Email-Adresses in clear text

Paul Smith
Tue Sep 25 22:14:00 GMT 2007

On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 17:25 -0400, Jonathan S. Shapiro wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 18:25 +0100, Dave Korn wrote:
> >   On balance, pompous assholes like you don't deserve it.  You come in here
> > with your false assumptions, then fly off the handle when reality fails to
> > live up to them...

> You seem to be consistently missing something here. The *only* things
> that I have asked for in this entire exchange is (a) for Chris to
> exercise minimal courtesy, and (b) for the sourceware people to disclose
> their counsel's paper mail address. If the first constitutes an
> unreasonable expectation in your world, then I think you must live in a
> very unpleasant world and I feel very mildly sorry for you.

There's a lot of "missing something" going on.  Maybe a little less heat
and a little more light will help.

First, the sourceware site is a public web environment for hosting open
source projects.  Many such projects are listed there, of which crossgcc
is just one of them.  You are asking for help in the wrong place: what
you are doing is akin to going into a hospital room and asking the
patient if they can change the address on your bill.

Second, there is no real "business" here, this is a volunteer
organization.  No one's getting paid; no one is paying anything.  So
there will be no counsel available for you to contact.  Asking for legal
representation simply gets people "het up"--you're talking about
peoples' personal pocketbooks here, since there's no corporate shield.

Third, your claim that hiding email addresses is "minimal courtesy" is
actually not true, at least not in the open source world.  Here, we are
all proud of the contributions we make, since notoriety is our only
payment; obfuscating email addresses, while not uncommon, is certainly
not universal enough to be considered "common courtesy".  We have long
ago learned that hiding email addresses is largely useless, so instead
we have turned to spam filtering with a great deal of success.  And, has
been pointed out, the fact that email addresses are not hidden on the
sourceware lists is no secret: it's stated quite clearly on the web

Hope this helps diffuse the situation somewhat...

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