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Re: [PATCHv2 2/4] Cleanup hp-timing defines

On 07/02/2019 12:00, Wilco Dijkstra wrote:
> Hi Adhemerval,
>> I think since we are touching it, we should aim to clean up the hp-timing
>> usage not only for benchtests. Current internal hp-timing usage should be
>> aimed for time profiling and we can clean up its internal usage since:
> Yes it makes sense to remove all internal use of hp-timing except for
> benchmarking and rtld profiling.
>>  - clock_gettime, clock_settime, clock_getres, clock_nanosleep support
>>    neither on Linux nor on Hurd. It also means that assuming clock_*
>>    syscall always support such clock ids, pthread_clock_gettime.c
>>    and pthread_clock_settime.c are also unused. Which also leads to
>>    note that _dl_cpuclock_offset is also set and not used for none of
>>    the hp-timing architectures.
> Getting rid of the badly hacked emulation of clock_gettime etc allows for a
> lot of code to be removed. It's clearly not needed for Linux, but what about Hurd?

Hurd currently does not use hp-timing i686 implementation and thus 
for clock_gettime, clock_settime, clock_getres, clock_nanosleep.

I am not sure how complex it would be to implement this on hurd.
Mostly of the __pthread_clock_gettime/__pthread_clock_settime nptl
implementation is generic, but hurd will need at least to:

  - Add the cpuclock_offset on 'struct __pthread' and states it is
    correct initialized on thread creation.

  - It will require to implement the __get_clockfreq which mostly
    require kernel support (as a side note my proposed cleanup
    we can remove Linux __get_clockfreq support).

  - For CLOCK_THREAD_CPUTIME_ID on architectures that support hp-timing
    a thread can 'encode' a tid on clock_id to set/get the timer for
    a different thread (done using __find_thread_by_id).  This is not
    used anymore on Linux since it uses syscall for the clock_id, but
    generic implementation still uses it.

Also taking in consideration that providing CLOCK_PROCESS_CPUTIME_ID
and CLOCK_THREAD_CPUTIME_ID have multiple issues (with some details
in man-pages for referred functions), I think if Hurd eventually
wants to support them it should either either implement in a kernel
facility (or something related due its architecture) or in system
specific implementation (on hurd/). 

Using hp-timing for such clock_ids is just hacky and I see no sense 
in using them on generic interface.

>>  - same for sysconf, where assuming CLOCK_THREAD_CPUTIME_ID and
>>    CLOCK_PROCESS_CPUTIME_ID support we can get rid of hp-timing usage.
>>  - the remaining 3 usages of hp-timing for some sort of randomness
>>    at resolv/res_mkquery.c, resolv/res_send.c, and sysdeps/posix/tempname.c
>>    could be replaced to clock_gettime (CLOCK_MONOTONIC) instead.
>>    If randomness is really required I think we should refactor to 
>>    use a better source (getrandom/getentropy).
> In all cases we don't need true randomness, just a fast random number to
> reduce collisions. It seems best to abstract these cases into an internal interface.

It seems reasonable, I will refactor my patchset to add this internal

>> Also, I understand why you refactor removes profiling for alpha
>> (since it is hp-timing support is sketchy at least and sit simplifies
>> the benchtests inclusion of generic implementation). However I think 
>> we can still maintain it supports by enable the architecture hp-timing 
>> support only for rtld.
> Yes that's feasible.
>> Based on that I created a branch [1] with the above refactor along with
>> your suggestion to add a generic hp-timing based on clock_gettime. What
>> do you think?
> It looks like a good cleanup. Are you planning to post patches for this, either
> subsuming my patches or on top of my cleanup?

I was planning to get your feedback first, if it is ok I plan to send
the patchset along with some more cleanups (__get_clockfreq removal
and internal interface for random number based on clock_gettime).

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