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Re: [PATCH] Revert Abortion joke removal.
[snipping comments on consensus because we've beaten it to death]
On 05/08/2018 11:44 PM, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
However, we all realize there is such a community power, though I won't
equate the community threatening to exercise that power right now with
the entire community of glibc contributors and developers. Part of that
power is that of mobilizing a mob (redundant much? :-) to overthrow a
leader. None of that is unheard of.
However, what we have now is a balance in place. There is a de jure
authority, that has appointed maintainers and can occasionally request
inserts or removes to be made in the interest of the project as a whole.
That power is kept in check by the community collective power to fork.
A single ultimate authority is not a balance of power. And therein lies
the difference between your perception of the GNU project and mine. You
see it as the all-powerful being that will intervene whenever there is
imbalance in this universe. I see it as a custodian of our copyright
that should have the resources to fight on our behalf if our rights are
violated.
Now, what some seem to wish for is unchecked, absolute power for the
community, which, given the selective application of the non-unanimity
motto, means absolute power for a few leaders, who could then deviate
from GNU however much they like.
Who suggested deviation from GNU in this thread? Do you realize the
gravity of accusing people of conspiring to deviate from GNU?
I do not see any merit in that silly joke so disagreeing with him and
asking him for a justification or a modification does not constitute
an insult.
Consider "I do not see any merit in your silly argument so disagreeing
with you and asking you for a justification or a modification does not
constitute an insult. I'll just strike your argument out of the records
and proceed."
Please revisit my critique of the joke. I called it silly here and not
during the discussion. Also, I've called the joke silly here, not him.
Also do read the discussion that I am having with RMS, it is decidedly
more grown up than you seem to think, maybe because you see him as a
deity who must not be questioned, only cajoled and worshiped.
Also, please stop trying to defend RMS, I'm sure he is capable of
doing that for himself.
Wow, really? If we weren't all on the same side, I might almost mistake
that as "don't help him, you're making it harder for us to beat him up!"
Do you realize suppression of dissent and isolation of opponents are
features of authoritarian regimes?
Read my whole statement. I said your defence of RMS is making *him*
look bad because you're busy projecting him as a deity. He doesn't
appear as thin skinned as you seem to think (or maybe has has the
ability to rebound) because he seems to be back and making more coherent
arguments elsewhere in the thread.
Siddhesh