RE: Upgraded man command

[Igor Pechtchanski <pechtcha at cs dot nyu dot edu>]

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Andy Hall wrote:

> Igor -
>
> I don't have /etc/postinstall/man.sh but I do have man.sh.done.  After
> looking at the latter, I simply ran it as you suggested. It seemed to do
> just what was required without error.  I will take your advice and check the
> other postinstall scripts as well.  The setup.log says it ran.

What you should be looking at is setup.log.full (if it's still valid) --
that's where the output of the scripts is stored.

> BTW the way my mailer is OutLook (Look Out!) so I am not sure what you are
> asking me to do in the way of display names.  Are you recommending I use the
> cygwin mailer for this stuff?

Nope.  See <http://www.google.com/search?q=outlook+PCYMTNQREAIYR>.

> I am not sure it is totally the -r option in less.  My memory fades quickly,
> but I think the man -d was showing less -r when I was having the problem.

Umm, it's right there in the message below... :-)  And it shows "less -is".

> All is well now.
>
> Andy

Good.
	Igor

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:pechtcha@XX.XXX.XXX]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:32 AM
> To: Andy Hall
> Cc: cygwin@XXXXXX.XXX
> Subject: RE: Upgraded man command
>
> Andy,
>
> Do you have both /etc/postinstall/man.sh and /etc/postinstall/man.sh.done?
> If so, then the newer version of the postinstall script has not completed
> properly.  I'd run /etc/postinstall/man.sh and then rename it to
> /etc/postinstall/man.sh.done.  If the only thing you have is
> /etc/postinstall/man.sh.done, then that's the script that you'll need to
> re-run (don't worry about the timestamp, it doesn't have to be after the
> install time).  When you copied the default config file, you did part of
> the job of that postinstall script (AFAICS, creating manpath.exe is the
> other part, hence the question).
>
> What I'd be worried about if I were you is that none of the postinstall
> scripts on that particular upgrade may have run properly.  It might make
> sense to see for all packages that you upgraded what the postinstall
> scripts were supposed to do, and whether they did it.
>
> Two more points: first, <http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR>.  And
> second, a small correction to my statement below -- the "-Tascii" is not a
> problem, it was the fact that "less" was missing the "-r" flag.
> 	Igor
>
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, Andy Hall wrote:
>
> > Perhaps not everything is as it should be....
> >
> > 1. /bin/manpath.exe is missing
> > 2. /etc/postinstall/man.sh.done is there but it was modified on a date
> > preceding the date I upgraded.
> > 3. No errors for man.sh in /var/logs/setup and it shows it was run.
> >
> > But.... I simply copied the man.conf.default to man.conf, ensured the
> > options matched yours and it now works.  Go figure.
> >
> > Thanks for the help.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:pechtcha@XX.XXX.XXX]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:22 PM
> > To: Andy Hall
> > Cc: cygwin@XXXXXX.XXX
> > Subject: RE: Upgraded man command
> >
> > On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, Andy Hall wrote:
> >
> > > Igor -
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply. This is a complete mystery to me.  See answers
> > > to your questions below.
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:pechtcha@XX.XXX.XXX]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:46 AM
> > > To: Andy Hall
> > > Cc: cygwin@XXXXXX.XXX
> >
> > <http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR>.  Thanks.
> >
> > > Subject: Re: Upgraded man command
> > >
> > > > On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, Andy Hall wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I updated my cygwin system on my W2K SP4 systemto the latest
> > > > > release of cygwin and the man command started to display man
> > > > > pages as follows:
> > > > >
> > > > > ESC[1mNAMEESC[0m
> > > > >        ln - make links between files
> > > > >
> > > > > ESC[1mSYNOPSISESC[0m
> > > > >        ESC[1mln ESC[22m[ESC[4mOPTIONESC[24m]... ESC[4mTARGETESC[24m
> > > > > [ESC[4mLINK_NAMEESC[24m]
> > > > >        ESC[1mln ESC[22m[ESC[4mOPTIONESC[24m]... ESC[4mTARGETESC[24m...
> > > > > ESC[4mDIRECTORYESC[0m
> > > > >        ESC[1mln ESC[22m[ESC[4mOPTIONESC[24m]...
> > > > > ESC[4m--target-directory=DIRECTORYESC[24m ESC[4mTARGETESC[24m...
> > > > >
> > > > > Interestingly, the man pages previously cached in /usr/man/cat1
> > > > > seem to format just fine.  If I remove the cached version, I get
> > > > > something akin to the above.
> > > > >
> > > > > I suspect this is some sort of setup problem, but I have been
> > > > > unable to track it down.  All involved commands seem to be
> > > > > up-to-date.
> > > >
> > > > I see that neither of MANPAGER, PAGER, and LESS is set in your
> > > > environment.
> > >
> > > Right.  I use a pretty vanilla system for testing a fairly large
> > > messaging system.  I tend to stay away from environment variables if
> > > I can.
> > >
> > > > Are you running straight "man", or is it aliased to
> > > > something?
> > >
> > > Straight man.
> > >
> > > > Is your /usr/share/misc/man.conf different from
> > > > /usr/share/misc/man.conf.default?
> > >
> > > There is no /usr/share/misc/man.conf.  Do I need one?  I should
> > > think not.
> >
> > You do, actually.  It was supposed to have been created by the "man"
> > postinstall script.  Since you don't have it, I assume the postinstall
> > scripts didn't run correctly, and so you might have a misconfigured
> > system.
> >
> > Check if you have a /bin/manpath.exe as a symlink to man.exe.  Also check
> > that you have a /etc/postinstall/man.sh.done (not /etc/postinstall/man.sh).
> > If you happened to not run setup.exe after that upgrade, please also look
> > in /var/log/setup.log.full to see if you got any error messages from
> > /etc/postinstall/man.sh.
> >
> > > > If it is, the differences might give you a clue as to what went wrong.
> > > >  What is the output of "man -cd ln | tail -1"?
> > >
> > > Well the tail -1 did not work so the output of man -d must be on stderr.
> >
> > Umm, yeah, sorry, that should have been "man -cd ln 2>&1 | tail -1".
> >
> > > Any way the last lines are:
> > >
> > > not executing command:
> > >   (cd "/usr/man" && (echo ".pl 11i"; cat '/usr/man/man1/ln.1') |
> > /usr/bin/tbl | /usr/bin/groff -Tascii -mandoc | less -is)
> >
> > Aha.  There you go.  It's the -Tascii that's the problem, as well as the
> > less flags.  In my installation, the command is as follows:
> >
> >   (cd "/usr/man" && (echo ".pl 11i"; /usr/bin/cat '/usr/man/man1/ln.1') |
> > /usr/bin/tbl | /usr/bin/nroff -c -mandoc | /usr/bin/less -isrR)
> >
> > The commands above come from /usr/share/misc/man.conf, so yes, you do
> > need it.
> >
> > > I do know from experimentation that the zipped versions of the man
> > > pages produced by the updated man command are different from the ones
> > > produced by the old man command.
> >
> > I'm not sure what you mean.  The zipped versions of the man pages aren't
> > produced by the man command.  They are used as inputs to the man command.
> > 	Igor

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