of the windows systems, 
but now
I'm *finally* humming along on all.

Thanks!

- Patrick

At 01:30 PM 2/18/2002 +0100, Joop wrote:
>You wrote:
> > First, some new info -- I accidentally left a "hung" session open overnight
> > and returned to find the CDE login window! It turns out that it *does* 
> work,
> > but takes roughly 15 - 20minutes before the actual login window appears
> > on the "non-working" systems. Additionally, some apps don't appear to work
> > properly even after the login succeeds. However, if I use the same 
> login on the
> > working system, all apps work as expected. The error messages lead me to
> > believe it is a font issue of some kind....which appears to be supported by
> > looking at a successful login vs. a hung one...the line it's hung up on 
> appears
> > to do with fonts.
> >
> > On Solaris 8, we are connecting through the server process dtlogin.
> > When running that in debug mode, I find that the difference between the
> > "hanging" machines
> > and the working one is:
> >
> > -- snip --
> > (chi70:0) setLang() - Current Lang = C
> > (chi70:0) setLang() - Desired Lang = C
> > (chi70:0) setLang() - Locale has NOT changed
> > (chi70:0) LANG=C
> > (chi70:0) Source(): /usr/dt/config/Xsetup
> >
> > This is where it "hangs"...when I connect with the working system, it is
> > identical (except for IP address)
> > but continues after the "Source()" line as follows:
> >
> > --snip--
> > (chi54:0) ApplyFontPathMods() for chi54.chicago.jgsullivan.com:0
> > (chi54:0)   Foreign display
> > (chi54:0) setLang ()
> > (chi54:0) setLang() - Current Lang = C
> > (chi54:0) setLang() - Desired Lang = C
> > (chi54:0) setLang() - Locale has NOT changed
> > (chi54:0) LANG=C
> > (chi54:0) Greeter environment:
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > --snip--
> >
> > Any further suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> >
>See message msg00922 from me which says:
>I would to like to add the following:
>I had  no problems connecting to Solaris8 using Reflection but using
>Xfree didn't work except on one server.
>After alot of playing around I seemed to have found the problem.
>If LOCALE is set to anything else then C then I can't connect using
>XFree. Solution: copy (onSolaris box) /usr/dt to /etc/dt and edit
>Xconfig, change LANG from undef to C.
>--
>
>The commandline I use to start XDCMP from my windows box is the
>following:
>  c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe -query %1 -from 195.193.4.46 -fp 
> tcp/%1:7100 -screen 0 800 600
>
>  This part of a batch file which asks for input which replaces the %1.
>  Using this I have managed to strip my cygwin+Xwin installation down to
>  ~4Mb ;-)
>
>  Joop
>
>
>--
>Joop 


From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP AIX 5L : no keyboard
Message-ID: 


Hi Erwann,

This works for AIX 4.3:
Download the xmodmap.fr file to your AIX machine and run
xmodmap xmodmap.fr
AFTER logging on. It's silly way (you have to logon with us keyboard and
run it every times), but it works. I didn't find better solution.
I don't recommend to put this command to .dtprofile, because it corrupts
keyboard layout for console login
(or you have to resolve in .dtprofile, if you are logging from
console/network).

Please keep responses to the mailing list.

Pavel



                                                                                                                                         
                    "Erwann                                                                                                              
                    SIMON"               To:     Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz                                                                 
                                      Subject:     Re: XDMCP AIX 5L : no keyboard                                                     
                                                                                                                                         
                    08.03.2002                                                                                                           
                    11:14                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                         




 Hi Pavel,

Thanks for your help but I still have another problem : I'm french and
using an AZERTY keyboard but the keyboard is now in QWERTY, even if  I
load the good keymap (xmodmap.fr). I'm currently looking for the answer
but I'll be really pleased if you could help me again.

Regards,

Erwann








From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Integrating xwinclip support
References: 
Message-ID: <041901c1ac46$2d6de6f0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks>

Can you make it still be an X client? If you can check that there are >1
clients avaiable, and detach + return when there aren't...

Rob


From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <002d01c1c9a0$1ce1b970$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>

>
> On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
>
> > Alexander,
> >
> > Because the following article:
> >
> >
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=
> /library/en-us/wcegmm/htm/
> > ddover_51.asp
> >
> > states that:
> >
> > "BltFast cannot be used on surfaces that have
> an attached clipper."
>
> Ok.
>
> > We use a clipper to account for any other
> Windows window overlaying our
> > window, which would cause a portion of our blit
> destiation to be
> > undrawable... which would mean that we wouldn't
> be allowed to use BltFast.
> >
> > Now... could we use BltFast in DirectDraw
> fullscreen modes?
>
> Not needed. The blitting does not slow down the
> server significantly. I
> think the cygwin socket layer slow much more.

Do you have seen the lmbench results on the cygwin list
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2002-01/msg01719.html
This confirm your statement.

*Local* Communication bandwidths in MB/s - bigger is better
-----------------------------------------------------------
Host                OS  Pipe AF    TCP  File   Mmap  Bcopy
Bcopy  Mem   Mem
                             UNIX      reread reread (libc)
(hand) read write
--------- ------------- ---- ---- ---- ------ ------ ------ 
------ ---- -----
BRAMSCHE  CYGWIN_NT-5.0 93.9 17.6 40.7  335.0  477.7  145.0
134.0 477. 195.9
BRAMSCHE   Linux 2.2.18 343. 235. 64.4  177.7  238.5   71.5
61.4 238.  75.3

I have done some analysing work with this and with the
cygwin daemon (cygserver transport classes) there may be a
way in the future to implement unix domain sockets with
named pipes which speed up unix domain sockets up to 250
MB/s, as I have measured with a quick an dirty sample
implementation. (Unfortunally currently I have no time to
work on)

Another way seems to me in using local connection for the
xtrans layer, but there are two ioctl functions missing in
cygwin I_FDINSERT and I_RECVFD.

I_FDINSERT
Creates a message from specified buffer(s), adds information
about another STREAM, and sends the message downstream.

I_RECVFD
Retrieves the reference to an open file description from a
message written to a STREAMS-based pipe using the I_SENDFD
command, and allocates a new file descriptor in the calling
process that refers to this open file description.

In any case there is some work to do.

Regards
Ralf



From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP to Solaris Hangs on specific W2k systems, not all
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020208093013.029ae868@mail01.jgsullivan.com>
Message-ID: 

Patrick,

One question for starters: can you start a local Cygwin/XFree86 session
(without XDMCP) on the machines that will not connect with XDMCP?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Patrick Jaromin
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 3:50 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: XDMCP to Solaris Hangs on specific W2k systems, not all
>
>
> I'm posting this to the newsgroup after what I believe was an
> exhaustive search
> of the archives...my apologies if I've missed a previously posted
> solution.
>
> I've got 3 W2k systems attempting to connect to a couple Solaris 8 boxes.
> One system connected immediately, without any fuss using the basic:
> XWin.exe -query  -from 
>
> When I attempt this with the other two, the program hangs shortly after
> displaying the black screen and hourglass cursor. Only right-click-close
> or task manager will kill the app.
>
> After reading a few posts and the FAQ (on Sun's lack of 24-bit
> color depth
> support),
> I noticed that the two that didn't work have video cards that
> only support
> 8, 16 and 24 bit color depth
> -- while the working system supported and was set to 32 bit.
>
> Changing the other two systems to 16 or 8 bit didn't help....same hang.
>
> Replacing the video card on one with an NVidia with 32-bit support didn't
> work either...same hang.
>
> I also attempted the -fp parameter even though it didn't appear to be a
> font issue.
>
> The logs I'm familiar with (through previous postings) don't seem to
> provide much information...and
> look nearly identical in both the working and hanging case...with, of
> course the major exception that
> the log stops after the hang while the working system logs
> additional info.
>
>
> The XWin.log file looks like this: (with the -audit option)
>
> ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
> winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1280 h 1024
> _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits
> per pixel
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 996 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found LEFT auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - FwinCloseScreenShadowDDNL () - Freeing
> screen resources
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - Not changing video mode
> winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 5120
> winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff
> BPRGB 8 d 32
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 32
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winCloseScreenShadowDDNL () - Freeing screen resources
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - Not changing video mode
> winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 5120
> winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff
> BPRGB 8 d 32
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 32
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> :22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 disconnected
> AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3
> connected from IP
> 192.168.2.27 port 34622
>    Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: 58
> AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 disconnected
> AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3
> connected from IP
> 192.168.2.27 port 34623
>    Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: 58
> AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 disconnected
> AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3
> connected from IP
> 192.168.2.27 port 34624
>    Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: 58
> AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 disconnected
> AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3
> connected from IP
> 192.168.2.27 port 34625
>    Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: 58
> AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 disconnected
> AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3
> connected from IP
> 192.168.2.27 port 34626
>    Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: 58
> AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:16 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3 disconnected
> AUDIT: Fri Feb  8 09:22:17 2002: 1616 XWin.exe: client 3
> connected from IP
> 192.168.2.27 port 34627
>    Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: 58
>
>
> and /var/dt/Xerrors looks the same (until the hang) for the
> working machine
> and the ones
> that don't:
>
> X Error of failed request:  86
>    Major opcode of failed request:  51 (X_SetFontPath)
>    Serial number of failed request:  10
>    Current serial number in output stream:  12
> X Error of failed request:  86
>    Major opcode of failed request:  51 (X_SetFontPath)
>    Serial number of failed request:  10
>    Current serial number in output stream:  12
> X Error of failed request:  86
>    Major opcode of failed request:  51 (X_SetFontPath)
>    Serial number of failed request:  10
>    Current serial number in output stream:  12
> X Error of failed request:  86
>    Major opcode of failed request:  51 (X_SetFontPath)
>    Serial number of failed request:  10
>    Current serial number in output stream:  12
> X Error of failed request:  86
>    Major opcode of failed request:  51 (X_SetFontPath)
>    Serial number of failed request:  10
>    Current serial number in output stream:  12
>
>
>
> Is there anything else I can try? Did I miss something or are there other
> logs to check?
>
> Thank you.
>
> - Patrick
>
>
>


From mielikki1@subdimension.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: mielikki1@subdimension.com (mielikki1)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Xlib: No protocol specified (connection refused by server)
Message-ID: <3c5a2261.4342.1804289383@subdimension.com>

I hadn't been and I was really hoping that would fix it. It
certainly would be a problem, because I hadn't done the
xhost.

However, I followed the instructions there and still get the
same result:

  Xlib: connection to "x.y.z.t:0.0" refused by server
  Xlib: No protocol specified
  Error: Can't open display: x.y.z.t:0.0

Wait! I just followed the SSH instructions and it said it
was making a .Xauthority file and that worked. (Now that I
think of it, I was logging in with SSH but then following
the telnet instructions, e.g., setting the DISPLAY by hand).

I feel really bad that this was all my fault for not
following the directions. Thank you so much for your help.

If someone wants to put that error message in the FAQ, that
might be nice. (Although, if I'm the only one who ran into
it, I guess it's not that 'frequent'.)

Thanks again for the help!

> Were you following the instructions at:
>
> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-apps.html
>
>
> If not, follow them and see what happens.
>
> Harold
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From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under v4.2.0?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Victor Atkinson wrote:
> My question is:  Is it possible to create multiple simultaneous sessions,

It should be. Start the first Xserver with XWin :0 -query host0, the second
with XWin :1 -query host1 and so on.

bye
	ago
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: startxwin.bat gone?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Lars,

You either didn't download a file, or you didn't extract it, because
startup-scripts.tgz is listed as required:
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/setup-cygwin-xfree-downloading.html

Instructions for extracting startup-scripts.tgz are given in item 8 below:
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/setup-cygwin-xfree-installing.html

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 2:47 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: startxwin.bat gone?
>
>
> A file, startxwin.bat used to be included with earlier versions of
> cygwin-xfree. I just installed the (required) packages of cygwin-xfree
> 4.2, and couldn't find the file. Has it been removed? startxwin is a
> convelient way of starting up X because it also starts up twm and xterm
> on the same time.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Lars.
>
> --
> Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
>
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: startxwin.bat gone?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Lars,

First things first: always send your questions to the mailing list, not to
one person (even if that person has just answered another one of your
questions); you are having a discussion with the mailing list, not with a
single individual.

The vi package is vim... which you could have found out by looking at:
http://cygwin.com/packages/

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lars Jensen [mailto:jensen@physics.unr.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:36 AM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Subject: RE: startxwin.bat gone?
>
>
> Thanks Harold. Another question: which cygwin package is vi in - I can't
> find that either?
>
> Lars.
>
> On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
>
> > Lars,
> >
> > You either didn't download a file, or you didn't extract it, because
> > startup-scripts.tgz is listed as required:
> > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/setup-cygwin-xfree-downloading.html
> >
> > Instructions for extracting startup-scripts.tgz are given in
> item 8 below:
> > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/setup-cygwin-xfree-installing.html
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 2:47 AM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: startxwin.bat gone?
> > >
> > >
> > > A file, startxwin.bat used to be included with earlier versions of
> > > cygwin-xfree. I just installed the (required) packages of cygwin-xfree
> > > 4.2, and couldn't find the file. Has it been removed? startxwin is a
> > > convelient way of starting up X because it also starts up twm
> and xterm
> > > on the same time.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Lars.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> > > Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
>


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X crashes without any error message
In-Reply-To: <20020307094406.GC1112@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
References: 
	<20020307094406.GC1112@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: 

| > But if I try to run the XWin.exe, it crashes without a message. The X 
| > server window appears for about a second, and then all is gone. Have anyone 

Xwin.exe, what happens if you try startxwin.bat? or startxwin.sh?

| I hope Chris Faylor is reading this, is there any chance of cygwin 
| defaulting to binary mounts ? or is there some sinister reason for not
| doing this ?

Hmm when I do installations, binary is default for my mounts? Or have
I missed something.. I wonder if the binary/text problem isn't some
kind of user klicking happily :-) (not blaming the user, but the
availability and text sounds better :-) 

        /Andy

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Installation on CD-Rom, Copying a whole installation
In-Reply-To: <20020317225326.7716B4A5D@flognat.myip.org>
References: <20020317225326.7716B4A5D@flognat.myip.org>
Message-ID: 

| - if all this is not possible, is there anybody out there who has written a 
| nice installation-skript that installs xfree after cygwin is installed (this 
| should not be too difficult for the average pupil) and can be edited to 
| install some software too? If not, I will probably try to write one myself, 
| but of course I??m not interested in reinventing the wheel...

The normal Xfree installation is done through a script  
        [your fav. mirror]/cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0/Xinstall.sh

What to do I think is like throw a selection of the contents (and
unpacked extract.exe.gz) of
        [your fav. mirror]/cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0/ 
and I think the students will survive running Xinstall.sh from there in
their bash window.. 

        /Andy

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86 4.2.0
References: <20020121002245.F2502@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <036901c1a231$010cae30$0200a8c0@lifelesswks>


===
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hourihane" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:22 AM
Subject: XFree86 4.2.0


> XFree86 4.2.0 has been tagged and the binaries are showing up on
> ftp.xfree86.org now.
>
> Are we bothering with a distribution as per the normal XFree86
approach?
> or is anyone working on distributing XFree86 4.2.0 via the setup.exe
> mechanism ?

All that should be needed (as a starting point) for a setup.exe based
distribution (if your current tarballs are rooted at / ) is to
* Create a src package(s) as appropriate. You can have one for all the
binaries (*)
* Rename any hardcoded config files that users might change to
foo.default or similar.
* If you've got scripts to do post-extraction tasks, such as create
desktop icons or the like, place them in /etc/postinstall/packagename.sh
* Create setup.hint files - one per .tar.gz|bz2/
* Check with http://www.cygwin.com/setup.html to see if anything has
been missed.

(*) via a little trickery.


Rob


From abruns@ftk.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: abruns@ftk.de (Alexander Bruns)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xterm ofer ssh to my local xfree/xwin on windows 2000 with umlaut-problems
Message-ID: <010601c1b3b4$353c3d30$580eb084@evel>

Hi,

on my german Windows 2000 installation I have a running XWIN and cygwin-
installation. When I make a SSH-connection with Secure-CRT to a
Linux-SSH-Server, I can forwart X11 to my local X-Server Running on
xfree under cygwin! That works fine!

But for example, I open in the ssh-bash an "xterm &" and the xterm opens on
my localy xfree/cygwin, I have a different language in the xterm-bash.

I cannot user the "??????" etc.

When I make this with a booted linux on my side instead of windows and make
a ssh and the x11-forwarding to my local linux-xfree, I have the german
umlauts etc.

How Do I get this running under cygwin?


Greetings


Alex




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From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Q: Cygwin/Xfree is running very slow... any hints ?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020129202641.28077.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com>

Jean,

So you said earlier that you were running ICE Window manager... Did you compile
(or acquire binaries) for the most recent version of ICE?  Have you tried twm
instead?  I am pretty sure that is packaged with the Cygwin/XFree binaries.  I
know twm is much smaller and less complex than ICE.  If it is not, do a quick
search through /usr/X11R6/bin for *wm*, and try to run one of the window
managers you already have.  Possibly ICE is the problem?

Just a thought,
Brian


--- Harold Hunt  wrote:
> Brian,
> 
> > Make sure you are running engine 4.
> 
> That is somewhat misleading advice.  There is code in the server that
> detects which engines types are supported.  Engine 4, the best performing
> engine, is used whenever it is supported.  Thus, to tell the user to use
> engine 4 is likely to just send them on a wild goose chase.  Jean-Marc has
> Windows 2000 which means that DirectX 4+ is installed, so XWin will always
> use engine 4 on his system.
> 
> Harold
> 


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From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Thanks for the message
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 



> > I have tried
> > xmodmap xmodmap.fr
> > setxkbmap -layout fr
> > XWin -query "my server" +xb -xkbmap fr

I am building support for the config file into xfree. The xkb code seems to 
work well. You can get the preview from my website 
http://www-usercgi.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree

> > Nothing works : "Could'nt connect to server" or other message
> > In your FAQ, it's very simple, but it doesn't work in my configuration, I
> > think xdm-config is not read (I put an echo "here xdm-config" put
> > it doesn't appear)

Where have you put the message?

bye
    ago
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From steve_obrien@hp.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: steve_obrien@hp.com (O'BRIEN,STEVE (HP-UnitedKingdom,ex1))
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: ORBit install
Message-ID: <72FAAE98015DD511B42600D0B747AC7F01471E1A@kipling.br.itc.hp.com>

Thanks for the hints Rob. I'll have a look at this again as soon as I get
the chance. It will be some time before I will have a chance to build a
debug cygwin1.dll though.
Steven

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Collins [mailto:robert.collins@itdomain.com.au]
> Sent: 21 February 2002 12:25
> To: O'BRIEN,STEVE (HP-UnitedKingdom,ex1); cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: ORBit install
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: O'BRIEN,STEVE (HP-UnitedKingdom,ex1) 
> 
> > Hi Rob
> > I didn't mean to suggest that there is a problem with the 
> > cygwin pthread
> > implementation. 
> 
> There may be :}. I'm not concerned if there is or is not, but 
> rather with the fault you see - when we examine that we can 
> lay blame :}.
> 
> > Sometimes I get:
> > GThread-ERROR **: file gthread-posix.c: line 55 
> > (g_mutex_new_posix_impl):
> > error Device or resource busy during pthread_mutex_init 
> > ((pthread_mutex_t *)
> > result, ((void *)0))
> 
> What does gthread-posix.c line 55 look like.
>  
> > Sometimes I get a segmentation fault
> 
> Can you duplicate this with gdb, or with strace, or with JIT 
> debugging (see how-debuging-works.txt in the cygwin source 
> directory.You'll need a debug cygwin1.dll for tracking this down.
>  
> > Sometimes the test completes ok
> > 
> > Failures appear at different points in the program, so I 
> > can't even say that
> > the "resource busy" always occurs at X and segmentation fault 
> > always occurs
> > at Y.
> 
> Thats ok. If we can pin one down with a good backtrace, it 
> may make the fault visible.
>  
> > When running in gdb the debug symbol table becomes corrupted, so the
> > function names it reports do not match the file:lineno 
> > reported - so the
> > program is clearly trashing memory on its way.
> 
> Optimisation can also cause that, I wouldn't assume that the 
> symbol table is necessarily corrupt. What does bt full, and 
> info threads show?
>  
> > I *think* that a mutex is not being set properly, or is being 
> > corrupted when
> > the memory managment error kicks in, so that two threads 
> > attempt to free the
> > same memory, or one uses memory that is already freed by 
> another. All
> > guesswork though, because I have not been able to trace the 
> > execution in
> > gdb.
> 
> Yah, single stepping with threads is iffy at best, they tend 
> not do show the fault. Breakpoints are your friend :}.
> 
> ROb
> 


From cygwin@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Tips?
In-Reply-To: <1012940570.8808.40.camel@localhost2.localdomain>
References: <1012940570.8808.40.camel@localhost2.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20020205211015.GC8527@redhat.com>

On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:22:48PM -0500, Roger wrote:
>Cygwin is really cool when it is executing under winxp with a 2x750P3
>and >256MB ram!  
>
>using rxvt and bash shell with Lucida Console font.
>
>also have blackbox-0.62.0 on xfree-4.1 installed (xfree-4.2 as soon as i
>get it compiled).
>
>1) It is truely nice to be able to manipulate files as easily on my
>linux o/s.  i've always hated the dos shell (is command.com & cmd.com)
>as it's difficult to actually use them.
>
>2) It is really really nice to be able to compile windows exe files
>without spending $$$ on a windows compiler!
>
>2) xfree86 works nicely also!
>
>Are there anymore tips on integrating cygwin with windows more
>someplace?  like a faq?  i've already reviewed all of cygwin.com.

Huh?  There are FAQs on the Cygwin site.  If you have reviewed the site,
you've found the FAQs.

If you have specific questions that aren't in the FAQs then ask them.

>If you can, cc stuff to my roger@linuxfreemail.com account as my
>starband.com account it in the process of being cancelled. thanx.

http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

cgf


From bause@merkur.hrz.tu-freiberg.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: bause@merkur.hrz.tu-freiberg.de (Tim Bause)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Font Path
Message-ID: <3C639F2C.1F093795@merkur.hrz.tu-freiberg.de>

dear all,

recently I tried to install the cygwin/XFree86 and run into Problems.
First of all I was suprised not to find the XF86Config file. Starting
the xserver, a fatal server error occured: "could not open default font
'fixed'.
Seems that the font path is broken. So, how do I configure the font
path?

Tim Bause
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From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XF86Config
In-Reply-To: <00af01c1c5b4$c23e4310$4902010a@gvv>
Message-ID: 

On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Valeriy Glushkov wrote:

> Hi Alexander,
> 
> By the way, when the official Cygwin/Xfree86 will be able to parse
> XF86Config (if will be) ?
> I tried your experimental release. It looks pretty good especially XKB
> section support.

I just need some time to complete the pointer configuration. Then I'll 
generate a patch again.

bye
	ago
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From michael.anderson@centurytel.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: michael.anderson@centurytel.com (Michael Anderson)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Keyboard problem
Message-ID: <000001c19920$1cba0200$46e3000a@c0000fi59>


I am having a problem with my text turning to uppercase, sometimes I can
toggle it with CAPs-Lock, but there are other times that no matter what I
attempt to press I can not get the text to return to lowercase. I have seen
some issues that are similar on the archive but nothing exactly to this
nature. Is there any workarounds? Any help would be appreciated.



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From Oleg.Giwodiorow@gmx.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Oleg.Giwodiorow@gmx.net (Oleg Giwodiorow)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: How can i link to X11 with gcc?
Message-ID: 

Hi,
I suppose this question is stupid, but i can not figure it out myself...

How can i link to X11 libraries with gcc ?

if i try to compile with :
"gcc -L/usr/lib -lX11 ..." i recieve the error message :
"cannot find -lX11"

If i change the makefile, so the path is setted, where the libX11.a is :
"gcc -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 ..." i recieve lots of errors like :
"undefined refernce to 'XDrawPoint'"
Most of the listed Functions are includet with Xlib.h (i suppose all, but
they are to many to verify each of them).

Excuseme for my weak english and
thank You;
Oleg


From dd@asi.fr  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: dd@asi.fr (David asi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: another problem wihle trying to install xfree under cygwin
Message-ID: <002c01c1b4b7$756ee020$0200a8c0@casanova>

Hi all,

I have the correct extract.exe file which is about 135kb.

but when I launch the script Xinstall with : 
$> sh Xinstall.sh

I get a windows alert :
title : extract.exe : invalid entry point.
a procedure entry point _ctype_ can be find in the cygwin1.dll lib ?

thanks.



From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X server hangs when adding fonts server
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020116184004.GA27836@redhat.com>

This must be a new record.

This is the WRONG MAILING LIST.

I've redirected your request to the proper mailing list.

cgf

On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 08:37:22PM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
>Hi
>
>I'm using standard cygwin (1.3.6) with XFree 4.1.0 and test server 53 (I'm
>not totally sure. Anyway, its size is 3,045,888 ). The system is NT 4,
>service-pack 6.
>
>The X server hangs (100% CPU) whenever I try to add a different fonts
>server to the font path (adding an additional dir works fine).
>
>I tried several different servers, and they seem to give the same result.
>
>Any idea what it is? Any additional information is required?
>
>FWIW, here is a part of the loop the X server is in (when run under
>strace):
>
> 6060 107726020 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: 6, 0x22F954, 0x0, 0x0, 0x22F94C
> 9424 107735444 [main] X 47 dtable::select_read: /dev/streamsocket fd 5
> 5331 107740775 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: to->tv_sec 0, to->tv_usec 0, ms 0
> 5424 107746199 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: sel.always_ready 0
> 4999 107751198 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines
> 5400 107756598 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: si 0x0 si->thread 0x0
> 4976 107761574 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: returning
> 5322 107766896 [main] X 47 peek_socket: considering handle 0x150
> 4945 107771841 [main] X 47 peek_socket: adding read fd_set /dev/streamsocket, fd 5
> 5489 107777330 [main] X 47 peek_socket: WINSOCK_SELECT returned 0
>10200 107787530 [main] X 47 select_stuff::poll: returning 0
> 5615 107793145 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines
> 4897 107798042 [main] X 47 select_stuff::~select_stuff: deleting select records
>
> 5749 107803791 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: 7, 0x22F954, 0x0, 0x0, 0x22F94C
>10324 107814115 [main] X 47 dtable::select_read: /dev/streamsocket fd 6
> 4965 107819080 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: to->tv_sec 0, to->tv_usec 0, ms 0
> 5345 107824425 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: sel.always_ready 0
> 5079 107829504 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines
> 5517 107835021 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: si 0x0 si->thread 0x0
> 5411 107840432 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: returning
> 4909 107845341 [main] X 47 peek_socket: considering handle 0x70
> 5561 107850902 [main] X 47 peek_socket: adding read fd_set /dev/streamsocket, fd 6
> 5052 107855954 [main] X 47 peek_socket: WINSOCK_SELECT returned 1
>10418 107866372 [main] X 47 set_bits: me 0xA18F3E0, testing fd 6 (/dev/streamsocket)
> 5475 107871847 [main] X 47 set_bits: ready 1
> 4823 107876670 [main] X 47 select_stuff::poll: returning 1
>10875 107887545 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines
> 5049 107892594 [main] X 47 select_stuff::~select_stuff: deleting select records
>
> 5581 107898175 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: 8, 0x22F954, 0x0, 0x0, 0x22F94C
>10419 107908594 [main] X 47 dtable::select_read: /dev/streamsocket fd 7
> 4903 107913497 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: to->tv_sec 0, to->tv_usec 0, ms 0
> 5424 107918921 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: sel.always_ready 0
> 5082 107924003 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines
> 5483 107929486 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: si 0x0 si->thread 0x0
> 5381 107934867 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: returning
> 5058 107939925 [main] X 47 peek_socket: considering handle 0x1AC
> 5407 107945332 [main] X 47 peek_socket: adding read fd_set /dev/streamsocket, fd 7
> 5222 107950554 [main] X 47 peek_socket: WINSOCK_SELECT returned 1
>10270 107960824 [main] X 47 set_bits: me 0xA18F3E0, testing fd 7 (/dev/streamsocket)
> 5488 107966312 [main] X 47 set_bits: ready 1
> 5001 107971313 [main] X 47 select_stuff::poll: returning 1
>10770 107982083 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines
> 4977 107987060 [main] X 47 select_stuff::~select_stuff: deleting select records
>
> 5765 107992825 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: 255, 0x70503C, 0x0, 0x0, 0x22F9CC
>10313 108003138 [main] X 47 dtable::select_read: /dev/tcp fd 0
> 4954 108008092 [main] X 47 dtable::select_read: /dev/streamsocket fd 1
> 6060 107726020 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: 6, 0x22F954, 0x0, 0x0, 0x22F94C
> 9424 107735444 [main] X 47 dtable::select_read: /dev/streamsocket fd 5
> 5331 107740775 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: to->tv_sec 0, to->tv_usec 0, ms 0
> 5424 107746199 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: sel.always_ready 0
> 4999 107751198 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines
> 5400 107756598 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: si 0x0 si->thread 0x0
> 4976 107761574 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: returning
> 5322 107766896 [main] X 47 peek_socket: considering handle 0x150
> 4945 107771841 [main] X 47 peek_socket: adding read fd_set /dev/streamsocket, fd 5
> 5489 107777330 [main] X 47 peek_socket: WINSOCK_SELECT returned 0
>10200 107787530 [main] X 47 select_stuff::poll: returning 0
> 5615 107793145 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines
> 4897 107798042 [main] X 47 select_stuff::~select_stuff: deleting select records
>
> 5749 107803791 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: 7, 0x22F954, 0x0, 0x0, 0x22F94C
>10324 107814115 [main] X 47 dtable::select_read: /dev/streamsocket fd 6
> 4965 107819080 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: to->tv_sec 0, to->tv_usec 0, ms 0
> 5345 107824425 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: sel.always_ready 0
> 5079 107829504 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines
> 5517 107835021 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: si 0x0 si->thread 0x0
> 5411 107840432 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: returning
> 4909 107845341 [main] X 47 peek_socket: considering handle 0x70
> 5561 107850902 [main] X 47 peek_socket: adding read fd_set /dev/streamsocket, fd 6
> 5052 107855954 [main] X 47 peek_socket: WINSOCK_SELECT returned 1
>10418 107866372 [main] X 47 set_bits: me 0xA18F3E0, testing fd 6 (/dev/streamsocket)
> 5475 107871847 [main] X 47 set_bits: ready 1
> 4823 107876670 [main] X 47 select_stuff::poll: returning 1
>10875 107887545 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines
> 5049 107892594 [main] X 47 select_stuff::~select_stuff: deleting select records
>
> 5581 107898175 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: 8, 0x22F954, 0x0, 0x0, 0x22F94C
>10419 107908594 [main] X 47 dtable::select_read: /dev/streamsocket fd 7
> 4903 107913497 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: to->tv_sec 0, to->tv_usec 0, ms 0
> 5424 107918921 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: sel.always_ready 0
> 5082 107924003 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines
> 5483 107929486 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: si 0x0 si->thread 0x0
> 5381 107934867 [main] X 47 socket_cleanup: returning
> 5058 107939925 [main] X 47 peek_socket: considering handle 0x1AC
> 5407 107945332 [main] X 47 peek_socket: adding read fd_set /dev/streamsocket, fd 7
> 5222 107950554 [main] X 47 peek_socket: WINSOCK_SELECT returned 1
>10270 107960824 [main] X 47 set_bits: me 0xA18F3E0, testing fd 7 (/dev/streamsocket)
> 5488 107966312 [main] X 47 set_bits: ready 1
> 5001 107971313 [main] X 47 select_stuff::poll: returning 1
>10770 107982083 [main] X 47 select_stuff::cleanup: calling cleanup routines
> 4977 107987060 [main] X 47 select_stuff::~select_stuff: deleting select records
>
> 5765 107992825 [main] X 47 cygwin_select: 255, 0x70503C, 0x0, 0x0, 0x22F9CC
>10313 108003138 [main] X 47 dtable::select_read: /dev/tcp fd 0
> 4954 108008092 [main] X 47 dtable::select_read: /dev/streamsocket fd 1
>
>
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From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: questions
In-Reply-To: <25176.1012837425@www25.gmx.net>
Message-ID: <20020204162120.88888.qmail@web20806.mail.yahoo.com>

Thats correct, what he is looking for is a "Rootless" X server.  There are many
commercial X servers out there that do it, but XFree with Cygwin does not. 
There are some works going on by some very generous programmers to get the X
Server working with the Windows Native GDI, but it will be some time before
that is working, and the Rootless mode will not be a first priority.

The problem is that in it's current state, the X server uses a basic frame
buffer approach, and draws the frame buffer to the windows display.  In order
to go to rootless mode, all draw commands need to be done with the GDI.

Brian


--- Darko.Palic@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> your first question could be answerd easily, AFAIK there is no way to do it
> with XFree. On the list have been some discussions about the native MS window
> support for X windows, but it seems to be a greater problem to realize this.
> Maybe a developer could explain the problems.
> 
> Your second question: take a look at
> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/
> 
> regards,
> Darko
> 
> > Hello!
> > 
> > 1. How can I start XFree.exe so the Cygnus/XFree window doesn't appear,
> >    not even when I start an X client (e.g xterm). I'd like X clients'
> >    toplevel windows appear as normal, `native' Windows(R) windows.
> > 
> > 2. How can I transfer the selection between X11 and Windows? (So I can
> >    select the URL in Internet Explorer, and start wget inside an xterm
> >    inside XFree.exe without typing the URL again.)
> > 
> > I'm not a member of the mailing list, so please also reply personally.
> > 
> > pts
> > 
> 
> -- 
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From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: KDE 2 running problems
In-Reply-To: <996637614.20020317185241@wallst.ru>
Message-ID: <00a401c1cebd$704315b0$276107d5@BRAMSCHE>

Hello,
>
> I  have  a  problem running KDE 2 under Cygwin
> 1.3.9 / XFree 4.2.0: it
> says "The procedure entry point XShmAttach could
> not be located in the
> dynamic link library libXext.dll". Really,
> there's no such entry point
> in  that  DLL.  I've  tried to use DLL from XFree
> 4.1.0 but it doesn't
> have  that  entry  point  either. Can anyone
> help? Is there version of
> XFree  allowing  to run KDE 2? Is there version
> of KDE 2 which can run
> in XFree 4.2?
>
There is a patched version of this lib (and the related
server) in the kde-x-1.2 package on the
http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net download area.
> --
> Yours faithfully,
> Sergey
>
> mailto:sage@wallst.ru
> Homepage: http://sage.wallst.ru
> ICQ: 110345832
> MSN: horroronthewingsofnight@hotmail.com
>
>


From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: 4.2.0
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268329A@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>



The Cygwin/Xfree86 4.2.0 are available

ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/xfree/xc-4-binaries/


Suhaib


From bmrevet@igr.fr  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: bmrevet@igr.fr (Bernard Revet)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: printing from cygwin-Xfree remote printer 
Message-ID: <3C7AB05C.8010207@igr.fr>

Dear Cygwinnies


I am trying to install LPRng program in Cygwin-Xfree under Windows NT.
It is not  an easy task but I understand that the complexity of 
Microsoft Windows does not help.
I followed most of the indications to have LPRng installed but I was 
stopped by the owner rules
when I tried checkpc in order to get the corrrect seteuid I got the 
following
SYSTEM @MICRO
/usr/local/sbin/checkpc -V -f
micro seteuid_wrapper: seteuid() failed !! Not owner
micro is the name of the machine
I need to print from micro  on a remote postscript machine which is 
shared and available on micro
I compiled LPRng as indicated after installation all commands are set to 
Admin and group none.
 I have in /etc/passwd and /etc/group the two following lines respectively

daemon:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:1:1:U-MICRO\daemon,S-1-5-21-1711220169-380859561-925700815-1001:/home/daemon:/bin/bash
 daemon:S-1-5-32-545:1

When I configure LPRng with the various uid possibilities. I always end 
with files belonging to Administ and group none.
If I  do lpstat I  get Printer 'HPLaserJ@localhost' -cannot open 
connection - Connection refused Make sure the remote host supports the 
LPD protocol.
and accepts connections from this port and from nonprivileged port
.
I can print from MICRO on this remote printer. under Windows NT

I would appreciate some help to circumvent the system problem and be 
able to print from a cygwin-Xfree window.
 I installed Ghostscript and Ghostview as they both have printing 
possibilities. These 2 programs are running fine but without printing

Best regards
Yours
Bernard










From cdutzz@x263.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cdutzz@x263.net (cdutzz@x263.net)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: err from xwin.exe
Message-ID: <20020112075312.2D8AEA474B@mx01.x263.net>

     I installed CygWin(2.125.2.10)+xFree 4.1.0 on Win2000(with sp2).
     When I run xwin.exe under Cygwin,I was told that the application fail to normal initialize at 0xc0000142 from a windows dialog box.
     What shall I do? 

     


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: FW: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
Message-ID: 

Darryl forgot to cc the mailing list.  No biggie.

Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: Darryl Wagoner [mailto:darryl@shecora.com]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:38 AM
To: Harold Hunt
Subject: RE: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2


Harold and the group,

> If at all possible, as a diagnostic test you should connect only the two
> computers in question together on a separate test network, making sure to
> set each machine up with a static IP address.  Then try to login via XDMCP
> on the test network.  If XDMCP works fine on the test network,
> then you have
> some sort of misconfiguration on your primary network (which is what I
> suspect).

My net configuration is fairly simple.  It is a local 10Base-T with
4 systems on it(Win2k, linux and 2 Win98).  The Win2k is the
firewall to Starband sat connection.  The thur-put is around 75% 800Kbyte
per seconds in both directions.  Other network applications works flawlessly
include XWin32 if I start it without XDMCP.   Spray from Linux has
zero packet drop as well.

>
> You still haven't told us the speed of the network between the machines.
> Cable modems do not work as fast as 10Base-T, so XDMCP doesn't
> usually work
> very well over a cable modem.

Sorry about that it is 10Mbit.  I been around this type of network for
years and most of the time I can smell a network problem.  I think the
simple answer is that I don't understand xdmcp very well and I have
something configured wrong.  I have been able to get a XDMCP login
for a while.  I just bounced the Linux server in hopes that will help.
It seems to have help.  I will keep you posted.

Also I am using static IPs for the local area.

thanks for all your help.
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From vincent.arnoux@asml.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: vincent.arnoux@asml.com (Vincent Arnoux)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Quick question on setup.exe
Message-ID: <3C3EA864.98ACCE6D@rousset.france.asml.nl>

Hello,
Does this download application for cygwin takes in account the OS on
which it is running (i.e. are there different packages to download
whether you are running it on Windows 95 or Windows NT) ?

Regards,
Vincent Arnoux


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Sound makes cygwin/xfree86 lock up
In-Reply-To: <3C92E286.1040900@ridgecrest.ca.us>
Message-ID: 

Tom,

Sound is not a service provided by *any* X Server (sound is not part of the
X Protocol).  Therefore it makes little sense that sound events would cause
Cygwin/XFree86 to lock up.  I suspect that something else is going on.  Are
you running Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0?  You can check by running
/usr/X11R6/bin/xdpyinfo from an xterm within Cygwin/XFree86.  I ask this
because there were problems with versions prior to 4.2.0 where certain
graphics requests caused the server to freeze... those problems have long
since been fixed.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Tom Bozack
> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 1:13 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Sound makes cygwin/xfree86 lock up
>
>
> I'm using cygwin/Xfree86 to login to a KDE session on a Linux host using
> XDMCP.  Everything works fine until the client requests a service that
> the server can't provide such as sound.  When that happens the server
> locks up and becomes unresponsive.  The only way to recover is to
> restart the cygwin/XFree86 server and login again to the nost compter.
> Needless to say this is very frustrating.
>
> Does anyone know of a way to prevent this from happening other than not
> do anything that requests sound support (or any other service that
> cygwin?XFree86 can't provide)?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory
In-Reply-To: <3C4EC7D1.5E4B641@otpbank.hu>
Message-ID: 

Nagy,

Are you running KDE under Cygwin or are you logging into KDE on a remote
machine via XMDCP?  I'm assuming that you are running KDE locally.  In that
case, you problem is most likely specific to KDE, not to Cygwin/XFree86.
So, you're going to have to ask the kde-on-cygwin folks the same question in
order to get some answers.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Nagy Tibor
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:25 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Cygwin XFree86 consumes memory
>
>
> Did somebody observed that Cygwin/Xfree86's memory usage suddenly
> increases, causing Windows getting slow?
>
> I start Cygwin/Xfree86 and 50 konsole (KDE console) in it. I see in
> Win98 performance monitor that CPU usage is 15%, memory usage is  70MB,
> free physical memory 20MB and swap file size is 30MB. Than I start 5
> konsoles more and sudenly CPU usage is 60%, memory usage is 96MB, free
> physical memory 0MB and swap file size is 280MB!!! and the whole system
> is getting very slow.
>
> What is this?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Tibor Nagy
> E-mail: nagyt@otpbank.hu
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------


From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Please remove "sourcemaster" link from cygwin-xfree page
In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683204@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683204@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: <20020106012417.GB17572@redhat.com>

On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 08:16:03PM -0500, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote:
>Removed.

Thank you!

cgf


From freeweb@nyckelpiga.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: freeweb@nyckelpiga.de (Gerrit P. Haase)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: How to compile WindowMaker?
In-Reply-To: <00b201c19912$26242a90$7747a492@eq.ufrj.br>
References: <00b201c19912$26242a90$7747a492@eq.ufrj.br>
Message-ID: <7113429480.20020109145451@familiehaase.de>

 Marcus,

2002-01-09 14:43:55, du schriebst:

> I am trying to compile WindowMaker 0.80 under Cygwin.
[...]

>  ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lintl
>     ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a(wapplication.o): In function
> `WMInitializeApplication':
>     /tmp/wm/WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs/wapplication.c:39: undefined reference
> to `_Xsetlocale'

> a) help me and tell me how to successfully compile WindowMaker under Cygwin?

You probably want to add libX11.a (-lX11) to your link line?

> b) tell what is the program ldconfig?

You don't need that for Cygwin.  The shared libraries are in /usr/bin or
/usr/local/bin and are looked up via PATH by the linker.


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From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Help with xfree86 cygwin install on NT4
In-Reply-To: <4CFB0866A7D0D411BC8700508B6937B94E2B64@USA0102MS1>
References: <4CFB0866A7D0D411BC8700508B6937B94E2B64@USA0102MS1>
Message-ID: <20020115224220.GF6957@redhat.com>

Wrong mailing list.

Redirected to correct mailing list.

cgf

On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 05:35:28PM -0500, Mcelhatten, Rhuel wrote:
>Hello  - 
>   I recently installed Cygwin on an NT4 machine, service pack 5. After
>doing so I installed the XFree86 binaries, version 4.1.0, but I get the
>error 
>"\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe is not a valid Windows NT application" when
>running the startxwin.bat script included with the XFree86 binaries. If i
>try running the startxwin.sh or just running XWin.exe from the Cygwin shell,
>the only error I receive is 'Access Denied'. Any help would be appreciated. 


From hainesr7@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: hainesr7@hotmail.com (Robert Haines)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Remote tasks sleeping after 'su'
References: 
Message-ID: 

> > > I've been using Cygwin for a while now but am new to cygwin-xfree. I
hope
> > > this question hasn't been answered before but I did check the archives
and
> > > didn't find anything pertinent.
> > >
> > > I use this system to log into other systems (via ssh -X) and have the
> > > windows displayed on my cygwin-xfree desktop. If I run something as
myself
> > > then everything is fine. If I log in, then 'su' to root, then run
> > > something
> > > the window never appears. If I look at 'top' then the task I just
> > > started is
> > > flagged as sleeping. This problem does not occur when using the
> > > putty/exceed
>

Thanks for your responses guys. I have now had chance to do a little
research using a Linux box in place of my Cygwin/XFree box and the end
result is the same. Once I have su'd I can't expect X forwarding to work.
Now I think about it, this is hardly strange. The only difference in the
whole process was that I did actually get an error when using two Linux
boxes and the task was terminated, unlike on the Cygwin/XFree setup where no
error was received and the task simply went to sleep.

Now I know that this is normal behaviour, I'll not try it again :-)

Thanks again,
Robert Haines.


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: (patch seq: 5151) config file support for cygwin port
Message-ID: 

> of course, I announced a binary with this patch about one month ago and
> got no negative response. (Actually I got no response, but the binary was
> downloaded about 30 times in that month)
>
> bye
>   ago



The code looks fine to me, but, I don't want the patch committed until some
effort is made to follow the formatting of the other files in hw/xwin.
Also, I've got a few problems with the Imakefile changes, as well as with
the InitOutput.c changes.

#
# Coding style complaints - winkeybd.c, winconfig.c, winmsg.c
#

Specifically, I'd like each '{' and '}' to be on their own lines, e.g.:

} else {

should be

  }
else
  {

etc.

I could count hundreds of instances of the above example in winconfig.c;
however, there are whole blocks of your code that do put each '{}' on their
own lines, so I'd just like to see the nonconforming lines fixed.

Function types are not always on the line above the function name, and the
space between the function name and the opening '(' is missing.  (see
winmsg.c).

Furthermore, I'd like you to run each file through Emacs, selecting all
text, then run "C->Indent Line or Region"; this will get the parameter lists
lined up correctly, etc.


#
# Imakefile complaints
#

I don't think that your changes to programs/Xserver/Imakefile are correct.
Platform-specific changes to the SUBDIRS list should be avoided at all
costs.  Try to find some other way to add XWINPARSEDIR to the list of
directories to be compiled.

#
# InitOutput.c
#

You've got #define macro definitions on line 247 or so, when they should be
up at the top of the file.


Overall, good work on a tough feature.  Just clean up the files so that I
don't have to use my time doing it myself.

Thanks,

Harold


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DirectDrawCreate
References: 
Message-ID: <095601c1b47c$be9c6730$0200a8c0@lifelesswks>

Have a look at autoload.c in the cygwin sources or the setup.exe
sources.

It provides a symbol to link to for the linker, but doesn't resolve the
.dll until runtime.

Rob


From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Do I need X11/R6....... on KDE?
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268323A@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Tang [mailto:mtang1@oslo.westerngeco.slb.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 5:34 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com
> Subject: Do I need X11/R6....... on KDE?
> 
> 
> Hello Gurus,
> 
> I have those X11/R6 binaries and am running them. Good stuff. 
> Now, I am 
> tempted to installed the KDE 2.2.1 on machine to have a try.
> 
> Question:
> Do I still need X11/R6 X-stuff before I can use KDE? I would like to 
> removed them if KDE runs without these X11/R6 binaries.... I 
> am running 
> short of disk space...
> 

You cannot run KDE with X11R6 on any Operating Systems.


> Thanks and regards,
> Michael
> 


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Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: question
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From spetreolle@yahoo.fr  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file
In-Reply-To: <005501c19942$8463f880$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>
Message-ID: <20020110021942.25656.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Ralf,

So ok, but...
Could you tell me what packages put files in other
places
than /opt/kde ?
I hate the idea of put files everywhere in my tree...

 --- Ralf Habacker  a
??crit??: > > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of
> Sylvain Petreolle
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 6:41 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Kde 2.2.1's setup.ini file
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would install Kde 2.2.1 and i didn't find
> > the setup.ini file on
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/kde-cygwin.
> >
> > Where could I download it ?
> >
> The alpha release of kde 2.2.1 does not support
> downloading with setup.exe/setup.ini.
> 
> You have to download each archive and the related
> updates/patches. Read the relating README's
> for more information about installing and so on.
> I think the beta release would support this. Perhaps
> if no reaons speek against, it will be
> released with the
> cygwin mirroring network.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Ralf
> 
>  

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From elik@bhphotovideo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: elik@bhphotovideo.com (Eli Kleinman)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: gnome-libs configure: error
Message-ID: <3C9771AF.2421.1B5E4439@localhost>

Ok so I compiled gnome-libs-1.4.1.1 on cygwin but I got a error
configure: error: Your db library is missing db 1.85 compatibility 
mode

dose any one know whre I could find db 1.85 to download for 
cygwin?

Thanks in advance
Eli 



From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XWin core dump
In-Reply-To: <3CA32B91.72899B5E@lmco.com>
Message-ID: 

Joe,

Have you done an actual file search for multiple versions of cygwin1.dll, or
have you just assumed that since you only installed Cygwin once that you
only have one copy of cygwin1.dll?  If you've just assumed, then you need to
do a file search, as lots of software comes with its own copy of
cygwin1.dll.

Let us know which it is,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Joe Bronkema
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 9:41 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: XWin core dump
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I tried Cygwin/XFree for the first time today, and was unpleasantly
> surprised with a core dump when I tried to start the server.
>
> I'm running Windows 95 with Cygwin 1.3.10 and the 4.2.0 binaries from
> mirrors.rcn.net.  Here's the stack dump:
>
> $ cat XWIN.EXE.stackdump
> Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=19E0C48A
> eax=82BBAE20 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00A4EBE8 esi=82BBA00C
> edi=82BBA040
> ebp=00A4EC00 esp=00A4EBBC program=C:\CYGWIN\USR\X11R6\BIN\XWIN.EXE
> cs=0157 ds=015F es=015F fs=361F gs=0000 ss=015F
> Stack trace:
> Frame     Function  Args
> 00A4EC00  19E0C48A  (00000000, 000000C0, 46000000, 82BBA00C)
> 017D1AC8  00021401  (FFFFFFFF, FFFFFFFF, FFFFFFFF, FFFFFFFF)
> 0179E578  01786E3A  (017D1AC8, 0974F18B, 2BC4E856, C483FFFC)
> 6029107 [main] XWin 586635 handle_exceptions: Error while dumping state
> (probabl
> y corrupted stack)
>
> I checked the FAQ.  The entry for STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION suggested
> multiple conflicting versions of cygwin1.dll.  I have only the one.
>
> Any ideas?  Any additional info I could provide that would help?


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X crashes without any error message
In-Reply-To: 
References:  <20020307094406.GC1112@fairlite.demon.co.uk> 
Message-ID: <20020307110611.GM1112@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 11:58:46AM +0100, Andrew Markebo wrote:
> | I hope Chris Faylor is reading this, is there any chance of cygwin 
> | defaulting to binary mounts ? or is there some sinister reason for not
> | doing this ?
> 
> Hmm when I do installations, binary is default for my mounts? Or have
> I missed something.. 
> 
Is it ? That's interesting....

Quite a few are getting bitten by this.

Alan.


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From edi@serbski-institut.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: german keybord with Cygwin Xfree 86
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
Message-ID: <20020214.165426.41633160.edi@serbski-institut.de>

From: Alexander Gottwald 
Subject: Re: german keybord with Cygwin Xfree 86
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:41:53 +0100 (MET)

> On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 rene.pizur@accenture.com wrote:
> 
> > Hello Alexander,
> > 
> > I'm connecting with startxwin.bat to Sun Solaris mashine and I want to have
> > german keyboard.
> > I have already downloaded xmodmap.de (don't know - where should this file
> > be saved)
> 
> There is now a much easier way can you please test the xserver from
>  and
> 
> 
> This modified version uses the xf86config file and sets the keyboard to 
> the configured keymap on startup

Unfortunately, not for me: It says
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp: Permission denied
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp: Permission denied
and falls back to pre-XKB keymap. 

/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp.exe complains about not finding libX11.dll.
Is that because I have XFree4.1?

Cheers

Edi


From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: question
In-Reply-To: <20020314114238.85695.qmail@web14901.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020314120629.2242.qmail@web20807.mail.yahoo.com>

Just ask at the address you sent this to : cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com

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From rasjidw@bigpond.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rasjidw@bigpond.com (Rasjid Wilcox)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XFree in Cygwin Setup program
Message-ID: <200202041048.VAA16957@cts01.webone.com.au>

Just wondering what the status of getting XFree into the Cygwin Setup 
program?  I followed the discussion on 21st Jan, and a few weeks ago I saw 
some binaries up on the ftp site that looked like they were in progress, but 
they are no longer there.

I'd be willing to help.

Rasjid.


From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (James Tetazoo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Wanted: MS-Windows Icon file with "X" icon...
Message-ID: 

Anyone know where I can get an MS-Windows icon file with the "X" icon?  I 
have a shortcut on my Win2k desktop that I use to launch XWin, and I want to 
set the icon to something appropriate.


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From Khorev@SoftLab.RU  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Khorev@SoftLab.RU (Khorev Sergey)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfs under Win2k
Message-ID: 

> Is there any HOWTO how to setup X font server under cygwin on Win2k?
> 
> I've noticed that the line
> 
> dir ":7100"
> 
> in the /etc/X11/XftConfig has no effect.

I don't know about xfs on cygwin, but on *nices xfs config is
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fs/  or on Xfree 4.x
is /etc/X11/fs/...

man xfs ;))


From staf.verhaegen@imec.be  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: staf.verhaegen@imec.be (Staf Verhaegen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Use of font server on another machine
References: 
Message-ID: <3C5A4E0F.D0D99DB2@imec.be>

Alexander Gottwald wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Staf Verhaegen wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > Can I use a font server on another (linux) machine in cygwin XFree 4.2.0 ?
> > I read the command line options but didn't find anything appropriate.
> > I also tried 'xset +fp pc120:7100' but this also failed with a bad directory
> > error.
> 
> you can set the fontpath at the start of the Xserver by adding the switch
> -fp tcp/pc120:7100 or via xset +fp tcp/pc120:7100

The -fp option seems to work (at least there are more fonts available with
xlsfonts then when I don't specify this option).
Doing xset +fp tcp/pc120:7100 freezes the screen. I suppose this is a bug. I'm
running the X server in fullscreen mode 1024x768x8.

Version information:
This cygwin installation was done last week from internet so it is probably
the latest one.
XFree 4.2.0.
Win98
Directx 8.1

Staf.

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                 and the other for which it wasn't.


From sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com (Sam Edge)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Ttmkfdir TrueType font directory prep tool (binary for Cygwin)
Message-ID: 

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For anyone who's interested, I've uploaded a Cygwin binary for Joerg
Pommnitz's ttmkfdir to http://fundin.f2g.net/?download so you don't
have to bother downloading and compiling the source for it and for
the FreeType 1.1 library that it uses. (This program reads TTF files
and automatically creates the appropriate fonts.scale file that
XFree86 needs before it can use new TrueType fonts.)

The archive also contains a README explaining one way to use all your
Windows fonts with Cygwin/XFree86 without having to copy, move or
convert them.

Since I'm new to Cygwin I'll apologize in advance if this is the
wrong place for this or if the execuatable is already out there.

- -- 
Sam Edge

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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: To-do Item...
In-Reply-To: <3C7668DE.90C6BD87@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: 

You can email me the diff file.

You are right... the recent talk about changing the keyboard event handling
to resemble VNC would make your change mostly moot.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Chadwick [mailto:j_tetazoo@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:51 AM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: To-do Item...
>
>
> I've been using cygwin/xfree for some time and thought it was high time
> I made a contribution.  I checked out your online to-do list
> (http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/todo.html) and decided the first item,
> "Release all keys when Cygwin/XFree86 loses focus", was a reasonable
> place to start.
>
> I believe I have arrived at a working solution.
>
> So, the question is: How do I submit my fix for review by the
> developers? (FYI. I only touched 1 file,
> xc/programs/Xserver/xwin/winkeybd.c).
>
> P.S. Perhaps this to-do item is moot in light of your recent note about
> overhauling the keyboard event handling to more closely resemble the VNC
> approach?


From eric.chastan@netcelo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: eric.chastan@netcelo.com (Eric Chastan)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: crash when modifying .profile in NT and Xserver is running.
Message-ID: <3C874870.E2836CB5@netcelo.com>

Hi,

I have a system crash that occured every time I try to modify my
/etc/profile with my NT editor while my Xserver is running.
I'm using XFree/Xfce.
My dump file is attached to the mail.

Eric.

Here is my cygwin configuration:

XFree 4.2.0
xfce-3.4.4

Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics
Current System Time: Thu Mar 07 11:52:20 2002

Windows 2000 Professional Ver 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2

Path: C:\cygwin\home\ech\bin
 C:\cygwin\bin
 C:\cygwin\bin
 C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin
 c:\Progra~1\Rational\ClearCase\bin
 c:\Emacs-21.1\bin
 c:\progra~1\jpcap
 .
 C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin
 z:\ses\bin\ux
 C:\cygwin\home\ech\bin

SysDir: C:\WINNT\System32
WinDir: C:\WINNT

HOME = `C:\cygwin\home\ech'
MAKE_MODE = `unix'
PWD = `/home/ech'
USER = `ech'

Use `-r' to scan registry

a:  fd           N/A    N/A
c:  hd  FAT32  14560Mb  62% CP    UN           OCDXP00ABF
d:  net NTFS    6998Mb  70% CP CS UN PA FC     BGEUC
e:  cd           N/A    N/A
f:  net NTFS    4097Mb  99% CP CS UN PA FC     Data
m:  net MVFS    1000Mb  50% CP CS              CCase
p:  net NTFS   17359Mb  81% CP CS UN PA FC
u:  net NTFS   13264Mb  82% CP CS UN PA FC
x:  net MVFS    1000Mb  50% CP CS              CCase
y:  net MVFS    1000Mb  50% CP CS              CCase
z:  net MVFS    1000Mb  50% CP CS              CCase

.              /         user    binmode,noumount
C:/cygwin      /         system  binmode
C:/cygwin/bin  /usr/bin  system  binmode
C:/cygwin/lib  /usr/lib  system  binmode
z:             /vobs     system  binmode
z:             /z        system  binmode
.              /         user    binmode,noumount

Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\make.exe
Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe

   56k 2000/12/03 C:\cygwin\bin\cygbz21.0.dll
   81k 2001/10/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitcl30.dll
   35k 2001/10/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygitk30.dll
  390k 2001/10/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll
    5k 2001/10/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll
   10k 2001/10/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll
  623k 2001/10/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll
  170k 2002/01/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll
  621k 2002/01/16 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcrypto.dll
  156k 2002/01/16 C:\cygwin\bin\cygssl.dll
   66k 2001/11/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygregex.dll
   21k 2001/06/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl.dll
   22k 2001/12/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-1.dll
   35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll
   20k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu6.dll
  175k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll
  202k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll
   12k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel6.dll
   20k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory5.dll
  121k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline5.dll
   41k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-noX4.dll
   46k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-X4.dll
   50k 2002/01/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll
   19k 2002/02/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll
   45k 2002/02/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll
  119k 2002/02/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll
  612k 2002/01/16 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxml2-2.dll
   73k 2002/01/16 C:\cygwin\bin\cygexslt-0.dll
  202k 2002/01/16 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxslt-1.dll
   22k 2002/01/16 C:\cygwin\bin\cygxsltbreakpoint-1.dll
   40k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcre.dll
   39k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcreposix.dll
  253k 2002/02/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll
  107k 2002/01/23 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcurl-2.dll
   35k 2002/02/04 C:\cygwin\bin\cygltdl-3.dll
  751k 2002/02/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll
    Cygwin DLL version info:
        DLL version: 1.3.10
        DLL epoch: 19
        DLL bad signal mask: 19005
        DLL old termios: 5
        DLL malloc env: 28
        API major: 0
        API minor: 51
        Shared data: 3
        DLL identifier: cygwin1
        Mount registry: 2
        Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions
        Cygwin registry name: Cygwin
        Program options name: Program Options
        Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2
        Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags
        Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix
        Cygdrive default prefix:
        Build date: Mon Feb 25 11:14:34 EST 2002
        Shared id: cygwin1S3

  596k 2001/05/16 C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\cygiconv.dll
    6k 2001/05/16 C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\cygcharset.dll

Cygwin Package Information
Package             Version
ash                 20020131-1
autoconf            2.52a-1
autoconf-devel      2.52-4
autoconf-stable     2.13-4
automake            1.5b-1
automake-devel      1.5-5
automake-stable     1.4p5-5
bash                2.05a-3
bc                  1.06-1
binutils            20011002-1
bison               1.33-1
byacc               1.9-1
bzip2               1.0.1-6
clear               1.0
compface            1.4-5
cpio                2.4.2
cron                3.0.1-6
crypt               1.0-1
ctags               5.2-1
curl                7.9.3-1
cvs                 1.11.0-1
cygrunsrv           0.95-1
cygutils            0.9.9-1
cygwin              1.3.10-1
dejagnu             20010117-1
diff                0.0
ed                  0.2-1
expect              20010117-1
figlet              2.2-1
file                3.37-1
fileutils           4.1-1
findutils           4.1
flex                2.5.4-1
fortune             1.8-2
gawk                3.0.4-1
gcc                 2.95.3-5
gdb                 20010428-3
gdbm                1.8.0-4
gettext             0.10.40-1
ghostscript         6.51-3
gperf               0.0
grep                2.5g
groff               1.17.2-1
gzip                1.3.2-1
indent              2.2.7-2
inetutils           1.3.2-17
irc                 20010101-1
jbigkit             1.2-6
jpeg                6b-7
less                358-3
libintl             0.10.38-3
libintl1            0.10.40-1
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libncurses6         5.2-8
libpng              1.0.12-1
libpng2             1.0.12-1
libreadline4        4.1-2
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libtool             20010531a-1
libtool-devel       20020202-1
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libxslt             1.0.10-1
links               0.96-1
login               1.4-3
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mingw-runtime       1.2-1
mktemp              1.4-1
mt                  2.0.1-1
mutt                1.2.5i-6
nano                1.0.7-1
ncftp               3.1.2-1
ncurses             5.2-8
newlib-man          20001118-1
opengl              1.1.0-5
openssh             3.0.2p1-5
openssl             0.9.6c-3
openssl-devel       0.9.6c-2
patch               2.5-3
pcre                3.7-1
perl                5.6.1-2
pkgconfig           0.10.0-1
popt                1.6.2-1
postgresql          7.1.3-2
python              2.2-1
rcs                 5.7-2
readline            4.2a-1
regex               4.4-2
robots              2.0-1
rsync               2.5.2-1
rxvt                2.7.2-10
sed                 3.02-1
sh-utils            2.0-2
sharutils           4.2.1-2
shellutils          0.0
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ssmtp               2.38.7-3
tar                 1.13.19-1
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termcap             20010825-1
terminfo            5.2-1
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texmf-doc           20000804-2
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From wamontgomery@worldnet.att.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: wamontgomery@worldnet.att.net (warren montgomery)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Porting X applications using Pseudo-ttys, x server won't start
Message-ID: <004f01c1c44b$b8eb3c60$8ede1b3f@wamontgomery>

Hello, I am an experienced unix developer looking to port an X windows
application that uses pseudo-ttys for communication (an xterm-like
application), to xfree.  I've got two problems.  First, after downloading
xfree and updating my cygwin installation (Windows ME), I still can't get
the x server to start.  A window appears then disappears. The log complains
about not being able to find the "fixed" font, though the font files are all
there.  I scanned the archives which suggest the problem may be the file
system mountings, but unfortunately I'm not sure how to even tell how my
file systems are mounted let alone fix it.  Can someone point me at the info
I need for this?

Second, I have the application compiled, though the compilation errors I got
suggested I may well not have the right code for dealing with pseudo ttys.
This application has been compiled for just about every known variant of
unix, all of which do something different to allocate a psuedo tty to an
application and get the permissions and ownership of both ends set up
correctly.  I can't tell from any of the stuff I've read how cygwin handles
this particular dark corner of the unix world.  I've never found any
reasonable documentation on this stuff and in the past have always learned
from code fragments.  Can anyone point me at either a sane, reasonably
complete, description of how to do it or at a code example from a program
that accomplishes it?

Thanks.

Warren Montgomery wamontgomery@att.net  (http://home.att.net/~wamontgomery)


From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Starting CDE from Solaris
In-Reply-To: <001c01c19d2b$35a8bd10$14010059@metrong.com>
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Tunde Itayemi wrote:

> Is it possible to have Solaris display on a Windows Machime without some 
> sort of X-server software running on the Windows system? Or what is the 
> purpose of the command:

Ok, just to explain what the XWindow system is: 

X (in short for XWindow System) ist a network protcol which allows you
the describe the things you want to draw on the screen of you monitor. This
is not very impressing, but there is still more!

X allows you to send this description via TCP/IP, Decnet and maybe some
other strange protocol to a remote host. This means there is only a network
cable (or some air for wireless networks) between the two computers. 

Combining the two amazing features, you have a system where you can send 
information what should be drawn (eg. a small red triangle and the letters
"ago is cool :)") to a remote computer and this computer does the drawing, 
but the program which issued the command to draw this runs on the local 
computer.

> xwin -noreset -screen 0 1152 864 -query  -from 

XWin is nothing else than a program which does this drawing to screen for you.
Actually it runs on the remote computer (from the point of view of you're
solrais programs). This program is called the "X-Server". The programs
on the Solaris machine are called "X-Clients". The terms are choosen that
way because the "X-Server" does the drawing for the "X-Clients" and 
therefore offers a service to them. 
        
To return to your question: It is of course possible to display the solaris
output on the pc without an Xserver, but the XServer is the easiest and most
common way.

bye
    ago

PS: Spelling mistakes are in no way related to the amount of alcohol if had
consumed be I started writing this mail :)

PPS: The same applies for gramatical errors and non-pc parts of the mail :)

PPPS: Please ask these question on the cygwin-xfree mailing list. This will 
help you receiving an fast response.
-- 
 Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017
 4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Building Enlightenment
Message-ID: 

Ralf,

I sent in your patch of ICE-def.cpp to XFree86.

Thanks for the patch,

Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Sound makes cygwin/xfree86 lock up
In-Reply-To: <9384475DFC05D2118F9C00805F6F263107ECAAE7@exchange1.netcomsystems.com>
Message-ID: 

Joe,

Well, it goes in now that it is useful to someone.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Perches, Joe [mailto:joe.perches@spirentcom.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 6:24 PM
> To: 'Harold Hunt'
> Cc: bozackt1@ridgecrest.ca.us
> Subject: RE: Sound makes cygwin/xfree86 lock up
> 
> 
> MessageBeep(MB_OK) works well and is I believe the right call too.
> 
> Harold, you're a maintainer.  Does this change go into the source tree?
> http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winkeybd.c
> seems to show it hasn't.  It may be that the cvsweb repository is stale.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe


From Ralf.Boetnagel@dvg.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Boetnagel@dvg.de (Ralf.Boetnagel@dvg.de)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: XWin w2k xdmcp-query - no valid address
Message-ID: 


Hi, Alexander,


>Tokenring adapter?
>> wszName=
>> dwIndex=33554437
>> dwType=9
>> bDescr=MADGE_TR_MINIPORT_DRIVER: MDGNDIS5 5.95.90


> eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0
> eth1: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=0.0.0.0
> lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1
is tok0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=6.201.253.220 correct?

Yes, this is quite correct ! If you want, I can ask some other ppl running
cygwin here to also run ls_netdev.

Thanks       Ralf





From kimsr70@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: kimsr70@hotmail.com (Sung-Ryul Kim)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X crashes without any error message
Message-ID: 

Hi guys,

I have installed the cygwin and xfree86 pgms on my Windows XP (a Korean 
language version). All others work fine. I have even tested usinf other 
commercial X servers and they work fine.

But if I try to run the XWin.exe, it crashes without a message. The X server 
window appears for about a second, and then all is gone. Have anyone 
experienced something like this? I have looked around in the list and 
documentation but I cannot find any information.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Sung Ryul Kim


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From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Porting Xfree 86 to  Windows 2000
In-Reply-To: <5575473D4532D411BE4C009027E8C83806E23D38@MASBLREXC02>
Message-ID: 

On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Venkatesh  Ballani wrote:

> Hi,
> 	I would like to port Xfree86 into window2000. Xfree*6 mean only i
> want port XServer and Xlin package into windows.
> Please send some info on this

The Xserver already works on windows 2000. If you want to contribute, 
please have a look on the to-do list: 
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/todo.html

bye
	ago
-- 
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 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017


From jmp@micromuse.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jmp@micromuse.com (Jean-Marc Paulin)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin as a telnet command shell...
References: <20020131140215.A21277@nimbus.dmillard.com> <3C5A7B47.9000502@gatwick.westerngeco.slb.com>
Message-ID: <006001c1ab23$680ca9f0$d527a8c0@CACHAREL>

Hi,

I am running telnet server on Win2000. Does anyone know how to make cygwin
my default shell when logged-in from telnet ?

thanks

JM


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

hmm just a thought, if you can config zonealarm to allow traffic on
port 6000 and/or 6001 it might be possible to get them working
together?  or?

check the zonealarm logs and see what zonealarm blocks and if you can
tell it to allow the X-traffic.

or does zonealarm do more to the network interface??

        /Andy

 
/ "Egon Phillips"  wrote:
| >Why are you telling me this?
| Because you answered my earlier query.
| 
| >  I really don't care... you need to send all
| >Cygwin/XFree86 related mails to the Cygwin/XFree86 mailing list.
| >  I will reply to such mailings if I believe I can contribute.
| >
| >Having said that... ZoneAlarm is the problem and it must be removed (if I
| >remember correctly).  If you don't believe me then follow these steps:
| >
| >1) Admit that ZoneAlarm is the problem.
| >
| >2) Remove ZoneAlarm software from your system.
| >
| >3) In the event that step (1) fails, see step (1).
| >
| I guess you don't like zonealarm? ;-) Ok, Ok, I'll contact zonelabs
| and see if they have a work around.  If not I'll get rid of it.
| Pitty, we run TPF at the router, and zonealarm on our client computers.
| 
| THANX
| 
| >Harold
| >
| > > -----Original Message-----
| > > From: Egon Phillips [mailto:nigel_phillips@hotmail.com]
| > > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 12:46 AM
| > > To: huntharo@msu.edu
| > > Subject: RE: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
| > >
| > >
| > > Thanx Harold,
| > >
| > > It is installed but won't run.  Apparently there is a problem
| > > with Zonalarm.
| > >   I was unable to find a solution in the archives.  That is
| > > without deleting
| > > zonealarm from my system.
| > >
| > > Which ports are used during the startup, shutdown and maintenance of
| > > cygwin-Xfree86?  Maybe if I open the associated ports xfree86
| > > will startup?
| > >
| > > Here is my output from the startx command:
| > >
| > > $ startx
| > >
| > > giving up.
| > > xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
| > > xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
| > >
| > >
| > > >From: "Harold Hunt" 
| > > >To: 
| > > >Subject: RE: cygwin-xfree 4.2.0 installation problem
| > > >Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:38:02 -0500
| > > >
| > > >You need to be following the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide
| > instructions for
| > > >installation... not the XFree86 general instructions.  The
| > Cygwin/XFree86
| > > >User's Guide is located at:
| > > >
| > > >http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/
| > > >
| > > >Harold
| > > >

-- 
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From darryl@shecora.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: darryl@shecora.com (Darryl Wagoner)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP starting problems on Win2k & RH 7.2
Message-ID: 

Greetings,

I think I have followed all the directions, but all I get is a
blank X screen with a pointer cursors.

The request doesn't seem to be getting to the Linux system.

I did a "tcpdump port 117" and I don't see any packets at all going
to Linux.  

In the docs it says to change gdm.conf

[xdmcp]
Enable=1

but all the other options have the Boolean true so I followed suit.

[xdmcp]
Enable=true

I did do a netstat to make sure xdm was listening on the correct port.

Is it possible that Xwin.exe is sending to a different port?

thanks

--
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From gabrielarcos@cantv.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: gabrielarcos@cantv.net (Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Sourceforge lesstif binaries
Message-ID: <001b01c1d348$6e92b920$0400000a@CANTV.NET>

 Anybody knows if lesstif binaries for cygwin on the sourceforge web page
are Motif 1.2 compatible? if not, anybody knows where I can get it?




From NikolayMetchev@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: NikolayMetchev@hotmail.com (Nikolay Metchev)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cannot start XServer
References:  <20020221231016.J2567@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: 

This is what XWin.log says:
ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 5 i: 1
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per
pixel
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 716 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 716 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 691 r 1018 l 0 b
691 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 4072
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 32
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning

Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hourihane" 
To: "Nikolay Metchev" 
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: Cannot start XServer


> What does /tmp/XWin.log have to say ?
>
> Alan.
>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 10:37:49PM -0000, Nikolay Metchev wrote:
> > I sent the e-mail below .  I have been asked to provide additional
> > information. I am using Windows XP. I have a TCP/IP LAN using internet
> > connection sharing. I do not use Zone Alarm or any other personal
firewall
> > tool. I still get the error message listed below.
> >
> > > I have installed the 4.2.0 version of Cygwin/XFree86 on my Windows XP
> > laptop
> > > using a second monitor and when I tried to run the XServer a window of
> > some
> > > sort appeared and then disappeared leaving this message:
> > > $ ./startxwin.bat
> > > startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows NT/2000
> > > XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server
> > > "127.0.0.1:0.0"
> > > XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server
> > > "127.0.0.1:0.0"
> > >
> > >       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
> > >       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
> > >       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
> > >
> > > any ideas what I am doing wrong?
> > >
>


From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: KDE under cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <001601c1c676$036696a0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>
References: <20020307213452.GA16711@redhat.com> <001601c1c676$036696a0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>
Message-ID: <20020308163117.GL32086@redhat.com>

On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 08:51:10AM +0100, Ralf Habacker wrote:
>>>>And this is the wrong mailing list for discussing KDE.
>>>
>>>There is always at least one isn't there?  I
>>suppose this is not the
>>>place to ask questions related to cygwin?
>>
>>We tried to make this very clear here:
>>http://cygwin.com/lists.html
>>
>
>isn't it possible to implement an automatic redirection (and
>generating an automatic answer to the sender) identified by
>specific keywords in the subject line ?

The mailing list software is ezmlm.  Feel free to offer suggestions
on how to accomplish this.

One thing that is possible is for responsible people to redirect
messages to the correct place rather than just responding to them
whereever they happen to occur.  Then people wouldn't have to suffer
the awful torment of my incendiary responses like:

"And this is not the correct mailing list for discussing KDE."

cgf


From tzafrir@technion.ac.il  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: tzafrir@technion.ac.il (Tzafrir Cohen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: ssh X11 Forwarding from menu in window manager
In-Reply-To: <3C4AFB5D.D7B1AC68@ardynet.com>
Message-ID: 

On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, R Dicaire wrote:

> Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
>
> Tzafrir, thanks for responding.
>
> > > All my ssh keys are correctly configured,
> >
> > This is probably irrelevant. X11 forwarding is generally not related to
> > how you authenticated.
>
> Not sure what you mean here. In linux, I use ssh-agent, every terminal
> and xterm I log into sources a file at login that sets two ssh variables
> so I dont have to keep typing the passphrase for authentication to a
> remote host. Passwordless access. As I'd previously mentioned, this
> setup works fine in X11 under linux. I have this setup in Cygwin as
> well, and it works fine,
> except for executing ssh -X from window manager menu items.

ssh-agent does something different:

[ here follows a lengthy explanation of what ssh-agent does. Feel free to
skip this if this doesn't interest you ]

ssh supports authentication using private-key/public-key pairs. The idea
is that only the client needs to know the private key (which is secret)
and the server only needs to know the public key (which is not secret).

So you create a key pair (ssh-keygen), make the private key (say, id_dsa)
available to the client, and add the public key (id_dsa.pub in this case)
to the list of "authorized keys" of the server. When a client tries to
connect to the server and they decide to try public key authentication,
the server encrypts a certain message with the public key, sends it to the
client, and the client should be able to decrypt that message. So far, no
need to type a password and no need for ssh-agent.

This is fine if the client sits in your private computer at home, and you
know that nobody else has access there. But what if other people have
access to that directory? This can be the administrator of the system (if
you only have a regular account there) or someone who happens to use your
account for 5 minutes. Those people can get your private key, and from now
on, present themselves as you.

To prevent this, the private key can be saved localy in an encrypted for.
This will require you to know a certain password ("passphrase") just to be
able to access the private key.

But this means that you have to type a passphrase again for each
connection. It does not travel the wires to the other side, but still, we
don't want to keep typing the same password.

ssh-agent is supposed to save you some typing. It saves (only in memory,
and in a relatively secure way) decrypted private keys. Whenever you need
to connect to a remote host, you ask the ssh-agent to do the public keys
authentication for you.

But all of this is totally unrelated to X11 forwarding. X11 forwarding
takes place after the authentication has been established, in the final
stages of setting a connection. It creates a socket on the server side
that acts as an X server, and sets the client processes to use this
"server" (by setting DISPLAY and adding an appropriate xauth key). Any
connection to that dummy X server is transfered over the ssh connection to
the original X server.

>
> > > ssh -X works when executed
> > > from an xterm inside X11 Cygwin, just not from the window manager menu.

Sorry, I miss-read your message.

Try instead to run (from the menu):

  xterm -e ssh -X

What happens now?

BTW: do you run 'ssh -X ' ?

Just 'ssh -X' is probably pointless if it is not already in a terminal
(I'm not sure exactly what it is supopsed to do)

>
> > First thing you should do is to use the "-v" (verbose) option of ssh to
> > get more information.
> > Maybe the remote server does not allow X11 forwarding?
>
> Since this works under Linux, its not a server issue.

Still: have you tried using '-v'? It can provide you with some useful
hints.

>
> > Maybe you need to generate an initial xauthority token in your startx
> > script. My .xinitrc currently includes:
> >
> >   export DISPLAY=localhost:0
> >   xauth generate $DISPLAY
> >   xhost -
>
> I tried adding this to .xinitrc, it didn't work. Same behaviour as
> before.
>
> > BTW: if you always use X11 forwarding (or always use it with some hosts)
> > consider setting in your config file:

This will only make the '-X' switch unnecessary. see ssh (1).

>
> My servers and clients configurations are fine. Everything works fine
> under the various *nix platforms I run, just not under X11 Cygwin.
>
> I even tried sourcing the file that contains the two ssh vars for
> ssh-agent functionality from .xinitrc, no go. Neither did it work when I
> tried sourcing it as part of the window manager menu item itself.
>
> Under Linux, when one starts X, it looks like the shells environment is
> inherited by X, I'm thinking when X is started in Cygwin, such is not
> the case?

What do you mean? It inherits the environment of the shell that created it
(except some vars that were overriden)

One difference between a standard unix environment and cygwin is that in a
standard unix environment (at least in linux) the X server has to run with
special priviliges, and therefore its invocation has to be wrapped with a
special wrapper program (xinit, run from startx), and later the server
executes one client session with normal user privileges (/etc/X11/Xsession
or xinitrc or whatever).

On cygwin you are already (usually) a cygwin super-user, things are
generally a bit less complecated on cygwin.

-- 
Tzafrir Cohen
mailto:tzafrir@technion.ac.il
http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir




From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Log filling up
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Cary,

> What is the purpose of this message (winCursorOffScreen () -
> hmm...)?  It seems pretty useless.

The message is mostly useless.  The message was put there as sort of a
"heads up" in case someone every reported seeing the message... then we
would know that we need to implement the function.  However, something on
your system is apparently causing bogus mouse movement messages to be sent
to Cygwin/XFree86.  I think the better solution would be to fix whatever
program is sending the bogus mouse messages (probably goScreen).

> It would seem like a good idea to be able to configure where the
> log file goes, though.

That's actually pretty difficult to do because there are several log file
messages that get printed before we see whether or not there is a -log
command line parameter being passed.  Thus, we would have to allocate some
temporary storage for log messages printed before the -log parameter, then
redirect those messages as necessary if we see a -log parameter, or else
dump those messages to the screen if we don't see a -log parameter.

Now, I don't know about you, or anyone else on this project, but I'm busting
my ass on my last semester of my senior year of college.  In other words,
you'll have to convince someone else to fix this problem for you, or you'll
have to fix it yourself.  (Of course, the easy solution is to download the
source as in the Cygwin/XFree86 Contributor's Guide, goto to file
xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/wincursor.c
http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/wincursor.c,
#if 0 the ErrorF message that is bothering you, then compile according to
the instructions in the Contributor's Guide... we're talking *maybe* 30
minutes of your time)

> I never like seeing such things hard
> coded in a program.

Neither do I... but my priorities are fixed at the moment.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Cary Jamison
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 11:11 AM
> To: Cygwin/X list (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: Log filling up
>
>
> Modifying the code to put the log in /dev/null certainly doesn't
> seem like an attractive solution.  If I were to go that far, I
> would rather just search for where the particular message is
> output that is causing the problem and disable it.
>
> Do others not have this problem?  The only unique thing about my
> setup is that I use Andrei Gourianov's goScreen as a virtual
> desktop manager under windows.  I haven't tested to see if this
> affects the XWin.log or not.  I can't imagine that it would,
> since the log fills up even when my desktop is set to the one
> where X is running, so it shouldn't see any difference.
>
> What is the purpose of this message (winCursorOffScreen () -
> hmm...)?  It seems pretty useless.
>
> It would seem like a good idea to be able to configure where the
> log file goes, though.  I never like seeing such things hard
> coded in a program.
>
> Cary
>
> ---
> Cary Jamison
> Cary.Jamison@PowerQuest.com
> (801) 705-8685 voice
> (801) 705-4685 fax
>


From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: to subaib siddiqi
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831FF@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>


You do not have /usr/X11R6/bin directory in your path.  Fix your PATH,
please.  The clients are unable to find the dlls.  Did you install
everything?

Suhaib

> -----Original Message-----
> From: fftdsp@yahoo.com.cn [mailto:fftdsp@yahoo.com.cn]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:55 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: to subaib siddiqi
> 
> the output message
> ddxProcessArgument ()
> ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 5 i: 1
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported
> engines 0000001f
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows
> display depth of 32 bits per pix
> el
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w
> 1018 h 708 r 1018 l 0 b 708
> t 0
> winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 4072
> winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00
> 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to
> fbCreateDefColormap ()
> and it told me that:
> xterm.exe ?twm.exe?xsetrot.exe can not find
> libx11.dll
> 
> 
> 
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From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: remote xterm hangs when commands produce lots of stdout outpu
	t
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683248@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raber Chris [mailto:cpraber@yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:32 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: remote xterm hangs when commands produce lots of 
> stdout output
> 
> 
> If I do a command the produces lots of fast output to
> stdout (like ls -l for a directory with lots of
> entries), my remote xterms hang.
>
> Local xterms that telnet into the remote site work
> fine.
> 
> Are there some parameters I should be setting on XWin
> to help with this?

I do not think so.  If you can find the cause of this problem, we maybe able
to fix it.

Suhaib

> 
> TIA,
> 
> -Chris.
> 
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From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: adjust the number of bash windows opened
In-Reply-To: <015301c19ec5$9a5aea80$34396ba4@ceegs.ohiostate.edu>
Message-ID: <20020116194244.36046.qmail@web20808.mail.yahoo.com>

Simply edit the startx script to do what you want.  This is mentioned in the
user manual.

Brian


--- hongxun lee  wrote:
> > When the command 'startx' is run, 3 bash wins are launched automatically,
> > any way to customize this number?
> > Thanks
> > 
> 


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From ext.eureka.lecunff@sncf.fr  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ext.eureka.lecunff@sncf.fr (EXT / EUREKA LE CUNFF Laurent)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Problem with french Keyboard
Message-ID: 

Hello,

When I start Cygwin-Xfree with this command (in startwinx.bat) to work on
remote host

Xstart /B XWin -query 10.27.252.90 -from 10.27.252.165 -screen 1 1280 1024 

I haven't got french keyboard.

However I have in startwinx.bat the command:

/usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap /etc/xmodmap.fr

When I work on local machine I have my french keyboard.

How can I solve my problem ?

Thank You.


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cannot start XServer
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Nikolay,

Is your network token-ring or ethernet?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Nikolay Metchev
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 5:38 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Cannot start XServer
>
>
> I sent the e-mail below .  I have been asked to provide additional
> information. I am using Windows XP. I have a TCP/IP LAN using internet
> connection sharing. I do not use Zone Alarm or any other personal firewall
> tool. I still get the error message listed below.
>
> > I have installed the 4.2.0 version of Cygwin/XFree86 on my Windows XP
> laptop
> > using a second monitor and when I tried to run the XServer a window of
> some
> > sort appeared and then disappeared leaving this message:
> > $ ./startxwin.bat
> > startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows NT/2000
> > XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server
> > "127.0.0.1:0.0"
> > XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server
> > "127.0.0.1:0.0"
> >
> >       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
> >       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
> >       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
> >
> > any ideas what I am doing wrong?
> >


From ooedoo@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ooedoo@yahoo.com (Ed Conrad)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: placing launched MAGIC 7.1 & app dissappears
Message-ID: <20020329205310.67304.qmail@web20102.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I got magic 7.1 installed and trying to run it about
10 times only got the magic window to open once. 
After that, I can't open it at all.  The full-screen
window opens, the app window is on the mouse cusor,
but when I place it, it vanishes.

Does anyone know why windows vanish like that?

Thanks

Ed

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From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (James Tetazoo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin-xfree newbie woes: of mice and xterm
Message-ID: 

>From: "Gene C. Ruzicka" 
>To: 
>Subject: cygwin-xfree newbie woes: of mice and xterm
>Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:09:04 -0800
>
>i just installed xfree, and i'm running into some weird problems. first,
>using the left and center mouse buttons to cut and the center to paste
>doesn't work when i invoke the xterm that's on my PC .  but when i
>log onto my office UNIX workstation from home and run xterm
>there with DISPLAY set to my PC, the cut/paste sequence works
>fine.
>

Check if NumLock and/or CapsLock is on.  They can screw up the mouse 
behavior in some clients.


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From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: BunZip and an extra question
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020103182213.GC17348@redhat.com> 
Message-ID: <20020103190327.GA19352@redhat.com>

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 07:28:24PM +0100, Wilhelm Person wrote:
>IIRC bzip wasn't in the packages selected by default when I installed
>cygwin, perhaps if it was added we'd see fewer
>newbie-unable-to-unpack-questions.

cygwin-xfree != cygwin.

cgf


From JayWWood@aol.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: JayWWood@aol.com (JayWWood@aol.com)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X-WINDOWS and WINDOWS XP
Message-ID: <99.23563e84.29c39244@aol.com>

Hello ,

         Please send me any information you may have on installing and 
running  X-Windows (or something very like it ) on a PC with Win XP .

          I particulary want to know if there might be potential difficulties 
in getting on to my ISP (dynamic IP address) , and then logging into my 
College machine (UNIX ).
          I can do this at present just with Win XP and telnet , but I would  
like to have something a bit like UNIX on my PC .


                       Thanks ,

                     Jim Wood


From roger_maillist@alltel.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: roger_maillist@alltel.net (Roger)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Has anyone compiled Rox successfully?
In-Reply-To: <20020220171943.8105.qmail@web11103.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20020220171943.8105.qmail@web11103.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1014227285.2574.17.camel@localhost2.localdomain>

On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 12:19, Michael Bourgon wrote:
> Howdy.  I'm a newbie to X on Cygwin, but I've gotten
> Windowmaker up and running on it, and wanted to try
> out Rox after reading about it.  So far, I've
> installed/compiled glib, python, gtk+, python,
> libxml2, gdk-pixbuf,
> libiconv-1.6.1-cygwin-shared-bin.tar, and rox-base. 
> When I try to run install.sh inside rox-1.2.0, it
> starts compiling ROX-Filer/Apprun, and I get this
> error message after a bunch of messages:
> 
> find.c:32: fnmatch.h: No such file or directory
> make: *** [find.o] Error 1
> Compile failed
> 

yup.  a missing header file.

> I've found a copy of fnmatch.h in my gtk+ tarball, and
> have tried putting it in the /src directory, the

make sure you have that dir included as to where to look for include
files within your gcc/g++ compile line. something like -I./ or -I./src
or even better, specify the true location such as
-I/usr/src/rox-{%version}/src

if the make process then finds the missing .h file, it will continue
where it left-off.

> rox-base directory, the ROX-Filer directory, and in
> /tmp, all with no luck.  
> 
> Does anyone know what I should do next? 
> Many thanks,
> Michael
> 
> 
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From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: question about xfree 4.2.0 xshm
Message-ID: <000001c1bb7f$14c6fb30$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>

Hi,

for the kde on cygwin project I have build a xfree 4.1 Xext
lib with Xshm support, which needs the cygipc package.
In the xfree 4.2.0 Xext source I haven't found any
references like shmget/shmat and so one, only some shm
requests to the xserver. Does this mean that this Xext lib
does not need cygipc ?

Thanks for answering

Ralf




From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Building Enlightenment 
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268326C@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>


 _IceLastMajorOpcode symbol should be added to libICE-def.cpp file.  I
missed it originally.  It is exported in libICE.so at Linux and other UNIX
platforms.  You can do an nm on libICE on a UNIX box.

Suhaib

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralf Habacker [mailto:Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:14 PM
> To: Cygwin-Xfree
> Subject: RE: Building Enlightenment 
> 
> 
> >
> > > + _IceLastMajorOpcode
> >
> > Why does this symbol need to be exported?  I need some 
> description to 
> > put in the patch submission if I'm going to send this on to XFree86.
> >
> I've got some errors from people who were compiling the 
> kdelibs 2.1.1 from the kde-cygwin cvs area and the dcopserver 
> depends on this.
> 
> For kde 2.2.x this isn't recommended, because the dcopserver 
> uses a patched ICE lib, which was located in 
> kdelibs/dcop/KDE-ICE and does not need the origin libICE. I 
> have added this patched lib to the kde-xlib package to 
> support those people.
> 
> Only for kde I think this patch is not absolutly nessessary 
> to submit to the xfree group, because kde 2.1.1 is obsolate 
> and today I have send a request to the sourceforge stuff to 
> remove the kde 2.1.1 source release from the cvs area.
> 
> But it may be other apps who like to use this and this seems 
> to me the only symbol which isn't exported yet. Does this 
> have any specific reason ? Why should this symbol not be 
> exported anyway ? This would reduce some question about why 
> this was not exported in the future. What about if someone is 
> going to use the kde 2.1.1 dcopserver for another project. He 
> has to ask again about this missing symbol.
> 
> Any comments ?
> 
> Ralf
> 


From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: This mailing list
Message-ID: 


Sorry about that:-(

Is it possible to set Reply-To: field to list address?

Pavel



                                                                                                                                               
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Pavel forgot to cc the list.

Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz [mailto:Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 1:28 AM
To: Harold Hunt
Subject: RE: problem with keyobord on AIX





> Pavel,

> I still have no idea what is going on.  Is your AIX machine configured to
> expect the Czech keyboard layout?  Or, does your AIX machine expect a US
> keyboard layout?

I don't know which layout it expects, if any. But I use several AIX
machines.
When I logon on console, some of them have Czech layout and some of them
have
US layout. But from cygwin the behaviour is the same
- US layout with -kb parameter
- US layout without -kb parameter and NumLock off
- Czech-with-AltGr layout without -kb and NumLock on

> In fact, I barely understand how the various keyboard layout systems
work...
> nor do I have time to learn the intricacies of them.

> I don't think I'll have any time within the next year to learn keyboard
> layouts, so you'd better just work on it yourself if you want any changes
> made.

May be...

> Sorry, but I am incredibly busy now because I am in my last semester of
> college.

OK, I remember this from my school :-)

Pavel







From lee.1801@osu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: lee.1801@osu.edu (hongxun lee)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: adjust the number of bash windows opened
Message-ID: <015301c19ec5$9a5aea80$34396ba4@ceegs.ohiostate.edu>

> When the command 'startx' is run, 3 bash wins are launched automatically,
> any way to customize this number?
> Thanks
> 


From ppayami@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ppayami@yahoo.com (payam payami)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Problems getting xfree up and running was: Re: question
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020316075503.91583.qmail@web14905.mail.yahoo.com>


--- Andrew Markebo  wrote:
> / payam payami  wrote:
> | Hi,
> |    How can i send a question to mailing list?
> | I'm subscribe in your site with enclosed e-mail  
> 
> Well this mail came there so you managed to do it
> :-) Lets get started!
> 
> Gentlemen, this fellow of ours is having a problem,
> he have downloaded
> xfree, installed it, I think all by the manual.. (I
> assisted him a
> little and can fill out with some of my thoughts)
> 
> When he runs startxwin.bat/sh the X-window pops up,
> but then
> closes. Reading the /tmp/Xlog.txt (or what the file
> is called) the
> last thing printed there was that it couldn't find
> font fixed, when
> doublechecking he seemed to have the font
> 6x13-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz in
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc
> 
> (dug up the fontfilename from my fonts.alias and
> fonts.dir)
> 
> (Payam, send the logfile to the list)
see the attachment file
> 
> He has two network cards, could it be something
> there messing up??
> 
>         /Andy
> 
> -- 
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From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DirectDrawCreate
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:

> .\XWin.exe
>   C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll
[...]
>     C:\WINNT\System32\COMCTL32.DLL

That was what I expected to see.
 
> Notice that ddraw.dll is not linked.  That is the way it should be.  We need
> to replace the direct calls to DirectDrawCreate and DirectDrawCreateClipper
> with the method using GetProcAddress.  That way we'll be able to safely run
> on machines that do not have a dummy version of ddraw.dll (on the off chance
> that this would ever happen).


> In any case, w32api shouldn't be doing something that breaks the
> GetProcAddress method, as that is a perfectly valid method.


I'll check if there's an easy version to create that using the 
int (*FARPROC)(void)

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    ago
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From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86 4.2.0
References: 
Message-ID: <043201c1a249$fbe20310$0200a8c0@lifelesswks>


===
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tzafrir Cohen" 
> Further separations can probably made (separate fonts packages,
separate
> documentation packages, etc. Think of all the choices that the install
> script gives youon what to install).

I'm talking about getting *something* up easily and quickly. It can of
course change as time goes by. Harolds point about new documentation
being required is very important - and IMO minimising the effort needed
to setup (no pun intended) the new packages will free up time for doco
work, thus hastening the transition.

Rob


From c.knight@teligent.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: c.knight@teligent.co.uk (Chris Knight)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Problems with setxkbmap
Message-ID: 

Hi,

I have trying to get my UK keyboard to work with XFree 4.2.0 but I am having
a problem with the setxkbmap command.  Under version 4.1.0 the command
'setxkbmap gb' used to work but on 4.2.0 I get an error: 'Couldn't interpret
_XKB_RULES_NAMES properly' and a popup message saying:

Failed assertion
    fds_on_hold != null
at line 643 of file
/cygnus/netrel/src/cygwin-1.3.10-1/winsup/cygwin/dtable.cc

I am using Windows 2000.

Thank you for all your good work.

Chris.


Chris Knight
Development, Teligent Ltd.
Email: c.knight@teligent.co.uk

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From valeriyg@lrpeople.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: valeriyg@lrpeople.com (Valeriy Glushkov)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Can multiple remote sessions be run simultaneously under v4.2.0?
References: 
Message-ID: <001901c1d56c$21722ec0$4902010a@gvv>

Hi, Harold

It works with two XDM hosts well.

But if two and more Xservers run simultaneously what happens with
/tmp/XWin.log ?
It is emptied every time when Xwin.exe starts..

Best regards,
Valeriy Glushkov

>
> start /B XWin-works :0 -query host1
> start /B XWin-works :1 -query host2
>
> I've tested this and gotten two distinct sessions to one machine (say,
> host1) at the same time.  I don't currently have two XDM hosts, but I'm
sure
> it will work fine with two hosts.
>
> Let me know how this works.
>
> Harold



From earnie_boyd@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: earnie_boyd@yahoo.com (Earnie Boyd)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: gnuplot problem under Xfree86
References: 
Message-ID: <3C57EA9B.255D208F@yahoo.com>

Wrong list!!

jtorres@onsager.ugr.es wrote:
> 
>         I just compiled gnuplot-3.7 from source files for
>         cygwin under Xfree86. Every thing was running fine
>         for a postscript terminal, but it fails for a
>         X11 terminal, for instance plotted lines fall outside
>         the graph viewport and the screen appear filled of
>         a red surface. Anybody knows what is going on?
> 
>         Joaquin

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From cpraber@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cpraber@yahoo.com (Raber Chris)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: briangenisio@yahoo.com
Message-ID: <20020111170018.87903.qmail@web13504.mail.yahoo.com>

> 
> Yes, but did you try it anyways?  Most Linux
distributions 
> set XDMCP up as
> default when it sets up X.  I would simply try it,
before you 
> worry about
> setting it up on the Linux system.

I did try it. I got "too many retransmissions" errors.

> 
> Another thought about the Netscape problem you are
having... 
> How much time are
> you giving it to come up?  How far away is the
remote 
> machine?  (What is the
> ping rate?)  If you have a ping rate of 70ms or so,
Netscape 
> will be dog slow,
> and could take as long as 10 minutes to come up....
X 
> programs dont work too
> well over networks with latency (ie cable modem).

This is probably the issue. My ping latency is between
100 and 350 ms! I am over DSL and through a VPN to the
server I am connecting too.

Sounds like my expectations were not in line with
reality on this. Now where is that lynx browser... ;-)

> 
> The other thought, if you think your window manager
is the 
> problem... kill off
> twm, and run a window manager from the remote
machine, and 
> try it again.
> 
> Brian


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From alanh@xfree86.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alanh@xfree86.org (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86 4.2.0
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020121084543.H2502@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 08:04:45PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
> > XFree86 4.2.0 has been tagged and the binaries are showing up on
> > ftp.xfree86.org now.
> >
> > Are we bothering with a distribution as per the normal XFree86 approach?
> > or is anyone working on distributing XFree86 4.2.0 via the setup.exe
> > mechanism ?
> >
> > Alan.
> 
> Alan,
> 
> Well, we have to make a standard XFree86-style distribution for now,
> regardless of the state of anyone working on using setup.exe to install
> Cygwin/XFree86.  See, the documentation won't get re-written over night, so
> we'll be providing a standard XFree86 distribution until a setup.exe-based
> distribution is working and documented.
> 
> That's pretty logical right?
> 
Sure.

> I'm pulling the xf-4_2-branch tree right now.  I might build a distribution
> within a couple days.
> 
I'll do it today and get it up on ftp.xfree86.org. If anyone else can
pull it across to the cygwin machine that'd be good.

Alan.


From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xdmcp login
In-Reply-To: <1013387142.4218.7.camel@fred.williams.etc>
Message-ID: 

On 10 Feb 2002, Marc Williams wrote:

> Btw, would you know if all that encrytion / decryption going on would
> cause my Win machines to take a performance hit?  Thanks!

On slow machines the may be a significant performance loss. But especially
over slow networks (10mbit) the delay from the network is large enough not
to burn all cpu power ;). I can only say:  give it a try.

bye
    ago
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From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Windows based app.server
In-Reply-To: 
References: <200202061144.SM00180@lib15.denefield.org.uk>
	
Message-ID: 

| Windows-desktop to a machine which os has cvs exported to it.
                                            ===
OOps I meant vnc here, christ I am probably working to hard with the
sources now :-)

        /Andy

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Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: consulta
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From strube@physik3.gwdg.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: strube@physik3.gwdg.de (Hans Werner Strube)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Shell survives killing xterm
Message-ID: <200203181027.LAA02756@r2d2.physik3.gwdg.de>

When an xterm (running bash) is killed, e.g. by twm menu or by exiting the
xinitrc, the bash survives in the background with PPID 1 and has to be killed
manually with kill -HUP. The only way to exit xterm neatly seems to be
calling "exit" in its shell. This is very annoying. Is there a workaround?
As the man page of bash says SIGTERM and SIGQUIT are ignored by an
interactive bash, I tried setting
trap "exit 0" TERM QUIT
in .bashrc, but without success.


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: 8-bit PseudoColor 
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020201114311.02be6bd0@mail.verizon.net>
Message-ID: 

Mark,

One more thing:

You CAN run in windowed mode (instead of fullscreen) if you run XWin.exe
with the -engine 1 argument and you have Windows in 8 bit color mode:

XWin -engine 1


Furthermore, the way to exit Cygwin/XFree86 is documented:
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-stopping.html

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Jones [mailto:mark.jones106@verizon.net]
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:48 PM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Subject: RE: 8-bit PseudoColor
>
>
> At 11:52 AM 2/1/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >Mark,
> >
> >I need you to do two things for me:
> >
> >1) Run XWin.exe as you usually do with Windows in 8 bit mode.
> >
> >2) Run 'XWin -fullscreen -depth 8'.
>
> That made the difference.  Thanks!  I don't have the log file (none was
> created as far as I could tell) but I do have the output of that
> command.  And, looking down near the bottom of each file shows
> the difference.
>
> I did have trouble exiting full screen mode though.  Normally in non-full
> screen when I exit my window manager it fully exits, but this
> time I had to
> kill it with the windows task manager.
>
> Mark
>


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xserver crashes on kde 2.2.1's kate
In-Reply-To: <20020102144440.H2553@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Alan Hourihane wrote:

> It means that there have been bug fixes on the xf-4_1-branch since
> XFree86 4.1.0 was released, but I doubt a 4.1.1 that ONLY fixes bugs
> against 4.1.0 will ever make it out. This branch indicates a stable
> 4.1.x line of servers.
> 
> XFree86 4.2.0 will be the next release, it may have new bugs etc and
> there will be a xf-4_2-branch that will maintain the 4.2.x for stable
> servers.

This was a clear word. 

Thanks
	ago
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From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Errors when building X-windows source code in Windows-2000 enviro nment by using nmake
In-Reply-To: <5575473D4532D411BE4C009027E8C83805A299D2@MASBLREXC02>
References: <5575473D4532D411BE4C009027E8C83805A299D2@MASBLREXC02>
Message-ID: <20020315160800.GT16363@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

This isn't the list for building the win32-x11 version.

Use cygwin and build - easy.

Alan.

On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 09:33:10PM +0530, Sunanda Raju Y wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Subject
> Regarding the errors that are being occured while building X-windows source
> code under Windows-2000 environment by using nmake
> 
> I'm getting the following errors when I do the above by giving the following
> command at MS-DOS prompt
> 
> C:\xc>nmake World.Win32
> 
> So could you please help me out in resolving these errors
> 
> Thanks
> Sunand
> 
> \xc\config\util>del xmkmf.exe
> Could Not Find I:\xc\config\util\xmkmf.exe
> 
> \xc\config\util>del gccmakedep.exe
> Could Not Find I:\xc\config\util\gccmakedep.exe
> 
> \xc\config\util>del mergelib.exe
> Could Not Find I:\xc\config\util\mergelib.exe
> 
> \xc\config\util>del lndir.exe.exe
> Could Not Find I:\xc\config\util\lndir.exe.exe
> 
> \xc\config\util>del rman.exe.exe
> Could Not Find I:\xc\config\util\rman.exe.exe
> 
> \xc\config\util>del revpath.exe.exe
> Could Not Find I:\xc\config\util\revpath.exe.exe
> 
> \xc\config\util>del makestrs.exe.exe
> Could Not Find I:\xc\config\util\makestrs.exe.exe
> 
> \xc\config\util>del mkdirhier.exe.exe
> Could Not Find I:\xc\config\util\mkdirhier.exe.exe
> 
> 
> 
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From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Porting Xfree 86 to  Windows 2000
In-Reply-To: <5575473D4532D411BE4C009027E8C83806E23D40@MASBLREXC02>
Message-ID: 

On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Venkatesh  Ballani wrote:

> HI,
> 	Thanks for information, I have specific problem....i want to convert
> whole Xfree86 package into windows 2000..which later ported into target
> platform..while porting Xfree86 into windows 2000 using nmake command...

There is also a project which tries to compile xfree86 with the MS SDK.
See http://sources.redhat.com/win32-x11/

> system generates errors at imake.c .... Please guide me.,... is there any
> other way to solve this problem....

Sorry, I can neither guess what errors you get, nor am I willing to describe
C basics. Porting a project as complex as xfree requires a high level of 
programming skills. 

If you want to start contributing to this project, please read 
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/ 

Maybe this will also help you with your problem.

bye
	ago
BTW: Please keep replys to the mailing list  
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 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017


From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window.
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268324B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raber Chris [mailto:cpraber@yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 11:02 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: Newbie needs help opening browser window.
> 
> 
> >You can read more about XDMPC at Cygwin/Xfree
> website.
> 
> That document shows how to use XDMPC, but not how to
> set it up.
> 

It is because you setup XDMCP at UNIX box and most UNIX boxes do this by
default when you install OS.  From Cygwin/Xfree you only use to connect.

> >What is your remote shell?  CSH or BASH.  If it is
> >bash then you need
> >
> >export DISPLAY=your_windows_ip_address:0.0
> 
> I am using bash and this is exactly how I am setting
> the DISPLAY variable. It's not working. Netscape sits
> there as a background job but never comes up on my
> XWin? Very wierd.
> 


Are you at a remote machine which is behind the firewall or maybe on another
premisses?  That might explain the hangs and lags.

Suhaib

> >
> >Suhaib
> 
> 
> 
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From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Use of font server on another machine
In-Reply-To: <3C57A6FD.E217EA81@imec.be>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Staf Verhaegen wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Can I use a font server on another (linux) machine in cygwin XFree 4.2.0 ?
> I read the command line options but didn't find anything appropriate.
> I also tried 'xset +fp pc120:7100' but this also failed with a bad directory
> error.

you can set the fontpath at the start of the Xserver by adding the switch
-fp tcp/pc120:7100 or via xset +fp tcp/pc120:7100

bye
	ago
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 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017


From devel@wiredway.com.br  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: devel@wiredway.com.br (Claudemir Todo Bom)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X Root Window
Message-ID: <1013723205.875.5.camel@bridge>

Hi,

please cc: me in replies, since I'm not subscribed to this list yet.

Many of my customers need X services on windows desktops, for now, all
of them are using WeirdX http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/, that is written
in Java, and because of this, uses a lot of resources and is somewhat
slow.

WeirdX is both a XServer and a WM, and because of this, it can open
individual windows without using the root window as a 'canvas'. The root
window can be hidden or minimized, and all the windows that stack on it
appears as individual windows.

Is there any hope (or if it is already possible) to have such this
behaviour from Cygwin-XFree86?

Best regards,
-- 
Claudemir Todo Bom
devel@wiredway.com.br
http://www.wiredway.com.br/~allgood
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From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin as a telnet command shell...
In-Reply-To: <006001c1ab23$680ca9f0$d527a8c0@CACHAREL>
References: <20020131140215.A21277@nimbus.dmillard.com>
	<3C5A7B47.9000502@gatwick.westerngeco.slb.com>
	<006001c1ab23$680ca9f0$d527a8c0@CACHAREL>
Message-ID: 

ARRGGHHH People ar asking questions about x on the cygwin-list, and
questions about cygin on the cygwin-x list.. :-)

Well yes it is possible.. either modify the win2k telnet deamon
configuration on which proggie to run..

Or install the cygwin telnetd/sshd, if my memory doesn't fail me, it
is mentioned how to do it in the documentation of the inetutils/inetd
package.. 

        /Andy

/ "Jean-Marc Paulin"  wrote:
| Hi,
| 
| I am running telnet server on Win2000. Does anyone know how to make cygwin
| my default shell when logged-in from telnet ?
| 
| thanks
| 
| JM
| 
| 

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From steve_obrien@hp.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: steve_obrien@hp.com (O'BRIEN,STEVE (HP-UnitedKingdom,ex1))
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: ORBit install
Message-ID: <72FAAE98015DD511B42600D0B747AC7F01471E19@kipling.br.itc.hp.com>

Hi Rob
I didn't mean to suggest that there is a problem with the cygwin pthread
implementation. 
Some gnome-vfs tests fail with various errors, which one I get seems to be
non-deterministic (ie I guess there's a/some race condition(s) so different
threads win each time?)

Sometimes I get:
GThread-ERROR **: file gthread-posix.c: line 55 (g_mutex_new_posix_impl):
error Device or resource busy during pthread_mutex_init ((pthread_mutex_t *)
result, ((void *)0))

Sometimes I get a segmentation fault

Sometimes the test completes ok

Failures appear at different points in the program, so I can't even say that
the "resource busy" always occurs at X and segmentation fault always occurs
at Y.

When running in gdb the debug symbol table becomes corrupted, so the
function names it reports do not match the file:lineno reported - so the
program is clearly trashing memory on its way.

I *think* that a mutex is not being set properly, or is being corrupted when
the memory managment error kicks in, so that two threads attempt to free the
same memory, or one uses memory that is already freed by another. All
guesswork though, because I have not been able to trace the execution in
gdb.

Steven

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Collins [mailto:robert.collins@itdomain.com.au]
> Sent: 21 February 2002 11:37
> To: O'BRIEN,STEVE (HP-UnitedKingdom,ex1); cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: ORBit install
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: O'BRIEN,STEVE (HP-UnitedKingdom,ex1) 
> 
> > The problem library in gnome-vfs, where there appears to be 
> > problems with
> > thread mutexes, although I really have not been able to debug 
> > this at all.
> 
> Hi, 
> 	I'm the cygwin pthread maintainer. What seems to be the problem?
> 
> 
> Rob
> 


From freeweb@nyckelpiga.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: freeweb@nyckelpiga.de (Gerrit P. Haase)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: dillo-0.6.3
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20020108110346.020b9008@ics.u-strasbg.fr>
References: <2219723480.20020107155746@familiehaase.de>
 <2219723480.20020107155746@familiehaase.de>
 <4.2.0.58.20020108110346.020b9008@ics.u-strasbg.fr>
Message-ID: <1975988010.20020108122135@familiehaase.de>

 Pierre,

2002-01-08 12:11:34, du schriebst:

> At 10:52 08/01/2002 , Gerrit P. Haase a ??crit:
>> > I have uploaded dillo-0.6.3 http://dillo.sourceforge.net/
>> > to my website.
>>
>>BTW, `dillo' is a web browser: The web browser;)
>>
>> > Fetch your copy now:
>> > http://familiehaase.de/cywgin/dillo/
>>
>> > This version requires Xfree86 for Cygwin && the
>> > following Cygwin packages to be installed:
>> > - jpeg
>> > - png
>> > - zlib
>> > - libintl1
>>
>> > Also required (with shared libs):
>> > - glib
>> > - gtk+

> Where do I find those libs, they don't seem to be 
> loadable using Cygwin Setup utility,
> nor are they part of the Cygwin XFree suite.

Yes, they are not part of the net release.  Unfortunately the site
where prebuilt binaries were available is down.  But I found some
patches in the list archives which I used too, some of them are
enhanced or updated to later versions.
To use dillo are only `glib-1.2.10' and `gtk-1.2.10' needed.

Here are all the patches:
http://familiehaase.de/cywgin/gtk/

Unfortunately I have not enough space at this site to load up
binaries, I will be able to do so probably in about four weeks.


Gerrit
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From valeriyg@lrpeople.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: valeriyg@lrpeople.com (Valeriy Glushkov)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XF86Config
References: 
Message-ID: <00af01c1c5b4$c23e4310$4902010a@gvv>

Hi Alexander,

By the way, when the official Cygwin/Xfree86 will be able to parse
XF86Config (if will be) ?
I tried your experimental release. It looks pretty good especially XKB
section support.

Best regards,
Valeriy Glushkov

> start Xwin with the option -fp unix/:7100. This sets the font path.
> Parsing of XF86Config is not available in the official Cygwin/Xfree86
> server.



From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: KDE under cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <003d01c1c5b4$19b91670$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>
References: <7c.24070563.29b868d7@aol.com> <003d01c1c5b4$19b91670$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>
Message-ID: <20020307155946.GC10147@redhat.com>

On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 09:43:05AM +0100, Ralf Habacker wrote:
>> Is anyone using KDE, KOffice, (especially)
>> KDevelop with Cygwin? I assume it
>> would need the qt library. Is this all workable?
>>
>Look at http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net. There are alpha
>releases of some kde packages

And this is the wrong mailing list for discussing KDE.

cgf
--
Please do not send me personal email with cygwin questions.
Use the resources at http://cygwin.com/ .


From ariyamannil@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ariyamannil@hotmail.com (Jobi Ariyamannil)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Help configuring cygwin on windows 2000
Message-ID: 

Hello,

  When I run Xwin.exe on windows 2000, it fails saying
"not a valid win32 application".  What would be going wrong ?

Regards,
Jobi


From matthew.donald@motile.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: matthew.donald@motile.net (Matthew Donald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: xwinclip not waiting for x server startup (was xwinclip authorisation)
References: 
Message-ID: <032a01c19e08$3fcbeaa0$2102a8c0@motile.net>

Hi Harold,

Thanks for your enlightening note.  I've placed a 30 second delay in my code
which kludges around the problem.  I like your suggestion of retrying
xwinclip every, say 4 seconds, until it connects.

I'm still puzzled by the security issues.  Does XDMCP cause the localhost to
lose access to the X server?  I'm creating a /etc/X0.hosts file to ensure
that localhost retains access.  Is there a better way?

cheers Matthew

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: 
Cc: "cygx" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 6:48 AM
Subject: RE: xwinclip not waiting for x server startup (was xwinclip
authorisation)


> > Hi Shane,
> >
> > Cygwin/Xfree and XDMCP work correctly.  I only get a problem when
running
> a
> > local X client at the same time as a remote X client (via XDMCP).  It
> turns
> > out a /etc/X0.hosts file containing a 'localhost' entry is needed.  Also
> > xwinclip does not wait for the X server to complete startup, while some
> > other clients (such as xterm) do.
> >
> > Any ideas why xwinclip does wait for X server startup?
> >
> > cheers Matthew
>
> I wrote xwinclip.  The reason that it behaves differently than 'xterm' is
> that xterm uses the XToolkit library, which xwinclip cannot use.  xwinclip
> cannot use XT because we need to have a specialized event loop that
> processes both X events and Win32 messages.  xwinclip needs the extra
> options provided by using the X11 api directly, rather than through a
> toolkit.
>
> Now, you ask "why xwinclip [doesn't] wait for X server startup?"  I can
> answer that question simply: because not enough is known about how we need
> to "wait".  In other words, the issue is not well enough defined for it to
> be solved.
>
> I just added a loop that retries opening the X display several times.
That
> change didn't really do anything.
>
> Part of the problem is that the X Server (in a part of the code that we
did
> not write) accepts the xwinclip connection before  xdmcp connects to the
> remote host.  xdmcp causes the server to reset when it gets a connection
to
> the remote host, so xwinclip is shutdown after xdmcp connects.
>
> Now, two ideas come to mind to solve that problem, neither of which will
> work:
> 1) Don't exit when we receive a message that the server is going to reset.
> Instead, try to reconnect for about ten seconds.
>
>    The problem here is that the error is generated by a libX11 function,
> which calls _XDefaultIOError to report the error.  The problem with
> _XDefaultIOError is that it then calls exit(1), so xwinclip never has a
> chance to handle the error on its own.
>
> 2) Delay connecting to the X server by a number of seconds, regardless of
> whether xdmcp is being used or not (as we have no way of knowing).
Perhaps
> even allow a parameter to specify how many seconds to delay.
>
>    This solution only duplicates the functionality of the 'sleep x'
command,
> where x is the timeout in seconds.  There is no point in duplicating
> functionality.
>
>
> The only way that I know of to get xwinclip to work with XDMCP is to
change
> your batch file (startxwin.bat) to something like the following:
>
> start /B XWin -noreset -ac -query huntharo-4.user.msu.edu
> sleep 8
> start /B xwinclip
>
> That's it for now,
>
> Harold
>



From eugenius@dingoblue.net.au  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: eugenius@dingoblue.net.au (Eugene Rosenzweig)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Invisible X client window borders
References: <200203250331.g2P3Vuj22861@star.vcsd.net>
Message-ID: <009a01c1d3ff$411a7a20$0300a8c0@bluebox>

not much help from me but I had the same problem with TWM myself, no border
when resizing. I think I had border when I was moving but I am not sure it
was a while ago. I downloaded and compiled Blackbox and the problem doesn't
show up under that.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dwight Schauer" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 2:26 PM
Subject: Invisible X client window borders


> I'm not sure if this is an Xserver problem or a a window manager on. In
TWM
> and in Afterstep I don't get the rectangle or grid when moving or resizing
> client windows. The proper window decoration does show up on the x
clients.
>
> I have an Nvidia GeForce II MX and Windows XP. (On an Athlon Thunderbird).
>
> I installed the latest Cygwin and Xfree a few days ago. I'm running
AfterStep
> v. 1.8.11 compiled and running under Cygwin/XFree.
>
> I did the same at work a week ago on a different machine, and resizing,
> placing, and moving windows is fine. (I don't have window contents shown
on
> resize or move, and I use manual window placement if there is no room to
> display the window). At work on Cygwin/XFree the grid/rectangle shows up
> correctly in Afterstep, as it does on a native Linux XFree86 server.
>
> Apart from that, XFree and Afterstep seem to be running fine on Cygwin. I
> can't get aterm to work, (it compiles and run and can get as far as
> displaying the shell prompt, but then it locks up) so I'm using the cygwin
> provided rxvt instead and it runs fine under X.


From julians@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: julians@redhat.com (Julian Smart)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: XWin terminates immediately under W2K
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020206145907.06aafa60@pop>

At 02:28 PM 2/5/02 -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
 >My mail seems to be on about a 1 hour delay... I wrote this message 50
 >minutes before it showed up... and I ended up saying the same thing as
 >Alexander.  Oh well...

Thanks though!

Unfotunately I'm still making a pig's ear of the installation. I misread the FAQ
thinking it recommended using WinZip to solve the problem... then having done
so, I re-read the FAQ properly :-)

I then made all my mounts binary:

/ -> c:/apps/cygwin
/c -> c:/
/bin -> c:/apps/cygwin/bin
/usr/lib -> c:/apps/cygwin/lib

Now when I run Xinstall, it complains that it can't create symlinks. Aagh.
Maybe I shouldn't have made all the mount points binary.

Thanks for any further enlightenment...

Julian
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From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)
In-Reply-To: <20020320053412.GA29768@redhat.com>
References: 
	
	<20020320043934.GA8470@redhat.com>
	
	<20020320053412.GA29768@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

| My question was really to Suhaib or Harold.  I didn't know if they saw
| any value in maintaining a separate installation tree using the "old
| method", with tgz files.  If they did then we wouldn't be able to
| abrogate the xfree directory on sourceware.

I believe the files distributed is made out of the box by the xfree
distribution.. I mean it is not us who have determine the
filenames/distribution between files/and so on, it is the Makefile of
xfree.. 

        /Andy

-- 
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From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Log filling up
In-Reply-To: <20020227124743.34078.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Sylvain Petreolle wrote:

> Why couldn't this be done by putting several
> ">/dev/null" in startxwin ?

Because you can't configure where the logfile is opened. The log is not
written to stdout or stderr but to a file opened via fopen("/tmp/XWin.log")

I have some test binaries for download where the log is written to stderr 
but if some errors occur there the other people from the mailinglist won't
be able to help you.


bye
	ago
-- 
 Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017


From baerrs@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: baerrs@hotmail.com (Scott Baer)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: RESOLVED: X -query problems after update to xfree86 4.2
Message-ID: 

Well,

I don't know why this would cause a problem.. but some how some one in my
lab was kind enough to move my connection from a 100Meg to a 10Meg..  Once I
moved that over.. everything worked fine..  So I am assuming that their were
some sort of time out thing going on..   My only suggestion would be to have
this in a log somewhere.. (if developers are looking at this..), that would
make this kind of thing much easier to trouble shoot.

Alexander.. -- I though I replied back to you.. but I don't see it in the
archive.. weird..  anyway..

I did try your suggestion. and changed it to XDM..  I got a little farther..
it at least gave me a log in screen.. after I logged in..  it would change
the background color.. (green.. I'm using suse).. and then just hang their..
I never go the kde splash screen.. icons.. or task bar.  I left it this way
for more than 20 mins.. so I don't think it was going to come...

Now that I changed my network connection back to 100Meg.. I changed the xdm
back to kdm.. and everything works fine...  ( I did test the xdm.. and it
work fine also, the kdm just looks a little better...)

Thanks for your help..

Scott



----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Gottwald" 
To: "R. Soctt Baer" 
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: x -query problems after update to xfree86 4.2


> On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, R. Soctt Baer wrote:
>
> > I hate to be a bother.. but has anyone else had this problem...  if not
were
> > do I submit a bug report ??
>
> Can you please try xdm instead of kdm? Just edit in /etc/rc.config the
line
> DISPLAYMANGER=kdm to DISPLAYMANAGER=xdm
>
>
> bye
> ago
> --
>  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
>  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
>  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017
>
>

I have upgraded my Linux box to XFree86 4.2.. and now when I try to connect
to it from cygwin, on a NT 4.o box.. it will not connect....
here is the command I am using...
/usr/X11R6/bin/X -query hostnameOfLinuxbox(..or IP)
This just gives me the x window(black/white checkerd... but no log-in like
it use to.
I just upgraded to Xfree 4.2 on the Linux box(SuSE 7.3)
and first though this might be where the problme was.. but I if I go to
another Linux box ..(both other SuSE & other Linux Distros..Red Hat..)..
that has not had the X server upgraded.. I can still log into the SuSE Box..
and bring up the X desktop(KDE)...(the whole desktop... not just an app)
I have sence upgraded my cygwin & Xfree86 on my windows to the current
releses.
I can run the startxwin.bat fine.. and then ssh in to the Linux box.. and
bring up an application fine..
I can do the X -query in to a none upgraded SuSE box from cygwin
I can do the X -query in to a upgraded SuSE boxe from a non-upgraded SuSE
7.3 and Red Hat 7.2 box
So this leaves me kind of stuck... I am wondering if their has been a but
reported between xfree86 4.1 & 4.2 /cygwin and xfree86 4.2 /linux..
anyone have any ideas...
I am getting this on the upgraded SuSE box...
/var/log/warn
kdm[1149]: Abnormal helper termination, code 1, signal 0
kdm[1149]: fatal IO error 32 (broken pipe)
.. I dont see any error on the cygwin side....though I'm not real sure where
to look either...


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: DDraw Blt vs BltFast
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> > Fine.  But how do you implement them on 9x/Me?
>
> Perhaps the same way I implemented FIFO's, but easier as the semantics
> seem less complex to me.
>
> Anyway, sure we don't need to have bot NT and 9x all at the same time...

Sounds logical to me.  There is no reason to limit the performance on
Windows NT/2000/XP just because there would need to be a seperate routine
for Windows 95/98/Me.

Harold


From dd@asi.fr  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: dd@asi.fr (David asi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: about xfree 4 windows extraction
Message-ID: <000501c1b401$a18bb860$0200a8c0@casanova>

Hi all,

I dont arrive to extract the extract.exe.gz file in order to install xfree
under my xp ?
Powerarchiver give me something but the Xinstall.sh script give me an error
and rename
my extract.exe into  extract.exe.bad.

What can i do ?

thanks.


From cpraber@yahoo.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cpraber@yahoo.com (Raber Chris)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Newbie needs help opening browser window.
Message-ID: <20020111160220.82496.qmail@web13505.mail.yahoo.com>

>You can read more about XDMPC at Cygwin/Xfree
website.

That document shows how to use XDMPC, but not how to
set it up.

>What is your remote shell?  CSH or BASH.  If it is
>bash then you need 
>
>export DISPLAY=your_windows_ip_address:0.0

I am using bash and this is exactly how I am setting
the DISPLAY variable. It's not working. Netscape sits
there as a background job but never comes up on my
XWin? Very wierd.

>
>Suhaib



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From ssiddiqi@ssiddiqi.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@ssiddiqi.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: another problem wihle trying to install xfree under cygwin
In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2AF424D@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C266A9CF@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>


This is because either you have a very old Cygwin version (B20.x) or you
have two versions of Cygwin1.dll (B20.x) and a newer version of
Cygwin1.dll.  Remove older versions of Cygwin and upgrade your Cygwin to
a latest release

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com 
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of David asi
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:54 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: another problem wihle trying to install xfree under cygwin
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have the correct extract.exe file which is about 135kb.
> 
> but when I launch the script Xinstall with : 
> $> sh Xinstall.sh
> 
> I get a windows alert :
> title : extract.exe : invalid entry point.
> a procedure entry point _ctype_ can be find in the cygwin1.dll lib ?
> 
> thanks.
> 


From rmedina@ivic.ve  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rmedina@ivic.ve (Rodrigo Medina)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Some Questions
Message-ID: <200202201151.HAA06152@taquion.ivic.ve>

I have said
> ... >4) Most of the times the Cygwin+XFree SERVER fails to process some
>particular actions related to the mouse buttons. ... occasionally they do
>function correctly.

James Tetazoo reply:
>Check if NumLock or CapsLock (or some other control key) is on.  I've seen
>that screw up the behavior of the mouse clicks.

Yes, indeed the NumLock was on. After turning it off the problems with
the mouse clicks disappeared.

Thank you very much.

Rodrigo Medina
Centro de Fisica IVIC
rmedina@ivic.ve



From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Launching Term
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
Message-ID: <20020322183037.GI25487@redhat.com>

On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 12:41:14PM +0100, Andrew Markebo wrote:
>It is wrong for XFree, and wrong for Bash.. but there is a small
>exception.. bash translates PATH, TMP and TEMP and maybe some
>more.. if my memory doesn't fail me as usual.

It's actually cygwin that translates some environment variables:
PATH, HOME, LD_LIBRARY_PATH, TMPDIR, TMP, TEMP

cgf


From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: LyX and Cygwin anyone?
Message-ID: 


Has anyone used LyX on cygwin? The Windows LyX port requires an x-window
server to run, and I am interested in the minimal set of
Cygwin/Cygwin-xfree packages needed to get a functional x-window server
so LyX can run.

Thanks,
Lars



From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683313@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>


Please send your questions to cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com.

Error can mean many things.  Were your server up and running?  Send further
replies to list.

Suhaib


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eurico Covas [mailto:e.o.covas@qmul.ac.uk]
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 6:46 PM
> To: rochlin@mediaone.net; Ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com
> Subject: _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi, sorry to email you unsolicited, but I get
> the error _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> when trying to connect to a series of machines from my main one.
> I do execute the usual setenv DISPLAY mymachine:0 but still get
> problems...
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Eurico


From rick@seidenmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: rick@seidenmail.com (Rick Seiden)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Linux Mandrake and Windows
References: <001701c1b0b8$df5f7290$0401a8c0@RICSEIIBM>
Message-ID: <000e01c1b0de$86030e20$0401a8c0@RICSEIIBM>

Never mind.  I tried it again, and now it appears to work.  Go figure!

Thanks anyway
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Seiden" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 10:54 AM
Subject: Linux Mandrake and Windows


> Hello all,
>
> I'm new to the list, and I'm sorry if this has been answered before.  I =
> looked, but couldn't find it.
>
> I have Linux Mandrake running on one machine, with a dual boot to =
> Windows 2000.  I have a Windows 98 machine running cygwin/xfree.  When I =
> boot to Linux and log in (through X 3.6), I open up a terminal and type=20
>
> xhost +=20
>
> to allow all connections.  Then I go to cygwin/xfree on the Win98 =
> machine, and type into the bash window=20
>
> export DISPLAY=3D192.168.1.3:0=20
>
> (the ip of the Linux machine).  Then I try to execute=20
>
> xclock
>
> on the Win98 machine, and it says connection refused.
>
> Reverse the process: =20
>
> xhost +=20
>
> in the cygwin/xfree environment, and=20
>
> export DISPLAY=3D192.168.1.1:0=20
>
> in the Linux environment. =20
>
> xclock=20
>
> in Linux, and I get connection refused.
>
> Then I boot into W2k, and do the same thing all over again, except =
> everything is in cygwin/xfree.  Now it works just fine.
>
> What am I doing wrong while under Linux? Is it because Linux is using =
> X3.6, and cygwin/xfree is using 4.2.0?
>
> Thanks
> Rick Seiden
> rick@seidenmail.com
>


From ssiddiqi@ssiddiqi.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@ssiddiqi.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Problems getting xfree up and running was: Re: question
In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2BB12E7@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C266AAF7@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>



> Well this mail came there so you managed to do it :-) Lets 
> get started!
> 
> Gentlemen, this fellow of ours is having a problem, he have 
> downloaded xfree, installed it, I think all by the manual.. 
> (I assisted him a little and can fill out with some of my thoughts)
> 
> When he runs startxwin.bat/sh the X-window pops up, but then 
> closes. Reading the /tmp/Xlog.txt (or what the file is 
> called) the last thing printed there was that it couldn't 
> find font fixed, when doublechecking he seemed to have the 
> font 6x13-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc


Try installing fonts manually... by using gunzip and tar xvf
This problem a few users reported a few times.
Is Cygwin disk mounted in binary or Text mode?  Do a mount command and
make sure it is in binary mode.

> 
> (dug up the fontfilename from my fonts.alias and fonts.dir)
> 
> (Payam, send the logfile to the list)
> 
> He has two network cards, could it be something there messing up??


I doubt two network cards should report fixed font problem.

Suhaib

> 
>         /Andy
> 
> -- 
>  The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!
> 


From gabrielarcos@cantv.net  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: gabrielarcos@cantv.net (Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Geomview (II)
Message-ID: <004d01c1c645$51b5da40$0400000a@CANTV.NET>

OK the problem is a compilation problem not a linking problem, please help
me!!

I have installed lesstif and is working, I have configured geomview
successfully with some modification.

Making all in lisp
make[5]: Entering directory `/usr/local/geomview-1.8.1/src/lib/oogl/lisp'
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../../.. -I/usr/local/Geomview  -I../../../
../include    -g -O2 -c lisp.c
In file included from lisp.h:247,
                 from lisp.c:38:
clisp.h:1: parse error before `?'
In file included from lisp.c:39:
clisp.c:1: parse error before `?'
clisp.c: In function `l_progn':
clisp.c:4: parse error before `,'
clisp.c:5: parse error before `&'
lisp.c: In function `ulongpull':
lisp.c:2113: `ulong' undeclared (first use in this function)
lisp.c:2113: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
lisp.c:2113: for each function it appears in.)
lisp.c:2113: parse error before `)'
lisp.c:2113: parse error before `)'
make[5]: *** [lisp.o] Error 1
make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/geomview-1.8.1/src/lib/oogl/lisp'
make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/geomview-1.8.1/src/lib/oogl'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/geomview-1.8.1/src/lib'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/geomview-1.8.1/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/geomview-1.8.1'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2



From edi@serbski-institut.de  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Shift+KeyPadplus
Message-ID: <20020208.153134.71108816.edi@serbski-institut.de>

Hello,

I've encountered the following problem: When I press
Shift and KeyPad+ (to resize the font in an xterm, e.g.),
I only get capital letters. The only remedy I found so far
is to log out and restart cygwin-xfree. (I haven't found anything
in the faqs and documentations I've searched so I apologize if
this is a faq -- I'm new to this beast.) Can anyone help me here?

Thanks in advance

Edi


From refreshh@mit.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: refreshh@mit.edu (refreshh@mit.edu)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: install cygwin
Message-ID: <1010888460.3c40ef0ca7953@webmail.mit.edu>

To whom it may concern

I've installed cygwin, and then I delete them by deleting directory cygwin and 
cyginstall.  And then I tried again to install cygwin again.  But I got bugges 
to install.  Please let me know how to install cygwin again.

Regards,
Yeonjoo Kim




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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin Xfree 4.1.0 or 4.2.0 with old clients
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Try this:

>From Linux machine running XFree86 4.1.0 or XFree86 4.2.0, see how remote X
Clients running on your HP boxes work.

Interpretation of results:

1) If the behavior of the Linux box is the same as Cygwin/XFree86
4.1.0/4.2.0 then the problem has to do with XFree86 and its underlying
libraries (but has nothing to do with the Cygwin/XFree86 X Server).  This
does not mean there is a bug in XFree86.  It could be that Xlib from HP-UX
is known not to be compatible with the X standard (that's the way it is with
Sun's Xlib, I believe).  In this case, your best bet is either to search for
an updated X Window System from HP, or to install XFree86 for HP-UX (I
believe it exists).

2) If the behavior of the Linux box is the same as Cygwin/XFree86 4.0.1,
then there may be some sort of compile time error being built into
Cygwin/XFree86's libraries, or perhaps you've got an issue with binary/text
mounts on your Cygwin installation (I'm not certain that could affect the
mouse in X).


So, go forth and test!  :)

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Joan Bertran
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:09 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Cygwin Xfree 4.1.0 or 4.2.0 with old clients
>
>
>  Recent cygwin Xfree implementations work great with Linux clients
>  but unfortunately I have some old HP-Ux 9.x computers on the network
>  and the mouse pointer does not work properly, it's imposible to move
>  or resize windows or to activate the focus by click, only buttons
>  respond to mouse. (I guess that HP-UX 9.x uses Xlib X11R5 or R6)
>  With Cygwin Xfree 4.0.1 (XWin.exe 4.731.361 bytes 01/october/2000 16:25)
>  the mouse works but too beta. Any hint ?
>
>
>  Second Topic i like this seeting for the spanish keyboard if it's of any
> help
>  to somebody.
> xkb_keymap "es_105"	{
>     xkb_keycodes		{ include "xfree86"	};
>     xkb_types		{ include "default"	};
>     xkb_compatibility	{ include "default+pc"	};
>     xkb_symbols		{ include
> "en_US(pc105)+es+altwin(meta_alt)+ralt(mode_switch)" };
>     xkb_geometry 		{ include "pc(pc105)"	};
> };
>
> Thankyou,
> jbertran@cirsa.com
>


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From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Beware of party photos.
Message-ID: <20020128212651.61594.qmail@web20805.mail.yahoo.com>

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:

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From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: X11 includes and libraries path configuration
Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268325B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>

Please keep replies to the mailing list ONLY.  
Write a Makefile. 

Suhaib


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta [mailto:gabrielarcos@cantv.net]
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 5:37 AM
> To: Suhaib Siddiqi
> Subject: Re: X11 includes and libraries path configuration
> 
> but what I have to do to the compiler find the includes and libs
> automatically, something like adding to PATH ??
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 6:38 PM
> Subject: RE: X11 includes and libraries path configuration
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gabriel Antonio Arcos Acosta [mailto:gabrielarcos@cantv.net]
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 5:25 AM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: X11 includes and libraries path configuration
> > >
> > > Hi all !!
> > >
> > > I have installed xfree binaries on cygwin, and I try to compile a
> > > simple
> > > piece of code:
> > >
> > > #include 
> > >
> > > int main()
> > > { return 0;}
> > >
> > > and the compiler fail, becouse it can find the file Intrinsic.h
> > >
> > > Actually the file is in /usr/X11R6/include
> > >
> > > what enviroment variable I have to set to the compiler can find
> it?
> > > and what
> > > is the variable to the linker can find the X11 libraries?
> >
> > e.g gcc -O2 -g mysimple.c -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib
> >
> > Suhaib
> >


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From NikolayMetchev@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: NikolayMetchev@hotmail.com (Nikolay Metchev)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Cannot start XServer
Message-ID: 

I sent the e-mail below .  I have been asked to provide additional
information. I am using Windows XP. I have a TCP/IP LAN using internet
connection sharing. I do not use Zone Alarm or any other personal firewall
tool. I still get the error message listed below.

> I have installed the 4.2.0 version of Cygwin/XFree86 on my Windows XP
laptop
> using a second monitor and when I tried to run the XServer a window of
some
> sort appeared and then disappeared leaving this message:
> $ ./startxwin.bat
> startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows NT/2000
> XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server
> "127.0.0.1:0.0"
> XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server
> "127.0.0.1:0.0"
>
>       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
>       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
>       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
>
> any ideas what I am doing wrong?
>


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Installation on CD-Rom, Copying a whole installation
In-Reply-To: <20020319061545.17455.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20020319061545.17455.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

/ Sylvain Petreolle  wrote:
|  --- matt rice  a ??crit??:
| > dont do that Andreas!! the XFree86 4.2.0 binaries
| > can easily be 
| > converted into a cygwin installer package..
| 
| if this is so easy, why don't we have now one official
| ?
| XFree86 4.2.0 is on the servers since several months
| if I remember correct...
| ... and at this day we only have Xinstall.sh .

Nobody has taken the time to do it ;-) Hmm maybe even something I
could consider doing.. Any protests?? (ducks for the flying bricks)

First thoughts, do a package with all required tgz's and then do
packages with the fonts not required.. docs.. 

Hmm what more is needed?? ;-)

        /Andy
-- 
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From mielikki1@subdimension.com  Mon Apr  1 00:00:00 2002
From: mielikki1@subdimension.com (mielikki1)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:00:00 -0000
Subject: Xlib: No protocol specified (connection refused by server)
Message-ID: <3c5a1d91.303d.1804289383@subdimension.com>

I figured out the strange 'pop3.norton.antivirus' entries.
NAV put entries in my hosts file with that as the name for
127.0.0.1. I added a localhost entry and now they show up as
localhost. So, that was just a red herring.

> I noticed this. I don't know why norton antivirus is doing
> this (or even what it is doing). I also don't know if this
> is the problem.
>
> I have NAV's e-mail checking turned off. I even disabled
> "auto-protect" and it still is doing something with the
> ports.
>
> C:\WINDOWS>netstat -a
> Active Connections
>  Proto Local Address Foreign Address State
>  TCP   myhost1:6000  0.0.0.0:0       LISTENING
>  TCP   myhost1:5000  0.0.0.0:0       LISTENING
>  TCP   myhost1:4341  0.0.0.0:0       LISTENING
>  TCP   myhost1:4343  0.0.0.0:0       LISTENING
>  TCP   myhost1:1088  0.0.0.0:0       LISTENING
>  TCP   myhost1:1090  0.0.0.0:0       LISTENING
>  TCP   myhost1:4953  0.0.0.0:0       LISTENING
>  TCP   myhost1:6000  pop3.norton.antivirus:4341
> ESTABLISHED
>  TCP   maxwell:6000  pop3.norton.antivirus:4343
> ESTABLISHED
>  TCP   myhost1:4341  pop3.norton.antivirus:6000
> ESTABLISHED
>  TCP   myhost1:4343  pop3.norton.antivirus:6000
> ESTABLISHED
>  TCP   myhost1:4345  pop3.norton.antivirus:6000 TIME_WAIT
>  TCP   myhost1:4347  0.0.0.0:0       LISTENING
>  UDP   myhost1:1900  *:*
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 04:25:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 04:25:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Problems starting XFree86 => Problem Solved
Message-ID: 

Naveen forgot to cc the list.

-----Original Message-----
From: Naveen Kansara [mailto:nkansara@primus.com.au]
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 2:44 AM
To: Harold Hunt
Subject: Re: Problems starting XFree86 => Problem Solved


Thanks Harold. After readig the XWin.log from /tmp I found out that it was
the 'classical' error 'Can't find default font 'fixed''. After a revisit to
mail acrhives again, I realised that I had to remount cygwin root into
binary mode(which was in text mode initially), then reinstall and wow it
worked. I still can't start X from bash but works fine from dos(good enough
for me :-).

Great work guys. Keep up the good work. Many thanks to everyone associated
in developing XFree86 and Cygwin.

Naveen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: "Naveen Kansara" ; 
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 5:22 AM
Subject: RE: Problems starting XFree86


> First off, look in the log file:
>
>
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-log-file-location
>
> Then, send in that log file to the mailing list if you can't figure out
what
> to do.
>
> I suspect that you may need to update DirectX, since it sounds like the
> server is having a problem allocating memory for drawing the graphics.
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Naveen Kansara
> > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 8:04 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Problems starting XFree86
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I have recently installed XFree86 4.2 on my PC which has WIN 98 and
cygwin
> > version 2.194.2.21. I have read the mail archives and have tried all the
> > available options but nothing seems to work. I am giving the results
when
> > startx is envoked under bash or startxwin under dos. Both startx and
> > startxwin.bat are as supplied by the installation(which was
troublefree).
> >
> > The output when running startxwin.bat from dos command prompt
> > >>startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows 95/98/Me
> > X connection to 127.0.0.1:0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)
> >
> > The output when running startx from bash prompt
> > >>startx
> > waiting for X server to begin accepting connections .
> > ..
> > giving up.
> > xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
> > xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
> >
> > $ XWin -query 127.0.0.1:0.0
> > opens up the Cygwin/XFree86 window but closes it after a few secs
without
> > any error messages. Trying to run Xwin -query to a remote host (which is
a
> > Solaris machine) has the same effect.
> >
> > Trying xterm on it's own gives the can't open display error.
> > $ xterm
> > xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1
> >
> >
> > In both instances the Cygwin/XFree86 window opens but is completely
> > blank(white background), remains for few seconds and then closes.
However
> > running XWin has the same response but no error message is printed.
> >
> > I have a PPP and a Realtek RTL8029(AS) Ethernet adapter.
> > Below is the output of ipconfig /all
> >
> > Windows 98 IP Configuration
> >
> >  Host Name . . . . . . . . . : NKANSARA
> >  DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 203.134.24.70
> >                                        203.134.26.70
> >  Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
> >  NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
> >  IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
> >  WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
> >  NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
> >
> > 0 Ethernet adapter :
> >
> >  Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
> >  Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
> >  DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> >  IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 210.50.202.191
> >  Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> >  Default Gateway . . . . . . : 210.50.202.191
> >  DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> >  Primary WINS Server . . . . :
> >  Secondary WINS Server . . . :
> >  Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 01 01 80 12:00:00
> >  Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 01 01 80 12:00:00
> >
> > 1 Ethernet adapter :
> >  Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8029(AS) Ethernet Adapt
> >  Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-4F-49-00-73-37
> >  DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> >  IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 169.254.14.92
> >  Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
> >  Default Gateway . . . . . . :
> >  DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> >  Primary WINS Server . . . . :
> >  Secondary WINS Server . . . :
> >  Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 03 30 02 10:50:46
> >  Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
> >
> > Below is the output of netstat -a
> > $ netstat -a
> >
> > Active Connections
> >
> >   Proto  Local Address          Foreign Address        State
> >   TCP    nkansara:1088          NKANSARA:0             LISTENING
> >   TCP    nkansara:137           NKANSARA:0             LISTENING
> >   TCP    nkansara:138           NKANSARA:0             LISTENING
> >   TCP    nkansara:nbsession     NKANSARA:0             LISTENING
> >   TCP    nkansara:137           NKANSARA:0             LISTENING
> >   TCP    nkansara:138           NKANSARA:0             LISTENING
> >   TCP    nkansara:nbsession     NKANSARA:0             LISTENING
> >   UDP    nkansara:1088          *:*
> >   UDP    nkansara:nbname        *:*
> >   UDP    nkansara:nbdatagram    *:*
> >   UDP    nkansara:nbname        *:*
> >   UDP    nkansara:nbdatagram    *:*
> >
> > Though the ping works well  on 127.0.0.1
> > $ ping 127.0.0.1
> >
> > Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:
> >
> > Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
> > Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
> > Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
> > Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
> >
> > Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1:
> >     Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
> > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
> >     Minimum = 0ms, Maximum =  1ms, Average =  0ms
> >
> > Some of the solutions tried by me are:
> > 1)setting the ecvironment valiable OS and DISPLAY
> > 2)trying various sets of ip address such as 0.0.0.0
> >
> > It seems to me that either it cannot connect to 127.0.0.1 or the
> > connection
> > can't be maintained. Any suggestions/pointers/references would be highly
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Naveen
> >
> >
>


From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Mon Apr  1 07:29:00 2002
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (James Tetazoo)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 07:29:00 -0000
Subject: Thought on /tmp/XWin.log
Message-ID: 

Just out of curiosity, why was XWin.exe changed to write output to 
/tmp/XWin.log?  I liked the previous behavior of sending it to STDOUT.  
Seems to me this was more flexible since I could see the output in real 
time, redirect to a file ("> /tmp/XWin.log"), or both ("| tee 
/tmp/XWin.log").

I also just ran an experiment running 2 instances of XWin with "-screen 0 x 
y" and "-screen 1 x y" arguments.  The log file from the first instance get 
overwritten by the log file from the second.

If you don't want to go back to STDOUT, perhaps you could add the screen 
number somewhere in the logfile name to fix the overwriting problem (e.g. 
"/tmp/XWin.0.log", "/tmp/XWin.1.log", etc.)?


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  1 10:46:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 10:46:00 -0000
Subject: Thought on /tmp/XWin.log
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

James,

The discussion of why we went to /tmp/XWin.log is in the mailing list
archives.  The reason was primarily that we wanted to make XWin.exe a GUI
application instead of a command-line application... this is necessary to
quiet the thousands of questions of "why does XWin.exe open a command prompt
window when I run it?".

There are difficulties in improving the log file system as we don't know
what screen numbers will be used when we create the log file.  We could send
initial messages to XWin.log, then redirect each screen to
XWin-screenXX.log, but can you imagine having to tell users "Okay, if you
have a problem that occurs early in XWin.exe initialization then you need to
look at XWin.log... otherwise you need to look at XWin-screenXX.log where XX
is the screen that had the problem."  Yeah right, we have people that think
that a sentence that reads "don't use Winzip" means that they should use
Winzip.

Hope that clears things up,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of James Tetazoo
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:30 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Thought on /tmp/XWin.log
>
>
> Just out of curiosity, why was XWin.exe changed to write output to
> /tmp/XWin.log?  I liked the previous behavior of sending it to STDOUT.
> Seems to me this was more flexible since I could see the output in real
> time, redirect to a file ("> /tmp/XWin.log"), or both ("| tee
> /tmp/XWin.log").
>
> I also just ran an experiment running 2 instances of XWin with
> "-screen 0 x
> y" and "-screen 1 x y" arguments.  The log file from the first
> instance get
> overwritten by the log file from the second.
>
> If you don't want to go back to STDOUT, perhaps you could add the screen
> number somewhere in the logfile name to fix the overwriting problem (e.g.
> "/tmp/XWin.0.log", "/tmp/XWin.1.log", etc.)?
>
>
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> http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
>


From rasjidw@bigpond.com  Tue Apr  2 04:40:00 2002
From: rasjidw@bigpond.com (Rasjid Wilcox)
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 04:40:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin-XFree86 package?
Message-ID: <200204021240.WAA26549@cts01.webone.com.au>

Just curious as to how the progress is going on the setup.exe packaging?  I 
haven't seen any updates for a couple of weeks...

Rasjid.


From tim@lesher.ws  Tue Apr  2 08:06:00 2002
From: tim@lesher.ws (Tim Lesher)
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 08:06:00 -0000
Subject: Status of "seamless" integration?
Message-ID: <20020402154033.GD19156@pit.lesher.ws>

Is anyone working on the "seamless" integrated server mentioned on the
TODO list?  This feature is probably the one keeping me from using
XFree instead of commercial alternatives like XWin32.

-- 
Tim Lesher 
http://www.lesher.ws
For more information on the WinDev mailing list,
    see the WinDev archive pages at http://arc.windev.org


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr  2 10:16:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 10:16:00 -0000
Subject: Status of "seamless" integration?
In-Reply-To: <20020402154033.GD19156@pit.lesher.ws>
Message-ID: 

Tim,

No one is working on it.

In fact, no one has been working on much of anything related to
Cygwin/XFree86 lately.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Tim Lesher
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:41 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Status of "seamless" integration?
>
>
> Is anyone working on the "seamless" integrated server mentioned on the
> TODO list?  This feature is probably the one keeping me from using
> XFree instead of commercial alternatives like XWin32.
>
> --
> Tim Lesher 
> http://www.lesher.ws
> For more information on the WinDev mailing list,
>     see the WinDev archive pages at http://arc.windev.org


From ulrich.diez@student.uni-tuebingen.de  Tue Apr  2 14:19:00 2002
From: ulrich.diez@student.uni-tuebingen.de (Ulrich Diez)
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 14:19:00 -0000
Subject: correct place for xmodmap / how to automize keyboard-layout-setting for Xfree86 ?
Message-ID: <002301c1da95$d47e16e0$01e30286@oemcomputer>

Hello !

I installed Cygwin and Xfree86 these days on my computer. Actually I have no
experience with them.
I wanted to make the X-Window-System accepting german keyboard-layout,
therefore I downloaded a german Xmodmap-file.
When I use the command "xmodmap /path-to-modmap-file/xmodmad.de" in bash or
xterm, I have the german keyboard-settings.

But when I try to automize the Xmodmap-procedure for startup, I mess up as I
actually do not know all to much about the corresponding mechanisms.
So I tried to do everything as said in the FAQ (see below). Neither did I
find the mentioned file "/etc/X11/xdm/XSetup" nor a similar one. There was
no "XSetup"-file on my Computer at all.
I created one and put it into the mentioned directory but that didn't help.
(Somebody already told me that under UNIX-systems upper- and
lower-case-spelling is important.)

Any hints will be greafully accepted.

Yours sincerely

Ulrich
________________________________________________________________________
4.5. How do I get my non-U.S. keyboard modmap to be installed when using
xdmcp?

This answer assumes that your non-U.S. keyboard modmap is located in
/etc/X11 and is called xmodmap.country_code, where country_code is your
two-letter standardized country code (e.g. Australia = au, Deutschland = de,
France = fr, Japan = jp, United Kingdom = uk).
First, you must create a script that tells xmodmap to load the modmap for
your non-U.S. keyboard layout. One way to run xmodmap on X Server startup
when using xdmcp is to add the following two lines to /etc/X11/xdm/XSetup:
#!/bin/sh
/usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap /etc/X11/xmodmap.country_code
Now you must tell xdm to run the screen setup script on startup. In
/etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config, add the following line:
DisplayManager*setup: /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup.




From iburrell@stanfordalumni.org  Tue Apr  2 14:45:00 2002
From: iburrell@stanfordalumni.org (Ian Burrell)
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 14:45:00 -0000
Subject: correct place for xmodmap / how to automize keyboard-layout-setting for Xfree86 ?
In-Reply-To: <002301c1da95$d47e16e0$01e30286@oemcomputer>; from ulrich.diez@student.uni-tuebingen.de on Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 12:28:22AM +0200
References: <002301c1da95$d47e16e0$01e30286@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <20020402144344.A14314@stanfordalumni.org>

On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 12:28:22AM +0200, Ulrich Diez wrote:
> 
> I installed Cygwin and Xfree86 these days on my computer. Actually I have no
> experience with them.
> I wanted to make the X-Window-System accepting german keyboard-layout,
> therefore I downloaded a german Xmodmap-file.
> When I use the command "xmodmap /path-to-modmap-file/xmodmad.de" in bash or
> xterm, I have the german keyboard-settings.
> 
> But when I try to automize the Xmodmap-procedure for startup, I mess up as I
> actually do not know all to much about the corresponding mechanisms.
> So I tried to do everything as said in the FAQ (see below). Neither did I
> find the mentioned file "/etc/X11/xdm/XSetup" nor a similar one. There was
> no "XSetup"-file on my Computer at all.
> I created one and put it into the mentioned directory but that didn't help.
> (Somebody already told me that under UNIX-systems upper- and
> lower-case-spelling is important.)
> 

How are you starting XFree? XDMCP is used to create a session from
another computer; xdm runs on the other computer. It isn't needed on
the Cygwin computer. If you are starting the X server with startx,
then the xmodmap file goes in ~/.Xmodmap. You can also put it in
/etc/X11/Xmodmap to make it the global setting. The instructions in
the FAQ regarding xdm are what to do on the remote machine.

 - Ian

-- 
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From iburrell@stanfordalumni.org  Tue Apr  2 15:07:00 2002
From: iburrell@stanfordalumni.org (Ian Burrell)
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 15:07:00 -0000
Subject: Status of "seamless" integration?
References: 
Message-ID: <3CAA394C.9020104@stanfordalumni.org>

Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> No one is working on it.
> 
> In fact, no one has been working on much of anything related to
> Cygwin/XFree86 lately.
> 

What would be needed to do it? How much work would it be?

  - Ian

-- 
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http://www.znark.com/


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Tue Apr  2 15:10:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 15:10:00 -0000
Subject: Status of "seamless" integration?
In-Reply-To: <3CAA394C.9020104@stanfordalumni.org>
References:  <3CAA394C.9020104@stanfordalumni.org>
Message-ID: <20020402231048.GK1115@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 03:05:48PM -0800, Ian Burrell wrote:
> Harold Hunt wrote:
> >
> >No one is working on it.
> >
> >In fact, no one has been working on much of anything related to
> >Cygwin/XFree86 lately.
> >
> 
> What would be needed to do it? How much work would it be?
> 
A lot of work. I've done most of the re-writing of the span
functions into their native GDI counterparts. That's a good start.

We need to implement the rest of the server into native GDI calls,
then we can start looking at 'rootless' modes. It's by no means
a small task to do the conversion to native GDI first though.

Alan.


From iburrell@znark.com  Tue Apr  2 16:41:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 16:41:00 -0000
Subject: Status of "seamless" integration?
References:  <3CAA394C.9020104@stanfordalumni.org> <20020402231048.GK1115@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <3CAA4FA7.1060504@znark.com>

Alan Hourihane wrote:
> 
> A lot of work. I've done most of the re-writing of the span
> functions into their native GDI counterparts. That's a good start.
> 

Where can I find the native GDI changes? Are they checked in? My 
impression is that mode isn't included into the server by default. What 
is needed to get it to compile.

> We need to implement the rest of the server into native GDI calls,
> then we can start looking at 'rootless' modes. It's by no means
> a small task to do the conversion to native GDI first though.
> 

I wonder why native GDI is required for rootless modes. There would need 
to be support for creating Win32 windows for each X window. Plus, 
drawing (or blitting) into those Win32 windows instead of one single 
window or full screen. An internal window manager would also be needed.

  - Ian


From mbardiaux@peaktime.be  Wed Apr  3 00:20:00 2002
From: mbardiaux@peaktime.be (Michel Bardiaux)
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 00:20:00 -0000
Subject: Status of "seamless" integration?
References:  <3CAA394C.9020104@stanfordalumni.org> <20020402231048.GK1115@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <3CAA4FA7.1060504@znark.com>
Message-ID: <3CAABB49.5D208B4C@peaktime.be>

Ian Burrell wrote:
> 
> Alan Hourihane wrote:
> >
> > A lot of work. I've done most of the re-writing of the span
> > functions into their native GDI counterparts. That's a good start.
> >
> 
> Where can I find the native GDI changes? Are they checked in? My
> impression is that mode isn't included into the server by default. What
> is needed to get it to compile.
> 
> > We need to implement the rest of the server into native GDI calls,
> > then we can start looking at 'rootless' modes. It's by no means
> > a small task to do the conversion to native GDI first though.
> >
> 
> I wonder why native GDI is required for rootless modes. There would need
> to be support for creating Win32 windows for each X window. Plus,
> drawing (or blitting) into those Win32 windows instead of one single
> window or full screen. An internal window manager would also be needed.

Aye, there's the rub. When the X application pops up a menu, it must
grab the keyboard and the *whole* screen. In other words, a "system
modal" window is required, which means one can't use an internal WM but
must use MS-Windows as WM - while still being responsive to ICCM.

> 
>   - Ian


-- 
Michel Bardiaux
Peaktime Belgium S.A.  Bd. du Souverain, 191  B-1160 Bruxelles
Tel : +32 2 790.29.41


From steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com  Wed Apr  3 03:03:00 2002
From: steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com (Steven O'Brien)
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 03:03:00 -0000
Subject: gnome desktop on cygwin-xfree86
Message-ID: <000b01c1daff$34f6f500$0300a8c0@emerald>

There has been some interest in porting gnome to cygwin on this list in the
past. I have succeeded in getting (most of) the gnome 1.4 base libraries and
desktop ported. I do not have sufficient web space to distribute binaries,
but the source modifications I made are available as patches from:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steven.obrien2/
I did post this as new software on the cygwin home page, and it appeared for
a few hours yesterday but now has been removed. Anyway, If anyone has the
time to build gnome for cygwin using these patches then please have a go.
The panel, control center, midnight commander file manager, and many applets
are working.
Steven


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr  3 15:02:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 15:02:00 -0000
Subject: Michigan State University is using Cygwin/XFree86 in the Public Microcomputer Labs
Message-ID: 

Imagine my surprise when I walked into a computer lab at Michigan State
University today, logged in, and found Cygwin/XFree86 in the Start menu of
my very own university (40,000+ students).  I was utterly amazed.  I haven't
got a link for MSU that shows Cygwin/XFree86 is being used, but I am trying
to reach the people responsible for choosing Cygwin/XFree86 to see if they
can put up some sort of page saying that Cygwin/XFree86 is being used.

More on this later,

Harold


From cgf@redhat.com  Wed Apr  3 15:05:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 15:05:00 -0000
Subject: Michigan State University is using cygwin/xfree86 in the Public Microcomputer Labs
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020403230508.GC16248@redhat.com>

On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 06:02:34PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
>Imagine my surprise when I walked into a computer lab at Michigan State
>University today, logged in, and found Cygwin/XFree86 in the Start menu of
>my very own university (40,000+ students).  I was utterly amazed.  I haven't
>got a link for MSU that shows Cygwin/XFree86 is being used, but I am trying
>to reach the people responsible for choosing Cygwin/XFree86 to see if they
>can put up some sort of page saying that Cygwin/XFree86 is being used.
>
>More on this later,

That's really cool.

cgf


From BillT@VideoTele.com  Wed Apr  3 16:23:00 2002
From: BillT@VideoTele.com (Trost, Bill)
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 16:23:00 -0000
Subject: XWarpCursor doesn't "stick"
Message-ID: 

Hi, All,

I just started trying out ("evaluating", if you'll pardon the phrase)
XFree86 under Windows 2000, and have noticed a problem. I have a program
(wily, you can download it here and there) that does a fair amount of
pointer warps. I have noticed, however, that the pointer warps are really
only for show -- as soon as you try to move the cursor with the mouse, the
pointer immediately jumps back to where it was before the warp. Ugh!

This happens in both fullscreen and in-a-Window mode.

Thanks for any help,
Bill


From iburrell@stanfordalumni.org  Wed Apr  3 17:14:00 2002
From: iburrell@stanfordalumni.org (Ian Burrell)
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 17:14:00 -0000
Subject: Status of "seamless" integration?
References:  <3CAA394C.9020104@stanfordalumni.org> <20020402231048.GK1115@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <3CAA4FA7.1060504@znark.com> <3CAABB49.5D208B4C@peaktime.be>
Message-ID: <3CABA8DA.30002@stanfordalumni.org>

Michel Bardiaux wrote:
> 
> Aye, there's the rub. When the X application pops up a menu, it must
> grab the keyboard and the *whole* screen. In other words, a "system
> modal" window is required, which means one can't use an internal WM but
> must use MS-Windows as WM - while still being responsive to ICCM.
> 

Does the menu need to be truly modal on the Windows side? The menu 
window has the focus so it will get keyboard events. It can be modal 
with respect to all the other X server-owned windows. It is harder to 
make it modal relative to Windows.

Just to make sure we are using the same terms, what I mean by an 
internal window manager one running inside the X server. I am taking my 
cue from the eXcursion2 design document. Windows is generating the move, 
resize, etc events. The window manager hooks into the X server Windows 
event loop and handles window state events. The internal window manager 
should act as proper window manager which presumably means talking to 
the server.

The other way I can see to handle a rootless X server is with a separate 
X client window manager. For each root-level X window, there is a 
corresponding Windows window. But without any frame at all. The window 
manager draws the frame and handles moving, resizing, and all that. The 
X server is responsible of moving the Windows window.

Does any of this make sense?

  - Ian
-- 
iburrell@stanfordalumni.org
http://www.znark.com/


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr  3 17:43:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 17:43:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 54
Message-ID: 

Links:

I just posted Test 54 to the server development page:
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/

Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now
available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network
(http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the
pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory.  You may wish to note the
desired filename in the links below, then download from your
closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html).

Server binary, direct link:
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test54.exe.bz2 (1077 KiB)

Server source, direct link:
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20020403-2033.tar.bz2 (69 KiB)


Changes:

1) Attempt to make WarpCursor function correctly by adding function
winWarpCursor.  The new function calls SetCursorPos () with the x and
y coordinates passed to winWarpCursor.  Hopefully this works.


Enjoy,

Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr  3 17:44:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 17:44:00 -0000
Subject: XWarpCursor doesn't "stick"
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Bill,

I'd like you to try the new Test 54 server that I just put together and
announced to the list.  Please let me know if it fixes your problem.

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Trost, Bill
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:24 PM
> To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
> Subject: XWarpCursor doesn't "stick"
>
>
> Hi, All,
>
> I just started trying out ("evaluating", if you'll pardon the phrase)
> XFree86 under Windows 2000, and have noticed a problem. I have a program
> (wily, you can download it here and there) that does a fair amount of
> pointer warps. I have noticed, however, that the pointer warps are really
> only for show -- as soon as you try to move the cursor with the mouse, the
> pointer immediately jumps back to where it was before the warp. Ugh!
>
> This happens in both fullscreen and in-a-Window mode.
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Bill


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr  3 21:55:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 21:55:00 -0000
Subject: Unable to type letters in login to AIX box using XFree86 4.2.0 on W2K
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Pavel,

I finally got around to adding a FAQ entry regarding the X Keyboard
Extension and AIX.  I attributed the answer to you.

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-aix-xkb

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of
> Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 1:33 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: Unable to type letters in login to AIX box using XFree86
> 4.2.0 on W2K
>
>
>
> Known problem. You have to use '-kb' parameter, keyboard extension doesn't
> work with AIX. The keyboard is not "out of order" completely, but the
> system behaves like AltGr key is permanently pressed. By the way this is
> the reason I have to change my keyboard layout manually after every logon
> to the system, what's really silly.
>
> To Harold: I think this should be included in FAQ (and fixed, if you have
> an AIX machine to test it :-)))
>
> Pavel
>
>
>
>
>
>                     "Harold Hunt"
>
>                              To:     "Moore,
> Billiam" , 
>
>                     Sent by:                   cc:
>
>                     cygwin-xfree-owner@        Subject:     RE:
> Unable to type letters in login to AIX box using XFree86 4.2.0 on
> W2K
>                     cygwin.com
>
>
>
>
>
>                     06.02.2002 22:51
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I've never seen this problem.  Best of luck.
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Moore, Billiam
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:29 PM
> > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
> > Subject: Unable to type letters in login to AIX box using XFree86 4.2.0
> > on W2K
> >
> >
> >   I have XFree86 installed on Windows 2000 SP 2 using all the defaults
> (no
> > mods to any config files for X) and can run local X programs (e.g. LyX)
> >
> > when I run
> >
> >     XWin -screen 0 1024 768 -query 172.16.11.155 -from 172.16.46.120
> >
> > to get a CDE session on an AIX box, I get the login screen but cannot
> type
> > in letters in the login name text box.
> >
> > - I can type in spaces and backspaces and the tab and enter
> > buttons work so
> > the keyboard is at least partially recognized.
> > - The mouse is fully functional.
> > - I can get to the AIX box through Hummingbirds Exceed so I am fairly
> sure
> > that is confgured correctly
> >
> >   Everything I have found in the FAQs and web searches deals with
> > not being
> > able to connect at all or having the wrong key map. I am using
> no key map
> > which I understand means I am using the default US one which
> > should be fine.
> > Has anyone run into this before or can anyone point me in a direction to
> > further trouble shoot?
>
>
>
>


From mshley@csee.wvu.edu  Wed Apr  3 21:58:00 2002
From: mshley@csee.wvu.edu (Marc)
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 21:58:00 -0000
Subject: Win2k/Remote Login Display
Message-ID: 

Hey all,

Pretty new at working with Cygwin/XFree86, but didn't see anything on the
web or in the FAQs.

It seems that after 2 default installations of Cygwin and Xfree86, that
running $ ./XWin.exe -query host.ip.address brings up the X window, but
the pointer just moves a little and nothing comes up for any of the
known-to-work machines I'm trying to grab a display from.

I'm not running any firewalling either...

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Marc



From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr  3 21:58:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 21:58:00 -0000
Subject: missing telnet, solution
In-Reply-To: <002401c1d1c1$6c49e540$640aa8c0@topdog>
Message-ID: 

Phil,

I updated the User's Guide to say that most users will find the default
package list sufficient, but that you want to make sure that openssh and
inetutils are selected if you wish to use telnet or ssh.

Hope that helps.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Phil Burk
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:49 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: missing telnet, solution
>
>
> I followed all the steps to install Cygwin/XFree from the user guide.
> Everything worked great until I got to the part about telnet. It
> was missing
> from my installation. I spent about two hours looking over the Cygwin site
> trying to figure out how to get and install telnet. I noticed in
> this forum
> that other folks had the same problem but no working solution was offered.
>
> I finally figured it out. Here's how:
>
> - re-run the SETUP.EXE program that you used to install Cygwin,
>
> - select "Install from Internet" option,
>
> - select same install directory as before,
>
> - choose a download site as before,
>
> - when you get a list of packages, click the '+' next to the
> "Net" category,
>
> - select the "inetutils" package and the "openssh" package,
>
> - continue downloading.
>
> Your installation will be updated with those new packages.
>
> Perhaps the Cygwin/XFree86 User Guide could be modified to make
> sure telnet
> and ssh get included in the installation the first time. It
> currently tells
> people to leave the default settings alone but the default does
> not include
> telnet.
>
> Phil Burk
>
>
>
>
>
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr  3 22:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 22:00:00 -0000
Subject: Win2k/Remote Login Display
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Marc,

Look at the log file in /tmp/XWin.log.  Mail the file to the list if you
can't figure out what to do (most error messages are in the FAQ).

Be sure to mail the list and tell us what the solution was.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Marc
> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:58 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Win2k/Remote Login Display
>
>
> Hey all,
>
> Pretty new at working with Cygwin/XFree86, but didn't see anything on the
> web or in the FAQs.
>
> It seems that after 2 default installations of Cygwin and Xfree86, that
> running $ ./XWin.exe -query host.ip.address brings up the X window, but
> the pointer just moves a little and nothing comes up for any of the
> known-to-work machines I'm trying to grab a display from.
>
> I'm not running any firewalling either...
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Marc
>
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr  3 22:33:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 22:33:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 54
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Oops, the following should have been part of the original announcement:

2) Change winkeybd.c/winKeybdBell () to call MessageBeep (MB_OK)
instead of Beep (0, 0).  Beep () uses the PC speaker on Windows
NT/2000, which isn't desireable.  It also seems that Beep () may have
been causing freezes for some users.


Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:44 PM
> To: cygx
> Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 54
> 
> 
> Links:
> 
> I just posted Test 54 to the server development page:
> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/
> 
> Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now
> available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network
> (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the
> pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory.  You may wish to note the
> desired filename in the links below, then download from your
> closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html).
> 
> Server binary, direct link:
> http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test54.exe.bz2 (1077 KiB)
> 
> Server source, direct link:
> http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20020403-2033.tar.bz
2 (69 KiB)


Changes:

1) Attempt to make WarpCursor function correctly by adding function
winWarpCursor.  The new function calls SetCursorPos () with the x and
y coordinates passed to winWarpCursor.  Hopefully this works.


Enjoy,

Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr  3 22:35:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 22:35:00 -0000
Subject: Sound makes cygwin/xfree86 lock up
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

I'd like Joe and Tom to try Test54, as I have included the change described
below in this build.

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/

Thanks,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 12:01 AM
> To: bozackt1@ridgecrest.ca.us; Perches, Joe
> Cc: cygx
> Subject: RE: Sound makes cygwin/xfree86 lock up
>
>
> Tom,
>
> I changed xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winkeybd.c/winKeybdBell() to the
> following a few weeks ago:
>   /*
>    * We can't use Beep () here because it uses the PC speaker
>    * on NT/2000.  MessageBeep (MB_OK) will play the default system
>    * sound on systems with a sound card or it will beep the PC speaker
>    * on systems that do not have a sound card.
>    */
>   MessageBeep (MB_OK);
>
> The previous function called Beep (), which doesn't really work, according
> to the message that I put in above.
>
> You could make the function do nothing and see if that helps.  I
> assume that
> you know how to compile Cygwin/XFree86 (if not, see the Contributor's
> Guide).
>
> As for XDMCP stability, I and several other people (probably over
> hundreds)
> use XDMCP all the time without any stability problems.  Is there anything
> strange about your machine (low RAM, weird NIC (possibly token ring?), or
> are you running under Windows 95 or have you had lots of software
> installed
> and uninstalled on your machine (that can cause DLL mismatches,
> etc.)).  You
> could always visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and install all
> updates available (that will take several reboots) to see if that helps.
>
> Anyhow, I have to go,
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom Bozack [mailto:bozackt1@ridgecrest.ca.us]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:31 PM
> > To: Perches, Joe
> > Cc: 'huntharo@msu.edu'
> > Subject: Re: Sound makes cygwin/xfree86 lock up
> >
> >
> > I have no insight into how to debug this problem.  However, I have
> > notices that it has the appearance of a massive memory leak.  Whatever
> > triggers the problem causes system memory to be rapidly used up at which
> > point xfree86 becomes unresponsive.  If left in that state xfree86 will
> >   sometimes crash with a segmentation fault.
> >
> > I hope someone can figure out how to fix the problem.  As it is xfree86
> > using xdmcp isn't stable enough on my systems for routine use.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > Perches, Joe wrote:
> > > I have an identical problem, and can't figure it out.
> > > I've looked through the X code looking for how "ctrl-g"
> > > bells are forwarded, but don't see why it's failing.
> > >
> > > I've looked round through the xfree 86 code and don't
> > > see a particular failure mode.
> > >
> > > Do either of you have a debugging methodology I should
> > > follow to trace down this?
> >
> >
> >
>


From mshley@csee.wvu.edu  Wed Apr  3 22:36:00 2002
From: mshley@csee.wvu.edu (Marc)
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 22:36:00 -0000
Subject: Log file for Win2k/Remote Login Screen 
Message-ID: 

Here's what /tmp/XWin.log has to say... but I can't pick anything out of
it that looks like an error message..

ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1280 h 1024
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits
per pix
el
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found BOTTOM auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1023 1280
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1274 h 998 r 1274 l 0
b 998
t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 3824
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning

And thats where it ends... 

Thanks for the help!
--Marc


From jaelong@lge.com  Wed Apr  3 22:37:00 2002
From: jaelong@lge.com (=?euc-kr?B?sejA57/r?=)
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 22:37:00 -0000
Subject: Any enlightenment package?
Message-ID: 

I have tried to install enlightenment and installed various library and
program for that.
But I met error during make enlightenment.. like this
--
/home/Administrator/src/enlight/dox/ttfont.c:574: undefined reference to
`XShmCreateImage'
/home/Administrator/src/enlight/dox/ttfont.c:589: undefined reference to
`shmget'
/home/Administrator/src/enlight/dox/ttfont.c:601: undefined reference to
`shmat'
/home/Administrator/src/enlight/dox/ttfont.c:609: undefined reference to
`shmget'

I have no idea how to solve this problem.
And please let me know where I can find enlightenment package. if any.
And another question. I have loved fvwm2 in Solaris a few years ago and
have used
Gnome+enllghtenment for a while in Redhat.
I heard enlightenment is very new window manager. and is it better than
fvwm2?
Please answer.


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr  3 22:41:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 22:41:00 -0000
Subject: Log file for Win2k/Remote Login Screen 
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Marc,

You're right, there are no errors in the log file.

What sort of machine are you trying to connect to?  Are you using a command
line as described in the User's Guide?

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html

Can you ping the remote machines in question?  Are they connected via
ethernet or over a cable-modem or telephone line?  How do you know that they
are "known-good", have you used Exceed or X-Win32 or some such X Server to
connect to those machines?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Marc
> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 1:36 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Log file for Win2k/Remote Login Screen
>
>
> Here's what /tmp/XWin.log has to say... but I can't pick anything out of
> it that looks like an error message..
>
> ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
> winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1280 h 1024
> _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits
> per pix
> el
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1024 1280
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found BOTTOM auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1023 1280
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1274 h 998 r 1274 l 0
> b 998
> t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 3824
> winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
> 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
>
> And thats where it ends...
>
> Thanks for the help!
> --Marc
>


From mshley@csee.wvu.edu  Wed Apr  3 22:48:00 2002
From: mshley@csee.wvu.edu (Marc)
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 22:48:00 -0000
Subject: Log file for Win2k/Remote Login Screen
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1017902953.31089.16.camel@trilogy>

Thansk for the help Harold.

I'm an admin for our CS dept at WVU. 

A few people on my staff and I have it working under Win98 on a few
machines, and on another two Win2000 machines, all with default
installations.  

The machines that I know are working fine are a RedHat 7.2 machine and a
Sun Solaris machine.  Both remote login windows open fine, as do logging
in and running applications. 

But for some reason, the same default installation on my machine isn't
working to grab their displays.  I'm going to check the link you sent
also.

Thanks,
Marc



From mbardiaux@peaktime.be  Thu Apr  4 01:05:00 2002
From: mbardiaux@peaktime.be (Michel Bardiaux)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 01:05:00 -0000
Subject: Status of "seamless" integration?
References:  <3CAA394C.9020104@stanfordalumni.org> <20020402231048.GK1115@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <3CAA4FA7.1060504@znark.com> <3CAABB49.5D208B4C@peaktime.be> <3CABA8DA.30002@stanfordalumni.org>
Message-ID: <3CAC174B.A85620C5@peaktime.be>

Ian Burrell wrote:
> 
> Michel Bardiaux wrote:
> >
> > Aye, there's the rub. When the X application pops up a menu, it must
> > grab the keyboard and the *whole* screen. In other words, a "system
> > modal" window is required, which means one can't use an internal WM but
> > must use MS-Windows as WM - while still being responsive to ICCM.
> >
> 
> Does the menu need to be truly modal on the Windows side? The menu
> window has the focus so it will get keyboard events. It can be modal
> with respect to all the other X server-owned windows. It is harder to
> make it modal relative to Windows.

But one *has* to. Otherwise the "feel" of menus would be wrong (you
could click in some parts of the screen without dismissing the menu).
> 
> Just to make sure we are using the same terms, what I mean by an
> internal window manager one running inside the X server. I am taking my
> cue from the eXcursion2 design document. Windows is generating the move,
> resize, etc events. The window manager hooks into the X server Windows
> event loop and handles window state events. The internal window manager
> should act as proper window manager which presumably means talking to
> the server.
> 
> The other way I can see to handle a rootless X server is with a separate
> X client window manager. For each root-level X window, there is a
> corresponding Windows window. But without any frame at all. The window
> manager draws the frame 

It would have to know the appropriate MS-Windows look. Because IMHO
"seamless" means that you *don't* have to know whether a window is X or
'true MS-Windows'.

> and handles moving, resizing, and all that.

Wouldn't that be very inefficient; and also prevent things like outline
move/resize?

> The
> X server is responsible of moving the Windows window.
> 
> Does any of this make sense?

Perfect sense. 
> 
>   - Ian
> --
> iburrell@stanfordalumni.org
> http://www.znark.com/

HaND
-- 
Michel Bardiaux
Peaktime Belgium S.A.  Bd. du Souverain, 191  B-1160 Bruxelles
Tel : +32 2 790.29.41


From k.vriezen@vgelder.com  Thu Apr  4 03:02:00 2002
From: k.vriezen@vgelder.com (Koos Vriezen)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 03:02:00 -0000
Subject: XFree speed problems with W2k
Message-ID: 

Hi,

I read serveral mailings about speed problems, but none seem to solve my 
problem.
In our network we have a Linux box (RH7,1) configured for xdm. Xwin 
runs fine on the Win98 and WinNT boxes, but it's very slow on W2k.

I use this script for starting Xwin:

SET MAKE_MODE=UNIX
SET PATH=s:\develop\unix\cygwin\bin;s:\develop\unix\cygwin\usr\bin;s:\develop\unix\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin;%windir%\system32;%windir%\command
mount -f s:/develop/unix/cygwin /
mount -f "%tmp%" /tmp
SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
SET HOME=z:\
XWin -query 192.168.1.200 -nowinkill -unixkill -once -fp tcp/192.168.1.200:7100

On W2k it takes minutes to get de xdm login screen, while eating a lot of 
CPU time. Everyting you do from then is slow and CPU expensive.
The W2k boxes have SP2 installed.
Another strange thing is the contents of xwin.log, it only contains two 
lines:
ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768

On win98 I see a lot more:
ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 16 i: 3
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000017
winSetEngine () - Using user's preference: 1
winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits 
per pixel
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l 0 
b 715 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsGDI () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 16
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
 
Any ideas?

Regards,

Koos Vriezen


From edi@serbski-institut.de  Thu Apr  4 03:57:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 03:57:00 -0000
Subject: XFree speed problems with W2k
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020404.135312.74720575.edi@serbski-institut.de>

> On W2k it takes minutes to get de xdm login screen, while eating a lot of 
> CPU time. Everyting you do from then is slow and CPU expensive.
> The W2k boxes have SP2 installed.

What is SP2? I have experienced speed problems with win98 which went away
after 
- disabling virus scanners running in background like McAffee
- disabling ATI Graphic utilities (disable and remove from registry)
  which do next to nothing but eat up to 85% of the resources.

Hope this helps

Edi


From list-cygwin.xfree@spoiled.org  Thu Apr  4 04:05:00 2002
From: list-cygwin.xfree@spoiled.org (thomas graichen)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 04:05:00 -0000
Subject: Status of "seamless" integration?
References:  <3CAA394C.9020104@stanfordalumni.org> <20020402231048.GK1115@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <3CAA4FA7.1060504@znark.com> <3CAABB49.5D208B4C@peaktime.be> <3CABA8DA.30002@stanfordalumni.org> <3CAC174B.A85620C5@peaktime.be>
Message-ID: 

just a sidenote: it might be a good idea to have a look at the
rootless x-server for macos-x in xfree86 (but maybe there
everything is completely different) ... just an idea

t

-- 
thomas graichen  ... perfection is reached, not
when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no
longer anything to take away. --- antoine de saint-exupery


From k.vriezen@vgelder.com  Thu Apr  4 04:22:00 2002
From: k.vriezen@vgelder.com (Koos Vriezen)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 04:22:00 -0000
Subject: XFree speed problems with W2k
In-Reply-To: <20020404.135312.74720575.edi@serbski-institut.de>
Message-ID: 

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, PD Dr. Edward Wornar wrote:

> > On W2k it takes minutes to get de xdm login screen, while eating a lot of 
> > CPU time. Everyting you do from then is slow and CPU expensive.
> > The W2k boxes have SP2 installed.
> 
> What is SP2? I have experienced speed problems with win98 which went away
> after 
> - disabling virus scanners running in background like McAffee
> - disabling ATI Graphic utilities (disable and remove from registry)
>   which do next to nothing but eat up to 85% of the resources.

Thanks, it was Norten AV's auto protect. Funny, only W2k suffers from it.

BTW, SP2 comes from W2ksp2.exe of 103 Mb (don't ask me more).

Regards,

Koos Vriezen


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Thu Apr  4 04:41:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 04:41:00 -0000
Subject: XFree speed problems with W2k
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

| BTW, SP2 comes from W2ksp2.exe of 103 Mb (don't ask me more).

SP2, Servicepack 2, downloadable from IE, tools->windows update..

        /Andy
-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr  4 04:48:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 04:48:00 -0000
Subject: FW: missing telnet, solution
Message-ID: 

Phil Burk sent this to me.

Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Burk [mailto:philburk@softsynth.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 2:16 AM
To: Harold Hunt
Subject: Re: missing telnet, solution


Hello Harold,

Thanks for updating the doc! It seems like a minor thing but it will save
folks like me from many hours of head scratching.

Phill Burk

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: "Phil Burk" ; 
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 9:58 PM
Subject: RE: missing telnet, solution


> Phil,
>
> I updated the User's Guide to say that most users will find the default
> package list sufficient, but that you want to make sure that openssh and
> inetutils are selected if you wish to use telnet or ssh.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Phil Burk
> > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:49 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: missing telnet, solution
> >
> >
> > I followed all the steps to install Cygwin/XFree from the user guide.
> > Everything worked great until I got to the part about telnet. It
> > was missing
> > from my installation. I spent about two hours looking over the Cygwin
site
> > trying to figure out how to get and install telnet. I noticed in
> > this forum
> > that other folks had the same problem but no working solution was
offered.
> >
> > I finally figured it out. Here's how:
> >
> > - re-run the SETUP.EXE program that you used to install Cygwin,
> >
> > - select "Install from Internet" option,
> >
> > - select same install directory as before,
> >
> > - choose a download site as before,
> >
> > - when you get a list of packages, click the '+' next to the
> > "Net" category,
> >
> > - select the "inetutils" package and the "openssh" package,
> >
> > - continue downloading.
> >
> > Your installation will be updated with those new packages.
> >
> > Perhaps the Cygwin/XFree86 User Guide could be modified to make
> > sure telnet
> > and ssh get included in the installation the first time. It
> > currently tells
> > people to leave the default settings alone but the default does
> > not include
> > telnet.
> >
> > Phil Burk
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


From BillT@VideoTele.com  Thu Apr  4 07:49:00 2002
From: BillT@VideoTele.com (Trost, Bill)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 07:49:00 -0000
Subject: XWarpCursor doesn't "stick"
Message-ID: 

    From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
    
    I'd like you to try the new Test 54 server that I just put 
    together and announced to the list.  Please let me know if it fixes your
problem.
    
That's better, but still not quite right -- it looks as though the pointer
is being visually warped to a window location, but logically warped to a
screen location. That is, the pointer now jumps by the X server window's
distance from the screen's <0, 0> location when I move the mouse.


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr  4 08:02:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 08:02:00 -0000
Subject: XWarpCursor doesn't "stick"
Message-ID: <200204041602.g34G2id25202@pilot13.cl.msu.edu>

Bill,

So lets say that the Windows cursor is at 100, 100 (screen coords), the upper 
left-hand corner of the Cygwin/XFree86 client area is at 25, 25 (screen 
coords) and a warp request comes in to move to the X cursor to 200, 200 (X 
windows coords).  I am thinking of two things that you could be saying:

1) The cursor stays in the same place because the request was for a 
translation of 100, 100, which is the same location that the cursor is 
presently at.  (In other words, I am receiving an offset to move the mouse by 
and I'm instead treating those values as the final destination coordinates).

2) Or, I receive a request to move the cursor to a final location of 200, 200 
and I do so, which fails to take into account that the X cursor root is at 
25, 25 in Windows screen coodinates.

Which one is it?

I think it sounds like #2, in which case the (x,y) that I get in 
winWarpCursor are the final destination values, but I need to query for the 
upper-left hand corner of the Cygwin/XFree86 client area before calling 
SetCursorPos so that I can offset the final destination.

We'll get it right eventually.

Notice that no one has really request the WarpCursor functionality before, 
that's why it doesn't work yet. :)

Harold


"Trost, Bill"  said:

>     From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
>     
>     I'd like you to try the new Test 54 server that I just put 
>     together and announced to the list.  Please let me know if it fixes your
> problem.
>     
> That's better, but still not quite right -- it looks as though the pointer
> is being visually warped to a window location, but logically warped to a
> screen location. That is, the pointer now jumps by the X server window's
> distance from the screen's <0, 0> location when I move the mouse.
> 




From BillT@VideoTele.com  Thu Apr  4 08:42:00 2002
From: BillT@VideoTele.com (Trost, Bill)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 08:42:00 -0000
Subject: XWarpCursor doesn't "stick"
Message-ID: 

    From: Harold L Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
    
    So lets say that the Windows cursor is at 100, 100 (screen 
    coords), the upper left-hand corner of the Cygwin/XFree86 client area is
at 
    25, 25 (screen coords) and a warp request comes in to move to the X
cursor 
    to 200, 200 (X windows coords).  I am thinking of two things that you 
    could be saying:
    
    1) ...
    
    2) Or, I receive a request to move the cursor to a final 
    location of 200, 200 and I do so, which fails to take into account that
the X 
    cursor root is at 25, 25 in Windows screen coodinates.
    
It looks like #2 to me. Email sure makes it hard to explain some things,
doesn't it?

Visually, the effect is, if I simply run "XWin" (so that the X root occupies
a maximized Windows window), after a large warp, tweaking the mouse will
cause the pointer to jump up one title-bar height.
    
    ...I need to query for the 
    upper-left hand corner of the Cygwin/XFree86 client area 
    before calling SetCursorPos so that I can offset the final destination.
    
That's what I guess needs fixing.
    
    Notice that no one has really request the WarpCursor 
    functionality before, that's why it doesn't work yet. :)
    
Really?  I'm shocked!   (-:

    


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr  4 19:15:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 19:15:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 55
Message-ID: 

Links:

I just posted Test 55 to the server development page:
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/

Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now
available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network
(http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the
pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory.  You may wish to note the
desired filename in the links below, then download from your
closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html).

Server binary, direct link:
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test55.exe.bz2 (1078 KiB)

Server source, direct link:
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20020404-2206.tar.bz2 (70 KiB)


Changes:

1) Try to fix winPointerWarpCursor by offsetting by the coordinates
of the Cygwin/XFree86 client area upper left-hand corner.


Enjoy,

Harold


From mykbourassa@cogeco.ca  Thu Apr  4 19:24:00 2002
From: mykbourassa@cogeco.ca (Mike)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 19:24:00 -0000
Subject: App Unable to Access X Display
Message-ID: <3CAD1A08.AD0A8B44@cogeco.ca>

Hello.  My name is Mike.  I am running Win 2000 Pro.  I have recently
tried to install the Lyx Latex editor.  I had a successful
XFree86/Cygwin and,
by all indications, Lyx install.  When I try to launch Lyx, I receive
the error "cannot access X display, exiting."  I raise the issue here
because it does not seem to have been resolved at the "Lyx" end of
things and thus may be a bigger problem than just the app itself.

The pat response to the query from the Lyx side of the house is to
modify the Lyx config file.  Specifically, to change the variable
"DISPLAY ="  from " localhost:0.0" to the computer's IP address e.g.
"192.168.0.102:0.0".  Unfortunately, several posts seem to indicate that

this does not necessarily work.  Certainly, in my case it hasn't.  The
other pat answer is to make sure any firewalls allow local port access.
This does not seem to resolve the issue either.  I have searched the
internet and mail archives and still haven't found a solution.

Again, I raise the issue simply in case it matters to you.  If you have
an insight it would be appreciated.  Meanwhile, I will return to trying
to convince my department that even if it isn't WYSIWYG, Latex is still
worth a shot.  Cheers.

Mike




From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Thu Apr  4 21:30:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 21:30:00 -0000
Subject: App Unable to Access X Display
In-Reply-To: <3CAD1A08.AD0A8B44@cogeco.ca>
References: <3CAD1A08.AD0A8B44@cogeco.ca>
Message-ID: 

Have you ran startxwin.bat/.sh first? 

Tried it from a xterm? 

Hmm weird lyx has display in a config-file.. 

        /Andy
| 
| The pat response to the query from the Lyx side of the house is to
| modify the Lyx config file.  Specifically, to change the variable
| "DISPLAY ="  from " localhost:0.0" to the computer's IP address e.g.
| "192.168.0.102:0.0".  Unfortunately, several posts seem to indicate that

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From saunup@hotmail.com  Thu Apr  4 22:01:00 2002
From: saunup@hotmail.com (Saurabh Nupur)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 22:01:00 -0000
Subject: cx-logos
Message-ID: 

hello all,

i made some logos.

http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_2.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_3.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_4.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_1.jpg

suggestions and comments are welcome

nupur 


From starksb@ebi.ac.uk  Fri Apr  5 03:34:00 2002
From: starksb@ebi.ac.uk (David Starks-Browning)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 03:34:00 -0000
Subject: cx-logos
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <5497-Fri05Apr2002113432+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk>

On Thursday 4 Apr 02, Saurabh Nupur writes:
> hello all,
> 
> i made some logos.
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_2.jpg
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_3.jpg
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_4.jpg
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_1.jpg
> 
> suggestions and comments are welcome

Personally, I don't find that "CX" conveys "Cygwin/XFree86" very
well.  But I don't have other suggestions, sorry.

David


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Fri Apr  5 03:48:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 03:48:00 -0000
Subject: cx-logos
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Saurabh Nupur wrote:

> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_4.jpg

I like this one. 

bye
	ago
-- 
 Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017


From briangenisio@yahoo.com  Fri Apr  5 04:01:00 2002
From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 04:01:00 -0000
Subject: cx-logos
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020405120108.61875.qmail@web20805.mail.yahoo.com>

Yes, I like this one the best as well.  I believe it is very important to
convey that this is a port of the XFree86 software.  This logo does it well
with it's "86".  Might I suggest also incorporating some identification of
Cygwin?  There are two logos I have seen (www.cygwin.com), the one that looks
like a copyright symbol with an arrow, and the BlackAndGreen, ugly Cygwin icon.
 Possibly, you can incorporate one of those feels?

Also, have you seen the X logo? (Open the X server, and run xlogo.exe)  This is
kind of a standard X-windows protocol logo.  You might want to incorporate that
somehow.

Just my 2 cents,
Brian

--- Alexander Gottwald  wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Saurabh Nupur wrote:
> 
> > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_4.jpg
> 
> I like this one. 
> 
> bye
> 	ago
> -- 
>  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
>  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
>  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017
> 


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr  5 05:05:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 05:05:00 -0000
Subject: cx-logos
In-Reply-To: <20020405120108.61875.qmail@web20805.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

I'm not so sure that we are allowed to use the X logo.  That would have to
be looked into before we started using it.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Brian Genisio
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 7:01 AM
> To: Alexander Gottwald; Saurabh Nupur
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: cx-logos
>
>
> Yes, I like this one the best as well.  I believe it is very important to
> convey that this is a port of the XFree86 software.  This logo
> does it well
> with it's "86".  Might I suggest also incorporating some identification of
> Cygwin?  There are two logos I have seen (www.cygwin.com), the
> one that looks
> like a copyright symbol with an arrow, and the BlackAndGreen,
> ugly Cygwin icon.
>  Possibly, you can incorporate one of those feels?
>
> Also, have you seen the X logo? (Open the X server, and run
> xlogo.exe)  This is
> kind of a standard X-windows protocol logo.  You might want to
> incorporate that
> somehow.
>
> Just my 2 cents,
> Brian
>
> --- Alexander Gottwald
>  wrote:
> > On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Saurabh Nupur wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_4.jpg
> >
> > I like this one.
> >
> > bye
> > 	ago
> > --
> >  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
> >  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
> >  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017
> >
>
>
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From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Fri Apr  5 05:36:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 05:36:00 -0000
Subject: App Unable to Acceess X Display
In-Reply-To: <3CAD02D1.40A73FFC@cogeco.ca>
References: <3CAD02D1.40A73FFC@cogeco.ca>
Message-ID: <20020405133649.GB11818@redhat.com>

Redirected to proper mailing list.

On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 08:50:10PM -0500, Mike wrote:
>Hello.  My name is Mike.  I am running Win 2000 Pro.  I have recently
>tried to install the Lyx Latex editor.  I had a successful Cygwin and,
>by all indications, Lyx install.  When I try to launch Lyx, I receive
>the error "cannot access X display, exiting."  I raise the issue here
>because it does not seem to have been resolved at the "Lyx" end of
>things and thus may be a bigger problem than just the app itself.

>The pat response to the query from the Lyx side of the house is to
>modify the Lyx config file.  Specifically, to change the variable
>"DISPLAY ="  from " localhost:0.0" to the computer's IP address e.g.
>"192.168.0.102:0.0".  Unfortunately, several posts seem to indicate that
>this does not necessarily work.  Certainly, in my case it hasn't.  The
>other pat answer is to make sure any firewalls allow local port access.
>This does not seem to resolve the issue either.  I have searched the
>internet and mail archives and still haven't found a solution.
>
>Again, I raise the issue simply in case it matters to you.  If you have
>an insight it would be appreciated.  Meanwhile, I will return to trying
>to convince my department that even if it isn't WYSIWYG, Latex is still
>worth a shot.  Cheers.


From bax3@bigfoot.com  Fri Apr  5 06:48:00 2002
From: bax3@bigfoot.com (Michael)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 06:48:00 -0000
Subject: Missing terminfo data in XFree86 4.2.0
Message-ID: 

Hi

I ran into the following problem with the current XFree86 distribution, but
could not find any mention of any solution here or elsewhere.

SYMPTOMS
--------
* "vt102" terminal setting (TERM) in xterm windows instead of "xterm"
* "WARNING: terminal is not fully functional" error messages from /bin/less
* Missing /usr/share/terminfo/x/xterm and other terminfo data files

CAUSE
-----
1. The current XFree86 for Cygwin distribution is missing the file
   xterm.terminfo (but not xterm.termcap) in Xlib.tgz.  (However this is
   not true for other distributions, eg FreeBSD.)  It is missing in the
   distribution available from the Cygwin mirrors and the distribution
   available directly from XFree86.
2. After unpacking the distribution files, the script Xinstall.sh asks the
   user whether to update the terminfo entries.  The default is no, but the
   blurb notes that new features will be unavailable otherwise.

If the user says yes:
3. The script moves a number of existing terminfo entries to *.bak
4. The script tries to run tic on /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/etc/xterm.terminfo to
   replace them
5. Since this file is not present, tic fails
6. The following terminfo files are subsequently effectively missing: xterm,
   xterms, xterm-24, xterm-vi, xterm-65, xterm-bold, xtermm, xterm-boldso,
   xterm-ic, xterm-r6, xterm-old, xterm-r5, vs100

INTERIM SOLUTIONS
-----------------
During install (pre-emptive):
	* Do not elect to update terminfo entries
After install (treatment):
	* Setting the TERM variable to another value such as cygwin or ansi is
	  a temporary workaround
	* Moving the renamed files back to their original names reverses the
	  damage ("mv xterm.bak xterm" etc)

DISTRIBUTION FIX?
-----------------
Include the file or change the installation script

QUESTIONS
---------
* Is there some reason xterm.terminfo is missing, or is this an error?
* Is it possible to use e.g. the FreeBSD distribution's xterm.terminfo file?
* Is it advised against updating the terminfo data?
* If so, then what about updating termcap entries (suggested by Xinstall.h)?
* What is lost by not using the new terminfo data?

Thanks
Michael


From salexander@taz.qinetiq.com  Fri Apr  5 07:24:00 2002
From: salexander@taz.qinetiq.com (Scott Alexander)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 07:24:00 -0000
Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
Message-ID: <000701c1dcb6$292d7c90$2153b80a@gooshy>

Hi,

My server has just been upgraded to kde 3.0 running redhat 7.2.  I use =
cygwin with xfree86 to connect to this server using

x -query 

I have been doing this for a while with kde 2.2.2 with no problems.  =
However when i connect to it now with kde 3 my screen has no icons or =
icons on the kicker bar at the bottom. =20

Does anyone know of this problem and a solution for it.

My machine runs w2k with up 2 date cygwin and xfree86.

Cheers

Scott Alexander


From jozsefke@freemail.hu  Fri Apr  5 07:32:00 2002
From: jozsefke@freemail.hu (jozsefke@freemail.hu)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 07:32:00 -0000
Subject: Help on XDM with Solaris Host
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020405172708.00a72270@freemail.hu>

Hi everybody!

I have exactly the same problem, but the solution
mentioned below I don't understand.
What does it mean 'tcp/solaris_box:7100'?
Is it a path, or what?
Bo, please be more specific.

Thanks,
  joco


 >Thanks to derk.steggewentz. The problem was solved.
 >I only need to point the font path to the font server which is
 >already running on my Solaris box.
 >    XWin -query solaris_box -fp tcp/solaris_box:7100
 >Bo


 >  -----Original Message-----
 > From:         Zhang, Bo
 > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:01 AM
 > To:   'cygwin-xfree@xfree86.cygwin.com'
 > Subject:      Help on XDM with Solaris Host
 >
 >
 > I found in the Cygwin/Xfree86 FAQ there is a similar issue, which
 > was supposed to have been solved by installing the latest Solaris
 > patches.
 >
 > I did install all the recommended patches. And my XWin still can't
 > come up with XDMCP.
 >
 > I got the following error messages after XWin hang for a long time
 > and timed-out:
 >
 >     winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
 >     winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
 >     winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
 >     winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
 >     winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
 >     winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1274 h 970 r 1274
 > l 0 b 970 t 0
 >     winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
 > 32
 >     winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
 >     AUDIT: Wed Dec 12 16:50:25 2001: 255 XWin: client 1 rejected from IP
 > 172.16.33.210 port 33748
 >        Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: -1
 >     XDM: too many keepalive retransmissions, declaring session dead
 >
 > Can anyone help me out?
 >
 > Thanks,
 >
 > Bo
 >
 >
 >        -----Original Message-----
 >       From:   Zhang, Bo
 >       Sent:   Tuesday, December 11, 2001 6:37 PM
 >       To:     'cygwin-xfree@xfree86.cygwin.com'
 >       Subject:        Help on XDM with Solaris Host
 >
 >
 >       Hello, everyone,
 >
 >       I have installed Cygwin/Xfree86 on my NT machine. XWin worked fine
 >       as a standalone X-server. However, I couldn't get XDM to work with
 > my
 >       Solaris 2.8. The root window is opened, but it hangs there. It looks
 > like
 >       some kind of infinite loop (CPU ustilization on my PC goes 100% for
 > a
 >       very long time), but Alt-F4 still works.
 >
 >       Has anyone experienced this before? Does anyone has solutions to it?
 >
 >       Thanks,
 >
 >       Bo Zhang



From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr  5 08:36:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 08:36:00 -0000
Subject: Missing terminfo data in XFree86 4.2.0
Message-ID: <200204051636.g35Gaex36888@pilot16.cl.msu.edu>

Michael,

You already know way more about the problem than I do.  I have never seen the 
problem described so completely.

Reasoning from what you have said leads me to believe that the packaging 
script that we use (same as all of the other XFree86 platforms) may be 
misbehaving and accidentally leaving out said file.

I guess what needs to happen is for Alan or I to take a look at the packaging 
process and see if there is an error that indicates that this is indeed 
happening.

Or, you could take a look for yourself (since you know more about the 
problem), by following the build and packing instructions in the 
Cygwin/XFree86 Contributor's Guide:

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/

Harold


Michael  said:

> Hi
> 
> I ran into the following problem with the current XFree86 distribution, but
> could not find any mention of any solution here or elsewhere.
> 
> SYMPTOMS
> --------
> * "vt102" terminal setting (TERM) in xterm windows instead of "xterm"
> * "WARNING: terminal is not fully functional" error messages from /bin/less
> * Missing /usr/share/terminfo/x/xterm and other terminfo data files
> 
> CAUSE
> -----
> 1. The current XFree86 for Cygwin distribution is missing the file
>    xterm.terminfo (but not xterm.termcap) in Xlib.tgz.  (However this is
>    not true for other distributions, eg FreeBSD.)  It is missing in the
>    distribution available from the Cygwin mirrors and the distribution
>    available directly from XFree86.
> 2. After unpacking the distribution files, the script Xinstall.sh asks the
>    user whether to update the terminfo entries.  The default is no, but the
>    blurb notes that new features will be unavailable otherwise.
> 
> If the user says yes:
> 3. The script moves a number of existing terminfo entries to *.bak
> 4. The script tries to run tic on /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/etc/xterm.terminfo to
>    replace them
> 5. Since this file is not present, tic fails
> 6. The following terminfo files are subsequently effectively missing: xterm,
>    xterms, xterm-24, xterm-vi, xterm-65, xterm-bold, xtermm, xterm-boldso,
>    xterm-ic, xterm-r6, xterm-old, xterm-r5, vs100
> 
> INTERIM SOLUTIONS
> -----------------
> During install (pre-emptive):
> 	* Do not elect to update terminfo entries
> After install (treatment):
> 	* Setting the TERM variable to another value such as cygwin or ansi is
> 	  a temporary workaround
> 	* Moving the renamed files back to their original names reverses the
> 	  damage ("mv xterm.bak xterm" etc)
> 
> DISTRIBUTION FIX?
> -----------------
> Include the file or change the installation script
> 
> QUESTIONS
> ---------
> * Is there some reason xterm.terminfo is missing, or is this an error?
> * Is it possible to use e.g. the FreeBSD distribution's xterm.terminfo file?
> * Is it advised against updating the terminfo data?
> * If so, then what about updating termcap entries (suggested by Xinstall.h)?
> * What is lost by not using the new terminfo data?
> 
> Thanks
> Michael
> 
> 




From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr  5 08:42:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 08:42:00 -0000
Subject: Help on XDM with Solaris Host
Message-ID: <200204051642.g35Ggix47996@pilot16.cl.msu.edu>

Joco,

The question has been answered more specifically:

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-solaris-fonts

Harold

jozsefke@freemail.hu said:

> Hi everybody!
> 
> I have exactly the same problem, but the solution
> mentioned below I don't understand.
> What does it mean 'tcp/solaris_box:7100'?
> Is it a path, or what?
> Bo, please be more specific.
> 
> Thanks,
>   joco
> 
> 
>  >Thanks to derk.steggewentz. The problem was solved.
>  >I only need to point the font path to the font server which is
>  >already running on my Solaris box.
>  >    XWin -query solaris_box -fp tcp/solaris_box:7100
>  >Bo
> 
> 
>  >  -----Original Message-----
>  > From:         Zhang, Bo
>  > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:01 AM
>  > To:   'cygwin-xfree@xfree86.cygwin.com'
>  > Subject:      Help on XDM with Solaris Host
>  >
>  >
>  > I found in the Cygwin/Xfree86 FAQ there is a similar issue, which
>  > was supposed to have been solved by installing the latest Solaris
>  > patches.
>  >
>  > I did install all the recommended patches. And my XWin still can't
>  > come up with XDMCP.
>  >
>  > I got the following error messages after XWin hang for a long time
>  > and timed-out:
>  >
>  >     winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
>  >     winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
>  >     winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
>  >     winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
>  >     winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
>  >     winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1274 h 970 r 1274
>  > l 0 b 970 t 0
>  >     winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 
d
>  > 32
>  >     winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
>  >     AUDIT: Wed Dec 12 16:50:25 2001: 255 XWin: client 1 rejected from IP
>  > 172.16.33.210 port 33748
>  >        Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: -1
>  >     XDM: too many keepalive retransmissions, declaring session dead
>  >
>  > Can anyone help me out?
>  >
>  > Thanks,
>  >
>  > Bo
>  >
>  >
>  >        -----Original Message-----
>  >       From:   Zhang, Bo
>  >       Sent:   Tuesday, December 11, 2001 6:37 PM
>  >       To:     'cygwin-xfree@xfree86.cygwin.com'
>  >       Subject:        Help on XDM with Solaris Host
>  >
>  >
>  >       Hello, everyone,
>  >
>  >       I have installed Cygwin/Xfree86 on my NT machine. XWin worked fine
>  >       as a standalone X-server. However, I couldn't get XDM to work with
>  > my
>  >       Solaris 2.8. The root window is opened, but it hangs there. It 
looks
>  > like
>  >       some kind of infinite loop (CPU ustilization on my PC goes 100% for
>  > a
>  >       very long time), but Alt-F4 still works.
>  >
>  >       Has anyone experienced this before? Does anyone has solutions to 
it?
>  >
>  >       Thanks,
>  >
>  >       Bo Zhang
> 
> 
> 




From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr  5 08:48:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 08:48:00 -0000
Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
Message-ID: <200204051648.g35GmEx48722@pilot16.cl.msu.edu>

Scott,

That doesn't sound good.

I haven't yet installed KDE 3.0 and I won't have time to for at least a week, 
so I won't have a chance to look into this for some time.

I know you say that Cygwin/XFree86 is up-to-date, but are you running 
Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0?  You can check by running 'xdpyinfo' in a local 
Cygwin/XFree86 session or in a terminal when you are logged into another 
machine via XDMCP.

Awaiting a chance to investiage this,

Harold

Scott Alexander  said:

> Hi,
> 
> My server has just been upgraded to kde 3.0 running redhat 7.2.  I use =
> cygwin with xfree86 to connect to this server using
> 
> x -query 
> 
> I have been doing this for a while with kde 2.2.2 with no problems.  =
> However when i connect to it now with kde 3 my screen has no icons or =
> icons on the kicker bar at the bottom. =20
> 
> Does anyone know of this problem and a solution for it.
> 
> My machine runs w2k with up 2 date cygwin and xfree86.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Scott Alexander
> 
> 




From nik@bates-haus.org  Fri Apr  5 09:02:00 2002
From: nik@bates-haus.org (Nikolaus Bates-Haus)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 09:02:00 -0000
Subject: cx-logos
In-Reply-To: <5497-Fri05Apr2002113432+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk>
References:  <5497-Fri05Apr2002113432+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <20020405170203.GA542@rover.bates-haus.org>

Thanks for taking the time to put these together; I even have a suggestion!

I agree that a plain "CX" doesn't really convey Cygwin/XFree86; but the
Cygwin logo ( http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/cygwin-icon.gif ) combined
with the X logo ( generally available in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/xlogo64 ) _would_ be clear.

-nik


On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 11:34:32AM +0000, David Starks-Browning wrote:
> On Thursday 4 Apr 02, Saurabh Nupur writes:
> > hello all,
> > 
> > i made some logos.
> > 
> > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_2.jpg
> > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_3.jpg
> > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_4.jpg
> > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_1.jpg
> > 
> > suggestions and comments are welcome
> 
> Personally, I don't find that "CX" conveys "Cygwin/XFree86" very
> well.  But I don't have other suggestions, sorry.
> 
> David
> 


From cgf@redhat.com  Fri Apr  5 09:04:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 09:04:00 -0000
Subject: cx-logos
In-Reply-To: <20020405170203.GA542@rover.bates-haus.org>
References:  <5497-Fri05Apr2002113432+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk> <20020405170203.GA542@rover.bates-haus.org>
Message-ID: <20020405170425.GB13495@redhat.com>

On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:02:04PM -0500, Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote:
>Thanks for taking the time to put these together; I even have a suggestion!
>
>I agree that a plain "CX" doesn't really convey Cygwin/XFree86; but the
>Cygwin logo ( http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/cygwin-icon.gif )
>combined with the X logo ( generally available in
>/usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/xlogo64 ) _would_ be clear.

Didn't someone post a really cool 3-d version of the cygwin icon + X a
couple of weeks ago?

cgf


From nik@bates-haus.org  Fri Apr  5 09:13:00 2002
From: nik@bates-haus.org (Nikolaus Bates-Haus)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 09:13:00 -0000
Subject: cx-logos
In-Reply-To: <20020405170425.GB13495@redhat.com>
References:  <5497-Fri05Apr2002113432+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk> <20020405170203.GA542@rover.bates-haus.org> <20020405170425.GB13495@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20020405171336.GA692@rover.bates-haus.org>

You're right. I missed the message when it came through;
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00234.html

Logo by Tucker McLean; I like it.

-nik

On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:04:25PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:02:04PM -0500, Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote:
> >Thanks for taking the time to put these together; I even have a suggestion!
> >
> >I agree that a plain "CX" doesn't really convey Cygwin/XFree86; but the
> >Cygwin logo ( http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/cygwin-icon.gif )
> >combined with the X logo ( generally available in
> >/usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/xlogo64 ) _would_ be clear.
> 
> Didn't someone post a really cool 3-d version of the cygwin icon + X a
> couple of weeks ago?
> 
> cgf


From starksb@ebi.ac.uk  Fri Apr  5 09:24:00 2002
From: starksb@ebi.ac.uk (David Starks-Browning)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 09:24:00 -0000
Subject: cx-logos
In-Reply-To: <20020405171336.GA692@rover.bates-haus.org>
References: 
	<5497-Fri05Apr2002113432+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk>
	<20020405170203.GA542@rover.bates-haus.org>
	<20020405170425.GB13495@redhat.com>
	<20020405171336.GA692@rover.bates-haus.org>
Message-ID: <2052-Fri05Apr2002172418+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk>

On Friday 5 Apr 02, Nikolaus Bates-Haus writes:
> You're right. I missed the message when it came through;
> http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00234.html
> 
> Logo by Tucker McLean; I like it.

Yes, this one is very good IMO.

David


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr  5 10:31:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 10:31:00 -0000
Subject: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem
Message-ID: 

I recently stumbled across a message you wrote way back in March 2001:
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200103/msg00082.html

I notice that you say that cygwin.cf shouldn't be defining __STDC__ in
StandardDefines.  I can see that linux.cf and darwin.cf do not define
__STDC__ in StandardDefines, but I don't know why we should not be defining
it either.

A quick and explanation would get this problem quickly remedied (I like to
do things correctly, so I'd like to fix this problem).

Thanks,

Harold


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Fri Apr  5 10:51:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 10:51:00 -0000
Subject: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem
In-Reply-To: ; from huntharo@msu.edu on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 01:31:48 -0500
References: 
Message-ID: <20020405195141.B27469@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 01:31:48 -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
> I recently stumbled across a message you wrote way back in March 2001:
> http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200103/msg00082.html
> 
> I notice that you say that cygwin.cf shouldn't be defining __STDC__ in
> StandardDefines.  I can see that linux.cf and darwin.cf do not define
> __STDC__ in StandardDefines, but I don't know why we should not be defining
> it either.
> 
> A quick and explanation would get this problem quickly remedied (I like to
> do things correctly, so I'd like to fix this problem).
> 
Good point.

The compiler should define __STDC__ depending on the flags passed to it.

Alan.


From cgf@redhat.com  Fri Apr  5 11:07:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 11:07:00 -0000
Subject: cx-logos
In-Reply-To: <20020405171336.GA692@rover.bates-haus.org>
References:  <5497-Fri05Apr2002113432+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk> <20020405170203.GA542@rover.bates-haus.org> <20020405170425.GB13495@redhat.com> <20020405171336.GA692@rover.bates-haus.org>
Message-ID: <20020405190727.GA15346@redhat.com>

On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:13:37PM -0500, Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote:
>You're right. I missed the message when it came through;
>http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00234.html
>
>Logo by Tucker McLean; I like it.

Me too.  A lot.  I don't know if Tucker is still listen, but I'm wondering
if he would like to send just the cygwin logo part.  I'd like to use it for
the cygwin stuff.

In fact, I'd like to use it for Cygwin Setup.

cgf

>On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:04:25PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:02:04PM -0500, Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote:
>> >Thanks for taking the time to put these together; I even have a suggestion!
>> >
>> >I agree that a plain "CX" doesn't really convey Cygwin/XFree86; but the
>> >Cygwin logo ( http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/cygwin-icon.gif )
>> >combined with the X logo ( generally available in
>> >/usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/xlogo64 ) _would_ be clear.
>> 
>> Didn't someone post a really cool 3-d version of the cygwin icon + X a
>> couple of weeks ago?
>> 
>> cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr  5 11:17:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 11:17:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem
Message-ID: 

Here is what Paul had to say.  Put together with what Alan said it sounds
like __STDC__ will be coming out of StandardDefines.

Alan, do you want to commit this directly, or would you like me to submit a
patch?

Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Stodghill [mailto:stodghil@cs.cornell.edu]
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:53 PM
To: Harold Hunt
Subject: RE: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem


It's been over a year, but I believe that my reasoning was as follows,

I guess it is not technically a bug. However, the C standard (or at least
the c9x draft that I have) says that __STDC__ is a predefined implementation
specific macro. The GCC manual discusses how __STDC__ is set depending upon
the use of the -traditional flag. I don't believe that it makes sense to set
or unset __STDC__ either from the command line or using preprocessor
directives.

Hope this helps.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:32 PM
> To: Paul Stodghill
> Cc: cygx
> Subject: RE: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem
>
>
> I recently stumbled across a message you wrote way back in March 2001:
> http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200103/msg00082.html
>
> I notice that you say that cygwin.cf shouldn't be defining __STDC__ in
> StandardDefines.  I can see that linux.cf and darwin.cf do not define
> __STDC__ in StandardDefines, but I don't know why we should
> not be defining
> it either.
>
> A quick and explanation would get this problem quickly
> remedied (I like to
> do things correctly, so I'd like to fix this problem).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Harold
>
>


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Fri Apr  5 11:31:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 11:31:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem
In-Reply-To: ; from huntharo@msu.edu on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 02:17:29 -0500
References: 
Message-ID: <20020405203119.C27469@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

I can remove it - no problem.

Have you tried building the tree without it first though ?

Alan.

On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 02:17:29 -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
> Here is what Paul had to say.  Put together with what Alan said it sounds
> like __STDC__ will be coming out of StandardDefines.
> 
> Alan, do you want to commit this directly, or would you like me to submit a
> patch?
> 
> Harold
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Stodghill [mailto:stodghil@cs.cornell.edu]
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:53 PM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Subject: RE: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem
> 
> 
> It's been over a year, but I believe that my reasoning was as follows,
> 
> I guess it is not technically a bug. However, the C standard (or at least
> the c9x draft that I have) says that __STDC__ is a predefined implementation
> specific macro. The GCC manual discusses how __STDC__ is set depending upon
> the use of the -traditional flag. I don't believe that it makes sense to set
> or unset __STDC__ either from the command line or using preprocessor
> directives.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
> > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:32 PM
> > To: Paul Stodghill
> > Cc: cygx
> > Subject: RE: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem
> >
> >
> > I recently stumbled across a message you wrote way back in March 2001:
> > http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200103/msg00082.html
> >
> > I notice that you say that cygwin.cf shouldn't be defining __STDC__ in
> > StandardDefines.  I can see that linux.cf and darwin.cf do not define
> > __STDC__ in StandardDefines, but I don't know why we should
> > not be defining
> > it either.
> >
> > A quick and explanation would get this problem quickly
> > remedied (I like to
> > do things correctly, so I'd like to fix this problem).
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Harold
> >
> >


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr  5 14:31:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 14:31:00 -0000
Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
In-Reply-To: <000701c1dcb6$292d7c90$2153b80a@gooshy>
Message-ID: 

Scott,

I couldn't resist installing KDE3, so I did.  I didn't have any problems.  I
suspect that something went wrong during installation of KDE3 on your
machine.

Here is a screenshot:
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/screenshots/cygwin-xfree86-remote-kde3.png

I added that shot to the screenshots page:

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/screenshots/

I hope you get the problem figured out,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Scott Alexander
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:26 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
>
>
> Hi,
>
> My server has just been upgraded to kde 3.0 running redhat 7.2.  I use =
> cygwin with xfree86 to connect to this server using
>
> x -query 
>
> I have been doing this for a while with kde 2.2.2 with no problems.  =
> However when i connect to it now with kde 3 my screen has no icons or =
> icons on the kicker bar at the bottom. =20
>
> Does anyone know of this problem and a solution for it.
>
> My machine runs w2k with up 2 date cygwin and xfree86.
>
> Cheers
>
> Scott Alexander
>


From mshley@csee.wvu.edu  Fri Apr  5 14:39:00 2002
From: mshley@csee.wvu.edu (Marc)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 14:39:00 -0000
Subject: Log file for Win2k/Remote Login Screen 
References: 
Message-ID: <001f01c1dcf2$5111c540$0100a8c0@mgtnwv.adelphia.net>

Just a recap, I wasn't getting my remote login window when grabbing a
display from a machine running xdm stuff..

Turns out my installation was ok, but there was an old DNS entry associated
with my IP address and it must have been trying some funky reverse look up
stuff before giving me my display.  I changed the IP to one with no DNS
entry and everything is fine now.

I need to figure out how to tunnel these remote displays through ssh or
another type of encryption, but I don't see any possibilities.  I don't like
sending my password in the clear via xdmcp.  Anyone working with this?

Thanks!
Marc


----- Original Message -----
From: Harold Hunt 
To: Marc ; 
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 1:41 AM
Subject: RE: Log file for Win2k/Remote Login Screen


> Marc,
>
> You're right, there are no errors in the log file.
>
> What sort of machine are you trying to connect to?  Are you using a
command
> line as described in the User's Guide?
>
> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html
>
> Can you ping the remote machines in question?  Are they connected via
> ethernet or over a cable-modem or telephone line?  How do you know that
they
> are "known-good", have you used Exceed or X-Win32 or some such X Server to
> connect to those machines?
>





From tae.lee@attws.com  Fri Apr  5 15:08:00 2002
From: tae.lee@attws.com (Lee, Tae)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 15:08:00 -0000
Subject: Hi, I have question on cygwin configuration.
Message-ID: <8303A3EE6BF6D411A74300D0B7DF75F3059A4832@wa-msg10.entp.attws.com>

I have created a .profile file with the following lines:
Export PS1='$:$:>'

To see the working directory in my prompt, but it does now work and it
displays $:$:> as prompt.

How can I make it to work?

I have Windows 2000.  I don't if that makes difference..

Thanks!

Tae.


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr  5 15:27:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 15:27:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem
In-Reply-To: <20020405203119.C27469@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: 

Alan,

Yup.  I just built it with no problems.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Alan Hourihane
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 2:31 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: FW: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem
>
>
> I can remove it - no problem.
>
> Have you tried building the tree without it first though ?
>
> Alan.
>
> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 02:17:29 -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
> > Here is what Paul had to say.  Put together with what Alan said
> it sounds
> > like __STDC__ will be coming out of StandardDefines.
> >
> > Alan, do you want to commit this directly, or would you like me
> to submit a
> > patch?
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Stodghill [mailto:stodghil@cs.cornell.edu]
> > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:53 PM
> > To: Harold Hunt
> > Subject: RE: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem
> >
> >
> > It's been over a year, but I believe that my reasoning was as follows,
> >
> > I guess it is not technically a bug. However, the C standard
> (or at least
> > the c9x draft that I have) says that __STDC__ is a predefined
> implementation
> > specific macro. The GCC manual discusses how __STDC__ is set
> depending upon
> > the use of the -traditional flag. I don't believe that it makes
> sense to set
> > or unset __STDC__ either from the command line or using preprocessor
> > directives.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
> > > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:32 PM
> > > To: Paul Stodghill
> > > Cc: cygx
> > > Subject: RE: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem
> > >
> > >
> > > I recently stumbled across a message you wrote way back in March 2001:
> > > http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200103/msg00082.html
> > >
> > > I notice that you say that cygwin.cf shouldn't be defining __STDC__ in
> > > StandardDefines.  I can see that linux.cf and darwin.cf do not define
> > > __STDC__ in StandardDefines, but I don't know why we should
> > > not be defining
> > > it either.
> > >
> > > A quick and explanation would get this problem quickly
> > > remedied (I like to
> > > do things correctly, so I'd like to fix this problem).
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > >


From iburrell@znark.com  Fri Apr  5 17:05:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 17:05:00 -0000
Subject: Log file for Win2k/Remote Login Screen
References:  <001f01c1dcf2$5111c540$0100a8c0@mgtnwv.adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <3CAE49E8.4030907@znark.com>

Marc wrote:
> Just a recap, I wasn't getting my remote login window when grabbing a
> display from a machine running xdm stuff..
> 
> Turns out my installation was ok, but there was an old DNS entry associated
> with my IP address and it must have been trying some funky reverse look up
> stuff before giving me my display.  I changed the IP to one with no DNS
> entry and everything is fine now.
> 
> I need to figure out how to tunnel these remote displays through ssh or
> another type of encryption, but I don't see any possibilities.  I don't like
> sending my password in the clear via xdmcp.  Anyone working with this?
> 

According to the Linux XDMCP howto, it isn't possible to forward XDMCP 
over SSH because XDMCP uses UDP.

You could ssh to the remote system with X forwarding and start the 
session manually. The X server would be started without any clients or 
window manager; you might have to adjust authorization to allow the 
remote machine to connect.

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@stanfordalumni.org
http://www.znark.com/


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr  5 17:14:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 17:14:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 logged into KDE3 causes strange Cygwin error
Message-ID: 

This is the first time I have every seen anything like this in
Cygwin/XFree86.

I just installed KDE3 on my Linux box and when I login via XDMCP and run
Konsole I get this error message in Windows:

---------------------------
Error
---------------------------
Failed assertion
	fds_on_hold != NULL
at line 643 of file
/cygnus/netrel/src/cygwin-1.3.10-1/winsup/cygwin/dtable.cc
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------


So far this has happened only when I launch Konsole.  Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't
crash when this happens, but things seem to get sketchy after it happens a
few times.

Any ideas?

Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr  5 17:22:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 17:22:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 logged into KDE3 causes strange Cygwin error
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Oh yeah, by "sketchy" I meant that after it happens a few times and I switch
the focus away from Cygwin/XFree86 two things happen:

1) Cygwin/XFree86 freezes solid.

2) The Windows mouse cursor disappears and the Windows mouse doesn't work
until I reboot.  The mouse doesn't even start to work again when you press
Ctrl+Alt+Del and get the Windows Security box that usually works perfectly
even when programs have crashed.

Yeah... that's pretty sketchy.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 8:15 PM
> To: cygx
> Cc: cygwin
> Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 logged into KDE3 causes strange Cygwin error
>
>
> This is the first time I have every seen anything like this in
> Cygwin/XFree86.
>
> I just installed KDE3 on my Linux box and when I login via XDMCP and run
> Konsole I get this error message in Windows:
>
> ---------------------------
> Error
> ---------------------------
> Failed assertion
> 	fds_on_hold != NULL
> at line 643 of file
> /cygnus/netrel/src/cygwin-1.3.10-1/winsup/cygwin/dtable.cc
> ---------------------------
> OK
> ---------------------------
>
>
> So far this has happened only when I launch Konsole.
> Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't
> crash when this happens, but things seem to get sketchy after it happens a
> few times.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Harold
>


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From cgf@redhat.com  Fri Apr  5 22:32:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 22:32:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin/xfree86 logged into KDE3 causes strange cygwin error
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020406063233.GF12535@redhat.com>

On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 08:14:44PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
>This is the first time I have every seen anything like this in
>Cygwin/XFree86.
>
>I just installed KDE3 on my Linux box and when I login via XDMCP and run
>Konsole I get this error message in Windows:
>
>---------------------------
>Error
>---------------------------
>Failed assertion
>	fds_on_hold != NULL
>at line 643 of file
>/cygnus/netrel/src/cygwin-1.3.10-1/winsup/cygwin/dtable.cc
>---------------------------
>OK
>---------------------------
>
>
>So far this has happened only when I launch Konsole.  Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't
>crash when this happens, but things seem to get sketchy after it happens a
>few times.
>
>Any ideas?

It's coming from vfork.  Something's stomping on memory that is supposed
to hold a copy of the fd table.

cgf


From cgf@redhat.com  Fri Apr  5 22:39:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 22:39:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin/xfree86 logged into KDE3 causes strange cygwin error
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
Message-ID: <20020406064002.GG12535@redhat.com>

On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 08:22:26PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
>Oh yeah, by "sketchy" I meant that after it happens a few times and I
>switch the focus away from Cygwin/XFree86 two things happen:
>
>1) Cygwin/XFree86 freezes solid.
>
>2) The Windows mouse cursor disappears and the Windows mouse doesn't
>work until I reboot.  The mouse doesn't even start to work again when
>you press Ctrl+Alt+Del and get the Windows Security box that usually
>works perfectly even when programs have crashed.
>
>Yeah...  that's pretty sketchy.

It sounds like typical memory overwrite problems.  I have never
seen that error show up in any other application.  I thought I had actually
turned off assertions in the released version of cygwin.  Guess I was
mistaken.

There are only two popular users of vfork that I'm aware of: sh and make.
It's possible that their needs are simple enough that they're not
triggering a cygwin bug that kde is triggering.  It's also possible that
kde is just doing a plain old fashioned overwriting of memory.

It should be fairly simple to figure out what's stomping on the memory
but it will have to (obviously?) be done by someone who has kde and
feels up to debugging the cygwin DLL.  Just watching what happens to
cygheap->fdtab.fds_on_hold during a vfork should pinpoint it pretty
quickly.

cgf


From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Sat Apr  6 01:28:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 01:28:00 -0000
Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
In-Reply-To: <200204051648.g35GmEx48722@pilot16.cl.msu.edu>
Message-ID: <002801c1dd4d$56e9aea0$066007d5@BRAMSCHE>


> I know you say that Cygwin/XFree86 is up-to-date,
> but are you running
> Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0?  You can check by running
> 'xdpyinfo' in a local
> Cygwin/XFree86 session or in a terminal when you
> are logged into another
> machine via XDMCP.
qt3, which is used by kde3, does not work with the xfree
4.1.x server, so I can confirm, that an update to xfree
4.2.0 is absolutly nesessary.

Ralf


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Sat Apr  6 04:31:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 04:31:00 -0000
Subject: Building from  CVS
Message-ID: 

Hi,
	I tried to build from CVS on
http://sourceforge.net/projects/xoncygwin using the instructions from
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/prog-build-native.html. I've attached
the bzip2'd log file from a standard build.. 

The summary is that it's failing to build the server binaries. All the
.o compilations are showing a warning on alloca redefinition,  but not
actual errors are shown.

Any thoughts?

Rob
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Sat Apr  6 04:49:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 04:49:00 -0000
Subject: Building from  CVS
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Rob,

We forgot to tell you that you have to pull the windows-1-branch, which has
that fix.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Robert Collins
> Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 7:31 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Building from CVS
>
>
> Hi,
> 	I tried to build from CVS on
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/xoncygwin using the instructions from
> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/prog-build-native.html. I've attached
> the bzip2'd log file from a standard build..
>
> The summary is that it's failing to build the server binaries. All the
> .o compilations are showing a warning on alloca redefinition,  but not
> actual errors are shown.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Rob
>


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Sat Apr  6 05:15:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 05:15:00 -0000
Subject: Building from  CVS
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 10:49 PM
> To: Robert Collins; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: Building from CVS
> 
> 
> Rob,
> 
> We forgot to tell you that you have to pull the 
> windows-1-branch, which has that fix.

Thanks Harold, I assume it also has the GDI engine improvements, which
is what I intend to have a quick eyeball at?

Rob


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Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 05:39:00 -0000
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From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Sat Apr  6 06:04:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 06:04:00 -0000
Subject: Hi, I have question on cygwin configuration.
In-Reply-To: <8303A3EE6BF6D411A74300D0B7DF75F3059A4832@wa-msg10.entp.attws.com>
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Lee, Tae wrote:

> I have created a .profile file with the following lines:
> Export PS1='$:$:>'

this should be (at least for bash)
    export PS1='\h:\w:>'

bye
        ago
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Sat Apr  6 11:45:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt)
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 11:45:00 -0000
Subject: Building from  CVS
Message-ID: <200204061945.g36JjbP64788@pilot20.cl.msu.edu>

That is correct.

Harold

Robert Collins  said:

> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> > Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 10:49 PM
> > To: Robert Collins; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: RE: Building from CVS
> > 
> > 
> > Rob,
> > 
> > We forgot to tell you that you have to pull the 
> > windows-1-branch, which has that fix.
> 
> Thanks Harold, I assume it also has the GDI engine improvements, which
> is what I intend to have a quick eyeball at?
> 
> Rob
> 




From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Sat Apr  6 14:56:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 14:56:00 -0000
Subject: Building from  CVS
Message-ID: 

Harold...
	We're getting places. 

Found this this time round:

make[5]: *** No rule to make target `winrop.o', needed by `libXwin.a'

I forgot to re-run the recursive link maker after updating the tag.

I'm starting another run now - thanks for the help so far.

Rob

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold L Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 5:46 AM
> To: Robert Collins; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: Building from CVS
> 
> 
> That is correct.
> 
> Harold
> 
> Robert Collins  said:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 10:49 PM
> > > To: Robert Collins; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: RE: Building from CVS
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Rob,
> > > 
> > > We forgot to tell you that you have to pull the
> > > windows-1-branch, which has that fix.
> > 
> > Thanks Harold, I assume it also has the GDI engine 
> improvements, which 
> > is what I intend to have a quick eyeball at?
> > 
> > Rob
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 


From tucker@noodleroni.com  Sat Apr  6 18:45:00 2002
From: tucker@noodleroni.com (Tucker McLean)
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 18:45:00 -0000
Subject: cx-logos
References:  <5497-Fri05Apr2002113432+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk> <20020405170203.GA542@rover.bates-haus.org> <20020405170425.GB13495@redhat.com> <20020405171336.GA692@rover.bates-haus.org> <20020405190727.GA15346@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3CAFB266.6090804@noodleroni.com>

Hey,

I sure as heck am listening! I got a big ego trip when I read this 
message. The GIMP .xcf file is attached to this message.

Tucker

PS: Keep me updated as I am not subscribed to the mailing list

Christopher Faylor wrote:

>On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:13:37PM -0500, Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote:
>
>>You're right. I missed the message when it came through;
>>http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00234.html
>>
>>Logo by Tucker McLean; I like it.
>>
>
>Me too.  A lot.  I don't know if Tucker is still listen, but I'm wondering
>if he would like to send just the cygwin logo part.  I'd like to use it for
>the cygwin stuff.
>
>In fact, I'd like to use it for Cygwin Setup.
>
>cgf
>
>>On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:04:25PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:02:04PM -0500, Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thanks for taking the time to put these together; I even have a suggestion!
>>>>
>>>>I agree that a plain "CX" doesn't really convey Cygwin/XFree86; but the
>>>>Cygwin logo ( http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/cygwin-icon.gif )
>>>>combined with the X logo ( generally available in
>>>>/usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/xlogo64 ) _would_ be clear.
>>>>
>>>Didn't someone post a really cool 3-d version of the cygwin icon + X a
>>>couple of weeks ago?
>>>
>>>cgf
>>>
>

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From cgf@redhat.com  Sat Apr  6 19:48:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 19:48:00 -0000
Subject: cx-logos
In-Reply-To: <3CAFB266.6090804@noodleroni.com>
References:  <5497-Fri05Apr2002113432+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk> <20020405170203.GA542@rover.bates-haus.org> <20020405170425.GB13495@redhat.com> <20020405171336.GA692@rover.bates-haus.org> <20020405190727.GA15346@redhat.com> <3CAFB266.6090804@noodleroni.com>
Message-ID: <20020407034853.GA29235@redhat.com>

On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 06:43:50PM -0800, Tucker McLean wrote:
>Hey,
>
>I sure as heck am listening! I got a big ego trip when I read this 
>message. The GIMP .xcf file is attached to this message.

This is the dual logo, right?  Could you separate out just the Cygwin
part?

cgf


From tucker@noodleroni.com  Sat Apr  6 20:09:00 2002
From: tucker@noodleroni.com (Tucker McLean)
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 20:09:00 -0000
Subject: cx-logos
References:  <5497-Fri05Apr2002113432+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk> <20020405170203.GA542@rover.bates-haus.org> <20020405170425.GB13495@redhat.com> <20020405171336.GA692@rover.bates-haus.org> <20020405190727.GA15346@redhat.com> <3CAFB266.6090804@noodleroni.com> <20020407034853.GA29235@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3CAFC604.5040109@noodleroni.com>

Hi,

This is a GIMP .xcf file, if you want just the Cygwin part, just use 
that set of layers. If you would like me to separate them, I'll be happy 
to do that.

Tucker

Christopher Faylor wrote:

>On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 06:43:50PM -0800, Tucker McLean wrote:
>
>>Hey,
>>
>>I sure as heck am listening! I got a big ego trip when I read this 
>>message. The GIMP .xcf file is attached to this message.
>>
>
>This is the dual logo, right?  Could you separate out just the Cygwin
>part?
>
>cgf
>

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From eugenius@dingoblue.net.au  Sat Apr  6 23:07:00 2002
From: eugenius@dingoblue.net.au (Eugene Rosenzweig)
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 23:07:00 -0000
Subject: Missing terminfo data in XFree86 4.2.0
References: 
Message-ID: <036801c1de02$d4206c00$0300a8c0@bluebox>

Good observation. I never really missed the xterm entries, but now that you
mentioned it, they are not there. I noticed it also because of the handy
script from Alan Dobkin (re ncftp missing libs). The original files are in
terminfo-5.2-1 package.
The setup text (in the Xinstall.sh) states that new termcap entries are
needed to take advantage of some new features of xterm, whatever they are.
There is a way to generate most of those entries from the
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/etc/xterm.termcap:

captoinfo /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/etc/xterm.termcap
"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/etc/xterm.terminfo", line 90, terminal 'xterm-color':
enter_alt_charset_mode but no acs_chars
"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/etc/xterm.terminfo", line 90, terminal 'xterm-color':
exit_alt_charset_mode but no acs_chars
"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/etc/xterm.terminfo", line 144, terminal 'xterm-sco':
enter_alt_charset_mode but no acs_chars
"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/etc/xterm.terminfo", line 144, terminal 'xterm-sco':
exit_alt_charset_mode but no acs_chars

These will generate all missing files except for xtermm. Comparing these
files to their backed up namesakes shows that they are different. Could
these be the files that were intended to be generated originally by setup? I
do not know anything about mechanics of xterminfo to be able to go beyond
the mechanical regeneration of the files. I am not even sure what the errors
mean. Something to do with acsc@ part of the definition which man terminfo
mentiones but even then I am not sure what the manpage is talking about.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 12:48 AM
Subject: Missing terminfo data in XFree86 4.2.0


> Hi
>
> I ran into the following problem with the current XFree86 distribution,
but
> could not find any mention of any solution here or elsewhere.
>
> SYMPTOMS
> --------
> * "vt102" terminal setting (TERM) in xterm windows instead of "xterm"
> * "WARNING: terminal is not fully functional" error messages from /bin/les
s
> * Missing /usr/share/terminfo/x/xterm and other terminfo data files
>
> CAUSE
> -----
> 1. The current XFree86 for Cygwin distribution is missing the file
>    xterm.terminfo (but not xterm.termcap) in Xlib.tgz.  (However this is
>    not true for other distributions, eg FreeBSD.)  It is missing in the
>    distribution available from the Cygwin mirrors and the distribution
>    available directly from XFree86.
> 2. After unpacking the distribution files, the script Xinstall.sh asks the
>    user whether to update the terminfo entries.  The default is no, but
the
>    blurb notes that new features will be unavailable otherwise.
>
> If the user says yes:
> 3. The script moves a number of existing terminfo entries to *.bak
> 4. The script tries to run tic on /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/etc/xterm.terminfo to
>    replace them
> 5. Since this file is not present, tic fails
> 6. The following terminfo files are subsequently effectively missing:
xterm,
>    xterms, xterm-24, xterm-vi, xterm-65, xterm-bold, xtermm, xterm-boldso,
>    xterm-ic, xterm-r6, xterm-old, xterm-r5, vs100
>
> INTERIM SOLUTIONS
> -----------------
> During install (pre-emptive):
> * Do not elect to update terminfo entries
> After install (treatment):
> * Setting the TERM variable to another value such as cygwin or ansi is
>   a temporary workaround
> * Moving the renamed files back to their original names reverses the
>   damage ("mv xterm.bak xterm" etc)
>
> DISTRIBUTION FIX?
> -----------------
> Include the file or change the installation script
>
> QUESTIONS
> ---------
> * Is there some reason xterm.terminfo is missing, or is this an error?
> * Is it possible to use e.g. the FreeBSD distribution's xterm.terminfo
file?
> * Is it advised against updating the terminfo data?
> * If so, then what about updating termcap entries (suggested by
Xinstall.h)?
> * What is lost by not using the new terminfo data?
>
> Thanks
> Michael
>


From eugenius@dingoblue.net.au  Sat Apr  6 23:33:00 2002
From: eugenius@dingoblue.net.au (Eugene Rosenzweig)
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 23:33:00 -0000
Subject: cx-logos
References:  <5497-Fri05Apr2002113432+0000-starksb@ebi.ac.uk> <20020405170203.GA542@rover.bates-haus.org> <20020405170425.GB13495@redhat.com> <20020405171336.GA692@rover.bates-haus.org>
Message-ID: <042901c1de06$8ff14b90$0300a8c0@bluebox>

It is a good point that maybe just CX is not enough and it should be Cygwin
+ X logos but nupur's logo is also much easier on the eye than Chris's.
Vivid red and green on a bright blue background - that is violent on the
eyes. Long ago in the time of eight-color displays there were no other
options but now we have more range to work with. Maybe some sort of
compromise between the two? Nupur's color scheme was simple but, I thought,
good.



From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Sun Apr  7 00:03:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 00:03:00 -0000
Subject: X11/Xlib.h not found?
Message-ID: 

Does the build recipe expect the X11 headers to be installed? The
following is a sample error (there are many similar ones) indicating
that X11/Xlib.h is not found, and I not thate /usr/X11R6/include is in
the include path. I don't have X currently installed.

If it needs those headers, and installing them is a safe bet, then I'm
happy to do that. It does seem strange to me that it looks at system
headers though..


Rob



====

rm -f wincutpaste.o
gcc -c -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -Wpointer-arith    -I.
-I../../../../expor
ts/include/X11 -I../../../../include/fonts
-I../../../../programs/Xserve
r/fb -I../../../../programs/Xserver/mi
-I../../../../programs/Xserver/miext/
shadow -I../../../../programs/Xserver/miext/layer
-I../../../../program
s/Xserver/include -I../../../../programs/Xserver/os
-I../../../../in
clude/extensions -I../../../../exports/include/X11
-I../../../../program
s/Xserver/render -I../../../../programs/Xserver/randr  -I../../../..
-I../../../
../exports/include -I/usr/X11R6/include  -D__i386__
-DWIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN -DX_LO
CALE -D_X86_ -D__STDC__ -DNO_TCP_H -D__CYGWIN__ -D_XOPEN_SOURCE
-D_POSIX_C_SOURC
E=199309L -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -DNO_ALLOCA -DSHAPE
-DXINPU
T -DXKB -DLBX -DXAPPGROUP -DXCSECURITY -DTOGCUP  -DXF86BIGFONT
-DRENDER -DR
ANDR -DGCCUSESGAS -DAVOID_GLYPHBLT -DPIXPRIV -DSINGLEDEPTH
-DXvExtension  -DXFr
ee86Server -DXF86VIDMODE -DXvMCExtension
-DX_BYTE_ORDER=X_LITTLE_ENDIAN -DNDE
BUG  -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO   -DAVOID_GLYPHBLT -DPIXPRIV
-DSINGLEDEPTH  -D
XvExtension  -DXFree86Server -DXF86VIDMODE -DXvMCExtension
-DX_BYTE_ORDER=X_L
ITTLE_ENDIAN -DDDXTIME -DFD_SETSIZE=256 -DDDXOSINIT -DDDXOSVERRORF
-DDDXOSFATALE
RROR  -DHAS_MMAP -UXFree86LOADER -UXF86DRI   wincutpaste.c
wincutpaste.c:50: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
make[5]: *** [wincutpaste.o] Error 1


From saunup@hotmail.com  Sun Apr  7 00:24:00 2002
From: saunup@hotmail.com (Nupur Saurabh)
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 00:24:00 -0000
Subject: cx-logos
References: <20020405120108.61875.qmail@web20805.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

hi all,
i made some changes as per suggestion.

these are modified from the previous logo4.jpg.
i made, with 'C' with arrow as cygwin banner has.

http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_6.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_7.jpg

these are logo with cygwin c with arrow and 'X' as in www.x.org.

http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_8.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_9.jpg

But Brian i'm not sure about copyright issue.

suggestion and comments are welcome.

nupur

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Genisio" 
To: "Alexander Gottwald" ;
"Saurabh Nupur" 
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 4:01 AM
Subject: Re: cx-logos


> Yes, I like this one the best as well.  I believe it is very important to
> convey that this is a port of the XFree86 software.  This logo does it
well
> with it's "86".  Might I suggest also incorporating some identification of
> Cygwin?  There are two logos I have seen (www.cygwin.com), the one that
looks
> like a copyright symbol with an arrow, and the BlackAndGreen, ugly Cygwin
icon.
>  Possibly, you can incorporate one of those feels?
>
> Also, have you seen the X logo? (Open the X server, and run xlogo.exe)
This is
> kind of a standard X-windows protocol logo.  You might want to incorporate
that
> somehow.
>
> Just my 2 cents,
> Brian
>
> --- Alexander Gottwald 
wrote:
> > On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Saurabh Nupur wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_4.jpg
> >
> > I like this one.
> >
> > bye
> > ago
> > --
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> >  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
> >  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017
> >
>
>
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From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Sun Apr  7 05:10:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 05:10:00 -0000
Subject: Missing file for libexpat.dll
Message-ID: 

Hi,

The file expat-def.cpp which is needed for building libexpat.dll on
cygwin is missing. I attached a file with all exports from the 
object files.

2002-04-07  Alexander Gottwald 

    * expat-def.cpp (new): Export definitions for building libexpat.dll
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From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 05:24:00 -0000
Subject: Missing file for libfontconfig.dll
Message-ID: 

Hi,

The file fontconfig-def.cpp which is needed for building libfontconfig.dll 
on cygwin is missing. I attached a file with all exports from the 
object files.

2002-04-07  Alexander Gottwald 

    * fontconfig-def.cpp (new): Export definitions for building 
      libfontconfig.dll
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From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Sun Apr  7 07:18:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 07:18:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem
In-Reply-To: <20020405203119.C27469@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Alan Hourihane wrote:

> I can remove it - no problem.
> 
> Have you tried building the tree without it first though ?

I've removed the __STDC__ define a long time ago (shortly after gcc3.0
was out, which complained the redefine) and had no problems without it.

bye
    ago
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Apr  7 20:18:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 20:18:00 -0000
Subject: cx-logos
In-Reply-To: <3CAFB266.6090804@noodleroni.com>
Message-ID: 

Tucker,

It would be best if you didn't send 193 KB attachments to the entire mailing
list (I don't know how many people that is, but it could be a few hundred).

If you need to send a file to others, try to upload the file to a web site
or ftp site and post a link to the file in your message.  If you don't have
a web site or ftp site to do this with, email the file to me and I'll post
it to a site for you.

Thanks,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Tucker McLean
> Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 9:44 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: cx-logos
>
>
> Hey,
>
> I sure as heck am listening! I got a big ego trip when I read this
> message. The GIMP .xcf file is attached to this message.
>
> Tucker
>
> PS: Keep me updated as I am not subscribed to the mailing list
>
> Christopher Faylor wrote:
>
> >On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:13:37PM -0500, Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote:
> >
> >>You're right. I missed the message when it came through;
> >>http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00234.html
> >>
> >>Logo by Tucker McLean; I like it.
> >>
> >
> >Me too.  A lot.  I don't know if Tucker is still listen, but I'm
> wondering
> >if he would like to send just the cygwin logo part.  I'd like to
> use it for
> >the cygwin stuff.
> >
> >In fact, I'd like to use it for Cygwin Setup.
> >
> >cgf
> >
> >>On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:04:25PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:02:04PM -0500, Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Thanks for taking the time to put these together; I even have
> a suggestion!
> >>>>
> >>>>I agree that a plain "CX" doesn't really convey
> Cygwin/XFree86; but the
> >>>>Cygwin logo ( http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/cygwin-icon.gif )
> >>>>combined with the X logo ( generally available in
> >>>>/usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/xlogo64 ) _would_ be clear.
> >>>>
> >>>Didn't someone post a really cool 3-d version of the cygwin icon + X a
> >>>couple of weeks ago?
> >>>
> >>>cgf
> >>>
> >
>
> --
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>
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Apr  7 20:20:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 20:20:00 -0000
Subject: X11/Xlib.h not found?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Rob,

Yes, the cut down tree depends on the installed headers because building the
headers requires building the libraries, which the BuildServersOnly (or
something like that) flag does.  We only build the servers because it keeps
the builds quick.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Robert Collins
> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 4:04 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: X11/Xlib.h not found?
>
>
> Does the build recipe expect the X11 headers to be installed? The
> following is a sample error (there are many similar ones) indicating
> that X11/Xlib.h is not found, and I not thate /usr/X11R6/include is in
> the include path. I don't have X currently installed.
>
> If it needs those headers, and installing them is a safe bet, then I'm
> happy to do that. It does seem strange to me that it looks at system
> headers though..
>
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> ====
>
> rm -f wincutpaste.o
> gcc -c -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -Wpointer-arith    -I.
> -I../../../../expor
> ts/include/X11 -I../../../../include/fonts
> -I../../../../programs/Xserve
> r/fb -I../../../../programs/Xserver/mi
> -I../../../../programs/Xserver/miext/
> shadow -I../../../../programs/Xserver/miext/layer
> -I../../../../program
> s/Xserver/include -I../../../../programs/Xserver/os
> -I../../../../in
> clude/extensions -I../../../../exports/include/X11
> -I../../../../program
> s/Xserver/render -I../../../../programs/Xserver/randr  -I../../../..
> -I../../../
> ../exports/include -I/usr/X11R6/include  -D__i386__
> -DWIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN -DX_LO
> CALE -D_X86_ -D__STDC__ -DNO_TCP_H -D__CYGWIN__ -D_XOPEN_SOURCE
> -D_POSIX_C_SOURC
> E=199309L -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -DNO_ALLOCA -DSHAPE
> -DXINPU
> T -DXKB -DLBX -DXAPPGROUP -DXCSECURITY -DTOGCUP  -DXF86BIGFONT
> -DRENDER -DR
> ANDR -DGCCUSESGAS -DAVOID_GLYPHBLT -DPIXPRIV -DSINGLEDEPTH
> -DXvExtension  -DXFr
> ee86Server -DXF86VIDMODE -DXvMCExtension
> -DX_BYTE_ORDER=X_LITTLE_ENDIAN -DNDE
> BUG  -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO   -DAVOID_GLYPHBLT -DPIXPRIV
> -DSINGLEDEPTH  -D
> XvExtension  -DXFree86Server -DXF86VIDMODE -DXvMCExtension
> -DX_BYTE_ORDER=X_L
> ITTLE_ENDIAN -DDDXTIME -DFD_SETSIZE=256 -DDDXOSINIT -DDDXOSVERRORF
> -DDDXOSFATALE
> RROR  -DHAS_MMAP -UXFree86LOADER -UXF86DRI   wincutpaste.c
> wincutpaste.c:50: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
> make[5]: *** [wincutpaste.o] Error 1


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Apr  7 20:21:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 20:21:00 -0000
Subject: cx-logos
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Nupur,

I like these... keep it up.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Nupur Saurabh
> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 4:38 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Cc: Brian Genisio
> Subject: Re: cx-logos
> 
> 
> hi all,
> i made some changes as per suggestion.
> 
> these are modified from the previous logo4.jpg.
> i made, with 'C' with arrow as cygwin banner has.
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_6.jpg
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_7.jpg
> 
> these are logo with cygwin c with arrow and 'X' as in www.x.org.
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_8.jpg
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_9.jpg
> 
> But Brian i'm not sure about copyright issue.
> 
> suggestion and comments are welcome.
> 
> nupur
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Genisio" 
> To: "Alexander Gottwald" ;
> "Saurabh Nupur" 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 4:01 AM
> Subject: Re: cx-logos
> 
> 
> > Yes, I like this one the best as well.  I believe it is very 
> important to
> > convey that this is a port of the XFree86 software.  This logo does it
> well
> > with it's "86".  Might I suggest also incorporating some 
> identification of
> > Cygwin?  There are two logos I have seen (www.cygwin.com), the one that
> looks
> > like a copyright symbol with an arrow, and the BlackAndGreen, 
> ugly Cygwin
> icon.
> >  Possibly, you can incorporate one of those feels?
> >
> > Also, have you seen the X logo? (Open the X server, and run xlogo.exe)
> This is
> > kind of a standard X-windows protocol logo.  You might want to 
> incorporate
> that
> > somehow.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents,
> > Brian
> >
> > --- Alexander Gottwald 
> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Saurabh Nupur wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_4.jpg
> > >
> > > I like this one.
> > >
> > > bye
> > > ago
> > > --
> > >  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
> > >  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
> > >  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017
> > >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax
> > http://taxes.yahoo.com/
> >
> 


From cgf@redhat.com  Sun Apr  7 20:22:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 20:22:00 -0000
Subject: cx-logos
In-Reply-To: 
References: <3CAFB266.6090804@noodleroni.com> 
Message-ID: <20020408032249.GA2908@redhat.com>

On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 11:18:12PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>It would be best if you didn't send 193 KB attachments to the entire mailing
>list (I don't know how many people that is, but it could be a few hundred).

518, actually!  Wow.  That includes 122 who are subscribed to the digest.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Apr  7 20:22:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 20:22:00 -0000
Subject: cx-logos
In-Reply-To: <3CAFC604.5040109@noodleroni.com>
Message-ID: 

Tucker,

Oh yeah, I also like your work too.  Keep it up.

Hopefully we'll be able to get some new icons soon.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Tucker McLean
> Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 11:08 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: cx-logos
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This is a GIMP .xcf file, if you want just the Cygwin part, just use 
> that set of layers. If you would like me to separate them, I'll be happy 
> to do that.
> 
> Tucker
> 
> Christopher Faylor wrote:
> 
> >On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 06:43:50PM -0800, Tucker McLean wrote:
> >
> >>Hey,
> >>
> >>I sure as heck am listening! I got a big ego trip when I read this 
> >>message. The GIMP .xcf file is attached to this message.
> >>
> >
> >This is the dual logo, right?  Could you separate out just the Cygwin
> >part?
> >
> >cgf
> >
> 
> -- 
> Did you know that Democrats prefer Almond Joy?
> http://www.noodleroni.com/survey.html
> 
> Go to http://www.noodleroni.com/ for some free software and other
> miscellaneous madness. See you there!
> 
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> 
> 
> 


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Apr  7 20:25:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 20:25:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

My mouse problems were due to my mouse getting flaky at exactly the same
time as I tested the removal of the __STDC__ flag.  The mouse has since
completely given up the ghost, so I know that no problems were caused by
removing the __STDC__ flag.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Alexander Gottwald
> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 10:19 AM
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: FW: Patch to fix cygwin-xfree+gcc-2.95.3+autoconf problem
>
>
> On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Alan Hourihane wrote:
>
> > I can remove it - no problem.
> >
> > Have you tried building the tree without it first though ?
>
> I've removed the __STDC__ define a long time ago (shortly after gcc3.0
> was out, which complained the redefine) and had no problems without it.
>
> bye
>     ago
> --
>  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
>  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
>  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017
>  4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4
>


From tucker@noodleroni.com  Sun Apr  7 22:07:00 2002
From: tucker@noodleroni.com (Tucker McLean)
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 22:07:00 -0000
Subject: cx-logos
References: 
Message-ID: <3CB12525.6020300@noodleroni.com>

Sorry about the attachment, it could have been worse. I almost forgot to 
gzip it, and it would have been over 1 MB. Thank goodness I didn't 
forget. BTW, what kind of icons for which applications are you looking 
for? I'd be happy to do up some of those too. Also, which size and color 
depth?

Harold Hunt wrote:

>Tucker,
>
>It would be best if you didn't send 193 KB attachments to the entire mailing
>list (I don't know how many people that is, but it could be a few hundred).
>
>If you need to send a file to others, try to upload the file to a web site
>or ftp site and post a link to the file in your message.  If you don't have
>a web site or ftp site to do this with, email the file to me and I'll post
>it to a site for you.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Harold
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
>>[mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Tucker McLean
>>Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 9:44 PM
>>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>>Subject: Re: cx-logos
>>
>>
>>Hey,
>>
>>I sure as heck am listening! I got a big ego trip when I read this
>>message. The GIMP .xcf file is attached to this message.
>>
>>Tucker
>>
>>PS: Keep me updated as I am not subscribed to the mailing list
>>
>>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:13:37PM -0500, Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote:
>>>
>>>>You're right. I missed the message when it came through;
>>>>http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00234.html
>>>>
>>>>Logo by Tucker McLean; I like it.
>>>>
>>>Me too.  A lot.  I don't know if Tucker is still listen, but I'm
>>>
>>wondering
>>
>>>if he would like to send just the cygwin logo part.  I'd like to
>>>
>>use it for
>>
>>>the cygwin stuff.
>>>
>>>In fact, I'd like to use it for Cygwin Setup.
>>>
>>>cgf
>>>
>>>>On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:04:25PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:02:04PM -0500, Nikolaus Bates-Haus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for taking the time to put these together; I even have
>>>>>>
>>a suggestion!
>>
>>>>>>I agree that a plain "CX" doesn't really convey
>>>>>>
>>Cygwin/XFree86; but the
>>
>>>>>>Cygwin logo ( http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/cygwin-icon.gif )
>>>>>>combined with the X logo ( generally available in
>>>>>>/usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/xlogo64 ) _would_ be clear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Didn't someone post a really cool 3-d version of the cygwin icon + X a
>>>>>couple of weeks ago?
>>>>>
>>>>>cgf
>>>>>
>>--
>>Did you know that Democrats prefer Almond Joy?
>>http://www.noodleroni.com/survey.html
>>
>>Go to http://www.noodleroni.com/ for some free software and other
>>miscellaneous madness. See you there!
>>
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>>R-- tv+ b G- e-> h!
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>>
>>
>>
>
>

-- 
Did you know that Democrats prefer Almond Joy?
http://www.noodleroni.com/survey.html

Go to http://www.noodleroni.com/ for some free software and other
miscellaneous madness. See you there!

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From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Sun Apr  7 23:03:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 23:03:00 -0000
Subject: Native GDI
Message-ID: 

Just a question: how does X cope with region invalidate - say with the
Xnest engine? I'm wondering how the native GDI engine will handle having
regions invalidated by win32 apps in front of it, without an off-screen
buffer.

Rob


From edi@serbski-institut.de  Sun Apr  7 23:55:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 23:55:00 -0000
Subject: cx-logos
In-Reply-To: <20020405171336.GA692@rover.bates-haus.org>
References: <20020405170203.GA542@rover.bates-haus.org>
	<20020405170425.GB13495@redhat.com>
	<20020405171336.GA692@rover.bates-haus.org>
Message-ID: <20020408.085037.74722959.edi@serbski-institut.de>

From: nik@bates-haus.org (Nikolaus Bates-Haus)
Subject: Re: cx-logos
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 12:13:37 -0500

> http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-02/msg00234.html
> 
> Logo by Tucker McLean; I like it.

Yes, that's a nice one.


From edi@serbski-institut.de  Mon Apr  8 00:06:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 00:06:00 -0000
Subject: cx-logos
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020405120108.61875.qmail@web20805.mail.yahoo.com>
	
Message-ID: <20020408.090554.41664510.edi@serbski-institut.de>

From: "Nupur Saurabh" 
Subject: Re: cx-logos
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 00:38:21 -0800

> hi all,
> i made some changes as per suggestion.
> 
> these are modified from the previous logo4.jpg.
> i made, with 'C' with arrow as cygwin banner has.
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_6.jpg
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_7.jpg
> 
> these are logo with cygwin c with arrow and 'X' as in www.x.org.
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_8.jpg
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logo_9.jpg
> 

Hmmm, these are nice, too, I just find the c and the X
too small and the green background square too big and dominating
(it's even stressed by the thick border).

Cheers

Edi


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Mon Apr  8 01:04:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 01:04:00 -0000
Subject: Native GDI
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020408080447.GA1149@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:03:40 +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> Just a question: how does X cope with region invalidate - say with the
> Xnest engine? I'm wondering how the native GDI engine will handle having
> regions invalidated by win32 apps in front of it, without an off-screen
> buffer.
> 
I believe WM_PAINT is our friend here. Then we can issue the X calls
inside the server to repaint the region(s).

Alan.


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  8 01:07:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 01:07:00 -0000
Subject: Native GDI
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk] 
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 6:05 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: Native GDI
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:03:40 +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> > Just a question: how does X cope with region invalidate - 
> say with the 
> > Xnest engine? I'm wondering how the native GDI engine will handle 
> > having regions invalidated by win32 apps in front of it, without an 
> > off-screen buffer.
> > 
> I believe WM_PAINT is our friend here. Then we can issue the 
> X calls inside the server to repaint the region(s).

Yes, that's the mechanics of getting alerted... but unless we have a
backing store, we need to issue Expose events to the X clients (which is
a potential performance issue).

Rob


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  8 01:12:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 01:12:00 -0000
Subject: rootless mode
Message-ID: 

I've been thinking about rootless mode.

Here's  my current thoughts:

1) We create a real win32 window for each X window. 
2) We use SetWindowLong to store the X window pointer in the WIN32
struct, so that when a message arrives to that windowclass's WindowProc,
we can lookup the X window the message belongs to.
3) We use WindowPrivates to store the WIN32 related window HANDLE and
other gunk.

I don't know how we go about telling X it's rootless - Alan, I'm hoping
you can jump in here and say 'do X, Y and Z'.

Anyway, whilst I won't have time to be a significant contributor, I hope
to have a proof-of-concept patch against the Native GDI engine shortly.

Rob


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Mon Apr  8 01:16:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 01:16:00 -0000
Subject: Native GDI
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020408081627.GB1149@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 06:07:51 +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk] 
> > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 6:05 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: Native GDI
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:03:40 +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> > > Just a question: how does X cope with region invalidate - 
> > say with the 
> > > Xnest engine? I'm wondering how the native GDI engine will handle 
> > > having regions invalidated by win32 apps in front of it, without an 
> > > off-screen buffer.
> > > 
> > I believe WM_PAINT is our friend here. Then we can issue the 
> > X calls inside the server to repaint the region(s).
> 
> Yes, that's the mechanics of getting alerted... but unless we have a
> backing store, we need to issue Expose events to the X clients (which is
> a potential performance issue).
> 
Correct. At the moment I don't care about performance in the Native GDI
server. That'll come later. There are many bugs and unimplemented
functions to do first.

Alan.


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Mon Apr  8 01:21:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 01:21:00 -0000
Subject: rootless mode
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020408082104.GC1149@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 06:12:33 +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> I've been thinking about rootless mode.
> 
> Here's  my current thoughts:
> 
> 1) We create a real win32 window for each X window. 
> 2) We use SetWindowLong to store the X window pointer in the WIN32
> struct, so that when a message arrives to that windowclass's WindowProc,
> we can lookup the X window the message belongs to.
> 3) We use WindowPrivates to store the WIN32 related window HANDLE and
> other gunk.
> 
> I don't know how we go about telling X it's rootless - Alan, I'm hoping
> you can jump in here and say 'do X, Y and Z'.
> 
> Anyway, whilst I won't have time to be a significant contributor, I hope
> to have a proof-of-concept patch against the Native GDI engine shortly.
> 
Robert,

I agree with your above suggestions, but we are still a way off doing
anything 'rootless' yet. We need a fully functional native GDI server,
which it currently isn't and there's still many bugs. Again, I'm not
too worried about performance until we are fully functional.

Once we have a Native GDI server and it passes the xtest suite then,
we should start looking at 'rootless' modes, but feel free to continue
down your path. I just don't want to clutter up code yet with something
else until we're done with a primary objective. And I certainly don't
want my focus to change to anything else yet.

Alan.


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  8 01:28:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 01:28:00 -0000
Subject: rootless mode
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk] 
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 6:21 PM

> Robert,
> 
> I agree with your above suggestions, but we are still a way 
> off doing anything 'rootless' yet. We need a fully functional 
> native GDI server, which it currently isn't and there's still 
> many bugs. Again, I'm not too worried about performance until 
> we are fully functional.

That's cool. I am new to the X codebase, so knowing that I'm on a
generally ok track is all I needed.
 
> Once we have a Native GDI server and it passes the xtest 
> suite then, we should start looking at 'rootless' modes, but 
> feel free to continue down your path. I just don't want to 
> clutter up code yet with something else until we're done with 
> a primary objective. And I certainly don't want my focus to 
> change to anything else yet.

That's not a problem. I'll #define all the rootless related changes as
such. And I'm not asking your focus to change! 

My initial goal is to prove the concept, and then depending on time
constraints, I'll either
*) work with you and Harold to get an acceptable patch ready
*) maintain the patch every week or two but not try to get it included.
*) drop the patch to the list, for posterity, and forget the whole thing

Given the amount of interest here in rootless mode, I (naively) assume
that if something functional can be shown we may see some folk actively
helping. I also suspect that my recent adventures in building will help,
as they allow Harolds doco + the archives to get folk building the test
server.

Rob


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Mon Apr  8 01:31:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 01:31:00 -0000
Subject: rootless mode
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020408083150.GE1149@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 06:28:23 +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> > Once we have a Native GDI server and it passes the xtest 
> > suite then, we should start looking at 'rootless' modes, but 
> > feel free to continue down your path. I just don't want to 
> > clutter up code yet with something else until we're done with 
> > a primary objective. And I certainly don't want my focus to 
> > change to anything else yet.
> 
> That's not a problem. I'll #define all the rootless related changes as
> such. And I'm not asking your focus to change! 
> 
Sorry Robert, I don't mean to put you off doing this work. It's
much appreciated for anyone else to help out !

> My initial goal is to prove the concept, and then depending on time
> constraints, I'll either
> *) work with you and Harold to get an acceptable patch ready
> *) maintain the patch every week or two but not try to get it included.
> *) drop the patch to the list, for posterity, and forget the whole thing
> 
> Given the amount of interest here in rootless mode, I (naively) assume
> that if something functional can be shown we may see some folk actively
> helping. I also suspect that my recent adventures in building will help,
> as they allow Harolds doco + the archives to get folk building the test
> server.
> 
That's good. I'll look forward to seeing your patch.

Thanks.

Alan.


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  8 04:40:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 04:40:00 -0000
Subject: rootless mode
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk] 
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 6:32 PM

> > That's not a problem. I'll #define all the rootless related 
> changes as 
> > such. And I'm not asking your focus to change!
> > 
> Sorry Robert, I don't mean to put you off doing this work. 

No fear, I'm rather thick skinned.

> It's much appreciated for anyone else to help out !

Yeah, it can be a shock eh :}.
 
Rob


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  8 04:54:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 04:54:00 -0000
Subject: FW: kde 3.0 no icons
Message-ID: 

Scott forgot to cc the list on this.

Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Alexander [mailto:salexander@taz.qinetiq.com]
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:21 AM
To: Harold L Hunt
Subject: Re: kde 3.0 no icons


Hi Harold,

Yes I am running the latest version of Cygwin/XFree86 its 4.2.0.

Cheers.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold L Hunt" 
To: "Scott Alexander" ;

Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: kde 3.0 no icons


> Scott,
>
> That doesn't sound good.
>
> I haven't yet installed KDE 3.0 and I won't have time to for at least a
week,
> so I won't have a chance to look into this for some time.
>
> I know you say that Cygwin/XFree86 is up-to-date, but are you running
> Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0?  You can check by running 'xdpyinfo' in a local
> Cygwin/XFree86 session or in a terminal when you are logged into another
> machine via XDMCP.
>
> Awaiting a chance to investiage this,
>
> Harold
>
> Scott Alexander  said:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > My server has just been upgraded to kde 3.0 running redhat 7.2.  I use =
> > cygwin with xfree86 to connect to this server using
> >
> > x -query 
> >
> > I have been doing this for a while with kde 2.2.2 with no problems.  =
> > However when i connect to it now with kde 3 my screen has no icons or =
> > icons on the kicker bar at the bottom. =20
> >
> > Does anyone know of this problem and a solution for it.
> >
> > My machine runs w2k with up 2 date cygwin and xfree86.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Scott Alexander
> >
> >
>
>
>


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  8 06:42:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 06:42:00 -0000
Subject: X11/Xlib.h not found?
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:20 PM
> To: Robert Collins; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: X11/Xlib.h not found?
> 
> 
> Rob,
> 
> Yes, the cut down tree depends on the installed headers 
> because building the headers requires building the libraries, 
> which the BuildServersOnly (or something like that) flag 
> does.  We only build the servers because it keeps the builds quick.

Thanks Harold, that was the key.

Are you interested in a patch to change remove most of the static vars
from the WindowProcRoutine, and replace them with a lookup into the
WindowPrivRec?

This is essential for rootless mode (and in some respects the most
instrusive code change), and also helps keep things clean for running
multiple screens in the future...

Rob


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Mon Apr  8 06:45:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 06:45:00 -0000
Subject: X11/Xlib.h not found?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020408134515.GI1149@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:42:15 +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> Are you interested in a patch to change remove most of the static vars
> from the WindowProcRoutine, and replace them with a lookup into the
> WindowPrivRec?
> 
> This is essential for rootless mode (and in some respects the most
> instrusive code change), and also helps keep things clean for running
> multiple screens in the future...
> 
Rob,

submit away !

Alan.


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  8 06:58:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 06:58:00 -0000
Subject: X11/Xlib.h not found?
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk] 
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:45 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: X11/Xlib.h not found?
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:42:15 +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> > Are you interested in a patch to change remove most of the 
> static vars 
> > from the WindowProcRoutine, and replace them with a lookup into the 
> > WindowPrivRec?
> > 
> > This is essential for rootless mode (and in some respects the most 
> > instrusive code change), and also helps keep things clean 
> for running 
> > multiple screens in the future...
> > 
> Rob,
> 
> submit away !

I'll see what I can do. There is a chance that I can't do it correctly
without removing the bounding window - if that's the case then I'll
simply leave this is my working dir for now.

Rob


From xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz  Mon Apr  8 07:27:00 2002
From: xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz (David Komanek)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 07:27:00 -0000
Subject: Xfree and OpenGL
In-Reply-To: <1018275606.7709.ezmlm@cygwin.com>
Message-ID: 


Hi,

sorry to vaste your time, but please, can me somebody explain how to use
the OpenGL support in Xfree ? I have installed the complete cygwin
distribution (includes opengl libraries), downloaded and installed
complete Xfree. It works fine with classical X-servers. However,
connecting to SGI workstation, many of its graphical apps don't work. 

Have I edit /etc/X11/XftConfig some way to get the OpenGL libraries loaded
?

Is there some OpenGL application ported for CygWin to test the
functionality localy ?

Latest versions of CygWin and Xfree (downloaded just today), Windows 2000
Pro SP2.

Thanks in advance for any help,

  David Komanek


From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Mon Apr  8 08:19:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 08:19:00 -0000
Subject: rootless mode
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <000001c1df10$be7bcde0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf
> Of Robert Collins
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:13 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: rootless mode
>
>
> I've been thinking about rootless mode.
>
> Here's  my current thoughts:
>
> 1) We create a real win32 window for each X window.
> 2) We use SetWindowLong to store the X window
> pointer in the WIN32
> struct, so that when a message arrives to that
> windowclass's WindowProc,
> we can lookup the X window the message belongs to.
> 3) We use WindowPrivates to store the WIN32
> related window HANDLE and
> other gunk.

It may be that you already know this, but do you have seen
the links about the ntxlib (and perhaps the libw11 project)
on http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/.
The rxvt port is based on this stuff. There is a basic
implementation of creating windows within a x client lib.
Perhaps you can use it for your goal.

Regards
Ralf



From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  8 08:26:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 08:26:00 -0000
Subject: X11/Xlib.h not found?
Message-ID: <200204081526.g38FQkP64788@pilot20.cl.msu.edu>

Yes, that is essential.

Submit away, as Alan said.

Harold

Robert Collins  said:

> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:20 PM
> > To: Robert Collins; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: RE: X11/Xlib.h not found?
> > 
> > 
> > Rob,
> > 
> > Yes, the cut down tree depends on the installed headers 
> > because building the headers requires building the libraries, 
> > which the BuildServersOnly (or something like that) flag 
> > does.  We only build the servers because it keeps the builds quick.
> 
> Thanks Harold, that was the key.
> 
> Are you interested in a patch to change remove most of the static vars
> from the WindowProcRoutine, and replace them with a lookup into the
> WindowPrivRec?
> 
> This is essential for rootless mode (and in some respects the most
> instrusive code change), and also helps keep things clean for running
> multiple screens in the future...
> 
> Rob
> 




From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  8 08:36:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 08:36:00 -0000
Subject: rootless mode
Message-ID: <200204081535.g38FZwP35610@pilot20.cl.msu.edu>

Ralf,

In a single word, the ntxlib project is "worthless" as far as Cygwin/XFree86 
is concerned.  There are a few functions, such as line drawing, where looking 
at how ntxlib calls the GDI function may be interesting, but the data 
structures and overall architecture of ntxlib (and libw11) are completely 
different than Cygwin/XFree86 and, in my opinion, not applicable at all to 
our situation.

Thanks for mentioning it though... it doesn't hurt to have a look at new 
things,

Harold

Ralf Habacker  said:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf
> > Of Robert Collins
> > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:13 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: rootless mode
> >
> >
> > I've been thinking about rootless mode.
> >
> > Here's  my current thoughts:
> >
> > 1) We create a real win32 window for each X window.
> > 2) We use SetWindowLong to store the X window
> > pointer in the WIN32
> > struct, so that when a message arrives to that
> > windowclass's WindowProc,
> > we can lookup the X window the message belongs to.
> > 3) We use WindowPrivates to store the WIN32
> > related window HANDLE and
> > other gunk.
> 
> It may be that you already know this, but do you have seen
> the links about the ntxlib (and perhaps the libw11 project)
> on http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/.
> The rxvt port is based on this stuff. There is a basic
> implementation of creating windows within a x client lib.
> Perhaps you can use it for your goal.
> 
> Regards
> Ralf
> 
> 
> 




From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  8 08:39:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold L Hunt)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 08:39:00 -0000
Subject: Xfree and OpenGL
Message-ID: <200204081539.g38FdpP11254@pilot20.cl.msu.edu>

David,

Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't have OpenGL, it has Mesa.

You can run 'xdpyinfo' in Cygwin/XFree86 and look for the GLX and SGI-GLX 
extensions.  Both of those should be present in a default installation.

I'm not sure if Mesa is completely compatible with OpenGL apps on SGI... 
you'll have to find that out for yourself or hope that someone on the list 
with an SGI machine answers.

Harold

David Komanek  said:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> sorry to vaste your time, but please, can me somebody explain how to use
> the OpenGL support in Xfree ? I have installed the complete cygwin
> distribution (includes opengl libraries), downloaded and installed
> complete Xfree. It works fine with classical X-servers. However,
> connecting to SGI workstation, many of its graphical apps don't work. 
> 
> Have I edit /etc/X11/XftConfig some way to get the OpenGL libraries loaded
> ?
> 
> Is there some OpenGL application ported for CygWin to test the
> functionality localy ?
> 
> Latest versions of CygWin and Xfree (downloaded just today), Windows 2000
> Pro SP2.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help,
> 
>   David Komanek
> 
> 




From iburrell@stanfordalumni.org  Mon Apr  8 12:29:00 2002
From: iburrell@stanfordalumni.org (Ian Burrell)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 12:29:00 -0000
Subject: rootless mode
References: 
Message-ID: <3CB1EFA4.50204@stanfordalumni.org>

Robert Collins wrote:
> I've been thinking about rootless mode.
> 
> Here's  my current thoughts:
> 
> 1) We create a real win32 window for each X window. 

I think we only need a Win32 window for each top-level X window.

> 2) We use SetWindowLong to store the X window pointer in the WIN32
> struct, so that when a message arrives to that windowclass's WindowProc,
> we can lookup the X window the message belongs to.
> 3) We use WindowPrivates to store the WIN32 related window HANDLE and
> other gunk.
> 
> I don't know how we go about telling X it's rootless - Alan, I'm hoping
> you can jump in here and say 'do X, Y and Z'.
> 
> Anyway, whilst I won't have time to be a significant contributor, I hope
> to have a proof-of-concept patch against the Native GDI engine shortly.
> 

It would be nice if the rootless mode was orthogonal to the engine. I 
think this is doable. For the shadow modes, the image is blitted from 
the framebuffer into the individual windows instead of the screen 
window. I can see problems with X and Win32 having different ideas about 
   clipping and overlapping.

I have been looking at the XDarwin code. They have a rootless mode. Some 
of the ideas for wrapping

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@stanfordalumni.org
http://www.znark.com/


From KGreen@ida.org  Mon Apr  8 13:02:00 2002
From: KGreen@ida.org (Green, Keith)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 13:02:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
Message-ID: <5100B747F3C9D311B3210050DA839D0E9967A7@ntexch-1801a.ida.org>



We have an application that requires an X-Server. The application was
developed on SGI,
but has been successfully ported to Linux and Sun.  We also run it on PC's
using the Exceed.

However, we would prefer to give customers an environment they could use for
this.  Some
months ago I downloaded cygwin/xfree86 onto my system (with some help) and
installed it
on my pc.  It appears to support everything we want to do.  Unfortunately,
the entire thing
seems pretty large.  I note that we don't really need cygwin, per se, except
that xfree86
seems to require it as an API.

Is a single install package for cygwin/xfree86 in which the cygwin has been 
scaled-down (without the games, man pages, extraneous - for our needs -
libraries,
plethora of great unix commands)?

I've been browsing the mail archives for this list.  I don't entirely
understand everything I'm
reading, but it sounds like there is somewhere a single installation for
cygwin and xfree86,
although it doesn't sound scaled back.


k


____________________________________________________
Keith Green,  Research Staff Member / Simulation Center
Institute for Defense Analyses
4850 Mark Center Drive / Alexandria, VA 22311-1882
Wk:  (703) 845-6815    Fax:  (703) 845-6809


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  8 13:57:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 13:57:00 -0000
Subject: rootless mode
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Burrell [mailto:iburrell@stanfordalumni.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 5:30 AM
> To: Robert Collins
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: rootless mode
> 
> 
> Robert Collins wrote:
> > I've been thinking about rootless mode.
> > 
> > Here's  my current thoughts:
> > 
> > 1) We create a real win32 window for each X window.
> 
> I think we only need a Win32 window for each top-level X window.

As I know nothing about the Xserver internals, I'm going to avoid any
'optimisations' like this as being premature. Wiser folk than I can
tweak what I create - if it works.
 
> > Anyway, whilst I won't have time to be a significant contributor, I 
> > hope to have a proof-of-concept patch against the Native GDI engine 
> > shortly.
> > 
> 
> It would be nice if the rootless mode was orthogonal to the engine. I 
> think this is doable. For the shadow modes, the image is blitted from 
> the framebuffer into the individual windows instead of the screen 
> window. I can see problems with X and Win32 having different 
> ideas about 
>    clipping and overlapping.

It's probably going to be orthogonal, but I am not going to spend time
trying to make it so. If it works - great, if it doesn't - well as soon
as I have something prettier than a dozen blank windows on the task bar
(The current state :}) you'll get a patch and can play to your hearts
content. All the needed doco to build the test tree is now on record..
 
Rob


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  8 14:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 14:00:00 -0000
Subject: rootless mode
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Rob,

One Win32 window per top-level X windows isn't an optimization... it's just
necessary.  A top-level window is like a Windows window with a blue
border... any other window could be a button or a scrollbar, etc.  We
certainly don't want to create a Win32 window for each of those (just
picture an X window with a bounding Win32 window and a Win32 window for each
button it has... won't work).

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Robert Collins
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:58 PM
> To: Ian Burrell
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: rootless mode
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ian Burrell [mailto:iburrell@stanfordalumni.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 5:30 AM
> > To: Robert Collins
> > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: rootless mode
> >
> >
> > Robert Collins wrote:
> > > I've been thinking about rootless mode.
> > >
> > > Here's  my current thoughts:
> > >
> > > 1) We create a real win32 window for each X window.
> >
> > I think we only need a Win32 window for each top-level X window.
>
> As I know nothing about the Xserver internals, I'm going to avoid any
> 'optimisations' like this as being premature. Wiser folk than I can
> tweak what I create - if it works.
>
> > > Anyway, whilst I won't have time to be a significant contributor, I
> > > hope to have a proof-of-concept patch against the Native GDI engine
> > > shortly.
> > >
> >
> > It would be nice if the rootless mode was orthogonal to the engine. I
> > think this is doable. For the shadow modes, the image is blitted from
> > the framebuffer into the individual windows instead of the screen
> > window. I can see problems with X and Win32 having different
> > ideas about
> >    clipping and overlapping.
>
> It's probably going to be orthogonal, but I am not going to spend time
> trying to make it so. If it works - great, if it doesn't - well as soon
> as I have something prettier than a dozen blank windows on the task bar
> (The current state :}) you'll get a patch and can play to your hearts
> content. All the needed doco to build the test tree is now on record..
>
> Rob


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  8 14:07:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 14:07:00 -0000
Subject: rootless mode
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 7:01 AM
> To: Robert Collins; Ian Burrell
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: rootless mode
> 
> 
> Rob,
> 
> One Win32 window per top-level X windows isn't an 
> optimization... it's just necessary.  A top-level window is 
> like a Windows window with a blue border... any other window 
> could be a button or a scrollbar, etc.  We certainly don't 
> want to create a Win32 window for each of those (just picture 
> an X window with a bounding Win32 window and a Win32 window 
> for each button it has... won't work).

Actually Win32 uses CreateWindow to create all the buttons and
scrollbars you see in (say) outlook or wordpad. Based on that I see
little or no reason it shouldn't work. However, I imagine that only
top-level windows will need to show on the task bar. Anyway, my first
goal is simply proof of concept - the native engine rendering into each
window based on picking up the pWin from GetWindowLong. What is a good
way to detect top-lvel X windows given a WindowPtr (so I can test this
rather than being stubborn :}).

The top level windows I'm creating have no win32 decoration - no close
button etc. That's a window manager consideration and one of the pdfs
you've gather documents a good way to handle that.

Rob


From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Mon Apr  8 14:43:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 14:43:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <5100B747F3C9D311B3210050DA839D0E9967A7@ntexch-1801a.ida.org>
References: <5100B747F3C9D311B3210050DA839D0E9967A7@ntexch-1801a.ida.org>
Message-ID: <20020408214321.GA17954@redhat.com>

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:02:06PM -0400, Green, Keith wrote:
>However, we would prefer to give customers an environment they could
>use for this.  Some months ago I downloaded cygwin/xfree86 onto my
>system (with some help) and installed it on my pc.  It appears to
>support everything we want to do.  Unfortunately, the entire thing
>seems pretty large.  I note that we don't really need cygwin, per se,
>except that xfree86 seems to require it as an API.
>
>Is a single install package for cygwin/xfree86 in which the cygwin has
>been scaled-down (without the games, man pages, extraneous - for our
>needs - libraries, plethora of great unix commands)?

The base cygwin install provides, er, a base cygwin install.  That's the
default for the Cygwin installation.  There is currently no XFree86
package in the cygwin installation at all.

>I've been browsing the mail archives for this list.  I don't entirely
>understand everything I'm reading, but it sounds like there is
>somewhere a single installation for cygwin and xfree86, although it
>doesn't sound scaled back.

Not that I'm aware of.  It's been a goal but movement on it is pretty
slow.

I would love for someone to post a proposal for inclusion of a XFree86
package to the cygwin-apps mailing list using the guidelines at
http://cygwin.com/setup.html but so far no one has been willing to do
that.

Once that happened, then you'd be able to just install XFree86 via the
standard cygwin installation.

cgf


From KGreen@ida.org  Mon Apr  8 15:42:00 2002
From: KGreen@ida.org (Green, Keith)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 15:42:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin? tx
Message-ID: <5100B747F3C9D311B3210050DA839D0E9967A8@ntexch-1801a.ida.org>


Heya, Christopher,

Thanks for the quick response.

k

____________________________________________________
Keith Green,  Research Staff Member / Simulation Center
Institute for Defense Analyses
4850 Mark Center Drive / Alexandria, VA 22311-1882
Wk:  (703) 845-6815    Fax:  (703) 845-6809


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com]
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:43 PM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Cc: KGreen@ida.org
Subject: Re: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?


On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:02:06PM -0400, Green, Keith wrote:
>However, we would prefer to give customers an environment they could
>use for this.  Some months ago I downloaded cygwin/xfree86 onto my
>system (with some help) and installed it on my pc.  It appears to
>support everything we want to do.  Unfortunately, the entire thing
>seems pretty large.  I note that we don't really need cygwin, per se,
>except that xfree86 seems to require it as an API.
>
>Is a single install package for cygwin/xfree86 in which the cygwin has
>been scaled-down (without the games, man pages, extraneous - for our
>needs - libraries, plethora of great unix commands)?

The base cygwin install provides, er, a base cygwin install.  That's the
default for the Cygwin installation.  There is currently no XFree86
package in the cygwin installation at all.

>I've been browsing the mail archives for this list.  I don't entirely
>understand everything I'm reading, but it sounds like there is
>somewhere a single installation for cygwin and xfree86, although it
>doesn't sound scaled back.

Not that I'm aware of.  It's been a goal but movement on it is pretty
slow.

I would love for someone to post a proposal for inclusion of a XFree86
package to the cygwin-apps mailing list using the guidelines at
http://cygwin.com/setup.html but so far no one has been willing to do
that.

Once that happened, then you'd be able to just install XFree86 via the
standard cygwin installation.

cgf


From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Mon Apr  8 15:44:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 15:44:00 -0000
Subject: rootless mode
In-Reply-To: <200204081535.g38FZwP35610@pilot20.cl.msu.edu>
Message-ID: <000e01c1df4f$009faf00$4e6607d5@BRAMSCHE>


Thank you for pointing this out. :-) I doesn't know that in
this detail

Regards
Ralf


From iburrell@znark.com  Mon Apr  8 16:57:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 16:57:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
References: <5100B747F3C9D311B3210050DA839D0E9967A7@ntexch-1801a.ida.org> <20020408214321.GA17954@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3CB22E4C.80100@znark.com>

Christopher Faylor wrote:
> 
> The base cygwin install provides, er, a base cygwin install.  That's the
> default for the Cygwin installation.  There is currently no XFree86
> package in the cygwin installation at all.
> 

They could create a custom install if they wanted. The Cygwin setup 
program can download packages from any site. They would need to select 
the packages for a minimal install, create a new setup.ini, and mirror 
those packages on their download site.

> 
> I would love for someone to post a proposal for inclusion of a XFree86
> package to the cygwin-apps mailing list using the guidelines at
> http://cygwin.com/setup.html but so far no one has been willing to do
> that.
> 

The first step is to build Cygwin-style packages. The second step is to 
create a local install directory with custom setup.ini and packages. The 
third step is to get it included into the standard cygwin install.

I thought someone already did the packaging. One question is do we want 
to separate it into multiple packages. Another is what to name the 
packages; xfree86 or xoncygwin would be good choices. I think multiple 
packages is a good idea. Mainly so the server executable can be updated 
without updating the other files.

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr  8 17:13:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 17:13:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <3CB22E4C.80100@znark.com>
References: <5100B747F3C9D311B3210050DA839D0E9967A7@ntexch-1801a.ida.org> <20020408214321.GA17954@redhat.com> <3CB22E4C.80100@znark.com>
Message-ID: <20020409001316.GE20382@redhat.com>

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:57:00PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
>>I would love for someone to post a proposal for inclusion of a XFree86
>>package to the cygwin-apps mailing list using the guidelines at
>>http://cygwin.com/setup.html but so far no one has been willing to do
>>that.
>
>The first step is to build Cygwin-style packages. The second step is to 
>create a local install directory with custom setup.ini and packages. The 
>third step is to get it included into the standard cygwin install.

I don't care how you want to get things ready.  Someone has to take
ownership and it has to be proposed/discussed in cygwin-apps.

cgf


From m.manohar@attbi.com  Mon Apr  8 19:43:00 2002
From: m.manohar@attbi.com (M Manohar)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 19:43:00 -0000
Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
Message-ID: <3CB25505.1080903@attbi.com>

Hi,

I recently installed KDE 3.0 on my linux box and have the same problem, that is certain icons don't get displayed
on Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0 (version confirmed by running xdpyinfo).

I poked around a little more and found that icons that are in PNG format are the ones that 
don't get displayed. I checked my Cygwin installation for libpng.dll and it does exist
(I manually copied cygpng2.dll to libpng.dll). I'm not sure if this library is required though.

Hoping somebody can help me on this.

Thanks
Manohar

----------------
Scott,

That doesn't sound good.

I haven't yet installed KDE 3.0 and I won't have time to for at least a week, 
so I won't have a chance to look into this for some time.

I know you say that Cygwin/XFree86 is up-to-date, but are you running 
Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0?  You can check by running 'xdpyinfo' in a local 
Cygwin/XFree86 session or in a terminal when you are logged into another 
machine via XDMCP.

Awaiting a chance to investiage this,

Harold

Scott Alexander  said:

> Hi,
> 
> My server has just been upgraded to kde 3.0 running redhat 7.2.  I use =
> cygwin with xfree86 to connect to this server using
> 
> x -query 
> 
> I have been doing this for a while with kde 2.2.2 with no problems.  =
> However when i connect to it now with kde 3 my screen has no icons or =
> icons on the kicker bar at the bottom. =20
> 
> Does anyone know of this problem and a solution for it.
> 
> My machine runs w2k with up 2 date cygwin and xfree86.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Scott Alexander
> 
> 





From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  8 21:35:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 21:35:00 -0000
Subject: drawables
Message-ID: 

For rootless, I'd ideally be able to go from a pdrawable to a pWin. Is
there a reliable way to do this?

Some scenarios where this makes sense:
1) Anything passed a pDrawable + a pGC - if it's a window we want a HDC
for that window.
2) Clipping. If we are drawing a window we need a win32 clipping context
so that we don't overwrite other onscreen windows that happen to be in
front of us. (At the moment we draw onto the win32 screen DC, because I
can't go from pDrawable to pWin in the setspans/fillspans routines.

BTW, I have rootless mode happily drawing all the windows, with a win32
window on the task bar. I'm deliberatly not writing a 'internal window
manager' at this point.

So we're nearly at my proof-of-concept target.

Rob


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  8 22:11:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 22:11:00 -0000
Subject: drawables
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Rob,

If you have a pDrawable and pDrawable->type == DRAWABLE_WINDOW then you
actually have a pWindow already and pWindow == pDrawable.

Just look at xc/programs/Xserver/include/windowstr.h/WindowRec and you'll
see that the first member in a WindowRec is actually a DrawableRec, so the
address of that DrawableRec is the same as the address of the WindowRec.

The exact same thing is true for PixmapRec's and we have to use that
knowledge in winfillsp.c/winFillSpansNativeGDI to get a pixmap pointer when
pDrawable->type == DRAWBLE_PIXMAP via

pPixmap = (PixmapPtr) pDrawable;


I hope that clarifies things.

This may actually be documented in the Porting Layer Definition, but I don't
remember for sure.

Sounds like you are making good progress.  Keep it up and I hope to see what
you have soon,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Robert Collins
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 12:36 AM
> To: Cygwin-Xfree
> Subject: drawables
>
>
> For rootless, I'd ideally be able to go from a pdrawable to a pWin. Is
> there a reliable way to do this?
>
> Some scenarios where this makes sense:
> 1) Anything passed a pDrawable + a pGC - if it's a window we want a HDC
> for that window.
> 2) Clipping. If we are drawing a window we need a win32 clipping context
> so that we don't overwrite other onscreen windows that happen to be in
> front of us. (At the moment we draw onto the win32 screen DC, because I
> can't go from pDrawable to pWin in the setspans/fillspans routines.
>
> BTW, I have rootless mode happily drawing all the windows, with a win32
> window on the task bar. I'm deliberatly not writing a 'internal window
> manager' at this point.
>
> So we're nearly at my proof-of-concept target.
>
> Rob


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  8 22:34:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 22:34:00 -0000
Subject: XWarpCursor doesn't "stick"
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Bill,

Did Server Test 55 solve your problem?

I don't recall seeing an email from you stating that the problem was fixed.

Let me know for sure and I'll get the patch committed.

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/

Thanks,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Trost, Bill
> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 11:43 AM
> To: 'Harold L Hunt'
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: XWarpCursor doesn't "stick"
>
>
>     From: Harold L Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
>
>     So lets say that the Windows cursor is at 100, 100 (screen
>     coords), the upper left-hand corner of the Cygwin/XFree86
> client area is
> at
>     25, 25 (screen coords) and a warp request comes in to move to the X
> cursor
>     to 200, 200 (X windows coords).  I am thinking of two things that you
>     could be saying:
>
>     1) ...
>
>     2) Or, I receive a request to move the cursor to a final
>     location of 200, 200 and I do so, which fails to take into
> account that
> the X
>     cursor root is at 25, 25 in Windows screen coodinates.
>
> It looks like #2 to me. Email sure makes it hard to explain some things,
> doesn't it?
>
> Visually, the effect is, if I simply run "XWin" (so that the X
> root occupies
> a maximized Windows window), after a large warp, tweaking the mouse will
> cause the pointer to jump up one title-bar height.
>
>     ...I need to query for the
>     upper-left hand corner of the Cygwin/XFree86 client area
>     before calling SetCursorPos so that I can offset the final
> destination.
>
> That's what I guess needs fixing.
>
>     Notice that no one has really request the WarpCursor
>     functionality before, that's why it doesn't work yet. :)
>
> Really?  I'm shocked!   (-:
>
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  8 22:36:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 22:36:00 -0000
Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
In-Reply-To: <3CB25505.1080903@attbi.com>
Message-ID: 

Manohar,

I just logged into KDE3 via one of the computers in our campus labs today
(running 4.1.99 which is either some unknown test release or 4.1.0) and saw
the problem that you mentioned.  I noticed that two desktop icons show up
(one was the "Internet" icon for Konq) but no bottom-bar buttons showed up.

I'm not sure what causes the problem but at least now I have some sort of
test environment.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of M Manohar
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:42 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: kde 3.0 no icons
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I recently installed KDE 3.0 on my linux box and have the same
> problem, that is certain icons don't get displayed
> on Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0 (version confirmed by running xdpyinfo).
>
> I poked around a little more and found that icons that are in PNG
> format are the ones that
> don't get displayed. I checked my Cygwin installation for
> libpng.dll and it does exist
> (I manually copied cygpng2.dll to libpng.dll). I'm not sure if
> this library is required though.
>
> Hoping somebody can help me on this.
>
> Thanks
> Manohar
>
> ----------------
> Scott,
>
> That doesn't sound good.
>
> I haven't yet installed KDE 3.0 and I won't have time to for at
> least a week,
> so I won't have a chance to look into this for some time.
>
> I know you say that Cygwin/XFree86 is up-to-date, but are you running
> Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0?  You can check by running 'xdpyinfo' in a local
> Cygwin/XFree86 session or in a terminal when you are logged into another
> machine via XDMCP.
>
> Awaiting a chance to investiage this,
>
> Harold
>
> Scott Alexander  said:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > My server has just been upgraded to kde 3.0 running redhat 7.2.  I use =
> > cygwin with xfree86 to connect to this server using
> >
> > x -query 
> >
> > I have been doing this for a while with kde 2.2.2 with no problems.  =
> > However when i connect to it now with kde 3 my screen has no icons or =
> > icons on the kicker bar at the bottom. =20
> >
> > Does anyone know of this problem and a solution for it.
> >
> > My machine runs w2k with up 2 date cygwin and xfree86.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Scott Alexander
> >
> >
>
>
>
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr  8 22:39:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 22:39:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <20020409001316.GE20382@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Chris,

Did we ever get "meta" packages enabled in Cygwin setup that are essentially
file-less packages (e.g. XFree86 Minimum Install, XFree86 Standard Install,
etc.) that depend on other packages?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 8:13 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:57:00PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
> >>I would love for someone to post a proposal for inclusion of a XFree86
> >>package to the cygwin-apps mailing list using the guidelines at
> >>http://cygwin.com/setup.html but so far no one has been willing to do
> >>that.
> >
> >The first step is to build Cygwin-style packages. The second step is to
> >create a local install directory with custom setup.ini and packages. The
> >third step is to get it included into the standard cygwin install.
>
> I don't care how you want to get things ready.  Someone has to take
> ownership and it has to be proposed/discussed in cygwin-apps.
>
> cgf


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Mon Apr  8 22:40:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 22:40:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 3:39 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
> 
> 
> Chris,
> 
> Did we ever get "meta" packages enabled in Cygwin setup that 
> are essentially file-less packages (e.g. XFree86 Minimum 
> Install, XFree86 Standard Install,
> etc.) that depend on other packages?

Yes. Uhmm, two versions back.

Cheers,
Rob
(Cygwin Setup maintainer)


From Joerg.Schaible@gft.com  Tue Apr  9 01:01:00 2002
From: Joerg.Schaible@gft.com (Schaible, Jorg)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 01:01:00 -0000
Subject: rootless mode
Message-ID: <1264BCF4F426D611B0B00050DA782A501117D5@mail.gft.com>

Hi Rob,

>> One Win32 window per top-level X windows isn't an 
>> optimization... it's just necessary.  A top-level window is 
>> like a Windows window with a blue border... any other window 
>> could be a button or a scrollbar, etc.  We certainly don't 
>> want to create a Win32 window for each of those (just picture 
>> an X window with a bounding Win32 window and a Win32 window 
>> for each button it has... won't work).
>
>Actually Win32 uses CreateWindow to create all the buttons and
>scrollbars you see in (say) outlook or wordpad. Based on that I see
>little or no reason it shouldn't work. However, I imagine that only
>top-level windows will need to show on the task bar. Anyway, my first
>goal is simply proof of concept - the native engine rendering into each
>window based on picking up the pWin from GetWindowLong. What is a good
>way to detect top-lvel X windows given a WindowPtr (so I can test this
>rather than being stubborn :}).
>
>The top level windows I'm creating have no win32 decoration - no close
>button etc. That's a window manager consideration and one of the pdfs
>you've gather documents a good way to handle that.

please keep also in mind, that the decoration of a window in X is coming
from the X Window Manager. Windows always counts the border as part ot the
Window itself. If you try to use native Windows controls for the X controls
you may run here in major sizing prtoblems.  Even for the top-level windows
you may always keep the inner window size of the Windows based window in
sync with the X size.

I've developed and maintained for some years a cross-platform C++-GUI lib
(Win16/Win32/OS2/Motif), so I know what I am talking about. Please don't get
me wrong. I don't wanna tell you, what you should prove with your concept. I
just want to give you a hint where some major problems will arise ;-)

Regards,
Jorg


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Tue Apr  9 01:50:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 01:50:00 -0000
Subject: drawables
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 3:11 PM

> I hope that clarifies things.
> 
> This may actually be documented in the Porting Layer 
> Definition, but I don't remember for sure.

Yes it is sortof - some frameworks have defined mechanisms for RTTI, and
I hate to guess wrong...
 
> Sounds like you are making good progress.  Keep it up and I 
> hope to see what you have soon,

So do I :}.

As soon as I get the mouse going again I think I'll send the patch in.

Rob


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Tue Apr  9 02:02:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 02:02:00 -0000
Subject: rootless mode
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Schaible, Jorg [mailto:Joerg.Schaible@gft.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 6:02 PM

> please keep also in mind, that the decoration of a window in 
> X is coming from the X Window Manager. Windows always counts 
> the border as part ot the Window itself. If you try to use 
> native Windows controls for the X controls you may run here 
> in major sizing prtoblems.  Even for the top-level windows 
> you may always keep the inner window size of the Windows 
> based window in sync with the X size.

Of course. That's a problem whenever a decorator may work on your
window.
 
> I've developed and maintained for some years a cross-platform 
> C++-GUI lib (Win16/Win32/OS2/Motif), so I know what I am 
> talking about. Please don't get me wrong. I don't wanna tell 
> you, what you should prove with your concept. I just want to 
> give you a hint where some major problems will arise ;-)

I've actually run into this before. 
CreateWindowEx (WS_EX_TOOLWINDOW,
                someclass,
                sometitle,       
                WS_POPUP,
                x1,      
                y1,      
                width,       
                height,       
                (HWND) NULL,
                (HMENU) NULL,
                GetModuleHandle (NULL),
                pPrivateData);

creates a completely borderless window that is not visible in the task
list but sits behind everying - so it needs a parent. WS_CHILD also
creates a borderless window IIRC - and that's used for controls.
Changing the WS_EX_TOOLWINDOW to 0 creates a completely borderless
window that is visible in the task list and participates in the
Z-order... 

Thanks for taking the time to point out a possible problem though, I do
appreciate the input.

Rob


From xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz  Tue Apr  9 05:43:00 2002
From: xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz (David Komanek)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 05:43:00 -0000
Subject: Xfree and OpenGL
In-Reply-To: <200204081539.g38FdpP11254@pilot20.cl.msu.edu>
Message-ID: 


Dear Harold,

thank you for the reply. xdpyinfo shows that both named extensions are
present. Is there some possibility to trace where is the problem (some
debug mode for Xfree or so ?)

David


> David,
> 
> Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't have OpenGL, it has Mesa.
> 
> You can run 'xdpyinfo' in Cygwin/XFree86 and look for the GLX and SGI-GLX 
> extensions.  Both of those should be present in a default installation.
> 
> I'm not sure if Mesa is completely compatible with OpenGL apps on SGI... 
> you'll have to find that out for yourself or hope that someone on the list 
> with an SGI machine answers.
> 
> Harold
> 
> David Komanek  said:
> 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > sorry to vaste your time, but please, can me somebody explain how to use
> > the OpenGL support in Xfree ? I have installed the complete cygwin
> > distribution (includes opengl libraries), downloaded and installed
> > complete Xfree. It works fine with classical X-servers. However,
> > connecting to SGI workstation, many of its graphical apps don't work. 
> > 
> > Have I edit /etc/X11/XftConfig some way to get the OpenGL libraries loaded
> > ?
> > 
> > Is there some OpenGL application ported for CygWin to test the
> > functionality localy ?
> > 
> > Latest versions of CygWin and Xfree (downloaded just today), Windows 2000
> > Pro SP2.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for any help,
> > 
> >   David Komanek
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Tue Apr  9 05:46:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 05:46:00 -0000
Subject: Xfree and OpenGL
In-Reply-To: 
References: <200204081539.g38FdpP11254@pilot20.cl.msu.edu> 
Message-ID: <20020409124624.GG11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:43:13PM +0200, David Komanek wrote:
> Dear Harold,
> 
> thank you for the reply. xdpyinfo shows that both named extensions are
> present. Is there some possibility to trace where is the problem (some
> debug mode for Xfree or so ?)
> 
David,

There is a sample program called 'glxgears' which will draw three
depth buffered rotating gears. If this works, you've got it all running.

What's your application reporting ?

Alan.


From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr  9 06:02:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 06:02:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020409001316.GE20382@redhat.com> 
Message-ID: <20020409130227.GA2005@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 01:39:18AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>Chris,
>
>Did we ever get "meta" packages enabled in Cygwin setup that are essentially
>file-less packages (e.g. XFree86 Minimum Install, XFree86 Standard Install,
>etc.) that depend on other packages?

Yep, as Robert indicated, this has been possible for a while.

For Cygwin/XFree86, what I'd like to do is have you all come up with
a few .tar.bz2 files which install into a /usr/X11R6,
/etc/X11, etc.

The hierarchy would be something like:

xfree
  base
    setup.hint
    XFree-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
    XFree-4.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2
  doc
    setup.hint
    XFree-doc-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
  devel
    setup.hint
    XFree86-devel-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
    XFree86-devel-4.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2

(borrowing from the apparent Red Hat package names)

The setup hint file for base would be something like:

sdesc: "The basic fonts, programs and docs for an X workstation."
requires: cygwin termcap libncurses6 terminfo
category: XFree86
ldesc: "he X Window System provides the base technology for developing
graphical user interfaces. Simply stated, X draws the elements
of the GUI on the user's screen and builds methods for sending
user interactions back to the application. X also supports remote
application deployment--running an application on another computer
while viewing the input/output on your machine.  X is a powerful
environment which supports many different applications, such as
games, programming tools, graphics programs, text editors, etc.
XFree86 is the version of X which runs on Linux, as well as on other
platforms.

This package contains the basic fonts, programs and documentation
for an X workstation.  However, this package doesn't provide the
program which you will need to drive your video hardware.  To
control your video card, you'll need the particular X server
package which corresponds to your computer's video card.

Additionally, you will need to install the Xconfigurator package, the xfs
X font server package and the XFree86-libs package.
You may also need to install one or more of the XFree86 fonts packages.

And finally, if you are going to develop applications that run as
X clients, you will also need to install XFree86-devel."

cgf


From xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz  Tue Apr  9 08:07:00 2002
From: xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz (David Komanek)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 08:07:00 -0000
Subject: Xfree and OpenGL
In-Reply-To: <20020409124624.GG11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: 


Dear Alan,

thanks for your comments/advices. I tried glxgears and it works. The gears
are not rotating fluent enough on my 800MHz pentium, but I don't expect
this is related to my problem.

I am able to start xterm, swmgr, toolchest connecting to SGI 6.5.14 box
which probably use classical X11 and Motif library only. Trying to start
i.e. "jot", it claims:

dgl error (protocol): remote machine not DGL capable - meda:10.0
dgl error (default init): default dglopen(meda:10.0,4) returned -13

Connecting to another box, running IRIX 6.2, it is even worse - swmgr
shows only the first "Wait please ...." window and then you can wait for
hours and the main window does not appear. In the xterm you can see
following message: 

WARNING: Not all colors for application icons could be allocated.  Some 
interface elements may have different colors.
Warning: creating new shape image

Jot coredumps, many others too.
Toolchest starts fine, but no apps called invoked from its menus.

When I run this apps on the local graphics console of an SGI box, it works
fine.

Well, this problem is not connection type related (both ssh and
telnet+xhost produce same results). Probably should I install something on
the SGI boxes to translate DGL requests into the X11 protocol (rendered on
the server side, but at least working) ?

Any ideas are appreciated.

David



> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:43:13PM +0200, David Komanek wrote:
> > Dear Harold,
> > 
> > thank you for the reply. xdpyinfo shows that both named extensions are
> > present. Is there some possibility to trace where is the problem (some
> > debug mode for Xfree or so ?)
> > 
> David,
> 
> There is a sample program called 'glxgears' which will draw three
> depth buffered rotating gears. If this works, you've got it all running.
> 
> What's your application reporting ?
> 
> Alan.
> 


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Tue Apr  9 08:16:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 08:16:00 -0000
Subject: Xfree and OpenGL
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020409124624.GG11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk> 
Message-ID: <20020409151607.GN11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 05:07:27PM +0200, David Komanek wrote:
> Dear Alan,
> 
> thanks for your comments/advices. I tried glxgears and it works. The gears
> are not rotating fluent enough on my 800MHz pentium, but I don't expect
> this is related to my problem.
> 
> I am able to start xterm, swmgr, toolchest connecting to SGI 6.5.14 box
> which probably use classical X11 and Motif library only. Trying to start
> i.e. "jot", it claims:
> 
> dgl error (protocol): remote machine not DGL capable - meda:10.0
> dgl error (default init): default dglopen(meda:10.0,4) returned -13
> 
Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't have the DGL extension. If you do an 'xdpyinfo'
on your SGI box, you'll probably see it.

I suspect you won't be able to get this app working on anything but
SGI boxes.

> Connecting to another box, running IRIX 6.2, it is even worse - swmgr
> shows only the first "Wait please ...." window and then you can wait for
> hours and the main window does not appear. In the xterm you can see
> following message: 
> 
> WARNING: Not all colors for application icons could be allocated.  Some 
> interface elements may have different colors.
> Warning: creating new shape image
> 
> Jot coredumps, many others too.
> Toolchest starts fine, but no apps called invoked from its menus.
> 
> When I run this apps on the local graphics console of an SGI box, it works
> fine.
> 
> Well, this problem is not connection type related (both ssh and
> telnet+xhost produce same results). Probably should I install something on
> the SGI boxes to translate DGL requests into the X11 protocol (rendered on
> the server side, but at least working) ?
> 
How many colours is your Windows screen set up in ? 

Try changing the depth to 24bit (i.e. 16million colours)

Alan.


From xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz  Tue Apr  9 08:27:00 2002
From: xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz (David Komanek)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 08:27:00 -0000
Subject: Xfree and OpenGL
In-Reply-To: <20020409151607.GN11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: 


> > dgl error (protocol): remote machine not DGL capable - meda:10.0
> > dgl error (default init): default dglopen(meda:10.0,4) returned -13
> > 
> Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't have the DGL extension. If you do an 'xdpyinfo'
> on your SGI box, you'll probably see it.

Eh, I thought, DGL is SGI name for OpenGL. Sorry.

> I suspect you won't be able to get this app working on anything but
> SGI boxes.

O.k., I'll trz VNC if it can handle it on the copy of local display. Not
Xfree related anymore.

> > WARNING: Not all colors for application icons could be allocated.  Some 
> > interface elements may have different colors.
> > Warning: creating new shape image
> > 
> > Jot coredumps, many others too.
> > Toolchest starts fine, but no apps called invoked from its menus.
> > 
> > When I run this apps on the local graphics console of an SGI box, it works
> > fine.
> > 
> > Well, this problem is not connection type related (both ssh and
> > telnet+xhost produce same results). Probably should I install something on
> > the SGI boxes to translate DGL requests into the X11 protocol (rendered on
> > the server side, but at least working) ?
> > 
> How many colours is your Windows screen set up in ? 
> 
> Try changing the depth to 24bit (i.e. 16million colours)

Using TrueColor(32bit) on the desktop and starting Xfree with 

start XWin -screen 0 1024 768

so I don't expect problems here. Probably something in color
translation. Most important I see the "creating new shape image" warning
which I get not on the native SGI display.

David




From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Tue Apr  9 08:33:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 08:33:00 -0000
Subject: Xfree and OpenGL
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020409151607.GN11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk> 
Message-ID: <20020409153336.GP11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 05:27:28PM +0200, David Komanek wrote:
> 
> > > dgl error (protocol): remote machine not DGL capable - meda:10.0
> > > dgl error (default init): default dglopen(meda:10.0,4) returned -13
> > > 
> > Cygwin/XFree86 doesn't have the DGL extension. If you do an 'xdpyinfo'
> > on your SGI box, you'll probably see it.
> 
> Eh, I thought, DGL is SGI name for OpenGL. Sorry.
> 
I think you'll find DGL is IrixGL which pre-dated OpenGL, but still
supported on SGI boxes.

Did you do an 'xdpyinfo' on the SGI box ? Did it list DGL ?

> > I suspect you won't be able to get this app working on anything but
> > SGI boxes.
> 
> O.k., I'll trz VNC if it can handle it on the copy of local display. Not
> Xfree related anymore.
> 
VNC is probably your only hope.

Alan.


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Tue Apr  9 08:48:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 08:48:00 -0000
Subject: Just a note - nativegdi engine
Message-ID: 

I've made serious progress, but I'm having trouble with two things.

1) The mouse - I'm not getting any WM_MOUSEMOVE messages to the app
windows. Anyone seen this before?
2) I've broken fillspans for DRAWABLE_WINDOWs. I can fix it by drawing
into the root window hdc always,
but that's defeating the purpose - all we gain is the pretty task bar
entries :[.

2) I'm working on, I suspect it's a coordinate translation thing. I get
lovely background stipple but not (AFAICT solid fills). 

Anyway, the reason for the email:

Harold:
I thought you might like to see the little todo: I've added.

Creating a single combined clipping region using CombineRgn will allow
you to move the for (iX= ..)loop from within the while (nbox--) loop,
thus saving multiple selectClipRgn+deleteObject + bitblt calls, which
may make the native engine quite a bit faster. I *will* do this
optimisation here and elsewhere, but only after I get the fills working
for 'native' windows first.

Rob

              /* TODO: create a single commbined clipping region */
              nbox = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pClip);
              pbox = REGION_RECTS (pClip);
              while (nbox--)
                {
                  hrgn = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2,
pbox->y2);
                  SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdcMem, hrgn);
                  DeleteObject (hrgn);
                  hrgn = NULL;

                  for (iX = fullX1; iX < fullX2; iX +=
pStipple->drawable.width)
                    {
                      int width;

                      if ((iX + pStipple->drawable.width) > fullX2)
                        width = fullX2 - iX;
                      else
                        width = pStipple->drawable.width;

                      BitBlt (pGCPriv->hdcMem,
                              iX, fullY1,
                              width, 1,
                              hdcStipple,
                              0,
                              fullY1 % pStipple->drawable.height,
                              g_copyROP[pGC->alu]);
                    }

                  pbox++;
                }


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Tue Apr  9 08:56:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 08:56:00 -0000
Subject: Just a note - nativegdi engine
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020409155639.GQ11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:47:58AM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> 2) I'm working on, I suspect it's a coordinate translation thing. I get
> lovely background stipple but not (AFAICT solid fills). 
> 
Rob,

Take a look at wingc.c and set miTranslate to 0 (FALSE).

Alan.


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Tue Apr  9 09:00:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 09:00:00 -0000
Subject: Just a note - nativegdi engine
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020409160002.GR11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:47:58AM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> Creating a single combined clipping region using CombineRgn will allow
> you to move the for (iX= ..)loop from within the while (nbox--) loop,
> thus saving multiple selectClipRgn+deleteObject + bitblt calls, which
> may make the native engine quite a bit faster. I *will* do this
> optimisation here and elsewhere, but only after I get the fills working
> for 'native' windows first.
> 
Forgot about this....

Robert, this loop is not a single blt. It's a span of small blits
of a part of the stipple/tile. You won't be able to just do a single
blit for this.

Alan.


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Tue Apr  9 09:12:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 09:12:00 -0000
Subject: Just a note - nativegdi engine
In-Reply-To: <20020409160002.GR11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
References:  <20020409160002.GR11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20020409161215.GS11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:47:58AM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> Creating a single combined clipping region using CombineRgn will allow
> you to move the for (iX= ..)loop from within the while (nbox--) loop,
> thus saving multiple selectClipRgn+deleteObject + bitblt calls, which
> may make the native engine quite a bit faster. I *will* do this
> optimisation here and elsewhere, but only after I get the fills working
> for 'native' windows first.
> 
Shucks...

Re-read it. I understand what your saying now. Ignore that last one.

Alan.


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr  9 09:23:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 09:23:00 -0000
Subject: Xfree and OpenGL
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

David,

Just as a sanity check, you have run non OpenGL applications from your SGI
machine using Cygwin/XFree86, right?  I mean, it wouldn't make much sense to
jump right into debugging complex applications if an xterm doesn't work
correctly.

Just let us know that you have in fact done this.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of David Komanek
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:07 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: Xfree and OpenGL
>
>
>
> Dear Alan,
>
> thanks for your comments/advices. I tried glxgears and it works. The gears
> are not rotating fluent enough on my 800MHz pentium, but I don't expect
> this is related to my problem.
>
> I am able to start xterm, swmgr, toolchest connecting to SGI 6.5.14 box
> which probably use classical X11 and Motif library only. Trying to start
> i.e. "jot", it claims:
>
> dgl error (protocol): remote machine not DGL capable - meda:10.0
> dgl error (default init): default dglopen(meda:10.0,4) returned -13
>
> Connecting to another box, running IRIX 6.2, it is even worse - swmgr
> shows only the first "Wait please ...." window and then you can wait for
> hours and the main window does not appear. In the xterm you can see
> following message:
>
> WARNING: Not all colors for application icons could be allocated.  Some
> interface elements may have different colors.
> Warning: creating new shape image
>
> Jot coredumps, many others too.
> Toolchest starts fine, but no apps called invoked from its menus.
>
> When I run this apps on the local graphics console of an SGI box, it works
> fine.
>
> Well, this problem is not connection type related (both ssh and
> telnet+xhost produce same results). Probably should I install something on
> the SGI boxes to translate DGL requests into the X11 protocol (rendered on
> the server side, but at least working) ?
>
> Any ideas are appreciated.
>
> David
>
>
>
> > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:43:13PM +0200, David Komanek wrote:
> > > Dear Harold,
> > >
> > > thank you for the reply. xdpyinfo shows that both named extensions are
> > > present. Is there some possibility to trace where is the problem (some
> > > debug mode for Xfree or so ?)
> > >
> > David,
> >
> > There is a sample program called 'glxgears' which will draw three
> > depth buffered rotating gears. If this works, you've got it all running.
> >
> > What's your application reporting ?
> >
> > Alan.
> >
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr  9 09:24:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 09:24:00 -0000
Subject: Just a note - nativegdi engine
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Rob,

> I've made serious progress, but I'm having trouble with two things.
>
> 1) The mouse - I'm not getting any WM_MOUSEMOVE messages to the app
> windows. Anyone seen this before?
> 2) I've broken fillspans for DRAWABLE_WINDOWs. I can fix it by drawing
> into the root window hdc always,
> but that's defeating the purpose - all we gain is the pretty task bar
> entries :[.
>
> 2) I'm working on, I suspect it's a coordinate translation thing. I get
> lovely background stipple but not (AFAICT solid fills).

Interesting... I'll say more when I have time to think about it (working
today).

> Creating a single combined clipping region using CombineRgn will allow
> you to move the for (iX= ..)loop from within the while (nbox--) loop,
> thus saving multiple selectClipRgn+deleteObject + bitblt calls, which
> may make the native engine quite a bit faster. I *will* do this
> optimisation here and elsewhere, but only after I get the fills working
> for 'native' windows first.

That's Alan's domain... I'll let him look into it.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Robert Collins
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:48 AM
> To: Cygwin-Xfree
> Subject: Just a note - nativegdi engine
>
>
> I've made serious progress, but I'm having trouble with two things.
>
> 1) The mouse - I'm not getting any WM_MOUSEMOVE messages to the app
> windows. Anyone seen this before?
> 2) I've broken fillspans for DRAWABLE_WINDOWs. I can fix it by drawing
> into the root window hdc always,
> but that's defeating the purpose - all we gain is the pretty task bar
> entries :[.
>
> 2) I'm working on, I suspect it's a coordinate translation thing. I get
> lovely background stipple but not (AFAICT solid fills).
>
> Anyway, the reason for the email:
>
> Harold:
> I thought you might like to see the little todo: I've added.
>
> Creating a single combined clipping region using CombineRgn will allow
> you to move the for (iX= ..)loop from within the while (nbox--) loop,
> thus saving multiple selectClipRgn+deleteObject + bitblt calls, which
> may make the native engine quite a bit faster. I *will* do this
> optimisation here and elsewhere, but only after I get the fills working
> for 'native' windows first.
>
> Rob
>
>               /* TODO: create a single commbined clipping region */
>               nbox = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pClip);
>               pbox = REGION_RECTS (pClip);
>               while (nbox--)
>                 {
>                   hrgn = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2,
> pbox->y2);
>                   SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdcMem, hrgn);
>                   DeleteObject (hrgn);
>                   hrgn = NULL;
>
>                   for (iX = fullX1; iX < fullX2; iX +=
> pStipple->drawable.width)
>                     {
>                       int width;
>
>                       if ((iX + pStipple->drawable.width) > fullX2)
>                         width = fullX2 - iX;
>                       else
>                         width = pStipple->drawable.width;
>
>                       BitBlt (pGCPriv->hdcMem,
>                               iX, fullY1,
>                               width, 1,
>                               hdcStipple,
>                               0,
>                               fullY1 % pStipple->drawable.height,
>                               g_copyROP[pGC->alu]);
>                     }
>
>                   pbox++;
>                 }


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr  9 09:54:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 09:54:00 -0000
Subject: Latest XFree86 CVS build failures?
Message-ID: 

Is anyone else getting a build failure from the latest XFree86 CVS tree?

I'm getting a problem where in the gcc command for building imake.exe the
defines DefaultGcc2i386Opt and GccWarningOptions don't get expanded out to
"-O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -Wpointer-arith".  There were several recent
changes to the imake files to allow better cross compiling... I'm wondering
if something got broken on Cygwin in the process?

Build log follows.

Harold




Building Release 6.6 of the X Window System.

I hope you checked the configuration parameters in ./config/cf
to see if you need to pass BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS.

Tue Apr  9 11:18:08  2002

cd ./config/imake && make - --unix -f Makefile.ini BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS=""
CC="gcc" clean
make[1]: Entering directory
`/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/imake'
rm -f ccimake imake.o imake
rm -f *.CKP *.ln *.BAK *.bak *.o core errs ,* *~ *.a tags TAGS make.log \#*
rm -f -r Makefile.proto Makefile Makefile.dep bootstrap
rm -f imakemdep_cpp.h
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/imake'
make - --unix Makefile.boot
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std'
cd ./config/imake && make - --unix -w -f Makefile.ini BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS=""
CC="gcc"
make[2]: Entering directory
`/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/imake'
making imake with BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS= and
CROSSCOMPILEFLAGS=-DCROSSCOMPILEDIR="" in config/imake
if [ -n "" ] ; then \
/cc -E `./ccimake` \
-DCROSSCOMPILE_CPP imakemdep.h > imakemdep_cpp.h; \
else touch imakemdep_cpp.h; fi
gcc -c  -O -I../../include -I../../imports/x11/include/X11 `./ccimake`
imake.c
gcc -o imake  -O -I../../include -I../../imports/x11/include/X11 imake.o
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/imake'
rm -f ./config/makedepend/Makefile.proto
./config/imake/imake -I./config/cf  -s ./config/makedepend/Makefile.proto -f
./config/makedepend/Imakefile -DTOPDIR=../.. -DCURDIR=./config/makedepend
cd ./config/makedepend && rm -f -r Makefile Makefile.dep makedepend *.o
bootstrap
cd ./config/makedepend && make -f Makefile.proto bootstrap
make[2]: Entering directory
`/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/makedepend'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `bootstrap'.
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/makedepend'
./config/imake/imake -I./config/cf  -s ./config/imake/Makefile.proto -f
./config/imake/Imakefile -DTOPDIR=../.. -DCURDIR=./config/imake -DBootStrap
cd ./config/imake && make -f Makefile.proto bootstrapdepend
make[2]: Entering directory
`/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/imake'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `bootstrapdepend'.
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/imake'
cd ./config/imake && make - --unix -w -f Makefile.ini BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS=""
CC="gcc" bootstrap
make[2]: Entering directory
`/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/imake'
+ mkdir bootstrap
mv *.o bootstrap
+ mv imake.exe bootstrap
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/imake'
cd ./config/imake && make -f Makefile.proto all
make[2]: Entering directory
`/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/imake'
gcc DefaultGcc2i386Opt
GccWarningOptions   -I../../include -I../../exports/include/X11  -I../.. -I.
./../exports/include   -D__i386__ -DWIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN -DX_LOCALE -D_X86_ -
DNO_TCP_H -D__CYGWIN__ -D_XOPEN_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_BSD_SOUR
CE -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -DNO_ALLOCA  -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO   
 -L/lib/automode.o -DCPP_PROGRAM="\"cpp\"" 	     -c -o imake.o imake.c
gcc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations
make[2]: *** [imake.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std/config/imake'
make[1]: *** [imake.bootstrap] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/Administrator/x-devel/build/std'
make: *** [World] Error 2


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Tue Apr  9 10:57:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 10:57:00 -0000
Subject: Latest XFree86 CVS build failures?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020409175708.GW11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 12:54:47PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
> Is anyone else getting a build failure from the latest XFree86 CVS tree?
> 
> I'm getting a problem where in the gcc command for building imake.exe the
> defines DefaultGcc2i386Opt and GccWarningOptions don't get expanded out to
> "-O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -Wpointer-arith".  There were several recent
> changes to the imake files to allow better cross compiling... I'm wondering
> if something got broken on Cygwin in the process?
> 
It looks like it broke somewhere Harold.

You need to define

#define HasGcc2 YES

in your cygwin.cf now.

Alan.


From jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk  Tue Apr  9 11:37:00 2002
From: jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk (Jeremy Wilkins)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 11:37:00 -0000
Subject: XDM: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake
Message-ID: <00cb01c1dff6$1c9525d0$0a00a8c0@bytenet>

Hi,

I'm trying to get X to connect to linux mandrake running in a virtual
machine (sadly I don't have access to multiple computers). I'm using the
command line
    Xwin -once -query linux -from nt

but X times out with the error XDM: too many retransmissions.

It seems that the linux box is refusing the XDMCP connection.

The archives and FAQ both state that I only need to change the [Xdmcp]
section in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc file to Enabled=true. Which I have
done. But still no luck, I've also tried modifying the settings for xdm,
setting the port to connect to as 177, and moving the /usr/bin/kdm program.

My Xaccess file should allow direct connections from any machines (that
seems to be the default setup).

Any thoughts?

Jeremy


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr  9 11:37:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 11:37:00 -0000
Subject: Latest XFree86 CVS build failures?
In-Reply-To: <20020409175708.GW11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: 

Interesting.  I tried it and it does indeed work.  I sure am glad that we
have a guru around here :)

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Alan Hourihane
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 1:57 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: Latest XFree86 CVS build failures?
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 12:54:47PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
> > Is anyone else getting a build failure from the latest XFree86 CVS tree?
> >
> > I'm getting a problem where in the gcc command for building
> imake.exe the
> > defines DefaultGcc2i386Opt and GccWarningOptions don't get
> expanded out to
> > "-O2 -fno-strength-reduce -Wall -Wpointer-arith".  There were
> several recent
> > changes to the imake files to allow better cross compiling...
> I'm wondering
> > if something got broken on Cygwin in the process?
> >
> It looks like it broke somewhere Harold.
>
> You need to define
>
> #define HasGcc2 YES
>
> in your cygwin.cf now.
>
> Alan.


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr  9 11:45:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 11:45:00 -0000
Subject: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake
In-Reply-To: <00cb01c1dff6$1c9525d0$0a00a8c0@bytenet>
Message-ID: 

Jeremy,

For starters, did you restart kdm after you changed the setting in kdmrc?

You should be able to leave out the -from parameer now.

Do you have multiple network cards in your NT machine, or token ring?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jeremy Wilkins
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 2:41 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: XDM: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to get X to connect to linux mandrake running in a virtual
> machine (sadly I don't have access to multiple computers). I'm using the
> command line
>     Xwin -once -query linux -from nt
> 
> but X times out with the error XDM: too many retransmissions.
> 
> It seems that the linux box is refusing the XDMCP connection.
> 
> The archives and FAQ both state that I only need to change the [Xdmcp]
> section in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc file to Enabled=true. Which I have
> done. But still no luck, I've also tried modifying the settings for xdm,
> setting the port to connect to as 177, and moving the 
> /usr/bin/kdm program.
> 
> My Xaccess file should allow direct connections from any machines (that
> seems to be the default setup).
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Jeremy
> 


From jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk  Tue Apr  9 12:09:00 2002
From: jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk (Jeremy Wilkins)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 12:09:00 -0000
Subject: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake
References: 
Message-ID: <00d901c1dffa$8bc69570$0a00a8c0@bytenet>

Hi,

Yeh, I've restarted both by changing run levels (down to 3, then back up to
5) and by restarting the virtual machine.

The networking on the nt box (the host machine) is complicated, theres a
physical network card, IP 192.168.0.10 not connected to anything with no
name, and a virtual network card for VMWare, IP 192.168.78.1, called nt in
the hosts file.

Jeremy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: "Jeremy Wilkins" ;

Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 7:45 PM
Subject: RE: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake


> Jeremy,
>
> For starters, did you restart kdm after you changed the setting in kdmrc?
>
> You should be able to leave out the -from parameer now.
>
> Do you have multiple network cards in your NT machine, or token ring?
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jeremy Wilkins
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 2:41 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: XDM: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to get X to connect to linux mandrake running in a virtual
> > machine (sadly I don't have access to multiple computers). I'm using the
> > command line
> >     Xwin -once -query linux -from nt
> >
> > but X times out with the error XDM: too many retransmissions.
> >
> > It seems that the linux box is refusing the XDMCP connection.
> >
> > The archives and FAQ both state that I only need to change the [Xdmcp]
> > section in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc file to Enabled=true. Which I
have
> > done. But still no luck, I've also tried modifying the settings for xdm,
> > setting the port to connect to as 177, and moving the
> > /usr/bin/kdm program.
> >
> > My Xaccess file should allow direct connections from any machines (that
> > seems to be the default setup).
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
>


From jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk  Tue Apr  9 12:11:00 2002
From: jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk (Jeremy Wilkins)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 12:11:00 -0000
Subject: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake
References: 
Message-ID: <00dd01c1dffa$eb8981c0$0a00a8c0@bytenet>

Hi,

Just thinking, I'm fairly sure the network is working happily, I can use ssh
with out problem, and run X apps on the linux box, displaying on the NT box.
I can even use launch cygwin X, ssh into the linux bottom, set DISPLAY and
run startkde, at which point KDE loads happily on the cygwin display, it's
just the XDMCP stuff thats not running.

Jeremy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: "Jeremy Wilkins" ;

Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 7:45 PM
Subject: RE: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake


> Jeremy,
>
> For starters, did you restart kdm after you changed the setting in kdmrc?
>
> You should be able to leave out the -from parameer now.
>
> Do you have multiple network cards in your NT machine, or token ring?
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jeremy Wilkins
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 2:41 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: XDM: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to get X to connect to linux mandrake running in a virtual
> > machine (sadly I don't have access to multiple computers). I'm using the
> > command line
> >     Xwin -once -query linux -from nt
> >
> > but X times out with the error XDM: too many retransmissions.
> >
> > It seems that the linux box is refusing the XDMCP connection.
> >
> > The archives and FAQ both state that I only need to change the [Xdmcp]
> > section in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc file to Enabled=true. Which I
have
> > done. But still no luck, I've also tried modifying the settings for xdm,
> > setting the port to connect to as 177, and moving the
> > /usr/bin/kdm program.
> >
> > My Xaccess file should allow direct connections from any machines (that
> > seems to be the default setup).
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
>


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From: health_n_wealth@comcast.net (health_n_wealth@comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 14:01:00 -0000
Subject: New Weight Loss Product
Message-ID: 



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From: health_n_wealth@comcast.net (health_n_wealth@comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 14:02:00 -0000
Subject: New Weight Loss Product
Message-ID: 



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From: health_n_wealth@comcast.net (health_n_wealth@comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 14:03:00 -0000
Subject: New Weight Loss Product
Message-ID: 



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From: health_n_wealth@comcast.net (health_n_wealth@comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 14:03:00 -0000
Subject: New Weight Loss Product
Message-ID: 



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From: health_n_wealth@comcast.net (health_n_wealth@comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 14:03:00 -0000
Subject: New Weight Loss Product
Message-ID: 



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From: health_n_wealth@comcast.net (health_n_wealth@comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 14:03:00 -0000
Subject: New Weight Loss Product
Message-ID: 



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From: health_n_wealth@comcast.net (health_n_wealth@comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 14:05:00 -0000
Subject: New Weight Loss Product
Message-ID: 



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From: health_n_wealth@comcast.net (health_n_wealth@comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 14:05:00 -0000
Subject: New Weight Loss Product
Message-ID: 



Dear cygwin-xfree@xfree86.cygwin.com,

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??	No Ephedra! No Ma Huang! No harmful stimulants!
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??	Preliminary results are better than those published by the weight loss leaders!
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??	Participants reporting successful weight loss where other programs failed!
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From elik@bhphotovideo.com  Tue Apr  9 14:53:00 2002
From: elik@bhphotovideo.com (Eli Kleinman)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 14:53:00 -0000
Subject: How do I change fonts in xfree86?
Message-ID: <3CB32B66.22789.49D41558@localhost>

Hi all

I am using my CDE form a Solaris box on my local PC by ruining 
xfree86 this is what I type
#xwin -noreset -screen 0 1152 864 -query "server ip" -from "my pc 
ip"
And the fonts that I get are bold.
How do I change the font size, bold, not bold, different font etc.

Please help
Thanks in advance
Eli


From dlee@managedobjects.com  Tue Apr  9 15:46:00 2002
From: dlee@managedobjects.com (Lee, David S.)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 15:46:00 -0000
Subject: some help with xWin
Message-ID: <3E89CD1EE5814142A6278A6F7077C3F6036F36@mailman2.mosol.com>


All -


I have succesfully installed cygwin/xfree and when attempting to use XWin
with XDM for solaris even using the -fp tcp/box:7100, I get a creen that is
grey with a X as the cursor.  Can anyone help on what I am doing wrong?  I
have attached 2 snapshots 


David S. Lee
Manager, Technical Operations

Managed Objects, Inc.
7925 Westpark Drive
McLean, VA 22102
Office: 703-208-3330
Cell:    415-250-6115



 <>  <> 


David S. Lee
Manager, Technical Operations

Managed Objects, Inc.
7925 Westpark Drive
McLean, VA 22102
Office: 703-208-3330
Cell:    415-250-6115

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From iburrell@znark.com  Tue Apr  9 16:49:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 16:49:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
References: <20020409001316.GE20382@redhat.com>  <20020409130227.GA2005@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3CB37DEB.3040409@znark.com>

Christopher Faylor wrote:
> 
> Yep, as Robert indicated, this has been possible for a while.
> 
> For Cygwin/XFree86, what I'd like to do is have you all come up with
> a few .tar.bz2 files which install into a /usr/X11R6,
> /etc/X11, etc.
> 

I repackaged the current .tgz files as .tar.bz2 files. I created a 
rudimentary setup.ini file and was able to install them with setup.exe 
from a local directory. I haven't yet created a proper hierarchy 
setup.hint files.

> The hierarchy would be something like:
> 
> xfree
>   base
>     setup.hint
>     XFree-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
>     XFree-4.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2
>   doc
>     setup.hint
>     XFree-doc-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
>   devel
>     setup.hint
>     XFree86-devel-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
>     XFree86-devel-4.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2
> 
> 

The packages I made were:

xfree-base-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (11MB; Xbin, Xman, Xlib, Xxserv, Xetc)
xfree-devel-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (595kB; Xprog)
xfree-doc-txt-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (1.3MB; Xdoc)
xfree-doc-html-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (905kB; Xhtml)
xfree-doc-ps-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (4.4MB; Xps)
xfree-fonts-100dpi-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (12MB; Xf100)
xfree-fonts-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (18MB; Xfnts, Xfscl, Xfenc; required)
xfree-fonts-cyrillic-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (364kB, Xfcyr)
xfree-xfs-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (202kB; Xfsrv)
xfree-xnest-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (1.1MB; Xnest)
xfree-xprt-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (791kB; Xprt)
xfree-xvfb-4.2.0.tar.bz2 (1.2MB; Xvfb)

Is it possible to have multiple packages in a subdirectory and 
setup.hint file? Or does each package needs its own directory? For a 
hierarchy, I was thinking: base, devel, doc, fonts, and progs (for the 
optional servers).

There are a couple of refinements that can be made to the repackaging. 
First, the 75dpi fonts make up the bulk (10MB) of the fonts package and 
aren't strictly required. They could be made their own package. The 
miscellaneous fonts could be folded into the base package so there is 
only one required package.

Second, move the man3 man pages into the devel package. Also, move the 
.a files in /usr/X11R6/lib into devel. That reduces the base package by 
a couple MB.

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Tue Apr  9 17:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 17:00:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Burrell [mailto:iburrell@znark.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:49 AM

> Is it possible to have multiple packages in a subdirectory and 
> setup.hint file? Or does each package needs its own directory? 

Each package needs it's own directory.

> For a 
> hierarchy, I was thinking: base, devel, doc, fonts, and progs 
> (for the 
> optional servers). 

I'm not clear not the hierarchy there - that reads like a list to me. 
You've got two clauses you can independently use to make a hierarchy and
package dependencies - category:(i.e. the devel tarball belongs in
XFree86 and in Devel) and requires: (i.e. the server package requires
the fonts and the programs and ...)

> There are a couple of refinements that can be made to the 
> repackaging. 
> First, the 75dpi fonts make up the bulk (10MB) of the fonts 
> package and 
> aren't strictly required. They could be made their own package. The 
> miscellaneous fonts could be folded into the base package so there is 
> only one required package.
> 
> Second, move the man3 man pages into the devel package. Also, 
> move the 
> .a files in /usr/X11R6/lib into devel. That reduces the base 
> package by 
> a couple MB.

Those refinements can be made at any point - there's no need to have it
perfect on first release. Setup.exe is quite capable of handling files
moving from one package to another now.

Rob


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Tue Apr  9 17:18:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 17:18:00 -0000
Subject: Just a note - nativegdi engine
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:57 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: Just a note - nativegdi engine
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:47:58AM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> > 2) I'm working on, I suspect it's a coordinate translation thing. I 
> > get lovely background stipple but not (AFAICT solid fills).
> > 
> Rob,
> 
> Take a look at wingc.c and set miTranslate to 0 (FALSE).

Already tried that :}. Does that intelligently translate - i.e. will
code for pixmaps be unaffected, and only window drawables get
translated/not translated?

Rob


From iburrell@znark.com  Tue Apr  9 17:56:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 17:56:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
References: 
Message-ID: <3CB38DC4.4090204@znark.com>

Robert Collins wrote:
> 
> I'm not clear not the hierarchy there - that reads like a list to me. 
> You've got two clauses you can independently use to make a hierarchy and
> package dependencies - category:(i.e. the devel tarball belongs in
> XFree86 and in Devel) and requires: (i.e. the server package requires
> the fonts and the programs and ...)
> 

That is a list of subdirectories. But it won't work since the each 
package needs its own subdirectory. A better hiearchy would use the 
components from the package names. Hopefully, multiple levels of 
subdirectories will work.

xfree:
   base:
     xfree-base-4.2.0.tar.bz2
   devel:
     xfree-devel-4.2.0.tar.bz2
   doc:
     html:
       xfree-doc-html-4.2.0.tar.bz2
     ps:
       xfree-doc-ps-4.2.0.tar.bz2
     txt:
       xfree-doc-txt-4.2.0.tar.bz2
   fonts:
     100dpi:
       xfree-fonts-100dpi-4.2.0.tar.bz2
     75dpi:
       xfree-fonts-75dpi-4.2.0.tar.bz2
     misc:
       xfree-fonts-misc-4.2.0.tar.bz2
   xfs:
     xfree-xfs-4.2.0.tar.bz2
   xnest:
     xfree-xnest-4.2.0.tar.bz2
   xprt:
     xfree-xprt-4.2.0.tar.bz2
   xvfb:
     xfree-xvfb-4.2.0.tar.bz2

> 
> Those refinements can be made at any point - there's no need to have it
> perfect on first release. Setup.exe is quite capable of handling files
> moving from one package to another now.
> 

They were simple changes to the script I wrote to repackage the 
distributed archives. I'll try to write proper setup.hint files for all 
the packages.

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Tue Apr  9 18:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:00:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Burrell [mailto:iburrell@znark.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:57 AM
> That is a list of subdirectories. But it won't work since the each 
> package needs its own subdirectory. A better hiearchy would use the 
> components from the package names. Hopefully, multiple levels of 
> subdirectories will work.
> 
> xfree:
>    base:
...
>    xvfb:
>      xfree-xvfb-4.2.0.tar.bz2

As a directory layout, that should be fine.
 
> > 
> > Those refinements can be made at any point - there's no 
> need to have it
> > perfect on first release. Setup.exe is quite capable of 
> handling files
> > moving from one package to another now.
> > 
> 
> They were simple changes to the script I wrote to repackage the 
> distributed archives. I'll try to write proper setup.hint 
> files for all 
> the packages.

Cool.

Rob


From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr  9 18:03:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:03:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <3CB38DC4.4090204@znark.com>
References:  <3CB38DC4.4090204@znark.com>
Message-ID: <20020410010316.GD23551@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 05:56:36PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
>Robert Collins wrote:
>>
>>I'm not clear not the hierarchy there - that reads like a list to me. 
>>You've got two clauses you can independently use to make a hierarchy and
>>package dependencies - category:(i.e. the devel tarball belongs in
>>XFree86 and in Devel) and requires: (i.e. the server package requires
>>the fonts and the programs and ...)
>>
>
>That is a list of subdirectories. But it won't work since the each 
>package needs its own subdirectory. A better hiearchy would use the 
>components from the package names. Hopefully, multiple levels of 
>subdirectories will work.
>
>xfree:
>  base:
>    xfree-base-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>  devel:
>    xfree-devel-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>  doc:
>    html:
>      xfree-doc-html-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>    ps:
>      xfree-doc-ps-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>    txt:
>      xfree-doc-txt-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>  fonts:
>    100dpi:
>      xfree-fonts-100dpi-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>    75dpi:
>      xfree-fonts-75dpi-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>    misc:
>      xfree-fonts-misc-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>  xfs:
>    xfree-xfs-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>  xnest:
>    xfree-xnest-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>  xprt:
>    xfree-xprt-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>  xvfb:
>    xfree-xvfb-4.2.0.tar.bz2
>
>>
>>Those refinements can be made at any point - there's no need to have it
>>perfect on first release. Setup.exe is quite capable of handling files
>>moving from one package to another now.
>>
>
>They were simple changes to the script I wrote to repackage the 
>distributed archives. I'll try to write proper setup.hint files for all 
>the packages.

There's no need to go into too much information in the ldesc, fwiw.
And, the sdesc field can be pretty brief, too, IMO.  If you have Red Hat
linux installed somewhere, you might be able to get some info from the
'rpm -q -i' command, applying it to various installed XFree86 packages.

Btw, should the directory be called xfree or xfree86 or XFree86?

I assume the category for this should be XFree86, right?

cgf


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Tue Apr  9 18:16:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:16:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
References:  <3CB38DC4.4090204@znark.com>
Message-ID: <3CB3925C.80806@ece.gatech.edu>



Ian Burrell wrote:


> That is a list of subdirectories. But it won't work since the each 
> package needs its own subdirectory. A better hiearchy would use the 
> components from the package names. Hopefully, multiple levels of 
> subdirectories will work.


Yep.  Subdirs work fine.  For instance, the following are *currently* in 
use:

cygwin/latest/ncurses/
cygwin/latest/ncurses/setup.hint
cygwin/latest/ncurses/ncurses-5.2-?.tar.bz2
cygwin/latest/ncurses/ncurses-5.2-?-src.tar.bz2
cygwin/latest/ncurses/libncurses5/
cygwin/latest/ncurses/libncurses5/setup.hint
cygwin/latest/ncurses/libncurses5/libncurses5-5.2-?.tar.bz2
cygwin/latest/ncurses/libncurses5/libncurses5-5.2-?.tar.bz2
cygwin/latest/ncurses/libncurses6/
cygwin/latest/ncurses/libncurses6/setup.hint
cygwin/latest/ncurses/libncurses6/libncurses6-5.2-?.tar.bz2
cygwin/latest/ncurses/libncurses6/libncurses6-5.2-?.tar.bz2

Also, see gettext/libintl, readline/libreadline, etc.

--Chuck



From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Tue Apr  9 18:22:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:22:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
References: 
Message-ID: <3CB393D6.4030405@ece.gatech.edu>



Robert Collins wrote:


>>They were simple changes to the script I wrote to repackage the 
>>distributed archives. I'll try to write proper setup.hint 
>>files for all 
>>the packages.
>>
> 
> Cool.


I'm unclear about how the -src packages (are/should be) handled, since 
there are a great many "binary" packages in XFree, but only a few 
original "source" packages.  In the past, when multiple "binary" 
packages are generated from a single "source" package, we've done the 
following:

ncurses-5.2-?-src.tar.bz2
   contains the actual src dist for ncurses/libncurses, with
   cygwin patches, build scripts, etc

However, building this -src generates two "binary" packages:
   ncurses-5.2-?.tar.bz2
   libncurses6-5.2-?.tar.bz2

So, we create an empty
   libncurses6-5.2-?-src.tar.bz2
that contains only a single README that says "go look over there, in 
ncurses-5.2-?-src.tar.bz2".

Now, this works, and upset/setup are happy (every binary package has a 
"src" package) but it is hackish, ugly, and a pain to maintain.  Is 
there a better solution?  (Or can we discard the psuedo-src packages 
without repurcussion?  Won't upset be upset by the "bin without src" 
problem?)

--Chuck




From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr  9 18:26:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:26:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <3CB393D6.4030405@ece.gatech.edu>
References:  <3CB393D6.4030405@ece.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <20020410012626.GI23551@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:22:30PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote:
>Now, this works, and upset/setup are happy (every binary package has a 
>"src" package) but it is hackish, ugly, and a pain to maintain.  Is 
>there a better solution?  (Or can we discard the psuedo-src packages 
>without repurcussion?  Won't upset be upset by the "bin without src" 
>problem?)

If it is upset I'll be upset.

It should be acceptable to have bin without source.

If it causes a problem, I'll fix it.

cgf


From iburrell@znark.com  Tue Apr  9 18:34:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:34:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
References: 
Message-ID: <3CB396A5.1070803@znark.com>

Is the script for building setup.ini files from a directory hierarchy 
available anywhere? I want to setup a test install directory with the 
full hierarchy and setup.hint files.

Also, I ran into a problem with the xfree-fonts-100dpi and 
xfree-fonts-75dpi packages. With a hand-generated setup.ini, they 
weren't being displayed. This might be because the last component starts 
with a number and something is confused about where the version starts. 
The lines in my setup.ini are:

@ xfree-fonts-100dpi
sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 100dpi fonts"
category: XFree86
requires: xfree-base
version: 4.2.0-1


@ xfree-fonts-75dpi
sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 75pi fonts"
category: XFree86
requires: xfree-base
version: 4.2.0-1


  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Tue Apr  9 18:43:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:43:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
References:  <3CB393D6.4030405@ece.gatech.edu> <20020410012626.GI23551@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3CB398DA.2010202@ece.gatech.edu>

Christopher Faylor wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:22:30PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote:
> 
>>Now, this works, and upset/setup are happy (every binary package has a 
>>"src" package) but it is hackish, ugly, and a pain to maintain.  Is 
>>there a better solution?  (Or can we discard the psuedo-src packages 
>>without repurcussion?  Won't upset be upset by the "bin without src" 
>>problem?)
>>
> 
> If it is upset I'll be upset.
> 
> It should be acceptable to have bin without source.
> 
> If it causes a problem, I'll fix it.


That's great.  (I'm not planning on needlessly changing my packages, but 
perhaps the next time they must be updated for other reasons, I'll drop 
the psuedo-src packages).

However, is there any way we can add to the setup/upset grammar an 
optional keyword like:

(within libncurses6's setup.hint)
    external-src: ncurses

which instructs upset to fill the setup.ini thus:

@ ncurses
sdesc: blah blah
ldesc: blah blah
category: Base Libs
requires: cygwin terminfo libncurses6
version: 5.2-8
install: latest/ncurses/ncurses-5.2-8.tar.bz2
source: latest/ncurses/ncurses-5.2-8-src.tar.bz2
[prev]
install: latest/ncurses/ncurses-5.2-7.tar.bz2
source: latest/ncurses/ncurses-5.2-7-src.tar.bz2

@libncurses6
sdesc: blah blah
ldesc: blah blah
category: Base Libs
requires: cygwin terminfo
version: 5.2-8
install: latest/ncurses/libncurses6/libncurses6-5.2-8.tar.bz2
source: latest/ncurses/ncurses-5.2-8-src.tar.bz2
[prev]
install: latest/ncurses/libncurses6/libncurses6-5.2-7.tar.bz2
source: latest/ncurses/ncurses-5.2-7-src.tar.bz2

e.g. keying off the version of libncurses, find the matching versioned 
-src package of whatever is specified in the external-src: field in 
libncurses6's setup.hint...

This would require conflict avoidance within setup.exe, too -- the src 
chkboxes for ncurses and libncurses6 should be tied together in this case...

Or is this just not worth worrying about?

--Chuck




From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr  9 18:47:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:47:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <3CB398DA.2010202@ece.gatech.edu>
References:  <3CB393D6.4030405@ece.gatech.edu> <20020410012626.GI23551@redhat.com> <3CB398DA.2010202@ece.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <20020410014703.GM23551@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:43:54PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote:
>>If it is upset I'll be upset.
>>
>>It should be acceptable to have bin without source.
>>
>>If it causes a problem, I'll fix it.
>
>That's great.  (I'm not planning on needlessly changing my packages, but 
>perhaps the next time they must be updated for other reasons, I'll drop 
>the psuedo-src packages).
>
>However, is there any way we can add to the setup/upset grammar an 
>optional keyword like:
>
>(within libncurses6's setup.hint)
>   external-src: ncurses
>
>This would require conflict avoidance within setup.exe, too -- the src 
>chkboxes for ncurses and libncurses6 should be tied together in this case...
>
>Or is this just not worth worrying about?

I like the idea as far as upset is concerned.  It would be easy to add.

However, maybe the setup.exe part would be hairy.

cgf


From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr  9 18:53:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:53:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <3CB396A5.1070803@znark.com>
References:  <3CB396A5.1070803@znark.com>
Message-ID: <20020410015334.GO23551@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 06:34:29PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
>Is the script for building setup.ini files from a directory hierarchy 
>available anywhere? I want to setup a test install directory with the 
>full hierarchy and setup.hint files.
>
>Also, I ran into a problem with the xfree-fonts-100dpi and 
>xfree-fonts-75dpi packages. With a hand-generated setup.ini, they 
>weren't being displayed. This might be because the last component starts 
>with a number and something is confused about where the version starts. 

Yes, a -75dpi part of a tar file will look like a version number.

Can you use an underscore instead?

Just to be clear, you shouldn't be including the '@ xfree-fonts-100dpi'
or the version: in the setup.hint.  Those are only needed if you are
overriding defaults.

cgf

>The lines in my setup.ini are:
>
>@ xfree-fonts-100dpi
>sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 100dpi fonts"
>category: XFree86
>requires: xfree-base
>version: 4.2.0-1
>
>
>@ xfree-fonts-75dpi
>sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 75pi fonts"
>category: XFree86
>requires: xfree-base
>version: 4.2.0-1
>
>
> - Ian
>
>-- 
>iburrell@znark.com
>http://www.znark.com/


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Tue Apr  9 19:07:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 19:07:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Wilson [mailto:cwilson@ece.gatech.edu] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 11:23 AM

> Now, this works, and upset/setup are happy (every binary 
> package has a 
> "src" package) but it is hackish, ugly, and a pain to maintain.  Is 
> there a better solution?  (Or can we discard the psuedo-src packages 
> without repurcussion?  Won't upset be upset by the "bin without src" 
> problem?)

Setup won't be. It won't allow the src box to be ticked unless it knows
of a src package details.

Rob


From iburrell@znark.com  Tue Apr  9 19:10:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 19:10:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
References:  <3CB396A5.1070803@znark.com> <20020410015334.GO23551@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3CB39F07.7030203@znark.com>

Christopher Faylor wrote:
> 
> Yes, a -75dpi part of a tar file will look like a version number.
> 
> Can you use an underscore instead?
> 

I could use an underscore. I got it to work by changing it to dpi75. 
Shouldn't the name in the setup.ini file override that version number 
parsing?

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Tue Apr  9 19:20:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 19:20:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
References:  <3CB396A5.1070803@znark.com> <20020410015334.GO23551@redhat.com> <3CB39F07.7030203@znark.com>
Message-ID: <3CB3A10A.5000301@ece.gatech.edu>

Ian Burrell wrote:

> Christopher Faylor wrote:
> 
>>
>> Yes, a -75dpi part of a tar file will look like a version number.
>>
>> Can you use an underscore instead?
>>
> 
> I could use an underscore. I got it to work by changing it to dpi75. 
> Shouldn't the name in the setup.ini file override that version number 
> parsing?


Yeah, but cygcheck.exe also needs to be able to, at minimum, parse the 
version string of a given package (cygcheck -c).  We're not yet at the 
point of requiring setup.ini for proper cygcheck operation (and cygcheck 
doesn't REALLY need to know about package dependencies and -src tarballs 
and category information....)

I don't think it's that big a deal to require cygwin packages to follow 
a parseable naming scheme; ours is pretty lenient...when it fails, it's 
not a terrible imposition to either change a '-' to a '_', or swap some 
digits and alphabetics within a -XXXX- word.

--Chuck



From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Tue Apr  9 19:23:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 19:23:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Wilson [mailto:cwilson@ece.gatech.edu] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 12:19 PM

> I don't think it's that big a deal to require cygwin packages 
> to follow 
> a parseable naming scheme; ours is pretty lenient...when it 
> fails, it's 
> not a terrible imposition to either change a '-' to a '_', or 
> swap some 
> digits and alphabetics within a -XXXX- word.

And package file names are not directly used by humans 99% of the time.
That's what setup + cygcheck + upset are for.

Rob


From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr  9 19:42:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 19:42:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <3CB39F07.7030203@znark.com>
References:  <3CB396A5.1070803@znark.com> <20020410015334.GO23551@redhat.com> <3CB39F07.7030203@znark.com>
Message-ID: <20020410024203.GX23551@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 07:10:15PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>Yes, a -75dpi part of a tar file will look like a version number.
>>
>>Can you use an underscore instead?
>
>I could use an underscore.  I got it to work by changing it to dpi75.
>Shouldn't the name in the setup.ini file override that version number
>parsing?

Name?  Do you mean version?  If you put a version in setup.hint it
is currently ignored.

If you try to use something like

curr: 4.2.0-1

I believe that may confuse the upset parser.

cgf


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Tue Apr  9 19:42:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 19:42:00 -0000
Subject: makeNativeRgn
Message-ID: 

Alan,
  this may be of use to you: It's the region optimisation I mentioned
before. It seems a little faster to me, which indicates that some
(most?) of the calls have mulitple clip regions. 

There's a little extra stuff for the rootless mode in win.h, but it
won't hurt to have that committed - if you're willing.

There is also some rootless stuff (the #if 1-else-end and #if
0-else-end's) in winsetsp and winfillsp, and that stuff should NOT go
into CVS, but I didn't want to corrupt the patch by hand removing. You
should be able to do it easily in your sandbox... (it's only 2-3 lines
to delete).

Index: win.h
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvsroot/xoncygwin/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/win.h,v
retrieving revision 1.1.1.1.2.2
diff -u -p -r1.1.1.1.2.2 win.h
--- win.h	5 Feb 2002 18:47:39 -0000	1.1.1.1.2.2
+++ win.h	10 Apr 2002 02:39:46 -0000
@@ -268,7 +268,8 @@ typedef Bool (*winHotKeyAltTabPtr)(Scree
 
 typedef struct
 {
-  DWORD			dwDummy;
+  HWND			hwnd;
+  HDC			hdc;
 } winPrivWinRec, *winPrivWinPtr;
 
 typedef struct
@@ -414,6 +415,7 @@ extern miPointerScreenFuncRec	g_winPoint
 extern DWORD			g_dwEvents;
 extern int			g_fdMessageQueue;
 extern int			g_iScreenPrivateIndex;
+extern int			g_iWindowPrivateIndex;
 extern int			g_iCmapPrivateIndex;
 extern int			g_iGCPrivateIndex;
 extern int			g_iPixmapPrivateIndex;
@@ -553,6 +555,8 @@ winBlockHandler (int nScreen,
 
 RegionPtr
 winPixmapToRegionNativeGDI (PixmapPtr pPix);
+HRGN
+makeNativeRgn (RegionPtr const pRegion);
 
 
 /*
Index: winclip.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvsroot/xoncygwin/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winclip.c,v
retrieving revision 1.1.1.1.2.1
diff -u -p -r1.1.1.1.2.1 winclip.c
--- winclip.c	7 Feb 2002 21:34:19 -0000	1.1.1.1.2.1
+++ winclip.c	10 Apr 2002 02:39:46 -0000
@@ -248,3 +248,33 @@ winPixmapToRegionNativeGDI (PixmapPtr pP
 #endif
   return(pReg);
 }
+
+HRGN
+makeNativeRgn (RegionPtr const pRegion)
+{
+  BoxPtr pbox;
+  int nbox;
+  HRGN rv;
+  nbox = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pRegion);
+  pbox = REGION_RECTS (pRegion);
+  rv = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2, pbox->y2);
+  --nbox;
+  ++pbox;
+  while (nbox--)
+    {
+      int combinerv;
+      HRGN tempRgn;
+      tempRgn = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2, pbox->y2);
+      combinerv = CombineRgn (rv, rv, tempRgn, RGN_OR);
+      if (combinerv == ERROR)
+	{
+	  ErrorF ("makeNativeRgn: Failed to create native region %u\n",
GetLastError());
+	  DeleteObject (rv);
+	  return NULL;
+	}
+      DeleteObject (tempRgn);
+      ++pbox;
+    }
+  return rv;
+}
+
Index: winsetsp.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvsroot/xoncygwin/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winsetsp.c,v
retrieving revision 1.1.1.1.2.8
diff -u -p -r1.1.1.1.2.8 winsetsp.c
--- winsetsp.c	19 Feb 2002 20:31:25 -0000	1.1.1.1.2.8
+++ winsetsp.c	10 Apr 2002 02:39:46 -0000
@@ -27,6 +27,7 @@
  *
  * Authors:	Harold L Hunt II
  * 		Alan Hourihane 
+ *		Robert Collins 
  */
 /* $XFree86: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winsetsp.c,v 1.6 2001/10/22
15:21:12 alanh Exp $ */
 
@@ -48,8 +49,6 @@ winSetSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDrawa
   HBITMAP		hbmpOrig = NULL;
   BITMAPINFO		bmi;
   HRGN			hrgn;
-  int			n;
-  BoxPtr	 	pbox;
 
   /* Branch on the drawable type */
   switch (pDrawable->type)
@@ -67,8 +66,6 @@ winSetSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDrawa
 
       while (iSpans--)
         {
-	  n = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pGC->pCompositeClip);
-	  pbox = REGION_RECTS (pGC->pCompositeClip);
 
 	  ZeroMemory (&bmi, sizeof (BITMAPINFO));
 	  bmi.bmiHeader.biSize = sizeof (BITMAPINFOHEADER);
@@ -85,14 +82,14 @@ winSetSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDrawa
       	      bmi.bmiColors[1].rgbGreen = 255;
       	      bmi.bmiColors[1].rgbRed = 255;
     	    }
-
-	  while (n--)
+	  
+	  hrgn = makeNativeRgn (pGC->pCompositeClip);
+	  if (hrgn)
 	    {
-	      hrgn = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2,
pbox->y2);
 	      SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdcMem, hrgn);
 	      DeleteObject (hrgn);
 	      hrgn = NULL;
-
+	      
 	      StretchDIBits (pGCPriv->hdcMem, 
 			     pPoints->x, pPoints->y,
 			     *piWidths, 1,
@@ -102,7 +99,6 @@ winSetSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDrawa
 			     (BITMAPINFO *) &bmi,
 			     DIB_RGB_COLORS,
 			     g_copyROP[pGC->alu]);
-	      pbox++;
 	    }
 
 	  pSrcs += PixmapBytePad (*piWidths, pDrawable->depth);
@@ -118,10 +114,18 @@ winSetSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDrawa
       break;
 
     case DRAWABLE_WINDOW:
+      {
+	HDC hdc;
+	WindowPtr pWin = (WindowPtr) pDrawable;
+	winPrivWinRec *pPrivWin;
+	pPrivWin = (winPrivWinRec
*)(pWin->devPrivates[g_iWindowPrivateIndex].ptr);
+#if 0
+        hdc = pPrivWin->hdc;
+#else
+        hdc = pGCPriv->hdc;
+#endif
       while (iSpans--)
         {
-	  n = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pGC->pCompositeClip);
-	  pbox = REGION_RECTS (pGC->pCompositeClip);
 
 	  ZeroMemory (&bmi, sizeof (BITMAPINFO));
 	  bmi.bmiHeader.biSize = sizeof (BITMAPINFOHEADER);
@@ -139,14 +143,14 @@ winSetSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDrawa
       	      bmi.bmiColors[1].rgbRed = 255;
     	    }
 
-	  while (n--)
+	  hrgn = makeNativeRgn (pGC->pCompositeClip);
+	  if (hrgn)
 	    {
-	      hrgn = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2,
pbox->y2);
-	      SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdc, hrgn);
+	      SelectClipRgn (hdc, hrgn);
 	      DeleteObject (hrgn);
 	      hrgn = NULL;
-
-	      StretchDIBits (pGCPriv->hdc, 
+	      
+	      StretchDIBits (hdc, 
 			     pPoints->x, pPoints->y,
 			     *piWidths, 1,
 			     0, 0,
@@ -155,7 +159,6 @@ winSetSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDrawa
 			     (BITMAPINFO *) &bmi,
 			     DIB_RGB_COLORS,
 			     g_copyROP[pGC->alu]);
-	      pbox++;
 	    }
 
 	  pSrcs += PixmapBytePad (*piWidths, pDrawable->depth);
@@ -164,7 +167,9 @@ winSetSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDrawa
         }
 
       /* Reset the clip region */
-      SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdc, NULL);
+      /* TODO: Restore a saved region */
+      SelectClipRgn (hdc, NULL);
+      }
       break;
 
     case UNDRAWABLE_WINDOW:
Index: winfillsp.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvsroot/xoncygwin/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winfillsp.c,v
retrieving revision 1.1.1.1.2.13
diff -u -p -r1.1.1.1.2.13 winfillsp.c
--- winfillsp.c	19 Feb 2002 20:31:24 -0000	1.1.1.1.2.13
+++ winfillsp.c	10 Apr 2002 02:39:46 -0000
@@ -143,21 +143,19 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	
 	      if (fullX1 >= fullX2)
 		continue;
-	
-	      nbox = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pClip);
-	      pbox = REGION_RECTS (pClip);
-	      while (nbox--)
+
+	      hrgn = makeNativeRgn (pClip);
+	      if (hrgn)
 		{
-	      	  hrgn = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2,
pbox->y2);
 		  SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdcMem, hrgn);
-		  DeleteObject (hrgn);
-		  hrgn = NULL;
+	    	  DeleteObject (hrgn);
+    		  hrgn = NULL;
 
-	      	  MoveToEx (pGCPriv->hdcMem, fullX1, fullY1, NULL);
-	      	  LineTo (pGCPriv->hdcMem, fullX2, fullY1);
-		  pbox++;
+		  MoveToEx (pGCPriv->hdcMem, fullX1, fullY1, NULL);
+		  LineTo (pGCPriv->hdcMem, fullX2, fullY1);
 		}
 	    }
+	    
 
           SetROP2 (pGCPriv->hdcMem, R2_COPYPEN);
 
@@ -258,24 +256,20 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	      if (fullX1 >= fullX2)
 		continue;
 	
-	      nbox = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pClip);
-	      pbox = REGION_RECTS (pClip);
- 	      while (nbox--)
-	        {
-	     	  hrgn = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2,
pbox->y2);
+	      hrgn = makeNativeRgn (pClip);
+	      if (hrgn)
+		{
 		  SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdcMem, hrgn);
 		  DeleteObject (hrgn);
 		  hrgn = NULL;
-
+		  
 		  for (iX = fullX1; iX < fullX2; iX +=
pStipple->drawable.width)
 		    {
 		      int width;
-
 		      if ((iX + pStipple->drawable.width) > fullX2)
 			width = fullX2 - iX;
 		      else
 			width = pStipple->drawable.width;
-
 		      BitBlt (pGCPriv->hdcMem,
 			      iX, fullY1,
 			      width, 1,
@@ -284,8 +278,6 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 			      fullY1 % pStipple->drawable.height,
 			      g_copyROP[pGC->alu]);
 		    }
-
-		  pbox++;
 		}
 	    }
 
@@ -333,25 +325,22 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	
 	      if (fullX1 >= fullX2)
 		continue;
-	
-	      nbox = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pClip);
-	      pbox = REGION_RECTS (pClip);
- 	      while (nbox--)
-	        {
-	     	  hrgn = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2,
pbox->y2);
+
+	      hrgn = makeNativeRgn (pClip);
+	      if (hrgn)
+		{
 		  SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdcMem, hrgn);
-	    	  DeleteObject (hrgn);
+		  DeleteObject (hrgn);
 		  hrgn = NULL;
 
-	    	  for (iX = fullX1; iX < fullX2; iX +=
pTile->drawable.width)
-	      	    {
+		  for (iX = fullX1; iX < fullX2; iX +=
pTile->drawable.width)
+		    {
 		      int width;
 
 		      if ((iX + pTile->drawable.width) > fullX2)
 			width = fullX2 - iX;
 		      else
 			width = pTile->drawable.width;
-
 		      BitBlt (pGCPriv->hdcMem,
 			      iX, fullY1,
 			      width, 1,
@@ -360,7 +349,6 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 			      fullY1 % pTile->drawable.height,
 			      g_copyROP[pGC->alu]);
 		    }
-		  pbox++;
 		}
 	    }
 
@@ -384,20 +372,36 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
       break;
       
     case DRAWABLE_WINDOW:
+      {
+	HDC hdc;
+	WindowPtr pWin = (WindowPtr) pDrawable;
+	winPrivWinRec *pPrivWin;
+	BoxPtr pBoundingBox;
+	pPrivWin = (winPrivWinRec
*)(pWin->devPrivates[g_iWindowPrivateIndex].ptr);
+	
+#if 0
+	hdc = pPrivWin->hdc;
+	/* Translating the GC is unreliable? */
+	pBoundingBox = REGION_EXTENTS ((pWin->winSize.pScreen),
&(pWin->winSize));
+/*	SetViewportOrgEx (hdc, pBoundingBox->x1, pBoundingBox->y1,
NULL);
+ */
+#else
+	hdc = pGCPriv->hdc;
+#endif
       /* Branch on fill style */
       switch (pGC->fillStyle)
 	{
 	case FillSolid:
 
-          ROP16 (pGCPriv->hdc, pGC->alu);
+          ROP16 (hdc, pGC->alu);
 
 	  if (pDrawable->depth == 1) 
 	    {
 	      if (pGC->fgPixel == 0)
-		hPenOrig = SelectObject (pGCPriv->hdc, 
+		hPenOrig = SelectObject (hdc, 
 					 GetStockObject (BLACK_PEN));
 	      else
-		hPenOrig = SelectObject (pGCPriv->hdc,
+		hPenOrig = SelectObject (hdc,
 					 GetStockObject (WHITE_PEN));
 	    } 
 	  else 
@@ -405,11 +409,12 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	      fg = pGC->fgPixel;
 	      TRANSLATE_COLOR (fg);
 	      hPen = CreatePen (PS_SOLID, 0, fg);
-	      hPenOrig = SelectObject (pGCPriv->hdc, hPen);
+	      hPenOrig = SelectObject (hdc, hPen);
 	    }
 
 	  while (iSpans--)
 	    {
+	      HRGN clipRegion;
 	      fullX1 = pPoints->x;
 	      fullY1 = pPoints->y;
 	      fullX2 = fullX1 + (int) *piWidths;
@@ -426,26 +431,23 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	
 	      if (fullX1 >= fullX2)
 		continue;
-	
-	      nbox = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pClip);
-	      pbox = REGION_RECTS (pClip);
-	      while (nbox--)
+
+	      hrgn = makeNativeRgn (pClip);
+	      if (hrgn)
 		{
-	      	  hrgn = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2,
pbox->y2);
-		  SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdc, hrgn);
+		  SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdcMem, hrgn);
 		  DeleteObject (hrgn);
 		  hrgn = NULL;
 
-	     	  MoveToEx (pGCPriv->hdc, fullX1, fullY1, NULL);
-	     	  LineTo (pGCPriv->hdc, fullX2, fullY1);
-		  pbox++;
+		  MoveToEx (hdc, fullX1, fullY1, NULL);
+		  LineTo (hdc, fullX2, fullY1);
 		}
 	    }
 
-          SetROP2 (pGCPriv->hdc, R2_COPYPEN);
+          SetROP2 (hdc, R2_COPYPEN);
 
 	  /* Give back the Brush */
-	  SelectObject (pGCPriv->hdc, hPenOrig);
+	  SelectObject (hdc, hPenOrig);
 
 	  if (pDrawable->depth != 1)
 	    DeleteObject (hPen);
@@ -465,7 +467,7 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 				    DIB_RGB_COLORS);
 
 	  /* Create a memory DC to hold the stipple */
-	  hdcStipple = CreateCompatibleDC (pGCPriv->hdc);
+	  hdcStipple = CreateCompatibleDC (hdc);
 
 	  /* Select the stipple bitmap into the stipple DC */
 	  hbmpOrigStipple = SelectObject (hdcStipple, hBitmap);
@@ -487,8 +489,8 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	   */
 	  if (pGC->bgPixel != -1 && pGC->fgPixel != -1) 
 	    {
-	      SetTextColor (pGCPriv->hdc, fg);
-	      SetBkColor (pGCPriv->hdc, bg);
+	      SetTextColor (hdc, fg);
+	      SetBkColor (hdc, bg);
 	      BitBlt (hdcStipple,
 		      0, 0,
 		      pStipple->drawable.width,
pStipple->drawable.height,
@@ -498,8 +500,8 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	    } 
 	  else if (pGC->bgPixel == -1) 
 	    {
-	      SetTextColor (pGCPriv->hdc, fg);
-	      SetBkMode (pGCPriv->hdc, TRANSPARENT);
+	      SetTextColor (hdc, fg);
+	      SetBkMode (hdc, TRANSPARENT);
 	      BitBlt (hdcStipple,
 		      0, 0,
 		      pStipple->drawable.width,
pStipple->drawable.height,
@@ -509,8 +511,8 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	    } 
 	  else if (pGC->fgPixel == -1) 
 	    {
-	      SetTextColor (pGCPriv->hdc, bg);
-	      SetBkMode (pGCPriv->hdc, TRANSPARENT);
+	      SetTextColor (hdc, bg);
+	      SetBkMode (hdc, TRANSPARENT);
 #if 0
 	      BitBlt (hdcStipple,
 		      0, 0,
@@ -539,26 +541,23 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	
 	      if (fullX1 >= fullX2)
 		continue;
-	
-	      nbox = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pClip);
-	      pbox = REGION_RECTS (pClip);
- 	      while (nbox--)
-	        {
-	     	  hrgn = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2,
pbox->y2);
-		  SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdc, hrgn);
+
+	      hrgn = makeNativeRgn (pClip);
+	      if (hrgn)
+		{
+		  /* TODO: should we intersect the clip region? */
+		  SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdcMem, hrgn);
 		  DeleteObject (hrgn);
 		  hrgn = NULL;
 
 		  for (iX = fullX1; iX < fullX2; iX +=
pStipple->drawable.width)
 		    {
 		      int width;
-
 		      if ((iX + pStipple->drawable.width) > fullX2)
 			width = fullX2 - iX;
 		      else
 			width = pStipple->drawable.width;
-
-		      BitBlt (pGCPriv->hdc,
+		      BitBlt (hdc,
 			      iX, fullY1,
 			      width, 1,
 			      hdcStipple,
@@ -566,8 +565,6 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 			      fullY1 % pStipple->drawable.height,
 			      g_copyROP[pGC->alu]);
 		    }
-
-		  pbox++;
 		}
 	    }
 
@@ -579,7 +576,7 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	  DeleteObject (hBitmap);
 
 	  /* Restore the background mode */
-	  SetBkMode (pGCPriv->hdc, OPAQUE);	  
+	  SetBkMode (hdc, OPAQUE);	  
 	  break;
 
 	case FillTiled:
@@ -611,26 +608,22 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	
 	      if (fullX1 >= fullX2)
 		continue;
-	
-	      nbox = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pClip);
-	      pbox = REGION_RECTS (pClip);
- 	      while (nbox--)
-	        {
-	     	  hrgn = CreateRectRgn (pbox->x1, pbox->y1, pbox->x2,
pbox->y2);
-		  SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdc, hrgn);
-	    	  DeleteObject (hrgn);
+
+	      hrgn = makeNativeRgn (pClip);
+	      if (hrgn)
+		{
+		  SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdcMem, hrgn);
+		  DeleteObject (hrgn);
 		  hrgn = NULL;
 
-	    	  for (iX = fullX1; iX < fullX2; iX +=
pTile->drawable.width)
-	      	    {
+		  for (iX = fullX1; iX < fullX2; iX +=
pTile->drawable.width)
+		    {
 		      int width;
-
 		      if ((iX + pTile->drawable.width) > fullX2)
 			width = fullX2 - iX;
 		      else
 			width = pTile->drawable.width;
-
-		      BitBlt (pGCPriv->hdc,
+		      BitBlt (hdc,
 			      iX, fullY1,
 			      width, 1,
 			      pGCPriv->hdcMem,
@@ -638,8 +631,6 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 			      fullY1 % pTile->drawable.height,
 			      g_copyROP[pGC->alu]);
 		    }
-
-		  pbox++;
 		}
 	    }
 
@@ -653,7 +644,9 @@ winFillSpansNativeGDI (DrawablePtr	pDraw
 	}
 
       /* Reset clip region */
-      SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdc, NULL);
+      /* TODO: restore saved region as opposed to a NULL region */
+      SelectClipRgn (hdc, NULL);
+      }
       break;
 
     case UNDRAWABLE_WINDOW:


From iburrell@znark.com  Tue Apr  9 19:50:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 19:50:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
References:  <3CB396A5.1070803@znark.com> <20020410015334.GO23551@redhat.com> <3CB39F07.7030203@znark.com> <20020410024203.GX23551@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3CB3A85C.90602@znark.com>

Christopher Faylor wrote:
> 
> Name?  Do you mean version?  If you put a version in setup.hint it
> is currently ignored.
> 

The name from the "@" line and the version header could be used to 
override the parsing of file names into name and version.

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr  9 20:00:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 20:00:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <3CB3A85C.90602@znark.com>
References:  <3CB396A5.1070803@znark.com> <20020410015334.GO23551@redhat.com> <3CB39F07.7030203@znark.com> <20020410024203.GX23551@redhat.com> <3CB3A85C.90602@znark.com>
Message-ID: <20020410030023.GB23551@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 07:50:04PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>Name?  Do you mean version?  If you put a version in setup.hint it is
>>currently ignored.
>
>The name from the "@" line and the version header could be used to
>override the parsing of file names into name and version.

No, the name doesn't override this, currently.

cgf


From iburrell@znark.com  Tue Apr  9 21:40:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 21:40:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
Message-ID: <3CB3C24E.9060803@znark.com>

I finished making some xfree packages. They are distributed binary 
archives repackaged as cygwin packages. I made a package directory that 
can be used with setup.exe from a local directory and over the network.

I changed my mind about the division of the packages I proposed. I got 
rid of the multiple doc and fonts packages cause I was having trouble 
with the naming and directories. Plus, I assumed the people would want 
to install them together. The packages are now:

xfree-base
xfree-devel
xfree-docs
xfree-fonts
xfree-xfs
xfree-xnest
xfree-xvfb
xfree-xprt

I don't have a machine that people can easily download the full files 
from. I can post the setup.* files and scripts I used to build the packages.

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr  9 22:34:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 22:34:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <3CB3C24E.9060803@znark.com>
References: <3CB3C24E.9060803@znark.com>
Message-ID: <20020410053447.GA15157@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:40:46PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
>I finished making some xfree packages. They are distributed binary 
>archives repackaged as cygwin packages. I made a package directory that 
>can be used with setup.exe from a local directory and over the network.
>
>I changed my mind about the division of the packages I proposed. I got 
>rid of the multiple doc and fonts packages cause I was having trouble 
>with the naming and directories. Plus, I assumed the people would want 
>to install them together. The packages are now:
>
>xfree-base
>xfree-devel
>xfree-docs
>xfree-fonts
>xfree-xfs
>xfree-xnest
>xfree-xvfb
>xfree-xprt
>
>I don't have a machine that people can easily download the full files 
>from. I can post the setup.* files and scripts I used to build the packages.

Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.

I think that these files should be called XFree86-base (or just
XFree86), etc.  The project is the Cygwin/XFree86 project and I
think the package names should reflect that.

cgf


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Tue Apr  9 22:35:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 22:35:00 -0000
Subject: makeNativeRgn
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Collins 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 12:42 PM
> To: Cygwin-Xfree
> Subject: makeNativeRgn
> 
> 
> Alan,
>   this may be of use to you: It's the region optimisation I 
> mentioned before. It seems a little faster to me, which 
> indicates that some
> (most?) of the calls have mulitple clip regions. 

There's more that can be done, like moving the clipboard selection
before the spans iteration, but the biggest improvement I've achieved so
far is making native Rgn's for the FILLTILED routine. I'll make a patch
for this once I clean a little other code in winfillsp.c up. The
background rendering is instantaneous with this for me.

Rob

in winclip.c (perhaps we need a winrgn.c? )
HRGN
makeNativeRgnFromSpans (int iSpans, DDXPointPtr pPoints, int *piWidths)
{
  HRGN rv;
  if (!iSpans)
    return NULL;
  rv = CreateRectRgn (pPoints->x, pPoints->y, pPoints->x + *piWidths,
pPoints->y
+1);
  ++pPoints;
  ++piWidths;
  while (iSpans--)
    {
      HRGN tempRgn;
      int combinerv;
      tempRgn = CreateRectRgn (pPoints->x, pPoints->y, pPoints->x +
*piWidths, p
Points->y+1);
      combinerv = CombineRgn (rv, rv, tempRgn, RGN_OR);
      if (combinerv == ERROR)
        {
          ErrorF ("makeNativeRgn: Failed to create native region %u\n",
GetLastE
rror());
          DeleteObject (rv);
          return NULL;
        }
      DeleteObject (tempRgn);
      ++pPoints;
      ++piWidths;
    }
  return rv;
}


and in winfillsp.c

        case FillTiled:
          hrgn = makeNativeRgn (pClip);
          if (hrgn)
            {
              HBRUSH aBrush,oldBrush;

              /* TODO: should we intersect the clip region? */
              SelectClipRgn (pGCPriv->hdcMem, hrgn);
              DeleteObject (hrgn);
              hrgn = NULL;

          /* Get a pixmap pointer from the tile pointer, and fetch
privates  */
          pTile = (PixmapPtr) pGC->tile.pixmap;
          pTilePriv = winGetPixmapPriv (pTile);

          /* create a brush */

          aBrush = CreatePatternBrush(pTilePriv->hBitmap);
          oldBrush = SelectObject (hdc, aBrush);

          hrgn = makeNativeRgnFromSpans (iSpans, pPoints,piWidths);
          if (hrgn)
            {
              PaintRgn (hdc, hrgn);
              DeleteObject (hrgn);
            }

          /* Cleanup */
          SelectObject (hdc, oldBrush);
          DeleteObject (aBrush);

            }
          break;


From joshualokken@attbi.com  Tue Apr  9 23:32:00 2002
From: joshualokken@attbi.com (Joshua Lokken)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 23:32:00 -0000
Subject: cygpng2.dll missing
Message-ID: <000501c1e122$ad2e60c0$dbf9e10c@churgeon>

Hello, all:

Cygwin is great so far!!

Question:  After installing KDE and all of the required stuff, when I
run kdeinit, I get an error message:
    The application was not started...cygpng2.dll was not
    found.  Reinstalling the application could solve this
    problem.

Which package installs this dll?  I first noticed the error after
installing kdelibs, and before installing kdebase.

Also, where does the kde startup script need to reside?


TIA,

@@@@@@@@@@@!!

Joshua Lokken
joshualokken@attbi.com


%%%%%%%%%%%%%!!



From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Tue Apr  9 23:53:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 23:53:00 -0000
Subject: clipping questions
Message-ID: 

In the span functions,
if pGc->CompositeClip has
(nbox = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pRegion)) == 0, what does that indicate?

Should we skip rendering the span? Grab 1 rect and hope we can read it?

Something else?

Rob


From janneke@gnu.org  Wed Apr 10 00:35:00 2002
From: janneke@gnu.org (Jan Nieuwenhuizen)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:35:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <20020410053447.GA15157@redhat.com> (Christopher Faylor's
 message of "Wed, 10 Apr 2002 01:34:47 -0400")
References: <3CB3C24E.9060803@znark.com> <20020410053447.GA15157@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Christopher Faylor  writes:

> I think that these files should be called XFree86-base (or just
> XFree86), etc.  The project is the Cygwin/XFree86 project and I
> think the package names should reflect that.

Oh no, please reconsider allowing capitals in package names?  You'll
set a precedent for teTeX, GUILE, MySQL etc.  I'd vote for xfree86.

Jan.

-- 
Jan Nieuwenhuizen  | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter
http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien       | http://www.lilypond.org


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Wed Apr 10 00:37:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:37:00 -0000
Subject: makeNativeRgn
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020410073753.GH11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 12:42:23PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> Alan,
>   this may be of use to you: It's the region optimisation I mentioned
> before. It seems a little faster to me, which indicates that some
> (most?) of the calls have mulitple clip regions. 
> 
Robert,

Thanks for the patch. I'll apply it.

Like I said though, I haven't even started at looking at optimizations
until the span functions are working correctly. So your gonna find
lots and lots of places that can be optimized.

Alan.


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Wed Apr 10 00:38:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:38:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
Message-ID: 

Setup is case insensitive to package names. I don't see any technical
issue either way.

Rob


From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Wed Apr 10 00:38:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:38:00 -0000
Subject: cygpng2.dll missing
In-Reply-To: <000501c1e122$ad2e60c0$dbf9e10c@churgeon>
Message-ID: <001d01c1e062$ac2e0b00$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf
> Of Joshua Lokken
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 8:33 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: cygpng2.dll missing
>
>
> Hello, all:
>
> Cygwin is great so far!!
>
> Question:  After installing KDE and all of the
> required stuff, when I
> run kdeinit, I get an error message:
>     The application was not started...cygpng2.dll was not
>     found.  Reinstalling the application could solve this
>     problem.
>
> Which package installs this dll?  I first noticed
> the error after
> installing kdelibs, and before installing kdebase.

Install the libpng package from the cygwin setup

> Also, where does the kde startup script need to reside?
>
The startup script "startkde" resides in /opt/kde2/bin. See
http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/faq.php#B12
for detailed instructions to start kde with startx

Regards
Ralf









From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Wed Apr 10 00:44:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:44:00 -0000
Subject: makeNativeRgn
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020410074419.GI11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 03:35:06PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> There's more that can be done, like moving the clipboard selection
> before the spans iteration, but the biggest improvement I've achieved so
> far is making native Rgn's for the FILLTILED routine. I'll make a patch
> for this once I clean a little other code in winfillsp.c up. The
> background rendering is instantaneous with this for me.
> 
O.k.

I'll hang off applying that other patch until you've done the above.

Can you send the patch as an attachment. At my end windows nicely
put in the good old =20 and =3D expansions into the last email.

Alan.


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Wed Apr 10 00:45:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:45:00 -0000
Subject: clipping questions
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020410074549.GJ11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 04:53:07PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> In the span functions,
> if pGc->CompositeClip has
> (nbox = REGION_NUM_RECTS (pRegion)) == 0, what does that indicate?
> 
> Should we skip rendering the span? Grab 1 rect and hope we can read it?
> 
> Something else?
> 
That would suggest to me no rendering and skip the span.

Alan.


From janneke@gnu.org  Wed Apr 10 00:47:00 2002
From: janneke@gnu.org (Jan Nieuwenhuizen)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:47:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To:  ("Robert
 Collins"'s message of "Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:38:00 +1000")
References: 
Message-ID: 

"Robert Collins"  writes:

> Setup is case insensitive to package names. I don't see any technical
> issue either way.

Me neither, I only see a social issue: it's just plain irritating for
people?

   tar xjf releases/mysTABTAB  ^U
   tar xjf releases/MyTABTAB  ^U

etc, aargh?  It's ever more annoying when you're using wget, and try
to guess the name.

Well, it's only a minor pain, and maybe it's just me.
   
Jan.
-- 
Jan Nieuwenhuizen  | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter
http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien       | http://www.lilypond.org


From edi@serbski-institut.de  Wed Apr 10 00:49:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:49:00 -0000
Subject: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake
In-Reply-To: <00dd01c1dffa$eb8981c0$0a00a8c0@bytenet>
References: 
	<00dd01c1dffa$eb8981c0$0a00a8c0@bytenet>
Message-ID: <20020410.094548.74727385.edi@serbski-institut.de>

From: "Jeremy Wilkins" 
Subject: Re: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 20:15:30 +0100

> Hi,
> 
> Just thinking, I'm fairly sure the network is working happily, I can use ssh
> with out problem, and run X apps on the linux box, displaying on the NT box.
> I can even use launch cygwin X, ssh into the linux bottom, set DISPLAY and
> run startkde, at which point KDE loads happily on the cygwin display, it's
> just the XDMCP stuff thats not running.

Have you tried with IP addresses instead of hostnames?

Edi


From edi@serbski-institut.de  Wed Apr 10 00:49:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:49:00 -0000
Subject: some help with xWin
In-Reply-To: <3E89CD1EE5814142A6278A6F7077C3F6036F36@mailman2.mosol.com>
References: <3E89CD1EE5814142A6278A6F7077C3F6036F36@mailman2.mosol.com>
Message-ID: <20020410.094704.41658217.edi@serbski-institut.de>

> I have succesfully installed cygwin/xfree and when attempting to use XWin
> with XDM for solaris even using the -fp tcp/box:7100, I get a creen that is
> grey with a X as the cursor.  Can anyone help on what I am doing wrong?  I
> have attached 2 snapshots 

Nothing wrong so far. Your X has started but you don't have a connection yet.
How are you starting XWin (which command line parameters)?

Edi


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Wed Apr 10 00:54:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:54:00 -0000
Subject: Just a note - nativegdi engine
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020410075450.GK11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 10:18:39AM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:57 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: Just a note - nativegdi engine
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:47:58AM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> > > 2) I'm working on, I suspect it's a coordinate translation thing. I 
> > > get lovely background stipple but not (AFAICT solid fills).
> > > 
> > Rob,
> > 
> > Take a look at wingc.c and set miTranslate to 0 (FALSE).
> 
> Already tried that :}. Does that intelligently translate - i.e. will
> code for pixmaps be unaffected, and only window drawables get
> translated/not translated?
> 
pDrawable->x, y should always be 0 on a pixmap. On a window they're
different, but I understand should be 0 too with that set.

Alan.


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Wed Apr 10 01:28:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 01:28:00 -0000
Subject: makeNativeRgn
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:44 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: makeNativeRgn
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 03:35:06PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> > There's more that can be done, like moving the clipboard selection 
> > before the spans iteration, but the biggest improvement 
> I've achieved 
> > so far is making native Rgn's for the FILLTILED routine. 
> I'll make a 
> > patch for this once I clean a little other code in 
> winfillsp.c up. The 
> > background rendering is instantaneous with this for me.
> > 
> O.k.
> 
> I'll hang off applying that other patch until you've done the above.
> 
> Can you send the patch as an attachment. At my end windows 
> nicely put in the good old =20 and =3D expansions into the last email.

Will do.

Rob


From jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk  Wed Apr 10 03:30:00 2002
From: jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk (Jeremy Wilkins)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 03:30:00 -0000
Subject: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake
References: <00cb01c1dff6$1c9525d0$0a00a8c0@bytenet> 
Message-ID: <001401c1e07b$4fcbcc80$0a00a8c0@bytenet>

Hi,

My Xaccess is set to allow any host to connect, looking through the settings
this would appear to be default under Linux Mandrake.

my xdm-config is set as it should be but, since I am using KDM I don't think
it gets used.

The KDM config file has Enabled=true in the [Xdmcp] section.

I've tried to connect using both IP's and hostnames, I was originally  using
IPs, thought this might be the problem so changed to use hostnames.

Help??

Jeb
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Baer" 
To: "Jeremy Wilkins" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake


> Jeremy..
>
> Are you trying to get the full desktop.. KDE or GNOME ??
> If you are.. you can try the fallowing command.. this is what I have been
> using the last year with no problems.. to a SuSE 7.3.. from other
linux's..
> cygwin..  cd boot- linux...(wich is great...)
>
> X -query host_name_of_destination {or IP }
> you can try the fallowing also....
>
> X -broadcast   <-this should bring up the first box on your sub..
>
> This is assuming you have already modified..
>
> your
>
> /etc/X11/xdm-config      their should be a "!" in front of
> DisplayManager.requestPort:   0
>       This should be the last entery in this file
>
> &
>
> /etc/X11/Xaccess
>
> you should remove the "#" from the fallowing line
>
> #*                             CHOOSER BROADCAST
> #bla bla bla....
> to be:
> *                             CHOOSER BROADCAST
> #bla bla bla....
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeremy Wilkins" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 2:40 PM
> Subject: XDM: too many retransmissions - with Linux Mandrake
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to get X to connect to linux mandrake running in a virtual
> > machine (sadly I don't have access to multiple computers). I'm using the
> > command line
> >     Xwin -once -query linux -from nt
> >
> > but X times out with the error XDM: too many retransmissions.
> >
> > It seems that the linux box is refusing the XDMCP connection.
> >
> > The archives and FAQ both state that I only need to change the [Xdmcp]
> > section in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc file to Enabled=true. Which I
have
> > done. But still no luck, I've also tried modifying the settings for xdm,
> > setting the port to connect to as 177, and moving the /usr/bin/kdm
> program.
> >
> > My Xaccess file should allow direct connections from any machines (that
> > seems to be the default setup).
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
> >
>



From dlee@managedobjects.com  Wed Apr 10 04:35:00 2002
From: dlee@managedobjects.com (Lee, David S.)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 04:35:00 -0000
Subject: some help with xWin
Message-ID: <3E89CD1EE5814142A6278A6F7077C3F6036F3A@mailman2.mosol.com>

Edi -

I am starting for Solaris using:

xwin -query solarix_box -fp tcp/solaris_box:7100

Thanks
David

-----Original Message-----
From: PD Dr. Edward Wornar [mailto:edi@serbski-institut.de]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 3:47 AM
To: dlee@managedobjects.com
Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: some help with xWin


> I have succesfully installed cygwin/xfree and when attempting to use XWin
> with XDM for solaris even using the -fp tcp/box:7100, I get a creen that
is
> grey with a X as the cursor.  Can anyone help on what I am doing wrong?  I
> have attached 2 snapshots 

Nothing wrong so far. Your X has started but you don't have a connection
yet.
How are you starting XWin (which command line parameters)?

Edi


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 10 04:51:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 04:51:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <20020410053447.GA15157@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Yes, we try to keep things regularized around here, so XFree86 is the way
that the package names need to be spelled.

Also, I request that you keep the XFree86-xserv package, as that will allow
us to realize the immediate benefit of being able to release the Test-**
server or updates to the stable server as small downloads that everyone can
keep up to date with.

Thanks for you great work,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:35 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com; cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: xfree packages
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:40:46PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
> >I finished making some xfree packages. They are distributed binary
> >archives repackaged as cygwin packages. I made a package directory that
> >can be used with setup.exe from a local directory and over the network.
> >
> >I changed my mind about the division of the packages I proposed. I got
> >rid of the multiple doc and fonts packages cause I was having trouble
> >with the naming and directories. Plus, I assumed the people would want
> >to install them together. The packages are now:
> >
> >xfree-base
> >xfree-devel
> >xfree-docs
> >xfree-fonts
> >xfree-xfs
> >xfree-xnest
> >xfree-xvfb
> >xfree-xprt
> >
> >I don't have a machine that people can easily download the full files
> >from. I can post the setup.* files and scripts I used to build
> the packages.
>
> Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
>
> I think that these files should be called XFree86-base (or just
> XFree86), etc.  The project is the Cygwin/XFree86 project and I
> think the package names should reflect that.
>
> cgf


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Wed Apr 10 05:36:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 05:36:00 -0000
Subject: makeNativeRgn
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020410123649.GN11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 06:28:11PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:44 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: makeNativeRgn
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 03:35:06PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> > > There's more that can be done, like moving the clipboard selection 
> > > before the spans iteration, but the biggest improvement 
> > I've achieved 
> > > so far is making native Rgn's for the FILLTILED routine. 
> > I'll make a 
> > > patch for this once I clean a little other code in 
> > winfillsp.c up. The 
> > > background rendering is instantaneous with this for me.
> > > 
> > O.k.
> > 
> > I'll hang off applying that other patch until you've done the above.
> > 
> > Can you send the patch as an attachment. At my end windows 
> > nicely put in the good old =20 and =3D expansions into the last email.
> 
> Will do.
> 
Actually Rob, don't worry about it. I've already implemented what
you've suggested.

Alan.


From earnie_boyd@yahoo.com  Wed Apr 10 05:59:00 2002
From: earnie_boyd@yahoo.com (Earnie Boyd)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 05:59:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
References: 
Message-ID: <3CB436DF.2939396D@yahoo.com>

Let's be real picky:

XFree86-xserv-major.minor-portrelease.tar.bz2 is what is required for
the binary release.
XFree86-xserv-major.minor-portrelease-src.tar.bz2 is what is required
for the source release.

I've used xserv only as an example scenario and I'm not picking on it
specifically.

Earnie.

Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> Yes, we try to keep things regularized around here, so XFree86 is the way
> that the package names need to be spelled.
> 
> Also, I request that you keep the XFree86-xserv package, as that will allow
> us to realize the immediate benefit of being able to release the Test-**
> server or updates to the stable server as small downloads that everyone can
> keep up to date with.
> 
> Thanks for you great work,
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:35 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com; cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: xfree packages
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:40:46PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
> > >I finished making some xfree packages. They are distributed binary
> > >archives repackaged as cygwin packages. I made a package directory that
> > >can be used with setup.exe from a local directory and over the network.
> > >
> > >I changed my mind about the division of the packages I proposed. I got
> > >rid of the multiple doc and fonts packages cause I was having trouble
> > >with the naming and directories. Plus, I assumed the people would want
> > >to install them together. The packages are now:
> > >
> > >xfree-base
> > >xfree-devel
> > >xfree-docs
> > >xfree-fonts
> > >xfree-xfs
> > >xfree-xnest
> > >xfree-xvfb
> > >xfree-xprt
> > >
> > >I don't have a machine that people can easily download the full files
> > >from. I can post the setup.* files and scripts I used to build
> > the packages.
> >
> > Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
> >
> > I think that these files should be called XFree86-base (or just
> > XFree86), etc.  The project is the Cygwin/XFree86 project and I
> > think the package names should reflect that.
> >
> > cgf

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From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Wed Apr 10 06:03:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 06:03:00 -0000
Subject: makeNativeRgn
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:37 PM

> > Will do.
> > 
> Actually Rob, don't worry about it. I've already implemented 
> what you've suggested.

Heh, the next version is nearly ready which is what the delay is. I'll
send in the patch anyway once I fix one last bug. You can use or not at
your discretion.

Rob


From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk  Wed Apr 10 06:08:00 2002
From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 06:08:00 -0000
Subject: makeNativeRgn
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020410130752.GO11083@fairlite.demon.co.uk>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 11:02:45PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:37 PM
> 
> > > Will do.
> > > 
> > Actually Rob, don't worry about it. I've already implemented 
> > what you've suggested.
> 
> Heh, the next version is nearly ready which is what the delay is. I'll
> send in the patch anyway once I fix one last bug. You can use or not at
> your discretion.
> 
No problem. Your help is appreciated.

I certainly don't get mega speedups that you've talked about. And I
wouldn't expect them from the span routines, so I don't know what your
seeing on your machine.

Alan.


From edi@serbski-institut.de  Wed Apr 10 06:23:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 06:23:00 -0000
Subject: some help with xWin
In-Reply-To: <3E89CD1EE5814142A6278A6F7077C3F6036F3A@mailman2.mosol.com>
References: <3E89CD1EE5814142A6278A6F7077C3F6036F3A@mailman2.mosol.com>
Message-ID: <20020410.152157.59677888.edi@serbski-institut.de>

From: "Lee, David S." 
Subject: RE: some help with xWin
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 07:34:55 -0400

> Edi -
> 
> I am starting for Solaris using:
> 
> xwin -query solarix_box -fp tcp/solaris_box:7100

You need at least

xwin -query solarix_box -from windows_box_or_ip
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Cheers

Edi


From Olivier.Crumeyrolle@univ-lehavre.fr  Wed Apr 10 07:40:00 2002
From: Olivier.Crumeyrolle@univ-lehavre.fr (Olivier Crumeyrolle)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 07:40:00 -0000
Subject: KiB MiB are not SI prefixes but IEC ones
Message-ID: <3CB44DD5.6D8EC54C@univ-lehavre.fr>

I can read on the page  http://cygwin.com/xfree/
"We are now using the SI prefixes  for binary files sizes, according to"



But according to this NIST  web page,
"It is important to recognize that the new prefixes for binary multiples
are not part of the
International System of Units (SI), the modern metric system. "


Yours,


O Crumeyrolle.



From elik@bhphotovideo.com  Wed Apr 10 09:43:00 2002
From: elik@bhphotovideo.com (Eli Kleinman)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 09:43:00 -0000
Subject: Please help in xFree86
Message-ID: <3CB43448.15594.4DDEC9FA@localhost>


I am using xwin to start a xdmc window (CDE) from my Solaris box
and it works perfect, but for some reason when I am trying to copy
with CTRL+INSERT or CTRL+C form cygwin to any windows
program, it doesn?t work. I don?t know if this is my problem or that
this is the way it works in cygwin-xfree86,
Please help
Thanks Eli



From dlee@managedobjects.com  Wed Apr 10 10:10:00 2002
From: dlee@managedobjects.com (Lee, David S.)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:10:00 -0000
Subject: Please help in xFree86
Message-ID: <3E89CD1EE5814142A6278A6F7077C3F6036F42@mailman2.mosol.com>

try usig xwinclip .. you can download this from the cygwin page.

-----Original Message-----
From: Eli Kleinman [mailto:elik@bhphotovideo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 12:47 PM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Please help in xFree86



I am using xwin to start a xdmc window (CDE) from my Solaris box 
and it works perfect, but for some reason when I am trying to copy 
with CTRL+INSERT or CTRL+C form cygwin to any windows 
program, it doesn't work. I don't know if this is my problem or that 
this is the way it works in cygwin-xfree86,
Please help
Thanks Eli


From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Wed Apr 10 10:12:00 2002
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:12:00 -0000
Subject: Window Manager Performance...
Message-ID: 

I've been using Cygwin/Xfree some some time now, and until recently, always 
ran the window manager as a local client (as is the case with the stock 
startxwin scripts).  I started out using twm, then moved on the fvwm2, and 
then most recently Lesstif's mwm.

However, a few days ago I ran the window manager off a remote machine with a 
command sequence something like this:

bash> XWin.exe &
(wait for server to finish starting up)
bash> xhost $remote_host
bash> rsh $remote_host xterm -display $local_host:0 &
bash> rsh $remote_host mwm   -display $local_host:0

[Note: $local_host is an IBM ThinkPad iSeries w/ 700MHz PIII + 256MB SDRAM 
running Win2k SP2; $remote_host is an IBM RS/6000 Model 170 running AIX4.3; 
network is 100BaseT Ethernet]

After doing this, I noticed a dramatic improvement in the "response" of X my 
session (e.g. typing seems to have less lag, movement of windows, scroll 
bars, etc. appears to be more "fluid").

I find it surprising that the additional communications overhead of running 
the window manager remotely is more than made up for by the fact that it's 
running in a "native" unix environment (vs. cygwin).

I'm curious if other people have had a similar experience.


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From david.w.dawson@lmco.com  Wed Apr 10 11:07:00 2002
From: david.w.dawson@lmco.com (Dawson, David W)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:07:00 -0000
Subject: Window Manager Performance...
Message-ID: <0C73AA5F720CD311AC2A0008C7DBA9B403BDF6F1@emss09m13.ems.lmco.com>

Well, I also used the lesstif mwm for a while and noticed (using the MS Task
Manager) that mwm was consuming an *extraordinary* amount of the CPU.  

When I first used lesstif, I compiled it all myself, and had no such
problems. That, however, was several versions of lesstif ago, and being the
lazy soul that I am, I now use the precompiled binaries.

I don't know if this is related to the manner in which the latest binaries
have been created, or if it is related to code changes in the version
upgrades.  I never pursued this, having moved on since to IceWM.

Good hunting....
	-D.
---------------------
David Dawson
david.w.dawson@lmco.com
703-367-3885


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Thomas Chadwick [SMTP:j_tetazoo@hotmail.com]
> Sent:	Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:12 PM
> To:	cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject:	Window Manager Performance...
> 
> I've been using Cygwin/Xfree some some time now, and until recently,
> always 
> ran the window manager as a local client (as is the case with the stock 
> startxwin scripts).  I started out using twm, then moved on the fvwm2, and
> 
> then most recently Lesstif's mwm.
> 
> However, a few days ago I ran the window manager off a remote machine with
> a 
> command sequence something like this:
> 
> bash> XWin.exe &
> (wait for server to finish starting up)
> bash> xhost $remote_host
> bash> rsh $remote_host xterm -display $local_host:0 &
> bash> rsh $remote_host mwm   -display $local_host:0
> 
> [Note: $local_host is an IBM ThinkPad iSeries w/ 700MHz PIII + 256MB SDRAM
> 
> running Win2k SP2; $remote_host is an IBM RS/6000 Model 170 running
> AIX4.3; 
> network is 100BaseT Ethernet]
> 
> After doing this, I noticed a dramatic improvement in the "response" of X
> my 
> session (e.g. typing seems to have less lag, movement of windows, scroll 
> bars, etc. appears to be more "fluid").
> 
> I find it surprising that the additional communications overhead of
> running 
> the window manager remotely is more than made up for by the fact that it's
> 
> running in a "native" unix environment (vs. cygwin).
> 
> I'm curious if other people have had a similar experience.
> 
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 10 11:10:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:10:00 -0000
Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Joan,

Don't forget to cc the list.

Your solution is interesting.

I wonder what the underlying problem is.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joan Bertran [mailto:jbertran@cirsa.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 8:40 AM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Subject: RE: kde 3.0 no icons
>
>
>   I have the same problem and i have found a workaround,
> just reducing the M$-windows color depth from 32 bit to 15 bits
> per pixel (it's the only high-color options on my driver) solves this
> and all icons are displayed fine.
>
> 		Joan Bertran.
>
>
> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00132.html
>     * From: "Harold Hunt" 
>     * To: "M Manohar" ,  cygwin dot com>
>     * Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 01:36:49 -0400
>     * Subject: RE: kde 3.0 no icons
>
> >
> > Manohar,
> >
> > I just logged into KDE3 via one of the computers in our campus
> labs today
> > (running 4.1.99 which is either some unknown test release or 4.1.0) and
> saw
> > the problem that you mentioned.  I noticed that two desktop
> icons show up
> >(one was the "Internet" icon for Konq) but no bottom-bar buttons
> showed up.
>
> > I'm not sure what causes the problem but at least now I have
> some sort of
> > test environment.
> > Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of M Manohar
> > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:42 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: RE: kde 3.0 no icons
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I recently installed KDE 3.0 on my linux box and have the same
> > problem, that is certain icons don't get displayed
> > on Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0 (version confirmed by running xdpyinfo).
> >
> > I poked around a little more and found that icons that are in PNG
> > format are the ones that
> > don't get displayed. I checked my Cygwin installation for
> > libpng.dll and it does exist
> > (I manually copied cygpng2.dll to libpng.dll). I'm not sure if
> > this library is required though.
> >
> > Hoping somebody can help me on this.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Manohar
> >
> > ----------------
> > Scott,
> >
> > That doesn't sound good.
> >
> > I haven't yet installed KDE 3.0 and I won't have time to for at
> > least a week,
> > so I won't have a chance to look into this for some time.
> >
> > I know you say that Cygwin/XFree86 is up-to-date, but are you running
> > Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0?  You can check by running 'xdpyinfo' in a local
> > Cygwin/XFree86 session or in a terminal when you are logged into another
> > machine via XDMCP.
> >
> > Awaiting a chance to investiage this,
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > Scott Alexander  said:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > My server has just been upgraded to kde 3.0 running redhat
> 7.2.  I use =
> > > cygwin with xfree86 to connect to this server using
> > >
> > > x -query 
> > >
> > > I have been doing this for a while with kde 2.2.2 with no problems.  =
> > > However when i connect to it now with kde 3 my screen has no
> icons or =
> > > icons on the kicker bar at the bottom. =20
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of this problem and a solution for it.
> > >
> > > My machine runs w2k with up 2 date cygwin and xfree86.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Scott Alexander
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 10 11:11:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:11:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <3CB436DF.2939396D@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

Earnie,

> Let's be real picky:
>
> XFree86-xserv-major.minor-portrelease.tar.bz2 is what is required for
> the binary release.
> XFree86-xserv-major.minor-portrelease-src.tar.bz2 is what is required
> for the source release.
>
> I've used xserv only as an example scenario and I'm not picking on it
> specifically.

That's pretty close, but XFree86 specifies three version number, so it would
actually have to be:

XFree86-xserv-major.minor.other-portrelease.tar.bz2

XFree86-xserv-major.minor.other-portrelease-src.tar.bz2

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Earnie Boyd [mailto:earnie_boyd@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 8:58 AM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: xfree packages
>
>
> Let's be real picky:
>
> XFree86-xserv-major.minor-portrelease.tar.bz2 is what is required for
> the binary release.
> XFree86-xserv-major.minor-portrelease-src.tar.bz2 is what is required
> for the source release.
>
> I've used xserv only as an example scenario and I'm not picking on it
> specifically.
>
> Earnie.
>
> Harold Hunt wrote:
> >
> > Yes, we try to keep things regularized around here, so XFree86
> is the way
> > that the package names need to be spelled.
> >
> > Also, I request that you keep the XFree86-xserv package, as
> that will allow
> > us to realize the immediate benefit of being able to release the Test-**
> > server or updates to the stable server as small downloads that
> everyone can
> > keep up to date with.
> >
> > Thanks for you great work,
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:35 AM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com; cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Re: xfree packages
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:40:46PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
> > > >I finished making some xfree packages. They are distributed binary
> > > >archives repackaged as cygwin packages. I made a package
> directory that
> > > >can be used with setup.exe from a local directory and over
> the network.
> > > >
> > > >I changed my mind about the division of the packages I
> proposed. I got
> > > >rid of the multiple doc and fonts packages cause I was having trouble
> > > >with the naming and directories. Plus, I assumed the people
> would want
> > > >to install them together. The packages are now:
> > > >
> > > >xfree-base
> > > >xfree-devel
> > > >xfree-docs
> > > >xfree-fonts
> > > >xfree-xfs
> > > >xfree-xnest
> > > >xfree-xvfb
> > > >xfree-xprt
> > > >
> > > >I don't have a machine that people can easily download the full files
> > > >from. I can post the setup.* files and scripts I used to build
> > > the packages.
> > >
> > > Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
> > >
> > > I think that these files should be called XFree86-base (or just
> > > XFree86), etc.  The project is the Cygwin/XFree86 project and I
> > > think the package names should reflect that.
> > >
> > > cgf
>
> _________________________________________________________
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 10 11:15:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:15:00 -0000
Subject: some help with xWin
In-Reply-To: <20020410.152157.59677888.edi@serbski-institut.de>
Message-ID: 

Edi,

Actually, you don't need the -from parameter anymore.  It usually doesn't
even help when you have multiple network card, if I recall correctly.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of PD Dr. Edward Wornar
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:22 AM
> To: dlee@managedobjects.com
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: some help with xWin
>
>
> From: "Lee, David S." 
> Subject: RE: some help with xWin
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 07:34:55 -0400
>
> > Edi -
> >
> > I am starting for Solaris using:
> >
> > xwin -query solarix_box -fp tcp/solaris_box:7100
>
> You need at least
>
> xwin -query solarix_box -from windows_box_or_ip
>                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Cheers
>
> Edi


From elik@bhphotovideo.com  Wed Apr 10 12:02:00 2002
From: elik@bhphotovideo.com (Eli Kleinman)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:02:00 -0000
Subject: help with xwinclip
Message-ID: <3CB454C1.2675.4E5DA1C9@localhost>


I download the xwinclip-Test03.exe.bz2 from cygwin-xFree86 web 
site, and installed it by bunzip2 and coping it to /usr/X11R6/bin 
Now I am trying to start it by running xwinclip.exe, first it gave me 
can not open DISPLAY so I set my DISPLAY to my local hosts 
(this is where I am currently running my xFree86 - CDE), but this is 
the error what I got.

$ export DISPLAY=192.9.200.136:0.0
$ xwinclip.exe -display 192.9.200.136:0.0
Xlib: connection to "192.9.200.136:0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

any help is appreciate
Eli


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Wed Apr 10 12:04:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:04:00 -0000
Subject: Window Manager Performance...
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Thomas Chadwick wrote:

> I find it surprising that the additional communications overhead of running 
> the window manager remotely is more than made up for by the fact that it's 
> running in a "native" unix environment (vs. cygwin).

There is no additional communication overhead. You have to send the data
packets from the Xserver to the windowmanager anyway. You might notice
a lag with very slow network connections (<10MBit, maybe <64kBit), but 
ethernet is fast enough to transport simple X communication.
X11 was developed when 10MBit was a high-end connection. 

On the other hand, you now have parallel processing. Machine A encodes
the protocol and machine B decodes it. Its faster than machine A en- and 
decodes.

bye
	ago 
-- 
 Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017


From dlee@managedobjects.com  Wed Apr 10 12:07:00 2002
From: dlee@managedobjects.com (Lee, David S.)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:07:00 -0000
Subject: help with xwinclip
Message-ID: <3E89CD1EE5814142A6278A6F7077C3F6036F4D@mailman2.mosol.com>

Eli -

You have to add it to your ./xinitrc file 

xwinclip.exe /B

or something like that

-----Original Message-----
From: Eli Kleinman [mailto:elik@bhphotovideo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 3:06 PM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: help with xwinclip



I download the xwinclip-Test03.exe.bz2 from cygwin-xFree86 web 
site, and installed it by bunzip2 and coping it to /usr/X11R6/bin 
Now I am trying to start it by running xwinclip.exe, first it gave me 
can not open DISPLAY so I set my DISPLAY to my local hosts 
(this is where I am currently running my xFree86 - CDE), but this is 
the error what I got.

$ export DISPLAY=192.9.200.136:0.0
$ xwinclip.exe -display 192.9.200.136:0.0
Xlib: connection to "192.9.200.136:0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

any help is appreciate
Eli


From nik@bates-haus.org  Wed Apr 10 12:17:00 2002
From: nik@bates-haus.org (Nikolaus Bates-Haus)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:17:00 -0000
Subject: help with xwinclip
In-Reply-To: <3CB454C1.2675.4E5DA1C9@localhost>
References: <3CB454C1.2675.4E5DA1C9@localhost>
Message-ID: <20020410191612.GA1212@rover.bates-haus.org>

If you set DISPLAY to an IP address, xwinclip tries to connect as a remote
client, and XFree is finicky about security.
Set DISPLAY to ":0.0" instead; this will connect as a local client instead,
so you won't get refused.

-nik

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 03:05:37PM -0400, Eli Kleinman wrote:
> 
> I download the xwinclip-Test03.exe.bz2 from cygwin-xFree86 web 
> site, and installed it by bunzip2 and coping it to /usr/X11R6/bin 
> Now I am trying to start it by running xwinclip.exe, first it gave me 
> can not open DISPLAY so I set my DISPLAY to my local hosts 
> (this is where I am currently running my xFree86 - CDE), but this is 
> the error what I got.
> 
> $ export DISPLAY=192.9.200.136:0.0
> $ xwinclip.exe -display 192.9.200.136:0.0
> Xlib: connection to "192.9.200.136:0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: No protocol specified
> 
> any help is appreciate
> Eli


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 10 13:14:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:14:00 -0000
Subject: KiB MiB are not SI prefixes but IEC ones
In-Reply-To: <3CB44DD5.6D8EC54C@univ-lehavre.fr>
Message-ID: 

Olivier,

I never thought someone would catch me on that one... but you are correct.
KiB and MiB are not SI prefixes, they are IEC prefices.  I changed the news
item accordingly.

Thanks,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Olivier Crumeyrolle
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:36 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: KiB MiB are not SI prefixes but IEC ones
>
>
> I can read on the page  http://cygwin.com/xfree/
> "We are now using the SI prefixes  for binary files sizes, according to"
>
> 
>
> But according to this NIST  web page,
> "It is important to recognize that the new prefixes for binary multiples
> are not part of the
> International System of Units (SI), the modern metric system. "
>
>
> Yours,
>
>
> O Crumeyrolle.
>
>


From edi@serbski-institut.de  Wed Apr 10 13:14:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:14:00 -0000
Subject: some help with xWin
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020410.152157.59677888.edi@serbski-institut.de>
	
Message-ID: <20020410.221354.74741647.edi@serbski-institut.de>

From: "Harold Hunt" 
Subject: RE: some help with xWin
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:15:09 -0400

> Edi,
> 
> Actually, you don't need the -from parameter anymore.  It usually doesn't
> even help when you have multiple network card, if I recall correctly.
> 

Thanks. But we're still running XFree 4.1 and therefore definitely
need it (and I'm not in a mood to upgrade 30 Windows boxes).

Edi


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 10 13:18:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:18:00 -0000
Subject: some help with xWin
In-Reply-To: <20020410.221354.74741647.edi@serbski-institut.de>
Message-ID: 

Edi,

That sounds reasonable.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of PD Dr. Edward Wornar
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 4:14 PM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Cc: dlee@managedobjects.com; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: some help with xWin
> 
> 
> From: "Harold Hunt" 
> Subject: RE: some help with xWin
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:15:09 -0400
> 
> > Edi,
> > 
> > Actually, you don't need the -from parameter anymore.  It 
> usually doesn't
> > even help when you have multiple network card, if I recall correctly.
> > 
> 
> Thanks. But we're still running XFree 4.1 and therefore definitely
> need it (and I'm not in a mood to upgrade 30 Windows boxes).
> 
> Edi
> 


From iburrell@znark.com  Wed Apr 10 13:22:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:22:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
References: <3CB3C24E.9060803@znark.com> <20020410053447.GA15157@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3CB49F1C.7000604@znark.com>

Christopher Faylor wrote:
> 
> Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
> 

Check out http://www.znark.com/cygwin/. It doesn't include the archive 
files; my web account doesn't have the bandwidth or quota for them. To 
generate the packages, download the *.tgz files from 
cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0


> I think that these files should be called XFree86-base (or just
> XFree86), etc.  The project is the Cygwin/XFree86 project and I
> think the package names should reflect that.
> 

I renamed all the packages to use xfree86 instead of xfree.

I couldn't get upset to work properly. I figured out that it needs a 
list of packages as input. If there is no version: line in setup.hint 
files, then the generated version is incorrect (xfree-base-4.2.0-1) for 
example. If I put it in the setup.hint files, no install: line is 
generated. I had to hand edit the generated setup.ini.

  - Ian

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From AndrewW@ViAir.com  Wed Apr 10 13:35:00 2002
From: AndrewW@ViAir.com (Andrew Wilson)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:35:00 -0000
Subject: Xmod.tgz?
Message-ID: 


 Hi all,
 
 My apologies for the wide broadcast of this question, but 
 this is the email address listed on the cygwin/xfree homepage.
 
 I just downloaded V4.2.0 of Xfree86 from the primary mirror, 
 but Xmod.tgz seems to be missing from the mirror, while 
 Xinstall.sh still expects the file to exist. I've checked a 
 few other mirrors at random (nas.nasa.gov/mirrors and 
 uiarchive.uiuc.edu) but it isn't on any of those mirrors 
 either. I've also noticed that Xmod.tgz is no longer 
 referenced by the user guide 
 (cygwin.com/xfree/docs/ug/setup-cygwin-xfree-downloading.html) either.

 Is Xinstall.sh out of date, or is Xmod.tgz missing?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 -atw
 


From iburrell@znark.com  Wed Apr 10 13:49:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:49:00 -0000
Subject: Xmod.tgz?
References: 
Message-ID: <3CB4A567.8090907@znark.com>

Andrew Wilson wrote:
>  
>  My apologies for the wide broadcast of this question, but 
>  this is the email address listed on the cygwin/xfree homepage.
>  
>  I just downloaded V4.2.0 of Xfree86 from the primary mirror, 
>  but Xmod.tgz seems to be missing from the mirror, while 
>  Xinstall.sh still expects the file to exist. I've checked a 
>  few other mirrors at random (nas.nasa.gov/mirrors and 
>  uiarchive.uiuc.edu) but it isn't on any of those mirrors 
>  either. I've also noticed that Xmod.tgz is no longer 
>  referenced by the user guide 
>  (cygwin.com/xfree/docs/ug/setup-cygwin-xfree-downloading.html) either.
> 
>  Is Xinstall.sh out of date, or is Xmod.tgz missing?
>  

Xmod.tgz shouldn't be used on Cygwin since it doesn't use modules. The 
Xinstall.sh script I have checks for Cygwin and removes Xmod.tgz from 
the files that need to be installed.

  - Ian

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From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Wed Apr 10 14:27:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:27:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
References: <3CB3C24E.9060803@znark.com> <20020410053447.GA15157@redhat.com> <3CB49F1C.7000604@znark.com>
Message-ID: <3CB4AE32.6000108@ece.gatech.edu>

Ian, Chris wants the setup hint files IN the mailing list archive 
permanently.  Not sitting on an external, subject-to-change website.

I've pasted them here.

--Chuck


--- xfree86-base ---
sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 base"
category: XFree86
requires: cygwin ash xfree86-fonts
ldesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 is a port of the X Window System to Cygwin. The
X server runs under Windows and displays X clients running on the
local or other machines. It can run in full screen and single window
modes.

This package contains the programs, libraries, and config files to run
the X server and other X clients. The xfree86-fonts package is also
required. The other packages contain headers, programs, and
documentation for development."


--- xfree86-devel ---
sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 development files"
category: XFree86
requires: xfree86-base
ldesc: "This package contains the libraries, headers, and man pages
for compiling X Windows programs."


--- xfree86-doc ---
sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 text documentation"
category: XFree86
ldesc: "XFree86 development documentation in text, HTML, and PostScript 
formats."

--- xfree86-fonts ---
sdesc: "Cygwin-XFree86 fonts"
category: XFree86
requires: xfree86-base
ldesc: "This package contains fonts for XFree86. It contains the
100dpi, 75dpi, misc, scaled, and cyrillic sets. This package is
required."


--- xfree86-xfs ---
sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 font server"
category: XFree86
requires: cygwin xfree86-base
version: 4.2.0-1
ldesc: "This package contains the font server for XFree86."


--- xfree86-xnest ---
sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 nested server"
category: XFree86
requires: cygwin xfree86-base
version: 4.2.0-1
ldesc: "Xnest is an X server that runs as a client for another X
server. It is used for testing X clients and servers."


--- xfree86-xprt ---
sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 printing server"
category: XFree86
requires: cygwin xfree86-base
version: 4.2.0-1
ldesc: "Xprt is an X server that prints the display to a PostScript file."


--- xfree86-xvfb ---
sdesc: "Cygwin-XFree86 virtual framebuffer server"
category: XFree86
requires: cygwin xfree86-base
version: 4.2.0-1
ldesc: "Xvfb is an X server that runs without any display using a
virtual framebuffer. This server runs without any display. It is used
for testing X clients and servers."







From iburrell@znark.com  Wed Apr 10 14:37:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:37:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
References: 
Message-ID: <3CB4B09C.1070606@znark.com>

Harold Hunt wrote:
> Yes, we try to keep things regularized around here, so XFree86 is the way
> that the package names need to be spelled.
> 
> Also, I request that you keep the XFree86-xserv package, as that will allow
> us to realize the immediate benefit of being able to release the Test-**
> server or updates to the stable server as small downloads that everyone can
> keep up to date with.
> 

Good idea. I'm going to call it xfree86-xwin though. I think I'll put 
the startup-scripts.tgz in this package.

  - Ian

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From elik@bhphotovideo.com  Wed Apr 10 14:43:00 2002
From: elik@bhphotovideo.com (Eli Kleinman)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:43:00 -0000
Subject: still having a problem with xwinclip 
Message-ID: <3CB47A88.1525.4EF134B8@localhost>

I tried setting DISPLAY to :0.0 but this did not solve my problem
this is what I use to start CDE
$ export DISPLAY=192.9.200.136:0.0
xwin -noreset -screen 0 1152 864 -query 192.9.200.6 -fp 
tcp/192.9.200.6:7100 -from 192.9.200.136 &
[1] 600

this is what I try to use to start xwinclip and this is what i get 
$ export DISPLAY=:0.0
$ xwinclip.exe
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

Could not open display

Could some one please help me


From iburrell@stanfordalumni.org  Wed Apr 10 14:47:00 2002
From: iburrell@stanfordalumni.org (Ian Burrell)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:47:00 -0000
Subject: still having a problem with xwinclip
References: <3CB47A88.1525.4EF134B8@localhost>
Message-ID: <3CB4B2CF.2090507@stanfordalumni.org>

Eli Kleinman wrote:
> I tried setting DISPLAY to :0.0 but this did not solve my problem
> this is what I use to start CDE
> $ export DISPLAY=192.9.200.136:0.0
> xwin -noreset -screen 0 1152 864 -query 192.9.200.6 -fp 
> tcp/192.9.200.6:7100 -from 192.9.200.136 &
> [1] 600
> 
> this is what I try to use to start xwinclip and this is what i get 
> $ export DISPLAY=:0.0
> $ xwinclip.exe
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: No protocol specified
> 
> Could not open display
> 
> Could some one please help me
> 

When you use -query, the X server doesn't allow connection from the 
local machine. I think it uses xauth cookies. You need to enable 
connections with xhost from an xterm running in the X server. Something 
like this should work:

xhost local:
xhost 

  - Ian





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From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 10 14:49:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:49:00 -0000
Subject: still having a problem with xwinclip 
In-Reply-To: <3CB47A88.1525.4EF134B8@localhost>
Message-ID: 

Eli,

xwinclip is going to have problems in your scenario because CDE owns the
display when you use XDMCP.  I think someone may have figured out how to use
xwinclip at the same time as an XDMCP session... you can search the mailing
list archives for an answer to that.

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Eli Kleinman
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:47 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: still having a problem with xwinclip
>
>
> I tried setting DISPLAY to :0.0 but this did not solve my problem
> this is what I use to start CDE
> $ export DISPLAY=192.9.200.136:0.0
> xwin -noreset -screen 0 1152 864 -query 192.9.200.6 -fp
> tcp/192.9.200.6:7100 -from 192.9.200.136 &
> [1] 600
>
> this is what I try to use to start xwinclip and this is what i get
> $ export DISPLAY=:0.0
> $ xwinclip.exe
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: No protocol specified
>
> Could not open display
>
> Could some one please help me


From iburrell@znark.com  Wed Apr 10 15:11:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 15:11:00 -0000
Subject: Close window with multiple screens exits server
Message-ID: <3CB4B877.8040507@znark.com>

I noticed unexpected behaviour when running with multiple screens in 
windowed mode. Closing one of the windows exits the server. A more 
expected behaviour would be to close that screen but leave the server 
running until all screens have been closed. Is there a way to close a 
screen while the server is running?

  - Ian

-- 
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http://www.znark.com/


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 10 15:13:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 15:13:00 -0000
Subject: Close window with multiple screens exits server
In-Reply-To: <3CB4B877.8040507@znark.com>
Message-ID: 

Ian,

That is the expected behavior.  It is, of course, possible to exit only when
all windows have been closed, but that hasn't been a request feature yet...
and no one has volunteered to write it.  I might give it a shot soon...

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ian Burrell
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 6:11 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Close window with multiple screens exits server
>
>
> I noticed unexpected behaviour when running with multiple screens in
> windowed mode. Closing one of the windows exits the server. A more
> expected behaviour would be to close that screen but leave the server
> running until all screens have been closed. Is there a way to close a
> screen while the server is running?
>
>   - Ian
>
> --
> iburrell@znark.com
> http://www.znark.com/
>


From iburrell@znark.com  Wed Apr 10 15:40:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 15:40:00 -0000
Subject: Installation of xkb files 
Message-ID: <3CB4BF49.6040605@znark.com>

There is some difference in how the xkb files are organized and I want 
it cleared up for the packages.

In the distributed archives and after running Xinstall.sh, the files are 
in /etc/X11/xkb, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb is a symlink to that, and 
/etc/X11/xkb/compiled is a broken symlink. The symlink looks like it was 
meant to be in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb.

With "make install", /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb contains the files, 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compile is a symlink to /etc/X11/xkb.

On Linux, the files are in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb, /etc/X11/xkb is a 
symlink to that, and /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb is a symlink to /var/lib/xkb.

Anyone understand what is going on. Has anyone used XKB and have a 
preference?

  - Ian

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From mmanohar@attbi.com  Wed Apr 10 17:16:00 2002
From: mmanohar@attbi.com (M Manohar)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:16:00 -0000
Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
Message-ID: <200204101705.42781.mmanohar@attbi.com>


Just tried this out, the solution works for me too.... thanks

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joan,

Don't forget to cc the list.

Your solution is interesting.

I wonder what the underlying problem is.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joan Bertran [mailto:jbertran@cirsa.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 8:40 AM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Subject: RE: kde 3.0 no icons
>
>
>   I have the same problem and i have found a workaround,
> just reducing the M$-windows color depth from 32 bit to 15 bits
> per pixel (it's the only high-color options on my driver) solves this
> and all icons are displayed fine.
>
>               Joan Bertran.
>
>
> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00132.html
>     * From: "Harold Hunt" 
>     * To: "M Manohar" ,  cygwin dot com>
>     * Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 01:36:49 -0400
>     * Subject: RE: kde 3.0 no icons
>
> >
> > Manohar,
> >
> > I just logged into KDE3 via one of the computers in our campus
> labs today
> > (running 4.1.99 which is either some unknown test release or 4.1.0) and
> saw
> > the problem that you mentioned.  I noticed that two desktop
> icons show up
> >(one was the "Internet" icon for Konq) but no bottom-bar buttons
> showed up.
>
> > I'm not sure what causes the problem but at least now I have
> some sort of
> > test environment.
> > Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of M Manohar
> > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:42 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: RE: kde 3.0 no icons
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I recently installed KDE 3.0 on my linux box and have the same
> > problem, that is certain icons don't get displayed
> > on Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0 (version confirmed by running xdpyinfo).
> >
> > I poked around a little more and found that icons that are in PNG
> > format are the ones that
> > don't get displayed. I checked my Cygwin installation for
> > libpng.dll and it does exist
> > (I manually copied cygpng2.dll to libpng.dll). I'm not sure if
> > this library is required though.
> >
> > Hoping somebody can help me on this.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Manohar
> >
> > ----------------
> > Scott,
> >
> > That doesn't sound good.
> >
> > I haven't yet installed KDE 3.0 and I won't have time to for at
> > least a week,
> > so I won't have a chance to look into this for some time.
> >
> > I know you say that Cygwin/XFree86 is up-to-date, but are you running
> > Cygwin/XFree86 4.2.0?  You can check by running 'xdpyinfo' in a local
> > Cygwin/XFree86 session or in a terminal when you are logged into another
> > machine via XDMCP.
> >
> > Awaiting a chance to investiage this,
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > Scott Alexander  said:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > My server has just been upgraded to kde 3.0 running redhat
> 7.2.  I use =
> > > cygwin with xfree86 to connect to this server using
> > >
> > > x -query 
> > >
> > > I have been doing this for a while with kde 2.2.2 with no problems.  =
> > > However when i connect to it now with kde 3 my screen has no
> icons or =
> > > icons on the kicker bar at the bottom. =20
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of this problem and a solution for it.
> > >
> > > My machine runs w2k with up 2 date cygwin and xfree86.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Scott Alexander
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>



From cgf@redhat.com  Wed Apr 10 17:29:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:29:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
Message-ID: <20020411002953.GA14903@redhat.com>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 09:47:31AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
>"Robert Collins"  writes:
>
>> Setup is case insensitive to package names. I don't see any technical
>> issue either way.
>
>Me neither, I only see a social issue: it's just plain irritating for
>people?
>
>   tar xjf releases/mysTABTAB  ^U
>   tar xjf releases/MyTABTAB  ^U
>
>etc, aargh?  It's ever more annoying when you're using wget, and try
>to guess the name.

I thought I'd replied to this but I guess I hadn't.

I really don't think we should use tab completion as a justification for
picking package names.  The package names should reflect what the
authors want to call the package.  If the name of the package is XFree86,
it should be called XFree86.  Ditto, TeX, or any other package.

AFAICT, both Red Hat and Debian allow upper/lower case, so there's no
reason for us to restrict things.

cgf


From lhall@rfk.com  Wed Apr 10 18:11:00 2002
From: lhall@rfk.com (Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc))
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 18:11:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <20020411002953.GA14903@redhat.com>
References: 
 
 
Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20020410210406.02315e10@pop.ma.ultranet.com>

At 08:29 PM 4/10/2002, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 09:47:31AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
> >"Robert Collins"  writes:
> >
> >> Setup is case insensitive to package names. I don't see any technical
> >> issue either way.
> >
> >Me neither, I only see a social issue: it's just plain irritating for
> >people?
> >
> >   tar xjf releases/mysTABTAB  ^U
> >   tar xjf releases/MyTABTAB  ^U
> >
> >etc, aargh?  It's ever more annoying when you're using wget, and try
> >to guess the name.
>
>I thought I'd replied to this but I guess I hadn't.
>
>I really don't think we should use tab completion as a justification for
>picking package names.  The package names should reflect what the
>authors want to call the package.  If the name of the package is XFree86,
>it should be called XFree86.  Ditto, TeX, or any other package.
>
>AFAICT, both Red Hat and Debian allow upper/lower case, so there's no
>reason for us to restrict things.


I went so far as to type a response and then trash it, since I thought it
was getting off-topic for this list.  But thinking again, it supports 
Chris's position, even though it has been mentioned many a time
on the Cygwin list.  I'm thinking of the 'completion-ignore-case' option
in bash.  Seems to me that this addresses the concern.  

I'm certainly all for mixed-case names.





Larry Hall                              lhall@rfk.com
RFK Partners, Inc.                      http://www.rfk.com
838 Washington Street                   (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office
Holliston, MA 01746                     (508) 893-9889 - FAX


From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz  Wed Apr 10 22:28:00 2002
From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz)
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 22:28:00 -0000
Subject: still having a problem with xwinclip
Message-ID: 


Hi

I used this in my start.bat:

@echo off
SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
SET PATH=d:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin;d:\cygwin\bin;d:\cygwin\usr\bin;%PATH%
start XWin -screen 0 1280 1024 -depth 32 -engine 4 -kb -query myAIXmachine
-fp tcp/myfontserver:7500 -fullscreen -once -ac
start /B xwinclip.exe

 and it worked, but there is another problem - when I use xwinclip such
way, it's impossible to logoff correctly and I have to shutdown XWin using
Alt-F4 key.
So I avoided using xwinclip.

Pavel



                                                                                                                          
                    "Harold Hunt"                                                                                         
                             To:     "Eli Kleinman" ,   
                    Sent by:                   cc:                                                                        
                    cygwin-xfree-owner@        Subject:     RE: still having a problem with xwinclip                      
                    cygwin.com                                                                                            
                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                          
                    10.04.2002 23:48                                                                                      
                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                          




Eli,

xwinclip is going to have problems in your scenario because CDE owns the
display when you use XDMCP.  I think someone may have figured out how to
use
xwinclip at the same time as an XDMCP session... you can search the mailing
list archives for an answer to that.

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Eli Kleinman
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:47 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: still having a problem with xwinclip
>
>
> I tried setting DISPLAY to :0.0 but this did not solve my problem
> this is what I use to start CDE
> $ export DISPLAY=192.9.200.136:0.0
> xwin -noreset -screen 0 1152 864 -query 192.9.200.6 -fp
> tcp/192.9.200.6:7100 -from 192.9.200.136 &
> [1] 600
>
> this is what I try to use to start xwinclip and this is what i get
> $ export DISPLAY=:0.0
> $ xwinclip.exe
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: No protocol specified
>
> Could not open display
>
> Could some one please help me





From darko.palic@gmx.de  Thu Apr 11 04:06:00 2002
From: darko.palic@gmx.de (Palic, Darko)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 04:06:00 -0000
Subject: still having a problem with xwinclip
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Hi,

could you please try to use:
start /B XWin -ac -screen ........
sleep 15 (or set a 'pause' and wait for about 15 Secs, now press any key)
start /B xwinclip.exe

best regards,
Darko Palic

>
> Hi
>
> I used this in my start.bat:
>
> @echo off
> SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
> SET PATH=d:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin;d:\cygwin\bin;d:\cygwin\usr\bin;%PATH%
> start XWin -screen 0 1280 1024 -depth 32 -engine 4 -kb -query myAIXmachine
> -fp tcp/myfontserver:7500 -fullscreen -once -ac
> start /B xwinclip.exe
>
>  and it worked, but there is another problem - when I use xwinclip such
> way, it's impossible to logoff correctly and I have to shutdown XWin using
> Alt-F4 key.
> So I avoided using xwinclip.
>
> Pavel
>
>
>
>
>
>                     "Harold Hunt"
>
>                              To:     "Eli
> Kleinman" , 
>                     Sent by:                   cc:
>
>                     cygwin-xfree-owner@        Subject:     RE:
> still having a problem with xwinclip
>                     cygwin.com
>
>
>
>
>
>                     10.04.2002 23:48
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Eli,
>
> xwinclip is going to have problems in your scenario because CDE owns the
> display when you use XDMCP.  I think someone may have figured out how to
> use
> xwinclip at the same time as an XDMCP session... you can search
> the mailing
> list archives for an answer to that.
>
> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Eli Kleinman
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:47 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: still having a problem with xwinclip
> >
> >
> > I tried setting DISPLAY to :0.0 but this did not solve my problem
> > this is what I use to start CDE
> > $ export DISPLAY=192.9.200.136:0.0
> > xwin -noreset -screen 0 1152 864 -query 192.9.200.6 -fp
> > tcp/192.9.200.6:7100 -from 192.9.200.136 &
> > [1] 600
> >
> > this is what I try to use to start xwinclip and this is what i get
> > $ export DISPLAY=:0.0
> > $ xwinclip.exe
> > Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> > Xlib: No protocol specified
> >
> > Could not open display
> >
> > Could some one please help me
>
>
>
>


From janneke@gnu.org  Thu Apr 11 04:08:00 2002
From: janneke@gnu.org (Jan Nieuwenhuizen)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 04:08:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <20020411002953.GA14903@redhat.com> (Christopher Faylor's
 message of "Wed, 10 Apr 2002 20:29:53 -0400")
References: 
	
	<20020411002953.GA14903@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Christopher Faylor  writes:

> AFAICT, both Red Hat and Debian allow upper/lower case, so there's no
> reason for us to restrict things.

All Debian packages are lower case, of course.  TAB completion is a
silly argument against using mixed case, but I just couldn't imagine
anyone would want mixed case package names, if they had a choice.
Probably a matter of taste, I'll try to get used to it :-)

Jan.

-- 
Jan Nieuwenhuizen  | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter
http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien       | http://www.lilypond.org


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Thu Apr 11 04:48:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 04:48:00 -0000
Subject: Installation of xkb files 
In-Reply-To: <3CB4BF49.6040605@znark.com>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Ian Burrell wrote:

> On Linux, the files are in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb, /etc/X11/xkb is a 
> symlink to that, and /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb is a symlink to /var/lib/xkb.

I'm using /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb for the xkb files. /etc/X11/xkb as a 
symlink to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb.  

xkbcomp itself uses /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb for the files.

bye
	ago
-- 
 Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr 11 05:54:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 05:54:00 -0000
Subject: fds_on_hold :o)
In-Reply-To: <004601c1e155$9093f550$6745a8c0@ALINEA.FR>
Message-ID: 

Nicolas,

A very good tip.  The error message doesn't show up when I use -xkb.  Now I
need to find out why.

Thanks,

Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: Escuder Nicolas [mailto:n.escuder@alineanet.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 8:37 AM
To: huntharo@msu.edu
Subject: fds_on_hold :o)


Hello

just start XWin with -kb option and konsole will work fine :)

see you

Nicolas


From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Thu Apr 11 08:39:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 08:39:00 -0000
Subject: Problems installing cygwin-xfree86 on a Dell WIN2K box
In-Reply-To: <200204111516.g3BFGdN1270631@mail.hiwaay.net>
References: <200204111516.g3BFGdN1270631@mail.hiwaay.net>
Message-ID: <20020411153944.GC11232@redhat.com>

Redirecting to the proper mailing list.

cgf

On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 10:17:28AM -0500, Dr. Lawrence Ward Spradley wrote:
>Sirs:
>
>	This is a (hopefully more illuminating) follow-up to a post from yesterday. 
>I am midstroke in installing cygwin-XFree86 on a Dell Win2000 box. As of 
>yesterday, I had followed the directions on the webpage detailing the 
>installation process verbatim. This meant that I had a limited cygwin install 
>(no vi, no grep, etc.). I have installed more of the tools as of this A.M. 
>and am able to provide more info on my status as of now. I attach the output 
>of "cygcheck -s -r -v" to describe my install as of now. I also looked 
>through the Xinstall.sh script to try to assess why it was stopping. It 
>appears to need a program called extract, which I think is part of the 
>XFree86 download. The script also contains comments about linking extract to 
>gnu-tar. I did an "ls -l" on my bin directory, which contains the extract 
>executable as well as the tar executable, & observed that they are different 
>(different sizes & date stamps). I want the XFree86 to be able to use rxvt as 
>a shell to begin with, but we will be possibly wanting to do more later. I am 
>still stuck in the XFree86 install with error messages from the Xinstall.sh 
>script complaining about the extract program being bad. Thanks in advance for 
>your time. I will be happy to provide any more info if needed.
>
>Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics
>Current System Time: Thu Apr 11 09:56:29 2002
>
>Windows 2000 Professional Ver 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1
>
>Path:	C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin
>	C:\cygwin\bin
>	C:\cygwin\bin
>	c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\Tools
>	c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\Msdev98\BIN
>	c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\DF98\BIN
>	c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\BIN
>	c:\WINNT\system32
>	c:\WINNT
>	c:\WINNT\System32\Wbem
>	c:\
>	c:\dell
>	c:\Program Files\Dell\Resolution Assistant\Common\bin
>	c:\TEC75\BIN
>	c:\ABSOFT\BIN
>
>SysDir: C:\WINNT\System32
>WinDir: C:\WINNT
>
>HOME = `c:\'
>MAKE_MODE = `unix'
>PWD = `/cygdrive/c/cygwin'
>USER = `lws'
>
>ABSOFT = `C:\ABSOFT'
>ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users'
>APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\Dr. Lawrence W. Spra\Application Data'
>COMMONPROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files\Common Files'
>COMPUTERNAME = `DELL'
>COMSPEC = `C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe'
>CPU = `i386'
>HOMEDRIVE = `C:'
>HOMEPATH = `\'
>INCLUDE = `C:\ABSOFT\CINCLUDE'
>LIB = `C:\ABSOFT\LIB'
>LINK_F90 = `imsl.lib imsls_err.lib imslmpistub.lib'
>LOGONSERVER = `\\DELL'
>MANPATH = `:/usr/ssl/man'
>NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1'
>OLDPWD = `/cygdrive/c/cygwin/tmp'
>OS2LIBPATH = `C:\WINNT\system32\os2\dll;'
>OS = `Windows_NT'
>PATHEXT = `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH'
>PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = `x86'
>PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 6, GenuineIntel'
>PROCESSOR_LEVEL = `6'
>PROCESSOR_REVISION = `0806'
>PROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files'
>PROMPT = `$P$G'
>PS1 = `\[\033]0;\w\007
>\033[32m\]\u@\h \[\033[33m\w\033[0m\]
>$ '
>SHLVL = `1'
>SYSTEMDRIVE = `C:'
>SYSTEMROOT = `C:\WINNT'
>TEC75HOME = `C:\TEC75'
>TEMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\DRLAWR~1.SPR\LOCALS~1\Temp'
>TERM = `cygwin'
>TMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\DRLAWR~1.SPR\LOCALS~1\Temp'
>TMPDIR = `c:\DOCUME~1\DRLAWR~1.SPR\LOCALS~1\Temp'
>USERDOMAIN = `DELL'
>USERNAME = `lws'
>USERPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\Dr. Lawrence W. Spra'
>VIM = `C:\PGI\cygusr\share\vim'
>VNI_F90_MSG = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\DF98\IMSL\MESSAGE'
>WINDIR = `C:\WINNT'
>_ = `/usr/bin/cygcheck.exe'
>
>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions
>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
>  (default) = `/cygdrive'
>  cygdrive flags = 0x00000022
>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options
>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup
>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0
>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts
>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\00
>  (default) = `C:'
>  unix = `/'
>  fbinary = 0x00000000
>  fsilent = 0x00000000
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/
>  (default) = `C:\cygwin'
>  flags = 0x0000000a
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/bin
>  (default) = `C:\cygwin/bin'
>  flags = 0x0000000a
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/lib
>  (default) = `C:\cygwin/lib'
>  flags = 0x0000000a
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\00
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\01
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\02
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\03
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\04
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\05
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\06
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\07
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\08
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\09
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0A
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0B
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0C
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0D
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0E
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0F
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\10
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\11
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\12
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\13
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\14
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\15
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\16
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\17
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\18
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\19
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\1A
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\1B
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\1C
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\1D
>
>a:  fd           N/A    N/A                    
>c:  hd  FAT32  57201Mb  32% CP    UN           
>d:  cd           N/A    N/A                    
>
>.              /cygdrive  user    binmode,noumount
>C:\cygwin      /          system  binmode
>C:\cygwin/bin  /usr/bin   system  binmode
>C:\cygwin/lib  /usr/lib   system  binmode
>
>Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe
>Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe
>Not Found: cpp (good!)
>Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe
>Not Found: gcc
>Not Found: gdb
>Not Found: ld
>Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe
>Not Found: make
>Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe
>Found: \bin\sh.exe
>Warning: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe hides \bin\sh.exe
>
>  390k 2001/01/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygtcl80.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/17 22:44
>    5k 2001/01/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>   10k 2001/01/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygtclreg80.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/17 22:44
>   19k 2002/02/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cyggdbm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/19 21:05
>   45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygform5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 0:28
>   26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygmenu5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 0:27
>  156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygncurses++5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 0:29
>  226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygncurses5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 0:17
>   15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygpanel5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 0:27
>   35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygform6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 0:03
>   20k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygmenu6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 0:03
>  175k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygncurses++6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 0:03
>  202k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygncurses6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 0:03
>   12k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygpanel6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 0:03
>   17k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cyghistory4.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/6 22:34
>  108k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygreadline4.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/6 22:34
>   20k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cyghistory5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/12 19:27
>  121k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygreadline5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/12 19:27
>   50k 2002/03/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygz.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/11 22:38
>   45k 2002/02/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygjbig1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/7 17:59
>  119k 2002/02/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygjpeg6b.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/8 23:19
>   22k 2001/12/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygintl-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/12/13 3:28
>  170k 2002/01/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygpng2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 19:05
>  621k 2002/01/16 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcrypto.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygcrypto.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/16 3:54
>  156k 2002/01/16 C:\cygwin\bin\cygssl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygssl.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/16 3:54
>   40k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcre.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygpcre.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 16:15
>   39k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcreposix.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygpcreposix.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 16:15
>  253k 2002/02/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygtiff3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/10 2:34
>  751k 2002/02/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
>                  "cygwin1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/25 10:14
>    Cygwin DLL version info:
>        DLL version: 1.3.10
>        DLL epoch: 19
>        DLL bad signal mask: 19005
>        DLL old termios: 5
>        DLL malloc env: 28
>        API major: 0
>        API minor: 51
>        Shared data: 3
>        DLL identifier: cygwin1
>        Mount registry: 2
>        Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions
>        Cygwin registry name: Cygwin
>        Program options name: Program Options
>        Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2
>        Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags
>        Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix
>        Cygdrive default prefix: 
>        Build date: Mon Feb 25 11:14:34 EST 2002
>        Shared id: cygwin1S3
>
>
>Cygwin Package Information
>Last downloaded files to: C:\cyginstall
>Last downloaded files from: ftp://archive.progeny.com/cygwin
>
>Package             Version             
>ash                 20020131-1          
>bash                2.05a-3             
>crypt               1.0-1               
>cygwin              1.3.10-1            
>diff                0.0                 
>ed                  0.2-1               
>expect              20010117-1          
>fileutils           4.1-1               
>findutils           4.1                 
>gawk                3.0.4-1             
>gdbm                1.8.0-4             
>grep                2.5-1               
>groff               1.17.2-1            
>gzip                1.3.2-1             
>jbigkit             1.2-6               
>jpeg                6b-7                
>less                374-1               
>libintl1            0.10.40-1           
>libncurses5         5.2-1               
>libncurses6         5.2-8               
>libpng2             1.0.12-1            
>libreadline4        4.1-2               
>libreadline5        4.2a-1              
>login               1.4-3               
>m4                  0.0                 
>man                 1.5g-2              
>more                2.11o-1             
>ncurses             5.2-8               
>newlib-man          20001118-1          
>opengl              1.1.0-6             
>openssl             0.9.6c-3            
>pcre                3.7-1               
>perl                5.6.1-2             
>readline            4.2a-1              
>rxvt                2.7.2-10            
>sed                 3.02-1              
>sh-utils            2.0-2               
>tar                 1.13.19-1           
>tcsh                6.11.00-4           
>termcap             20020403-1          
>terminfo            5.2-1               
>textutils           2.0.21-1            
>tiff                3.5.7-1             
>vim                 6.1-2               
>w32api              1.3-2               
>which               1.5-1               
>zlib                1.1.4-1             
>
>Use -h to see help about each section

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From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr 11 09:46:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 09:46:00 -0000
Subject: Problems installing cygwin-xfree86 on a Dell WIN2K box
In-Reply-To: <20020411153944.GC11232@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

If you read the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide instructions on installation
then you would know exactly what to do.

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:40 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Cc: cygwin@cygwin.com; lws@HiWAAY.net
> Subject: Re: Problems installing cygwin-xfree86 on a Dell WIN2K box
>
>
> Redirecting to the proper mailing list.
>
> cgf
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 10:17:28AM -0500, Dr. Lawrence Ward
> Spradley wrote:
> >Sirs:
> >
> >	This is a (hopefully more illuminating) follow-up to a post
> from yesterday.
> >I am midstroke in installing cygwin-XFree86 on a Dell Win2000 box. As of
> >yesterday, I had followed the directions on the webpage detailing the
> >installation process verbatim. This meant that I had a limited
> cygwin install
> >(no vi, no grep, etc.). I have installed more of the tools as of
> this A.M.
> >and am able to provide more info on my status as of now. I
> attach the output
> >of "cygcheck -s -r -v" to describe my install as of now. I also looked
> >through the Xinstall.sh script to try to assess why it was stopping. It
> >appears to need a program called extract, which I think is part of the
> >XFree86 download. The script also contains comments about
> linking extract to
> >gnu-tar. I did an "ls -l" on my bin directory, which contains
> the extract
> >executable as well as the tar executable, & observed that they
> are different
> >(different sizes & date stamps). I want the XFree86 to be able
> to use rxvt as
> >a shell to begin with, but we will be possibly wanting to do
> more later. I am
> >still stuck in the XFree86 install with error messages from the
> Xinstall.sh
> >script complaining about the extract program being bad. Thanks
> in advance for
> >your time. I will be happy to provide any more info if needed.
> >
> >Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics
> >Current System Time: Thu Apr 11 09:56:29 2002
> >
> >Windows 2000 Professional Ver 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1
> >
> >Path:	C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin
> >	C:\cygwin\bin
> >	C:\cygwin\bin
> >	c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\Tools
> >	c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\Msdev98\BIN
> >	c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\DF98\BIN
> >	c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\BIN
> >	c:\WINNT\system32
> >	c:\WINNT
> >	c:\WINNT\System32\Wbem
> >	c:\
> >	c:\dell
> >	c:\Program Files\Dell\Resolution Assistant\Common\bin
> >	c:\TEC75\BIN
> >	c:\ABSOFT\BIN
> >
> >SysDir: C:\WINNT\System32
> >WinDir: C:\WINNT
> >
> >HOME = `c:\'
> >MAKE_MODE = `unix'
> >PWD = `/cygdrive/c/cygwin'
> >USER = `lws'
> >
> >ABSOFT = `C:\ABSOFT'
> >ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users'
> >APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\Dr. Lawrence W.
> Spra\Application Data'
> >COMMONPROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files\Common Files'
> >COMPUTERNAME = `DELL'
> >COMSPEC = `C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe'
> >CPU = `i386'
> >HOMEDRIVE = `C:'
> >HOMEPATH = `\'
> >INCLUDE = `C:\ABSOFT\CINCLUDE'
> >LIB = `C:\ABSOFT\LIB'
> >LINK_F90 = `imsl.lib imsls_err.lib imslmpistub.lib'
> >LOGONSERVER = `\\DELL'
> >MANPATH = `:/usr/ssl/man'
> >NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1'
> >OLDPWD = `/cygdrive/c/cygwin/tmp'
> >OS2LIBPATH = `C:\WINNT\system32\os2\dll;'
> >OS = `Windows_NT'
> >PATHEXT = `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH'
> >PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = `x86'
> >PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 6, GenuineIntel'
> >PROCESSOR_LEVEL = `6'
> >PROCESSOR_REVISION = `0806'
> >PROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files'
> >PROMPT = `$P$G'
> >PS1 = `\[\033]0;\w\007
> >\033[32m\]\u@\h \[\033[33m\w\033[0m\]
> >$ '
> >SHLVL = `1'
> >SYSTEMDRIVE = `C:'
> >SYSTEMROOT = `C:\WINNT'
> >TEC75HOME = `C:\TEC75'
> >TEMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\DRLAWR~1.SPR\LOCALS~1\Temp'
> >TERM = `cygwin'
> >TMP = `c:\DOCUME~1\DRLAWR~1.SPR\LOCALS~1\Temp'
> >TMPDIR = `c:\DOCUME~1\DRLAWR~1.SPR\LOCALS~1\Temp'
> >USERDOMAIN = `DELL'
> >USERNAME = `lws'
> >USERPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\Dr. Lawrence W. Spra'
> >VIM = `C:\PGI\cygusr\share\vim'
> >VNI_F90_MSG = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual
> Studio\DF98\IMSL\MESSAGE'
> >WINDIR = `C:\WINNT'
> >_ = `/usr/bin/cygcheck.exe'
> >
> >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions
> >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
> >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
> >  (default) = `/cygdrive'
> >  cygdrive flags = 0x00000022
> >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options
> >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup
> >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0
> >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts
> >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\00
> >  (default) = `C:'
> >  unix = `/'
> >  fbinary = 0x00000000
> >  fsilent = 0x00000000
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/
> >  (default) = `C:\cygwin'
> >  flags = 0x0000000a
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/bin
> >  (default) = `C:\cygwin/bin'
> >  flags = 0x0000000a
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/lib
> >  (default) = `C:\cygwin/lib'
> >  flags = 0x0000000a
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\00
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\01
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\02
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\03
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\04
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\05
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\06
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\07
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\08
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\09
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\0A
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\0B
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\0C
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\0D
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\0E
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\0F
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\10
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\11
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\12
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\13
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\14
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\15
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\16
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\17
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\18
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\19
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\1A
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\1B
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\1C
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL
> setup\b15.0\mounts\1D
> >
> >a:  fd           N/A    N/A
> >c:  hd  FAT32  57201Mb  32% CP    UN
> >d:  cd           N/A    N/A
> >
> >.              /cygdrive  user    binmode,noumount
> >C:\cygwin      /          system  binmode
> >C:\cygwin/bin  /usr/bin   system  binmode
> >C:\cygwin/lib  /usr/lib   system  binmode
> >
> >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe
> >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe
> >Not Found: cpp (good!)
> >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\find.exe
> >Not Found: gcc
> >Not Found: gdb
> >Not Found: ld
> >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe
> >Not Found: make
> >Found: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe
> >Found: \bin\sh.exe
> >Warning: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe hides \bin\sh.exe
> >
> >  390k 2001/01/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygtcl80.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/17 22:44
> >    5k 2001/01/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >   10k 2001/01/18 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygtclreg80.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/17 22:44
> >   19k 2002/02/20 C:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cyggdbm.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/19 21:05
> >   45k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygform5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 0:28
> >   26k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygmenu5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 0:27
> >  156k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll - os=4.0
> img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygncurses++5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 0:29
> >  226k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygncurses5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 0:17
> >   15k 2001/04/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygpanel5.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/4/25 0:27
> >   35k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygform6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 0:03
> >   20k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygmenu6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 0:03
> >  175k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll - os=4.0
> img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygncurses++6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 0:03
> >  202k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygncurses6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 0:03
> >   12k 2002/01/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel6.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygpanel6.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/9 0:03
> >   17k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cyghistory4.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/6 22:34
> >  108k 2001/06/28 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline4.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygreadline4.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/1/6 22:34
> >   20k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cyghistory5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/12 19:27
> >  121k 2002/01/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline5.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygreadline5.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/12 19:27
> >   50k 2002/03/12 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygz.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/3/11 22:38
> >   45k 2002/02/08 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygjbig1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/7 17:59
> >  119k 2002/02/09 C:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygjpeg6b.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/8 23:19
> >   22k 2001/12/13 C:\cygwin\bin\cygintl-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygintl-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/12/13 3:28
> >  170k 2002/01/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygpng2.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/20 19:05
> >  621k 2002/01/16 C:\cygwin\bin\cygcrypto.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygcrypto.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/16 3:54
> >  156k 2002/01/16 C:\cygwin\bin\cygssl.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygssl.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/1/16 3:54
> >   40k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcre.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygpcre.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 16:15
> >   39k 2001/11/21 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpcreposix.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygpcreposix.dll" v0.0 ts=2001/11/21 16:15
> >  253k 2002/02/10 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygtiff3.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/10 2:34
> >  751k 2002/02/25 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=4.0
> >                  "cygwin1.dll" v0.0 ts=2002/2/25 10:14
> >    Cygwin DLL version info:
> >        DLL version: 1.3.10
> >        DLL epoch: 19
> >        DLL bad signal mask: 19005
> >        DLL old termios: 5
> >        DLL malloc env: 28
> >        API major: 0
> >        API minor: 51
> >        Shared data: 3
> >        DLL identifier: cygwin1
> >        Mount registry: 2
> >        Cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions
> >        Cygwin registry name: Cygwin
> >        Program options name: Program Options
> >        Cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2
> >        Cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags
> >        Cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix
> >        Cygdrive default prefix:
> >        Build date: Mon Feb 25 11:14:34 EST 2002
> >        Shared id: cygwin1S3
> >
> >
> >Cygwin Package Information
> >Last downloaded files to: C:\cyginstall
> >Last downloaded files from: ftp://archive.progeny.com/cygwin
> >
> >Package             Version
> >ash                 20020131-1
> >bash                2.05a-3
> >crypt               1.0-1
> >cygwin              1.3.10-1
> >diff                0.0
> >ed                  0.2-1
> >expect              20010117-1
> >fileutils           4.1-1
> >findutils           4.1
> >gawk                3.0.4-1
> >gdbm                1.8.0-4
> >grep                2.5-1
> >groff               1.17.2-1
> >gzip                1.3.2-1
> >jbigkit             1.2-6
> >jpeg                6b-7
> >less                374-1
> >libintl1            0.10.40-1
> >libncurses5         5.2-1
> >libncurses6         5.2-8
> >libpng2             1.0.12-1
> >libreadline4        4.1-2
> >libreadline5        4.2a-1
> >login               1.4-3
> >m4                  0.0
> >man                 1.5g-2
> >more                2.11o-1
> >ncurses             5.2-8
> >newlib-man          20001118-1
> >opengl              1.1.0-6
> >openssl             0.9.6c-3
> >pcre                3.7-1
> >perl                5.6.1-2
> >readline            4.2a-1
> >rxvt                2.7.2-10
> >sed                 3.02-1
> >sh-utils            2.0-2
> >tar                 1.13.19-1
> >tcsh                6.11.00-4
> >termcap             20020403-1
> >terminfo            5.2-1
> >textutils           2.0.21-1
> >tiff                3.5.7-1
> >vim                 6.1-2
> >w32api              1.3-2
> >which               1.5-1
> >zlib                1.1.4-1
> >
> >Use -h to see help about each section
>
> >--
> >Unsubscribe info:      http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
> >Bug reporting:         http://cygwin.com/bugs.html
> >Documentation:         http://cygwin.com/docs.html
> >FAQ:                   http://cygwin.com/faq/


From cgf@redhat.com  Thu Apr 11 13:56:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:56:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <3CB4AE32.6000108@ece.gatech.edu>
References: <3CB3C24E.9060803@znark.com> <20020410053447.GA15157@redhat.com> <3CB49F1C.7000604@znark.com> <3CB4AE32.6000108@ece.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <20020411205654.GB14586@redhat.com>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 05:27:14PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote:
>Ian, Chris wants the setup hint files IN the mailing list archive 
>permanently.  Not sitting on an external, subject-to-change website.
>
>I've pasted them here.

These look ok except the "version:" field is a no-op in setup.hint and
should be removed.

Has anyone looked at the packages themselves?

cgf

>--- xfree86-base ---
>sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 base"
>category: XFree86
>requires: cygwin ash xfree86-fonts
>ldesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 is a port of the X Window System to Cygwin. The
>X server runs under Windows and displays X clients running on the
>local or other machines. It can run in full screen and single window
>modes.
>
>This package contains the programs, libraries, and config files to run
>the X server and other X clients. The xfree86-fonts package is also
>required. The other packages contain headers, programs, and
>documentation for development."
>
>
>--- xfree86-devel ---
>sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 development files"
>category: XFree86
>requires: xfree86-base
>ldesc: "This package contains the libraries, headers, and man pages
>for compiling X Windows programs."
>
>
>--- xfree86-doc ---
>sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 text documentation"
>category: XFree86
>ldesc: "XFree86 development documentation in text, HTML, and PostScript 
>formats."
>
>--- xfree86-fonts ---
>sdesc: "Cygwin-XFree86 fonts"
>category: XFree86
>requires: xfree86-base
>ldesc: "This package contains fonts for XFree86. It contains the
>100dpi, 75dpi, misc, scaled, and cyrillic sets. This package is
>required."
>
>
>--- xfree86-xfs ---
>sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 font server"
>category: XFree86
>requires: cygwin xfree86-base
>version: 4.2.0-1
>ldesc: "This package contains the font server for XFree86."
>
>
>--- xfree86-xnest ---
>sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 nested server"
>category: XFree86
>requires: cygwin xfree86-base
>version: 4.2.0-1
>ldesc: "Xnest is an X server that runs as a client for another X
>server. It is used for testing X clients and servers."
>
>
>--- xfree86-xprt ---
>sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 printing server"
>category: XFree86
>requires: cygwin xfree86-base
>version: 4.2.0-1
>ldesc: "Xprt is an X server that prints the display to a PostScript file."
>
>
>--- xfree86-xvfb ---
>sdesc: "Cygwin-XFree86 virtual framebuffer server"
>category: XFree86
>requires: cygwin xfree86-base
>version: 4.2.0-1
>ldesc: "Xvfb is an X server that runs without any display using a
>virtual framebuffer. This server runs without any display. It is used
>for testing X clients and servers."


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr 11 14:06:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:06:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <3CB4B09C.1070606@znark.com>
Message-ID: 

Ian,

> Good idea. I'm going to call it xfree86-xwin though. I think I'll put
> the startup-scripts.tgz in this package.

That sounds fine.

Can I also request that you use a seperate variable for the server version
number?  I'd ask that because the server will tend to get updated often
while most of the other packages will never be updated.

I'm really looking forward to these packages getting finished.

Do you think you've got a handle on creating the symlinks that Xinstall.sh
creates?

Harold


> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ian Burrell
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:38 PM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: xfree packages
>
>
> Harold Hunt wrote:
> > Yes, we try to keep things regularized around here, so XFree86
> is the way
> > that the package names need to be spelled.
> >
> > Also, I request that you keep the XFree86-xserv package, as
> that will allow
> > us to realize the immediate benefit of being able to release the Test-**
> > server or updates to the stable server as small downloads that
> everyone can
> > keep up to date with.
> >
>
> Good idea. I'm going to call it xfree86-xwin though. I think I'll put
> the startup-scripts.tgz in this package.
>
>   - Ian
>
> --
> iburrell@znark.com
> http://www.znark.com/
>


From iburrell@znark.com  Thu Apr 11 16:10:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 16:10:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
References: 
Message-ID: <3CB617C1.9040001@znark.com>

Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> That sounds fine.
> 
> Can I also request that you use a seperate variable for the server version
> number?  I'd ask that because the server will tend to get updated often
> while most of the other packages will never be updated.
> 
> I'm really looking forward to these packages getting finished.
> 
> Do you think you've got a handle on creating the symlinks that Xinstall.sh
> creates?
> 

Did you notice any symlinks that were missing? The build.sh script is 
supposed to create and package the links that Xinstall.sh makes. I don't 
think Xinstall.sh behaviour is quite right for the xkb files.

I posted the xfree86-xwin package and modified xfree86-base to my web 
site. I have appended the new setup.hint files.

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


xfree86-base:

sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 base"
category: XFree86
requires: cygwin ash xfree86-fonts xfree86-xwin
ldesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 is a port of the X Window System to Cygwin.

This package contains the programs, libraries, and config files needed
to run an X server and clients. It also include the X clients from the
standard X distribution like xterm and twm. You will need to install
the xfree86-xwin package with the Windows X server. The xfree86-fonts
package is also required. The other packages contain headers,
programs, and documentation for development."


xfree86-xwin:

sdesc: "Cygwin/XFree86 Windows X server"
category: XFree86
requires: cygwin xfree86-base
ldesc: "XWin is the X server for Windows. It can run in two different
modes, full screen or inside Windows window. It has four different
engines to drawing, Shadow GDI, Shadow DirectDraw, and Native GDI."



From iburrell@znark.com  Thu Apr 11 17:30:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 17:30:00 -0000
Subject: Installation of xkb files
References: 
Message-ID: <3CB62A7E.8020209@znark.com>

Alexander Gottwald wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Ian Burrell wrote:
> 
> 
>>On Linux, the files are in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb, /etc/X11/xkb is a 
>>symlink to that, and /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb is a symlink to /var/lib/xkb.
> 
> 
> I'm using /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb for the xkb files. /etc/X11/xkb as a 
> symlink to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb.  
> 
> xkbcomp itself uses /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb for the files.
> 

Where does /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled point?

I think the layout from "make install" is correct. The files are 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb, compiled is a link to /etc/X11/xkb, and 
/etc/X11/xkb just contains a README file. I don't know why the binary 
distribution is different. I can't see anything in the makefiles or 
bindist scripts that be different.

I changed the packaging to reflect the "make install".

  - Ian

-- 
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http://www.znark.com/


From saunup@hotmail.com  Thu Apr 11 20:26:00 2002
From: saunup@hotmail.com (Nupur Saurabh)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 20:26:00 -0000
Subject: logos
Message-ID: 

hi all,

attached are some logos 

with some graphics 

http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logog.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logod.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logof.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logoc.jpg



without graphics

http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logoa.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logoe.jpg


suggestions, comments and feedback are welcome

nupur


From eugenius@dingoblue.net.au  Thu Apr 11 22:54:00 2002
From: eugenius@dingoblue.net.au (Eugene Rosenzweig)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 22:54:00 -0000
Subject: logos
References: 
Message-ID: <023c01c1e1e6$89967070$0300a8c0@bluebox>

I think they look quite good. In the last logo thread I got the impression
that people wanted the established Cygwin logo for letter C, maybe you can
add a variation on that to your list.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nupur Saurabh" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:40 PM
Subject: logos


> hi all,
>
> attached are some logos
>
> with some graphics
>
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logog.jpg
>
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logod.jpg
>
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logof.jpg
>
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logoc.jpg
>
>
>
> without graphics
>
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logoa.jpg
>
> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logoe.jpg
>
>
> suggestions, comments and feedback are welcome
>
> nupur


From cgf@redhat.com  Thu Apr 11 23:06:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 23:06:00 -0000
Subject: logos
In-Reply-To: <023c01c1e1e6$89967070$0300a8c0@bluebox>
References:  <023c01c1e1e6$89967070$0300a8c0@bluebox>
Message-ID: <20020412060623.GA28380@redhat.com>

On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 03:54:39PM +1000, Eugene Rosenzweig wrote:
>I think they look quite good.  In the last logo thread I got the
>impression that people wanted the established Cygwin logo for letter C,
>maybe you can add a variation on that to your list.

That's correct.  The logo that is being used is apparently the old
"Cyg*nus*" logo.

While I like the logo, I'd prefer the current Cygwin one.  Or even an a
completely new Cygwin logo, for that matter.

This is just my preference for the Cygwin part of Cygwin/XFree86.

cgf

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Nupur Saurabh" 
>To: 
>Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:40 PM
>Subject: logos
>
>
>> hi all,
>>
>> attached are some logos
>>
>> with some graphics
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logog.jpg
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logod.jpg
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logof.jpg
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logoc.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>> without graphics
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logoa.jpg
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/nupursarpal/logoe.jpg
>>
>>
>> suggestions, comments and feedback are welcome
>>
>> nupur


From jesse@fractalgraphics.com.au  Fri Apr 12 00:21:00 2002
From: jesse@fractalgraphics.com.au (Jesse Pepper)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 00:21:00 -0000
Subject: Windows placed directly onto desktop (dream or reality)
Message-ID: <005c01c1e1f2$afeaa410$6b173bcb@peppo>

Hi All,

Sorry in advance if this issue has already been discussed, but I
couldn't find any info on it.

I have a recollection of running XWin on a windows box, and being able
to display windows directly onto the desktop.

That is, one "ms windows" window per x-window.  Is this actually a dream
I had, or is it really possible.  If so, how does one go about achieving
this high state.

I want to be able to overlay "ms windows" windows and "x windows" over
one another.

Thanks,

Jesse

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From Tim.Huckvale@Charteris.com  Fri Apr 12 02:32:00 2002
From: Tim.Huckvale@Charteris.com (Tim Huckvale)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 02:32:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
Message-ID: 

I'm interested in a minimal cygwin / xfree86 package since I'm only
using it to control my SuSE Linux fileserver and internet gateway which
sits in a corner with no keyboard or monitor. I connect via xdm and run
KDE desktop. The total cygwin and xfree86 installation takes up 100
Mbyte disk space, which seems excessive.

I removed the 75dpi fonts in response to Ian's remark below, but had to
put them back when I found that the KDE desktop looked horrible. (It
still doesn't display SuSE's yast2 windows properly, but that's another
story.)

I guess you can't come up with a minimal package that suits everyone,
but perhaps it's worth recording experiences such as mine in the
archive.

Thanks to all involved in cygwin/xfree86 development - you're doing a
super job!

Regards,
Tim



> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ian Burrell
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:49
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Cc: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
> ....
> There are a couple of refinements that can be made to the 
> repackaging. 
> First, the 75dpi fonts make up the bulk (10MB) of the fonts 
> package and 
> aren't strictly required. They could be made their own package. The 
> miscellaneous fonts could be folded into the base package so there is 
> only one required package.
> ...

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From mbradford@bahaigear.com  Fri Apr 12 03:26:00 2002
From: mbradford@bahaigear.com (Matthew Bradford)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 03:26:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
Message-ID: <006a01c1e20c$72375b80$0a00a8c0@henry>

I am having quite a time trying to get cygwin-xfree to log into my redhat
7.2 server via XDMCP.  I have read (and reread) a couple of howto's on the
subject and so AFAIK all the config files are set properly.  (and yes, I
have restarted kdm and even the whole server just to be absolutely sure)  So
here are the details of the problem:

command used to launch xfree:
XWin.exe -ac -query 192.168.0.11

and after running top at a high refresh speed on the server and trying to
start X on my winXP box I see that kdm starts and then it times out
eventually.  I can connect to this server with another Linux box via XDMCP
with no problems so I am at a loss as to what could be going on.

Oh, as for versions of everything:
Client:
    WinXP
    Latest CygWin (just downloaded it today as a fresh install)
    Latest CygWin-XFree (4.2.0)

Server:
    RedHat 7.2
    KDE 3.0
    running KDM (whatever would come with RedHat 7.2 or KDE 3.. not sure if
it is attached to KDE or not)

Any help would be much appreciated.

TIA
    Matt


From xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz  Fri Apr 12 04:55:00 2002
From: xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz (David Komanek)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 04:55:00 -0000
Subject: Xfree and OpenGL
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 


Harold,

as I wrote before, I AM able to run xterm. Probably I don't know which
SGI applications are powered by OpenGL, and there is possibility, some of
the apps I cannot run are not these, but it is obvious that standard X11
apps are running and SGI specials (i.e. management utilities started from
toolchest) aren't.

BR,

  David



> David,
> 
> Just as a sanity check, you have run non OpenGL applications from your SGI
> machine using Cygwin/XFree86, right?  I mean, it wouldn't make much sense to
> jump right into debugging complex applications if an xterm doesn't work
> correctly.
> 
> Just let us know that you have in fact done this.
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of David Komanek
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:07 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: Xfree and OpenGL
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Alan,
> >
> > thanks for your comments/advices. I tried glxgears and it works. The gears
> > are not rotating fluent enough on my 800MHz pentium, but I don't expect
> > this is related to my problem.
> >
> > I am able to start xterm, swmgr, toolchest connecting to SGI 6.5.14 box
> > which probably use classical X11 and Motif library only. Trying to start
> > i.e. "jot", it claims:
> >
> > dgl error (protocol): remote machine not DGL capable - meda:10.0
> > dgl error (default init): default dglopen(meda:10.0,4) returned -13
> >
> > Connecting to another box, running IRIX 6.2, it is even worse - swmgr
> > shows only the first "Wait please ...." window and then you can wait for
> > hours and the main window does not appear. In the xterm you can see
> > following message:
> >
> > WARNING: Not all colors for application icons could be allocated.  Some
> > interface elements may have different colors.
> > Warning: creating new shape image
> >
> > Jot coredumps, many others too.
> > Toolchest starts fine, but no apps called invoked from its menus.
> >
> > When I run this apps on the local graphics console of an SGI box, it works
> > fine.
> >
> > Well, this problem is not connection type related (both ssh and
> > telnet+xhost produce same results). Probably should I install something on
> > the SGI boxes to translate DGL requests into the X11 protocol (rendered on
> > the server side, but at least working) ?
> >
> > Any ideas are appreciated.
> >
> > David
> >
kk


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr 12 04:56:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 04:56:00 -0000
Subject: Windows placed directly onto desktop (dream or reality)
In-Reply-To: <005c01c1e1f2$afeaa410$6b173bcb@peppo>
Message-ID: 

Jesse,

You were dreaming.

Robert Collins is working on the feature, but it is complex, so don't hold
your breath waiting.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jesse Pepper
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 3:22 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Windows placed directly onto desktop (dream or reality)
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Sorry in advance if this issue has already been discussed, but I
> couldn't find any info on it.
>
> I have a recollection of running XWin on a windows box, and being able
> to display windows directly onto the desktop.
>
> That is, one "ms windows" window per x-window.  Is this actually a dream
> I had, or is it really possible.  If so, how does one go about achieving
> this high state.
>
> I want to be able to overlay "ms windows" windows and "x windows" over
> one another.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jesse
>
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From xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz  Fri Apr 12 05:17:00 2002
From: xdavid@aragorn.natur.cuni.cz (David Komanek)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 05:17:00 -0000
Subject: Xfree and OpenGL
In-Reply-To: <20020412120924.3832.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 


Thank to all people who sent answers to my problem. I think, we can close
this thread just now, after you told me OpenGL, and GL are two different
things and after you confirmed I'll will never be able to send some SGI
apps to non-SGI display.

Thanks again.

  David



Suhaib Siddiqi wrote:

>  Most (NOT ALL) of those management utilities on SGI (IRIX) are in
> fact not OpenGL applications.  Thay are GL and they wont run under
> Xfree86, in fact under almost all X-servers.  you will get error "gl
> error display.  remote display does not support gl".  GL is SGI
> propretary extension.  For example if you try to display jot on a
> Linux or Solaris, you will never work.  You MAY remotely display SGI
> applications liked GL libraries, only if you but SGI hardware with SGI
> version of RedHat Linux installed on it.  From Windows, most of the
> time you are up in the air if you are trying to an application which
> uses SGI GL exntension.




From ssiddiqi.no.spam@ssiddiqi.net  Fri Apr 12 05:22:00 2002
From: ssiddiqi.no.spam@ssiddiqi.net (ssiddiqi.no.spam@ssiddiqi.net)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 05:22:00 -0000
Subject: XFree and OpenGL
Message-ID: 

Most of the SGI special utilities are linked to SGI propretary GL 
libraries and they wont display on XFree86 - in fact on any remote 
x-server. For example if you start jot, you will get an error gl not
supported 
on remote display. GL is SGI old propretary extension and IRIX is 
still shipped with many utilities linked to old GL libraries (NOT OpenGL).
They cannot 
be displayed on any remote X-server, except a remote SGI workstation, 
period. It is not XFree86 fault.

Suhaib
David Komanek  wrote: 

Harold,

as I wrote before, I AM able to run xterm. Probably I don't know which
SGI applications are powered by OpenGL, and there is possibility, some of
the apps I cannot run are not these, but it is obvious that standard X11
apps are running and SGI specials (i.e. management utilities started from
toolchest) aren't.

BR,

David



> David,
> 
> Just as a sanity check, you have run non OpenGL applications from your SGI
> machine using Cygwin/XFree86, right? I mean, it wouldn't make much sense
to
> jump right into debugging complex applications if an xterm doesn't work
> correctly.
> 
> Just let us know that you have in fact done this.
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of David Komanek
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:07 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: Xfree and OpenGL
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Alan,
> >
> > thanks for your comments/advices. I tried glxgears and it works. The
gears
> > are not rotating fluent enough on my 800MHz pentium, but I don't expect
> > this is related to my problem.
> >
> > I am able to start xterm, swmgr, toolchest connecting to SGI 6.5.14 box
> > which probably use classical X11 and Motif library only. Trying to start
> > i.e. "jot", it claims:
> >
> > dgl error (protocol): remote machine not DGL capable - meda:10.0
> > dgl error (default init): default dglopen(meda:10.0,4) returned -13
> >
> > Connecting to another box, running IRIX 6.2, it is even worse - swmgr
> > shows only the first "Wait please ...." window and then you can wait for
> > hours and the main window does not appear. In the xterm you can see
> > following message:
> >
> > WARNING: Not all colors for application icons could be allocated. Some
> > interface elements may have different colors.
> > Warning: creating new shape image
> >
> > Jot coredumps, many others too.
> > Toolchest starts fine, but no apps called invoked from its menus.
> >
> > When I run this apps on the local graphics console of an SGI box, it
works
> > fine.
> >
> > Well, this problem is not connection type related (both ssh and
> > telnet+xhost produce same results). Probably should I install something
on
> > the SGI boxes to translate DGL requests into the X11 protocol (rendered
on
> > the server side, but at least working) ?
> >
> > Any ideas are appreciated.
> >
> > David
> >
kk



From salexander@taz.qinetiq.com  Fri Apr 12 06:46:00 2002
From: salexander@taz.qinetiq.com (Scott Alexander)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 06:46:00 -0000
Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
References: <200204101705.42781.mmanohar@attbi.com>
Message-ID: <001301c1e228$a2121db0$2153b80a@gooshy>

Thanks a lot this solved my problem also.

Cheers for the help
Scott Alexander.


 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Joan Bertran [mailto:jbertran@cirsa.com]
 > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 8:40 AM
 > To: huntharo@msu.edu
 > Subject: RE: kde 3.0 no icons
 >
 >
 >   I have the same problem and i have found a workaround,
 > just reducing the M$-windows color depth from 32 bit to 15 bits
 > per pixel (it's the only high-color options on my driver) solves this
 > and all icons are displayed fine.
 >
 >               Joan Bertran.
 >
 >



From eugenius@dingoblue.net.au  Fri Apr 12 07:12:00 2002
From: eugenius@dingoblue.net.au (Eugene Rosenzweig)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 07:12:00 -0000
Subject: Windows placed directly onto desktop (dream or reality)
References: <005c01c1e1f2$afeaa410$6b173bcb@peppo>
Message-ID: <02aa01c1e22c$0c1dea10$0300a8c0@bluebox>

X-Win32 from www.starnet.com and Hummingbird Exceed X server provide native
window modes but they are both pricey commercial products and they don't
have the advantage of the having the whole cygwin environment. It is handy
to be have the ability to have native X windows, provides more seamless
integration with native GUI. I look forward to XFree86 support for it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jesse Pepper" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 5:21 PM
Subject: Windows placed directly onto desktop (dream or reality)


> Hi All,
>
> Sorry in advance if this issue has already been discussed, but I
> couldn't find any info on it.
>
> I have a recollection of running XWin on a windows box, and being able
> to display windows directly onto the desktop.
>
> That is, one "ms windows" window per x-window.  Is this actually a dream
> I had, or is it really possible.  If so, how does one go about achieving
> this high state.
>
> I want to be able to overlay "ms windows" windows and "x windows" over
> one another.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jesse
>
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From lws@hiwaay.net  Fri Apr 12 07:16:00 2002
From: lws@hiwaay.net (Dr. Lawrence  W. Spradley)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 07:16:00 -0000
Subject: Problems installing cygwin-xfree86 on a Dell WIN2K box
References: 
Message-ID: <002601c1e22c$c537ee60$2204b4d8@default>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
Subject: RE: Problems installing cygwin-xfree86 on a Dell WIN2K box

Harold:

    Thanks for your response. I was, in fact, following those directions
verbatim, on that very web page, when the Xinstall.sh script exited with an
error meassage saying that the extract command wasn't working properly &
admonishing me to fix that & try again. I had just downloaded the entire
XFree86 package Wednesday A.M. from ftp.nas.nasa.gov using the ftp command
from the cygwin bash shell command line ("mget *" from the
.../xfree/4.2.0/binaries directory). This download included the extract
command which I believe Xinstall.sh tried to use to unpack everything (after
I copied it to the /bin directory from the bash command line). I guess my
question is "what do I need to do to 'fix' the extract command & try again"
? Would the regular tar command downloaded earlier & included w/ the basic
cygwin package work ? Thanks in advance.

> If you read the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide instructions on installation
> then you would know exactly what to do.
>
> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/
>
> Harold
>



From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Fri Apr 12 08:43:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 08:43:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: <006a01c1e20c$72375b80$0a00a8c0@henry>
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Matthew Bradford wrote:

> start X on my winXP box I see that kdm starts and then it times out
> eventually.  I can connect to this server with another Linux box via XDMCP

What do you mean with "times out"?

bye
    ago
-- 
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From mbradford@bahaigear.com  Fri Apr 12 11:11:00 2002
From: mbradford@bahaigear.com (Matthew Bradford)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 11:11:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
References: 
Message-ID: <00e601c1e24d$5eaeaeb0$0a00a8c0@henry>

Just that a new version of kdm is spawned and then eventually it dies.  I am
assuming this is a timeout because it cannot connect to the X server.  (see
my second message on this subject)  To sum up, I can run remote X programs
when using SSH -X, however if I telnet in and set the DISPLAY variable it
refuses the connection no matter what.

    - Matt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Gottwald" 
To: "Matthew Bradford" 
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2


> On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Matthew Bradford wrote:
>
> > start X on my winXP box I see that kdm starts and then it times out
> > eventually.  I can connect to this server with another Linux box via
XDMCP
>
> What do you mean with "times out"?
>
> bye
>     ago
> --
>  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
>  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
>  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017
>  4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr 12 11:18:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 11:18:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: <00e601c1e24d$5eaeaeb0$0a00a8c0@henry>
Message-ID: 

Matt,

Did we already ask if you have multiple network cards in your Windows
machine, or any token ring cards?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:11 PM
> To: Alexander Gottwald
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
>
>
> Just that a new version of kdm is spawned and then eventually it
> dies.  I am
> assuming this is a timeout because it cannot connect to the X
> server.  (see
> my second message on this subject)  To sum up, I can run remote X programs
> when using SSH -X, however if I telnet in and set the DISPLAY variable it
> refuses the connection no matter what.
>
>     - Matt
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alexander Gottwald" 
> To: "Matthew Bradford" 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:43 AM
> Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
>
>
> > On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Matthew Bradford wrote:
> >
> > > start X on my winXP box I see that kdm starts and then it times out
> > > eventually.  I can connect to this server with another Linux box via
> XDMCP
> >
> > What do you mean with "times out"?
> >
> > bye
> >     ago
> > --
> >  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
> >  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
> >  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017
> >  4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4
>


From jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk  Fri Apr 12 13:03:00 2002
From: jim.george@blueyonder.co.uk (Jim George)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 13:03:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
References: 
Message-ID: <009101c1e25c$e559a2d0$0100a8c0@gateway>

If you SuSE Linux box is only acting as a fileserver, gateway why run X on
it?  If you make it run at runlevel 3 then it only needs the command prompt
and you won't need xfree86 under cygwin to access it.

Indeed you don't anyway, simply ssh or telnet to Linux box.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Huckvale" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?


I'm interested in a minimal cygwin / xfree86 package since I'm only
using it to control my SuSE Linux fileserver and internet gateway which
sits in a corner with no keyboard or monitor. I connect via xdm and run
KDE desktop. The total cygwin and xfree86 installation takes up 100
Mbyte disk space, which seems excessive.

I removed the 75dpi fonts in response to Ian's remark below, but had to
put them back when I found that the KDE desktop looked horrible. (It
still doesn't display SuSE's yast2 windows properly, but that's another
story.)

I guess you can't come up with a minimal package that suits everyone,
but perhaps it's worth recording experiences such as mine in the
archive.

Thanks to all involved in cygwin/xfree86 development - you're doing a
super job!

Regards,
Tim



> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ian Burrell
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:49
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Cc: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
> ....
> There are a couple of refinements that can be made to the
> repackaging.
> First, the 75dpi fonts make up the bulk (10MB) of the fonts
> package and
> aren't strictly required. They could be made their own package. The
> miscellaneous fonts could be folded into the base package so there is
> only one required package.
> ...

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From mbradford@bahaigear.com  Fri Apr 12 13:06:00 2002
From: mbradford@bahaigear.com (Matthew Bradford)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 13:06:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
References: 
Message-ID: <00fe01c1e25d$6f8a8730$0a00a8c0@henry>

No you haven't asked, but no.  Only one card that gets its address from the
DHCP server on my network.  (Also a linux box)

Good question though.. I am assuming you thought perhaps I was tryin to
access the wrong network?
    - Matt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: "Matthew Bradford" 
Cc: "cygx" 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2


> Matt,
>
> Did we already ask if you have multiple network cards in your Windows
> machine, or any token ring cards?
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:11 PM
> > To: Alexander Gottwald
> > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> >
> >
> > Just that a new version of kdm is spawned and then eventually it
> > dies.  I am
> > assuming this is a timeout because it cannot connect to the X
> > server.  (see
> > my second message on this subject)  To sum up, I can run remote X
programs
> > when using SSH -X, however if I telnet in and set the DISPLAY variable
it
> > refuses the connection no matter what.
> >
> >     - Matt
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alexander Gottwald"

> > To: "Matthew Bradford" 
> > Cc: 
> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> >
> >
> > > On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > >
> > > > start X on my winXP box I see that kdm starts and then it times out
> > > > eventually.  I can connect to this server with another Linux box via
> > XDMCP
> > >
> > > What do you mean with "times out"?
> > >
> > > bye
> > >     ago
> > > --
> > >  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
> > >  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
> > >  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017
> > >  4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4
> >


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr 12 13:28:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 13:28:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: <00fe01c1e25d$6f8a8730$0a00a8c0@henry>
Message-ID: 

Matt,

> No you haven't asked, but no.

Good.

> Good question though.. I am assuming you thought perhaps I was tryin to
> access the wrong network?

Not quite.  The Cygwin folks (esp. Alexander Gottwald) have been working for
some time to make sure that cygwin1.dll is able to return correct
information on the available network interfaces.  The problem situations
have been when a machine has more than one network card, or a token ring
network card.  You don't have either so this isn't a problem.

> Only one card that gets its address from the
> DHCP server on my network.  (Also a linux box)

Hmm... perhaps you should try using the -from parameter with the IP address
of the Windows machine that you are using Cygwin/XFree86 on.  I suspect that
there may be a problem with Windows reporting a certain hostname that your
Linux box can't find an IP address for.  Here's  an example command line:

XWin -query linux_ip_address -from windows_ip_address

Let me know,

Harold


> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 4:06 PM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygx
> Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
>
>
> No you haven't asked, but no.  Only one card that gets its
> address from the
> DHCP server on my network.  (Also a linux box)
>
> Good question though.. I am assuming you thought perhaps I was tryin to
> access the wrong network?
>     - Matt
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harold Hunt" 
> To: "Matthew Bradford" 
> Cc: "cygx" 
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:18 PM
> Subject: RE: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
>
>
> > Matt,
> >
> > Did we already ask if you have multiple network cards in your Windows
> > machine, or any token ring cards?
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:11 PM
> > > To: Alexander Gottwald
> > > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > >
> > >
> > > Just that a new version of kdm is spawned and then eventually it
> > > dies.  I am
> > > assuming this is a timeout because it cannot connect to the X
> > > server.  (see
> > > my second message on this subject)  To sum up, I can run remote X
> programs
> > > when using SSH -X, however if I telnet in and set the DISPLAY variable
> it
> > > refuses the connection no matter what.
> > >
> > >     - Matt
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Alexander Gottwald"
> 
> > > To: "Matthew Bradford" 
> > > Cc: 
> > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:43 AM
> > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > start X on my winXP box I see that kdm starts and then it
> times out
> > > > > eventually.  I can connect to this server with another
> Linux box via
> > > XDMCP
> > > >
> > > > What do you mean with "times out"?
> > > >
> > > > bye
> > > >     ago
> > > > --
> > > >  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
> > > >  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
> > > >  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017
> > > >  4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4
> > >
>


From mbradford@bahaigear.com  Fri Apr 12 14:06:00 2002
From: mbradford@bahaigear.com (Matthew Bradford)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 14:06:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
References: 
Message-ID: <013201c1e265$da54cf50$0a00a8c0@henry>

Harold,

First, thank you very much for your time and attention.  Now onto the
results of your last email:

I've tried that before, but I tried it again just to be sure... and still no
go.

did you get my previous email talking about the connection refused issue?  I
think this is related.  The only way I can get any remote X app to run is
when I tunnel it through SSH.  Setting the export variable doesn't work.
(even when i run xhost + and/or pass the -ac option to the X server)  It is
acting as if access control is on still.

Any ideas on how to fix that?  I'll put ya money on it that is the issue.  I
just have no idea how to fix it.

    - Matt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: "Matthew Bradford" 
Cc: "cygx" 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 4:28 PM
Subject: RE: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2


> Matt,
>
> > No you haven't asked, but no.
>
> Good.
>
> > Good question though.. I am assuming you thought perhaps I was tryin to
> > access the wrong network?
>
> Not quite.  The Cygwin folks (esp. Alexander Gottwald) have been working
for
> some time to make sure that cygwin1.dll is able to return correct
> information on the available network interfaces.  The problem situations
> have been when a machine has more than one network card, or a token ring
> network card.  You don't have either so this isn't a problem.
>
> > Only one card that gets its address from the
> > DHCP server on my network.  (Also a linux box)
>
> Hmm... perhaps you should try using the -from parameter with the IP
address
> of the Windows machine that you are using Cygwin/XFree86 on.  I suspect
that
> there may be a problem with Windows reporting a certain hostname that your
> Linux box can't find an IP address for.  Here's  an example command line:
>
> XWin -query linux_ip_address -from windows_ip_address
>
> Let me know,
>
> Harold
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 4:06 PM
> > To: Harold Hunt
> > Cc: cygx
> > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> >
> >
> > No you haven't asked, but no.  Only one card that gets its
> > address from the
> > DHCP server on my network.  (Also a linux box)
> >
> > Good question though.. I am assuming you thought perhaps I was tryin to
> > access the wrong network?
> >     - Matt
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Harold Hunt" 
> > To: "Matthew Bradford" 
> > Cc: "cygx" 
> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:18 PM
> > Subject: RE: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> >
> >
> > > Matt,
> > >
> > > Did we already ask if you have multiple network cards in your Windows
> > > machine, or any token ring cards?
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:11 PM
> > > > To: Alexander Gottwald
> > > > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Just that a new version of kdm is spawned and then eventually it
> > > > dies.  I am
> > > > assuming this is a timeout because it cannot connect to the X
> > > > server.  (see
> > > > my second message on this subject)  To sum up, I can run remote X
> > programs
> > > > when using SSH -X, however if I telnet in and set the DISPLAY
variable
> > it
> > > > refuses the connection no matter what.
> > > >
> > > >     - Matt
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Alexander Gottwald"
> > 
> > > > To: "Matthew Bradford" 
> > > > Cc: 
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:43 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > start X on my winXP box I see that kdm starts and then it
> > times out
> > > > > > eventually.  I can connect to this server with another
> > Linux box via
> > > > XDMCP
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you mean with "times out"?
> > > > >
> > > > > bye
> > > > >     ago
> > > > > --
> > > > >  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
> > > > >  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
> > > > >  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017
> > > > >  4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4
> > > >
> >


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr 12 17:14:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 17:14:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: <013201c1e265$da54cf50$0a00a8c0@henry>
Message-ID: 

Matt,

Do you own a commercial X-server product, such as Exceed or X-Win32?

Do you have firewall software installed on your computer?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 5:06 PM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygx
> Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
>
>
> Harold,
>
> First, thank you very much for your time and attention.  Now onto the
> results of your last email:
>
> I've tried that before, but I tried it again just to be sure...
> and still no
> go.
>
> did you get my previous email talking about the connection
> refused issue?  I
> think this is related.  The only way I can get any remote X app to run is
> when I tunnel it through SSH.  Setting the export variable doesn't work.
> (even when i run xhost + and/or pass the -ac option to the X
> server)  It is
> acting as if access control is on still.
>
> Any ideas on how to fix that?  I'll put ya money on it that is
> the issue.  I
> just have no idea how to fix it.
>
>     - Matt
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harold Hunt" 
> To: "Matthew Bradford" 
> Cc: "cygx" 
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 4:28 PM
> Subject: RE: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
>
>
> > Matt,
> >
> > > No you haven't asked, but no.
> >
> > Good.
> >
> > > Good question though.. I am assuming you thought perhaps I
> was tryin to
> > > access the wrong network?
> >
> > Not quite.  The Cygwin folks (esp. Alexander Gottwald) have been working
> for
> > some time to make sure that cygwin1.dll is able to return correct
> > information on the available network interfaces.  The problem situations
> > have been when a machine has more than one network card, or a token ring
> > network card.  You don't have either so this isn't a problem.
> >
> > > Only one card that gets its address from the
> > > DHCP server on my network.  (Also a linux box)
> >
> > Hmm... perhaps you should try using the -from parameter with the IP
> address
> > of the Windows machine that you are using Cygwin/XFree86 on.  I suspect
> that
> > there may be a problem with Windows reporting a certain
> hostname that your
> > Linux box can't find an IP address for.  Here's  an example
> command line:
> >
> > XWin -query linux_ip_address -from windows_ip_address
> >
> > Let me know,
> >
> > Harold
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 4:06 PM
> > > To: Harold Hunt
> > > Cc: cygx
> > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > >
> > >
> > > No you haven't asked, but no.  Only one card that gets its
> > > address from the
> > > DHCP server on my network.  (Also a linux box)
> > >
> > > Good question though.. I am assuming you thought perhaps I
> was tryin to
> > > access the wrong network?
> > >     - Matt
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Harold Hunt" 
> > > To: "Matthew Bradford" 
> > > Cc: "cygx" 
> > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:18 PM
> > > Subject: RE: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > >
> > >
> > > > Matt,
> > > >
> > > > Did we already ask if you have multiple network cards in
> your Windows
> > > > machine, or any token ring cards?
> > > >
> > > > Harold
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of
> Matthew Bradford
> > > > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:11 PM
> > > > > To: Alexander Gottwald
> > > > > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Just that a new version of kdm is spawned and then eventually it
> > > > > dies.  I am
> > > > > assuming this is a timeout because it cannot connect to the X
> > > > > server.  (see
> > > > > my second message on this subject)  To sum up, I can run remote X
> > > programs
> > > > > when using SSH -X, however if I telnet in and set the DISPLAY
> variable
> > > it
> > > > > refuses the connection no matter what.
> > > > >
> > > > >     - Matt
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Alexander Gottwald"
> > > 
> > > > > To: "Matthew Bradford" 
> > > > > Cc: 
> > > > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:43 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > start X on my winXP box I see that kdm starts and then it
> > > times out
> > > > > > > eventually.  I can connect to this server with another
> > > Linux box via
> > > > > XDMCP
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What do you mean with "times out"?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > bye
> > > > > >     ago
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
> > > > > >  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
> > > > > >  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017
> > > > > >  4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4
> > > > >
> > >
>


From iburrell@znark.com  Fri Apr 12 19:08:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 19:08:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
References:  <013201c1e265$da54cf50$0a00a8c0@henry>
Message-ID: <3CB792FD.8050800@znark.com>

Matthew Bradford wrote:
> 
> First, thank you very much for your time and attention.  Now onto the
> results of your last email:
> 
> I've tried that before, but I tried it again just to be sure... and still no
> go.
> 
> did you get my previous email talking about the connection refused issue?  I
> think this is related.  The only way I can get any remote X app to run is
> when I tunnel it through SSH.  Setting the export variable doesn't work.
> (even when i run xhost + and/or pass the -ac option to the X server)  It is
> acting as if access control is on still.
> 
> Any ideas on how to fix that?  I'll put ya money on it that is the issue.  I
> just have no idea how to fix it.
> 

Also, check if you have any .Xauthority files. Try moving the existing 
ones are regenerating them. If you are running an X server, "xauth 
generate " connects to the server and generates new cookies. You 
can copy the resulting .Xauthority file to Red Hat 7.2 machine.

One thing to try is turn on debugging in the XDMCP server. I don't know 
how this is done with kdm. xdm has a -debug flag.

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From flip@mrflip.com  Fri Apr 12 21:30:00 2002
From: flip@mrflip.com (Philip Flip Kromer)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 21:30:00 -0000
Subject: Clipboard inspector in X?
Message-ID: <3CB7B0EB.2080204@mrflip.com>

Hello,

I am trying to debug an issue with cutting and pasting between 
XFree86/Cygwin and eXceed.  I have the latest xwinclip from
   http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/
   ftp://ftp.sunsite.utk.edu/pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/xwinclip/

I am sure there must be an X equivalent of the Windows Clipboard Viewer 
(C:\WINDOWS\system32\clipbrd.exe): something that will sit and poll the 
x-windows clipboard(s) and show the current contents.

Unless I am missing the boat, this doesn't seem to be the purpose of 
either xcutsel or xclipboard.  I built xwinclip with debug information on 
but wanted even yet still more verbosity, and preferably something that is 
pure X.

So: Can you point me to a utility that will continuously poll the X 
PRIMARY clipboard, reflecting and displaying the current state?

Thanks!

flip




From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr 12 22:04:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 22:04:00 -0000
Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
In-Reply-To: <001301c1e228$a2121db0$2153b80a@gooshy>
Message-ID: 

I'm submitting a bug report to KDE to gather more information.

I can reproduce this bug when I put my graphics card into 32 bit color mode,
but I need to know if any user out there with a graphics card capable of 24
bit color mode has this problem when they are in 24 bit color mode.

Please respond ASAP if you can tell me whether or not 24 bit color produces
the same problem of no icons in KDE 3.

Thanks,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Scott Alexander
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:48 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: kde 3.0 no icons
>
>
> Thanks a lot this solved my problem also.
>
> Cheers for the help
> Scott Alexander.
>
>
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Joan Bertran [mailto:jbertran@cirsa.com]
>  > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 8:40 AM
>  > To: huntharo@msu.edu
>  > Subject: RE: kde 3.0 no icons
>  >
>  >
>  >   I have the same problem and i have found a workaround,
>  > just reducing the M$-windows color depth from 32 bit to 15 bits
>  > per pixel (it's the only high-color options on my driver) solves this
>  > and all icons are displayed fine.
>  >
>  >               Joan Bertran.
>  >
>  >
>
>


From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Sat Apr 13 03:52:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 03:52:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: <00e601c1e24d$5eaeaeb0$0a00a8c0@henry>
Message-ID: 

On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Matthew Bradford wrote:

> Just that a new version of kdm is spawned and then eventually it dies.  I am
> assuming this is a timeout because it cannot connect to the X server.  

You you use XDMCP from Linux with Xnest?

What dose the kdm errorlog state? Is there any session trace in 
~/.xsession-errors? Can you trace the .xinitrc or .xsession by adding 
a "set -x" at the beginning and check the output in ~/.xsession-errors


> To sum up, I can run remote X programs
> when using SSH -X, however if I telnet in and set the DISPLAY variable it
> refuses the connection no matter what.

Thats normal. See man Xsecurity

bye
    ago
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From tim.huckvale@bcs.org.uk  Sat Apr 13 05:34:00 2002
From: tim.huckvale@bcs.org.uk (Tim Huckvale)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 05:34:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <009101c1e25c$e559a2d0$0100a8c0@gateway>
Message-ID: <000301c1e2e7$840c35c0$0200a8c0@local>

Sorry, I simplified a bit. I do telnet for simple tasks, but I'm playing
around with Linux for other things as well. This is a home network, and we
were using Wingate on a Windows 95 machine as internet gateway. The
all-family frustration this was generating became my excuse to build a Linux
box over Christmas and revisit my unix-hacking roots. I went for KDE because
I'm getting to old to re-learn all that vi finger-work. Now if I could just
get DNS to work properly... - but that's another mailing list.

Tim


> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jim George
> Sent: Friday, 12 April 2002 21:02
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
>
>
> If you SuSE Linux box is only acting as a fileserver, gateway
> why run X on
> it?  If you make it run at runlevel 3 then it only needs the
> command prompt
> and you won't need xfree86 under cygwin to access it.
>
> Indeed you don't anyway, simply ssh or telnet to Linux box.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Huckvale" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:31 AM
> Subject: RE: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
>
>
> I'm interested in a minimal cygwin / xfree86 package since I'm only
> using it to control my SuSE Linux fileserver and internet
> gateway which
> sits in a corner with no keyboard or monitor. I connect via
> xdm and run
> KDE desktop. The total cygwin and xfree86 installation takes up 100
> Mbyte disk space, which seems excessive.
> ...


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sat Apr 13 08:20:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 08:20:00 -0000
Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

I submitted a bug report to KDE for this:

http://bugs.kde.org/db/40/40875.html

Hopefully we'll be able to figure out what is going on.

Harold


From warren-postma@rogers.com  Sat Apr 13 19:48:00 2002
From: warren-postma@rogers.com (Warren Postma)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 19:48:00 -0000
Subject: The usual 'could not open default font 'fixed''.
Message-ID: <003601c1e35e$cb37fe80$312a2a0a@CR551617A>

I read the cygwin-xfree installation and FAQ, and read the entry about the
Could Not Open Default Font, then I re-ran setup.exe to change the default
file type to Unix, then I reinstalled the 100dpi fonts.  Then I thought,
maybe a setting in the Cygwin.DLL is still loaded and I need to reboot.  I
rebooted, and still no luck.

So, what do you do if the FAQ doesn't help you and startx still gives the
default font error? Should I boot into linux to unpack the fonts?  This
seems pretty weird.

Warren



From gcruzicka@earthlink.net  Sun Apr 14 10:52:00 2002
From: gcruzicka@earthlink.net (Gene C. Ruzicka)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 10:52:00 -0000
Subject: Problems installing cygwin-xfree86 on a Dell WIN2K box
References:  <002601c1e22c$c537ee60$2204b4d8@default>
Message-ID: <00b601c1e3de$9df74f40$802bf4d8@HUNG>

>
>     Thanks for your response. I was, in fact, following those directions
> verbatim, on that very web page, when the Xinstall.sh script exited with
an
> error meassage saying that the extract command wasn't working properly &
> admonishing me to fix that & try again. I had just downloaded the entire
> XFree86 package Wednesday A.M. from ftp.nas.nasa.gov using the ftp command
> from the cygwin bash shell command line ("mget *" from the
> .../xfree/4.2.0/binaries directory). This download included the extract
> command which I believe Xinstall.sh tried to use to unpack everything
(after
> I copied it to the /bin directory from the bash command line). I guess my
> question is "what do I need to do to 'fix' the extract command & try
again"
> ? Would the regular tar command downloaded earlier & included w/ the basic
> cygwin package work ? Thanks in advance.
>

i had problems with the xfree-86 i downloaded from  ftp.nas.nasa.gov .
it seemed that the output from Xinstall, complained about packages that
should have been downloaded but weren't. and i think i posted a message
about that to this mailing list about problems at that ftp site.  everything
worked fine when i shfited to another ftp site, i believe it was the one at
uiuc.
 i'm not sure if this is applicable to your problem, though.







From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Sun Apr 14 14:41:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 14:41:00 -0000
Subject: The usual 'could not open default font 'fixed''.
In-Reply-To: <003601c1e35e$cb37fe80$312a2a0a@CR551617A>
Message-ID: 

On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Warren Postma wrote:

> then I reinstalled the 100dpi fonts.  

Sure that you need the 100dpi fonts? Fixed is located in the misc directory
and may be in an other package than the 100dpi fonts.

bye
    ago
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From warren-postma@rogers.com  Sun Apr 14 16:19:00 2002
From: warren-postma@rogers.com (Warren Postma)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 16:19:00 -0000
Subject: Suggested FAQ Update: 6.5. Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'
Message-ID: <001301c1e40a$d8998470$312a2a0a@CR551617A>

The FAQ listing for section 6.5. Fatal server error: could not open default
font 'fixed'
does not work. For one thing, the suggested remedy does NOT change the
mounting of the /usr directory.

A more direct fix would be to update the Xinstall.sh to do the following:

1. Check mount output for either / or /usr mounted as textmode.

2. Unmount the offending partition:
    umount /usr
    umount /
3. Remount root or usr :
    mount --binary c:/cygwin           /
    mount --binary c:/cygwin/usr     /usr


Warren






From cgf@redhat.com  Sun Apr 14 16:29:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 16:29:00 -0000
Subject: Suggested FAQ Update: 6.5. Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'
In-Reply-To: <001301c1e40a$d8998470$312a2a0a@CR551617A>
References: <001301c1e40a$d8998470$312a2a0a@CR551617A>
Message-ID: <20020414232943.GB31296@redhat.com>

On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 07:19:37PM -0400, Warren Postma wrote:
>The FAQ listing for section 6.5. Fatal server error: could not open default
>font 'fixed'
>does not work. For one thing, the suggested remedy does NOT change the
>mounting of the /usr directory.
>
>A more direct fix would be to update the Xinstall.sh to do the following:
>
>1. Check mount output for either / or /usr mounted as textmode.
>
>2. Unmount the offending partition:
>    umount /usr
>    umount /
>3. Remount root or usr :
>    mount --binary c:/cygwin           /
>    mount --binary c:/cygwin/usr     /usr

If it is just a problem with the font directory then mounting just the
font directory would be less intrusive.

Less intrusive still might be to build xfs/XFree86 with /usr/lib/binmode.o .

This will force all reads to be in binmode automatically.

cgf


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Apr 14 19:12:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 19:12:00 -0000
Subject: The usual 'could not open default font 'fixed''.
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Yeah, the default is 75 dpi fonts (and misc, etc.) unless you specifically
use the -dpi parameter.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Alexander Gottwald
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 5:52 AM
> To: Warren Postma
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: The usual 'could not open default font 'fixed''.
>
>
> On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Warren Postma wrote:
>
> > then I reinstalled the 100dpi fonts.
>
> Sure that you need the 100dpi fonts? Fixed is located in the misc
> directory
> and may be in an other package than the 100dpi fonts.
>
> bye
>     ago
> --
>  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
>  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
>  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017
>  4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4
>


From mbradford@bahaigear.com  Sun Apr 14 20:07:00 2002
From: mbradford@bahaigear.com (Matthew Bradford)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 20:07:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: <3CB792FD.8050800@znark.com>
References:  <013201c1e265$da54cf50$0a00a8c0@henry> <3CB792FD.8050800@znark.com>
Message-ID: <200204142304.20670.mbradford@bahaigear.com>

I have finally solved the problem.  However, this raises another question...

The solution by the way was to add :1 to the Xwin.exe.  Don't know why it 
worked, but it worked like a charm.  So then the question is... why? :-P

	- Matt


On Friday 12 April 2002 10:07 pm, Ian Burrell wrote:
> Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > First, thank you very much for your time and attention.  Now onto the
> > results of your last email:
> >
> > I've tried that before, but I tried it again just to be sure... and still
> > no go.
> >
> > did you get my previous email talking about the connection refused issue?
> >  I think this is related.  The only way I can get any remote X app to run
> > is when I tunnel it through SSH.  Setting the export variable doesn't
> > work. (even when i run xhost + and/or pass the -ac option to the X
> > server)  It is acting as if access control is on still.
> >
> > Any ideas on how to fix that?  I'll put ya money on it that is the issue.
> >  I just have no idea how to fix it.
>
> Also, check if you have any .Xauthority files. Try moving the existing
> ones are regenerating them. If you are running an X server, "xauth
> generate " connects to the server and generates new cookies. You
> can copy the resulting .Xauthority file to Red Hat 7.2 machine.
>
> One thing to try is turn on debugging in the XDMCP server. I don't know
> how this is done with kdm. xdm has a -debug flag.
>
>   - Ian


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Apr 14 21:19:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:19:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: <200204142304.20670.mbradford@bahaigear.com>
Message-ID: 

Matt,

Perhaps some process already owns port 6000 on your Windows machine before
you launch XWin.  Adding :1 changes the screen number to 1 (from 0) which
changes the port number to, I believe, 6001.

You can find out what ports are open by running 'netstat -a' in a 'cmd' box
on Windows XP (if that has the command prompt).

One thing that could cause port 6000 to be taken would be if you have a
commercial X Server installed.  On April 12 I asked if you had any
commercial X Servers installed:
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00273.html

You never answered.  So, do you have any commercial X Servers installed?

It makes perfect sense that port 6000 is already owned, since you can run
remote clients via ssh forwarding (which doesn't use port 6000), but you
can't run remote clients via telnet (which does use port 6000).

Let me know what you find,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:04 PM
> To: Ian Burrell
> Cc: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
>
>
> I have finally solved the problem.  However, this raises another
> question...
>
> The solution by the way was to add :1 to the Xwin.exe.  Don't know why it
> worked, but it worked like a charm.  So then the question is... why? :-P
>
> 	- Matt
>
>
> On Friday 12 April 2002 10:07 pm, Ian Burrell wrote:
> > Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > > First, thank you very much for your time and attention.  Now onto the
> > > results of your last email:
> > >
> > > I've tried that before, but I tried it again just to be
> sure... and still
> > > no go.
> > >
> > > did you get my previous email talking about the connection
> refused issue?
> > >  I think this is related.  The only way I can get any remote
> X app to run
> > > is when I tunnel it through SSH.  Setting the export variable doesn't
> > > work. (even when i run xhost + and/or pass the -ac option to the X
> > > server)  It is acting as if access control is on still.
> > >
> > > Any ideas on how to fix that?  I'll put ya money on it that
> is the issue.
> > >  I just have no idea how to fix it.
> >
> > Also, check if you have any .Xauthority files. Try moving the existing
> > ones are regenerating them. If you are running an X server, "xauth
> > generate " connects to the server and generates new cookies. You
> > can copy the resulting .Xauthority file to Red Hat 7.2 machine.
> >
> > One thing to try is turn on debugging in the XDMCP server. I don't know
> > how this is done with kdm. xdm has a -debug flag.
> >
> >   - Ian
>


From mbradford@bahaigear.com  Sun Apr 14 22:21:00 2002
From: mbradford@bahaigear.com (Matthew Bradford)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 22:21:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <200204150118.03126.mbradford@bahaigear.com>

Harold,
	Sorry for not responding to the commercial X server question.  The answer to 
that one is no as well.  I was going to try and get exceed, but then saw this 
and I couldn't pass up free.  (Also, I like the codebase in XFree much better 
than any commercial X server I've seen for win32)  I knew that :1 changed the 
screen to 1 rather than 0, and after performing the netstat -a.. sure enough 
there is something listening on port 6000.  

	My best guess is that annoying pc-anywhere thing built into XP.  I don't know 
though.  I feel much better now that everything works though. :-)

Thank you very much for your help.
	- Matt


On Monday 15 April 2002 12:18 am, Harold Hunt wrote:
> Matt,
>
> Perhaps some process already owns port 6000 on your Windows machine before
> you launch XWin.  Adding :1 changes the screen number to 1 (from 0) which
> changes the port number to, I believe, 6001.
>
> You can find out what ports are open by running 'netstat -a' in a 'cmd' box
> on Windows XP (if that has the command prompt).
>
> One thing that could cause port 6000 to be taken would be if you have a
> commercial X Server installed.  On April 12 I asked if you had any
> commercial X Servers installed:
> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00273.html
>
> You never answered.  So, do you have any commercial X Servers installed?
>
> It makes perfect sense that port 6000 is already owned, since you can run
> remote clients via ssh forwarding (which doesn't use port 6000), but you
> can't run remote clients via telnet (which does use port 6000).
>
> Let me know what you find,
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:04 PM
> > To: Ian Burrell
> > Cc: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> >
> >
> > I have finally solved the problem.  However, this raises another
> > question...
> >
> > The solution by the way was to add :1 to the Xwin.exe.  Don't know why it
> > worked, but it worked like a charm.  So then the question is... why? :-P
> >
> > 	- Matt
> >
> > On Friday 12 April 2002 10:07 pm, Ian Burrell wrote:
> > > Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > > > First, thank you very much for your time and attention.  Now onto the
> > > > results of your last email:
> > > >
> > > > I've tried that before, but I tried it again just to be
> >
> > sure... and still
> >
> > > > no go.
> > > >
> > > > did you get my previous email talking about the connection
> >
> > refused issue?
> >
> > > >  I think this is related.  The only way I can get any remote
> >
> > X app to run
> >
> > > > is when I tunnel it through SSH.  Setting the export variable doesn't
> > > > work. (even when i run xhost + and/or pass the -ac option to the X
> > > > server)  It is acting as if access control is on still.
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas on how to fix that?  I'll put ya money on it that
> >
> > is the issue.
> >
> > > >  I just have no idea how to fix it.
> > >
> > > Also, check if you have any .Xauthority files. Try moving the existing
> > > ones are regenerating them. If you are running an X server, "xauth
> > > generate " connects to the server and generates new cookies. You
> > > can copy the resulting .Xauthority file to Red Hat 7.2 machine.
> > >
> > > One thing to try is turn on debugging in the XDMCP server. I don't know
> > > how this is done with kdm. xdm has a -debug flag.
> > >
> > >   - Ian


From perryh@pluto.rain.com  Mon Apr 15 00:11:00 2002
From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 00:11:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
Message-ID: <10204150655.AA14507@pluto.rain.com>

OK, I've installed Cygwin and XFree86 on a Windows 95 system.  When
I try to run C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe, I get an error box:

    Error Starting Program

              A required .DLL file, CYGWIN1.DLL, was not found.

That file does exist, in C:\cygwin\bin.  Rebooting does not help.
What part of the installation process did I miss?

The only things I found in the FAQ that seem even remotely related are
1.8 and 2.3.  They mention a startxwin.bat, which I can't find on my
system.  There's also a mention of a HOW-TO, but the only such file I
can find is HOW-TO-CONTRIBUTE which is a little beyond where I've been
able to get to so far :)


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 15 04:27:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 04:27:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: <200204150118.03126.mbradford@bahaigear.com>
Message-ID: 

Matt,

It's good to know that something is listening on port 6000; however, I don't
think that it is Windows XP's  Remote Assistance feature.  The only port
number I can find mentioned with documents on that feature is 3389.
Besides, if Microsoft did something so stupid as to set the default port
number the same as the well-known X Window System port number then we would
have surely heard about it by now.  Not to mention the fact that all of our
Windows XP users would be having the same problem that you are having.

I'd be interested to know what program on your computer is actually taking
port 6000, for future reference.

Thanks,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:18 AM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
>
>
> Harold,
> 	Sorry for not responding to the commercial X server
> question.  The answer to
> that one is no as well.  I was going to try and get exceed, but
> then saw this
> and I couldn't pass up free.  (Also, I like the codebase in XFree
> much better
> than any commercial X server I've seen for win32)  I knew that :1
> changed the
> screen to 1 rather than 0, and after performing the netstat -a..
> sure enough
> there is something listening on port 6000.
>
> 	My best guess is that annoying pc-anywhere thing built into
> XP.  I don't know
> though.  I feel much better now that everything works though. :-)
>
> Thank you very much for your help.
> 	- Matt
>
>
> On Monday 15 April 2002 12:18 am, Harold Hunt wrote:
> > Matt,
> >
> > Perhaps some process already owns port 6000 on your Windows
> machine before
> > you launch XWin.  Adding :1 changes the screen number to 1
> (from 0) which
> > changes the port number to, I believe, 6001.
> >
> > You can find out what ports are open by running 'netstat -a' in
> a 'cmd' box
> > on Windows XP (if that has the command prompt).
> >
> > One thing that could cause port 6000 to be taken would be if you have a
> > commercial X Server installed.  On April 12 I asked if you had any
> > commercial X Servers installed:
> > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00273.html
> >
> > You never answered.  So, do you have any commercial X Servers installed?
> >
> > It makes perfect sense that port 6000 is already owned, since
> you can run
> > remote clients via ssh forwarding (which doesn't use port 6000), but you
> > can't run remote clients via telnet (which does use port 6000).
> >
> > Let me know what you find,
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:04 PM
> > > To: Ian Burrell
> > > Cc: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > >
> > >
> > > I have finally solved the problem.  However, this raises another
> > > question...
> > >
> > > The solution by the way was to add :1 to the Xwin.exe.  Don't
> know why it
> > > worked, but it worked like a charm.  So then the question
> is... why? :-P
> > >
> > > 	- Matt
> > >
> > > On Friday 12 April 2002 10:07 pm, Ian Burrell wrote:
> > > > Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > > > > First, thank you very much for your time and attention.
> Now onto the
> > > > > results of your last email:
> > > > >
> > > > > I've tried that before, but I tried it again just to be
> > >
> > > sure... and still
> > >
> > > > > no go.
> > > > >
> > > > > did you get my previous email talking about the connection
> > >
> > > refused issue?
> > >
> > > > >  I think this is related.  The only way I can get any remote
> > >
> > > X app to run
> > >
> > > > > is when I tunnel it through SSH.  Setting the export
> variable doesn't
> > > > > work. (even when i run xhost + and/or pass the -ac option to the X
> > > > > server)  It is acting as if access control is on still.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any ideas on how to fix that?  I'll put ya money on it that
> > >
> > > is the issue.
> > >
> > > > >  I just have no idea how to fix it.
> > > >
> > > > Also, check if you have any .Xauthority files. Try moving
> the existing
> > > > ones are regenerating them. If you are running an X server, "xauth
> > > > generate " connects to the server and generates new
> cookies. You
> > > > can copy the resulting .Xauthority file to Red Hat 7.2 machine.
> > > >
> > > > One thing to try is turn on debugging in the XDMCP server.
> I don't know
> > > > how this is done with kdm. xdm has a -debug flag.
> > > >
> > > >   - Ian
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 15 04:29:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 04:29:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
In-Reply-To: <10204150655.AA14507@pluto.rain.com>
Message-ID: 

Perry,

You're reading the ancient FAQ.  You need the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide
and the newer FAQ located at:

http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/

To better design our site, can I ask how you happened to completely miss the
documentation page while still finding your way to the old FAQ?

Thanks,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Perry Hutchison
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 2:56 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: How do I run it?
>
>
> OK, I've installed Cygwin and XFree86 on a Windows 95 system.  When
> I try to run C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe, I get an error box:
>
>     Error Starting Program
>
>               A required .DLL file, CYGWIN1.DLL, was not found.
>
> That file does exist, in C:\cygwin\bin.  Rebooting does not help.
> What part of the installation process did I miss?
>
> The only things I found in the FAQ that seem even remotely related are
> 1.8 and 2.3.  They mention a startxwin.bat, which I can't find on my
> system.  There's also a mention of a HOW-TO, but the only such file I
> can find is HOW-TO-CONTRIBUTE which is a little beyond where I've been
> able to get to so far :)
>


From michaelr@sedata.com  Mon Apr 15 08:27:00 2002
From: michaelr@sedata.com (Michael Reaser)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 08:27:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86 4.2.0 under Cygwin on Win98 w/ i810 won't display CDE fro
	m HPUX
Message-ID: <1E5BB4E16573714B9A0CB774B2AB0CC6164691@mailserver.sedata.com>


I've got a Dell PC running Win98 on which I've installed Cygwin from 
 followed by XFree86 from 
(specifically, archive.progeny.com, and for X I grabbed the binaries
from /cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0).  I only brought down the binaries,
as I *really* didn't want to compile Linux or X myself to sit on top of
Win98 (no, I can't just take the PCs to Linux, they have to stay on some
flavor of Windoze) nor any of the X pieces, since someone else had 
already "invented the wheel".

Unfortunately, the PC has an i810, so XWin is giving me fits.  It works
fine from another PC without the Intel 810 chipset, and works right 
if I just invoke it from the Bash shell using 

XWin -screen 0 1024 768 

I get a standard X desktop, can telnet to my "main" Unix system (a 9000
running HP-UX 11.11), and throw clients back to the server running on 
the PC.

However, if I invoke XWin using

XWin -query aa.bb.cc.dd -fp tcp/aa.bb.cc.dd:7000 

(where aa.bb.cc.dd is the IP address of my HP 9000 system)

to try to get HP-UX to throw a CDE login screen back at me via xdm, 
XWin runs, it changes to a gray stippled screen, and there I sit.  No
change to the black screen that indicates I've connected to the 9000,
no login screen from the HP, no nothing.  Just a big ol' hang that will
eventually time out.

Contents of the "bad" /tmp/XWin.log:

ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000017
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits per
pixel
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l 0 b
715 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 2036
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 16
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning

Fatal server error:
XDMCP fatal error: Session failed Session 6 failed for display 0.0.0.0:0:
Cannot open display


On another Dell PC, with the only difference (that I can discover) 
being that it has an 82810-DC100 Graphics controller, XWin runs and 
lets the HP show first its black background, followed by the CDE 
login screen, with no complaint.  I can then login to the HPUX system 
and "go to town", so to speak.

Contents of the "good" /tmp/XWin.log:

ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 800 h 600
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000017
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits per
pixel
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 572 800
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 572 800
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 794 h 547 r 794 l 0 b
547 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 2384
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winCloseScreenShadowDDNL () - Freeing screen resources


I've searched the XFree86 archives, and see a lot of references to getting 
a copy of agpgart.o and compiling it into your kernel to get an i810 to
play nicely.  Well, (a) I really don't want to have to re-compile Cygwin
for Win98 if someone else already has, (b) I have no idea where to
get a copy of agpgart.o which would work in that instance, anyway, and 
(c) since the HP can communicate to XFree86 just fine in "normal"
mode, I can't believe this is because of a driver issue.

Can anyone give me any pointers on what I should do to get XFree86
on an i810 chipset to give me an xdm-based login from another system?
And/or tell me what further information I should have included in my
message that y'all expect?

Thanks,

Mike Reaser
Southeastern Data Cooperative
Tucker, GA



From n.escuder@alineanet.com  Mon Apr 15 09:54:00 2002
From: n.escuder@alineanet.com (Escuder Nicolas)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:54:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
References: 
Message-ID: <001c01c1e49c$dceb8c20$6745a8c0@ALINEA.FR>

The port 3389 is the port for RDP connection
not for remote assistance ...
and on mine XP the port 6000 is not listening
I have Assistance enable
and RDP enable :o)
see you :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: "Matthew Bradford" 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:27 PM
Subject: RE: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2


> Matt,
>
> It's good to know that something is listening on port 6000; however, I
don't
> think that it is Windows XP's  Remote Assistance feature.  The only port
> number I can find mentioned with documents on that feature is 3389.
> Besides, if Microsoft did something so stupid as to set the default port
> number the same as the well-known X Window System port number then we
would
> have surely heard about it by now.  Not to mention the fact that all of
our
> Windows XP users would be having the same problem that you are having.
>
> I'd be interested to know what program on your computer is actually taking
> port 6000, for future reference.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:18 AM
> > To: Harold Hunt
> > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> >
> >
> > Harold,
> > Sorry for not responding to the commercial X server
> > question.  The answer to
> > that one is no as well.  I was going to try and get exceed, but
> > then saw this
> > and I couldn't pass up free.  (Also, I like the codebase in XFree
> > much better
> > than any commercial X server I've seen for win32)  I knew that :1
> > changed the
> > screen to 1 rather than 0, and after performing the netstat -a..
> > sure enough
> > there is something listening on port 6000.
> >
> > My best guess is that annoying pc-anywhere thing built into
> > XP.  I don't know
> > though.  I feel much better now that everything works though. :-)
> >
> > Thank you very much for your help.
> > - Matt
> >
> >
> > On Monday 15 April 2002 12:18 am, Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > Matt,
> > >
> > > Perhaps some process already owns port 6000 on your Windows
> > machine before
> > > you launch XWin.  Adding :1 changes the screen number to 1
> > (from 0) which
> > > changes the port number to, I believe, 6001.
> > >
> > > You can find out what ports are open by running 'netstat -a' in
> > a 'cmd' box
> > > on Windows XP (if that has the command prompt).
> > >
> > > One thing that could cause port 6000 to be taken would be if you have
a
> > > commercial X Server installed.  On April 12 I asked if you had any
> > > commercial X Servers installed:
> > > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00273.html
> > >
> > > You never answered.  So, do you have any commercial X Servers
installed?
> > >
> > > It makes perfect sense that port 6000 is already owned, since
> > you can run
> > > remote clients via ssh forwarding (which doesn't use port 6000), but
you
> > > can't run remote clients via telnet (which does use port 6000).
> > >
> > > Let me know what you find,
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:04 PM
> > > > To: Ian Burrell
> > > > Cc: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have finally solved the problem.  However, this raises another
> > > > question...
> > > >
> > > > The solution by the way was to add :1 to the Xwin.exe.  Don't
> > know why it
> > > > worked, but it worked like a charm.  So then the question
> > is... why? :-P
> > > >
> > > > - Matt
> > > >
> > > > On Friday 12 April 2002 10:07 pm, Ian Burrell wrote:
> > > > > Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > > > > > First, thank you very much for your time and attention.
> > Now onto the
> > > > > > results of your last email:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've tried that before, but I tried it again just to be
> > > >
> > > > sure... and still
> > > >
> > > > > > no go.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > did you get my previous email talking about the connection
> > > >
> > > > refused issue?
> > > >
> > > > > >  I think this is related.  The only way I can get any remote
> > > >
> > > > X app to run
> > > >
> > > > > > is when I tunnel it through SSH.  Setting the export
> > variable doesn't
> > > > > > work. (even when i run xhost + and/or pass the -ac option to the
X
> > > > > > server)  It is acting as if access control is on still.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any ideas on how to fix that?  I'll put ya money on it that
> > > >
> > > > is the issue.
> > > >
> > > > > >  I just have no idea how to fix it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, check if you have any .Xauthority files. Try moving
> > the existing
> > > > > ones are regenerating them. If you are running an X server, "xauth
> > > > > generate " connects to the server and generates new
> > cookies. You
> > > > > can copy the resulting .Xauthority file to Red Hat 7.2 machine.
> > > > >
> > > > > One thing to try is turn on debugging in the XDMCP server.
> > I don't know
> > > > > how this is done with kdm. xdm has a -debug flag.
> > > > >
> > > > >   - Ian
> >


From mbradford@bahaigear.com  Mon Apr 15 11:06:00 2002
From: mbradford@bahaigear.com (Matthew Bradford)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:06:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86 4.2.0 under Cygwin on Win98 w/ i810 won't display CDE fro m HPUX
In-Reply-To: <1E5BB4E16573714B9A0CB774B2AB0CC6164691@mailserver.sedata.com>
References: <1E5BB4E16573714B9A0CB774B2AB0CC6164691@mailserver.sedata.com>
Message-ID: <200204151403.06635.mbradford@bahaigear.com>

Mike,
	Try adding -from your_ip_address in your XWin.exe command.  Windows may be 
reporting a hostname that your sun box doesn't know how to translate back to 
an IP.  And 0.0.0.0 in that error log seems to go well with that.  So then 
the full command you'd want to try would be:

XWin -query aa.bb.cc.dd -fp tcp/aa.bb.cc.dd:7000 -from aa.bb.cc.dd

Hope that works for you.
	- Matt

On Monday 15 April 2002 11:26 am, Michael Reaser wrote:
> I've got a Dell PC running Win98 on which I've installed Cygwin from
>  followed by XFree86 from 
> (specifically, archive.progeny.com, and for X I grabbed the binaries
> from /cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0).  I only brought down the binaries,
> as I *really* didn't want to compile Linux or X myself to sit on top of
> Win98 (no, I can't just take the PCs to Linux, they have to stay on some
> flavor of Windoze) nor any of the X pieces, since someone else had
> already "invented the wheel".
>
> Unfortunately, the PC has an i810, so XWin is giving me fits.  It works
> fine from another PC without the Intel 810 chipset, and works right
> if I just invoke it from the Bash shell using
>
> XWin -screen 0 1024 768
>
> I get a standard X desktop, can telnet to my "main" Unix system (a 9000
> running HP-UX 11.11), and throw clients back to the server running on
> the PC.
>
> However, if I invoke XWin using
>
> XWin -query aa.bb.cc.dd -fp tcp/aa.bb.cc.dd:7000
>
> (where aa.bb.cc.dd is the IP address of my HP 9000 system)
>
> to try to get HP-UX to throw a CDE login screen back at me via xdm,
> XWin runs, it changes to a gray stippled screen, and there I sit.  No
> change to the black screen that indicates I've connected to the 9000,
> no login screen from the HP, no nothing.  Just a big ol' hang that will
> eventually time out.
>
> Contents of the "bad" /tmp/XWin.log:
>
> ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
> winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
> _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000017
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits
> per pixel
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l 0 b
> 715 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 2036
> winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d 16
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 16
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
>
> Fatal server error:
> XDMCP fatal error: Session failed Session 6 failed for display 0.0.0.0:0:
> Cannot open display
>
>
> On another Dell PC, with the only difference (that I can discover)
> being that it has an 82810-DC100 Graphics controller, XWin runs and
> lets the HP show first its black background, followed by the CDE
> login screen, with no complaint.  I can then login to the HPUX system
> and "go to town", so to speak.
>
> Contents of the "good" /tmp/XWin.log:
>
> ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
> winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 800 h 600
> _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000017
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits
> per pixel
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 572 800
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 572 800
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 794 h 547 r 794 l 0 b
> 547 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 2384
> winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winCloseScreenShadowDDNL () - Freeing screen resources
>
>
> I've searched the XFree86 archives, and see a lot of references to getting
> a copy of agpgart.o and compiling it into your kernel to get an i810 to
> play nicely.  Well, (a) I really don't want to have to re-compile Cygwin
> for Win98 if someone else already has, (b) I have no idea where to
> get a copy of agpgart.o which would work in that instance, anyway, and
> (c) since the HP can communicate to XFree86 just fine in "normal"
> mode, I can't believe this is because of a driver issue.
>
> Can anyone give me any pointers on what I should do to get XFree86
> on an i810 chipset to give me an xdm-based login from another system?
> And/or tell me what further information I should have included in my
> message that y'all expect?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Reaser
> Southeastern Data Cooperative
> Tucker, GA


From iburrell@znark.com  Mon Apr 15 11:19:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:19:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86 4.2.0 under Cygwin on Win98 w/ i810 won't display CDE
 fro	m HPUX
References: <1E5BB4E16573714B9A0CB774B2AB0CC6164691@mailserver.sedata.com>
Message-ID: <3CBB199E.8020305@znark.com>

Michael Reaser wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately, the PC has an i810, so XWin is giving me fits.  It works
> fine from another PC without the Intel 810 chipset, and works right 
> if I just invoke it from the Bash shell using 
> 

The chipset shouldn't matter one bit. XWin doesn't use the XFree86 video 
drivers.

> 
> I've searched the XFree86 archives, and see a lot of references to getting 
> a copy of agpgart.o and compiling it into your kernel to get an i810 to
> play nicely.  Well, (a) I really don't want to have to re-compile Cygwin
> for Win98 if someone else already has, (b) I have no idea where to
> get a copy of agpgart.o which would work in that instance, anyway, and 
> (c) since the HP can communicate to XFree86 just fine in "normal"
> mode, I can't believe this is because of a driver issue.
> 
> Can anyone give me any pointers on what I should do to get XFree86
> on an i810 chipset to give me an xdm-based login from another system?
> And/or tell me what further information I should have included in my
> message that y'all expect?
> 

The first thing to check is that the server works locally. The second 
thing to check is that you can connect from the remote machine without 
XDMCP.

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From iburrell@znark.com  Mon Apr 15 11:20:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:20:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
References: <10204150655.AA14507@pluto.rain.com>
Message-ID: <3CBB19EE.7040802@znark.com>

Perry Hutchison wrote:
> OK, I've installed Cygwin and XFree86 on a Windows 95 system.  When
> I try to run C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe, I get an error box:
> 
>     Error Starting Program
> 
>               A required .DLL file, CYGWIN1.DLL, was not found.
> 
> That file does exist, in C:\cygwin\bin.  Rebooting does not help.
> What part of the installation process did I miss?
> 
> The only things I found in the FAQ that seem even remotely related are
> 1.8 and 2.3.  They mention a startxwin.bat, which I can't find on my
> system.  There's also a mention of a HOW-TO, but the only such file I
> can find is HOW-TO-CONTRIBUTE which is a little beyond where I've been
> able to get to so far :)
> 

Check your PATH. It needs to include c:\cygwin\bin. How are you trying 
to run XWin? From a bash shell? From the run box?

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From S.Opitz@gmx.de  Mon Apr 15 11:20:00 2002
From: S.Opitz@gmx.de (Sven Opitz)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:20:00 -0000
Subject: 2 screens and XDMCP
Message-ID: 

Hi all,

I have a small problem with XFree 4.2:

I have two screens on my WinNT SP6a with a screen resolution of 2560x1024.
When I open via XDMCP a linux kde window, it opens at 1280x1024, that is 
absolutely ok, but when the mouse goes down and the hidden task bar comes 
up, the kde window is redrawn at 2560x1024 in the 1280x1024 window.
I even could live with that and be absolutely happy.

But the kde really gives me a 2560x1024 window, so that some windows are 
out of reach.

I use this line to start the connection:
XWin -query ipaddress

I tried XWin 0 1280 1024 -query ipaddress, but that didn't work at all

Thanx
Sven



From S.Opitz@gmx.de  Mon Apr 15 11:28:00 2002
From: S.Opitz@gmx.de (Sven Opitz)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:28:00 -0000
Subject: 2 screens and XDMCP
References: 
Message-ID: 

Sorry, found the answer:

Sven Opitz  wrote in news:a9f57u$jig$1@main.gmane.org:

> I tried XWin 0 1280 1024 -query ipaddress, but that didn't work at all

I changed this line to XWin -screen 0 1280 1024 -query ipaddress

Thanx anyway
Sven



From michaelr@sedata.com  Mon Apr 15 11:36:00 2002
From: michaelr@sedata.com (Michael Reaser)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:36:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86 4.2.0 under Cygwin on Win98 w/ i810 won't display CDE
	 fro m HPUX
Message-ID: <1E5BB4E16573714B9A0CB774B2AB0CC6164693@mailserver.sedata.com>


Thanks, Matt!

Adding "-from <>" on the unsociable PC's let them begin
"playing nicely on the playground" with my HP-UX system and CDE.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Mike Reaser
Southeastern Data Cooperative
Tucker, GA

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Bradford [mailto:mbradford@bahaigear.com]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 2:03 PM
To: Michael Reaser; 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
Subject: Re: XFree86 4.2.0 under Cygwin on Win98 w/ i810 won't display
CDE fro m HPUX


Mike,
	Try adding -from your_ip_address in your XWin.exe command.  Windows
may be 
reporting a hostname that your sun box doesn't know how to translate back to

an IP.  And 0.0.0.0 in that error log seems to go well with that.  So then 
the full command you'd want to try would be:

XWin -query aa.bb.cc.dd -fp tcp/aa.bb.cc.dd:7000 -from aa.bb.cc.dd

Hope that works for you.
	- Matt

On Monday 15 April 2002 11:26 am, Michael Reaser wrote:
> I've got a Dell PC running Win98 on which I've installed Cygwin from
>  followed by XFree86 from 
> (specifically, archive.progeny.com, and for X I grabbed the binaries
> from /cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0).  I only brought down the binaries,
> as I *really* didn't want to compile Linux or X myself to sit on top of
> Win98 (no, I can't just take the PCs to Linux, they have to stay on some
> flavor of Windoze) nor any of the X pieces, since someone else had
> already "invented the wheel".
>
> Unfortunately, the PC has an i810, so XWin is giving me fits.  It works
> fine from another PC without the Intel 810 chipset, and works right
> if I just invoke it from the Bash shell using
>
> XWin -screen 0 1024 768
>
> I get a standard X desktop, can telnet to my "main" Unix system (a 9000
> running HP-UX 11.11), and throw clients back to the server running on
> the PC.
>
> However, if I invoke XWin using
>
> XWin -query aa.bb.cc.dd -fp tcp/aa.bb.cc.dd:7000
>
> (where aa.bb.cc.dd is the IP address of my HP 9000 system)
>
> to try to get HP-UX to throw a CDE login screen back at me via xdm,
> XWin runs, it changes to a gray stippled screen, and there I sit.  No
> change to the black screen that indicates I've connected to the 9000,
> no login screen from the HP, no nothing.  Just a big ol' hang that will
> eventually time out.
>
> Contents of the "bad" /tmp/XWin.log:
>
> ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
> winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
> _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000017
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 16 bits
> per pixel
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l 0
b
> 715 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 2036
> winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 0000f800 000007e0 0000001f BPRGB 6 d
16
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 16
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
>
> Fatal server error:
> XDMCP fatal error: Session failed Session 6 failed for display 0.0.0.0:0:
> Cannot open display
>
>
> On another Dell PC, with the only difference (that I can discover)
> being that it has an 82810-DC100 Graphics controller, XWin runs and
> lets the HP show first its black background, followed by the CDE
> login screen, with no complaint.  I can then login to the HPUX system
> and "go to town", so to speak.
>
> Contents of the "good" /tmp/XWin.log:
>
> ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
> winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 800 h 600
> _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 00000017
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits
> per pixel
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 572 800
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 572 800
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 794 h 547 r 794 l 0 b
> 547 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 2384
> winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winCloseScreenShadowDDNL () - Freeing screen resources
>
>
> I've searched the XFree86 archives, and see a lot of references to getting
> a copy of agpgart.o and compiling it into your kernel to get an i810 to
> play nicely.  Well, (a) I really don't want to have to re-compile Cygwin
> for Win98 if someone else already has, (b) I have no idea where to
> get a copy of agpgart.o which would work in that instance, anyway, and
> (c) since the HP can communicate to XFree86 just fine in "normal"
> mode, I can't believe this is because of a driver issue.
>
> Can anyone give me any pointers on what I should do to get XFree86
> on an i810 chipset to give me an xdm-based login from another system?
> And/or tell me what further information I should have included in my
> message that y'all expect?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Reaser
> Southeastern Data Cooperative
> Tucker, GA


From gp@familiehaase.de  Mon Apr 15 13:39:00 2002
From: gp@familiehaase.de (Gerrit P. Haase)
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:39:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
In-Reply-To: <10204150655.AA14507@pluto.rain.com>
References: <10204150655.AA14507@pluto.rain.com>
Message-ID: <14184251447.20020415223912@familiehaase.de>

Hallo Perry,

Am 2002-04-15 um 08:55 schriebst du:

> OK, I've installed Cygwin and XFree86 on a Windows 95 system.  When
> I try to run C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe, I get an error box:

>     Error Starting Program

>               A required .DLL file, CYGWIN1.DLL, was not found.

> That file does exist, in C:\cygwin\bin.  Rebooting does not help.
> What part of the installation process did I miss?

> The only things I found in the FAQ that seem even remotely related are
> 1.8 and 2.3.  They mention a startxwin.bat, which I can't find on my
> system.  There's also a mention of a HOW-TO, but the only such file I
> can find is HOW-TO-CONTRIBUTE which is a little beyond where I've been
> able to get to so far :)


Use startxwin.sh to start the X server.
Add \cygwin\bin to your PATH in Windows.
Add \cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin to your PATH in Windows.

To start Xwin with startxwin.sh you need to open a Cygwin shell
(double-click on the Cygwin shortcut at desktop) or double-click
\cygwin\cygwin.bat
Then enter in the shell:
$ cd /usr/X11R6/bin
$ startxwin.sh

Is it running now?


Gerrit
-- 
=^..^=


From staf.verhaegen@imec.be  Tue Apr 16 00:11:00 2002
From: staf.verhaegen@imec.be (Staf Verhaegen)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 00:11:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
References: <10204151555.AA17839@pluto.rain.com>
Message-ID: <3CBBCEA9.4D208157@imec.be>

Perry Hutchison wrote:
> 

Perry,
Please reply to the mailing list.

> > > OK, I've installed Cygwin and XFree86 on a Windows 95 system.  When
> > > I try to run C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe, I get an error box:
> > >
> > >     Error Starting Program
> > >
> > >               A required .DLL file, CYGWIN1.DLL, was not found.
> > >
> > > That file does exist, in C:\cygwin\bin.  Rebooting does not help.
> > > What part of the installation process did I miss?
> >
> > Is C:\cygwin\bin in your Windows PATH ? If not he will not be able to find the
> > DLL.
> 
> Now it seems to do nothing at all.  No sign of it on the screen, nor on
> the taskbar, nor in the tray.  Is there a "getting started" doc somewhere?
> 
> I wonder if there's something wrong with the way I went about getting
> it into the path (PATH=%PATH%;C:\CYGWIN\BIN prior to starting Windows).
> In NT, PATH and other environment settings can be adjusted in Control
> Panel/System; but 95 doesn't seem to work that way.

On 95 you have to set the path in autoexec.bat.
It works from here when I start XWin out of a DOS window so other people will
need to help you.
What is the output of the 'mount' command ?
What if you type 'ls /usr/X11R6'

Staf.


From perryh@pluto.rain.com  Tue Apr 16 00:14:00 2002
From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 00:14:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
Message-ID: <10204160705.AA24159@pluto.rain.com>

> From: "Harold Hunt" 
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 07:29:29 -0400

> You're reading the ancient FAQ ...
> To better design our site, can I ask how you happened to completely miss
> the documentation page while still finding your way to the old FAQ?

The path I followed is:

Start at http://www.cygwin.com/

Follow the XFree86 link (16th entry in the gray box on the left) to
http://cygwin.com/xfree/

Follow the Frequently Asked Questions link (15th entry in the gray box
on the left) to http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/

Download the .TXT format;
Also follow the link to http://xfree86.cygwin.com/faq.html

I looked through both.  The only entries which seemed relevant
to the problem at hand were in what seems to be the "old" FAQ.
Of course, it's possible that I missed something.


From perryh@pluto.rain.com  Tue Apr 16 00:50:00 2002
From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 00:50:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
Message-ID: <10204160745.AA24518@pluto.rain.com>

> > I try to run C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe, I get an error box:
> >     Error Starting Program
> >               A required .DLL file, CYGWIN1.DLL, was not found.
...
> > What part of the installation process did I miss?
...
> Use startxwin.sh to start the X server.
> Add \cygwin\bin to your PATH in Windows.
> Add \cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin to your PATH in Windows.

startxwin.sh did not get installed.  Neither did startxwin.bat,
mentioned in one of the FAQ's.  I have to wonder what else may be
missing.

I did add C:\cygwin\bin and C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin to the Windows
PATH.  Now when I try to run XWin.exe from Start/Run, the mouse cursor
changes to arrow+hourglass for a few seconds, then changes back to a
plain arrow leaving no sign of anything having been started.  There's
no window, nothing added to the taskbar, nothing added to the system
tray.  Running it from Cygwin bash is the same, adding only the report
"Exit 1" when it terminates.


From perryh@pluto.rain.com  Tue Apr 16 01:40:00 2002
From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 01:40:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
Message-ID: <10204160831.AA24971@pluto.rain.com>

> What is the output of the 'mount' command ?
C:\cygwin\bin on /usr/bin type system (binmode)
C:\cygwin\lib on /usr/lib type system (binmode)
C:\cygwin on / type system (binmode)
c: on /cygdrive/c type user (binmode,noumount)
d: on /cygdrive/d type user (binmode,noumount)

> What if you type 'ls /usr/X11R6'
bin  include  lib  man


From U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de  Tue Apr 16 04:41:00 2002
From: U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de (Uwe Schmidtmann)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 04:41:00 -0000
Subject: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing Xfree
Message-ID: <3CBC0F5F.30204@visicon-online.de>


Hello.

I have one question about speed issues concerning different "Host" 
operating systems of the cygwin environment.

Here at work I am using cygwin with the latest X11 binaries on an 800 
MHz PIII and an Nvideo Vanta Graphics adaptor. X11 is quite usable with 
this setup although the speed loss compared to LinuX on this machine 
(even when "just" displaying softawre from our server) is high. But 
nothing to complain here.

But with the same configuration of Cygwin and X11 (this one was updated 
5 days ago) on my 800 MHz Athlon at home (freshly intalled 6 days ago, 
ATI Graphics) X11 is almost unsable (e.g. I can type almost faster than 
nedit can diplays it).

The main difference is that the slow system has Win98SE installed. Oh 
yes - there is also a difference in RAM: this machine has 512 MB, the 
slower one at home "only" has 256 MB which I would assume should suffice...

What is interesting though is, that when I use the demo version of MiX 
(Micro Images X Server) I get the same performance as with the NT 
machine, while on the NT box MiX and X11 running on Cygwin perform 
almost the same.

So now the question: is that a known issue or have I made a mistake when 
instlling the system?

Regards,

Uwe


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 16 04:55:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 04:55:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
In-Reply-To: <10204160705.AA24159@pluto.rain.com>
Message-ID: 

Perry,

> The path I followed is:
>
> Start at http://www.cygwin.com/
>
> Follow the XFree86 link (16th entry in the gray box on the left) to
> http://cygwin.com/xfree/
>
> Follow the Frequently Asked Questions link (15th entry in the gray box
> on the left) to http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
>
> Download the .TXT format;
> Also follow the link to http://xfree86.cygwin.com/faq.html

That won't happen again.  I removed the link to the old FAQ.  Let me tell
you, it is giving you false hope.

[To others who are helping answer this question - stop talking about how to
set your path, etc.  The real problem here is that the user was unable to
find the installation instructions that have already been prepared.]

You *have* to follow the step-by-step installation instructions in the
Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide or we cannot help you:
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/

The User's Guide tells you how to install Cygwin/XFree86, including the
startup batch files and shell scripts.  I can guarantee that you will not be
successful in installing Cygwin/XFree86 until you follow those instructions.

I recommend that you revert all PATH changes that were made in your
autoexec.bat or through the environment settings in Windows.  The
startxwin.bat and startxwin.sh scripts automatically set the path to what it
needs to be.  Much time was spent on those scripts to save users from having
to mess with the path statements themselves.

Good luck,

Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 16 05:00:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 05:00:00 -0000
Subject: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing Xfree
In-Reply-To: <3CBC0F5F.30204@visicon-online.de>
Message-ID: 

Uwe,

Yes, the performance difference is known and expected.  Some of the
difference is due to optimizations in Cygwin that cannot be used on Windows
95/98/Me and some of the difference is due to the speed of the graphics
libraries in Windows 95/98/Me vs. Windows NT/2000.  MI/X doesn't run into
the graphics speed differences because they use GDI drawing functions which
can be significantly accelerated by the graphics card and driver, whereas
Cygwin/XFree86 primarily uses large bit block transfers which appear to just
be slower on Windows 95/98/Me.

We have been working on a version of Cygwin/XFree86 that uses GDI drawing
functions directly, but the work is nowhere near complete or even usable.
The development of that server can be followed at:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/xoncygwin

Hope that helps,

Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 16 06:07:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 06:07:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing Xfree
Message-ID: 

Uwe forgot to cc the mailing list in his response.

Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: Uwe Schmidtmann [mailto:U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de]
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 8:54 AM
To: Harold Hunt
Subject: Re: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing
Xfree


Hello.

Thanks for the extremely fast answer - it was about what I feared to
hear. It would have been more pleasant to hear about a configuration
trap I stumbled into - so it depends on how to define "it helps".

My problem is, that I try to develop a "CCD" Camera for astronomical
purposes (not really CCD for the moment as I want to try a CMOS imaging
sensor). The control software is running under X11 (a very early version
can be found on my homepage http://www.brunsteinobs.de.vu/, an update
about the project will be done after a short introduction on a meeting
in Mai), but the hardware programming environment uses Windows - so I
was hoping to use cygwin and X11 to run my control application and nedit
  to test changes in the hardware.

Here at work I use the system to monitor and configure our server and
gateway...


Anyway: is there any cheap workaround with free or at least cheap server
software apart from MiX? Xwin32 runs extremely well but is much to
expensive for being used only once a week as a private person?

Apart from that: All programmers supporting the cygwin project did a
great job. The whole system is getting better and better...

I do not much about X-Server internals or Windows internals - but if you
need a guinnea pig (hope the spelling is right, I just mean someone to
be willing to crash his system - after backing it up) to run some tests,
feel free to contact me.

Regards,

Uwe

Harold Hunt wrote:

> Uwe,
>
> Yes, the performance difference is known and expected.  Some of the
> difference is due to optimizations in Cygwin that cannot be used on
Windows
> 95/98/Me and some of the difference is due to the speed of the graphics
> libraries in Windows 95/98/Me vs. Windows NT/2000.  MI/X doesn't run into
> the graphics speed differences because they use GDI drawing functions
which
> can be significantly accelerated by the graphics card and driver, whereas
> Cygwin/XFree86 primarily uses large bit block transfers which appear to
just
> be slower on Windows 95/98/Me.
>
> We have been working on a version of Cygwin/XFree86 that uses GDI drawing
> functions directly, but the work is nowhere near complete or even usable.
> The development of that server can be followed at:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/xoncygwin
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Harold
>
>
>
>



From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 16 06:09:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 06:09:00 -0000
Subject: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing Xfree
In-Reply-To: <3CBC1EE1.2040203@visicon-online.de>
Message-ID: 

One thing I forgot to mention is that you may want to make sure that
DirectX, etc. are up to date by visiting http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
and installing whatever updates they have there (might require several
reboots).  Some of those updates may affect the performance of
Cygwin/XFree86, or they may not :)

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Uwe Schmidtmann [mailto:U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 8:54 AM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Subject: Re: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing
> Xfree
>
>
> Hello.
>
> Thanks for the extremely fast answer - it was about what I feared to
> hear. It would have been more pleasant to hear about a configuration
> trap I stumbled into - so it depends on how to define "it helps".
>
> My problem is, that I try to develop a "CCD" Camera for astronomical
> purposes (not really CCD for the moment as I want to try a CMOS imaging
> sensor). The control software is running under X11 (a very early version
> can be found on my homepage http://www.brunsteinobs.de.vu/, an update
> about the project will be done after a short introduction on a meeting
> in Mai), but the hardware programming environment uses Windows - so I
> was hoping to use cygwin and X11 to run my control application and nedit
>   to test changes in the hardware.
>
> Here at work I use the system to monitor and configure our server and
> gateway...
>
>
> Anyway: is there any cheap workaround with free or at least cheap server
> software apart from MiX? Xwin32 runs extremely well but is much to
> expensive for being used only once a week as a private person?
>
> Apart from that: All programmers supporting the cygwin project did a
> great job. The whole system is getting better and better...
>
> I do not much about X-Server internals or Windows internals - but if you
> need a guinnea pig (hope the spelling is right, I just mean someone to
> be willing to crash his system - after backing it up) to run some tests,
> feel free to contact me.
>
> Regards,
>
> Uwe
>
> Harold Hunt wrote:
>
> > Uwe,
> >
> > Yes, the performance difference is known and expected.  Some of the
> > difference is due to optimizations in Cygwin that cannot be
> used on Windows
> > 95/98/Me and some of the difference is due to the speed of the graphics
> > libraries in Windows 95/98/Me vs. Windows NT/2000.  MI/X
> doesn't run into
> > the graphics speed differences because they use GDI drawing
> functions which
> > can be significantly accelerated by the graphics card and
> driver, whereas
> > Cygwin/XFree86 primarily uses large bit block transfers which
> appear to just
> > be slower on Windows 95/98/Me.
> >
> > We have been working on a version of Cygwin/XFree86 that uses
> GDI drawing
> > functions directly, but the work is nowhere near complete or
> even usable.
> > The development of that server can be followed at:
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/xoncygwin
> >
> > Hope that helps,
> >
> > Harold
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>


From k.vriezen@vgelder.com  Tue Apr 16 07:51:00 2002
From: k.vriezen@vgelder.com (Koos Vriezen)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 07:51:00 -0000
Subject: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing Xfree
Message-ID: 

On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Uwe Schmidtmann wrote:
> But with the same configuration of Cygwin and X11 (this one was updated 
> 5 days ago) on my 800 MHz Athlon at home (freshly intalled 6 days ago, 
> ATI Graphics) X11 is almost unsable (e.g. I can type almost faster than 
> nedit can diplays it).
> 
> The main difference is that the slow system has Win98SE installed. Oh 
> yes - there is also a difference in RAM: this machine has 512 MB, the 
> slower one at home "only" has 256 MB which I would assume should suffice...

I don't see this speed difference. I type this on a P466 Celeron Win98SE 
with a remote KDE session via xdm on a RH7.1 (and I can type very fast). 
We have different Windows NT,98,2000 and on all XFree performs quite well. 
Did found some speed impacts caused by Norton AV on W2k and ZoneAlert on 
W98. Seems that processes watching network traffic slows down Windows 
dramatically.

Regards,

Koos Vriezen



From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Tue Apr 16 08:16:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 08:16:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
In-Reply-To: <3CBBCEA9.4D208157@imec.be>
References: <10204151555.AA17839@pluto.rain.com> <3CBBCEA9.4D208157@imec.be>
Message-ID: 

My first impression was that you clicked on xwin.exe, have you tried
the batch-file, or shell-script, startxwin.bat/-sh?

        /Andy

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Tue Apr 16 08:21:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 08:21:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing Xfree
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

A hint, give vnc a try when connecting from your home-pc, can do quite
good transfer :-)

What link is used BTW when working from home? (could it be something
like MI/X running 8bit, while cygwin runs 16bit or more)

        /Andy

| 
| -----Original Message-----
| From: Uwe Schmidtmann [mailto:U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de]
| Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 8:54 AM
| To: Harold Hunt
| Subject: Re: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing
| Xfree
| 
| 
| Hello.
| 
| Thanks for the extremely fast answer - it was about what I feared to
| hear. It would have been more pleasant to hear about a configuration
| trap I stumbled into - so it depends on how to define "it helps".

[...]

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From mbradford@bahaigear.com  Tue Apr 16 10:26:00 2002
From: mbradford@bahaigear.com (Matthew Bradford)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 10:26:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <200204161322.42136.mbradford@bahaigear.com>

Harold,
	Well, I feel like an idiot, but hey... it happens to all of us I guess, 
right?  right?  please? :-)  Like an idiot I didn't check to see if all of 
the failed attempts to start the X server to connect to the XDMCP server 
actually terminated themselves.  Looked at the process list and sure enough I 
found 2 rouge servers running.  You may be wondering just how that can 
happen... well, here is how:

$XWin.exe -fullscreen &
$xhost +

The window will go away making me believe the server had crashed.  I thought 
it was just a minor bug in the fullscreen portion of the X server.  In 
reality it stays running in the background.  And what is more interesting is 
that the X server will not complain that it cannot get the port.  Is THIS is 
bug too?  Or is it how it is supposed to work for some reason?

	- Matt


On Monday 15 April 2002 07:27 am, Harold Hunt wrote:
> Matt,
>
> It's good to know that something is listening on port 6000; however, I
> don't think that it is Windows XP's  Remote Assistance feature.  The only
> port number I can find mentioned with documents on that feature is 3389.
> Besides, if Microsoft did something so stupid as to set the default port
> number the same as the well-known X Window System port number then we would
> have surely heard about it by now.  Not to mention the fact that all of our
> Windows XP users would be having the same problem that you are having.
>
> I'd be interested to know what program on your computer is actually taking
> port 6000, for future reference.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:18 AM
> > To: Harold Hunt
> > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> >
> >
> > Harold,
> > 	Sorry for not responding to the commercial X server
> > question.  The answer to
> > that one is no as well.  I was going to try and get exceed, but
> > then saw this
> > and I couldn't pass up free.  (Also, I like the codebase in XFree
> > much better
> > than any commercial X server I've seen for win32)  I knew that :1
> > changed the
> > screen to 1 rather than 0, and after performing the netstat -a..
> > sure enough
> > there is something listening on port 6000.
> >
> > 	My best guess is that annoying pc-anywhere thing built into
> > XP.  I don't know
> > though.  I feel much better now that everything works though. :-)
> >
> > Thank you very much for your help.
> > 	- Matt
> >
> > On Monday 15 April 2002 12:18 am, Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > Matt,
> > >
> > > Perhaps some process already owns port 6000 on your Windows
> >
> > machine before
> >
> > > you launch XWin.  Adding :1 changes the screen number to 1
> >
> > (from 0) which
> >
> > > changes the port number to, I believe, 6001.
> > >
> > > You can find out what ports are open by running 'netstat -a' in
> >
> > a 'cmd' box
> >
> > > on Windows XP (if that has the command prompt).
> > >
> > > One thing that could cause port 6000 to be taken would be if you have a
> > > commercial X Server installed.  On April 12 I asked if you had any
> > > commercial X Servers installed:
> > > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00273.html
> > >
> > > You never answered.  So, do you have any commercial X Servers
> > > installed?
> > >
> > > It makes perfect sense that port 6000 is already owned, since
> >
> > you can run
> >
> > > remote clients via ssh forwarding (which doesn't use port 6000), but
> > > you can't run remote clients via telnet (which does use port 6000).
> > >
> > > Let me know what you find,
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:04 PM
> > > > To: Ian Burrell
> > > > Cc: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have finally solved the problem.  However, this raises another
> > > > question...
> > > >
> > > > The solution by the way was to add :1 to the Xwin.exe.  Don't
> >
> > know why it
> >
> > > > worked, but it worked like a charm.  So then the question
> >
> > is... why? :-P
> >
> > > > 	- Matt
> > > >
> > > > On Friday 12 April 2002 10:07 pm, Ian Burrell wrote:
> > > > > Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > > > > > First, thank you very much for your time and attention.
> >
> > Now onto the
> >
> > > > > > results of your last email:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've tried that before, but I tried it again just to be
> > > >
> > > > sure... and still
> > > >
> > > > > > no go.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > did you get my previous email talking about the connection
> > > >
> > > > refused issue?
> > > >
> > > > > >  I think this is related.  The only way I can get any remote
> > > >
> > > > X app to run
> > > >
> > > > > > is when I tunnel it through SSH.  Setting the export
> >
> > variable doesn't
> >
> > > > > > work. (even when i run xhost + and/or pass the -ac option to the
> > > > > > X server)  It is acting as if access control is on still.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any ideas on how to fix that?  I'll put ya money on it that
> > > >
> > > > is the issue.
> > > >
> > > > > >  I just have no idea how to fix it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, check if you have any .Xauthority files. Try moving
> >
> > the existing
> >
> > > > > ones are regenerating them. If you are running an X server, "xauth
> > > > > generate " connects to the server and generates new
> >
> > cookies. You
> >
> > > > > can copy the resulting .Xauthority file to Red Hat 7.2 machine.
> > > > >
> > > > > One thing to try is turn on debugging in the XDMCP server.
> >
> > I don't know
> >
> > > > > how this is done with kdm. xdm has a -debug flag.
> > > > >
> > > > >   - Ian


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Tue Apr 16 10:35:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 10:35:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing Xfree
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
Message-ID: 

/ Andrew Markebo  wrote:
| A hint, give vnc a try when connecting from your home-pc, can do quite
| good transfer :-)
| 
| What link is used BTW when working from home? (could it be something

And link I mean media, connection, whatever, how do you connect
between the computers.. 

        /Andy

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 16 10:58:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 10:58:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: <200204161322.42136.mbradford@bahaigear.com>
Message-ID: 

Matt,

Are you telling me that you had several failed Cygwin/XFree86 launch
attempts and you happened to never reboot (or at least to start out with a
command line that would fail after rebooting) thus you were never able to
connect to your remote machine via XDMCP?  Man, that is some bad luck.

So, tell me now if you can connect to your remote machine via XDMCP on
display 0.  Is everything normal for you now?

The point you raise about no error being reported is interesting.  The
portion of the X Server that opens port 6000 is operating system independent
(we didn't write it in other words) so I haven't checked if it tries to
verify that port 6000 can be owned on startup.  I'll look into it, as it
does make sense to abort the session and warn the user, rather than to
silently fail in the background.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 1:23 PM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
>
>
> Harold,
> 	Well, I feel like an idiot, but hey... it happens to all of
> us I guess,
> right?  right?  please? :-)  Like an idiot I didn't check to see
> if all of
> the failed attempts to start the X server to connect to the XDMCP server
> actually terminated themselves.  Looked at the process list and
> sure enough I
> found 2 rouge servers running.  You may be wondering just how that can
> happen... well, here is how:
>
> $XWin.exe -fullscreen &
> $xhost +
>
> The window will go away making me believe the server had crashed.
>  I thought
> it was just a minor bug in the fullscreen portion of the X server.  In
> reality it stays running in the background.  And what is more
> interesting is
> that the X server will not complain that it cannot get the port.
> Is THIS is
> bug too?  Or is it how it is supposed to work for some reason?
>
> 	- Matt
>
>
> On Monday 15 April 2002 07:27 am, Harold Hunt wrote:
> > Matt,
> >
> > It's good to know that something is listening on port 6000; however, I
> > don't think that it is Windows XP's  Remote Assistance feature.
>  The only
> > port number I can find mentioned with documents on that feature is 3389.
> > Besides, if Microsoft did something so stupid as to set the default port
> > number the same as the well-known X Window System port number
> then we would
> > have surely heard about it by now.  Not to mention the fact
> that all of our
> > Windows XP users would be having the same problem that you are having.
> >
> > I'd be interested to know what program on your computer is
> actually taking
> > port 6000, for future reference.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:18 AM
> > > To: Harold Hunt
> > > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > >
> > >
> > > Harold,
> > > 	Sorry for not responding to the commercial X server
> > > question.  The answer to
> > > that one is no as well.  I was going to try and get exceed, but
> > > then saw this
> > > and I couldn't pass up free.  (Also, I like the codebase in XFree
> > > much better
> > > than any commercial X server I've seen for win32)  I knew that :1
> > > changed the
> > > screen to 1 rather than 0, and after performing the netstat -a..
> > > sure enough
> > > there is something listening on port 6000.
> > >
> > > 	My best guess is that annoying pc-anywhere thing built into
> > > XP.  I don't know
> > > though.  I feel much better now that everything works though. :-)
> > >
> > > Thank you very much for your help.
> > > 	- Matt
> > >
> > > On Monday 15 April 2002 12:18 am, Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > > Matt,
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps some process already owns port 6000 on your Windows
> > >
> > > machine before
> > >
> > > > you launch XWin.  Adding :1 changes the screen number to 1
> > >
> > > (from 0) which
> > >
> > > > changes the port number to, I believe, 6001.
> > > >
> > > > You can find out what ports are open by running 'netstat -a' in
> > >
> > > a 'cmd' box
> > >
> > > > on Windows XP (if that has the command prompt).
> > > >
> > > > One thing that could cause port 6000 to be taken would be
> if you have a
> > > > commercial X Server installed.  On April 12 I asked if you had any
> > > > commercial X Servers installed:
> > > > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00273.html
> > > >
> > > > You never answered.  So, do you have any commercial X Servers
> > > > installed?
> > > >
> > > > It makes perfect sense that port 6000 is already owned, since
> > >
> > > you can run
> > >
> > > > remote clients via ssh forwarding (which doesn't use port 6000), but
> > > > you can't run remote clients via telnet (which does use port 6000).
> > > >
> > > > Let me know what you find,
> > > >
> > > > Harold
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of
> Matthew Bradford
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:04 PM
> > > > > To: Ian Burrell
> > > > > Cc: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have finally solved the problem.  However, this raises another
> > > > > question...
> > > > >
> > > > > The solution by the way was to add :1 to the Xwin.exe.  Don't
> > >
> > > know why it
> > >
> > > > > worked, but it worked like a charm.  So then the question
> > >
> > > is... why? :-P
> > >
> > > > > 	- Matt
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday 12 April 2002 10:07 pm, Ian Burrell wrote:
> > > > > > Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > > > > > > First, thank you very much for your time and attention.
> > >
> > > Now onto the
> > >
> > > > > > > results of your last email:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've tried that before, but I tried it again just to be
> > > > >
> > > > > sure... and still
> > > > >
> > > > > > > no go.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > did you get my previous email talking about the connection
> > > > >
> > > > > refused issue?
> > > > >
> > > > > > >  I think this is related.  The only way I can get any remote
> > > > >
> > > > > X app to run
> > > > >
> > > > > > > is when I tunnel it through SSH.  Setting the export
> > >
> > > variable doesn't
> > >
> > > > > > > work. (even when i run xhost + and/or pass the -ac
> option to the
> > > > > > > X server)  It is acting as if access control is on still.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any ideas on how to fix that?  I'll put ya money on it that
> > > > >
> > > > > is the issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > > >  I just have no idea how to fix it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, check if you have any .Xauthority files. Try moving
> > >
> > > the existing
> > >
> > > > > > ones are regenerating them. If you are running an X
> server, "xauth
> > > > > > generate " connects to the server and generates new
> > >
> > > cookies. You
> > >
> > > > > > can copy the resulting .Xauthority file to Red Hat 7.2 machine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One thing to try is turn on debugging in the XDMCP server.
> > >
> > > I don't know
> > >
> > > > > > how this is done with kdm. xdm has a -debug flag.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   - Ian
>


From mbradford@bahaigear.com  Tue Apr 16 11:11:00 2002
From: mbradford@bahaigear.com (Matthew Bradford)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 11:11:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <200204161407.30364.mbradford@bahaigear.com>

Harold,

That is exactly what I'm telling you.  lol.  I would see the x server shut 
down and I assumed all the resources it had got freed.  Guess not. :-)  But 
yeah, since noticing that and killing the appropriate processes I have been 
able to connect on :0 just fine.  

About the error reporting.  I find it very odd that nothing is generated as 
well, because the Linux version will complain and kill itself if there is 
another app that has port 6000.  You sure nobody modified that code?  Or 
perhaps the networking wrappers (i assume you'd be using something like that) 
need to be looked at more closely.  Oh well, I am willing to offer any help I 
can... and yes, I will reboot when needed from now on! :-P

	- Matt


On Tuesday 16 April 2002 01:58 pm, Harold Hunt wrote:
> Matt,
>
> Are you telling me that you had several failed Cygwin/XFree86 launch
> attempts and you happened to never reboot (or at least to start out with a
> command line that would fail after rebooting) thus you were never able to
> connect to your remote machine via XDMCP?  Man, that is some bad luck.
>
> So, tell me now if you can connect to your remote machine via XDMCP on
> display 0.  Is everything normal for you now?
>
> The point you raise about no error being reported is interesting.  The
> portion of the X Server that opens port 6000 is operating system
> independent (we didn't write it in other words) so I haven't checked if it
> tries to verify that port 6000 can be owned on startup.  I'll look into it,
> as it does make sense to abort the session and warn the user, rather than
> to silently fail in the background.
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 1:23 PM
> > To: Harold Hunt
> > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> >
> >
> > Harold,
> > 	Well, I feel like an idiot, but hey... it happens to all of
> > us I guess,
> > right?  right?  please? :-)  Like an idiot I didn't check to see
> > if all of
> > the failed attempts to start the X server to connect to the XDMCP server
> > actually terminated themselves.  Looked at the process list and
> > sure enough I
> > found 2 rouge servers running.  You may be wondering just how that can
> > happen... well, here is how:
> >
> > $XWin.exe -fullscreen &
> > $xhost +
> >
> > The window will go away making me believe the server had crashed.
> >  I thought
> > it was just a minor bug in the fullscreen portion of the X server.  In
> > reality it stays running in the background.  And what is more
> > interesting is
> > that the X server will not complain that it cannot get the port.
> > Is THIS is
> > bug too?  Or is it how it is supposed to work for some reason?
> >
> > 	- Matt
> >
> > On Monday 15 April 2002 07:27 am, Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > Matt,
> > >
> > > It's good to know that something is listening on port 6000; however, I
> > > don't think that it is Windows XP's  Remote Assistance feature.
> >
> >  The only
> >
> > > port number I can find mentioned with documents on that feature is
> > > 3389. Besides, if Microsoft did something so stupid as to set the
> > > default port number the same as the well-known X Window System port
> > > number
> >
> > then we would
> >
> > > have surely heard about it by now.  Not to mention the fact
> >
> > that all of our
> >
> > > Windows XP users would be having the same problem that you are having.
> > >
> > > I'd be interested to know what program on your computer is
> >
> > actually taking
> >
> > > port 6000, for future reference.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Bradford
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:18 AM
> > > > To: Harold Hunt
> > > > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Harold,
> > > > 	Sorry for not responding to the commercial X server
> > > > question.  The answer to
> > > > that one is no as well.  I was going to try and get exceed, but
> > > > then saw this
> > > > and I couldn't pass up free.  (Also, I like the codebase in XFree
> > > > much better
> > > > than any commercial X server I've seen for win32)  I knew that :1
> > > > changed the
> > > > screen to 1 rather than 0, and after performing the netstat -a..
> > > > sure enough
> > > > there is something listening on port 6000.
> > > >
> > > > 	My best guess is that annoying pc-anywhere thing built into
> > > > XP.  I don't know
> > > > though.  I feel much better now that everything works though. :-)
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much for your help.
> > > > 	- Matt
> > > >
> > > > On Monday 15 April 2002 12:18 am, Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > > > Matt,
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps some process already owns port 6000 on your Windows
> > > >
> > > > machine before
> > > >
> > > > > you launch XWin.  Adding :1 changes the screen number to 1
> > > >
> > > > (from 0) which
> > > >
> > > > > changes the port number to, I believe, 6001.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can find out what ports are open by running 'netstat -a' in
> > > >
> > > > a 'cmd' box
> > > >
> > > > > on Windows XP (if that has the command prompt).
> > > > >
> > > > > One thing that could cause port 6000 to be taken would be
> >
> > if you have a
> >
> > > > > commercial X Server installed.  On April 12 I asked if you had any
> > > > > commercial X Servers installed:
> > > > > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-04/msg00273.html
> > > > >
> > > > > You never answered.  So, do you have any commercial X Servers
> > > > > installed?
> > > > >
> > > > > It makes perfect sense that port 6000 is already owned, since
> > > >
> > > > you can run
> > > >
> > > > > remote clients via ssh forwarding (which doesn't use port 6000),
> > > > > but you can't run remote clients via telnet (which does use port
> > > > > 6000).
> > > > >
> > > > > Let me know what you find,
> > > > >
> > > > > Harold
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of
> >
> > Matthew Bradford
> >
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:04 PM
> > > > > > To: Ian Burrell
> > > > > > Cc: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: XDMCP and Redhat 7.2
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have finally solved the problem.  However, this raises another
> > > > > > question...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The solution by the way was to add :1 to the Xwin.exe.  Don't
> > > >
> > > > know why it
> > > >
> > > > > > worked, but it worked like a charm.  So then the question
> > > >
> > > > is... why? :-P
> > > >
> > > > > > 	- Matt
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Friday 12 April 2002 10:07 pm, Ian Burrell wrote:
> > > > > > > Matthew Bradford wrote:
> > > > > > > > First, thank you very much for your time and attention.
> > > >
> > > > Now onto the
> > > >
> > > > > > > > results of your last email:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've tried that before, but I tried it again just to be
> > > > > >
> > > > > > sure... and still
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > no go.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > did you get my previous email talking about the connection
> > > > > >
> > > > > > refused issue?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  I think this is related.  The only way I can get any remote
> > > > > >
> > > > > > X app to run
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > is when I tunnel it through SSH.  Setting the export
> > > >
> > > > variable doesn't
> > > >
> > > > > > > > work. (even when i run xhost + and/or pass the -ac
> >
> > option to the
> >
> > > > > > > > X server)  It is acting as if access control is on still.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any ideas on how to fix that?  I'll put ya money on it that
> > > > > >
> > > > > > is the issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  I just have no idea how to fix it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, check if you have any .Xauthority files. Try moving
> > > >
> > > > the existing
> > > >
> > > > > > > ones are regenerating them. If you are running an X
> >
> > server, "xauth
> >
> > > > > > > generate " connects to the server and generates new
> > > >
> > > > cookies. You
> > > >
> > > > > > > can copy the resulting .Xauthority file to Red Hat 7.2 machine.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One thing to try is turn on debugging in the XDMCP server.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know
> > > >
> > > > > > > how this is done with kdm. xdm has a -debug flag.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   - Ian


From sb@dod.no  Tue Apr 16 12:30:00 2002
From: sb@dod.no (Steinar Bang)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 12:30:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
References:  <3CB4B09C.1070606@znark.com>
Message-ID: <87bscjjvhj.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no>

>>>>> Ian Burrell :

> Harold Hunt wrote:

>> Also, I request that you keep the XFree86-xserv package, as that
>> will allow us to realize the immediate benefit of being able to
>> release the Test-** server or updates to the stable server as small
>> downloads that everyone can keep up to date with.

> Good idea. I'm going to call it xfree86-xwin though. I think I'll
> put the startup-scripts.tgz in this package.

An extra bonus with this package would be to create minimized installs
that just talk XDMCP to some display manager, and has no X
applications or fonts by its own.

That's how I used CygWin/XFree86 anyway.



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From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr 16 19:20:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 19:20:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <3CB49F1C.7000604@znark.com>
References: <3CB3C24E.9060803@znark.com> <20020410053447.GA15157@redhat.com> <3CB49F1C.7000604@znark.com>
Message-ID: <20020417022045.GA3967@redhat.com>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:22:52PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>
>>Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
>>
>
>Check out http://www.znark.com/cygwin/. It doesn't include the archive 
>files; my web account doesn't have the bandwidth or quota for them. To 
>generate the packages, download the *.tgz files from 
>cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0

If someone wants to repackage these files into .bz2 format, I'll upload
them to a temporary area on sourceware.

cgf


From roland@steeltorch.com  Tue Apr 16 20:23:00 2002
From: roland@steeltorch.com (Roland Glenn McIntosh)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:23:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <20020417022045.GA3967@redhat.com>
References: <3CB49F1C.7000604@znark.com>
 <3CB3C24E.9060803@znark.com>
 <20020410053447.GA15157@redhat.com>
 <3CB49F1C.7000604@znark.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020416232018.05d606c8@lnxmain>

cgf - 
If I understood you correctly you wanted the Xfree gzipped archives turned into bzipped archives.  I have done this using the 4.2.0 cygwin binaries provided at xfree86.org.  I stuck with the .tar.bz2 convention most cygwin packages seem to use.  Please note that the Xfnts package seems to have .gz files in it (I'm assuming that's gzipped fonts) and didn't compress well.

For the rest of the week they can be accessed at:
        ftp://rgm.nu/pub/cygwin-xfree/

File list follows.
-rgm

04/17/2002 03:01AM      8,857,283 Xbin.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:01AM      1,259,910 Xdoc.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:08AM        480,598 Xetc.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:10AM     12,191,610 Xf100.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:10AM        371,828 Xfcyr.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:10AM        344,796 Xfenc.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:12AM     16,276,234 Xfnts.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:13AM      1,958,413 Xfscl.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:13AM        206,528 Xfsrv.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:13AM        891,043 Xhtml.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:13AM         85,524 Xjdoc.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:13AM         83,977 Xlib.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:13AM        559,304 Xman.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:13AM      1,122,895 Xnest.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:13AM        607,955 Xprog.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:13AM        809,720 Xprt.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:14AM      4,429,150 Xps.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:14AM      1,246,500 Xvfb.tar.bz2
04/17/2002 03:14AM      1,243,049 Xxserv.tar.bz2



At 10:20 PM 04.16.2002 -0400, you wrote:
>On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:22:52PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
>>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>>
>>>Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
>>>
>>
>>Check out http://www.znark.com/cygwin/. It doesn't include the archive 
>>files; my web account doesn't have the bandwidth or quota for them. To 
>>generate the packages, download the *.tgz files from 
>>cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0
>
>If someone wants to repackage these files into .bz2 format, I'll upload
>them to a temporary area on sourceware.
>
>cgf 




From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 16 20:27:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:27:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020416232018.05d606c8@lnxmain>
Message-ID: 

Hang on just a minute... I've been making some changes and will have them
finished shortly.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Roland Glenn McIntosh
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 11:24 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: xfree packages
>
>
> cgf -
> If I understood you correctly you wanted the Xfree gzipped
> archives turned into bzipped archives.  I have done this using
> the 4.2.0 cygwin binaries provided at xfree86.org.  I stuck with
> the .tar.bz2 convention most cygwin packages seem to use.  Please
> note that the Xfnts package seems to have .gz files in it (I'm
> assuming that's gzipped fonts) and didn't compress well.
>
> For the rest of the week they can be accessed at:
>         ftp://rgm.nu/pub/cygwin-xfree/
>
> File list follows.
> -rgm
>
> 04/17/2002 03:01AM      8,857,283 Xbin.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:01AM      1,259,910 Xdoc.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:08AM        480,598 Xetc.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:10AM     12,191,610 Xf100.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:10AM        371,828 Xfcyr.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:10AM        344,796 Xfenc.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:12AM     16,276,234 Xfnts.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM      1,958,413 Xfscl.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM        206,528 Xfsrv.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM        891,043 Xhtml.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM         85,524 Xjdoc.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM         83,977 Xlib.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM        559,304 Xman.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM      1,122,895 Xnest.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM        607,955 Xprog.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM        809,720 Xprt.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:14AM      4,429,150 Xps.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:14AM      1,246,500 Xvfb.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:14AM      1,243,049 Xxserv.tar.bz2
>
>
>
> At 10:20 PM 04.16.2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:22:52PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
> >>Christopher Faylor wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Check out http://www.znark.com/cygwin/. It doesn't include the archive
> >>files; my web account doesn't have the bandwidth or quota for them. To
> >>generate the packages, download the *.tgz files from
> >>cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0
> >
> >If someone wants to repackage these files into .bz2 format, I'll upload
> >them to a temporary area on sourceware.
> >
> >cgf
>
>
>


From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr 16 20:33:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:33:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020416232018.05d606c8@lnxmain>
References: <3CB49F1C.7000604@znark.com> <3CB3C24E.9060803@znark.com> <20020410053447.GA15157@redhat.com> <3CB49F1C.7000604@znark.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20020416232018.05d606c8@lnxmain>
Message-ID: <20020417033306.GA5165@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 11:23:37PM -0400, Roland Glenn McIntosh wrote:
>If I understood you correctly you wanted the Xfree gzipped archives
>turned into bzipped archives.  I have done this using the 4.2.0 cygwin
>binaries provided at xfree86.org.  I stuck with the .tar.bz2 convention
>most cygwin packages seem to use.  Please note that the Xfnts package
>seems to have .gz files in it (I'm assuming that's gzipped fonts) and
>didn't compress well.

I don't know if it is that simple.  The files should still conform to
the conventions at the oft mentioned: http://cygwin.com/setup.html .
I haven't verified that is the case for the standard .tgz files, though.

I know that Harold is working on this, but I just thought I'd answer
this question.

Regardless, thank you! for taking the initiative.  That was a quick
response.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 16 20:37:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:37:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020416232018.05d606c8@lnxmain>
Message-ID: 

Roland,

Ooos... upon actually looking at the list of files I realized that you
converted the standard XFree86 tar-gzip files into tar-bz2 files, which
isn't really what we are trying to do here.  Chris was asking that the
XFree86 Cygwin-Setup package files be turned into tar-bz2 files; these
packages can be used with Cygwin's Setup to install Cygwin/XFree86 and they
are altogether different than the standard XFree86 tar-gzip files.

Hope that clears things up,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Roland Glenn McIntosh
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 11:24 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: xfree packages
>
>
> cgf -
> If I understood you correctly you wanted the Xfree gzipped
> archives turned into bzipped archives.  I have done this using
> the 4.2.0 cygwin binaries provided at xfree86.org.  I stuck with
> the .tar.bz2 convention most cygwin packages seem to use.  Please
> note that the Xfnts package seems to have .gz files in it (I'm
> assuming that's gzipped fonts) and didn't compress well.
>
> For the rest of the week they can be accessed at:
>         ftp://rgm.nu/pub/cygwin-xfree/
>
> File list follows.
> -rgm
>
> 04/17/2002 03:01AM      8,857,283 Xbin.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:01AM      1,259,910 Xdoc.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:08AM        480,598 Xetc.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:10AM     12,191,610 Xf100.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:10AM        371,828 Xfcyr.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:10AM        344,796 Xfenc.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:12AM     16,276,234 Xfnts.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM      1,958,413 Xfscl.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM        206,528 Xfsrv.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM        891,043 Xhtml.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM         85,524 Xjdoc.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM         83,977 Xlib.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM        559,304 Xman.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM      1,122,895 Xnest.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM        607,955 Xprog.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:13AM        809,720 Xprt.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:14AM      4,429,150 Xps.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:14AM      1,246,500 Xvfb.tar.bz2
> 04/17/2002 03:14AM      1,243,049 Xxserv.tar.bz2
>
>
>
> At 10:20 PM 04.16.2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:22:52PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
> >>Christopher Faylor wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Check out http://www.znark.com/cygwin/. It doesn't include the archive
> >>files; my web account doesn't have the bandwidth or quota for them. To
> >>generate the packages, download the *.tgz files from
> >>cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0
> >
> >If someone wants to repackage these files into .bz2 format, I'll upload
> >them to a temporary area on sourceware.
> >
> >cgf
>
>
>


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Tue Apr 16 20:40:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:40:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
References: <3CB3C24E.9060803@znark.com> <20020410053447.GA15157@redhat.com> <3CB49F1C.7000604@znark.com> <20020417022045.GA3967@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3CBCEEB4.5040006@ece.gatech.edu>

I can do this -- but what was the outcome of the package name argument? 
  Was it "xfree-foo-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2" or "xfree86-..." or "XFree86-..."?

I'll need to modify the znark script accordingly.

--Chuck


Christopher Faylor wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:22:52PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
> 
>>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
>>>
>>>
>>Check out http://www.znark.com/cygwin/. It doesn't include the archive 
>>files; my web account doesn't have the bandwidth or quota for them. To 
>>generate the packages, download the *.tgz files from 
>>cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0
>>
> 
> If someone wants to repackage these files into .bz2 format, I'll upload
> them to a temporary area on sourceware.
> 
> cgf
> 



From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 16 20:43:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:43:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <3CBCEEB4.5040006@ece.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: 

Charles,

Don't bother... I'm already on it.  The scripts are modified and I'm just
working on packaging it up.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Charles Wilson
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 11:41 PM
> To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: xfree packages
>
>
> I can do this -- but what was the outcome of the package name argument?
>   Was it "xfree-foo-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2" or "xfree86-..." or "XFree86-..."?
>
> I'll need to modify the znark script accordingly.
>
> --Chuck
>
>
> Christopher Faylor wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:22:52PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
> >
> >>Christopher Faylor wrote:
> >>
> >>>Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Check out http://www.znark.com/cygwin/. It doesn't include the archive
> >>files; my web account doesn't have the bandwidth or quota for them. To
> >>generate the packages, download the *.tgz files from
> >>cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0
> >>
> >
> > If someone wants to repackage these files into .bz2 format, I'll upload
> > them to a temporary area on sourceware.
> >
> > cgf
> >
>
>


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Tue Apr 16 20:46:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:46:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
References: 
Message-ID: <3CBCEFFA.90006@ece.gatech.edu>

Oh okay -- then I can go home (nothin to see here; nope, NOT using the 
superfast net connection at work for non-work related stuff...nope, not 
me...)

--Chuck


Harold Hunt wrote:

> Charles,
> 
> Don't bother... I'm already on it.  The scripts are modified and I'm just
> working on packaging it up.
> 
> Harold
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
>>[mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Charles Wilson
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 11:41 PM
>>To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
>>Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>>Subject: Re: xfree packages
>>
>>
>>I can do this -- but what was the outcome of the package name argument?
>>  Was it "xfree-foo-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2" or "xfree86-..." or "XFree86-..."?
>>
>>I'll need to modify the znark script accordingly.
>>
>>--Chuck
>>
>>
>>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:22:52PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Check out http://www.znark.com/cygwin/. It doesn't include the archive
>>>>files; my web account doesn't have the bandwidth or quota for them. To
>>>>generate the packages, download the *.tgz files from
>>>>cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>If someone wants to repackage these files into .bz2 format, I'll upload
>>>them to a temporary area on sourceware.
>>>
>>>cgf
>>>
>>>
>>
> 



From iburrell@znark.com  Tue Apr 16 20:47:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:47:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
References: 
Message-ID: <3CBCF025.6060700@znark.com>

Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> Ooos... upon actually looking at the list of files I realized that you
> converted the standard XFree86 tar-gzip files into tar-bz2 files, which
> isn't really what we are trying to do here.  Chris was asking that the
> XFree86 Cygwin-Setup package files be turned into tar-bz2 files; these
> packages can be used with Cygwin's Setup to install Cygwin/XFree86 and they
> are altogether different than the standard XFree86 tar-gzip files.
> 

I have uploaded the .tar.bz2 packages to http://www.znark.com/cygwin/. 
The site is limited in bandwidth so it would be best if someone copied 
them somewhere permanent.

If anyone wants to build their own copies, they can use the build.sh 
scripts in that directory. It basically unpacks the .tgz files, 
repackages them in .tar.bz2 files, and shuffles around some of the files.

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From Narasimhak@mascotsystems.com  Tue Apr 16 20:48:00 2002
From: Narasimhak@mascotsystems.com (Narasimha Reddy K)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:48:00 -0000
Subject: Problem on using system libs
Message-ID: <5575473D4532D411BE4C009027E8C838068E6718@MASBLREXC02>

it is throwing following error on building XFREE86 source.
LIBCMTD.lib(dosmap.obj) : error LNK2005: __errno already defined in
MSVCRT.LIB(MSVCRT.dll)


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From roland@steeltorch.com  Tue Apr 16 20:52:00 2002
From: roland@steeltorch.com (Roland Glenn McIntosh)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:52:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020416235240.05d6a558@lnxmain>

thanks guys :)
I figured it seemed a little simplistic of a thing to ask.  no worries.
Sorry 'bout that.

G'luck Harold.  I'm going to free some disk space on my server now.

-rgm 



From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 16 21:19:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 21:19:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

I need a sample command line for upset.  I have searched and searched and I
haven't found a single example of how to tell it which setup.hint files to
look at and which setup.ini file to generate.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Harold Hunt
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 11:43 PM
> To: Charles Wilson; cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: xfree packages
>
>
> Charles,
>
> Don't bother... I'm already on it.  The scripts are modified and I'm just
> working on packaging it up.
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Charles Wilson
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 11:41 PM
> > To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: xfree packages
> >
> >
> > I can do this -- but what was the outcome of the package name argument?
> >   Was it "xfree-foo-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2" or "xfree86-..." or "XFree86-..."?
> >
> > I'll need to modify the znark script accordingly.
> >
> > --Chuck
> >
> >
> > Christopher Faylor wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:22:52PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
> > >
> > >>Christopher Faylor wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Yes, please post the setup.hint files that you used.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>Check out http://www.znark.com/cygwin/. It doesn't include the archive
> > >>files; my web account doesn't have the bandwidth or quota for them. To
> > >>generate the packages, download the *.tgz files from
> > >>cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0
> > >>
> > >
> > > If someone wants to repackage these files into .bz2 format,
> I'll upload
> > > them to a temporary area on sourceware.
> > >
> > > cgf
> > >
> >
> >
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 16 22:49:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 22:49:00 -0000
Subject: xfree packages
In-Reply-To: <3CBCF025.6060700@znark.com>
Message-ID: 

Ian,

Okay, I've gotten the Cygwin/XFree86 packages to install via Cygwin's
setup.exe, but there is a slight problem: the usr/X11R6/bin, etc.
directories are created relative to the location of setup.exe, not in the
root of the Cygwin installation.  Any ideas as to what is causing this?

Harold


From U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de  Tue Apr 16 23:30:00 2002
From: U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de (Uwe Schmidtmann)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 23:30:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing Xfree
References: 	 
Message-ID: <3CBD17EC.7020809@visicon-online.de>


Hello.

Thanks for all the good hints. I am trying to comment them all at once:

First of all: The comparison was running Xfree, icewm, nedit and an own 
application completely under cygwin on the same machine - not outgoing 
connections. That is exactly my problem: I want to avoid using two 
computers for my project.

Second: Good hint is network listening: my own application (you can find 
a very early stage on http://www.brunsteinobs.de.vu/ under the XCCD 
section) uses TCP/IP socket communication to cummunicate with a rabbit 
core module. While XCCD is running under LinuX (or cygwin), the rabbit 
programming environtment needs Windows.

Third: both systems were compared just ruuning Xfee, icewm and nedit 
under cygwin without extra IP stuff running. Opening the IP port does 
not even change anything.

Forth: My Win98 machine has DirectX 8.1 which seems to be the latest 
version available from M$.

So I guess it is the difference between NT optimization and Win9x.


Best regards,

Uwe


Andrew Markebo wrote:

> / Andrew Markebo  wrote:
> | A hint, give vnc a try when connecting from your home-pc, can do quite
> | good transfer :-)
> | 
> | What link is used BTW when working from home? (could it be something
> 
> And link I mean media, connection, whatever, how do you connect
> between the computers.. 
> 
>         /Andy
> 
> 



From iburrell@znark.com  Tue Apr 16 23:39:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 23:39:00 -0000
Subject: FW: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing Xfree
References: 	  <3CBD17EC.7020809@visicon-online.de>
Message-ID: <3CBD18AE.2010502@znark.com>

Uwe Schmidtmann wrote:
> 
> So I guess it is the difference between NT optimization and Win9x.
> 

It could also be a difference in multitasking. I wouldn't be surprised 
if Win98 was slower in multitasking between the X server and clients 
especially with the Cygwin library and socket communication.

You could test this by running an X client from another machine and 
comparing NT and Win98 performance.

  - Ian

-- 
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http://www.znark.com/


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Tue Apr 16 23:44:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 23:44:00 -0000
Subject: Problem on using system libs
In-Reply-To: <5575473D4532D411BE4C009027E8C838068E6718@MASBLREXC02>
References: <5575473D4532D411BE4C009027E8C838068E6718@MASBLREXC02>
Message-ID: 

/ Narasimha Reddy K  wrote:
| it is throwing following error on building XFREE86 source.
| LIBCMTD.lib(dosmap.obj) : error LNK2005: __errno already defined in
| MSVCRT.LIB(MSVCRT.dll)

Doesn't feel like you try to build it with cygwin?? Smells visual c++
(sorry for swearing ;-)

        /A

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From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Wed Apr 17 00:45:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 00:45:00 -0000
Subject: Problem on using system libs
In-Reply-To: <5575473D4532D411BE4C009027E8C838068E6718@MASBLREXC02>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Narasimha Reddy K wrote:

> it is throwing following error on building XFREE86 source.
> LIBCMTD.lib(dosmap.obj) : error LNK2005: __errno already defined in
> MSVCRT.LIB(MSVCRT.dll)

You're trying to build with VisualC++? Then this is the wrong mailing list.
There is a project for compiling Xfree with MSVC on sources.redhat.com
http://sources.redhat.com/win32-x11/

bye
	ago
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From edi@serbski-institut.de  Wed Apr 17 07:00:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 07:00:00 -0000
Subject: xkb configuration (slightly off-topic)
Message-ID: <20020417.153900.74743907.edi@serbski-institut.de>

Hello,

this is slightly off-topic but has anyone got a good configuration tool
for tweaking these xkb files? I'd like a Sorbian keyboard for cygwin/xfree86
similar to the one our windows people are using but I can't find any suitable
documentation how to tweak this xkb stuff.

Cheers

Edi


From wilper-8@ludd.luth.se  Wed Apr 17 07:04:00 2002
From: wilper-8@ludd.luth.se (Wilhelm Person)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 07:04:00 -0000
Subject: xkb configuration (slightly off-topic)
In-Reply-To: <20020417.153900.74743907.edi@serbski-institut.de>
Message-ID: 

xkeycaps?
/W

On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, PD Dr. Edward Wornar wrote:

> Hello,
>
> this is slightly off-topic but has anyone got a good configuration tool
> for tweaking these xkb files? I'd like a Sorbian keyboard for cygwin/xfree86
> similar to the one our windows people are using but I can't find any suitable
> documentation how to tweak this xkb stuff.
>
> Cheers
>
> Edi
>

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From edi@serbski-institut.de  Wed Apr 17 08:24:00 2002
From: edi@serbski-institut.de (PD Dr. Edward Wornar)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 08:24:00 -0000
Subject: xkb configuration (slightly off-topic)
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020417.153900.74743907.edi@serbski-institut.de>
	
Message-ID: <20020417.172250.74741538.edi@serbski-institut.de>

Thanks for the answer.

Already tried that, didn't work for me. I don't want to simply remap
individual keys, I need different dead-keys and stuff: For instance,
I want asciigravis to behave like dead_caron and produce scaron for
`s so that applications like kmail get the idea. I thought the xkb extensions
where for me but w.o. proper docs these files are pretty scary :-(

Furthermore, I need to to this on my *local* (=cygwin) box as some people sometimes
connect via VNC and xmodmap and VNC don't agree with each other.

Edi

> xkeycaps?
> /W
> 
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, PD Dr. Edward Wornar wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > this is slightly off-topic but has anyone got a good configuration tool
> > for tweaking these xkb files? I'd like a Sorbian keyboard for cygwin/xfree86
> > similar to the one our windows people are using but I can't find any suitable
> > documentation how to tweak this xkb stuff.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Edi
> >
> 
> +-------------------------------+
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> | E-mail: wilper@home.se        |
> | ICQ:    18390479              |
> +-------------------------------+
> 


From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Wed Apr 17 11:02:00 2002
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 11:02:00 -0000
Subject: Curious refresh rate behavior...
Message-ID: 

My Windows 2000 desktop is set at 1024x768x24 @ 75Hz.  However, when I 
specify the following, I get a screen @ 60Hz:

    XWin -fullscreen -depth 8

Adding "-refresh 75" doesn't help, I still get 60Hz.

If I do this, I get 75Hz, but not the 8-bit depth I want:

    XWin -fullscreen

If I do this, I get 75Hz and 8-bit depth, but have to give up the DirectDraw 
engine:

    XWin -engine 1 -fullscreen -depth 8

Curious.


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From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Wed Apr 17 11:27:00 2002
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 11:27:00 -0000
Subject: Curious refresh rate behavior...
Message-ID: 

>From: "Thomas Chadwick" 

[snip]

>If I do this, I get 75Hz and 8-bit depth, but have to give up the 
>DirectDraw
>engine:
>
>    XWin -engine 1 -fullscreen -depth 8

I take it back.  This command-line gives me 75Hz, but not 8-bit depth (I get 
24-bit).


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From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Wed Apr 17 12:45:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 12:45:00 -0000
Subject: Fonts not found
Message-ID: 

I just installed the Type 1 font package that comes with Cygwin,
Xfscl.tgz. The x-server still can't find the fonts. Is there some
configuration file I need to edit also to make Cygwin aware of the
fonts?

This is what I did:

cd /usr/X11R6
extract.exe zxf Xfscl.tgz

Thanks,
Lars.

--
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Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
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From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Wed Apr 17 14:39:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 14:39:00 -0000
Subject: Fonts not found
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

/ Lars Jensen  wrote:
| I just installed the Type 1 font package that comes with Cygwin,
| Xfscl.tgz. The x-server still can't find the fonts. Is there some
| configuration file I need to edit also to make Cygwin aware of the
| fonts?
| 
| This is what I did:
| 
| cd /usr/X11R6
| extract.exe zxf Xfscl.tgz

You probably need to run mkfontdir lib/X11/fonts/[whatever the
fontdirs name was..]

And doublecheck so it is in the fontpath when X fires up, check the
log in /tmp

        /Andy

-- 
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 17 15:45:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 15:45:00 -0000
Subject: Curious refresh rate behavior...
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Thomas,

Well, answer me this one question:

What refresh rates does Windows 2000 allow when you set the Windows color
depth to 8 bits?

If the answer is that Windows only allows a 60 Hz refresh rate then you have
found that your driver only supports a 60 Hz refresh rate when in 8 bit
mode.  If Windows allows higher refresh rates in 8 bit mode then you have
found that DirectDraw )or the DirectDraw drivers for your video card) does
not allow a refresh rate higher than 60 Hz.  I would believe either of these
scenarios, as moving 8 bit colors to the screen requires a table lookup for
each pixel to find the associated rgb triple for that pixel.  I have no idea
how much overhead, if any, that that involves.

When you run with 'XWin -engine 1 -fullscreen -depth ?', the '-depth ?'
parameter is ignored because the GDI engine just opens a large GDI window
that covers the entire desktop.  No color depth switching takes place.  Thus
your discovery that you were actually running at 24 bits per pixel.

May I suggest that, if you can set Windows to a display depth of 8 bits with
a refresh rate of 75 Hz that you simply do this before and while running
XWin and switch back afterwards?  I really don't think there is anything
that we can do to help you other than this, as DirectDraw is simply not
allowing a 75 Hz refresh rate at 8 bits per pixel.

Hope that helps,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Chadwick
> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 2:27 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: Curious refresh rate behavior...
>
>
> >From: "Thomas Chadwick" 
>
> [snip]
>
> >If I do this, I get 75Hz and 8-bit depth, but have to give up the
> >DirectDraw
> >engine:
> >
> >    XWin -engine 1 -fullscreen -depth 8
>
> I take it back.  This command-line gives me 75Hz, but not 8-bit
> depth (I get
> 24-bit).
>
>
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From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 17 18:14:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 18:14:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
Message-ID: 

I have setup an anonymous ftp site with preliminary Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe
packages:
ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/

These is based entirely off of Ian Burrell's work.

My primary concerns that I don't know how to resolve are:
1) I didn't do the XFree86-base "meta" package properly.  setup.exe does not
list XFree86-base as a package and it doesn't enforce the dependencies of
the other packages on XFree86-base.

2) I'm not sure why, but uninstalling packages often leaves files around.
For example, uninstalling XFree86-f100 delete all files from
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ except for "UTRG__24.pcf.gz".  Weird.

3) We may need a short post-install script, based off of Xinstall.sh, that
runs mkfontdir in the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local and
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc font directories.  Xinstall.sh says it does
this to make sure that these directories are "up to date".  I guess that
every font package has the right to install fonts in local or misc, but it
seems that none of them do.  Perhaps this won't matter.


That's it for now.

I'm awaiting feedback,

Harold



From brad.boyd@hpa.com.au  Wed Apr 17 18:26:00 2002
From: brad.boyd@hpa.com.au (brad.boyd@hpa.com.au)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 18:26:00 -0000
Subject: Make Error
Message-ID: 

> Hi All, Im trying to install icewm build 1.0.9 for Xfree86
> Im getting the following error and would appreciate any help in finding a
> solution.
> Thank You.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------------------------------------
> make[1]: Entering directory `/tmp/Gnome Patches/icewm-1.0.9/src'
> Compiling misc.o...
> In file included from /usr/include/fcntl.h:14,
>                  from sysdep.h:41,
>                  from misc.cc:7:
> /usr/include/sys/fcntl.h:51: warning: `O_BINARY' redefined
> sysdep.h:18: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
> /usr/include/sys/fcntl.h:52: warning: `O_TEXT' redefined
> sysdep.h:15: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
> misc.cc:457: warning: ANSI C++ forbids declaration `basename' with no type
> misc.cc: In function `const int * basename(const char *)':
> misc.cc:457: new declaration `const int * basename(const char *)'
> base.h:172: ambiguates old declaration `char * basename(const char *)'
> misc.cc: In function `const int * basename(const char *)':
> misc.cc:459: return to `const int *' from `const char *'
> make[1]: *** [misc.o] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/Gnome Patches/icewm-1.0.9/src'
> make: *** [base] Error 2
> 
> 


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From cgf@redhat.com  Wed Apr 17 19:55:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 19:55:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020418025451.GA23633@redhat.com>

On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 09:14:30PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>I have setup an anonymous ftp site with preliminary Cygwin/XFree86
>setup.exe packages: ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/

Looks like you figured out upset.  Sorry about not responding.

>These is based entirely off of Ian Burrell's work.
>
>My primary concerns that I don't know how to resolve are:
>1) I didn't do the XFree86-base "meta" package properly.  setup.exe
>does not list XFree86-base as a package and it doesn't enforce the
>dependencies of the other packages on XFree86-base.

It needs at least an empty tar file.

>2) I'm not sure why, but uninstalling packages often leaves files
>around.  For example, uninstalling XFree86-f100 delete all files from
>/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ except for "UTRG__24.pcf.gz".  Weird.

There was another report of cygwin not removing files in the cygwin
mailing list.  Was that possibly the last in the list from a
/etc/setup/whatever.lst.gz file?

>3) We may need a short post-install script, based off of Xinstall.sh,
>that runs mkfontdir in the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local and
>/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc font directories.  Xinstall.sh says it
>does this to make sure that these directories are "up to date".  I
>guess that every font package has the right to install fonts in local
>or misc, but it seems that none of them do.  Perhaps this won't matter.

How about mounting the font directory in binmode, too?

cgf


From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Wed Apr 17 21:47:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 21:47:00 -0000
Subject: Fonts not found
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

The problem persists - I even tried to re-install all of cygwin/xfree86 
including the Xfscl package, and the problem persists. Here are the details:

I have set up xdmcp on my linux box and I connect with my PC running
Cygwin/xfree86. I connect fine to the linux box, and applications that
use standard 75dpi and 100dpi fonts run fine, but Abiword apparently use
Type 1 fonts, and complains that it cannot find the Times Roman fonts,
and then Abiword crashes. I can see that the fonts are presnt on my
Cygwin/xfree86 PC, so why can't Abiword find them?

Lars.


On 17 Apr 2002, Andrew Markebo wrote:

> / Lars Jensen  wrote:
> | I just installed the Type 1 font package that comes with Cygwin,
> | Xfscl.tgz. The x-server still can't find the fonts. Is there some
> | configuration file I need to edit also to make Cygwin aware of the
> | fonts?
> | 
> | This is what I did:
> | 
> | cd /usr/X11R6
> | extract.exe zxf Xfscl.tgz
> 
> You probably need to run mkfontdir lib/X11/fonts/[whatever the
> fontdirs name was..]
> 
> And doublecheck so it is in the fontpath when X fires up, check the
> log in /tmp
> 
>         /Andy
> 
> -- 
>  The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!
> 

--
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Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 17 22:02:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:02:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: <20020418025451.GA23633@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

> Looks like you figured out upset.  Sorry about not responding.

Actually, I did the same thing that Ian did and reverted to the upset from:
anoncvs@sources.redhat.com:/cvs/src

in the directory:
winsup/cinstall/temp

That version of upset reports the version number as the whole file name
before the .tar.bz2 (i.e. XFree86-bin-4.2.0-1 instead of 4.2.0-1) and also
manages to mangle the version reported from setup.exe:
setup-version: 2.194.2.24^@ %d.%d.%d.%d^@Can't

Oh well, at least I got the script to do a little bit of what I needed it
for.  :)


> It needs at least an empty tar file.

Okay.  I'm working on that now.


> >2) I'm not sure why, but uninstalling packages often leaves files
> >around.  For example, uninstalling XFree86-f100 delete all files from
> >/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ except for "UTRG__24.pcf.gz".  Weird.
>
> There was another report of cygwin not removing files in the cygwin
> mailing list.  Was that possibly the last in the list from a
> /etc/setup/whatever.lst.gz file?

Yes.  That is it exactly.  I also tried this with the XFree86-bin file and
it failed to remove libXxf86vm.a, which was the last file in
XFree86-bin.lst.gz.


> >3) We may need a short post-install script, based off of Xinstall.sh,
> >that runs mkfontdir in the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local and
> >/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc font directories.  Xinstall.sh says it
> >does this to make sure that these directories are "up to date".  I
> >guess that every font package has the right to install fonts in local
> >or misc, but it seems that none of them do.  Perhaps this won't matter.
>
> How about mounting the font directory in binmode, too?

Excellent idea.  Now I just need someone to write that script.  Shouldn't be
too hard.  Any takers?


Harold


From cgf@redhat.com  Wed Apr 17 22:12:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:12:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020418025451.GA23633@redhat.com> 
Message-ID: <20020418051220.GA26031@redhat.com>

On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 01:02:51AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>>Looks like you figured out upset.  Sorry about not responding.
>
>Actually, I did the same thing that Ian did and reverted to the upset
>from: anoncvs@sources.redhat.com:/cvs/src
>
>in the directory: winsup/cinstall/temp

I'd forgotten about that directory.  It's nuked now.

The syntax for upset should just be "upset dir" where `dir' is the
directory containing the distribution.  setup.ini will go to stdout.

  upset -u setup.ini dir

will update an existing setup.ini.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 17 22:18:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:18:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: <20020418051220.GA26031@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

> The syntax for upset should just be "upset dir" where `dir' is the
> directory containing the distribution.  setup.ini will go to stdout.
>
>   upset -u setup.ini dir
>
> will update an existing setup.ini.

I beg to differ.  From my "packages" directory that contains contrib,
release, etc. I have run:
upset .
upset ./
upset ../packages
upset contrib/

You get the idea.  Every single time I get:
$ ../upset/infra/bin/cygwin/upset .
# This file is automatically generated.  If you edit it, your
# edits will be discarded next time the file is generated.
# See http://cygwin.com/setup.html for details.
#
setup-timestamp: 1019106912
setup-version: 2.194.2.24


The new upset doesn't seem to work for me.  Perhaps it is just a problem
with the structure of our package tree.

Harold


From cgf@redhat.com  Wed Apr 17 22:28:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:28:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020418051220.GA26031@redhat.com> 
Message-ID: <20020418052804.GA26250@redhat.com>

On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 01:18:19AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>> The syntax for upset should just be "upset dir" where `dir' is the
>> directory containing the distribution.  setup.ini will go to stdout.
>>
>>   upset -u setup.ini dir
>>
>> will update an existing setup.ini.
>
>I beg to differ.

Try setting it up like sourceware then.  The directory defaults to 'release'.
Just do 'upset -u setup.ini' in a directory containing a the 'release' directory.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 17 22:30:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:30:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe packages with dependencies
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

I just updated the packages at
ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/

to have a working dependency between XFree86-base and the base XFree86
packages, such as XFree86-xserv, XFree86-fnts, etc.

There were two changes required:

1) 'touch contrib/XFree86/XFree86-base/XFree86-base-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2'

2) upset took the list of requirements from XFree86-base/setup.hint and put
them in quotes ("cygwin ...") when it created setup.ini.  upset didn't do
this for any other packages and the Cygwin setup.ini doesn't have quotes
around dependency lists, so I guess that the quotes were peculiar to this
version of upset, perhaps combined with a list of dependencies that is
longer than one line.  I removed the quotes from the 'requires' list from
XFree86-base and all is now well.


Dependencies work for installing.  The behavior I noticed when uninstalling
is that dependencies are ignored.  I'm guessing that setup.exe was designed
that way because there isn't really a good way to handle dependencies when
uninstalling.


Harold


From cgf@redhat.com  Wed Apr 17 22:34:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:34:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages with dependencies
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
Message-ID: <20020418053416.GA26362@redhat.com>

On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 01:30:22AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>2) upset took the list of requirements from XFree86-base/setup.hint and put
>them in quotes ("cygwin ...") when it created setup.ini.  upset didn't do
>this for any other packages and the Cygwin setup.ini doesn't have quotes
>around dependency lists, so I guess that the quotes were peculiar to this
>version of upset, perhaps combined with a list of dependencies that is
>longer than one line.  I removed the quotes from the 'requires' list from
>XFree86-base and all is now well.

That version of upset is an obsolete, buggy version.  That's why I removed
it.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 17 22:37:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:37:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: <20020418052804.GA26250@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

> Try setting it up like sourceware then.  The directory defaults 
> to 'release'.
> Just do 'upset -u setup.ini' in a directory containing a the 
> 'release' directory.

I just moved contrib to release and the new upset works like a dream!

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:28 AM
> To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available
> for comments and testing
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 01:18:19AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
> >> The syntax for upset should just be "upset dir" where `dir' is the
> >> directory containing the distribution.  setup.ini will go to stdout.
> >>
> >>   upset -u setup.ini dir
> >>
> >> will update an existing setup.ini.
> >
> >I beg to differ.
> 
> Try setting it up like sourceware then.  The directory defaults 
> to 'release'.
> Just do 'upset -u setup.ini' in a directory containing a the 
> 'release' directory.
> 
> cgf


From cgf@redhat.com  Wed Apr 17 22:40:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:40:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020418052804.GA26250@redhat.com> 
Message-ID: <20020418053950.GA26388@redhat.com>

On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 01:37:08AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>>Try setting it up like sourceware then.  The directory defaults to
>>'release'.  Just do 'upset -u setup.ini' in a directory containing a
>>the 'release' directory.
>
>I just moved contrib to release and the new upset works like a dream!

Good.  I think I fixed the bug with reading directories, too.  That
was a "feature" that I added in the last week.  Never tested it and,
surprise!, it didn't work.

cgf


From cgf@redhat.com  Wed Apr 17 22:52:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:52:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <20020410030023.GB23551@redhat.com>
References:  <3CB396A5.1070803@znark.com> <20020410015334.GO23551@redhat.com> <3CB39F07.7030203@znark.com> <20020410024203.GX23551@redhat.com> <3CB3A85C.90602@znark.com> <20020410030023.GB23551@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20020418055231.GA26591@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 11:00:23PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 07:50:04PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
>>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>>Name?  Do you mean version?  If you put a version in setup.hint it is
>>>currently ignored.
>>
>>The name from the "@" line and the version header could be used to
>>override the parsing of file names into name and version.
>
>No, the name doesn't override this, currently.

But now it does.  If you have something like this:

foo/
   foo-bob-27-1.tar.bz2

Then the version of the package will be "bob27-1" where previously it
would have been 27-1.

cgf


From iburrell@znark.com  Wed Apr 17 23:01:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 23:01:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for
 comments and testing
References: <20020418025451.GA23633@redhat.com>  <20020418051220.GA26031@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3CBE613E.9050609@znark.com>

Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 01:02:51AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
>>>Looks like you figured out upset.  Sorry about not responding.
>>
>>Actually, I did the same thing that Ian did and reverted to the upset
>>from: anoncvs@sources.redhat.com:/cvs/src
>>
>>in the directory: winsup/cinstall/temp
> 
> 
> I'd forgotten about that directory.  It's nuked now.
> 

Where is the real version? That was the only upset in that CVS 
repository. Is there some other CVS repository?

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From iburrell@stanfordalumni.org  Wed Apr 17 23:20:00 2002
From: iburrell@stanfordalumni.org (Ian Burrell)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 23:20:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for
 comments and testing
References:  <20020418025451.GA23633@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <3CBE658B.2030406@stanfordalumni.org>

Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 09:14:30PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>>My primary concerns that I don't know how to resolve are:
>>1) I didn't do the XFree86-base "meta" package properly.  setup.exe
>>does not list XFree86-base as a package and it doesn't enforce the
>>dependencies of the other packages on XFree86-base.
> 
> 
> It needs at least an empty tar file.
> 

XFree86-base would be the perfect place to put Cygwin specific 
documentation.

>>3) We may need a short post-install script, based off of Xinstall.sh,
>>that runs mkfontdir in the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local and
>>/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc font directories.  Xinstall.sh says it
>>does this to make sure that these directories are "up to date".  I
>>guess that every font package has the right to install fonts in local
>>or misc, but it seems that none of them do.  Perhaps this won't matter.
> 
> 
> How about mounting the font directory in binmode, too?
> 

Is there a way to detect if the fonts directory is already mounted in 
binmode? That is the default, isn't it.

  - Ian

-- 
iburrell@stanfordalumni.org
http://www.znark.com/


From David.Billinghurst@riotinto.com  Wed Apr 17 23:42:00 2002
From: David.Billinghurst@riotinto.com (Billinghurst, David (CRTS))
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 23:42:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe packages with dependencies
Message-ID: 

i have just downloaded and installed.  

I needed to add /usr/X11R6/bin to PATH, and set DISPLAY.  
Client apps work fine using Exceed as server.  I have 
"real work" going on so I can't fiddle too much.


-----Original Message-----
From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
Sent: Thursday, 18 April 2002 3:30 
To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
Cc: cygx
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe packages with
dependencies


I just updated the packages at
ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/

to have a working dependency between XFree86-base and the base XFree86
packages, such as XFree86-xserv, XFree86-fnts, etc.


From francois.perrot@cgey.com  Thu Apr 18 00:48:00 2002
From: francois.perrot@cgey.com (Francois Perrot)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 00:48:00 -0000
Subject: Display problem after update to cygwin 1.3.10 xfree 4.2.
Message-ID: <007701c1e6ac$956608a0$9b4e430a@cgey.cgey.fr>

Hi everyone,

I've updated from cygwin 1.3.3 / xfree 4.1 to cygwin 1.3.10 xfree 4.2.
With cygwin 1.3.3 / xfree 4.1, I was able to open an xterm on my machine by
setting the remote DISPLAY to "fperrot:0.0" (name of my machine).
I've 'xhost +host_name' declarations done to allow those machines to open
display on my machine.
Anyway I receive :

Xlib: connection to "fperrot:0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

When I try to connect. Do I have to configure something else ?

Regards

Francois



From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com  Thu Apr 18 00:55:00 2002
From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bkarnd))
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 00:55:00 -0000
Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-keys = 
	caps-lock
Message-ID: 

Hello,

when I use alt-tab to switch from XWin to a window outside of XWin, the
currently active client window receives every tab I hit to get to the other
window.

Inside XWin, I'm using an old version of mwm (running on a HP/UX 11) to
manage the windows, and I switch with CTRL-TAB.  My installation of cygwin
and XFree86 on it are hardly a week old, so I suppose I am fairly up to
date.  The client windows are cygwin/XFree86's xterm  (the HP/UX xterm seems
unable to handle dead keys inside XWin, although it had no problem with that
using Kea!X, I'm using a belgian keyboard through xkb).

Then I have another special feature: when I accidentally (or on purpose)
press both shift keys, characters remain in uppercase, I have to switch that
of by hitting the shift keys separately.  It happens quite often by
accident, when typing a short word in uppercase, say WHAT?

Great products, both cygwin and the XFree86 port, I feel more at home at
work now ;-)

Gerard


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From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Thu Apr 18 00:55:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 00:55:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe packages with dependencies
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:30 PM
>
> Dependencies work for installing.  The behavior I noticed 
> when uninstalling is that dependencies are ignored.  I'm 
> guessing that setup.exe was designed that way because there 
> isn't really a good way to handle dependencies when uninstalling.

Yeah. On uninstalling we need some user interaction, and the chooser
isn't quite there to do that cleanly (yet).

Rob


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr 18 06:06:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 06:06:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe packages with dependencies
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

David,

> I needed to add /usr/X11R6/bin to PATH, and set DISPLAY.

So you didn't use startxwin.bat?

startxwin.bat is still included in the distribution and it is the preferred
way to start.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Billinghurst, David (CRTS)
> [mailto:David.Billinghurst@riotinto.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 2:42 AM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygx
> Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe packages with
> dependencies
>
>
> i have just downloaded and installed.
>
> I needed to add /usr/X11R6/bin to PATH, and set DISPLAY.
> Client apps work fine using Exceed as server.  I have
> "real work" going on so I can't fiddle too much.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, 18 April 2002 3:30
> To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> Cc: cygx
> Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe packages with
> dependencies
>
>
> I just updated the packages at
> ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
>
> to have a working dependency between XFree86-base and the base XFree86
> packages, such as XFree86-xserv, XFree86-fnts, etc.


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr 18 06:10:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 06:10:00 -0000
Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-keys = caps-lock
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Gerard,

I've flagged these behaviors for a follow up later.

Very interesting problems.  I've not yet heard of pressing both shift-keys
== caps-lock.

I'll get back to you when I have a look at these.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Pille Geert (bkarnd)
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:55 AM
> To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
> Subject: alt-tab: client window receives tab / pressing both shift-keys
> = caps-lock
>
>
> Hello,
>
> when I use alt-tab to switch from XWin to a window outside of XWin, the
> currently active client window receives every tab I hit to get to
> the other
> window.
>
> Inside XWin, I'm using an old version of mwm (running on a HP/UX 11) to
> manage the windows, and I switch with CTRL-TAB.  My installation of cygwin
> and XFree86 on it are hardly a week old, so I suppose I am fairly up to
> date.  The client windows are cygwin/XFree86's xterm  (the HP/UX
> xterm seems
> unable to handle dead keys inside XWin, although it had no
> problem with that
> using Kea!X, I'm using a belgian keyboard through xkb).
>
> Then I have another special feature: when I accidentally (or on purpose)
> press both shift keys, characters remain in uppercase, I have to
> switch that
> of by hitting the shift keys separately.  It happens quite often by
> accident, when typing a short word in uppercase, say WHAT?
>
> Great products, both cygwin and the XFree86 port, I feel more at home at
> work now ;-)
>
> Gerard
>
>
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From arg@cyberscience.com  Thu Apr 18 06:51:00 2002
From: arg@cyberscience.com (Adam Gundy)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 06:51:00 -0000
Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020418143208.00ac55b0@pop3>

 > I'm submitting a bug report to KDE to gather more information.
 >
 > I can reproduce this bug when I put my graphics card into 32 bit color mode,
 > but I need to know if any user out there with a graphics card capable of 24
 > bit color mode has this problem when they are in 24 bit color mode.
 >
 > Please respond ASAP if you can tell me whether or not 24 bit color produces
 > the same problem of no icons in KDE 3.

hi.. I've just discovered this bug when I upgraded to KDE 3 (and spent ages
installing every single KDE package, thinking I was missing the icons :-( )

Switching to 24 bit truecolor (instead of my default 32 bit truecolor) has 
fixed
the problem. Using XVision on the 32 bit display meant that the pictures 
displayed
OK (there are other bugs in XVision though!). I suspect that the fact that 
XVision
doesn't offer 32 bit pixmaps is what makes the difference.

xdpyinfo output for cygwin XFree86 on a 24 bit display:

name of display:    cleveland:0.0
version number:    11.0
vendor string:    The XFree86 Project, Inc
vendor release number:    40200000
XFree86 version: 4.2.0
maximum request size:  4194300 bytes
motion buffer size:  256
bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    32, LSBFirst, 32
image byte order:    LSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats:    7
supported pixmap formats:
     depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
     depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
     depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
     depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
     depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
     depth 24, bits_per_pixel 24, scanline_pad 32
     depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
keycode range:    minimum 8, maximum 255
focus:  window 0x1600017, revert to PointerRoot
number of extensions:    22
     BIG-REQUESTS
     DEC-XTRAP
     DOUBLE-BUFFER
     Extended-Visual-Information
     FontCache
     GLX
     LBX
     MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
     RANDR
     RECORD
     RENDER
     SECURITY
     SGI-GLX
     SHAPE
     SYNC
     TOG-CUP
     XC-APPGROUP
     XC-MISC
     XFree86-Bigfont
     XKEYBOARD
     XTEST
     XVideo
default screen number:    0
number of screens:    1

screen #0:
   dimensions:    1146x811 pixels (388x275 millimeters)
   resolution:    75x75 dots per inch
   depths (7):    24, 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 32
   root window id:    0x36
   depth of root window:    24 planes
   number of colormaps:    minimum 1, maximum 1
   default colormap:    0x20
   default number of colormap cells:    256
   preallocated pixels:    black 0, white 16777215
   options:    backing-store NO, save-unders NO
   largest cursor:    1146x811
   current input event mask:    0xd84031
     KeyPressMask             EnterWindowMask          LeaveWindowMask 

     KeymapStateMask          SubstructureNotifyMask 
SubstructureRedirectMask
     PropertyChangeMask       ColormapChangeMask
   number of visuals:    2
   default visual id:  0x22
   visual:
     visual id:    0x22
     class:    TrueColor
     depth:    24 planes
     available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
     red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
     significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
   visual:
     visual id:    0x23
     class:    TrueColor
     depth:    24 planes
     available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
     red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
     significant bits in color specification:    8 bits


xdpyinfo output for XVision on a 32 bit display:

name of display:    localhost:1.0
version number:    11.0
vendor string:    Santa Cruz Operation Inc.
vendor release number:    730
maximum request size:  4194300 bytes
motion buffer size:  0
bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    8, MSBFirst, 16
image byte order:    MSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats:    2
supported pixmap formats:
     depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 16
     depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
keycode range:    minimum 8, maximum 140
focus:  PointerRoot
number of extensions:    10
     BIG-REQUESTS
     DOUBLE-BUFFER
     GLX
     LBX
     MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
     SCO(C)1996-VisionResumeExtension
     SHAPE
     SYNC
     XC-MISC
     XIE
default screen number:    0
number of screens:    1

screen #0:
   dimensions:    1152x864 pixels (304x228 millimeters)
   resolution:    96x96 dots per inch
   depths (2):    1, 24
   root window id:    0x24
   depth of root window:    24 planes
   number of colormaps:    minimum 1, maximum 1
   default colormap:    0x22
   default number of colormap cells:    256
   preallocated pixels:    black 0, white 16777215
   options:    backing-store YES, save-unders NO
   largest cursor:    32x32
   current input event mask:    0x0
   number of visuals:    2
   default visual id:  0x20
   visual:
     visual id:    0x20
     class:    TrueColor
     depth:    24 planes
     available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
     red, green, blue masks:    0xff, 0xff00, 0xff0000
     significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
   visual:
     visual id:    0x21
     class:    TrueColor
     depth:    24 planes
     available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
     red, green, blue masks:    0xff, 0xff00, 0xff0000
     significant bits in color specification:    8 bits


Seeya,
  Adam
--
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it should be hard to read, and even harder to modify.
These are all my own opinions.


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr 18 07:07:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 07:07:00 -0000
Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020418143208.00ac55b0@pop3>
Message-ID: 

Adam,

What I'd also like to see if the xdpyinfo output for Cygwin/XFree86 on a 32
bit display.

Thanks,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Adam Gundy
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:51 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: kde 3.0 no icons
>
>
>  > I'm submitting a bug report to KDE to gather more information.
>  >
>  > I can reproduce this bug when I put my graphics card into 32
> bit color mode,
>  > but I need to know if any user out there with a graphics card
> capable of 24
>  > bit color mode has this problem when they are in 24 bit color mode.
>  >
>  > Please respond ASAP if you can tell me whether or not 24 bit
> color produces
>  > the same problem of no icons in KDE 3.
>
> hi.. I've just discovered this bug when I upgraded to KDE 3 (and
> spent ages
> installing every single KDE package, thinking I was missing the
> icons :-( )
>
> Switching to 24 bit truecolor (instead of my default 32 bit
> truecolor) has
> fixed
> the problem. Using XVision on the 32 bit display meant that the pictures
> displayed
> OK (there are other bugs in XVision though!). I suspect that the
> fact that
> XVision
> doesn't offer 32 bit pixmaps is what makes the difference.
>
> xdpyinfo output for cygwin XFree86 on a 24 bit display:
>
> name of display:    cleveland:0.0
> version number:    11.0
> vendor string:    The XFree86 Project, Inc
> vendor release number:    40200000
> XFree86 version: 4.2.0
> maximum request size:  4194300 bytes
> motion buffer size:  256
> bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    32, LSBFirst, 32
> image byte order:    LSBFirst
> number of supported pixmap formats:    7
> supported pixmap formats:
>      depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
>      depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
>      depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
>      depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
>      depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
>      depth 24, bits_per_pixel 24, scanline_pad 32
>      depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
> keycode range:    minimum 8, maximum 255
> focus:  window 0x1600017, revert to PointerRoot
> number of extensions:    22
>      BIG-REQUESTS
>      DEC-XTRAP
>      DOUBLE-BUFFER
>      Extended-Visual-Information
>      FontCache
>      GLX
>      LBX
>      MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
>      RANDR
>      RECORD
>      RENDER
>      SECURITY
>      SGI-GLX
>      SHAPE
>      SYNC
>      TOG-CUP
>      XC-APPGROUP
>      XC-MISC
>      XFree86-Bigfont
>      XKEYBOARD
>      XTEST
>      XVideo
> default screen number:    0
> number of screens:    1
>
> screen #0:
>    dimensions:    1146x811 pixels (388x275 millimeters)
>    resolution:    75x75 dots per inch
>    depths (7):    24, 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 32
>    root window id:    0x36
>    depth of root window:    24 planes
>    number of colormaps:    minimum 1, maximum 1
>    default colormap:    0x20
>    default number of colormap cells:    256
>    preallocated pixels:    black 0, white 16777215
>    options:    backing-store NO, save-unders NO
>    largest cursor:    1146x811
>    current input event mask:    0xd84031
>      KeyPressMask             EnterWindowMask          LeaveWindowMask
>
>      KeymapStateMask          SubstructureNotifyMask
> SubstructureRedirectMask
>      PropertyChangeMask       ColormapChangeMask
>    number of visuals:    2
>    default visual id:  0x22
>    visual:
>      visual id:    0x22
>      class:    TrueColor
>      depth:    24 planes
>      available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
>      red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
>      significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
>    visual:
>      visual id:    0x23
>      class:    TrueColor
>      depth:    24 planes
>      available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
>      red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
>      significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
>
>
> xdpyinfo output for XVision on a 32 bit display:
>
> name of display:    localhost:1.0
> version number:    11.0
> vendor string:    Santa Cruz Operation Inc.
> vendor release number:    730
> maximum request size:  4194300 bytes
> motion buffer size:  0
> bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    8, MSBFirst, 16
> image byte order:    MSBFirst
> number of supported pixmap formats:    2
> supported pixmap formats:
>      depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 16
>      depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
> keycode range:    minimum 8, maximum 140
> focus:  PointerRoot
> number of extensions:    10
>      BIG-REQUESTS
>      DOUBLE-BUFFER
>      GLX
>      LBX
>      MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
>      SCO(C)1996-VisionResumeExtension
>      SHAPE
>      SYNC
>      XC-MISC
>      XIE
> default screen number:    0
> number of screens:    1
>
> screen #0:
>    dimensions:    1152x864 pixels (304x228 millimeters)
>    resolution:    96x96 dots per inch
>    depths (2):    1, 24
>    root window id:    0x24
>    depth of root window:    24 planes
>    number of colormaps:    minimum 1, maximum 1
>    default colormap:    0x22
>    default number of colormap cells:    256
>    preallocated pixels:    black 0, white 16777215
>    options:    backing-store YES, save-unders NO
>    largest cursor:    32x32
>    current input event mask:    0x0
>    number of visuals:    2
>    default visual id:  0x20
>    visual:
>      visual id:    0x20
>      class:    TrueColor
>      depth:    24 planes
>      available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
>      red, green, blue masks:    0xff, 0xff00, 0xff0000
>      significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
>    visual:
>      visual id:    0x21
>      class:    TrueColor
>      depth:    24 planes
>      available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
>      red, green, blue masks:    0xff, 0xff00, 0xff0000
>      significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
>
>
> Seeya,
>   Adam
> --
> Real Programmers don't comment their code. If it was hard to write,
> it should be hard to read, and even harder to modify.
> These are all my own opinions.
>


From arg@cyberscience.com  Thu Apr 18 07:17:00 2002
From: arg@cyberscience.com (Adam Gundy)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 07:17:00 -0000
Subject: kde 3.0 no icons
In-Reply-To: 
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020418143208.00ac55b0@pop3>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020418151500.00ac2110@pop3>

At 10:07 18/04/02 -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>Adam,
>
>What I'd also like to see if the xdpyinfo output for Cygwin/XFree86 on a 32
>bit display.

sorry... I assumed you'd already have that. Here it is:

name of display:    localhost:0.0
version number:    11.0
vendor string:    The XFree86 Project, Inc
vendor release number:    40200000
XFree86 version: 4.2.0
maximum request size:  4194300 bytes
motion buffer size:  256
bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    32, LSBFirst, 32
image byte order:    LSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats:    7
supported pixmap formats:
     depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
     depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
     depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
     depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
     depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
     depth 24, bits_per_pixel 24, scanline_pad 32
     depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
keycode range:    minimum 8, maximum 255
focus:  PointerRoot
number of extensions:    22
     BIG-REQUESTS
     DEC-XTRAP
     DOUBLE-BUFFER
     Extended-Visual-Information
     FontCache
     GLX
     LBX
     MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
     RANDR
     RECORD
     RENDER
     SECURITY
     SGI-GLX
     SHAPE
     SYNC
     TOG-CUP
     XC-APPGROUP
     XC-MISC
     XFree86-Bigfont
     XKEYBOARD
     XTEST
     XVideo
default screen number:    0
number of screens:    1

screen #0:
   dimensions:    1146x811 pixels (388x275 millimeters)
   resolution:    75x75 dots per inch
   depths (7):    32, 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 24
   root window id:    0x36
   depth of root window:    32 planes
   number of colormaps:    minimum 1, maximum 1
   default colormap:    0x20
   default number of colormap cells:    2048
   preallocated pixels:    black 0, white 16777215
   options:    backing-store NO, save-unders NO
   largest cursor:    1146x811
   current input event mask:    0x0
   number of visuals:    2
   default visual id:  0x22
   visual:
     visual id:    0x22
     class:    TrueColor
     depth:    32 planes
     available colormap entries:    2048 per subfield
     red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
     significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
   visual:
     visual id:    0x23
     class:    TrueColor
     depth:    32 planes
     available colormap entries:    2048 per subfield
     red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
     significant bits in color specification:    8 bits



Seeya,
  Adam
--
Real Programmers don't comment their code. If it was hard to write,
it should be hard to read, and even harder to modify.
These are all my own opinions.


From holger.vogt@ims.fhg.de  Thu Apr 18 08:10:00 2002
From: holger.vogt@ims.fhg.de (Holger Vogt)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 08:10:00 -0000
Subject: Subject: Re: Problem: extreme speed difference NT4 <> Win98SE runing 
 Xfree 
Message-ID: <3CBEE1DE.A1BFEDD6@ims.fhg.de>

My display slowed down dramatically  when I moved from a 1024x768 screen
to a new display with 1280x1024 resolution (both with ME).

Holger Vogt


From gmiller@cs.sunysb.edu  Thu Apr 18 12:00:00 2002
From: gmiller@cs.sunysb.edu (Jerry Miller)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 12:00:00 -0000
Subject: Pixmap practical size limitation?
Message-ID: <001601c1e70a$ca519d00$1e0ef582@cs.sunysb.edu>

In modifying an existing application, which contained
one (scrolled) DrawingArea and two (scrolled) Text
widgets, I wanted to use multicolor text and decided
to use two more DrawingArea widgets to accomplish
this.  However, only the 2000x2000 original Pixmap
is reliably written for the refreshment of the original
DrawingArea.

In order to accommodate the potentially long and/or
wide range of text in the emulated Text widgets, I
created a Pixmap of size 5000x4000 and 10000x2000,
respectively.  To be sure it wasn't something in the
rendition of the text strings that was at fault in their
unpredictable behavior, I drew a black 20x100
rectangle in the upper left corner of each Pixmap
immediately after creation.  Only the one for the
2000x2000 Pixmap appears in the associated
DrawingArea window.

Other than their sizes (and the variable names,
of course), there is virtually no difference between
these Pixmaps.  In fact, if I temporarily change
the dimensions of the other two to 2000x2000,
I find that their behavior becomes reliable once
again.

None of the X documentation mentions any
size limitations for the Pixmap, whose datatype
is "opaque."  (Thanks a lot, MIT!)  Even if
there were one, it should generate a predictable
error message, rather than an unpredictable
behavior.  Anyway, even if "unsigned int"
referred to 16 bits on my computer (which it
does not), these dimensions would still be
within range - for that matter, they would even
be accommodated by "signed short"!

Is this a known bug?  If so, can I get around it,
albeit kludgily, by declaring 21 variables of type
Pixmap and doing redundant XDrawString()
calls to be sure that any that might fall withing
the bounds of the write will be updated, or is
there a limit on the _total_ amount of memory
available for Pixmap data?

I am running under Windows NT4, SP3, with
the Hummingbird Window Manager, v.6.1.
(The window manager supplied with cygwin
is impractical for any sophisticated applications.)



From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr 18 12:16:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 12:16:00 -0000
Subject: Pixmap practical size limitation?
In-Reply-To: <001601c1e70a$ca519d00$1e0ef582@cs.sunysb.edu>
Message-ID: 

Jerry,

This is a Cygwin/XFree86-specific mailing list.  Your question about whether
40 MB to 80 MB pixmaps are allowed is a general XFree86/X question that
should be asked and answered by general XFree86/X mailing lists or
documentation.

Please check out these websites for more information and mailing list
addresses:
http://xfree86.org/
http://www.x.org/

You might also want to look in books, etc. for an answer.

Sorry we can't help,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jerry Miller
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 2:57 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Pixmap practical size limitation?
>
>
> In modifying an existing application, which contained
> one (scrolled) DrawingArea and two (scrolled) Text
> widgets, I wanted to use multicolor text and decided
> to use two more DrawingArea widgets to accomplish
> this.  However, only the 2000x2000 original Pixmap
> is reliably written for the refreshment of the original
> DrawingArea.
>
> In order to accommodate the potentially long and/or
> wide range of text in the emulated Text widgets, I
> created a Pixmap of size 5000x4000 and 10000x2000,
> respectively.  To be sure it wasn't something in the
> rendition of the text strings that was at fault in their
> unpredictable behavior, I drew a black 20x100
> rectangle in the upper left corner of each Pixmap
> immediately after creation.  Only the one for the
> 2000x2000 Pixmap appears in the associated
> DrawingArea window.
>
> Other than their sizes (and the variable names,
> of course), there is virtually no difference between
> these Pixmaps.  In fact, if I temporarily change
> the dimensions of the other two to 2000x2000,
> I find that their behavior becomes reliable once
> again.
>
> None of the X documentation mentions any
> size limitations for the Pixmap, whose datatype
> is "opaque."  (Thanks a lot, MIT!)  Even if
> there were one, it should generate a predictable
> error message, rather than an unpredictable
> behavior.  Anyway, even if "unsigned int"
> referred to 16 bits on my computer (which it
> does not), these dimensions would still be
> within range - for that matter, they would even
> be accommodated by "signed short"!
>
> Is this a known bug?  If so, can I get around it,
> albeit kludgily, by declaring 21 variables of type
> Pixmap and doing redundant XDrawString()
> calls to be sure that any that might fall withing
> the bounds of the write will be updated, or is
> there a limit on the _total_ amount of memory
> available for Pixmap data?
>
> I am running under Windows NT4, SP3, with
> the Hummingbird Window Manager, v.6.1.
> (The window manager supplied with cygwin
> is impractical for any sophisticated applications.)
>
>


From a.rburgers@freeler.nl  Thu Apr 18 13:40:00 2002
From: a.rburgers@freeler.nl (Teun Burgers)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 13:40:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe packages available for 
 comments and testing
References: 
Message-ID: <3CBF2D86.60C40E08@freeler.nl>

Harold Hunt wrote:
 
> I'm awaiting feedback,

This is the first time I installed/used xfree86 at all. I used setup on
the URL you gave and everything went smoothly (including the
dependencies).

I downloaded and installed just the basic set, added /usr/X11R6/bin
to my path, ran startx (got a lot of warnings from Zonealarm which
makes sense of cause) and started twm after that.

Very good job!

regards

Teun



From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Thu Apr 18 14:00:00 2002
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:00:00 -0000
Subject: Curious refresh rate behavior...
Message-ID: 

>From: "Harold Hunt" 
>To: "Thomas Chadwick" , 
>Subject: RE: Curious refresh rate behavior...
>Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 18:45:07 -0400
>
>Thomas,
>
>Well, answer me this one question:
>
>What refresh rates does Windows 2000 allow when you set the Windows color
>depth to 8 bits?
>

I switched Windows to 1024x768x8 and got 75Hz.
I then ran XWin -fullscreen and got 1024x768x8 @ 75Hz.
I then quit XWin and reset Windows to 1024x768x24 @ 75Hz.
I then ran XWin -fullscreen -depth 8 and got 1024x768x8 @ 75Hz!

Strange.  I'll chaulk it up to some funny business with DirectDraw or the 
Video Driver.

Thanks.


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From cgf@redhat.com  Thu Apr 18 19:02:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 19:02:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: <3CBF2D86.60C40E08@freeler.nl>
References:  <3CBF2D86.60C40E08@freeler.nl>
Message-ID: <20020419020233.GK7323@redhat.com>

On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 10:33:10PM +0200, Teun Burgers wrote:
>Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
>> I'm awaiting feedback,
>
>This is the first time I installed/used xfree86 at all. I used setup on
>the URL you gave and everything went smoothly (including the
>dependencies).
>
>I downloaded and installed just the basic set, added /usr/X11R6/bin
>to my path, ran startx (got a lot of warnings from Zonealarm which
>makes sense of cause) and started twm after that.
>
>Very good job!

Shall we add this to the cygwin distro or are we still waiting for
some postinstall shell script work?

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr 18 22:24:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:24:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: <20020419020233.GK7323@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Chris,

> Shall we add this to the cygwin distro or are we still waiting for
> some postinstall shell script work?

These will forever be known as Harold's Famous Last Words:
	Sure Chris, why not?  Go ahead and add the packages to the distro.

Be aware, I just updated XFree86-xserv to 4.2.0-2, so you'll need to grab
the latest packages off of ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/

That's all for now.

I can't wait to see how many people use Cygwin/XFree86 now!

Oh, we can wait for the postinstall shell script.  That will really be just
icing on the cake.

Harold


From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com  Fri Apr 19 06:33:00 2002
From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bkarnd))
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 06:33:00 -0000
Subject: key repeats when other window pops up
Message-ID: 

>From the keyboard testing department, April 19 2002.

Today we noticed the following behaviour from XWin:

Whilst typing merrily away in an xterm-client, all of a sudden a message
window popped up, as message windows are wont to do.  The xterm-client lost
control, and did not notice that the end user had released the key he was
pressing in xterm, in this case, the "a"-key.  Under the impression that the
end-user was still holding the "a"-key, the xterm-client continued
displaying "a"-characters, and would still be doing so, had he not been
stopped by the end-user himself.

Please ignore this message if the behaviour described above is not, as is
often much to hastily concluded, a bug, but rather a feature to occupy the
clients while the end user is being distracted.

With the utmost respect,

we remain,

yours faithfully,

etc. etc.


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From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Fri Apr 19 07:26:00 2002
From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 07:26:00 -0000
Subject: XFree86 4.2.0 under Cygwin on Win98 w/ i810 won't display CDE
 fro m HPUX
In-Reply-To: <1E5BB4E16573714B9A0CB774B2AB0CC6164691@mailserver.sedata.com>
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Michael Reaser wrote:

> 
> XWin -query aa.bb.cc.dd -fp tcp/aa.bb.cc.dd:7000 
> 
> Fatal server error:
> XDMCP fatal error: Session failed Session 6 failed for display 0.0.0.0:0:
> Cannot open display

you need the -from parameter.

XWin -query aa.bb.cc.dd -from localip (not 127.0.0.1)

bye
    ago
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From cgf@redhat.com  Fri Apr 19 09:52:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:52:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020419020233.GK7323@redhat.com> 
Message-ID: <20020419165227.GH20463@redhat.com>

On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:24:48AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>Chris,
>
>> Shall we add this to the cygwin distro or are we still waiting for
>> some postinstall shell script work?
>
>These will forever be known as Harold's Famous Last Words:
>	Sure Chris, why not?  Go ahead and add the packages to the distro.
>
>Be aware, I just updated XFree86-xserv to 4.2.0-2, so you'll need to grab
>the latest packages off of ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
>
>That's all for now.
>
>I can't wait to see how many people use Cygwin/XFree86 now!

Ditto.  Hope you're ready for this.

cgf


From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Fri Apr 19 10:05:00 2002
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 10:05:00 -0000
Subject: New Xfree Cygwin Package...
Message-ID: 

I've been watching with interest all this work on packaging the Xfree/XWin 
stuff.  Now that it appears to be a reality, what do you recommend for those 
of us who already have Xfree installed via the "old" method?

I for one would like to move over the the Cygwin package method becaused I 
like being able to into the Cygwin setup program to see what's changed.  
However, I'm a little hesitant to go installing the new packages until I 
understand what the impact on my existing setup might be.


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From cgf@redhat.com  Fri Apr 19 10:15:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 10:15:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: <20020419165227.GH20463@redhat.com>
References: <20020419020233.GK7323@redhat.com>  <20020419165227.GH20463@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20020419171504.GA23436@redhat.com>

On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 12:52:27PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:24:48AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>>Chris,
>>
>>> Shall we add this to the cygwin distro or are we still waiting for
>>> some postinstall shell script work?
>>
>>These will forever be known as Harold's Famous Last Words:
>>	Sure Chris, why not?  Go ahead and add the packages to the distro.
>>
>>Be aware, I just updated XFree86-xserv to 4.2.0-2, so you'll need to grab
>>the latest packages off of ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
>>
>>That's all for now.
>>
>>I can't wait to see how many people use Cygwin/XFree86 now!
>
>Ditto.  Hope you're ready for this.

It's up there.  Should be on mirrors shortly.

One thing I just noticed, though (by looking at
http://cygwin.com/packages/), was that the source tar.bz2 files don't
seem to be part of this.  There should probably be fewer source tar
balls than binary but they should be part of the distribution, right?
If not, we'll inevitably get questions.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr 19 13:56:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 13:56:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: <20020419171504.GA23436@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Chris,

> It's up there.  Should be on mirrors shortly.

Very cool.

> One thing I just noticed, though (by looking at
> http://cygwin.com/packages/), was that the source tar.bz2 files don't
> seem to be part of this.  There should probably be fewer source tar
> balls than binary but they should be part of the distribution, right?
> If not, we'll inevitably get questions.

I've thought about this enough to make my head spin.  The only real solution
I could come up with is to tell folks to go to the XFree86 CVS tree.

The main problem with -src packages for us is that almost nothing will
change after an XFree86 release except for the xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin
directory, where I make modifications to the XWin server.  So, what do I do
for packaging?  Which of the XFree86-* packages do I include source with?
Do I include one huge tarball with everything and another small tarball that
has just the hw/xwin directory so that it can be easily updated?  I'm
confused.

I didn't quite gather from the earlier discussions whether we can have a
source package seperate from any binary packages.  i.e., could we have
XFree86-full-src without an associated binary package?  Or would we have to
make XFree86-base-src the package that contained the full source archive.


In a related question that has to do with my laziness, I need a way to
tarball a CVS tree without including the CVS directories.  I'm sure this can
be done with a simple script, but I'm a programmer not a script writer.
Anyone want to point me to an existing script that does this, or write one
for me?


Later,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 1:15 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com; cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available
> for comments and testing
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 12:52:27PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> >On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 01:24:48AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
> >>Chris,
> >>
> >>> Shall we add this to the cygwin distro or are we still waiting for
> >>> some postinstall shell script work?
> >>
> >>These will forever be known as Harold's Famous Last Words:
> >>	Sure Chris, why not?  Go ahead and add the packages to the distro.
> >>
> >>Be aware, I just updated XFree86-xserv to 4.2.0-2, so you'll
> need to grab
> >>the latest packages off of ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> >>
> >>That's all for now.
> >>
> >>I can't wait to see how many people use Cygwin/XFree86 now!
> >
> >Ditto.  Hope you're ready for this.
>
> It's up there.  Should be on mirrors shortly.
>
> One thing I just noticed, though (by looking at
> http://cygwin.com/packages/), was that the source tar.bz2 files don't
> seem to be part of this.  There should probably be fewer source tar
> balls than binary but they should be part of the distribution, right?
> If not, we'll inevitably get questions.
>
> cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr 19 14:05:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:05:00 -0000
Subject: New Xfree Cygwin Package...
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Thomas,

> I've been watching with interest all this work on packaging the
> Xfree/XWin
> stuff.  Now that it appears to be a reality, what do you
> recommend for those
> of us who already have Xfree installed via the "old" method?
>
> I for one would like to move over the the Cygwin package method
> becaused I
> like being able to into the Cygwin setup program to see what's changed.
> However, I'm a little hesitant to go installing the new packages until I
> understand what the impact on my existing setup might be.

You have an excellent point.  Unfortunately, the answer is, "I don't know".
I haven't yet tried installing Cygwin/XFree86 via setup.exe overtop of an
existing Cygwin/XFree86 installation.  I'd like to know what happens, but
I'm not sure that I would recommend doing it.

I think the recommended course of action is to move /usr/X11R6 and /etc/X11
to backup directories and install Cygwin/XFree86 via setup.exe.  Be sure
that the new Cygwin/XFree86 installation works and that you have copied over
any modified files, etc. to the new directories, then get rid of the old
directories.  I have to do this all the time during development on
Cygwin/XFree86.  Here are the commands I use:

mv /usr/X11R6 /usr/X11R6_works
mv /etc/X11 /etc/X11_works


Hope that helps,

Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr 19 14:17:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:17:00 -0000
Subject: key repeats when other window pops up
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Gerard,

Yes, we have been aware of that behavior for some time now.  In fact, it is
listed as the first item on the Development To-Do List:
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/todo.html

We have a patch for this problem.  However, in the course of applying this
patch I realized that there is a second problem that was originally thought
to be a bug of the patch that fixes your problem.  This other bug is that
when Cygwin/XFree86 gets bogged down in processing, such as when running the
test Native GDI server (which is really slow right now because it does every
single graphics operations as a set of thousands of simple line draws).

For example:
1) Open the test Cygwin/XFree86 server in Native GDI mode.  (you can't do
this unless you build from CVS)

2) Run 'xdpyinfo', 'ls' on /usr/X11R6/bin, or some other program that will
fill an xterm's scroll buffer with lines of text.  Notice that there is an
extra blank command line after the output.  This is because somewhere along
the way the 'enter' key gets fired twice.

3) Scroll to the top of the xterm scroll buffer (this will take seconds).

4) Type 'exit' or any other word, but do not press enter.  This will cause
xterm to scroll down to the command line.  (this will take seconds).

5) Notice that 'exit' comes out as 'eexit'.  No, this is not because the 'e'
that you typed is being echoed late.  This is an actual duplicate key event,
because if you press 'enter' xterm will report that 'eexit' cannot be found.


I did much investigating into this problem using printf's sprinkled
throughout the code.  I was able to figure out that it wasn't the hw/xwin
code that processes Windows keyboard messages that was duplicating events.
Rather, there is a procedure deep in the server that seems to be duplicating
the events.  I built a debug version of the tree and tried to debug it but
gdb kept crashing and I ran out of time.


To make a long story short, after all that excitement I kinda put off those
patches for awhile.  I should go ahead and apply them since they solve a
very real and current problem, and I have determined that the patch is not
the cause of the mystery key repeat problem.


I hope that muddies things up for you :)

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Pille Geert (bkarnd)
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 10:33 AM
> To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com'
> Subject: key repeats when other window pops up
>
>
> >From the keyboard testing department, April 19 2002.
>
> Today we noticed the following behaviour from XWin:
>
> Whilst typing merrily away in an xterm-client, all of a sudden a message
> window popped up, as message windows are wont to do.  The
> xterm-client lost
> control, and did not notice that the end user had released the key he was
> pressing in xterm, in this case, the "a"-key.  Under the
> impression that the
> end-user was still holding the "a"-key, the xterm-client continued
> displaying "a"-characters, and would still be doing so, had he not been
> stopped by the end-user himself.
>
> Please ignore this message if the behaviour described above is not, as is
> often much to hastily concluded, a bug, but rather a feature to occupy the
> clients while the end user is being distracted.
>
> With the utmost respect,
>
> we remain,
>
> yours faithfully,
>
> etc. etc.
>
>
> ===============================
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From Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de  Fri Apr 19 14:38:00 2002
From: Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de (Benjamin Riefenstahl)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:38:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

"Harold Hunt"  writes:
> Excellent idea.  Now I just need someone to write that script.
> Shouldn't be too hard.  Any takers?

How about

  fontdir=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts
  wfontdir=`cygpath -w $fontdir`
  mount -bfs $wfontdir $fontdir 2> /dev/null || mount -bfu $wfontdir $fontdir

IOW, create a system mount in binary mode on the font directory,
disregarding any existing mount on the same place.  If the user is not
allowed to create a system mount, create a user mount instead.

This would break when there already is a user mount in text mode.
That seems pretty unlikely, though.


so long, benny


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Fri Apr 19 15:28:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 15:28:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 6:56 AM


> In a related question that has to do with my laziness, I need 
> a way to tarball a CVS tree without including the CVS 
> directories.  I'm sure this can be done with a simple script, 
> but I'm a programmer not a script writer. Anyone want to 
> point me to an existing script that does this, or write one for me?

Grab the -src for one of the packages that Chuck or I maintain - say
libxslt. There is a tar command in the .sh that filters out various
directories... I'm sure you can adapt it easily.

Rob


From cgf@redhat.com  Fri Apr 19 15:47:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 15:47:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020419171504.GA23436@redhat.com> 
Message-ID: <20020419224747.GA30212@redhat.com>

On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 04:55:57PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>The main problem with -src packages for us is that almost nothing will
>change after an XFree86 release except for the
>xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin directory, where I make modifications to
>the XWin server.  So, what do I do for packaging?  Which of the
>XFree86-* packages do I include source with?  Do I include one huge
>tarball with everything and another small tarball that has just the
>hw/xwin directory so that it can be easily updated?  I'm confused.

I had the same thoughts and hoped you'd have a brilliant solution.  :-)

>I didn't quite gather from the earlier discussions whether we can have
>a source package seperate from any binary packages.  i.e., could we
>have XFree86-full-src without an associated binary package?  Or would
>we have to make XFree86-base-src the package that contained the full
>source archive.

Hmm.  Yes.  I think this would work.  That might be the best solution.

In fact, it may be a nice trend setter.

>
>In a related question that has to do with my laziness, I need a way to
>tarball a CVS tree without including the CVS directories.  I'm sure this can
>be done with a simple script, but I'm a programmer not a script writer.
>Anyone want to point me to an existing script that does this, or write one
>for me?

 From my "generate a package" script:

find $package_src/* -print -follow | egrep -v '\.cvsignore|\.bak$|\.orig$|~$|^.#|CVS|%redact|/tags$' | egrep -v "$src_exclude" |
 sort | tar -T - --no-recursion -cjf "$tarstem"-src.tar.bz2

cgf


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Fri Apr 19 16:21:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:21:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:cgf@redhat.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 8:48 AM

> >I didn't quite gather from the earlier discussions whether 
> we can have 
> >a source package seperate from any binary packages.  i.e., could we 
> >have XFree86-full-src without an associated binary package?  
> Or would 
> >we have to make XFree86-base-src the package that contained the full 
> >source archive.
> 
> Hmm.  Yes.  I think this would work.  That might be the best solution.
> 
> In fact, it may be a nice trend setter.

I think setup.exe needs a little work before doing this, but it's a good
direction. (i.e. setup.exe should have a view to only show src packages,
and a view to only show binaries - to avoid confusing folk). (Think
apt-get source vs apt-get install).

Rob


From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Fri Apr 19 16:25:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:25:00 -0000
Subject: qt 2.3.1 beta 1 release available
Message-ID: <002301c1e7f9$71e4af50$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>

Hi all,

the kde-cygwin team has released the qt 2.3.1 beta 1 release.
This release is an update to the official qt 2.3.1 with all cygwin related
patches from the 2.3.0 release applied.
The most imported change is optimized qdir/qfile code, which speeds up qt file
dialog displaying.

You can found qt-cygwin under http://kde-cygwin.sf.net.

Ralf


From cgf@redhat.com  Fri Apr 19 17:44:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 17:44:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
Message-ID: <20020420004448.GD28399@redhat.com>

On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 11:17:56PM +0200, Benjamin Riefenstahl wrote:
>"Harold Hunt"  writes:
>> Excellent idea.  Now I just need someone to write that script.
>> Shouldn't be too hard.  Any takers?
>
>How about
>
>  fontdir=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts
>  wfontdir=`cygpath -w $fontdir`
>  mount -bfs $wfontdir $fontdir 2> /dev/null || mount -bfu $wfontdir $fontdir
>
>IOW, create a system mount in binary mode on the font directory,
>disregarding any existing mount on the same place.  If the user is not
>allowed to create a system mount, create a user mount instead.
>
>This would break when there already is a user mount in text mode.
>That seems pretty unlikely, though.

This looks pretty good to me.

How about something like this, though:

  fontdir=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts
  wfontdir=`cygpath -w $fontdir`
  umount -u $fontdir 2>/dev/null
  mount -bfs $wfontdir $fontdir 2> /dev/null || mount -bfu $wfontdir $fontdir

Just to ensure that there is no user mount?

Btw, I like the use of the fontdir variable in this context.  It's a
little thing, but...

cgf


From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Fri Apr 19 19:03:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 19:03:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: <20020420015932.57897.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20020420015932.57897.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020420020340.GF28399@redhat.com>

And here it begins...

Cygwin/XFree86 has its own mailing list:  cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com.

If you want help you should ask the experts.

I've redirected this message there.

cgf

On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 03:59:32AM +0200, Sylvain Petreolle wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I wanted to update my existing Xfree86-4.2.0-1
>installation.
>So i choose a "default" Xfree86 installation.
>All files downloaded correct,
>and i was told that everything was ok.
>
>But at reboot,
>a 65497 bytes wininit.ini wants to rename/rewrite 627
>files, and no one is replaced (wininit.ini isn't even
>renamed to .bak)
>
>This damn thing makes windows write "Please wait while
>updating your configuration files..." every time
>I reboot if I don't rename the file.
>could the fact that wininit.ini is too big make it
>fail ?
>
>I'm running it under Windows Me.


From cgf@redhat.com  Fri Apr 19 19:12:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 19:12:00 -0000
Subject: Send an announcement to cygwin-announce?
Message-ID: <20020420021206.GA500@redhat.com>

Harold, do you want to send an announcement to cygwin-announce?

If so, I'd appreciate it if you'd pattern it on one of the announcements
that you find in the cygwin-announce archives, e.g., see below.

The important bit is to set Reply-To to cygwin-xfree and mention
cygwin-xfree in the announcement.

I'll set up a cygwin-xfree-announce in the next couple of days,
too.

Should there be a link to setup.exe on the Cygwin/XFree86 web page.

cgf
(who's so happy that this is part of the main installation now)

From: Harold Hunt 
To: cygwin-announce@cygwin.com
Subject: New package: XFree86 4.2.0
Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com

The XFree86 package developed by the Cygwin/XFree86 project is now
part of the standard distribution.  You can select it by clicking on
the XFree86 portion of the package selection after clicking on
the "Install Cygwin Now!" link at the main cygwin web page.

Blah, blah.

If you have questions or comments, please send them to the Cygwin
mailing list at: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com .  I would appreciate it if you
would use this mailing list rather than emailing me directly.

If you want to make a point or ask a question, the cygwin-xfree mailing
list is the appropriate place.

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From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr 19 19:47:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 19:47:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: <20020420020340.GF28399@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Robert,

Cygwin's setup.exe doesn't use wininit.ini, does it?  I'm going to guess
that the answer is something along the lines of "no way in hell", but I
figure I had better check with you.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 10:04 PM
> To: cygwin@cygwin.com
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
>
>
> And here it begins...
>
> Cygwin/XFree86 has its own mailing list:  cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com.
>
> If you want help you should ask the experts.
>
> I've redirected this message there.
>
> cgf
>
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 03:59:32AM +0200, Sylvain Petreolle wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I wanted to update my existing Xfree86-4.2.0-1
> >installation.
> >So i choose a "default" Xfree86 installation.
> >All files downloaded correct,
> >and i was told that everything was ok.
> >
> >But at reboot,
> >a 65497 bytes wininit.ini wants to rename/rewrite 627
> >files, and no one is replaced (wininit.ini isn't even
> >renamed to .bak)
> >
> >This damn thing makes windows write "Please wait while
> >updating your configuration files..." every time
> >I reboot if I don't rename the file.
> >could the fact that wininit.ini is too big make it
> >fail ?
> >
> >I'm running it under Windows Me.


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Fri Apr 19 19:56:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 19:56:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 12:47 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Cc: Robert Collins
> Subject: RE: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
> 
> 
> Robert,
> 
> Cygwin's setup.exe doesn't use wininit.ini, does it?  I'm 
> going to guess that the answer is something along the lines 
> of "no way in hell", but I figure I had better check with you.

It does, via the proscribed windows API to perform copy-on-reboot for
in-use files in win95.

Windows is meant to perform the copies before loading the GUI, and then
remove the ini entries after it does that.

If I could get some details - the /var/log/setup.log and setup.log.full,
and the machine layout (where windows cygwin etc are), and a copy of the
ineffective wininit.ini, I will see what I can figure out.

As to why this happened, I assume that the user was running X at the
same time as installing it via setup.exe.

Rob


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Fri Apr 19 19:56:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 19:56:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
References: 
Message-ID: <3CC0D991.4000203@ece.gatech.edu>

Robert Collins wrote:


>>>we have to make XFree86-base-src the package that contained the full 
>>>source archive.
>>>
>>Hmm.  Yes.  I think this would work.  That might be the best solution.
>>
>>In fact, it may be a nice trend setter.
>>
> 
> I think setup.exe needs a little work before doing this, but it's a good
> direction. (i.e. setup.exe should have a view to only show src packages,
> and a view to only show binaries - to avoid confusing folk). (Think
> apt-get source vs apt-get install).


How about my 'external-src: ' idea?

setup hint for XFree86-[anything but base]-...
   external-src: XFree86-base
setup hint for XFree86-base-
   

and both upset and setup will understand this and "do the right thing": 
upset needs to, for those pkgs with an external-src in their setup hint, 
find the -src tarball for the indicated package, whose VER-REL string 
matches the package-under-consideration, and put THAT into setup.hint, 
so (for the fonts "package") you get
   install: release/xfree/xfree86-fonts/XFree86-fonts-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2
   source: release/xfree/xfree86-base/XFree86-base-4.2.0-2-src.tar.bz2
[prev]
   install: release/xfree/xfree86-fonts/XFree86-fonts-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
   source: release/xfree/xfree86-base/XFree86-base-4.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2

Also, setup must do the following (even without new 'views' and whatnot)
   1) all XFree86-...- indicate that src is available (that is, 
'presence of a -src tarball' == 'no -src tarball but external-src: 
marker in setup.hint'
   2) clicking on any one (or multiple) of the 'src' checkboxes in setup 
will trigger a download (and only one download) of the actual 
XFree86-base-4.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2 package


---------
Later, we can get even fancier, and allow the specification of multiple 
-src packages...then the monolithic 'XFree86-base-4.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2' 
can be split into "the stuff that cygwin-xfree doesn't change" and "the 
stuff that changes frequently" (e.g. .../hw/xwin). e.g.

setup hint for XFree86-[anything but base]-...
   external-src: XFree86-base
setup hint for XFree86-base-
   
   extra-src: XFree86-base2

in release/xfree/xfree86-base/
   XFree86-base-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
   XFree86-base-4.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2
   XFree86-base2-4.2.0-1-src.tar.bz2

But that (or something like it) can be later....
---------

--Chuck

P.S.  Chris, where'd upset go?  the current version used to be in 
htdocs, but it's gone now.  AND, the old version which lived in 
cinstall/temp, is still there -- and you said you were going to remove it.

Did you remove the wrong one?




From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Fri Apr 19 20:00:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 20:00:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Wilson [mailto:cwilson@ece.gatech.edu] 
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 12:59 PM

> Also, setup must do the following (even without new 'views' 
> and whatnot)

Setup should already do that, why not make a test setup.ini and see what
happens :]. It's all data driven and there is no requirement for -src
packages to follow the same name as the base.

Rob


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Fri Apr 19 20:07:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 20:07:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
Message-ID: 

I realised the ini file was present in Sylvain's email.

Sylvain - do the .NEW files exist? Are the paths correct?


ROb


From cgf@redhat.com  Fri Apr 19 20:12:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 20:12:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
In-Reply-To: <3CC0D991.4000203@ece.gatech.edu>
References:  <3CC0D991.4000203@ece.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <20020420031238.GA1544@redhat.com>

On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 10:59:29PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote:
>P.S.  Chris, where'd upset go?  the current version used to be in 
>htdocs, but it's gone now.  AND, the old version which lived in 
>cinstall/temp, is still there -- and you said you were going to remove it.

http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2002-02/msg00028.html

cinstall/temp is an empty directory.

>Did you remove the wrong one?

Nope.

upset2 is gone now, though.  It is now 'upset'.

cgf


From spetreolle@yahoo.fr  Fri Apr 19 21:08:00 2002
From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 21:08:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020420040759.46533.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com>

> It does, via the proscribed windows API to perform
> copy-on-reboot for
> in-use files in win95.
> Windows is meant to perform the copies before
> loading the GUI, and then
> remove the ini entries after it does that.
Already know this (I develop for Wine Emulator :))
But that's ok to review point after point to see a
failure somewhere.
> 
> If I could get some details - the /var/log/setup.log
> and setup.log.full, and the machine layout (where
windows cygwin etc
> are), and a copy of the
> ineffective wininit.ini, I will see what I can
> figure out.
Ok, I attached them.

cygcheck -s -r -v follows separately (Yahoo doesn't
allow >3 attachments per message).

> 
> As to why this happened, I assume that the user was
> running X at the
> same time as installing it via setup.exe.
> 
> Rob 
I just updated Cygwin via typing
http://www.cygwin.com/setup.exe in IE 6.

Cygwin-X wasn't running at the time.
Even Cygwin itself wasn't running.


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From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 21:10:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
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As I wrote in last message, I attached output of
cygcheck.


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From spetreolle@yahoo.fr  Fri Apr 19 21:15:00 2002
From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 21:15:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020420041507.47731.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com>

 --- Robert Collins  a
??crit??: > I realised the ini file was present in
Sylvain's
> email.
> 
> Sylvain - do the .NEW files exist? Are the paths
> correct?
> 
> 
> ROb 
Yes, I checked for some of these, the .new exists in
the correct paths (checked in dos box too to see if
8.3
names are correct, and they are).

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From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Fri Apr 19 21:22:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 21:22:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sylvain Petreolle [mailto:spetreolle@yahoo.fr] 
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 2:15 PM

> Yes, I checked for some of these, the .new exists in
> the correct paths (checked in dos box too to see if
> 8.3
> names are correct, and they are).

Hmm. What happens if you supply a (say) 16Kb subset of the wininit.ini
file to windows ME - does it process it correctly?

Rob


From Shaddy.Baddah@myrealbox.com  Sat Apr 20 04:02:00 2002
From: Shaddy.Baddah@myrealbox.com (Shaddy Baddah)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 04:02:00 -0000
Subject: Extract.exe source code
Message-ID: <001201c1e85b$35b16250$0100a8c0@TOKYO>

Can someone assure me that the source for extract.exe is included in the
cygwin-xfree source code before I pull it down? I have the archived binary
distribution of cygwin-xfree 4.1.0, but I didn't hold on to the extract.exe
when I archived these. Now, unfortunately, the extract.exe available appears
to have been built to a new version of the cygwin.dll (as appears to have
the entire distribution. The way this is done doesn't seem to be tracked
very well), and as you can tell, I do not have broadband access to upgrade
my Cygwin distribution.

If someone has an extract.exe that will work with the a Cygwin distribution
for the following system, could they point me to where I could get it?


$ uname -a
CYGWIN_NT-5.0 TOKYO 1.1.8(0.34/3/2) 2001-01-31 10:08 i686 unknown


Thanks in advance,
Shaddy


From spetreolle@yahoo.fr  Sat Apr 20 05:51:00 2002
From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 05:51:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20020420125152.18819.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com>

 --- Robert Collins  a
??crit??: > 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sylvain Petreolle
> [mailto:spetreolle@yahoo.fr] 
> > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 2:15 PM
> 
> > Yes, I checked for some of these, the .new exists
> in
> > the correct paths (checked in dos box too to see
> if
> > 8.3
> > names are correct, and they are).
> 
> Hmm. What happens if you supply a (say) 16Kb subset
> of the wininit.ini
> file to windows ME - does it process it correctly?
> 
> Rob 

Hi Rob,

Renaming is done - but now renamed file haved 8.3
names with ~ and are unusable, I think, by X,
since names are incorrect - too bad.

Nom@SNOOP /etc/X11/app-defaults
$ ls
BITMAP    EDITRE~1  XCLOCK    XEDIT-~1  XLOGO-~1  XSM
BITMAP~1  VIEWRES   XCONSOLE  XFD       XMAG     
XTerm
CHOOSER   XCALC     XDITVIEW  XFONTSEL  XMAN     
XTerm-color
CLOCK-~1  XCALC-~1  XDITVI~1  XGC       XMESSAGE 
XVIDTUNE
EDITRES   XCLIPB~1  XEDIT     XLOGO     XMH



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From cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Sat Apr 20 09:45:00 2002
From: cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 09:45:00 -0000
Subject: Extract.exe source code
In-Reply-To: <001201c1e85b$35b16250$0100a8c0@TOKYO>
References: <001201c1e85b$35b16250$0100a8c0@TOKYO>
Message-ID: <20020420164520.GA6480@redhat.com>

On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 09:03:44PM +1000, Shaddy Baddah wrote:
>Can someone assure me that the source for extract.exe is included in the
>cygwin-xfree source code before I pull it down? I have the archived binary
>distribution of cygwin-xfree 4.1.0, but I didn't hold on to the extract.exe
>when I archived these. Now, unfortunately, the extract.exe available appears
>to have been built to a new version of the cygwin.dll (as appears to have
>the entire distribution. The way this is done doesn't seem to be tracked
>very well), and as you can tell, I do not have broadband access to upgrade
>my Cygwin distribution.

The cygwin DLL part of the distribution is 896850 bytes.  I suggest that you
start the install and go get a cup of coffee.  Even at modem speeds, it won't
take that long to download.

It's also very possible that extract.exe will work fine no matter what version
of the DLL you're using.  If it doesn't work, then it will be very obvious right
away -- you'll get a dialog box telling you something is wrong.

cgf

>If someone has an extract.exe that will work with the a Cygwin distribution
>for the following system, could they point me to where I could get it?
>
>
>$ uname -a
>CYGWIN_NT-5.0 TOKYO 1.1.8(0.34/3/2) 2001-01-31 10:08 i686 unknown
>
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Shaddy


From cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Sat Apr 20 09:48:00 2002
From: cgf-cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 09:48:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: <20020420040759.46533.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com>
References:  <20020420040759.46533.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020420164808.GA6535@redhat.com>

On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 06:07:58AM +0200, Sylvain Petreolle wrote:
>>It does, via the proscribed windows API to perform copy-on-reboot for
>>in-use files in win95.  Windows is meant to perform the copies before
>>loading the GUI, and then remove the ini entries after it does that.
>
>Already know this (I develop for Wine Emulator :)) But that's ok to
>review point after point to see a failure somewhere.

So, you are reporting this problem for an actual version of Windows,
then, i.e., you're not trying to run setup.exe on Wine, right?

cgf


From perryh@pluto.rain.com  Sat Apr 20 15:00:00 2002
From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 15:00:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
Message-ID: <10204202151.AA04453@pluto.rain.com>

Finally getting back to this after a very busy week.

> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/
> 
> The User's Guide tells you how to install Cygwin/XFree86, including the
> startup batch files and shell scripts.  I can guarantee that you will not be
> successful in installing Cygwin/XFree86 until you follow those instructions.

Got it.  It turns out I had muddled through steps 1-5, but not 6-8.

I have now extracted the startup scripts, and subsequently tried all
3 startup methods from Chapter 4, without success.  There seems to be
some kind of problem in getting the X server to start.

startxwin.bat in a command window says

    startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows 95/98/Me

then a window titled xterm appears.  After a few seconds a window
titled twm appears, then both close.  After a few more seconds this
appears in the command window, followed by the command prompt:

    /USR/X11R6/BIN/XSETROOT: unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0'

startxwin.sh in a bash window says

    X connection to 127.0.0.1:0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).

and the prompt appears, followed a few seconds later by this message:

    xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0

startx in a bash window says

    xinit: not found


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sat Apr 20 15:15:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 15:15:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
In-Reply-To: <10204202151.AA04453@pluto.rain.com>
Message-ID: 

Perry,

Take a look at /tmp/XWin.log... my suspicion is that you goofed on
installing the fonts.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Perry Hutchison
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 5:51 PM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: How do I run it?
>
>
> Finally getting back to this after a very busy week.
>
> > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/
> >
> > The User's Guide tells you how to install Cygwin/XFree86, including the
> > startup batch files and shell scripts.  I can guarantee that
> you will not be
> > successful in installing Cygwin/XFree86 until you follow those
> instructions.
>
> Got it.  It turns out I had muddled through steps 1-5, but not 6-8.
>
> I have now extracted the startup scripts, and subsequently tried all
> 3 startup methods from Chapter 4, without success.  There seems to be
> some kind of problem in getting the X server to start.
>
> startxwin.bat in a command window says
>
>     startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows 95/98/Me
>
> then a window titled xterm appears.  After a few seconds a window
> titled twm appears, then both close.  After a few more seconds this
> appears in the command window, followed by the command prompt:
>
>     /USR/X11R6/BIN/XSETROOT: unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0'
>
> startxwin.sh in a bash window says
>
>     X connection to 127.0.0.1:0.0 broken (explicit kill or server
> shutdown).
>
> and the prompt appears, followed a few seconds later by this message:
>
>     xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0
>
> startx in a bash window says
>
>     xinit: not found
>


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Sat Apr 20 15:30:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 15:30:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
References: 
Message-ID: <3CC1ECB5.9030706@ece.gatech.edu>



Robert Collins wrote:

> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Charles Wilson [mailto:cwilson@ece.gatech.edu] 
>>Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 12:59 PM
>>
> 
>>Also, setup must do the following (even without new 'views' 
>>and whatnot)
>>
> 
> Setup should already do that, why not make a test setup.ini and see what
> happens :]. It's all data driven and there is no requirement for -src
> packages to follow the same name as the base.

Whaddaya know.  It works.  point setup.exe here:

http://www.neuro.gatech.edu/users/cwilson/cygutils/testing/

There are 3 packages, bob, bobx, and boby.  only bob has a -src package, 
the other two have source: lines that explicitly specify bob's source 
package.

It seems to work perfectly -- with only a single niggle:

if you select the source for more than one of [bob|bobx|boby], then it 
is downloaded only once (good) but is unpacked three times.  This isn't 
a terrible thing, but it is a waste of effort....

If you play around with this, you can clean up by uninstalling the 
"binary" packages, and deleting the file /usr/src/bob.file.src.  (Or, 
you can delete /bob.file, /bobx.file, /boby.file, and 
/usr/src/bob.file.src, and remove the bob, bobx, and boby entries from 
/etc/setup/installed.db)

So, except for the niggle above, if upset were modified to allow the 
external-src: keyword, then multiple-binary-packages from one -src 
package would work!  (and the niggle isn't a show stopper).

--Chuck



From cgf@redhat.com  Sat Apr 20 15:57:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 15:57:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <20020410015334.GO23551@redhat.com>
References:  <3CB396A5.1070803@znark.com> <20020410015334.GO23551@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20020420225701.GA10168@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:53:34PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 06:34:29PM -0700, Ian Burrell wrote:
>>Is the script for building setup.ini files from a directory hierarchy 
>>available anywhere? I want to setup a test install directory with the 
>>full hierarchy and setup.hint files.
>>
>>Also, I ran into a problem with the xfree-fonts-100dpi and 
>>xfree-fonts-75dpi packages. With a hand-generated setup.ini, they 
>>weren't being displayed. This might be because the last component starts 
>>with a number and something is confused about where the version starts. 
>
>Yes, a -75dpi part of a tar file will look like a version number.
>
>Can you use an underscore instead?

Btw, the new version of 'upset' does the right thing with things like this.
If you have a directory called 'XFree86-fonts-100dpi' it will no longer
assume that 100dpi is part of the version string.  It just uses the directory
name as a prefix for the .tar.bz2 files.

cgf


From perryh@pluto.rain.com  Sat Apr 20 16:12:00 2002
From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 16:12:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
Message-ID: <10204202312.AA05219@pluto.rain.com>

> Take a look at /tmp/XWin.log... my suspicion is that you goofed on
> installing the fonts.

No font complaints, but it evidently won't run with the "standard VGA"
display driver.  /tmp/XWin.log says:

winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 640 h 480
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw not installed
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow GDI DIB
winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI () - Using Windows display depth of 1 bits per pixel
winScreenInit () - Unsupported display depth: 1
Change your Windows display depth to 15, 16, 24, or 32 bits per pixel.
winScreenInit () - Supported depths: 8080c080

Fatal server error:
Couldn't add screen 0


but the only choices available in display properties are 16-color
(selected) and monochrome.  Time to drag out the Win 95 CD and see
what might work with a Trident TGUI9440-3


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sat Apr 20 16:59:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 16:59:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
In-Reply-To: <10204202312.AA05219@pluto.rain.com>
Message-ID: 

Perry,


I don't know that the Windows 95 CD will be of help, but I found Trident's
page for the card:
http://www.tridentmicro.com/drivers/download/tgui9440.html

The Windows 95 driver is here:
http://www.tridentmicro.com/drivers/download/tgui_tvga/w95-9440.exe

Hope that helps.  Let me know if this fixes the problem.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Perry Hutchison [mailto:perryh@pluto.rain.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 7:12 PM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: How do I run it?
>
>
> > Take a look at /tmp/XWin.log... my suspicion is that you goofed on
> > installing the fonts.
>
> No font complaints, but it evidently won't run with the "standard VGA"
> display driver.  /tmp/XWin.log says:
>
> winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 640 h 480
> _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows 95/98/Me
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw not installed
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow GDI DIB
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI () - Using Windows display depth of 1
> bits per pixel
> winScreenInit () - Unsupported display depth: 1
> Change your Windows display depth to 15, 16, 24, or 32 bits per pixel.
> winScreenInit () - Supported depths: 8080c080
>
> Fatal server error:
> Couldn't add screen 0
>
>
> but the only choices available in display properties are 16-color
> (selected) and monochrome.  Time to drag out the Win 95 CD and see
> what might work with a Trident TGUI9440-3
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sat Apr 20 17:01:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 17:01:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: <20020420225701.GA10168@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Chris,

> Btw, the new version of 'upset' does the right thing with things
> like this.
> If you have a directory called 'XFree86-fonts-100dpi' it will no longer
> assume that 100dpi is part of the version string.  It just uses
> the directory
> name as a prefix for the .tar.bz2 files.

That's good for completeness.  But I am a stickler for tradition, so I stuck
with the old -f100 package name in that case. :)

Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sat Apr 20 18:24:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 18:24:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: <20020420125152.18819.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

Robert,

> > Hmm. What happens if you supply a (say) 16Kb subset
> > of the wininit.ini
> > file to windows ME - does it process it correctly?
> >
> > Rob
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> Renaming is done - but now renamed file haved 8.3
> names with ~ and are unusable, I think, by X,
> since names are incorrect - too bad.


What's your prognosis on this?  Is this a problem that is specific to
Sylvain's machine or is this going to be a problem because Cygwin/XFree86
has over 4000 files in the font directories?

Is there some limit to the allowed size of wininit.ini, or did you suggest
testing a subset simply to see if one of the commands in the latter part of
the file was invalid?

Basically: do we need to pull the Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe release for now,
or can I go on with making changes to the web page, etc to announce the
release?

Harold


From cgf@redhat.com  Sat Apr 20 19:56:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 19:56:00 -0000
Subject: info: single install xfree86 + minimal cygwin?
In-Reply-To: 
References: <20020420225701.GA10168@redhat.com> 
Message-ID: <20020421025555.GD9745@redhat.com>

On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 08:01:12PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>>Btw, the new version of 'upset' does the right thing with things like
>>this.  If you have a directory called 'XFree86-fonts-100dpi' it will no
>>longer assume that 100dpi is part of the version string.  It just uses
>>the directory name as a prefix for the .tar.bz2 files.
>
>That's good for completeness.  But I am a stickler for tradition, so I
>stuck with the old -f100 package name in that case.  :)

That's fine.  I was just mentioning this for the archives.  I think that
the new 'upset' behavior allows a lot more flexibility in naming.

cgf


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Sat Apr 20 19:59:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 19:59:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 11:25 AM
> To: Sylvain Petreolle; Robert Collins; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
> 
> 
> Robert,
> 
> > > Hmm. What happens if you supply a (say) 16Kb subset
> > > of the wininit.ini
> > > file to windows ME - does it process it correctly?
> > >
> > > Rob
> >
> > Hi Rob,
> >
> > Renaming is done - but now renamed file haved 8.3
> > names with ~ and are unusable, I think, by X,
> > since names are incorrect - too bad.
> 
> 
> What's your prognosis on this?  Is this a problem that is 
> specific to Sylvain's machine or is this going to be a 
> problem because Cygwin/XFree86 has over 4000 files in the 
> font directories?

I haven't come to a root cause yet.
 
> Is there some limit to the allowed size of wininit.ini, or 
> did you suggest testing a subset simply to see if one of the 
> commands in the latter part of the file was invalid?

The wininit.ini size seems to be a problem. I'm not sure how to solve
that though - we are using the windows API to create it, but somehow I
don't think MS will fix it :[.
 
> Basically: do we need to pull the Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe 
> release for now, or can I go on with making changes to the 
> web page, etc to announce the release?

No need to pull it IMO.

Rob


From cgf@redhat.com  Sat Apr 20 20:14:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 20:14:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020421031430.GE9745@redhat.com>

On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 12:59:26PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
>> What's your prognosis on this?  Is this a problem that is 
>> specific to Sylvain's machine or is this going to be a 
>> problem because Cygwin/XFree86 has over 4000 files in the 
>> font directories?
>
>I haven't come to a root cause yet.

Have you actually duplicated the problem, Robert?

Maybe I've missed something but I don't think I've seen an indication
that this isn't just a Wine problem.

cgf 


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Sat Apr 20 20:15:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 20:15:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:cgf@redhat.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 1:15 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 12:59:26PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> >> What's your prognosis on this?  Is this a problem that is
> >> specific to Sylvain's machine or is this going to be a 
> >> problem because Cygwin/XFree86 has over 4000 files in the 
> >> font directories?
> >
> >I haven't come to a root cause yet.
> 
> Have you actually duplicated the problem, Robert?
> 
> Maybe I've missed something but I don't think I've seen an 
> indication that this isn't just a Wine problem.

The user reported the problem as being under Windows ME.

Rob


From perryh@pluto.rain.com  Sat Apr 20 22:00:00 2002
From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 22:00:00 -0000
Subject: How do I run it?
Message-ID: <10204210458.AA07123@pluto.rain.com>

> I don't know that the Windows 95 CD will be of help, but
> I found Trident's page for the card:
> http://www.tridentmicro.com/drivers/download/tgui9440.html
> 
> The Windows 95 driver is here:
> http://www.tridentmicro.com/drivers/download/tgui_tvga/w95-9440.exe
> 
> Hope that helps.  Let me know if this fixes the problem.

Yes, that fixes it.  The "Trident SVGA" driver on the original Windows
95 (OSR2) CD works after a fashion, but the version 4.something from
this download is considerably better.  I was amazed to discover that
the ancient unknown-origin monitor I've been using handles 1024x768
with no trouble :)

I've still got some xauth issues to work through when connecting
from other hosts, but that's generic X rather than CygWin/XFree.

Now to track down a CygWin port of fvwm2 ...


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Sat Apr 20 22:24:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 22:24:00 -0000
Subject: open-file replacements with win9x
Message-ID: 

We've got a problem folks:

>From MSDN

===
To rename or delete a file on Windows 95/98/Me 

Check for the existence of the WININIT.INI file in the Windows
directory. 
If WININIT.INI exists, open it and add new entries to the existing
[rename] section. If the file does not exist, create the file and create
a [rename] section. 
Add lines of the following format to the [rename] section: 
DestinationFileName=SourceFileName
Both DestinationFileName and SourceFileName must be short file names. To
delete a file, use NUL as the value for DestinationFileName. 
===

Note that both files must be shortnames. I had _assumed_ that the OS
would preserve the attached long file name. But (as the list records
show)... I had not been able to test it to see that this was indeed the
behaviour we would get.

If anyone with a 16 bit windows box out there has the time to do some
test cases and see if my assumption was wrong, or if the current
reported case was a fluke that went wrong, that would be great.

As to _why_ 600 odd files needed replacing, I've yet to look closely at
that aspect.

Rob


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Sat Apr 20 23:47:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 23:47:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Wilson [mailto:cwilson@ece.gatech.edu] 
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 8:33 AM

>if you select the source for more than one of [bob|bobx|boby], then it 
>is downloaded only once (good) but is unpacked three times.  This isn't

>a terrible thing, but it is a waste of effort....

This won't change anytime soon. Long term we'll have the concept of a
source package - as opposed to a src attribute of an existing package.
This will require setup.ini changes to represent properly, so I want all
the kinks out first...

Rob


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Sun Apr 21 00:06:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 00:06:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe packages available for comments and testing
References: 
Message-ID: <3CC26570.6090302@ece.gatech.edu>

Robert Collins wrote:

> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Charles Wilson [mailto:cwilson@ece.gatech.edu] 
>>Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 8:33 AM
>>
> 
>>if you select the source for more than one of [bob|bobx|boby], then it 
>>is downloaded only once (good) but is unpacked three times.  This isn't
>>
> 
>>a terrible thing, but it is a waste of effort....
>>
> 
> This won't change anytime soon. Long term we'll have the concept of a
> source package - as opposed to a src attribute of an existing package.
> This will require setup.ini changes to represent properly, so I want all
> the kinks out first...


Like I said, NOT a showstopper.  you ONLY see this behavior if you click 
the src checkbox for multiple packages that all share the same source. 
It's only downloaded once.  When setup is done, you have the source. 
Behind the scenes, that source package gets installed multiple times. 
Big deal.

IMO, if upset gets the ability to do the right thing with an 
'external-src:' directive in setup.hint, then everything necessary for 
multiple-bin/single-src packages would be in place.

--Chuck


--Chuck



From spetreolle@yahoo.fr  Sun Apr 21 10:41:00 2002
From: spetreolle@yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?=)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 10:41:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: <20020420164808.GA6535@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <20020421174147.26702.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com>

> >Already know this (I develop for Wine Emulator :))
> But that's ok to
> >review point after point to see a failure
> somewhere.
> 
> So, you are reporting this problem for an actual
> version of Windows,
> then, i.e., you're not trying to run setup.exe on
> Wine, right?
> 
> cgf
No, it's a real Windows :)
I'm having these problems on my own workstation.
I'm afraid kde-cygwin 2.2.1-alpha has no setup.ini at
this time, this would be great :=).


Off-topic :

Think that Wine doesn't need wininit to function :
every file can be overwritten even if in use
and wininit has a replacement because it doesn't
function (it reports that it cannot be launched from 
Windows)

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From goldin+@pitt.edu  Sun Apr 21 11:00:00 2002
From: goldin+@pitt.edu (Ilya Goldin)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 11:00:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
References: <20020420125152.18819.qmail@web10105.mail.yahoo.com> 
Message-ID: 

"Harold Hunt"  wrote in message
news:NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCCECFCNAA.huntharo@msu.edu...
> Basically: do we need to pull the Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe release for
now,
> or can I go on with making changes to the web page, etc to announce the
> release?


Personal experience: I installed Xfree via the new setup.exe routine over an
existing 4.2.0 installation. At the time, I was running rxvt and openssh,
but not running Xfree. Cygwin warned me I'd have to restart to replace
files.

When I restarted, Win2K (which is what I'm running here, with all the latest
patches), got stuck at the end of its second start-up screen (the first one
is text-mode, the second one has the pretty W2K logo and a blue progress
indicator). I could see my HD light blinking, and the PC was obviously doing
something, but it remained "stuck" on this screen for several minutes. This
repeated after a hard reset (couldn't do a soft one). Ultimately, I had to
boot into the F8-on-startup screen, and go with "last known good config".
Only that got me back into W2K. (I was getting pretty worried by this time!)

Having read the list since, I surmise that the WININIT.INI routine was
replacing files during that start-up screen delay, but it took so
ridiculously long (on a Pentium II 400, w/ 256 RAM), that I had to do
several hard restarts to get anywhere, and ended up aborting that procedure
anyway. (After which I deleted my entire Cygwin setup and reinstalled from
scratch.)

Notes from the field,
ig
P.S. I guess the other burning question is why did setup.exe decide that it
couldn't overwrite the Xfree files even though Xfree wasn't in use?

-- Ilya Goldin 





From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Apr 21 12:15:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 12:15:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Ilya,

Very interesting.

On Windows NT 3.1, 4.0, Windows 2000, and (I believe) Windows XP you don't
use the wininit.ini approach.  There is a new function (only about 8 years
old now) called MoveFileEx that can be passed the flag
MOVEFILE_DELAY_UNTIL_REBOOT which stores a list of files to be moved upon
reboot in the registry at:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session
Manager\PendingFileRenameOperations


Robert may want to comment on whether this method is used or not in
setup.exe.

In any case the list of files to move could contain several thousand entries
if the XFree86 fonts packages are to be replaced upon reboot.  This would
take several minutes to move.  It was probably not a good thing that you
aborted this process... my guess is that it would have completed
successfully in ten to twenty minutes :)

> P.S. I guess the other burning question is why did setup.exe
> decide that it
> couldn't overwrite the Xfree files even though Xfree wasn't in use?

Think about your programmatic options here.  You are trying to determine if
the files in the XFree86 packages are being used, so you can:

1) Assume that if cygwin1.dll is being used then *all* packages are being
used.  When cygwin1.dll is not being used this allows you to install each
file with a single function call (i.e. MoveFile).  However, when cygwin1.dll
is being used you have to either use wininit.ini or use MoveFileEx with
MOVEFILE_DELAY_UNTIL_REBOOT for every single file.

2) Attempt to move each file individually; upon failure, add the file to the
wininit.ini list or call MoveFileEx with MOVEFILE_DELAY_UNTIL_REBOOT.
You've got a problem here: what if a program opens a file, reads part of it,
closes the file, then opens it again later and resumes reading where it left
off?  You're going to get into trouble if you replace such a file out from
under a running process.  On the other hand, Linux seems to think that this
is allowable, as Linux lets you overwrite any file, regardless of whether it
is being used.  The main problem with this method is that for every file
that is being used (could be thousands) you have to make two functions calls
instead of just one (one to find out it is being used, one to add it to the
list of files to replace upon reboot).


I'm guessing that Cygwin's setup.exe uses a method similar to the method I
described in (1), but I'll wait for Robert to comment on this.  Perhaps
Cygwin's setup.exe should consider using a method similar to (2), if it
doesn't already.

In related news: I think I'm going to hold off on making any wide-spread
announcements about Cygwin/XFree86 being available via setup.exe.  I'm not
comfortable with the installation process causing several minute delays in
starting the PC and in the possibility of the wininit.ini becoming too large
or not preserving long filenames.


Harold


> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Ilya Goldin
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 1:52 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
>
>
> "Harold Hunt"  wrote in message
> news:NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCCECFCNAA.huntharo@msu.edu...
> > Basically: do we need to pull the Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe release for
> now,
> > or can I go on with making changes to the web page, etc to announce the
> > release?
>
>
> Personal experience: I installed Xfree via the new setup.exe
> routine over an
> existing 4.2.0 installation. At the time, I was running rxvt and openssh,
> but not running Xfree. Cygwin warned me I'd have to restart to replace
> files.
>
> When I restarted, Win2K (which is what I'm running here, with all
> the latest
> patches), got stuck at the end of its second start-up screen (the
> first one
> is text-mode, the second one has the pretty W2K logo and a blue progress
> indicator). I could see my HD light blinking, and the PC was
> obviously doing
> something, but it remained "stuck" on this screen for several
> minutes. This
> repeated after a hard reset (couldn't do a soft one). Ultimately, I had to
> boot into the F8-on-startup screen, and go with "last known good config".
> Only that got me back into W2K. (I was getting pretty worried by
> this time!)
>
> Having read the list since, I surmise that the WININIT.INI routine was
> replacing files during that start-up screen delay, but it took so
> ridiculously long (on a Pentium II 400, w/ 256 RAM), that I had to do
> several hard restarts to get anywhere, and ended up aborting that
> procedure
> anyway. (After which I deleted my entire Cygwin setup and reinstalled from
> scratch.)
>
> Notes from the field,
> ig
> P.S. I guess the other burning question is why did setup.exe
> decide that it
> couldn't overwrite the Xfree files even though Xfree wasn't in use?
>
> -- Ilya Goldin 
>
>
>
>


From cgf@redhat.com  Sun Apr 21 14:27:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 14:27:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
Message-ID: <20020421212726.GD1121@redhat.com>

On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 03:15:05PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>In related news: I think I'm going to hold off on making any wide-spread
>announcements about Cygwin/XFree86 being available via setup.exe.  I'm not
>comfortable with the installation process causing several minute delays in
>starting the PC and in the possibility of the wininit.ini becoming too large
>or not preserving long filenames.

FWIW, I agree.  We don't want a flood of requests from people reporting
problems.

cgf


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Sun Apr 21 16:23:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 16:23:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ilya Goldin [mailto:goldin+@pitt.edu] 
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 3:52 AM

> When I restarted, Win2K (which is what I'm running here, with 
> all the latest patches), got stuck at the end of its second 
...

> Having read the list since, I surmise that the WININIT.INI 

There is no WININIT.INI on NT. There is an equivalent on-boot process
however.

> P.S. I guess the other burning question is why did setup.exe 
> decide that it couldn't overwrite the Xfree files even though 
> Xfree wasn't in use?

Send in your /var/logs/setup.log.full and /var/logs/setup.log and I'll
see what I can tell you.

Rob


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Sun Apr 21 16:29:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 16:29:00 -0000
Subject: xfree86 install makes wininit not working
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 5:15 AM

> Robert may want to comment on whether this method is used or 
> not in setup.exe.

It is. Long file names are used there as well. Works like a dream.
 
> 2) Attempt to move each file individually; upon failure, add 

This is what we do. If an app is performing open-read-close on lots of
small files and we collide, well uhmm, oops.
 
> I'm guessing that Cygwin's setup.exe uses a method similar to 
> the method I described in (1), but I'll wait for Robert to 
> comment on this.  Perhaps Cygwin's setup.exe should consider 
> using a method similar to (2), if it doesn't already.
> 
> In related news: I think I'm going to hold off on making any 
> wide-spread announcements about Cygwin/XFree86 being 
> available via setup.exe.  I'm not comfortable with the 
> installation process causing several minute delays in 
> starting the PC and in the possibility of the wininit.ini 
> becoming too large or not preserving long filenames.

Ok. I'm not sure what we can do about it on win9x though. Maybe we just
want to fail noisily?

Rob


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 22 19:36:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 19:36:00 -0000
Subject: KDE no icons: The problem only happens in 32 bit color mode and more information
Message-ID: 

THE REASON I NEED HELP FROM KDE FOLKS IS THAT THIS PROBLEM DID NOT HAPPEN
WITH KDE 2.X AND CYGWIN/XFREE86


I need someone that is familiar with how the icons are displayed in KDE to
tell me why our pixmap and visual formats were ok with KDE 2.X but not with
KDE 3.0.


Selected 'xdypinfo' output follows at the bottom of the email for
Cygwin/XFree86 and a comparison server running in 32 bit mode.


The problem of no icons being display only happens in 32 bit color mode and
it appears to be due to the way that our visual or pixmaps are setup.

It seems that there is a problem in either or both of:

1) The way the Cygwin/XFree86 pixmap formats are defined, specifically the
fact that we have both depth 24, bits_per_pixel 24 pixmap and a depth 32,
bits_per_pixel 32 pixmaps.  This is compared to XVisions's depth 24,
bits_per_pixel 32 pixmap.

2) The fact that our visual has depth '32 planes' at 32 bits per pixel
compared to XVision's '24 planes' at 32 bits per pixel.


I have tried altering our pixmap formats to be similar to XVision's with no
success.  I tried all combinations of 24 and 32 bits for the two values,
just to be thorough.  Our pixmap definitions are right at the top of
http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/InitOutput.c

I have tried altering our call to miSetVisualTypesAndMasks in
http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winshadddnl.c
to pass '24' as the depth when the screen depth is actually 32.

I have also passed 24 to fbSetupScreen and fbFinishScreenInit in our
winFinishScreenInitFB function in
http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/winscrinit.c
to no avail.


The general result of any of these modifications is that the server crashes
on startup or the visual type hasn't actually changed.


That's all for now,

Harold Hunt
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/





Cygwin/XFree86 running at 32 bits per pixel:
============================================
bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    32, LSBFirst, 32
image byte order:    LSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats:    7
supported pixmap formats:
     depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
     depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
     depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
     depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
     depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
     depth 24, bits_per_pixel 24, scanline_pad 32
     depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
   visual:
     visual id:    0x22
     class:    TrueColor
     depth:    32 planes
     available colormap entries:    2048 per subfield
     red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
     significant bits in color specification:    8 bits


XVision running at 32 bits per pixel:
=====================================
bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    8, MSBFirst, 16
image byte order:    MSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats:    2
supported pixmap formats:
     depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 16
     depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
   visual:
     visual id:    0x20
     class:    TrueColor
     depth:    24 planes
     available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
     red, green, blue masks:    0xff, 0xff00, 0xff0000
     significant bits in color specification:    8 bits


From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Mon Apr 22 21:01:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 21:01:00 -0000
Subject: New xfree install: twm doesn't work
Message-ID: 

I just installed xfree with the new setup program, and I foung that twm
doesn't work - it complains that some lib dll file is missing. Has
anyone else had problems with twm with the new install?

Thanks for any help
Lars.

--
Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 22 21:07:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 21:07:00 -0000
Subject: New xfree install: twm doesn't work
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Lars,

Did you install overtop of you existing Cygwin/XFree86 installation, or did
you move /usr/X11R6 and /etc/X11 out of the way before installing via
setup.exe?

For the record, twm worked fine during my testing of the setup.exe
installation method.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:51 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: New xfree install: twm doesn't work
>
>
> I just installed xfree with the new setup program, and I foung that twm
> doesn't work - it complains that some lib dll file is missing. Has
> anyone else had problems with twm with the new install?
>
> Thanks for any help
> Lars.
>
> --
> Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
>


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Tue Apr 23 04:37:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 04:37:00 -0000
Subject: New xfree install: twm doesn't work
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Lars Jensen wrote:

> I just installed xfree with the new setup program, and I foung that twm
> doesn't work - it complains that some lib dll file is missing. Has
> anyone else had problems with twm with the new install?

Which dll?

bye
	ago
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From jdrash@eesus.jnj.com  Tue Apr 23 12:00:00 2002
From: jdrash@eesus.jnj.com (jdrash)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 12:00:00 -0000
Subject: Kudos to all for the new XFree86 packages
Message-ID: 

You all have done a tremendous job in 1) making a Windows X-Windows server
with real performance and 2) now installable via the Cygwin set program!!

Let me extend a Laurel and Hardy handshake (apologies to Mel Brooks) to
all involved

jim drash



From jdrash@eesus.jnj.com  Tue Apr 23 12:05:00 2002
From: jdrash@eesus.jnj.com (jdrash)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 12:05:00 -0000
Subject: Kudos message
Message-ID: 

smal typo: "set program" should be "setup program".  Sorry, brain moves
quicker than fingers (or maybe the other way 'round)



From thesnake1978@yahoo.com  Tue Apr 23 21:49:00 2002
From: thesnake1978@yahoo.com (Peter None)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 21:49:00 -0000
Subject: Error Installing imlib 1.9.14
Message-ID: <20020424044950.25700.qmail@web14309.mail.yahoo.com>

Whilst installing this package, I get this configure
error: *** TIFF Library not found ***
I've installed ImageMagick-5.4.4 which seems to have
gone fine.
Below is the contents of the configure log.

Any help finding a solution would be fantastic.

Thank You.

----------------------

This file contains any messages produced by compilers
while
running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes
a mistake.

configure:750: checking for a BSD compatible install
configure:803: checking whether build environment is
sane
configure:860: checking whether make sets ${MAKE}
configure:906: checking for working aclocal
configure:919: checking for working autoconf
configure:932: checking for working automake
configure:945: checking for working autoheader
configure:958: checking for working makeinfo
configure:974: checking for gcc
configure:1087: checking whether the C compiler (gcc
-O2 ) works
configure:1103: gcc -o conftest -O2   conftest.c  1>&5
configure:1129: checking whether the C compiler (gcc
-O2 ) is a cross-compiler
configure:1134: checking whether we are using GNU C
configure:1162: checking whether gcc accepts -g
configure:1205: checking for Cygwin environment
configure:1238: checking for mingw32 environment
configure:1267: checking how to run the C preprocessor
configure:1422: checking host system type
configure:1443: checking build system type
configure:1472: checking for ld used by GCC
configure:1540: checking if the linker
(/usr/i686-pc-cygwin/bin/ld.exe) is GNU ld
configure:1557: checking for
/usr/i686-pc-cygwin/bin/ld.exe option to reload object
files
configure:1569: checking for BSD-compatible nm
configure:1607: checking whether ln -s works
configure:1628: checking how to recognise dependant
libraries
configure:1805: checking for object suffix
configure:1831: checking for executable suffix
configure:1872: checking command to parse /bin/nm -B
output
configure:2055: checking for dlfcn.h
configure:2233: checking for ranlib
configure:2300: checking for strip
configure:2543: checking for objdir
configure:2570: checking for gcc option to produce PIC
configure:2722: checking if gcc PIC flag  -DDLL_EXPORT
works
configure:2788: checking if gcc static flag -static
works
configure:2830: checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o
configure:2878: checking if gcc supports -c -o file.lo
configure:2946: checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti
-fno-exceptions
configure:2959: gcc -c -O2 -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions
-c conftest.c  conftest.c 1>&5
configure:2986: checking whether the linker
(/usr/i686-pc-cygwin/bin/ld.exe) supports shared
libraries
configure:3671: checking how to hardcode library paths
into programs
configure:3699: checking whether stripping libraries
is possible
configure:3713: checking dynamic linker
characteristics
configure:4114: checking if libtool supports shared
libraries
configure:4118: checking whether to build shared
libraries
configure:4141: checking whether to build static
libraries
configure:5280: checking whether to enable
maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles
configure:5362: checking for gtk-config
configure:5397: checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.1
configure:5498: gcc -o conftest.exe -O2
-I/opt/gnome/include/gtk-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/include/glib-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include  
conftest.c -L/opt/gnome/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk
-lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lintl -lXext -lX11  1>&5
Warning: resolving _gtk_major_version by linking to
__imp__gtk_major_version (auto-import)
Warning: resolving _gtk_minor_version by linking to
__imp__gtk_minor_version (auto-import)
Warning: resolving _gtk_micro_version by linking to
__imp__gtk_micro_version (auto-import)
configure:5585: checking whether to build gmodulized
imlib
configure:5629: gcc -o conftest.exe -O2
-I/opt/gnome/include/glib-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/lib/glib/include   conftest.c 
-L/opt/gnome/lib -lgmodule -lglib 1>&5
configure:5686: checking for ANSI C header files
configure:5794: checking for dirent.h that defines DIR
configure:5832: checking for opendir in -ldir
configure:5851: gcc -o conftest.exe -O2   conftest.c
-ldir   1>&5
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/2.95.3-5/../../../../i686-pc-cygwin/bin/ld:
cannot find -ldir
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 5840 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"
/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an
error.  */
/* We use char because int might match the return type
of a gcc2
    builtin and then its argument prototype would
still apply.  */
char opendir();

int main() {
opendir()
; return 0; }
configure:5915: checking for sys/wait.h that is
POSIX.1 compatible
configure:5936: gcc -c -O2  conftest.c 1>&5
configure:5958: checking return type of signal
handlers
configure:6002: checking for vsnprintf
configure:6057: checking for snprintf
configure:6112: checking for basename
configure:6140: gcc -o conftest.exe -O2   conftest.c 
1>&5
/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/TEMP/cccq1jJN.o(.text+0xc):conftest.c:
undefined reference to `basename'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 6117 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"
/* System header to define __stub macros and hopefully
few prototypes,
    which can conflict with char basename(); below. 
*/
#include 
/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an
error.  */
/* We use char because int might match the return type
of a gcc2
    builtin and then its argument prototype would
still apply.  */
char basename();

int main() {

/* The GNU C library defines this for functions which
it implements
    to always fail with ENOSYS.  Some functions are
actually named
    something starting with __ and the normal name is
an alias.  */
#if defined (__stub_basename) || defined
(__stub___basename)
choke me
#else
basename();
#endif

; return 0; }
configure:6168: checking for blumfrub
configure:6196: gcc -o conftest.exe -O2   conftest.c 
1>&5
/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/TEMP/cch8amCU.o(.text+0xc):conftest.c:
undefined reference to `blumfrub'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 6173 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"
/* System header to define __stub macros and hopefully
few prototypes,
    which can conflict with char blumfrub(); below. 
*/
#include 
/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an
error.  */
/* We use char because int might match the return type
of a gcc2
    builtin and then its argument prototype would
still apply.  */
char blumfrub();

int main() {

/* The GNU C library defines this for functions which
it implements
    to always fail with ENOSYS.  Some functions are
actually named
    something starting with __ and the normal name is
an alias.  */
#if defined (__stub_blumfrub) || defined
(__stub___blumfrub)
choke me
#else
blumfrub();
#endif

; return 0; }
configure:6223: checking for buckets_of_erogenous_nym
configure:6251: gcc -o conftest.exe -O2   conftest.c 
1>&5
/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/TEMP/ccaxLFkm.o(.text+0xc):conftest.c:
undefined reference to `buckets_of_erogenous_nym'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 6228 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"
/* System header to define __stub macros and hopefully
few prototypes,
    which can conflict with char
buckets_of_erogenous_nym(); below.  */
#include 
/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an
error.  */
/* We use char because int might match the return type
of a gcc2
    builtin and then its argument prototype would
still apply.  */
char buckets_of_erogenous_nym();

int main() {

/* The GNU C library defines this for functions which
it implements
    to always fail with ENOSYS.  Some functions are
actually named
    something starting with __ and the normal name is
an alias.  */
#if defined (__stub_buckets_of_erogenous_nym) ||
defined (__stub___buckets_of_erogenous_nym)
choke me
#else
buckets_of_erogenous_nym();
#endif

; return 0; }
configure:6278: checking for buttox
configure:6306: gcc -o conftest.exe -O2   conftest.c 
1>&5
/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/TEMP/ccRDvvml.o(.text+0xc):conftest.c:
undefined reference to `buttox'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 6283 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"
/* System header to define __stub macros and hopefully
few prototypes,
    which can conflict with char buttox(); below.  */
#include 
/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an
error.  */
/* We use char because int might match the return type
of a gcc2
    builtin and then its argument prototype would
still apply.  */
char buttox();

int main() {

/* The GNU C library defines this for functions which
it implements
    to always fail with ENOSYS.  Some functions are
actually named
    something starting with __ and the normal name is
an alias.  */
#if defined (__stub_buttox) || defined
(__stub___buttox)
choke me
#else
buttox();
#endif

; return 0; }
configure:6333: checking for stdarg.h
configure:6370: checking for string.h
configure:6403: checking for strings.h
configure:6440: checking for X
configure:6754: checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet
configure:6795: checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet_stub
configure:6843: checking for gethostbyname
configure:6941: checking for connect
configure:7033: checking for remove
configure:7125: checking for shmat
configure:7174: checking for shmat in -lipc
configure:7226: checking for IceConnectionNumber in
-lICE
configure:7277: checking for XShmAttach in -lXext
configure:7316: checking for XShmAttach in -lXextSam
configure:7377: checking for sys/ipc.h
configure:7414: checking for sys/shm.h
configure:7513: checking X11/extensions/XShm.h
configure:7533: checking for jpeg_destroy_decompress
in -ljpeg
configure:7552: gcc -o conftest.exe -O2 
-I/opt/gnome/include/gtk-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/include/glib-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include
-I${prefix}/include -I/opt/gnome/include  conftest.c
-ljpeg -L/opt/gnome/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk
-lgmodule -lglib -lintl -lXext -lX11  1>&5
configure:7576: checking for jpeglib.h
configure:7586: gcc -E  -I/opt/gnome/include/gtk-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/include/glib-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include
-I${prefix}/include -I/opt/gnome/include conftest.c
>/dev/null 2>conftest.out
configure:7612: checking for TIFFReadScanline in
-ltiff
configure:7631: gcc -o conftest.exe -O2 
-I/opt/gnome/include/gtk-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/include/glib-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include
-I${prefix}/include -I/opt/gnome/include  conftest.c
-ltiff -L/opt/gnome/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk
-lgmodule -lglib -lintl -lXext -lX11  1>&5
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/2.95.3-5/../../../../i686-pc-cygwin/bin/ld:
cannot find -ltiff
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 7620 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"
/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an
error.  */
/* We use char because int might match the return type
of a gcc2
    builtin and then its argument prototype would
still apply.  */
char TIFFReadScanline();

int main() {
TIFFReadScanline()
; return 0; }
configure:7687: checking for TIFFWriteScanline in
-ltiff
configure:7706: gcc -o conftest.exe -O2 
-I/opt/gnome/include/gtk-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/include/glib-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include
-I${prefix}/include -I/opt/gnome/include  conftest.c
-ltiff -ljpeg -lz -L/opt/gnome/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib
-lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lintl -lXext -lX11  1>&5
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/2.95.3-5/../../../../i686-pc-cygwin/bin/ld:
cannot find -ltiff
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 7695 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"
/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an
error.  */
/* We use char because int might match the return type
of a gcc2
    builtin and then its argument prototype would
still apply.  */
char TIFFWriteScanline();

int main() {
TIFFWriteScanline()
; return 0; }
configure:7762: checking for TIFFFlushData in -ltiff34
configure:7781: gcc -o conftest.exe -O2 
-I/opt/gnome/include/gtk-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/include/glib-1.2
-I/opt/gnome/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include
-I${prefix}/include -I/opt/gnome/include  conftest.c
-ltiff34 -ljpeg -lz -L/opt/gnome/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib
-lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lglib -lintl -lXext -lX11  1>&5
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/2.95.3-5/../../../../i686-pc-cygwin/bin/ld:
cannot find -ltiff34
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 7770 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h"
/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an
error.  */
/* We use char because int might match the return type
of a gcc2
    builtin and then its argument prototype would
still apply.  */
char TIFFFlushData();

int main() {
TIFFFlushData()
; return 0; }


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From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr 23 23:55:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 23:55:00 -0000
Subject: Error Installing imlib 1.9.14
In-Reply-To: <20020424044950.25700.qmail@web14309.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20020424044950.25700.qmail@web14309.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020424065449.GA20557@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 09:49:50PM -0700, Peter None wrote:
>Whilst installing this package, I get this configure
>error: *** TIFF Library not found ***
>I've installed ImageMagick-5.4.4 which seems to have
>gone fine.
>Below is the contents of the configure log.
>
>Any help finding a solution would be fantastic.

http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-grep.cgi?grep=libtiff

cgf


From sid@bms.umist.ac.uk  Wed Apr 24 07:18:00 2002
From: sid@bms.umist.ac.uk (Khushwant Sidhu)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:18:00 -0000
Subject: bash ...
Message-ID: <3CC6BE90.944FB261@bms.umist.ac.uk>

I'm trying to install xfree but 
when I type in (for example)

>XWin.exe query 

I get

> bash: XWin.exe:command not found

any ideas
-- 
Dr Khushwant Sidhu

e-mail ....... sid@bms.umist.ac.uk				  	
url    ....... http://wolf.bms.umist.ac.uk/~sid/

tel (work).... (+44) (0)161 200 5821					
mobile	  ....	0787 661 3861
fax (work).... (+44) (0)161 236 0409

address ...... Dept of Biomolecular Sciences	
               P.O. Box 88
               Manchester
               M60 1QD


From salexander@taz.qinetiq.com  Wed Apr 24 07:59:00 2002
From: salexander@taz.qinetiq.com (Scott Alexander)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:59:00 -0000
Subject: bash ...
References: <3CC6BE90.944FB261@bms.umist.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <000701c1eba0$c4cb3130$2153b80a@gooshy>

Check to see if you have the file XWin installed on your hard disk should be
in: /usr/X11R6/bin.  Also check that you have /usr/X11R6/bin in your path,
check by typing "echo %PATH" if its not add it by typing "export PATH =
$PATH: /usr/X11R6/bin" or set it up in your bash_profile.

Hope this helps.

Scott Alexander.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Khushwant Sidhu" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:17 PM
Subject: bash ...


> I'm trying to install xfree but
> when I type in (for example)
>
> >XWin.exe query 
>
> I get
>
> > bash: XWin.exe:command not found
>
> any ideas
> --
> Dr Khushwant Sidhu
>
> e-mail ....... sid@bms.umist.ac.uk
> url    ....... http://wolf.bms.umist.ac.uk/~sid/
>
> tel (work).... (+44) (0)161 200 5821
> mobile   .... 0787 661 3861
> fax (work).... (+44) (0)161 236 0409
>
> address ...... Dept of Biomolecular Sciences
>                P.O. Box 88
>                Manchester
>                M60 1QD


From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Wed Apr 24 09:41:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:41:00 -0000
Subject: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
Message-ID: 


Sometimes I experience a strange problem with not being able to start
up a windows program when I have cygwin/xfree running. When I click on a
windows program while running Cygwin/xfree the windows program first
comes up after I ghave shut down Cygwin/xfree. This is an intermittent
problem that only occurs about half the time. Has anyone had this
problem?

Thanks,
Lars.

--
Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592



From jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk  Wed Apr 24 10:20:00 2002
From: jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk (Jeremy Wilkins)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:20:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86
Message-ID: <001301c1ebb4$e927e0f0$0a00a8c0@bytenet>

Hi,

I've put together a very simple frontend to launch XWin with when used to
connect to XDMCP. The front end will handle passing font paths (and will
convert from windows to cygwin style paths) and the path to the colours
database. This means that XWin can be moved out of the directory structure
it would normally expect, so can be used as a normal windows app, just one
dependant on cygwin1.dll and cygz.dll.

I've got a couple of know issues with it though,

1) XWin insists on the existance of a /tmp/.X11-unix folder, are there any
commandline options, or compile options I can use to change this (so I can
put it in %TEMP%/.X11-unix).

2) The keyboard is always set to US. I've not managed to use the command
line option to change the keyboard layout, could someone please explain this
(where are the xmodmap files I should be using). Once I can do this, I can
make the frontend detect the windows keyboard layout and set Xwin
accordingly. At the moment XKeyboard extension is disabled because xkbcomp,
etc isn't available.

Finally could someone please clarify where I stand on licenses, what license
is Cygwin under, what is cygwin/xfree86 under, can I put my frontend under
GPL without conflicting with the other components.

http://www.jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk/extend/index.html

Any comments would be appreciated

Jeb




From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 24 10:45:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:45:00 -0000
Subject: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Lars,

In answer to your question: no, no one else has reported this problem.

We're going to need information on *exactly* which programs this problem
happens with.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:32 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
>
>
>
> Sometimes I experience a strange problem with not being able to start
> up a windows program when I have cygwin/xfree running. When I click on a
> windows program while running Cygwin/xfree the windows program first
> comes up after I ghave shut down Cygwin/xfree. This is an intermittent
> problem that only occurs about half the time. Has anyone had this
> problem?
>
> Thanks,
> Lars.
>
> --
> Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
>
>


From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Wed Apr 24 10:50:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:50:00 -0000
Subject: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Harold,

It happens when I run LyX - It doesn't happen when I run the default
startxwin.bat file coming with cygwin/xfree86.

Lars.

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:

> Lars,
> 
> In answer to your question: no, no one else has reported this problem.
> 
> We're going to need information on *exactly* which programs this problem
> happens with.
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:32 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
> >
> >
> >
> > Sometimes I experience a strange problem with not being able to start
> > up a windows program when I have cygwin/xfree running. When I click on a
> > windows program while running Cygwin/xfree the windows program first
> > comes up after I ghave shut down Cygwin/xfree. This is an intermittent
> > problem that only occurs about half the time. Has anyone had this
> > problem?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lars.
> >
> > --
> > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> > Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> >
> >
> 
> 

--
Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 24 10:56:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:56:00 -0000
Subject: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Lars,

Wait a minute, do you mean:
1) running LyX within Cygwin/XFree86 prevents Windows applications from
launching, or
2) attempting to launch a Windows version of Lyx is unsuccessful when
Cygwin/XFree86 is running?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:40 PM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
>
>
> Harold,
>
> It happens when I run LyX - It doesn't happen when I run the default
> startxwin.bat file coming with cygwin/xfree86.
>
> Lars.
>
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
>
> > Lars,
> >
> > In answer to your question: no, no one else has reported this problem.
> >
> > We're going to need information on *exactly* which programs this problem
> > happens with.
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:32 PM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sometimes I experience a strange problem with not being able to start
> > > up a windows program when I have cygwin/xfree running. When I
> click on a
> > > windows program while running Cygwin/xfree the windows program first
> > > comes up after I ghave shut down Cygwin/xfree. This is an intermittent
> > > problem that only occurs about half the time. Has anyone had this
> > > problem?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Lars.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> > > Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
>


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Wed Apr 24 10:58:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:58:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86
In-Reply-To: <001301c1ebb4$e927e0f0$0a00a8c0@bytenet>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Jeremy Wilkins wrote:

> 1) XWin insists on the existance of a /tmp/.X11-unix folder, are there any
> commandline options, or compile options I can use to change this (so I can
> put it in %TEMP%/.X11-unix).

Can't remember having seen such a feature. AFAIR, the server code (at 
least the xkb part) writes all temporary files to /tmp. But you can 
configure this at compiletime.
 
> 2) The keyboard is always set to US. I've not managed to use the command
> line option to change the keyboard layout, could someone please explain this
> (where are the xmodmap files I should be using). Once I can do this, I can
> make the frontend detect the windows keyboard layout and set Xwin
> accordingly. At the moment XKeyboard extension is disabled because xkbcomp,
> etc isn't available.

It think -xkbmap does this. But I'm not sure. 
The option requires one parameter which is a file in /tmp. Either this 
was a compiled keympa file as produced by xkbcomp or the description needed
as input for xkbcomp (I can't verify this since I have no system at hand
where I can test this, but I guess it was the first one) 
> 
> Finally could someone please clarify where I stand on licenses, what license
> is Cygwin under, what is cygwin/xfree86 under, can I put my frontend under
> GPL without conflicting with the other components.
> 
> http://www.jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk/extend/index.html

I'm not a lawyer but taken into account what software projects exist, GPL 
should be ok. 

- A lot of GPL programs use X11 (eg. Gnome)
- A lot of GPL programs use cygwin 

These examples don't prove that its legal, but I doubt its illegal. The
best is to wait for other responses.

bye
	ago
-- 
 Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de 
 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017


From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Wed Apr 24 11:05:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:05:00 -0000
Subject: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Harold,

Actually, I think I have to correct myself - I now think it is
xwinclip that hangs up things. I found a way to reproduce the problem.

1) Add the line
	start xwinclip 
   after the start twm line in startxwin.bat.

2) start cygwin/xfree with the new startxwin.bat

3) Go down and click on the windows meny bar and issue the command
   WindowsKey-E (to bring up windows Explorer). (WindowsKey is the key with 
   a MSWindow on it).

4) After this I can't bring any windows programs up (at least for a
   while). Try to click the Start button, for example. The windows side
   of the machine become very sluggish.


   Lars.


On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:

> Lars,
> 
> In answer to your question: no, no one else has reported this problem.
> 
> We're going to need information on *exactly* which programs this problem
> happens with.
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:32 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
> >
> >
> >
> > Sometimes I experience a strange problem with not being able to start
> > up a windows program when I have cygwin/xfree running. When I click on a
> > windows program while running Cygwin/xfree the windows program first
> > comes up after I ghave shut down Cygwin/xfree. This is an intermittent
> > problem that only occurs about half the time. Has anyone had this
> > problem?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lars.
> >
> > --
> > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> > Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> >
> >
> 
> 

--
Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592


From huntharo@msu.edu  Wed Apr 24 11:14:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:14:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86
In-Reply-To: <001301c1ebb4$e927e0f0$0a00a8c0@bytenet>
Message-ID: 

Jeremy,

I just tried 'XWin -nolisten local'.  This prevented /tmp/.X11-unix from
being created, but I didn't test the method thoroughly to make sure that
everything (remote clients, etc.) still works.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jeremy Wilkins
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:24 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I've put together a very simple frontend to launch XWin with when used to
> connect to XDMCP. The front end will handle passing font paths (and will
> convert from windows to cygwin style paths) and the path to the colours
> database. This means that XWin can be moved out of the directory structure
> it would normally expect, so can be used as a normal windows app, just one
> dependant on cygwin1.dll and cygz.dll.
>
> I've got a couple of know issues with it though,
>
> 1) XWin insists on the existance of a /tmp/.X11-unix folder, are there any
> commandline options, or compile options I can use to change this (so I can
> put it in %TEMP%/.X11-unix).
>
> 2) The keyboard is always set to US. I've not managed to use the command
> line option to change the keyboard layout, could someone please
> explain this
> (where are the xmodmap files I should be using). Once I can do this, I can
> make the frontend detect the windows keyboard layout and set Xwin
> accordingly. At the moment XKeyboard extension is disabled
> because xkbcomp,
> etc isn't available.
>
> Finally could someone please clarify where I stand on licenses,
> what license
> is Cygwin under, what is cygwin/xfree86 under, can I put my frontend under
> GPL without conflicting with the other components.
>
> http://www.jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk/extend/index.html
>
> Any comments would be appreciated
>
> Jeb
>
>
>


From jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk  Wed Apr 24 12:25:00 2002
From: jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk (Jeremy Wilkins)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:25:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86
References: 
Message-ID: <005801c1ebc6$52851570$0a00a8c0@bytenet>

Hi,

That solves the local socket problem, is the Xserver likely to need the temp
folder for anything else (log files spring to mind, can I switch these off).

If so, where in the code do I change the /tmp default - I spent most of this
morning looking through the code but drew a blank (I don't know either C or
makefiles so I was probably looking past it or in the wrong place).

Thanks

Jeb
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: "Jeremy Wilkins" 
Cc: "cygx" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 7:14 PM
Subject: RE: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86


> Jeremy,
>
> I just tried 'XWin -nolisten local'.  This prevented /tmp/.X11-unix from
> being created, but I didn't test the method thoroughly to make sure that
> everything (remote clients, etc.) still works.
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Jeremy Wilkins
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:24 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've put together a very simple frontend to launch XWin with when used
to
> > connect to XDMCP. The front end will handle passing font paths (and will
> > convert from windows to cygwin style paths) and the path to the colours
> > database. This means that XWin can be moved out of the directory
structure
> > it would normally expect, so can be used as a normal windows app, just
one
> > dependant on cygwin1.dll and cygz.dll.
> >
> > I've got a couple of know issues with it though,
> >
> > 1) XWin insists on the existance of a /tmp/.X11-unix folder, are there
any
> > commandline options, or compile options I can use to change this (so I
can
> > put it in %TEMP%/.X11-unix).
> >
> > 2) The keyboard is always set to US. I've not managed to use the command
> > line option to change the keyboard layout, could someone please
> > explain this
> > (where are the xmodmap files I should be using). Once I can do this, I
can
> > make the frontend detect the windows keyboard layout and set Xwin
> > accordingly. At the moment XKeyboard extension is disabled
> > because xkbcomp,
> > etc isn't available.
> >
> > Finally could someone please clarify where I stand on licenses,
> > what license
> > is Cygwin under, what is cygwin/xfree86 under, can I put my frontend
under
> > GPL without conflicting with the other components.
> >
> > http://www.jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk/extend/index.html
> >
> > Any comments would be appreciated
> >
> > Jeb
> >
> >
> >
>
>



From jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk  Wed Apr 24 12:25:00 2002
From: jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk (Jeremy Wilkins)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:25:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86
References: <001301c1ebb4$e927e0f0$0a00a8c0@bytenet> <005c01c1ebb9$40aa1510$1300a8c0@pmb>
Message-ID: <005701c1ebc6$51367560$0a00a8c0@bytenet>

Thanks, but this is kind of aimed at people who only want Cygwin/XFree for
just the XDMCP stuff (ie to get to another machine), which, from watching
the list, seems to be quite a few people.

Thanks

jeremy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Bradford" 
To: "Jeremy Wilkins" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86


> Well, one way to get around needing to do any of that is to make a
shortcut
> with the command line being:
>
> c:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe -login -c "XWin.exe -query
> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -fullscreen [-whatever]"
>
> with the working directory being c:\cygwin\bin
>
> This will leave a blank CygWin window which can be safely closed.
>
>     - Matt
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeremy Wilkins" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:24 PM
> Subject: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've put together a very simple frontend to launch XWin with when used
to
> > connect to XDMCP. The front end will handle passing font paths (and will
> > convert from windows to cygwin style paths) and the path to the colours
> > database. This means that XWin can be moved out of the directory
structure
> > it would normally expect, so can be used as a normal windows app, just
one
> > dependant on cygwin1.dll and cygz.dll.
> >
> > I've got a couple of know issues with it though,
> >
> > 1) XWin insists on the existance of a /tmp/.X11-unix folder, are there
any
> > commandline options, or compile options I can use to change this (so I
can
> > put it in %TEMP%/.X11-unix).
> >
> > 2) The keyboard is always set to US. I've not managed to use the command
> > line option to change the keyboard layout, could someone please explain
> this
> > (where are the xmodmap files I should be using). Once I can do this, I
can
> > make the frontend detect the windows keyboard layout and set Xwin
> > accordingly. At the moment XKeyboard extension is disabled because
> xkbcomp,
> > etc isn't available.
> >
> > Finally could someone please clarify where I stand on licenses, what
> license
> > is Cygwin under, what is cygwin/xfree86 under, can I put my frontend
under
> > GPL without conflicting with the other components.
> >
> > http://www.jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk/extend/index.html
> >
> > Any comments would be appreciated
> >
> > Jeb
> >
> >
>
>




From jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk  Wed Apr 24 12:25:00 2002
From: jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk (Jeremy Wilkins)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 12:25:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86
References: 
Message-ID: <005901c1ebc6$53980c10$0a00a8c0@bytenet>

Hi Ago,

I'll have another go with the XKB stuff, can you point me to some docs on
this?

You say that /tmp is a compile time option, where do I find this?

Thanks

jeb

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Gottwald" 
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86


> On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Jeremy Wilkins wrote:
>
> > 1) XWin insists on the existance of a /tmp/.X11-unix folder, are there
any
> > commandline options, or compile options I can use to change this (so I
can
> > put it in %TEMP%/.X11-unix).
>
> Can't remember having seen such a feature. AFAIR, the server code (at
> least the xkb part) writes all temporary files to /tmp. But you can
> configure this at compiletime.
>
> > 2) The keyboard is always set to US. I've not managed to use the command
> > line option to change the keyboard layout, could someone please explain
this
> > (where are the xmodmap files I should be using). Once I can do this, I
can
> > make the frontend detect the windows keyboard layout and set Xwin
> > accordingly. At the moment XKeyboard extension is disabled because
xkbcomp,
> > etc isn't available.
>
> It think -xkbmap does this. But I'm not sure.
> The option requires one parameter which is a file in /tmp. Either this
> was a compiled keympa file as produced by xkbcomp or the description
needed
> as input for xkbcomp (I can't verify this since I have no system at hand
> where I can test this, but I guess it was the first one)
> >
> > Finally could someone please clarify where I stand on licenses, what
license
> > is Cygwin under, what is cygwin/xfree86 under, can I put my frontend
under
> > GPL without conflicting with the other components.
> >
> > http://www.jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk/extend/index.html
>
> I'm not a lawyer but taken into account what software projects exist, GPL
> should be ok.
>
> - A lot of GPL programs use X11 (eg. Gnome)
> - A lot of GPL programs use cygwin
>
> These examples don't prove that its legal, but I doubt its illegal. The
> best is to wait for other responses.
>
> bye
> ago
> --
>  Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
>  http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
>  phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017
>
>


From david.w.dawson@lmco.com  Wed Apr 24 13:34:00 2002
From: david.w.dawson@lmco.com (Dawson, David W)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:34:00 -0000
Subject: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
Message-ID: <0C73AA5F720CD311AC2A0008C7DBA9B403BDF70C@emss09m13.ems.lmco.com>

I have to agree with xwinclip as the culprit.
I have experienced this problem for some time, on 3 different platforms (98,
NT and 2K) with the same symptoms, and the added evidence that killing
xwinclip (kill -9 ) allows the desired program to come up right away.
(Actually my experience is that double-clicking a file in Windows Explorer
will often result in such a "hung" program.)

I have been following the discussion about xwinclip and how it tries to
determine when things are added to the clipboard, and wonder if this is the
root of the problem.

Anyway, since I have no time to help contribute to the solution, I have been
reluctant to bring it up as a problem.  (I just kill xwinclip, then restart
it.)

	-D.
---------------------
David Dawson
david.w.dawson@lmco.com
703-367-3885


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Lars Jensen [SMTP:jensen@physics.unr.edu]
> Sent:	Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:55 PM
> To:	Harold Hunt
> Cc:	cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject:	RE: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
> 
> Harold,
> 
> Actually, I think I have to correct myself - I now think it is
> xwinclip that hangs up things. I found a way to reproduce the problem.
> 
> 1) Add the line
> 	start xwinclip 
>    after the start twm line in startxwin.bat.
> 
> 2) start cygwin/xfree with the new startxwin.bat
> 
> 3) Go down and click on the windows meny bar and issue the command
>    WindowsKey-E (to bring up windows Explorer). (WindowsKey is the key
> with 
>    a MSWindow on it).
> 
> 4) After this I can't bring any windows programs up (at least for a
>    while). Try to click the Start button, for example. The windows side
>    of the machine become very sluggish.
> 
> 
>    Lars.
> 
> 
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> > Lars,
> > 
> > In answer to your question: no, no one else has reported this problem.
> > 
> > We're going to need information on *exactly* which programs this problem
> > happens with.
> > 
> > Harold
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:32 PM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sometimes I experience a strange problem with not being able to start
> > > up a windows program when I have cygwin/xfree running. When I click on
> a
> > > windows program while running Cygwin/xfree the windows program first
> > > comes up after I ghave shut down Cygwin/xfree. This is an intermittent
> > > problem that only occurs about half the time. Has anyone had this
> > > problem?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Lars.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> > > Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> 
> --
> Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
> Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592


From kmpm@telia.com  Wed Apr 24 14:21:00 2002
From: kmpm@telia.com (Peter Magnusson)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:21:00 -0000
Subject: Failed assertion bug using OpenOffice.org
Message-ID: <200204242121.g3OLL1M18116@d1o1006.telia.com>

I have a setup with cygwin 1.3.9-1 and 4.2.0 of cygwin-xfree.
I have a little problem when using openoffice.org (641c) both with and 
without a windowmanager. I use SuSE 7.3 Pro Linux distribution with 
KDE. I use Windows 2000 Pro, SP2 (english).

When accessing any of the menuitems a Windows(ms) dialog box pops up 
saying ...
---------------------
Faild assertion 
   fds_on_hold !NULL
at line 601 of /cygnus/netrel/src/cygwin-1.3.9-1/winsup/cygwin/dtable.cc
---------------------
This seems to be a similar bug that has been reported when using KDE3 
but I am not sertain.
I get the same results using the T55 version of XWin.exe.

I use openoffice.org a lot and it would be a lot simpler if I could use 
the same environment (XWindows) when using my Windows box as well.


======================================
            Peter Magnusson
         mailto:kmpm@telia.com
======================================


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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:37:00 -0000
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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:37:00 -0000
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From Christian.MOMON@one2team.com  Thu Apr 25 02:32:00 2002
From: Christian.MOMON@one2team.com (Christian P. Momon)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 02:32:00 -0000
Subject: "F1" binding on twm failed.
Message-ID: <3CC7CD1C.9020200@one2team.com>


  Hi,

  I am trying to configure my twmrc, so i add:
"F1" =  : all : f.iconify

  But, it doesnt work.

I use Xfree86 4.2.0 with xwinclip-Test03.exe.bz2.

Nothing in guide, archive and google. I need help.

  Thanks.

  Cpm.
-- 
Christian MOMON
ONE2TEAM R&D
cmomon@ONE2TEAM.com


From gh@herbort-rottschaefer.de  Thu Apr 25 02:41:00 2002
From: gh@herbort-rottschaefer.de (Gregor Herbort)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 02:41:00 -0000
Subject: Installation Problems
Message-ID: 

Hello,

i downloaded Cygwin/XFree86. When i try to install with ./Xinstall i get a
Windows Error Message that the cygintl-1.dll is missing.
Nevertheless the Xinstall script starts and examined the file extract.exe
and comes to the conclusion that this file si not correct renamed it and
then the script stops.
Any tips?

greetings
Gregor


From salexander@taz.qinetiq.com  Thu Apr 25 04:00:00 2002
From: salexander@taz.qinetiq.com (Scott Alexander)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 04:00:00 -0000
Subject: bash ...
References: <3CC6BE90.944FB261@bms.umist.ac.uk> <000701c1eba0$c4cb3130$2153b80a@gooshy> <3CC7DBE6.399B2CBE@bms.umist.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <001b01c1ec48$9acd49b0$2153b80a@gooshy>

If you have XWin.exe in the /usr/x11R6/bin directory then it should be
installed.  Im not sure what doesn't exist when you say:

"and X is a soft link to XWin (which doesn't exist)"

If you go to the /usr/X11R6/bin directory and type "./XWin.exe" what
happens?



----- Original Message -----
From: "Khushwant Sidhu" 
To: "Scott Alexander" 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: bash ...


> Thanks Scott
>
> I have XWin.exe in the /usr/x11R6/bin directory
> and X is a soft link to XWin (which doesn't exist)
>
> how can I install XWin
>
> sid
> --
> Dr Khushwant Sidhu
>
> e-mail ....... sid@bms.umist.ac.uk
> url    ....... http://wolf.bms.umist.ac.uk/~sid/
>
> tel (work).... (+44) (0)161 200 5821
> mobile   .... 0787 661 3861
> fax (work).... (+44) (0)161 236 0409
>
> address ...... Dept of Biomolecular Sciences
>                P.O. Box 88
>                Manchester
>                M60 1QD


From salexander@taz.qinetiq.com  Thu Apr 25 04:20:00 2002
From: salexander@taz.qinetiq.com (Scott Alexander)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 04:20:00 -0000
Subject: bash ...
References: <3CC6BE90.944FB261@bms.umist.ac.uk> <000701c1eba0$c4cb3130$2153b80a@gooshy> <3CC7DBE6.399B2CBE@bms.umist.ac.uk> <001b01c1ec48$9acd49b0$2153b80a@gooshy> <3CC7E366.D5E42878@bms.umist.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <000d01c1ec4b$5da102e0$2153b80a@gooshy>

The grey blank window that you are seeing is X.  You just have to figure
what you want to put on it. :-)

Have fun.
Scott.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Khushwant Sidhu" 
To: "Scott Alexander" 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: bash ...


> Scott Alexander wrote:
> >
> > If you have XWin.exe in the /usr/x11R6/bin directory then it should be
> > installed.  Im not sure what doesn't exist when you say:
> >
> > "and X is a soft link to XWin (which doesn't exist)"
> >
> > If you go to the /usr/X11R6/bin directory and type "./XWin.exe" what
> > happens?
>
>
> Scott,
>
> I get a full screen (grey) blank window labelled Cygwin/XFree86
>
>
> (thanks for your time)
>
> sid
>
> --
> Dr Khushwant Sidhu
>
> e-mail ....... sid@bms.umist.ac.uk
> url    ....... http://wolf.bms.umist.ac.uk/~sid/
>
> tel (work).... (+44) (0)161 200 5821
> mobile   .... 0787 661 3861
> fax (work).... (+44) (0)161 236 0409
>
> address ...... Dept of Biomolecular Sciences
>                P.O. Box 88
>                Manchester
>                M60 1QD


From jmlee@optusnet.com.au  Thu Apr 25 04:52:00 2002
From: jmlee@optusnet.com.au (Mike Daffey)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 04:52:00 -0000
Subject: xfree impossibly slow with hummingbird socks installed
Message-ID: <3CC7EDE1.7ACBA4F5@optusnet.com.au>

I'm new to cygwin & xfree and pretty ignorant of Win2K; apologies if
this is so well-known it doesn't  rate a mention.
It's also not a problem for me - I can live without SOCKS most of the
time.
I installed cygwin & xfree from the net on a win2k (service pack 2)
laptop a few days ago. 256MB, 650MHz PIII.  startxwin.sh gets XWin, twm
and xterm running, but amazingly slow. (xsetroot takes 22seconds to
run...)  Only other effect is that menu fonts seem to be invisible -
green fg on green background?

Cygwin performance seems ok. A few experiments strongly suggest that
XWin is being scheduled very briefly once per second and this behaviour
is independent of mouse movement. Another laptop with the same h/w & O/S
is fine.
Considerably later....
Noticed that an unconfigured Hummingbird SOCKS client has a DLL loaded.
Deinstall SOCKS with XWin running and get the interesting message to the
effect that cygwin/xfree should be stopped before proceeding with the
deinstall.
Obey orders, restart XWin; everything fine (including menus).
Reinstalled/deinstalled  SOCKS to verify that this is reproducible.
The SOCKs client is a version 7.10 - (socks_v71_releasd.exe), a free
download from www.hummingbird.com. Dunno whether 7.10 is the latest
version; it's certainly only a few months old.
below are the outputs of xdpyinfo and the XWin log. diff tells me
there's no difference with or without SOCKS.

Mike

xdpyinfo output:
===========
name of display:    127.0.0.1:0.0
version number:    11.0
vendor string:    The XFree86 Project, Inc
vendor release number:    40200000
XFree86 version: 4.2.0
maximum request size:  4194300 bytes
motion buffer size:  256
bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    32, LSBFirst, 32
image byte order:    LSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats:    7
supported pixmap formats:
    depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
    depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
    depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
    depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
    depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
    depth 24, bits_per_pixel 24, scanline_pad 32
    depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
keycode range:    minimum 8, maximum 255
focus:  window 0x20000e, revert to PointerRoot
number of extensions:    22
    BIG-REQUESTS
    DEC-XTRAP
    DOUBLE-BUFFER
    Extended-Visual-Information
    FontCache
    GLX
    LBX
    MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
    RANDR
    RECORD
    RENDER
    SECURITY
    SGI-GLX
    SHAPE
    SYNC
    TOG-CUP
    XC-APPGROUP
    XC-MISC
    XFree86-Bigfont
    XKEYBOARD
    XTEST
    XVideo
default screen number:    0
number of screens:    1

screen #0:
  dimensions:    1018x715 pixels (345x242 millimeters)
  resolution:    75x75 dots per inch
  depths (7):    32, 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 24
  root window id:    0x36
  depth of root window:    32 planes
  number of colormaps:    minimum 1, maximum 1
  default colormap:    0x20
  default number of colormap cells:    2048
  preallocated pixels:    black 0, white 16777215
  options:    backing-store NO, save-unders NO
  largest cursor:    1018x715
  current input event mask:    0xd0001d
    KeyPressMask             ButtonPressMask          ButtonReleaseMask
    EnterWindowMask          SubstructureRedirectMask PropertyChangeMask

    ColormapChangeMask
  number of visuals:    2
  default visual id:  0x22
  visual:
    visual id:    0x22
    class:    TrueColor
    depth:    32 planes
    available colormap entries:    2048 per subfield
    red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
    significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
  visual:
    visual id:    0x23
    class:    TrueColor
    depth:    32 planes
    available colormap entries:    2048 per subfield
    red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
    significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
XWin.log (from just running XWin at the bash prompt)
====================================
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits
per pixel
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l
0 b 715 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 4072
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
32
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 32
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
error opening security policy file
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,
removing from list!
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,
removing from list!
winWindowProc () - Closekey hit, quitting
winCloseScreenShadowDDNL () - Freeing screen resources



From Christian.MOMON@one2team.com  Thu Apr 25 05:11:00 2002
From: Christian.MOMON@one2team.com (Christian P. Momon)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 05:11:00 -0000
Subject: "F1" binding on twm failed.
References: <3CC7CD1C.9020200@one2team.com>
Message-ID: <3CC7F23D.9040906@one2team.com>

Christian P. Momon wrote:
> 
>  Hi,
> 
>  I am trying to configure my twmrc, so i add:
> "F1" =  : all : f.iconify
> 
>  But, it doesnt work.
> 
> I use Xfree86 4.2.0 with xwinclip-Test03.exe.bz2.

On Windows2000, 800mhz and 700Mo RAM.


From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de  Thu Apr 25 05:38:00 2002
From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 05:38:00 -0000
Subject: XDMCP client using Cygwin/Xfree86
In-Reply-To: <005901c1ebc6$53980c10$0a00a8c0@bytenet>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Jeremy Wilkins wrote:

> Hi Ago,
> 
> I'll have another go with the XKB stuff, can you point me to some docs on
> this?

only the man pages for X.
man xkbcomp
man X
man XFree86

> You say that /tmp is a compile time option, where do I find this?

You could only change the path from /tmp to something else. 
The easiest way to create the /tmp dir is to mount $TEMP or $TMP to /tmp.

bye
	ago
-- 
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 http://www.gotti.org           ICQ: 126018723
 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80	mobile: +49 172 7854017


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From jerome.bauwens@steria.com  Thu Apr 25 07:37:00 2002
From: jerome.bauwens@steria.com (jerome bauwens)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 07:37:00 -0000
Subject: keyboard problem starting XFree86
Message-ID: 

I installed cygwin/xfree86 on windows 2000 to have a x-server (with the
default selection of packages and the packages from xfree/binaries/4.2.0)
The cygwin environment runs fine but the x-environment (using startx) has an
american keyboard (I use a french keyboard).
Could you tell me how to get my keyboard to work fine under the
x-environment.

Thanks.

Jerome BAUWENS.
jerome.bauwens@steria.com


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr 25 10:38:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 10:38:00 -0000
Subject: [2]  Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Lars,

I probably won't have time to look at this soon.  Maybe next week.

Don't forget to cc the cygwin-xfree mailing list when you mail me, because
you're not having a conversation with me (even though I wrote xwinclip) you
are having a conversation with the Cygwin/XFree86 project and we like to
keep these conversations public so that others can pitch in.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lars Jensen [mailto:jensen@physics.unr.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:11 PM
> To: huntharo@msu.edu
> Subject: RE:[2] Problem with windows programs w/Cygwin-xfree
>
>
> Harold,
>
> xwinclip seems to be the problem program. Did you try the steps
> below - I have
> tried them on several machines by now, and on all the "lock up"
> windows, at
> kleast for a while, so I can't launch MSWindows programs. When I stop
> xwinclip the problem goes away.
>
> Lars.
>
> 1) start cygwin/cfree with startxwin.bat.
>
> 2) in the xterm window, start xwinclip
>
> 3) Go down and click on the windows meny bar and issue the command
> WindowsKey-E (to bring up windows Explorer). (WindowsKey is the key with
> a MSWindow on it).
>
> 4) After this I can't bring any windows programs up (at least for
> a while). Try to
> click the Start button, for example. The windows side of the
> machine become
> very sluggish. Lars.
>
> >We're??going??to??need??information??on??*exactly*??which??programs??this??problem
> > happens??with.
>
>


From emu@emu.no-ip.org  Thu Apr 25 11:11:00 2002
From: emu@emu.no-ip.org (Edmund Urbani)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 11:11:00 -0000
Subject: XKB not working
Message-ID: <3CC84735.E39D39D@emu.no-ip.org>


Hi!

Yesterday i installed cygwin with XFree 4.2.0. Everything worked fine
from the start except that I could not set it up for my german keyboard
layout. All I get, when I try to use eg. setxkbmap is a popup window
(outside the X server as a normal Win2000-window) with this error
message:

Failed assertion
fds_on_hold !=NULL
at line 643 of file
/cygnus/netrel/src/cygwin-1.3.10-1/winsup/cygwin/dtable.cc

Other tools using XKB (like Kde Control Center) cause the same error.

I found an earlier post from Charles L. Werner on this list, who appears
to have (had?) the same problem, but there does not seem to be a helpful
reply to that one.
As a workaround I am currently using xmodmap in the X server's startup
scripts, but I would really prefer to use XKB instead.

So, any ideas what might be wrong with my X server? What is this
fds_on_hold variable and that dtable.cc file all about, anyway?

 Edmund


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr 25 12:02:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:02:00 -0000
Subject: XKB not working
In-Reply-To: <3CC84735.E39D39D@emu.no-ip.org>
Message-ID: 

Edmund,

You have stumbled across a bug that we have recently noticed.  We do not yet
know what causes it to happen, but we do have several reproducible test
cases.  Please watch the mailing list for news on how the fixing of this bug
is progressing.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Edmund Urbani
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:13 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: XKB not working
>
>
>
> Hi!
>
> Yesterday i installed cygwin with XFree 4.2.0. Everything worked fine
> from the start except that I could not set it up for my german keyboard
> layout. All I get, when I try to use eg. setxkbmap is a popup window
> (outside the X server as a normal Win2000-window) with this error
> message:
>
> Failed assertion
> fds_on_hold !=NULL
> at line 643 of file
> /cygnus/netrel/src/cygwin-1.3.10-1/winsup/cygwin/dtable.cc
>
> Other tools using XKB (like Kde Control Center) cause the same error.
>
> I found an earlier post from Charles L. Werner on this list, who appears
> to have (had?) the same problem, but there does not seem to be a helpful
> reply to that one.
> As a workaround I am currently using xmodmap in the X server's startup
> scripts, but I would really prefer to use XKB instead.
>
> So, any ideas what might be wrong with my X server? What is this
> fds_on_hold variable and that dtable.cc file all about, anyway?
>
>  Edmund
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Thu Apr 25 12:09:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:09:00 -0000
Subject: xfree impossibly slow with hummingbird socks installed
In-Reply-To: <3CC7EDE1.7ACBA4F5@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: 

Mike,

Cygwin and Cygwin/XFree86 use tcp/ip sockets extensively.  Therefore, it
makes perfect sense that any additional overhead in the sockets layer would
show a large effect on the performance of Cygwin/XFree86.  I have no
experience with Hummingbird's SOCKS package, but from the nature of what the
package does (it is essentially a firewall product) I can guess that it
would slow down the responsiveness of tcp/ip sockets significantly.

Prognosis: don't install Hummingbird's SOCKS :)

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Mike Daffey
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 7:52 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com
> Subject: xfree impossibly slow with hummingbird socks installed
>
>
> I'm new to cygwin & xfree and pretty ignorant of Win2K; apologies if
> this is so well-known it doesn't  rate a mention.
> It's also not a problem for me - I can live without SOCKS most of the
> time.
> I installed cygwin & xfree from the net on a win2k (service pack 2)
> laptop a few days ago. 256MB, 650MHz PIII.  startxwin.sh gets XWin, twm
> and xterm running, but amazingly slow. (xsetroot takes 22seconds to
> run...)  Only other effect is that menu fonts seem to be invisible -
> green fg on green background?
>
> Cygwin performance seems ok. A few experiments strongly suggest that
> XWin is being scheduled very briefly once per second and this behaviour
> is independent of mouse movement. Another laptop with the same h/w & O/S
> is fine.
> Considerably later....
> Noticed that an unconfigured Hummingbird SOCKS client has a DLL loaded.
> Deinstall SOCKS with XWin running and get the interesting message to the
> effect that cygwin/xfree should be stopped before proceeding with the
> deinstall.
> Obey orders, restart XWin; everything fine (including menus).
> Reinstalled/deinstalled  SOCKS to verify that this is reproducible.
> The SOCKs client is a version 7.10 - (socks_v71_releasd.exe), a free
> download from www.hummingbird.com. Dunno whether 7.10 is the latest
> version; it's certainly only a few months old.
> below are the outputs of xdpyinfo and the XWin log. diff tells me
> there's no difference with or without SOCKS.
>
> Mike
>
> xdpyinfo output:
> ===========
> name of display:    127.0.0.1:0.0
> version number:    11.0
> vendor string:    The XFree86 Project, Inc
> vendor release number:    40200000
> XFree86 version: 4.2.0
> maximum request size:  4194300 bytes
> motion buffer size:  256
> bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    32, LSBFirst, 32
> image byte order:    LSBFirst
> number of supported pixmap formats:    7
> supported pixmap formats:
>     depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
>     depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
>     depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
>     depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
>     depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
>     depth 24, bits_per_pixel 24, scanline_pad 32
>     depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
> keycode range:    minimum 8, maximum 255
> focus:  window 0x20000e, revert to PointerRoot
> number of extensions:    22
>     BIG-REQUESTS
>     DEC-XTRAP
>     DOUBLE-BUFFER
>     Extended-Visual-Information
>     FontCache
>     GLX
>     LBX
>     MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
>     RANDR
>     RECORD
>     RENDER
>     SECURITY
>     SGI-GLX
>     SHAPE
>     SYNC
>     TOG-CUP
>     XC-APPGROUP
>     XC-MISC
>     XFree86-Bigfont
>     XKEYBOARD
>     XTEST
>     XVideo
> default screen number:    0
> number of screens:    1
>
> screen #0:
>   dimensions:    1018x715 pixels (345x242 millimeters)
>   resolution:    75x75 dots per inch
>   depths (7):    32, 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 24
>   root window id:    0x36
>   depth of root window:    32 planes
>   number of colormaps:    minimum 1, maximum 1
>   default colormap:    0x20
>   default number of colormap cells:    2048
>   preallocated pixels:    black 0, white 16777215
>   options:    backing-store NO, save-unders NO
>   largest cursor:    1018x715
>   current input event mask:    0xd0001d
>     KeyPressMask             ButtonPressMask          ButtonReleaseMask
>     EnterWindowMask          SubstructureRedirectMask PropertyChangeMask
>
>     ColormapChangeMask
>   number of visuals:    2
>   default visual id:  0x22
>   visual:
>     visual id:    0x22
>     class:    TrueColor
>     depth:    32 planes
>     available colormap entries:    2048 per subfield
>     red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
>     significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
>   visual:
>     visual id:    0x23
>     class:    TrueColor
>     depth:    32 planes
>     available colormap entries:    2048 per subfield
>     red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
>     significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
> XWin.log (from just running XWin at the bash prompt)
> ====================================
> winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
> _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits
> per pixel
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 740 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 715 r 1018 l
> 0 b 715 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 4072
> winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
> 32
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 32
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> error opening security policy file
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,
> removing from list!
> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,
> removing from list!
> winWindowProc () - Closekey hit, quitting
> winCloseScreenShadowDDNL () - Freeing screen resources
>
>


From iburrell@znark.com  Thu Apr 25 16:36:00 2002
From: iburrell@znark.com (Ian Burrell)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 16:36:00 -0000
Subject: bash ...
References: <3CC6BE90.944FB261@bms.umist.ac.uk> <000701c1eba0$c4cb3130$2153b80a@gooshy> <3CC7DBE6.399B2CBE@bms.umist.ac.uk> <001b01c1ec48$9acd49b0$2153b80a@gooshy>
Message-ID: <3CC89307.3050108@znark.com>

Scott Alexander wrote:
> If you have XWin.exe in the /usr/x11R6/bin directory then it should be
> installed.  Im not sure what doesn't exist when you say:
> 
> "and X is a soft link to XWin (which doesn't exist)"
> 

In the .tgz packages, /usr/X11R6/bin/X was a symlink to XWin. With 
Cygwin, XWin doesn't exist, XWin.exe does. This is fixed in the setup 
packages.

  - Ian
-- 
iburrell@znark.com
http://www.znark.com/


From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com  Thu Apr 25 16:53:00 2002
From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 16:53:00 -0000
Subject: Error Installing imlib 1.9.14
In-Reply-To: <20020425234813.85354.qmail@web14304.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20020425234813.85354.qmail@web14304.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020425235301.GD28862@redhat.com>

I've redirected your comment to the cygwin-xfree mailing list.

cgf

On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 04:48:13PM -0700, Peter None wrote:
>Thanks for your reply, Ive installed tiff-3.5.7.1 and
>tried to install imlib again, and now receive this
>error
>
>checking for jpeg_destroy_decompress in -ljpeg... yes
>checking for jpeglib.h... yes
>checking for TIFFReadScanline in -ltiff... yes
>checking for tiffio.h... (cached) no
>configure: error: *** TIFF header files not found ***
>
>Any Ideas?
>Thanks for your assistance.
>
>
>
>On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 09:49:50PM -0700, Peter None
>wrote:
>>Whilst installing this package, I get this configure
>>error: *** TIFF Library not found ***
>>I've installed ImageMagick-5.4.4 which seems to have
>>gone fine.
>>Below is the contents of the configure log.
>>
>>Any help finding a solution would be fantastic.
>
>http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-grep.cgi?grep=libtiff
>
>cgf
>
>
>
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From U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de  Thu Apr 25 23:58:00 2002
From: U.Schmidtmann@visicon-online.de (Uwe Schmidtmann)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 23:58:00 -0000
Subject: XKB not working
References: <3CC84735.E39D39D@emu.no-ip.org>
Message-ID: <3CC8FA7D.90908@visicon-online.de>

Hello.

I had a lot of problems with keyboard layouts as well with the older 
version of X on cygnu. Since them I am still using the following lines 
in my local .xinitrc:

sysmodmap=/etc/german.key

if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then
     xmodmap $sysmodmap
fi


This is a workaround but it works. The Keyboard mapping was read with 
xmodmap from my linux box...

I do not want to post the keyboard file here, but in case you need it, 
just let me know.

Regards,

Uwe

Edmund Urbani wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> Yesterday i installed cygwin with XFree 4.2.0. Everything worked fine
> from the start except that I could not set it up for my german keyboard
> layout. All I get, when I try to use eg. setxkbmap is a popup window
> (outside the X server as a normal Win2000-window) with this error
> message:
> 
> Failed assertion
> fds_on_hold !=NULL
> at line 643 of file
> /cygnus/netrel/src/cygwin-1.3.10-1/winsup/cygwin/dtable.cc
> 
> Other tools using XKB (like Kde Control Center) cause the same error.
> 
> I found an earlier post from Charles L. Werner on this list, who appears
> to have (had?) the same problem, but there does not seem to be a helpful
> reply to that one.
> As a workaround I am currently using xmodmap in the X server's startup
> scripts, but I would really prefer to use XKB instead.
> 
> So, any ideas what might be wrong with my X server? What is this
> fds_on_hold variable and that dtable.cc file all about, anyway?
> 
>  Edmund
> 
> 
> 
> 



From yuga@yuga.ru  Fri Apr 26 00:26:00 2002
From: yuga@yuga.ru (=?koi8-r?B?+sHRwyDhLuEu?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 00:26:00 -0000
Subject: Some nice screen shots
Message-ID: <944625821.20020426112544@yuga.ru>

Hello cygwin-xfree,

Some nice screen shots.. :0)

http://www.yuga.ru/img/kde/cygwin-kde0.gif
http://www.yuga.ru/img/kde/cygwin-kde1.gif
http://www.yuga.ru/img/kde/cygwin-kde3.gif
http://www.yuga.ru/img/kde/cygwin-kde4.gif  

-- 
Best regards,
 ????????                          mailto:yuga@yuga.ru


From emre.turkay@bilten.metu.edu.tr  Fri Apr 26 00:45:00 2002
From: emre.turkay@bilten.metu.edu.tr (Emre Turkay)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 00:45:00 -0000
Subject: gnome
Message-ID: <006901c1ecf7$7a06d570$45f67a90@aiur>

Hi, all.

Just wandering does anybody has tried to build Gnome for Cygwin ?  
Yes, I plan to..

emre


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From salexander@taz.qinetiq.com  Fri Apr 26 04:50:00 2002
From: salexander@taz.qinetiq.com (Scott Alexander)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 04:50:00 -0000
Subject: KDE 3.0 icons
Message-ID: 

Hi,

Im not sure if this is a XFree86 problem or not.  I use the command

x -query 

to hook up to a linux server so I can use kde via xfree86 and cygwin.  This
has been working great for me with the server running Redhat 7.2 and KDE
2.2.2,  however the server has just been updated to KDE 3.0 and now all my
icons have disapeared.

Does anyone know a solution/workaround for this or experienced it yet?

Cheers.
Scott Alexander


From exodus@psyon.org  Fri Apr 26 04:54:00 2002
From: exodus@psyon.org (Psyon)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 04:54:00 -0000
Subject: gnome
References: <006901c1ecf7$7a06d570$45f67a90@aiur>
Message-ID: <3CC93FFA.40700@psyon.org>

Yes, I have built it, it runs fine.

Emre Turkay wrote:

>Hi, all.
>
>Just wandering does anybody has tried to build Gnome for Cygwin ?  
>Yes, I plan to..
>
>emre
>
>
>




From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com  Fri Apr 26 05:05:00 2002
From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bkarnd))
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 05:05:00 -0000
Subject: XKB not working
Message-ID: 

I'm very satisfied with this solution to get my belgian keyboard working:

 xkbcomp -xkm -m be /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/be.xkm

 XWin +kb -xkbmap be -auth "$HOME/.Xauthority" -emulate3buttons 

-----Original Message-----
From: Edmund Urbani [mailto:emu@emu.no-ip.org]
Sent: donderdag 25 april 2002 19:13
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: XKB not working



Hi!

Yesterday i installed cygwin with XFree 4.2.0. Everything worked fine
from the start except that I could not set it up for my german keyboard
layout. All I get, when I try to use eg. setxkbmap is a popup window
(outside the X server as a normal Win2000-window) with this error
message:

Failed assertion
fds_on_hold !=NULL
at line 643 of file
/cygnus/netrel/src/cygwin-1.3.10-1/winsup/cygwin/dtable.cc

Other tools using XKB (like Kde Control Center) cause the same error.

I found an earlier post from Charles L. Werner on this list, who appears
to have (had?) the same problem, but there does not seem to be a helpful
reply to that one.
As a workaround I am currently using xmodmap in the X server's startup
scripts, but I would really prefer to use XKB instead.

So, any ideas what might be wrong with my X server? What is this
fds_on_hold variable and that dtable.cc file all about, anyway?

 Edmund



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From geert.pille@vandemoortele.com  Fri Apr 26 05:05:00 2002
From: geert.pille@vandemoortele.com (Pille Geert (bkarnd))
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 05:05:00 -0000
Subject: keyboard problem starting XFree86
Message-ID: 

peut-?tre comme ci-dessous?  (clavier belge)

 xkbcomp -xkm -m be /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/be.xkm

 XWin +kb -xkbmap be -auth "$HOME/.Xauthority" -emulate3buttons 

bonne chance

-----Original Message-----
From: jerome bauwens [mailto:jerome.bauwens@steria.com]
Sent: donderdag 25 april 2002 15:37
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: keyboard problem starting XFree86


I installed cygwin/xfree86 on windows 2000 to have a x-server (with the
default selection of packages and the packages from xfree/binaries/4.2.0)
The cygwin environment runs fine but the x-environment (using startx) has an
american keyboard (I use a french keyboard).
Could you tell me how to get my keyboard to work fine under the
x-environment.

Thanks.

Jerome BAUWENS.
jerome.bauwens@steria.com



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From cw@gamma-rs.ch  Fri Apr 26 05:12:00 2002
From: cw@gamma-rs.ch (Charles L. Werner)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 05:12:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin-xfree  performance using 127.0.0.1:0.0  vs computer_ip:0.0
Message-ID: <3CC94254.7040800@gamma-rs.ch>

Greetings,

I have noticed a significant speed penelty (factors of 2 to 10) when 
using 127.0.0.1 (localhost) versus my machines assigned IP
with cygwiw-xfree. This has been tested and verified for NT-4 SP5 and 
Win2K (SP2) on different PCs.

Any explanation?
remedy?

Cheers

Charles



From huntharo@msu.edu  Fri Apr 26 06:54:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 06:54:00 -0000
Subject: KDE 3.0 icons
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Scott,

Drop your Windows screen depth from 32 bits per pixel to 24 or 16 bits per
pixel.

We're trying to work with the KDE folks to find out why thre is suddenly a
problem, but we've heard nothing from them so far.

Here is the KDE bug report status:
http://bugs.kde.org/db/40/40875.html


Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Scott Alexander
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 6:12 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: KDE 3.0 icons
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Im not sure if this is a XFree86 problem or not.  I use the command
>
> x -query 
>
> to hook up to a linux server so I can use kde via xfree86 and
> cygwin.  This
> has been working great for me with the server running Redhat 7.2 and KDE
> 2.2.2,  however the server has just been updated to KDE 3.0 and now all my
> icons have disapeared.
>
> Does anyone know a solution/workaround for this or experienced it yet?
>
> Cheers.
> Scott Alexander
>


From peter.kovacs@sysdata.siemens.hu  Fri Apr 26 07:43:00 2002
From: peter.kovacs@sysdata.siemens.hu (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Kov=E1cs_P=E9ter?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 07:43:00 -0000
Subject: CDE problem with Solaris 8
Message-ID: <000601c1ed29$b387d470$5dedca95@sysdata.siemens.hu>

Hi,

I am trying to connect to our Solaris 8 server with the following command to
no avail (the X server seems to restart over and over again):

/usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -noreset -ac -screen 0 1024 768 -query 158.226.199.9
-from 149.202.237.93 -fp tcp/158.226.199.9:7100&

(I can successfully connect with Exceed to the seem machine using CDE login.
With the same Cygwin setup I am also able to successfully use CDE with a
Solaris 2.6 server.)

For the Solaris 8 server, Xwin outputs the following log

ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 13 i: 3
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits per
pixel
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winWindowProc () - Closekey hit, quitting

Any idea?

Thank you

Peter


From emu@emu.no-ip.org  Fri Apr 26 08:35:00 2002
From: emu@emu.no-ip.org (Edmund Urbani)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 08:35:00 -0000
Subject: XKB not working
References: 
Message-ID: <3CC967E9.53415F3D@emu.no-ip.org>


"Pille Geert (bkarnd)" wrote:

> I'm very satisfied with this solution to get my belgian keyboard working:
>
>  xkbcomp -xkm -m be /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/be.xkm
>
>  XWin +kb -xkbmap be -auth "$HOME/.Xauthority" -emulate3buttons
>

Thanks a lot. That works perfectly fine for me too.

 Edmund


From huntharo@pilot.msu.edu  Fri Apr 26 09:26:00 2002
From: huntharo@pilot.msu.edu (Harold Leatherman Hunt II)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:26:00 -0000
Subject: CDE problem with Solaris 8
In-Reply-To: <000601c1ed29$b387d470$5dedca95@sysdata.siemens.hu> from "=?iso-8859-2?Q?Kov=E1cs_P=E9ter?=" at Apr 26, 2002 03:53:10 pm
Message-ID: <200204261533.g3QFXfn37204@pilot24.cl.msu.edu>

Peter,

To rule out any problems with bash... please use a modified startxwin.bat
(which you should have in /usr/X11R6/bin if you installed the startup-scripts
package as per the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide installation instructions).

You should only have to change the line:
start /B XWin ...

to:
start /B XWin -query 158.226.199.9 -fp tcp/158.226.199.9:7100

Note: do not use the -screen 0 1024 768 parameter, and to start with do not
use the -noreset and -ac parameters.

It seems that the X Server is trying to create about 10 screens, as it
initializes several of them without ever closing any of them.  So, it isn't
really reseting, it's just spawning tons of screens.

Also, please make sure that Exceed is not running *at all* when you are trying
to run Cygwin/XFree86, as they both try to listen on the same network port, so
this will obviously cause problems.

Also, please reboot your Windows machine before experimenting, as we've had at
least one user report troubles only to realize that he had several failed
XWin.exe processes still running, thus preventing new processes from running
correctly.

Let us know what happens,

Harold


>
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to connect to our Solaris 8 server with the following command to
> no avail (the X server seems to restart over and over again):
>
> /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -noreset -ac -screen 0 1024 768 -query 158.226.199.9
> -from 149.202.237.93 -fp tcp/158.226.199.9:7100&
>
> (I can successfully connect with Exceed to the seem machine using CDE login.
> With the same Cygwin setup I am also able to successfully use CDE with a
> Solaris 2.6 server.)
>
> For the Solaris 8 server, Xwin outputs the following log
>
> ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
> winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
> ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 13 i: 3
> _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits per
> pixel
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
> 742 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
> 742 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
> 742 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
> 742 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
> 742 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
> 742 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
> 742 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
> 742 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
> 742 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
> 742 t 0
> winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
> winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> winRandRInit ()
> winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> winScreenInit () - returning
> winWindowProc () - Closekey hit, quitting
>
> Any idea?
>
> Thank you
>
> Peter
>
>


From peter.kovacs@sysdata.siemens.hu  Fri Apr 26 09:39:00 2002
From: peter.kovacs@sysdata.siemens.hu (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Kov=E1cs_P=E9ter?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:39:00 -0000
Subject: CDE problem with Solaris 8
References: <200204261533.g3QFXfn37204@pilot24.cl.msu.edu>
Message-ID: <000501c1ed3f$0d8e59c0$5dedca95@sysdata.siemens.hu>

Hi,

I am trying to connect to our Solaris 8 server with the following command to
no avail (the X server seems to restart over and over again):

/usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -noreset -ac -screen 0 1024 768 -query 158.226.199.9
-from 149.202.237.93 -fp tcp/158.226.199.9:7100&

(I can successfully connect with Exceed to the seem machine using CDE login.
With the same Cygwin setup I am also able to successfully use CDE with a
Solaris 2.6 server.)

For the Solaris 8 server, Xwin outputs the following log

ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 13 i: 3
_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits per
pixel
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l 0 b
742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winWindowProc () - Closekey hit, quitting

Any idea?

Thank you

Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Leatherman Hunt II" 
To: ; 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: CDE problem with Solaris 8


> Peter,
>
> To rule out any problems with bash... please use a modified startxwin.bat
> (which you should have in /usr/X11R6/bin if you installed the
startup-scripts
> package as per the Cygwin/XFree86 User's Guide installation instructions).
>
> You should only have to change the line:
> start /B XWin ...
>
> to:
> start /B XWin -query 158.226.199.9 -fp tcp/158.226.199.9:7100
>
> Note: do not use the -screen 0 1024 768 parameter, and to start with do
not
> use the -noreset and -ac parameters.
>
> It seems that the X Server is trying to create about 10 screens, as it
> initializes several of them without ever closing any of them.  So, it
isn't
> really reseting, it's just spawning tons of screens.
>
> Also, please make sure that Exceed is not running *at all* when you are
trying
> to run Cygwin/XFree86, as they both try to listen on the same network
port, so
> this will obviously cause problems.
>
> Also, please reboot your Windows machine before experimenting, as we've
had at
> least one user report troubles only to realize that he had several failed
> XWin.exe processes still running, thus preventing new processes from
running
> correctly.
>
> Let us know what happens,
>
> Harold
>
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am trying to connect to our Solaris 8 server with the following
command to
> > no avail (the X server seems to restart over and over again):
> >
> > /usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -noreset -ac -screen 0 1024 768 -query 158.226.199.9
> > -from 149.202.237.93 -fp tcp/158.226.199.9:7100&
> >
> > (I can successfully connect with Exceed to the seem machine using CDE
login.
> > With the same Cygwin setup I am also able to successfully use CDE with a
> > Solaris 2.6 server.)
> >
> > For the Solaris 8 server, Xwin outputs the following log
> >
> > ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
> > winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
> > ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 13 i: 3
> > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> > winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits
per
> > pixel
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b
> > 742 t 0
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b
> > 742 t 0
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b
> > 742 t 0
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b
> > 742 t 0
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b
> > 742 t 0
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b
> > 742 t 0
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b
> > 742 t 0
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b
> > 742 t 0
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b
> > 742 t 0
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
> > winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
> > winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
> > winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b
> > 742 t 0
> > winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
> > winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
> > winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
> > winRandRInit ()
> > winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
> > winScreenInit () - returning
> > winWindowProc () - Closekey hit, quitting
> >
> > Any idea?
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
>


From peter.kovacs@sysdata.siemens.hu  Fri Apr 26 09:46:00 2002
From: peter.kovacs@sysdata.siemens.hu (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Kov=E1cs_P=E9ter?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:46:00 -0000
Subject: CDE problem with Solaris 8
References: <200204261533.g3QFXfn37204@pilot24.cl.msu.edu>
Message-ID: <001201c1ed40$e5058a80$5dedca95@sysdata.siemens.hu>

Harold,

Thank you for your reply. I tried what you suggested and observed a
similar behaviour as previously. As much as I can tell the XWin.log is
also very similar except for the AUDIT entries:

ddxProcessArgument () - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens () - w 1024 h 768
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits
per pixel
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b 742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
AUDIT: Fri Apr 26 17:55:43 2002: 248 XWin: client 1 rejected from IP
127.0.0.1 port 3598
AUDIT: Fri Apr 26 17:55:43 2002: 248 XWin: client 2 rejected from IP
127.0.0.1 port 3599
AUDIT: Fri Apr 26 17:55:43 2002: 248 XWin: client 1 rejected from IP
127.0.0.1 port 3600
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b 742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000
winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD
winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b
winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 768 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
winAdjustForAutoHide - Found TOP auto-hide taskbar
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 1 0 768 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1018 h 742 r 1018 l
0 b 742 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () -  Returning
winInitVisualsShadowDD () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d
24
winLayerCreate () - dwDepth 24
winRandRInit ()
winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winScreenInit () - returning

Any more tips?

Thank you.

Peter


From peter.kovacs@sysdata.siemens.hu  Fri Apr 26 13:56:00 2002
From: peter.kovacs@sysdata.siemens.hu (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Kov=E1cs_P=E9ter?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 13:56:00 -0000
Subject: Mail problem
Message-ID: <000b01c1ed41$d8195300$5dedca95@sysdata.siemens.hu>

Hi,

Sorry for this being very far off topic but I keep getting this kind of
error messages (see below) in response to my mails when I try to send them
from Outlook. This is despite the fact that I think I am sending TEXT-format
messages. I have to switch between Outlook (for receiving) and Outlook
Express (for sending) the latter not producing this kind of error. (I have
never had this kind of problem with Outlook with any other mailing lists
bevor.)

Please, could someone tell me what to do?

Thank you

Peter


Hi. This is the qmail-send program at sources.redhat.com.

I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.

This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

:

ezmlm-reject: fatal: Sorry, a message part has an unacceptable MIME
Content-Type: text/html (#5.2.3)



From freeweb@nyckelpiga.de  Fri Apr 26 22:23:00 2002
From: freeweb@nyckelpiga.de (Gerrit P. Haase)
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 22:23:00 -0000
Subject: Error Installing imlib 1.9.14
In-Reply-To: <20020425235301.GD28862@redhat.com>
References: <20020425234813.85354.qmail@web14304.mail.yahoo.com>
 <20020425235301.GD28862@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1881257754945.20020426225538@familiehaase.de>

>>Thanks for your reply, Ive installed tiff-3.5.7.1 and
>>tried to install imlib again, and now receive this
>>error
>>
>>checking for jpeg_destroy_decompress in -ljpeg... yes
>>checking for jpeglib.h... yes
>>checking for TIFFReadScanline in -ltiff... yes
>>checking for tiffio.h... (cached) no
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>configure: error: *** TIFF header files not found ***

Remove config.cache and reconfigure.
And make sure that tiffio.h is in place.


Gerrit
-- 
=^..^=


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sat Apr 27 01:53:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 01:53:00 -0000
Subject: "F1" binding on twm failed.
In-Reply-To: <3CC7CD1C.9020200@one2team.com>
Message-ID: 

Christian,

This question is really off-topic for this mailing list.  twm is a window
manager that is included with several X distributions, including XFree86.
Abundant documentation exists for twm from twm-specific sources.

On Google I found tons of twm resources, such as the man page and some
sample .twmrc files:
http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/X11R6.1/man/programs/twm.html
http://physics.wm.edu/unix_intro/loginmht/twmrc.html
http://www.strath.ac.uk/CC/Courses/oldXC/subsection3_9_2.html


I was able to get the iconify function mapped to F1 like so:
cp /etc/X11/twm/system.twmrc ~/.twmrc

Then, I edited ~/.twmrc with emacs and added the line that you had to the
end of the file.  I started up Cygwin/XFree86 and the iconify function
worked correctly.  You have to be aware, however, that using f.iconify from
the keyboard is a little different than using the iconify function on the
twm menu.  When you press F1 the mouse cursor has to be over the root window
and the mouse cursor does not change to a black circle like it does with the
iconify menu command.  However, the next window title that you click on
(yes, it has to be the title) will get iconified.

So, the behavior is a little strange, but I can't tell you if this is
different than the way binding F1 to inconify would work on, say, Linux.


Good luck,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christian P. Momon
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 5:32 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: "F1" binding on twm failed.
>
>
>
>   Hi,
>
>   I am trying to configure my twmrc, so i add:
> "F1" =  : all : f.iconify
>
>   But, it doesnt work.
>
> I use Xfree86 4.2.0 with xwinclip-Test03.exe.bz2.
>
> Nothing in guide, archive and google. I need help.
>
>   Thanks.
>
>   Cpm.
> --
> Christian MOMON
> ONE2TEAM R&D
> cmomon@ONE2TEAM.com
>


From sam.edge@ntlworld.com  Sat Apr 27 20:17:00 2002
From: sam.edge@ntlworld.com (Sam Edge)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 20:17:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe package problem
Message-ID: <0bokcu4kvh73ffmi36s99rv5vkh2pgle8q@4ax.com>

I've just expunged a working /etc/X11 and /usr/X11R6 and used
SETUP.EXE to install XFree86 4.2.0 via setup.exe on a Windows 95
Cygwin installation.

Everything went well except that several symbolic links were missing
and I had to enter the following by hand;

ln -s /etc/X11/app-defaults /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults
ln -s /etc/X11/fs /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fs
ln -s /etc/X11/lbxproxy /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/lbxproxy
ln -s /etc/X11/proxymngr /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/proxymngr
ln -s /etc/X11/rstart /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rstart
ln -s /etc/X11/twm /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/twm
ln -s /etc/X11/xdm /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm
ln -s /etc/X11/xinit /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit
ln -s /etc/X11/xserver /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver
ln -s /etc/X11/xsm /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xsm

These are the directories that are more normally copied or links from
Xinstall.sh as the ETCDLINKS list.

Why not have either a post-install script or have the XFree86-base tar
archive contain them?

-- 
Sam Edge


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sat Apr 27 21:32:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 21:32:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe package problem
In-Reply-To: <0bokcu4kvh73ffmi36s99rv5vkh2pgle8q@4ax.com>
Message-ID: 

Sam,

That's because I screwed up when I modified Ian's build.sh script.  I forgot
to make the symbolic links part of the Xlib package... and I think I
accidentally made the Xetc package contain invalid links.  Oh well.  I fixed
it now, I think.

I put a new setup.ini and XFree86-lib-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2 at
ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/

Chris: What do I do to get the new XFree86-lib file onto the mirrors?  Do
you want to take care of that (in general), or should I be updating my
packages via ssh?  Would I have the necessary premissions for that?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Sam Edge
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 4:51 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe package problem
>
>
> I've just expunged a working /etc/X11 and /usr/X11R6 and used
> SETUP.EXE to install XFree86 4.2.0 via setup.exe on a Windows 95
> Cygwin installation.
>
> Everything went well except that several symbolic links were missing
> and I had to enter the following by hand;
>
> ln -s /etc/X11/app-defaults /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults
> ln -s /etc/X11/fs /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fs
> ln -s /etc/X11/lbxproxy /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/lbxproxy
> ln -s /etc/X11/proxymngr /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/proxymngr
> ln -s /etc/X11/rstart /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rstart
> ln -s /etc/X11/twm /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/twm
> ln -s /etc/X11/xdm /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm
> ln -s /etc/X11/xinit /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit
> ln -s /etc/X11/xserver /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver
> ln -s /etc/X11/xsm /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xsm
>
> These are the directories that are more normally copied or links from
> Xinstall.sh as the ETCDLINKS list.
>
> Why not have either a post-install script or have the XFree86-base tar
> archive contain them?
>
> --
> Sam Edge


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sat Apr 27 23:05:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 23:05:00 -0000
Subject: build.sh
In-Reply-To: <3CC89307.3050108@znark.com>
Message-ID: 

Ian,

ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/build.sh

Here's a link to my most recent modification of your build.sh for packaging
Cygwin/XFree86.  You might want to take a look at it... I think it's pretty
interesting.

I've been thinking that maybe a Makefile version of this might be more
useful, as it would prevent the rebuilding of packages that haven't had
their XFree86 package updated.

What are your thoughts on that one?

Others: feel free to chime in.

Harold


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Sun Apr 28 03:33:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 03:33:00 -0000
Subject: build.sh
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 2:33 PM

> I've been thinking that maybe a Makefile version of this 
> might be more useful, as it would prevent the rebuilding of 
> packages that haven't had their XFree86 package updated.

Makes sense to me.

Rob


From sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com  Sun Apr 28 07:31:00 2002
From: sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com (Sam Edge)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 07:31:00 -0000
Subject: Cygwin/XFree86 setup.exe package problem
In-Reply-To: 
References: <0bokcu4kvh73ffmi36s99rv5vkh2pgle8q@4ax.com> 
Message-ID: 

You wrote in 
in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Sat, 27 Apr 2002 23:17:07 -0400:

> That's because I screwed up when I modified Ian's build.sh script.  I forgot
> to make the symbolic links part of the Xlib package... and I think I
> accidentally made the Xetc package contain invalid links.  Oh well.  I fixed
> it now, I think.

Anything that makes less work for me. Thanks. :-)

(All five symbolic links under /etc/X11 seem to be valid, by the way.)

-- 
Sam Edge


From lukekendall@optushome.com.au  Sun Apr 28 07:38:00 2002
From: lukekendall@optushome.com.au (lukekendall@optushome.com.au)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 07:38:00 -0000
Subject: A small contribution
Message-ID: <200204281431.g3SEVJ910599@posh.localdomain>

I read through the contributors guide, but couldn't find any mention of
how to contribute a binary port of a utility.  So after considerable
hunting around the web site, trying to find out how to make such a
contribution, I found the above vaguely-likely address.

If that's wrong, could someone be kind enough to forward this on to the
relevant person?

The contribution is simply a build of the Window Maker window manager
(http://www.windowmaker.org/) for Cygwin/Xfree86.  It's linked to from
a write-up on setting up your X on Windows, and using it to display
parts of your Unix desktop on your windows machine, at:
http://members.optushome.com.au/lukekendall/xwin-network.html

My initial (5MB) binary package for Window Maker is
http://members.optushome.com.au/lukekendall/bins/wmaker-0.80.0-cygwin.tar.gz
(I'm going to try it out at work in a few days on a "cold"
installation, and see if I managed to collect all the components
together properly.)

Please let me know if *any* of this is useful.  Personally I think one
thing that might be holding back Cygwin-Xfree86's usefulness is the very
primitive twm window manager that comes as the default with the
installation.

Would a better place for extra binaries (for a judicious assortment of
a few window managers), be
ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/xfree/binaries/4.2.0/ ?
I have limited space on my web site, so the 5MB WM package, above, is
stretching it a bit.

Oh, and so this isn't entirely off the proper topic:  the link for
Sergey Orkhapin on the page http://cygwin.com/xfree/ is borken:
http://miracle.geol.msu.ru/sos/ doesn't exist.

luke


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Sun Apr 28 11:14:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 11:14:00 -0000
Subject: A small contribution
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: lukekendall@optushome.com.au 
> [mailto:lukekendall@optushome.com.au] 
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:31 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Cc: Luke at work
> Subject: A small contribution
> 
> 
> I read through the contributors guide, but couldn't find any 
> mention of how to contribute a binary port of a utility.  So 
> after considerable hunting around the web site, trying to 
> find out how to make such a contribution, I found the above 
> vaguely-likely address.

Have a look at http://www.cygwin.com/setup.html.
 
Cheers,
Rob


From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Apr 28 17:03:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 17:03:00 -0000
Subject: A small contribution
In-Reply-To: <200204281431.g3SEVJ910599@posh.localdomain>
Message-ID: 

Luke,

> Oh, and so this isn't entirely off the proper topic:  the link for
> Sergey Orkhapin on the page http://cygwin.com/xfree/ is borken:
> http://miracle.geol.msu.ru/sos/ doesn't exist.

Okay, I removed the link.  That was pretty much the only option since
searching Google for the roman spelling of his name (he's Russian) only
produced the link to that page, which as you said is no longer existent.  I
couldn't find him listed anywhere on Moscow State University's Geology site,
so I'll just have to assume that he's moved on...

> My initial (5MB) binary package for Window Maker is
> http://members.optushome.com.au/lukekendall/bins/wmaker-0.80.0-cyg
> win.tar.gz

I've put this package on the mirror network.  It should should up within 24
hours.  The directory is xfree/contrib/, so a sample URL would be:
http://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/xfree/contrib/wmaker-0.80.0-cyg
win.tar.gz

I've also added Window Maker to the Ported Software page:
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ported-software.html


Hope that helps,

Harold


From thesnake1978@yahoo.com  Sun Apr 28 17:26:00 2002
From: thesnake1978@yahoo.com (Peter None)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 17:26:00 -0000
Subject: Error Installing imlib 1.9.14
In-Reply-To: <1881257754945.20020426225538@familiehaase.de>
Message-ID: <20020429000312.36086.qmail@web14306.mail.yahoo.com>

Gerrit, your suggestions fixed my problem, thanks!
Although now I get an error during the compile process
and Im unsure why ?? Any ideas ?
Thank You

libtool: link: warning: undefined symbols not allowed
in i686-pc-cygwin shared l
ibraries
rm -fr .libs/libimlib-gif.la .libs/libimlib-gif.*
.libs/libimlib-gif.*
ar cru .libs/libimlib-gif.a  io-gif.o
ranlib .libs/libimlib-gif.a
creating libimlib-gif.la
(cd .libs && rm -f libimlib-gif.la && ln -s
../libimlib-gif.la libimlib-gif.la)
cd .libs && PREFIX=/opt/gnome sh ../../mkdll.sh
libimlib-gif.la -L/usr/local/lib
 -lungif -L. -lgdk_imlib $(gtk-config --libs)
gcc -shared -o cygimlib-gif.dll
-Wl,--out-implib=libimlib-gif.dll.a -Wl,--export
-all-symbols -Wl,--whole-archive libimlib-gif.a
-Wl,--no-whole-archive -L/usr/lo
cal/lib -lungif -L. -lgdk_imlib -L/opt/gnome/lib
-L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -l
gmodule -lglib -lintl -lXext -lX11
Creating library file: libimlib-gif.dll.a
libimlib-gif.a(io-gif.o.b)(.text+0x146):io-gif.c:
undefined reference to `_gdk_m
alloc_image'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [libimlib-gif.la] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/gnome/build/imlib-1.9.14/gdk_imlib'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/gnome/build/imlib-1.9.14'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2




--- "Gerrit P. Haase"  wrote:
> >>Thanks for your reply, Ive installed tiff-3.5.7.1
> and
> >>tried to install imlib again, and now receive this
> >>error
> >>
> >>checking for jpeg_destroy_decompress in -ljpeg...
> yes
> >>checking for jpeglib.h... yes
> >>checking for TIFFReadScanline in -ltiff... yes
> >>checking for tiffio.h... (cached) no
>                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >>configure: error: *** TIFF header files not found
> ***
> 
> Remove config.cache and reconfigure.
> And make sure that tiffio.h is in place.
> 
> 
> Gerrit
> -- 
> =^..^=
> 


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Apr 28 18:10:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 18:10:00 -0000
Subject: Error Installing imlib 1.9.14
In-Reply-To: <20020429000312.36086.qmail@web14306.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

Peter,

In this command,
> gcc -shared -o cygimlib-gif.dll
> -Wl,--out-implib=libimlib-gif.dll.a -Wl,--export
> -all-symbols -Wl,--whole-archive libimlib-gif.a
> -Wl,--no-whole-archive -L/usr/lo
> cal/lib -lungif -L. -lgdk_imlib -L/opt/gnome/lib
> -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -l
> gmodule -lglib -lintl -lXext -lX11

you are getting the error,
> undefined reference to `_gdk_m
> alloc_image'

which means that you have to move the -lgdk or -lgdk_imlib so that it
appears in the link sequence after all libraries that depend on it.

The reason for this is simple: the list of things to link is walked from
left to right creating a list of references, which are checked against the
remaining libraries on the list that might have those symbols defined.  At
no point does the linker say, "Ah ha, I've got a symbol here that is
undefined, let me go back and check the list of things to link for this
symbol".  That would result in ridiculus link times.  Move the gdk or
gdk_imlib libs towards the end of the list (experiment with this) and the
linker will be happy.


Now, you can gain some additional insight by figuring out which library or
object file contains io-gif.c, as this file has the undefined reference to
_gdk_malloc_image.  Then find out which library contains gdk_malloc_image
(probably gdk or gdk_imlib).  Then move the corresponding library later in
the list.

There is one other possibility: the version of imlib-gif that you are trying
to build depends on a newer (or older) version of gdk or gdk-imlib that
contains gdk_malloc_image, while your version of gdk or gdk_imlib does not
have that symbol.  Look into this and report.


Harold


From redhatcat@fastdial.net  Sun Apr 28 19:20:00 2002
From: redhatcat@fastdial.net (redhatcat)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 19:20:00 -0000
Subject: fyi - another choice : openbox works on cygwin/xfree86. 
Message-ID: <002201c1ef1a$b69bb350$1608f3d8@americas.cpqcorp.net>

fyi - another choice : openbox works on cygwin/xfree86.  The "stable code"
complied out of the box for me.  ( Blackbox derivative)

http://openbox.sunsite.dk/





From huntharo@msu.edu  Sun Apr 28 21:06:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 21:06:00 -0000
Subject: fyi - another choice : openbox works on cygwin/xfree86. 
In-Reply-To: <002201c1ef1a$b69bb350$1608f3d8@americas.cpqcorp.net>
Message-ID: 

I just made a Cygwin setup.exe package (and accompanying setup.ini) for
this.  Could somebody please point setup.exe at this site and verify that it
works for them (works for me):
ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/openbox/

Heh... that was pretty easy.

I haven't quite mastered making a source package yet... that will come later
(it's finals week).

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of redhatcat
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 9:11 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: fyi - another choice : openbox works on cygwin/xfree86.
>
>
> fyi - another choice : openbox works on cygwin/xfree86.  The "stable code"
> complied out of the box for me.  ( Blackbox derivative)
>
> http://openbox.sunsite.dk/
>
>
>
>


From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr 29 01:58:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 01:58:00 -0000
Subject: cygwin/xfree86 setup.exe package problem
In-Reply-To: 
References: <0bokcu4kvh73ffmi36s99rv5vkh2pgle8q@4ax.com> 
Message-ID: <20020429040608.GA28200@redhat.com>

On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 11:17:07PM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>Chris: What do I do to get the new XFree86-lib file onto the mirrors?  Do
>you want to take care of that (in general), or should I be updating my
>packages via ssh?  Would I have the necessary premissions for that?

You have the permissions to update yourself, Harold.  The directory in
question is /sourceware/ftp/anonftp/pub/cygwin/release/XFree86/ .

Go for it!

cgf


From strube@physik3.gwdg.de  Mon Apr 29 07:30:00 2002
From: strube@physik3.gwdg.de (Hans Werner Strube)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 07:30:00 -0000
Subject: XKB not working
Message-ID: <200204290857.KAA27545@r2d2.physik3.gwdg.de>

> From: Edmund Urbani 
>
> "Pille Geert (bkarnd)" wrote:
> 
> > I'm very satisfied with this solution to get my belgian keyboard working:
> >
> >  xkbcomp -xkm -m be /etc/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/be.xkm
> >
> >  XWin +kb -xkbmap be -auth "$HOME/.Xauthority" -emulate3buttons
> >
> 
> Thanks a lot. That works perfectly fine for me too.

This also works for German (de instead of be), although xkbcomp issued
many warnings about missing keycodes (possibly due to the laptop keyboard,
having less keys). But how can one make de.xkm the default, without
having to specify -xkbmap de each time? According to /etc/X11/xkm/README,
I tried copying de.xkm to /etc/X11/xkb/X0-default.xkm or
/etc/X11/xkb/compiled/X0-default.xkm, but without success. (Of course, I first
made the missing symlink /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb -> /etc/X11/xkb, removed the
looping symlink /etc/X11/xkb/compiled and made this a real directory.)


From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Mon Apr 29 07:31:00 2002
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 07:31:00 -0000
Subject: XWin -help behavior
Message-ID: 

I just noticed today that if I run "XWin -help", I don't see anything at the 
command-line.  I have to go look in /tmp/XWin.log to see the results.

Would it make send to print this information to STERR instead of the log 
file?


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 07:40:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 07:40:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox setup.exe packages available for testing
Message-ID: 

Point setup.exe at:
ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/

There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86 packages plus
WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.

I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do an install on
there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.

Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the generic Cygwin
build script), so each of these new packages has a source file as well (if
you wish to see what was changed to make them compile on Cygwin).

Enjoy,

Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 07:41:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 07:41:00 -0000
Subject: XWin -help behavior
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Thomas,

Yes, that's a great idea.  There is one problem though.  We redirect the
ErrorF function (which prints out all messages, including the --help
message) before we know that a --help parameter is coming down the line.
When the --help is processed is calls a UseMsg function that then calls a
module-UseMsg function for each part of the XFree86 server.  By the time
that ddxUseMsg (that's the hardware layer's (our's) UseMsg function) gets
called we have already printed out 90% of the help text, so there is very
little point in redirecting our portion of the help message to STDERR.

The solution lies in creating an overly-complicated ErrorF system that
buffers the output until we have processed all command-line parameters.  I
don't have time to do that, do you?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Chadwick
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:31 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: XWin -help behavior
>
>
> I just noticed today that if I run "XWin -help", I don't see
> anything at the
> command-line.  I have to go look in /tmp/XWin.log to see the results.
>
> Would it make send to print this information to STERR instead of the log
> file?
>
>
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From sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com  Mon Apr 29 07:44:00 2002
From: sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com (Sam Edge)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 07:44:00 -0000
Subject: XWin -help behavior
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <0jmqcuk95gujm3eo3ffcvvrvn086eq3v01@4ax.com>

Thomas Chadwick wrote in 
in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Mon, 29 Apr 2002 10:30:40 -0400:

> I just noticed today that if I run "XWin -help", I don't see anything at the 
> command-line.  I have to go look in /tmp/XWin.log to see the results.
> Would it make send to print this information to STERR instead of the log 
> file?

XWin.exe is linked as a Windows GUI application to stop it requiring
the creation of a console window so it doesn't have redirectable
standard I/O.

-- 
Sam Edge


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 07:48:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 07:48:00 -0000
Subject: XWin -help behavior
In-Reply-To: <0jmqcuk95gujm3eo3ffcvvrvn086eq3v01@4ax.com>
Message-ID: 

Sam,

Thanks, I forgot that point.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Sam Edge
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:40 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: XWin -help behavior
> 
> 
> Thomas Chadwick wrote in 
> in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Mon, 29 Apr 2002 10:30:40 -0400:
> 
> > I just noticed today that if I run "XWin -help", I don't see 
> anything at the 
> > command-line.  I have to go look in /tmp/XWin.log to see the results.
> > Would it make send to print this information to STERR instead 
> of the log 
> > file?
> 
> XWin.exe is linked as a Windows GUI application to stop it requiring
> the creation of a console window so it doesn't have redirectable
> standard I/O.
> 
> -- 
> Sam Edge


From rrdrake@sandia.gov  Mon Apr 29 08:04:00 2002
From: rrdrake@sandia.gov (Richard Drake)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:04:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox
 setup.exepackages available for testing
References: 
Message-ID: <3CCD5D36.4DBC9599@sandia.gov>

Harold,

I tried pointing setup.exe to ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to connect and then comes back with "Unable to get setup.ini from ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/".  I'm a relative newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see that directory with my browser).

-rich

PS:  Love the cygwin & cygwin/xfree products!


Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> Point setup.exe at:
> ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> 
> There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86 packages plus
> WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
> 
> I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do an install on
> there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
> 
> Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the generic Cygwin
> build script), so each of these new packages has a source file as well (if
> you wish to see what was changed to make them compile on Cygwin).
> 
> Enjoy,
> 
> Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 08:20:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:20:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox setup.exepackages available for testing
In-Reply-To: <3CCD5D36.4DBC9599@sandia.gov>
Message-ID: 

Richard,

Hmm... you mention that you can see the directory with your browser... that
means that your browser has a connection open to my ftp server... and I'm
not sure how many connections my server allows per host.  Thus, you may want
to close your browser, wait a few minutes, then open setup.exe and try to
connect again (without opening your web browser to that address).  That may
help...

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:48 AM
> To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox
> setup.exepackages available for testing
>
>
> Harold,
>
> I tried pointing setup.exe to
> ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to connect
> and then comes back with "Unable to get setup.ini from
> ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/".  I'm a relative
> newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see that
> directory with my browser).
>
> -rich
>
> PS:  Love the cygwin & cygwin/xfree products!
>
>
> Harold Hunt wrote:
> >
> > Point setup.exe at:
> > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> >
> > There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86 packages plus
> > WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
> >
> > I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do an
> install on
> > there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
> >
> > Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the
> generic Cygwin
> > build script), so each of these new packages has a source file
> as well (if
> > you wish to see what was changed to make them compile on Cygwin).
> >
> > Enjoy,
> >
> > Harold
>


From rrdrake@sandia.gov  Mon Apr 29 08:28:00 2002
From: rrdrake@sandia.gov (Richard Drake)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:28:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
 Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
References: 
Message-ID: <3CCD64BC.46472A22@sandia.gov>

Harold,

still no luck.  we need another data point to isolate the problem .. somebody else needs to try to point setup.exe to that location...

-rich

Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> Richard,
> 
> Hmm... you mention that you can see the directory with your browser... that
> means that your browser has a connection open to my ftp server... and I'm
> not sure how many connections my server allows per host.  Thus, you may want
> to close your browser, wait a few minutes, then open setup.exe and try to
> connect again (without opening your web browser to that address).  That may
> help...
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:48 AM
> > To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox
> > setup.exepackages available for testing
> >
> >
> > Harold,
> >
> > I tried pointing setup.exe to
> > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to connect
> > and then comes back with "Unable to get setup.ini from
> > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/".  I'm a relative
> > newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see that
> > directory with my browser).
> >
> > -rich
> >
> > PS:  Love the cygwin & cygwin/xfree products!
> >
> >
> > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > >
> > > Point setup.exe at:
> > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> > >
> > > There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86 packages plus
> > > WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
> > >
> > > I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do an
> > install on
> > > there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
> > >
> > > Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the
> > generic Cygwin
> > > build script), so each of these new packages has a source file
> > as well (if
> > > you wish to see what was changed to make them compile on Cygwin).
> > >
> > > Enjoy,
> > >
> > > Harold
> >


From salexander@taz.qinetiq.com  Mon Apr 29 08:31:00 2002
From: salexander@taz.qinetiq.com (Scott Alexander)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:31:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
References:  <3CCD64BC.46472A22@sandia.gov>
Message-ID: <002101c1ef93$246a9400$2153b80a@gooshy>

Just pointed my setup.exe to Harold's ftp server and I get no response from
it.  I can access it from ncftp and get

ncftp / > ls
pub/

ncftp /pub > ls
cygwin/  mth496/

ncftp /pub/cygwin > ls
Xbin.tgz                  Xfsrv.tgz                 Xps.tgz
Xdoc.tgz                  Xhtml.tgz                 Xvfb.tgz
Xetc.tgz                  Xjdoc.tgz                 Xxserv.tgz
Xf100.tgz                 Xlib.tgz                  build.sh
Xfcyr.tgz                 Xman.tgz                  move.sh
Xfenc.tgz                 Xnest.tgz                 release/
Xfnts.tgz                 Xprog.tgz                 setup.ini
Xfscl.tgz                 Xprt.tgz                  startup-scripts.tgz

Cheers
Scott Alexander
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Drake" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing


> Harold,
>
> still no luck.  we need another data point to isolate the problem ..
somebody else needs to try to point setup.exe to that location...
>
> -rich
>
> Harold Hunt wrote:
> >
> > Richard,
> >
> > Hmm... you mention that you can see the directory with your browser...
that
> > means that your browser has a connection open to my ftp server... and
I'm
> > not sure how many connections my server allows per host.  Thus, you may
want
> > to close your browser, wait a few minutes, then open setup.exe and try
to
> > connect again (without opening your web browser to that address).  That
may
> > help...
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:48 AM
> > > To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox
> > > setup.exepackages available for testing
> > >
> > >
> > > Harold,
> > >
> > > I tried pointing setup.exe to
> > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to connect
> > > and then comes back with "Unable to get setup.ini from
> > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/".  I'm a relative
> > > newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see that
> > > directory with my browser).
> > >
> > > -rich
> > >
> > > PS:  Love the cygwin & cygwin/xfree products!
> > >
> > >
> > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Point setup.exe at:
> > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> > > >
> > > > There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86 packages plus
> > > > WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
> > > >
> > > > I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do an
> > > install on
> > > > there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
> > > >
> > > > Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the
> > > generic Cygwin
> > > > build script), so each of these new packages has a source file
> > > as well (if
> > > > you wish to see what was changed to make them compile on Cygwin).
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy,
> > > >
> > > > Harold
> > >
>


From j_tetazoo@hotmail.com  Mon Apr 29 08:31:00 2002
From: j_tetazoo@hotmail.com (Thomas Chadwick)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:31:00 -0000
Subject: XWin -help behavior
Message-ID: 

Aha.  I see now that "man XWin" and "man Xserver" are a preferable 
alternative to "Xwin -help" anyway.

>From: "Harold Hunt" 
>To: 
>Subject: RE: XWin -help behavior
>Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 10:44:36 -0400
>
>Sam,
>
>Thanks, I forgot that point.
>
>Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Sam Edge
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:40 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: XWin -help behavior
> >
> >
> > Thomas Chadwick wrote in 
> > in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Mon, 29 Apr 2002 10:30:40 -0400:
> >
> > > I just noticed today that if I run "XWin -help", I don't see
> > anything at the
> > > command-line.  I have to go look in /tmp/XWin.log to see the results.
> > > Would it make send to print this information to STERR instead
> > of the log
> > > file?
> >
> > XWin.exe is linked as a Windows GUI application to stop it requiring
> > the creation of a console window so it doesn't have redirectable
> > standard I/O.
> >
> > --
> > Sam Edge


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 08:42:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:42:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
In-Reply-To: <3CCD64BC.46472A22@sandia.gov>
Message-ID: 

Rich,

I was able to connect to huntharo-4 and grab setup.ini with setup.exe from
my other machine just fine.

Do you have a firewall or proxy server?  Have you told setup.exe to use your
proxy server?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:20 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
>
>
> Harold,
>
> still no luck.  we need another data point to isolate the problem
> .. somebody else needs to try to point setup.exe to that location...
>
> -rich
>
> Harold Hunt wrote:
> >
> > Richard,
> >
> > Hmm... you mention that you can see the directory with your
> browser... that
> > means that your browser has a connection open to my ftp
> server... and I'm
> > not sure how many connections my server allows per host.  Thus,
> you may want
> > to close your browser, wait a few minutes, then open setup.exe
> and try to
> > connect again (without opening your web browser to that
> address).  That may
> > help...
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:48 AM
> > > To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox
> > > setup.exepackages available for testing
> > >
> > >
> > > Harold,
> > >
> > > I tried pointing setup.exe to
> > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to connect
> > > and then comes back with "Unable to get setup.ini from
> > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/".  I'm a relative
> > > newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see that
> > > directory with my browser).
> > >
> > > -rich
> > >
> > > PS:  Love the cygwin & cygwin/xfree products!
> > >
> > >
> > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Point setup.exe at:
> > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> > > >
> > > > There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86 packages plus
> > > > WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
> > > >
> > > > I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do an
> > > install on
> > > > there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
> > > >
> > > > Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the
> > > generic Cygwin
> > > > build script), so each of these new packages has a source file
> > > as well (if
> > > > you wish to see what was changed to make them compile on Cygwin).
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy,
> > > >
> > > > Harold
> > >
>


From salexander@taz.qinetiq.com  Mon Apr 29 08:45:00 2002
From: salexander@taz.qinetiq.com (Scott Alexander)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:45:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
References: 
Message-ID: <007501c1ef94$bf68a8b0$2153b80a@gooshy>

Just muddled arround with my proxy settings and have connected and done the
update.

Scott.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: "Richard Drake" ; 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing


> Rich,
>
> I was able to connect to huntharo-4 and grab setup.ini with setup.exe from
> my other machine just fine.
>
> Do you have a firewall or proxy server?  Have you told setup.exe to use
your
> proxy server?
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:20 AM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> >
> >
> > Harold,
> >
> > still no luck.  we need another data point to isolate the problem
> > .. somebody else needs to try to point setup.exe to that location...
> >
> > -rich
> >
> > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > >
> > > Richard,
> > >
> > > Hmm... you mention that you can see the directory with your
> > browser... that
> > > means that your browser has a connection open to my ftp
> > server... and I'm
> > > not sure how many connections my server allows per host.  Thus,
> > you may want
> > > to close your browser, wait a few minutes, then open setup.exe
> > and try to
> > > connect again (without opening your web browser to that
> > address).  That may
> > > help...
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:48 AM
> > > > To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox
> > > > setup.exepackages available for testing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Harold,
> > > >
> > > > I tried pointing setup.exe to
> > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to connect
> > > > and then comes back with "Unable to get setup.ini from
> > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/".  I'm a relative
> > > > newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see that
> > > > directory with my browser).
> > > >
> > > > -rich
> > > >
> > > > PS:  Love the cygwin & cygwin/xfree products!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Point setup.exe at:
> > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86 packages plus
> > > > > WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do an
> > > > install on
> > > > > there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the
> > > > generic Cygwin
> > > > > build script), so each of these new packages has a source file
> > > > as well (if
> > > > > you wish to see what was changed to make them compile on Cygwin).
> > > > >
> > > > > Enjoy,
> > > > >
> > > > > Harold
> > > >
> >
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 08:46:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:46:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
In-Reply-To: <007501c1ef94$bf68a8b0$2153b80a@gooshy>
Message-ID: 

Scott,

So, does WindowMaker work?  Does Openbox work?  I need to know before I
release the packages into the wild...

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Scott Alexander
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:44 AM
> To: Harold Hunt; Richard Drake; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
>
>
> Just muddled arround with my proxy settings and have connected
> and done the
> update.
>
> Scott.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harold Hunt" 
> To: "Richard Drake" ; 
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:31 PM
> Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
>
>
> > Rich,
> >
> > I was able to connect to huntharo-4 and grab setup.ini with
> setup.exe from
> > my other machine just fine.
> >
> > Do you have a firewall or proxy server?  Have you told setup.exe to use
> your
> > proxy server?
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:20 AM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> > >
> > >
> > > Harold,
> > >
> > > still no luck.  we need another data point to isolate the problem
> > > .. somebody else needs to try to point setup.exe to that location...
> > >
> > > -rich
> > >
> > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Richard,
> > > >
> > > > Hmm... you mention that you can see the directory with your
> > > browser... that
> > > > means that your browser has a connection open to my ftp
> > > server... and I'm
> > > > not sure how many connections my server allows per host.  Thus,
> > > you may want
> > > > to close your browser, wait a few minutes, then open setup.exe
> > > and try to
> > > > connect again (without opening your web browser to that
> > > address).  That may
> > > > help...
> > > >
> > > > Harold
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:48 AM
> > > > > To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox
> > > > > setup.exepackages available for testing
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Harold,
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried pointing setup.exe to
> > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to connect
> > > > > and then comes back with "Unable to get setup.ini from
> > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/".  I'm a relative
> > > > > newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see that
> > > > > directory with my browser).
> > > > >
> > > > > -rich
> > > > >
> > > > > PS:  Love the cygwin & cygwin/xfree products!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Point setup.exe at:
> > > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86
> packages plus
> > > > > > WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do an
> > > > > install on
> > > > > > there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the
> > > > > generic Cygwin
> > > > > > build script), so each of these new packages has a source file
> > > > > as well (if
> > > > > > you wish to see what was changed to make them compile
> on Cygwin).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Enjoy,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harold
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>


From salexander@taz.qinetiq.com  Mon Apr 29 08:52:00 2002
From: salexander@taz.qinetiq.com (Scott Alexander)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:52:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
References:  <007501c1ef94$bf68a8b0$2153b80a@gooshy>
Message-ID: <007b01c1ef95$39b826e0$2153b80a@gooshy>

Well I have managed to connect its still trying to get the first file.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Alexander" 
To: "Harold Hunt" ; "Richard Drake" ;

Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing


> Just muddled arround with my proxy settings and have connected and done
the
> update.
>
> Scott.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harold Hunt" 
> To: "Richard Drake" ; 
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:31 PM
> Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
>
>
> > Rich,
> >
> > I was able to connect to huntharo-4 and grab setup.ini with setup.exe
from
> > my other machine just fine.
> >
> > Do you have a firewall or proxy server?  Have you told setup.exe to use
> your
> > proxy server?
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:20 AM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> > >
> > >
> > > Harold,
> > >
> > > still no luck.  we need another data point to isolate the problem
> > > .. somebody else needs to try to point setup.exe to that location...
> > >
> > > -rich
> > >
> > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Richard,
> > > >
> > > > Hmm... you mention that you can see the directory with your
> > > browser... that
> > > > means that your browser has a connection open to my ftp
> > > server... and I'm
> > > > not sure how many connections my server allows per host.  Thus,
> > > you may want
> > > > to close your browser, wait a few minutes, then open setup.exe
> > > and try to
> > > > connect again (without opening your web browser to that
> > > address).  That may
> > > > help...
> > > >
> > > > Harold
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:48 AM
> > > > > To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox
> > > > > setup.exepackages available for testing
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Harold,
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried pointing setup.exe to
> > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to connect
> > > > > and then comes back with "Unable to get setup.ini from
> > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/".  I'm a relative
> > > > > newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see that
> > > > > directory with my browser).
> > > > >
> > > > > -rich
> > > > >
> > > > > PS:  Love the cygwin & cygwin/xfree products!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Point setup.exe at:
> > > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86 packages
plus
> > > > > > WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do an
> > > > > install on
> > > > > > there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the
> > > > > generic Cygwin
> > > > > > build script), so each of these new packages has a source file
> > > > > as well (if
> > > > > > you wish to see what was changed to make them compile on
Cygwin).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Enjoy,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harold
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>


From salexander@taz.qinetiq.com  Mon Apr 29 09:09:00 2002
From: salexander@taz.qinetiq.com (Scott Alexander)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:09:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
References: 
Message-ID: <008b01c1ef96$15b04150$2153b80a@gooshy>

Harold,

I just got a message saying install incomplete try again?  Im not getting
any of the files, it can connect ok though and i see the packages available
but dont actually get the transfer started.  Could this be a read permission
on the directory or files?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:45 PM
Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing


> Scott,
>
> So, does WindowMaker work?  Does Openbox work?  I need to know before I
> release the packages into the wild...
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Scott Alexander
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:44 AM
> > To: Harold Hunt; Richard Drake; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> >
> >
> > Just muddled arround with my proxy settings and have connected
> > and done the
> > update.
> >
> > Scott.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Harold Hunt" 
> > To: "Richard Drake" ; 
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:31 PM
> > Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> >
> >
> > > Rich,
> > >
> > > I was able to connect to huntharo-4 and grab setup.ini with
> > setup.exe from
> > > my other machine just fine.
> > >
> > > Do you have a firewall or proxy server?  Have you told setup.exe to
use
> > your
> > > proxy server?
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:20 AM
> > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > > > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Harold,
> > > >
> > > > still no luck.  we need another data point to isolate the problem
> > > > .. somebody else needs to try to point setup.exe to that location...
> > > >
> > > > -rich
> > > >
> > > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard,
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmm... you mention that you can see the directory with your
> > > > browser... that
> > > > > means that your browser has a connection open to my ftp
> > > > server... and I'm
> > > > > not sure how many connections my server allows per host.  Thus,
> > > > you may want
> > > > > to close your browser, wait a few minutes, then open setup.exe
> > > > and try to
> > > > > connect again (without opening your web browser to that
> > > > address).  That may
> > > > > help...
> > > > >
> > > > > Harold
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:48 AM
> > > > > > To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
Openbox
> > > > > > setup.exepackages available for testing
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harold,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I tried pointing setup.exe to
> > > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to
connect
> > > > > > and then comes back with "Unable to get setup.ini from
> > > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/".  I'm a relative
> > > > > > newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see
that
> > > > > > directory with my browser).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -rich
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PS:  Love the cygwin & cygwin/xfree products!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Point setup.exe at:
> > > > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86
> > packages plus
> > > > > > > WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do
an
> > > > > > install on
> > > > > > > there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the
> > > > > > generic Cygwin
> > > > > > > build script), so each of these new packages has a source file
> > > > > > as well (if
> > > > > > > you wish to see what was changed to make them compile
> > on Cygwin).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Enjoy,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Harold
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


From goldin+@pitt.edu  Mon Apr 29 09:11:00 2002
From: goldin+@pitt.edu (Ilya Goldin)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:11:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox setup.exe packages available for testing
References: 
Message-ID: 

"Harold Hunt"  wrote in message
news:NHEELHJHHFKPMAEAFMFCGEEMCNAA.huntharo@msu.edu...
> Point setup.exe at:
> ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/


I'm now running Openbox. It looks great!

I had problems downloading from your site, Harold. You have newer XFree
packages (4.2.0-2 vs 4.2.0-1), but once I deselected those and downloaded
only Openbox, the download went fine.

I manually edited startxwin.bat to run openbox instead of twm (this should
probably be documented somewhere).

I don't know if it makes sense for setup to make it too easy to download a
whole bunch of different window managers (you don't really need more than 1,
right?). Perhaps there could be a base window manager much like there's a
base shell. But this is starting to look like a ridiculous can of worms.

--
-- Ilya Goldin   --
   Intelligent Systems Program
   Learning Research & Development Center
   University of Pittsburgh
   Pittsburgh, PA 15260-5159
   Office: LRDC 508, +1-412-624-7039
-----------------------------------------





From salexander@taz.qinetiq.com  Mon Apr 29 09:17:00 2002
From: salexander@taz.qinetiq.com (Scott Alexander)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:17:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
References: 
Message-ID: <009c01c1ef98$b6ec4710$2153b80a@gooshy>

Hi Harold,

Im not sure if you just changed the setup.ini, but setup just reported that
it was an older version that I was using and there were a few other packages
like swig.  These downloaded ok but the XFree stuff did not eg:

XFree86-fnts-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2
XFree86-lib-4.2.0-2.tar.bz2

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:45 PM
Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing


> Scott,
>
> So, does WindowMaker work?  Does Openbox work?  I need to know before I
> release the packages into the wild...
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Scott Alexander
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:44 AM
> > To: Harold Hunt; Richard Drake; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> >
> >
> > Just muddled arround with my proxy settings and have connected
> > and done the
> > update.
> >
> > Scott.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Harold Hunt" 
> > To: "Richard Drake" ; 
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:31 PM
> > Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> >
> >
> > > Rich,
> > >
> > > I was able to connect to huntharo-4 and grab setup.ini with
> > setup.exe from
> > > my other machine just fine.
> > >
> > > Do you have a firewall or proxy server?  Have you told setup.exe to
use
> > your
> > > proxy server?
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:20 AM
> > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > > > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Harold,
> > > >
> > > > still no luck.  we need another data point to isolate the problem
> > > > .. somebody else needs to try to point setup.exe to that location...
> > > >
> > > > -rich
> > > >
> > > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard,
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmm... you mention that you can see the directory with your
> > > > browser... that
> > > > > means that your browser has a connection open to my ftp
> > > > server... and I'm
> > > > > not sure how many connections my server allows per host.  Thus,
> > > > you may want
> > > > > to close your browser, wait a few minutes, then open setup.exe
> > > > and try to
> > > > > connect again (without opening your web browser to that
> > > > address).  That may
> > > > > help...
> > > > >
> > > > > Harold
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:48 AM
> > > > > > To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
Openbox
> > > > > > setup.exepackages available for testing
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harold,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I tried pointing setup.exe to
> > > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to
connect
> > > > > > and then comes back with "Unable to get setup.ini from
> > > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/".  I'm a relative
> > > > > > newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see
that
> > > > > > directory with my browser).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -rich
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PS:  Love the cygwin & cygwin/xfree products!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Point setup.exe at:
> > > > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86
> > packages plus
> > > > > > > WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do
an
> > > > > > install on
> > > > > > > there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the
> > > > > > generic Cygwin
> > > > > > > build script), so each of these new packages has a source file
> > > > > > as well (if
> > > > > > > you wish to see what was changed to make them compile
> > on Cygwin).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Enjoy,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Harold
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


From eugenius@dingoblue.net.au  Mon Apr 29 09:31:00 2002
From: eugenius@dingoblue.net.au (Eugene Rosenzweig)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:31:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox setup.exe packages available for testing
References: 
Message-ID: <007201c1ef99$619a9540$0300a8c0@bluebox>

Had no problems connecting or getting setup.ini. I have an older version of
setup.exe though, if that matters at all.

One funny side-effect: I only wanted windowmaker so I tried selecting skip
for all X packages. Clicking down the column would work for the first couple
but then all the 'Skip' status' would revert back to version numbers. I
fiddled trying to select 'Skip' on packages in different order and after a
while succedded in disabling all but windowmaker. Maybe it is something to
do with the older version of the setup.exe?

Eugene.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: "cygx" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:31 AM
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox setup.exe
packages available for testing


> Point setup.exe at:
> ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
>
> There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86 packages plus
> WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
>
> I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do an install on
> there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
>
> Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the generic Cygwin
> build script), so each of these new packages has a source file as well (if
> you wish to see what was changed to make them compile on Cygwin).
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Harold
>


From eugenius@dingoblue.net.au  Mon Apr 29 09:46:00 2002
From: eugenius@dingoblue.net.au (Eugene Rosenzweig)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:46:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
References: 
Message-ID: <009401c1ef9b$5c28c670$0300a8c0@bluebox>

WindowMaker is working OK. Had a glitch in the beginning. I could not see
wmaker in /usr/local where all other window managers I have compiled (or
tried to compile) live (openbox, blackbox, icewm). I tried to run it from
the command line and got a dialog from wmaker saying it could not find
libX11.dll. I put it into my .xinitrc file and ran startx. I got same error
then a series of errors same or similar dialogues from wdwrite.exe but then,
after all that, I got the windowmaker desktop and never been able to
reproduce the error, it starts every time now. Anyone else had a similar
problem?

Also, I am wondering. All other window managers seem to default to
/usr/local and so does the Makefile to the WindowMaker. Is there a
particular reason it installs into /bin? (I have tried to compile it but
failed with unresolved reference to Xsetlocale at linktime. This might be
simple but I am without a clue in this area so far.)

Eugene.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Hunt" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 1:45 AM
Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing


> Scott,
>
> So, does WindowMaker work?  Does Openbox work?  I need to know before I
> release the packages into the wild...
>
> Harold
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Scott Alexander
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:44 AM
> > To: Harold Hunt; Richard Drake; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> >
> >
> > Just muddled arround with my proxy settings and have connected
> > and done the
> > update.
> >
> > Scott.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Harold Hunt" 
> > To: "Richard Drake" ; 
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:31 PM
> > Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> >
> >
> > > Rich,
> > >
> > > I was able to connect to huntharo-4 and grab setup.ini with
> > setup.exe from
> > > my other machine just fine.
> > >
> > > Do you have a firewall or proxy server?  Have you told setup.exe to
use
> > your
> > > proxy server?
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:20 AM
> > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
> > > > Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Harold,
> > > >
> > > > still no luck.  we need another data point to isolate the problem
> > > > .. somebody else needs to try to point setup.exe to that location...
> > > >
> > > > -rich
> > > >
> > > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard,
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmm... you mention that you can see the directory with your
> > > > browser... that
> > > > > means that your browser has a connection open to my ftp
> > > > server... and I'm
> > > > > not sure how many connections my server allows per host.  Thus,
> > > > you may want
> > > > > to close your browser, wait a few minutes, then open setup.exe
> > > > and try to
> > > > > connect again (without opening your web browser to that
> > > > address).  That may
> > > > > help...
> > > > >
> > > > > Harold
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:48 AM
> > > > > > To: Harold Hunt; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and
Openbox
> > > > > > setup.exepackages available for testing
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harold,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I tried pointing setup.exe to
> > > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to
connect
> > > > > > and then comes back with "Unable to get setup.ini from
> > > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/".  I'm a relative
> > > > > > newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see
that
> > > > > > directory with my browser).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -rich
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PS:  Love the cygwin & cygwin/xfree products!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harold Hunt wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Point setup.exe at:
> > > > > > > ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86
> > packages plus
> > > > > > > WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do
an
> > > > > > install on
> > > > > > > there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the
> > > > > > generic Cygwin
> > > > > > > build script), so each of these new packages has a source file
> > > > > > as well (if
> > > > > > > you wish to see what was changed to make them compile
> > on Cygwin).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Enjoy,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Harold
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 11:54:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:54:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing
In-Reply-To: <009401c1ef9b$5c28c670$0300a8c0@bluebox>
Message-ID: 

Eugene,

Thanks for the confirmation.

> WindowMaker is working OK. Had a glitch in the beginning. I could not see
> wmaker in /usr/local where all other window managers I have compiled (or
> tried to compile) live (openbox, blackbox, icewm). I tried to run it from
> the command line and got a dialog from wmaker saying it could not find
> libX11.dll. I put it into my .xinitrc file and ran startx. I got
> same error
> then a series of errors same or similar dialogues from
> wdwrite.exe but then,
> after all that, I got the windowmaker desktop and never been able to
> reproduce the error, it starts every time now. Anyone else had a similar
> problem?

WindowMaker is not installed in /usr/local (more on this below).

You had a path problem from the command line because /usr/bin
(c:/cygwin/bin) is not in your DOS path... so it is expected that wmaker
could not be found.

The "errors" that you saw from the first startup of wmaker were, if you
actually read them, a bunch of messages saying that a configuration was
being created for you.  A bunch of this messages have "WARNING" in them,
such as "Warning: creating user profile..."  so it looks like something has
gone wrong at first glance, but actually wmaker is doing precisely what you
want.

Once the configuration profile is created it doesn't have to be created
again, thus no more messages.

> Also, I am wondering. All other window managers seem to default to
> /usr/local and so does the Makefile to the WindowMaker. Is there a
> particular reason it installs into /bin?

/usr/local/* is not in the path of 99% of Cygwin users (I'm guessing at this
one), and all Cygwin packages are supposed to be installed to /usr/*
(http://cygwin.com/setup.html).  /usr/local is really for user compiled
stuff, while /usr is for system stuff.  WindowMaker et al are now system
stuff, since they are installed via setup.exe, thus they go in /usr.

> (I have tried to compile it but
> failed with unresolved reference to Xsetlocale at linktime. This might be
> simple but I am without a clue in this area so far.)

The contents of my patch are below.  My fix was very simple... I wouldn't
submit this one to WindowMaker.org.

Harold


diff -urN -x .build -x .inst -x .sinst
WindowMaker-0.80.0-orig/WINGs/Examples/Makefile.am
WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs/Examples/Makefile.am
--- WindowMaker-0.80.0-orig/WINGs/Examples/Makefile.am	Thu Oct 11 05:59:54
2001
+++ WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs/Examples/Makefile.am	Mon Apr 29 09:43:06 2002
@@ -17,12 +17,12 @@
 connect_DEPENDENCIES = $(top_builddir)/WINGs/libWUtil.a

 connect_LDADD = $(top_builddir)/WINGs/libWUtil.a @LIBRARY_SEARCH_PATH@ \
-	@NETLIBS@ @INTLIBS@
+	@NETLIBS@ @INTLIBS@ @XLIBS@

 server_DEPENDENCIES = $(top_builddir)/WINGs/libWUtil.a

 server_LDADD = $(top_builddir)/WINGs/libWUtil.a @LIBRARY_SEARCH_PATH@ \
-	@NETLIBS@ @INTLIBS@
+	@NETLIBS@ @INTLIBS@ @XLIBS@


 INCLUDES = -I$(top_srcdir)/WINGs -I$(top_srcdir)/wrlib -I$(top_srcdir)/src
\
diff -urN -x .build -x .inst -x .sinst
WindowMaker-0.80.0-orig/WindowMaker/Icons/Makefile.am
WindowMaker-0.80.0/WindowMaker/Icons/Makefile.am
--- WindowMaker-0.80.0-orig/WindowMaker/Icons/Makefile.am	Sat Dec 30
20:33:10 2000
+++ WindowMaker-0.80.0/WindowMaker/Icons/Makefile.am	Mon Apr 29 10:04:13
2002
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@

 defsdata_DATA = \
 	BitchX.tiff\
-	DefaultAppIcon.tiff\
+	defaultAppIcon.tiff\
 	Ftp.png\
 	GNUstep.tiff\
 	GNUstep3D.tiff\
diff -urN -x .build -x .inst -x .sinst
WindowMaker-0.80.0-orig/util/Makefile.am WindowMaker-0.80.0/util/Makefile.am
--- WindowMaker-0.80.0-orig/util/Makefile.am	Thu Oct 11 05:59:54 2001
+++ WindowMaker-0.80.0/util/Makefile.am	Mon Apr 29 09:51:58 2002
@@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
 # X_EXTRA_LIBS is for libproplist in systems that need -lsocket
 # remove after we require lPL 0.10.2 which automatically resolves its
 # library dependancies using the libPropList.la file
-liblist= @LIBRARY_SEARCH_PATH@ @X_EXTRA_LIBS@ @INTLIBS@
+liblist= @LIBRARY_SEARCH_PATH@ @XLIBS@ @INTLIBS@

 wdwrite_LDADD = $(top_builddir)/WINGs/libWUtil.a $(liblist)


From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Mon Apr 29 11:56:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:56:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
Message-ID: 

When I try to start wmaker I get the eerror CYGJPEG6B.DLL not found. I
checked that this file indeed is not in my \cygwin directory. Which
package is it supposed to come in?

Openbox works great.

Lars.

--
Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 12:21:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:21:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Lars,

You've gotta start wmaker via some script that sets your paths correctly.

The startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh scripts do this.

You can't just run wmaker from any old command line.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:43 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
> 
> 
> When I try to start wmaker I get the eerror CYGJPEG6B.DLL not found. I
> checked that this file indeed is not in my \cygwin directory. Which
> package is it supposed to come in?
> 
> Openbox works great.
> 
> Lars.
> 
> --
> Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
> Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> 


From rrdrake@sandia.gov  Mon Apr 29 12:37:00 2002
From: rrdrake@sandia.gov (Richard Drake)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:37:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
References: 
Message-ID: <3CCD9D2E.1A3D40E6@sandia.gov>

Lars,

same thing here .. i just ran setup.exe and got the jpeg package in the list. after that, it failed to find a tiff dll, so i ran setup.exe again and got the tiff package.  wmaker worked for me after that.

-rich

Lars Jensen wrote:
> 
> When I try to start wmaker I get the eerror CYGJPEG6B.DLL not found. I
> checked that this file indeed is not in my \cygwin directory. Which
> package is it supposed to come in?
> 
> Openbox works great.
> 
> Lars.
> 
> --
> Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592


From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Mon Apr 29 12:43:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:43:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Harold,

Did you read more than the subject title of my posting?  ;-)

The message states that cygjpeg6b.dll is not in my \cygwin directory tree
at all. Further I am using startxwin.bat to start wmaker!

Where does the cygjpeg.dll come from?

Lars.


On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:

> Lars,
> 
> You've gotta start wmaker via some script that sets your paths correctly.
> 
> The startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh scripts do this.
> 
> You can't just run wmaker from any old command line.
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:43 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
> > 
> > 
> > When I try to start wmaker I get the eerror CYGJPEG6B.DLL not found. I
> > checked that this file indeed is not in my \cygwin directory. Which
> > package is it supposed to come in?
> > 
> > Openbox works great.
> > 
> > Lars.
> > 
> > --
> > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
> > Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> > 
> 

--
Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592


From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr 29 12:54:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:54:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
Message-ID: <20020429194303.GA27882@redhat.com>

On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 12:26:10PM -0700, Lars Jensen wrote:
>Harold,
>
>Did you read more than the subject title of my posting?  ;-)
>
>The message states that cygjpeg6b.dll is not in my \cygwin directory tree
>at all. Further I am using startxwin.bat to start wmaker!
>
>Where does the cygjpeg.dll come from?

http://cygwin.com/packages/

will give you a clue.

cgf


From david.w.dawson@lmco.com  Mon Apr 29 12:59:00 2002
From: david.w.dawson@lmco.com (Dawson, David W)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:59:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
Message-ID: <0C73AA5F720CD311AC2A0008C7DBA9B403BDF718@emss09m13.ems.lmco.com>

Goodness!!

> cygjpeg6b.dll is part of the jpeg package of Cygwin.
WindowMaker depends upon this package.
As noted in another post, WindowMaker also depends on the tiff package.

Anytime you suspect you are missing a .dll go to http://cygwin.com/packages/
and search for the missing item.
This page will tell you which package contains the file.

Apparently jpeg and tiff are not part of the "default" cygwin installation.

Many of us have a more complete installation of cygwin, and it is often
difficult to know which packages you should automatically have, if you have
correctly installed cygwin and are correctly using the
(offending/complaining) tool.

Now that it has become evident that WindowMaker also needs these
(non-default) packages, it could be so-noted in Howard's setup.ini file.
(IIF he wants to.)

	-D.
---------------------
David Dawson
david.w.dawson@lmco.com
703-367-3885


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Lars Jensen [SMTP:jensen@physics.unr.edu]
> Sent:	Monday, April 29, 2002 3:26 PM
> To:	Harold Hunt
> Cc:	cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject:	RE: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
> 
> Harold,
> 
> Did you read more than the subject title of my posting?  ;-)
> 
> The message states that cygjpeg6b.dll is not in my \cygwin directory tree
> at all. Further I am using startxwin.bat to start wmaker!
> 
> Where does the cygjpeg.dll come from?
> 
> Lars.
> 
> 
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> > Lars,
> > 
> > You've gotta start wmaker via some script that sets your paths
> correctly.
> > 
> > The startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh scripts do this.
> > 
> > You can't just run wmaker from any old command line.
> > 
> > Harold
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:43 PM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
> > > 
> > > 
> > > When I try to start wmaker I get the eerror CYGJPEG6B.DLL not found. I
> > > checked that this file indeed is not in my \cygwin directory. Which
> > > package is it supposed to come in?
> > > 
> > > Openbox works great.
> > > 
> > > Lars.
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
> > > Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> > > 
> > 
> 
> --
> Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
> Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 13:10:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 13:10:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Lars,

Yeah, I read it.  But I read it as, "I checked and cygjpeg6b.dll IS in my
/cygwin directory."

No need to get pissy.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 3:26 PM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
>
>
> Harold,
>
> Did you read more than the subject title of my posting?  ;-)
>
> The message states that cygjpeg6b.dll is not in my \cygwin directory tree
> at all. Further I am using startxwin.bat to start wmaker!
>
> Where does the cygjpeg.dll come from?
>
> Lars.
>
>
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
>
> > Lars,
> >
> > You've gotta start wmaker via some script that sets your paths
> correctly.
> >
> > The startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh scripts do this.
> >
> > You can't just run wmaker from any old command line.
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:43 PM
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
> > >
> > >
> > > When I try to start wmaker I get the eerror CYGJPEG6B.DLL not found. I
> > > checked that this file indeed is not in my \cygwin directory. Which
> > > package is it supposed to come in?
> > >
> > > Openbox works great.
> > >
> > > Lars.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> > > Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> > >
> >
>
> --
> Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
>


From jensen@physics.unr.edu  Mon Apr 29 13:12:00 2002
From: jensen@physics.unr.edu (Lars Jensen)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 13:12:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Harold,

I guess a crucial "not" was missing. -Anyhow, it was only meant as a
joke. I hope you didn't take any offense.

Anyway, where does cygjpeg6b.dll come from?

Lars.

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:

> Lars,
> 
> Yeah, I read it.  But I read it as, "I checked and cygjpeg6b.dll IS in my
> /cygwin directory."
> 
> No need to get pissy.
> 
> Harold
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 3:26 PM
> > To: Harold Hunt
> > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: RE: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
> >
> >
> > Harold,
> >
> > Did you read more than the subject title of my posting?  ;-)
> >
> > The message states that cygjpeg6b.dll is not in my \cygwin directory tree
> > at all. Further I am using startxwin.bat to start wmaker!
> >
> > Where does the cygjpeg.dll come from?
> >
> > Lars.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
> >
> > > Lars,
> > >
> > > You've gotta start wmaker via some script that sets your paths
> > correctly.
> > >
> > > The startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh scripts do this.
> > >
> > > You can't just run wmaker from any old command line.
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:43 PM
> > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > When I try to start wmaker I get the eerror CYGJPEG6B.DLL not found. I
> > > > checked that this file indeed is not in my \cygwin directory. Which
> > > > package is it supposed to come in?
> > > >
> > > > Openbox works great.
> > > >
> > > > Lars.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> > > > Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > > > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> > Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> >
> 
> 

--
Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592


From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr 29 13:17:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 13:17:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
Message-ID: <20020429201255.GA835@redhat.com>

On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 12:59:52PM -0700, Lars Jensen wrote:
>I guess a crucial "not" was missing. -Anyhow, it was only meant as a
>joke. I hope you didn't take any offense.
>
>Anyway, where does cygjpeg6b.dll come from?

Wow.  This thread is getting painful now.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 14:08:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:08:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Lars,

Two people answered this in the last five emails or so:

http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-grep.cgi?grep=cygjpeg6b.dll

You have to install the jpeg package.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:00 PM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
> 
> 
> Harold,
> 
> I guess a crucial "not" was missing. -Anyhow, it was only meant as a
> joke. I hope you didn't take any offense.
> 
> Anyway, where does cygjpeg6b.dll come from?
> 
> Lars.
> 
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> > Lars,
> > 
> > Yeah, I read it.  But I read it as, "I checked and 
> cygjpeg6b.dll IS in my
> > /cygwin directory."
> > 
> > No need to get pissy.
> > 
> > Harold
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 3:26 PM
> > > To: Harold Hunt
> > > Cc: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: RE: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
> > >
> > >
> > > Harold,
> > >
> > > Did you read more than the subject title of my posting?  ;-)
> > >
> > > The message states that cygjpeg6b.dll is not in my \cygwin 
> directory tree
> > > at all. Further I am using startxwin.bat to start wmaker!
> > >
> > > Where does the cygjpeg.dll come from?
> > >
> > > Lars.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
> > >
> > > > Lars,
> > > >
> > > > You've gotta start wmaker via some script that sets your paths
> > > correctly.
> > > >
> > > > The startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh scripts do this.
> > > >
> > > > You can't just run wmaker from any old command line.
> > > >
> > > > Harold
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > > > > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:43 PM
> > > > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > > > Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > When I try to start wmaker I get the eerror CYGJPEG6B.DLL 
> not found. I
> > > > > checked that this file indeed is not in my \cygwin 
> directory. Which
> > > > > package is it supposed to come in?
> > > > >
> > > > > Openbox works great.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lars.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 
> 89512-3999.
> > > > > Internet: , 
http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > > > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
> > Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
> > Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
> >
> 
> 

--
Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999. 
Internet: , http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 14:08:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:08:00 -0000
Subject: Best place for WindowMaker, Openbox, etc.?
Message-ID: 

I've created Cygwin setup.exe packages for the X11 window managers
WindowMaker and Openbox.  I have tentatively put them in
release/XFree86/WindowMaker and release/XFree86/openbox... is that a good
idea?  Or, should I give each X package a toplevel directory in release/?

Harold



From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Mon Apr 29 14:14:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:14:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
References: <0C73AA5F720CD311AC2A0008C7DBA9B403BDF718@emss09m13.ems.lmco.com>
Message-ID: <3CCDB6EE.7050101@ece.gatech.edu>

Dawson, David W wrote:

> Goodness!!
> 
> 
>>cygjpeg6b.dll is part of the jpeg package of Cygwin.
>>
> WindowMaker depends upon this package.
> As noted in another post, WindowMaker also depends on the tiff package.

> Now that it has become evident that WindowMaker also needs these
> (non-default) packages, it could be so-noted in Howard's setup.ini file.
> (IIF he wants to.)


Actually, this is a packaging error in windowmaker.  The setup.hint / 
setup.ini MUST list the required dependencies, for packages intended for 
distribution via the offiical mirror network.

requires:  ....  tiff jpeg

should appear in the setup.hint.  Then, when the website maintainer runs 
upset, setup.ini will specify the correct dependencies -- and when a 
users runs setup.exe and selects windowmaker, setep will automatically 
select the tiff and jpeg packages to satisfy those dependencies.

Cool, huh?

--Chuck


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 14:20:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:20:00 -0000
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
In-Reply-To: <3CCDB6EE.7050101@ece.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: 

Chuck,

Actually, I *just* made that change to setup.hint on my side... right before
you emailed :)  I added dependencies for jpeg and tiff to WindowMaker.

Now I just need to find out if there are any other dependencies that I am
forgetting.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Charles Wilson
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 5:11 PM
> To: Dawson, David W; cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
>
>
> Dawson, David W wrote:
>
> > Goodness!!
> >
> >
> >>cygjpeg6b.dll is part of the jpeg package of Cygwin.
> >>
> > WindowMaker depends upon this package.
> > As noted in another post, WindowMaker also depends on the tiff package.
>
> > Now that it has become evident that WindowMaker also needs these
> > (non-default) packages, it could be so-noted in Howard's setup.ini file.
> > (IIF he wants to.)
>
>
> Actually, this is a packaging error in windowmaker.  The setup.hint /
> setup.ini MUST list the required dependencies, for packages intended for
> distribution via the offiical mirror network.
>
> requires:  ....  tiff jpeg
>
> should appear in the setup.hint.  Then, when the website maintainer runs
> upset, setup.ini will specify the correct dependencies -- and when a
> users runs setup.exe and selects windowmaker, setep will automatically
> select the tiff and jpeg packages to satisfy those dependencies.
>
> Cool, huh?
>
> --Chuck
>


From sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com  Mon Apr 29 14:20:00 2002
From: sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com (Sam Edge)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:20:00 -0000
Subject: Best place for WindowMaker, Openbox, etc.?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

Harold Hunt wrote in 
in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Mon, 29 Apr 2002 17:08:12 -0400:

> I've created Cygwin setup.exe packages for the X11 window managers
> WindowMaker and Openbox.  I have tentatively put them in
> release/XFree86/WindowMaker and release/XFree86/openbox... is that a good
> idea?  Or, should I give each X package a toplevel directory in release/?

Maybe "Shells" along with rxvt and the command interpreters. Certainly
not "XFree86" because they're not part of XFree86 itself - they just
run under it.

-- 
Sam Edge


From lhall@rfk.com  Mon Apr 29 14:36:00 2002
From: lhall@rfk.com (Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc))
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:36:00 -0000
Subject: Best place for WindowMaker, Openbox, etc.?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20020429171709.02d0e6f8@pop.ma.ultranet.com>

At 05:08 PM 4/29/2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
>I've created Cygwin setup.exe packages for the X11 window managers
>WindowMaker and Openbox.  I have tentatively put them in
>release/XFree86/WindowMaker and release/XFree86/openbox... is that a good
>idea?  Or, should I give each X package a toplevel directory in release/?


The latter please.

Thanks,



Larry Hall                              lhall@rfk.com
RFK Partners, Inc.                      http://www.rfk.com
838 Washington Street                   (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office
Holliston, MA 01746                     (508) 893-9889 - FAX


From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr 29 14:39:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:39:00 -0000
Subject: Clarifying xfree86 package rules
Message-ID: <20020429213652.GA2331@redhat.com>

This is probably pretty obvious but I want to make it clear that Harold
and Suhaib (if he's interested) have automony in the release/Xfree86
hierarchy.  That means that they can put packages there, remove
packages, or whatever, without asking for permission in cygwin-apps.

So, this is an exemption to the usual post it to cygwin-apps and ask for
permission policy.

I would appreciate notification of when things go in but, again, that's
obvious, too.  I assume that will happen in the cygwin-xfree mailing list,
as always.

FYI,
cgf


From cgf@redhat.com  Mon Apr 29 23:10:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 23:10:00 -0000
Subject: Best place for WindowMaker, Openbox, etc.?
In-Reply-To: 
References:  
Message-ID: <20020429213920.GA2051@redhat.com>

On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 10:20:00PM +0100, Sam Edge wrote:
>Harold Hunt wrote in 
>in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Mon, 29 Apr 2002 17:08:12 -0400:
>>I've created Cygwin setup.exe packages for the X11 window managers
>>WindowMaker and Openbox.  I have tentatively put them in
>>release/XFree86/WindowMaker and release/XFree86/openbox...  is that a
>>good idea?  Or, should I give each X package a toplevel directory in
>>release/?
>
>Maybe "Shells" along with rxvt and the command interpreters.  Certainly
>not "XFree86" because they're not part of XFree86 itself - they just
>run under it.

If they run under it, they belong in the XFree86 hierarchy.  That's
why I created it.

Please put the packages in XFree86/WindowMaker and XFree86/openbox.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 23:26:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 23:26:00 -0000
Subject: upset stumper [cgf, Robert Collins, please comment]
Message-ID: 

I'm packaging up Gnome, but upset chokes on finding the version of gtk+.  It
takes this setup.hint:

sdesc: "gtk+"
category: XFree86
requires: XFree86-base glib
ldesc: "GTK+ is a multi-platform toolkit for creating graphical user
interfaces. Offering a complete set of widgets, GTK+ is suitable for
projects ranging from small one-off projects to complete application
suites.

GTK+ is free software and part of the GNU Project. However, the
licensing terms for GTK+, the GNU LGPL, allow it to be used by all
developers, including those developing proprietary software, without
any license fees or royalties."


And turns it into this setup.ini entry:

@ gtk+
sdesc: "Gtk+"
ldesc: "GTK+ is a multi-platform toolkit for creating graphical user
interfaces. Offering a complete set of widgets, GTK+ is suitable for
projects ranging from small one-off projects to complete application
suites.

GTK+ is free software and part of the GNU Project. However, the
licensing terms for GTK+, the GNU LGPL, allow it to be used by all
developers, including those developing proprietary software, without
any license fees or royalties."
category: XFree86
requires: XFree86-base glib
version: -1.2.10-1
install: release/XFree86/gtk+/gtk+-1.2.10-1.tar.bz2 2566794
source: release/XFree86/gtk+/gtk+-1.2.10-1-src.tar.bz2 2884874


Notice that the version is thought to be "-1.2.10-1", rather than
"1.2.10-1".

Robert, can setup.exe handle a '+' in the package name?

Harold



From gis90545@cis.nctu.edu.tw  Mon Apr 29 23:31:00 2002
From: gis90545@cis.nctu.edu.tw (daylong)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 23:31:00 -0000
Subject: bad setup.exe
Message-ID: 

can you reprogram the cygwin installer (setup.exe)!!!
I can see a some buttons or some labels
There are a lot of bugs , 
for example , when I add a wrong url to add site,
I can't fix it and can't find it in any place !!!
plz tell me how to fix it 

From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 23:32:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 23:32:00 -0000
Subject: bad setup.exe
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

No.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com 
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of daylong
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:26 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: bad setup.exe
> 
> 
> can you reprogram the cygwin installer (setup.exe)!!!
> I can see a some buttons or some labels
> There are a lot of bugs , 
> for example , when I add a wrong url to add site,
> I can't fix it and can't find it in any place !!!
> plz tell me how to fix it 


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From huntharo@msu.edu  Mon Apr 29 23:45:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 23:45:00 -0000
Subject: mkdll.sh
Message-ID: 

Steve,

I'm working on creating Cygwin setup.exe packages for Gnome... I know, it's
buggy but I'd like to get a start.  One problem I'm having with your patches
is that they use mkdll.sh but they don't cause configure to copy the file to
a build directory.

For example:

tar xzf glib-1.2.10.tar.gz
cd glib-1.2.10
patch -p1 < ../glib-1.2.10-cygwin.patch
mkdir build
cd build
../configure
[yada yada yada]
make
[yada yada yada]
mkdir .libs
ar cru .libs/libglib.a  garray.o gcache.o gcompletion.o gdataset.o gdate.o
gerro
r.o ghash.o ghook.o giochannel.o giounix.o glist.o gmain.o gmem.o
gmessages.o gm
utex.o gnode.o gprimes.o grel.o gscanner.o gslist.o gstrfuncs.o gstring.o
gtimer
.o gtree.o gutils.o
ranlib .libs/libglib.a
creating libglib.la
(cd .libs && rm -f libglib.la && ln -s ../libglib.la libglib.la)
cd .libs && PREFIX=/usr sh ../mkdll.sh libglib.la
../mkdll.sh: Can't open ../mkdll.sh: No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [libglib.la] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
10/.build'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
10/.build'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2


Eventually I always reach a point where mkdll.sh can't be found because
configure didn't copy it to the out-of-the-tree build directory.

Got any ideas on how to fix this?

Harold


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Mon Apr 29 23:46:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 23:46:00 -0000
Subject: mkdll.sh
References: 
Message-ID: <3CCE3E34.3040401@ece.gatech.edu>

You could probably do the following:

get rid of mkdll.sh
relibtoolize/autoconf using the "-devel" tools (e.g. make sure that 
configure.in has "AC_PREREQ(2.52)")

./configure; make;

It oughta work. 

--chuck


Harold Hunt wrote:

> Steve,
> 
> I'm working on creating Cygwin setup.exe packages for Gnome... I know, it's
> buggy but I'd like to get a start.  One problem I'm having with your patches
> is that they use mkdll.sh but they don't cause configure to copy the file to
> a build directory.
> 
> For example:
> 
> tar xzf glib-1.2.10.tar.gz
> cd glib-1.2.10
> patch -p1 < ../glib-1.2.10-cygwin.patch
> mkdir build
> cd build
> ../configure
> [yada yada yada]
> make
> [yada yada yada]
> mkdir .libs
> ar cru .libs/libglib.a  garray.o gcache.o gcompletion.o gdataset.o gdate.o
> gerro
> r.o ghash.o ghook.o giochannel.o giounix.o glist.o gmain.o gmem.o
> gmessages.o gm
> utex.o gnode.o gprimes.o grel.o gscanner.o gslist.o gstrfuncs.o gstring.o
> gtimer
> .o gtree.o gutils.o
> ranlib .libs/libglib.a
> creating libglib.la
> (cd .libs && rm -f libglib.la && ln -s ../libglib.la libglib.la)
> cd .libs && PREFIX=/usr sh ../mkdll.sh libglib.la
> ../mkdll.sh: Can't open ../mkdll.sh: No such file or directory
> make[2]: *** [libglib.la] Error 2
> make[2]: Leaving directory
> `/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
> 10/.build'
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory
> `/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
> 10/.build'
> make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
> 
> 
> Eventually I always reach a point where mkdll.sh can't be found because
> configure didn't copy it to the out-of-the-tree build directory.
> 
> Got any ideas on how to fix this?
> 
> Harold
> 
> 
> 



From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 30 01:12:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 01:12:00 -0000
Subject: By the way...
Message-ID: 

... I added a link to your Cygwin Gnome page to Cygwin/XFree86's Ported
Software page:
http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ported-software.html

I'm very impressed with your work to compile Gnome with DLLs.  Keep it up!

Harold


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Tue Apr 30 02:08:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 02:08:00 -0000
Subject: mkdll.sh
References: 
Message-ID: <3CCE3E34.3040401@ece.gatech.edu>

You could probably do the following:

get rid of mkdll.sh
relibtoolize/autoconf using the "-devel" tools (e.g. make sure that 
configure.in has "AC_PREREQ(2.52)")

./configure; make;

It oughta work. 

--chuck


Harold Hunt wrote:

> Steve,
> 
> I'm working on creating Cygwin setup.exe packages for Gnome... I know, it's
> buggy but I'd like to get a start.  One problem I'm having with your patches
> is that they use mkdll.sh but they don't cause configure to copy the file to
> a build directory.
> 
> For example:
> 
> tar xzf glib-1.2.10.tar.gz
> cd glib-1.2.10
> patch -p1 < ../glib-1.2.10-cygwin.patch
> mkdir build
> cd build
> ../configure
> [yada yada yada]
> make
> [yada yada yada]
> mkdir .libs
> ar cru .libs/libglib.a  garray.o gcache.o gcompletion.o gdataset.o gdate.o
> gerro
> r.o ghash.o ghook.o giochannel.o giounix.o glist.o gmain.o gmem.o
> gmessages.o gm
> utex.o gnode.o gprimes.o grel.o gscanner.o gslist.o gstrfuncs.o gstring.o
> gtimer
> .o gtree.o gutils.o
> ranlib .libs/libglib.a
> creating libglib.la
> (cd .libs && rm -f libglib.la && ln -s ../libglib.la libglib.la)
> cd .libs && PREFIX=/usr sh ../mkdll.sh libglib.la
> ../mkdll.sh: Can't open ../mkdll.sh: No such file or directory
> make[2]: *** [libglib.la] Error 2
> make[2]: Leaving directory
> `/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
> 10/.build'
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory
> `/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
> 10/.build'
> make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
> 
> 
> Eventually I always reach a point where mkdll.sh can't be found because
> configure didn't copy it to the out-of-the-tree build directory.
> 
> Got any ideas on how to fix this?
> 
> Harold
> 
> 
> 




From gh@herbort-rottschaefer.de  Tue Apr 30 05:41:00 2002
From: gh@herbort-rottschaefer.de (Gregor Herbort)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 05:41:00 -0000
Subject: Installation Problems
Message-ID: 

Hello,

here what i got from Aaron Newcomb as an answer for the problem i described
on 25. April. I tried it and it works.


Gregor,

I happend to read your post on the cygwin/XFree mailing list archive. I ran
into the same problem and was able to fix it. It seems that the new cygwin
install program does not install all the necessary libraries that are needed
to run the XFree86 install. Here is what I had to do.

INSTALLATION:

To update your installation, click on the "Install Cygwin now" link
on the http://cygwin.com/ web page.  This downloads setup.exe to
your system.  Save it and run setup, answer the questions and pick
up 'gettext' from the 'Libs' category.  You may need to
click the "Full" (or "View") button if it doesn't show up.  You might want
to make sure you update/install ALL of the following three packages:
  gettext-0.10.40-1
  libintl1-0.10.40-1
  libintl-0.10.38-3

I also had to install pcre to get the script to run properly. I hope this
helps. You might want to pass this info back to the mailing list if you are
still subscribed since I do not plan on subscribing right now.

Thanks,
Aaron Newcomb
http://www.newcombnet.com
aaron@newcombnet.com

-----Urspr??ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
[mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]Im Auftrag von Gregor Herbort
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. April 2002 11:41
An: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Betreff: Installation Problems


Hello,

i downloaded Cygwin/XFree86. When i try to install with ./Xinstall i get a
Windows Error Message that the cygintl-1.dll is missing.
Nevertheless the Xinstall script starts and examined the file extract.exe
and comes to the conclusion that this file si not correct renamed it and
then the script stops.
Any tips?

greetings
Gregor

Herbort und Rottsch??fer - IT-Konzeptionen
http://www.herbort-rottschaefer.de
Antoniuskirchplatz 16
48151 M??nster
tel:0251-1367594 fax:0251-1367595


From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au  Tue Apr 30 06:20:00 2002
From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 06:20:00 -0000
Subject: upset stumper [cgf, Robert Collins, please comment]
Message-ID: 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:10 PM

> install: release/XFree86/gtk+/gtk+-1.2.10-1.tar.bz2 2566794
> source: release/XFree86/gtk+/gtk+-1.2.10-1-src.tar.bz2 2884874
> 
> 
> Notice that the version is thought to be "-1.2.10-1", rather 
> than "1.2.10-1".
> 
> Robert, can setup.exe handle a '+' in the package name?

It should be able to. What do you see in the chooser if you point setup
at your setup.ini file (after correcting the version entry).

Rob 


From arun2202@hotmail.com  Tue Apr 30 06:54:00 2002
From: arun2202@hotmail.com (arun)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 06:54:00 -0000
Subject: newbie
Message-ID: 

hello,

I have an x windows application compiled for linux.This application
extensively uses graphics Can I directly port it to windows using
Cygwin/xfree86 ??

thanx


From sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com  Tue Apr 30 07:12:00 2002
From: sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com (Sam Edge)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:12:00 -0000
Subject: Best place for WindowMaker, Openbox, etc.?
In-Reply-To: <20020429213920.GA2051@redhat.com>
References:   <20020429213920.GA2051@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Christopher Faylor wrote in <20020429213920.GA2051@redhat.com>
in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Mon, 29 Apr 2002 17:39:20 -0400:

> If they run under it, they belong in the XFree86 hierarchy.  That's
> why I created it.

I didn't mean to tread on any toes. I was expressing an opinion.
Perhaps I should have made that clearer. Sorry.

Most packages "run under" Cygwin itself, but they're not all
sub-directories of release/cygwin.

XFree86 is a distinct entity in its own right. Everything currently
under that folder is part of the XFree86 project. 

Other things that can use X such as rxvt and WindowMaker aren't part
of XFree86 itself. In my opinion they should have their own
directories and perhaps a new category such as "Xapps."

* shrug *

It's a minor detail.

-- 
Sam Edge


From FRANZW@dk.ibm.com  Tue Apr 30 07:20:00 2002
From: FRANZW@dk.ibm.com (Franz Wolfhagen)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:20:00 -0000
Subject: Best place for WindowMaker, Openbox, etc.?
Message-ID: 


>Other things that can use X such as rxvt and WindowMaker aren't part
>of XFree86 itself. In my opinion they should have their own
>directories and perhaps a new category such as "Xapps."

I think a category of Xmanagers for WindowMaker and Openbox etc. would be
better.

Xapps should be applications ported such as GIMP, lynx etc.

Med venlig hilsen / Regards
Franz Wolfhagen


From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr 30 07:25:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:25:00 -0000
Subject: Best place for WindowMaker, Openbox, etc.?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020430141215.GA11819@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 03:53:13PM +0200, Franz Wolfhagen wrote:
>>Other things that can use X such as rxvt and WindowMaker aren't part of
>>XFree86 itself.  In my opinion they should have their own directories
>>and perhaps a new category such as "Xapps."
>
>I think a category of Xmanagers for WindowMaker and Openbox etc.  would
>be better.

We are not talking about categories.  The question was where to physically
put the actual tar balls.

cgf


From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr 30 07:29:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:29:00 -0000
Subject: upset stumper [cgf, Robert Collins, please comment]
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020430142016.GA12043@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 02:09:56AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
>version: -1.2.10-1
>install: release/XFree86/gtk+/gtk+-1.2.10-1.tar.bz2 2566794
>source: release/XFree86/gtk+/gtk+-1.2.10-1-src.tar.bz2 2884874
>
>
>Notice that the version is thought to be "-1.2.10-1", rather than
>"1.2.10-1".
>
>Robert, can setup.exe handle a '+' in the package name?

upset was confused by the fact that '+' is a regex meta character.
I've checked in a fix so it should work better now.

cgf


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 30 07:30:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:30:00 -0000
Subject: upset stumper [cgf, Robert Collins, please comment]
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Robert,

I forgot to reply last night that I had hand-fixed the setup.ini file and
setup.exe ran fine after that.

Thanks,

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Robert Collins
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 5:08 AM
> To: Harold Hunt; cygx
> Subject: RE: upset stumper [cgf, Robert Collins, please comment]
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:10 PM
>
> > install: release/XFree86/gtk+/gtk+-1.2.10-1.tar.bz2 2566794
> > source: release/XFree86/gtk+/gtk+-1.2.10-1-src.tar.bz2 2884874
> >
> >
> > Notice that the version is thought to be "-1.2.10-1", rather
> > than "1.2.10-1".
> >
> > Robert, can setup.exe handle a '+' in the package name?
>
> It should be able to. What do you see in the chooser if you point setup
> at your setup.ini file (after correcting the version entry).
>
> Rob


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 30 07:33:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:33:00 -0000
Subject: upset stumper [cgf, Robert Collins, please comment]
In-Reply-To: <20020430142016.GA12043@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Chris,

Much better, thanks.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 10:20 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: upset stumper [cgf, Robert Collins, please comment]
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 02:09:56AM -0400, Harold Hunt wrote:
> >version: -1.2.10-1
> >install: release/XFree86/gtk+/gtk+-1.2.10-1.tar.bz2 2566794
> >source: release/XFree86/gtk+/gtk+-1.2.10-1-src.tar.bz2 2884874
> >
> >
> >Notice that the version is thought to be "-1.2.10-1", rather than
> >"1.2.10-1".
> >
> >Robert, can setup.exe handle a '+' in the package name?
> 
> upset was confused by the fact that '+' is a regex meta character.
> I've checked in a fix so it should work better now.
> 
> cgf


From flognat@flognat.myip.org  Tue Apr 30 07:34:00 2002
From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:34:00 -0000
Subject: newbie
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

/ "arun"  wrote:
| hello,
| 
| I have an x windows application compiled for linux.This application
| extensively uses graphics Can I directly port it to windows using
| Cygwin/xfree86 ??

If it is clean portable c/c++ code - yep. If you do a bunch os-specific
stuff and so on, you have to put some work on it.

        /Andy

-- 
 The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 30 07:41:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:41:00 -0000
Subject: Failed assertion bug using OpenOffice.org
In-Reply-To: <200204242121.g3OLL1M18116@d1o1006.telia.com>
Message-ID: 

Peter,

Yes, we are aware of that bug.  We're slowly getting around to working on
it.

Several other cases produce that same failed assertation message.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Peter Magnusson
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:21 PM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Failed assertion bug using OpenOffice.org
>
>
> I have a setup with cygwin 1.3.9-1 and 4.2.0 of cygwin-xfree.
> I have a little problem when using openoffice.org (641c) both with and
> without a windowmanager. I use SuSE 7.3 Pro Linux distribution with
> KDE. I use Windows 2000 Pro, SP2 (english).
>
> When accessing any of the menuitems a Windows(ms) dialog box pops up
> saying ...
> ---------------------
> Faild assertion
>    fds_on_hold !NULL
> at line 601 of /cygnus/netrel/src/cygwin-1.3.9-1/winsup/cygwin/dtable.cc
> ---------------------
> This seems to be a similar bug that has been reported when using KDE3
> but I am not sertain.
> I get the same results using the T55 version of XWin.exe.
>
> I use openoffice.org a lot and it would be a lot simpler if I could use
> the same environment (XWindows) when using my Windows box as well.
>
>
> ======================================
>             Peter Magnusson
>          mailto:kmpm@telia.com
> ======================================


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 30 07:42:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:42:00 -0000
Subject: newbie
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

That all depends.  Your chances are pretty good.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com 
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of arun
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:42 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: newbie
> 
> 
> hello,
> 
> I have an x windows application compiled for linux.This application
> extensively uses graphics Can I directly port it to windows using
> Cygwin/xfree86 ??
> 
> thanx


From sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com  Tue Apr 30 07:43:00 2002
From: sam_edgeZZZ@hotmail.com (Sam Edge)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:43:00 -0000
Subject: Best place for WindowMaker, Openbox, etc.?
In-Reply-To: <20020430141215.GA11819@redhat.com>
References:  <20020430141215.GA11819@redhat.com>
Message-ID: 

Christopher Faylor wrote in <20020430141215.GA11819@redhat.com>
in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:12:15 -0400:

> >>Other things that can use X such as rxvt and WindowMaker aren't part of
> >>XFree86 itself.  In my opinion they should have their own directories
> >>and perhaps a new category such as "Xapps."
> >
> >I think a category of Xmanagers for WindowMaker and Openbox etc.  would
> >be better.
> 
> We are not talking about categories.  The question was where to physically
> put the actual tar balls.

The categories could be discussed as well. ;-) I'm not sure we need a
distinction between window managers and other applications in terms of
categories. They all just need an X server - pretty much any X server
- although some do rely on certain parts of the XFree86 distribution
on the machine where they're executing. (Where this is the case they
should have dependencies in setup.hint/setup.ini of course.)

-- 
Sam Edge


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 30 07:53:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:53:00 -0000
Subject: mkdll.sh
In-Reply-To: <3CCE3E34.3040401@ece.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: 

Chuck,

Could you give a few more notes on "relibtoolize"?  A pointer to some good
documentation would be helpful...

Is the general idea here that I would just be working on the config files
and makefiles, rather than having to make extensive internal changes to the
way that libraries are loaded?

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Charles Wilson
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:48 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Cc: cygx
> Subject: Re: mkdll.sh
>
>
> You could probably do the following:
>
> get rid of mkdll.sh
> relibtoolize/autoconf using the "-devel" tools (e.g. make sure that
> configure.in has "AC_PREREQ(2.52)")
>
> ./configure; make;
>
> It oughta work. 
>
> --chuck
>
>
> Harold Hunt wrote:
>
> > Steve,
> >
> > I'm working on creating Cygwin setup.exe packages for Gnome...
> I know, it's
> > buggy but I'd like to get a start.  One problem I'm having with
> your patches
> > is that they use mkdll.sh but they don't cause configure to
> copy the file to
> > a build directory.
> >
> > For example:
> >
> > tar xzf glib-1.2.10.tar.gz
> > cd glib-1.2.10
> > patch -p1 < ../glib-1.2.10-cygwin.patch
> > mkdir build
> > cd build
> > ../configure
> > [yada yada yada]
> > make
> > [yada yada yada]
> > mkdir .libs
> > ar cru .libs/libglib.a  garray.o gcache.o gcompletion.o
> gdataset.o gdate.o
> > gerro
> > r.o ghash.o ghook.o giochannel.o giounix.o glist.o gmain.o gmem.o
> > gmessages.o gm
> > utex.o gnode.o gprimes.o grel.o gscanner.o gslist.o gstrfuncs.o
> gstring.o
> > gtimer
> > .o gtree.o gutils.o
> > ranlib .libs/libglib.a
> > creating libglib.la
> > (cd .libs && rm -f libglib.la && ln -s ../libglib.la libglib.la)
> > cd .libs && PREFIX=/usr sh ../mkdll.sh libglib.la
> > ../mkdll.sh: Can't open ../mkdll.sh: No such file or directory
> > make[2]: *** [libglib.la] Error 2
> > make[2]: Leaving directory
> > `/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
> > 10/.build'
> > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > make[1]: Leaving directory
> > `/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
> > 10/.build'
> > make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
> >
> >
> > Eventually I always reach a point where mkdll.sh can't be found because
> > configure didn't copy it to the out-of-the-tree build directory.
> >
> > Got any ideas on how to fix this?
> >
> > Harold
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 30 07:55:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:55:00 -0000
Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] New Cygwin setup.exe package: lesstif
Message-ID: 

Lesstif, http://www.lesstif.org/,  is now available via setup.exe.

Enjoy,

Harold


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 30 07:59:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:59:00 -0000
Subject: Installation Problems
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Gregor,

Thanks, I updated the setup.hint file to list this dependencies for
XFree86-base.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Gregor Herbort
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:40 AM
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: RE: Installation Problems
>
>
> Hello,
>
> here what i got from Aaron Newcomb as an answer for the problem i
> described
> on 25. April. I tried it and it works.
>
>
> Gregor,
>
> I happend to read your post on the cygwin/XFree mailing list
> archive. I ran
> into the same problem and was able to fix it. It seems that the new cygwin
> install program does not install all the necessary libraries that
> are needed
> to run the XFree86 install. Here is what I had to do.
>
> INSTALLATION:
>
> To update your installation, click on the "Install Cygwin now" link
> on the http://cygwin.com/ web page.  This downloads setup.exe to
> your system.  Save it and run setup, answer the questions and pick
> up 'gettext' from the 'Libs' category.  You may need to
> click the "Full" (or "View") button if it doesn't show up.  You might want
> to make sure you update/install ALL of the following three packages:
>   gettext-0.10.40-1
>   libintl1-0.10.40-1
>   libintl-0.10.38-3
>
> I also had to install pcre to get the script to run properly. I hope this
> helps. You might want to pass this info back to the mailing list
> if you are
> still subscribed since I do not plan on subscribing right now.
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron Newcomb
> http://www.newcombnet.com
> aaron@newcombnet.com
>
> -----Urspr??ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]Im Auftrag von Gregor Herbort
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. April 2002 11:41
> An: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Betreff: Installation Problems
>
>
> Hello,
>
> i downloaded Cygwin/XFree86. When i try to install with ./Xinstall i get a
> Windows Error Message that the cygintl-1.dll is missing.
> Nevertheless the Xinstall script starts and examined the file extract.exe
> and comes to the conclusion that this file si not correct renamed it and
> then the script stops.
> Any tips?
>
> greetings
> Gregor
>
> Herbort und Rottsch??fer - IT-Konzeptionen
> http://www.herbort-rottschaefer.de
> Antoniuskirchplatz 16
> 48151 M??nster
> tel:0251-1367594 fax:0251-1367595
>


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Tue Apr 30 08:43:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:43:00 -0000
Subject: By the way...
References: 
Message-ID: <3CCEB0EA.7020804@ece.gatech.edu>

Harold Hunt wrote:

> ... I added a link to your Cygwin Gnome page to Cygwin/XFree86's Ported
> Software page:
> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ported-software.html
> 
> I'm very impressed with your work to compile Gnome with DLLs.  Keep it up!


A couple of things:

1) pkgconfig.  I'm the cygwin pkgconfig maintainer, and I'd like to 
insure that you can use the "official" version in your port.  You are 
using a patched version of 0.8.0; cygwin distributes 0.10.0; but 0.12.0 
is now available.  Could you try 0.12.0 (unpatched and/or patched) and 
see if that works for you?

If you must use a patched version of 0.12.0, then I'd consider 
incorporating that patch into the official cygwin dist; also, in that 
case, we could submit your patch upstream for incorporation into the 
"real" 0.13.0...

2) libiconv/gettext: If someone 'adopts' my setup-compatible package for 
libiconv -- see thes3 messages:
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-04/msg01558.html
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-02/msg00467.html

and it is included in the official cygwin dist, then I would rebuild the 
official gettext package to use it.  (Yes, I'm also the cygwin gettext 
maintainer).

3) cygextras: why not submit these as patches to the cygwin DLL? If it 
is because the code is from gnu libc, then you could in partnership with 
someone else, reimplement them and submit the result: your partner would 
actually write the code to the specifications you develop; you would 
verify that the result operates the same as the current version. 
("Chinese Firewall").  Then, assign copyright on the reimplementations 
to Red Hat/Cygwin, and submit!

4) berkeley db: folks have been asking for this for a long time.  Would 
you consider packaging it up and submitting it as an official package? 
(Don't worry about the tcl thing; you needn't be able to run the test 
suite on an "official ports only" system).  side note: any idea why 
Gnome doesn't use the GNU database instead? gdbm?

5) libungif: just like libiconv, I have a setup-compatible package for 
this.  If someone wants to adopt it and submit it for official 
inclusion, contact me offline.

--Chuck




From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Tue Apr 30 08:43:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:43:00 -0000
Subject: By the way...
References: 
Message-ID: <3CCEB0EA.7020804@ece.gatech.edu>

Harold Hunt wrote:

> ... I added a link to your Cygwin Gnome page to Cygwin/XFree86's Ported
> Software page:
> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ported-software.html
> 
> I'm very impressed with your work to compile Gnome with DLLs.  Keep it up!


A couple of things:

1) pkgconfig.  I'm the cygwin pkgconfig maintainer, and I'd like to 
insure that you can use the "official" version in your port.  You are 
using a patched version of 0.8.0; cygwin distributes 0.10.0; but 0.12.0 
is now available.  Could you try 0.12.0 (unpatched and/or patched) and 
see if that works for you?

If you must use a patched version of 0.12.0, then I'd consider 
incorporating that patch into the official cygwin dist; also, in that 
case, we could submit your patch upstream for incorporation into the 
"real" 0.13.0...

2) libiconv/gettext: If someone 'adopts' my setup-compatible package for 
libiconv -- see thes3 messages:
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-04/msg01558.html
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-02/msg00467.html

and it is included in the official cygwin dist, then I would rebuild the 
official gettext package to use it.  (Yes, I'm also the cygwin gettext 
maintainer).

3) cygextras: why not submit these as patches to the cygwin DLL? If it 
is because the code is from gnu libc, then you could in partnership with 
someone else, reimplement them and submit the result: your partner would 
actually write the code to the specifications you develop; you would 
verify that the result operates the same as the current version. 
("Chinese Firewall").  Then, assign copyright on the reimplementations 
to Red Hat/Cygwin, and submit!

4) berkeley db: folks have been asking for this for a long time.  Would 
you consider packaging it up and submitting it as an official package? 
(Don't worry about the tcl thing; you needn't be able to run the test 
suite on an "official ports only" system).  side note: any idea why 
Gnome doesn't use the GNU database instead? gdbm?

5) libungif: just like libiconv, I have a setup-compatible package for 
this.  If someone wants to adopt it and submit it for official 
inclusion, contact me offline.

--Chuck


From cgf@redhat.com  Tue Apr 30 08:45:00 2002
From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:45:00 -0000
Subject: Best place for WindowMaker, Openbox, etc.?
In-Reply-To: 
References:  <20020430141215.GA11819@redhat.com> 
Message-ID: <20020430145927.GA21634@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 03:39:40PM +0100, Sam Edge wrote:
>Christopher Faylor wrote in <20020430141215.GA11819@redhat.com>
>in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:12:15 -0400:
>>>>Other things that can use X such as rxvt and WindowMaker aren't part of
>>>>XFree86 itself.  In my opinion they should have their own directories
>>>>and perhaps a new category such as "Xapps."
>>>
>>>I think a category of Xmanagers for WindowMaker and Openbox etc.  would
>>>be better.
>>
>>We are not talking about categories.  The question was where to
>>physically put the actual tar balls.
>
>The categories could be discussed as well.  ;-)

So start another thread rather than confuse the issue by responding as
if you are actually answering a question that was never asked.

cgf


From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de  Tue Apr 30 09:01:00 2002
From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:01:00 -0000
Subject: problems with kde 1.1.2 kcontrol solved
Message-ID: <001801c1f05d$b0a3bcb0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE>

Hi,

some month ago I've encountered a problem with kde 1.1.2 kcontol.

The problem was, that a once called kcontrol page was hidden for further calls.
Currently I have checked this with the xfree 4.2.0 release and recognizes that
it this problem is gone away.

Thanks for this good work.

Ralf Habacker



From pcolovas@lucent.com  Tue Apr 30 11:54:00 2002
From: pcolovas@lucent.com (Peter W. Colovas)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:54:00 -0000
Subject: cut and paste from MS windows app to xfree (xfce) app
Message-ID: <3CCEBB88.2E1D3858@lucent.com>

How do I cut and paste from MS windows app to xfree (xfce) app? I can't
find anything about it in the docs or archives. Is it specific to each
WM?
Thanks,
-Pete
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From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Tue Apr 30 11:58:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:58:00 -0000
Subject: mkdll.sh
References: 
Message-ID: <3CCEBCAD.30904@ece.gatech.edu>

Harold Hunt wrote:

 > Chuck,
 >
 > Could you give a few more notes on "relibtoolize"?  A pointer to some 
good
 > documentation would be helpful...


Well, there's the goat book http://sources.redhat.com/autobook/ but it's 
a bit out of date, now...

Here's the procedure I used to "relibtoolize" libiconv.  Libiconv is a 
worst-case example: they distribute their own fork of autoconf itself, 
they redistribute system m4 macros, ... they're just plain evil.  But, 
if you can understand *this*, then "relibtoolizing" anything else should 
be a piece of cake...

Short version: remove autogenerated files.  Replace "standard" files 
with the newest versions (install-sh, mkinstalldirs, config.guess, 
config.sub) -- you can also just remove these and let the autotools copy 
in what they need (use the --force --c -a switches, or their analog: not 
every tool has exactly the same syntax).  Rerun the the autotools in the 
proper order (more later).

#1) libiconv actually ships its OWN VERSION of autoconf.  This is dumb.

rm autoconf/acgeneral.m4
rm autoconf/acspecific.m4
rm autoconf/aclocal.m4
rm autoconf/autoconf
rm autoconf/autoconf.m4
rm autoconf/mbstate_t.m4

#2) remove the "normal" distribution files that are created by autoconf.

rm autoconf/install-sh
rm autoconf/config.guess
rm autoconf/config.sub
rm configure

#3) remove the obsolete libtool files (libtool no longer uses "ltmain.sh")

rm autoconf/ltmain.sh

#4) I don't like hiding the autofiles, so I removed the subdir and will 
change configure.in appropriately, but you don't have to do that.

rmdir autoconf

#5) libiconv doesn't use automake, but it does distribute some scripts 
from automake.  Replace them with the current versions.  (Actually, 
libiconv only distributed install-sh; it used the mkinstalldirs from the 
libcharset subdirectory, "proper" auto* usage requires that each 
separately configure project have its own copy...and of course, I put 
install-sh in the top directory, libiconv had it in the autoconf subdir)

cp /usr/autotool/devel/share/automake/mkinstalldirs .
cp /usr/autotool/devel/share/automake/install-sh .

#6) repeat steps 1-4 for the libcharset subdirectory.  Normally, this is 
unnecessary, but libiconv actually treats libcharset as a separate 
project, with it's own configure script and suchlike...

rm libcharset/autoconf/aclocal.m4
rm libcharset/autoconf/mkinstalldirs
rm libcharset/autoconf/install-sh
rm libcharset/autoconf/config.guess
rm libcharset/autoconf/config.sub
rm libcharset/autoconf/ltmain.sh
rm libcharset/configure
rmdir libcharset/autoconf

#7) libcharset also includes its own copies of some .m4 scripts that are 
part of gettext.  Use the system ones.

rm libcharset/m4/codeset.m4
rm libcharset/m4/glibc21.m4

#8) AND we're going to use the system libtool...and cleanup.

rm libcharset/m4/libtool.m4
rm libcharset/m4/ChangeLog
rmdir libcharset/m4

#9) Similar to step #5, replace the "automake" files with the latest 
version (even though libcharset doesn't use automake...).  Both 
mkinstalldirs and install-sh WERE in the autoconf subdir of libcharset; 
I put them in the top level (of libcharset).  Each separately configured 
project needs its own copy...

cp /usr/autotool/devel/share/automake/mkinstalldirs libcharset/
cp /usr/autotool/devel/share/automake/install-sh libcharset/

#10) As promised, I need to change a few items in configure.in (e.g. 
don't use the "autoconf" subdir (or libcharset/autoconf or 
libcharset/m4).  Also, since the "special" versions of the autoconf 
files that libiconv distributes were slightly modified -- okay, they 
were distributing a fork -- I parsed out the differences they had, and 
put those macros into acinclude.m4...

The patch is attached.

The patch also AC_PREREQ's 2.52 instead of 2.13 (I want to use the 
-devel tree), but that required a few other changes due to 
incompatibilities (AC_OUTPUT_SUBDIRS ---> AC_CONFIG_SUBDIRS, etc)

Normally, you'd also re-run autoheader at some point, but that didn't 
work (thanks to the fact that libiconv uses a forked autoconf dist...) 
So I patched libcharset/config.h.in by hand...

#11) Okay, here's the meat:  First, we relibtoolize libcharset:

cd libcharset
aclocal
libtoolize -c -f
aclocal # (again)
autoconf

cd 
aclocal
libtoolize -c -f
aclocal # (again)
autoconf

Why the second aclocal step?  Because libtoolize adds additional stuff 
in configure.in, which require additional macros to be pulled into 
aclocal.m4.  Why not run libtoolize first, and then aclocal?  Because 
libtoolize needs a pre-existing aclocal.m4...

Normally, you'd run "automake -a -c" between the second aclocal and 
autoconf, but libiconv doesn't use automake.  Also, you'd normally run 
autoheader after the second aclocal -- but we can't because libiconv sucks.

Finally, you should be able to configure and make as "normal":

conf() {
   (cd ${objdir} && \
   ${srcdir}/configure --build=${host} --target=${target} \
   --srcdir=${srcdir} --prefix=${prefix} \
   --exec-prefix=${prefix} --sysconfdir=${sysconfdir} \
   --libdir=${prefix}/lib --includedir=${prefix}/include \
   --enable-shared --enable-static )
}


 > Is the general idea here that I would just be working on the config files
 > and makefiles, rather than having to make extensive internal changes 
to the
 > way that libraries are loaded?


Yes.

--Chuck


Harold Hunt wrote:

> Chuck,
> 
> Could you give a few more notes on "relibtoolize"?  A pointer to some good
> documentation would be helpful...
> 
> Is the general idea here that I would just be working on the config files
> and makefiles, rather than having to make extensive internal changes to the
> way that libraries are loaded?
> 
> Harold
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
>>[mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Charles Wilson
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:48 AM
>>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
>>Cc: cygx
>>Subject: Re: mkdll.sh
>>
>>
>>You could probably do the following:
>>
>>get rid of mkdll.sh
>>relibtoolize/autoconf using the "-devel" tools (e.g. make sure that
>>configure.in has "AC_PREREQ(2.52)")
>>
>>./configure; make;
>>
>>It oughta work. 
>>
>>--chuck
>>
>>
>>Harold Hunt wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Steve,
>>>
>>>I'm working on creating Cygwin setup.exe packages for Gnome...
>>>
>>I know, it's
>>
>>>buggy but I'd like to get a start.  One problem I'm having with
>>>
>>your patches
>>
>>>is that they use mkdll.sh but they don't cause configure to
>>>
>>copy the file to
>>
>>>a build directory.
>>>
>>>For example:
>>>
>>>tar xzf glib-1.2.10.tar.gz
>>>cd glib-1.2.10
>>>patch -p1 < ../glib-1.2.10-cygwin.patch
>>>mkdir build
>>>cd build
>>>../configure
>>>[yada yada yada]
>>>make
>>>[yada yada yada]
>>>mkdir .libs
>>>ar cru .libs/libglib.a  garray.o gcache.o gcompletion.o
>>>
>>gdataset.o gdate.o
>>
>>>gerro
>>>r.o ghash.o ghook.o giochannel.o giounix.o glist.o gmain.o gmem.o
>>>gmessages.o gm
>>>utex.o gnode.o gprimes.o grel.o gscanner.o gslist.o gstrfuncs.o
>>>
>>gstring.o
>>
>>>gtimer
>>>.o gtree.o gutils.o
>>>ranlib .libs/libglib.a
>>>creating libglib.la
>>>(cd .libs && rm -f libglib.la && ln -s ../libglib.la libglib.la)
>>>cd .libs && PREFIX=/usr sh ../mkdll.sh libglib.la
>>>../mkdll.sh: Can't open ../mkdll.sh: No such file or directory
>>>make[2]: *** [libglib.la] Error 2
>>>make[2]: Leaving directory
>>>`/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
>>>10/.build'
>>>make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>>>make[1]: Leaving directory
>>>`/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
>>>10/.build'
>>>make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
>>>
>>>
>>>Eventually I always reach a point where mkdll.sh can't be found because
>>>configure didn't copy it to the out-of-the-tree build directory.
>>>
>>>Got any ideas on how to fix this?
>>>
>>>Harold
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 

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From francois.perrot@cgey.com  Tue Apr 30 12:08:00 2002
From: francois.perrot@cgey.com (Francois Perrot)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:08:00 -0000
Subject: cut and paste from MS windows app to xfree (xfce) app
References: <3CCEBB88.2E1D3858@lucent.com>
Message-ID: <014001c1f05f$564f6e10$9b4e430a@cgey.cgey.fr>

Hi Peter,

What about using xwinclip ? It's definitly a GREAT improuvement in cygwin
users everyday's life.
You'll find it in the xfree page...

Fran??ois "The Happy xwinclip User..." Perrot

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter W. Colovas" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 5:43 PM
Subject: cut and paste from MS windows app to xfree (xfce) app


> How do I cut and paste from MS windows app to xfree (xfce) app? I can't
> find anything about it in the docs or archives. Is it specific to each
> WM?
> Thanks,
> -Pete


From steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com  Tue Apr 30 13:55:00 2002
From: steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com (Steven O'Brien)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 13:55:00 -0000
Subject: mkdll.sh
In-Reply-To: <3CCE3E34.3040401@ece.gatech.edu>
References: 
	<3CCE3E34.3040401@ece.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <20020430195347.137a7949.steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com>

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 02:48:20 -0400
Charles Wilson  wrote:

> You could probably do the following:
> 
> get rid of mkdll.sh
> relibtoolize/autoconf using the "-devel" tools (e.g. make sure that 
> configure.in has "AC_PREREQ(2.52)")
> 
> ./configure; make;
> 
> It oughta work. 
> 
> --chuck
> 
> 
> Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> > Steve,
> > 
> > I'm working on creating Cygwin setup.exe packages for Gnome... I know, it's
> > buggy but I'd like to get a start.  One problem I'm having with your patches
> > is that they use mkdll.sh but they don't cause configure to copy the file to
> > a build directory.

> > Eventually I always reach a point where mkdll.sh can't be found because
> > configure didn't copy it to the out-of-the-tree build directory.
> > 
> > Got any ideas on how to fix this?
> > 
> > Harold

This port is really an experiment. It was started before the cygwin libtool was available, and before the auto-import function of ld was available, and it's showing that age. Chuck is right, mkdll is not at all suitable for a general distribution. 
There are in fact several different incarnations of the mkdll script in the various gnome patches. glib was one of the first packages I played with, so it was done with the least knowledge and experience, and hence is one of the most inflexible.
You could try making the path to mkdll relative to the source tree rather than the current working directory, for example by using $(top_srcdir)/mkdll.sh instead of ../mkdll.sh in Makefile.in
Actually the next phase of my plan was to understand the use of autotools, and apply them to the gnome 2 packages. It should be easier there because gnome 2 has standardised on autoconf 2.5.x, whereas the gnome 1.4 packages use various old autoconf/automake versions. I have not been in any hurry though because gnome 2 is still changing much too quickly for me to have a hope of keeping up. 

Steven


From steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com  Tue Apr 30 21:20:00 2002
From: steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com (Steven O'Brien)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:20:00 -0000
Subject: By the way...
In-Reply-To: <3CCEB0EA.7020804@ece.gatech.edu>
References: 
	<3CCEB0EA.7020804@ece.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <20020430195848.42728ae1.steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com>

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:57:46 -0400
Charles Wilson  wrote:

> Harold Hunt wrote:
> 
> > ... I added a link to your Cygwin Gnome page to Cygwin/XFree86's Ported
> > Software page:
> > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ported-software.html
> > 
> > I'm very impressed with your work to compile Gnome with DLLs.  Keep it up!
> 
> 
> A couple of things:
> 
> 1) pkgconfig.  I'm the cygwin pkgconfig maintainer, and I'd like to 
> insure that you can use the "official" version in your port.  You are 
> using a patched version of 0.8.0; cygwin distributes 0.10.0; but 0.12.0 
> is now available.  Could you try 0.12.0 (unpatched and/or patched) and 
> see if that works for you?

I'll add that to the list of jobs ...
When I started work on gnome-vfs pkg-config was not in the "official" cygwin distribution and 0.8.0 was the latest version. I patched it to remove the included glib, so that it uses my glib port. When pkgconfig was added to cygwin I tried it, but gnome-vfs would not build, so I just ignored it. My focus was, and still is, on gnome so doing more work on pkgconfig was of no interest. But I'll certainly try the new one.

> If you must use a patched version of 0.12.0, then I'd consider 
> incorporating that patch into the official cygwin dist; also, in that 
> case, we could submit your patch upstream for incorporation into the 
> "real" 0.13.0...
 
As the patch just removes the embedded glib, I think its of no use to the "real" pkgconfig.


> 3) cygextras: why not submit these as patches to the cygwin DLL? If it 
> is because the code is from gnu libc, then you could in partnership with 
> someone else, reimplement them and submit the result: your partner would 
> actually write the code to the specifications you develop; you would 
> verify that the result operates the same as the current version. 
> ("Chinese Firewall").  Then, assign copyright on the reimplementations 
> to Red Hat/Cygwin, and submit!

cygextras contains strptime and getdelim. I understand the strptime is "coming soon" to cygwin anyway, so I'll just drop mine then. getdelim came from the gnu C library. Again its just a distraction from working on gnome, and I'll leave it to others to add it to cygwin.

> 
> 4) berkeley db: folks have been asking for this for a long time.  Would 
> you consider packaging it up and submitting it as an official package? 
> (Don't worry about the tcl thing; you needn't be able to run the test 
> suite on an "official ports only" system).  side note: any idea why 
> Gnome doesn't use the GNU database instead? gdbm?

No. I don't have any free time to support cygwin packages, although I do have great respect for those, such as yourself, who do. I think that gnome no longer requires version 2.7.7, but has moved on to version 3.x.x. This patched version did actually pass its test suite when I first did it, but I no longer have access to the cygwin tcl port I used, so I cannot reproduce the result.

Steven


From Nils.Lichtenfeld@gmx.net  Tue Apr 30 21:28:00 2002
From: Nils.Lichtenfeld@gmx.net (Nils Lichtenfeld)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:28:00 -0000
Subject: Display CDE through ssh?
Message-ID: <015d01c1f07a$a60b9da0$9603a8c0@Gundy>

Hello there!

I am totaly new to this project. Installed cygwin/XFree86 like told in
the documentation. Also managed to connect to my university through ssh
and started some x-applications like mozill etc. by following the
documentation. Beautifull!

The machines at the university run HPUX with CDE. Is it possible to get
the CDE-userinterface shown remoteley (like realy sitting infront of
one).

Greetings, Nils


From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu  Tue Apr 30 22:55:00 2002
From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 22:55:00 -0000
Subject: By the way...
References: 	<3CCEB0EA.7020804@ece.gatech.edu> <20020430195848.42728ae1.steven.obrien2@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <3CCF04D6.30005@ece.gatech.edu>

Steven O'Brien wrote:
 >> 1) pkgconfig.  I'm the cygwin pkgconfig maintainer, and I'd like
 >
 > I'll add that to the list of jobs ... When I started work on
 > gnome-vfs pkg-config was not in the "official" cygwin distribution
 > and 0.8.0 was the latest version. I patched it to remove the
 > included glib, so that it uses my glib port. When pkgconfig was
 > added to cygwin I tried it, but gnome-vfs would not build, so I
 > just ignored it. My focus was, and still is, on gnome so doing more
 >  work on pkgconfig was of no interest. But I'll certainly try the
 > new one.

What was the rationale for removing the included glib?  It was put into 
pkgconfig in order to break the recursive dependence: glib requires 
pkgconfig which requires glib which ...

Granted, the version of glib included in pkgconfig is old (but it's 
capable enough for what pkgconfig needs) and has a one-line bug when 
compiling on cygwin; I just patch that and move on...

Anyway, if your version of pkgconfig (0.8.0 + local glib) compiled 
gnome-vfs (on a particular date), yet the "official" cygwin version of 
pkgconfig (0.10.0) failed to do so:

I would think the problem is either:
   something broke in the real pkgconfig sources between 0.8.0 and 0.10.0
or
   gnome-vfs (on the particular date) was either exploiting a bug in 
pkgconfig-0.8.0, or was otherwise broken.

I don't think the answer is to use (and recommend) that cygwinners who 
want gnome use a old version of pkgconfig with a circular dependency...

Thanks for offering to try with "real" pkgconfig-0.12.0.  You'll 
probably need to apply this patch (if you keep the included static glib):

--- pkgconfig-0.10.0-orig/glib-1.2.8/gstrfuncs.c        Mon Apr 17 
11:05:16 2000
+++ pkgconfig-0.10.0/glib-1.2.8/gstrfuncs.c     Sat Feb 23 01:38:15 2002
@@ -671,7 +671,7 @@
    char *msg;

  #ifdef HAVE_STRSIGNAL
-  extern char *strsignal (int sig);
+  extern const char *strsignal (int sig);
    return strsignal (signum);
  #elif NO_SYS_SIGLIST
    switch (signum)

I look forward to seeing the results of your experiment.

 >> If you must use a patched version of 0.12.0, then I'd consider 
incorporating
 >>  that patch into the official cygwin dist; also, in that  case,
 >> we could submit your patch upstream for incorporation into the  "real"
 >>  0.13.0...
 >>
 >
 > As the patch just removes the embedded glib, I think its of no use
 > to the "real" pkgconfig.

Yep, you're right.

 >> 3) cygextras: why not submit these as patches to the cygwin DLL?
 >
 > cygextras contains strptime and getdelim. I understand the strptime
 > is "coming soon" to cygwin anyway, so I'll just drop mine then.
 > getdelim came from the gnu C library. Again its just a distraction
 > from working on gnome, and I'll leave it to others to add it to
 > cygwin.

Understood.

 >> 4) berkeley db: folks have been asking for this for a long time.
 >
 > No. I don't have any free time to support cygwin packages, although
 > I do have great respect for those, such as yourself, who do. I
 > think that gnome no longer requires version 2.7.7, but has moved on
 >  to version 3.x.x. This patched version did actually pass its test
 > suite when I first did it, but I no longer have access to the
 > cygwin tcl port I used, so I cannot reproduce the result.

'Kay.  Looks like there's a volunteer on the case...

--Chuck


From huntharo@msu.edu  Tue Apr 30 23:58:00 2002
From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 23:58:00 -0000
Subject: mkdll.sh
In-Reply-To: <3CCEBCAD.30904@ece.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: 

Chuck,

Excellent.  You know that your write-up won't be a wasted effort on me.  :)

I'll be looking at this next week.

Harold

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Wilson [mailto:cwilson@ece.gatech.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 11:48 AM
> To: Harold Hunt
> Cc: cygx
> Subject: Re: mkdll.sh
>
>
> Harold Hunt wrote:
>
>  > Chuck,
>  >
>  > Could you give a few more notes on "relibtoolize"?  A pointer to some
> good
>  > documentation would be helpful...
>
>
> Well, there's the goat book http://sources.redhat.com/autobook/ but it's
> a bit out of date, now...
>
> Here's the procedure I used to "relibtoolize" libiconv.  Libiconv is a
> worst-case example: they distribute their own fork of autoconf itself,
> they redistribute system m4 macros, ... they're just plain evil.  But,
> if you can understand *this*, then "relibtoolizing" anything else should
> be a piece of cake...
>
> Short version: remove autogenerated files.  Replace "standard" files
> with the newest versions (install-sh, mkinstalldirs, config.guess,
> config.sub) -- you can also just remove these and let the autotools copy
> in what they need (use the --force --c -a switches, or their analog: not
> every tool has exactly the same syntax).  Rerun the the autotools in the
> proper order (more later).
>
> #1) libiconv actually ships its OWN VERSION of autoconf.  This is dumb.
>
> rm autoconf/acgeneral.m4
> rm autoconf/acspecific.m4
> rm autoconf/aclocal.m4
> rm autoconf/autoconf
> rm autoconf/autoconf.m4
> rm autoconf/mbstate_t.m4
>
> #2) remove the "normal" distribution files that are created by autoconf.
>
> rm autoconf/install-sh
> rm autoconf/config.guess
> rm autoconf/config.sub
> rm configure
>
> #3) remove the obsolete libtool files (libtool no longer uses "ltmain.sh")
>
> rm autoconf/ltmain.sh
>
> #4) I don't like hiding the autofiles, so I removed the subdir and will
> change configure.in appropriately, but you don't have to do that.
>
> rmdir autoconf
>
> #5) libiconv doesn't use automake, but it does distribute some scripts
> from automake.  Replace them with the current versions.  (Actually,
> libiconv only distributed install-sh; it used the mkinstalldirs from the
> libcharset subdirectory, "proper" auto* usage requires that each
> separately configure project have its own copy...and of course, I put
> install-sh in the top directory, libiconv had it in the autoconf subdir)
>
> cp /usr/autotool/devel/share/automake/mkinstalldirs .
> cp /usr/autotool/devel/share/automake/install-sh .
>
> #6) repeat steps 1-4 for the libcharset subdirectory.  Normally, this is
> unnecessary, but libiconv actually treats libcharset as a separate
> project, with it's own configure script and suchlike...
>
> rm libcharset/autoconf/aclocal.m4
> rm libcharset/autoconf/mkinstalldirs
> rm libcharset/autoconf/install-sh
> rm libcharset/autoconf/config.guess
> rm libcharset/autoconf/config.sub
> rm libcharset/autoconf/ltmain.sh
> rm libcharset/configure
> rmdir libcharset/autoconf
>
> #7) libcharset also includes its own copies of some .m4 scripts that are
> part of gettext.  Use the system ones.
>
> rm libcharset/m4/codeset.m4
> rm libcharset/m4/glibc21.m4
>
> #8) AND we're going to use the system libtool...and cleanup.
>
> rm libcharset/m4/libtool.m4
> rm libcharset/m4/ChangeLog
> rmdir libcharset/m4
>
> #9) Similar to step #5, replace the "automake" files with the latest
> version (even though libcharset doesn't use automake...).  Both
> mkinstalldirs and install-sh WERE in the autoconf subdir of libcharset;
> I put them in the top level (of libcharset).  Each separately configured
> project needs its own copy...
>
> cp /usr/autotool/devel/share/automake/mkinstalldirs libcharset/
> cp /usr/autotool/devel/share/automake/install-sh libcharset/
>
> #10) As promised, I need to change a few items in configure.in (e.g.
> don't use the "autoconf" subdir (or libcharset/autoconf or
> libcharset/m4).  Also, since the "special" versions of the autoconf
> files that libiconv distributes were slightly modified -- okay, they
> were distributing a fork -- I parsed out the differences they had, and
> put those macros into acinclude.m4...
>
> The patch is attached.
>
> The patch also AC_PREREQ's 2.52 instead of 2.13 (I want to use the
> -devel tree), but that required a few other changes due to
> incompatibilities (AC_OUTPUT_SUBDIRS ---> AC_CONFIG_SUBDIRS, etc)
>
> Normally, you'd also re-run autoheader at some point, but that didn't
> work (thanks to the fact that libiconv uses a forked autoconf dist...)
> So I patched libcharset/config.h.in by hand...
>
> #11) Okay, here's the meat:  First, we relibtoolize libcharset:
>
> cd libcharset
> aclocal
> libtoolize -c -f
> aclocal # (again)
> autoconf
>
> cd 
> aclocal
> libtoolize -c -f
> aclocal # (again)
> autoconf
>
> Why the second aclocal step?  Because libtoolize adds additional stuff
> in configure.in, which require additional macros to be pulled into
> aclocal.m4.  Why not run libtoolize first, and then aclocal?  Because
> libtoolize needs a pre-existing aclocal.m4...
>
> Normally, you'd run "automake -a -c" between the second aclocal and
> autoconf, but libiconv doesn't use automake.  Also, you'd normally run
> autoheader after the second aclocal -- but we can't because
> libiconv sucks.
>
> Finally, you should be able to configure and make as "normal":
>
> conf() {
>    (cd ${objdir} && \
>    ${srcdir}/configure --build=${host} --target=${target} \
>    --srcdir=${srcdir} --prefix=${prefix} \
>    --exec-prefix=${prefix} --sysconfdir=${sysconfdir} \
>    --libdir=${prefix}/lib --includedir=${prefix}/include \
>    --enable-shared --enable-static )
> }
>
>
>  > Is the general idea here that I would just be working on the
> config files
>  > and makefiles, rather than having to make extensive internal changes
> to the
>  > way that libraries are loaded?
>
>
> Yes.
>
> --Chuck
>
>
> Harold Hunt wrote:
>
> > Chuck,
> >
> > Could you give a few more notes on "relibtoolize"?  A pointer
> to some good
> > documentation would be helpful...
> >
> > Is the general idea here that I would just be working on the
> config files
> > and makefiles, rather than having to make extensive internal
> changes to the
> > way that libraries are loaded?
> >
> > Harold
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> >>[mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Charles Wilson
> >>Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:48 AM
> >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> >>Cc: cygx
> >>Subject: Re: mkdll.sh
> >>
> >>
> >>You could probably do the following:
> >>
> >>get rid of mkdll.sh
> >>relibtoolize/autoconf using the "-devel" tools (e.g. make sure that
> >>configure.in has "AC_PREREQ(2.52)")
> >>
> >>./configure; make;
> >>
> >>It oughta work. 
> >>
> >>--chuck
> >>
> >>
> >>Harold Hunt wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Steve,
> >>>
> >>>I'm working on creating Cygwin setup.exe packages for Gnome...
> >>>
> >>I know, it's
> >>
> >>>buggy but I'd like to get a start.  One problem I'm having with
> >>>
> >>your patches
> >>
> >>>is that they use mkdll.sh but they don't cause configure to
> >>>
> >>copy the file to
> >>
> >>>a build directory.
> >>>
> >>>For example:
> >>>
> >>>tar xzf glib-1.2.10.tar.gz
> >>>cd glib-1.2.10
> >>>patch -p1 < ../glib-1.2.10-cygwin.patch
> >>>mkdir build
> >>>cd build
> >>>../configure
> >>>[yada yada yada]
> >>>make
> >>>[yada yada yada]
> >>>mkdir .libs
> >>>ar cru .libs/libglib.a  garray.o gcache.o gcompletion.o
> >>>
> >>gdataset.o gdate.o
> >>
> >>>gerro
> >>>r.o ghash.o ghook.o giochannel.o giounix.o glist.o gmain.o gmem.o
> >>>gmessages.o gm
> >>>utex.o gnode.o gprimes.o grel.o gscanner.o gslist.o gstrfuncs.o
> >>>
> >>gstring.o
> >>
> >>>gtimer
> >>>.o gtree.o gutils.o
> >>>ranlib .libs/libglib.a
> >>>creating libglib.la
> >>>(cd .libs && rm -f libglib.la && ln -s ../libglib.la libglib.la)
> >>>cd .libs && PREFIX=/usr sh ../mkdll.sh libglib.la
> >>>../mkdll.sh: Can't open ../mkdll.sh: No such file or directory
> >>>make[2]: *** [libglib.la] Error 2
> >>>make[2]: Leaving directory
> >>>`/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
> >>>10/.build'
> >>>make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> >>>make[1]: Leaving directory
> >>>`/home/Administrator/x-devel/gnome/glib/tmp/glib-1.2.
> >>>10/.build'
> >>>make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Eventually I always reach a point where mkdll.sh can't be found because
> >>>configure didn't copy it to the out-of-the-tree build directory.
> >>>
> >>>Got any ideas on how to fix this?
> >>>
> >>>Harold
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>