RFC: Cygwin 64 bit?

JonY jon_y@users.sourceforge.net
Mon Jun 27 00:52:00 GMT 2011


On 6/27/2011 01:59, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> 
> Right, but that wasn't what I meant.  Sorry for being unclear.  I was
> talking about the name of the Cygwin DLL.  For instance, if we decide
> that it must reside in the /bin directory, it must have a different name
> than the 32 bit dll, for instance, cygwin64-1.dll.  If we decide that
> all 64 bit applications and DLLs reside in a parallel directory, it
> could have the same name, for instance, /bin64/cygwin1.dll.
> 
> But let's not go into too much detail yet.
> 

I was thinking that we have them totally separated, so we don't need to
deal with DLL name clashes. Eg C:\Cygwin for 32bit and C:\Cygwin64 for
64bit. No need to invent bin32 or bin64.

>>> - Create a x86_64-pc-cygwin cross toolchain.
>>
>> Yeah, I suppose newlib has to be ported first.
> 
> Right, I forgot about that one.  But newlib works rather well for many
> systems, so that shouldn't be much of a problem.
> 

There's that hairy LP64 vs LLP64 issue, personally, I'd prefer the LLP64
route since Cygwin is a translation layer and will need to communicate
with Windows at the backend, but I suspect many more will want the LP64
route for Posix software compatibility.

I suppose there could be a minimalist Cygwin fork of the win32api to
make it LP64 compatible. Maybe a thunk/translator layer will be easier.

> 
> That sounds kind of funny, given that you're the mingw64 maintainer :)
> Anyway, the Win32 API and the native NT API are already in use just
> fine.  It's the porting from 32 to 64 bit which is the problem.  The
> calls will only marginally change, if at all.
> 
> There's also the fact that there isn't only core Cygwin to work on.
> Newlib, for instance.  Or any of the stuff I mentioned above.  There's
> a lot to do, I fear :}
> 
> 

Well, I do work with win32 API from time to time, but I'm unfamiliar
with the using anything more complicated, eg NTDLL and its native API
friends.

I can try checking what works or what doesn't for 64bit newlib, I hope
syscall emulation is just copy and pasting.
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