Re: [RFC][PATCH] Multiple locales: Use the correct date and time formats (bug 10496, 23724).

[Rafal Luzynski <digitalfreak at lingonborough dot com>]

8.12.2018 13:35 TAMUKI Shoichi <tamuki@linet.gr.jp> wrote:
> 
> Hello Rafal,
> 
> I am sorry for this delayed reply.

Same here, I am sorry for my delay, too.

> From: Rafal Luzynski <digitalfreak@lingonborough.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Multiple locales: Use the correct date and time
> formats (bug 10496, 23724).
> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 23:26:13 +0100 (CET)
> 
> > > By the way,
> > > 
> > > 	"9:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m."
> > > 
> > > in English is translated as
> > > 
> > > 	"9:00 e paradites - 5:00 e pasdites"
> > > 
> > > in Albanian.
> > > 
> > > So, should we include such a representation?
> > 
> > It is not in glibc, is it?  I think that glibc is correct regarding
> > this.
> 
> There is not such a usage in glibc, indeeed, but according to CLDR,
> it seems to be used the indicator above.
> 
> http://www.unicode.org/cldr/charts/28/verify/dates/sq.html

I am looking at this page:

http://st.unicode.org/cldr-apps/v#/sq/Gregorian/

and indeed, this does not mention PD and MD but does mention "p.d." and
"m.d.".  So I believe these shortcuts are known in Albania, this is not
anything artificially invented by glibc developers.

> Also, it seems that such expressions are commonly used.  For example:
> 
> https://www.chess.com/sq/al/tv

Thank you, this is a valuable feedback.

> On the other hand, there is PD/MD indicator as am_pm in sq_AL locale
> in glibc.  I do not know whether this is commonly used, but parhaps
> this may not be a problem.

Yes.  I believe it has been added for good reasons.  Also nobody
complained about it so I am not going to touch this.  Also I think
that PD and MD are good for clock widgets, "e paradites" and "e pasdites"
may be too long to fit in the limited screen space.

The bugs I am trying to fix are about the missing AM/PM indicator and
about wrong date format (that's spotted by myself, mixing numerical
format with words looks very suspicious), there was no complain about how
the AM/PM indicator looks.

I have few Albanian friends and I have asked them for some feedback.
They are generally OK with these changes I'm proposing here regarding
their language.  Also I hope that if I do anything wrong they will
contact me quickly.

Regards,

Rafal