RFC: Add 32bit x86-64 support to binutils

David Daney ddaney@caviumnetworks.com
Thu Dec 30 20:29:00 GMT 2010


On 12/30/2010 12:12 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 12/30/2010 11:34 AM, David Daney wrote:
>>
>> My suggestion:  Since people already spend a great deal of effort
>> maintaining the existing i386 compatible Linux syscall infrastructure,
>> make your new 32-bit x86-64 Linux syscall ABI identical to the existing
>> i386 syscall ABI.  This means that the psABI must use the same size and
>> alignment rules for in-memory structures as the i386 does.
>>
>
> No, it doesn't.  It just means it need to do so *for the types used by
> the kernel*.  The kernel uses types like __u64, which would indeed have
> to be declared aligned(4).
>

Some legacy interfaces don't use fixed width types.  There almost 
certainly are some ioctls that don't use your fancy __u64.

Then there are things like ppoll() that take a pointer to:

            struct timespec {
                long    tv_sec;         /* seconds */
                long    tv_nsec;        /* nanoseconds */
            };

There are no fields in there that are controlled by __u64 either. 
Admittedly this case might not differ between the two 32-bit ABIs, but 
it shows that __u64/__u32 are not universally used in the Linux syscall 
ABIs.

If you are happy with potential memory layout differences between the 
two 32-bit ABIs, then don't specify that they are the same.  But don't 
claim that use of __u64/__u32 covers all cases.

David Daney



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