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Re: [RFC][PATCH] Multiple locales: Use the correct date and time formats (bug 10496, 23724).
- From: Rafal Luzynski <digitalfreak at lingonborough dot com>
- To: TAMUKI Shoichi <tamuki at linet dot gr dot jp>
- Cc: libc-alpha at sourceware dot org
- Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 10:58:39 +0100 (CET)
- Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Multiple locales: Use the correct date and time formats (bug 10496, 23724).
- References: <240928059.373269.1543357574057@poczta.nazwa.pl> <201812081235.AA04131@tamuki.linet.gr.jp>
8.12.2018 13:35 TAMUKI Shoichi <tamuki@linet.gr.jp> wrote:
>
> Hello Rafal,
>
> I am sorry for this delayed reply.
Same here, I am sorry for my delay, too.
> From: Rafal Luzynski <digitalfreak@lingonborough.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Multiple locales: Use the correct date and time
> formats (bug 10496, 23724).
> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 23:26:13 +0100 (CET)
>
> > > By the way,
> > >
> > > "9:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m."
> > >
> > > in English is translated as
> > >
> > > "9:00 e paradites - 5:00 e pasdites"
> > >
> > > in Albanian.
> > >
> > > So, should we include such a representation?
> >
> > It is not in glibc, is it? I think that glibc is correct regarding
> > this.
>
> There is not such a usage in glibc, indeeed, but according to CLDR,
> it seems to be used the indicator above.
>
> http://www.unicode.org/cldr/charts/28/verify/dates/sq.html
I am looking at this page:
http://st.unicode.org/cldr-apps/v#/sq/Gregorian/
and indeed, this does not mention PD and MD but does mention "p.d." and
"m.d.". So I believe these shortcuts are known in Albania, this is not
anything artificially invented by glibc developers.
> Also, it seems that such expressions are commonly used. For example:
>
> https://www.chess.com/sq/al/tv
Thank you, this is a valuable feedback.
> On the other hand, there is PD/MD indicator as am_pm in sq_AL locale
> in glibc. I do not know whether this is commonly used, but parhaps
> this may not be a problem.
Yes. I believe it has been added for good reasons. Also nobody
complained about it so I am not going to touch this. Also I think
that PD and MD are good for clock widgets, "e paradites" and "e pasdites"
may be too long to fit in the limited screen space.
The bugs I am trying to fix are about the missing AM/PM indicator and
about wrong date format (that's spotted by myself, mixing numerical
format with words looks very suspicious), there was no complain about how
the AM/PM indicator looks.
I have few Albanian friends and I have asked them for some feedback.
They are generally OK with these changes I'm proposing here regarding
their language. Also I hope that if I do anything wrong they will
contact me quickly.
Regards,
Rafal