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[Bug localedata/10871] ru_RU: 'mon' array should contain bothnominative and genitive cases
- From: "ldv at altlinux dot org" <sourceware-bugzilla at sourceware dot org>
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- Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 12:20:56 +0000
- Subject: [Bug localedata/10871] ru_RU: 'mon' array should contain bothnominative and genitive cases
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Dmitry V. Levin <ldv at altlinux dot org> changed:
What |Removed |Added
Summary|Ru_RU month names are in |ru_RU: 'mon' array should
|incorrect form |contain both nominative and
| |genitive cases
--- Comment #5 from Dmitry V. Levin <ldv at altlinux dot org> 2012-11-18 12:20:56 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> (In reply to comment #3)
> > (In reply to comment #2)
> > > You'll have to provide a complete patch.
> > I could provide a patch, but there is a problem in specification. Neither "man
> > 5 locale" nor "man date" specify the case of name. It is not clear whether it
> > should be nominative, genitive or some another case.
> If it is not specified, we should follow the language's rules.
And the language rules require to use nominative or genitive or some another
case depending on context.
> If it would be
> specified it has to be specified in accordance with the language's rules. So
> let me as a "native speaker" to suggest the solution.
> Both months and weekdays should be in lower case.
> The correct form of date
> should be "28 ÑÐÐÑÐÐÑ" (the genitive).
Yes, but "ÑÐÐÑÐÐÑ, 28-Ð" is also correct.
> > The solution could be extending `mon' array. For example, it could contain 12,
> > 24, or even more elements. Element #1 is name of January in nominative case,
> > element #13 is name of January in genitive case, #25 is the name of January in
> > some 3rd case, etc. `%B' is name of month in nominative case, `%1B' is the same
> > as `%B', `%2B' is the name of months in genitive case, `%3B' is the name of
> > months in the "3rd" case, etc.
> > Alternatively, it could be multidimensional array, so in construct `%nB' n
> > selects the proper dimension.
> > Any thoughts on that?
> I think one should definitely extend the "mon" array. However the better idea
> would be to put there not the cases (nominative, genitive etc) but the contexts
> (month's name "as-is", month's name "when used in a date" etc). The array could
> be extensible.
Yes, putting "mon" array in a single case (no matter whether it would be
nominative, genitive or other case) cannot fix the issue, it would just fix
some language forms and break other language forms. To fix the issue, an
extension is necessary.
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