Re: expected timeliness on glibc locale fixes

[Mike Frysinger <vapier at gentoo dot org>]

On 18 Apr 2016 14:10, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> as we've been merging CLDR data in, a few claims have come up where
> the CLDR data is incorrect/out of date.  assuming CLDR is incorrect
> in these cases, how should we proceed ?  should we hot patch in the
> request, or wait for the wheels of the CLDR machinations to turn and
> then just pick up the next CLDR release ?  are there any cases where
> the values are so egregiously wrong that we feel "it must be resolved
> asap!" ?
> 
> i think it's safe to say that glibc long ago ceded the ground of
> being an up-to-date source of locales.  so if we have a slightly
> incorrect value for <1 year (from report time), is that a big deal ?
> keep in mind we have bug reports now that are many years old and are
> only now getting sorted out.
> 
> my take: push people to report defects to CLDR -- their tracker lets
> you file reports w/out creating an account, so it's even simpler than
> on our end.  it also means we are not the arbiters of messy political
> issues and we don't have to do research ourselves (which is especially
> time consuming for the vast majority of languages and territories that
> have small / non-english internet presence).
> 
> i know this sounds like i'm making it harder for minority langs to be
> represented, but by getting into CLDR, your impact is significantly
> higher than glibc.  our track record here is also not that great ...
> the bar has long been too high i think for people to get past, and i
> don't think continuing to force people to file bug reports in our
> bugzilla is the answer.  supporting other projects/outreaches which
> have real people on the ground makes real differences.
> 
> note: this thread isn't about any specific request, nor do i have an
> opinion either way about any of the claims (e.g. which is the most
> correct/appropriate translation/value).  i want to focus on overall
> and long term policies/procedures.

to help guide our decisions with some real data, i've started a page
which lists all known issues we've run into so far:
	https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/Locales/CLDR

if you know of more, please feel free to expand the list.
-mike

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