From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Sun Nov 11 11:36:00 2001 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:36:00 -0000 Subject: xserver crashes on qt3 example xform Message-ID: <00f801c16ae8$db4343a0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Hi, the xform example app from qt3 causes an xserver crash with the following message: Fatal server error: Beziers this big not yet supported Regards Ralf From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Nov 11 12:06:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:06:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 53 Message-ID: Notice: Test53 needs to be tested thoroughly, as it is likely that I have broken things. Furthermore, Test53 will probably be the server that is used in XFree86 4.2.0, so any outstanding bugs need to be fixed within a week or two. Links: I just posted Test 53 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test53.exe.bz2 (1074 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20011111-1500.tar.bz2 (69 KiB) Changes: 1) winkeybd.c - winRestoreModeKeyStates () - This function is supposed to handle the case where the user switches out of Cygwin/XFree86, changes the state of a mode key (i.e. Num Lock), then returns to Cygwin/XFree86. Back in May I replaced a macro, WIN_XOR, with the C binary operator ^. At the time I didn't realize that I was using the binary operator instead of the logical operator. The end result is that some of the mode keys were toggled each time that Cygwin/XFree86 gained and lost focus, regardless of whether the key state had changed. The WIN_XOR macro is being used again, and I have added a note as to why the C xor operator cannot be used. This has been broken for months, I'm really surprised that no one noticed it yet. 2) winwndproc.c - winWindowProc () - Move the mode key state save/restore function calls to the WM_KILLFOCUS and WM_SETFOCUS messages, from the WM_ACTIVATE message. Enjoy, Harold From cgf@redhat.com Sun Nov 11 13:12:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:12:00 -0000 Subject: Make this a subscriber only mailing list? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20011111211224.GA23355@redhat.com> On Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 12:50:24PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote: >> I've just changed the cygwin-apps mailing list so that only subscribers >> to some cygwin mailing list can send email there. >> >> Do we want to do the same thing here? It would probably make spam >> non-existent. > >I quite often am not subscribed to this list, purely for the reason that I >tend to work a little too hard on the project when I am subscribed. How >will I post my release announcements, etc. if I am not subscribed? Subscribe to cygwin-xfree-allow: http://sources.redhat.com/lists.html#rbl-sucks cgf From kim.saunders@mercuryit.com.au Sun Nov 11 20:15:00 2001 From: kim.saunders@mercuryit.com.au (Kim Saunders) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:15:00 -0000 Subject: xlib threads, xwinx Message-ID: <1005538536.7699.5.camel@allords> Hi all, First of all, a big thank you to all of you involved in cygwin-xfree and cygwin generally. I've been using cygwin for all the general stuff for a while (when I absolutely *have* to use windows...). More recently, I've used cygwin and cygwin-xfree to create XWinX, a project which some on this list might be interested in. Basically, it's an X client for win32 that uses cygwin and xlib to project the windows desktop into a window on the X server. Details at http://www.xwinx.org/. Anyway, it's definately something that couldn't exist without the hard work of everyone involved with cygwin, xfree86, and cygwin-xfree, so thanks. My question relates to threading with xlib on windows. Calling XInitThreads() seems to return a value suggesting that threading is *not* supported in the xlib distributed with cygwin-xfree. Is this correct? And if threading isn't supported, how hard would it be to support? At present, we are using locking with pthreads to make sure only one thread uses xlib at any given time, but we'd prefer to use native threading with xlib. Thanks, KimS From mark.baxter@4tsolutions.se Mon Nov 12 01:22:00 2001 From: mark.baxter@4tsolutions.se (mark.baxter@4tsolutions.se) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 01:22:00 -0000 Subject: WindowMaker 0.70.0 and the -lX11 problem Message-ID: What is this "-X11" problem you are talking about? I use Windowmaker daily at work on a Cygwin/XF86 installation runing on NT4. For me Windowmaker compiled out of the box. When configuring I used " --disable-locale". I think I used "--prefix=" when I first installed, but that has been some time ago now. I don't think any of my upgrades have required it. My wmaker.exe and wmake.inst ended up in /usr/local/bin/ I hope this helps. /MB |--------+-------------------------------------> | | "Robert Grey" | | | | | | | | | Sent by: | | | cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.| | | redhat.com | | | | | | | | | 09/11/01 17:47 | | | | |--------+-------------------------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com | | cc: | | Subject: WindowMaker 0.70.0 and the -lX11 problem | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Did anyone ever figure out how to fix the stupid windowmaker -lX11 compile problem? I saw a bunch of people blaming each other for whose fault it was but never a resolution. I tried to install 0.70.0 to no avail and 0.65.1 to no avail. I did the manual compiles to get through a build but after a "make install" I can't find the binary wmaker or the wmaker.inst anywhere outside of the package. Has anyone gotten through a COMPLETE install of either one of these versions on cygwin or should I give up? -Rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Mon Nov 12 01:33:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 01:33:00 -0000 Subject: xlib threads, xwinx In-Reply-To: <1005538536.7699.5.camel@allords> References: <1005538536.7699.5.camel@allords> Message-ID: <20011112093332.A2957@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 03:15:35PM +1100, Kim Saunders wrote: > Hi all, > > First of all, a big thank you to all of you involved in cygwin-xfree and > cygwin generally. I've been using cygwin for all the general stuff for a > while (when I absolutely *have* to use windows...). > > More recently, I've used cygwin and cygwin-xfree to create XWinX, a > project which some on this list might be interested in. Basically, it's > an X client for win32 that uses cygwin and xlib to project the windows > desktop into a window on the X server. Details at http://www.xwinx.org/. > > Anyway, it's definately something that couldn't exist without the hard > work of everyone involved with cygwin, xfree86, and cygwin-xfree, so > thanks. > > My question relates to threading with xlib on windows. Calling > XInitThreads() seems to return a value suggesting that threading is > *not* supported in the xlib distributed with cygwin-xfree. Is this > correct? > Yes. In 4.1.0 it is disabled. In the upcoming 4.2.0 release (or use the current CVS) it is supported. Alan. From laurent.pinchart@capflow.com Mon Nov 12 02:42:00 2001 From: laurent.pinchart@capflow.com (Laurent Pinchart) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 02:42:00 -0000 Subject: Native GDI engine on Server Test 51 to 53 References: Message-ID: <3BEFA735.5040900@capflow.com> The native GDI engine doesn't work at all on my config, neither on Test 51, Test 52 or Test 53. When the X server window is opened, the background is initially blue. X then draws a few 'X' patterns on the upper left corner, fills the window with white, draws some more patterns and hangs. I attached a screenshot so you can see what kind of pattern is drawn. I'm running Win98 on a PIII. The graphic card is a SiS 6336 (which is probably irrelevant). Tell me if you want me to perform some more tests. Laurent Pinchart From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Mon Nov 12 03:14:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 03:14:00 -0000 Subject: Native GDI engine on Server Test 51 to 53 In-Reply-To: <3BEFA735.5040900@capflow.com> References: <3BEFA735.5040900@capflow.com> Message-ID: <20011112111353.C2957@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 11:40:53AM +0100, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > The native GDI engine doesn't work at all on my config, neither on Test > 51, Test 52 or Test 53. > > When the X server window is opened, the background is initially blue. X > then draws a few 'X' patterns on the upper left corner, fills the window > with white, draws some more patterns and hangs. I attached a screenshot > so you can see what kind of pattern is drawn. > That's because the Native GDI server isn't fully implemented yet, and there's far more work involved with this than the shadow framebuffer approach. Alan. From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Mon Nov 12 04:37:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 04:37:00 -0000 Subject: xlib threads, xwinx References: <1005538536.7699.5.camel@allords> <20011112093332.A2957@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <009f01c16b76$f4b26710$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Hourihane" > > XInitThreads() seems to return a value suggesting that threading is > > *not* supported in the xlib distributed with cygwin-xfree. Is this > > correct? > > > Yes. In 4.1.0 it is disabled. In the upcoming 4.2.0 release (or use the > current CVS) it is supported. Alan, What was the bug in the end? Rob From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Mon Nov 12 04:49:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 04:49:00 -0000 Subject: xlib threads, xwinx In-Reply-To: <009f01c16b76$f4b26710$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> References: <1005538536.7699.5.camel@allords> <20011112093332.A2957@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <009f01c16b76$f4b26710$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <20011112124908.D2957@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 11:38:38PM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Hourihane" > > > XInitThreads() seems to return a value suggesting that threading is > > > *not* supported in the xlib distributed with cygwin-xfree. Is this > > > correct? > > > > > Yes. In 4.1.0 it is disabled. In the upcoming 4.2.0 release (or use > the > > current CVS) it is supported. > > Alan, > What was the bug in the end? > It seems as though the later cygwin releases fixed some of the problems, but the other issues where how to get the linker to 'do the right thing' with dllexport symbols using CONSTANT or DATA declarations. I ended up using the auto-import features, which work a treat. I'll be trying it more extensively with the NativeGDI server, as running two ico's with the shadow stuff is just too slow and jerky. Alan. From laurent.pinchart@capflow.com Mon Nov 12 05:14:00 2001 From: laurent.pinchart@capflow.com (Laurent Pinchart) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 05:14:00 -0000 Subject: Native GDI engine on Server Test 51 to 53 References: <3BEFA735.5040900@capflow.com> <20011112111353.C2957@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <3BEFCADE.9050403@capflow.com> > > >That's because the Native GDI server isn't fully implemented yet, and >there's far more work involved with this than the shadow framebuffer >approach. > [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 51 stated that the Native GDI engine was now able to draw the X background. As it doesn't work properly on my computer, I thought I would report it to the list. Laurent Pinchart From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Mon Nov 12 07:18:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:18:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 53 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20011112151840.G2957@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 03:06:27PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote: > 2) winwndproc.c - winWindowProc () - Move the mode key state > save/restore function calls to the WM_KILLFOCUS and WM_SETFOCUS > messages, from the WM_ACTIVATE message. > Harold, Over the weekend I've been working on the NativeGDI server, and I've come across a few problems that will need some code bashing.... Your currently handling input events in the block/wakeup handlers - this isn't good. Although it works for a shadow framebuffer because of the nature of the way it handles updates to the screen by blitting touched portions of the fb. The secondary problem to this is that your not using the SmartScheduler as this exposes the problem even more. What we need to do is move the input event handling to ProcessInputEvents() - so this won't rely on the block/wakeup handlers being processed. We can re-enable SmartScheduler. Alan. From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Nov 12 12:39:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:39:00 -0000 Subject: Cygx NativeGDI screenshot In-Reply-To: <3BEFE1C1.4050706@capflow.com> Message-ID: Laurent, Hmm... The XWin.log that you sent me was in DOS format, not UNIX format. I'm guessing that you have Cygwin setup for DOS mode mounts, rather than UNIX mode mounts, and I am wondering if this is causing problems with reading in the initial pattern bitmaps (I'm not sure that any are read in, but it is possible). Could you try using UNIX mounts and see what happens? The first part of this answer covers one method of switching your mount mode: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-error-font-eof Thanks, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Laurent Pinchart [mailto:laurent.pinchart@capflow.com] > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:51 AM > To: huntharo@msu.edu > Subject: Re: Cygx NativeGDI screenshot > > > I tried both 24bpp and 16bpp. Here's a screenshot of the final result in > 16bpp, along with XWin.log. > > The screen is filled with white after 46 dialog boxes, and there are (if > I didn't miss any) a total of 102 dialog boxes. > > Laurent Pinchart > > From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Nov 12 12:40:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:40:00 -0000 Subject: xlib threads, xwinx Message-ID: I added a link to XWinX on our Related Sites page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/links.html Very interesting project. Harold From normw@bocnet.com.au Mon Nov 12 17:19:00 2001 From: normw@bocnet.com.au (NormW) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:19:00 -0000 Subject: Install Issues - WinNT Message-ID: <000b01c16be1$41795990$b441ca0a@admin1> Good afternoon from Oz. I am almost a newbie with Unix environments so I don't know how much of the problems are mine. I downloaded Xfree86 for CygWin from our local mirror and an attached text file will indicate the issues encounted in case they may be something other than from my cause. Trust todays accident in New York is an aberation and wish all good fortune. Norm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Install-Issues.txt URL: From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Nov 12 17:42:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:42:00 -0000 Subject: Cygx NativeGDI screenshot In-Reply-To: <3BEFE1C1.4050706@capflow.com> Message-ID: Laurent, Alan and I are both running Windows 2000; we get the same output on our computers (I think). I'm guessing that I probably made a function call that doesn't work so well on Windows 95/98/Me, though I really did try to avoid doing such a thing. Oh well, I'm sure we'll stumble across that errant call sooner or later... Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Laurent Pinchart [mailto:laurent.pinchart@capflow.com] > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:51 AM > To: huntharo@msu.edu > Subject: Re: Cygx NativeGDI screenshot > > > I tried both 24bpp and 16bpp. Here's a screenshot of the final result in > 16bpp, along with XWin.log. > > The screen is filled with white after 46 dialog boxes, and there are (if > I didn't miss any) a total of 102 dialog boxes. > > Laurent Pinchart > > From laurent.pinchart@capflow.com Tue Nov 13 00:02:00 2001 From: laurent.pinchart@capflow.com (Laurent Pinchart) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 00:02:00 -0000 Subject: Cygx NativeGDI screenshot References: Message-ID: <3BF0D330.2060007@capflow.com> > > >Hmm... The XWin.log that you sent me was in DOS format, not UNIX format. >I'm guessing that you have Cygwin setup for DOS mode mounts, rather than >UNIX mode mounts, and I am wondering if this is causing problems with >reading in the initial pattern bitmaps (I'm not sure that any are read in, >but it is possible). Could you try using UNIX mounts and see what happens? > Cygwin is setup for UNIX mode mounts. I guess the mailer messed up XWin.log, as it is in UNIX format here. Sorry :-) Laurent Pinchart From freeweb@nyckelpiga.de Tue Nov 13 03:18:00 2001 From: freeweb@nyckelpiga.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 03:18:00 -0000 Subject: Xvnc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2987645747.20011113114713@familiehaase.de> Hallo Tony, 2001-11-13 11:39:22, du schriebst: > I was wondering if someone had a copy of the cygwin patch for the above > software? I tried a couple binary versions I found floating around, but > they all refuse to work. You are speaking of Xvnc? Sorry, but 1. this (OT) thread is about QT 2. would you mind to subscribe cygwin-xfree at cygwin.com and ask there again? 3. We will move this thread to the xfree list now, too. Gerrit -- convey Information Systems GmbH http://www.convey.de/ Vitalisstra??e 326-328 Gerrit P. Haase D-50933 K??ln gerrit.haase@convey.de Fon: ++49 221 6903922 From freeweb@nyckelpiga.de Tue Nov 13 04:47:00 2001 From: freeweb@nyckelpiga.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 04:47:00 -0000 Subject: Install Issues - WinNT In-Reply-To: <000b01c16be1$41795990$b441ca0a@admin1> References: <000b01c16be1$41795990$b441ca0a@admin1> Message-ID: <4192207887.20011113130315@familiehaase.de> Hallo NormW, 2001-11-13 12:59:29, du schriebst: The files you downloaded were in gzip format, just your download utlity broke things and renamed it from tgz to tar or unpacked it on the fly. Use ftp to do downloads. It will work as it is stated in the instructions (you read them?). Gerrit -- convey Information Systems GmbH http://www.convey.de/ Vitalisstra??e 326-328 Gerrit P. Haase D-50933 K??ln gerrit.haase@convey.de Fon: ++49 221 6903922 From Clark.Cooper@vc3.com Tue Nov 13 06:17:00 2001 From: Clark.Cooper@vc3.com (Clark Cooper) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 06:17:00 -0000 Subject: all upper case Message-ID: <200111131416.fADEGaI16537@doit.sc.slr.com> I am running cygwin/xfree on a Windows 2000 system and am experiencing a condition in which all upper case letters are enforced in my X windows. It is almost as if the shift key has been applied (typing a number returns not the number but the shift function (*,%,$,#)). Exiting and restarting cygin/xfree clears the condition. Also, is there a way to cut and past back and forth between windows and the X environment? thank you, Clark Cooper From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Nov 13 06:24:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 06:24:00 -0000 Subject: all upper case In-Reply-To: <200111131416.fADEGaI16537@doit.sc.slr.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Clark Cooper wrote: > I am running cygwin/xfree on a Windows 2000 system and am experiencing a > condition in which all upper case letters are enforced in my X windows. > It is almost as if the shift key has been applied (typing a number > returns not the number but the shift function (*,%,$,#)). Exiting and > restarting cygin/xfree clears the condition. Pressing the right shift key cleared the situation in some cases for me. > Also, is there a way to cut and past back and forth between windows and > the X environment? Yes, look for xwinclip on http://xfree.cygwin.com bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From druid@psu.edu Tue Nov 13 07:31:00 2001 From: druid@psu.edu (Ryan W Sims) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 07:31:00 -0000 Subject: xterm and cygwin v.1.3.5-1 Message-ID: <3BF0F556.4463.10B823@localhost> I upgraded to the latest version of cygwin last night, and now xterm seems to be broken. When I bring it up, all my toolkit options are correct, but I get no prompt, no tab support, no command scrolling, and ssh tells me something about stdin not being a terminal. When I telnet into another computer, I get it's prompt, at least... When I bring up man pages or pipe anything to less, it just scrolls through the whole thing without stopping. There doesn't seem to be any way to fix this buy changing options to xterm, and the problem exists in both icewm and twm. Help? -- RyanWDruid From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Nov 13 07:39:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 07:39:00 -0000 Subject: xterm and cygwin v.1.3.5-1 In-Reply-To: <3BF0F556.4463.10B823@localhost> References: <3BF0F556.4463.10B823@localhost> Message-ID: <20011113153919.F3021@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 10:26:30AM -0800, Ryan W Sims wrote: > I upgraded to the latest version of cygwin last night, and now xterm > seems to be broken. When I bring it up, all my toolkit options are > correct, but I get no prompt, no tab support, no command scrolling, and > ssh tells me something about stdin not being a terminal. When I telnet > into another computer, I get it's prompt, at least... When I bring up man > pages or pipe anything to less, it just scrolls through the whole thing > without stopping. There doesn't seem to be any way to fix this buy > changing options to xterm, and the problem exists in both icewm and > twm. Help? > Upgrade to 1.3.5-2. It seems something is broken with 1.3.5-1. Alan. From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Nov 13 12:50:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:50:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 Documentation 0.9.4 Message-ID: Links: I just posted release 0.9.4 to the documentation development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/documentation/ Documentation, formatted, direct links: Contributor's Guide http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg User's Guide http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/ FAQ http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ Documentation source releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/documentation/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). Documentation source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/docs/cygwin-xfree-doc-0.9.4.tar.gz (271 KiB) Changes: 1) All - Use SI prefixes for binary file sizes. See The NIST Reference on Constants, Units, and Uncertainty (http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html) for more information. 2) All - Check and correct spelling. 3) CG - Wrote two and a half pages in the Server Architecture - User Input section. Enjoy, Harold From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Tue Nov 13 14:29:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:29:00 -0000 Subject: console/GUI programs... FW: [ros-kernel] Re: Striped VIM for ReactOS Message-ID: This may be of interest to some folk.... I'm going to see if I can find such prolog code in gcc anywhere, and if so create a variant just for the mixed mode programs (such as setup.exe, the X server etc). Rob > -----Original Message----- > From: Craig Barkhouse [mailto:craig@wanware.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:43 AM > To: ros-kernel@reactos.com > Subject: [ros-kernel] Re: Striped VIM for ReactOS > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Collins" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:11 PM > Subject: [ros-kernel] Re: Striped VIM for ReactOS > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Craig Barkhouse > > > To: ros-kernel@reactos.com > > > Sent: 11/12/01 1:40 PM > > > Subject: [ros-kernel] Re: Bug Report - VIM for Win32 > > > > > > The difference is mainly what the compiler inserts into > your program > > as > > > startup code. > > > I thought a GUI app was _not_ passed the console handle when it's > > started from cmd.exe (or an equivalent). > > > > Thats more than a compiler difference IMO. > > > > If however, this is a compiler issue, please please please > let me know > > what call is in the prolog to get attach to the console - the only > > AttachConsole call I know of is in XP, and the behaviour of > not getting > > the console handle has existed since win95. > > By default, a newly created process inherits the same console > (if any) of its parent, unless the process was created using > the CREATE_NEW_CONSOLE flag. Console apps therefore don't > have to call anything special in order to attach to the > console if they are launched from a process that is attached > to a console. To handle the case where they are launched > from a process that is not attached to a console (a "GUI" > app), "console" apps have an explicit call to AllocConsole() > in the startup code that gets executed before main(). This > call silently fails when the app has already inherited a console. > "GUI" apps, on the other hand, don't want a console. When > they are luanched from a process that is not attached to a > console (a "GUI" app), they're fine. To handle the case > where they are launched from a process that is attached to a > console (a "console" app), "GUI" apps have an explicit call > to FreeConsole() in the startup code that gets executed > before WinMain(). This call silently fails when the app > hadn't inherited a console. So you see, it's not that the > GUI app never had access to the parent console; it's that the > GUI app has voluntarily detached itself. How do you get back > to that console? I guess XP's new AttachConsole() API > function does that. Prior to that, you could only ensure > that you were attached to *some* console by calling AllocConsole(). > To summarize, the main difference between console apps and > GUI apps is whether the app calls AllocConsole() ("console") > or FreeConsole() ("GUI") at startup time. It is my > understanding that it is the compiler which inserts this > startup code for doing any initialization tasks -- such as > setting up the *argv[] array -- before launching the user's > main function. The compiler knows which way to write the > startup code based on the /SUBSYSTEM: option you pass it, or > based on a default set of rules (main()? console; WinMain()? > GUI). This being the case, if the compiler allows you to > write this code yourself (I *think* VC++ 6.0 does, but I'm > not 100% sure and I can't find the option right now), you > could in theory create an app that ran as a GUI app when > launched from a GUI app, but ran as a console app when > launched from a console app. > > > ==================o remove yourself from this mailing list, > go to =ttp://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html > ================= > From cgf@redhat.com Tue Nov 13 18:11:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:11:00 -0000 Subject: xterm and cygwin v.1.3.5-1 In-Reply-To: <20011113153919.F3021@fairlite.demon.co.uk> References: <3BF0F556.4463.10B823@localhost> <20011113153919.F3021@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011114021132.GD1335@redhat.com> On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 03:39:19PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: >On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 10:26:30AM -0800, Ryan W Sims wrote: >> I upgraded to the latest version of cygwin last night, and now xterm >> seems to be broken. When I bring it up, all my toolkit options are >> correct, but I get no prompt, no tab support, no command scrolling, and >> ssh tells me something about stdin not being a terminal. When I telnet >> into another computer, I get it's prompt, at least... When I bring up man >> pages or pipe anything to less, it just scrolls through the whole thing >> without stopping. There doesn't seem to be any way to fix this buy >> changing options to xterm, and the problem exists in both icewm and >> twm. Help? >> >Upgrade to 1.3.5-2. It seems something is broken with 1.3.5-1. There were no bug fixes in 1.3.5-1 except one very minor one with key down events when a console is in raw mode. Since xterm is not a console application, I don't know how that could help. cgf From cgf@redhat.com Tue Nov 13 19:27:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:27:00 -0000 Subject: console/GUI programs... FW: [ros-kernel] Re: Striped VIM for ReactOS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20011114031229.GE1335@redhat.com> On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 09:36:32AM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: >This may be of interest to some folk.... > >I'm going to see if I can find such prolog code in gcc anywhere, and if >so create a variant just for the mixed mode programs (such as setup.exe, >the X server etc). I think the author is slightly confused. The subsystem bit is set in the executable header. MSVC's dumpbin.exe shows executables as either a "CUI" if it is a console app or a "GUI" if it is a windows app. I'm pretty sure that the decision on how to handle the console is done by the windows loader. AFAIK, it's not up to program control as to whether the program inherits a console or not. If there was prologue code, it would somehow be invoked by -mwindows. If you look at the code in gcc, you can see that the only thing that -mwindows seems to do is pass the '--subsystem windows' option to ld. This does cause the linked program to use a different startup function but I don't think that it does anything magical. cgf >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Craig Barkhouse [mailto:craig@wanware.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:43 AM >> To: ros-kernel@reactos.com >> Subject: [ros-kernel] Re: Striped VIM for ReactOS >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Collins" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:11 PM >> Subject: [ros-kernel] Re: Striped VIM for ReactOS >> >> >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: Craig Barkhouse >> > > To: ros-kernel@reactos.com >> > > Sent: 11/12/01 1:40 PM >> > > Subject: [ros-kernel] Re: Bug Report - VIM for Win32 >> > > >> > > The difference is mainly what the compiler inserts into >> your program >> > as >> > > startup code. >> >> > I thought a GUI app was _not_ passed the console handle when it's >> > started from cmd.exe (or an equivalent). >> > >> > Thats more than a compiler difference IMO. >> > >> > If however, this is a compiler issue, please please please >> let me know >> > what call is in the prolog to get attach to the console - the only >> > AttachConsole call I know of is in XP, and the behaviour of >> not getting >> > the console handle has existed since win95. >> >> By default, a newly created process inherits the same console >> (if any) of its parent, unless the process was created using >> the CREATE_NEW_CONSOLE flag. Console apps therefore don't >> have to call anything special in order to attach to the >> console if they are launched from a process that is attached >> to a console. To handle the case where they are launched >> from a process that is not attached to a console (a "GUI" >> app), "console" apps have an explicit call to AllocConsole() >> in the startup code that gets executed before main(). This >> call silently fails when the app has already inherited a console. >> "GUI" apps, on the other hand, don't want a console. When >> they are luanched from a process that is not attached to a >> console (a "GUI" app), they're fine. To handle the case >> where they are launched from a process that is attached to a >> console (a "console" app), "GUI" apps have an explicit call >> to FreeConsole() in the startup code that gets executed >> before WinMain(). This call silently fails when the app >> hadn't inherited a console. So you see, it's not that the >> GUI app never had access to the parent console; it's that the >> GUI app has voluntarily detached itself. How do you get back >> to that console? I guess XP's new AttachConsole() API >> function does that. Prior to that, you could only ensure >> that you were attached to *some* console by calling AllocConsole(). >> To summarize, the main difference between console apps and >> GUI apps is whether the app calls AllocConsole() ("console") >> or FreeConsole() ("GUI") at startup time. It is my >> understanding that it is the compiler which inserts this >> startup code for doing any initialization tasks -- such as >> setting up the *argv[] array -- before launching the user's >> main function. The compiler knows which way to write the >> startup code based on the /SUBSYSTEM: option you pass it, or >> based on a default set of rules (main()? console; WinMain()? >> GUI). This being the case, if the compiler allows you to >> write this code yourself (I *think* VC++ 6.0 does, but I'm >> not 100% sure and I can't find the option right now), you >> could in theory create an app that ran as a GUI app when >> launched from a GUI app, but ran as a console app when >> launched from a console app. >> >> >> ==================o remove yourself from this mailing list, >> go to =ttp://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html >> ================= >> -- cgf@redhat.com Red Hat, Inc. http://sources.redhat.com/ http://www.redhat.com/ From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Tue Nov 13 19:29:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:29:00 -0000 Subject: console/GUI programs... FW: [ros-kernel] Re: Striped VIM for ReactOS References: <20011114031229.GE1335@redhat.com> Message-ID: <03c401c16cbc$decb2030$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Faylor" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:12 PM Subject: Re: console/GUI programs... FW: [ros-kernel] Re: Striped VIM for ReactOS > On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 09:36:32AM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: > >This may be of interest to some folk.... > > > >I'm going to see if I can find such prolog code in gcc anywhere, and if > >so create a variant just for the mixed mode programs (such as setup.exe, > >the X server etc). > > I think the author is slightly confused. The subsystem bit is set in > the executable header. MSVC's dumpbin.exe shows executables as either a > "CUI" if it is a console app or a "GUI" if it is a windows app. Yes. This has been going back and forth in the reactos list for a few days now. > I'm pretty sure that the decision on how to handle the console is done > by the windows loader. AFAIK, it's not up to program control as to > whether the program inherits a console or not. That is also my understanding. > If there was prologue code, it would somehow be invoked by -mwindows. > If you look at the code in gcc, you can see that the only thing that > -mwindows seems to do is pass the '--subsystem windows' option to ld. > This does cause the linked program to use a different startup function > but I don't think that it does anything magical. I'm going to look into it regardless. If the author is confused, I waste some time. If not, we _may_ have an answer.. Rob From cgf@redhat.com Tue Nov 13 20:30:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 20:30:00 -0000 Subject: sound support more info - kde2 porting status -- still looking for a volunteer In-Reply-To: <20011020235014.D28304@redhat.com> References: <20011020122946.A6118@redhat.com> <000501c15997$b069ebf0$9a6707d5@BRAMSCHE> <20011020235014.D28304@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20011114043027.GA19437@redhat.com> This would be trivial to implement. I'd appreciate it if someone would take a stab at implementing it. cgf On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 11:50:14PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 08:47:37PM +0200, Ralf Habacker wrote: >> >>> >>> >6. the sound support of cygwin isn't ready. Especially setting >>> > of audio buffer size from an application is a problem. >>> > Look in the thread about the rocksndiamond game started with >>> > http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q4/msg00171.html. >>> >>> I didn't see anything which actually set the blocksize in the code >>> fragment that you sent to cygwin-apps. I just saw code which read the >>> block size and said "this should return 512". But, cygwin uses a larger >>> buffer than that. I don't actually see an ioctl for setting the block >>> size under linux, but maybe I missed something. > >Duh. You even mentioned this in your email. Sorry for missing it. > >This looks like more than a simple fix to the fhandler_dsp.cc code but it >should be pretty easy if anyone wants to tackle it? > >Anyone interested in implementing SNDCTL_DSP_SETFRAGMENT? > >cgf >> >>It's called the fragment size and uses the SNDCTL_DSP_SETFRAGMENT ioctl call. >>It seems that the lower word contains the log2 of the buffer size and in the >>higher word the number of buffers are set. Currently Cygwin ignores this call. >> >> /* Example for fragment specification: >> - 2 buffers / 512 bytes (giving 1/16 second resolution for 8 kHz) >> - (with stereo the effective buffer size will shrink to 256) >> => fragment_size = 0x00020009 */ >> >> if (ioctl(audio.device_fd,SNDCTL_DSP_SETFRAGMENT,&fragment_spec) < 0) >> Error(ERR_EXIT_SOUND_SERVER, >> "cannot set fragment size of /dev/dsp - no sounds"); >> >>Ralf > >-- >cgf@cygnus.com Red Hat, Inc. >http://sources.redhat.com/ http://www.redhat.com/ -- cgf@redhat.com Red Hat, Inc. http://sources.redhat.com/ http://www.redhat.com/ From lsmithjr@monster-solutions.net Tue Nov 13 20:47:00 2001 From: lsmithjr@monster-solutions.net (Larry Smith Jr.) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 20:47:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin and XDMCP References: <20011020122946.A6118@redhat.com> <000501c15997$b069ebf0$9a6707d5@BRAMSCHE> <20011020235014.D28304@redhat.com> <20011114043027.GA19437@redhat.com> Message-ID: <005601c16cc7$4e70c6b0$6402a8c0@lsmith5953> All, I am new here. I am trying to get Cygwin working with XDMCP from a Windows 2000 workstation to a Redhat 7.2 server and I am getting the following error. Any Help would be greatly appreciated.. _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root http://www.x10.com/friends/refer.cgi?lsmithjr@atl.mediaone.net From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Nov 13 21:40:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:40:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin and XDMCP Message-ID: Larry, > I am new here. I am trying to get Cygwin working with XDMCP from a > Windows 2000 workstation to a Redhat 7.2 server and I am getting the > following error. Any Help would be greatly appreciated.. Wow, I should write a section in the User's Guide about that! No wait, I already did, months ago: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root Hey, that's an error I've never heard of! 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InfoMarket From trevorforbes@ozemail.com.au Tue Nov 13 23:45:00 2001 From: trevorforbes@ozemail.com.au (Trevor Forbes) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:45:00 -0000 Subject: sound support more info - kde2 porting status -- still looking for a volunteer References: <20011020122946.A6118@redhat.com> <000501c15997$b069ebf0$9a6707d5@BRAMSCHE> <20011020235014.D28304@redhat.com> <20011114043027.GA19437@redhat.com> Message-ID: <007301c16ce0$604fef50$0300a8c0@ufo> Yea, I will give it a go...... Trevor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Faylor" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:00 PM Subject: Re: sound support more info - kde2 porting status -- still looking for a volunteer > This would be trivial to implement. > > I'd appreciate it if someone would take a stab at implementing it. > > cgf > > On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 11:50:14PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 08:47:37PM +0200, Ralf Habacker wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> >6. the sound support of cygwin isn't ready. Especially setting > >>> > of audio buffer size from an application is a problem. > >>> > Look in the thread about the rocksndiamond game started with > >>> > http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q4/msg00171.html. > >>> > >>> I didn't see anything which actually set the blocksize in the code > >>> fragment that you sent to cygwin-apps. I just saw code which read the > >>> block size and said "this should return 512". But, cygwin uses a larger > >>> buffer than that. I don't actually see an ioctl for setting the block > >>> size under linux, but maybe I missed something. > > > >Duh. You even mentioned this in your email. Sorry for missing it. > > > >This looks like more than a simple fix to the fhandler_dsp.cc code but it > >should be pretty easy if anyone wants to tackle it? > > > >Anyone interested in implementing SNDCTL_DSP_SETFRAGMENT? > > > >cgf > >> > >>It's called the fragment size and uses the SNDCTL_DSP_SETFRAGMENT ioctl call. > >>It seems that the lower word contains the log2 of the buffer size and in the > >>higher word the number of buffers are set. Currently Cygwin ignores this call. > >> > >> /* Example for fragment specification: > >> - 2 buffers / 512 bytes (giving 1/16 second resolution for 8 kHz) > >> - (with stereo the effective buffer size will shrink to 256) > >> => fragment_size = 0x00020009 */ > >> > >> if (ioctl(audio.device_fd,SNDCTL_DSP_SETFRAGMENT,&fragment_spec) < 0) > >> Error(ERR_EXIT_SOUND_SERVER, > >> "cannot set fragment size of /dev/dsp - no sounds"); > >> > >>Ralf > > > >-- > >cgf@cygnus.com Red Hat, Inc. > >http://sources.redhat.com/ http://www.redhat.com/ > > -- > cgf@redhat.com Red Hat, Inc. > http://sources.redhat.com/ http://www.redhat.com/ From petereneroth@yahoo.com Wed Nov 14 01:57:00 2001 From: petereneroth@yahoo.com (Peter Eneroth) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 01:57:00 -0000 Subject: setxkbmap bug in XWin-Test49.exe to XWin-Test53.exe Message-ID: <20011114095735.14649.qmail@web21001.mail.yahoo.com> In order to get my swedish keyboard to work, I have used the following command: setxkbmap.exe -layout se This worked fine for me with the original xfree 4.1.0 XWin.exe file and with the XWin-Test48.exe file. However, with XWin-Test49.exe to XWin-Test53.exe the command is broken. I have also tried using a german keyboard, but also this seems to be broken. I use W2000, cygwin 1.3.5, and xfree 4.1.0. Thanks for making xfree availible on Windows! Except for the above problem, it works great for me. Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Wed Nov 14 05:17:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 05:17:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc Message-ID: <20011114131747.C2961@fairlite.demon.co.uk> There are two new libraries in XFree86 CVS - XTrap and fontenc. So currently the cygwin build fails in places. Does someone want to stab at creating the relevant XTrap-def.cpp and fontenc-def.cpp files for the xc/lib/fontenc and xc/lib/XTrap directories. Someone could have a crack at fixing xc/programs/xtrap too then. And ship a patch off to XFree86. Thanks. Alan. From doctorj@blueyonder.co.uk Wed Nov 14 06:23:00 2001 From: doctorj@blueyonder.co.uk (Jonathan Edwards) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 06:23:00 -0000 Subject: Java display problem Message-ID: <01C16D17.DAC36B40.doctorj@blueyonder.co.uk> Hi, I'm trying to run a Java application on my local cygwin/Xfree86 setup (on Windows 98) through ssh forwarding. I have downloaded and installed the standard XFree86 setup. What I want to do is run the Java app on the remote server and then forward the display to my local X setup via ssh. I can run the Application (an Oracle installer program) on the server fine and I can see my X setup is receiving the forwarded connection from the remote server but I just get nothing on my X display. No errors, just nothing. So I wonder if this is a font issue. Can anyone help? Thanks, Jon From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Nov 14 06:40:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 06:40:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc In-Reply-To: <20011114131747.C2961@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Alan Hourihane wrote: > There are two new libraries in XFree86 CVS - XTrap and fontenc. So > currently the cygwin build fails in places. > > Does someone want to stab at creating the relevant XTrap-def.cpp and > fontenc-def.cpp files for the xc/lib/fontenc and xc/lib/XTrap > directories. > > Someone could have a crack at fixing xc/programs/xtrap too then. We had this small script, which grabbed the symbols from the library. I think this will at least give a good base to work on. Is this still in CVS? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From zanottif@iside.bcc.it Wed Nov 14 07:06:00 2001 From: zanottif@iside.bcc.it (Fiorenzo Zanotti) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:06:00 -0000 Subject: Extended keyboard and CDE on AIX4.3 Message-ID: Hi, I'm getting some problems with extended keyboard (italian) accessing an AIX4.3 with CDE. I'm using now a TEST53 version but the same behavior exist in TEST49. Accessing CDE on AIX 4.3 something weird happen with NUMLOCK : When ON 1) keyboard keys doesn't any visible output 2) numeric keypad keys generates numbers When OFF 1) keyboard keys work OK 2) numeric keypad doesn't produce cursor movements but generates numbers as with NUMLOCK ON In any case ALTGR doesn't work : it generates a Mode_switch keypress event, but no characters are generates. The shortest way I found to make ALTGR work (with my server launched as 'start XWin -query aix -xkbmap it' is : xmodmap -e 'keysym Mode_switch = Alt_R' When using XWin to access a Linux system all work fine !!! What do you think about these different behaviours ? (X11 version ? CDE initialization sequence ? XWin problem ?) Fiorenzo From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Wed Nov 14 07:07:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:07:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc In-Reply-To: References: <20011114131747.C2961@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011114150741.B2980@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 03:39:57PM +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > There are two new libraries in XFree86 CVS - XTrap and fontenc. So > > currently the cygwin build fails in places. > > > > Does someone want to stab at creating the relevant XTrap-def.cpp and > > fontenc-def.cpp files for the xc/lib/fontenc and xc/lib/XTrap > > directories. > > > > Someone could have a crack at fixing xc/programs/xtrap too then. > > We had this small script, which grabbed the symbols from the library. > I think this will at least give a good base to work on. Is this still > in CVS? > I don't remember committing any script to auto-generate the cpp files. Are you sure your not getting confused with the auto-generated .def files that come from the .cpp files ? Alan. From jochen@unc.edu Wed Nov 14 07:23:00 2001 From: jochen@unc.edu (Jochen =?iso-8859-1?q?K=FCpper?=) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:23:00 -0000 Subject: latest transfig+xfig working Message-ID: <86lmh9s7fm.fsf@bock.chem.unc.edu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This is simply a report that the latest transfig/xfig (3.2.3d) works essentially out of the box on Cygwin for me, using latest cygwin (yesterday) and cygwin-xfree as of Oct 12. Two changes were necessary, the first one should go into the transfig source: diff -ur transfig.3.2.3d/fig2dev/fig2dev.h transfig.3.2.3d-cygwin/fig2dev/fig2dev.h - --- transfig.3.2.3d/fig2dev/fig2dev.h Fri Jan 12 17:12:09 2001 +++ transfig.3.2.3d-cygwin/fig2dev/fig2dev.h Wed Nov 14 10:03:27 2001 @@ -191,7 +191,8 @@ #endif #if ( !(defined(BSD) && (BSD >= 199306)) && !defined(__NetBSD__) && \ - - !defined(__GNU_LIBRARY__) && !defined(__FreeBSD__) && !defined(__GLIBC__)) + !defined(__GNU_LIBRARY__) && !defined(__FreeBSD__) && \ + !defined(__GLIBC__) && !defined(__CYGWIN__)) extern char *sys_errlist[]; #endif diff -ur xfig.3.2.3d/Imakefile xfig.3.2.3d-cygwin/Imakefile - --- xfig.3.2.3d/Imakefile Tue May 29 14:32:11 2001 +++ xfig.3.2.3d-cygwin/Imakefile Wed Nov 14 10:08:45 2001 @@ -90,7 +90,7 @@ XCOMM Then be sure to change the XAW3DINC to point to the directory where your XCOMM 3D Athena widget headers are located - -#define XAW3D +XCOMM #define XAW3D #ifdef XAW3D XAW3DINC = -I/usr/include/X11/Xaw3d Greetings, Jochen - -- University of North Carolina phone: +1-919-962-4403 Department of Chemistry phone: +1-919-962-1579 Venable Hall CB#3290 (Kenan C148) fax: +1-919-843-6041 Chapel Hill, NC 27599, USA GnuPG key: 44BCCD8E -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6-cygwin-fcn-1 (Cygwin) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt and GnuPG iD8DBQE78oxeiJ/aUUS8zY4RArvYAKCyV9jNQY/LaUu2DbEVCzXAv2yGfgCgjQWL pGRyQFn0GxogvVxNIl2S7BY= =xUjo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kdekorte@yahoo.com Wed Nov 14 08:06:00 2001 From: kdekorte@yahoo.com (Kevin DeKorte) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:06:00 -0000 Subject: XFree and AIX weirdness Message-ID: <20011114160638.24304.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> All, I have some similar weirdness with AIX. I believe that I am running test 53, but am unsure. Is there a way to check? Anyway, when I have numlock on, the keyboard works fine. (Oh the version I am using has the Numlock State change problem, so I need to upgrade anyway). If I turn numlock off then nothing is set to the terminal. Works fine on Solaris 7 and Linux... Running in english with no xmodmaps. I'll upgrade my xfree and get back with more info. Kevin ===== --------------------------------- Kevin DeKorte kdekorte@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com From kdekorte@yahoo.com Wed Nov 14 08:15:00 2001 From: kdekorte@yahoo.com (Kevin DeKorte) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:15:00 -0000 Subject: AIX More Info Message-ID: <20011114161515.60969.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Using Test 53 now Process: telnet to AIX server, from inside bash window in XFree set DISPLAY var on AIX machine to point to XFree start xterm in new xterm window type characters (With numlock on) nothing appears from letter keys, even Enter does not work number pad gives escape characters (With numlock off) letter keys work number pad gives escape characters close xterm window go back to telnet session to server and all keys work fine in either mode. Good news is that NumLock state is correct in 53. Kevin ===== --------------------------------- Kevin DeKorte kdekorte@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Nov 14 08:16:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:16:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc In-Reply-To: <20011114150741.B2980@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Alan Hourihane wrote: > > We had this small script, which grabbed the symbols from the library. > > I think this will at least give a good base to work on. Is this still > > in CVS? > > > I don't remember committing any script to auto-generate the cpp files. > > Are you sure your not getting confused with the auto-generated .def > files that come from the .cpp files ? Actually i meant a Imakefile rule, which tried to generate the .def file from the symbols exported by the library. It seems that this never made it into xfree-cvs. The following commands should print the exported symbols for the dll. nm --demangle --defined-only *.o | sed -n 's/^.* [A-Z] //p' | \ sed '/^typeinfo name\|^typeinfo for\|^vtable for\|^constrution \ vtable for\|^VTT\|:\|)/ d' For details check the thread starting with bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Wed Nov 14 09:18:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:18:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc In-Reply-To: References: <20011114150741.B2980@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011114171819.G2980@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 05:15:49PM +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > > > We had this small script, which grabbed the symbols from the library. > > > I think this will at least give a good base to work on. Is this still > > > in CVS? > > > > > I don't remember committing any script to auto-generate the cpp files. > > > > Are you sure your not getting confused with the auto-generated .def > > files that come from the .cpp files ? > > Actually i meant a Imakefile rule, which tried to generate the .def file > from the symbols exported by the library. It seems that this never made > it into xfree-cvs. > > The following commands should print the exported symbols for the dll. > nm --demangle --defined-only *.o | sed -n 's/^.* [A-Z] //p' | \ > sed '/^typeinfo name\|^typeinfo for\|^vtable for\|^constrution \ > vtable for\|^VTT\|:\|)/ d' > O.k. Can you work out the Imakefile changes needed and do a full World build and send a diff in ? Alan. From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Nov 14 09:26:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:26:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc In-Reply-To: <20011114171819.G2980@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Alan Hourihane wrote: > > Actually i meant a Imakefile rule, which tried to generate the .def file > > from the symbols exported by the library. It seems that this never made > > it into xfree-cvs. > > > O.k. Can you work out the Imakefile changes needed and do a full World > build and send a diff in ? I will create the .def files when I'm back home. 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I'm sorry if this has been discussed before (I'm new to the list), but I couldn't find any info about whether there is a way around this problem, or if a fix is in the works. Thanks for any info. // Andrew MacKenzie // http://www.edespot.com // "Caveat Lector" From steele@cs.fsu.edu Wed Nov 14 16:38:00 2001 From: steele@cs.fsu.edu (Shayne Steele) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 16:38:00 -0000 Subject: Problem displaying Java application Message-ID: <200111150035.fAF0Z3x20799@diablo.cs.fsu.edu> Hello This jar file http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~cis3931/01fall/assignments/a5/Project5.jar works when run under MS-Windows or using StarNet X-Win32 (the color chooser does not work under X-Win32), but fails with XFree86, with the following error: Exception occurred during event dispatching: java.lang.InternalError: Unsupported 16-bit depth at sun.awt.motif.X11Graphics.X11LockViewResources(Native Method) at sun.awt.motif.X11Graphics.lock(X11Graphics.java:847) at sun.java2d.loops.LockableRaster.(Compiled Code) at sun.java2d.loops.RasterOutputManager$RenderImageCachedState.getDstLR(RasterOutputManager.java:368) at sun.java2d.loops.RasterOutputManager.renderImage(RasterOutputManager.java:479) at sun.java2d.SunGraphics2D.renderingPipeImage(Compiled Code) at sun.java2d.SunGraphics2D.drawImage(SunGraphics2D.java:1633) at sun.awt.motif.X11Graphics.drawImage(X11Graphics.java:591) at javax.swing.JComponent.paintWithBuffer(Compiled Code) at javax.swing.JComponent._paintImmediately(Compiled Code) at javax.swing.JComponent.paintImmediately(Compiled Code) at javax.swing.RepaintManager.paintDirtyRegions(Compiled Code) at javax.swing.SystemEventQueueUtilities$ComponentWorkRequest.run(SystemEventQueueUtilities.java:199) at javax.swing.SystemEventQueueUtilities.processRunnableEvent(SystemEventQueueUtilities.java:399) at javax.swing.SystemEventQueueUtilities.access$0(SystemEventQueueUtilities.java:395) at javax.swing.SystemEventQueueUtilities$RunnableTarget.processEvent(SystemEventQueueUtilities.java:436) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Compiled Code) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Compiled Code) at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Compiled Code) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEvent(Compiled Code) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Compiled Code) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:83) -- Shayne Steele Graduate Student in Computer Science at FSU steele@cs.fsu.edu http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~steele/ With great abilities come great responsibilities. -- Stan Lee From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Nov 14 18:05:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:05:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc Message-ID: > > > > We had this small script, which grabbed the symbols from the library. > > > > I think this will at least give a good base to work on. Is this still > > > > in CVS? > > > > > > > I don't remember committing any script to auto-generate the cpp files. > > > > > > Are you sure your not getting confused with the auto-generated .def > > > files that come from the .cpp files ? > > > > Actually i meant a Imakefile rule, which tried to generate the .def file > > from the symbols exported by the library. It seems that this never made > > it into xfree-cvs. > > > > The following commands should print the exported symbols for the dll. > > nm --demangle --defined-only *.o | sed -n 's/^.* [A-Z] //p' | \ > > sed '/^typeinfo name\|^typeinfo for\|^vtable for\|^constrution \ > > vtable for\|^VTT\|:\|)/ d' > > > O.k. Can you work out the Imakefile changes needed and do a full World > build and send a diff in ? If I recall correctly, the reason the 'nm' command was not committed was because it didn't work during cross compiling. I could be wrong, but please send me a patch to test for cross compiling before committing. Alexander - your followup to create the new static .def files sounds good to me. :) Harold From cgf@redhat.com Wed Nov 14 18:09:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:09:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20011115020946.GA2123@redhat.com> On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 09:05:10PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote: >> > > > We had this small script, which grabbed the symbols from the >library. >> > > > I think this will at least give a good base to work on. Is this >still >> > > > in CVS? >> > > > >> > > I don't remember committing any script to auto-generate the cpp files. >> > > >> > > Are you sure your not getting confused with the auto-generated .def >> > > files that come from the .cpp files ? >> > >> > Actually i meant a Imakefile rule, which tried to generate the .def file >> > from the symbols exported by the library. It seems that this never made >> > it into xfree-cvs. >> > >> > The following commands should print the exported symbols for the dll. >> > nm --demangle --defined-only *.o | sed -n 's/^.* [A-Z] //p' | \ >> > sed '/^typeinfo name\|^typeinfo for\|^vtable for\|^constrution \ >> > vtable for\|^VTT\|:\|)/ d' >> > >> O.k. Can you work out the Imakefile changes needed and do a full World >> build and send a diff in ? > >If I recall correctly, the reason the 'nm' command was not committed was >because it didn't work during cross compiling. I could be wrong, but please >send me a patch to test for cross compiling before committing. It's probably obvious but you could do something like: nm=`{i6q86-pc-cygwin-nm --help >/dev/null 2>& 1 && echo i686-pc-cygwin-nm; } || echo nm` and then use '$nm' in the above. Assuming that this was cygwin-specific, of course. cgf From cgf@redhat.com Wed Nov 14 18:14:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:14:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc In-Reply-To: <20011115020946.GA2123@redhat.com> References: <20011115020946.GA2123@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20011115021454.GB2186@redhat.com> On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 09:09:46PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 09:05:10PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote: >>> > > > We had this small script, which grabbed the symbols from the >>library. >>> > > > I think this will at least give a good base to work on. Is this >>still >>> > > > in CVS? >>> > > > >>> > > I don't remember committing any script to auto-generate the cpp files. >>> > > >>> > > Are you sure your not getting confused with the auto-generated .def >>> > > files that come from the .cpp files ? >>> > >>> > Actually i meant a Imakefile rule, which tried to generate the .def file >>> > from the symbols exported by the library. It seems that this never made >>> > it into xfree-cvs. >>> > >>> > The following commands should print the exported symbols for the dll. >>> > nm --demangle --defined-only *.o | sed -n 's/^.* [A-Z] //p' | \ >>> > sed '/^typeinfo name\|^typeinfo for\|^vtable for\|^constrution \ >>> > vtable for\|^VTT\|:\|)/ d' >>> > >>> O.k. Can you work out the Imakefile changes needed and do a full World >>> build and send a diff in ? >> >>If I recall correctly, the reason the 'nm' command was not committed was >>because it didn't work during cross compiling. I could be wrong, but please >>send me a patch to test for cross compiling before committing. > >It's probably obvious but you could do something like: > >nm=`{i6q86-pc-cygwin-nm --help >/dev/null 2>& 1 && echo i686-pc-cygwin-nm; } || echo nm` ^ nuke the q I just put that there to see if both cases worked or not and forgot to remove it when I pasted the example into my email. cgf >and then use '$nm' in the above. > >Assuming that this was cygwin-specific, of course. > >cgf -- cgf@redhat.com Red Hat, Inc. http://sources.redhat.com/ http://www.redhat.com/ From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz Wed Nov 14 23:01:00 2001 From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 23:01:00 -0000 Subject: Extended keyboard and CDE on AIX4.3 Message-ID: Hi, I have similar problem on the same configuration with cs keyboard. Small difference - when NUMLOCK is ON, keyboard produces output as a ALTGR is permanently pressed. There is workarround - to use the standard keyboard without -xkb extension and after logon run xmodmap. But: I have to run it every time on every machine I use, what is pretty silly. Is there any plan to fix this bug? (if it is bug, but i think so :) Pavel "Fiorenzo Zanotti" To: Sent by: cc: cygwin-xfree-owner@sources. Subject: Extended keyboard and CDE on AIX4.3 redhat.com 14.11.2001 16:05 Hi, I'm getting some problems with extended keyboard (italian) accessing an AIX4.3 with CDE. I'm using now a TEST53 version but the same behavior exist in TEST49. Accessing CDE on AIX 4.3 something weird happen with NUMLOCK : When ON 1) keyboard keys doesn't any visible output 2) numeric keypad keys generates numbers When OFF 1) keyboard keys work OK 2) numeric keypad doesn't produce cursor movements but generates numbers as with NUMLOCK ON In any case ALTGR doesn't work : it generates a Mode_switch keypress event, but no characters are generates. The shortest way I found to make ALTGR work (with my server launched as 'start XWin -query aix -xkbmap it' is : xmodmap -e 'keysym Mode_switch = Alt_R' When using XWin to access a Linux system all work fine !!! What do you think about these different behaviours ? (X11 version ? CDE initialization sequence ? XWin problem ?) Fiorenzo From im@de.uu.net Thu Nov 15 02:02:00 2001 From: im@de.uu.net (Ingolf Markhof) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 02:02:00 -0000 Subject: How to copy&paste? Message-ID: <200111151002.LAA02997@noc14.de.uu.net> Hi! How can I do copy and paste with the mouse? In a cygwin window, I can mark (and thus copy) text with the left mouse button and paste the marked text by pressing the right mouse button. But when I start xfree86 (by 'startx'), I can't copy&paste in xterms this way. Checking the FAQ/Mailing list archive, I found some hints regarding how to simulate a three button mouse by pressing both buttons of a two button mouse at the same time. While this might be a way to to do it, I'd prefer to copy&paste in xterms the same way I do it in cygwin windows, i.e. paste by pressing the right button only. Any hints to get this working? Please resond to my email address, because I am not subscribing to the mailing list. Or do I need to subscribe? My impression was 'no', because as a newbie, I could not answer questions sent by other people like me... BTW: Installation of cygwin was easy. Getting xfree to run was a litte bit tricky. When started with startx (yes, I copied the '.xinitrc'...), I saw the X Desktop for some seconds before X11 quit. - I found that a simple 'xhost +' in my ~/.xinitrc solved the problem. And: I spend _some_ time to find out how to get a german keybord map... A few lines like this # Sampe how to get non-US kepmaps, remove the # and change country id # as required. The example is for a german map: # setxkbmap de in the .xinitrc template would save a lot of time for many people... Regards. Ingolf From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Nov 15 02:45:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 02:45:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc In-Reply-To: <20011115020946.GA2123@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >If I recall correctly, the reason the 'nm' command was not committed was > >because it didn't work during cross compiling. I could be wrong, but please > >send me a patch to test for cross compiling before committing. I'm only doing cross-compiling. On the other Hand, we must make sure that it's also compiling native :) > It's probably obvious but you could do something like: > > nm=`{i6q86-pc-cygwin-nm --help >/dev/null 2>& 1 && echo i686-pc-cygwin-nm; } || echo nm` > > and then use '$nm' in the above. Actually, I added a define NmProg to cygwin.cf and cygwin.rules, where you could configure which nm is used. I think the thread about this patch died because we wanted to check the auto-import feature of ld. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Thu Nov 15 04:59:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 04:59:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc In-Reply-To: References: <20011115020946.GA2123@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20011115125931.B3692@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:45:03AM +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > Actually, I added a define NmProg to cygwin.cf and cygwin.rules, where > you could configure which nm is used. I think the thread about this > patch died because we wanted to check the auto-import feature of ld. > Alex, Thanks for the nm script, I've run it through and committed the files. I've built it under cygwin and it works fine. If you could test the cross compile - that'd be great. Alan. From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Nov 15 09:42:00 2001 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:42:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc In-Reply-To: <20011115125931.B3692@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Alan Hourihane wrote: > If you could test the cross compile - that'd be great. Everything worked fine except: xterm - no curses xkbcomp - fixed by attached patch The HostCcCmd is for sites, where the compiler is not called cc. But if HostCcCmd is not set, cc is used as Host compiler. The problem for xkbcomp was the line HostLinkRule. The libs parameter was not used bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 -------------- next part -------------- Index: cross.rules =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/xc/config/cf/cross.rules,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -U3 -r1.5 cross.rules --- cross.rules 2001/10/10 12:56:58 1.5 +++ cross.rules 2001/11/15 17:31:03 @@ -1,13 +1,17 @@ XCOMM $XFree86: xc/config/cf/cross.rules,v 1.5 2001/10/10 12:56:58 alanh Exp $ -#define HostLinkRule(target, flags, src, libs) cc -I$(BUILDINCDIR) -o target src libs +#ifndef HostCcCmd +#define HostCcCmd cc +#endif +#define HostLinkRule(target, flags, src, libs) HostCcCmd -I$(BUILDINCDIR) -o target src libs + /* ComplexHostProgramTarget - Compile a program such that we can run * it on this host, i.e., don't use the default cross compiler. */ #ifndef ComplexHostProgramTarget #define ComplexHostProgramTarget(program) @@\ - CC=cc @@\ + CC=HostCcCmd @@\ STD_INCLUDES= @@\ CFLAGS=$(TOP_INCLUDES) $(INCLUDES) $(BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS) @@\ EXTRA_LOAD_FLAGS= @@\ @@ -32,7 +36,7 @@ #define SimpleHostProgramTarget(program) @@\ SRCS = program.c @@\ @@\ - CC=cc @@\ + CC=HostCcCmd @@\ STD_INCLUDES= @@\ CFLAGS=$(TOP_INCLUDES) $(INCLUDES) $(BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS) @@\ EXTRA_LOAD_FLAGS= @@\ From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Nov 15 12:09:00 2001 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 12:09:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc In-Reply-To: <20011115125931.B3692@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Alan Hourihane wrote: > If you could test the cross compile - that'd be great. I found another Problemn with libGLU in CVS (my local tree was already modified, so I have not noticed the problem) libGLU needs the c++ librarys. But by default, the dll is linked with $(CC) but should with $(CXX). THe attached Patch fixes this. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 -------------- next part -------------- Index: cygwin.rules =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/xc/config/cf/cygwin.rules,v retrieving revision 3.17 diff -U3 -r3.17 cygwin.rules --- cygwin.rules 2001/09/27 10:30:11 3.17 +++ cygwin.rules 2001/11/15 20:04:38 @@ -94,7 +94,48 @@ #endif /* SharedDepLibraryTarget */ +/* + * SharedDepCplusplusLibraryTarget - generate rules to create a shared library. + */ + +#ifndef SharedDepCplusplusLibraryTarget +# ifdef UseInstalled +# ifndef LinkBuildSonameLibrary +# define LinkBuildSonameLibrary(lib) +# endif +# else /* !UseInstalled */ +# ifndef LinkBuildSonameLibrary +# define LinkBuildSonameLibrary(lib) (RemoveFile($(BUILDLIBDIR)/lib); @@\ + cd $(BUILDLIBDIR); $(LN) $(BUILDINCTOP)/$(CURRENT_DIR)/lib .) +# endif +# endif /* UseInstalled */ + + +/* + * SharedDepCplusplusLibraryTarget + */ + +#define SharedDepCplusplusLibraryTarget(libname,rev,deplist,solist,down,up) @@\ +AllTarget(Concat3(lib,libname,.dll)) @@\ + @@\ +CppFileTarget(libname.def,libname-def.cpp,-DLIBRARY_VERSION=rev,$(ICONFIGFILES)) @@\ + @@\ + @@\ + @@\ +Concat3(lib,libname,.dll): deplist libname.def @@\ + RemoveFile(LibraryTargetName(libname)) @@\ + RemoveFile(Concat3(lib,libname,.dll)) @@\ + MakeCplusplusDLL(libname,solist) @@\ + LinkBuildLibrary(Concat3(lib,libname,.a)) @@\ + LinkBuildDLL(Concat3(lib,libname,.dll)) @@\ + @@\ +clean:: @@\ + RemoveFile(LibraryTargetName(libname)) @@\ + RemoveFile(Concat3(lib,libname,.dll)) @@\ +#endif /* SharedDepCplusplusLibraryTarget */ + + /* * SharedDepModuleTarget */ @@ -128,13 +169,27 @@ #define InstallSharedLibraryData(libname,rev,dest) #endif /* InstallSharedLibraryData */ - /* + * MakeDllProg + */ + +#define MakeDLLProg(libname,solist,prog) @@\ + prog -shared -Wl,--out-implib=Concat3(lib,libname,.a) -Wl,--enable-auto-import --def libname.def -o Concat3(lib,libname,.dll) solist $(REQUIREDLIBS) + +/* * MakeDll */ #define MakeDLL(libname,solist) @@\ - $(CC) -shared -Wl,--out-implib=Concat3(lib,libname,.a) -Wl,--enable-auto-import --def libname.def -o Concat3(lib,libname,.dll) solist $(REQUIREDLIBS) + MakeDLLProg(libname,solist,$(CC)) + +/* + * MakeCplusplusDll + */ + +#define MakeCplusplusDLL(libname,solist) @@\ + MakeDLLProg(libname,solist,$(CXX)) + /* From spopik@home.com Thu Nov 15 21:46:00 2001 From: spopik@home.com (Stephen Popik) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 21:46:00 -0000 Subject: Missing file Message-ID: >> From: Stephen Popik [mailto:spopik@home.com ] >> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:30 PM >> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >> Subject: missing file >> >> I downloaded the Xfree86 binaries. Unfortunately Xmod.tgz is missing >> from >> all the mirror sites I checked. >> Install.sh complains and the install document says Xmod.tgz is a >> required >> file. >> >> Thank you, >> Steve Popik >Tell me where it says in documents you Xmod.tgz is a required file. Here is >the link for User Guide. >http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/cygwin-xfree-downloading.html >Suhaib This is how I tried installing Xfree86: >From the http://xfree86.cygwin.com I went to the primary mirror at ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/xfree >From there I stepped down to ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/xfree/xc-4-binaries/4.1.0/ I downloaded all the files from there. Install gives instructions and in those instructions is the following. The key word is mandatory. ---------------------------------------- Once you're run the Xinstall.sh script and found which binary distribution is suitable for your system, download the necessary files. The twelve (12) mandatory files for all installations are listed below. If you have not downloaded all of the files, the installer script will complain. 1. Xinstall.sh The installer script 2. extract The utility for extracting tarballs 3. Xbin.tgz X clients/utilities and run-time libraries 4. Xlib.tgz Some data files required at run-time 5. Xman.tgz Manual pages 6. Xdoc.tgz XFree86 documentation 7. Xfnts.tgz Base set of fonts 8. Xfenc.tgz Base set of font encoding data 9. Xetc.tgz Run-time configuration files 10. Xvar.tgz Run-time data 11. Xxserv.tgz XFree86 X server 12. Xmod.tgz XFree86 X server modules -------------------------------------------- File 12 is Xmod.tgz, and Xinstall.sh does complain, because Xmod.tgz is not there. The output from Xinstall.sh follows ============================================ $ ./Xinstall.sh Welcome to the XFree86 4.1.0 installer You are strongly advised to backup your existing XFree86 installation before proceeding. This includes the /usr/X11R6 and /etc/X11 directories. The installation process will overwrite existing files in those directories, and this may include some configuration files that may have been customised. If you are installing a version different from 4.1.0, you may need an updated version of this installer script. Do you wish to continue? (y/n) [n] y Checking which OS you're running... uname: not found uname: not found uname: not found uname: not found uname reports '' version '', architecture ''. chmod: changing permissions of `extract': No such file or directory ln: creating hard link `gnu-tar' to `extract': No such file or directory /tmp/gnu-tar: not found Warning: can't detect the bindist version Checking for required files ... The files: Xmod.tgz must be present in the current directory to proceed with the installation. You should be able to find it at the same place you picked up the rest of the XFree86 binary distribution. Please re-run 'sh ./Xinstall.sh' to proceed with the installation when you have them. ============================================= I followed the link you suggested and I ended up at . The Install instructions are the same and Xinstall.sh still complains. So I still can't get it installed. Regards, Stephen Popik From freeweb@nyckelpiga.de Fri Nov 16 12:09:00 2001 From: freeweb@nyckelpiga.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:09:00 -0000 Subject: Missing file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <188114060520.20011116191603@familiehaase.de> Hallo Stephen, 2001-11-16 19:12:08, du schriebst: >> I downloaded the Xfree86 binaries. Unfortunately Xmod.tgz is missing >Tell me where it says in documents you Xmod.tgz is a required file. Here > Install gives instructions and in those instructions is the following. The > key word is mandatory. > ---------------------------------------- > Once you're run the Xinstall.sh script and found which binary distribution > is suitable for your system, download the necessary files. The twelve (12) > mandatory files for all installations are listed below. If you have not > downloaded all of the files, the installer script will complain. > 1. Xinstall.sh The installer script > 2. extract The utility for extracting tarballs > 3. Xbin.tgz X clients/utilities and run-time libraries > 4. Xlib.tgz Some data files required at run-time > 5. Xman.tgz Manual pages > 6. Xdoc.tgz XFree86 documentation > 7. Xfnts.tgz Base set of fonts > 8. Xfenc.tgz Base set of font encoding data > 9. Xetc.tgz Run-time configuration files > 10. Xvar.tgz Run-time data > 11. Xxserv.tgz XFree86 X server > 12. Xmod.tgz XFree86 X server modules > -------------------------------------------- > File 12 is Xmod.tgz, and Xinstall.sh does complain, because Xmod.tgz is not > there. That is true, I read the same in my copy. But how is it possible that I'm running X right now (I installed it with little problems, need to do it twice), but it is up and running, I compiled blackbox, it works. > The output from Xinstall.sh follows > ============================================ ... > $ ./Xinstall.sh > Checking for required files ... > The files: > Xmod.tgz > must be present in the current directory to proceed with the > installation. You should be able to find it at the same place -- convey Information Systems GmbH http://www.convey.de/ Vitalisstra??e 326-328 Gerrit P. Haase D-50933 K??ln gerrit.haase@convey.de Fon: ++49 221 6903922 From normw@bocnet.com.au Fri Nov 16 14:24:00 2001 From: normw@bocnet.com.au (NormW) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 14:24:00 -0000 Subject: Install Issues - WinNT References: <000b01c16be1$41795990$b441ca0a@admin1> <4192207887.20011113130315@familiehaase.de> Message-ID: <000901c16eed$6cb01c70$b441ca0a@admin1> Good Morning (A Saturday for us) As far as I know of it I did read them and, (I think), understand them....:-? The downloads I got from the NASA site downloaded OK and stayed as .TGZ, whereas those I got from PlanetMirror were presented as .TAR as soon as I went to save them; why this should be I am long way from knowing yet. The Install script worked without a problem on the downloaded .TGZ files and as they say, it all went just like in the manual(!). Given my amateur status it might have been best to keep quiet but it just seemed odd that one site worked like the docs suggested and another one didn't.... Anyhow, t'is a problem now gone. Thanks for taking the time to reply and hope your weekend looks as nice as our one does at the moment. Norm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerrit P. Haase" To: "NormW" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:03 PM Subject: Re: Install Issues - WinNT > Hallo NormW, > > 2001-11-13 12:59:29, du schriebst: > > The files you downloaded were in gzip format, just your download utlity broke > things and renamed it from tgz to tar or unpacked it on the fly. Use ftp to do > downloads. > > It will work as it is stated in the instructions (you read them?). > > Gerrit > -- > convey Information Systems GmbH http://www.convey.de/ > Vitalisstra??e 326-328 > Gerrit P. Haase D-50933 K??ln > gerrit.haase@convey.de Fon: ++49 221 6903922 > > From awu@1internetdrive.com Sat Nov 17 00:53:00 2001 From: awu@1internetdrive.com (awu@1internetdrive.com) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 00:53:00 -0000 Subject: Hi, this is for you!!! 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Fred Dellaca, Westport, New Zealand ======================================================= ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON 'YOUR' ROAD TO FINANCIAL FREEDOM ! ======================================================= About 50,000 new people get online every month! _______________________________________________________ Under Bill S1618 Title III passed by the 105th US Congress this letter cannot be considered spam as long as the sender includes contact information and a method of removal. This is a one time e-mail transmission. No request for removal is necessary. From nospam01@ghowey.de Sat Nov 17 07:33:00 2001 From: nospam01@ghowey.de (Gregor Howey) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 07:33:00 -0000 Subject: xdmcp with kde crashes Message-ID: Hello, I've some Probs with KDE via xdmcp on win98se on an athlon 1000 256 MB RAM with an 3com 3c90x latest drivers to a suse 7.2 HP-Omnibook. Chooser works fine, desktop loads fine most of the time. After some usage starting progs (kmail) in most cases the XWin-process dies without any comments. The XWin-Versions I tried where the actual release, test-49, test-52 and test-53 they all show the same behaviour. It's independent, if I use the das startup-script or starting XWin from a bash. It also makes no difference, which setting I use for ulimit -n If I use a webbrowser on windows I dont't get any connections. Netscape 4.78 tells: can't locate host or tcp error not enpugh memory if i call netstat with cygwin/xfree it shows me round about 22 active connections. IE says, can't reach dns. Than i removed all preferences Files from KDE (.kde and .kde2), copied back the mail-Prefs. This action lessend the effect, but didn't eleminates it it. Without Mail prefs it'??s the same behaviour. Just before XWin Crashes I've seen refresh Problems of xosview. It didn't redraw if I didn't made any input to Xwin (mouse movement was enough). This effect I've seen one time, will look further for it. A trace file I can't find. Does anybody knows anything about this prob? best regards, Gregor From orlolro@telocity.com Sat Nov 17 17:04:00 2001 From: orlolro@telocity.com (Joseff Betancourt) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:04:00 -0000 Subject: 104 error Message-ID: Hi all. I'm running windows XP Pro and I just finished installing Cygwin/xfree86. When I try to start x up I get: Joseff Betancourt@JOE ~ $ /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows NT/2000 ddxProcessArgument () ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 5 i: 1 winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pix el winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1024 h 768 r 1024 l 0 b 768 t 0 winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 4096 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32 winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0"X IO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0"XI O: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. Joseff Betancourt@JOE ~ $ I've read through the mailing list but I cant find an answer. I have all firewall software off (XP comes with its own). I have dsl with a static ip address. No DSL or VPN software is needed for my dsl--so none is installed. Please help. I may have found a XP based cygwin bug. But I dont know. --Joseff. ----footer---- Fav. Free Online game: http://infantry.sony.com Check it out. From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Nov 17 18:13:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 18:13:00 -0000 Subject: 104 error Message-ID: Your answer is at: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-error-font-eof Your server is failing to start. The 104 errors are from the X clients that failed to start to because the X Server failed to start. Harold From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Sun Nov 18 00:47:00 2001 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 00:47:00 -0000 Subject: remark to xoncygwin sourceforge project Message-ID: <002101c1700e$5dbb8cf0$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> Hi Harold, currently I have seen you xoncygwin project on sourceforge http://sourceforge.net/projects/xoncygwin/. Does this project mean xfree86 ? If so it I think it would be good to remove all not needed parts and add a homepage link to xfree.cygwin.com. What do you thinking about this ? Regards Ralf From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Sun Nov 18 00:50:00 2001 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 00:50:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge Message-ID: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> Hi, currently I have found an additional xfree server project on sourcforge http://sourceforge.net/projects/winfree86/. Whats going on with this ? Are there three different x server developments for cygwin ? Regards Ralf From matthew.donald@motile.net Sun Nov 18 00:58:00 2001 From: matthew.donald@motile.net (Matthew Donald) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 00:58:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <006a01c1700f$288bde80$2102a8c0@motile.net> I'm in the process of setting up winfree86. Winfree86 is a minimal version of Cygwin + xfree86 + other code to provide an x-server for Windows. It removes the requirement to install a full version of Cygwin. Also it pretties up the interface (removes the batch window, integrates the config more closely into Windows) regards Matthew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralf Habacker" To: "Cygwin-Xfree" Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 7:55 PM Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge > Hi, > currently I have found an additional xfree server project on sourcforge > http://sourceforge.net/projects/winfree86/. > > Whats going on with this ? Are there three different x server developments for > cygwin ? > > Regards > > Ralf > > From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Sun Nov 18 06:18:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 06:18:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin setup packages Message-ID: <01cf01c1703b$dad1f9e0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Well, the new setup has been out for nearly a week now, and apart from a rapidly growing wishlist it looks like it's quite stable. If you folk want to put together packages for the X11 category, now is the time... http://www.cygwin.com/setup.html documents the process and packing format. It should be quite straightforward for you: Simply have the appropriate dependencies in place, and for the X server package have a post install script that contains your current installation script. Rob From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Nov 18 07:11:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:11:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin setup packages Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268319B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Rob, Sorry, I can't be assistance for several weeks. I had a lot going on in my personal life, including my mother died last week. If Harold or Alan had time to look into it, I would appreciate it, otherwise, it need to wait for at least 3-4 weeks. Sorry Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Collins [mailto:robert.collins@itdomain.com.au] > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 9:18 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: cygwin setup packages > > Well, the new setup has been out for nearly a week now, and apart from > a > rapidly growing wishlist it looks like it's quite stable. > > If you folk want to put together packages for the X11 category, now is > the time... > > http://www.cygwin.com/setup.html documents the process and packing > format. It should be quite straightforward for you: Simply have the > appropriate dependencies in place, and for the X server package have a > post install script that contains your current installation script. > > Rob From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Nov 18 07:20:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:20:00 -0000 Subject: 104 error Message-ID: Joseff, > ok. Now how do I switch from text mode to binary mode? That part > is escaping > me. Thanx. You start by asking the mailing list, not me personally. Then, you re-read the answer, the *whole* answer, that I gave you before. It has instructions for switching from text mode to binary mode. > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-error-font-eof Harold From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Nov 18 07:28:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:28:00 -0000 Subject: 104 error Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268319C@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [mailto:huntharo@msu.edu] > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 10:21 AM > To: cygx > Subject: RE: 104 error > > Joseff, > > > ok. Now how do I switch from text mode to binary mode? That part > > is escaping > > me. Thanx. > > You start by asking the mailing list, not me personally. > > Then, you re-read the answer, the *whole* answer, that I gave you > before. > It has instructions for switching from text mode to binary mode. > > > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-error- > font-eof > > Harold Or use the attached script from Alexander Suhaib <> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: cygremount.ZIP Type: application/octet-stream Size: 480 bytes Desc: not available URL: From orlolro@telocity.com Sun Nov 18 07:44:00 2001 From: orlolro@telocity.com (Joseff Betancourt) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:44:00 -0000 Subject: window maker compile Message-ID: ok i got out of the problem of starting X. Now I try to configure Windows Maker and I get: Making all in Examples make[2]: Entering directory `/XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs/Examples' /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link gcc -g -O2 -o connect.exe connect.o ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib gcc -g -O2 -o connect.exe connect.o ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a(wapplication.o): In function `WMInitializeApplication': /XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs/wapplication.c:39: undefined reference to `_Xsetlocale' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [connect.exe] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs/Examples' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 bash-2.05a$ Any Ideas? Any precompiled Wmaker files by chance for cygwin? thanx. --Joseff. ----footer---- Fav. Free Online game: http://infantry.sony.com Check it out. From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Nov 18 07:53:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:53:00 -0000 Subject: window maker compile Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268319D@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> `_Xsetlocale is defined in libX11, you need to add it to linker, or correct the order of libraries if it is already there Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseff Betancourt [mailto:orlolro@telocity.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 10:45 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: window maker compile > > ok i got out of the problem of starting X. Now I try to configure > Windows > Maker and I get: > > Making all in Examples > make[2]: Entering directory `/XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs/Examples' > /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link gcc -g -O2 -o connect.exe > connect.o > ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib > gcc -g -O2 -o connect.exe connect.o > ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib > ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a(wapplication.o): In function > `WMInitializeApplication': > /XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs/wapplication.c:39: undefined reference > to > `_Xsetlocale' > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make[2]: *** [connect.exe] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs/Examples' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs' > make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > bash-2.05a$ > > Any Ideas? Any precompiled Wmaker files by chance for cygwin? thanx. > --Joseff. > > ----footer---- > Fav. Free Online game: http://infantry.sony.com > Check it out. From o_skvortsova@yahoo.com Sun Nov 18 08:44:00 2001 From: o_skvortsova@yahoo.com (Skvortsova Olga) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:44:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin+XFree86 Message-ID: <20011118164357.15382.qmail@web12006.mail.yahoo.com> To whom it may concern. Hello, I have Windows Me and I've just installed Cygwin on my computer. Now I would like to use X Server as well. What should I do? Should I unistall Cygwin (if yes, then how, I didn't find the file for the deinstallation) or add some additional packages for having XServer available? regards, Skvortsova Olga. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com From cgf@redhat.com Sun Nov 18 11:54:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:54:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge In-Reply-To: <006a01c1700f$288bde80$2102a8c0@motile.net> References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <006a01c1700f$288bde80$2102a8c0@motile.net> Message-ID: <20011118183701.GF11499@redhat.com> On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 07:58:13PM +1100, Matthew Donald wrote: >I'm in the process of setting up winfree86. > >Winfree86 is a minimal version of Cygwin + xfree86 + other code to provide >an x-server for Windows. It removes the requirement to install a full >version of Cygwin. Also it pretties up the interface (removes the batch >window, integrates the config more closely into Windows) That is no longer a requirement with cygwin's new version of setup.exe. We routinely ask for volunteers in the cygwin project and I'm sure that the Cygwin XFree86 project would not turn help away. Why start up a separate effort? Did you have great ideas for cygwin's setup or for XFree86 that were brutally shot down? Or, did you decide that the only way to get things done was to essentially fork both projects? cgf From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Nov 18 15:10:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:10:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin+XFree86 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268319E@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Read User Guide at http://xfree86.cygwin.com. You find the mailing list there, but did not find other documents? Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Skvortsova Olga [mailto:o_skvortsova@yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 11:44 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com > Subject: Cygwin+XFree86 > > To whom it may concern. > > Hello, > > I have Windows Me and I've just installed Cygwin on my > computer. Now I would like to use X Server as well. > What should I do? Should I unistall Cygwin (if yes, > then how, I didn't find the file for the > deinstallation) or add some additional packages for > having XServer available? > > regards, > Skvortsova Olga. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals > http://personals.yahoo.com From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Nov 18 15:14:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:14:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831A0@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> I never heard anything about it? I do not understand why a separate project is needed? Due to GPL requirements of Cygwin, your download site wont be small. You will need to host all the source codes. My advice is join the developers list at xgree86.cygwin.com and contribute directly to this project. Forking projects does more harm then good. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:cgf@redhat.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 1:37 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: seperate xfree project on sourceforge > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 07:58:13PM +1100, Matthew Donald wrote: > >I'm in the process of setting up winfree86. > > > >Winfree86 is a minimal version of Cygwin + xfree86 + other code to > provide > >an x-server for Windows. It removes the requirement to install a > full > >version of Cygwin. Also it pretties up the interface (removes the > batch > >window, integrates the config more closely into Windows) > > That is no longer a requirement with cygwin's new version of > setup.exe. > > We routinely ask for volunteers in the cygwin project and I'm sure > that > the Cygwin XFree86 project would not turn help away. > > Why start up a separate effort? > > Did you have great ideas for cygwin's setup or for XFree86 that were > brutally shot down? Or, did you decide that the only way to get > things > done was to essentially fork both projects? > > cgf From tsurumi@adtx.com Sun Nov 18 19:01:00 2001 From: tsurumi@adtx.com (=?iso-2022-jp?B?IhskQkRhOCsbKEIgGyRCYkMbKEIoVHN1cnVtaSki?=) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:01:00 -0000 Subject: Installation of Xfree86 nder Cygwin Message-ID: <100613885800005c3c@platy.adtx.com> Hi, I have a question.. I installed Cygwin under windows95. And I tried to install Xfree86, but a error occurred... I found "./extract" caused "permission denied". I copyed extract.exe to /bin, and execution of "extract" works well, but "./extract" causes an error of permission. I think it is my basic problem??? I am not so familiar with UNIX. Please advise to me. Best regards,. =========================================================== Makoto Tsurumi (????) ADTX-J, Advanced Prod. Development E_mail: tsurumi@adtx.com Tel: +81-45-334-2168 FAX: +81-45-334-2372 =========================================================== From matthew.donald@motile.net Mon Nov 19 00:05:00 2001 From: matthew.donald@motile.net (Matthew Donald) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:05:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <006a01c1700f$288bde80$2102a8c0@motile.net> <20011118183701.GF11499@redhat.com> Message-ID: <036b01c170d1$002c17d0$2102a8c0@motile.net> Hi, I been keeping winfree86 with a very low profile since its still not really ready for release even as alpha code. However since Ralf Habacker stumbled across it, it's time to 'fess up. Winfree86 does not fork either the cygwin or xfree codebase. It is much more akin to a distribution rather than new product. Yes, winfree86 does contain some new code, but I can't see how it can easily be incorporated into the existing project. The problem is that this code is built using proprietary tools. Although winfree86 is GPL'ed, it isn't a clean GPL. Why? Well, integrating xfree into win32 cleanly is going involve COM objects. AFAIK, gcc doesn't support COM (and the thought of doing COM in raw C is pretty revolting). Gcc wont work with MFC or ATL, and anyway both of those involve Microsoft licenses. So that leaves a choice of using a Microsoft/Borland C compiler (do any other C compilers come with a MFC/ATL license?) or using a high-level language such as VB or Delphi. I've chosen Delphi because (a) I've got it and I'm comfortable with it; (b) it's a great prototyping language, and at this stage of winfree86's life I'm doing lots of prototyping. The choice of delphi can and probably will change in the future, probably to C/ATL 'cause mfc is even more bloated than delphi. BTW, I considered c++ builder, but I rejected it (even though starting in C will make later migration lots easier) for two reasons: the version I've got (v3) has COM-related bugs which are very annoying; and starting in delphi will force a *complete* rewrite later, and I'm a great believer in Fred Brooks dictum of 'planning to throw one away'. OK, so what does winfree86 do? Firstly it is a *very* cut down version of cygwin + xfree. The aim is to get its' size down to 3-4mb. Actually, eventually there will probably be two versions of winfree86: a 'slim' version (3-4mb) which only provides an x-server; and a 'full' version (10-16mb) which provides xfree, xvnc, rdesktop (or tsc), telnet (and ssh) and tn3270. So, secondly, winfree86 is not limited to xfree. It will provide other types of desktop connections. The idea is that the user has a folder of remote desktop objects. These could be remote unices (x sever), win32 (rdesktop/tsc), boxen (vnc), routers/appliances (telnet/ssh) or mainframes (tn3270). A user can open the winfree86 folder, double-click on a remote system icon and go directly to the system. They can create a remote desktop by being prompted through a wizard or dialog. They don't have to worry about command line options, getting xfree and ssh working together, the differences between xfree and vnc etc. It will all be dumbed-down and hidden from them. Winfree86 specifically aims to run multiple instances of xfree at the same time. If the user wants to log onto two linux boxes, then they open two separate desktops. There are two user senarios I have in mind: sysadmins who have a who bunch of diverse systems to administer; and users who have an existing win32 boxes who need to access linux or mainframes. Specifically, I'm interested in recycling win95/98 licenses and older hardware, with users accessing an office suite (using wordperfect) through linux. It's an awful lot cheaper to put a high-end server running a 100-user license of wordperfect (about US$16k for the server hardware/software, using existing workstations) instead of 300 new licenses of Office/XP (about US$65k for software plus hardware costs). This is the sort of senario which may well propel linux out onto 'desktops' (the actual workstation will run win32, but the application will run under linux). The whole idea is to have a drop in X product which can be deployed onto workstations, instead of having to license a commercial x-server such as Hummingbird, X-thin/Pro, X-Win32 or even MI/X. The cost of the commercial x-server license kills the economics of having an office-suite server with win32 clients (the senario would still work with a linux thin-client, but most organisations are reluctant to move away from win32 on the desktop; got to get them to move one step at a time...). If you look at http://winfree86.sourceforge.net/images/screen.jpg, you can see a screenshot of winfree86. It shows the winfree86 folder with two remote desktops (my two linux servers) with a connection to 'alan' open in the background. The output from xfree has been intercepted (xfree runs as a child process of winfree86, which captures the output through a pipe) and is shown in a separate dialog box. This is usually hidden and can be popped-up using an icon in the tool-tray. Keen-eyed readers will notice that xwinclip has failed with 'Could not open display'. Functionally, this is as far as I've got. I've been bogged down in pruning the file tree trying to get the size down to 3-4mb. Testing this has been a bitch since it involves constant install/uninstall cycles. I've got a Lenten Reborn card on order. When it arrives life will be much easier :-) Rasjid Wilcox had a very similar idea to winfree86 named winxterm (see http://lasp.sourceforge.net/winxterm/ ). He has already produced a minimal cygwin + xfree of about 4mb. If we can integrate the two projects winfree86 (or whatever its called) will be available much sooner. I hope I explained why winfree86 exists, and why it doesn't really fit into the existing xfree-cygwin project. cheers Matthew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Faylor" To: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 5:37 AM Subject: Re: seperate xfree project on sourceforge > On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 07:58:13PM +1100, Matthew Donald wrote: > >I'm in the process of setting up winfree86. > > > >Winfree86 is a minimal version of Cygwin + xfree86 + other code to provide > >an x-server for Windows. It removes the requirement to install a full > >version of Cygwin. Also it pretties up the interface (removes the batch > >window, integrates the config more closely into Windows) > > That is no longer a requirement with cygwin's new version of setup.exe. > > We routinely ask for volunteers in the cygwin project and I'm sure that > the Cygwin XFree86 project would not turn help away. > > Why start up a separate effort? > > Did you have great ideas for cygwin's setup or for XFree86 that were > brutally shot down? Or, did you decide that the only way to get things > done was to essentially fork both projects? > > cgf > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" To: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 10:13 AM Subject: RE: seperate xfree project on sourceforge > I never heard anything about it? I do not understand why a separate project > is needed? Due to GPL requirements of Cygwin, your download site wont be > small. You will need to host all the source codes. My advice is join the > developers list at xgree86.cygwin.com and contribute directly to this > project. Forking projects does more harm then good. > > Suhaib From mark.baxter@4tsolutions.se Mon Nov 19 01:03:00 2001 From: mark.baxter@4tsolutions.se (mark.baxter@4tsolutions.se) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:03:00 -0000 Subject: window maker compile Message-ID: Personally I got round this by configuring with --disable-locale. NOw my problem is that I have just upgraded and found all those BASH problems (colours not working) with rxvt that people were having last week but I ignored ..... /MB |--------+-------------------------------------> | | "Joseff Betancourt" | | | | | | | | | Sent by: | | | cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.| | | redhat.com | | | | | | | | | 18/11/01 16:44 | | | | |--------+-------------------------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: | | cc: | | Subject: window maker compile | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| ok i got out of the problem of starting X. Now I try to configure Windows Maker and I get: Making all in Examples make[2]: Entering directory `/XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs/Examples' /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link gcc -g -O2 -o connect.exe connect.o ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib gcc -g -O2 -o connect.exe connect.o ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a(wapplication.o): In function `WMInitializeApplication': /XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs/wapplication.c:39: undefined reference to `_Xsetlocale' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [connect.exe] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs/Examples' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 bash-2.05a$ Any Ideas? Any precompiled Wmaker files by chance for cygwin? thanx. --Joseff. ----footer---- Fav. Free Online game: http://infantry.sony.com Check it out. From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Mon Nov 19 01:08:00 2001 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:08:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge In-Reply-To: <036b01c170d1$002c17d0$2102a8c0@motile.net> Message-ID: <004901c170da$6366afa0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> > -----Urspr??ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com]Im Auftrag von Matthew > Donald > Gesendet am: Montag, 19. November 2001 09:06 > An: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Cc: Rasjid Wilcox; Suhaib Siddiqi; Christopher Faylor > Betreff: Re: seperate xfree project on sourceforge > > Hi, > > I been keeping winfree86 with a very low profile since its still not really > ready for release even as alpha code. However since Ralf Habacker stumbled > across it, it's time to 'fess up. > > Winfree86 does not fork either the cygwin or xfree codebase. It is much > more akin to a distribution rather than new product. > > Yes, winfree86 does contain some new code, but I can't see how it can easily > be incorporated into the existing project. The problem is that this code is > built using proprietary tools. Although winfree86 is GPL'ed, it isn't a > clean GPL. > > Why? Well, integrating xfree into win32 cleanly is going involve COM > objects. AFAIK, gcc doesn't support COM (and the thought of doing COM in > raw C is pretty revolting). Relates the problem to the missing msvc c++ support of g++ ? > Gcc wont work with MFC or ATL, and anyway both > of those involve Microsoft licenses. So that leaves a choice of using a > Microsoft/Borland C compiler (do any other C compilers come with a MFC/ATL > license?) or using a high-level language such as VB or Delphi. > > I've chosen Delphi because (a) I've got it and I'm comfortable with it; (b) > it's a great prototyping language, and at this stage of winfree86's life I'm > doing lots of prototyping. The choice of delphi can and probably will > change in the future, probably to C/ATL 'cause mfc is even more bloated than > delphi. BTW, I considered c++ builder, but I rejected it (even though > starting in C will make later migration lots easier) for two reasons: the > version I've got (v3) has COM-related bugs which are very annoying; and > starting in delphi will force a *complete* rewrite later, and I'm a great > believer in Fred Brooks dictum of 'planning to throw one away'. > > OK, so what does winfree86 do? > > Firstly it is a *very* cut down version of cygwin + xfree. The aim is to > get its' size down to 3-4mb. Actually, eventually there will probably be > two versions of winfree86: a 'slim' version (3-4mb) which only provides an > x-server; and a 'full' version (10-16mb) which provides xfree, xvnc, > rdesktop (or tsc), telnet (and ssh) and tn3270. > > So, secondly, winfree86 is not limited to xfree. It will provide other > types of desktop connections. The idea is that the user has a folder of > remote desktop objects. These could be remote unices (x sever), win32 > (rdesktop/tsc), boxen (vnc), routers/appliances (telnet/ssh) or mainframes > (tn3270). A user can open the winfree86 folder, double-click on a remote > system icon and go directly to the system. They can create a remote desktop > by being prompted through a wizard or dialog. They don't have to worry > about command line options, getting xfree and ssh working together, the > differences between xfree and vnc etc. It will all be dumbed-down and > hidden from them. > > Winfree86 specifically aims to run multiple instances of xfree at the same > time. If the user wants to log onto two linux boxes, then they open two > separate desktops. > > There are two user senarios I have in mind: sysadmins who have a who bunch > of diverse systems to administer; and users who have an existing win32 boxes > who need to access linux or mainframes. Specifically, I'm interested in > recycling win95/98 licenses and older hardware, with users accessing an > office suite (using wordperfect) through linux. It's an awful lot cheaper > to put a high-end server running a 100-user license of wordperfect (about > US$16k for the server hardware/software, using existing workstations) > instead of 300 new licenses of Office/XP (about US$65k for software plus > hardware costs). This is the sort of senario which may well propel linux > out onto 'desktops' (the actual workstation will run win32, but the > application will run under linux). > > The whole idea is to have a drop in X product which can be deployed onto > workstations, instead of having to license a commercial x-server such as > Hummingbird, X-thin/Pro, X-Win32 or even MI/X. The cost of the commercial > x-server license kills the economics of having an office-suite server with > win32 clients (the senario would still work with a linux thin-client, but > most organisations are reluctant to move away from win32 on the desktop; got > to get them to move one step at a time...). > > If you look at http://winfree86.sourceforge.net/images/screen.jpg, you can > see a screenshot of winfree86. It shows the winfree86 folder with two > remote desktops (my two linux servers) with a connection to 'alan' open in > the background. The output from xfree has been intercepted (xfree runs as a > child process of winfree86, which captures the output through a pipe) and is > shown in a separate dialog box. This is usually hidden and can be popped-up > using an icon in the tool-tray. Keen-eyed readers will notice that xwinclip > has failed with 'Could not open display'. > > Functionally, this is as far as I've got. I've been bogged down in pruning > the file tree trying to get the size down to 3-4mb. Testing this has been a > bitch since it involves constant install/uninstall cycles. I've got a > Lenten Reborn card on order. When it arrives life will be much easier :-) > > Rasjid Wilcox had a very similar idea to winfree86 named winxterm (see > http://lasp.sourceforge.net/winxterm/ ). He has already produced a minimal > cygwin + xfree of about 4mb. If we can integrate the two projects winfree86 > (or whatever its called) will be available much sooner. > > I hope I explained why winfree86 exists, and why it doesn't really fit into > the existing xfree-cygwin project. > > cheers Matthew > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher Faylor" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 5:37 AM > Subject: Re: seperate xfree project on sourceforge > > > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 07:58:13PM +1100, Matthew Donald wrote: > > >I'm in the process of setting up winfree86. > > > > > >Winfree86 is a minimal version of Cygwin + xfree86 + other code to > provide > > >an x-server for Windows. It removes the requirement to install a full > > >version of Cygwin. Also it pretties up the interface (removes the batch > > >window, integrates the config more closely into Windows) > > > > That is no longer a requirement with cygwin's new version of setup.exe. > > > > We routinely ask for volunteers in the cygwin project and I'm sure that > > the Cygwin XFree86 project would not turn help away. > > > > Why start up a separate effort? > > > > Did you have great ideas for cygwin's setup or for XFree86 that were > > brutally shot down? Or, did you decide that the only way to get things > > done was to essentially fork both projects? > > > > cgf > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 10:13 AM > Subject: RE: seperate xfree project on sourceforge > > > > I never heard anything about it? I do not understand why a separate > project > > is needed? Due to GPL requirements of Cygwin, your download site wont be > > small. You will need to host all the source codes. My advice is join the > > developers list at xgree86.cygwin.com and contribute directly to this > > project. Forking projects does more harm then good. > > > > Suhaib > > From matthew.donald@motile.net Mon Nov 19 02:42:00 2001 From: matthew.donald@motile.net (Matthew Donald) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:42:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge References: <004901c170da$6366afa0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <03a301c170e6$dc4b5cc0$2102a8c0@motile.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralf Habacker" To: "Cygwin-Xfree" Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 8:13 PM Subject: RE: seperate xfree project on sourceforge > > Why? Well, integrating xfree into win32 cleanly is going involve COM > > objects. AFAIK, gcc doesn't support COM (and the thought of doing COM in > > raw C is pretty revolting). > > Relates the problem to the missing msvc c++ support of g++ ? Gcc won't compile the MFC headers. Msvc c++ has some special language features (embrace and extend :-) required for compiling them. I think the features modify how the VMT is generated, but I'm not sure. cheers Matthew From Edward.T.Quick@BritishAirways.com Mon Nov 19 05:14:00 2001 From: Edward.T.Quick@BritishAirways.com (Quick, Edward T) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 05:14:00 -0000 Subject: running xfree86 as a user instead of admin Message-ID: <"045B83BF8FDE4017*/c=GB/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=BA/o=British Airways PLC/ou=CORPLN1/s=Quick/g=Edward/i=T/"@MHS> Hi, I have XFree running on W2K and it is fine for me when I'm logged in as Admin but if I log in as a User it won't run. I have a feeling the answer is to set owner of xinit to root but as I'm using cygwin I don't think this is possible is it? I'd appreciate any help. Thanks. PS: Please could you copy any replies to me directly as I haven't subscribed to the user's list. Thanks. This is what I get when I try to run X: bash-2.05$ ./xinit ddxProcessArgument () _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root _XSERVTransSocketCreateListener: failed to bind listener _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to create listener for local Fatal server error: Failed to establish all listening sockets giving up. ./xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server ./xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. bash-2.05$ From cgf@redhat.com Mon Nov 19 11:02:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:02:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge In-Reply-To: <036b01c170d1$002c17d0$2102a8c0@motile.net> References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <006a01c1700f$288bde80$2102a8c0@motile.net> <20011118183701.GF11499@redhat.com> <036b01c170d1$002c17d0$2102a8c0@motile.net> Message-ID: <20011119190300.GB1441@redhat.com> On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:05:47PM +1100, Matthew Donald wrote: >Hi, > >I been keeping winfree86 with a very low profile since its still not really >ready for release even as alpha code. However since Ralf Habacker stumbled >across it, it's time to 'fess up. > >Winfree86 does not fork either the cygwin or xfree codebase. It is much >more akin to a distribution rather than new product. > >Yes, winfree86 does contain some new code, but I can't see how it can easily >be incorporated into the existing project. The problem is that this code is >built using proprietary tools. Although winfree86 is GPL'ed, it isn't a >clean GPL. > >Why? Well, integrating xfree into win32 cleanly is going involve COM >objects. AFAIK, gcc doesn't support COM (and the thought of doing COM in >raw C is pretty revolting). Gcc wont work with MFC or ATL, and anyway both >of those involve Microsoft licenses. So that leaves a choice of using a >Microsoft/Borland C compiler (do any other C compilers come with a MFC/ATL >license?) or using a high-level language such as VB or Delphi. So, it sounds like you have some immediate licensing issues that could cause this project to be stillborn. How are you going to work around the fact that cygwin requires open source? >Rasjid Wilcox had a very similar idea to winfree86 named winxterm (see >http://lasp.sourceforge.net/winxterm/ ). He has already produced a minimal >cygwin + xfree of about 4mb. If we can integrate the two projects winfree86 >(or whatever its called) will be available much sooner. This sounds like YA ill-conceived fork. And, oh joy, oh rapture, it is also YA GPL violation. I've Cc'ed Rasjid. Rasjid -- you need to provide the sources for the binary packages that you are providing, in compliance with the GPL. Just providing a link to cygwin.com is not sufficient. cgf From matthew.donald@motile.net Mon Nov 19 11:49:00 2001 From: matthew.donald@motile.net (Matthew Donald) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:49:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <006a01c1700f$288bde80$2102a8c0@motile.net> <20011118183701.GF11499@redhat.com> <036b01c170d1$002c17d0$2102a8c0@motile.net> <20011119190300.GB1441@redhat.com> Message-ID: <03ee01c17133$546c9ec0$2102a8c0@motile.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Faylor" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 6:03 AM Subject: Re: seperate xfree project on sourceforge > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:05:47PM +1100, Matthew Donald wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I been keeping winfree86 with a very low profile since its still not really > >ready for release even as alpha code. However since Ralf Habacker stumbled > >across it, it's time to 'fess up. > > > >Winfree86 does not fork either the cygwin or xfree codebase. It is much > >more akin to a distribution rather than new product. > > > >Yes, winfree86 does contain some new code, but I can't see how it can easily > >be incorporated into the existing project. The problem is that this code is > >built using proprietary tools. Although winfree86 is GPL'ed, it isn't a > >clean GPL. > > > >Why? Well, integrating xfree into win32 cleanly is going involve COM > >objects. AFAIK, gcc doesn't support COM (and the thought of doing COM in > >raw C is pretty revolting). Gcc wont work with MFC or ATL, and anyway both > >of those involve Microsoft licenses. So that leaves a choice of using a > >Microsoft/Borland C compiler (do any other C compilers come with a MFC/ATL > >license?) or using a high-level language such as VB or Delphi. > > So, it sounds like you have some immediate licensing issues that could > cause this project to be stillborn. How are you going to work around > the fact that cygwin requires open source? Cygwin only requires the project source to be available. GPL does not require compiler source to be available (unless the compiler as opposed to the project is subject to GPL). As I made clear in my previous post, there are no suitable open source tools available to code COM objects (unless someone is going to make a MFC or ATL clone for gcc available RSN :-) > >Rasjid Wilcox had a very similar idea to winfree86 named winxterm (see > >http://lasp.sourceforge.net/winxterm/ ). He has already produced a minimal > >cygwin + xfree of about 4mb. If we can integrate the two projects winfree86 > >(or whatever its called) will be available much sooner. > > This sounds like YA ill-conceived fork. And, oh joy, oh rapture, it is also > YA GPL violation. > > I've Cc'ed Rasjid. Rasjid -- you need to provide the sources for the > binary packages that you are providing, in compliance with the GPL. Just > providing a link to cygwin.com is not sufficient. > Yes the source code will be made available. Please keep your flames to yourself. Don't you have real problems to worry about? Matthew From cgf@redhat.com Mon Nov 19 12:26:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:26:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge In-Reply-To: <03ee01c17133$546c9ec0$2102a8c0@motile.net> References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <006a01c1700f$288bde80$2102a8c0@motile.net> <20011118183701.GF11499@redhat.com> <036b01c170d1$002c17d0$2102a8c0@motile.net> <20011119190300.GB1441@redhat.com> <03ee01c17133$546c9ec0$2102a8c0@motile.net> Message-ID: <20011119200554.GA6062@redhat.com> On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 06:49:40AM +1100, Matthew Donald wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Christopher Faylor" >To: >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 6:03 AM >Subject: Re: seperate xfree project on sourceforge > >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:05:47PM +1100, Matthew Donald wrote: >>>Why? Well, integrating xfree into win32 cleanly is going involve COM >>>objects. AFAIK, gcc doesn't support COM (and the thought of doing COM >>>in raw C is pretty revolting). Gcc wont work with MFC or ATL, and >>>anyway both of those involve Microsoft licenses. So that leaves a >>>choice of using a Microsoft/Borland C compiler (do any other C >>>compilers come with a MFC/ATL license?) or using a high-level language >>>such as VB or Delphi. >> >>So, it sounds like you have some immediate licensing issues that could >>cause this project to be stillborn. How are you going to work around >>the fact that cygwin requires open source? > >Cygwin only requires the project source to be available. GPL does not >require compiler source to be available (unless the compiler as opposed >to the project is subject to GPL). As I made clear in my previous >post, there are no suitable open source tools available to code COM >objects (unless someone is going to make a MFC or ATL clone for gcc >available RSN :-) As long as any proprietary libraries that are linked into the end product are common to the OS (i.e., Windows) and the sources are available for everything else, you should be ok. If this requires additional libraries that are not part of the OS, then you can't do this. For some reason, I thought this was the case here. Apparently I was mistaken. >>>Rasjid Wilcox had a very similar idea to winfree86 named winxterm (see >>>http://lasp.sourceforge.net/winxterm/ ). He has already produced a >>>minimal cygwin + xfree of about 4mb. If we can integrate the two >>>projects winfree86 (or whatever its called) will be available much >>>sooner. >> >>This sounds like YA ill-conceived fork. And, oh joy, oh rapture, it is >>also YA GPL violation. >> >>I've Cc'ed Rasjid. Rasjid -- you need to provide the sources for the >>binary packages that you are providing, in compliance with the GPL. >>Just providing a link to cygwin.com is not sufficient. > >Yes the source code will be made available. > >Please keep your flames to yourself. Don't you have real problems to >worry about? I worry about people providing old versions of cygwin, which you will be doing. I also worry about people not adequately understanding the GPL. You apparently think that I should just "trust" you but experience has shown that you can't trust anyone to understand the GPL. cgf From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Mon Nov 19 14:15:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:15:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <006a01c1700f$288bde80$2102a8c0@motile.net> <20011118183701.GF11499@redhat.com> <036b01c170d1$002c17d0$2102a8c0@motile.net> <20011119190300.GB1441@redhat.com> <03ee01c17133$546c9ec0$2102a8c0@motile.net> <20011119200554.GA6062@redhat.com> Message-ID: <036401c17147$ac4f7630$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- > On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 06:49:40AM +1100, Matthew Donald wrote: > >>So, it sounds like you have some immediate licensing issues that could > >>cause this project to be stillborn. How are you going to work around > >>the fact that cygwin requires open source? > > > >Cygwin only requires the project source to be available. GPL does not > >require compiler source to be available (unless the compiler as opposed > >to the project is subject to GPL). As I made clear in my previous > >post, there are no suitable open source tools available to code COM > >objects (unless someone is going to make a MFC or ATL clone for gcc > >available RSN :-) They are RN. There is a little porting needed, but not much. Some lists that may be of interest: wine, mingw, reactos. (Why reactos you say? Well they have been very active in adding compatability support to gcc because of their goal - binary compatability with NT. This support includes fastcall linking and fixes to windres amongst other older things). Rob From mwelch@ontarioeast.net Mon Nov 19 14:17:00 2001 From: mwelch@ontarioeast.net (Mo Welch) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:17:00 -0000 Subject: Installing XFree86 Message-ID: <3BF98417.7FF928FF@ontarioeast.net> Sirs: I'm a total newbie; but seems to me if I need to use bunzip2 to install XFree86 then should there not be a copy of bunzip2 in the Cygwin distro - or somewhere in the XFree86 distro? In the downloads I have there is no such utility. Where can I get this package? Thank you. Mo Welch, mwelch@ontarioeast.net From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Mon Nov 19 14:25:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:25:00 -0000 Subject: Installing XFree86 References: <3BF98417.7FF928FF@ontarioeast.net> Message-ID: <03a201c17149$0cbdc840$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> The bzip2 package in the cygwin distro. Rob === ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mo Welch" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 9:13 AM Subject: Installing XFree86 > Sirs: > I'm a total newbie; but seems to me if I need to use bunzip2 to > install XFree86 > then should there not be a copy of bunzip2 in the Cygwin distro - or > somewhere > in the XFree86 distro? In the downloads I have there is no such > utility. Where > can I get this package? > Thank you. > Mo Welch, > mwelch@ontarioeast.net > > From orlolro@telocity.com Mon Nov 19 18:55:00 2001 From: orlolro@telocity.com (Joseff Betancourt) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:55:00 -0000 Subject: window maker Message-ID: seems cygwin doesn't like spaces ithe name. I got windowmaker compiled but... when I do the wmaker.inst it doesn't fix it. this is the bottom portion of the error. WINGs error: could not open domain file /home/Joseff Betancourt/GNUstep/Default s/WindowMaker for reading: No such file or directory WINGs error: mkstemp (/home/Joseff Betancourt/GNUstep/Defaults) failed: No such file or directory Installation Finished /usr/local/bin/wmaker warning: /home/Joseff Betancourt/GNUstep/Defaults/ direct ory created with default configuration. /usr/local/bin/wmaker fatal error: could not open display "127.0.0.1:0.0" Seems it cant access the folder /home/Joseff Betancourt cause of the space (right?). How do change my home dir to point to /home/Joseff? Thanx $ --Joseff. ----footer---- Fav. Free Online game: http://infantry.sony.com Check it out. From rasjidw@bigpond.com Tue Nov 20 00:24:00 2001 From: rasjidw@bigpond.com (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:24:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge In-Reply-To: <20011119190300.GB1441@redhat.com> References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <036b01c170d1$002c17d0$2102a8c0@motile.net> <20011119190300.GB1441@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:03, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >Rasjid Wilcox had a very similar idea to winfree86 named winxterm (see > >http://lasp.sourceforge.net/winxterm/ ). He has already produced a > > minimal cygwin + xfree of about 4mb. If we can integrate the two > > projects winfree86 (or whatever its called) will be available much > > sooner. > > This sounds like YA ill-conceived fork. And, oh joy, oh rapture, it is > also YA GPL violation. > > I've Cc'ed Rasjid. Rasjid -- you need to provide the sources for the > binary packages that you are providing, in compliance with the GPL. Just > providing a link to cygwin.com is not sufficient. > By all means enlighten me about the GPL. On the 24 and 25 August 01, I posted to the list asking about GPL issues etc, and got no reply. (Well, in one email I asked about 'formalities', but what I meant was "Is what I've done okay? Who should I talk to? Please help me I've never put any open source stuff on the web before?". In the other I mentioned the GPL. Both were titled "Screen numbers", which makes sense when you read them.) I provided a link to my project so that people could have a look and inform me of what I needed to do, whether it was already being done or how it might be integrated with the main project. At the time I had only been on the list for 4 days, and was very new to the whole thing. On the whole I still am, so I'm sorry if I've broken some rules. It certainly was with no ill intent. The next step in my project was to remove the need for me to host any binaries anyway, and just to have a script the grabs the minimal set of required files from the cygwin-xfree mirrors. My guess is that the new setup.exe for Cygwin (perhaps with a very minimal amount of tweaking) would be able to do that too, in which case I don't have to do anything! (Except presumably take down the binaries.) If people are interesed, I'm more than happy to explain exactly what I want to achieve, why, and how it could be integrated with the main project. Rasjid. From jccura@laas.fr Tue Nov 20 02:10:00 2001 From: jccura@laas.fr (Jean-Christophe) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:10:00 -0000 Subject: inttypes.h for XMPS... Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20011120111011.00af34f0@popdisco.laas.fr> Hello ! i have a question about inttypes.h..... i have installed Cygwin on Windows2000, and now i'im trying to install XMPS (compiling it) who need this header... If you can tell me what is the package who generaly put this haeder, it will be good !! thanks.... ___________________ Jean-Christophe CURA LAAS-CNRS 7, avenue du Colonel Roche 31077 Toulouse Cedex 4 Tel: 05.61.33.69.19 http://www.laas.fr/ ___________________ From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Nov 20 03:41:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:41:00 -0000 Subject: window maker Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831A5@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseff Betancourt [mailto:orlolro@telocity.com] > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 9:55 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: window maker > > > seems cygwin doesn't like spaces ithe name. No, it does, neither any UNIX. Only Microsoft likes spaces, stars and moons Suhaib > I got windowmaker compiled but... > > when I do the wmaker.inst it doesn't fix it. > this is the bottom portion of the error. > > WINGs error: could not open domain file /home/Joseff > Betancourt/GNUstep/Default s/WindowMaker for reading: No such > file or directory WINGs error: mkstemp (/home/Joseff > Betancourt/GNUstep/Defaults) failed: No such file or directory > > Installation Finished > /usr/local/bin/wmaker warning: /home/Joseff > Betancourt/GNUstep/Defaults/ direct ory created with default > configuration. /usr/local/bin/wmaker fatal error: could not > open display "127.0.0.1:0.0" > > Seems it cant access the folder /home/Joseff Betancourt cause > of the space (right?). How do change my home dir to point to > /home/Joseff? > > Thanx $ > > --Joseff. > > ----footer---- > Fav. Free Online game: http://infantry.sony.com > Check it out. > From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Nov 20 03:48:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:48:00 -0000 Subject: window maker In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831A5@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > Joseff Betancourt wrote: > > seems cygwin doesn't like spaces ithe name. > > No, it does, neither any UNIX. Only Microsoft likes spaces, stars and moons Windows doesn't either. But most users do not use the shell very often. And then they realize, why it's bad to have spaces in directories. But, on the other hand, a script which assumes the path does not contain spaces is not correct. When I've got some time (around christmas or so), I'll take a look to the install script and fix this. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Nov 20 03:52:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:52:00 -0000 Subject: window maker Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831A6@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Alexander Gottwald > [mailto:alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de] > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 6:49 AM > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: RE: window maker > > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > Joseff Betancourt wrote: > > > seems cygwin doesn't like spaces ithe name. > > > > No, it does, neither any UNIX. Only Microsoft likes > spaces, stars and > > moons > > Windows doesn't either. But most users do not use the shell > very often. > And then they realize, why it's bad to have spaces in directories. I was refering to normal users. I am aware that MSDN does not recommend installing Visual Studio in directories with spaces in names. > > But, on the other hand, a script which assumes the path does > not contain spaces is not correct. When I've got some time > (around christmas or so), I'll take a look to the install > script and fix this. > Cool, thanx Suhaib > bye > ago > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 > From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Tue Nov 20 04:12:00 2001 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:12:00 -0000 Subject: window maker In-Reply-To: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831A6@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com>; from ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 06:51:58AM -0500 References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831A6@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <20011120131223.B18450@cygbert.vinschen.de> On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 06:51:58AM -0500, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alexander Gottwald > > [mailto:alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 6:49 AM > > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > Subject: RE: window maker > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > Joseff Betancourt wrote: > > > > seems cygwin doesn't like spaces ithe name. > > > > > > No, it does, neither any UNIX. Only Microsoft likes > > spaces, stars and > > > moons > > > > Windows doesn't either. But most users do not use the shell > > very often. > > And then they realize, why it's bad to have spaces in directories. > > I was refering to normal users. I am aware that MSDN does not recommend > installing Visual Studio in directories with spaces in names. Funny, that is. AFAIR the default install path for Visual Studio is "X:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio" on english language OSes. Space'o'mania... Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developer mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com Red Hat, Inc. From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Nov 20 04:17:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:17:00 -0000 Subject: window maker Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831A7@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Corinna Vinschen [mailto:cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 7:12 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: Re: window maker > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 06:51:58AM -0500, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Alexander Gottwald > > > [mailto:alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de] > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 6:49 AM > > > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > > Subject: RE: window maker > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > Joseff Betancourt wrote: > > > > > seems cygwin doesn't like spaces ithe name. > > > > > > > > No, it does, neither any UNIX. Only Microsoft likes > > > spaces, stars and > > > > moons > > > > > > Windows doesn't either. But most users do not use the shell > > > very often. > > > And then they realize, why it's bad to have spaces in directories. > > > > I was refering to normal users. I am aware that MSDN does not > > recommend installing Visual Studio in directories with spaces in > > names. > > Funny, that is. AFAIR the default install path for Visual Studio is > > "X:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio" > > on english language OSes. Space'o'mania... I know :-) Long time ago, I had often run into problems with default path... one day I was digging into MSDN CD's and saw a small note somewhere "install in c:\msddk" for example... Suhaib > > Corinna > > -- > Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails > regarding Cygwin to > Cygwin Developer > mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com > Red Hat, Inc. > From briangenisio@yahoo.com Tue Nov 20 04:58:00 2001 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:58:00 -0000 Subject: libXmu fails to build? Message-ID: <20011120125813.26822.qmail@web20803.mail.yahoo.com> Hey all, I downloaded the lates CVS last night, and did a build. I found that libXmu failed to build... with the following error : CvtStdSel.c: In function `XmuConvertStandardSelection': CvtStdSel.c:227: `hparams' undeclared (first use in this function) CvtStdSel.c:227: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once CvtStdSel.c:227: for each function it appears in.) make[4]: *** [CvtStdSel.o] Error 1 I took a look, and found the following block of code : #ifdef XTHREADS_NEEDS_BYNAMEPARAMS _Xgethostbynameparams hparams; #endif struct hostent *hostp; hostname[0] = '\0'; (void) XmuGetHostname (hostname, sizeof hostname); if ((hostp = _XGethostbyname (hostname,hparams)) == NULL) return False; When I remove the XTHREADS_NEEDS_BYNAMEPARAMS define, it compiles. Is this an error in the CVS tree? Brian __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From cgf@redhat.com Tue Nov 20 11:23:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:23:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge In-Reply-To: <200111200824.fAK8Ouw17375@mail.redhat.com> References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <036b01c170d1$002c17d0$2102a8c0@motile.net> <20011119190300.GB1441@redhat.com> <200111200824.fAK8Ouw17375@mail.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20011120182626.GA11848@redhat.com> On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 07:25:17PM +1100, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: >On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:03, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> >Rasjid Wilcox had a very similar idea to winfree86 named winxterm (see >> >http://lasp.sourceforge.net/winxterm/ ). He has already produced a >> > minimal cygwin + xfree of about 4mb. If we can integrate the two >> > projects winfree86 (or whatever its called) will be available much >> > sooner. >> >> This sounds like YA ill-conceived fork. And, oh joy, oh rapture, it is >> also YA GPL violation. >> >> I've Cc'ed Rasjid. Rasjid -- you need to provide the sources for the >> binary packages that you are providing, in compliance with the GPL. Just >> providing a link to cygwin.com is not sufficient. >> > >By all means enlighten me about the GPL. On the 24 and 25 August 01, I >posted to the list asking about GPL issues etc, and got no reply. >(Well, in one email I asked about 'formalities', but what I meant was >"Is what I've done okay? Who should I talk to? Please help me I've >never put any open source stuff on the web before?". In the other I >mentioned the GPL. Both were titled "Screen numbers", which makes >sense when you read them.) I provided a link to my project so that >people could have a look and inform me of what I needed to do, whether >it was already being done or how it might be integrated with the main >project. > >At the time I had only been on the list for 4 days, and was very new to >the whole thing. On the whole I still am, so I'm sorry if I've broken >some rules. It certainly was with no ill intent. I doubt that anyone who is performing a community service like putting up a web page ever has any ill intent. I have, however, communicated with a great number of people who are confused about the GPL and take it personally when they are contacted regarding it. I appreciate very much that you are interested in doing things the right way. I'm not sure how I missed your original mail. Bottom line: if you have no binaries on your page, then there is no need to provide sources. If you do have binaries on your page then the simplest way to be compliant with the GPL is to provide the corresponding sources. >The next step in my project was to remove the need for me to host any >binaries anyway, and just to have a script the grabs the minimal set of >required files from the cygwin-xfree mirrors. My guess is that the new >setup.exe for Cygwin (perhaps with a very minimal amount of tweaking) >would be able to do that too, in which case I don't have to do >anything! (Except presumably take down the binaries.) Yes. One of the primary goals of the new version of setup.exe was to allow XFree86 to be installed as a cygwin package. You can design a setup.ini which downloads as little or as much as you want. Or, just wait for XFree86 to show up as a package. cgf From rasjidw@bigpond.com Wed Nov 21 01:26:00 2001 From: rasjidw@bigpond.com (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:26:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge In-Reply-To: <20011120182626.GA11848@redhat.com> References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <200111200824.fAK8Ouw17375@mail.redhat.com> <20011120182626.GA11848@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 05:26, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 07:25:17PM +1100, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: > >On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:03, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >> >Rasjid Wilcox had a very similar idea to winfree86 named winxterm (see > >> >http://lasp.sourceforge.net/winxterm/ ). He has already produced a > >> > minimal cygwin + xfree of about 4mb. If we can integrate the two > >> > projects winfree86 (or whatever its called) will be available much > >> > sooner. > >> > >> This sounds like YA ill-conceived fork. And, oh joy, oh rapture, it is > >> also YA GPL violation. > >> > >> I've Cc'ed Rasjid. Rasjid -- you need to provide the sources for the > >> binary packages that you are providing, in compliance with the GPL. > >> Just providing a link to cygwin.com is not sufficient. > > > >By all means enlighten me about the GPL. On the 24 and 25 August 01, I > >posted to the list asking about GPL issues etc, and got no reply. > >(Well, in one email I asked about 'formalities', but what I meant was > >"Is what I've done okay? Who should I talk to? Please help me I've > >never put any open source stuff on the web before?". In the other I > >mentioned the GPL. Both were titled "Screen numbers", which makes > >sense when you read them.) I provided a link to my project so that > >people could have a look and inform me of what I needed to do, whether > >it was already being done or how it might be integrated with the main > >project. > > > >At the time I had only been on the list for 4 days, and was very new to > >the whole thing. On the whole I still am, so I'm sorry if I've broken > >some rules. It certainly was with no ill intent. > > I doubt that anyone who is performing a community service like putting > up a web page ever has any ill intent. I have, however, communicated > with a great number of people who are confused about the GPL and take > it personally when they are contacted regarding it. > > I appreciate very much that you are interested in doing things the right > way. I'm not sure how I missed your original mail. > > Bottom line: if you have no binaries on your page, then there is no need > to provide sources. If you do have binaries on your page then the > simplest way to be compliant with the GPL is to provide the > corresponding sources. > > >The next step in my project was to remove the need for me to host any > >binaries anyway, and just to have a script the grabs the minimal set of > >required files from the cygwin-xfree mirrors. My guess is that the new > >setup.exe for Cygwin (perhaps with a very minimal amount of tweaking) > >would be able to do that too, in which case I don't have to do > >anything! (Except presumably take down the binaries.) > > Yes. One of the primary goals of the new version of setup.exe was to > allow XFree86 to be installed as a cygwin package. You can design a > setup.ini which downloads as little or as much as you want. This is exactly what I want to do. I want a setup.ini that only downloads the minimal set up packages to get Cygwin-XFree86 connected to an XDMCP server. This is under 10MB. My only problem is that upon running setup.exe, if specifying Internet Install or Download, it overwrites the local setup.ini with the most recent hosted by cygwin. As this is desirable, my suggestion would be to have a *optional* second file that does a default 'ticking of boxes' function, similar to RedHat's kickstart file. If would define the defaults for which packages are 'skipped' and which are not. Different program vendors could include different 'Cygwin kickstart' files depending on which Cygwin programs they needed to complement their product. The user could / would still be given the ultimate choice - it would just make life easier for people that only want a select set up packages. If this is already effectively a feature of the new setup.exe, please tell me how to use it. The "Categories" look like they are part of the setup.ini downloaded too, so I don't think they will do what I have in mind. The 'hack' I had in mind was a script that started the setup.exe program, and waited until the setup.ini file was downloaded off the net, and then went through and 'trimmed' it down to only the packages required. It would be a horrible hack. If I had any C/C++ programming skills at all I would look at writing my suggested 'kickstart' function myself, but I don't. Cheers, Rasjid. PS. I have CC'd this to the cygwin list. From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Wed Nov 21 01:33:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:33:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <200111200824.fAK8Ouw17375@mail.redhat.com> <20011120182626.GA11848@redhat.com> Message-ID: <001701c1726f$a392d590$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rasjid Wilcox" > This is exactly what I want to do. I want a setup.ini that only downloads > the minimal set up packages to get Cygwin-XFree86 connected to an XDMCP > server. This is under 10MB. My only problem is that upon running setup.exe, > if specifying Internet Install or Download, it overwrites the local setup.ini > with the most recent hosted by cygwin. > > As this is desirable, my suggestion would be to have a *optional* second file > that does a default 'ticking of boxes' function, similar to RedHat's > kickstart file. If would define the defaults for which packages are > 'skipped' and which are not. Different program vendors could include > different 'Cygwin kickstart' files depending on which Cygwin programs they > needed to complement their product. The user could / would still be given > the ultimate choice - it would just make life easier for people that only > want a select set up packages. > > If this is already effectively a feature of the new setup.exe, please tell me > how to use it. The "Categories" look like they are part of the setup.ini > downloaded too, so I don't think they will do what I have in mind. At the moment, the only way is to define a metapackage - that is an empty package with no source, that simply requires the other packages you want to tick. Then instruct your users to select that package. Once setup.hint is able to be embedded in tarballs and still get used by setup, then you can have a local tarball that setup.exe will find when it scans the download cache. Rob P.S. This isn't on topic for cygwin either, it's a cygwin-apps discussion if anything. From rasjidw@bigpond.com Wed Nov 21 03:01:00 2001 From: rasjidw@bigpond.com (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:01:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge In-Reply-To: <001701c1726f$a392d590$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <001701c1726f$a392d590$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:33, Robert Collins wrote: > At the moment, the only way is to define a metapackage - that is an > empty package with no source, that simply requires the other packages > you want to tick. Then instruct your users to select that package. > > Once setup.hint is able to be embedded in tarballs and still get used by > setup, then you can have a local tarball that setup.exe will find when > it scans the download cache. > Thanks. I've had a look at http://cygwin.com/setup.html#setup.hint again, and once Cygwin-XFree86 starts being included in the setup.ini file, I think I will be able to get everything to work how I want it, depending on how the XFree part is packaged. I'm assuming that each part will be in it's own package? Rasjid. From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Wed Nov 21 04:23:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 04:23:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge In-Reply-To: <1006340563.2027105.0@sourceware.cygnus.com> References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <001701c1726f$a392d590$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> <1006340563.2027105.0@sourceware.cygnus.com> Message-ID: <20011121122257.I2959@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:01:49PM +1100, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: > Thanks. I've had a look at http://cygwin.com/setup.html#setup.hint again, > and once Cygwin-XFree86 starts being included in the setup.ini file, I think > I will be able to get everything to work how I want it, depending on how the > XFree part is packaged. I'm assuming that each part will be in it's own > package? > Depends what you mean by "each part". The easiest solution is to create three packages. One for the Xserver (XWin.exe), one for all the libraries and programs, and the other for the fonts. That gives the developers an easy route to releasing patched Xservers at a later date, and doesn't require the user to keep downloading fonts if a binary has changed. Breaking out into more packages means more time to maintain - that's the downside to it. Alan. From h.nardmann@secunet.de Wed Nov 21 06:02:00 2001 From: h.nardmann@secunet.de (Heiko Nardmann) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:02:00 -0000 Subject: Q: using dd to get an image of a CDROM? Message-ID: <200111211402.PAA17470@mail-int.cubis.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Can I use Cygwin dd command to get an image of a CDROM? If yes which device do I have to specify? - -- Heiko Nardmann (Dipl.-Ing.), h.nardmann@secunet.de, Software Development secunet Security Networks AG - Sicherheit in Netzwerken (www.secunet.de), Weidenauer Str. 223-225, D-57076 Siegen Tel. : +49 271 48950-13, Fax : +49 271 48950-50 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+7PNpm53PRScYygRAjWvAKDMzqmkgHZdUR8MPLGThE1T6zaUEACgwaRn vyYcdBak9S8Ei1QAL4EkP5M= =9COD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jccura@laas.fr Wed Nov 21 06:07:00 2001 From: jccura@laas.fr (Jean-Christophe) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:07:00 -0000 Subject: glibc.... Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20011121150526.00a88300@popdisco.laas.fr> did some body port a complete glibc on cygwin ?? it will be for a installation of some multimedia programms who need somme header like inttypes.h that is not on the base cygwin... thanks... ___________________ Jean-Christophe CURA LAAS-CNRS 7, avenue du Colonel Roche 31077 Toulouse Cedex 4 Tel: 05.61.33.69.19 http://www.laas.fr/ ___________________ From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Wed Nov 21 06:33:00 2001 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:33:00 -0000 Subject: Q: using dd to get an image of a CDROM? In-Reply-To: <200111211402.PAA17470@mail-int.cubis.de>; from h.nardmann@secunet.de on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 03:01:49PM +0100 References: <200111211402.PAA17470@mail-int.cubis.de> Message-ID: <20011121153232.X21630@cygbert.vinschen.de> On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 03:01:49PM +0100, Heiko Nardmann wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Can I use Cygwin dd command to get an image of a CDROM? If yes which device > do I have to specify? Wrong mailing list. Non-XFree question please to cygwin@cygwin.com. The answer to your question is "It depends." If you're running on 9x/Me, the answer is "no". On NT/2K/XP it's "yes". The device name is /dev/scd0 for the first CD-ROM, /dev/scd1 for the 2nd,... These special device names are documented in the online docs: http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-specialnames.html Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developer mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com Red Hat, Inc. From im@de.uu.net Thu Nov 22 02:22:00 2001 From: im@de.uu.net (Ingolf Markhof) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:22:00 -0000 Subject: HELP! - Xfree86 ignores my IBM Thinkpad 600E 3-button mouse Message-ID: <200111221022.LAA10614@noc14.de.uu.net> Hi! I recently installed cygwin/Xfree86 on a IBM Thinkpad 600E (a notebook). Although the 600E has a three button mouse, The middle mouse button is ignored by cygwin/Xfree86 and I thus can't paste. I first started X by startx which in turn runs xinit. But as a workaround, I switched to startxwin.sh which calls XWin to start X. XWin offers the '-emulate3buttons' option and this allows me to paste by pressing two mouse buttons at the same time. But how can I get cygwin/Xfree86 to use the 3-button mouse of the thinkpad? I tried to change mouse button functionality by xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 3 2" but had to learn the there is a five (!) button mouse defined: There are 5 pointer buttons defined. Physical Button Button Code 1 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 5 but even xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 3 2 4 5" has no effect on mouse functionality. I ever have: button functio 1 select 2 extend selection 3 none Any pointers? Regards, Ingolf From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Thu Nov 22 03:19:00 2001 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:19:00 -0000 Subject: missing _IceLastMajorOpcode in libICE Message-ID: <002101c17348$3685ea30$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Hi, I have found that the symbol _IceLastMajorOpcode isn't defined in libICE. Is there any reason, why this not could be included in the standard distribution. I'm asking because this is needed for kde 2.2.1 on cygwin and currently we have to build a patched library. Regards Ralf From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Nov 22 06:01:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 06:01:00 -0000 Subject: missing _IceLastMajorOpcode in libICE Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831AA@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> There is no reason, it should not be included. I must have missed it, sorry. You can add it to libICE.cpp and recompile libraries. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Ralf Habacker [mailto:Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de] > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 6:24 AM > To: Cygwin-Xfree > Subject: missing _IceLastMajorOpcode in libICE > > Hi, > > I have found that the symbol _IceLastMajorOpcode isn't defined in > libICE. Is there any > reason, why this not could be included in the standard distribution. > > I'm asking because this is needed for kde 2.2.1 on cygwin and > currently we have to build a > patched library. > > Regards > Ralf From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Nov 22 11:27:00 2001 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:27:00 -0000 Subject: libXmu fails to build? In-Reply-To: <20011120125813.26822.qmail@web20803.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Brian Genisio wrote: > Hey all, > > I downloaded the lates CVS last night, and did a build. I found that libXmu > failed to build... with the following error : > > CvtStdSel.c: In function `XmuConvertStandardSelection': > CvtStdSel.c:227: `hparams' undeclared (first use in this function) > CvtStdSel.c:227: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > CvtStdSel.c:227: for each function it appears in.) > make[4]: *** [CvtStdSel.o] Error 1 xfree-xpert says its now fixed in CVS bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From orlolro@telocity.com Thu Nov 22 13:39:00 2001 From: orlolro@telocity.com (Joseff Betancourt) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:39:00 -0000 Subject: Wmaker/login trouble Message-ID: Winmaker is giving me trouble I beleive this is because my cygwin user account is joseff Betancourt. The space is messing up the wmaker install. How do I set the home directory to /home/Joseff? I beleive this will fix it? --Joseff. ----footer---- Fav. Free Online game: http://infantry.sony.com Check it out. From Luciano.Gemme@marconi.com Fri Nov 23 00:07:00 2001 From: Luciano.Gemme@marconi.com (Luciano Gemme) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 00:07:00 -0000 Subject: window scrolling Message-ID: Hi all, We planned to use Cygwin as a replacement of Exceed to allow our product to run under WIndows (actually is a program build under Unix and ported under Windows with Nutcracker) Starting something like "startxwin.bat" there is a way to use Windows desktop instead of show the Cygwin desktop (these big green window, just to be clear) ? Other window manager, like Excedd allow to show the process inside Windows panels like all the others WIndows application Another question: is it possible to manage windows greater than the desktop? The "usual" Exceed automatically pans the windows if the mouse reaches the border of the desktop Thanks in advance From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Fri Nov 23 00:28:00 2001 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 00:28:00 -0000 Subject: window scrolling In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002f01c173f9$81700e20$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com]On Behalf Of Luciano Gemme > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 9:05 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com > Subject: window scrolling > > > Hi all, > We planned to use Cygwin as a replacement of Exceed to allow our product to > run under WIndows > (actually is a program build under Unix and ported under Windows with > Nutcracker) > > Starting something like "startxwin.bat" there is a way to use Windows > desktop instead of show the Cygwin desktop > (these big green window, just to be clear) ? Other window manager, like > Excedd allow to show the process > inside Windows panels like all the others WIndows application > Exceed supports a "multiple window mode", in which the exceed x server provides a own window manager. This window manager displays each application in a seperate native window. Currently the xfree server does not support a multiple window mode. There is some work in progress to provide an xlib with native window support (ntxlib on sourceforge) and and featuring the xfree server with gdi support, but if the xfree server would support a native window manager currently I don't know. Regards Ralf > Another question: is it possible to manage windows greater than the > desktop? The "usual" Exceed automatically > pans the windows if the mouse reaches the border of the desktop > > Thanks in advance > > > > From John_Tobey@notes.intdata.com Fri Nov 23 05:49:00 2001 From: John_Tobey@notes.intdata.com (John_Tobey@notes.intdata.com) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 05:49:00 -0000 Subject: Wmaker/login trouble Message-ID: <85256B0D.004BEA07.00@notes.intdata.com> Hello Joseff, It sounds like you should change your $HOME environment variable. Cygwin documentation describes how to do this. Regards, -John "Joseff Betancourt" on 22-11-2001 04:39:21 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com cc: (bcc: John Tobey/Intdata) Subject: Wmaker/login trouble Winmaker is giving me trouble I beleive this is because my cygwin user account is joseff Betancourt. The space is messing up the wmaker install. How do I set the home directory to /home/Joseff? I beleive this will fix it? --Joseff. ----footer---- Fav. Free Online game: http://infantry.sony.com Check it out. From John_Tobey@notes.intdata.com Fri Nov 23 08:08:00 2001 From: John_Tobey@notes.intdata.com (John_Tobey@notes.intdata.com) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:08:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 53 Message-ID: <85256B0D.0058A4BD.00@notes.intdata.com> I've been using Test53 for a week with no bad results. I notice that the Windows mouse cursor is no longer hidden and appears superimposed on the X mouse cursor, but I kind of prefer this to having it hidden, so I am not unhappy with the change. I had hoped that your changes in winkeybd.c and winwndproc.c might fix my async-popup-key-release problem, but they have not. I still get autorepeat when the popup comes while a key is down, and an 'Enter' keystroke passed to X if I dismiss the popup with the Enter key. Thanks! -John "Harold Hunt" on 11-11-2001 03:06:27 PM To: "cygx" cc: (bcc: John Tobey/Intdata) Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 53 Notice: Test53 needs to be tested thoroughly, as it is likely that I have broken things. Furthermore, Test53 will probably be the server that is used in XFree86 4.2.0, so any outstanding bugs need to be fixed within a week or two. Links: I just posted Test 53 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror (http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test53.exe.bz2 (1074 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20011111-1500.tar.bz2 (69 KiB) Changes: 1) winkeybd.c - winRestoreModeKeyStates () - This function is supposed to handle the case where the user switches out of Cygwin/XFree86, changes the state of a mode key (i.e. Num Lock), then returns to Cygwin/XFree86. Back in May I replaced a macro, WIN_XOR, with the C binary operator ^. At the time I didn't realize that I was using the binary operator instead of the logical operator. The end result is that some of the mode keys were toggled each time that Cygwin/XFree86 gained and lost focus, regardless of whether the key state had changed. The WIN_XOR macro is being used again, and I have added a note as to why the C xor operator cannot be used. This has been broken for months, I'm really surprised that no one noticed it yet. 2) winwndproc.c - winWindowProc () - Move the mode key state save/restore function calls to the WM_KILLFOCUS and WM_SETFOCUS messages, from the WM_ACTIVATE message. Enjoy, Harold From gregor@ghowey.de Sat Nov 24 09:23:00 2001 From: gregor@ghowey.de (Gregor Howey) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:23:00 -0000 Subject: xdmcp with kde crashes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, looks like I found a solution: Registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\MSTCP\ STRING: MaxConnections="500" seems to fix it. Defaults to 100 and is normally not included. many Greetings, Gregor Am Samstag, 17. November 2001 16:32 schrieb Gregor Howey: > Hello, > > I've some Probs with KDE via xdmcp on win98se on an athlon 1000 256 MB RAM > with an 3com 3c90x latest drivers to a suse 7.2 HP-Omnibook. > Chooser works fine, desktop loads fine most of the time. > > After some usage starting progs (kmail) in most cases the XWin-process dies > without any comments. > > The XWin-Versions I tried where the actual release, test-49, test-52 and > test-53 they all show the same behaviour. > > It's independent, if I use the das startup-script or starting XWin from a > bash. It also makes no difference, which setting I use for ulimit -n > > If I use a webbrowser on windows I dont't get any connections. > Netscape 4.78 tells: > can't locate host > or > tcp error not enpugh memory > > if i call netstat with cygwin/xfree it shows me round about 22 active > connections. > > IE says, can't reach dns. > > Than i removed all preferences Files from KDE (.kde and .kde2), copied back > the mail-Prefs. > This action lessend the effect, but didn't eleminates it it. Without Mail > prefs it'??s the same behaviour. > > Just before XWin Crashes I've seen refresh Problems of xosview. It didn't > redraw if I didn't made any input to Xwin (mouse movement was enough). This > effect I've seen one time, will look further for it. > > A trace file I can't find. > > Does anybody knows anything about this prob? > > best regards, > Gregor From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu Sat Nov 24 19:10:00 2001 From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:10:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin-xfree, kde hit the big time... Message-ID: <3C0060EB.5080407@ece.gatech.edu> [crossposted] "KDE 2.2.1, On Win32/Cygwin" http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/11/25/0231257 Kudos to Ralf, and all the cygwin/cygwin-xfree hackers... --Chuck From gp@familiehaase.de Sun Nov 25 17:01:00 2001 From: gp@familiehaase.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 17:01:00 -0000 Subject: freetype Message-ID: <141102077469.20011126020315@familiehaase.de> Hallo, What happened to freetype? I just tried to build v2.0.5, no way, they use a tool named 'jam', there is no longer Cygwin support included. Why? No I stay with v2.0.2 which probably builds OOTB with shared libs, I cannot believe that they have cut it down to what it is now... Ciao, Gerrit P. Haase mailto:gp@familiehaase.de -- =^..^= From FreeEmailSoftware1@yahoo.com Sun Nov 25 18:01:00 2001 From: FreeEmailSoftware1@yahoo.com (FreeEmailSoftware1@yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 18:01:00 -0000 Subject: >>>ADVERTISE TO 11,759,000 PEOPLE FREE! Message-ID: <3791856948.991306994491@m0.net Received: from dialup-62.215.274.4.dial1.stamford ([62.215.274.4] > Dear cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, *********************************************************** Would you like to send an Email Advertisement to OVER 11 MILLION PEOPLE DAILY for FREE? *********************************************************** Do you have a product or service to sell? Do you want an extra 100 orders per week? 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Internet Specialists From jcmst56+@pitt.edu Mon Nov 26 07:09:00 2001 From: jcmst56+@pitt.edu (John Morgan) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 07:09:00 -0000 Subject: problems... Message-ID: While trying to install xfree86 for cygwin, while running the Xinstall.sh script I get an error with extract.exe. It says that the file is bad and is being renamed. I have tried copies of extract.exe.bz2 from most of the mirror sites and the same problem occurs. I am running cygwin on a Windows 2000 Professional Box. Is there any reason why this would occur. Thanks John Morgan From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Nov 26 07:13:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 07:13:00 -0000 Subject: problems... Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831B9@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: John Morgan [mailto:jcmst56+@pitt.edu] > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:10 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com > Subject: problems... > > > > > > > > While trying to install xfree86 for cygwin, while running the > Xinstall.sh script I get an error with extract.exe. It says > that the file is bad and is being renamed. I have tried > copies of extract.exe.bz2 from most of the mirror sites and > the same problem occurs. I am running cygwin on a Windows > 2000 Professional Box. Is there any reason why this would occur. > Windows2000 and NT 4 may have a Microsoft version of extract.exe. If it is in your PATH, it can give errors. How about try setting path from bash shell export PATH=.:$PATH Suhaib > Thanks > John Morgan > > From siva.santhakumar@syntegra.com.au Mon Nov 26 15:46:00 2001 From: siva.santhakumar@syntegra.com.au (SANTHAKUMAR Siva-Syntegra AU) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:46:00 -0000 Subject: more command Message-ID: <03E30CF11DA2D311ACC600805F85B48B02E19A63@SYNRYD01NT05> Hi, I have installed cygwin and It's working fine, though I can not run more command, is there a problem with is command? Thanks in advance. Santha From briangenisio@yahoo.com Mon Nov 26 15:55:00 2001 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:55:00 -0000 Subject: more command In-Reply-To: <03E30CF11DA2D311ACC600805F85B48B02E19A63@SYNRYD01NT05> Message-ID: <20011126235521.83592.qmail@web20806.mail.yahoo.com> Wrong mail list... you want cygwin@cygwin.com. This list is for Xfree on Cygwin. To answer your question, Cygwin has less, a better version of more... does the same thing, but you can scroll up and down. I simply make an alias to less, and name it more, and I never notice the difference. Brian --- SANTHAKUMAR Siva-Syntegra AU wrote: > Hi, > > I have installed cygwin and It's working fine, though I can not run more > command, is there a problem with is command? > > Thanks in advance. > > Santha > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From druid@psu.edu Mon Nov 26 20:22:00 2001 From: druid@psu.edu (Ryan W Sims) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 20:22:00 -0000 Subject: still xterm probelms Message-ID: <3C02CEB7.28686.1576560@localhost> I've now upgraded everything to the latest version....still having the same problems with xterm. Am I the only one? -- RyanWDruid From fanarie@free.fr Tue Nov 27 02:34:00 2001 From: fanarie@free.fr (fanarie@free.fr) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 02:34:00 -0000 Subject: Uil compile problem Message-ID: <1006857256.3c036c282deef@imp.free.fr> I try to make uid file with uil but i 've got an error : yacc.y:256:NO OP yacc.y:243:NO OP lookup XmLabel = index of 28 my label.uil was : module ExempleLabel names = case_sensitive object hello : XmLabel{}; end module; I have install lesstiff and xfree correctly (i have no problem to make motif prog which don't use uil) CU Fr??d??ric P.S:excuse my poor english From jccura@laas.fr Tue Nov 27 04:14:00 2001 From: jccura@laas.fr (Jean-Christophe) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 04:14:00 -0000 Subject: Fwd: still xterm probelms Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20011127131150.00a886f8@popdisco.laas.fr> >X-From_: cygwin-xfree-return-7768-jccura=laas.fr@sources.redhat.com Tue >Nov 27 05:22:56 2001 >Mailing-List: contact cygwin-xfree-help@sourceware.cygnus.com; run by ezmlm >List-Unsubscribe: > >List-Subscribe: >List-Archive: >List-Post: >List-Help: , > >Sender: cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com >Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com >From: "Ryan W Sims" >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 23:22:31 -0500 >Subject: still xterm probelms >Priority: normal >X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v4.0, beta 40) > >I've now upgraded everything to the latest version....still having the >same problems with xterm. Am I the only one? > >-- >RyanWDruid no, me to, y can't run an xterm from the cygwin small windows, and when i make an xterm& on a distant computer, it's impossible to use the keybord on it ! ___________________ Jean-Christophe CURA LAAS-CNRS 7, avenue du Colonel Roche 31077 Toulouse Cedex 4 Tel: 05.61.33.69.19 http://www.laas.fr/ ___________________ From till.feilitzsch@ch.tum.de Tue Nov 27 08:45:00 2001 From: till.feilitzsch@ch.tum.de (Till Feilitzsch) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:45:00 -0000 Subject: Installing XFree86 Message-ID: <200111271650.RAA07101@zentrum.phys.chemie.tu-muenchen.de> Hi, it seems, I have the same problem. I've checked, the bzip2-package is installed (or at least it is marked to be installed in the setup-routine), but still I cannot start bunzip2 ....bz2. What did I do wrong? And where should I find bunzip2? Till The bzip2 package in the cygwin distro. Rob === ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mo Welch" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 9:13 AM Subject: Installing XFree86 > Sirs: > I'm a total newbie; but seems to me if I need to use bunzip2 to > install XFree86 > then should there not be a copy of bunzip2 in the Cygwin distro - or > somewhere > in the XFree86 distro? In the downloads I have there is no such > utility. Where > can I get this package? > Thank you. > Mo Welch, > mwelch@ontarioeast.net > > From jorgens@coho.net Tue Nov 27 16:10:00 2001 From: jorgens@coho.net (Steve Jorgensen) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:10:00 -0000 Subject: WM Message-ID: <01C1775E.53BB9CC0.jorgens@coho.net> Oops - I responded to the original message before seeing this. (question, not a challenge) What makes this inappropriate content for this list? On Tuesday, November 27, 2001 12:57 PM, Christopher Faylor [SMTP:cgf@redhat.com] wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 12:51:39PM -0800, Collin Grady wrote: > > KDE and xfce work in Cygwin ;) The second link is a guy trying to get > >Gnome working in Cygwin. > >http://sourceforge.net/projects/kde-cygwin/ > >http://my.dreamwiz.com/jbdoll/ > > Wrong mailing list. > > cgf > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html > Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html > FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ > From cgf@redhat.com Tue Nov 27 16:43:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:43:00 -0000 Subject: WM In-Reply-To: <01C1775E.53BB9CC0.jorgens@coho.net> References: <01C1775E.53BB9CC0.jorgens@coho.net> Message-ID: <20011128004344.GB6276@redhat.com> On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 04:12:34PM -0800, Steve Jorgensen wrote: >Oops - I responded to the original message before seeing this. (question, >not a challenge) What makes this inappropriate content for this list? http://cygwin.com/lists.html cgf >On Tuesday, November 27, 2001 12:57 PM, Christopher Faylor >[SMTP:cgf@redhat.com] wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 12:51:39PM -0800, Collin Grady wrote: >> > KDE and xfce work in Cygwin ;) The second link is a guy trying to >get >> >Gnome working in Cygwin. >> >http://sourceforge.net/projects/kde-cygwin/ >> >http://my.dreamwiz.com/jbdoll/ >> >> Wrong mailing list. From matthew.donald@motile.net Tue Nov 27 19:39:00 2001 From: matthew.donald@motile.net (Matthew Donald) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:39:00 -0000 Subject: more command References: <03E30CF11DA2D311ACC600805F85B48B02E19A63@SYNRYD01NT05> Message-ID: <00b201c177be$4c1af050$2102a8c0@motile.net> Try using the 'less' command cheers Matthew ----- Original Message ----- From: "SANTHAKUMAR Siva-Syntegra AU" To: "'cygwin-xfree@xfree86.cygwin.com'" Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 10:43 AM Subject: more command > Hi, > > I have installed cygwin and It's working fine, though I can not run more > command, is there a problem with is command? > > Thanks in advance. > > Santha > > > > From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu Tue Nov 27 21:26:00 2001 From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:26:00 -0000 Subject: Yet another Slashdot article Message-ID: <3C047590.6010305@ece.gatech.edu> is here: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/11/25/2245258 this time on cygwin+gnome. The site mentioned includes build instructions for several gnomish packages, but seems a little out of date (why provide instructions for compiling popt when popt has been part of the official dist since last spring? Also, providing instructions on how to build your own freetype library is SURE to tick off you cygwin-xfree folks...) Cool screenshots, tho (even if the guy IS using twm...) --Chuck From Degrees@admissions.net Tue Nov 27 23:42:00 2001 From: Degrees@admissions.net (Degrees@admissions.net) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:42:00 -0000 Subject: Get a University Degree...Easily! Message-ID: <541.364761.381921@admissions@mailcom> UNIVERSITY DIPLOMAS Obtain a prosperous future, money earning power, and the admiration of all. Diplomas from prestigious non-accredited universities based on your present knowledge and life experience. No required tests, classes, books, or interviews. Bachelors, masters, MBA, and doctorate (PhD) diplomas available in the field of your choice. No one is turned down. Confidentiality assured. CALL NOW to receive your diploma within days!!! 1-305-460-3278 Call 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, including Sundays and holidays. If you no longer wish to be on our list send a message to dropme@hotmail.com From dschack@Stadtwerke-Giessen.de Wed Nov 28 01:29:00 2001 From: dschack@Stadtwerke-Giessen.de (Schack, Daniel) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 01:29:00 -0000 Subject: unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0' xfree86 4.10 Message-ID: <51736CF0BC22D211BFBC00A0C9A3058F6E5CB6@exchange_server.stadtwerke-giessen.de> Hi I am newbie in using X. Unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0' is what I get when running startxwin.bat with the binary-instllation cygwin xfree6.4 4.10. In the startxwin.bat it says: get the newest cygwin1.dll but where can I get it? The snapshot dll binaries cannot be downloaded from me aund I got an 4.10 distribution? Display is set to 127.0.0.1:0.0 PATH has c\cygwin\bin;c:\cygwin\usr\XFREEr6\bin Trying to start with startx in c:\cygwin\usr\XFREEr6\bin delivers cannot cat .Xauthority and cannot connect to server and something aboout missing root rights for /tmp/.... What am I doing wrong? Where can I get the newest binary of cygwin1.dll? Help. Regards *********************************************************************** Stadtwerke Gie?en Abteilung Informationsverarbeitung Lahnstra?e 31 35398 Gie?en www.stadtwerke-giessen.de Daniel Schack Fon: (49) 06 41-708 11 29 Fax: (49) 06 41-708 34 80 e-mail: dschack@stadtwerke-giessen.de *********************************************************************** From kwirl@lucent.com Wed Nov 28 04:48:00 2001 From: kwirl@lucent.com (kwirl@lucent.com) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 04:48:00 -0000 Subject: Uil compile problem In-Reply-To: <1006857256.3c036c282deef@imp.free.fr> Message-ID: <462A45A5736AD411A6920008C7846B75037F5EAE@ge1884exch003u.de.lucent.com> fanarie@free.fr wrote on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:34 AM > I try to make uid file with uil > but i 've got an error : > yacc.y:256:NO OP > yacc.y:243:NO OP > lookup XmLabel = index of 28 > > my label.uil was : ... > I have install lesstiff and xfree correctly > (i have no problem to make motif prog which don't use uil) >From the Lesstif FAQ (http://www.lesstif.org/FAQ.html#QU1.13) Is UIL (User Interface Language) supported? Not really. Though there is some old code in place already it's unlikely you succeed with a project using it. Actually there are two versions of the uil compiler around: one is built as uil while the other executable is named newuil. The latter uses libUil as opposed to the older one which uses it's own code base. If somebody can correct me i'll be happy! Best regards Klaus (also having some unsupported UIL files laying around ...) -- +---------------------------+---------------------------+ | Klaus P. Wirl | Email: kwirl@lucent.com | | Lucent Technologies | Phone: +49 911 526-3626 | | Thurn-und-Taxis Str. 10 | Mobile:+49 171 970 6639 | | 90411 N?rnberg, Germany | Fax: +49 911 526-4193 | +---------------------------+---------------------------+ --- My opinion is my opinion is my opinion --- From dschack@Stadtwerke-Giessen.de Wed Nov 28 06:23:00 2001 From: dschack@Stadtwerke-Giessen.de (Schack, Daniel) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 06:23:00 -0000 Subject: unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0' xfree86 4.10 Message-ID: <51736CF0BC22D211BFBC00A0C9A3058F6E5CB8@exchange_server.stadtwerke-giessen.de> Hi I am newbie in using X. Unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0' is what I get when running startxwin.bat with the binary-instllation cygwin xfree6.4 4.10. I have the newest cygwin1.dll (1.353) for xfree6 4.10. at cygwin shellprompt: Administrator@OPERATOR /cygdrive/c/cygwin/usr/X11r6/bin $ sh startwin.sh _X11TransSocketINETGetPeerAddr: getpeername() failed: 128 _X11TransSocketINETConnect: ...SocketINITGetPeerAddr() failed: xsetroot: unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0' _X11TransSocketINETGetPeerAddr: getpeername() failed: 128 _X11TransSocketINETConnect: ...SocketINITGetPeerAddr() failed: twm: unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0' _X11TransSocketINETGetPeerAddr: getpeername() failed: 128 _X11TransSocketINETConnect: ...SocketINITGetPeerAddr() failed: xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0 or with MSDOS/Wondows startxwin.bat Messages are the same errors Here a version I constructed with the same negative result. rem startxwin_my.bat @echo off SET CYGWIN_ROOT=c:\cygwin SET PATH=.;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\bin;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\usr\X11R6\bin;%PATH% set PATH=c:\cygwin\usr\X11r6\bin;c:\cygwin\bin;c:\cygwin\bin\X11;%PATH%; echo %PATH% pause SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 echo %XHOST% echo %DISPLAY% pause SET PATH=.;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\bin;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\usr\X11R6\bin;%PATH% REM REM Cleanup after last run. REM if not exist %CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 goto CLEANUP-FINISH attrib -s %CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 del %CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 :CLEANUP-FINISH if exist %CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix rmdir %CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix REM Startup the X Server. REM start /B XWin -screen 0 1024 768 start /B XWin -screen 0 800 600 REM Startup an xterm, using bash as the shell. REM start /B xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash start /B xterm -sl 1000 -e /usr/bin/bash REM Startup the twm window manager. start /B twm :END REM Set a background color to comply with FCC regulations :) xsetroot -solid aquamarine4 What am I doing wrong? Please help me. Regards *********************************************************************** Stadtwerke Gie?en Abteilung Informationsverarbeitung Lahnstra?e 31 35398 Gie?en www.stadtwerke-giessen.de Daniel Schack Fon: (49) 06 41-708 11 29 Fax: (49) 06 41-708 34 80 e-mail: dschack@stadtwerke-giessen.de *********************************************************************** From RBodack@sseg.de Wed Nov 28 09:31:00 2001 From: RBodack@sseg.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger_Bodack?=) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:31:00 -0000 Subject: Again: Where to place xmodmap with startxwin.bat Message-ID: <540D22115D0CD311BC2E00A0246200EE0129466C@ssegadmin> Hi All, I am using startxwin.bat (from win2k) to start xfree. Where do I have to place the xmodmap to switch to a non US keyboard? - Is xinitrc executed from anywhere automatically? - Is Xresources read automatically? - Is DisplayManager.setup used (in xdm-config)? - is ~/.xinitrc executed? My guess: none of the above. Can you help? 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The website is located at http://www.sexnetpersonals.com and look me up under shelby1973 From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Nov 28 11:27:00 2001 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:27:00 -0000 Subject: unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0' xfree86 4.10 In-Reply-To: <51736CF0BC22D211BFBC00A0C9A3058F6E5CB8@exchange_server.stadtwerke-giessen.de> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Schack, Daniel wrote: > I have the newest cygwin1.dll (1.353) for xfree6 4.10. > _X11TransSocketINETGetPeerAddr: getpeername() failed: 128 ^^^ == ENOTCONN > _X11TransSocketINETConnect: ...SocketINITGetPeerAddr() failed: > xsetroot: unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0' Which version of windows? What kind network cards have you installed? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4 From holger.vogt@uni-duisburg.de Wed Nov 28 14:05:00 2001 From: holger.vogt@uni-duisburg.de (Holger Vogt) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:05:00 -0000 Subject: Again: Where to place xmodmap with startxwin.bat Message-ID: <3C055FBA.2070004@uni-duisburg.de> Dear R??diger, put it into startxwin.bat. This is my version: @echo off SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 SET PATH=%PATH%;\usr\X11R6\bin;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\bin cd c:\cygwin\usr\x11r6\bin start XWin-Test50 -screen 0 1024 768 -emulate3buttons 50 -engine 1 run xwinclip-Test03.exe run twm run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black run xmodmap ../lib/x11/etc/xmodmap.de Regards Holger Vogt From Peter.Franz.muc@web.de Wed Nov 28 14:42:00 2001 From: Peter.Franz.muc@web.de (PF Freemail) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:42:00 -0000 Subject: problems with function keys F1 - F4 Message-ID: <18952714832.20011128234216@web.de> Hi, first of all - thank you very much for cygwin xfree!!! I have a problem with my function keys F1 till F5. F6 till F12 is working good. I have also loaded a xmodmap file (see attachement) but there is no difference (xev told me the keys F1 till F5 are Ok). To find out what is wrong, I go with rlogin on my linux system and I have used the program showkey -a It shows me the following: ^[OP 27 0033 0x1b - This is F1 and don't work 79 0117 0x4f 80 0120 0x50 ^[OQ 27 0033 0x1b - This is F2 and don't work 79 0117 0x4f 81 0121 0x51 ^[OR 27 0033 0x1b - This is F3 and don't work 79 0117 0x4f 82 0122 0x52 ^[OS 27 0033 0x1b - This is F4 and don't work 79 0117 0x4f 83 0123 0x53 ^[[15~ 27 0033 0x1b - This is F5 and works 91 0133 0x5b 49 0061 0x31 53 0065 0x35 126 0176 0x7e If I call a xterm on linux (which works), showkey show the following: ^[[11~ 27 0033 0x1b - This is F1 and works 91 0133 0x5b 49 0061 0x31 49 0061 0x31 126 0176 0x7e ^[[12~ 27 0033 0x1b - This is F2 and works 91 0133 0x5b 49 0061 0x31 50 0062 0x32 126 0176 0x7e ^[[13~ 27 0033 0x1b - This is F3 and works 91 0133 0x5b 49 0061 0x31 51 0063 0x33 126 0176 0x7e ^[[14~ 27 0033 0x1b - This is F4 and works 91 0133 0x5b 49 0061 0x31 52 0064 0x34 126 0176 0x7e ^[[15~ 27 0033 0x1b - This is F5 and works 91 0133 0x5b 49 0061 0x31 53 0065 0x35 126 0176 0x7e I am using the Cygwin/XFree86 4.1.0 binary release and I have tried also the latest Test53 of server series. If I calling xmodmap -pke the keycode 67 till 71 is loaded with F1 - F5. Do you have any idea what could be wrong? Thank you. -- Best regards Peter Franz mailto:Peter.Franz.muc@web.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: xmodmap.de Type: application/octet-stream Size: 6022 bytes Desc: not available URL: From RBodack@sseg.de Thu Nov 29 03:15:00 2001 From: RBodack@sseg.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger_Bodack?=) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 03:15:00 -0000 Subject: AW: Again: Where to place xmodmap with startxwin.bat Message-ID: <540D22115D0CD311BC2E00A0246200EE01294676@ssegadmin> Hi Holger and all the others, xmodmap /etc/X11/xinit/xmodmap.de at the end of the startxwin.bat solved the issue. I also created a little desktop icon by modifying one icon from system32.dll with an X symbol... :-) Thanks to all, R?diger Bodack > > Dear R?diger, > > put it into startxwin.bat. > > This is my version: > > @echo off > SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > SET PATH=%PATH%;\usr\X11R6\bin;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\bin > cd c:\cygwin\usr\x11r6\bin > start XWin-Test50 -screen 0 1024 768 -emulate3buttons 50 -engine 1 > run xwinclip-Test03.exe > run twm > run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black > run xmodmap ../lib/x11/etc/xmodmap.de > > > Regards > > Holger Vogt > From efaugeras@cosmote.gr Thu Nov 29 04:35:00 2001 From: efaugeras@cosmote.gr (Faugeras Eric) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 04:35:00 -0000 Subject: Err 104 : Xfree86-twm Compatible with opengl application for cygw in ? Message-ID: Hi all, I built an openGl with the cygwin environment (using the glut libraries). This exe is works well. I have Installed the new release of Xfree86 with twm. This is also workig well. But I have 2 case of trouble: 1- When I try to start my Xserver (startxwin.sh) , when my opengl program is already running, I have the famous error 104: ddxProcessArgument () ddxProcessArgument () - screen -argc: 7 i: 1 ddxProcessArgument () winDetectSupportedEngines () - windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDrw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using WindowClient w1018 h 714 r 1018 l 0 b 714 t 0 XIO: fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0" after 0 requests (0known processed) with 0 events remaining XIO: fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0" after 0 requests (0known processed) with 0 events remaining 2- When I try to launch my opengl program, when my X server is running, my application crashs ( core dump), And I need to kill my X client (twm) with the Windows task manager (due to the no response of my client:). After I kill the X client I have the famous error 104: xterm: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) or killClient on Xserver "107.0.0..1:0.0" XIO: fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0" after 324 requests (0known processed) with 0 events remaining Remarks: ------------ My OpenGl application is build with gcc and glut32.dll, libglu32.a, libgl32.a. If I build the same application for the X client , its work. My version of cygwin1.dll is 1.3.5 , the Xfree86.Distribution is 4.10 So what can I do to be able to run my programs built for windows with the opengl librairies, in the same time of an Xfree86 Client ? ( Ok, may be using the Win32API instead of the glut librairie, but then I need to change the code, I lost the opengl portability ..., and programming with the win32API #$%%^$%#^#^%&#) Is it a bug from the glut library used by my application , the client twm, the X server ? Is it really a bug? Thank you for your help. From lars.falting@ausystem.se Thu Nov 29 08:09:00 2001 From: lars.falting@ausystem.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Lars_F=E4lting?=) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:09:00 -0000 Subject: Swedish characters? Message-ID: <8E2734629021D3118C3A00204808C89F04F267D5@aunt24.ausys.se> Have recently installed cygwin and xfree86. I noticed I had a US keyboard by default, so after some searching in the mail archives I found two alternatives to get back to my Swedish keyboard: a) xmodmap xmodmap.sv where I found the Finnish/Swedish xmodmap at gotti.org b) xkbcomp -xkm -m se_SE /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/se_SE.xkm Both ways works fine. I find most characters back in their right position on my keyboard. But the specific Swedish characters do not work. Nothing happens at all when I press them. The xmodmap.sv seems OK to me (defines the aring, adiaeresis and odiaeresis for the correct keycodes). Printing a file with these characters is no problem. How do I do to get these three characters to work? Should it work (that is, are they supported in cygwin)? /Lars From aquilapp@yahoo.com Thu Nov 29 12:39:00 2001 From: aquilapp@yahoo.com (Federico Ferri) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:39:00 -0000 Subject: A "xmodmap" interesting behavior Message-ID: <20011129203859.11251.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Ive found an interesting behavior into Cygwin's "xmodmap". Let me spent few words to make U undestand the contex: 1) Im "playing" with this environment: "CYGWIN_NT-4.0 NICNT_CW1 1.3.2(0.39/3/2) 2001-05-20 23:28 i686" NT is WS. "Linux RedHat 7.0 (kernel 2.2.16-22)" 2) On Linux ive installed as windows makers both "Window Maker 0.62.1" "Enlightenment 0.16.5" 3) My Cygwin's startup shell's cmd execute those steps: "Path settings" "Xwin startup" "xmodman to italian keyboard" "xhost to linux box" "Cygwin's xterm" "ssh to linux box and startup an xterm there" The last xterm sets all environment stuffs like DISPLAY etc.. Well, when i start "wmaker" everything is OK, but when i run "enlightenment" it start, but i was not able to move windows or use menus. While im trying to learn how to use other fonts server i launched Xwin without the Cygwin's xmodmap, so ive setted up the italian keyb's map from linux's xterm. I started Enlightenment and it was working fine!!!! Ive done a lot of tests, using both different unix's xfs (sun, aix and elder linux's versions) and internal font's path, but my E works only if i use linux's xmodmap or i don't use it at all. I still have some True Type Fonts trouble, but now i could say it work. I hope it could help! Bye Federico PS: Just an obvios question.. Does anybody get an idea abt this beavior? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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My wife , Jody and I live in Chicago. >I am an accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and I make pretty good >money. >When I received this program I grumbled to Jody about receiving ''junk >mail''. >I made fun of the whole thing, spouting my knowledge of the population and >percentages involved. I ''knew'' it wouldn't work. Jody totally ignored my >supposed intelligence and few days later she jumped in with both feet. I >made >merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old ''I told you so'' on >her when >the thing didn't work. Well, the laugh was on me! Within 3 weeks she had >received 50 responses. Within the next 45 days she had received a total >of $47,200.00 all cash!I was shocked. 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I deleted it, but later I wondered >if I should >have given it a try. Of course, I had no idea who to contact to get >another copy, >so I had to wait until I was e-mailed again by someone else.........11 >months passed >then it luckily came again...... I did not delete this one! I made more >than $90,000 on >my first try and all the money came within 24 weeks''. > > Susan De Suza, New York, N.Y. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >----------------------------------------------- > >'' It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money with >little cost to you. >I followed the simple instructions carefully and within 10 days the money >started to come in. >My first month I made $ 20, 560.00 and by the end of fifth month my total >cash count >was $ 62,840.00. Life is beautiful, Thanx to Internet''. > > Fred Dellaca, Westport, New Zealand > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >------------------------------------------------ > > >ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY >AND GET YOUR FREE BONUS >GET STARTED ON YOUR ROAD TO FINANCIAL FREEDOM! > > >================================================= > >If you have any questions of the legality of this program, contact the >Office of Associate Director for Marketing Practices, Federal Trade >Commission, Bureau of Consumer Protection, Washington, D.C. > > >//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > >ONE TIME MAILING, NO NEED TO REMOVE > >//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > >This message is sent in compliance of the proposed bill SECTION 301, per >Section 301, Paragraph (a)(2)(C) of S. 1618. Further transmission to you >by the sender of this e-mail may be stopped at no cost to you by sending a >reply to: refymove@yahoo.com with the word Remove in the subject line. > > >-------------------------THE END---------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From facey_brian@bah.com Fri Nov 30 13:17:00 2001 From: facey_brian@bah.com (Facey Brian) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:17:00 -0000 Subject: binary Xfree86 install Message-ID: <3C07F73A.5DF23E60@bah.com> Dear Cygwin, I am eager to install a binary version of Xfree86 on Windows NT. I have Cygwin base software loaded on an NT 4 Server. I download the software avilable via ftp/http. However, it keeps prompting me for the Xmod.tgz file, which was not available. Is this file necessary? In addition, to complete a successful install are there any special environment path variables that need to be set before running Xinstall.sh? Brian Facey From dan928@juno.com Thu Nov 1 02:55:00 2001 From: dan928@juno.com (Dan TheMan) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 02:55:00 -0000 Subject: X Windows Error Message-ID: <20011101.025318.-126104735.0.dan928@juno.com> Cygwin Service, I am trying to display a program via waldorf on X windows, and I keep getting an error stating: "Unable to open X Window Segmentation fault (core dumped)." I have been having problems with X windows, probably because I am running a router. I went to the router setup and typed in 6000 for my virtual server, filled in my IP address, and enabled it. Are there any other methods I can use to get X Windows to work? Thanks! Dan ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/ . From jbdoll@kepri.re.kr Thu Nov 1 04:33:00 2001 From: jbdoll@kepri.re.kr (Jong B. Lee) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 04:33:00 -0000 Subject: [patch] dlfcn.cc References: <3BC6F881.31110.C8ED34@localhost> Message-ID: <002d01c162d1$4496b960$4b0e4ea8@kepri.re.kr> Dear cygwin developers. Cygwin dl functions (dlopen, dysym, ...) fail when they handle null module or the current module. I made a little hack to using gmodule sources in the gnome cvs repository. With this patch, the gmodule (in glib-1.2.10, the stable version for now) works good like xNIX style. (After being dllized) (Using gmodule-dl.c NOT gmodule-win32.c) Attached file is the patched source. Following is a diff result. Jong B. Lee =============================================== 16,17d15 < #include < #include 30,137d27 < void * < find_in_any_module_using_toolhelp (const char *symbol_name) < { < typedef HANDLE (WINAPI *PFNCREATETOOLHELP32SNAPSHOT)(DWORD, DWORD); < static PFNCREATETOOLHELP32SNAPSHOT pfnCreateToolhelp32Snapshot = NULL; < < typedef BOOL (WINAPI *PFNMODULE32FIRST)(HANDLE, MODULEENTRY32*); < static PFNMODULE32FIRST pfnModule32First= NULL; < < typedef BOOL (WINAPI *PFNMODULE32NEXT)(HANDLE, MODULEENTRY32*); < static PFNMODULE32NEXT pfnModule32Next = NULL; < < static HMODULE kernel32; < < HANDLE snapshot; < MODULEENTRY32 me32; < < void * p; < < if (!pfnCreateToolhelp32Snapshot || !pfnModule32First || !pfnModule32Next) < { < if (!kernel32) < if (!(kernel32 = GetModuleHandle ("kernel32.dll"))) < return NULL; < < if (!(pfnCreateToolhelp32Snapshot = (PFNCREATETOOLHELP32SNAPSHOT) GetProcAddress (kernel32, "CreateToolhelp32Snapshot")) < || !(pfnModule32First = (PFNMODULE32FIRST) GetProcAddress (kernel32, "Module32First")) < || !(pfnModule32Next = (PFNMODULE32NEXT) GetProcAddress (kernel32, "Module32Next"))) < return NULL; < } < < if ((snapshot = (*pfnCreateToolhelp32Snapshot) (TH32CS_SNAPMODULE, 0)) == (HANDLE) -1) < return NULL; < < me32.dwSize = sizeof (me32); < p = NULL; < if ((*pfnModule32First) (snapshot, &me32)) < { < do { < if ((p = GetProcAddress (me32.hModule, symbol_name)) != NULL) < break; < } while ((*pfnModule32Next) (snapshot, &me32)); < } < < CloseHandle (snapshot); < < return p; < } < < void * < find_in_any_module_using_psapi (const char *symbol_name) < { < static HMODULE psapi = NULL; < < typedef BOOL (WINAPI *PFNENUMPROCESSMODULES) (HANDLE, HMODULE *, DWORD, LPDWORD) ; < static PFNENUMPROCESSMODULES pfnEnumProcessModules = NULL; < < HMODULE *modules; < HMODULE dummy; < unsigned i, size; < DWORD needed; < < void * p; < < if (!pfnEnumProcessModules) < { < if (!psapi) < if ((psapi = LoadLibrary ("psapi.dll")) == NULL) < return NULL; < < if (!(pfnEnumProcessModules = (PFNENUMPROCESSMODULES) GetProcAddress (psapi, "EnumProcessModules"))) < return NULL; < } < < if (!(*pfnEnumProcessModules) (GetCurrentProcess (), &dummy, < sizeof (HMODULE), &needed)) < return NULL; < < size = needed + 10 * sizeof (HMODULE); < modules = (HINSTANCE__ **) (unsigned long) (size); < < if (!(*pfnEnumProcessModules) (GetCurrentProcess (), modules, < size, &needed) < || needed > size) < { < return NULL; < } < < p = NULL; < for (i = 0; i < needed / sizeof (HMODULE); i++) < if ((p = GetProcAddress (modules[i], symbol_name)) != NULL) < break; < < return p; < } < < void * < find_in_any_module (const char *symbol_name) < { < void * result; < < if ((result = find_in_any_module_using_toolhelp (symbol_name)) == NULL < && (result = find_in_any_module_using_psapi (symbol_name)) == NULL) < return NULL; < else < return result; < } < 195,197d84 < static int dummy; < void *null_module_handle = &dummy; /* null module handler */ < 204c91 < --- > 206,209c93 < { < ret = (void *) GetModuleHandle (NULL); /* handle for the current module */ < null_module_handle = ret; < } --- > ret = (void *) GetModuleHandle (NULL); /* handle for the current module */ 237,242d120 < < if (ret == NULL && handle == null_module_handle) < { < ret = find_in_any_module (name); < } =================================================================== -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: dlfcn.cc.tar Type: application/x-tar Size: 10240 bytes Desc: not available URL: From wang@ifkm.mw.tu-dresden.de Thu Nov 1 04:42:00 2001 From: wang@ifkm.mw.tu-dresden.de (wang@ifkm.mw.tu-dresden.de) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 04:42:00 -0000 Subject: Problem With Characters generated using ALTGR Key for HP-UX Message-ID: <3BE15144.24560.48C570A8@localhost> Hello, After running xfree86 connectetd to HP-UX via XDMCP, and using xmodmap Xmodmap, french or german keyboard does not work properly anymore. The ALTGR key doesn't work correctly, and does not display the following characters with a french or german keyboard : ~{[|`\^@]. But with Tru64UNIX or LinuX works Xfree86 fine, no AltGr no problem. If somebody could give me some instruction about the solution I would thank very much... Best wishes ------------------------------------------------------ Institut fuer Festkoerpermechanik TU Dresden 01062 Dresden Z. Wang Tel. 0351/463 37972 Fax. 0351/463 37969 remail to: wang@ifkm.mw.tu-dresden.de ------------------------------------------------------- From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Thu Nov 1 04:52:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 04:52:00 -0000 Subject: [patch] dlfcn.cc References: <3BC6F881.31110.C8ED34@localhost> <002d01c162d1$4496b960$4b0e4ea8@kepri.re.kr> Message-ID: <1004619334.3325.1.camel@lifelesswks> On Thu, 2001-11-01 at 23:32, Jong B. Lee wrote: > Dear cygwin developers. > > Cygwin dl functions (dlopen, dysym, ...) fail when they handle null module or the current module. > > I made a little hack to using gmodule sources in the gnome cvs repository. > > With this patch, the gmodule (in glib-1.2.10, the stable version for now) works good like xNIX style. (After being dllized) > (Using gmodule-dl.c NOT gmodule-win32.c) > > Attached file is the patched source. > Following is a diff result. Hi Jong, please send patches in the format resulting from diff -up, and always include a ChangeLog. This is documented at http://www.cygwin.com/contributors.html . Thanks! Rob From flognat@flognat.myip.org Thu Nov 1 06:14:00 2001 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 06:14:00 -0000 Subject: X Windows Error References: <20011101.025318.-126104735.0.dan928@juno.com> Message-ID: Ehh lets take this from the beginning.. You have the WindowsMachine, and a UNIXMachine.. You want to run xfree on the WindowsMachine, and show a client from the UNIXMachine? Between these two machines there are a router and so on, making it hard to do a simple x-connection between the machines? Well then the easiest way is to use ssh, "ssh -X UNIXMachine" enables x11 forwarding and sets the display variable on the resulting term, if done from the xterm opened in the x11 window. Small problem solving thoughts of your setup, what are DISPLAY set to on the UNIXMachine where you try to run your application from? /Andy / Dan TheMan wrote: | Cygwin Service, | | I am trying to display a program via waldorf on X windows, and I keep | getting an error stating: "Unable to open X Window Segmentation fault | (core dumped)." I have been having problems with X windows, probably | because I am running a router. I went to the router setup and typed in | 6000 for my virtual server, filled in my IP address, and enabled it. Are | there any other methods I can use to get X Windows to work? | | Thanks! | | Dan | ________________________________________________________________ | GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! | Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! | Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: | http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/ . | -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From Scott.Prive@storigen.com Thu Nov 1 07:04:00 2001 From: Scott.Prive@storigen.com (Scott Prive) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 07:04:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree86 Message-ID: <88D2015B3AF7BF4B91272EC25A9FE097B7A5C7@XCHANGESERVER.storigen.com> Hi there, -----Original Message----- From: Bang, Steinar [ mailto:Steinar.bang@tandbergtv.com ] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 1:43 AM To: cygx Cc: Scott Prive Subject: RE: Cygwin XFree86 Scott Prive writes: > I have read the users guide and also the FAQ, and made > considerable effort searching Google for information > on displaying remote clients over ssh. Basically this should be enough: - open an xterm window on your Cygwin/XFree86 - type ssh -X your.other.host in the xterm, and reply to the prompt for a password if you get one That's exactly what I am doing, with the addition of "-l" to specify a user account (since the NT username in Cygwin is set to "Administrator", which doesn't exist on my RedHat 7.1 box). I log in remotely just fine. When I attempt to run an X11 application, such as "xeyes", I get no application window. I do not even get a returned shell prompt like I would after normal errors... the command just "sticks". Control-C returns the prompt, with no error displayed. You're now logged in on the remote host, with SSH X forwarding set. If you start an X application on that remote host, it will show up in your Cygwin/XFree86 window. That's what I'm expecting. :-) With "-v" verbosity, I see the following trail: [root@zaphod /root]# xeyes debug1: client_input_channel_open: ctype x11 rchan 2 win 4096 max 2048 debug1: client_request_x11: request from 192.168.100.21 35785 debug1: fd 8 setting O_NONBLOCK debug1: channel 1: new [x11] debug1: confirm x11 debug1: X11 connection uses different authentication protocol. debug1: X11 rejected 1 i1/o16 debug1: channel 1: read failed debug1: channel 1: input open -> drain debug1: channel 1: close_read debug1: channel 1: write failed debug1: channel 1: output open -> closed debug1: channel 1: close_write debug1: X11 closed 1 i2/o128 -Scott This email, its content and any attachments is PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL to TANDBERG Television. If received in error please notify the sender and destroy the original message and attachments. From flognat@flognat.myip.org Thu Nov 1 07:29:00 2001 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 07:29:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin XFree86 References: <88D2015B3AF7BF4B91272EC25A9FE097B7A5C7@XCHANGESERVER.storigen.com> Message-ID: Read the cygwin faq how to not be as administrator in the shell :-) And also.. check the environment variable $DISPLAY when you have ssh'd to the other machine.. send it here.. What are the IP's of the both machines? (substitute it with cygwin/unix I just want to know what points to which machine) Just a second thought, you are logged in as root on the other machine, give it a try as normal user. ahh | debug1: X11 connection uses different authentication protocol. | debug1: X11 rejected 1 i1/o16 Saw that before here, was that you?? /Andy | | That's exactly what I am doing, with the addition of "-l" to specify a | user account (since the NT username in Cygwin is set to "Administrator", | which doesn't exist on my RedHat 7.1 box). | | I log in remotely just fine. | | When I attempt to run an X11 application, such as "xeyes", I get no | application window. I do not even get a returned shell prompt like I | would after normal errors... the command just "sticks". Control-C | returns the prompt, with no error displayed. | | You're now logged in on the remote host, with SSH | X forwarding set. If you start an X application | on that remote host, it will show up in your | Cygwin/XFree86 window. | | That's what I'm expecting. :-) | With "-v" verbosity, I see the following trail: | | [root@zaphod /root]# xeyes | debug1: client_input_channel_open: ctype x11 rchan 2 win 4096 max 2048 | debug1: client_request_x11: request from 192.168.100.21 35785 | debug1: fd 8 setting O_NONBLOCK | debug1: channel 1: new [x11] | debug1: confirm x11 | debug1: X11 connection uses different authentication protocol. | debug1: X11 rejected 1 i1/o16 | debug1: channel 1: read failed | debug1: channel 1: input open -> drain | debug1: channel 1: close_read | debug1: channel 1: write failed | debug1: channel 1: output open -> closed | debug1: channel 1: close_write | debug1: X11 closed 1 i2/o128 | | | -Scott | | | | | | | | | | | | | This email, its content and any attachments is PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL | to | TANDBERG Television. If received in error please notify the sender and | destroy the original message and attachments. | -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From avalkryn@hotmail.com Thu Nov 1 07:31:00 2001 From: avalkryn@hotmail.com (Archai Valkryn) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 07:31:00 -0000 Subject: Help, I can't get X started! Message-ID: Okay, here goes. I've been trying most of the night to get an x session up on my win98se machine. The first problem I ran into was a username with a space in it. This is a single user machine, and logs me on as Archai Valkryn. That space wreaked havoc with pathnames. Eventually, I got it sorted out. ...and turned to trying to get an X session up. It won't go. If I just try to run xwin.exe directly, it gives an error about not being able to find cygwinx.dll. I assume that's a bad thing. The install also didn't give me a startxwin.bat file--anywhere. What next? +-------------------------------------+ | ___ | | __.--/) .-~~ ~~>>>>>>>> .-. | | (._\~ \ ( ~~>>>>>>>>.~.-' | | -~} \_~-, )~~>>>>>>>' / | | { ~/ /~~~~~~. _.-~ | | ~.( `--~~/ /~ ~. | | .--~~~~_\ \--~( -.-~~-. \ | | ```-'~~ / / ~-. \ .--~ / | | (((_.' (((__.' ```-' | +-------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From flognat@flognat.myip.org Thu Nov 1 07:35:00 2001 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 07:35:00 -0000 Subject: Help, I can't get X started! References: Message-ID: | The first problem I ran into was a username with a space in it. This | is a single user machine, and logs me on as Archai Valkryn. That | space wreaked havoc with pathnames. Eventually, I got it sorted out. Who was wreaked havoc? bash? Cygwin? cygwin x? /etc/passwd? | ...and turned to trying to get an X session up. It won't go. If I | just try to run xwin.exe directly, it gives an error about not being | able to find cygwinx.dll. I assume that's a bad thing. cygwinx.dll?? Thats new, haven't seen it before.. I think? | The install also didn't give me a startxwin.bat file--anywhere. What next? How did you install, which files did you grabb from where? /Andy -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From dunkel@ScienceSoft.net Thu Nov 1 11:08:00 2001 From: dunkel@ScienceSoft.net (dunkel@ScienceSoft.net) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 11:08:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin X-Free not installed in mounted root directory Message-ID: <3BE19DA3.FE8BE7B1@ScienceSoft.net> Following the Cygwin X-Free86 installation instructions gives me a 300 MB installation directory. But everything works -- great job! With less free disk space available, I removed programming support, fonts I'd never use, and most documentation to get down to a working 40 MB installation. I put the software in a separate directory and mounted it as the cygwin root (mount -b L:/myDir/cygwin /). Works, but I have a reason to keep the cygwin root directory set to L:/ while installing and running the software from L:/myDir/cygwin. I need help to get this to work (or am I just too greedy?). Now the mount command reports "\cygwindrive\l on / type user (binmode)" and the startxwin.bat contains "SET CYGWIN_ROOT=L:\myDir\cygwin". The bash shell works, but when I start startxwin.bat, it reports "Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb'" or font "fixed" not found. Is there a shell variable, undocumented XWin command line option, or any other magic to tell XWin what the root directory of my /usr directory tree is where it can find rgb.txt and the "fonts" directory? (CYGWIN_ROOT does not seem to do the trick and I don't want to change my root directory mount.) Any help would be greatly appreciated! ThanX, Reinhard From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Nov 1 11:18:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 11:18:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin X-Free not installed in mounted root directory References: <3BE19DA3.FE8BE7B1@ScienceSoft.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 dunkel@ScienceSoft.net wrote: > Is there a shell variable, undocumented XWin command line option, or any > other magic to tell XWin what the root directory of my /usr directory > tree is where it can find rgb.txt and the "fonts" directory? > (CYGWIN_ROOT does not seem to do the trick and I don't want to change my > root directory mount.) Any help would be greatly appreciated! XWin uses the same directory as all cygwin programs. You can adjust this globally with the tool mount. But you can also install XWin to every directory and mount /usr/X11R6 to that directory. This will keep the root untouched bya ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From flognat@flognat.myip.org Thu Nov 1 11:19:00 2001 From: flognat@flognat.myip.org (Andrew Markebo) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 11:19:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin X-Free not installed in mounted root directory References: <3BE19DA3.FE8BE7B1@ScienceSoft.net> Message-ID: It would probably be easier to start messing around with this from within a cygwin bash, firing up xfree through the startxwin.sh script.. Check if that works.. What does /usr/X11R6 look like from within the working bash shell? /Andy / dunkel@ScienceSoft.net wrote: | Following the Cygwin X-Free86 installation instructions gives me a 300 | MB installation directory. But everything works -- great job! With less | free disk space available, I removed programming support, fonts I'd | never use, and most documentation to get down to a working 40 MB | installation. I put the software in a separate directory and mounted it | as the cygwin root (mount -b L:/myDir/cygwin /). Works, but I have a | reason to keep the cygwin root directory set to L:/ while installing and | running the software from L:/myDir/cygwin. I need help to get this to | work (or am I just too greedy?). | | Now the mount command reports "\cygwindrive\l on / type user (binmode)" | and the startxwin.bat contains "SET CYGWIN_ROOT=L:\myDir\cygwin". The | bash shell works, but when I start startxwin.bat, it reports "Couldn't | open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb'" or font "fixed" not found. Is | there a shell variable, undocumented XWin command line option, or any | other magic to tell XWin what the root directory of my /usr directory | tree is where it can find rgb.txt and the "fonts" directory? | (CYGWIN_ROOT does not seem to do the trick and I don't want to change my | root directory mount.) Any help would be greatly appreciated! | | ThanX, | Reinhard | | -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! From avalkryn@hotmail.com Thu Nov 1 12:30:00 2001 From: avalkryn@hotmail.com (Archai Valkryn) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 12:30:00 -0000 Subject: Help, I can't get X started! Message-ID: ----Original Message Follows---- From: Andrew Markebo To: "Archai Valkryn" CC: cygwin-xfree@xfree86.cygwin.com Subject: Re: Help, I can't get X started! | The first problem I ran into was a username with a space in it. This | is a single user machine, and logs me on as Archai Valkryn. That | space wreaked havoc with pathnames. Eventually, I got it sorted out. Who was wreaked havoc? bash? Cygwin? cygwin x? /etc/passwd? /try getting *nix to recognize /home/Archai Valkryn as one path. Several commands had trouble with it, among them ls, cd, and anything that tried to use the $PATH variable. I changed my entries in /etc/passwd and renamed my home dir with windows explorer. | ...and turned to trying to get an X session up. It won't go. If I | just try to run xwin.exe directly, it gives an error about not being | able to find cygwinx.dll. I assume that's a bad thing. cygwinx.dll?? Thats new, haven't seen it before.. I think? | The install also didn't give me a startxwin.bat file--anywhere. What next? How did you install, which files did you grabb from where? /I used the automated installer from Cygwin and installed from the internet. Then I got the X files from one of the mirror sites (nas.nasa.gov, or something very close to that) as per the Cyg/X user's guide. I have all of those files, and I have only those files. Then I followed the directions in the UG for the X install. And there is no startxwin.bat. /There were a couple of things that made me wonder if the user's guide was up to date, at least for the X install. Some things in the install script were automated which, according to the User's Guide, should not have been. Anyway. /Andy -- The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dunkel@ScienceSoft.net Thu Nov 1 17:15:00 2001 From: dunkel@ScienceSoft.net (dunkel@ScienceSoft.net) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 17:15:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin X-Free not installed in mounted root directory Message-ID: <3BE1F3A2.66F56EF8@ScienceSoft.net> Bingo! Thank you Alexander and Andrew for your help. I did not know that I could simultaneously mount more than one file system location in the cygwin file system. So mount L:/ / mount L:/myDir/cygwin/usr /usr solved my problem. ThanX, Reinhard >> Is there a shell variable, undocumented XWin command line option, or any >> other magic to tell XWin what the root directory of my /usr directory >> tree is where it can find rgb.txt and the "fonts" directory? >> (CYGWIN_ROOT does not seem to do the trick and I don't want to change my >> root directory mount.) Any help would be greatly appreciated! > >XWin uses the same directory as all cygwin programs. You can adjust this >globally with the tool mount. >But you can also install XWin to every directory and mount /usr/X11R6 to >that directory. This will keep the root untouched > >bya > ago From peterch@ticketek.com.au Thu Nov 1 17:24:00 2001 From: peterch@ticketek.com.au (Peter Chun - SYD IT) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 17:24:00 -0000 Subject: rootless mode Message-ID: <200111020124.fA21O8J01379@thea.syd.ticketek.com.au> Hi, Does anyone know how to put cygwin-xfree86 into rootless mode? Or if that feature is to be implemented in the future? I have searched in the mail list archive, FAQ and google and not found anything.. The OS X version supports it though. Thanks Peter -- Peter Chun Fax: 9299 7588 National IT Phone: 9266 4180 Ticketek Pty Ltd Mobile: 0408 687 210 171 Clarence Street email: peterch@ticketek.com.au Sydney NSW 2000 Australia http://www.ticketek.com From cgf@redhat.com Thu Nov 1 19:59:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 19:59:00 -0000 Subject: setup.exe -- in case you haven't noticed Message-ID: <20011101225959.A7444@redhat.com> Robert Collins has volunteered to take over maintainership of setup.exe. Robert is the person who contributed the current category/dependency code to setup.exe as well as a lot of other improvements and bug fixes. Other setup.exe luminaries include Mat Hargett, Michael Chase, and Brian Keener -- as well as the usual cast of cygwin developers. I'd like to publicly thank Robert for taking on this chore. I'm really looking forward to getting the new setup.exe "live" on cygwin.com. As everyone can see, he's already making tremendous progress towards this goal. Btw, the new setup will enable us to have an "X11" category that will help people over in cygwin-xfree with their installation issues. This is one of the things that prompted the new setup.exe development. cgf From Steinar.bang@tandbergtv.com Thu Nov 1 23:20:00 2001 From: Steinar.bang@tandbergtv.com (Bang, Steinar) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 23:20:00 -0000 Subject: Problem With Characters generated using ALTGR Key for HP-UX Message-ID: <194F8BB4FDB2D311B4010008C733C774017E586A@no-mail.oslo.tandbergtv.lan> wang@ifkm.mw.tu-dresden.de writes: > After running xfree86 connectetd to HP-UX via XDMCP, > and using xmodmap Xmodmap, french or german keyboard > does not work properly anymore. The ALTGR key doesn't > work correctly, and does not display the following > characters with a french or german keyboard : > ~{[|`\^@]. If you start xev, and press the AltGr key, what keysym does it report? On my Cygwin/XFree86, it reports Mode_Switch, and I have the following line in the xmodmap file used by KDM to make it do so: keycode 113 = Mode_switch (Norwegian keyboard) - Steinar PS please don't send HTML to the mailing list. Thanx! This email, its content and any attachments is PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL to TANDBERG Television. If received in error please notify the sender and destroy the original message and attachments. From wang@ifkm.mw.tu-dresden.de Thu Nov 1 23:41:00 2001 From: wang@ifkm.mw.tu-dresden.de (wang@ifkm.mw.tu-dresden.de) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 23:41:00 -0000 Subject: Problem With Characters generated using ALTGR Key for HP-UX Message-ID: <3BE25C01.26194.282A8BAA@localhost> Hello, Xfree starts with XWin.exe -query UXMascine I have the line keycode 113=Mode_Switch in the file xmodmap, but it has always problem with HP-UX-CDE. I can not generate Character ~ | {[]} etc. with AltGr With LinuX-KDM or OSF-CDE it works fine. Thanx From briangenisio@yahoo.com Fri Nov 2 04:43:00 2001 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 04:43:00 -0000 Subject: rootless mode References: <200111020124.fA21O8J01379@thea.syd.ticketek.com.au> Message-ID: <20011102124353.3934.qmail@web20803.mail.yahoo.com> Peter, Rootless mode is not yet supported in the cygwin X server. The reason, if you are interested, is because the Cygwin port is in it's initial stages currently, where the X server is really a FrameBuffer based X server. To make a Rootless X server based off of the FrameBuffer architecture would take a lot of work, and be extremely inefficient. The developers are beginning on work to make the X server rely on the win32 GDI, which may allow for a Rootless mode... but my guess is that it will not exist until the GDI implementation has been completed and tested. So, for a simple answer, no, Rootless mode is not supported, and will not be for some time. Commercial X servers for Windows such as LabF's WinaXe, Hummingbird eXceed and Starnet's Xwin32 all include a rootless mode, but of course, are in no way free :) Brian --- Peter Chun - SYD IT wrote: > Hi, > Does anyone know how to put cygwin-xfree86 into rootless mode? > > Or if that feature is to be implemented in the future? > > I have searched in the mail list archive, FAQ and google > and not found anything.. The OS X version supports it though. > > Thanks > Peter > > -- > Peter Chun Fax: 9299 7588 > National IT Phone: 9266 4180 > Ticketek Pty Ltd Mobile: 0408 687 210 > 171 Clarence Street email: peterch@ticketek.com.au > Sydney NSW 2000 Australia http://www.ticketek.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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From roland@steeltorch.com Fri Nov 2 09:26:00 2001 From: roland@steeltorch.com (Roland Glenn McIntosh) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 09:26:00 -0000 Subject: xmms Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20011102122103.066d7d68@lnxmain> My initial experience with X on cygwin has been amazing, thank you to all who've worked hard to get this this far. Simply put, has anyone had success compiling xmms for cygwin xfree? I have successfully compiled / installed: audiofile-0.2.2 blackbox-0.61.1 esound-0.2.23 mpg123-0.59r I *think* I have successfully compiled / installed: glib-1.2.9 gtk+-1.2.9 <-- I'm suspicious of this And I can get xmms-1.2.5 to compile with a minor tweak, but when I run the executable, nothing happens. The process launches, and seems to hang. Has anyone out there tried to duplicate my efforts, and perhaps taken it one step further? (debugger?) From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Fri Nov 2 09:46:00 2001 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 09:46:00 -0000 Subject: xmms References: <5.1.0.14.2.20011102122103.066d7d68@lnxmain> Message-ID: <20011102184622.E17306@cygbert.vinschen.de> On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 12:26:08PM -0500, Roland Glenn McIntosh wrote: > My initial experience with X on cygwin has been amazing, thank you to all who've worked hard to get this this far. > > Simply put, has anyone had success compiling xmms for cygwin xfree? > > I have successfully compiled / installed: > audiofile-0.2.2 > blackbox-0.61.1 > esound-0.2.23 > mpg123-0.59r > > I *think* I have successfully compiled / installed: > glib-1.2.9 > gtk+-1.2.9 <-- I'm suspicious of this > > And I can get xmms-1.2.5 to compile with a minor tweak, but when I run the executable, nothing happens. The process launches, and seems to hang. Has anyone out there tried to duplicate my efforts, and perhaps taken it one step further? (debugger?) Try glib/gtk+-1.2.10 which compiles OOTB. Actually I had to apply one patch to glib-1.2.10/gstrfuncs.c. Change line 704ff. from #ifdef HAVE_STRSIGNAL return strsignal (signum); #elif NO_SYS_SIGLIST to #ifdef HAVE_STRSIGNAL #ifndef __CYGWIN__ extern char *strsignal (int sig); #endif return strsignal (signum); #elif NO_SYS_SIGLIST I have compiled vim-6.0 with gtk GUI and xchat-1.8.3 successfully with these libs. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developer mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com Red Hat, Inc. From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Fri Nov 2 09:52:00 2001 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 09:52:00 -0000 Subject: xmms References: <5.1.0.14.2.20011102122103.066d7d68@lnxmain> <20011102184622.E17306@cygbert.vinschen.de> Message-ID: <20011102185236.H17306@cygbert.vinschen.de> Oops. On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 06:46:22PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > Try glib/gtk+-1.2.10 which compiles OOTB. Actually I had to apply > one patch to glib-1.2.10/gstrfuncs.c. Change line 704ff. from > > #ifdef HAVE_STRSIGNAL extern char *strsignal (int sig); > return strsignal (signum); > #elif NO_SYS_SIGLIST > > to > > #ifdef HAVE_STRSIGNAL > #ifndef __CYGWIN__ > extern char *strsignal (int sig); > #endif > return strsignal (signum); > #elif NO_SYS_SIGLIST Sorry, I missed that line... Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developer mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com Red Hat, Inc. From info@ironing-board-covers.co.uk Sat Nov 3 11:30:00 2001 From: info@ironing-board-covers.co.uk (Look At This) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 11:30:00 -0000 Subject: Are YOU looking for a new website, to develop an existing website, for cheaper hosting or domain names? Message-ID: Are YOU looking for a new website, to develop an existing website, for cheaper hosting or domain names? 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From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Mon Nov 5 05:57:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 05:57:00 -0000 Subject: GDB errors Message-ID: <20011105135630.B2991@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Anyone tried to use GDB to debug XWin lately ? I'm constantly getting this.... Starting program: /X11R6/4.x/win-loader/xc/programs/Xserver/XWin.exe "/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/KERNEL32.dll": error reading line numbers "/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/ADVAPI32.dll": error reading line numbers "/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/RPCRT4.dll": error reading line numbers "/cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/WINMM.dll": error reading line numbers "/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/VERSION.dll": error reading line numbers "/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/SHELL32.dll": error reading line numbers "/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/LZ32.dll": error reading line numbers warning: Lowest section in /cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/sbENG32.dll is .rsrc at 10001000 /cygnus/netrel/src/gdb-20010428-3/gdb/coffread.c:472: gdb-internal-error: sect_index_text not initialized Quit Internal GDB error: recursive internal error. Internal GDB error: recursive internal error. Alan. From briangenisio@yahoo.com Mon Nov 5 09:16:00 2001 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 09:16:00 -0000 Subject: XIO error... anyone seen it? Message-ID: <20011105171624.83471.qmail@web20807.mail.yahoo.com> Hey all, I have 2 internal application which uses mostly XPutImage calls for one, and XpmCreatePixmapFromXpmImage calls for the other. Both of these have gotten the following error randomly. I havn't a clue why. Any ideas??? XIO: fatal IO error 105 (No buffer space available; the socket cannot be connected) on X server ":0.0" after 263 requests (262 known processed) with 0 events remaining. I am lost, and frustrated. Thanks, Brian __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Mon Nov 5 09:41:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 09:41:00 -0000 Subject: XIO error... anyone seen it? References: <20011105171624.83471.qmail@web20807.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20011105174054.E2991@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 09:16:24AM -0800, Brian Genisio wrote: > Hey all, > > I have 2 internal application which uses mostly XPutImage calls for one, and > XpmCreatePixmapFromXpmImage calls for the other. > > Both of these have gotten the following error randomly. I havn't a clue why. > Any ideas??? > > XIO: fatal IO error 105 (No buffer space available; the socket cannot be > connected) on X server ":0.0" > after 263 requests (262 known processed) with 0 events remaining. > I'd run up gdb or similar and single step your application to find out where these errors are being caused. Basically error 105 is ENOBUFS, which as it states is 'No buffer space available'. This it seems is something that Cygwin is throwing back from the kernel to the Xserver. Are you running the latest cygwin ? 1.3.3 ? Alan. From nmatrix9@excite.com Mon Nov 5 12:39:00 2001 From: nmatrix9@excite.com (n matrix) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 12:39:00 -0000 Subject: Trouble building Mozilla 0.9.5 Message-ID: <14935608.1004992767452.JavaMail.imail@derby> Hello Iam having a bit of trouble trying to build Mozilla 0.9.5 under cygwin/Xfree86 under winnt The configure script acutally ran successfully however when I try to make or make install I get the following message: make: *** No rule to make target 'widget/src/gtksuperwin/Makefile.in' needed by 'widget/src/gtksuperwin/Makefile'. Stop If anyone has any idea as to the error and to how to successfully build and install Mozilla please email me. From, nmatrix9 _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ From cgf@redhat.com Mon Nov 5 12:49:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 12:49:00 -0000 Subject: GDB errors References: <20011105135630.B2991@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011105155021.A22386@redhat.com> On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 01:56:31PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: >Anyone tried to use GDB to debug XWin lately ? > >I'm constantly getting this.... > >Starting program: /X11R6/4.x/win-loader/xc/programs/Xserver/XWin.exe >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/KERNEL32.dll": error reading line numbers >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/ADVAPI32.dll": error reading line numbers >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/RPCRT4.dll": error reading line numbers >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/WINMM.dll": error reading line numbers >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/VERSION.dll": error reading line numbers >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/SHELL32.dll": error reading line numbers >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/LZ32.dll": error reading line numbers >warning: Lowest section in /cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/sbENG32.dll is .rsrc at 10001000 >/cygnus/netrel/src/gdb-20010428-3/gdb/coffread.c:472: gdb-internal-error: sect_index_text not initialized >Quit >Internal GDB error: recursive internal error. >Internal GDB error: recursive internal error. Do you get the same problems with an older version of gdb? I'm just wondering if my recent gdb release (which you appear to be running) caused some problems. cgf From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Mon Nov 5 14:05:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 14:05:00 -0000 Subject: GDB errors References: <20011105135630.B2991@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011105155021.A22386@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20011105220449.H2991@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 03:50:21PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 01:56:31PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: > >Anyone tried to use GDB to debug XWin lately ? > > > >I'm constantly getting this.... > > > >Starting program: /X11R6/4.x/win-loader/xc/programs/Xserver/XWin.exe > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/KERNEL32.dll": error reading line numbers > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/ADVAPI32.dll": error reading line numbers > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/RPCRT4.dll": error reading line numbers > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/WINMM.dll": error reading line numbers > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/VERSION.dll": error reading line numbers > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/SHELL32.dll": error reading line numbers > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/LZ32.dll": error reading line numbers > >warning: Lowest section in /cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/sbENG32.dll is .rsrc at 10001000 > >/cygnus/netrel/src/gdb-20010428-3/gdb/coffread.c:472: gdb-internal-error: sect_index_text not initialized > >Quit > >Internal GDB error: recursive internal error. > >Internal GDB error: recursive internal error. > > Do you get the same problems with an older version of gdb? I'm > just wondering if my recent gdb release (which you appear to be running) > caused some problems. I've tried the 0428-1 release too, with pretty much the same results. Do I need to go furthur back ? Alan. From briangenisio@yahoo.com Mon Nov 5 14:26:00 2001 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 14:26:00 -0000 Subject: XIO error... anyone seen it? References: <20011105174054.E2991@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011105222338.69065.qmail@web20808.mail.yahoo.com> Yes, I am running cygwin1.dll v 1.3.3. I have been trying to debug the problem, and of course, running in a debugger makes it much harder to find where the problem is. I think the fact that the app runs slower in a debugger makes this buffer overrun problem no longer happen. (Sucks for finding the problem, eh?) In my application where I am having the most troubles, the XpmCreatePixmapFromXpmImage function is where it crashes out. This function is called many times in a row. I have tried a few things, with no improvement : 1. Call XFlush between calls 2. Call XSync between calls 3. Add a delay between calls. This tells me that the problem is probably being caused by the XpmCreatePixmapFromXpmImage itself. Some Pixmaps being loaded are as large as 2.6 MB (1280x960 in size) I hooked my app up to xmond, and found that the following protocol calls were being made (for 59 XPM calls): 1 CreateWindow 4 InternAtom 1 GetProperty 79 CreatePixmap 80 CreateGC 79 FreeGC 154 PutImage 23210 AllocColor 2 QueryExtension So, we see that a LOT of colors are being allocated quickly, and a lot of images are being put up to the X server in PutImage. Unfortunately, I am unable to catch it in the act (with the debugger or Xmon), so I cant tell you exactly where the problem is :( Keep in mind, this is the Application crashing, not the X server. Any ideas? Brian --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 09:16:24AM -0800, Brian Genisio wrote: > > Hey all, > > > > I have 2 internal application which uses mostly XPutImage calls for one, > and > > XpmCreatePixmapFromXpmImage calls for the other. > > > > Both of these have gotten the following error randomly. I havn't a clue > why. > > Any ideas??? > > > > XIO: fatal IO error 105 (No buffer space available; the socket cannot be > > connected) on X server ":0.0" > > after 263 requests (262 known processed) with 0 events remaining. > > > I'd run up gdb or similar and single step your application to find out > where these errors are being caused. > > Basically error 105 is ENOBUFS, which as it states is 'No buffer space > available'. This it seems is something that Cygwin is throwing back from > the kernel to the Xserver. > > Are you running the latest cygwin ? 1.3.3 ? > > Alan. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Mon Nov 5 14:38:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 14:38:00 -0000 Subject: XIO error... anyone seen it? References: <20011105174054.E2991@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011105222338.69065.qmail@web20808.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20011105223835.B9756@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 02:23:38PM -0800, Brian Genisio wrote: > Yes, I am running cygwin1.dll v 1.3.3. > > I have been trying to debug the problem, and of course, running in a debugger > makes it much harder to find where the problem is. I think the fact that the > app runs slower in a debugger makes this buffer overrun problem no longer > happen. (Sucks for finding the problem, eh?) > > In my application where I am having the most troubles, the > XpmCreatePixmapFromXpmImage function is where it crashes out. This function is > called many times in a row. I have tried a few things, with no improvement : > > 1. Call XFlush between calls > 2. Call XSync between calls > 3. Add a delay between calls. > > This tells me that the problem is probably being caused by the > XpmCreatePixmapFromXpmImage itself. Some Pixmaps being loaded are as large as > 2.6 MB (1280x960 in size) I hooked my app up to xmond, and found that the > following protocol calls were being made (for 59 XPM calls): > > 1 CreateWindow > 4 InternAtom > 1 GetProperty > 79 CreatePixmap > 80 CreateGC > 79 FreeGC > 154 PutImage > 23210 AllocColor > 2 QueryExtension > > So, we see that a LOT of colors are being allocated quickly, and a lot of > images are being put up to the X server in PutImage. > > Unfortunately, I am unable to catch it in the act (with the debugger or Xmon), > so I cant tell you exactly where the problem is :( > > Keep in mind, this is the Application crashing, not the X server. > Sure. I understand it's the application, and the error is coming back from the cygwin kernel. 1.3.4 is out, and maybe worth a try at least. You could set up some breakpoints for _XDefaultIOError (which is where the XIO: error comes from) and do a backtrace in gdb to find out exactly where things are coming from. This way the program should run at fullspeed. What's the platform and how much memory have you got ? what about the size of your paging file too ? what's the output of 'uname -a' ? Alan. From louisaturk@coxinet.net Mon Nov 5 22:06:00 2001 From: louisaturk@coxinet.net (Dr. Louis A. Turk) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 22:06:00 -0000 Subject: Version 4.2 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011106000250.00ad09c8@pop.coxmail.com> When will version 4.2 be out? Will it support unicode ISO 10646-1? Thanks. Louis From steve_obrien@hp.com Tue Nov 6 03:45:00 2001 From: steve_obrien@hp.com (O'BRIEN, STEVE (HP-UnitedKingdom, ex1)) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 03:45:00 -0000 Subject: FW: Re esound.dll [gnome patches] Message-ID: <72FAAE98015DD511B42600D0B747AC7F01471DCD@kipling.br.itc.hp.com> Please do not send me personal mail re cygwin. I have put my gnome patches at: http://website.lineone.net/~steven_obrien Sorry, no binaries, no ftp. Steven ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Volker Zell" Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 11:36 AM Subject: Re: esound.dll > >>>>> "STEVE" == STEVE O'BRIEN writes: > > STEVE> BTW I have been applying this technique to the gnome packages one by one, > STEVE> and have got as far as gtk-engines, building xfce-3.8.8b as a test platform, > STEVE> and so far all seems to work well. I am having difficulty with ORBit, so > STEVE> thats as far as I have gat to date. > > STEVE> Obviously, fixing libtool to generate dlls is a much preferable solution, > STEVE> but I offer these patches as temporary hacks to anyone who is interested. > > Is it possible to get the patches for the gnome packages you mentioned above. > > STEVE> Steven > > Ciao > Volker > From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Nov 6 11:01:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 11:01:00 -0000 Subject: GDB errors References: <20011105135630.B2991@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011105155021.A22386@redhat.com> <20011105220449.H2991@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011106190119.B27341@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 10:04:49PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: > On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 03:50:21PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 01:56:31PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: > > >Anyone tried to use GDB to debug XWin lately ? > > > > > >I'm constantly getting this.... > > > > > >Starting program: /X11R6/4.x/win-loader/xc/programs/Xserver/XWin.exe > > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/KERNEL32.dll": error reading line numbers > > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/ADVAPI32.dll": error reading line numbers > > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/RPCRT4.dll": error reading line numbers > > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/WINMM.dll": error reading line numbers > > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/VERSION.dll": error reading line numbers > > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/SHELL32.dll": error reading line numbers > > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/LZ32.dll": error reading line numbers > > >warning: Lowest section in /cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/sbENG32.dll is .rsrc at 10001000 > > >/cygnus/netrel/src/gdb-20010428-3/gdb/coffread.c:472: gdb-internal-error: sect_index_text not initialized > > >Quit > > >Internal GDB error: recursive internal error. > > >Internal GDB error: recursive internal error. > > > > Do you get the same problems with an older version of gdb? I'm > > just wondering if my recent gdb release (which you appear to be running) > > caused some problems. > > I've tried the 0428-1 release too, with pretty much the same results. > > Do I need to go furthur back ? > I've just tried to go furthur back, but alas, the 0428-1 and -3 releases are the only ones available. Chris - Is there anything I can test for you to track these gdb problems down ? Alan. From cgf@redhat.com Tue Nov 6 11:11:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 11:11:00 -0000 Subject: GDB errors References: <20011105135630.B2991@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011105155021.A22386@redhat.com> <20011105220449.H2991@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106190119.B27341@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011106141216.A6905@redhat.com> On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 07:01:19PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: >On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 10:04:49PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 03:50:21PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> > On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 01:56:31PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: >> > >Anyone tried to use GDB to debug XWin lately ? >> > > >> > >I'm constantly getting this.... >> > > >> > >Starting program: /X11R6/4.x/win-loader/xc/programs/Xserver/XWin.exe >> > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/KERNEL32.dll": error reading line numbers >> > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/ADVAPI32.dll": error reading line numbers >> > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/RPCRT4.dll": error reading line numbers >> > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/WINMM.dll": error reading line numbers >> > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/VERSION.dll": error reading line numbers >> > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/SHELL32.dll": error reading line numbers >> > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/LZ32.dll": error reading line numbers >> > >warning: Lowest section in /cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/sbENG32.dll is .rsrc at 10001000 >> > >/cygnus/netrel/src/gdb-20010428-3/gdb/coffread.c:472: gdb-internal-error: sect_index_text not initialized >> > >Quit >> > >Internal GDB error: recursive internal error. >> > >Internal GDB error: recursive internal error. >> > >> > Do you get the same problems with an older version of gdb? I'm >> > just wondering if my recent gdb release (which you appear to be running) >> > caused some problems. >> >> I've tried the 0428-1 release too, with pretty much the same results. >> >> Do I need to go furthur back ? >> >I've just tried to go furthur back, but alas, the 0428-1 and -3 releases >are the only ones available. Chris - Is there anything I can test for >you to track these gdb problems down ? If you are running the 0428-1 release you shouldn't be seeing the "error reading line numbers" messages, at least. Otherwise, building gdb from the CVS head is a possibility. There have been problems with insight that have prevented me from releasing a new version based on CVS but maybe 'gdb -nw' might work better. I will eventually release a gdb from CVS when everything seems stable, of course... cgf From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Nov 6 11:19:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 11:19:00 -0000 Subject: GDB errors References: <20011105135630.B2991@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011105155021.A22386@redhat.com> <20011105220449.H2991@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106190119.B27341@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106141216.A6905@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20011106191938.A3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 02:12:16PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 07:01:19PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: > >On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 10:04:49PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 03:50:21PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >> > On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 01:56:31PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: > >> > >Anyone tried to use GDB to debug XWin lately ? > >> > > > >> > >I'm constantly getting this.... > >> > > > >> > >Starting program: /X11R6/4.x/win-loader/xc/programs/Xserver/XWin.exe > >> > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/KERNEL32.dll": error reading line numbers > >> > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/ADVAPI32.dll": error reading line numbers > >> > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/RPCRT4.dll": error reading line numbers > >> > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/WINMM.dll": error reading line numbers > >> > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/VERSION.dll": error reading line numbers > >> > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/SHELL32.dll": error reading line numbers > >> > >"/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/LZ32.dll": error reading line numbers > >> > >warning: Lowest section in /cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/sbENG32.dll is .rsrc at 10001000 > >> > >/cygnus/netrel/src/gdb-20010428-3/gdb/coffread.c:472: gdb-internal-error: sect_index_text not initialized > >> > >Quit > >> > >Internal GDB error: recursive internal error. > >> > >Internal GDB error: recursive internal error. > >> > > >> > Do you get the same problems with an older version of gdb? I'm > >> > just wondering if my recent gdb release (which you appear to be running) > >> > caused some problems. > >> > >> I've tried the 0428-1 release too, with pretty much the same results. > >> > >> Do I need to go furthur back ? > >> > >I've just tried to go furthur back, but alas, the 0428-1 and -3 releases > >are the only ones available. Chris - Is there anything I can test for > >you to track these gdb problems down ? > > If you are running the 0428-1 release you shouldn't be seeing the "error > reading line numbers" messages, at least. > Correct. I don't. But gdb in both cases seems to stop, and I have to hit CTRL+C to terminate and this is where the internal errors pop up. > Otherwise, building gdb from the CVS head is a possibility. There have > been problems with insight that have prevented me from releasing a new > version based on CVS but maybe 'gdb -nw' might work better. > I always use -nw. So I'll try and grab the CVS. > I will eventually release a gdb from CVS when everything seems stable, > of course... > I need to debug now really, so CVS is my only hope.... Alan. From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Nov 6 11:46:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 11:46:00 -0000 Subject: GDB errors References: <20011105135630.B2991@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011105155021.A22386@redhat.com> <20011105220449.H2991@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106190119.B27341@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106141216.A6905@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20011106194648.B3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> > Otherwise, building gdb from the CVS head is a possibility. There have > been problems with insight that have prevented me from releasing a new > version based on CVS but maybe 'gdb -nw' might work better. > Is there anything specific I need to know to build gdb for cygwin. I've pulled the CVS, and configure blurts out problems finding install-sh and install.sh... Alan. From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Nov 6 11:50:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 11:50:00 -0000 Subject: GDB errors References: <20011106194648.B3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Nov 2001, Alan Hourihane wrote: > > Otherwise, building gdb from the CVS head is a possibility. There have > > been problems with insight that have prevented me from releasing a new > > version based on CVS but maybe 'gdb -nw' might work better. > > > Is there anything specific I need to know to build gdb for cygwin. > > I've pulled the CVS, and configure blurts out problems finding > install-sh and install.sh... That's a automake thing. call automake -a bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Nov 6 12:24:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 12:24:00 -0000 Subject: GDB errors References: <20011106194648.B3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011106202430.D3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 08:50:12PM +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > On Tue, 6 Nov 2001, Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > > Otherwise, building gdb from the CVS head is a possibility. There have > > > been problems with insight that have prevented me from releasing a new > > > version based on CVS but maybe 'gdb -nw' might work better. > > > > > Is there anything specific I need to know to build gdb for cygwin. > > > > I've pulled the CVS, and configure blurts out problems finding > > install-sh and install.sh... > > That's a automake thing. call automake -a > My fault - I was trying to jump into the src/gdb directory and run configure, when it looks like you have to do it from the src/ directory and get the other stuff too. Alan. From cgf@redhat.com Tue Nov 6 12:43:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 12:43:00 -0000 Subject: GDB errors References: <20011106194648.B3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106202430.D3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011106154405.C1479@redhat.com> On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 08:24:30PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: >On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 08:50:12PM +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote: >> On Tue, 6 Nov 2001, Alan Hourihane wrote: >> >> > > Otherwise, building gdb from the CVS head is a possibility. There have >> > > been problems with insight that have prevented me from releasing a new >> > > version based on CVS but maybe 'gdb -nw' might work better. >> > > >> > Is there anything specific I need to know to build gdb for cygwin. >> > >> > I've pulled the CVS, and configure blurts out problems finding >> > install-sh and install.sh... >> >> That's a automake thing. call automake -a >> >My fault - I was trying to jump into the src/gdb directory and run >configure, when it looks like you have to do it from the src/ directory >and get the other stuff too. Right. gdb doesn't use automake. You should look at the gdb web page, if you haven't already. It should have some instructions on building. http://sources.redhat.com/gdb/ cgf From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Nov 6 13:11:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 13:11:00 -0000 Subject: GDB errors References: <20011106194648.B3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106202430.D3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106154405.C1479@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20011106211154.F3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 03:44:05PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: > Right. gdb doesn't use automake. > > You should look at the gdb web page, if you haven't already. It should > have some instructions on building. > > http://sources.redhat.com/gdb/ > I did poke around, but it's certainly not obvious for building instructions. It seems that expect/pty_termios.c is currently broken too. *slave_name is defined at line 134 and 175, it also breaks at 379 due to duplicate definitions. I've patched it (patch below for your perusal Chris) and it's now building, we'll see...... Alan. (No doubt the patch needs tweaking). Index: pty_termios.c =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/src/src/expect/pty_termios.c,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 pty_termios.c --- pty_termios.c 2001/09/11 19:24:03 1.3 +++ pty_termios.c 2001/11/06 21:10:45 @@ -133,6 +133,7 @@ #if defined(HAVE__GETPTY) || defined(HAVE_PTC_PTS) || defined(HAVE_PTMX) static char *slave_name; +static char *master_name; #endif #if defined(HAVE_GETPTY) @@ -170,8 +171,10 @@ #endif /* HAVE_SCO_CLIST_PTYS */ #ifdef HAVE_OPENPTY +#if 0 static char master_name[64]; static char slave_name[64]; +#endif #endif char *exp_pty_slave_name; From Des.Hartman@icn.siemens.com Tue Nov 6 13:31:00 2001 From: Des.Hartman@icn.siemens.com (Hartman, Des) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 13:31:00 -0000 Subject: ./configure dlopen error - enlightenment Message-ID: <4B8DD52AB570D311BEDE0008C7E619880379B1FE@boca212a.boca.ssc.siemens.com> I have read all the posts about compiling enlightenment and have got quite far, but I am having a problem with the last piece. I have installed all the libraries, but have not recompiled X (trying not to do that). Downloaded binutils, cygipc and dllhelpers as per Cygwin utils, but no luck. This is the output I get when doing ./configure on enlightement 0.16.5 checking for esd-config... /usr/local/bin/esd-config checking for ESD - version >= 0.2.17... yes checking for imlib-config... /usr/local/bin/imlib-config checking for IMLIB - version >= 1.9.8... yes checking for Fnlib_init in -lFnlib... yes checking for ghttp_uri_validate in -lghttp... yes checking for freetype.h... no checking for freetype/freetype.h... yes checking for TT_Init_FreeType in -lttf... yes checking for dlopen in -ldl... no Warning: Enlightenment requires the dl (dynamic loader) library to be supported on your platform for module support. Modules have been disabled (this will affect functionality) configure: warning: Module Support Disabled (no dynamic loader) checking for XTestGrabControl in -lXtst... yes Any help will be appreciated Des From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Nov 6 13:40:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 13:40:00 -0000 Subject: GDB errors - the same problem with CVS References: <20011106194648.B3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106202430.D3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106154405.C1479@redhat.com> <20011106211154.F3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011106213954.G3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Sigh... The same error occurs in the CVS with error reading line numbers and the sect_index_text not initialized. Alan. From cgf@redhat.com Tue Nov 6 13:42:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 13:42:00 -0000 Subject: GDB errors References: <20011106194648.B3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106202430.D3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106154405.C1479@redhat.com> <20011106211154.F3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011106164319.A6518@redhat.com> On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 09:11:54PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: >On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 03:44:05PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> Right. gdb doesn't use automake. >> >> You should look at the gdb web page, if you haven't already. It should >> have some instructions on building. >> >> http://sources.redhat.com/gdb/ >> >I did poke around, but it's certainly not obvious for building >instructions. > >It seems that expect/pty_termios.c is currently broken too. *slave_name >is defined at line 134 and 175, it also breaks at 379 due to duplicate >definitions. > >I've patched it (patch below for your perusal Chris) and it's now building, >we'll see...... Something must be wrong because Cygwin doesn't have openpty. I've just rerun configure and expect's expect_cf.h doesn't define HAVE_OPENPTY. However, you don't have to build expect for gdb. You can just remove the expect and dejagnu directories if you aren't going to be running the gdb testsuite. cgf >(No doubt the patch needs tweaking). > >Index: pty_termios.c >=================================================================== >RCS file: /cvs/src/src/expect/pty_termios.c,v >retrieving revision 1.3 >diff -u -r1.3 pty_termios.c >--- pty_termios.c 2001/09/11 19:24:03 1.3 >+++ pty_termios.c 2001/11/06 21:10:45 >@@ -133,6 +133,7 @@ > > #if defined(HAVE__GETPTY) || defined(HAVE_PTC_PTS) || defined(HAVE_PTMX) > static char *slave_name; >+static char *master_name; > #endif > > #if defined(HAVE_GETPTY) >@@ -170,8 +171,10 @@ > #endif /* HAVE_SCO_CLIST_PTYS */ > > #ifdef HAVE_OPENPTY >+#if 0 > static char master_name[64]; > static char slave_name[64]; >+#endif > #endif > > char *exp_pty_slave_name; From cgf@redhat.com Tue Nov 6 13:49:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 13:49:00 -0000 Subject: GDB errors - the same problem with CVS References: <20011106194648.B3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106202430.D3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106154405.C1479@redhat.com> <20011106211154.F3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106213954.G3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011106164952.B6518@redhat.com> On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 09:39:54PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: >Sigh... The same error occurs in the CVS with error reading line numbers >and the sect_index_text not initialized. Ok. That's actually good news. Thanks for doing this. Now the next step is to send your error to the gdb@sources.redhat.com mailing list. With luck, someone there will have some insight into this problem. Unfortunately, although I manage gdb engineers, I don't have any understanding about low level gdb. cgf From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Nov 6 14:03:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 14:03:00 -0000 Subject: GDB errors - the same problem with CVS References: <20011106194648.B3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106202430.D3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106154405.C1479@redhat.com> <20011106211154.F3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106213954.G3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106164952.B6518@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20011106220351.I3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 04:49:52PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 09:39:54PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: > >Sigh... The same error occurs in the CVS with error reading line numbers > >and the sect_index_text not initialized. > > Ok. That's actually good news. Thanks for doing this. > > Now the next step is to send your error to the gdb@sources.redhat.com mailing > list. With luck, someone there will have some insight into this problem. > > Unfortunately, although I manage gdb engineers, I don't have any understanding > about low level gdb. > O.k. will do. Alan. From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Nov 6 14:03:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 14:03:00 -0000 Subject: GDB errors References: <20011106194648.B3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106202430.D3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106154405.C1479@redhat.com> <20011106211154.F3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106164319.A6518@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20011106220340.H3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 04:43:19PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: > Something must be wrong because Cygwin doesn't have openpty. > > I've just rerun configure and expect's expect_cf.h doesn't define > HAVE_OPENPTY. > All I did is what was listed on http://sources.redhat.com/gdb/current using all the standard setup.exe provided tools. I.E. cvs co gdb+dejagnu then ./configure in the src directory. > However, you don't have to build expect for gdb. > > You can just remove the expect and dejagnu directories if you aren't going > to be running the gdb testsuite. > That's contradicting the cvs checkout documentation. It explicitly says 'Checking out and building both GDB and DEJAGNU is recommended'. Maybe this could be tweaked as it's misleading if you don't need them. Alan. From cgf@redhat.com Tue Nov 6 14:31:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 14:31:00 -0000 Subject: GDB errors References: <20011106194648.B3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106202430.D3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106154405.C1479@redhat.com> <20011106211154.F3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106164319.A6518@redhat.com> <20011106220340.H3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011106173205.C6954@redhat.com> On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 10:03:40PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: >On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 04:43:19PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> Something must be wrong because Cygwin doesn't have openpty. >> >> I've just rerun configure and expect's expect_cf.h doesn't define >> HAVE_OPENPTY. >> >All I did is what was listed on http://sources.redhat.com/gdb/current >using all the standard setup.exe provided tools. > >I.E. cvs co gdb+dejagnu > >then ./configure in the src directory. Maybe that's the problem. Don't configure in the source directory. gdb+gcc+cygwin (at the very least) all suggest that you should build in a separate "build" directory. >> However, you don't have to build expect for gdb. >> >> You can just remove the expect and dejagnu directories if you aren't going >> to be running the gdb testsuite. >> >That's contradicting the cvs checkout documentation. It explicitly says >'Checking out and building both GDB and DEJAGNU is recommended'. Maybe >this could be tweaked as it's misleading if you don't need them. I was just trying to help you along with a recommendation. Since you would never be running expect.exe, there was no reason to build it. cgf From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Nov 6 14:45:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 14:45:00 -0000 Subject: GDB errors References: <20011106194648.B3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106202430.D3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106154405.C1479@redhat.com> <20011106211154.F3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106164319.A6518@redhat.com> <20011106220340.H3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106173205.C6954@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20011106224547.K3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 05:32:05PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >That's contradicting the cvs checkout documentation. It explicitly says > >'Checking out and building both GDB and DEJAGNU is recommended'. Maybe > >this could be tweaked as it's misleading if you don't need them. > > I was just trying to help you along with a recommendation. Since you > would never be running expect.exe, there was no reason to build it. > No problem Chris. I understand. Both ways we're just giving each other feedback. And thanks for your help and pointers - it is appreciated. Alan. From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Wed Nov 7 01:56:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 01:56:00 -0000 Subject: GDB errors - the same problem with CVS References: <20011106194648.B3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106202430.D3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106154405.C1479@redhat.com> <20011106211154.F3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106213954.G3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106164952.B6518@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20011107095627.C2955@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 04:49:52PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 09:39:54PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: > >Sigh... The same error occurs in the CVS with error reading line numbers > >and the sect_index_text not initialized. > > Ok. That's actually good news. Thanks for doing this. > > Now the next step is to send your error to the gdb@sources.redhat.com mailing > list. With luck, someone there will have some insight into this problem. > > Unfortunately, although I manage gdb engineers, I don't have any understanding > about low level gdb. > Chris, Interestingly enough. I've just bought myself a copy of Win2K (upgrade) and now it works. GDB is only broken on WinNT 4.0 platforms. Alan. From list-cygwin.xfree@spoiled.org Wed Nov 7 09:19:00 2001 From: list-cygwin.xfree@spoiled.org (thomas graichen) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 09:19:00 -0000 Subject: xmodmap, xkb and XF86Config References: <20011031163802.96995.qmail@web11503.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Robert Legros wrote: > More information after what Laurent Pinchart, > Alexander Gottwald and thomas graichen have said and > written ... > Please keep it simple, guys ! > First, when you have installed Cygwin/XFree86 > version 4.1.0, copy the file xinitrc in your home > directory : > cp -p /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc ~/.xinitrc > Then edit this new file and add the following line > just before the window manager startup line (twm) : > setxkbmap be > 'be' (for Belgium) has to be replaced by your own > keyboard country code. > That's all ! yes - but not if you want to query an xdm via xdmcp and want to be able to use the same session from a machine with a us and from a non us keyboard ... the problem with all the xmodmap setxkbmap etc. settings is: they have to be set from an x-client which you may not nesecary have available in a reproducable session if you are querying via xdmcp (see above situation) - the real solution is only to set the keyboard from the server (via cmdline or configfile or whatever) itself - so you set it from where also the keyboard is you want to set it for ... t -- thomas graichen ... perfection is reached, not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away. --- antoine de saint-exupery From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Nov 7 09:32:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 09:32:00 -0000 Subject: xmodmap, xkb and XF86Config References: Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Nov 2001, thomas graichen wrote: > Robert Legros wrote: > > yes - but not if you want to query an xdm via xdmcp and want to > be able to use the same session from a machine with a us and from > a non us keyboard Compile a keymap and place it in /tmp (eg. /tmp/be.xkm) Then start Xwin and add the switch -xkbmap be Or better, start writing support for a configuration file. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From sroush1@qwest.net Wed Nov 7 10:44:00 2001 From: sroush1@qwest.net (steve roush) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 10:44:00 -0000 Subject: Bad performance a common problem? Message-ID: <3BE98109.99C1D618@qwest.net> I also found Cygwin/XFree86 performance to be very slow on my Win98 system (for example, the mouse cursor just seemed to hop around, instead of moving smoothly). By watching the MS "System Monitor" while starting & terminating processes, I found that ssh-agent was driving Kereal Processor Usage to 100%. Because I'm running local & not connecting to any other systems w/ X, I commented out the line in startxwin.sh and the Kernel Processor Usage dropped to 50-75%, depending on the other processes I was running (like Netscape & XEmacs). Performance is MUCH better!. Is this 'normal' for ssh-agent? steve roush > To: , "Cygwin XFree86 list" cygwin dot com> > Subject: RE: Bad performance a common problem? > From: "Harold Hunt" > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 20:57:36 -0400 > Tim, > Did a 'normal' install work better than the 'minimal' install? > Performance problems with Cygwin/XFree86 do happen on certain machines. I > use Windows 2000 with limited third party software and have never had a > performance problem. I used an HP Windows Me machine last week loaded with > crap software and experienced the worst Cygwin/XFree86 performance I have > ever seen. I would call the performance unusable, just as you did. > Now, do we know the root of the problem? No. > Will we maybe look into it if you, or another person with the same problem, > provide us with detailed information? Yes. > Will we look into it otherwise? No. > Harold > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com > > [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com]On Behalf Of Tim Koenig > > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 2:06 PM > > To: Cygwin XFree86 list > > Subject: Bad performance a common problem? > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm currently testing a 'minimal' installation of XFree86/Cygwin, > > using only cygwin1.dll, cygz.dll and Xwin.exe, getting everything > > (including fonts) from a Linux server. > > > > It works as expected, but it's _unusable_ slow. > > > > Does anyone know the reason and a possible solution [OS is Windows 95]? > > > > I can rule out the server side issue, since performance is > > adequately fast when I use a Linux client with the same settings. > > > > TIA, Tim From cgf@redhat.com Wed Nov 7 14:01:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 14:01:00 -0000 Subject: GDB errors - the same problem with CVS References: <20011106194648.B3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106202430.D3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106154405.C1479@redhat.com> <20011106211154.F3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106213954.G3106@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011106164952.B6518@redhat.com> <20011107095627.C2955@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011107170103.C6796@redhat.com> On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 09:56:27AM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: >On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 04:49:52PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 09:39:54PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: >> >Sigh... The same error occurs in the CVS with error reading line numbers >> >and the sect_index_text not initialized. >> >> Ok. That's actually good news. Thanks for doing this. >> >> Now the next step is to send your error to the gdb@sources.redhat.com mailing >> list. With luck, someone there will have some insight into this problem. >> >> Unfortunately, although I manage gdb engineers, I don't have any understanding >> about low level gdb. > >Interestingly enough. I've just bought myself a copy of Win2K (upgrade) >and now it works. GDB is only broken on WinNT 4.0 platforms. Hmm. Weird. I have NT 4 on a couple of systems. I guess I could boot it and try it but it looks like it was related to a specific DLL that I may not have anyway... cgf From cancellus@knology.net Wed Nov 7 22:06:00 2001 From: cancellus@knology.net (Edwin Chan) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 22:06:00 -0000 Subject: installation script problem Message-ID: <3BEA2099.7050907@knology.net> Hi, I was trying to install cygwin/xfree86, but when I tried to run the install script, ./Xinstall.sh, I got this error bash: ./Xinstall.sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory so now what should I do? (I just download the lastest Cygwin, and Xfree86 tgz files) Thanks, Edwin Chan From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Nov 8 04:31:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 04:31:00 -0000 Subject: installation script problem Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683170@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Edwin Chan [ mailto:cancellus@knology.net ] > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:05 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: installation script problem > > > Hi, > > I was trying to install cygwin/xfree86, but when I tried to run the > install script, > ./Xinstall.sh, I got this error > > bash: ./Xinstall.sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory > > so now what should I do? > (I just download the lastest Cygwin, and Xfree86 tgz files) > > Thanks, > > Edwin Chan > Do you have Xinstall.sh? Did you install Cygwin on a binary mounted or text mounted Cygwin disk? This discussed in User's Guide at http://xfree86.cygwin.com . If you do not follow exact instructions, you will get errors. Suhaib From ddhuyvet@san.rr.com Thu Nov 8 06:49:00 2001 From: ddhuyvet@san.rr.com (David Dhuyvetter) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 06:49:00 -0000 Subject: IceWM 1.0.9-2 and XTrek 6,1 binaries available Message-ID: <000501c16864$e3037f00$687ba8c0@daviddnote> There are Cygwin/XFree86 binaries for IceWM 1.0.9-2 and XTrek6.1 at = http://home.san.rr.com/dhuyvetter/david/CygwinXFree86.html Enjoy! 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Haase) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 11:09:00 -0000 Subject: fatal IO error 104 Message-ID: <17324763738.20011108200305@familiehaase.de> Hallo Cygwinners, I cannot start all over. I installed Xfree at home on my server and after a short look in startxwin.bat and a doubleclick I was up and running. Now, at my workstation, (both are NT 4 SP6a, one Server, one WS), I cannot start. I think I have nearly the same components installed, I don't see differences, the devil knows what is the reason. All my mounts are binmode, I used the Xinstall.sh script to install. In a bash shell: $ ./startxwin.sh Agent pid 272 ddxProcessArgument () ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 5 i: 1 winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits per pixel winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1024 h 768 r 1024 l 0 b 768 t 0 XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. In a cmd shell: $ startxwin.bat startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows NT/2000 ddxProcessArgument () ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 5 i: 1 winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using Windows display depth of 24 bits per pixel winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1024 h 768 r 1024 l 0 b 768 t 0 0 [main] XWin 383 handle_exceptions: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION 2496 [main] XWin 383 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to XWin.exe.stackdump XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0" XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. Gerrit -- convey Information Systems GmbH http://www.convey.de/ Vitalisstra????e 326-328 Gerrit P. Haase D-50933 K????ln gerrit.haase@convey.de Fon: ++49 221 6903922 From briangenisio@yahoo.com Thu Nov 8 14:18:00 2001 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 14:18:00 -0000 Subject: XIO error... anyone seen it? [found and fixed] References: <20011105223835.B9756@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011108221749.79286.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> Cyg/XF86 friends, Ok... after plenty of debugging, and goofing with the problem, in order to re-create it, I finally found what the problem is, AND the fix. As you recall, I had 2 cygwin-X applications, and both were heavy graphic hogs. One primarily uses XPutImage, and the other uses XpmCreate* functions. Both were randomly dying with a fatal error of 105, which indicates a full buffer. These calls to XPutImage were failing when they were putting HUGE images to the X server. (1280x1024 5000+ colors at 32 bits/color) Well, when I traced back the problem, I found that in the XpmCreate calls, it was still dying in the XPutImage calls within the XpmCreate.... I found the common culprit between the two applications. Ok... time to debug the X11 library :) XPutImage breaks the images up recursively, to handle the maximum request length of the Display in PutSubImage (lib/X11/PutImage.c). It then sends the data out through the Send*image->Data->_XSend (lib/X11/XlibInt.c). Within the _XSend command, it does a bunch of buffer manipulation, and finally calls _X11TransWritev to write it out to the socket. If this call fails, it checks the macro ETEST(), which is really (errno == EAGAIN || errno == EWOULDBLOCK). If either of these are true, we want to try again, so _XSend calls _XWaitForWritable. _XWaitForWritable is a function that waits for the socket to be writeable, so it can successfully call _X11TransWritev the next time through the while loop. So, if I change the definition of ETEST() to (errno == EAGAIN || errno == EWOULDBLOCK || errno == ENOBUFS), my problem is fixed!!! Why? Because there is no buffer space available on the socket, after 5000+ AllocColor requests. It needs to be cleaned out. _XWaitForWritable waits for this to happen, and writing out happily works the next time around. Should we add the folowing line to XlibInt.c? : #ifdef __CYGWIN__ #define ETEST() (errno == EAGAIN || errno == EWOULDBLOCK || errno == ENOBUFS) Or, is there a better solution? What do you (Cyg/XF86 developers) think? Brian --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 02:23:38PM -0800, Brian Genisio wrote: > > Yes, I am running cygwin1.dll v 1.3.3. > > > > I have been trying to debug the problem, and of course, running in a > debugger > > makes it much harder to find where the problem is. I think the fact that > the > > app runs slower in a debugger makes this buffer overrun problem no longer > > happen. (Sucks for finding the problem, eh?) > > > > In my application where I am having the most troubles, the > > XpmCreatePixmapFromXpmImage function is where it crashes out. This > function is > > called many times in a row. I have tried a few things, with no improvement > : > > > > 1. Call XFlush between calls > > 2. Call XSync between calls > > 3. Add a delay between calls. > > > > This tells me that the problem is probably being caused by the > > XpmCreatePixmapFromXpmImage itself. Some Pixmaps being loaded are as large > as > > 2.6 MB (1280x960 in size) I hooked my app up to xmond, and found that the > > following protocol calls were being made (for 59 XPM calls): > > > > 1 CreateWindow > > 4 InternAtom > > 1 GetProperty > > 79 CreatePixmap > > 80 CreateGC > > 79 FreeGC > > 154 PutImage > > 23210 AllocColor > > 2 QueryExtension > > > > So, we see that a LOT of colors are being allocated quickly, and a lot of > > images are being put up to the X server in PutImage. > > > > Unfortunately, I am unable to catch it in the act (with the debugger or > Xmon), > > so I cant tell you exactly where the problem is :( > > > > Keep in mind, this is the Application crashing, not the X server. > > > Sure. I understand it's the application, and the error is coming back > from the cygwin kernel. 1.3.4 is out, and maybe worth a try at least. > > You could set up some breakpoints for _XDefaultIOError (which is where > the XIO: error comes from) and do a backtrace in gdb to find out exactly > where things are coming from. This way the program should run at > fullspeed. > > What's the platform and how much memory have you got ? what about the > size of your paging file too ? what's the output of 'uname -a' ? > > Alan. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Thu Nov 8 15:10:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 15:10:00 -0000 Subject: XIO error... anyone seen it? [found and fixed] References: <20011105223835.B9756@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011108221749.79286.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20011108231027.G2984@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 02:17:49PM -0800, Brian Genisio wrote: > Cyg/XF86 friends, > > Ok... after plenty of debugging, and goofing with the problem, in order to > re-create it, I finally found what the problem is, AND the fix. > > As you recall, I had 2 cygwin-X applications, and both were heavy graphic > hogs. One primarily uses XPutImage, and the other uses XpmCreate* functions. > Both were randomly dying with a fatal error of 105, which indicates a full > buffer. These calls to XPutImage were failing when they were putting HUGE > images to the X server. (1280x1024 5000+ colors at 32 bits/color) > > Well, when I traced back the problem, I found that in the XpmCreate calls, it > was still dying in the XPutImage calls within the XpmCreate.... I found the > common culprit between the two applications. > > Ok... time to debug the X11 library :) > > XPutImage breaks the images up recursively, to handle the maximum request > length of the Display in PutSubImage (lib/X11/PutImage.c). It then sends the > data out through the Send*image->Data->_XSend (lib/X11/XlibInt.c). > > Within the _XSend command, it does a bunch of buffer manipulation, and finally > calls _X11TransWritev to write it out to the socket. If this call fails, it > checks the macro ETEST(), which is really (errno == EAGAIN || errno == > EWOULDBLOCK). If either of these are true, we want to try again, so _XSend > calls _XWaitForWritable. > > _XWaitForWritable is a function that waits for the socket to be writeable, so > it can successfully call _X11TransWritev the next time through the while loop. > So, if I change the definition of ETEST() to (errno == EAGAIN || errno == > EWOULDBLOCK || errno == ENOBUFS), my problem is fixed!!! > > Why? Because there is no buffer space available on the socket, after 5000+ > AllocColor requests. It needs to be cleaned out. _XWaitForWritable waits for > this to happen, and writing out happily works the next time around. > > Should we add the folowing line to XlibInt.c? : > #ifdef __CYGWIN__ > #define ETEST() (errno == EAGAIN || errno == EWOULDBLOCK || errno == ENOBUFS) > > Or, is there a better solution? What do you (Cyg/XF86 developers) think? Seems like a reasonable assessment Brian. We could do this, although I'd like to understand why there isn't any buffer space on the socket. Is there a test application you can email to me for testing..? Alan. From cgf@redhat.com Thu Nov 8 15:43:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 15:43:00 -0000 Subject: XIO error... anyone seen it? [found and fixed] References: <20011105223835.B9756@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011108221749.79286.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> <20011108231027.G2984@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011108184350.F5685@redhat.com> On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 11:10:28PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: >On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 02:17:49PM -0800, Brian Genisio wrote: >> Should we add the folowing line to XlibInt.c? : >> #ifdef __CYGWIN__ >> #define ETEST() (errno == EAGAIN || errno == EWOULDBLOCK || errno == ENOBUFS) >> >> Or, is there a better solution? What do you (Cyg/XF86 developers) think? > >Seems like a reasonable assessment Brian. We could do this, although I'd >like to understand why there isn't any buffer space on the socket. > >Is there a test application you can email to me for testing..? I wonder if cygwin should just be mapping WSAENOBUFS to EAGAIN. It seems like we somehow invented a new errno here. Regardless, where errno tests are concerned, I think it makes sense to do something like this: #ifdef ENOBUFS /* ENOBUFS is apparently a Cygwin-specific errno */ #define ETEST() (errno == EAGAIN || errno == EWOULDBLOCK || errno == ENOBUFS) #endif That means that you are relying on the existence of the errno rather than the fact that it is cygwin. So, if we decide to deprecate ENOBUFS sometime in the future, the code will still compile correctly. Nice debugging effort, by the way. cgf From roland@steeltorch.com Thu Nov 8 16:05:00 2001 From: roland@steeltorch.com (Roland Glenn McIntosh) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 16:05:00 -0000 Subject: web browsers available? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20011108190255.0683c2e0@lnxmain> Hey all: I would like to know what the general consensus on the "best" web browser which compiles under cygwin/xfree is. I am currently using dillo ( http://dillo.sourceforge.net ) which compiles OOTB after compiling gtk+ and glib, but it is alpha software and lacks some functionality. Any suggestions? -Roland. From march@indirect.com Thu Nov 8 16:09:00 2001 From: march@indirect.com (Michael F. March) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 16:09:00 -0000 Subject: web browsers available? References: <5.1.0.14.2.20011108190255.0683c2e0@lnxmain> Message-ID: <039701c168b2$bba9a850$0d76aec7@D4LHBR01> I have asked this before... has anyone tried Mozilla? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland Glenn McIntosh" To: Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:05 PM Subject: web browsers available? > Hey all: > I would like to know what the general consensus on the "best" web browser which compiles under cygwin/xfree is. I am currently using dillo ( http://dillo.sourceforge.net ) which compiles OOTB after compiling gtk+ and glib, but it is alpha software and lacks some functionality. > > Any suggestions? > > -Roland. From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Thu Nov 8 16:10:00 2001 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 16:10:00 -0000 Subject: XIO error... anyone seen it? [found and fixed] References: <20011105223835.B9756@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011108221749.79286.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> <20011108231027.G2984@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011108184350.F5685@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20011109011025.D31424@cygbert.vinschen.de> On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 06:43:50PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 11:10:28PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: > >On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 02:17:49PM -0800, Brian Genisio wrote: > >> Should we add the folowing line to XlibInt.c? : > >> #ifdef __CYGWIN__ > >> #define ETEST() (errno == EAGAIN || errno == EWOULDBLOCK || errno == ENOBUFS) > >> > >> Or, is there a better solution? What do you (Cyg/XF86 developers) think? > > > >Seems like a reasonable assessment Brian. We could do this, although I'd > >like to understand why there isn't any buffer space on the socket. > > > >Is there a test application you can email to me for testing..? > > I wonder if cygwin should just be mapping WSAENOBUFS to EAGAIN. It seems like > we somehow invented a new errno here. No. ENOBUFS is a used and documented error code on Linux and SUSv2. E.g. `man 2 send' contains: ENOBUFS The output queue for a network interface was full. This generally indicates that the interface has stopped sending, but may be caused by transient congestion. (This cannot occur in Linux, packets are just silently dropped when a device queue over???? flows.) Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developer mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com Red Hat, Inc. From huntharo@msu.edu Thu Nov 8 18:28:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 18:28:00 -0000 Subject: (patch seq: 5008) Cygwin/XFree86 References: Message-ID: Alan, > On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 08:56:00AM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote: > > Implement a few more fixes so that the server doesn't > FatalError on startup. > > It makes a pixmap that looks something like the cursor, but instead of > > blitting the cursor to the center of the screen it draws a white circle. > > Strange... > > > Harold - it's drawing a white circle because the cursor needs flipping. > > Instead of getting this... > > \/ > /\ > > your getting this. > > /\ > \/ > > Basically, the two halves are byte ordered wrongly. > Would it be plausible that the scanline order could be wrong? I > couldn't remember if winnativegdi.c/winCreateDIBNativeGDI () > needed to set pbmih->biHeight to -iHeight or iHeight. I twiddled > with it awhile ago and settled on setting it to -iHeight. That > may not be correct. I tried that really quick, but it didn't fix it. Have you run the server with -engine 16? It draws what appears to be the cursor perfectly. But, rather than transferring the cursor to the middle of the screen it instead does a set of line fills (through winFillSpans with FillStyle Solid) that draws the circle. I'm wondering if it is simply never getting the instructions to draw the cursor... Again, I really can't look into it. I've got three tests tomorrow, Saturday, and Monday... :( Harold From cgf@redhat.com Thu Nov 8 18:45:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 18:45:00 -0000 Subject: XIO error... anyone seen it? [found and fixed] References: <20011105223835.B9756@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011108221749.79286.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> <20011108231027.G2984@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011108184350.F5685@redhat.com> <20011109011025.D31424@cygbert.vinschen.de> Message-ID: <20011108214500.A21233@redhat.com> On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 01:10:25AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 06:43:50PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 11:10:28PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: >> >On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 02:17:49PM -0800, Brian Genisio wrote: >> >> Should we add the folowing line to XlibInt.c? : >> >> #ifdef __CYGWIN__ >> >> #define ETEST() (errno == EAGAIN || errno == EWOULDBLOCK || errno == ENOBUFS) >> >> >> >> Or, is there a better solution? What do you (Cyg/XF86 developers) think? >> > >> >Seems like a reasonable assessment Brian. We could do this, although I'd >> >like to understand why there isn't any buffer space on the socket. >> > >> >Is there a test application you can email to me for testing..? >> >> I wonder if cygwin should just be mapping WSAENOBUFS to EAGAIN. It seems like >> we somehow invented a new errno here. > >No. ENOBUFS is a used and documented error code on Linux and SUSv2. >E.g. `man 2 send' contains: > > ENOBUFS > The output queue for a network interface was full. > This generally indicates that the interface has > stopped sending, but may be caused by transient > congestion. (This cannot occur in Linux, packets > are just silently dropped when a device queue over? > flows.) Oh, yes, right. I forgot that I can't just look in /usr/include/sys/errno.h on linux if I want to find a define. I think I need to write a "headergrep" utility. I know that it would be really useful for searching for this kind of thing. cgf From brencameron@yahoo.com Thu Nov 8 18:51:00 2001 From: brencameron@yahoo.com (tom gellhaus) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 18:51:00 -0000 Subject: Web browsers available? Message-ID: <20011109025104.57787.qmail@web13908.mail.yahoo.com> I am using cygwin at home on a Windows 98 machine. I find that dillo crashes too frequently to use every day, and I currently don't have the time to help stabilize it. There are 2 text browsers that are very good, in addition to the one (lynx) that comes with cygwin. Links - home page at: http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikulas/links/ w3m - home page (in English) at: http://ei5nazha.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/~aito/w3m/eng/ As far as other graphical browsers, I haven't tested any but DaveCentral has a good list of some to check on. Have you tried Arena ? http://www.yggdrasil.com/Products/Arena/ Thomas Gellhaus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials and opportunity to become financially independent. IT IS UP TO YOU NOW ! ======================= MORE TESTIMONIALS =========================== "My name is Mitchell. My wife, Jody and I live in Chicago. I am an accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and I make pretty good money. When I received this program I grumbled to Jody about receiving "junk mail". I made fun of the whole thing,spouting my knowledgeof the population and percentages involved. I "knew" it wouldn't work. Jody totally ignored my supposed intelligence and few days later she jumped in with both feet. I made merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old "I told you so" on her when the thing didn't work. Well, the laugh was on me! Within 3 weeks she had received 50 responses. Within the next 45 days she had received total $ 147,200.00 ...all cash! I was shocked. I have joined Jody in her "hobby". - Mitchell Wolf M.D., Chicago, Illinois --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my mind to participate in this plan. But conservative that I am, I decided that the initial investment was so little that there was just no way that I wouldn't get enough orders to at least get my money back". "I was surprised when I found my medium size post office box crammed with orders. I made $319,210.00 in the first 12 weeks. The nice thing about this deal is that it does not matter where people live. There simply isn't a better investment with a faster return and so big." - Dan Sondstrom, Alberta,Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- "I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later I wondered if I should have given it a try. Of course, I had no idea who to contact to get another copy, so I had to wait until I was e-mailed again by someone else... 11 months passed then it luckily came again... I did not delete this one! I made more than $490,000 on my first try and all the money came within 22 weeks." - Susan De Suza, New York, N.Y. --------------------------------------------------------------------- "It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money with little cost to you. I followed the simple instructions carefully and within 10 days the money started to come in. My first month I made $20,560.00 and by the end of third month my total cash count was $362,840.00. Life is beautiful, Thanx to internet." - Fred Dellaca, Westport, New Zealand ===================================================================== >>> ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON 'YOUR' ROAD TO FINANCIAL FREEDOM ! ============================== THE END ============================== If you have any questions of the legality of this program, contact the Office of Associate Director for Marketing Practices, Federal Trade Commission, Bureau of Consumer Protection, Washington, D.C. *** This message is in compliance with U.S. Federal requirements for commercial e-mail proposed in : Bill S.630 CAN SPAM Act of 2001 Section 5, Paragraph (a), (3), and Section 5, Paragraph (5)(c) passed by the 107th>U.S. Senate and cannot be considered SPAM since it includes both a physical mailing address and remove mechanism. *** This is a one time mailing. => If you would like to be removed from all of our mailing databases reply to: replysender@lycos.com Please put REMOVE in the subject line. This is an Automatic remove system and you will never receive mail from our server again. We update daily. We use mail list provided by Internet Marketing Services. If our mailing found you and offended you in any way please accept our apologies. From therealprogram@hotmail.com Thu Nov 8 20:56:00 2001 From: therealprogram@hotmail.com (Sender) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 20:56:00 -0000 Subject: this is amazing Message-ID: <866ea21eefd5a03ab009e87e5db501f6@NO-ID-FOUND.mhonarc.org> AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TV: Making over Half Million Dollars every 4 to 5 Months from your Home for an investment of only $25 U.S. Dollars expense one time. THANK'S TO THE COMPUTER AGE AND THE INTERNET! ================================================================== | This program is for real. Don't get scammed by other programs. | This is the only Program that REALLY works. And it works no | matter which country you live in (read the testimonials at the | end of this message). Read on and you will be convinced. | It will only take 2 minutes. | Don't delete this message until you take time to think about it. ================================================================== BE A MILLIONAIRE LIKE OTHERS WITHIN A YEAR!!! Before you say ''Bull'', please read the following. This is the letter you have been hearing about on the news lately. Due to the popularity of this letter on the Internet, a national weekly news program recently devoted an entire show to the investigation of this program described below, to see if it really can make people money. The show also investigated whether or not the program was legal. Their findings proved once and for all that there are "absolutely NO Laws prohibiting the participation in the program and if people can follow the simple instructions, they are bound to make some mega bucks with only $25 out of pocket cost". >> DUE TO THE RECENT INCREASE OF POPULARITY & RESPECT THIS PROGRAM HAS ATTAINED, IT IS CURRENTLY WORKING BETTER THAN EVER. This is what one had to say: "Thanks to this profitable opportunity. I was approached many times before but each time I passed on it. I am so glad I finally joined just to see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and money required. To my astonishment, I received total $610,470.00 in 21 weeks, with money still coming in." - Pam Hedland, Fort Lee, New Jersey. ===================================================================== Here is another testimonial: "This program has been around for a long time but I never believed in it. But one day when I received this again in the mail I decided to gamble my $25 on it. I followed the simple instructions and 3 weeks later the money started to come in. First month I only made $240.00 but the next 2 months after that I made a total of $290,000.00. So far, in the past 8 months by re- entering the program, I have made over $710,000.00 and I am playing it again. The key to success in this program is to follow the simple steps and NOT change anything." >> More testimonials later ============ PRINT THIS NOW FOR YOUR FUTURE REFERENCE =============== $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ If you would like to make at least $500,000 every 4 to 5 months easily And comfortably, please read the following... ...THEN READ IT AGAIN and AGAIN!!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ FOLLOW THE SIMPLE INSTRUCTION BELOW AND YOUR FINANCIAL DREAMS WILL COME TRUE, GUARANTEED! >> INSTRUCTIONS: ========== Order all 5 reports shown on the list below ============== For each report, send $5 CASH, THE NAME & NUMBER OF THE REPORT YOU ARE ORDERING and YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS to the person whose name appears ON THAT LIST next to the report. < MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE TOP LEFT CORNER in case of any mail problems. > ===> When you place your order, make sure you order each of the 5 reports. You will need all 5 reports so that you can save them on your computer and resell them. =>> YOUR TOTAL COST $5 X 5=$25.00. Within a few days you will receive, vie e-mail, each of the 5 reports from these 5 different individuals. Save them on your computer so they will be accessible for you to send to the 1,000's of people who will order them from you. Also make a floppy of these reports and keep it on your desk in case something happen to your computer. IMPORTANT - DO NOT alter the names of the people who are listed next to each report, or their sequence on the list, in any way other than what is instructed below in step "1 through 6" or you will lose out on majority of your profits. Once you understand the way this works, you will also see how it does not work if you change it. Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter, it will NOT work !!! People have tried to put their friends/relatives names on all five thinking they could get all the money. But it does not work this way. Believe us, we all have tried to be greedy and then nothing happened. So Do Not try to change anything other than what is instructed. Because if you do, it will not work for you. >> Remember, honesty reaps the reward!!! 1.. After you have ordered all 5 reports, take this advertisement and REMOVE the name & address of the person in REPORT # 5. This person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting their fortune. 2.. Move the name & address in REPORT # 4 down TO REPORT # 5. 3.. Move the name & address in REPORT # 3 down TO REPORT # 4. 4.. Move the name & address in REPORT # 2 down TO REPORT # 3. 5.. Move the name & address in REPORT # 1 down TO REPORT # 2 6.. Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT # 1 Position. PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & address ACCURATELY! ===================================================================== **** Take this entire letter, with the modified list of names, and save it on your computer. >> DO NOT MAKE ANY OTHER CHANGES. Save this on a disk as well just in case you lose any data. To assist you with marketing your business on the internet, the 5 reports you purchase will provide you with invaluable marketing information which includes how to send bulk e-mails legally, where to find thousands of free classified ads and much more. There are 2 Primary methods to get this venture going: >> METHOD # 1 : BY SENDING BULK E-MAIL LEGALLY ===================================================================== => Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we will assume You and those involved send out only 5,000 e-mails each. Let's also assume that the mailing receive only a 0.2% response (the response could be much better but lets just say it is only 0.2%. Also many people will send out hundreds of thousands e-mails instead of only 5,000 each). Continuing with this example, you send out only 5,000 e-mails. => With a 0.2% response, that is only 10 orders for report # 1. Those 10 people responded by sending out 5,000 e-mail each for a total of 50,000. Out of those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2% responded with orders. That's=100 people responded and ordered Report # 2. => Those 100 people mail out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 500,000 e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 1000 orders for Report # 3. => Those 1000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 5 million e-mails sent out. The 0.2% response to that is 10,000 orders for Report # 4. => Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 50,000,000 (50 million) e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 100,000 orders for Report # 5. => THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH = $500,000.00 (half million). =>> Your total income in this example is: 1.. $50 + 2.. $500 + 3..$5,000 + 4.. $50,000 + 5.. $500,000 ==> Grand Total=$555,550.00 NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. GET A PENCIL & PAPER AND FIGUREOUT THE WORST POSSIBLE RESPONSES AND NO MATTER HOW YOU CALCULATE IT, YOU WILL STILL MAKE A LOT OF MONEY ! --------------------------------------------------------------------- REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10 PEOPLE ORDERING OUT OF 5,000 YOU MAILED TO. Dare to think for a moment what would happen if everyone or half or even one 4th of those people mailed 100,000e-mails each or more? There are over 150 million people on the Internet worldwide and counting. Believe me, many people will do just that, and more! >> METHOD # 2 : BY PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET ===================================================================== Advertising on the net is very inexpensive and there are hundreds of FREE places to advertise. Placing a lot of free ads on the Internet will easily get a larger response. We strongly suggest you start with Method # 1 and add METHOD # 2 as you go along. For every $5 you receive, all you must do is e-mail them the Report they ordered. That's it. Always provide same day service on all orders. This will guarantee that the e-mail they send out, with your name and address on it, will be prompt because they can not advertise until they receive the report. ====================== AVAILABLE REPORTS ============================ ORDER EACH REPORT BY ITS NUMBER & NAME ONLY. << NOTES: Always send $5 cash (U.S. CURRENCY) for each Report. >> Checks NOT accepted. Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping it in at least 2 sheets of paper. ==> On one of those sheets of paper, Write the NUMBER & the NAME of the Report you are ordering, YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS and your name and postal address. PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR THESE REPORTS NOW : ===================================================================== REPORT# 1: The Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on the Net Order Report #1 from: Mr B. P.O. Box 241 Boucherville, Quebec, Canada J4B 5J6 _____________________________________________________________________ REPORT # 2: The Insider's Guide to Sending Bulk e-mail on the Net Order Report # 2 from: David Keith #616, 1830 E Parks Hwy, Ste A-113 Wasilla, AK 99654-7377 USA _____________________________________________________________________ REPORT # 3: Secret to Multilevel Marketing on the Net Order Report # 3 from : Ronnie Filion Jr. 231 Evangeline Sept-Iles, Quebec, Canada G4R 2N1 _____________________________________________________________________ REPORT # 4: How to Become a Millionaire Utilizing MLM & the Net Order Report # 4 from: G. Hostetler 205 Freda Ln. Lowell, MA 01854 USA _____________________________________________________________________ REPORT #5: How to Send Out 0ne Million e-mails for Free Order Report # 5 from: P. Condinho 2549 Mason Heights Mississauga, Ontario L5B 2S3, Canada ===================================================================== $$$$$$$$$ YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES $$$$$$$$$$$ Follow these guidelines to guarantee your success: == If you do not receive at least 10 orders for Report #1 within 2 weeks, continue sending e-mails until you do. == After you have received 10 orders, 2 to 3 weeks after that you should receive 100 orders or more for REPORT # 2. If you did not, continue advertising or sending e-mails until you do. == Once you have received 100 or more orders for Report # 2, YOU CAN RELAX, because the system is already working for you, and the cash will continue to roll in ! THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: Every time your name is moved down on the list, you are placed in front of a different report. You can KEEP TRACK of your PROGRESS by watching which report people are ordering from you. IF YOU WANT TO GENERATE MORE INCOME SEND ANOTHER BATCH OF E-MAILS AND START THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN. There is NO LIMIT to the income you can generate from this business !!! ===================================================================== FOLLOWING IS A NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM: You have just received information that can give you financial freedom for the rest of your life, with NO RISK and JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT. You can make more money in the next few weeks and months than you have ever imagined. Follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do Not change it in any way. It works exceedingly well as it is now. Remember to e-mail a copy of this exciting report after you have put your name and address in Report #1 and moved others to #2...#5 as instructed above. One of the people you send this to may send out 100,000 or more e-mails and your name will be on every one of them. Remember though, the more you send out the more potential customers you will reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials and opportunity to become financially independent. IT IS UP TO YOU NOW ! ======================= MORE TESTIMONIALS =========================== "My name is Mitchell. My wife, Jody and I live in Chicago. I am an accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and I make pretty good money. When I received this program I grumbled to Jody about receiving "junk mail". I made fun of the whole thing,spouting my knowledgeof the population and percentages involved. I "knew" it wouldn't work. Jody totally ignored my supposed intelligence and few days later she jumped in with both feet. I made merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old "I told you so" on her when the thing didn't work. Well, the laugh was on me! Within 3 weeks she had received 50 responses. Within the next 45 days she had received total $ 147,200.00 ...all cash! I was shocked. I have joined Jody in her "hobby". - Mitchell Wolf M.D., Chicago, Illinois --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my mind to participate in this plan. But conservative that I am, I decided that the initial investment was so little that there was just no way that I wouldn't get enough orders to at least get my money back". "I was surprised when I found my medium size post office box crammed with orders. I made $319,210.00 in the first 12 weeks. The nice thing about this deal is that it does not matter where people live. There simply isn't a better investment with a faster return and so big." - Dan Sondstrom, Alberta,Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- "I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later I wondered if I should have given it a try. Of course, I had no idea who to contact to get another copy, so I had to wait until I was e-mailed again by someone else... 11 months passed then it luckily came again... I did not delete this one! I made more than $490,000 on my first try and all the money came within 22 weeks." - Susan De Suza, New York, N.Y. --------------------------------------------------------------------- "It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money with little cost to you. I followed the simple instructions carefully and within 10 days the money started to come in. My first month I made $20,560.00 and by the end of third month my total cash count was $362,840.00. Life is beautiful, Thanx to internet." - Fred Dellaca, Westport, New Zealand ===================================================================== >>> ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON 'YOUR' ROAD TO FINANCIAL FREEDOM ! ============================== THE END ============================== If you have any questions of the legality of this program, contact the Office of Associate Director for Marketing Practices, Federal Trade Commission, Bureau of Consumer Protection, Washington, D.C. *** This message is in compliance with U.S. Federal requirements for commercial e-mail proposed in : Bill S.630 CAN SPAM Act of 2001 Section 5, Paragraph (a), (3), and Section 5, Paragraph (5)(c) passed by the 107th>U.S. Senate and cannot be considered SPAM since it includes both a physical mailing address and remove mechanism. *** This is a one time mailing. => If you would like to be removed from all of our mailing databases reply to: replysender@lycos.com Please put REMOVE in the subject line. This is an Automatic remove system and you will never receive mail from our server again. We update daily. We use mail list provided by Internet Marketing Services. If our mailing found you and offended you in any way please accept our apologies. From tilps@hotmail.com Thu Nov 8 22:06:00 2001 From: tilps@hotmail.com (Gareth Pearce) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 22:06:00 -0000 Subject: web browsers available? Message-ID: >I have asked this before... has anyone tried >Mozilla? yes - and getting it to work is not fun ... thats if its possible ... otherwise getting it to work is just impossible ... I have only tried for a few hours on a couple of occasions... but it keeps deciding to try and use the visual c++ cl.exe compiler... even after i rename it ... remove it from my path... - and this is using the 'unix' client.mk - not the windows client.mak - very strange... - maybe I will make more progress this weekend ... if I feel like having another go so soon after the last failure... thats after I recompiled cygwin to not have ( ) in its uname -r (probably better ways to do this - but it was simple for me) and having installed gtk+ glib ... libIDL ... hmmm the rest of the things you need ... generally I think mozilla is pushing things abit far for right now ... but I shall try every few weeks or so ... until i manage to get it to work I guess... > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Roland Glenn McIntosh" >To: >Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:05 PM >Subject: web browsers available? > > > > Hey all: > > I would like to know what the general consensus on the "best" web >browser >which compiles under cygwin/xfree is. I am currently using dillo >( http://dillo.sourceforge.net ) which compiles OOTB after compiling gtk+ and >glib, but it is alpha software and lacks some functionality. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > -Roland. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Fri Nov 9 01:21:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 01:21:00 -0000 Subject: XIO error... anyone seen it? [found and fixed] References: <20011105223835.B9756@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011108221749.79286.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> <20011108231027.G2984@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011108184350.F5685@redhat.com> <20011109011025.D31424@cygbert.vinschen.de> Message-ID: <20011109092142.A2986@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 01:10:25AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 06:43:50PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 11:10:28PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: > > >On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 02:17:49PM -0800, Brian Genisio wrote: > > >> Should we add the folowing line to XlibInt.c? : > > >> #ifdef __CYGWIN__ > > >> #define ETEST() (errno == EAGAIN || errno == EWOULDBLOCK || errno == ENOBUFS) > > >> > > >> Or, is there a better solution? What do you (Cyg/XF86 developers) think? > > > > > >Seems like a reasonable assessment Brian. We could do this, although I'd > > >like to understand why there isn't any buffer space on the socket. > > > > > >Is there a test application you can email to me for testing..? > > > > I wonder if cygwin should just be mapping WSAENOBUFS to EAGAIN. It seems like > > we somehow invented a new errno here. > > No. ENOBUFS is a used and documented error code on Linux and SUSv2. > E.g. `man 2 send' contains: > > ENOBUFS > The output queue for a network interface was full. > This generally indicates that the interface has > stopped sending, but may be caused by transient > congestion. (This cannot occur in Linux, packets > are just silently dropped when a device queue over > flows.) > Thanks Corinna. Brian - I'll commit this to the CVS. Thanks Brian. Alan. From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Fri Nov 9 03:38:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 03:38:00 -0000 Subject: web browsers available? References: <039701c168b2$bba9a850$0d76aec7@D4LHBR01> Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Michael F. March wrote: > > I would like to know what the general consensus on the "best" web browser > > which compiles under cygwin/xfree is. I am currently using dillo > I have asked this before... has anyone tried Mozilla? Correct me if I'm wrong. You have a windows machine and want to run X. Why the hell you wan't a webbrowser which runs on the windows box and draws via X. Just use Mozilla, Netscape, IE or what ever you want on windows or Mozilla, Netscape, dillo, ... remote from Linux. There is no need to slow down the browser by using another 2 layers for adding network transparency. bye ago BTW: I tried mozilla, but it was running on linux and only rendered via X11. -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From forummm_@rbcmail.ru Fri Nov 9 03:48:00 2001 From: forummm_@rbcmail.ru (=?windows-1251?Q?=CC=E5=E6=E4=F3=ED=E0=F0=EE=E4=ED=FB=E9_=D4=EE=F0=F3=EC?=) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 03:48:00 -0000 Subject: =?windows-1251?Q?=CF=F0=E8=E3=EB=E0=F8=E5=ED=E8=E5?= Message-ID: <317562001115911413247@rbcmail.ru> ????????????????????????????????????????????????! 20-21 ???????????????????????? 2001 ???????????????? ???? ???????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????? 2-???? ???????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????? 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From briangenisio@yahoo.com Fri Nov 9 05:20:00 2001 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 05:20:00 -0000 Subject: XIO error... anyone seen it? [found and fixed] References: <20011109092142.A2986@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011109132053.1274.qmail@web20801.mail.yahoo.com> --- Alan Hourihane wrote: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 01:10:25AM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 06:43:50PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 11:10:28PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > >On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 02:17:49PM -0800, Brian Genisio wrote: > > > >> Should we add the folowing line to XlibInt.c? : > > > >> #ifdef __CYGWIN__ > > > >> #define ETEST() (errno == EAGAIN || errno == EWOULDBLOCK || errno == > ENOBUFS) > > > >> > > > >> Or, is there a better solution? What do you (Cyg/XF86 developers) > think? > > > > > > > >Seems like a reasonable assessment Brian. We could do this, although I'd > > > >like to understand why there isn't any buffer space on the socket. > > > > > > > >Is there a test application you can email to me for testing..? > > > > > > I wonder if cygwin should just be mapping WSAENOBUFS to EAGAIN. It seems > like > > > we somehow invented a new errno here. > > > > No. ENOBUFS is a used and documented error code on Linux and SUSv2. > > E.g. `man 2 send' contains: > > > > ENOBUFS > > The output queue for a network interface was full. > > This generally indicates that the interface has > > stopped sending, but may be caused by transient > > congestion. (This cannot occur in Linux, packets > > are just silently dropped when a device queue over > > flows.) > > > Thanks Corinna. Brian - I'll commit this to the CVS. Thanks Brian. > > Alan. Alan, Good :) I am glad my hard work will show up in CVS. Would you still like to see a test application that shows the bug? I can do this, but it wont be until after the weekend. Essentially, it would be an app that fills a big buffer with a pattern with lots of colors, and loops forever with XPutImage. (The colors probably dont matter as much as the size of the image). The problem with this bug, which is why it took me so much time, is that it doesnt happen very often at all, and it happens even less in the debugger. (I had to instrument the X11 lib with printouts, reboot my computer, and run the app to track it down. I dont know why rebooting was necessary, but it seemed to greatly increase the likelyhood of the bug occuring). I would assume that it would happen more in slower computers, than faster computers. I would also assume, that since it is a timing related bug, some machines, running different flavors of Windoze may never show the bug at all. Once again, I will be happy to write up a quick app that shows the bug if you still desire it. Thanks!!! Brian __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Fri Nov 9 06:39:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 06:39:00 -0000 Subject: XIO error... anyone seen it? [found and fixed] References: <20011109092142.A2986@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <20011109132053.1274.qmail@web20801.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20011109143902.B3521@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 05:20:53AM -0800, Brian Genisio wrote: > Good :) I am glad my hard work will show up in CVS. Would you still like to > see a test application that shows the bug? I can do this, but it wont be until > after the weekend. Essentially, it would be an app that fills a big buffer > with a pattern with lots of colors, and loops forever with XPutImage. (The > colors probably dont matter as much as the size of the image). > That won't be necessary now. I've already committed the fix too. Alan. From jdrash@eesus.jnj.com Fri Nov 9 08:43:00 2001 From: jdrash@eesus.jnj.com (Jim Drash) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 08:43:00 -0000 Subject: new binaries avail for cygwin 1.3.4? Message-ID: <20011109113432.A1376@JDRASH-LS> I upgraded to the latest "production" rev of cygwin via the standard setup.exe I tried running a very basic startxwin.bat and got an error as xterm was trying to start. The error was: "xterm: Error 14, errno 9: Bad file number" I assume that since this worked prior to the upgrade, I need newer binaries. running uname -a in a cygwin bash shell gives: "CYGWIN_BT-5.0 JDRASH-LS 1.3.4(0.47/3/2) 2001-11-07 13:36 i686 unknown" Please let me know what you all think. jim drash From greyrl@hotmail.com Fri Nov 9 08:47:00 2001 From: greyrl@hotmail.com (Robert Grey) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 08:47:00 -0000 Subject: WindowMaker 0.70.0 and the -lX11 problem Message-ID: Did anyone ever figure out how to fix the stupid windowmaker -lX11 compile problem? I saw a bunch of people blaming each other for whose fault it was but never a resolution. I tried to install 0.70.0 to no avail and 0.65.1 to no avail. I did the manual compiles to get through a build but after a "make install" I can't find the binary wmaker or the wmaker.inst anywhere outside of the package. Has anyone gotten through a COMPLETE install of either one of these versions on cygwin or should I give up? -Rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From Kevin.Kuphal@motorola.com Fri Nov 9 09:39:00 2001 From: Kevin.Kuphal@motorola.com (Kuphal Kevin-AKK012) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 09:39:00 -0000 Subject: WindowMaker 0.70.0 and the -lX11 problem Message-ID: I got it working, but I don't remember exactly how. Can you post the errors, maybe it will refresh my memory. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Grey [ mailto:greyrl@hotmail.com ] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:47 AM To: cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com Subject: WindowMaker 0.70.0 and the -lX11 problem Did anyone ever figure out how to fix the stupid windowmaker -lX11 compile problem? I saw a bunch of people blaming each other for whose fault it was but never a resolution. I tried to install 0.70.0 to no avail and 0.65.1 to no avail. I did the manual compiles to get through a build but after a "make install" I can't find the binary wmaker or the wmaker.inst anywhere outside of the package. 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Box 48-184 Taipei, Taiwan From huntharo@msu.edu Fri Nov 9 14:04:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 14:04:00 -0000 Subject: FW: RE: WindowMaker 0.70.0 and the -lX11 problem Message-ID: Rob, > Did anyone ever figure out how to fix the stupid windowmaker -lX11 compile > problem? I saw a bunch of people blaming each other for whose fault it was > but never a resolution. I tried to install 0.70.0 to no avail and 0.65.1 to > no avail. I did the manual compiles to get through a build but after a "make > install" I can't find the binary wmaker or the wmaker.inst anywhere outside > of the package. Has anyone gotten through a COMPLETE install of either one > of these versions on cygwin or should I give up? Obviously, you aren't trying hard enough: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/screenshots/cygwin-xfree86-wmaker.png Harold From cgf@redhat.com Sat Nov 10 12:16:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 12:16:00 -0000 Subject: Make this a subscriber only mailing list? Message-ID: <20011110201626.GA2449@redhat.com> I've just changed the cygwin-apps mailing list so that only subscribers to some cygwin mailing list can send email there. Do we want to do the same thing here? It would probably make spam non-existent. cgf From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Nov 10 12:40:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 12:40:00 -0000 Subject: Make this a subscriber only mailing list? Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683186@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Yes, please. I am annoyed with this continuous spam from this mailing list. Thanks Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Faylor [ mailto:cgf@redhat.com ] > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 3:16 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Make this a subscriber only mailing list? > > I've just changed the cygwin-apps mailing list so that only > subscribers > to some cygwin mailing list can send email there. > > Do we want to do the same thing here? It would probably make spam > non-existent. > > cgf From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Sat Nov 10 13:04:00 2001 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:04:00 -0000 Subject: klyx causes xserver crash Message-ID: <00ef01c16a2b$ed9dbc00$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Hi, this week I have compiled klyx for cygwin and recognized, that on running the xserver crashes with the following messages: Fatal server error: Beziers this big not yet supported This error does not depend on the cygwin port of klyx, because this happens too with a started klyx on a suse 7.1 linux workstation, with using the cygwin xfree server as display. My intention to report this is only to say, that there is a problem with a specific app. I'm not able to debug the xfree server. Regards Ralf From cgf@redhat.com Sat Nov 10 15:02:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:02:00 -0000 Subject: missing file References: Message-ID: <20011110230250.GA2718@redhat.com> On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 03:03:06PM -0600, Stephen Popik wrote: >I downloaded the Xfree86 binaries. Unfortunately Xmod.tgz is missing from >all the mirror sites I checked. >Install.sh complains and the install document syas Xmod.tgz is a required >file. > >Where can I find it? Wrong mailing list. Use cygwin-xfree. cgf From spopik@home.com Sat Nov 10 20:33:00 2001 From: spopik@home.com (Stephen Popik) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 20:33:00 -0000 Subject: missing file Message-ID: I downloaded the Xfree86 binaries. Unfortunately Xmod.tgz is missing from all the mirror sites I checked. Install.sh complains and the install document says Xmod.tgz is a required file. Thank you, Steve Popik From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sat Nov 10 21:25:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 21:25:00 -0000 Subject: missing file Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C2683187@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Popik [ mailto:spopik@home.com ] > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:30 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: missing file > > I downloaded the Xfree86 binaries. Unfortunately Xmod.tgz is missing > from > all the mirror sites I checked. > Install.sh complains and the install document says Xmod.tgz is a > required > file. > > Thank you, > Steve Popik Tell me where it says in documents you Xmod.tgz is a required file. Here is the link for User Guide. http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/cygwin-xfree-downloading.html Suhaib From gp@familiehaase.de Sun Nov 11 09:24:00 2001 From: gp@familiehaase.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 09:24:00 -0000 Subject: fatal IO error 104 References: <17324763738.20011108200305@familiehaase.de> Message-ID: <175499792613.20011111182614@familiehaase.de> Hallo Gerrit, Am 2001-11-08 um 20:03 schriebst du: > I cannot start all over. > I installed Xfree at home on my server and after a short > look in startxwin.bat and a doubleclick I was up and running. > Now, at my workstation, (both are NT 4 SP6a, one Server, one WS), > I cannot start. I think I have nearly the same components installed, > I don't see differences, the devil knows what is the reason. I reinstalled everything and after trying I get an error at startup, xterm cannot be started. This is well reported at this list and I found no solution or explanatin to this error. Maybe it will be fixed soon? However, I tried to start a second time and now it works, strange... Also I found a patched version of xterm (together with IceWm) and this works 'better', at least togehter with IceWM. Thanks for reading. Ciao, Gerrit P. Haase mailto:gp@familiehaase.de -- =^..^= From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Nov 11 09:46:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 09:46:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 52 Message-ID: Notice: Test52 needs to be tested thoroughly, as it is likely that I have broken things. Furthermore, Test52 will probably be the server that is used in XFree86 4.2.0, so any outstanding bugs need to be fixed within a week or two. Links: I just posted Test 52 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network ( http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html ) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror ( http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html ). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test52.exe.bz2 (1074 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20011111-1200.tar.bz2 (69 KiB) Changes: 1) InitOutput.c - ddxProcessArgument () - Add an undocumented parameter, -ignoreinput, to allow programmers to see how the non-NativeGDI engines behave when they do not receive input events. 2) win.h - Remove a duplicate declaration for winRestoreModeKeyStates (). 3) win.h - Add defines for ABS_AUTOHIDE and ABS_ALWAYSONTOP that should be in Cygwin's w32api shellapi.h 4) winengine.c - New file. Move winDetectSupportedEngines () and winSetEngine () here from winscrinit.c 5) wincreatewnd.c - New file. Move winCreateBoundingWindowFullScreen () and winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () here from winscrinit.c 6) wincreatewnd.c - Add a function, winAdjustForAutoHide (), to detect the location of auto-hide Window's TaskBars then back away one pixel from those edges of the screen to allow the TaskBars to popup when the mouse is moved over them. 7) winkeybd.c - winKeybdReleaseModifierKeys () - Don't check which modifier keys are down when we lose focus, just release them all; this doesn't have any adverse effect and it makes the code simpler. 8) winkeybd.c - Add a function, winSendKeyEvent ()to simplify sending a keystroke event. 9) winscrinit.c - Move winPaintBackground () to winmisc.c 10) winwndproc.c - winWindowProc () - Remove duplicate checks for pScreenPriv == NULL. 11) winwndproc.c - winWindowProc () - Only reload the privates property when the window handle has changed. I think I did this correctly this time around. 12) winwndproc.c - winWindowProc () - WM_HOTKEY - Create an engine specific function to handle the Alt+Tab hotkey. Move the Primary FB engine's functionality into that new engine specific function. Set all other engine's function to perform no operation. 13) winwndproc.c - winWindowProc () - Change the check on input events from pScreenInfo->dwEngine == WIN_ENGINE_NATIVE_GDI to pScreenInfo->fIgnoreInput. Enjoy, Harold From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Nov 11 09:50:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 09:50:00 -0000 Subject: Make this a subscriber only mailing list? Message-ID: Chris, > I've just changed the cygwin-apps mailing list so that only subscribers > to some cygwin mailing list can send email there. > > Do we want to do the same thing here? It would probably make spam > non-existent. > > cgf I quite often am not subscribed to this list, purely for the reason that I tend to work a little too hard on the project when I am subscribed. How will I post my release announcements, etc. if I am not subscribed? We get only a handful of spam on this list, I would prefer to leave the list open for all mailers until roughly 5% of the mail is spam. Currently, I'd estimate that we are below 1%. Harold From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Sun Nov 11 11:36:00 2001 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:36:00 -0000 Subject: xserver crashes on qt3 example xform Message-ID: <00f801c16ae8$db4343a0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Hi, the xform example app from qt3 causes an xserver crash with the following message: Fatal server error: Beziers this big not yet supported Regards Ralf From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Nov 11 12:06:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:06:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 53 Message-ID: Notice: Test53 needs to be tested thoroughly, as it is likely that I have broken things. Furthermore, Test53 will probably be the server that is used in XFree86 4.2.0, so any outstanding bugs need to be fixed within a week or two. Links: I just posted Test 53 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network ( http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html ) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror ( http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html ). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test53.exe.bz2 (1074 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20011111-1500.tar.bz2 (69 KiB) Changes: 1) winkeybd.c - winRestoreModeKeyStates () - This function is supposed to handle the case where the user switches out of Cygwin/XFree86, changes the state of a mode key (i.e. Num Lock), then returns to Cygwin/XFree86. Back in May I replaced a macro, WIN_XOR, with the C binary operator ^. At the time I didn't realize that I was using the binary operator instead of the logical operator. The end result is that some of the mode keys were toggled each time that Cygwin/XFree86 gained and lost focus, regardless of whether the key state had changed. The WIN_XOR macro is being used again, and I have added a note as to why the C xor operator cannot be used. This has been broken for months, I'm really surprised that no one noticed it yet. 2) winwndproc.c - winWindowProc () - Move the mode key state save/restore function calls to the WM_KILLFOCUS and WM_SETFOCUS messages, from the WM_ACTIVATE message. Enjoy, Harold From cgf@redhat.com Sun Nov 11 13:12:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:12:00 -0000 Subject: Make this a subscriber only mailing list? References: Message-ID: <20011111211224.GA23355@redhat.com> On Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 12:50:24PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote: >> I've just changed the cygwin-apps mailing list so that only subscribers >> to some cygwin mailing list can send email there. >> >> Do we want to do the same thing here? It would probably make spam >> non-existent. > >I quite often am not subscribed to this list, purely for the reason that I >tend to work a little too hard on the project when I am subscribed. How >will I post my release announcements, etc. if I am not subscribed? Subscribe to cygwin-xfree-allow: http://sources.redhat.com/lists.html#rbl-sucks cgf From kim.saunders@mercuryit.com.au Sun Nov 11 20:15:00 2001 From: kim.saunders@mercuryit.com.au (Kim Saunders) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:15:00 -0000 Subject: xlib threads, xwinx Message-ID: <1005538536.7699.5.camel@allords> Hi all, First of all, a big thank you to all of you involved in cygwin-xfree and cygwin generally. I've been using cygwin for all the general stuff for a while (when I absolutely *have* to use windows...). More recently, I've used cygwin and cygwin-xfree to create XWinX, a project which some on this list might be interested in. Basically, it's an X client for win32 that uses cygwin and xlib to project the windows desktop into a window on the X server. Details at http://www.xwinx.org/ . Anyway, it's definately something that couldn't exist without the hard work of everyone involved with cygwin, xfree86, and cygwin-xfree, so thanks. My question relates to threading with xlib on windows. Calling XInitThreads() seems to return a value suggesting that threading is *not* supported in the xlib distributed with cygwin-xfree. Is this correct? And if threading isn't supported, how hard would it be to support? At present, we are using locking with pthreads to make sure only one thread uses xlib at any given time, but we'd prefer to use native threading with xlib. Thanks, KimS From mark.baxter@4tsolutions.se Mon Nov 12 01:22:00 2001 From: mark.baxter@4tsolutions.se (mark.baxter@4tsolutions.se) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 01:22:00 -0000 Subject: WindowMaker 0.70.0 and the -lX11 problem Message-ID: What is this "-X11" problem you are talking about? I use Windowmaker daily at work on a Cygwin/XF86 installation runing on NT4. For me Windowmaker compiled out of the box. When configuring I used " --disable-locale". I think I used "--prefix=" when I first installed, but that has been some time ago now. I don't think any of my upgrades have required it. My wmaker.exe and wmake.inst ended up in /usr/local/bin/ I hope this helps. /MB |--------+-------------------------------------> | | "Robert Grey" | | | | | | | | | Sent by: | | | cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.| | | redhat.com | | | | | | | | | 09/11/01 17:47 | | | | |--------+-------------------------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com | | cc: | | Subject: WindowMaker 0.70.0 and the -lX11 problem | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Did anyone ever figure out how to fix the stupid windowmaker -lX11 compile problem? I saw a bunch of people blaming each other for whose fault it was but never a resolution. I tried to install 0.70.0 to no avail and 0.65.1 to no avail. I did the manual compiles to get through a build but after a "make install" I can't find the binary wmaker or the wmaker.inst anywhere outside of the package. Has anyone gotten through a COMPLETE install of either one of these versions on cygwin or should I give up? -Rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Mon Nov 12 01:33:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 01:33:00 -0000 Subject: xlib threads, xwinx References: <1005538536.7699.5.camel@allords> Message-ID: <20011112093332.A2957@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 03:15:35PM +1100, Kim Saunders wrote: > Hi all, > > First of all, a big thank you to all of you involved in cygwin-xfree and > cygwin generally. I've been using cygwin for all the general stuff for a > while (when I absolutely *have* to use windows...). > > More recently, I've used cygwin and cygwin-xfree to create XWinX, a > project which some on this list might be interested in. Basically, it's > an X client for win32 that uses cygwin and xlib to project the windows > desktop into a window on the X server. Details at http://www.xwinx.org/ . > > Anyway, it's definately something that couldn't exist without the hard > work of everyone involved with cygwin, xfree86, and cygwin-xfree, so > thanks. > > My question relates to threading with xlib on windows. Calling > XInitThreads() seems to return a value suggesting that threading is > *not* supported in the xlib distributed with cygwin-xfree. Is this > correct? > Yes. In 4.1.0 it is disabled. In the upcoming 4.2.0 release (or use the current CVS) it is supported. Alan. From laurent.pinchart@capflow.com Mon Nov 12 02:42:00 2001 From: laurent.pinchart@capflow.com (Laurent Pinchart) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 02:42:00 -0000 Subject: Native GDI engine on Server Test 51 to 53 References: Message-ID: <3BEFA735.5040900@capflow.com> The native GDI engine doesn't work at all on my config, neither on Test 51, Test 52 or Test 53. When the X server window is opened, the background is initially blue. X then draws a few 'X' patterns on the upper left corner, fills the window with white, draws some more patterns and hangs. I attached a screenshot so you can see what kind of pattern is drawn. I'm running Win98 on a PIII. The graphic card is a SiS 6336 (which is probably irrelevant). Tell me if you want me to perform some more tests. Laurent Pinchart From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Mon Nov 12 03:14:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 03:14:00 -0000 Subject: Native GDI engine on Server Test 51 to 53 References: <3BEFA735.5040900@capflow.com> Message-ID: <20011112111353.C2957@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 11:40:53AM +0100, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > The native GDI engine doesn't work at all on my config, neither on Test > 51, Test 52 or Test 53. > > When the X server window is opened, the background is initially blue. X > then draws a few 'X' patterns on the upper left corner, fills the window > with white, draws some more patterns and hangs. I attached a screenshot > so you can see what kind of pattern is drawn. > That's because the Native GDI server isn't fully implemented yet, and there's far more work involved with this than the shadow framebuffer approach. Alan. From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Mon Nov 12 04:37:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 04:37:00 -0000 Subject: xlib threads, xwinx References: <1005538536.7699.5.camel@allords> <20011112093332.A2957@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <009f01c16b76$f4b26710$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Hourihane" > > XInitThreads() seems to return a value suggesting that threading is > > *not* supported in the xlib distributed with cygwin-xfree. Is this > > correct? > > > Yes. In 4.1.0 it is disabled. In the upcoming 4.2.0 release (or use the > current CVS) it is supported. Alan, What was the bug in the end? Rob From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Mon Nov 12 04:49:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 04:49:00 -0000 Subject: xlib threads, xwinx References: <1005538536.7699.5.camel@allords> <20011112093332.A2957@fairlite.demon.co.uk> <009f01c16b76$f4b26710$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <20011112124908.D2957@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 11:38:38PM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Hourihane" > > > XInitThreads() seems to return a value suggesting that threading is > > > *not* supported in the xlib distributed with cygwin-xfree. Is this > > > correct? > > > > > Yes. In 4.1.0 it is disabled. In the upcoming 4.2.0 release (or use > the > > current CVS) it is supported. > > Alan, > What was the bug in the end? > It seems as though the later cygwin releases fixed some of the problems, but the other issues where how to get the linker to 'do the right thing' with dllexport symbols using CONSTANT or DATA declarations. I ended up using the auto-import features, which work a treat. I'll be trying it more extensively with the NativeGDI server, as running two ico's with the shadow stuff is just too slow and jerky. Alan. From laurent.pinchart@capflow.com Mon Nov 12 05:14:00 2001 From: laurent.pinchart@capflow.com (Laurent Pinchart) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 05:14:00 -0000 Subject: Native GDI engine on Server Test 51 to 53 References: <3BEFA735.5040900@capflow.com> <20011112111353.C2957@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <3BEFCADE.9050403@capflow.com> > > >That's because the Native GDI server isn't fully implemented yet, and >there's far more work involved with this than the shadow framebuffer >approach. > [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 51 stated that the Native GDI engine was now able to draw the X background. As it doesn't work properly on my computer, I thought I would report it to the list. Laurent Pinchart From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Mon Nov 12 07:18:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:18:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 53 References: Message-ID: <20011112151840.G2957@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 03:06:27PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote: > 2) winwndproc.c - winWindowProc () - Move the mode key state > save/restore function calls to the WM_KILLFOCUS and WM_SETFOCUS > messages, from the WM_ACTIVATE message. > Harold, Over the weekend I've been working on the NativeGDI server, and I've come across a few problems that will need some code bashing.... Your currently handling input events in the block/wakeup handlers - this isn't good. Although it works for a shadow framebuffer because of the nature of the way it handles updates to the screen by blitting touched portions of the fb. The secondary problem to this is that your not using the SmartScheduler as this exposes the problem even more. What we need to do is move the input event handling to ProcessInputEvents() - so this won't rely on the block/wakeup handlers being processed. We can re-enable SmartScheduler. Alan. From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Nov 12 12:39:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:39:00 -0000 Subject: Cygx NativeGDI screenshot References: <3BEFE1C1.4050706@capflow.com> Message-ID: Laurent, Hmm... The XWin.log that you sent me was in DOS format, not UNIX format. I'm guessing that you have Cygwin setup for DOS mode mounts, rather than UNIX mode mounts, and I am wondering if this is causing problems with reading in the initial pattern bitmaps (I'm not sure that any are read in, but it is possible). Could you try using UNIX mounts and see what happens? The first part of this answer covers one method of switching your mount mode: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-error-font-eof Thanks, Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Laurent Pinchart [ mailto:laurent.pinchart@capflow.com ] > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:51 AM > To: huntharo@msu.edu > Subject: Re: Cygx NativeGDI screenshot > > > I tried both 24bpp and 16bpp. Here's a screenshot of the final result in > 16bpp, along with XWin.log. > > The screen is filled with white after 46 dialog boxes, and there are (if > I didn't miss any) a total of 102 dialog boxes. > > Laurent Pinchart > > From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Nov 12 12:40:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:40:00 -0000 Subject: xlib threads, xwinx Message-ID: I added a link to XWinX on our Related Sites page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/links.html Very interesting project. Harold From normw@bocnet.com.au Mon Nov 12 17:19:00 2001 From: normw@bocnet.com.au (NormW) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:19:00 -0000 Subject: Install Issues - WinNT Message-ID: <000b01c16be1$41795990$b441ca0a@admin1> Good afternoon from Oz. I am almost a newbie with Unix environments so I don't know how much of the problems are mine. ???? I downloaded Xfree86 for CygWin from our local mirror and an attached text file will indicate the issues encounted in case they may be something other than from my cause. ???? Trust todays accident in New York is an aberation and wish all good fortune. ???? Norm Attachment: Install-Issues.txt Description: Text document From huntharo@msu.edu Mon Nov 12 17:42:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:42:00 -0000 Subject: Cygx NativeGDI screenshot References: <3BEFE1C1.4050706@capflow.com> Message-ID: Laurent, Alan and I are both running Windows 2000; we get the same output on our computers (I think). I'm guessing that I probably made a function call that doesn't work so well on Windows 95/98/Me, though I really did try to avoid doing such a thing. Oh well, I'm sure we'll stumble across that errant call sooner or later... Harold > -----Original Message----- > From: Laurent Pinchart [ mailto:laurent.pinchart@capflow.com ] > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:51 AM > To: huntharo@msu.edu > Subject: Re: Cygx NativeGDI screenshot > > > I tried both 24bpp and 16bpp. Here's a screenshot of the final result in > 16bpp, along with XWin.log. > > The screen is filled with white after 46 dialog boxes, and there are (if > I didn't miss any) a total of 102 dialog boxes. > > Laurent Pinchart > > From laurent.pinchart@capflow.com Tue Nov 13 00:02:00 2001 From: laurent.pinchart@capflow.com (Laurent Pinchart) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 00:02:00 -0000 Subject: Cygx NativeGDI screenshot References: Message-ID: <3BF0D330.2060007@capflow.com> > > >Hmm... The XWin.log that you sent me was in DOS format, not UNIX format. >I'm guessing that you have Cygwin setup for DOS mode mounts, rather than >UNIX mode mounts, and I am wondering if this is causing problems with >reading in the initial pattern bitmaps (I'm not sure that any are read in, >but it is possible). Could you try using UNIX mounts and see what happens? > Cygwin is setup for UNIX mode mounts. I guess the mailer messed up XWin.log, as it is in UNIX format here. Sorry :-) Laurent Pinchart From freeweb@nyckelpiga.de Tue Nov 13 03:18:00 2001 From: freeweb@nyckelpiga.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 03:18:00 -0000 Subject: Xvnc References: Message-ID: <2987645747.20011113114713@familiehaase.de> Hallo Tony, 2001-11-13 11:39:22, du schriebst: > I was wondering if someone had a copy of the cygwin patch for the above > software? I tried a couple binary versions I found floating around, but > they all refuse to work. You are speaking of Xvnc? Sorry, but 1. this (OT) thread is about QT 2. would you mind to subscribe cygwin-xfree at cygwin.com and ask there again? 3. We will move this thread to the xfree list now, too. Gerrit -- convey Information Systems GmbH http://www.convey.de/ Vitalisstra????e 326-328 Gerrit P. Haase D-50933 K????ln gerrit.haase@convey.de Fon: ++49 221 6903922 From freeweb@nyckelpiga.de Tue Nov 13 04:47:00 2001 From: freeweb@nyckelpiga.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 04:47:00 -0000 Subject: Install Issues - WinNT References: <000b01c16be1$41795990$b441ca0a@admin1> Message-ID: <4192207887.20011113130315@familiehaase.de> Hallo NormW, 2001-11-13 12:59:29, du schriebst: The files you downloaded were in gzip format, just your download utlity broke things and renamed it from tgz to tar or unpacked it on the fly. Use ftp to do downloads. It will work as it is stated in the instructions (you read them?). Gerrit -- convey Information Systems GmbH http://www.convey.de/ Vitalisstra????e 326-328 Gerrit P. Haase D-50933 K????ln gerrit.haase@convey.de Fon: ++49 221 6903922 From Clark.Cooper@vc3.com Tue Nov 13 06:17:00 2001 From: Clark.Cooper@vc3.com (Clark Cooper) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 06:17:00 -0000 Subject: all upper case Message-ID: <200111131416.fADEGaI16537@doit.sc.slr.com> I am running cygwin/xfree on a Windows 2000 system and am experiencing a condition in which all upper case letters are enforced in my X windows. It is almost as if the shift key has been applied (typing a number returns not the number but the shift function (*,%,$,#)). Exiting and restarting cygin/xfree clears the condition. Also, is there a way to cut and past back and forth between windows and the X environment? thank you, Clark Cooper From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Nov 13 06:24:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 06:24:00 -0000 Subject: all upper case References: <200111131416.fADEGaI16537@doit.sc.slr.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Clark Cooper wrote: > I am running cygwin/xfree on a Windows 2000 system and am experiencing a > condition in which all upper case letters are enforced in my X windows. > It is almost as if the shift key has been applied (typing a number > returns not the number but the shift function (*,%,$,#)). Exiting and > restarting cygin/xfree clears the condition. Pressing the right shift key cleared the situation in some cases for me. > Also, is there a way to cut and past back and forth between windows and > the X environment? Yes, look for xwinclip on http://xfree.cygwin.com bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From druid@psu.edu Tue Nov 13 07:31:00 2001 From: druid@psu.edu (Ryan W Sims) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 07:31:00 -0000 Subject: xterm and cygwin v.1.3.5-1 Message-ID: <3BF0F556.4463.10B823@localhost> I upgraded to the latest version of cygwin last night, and now xterm seems to be broken. When I bring it up, all my toolkit options are correct, but I get no prompt, no tab support, no command scrolling, and ssh tells me something about stdin not being a terminal. When I telnet into another computer, I get it's prompt, at least... When I bring up man pages or pipe anything to less, it just scrolls through the whole thing without stopping. There doesn't seem to be any way to fix this buy changing options to xterm, and the problem exists in both icewm and twm. Help? -- RyanWDruid From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Tue Nov 13 07:39:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 07:39:00 -0000 Subject: xterm and cygwin v.1.3.5-1 References: <3BF0F556.4463.10B823@localhost> Message-ID: <20011113153919.F3021@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 10:26:30AM -0800, Ryan W Sims wrote: > I upgraded to the latest version of cygwin last night, and now xterm > seems to be broken. When I bring it up, all my toolkit options are > correct, but I get no prompt, no tab support, no command scrolling, and > ssh tells me something about stdin not being a terminal. When I telnet > into another computer, I get it's prompt, at least... When I bring up man > pages or pipe anything to less, it just scrolls through the whole thing > without stopping. There doesn't seem to be any way to fix this buy > changing options to xterm, and the problem exists in both icewm and > twm. Help? > Upgrade to 1.3.5-2. It seems something is broken with 1.3.5-1. Alan. From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Nov 13 12:50:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:50:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Cygwin/XFree86 Documentation 0.9.4 Message-ID: Links: I just posted release 0.9.4 to the documentation development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/documentation/ Documentation, formatted, direct links: Contributor's Guide http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg User's Guide http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/ FAQ http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ Documentation source releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network ( http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html ) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/documentation/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror ( http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html ). Documentation source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/docs/cygwin-xfree-doc-0.9.4.tar.gz (271 KiB) Changes: 1) All - Use SI prefixes for binary file sizes. See The NIST Reference on Constants, Units, and Uncertainty ( http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html ) for more information. 2) All - Check and correct spelling. 3) CG - Wrote two and a half pages in the Server Architecture - User Input section. Enjoy, Harold From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Tue Nov 13 14:29:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:29:00 -0000 Subject: console/GUI programs... FW: [ros-kernel] Re: Striped VIM for ReactOS Message-ID: This may be of interest to some folk.... I'm going to see if I can find such prolog code in gcc anywhere, and if so create a variant just for the mixed mode programs (such as setup.exe, the X server etc). Rob > -----Original Message----- > From: Craig Barkhouse [ mailto:craig@wanware.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:43 AM > To: ros-kernel@reactos.com > Subject: [ros-kernel] Re: Striped VIM for ReactOS > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Collins" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:11 PM > Subject: [ros-kernel] Re: Striped VIM for ReactOS > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Craig Barkhouse > > > To: ros-kernel@reactos.com > > > Sent: 11/12/01 1:40 PM > > > Subject: [ros-kernel] Re: Bug Report - VIM for Win32 > > > > > > The difference is mainly what the compiler inserts into > your program > > as > > > startup code. > > > I thought a GUI app was _not_ passed the console handle when it's > > started from cmd.exe (or an equivalent). > > > > Thats more than a compiler difference IMO. > > > > If however, this is a compiler issue, please please please > let me know > > what call is in the prolog to get attach to the console - the only > > AttachConsole call I know of is in XP, and the behaviour of > not getting > > the console handle has existed since win95. > > By default, a newly created process inherits the same console > (if any) of its parent, unless the process was created using > the CREATE_NEW_CONSOLE flag. Console apps therefore don't > have to call anything special in order to attach to the > console if they are launched from a process that is attached > to a console. To handle the case where they are launched > from a process that is not attached to a console (a "GUI" > app), "console" apps have an explicit call to AllocConsole() > in the startup code that gets executed before main(). This > call silently fails when the app has already inherited a console. > "GUI" apps, on the other hand, don't want a console. When > they are luanched from a process that is not attached to a > console (a "GUI" app), they're fine. To handle the case > where they are launched from a process that is attached to a > console (a "console" app), "GUI" apps have an explicit call > to FreeConsole() in the startup code that gets executed > before WinMain(). This call silently fails when the app > hadn't inherited a console. So you see, it's not that the > GUI app never had access to the parent console; it's that the > GUI app has voluntarily detached itself. How do you get back > to that console? I guess XP's new AttachConsole() API > function does that. Prior to that, you could only ensure > that you were attached to *some* console by calling AllocConsole(). > To summarize, the main difference between console apps and > GUI apps is whether the app calls AllocConsole() ("console") > or FreeConsole() ("GUI") at startup time. It is my > understanding that it is the compiler which inserts this > startup code for doing any initialization tasks -- such as > setting up the *argv[] array -- before launching the user's > main function. The compiler knows which way to write the > startup code based on the /SUBSYSTEM: option you pass it, or > based on a default set of rules (main()? console; WinMain()? > GUI). This being the case, if the compiler allows you to > write this code yourself (I *think* VC++ 6.0 does, but I'm > not 100% sure and I can't find the option right now), you > could in theory create an app that ran as a GUI app when > launched from a GUI app, but ran as a console app when > launched from a console app. > > > ==================o remove yourself from this mailing list, > go to =ttp://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html > ================= > From cgf@redhat.com Tue Nov 13 18:11:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:11:00 -0000 Subject: xterm and cygwin v.1.3.5-1 References: <3BF0F556.4463.10B823@localhost> <20011113153919.F3021@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011114021132.GD1335@redhat.com> On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 03:39:19PM +0000, Alan Hourihane wrote: >On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 10:26:30AM -0800, Ryan W Sims wrote: >> I upgraded to the latest version of cygwin last night, and now xterm >> seems to be broken. When I bring it up, all my toolkit options are >> correct, but I get no prompt, no tab support, no command scrolling, and >> ssh tells me something about stdin not being a terminal. When I telnet >> into another computer, I get it's prompt, at least... When I bring up man >> pages or pipe anything to less, it just scrolls through the whole thing >> without stopping. There doesn't seem to be any way to fix this buy >> changing options to xterm, and the problem exists in both icewm and >> twm. Help? >> >Upgrade to 1.3.5-2. It seems something is broken with 1.3.5-1. There were no bug fixes in 1.3.5-1 except one very minor one with key down events when a console is in raw mode. Since xterm is not a console application, I don't know how that could help. cgf From cgf@redhat.com Tue Nov 13 19:27:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:27:00 -0000 Subject: console/GUI programs... FW: [ros-kernel] Re: Striped VIM for ReactOS References: Message-ID: <20011114031229.GE1335@redhat.com> On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 09:36:32AM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: >This may be of interest to some folk.... > >I'm going to see if I can find such prolog code in gcc anywhere, and if >so create a variant just for the mixed mode programs (such as setup.exe, >the X server etc). I think the author is slightly confused. The subsystem bit is set in the executable header. MSVC's dumpbin.exe shows executables as either a "CUI" if it is a console app or a "GUI" if it is a windows app. I'm pretty sure that the decision on how to handle the console is done by the windows loader. AFAIK, it's not up to program control as to whether the program inherits a console or not. If there was prologue code, it would somehow be invoked by -mwindows. If you look at the code in gcc, you can see that the only thing that -mwindows seems to do is pass the '--subsystem windows' option to ld. This does cause the linked program to use a different startup function but I don't think that it does anything magical. cgf >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Craig Barkhouse [ mailto:craig@wanware.com ] >> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:43 AM >> To: ros-kernel@reactos.com >> Subject: [ros-kernel] Re: Striped VIM for ReactOS >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Collins" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:11 PM >> Subject: [ros-kernel] Re: Striped VIM for ReactOS >> >> >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: Craig Barkhouse >> > > To: ros-kernel@reactos.com >> > > Sent: 11/12/01 1:40 PM >> > > Subject: [ros-kernel] Re: Bug Report - VIM for Win32 >> > > >> > > The difference is mainly what the compiler inserts into >> your program >> > as >> > > startup code. >> >> > I thought a GUI app was _not_ passed the console handle when it's >> > started from cmd.exe (or an equivalent). >> > >> > Thats more than a compiler difference IMO. >> > >> > If however, this is a compiler issue, please please please >> let me know >> > what call is in the prolog to get attach to the console - the only >> > AttachConsole call I know of is in XP, and the behaviour of >> not getting >> > the console handle has existed since win95. >> >> By default, a newly created process inherits the same console >> (if any) of its parent, unless the process was created using >> the CREATE_NEW_CONSOLE flag. Console apps therefore don't >> have to call anything special in order to attach to the >> console if they are launched from a process that is attached >> to a console. To handle the case where they are launched >> from a process that is not attached to a console (a "GUI" >> app), "console" apps have an explicit call to AllocConsole() >> in the startup code that gets executed before main(). This >> call silently fails when the app has already inherited a console. >> "GUI" apps, on the other hand, don't want a console. When >> they are luanched from a process that is not attached to a >> console (a "GUI" app), they're fine. To handle the case >> where they are launched from a process that is attached to a >> console (a "console" app), "GUI" apps have an explicit call >> to FreeConsole() in the startup code that gets executed >> before WinMain(). This call silently fails when the app >> hadn't inherited a console. So you see, it's not that the >> GUI app never had access to the parent console; it's that the >> GUI app has voluntarily detached itself. How do you get back >> to that console? I guess XP's new AttachConsole() API >> function does that. Prior to that, you could only ensure >> that you were attached to *some* console by calling AllocConsole(). >> To summarize, the main difference between console apps and >> GUI apps is whether the app calls AllocConsole() ("console") >> or FreeConsole() ("GUI") at startup time. It is my >> understanding that it is the compiler which inserts this >> startup code for doing any initialization tasks -- such as >> setting up the *argv[] array -- before launching the user's >> main function. The compiler knows which way to write the >> startup code based on the /SUBSYSTEM: option you pass it, or >> based on a default set of rules (main()? console; WinMain()? >> GUI). This being the case, if the compiler allows you to >> write this code yourself (I *think* VC++ 6.0 does, but I'm >> not 100% sure and I can't find the option right now), you >> could in theory create an app that ran as a GUI app when >> launched from a GUI app, but ran as a console app when >> launched from a console app. >> >> >> ==================o remove yourself from this mailing list, >> go to =ttp://www.reactos.com/home/mailing.html >> ================= >> -- cgf@redhat.com Red Hat, Inc. http://sources.redhat.com/ http://www.redhat.com/ From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Tue Nov 13 19:29:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:29:00 -0000 Subject: console/GUI programs... FW: [ros-kernel] Re: Striped VIM for ReactOS References: <20011114031229.GE1335@redhat.com> Message-ID: <03c401c16cbc$decb2030$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Faylor" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:12 PM Subject: Re: console/GUI programs... FW: [ros-kernel] Re: Striped VIM for ReactOS > On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 09:36:32AM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: > >This may be of interest to some folk.... > > > >I'm going to see if I can find such prolog code in gcc anywhere, and if > >so create a variant just for the mixed mode programs (such as setup.exe, > >the X server etc). > > I think the author is slightly confused. The subsystem bit is set in > the executable header. MSVC's dumpbin.exe shows executables as either a > "CUI" if it is a console app or a "GUI" if it is a windows app. Yes. This has been going back and forth in the reactos list for a few days now. > I'm pretty sure that the decision on how to handle the console is done > by the windows loader. AFAIK, it's not up to program control as to > whether the program inherits a console or not. That is also my understanding. > If there was prologue code, it would somehow be invoked by -mwindows. > If you look at the code in gcc, you can see that the only thing that > -mwindows seems to do is pass the '--subsystem windows' option to ld. > This does cause the linked program to use a different startup function > but I don't think that it does anything magical. I'm going to look into it regardless. If the author is confused, I waste some time. If not, we _may_ have an answer.. Rob From cgf@redhat.com Tue Nov 13 20:30:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 20:30:00 -0000 Subject: sound support more info - kde2 porting status -- still looking for a volunteer References: <20011020122946.A6118@redhat.com> <000501c15997$b069ebf0$9a6707d5@BRAMSCHE> <20011020235014.D28304@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20011114043027.GA19437@redhat.com> This would be trivial to implement. I'd appreciate it if someone would take a stab at implementing it. cgf On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 11:50:14PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 08:47:37PM +0200, Ralf Habacker wrote: >> >>> >>> >6. the sound support of cygwin isn't ready. Especially setting >>> > of audio buffer size from an application is a problem. >>> > Look in the thread about the rocksndiamond game started with >>> > http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q4/msg00171.html . >>> >>> I didn't see anything which actually set the blocksize in the code >>> fragment that you sent to cygwin-apps. I just saw code which read the >>> block size and said "this should return 512". But, cygwin uses a larger >>> buffer than that. I don't actually see an ioctl for setting the block >>> size under linux, but maybe I missed something. > >Duh. You even mentioned this in your email. Sorry for missing it. > >This looks like more than a simple fix to the fhandler_dsp.cc code but it >should be pretty easy if anyone wants to tackle it? > >Anyone interested in implementing SNDCTL_DSP_SETFRAGMENT? > >cgf >> >>It's called the fragment size and uses the SNDCTL_DSP_SETFRAGMENT ioctl call. >>It seems that the lower word contains the log2 of the buffer size and in the >>higher word the number of buffers are set. Currently Cygwin ignores this call. >> >> /* Example for fragment specification: >> - 2 buffers / 512 bytes (giving 1/16 second resolution for 8 kHz) >> - (with stereo the effective buffer size will shrink to 256) >> => fragment_size = 0x00020009 */ >> >> if (ioctl(audio.device_fd,SNDCTL_DSP_SETFRAGMENT,&fragment_spec) < 0) >> Error(ERR_EXIT_SOUND_SERVER, >> "cannot set fragment size of /dev/dsp - no sounds"); >> >>Ralf > >-- >cgf@cygnus.com Red Hat, Inc. > http://sources.redhat.com/ http://www.redhat.com/ -- cgf@redhat.com Red Hat, Inc. http://sources.redhat.com/ http://www.redhat.com/ From lsmithjr@monster-solutions.net Tue Nov 13 20:47:00 2001 From: lsmithjr@monster-solutions.net (Larry Smith Jr.) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 20:47:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin and XDMCP References: <20011020122946.A6118@redhat.com> <000501c15997$b069ebf0$9a6707d5@BRAMSCHE> <20011020235014.D28304@redhat.com> <20011114043027.GA19437@redhat.com> Message-ID: <005601c16cc7$4e70c6b0$6402a8c0@lsmith5953> All, I am new here. I am trying to get Cygwin working with XDMCP from a Windows 2000 workstation to a Redhat 7.2 server and I am getting the following error. Any Help would be greatly appreciated.. _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root http://www.x10.com/friends/refer.cgi?lsmithjr@atl.mediaone.net From huntharo@msu.edu Tue Nov 13 21:40:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:40:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin and XDMCP Message-ID: Larry, > I am new here. I am trying to get Cygwin working with XDMCP from a > Windows 2000 workstation to a Redhat 7.2 server and I am getting the > following error. Any Help would be greatly appreciated.. Wow, I should write a section in the User's Guide about that! No wait, I already did, months ago: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html > _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root Hey, that's an error I've never heard of! 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IMarket@global-mail.ru. ???????????????????????????????? InfoMarket From trevorforbes@ozemail.com.au Tue Nov 13 23:45:00 2001 From: trevorforbes@ozemail.com.au (Trevor Forbes) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:45:00 -0000 Subject: sound support more info - kde2 porting status -- still looking for a volunteer References: <20011020122946.A6118@redhat.com> <000501c15997$b069ebf0$9a6707d5@BRAMSCHE> <20011020235014.D28304@redhat.com> <20011114043027.GA19437@redhat.com> Message-ID: <007301c16ce0$604fef50$0300a8c0@ufo> Yea, I will give it a go...... Trevor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Faylor" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:00 PM Subject: Re: sound support more info - kde2 porting status -- still looking for a volunteer > This would be trivial to implement. > > I'd appreciate it if someone would take a stab at implementing it. > > cgf > > On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 11:50:14PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 08:47:37PM +0200, Ralf Habacker wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> >6. the sound support of cygwin isn't ready. Especially setting > >>> > of audio buffer size from an application is a problem. > >>> > Look in the thread about the rocksndiamond game started with > >>> > http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q4/msg00171.html . > >>> > >>> I didn't see anything which actually set the blocksize in the code > >>> fragment that you sent to cygwin-apps. I just saw code which read the > >>> block size and said "this should return 512". But, cygwin uses a larger > >>> buffer than that. I don't actually see an ioctl for setting the block > >>> size under linux, but maybe I missed something. > > > >Duh. You even mentioned this in your email. Sorry for missing it. > > > >This looks like more than a simple fix to the fhandler_dsp.cc code but it > >should be pretty easy if anyone wants to tackle it? > > > >Anyone interested in implementing SNDCTL_DSP_SETFRAGMENT? > > > >cgf > >> > >>It's called the fragment size and uses the SNDCTL_DSP_SETFRAGMENT ioctl call. > >>It seems that the lower word contains the log2 of the buffer size and in the > >>higher word the number of buffers are set. Currently Cygwin ignores this call. > >> > >> /* Example for fragment specification: > >> - 2 buffers / 512 bytes (giving 1/16 second resolution for 8 kHz) > >> - (with stereo the effective buffer size will shrink to 256) > >> => fragment_size = 0x00020009 */ > >> > >> if (ioctl(audio.device_fd,SNDCTL_DSP_SETFRAGMENT,&fragment_spec) < 0) > >> Error(ERR_EXIT_SOUND_SERVER, > >> "cannot set fragment size of /dev/dsp - no sounds"); > >> > >>Ralf > > > >-- > >cgf@cygnus.com Red Hat, Inc. > > http://sources.redhat.com/ http://www.redhat.com/ > > -- > cgf@redhat.com Red Hat, Inc. > http://sources.redhat.com/ http://www.redhat.com/ From petereneroth@yahoo.com Wed Nov 14 01:57:00 2001 From: petereneroth@yahoo.com (Peter Eneroth) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 01:57:00 -0000 Subject: setxkbmap bug in XWin-Test49.exe to XWin-Test53.exe Message-ID: <20011114095735.14649.qmail@web21001.mail.yahoo.com> In order to get my swedish keyboard to work, I have used the following command: setxkbmap.exe -layout se This worked fine for me with the original xfree 4.1.0 XWin.exe file and with the XWin-Test48.exe file. However, with XWin-Test49.exe to XWin-Test53.exe the command is broken. I have also tried using a german keyboard, but also this seems to be broken. I use W2000, cygwin 1.3.5, and xfree 4.1.0. Thanks for making xfree availible on Windows! Except for the above problem, it works great for me. Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Wed Nov 14 05:17:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 05:17:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc Message-ID: <20011114131747.C2961@fairlite.demon.co.uk> There are two new libraries in XFree86 CVS - XTrap and fontenc. So currently the cygwin build fails in places. Does someone want to stab at creating the relevant XTrap-def.cpp and fontenc-def.cpp files for the xc/lib/fontenc and xc/lib/XTrap directories. Someone could have a crack at fixing xc/programs/xtrap too then. And ship a patch off to XFree86. Thanks. Alan. From doctorj@blueyonder.co.uk Wed Nov 14 06:23:00 2001 From: doctorj@blueyonder.co.uk (Jonathan Edwards) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 06:23:00 -0000 Subject: Java display problem Message-ID: <01C16D17.DAC36B40.doctorj@blueyonder.co.uk> Hi, I'm trying to run a Java application on my local cygwin/Xfree86 setup (on Windows 98) through ssh forwarding. I have downloaded and installed the standard XFree86 setup. What I want to do is run the Java app on the remote server and then forward the display to my local X setup via ssh. I can run the Application (an Oracle installer program) on the server fine and I can see my X setup is receiving the forwarded connection from the remote server but I just get nothing on my X display. No errors, just nothing. So I wonder if this is a font issue. Can anyone help? Thanks, Jon From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Nov 14 06:40:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 06:40:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc References: <20011114131747.C2961@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Alan Hourihane wrote: > There are two new libraries in XFree86 CVS - XTrap and fontenc. So > currently the cygwin build fails in places. > > Does someone want to stab at creating the relevant XTrap-def.cpp and > fontenc-def.cpp files for the xc/lib/fontenc and xc/lib/XTrap > directories. > > Someone could have a crack at fixing xc/programs/xtrap too then. We had this small script, which grabbed the symbols from the library. I think this will at least give a good base to work on. Is this still in CVS? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From zanottif@iside.bcc.it Wed Nov 14 07:06:00 2001 From: zanottif@iside.bcc.it (Fiorenzo Zanotti) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:06:00 -0000 Subject: Extended keyboard and CDE on AIX4.3 Message-ID: Hi, I'm getting some problems with extended keyboard (italian) accessing an AIX4.3 with CDE. I'm using now a TEST53 version but the same behavior exist in TEST49. Accessing CDE on AIX 4.3 something weird happen with NUMLOCK : When ON 1) keyboard keys doesn't any visible output 2) numeric keypad keys generates numbers When OFF 1) keyboard keys work OK 2) numeric keypad doesn't produce cursor movements but generates numbers as with NUMLOCK ON In any case ALTGR doesn't work : it generates a Mode_switch keypress event, but no characters are generates. The shortest way I found to make ALTGR work (with my server launched as 'start XWin -query aix -xkbmap it' is : xmodmap -e 'keysym Mode_switch = Alt_R' When using XWin to access a Linux system all work fine !!! What do you think about these different behaviours ? (X11 version ? CDE initialization sequence ? XWin problem ?) Fiorenzo From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Wed Nov 14 07:07:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:07:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc References: <20011114131747.C2961@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011114150741.B2980@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 03:39:57PM +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > There are two new libraries in XFree86 CVS - XTrap and fontenc. So > > currently the cygwin build fails in places. > > > > Does someone want to stab at creating the relevant XTrap-def.cpp and > > fontenc-def.cpp files for the xc/lib/fontenc and xc/lib/XTrap > > directories. > > > > Someone could have a crack at fixing xc/programs/xtrap too then. > > We had this small script, which grabbed the symbols from the library. > I think this will at least give a good base to work on. Is this still > in CVS? > I don't remember committing any script to auto-generate the cpp files. Are you sure your not getting confused with the auto-generated .def files that come from the .cpp files ? Alan. From jochen@unc.edu Wed Nov 14 07:23:00 2001 From: jochen@unc.edu (Jochen Küpper) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:23:00 -0000 Subject: latest transfig+xfig working Message-ID: <86lmh9s7fm.fsf@bock.chem.unc.edu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This is simply a report that the latest transfig/xfig (3.2.3d) works essentially out of the box on Cygwin for me, using latest cygwin (yesterday) and cygwin-xfree as of Oct 12. Two changes were necessary, the first one should go into the transfig source: diff -ur transfig.3.2.3d/fig2dev/fig2dev.h transfig.3.2.3d-cygwin/fig2dev/fig2dev.h - --- transfig.3.2.3d/fig2dev/fig2dev.h Fri Jan 12 17:12:09 2001 +++ transfig.3.2.3d-cygwin/fig2dev/fig2dev.h Wed Nov 14 10:03:27 2001 @@ -191,7 +191,8 @@ #endif #if ( !(defined(BSD) && (BSD >= 199306)) && !defined(__NetBSD__) && \ - - !defined(__GNU_LIBRARY__) && !defined(__FreeBSD__) && !defined(__GLIBC__)) + !defined(__GNU_LIBRARY__) && !defined(__FreeBSD__) && \ + !defined(__GLIBC__) && !defined(__CYGWIN__)) extern char *sys_errlist[]; #endif diff -ur xfig.3.2.3d/Imakefile xfig.3.2.3d-cygwin/Imakefile - --- xfig.3.2.3d/Imakefile Tue May 29 14:32:11 2001 +++ xfig.3.2.3d-cygwin/Imakefile Wed Nov 14 10:08:45 2001 @@ -90,7 +90,7 @@ XCOMM Then be sure to change the XAW3DINC to point to the directory where your XCOMM 3D Athena widget headers are located - -#define XAW3D +XCOMM #define XAW3D #ifdef XAW3D XAW3DINC = -I/usr/include/X11/Xaw3d Greetings, Jochen - -- University of North Carolina phone: +1-919-962-4403 Department of Chemistry phone: +1-919-962-1579 Venable Hall CB#3290 (Kenan C148) fax: +1-919-843-6041 Chapel Hill, NC 27599, USA GnuPG key: 44BCCD8E -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6-cygwin-fcn-1 (Cygwin) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt and GnuPG < http://www.gnupg.org/ > iD8DBQE78oxeiJ/aUUS8zY4RArvYAKCyV9jNQY/LaUu2DbEVCzXAv2yGfgCgjQWL pGRyQFn0GxogvVxNIl2S7BY= =xUjo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kdekorte@yahoo.com Wed Nov 14 08:06:00 2001 From: kdekorte@yahoo.com (Kevin DeKorte) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:06:00 -0000 Subject: XFree and AIX weirdness Message-ID: <20011114160638.24304.qmail@web20503.mail.yahoo.com> All, I have some similar weirdness with AIX. I believe that I am running test 53, but am unsure. Is there a way to check? Anyway, when I have numlock on, the keyboard works fine. (Oh the version I am using has the Numlock State change problem, so I need to upgrade anyway). If I turn numlock off then nothing is set to the terminal. Works fine on Solaris 7 and Linux... Running in english with no xmodmaps. I'll upgrade my xfree and get back with more info. Kevin ===== --------------------------------- Kevin DeKorte kdekorte@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com From kdekorte@yahoo.com Wed Nov 14 08:15:00 2001 From: kdekorte@yahoo.com (Kevin DeKorte) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:15:00 -0000 Subject: AIX More Info Message-ID: <20011114161515.60969.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> Using Test 53 now Process: telnet to AIX server, from inside bash window in XFree set DISPLAY var on AIX machine to point to XFree start xterm in new xterm window type characters (With numlock on) nothing appears from letter keys, even Enter does not work number pad gives escape characters (With numlock off) letter keys work number pad gives escape characters close xterm window go back to telnet session to server and all keys work fine in either mode. Good news is that NumLock state is correct in 53. Kevin ===== --------------------------------- Kevin DeKorte kdekorte@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Nov 14 08:16:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:16:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc References: <20011114150741.B2980@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Alan Hourihane wrote: > > We had this small script, which grabbed the symbols from the library. > > I think this will at least give a good base to work on. Is this still > > in CVS? > > > I don't remember committing any script to auto-generate the cpp files. > > Are you sure your not getting confused with the auto-generated .def > files that come from the .cpp files ? Actually i meant a Imakefile rule, which tried to generate the .def file from the symbols exported by the library. It seems that this never made it into xfree-cvs. The following commands should print the exported symbols for the dll. nm --demangle --defined-only *.o | sed -n 's/^.* [A-Z] //p' | \ sed '/^typeinfo name\|^typeinfo for\|^vtable for\|^constrution \ vtable for\|^VTT\|:\|)/ d' For details check the thread starting with < http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2001-q3/msg00444.html > bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Wed Nov 14 09:18:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:18:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc References: <20011114150741.B2980@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011114171819.G2980@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 05:15:49PM +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > > > We had this small script, which grabbed the symbols from the library. > > > I think this will at least give a good base to work on. Is this still > > > in CVS? > > > > > I don't remember committing any script to auto-generate the cpp files. > > > > Are you sure your not getting confused with the auto-generated .def > > files that come from the .cpp files ? > > Actually i meant a Imakefile rule, which tried to generate the .def file > from the symbols exported by the library. It seems that this never made > it into xfree-cvs. > > The following commands should print the exported symbols for the dll. > nm --demangle --defined-only *.o | sed -n 's/^.* [A-Z] //p' | \ > sed '/^typeinfo name\|^typeinfo for\|^vtable for\|^constrution \ > vtable for\|^VTT\|:\|)/ d' > O.k. Can you work out the Imakefile changes needed and do a full World build and send a diff in ? Alan. From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Nov 14 09:26:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:26:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc References: <20011114171819.G2980@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Alan Hourihane wrote: > > Actually i meant a Imakefile rule, which tried to generate the .def file > > from the symbols exported by the library. It seems that this never made > > it into xfree-cvs. > > > O.k. Can you work out the Imakefile changes needed and do a full World > build and send a diff in ? I will create the .def files when I'm back home. 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Thanks for any info. // Andrew MacKenzie // http://www.edespot.com // "Caveat Lector" From steele@cs.fsu.edu Wed Nov 14 16:38:00 2001 From: steele@cs.fsu.edu (Shayne Steele) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 16:38:00 -0000 Subject: Problem displaying Java application Message-ID: <200111150035.fAF0Z3x20799@diablo.cs.fsu.edu> Hello This jar file http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~cis3931/01fall/assignments/a5/Project5.jar works when run under MS-Windows or using StarNet X-Win32 (the color chooser does not work under X-Win32), but fails with XFree86, with the following error: Exception occurred during event dispatching: java.lang.InternalError: Unsupported 16-bit depth at sun.awt.motif.X11Graphics.X11LockViewResources(Native Method) at sun.awt.motif.X11Graphics.lock(X11Graphics.java:847) at sun.java2d.loops.LockableRaster.(Compiled Code) at sun.java2d.loops.RasterOutputManager$RenderImageCachedState.getDstLR(RasterOutputManager.java:368) at sun.java2d.loops.RasterOutputManager.renderImage(RasterOutputManager.java:479) at sun.java2d.SunGraphics2D.renderingPipeImage(Compiled Code) at sun.java2d.SunGraphics2D.drawImage(SunGraphics2D.java:1633) at sun.awt.motif.X11Graphics.drawImage(X11Graphics.java:591) at javax.swing.JComponent.paintWithBuffer(Compiled Code) at javax.swing.JComponent._paintImmediately(Compiled Code) at javax.swing.JComponent.paintImmediately(Compiled Code) at javax.swing.RepaintManager.paintDirtyRegions(Compiled Code) at javax.swing.SystemEventQueueUtilities$ComponentWorkRequest.run(SystemEventQueueUtilities.java:199) at javax.swing.SystemEventQueueUtilities.processRunnableEvent(SystemEventQueueUtilities.java:399) at javax.swing.SystemEventQueueUtilities.access$0(SystemEventQueueUtilities.java:395) at javax.swing.SystemEventQueueUtilities$RunnableTarget.processEvent(SystemEventQueueUtilities.java:436) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Compiled Code) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Compiled Code) at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Compiled Code) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEvent(Compiled Code) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Compiled Code) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:83) -- Shayne Steele Graduate Student in Computer Science at FSU steele@cs.fsu.edu http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~steele/ With great abilities come great responsibilities. -- Stan Lee From huntharo@msu.edu Wed Nov 14 18:05:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:05:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc Message-ID: > > > > We had this small script, which grabbed the symbols from the library. > > > > I think this will at least give a good base to work on. Is this still > > > > in CVS? > > > > > > > I don't remember committing any script to auto-generate the cpp files. > > > > > > Are you sure your not getting confused with the auto-generated .def > > > files that come from the .cpp files ? > > > > Actually i meant a Imakefile rule, which tried to generate the .def file > > from the symbols exported by the library. It seems that this never made > > it into xfree-cvs. > > > > The following commands should print the exported symbols for the dll. > > nm --demangle --defined-only *.o | sed -n 's/^.* [A-Z] //p' | \ > > sed '/^typeinfo name\|^typeinfo for\|^vtable for\|^constrution \ > > vtable for\|^VTT\|:\|)/ d' > > > O.k. Can you work out the Imakefile changes needed and do a full World > build and send a diff in ? If I recall correctly, the reason the 'nm' command was not committed was because it didn't work during cross compiling. I could be wrong, but please send me a patch to test for cross compiling before committing. Alexander - your followup to create the new static .def files sounds good to me. :) Harold From cgf@redhat.com Wed Nov 14 18:09:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:09:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc References: Message-ID: <20011115020946.GA2123@redhat.com> On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 09:05:10PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote: >> > > > We had this small script, which grabbed the symbols from the >library. >> > > > I think this will at least give a good base to work on. Is this >still >> > > > in CVS? >> > > > >> > > I don't remember committing any script to auto-generate the cpp files. >> > > >> > > Are you sure your not getting confused with the auto-generated .def >> > > files that come from the .cpp files ? >> > >> > Actually i meant a Imakefile rule, which tried to generate the .def file >> > from the symbols exported by the library. It seems that this never made >> > it into xfree-cvs. >> > >> > The following commands should print the exported symbols for the dll. >> > nm --demangle --defined-only *.o | sed -n 's/^.* [A-Z] //p' | \ >> > sed '/^typeinfo name\|^typeinfo for\|^vtable for\|^constrution \ >> > vtable for\|^VTT\|:\|)/ d' >> > >> O.k. Can you work out the Imakefile changes needed and do a full World >> build and send a diff in ? > >If I recall correctly, the reason the 'nm' command was not committed was >because it didn't work during cross compiling. I could be wrong, but please >send me a patch to test for cross compiling before committing. It's probably obvious but you could do something like: nm=`{i6q86-pc-cygwin-nm --help >/dev/null 2>& 1 && echo i686-pc-cygwin-nm; } || echo nm` and then use '$nm' in the above. Assuming that this was cygwin-specific, of course. cgf From cgf@redhat.com Wed Nov 14 18:14:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:14:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc References: <20011115020946.GA2123@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20011115021454.GB2186@redhat.com> On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 09:09:46PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 09:05:10PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote: >>> > > > We had this small script, which grabbed the symbols from the >>library. >>> > > > I think this will at least give a good base to work on. Is this >>still >>> > > > in CVS? >>> > > > >>> > > I don't remember committing any script to auto-generate the cpp files. >>> > > >>> > > Are you sure your not getting confused with the auto-generated .def >>> > > files that come from the .cpp files ? >>> > >>> > Actually i meant a Imakefile rule, which tried to generate the .def file >>> > from the symbols exported by the library. It seems that this never made >>> > it into xfree-cvs. >>> > >>> > The following commands should print the exported symbols for the dll. >>> > nm --demangle --defined-only *.o | sed -n 's/^.* [A-Z] //p' | \ >>> > sed '/^typeinfo name\|^typeinfo for\|^vtable for\|^constrution \ >>> > vtable for\|^VTT\|:\|)/ d' >>> > >>> O.k. Can you work out the Imakefile changes needed and do a full World >>> build and send a diff in ? >> >>If I recall correctly, the reason the 'nm' command was not committed was >>because it didn't work during cross compiling. I could be wrong, but please >>send me a patch to test for cross compiling before committing. > >It's probably obvious but you could do something like: > >nm=`{i6q86-pc-cygwin-nm --help >/dev/null 2>& 1 && echo i686-pc-cygwin-nm; } || echo nm` ^ nuke the q I just put that there to see if both cases worked or not and forgot to remove it when I pasted the example into my email. cgf >and then use '$nm' in the above. > >Assuming that this was cygwin-specific, of course. > >cgf -- cgf@redhat.com Red Hat, Inc. http://sources.redhat.com/ http://www.redhat.com/ From Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz Wed Nov 14 23:01:00 2001 From: Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz (Pavel.Rybnicek@intax.cz) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 23:01:00 -0000 Subject: Extended keyboard and CDE on AIX4.3 Message-ID: Hi, I have similar problem on the same configuration with cs keyboard. Small difference - when NUMLOCK is ON, keyboard produces output as a ALTGR is permanently pressed. There is workarround - to use the standard keyboard without -xkb extension and after logon run xmodmap. But: I have to run it every time on every machine I use, what is pretty silly. Is there any plan to fix this bug? (if it is bug, but i think so :) Pavel "Fiorenzo Zanotti" To: Sent by: cc: cygwin-xfree-owner@sources. Subject: Extended keyboard and CDE on AIX4.3 redhat.com 14.11.2001 16:05 Hi, I'm getting some problems with extended keyboard (italian) accessing an AIX4.3 with CDE. I'm using now a TEST53 version but the same behavior exist in TEST49. Accessing CDE on AIX 4.3 something weird happen with NUMLOCK : When ON 1) keyboard keys doesn't any visible output 2) numeric keypad keys generates numbers When OFF 1) keyboard keys work OK 2) numeric keypad doesn't produce cursor movements but generates numbers as with NUMLOCK ON In any case ALTGR doesn't work : it generates a Mode_switch keypress event, but no characters are generates. The shortest way I found to make ALTGR work (with my server launched as 'start XWin -query aix -xkbmap it' is : xmodmap -e 'keysym Mode_switch = Alt_R' When using XWin to access a Linux system all work fine !!! What do you think about these different behaviours ? (X11 version ? CDE initialization sequence ? XWin problem ?) Fiorenzo From im@de.uu.net Thu Nov 15 02:02:00 2001 From: im@de.uu.net (Ingolf Markhof) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 02:02:00 -0000 Subject: How to copy&paste? Message-ID: <200111151002.LAA02997@noc14.de.uu.net> Hi! How can I do copy and paste with the mouse? In a cygwin window, I can mark (and thus copy) text with the left mouse button and paste the marked text by pressing the right mouse button. But when I start xfree86 (by 'startx'), I can't copy&paste in xterms this way. Checking the FAQ/Mailing list archive, I found some hints regarding how to simulate a three button mouse by pressing both buttons of a two button mouse at the same time. While this might be a way to to do it, I'd prefer to copy&paste in xterms the same way I do it in cygwin windows, i.e. paste by pressing the right button only. Any hints to get this working? Please resond to my email address, because I am not subscribing to the mailing list. Or do I need to subscribe? My impression was 'no', because as a newbie, I could not answer questions sent by other people like me... BTW: Installation of cygwin was easy. Getting xfree to run was a litte bit tricky. When started with startx (yes, I copied the '.xinitrc'...), I saw the X Desktop for some seconds before X11 quit. - I found that a simple 'xhost +' in my ~/.xinitrc solved the problem. And: I spend _some_ time to find out how to get a german keybord map... A few lines like this # Sampe how to get non-US kepmaps, remove the # and change country id # as required. The example is for a german map: # setxkbmap de in the .xinitrc template would save a lot of time for many people... Regards. Ingolf From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Nov 15 02:45:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 02:45:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc References: <20011115020946.GA2123@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >If I recall correctly, the reason the 'nm' command was not committed was > >because it didn't work during cross compiling. I could be wrong, but please > >send me a patch to test for cross compiling before committing. I'm only doing cross-compiling. On the other Hand, we must make sure that it's also compiling native :) > It's probably obvious but you could do something like: > > nm=`{i6q86-pc-cygwin-nm --help >/dev/null 2>& 1 && echo i686-pc-cygwin-nm; } || echo nm` > > and then use '$nm' in the above. Actually, I added a define NmProg to cygwin.cf and cygwin.rules, where you could configure which nm is used. I think the thread about this patch died because we wanted to check the auto-import feature of ld. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Thu Nov 15 04:59:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 04:59:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc References: <20011115020946.GA2123@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20011115125931.B3692@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:45:03AM +0100, Alexander Gottwald wrote: > Actually, I added a define NmProg to cygwin.cf and cygwin.rules, where > you could configure which nm is used. I think the thread about this > patch died because we wanted to check the auto-import feature of ld. > Alex, Thanks for the nm script, I've run it through and committed the files. I've built it under cygwin and it works fine. If you could test the cross compile - that'd be great. Alan. From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Nov 15 09:42:00 2001 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:42:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc References: <20011115125931.B3692@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Alan Hourihane wrote: > If you could test the cross compile - that'd be great. Everything worked fine except: xterm - no curses xkbcomp - fixed by attached patch The HostCcCmd is for sites, where the compiler is not called cc. But if HostCcCmd is not set, cc is used as Host compiler. The problem for xkbcomp was the line HostLinkRule. The libs parameter was not used bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Nov 15 12:09:00 2001 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 12:09:00 -0000 Subject: new lib XTrap & fontenc References: <20011115125931.B3692@fairlite.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Alan Hourihane wrote: > If you could test the cross compile - that'd be great. I found another Problemn with libGLU in CVS (my local tree was already modified, so I have not noticed the problem) libGLU needs the c++ librarys. But by default, the dll is linked with $(CC) but should with $(CXX). THe attached Patch fixes this. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From spopik@home.com Thu Nov 15 21:46:00 2001 From: spopik@home.com (Stephen Popik) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 21:46:00 -0000 Subject: Missing file Message-ID: >> From: Stephen Popik [ mailto:spopik@home.com < mailto:spopik@home.com > ] >> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:30 PM >> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >> Subject: missing file >> >> I downloaded the Xfree86 binaries. Unfortunately Xmod.tgz is missing >> from >> all the mirror sites I checked. >> Install.sh complains and the install document says Xmod.tgz is a >> required >> file. >> >> Thank you, >> Steve Popik >Tell me where it says in documents you Xmod.tgz is a required file. Here is >the link for User Guide. > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/cygwin-xfree-downloading.html < http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/cygwin-xfree-downloading.html > >Suhaib This is how I tried installing Xfree86: >From the http://xfree86.cygwin.com I went to the primary mirror at ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/xfree < ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/xfree > >From there I stepped down to ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/xfree/xc-4-binaries/4.1.0/ < ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/pub/sourceware/cygwin/xfree/xc-4-binaries/4.1.0/ > I downloaded all the files from there. Install gives instructions and in those instructions is the following. The key word is mandatory. ---------------------------------------- Once you're run the Xinstall.sh script and found which binary distribution is suitable for your system, download the necessary files. The twelve (12) mandatory files for all installations are listed below. If you have not downloaded all of the files, the installer script will complain. 1. Xinstall.sh The installer script 2. extract The utility for extracting tarballs 3. Xbin.tgz X clients/utilities and run-time libraries 4. Xlib.tgz Some data files required at run-time 5. Xman.tgz Manual pages 6. Xdoc.tgz XFree86 documentation 7. Xfnts.tgz Base set of fonts 8. Xfenc.tgz Base set of font encoding data 9. Xetc.tgz Run-time configuration files 10. Xvar.tgz Run-time data 11. Xxserv.tgz XFree86 X server 12. Xmod.tgz XFree86 X server modules -------------------------------------------- File 12 is Xmod.tgz, and Xinstall.sh does complain, because Xmod.tgz is not there. The output from Xinstall.sh follows ============================================ $ ./Xinstall.sh Welcome to the XFree86 4.1.0 installer You are strongly advised to backup your existing XFree86 installation before proceeding. This includes the /usr/X11R6 and /etc/X11 directories. The installation process will overwrite existing files in those directories, and this may include some configuration files that may have been customised. If you are installing a version different from 4.1.0, you may need an updated version of this installer script. Do you wish to continue? (y/n) [n] y Checking which OS you're running... uname: not found uname: not found uname: not found uname: not found uname reports '' version '', architecture ''. chmod: changing permissions of `extract': No such file or directory ln: creating hard link `gnu-tar' to `extract': No such file or directory /tmp/gnu-tar: not found Warning: can't detect the bindist version Checking for required files ... The files: Xmod.tgz must be present in the current directory to proceed with the installation. You should be able to find it at the same place you picked up the rest of the XFree86 binary distribution. Please re-run 'sh ./Xinstall.sh' to proceed with the installation when you have them. ============================================= I followed the link you suggested and I ended up at < ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/mirrors/sources.redhat.com/cygwin/xfree/xc-4-binaries /4.1.0/>. The Install instructions are the same and Xinstall.sh still complains. So I still can't get it installed. Regards, Stephen Popik From freeweb@nyckelpiga.de Fri Nov 16 12:09:00 2001 From: freeweb@nyckelpiga.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:09:00 -0000 Subject: Missing file References: Message-ID: <188114060520.20011116191603@familiehaase.de> Hallo Stephen, 2001-11-16 19:12:08, du schriebst: >> I downloaded the Xfree86 binaries. Unfortunately Xmod.tgz is missing >Tell me where it says in documents you Xmod.tgz is a required file. Here > Install gives instructions and in those instructions is the following. The > key word is mandatory. > ---------------------------------------- > Once you're run the Xinstall.sh script and found which binary distribution > is suitable for your system, download the necessary files. The twelve (12) > mandatory files for all installations are listed below. If you have not > downloaded all of the files, the installer script will complain. > 1. Xinstall.sh The installer script > 2. extract The utility for extracting tarballs > 3. Xbin.tgz X clients/utilities and run-time libraries > 4. Xlib.tgz Some data files required at run-time > 5. Xman.tgz Manual pages > 6. Xdoc.tgz XFree86 documentation > 7. Xfnts.tgz Base set of fonts > 8. Xfenc.tgz Base set of font encoding data > 9. Xetc.tgz Run-time configuration files > 10. Xvar.tgz Run-time data > 11. Xxserv.tgz XFree86 X server > 12. Xmod.tgz XFree86 X server modules > -------------------------------------------- > File 12 is Xmod.tgz, and Xinstall.sh does complain, because Xmod.tgz is not > there. That is true, I read the same in my copy. But how is it possible that I'm running X right now (I installed it with little problems, need to do it twice), but it is up and running, I compiled blackbox, it works. > The output from Xinstall.sh follows > ============================================ ... > $ ./Xinstall.sh > Checking for required files ... > The files: > Xmod.tgz > must be present in the current directory to proceed with the > installation. You should be able to find it at the same place -- convey Information Systems GmbH http://www.convey.de/ Vitalisstra????e 326-328 Gerrit P. 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We strongly suggest you start with Method # 1 and add METHOD # 2 as you go along. For every $5 you receive, all you must do is e-mail them the Report they ordered. That's it. Always provide same day service on all orders. This will guarantee that the e-mail they send out, with your name and address on it, will be prompt because they cannot advertise until they receive the report. =========== AVAILABLE REPORTS ==================== ORDER EACH REPORT BY ITS NUMBER & NAME ONLY. ==================================================== Notes: 1) Always send $5 cash (U.S. CURRENCY only) for each Report. Because of the global coverage of the program, Checks, other currencies or Money Orders can NOT be accepted. (US$ notes you can obtain from your nearest bank/major hotel/money exchanger) 2) Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping it in at least 2 sheets of paper. 3) On one of those sheets of paper, Write: ???????? 1. the NUMBER & the NAME of the Report you are ordering, ???????? 2. 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If you did not, continue advertising or sending e-mails until you do. === Once you have received 100 or more orders for Report # 2, YOU CAN RELAX, because the system is already working for you, and the cash will continue to roll in ! THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: Every time your name is moved down on the list, you are placed in front of a Different report. There is NO LIMIT to the income you can generate from this business !! ! ====================================================== FOLLOWING IS A NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM: You have just received information that can give you financial freedom for the rest of your life, with NO RISK and JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT. You can make more money in the next few weeks and months than you have ever imagined. Follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do Not change it in any way. It works exceedingly well as it is now. Remember to e-mail a copy of this exciting report after you have put your name and address in Report #1 and moved others to #2 ........... # 5 as instructed above. One of the people you send this to may send out 100,000 or more e-mails and your name will be on every one of them. Remember though, the more you send out the more potential customers you will reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials and opportunity to become financially independent. IT IS UP TO YOU NOW ! ============ MORE TESTIMONIALS ================ "My name is Mitchell. My wife, Jody and I live in Chicago. I am an accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and I make pretty good money. When I received this program I grumbled to Jody about receiving ''junk mail''. I made fun of the whole thing, spouting my knowledge of the population and percentages involved. I ''knew'' it wouldn't work. Jody totally ignored my supposed intelligence and few days later she jumped in with both feet. I made merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old ''I told you so'' on her when the thing didn't work. Well, the laugh was on me! Within 3 weeks she had received 50 responses. Within the next 45 days she had received total $ 147,200.00 ........... all cash! I was shocked. I have joined Jody in her ''hobby''. Mitchell Wolf M.D., Chicago, Illinois ====================================================== ''Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my mind to participate in this plan. But conservative that I am, I decided that the initial investment was so little that there was just no way that I wouldn't get enough orders to at least get my money back''. '' I was surprised when I found my medium size post office box crammed with orders. I made $319,210.00 in the first 12 weeks. The nice thing about this deal is that it does not matter where people live. There simply isn't a better investment with a faster return and so big." Dan Sondstrom, Alberta, Canada ======================================================= ''I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later I wondered if I should have given it a try. Of course, I had no idea who to contact to get another copy, so I had to wait until I was e-mailed again by someone else.........11 months passed then it luckily came again...... I did not delete this one! I made more than $490,000 on my first try and all the money came within 22 weeks." Susan De Suza, New York, N.Y. ======================================================= ''It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money with little cost to you. I followed the simple instructions carefully and within 10 days the money started to come in. My first month I made $20,560.00 and by the end of third month my total cash count was $362,840.00. Life is beautiful, Thanks to internet.". Fred Dellaca, Westport, New Zealand ======================================================= ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON 'YOUR' ROAD TO FINANCIAL FREEDOM ! ======================================================= About 50,000 new people get online every month! _______________________________________________________ Under Bill S1618 Title III passed by the 105th US Congress this letter cannot be considered spam as long as the sender includes contact information and a method of removal. This is a one time e-mail transmission. No request for removal is necessary. From nospam01@ghowey.de Sat Nov 17 07:33:00 2001 From: nospam01@ghowey.de (Gregor Howey) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 07:33:00 -0000 Subject: xdmcp with kde crashes Message-ID: Hello, I've some Probs with KDE via xdmcp on win98se on an athlon 1000 256 MB RAM with an 3com 3c90x latest drivers to a suse 7.2 HP-Omnibook. Chooser works fine, desktop loads fine most of the time. After some usage starting progs (kmail) in most cases the XWin-process dies without any comments. The XWin-Versions I tried where the actual release, test-49, test-52 and test-53 they all show the same behaviour. It's independent, if I use the das startup-script or starting XWin from a bash. It also makes no difference, which setting I use for ulimit -n If I use a webbrowser on windows I dont't get any connections. Netscape 4.78 tells: can't locate host or tcp error not enpugh memory if i call netstat with cygwin/xfree it shows me round about 22 active connections. IE says, can't reach dns. Than i removed all preferences Files from KDE (.kde and .kde2), copied back the mail-Prefs. This action lessend the effect, but didn't eleminates it it. Without Mail prefs it'????s the same behaviour. Just before XWin Crashes I've seen refresh Problems of xosview. It didn't redraw if I didn't made any input to Xwin (mouse movement was enough). This effect I've seen one time, will look further for it. A trace file I can't find. Does anybody knows anything about this prob? best regards, Gregor From orlolro@telocity.com Sat Nov 17 17:04:00 2001 From: orlolro@telocity.com (Joseff Betancourt) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:04:00 -0000 Subject: 104 error Message-ID: Hi all. I'm running windows XP Pro and I just finished installing Cygwin/xfree86. When I try to start x up I get: Joseff Betancourt@JOE ~ $ /usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat startxwin.bat - Starting on Windows NT/2000 ddxProcessArgument () ddxProcessArgument () - screen - argc: 5 i: 1 winDetectSupportedEngines () - Windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Allowing PrimaryDD winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDraw4 installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001f winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL () - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pix el winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed () - WindowClient w 1024 h 768 r 1024 l 0 b 768 t 0 winAllocateFBShadowDDNL () - lPitch: 4096 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL () - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 32 winCreateDefColormap () - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap () Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0"X IO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0"XI O: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. Joseff Betancourt@JOE ~ $ I've read through the mailing list but I cant find an answer. I have all firewall software off (XP comes with its own). I have dsl with a static ip address. No DSL or VPN software is needed for my dsl--so none is installed. Please help. I may have found a XP based cygwin bug. But I dont know. --Joseff. ----footer---- Fav. Free Online game: http://infantry.sony.com Check it out. From huntharo@msu.edu Sat Nov 17 18:13:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 18:13:00 -0000 Subject: 104 error Message-ID: Your answer is at: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-error-font-eof Your server is failing to start. The 104 errors are from the X clients that failed to start to because the X Server failed to start. Harold From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Sun Nov 18 00:47:00 2001 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 00:47:00 -0000 Subject: remark to xoncygwin sourceforge project Message-ID: <002101c1700e$5dbb8cf0$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> Hi Harold, currently I have seen you xoncygwin project on sourceforge http://sourceforge.net/projects/xoncygwin/ . Does this project mean xfree86 ? If so it I think it would be good to remove all not needed parts and add a homepage link to xfree.cygwin.com. What do you thinking about this ? Regards Ralf From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Sun Nov 18 00:50:00 2001 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 00:50:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge Message-ID: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> Hi, currently I have found an additional xfree server project on sourcforge http://sourceforge.net/projects/winfree86/ . Whats going on with this ? Are there three different x server developments for cygwin ? Regards Ralf From matthew.donald@motile.net Sun Nov 18 00:58:00 2001 From: matthew.donald@motile.net (Matthew Donald) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 00:58:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <006a01c1700f$288bde80$2102a8c0@motile.net> I'm in the process of setting up winfree86. Winfree86 is a minimal version of Cygwin + xfree86 + other code to provide an x-server for Windows. It removes the requirement to install a full version of Cygwin. Also it pretties up the interface (removes the batch window, integrates the config more closely into Windows) regards Matthew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralf Habacker" To: "Cygwin-Xfree" Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 7:55 PM Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge > Hi, > currently I have found an additional xfree server project on sourcforge > http://sourceforge.net/projects/winfree86/ . > > Whats going on with this ? Are there three different x server developments for > cygwin ? > > Regards > > Ralf > > From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Sun Nov 18 06:18:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 06:18:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin setup packages Message-ID: <01cf01c1703b$dad1f9e0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Well, the new setup has been out for nearly a week now, and apart from a rapidly growing wishlist it looks like it's quite stable. If you folk want to put together packages for the X11 category, now is the time... http://www.cygwin.com/setup.html documents the process and packing format. It should be quite straightforward for you: Simply have the appropriate dependencies in place, and for the X server package have a post install script that contains your current installation script. Rob From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Nov 18 07:11:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:11:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin setup packages Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268319B@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Rob, Sorry, I can't be assistance for several weeks. I had a lot going on in my personal life, including my mother died last week. If Harold or Alan had time to look into it, I would appreciate it, otherwise, it need to wait for at least 3-4 weeks. Sorry Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Collins [ mailto:robert.collins@itdomain.com.au ] > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 9:18 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: cygwin setup packages > > Well, the new setup has been out for nearly a week now, and apart from > a > rapidly growing wishlist it looks like it's quite stable. > > If you folk want to put together packages for the X11 category, now is > the time... > > http://www.cygwin.com/setup.html documents the process and packing > format. It should be quite straightforward for you: Simply have the > appropriate dependencies in place, and for the X server package have a > post install script that contains your current installation script. > > Rob From huntharo@msu.edu Sun Nov 18 07:20:00 2001 From: huntharo@msu.edu (Harold Hunt) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:20:00 -0000 Subject: 104 error Message-ID: Joseff, > ok. Now how do I switch from text mode to binary mode? That part > is escaping > me. Thanx. You start by asking the mailing list, not me personally. Then, you re-read the answer, the *whole* answer, that I gave you before. It has instructions for switching from text mode to binary mode. > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-error-font-eof Harold From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Nov 18 07:28:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:28:00 -0000 Subject: 104 error Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268319C@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Hunt [ mailto:huntharo@msu.edu ] > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 10:21 AM > To: cygx > Subject: RE: 104 error > > Joseff, > > > ok. Now how do I switch from text mode to binary mode? That part > > is escaping > > me. Thanx. > > You start by asking the mailing list, not me personally. > > Then, you re-read the answer, the *whole* answer, that I gave you > before. > It has instructions for switching from text mode to binary mode. > > > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-error- > font-eof > > Harold Or use the attached script from Alexander Suhaib <> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: cygremount.ZIP Type: application/zip Size: 480 bytes Desc: not available URL: From orlolro@telocity.com Sun Nov 18 07:44:00 2001 From: orlolro@telocity.com (Joseff Betancourt) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:44:00 -0000 Subject: window maker compile Message-ID: ok i got out of the problem of starting X. Now I try to configure Windows Maker and I get: Making all in Examples make[2]: Entering directory `/XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs/Examples' /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link gcc -g -O2 -o connect.exe connect.o ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib gcc -g -O2 -o connect.exe connect.o ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a(wapplication.o): In function `WMInitializeApplication': /XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs/wapplication.c:39: undefined reference to `_Xsetlocale' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [connect.exe] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs/Examples' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 bash-2.05a$ Any Ideas? Any precompiled Wmaker files by chance for cygwin? thanx. --Joseff. ----footer---- Fav. Free Online game: http://infantry.sony.com Check it out. From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Nov 18 07:53:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:53:00 -0000 Subject: window maker compile Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268319D@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> `_Xsetlocale is defined in libX11, you need to add it to linker, or correct the order of libraries if it is already there Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseff Betancourt [ mailto:orlolro@telocity.com ] > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 10:45 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: window maker compile > > ok i got out of the problem of starting X. Now I try to configure > Windows > Maker and I get: > > Making all in Examples > make[2]: Entering directory `/XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs/Examples' > /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link gcc -g -O2 -o connect.exe > connect.o > ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib > gcc -g -O2 -o connect.exe connect.o > ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib > ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a(wapplication.o): In function > `WMInitializeApplication': > /XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs/wapplication.c:39: undefined reference > to > `_Xsetlocale' > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make[2]: *** [connect.exe] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs/Examples' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs' > make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > bash-2.05a$ > > Any Ideas? Any precompiled Wmaker files by chance for cygwin? thanx. > --Joseff. > > ----footer---- > Fav. Free Online game: http://infantry.sony.com > Check it out. From o_skvortsova@yahoo.com Sun Nov 18 08:44:00 2001 From: o_skvortsova@yahoo.com (Skvortsova Olga) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:44:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin+XFree86 Message-ID: <20011118164357.15382.qmail@web12006.mail.yahoo.com> To whom it may concern. Hello, I have Windows Me and I've just installed Cygwin on my computer. Now I would like to use X Server as well. What should I do? Should I unistall Cygwin (if yes, then how, I didn't find the file for the deinstallation) or add some additional packages for having XServer available? regards, Skvortsova Olga. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com From cgf@redhat.com Sun Nov 18 11:54:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:54:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <006a01c1700f$288bde80$2102a8c0@motile.net> Message-ID: <20011118183701.GF11499@redhat.com> On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 07:58:13PM +1100, Matthew Donald wrote: >I'm in the process of setting up winfree86. > >Winfree86 is a minimal version of Cygwin + xfree86 + other code to provide >an x-server for Windows. It removes the requirement to install a full >version of Cygwin. Also it pretties up the interface (removes the batch >window, integrates the config more closely into Windows) That is no longer a requirement with cygwin's new version of setup.exe. We routinely ask for volunteers in the cygwin project and I'm sure that the Cygwin XFree86 project would not turn help away. Why start up a separate effort? Did you have great ideas for cygwin's setup or for XFree86 that were brutally shot down? Or, did you decide that the only way to get things done was to essentially fork both projects? cgf From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Nov 18 15:10:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:10:00 -0000 Subject: Cygwin+XFree86 Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C268319E@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Read User Guide at http://xfree86.cygwin.com . You find the mailing list there, but did not find other documents? Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Skvortsova Olga [ mailto:o_skvortsova@yahoo.com ] > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 11:44 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com > Subject: Cygwin+XFree86 > > To whom it may concern. > > Hello, > > I have Windows Me and I've just installed Cygwin on my > computer. Now I would like to use X Server as well. > What should I do? Should I unistall Cygwin (if yes, > then how, I didn't find the file for the > deinstallation) or add some additional packages for > having XServer available? > > regards, > Skvortsova Olga. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals > http://personals.yahoo.com From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Sun Nov 18 15:14:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:14:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831A0@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> I never heard anything about it? I do not understand why a separate project is needed? Due to GPL requirements of Cygwin, your download site wont be small. You will need to host all the source codes. My advice is join the developers list at xgree86.cygwin.com and contribute directly to this project. Forking projects does more harm then good. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Faylor [ mailto:cgf@redhat.com ] > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 1:37 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: seperate xfree project on sourceforge > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 07:58:13PM +1100, Matthew Donald wrote: > >I'm in the process of setting up winfree86. > > > >Winfree86 is a minimal version of Cygwin + xfree86 + other code to > provide > >an x-server for Windows. It removes the requirement to install a > full > >version of Cygwin. Also it pretties up the interface (removes the > batch > >window, integrates the config more closely into Windows) > > That is no longer a requirement with cygwin's new version of > setup.exe. > > We routinely ask for volunteers in the cygwin project and I'm sure > that > the Cygwin XFree86 project would not turn help away. > > Why start up a separate effort? > > Did you have great ideas for cygwin's setup or for XFree86 that were > brutally shot down? Or, did you decide that the only way to get > things > done was to essentially fork both projects? > > cgf From tsurumi@adtx.com Sun Nov 18 19:01:00 2001 From: tsurumi@adtx.com (tsurumi@adtx.com) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:01:00 -0000 Subject: Installation of Xfree86 nder Cygwin Message-ID: <100613885800005c3c@platy.adtx.com> Hi, I have a question.. I installed Cygwin under windows95. And I tried to install Xfree86, but a error occurred... I found "./extract" caused "permission denied". I copyed extract.exe to /bin, and execution of "extract" works well, but "./extract" causes an error of permission. I think it is my basic problem??? I am not so familiar with UNIX. Please advise to me. Best regards,. =========================================================== Makoto Tsurumi ($BDa8+!!bC(B) ADTX-J, Advanced Prod. Development E_mail: tsurumi@adtx.com Tel: +81-45-334-2168 FAX: +81-45-334-2372 =========================================================== From matthew.donald@motile.net Mon Nov 19 00:05:00 2001 From: matthew.donald@motile.net (Matthew Donald) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:05:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <006a01c1700f$288bde80$2102a8c0@motile.net> <20011118183701.GF11499@redhat.com> Message-ID: <036b01c170d1$002c17d0$2102a8c0@motile.net> Hi, I been keeping winfree86 with a very low profile since its still not really ready for release even as alpha code. However since Ralf Habacker stumbled across it, it's time to 'fess up. Winfree86 does not fork either the cygwin or xfree codebase. It is much more akin to a distribution rather than new product. Yes, winfree86 does contain some new code, but I can't see how it can easily be incorporated into the existing project. The problem is that this code is built using proprietary tools. Although winfree86 is GPL'ed, it isn't a clean GPL. Why? Well, integrating xfree into win32 cleanly is going involve COM objects. AFAIK, gcc doesn't support COM (and the thought of doing COM in raw C is pretty revolting). Gcc wont work with MFC or ATL, and anyway both of those involve Microsoft licenses. So that leaves a choice of using a Microsoft/Borland C compiler (do any other C compilers come with a MFC/ATL license?) or using a high-level language such as VB or Delphi. I've chosen Delphi because (a) I've got it and I'm comfortable with it; (b) it's a great prototyping language, and at this stage of winfree86's life I'm doing lots of prototyping. The choice of delphi can and probably will change in the future, probably to C/ATL 'cause mfc is even more bloated than delphi. BTW, I considered c++ builder, but I rejected it (even though starting in C will make later migration lots easier) for two reasons: the version I've got (v3) has COM-related bugs which are very annoying; and starting in delphi will force a *complete* rewrite later, and I'm a great believer in Fred Brooks dictum of 'planning to throw one away'. OK, so what does winfree86 do? Firstly it is a *very* cut down version of cygwin + xfree. The aim is to get its' size down to 3-4mb. Actually, eventually there will probably be two versions of winfree86: a 'slim' version (3-4mb) which only provides an x-server; and a 'full' version (10-16mb) which provides xfree, xvnc, rdesktop (or tsc), telnet (and ssh) and tn3270. So, secondly, winfree86 is not limited to xfree. It will provide other types of desktop connections. The idea is that the user has a folder of remote desktop objects. These could be remote unices (x sever), win32 (rdesktop/tsc), boxen (vnc), routers/appliances (telnet/ssh) or mainframes (tn3270). A user can open the winfree86 folder, double-click on a remote system icon and go directly to the system. They can create a remote desktop by being prompted through a wizard or dialog. They don't have to worry about command line options, getting xfree and ssh working together, the differences between xfree and vnc etc. It will all be dumbed-down and hidden from them. Winfree86 specifically aims to run multiple instances of xfree at the same time. If the user wants to log onto two linux boxes, then they open two separate desktops. There are two user senarios I have in mind: sysadmins who have a who bunch of diverse systems to administer; and users who have an existing win32 boxes who need to access linux or mainframes. Specifically, I'm interested in recycling win95/98 licenses and older hardware, with users accessing an office suite (using wordperfect) through linux. It's an awful lot cheaper to put a high-end server running a 100-user license of wordperfect (about US$16k for the server hardware/software, using existing workstations) instead of 300 new licenses of Office/XP (about US$65k for software plus hardware costs). This is the sort of senario which may well propel linux out onto 'desktops' (the actual workstation will run win32, but the application will run under linux). The whole idea is to have a drop in X product which can be deployed onto workstations, instead of having to license a commercial x-server such as Hummingbird, X-thin/Pro, X-Win32 or even MI/X. The cost of the commercial x-server license kills the economics of having an office-suite server with win32 clients (the senario would still work with a linux thin-client, but most organisations are reluctant to move away from win32 on the desktop; got to get them to move one step at a time...). If you look at http://winfree86.sourceforge.net/images/screen.jpg , you can see a screenshot of winfree86. It shows the winfree86 folder with two remote desktops (my two linux servers) with a connection to 'alan' open in the background. The output from xfree has been intercepted (xfree runs as a child process of winfree86, which captures the output through a pipe) and is shown in a separate dialog box. This is usually hidden and can be popped-up using an icon in the tool-tray. Keen-eyed readers will notice that xwinclip has failed with 'Could not open display'. Functionally, this is as far as I've got. I've been bogged down in pruning the file tree trying to get the size down to 3-4mb. Testing this has been a bitch since it involves constant install/uninstall cycles. I've got a Lenten Reborn card on order. When it arrives life will be much easier :-) Rasjid Wilcox had a very similar idea to winfree86 named winxterm (see http://lasp.sourceforge.net/winxterm/ ). He has already produced a minimal cygwin + xfree of about 4mb. If we can integrate the two projects winfree86 (or whatever its called) will be available much sooner. I hope I explained why winfree86 exists, and why it doesn't really fit into the existing xfree-cygwin project. cheers Matthew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Faylor" To: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 5:37 AM Subject: Re: seperate xfree project on sourceforge > On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 07:58:13PM +1100, Matthew Donald wrote: > >I'm in the process of setting up winfree86. > > > >Winfree86 is a minimal version of Cygwin + xfree86 + other code to provide > >an x-server for Windows. It removes the requirement to install a full > >version of Cygwin. Also it pretties up the interface (removes the batch > >window, integrates the config more closely into Windows) > > That is no longer a requirement with cygwin's new version of setup.exe. > > We routinely ask for volunteers in the cygwin project and I'm sure that > the Cygwin XFree86 project would not turn help away. > > Why start up a separate effort? > > Did you have great ideas for cygwin's setup or for XFree86 that were > brutally shot down? Or, did you decide that the only way to get things > done was to essentially fork both projects? > > cgf > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" To: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 10:13 AM Subject: RE: seperate xfree project on sourceforge > I never heard anything about it? I do not understand why a separate project > is needed? Due to GPL requirements of Cygwin, your download site wont be > small. You will need to host all the source codes. My advice is join the > developers list at xgree86.cygwin.com and contribute directly to this > project. Forking projects does more harm then good. > > Suhaib From mark.baxter@4tsolutions.se Mon Nov 19 01:03:00 2001 From: mark.baxter@4tsolutions.se (mark.baxter@4tsolutions.se) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:03:00 -0000 Subject: window maker compile Message-ID: Personally I got round this by configuring with --disable-locale. NOw my problem is that I have just upgraded and found all those BASH problems (colours not working) with rxvt that people were having last week but I ignored ..... /MB |--------+-------------------------------------> | | "Joseff Betancourt" | | | | | | | | | Sent by: | | | cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.| | | redhat.com | | | | | | | | | 18/11/01 16:44 | | | | |--------+-------------------------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: | | cc: | | Subject: window maker compile | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| ok i got out of the problem of starting X. Now I try to configure Windows Maker and I get: Making all in Examples make[2]: Entering directory `/XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs/Examples' /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link gcc -g -O2 -o connect.exe connect.o ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib gcc -g -O2 -o connect.exe connect.o ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib ../../WINGs/libWUtil.a(wapplication.o): In function `WMInitializeApplication': /XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs/wapplication.c:39: undefined reference to `_Xsetlocale' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [connect.exe] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs/Examples' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/XF86/WindowMaker-0.70.0/WINGs' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 bash-2.05a$ Any Ideas? Any precompiled Wmaker files by chance for cygwin? thanx. --Joseff. ----footer---- Fav. Free Online game: http://infantry.sony.com Check it out. From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Mon Nov 19 01:08:00 2001 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:08:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge References: <036b01c170d1$002c17d0$2102a8c0@motile.net> Message-ID: <004901c170da$6366afa0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> > -----Urspr????ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com > [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com]Im Auftrag von Matthew > Donald > Gesendet am: Montag, 19. November 2001 09:06 > An: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Cc: Rasjid Wilcox; Suhaib Siddiqi; Christopher Faylor > Betreff: Re: seperate xfree project on sourceforge > > Hi, > > I been keeping winfree86 with a very low profile since its still not really > ready for release even as alpha code. However since Ralf Habacker stumbled > across it, it's time to 'fess up. > > Winfree86 does not fork either the cygwin or xfree codebase. It is much > more akin to a distribution rather than new product. > > Yes, winfree86 does contain some new code, but I can't see how it can easily > be incorporated into the existing project. The problem is that this code is > built using proprietary tools. Although winfree86 is GPL'ed, it isn't a > clean GPL. > > Why? Well, integrating xfree into win32 cleanly is going involve COM > objects. AFAIK, gcc doesn't support COM (and the thought of doing COM in > raw C is pretty revolting). Relates the problem to the missing msvc c++ support of g++ ? > Gcc wont work with MFC or ATL, and anyway both > of those involve Microsoft licenses. So that leaves a choice of using a > Microsoft/Borland C compiler (do any other C compilers come with a MFC/ATL > license?) or using a high-level language such as VB or Delphi. > > I've chosen Delphi because (a) I've got it and I'm comfortable with it; (b) > it's a great prototyping language, and at this stage of winfree86's life I'm > doing lots of prototyping. The choice of delphi can and probably will > change in the future, probably to C/ATL 'cause mfc is even more bloated than > delphi. BTW, I considered c++ builder, but I rejected it (even though > starting in C will make later migration lots easier) for two reasons: the > version I've got (v3) has COM-related bugs which are very annoying; and > starting in delphi will force a *complete* rewrite later, and I'm a great > believer in Fred Brooks dictum of 'planning to throw one away'. > > OK, so what does winfree86 do? > > Firstly it is a *very* cut down version of cygwin + xfree. The aim is to > get its' size down to 3-4mb. Actually, eventually there will probably be > two versions of winfree86: a 'slim' version (3-4mb) which only provides an > x-server; and a 'full' version (10-16mb) which provides xfree, xvnc, > rdesktop (or tsc), telnet (and ssh) and tn3270. > > So, secondly, winfree86 is not limited to xfree. It will provide other > types of desktop connections. The idea is that the user has a folder of > remote desktop objects. These could be remote unices (x sever), win32 > (rdesktop/tsc), boxen (vnc), routers/appliances (telnet/ssh) or mainframes > (tn3270). A user can open the winfree86 folder, double-click on a remote > system icon and go directly to the system. They can create a remote desktop > by being prompted through a wizard or dialog. They don't have to worry > about command line options, getting xfree and ssh working together, the > differences between xfree and vnc etc. It will all be dumbed-down and > hidden from them. > > Winfree86 specifically aims to run multiple instances of xfree at the same > time. If the user wants to log onto two linux boxes, then they open two > separate desktops. > > There are two user senarios I have in mind: sysadmins who have a who bunch > of diverse systems to administer; and users who have an existing win32 boxes > who need to access linux or mainframes. Specifically, I'm interested in > recycling win95/98 licenses and older hardware, with users accessing an > office suite (using wordperfect) through linux. It's an awful lot cheaper > to put a high-end server running a 100-user license of wordperfect (about > US$16k for the server hardware/software, using existing workstations) > instead of 300 new licenses of Office/XP (about US$65k for software plus > hardware costs). This is the sort of senario which may well propel linux > out onto 'desktops' (the actual workstation will run win32, but the > application will run under linux). > > The whole idea is to have a drop in X product which can be deployed onto > workstations, instead of having to license a commercial x-server such as > Hummingbird, X-thin/Pro, X-Win32 or even MI/X. The cost of the commercial > x-server license kills the economics of having an office-suite server with > win32 clients (the senario would still work with a linux thin-client, but > most organisations are reluctant to move away from win32 on the desktop; got > to get them to move one step at a time...). > > If you look at http://winfree86.sourceforge.net/images/screen.jpg , you can > see a screenshot of winfree86. It shows the winfree86 folder with two > remote desktops (my two linux servers) with a connection to 'alan' open in > the background. The output from xfree has been intercepted (xfree runs as a > child process of winfree86, which captures the output through a pipe) and is > shown in a separate dialog box. This is usually hidden and can be popped-up > using an icon in the tool-tray. Keen-eyed readers will notice that xwinclip > has failed with 'Could not open display'. > > Functionally, this is as far as I've got. I've been bogged down in pruning > the file tree trying to get the size down to 3-4mb. Testing this has been a > bitch since it involves constant install/uninstall cycles. I've got a > Lenten Reborn card on order. When it arrives life will be much easier :-) > > Rasjid Wilcox had a very similar idea to winfree86 named winxterm (see > http://lasp.sourceforge.net/winxterm/ ). He has already produced a minimal > cygwin + xfree of about 4mb. If we can integrate the two projects winfree86 > (or whatever its called) will be available much sooner. > > I hope I explained why winfree86 exists, and why it doesn't really fit into > the existing xfree-cygwin project. > > cheers Matthew > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher Faylor" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 5:37 AM > Subject: Re: seperate xfree project on sourceforge > > > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 07:58:13PM +1100, Matthew Donald wrote: > > >I'm in the process of setting up winfree86. > > > > > >Winfree86 is a minimal version of Cygwin + xfree86 + other code to > provide > > >an x-server for Windows. It removes the requirement to install a full > > >version of Cygwin. Also it pretties up the interface (removes the batch > > >window, integrates the config more closely into Windows) > > > > That is no longer a requirement with cygwin's new version of setup.exe. > > > > We routinely ask for volunteers in the cygwin project and I'm sure that > > the Cygwin XFree86 project would not turn help away. > > > > Why start up a separate effort? > > > > Did you have great ideas for cygwin's setup or for XFree86 that were > > brutally shot down? Or, did you decide that the only way to get things > > done was to essentially fork both projects? > > > > cgf > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suhaib Siddiqi" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 10:13 AM > Subject: RE: seperate xfree project on sourceforge > > > > I never heard anything about it? I do not understand why a separate > project > > is needed? Due to GPL requirements of Cygwin, your download site wont be > > small. You will need to host all the source codes. My advice is join the > > developers list at xgree86.cygwin.com and contribute directly to this > > project. Forking projects does more harm then good. > > > > Suhaib > > From matthew.donald@motile.net Mon Nov 19 02:42:00 2001 From: matthew.donald@motile.net (Matthew Donald) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:42:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge References: <004901c170da$6366afa0$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Message-ID: <03a301c170e6$dc4b5cc0$2102a8c0@motile.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralf Habacker" To: "Cygwin-Xfree" Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 8:13 PM Subject: RE: seperate xfree project on sourceforge > > Why? Well, integrating xfree into win32 cleanly is going involve COM > > objects. AFAIK, gcc doesn't support COM (and the thought of doing COM in > > raw C is pretty revolting). > > Relates the problem to the missing msvc c++ support of g++ ? Gcc won't compile the MFC headers. Msvc c++ has some special language features (embrace and extend :-) required for compiling them. I think the features modify how the VMT is generated, but I'm not sure. cheers Matthew From Edward.T.Quick@BritishAirways.com Mon Nov 19 05:14:00 2001 From: Edward.T.Quick@BritishAirways.com (Quick, Edward T) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 05:14:00 -0000 Subject: running xfree86 as a user instead of admin Message-ID: <045B83BF8FDE4017*/c=GB/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=BA/o=British> Hi, I have XFree running on W2K and it is fine for me when I'm logged in as Admin but if I log in as a User it won't run. I have a feeling the answer is to set owner of xinit to root but as I'm using cygwin I don't think this is possible is it? I'd appreciate any help. Thanks. PS: Please could you copy any replies to me directly as I haven't subscribed to the user's list. Thanks. This is what I get when I try to run X: bash-2.05$ ./xinit ddxProcessArgument () _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root _XSERVTransSocketCreateListener: failed to bind listener _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to create listener for local Fatal server error: Failed to establish all listening sockets giving up. ./xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server ./xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. bash-2.05$ From cgf@redhat.com Mon Nov 19 11:02:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:02:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <006a01c1700f$288bde80$2102a8c0@motile.net> <20011118183701.GF11499@redhat.com> <036b01c170d1$002c17d0$2102a8c0@motile.net> Message-ID: <20011119190300.GB1441@redhat.com> On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:05:47PM +1100, Matthew Donald wrote: >Hi, > >I been keeping winfree86 with a very low profile since its still not really >ready for release even as alpha code. However since Ralf Habacker stumbled >across it, it's time to 'fess up. > >Winfree86 does not fork either the cygwin or xfree codebase. It is much >more akin to a distribution rather than new product. > >Yes, winfree86 does contain some new code, but I can't see how it can easily >be incorporated into the existing project. The problem is that this code is >built using proprietary tools. Although winfree86 is GPL'ed, it isn't a >clean GPL. > >Why? Well, integrating xfree into win32 cleanly is going involve COM >objects. AFAIK, gcc doesn't support COM (and the thought of doing COM in >raw C is pretty revolting). Gcc wont work with MFC or ATL, and anyway both >of those involve Microsoft licenses. So that leaves a choice of using a >Microsoft/Borland C compiler (do any other C compilers come with a MFC/ATL >license?) or using a high-level language such as VB or Delphi. So, it sounds like you have some immediate licensing issues that could cause this project to be stillborn. How are you going to work around the fact that cygwin requires open source? >Rasjid Wilcox had a very similar idea to winfree86 named winxterm (see > http://lasp.sourceforge.net/winxterm/ ). He has already produced a minimal >cygwin + xfree of about 4mb. If we can integrate the two projects winfree86 >(or whatever its called) will be available much sooner. This sounds like YA ill-conceived fork. And, oh joy, oh rapture, it is also YA GPL violation. I've Cc'ed Rasjid. Rasjid -- you need to provide the sources for the binary packages that you are providing, in compliance with the GPL. Just providing a link to cygwin.com is not sufficient. cgf From matthew.donald@motile.net Mon Nov 19 11:49:00 2001 From: matthew.donald@motile.net (Matthew Donald) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:49:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <006a01c1700f$288bde80$2102a8c0@motile.net> <20011118183701.GF11499@redhat.com> <036b01c170d1$002c17d0$2102a8c0@motile.net> <20011119190300.GB1441@redhat.com> Message-ID: <03ee01c17133$546c9ec0$2102a8c0@motile.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Faylor" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 6:03 AM Subject: Re: seperate xfree project on sourceforge > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:05:47PM +1100, Matthew Donald wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I been keeping winfree86 with a very low profile since its still not really > >ready for release even as alpha code. However since Ralf Habacker stumbled > >across it, it's time to 'fess up. > > > >Winfree86 does not fork either the cygwin or xfree codebase. It is much > >more akin to a distribution rather than new product. > > > >Yes, winfree86 does contain some new code, but I can't see how it can easily > >be incorporated into the existing project. The problem is that this code is > >built using proprietary tools. Although winfree86 is GPL'ed, it isn't a > >clean GPL. > > > >Why? Well, integrating xfree into win32 cleanly is going involve COM > >objects. AFAIK, gcc doesn't support COM (and the thought of doing COM in > >raw C is pretty revolting). Gcc wont work with MFC or ATL, and anyway both > >of those involve Microsoft licenses. So that leaves a choice of using a > >Microsoft/Borland C compiler (do any other C compilers come with a MFC/ATL > >license?) or using a high-level language such as VB or Delphi. > > So, it sounds like you have some immediate licensing issues that could > cause this project to be stillborn. How are you going to work around > the fact that cygwin requires open source? Cygwin only requires the project source to be available. GPL does not require compiler source to be available (unless the compiler as opposed to the project is subject to GPL). As I made clear in my previous post, there are no suitable open source tools available to code COM objects (unless someone is going to make a MFC or ATL clone for gcc available RSN :-) > >Rasjid Wilcox had a very similar idea to winfree86 named winxterm (see > > http://lasp.sourceforge.net/winxterm/ ). He has already produced a minimal > >cygwin + xfree of about 4mb. If we can integrate the two projects winfree86 > >(or whatever its called) will be available much sooner. > > This sounds like YA ill-conceived fork. And, oh joy, oh rapture, it is also > YA GPL violation. > > I've Cc'ed Rasjid. Rasjid -- you need to provide the sources for the > binary packages that you are providing, in compliance with the GPL. Just > providing a link to cygwin.com is not sufficient. > Yes the source code will be made available. Please keep your flames to yourself. Don't you have real problems to worry about? Matthew From cgf@redhat.com Mon Nov 19 12:26:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:26:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <006a01c1700f$288bde80$2102a8c0@motile.net> <20011118183701.GF11499@redhat.com> <036b01c170d1$002c17d0$2102a8c0@motile.net> <20011119190300.GB1441@redhat.com> <03ee01c17133$546c9ec0$2102a8c0@motile.net> Message-ID: <20011119200554.GA6062@redhat.com> On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 06:49:40AM +1100, Matthew Donald wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Christopher Faylor" >To: >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 6:03 AM >Subject: Re: seperate xfree project on sourceforge > >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:05:47PM +1100, Matthew Donald wrote: >>>Why? Well, integrating xfree into win32 cleanly is going involve COM >>>objects. AFAIK, gcc doesn't support COM (and the thought of doing COM >>>in raw C is pretty revolting). Gcc wont work with MFC or ATL, and >>>anyway both of those involve Microsoft licenses. So that leaves a >>>choice of using a Microsoft/Borland C compiler (do any other C >>>compilers come with a MFC/ATL license?) or using a high-level language >>>such as VB or Delphi. >> >>So, it sounds like you have some immediate licensing issues that could >>cause this project to be stillborn. How are you going to work around >>the fact that cygwin requires open source? > >Cygwin only requires the project source to be available. GPL does not >require compiler source to be available (unless the compiler as opposed >to the project is subject to GPL). As I made clear in my previous >post, there are no suitable open source tools available to code COM >objects (unless someone is going to make a MFC or ATL clone for gcc >available RSN :-) As long as any proprietary libraries that are linked into the end product are common to the OS (i.e., Windows) and the sources are available for everything else, you should be ok. If this requires additional libraries that are not part of the OS, then you can't do this. For some reason, I thought this was the case here. Apparently I was mistaken. >>>Rasjid Wilcox had a very similar idea to winfree86 named winxterm (see >>> http://lasp.sourceforge.net/winxterm/ ). He has already produced a >>>minimal cygwin + xfree of about 4mb. If we can integrate the two >>>projects winfree86 (or whatever its called) will be available much >>>sooner. >> >>This sounds like YA ill-conceived fork. And, oh joy, oh rapture, it is >>also YA GPL violation. >> >>I've Cc'ed Rasjid. Rasjid -- you need to provide the sources for the >>binary packages that you are providing, in compliance with the GPL. >>Just providing a link to cygwin.com is not sufficient. > >Yes the source code will be made available. > >Please keep your flames to yourself. Don't you have real problems to >worry about? I worry about people providing old versions of cygwin, which you will be doing. I also worry about people not adequately understanding the GPL. You apparently think that I should just "trust" you but experience has shown that you can't trust anyone to understand the GPL. cgf From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Mon Nov 19 14:15:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:15:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <006a01c1700f$288bde80$2102a8c0@motile.net> <20011118183701.GF11499@redhat.com> <036b01c170d1$002c17d0$2102a8c0@motile.net> <20011119190300.GB1441@redhat.com> <03ee01c17133$546c9ec0$2102a8c0@motile.net> <20011119200554.GA6062@redhat.com> Message-ID: <036401c17147$ac4f7630$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- > On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 06:49:40AM +1100, Matthew Donald wrote: > >>So, it sounds like you have some immediate licensing issues that could > >>cause this project to be stillborn. How are you going to work around > >>the fact that cygwin requires open source? > > > >Cygwin only requires the project source to be available. GPL does not > >require compiler source to be available (unless the compiler as opposed > >to the project is subject to GPL). As I made clear in my previous > >post, there are no suitable open source tools available to code COM > >objects (unless someone is going to make a MFC or ATL clone for gcc > >available RSN :-) They are RN. There is a little porting needed, but not much. Some lists that may be of interest: wine, mingw, reactos. (Why reactos you say? Well they have been very active in adding compatability support to gcc because of their goal - binary compatability with NT. This support includes fastcall linking and fixes to windres amongst other older things). Rob From mwelch@ontarioeast.net Mon Nov 19 14:17:00 2001 From: mwelch@ontarioeast.net (Mo Welch) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:17:00 -0000 Subject: Installing XFree86 Message-ID: <3BF98417.7FF928FF@ontarioeast.net> Sirs: I'm a total newbie; but seems to me if I need to use bunzip2 to install XFree86 then should there not be a copy of bunzip2 in the Cygwin distro - or somewhere in the XFree86 distro? In the downloads I have there is no such utility. Where can I get this package? Thank you. Mo Welch, mwelch@ontarioeast.net From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Mon Nov 19 14:25:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:25:00 -0000 Subject: Installing XFree86 References: <3BF98417.7FF928FF@ontarioeast.net> Message-ID: <03a201c17149$0cbdc840$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> The bzip2 package in the cygwin distro. Rob === ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mo Welch" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 9:13 AM Subject: Installing XFree86 > Sirs: > I'm a total newbie; but seems to me if I need to use bunzip2 to > install XFree86 > then should there not be a copy of bunzip2 in the Cygwin distro - or > somewhere > in the XFree86 distro? In the downloads I have there is no such > utility. Where > can I get this package? > Thank you. > Mo Welch, > mwelch@ontarioeast.net > > From orlolro@telocity.com Mon Nov 19 18:55:00 2001 From: orlolro@telocity.com (Joseff Betancourt) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:55:00 -0000 Subject: window maker Message-ID: seems cygwin doesn't like spaces ithe name. I got windowmaker compiled but... when I do the wmaker.inst it doesn't fix it. this is the bottom portion of the error. WINGs error: could not open domain file /home/Joseff Betancourt/GNUstep/Default s/WindowMaker for reading: No such file or directory WINGs error: mkstemp (/home/Joseff Betancourt/GNUstep/Defaults) failed: No such file or directory Installation Finished /usr/local/bin/wmaker warning: /home/Joseff Betancourt/GNUstep/Defaults/ direct ory created with default configuration. /usr/local/bin/wmaker fatal error: could not open display "127.0.0.1:0.0" Seems it cant access the folder /home/Joseff Betancourt cause of the space (right?). How do change my home dir to point to /home/Joseff? Thanx $ --Joseff. ----footer---- Fav. Free Online game: http://infantry.sony.com Check it out. From rasjidw@bigpond.com Tue Nov 20 00:24:00 2001 From: rasjidw@bigpond.com (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:24:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <036b01c170d1$002c17d0$2102a8c0@motile.net> <20011119190300.GB1441@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:03, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >Rasjid Wilcox had a very similar idea to winfree86 named winxterm (see > > http://lasp.sourceforge.net/winxterm/ ). He has already produced a > > minimal cygwin + xfree of about 4mb. If we can integrate the two > > projects winfree86 (or whatever its called) will be available much > > sooner. > > This sounds like YA ill-conceived fork. And, oh joy, oh rapture, it is > also YA GPL violation. > > I've Cc'ed Rasjid. Rasjid -- you need to provide the sources for the > binary packages that you are providing, in compliance with the GPL. Just > providing a link to cygwin.com is not sufficient. > By all means enlighten me about the GPL. On the 24 and 25 August 01, I posted to the list asking about GPL issues etc, and got no reply. (Well, in one email I asked about 'formalities', but what I meant was "Is what I've done okay? Who should I talk to? Please help me I've never put any open source stuff on the web before?". In the other I mentioned the GPL. Both were titled "Screen numbers", which makes sense when you read them.) I provided a link to my project so that people could have a look and inform me of what I needed to do, whether it was already being done or how it might be integrated with the main project. At the time I had only been on the list for 4 days, and was very new to the whole thing. On the whole I still am, so I'm sorry if I've broken some rules. It certainly was with no ill intent. The next step in my project was to remove the need for me to host any binaries anyway, and just to have a script the grabs the minimal set of required files from the cygwin-xfree mirrors. My guess is that the new setup.exe for Cygwin (perhaps with a very minimal amount of tweaking) would be able to do that too, in which case I don't have to do anything! (Except presumably take down the binaries.) If people are interesed, I'm more than happy to explain exactly what I want to achieve, why, and how it could be integrated with the main project. Rasjid. From jccura@laas.fr Tue Nov 20 02:10:00 2001 From: jccura@laas.fr (Jean-Christophe) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:10:00 -0000 Subject: inttypes.h for XMPS... Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20011120111011.00af34f0@popdisco.laas.fr> Hello ! i have a question about inttypes.h..... i have installed Cygwin on Windows2000, and now i'im trying to install XMPS (compiling it) who need this header... If you can tell me what is the package who generaly put this haeder, it will be good !! thanks.... ___________________ Jean-Christophe CURA LAAS-CNRS 7, avenue du Colonel Roche 31077 Toulouse Cedex 4 Tel: 05.61.33.69.19 http://www.laas.fr/ ___________________ From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Nov 20 03:41:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:41:00 -0000 Subject: window maker Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831A5@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseff Betancourt [ mailto:orlolro@telocity.com ] > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 9:55 PM > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com > Subject: window maker > > > seems cygwin doesn't like spaces ithe name. No, it does, neither any UNIX. Only Microsoft likes spaces, stars and moons Suhaib > I got windowmaker compiled but... > > when I do the wmaker.inst it doesn't fix it. > this is the bottom portion of the error. > > WINGs error: could not open domain file /home/Joseff > Betancourt/GNUstep/Default s/WindowMaker for reading: No such > file or directory WINGs error: mkstemp (/home/Joseff > Betancourt/GNUstep/Defaults) failed: No such file or directory > > Installation Finished > /usr/local/bin/wmaker warning: /home/Joseff > Betancourt/GNUstep/Defaults/ direct ory created with default > configuration. /usr/local/bin/wmaker fatal error: could not > open display "127.0.0.1:0.0" > > Seems it cant access the folder /home/Joseff Betancourt cause > of the space (right?). How do change my home dir to point to > /home/Joseff? > > Thanx $ > > --Joseff. > > ----footer---- > Fav. Free Online game: http://infantry.sony.com > Check it out. > From alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Tue Nov 20 03:48:00 2001 From: alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:48:00 -0000 Subject: window maker References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831A5@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > Joseff Betancourt wrote: > > seems cygwin doesn't like spaces ithe name. > > No, it does, neither any UNIX. Only Microsoft likes spaces, stars and moons Windows doesn't either. But most users do not use the shell very often. And then they realize, why it's bad to have spaces in directories. But, on the other hand, a script which assumes the path does not contain spaces is not correct. When I've got some time (around christmas or so), I'll take a look to the install script and fix this. bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Nov 20 03:52:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:52:00 -0000 Subject: window maker Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831A6@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Alexander Gottwald > [ mailto:alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de ] > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 6:49 AM > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: RE: window maker > > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > Joseff Betancourt wrote: > > > seems cygwin doesn't like spaces ithe name. > > > > No, it does, neither any UNIX. Only Microsoft likes > spaces, stars and > > moons > > Windows doesn't either. But most users do not use the shell > very often. > And then they realize, why it's bad to have spaces in directories. I was refering to normal users. I am aware that MSDN does not recommend installing Visual Studio in directories with spaces in names. > > But, on the other hand, a script which assumes the path does > not contain spaces is not correct. When I've got some time > (around christmas or so), I'll take a look to the install > script and fix this. > Cool, thanx Suhaib > bye > ago > -- > Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de > http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 > phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 > From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Tue Nov 20 04:12:00 2001 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:12:00 -0000 Subject: window maker References: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831A6@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> Message-ID: <20011120131223.B18450@cygbert.vinschen.de> On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 06:51:58AM -0500, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alexander Gottwald > > [ mailto:alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de ] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 6:49 AM > > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > Subject: RE: window maker > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > Joseff Betancourt wrote: > > > > seems cygwin doesn't like spaces ithe name. > > > > > > No, it does, neither any UNIX. Only Microsoft likes > > spaces, stars and > > > moons > > > > Windows doesn't either. But most users do not use the shell > > very often. > > And then they realize, why it's bad to have spaces in directories. > > I was refering to normal users. I am aware that MSDN does not recommend > installing Visual Studio in directories with spaces in names. Funny, that is. AFAIR the default install path for Visual Studio is "X:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio" on english language OSes. Space'o'mania... Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developer mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com Red Hat, Inc. From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Tue Nov 20 04:17:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:17:00 -0000 Subject: window maker Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831A7@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Corinna Vinschen [ mailto:cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com ] > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 7:12 AM > To: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > Subject: Re: window maker > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 06:51:58AM -0500, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Alexander Gottwald > > > [ mailto:alexander.gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de ] > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 6:49 AM > > > Cc: 'cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com' > > > Subject: RE: window maker > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Suhaib Siddiqi wrote: > > > > Joseff Betancourt wrote: > > > > > seems cygwin doesn't like spaces ithe name. > > > > > > > > No, it does, neither any UNIX. Only Microsoft likes > > > spaces, stars and > > > > moons > > > > > > Windows doesn't either. But most users do not use the shell > > > very often. > > > And then they realize, why it's bad to have spaces in directories. > > > > I was refering to normal users. I am aware that MSDN does not > > recommend installing Visual Studio in directories with spaces in > > names. > > Funny, that is. AFAIR the default install path for Visual Studio is > > "X:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio" > > on english language OSes. Space'o'mania... I know :-) Long time ago, I had often run into problems with default path... one day I was digging into MSDN CD's and saw a small note somewhere "install in c:\msddk" for example... Suhaib > > Corinna > > -- > Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails > regarding Cygwin to > Cygwin Developer > mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com > Red Hat, Inc. > From briangenisio@yahoo.com Tue Nov 20 04:58:00 2001 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:58:00 -0000 Subject: libXmu fails to build? Message-ID: <20011120125813.26822.qmail@web20803.mail.yahoo.com> Hey all, I downloaded the lates CVS last night, and did a build. I found that libXmu failed to build... with the following error : CvtStdSel.c: In function `XmuConvertStandardSelection': CvtStdSel.c:227: `hparams' undeclared (first use in this function) CvtStdSel.c:227: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once CvtStdSel.c:227: for each function it appears in.) make[4]: *** [CvtStdSel.o] Error 1 I took a look, and found the following block of code : #ifdef XTHREADS_NEEDS_BYNAMEPARAMS _Xgethostbynameparams hparams; #endif struct hostent *hostp; hostname[0] = '\0'; (void) XmuGetHostname (hostname, sizeof hostname); if ((hostp = _XGethostbyname (hostname,hparams)) == NULL) return False; When I remove the XTHREADS_NEEDS_BYNAMEPARAMS define, it compiles. Is this an error in the CVS tree? Brian __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From cgf@redhat.com Tue Nov 20 11:23:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:23:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <036b01c170d1$002c17d0$2102a8c0@motile.net> <20011119190300.GB1441@redhat.com> <200111200824.fAK8Ouw17375@mail.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20011120182626.GA11848@redhat.com> On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 07:25:17PM +1100, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: >On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:03, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> >Rasjid Wilcox had a very similar idea to winfree86 named winxterm (see >> > http://lasp.sourceforge.net/winxterm/ ). He has already produced a >> > minimal cygwin + xfree of about 4mb. If we can integrate the two >> > projects winfree86 (or whatever its called) will be available much >> > sooner. >> >> This sounds like YA ill-conceived fork. And, oh joy, oh rapture, it is >> also YA GPL violation. >> >> I've Cc'ed Rasjid. Rasjid -- you need to provide the sources for the >> binary packages that you are providing, in compliance with the GPL. Just >> providing a link to cygwin.com is not sufficient. >> > >By all means enlighten me about the GPL. On the 24 and 25 August 01, I >posted to the list asking about GPL issues etc, and got no reply. >(Well, in one email I asked about 'formalities', but what I meant was >"Is what I've done okay? Who should I talk to? Please help me I've >never put any open source stuff on the web before?". In the other I >mentioned the GPL. Both were titled "Screen numbers", which makes >sense when you read them.) I provided a link to my project so that >people could have a look and inform me of what I needed to do, whether >it was already being done or how it might be integrated with the main >project. > >At the time I had only been on the list for 4 days, and was very new to >the whole thing. On the whole I still am, so I'm sorry if I've broken >some rules. It certainly was with no ill intent. I doubt that anyone who is performing a community service like putting up a web page ever has any ill intent. I have, however, communicated with a great number of people who are confused about the GPL and take it personally when they are contacted regarding it. I appreciate very much that you are interested in doing things the right way. I'm not sure how I missed your original mail. Bottom line: if you have no binaries on your page, then there is no need to provide sources. If you do have binaries on your page then the simplest way to be compliant with the GPL is to provide the corresponding sources. >The next step in my project was to remove the need for me to host any >binaries anyway, and just to have a script the grabs the minimal set of >required files from the cygwin-xfree mirrors. My guess is that the new >setup.exe for Cygwin (perhaps with a very minimal amount of tweaking) >would be able to do that too, in which case I don't have to do >anything! (Except presumably take down the binaries.) Yes. One of the primary goals of the new version of setup.exe was to allow XFree86 to be installed as a cygwin package. You can design a setup.ini which downloads as little or as much as you want. Or, just wait for XFree86 to show up as a package. cgf From rasjidw@bigpond.com Wed Nov 21 01:26:00 2001 From: rasjidw@bigpond.com (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:26:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <200111200824.fAK8Ouw17375@mail.redhat.com> <20011120182626.GA11848@redhat.com> Message-ID: <96c5b93787f6a8c62cfa9c85e821983e@NO-ID-FOUND.mhonarc.org> On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 05:26, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 07:25:17PM +1100, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: > >On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:03, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >> >Rasjid Wilcox had a very similar idea to winfree86 named winxterm (see > >> > http://lasp.sourceforge.net/winxterm/ ). He has already produced a > >> > minimal cygwin + xfree of about 4mb. If we can integrate the two > >> > projects winfree86 (or whatever its called) will be available much > >> > sooner. > >> > >> This sounds like YA ill-conceived fork. And, oh joy, oh rapture, it is > >> also YA GPL violation. > >> > >> I've Cc'ed Rasjid. Rasjid -- you need to provide the sources for the > >> binary packages that you are providing, in compliance with the GPL. > >> Just providing a link to cygwin.com is not sufficient. > > > >By all means enlighten me about the GPL. On the 24 and 25 August 01, I > >posted to the list asking about GPL issues etc, and got no reply. > >(Well, in one email I asked about 'formalities', but what I meant was > >"Is what I've done okay? Who should I talk to? Please help me I've > >never put any open source stuff on the web before?". In the other I > >mentioned the GPL. Both were titled "Screen numbers", which makes > >sense when you read them.) I provided a link to my project so that > >people could have a look and inform me of what I needed to do, whether > >it was already being done or how it might be integrated with the main > >project. > > > >At the time I had only been on the list for 4 days, and was very new to > >the whole thing. On the whole I still am, so I'm sorry if I've broken > >some rules. It certainly was with no ill intent. > > I doubt that anyone who is performing a community service like putting > up a web page ever has any ill intent. I have, however, communicated > with a great number of people who are confused about the GPL and take > it personally when they are contacted regarding it. > > I appreciate very much that you are interested in doing things the right > way. I'm not sure how I missed your original mail. > > Bottom line: if you have no binaries on your page, then there is no need > to provide sources. If you do have binaries on your page then the > simplest way to be compliant with the GPL is to provide the > corresponding sources. > > >The next step in my project was to remove the need for me to host any > >binaries anyway, and just to have a script the grabs the minimal set of > >required files from the cygwin-xfree mirrors. My guess is that the new > >setup.exe for Cygwin (perhaps with a very minimal amount of tweaking) > >would be able to do that too, in which case I don't have to do > >anything! (Except presumably take down the binaries.) > > Yes. One of the primary goals of the new version of setup.exe was to > allow XFree86 to be installed as a cygwin package. You can design a > setup.ini which downloads as little or as much as you want. This is exactly what I want to do. I want a setup.ini that only downloads the minimal set up packages to get Cygwin-XFree86 connected to an XDMCP server. This is under 10MB. My only problem is that upon running setup.exe, if specifying Internet Install or Download, it overwrites the local setup.ini with the most recent hosted by cygwin. As this is desirable, my suggestion would be to have a *optional* second file that does a default 'ticking of boxes' function, similar to RedHat's kickstart file. If would define the defaults for which packages are 'skipped' and which are not. Different program vendors could include different 'Cygwin kickstart' files depending on which Cygwin programs they needed to complement their product. The user could / would still be given the ultimate choice - it would just make life easier for people that only want a select set up packages. If this is already effectively a feature of the new setup.exe, please tell me how to use it. The "Categories" look like they are part of the setup.ini downloaded too, so I don't think they will do what I have in mind. The 'hack' I had in mind was a script that started the setup.exe program, and waited until the setup.ini file was downloaded off the net, and then went through and 'trimmed' it down to only the packages required. It would be a horrible hack. If I had any C/C++ programming skills at all I would look at writing my suggested 'kickstart' function myself, but I don't. Cheers, Rasjid. PS. I have CC'd this to the cygwin list. From robert.collins@itdomain.com.au Wed Nov 21 01:33:00 2001 From: robert.collins@itdomain.com.au (Robert Collins) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:33:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <200111200824.fAK8Ouw17375@mail.redhat.com> <20011120182626.GA11848@redhat.com> Message-ID: <001701c1726f$a392d590$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rasjid Wilcox" > This is exactly what I want to do. I want a setup.ini that only downloads > the minimal set up packages to get Cygwin-XFree86 connected to an XDMCP > server. This is under 10MB. My only problem is that upon running setup.exe, > if specifying Internet Install or Download, it overwrites the local setup.ini > with the most recent hosted by cygwin. > > As this is desirable, my suggestion would be to have a *optional* second file > that does a default 'ticking of boxes' function, similar to RedHat's > kickstart file. If would define the defaults for which packages are > 'skipped' and which are not. Different program vendors could include > different 'Cygwin kickstart' files depending on which Cygwin programs they > needed to complement their product. The user could / would still be given > the ultimate choice - it would just make life easier for people that only > want a select set up packages. > > If this is already effectively a feature of the new setup.exe, please tell me > how to use it. The "Categories" look like they are part of the setup.ini > downloaded too, so I don't think they will do what I have in mind. At the moment, the only way is to define a metapackage - that is an empty package with no source, that simply requires the other packages you want to tick. Then instruct your users to select that package. Once setup.hint is able to be embedded in tarballs and still get used by setup, then you can have a local tarball that setup.exe will find when it scans the download cache. Rob P.S. This isn't on topic for cygwin either, it's a cygwin-apps discussion if anything. From rasjidw@bigpond.com Wed Nov 21 03:01:00 2001 From: rasjidw@bigpond.com (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:01:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <001701c1726f$a392d590$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> Message-ID: <49c556c28e774a4e7e812c6b2ff89603@NO-ID-FOUND.mhonarc.org> On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:33, Robert Collins wrote: > At the moment, the only way is to define a metapackage - that is an > empty package with no source, that simply requires the other packages > you want to tick. Then instruct your users to select that package. > > Once setup.hint is able to be embedded in tarballs and still get used by > setup, then you can have a local tarball that setup.exe will find when > it scans the download cache. > Thanks. I've had a look at http://cygwin.com/setup.html#setup.hint again, and once Cygwin-XFree86 starts being included in the setup.ini file, I think I will be able to get everything to work how I want it, depending on how the XFree part is packaged. I'm assuming that each part will be in it's own package? Rasjid. From alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk Wed Nov 21 04:23:00 2001 From: alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk (Alan Hourihane) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 04:23:00 -0000 Subject: seperate xfree project on sourceforge References: <002201c1700e$c5b21540$306307d5@BRAMSCHE> <001701c1726f$a392d590$0200a8c0@lifelesswks> <1006340563.2027105.0@sourceware.cygnus.com> Message-ID: <20011121122257.I2959@fairlite.demon.co.uk> On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:01:49PM +1100, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: > Thanks. I've had a look at http://cygwin.com/setup.html#setup.hint again, > and once Cygwin-XFree86 starts being included in the setup.ini file, I think > I will be able to get everything to work how I want it, depending on how the > XFree part is packaged. I'm assuming that each part will be in it's own > package? > Depends what you mean by "each part". The easiest solution is to create three packages. One for the Xserver (XWin.exe), one for all the libraries and programs, and the other for the fonts. That gives the developers an easy route to releasing patched Xservers at a later date, and doesn't require the user to keep downloading fonts if a binary has changed. Breaking out into more packages means more time to maintain - that's the downside to it. Alan. From h.nardmann@secunet.de Wed Nov 21 06:02:00 2001 From: h.nardmann@secunet.de (Heiko Nardmann) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:02:00 -0000 Subject: Q: using dd to get an image of a CDROM? Message-ID: <200111211402.PAA17470@mail-int.cubis.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Can I use Cygwin dd command to get an image of a CDROM? If yes which device do I have to specify? - -- Heiko Nardmann (Dipl.-Ing.), h.nardmann@secunet.de, Software Development secunet Security Networks AG - Sicherheit in Netzwerken (www.secunet.de), Weidenauer Str. 223-225, D-57076 Siegen Tel. : +49 271 48950-13, Fax : +49 271 48950-50 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+7PNpm53PRScYygRAjWvAKDMzqmkgHZdUR8MPLGThE1T6zaUEACgwaRn vyYcdBak9S8Ei1QAL4EkP5M= =9COD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jccura@laas.fr Wed Nov 21 06:07:00 2001 From: jccura@laas.fr (Jean-Christophe) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:07:00 -0000 Subject: glibc.... Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20011121150526.00a88300@popdisco.laas.fr> did some body port a complete glibc on cygwin ?? it will be for a installation of some multimedia programms who need somme header like inttypes.h that is not on the base cygwin... thanks... ___________________ Jean-Christophe CURA LAAS-CNRS 7, avenue du Colonel Roche 31077 Toulouse Cedex 4 Tel: 05.61.33.69.19 http://www.laas.fr/ ___________________ From cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Wed Nov 21 06:33:00 2001 From: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com (Corinna Vinschen) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:33:00 -0000 Subject: Q: using dd to get an image of a CDROM? References: <200111211402.PAA17470@mail-int.cubis.de> Message-ID: <20011121153232.X21630@cygbert.vinschen.de> On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 03:01:49PM +0100, Heiko Nardmann wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Can I use Cygwin dd command to get an image of a CDROM? If yes which device > do I have to specify? Wrong mailing list. Non-XFree question please to cygwin@cygwin.com. The answer to your question is "It depends." If you're running on 9x/Me, the answer is "no". On NT/2K/XP it's "yes". The device name is /dev/scd0 for the first CD-ROM, /dev/scd1 for the 2nd,... These special device names are documented in the online docs: http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-specialnames.html Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Developer mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com Red Hat, Inc. From im@de.uu.net Thu Nov 22 02:22:00 2001 From: im@de.uu.net (Ingolf Markhof) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:22:00 -0000 Subject: HELP! - Xfree86 ignores my IBM Thinkpad 600E 3-button mouse Message-ID: <200111221022.LAA10614@noc14.de.uu.net> Hi! I recently installed cygwin/Xfree86 on a IBM Thinkpad 600E (a notebook). Although the 600E has a three button mouse, The middle mouse button is ignored by cygwin/Xfree86 and I thus can't paste. I first started X by startx which in turn runs xinit. But as a workaround, I switched to startxwin.sh which calls XWin to start X. XWin offers the '-emulate3buttons' option and this allows me to paste by pressing two mouse buttons at the same time. But how can I get cygwin/Xfree86 to use the 3-button mouse of the thinkpad? I tried to change mouse button functionality by xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 3 2" but had to learn the there is a five (!) button mouse defined: There are 5 pointer buttons defined. Physical Button Button Code 1 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 5 but even xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 3 2 4 5" has no effect on mouse functionality. I ever have: button functio 1 select 2 extend selection 3 none Any pointers? Regards, Ingolf From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Thu Nov 22 03:19:00 2001 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:19:00 -0000 Subject: missing _IceLastMajorOpcode in libICE Message-ID: <002101c17348$3685ea30$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> Hi, I have found that the symbol _IceLastMajorOpcode isn't defined in libICE. Is there any reason, why this not could be included in the standard distribution. I'm asking because this is needed for kde 2.2.1 on cygwin and currently we have to build a patched library. Regards Ralf From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Thu Nov 22 06:01:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 06:01:00 -0000 Subject: missing _IceLastMajorOpcode in libICE Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831AA@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> There is no reason, it should not be included. I must have missed it, sorry. You can add it to libICE.cpp and recompile libraries. Suhaib > -----Original Message----- > From: Ralf Habacker [ mailto:Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de ] > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 6:24 AM > To: Cygwin-Xfree > Subject: missing _IceLastMajorOpcode in libICE > > Hi, > > I have found that the symbol _IceLastMajorOpcode isn't defined in > libICE. Is there any > reason, why this not could be included in the standard distribution. > > I'm asking because this is needed for kde 2.2.1 on cygwin and > currently we have to build a > patched library. > > Regards > Ralf From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Thu Nov 22 11:27:00 2001 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:27:00 -0000 Subject: libXmu fails to build? References: <20011120125813.26822.qmail@web20803.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Brian Genisio wrote: > Hey all, > > I downloaded the lates CVS last night, and did a build. I found that libXmu > failed to build... with the following error : > > CvtStdSel.c: In function `XmuConvertStandardSelection': > CvtStdSel.c:227: `hparams' undeclared (first use in this function) > CvtStdSel.c:227: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > CvtStdSel.c:227: for each function it appears in.) > make[4]: *** [CvtStdSel.o] Error 1 xfree-xpert says its now fixed in CVS bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 From orlolro@telocity.com Thu Nov 22 13:39:00 2001 From: orlolro@telocity.com (Joseff Betancourt) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:39:00 -0000 Subject: Wmaker/login trouble Message-ID: Winmaker is giving me trouble I beleive this is because my cygwin user account is joseff Betancourt. The space is messing up the wmaker install. How do I set the home directory to /home/Joseff? I beleive this will fix it? --Joseff. ----footer---- Fav. Free Online game: http://infantry.sony.com Check it out. From Luciano.Gemme@marconi.com Fri Nov 23 00:07:00 2001 From: Luciano.Gemme@marconi.com (Luciano Gemme) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 00:07:00 -0000 Subject: window scrolling Message-ID: Hi all, We planned to use Cygwin as a replacement of Exceed to allow our product to run under WIndows (actually is a program build under Unix and ported under Windows with Nutcracker) Starting something like "startxwin.bat" there is a way to use Windows desktop instead of show the Cygwin desktop (these big green window, just to be clear) ? Other window manager, like Excedd allow to show the process inside Windows panels like all the others WIndows application Another question: is it possible to manage windows greater than the desktop? The "usual" Exceed automatically pans the windows if the mouse reaches the border of the desktop Thanks in advance From Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de Fri Nov 23 00:28:00 2001 From: Ralf.Habacker@freenet.de (Ralf Habacker) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 00:28:00 -0000 Subject: window scrolling References: Message-ID: <002f01c173f9$81700e20$651c440a@BRAMSCHE> > -----Original Message----- > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com > [ mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com]On Behalf Of Luciano Gemme > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 9:05 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com > Subject: window scrolling > > > Hi all, > We planned to use Cygwin as a replacement of Exceed to allow our product to > run under WIndows > (actually is a program build under Unix and ported under Windows with > Nutcracker) > > Starting something like "startxwin.bat" there is a way to use Windows > desktop instead of show the Cygwin desktop > (these big green window, just to be clear) ? Other window manager, like > Excedd allow to show the process > inside Windows panels like all the others WIndows application > Exceed supports a "multiple window mode", in which the exceed x server provides a own window manager. This window manager displays each application in a seperate native window. Currently the xfree server does not support a multiple window mode. There is some work in progress to provide an xlib with native window support (ntxlib on sourceforge) and and featuring the xfree server with gdi support, but if the xfree server would support a native window manager currently I don't know. Regards Ralf > Another question: is it possible to manage windows greater than the > desktop? The "usual" Exceed automatically > pans the windows if the mouse reaches the border of the desktop > > Thanks in advance > > > > From John_Tobey@notes.intdata.com Fri Nov 23 05:49:00 2001 From: John_Tobey@notes.intdata.com (John_Tobey@notes.intdata.com) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 05:49:00 -0000 Subject: Wmaker/login trouble Message-ID: <85256B0D.004BEA07.00@notes.intdata.com> Hello Joseff, It sounds like you should change your $HOME environment variable. Cygwin documentation describes how to do this. Regards, -John "Joseff Betancourt" on 22-11-2001 04:39:21 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com cc: (bcc: John Tobey/Intdata) Subject: Wmaker/login trouble Winmaker is giving me trouble I beleive this is because my cygwin user account is joseff Betancourt. The space is messing up the wmaker install. How do I set the home directory to /home/Joseff? I beleive this will fix it? --Joseff. ----footer---- Fav. Free Online game: http://infantry.sony.com Check it out. From John_Tobey@notes.intdata.com Fri Nov 23 08:08:00 2001 From: John_Tobey@notes.intdata.com (John_Tobey@notes.intdata.com) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:08:00 -0000 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 53 Message-ID: <85256B0D.0058A4BD.00@notes.intdata.com> I've been using Test53 for a week with no bad results. I notice that the Windows mouse cursor is no longer hidden and appears superimposed on the X mouse cursor, but I kind of prefer this to having it hidden, so I am not unhappy with the change. I had hoped that your changes in winkeybd.c and winwndproc.c might fix my async-popup-key-release problem, but they have not. I still get autorepeat when the popup comes while a key is down, and an 'Enter' keystroke passed to X if I dismiss the popup with the Enter key. Thanks! -John "Harold Hunt" on 11-11-2001 03:06:27 PM To: "cygx" cc: (bcc: John Tobey/Intdata) Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 53 Notice: Test53 needs to be tested thoroughly, as it is likely that I have broken things. Furthermore, Test53 will probably be the server that is used in XFree86 4.2.0, so any outstanding bugs need to be fixed within a week or two. Links: I just posted Test 53 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ Server Test Series binary and source code releases are now available via the sources.redhat.com ftp mirror network ( http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html ) in the pub/cygwin/xfree/devel/shadow/ directory. You may wish to note the desired filename in the links below, then download from your closest mirror ( http://cygwin.com/mirrors.html ). Server binary, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test53.exe.bz2 (1074 KiB) Server source, direct link: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/xwin-20011111-1500.tar.bz2 (69 KiB) Changes: 1) winkeybd.c - winRestoreModeKeyStates () - This function is supposed to handle the case where the user switches out of Cygwin/XFree86, changes the state of a mode key (i.e. Num Lock), then returns to Cygwin/XFree86. Back in May I replaced a macro, WIN_XOR, with the C binary operator ^. At the time I didn't realize that I was using the binary operator instead of the logical operator. The end result is that some of the mode keys were toggled each time that Cygwin/XFree86 gained and lost focus, regardless of whether the key state had changed. The WIN_XOR macro is being used again, and I have added a note as to why the C xor operator cannot be used. This has been broken for months, I'm really surprised that no one noticed it yet. 2) winwndproc.c - winWindowProc () - Move the mode key state save/restore function calls to the WM_KILLFOCUS and WM_SETFOCUS messages, from the WM_ACTIVATE message. Enjoy, Harold From gregor@ghowey.de Sat Nov 24 09:23:00 2001 From: gregor@ghowey.de (Gregor Howey) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:23:00 -0000 Subject: xdmcp with kde crashes References: Message-ID: Hi, looks like I found a solution: Registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\MSTCP\ STRING: MaxConnections="500" seems to fix it. Defaults to 100 and is normally not included. many Greetings, Gregor Am Samstag, 17. November 2001 16:32 schrieb Gregor Howey: > Hello, > > I've some Probs with KDE via xdmcp on win98se on an athlon 1000 256 MB RAM > with an 3com 3c90x latest drivers to a suse 7.2 HP-Omnibook. > Chooser works fine, desktop loads fine most of the time. > > After some usage starting progs (kmail) in most cases the XWin-process dies > without any comments. > > The XWin-Versions I tried where the actual release, test-49, test-52 and > test-53 they all show the same behaviour. > > It's independent, if I use the das startup-script or starting XWin from a > bash. It also makes no difference, which setting I use for ulimit -n > > If I use a webbrowser on windows I dont't get any connections. > Netscape 4.78 tells: > can't locate host > or > tcp error not enpugh memory > > if i call netstat with cygwin/xfree it shows me round about 22 active > connections. > > IE says, can't reach dns. > > Than i removed all preferences Files from KDE (.kde and .kde2), copied back > the mail-Prefs. > This action lessend the effect, but didn't eleminates it it. Without Mail > prefs it'????s the same behaviour. > > Just before XWin Crashes I've seen refresh Problems of xosview. It didn't > redraw if I didn't made any input to Xwin (mouse movement was enough). This > effect I've seen one time, will look further for it. > > A trace file I can't find. > > Does anybody knows anything about this prob? > > best regards, > Gregor From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu Sat Nov 24 19:10:00 2001 From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:10:00 -0000 Subject: cygwin-xfree, kde hit the big time... Message-ID: <3C0060EB.5080407@ece.gatech.edu> [crossposted] "KDE 2.2.1, On Win32/Cygwin" http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/11/25/0231257 Kudos to Ralf, and all the cygwin/cygwin-xfree hackers... --Chuck From gp@familiehaase.de Sun Nov 25 17:01:00 2001 From: gp@familiehaase.de (Gerrit P. Haase) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 17:01:00 -0000 Subject: freetype Message-ID: <141102077469.20011126020315@familiehaase.de> Hallo, What happened to freetype? I just tried to build v2.0.5, no way, they use a tool named 'jam', there is no longer Cygwin support included. Why? No I stay with v2.0.2 which probably builds OOTB with shared libs, I cannot believe that they have cut it down to what it is now... Ciao, Gerrit P. Haase mailto:gp@familiehaase.de -- =^..^= From FreeEmailSoftware1@yahoo.com Sun Nov 25 18:01:00 2001 From: FreeEmailSoftware1@yahoo.com (FreeEmailSoftware1@yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 18:01:00 -0000 Subject: >>>ADVERTISE TO 11,759,000 PEOPLE FREE! Message-ID: <3791856948.991306994491@m0.net> <([62.215.274.4]> Dear cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, *********************************************************** Would you like to send an Email Advertisement to OVER 11 MILLION PEOPLE DAILY for FREE? *********************************************************** Do you have a product or service to sell? Do you want an extra 100 orders per week? NOTE: (If you do not already have a product or service to sell, we can supply you with one). ========================================================= 1) Let's say you... 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Message-ID: While trying to install xfree86 for cygwin, while running the Xinstall.sh script I get an error with extract.exe. It says that the file is bad and is being renamed. I have tried copies of extract.exe.bz2 from most of the mirror sites and the same problem occurs. I am running cygwin on a Windows 2000 Professional Box. Is there any reason why this would occur. Thanks John Morgan From ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com Mon Nov 26 07:13:00 2001 From: ssiddiqi@inspirepharm.com (Suhaib Siddiqi) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 07:13:00 -0000 Subject: problems... Message-ID: <7F2B9185F0196F44B59990759B91B1C26831B9@ins-exch.inspirepharm.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: John Morgan [ mailto:jcmst56+@pitt.edu ] > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:10 AM > To: cygwin-xfree@xfree.cygwin.com > Subject: problems... > > > > > > > > While trying to install xfree86 for cygwin, while running the > Xinstall.sh script I get an error with extract.exe. It says > that the file is bad and is being renamed. I have tried > copies of extract.exe.bz2 from most of the mirror sites and > the same problem occurs. I am running cygwin on a Windows > 2000 Professional Box. Is there any reason why this would occur. > Windows2000 and NT 4 may have a Microsoft version of extract.exe. If it is in your PATH, it can give errors. How about try setting path from bash shell export PATH=.:$PATH Suhaib > Thanks > John Morgan > > From siva.santhakumar@syntegra.com.au Mon Nov 26 15:46:00 2001 From: siva.santhakumar@syntegra.com.au (SANTHAKUMAR Siva-Syntegra AU) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:46:00 -0000 Subject: more command Message-ID: <03E30CF11DA2D311ACC600805F85B48B02E19A63@SYNRYD01NT05> Hi, I have installed cygwin and It's working fine, though I can not run more command, is there a problem with is command? Thanks in advance. Santha From briangenisio@yahoo.com Mon Nov 26 15:55:00 2001 From: briangenisio@yahoo.com (Brian Genisio) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:55:00 -0000 Subject: more command References: <03E30CF11DA2D311ACC600805F85B48B02E19A63@SYNRYD01NT05> Message-ID: <20011126235521.83592.qmail@web20806.mail.yahoo.com> Wrong mail list... you want cygwin@cygwin.com. This list is for Xfree on Cygwin. To answer your question, Cygwin has less, a better version of more... does the same thing, but you can scroll up and down. I simply make an alias to less, and name it more, and I never notice the difference. Brian --- SANTHAKUMAR Siva-Syntegra AU wrote: > Hi, > > I have installed cygwin and It's working fine, though I can not run more > command, is there a problem with is command? > > Thanks in advance. > > Santha > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From druid@psu.edu Mon Nov 26 20:22:00 2001 From: druid@psu.edu (Ryan W Sims) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 20:22:00 -0000 Subject: still xterm probelms Message-ID: <3C02CEB7.28686.1576560@localhost> I've now upgraded everything to the latest version....still having the same problems with xterm. Am I the only one? -- RyanWDruid From fanarie@free.fr Tue Nov 27 02:34:00 2001 From: fanarie@free.fr (fanarie@free.fr) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 02:34:00 -0000 Subject: Uil compile problem Message-ID: <1006857256.3c036c282deef@imp.free.fr> I try to make uid file with uil but i 've got an error : yacc.y:256:NO OP yacc.y:243:NO OP lookup XmLabel = index of 28 my label.uil was : module ExempleLabel names = case_sensitive object hello : XmLabel{}; end module; I have install lesstiff and xfree correctly (i have no problem to make motif prog which don't use uil) CU Fr????d????ric P.S:excuse my poor english From jccura@laas.fr Tue Nov 27 04:14:00 2001 From: jccura@laas.fr (Jean-Christophe) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 04:14:00 -0000 Subject: Fwd: still xterm probelms Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20011127131150.00a886f8@popdisco.laas.fr> >X-From_: cygwin-xfree-return-7768-jccura=laas.fr@sources.redhat.com Tue >Nov 27 05:22:56 2001 >Mailing-List: contact cygwin-xfree-help@sourceware.cygnus.com; run by ezmlm >List-Unsubscribe: >< mailto:cygwin-xfree-unsubscribe-jccura=laas.fr@sources.redhat.com > >List-Subscribe: < mailto:cygwin-xfree-subscribe@sources.redhat.com > >List-Archive: < http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/ > >List-Post: < mailto:cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com > >List-Help: < mailto:cygwin-xfree-help@sources.redhat.com >, >< http://sources.redhat.com/ml/#faqs > >Sender: cygwin-xfree-owner@sources.redhat.com >Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin-xfree@sources.redhat.com >From: "Ryan W Sims" >To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com >Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 23:22:31 -0500 >Subject: still xterm probelms >Priority: normal >X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v4.0, beta 40) > >I've now upgraded everything to the latest version....still having the >same problems with xterm. Am I the only one? > >-- >RyanWDruid no, me to, y can't run an xterm from the cygwin small windows, and when i make an xterm& on a distant computer, it's impossible to use the keybord on it ! ___________________ Jean-Christophe CURA LAAS-CNRS 7, avenue du Colonel Roche 31077 Toulouse Cedex 4 Tel: 05.61.33.69.19 http://www.laas.fr/ ___________________ From till.feilitzsch@ch.tum.de Tue Nov 27 08:45:00 2001 From: till.feilitzsch@ch.tum.de (Till Feilitzsch) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:45:00 -0000 Subject: Installing XFree86 Message-ID: <200111271650.RAA07101@zentrum.phys.chemie.tu-muenchen.de> Hi, it seems, I have the same problem. I've checked, the bzip2-package is installed (or at least it is marked to be installed in the setup-routine), but still I cannot start bunzip2 ....bz2. What did I do wrong? And where should I find bunzip2? Till The bzip2 package in the cygwin distro. Rob === ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mo Welch" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 9:13 AM Subject: Installing XFree86 > Sirs: > I'm a total newbie; but seems to me if I need to use bunzip2 to > install XFree86 > then should there not be a copy of bunzip2 in the Cygwin distro - or > somewhere > in the XFree86 distro? In the downloads I have there is no such > utility. Where > can I get this package? > Thank you. > Mo Welch, > mwelch@ontarioeast.net > > From jorgens@coho.net Tue Nov 27 16:10:00 2001 From: jorgens@coho.net (Steve Jorgensen) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:10:00 -0000 Subject: WM Message-ID: <01C1775E.53BB9CC0.jorgens@coho.net> Oops - I responded to the original message before seeing this. (question, not a challenge) What makes this inappropriate content for this list? On Tuesday, November 27, 2001 12:57 PM, Christopher Faylor [SMTP:cgf@redhat.com] wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 12:51:39PM -0800, Collin Grady wrote: > > KDE and xfce work in Cygwin ;) The second link is a guy trying to get > >Gnome working in Cygwin. > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/kde-cygwin/ > > http://my.dreamwiz.com/jbdoll/ > > Wrong mailing list. > > cgf > > -- > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html > Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html > FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ > From cgf@redhat.com Tue Nov 27 16:43:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:43:00 -0000 Subject: WM References: <01C1775E.53BB9CC0.jorgens@coho.net> Message-ID: <20011128004344.GB6276@redhat.com> On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 04:12:34PM -0800, Steve Jorgensen wrote: >Oops - I responded to the original message before seeing this. (question, >not a challenge) What makes this inappropriate content for this list? http://cygwin.com/lists.html cgf >On Tuesday, November 27, 2001 12:57 PM, Christopher Faylor >[SMTP:cgf@redhat.com] wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 12:51:39PM -0800, Collin Grady wrote: >> > KDE and xfce work in Cygwin ;) The second link is a guy trying to >get >> >Gnome working in Cygwin. >> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/kde-cygwin/ >> > http://my.dreamwiz.com/jbdoll/ >> >> Wrong mailing list. From matthew.donald@motile.net Tue Nov 27 19:39:00 2001 From: matthew.donald@motile.net (Matthew Donald) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:39:00 -0000 Subject: more command References: <03E30CF11DA2D311ACC600805F85B48B02E19A63@SYNRYD01NT05> Message-ID: <00b201c177be$4c1af050$2102a8c0@motile.net> Try using the 'less' command cheers Matthew ----- Original Message ----- From: "SANTHAKUMAR Siva-Syntegra AU" To: "'cygwin-xfree@xfree86.cygwin.com'" Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 10:43 AM Subject: more command > Hi, > > I have installed cygwin and It's working fine, though I can not run more > command, is there a problem with is command? > > Thanks in advance. > > Santha > > > > From cwilson@ece.gatech.edu Tue Nov 27 21:26:00 2001 From: cwilson@ece.gatech.edu (Charles Wilson) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:26:00 -0000 Subject: Yet another Slashdot article Message-ID: <3C047590.6010305@ece.gatech.edu> is here: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/11/25/2245258 this time on cygwin+gnome. The site mentioned includes build instructions for several gnomish packages, but seems a little out of date (why provide instructions for compiling popt when popt has been part of the official dist since last spring? Also, providing instructions on how to build your own freetype library is SURE to tick off you cygwin-xfree folks...) Cool screenshots, tho (even if the guy IS using twm...) --Chuck From Degrees@admissions.net Tue Nov 27 23:42:00 2001 From: Degrees@admissions.net (Degrees@admissions.net) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:42:00 -0000 Subject: Get a University Degree...Easily! Message-ID: <541.364761.381921@admissions@mailcom> UNIVERSITY DIPLOMAS Obtain a prosperous future, money earning power, and the admiration of all. Diplomas from prestigious non-accredited universities based on your present knowledge and life experience. No required tests, classes, books, or interviews. Bachelors, masters, MBA, and doctorate (PhD) diplomas available in the field of your choice. No one is turned down. Confidentiality assured. CALL NOW to receive your diploma within days!!! 1-305-460-3278 Call 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, including Sundays and holidays. If you no longer wish to be on our list send a message to dropme@hotmail.com From dschack@Stadtwerke-Giessen.de Wed Nov 28 01:29:00 2001 From: dschack@Stadtwerke-Giessen.de (Schack, Daniel) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 01:29:00 -0000 Subject: unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0' xfree86 4.10 Message-ID: <51736CF0BC22D211BFBC00A0C9A3058F6E5CB6@exchange_server.stadtwerke-giessen.de> Hi I am newbie in using X. Unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0' is what I get when running startxwin.bat with the binary-instllation cygwin xfree6.4 4.10. In the startxwin.bat it says: get the newest cygwin1.dll but where can I get it? The snapshot dll binaries cannot be downloaded from me aund I got an 4.10 distribution? Display is set to 127.0.0.1:0.0 PATH has c\cygwin\bin;c:\cygwin\usr\XFREEr6\bin Trying to start with startx in c:\cygwin\usr\XFREEr6\bin delivers cannot cat .Xauthority and cannot connect to server and something aboout missing root rights for /tmp/.... What am I doing wrong? Where can I get the newest binary of cygwin1.dll? Help. Regards *********************************************************************** Stadtwerke Gie????en Abteilung Informationsverarbeitung Lahnstra????e 31 35398 Gie????en www.stadtwerke-giessen.de Daniel Schack Fon: (49) 06 41-708 11 29 Fax: (49) 06 41-708 34 80 e-mail: dschack@stadtwerke-giessen.de *********************************************************************** From kwirl@lucent.com Wed Nov 28 04:48:00 2001 From: kwirl@lucent.com (kwirl@lucent.com) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 04:48:00 -0000 Subject: Uil compile problem References: <1006857256.3c036c282deef@imp.free.fr> Message-ID: <462A45A5736AD411A6920008C7846B75037F5EAE@ge1884exch003u.de.lucent.com> fanarie@free.fr wrote on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:34 AM > I try to make uid file with uil > but i 've got an error : > yacc.y:256:NO OP > yacc.y:243:NO OP > lookup XmLabel = index of 28 > > my label.uil was : ... > I have install lesstiff and xfree correctly > (i have no problem to make motif prog which don't use uil) >From the Lesstif FAQ ( http://www.lesstif.org/FAQ.html#QU1.13 ) Is UIL (User Interface Language) supported? Not really. Though there is some old code in place already it's unlikely you succeed with a project using it. Actually there are two versions of the uil compiler around: one is built as uil while the other executable is named newuil. The latter uses libUil as opposed to the older one which uses it's own code base. If somebody can correct me i'll be happy! Best regards Klaus (also having some unsupported UIL files laying around ...) -- +---------------------------+---------------------------+ | Klaus P. Wirl | Email: kwirl@lucent.com | | Lucent Technologies | Phone: +49 911 526-3626 | | Thurn-und-Taxis Str. 10 | Mobile:+49 171 970 6639 | | 90411 N????rnberg, Germany | Fax: +49 911 526-4193 | +---------------------------+---------------------------+ --- My opinion is my opinion is my opinion --- From dschack@Stadtwerke-Giessen.de Wed Nov 28 06:23:00 2001 From: dschack@Stadtwerke-Giessen.de (Schack, Daniel) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 06:23:00 -0000 Subject: unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0' xfree86 4.10 Message-ID: <51736CF0BC22D211BFBC00A0C9A3058F6E5CB8@exchange_server.stadtwerke-giessen.de> Hi I am newbie in using X. Unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0' is what I get when running startxwin.bat with the binary-instllation cygwin xfree6.4 4.10. I have the newest cygwin1.dll (1.353) for xfree6 4.10. at cygwin shellprompt: Administrator@OPERATOR /cygdrive/c/cygwin/usr/X11r6/bin $ sh startwin.sh _X11TransSocketINETGetPeerAddr: getpeername() failed: 128 _X11TransSocketINETConnect: ...SocketINITGetPeerAddr() failed: xsetroot: unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0' _X11TransSocketINETGetPeerAddr: getpeername() failed: 128 _X11TransSocketINETConnect: ...SocketINITGetPeerAddr() failed: twm: unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0' _X11TransSocketINETGetPeerAddr: getpeername() failed: 128 _X11TransSocketINETConnect: ...SocketINITGetPeerAddr() failed: xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0 or with MSDOS/Wondows startxwin.bat Messages are the same errors Here a version I constructed with the same negative result. rem startxwin_my.bat @echo off SET CYGWIN_ROOT=c:\cygwin SET PATH=.;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\bin;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\usr\X11R6\bin;%PATH% set PATH=c:\cygwin\usr\X11r6\bin;c:\cygwin\bin;c:\cygwin\bin\X11;%PATH%; echo %PATH% pause SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 echo %XHOST% echo %DISPLAY% pause SET PATH=.;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\bin;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\usr\X11R6\bin;%PATH% REM REM Cleanup after last run. REM if not exist %CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 goto CLEANUP-FINISH attrib -s %CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 del %CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix\X0 :CLEANUP-FINISH if exist %CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix rmdir %CYGWIN_ROOT%\tmp\.X11-unix REM Startup the X Server. REM start /B XWin -screen 0 1024 768 start /B XWin -screen 0 800 600 REM Startup an xterm, using bash as the shell. REM start /B xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black -e /usr/bin/bash start /B xterm -sl 1000 -e /usr/bin/bash REM Startup the twm window manager. start /B twm :END REM Set a background color to comply with FCC regulations :) xsetroot -solid aquamarine4 What am I doing wrong? Please help me. Regards *********************************************************************** Stadtwerke Gie????en Abteilung Informationsverarbeitung Lahnstra????e 31 35398 Gie????en www.stadtwerke-giessen.de Daniel Schack Fon: (49) 06 41-708 11 29 Fax: (49) 06 41-708 34 80 e-mail: dschack@stadtwerke-giessen.de *********************************************************************** From RBodack@sseg.de Wed Nov 28 09:31:00 2001 From: RBodack@sseg.de (Rüdiger Bodack) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:31:00 -0000 Subject: Again: Where to place xmodmap with startxwin.bat Message-ID: <540D22115D0CD311BC2E00A0246200EE0129466C@ssegadmin> Hi All, I am using startxwin.bat (from win2k) to start xfree. Where do I have to place the xmodmap to switch to a non US keyboard? - Is xinitrc executed from anywhere automatically? - Is Xresources read automatically? - Is DisplayManager.setup used (in xdm-config)? - is ~/.xinitrc executed? My guess: none of the above. Can you help? Thanks in advance, R????diger From cgf@redhat.com Wed Nov 28 09:48:00 2001 From: cgf@redhat.com (Christopher Faylor) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:48:00 -0000 Subject: Yet another Slashdot article References: <3C047590.6010305@ece.gatech.edu> Message-ID: <20011128174812.GD4455@redhat.com> On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 12:26:40AM -0500, Charles Wilson wrote: >is here: > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/11/25/2245258 > >this time on cygwin+gnome. The site mentioned includes build >instructions for several gnomish packages, but seems a little out of >date (why provide instructions for compiling popt when popt has been >part of the official dist since last spring? Also, providing >instructions on how to build your own freetype library is SURE to tick >off you cygwin-xfree folks...) > >Cool screenshots, tho (even if the guy IS using twm...) I thought that one of the comments about cygwin being around forever was sort of interesting. 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The website is located at http://www.sexnetpersonals.com and look me up under shelby1973 From Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de Wed Nov 28 11:27:00 2001 From: Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Gottwald) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:27:00 -0000 Subject: unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0' xfree86 4.10 References: <51736CF0BC22D211BFBC00A0C9A3058F6E5CB8@exchange_server.stadtwerke-giessen.de> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Schack, Daniel wrote: > I have the newest cygwin1.dll (1.353) for xfree6 4.10. > _X11TransSocketINETGetPeerAddr: getpeername() failed: 128 ^^^ == ENOTCONN > _X11TransSocketINETConnect: ...SocketINITGetPeerAddr() failed: > xsetroot: unable to open display '127.0.0.1:0.0' Which version of windows? What kind network cards have you installed? bye ago -- Alexander.Gottwald@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723 phone: +49 3725 349 80 80 mobile: +49 172 7854017 4. Chemnitzer Linux-Tag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/lt4 From holger.vogt@uni-duisburg.de Wed Nov 28 14:05:00 2001 From: holger.vogt@uni-duisburg.de (Holger Vogt) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:05:00 -0000 Subject: Again: Where to place xmodmap with startxwin.bat Message-ID: <3C055FBA.2070004@uni-duisburg.de> Dear R????diger, put it into startxwin.bat. This is my version: @echo off SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 SET PATH=%PATH%;\usr\X11R6\bin;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\bin cd c:\cygwin\usr\x11r6\bin start XWin-Test50 -screen 0 1024 768 -emulate3buttons 50 -engine 1 run xwinclip-Test03.exe run twm run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black run xmodmap ../lib/x11/etc/xmodmap.de Regards Holger Vogt From Peter.Franz.muc@web.de Wed Nov 28 14:42:00 2001 From: Peter.Franz.muc@web.de (PF Freemail) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:42:00 -0000 Subject: problems with function keys F1 - F4 Message-ID: <18952714832.20011128234216@web.de> Hi, first of all - thank you very much for cygwin xfree!!! I have a problem with my function keys F1 till F5. F6 till F12 is working good. I have also loaded a xmodmap file (see attachement) but there is no difference (xev told me the keys F1 till F5 are Ok). To find out what is wrong, I go with rlogin on my linux system and I have used the program showkey -a It shows me the following: ^[OP 27 0033 0x1b - This is F1 and don't work 79 0117 0x4f 80 0120 0x50 ^[OQ 27 0033 0x1b - This is F2 and don't work 79 0117 0x4f 81 0121 0x51 ^[OR 27 0033 0x1b - This is F3 and don't work 79 0117 0x4f 82 0122 0x52 ^[OS 27 0033 0x1b - This is F4 and don't work 79 0117 0x4f 83 0123 0x53 ^[[15~ 27 0033 0x1b - This is F5 and works 91 0133 0x5b 49 0061 0x31 53 0065 0x35 126 0176 0x7e If I call a xterm on linux (which works), showkey show the following: ^[[11~ 27 0033 0x1b - This is F1 and works 91 0133 0x5b 49 0061 0x31 49 0061 0x31 126 0176 0x7e ^[[12~ 27 0033 0x1b - This is F2 and works 91 0133 0x5b 49 0061 0x31 50 0062 0x32 126 0176 0x7e ^[[13~ 27 0033 0x1b - This is F3 and works 91 0133 0x5b 49 0061 0x31 51 0063 0x33 126 0176 0x7e ^[[14~ 27 0033 0x1b - This is F4 and works 91 0133 0x5b 49 0061 0x31 52 0064 0x34 126 0176 0x7e ^[[15~ 27 0033 0x1b - This is F5 and works 91 0133 0x5b 49 0061 0x31 53 0065 0x35 126 0176 0x7e I am using the Cygwin/XFree86 4.1.0 binary release and I have tried also the latest Test53 of server series. If I calling xmodmap -pke the keycode 67 till 71 is loaded with F1 - F5. Do you have any idea what could be wrong? Thank you. -- Best regards Peter Franz mailto:Peter.Franz.muc@web.de Attachment: xmodmap.de Description: Binary data -------------- next part -------------- ! File: ! .xmodmaprc ! ! Goal: ! Customize keyboard mappings ! ! Location (where to put this file): ! $HOME/.xmodmaprc ! ! Usage: ! xmodmap $HOME/.xmodmaprc ! ! clear modifier groups ! clear shift clear lock clear control clear mod1 clear mod2 clear mod3 clear mod4 clear mod5 ! ! set up keys ! ! Key Unshifted Shifted AltGraph AltGraph-Shifted ! --- --------------- --------------- --------------- ---------------- !keycode 8 = !keycode 9 = Escape keycode 11 = 2 quotedbl keycode 12 = 3 section keycode 13 = 4 dollar keycode 14 = 5 percent keycode 15 = 6 ampersand keycode 16 = 7 slash braceleft keycode 17 = 8 parenleft bracketleft keycode 18 = 9 parenright bracketright keycode 19 = 0 equal braceright keycode 20 = ssharp question backslash keycode 21 = acute grave !keycode 22 = BackSpace !keycode 23 = Tab ISO_Left_Tab keycode 24 = q Q at !keycode 25 = z Z guillemotleft less !keycode 26 = e E EuroSign cent !keycode 27 = r R paragraph registered !keycode 28 = t T tslash Tslash keycode 29 = z Z !keycode 30 = u U downarrow uparrow !keycode 31 = i I rightarrow idotless !keycode 32 = o O oslash Ooblique !keycode 33 = p P thorn THORN keycode 34 = udiaeresis keycode 35 = plus asterisk asciitilde !keycode 36 = Return !keycode 37 = Control_L !keycode 38 = q Q at Greek_OMEGA !keycode 39 = s S ssharp section !keycode 40 = d D eth ETH !keycode 41 = f F dstroke ordfeminine !keycode 42 = g G eng ENG !keycode 43 = h H hstroke Hstroke !keycode 44 = j J !keycode 45 = k K kra ampersand !keycode 46 = l L lstroke Lstroke keycode 47 = Odiaeresis keycode 48 = adiaeresis !keycode 49 = twosuperior asciitilde notsign !keycode 50 = Shift_L keycode 51 = numbersign apostrophe keycode 52 = y Y !keycode 53 = x X guillemotright greater !keycode 54 = c C cent copyright !keycode 55 = v V leftdoublequotemark grave !keycode 56 = b B rightdoublequotemark apostrophe !keycode 57 = n N !keycode 58 = comma question acute doubleacute keycode 59 = comma semicolon keycode 60 = period colon keycode 61 = minus underscore !keycode 62 = Shift_R !keycode 63 = KP_Multiply !keycode 64 = Alt_L !keycode 65 = space !keycode 66 = Caps_Lock keycode 67 = F9 keycode 68 = F2 keycode 69 = F3 keycode 70 = F4 keycode 71 = F5 keycode 72 = F6 keycode 73 = F7 keycode 74 = F8 keycode 75 = F9 keycode 76 = F10 !keycode 77 = 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!keycode 252 = !keycode 253 = !keycode 254 = !keycode 255 = ! ! set modifier groups ! add shift = Shift_L Shift_R add lock = Caps_Lock add control = Control_L Control_R add mod1 = Alt_L add mod2 = Num_Lock add mod3 = Mode_switch add mod4 = Meta_L add mod5 = Scroll_Lock From RBodack@sseg.de Thu Nov 29 03:15:00 2001 From: RBodack@sseg.de (Rüdiger Bodack) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 03:15:00 -0000 Subject: AW: Again: Where to place xmodmap with startxwin.bat Message-ID: <540D22115D0CD311BC2E00A0246200EE01294676@ssegadmin> Hi Holger and all the others, xmodmap /etc/X11/xinit/xmodmap.de at the end of the startxwin.bat solved the issue. I also created a little desktop icon by modifying one icon from system32.dll with an X symbol... :-) Thanks to all, R????diger Bodack > > Dear R????diger, > > put it into startxwin.bat. > > This is my version: > > @echo off > SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 > SET PATH=%PATH%;\usr\X11R6\bin;\cygwin\bin;\cygwin\usr\bin > cd c:\cygwin\usr\x11r6\bin > start XWin-Test50 -screen 0 1024 768 -emulate3buttons 50 -engine 1 > run xwinclip-Test03.exe > run twm > run xterm -sl 1000 -sb -rightbar -ms red -fg yellow -bg black > run xmodmap ../lib/x11/etc/xmodmap.de > > > Regards > > Holger Vogt > From efaugeras@cosmote.gr Thu Nov 29 04:35:00 2001 From: efaugeras@cosmote.gr (Faugeras Eric) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 04:35:00 -0000 Subject: Err 104 : Xfree86-twm Compatible with opengl application for cygwin ? Message-ID: Hi all, I built an openGl with the cygwin environment (using the glut libraries). This exe is works well. I have Installed the new release of Xfree86 with twm. This is also workig well. But I have 2 case of trouble: 1- When I try to start my Xserver (startxwin.sh) , when my opengl program is already running, I have the famous error 104: ddxProcessArgument () ddxProcessArgument () - screen -argc: 7 i: 1 ddxProcessArgument () winDetectSupportedEngines () - windows NT/2000 winDetectSupportedEngines () - DirectDrw installed winDetectSupportedEngines () - Returning, supported engines 0000001b winSetEngine () - Using Shadow DirectDraw winAdjustVideoModeShadowDD () - Using WindowClient w1018 h 714 r 1018 l 0 b 714 t 0 XIO: fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0" after 0 requests (0known processed) with 0 events remaining XIO: fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0" after 0 requests (0known processed) with 0 events remaining 2- When I try to launch my opengl program, when my X server is running, my application crashs ( core dump), And I need to kill my X client (twm) with the Windows task manager (due to the no response of my client:). After I kill the X client I have the famous error 104: xterm: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) or killClient on Xserver "107.0.0..1:0.0" XIO: fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server "127.0.0.1:0.0" after 324 requests (0known processed) with 0 events remaining Remarks: ------------ My OpenGl application is build with gcc and glut32.dll, libglu32.a, libgl32.a. If I build the same application for the X client , its work. My version of cygwin1.dll is 1.3.5 , the Xfree86.Distribution is 4.10 So what can I do to be able to run my programs built for windows with the opengl librairies, in the same time of an Xfree86 Client ? ( Ok, may be using the Win32API instead of the glut librairie, but then I need to change the code, I lost the opengl portability ..., and programming with the win32API #$%%^$%#^#^%&#) Is it a bug from the glut library used by my application , the client twm, the X server ? Is it really a bug? Thank you for your help. From lars.falting@ausystem.se Thu Nov 29 08:09:00 2001 From: lars.falting@ausystem.se (Lars Fälting) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:09:00 -0000 Subject: Swedish characters? Message-ID: <8E2734629021D3118C3A00204808C89F04F267D5@aunt24.ausys.se> Have recently installed cygwin and xfree86. I noticed I had a US keyboard by default, so after some searching in the mail archives I found two alternatives to get back to my Swedish keyboard: a) xmodmap xmodmap.sv where I found the Finnish/Swedish xmodmap at gotti.org b) xkbcomp -xkm -m se_SE /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/xfree86 /tmp/se_SE.xkm Both ways works fine. I find most characters back in their right position on my keyboard. But the specific Swedish characters do not work. Nothing happens at all when I press them. The xmodmap.sv seems OK to me (defines the aring, adiaeresis and odiaeresis for the correct keycodes). Printing a file with these characters is no problem. How do I do to get these three characters to work? Should it work (that is, are they supported in cygwin)? /Lars From aquilapp@yahoo.com Thu Nov 29 12:39:00 2001 From: aquilapp@yahoo.com (Federico Ferri) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:39:00 -0000 Subject: A "xmodmap" interesting behavior Message-ID: <20011129203859.11251.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Ive found an interesting behavior into Cygwin's "xmodmap". Let me spent few words to make U undestand the contex: 1) Im "playing" with this environment: "CYGWIN_NT-4.0 NICNT_CW1 1.3.2(0.39/3/2) 2001-05-20 23:28 i686" NT is WS. "Linux RedHat 7.0 (kernel 2.2.16-22)" 2) On Linux ive installed as windows makers both "Window Maker 0.62.1" "Enlightenment 0.16.5" 3) My Cygwin's startup shell's cmd execute those steps: "Path settings" "Xwin startup" "xmodman to italian keyboard" "xhost to linux box" "Cygwin's xterm" "ssh to linux box and startup an xterm there" The last xterm sets all environment stuffs like DISPLAY etc.. Well, when i start "wmaker" everything is OK, but when i run "enlightenment" it start, but i was not able to move windows or use menus. While im trying to learn how to use other fonts server i launched Xwin without the Cygwin's xmodmap, so ive setted up the italian keyb's map from linux's xterm. I started Enlightenment and it was working fine!!!! Ive done a lot of tests, using both different unix's xfs (sun, aix and elder linux's versions) and internal font's path, but my E works only if i use linux's xmodmap or i don't use it at all. I still have some True Type Fonts trouble, but now i could say it work. I hope it could help! Bye Federico PS: Just an obvios question.. Does anybody get an idea abt this beavior? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Life is beautiful, Thanx to Internet''. > > Fred Dellaca, Westport, New Zealand > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >------------------------------------------------ > > >ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY >AND GET YOUR FREE BONUS >GET STARTED ON YOUR ROAD TO FINANCIAL FREEDOM! > > >================================================= > >If you have any questions of the legality of this program, contact the >Office of Associate Director for Marketing Practices, Federal Trade >Commission, Bureau of Consumer Protection, Washington, D.C. > > >//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > >ONE TIME MAILING, NO NEED TO REMOVE > >//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > >This message is sent in compliance of the proposed bill SECTION 301, per >Section 301, Paragraph (a)(2)(C) of S. 1618. Further transmission to you >by the sender of this e-mail may be stopped at no cost to you by sending a >reply to: refymove@yahoo.com with the word Remove in the subject line. > > >-------------------------THE END---------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From facey_brian@bah.com Fri Nov 30 13:17:00 2001 From: facey_brian@bah.com (Facey Brian) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:17:00 -0000 Subject: binary Xfree86 install Message-ID: <3C07F73A.5DF23E60@bah.com> Dear Cygwin, I am eager to install a binary version of Xfree86 on Windows NT. I have Cygwin base software loaded on an NT 4 Server. I download the software avilable via ftp/http. However, it keeps prompting me for the Xmod.tgz file, which was not available. Is this file necessary? In addition, to complete a successful install are there any special environment path variables that need to be set before running Xinstall.sh? Brian Facey