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Re: [crosstool-NG] Design discussion

Can we declare that this conversation is a "Rat Hole" and should be terminated?

On Apr 14, 2009, at 7:31 AM, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:

Le Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:11:03 +0200,
"Yann E. MORIN" <> a écrit :

Just my turn to rant a little bit ;-) For many, cross-compiling can't
be avoided. Running under an emulator is biased. Your ./configure
might detect some specifics of the machine it's running on (the
emulator) that might prove wrong on the real hardware, Or the other
way around, miss some specifics of the real hardware that the
emulator does not provide.

We happened to discuss Firmware Linux during the « Build Tools BOF » at
Embedded Linux Conference last week in San Francisco. For the audience,
Firmware Linux indeed looked like an interesting proof of concept, but
that proof of concept would *never* deprecate the need to normal
cross-compilers, normal cross-compiling and tools like Crosstool-NG.

Reason ? Just because Firmware Linux makes the assumption that a Qemu
version exists for each and every architecture in the world. It
basically makes Qemu a mandatory component to be able to build code
for a new architecture. Is Qemu available for NIOS ? For Microblaze ?
Not that I'm aware of.

Therefore, besides Firmware Linux's existence, tools like Crosstool-NG
will always be necessary, and well-maintained, simple, tools like
Crosstool-NG are more than welcome. Yann, I made quite an extensive
promotion of Crosstool-NG both during my talk on Buildroot and the BOF
on Build tools during last week conference.


Thomas Petazzoni, Free Electrons
Kernel, drivers and embedded Linux development,
consulting, training and support.

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