Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - No longer associated with XFree86.org

[Jason Dufair <jase at dufair dot org>]

I'll also chime in as a lurker to say that you have kicked some major
ass for us Cygwin/XFree86 users, Harold, and I think you've been nothing
but helpful and responsive on the list.  I think your plea on the
XFree86 list was reasonable.  Good luck as you explore other options.

Harold L Hunt II <huntharo@msu.edu> writes:

> Egbert,
>
> Egbert Eich wrote:
>
>> Harold,
>> I find it sad that you had to make this decision.
>> I've just been absent for a little more than two weeks and
>> was unable to commit patches - look what came out of it.
>
> Egbert, I am sorry, I want to make it absolutely clear that my raising
> the issue with XFree86.org and subsequent decision had nothing to do
> with you.  You were actually a great help to me, I appreciate the work
> that you did with me very much.  There was a larger problem
> here... one that had nothing to do with you.
>
>> I understand that the level of frustration among contributors
>> has risen to a point that people are starting to use bad words.
>> I've tried to get support from individual core team members
>> for giving you commit rights. After I was unable to do so (maybe
>> I asked the wrong ones) I decided to no longer persue the issue.
>> None of the initiatives I've made so far have been accepted.
>
> I appreciate that Egbert.  That really gets to the heart of the
> matter: this isn't about cvs commit access, this is about the
> arbitrary, subjective, and unresponsive manner in which the project is
> being managed.
>
>> I don't understand why people cannot deal with issues on the
>> pragmatic level by looking at how one can best distribute
>> the workload so that the burdeon on each individual volunteer
>> is reduced.
>
> I really wish they could have seen that too.
>
>> The discussion always turns to who owes what to whom. This is
>> the wrong question. All or most of us are volunteers. Therefore
>> noone owes anything to anybody.
>> I get more and more the impression that David is working on
>> narrowing down the scope of XFree86. There are alternatives in sight
>> and I hope something will be in place before too long that will
>> again serve a place where
>> people interested in X can meet and work together.
>
> Yes, I am beginning to work with some other developers who have left
> XFree86.org as well.  It is so unfortunate that XFree86.org is pushing
> away developers one-by-one, only to assemble the same group
> elsewhere. That is a pointless waste of time; that sort of thing
> should not have to happen.
>
> I was a little surprised too to see that my request was interpreted as
> being owed something :)  Jeez, not only is the process of getting cvs
> commit access undefined, it is a veritable mine field; you cannot
> possibly ask in a humble enough manner for their taste.
>
> Anyhow, I want to reiterate again that I enjoy working with you Egbert
> and that I hope we continue to work together in the future.
>
> Thanks for your input,
>
> Harold

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