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Re: Question about Cygwin's select()

On 10/19/2011 4:30 PM, Jon Clugston wrote:
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Ken Brown<> wrote:
On 10/19/2011 1:32 PM, Ken Brown wrote:

On 10/19/2011 12:22 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote:

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 04:49:10PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:

On Oct 19 09:28, Ken Brown wrote:

I'm trying to debug an emacs problem, and I'm running into something I don't understand involving Cygwin's select. I'll try to make an STC if necessary, but I thought I'd start with a verbal description in case there's an easy answer. Here's the situation:

emacs creates a subprocess running gdb and sends a bunch of commands
to gdb without immediately reading the resulting output. emacs then
goes into a loop in which it waits for keyboard input and
periodically calls select to check for output from subprocesses.
The first call to select has a 30 second timeout and *always* fails
with EINTR. As a result, emacs doesn't read the output from gdb
right away and doesn't properly initialize the gdb buffer.
Subsequent calls to select sometimes succeed and sometimes fail.
When I'm running emacs under gdb and stepping through it, the buffer
eventually gets initialized. When I'm running emacs outside of gdb,
the buffer doesn't get initialized until I press Return.

I have a simple workaround for this, but I'd like to be sure there
isn't some underlying bug that I'm masking with the workaround. So
my question is this: Is there some reason that I should expect that
first call to select to consistently fail with EINTR, or might this
indicate a bug?

I realize that it might not be possible to answer the question based
on the information I've provided, but I thought it was worth a try.

Some details are missing like the objects used to communicate with GDB. Does Emacs use a pseudo tty or a pipe? Is that with Cygwin from CVS or with 1.7.9? And what's your workaround? The EINTR sounds weird. A testcase would be most helpful.

It isn't clear if you're getting the EINTR by looking at strace output or from the code. If it's strace then be aware that sometimes the output just reports the current errno regardless of whether there is an error or not.

I'm getting the EINTR by examining errno while running the program under gdb. But thanks for the heads-up about strace. I didn't know that.

I don't have a testcase yet, but I have a clearer idea of what's happening. It actually has nothing to do with the gdb subprocess, but rather is a problem that can occur whenever emacs is running its main command loop. emacs polls for keyboard input while also using select to check for output from subprocesses. It's in this setting that select often fails with EINTR, even when there are no subprocesses running. I wonder if the keyboard polling is doing something that interrupts the select call.

Unfortunately, the keyboard code (in src/keyboard.c) is full of alarms and
timers and other things I know nothing about, so it's not going to be easy
for me to come up with an STC.  I'll see if I can get help on the
emacs-devel list.


Any code calling "select" (and many other kernel calls) must handle the case of the call returning EINTR for many (or no particular) reason(s). If emacs is assuming certain calls under certain conditions will never return EINTR, then it is definitely not written robustly.

emacs does handle the EINTR. Sorry if I suggested otherwise. I was just surprised that I was getting that error so often, and I thought it was responsible for the gdb problem I was seeing. I'll keep debugging.


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