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Re: [ANNOUNCE] OSELAS.Toolchain() 1.1.0 released


Robert Schwebel wrote:
Hildesheim, Germany - Pengutronix has released version 1.1.0 of the Open
Source GNU toolchain build system OSELAS.Toolchain(). It can be used to
build cross compilers for a variety of embedded Linux systems,
Can you elaborate this? Is for instance the OpenWRT an "embedded Linux system"?
And can producing fully working apps using crosscompiling to this already existing
Linux be possible in any way?


For me this looks being one of these "Linux from scratch" approaches, not producing
crosstools for any existing systems! That it really isn't aimed for cases where the target
system already exists and the toolchain builder has no aims to replace any runtime parts
(kernel, glibc, GUI-runtimes,...) on the target, should be CLEARLY told so that no
misunderstandings about the purpose of the "toolchain build system" would appear!


As we don't want to split the community in any way, we suggest that for
discussions related to OSELAS.Toolchain() the crosstool mailing list is
used, being the main community ressource for cross toolchain related
topics. Please check the OSELAS.Toolchain() project page for how to find
the crosstool mailing list.
Nothing like a separate maillist for 'crosstool' was seen ! Instead there was :

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This project has no own mailing list. Please use the crossgcc mailing list for all
OSELAS.Toolchain() related questions.


      http://sources.redhat.com/ml/crossgcc/
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The "crossgcc" maillist purpose is told to be :

It is a list for discussing embedded ('cross') programming using the GNU tools.

Nothing hints about any "crosstool-only" purposes! Traditionally the crossgcc maillist
has been for discussion about "toolchains for embedded systems", and my thought is that
it could be better to remain being that. This meaning those newlib-based toolchains for
systems which have the cross GCC as the default and ONLY GCC type, meanwhile for
all the Linuces the default GCC type is still the native GCC -- even for those "embedded
Linuces" ! But also subjects related to crosstoolchains for other "system targets": Solarises,
AIX, SVR4, Cygwin, MinGW, the usual "Linux distros", were once discussed on the
"crossgcc" maillist.... Not any more :-(


Now all this discussion about cross GCCs seems to have moved to the 'gcc-help' maillist
and somewhere else, even the discussion for those "newlib based" crosstoolchains, which
still by the definition at 'sources.redhat.com', should be the main subject on the crossgcc
maillist!


The "Please check the OSELAS.Toolchain() project page for how to find the crosstool
mailing list", ie using "crosstool" instead of "crossgcc", is really vomit-making as if the
"crossgcc" = "crosstool" would really be the fact!


So trying to make a separate "crosstool" maillist for the "Linux From Scratch" people would
be much, much more sane!



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