Fwd: Re: Upset

Reini Urban rurban@x-ray.at
Fri Mar 30 06:27:00 GMT 2007


James R. Phillips schrieb:
> --- Igor Pechtchanski  wrote:
> 
>> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 09:07:10 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: Igor Pechtchanski 
>> To: "James R. Phillips" 
>> CC: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
>> Subject: Re: Upset (was Re: [ITP] libmad/libmad0/libmad-devel: A high-quality
>> MPEG audio decoder
>>
>> On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, James R. Phillips wrote:
>>
>>> --- Charles Wilson  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Side note: I often use an old copy of upset to generate setup.ini's for
>>>> my locally built packages which I store in a cygwin/release tree on my
>>>> private server, and add that URI to my setup.exe's URI list.  I once
>>>> advocated ("RFD: A modest proposal #2: unsupported"
>>>> http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-04/msg00306.html) having an
>>>> 'unsupported' tree on the official mirrors similar to the existing
>>>> 'release' tree but that was shot down for good reason.  IIRC at some
>>>> point in the discussion it was pointed out that the existing
>>>> functionality in setup was sufficient to solve the problem I described,
>>>> and much more flexible, and did not require official sanction from the
>>>> cygwin mirror system.
>>> How nice for you, and other long-time cygwin developers/packagers that
>>> have been grandfathered into this arrangement, because you downloaded
>>> upset when it was available, which it is not now, thus reducing the
>>> testability and quality of packages built by those not having this
>>> resource.  It must be wonderful to have powerful tools like this - kind
>>> of like having unix available in windows.
>> I've asked this before, and didn't quite understand the rationale for
>> pulling upset from CVS (I *could* understand not accepting patches for it,
>> and vetoing attempts to add it to the distribution).  Upset is a tool that
>> lets others generate external mirrors with their own packages; keeping it
>> on sourceware essentially guarantees that those mirrors will have the
>> format compatible with setup.exe.  Perhaps we could bring it back as a
>> tool to aid packagers, with the comment at the top that it's not to be
>> changed or released by anyone except CGF?
>>
>> FWIW, googling for "cygwin setup upset" brings up two versions: Yaakov's
>> (at cygwin-ports.sourceforge.net), and Reini's (at xarch.tu-graz.ac.at).
>> HTH,
>> 	Igor
>> -- 
> 
> Both these sites look interesting, and are probably of interest to a wider
> audience.  I only find a version of upset at xarch.tu-graz.ac.at.  

This is not a good version.
I still keep it because I use it to crosscheck, but the official genini 
is better.
Mine has some mksetup helper.



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