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Re: Preventing preemption of 'protected' symbols in GNU ld 2.26

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Joe Groff <> wrote:
> On Mar 29, 2016, at 8:44 AM, H.J. Lu <> wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Alan Modra <> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 03:38:01PM -0700, Cary Coutant wrote:
>>>>>>> Did you look at what the costs were in startup time and dirty pages by using
>>>>>>> copy relocations? What do you do if the size of the definition changes in a
>>>>>>> new version of the library?
>>>>>> There wouldn't be a measurable cost in dirty pages; the copied objects
>>>>>> are simply allocated in bss in the executable.
>>>>> Wouldn't references to the symbol from within the .so need to be relocated to reference the now-canonical copy in the executable?
>>>> No, references from within the .so would have always used the GOT.
>>>> Non-protected global symbols in a shared library are still
>>>> pre-emptible, so they are always indirect, and there's always a
>>>> dynamic relocation for the GOT entry. Whether the prevailing
>>>> definition winds up in the executable or the shared library, the
>>>> dynamic loader still has to bind the symbol and apply the relocation.
>>> HJ's changes to protected visibility meant compiler changes so that
>>> protected visibility in shared libraries is no longer seen as local.
>>> So yes, protected visibility symbols in shared libraries now go
>>> through the GOT.  Prior to his changes, they were optimized to a
>>> pc-relative access.  Joe is correct in pointing out that shared
>>> libraries needed a change.  Bad luck if you're using an older
>>> compiler.  Also bad luck if you want to use protected visibility to
>>> optimize your shared library.
>>> HJ also made glibc changes to ensure the semantics of protected
>>> visibility symbols remain unchanged when multiple shared libraries
>>> define the same protected visibility symbol.
>>> Apparently most people in the gcc and glibc communities saw these
>>> toolchain modifications as fiendishly clever.
>> As I said before, copy relocation and protected symbol are fundamentally
>> incompatible.  Since copy relocation is the part of x86 psABIs, I updated
>> GCC, glibc and ld to make protected symbol to work with copy relocation.
>> That is protected symbol may be external, but won't be preempted.  The
>> price I paid is that protected symbol won't be accessed via PC-relative
>> relocation within the shared object.  To access protected symbol via
>> PC-relative relocation within the shared object, we need to disable copy
>> relocation in executable, which is a psABI change.  That is why I proposed
>> to mark the object as such so that we won't get surprise at run-time.
> I think what Cary's arguing (and I honestly would expect) is that copying the protected symbol *is* for all intents and purposes a preemption. I'd expect copy relocations against protected symbols to be linker errors. I guess what's missing for gcc's intended optimization is an indication to the compiler that a symbol is protected in its home library, to suppress emitting PC-relative references to a copy relocation.

That is what I meant by "That is why I proposed to mark the object as such so
that we won't get surprise at run-time."


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