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Re: Incorrect days of the week in ru_UA locale
- From: Rafal Luzynski <digitalfreak at lingonborough dot com>
- To: Keld Simonsen <keld at keldix dot com>
- Cc: Mikhail Gribanov <mikhail dot gribanov at gmail dot com>, libc-alpha at sourceware dot org, bug-glibc-locales at gnu dot org
- Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2019 00:12:49 +0200 (CEST)
- Subject: Re: Incorrect days of the week in ru_UA locale
- References: <CAAw3sAQHZn++JjSYEYzkk8G3a_v5Oi2+eO1hT4rmwbGE7-eGXQ@mail.gmail.com> <1260007467.786529.1569624500330@poczta.nazwa.pl> <20190928173736.GA12877@rap.rap.dk> <1380310075.857991.1569959113276@poczta.nazwa.pl> <20191001205442.GB12438@www5.open-std.org>
1.10.2019 22:54 Keld Simonsen <keld@keldix.com> wrote:
> [...]
> I am also a native speaker of one of those languages, Danish,
A test:
$ LANG=da_DK.utf8 date
tor 3 okt 00:00:05 CEST 2019
$ LANG=ru_RU.utf8 date
Чт окт 3 00:00:23 CEST 2019
$ LANG=pl_PL.utf8 date
czw, 3 paź 2019, 00:00:31 CEST
Do I understand correctly that "tor" is correct here? If yes,
it is OK, I am not an expert at your language. :-)
I would say that Polish "czw" is not correct. Indeed, normally
we write weekday names (and month names) lowercase but as this is
the beginning of a sentence the uppercase first letter would be
better. For the same reason I think that Russian "Чт" is correct
even if CLDR says otherwise.
> and moreover I was the initial contributer of about 60 of the locales incl
> ru_RU,
> that Urich Drepper picked up for glibc. I am also the editor of ISO 14652
> and ISO 30112 that provided extensions
> beyond Posix i18n functionality, and I provide guidance for their use.
I know and therefore I respect your opinion.
> My advice is that this bad policy to have wrongly
> capitalized names here.
I think we don't have a consensus here and therefore I will not push
this commit unless someone convinces me to push it.
> [...]
> > Back about the main problem, I would like to post a patch which would
> > be the best explanation what I mean in this particular case.
>
> What would it say?
I think I posted it just while you were writing your message.
I will appreciate if you take a look. It does not say clearly whether
upper/lowercase letters are correct, just that ru_UA should be a copy
of ru_RU.
Regards,
Rafal