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On Thu, Oct 29, 1998 at 01:56:46PM -0500, it occurred to Jim Blandy to write: > > > Where's this text from? > > http://www.red-bean.com/guile/notes/ideas.html > > > Anyway, I've gotten this to a somewhat workable state, though it > > still needs finishing and is currently on hold (not too much > > interest..). It's in gnome cvs, in gimp-plugins-unstable/gimple. > > > I haven't touched it in a couple of months, though, so it might not work with > > recent guile and guile-gtk.. > > > > Anyway, the long term plan is to make gimp use CORBA for external > > communication, so ultimately, a guile interface for ORBit is more > > important. (Note that ORBit doesn't have proper DII or DSI working yet, > > though) > > Here's what I'm going for (Jim's political ambitions come to light): I > want Guile to be the default system for doing script-fu. If a > newcomer asks, "What is this script-fu thing, and how do I get some?" > then I want them to end up with Guile installed on their system. Hee. I think one of the reasons why we haven't yet made the transition to guile is that guile is rather a big dependency, if you can't do scripting without it. It's only a matter of time, though.. > How do people get script-fu now? Is SIOD distributed with the GIMP? Yes. It's so small you don't easily notice it, though. :) > For political reasons, I want Guile to be as "primary" as SIOD. > By spring 1999, Guile should be far enough along that I'll be able to > give you technical reasons too. Um, you don't need too many technical reasons to justify replacing SIOD. :) The main problem with guile is currently - you guessed it - startup speed. Currently I have resolved this with the usual server hack. Actually, since guile 1.3 is now out, and guile-gtk is pretty mature too, the interfaces are probably stable enough to make gimple a full gimp extension. If it is to replace script-fu, it has to be able to run siod code for backwards compatibility. Gimple can currently do this pretty well (with lotsa syntax hacks), but not perfectly. Phew.. as if I wasn't busy enough already.. Lauri Alanko la@iki.fi