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Re: displaying Windows program on Linux via ssh / X?
- From: Andrew DeFaria <Andrew at DeFaria dot com>
- To: cygwin at cygwin dot com
- Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:55:08 -0700
- Subject: Re: displaying Windows program on Linux via ssh / X?
- References: <42AF2A0E.2050804@mch.one.pl>
Tomasz Chmielewski wrote:
I couldn't find it on Google and I feel it's a different thing than
running Linux X applications (like xterm etc.), which is done by
Cygwin/X.
Is it possible to "display" Windows program on Linux via ssh / X?
What I mean, normally we do something like that:
windows_cygwin$ ssh -l user linuxbox -X
linuxbox$ xterm
and we start xterm on Linux, but it is displayed by a Windows X server.
I want to do something in an opposite direction: start Windows apps on
Linux display:
linuxbox$ ssh -l user windows_cygwin -X
windows_cygwin$ notepad
or
windows_cygwin$ iexplore.exe
And these Windows applications would be displayed on my Linux.
Is it possible with Cygwin?
You are making an assumption that MS Windows was designed as a networked
windowing system. It's not. It's not Cygwin's fault nor X windows fault
rather it is MS' fault in that their concept of GUI windowed apps is not
cleanly divided into the client/server paradigm. I believe that Windows
apps are built with an assumption that they are running locally and have
access to the local heap including data structures that are unique to
Windows. In X parlance I believe that such structures would normally be
stored in the X server.
Indeed Windows apps have no concept of the DISPLAY environment variable
and assume that DISPLAY is always localhost.
That said there are ways....
The only way that I've seen, aside from an application specifically
written to display on another system, is Remote Desktop. There are
Remote Desktop clients for Linux that "play" RDP protocol to a Windows
box that is running, effectively, the server component of RDP. By
default Windows XP (Pro that is) has this software and allows 1 (count
'em 1!) remote desktop connection. Additionally when you RDP to a Window
XP box you'll notice the following: 1) The local desktop is gone! It is
taken back to the "Welcome screen" or login screen. IOW, "Sorry, still
not multiuser - graphically at least - only one person or desktop can be
active". If the local user attempts to login again the RDP session is
disconnected. And 2) it's all or nothing! When you RDP the whole desktop
gets displayed at the workstation that's running the RDP client. You
cannot, for example, simply run notepad through RDP. You instead get
notepad, the Taskbar, all other running apps, etc. all displayed in a
window representing the remote desktop.
The server component, RDP server, comes with XP Pro with one "license"
or the ability to RDP only once. Windows Server (2000 and up) comes with
a whopping 2 "licenses" though more can be purchased. Additionally on
Windows Server the local desktop is still active. You can effectively
have up to 3 people logged in graphically as even 3 different users
before you need to start purchasing additional licenses...
For Linux there are various rdesktop clients.
Now what if you don't XP Pro or Windows Server? Well there's always VNC
(and other products such as PCAnywhere). These products provide both the
server and client portions necessary to do this. They do not, however,
use RDP protocol but something else. As a result they are much slower
but give the interesting effect of not changing the local desktop. You
can sit there and watch somebody else moving your mouse cursor and
typing in stuff. As a result both the remote party and the local party
can control the same desktop at the same time.
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