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I think (db ...) is fine --- abbreviations in general are confusing, but I don't think that one is. I think the problem of supporting SQL-like databases pretty different from supporting simple things like Berkeley DB, GDBM, and so on. So let's keep those distinct. But I think it would be dumb for Maciej and I to try to decide much more than that. So, limiting ourselves to the SQL-like databases, could someone volunteer to get together a group of the people who know something about databases? I'd like those folks to: - come up with a proposal for namespace structure within (db ...), - design our complement to Perl's DBI interface, and - provide a sample implementation for at least one database, based on one of the existing sql interfaces. I don't care if you have the discussion on this list, or elsewhere, but please subscribe me if you create a new list. Requirements: - We need a uniform interface, with ideas stolen from Perl's DBI. - We need to be able to easily talk to multiple databases, from different vendors, at one time. Beyond that, do what makes sense. :)