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Re: cygwin compiled on Linux for Wiindows
- From: Jani tiainen <redetin at luukku dot com>
- To: Bobby McNulty <bobbymcn at bellsouth dot net>, Cygwin List <cygwin at cygwin dot com>
- Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:38:41 +0300
- Subject: Re: cygwin compiled on Linux for Wiindows
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Bobby McNulty wrote:
Jani tiainen wrote:
Bobby McNulty Junior wrote:OK. So I don't need a copyright assignment. What if I wanted to make
changes to the Cygwin dll and wanted to turn those over to the Cygwin
team to be incl.uded in the dll for others to use?
I'm build Cygwin on Linux. This will be transfered to Windows.
In other other words, guys, I'm back to pragramming for Cygwin.
Do I have to turn in a copyright assignment? i don't work for a
company. I'm freelance.
This is my hobby.
Where these started to came from..?
Don't confuse copyright and license. They are two different subjects
and partly different laws applies to them, copyright is covered by
copyright laws, license is basically contract between you and other
people and is covered by contract (or similiar) laws.
If you compile it under Cygwin _and_ link your app against _any_ GPL
library (including cygwin1.dll in Windoze) your application license
must be GPL. You still hold copyright for your original work (and your
later modifications) and thus can do anything with that piece of code
eg. there is some examples (like MySQL) that uses dual licensing, one
which is GPL and one commercial.
Well, you don't need, but copyright assignment is automatical in most
cases, so you do have copyright for your own work, wanted or not (see
later text).. =)
Well, since cygwin is GPL licensed you can change how ever you fit in
your purpose as long as you publish sources.
But for Cygwin community it's better to use "official" channels to
maintain changes etc. There is FAQ and docs about that in Cygwin site.
I really would like to have my users (or anyone who wanted to uses these
programs) to be able to use them. If I could, I would rather just
distribuute the current DLL and the source code to the DLL and the
program I was working on at the time.
Well you can distribute cygwin1.dll and sources for it or point out
users to install Cygwin.
I know what GPL is. I understand that Cygwin requires a copyright
assignmnent. But. I'm freelance. I don't have an employer, so as far as
that goes. I can't contribute because i don't have a job.
Now you got it wrong. Copyright is something that you "can't buy",
copyright is property for something you create and you own copyright to
your work, exclusively without any special assignment. If you're working
for a company in most cases programs that you create at your work time
are copyrighted by that company, nyt by you as individual. But on the
other times, copyright is owned by you.
GPL in turn is a license, a contract, an agreement that how you can use
that particular piece of work. One of essential parts of GPL is to
permit others to modify and pass those modifications further, but they
have to publish their modifications.
On the other,
I am profiecient in C, BASIC and Pascal. So I can make the mods needed
to the dll. I can follow the bug report givin by the faulty program, and
I can repair it. I'm not stupid, you see, I've been programming since
1983. C since 1987, Pascal since 1988. Out of all those, my favorite
language is C. I have an internet buddy who was using Turbo C in 1996. I
had been leaning Mix Power C. I got real good at it. Graphics was a
speciality. But I could to other things. I wrote a program one day that
would only pretend to delete files off of a hard drive. Pretend is the
key. It never overwrote anything. And to stop it, simple. I had it set
up so a simple CTRL C would stop it.
All it did was read a file to simulate erasing a file. My friend added
that. I was just using the program as a joke, and I had a severe mood
swing. Big deal. That program is lost, along with others I had worked
on. My goal about the Cygwin Dll is to make it compatible with new
versions of Windows as they come out. That is all. I'm using Windows XP
and Linux. Under Windows XP, I have Cygwin. In an 8 GB section of my
hard drive I have Linux. So, I can use all three at any time.
If there is a problem, I can get right at it. I'm quick at solving
problems. Over on Linux, I'm building autoconf 2.59, automake 1.9.1,
binutils 2.15, and gcc 3.4.2. When I get back to Linux in a bit, I'm
finishing what i started. My dad had an emergency. He could not get out
on the internet. I found the problem. For some reasone, Internet
Explorer was set to a webpage on his drive that called for a DNS error.
Claimed it could not get out. I looked at that. He told me that the
Antivirus program could get update. I used Internet Options and reset to
home page to MSN. Now, he can get out.
I've been solving my family's program since they each recieved
computers. My mom in 1997, my dad since 2000. My youngest brother
offically went online in 2000, while my middle brother had been online
since 1987. He was a Compuserve user.
I don't have a webpage any more. But I am thinking about setting one up
under Windows, one to run 6 hours, just long enough for users to get
updates from me.
I was write music and stories, check email, web surf, and watch TV. I do
work, but I play too.
I do a lot of things when I'm not online.
Long list that I can't see how they're related to copyright or licensing.
BTW, have you ever tried to run Windoze + Cygwin and Linux
simultaenously. Works great.
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