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I compared the startup time (on my Sparc Ultra) between a snapshot from 980721 and the 1.3 release: 970718 1.48 s 980721 1.04 s 1.3 4.68 s That is, 1.3 is three times slower than 970718 and 4.5 times slower than 980721. So, we have to look for a change between July 21 and now. (Generally, I think it is a good idea to do benchmarks before and after changes everytime you change something which is time critical.) /mdj