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Individual vs. list-only replies (Was Re: Force bash to start asadministrator)

I don't wish to prolong this thread any more than necessary, so this will
be my last post on the subject.  Please note that no part of this message
is intended as an insult (just covering my bases here).

On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Andrew DeFaria wrote:

> Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
> >
> >> Please don't email me directly - keep it on the list!
> >
> > My mailer (pine) replies to the sender and Cc's to the list unless
> > there's a Reply-To. Many people aren't subscribed to the list, and
> > thus would prefer the mail sent directly to them. It is nigh
> > impossible to keep track of individual preferences, so it helps to
> > provide a Reply-To header if you want the response to go to the list.
> > I'm modifying this particular message to go to the list only, but in
> > the future, as a courtesy to people replying to your messages, please
> > set a Reply-To header to indicate your preference.
> Ah and there's the rub. I had previously set Reply-To but I use the
> gname gateway to news. And when I set Reply-To this breaks the gname
> gateway and I cannot post though it.
> IMHO, mail lists are mail lists and if you wish to follow the action
> then you participate. You state that many people aren't subscribed to
> the list. As you (and I) do not know how many people are not subscribed
> vs. how many people are subscribed it's fair to say that many people are
> subscribed to the list to and do not need additional email. So one could
> go either way - either always mail back to the list and cc the poster or
> always mail back to the list and not cc the poster. Who's to say who is
> more correct? I think, givein that mail lists are supposed to be
> participtory in nature things should be kept on the list and if people
> are interested then they will come to the list for answers and subscribe.


I would like to point out that most people on this list are busy people,
and that the most convenient way to reply is the one that takes the least
effort on their part.  The message that started this discussion used the
default behavior of pine (reply to author, cc to list - I hit reply, write
the message, and press send), whereas for this message I actually had to
explicitly remove your name from the To: line and move the cygwin list
from Cc: to To:.  I'm only doing this to prove the point now, and will
most probably not do so in the future.

> Otherwise I will simply set up a filter to ignore all email from you :-) !

This is certainly your choice.

> Again, I don't appreciate getting email that's a copy of what I'll be
> reading on the list shortly anyway.

As I mentioned before, the standard way to deal with this (on any mailing
list) is to use a Reply-To header.  Since your method for reading and
posting to this list is non-standard (namely, the gmane newsgroup) and
incompatible with Reply-To, you would need to seek alternate solutions.
Perhaps someone else using gmane to access mailing lists can be of help.
P.S. Also note that, even with your current setup, you can get a double
copy only if someone replies to a message that you posted.

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