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Re: [COMMITTED] lt_LT locale: Base collation on copy "iso14651_t1" [BZ #22524]

On 2017-12-14 10:07, Mike FABIAN wrote:
> Aurelien Jarno <> さんはかきました:
> > On 2017-12-08 07:53, Mike FABIAN wrote:
> >> 
> >>             [BZ #22524]
> >>             * localedata/Makefile: Add lt_LT.UTF-8 to test-input
> >>             and to the list of locales to be built for testing.
> >>             * localedata/ New file for testing the collation.
> >>             * localedata/locales/lt_LT (LC_COLLATE): Use “copy "iso14651_t1"”
> >>             and build the collation rules upon that.
> >
> > The lt_LT locale and a few others ones (et_EE and tr_TR) used to sort
> > upper case letters before lower case ones. Basing the collation on
> > iso14651_t1 actually changes that. I don't know if the change is
> > intentional or not.
> Yes, I know. In some locales I kept it, for example in et_EE I kept
> it by adding something like this:
>     % Uppercase first:
>     % (This is not in the CLDR rules, but the old et_EE locale before I based
>     % the collation on iso_41651_t1 did uppercase first. I don’t know whether
>     % there is a good reason for this, but let’s keep it for the moment.
>     % This reimplementation of the Estonian sorting just reproduces the same
>     % order as before (except fixing some bugs,
>     % see:
>     reorder-after <RES-1>
>     <CAP>
>     <MIN>
> But actually CLDR sorts upper case first only for 3 languages:
>     mfabian@taka:/local/mfabian/src/cldr-svn/trunk/common/collation
>     $ grep 'caseFirst upper' *
>     cu.xml:[caseFirst upper]
>     da.xml:                                 [caseFirst upper]
>     mt.xml:[caseFirst upper]  # DMS MSA 200:2009
> So I’ll certainly keep it for these our Danish locale (I am currently
> updating the localedata/locales/iso14651_t1_common to the latest
> version released from ISO (see:
> And to do that I have to adapt our collation rules in many locales
> including da_DK.
> If we trust CLDR, I think we should do uppercase first only for the
> above 3 languages.
Ok thanks for the explanations. If the change is intentional, then it's
all fine. And thanks for the good work on locales.


Aurelien Jarno                          GPG: 4096R/1DDD8C9B       

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