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Re: Linux-abi group
- From: Suprateeka R Hegde <hegdesmailbox at gmail dot com>
- To: "H.J. Lu" <hjl dot tools at gmail dot com>, Joseph Myers <joseph at codesourcery dot com>
- Cc: GCC Development <gcc at gcc dot gnu dot org>, GNU C Library <libc-alpha at sourceware dot org>, llvm-commits <llvm-commits at lists dot llvm dot org>, cfe-commits <cfe-commits at lists dot llvm dot org>, Binutils <binutils at sourceware dot org>
- Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 15:56:56 +0530
- Subject: Re: Linux-abi group
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I think we are fragmenting with too many standards and mailing lists.
This new discussion group and eventually the resulting standards, all
might be put under LSB http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/lsb.shtml
The Intro on LSB says:
And thats what this proposal is intended for.
And we can use the LSB mailing list
https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/lsb-discuss for all
What do you think?
On 09-Feb-2016 08:46 AM, H.J. Lu via llvm-commits wrote:
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Joseph Myers <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
On Mon, 8 Feb 2016, H.J. Lu wrote:
I was referring to program properties:
This looks more like an ELF topic to me, not really ABI.
Please discuss this on a GNU project list because it affects the
entire GNU project.
gABI is ELF and affects all users, including GNU project, of gABI.
Linux-abi discusses Linux-specific extensions to gABI. It is for tools
like compilers, assembler, linker and run-time. It isn't appropriate
for any GNU project list.
I find it extremely unlikely that many well-thought-out extensions would
be appropriate for GNU systems using the Linux kernel but not for GNU
systems using Hurd or other kernels - the only such cases would be for
things very closely related to kernel functionality. There is a strong
presumption that toolchain configuration should apply to all GNU systems
rather than being specific to GNU/Linux without good reason.
Most of extensions aren't Linux kernel specific. But some extensions
will require kernel support to function properly.