Re: [RFC][PATCH v8 06/16] Provide backward compatibility for strftime family (bug 10871).

[Rafal Luzynski <digitalfreak at lingonborough dot com>]

27.07.2017 18:15 Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> wrote:
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> On 06/28/2017 12:22 PM, Rafal Luzynski wrote:
> > Also I keep in mind that this reinterpretation is the same as what BSD
> > family did about 20 years ago and what POSIX accepted as their future
> > change.
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> I looked at this last year (or earlier this year), and FreeBSD did not
> make this change wholesale. Their system wass in an inconsistent
> transitional state. So I don't FreeBSD is a good argument against or in
> favor this change.

I also checked FreeBSD earlier this year and indeed I noticed some
problems but I'm not sure if they were the same problems which you
noticed.  I think it's you who provided an output of cal command
line utility with Catalan locales.  I investigated this problem and
it is a bug in Catalan locale database which has been introduced
only recently.

I'm not sure what you mean by "inconsistent transitional state".
Do you mean that not all applications which should have adopted this
new %OB format have adopted it yet?  I usually hesitate from saying
this because it requires a proper survey but I'm pretty sure that
if we decide the other way (leave %B for nominative/standalone case
and introduce %OB to display genitive/full-date-context case)
the situation would be much worse because almost all applications
which display dates would have to be transitioned.

Since we are in the hard freeze period and 2.26 release is just
around the corner I think this will not be included in 2.26.
I wonder what else can I/we do to deliver my solution to some limited
but representative group of testers to see what impact to the real
applications would it bring.  I have my copr repo but I'm not aware of
any people actually using it.  Could it be included as a downstream
patch in Fedora Rawhide but not yet any GA release?  Sorry for being
Fedora-centric, seeing @redhat.com in your address I hope that's not
a big fault.

Regards,

Rafal