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RE: [PATCH 2/2] btrace: avoid symbol lookup
- From: "Metzger, Markus T" <markus dot t dot metzger at intel dot com>
- To: Jan Kratochvil <jan dot kratochvil at redhat dot com>
- Cc: "gdb-patches at sourceware dot org" <gdb-patches at sourceware dot org>, "Pedro Alves (palves at redhat dot com)" <palves at redhat dot com>
- Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 09:21:11 +0000
- Subject: RE: [PATCH 2/2] btrace: avoid symbol lookup
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jan Kratochvil [mailto:jan.kratochvil@redhat.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 9:37 AM
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 08:55:33 +0100, Metzger, Markus T wrote:
> > > I do not think providing incorrect behavior for performance reasons is a
> valid
> > > tradeoff. The right way would be to fix the DWARF lookups to be fast
> > > enough.
> [...]
> > The only actual change in functionality I was able to observe was missing
> > parens for the main function,
>
> I agree in 99.9% of usecases it will work the same. This still does not prove
> it is correct.
>
> I believe I can create a reproducer with two overlapping functions:
> 0..1: a()
> 2..3: b()
> 4..6: a()
> 7..8: b()
> properly describe by DW_AT_ranges which will work with former GDB but
> which
> will no longer work with patched GDB.
>
> This may definitely happen for some user .S code with hand-coded DWARF.
> I do not say it necessarilly happens with any real world compiler output.
>
> This may happen for gdb.dwarf2/dw2-objfile-overlap.exp which comes from
> a real
> world case of Linux kernel modules mapping.
>
> But maybe I miss something and I would fail to create the reproducer, if you
> do not agree I can create a .S with hand coded DWARF I can try to create one.
No need. I certainly agree that one can write such an assembly file and that
one can describe this in DWARF but not in ELF.
To describe this in ELF one would split a and b and thus end up with 4 functions -
that's what compilers seem to be doing today. And they also seem to emit
DWARF that describes it that way.
> Corner cases are the ones most difficult to debug and it is a pity when
> debugger provides incorrect output in such corner cases.
I agree.
> As I said maybe this compromise is acceptable as it may not be hit in real
> world usage cases but I do not want to make this decision.
If you just look hard enough, I guess you will find everything somewhere.
Those who use compilers, on the other hand, may not even be able to
tell the difference - except that it's faster which allows them to use
bigger buffers and thus record longer traces.
> > I think the compromise is rather between a nice, general solution that
> > benefits everybody and a local solution that only benefits btrace
>
> This is the second reason why I did not agree with the patch. GDB needs to
> be
> faster and if this PC->functionname mapping can be accelerated such way
> then
> it should be done globally.
The specific problem of btrace is that it needs to do a huge number of symbol
lookups within a single GDB command. I do not know any other GDB command
that gets anywhere near to that.
Regards,
Markus.
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