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Re: Remove non-add-on Banner files


Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com> writes:

> On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, Tulio Magno Quites Machado Filho wrote:
>
>> > I don't see libdfp as being of any relevance to the possible removal of 
>> > the add-ons mechanism.  It used to be a glibc add-on, but that was 
>> > replaced by a standalone build system many years ago.  We have various 
>> > optional libraries in glibc such as libnsl and libmvec, controlled by 
>> > ordinary --enable options.
>> >
>> > Any libdfp integration in glibc would I expect also look very different, 
>> > as regards build system and general integration, from either the present 
>> > build system or the old add-on version.  For example, functions would be 
>> > declared directly in the relevant headers under appropriate __GLIBC_USE 
>> > conditionals (in bits/mathcalls.h in many cases - most functions should be 
>> > present for both binary and decimal types).  Tests would use the libm-test 
>> > / auto-libm-test machinery, adapted as necessary to support DFP; the vast 
>> > bulk of test inputs to most functions should be applicable to both binary 
>> > and decimal floating point.  (The actual function implementations would I 
>> > expect not need changing much for glibc.)
>> 
>> I created an issue in the libdfp project [1] to track these changes.
>> 
>> [1] https://github.com/libdfp/libdfp/issues/63
>
> It's not clear to me that what I wrote in that paragraph has much 
> relevance to the existing standalone libdfp; it was entirely about what 
> would be appropriate for a hypothetical integration in glibc, were there 
> interest in or consensus for such an integration in the first place.

If we never reach consensus, I'm going to close it.  But I think it's important
to leave traces of this discussion in the libdfp project too.

> Declaring using bits/mathcalls.h only makes sense when the functions are 
> part of glibc.  (Though it carries implications for projects that do make 
> sense for standalone libdfp: where an existing glibc libm function is 
> appropriate for DFP types but missing for them in libdfp, as is the case 
> for various TS 18661-1 functions in glibc that also exist for DFP in TS 
> 18661-2, adding the DFP versions to libdfp is appropriate.)
>
> The libm-test machinery is also not particularly designed to be separated 
> from the glibc build system; you'd need lots of local changes to use it in 
> libdfp (and lots of local changes to make it work with DFP types anyway - 
> including an MPFR equivalent for DFP in gen-auto-libm-tests, possibly 
> wrapping round GMP and MPFR and using interval arithmetic to get correctly 
> rounded DFP results).  Though if you did get it working with libdfp, I 
> expect you'd find lots of libdfp bugs that need fixing, e.g. the libdfp 
> lgamma / tgamma implementations have issues I fixed in glibc some time 
> ago, so making those tests work with libdfp could lead to significant 
> improvements in libdfp code quality.

Ack.

-- 
Tulio Magno


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